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BEFORE YOU GET STARTED, UH, I WAS ASKED TO PREPARE THIS INFORMATION SO YOU CAN SEE THE REVENUES BROUGHT IN BY CONSTABLE, BY PRECINCT, THEIR EXPENSES BY, UM, PRECINCT.
THEN THE NEXT SHEET WILL SHOW YOU THE JUSTICE OF THE PIECE, UH, THEIR REVENUES AND THEIR EXPENDITURES BY PRECINCT.
THEN THE SECOND, THE THIRD SHEET IS THE COMBINED.
SO YOU CAN SEE JUST THEY WORK SO CLOSELY TOGETHER IF THE REVENUE COVERING THEIR EXPENDITURES.
UH, 2014 IS ONLY THROUGH APRIL BECAUSE WE'RE FINISHING UP MAY NOW, UH, 2013.
AND 2012 IS A COMPLETE FISCAL YEAR FOR 12 MONTHS.
I ASKED KAREN TO DO THIS SO WE COULD SEE WHAT THE TOTAL REVENUE WAS AND EXPENSES, UH, WERE FOR EACH OFFICE.
SO WE WOULD'VE GOOD INFORMATION.
AND THERE'S ONE OF OUR, UH, PRECINCT ONE, THERE WAS ONE COURT THAT WAS NOT EVEN PAYING FOR.
SO THAT NOW THAT'S I THINK CHANGE, YOU KNOW, BE HELPFUL SO WE CAN KIND OF, KIND OF SEE.
WELL, THAT'S REASON I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GOOD.
YOU KNOW, GOOD MORNING, JUDGE.
ONLY WE GOT THIS FROM JOHN, RIGHT? AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT, WHAT TALKING ABOUT HERE.
UH, THAT'S THE GOVERNMENTAL COUNTY STANDARDS BOARD LETTER.
WHAT THEY HAVE MINE? YES, I GOT IT THIS MORNING.
LEMME GO SHOOT COPIES THIS REAL QUICK.
SEE IF YOU CAN GET ME ON, PLEASE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO TURN THE THING ON.
DID YOU DO WHAT? HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU AND PAPER AND THEIR, AND THEIR ACTUAL PAPERS THEY SERVE.
DO YOU WANNA BRING THIS FORWARD? LET THE COURT COME IN.
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I DON'T THINK IT DOWN.ONLY ONE I LOOKED AT WAS TRAFFIC.
YOU KNOW, THEY TWO, THREE DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATIONS IN THE TICKETS THAT ARE CITATIONS THAT ARE WHATEVER, WHATEVER.
THE MOST, A PRETTY GOOD INDICATION, YOU KNOW, THAT LIST STUFF.
MOTOR VEHICLE SIDE, THAT'S CUT OFF 10.
WHY? HELLO? HOW ARE YOU? EVERYTHING GOING GOOD WITH THIS? I STILL LIKE, YEAH, I DID THE VIDEO, UH, LAST MONTH.
LET ME CONFESS THIS MORNING'S.
GO AHEAD AND CALL THE COURT'S ORDER AT EIGHT 40.
WHAT HAVE I DONE? UH, LET ME CONFESS THAT MR. AFTERNOON, JUDGE TRO DID SHOW UP AND LOOK AT HER BUDGET AND I'M SURE MY FAULT, I DON'T GO INTO ANY DETAILS.
BUT IF SHE DID COME OVER WITH A BUDGET, UH, A PRESENTATION, IF YOU WANNA GO BACK TO, AND IF YOU'LL LOOK, THE ONLY ITEM SHE CHANGED IS THAT EXTRA, NOT EXTRA HELP, I'M SORRY, BUT THE TRAINING EDUCATION CONFERENCES, UH, BECAUSE WE'VE NUMBER OF SABLES, BUT SHE'D LIKE TO ADD TO, THAT'S NOW THOUSAND DOLLARS AND SHE'D LIKE TO ADD HUNDRED TO THAT.
AND WHICH TRAINING? YEAH, THE TRAINING IS LINE 4 50, 43 0 5 52.
TO MAKE IT A TOTAL OF, UH, 12.
SO I GOT HER NEW BUDGET, LET HER SLEEP OVER THE WEEKEND BECAUSE ON FIVE 20 SHE DIDN'T WANT, WELL TAKE THE JUDGE AND GOING UP SMITH.
IT ARE MANDATORY SCHOOLS ARE GOING UP.
ANYWAY, UH, ANYTHING ELSE? NO, THAT'S IT.
SO THIS MORNING, FROM THAT DAY, I DID GET HER SWEAR RING ON THERE.
SO, UH, JUDGE SMITH'S TRAINING WILL GO UP ANOTHER 200 BUCKS TOO.
WELL, I DON'T WHAT HE INCLUDED THAT HIS, UH, I DIDN'T, WE'RE WE'RE STACK.
I THINK I'M GOOD ON THAT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THE, THE LADIES ARE STAGGERED IN ON THE YEARS THEY GO TO SCHOOL.
UM, SO THIS YEAR I DIDN'T USE EVERYTHING.
AND MY, MY BUDGET, MY, MY TRAINING BUDGET MIGHT HAVE BEEN A LITTLE LARGER THAN HER IN THE BEGIN WITH.
I'M NOT SURE, BUT I'M GOOD ON THAT.
WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU GOT A THOUSAND DOLLARS BUDGETED AND, UH, HE SPENT 400 SO FAR.
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THIS THING IS A LITTLE BLURRY HERE.I CAN'T, I CAN'T TELL, I CAN'T TELL IF IT'S, IF THE NEW BUDGET SAYS 3000 OR IS THAT 1000? WELL, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE ONE OH OH.
ALMOST LOOKS LIKE A THREE ON NINE ALSO FOR CORRECTION.
AND YOU CAN MAKE IT ON YOUR TRAINING ON THAT FOUR.
IF Y'ALL HAVING A HARD TIME READING PAPERS.
UH, FOR THE, THAT MAKES IT EASY.
THE MILEAGE MILLS ON LOT AND HE HAS 2100.
HE HAD REQUEST AN INCREASE FOR TRAINING.
AND JUDGE, UH, YOU HIGHLIGHT NO, NO CHANGES THERE.
BUT YOU DID WANT TO DISCUSS THE 6,000 IN PARTTIME HELP FOR INCREASE IN FOR EMPLOYEE THIS LAST YEAR COURT.
I WAS TOLD TO PUT IT IN FOR BUDGET TIME.
SO JUST SO YOU'LL KNOW, UH, WE, WE WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING OVERALL SALARY RIGHT NOW.
IT IS, UH, MY INTENT AND I HOPE THE COURT INTENDS THAT WE ARE ABLE TO DO SOME SORT OF A GENERAL SALARY INCREASE THIS YEAR FOR ALL OUR EMPLOYEES.
BUT, UH, AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU, IF YOU PROMOTE SOMEBODY OR IF YOU INCREASE THEIR SCOPE OF DUTIES, I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING.
I THINK WHEN MY YEARS ARE GETTING MESSED, MESSED UP, WHEN SHE WAS PROMOTED, ME, ME AND ADAMS, JUDGE ADAMS HAVE HAD MOVED.
HE CHANGED LEON THE TOP, BUT WE NEVER COULD GET RIGHT.
WITH THE WHOLE COUNTY AS FAR AS WHAT THE, WHAT THE SALARY WAS FOR AN ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT.
UH, SO HER SALARY ACTUALLY STAYED THE SAME.
OR I HAD SOMEBODY LEAVE AND WE GAVE HER A COUPLE THOUSAND DOLLARS.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE WERE WORKING ON LAST YEAR AFTER EVEN AFTER THE BUDGET TIME, THE PAY SCALE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SHE JUST HADN'T BEEN COMPENSATED FOR.
AND THEN I REMEMBER COMING LAST YEAR TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T WANT TO STIR THE WHOLE COUNTY UP ON THAT.
SO WE WERE GONNA COME BACK AT BUDGET TIME THIS YEAR AND SEE IF WE COULDN'T FIT IT IN.
SO SHE HAS NOT BEEN COMPENSATED, BUT SHE'S MOVED UP IN TITLE.
BUT I NEED TO ASK FOR THAT MONEY AT BUDGET TIME STILL AT A, AT A, AT A COMMISSIONER COURT HEARING.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU HAD HAD EXTRA HELP IN YOUR BUDGET UNTIL LAST YEAR.
RIGHT? I, I DIDN'T AND THEN I DIDN'T SPEND IT EITHER AND THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T SPEND IT.
I DON'T WANT TO COST THE COUNTY ANYMORE MONEY.
WE'RE GOOD AS LONG AS I, BUT THAT, THAT'S JUST ONE THING I'VE BEEN BEEN TRYING TO GET.
BUT DIDN'T YOU LOSE AN EMPLOYEE BACK SEVERAL YEARS AGO? YEAH, ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO.
YOU PUT EXTRA LOAD ON ALL THE GIRLS AND I KNOW I COME OVER TO THE LADIES FOR VERY BUSY, SO YOU WOULD BE FINE IF WE TOOK THE EXTRA HELP OUT AS LONG AS YOU WERE ABLE TO, UH, I'D LIKE FOR THE EXTRA HELP, THE 6,000 TO BE MOVED TO THE SALARY AND THEN I COULD DELETE THAT EXTRA HELP LINE AND THEN THAT WOULD GO FOR HER, UH, HER TITLE CHANGE AND HER PROMOTION.
YOU PUT THE ENTIRE 6,000 TO EMILY BRANCH WITH THAT ONE, WITH THAT 6,000.
IN OTHER WORDS, THAT'D BE, THAT WOULD BE ADDED ON TO HER SALARY DIRECT AND THE WITHHOLDING SOCIAL SECURITY AND ALL THAT.
NO, I JUST GOT A QUESTION AT ONE TIME WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS WEED BACK, THE, THE 6,000, WHEN YOU HAVE EXTRA HELP IN THERE NOW, IS THAT INCLUDED WITH THE WITHHOLDING AND EVERYTHING? IS THAT ALREADY BEEN BUDGETED FOR OR WAS THAT THE 6,000? YES, IT'S BEEN BUDGETED FOR, UM, SOCIAL SECURITY AND RETIREMENT.
AND IT LOOK LIKE YOU WANNA BRING, WOULD IT BE RETIREMENT? AREN'T THEY PARTTIME OR SOME OF PARTTIME IF YOU, IF THEY ARE CONTINUOUS TO WORK SO MANY DAYS THEY ARE INCLUDED IN OUR RETURN.
IT'S A, IT IS A LAW THAT TCRS CAME DOWN ON.
SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO INCLUDE
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RETIREMENT IN THOSE DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE WORK TIME.IT'S OVER 32 HOURS A WEEK, ISN'T IT? I THINK SO.
COMMISSIONER, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.
SO IF WE CAN SEE IT IN OUR SCOPE OF THINGS WHEN WE SIT DOWN AND HASH ALL THIS OUT, IS THIS WANT WE NOT WHAT YOU GOT TWO, WHICH EMPLOYEE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? THE 33,000 EMPLOYEE OR THE 30,000 EMPLOYEE? PROBABLY THE 30.
SEE THE 30,000 EMPLOYEE'S GOT THE SAME DUTIES AS THE SAME EMPLOYEE IN PRECINCT FOREST.
SAME EMPLOYEE MAKES $6,000 MORE.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE, SO IT'S, IT'S LOOKED LIKE THE EMPLOYEE PRECINCT ONE MAKES 4,000 OR MORE EMPLOYEE IN PRECINCT TWO MAKES ABOUT WHAT? $1,800? 1200 MORE MAYBE.
OF COURSE, ONE DIFFERENCE IF YOU LOOK OVER IN THE OTHER COLUMN, UH, IN WAS EMPLOYED AUGUST 23RD, 2010.
AND THEN THE OTHER, THE, UH, I GUESS MS. BOUNDS, IS THAT THE ONE LEONA? YEAH, I'M LOOKING, I'M LOOKING AT JUST BASE SALARY.
BUT I MEAN SHE HIRED SEVEN YEARS EARLIER, SO SHE, WITH THE COUNTY EXPERIENCE 30.
AND I'M NOT OPPOSING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I MEAN, WE DO NEED TO REALIZE THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I BET I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH RAISED WAS GIVEN DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME.
YOU KNOW, 2003 SOME, BUT THE DUTIES ARE SIMILAR IS WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
AND THEN IF WE DID THAT, IT WOULD JUST TAKE THE UH, EXTRA HELP OUT OUT.
IF WE, IF WE ADD THE 6,000 INTO HER SALARY AND THEN WE FIND THE MONEY COME UP WITH A RAISE FOR COUNTY, IS SHE GONNA BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE RAISE ALSO? I WOULD THINK SO BECAUSE SHE'S BEING GIVEN THE 6,000 FOR INCREASED DUTIES.
AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT IT WOULD BE WHATEVER WE DECIDE WE CAN GIVE COUNTY BY.
I MEAN THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS, BUT EXACTLY.
BUT I THINK IT'S ONLY FAIR IS THERE, CAN YOU GET BY WITH LESS THAN SIX? SO IT'D BE A LITTLE MORE EASIER TO SMOOTH OVER SOME OTHER PEOPLE, BUT IT'D BE
WELL, IF SHE'S DOING THE SAME THING AS LEONA IS, YOU KNOW, SHE'S THE CHIEF CHIEF.
IF YOU'RE GONNA ASK CHIEF CLARK OR CHIEF DEPUTY CLERK, WE CALL HIM CHIEF DEPUTY CLARK.
CLARK OR CHIEF SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, SHE'S, SHE'S NOT DID THE TITLE AS ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT TWO YEARS AGO.
I'M GONNA TELL YOU THAT YOU, YOU'LL HEAR THE SAME THING FROM OH SURE.
PROBABLY NEED TO LOOK AT THAT WHEN WE PICTURE.
BUT HE'S GOT 6,000 HERE EXTRA HELP RIGHT NOW THAT WE CAN USE THAT.
HE'S GOING
DO THEY HAVE EXTRA HELP IN THE OTHER ONES? YEAH.
IF YOU BUMP THE WHOLE SIX, SHE'S GONNA MAKE MORE THAN THEM ON BASE.
SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO, WELL MAYBE WE SHOULD GET 'EM ALL AT THE SAME AMOUNT OR SOMETHING EQUAL TO WHAT BE IS.
THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE SOMEWHAT CONSISTENT.
WHAT'S UH, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN THAT THAN THE 6,000 COUPLE HUNDRED DOLLARS? UH, YEAH, COUPLE HUNDRED DOLLARS.
SO WE WOULD ELIMINATE THE EXTRA.
AND I THINK THE OTHER HUNDRED 36 PRECINCT TWO, YEAH, SHE'S GOT 55, 7500, WHICH I DUNNO WHO THE PERSON IS.
WHO'S THE PERSON OVER LISA? 85.
THAT MIGHT HELP STOP THE, THEY'LL BE TAKE BUDGET REGINA PRECINCT ONE, BE THE LOW.
IT'S HARD TO GET WITHOUT US COMING IN HERE AND DOING COMPLETE SALARY STUDY ACROSS THE, IT'S ALWAYS
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YEAH.BUT THIS SEEMS TO WORK, ESPECIALLY, UH, WHEN THEY ARE THE CHIEF OR WHATEVER, WHATEVER YOU CALL, I DO THINK THEY BE CONSISTENT, ESPECIALLY THEY GOT THE MONEY, SHE WOULD JUST MAKE ALL FOUR CHEAP IN, IN ALL FOUR OF JPS EQUAL PAY.
SO THAT THERE'S, I WOULD THINK SO WE HAVE THIS THING PUT UNDER THE TABLE.
WELL IF THEY'RE CALLED ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A DIFFERENT, THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT BALL GAME BECAUSE IN OTHER WORDS, KATHY'S TITLE IN MY OFFICE THERE IS ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT, SHE 35, UH, 35 6.
SO IF YOU SAY, WELL, ALL ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT ARE GONNA MAKE 36 4, FIRST THING YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE SPEND A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS EQUALING THAT.
BUT YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT IN YOUR BUDGET IF YOU CHOSE TO DO THAT.
I MEAN, I DIDN'T ANY, IT WAS DONE.
BUT YOU CAN, THE SYSTEMS FOR US ALL MAKE THE SAME.
YOU EVER BUMP ONE? THAT'S ONE THING WE'RE DOING IS GETTING THINGS CONSISTENT.
TO, AND I THINK THIS IS GONNA MAKE A LOT OF DIFFERENCE IN OUR BUDGET.
IT'S GOING TO HELP HOLD DOWN THE BUDGET.
UH, WON'T BE AS MUCH RIGHTING BETWEEN THE EMPLOYEES.
'CAUSE THEY'RE ALWAYS FIND OUT WHO GETS WHAT.
AND, AND THAT PROBABLY WILL CONTINUE.
BUT STILL, IF WE GOT A LITTLE BETTER HANDLE, I THINK IT'LL DON'T ISSUES.
IT'LL START KEEPING OUR EMPLOYEE MORALE UP.
I DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO, AND NOBODY HAS.
NONE OF THOSE FOUR HAVE A DRIVE BECAUSE THEY'RE EQUAL BILLION EQUAL.
SO WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO? I WOULD PLUG THE, UH, SAME AMOUNT IN FOR, UH, WHICHEVER PERSON IS DESIGNATED AS THE, WHAT WE CALL MIKE, THE ADMINISTRATIVE, DEMONSTRATING THE SYSTEM.
SAME THING WE DO AT ALL OF ADMINISTRATIVE SYSTEM.
UH, WHAT? UH, LEON, LEON AND S DOWN IN PRECINCT FOUR ON BASE.
SO WHAT'D THAT COME TO? WHAT'D YOU SEE? THAT WAS 36? 4 9 4 40, 36, 4 9.
THAT LISA WILL BE DON'T BECOME EFFECTIVE UNTIL OCTOBER.
AND PROBABLY AS PART OF THAT DISCUSSION, UH, DO WE GO AHEAD AND ELIMINATE THE EXTRA HELP, UH, FOR ALL OF THE, UH, JPS, RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO THAT.
JUDGE ADAMS HAS GOT, HE'S GOT A LOAD OF STUFF.
I THINK I'VE NOTICED THAT HE'S REQUESTING, UH, SOME MORE MONEY FOR, UH, JUST THE PIECE TOO.
ALSO HAS SOMEBODY THAT'S REQUIRED, CAME BACK AND WORK FOR WE NEED TO CHECK JUDGE BEFORE I ELIMINATE.
UH, MIKE, DID YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK OVER THIS JUST THIS MORNING? OVER THIS MORNING AND, UH, IT'S HOT OFF PRESS, SO TO SPEAK.
UH, OF COURSE YOUR REPORT HAS ALWAYS BEEN VERY, VERY ACTIVE.
AND, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE COMBINED REVENUES ON THE LAST PAGE, UH, THERE, YOUR COURT AND THE, UH, JP COURT WAS AT SIX 18 IN 2012, WHICH WAS, UH, 618,000.
UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE NEXT, ONTO THE RIGHT THERE, YOUR EXPENSES THAT YEAR WERE THREE 16.
UH, IF YOU LOOK AT, UH, FUNDING YEAR 2013, UH, YOUR REVENUE DID GO DOWN.
BUT NOW REMEMBER THAT 2012, THAT WAS WHERE WE REALLY PUT THE BUSH, YOU KNOW, TO HELP GET US OUT OF THE, OUT OF THE RED.
SO THAT'S ONE REASON WE WENT DOWN.
UH, BUT YOU STILL WERE THE LARGEST REVENUE PRODUCER
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AND, UH, YOUR EXPENSES, UH, BETWEEN THE JP AND THE CONSTABLE WERE, UH, 360 3 AND THEN IN 2014, WHICH IS THIS YEAR, AND KAREN, THAT'S THROUGH APRIL.WE AT 2 79 ON, UH, REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES.
AND THAT'S COMBINED JP AND CONSTABLE.
SO IF YOU WOULD BE SURE TO SHARE.
DO WE COME UP WITH THE, UH, REVENUE FOR
SO WE JUST TOOK THAT THE YEAR, INVITED BY THE FOUR.
THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE COULD DO IT.
I, I DIDN'T THINK THERE WAS ANY WAY YOU COULD TRACK WHAT CONSTABLE'S INCOME WOULD BE.
THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE COULD DO IT.
WE EVEN DID JOIN THE FOUR, BUT IF IT SPECIFICALLY SAID PRECINCT ON OUR FOURTH, IT WAS COMBINED IN THAT LINEUP.
SO THOSE NUMBERS ARE NOT ACTIVE.
THE AVERAGE, SOME OF THE NUMBER IS, UH, COMMISSIONER, BECAUSE IF THEY DO SOMETHING SEPARATELY FROM THE COURTS, THEY, THEY GET THE MONEY.
IT'S RECEDED AT THE COUNTY TREASURER AS TO WHAT PRECINCT DID BRING IT IN.
IF IT GOES THROUGH THE COUNTY CLERK OR THE DISTRICT CLERK, IT'S NOT NOTED WHICH CONSTABLE.
SO WE TOOK THE FULL AMOUNT AND DIVIDED IT BY FOUR.
ANOTHER WAY YOU COULD DO IT, I GUESS, IS TO TAKE THE, UH, REVENUE THAT IS, UH, OR THE EXPENSES.
MAYBE THERE'S PROBABLY NOT A FAIR WAY TO DO IT OTHER THAN JUST, UNLESS WE CAN START RECEIVING IT DIFFERENTLY.
I, WHETHER WE CAN OR NOT, I'M SURE WE CAN DO ANYTHING YOU WANT.
JUST GIVE US SOME LINE ITEMS AND WE BREAK IT DOWN.
THAT PROBABLY WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR NEXT YEAR IF WE BREAK IT DOWN BY 3 CENTS ON THE, IT'S PRETTY EASY TO DO ON EXPENDITURES, BUT THE REVENUE, SO MAYBE WE COULD PUT THAT INTO PLACE FOR NEXT YEAR.
AND OF COURSE ONE THAT REALLY STICKS OUT HERE IS PRECINCT ONE, UH, WHERE WE HAD, UH, REVENUE AND CONSTABLE, WE HAD EXPENDITURES.
AND THEN ON OF COURSE WE LOOKED AT, UH, WELL, I'LL TALKED ABOUT THIS YEAR.
YOU LOOK AT LAST YEAR WE HAD, UH, EXPENDITURES YEAR 2013.
LAST YEAR WE SPENT IN PRECINCT THREE 13,000 AS COMPARED TO 202,000 PRECINCT TWO WE SPENT TWO 12.
WE JUST TALKED ABOUT PRECINCT THREE AND CONSTABLE AND UNDERSTAND THE CAVEAT, IS THIS THE WAY THE REVENUES WILL RECEIVED? IT'S NOT THE JP REVENUES WOULD BE YEAH.
AND YOU DO HAVE A BREAKOUT OF THAT ON THE FIRST PAGE.
CONSTABLE REVENUE QUESTION AFTER JP REPORTS YOU DOWN TICKET WRITTEN, BUT IT'S NOT WRITE THE TICKETS.
BUT IT'S NOT JUST TICKETS, IT'S WHERE THEY SERVE PAPERS.
I YOU'D GO BACK CONSTRUCT THAT.
THAT'S HARD TO BREAK DOWN TOO.
YOU COME IN AND YOU FILE AN EVICTION ON SOMEBODY, YOU'RE A LANDLORD AND YOU'RE PAYING THAT COURT CALL OR SERVICE.
THERE'S A SERVICE FEE IN THERE FOR THAT SERVICE FEE BUILT IN IN THAT ONE 30.
YEAH, BUT IT ALL CODES OUT SEPARATE.
I MEAN, SO IF YOU HAD A BREAKDOWN, YOU COULD, YOU COULD CERTAINLY BREAK DOWN LIKE ALL THE CONSTABLES SERVICE FEES AND UM, NOW THE TICKETS THAT WOULD BE HARD TO, TICKETS ARE HARD.
DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT OR SOMEBODY TO GO IN AND
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SEPARATE WHAT WAS CONSTABLE TICKETS DPS? THEY DO THAT.BUT IT DOESN'T SAY HAVE JUST THE NUMBER OF HOW THE TICKETS WERE WRITTEN AMOUNT TICKETS.
BUT COLLECTION IT THIS MONTH, YOU'LL COLLECT IT SIX MONTHS FROM NOW.
WELL, AND, AND AGAIN, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THIS IS AS ACCURATE AS POSSIBLE, BUT IT'S, IT'S AT LEAST THE BEGINNING.
IF WE CAN REFINE THIS AND MAKE IT, UH, MORE ACCURATE, I THINK WE SHOULD TRY TO DO THAT.
I JUST DUNNO WHETHER WE HAVE ABILITY TO GO BACK AND RECONSTRUCT IT THESE YEARS.
I THINK WE WORK WITH THE, BUT HAVE THAT DONE AND I'M SURE IT COULD PERHAPS MAYBE GET WITH THE JPS WORK THAT, UH, JOHNNY, I'M, YOU GOT A COPY OF UH, THIS? I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY.
WE JUST, WE JUST GOT, ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR JUDGE, UH, SMITH? ARE WE PRETTY CLEAR? KAREN, DO YOU THINK YOU GUYS GOT IT DOWN TO YES, SIR.
I WROTE, DO ANYBODY GOT ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, SIR.
OKAY, JUDGE ADAM, YOU NEED NOTHING.
YOU WANT TO COME UP AND I KNOW YOU'RE JUST PERUSING THROUGH THAT, UH, INFORMATION AND THERE'S THREE, UH, THREE PAGES AND HERE'S ONE OF YOU.
WHAT, WHAT WE DID JUST HAVE A SEAT THERE.
WHAT WE DID, UH, I ASKED KAREN TO, TO GO THROUGH AND LOOK AT THE REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES ON EACH OF THE CONSTABLE BY PRECINCT AND ALSO THE JP.
SO THE FIRST PAGE IS THE REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES BY CONSTABLE.
AND THE PROBLEM WE HAVE WITH THAT IS THAT'S HARD TO, UH, DELINEATE BECAUSE SOME OF THE REVENUES WERE NOT EXACTLY, I MEAN, THEY WEREN'T RETARDED, UH, BY PRECINCT.
UH, BUT, UH, ANYWAY, YOU SEE WHERE A PRECINCT BEFORE THE CONSTABLE, BASED ON THE, UH, THE, UH, PROJECTION BY THE, UH, HAD SHOWS A CREDIT ON 14, AND THAT'S THROUGH APRIL THE 30TH ON THIS TOP, TOP THING OF 20,000 9 62.
AND THEN IF YOU LOOK ACROSS THE PAGE THERE, THE EXPEND ARE 87.
AND THE SECOND PAGE IS JUST YOUR OFFICE.
JUST, I SAY YOUR OFFICE ALWAYS OFFICES, AND YOU SHOW UP A, UH, CREDIT THIS YEAR THROUGH APRIL 1 77, 8 80, WHICH IS 29% OF THE REVENUE THROUGH APRIL 30TH.
IF YOU TALK DOWN BELOW THERE, JUST FOR COMPARISON, IF YOU LOOK AT LAST YEAR YOU RAISED, UH, 327,000, WHICH VOLUME, 30% OF THE TOTAL OF REVENUE AND YOUR EXPENSES WERE AT 206,000.
THESE CAME OFF OFF THE AUDIT REPORT AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE THE JPS REVENUE IS TRACKED.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY WELL, IT'S EASIER TO DEFINE CONS.
THEN THE LAST PAGE, UH, WE, WE JUST
IF YOU LOOK AT THE CONSTABLE AND JB FOUR, UH, THROUGH THIS YEAR, THE REVENUE CONSTABLE AND JP AND BOTH D'S OFFICES 198,000 AND EXPENSES THROUGH APRIL 30TH, 199,000.
AND IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT FUNDING YEAR 2013, WHICH WAS LAST YEAR BUDGET, WE SHOW REVENUES OF 360 2 AND EXPENDITURES OF 3 51.
AND THEN THE YEAR BEFORE ON 2012, THAT WAS THE YEAR WE HAD THE BIG BUSH, YOU KNOW.
IT SHOWED 4 42 AND EXPENSES OF 3 48.
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IS NOT TOTALLY ACCURATE BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE CONSTABLE'S REVENUE IS REQUIRED.AND UH, IT'S PRETTY CLOSE THOUGH, JUDGE.
WELL, KAREN EXPLAINED TO THE JUDGE HOW YOU DID THE REVENUE ON THE, UH, CONSTABLE, WE WERE ABLE TO PULL IT IF IT SAID CONSTABLE PRECINCT, 1, 2, 3.
THE ISSUE COMES WITH THE WAY, UM, THE COUNTY CLERK AND THE DISTRICT CLERK RECORD THEIRS.
IT'S ALL ALWAYS BEEN LUMPED INTO ONE BIG LINE ITEM.
SO WHAT WE DID WAS TAKE THAT NUMBER AND DIVIDE IT BY FOUR EVENLY.
WE DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS 1, 4, 3 OR TWO.
AND MS. LAURA JUST TOLD US IF, UM, I GIVE HER SOME NEW LINE ITEMS OCTOBER, SHE CAN GET THAT STORY FOR US SHOWING YOU EXACTLY WHAT EACH ITEM IT'S ALREADY DONE FOR THE JP BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S JUST LAURA.
I, I'M ASSUMING FOR RHONDA CAN BE DONE THAT WAY TOO.
AND WE DON'T REPORT THAT MANY CONSTABLE SERVICES.
THERE'S MORE SERVICES COMING OUT OF, LIKE THEY SAID, THEIR COST, OUR SHOW SPECIFIC CONSTABLE THINGS THAT, THAT GETS RECORDED IN CONS FEES.
SO I WONDER IF THERE'S GONNA BE A WAY TO, UH, TRACK THAT.
IT, IT WAS CONSTABLE FEES RUN OR KAREN, I'M SURE YOU CAN, YOU COULD PULL UP, YOU KNOW, COUNTY AND CLERK CONSTABLE, BUT I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GONNA FIND THAT MUCH MONEY COMING RECORDED FROM OUR OFFICE.
THE AMOUNT THAT I HAD TO DIVIDE BY FOUR TO GET THESE TOTALS WAS A MINUTE AMOUNT.
THE OTHER IS THE ACTUAL REVENUE BY PRECINCT OR THE CONS.
YEAH, I THINK THAT THE RUNNING REPORT UNDER CONSTABLE FEES, WE REPORT VERY, VERY, VERY LITTLE.
THAT'S KIND OF UNDERSTANDABLE.
ANYWAY, UH, WE DIDN'T HAVE THIS REPORT YESTERDAY WHEN WE MET WITH, WE MET WITH BRIAN YET.
SO WE HAVEN'T SHARED THIS WITH EVERYBODY.
KAREN, I ASKED HER PUT IT TOGETHER JUST SO WE CAN KIND SEE AND WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS NOT CREATE A JUST INFORMATION BASICALLY WHERE WE'RE, SO WE ARE AT PRECINCT FLOOR AS FAR AS THE J IS CONCERNED.
AND, UH, JUDGE, WE HAVE A COPY OF WHAT YOU, UH, SUBMITTED AND UH, I THINK I'LL JUST LET YOU GO THROUGH.
UH, WE'VE KIND OF BEEN LEANING EVER SINCE.
YOU KNOW, WE WERE IN THE RED FOR SO MANY YEARS, JUDGE, AND WE'VE REALLY, UH, DONE OUR PART IN PRECINCT FOUR AS FAR AS REDUCING AND DOING AWAY WITH SOME ITEMS WE DIDN'T NEED ANYMORE.
SO WE KIND OF WENT UP THIS YEAR AND I THINK THERE'S A LETTER IN THERE FROM, UH, TEXAS, UH, JUSTICE COURT TRAINING CENTER.
EVERYTHING'S GOING UP NATURALLY.
SO WE JUST KIND OF REFLECTED THAT ON OUR BUDGET AS FAR AS DUES AND SCHOOLS AND TRAINING, EDUCATION AND, UM, THINGS LIKE THAT.
IT'S, UM, NOW HOW MUCH THAT FROM THE LAST YEAR IT WAS LIKE THOUSAND SOMETHING, 1200 THIS YEAR BECAUSE IT'S ALSO A LEGISLATIVE AND YEAH, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF, YOU KNOW, BARE BONES.
UH, AND AGAIN, UH, IT'S, IT'S THERE IF WE NEED IT.
BUT BASICALLY ON THE OFFICE SUPPLY YOU'RE ASKING OR $200 INCREASE AND ON, UH, MILEAGE MILLING, UH, HUNDRED INCREASE AND THE TRAINING AND EDUCATIONAL HUNDRED INCREASE JUST FOR THINGS THAT COME UP FROM 65 TO THREE.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THAT? I APPRECIATE ALL THE DOCUMENTATION, BUT, UH, YOU, YOU, I WOULDN'T WANT TO BE SITTING WHERE YOU ARE.
NONE OF Y'ALL, Y'ALL, I'D LIKE TO BE SITTING WHERE YOU'RE, UH, WELL, IT'S A LOT.
I'LL TELL YOU, UH, DIFFERENT THIS YEAR WE'RE IN A LITTLE BETTER SHAPE THAN WE WERE THREE YEARS AGO, BUT IT'S, IT'S NEVER, YOU'VE ALWAYS GOT MORE NEEDS THAN YOU HAVE MONEY.
GO THROUGH AND DO THE BEST WE CAN.
UH, I WAS TALKING TO KAREN ABOUT, UM, UH,
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SALARIES.YOU KNOW, WE DON'T PUT IT IN THIS BUDGET, SO I WAS JUST GONNA, AND SHE WAS TELLING ME THAT Y'ALL HAVE TALKED TO JUDGE SMITH ABOUT SOMETHING.
UH, CHIEF CLARK, WHAT WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO IS MAKE ACROSS THE COUNTY, MAKE THE FOUR CHIEF CLERKS IN THE JP OFFICES MAKE THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY.
SINCE THEY ASSUME, UH, WE ASSUME THEY DO.
UH, AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA TRY TO DO IS THIS BUDGET YEAR.
AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT WE WILL, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE SOME SORT OF A COUNTYWIDE PAY INCREASE.
WE'RE NOT SURE EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE ON THAT YET.
UH, WE'RE GONNA WAIT A LITTLE LONGER, GET A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION FROM THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT AND ANY OTHER SOURCES OF REVENUE YOU MIGHT HAVE.
BUT THAT WILL COME ALONG AT A, AT A LATER TIME.
WE DO KNOW THAT WE GOT A GOOD REPORT BECAUSE OF THE INVESTMENT EARNINGS ON OUR COUNTY AND DISTRICT RETIREMENT SYSTEM, UH, UH, REPORT.
WE KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT GOING TO INCREASE, UH, WHICH IN THE LAST TWO OR THREE YEARS, OUR PAYMENTS THAT WE WERE HAVING TO PROVIDE GOING UP THREE 4,000.
AND SO THAT'S THE, THE PART THAT THE COUNTY HAD TO USE TO GO THROUGH THAT.
SO, UH, THAT, UH, THAT'S GOOD NEWS.
WHAT WE DON'T KNOW GET IS WORKERS' COMP, WE DUNNO, UH, HEALTH INSURANCE AND ALL THAT KIND OF THINGS.
AND SO THOSE ARE ALWAYS BIG, BIG TICKET ITEMS. I UNDERSTAND OUR WORKERS' COMP CLAIMS THAT REALLY DIED OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS AND, UH, AND THE AMOUNT OF CLAIMS THAT WE HAD OUT THERE.
AND SO, UH, AT ONE TIME WE WERE BUDGETING, UH, NEARLY HALF MILLION DOLLARS TO PAY WORKERS' COMP CLAIMS AND THAT HAS DROPPED AROUND OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE EVERYBODY GOT TOGETHER.
WE'RE DOING ALL TRAINING AND SAFETY TRAINING AND THINGS LIKE THAT SO THAT THOSE ARE BIG NUMBERS OF HELL.
THE OTHER THING, I STILL HAVEN'T HAVE TIME TO GET THIS TOGETHER, BUT BECAUSE OF ALL THE ENERGY SAVINGS THINGS WE'VE DONE, UH, JACK NEGOTIATED A NEW BID WITH OUR, UH, OUR NEW PRICE WITH OUR POWER PROVIDER.
LOOKS LIKE OUR ELECTRICITY LOOKED LIKE THAT'S GONNA PUT OUT ABOUT A YEAR.
AND THAT'S MONEY, POWER S WE'RE SAVING IT AND USING FOR THE PURPOSES.
SO ALL THOSE THINGS ARE JUST NOW KIND OF COMING INTO PLAY.
Y'ALL ON TRACK? WE'RE TRYING TO, WHERE'S A NEWSPAPER? WELL, THEY ONLY BAD CELLS.
SO DO YOU HAVE ANYBODY GOT ANY QUESTIONS YOU WONDER ABOUT THAT? NOBODY'S READING NEWSPAPER ANYMORE.
THEY READ THE INTERNET, PUT IT ON FACEBOOK.
AND WE PROBABLY NEED TO, WELL WE'VE GOTTA GO TO POO COURT, UH, THIS MORNING.
SO WE'RE HEADED OVER TO THE, IS THAT WHAT YOU CALL THE, THE SANITATION SANITATION SANITATION BEFORE? WELL, THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY CALLS IT.
ALRIGHT, NEXT ONE IS THE AUDITOR.
SO, UH, KAREN, YOUR, UH, BUDGET SHOWS NO, UH, NO ADDITIONAL REQUEST IS WHAT WE BUDGETED FOR LAST YEAR.
WHEN THE ADMINISTRATIVE JUDGE SET YOUR, YOUR BUT SET YOUR BUDGET OR JUST YOUR SALARIES? UH, SALARY.
THE SALARIES WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE SALARIES.
SO THE ONLY REASON WE ONLY THING WE'RE RESPONSIBLE IS JUST YOUR OPERATING EVERYTHING BESIDES THAT OFFICE SUPPLIES AND TRAINING, STUFF LIKE THAT.
IN FACT, I LOOKED, I I HAVEN'T PULLED THE, UH, UH, THERE WAS AN ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OPINION THAT JUST CAME OUT.
I SAW IT ON URBAN THAT Y'ALL GET THAT URBAN NEWS URBAN MAIL OUT.
THERE WAS A, THERE WAS A GREG ABT OPINION THAT JUST WAS ISSUED IN THE LAST FEW DAYS THAT CLARIFIED THAT EVEN FORCE SO THAT THE DISTRICT JUDGE OR JUDGES
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SET THE SALARIES FOR THE, UH, AUDITOR AND UH, ASSISTANT AUDITOR.AND THAT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT ABSOLUTELY HAS NO AUTHORITY OVER THAT.
AND I HAVEN'T READ THE ENTIRE OPINION, BUT THAT WAS THE SYNOPSIS OF IT.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS OF WHAT WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF THE EMPLOYEES IN HER OFFICE? THEY'RE ALL CONSIDERED ASSISTANT AUDITORS.
AND I MEANT, I'LL TRY TO MAKE A COPY OF THAT.
BUT Y'ALL, I THINK, YEAH, I THINK I'VE GOT, I'VE GOT, YEAH, YESTERDAY EMAIL THAT I GOT FROM URBAN COUNTY.
KAREN, LET ME, LEMME ASK YOU THIS.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT UH, THAT UH, LAURIE HAS TALKED ABOUT IN HER BUDGET IS THE, UH, THE ADVANTAGES OF MOVING ALL OF THE, UH, RISK, UH, INSURANCE TO HER OFFICE IN HR.
IT WOULD TAKE ALL THAT UMBRELLA.
I KNOW THE AUDITOR OFFICE HAS TRADITIONALLY DONE THAT IN OUR, UH, BUT LORI AND I THINK SHE'S BASIC ON CONVERSATION.
SHE'S ALL OF THAT TO HER REPORT.
DOES, I MEAN DOES IT MAKE KIND OF SENSE FOR THAT TO BE EVIDENCE? YES SIR.
I THINK THE MAIN REASON IT WAS PUT UNDER THE COUNTY AUDITOR'S OFFICE AT THAT TIME, THERE WAS NO PERSONNEL AND WE TOOK THOSE DUTIES TO MAKE SURE ALL THE VEHICLES AND EVERYTHING WAS, WAS INSURED.
AND SHE'LL HAVE TO WORK WITH, UH, NIKKI AT UH, JACK'S OFFICE BECAUSE EVERY TIME WE GET A NEW PIECE OF EQUIPMENT OR VEHICLE OR WE GET RID OF ONE THAT HAS TO BE MAINTAINED, BUT WE GET EXTRA CHARGES ON OUR INSURANCE BECAUSE, OR EVEN WORSE, WE BUY A VEHICLE AND IT'S NOT INSURED.
WHICH GUYS WE HAD THAT, I GUESS Y'ALL ARE AWARE OF THAT.
WE HAD SOME VEHICLES THAT DIDN'T PURCHASED THIS A FEW YEARS AGO.
PLUS WE HAD SOME VEHICLES THAT DIDN'T SOLD THAT WE WERE STILL PAYING INSURANCE ON 20 OR 30 VEHICLES.
SO JACK, THIS, DO YOU SEE ANY ISSUE WITH THIS BEING MOVED UH, TO THAT PUTS ALL OF OUR RISK TOLERANCE, ALL OF OUR RISK UNDER ONE OFFICE.
AND SO, UH, WHAT, AND WE'LL GET TO THIS ONE, GET THE BOARD BUDGET, BUT SHE GOT A PART-TIME POSITION THAT SHE WOULD JUST MAKE INTO A FULL-TIME POSITION AND UH, SO, BUT I'D PROBABLY PUT FREE UP KW A LITTLE BIT FOR ALL AUDITOR'S OFFICE IN.
WOULD THAT BE RIGHT? WHO DOES? YEAH.
SINCE MICHAEL'S BEEN MOVED OUT OF MY OFFICE, KW CAN'T GET ANYTHING HARDLY DONE BECAUSE OF EVERYTHING HE'S TAKEN CARE OF TO KEEP US INSURED, KEEP JPS BALANCED AND IT'S WORKING WITH, UH, LAURA'S UH, GROUP BECAUSE WE FOUND SOME ISSUES OF REPORTS NOT MATCHING AND WHAT OUR PREVIOUS EMPLOYEE DID NOT MATCH TO THE GENERAL LEDGER.
AND THAT'S A MAJOR DUTY OF AN AUDITOR'S OFFICE IS TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING BALANCES TO THE GENERAL LEDGER.
SO HE HAS GOT ALL THAT CUT UP, CAUGHT UP AND I THINK IT'S JAMIE AND LAURA ARE LOOKING AT THEIR SIDE OF IT TO SEE WHERE WE'RE NOT AGREEING.
SO WE'RE ACTUALLY AUDITING THE GENERAL LEDGER AND THE REPORTS NOW THAT HAD NOT BEEN DONE.
SO WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THIS VACANT POSITION? THAT VACANT POSITION WILL BE FILLED.
THAT PERSON DOES ALL THE JP BALANCING ALL THE COUNTY CLERK, BALANCING THE DISTRICT CLERK, ALL THE OUTSIDE BANK ACCOUNTS THAT CAROL DOES NOT TAKE CARE OF.
SO IT'S A FULL-TIME POSITION IN ADDITION, THAT POSITION DOING THE INSURANCE? YES.
JUST LIKE PRETTY GOOD ABOUT THIS.
JUST KEEP IN MIND Y'ALL RENT EQUIPMENT OR SOMETHING BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE IT'S ON INSURANCE.
SO TYPICALLY THE PLACE YOU RENT FROM YOUR INSURANCE TWO, THREE TIMES THE COST.
SO WE PUT INSURANCE CHEAPER, YOU KNOW, WHEN Y'ALL RENT SOMETHING WE NEED KNOW STARTING DATE
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WE DON'T HAVE OFF.DO THEY TRY TO SAVE INSURANCE WHENEVER YOU RENT SOMETHING LIKE WELL I THINK IF YOU DON'T SUPPLY IT THEY'LL CHARGE YOU.
THEY EVERY TIME YOU RENT A CAR.
UH, WHEN WE JUST DID THE FINANCING PRE OFF FOR THE MAC TRUCKS AND THE CATERPILLAR, WE HAD TO SEND BOTH OF THOSE COMPANIES PROOF.
PROOF AND THAT, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES TIME TO GET AHOLD OF THE LADY AT ATTACK, GIVE HER ALL THE INFORMATION WHAT WE'RE FINANCING, WHAT IT'S COST AND WHO WHICH PRECINCT SO SHE CAN GET US BACK THE CONFIRMATION WE HAVE AT INSURED.
AND THEN SEND IT TO THE FINANCE COMPANY.
OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE UH, AUDITOR? WE MIGHT, I'LL CALL, UH, LAURA CHANCE.
WE MIGHT, WELL TRY TO GET THAT INSURANCE THIS YEAR IF WE CAN GET IT DONE.
YOU KNOW, SHE CAN GET SOMEBODY IN THAT POSITION ON A FULL BASIS AND TRANSFER AND TRANSFER MONEY LEFT HER.
BUT THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS IT MIGHT BE BETTER TO GO AHEAD AND GET DONE NOW RATHER THAN OVER THE FIRST.
I MEAN TO SOUNDS, ANY QUESTIONS? ANYBODY? ALRIGHT.
UNLESS Y'ALL WANT TO TAKE A BREAK? YOU WANT KEEP I CAN USE A SHORT BREAK.
I GOT SOMETHING I WANT TO BRING UP.
UH, YESTERDAY STEVE EY SAID THAT HE WAS DRIVING 20,000 MILES A YEAR AT AMOUNT TO 1,666 MILES A MONTH.
THAT'S 75 MILES A DAY ON FIVE DAY WORK WEEK.
WHERE DOES HE LIVE? HE LIVES IN TERRIBLE.
WELL I JUST, I JUST GOT THINKING ABOUT LAST NIGHT AND IT JUST SEEMED LIKE 20,000 MILES IS UH, A LITTLE EXCESSIVE FOR THE EMERGENCY MANAGER GUY.
I MEAN MOST TIME HE IS SITTING DOWN THERE AT THE ARMORING TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS DOWN THERE AND YOU KNOW, AND THEY HAVE A FIRE OUT SOMEWHERE.
I MEAN AND WE TAKE OUR TANKER SOMETIMES HE'S THERE NOT SO I JUST THOUGHT I'D BRING IT UP FAR THAT VIDEO AND THAT'S ALL I GOT.
JUDGE WOOD, I'LL FIX YOUR CHAIR THEN.
JUDGE WOOD, CAN I BRING, I THINK I NEED A TORCH.
Y'ALL, WHEN Y'ALL ARE TALKING TO YOUR PEOPLE THAT TAKE TAKE HOME VEHICLES, Y'ALL NEED TO REALLY CAUTION THEM ABOUT USING THEM FOR THINGS THAT ARE NOT COUNTY BUSINESS.
UH, WE HAD SOMEBODY FROM A DEPARTMENT THAT'S A PART-TIMER THAT DRIVES VEHICLE.
HE WAS CAUGHT IN TERRELL HALL HAY IN A COUNTY TRUCK.
AND Y'ALL NEED TO CAUTION THEM THAT THAT'S NOT GOOD.
BECAUSE IF THEY HAD A WRECK, GUESS WHO'S RESPONSIBLE? THE COUNTY.
I MIGHT HAVE A FEW MORE DETAILS ON THAT.
BUT I, Y'ALL SEE THESE PEOPLE 'CAUSE THEY'RE IN YOUR PRECINCTS AND IT WOULD JUST HELP IF Y'ALL KIND OF INSTILL IT TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE CITIZENS ARE SEEING IT.
IN FACT, IT WAS A CITIZEN THAT REPORTED IT TO ME.
DID YOU REPORT IT TO WHOEVER THAT VEHICLE WAS? UH, NO SIR, I HAVEN'T BECAUSE I WAS GONNA JUST LEAVE IT ALONE.
I THINK YOU SHOULD REPORT IT AT THE VERY LEAST, DETERMINATION, BUT VERY REPRIMAND.
BUT I'M JUST TELLING Y'ALL IT'S GOT TAGS.
DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING BEFORE WE BREAK? I DON'T, I WAS GONNA SAY I SOMETHING.
WELL, LET'S TAKE A BREAK AND UH, OPEN
ONLY THING I'LL ADD TO THIS JUST WAIT TILL TOMORROW IS THERE'S A LOT OF TRAINING AND STUFF THAT NOT TIME ISSUES ON WHAT
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THINGS KIND OF OUTTA WHACK BE THE SUPPLIES.WANNA REMIND YOU GUYS, YOU MAY OR NOT KNOW THAT IN MY BUDGET TWO, BUT IT HADN'T BEEN HIT MUCH.
BUT I, AND THAT WILL CONTINUE EVEN WHEN UP STAIRS.
YOU KNOW, FOLKS ARE MOVING UP THERE.
SO WE, WE BUY STUFF THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE USE.
SO I WOULD'VE JUST PAID, UH, ON YOUR, YOU YOU DO RECEIVE A CAR ALLOWANCE JUST LIKE ALL THE COMMISSIONERS AND I DO SEVERAL OTHERS.
UH, DO YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE WHETHER IT SAYS AS A CARL OR AS A, UH, PART OF YOUR SALARY, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
YOU KNOW, SEVERAL OF THEM LAST YEAR WE MOVED JUST TO BE A PART OF THE SALARY AND I THINK Y'ALL MAY HAVE USED NUMBER AS MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE NOT YOU MOVE IT THE WAY PAYROLL IS SET UP, YOU'RE STILL, IT'S INCLUDED ON YOUR CHECK ONCE A MONTH AND UM, YOU'RE TAXED ON IT THAT WAY IF WE CHANGE THAT, THE WHOLE PAYROLLS CHANGES TO MAKE IT MORE RIGHT.
OTHER THING I MIGHT ADD TO THAT, JUST, JUST THINKING OUT LOUD IS, UH, GOING FORWARD THE NEXT PERSON COMES INTO JOB, UH, INTERVIEW SALARY.
YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S, I HAVE PEOPLE NOT HAVING SUN OUT UNDERSTAND.
ON THE ISSUE, WHEN WE WERE $17,000 COMMISSIONER'S BASE SALARY WAS TAXED AT A HIGHER RATE, BUT THE 17,000 SALARY OR 17,000 CAR HOUSE WAS TAXED AS A 17,000 SALARY.
SO THERE WAS VERY HELD OUT, HELD OUT, OUT ON.
AND SO WHEN YOU GO THROUGH YOUR TAX, YOU BIG SOMETHING THE COMPUTER TAKES OUT, THAT'S ALL YOU MADE WAS 17,000 IN THIS CASE.
SO YOU HAVE TO KICK IN MORE DEALS, BUT IT IS, YEAH, BUT IT IS CALCULATED AS PART OF THE RETIREMENT.
JACK, YOU GOT ANY, ANY OTHER CLAIMS OR ANY, ANY QUESTIONS? I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING.
YOU, EVERY PRIOR TO THAT WE WERE, WE WERE DOING ABOUT FOUR YEAR AND THEN FIRST FOUR MONTHS PEOPLE.
ARE YOU HAVING ANY STRATEGIES? YEAH, WE'RE HAVING ISSUES.
BIGGEST PROBLEM WE HAVE IS SOME, YOU HAVE 40 DEPARTMENTS, THEY HAVE BUDGET.
I EXPECT WE KEEP UP THEIR BUDGET WHEN AND THEN THAT'S GETTING BETTER.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE, THERE'S PROBABLY A TIME WE'RE CUT OFF.
WE FIND MONEY FOR THINGS THAT WERE NEVER DISCUSSED.
HEARD YOU GUYS FIND OUT WHAT MONTH, FIND OUT WHERE, WHERE IT'S COMING FROM THERE TALKING ABOUT DISCUSSED.
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I THINK A LOT OF IT'S AND AND THEY'RE NOT EMERGENCIES.A LOT OF IT IS JUST BUILDING ISSUES.
YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU WANT TO FIX IT OR WHERE YOU WANT DO WHATEVER.
I TEND TO BELIEVE THAT SOMETIMES IT'S LINE, BUT THEN ONCE YOU GUYS A BLESSING COME, IT MAKE IT MUCH EASIER FOR DOCTOR MYSELF.
WE DO, YOU KNOW, WHEN ONE TALKS ABOUT IT, THE OTHERS HEAR ABOUT IT AND THERE'S JUST SO MUCH MONEY TO PULL OUTTA THAT PATH.
OTHER THAN THAT IT MAKES IT KIND OF HARD TOO WHEN Y'ALL APPROVE THINGS FOR ME TO FIND THE MONEY SOMETIMES.
YOU GUYS, I'M JUST BEING, JUST BEING TRUTHFUL.
UH, I MEAN USUALLY ROAD BRIDGE, WE USUALLY HAVE Y'ALL SOME CONTINGENCY LINE ITEM DOWN THERE TO KEEP IT A BALANCED BUDGET.
AND THAT'S THE REASON I DO IT BECAUSE SOMETIMES Y'ALL COME UP AND NEED A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT OR SOME MAJOR REPAIR, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE FOUND OUT IF SOMETHING COMES UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR AND THEY JUST WANT TO DO THAT PROJECT OR THEY NEED THAT ITEM, THEN THEY'LL COME TO JUDGE WOOD AND OUT OF THE GOODNESS OF HIS HEART, HE LISTENS AND TRIES TO HELP.
BUT THEN IT'S UP TO ME TO FIND THE MONEY AND SOMETIMES I JUST CAN'T FIND IT.
DO I UNDERSTAND, I I'LL COMMEND Y'ALL BECAUSE THE LAST, THIS THIRD YEAR THAT I'VE WORKED WITH Y'ALL ON BUDGET, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF FINE TUNING AND IT'S REALLY NICE TO HAVE THESE PEOPLE COMING IN FROM THESE DEPARTMENTS AND THEY'RE NOT NEEDING A WHOLE LOT OF EXTRA STUFF OR THE BUDGET STAYS THE SAME BECAUSE THEY FOUND THAT THEY CAN OPERATE UNDER IT WITHOUT SOMETHING.
THE TRAINING FOR THEM, THEY HAD THE LETTER APPROVED.
WELL THEN WE KNOW THAT'S NECESSARY.
WE NEED TO FIND THAT STUFF AND PUT IT IN THERE.
YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S COME IN WITH MINIMAL REQUEST.
I LIKE KAREN WAIT TILL KARENDALE, UH, I'M, I'M SHOCK OR PRESS WHATEVER WORD IT IS.
UH, SHE KEEPS THE WHEELS ON ON THIS THING BECAUSE WHEN WE DO BUDGET EVERY YEAR'S TIME, WE JUST BARELY MAKE BUDGET AND THEN ALL YEAR LONG WE'RE ASKING FOR MONEY TO UH, DO THIS PROJECT.
THAT'S, WELL OUR BUDGET IS A LOT MORE, YOU KNOW, A BUDGET IS IS AN ESTIMATE.
IT'S, BUT OUR BUDGET WAS SO OUT OF CONTROL, YOU KNOW, THAT'S LEAST, IT'S MUCH BETTER.
IT'S A BETTER ESTIMATE THAN NOT PERFECT, BUT YEAH.
AND PURCHASING HAS BEEN THAT PART BECAUSE NOW WE'RE ENFORCING OUR PURCHASING OFFICE AND THAT THAT HELPS.
UH, I THINK IT'S FOR TAXPAYERS.
THEY CAN GET ONLINE OR SOMETHING AND THEY CAN SEE WHAT THE COUNTY SPEND.
WE DON'T REALLY PROVIDE THAT MOST PLACES FOOT.
INFORM THIS TIME GET A LOT BETTER, BUT TRANSPARENT.
I GO BACK TO RICHMOND, YOU LOOK AT PARTS DEPARTMENT, THEY HAVE 5 MILLION BUDGET, WEEDERS, EVERYTHING.
THERE'S ALWAYS THAT FLEXIBILITY.
I, FOR A TRACTOR, MY PICKUP, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST GOING OUT THERE.
BUT JUST TO ME IT LIKE TRANSPARENT FOR THE TAXPAYER TO SEE THE ISSUE WE HAVE ON THE TRANSPARENCY IS YOU GOTTA BE ABLE UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE AT.
SOME PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE, THEY DON'T TAKE THE TIME OR THEY DON'T TRULY KNOW OR THEY DON'T TRULY UNDERSTAND IT.
I MEAN IT'S NOT BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANNA, THEY DUNNO.
SOME OF THE GROUPS THAT I'M A PART OF, THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT, UH, YOUR COUNTY IS VERY, VERY BLESSED BECAUSE SOME OF THEM HAVE A COUNTY AUDITOR THAT WILL NOT AMEND THE BUDGET ONCE IT'S WRITTEN.
AND I TRY TO BE FLEXIBLE AND HELP EVERYBODY
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AND A LOT OF TIMES I GET BLAMED FOR THE WRONG THINGS, YOU KNOW, BUT WE HAVE TO, UH, WORK TOGETHER AND WHEN Y'ALL COME UP AND Y'ALL NEED SOMETHING, I'VE NEVER DENIED TRYING TO HELP ONE OF Y'ALL.AND I APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S RESPECT AND HELP BACK TO GET THIS IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND SAVE SOME, SOME MONEY I PLACES FOR
YOU TOLD ME THAT THAT ALL COMMISSIONERS AND THE SHERIFF LOCK JOB.
AND THEN ONE OF OUR, ONE OF OUR COMMISSIONER AUDITOR TRAINING CLASSES, GAR, THAT STARTED OFF WITH A POLICE ATTACK NOW OF POLICE ATTACK.
NOW GERMAN CHAIR TEETH BACK, LIKE IF THERE AND THE GUY HOLDING BACK LIKE THERE SAYS THIS YOUR AUDITOR
SO THAT, SO IT'S KIND OF TALKED TO THE COMMISSION TO BE THAT WAY.
WELL AND YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T REALLY SHOULDN'T MAKE IT PERSONAL IF WE TELL 'EM NO, BUT WE CAN DO IT THIS WAY.
IT'S BECAUSE THE AUDITOR'S SITTING THERE AS AN INDEPENDENT NEUTRAL POSITION AND THEY CAN LOOK AT THINGS FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF IT AND SAY YOU CAN'T DO IT THAT WAY, BUT WE CAN DO IT THIS WAY AND SHOW 'EM HOW TO DO IT.
'CAUSE REALLY IF YOUR AUDITOR GIVES YOUR GREEN LIGHT, THEN THAT SAYS YOU'RE DOING YOUR JOB.
ANYWAY, WE'RE OFF OUR SOAPBOX, WHICH IS A GOOD THING.
GET JOHNNY YOU WANT COME UP IN THE HOT SEAT RIGHT HERE.
JOHNNY DOESN'T HAVE ANY, UH, YOU HAVE NO REQUEST.
NO REQUEST ONLY QUESTION OUT HERE.
UH, I CAN'T, CAROL COULDN'T RETIRE MAY 1ST.
I MEAN SHE, SHE, SHE, SHE RETIRED.
SHE, BUT, UH, SHE COULD, YOU KNOW HOW SHE AND SO NEED A COUPLE MONTHS TRAINING WHEN WAS FIRST SOMETHING JOB WE HAVE, UH, INCLUDED ADDITIONAL TRAINING MONEY IN STW ALSO FOR THAT TOO.
ONE THING I THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAVE A GREAT DEAL IS THAT THE TWO OFFICES ARE GONNA BE ON THE SAME.
I MEAN IT'S JUST THE COMMUNICATION PART.
WHEN EVERYBODY'S HERE ON THE SAME BUILDING, THAT'S GONNA MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE.
THIS THING WITH THIS POSITIVE THING.
SO FAR WE RECEIVED 60 EMAILS SAYING THAT CHECKS HAD COME THROUGH, DIDN'T WEREN'T AUTHORIZED BECAUSE KW I GUESS WE GOT LINE.
UH, KW WAS WORKING WITH, UH, I CAN'T THINK OF HIS NAME, THE TREASURY MANAGEMENT GUY AT THE BANK.
AND THEY WERE DOING SOME TEST FILES, BUT I HADN'T HEARD ANYMORE ABOUT IT.
I UNDERSTAND TOMORROW ONE TIME HE'S NOT REAL ALLOWED IN THERE YET.
KWS NOT SO
SO IF SOMEBODY WAS TO CHANGE IT, SO WE WROTE A HUNDRED DOLLARS CHECK AND THEY CHANGED IT TO 10,000, THEY WOULD FLAG CAROL IN OUR OFFICE AND GET AHOLD OF US AS THIS CHECK LEGITIMATE.
AND WE'VE DONE THAT ON THE PAYROLL ACCOUNT, THE BIG OPERATING ACCOUNT AND THE DEBT SERVICE ACCOUNTS AND THE, I THINK THE JURY TOO.
WE, SO WE'RE STILL IN A TRAINING SESSION ON THAT ONE.
WHAT CAR LICENSE, WHAT DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU PERSONALLY USE YOUR CAR ANYMORE? THERE'S NO REASON FOR TREASURY TO HAVE ALLOWANCE BECAUSE
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BUSINESS HERE, I HAD PAYROLL YEARS TO, TO SCHOOL OFTEN.BUT YOU DO HAVE, UH, TRAINING.
I MEAN YOU DO HAVE MILEAGE MEALS.
SO THE CAR ALLOWANCE FOR THAT OFFICE BECAUSE IT COULD BE ELIMINATED.
I WOULD SUGGEST WE DO THAT IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S A NEED FOR PAID.
OKAY, SO LET'S, WHILE, WHILE JOHNNY'S HERE, LET'S ELIMINATE THE CAR LINES.
UH, BUT LET'S GO DOWN HERE TO, UH, TRAINING, UH, EDUCATION AND CONFERENCE.
UH, WITH, DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS WITH PERSONNEL IN THAT OFFICE, THERE MAY BE SOME ADDITIONAL NEEDS.
I KNOW WE SPENT 530, I DID NOT GO TO MY SCHOOL THIS YEAR.
SO WHAT WAS YOUR SCHOOL BUDGET? STILL GOOD.
IS THERE SCHOOLS THAT YOU'RE HAVE SO MAYBE 1500? YEAH.
ON THE TRAINING AND CONFERENCES AND THEN ON THE MILEAGE MILL AND LODGING, UH, MAYBE INCREASE AT IT WAS 1122, WHICH IS KIND OF STRANGE NUMBER, BUT MAYBE INCREASE THAT TO 1500.
YOU THINK THAT'D BE ENOUGH? ARE THEY GOING, HAVE NEW PEOPLE COME IN? WILL THEY HAVE TO ATTEND CLASSES? PROBABLY HERE.
ONE SO THAT HE IS GOT ONE SCHOOL.
THAT OUGHT BE, BUT HE'S GOT HIS STAFF THAT, THAT THEY'RE GONNA TRAIN HERE THOUGH.
WELL, SOME OF THEM WILL BE HERE.
I I WOULD, I WOULD IF HAVE IT THERE IF THEY DON'T NEED IT, WE CAN ELIMINATE NEXT YEAR.
ELIMINATING THE CAR ALLOWANCE.
BUT THAT GIVES HIM SOME TRAINING BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE HAD A NEW TRAILER IN WHAT, 12 YEARS? AND IF YOUR STAFF LEAVES NOT 15 88, 12 TO LAS VEGAS
UH, THERE'S NOTHING IN HERE FOR MISCELLANEOUS.
IT'S UH, ONE TIME WE HAD MISCELLANEOUS, WE, WE GUY JUST FOR THINGS.
UH, JOANIE WILL THAT, UM, 3 25 FOR THE BOND.
WELL IT SHOULD BE THAT BOND YOU HAVE PAY.
ANY, ANY, UH, UH, ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE AUDIT? I MEAN FOR THE UH,
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CREDIT.KAREN, DID YOU GET ALL THESE DOWN? YES SIR.
I'VE ALREADY GOT AND THE 8 37 50, THAT'S THE REMAINDER OF YOUR LONGEVITY.
YEAH, I HAVEN'T Y'ALL GOT ANYTHING ELSE? I KNOW COUPLE OF GONNA GET UP AND SHARE.
THE ONLY COMMENT I GOT IS, IS UH, DO YOU THINK YOU'LL HAVE TO HIRE SOMEONE BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR IF CAROL, DO YOU THINK CAROL WILL RETIRE BEFORE JANUARY OR NO? NO, SHE NEXT MAY.
I THOUGHT YOU MEANT NO MAY 1ST HEARD.
I THOUGHT SHE MEANT SHE WAS ALREADY ELIGIBLE.
UH, ANY, ANYTHING ELSE FOR JOHNNY? THANK YOU.
WE NEED TO TAKE A BREAK AND UH, 30 MINUTES CHECK IN AND CHECK OUT.
I DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY BIG ISSUES.
WE'LL WE'RE GONNA TAKE A BREAK.
WHAT TIME ARE Y'ALL COMING BACK? 10 15.
JUDGE ASKED, I'M ABOUT A BREAK.
TOM SAID MAYBE UP TO A DOWN UP TO A DOWN THAT A GRADE EIGHT.
THANK YOU LAURIE FOR COMING IN AND UH, LET'S SEE.
JUST KIND OF START OFF THE CONVERSATION.
WE'RE NOT, UH, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS I, WE TRY TO DO AS THE COURT IS GIVE OVERALL RAISES TO THE ENTIRE STAFF EMPLOYEES.
AND ON INDIVIDUAL RAISES, UH, OF COURSE WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION.
IF SO, WE'RE UH, NOT UH, POINT, I DO A WHOLE LOT WITH THAT.
BUT OTHER THAN NOTE THAT YOU HAVE, UH, ASKED FOR WHAT, YOU KNOW, AFTER YOU DID THE STUDY, WHICH IS WHAT I'D ASKED YOU TO, TO DO.
AND THEN ON THE, UH, WE TALKED THIS MORNING ABOUT THE, UH, TALK WITH KAREN A. LITTLE BIT ABOUT MOVING ALL OF THE INSURANCE TO YOUR DEPARTMENT.
AND KAREN GLADLY IS WILLING TO GIVE THAT UP.
AND SO, UH, THE UH, DEPUTIES THAT YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW, YOU HAVE ONE.
AND UH, UH, AND THEN YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A SECOND PERSON IN THE HR DEPARTMENT THAT WOULD HANDLE INSURANCE AND OTHER THINGS.
AND SO THAT WOULD UH, I BELIEVE I THINK WE DISCUSSED ABOUT NOT HAVING A EXTRA HELP STUDY.
IS THAT OKAY? WELL, I MEAN THAT'S WHAT I GET.
I LIKE HAVING AN EXTRA HELP BECAUSE IT COVERS, SHE USUALLY DOESN'T GO TO TRAINING WITH US.
SO THEN IT COVERS WHENEVER WE GO TO TRAINING AND WE'RE ALWAYS HERE ANSWER PHONES AND HAVE PEOPLE.
BUT IF MY OPTIONS ARE KEEP PART TIME AND NOT GET A FULL TIME, I'D MUCH RATHER PREFER DAYTIME.
WELL AND I THINK IN THAT REGARD, OF COURSE IT WOULD BE GOOD IF YOU COULD ALWAYS HAVE SOMEBODY IN THE OFFICE, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER THE TRAINING WOULD BE NICE, RIGHT? ALL THREE.
BUT AT ANY RATE, UH, COMMISSIONERS YOU HEAR THE REQUEST, UH, FOR
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THE ADDITIONAL, UH, PERSON AND AGAIN ON SALARIES RIGHT.TO WE TRYING TO MAKE SOME EQUITY ADJUSTMENTS.
BUT AS FAR AS THE TOTAL SALARY REQUEST WAS TRYING TO WE'RE SO WHAT YOUR PLEASURE AS FAR AS MAKING THE PART-TIME PERSON AND THE EXTRA HELP INTO A FULL-TIME PERSON THAT WILL ASSIST AND THAT'LL PUT ALL OF OUR INSURANCE UNDER ONE UMBRELLA, WHICH I THINK MAKES GOOD SENSE.
WHICH IS REALLY WHAT T WOULD LIKE TO SEE US.
AND WE'VE GOT TWO OUT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE THAT HANDLE WORKERS' COMP.
SO THERE'S THREE OF US HANDLING WORKERS' COMP.
SO IT CAN TURN INTO A MESS WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO FIND WHO'S CLAIMING THAT KIND OF THING.
SO YOU RATHER HAVE A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE RATHER THAN ANY PART-TIME AT ALL.
BECAUSE I WOULD NEED A FULL-TIME PERSON TO HANDLE ALL THE INSURANCE.
IT'S A FULL-TIME JOB IN ITSELF.
AT WHAT LEVEL WOULD THAT BE? THE 30,000 THE EMPLOYEES MAKING? THE CURRENT EMPLOYEE YES.
SO WE'D HAVE AN INCREASE OF 10,000 FROM 20 TO 30.
DO DO AWAY WITH THE EXTRA HELP AND ADD ANOTHER SALARY DEPUTIES INCREASE THAT TOO.
THIRD TIME WHETHER IT WOULD BE ANOTHER PERSON.
SO IT WOULD BE 60, 30,000 1 79 TIMES TWO GUESS.
WELL, YEAH, I MEAN WE'D DO AWAY WITH THE EXTRA HELP.
SO, SO WHO'S DOING THE INSURANCE JOB NOW? UH, MOST OF IT GOES THROUGH THE, UH, OFFICER'S OFFICE.
KAREN'S PEOPLE ARE DO AND EXCEPT FOR THE HEALTH INSURANCE? NO, WE DO ALL THE HEALTH INSURANCE.
WE DO ALL THE WORKER'S COMP YEAH.
SO THE DUTIES WOULD BE REMOVED FROM THAT PERSON AND YOU RETAIN THAT PERSON IN YOUR OFFICE JUST REMOVED.
AND THAT'S WHY WE HAD TO HIRE AN PERSON.
WELL WE MOVE, WE DO AWAY WITH THE PART-TIME EXTRA HELP THAT IT'S ABOUT 10 50 PLUS INSURED.
BUT THE REQUIREMENT WOULD BE THAT ALL OF THE WORKERS' COMP, ALL OF THE INSURANCE WOULD GO THROUGH THAT OFFICE, THE HR OFFICE.
BUT YOU SAID THERE'S TWO PEOPLE AT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT THAT WORKERS COMP, THEY DIDN'T KNOW THEIR OWN WORKERS' COMP OUT BECAUSE BEFORE I WAS BROUGHT ON, WORKERS' COMP WAS A HUGE ISSUE.
AND SO TA CAME DOWN AND EVALUATED AND TOLD THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT THAT WITH THE NUMBER OF WORKERS' COMP CLAIMS Y'ALL HAD WOULD BE BEST IF Y'ALL TOOK YOUR WORKERS' COMP.
SO AT THAT POINT IT WAS SPLIT.
SO THE TREASURER'S OFFICE WAS HANDLING ALL THE WORKERS' COMP FOR THE COUNTY, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
SO THEY'VE GOT ONE ON THE JAIL SIDE, ONE ON THE DEPUTY SIDE THAT HANDLE THE WORKERS' COMP.
THAT'S THEIR FULL-TIME DUTIES? NO, NO, NO, NO.
OH, THAT'S ADDITION TO OTHER DUTIES.
LIKE ONE OF 'EM IS CARLA THAT HANDLE HANDLES THEM AND ONE OF THEM IS, UM, LIEUTENANT HILL THAT HANDLES 'EM.
SO THEY DO ALL OTHER DUTIES, BUT THEY HANDLE THEIR CLAIMS AS WELL.
AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT BACK SO THAT WE'RE HANDLING ALL THE CLAIMS BECAUSE WHEN THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH THE CLAIM OR THERE'S AN ISSUE, TACK CALLS ME AND THEN I HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT, 'CAUSE HALF THE TIME, IF IT'S AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT IT UNTIL IT GOES BACK.
I THINK IT'D BE A GOOD IDEA FOR IT TO GO THROUGH YOUR OFFICE.
AND I I I TOTALLY AGREE, BUT IT WAS SET UP LIKE THAT NEEDS TO GO RIGHT BECAUSE IT WASN'T WAS IN CHARGE.
I MEAN IT WAS JUST OUT THERE AND THAT'S WHERE WE WERE IN SUCH SAD SHAPE.
AND THE NUMBER, OUR NUMBER OF CLAIMS ARE DRAMATICALLY LOWER.
AND I THINK THAT WAS THE CONCERN AT THAT TIME WAS THEY WERE, WE HAD A LOT OF CLAIMS AND A LOT OF THEM WENT AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THEY KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON SO THEY COULD HANDLE 'EM BETTER.
AND NOW OUR CLAIMS ARE DOWN AND UM, WE CAN HANDLE 'EM ALL ONE PERSON NOW, I THINK THAT'D SO ON THE SALARY WOULD FOR THE EXISTING DEPUTY THAT YOU HAVE NOW AT 35? YES.
AND THEN THE NEW PERSON WOULD BE AT 32? YES.
WELL, WHAT WE DID ON THE JPS, I MEAN, I'M JUST, SO BE A NEW HIRE AND THEN THEY'LL GET A, THEY'LL GET A RAISE FIRST, RATTLE OUT THE BOX.
THE DIFFERENCE ON THIS, THE JPS IS, IS THAT THE JPS ALREADY THEIR CHIEF ASSISTANT OR WHATEVER THEY CALL IT, WE'RE ALREADY DOING THE
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DUTIES AND, BUT WE HAVE PAY EQUITY BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, THEY WEREN'T ALL BEING PAID THE SAME AMOUNT.THIS IS A STANDALONE OFFICE AND THERE'S NO OTHER OFFICE TO COMPARE TO, I GUESS THE TREASURER'S OFFICE WHERE DEPUTY A LOT MORE THAN TURKEY.
SO WHO'S GONNA GET THE 35? TIFFANY? MM-HMM
OKAY THEN, THEN SHE, SHE'S YOUR PART-TIME HELP.
SO SHE'S GONNA COME ON FULL TIME? I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW IF SHE WANTS TO GO BACK FULL TIME, I'LL GIVE HER THE OPTION, BUT OKAY.
SHE DOESN'T, THEN I WOULD HIRE SOMEONE LICENSE, YES.
UH, THAT LOGICAL, TO ME, THAT'S ONCE YOU START OPENING THAT INDIVIDUAL RAISED DEAL, YOU GOTTA GO ALONG WITH IT.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE OTHER SIDE OF IT.
SOME OF IT MAY NOT GO, SOME OF IT MAY.
I JUST SUPERINTENDENT YOU GUY 30,046 OR WHATEVER.
WHICH HAS COMMISSIONERS ON YOUR ROAD BRIDGE PRECINCTS, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT.
SO THAT'S NOT, BUT YOU'RE TRYING TO UNIFORM POSITIONS, THAT'S HOW YOU PRETTY MUCH EASY EXTRA HELP.
YOU KNOW, THEY GONNA TAKE INSURANCE AND EXTRA WORKER'S COMP AND ALL THAT.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU DISCUSSED.
BUT WE'LL GO AND CREATE, TURN THE PART-TIME POSITION INTO A FULLTIME POSITION AND THAT, THAT'S, AND YOU'RE RECOMMENDING A SALARY OF ABOUT 32,000.
AGAIN, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WOULD BE WHY, YOU KNOW, PAY SYSTEM HAVE, THANK YOU.
YEAH, I, I LOOKED INTO THAT AND A LOT OF COUNTIES, THEY HIRE OUTSIDE HELP TO COME IN BECAUSE THEY DO SURVEYS OF NOT ONLY WHAT EVERYBODY'S DOING AND I CAN DO THAT PART, WHICH I HAVE STARTED WITH THE JOB DESCRIP AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
BUT THEN THEY ALSO TALK TO OTHER COUNTIES THAT ARE SIMILAR.
THEY TALK TO SURROUNDING COUNTIES THAT ARE SIMILAR AND THEY TRY TO PUT THAT TOGETHER TO SAY THIS IS WHAT THEY RECOMMEND.
THESE KIND OF JOBS SHOULD BE PAID AND THAT KIND THING.
I DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DO THAT.
THEY ONLY DO IT FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS.
THEY, THAT TOPIC WAS BROUGHT UP AT THE LAST CONFERENCE.
A LOT OF PEOPLE ASKED IF T WOULD BE WILLING TO DO THAT AND THEIR COMMENT WAS, THEY'VE DONE IT IN THE PAST, BUT THEY DON'T GET PARTICIPATION FROM ALL THE COUNTIES.
SO THEN IT'S NOT BENEFICIAL TO ALL THE COUNTIES BECAUSE THEY ONLY GET, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED COUNTIES TO PARTICIPATE INSTEAD OF ALL OF THEM.
SO THEY SURVEY VOLUNTARY, SO YEAH.
SO THEY HAVE SOME DON'T WANT, YEAH, THEY ALL, A LOT OF COUNTIES HAVE EXPRESSED THEIR CONCERN FOR TECH TO HELP US WITH THAT BECAUSE A LOT OF COMPANY, I MEAN A LOT OF SMALLER COUNTIES DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO GO HIRE A FIRM TO COME IN AND DO THAT RESEARCH.
VERY COMES WHEN IT COMES BACK IN ASSURED THAT PEOPLE, OUR PEOPLE ARE UNDERPAID.
AND I, THAT'S WHAT YOU'LL FIND OUT OVER THERE.
AND THEY FIND OUT THAT PEOPLE ARE PAYING 30 SHOULD BE MAKING, BUT THERE ARE SOME TOO THAT, UM, ARE OVERPAID.
I HAD A FRIEND IN THE COUNTY, SHE WAS TELLING, THEY JUST FINISHED DOING IT.
SHE'S IN A BIGGER COUNTY AND SHE HAD TWO PEOPLE THAT GOT A SIGNIFICANT PAY DECREASE BECAUSE THEY WERE WAY OVERPAID.
SO YOU HAVE BOTH ENDS OF THE SPECTRUM.
YOU'VE GOT BOTH ENDS OF THE SPECTRUM.
PEOPLE BEING UNDERPAID, SO BEING OVERPAID AND YOU'RE GONNA MAKE SOMEBODY MAD ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO, SOMEBODY'S GONNA BE UNHAPPY.
IT'S A GOOD SCENARIO TO BID, BUT IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE.
AND THERE'S BEEN TALK TOO THAT SOME COUNTIES ARE TRYING TO GET TOGETHER TO SPLIT THE COST AND WORK TOGETHER AND TRYING TO DO THAT KIND OF THING.
AND NOTHING'S BEEN SET IN STONE YET, BUT IT'S ALL OUT THERE.
WE'RE ALL TRYING TO GET TOGETHER TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING BECAUSE IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE TO DO.
WELL LEMME SAY THIS, YOU KNOW, I WAS LOOKING AT LAURA'S AT THE COUNTY CLERK.
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I WAS LOOKING AT, UH, THOMAS AND THE DISTRICT CLERKS AND MOST OF THE LADIES THERE ARE MAKING LESS THAN 30,000.SO WE KIND OF GOT A WATCH RAISING YOUR DEPARTMENT WAY ABOVE WHAT THEY ARE.
I THINK WE KIND OF GET, GOTTA KEEP IT ON THE, EVEN TILL I THINK WE LOOK AT THAT 30, 28 30 MAYBE START YOUR NEW, NEW EMPLOYEE OUT AT 28, NOT 30 AND, AND MAYBE NOT YOUR OTHER UP AS MUCH.
I STRONGLY DISAGREE WITH THAT.
I'M GONNA SAY THAT WE GOT LOTS OF LADIES THAT HAVE BEEN HERE LONG TIME AND PLUS THEY'VE NOT HAD ANY KIND OF AN INCREASE FOUR OR FIVE YEARS EXCEPT FOR THE ONE TIME YEAR.
WIND UP DOING WE ALL COMPENSATION ABOUT ALL THAT.
MOVING ON DOWN THE BUDGET, ON THE MILEAGE, YOU'RE ASKING FOR A, UH, 500 INCREASE THERE IS, UH, THROUGH THE END OF MARCH OR THROUGH THE END OF APRIL.
YEAH, WE'VE GOT ONE MORE CONFERENCE COMING UP.
BUT I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TO SEND MY EMPLOYEE.
AND IF I GET A THIRD EMPLOYEE AND THEN THE TRAINING EDUCATION CONFERENCE, UH, THAT'S THE, UH, REGISTRATION YES.
FEES, UH, THE EMPLOYEE DRUG TEST, THAT'S FOR ALL THE EMPLOYEES? YES.
I DID NOT HAVE, UM, WE HAVE NOT DONE A, UM, RANDOM DRUG TEST ON THE CDL DRIVERS.
I HAVE TIME TO DO TWO MORE THIS YEAR AND IF I DO THAT, I'LL EXHAUST THAT BUDGET.
UM, BUT I HAVEN'T DONE IT BECAUSE WE'VE HAD A SIGNIFICANT, UM, TURNOVER.
SO WE, A LOT OF THAT MONEY HAS BEEN GOING FOR NEW HIRES FOR THEIR DRUG.
SO I'VE BEEN SAVING THAT MONEY FOR SO A HUNDRED DOLLARS WILL DO IT.
NO, NO, THAT IS, UM, I MEAN THE FREE HOUSING WILL DO IT.
SO YOU'RE REDUCING YOUR NEW HIRE, REDUCING THE NEW HIRE BACKGROUND.
YEAH, WE PUT $500 IN THERE LAST YEAR, BUT THE COST OF MY TO RUN A BACKGROUND IS A DOLLAR A SEARCH.
AND SO I DON'T PLAN ON, AND IF I HAVE TO DO THE PUBLIC SEARCH, IT'S $3 A SEARCH.
SO I'VE ONLY SPENT $30, WHICH I THINK I'VE SPENT A LITTLE MORE THAN $30.
YEAH, SO I MEAN, AND WE DID, WE HAD THE JP AND SO WE HAD A LOT OF, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT I'LL GO OVER A HUNDRED NEXT YEAR.
SO YOU REDUCED IT BY 400 AND DIDN'T INCREASE THE EMPLOYEE DRUG TEST TO 3000.
WILL THAT GIVE YOU PLENTY OF DRUG TESTS FOR MONEY FOR NEXT YEAR? I THINK SO.
UM, I THINK THIS YEAR WE JUST HAD A LOT OF NEW HIRES, SO IT'S BUMPING BACK SOME.
SO I'M HOPING THAT WE WON'T HAVE AS MANY FINGERS CROSSED.
I'M HOPING TO KEEP SOME PEOPLE AROUND A LITTLE BIT.
UH, ON, ON ON THE, UH, TRAINING EDUCATION AND CONFERENCE SING, ANYBODY HAVE ANY, ANY, ANY ISSUES WITH INCREASE? THERE WAS ONE TT CONFERENCE YEAR WAS GONNA REIMBURSE.
HECK THEY PAY FOR TC D DOESN'T REIMBURSE.
UM, THE ONE, THE HEALTHY COUNTY REIMBURSE.
OH, THE POOL SYMPOSIUM, THEY REIMBURSE.
THEY ONLY DO THAT ONCE, UH, EVERY OTHER YEAR AND THEY REIMBURSE, UM, FULLY FOR ONE EMPLOYEE TO GO.
AND SO I WENT TO THAT AND THEY WERE ABLE TO REIMBURSE THAT FULLY.
UM, BUT THEY DON'T, THEY ALSO DO WHAT THEY CALL FULL WORKSHOPS.
THEY DO THOSE EVERY OTHER YEAR.
SO THIS YEAR, UM, THEY REIMBURSED US OR PAID FOR US TO GO.
WE WENT TO FRISCO, SO IT DIDN'T COST ANYTHING FOR US TO HAVE THAT TRAINING.
NEXT YEAR THEY HAVE A THREE DAY CONFERENCE AND THEN THE VOLUNTEER, THEY'LL HAVE A ONE DAY, SO THEY SWITCH BACK AND FORTH.
BUT WHEN THEY HAVE THAT, THAT'S FREE FOR ONE EMPLOYEE.
SO IF I WANTED TO TAKE AN EMPLOYEE, WE'D HAVE TO PAY AN ELECTED OFFICIAL OR THE HR PERSON ONE ELECTED OFFICIAL.
SO IT HADN'T BEEN AN ELECTED OFFICIAL TO GO AND I TRIED TO SAY, HEY, CAN I BRING ANOTHER PERSON INSTEAD OF ELECTED OFFICIAL? THEY DO THAT.
I I WANTED TO GO THAT JUST LEARN ABOUT IT.
BUT IT WAS A VERY GOOD, IT'S A VERY GOOD CONFERENCE.
YEAH, THEY DO, UM, WORKSHOPS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR
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ON THEIR OFF YEARS OF DOING THAT AND THEY HAVE THEM ALL OVER.WE WENT TO FRISCO FOR THAT ONE.
LET'S GO BACK UP TO THE EXTRA HELP THING.
AND UH, WHEN WE TALKED WITH KAREN ABOUT IT, UH, WHILE SHE'S READY TO GIVE IT UP, I MEAN AS SAP NOT SO, UH, DO WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND AND BEGIN THAT THIS YEAR? BECAUSE SHE STILL HAS, UH, QUITE A BIT OF MONEY LEFT IN THE, UH, HER BUDGET AS FAR AS EXTRA HELP.
YEAH, MY EXTRA HELP WAS OUT FOR LIKE TWO MONTHS.
SO, SO CAN YOU BRING SOMEBODY IN, UH, FOR THE REST OF THIS YEAR TO GET STARTED ON THAT? YEAH, I MEAN IT JUST SEEMS LIKE TO ME THE SOONER WE CAN GET THAT CONVERTED, GET THAT UP GOING BETTER OFF WOULD BE WANT SOME TRAINING IN THERE TO START OFF WITH IT.
WHAT, WHAT'S Y'ALL'S THOUGHTS ABOUT DOING THAT? WE MIGHT HAVE TO COME BACK AND DO A, MY ONLY CONCERN FOR THAT IS I HAVE A PART-TIME EMPLOYEE THAT I DON'T KNOW IS WILLING TO GO FULL TIME AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE HER ANNUAL NOTICE IF THAT'S SITUATION.
WELL, DO YOU WANT WAIT JUST TILL NEXT YEAR AND START IT OCTOBER 1ST? I MEAN, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE ONE TOMORROW.
BUT I JUST WOULD LIKE TO GIVE HER PLAN NOTICE.
MAYBE NOT, I MEAN I CAN MAYBE START IT BEFORE OCTOBER BUT NOT LIKE TOMORROW.
BECAUSE I DON'T DUNNO THAT SHE WANTS TO GO FULLTIME.
WELL I WOULD JUST, ALL I WAS TRYING TO DO IS THINKING IF IT NEEDS TO BE DONE, WHY WAIT DO THE TRANSITION.
BUT I UNDERSTAND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, CONSEQUENCES FOR DOING THAT.
THAT WOULD'VE ELIMINATED BY PART-TIME SOONER.
UH, I THINK RIGHT NOW KAY IS DOING THE INSURANCE AND THAT.
KAREN COULD THE PART-TIME PERSON YOU HAVE NOW START DOING THAT.
I TRY
OKAY, WELL THING YOU AND KAREN GET TOGETHER AND IT MAY BE THAT YOU MAY NOT DO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT FOR THE REST OF THIS YEAR, BUT STARTED IT UP AS OF OCTOBER APPROACH.
IF THAT WOULD HELP, YOU KNOW, IN THE TRANSITION Y'ALL CAN MAKE IT WORK.
MAKE SURE THAT STUFF'S GETTING TAKEN CARE OF.
SO I'LL LET THE TWO OF YOU WORK THAT OUT.
SO WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA CREATE A NEW POSITION AND WHAT, HOW ARE WE LOOKING AT, I THINK FOR POSITION, I THINK FOR THE TIME BEING LET'S UH, UH, LET'S PUT IT IN AT, AT WHAT SOME OF THE, LIKE I THINK THERE'S IN THE UH, CLERK'S OFFICE, THERE'S SOME OF THOSE LADIES THAT HAVE BEEN THERE THREE, FOUR YEARS THAT ARE MAKING 26 180 5 OR 26, 6 85 FOR THE REST OF THIS YEAR.
AND THEN WHATEVER WE DEPEND ON NEXT YEAR, 6 9 86 LET'S, I KIND OF DISAGREE WITH THEM JUST BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE.
WHAT KIND OF BUILDING THEY HAVE, WHAT THEY SHOULD BE GETTING PAID, NOT BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR FIVE YEARS.
I MEAN I'VE GOT PEOPLE THAT WORK IN BRIDGE STUFF THAT BEEN THERE FOR 10 YEARS.
SOMEBODY KNOWS THREE TIMES AS MUCH AND TALKING ABOUT DO THE BIG THING.
SO JUST TO THOUGHT I'M NOT, I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH UNDERSTAND.
WELL I MEAN I CAN ARGUE BOTH WAYS.
I THINK LET'S LOOK AT THAT RAY AND IF THERE'S SOME LEVERAGE AND DOING SOMETHING AND WE ALL SIT DOWN AND GO THROUGH THIS, THEN WE CAN MAYBE BUMP IT UP.
WE'LL KIND OF LOOK AT ALL AS WE FINALIZE.
THAT WOULD BE JUST, IT DOESN'T GIVE UH, HER ENOUGH TIME FOR HER AND UH, THE AUDITOR TO GET TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT THE DS AND BECAUSE THEN SHE'S GOT A SHEET WITH DS THAT SHE CAN TALK ABOUT JUST LIKE WE BRING US, RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, BRING US THE DUTIES, LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO.
YEAH, THE REASON I THREW OUT THAT WAS THAT WOULD JUST BE FOR THE NEXT, WHAT, FIVE MONTHS I GUESS POTENTIALLY GO TO POTENTIALLY GO UP 30 OR THIS GIVES US SOMEPLACE WHERE WE CAN GO OTHERWISE DISAGREE WITH THE COMPARISON OF WHAT, WHAT OFFICES WE'RE COMPARING.
COMPARING THIS OFFICE TO, I MEAN I THREE ELECTED OFFICIALS
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OFFICES, WHAT I ELECTED.I'M SORRY ON THE OTHER DEPUTY THAT SHE'S GOTTA REQUEST THAT WE'RE GONNA LEAVE THAT SAME YEAH, THE OVERALL PICTURE AND AS WELL.
UH UH, LARRY WAS ABLE TO COME ON OVER A LITTLE EARLIER SO UH, LARRY, COME ON UP TO THE HOT SEAT HERE IF YOU WOULD.
RIGHT IN THESE CROWD MARY, I BELIEVE YOU, YOU START AT THE TOP SO IT'S SHOWING A LARGE NUMBER BUT IT'S BECAUSE YOU REMEMBER LAST YEAR SEVEN AND THEN IT WAS EXTRA US.
THAT TECHNICALLY HASN'T CAME OUT THERE UNTIL DURING THIS BUDGET.
IT WAS AGREED REMOVED BUT IT HASN'T.
SO YOU'LL HAVE THAT COMING OUT THERE.
WE ALSO, ARE WE STILL FIVE ONE? NO SIR.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT 5 21? I MEAN LARRY'S NOT ASKED FOR ANY INCREASES AND UH, YOU AS OF APRIL.
YEAH I THINK OURS GONNA RUN COMPLETELY YEARS AGO.
REMEMBER WE SOME FUEL MONEY OUT TO SUPPLEMENT THAT WE'RE UH OKAY, THANK YOU.
WE'VE DONE BUDGET 13 AND WE'RE SITTING 64, 79 FOR YEAH, UNFORTUNATELY THIS COMING MONTH IS, THAT SHOULD BE STANDARD.
OF COURSE WE'RE STILL BRINGING IN PERMIT FEES.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S A WHOLE LOT JUST SO YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF FOSTER CARE PERMITS COMING IN INTO OUR COUNTY.
SEEMS LIKE EVERY WEEK THERE'S STILL MORE PEOPLE FOSTER CARE MONEY OUTTA.
IT JUST CONTINUES TO REALLY GROW IN S YOU HAVE TO INSPECT PEOPLE HOME ALL THE OF TEXAS REQUIRE SOME SORT OF INFECTION FROM AND YOU SOME PRETTY LARGE COMMERCIAL.
ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON 5 21? YEAH, MILEAGE LICENSE THERE BY SUPPLEMENTING IT BACK OFF THE CAR CODE.
SAME WITH WE DID BOTH OF THOSE ON LINE ITEMS AND PUT SOME MONEY IN THERE OFF.
SO IF WE TO SUPPLEMENT THAT BEFORE END OF THE WEEK.
I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, I'M ONE OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT WE GO TO WHAT IS REQUIRED TRAINING BUT WE DON'T, I DON'T HAVE TIME PEOPLE JUST, SO MINE IS USUALLY LOW BECAUSE WE'RE JUST, WE'RE DOING MORE REQUIRED TO KEEP EVERYBODY CERTIFICATION THEN ON SPECIALTY ITEMS I'LL SEND, BUT I CAN SUPPLEMENT THAT.
WE COULD ACTUALLY ALWAYS USE MORE.
BUT ONCE AGAIN I ACTUALLY PUT IN SOME, I BELIEVE ON THAT TOO.
KAREN DID WE PUT SOME IN OFF OF THE FIRE CODE ALSO.
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GO THROUGH A LOT HEART RANDY GOES ME, EVERYBODY ELSE DOES.ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTION? NEXT FUND 3 48 AND IT'S THE FIRE CODE FUND THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.
AND THIS IS UH, WHERE YOU ACTUALLY HAVE THE REVENUE, UH, BELIEVE, DON'T YOU THERE THE ACTUAL IS BIGGER WAS SHOWING BALANCE IN 1 61.
LIKE I SAID, THAT'S BEFORE WE TAKE THIS YEAR.
WE AND IF YOU, IS THAT THE REVENUE? YES SIR.
OKAY, SO WE BUDGETED 42 2, WE HAD HUNDRED 42,000 OR ANOTHER 43.
YEAH, THAT'S UH, THE CARRYOVER.
AND WE'RE BUDGETING 42 5 THIS YEAR.
WE'VE UH, BROUGHT IN UH, 28 7 SO FAR.
SO WE MIGHT DROP THAT TWO DOWN.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT BRINGS US BACK TO THAT ONE.
YOU PROBABLY NEED TO DROP THAT BACK DOWN TO PROBABLY LIKE 33 MAYBE OR 35,000 JUDGE THIS YEAR.
OKAY, SO LET'S, THAT WOULD BE ON THE UH, DROP THE 42 5 DOWN TO 35.
33 AND THEN LET ME FIGURE WHAT HIS ESTIMATED BALANCE CARRY OVER WILL BE 24.
YEAH AND WE WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED THAT.
JUST THAT I THOUGHT WAS 23,000 FOR FOUR DRIVE.
THAT'S KIND OF POWER WINDOWS AND LOCKS AND EVERYTHING.
IT'S JUST, JUST SERVICE DIESEL IS GASOLINE.
HOW ARE YOU LIKING THE, THE FUEL.
AND THEN THE, ON THE EXPENSES ON THIS, YOU ANTICIPATE ANY CHANGES ON THIS? IN OTHER WORDS, ON THINGS THAT WE HAVE UP THERE TO SHOW THAT WE MIGHT USE AND SOME OF THOSE, YEAH, THOSE ARE JUST HARD TO GUESS BECAUSE A LOT OF THOSE ARE FILL IN WHEN YOU RUN OUT IN THE REGULAR BUDGET BECAUSE KEEP INCREASING REGULAR BUDGET.
SO YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE WE MAY NOT, MAY NOT TOUCH ALL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON FUND 3 49 WHICH IS CALLED THE FIRE CODE AND THEN LET'S TURN OVER TO FUND 6 49 WHICH IS ALSO CALLED FIRE CODE FUNDS.
SO COULD WE DELINEATE BETWEEN, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 2 3 300 SERIES IS REVENUE 600 SERIES IS YOUR EXPENDITURES, OKAY, SAME FUND JUST YES, SAME BUT ONE I CALL 3 49 AND THE OTHER ONE'S CALLED 6 49.
THAT'S THE WAY THE REVENUE SIDE IS SET UP.
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UH, REVENUES ARE IN THREE HUNDREDS AND EXPENSES ARE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THAT? I THINK LARRY, YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT REGARD? JUST TO REITERATE EVERYBODY ONE 60, TAKE 7 85 FOR THIS CURRENT YEAR THAT WE TO YEAR ABOUT 28 OR SO DOWN TO.AND ANY QUESTIONS? WELL I THING NEW EQUIPMENT YOU 30,000 BUDGET 15 ON 6 49.
YEAH, BUT HE'S GOT A NEW TRUCK.
IS THAT IN THE FIRE MARSHALS? THERE IS ONE LINE ITEM NOTICED THE FIRE MARSHALS.
1 49 MARSHALL NINE THE SHERIFF, THE FOUR CONSTABLES AND THE FIRE MARSHAL RECEIVED YEARLY ALLOTMENT FROM UH, THE STATE OF THAT MONEY.
SO WHICH LINE? IT'D BE THE LAST ONE DASH FIVE YEAR AND THIS IS WE GET FROM THE STATE? THAT'S CORRECT.
ALRIGHT AND THAT'S THE NEXT, OKAY.
UH, BEFORE UH, ANYBODY GOT ANY QUESTIONS REGARD ON BUDGET BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT THE ISSUE OF WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO AS FAR AS CONSOLIDATING THE PUBLIC AND UH, MARSHAL AND UH, MAYBE SOME OTHER OFFICES.
ONE THING BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT THAT, UH, HAVE YOU HAD ANY EMAILS BACK FROM JOHN LONG ABOUT THE USE OF THE COUNTY EQUIPMENT? UH, YEAH I THINK WE'RE GONNA BE FINE.
HE HAD ONE QUESTION ABOUT THAT LIABILITY CATER EQUIP IT.
PRETTY OBVIOUS BUT HE SAID IT WORK FINE.
ALREADY BEEN UTILIZED IN PASSED FOR THAT PURPOSE.
SO I THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET TO THAT BAG.
NOW THE TRAINING FOR THAT DRIVER OR THE OPERATOR, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S GOTTA BE DONE? YES, WHENEVER THE TIME COMES, WE'LL NEED TO PROBABLY SEND HOWEVER MANY OVER TO THE SERVICE.
SERVICE SET THAT UP I BELIEVE TOLD ME THERE WASN'T A CHARGE ON.
YOU'RE ASSUMING THAT THAT IS ALREADY AN OPERATOR OF THAT EQUIPMENT THAT YOU JUST HAVE? THE ONLY THING NEGATIVE I'VE HEARD ABOUT THAT IS I GUESS YOU GET INTO IT, YOU CUT A FENCE AND GO INTO ANYBODY'S PROPERTY.
PEOPLE MAD, THAT'S QUESTION FIRE DEPARTMENTS DO THAT ALL THE TIME, HAVE TO CUT FENCES TO GET INTO THE PROPERTY.
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SOME OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS, IN FACT MY OWN CREWS ACTUALLY HAVE ALL THE TOOLS AND SUPPLIES AND THE STRETCHER AND EVERYTHING FOR PURPOSE AND IF WE'RE OUT TRY WE HAVE TIME TO PULL IT BACK UP AND FIX IT.AND I THINK AT THE VERY LEAST THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD WANNA DO IS JUST HAVE THOSE TOOLS.
LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE THEM, YOU KNOW, SO FIRE DEPARTMENT'S ACTUALLY YOU GOTTA INTO SOMETHING IT BURGLARY YOU HAVE TO INTO OR KICK SOMEBODY'S DOOR IN TO GET INSIDE SOMEBODY THAT LIABILITY ANYWAY.
SO, BUT I'VE GOT ALL THOSE QUESTIONS IN JOHN OPPORTUNITY TO COMPLETELY ANSWER ME, BUT HE'S LEADING ME TO BELIEVE THAT WE'LL ON THAT IT'S GONNA BE REQUIRED OFF THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS OR WHATEVER BECAUSE UH, GONNA HAVE TO HAVE THE MASK AND ALL THE PERSONAL EQUIPMENT FOR OUT THERE.
I THINK WHAT HAPPENED, WEST TEXAS KILLED OUT, KILLED BY THE FIRE.
THINK WAS ACTUALLY KILLED BY A VEHICLE WOULD RUN OVER.
YEAH, I REMEMBER ANOTHER FIRE.
I'M NOT PUT MY GUYS OUT THERE FIRE BECAUSE THAT WAS, WE DID IT.
WE TRIED ONE TIME WENT EVERY TIME I, YOU GUYS GET BACK UNTIL SOMEBODY TELLS YOU WHAT TO DO.
I SURE IT IS THIN LINE AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT EVEN THOUGH THAT I I AGREE IN IN PARK IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE THAT READILY AVAILABLE BECAUSE I NEVER KNOW WHEN I'M GONNA GET THE SERVICE OR EVEN IF I'M SERVICE FIRE SEASON THEY'RE GONE.
I MAY GIVE ONE MAY COME OUT IT MAY BE FOUR HOURS LATER BUT AT THE SAME TIME ARCH SERVICE REALLY DOESN'T LIKE FOR COUNTIES TO GET INVOLVED IN THINGS LIKE THAT.
MY SUPERVISOR T HE'S ACTUALLY USED THAT DO ON FIRE WEST TEXAS PRETTY FOR T.
YEAH I TELL YOU WHAT I 2020 HOUR WILD LAND FIREFIGHTERS COURSE LAST YEAR AND UH, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, I DON'T WANT NO PART IN NO BULLDOG IN NO FOREST FIRE.
I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THAT THEY SHOW YOU SOME STUFF AND SITTING IN THAT CLASS YOU CAN LOSE YOUR LIFE THAT FAST ON A BULLET.
I GUARANTEE YOU CAN GET RUN OVERRUN JUST LIKE THAT.
AND I'VE RUN A LOT OVER WELL LIFETIME AND YOU JOE GET BEAT UP TRAINING.
I TELL AND I TELL YOU WHAT, IF YOU'RE NOT TRAINED ALL THE TIME THAT BULLET OVER, YOU'RE HANGING OUT THERE.
YOU SAY OH YOU CAN GO OUT THERE AND TAKE A TO ACK OUT GRASS FIRE OR SOMETHING.
LEMME TELL YOU WHAT, YOU LITTLE CLASS UP THERE, RIGHT? WELL I TELL YOU WHAT, ANY COUNTY EMPLOYEE THAT THAT RUNS IT.
WELL OF COURSE LIKE I SAID, THE PARTS SERVICE DON'T WANT THEY DO IT PROFESSIONALLY AND WE'RE NOT GONNA BE TO THAT LEVEL EVER.
BUT THERE ARE TIMES IT WOULD CERTAINLY HELP TO GET SOMETHING CASE SCENARIO THAT'S KIND OF LIKE IT.
CAMP HAD THAT FIRE, RICHARD CUOMO BOUGHT HIS DOZER OUT THERE AND WE BREAKING IT OVER TO PULL THE HOSE LOOSE AND RUN ALL THE OIL OUT.
HE DIDN'T KNOW IF HE WAS GONNA LOSE HIS DOZER OR NOT.
I MEAN HE HUNG A ROOF, BUSTED A HOSE AND HE'S EXPERIENCED OPERATOR OR NOT.
IT'S BUSTED A HOSE AND HAD JUMP OFF THE DOZER AND LEAVE THE JUST LUCKY GUYS WERE ABLE RIGHT TO SQUARE PUMP UP PACKS KEEP FIRE BURNING IT UP.
SO, WELL I'LL GET Y'ALL ANSWER FROM JOHN AND Y'ALL CAN SIT DOWN ANSWER.
I DON'T KNOW, I NEVER ASKED HIM THAT QUESTION.
I MEAN HE WAS ON IT FOR MANY, MANY HOURS HE SHOT.
YEAH THAT PARTICULAR VISOR SAID HE WENT GO TO SCHOOL SO.
WELL THAT'S OBVIOUSLY THE KEY TO IT.
YEAH, EQUIPMENT, LIKE I SAY WHAT WE DONE OVER THERE SI CORN
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IS WE'LL FURNISH EQUIPMENT WE GET AWAY FROM, WE'LL DELIVER IT TO THEM.THEY'VE GOT THE OXYGEN MASK AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
WELL THE HAS A CAB AND EVERYTHING BUT STEEL, YOU KNOW, BE PREPARED FOR THE YOU.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE BUDGET FOR LARRY? UH, I KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE COMBINE OF THE COMBINING OF UH, THE PUBLIC DEPARTMENT, THE FIRE MARSHAL, THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR, TWO, THREE GROUPS OUT THERE AND THE UH, I KNOW THEY'RE VERSION MOST AND I THINK THE LAST EMAIL I RECEIVED, JUST BACK OFF EVERYBODY.
YEAH, I THINK Y'ALL NEED TO DECIDE WHAT NEEDS TO GO WHERE.
I MEAN I REALLY DUNNO A LOT ABOUT MORE ONE PLACE.
MAYBE IT DOESN'T, I DUNNO SHE WAS WANTING TO GO TO ONE, BUT I POSSIBILITY IT BE DIVIDED INTO OTHER AREAS AND BE BETTER GONNA TAKE A, IF IT SHOULD BE WILLING TO TAKE WHATEVER PART OF IT THAT YOU WANNA TRY TO DO NOW TIME DO IT.
I THINK DUE TO IS, YOU KNOW, RETIRING, I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY LOOK AT IT AND SEE IF THERE'S SOME COST SAVINGS.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE PRIMARY THING.
I KNOW WHEN SHE AND I TALKED LIKE MAYBE THERE WAS SOME REQUEST ON ON HER SIDE THAT MORE MORE MONEY OR, SO THAT'S SOMETHING Y'ALL NEED TO, LIKE I SAID, I'M JUST NOT A PERSON.
THINK WE GET INTO THAT, THE MAPPING, THE 9 1 1 MAPPING AND THE GIS STUFF.
YOU GOT SEVERAL AREAS THAT THAT MIGHT BETTER FIT IN.
YEAH, WE TALKED GET THOSE PEOPLE IN HERE THAT THEY MIGHT BETTER FIT AND GET THEM TO EXPLAIN WHY THEY SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T.
AND I, LIKE I SAY, I'VE HEARD JUST IN FO COMMENTS AND SOME NOT SO IN UNFOLD, BUT, UH, THE IDEAS ABOUT HOW TO WORK BETTER, BUT I I I THINK WE JUST TRY TO GET THE EMOTION OUT OF IT SURE.
AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, HOW IT WOULD BE THE BEST WAY FOR IT TO WORK AND THEN WHAT COST SAVINGS WITH C SO AND SO ANYWAY.
I GUESS MY POINT TODAY IS I'LL, I'LL TRY TO HELP WHATEVER WAY I CAN, WHETHER IT BE ANY OR A LOT.
AND OF COURSE I KNOW WE TALKED ONE TIME ABOUT THE, UH, FACT I BROUGHT TIME YES.
THAT TO HAPPEN OR I, I THINK THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
I THINK THEY NEED, I THINK IT WOULD GREAT BE A GREAT FIT.
WE USED TO WORK TOGETHER BECAUSE WE JUST HAVE TO CALL AND THEY CALL US.
BUT I THINK WE, I REALLY BELIEVE WE COULD DO SOME CLEAN UP HERE, GET SOME STUFF RIGHT.
I THINK THAT THAT'S WHERE THEY WERE AT ONE TIME.
AND SO I REALLY BELIEVE THAT'S GOOD.
IT'S TOO, AND LIKE I TOLD YOU ONE TIME BEFORE THE SEPTIC, IT MAY SOUNDS STRANGE, THE SEPTIC INSPECTION, WE ACTUALLY ENVIRONMENTAL FUNCTION.
SO A LOT OF TIMES KIM HAS TO DRAW FOR ENVIRONMENTAL GUYS TO MAKE A TRIPLET, DON'T WANNA ON SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY AND TAKE A CHANCE GETTING SHOT, SOMEBODY SHOOTING BACK.
SO
BUT WHEN YOU GET INTO THOSE AREAS BETTER SOMEWHERE, THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL NEED TO LOOK AT THE BEST PLACE FOR THE BEST.
SO I'M OPEN TO WHATEVER, WHEN THE TIME COMES, UH, I STILL HAVE THOSE THAT WE Y'ALL HAVE OR I EXPECT WHAT WE'LL DO ON THAT, LET US GET THROUGH BUDGET DAY.
WE'LL COME BACK TOGETHER AND SIT DOWN, KIND OF HAVE A GENERAL IDEA ABOUT WHERE WE WANNA AND TRY TO PROCEED ALONG DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT YOU NEED TO TALK TO, TO DISCUSS THIS.
SAY WHERE DOES IT NEED TO REALLY FIT? YEAH.
I AGREE TOTALLY BECAUSE EVERYBODY COURSE OF COURSE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION TO MAKE IT WORK, BUT I MEAN IT'S, EVERYBODY'S GOT TERRITORY.
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SO I'LL TRY TO HELP GARY, I I CAN'T ANSWER EITHER AT THE, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WOULD REALLY BENEFIT THE CITIZENS, YOU KNOW, AND THE IDEA OF THE MAPPING GO TO ID IT DEPARTMENT, WE CAN CONTINUE TO EXPAND, GROW, WHATEVER.SO THAT'S, I WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO RUN IT BY NUMEROUS AND I UNDERSTAND WHATEVER WE COME UP WITH, BUT I MEAN IT'S WHATEVER WORKS BEST FOR THE COUNTY.
I THINK RIGHT NOW, WHILE WE'RE DOING THE BUDGET, WE HAVE KATHY AND YOU AND ABSOLUTELY POSSIBLY GET THIS LAID OUT ON THE TABLE THAT WE CAN DO SOME GOOD, UH, YOU KNOW, OF THAT OFFICE, MAKE IT REALLY FOR THE COUNTY A LITTLE MORE.
AND GEORGE, EVERYBODY, I THINK WE NEED ALL STAKEHOLDERS KNOW.
SO GET TALK ABOUT, I'M KIND OF OUTTA THE LOOP ON, YOU KNOW, SO AS SOON AS GEORGE OPENED HIS MOUTH, I'M HAPPY.
WELL, YEAH, BUT I MEAN, EVEN ON THOSE THAT TALK
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR LARRY? NO.
UH, Y'ALL ALSO HAVE THAT FACILITY THING ONE, WE TALKED AROUND DO THAT ONE OUTTA TOWN CAME EARLY.
WELL, WE APPRECIATE YOU MOVING UP TO SCHEDULE.
EVERYBODY'S BEEN, UH, VERY COOPERATIVE IN GET THEIR BUDGET IN.
AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE MOVING ALONG LITTLE.
OKAY, NEXT, I THINK WE'VE GOT, UH, SEAN IS OUT THERE.
JOHN, I WHETHER YOU GOT A COPY OF, UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE ASKED KAREN A FEW DAYS AGO, PUT IT TOGETHER AND, UH, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY, PRETTY SELF-EXPLANATORY.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE FIRST, FIRST PAGE OF THIS, UH, THIS SHOWS, THIS IS THE THING ONLY WITH REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES BY THE CONSTABLES OFFICE.
WE'LL EXPLAIN THAT JUST A SECOND.
IF YOU LOOK DOWN AT THE VERY BOTTOM, UH, FUNDING YEAR 2012, THAT WAS TWO YEARS AGO.
ANOTHER COLUMN FUNDED YEAR 2013, THAT'S LAST YEAR.
AND THEN AT THE TOP WHERE IT SAYS FUNDING YEAR 2014, THAT'S THROUGH APRIL THE FIRST OF THIS YEAR.
SO IT'S A MONTH BY, BUT FOR EXAMPLE, YOU'LL GO DOWN TO 12.
YOU LOOK ON THE REVENUES THAT, UH, CONSTABLE PRECINCT ONE GENERATED THAT 38,190.
IF YOU LOOK AT, UH, FUNDING YEAR, UH, 2013, UH, IT'S UP, UH, 38,000 8 31 AND THOSE.
AND THEN LOOK THROUGH, UH, VERY TOP THIS YEAR.
IT'S ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH IT.
AND THEN THE RIGHT HAND SIDE WHERE IT SAYS EXPENDITURES, IT SHOWS WHAT THE EXTENT EXPENDITURES ARE, UH, PER CONSTABLE'S OFFICE.
AND SO YOU KIND OF TRACK, AND AGAIN, YOU CAN LOOK, UH, DOWN, UH, THAT BOTTOM TWO YEARS AGO THEN 13TH LAST YEAR.
AND, UH, THIS YEAR WOULD BE A HALF YEAR THROUGH APRIL 30TH.
AND KAREN EXPLAINED ONCE AGAIN WHAT THOSE, HOW WE ESTIMATED THE REVENUE BECAUSE IT, THAT'S WHERE IT BECOMES A LITTLE, A LITTLE CLOUDY.
AND SHE'LL WANNA ASK HER TO EXPLAIN IT AGAIN HOW THAT SHE, WHEN Y'ALL TURN IN REVENUE, CAROL RECEIPTS
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IT AND SHE'LL PUT WHICH CONSTABLE PRECINCT IT IS.THEN THE OTHER REPORTS THAT ARE LIKE THROUGH THE COUNTY CLERK AND THE DISTRICT CLERK, WE HAVE NO IDEA.
SO WE TOOK THAT YEARS AND DIVIDED IT BY THE FOUR EVENLY BECAUSE WE COULDN'T TELL WHO WAS ONE WHO WAS THREE AROUND.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE CAN GET THOSE NUMBERS TOGETHER.
AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO NEXT YEAR, UH, KAREN'S GONNA WORK WITH, UH, LAURA ABOUT, UH, TRYING TO BETTER, UH, ACCOUNT REVENUE.
SO WE'LL HAVE, UH, BETTER A BETTER IDEA ABOUT THAT.
NOW IF YOU TURN TO THE SECOND PAGE, THIS IS THE JP REVENUE AND IT SAME FORMAT EXCEPT THIS IS, THIS IS THE EXACT NUMBERS.
AND IF YOU LOOK DOWN AT JP, UH, ONE, OR IT STARTED AT THE BOTTOM OF FUNDING YEAR 2012, UH, THERE WAS $144,000 WORTH OF REVENUE GENERATED.
UH, THE COURT ACTUALLY COST 193,000.
UH, AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT 2013, UH, THE JP GENERATED IN PRECINCT 163, BUT THE OPERATION OF THE COURT WAS 196,000.
AND THEN IF YOU LOOK THIS YEAR, UH, THROUGH APRIL AGAIN, UH, THE JP SO FAR GENERATED 62,000 AND, UH, EXPENSES THROUGH APRIL ARE HUNDRED 4,000.
NOW, I KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN QUITE A FEW CHANGES MADE IN THE LAST THREE MONTHS, WHICH IS PROBABLY GOING, UH, MUCH BETTER IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS OF THIS YEAR.
BUT SINCE THE CONSTABLES AND THE JPS, Y'ALL WORKED HAND IN HAND, WHAT WE DID, WE TOOK THE, UH, WHAT SHE DID, SHE TOOK THE FIRST TWO PAGES AND COMBINED, AND YOU LOOK DOWN AT 2012, UH, WE SPENT IN, UH, THE CONSTABLE AND JP, WE SPENT 182,000.
WE, WE HAD REVENUE 182,000 AND WE SPENT 340,000.
AND THEN, UH, LAST YEAR THE REVENUE WENT UP TO ABOUT 20,000 TO 200, 2000.
UH, AND THE, THE, UH, EXPENSES WENT DOWN, UH, TO 313,000, BUT WE WERE STILL IN THE HOLE.
AND THEN THROUGH THIS YEAR, THROUGH THE END OF APRIL, WE'RE AT 80,000 AS COMPARED TO, UH, 173,000 IN EXPENSES.
SO, UH, DIDN'T DO THIS FOR ANY PARTICULAR PURPOSE OTHER THAN JUST TO PUT IT OUT THERE.
I MEAN, THESE ARE THE FACTS AND UH, SO I I DIDN'T HAVE THE OBJECTION.
SO YOU'LL A COPY OF IT AND THEN ON YOUR, UH, BUDGET, WHICH, UH, WE, UH, HAVE, HAVE LOOKED AT, UH, I THINK YOU, UH, WERE ANTICIPATING A SUGGESTED A $6,400 INCREASE, I BELIEVE IN, UH, YOUR, UH, SALARY.
LEMME KIND OF GIVE YOU WHERE I'M COMING FROM ON THAT AND I'LL GO AHEAD.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE OTHER THREE ARE GONNA BE ON BOARD.
I KNOW THEY, WE TALKED ABOUT IT.
YOU'LL HAVE TO BRING IT UP SO I'LL DO IT.
UM, I'VE SET, AND SO WELL ALL THE CONSTABLES HAVE, WE'VE SET IN THAT DEPUTY SHERIFF SEAT ON THE TRUCK, WE'VE SET IN THOSE DEPUTY CONSTABLE SEATS AND WE'VE SET THE CONSTABLE SEATS.
AND WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT IS DONE, WHEN I WAS DEPUTY SHERIFF, I WAS ON PATROL.
I WENT FROM CALL TO CALL, CALL DID MY REPORT, TURNED IT IN, DID MY FOUR 12 SHIFTS.
I WAS OVERDONE AS DEPUTY CONSTABLE.
AND THEN AS CONSTABLE, WHEN WE GOT SOMETHING, WE STARTED AND WE FINISH IT ALL THE WAY THROUGH, MUCH LIKE A, A, UH, LIEUTENANT NOT DO OUT THE JAIL OR THE SHERIFF'S DEPART.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAD TO HAVE LICENSES VERSUS, AND I, WHAT I BUMPED THAT UP TO WAS JP SALARY BASE SALARY.
BUT IF THEY'RE HOLDING COURT, WE'RE BAILIN PROVIDING SECURITY.
IF THEY SIGN A PAPER THAT HAS TO BE SERVED, WE'RE THE ONES OUT THERE MAKING ALL THE ATTEMPT SERVING.
I MEAN THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT'S DONE FROM
AND THAT'S WHY I TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, LIKE I TOLD YOU LAST YEAR, I'M NOT GONNA COME HERE AND ASK FOR THE WORLD.
I'M JUST LIKE, LIKE WHAT? SPARE? AND I MEAN, IF YOU GOT TWO HANDS OUT THERE WORKING, DOING THE SAME JOBS, THEY SHOULDN'T BE PAID THE SAME
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AS WELL AS THE DEAD POSITION.BECAUSE I'VE, I'VE GOT, LIKE I SAID, YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE OUT THERE AT THE JAIL LIEUTENANTS THAT ARE MAKING WHAT I MAKE AND THEY DO THEIR FOUR WELLS AND THEY'RE OVER AND DONE.
AND I'M DOING THIS SEVEN DAYS A WEEK AND I DO REALIZE THAT I RAN COURT AND GOT INTO THIS, BUT YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT IT'S GOING HAVE THE, IS GONNA HAVE TO BALANCE OUT.
AND UH, ON THE OFFICE SUPPLY YOU'RE LOOKING AT A $600 DECREASE AND A 375 DECREASE ON PARTS AND REPAIRS.
A 600 DECREASE IN MILEAGE MILL AND LODGING, AND THEN A SEVEN 10 DECREASE ON, UH, NEW EQUIPMENT.
SOME OF THOSE THAT I DECREASED ON WERE THE ONES THAT I INCREASED LAST YEAR.
SOME OF THOSE ITEMS I COULD GET IN THE BULK LAST ME TWO, THREE YEARS.
SO THERE'S NO NEED IN KEEPING IT AT THAT HIGHER DOLLAR.
NOW, WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AT THIS POINT IN TIME ON SALARIES, EXCEPT IN FEW INSTANCES WE'RE WE'RE GOING AND I THINK COURT, I KNOW I WOULD, I BELIEVE THE COURT WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME SORT OF AN OVERALL PAY INCREASE FOR EMPLOYEES.
AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE ELECTED OFFICIALS IN MY OPINION, IF THEY CHOOSE TO ACCEPT IT.
UH, BUT UH, I'M NOT, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT AMOUNT'S GOING TO BE YET.
WE GET A LITTLE DEEPER INTO THE BUDGET, FIND OUT HOW OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR PROPERTY VALUES ARE COMING IN AND SOME OF OUR REVENUE THAT UH, WE ANTICIPATING WE GONNA BE ON THAT IT'S KIND OF HARD FOR US TO COMMIT PERMANENTLY TO ANY, I MEAN TODAY AT LEAST ANY KIND OF A SALARY INCREASE.
UH, SO GENTLEMEN, ANYBODY HAVE ANY ADD TO THAT? WELL, ONE THING I DO AGREE WITH IS ON THE DEPUTIES, UH, DEPUTY CONSTABLES, YOU KNOW, MAKING LESS SOMEONE COMPARABLE AT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
THAT ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT IS ONE OF THE LOWER PAYING ELECTED POSITIONS AND CONSTABLE DO HAVE A BIG DUE.
AND IF WE COULDN'T DO IT ALL THIS YEAR, IF WE WERE ABLE TO DO SOME, I'D RATHER DEPUTY TAKE PERSON COMMEND SEAN, THAT'S COMMENDABLE.
DO YOU HAVE A LIST OF THE NEW EQUIPMENT? 'CAUSE LAST YEAR YOU SUPPLIED A LIST OF EVERYTHING YOU UM, NO I DIDN'T THIS YEAR AND THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME UP.
SO WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY GET TO GO.
I KNOW YOU WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
I DIDN'T WANTED TO SEE IT
SO I HAVEN'T REALLY HAD A CHANCE TO DO AN ITEMIZED LIST, BUT, AND I KNOW WE MAY END UP HAVING FIND ANOTHER CAMERA IS ALL WE HAD LEFT FOR THAT OLD, THAT CROWN TWO OLD V HS.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE THOSE COME ON PRECINCT TO YOU? I THINK IT WORKS.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF OUR CAMERAS WORK.
SEAN, I SEE YOU GOT, YOU JUST GOT $500 IN FOR YOUR AMMUNITION BUDGET.
Y'ALL QUALIFY AND STILL HAVE AMMUNITION LEFT FOR SERVICE.
ON 500 I OFFICE, UH, JUDGE IN UNIVERSITY ON HER PRESENTATION AND, UH, UH, TALKED ABOUT THE, UH, OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU MIGHT SEIZE AS BEING, UH, ONE OF THE COMMERCIAL VEHICLE AT YOUR, UH, TRAINED.
AND I THINK WE HAVE A SET OF SCALES THAT HAVE BEEN TURNED IN BACK DOWN AT PRECINCT FOUR THAT ARE USUAL.
AND UH, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU WERE WILLING TO DO THAT FROM WHAT SHE TOLD US THAT, UH, WE'D LIKE TO DO THAT.
WELL IT, IT WOULD, THE, IT WOULD'VE TO BE A, I KNOW THE SHERIFF HAD A SPOT THAT GAMON
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JUST LEFT AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT BRIAN'S WANTING TO DO WITH HIS END.I'M NOT GONNA SPEAK FOR IT, BUT WHAT, WHAT HE'S TOLD ME IS, IS THAT HE WANTS TO CONTINUE DOING THE, UH, UH, CLEAN AIR STUFF, THE AUTO EMISSION, YOU KNOW, THE STICKERS OF STICKERS AND HE, HE WANTS TO CONTINUE DOING THAT.
IS THAT WHAT HE'S INDICATED? YOU KNOW, I I HADN'T SPOKE TO HIM, UH, DIRECTLY.
I TALKED TO HIM ON THE PHONE A LITTLE BIT AND I ASKED HIM, I SAID, WELL, ARE YOU UH, GONNA LET THE COMMERCIAL VEHICLE DEAL GO? AND UH, HE INDICATED TO ME THAT HE WAS LOOKING FOR AN OFFICER THAT HE DIDN'T HAVE TO MICROMANAGE ALL THE TIME.
IF HE COULD GET SOMEBODY WHO WAS SELF-MOTIVATED, LIKE GAMBLING IS WHERE YOU COULD JUST TURN HIM LOOSE AND HE GOES OUT THERE AND DOES HIS JOB AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO CHECK ON HIM, YOU DON'T HAVE TO REFUSE TICKETS AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
HE INDICATED TO ME THAT HE'S STILL STILL ON BOARD FOR IT.
SO WELL THAT I GUESS IF IT'S GONNA TAKE THE RIGHT PERSON, BUT HE'S COMING IN THERE FOR LUNCH, WE CARE.
YEAH, IT'S KIND LIKE GAMBLING.
YOU LET HIM TELL YOU LUNCH, BUT YOU KNOW, HE WAS, HE WAS WANTING SOMEBODY.
I, WELL, AND WE DID FIND THAT, AND I THINK WE DISCUSSED THIS, THAT THE OFFICER WILL HAVE TO BE CARRIED UNDER THE SHERIFF'S UMBRELLA BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE LAW IS WRITTEN.
BUT I MEAN, THAT IS PART OF IT.
SO, SO BACK TO MY ORIGINAL QUESTION.
WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? IT WOULD, WE COULDN'T TAKE THE LOAD ON ME OR MY DEPUTY.
WE WOULD, WE WOULDN'T HAVE TIME IF WE DID IT, IT WOULD'VE TO BE A NEW POSITION OR IF THERE'S, SO YOU HAVE A DEPUTY AND YOURSELF MM-HMM
AND YOU HAVE, DO YOU HAVE ANY EXTRA HELP PART-TIME? UH, 20,000.
AND YOU SPENT 1642 AS OF THE END OF APRIL, IF WE, UH, FUNDED YOU AN ADDITIONAL DEPUTY, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO ELIMINATE THE UH, PART-TIME? YES SIR.
BUT GAMMON WAS PAID FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
HE WAS PAID OUT OF THE SHERIFF'S.
BUT SO IF, IF, IF WE, IF IF YOU HAD SOMEONE UNDER YOU LIKE HIM, THAT WOULD STILL COME OUTTA THE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT? YEAH, IT WOULD BUT IT WOULD SAVE 20,000 OUTTA HIS BUDGET.
WE COULD PULL THAT 20,000 OUTTA THE BUDGET.
THAT'S THAT'S WHAT OKAY, SO HE WOULDN'T NEED YOUR YOUR WE COULD STRIKE THAT OUT.
I MEAN THAT, JUST TRY TO HELP GET THE POSITION IN THERE.
SO ALL I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT, IS THERE SOMETHING YOU WANT TO DO IF YOU GET THE EXTRA HELP? OKAY.
AND THE TRAINING, I, I KNOW THAT'S AN ISSUE, RIGHT? UH, WE DO HAVE THE SET OF SCALE.
WHAT ABOUT THE VEHICLE? DO YOU HAVE TWO TAHOES GOT TWO TAHOES AND A GROUND VEHICLE.
WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO USE ONE OF THE TAHOES AS THE UH, UH, UH, WEIGHT VEHICLE WHEN THE VEHICLE COMES FROM FORD? NO SIR.
THAT'S CONSTABLE PRECINCT FORD VEHICLE.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GRANT FUND, BUT THEY WERE ALL, THEY WERE ALL, THAT'S, THAT'S THE PRETTY THING.
PAT, YOU GOT TWO TAHOES AND A CROWN AT IN.
WHAT KIND OF SHAPES IS HE? IT RUNS OKAY.
START, IT'LL START MOST OF THE TIME.
WELL WE'RE WE, I I, YOU KNOW, WE GOT LOTS OF PEOPLE WANT CARS, RIGHT? SO WE'RE NOT GONNA BE TO BUY EVERYTHING EVERYBODY.
AND I'D BE WILLING TO LOOK, SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING DECENT OUT THERE ON THE USED END, MAYBE IN A TAHOE OR PICKUP.
I THINK THE TAHOES WORK PRETTY GOOD ON THE, THE COMMERCIAL BECAUSE YOU GOTTA CARRY ALL THAT STUFF AND EVERYTHING.
SO, BUT THE RETURN ON THAT I THINK IS UH, YOU KNOW, PRETTY SIGNIFICANT I THINK TOO, AND IN MY CONVERSATION WITH YOU, WE'RE NOT GOING BE GOING OUT AND RIDING TICKETS FOR MINOR OFFENSES.
WE'RE GOING AFTER THE GUYS THAT TRULY IT'S ALL THE SAFETY VIOLATIONS.
TRULY DO DRIVE A PIECE OF JUNK DOWN ROADWAY A LITTLE BIT OVER, THEY GOT CAB BUS OUT, FIX IT.
SOMETHING THAT'S COULD GO DOWN THE ROAD AND GET SOMEBODY KILLED OR THEMSELVES OR WHATEVER.
THAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M INTERESTED IN.
NOT WE TROUBLE OUR NO THROUGH COMMERCIAL TRUCK ZONE.
THEY'RE STARTING TODAY, THAT 72 HOUR DOT DEAL.
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THROUGH THAT? I DON'T KNOW.I TOLD HIM KEEP EYE ON IT BECAUSE I FIGURED THAT THEY WILL BE WEARING OUT HIGH ROAD.
ACTUALLY I GUESS YOU COULD SEND SOMEBODY YEAH, BUT WE, WE COULD PATROL THAT WE JUST 'CAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO SCALE OR ANYTHING.
ALL THEY'RE DOING IS JUST TRYING TO AVOID DOG SCALE HIGHWAY 80.
BUT I THINK DPS PUT SOMEBODY ON HIGHWAY 80 OCCASIONALLY.
USUALLY ON 80, BUT THEY'RE NOT INTERESTED IN HIGHWAY.
THEY'RE, THEY DON'T GET ANYBODY OVER THERE.
I BUT WHEN THE LIEUTENANT CAME BY AND VISITED MAYOR OR WHOEVER THE GUY WAS THE OTHER DAY, I THINK THEY, THEY HAVE A PRETTY HEAVY FORCE DOWN THERE.
WHAT? I DEAD FOR SEVEN, TWO HOURS.
YEAH, SEVEN TWO CONTINUOUS HOURS.
SO, OKAY, SO IF WE WORK OUT THE, THE DETAILS YOU YOU'RE GOOD TO, GOOD TO GO.
OTHER QUESTIONS ON SEAN'S BUDGET OR DEALING WITH THIS UH, COMMERCIAL WEIGHT OFFICER TALKING
UH, HAVE YOU SEEN THAT THE CONTRACT ON THAT SAYS IT HAS TO BE PUT OUT EVERY TIME THE SCHOOL'S OPEN ON THE ATS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT? NOT NOT THE SCHOOL, BUT STOP ON CAMERA.
IF THEY'RE NOT PUT OUT, THEY WILL FIND YOU.
AND ARE YOU CAPABLE OF PUTTING, PUTTING THOSE OUT, TAKE THEM UP? WHO'S GONNA BE DOING THAT? WELL THAT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS AND UH, I'VE TALKED TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THEY'RE WILLING TO TAKE CHARGE OF THAT BUT THERE'S STILL SOME, THE DETAILS ARE STILL IN THE MIX.
UH, AND SO I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT WHAT WILL TAKE PLACE ON THAT'S BUT THE SHERIFF DIDN'T HIS STAFF COMMITTED TO DOING THAT.
WELL AND THAT MAY BE WHERE THE INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT HAVE A POLICE FORCE MIGHT BE WILLING TO DO IT IF THEY GOT MAYBE TEXT DOWN THE REVENUE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO HELP.
BUT THAT'S, THAT'S BEING DISCUSSED.
I THINK THIS OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS TO SEE WHERE THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
I'LL AS SOON AS IT GETS NAILED DOWN I'LL GIVE HER DETAILS BUT IT'S JUST NOT THAT POINT.
SO BACK ON VEHICLES, YOU COULD USE A VEHICLE BUT YOU COULD ALSO GET BY AT LEAST A YEAR WITHOUT, IF YOU WORDS OUT WOULD YOU GET ANOTHER NAME WOULD GREAT.
BUT IF I CAN GET DEAL THAT PICK UP OR A TAHOE THAT'S PROVIDING YOU TAKE ON THE EXTRA RIGHT.
COMMERCIAL VEHICLE WITHOUT THAT YOU'VE GOT THE TWO TAHOES THAT WERE NEW LAST YEAR BACK UP FOR THE PART-TIME.
DOES YOUR PART-TIME GUYS TAKE ONE OF THE TAHOES IF HE WORKS A WEEKEND OR SOMETHING? YEAH, BECAUSE OF THE CAMERA ISSUE.
I JUST LET HIM USE THAT ONE TO GET TO AND FROM AND UH, HE GETS MY TAHOE AND IT COMES OUT.
JUST GOT THE CAMERA SYSTEM IN IT.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR EFFICIENCY.
AND UH, I APPRECIATE YOU WORKING WITH JUDGE MARTIN.
SHE IS, UH, WORKING ON THAT TICKET RIDER THING AND IT IS VERY CLEARLY IN THE LAW THAT SHE CAN USE SOME OF THE TECHNOLOGY MONEY FOR THAT.
YOU MIGHT WANNA EXPLAIN THAT JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS.
DO YOU KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT IT TO EXPLAIN IT? UH, ABOUT THE THE TICKET DRIVER? THE TICKET RIDER? YEAH.
DANIEL'S DONE MOST OF THE RESEARCH ON THAT.
UM, BUT IT, IT'S, THEY CUTS DOWN YOUR TIME ON TRAFFIC STOPS.
YOU JUST SWIPE THEIR DRIVER'S LICENSE, IT'S GOING TO PRINT OUT THE CITATION.
AND ANOTHER THING THAT, UH, DPS WENT TO IT THIS YEAR THAT CUTS DOWN ON TIME.
IT PUTS YOUR ACTUAL COMPLAINT ON THE BOTTOM OF THE CITATION.
SO WHEN IT'S ALL TURNED IN, IT'S DONE.
UH, BECAUSE I HAVE A LOT OF PAPERWORK THAT THE JP BECAUSE A LOT OF PAPERWORK, UH, A LOT OF CASES THAT WERE GETTING DROPPED BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE WRITTEN COMPLAINT IN THERE FROM AN OFFICER AND UH, SO WE WERE LOSING THAT LOT OF MONEY THERE AND UH, THE, THE ONES THAT WE HAVE FOUND ARE, SO IT SHOULD DONE RIGHT IN OUR COMPUTER SHIFT.
MARY HAS DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH ON THAT AND SHE'S PRETTY CONVINCED THAT IT'S UH, THE WAY TO GO.
PLUS IT CAN BE CAN, I MEAN IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS IN THE STATUTE THAT IT CAN BE USED FOR OUT OF THE JP TECHNOLOGY FUND.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE PURCHASED OUTTA THAT JUST MAKES INSTEAD OF BEING 10 MINUTES ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD RIGHT.
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SOMEBODY YOU'RE PROBABLY FIVE MINUTES OUT.WELL WHY WOULDN'T ALL THE CONSTABLES, WHY WOULDN'T THEY USE? I THINK THEY WILL.
I THINK THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALL LOOK AT.
I I THINK THEY, THEY'LL, YOU KNOW, DO YOU KNOW ANY KIND OF COST FACTOR ON IT? NO.
DID SHE TELL YOU ANYTHING? NO.
UM, I KNOW JACKIE, YOU'VE LOOKED AT THIS.
I THINK I HAVE LOOKED AT THE LATEST ONE.
YOU KNOW, WE DID IT BEFORE, LIKE WE MENTIONED A YEAR OR SO AGO.
COPS SAKE WHERE IT WAS CORRECT.
SO I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OF THAT INFORMATION.
DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A, A PRINTER HOOK UP IN YOUR, UH, TAHOE TO PRINT OUT? I THINK YOU CAN EITHER GET AN EXTERNAL PRINTER OR YOU CAN GET 'EM, I I THINK IT PRINTS IT RIGHT THERE.
YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO UNLESS YOU WANT TO RUN 'EM UH, THROUGH DISPATCH.
YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO GO BACK TO YOUR CAR.
YOU CAN JUST SWIPE IT DIFFERENTIATE RIGHT THERE AND THEY SIGN FOR IT.
I THINK THAT'S THE ONE SHE WAS LOOKING AT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF LIKE ONE LITTLE AUTOMATED, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GO OFF SOMEPLACE KIND OF LIKE A CREDIT CARD DEAL.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT JUST, UH, QUICKER IT GETS THE OFFICER OFF THE SIDE OF THE ROAD QUICKER AND THE WHOLE DEAL.
WELL WHEN YOU SWIPE YOUR LICENSE, IT PULLS UP EVERYTHING THAT SAVE TIME.
YOU WON'T HAVE TO CALL DISPATCH AND UNLESS WE WANT TO RUN TO SEE IF THEY'VE GOT WARRANTS OR WHATEVER.
WELL, IT, IT WON'T DO THAT NOW THAT I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE ON THAT.
LOOKED AT YOU JUST SCAN THE INSPECTION STICKER.
THE REGISTRATION THING I DO IS THAT THE ONE THAT COST MUCH HAD ALL COST AND ALL ONCE YOU GOT INTO IT BUT YOU COULD FIND OUT EVERYTHING ABOUT THE GUY JUST IT WAS MORE THAN THE CITATION KITCHEN.
YEAH, IT, IT'S, I UNDERSTAND IT DOES NOT HAVE THAT BUT I DUNNO ABOUT IT.
YOU CAN EITHER PURCHASE OR RENT 'EM.
YEAH, I THINK IT WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE FISCALLY SOUND THAN RENTAL.
YEAH BECAUSE IF SOMETHING HAPPENED TO THEM AND THEY TAKE CARE OF IT, YOU KNOW, ONE OR TWO CITATIONS, YOU'VE COVER THE COST OF IT FOR THE MONTH.
UM, PLUS IF IT BREAKS OR WHATEVER IT'S OLD, YOU JUST TRADE IT IN AND THEY GIVE YOU A NEW ONE.
AND THEY PROBABLY COME OUT WITH A NEW MODEL EVERY TWO YEARS OR SO.
THEY JUST UPGRADE SIX MONTHS YOU'RE OUT THERE AND YOU DROP IT OR SOMETHING.
I MEAN YOU KNOW, ALL KIND OF NOT TO OWN.
WE DON'T GET INTO THE END OF LIFE STUFF.
YEAH GEORGE THAT ALRIGHT IF IT WORKS WITH THE THE SOFTWARE IT'LL BE AWESOME BECAUSE UH, THE ONES THAT WE USE WHEN YOU SWIPE IT, IT AUTOMATICALLY SENT THE COURT THEIR INFORMATION IN THEIR PICTURE.
YEAH, IT JUST DUMPS IT RIGHT THEN BECAUSE I MEAN THERE'S A LOT OF TIMES WE'LL WRITE A TICKET AND THE GIRLS ARE CALLING US AND WELL WE DON'T HAVE THIS TICKET YET.
THEY'RE ALREADY CALLING WANTING TAKE CARE BUT CAN'T.
AND THEN WE MIGHT MISS AN OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE THEY WON'T CALL BACK.
SEAN, I KNOW SHE GOT UH, $3,710 IN A NEW EQUIPMENT BUDGET.
WHAT YOU DO WITH THAT DEAL? I MEAN WHAT ARE YOU BUYING WITH LAST YEAR OR THIS NEW YEAR? NEW YEAR? UM, PROBABLY GONNA LOOK AT ANOTHER FIREARM AND UH, THEN I THINK THOSE CAMERAS BUCKET, I GET WRONG BUCKET.
THERE ACTUALLY HAS BEEN SINCE LAST YEAR.
WELL NO THAT WAS THERE FOR HIM.
HAS IT BEEN TWO MORE SINCE THEN? YEAH.
HEY I THINK UP WHERE Y'ALL ARE REALLY.
I THOUGHT I ASK BUT YOU KNOW THEN WE, LIKE I SAY WE'VE BEEN OUT ON SM BEFORE WHERE'S TEAR ON IT SIDE AND WE'VE GOT SOMEBODY IN IT AND NOTHING TIE TIED OFF AND WE'RE ALL SITTING THERE WITH OUR SHOULDERS UP UNDER AND I THINK ROAD WOULD BE A WHOLE LOT CHEAPER WORK COMP BROKE SHOULDER, THAT MEAL TAPE.
IT'S 1800 POUNDS OF STRENGTH AND IT DOESN'T WEIGH HARDLY ANYTHING.
ALRIGHT, WELL IF YOU WILL, UH, WE'LL GET BACK TOGETHER.
I MEAN THIS IS JUST OUR PRELIMINARY, YOU KNOW, FIRST UH, WALKTHROUGH OF BUDGET AND SO OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GONNA BE MEETING AGAIN BUT TOLD, TRIED TO TEST ON RATHER THAN Y'ALL MEETING WITH ME AND COMING BACK.
COME BACK SECOND TIME WE JUST THOUGHT WE JUST CUT IT OUT AND UH, SO, UM, WE'LL WE'LL SEE WHERE WE, WHERE WE GO AND, AND AGAIN ON SALARIES, WE'RE JUST TRYING
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TO KIND OF SEE WHERE WE WIND UP TOTAL BUDGET WISE ON WHAT WE CAN DO.BUT WE ARE PLANNING ON DOING SOME ACROSS THE BOARD SALARY INCREASE OF SOME SORT, WHAT THAT IS.
ANY ANYTHING ELSE FOR SEAN GAS? NO.
UH, YOU AND UH, MARY AND THE OTHER JPS CONSTABLE, THAT TICKET WRITER THING, I THINK WE'VE GOT THE FUNDING AVAILABLE THAT NOW AND THE JP TECHNOLOGY FUND IF I REMEMBER RIGHT.
DID THAT HAVE TO BE BID OUT OR? I, I THINK IT'S UNDER DOLLAR'S.
NOT, I THINK BACK KNOW WHEN WE LOOK AT THE FIRST TIME.
I THINK IT WAS, I THINK THE COST LOOKED AT IT FIRST AND THEN THE SO EXPRESSED INTEREST AND THEN WHEN YOU LOOKED AT ALL THE USER FEES, UH, ADDING THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, I'M SURE THEY LIKE TO HAVE IT.
WELL, BUT IT GETS EXPENSIVE WHEN YOU, EVERY TIME YOU ADD A USER THE LAST, SO IT KIND DEPENDS.
UH, LET'S SEE, WE GOT UH, BRIAN COMING AT UH, ONE CHANGE BECAUSE IT'S SUPPOSED TO COME TOMORROW, RIGHT? WHO RIGHT BEFORE IN THE MORNING CHANGED? YEAH, I'VE GOT HIM FOR TODAY.
UH, AT ONE O'CLOCK AND THEN UH, GOT CONSTABLE JOHNSON COMING AT UH, TWO O'CLOCK AND TRYING TO GET IN TOUCH WITH KATHY ABOUT COMING AT ONE 30.
SO WE'LL JUST, ANGIE'S TRYING TO ARRANGE OVER SINCE WE'RE MOVING, MOVING UP RIGHT.
ONE AND KATHY AT ONE 30 AND THEN, UH, JASON AT UH, TWO AND THEN WE'RE TRYING TO GET IN TOUCH WITH CONSTABLE UH, STEVENS ABOUT COMING IN ON END AFTER THAT.
SO EVERYBODY READY TO TAKE A BREAK AND COME BACK ABOUT ONE O'CLOCK? SOUNDS GOOD.
I BEEN BEFORE BUT WASN'T THE SAME DAY.
UH, BUT I, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW THE TEACHER, IT'S NOT A, WHENEVER I WAS TEACHING, NOT THAT I'M THE TEACHER BUT
YOU WANT SIT, MAKE COMFORTABLE THERE.
UH, AND YOU MAY HAVE, MAY HAVE SEEN THIS OR YOU I HAVE YOU HAVE SEEN.
OKAY, WELL WE JUST, UH, I'D ASKED KAREN TO, UH, A FEW DAYS AGO PUT THIS TOGETHER SO EVERYBODY I SEE AND UH, UH, JUST KIND OF WHERE WE ARE ON REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES FOR BOTH OFFICES.
SO DO YOU HAVE ANY, YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK IT OVER? YEAH.
DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR? THE ONLY COMMENTS I HAVE ARE WE DON'T GET PAID FOR SERVICE TRUANCY THROUGH MY COURT WHEN WE SERVE ALL THE CRIMINAL TRIPS, WHICH THEY MAY SEND US 10 PAPERS OR 30 MAY COME IN AT A TIME, WE'LL MAKE A DIME OFF THAT.
A LOT OF THOSE WE SERVE TAX PAPER.
SO CYCLE BEFORE THAT TURNED IT AROUND.
JUST, I TALKED TO THE OWNER THE OTHER DAY, WE JUST RECEIVED A PAYMENT FROM 2008 OR 2009, SOME TAXES ON SOME SERVICE
SO, UH, AND YOU KNOW, WE CAN PRICE OURSELVES OUT OF BUSINESS ON OUR SERVICE, ON OUR PRICES OF WHAT WE SERVE PAPERS FOR.
IF Y'ALL HAVE TAKEN TIME TO LOOK AT WHAT THE OTHER COUNTIES CHARGE, WE'RE MUCH HIGHER THAN THE SURROUNDING AND A WHOLE LOT HIGHER THAN WHAT THE PRIVATE PROCESS SERVICE, THEY'RE IN IT TO MAKE A LIVING.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE RAISE OUR SERVICES.
SO THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE THE AMOUNT OF PRIVATE GUYS OUT HERE.
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SO, UM, AND A LOT OF THE SAME ONES THAT ARE SERVING PAPERS FOR PRIVATE PROCESS OR BAIL BONDS AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF.SO I MEAN, THEY, THEY KIND OF KNOW THEIR COMMUNITY.
SO I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT OVER THE YEARS, THAT'S WHY OUR, OUR NUMBERS HAVE ALL WENT DOWN.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU GOT MORE PEOPLE IN HERE SERVING THAT'S DOING IT FOR LESS MONEY.
IF YOU'RE SELLING ROCK, I COULD GO NEXT DOOR AND BUY IT FOR HALF THE PRICE.
HOW MUCH HIGHER ARE WE? I'D HAVE TO CHECK AND JUST, AND SEE.
I, I MEAN I, IT'S EASY NUMBER TO PULL.
WE SHOW YOU THE DIFFERENCE IN IT.
AND TWO, LIKE PRIVATE PROCESS SERVICE, THEY'RE NOT HAVING THE SAME STANDARDS.
STANDARDS AS WE ARE, WE HAVE TO SHOW DUE DILIGENCE AND WHAT WE DO, THEY DRIVE BY AND THEY'RE SIX SMITHS ON THE MAILBOX.
AND ONE OF 'EM, J SMITH, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR JOHN.
SO THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN US AND PRIVATE PROCESS SERVICE.
AND I SAY THAT HAS A WHOLE LOT TO DO WITH, UH, BETWEEN OUR PRICE INCREASES ON OUR PAPER SERVICE OF WHAT WE CHARGE AND UH, ALSO THE, THE PRIVATE PROCESS SERVERS.
I CAN'T MAKE PEOPLE SEND ME ANY MORE PAPERS.
WE SERVE ALL YOU SO WELL, AND, AND I MEAN ALL THIS IS JUST FACTUAL INFORM.
YOU KNOW, AND THAT, AND THE NUMBERS.
AND IT'S A FACT THAT WE WENT UP AND PRIVATE.
WELL, WHEN YOU, IF YOU HAVE A CHANCE, IT'D BE GOOD.
SEND THAT JUST SO WE WOULD'VE IT JUST TO SEE IF WE ARE THAT FAR OUT LINE.
BUT THERE ARE, ON THE LAST PAGE.
I DID LOOK AND THERE ARE TWO COURTS THAT'S A DIRECT REFLECTION OF THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICES THAT DO MAKE MONEY.
IF YOU SHOW REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES.
SO, I MEAN, I DON'T, I'D HATE FOR EVERYBODY JUST TO LOOK AT THE FRONT SHEET AND SAY, WELL, I DUNNO WHAT Y'ALL ARE DOING, THE PRICES THAT WENT DOWN.
AND DON'T FORGET TO LOOK AT THE BACK SHEET AND SAY, WELL, YOU ARE MAKING MONEY.
WELL MEAN THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF IT.
AND I KNOW THAT THE PURPOSE OF THE JP COURT AND THE CONSTABLES IS NOT NECESSARILY MAKE MONEY.
AND I, AND I HATE IT, THAT SOMETIMES WE GET CAUGHT UP IN THAT THING OR ABOUT REVENUE.
AND OUR JOB, FIRST AND FOREMOST IS ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY.
AND YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES I, I WISH WE COULD GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT FIRST AND NOT THE REVENUE SIDE.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE REVENUE SIDE AFFECTS OTHER AREAS.
AND, BUT THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF PUTTING THIS TOGETHER, THAT IT WAS INTERESTING JUST TO SEE.
AND SO THAT WAS THE REASON WE CHOSE TO DO THAT.
BUT ON YOUR BUDGET, UH, ON, UH, LET'S SEE.
YEAH, HE WAS, I PULLED IT OUT.
I DIDN'T MAKE ANY CHANGES TO IT.
AND HOW MANY DO YOU HAVE NOW? I HAVE ONE FULL-TIME OFFICER AND I HAVE A, A PART-TIME THAT I HAVE, UH, $20,000 A YEAR TO SPEND ON HIM.
HE'S ALSO A DALLAS FIREMAN, A PARAMEDIC.
AND I ALSO CARRY HIM AS A ARSON INVESTIGATOR, WHICH HE HELPS OUT LARRY HELP.
WHY NOT THE SHERIFF? THAT JUST, THAT JUST BE A TOTAL OF SHERIFF OPERATION.
SHOULD THAT JUST BE A TOTAL OF SHERIFF OPERATIONS? IS THE SHERIFF HAVE TO CARRY THAT GUY OR, WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE, THAT'S UP TO THE SHERIFF.
I, THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT OR, WELL, I TOOK THE, I'M THE ONE TO ALL THE RESEARCH ON THAT, UH, MADE ALL THE PHONE CALLS, PUT IT TOGETHER, PRICE IT.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT WAS JUST KIND OF A JOINT EFFORT BETWEEN MY OFFICE AND THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT TO, TO DO THAT.
UM, I'VE TALKED SINCE DANNY HAS LEFT AND WENT TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, I TALKED TO CHIEF EVANS AND UH, THEY DON'T HAVE ANYBODY FILL THE POSITION RIGHT NOW.
I MEAN, THERE'S, THEY, THEY CAN'T FILL PATROL AND THEY'RE GONNA FILL PATROL BEFORE THEY FILL THAT.
I TALKED TO THE JUDGE THE OTHER DAY.
I MEAN, THAT NEEDS TO BE A MINIMUM OF TWO PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, TWO OFFICERS.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL NEED TO GIVE THE SHERIFF TWO MORE SPOTS AND DESIGNATE THAT AS LICENSE AND WAIT OR, OR WHAT.
BUT YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SHORT ON PATROL
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RIGHT NOW.AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY'RE GOING TO FILL THEIR PATROL POSITIONS BEFORE THEY ADDRESS A LICENSE AND WAIT.
BUT YOU HAVE TO BE TRAINED FOR THE LICENSE TO WAIT BY, DON'T TELL US WHAT THE TRAINING IS, WHAT'S REQUIRED FOR THE COMMERCIAL VEHICLE.
THE MAIN, THE, THE ONLY THING YOU HAVE TO BE TO, IN ORDER FOR ME TO STOP ONE OF YOUR TRUCKS, JUST PICK IT OUT.
YOU GOTTA BE CERTIFIED ON THESE HILLS.
THAT'S WHERE THE TRAINING COMES IN.
BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS WEIGHING THAT TRUCK.
THEN THE FURTHER INSPECTION COMES FROM THAT WAY BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO LOOK AT SOMETHING GOING DOWN THE ROAD AND SAY, OH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WORKING.
UNLESS THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE MISSING A TARDY AND MUD FLAPS OFF OR, YOU KNOW, SOME LIGHTS OR SOMETHING'S NOT WORKING PROPERLY, BUT YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE THE TIRES OR, OR THE BRAKES OR, OR THE AIRLINES OR YOU KNOW, ANY OF YOU CAN'T SEE ANY OF THE ADJUSTMENTS UNTIL YOU GET THE TRUCK STOPPED AND YOU WAIT.
AND ONCE YOU DECIDE TO WAIT, THEN YOU CAN GO THROUGH IT.
SO THE WEIGHT IS A JUSTIFICATION FOR STOP THE WEIGHT.
THAT'S WHY EVERY OTHER POLICE OFFICER CANNOT JUST STOP.
WE CAN, IF WE SEE A VIOLATION, LIKE I SAID, A MUD PLACE, SOMETHING THAT'S VISIBLE, ANY PEACE OFFICER CAN STOP IT.
AND WE'VE MADE UP SHEETS TO GIVE THE OFFICERS DOWN ON OUR END TO LOOK FOR THESE VIOLATIONS THAT GO BY.
WE VERY SELDOM WILL WE WRITE SPEEDING TICKETS TO THESE GUYS.
'CAUSE AS YOU KNOW, A SPEEDING TICKET IS MUCH HARDER ON SOMEBODY WITH A CBL VERSUS ABSOLUTELY.
A TARP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THAT'S, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO KEEP ANYBODY FROM MAKING A LIVING.
BUT WE'RE ALSO, OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE THEM SAFE.
BUT THE, THE TRAINING THAT YOU NEED WOULD BE WOULD, AND IT IS, IT IS ALL GOOD TRAINING.
'CAUSE ONCE YOU'RE DOWN THERE YOU LEARN OTHER THINGS THAT YOU WOULD NOT KNOW.
BUT IN ORDER TO, TO HAVE THAT TITLE AND FOR Y'ALL TO APPOINT SOMEBODY, LIKE IF, IF WE WERE A LARGER AREA, YOU COULD DEEM A DEPUTY CONSTABLE AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE ARE SAYING HE IS OUR COMMERCIAL VEHICLE GUY.
WE DON'T MEET THE CRITERIA FOR THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE TO DO THAT.
SO IN ORDER TO HAVE THE COUNTY WISE JURISDICTION, THAT'S WHY WE WENT WITH A DEPUTY SHERIFF IN ORDER TO DO IT.
BUT WE SENT, UH, DANNY WENT TO DENTON COUNTY AND TRAINED UP THERE FOR A WEEK THROUGH THEIR SCHOOL AND ALSO THE DPS, THEY PUT HIM TO SCHOOL FOR A WEEK AND HE WENT TO WORK PROBABLY A TOTAL OF ABOUT A MONTH, YOU KNOW, TWO OR THREE DAYS HERE AND TWO OR THREE DAYS THERE OVER IN ELLIS COUNTY WITH THEIR COMMERCIAL VEHICLE OFFICERS.
SO IT'S LIKE WITH ANYTHING YOU CAN SET IN A CLASSROOM, SOMEBODY IN BETWEEN YOUR HEAD FULL OF WHATEVER, BUT UNTIL YOU GO OUT AND GET YOUR HANDS DIRTY AND, AND DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF HOW YOU LEARN BUSINESS ON THAT.
SO ELLIE COUNTY HAS TWO COMMERCIALS TO SEE? YES.
ARE THEY OUTTA THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT OVER, THEY ARE OUTTA THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
AND THEN THEY ALSO HAVE WE ON THIS PAST YEAR, UH, WHICH SOME MONEY THROUGH TCEQ THAT THE COUNTY WAS ABOUT TO LOSE, UM, WITH THE ADMISSIONS ENFORCEMENT.
UM, THAT IS A, UH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S VERY TIME CONSUMING.
'CAUSE YOU'VE GOTTA GO THROUGH AND SEARCH THROUGH AND YOU FIND A STATION.
YOU START FIGURING OUT HOW MANY VEHICLES THERE ARE HERE IN KAMAN COUNTY AND GO THROUGH A SEARCH AND INSPECTION ON EACH ONE OF THEM AT THESE STATIONS.
AND WHAT YOU DO IS, THE WAY TO START BUILDING YOUR CASE IS WHEN YOU START SEEING A REOCCURRING VIN NUMBER AT ONE LOCATION, WE ONLY GOTTA DO IT ONCE A YEAR.
SO WHY IS THIS CAR THEN NUMBER KEEP POPPING UP? WE START SEEING YOUR, USING THAT CAR FOR TO PASS OTHER PEOPLE'S AND BY THE TIME YOU PUT IT ALL TOGETHER AND MAKE YOUR CASE GO MAKE CONTACT WITH THE PERSON, VIOLATE THE LAW, GET YOUR CASE FILED, THEN YOU HAVE TO GO BACK IN AND TURN HIM BACK ANOTHER REPORT BACK TO THE STATE.
SO IF THEY HAVE OFFICER OUT THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE, THAT'S HIS OWN RESPONSIBILITY OVER DALLAS COUNTY TO TAKE CARE OF THE WHOLE COUNTY.
AND THAT'S HIS OWN RESPONSIBILITY.
UH, WE KIND OF GOT TIED UP WITH A LOT OF OUR TIME TAKING CARE OF THE MISSIONS WHERE DANNY WOULD'VE TO PULL OFF AND DO THAT.
AND SO I'M GOING TO TRY AND START HANDLING THAT ON MY OWN.
UH, 'CAUSE IT STARTS BECOMING AN ISSUE LIKE WE JUST HAD WITH THE FUNDING.
DANNY WASN'T COSTING US ANYTHING.
'CAUSE THAT FUNDING WAS BEING PAID THROUGH, UH, INCOME THROUGH THE, THE TCU GRANT.
DID THEY PAY A HUNDRED PERCENT OF IT ON THAT? UH, THEY, I THINK IT WAS ONE OF THOSE KIND OF PHASE IN GRANTS OR WHERE RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WAS A HUNDRED PERCENT BECAUSE IT'S LIKE THOUSAND.
SO THAT'S WHAT HAD COME THROUGH.
SO WE'VE HAD TO STOP THAT AND TRANSFER IT BACK TO OUR DEPARTMENT, UM, ON THAT TO GO THROUGH OUR PAGE ON OUR OFFICE.
BUT ON THE YOU DO HAVE A PART-TIME OFFICER? I DO HAVE A PART-TIME.
AND I ONLY FOR MY SALARY ONLY THOUSAND A YEAR.
THE YOU OFFICER THAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR, WOULD THAT TAKE THE PLACE OF THE PART-TIME OFFICER? WELL, I MEAN THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE Y'ALL'S DECISION.
UM, LIKE I SAID, HE, HE'S ABLE TO COME OUT IN THE EVENINGS AND TAKE CARE OF THE PAPER SERVICE.
YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT PAPER FOR SOMEBODY, THEY STILL HAVE JOBS.
SO THEY'RE, AND WE TRY AND SPREAD IT OUT.
UH, WE'VE GOT AN OFFICER THAT WORKS EVERY
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OTHER SATURDAY ON ABOUT SEVEN TO ONE, UH, TO CATCH PEOPLE AT HOME.BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY JUST TAKING CARE OF OUR AL SERVICE IN THE EVENINGS OR, OR OUT PATROLLING IN THE EVENINGS IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE COUNTY.
LIKE I MENTIONED, HE'S A, HE'S A PARAMEDIC.
AND UH, WE ALSO HELP OUT LARRY UNION'S OFFICE THAT NO EXTRA, I MEAN, THAT'S JUST PART OF HIS DUTIES THROUGH OUR OFFICE.
BUT, UH, HIM BEING ABLE TO RESPOND OUT IN THE RURAL AREA PRECINCT BEFORE, UM, BY BEING A LICENSED PARAMEDIC AND A LOT OF TIMES BEATING AMATEUR RESPONDERS.
THERE IS, I MEAN, I THINK 20,000.
DON'T THINK ANY TAXPAYER WOULD ARGUE WITH THAT IF THEY'RE SHOWING UP WITH THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS.
SO HE WOULDN'T BE A CONSIDERATION FOR YOUR FULL-TIME HIRE? NO, HE'S, HE'S GOT A FULLTIME JOB.
HE'S A, HE'S A FULL-TIME JOB AND HE'S JUST START NURSING SCHOOL.
SO HE'S PLACE WHAT ABOUT THE, UH, TCQ PERSON WHO I'M JUST I'LL, I'M GONNA TAKE THAT RESPONSIBILITY THAT WAY? WE DON'T, IT'S NOT AN ISSUE.
AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE WHOLE WE'LL HAVE TO, EVERYBODY WILL HAVE TO CONTINUE TO DO THROUGH THE, THE COMMERCIAL VEHICLE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER CONTINUES TO BE THROUGH MY OFFICE AND I'M OKAY WITH THAT.
AS LONG AS I AGREE WITH THE SAME PERSON THAT SHERIFF AGREES TO SIT DOWN THERE.
WELL, I THINK THAT, I KNOW SEAN IS INTERESTED, I THINK IN A COMMERCIAL VEHICLE OFFICER, UNDERSTANDING CONSTABLES MAY BE INTERESTED.
SO, WELL I IF IF WE, IF THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO, UM, AND WE WANT TO PUT THAT MANY ON, I'M SURE THE SHERIFF'S NOT GONNA WANNA SPREAD THREE OFFICERS OUTTA THREE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.
SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THEY'LL BE I KNOW EFFICIENCIES ONE WAY VERSUS OTHERWISE.
WELL, THE EFFICIENCY'S NOT, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, REALLY JUST A MATTER OF THE LAW, HOW THE LAW, THAT'S IT.
I MEAN, WHAT WE JUST CALL IT WAS LIKE A TASK FORCE.
IT WAS INITIALLY INITIATED BY YOU, THAT'S WHY YES, SIR.
NO, NO STATE STATUTE OR ANYTHING.
JUST BECAUSE I INITIATED TO THE LEG BOARD, PUT IT TOGETHER.
I APPROACHED THE JUDGE ABOUT IT, MR. MANNING THE SHERIFF.
AND WE'VE KIND ALL AGREED THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE KIND OF DIRECTION WE NEED TO GO.
SEEMED LIKE IT'D BE A LOT CLEANER DEAL TO JUST PUT IT ON THE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT.
WE REALLY DO AT ALL THAT WAY IT COULD GO ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTY.
FILE THE PAPERS IN WHICHEVER PRECINCT THEY WERE.
TICKETS WERE WRITTEN IN AND WHERE THE TICKETS FILED.
NOW, DO THEY ALL REPORT? THEY MAINLY FILE MOST OF 'EM THROUGH FOUR JUST BECAUSE YOU START, YOU TURN ONE IN SOMEWHERE THAT THEY'RE NOT USED TO SEEING THOSE TICKETS OR THOSE VIOLATIONS.
YOU KNOW, THEY START HUNTING IN ODYSSEY, THEY CAN FILE 'EM AND, YOU KNOW, SO IT JUST, IT WENT IT LOW OUT.
AND I HAVE TO KEEP UP WITH WHAT'S WRITTEN OUT THROUGH MY OFFICE.
'CAUSE THOSE TICKETS WERE WRITTEN OUTTA MY OFFICE.
I HAVE TO KEEP UP WITH MY REPORTING FOR MY RACIAL PROFILING TO THE STATE.
AND I'M NOT GOING TO, YOU KNOW, TRY AND TRACK SOMETHING DOWN IN PRECINCT THREE AND PRECINCT TWO AND PRECINCT ONE TO GET MY NUMBERS RIGHT TO THE STATE.
SO I JUST SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU KNOW, FILE 'EM HERE.
IF THEY DON'T WANT IT TO COME TO COURT HERE, THEY GOT A RIGHT TO FOR CHANGE.
LIKE, WHY DID, UH, DANNY QUIT? ANY PARTICULAR REASON THAT, YOU KNOW? WELL, I MEAN HE WANTED A, HE JUST PAID MORE MONEY FOR ONE.
UH, BUT, UH, HE JUST DECIDED HE, THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING HE HAD DONE IS BEING INVESTIGATED.
HE'S KIND OF GETTING, UH, HE WAS GETTING TO DO THAT PART THROUGH THE TCEQ.
'CAUSE YOU ACTUALLY, YOU START FROM THE BOTTOM AND YOU BUILT YOUR CASE AND YOU FIND WHO YOUR SUSPECT IS AND, AND PUT EVERYTHING TOGETHER AND YOU KNOW, I GUESS HE KIND OF LIKE THAT.
SO DANNY'S BEEN IN LAW ENFORCEMENT A LONG TIME.
HE'S BEEN, HE WAS RETIRED LONGER THAN MOST OF THEM BOYS ARE ON PATROL
WHERE DID HE COME FROM? I MEAN HE, HE, HE WAS SERVING FOR 18 YEARS AND THEN, UH, AT FALLS SPRINGS FOR, I DON'T HOW LONG HE WAS THERE, BUT I MEAN HE'S BEEN A LAW ENFORCE FOR A LONG TIME ON THE VEHICLES.
AND UH, AND RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE TWO, TWO AND A HALF PEOPLE, OR TWO FULL-TIME PEOPLE AND, UH, THE PART-TIME.
AND THEN SINCE DANNY'S GONE, THAT VEHICLE THAT HE WAS DRIVING STAYS IT, I MEAN IT'S THERE AT YOUR PRECINCT.
WHAT WOULD THE THIRD DEPUTY DO FOR YOU? WELL SERVE PAPERS AND JUST WHAT WE GET TIED UP ON IS I TRY TO TAKE CARE OF ALL THE ADMINISTRATIVE STUFF AND BATTLE FOR COURT.
UM, AND VANESSA TAKES CARE OF THE PAPERS ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE COUNTY.
I USUALLY HANDLE THE ONES OVER IN MAYBANK THE AREA.
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THERE'S TIMES SHE GETS COVERED UP WITH THEM TOO, IS IF WE'VE GOT, UH, EVICTIONS OR, UH, RENTAL POSSESSIONS THAT WE HAVE TO SET UP THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE MEETING SOMEBODY AND IT TAKES TIME TO SIT THERE.AND WHEN THEY BRING UP
WHEN, WHEN WE GET A LOAD OF THOSE WE'RE, SHE'S OVER THERE LIKE, SHE'LL LEAVE IN THE MORNING.
I DON'T SEE HER UNTIL THAT EVENING.
AND YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES IT'S THREE TRIPS OVER THERE.
BEFORE WE CAN SHOW OUR DUE DILIGENCE, WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE THREE ATTEMPTS AND WE DON'T DO 'EM ALL ON THE SAME DAY.
SO YOU TRY AND SPREAD YOUR TIME OUT.
IF YOU WAS BY THERE THIS AFTERNOON, YOU TRY AND GET HIGH THERE THE NEXT MORNING.
SO IT SPREADS THE TIME OUT ON THE PAPERS, YOU KNOW, UH, BUT YOU WON'T SEE HER.
OR IF IT'S ME GOING OVER THERE AND SHE COVERS COURT MOST OF THE TIME I TAKE CARE OF COURT AND THE PAPERS ON THE, ON THE EAST SIDE.
SO IT WOULD JUST FREE UP TIME.
PUT SOME MORE FOLKS ON THE STREETS OUT HERE WHERE WE CAN PATROL BACK LIKE WE USED TO BEFORE.
WE DID TAKE ON SUCH RESPONSIBILITY.
WE PICKED UP HAR MAN IN THE CITY LIMITS.
WHEN Y'ALL PICK UP MORE AREA, Y'ALL MAY NOT PICK UP THAT MUCH MORE ROAD, BUT I PICK UP EVERYBODY THAT LIVES IN THAT PRECINCT, WHETHER THEY'RE IN TOWN COUNTY THAT I SERVICE AND THE SIZE.
THERE'S, THERE'S NO QUICK WAY TO GET FROM MAYBANK TO HARLAND.
IT'S ALL PLACE THE IS IT, IT IS.
HAVE YOU UH, LOOKED AT THE, UH, TICKET RIDER PROGRAM? YES, I'VE GOT THAT RIGHT HERE.
UM, ON THE TICKET RIDERS, I'VE GOT AN EXACT PRICE ON THE HANDHELD RADARS AND I SPOKE WITH MY JUDGE AND HE'S ON BOARD WITH PURCHASING THAT THROUGH THE, THE JPS IT FUND.
AND I CALLED ALL THE CONSTABLES, HAD THEM CHECK WITH THEIR JUDGE TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE ON BOARD WITH IT SO EVERYBODY WOULD BE IN AGREEMENT TO BUY THE HANDHELD RADARS AND THE TICKET RIDERS.
I, I'VE GOT A PRICE, SOME OF THE RADARS, BUT AS FAR AS THE HANDHELD TICKET RIDERS, I ONLY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME DOWN AND SEE HOW MANY THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SELL US BEFORE THEY GIVE US A PRICE.
AND I, ARE WE SURE THAT THE RADARS ARE PERMISSIBLE TO PURCHASE? I KNOW THE HANDHELD, UH, TICKET RIDERS ARE, BUT I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE RADAR.
I'VE UNDER THE IMPRESSION WE COULD PAY FOR THAT OUT OF THE TECHNOLOGY.
DO NOT THAT, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.
BUT I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IF WE CAN'T THEN HAND TICKET RIDERS, I THINK WE CAN BECAUSE WE, WE'VE TALKED FACT IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS THAT DIDN'T CODE, BUT IF, IF, IF WE CAN'T, THEN I GUESS SO AS FAR AS WE HAVE ENOUGH IN YOUR EQUIPMENT LINE, I ASK FOR ANOTHER $1,895.
WELL, AND, BUT I THINK THAT HAD SOME DISCUSSION.
MAYBE IT MIGHT BE BETTER TO RENT 'EM OR TO LEASE 'EM IN CASE YOU CAN RENT 'EM.
AT THE END OF THAT 36 MONTHS, IF YOU'RE RENT, YOU TURN IT BACK IN AND GET A NEW ONE.
IF YOU LEASE IT COST A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT YOU OWN IT AT THE END OF THE LEASE.
SO, UH, AND, AND THEN IT HAS TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH OUR ODYSSEY.
I MEAN WITH THE LADIES THERE IN COURT, WHEN HE CAN STAND ALIVE, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO CREDIT A TICKET OFF.
YOU KNOW, NOT EVERYBODY IN LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS GREAT PENMANSHIP.
SO THERE'S TIME FOR, YOU MIGHT WRITE SOMETHING DOWN IF THE CLERK DOES NOT SEE IT.
MY SPECIALTY WAS CHECKING SPELLING.
I NEVER WORD ABOUT HANDWRITING.
YEAH, YOU'D HAVE FUN WITH THE PEACE OFFICER
WELL, THE GOOD THING ABOUT THE TICKET RIDERS ARE, I MEAN IT CUTS ALL THAT OUT AND ALL THE CHECKS.
DO WE KNOW IF, IF ON THIS, WHAT DO YOU WANT TICKET THE TICKET RIDER? DO WE KNOW IF ON THAT TICKET RIDER, IF THERE'S STILL THE FEE? IN OTHER WORDS, WE LOOKED AT IT BEFORE THERE WAS A SUBSCRIPTION FEE.
THE LAST ONE WE LOOKED AT WAS THROUGH BRA TECHNOLOGIES AND THERE'S, THEY HAD ONE, THEY HAD A FEE, UM, FOR EVERYTHING YOU COULD THINK OF.
I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S JUST TECHNOLOGY IN TWO YEARS, THIS WILL ALL BE OFF END OF LIFE.
I WAS TRYING TO FIND THE PAGE.
YOU SAY, I WANNA CHANGE THIS OUT, BUT JUDGE ADAMS INDICATED HE WAS OKAY WITH PURCHASING THE PARTICULAR AND OR THE RADAR.
IF, IF WE CAN DO RADAR, AND I, FOR SOME REASON, I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO WE KNOW WHAT THE MONTHLY FEES ARE OFF.
IF YOU'LL FLIP THROUGH THERE, GIVES A BREAKDOWN.
THAT'S, I DON'T KNOW HOW, I DON'T REMEMBER HOW
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MANY THAT BEFORE, UH, DANIEL, SEAN'S DEPUTY CALLED AND NICK GOT HIM TO SEND US, SEND IT TO US.AND UH, AND IT DOES WORK WITH ODYSSEY.
SO I DUNNO HOW MANY, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY WOULD AGREE ON.
THEY WERE TO, THEY WERE WAY OUTTA LINE I THOUGHT.
UH, TELL ME ABOUT PROFICIENCY TITLE IN THE SENSE HOW IT WORKED WHEN YOU, YOU WERE WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT? YES.
IS THAT WHAT WE CALL THAT PROFICIENCY PAY CERTIFICATE? YOU TALKING ABOUT CERTIFICATE PAY? I THOUGHT WE CALLED IT PROFICIENCY.
I DON'T, THE WAY YOU'RE TALKING THE SAME THING.
IT IS BASED OFF OF, THERE'S A, YOU GOT A BASIC, UH, INTERMEDIATE ADVANCED IN A, A MASTERPIECE OFFICE LICENSE AND IT PAID, UH, A HUNDRED DOLLARS A MONTH FOR E CERTIFICATE.
SO YOU, IF YOU OWE MASTER THAT ONCE IT AVAIL, THE ONLY THING I LOST WAS $25,000 A YEAR IN THE VEHICLE ALLOWANCE.
BUT I WAS UPSET ABOUT, IT'S NOT WHAT TYPE OF VEHICLE I CAN BUY AS I LOST 7% OUT OF THAT THAT WENT INTO MY RETIREMENT BY THE TIME I GOT A PAYCHECK.
I'VE BEEN IN HERE NOW, IT'S MY SECOND TERM HERE.
HOW MUCH MONEY I LOST OUTTA MY POCKET.
BUT OF COURSE YOU DON'T HAVE THE EXPENSE, THE FEE.
NO, I DON'T, I DO LIKE MY TIME.
I THINK WE CALL THAT A PREPAY AMOUNT.
IS THAT WHAT WE CALL IT? CAROLYN? UH, KAREN, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT FOR THERE, UH, WHAT IT WOULD BE ON THE BUDGET THING? HOLD ON.
PREPAY AMOUNT FOR CERTIFICATE PAY.
SO YOU YEAH, IT'S UNDER PREPAY.
YEAH, JUDGE, WHY, WHY DO WE CALL IT PREPAY? I DON'T KNOW.
THAT'S THE WAY IT'S SET UP IN THE PAYROLL SYSTEM.
WELL PROBABLY SHOULD BE CALLED THAT DOESN'T, DOESN'T REPRESENT WHAT IT'S ONE OF THE, I'M UH, I THINK MAYBE A COUPLE OF YOUR COHORTS HAVE, UH, HAD THAT WHEN THEY WERE IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND WHEN THEY WON ELECTION, THEY LOST IT.
UH, BRIAN, I MEAN, UH, SEAN DIDN'T, DIDN'T HAVE, HE MAY HAVE, I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
HE MAY HAVE, I'M NOT GONNA SPEAK FOR HIM.
AND I, AND I'M JUST, I'M SURE WE'RE GONNA HEAR THIS, IS THAT HE FELT LIKE SINCE THERE WAS NO SERVICE COUNTY, THAT, AND UH, I THINK WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THE ELECTED OFFICIALS DIDN'T, NONE OF THE CONSTABLES HAD IT.
I MEAN THAT'S WHY I NEVER QUESTION.
THE ONLY THING I WOULD QUESTION IS I THINK THAT THE CONSTABLES JP FEES, THEIR, THEIR SALARIES SHOULD BE EQUAL.
I MEAN, I HAVE TO HAVE A LICENSE TO DO WHAT I DO AND I HAVE TO KEEP UP WITH THAT LICENSE.
IF I GET A DWI, I LOSE MY LICENSE.
IF I GET CLASS C OF FAMILY VIOLENCE, I CAN'T DO WHAT I DO.
BUT YOU CAN CONTINUE TO BE A DISTRICT ATTORNEY OR JP OR WHATEVER THAT ON YOUR RECORD.
WE CAN, WE HAVE TO KEEP THE LICENSE RECORD.
AND I DON'T, I I FEEL THAT OUR PAY SHOULD BE EQUAL TO JPS PAY.
YOU KNOW, OF ANY COUNTIES THAT HAVE A SITUATION LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, I HAVEN'T, I, YOU KNOW, I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT THE PAY SHOULD BE EQUAL.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T GET PAID ANY EXTRA COME UP HERE TO LAST YEAR AND MY JUDGMENT GETS PAID EXTRA TO SEE, TO SEE THE CASES.
I'M NOT ASKING FOR ALL THE MONEY.
I MEAN, IT WOULD BE FINE WITH ME IF IT WAS DIVIDED UP BETWEEN THE OFFICE BECAUSE WE ALL VOTED THE COURT FOR YEAH.
I MEAN, THE CLERKS ARE THE ONES IN THERE BEATING THE PAPER OUT TO TAKING THE MONEY.
Y'ALL HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS FOR BRIAN? UH, ONE QUESTION ON OFFICE FURNITURE AND EQUIPMENT, YOU HAD 4,500 IN THERE LAST YEAR, THIS YEAR.
UM, I JUST, I JUST USED SOME OF IT.
UH, THAT GOT WHAT, THAT A LOT OF WHAT THAT
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WAS WAS WHEN I ASKED FOR, I'D ASKED FOR A NEW OFFICER LAST YEAR AND I WROTE DOWN WHAT TYPE OF EQUIPMENT IT WOULD TAKE TO OUTFIT THAT OFFICER AND THE MONEY GOT PUT IN THERE.SO I MEAN, I JUST SIT BECAUSE WE'VE KIND OF HAD WHAT WE NEEDED.
BUT, UH, I USED A LITTLE BIT OF IT THE OTHER DAY AND I, I USED MY AMMO MONEY UP BECAUSE I HAD BOUGHT AMMO.
SO, UM, I HAVE TO, WHAT I BOUGHT WAS FOR THE VEHICLES AND ON GAS AND OIL HERE.
WHERE DOES THE, WITH THAT, THROUGH TCU KEY, WE GOT MONEY THROUGH THAT, SAY USED VERY LITTLE.
BRIAN, WHAT, WHAT DID YOU WANT IN YOUR OFFICE? FURNITURE EQUIPMENT THIS YEAR? I DIDN'T TOUCH IT.
LIKE IT IS, I DIDN'T CHANGE IT.
I JUST SAID LIKE IT IS, IF I GET A NEW OFFER, I'LL STILL DO THAT MONEY DOWN.
UH, COMMISSIONER OL, HE EXCEPT 54 56.
SO ABOUT HALFWAY AND I, I, I STILL THINK THIS AMMUNITION NUMBER LOW.
SEAN SAID HE COULD QUALIFY AND STILL HAVE SERVICE AMMUNITION LEFT.
CAN YOU QUALIFY AND STILL HAVE SERVICE AMMUNITION LEFT FOR $500? WHAT WE DO IS WE USE BALL AMMO I KNOW TO RUN THROUGH ON OUR 50 ROUND COURSE AND THEN WE'LL SHOOT ANOTHER MAYBE A MAGAZINE OR TWO OF DUTY AMMO.
SO, I MEAN, YOU'RE SHOOTING UP, IT'S 50, THERE'S 50 ROUNDS IN A BOX.
20, $28 FOR A BOX OF 50, 30 BUCKS.
SO I MEAN, WHEN YOU GO TO ADDING IT UP ON, THAT'S JUST FOR THE HANDGUN.
IT'S NOT COUNTING THE SHOTGUN.
YOU SHOOT FIVE THROUGH IT AND YOU HAVE TO KEEP AT YOUR AMMO.
AND UH, AND ON THE AR THERE'S 30 SAID 30 ROUNDS.
WE'LL SHOOT ABOUT 90 AT A TIME AND WE'LL GO THROUGH IT.
I JUST SPENT, UH, PIECE 200, I THINK 200 LEAST I TURNED THAT IN.
WAS IT TWO 40 ON 2 23? IT WAS 500.
$581 IS WHY I JUST ON MAN, IT WASN'T FEDEX.
THAT'S, AND WE SHOOT TWICE A YEAR, SO I'LL SPEND THAT AGAIN, PROBABLY BACK CLOSE TO CHRISTMAS TIME.
SO $500 IS, BUT IT'S BROKE UP TO WHERE IT'S, IT'S TWICE A YEAR.
SIR, WAS THERE A LINE ITEM TRANSFER ON THAT? WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED THE BILL.
ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO MAKE SURE THE MONEY'S IN THE, IN THE LINE ITEM BEFORE YOU SPEND IT? I GOT A PURCHASE ORDER.
YEAH, BUT IT WAS ONLY LIKE, THE WHOLE TICKET WAS ONLY FOR 500 AND SOMETHING.
THE, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT AMOUNT IT WAS OUT OF.
THAT WAS A FLASHLIGHT WHICH CAME OUT OF THE EQUIPMENT.
EQUIPMENT VERSUS, SO HIS AMMO WAS ONLY 400.
I ESTIMATE HE, SO HOW MUCH AMMO DO YOU KEEP ON IN RESERVE IN CASE OF EMERGED? I'M TRY TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, HAS IT IN THEIR VEHICLE.
WHAT THIS YEAR KAREN, WE LIKE, LIKE HE IS, WE HADN'T GOT THE BILL YET.
WHAT ABOUT YOUR, UH, TRAINING AND EDUCATION CONFERENCE? YOU SPENT LIKE THREE LAST YEAR, SOT YOU GOT 2000? YES.
UH, THIS YEAR IT'S JUST BEEN, I WAS IN THE HOSPITAL, SO I GOT BEHIND DANNY'S DAD WAS IN THE HOSPITAL.
AND A LOT OF STUFF THAT I HAD PLANNED TO TRAINING ON, I, I DIDN'T MAKE IT.
AND YOU KNOW, VANESSA WAS, WAS COVERED THE ENTIRE OFFICE.
OUR CONFERENCE THIS YEAR WAS IN WICHITA FALLS.
I DUNNO WHY ANYBODY GONNA GO THERE.
SO I, I JUST, UH, I DIDN'T GET TO MAKE IT.
I ONE TRIP PLANNED TO GO TO HUNTSVILLE.
UM, AND WE USUALLY GO JPCA PUTS ON SOME ONE DAY CLASSES.
THERE ARE, UH, SOME OFFICER SAFETY SCHOOLS.
I TRYING TO GET EVERYBODY TO, BUT WE JUST, WE AIN'T HAD TIME TO TAKE OFF TO GO.
I MEAN WE, I LIKE GO GET TRAINING LIKE FOR EVERYBODY TO GO, BUT WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THEM ALL.
SOME OF TRAINING PAID OUT
WE'VE GOT A CIVIL PROCESS CLASS THAT THEY WERE
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GONNA HAVE 1ST OF JUNE, BUT IT GOT PUT OFF TILL AUGUST THAT WE WERE GONNA TRY GET THROUGH, UM, THIS YEAR.AND I THINK JOHN, KEVIN, MY PART-TIME AND MY OTHER DALLAS FIRE RESERVE FOR ME, UH, THEY WENT UP FOR SOMETHING THAT THEY HAD GOING ON.
SO WE DID DO SOME TRAINING OUT THERE IF THEY OFFERED SOMETHING THAT WE NEED.
OTHER QUESTIONS FOR BRIAN? ARE YOU LOOKING AT HIRING ANOTHER FULL-TIME AND KEEPING YOUR EXTRA HELP BUDGET AS WELL? IS THAT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO, I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S UP Y'ALL.
THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO, I HATE FOR ANYBODY TO LOOK AT MY PART-TIME GUY AND SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, HE'S GONNA BE DOING THE SAME THING THIS OTHER MAN'S DOING BECAUSE HE'S ABLE TO COME IN EVERY, UH, AND LIKE I SAID, WHEN HE'S OUT JUST HAVING THAT, YOU KNOW, RUNNING ON MEDICAL CALLS AND THEN HELPING OUT OFFICE IF THEY NEED.
SO, AND I DUNNO HOW MUCH THEY'VE USED IF AT ALL, BUT HE IS, UH, AN RC INVESTIGATOR.
SO YOU DON'T THINK YOU ORDER YOUR UP TO A THOUSAND? IF I GO OVER, I'LL TRANSFER.
WHAT ARE UH, YOUR PARTS AND REPAIRS? YOU GOT 3000 IN THERE FOR THIS COMING YEAR AND UH, FOR 15 YOU THINK A THOUSAND DOLLARS A PIECE FOR THOSE VEHICLES? NOTHING.
THE WAY TIRES HAVE GONE UP, THERE'S 3000 IN IT BECAUSE I'M NOT GONNA BE THERE NEXT YEAR.
I HAVE THE TIRES ON THERE RIGHT NOW.
UM, YOU KNOW, MY, MY PARTS AND REPAIRS ALL DEPENDS ON HOW THE OLD, THE NEW ONES, YOU KNOW, WE TAKE, YOU KNOW MY SEND THEM UP TO HAVE THE OIL CHANGE THE TSHIRT AWAY.
IT'S THE OLDER ONES THAT IF WE HAVE TO SPEND A BUNCH OF MONEY ON, I I I GET ALL I CAN OUT OF TIRES.
THEY GET, HE THE COMMISSIONER GOT, YOU KNOW, NEEDING TIRES AND I, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO MAKE OUR MONEY STRETCH AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE RUN OVER A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, IF I NEED TO PULL FROM ANYBODY ELSE.
SO YOU THINK YOU'RE GOOD ON THE PARTS AND REPAIR? I THINK SO.
WE, I MEAN, I I IF I, IF I NEED SOME TIRES, I, I COME IN HERE AND ASK FOR THEM.
I DON'T, NOBODY'S GOING TIRES.
I REQUEST ENOUGH MONEY FOR THEM.
DO YOU WANT ONE OF THESE? I GOT ONE.
THANK YOU THAT YOU WANT COME UP.
YOU HERE? WE WEREN'T QUITE READY FOR IT.
C WHERE DO YOU WANT BE? ALRIGHTY.
ALL RIGHT, LET'S, UH, KIND OF WE'RE LOOKING AT FUND, UH, GENERAL FUND 10 OF COURSE.
AND THEN THE PUBLIC WORKS BUDGET IS FIVE 20 AND WE SEE WHERE KATHY IS AND THEN IT'S UH, UH, PLUS HER LONGEVITY, WHICH WILL GO AWAY AFTER THIS YEAR.
AND, UH, SALARY OF THE 9 1 1 COORDINATOR, UH, SAN AND ALL OF THESE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING YET ON SAUDIS.
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TRY TO DO SOME SORT OF ACROSS THE BOARD INCREASE FOR EVERY EMPLOYEE.NOT SURE AFTER YOU LEAVE? YEAH.
HAVE YOU REALLY, REALLY, REALLY GOOD ONE.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S UH, AND THEN EXTRA HELP.
UH, SO THE RETIREMENT, THAT'S ALL THREE IN OFFICE SUPPLIES.
UH, YOU'RE ASKING AN ADDITIONAL $400 FOR YEAH, THE SOFTWARE UPGRADE FOR THE 70 SYSTEMS, UH, SOFTWARE IS $400 A YEAR AND I USUALLY UPGRADED THAT EVERY OTHER YEAR BECAUSE THERE REALLY WASN'T THAT MANY CHANGES.
UM, IT'S BEEN TWO YEARS SINCE IT'S BEEN UPGRADED.
IT JUST SHOWS YOU USED 207 ACCOUNT THIS YEAR.
YEAH, THAT'S ALL I'VE USED SO FAR THIS YEAR.
BUT YOU'VE USED 1400 NEXT YEAR.
LAST YEAR I HAD TO LINE ITEM TRANSFER BECAUSE I HAD TO BUY FILING CABINETS THAT BECAUSE WE RENT FILING SPACE AND THAT, THAT WAS THE SAME YEAR I HAD DONE WHAT WE DO WITH THE REVAMPING OF THE OFFICE DOWN.
THIS STILL GONNA HAVE TO BE DONE.
PARTS AND REPAIRS OR FILMING SUPPLIES? THAT'S JUST FILMING SUPPLIES, YOU KNOW, THAT'S BEEN IN THERE FOREVER AND EVER.
UM, A COUPLE YEARS, TWO, THREE YEARS AGO I THINK I TRIED TO HAVE THAT DELETED BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T USE IT.
AND I'M THINKING IF WE BUY A NEW DIGITAL CAMERA, IT'S JUST 'EM, SMALL ONES.
WE CAN DO IT OUT OF THE OFFICE SUPPLIES.
SO WE COULD ELIMINATE THE FAMILY SUPPLIES.
KAREN, YOU GET THAT? YES, SIR.
AND THEN PARTS AND REPAIR, IS THAT ON THE VEHICLE? THE TWO VEHICLES? RIGHT.
AND I THINK THAT ONE OF 'EM IS PROBABLY GONNA BE SET OF TIRES HERE IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
SO THAT PROBABLY NEEDS TO STAY.
UH, YOU'RE ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH THE BUDGET.
ABOUT HALFWAY AND MILEAGE AND MEALS AND LOGIC.
THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY, PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE USE MOST OF THAT DURING THE YEAR.
WE TRY NOT TO, BUT WE TRY NOT TO TRAVEL AS MUCH AS WE HAVE TO.
UM, THREE PEOPLE THAT ARE LICENSED TO GO FOR SAN FRANCISCO INSPECTION, WE ALWAYS WENT TO WACO.
THAT'S FOR THE END OF THE YEAR OF THE CONFERENCE AND THAT'S WHAT NEEDS UP MOST OF THAT BUDGET.
DANNY DOES FLOOD PLAIN ADMINISTRATION AND SOMETIMES THEIR CONFERENCE.
WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS HAS BEEN IN DALLAS, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN YEARS WHEN IT'S BEEN DOWN, UH, SAN ANTONIO IN THAT AREA THAT HE'LL HAVE TO GO TO UNIFORMS. WHO, WHO HAS UNIFORM? EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY WEARS UNIFORMS AND OUR CAN REPLACE TWO, TWO EMPLOYEES UNIFORMS A YEAR WITH THAT MONEY.
AND THAT'S, AND USUALLY THOSE SHIRTS IT'S JUST SHIRTS.
AND THEY LAST A COUPLE YEARS, SO THAT'S A GOOD, THAT'S A GOOD, UH, FUND FOR THAT.
THE DUES OF 300, UH, LIKE IN 2013 BEEN 45.
IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHEN THE, UH, LICENSES EXPIRE.
SO SOME OF IT'S DANNY IS, IS $45 EVERY YEAR FOR HIS FLOODPLAIN UH, DUES.
AND FOR THE SUBJECT SYSTEM IT'S 111 FOR EACH PERSON AND THEY ALTERNATE YEARS AND THAT'S THE WAY THEY HAVE GOT ISSUES.
SO IT'S LIKE ONCE EVERY YEAR THAT COMES DUE.
DANNY'S I ACTUALLY PAID FOR, IT'S NOT ON THIS, THIS RIGHT NOW, I THINK I'VE JUST GOTTA PAY FOR THAT BILL A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
AND, UH, MISCELLANEOUS OF COURSE THAT'S A SMALL AMOUNT, BUT DCS SEARCH, THERE'S A SEARCH ENGINE THAT WE'VE USED FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER AND IS A LAST RESORT KIND OF THING.
UH, WE CAN'T FIND OUT THE PUBLIC DATA.
IF YOU'VE GOT A COMMON NAME, YOU KNOW DAVID SMITH, YOU'LL GET 5,000.
LET'S JUST DO THAT BY ADDRESS OR DATE OF BIRTH.
WE'VE GOTTEN SOME UPDATES, A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL, BUT IT DOES COST.
SO WE DON'T USE THAT UNLESS WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO.
IS IT BY, BY SEARCH I MEAN IT COST BY SEARCH, SO YEAH, IT DOES.
AND THE LEASE PAYMENTS THAT'S ON THE VEHICLE, ON THE VEHICLES SIDE.
WHERE ARE YOU ON THE VEHICLES? THEY WERE TWO, THEY'RE 20 ELEVENS.
WE PURCHASED THEM IN 2011, I BELIEVE.
SO IT'S A FIVE YEAR NOTE ABOUT TWO AND A HALF AGO.
AND YOU HAVE TWO, TWO VEHICLE MM-HMM
AND INTEREST PAYMENTS THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT.
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DANNY AND KIM, TWO VEHICLES.YOU MY AND SOMETIMES I STILL WANNA CHECK
YEAH, I DID QUESTIONS ON THAT.
ON THE BUDGET AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW.
BEFORE AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW.
BEFORE WE DO ANY CONVERTING OR YEAH.
IF, IF, YOU KNOW, IF I WERE TO SAY THIS WOULD BE GOOD SINCE I'M NOT, THE ONE THING THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED IS TO GET AWAY WITH THE EXTRA HELP AND ADDED FULL TIME CLERK BECAUSE LIKE I EXPLAINED, I DO ABOUT 50% OF THE PAPERWORK FOR THE SUBJECT SYSTEM.
STUFF THAT HAS TO BE DONE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DO ALL OF IT BECAUSE THERE'S JUST WAY TOO MUCH TO DO.
SO YOU NEED FULLTIME CLERK TO TAKE OVER THAT PART AND THE EXTRA HELP CAN GO AWAY.
YOU WANT TO, YOU KIND OF, AND WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE ANY DECISIONS ON THIS TODAY AND I KNOW IT'S BEEN LOTS OF, I JUST HEARD ONE ABOUT 30 MINUTES AGO.
BUT IT HAS, YEAH, I'M TOO, AS MUCH AS I'M TRYING TO STOP IT, IT'S UM, SHORT OF CUTTING OUT TIME FOR GETTING THEM PERMANENTLY.
AND WE'RE NOT HERE, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE TIME TODAY TO TALK ABOUT THIS, BUT IT IS SOMETHING WE, WE NEED TO SPEND SOME TIME AND THINK ABOUT WHAT'S IN THE COUNTY'S BEST INTEREST AND THE POSSIBILITY OF EVEN CUTTING POSITION OR TWO.
SO, UH, UH, MY, MY BELIEF IS, IS THAT WE PROBABLY SHOULD MOVE THE TWO ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICERS BACK TO THIS DEPARTMENT OR SOME DEPARTMENT.
AND YOU TOLD HIM ONCE, JUST SO EVERYBODY HEARS THE SAME STORY.
THEY WERE MOVED TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT OF WHAT, THREE OR FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO? I MEAN, YEAH, IT'S BEEN, UH, PROBABLY CLOSER TO SEVEN AT THIS POINT.
AND THE REASON WAS, HELP ME, HELP ME THROUGH THIS.
THEY, UH, WHEN IT WAS FIRST STARTED AND THEY, EVERYBODY WORKED AS AROUND OWN DEPARTMENTS.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HELD THE COMMISSION THAT AUTHORIZES THEM.
GARY GUNS FOR THE TWO PIECE OFFICERS.
I MADE SURE THEY GOT ALL TRAINING, EVERYTHING THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO FOR YOUR CHIEF CLOTHES HAD NO PROBLEMS. THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY AT THE TIME WAS BILL CONRAD.
HE DIDN'T WANT TO MESS WITH THIS.
WHY ASKED LARRY IF HE WOULD CARRY THE COMMISSIONS, WHICH HE DID.
AND SHORTLY AFTER THAT, LARRY SAID HE DIDN'T WANT ANY PART OF IT AND HE COULDN'T KEEP UP WITH TRAIN.
HE DIDN'T WANNA WORK WITH ME AT ALL.
SO THEY TRANSFERRED TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
THAT'S HOW THEY GOT TRANSFERRED.
I DIDN'T SAY SO BECAUSE, AND IN TALKING TO THE TWO GUYS, 'CAUSE THEY BOTH WORKED FOR ME AT THE TIME, THE GUYS WHO ARE DOING THE JOBS NOW AND THEY BOTH WORKED FOR ME AT THE TIME AND TALKING WITH THEM, UM, I CAN UNDERSTAND THEIR FRUSTRATION BECAUSE EVERYBODY KNOWS THEY'RE UP HERE 50% OF THE TIME BABYSITTING COURTHOUSES.
AND THEY'RE, AND I KNOW Y'ALL PROBABLY ARE HEARING IT BECAUSE THE TRASH DUMPING INCREASES THE PUBLIC ANCE PEOPLE ARE CALLING US START CALLING WONDERING WHERE THEY'RE AT.
HOW WE GET AHOLD OF THEM AND WHY THEY'RE NOT RETURNING.
I MEAN I'M STARTING TO GET THOSE CALLS AGAIN TOO.
AND I HAVE THEM FOR A LONG TIME.
PEOPLE ARE FRUSTRATED AND THEY'RE FRUSTRATED DO THEIR JOBS.
AND I DON'T, FROM TALKING TO THEM, I DON'T THINK THE SHERIFF HAS A, A CONCERN.
HE UNDERSTANDS THAT PROBABLY WOULD BE BETTER SERVED WORKING BACK UNDER ABSOLUTELY.
IF THEY DIDN'T WORK, THEY WOULD HAVE TO EITHER BE CARRIED BY ONE OF THE CONSTABLES OR THE FIRE MARSHAL OR STILL THE SHERIFF THAT.
SO WHAT MAKES YOU THINK FIRE MARSHAL WOULD CARRY 'EM NOW IF HE WOULDN'T CARRY 'EM BACK THEN? I DUNNO.
SINCE WE HAVE CONSTABLE HERE, YOU DON'T MIND WHAT WOULD BE THE PROBLEM WITH CONSTABLE HEARING THE ENFORCEMENT GUY'S COMMISSION? THERE WOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM AT ALL.
WE DID THAT OVER AT DALLAS COUNTY.
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THE BOARD SHOULD, I MEAN THEY COULD EVEN WORK IN ONE OF THEM, BUT THEY, THEY JUST NEED TO BE ALLOWED TO DO WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.DON'T I DIDN'T, I, I CAN'T PROBLEM.
BUT THE, THE POINT THAT WE HAVE IS WE USED TO BE ABLE TO CALL THEM AND SAY, HEY, WE NEED, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, MY GUYS ARE CIVILIAN.
THERE ARE SOME PLACES IN THIS COUNTY THAT YOU DON'T WANT A CIVILIAN TO GO BY THEMSELVES.
ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, TELL 'EM THEY'VE GOT TO FIX THE SUBJECT SYSTEM OR WHATEVER.
SO THEY'LL GET, TRY TO GET WALTER OR JOHNNY TO GO WITH THEM AND THAT MAY BE THREE WEEKS DOWN THE ROAD BEFORE THEY'RE FREE TO GO.
AND THESE, THESE ARE PUBLIC NUISANCES, THEY'RE HEALTH ISSUES.
THEY CAN'T WAIT THAT LONG TO BE INVESTIGATED.
AND WHEN PEOPLE CALL THE COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE, THEY DON'T WANT TO HEAR, OH, I'LL CALL 'EM AND SEE IF THEY CAN GET OUT THERE.
AND THEN WHEN YOU TALK TO 'EM AND SAY, WELL I'LL GET OUT THERE NEXT MONTH.
YEAH, THEY, THEY DON'T WANNA HEAR THAT THEY WANT THAT STUFF.
ESPECIALLY IF THEY GOT A NEIGHBOR WASHING OUT CHEMICALS.
THEY SAMPLES TAKEN RIGHT NOW WHILE THE WATER'S FLOWING AND THIS AND THAT PUTTING UP IN THEIR SEWER OVERALL.
AND WE, WE HAD ONE ACTUALLY THE OTHER DAY IN ELMO.
IT, UH, KEN COULD GO BY HIMSELF BECAUSE OF WHERE IT WAS AND IT TOOK LIKE A WEEK AND A HALF, TWO WEEKS BEFORE HE COULD GET ONE OF THOSE TWO GUYS TO GO WITH HIM.
NO, I WOULDN'T SHOW UP DINNER BY MYSELF.
NOT UNLESS I HAD TWO OR THREE BIG DOGS IN A CAMP.
WHAT ABOUT THE, UH, I GET, I KIND OF GET THIS CONFUSED IN MY MIND, THE, THE 9 1 1 MM-HMM
TELL ME HOW THAT, HOW THAT STARTED.
9 1 1 ADDRESSING STARTED IN 1991 AND THE INDIVIDUAL THAT WAS DOING THAT AT THE TIME, DOMINIC WAS THE FIRE MARSHAL AND THE EMERGENCY MANAGER COORDINATOR AND WE HAD TO DO 9 1 1 ADDRESSING AND HE WAS KIND OF PUT IN CHARGE OF THAT BY THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AT THE TIME.
AND SO THEY HIRED THE GUY TO DO IT AND HE WAS ACTUALLY WORKING UNDER DON AND AT THE TIME WE HAD TO HAVE A COURT ORDER IN PLACE THAT IMPLEMENTED THE 9 1 1 ADDRESSING.
AND I THINK THE LAST LITTLE PARAGRAPH IN THAT COURT ORDER SAYS THE NINE ONE COORDINATOR WORKS FOR THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR WITHIN ONE YEAR.
THE 9 1 1 COORDINATOR WAS TAKEN OUT FROM UNDERNEATH THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR.
GIVEN HIS OWN DEPARTMENT, HE WAS MADE A DEPARTMENT HEAD.
SO AS FAR AS THAT COURT ORDER GOES, I'M THINKING IT OUT THE WINDOW.
AND SINCE THEN THE 9 1 1 COORDINATOR SPOKE FOR ME WAS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR ALSO.
SO I DON'T KNOW THAT LEGALLY THEY HAVE TO GO BACK UP, FIND THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR OR NOT.
I MEAN STATE COMMISSIONER'S COURT THAT DID THAT CORRIDOR WITHIN A YEAR, BABY'S OWN DEPARTMENT.
UM, YOU TIME FLIES
AND THE COUNTY, OUR MAPS WERE KIND OF SCREWED UP BASICALLY.
THE COUNTY WAS ACTUALLY SKEWED INSTEAD OF BEING STRAIGHT UP TO THEM, ALL THE ROADS WERE SKEWED THIS WAY.
SO WE HIRED, GOT THE POSITION APPROVED, I HIRED THE PERSON IN THAT KNEW GIS THAT COULD COME IN AND FIX ALL THE BIG HUGE MISTAKES, WHICH SHE DID.
AND SO THE 9 1 1 ADDRESSING PROCESS IS DANNY'S ACTUALLY THE 9 1 1 COORDINATOR AND HE, HE DOES THE ACTUAL ADDRESSING AND MISTY'S DOING THE GIS STUFF AND ALL THESE PROJECTS WITH COG, WITH GIS BUT THEY ACTUALLY GO TOGETHER BECAUSE YOU'VE GOTTA PUT AN ADDRESS POINT ON THE MAP AND DANNY'S THE ONE THAT ISSUES THE ADDRESS POINT BUT ON THE MAP.
WELL THAT SHOULD REALLY BE ONE PERSON.
IT REALLY COULD BE AT THIS POINT.
I THINK DANNY COULD PROBABLY TAKE IT OVER AND IF, ESPECIALLY IF THEY WERE TO STAY TOGETHER, UM, IN THE SAME DEPARTMENT, MR.
SO YOU'RE PROPOSING HERE IT SAYS, SEE YOU'RE GONNA PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR AND 9 1 1 COORDINATOR.
THE THING IT IS IS, IS ANOTHER LITTLE THING YOU'VE GOTTA TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION IS THE TWO PEOPLE THAT DO THE S SYSTEM, KEN AND TRISHA, BOTH OF THEM TALKING ABOUT RETIRING NEXT YEAR AT THE SAME TIME.
SO IF THEY GO AT THE SAME TIME, THAT LEAVES A HUGE GAP.
I MEAN IF YOU SPLIT START SPLITTING, DEPART THE DEPARTMENT UP AND THOSE TWO GO WITH SOMEBODY ON THEIR OWN, THEN THERE'S NOBODY LEFT WHEN THEY RETIRE BECAUSE THAT'S DIFFICULT
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AT THE SAME TIME FOR WHATEVER REASON.WELL WHAT IF WE BROUGHT, UH, THE TWO GUYS OUT, THE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT IN THERE AND STARTED TRAINING THEM IN IN HER AND, AND UH, I, YOU KNOW, THE PAPERWORK IT TAKES TWO CLERKS TO DO.
ABSOLUTELY HAS TO TAKE TWO CLERKS TO DO ALL THE PAPERWORK INVOLVED.
UM, AS FAR AS THE INSPECTIONS GO AND HANDLING COMPLAINTS, THAT'S A FULL-TIME JOB FOR ONE PERSON.
AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE LEGALITIES, I THINK IT CAN BE DONE BY A PEACE OFFICER.
THERE'S, 'CAUSE WHAT WE DO IS CIVIL, WHAT THEY DO IS CRIMINAL AND THEN WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT INVESTIGATIONS AND WHO CAN GO ON WHAT PROPERTY AND WHO CAN'T AND WHO NEEDS A SEARCH WARRANT TO DO IT.
THAT'S, THAT KIND OF GETS MUDDY THERE.
SO AS THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS AND THE 9 1 1 COORDINATOR, YOU'RE PROPOSING THAT ONE PERSON TAKE OVER BOTH THOSE POSITIONS.
HEY THAT'S, I MEAN IF YOU WANT TO KEEP THE SAME PEOPLE IN CHARGE, IF, IF YOU SELECT TO JUST PUT DANNY IN CHARGE OF THE KEEP IT INTACT AS IT IS, YOU PUT DANNY IN CHARGE OF THAT DEPARTMENT TO MAKE HIM, HE CAN STILL DO 9 1 1 ADDRESSING.
HE CAN STILL DO BLOOD PLAN COORDINATION AND THEN HE CAN ALSO TAKE ON A SUPERVISOR'S ROLE ROLE THAT I'M DOING AND OVERSEE THE RESCUE OF HIS DEPARTMENT.
'CAUSE HE'S LICENSED AS THE SUBJECTS AS AN INSPECTOR.
HE CAN DO THE SAME FUNCTIONS THAT I'M DOING NOW BECAUSE WHEN I WAS GONE I HAD TO HAVE SOMEBODY FILL IN AND BE ABLE TO ASK ANSWER QUESTIONS FROM PEOPLE WHEN I'M ON VACATION OR WHATEVER.
SO THIS NEW, THE SECOND ONE FROM THE TOP PROPOSED POSITION HERE, THAT RIGHT THERE WOULD WORK IT.
FILL ALL THE POSITIONS, FILL ALL THE NEEDS OF THE CITIZENS AND NOT OVERLOAD ANYBODY.
NOT OVERLOAD ANYBODY AND BE ABLE TO CARRY ON AND THEN ADD ONE CLERK.
WHAT ABOUT THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, UH, OFFICE HAVING THE 9 1 1 IN END THAT WORKS EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT THE 9 1 1 PEOPLE, MISSY IS LICENSED TO DO SEPTIC SYSTEM INSPECTIONS AND SO IS DAN.
SO WE, THEY, THEY CAN FILL IN WHEN KEN TAKES OFF ON VACATION OR WHEN HE RETIRE BECAUSE IT IS A THREE MONTH PROCESS JUST TO GET A LICENSE TO INSPECT THE SUBJECT SYSTEMS. AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SOMEBODY THAT KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING TO TRAIN YOU BECAUSE SCHOOL'S GREAT.
THEY DON'T TEACH YOU WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT.
THAT'S THE STATE
BUT PUT IT THE PRACTICAL, GOTTA HAVE SOMEBODY THAT KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING TO GO OUT THERE AND SHOW YOU HOW TO PROPERLY WHAT OTHER DUTIES ARE IS MISTY TRYING TO GET GIS? SHE DOES GIS.
SHE CAN DO UH, PAPERWORK THAT I'VE BEEN DOING FOR THE SAFETY SYSTEM PART OF IT, THE CLERICAL PART OF IT.
I'VE BEEN TRAINING HER THE LAST THREE MONTHS ON SAFE AND TO BE ABLE BASICALLY TO BE ABLE TO TAKE OVER WHEN TRICIA RETIRES AND JUST HAVE THE CLERK DO THE INSPECTIONS AND THE FILING AND DO THE NEW, HELPING HER OUT THE NEW CLERK AND DO WHAT TRICIA'S DOING NOW.
EVERYBODY'S CROSS BASICALLY EVERYBODY ELSE'S JOB.
IF SOMEBODY IS SICK LIKE TRISHA WAS, SHE BROKE HER FOOT A FEW YEARS AGO AND SHE WAS OUT FOR SIX WEEKS.
YOU CAN'T JUST LET HER SLIDE BECAUSE SOMEBODY GOT WELL THESE GIVES US SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, UH, REALIGN THESE, THESE AREAS WHERE NOT ME.
NO, I, I KNOW PART OF THAT COURSE I ANYBODY ELSE? I'M SURE WE'LL BE WILLING TO VISIT AGAIN.
YEAH, I'M TOO BY THE TIME I THINK I HAVE IT DOWN.
THANK YOU FOR TRYING TO HELP US, GUIDE US DOWN.
IF EVERYBODY IS ALL CROSS TRAINED AND ALL THAT STUFF AND KEN AND PATRICIA ARE
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RETIRING.MM-HMM
YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO FOR A LITTLE WHILE.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, AND AND THAT ONE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE TIMES WHEN WE WERE DOING 15 INSPECTIONS A DAY.
IF IT GOES BACK TO 15 A DAY YEAH IT GOES BACK TO DAY, THEN YOU CAN CHANGE IT.
BUT IF YOU GOT TWO A WEEK OR THREE A WEEK OR WHATEVER, YOU GET A COUPLE OF DAY.
BUT WHAT I HAD KIND OF TRIED TO FIND ONE, ONE DOWN HERE, THIS GIS COORDINATOR, IF YOU LET IT GO THROUGH WITH THE FINAL POSITIONS, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR NINE ONE COORDINATOR, INSPECTOR, CHIEF CLERK, AND A FULL-TIME CLERK, LET THIS GIS COORDINATOR JUST SIT FOR A WHILE AND SEE IF THEY CAN HANDLE IT.
YOU PROBABLY SAVE HALF THAT SALARY OVER THE YEAR IF THOSE TWO DO RETIRE THE FIRST PART OF NEXT YEAR.
YOU CAN'T GET FROM NO, YOU'LL BE GONE.
QUESTIONS, QUESTIONS, QUESTIONS.
I TRYING TO GET THEM TO DEFINITELY GIMME AN ANSWER WHEN I START WORKING ON BUDGET.
IT WAS JANUARY THEN IS A POSSIBILITY OF THIS SCATTER SHEET IF YOU WEREN'T LEAVING, COULD YOU TERMINATE HIM AT THAT POINT? YOU GOTTA HAVE SOMEBODY POSITION ON JANUARY ONE OR WHATEVER.
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE HERE.
SO I NEED MAKE PLAN FOR SOMEBODY ELSE TO BE HERE.
I WANT SOMEBODY TO TELL ME THAT HAVE TO HAVE SOME MORE HELP.
BUT YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE SEE UP, WORRY ABOUT THAT TWO RETIRE AT THE SAME TIME BE A REAL ISSUE.
AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT COMPLICATES WHAT WE'RE TRYING DO.
AND I THINK THAT WAS THE MASTER PLAN OF THOSE TWO ANYWAY.
WELL IT'S BEEN WELL KNOWN AND SPREAD.
EVERYBODY'S YOU GOT SAYING COURSE YOU EXCEPT FOR PUBLIC WORK.
Y'ALL WANT STAND, TAKE A QUICK WALK THROUGH AND JASON YOU CAN COME ON UP HERE IN A MINUTE FOR PRECINCT TWO.
SO I'M GONNA PUT THIS RIGHT HERE.
HOW ARE YOU JUDGE YOU HIM OUT.
WE DON'T GIVE YOU EXTRA GEAR TO START WITH YOU.
ARE Y'ALL A BREAK OR SOMETHING? NO, I JUST THREE MINUTE BREAK LEG.
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OKAY SIR, THANK YOU FOR COMING IN.AND THIS IS FOR THE UH, CONSTABLE PRECINCT NUMBER TWO AND UH, JASON, YOU WHAT A MONTH NOW YOU BEEN ON? UH, YES SIR.
KIND OF GOT SETTLED IN A LITTLE BIT I GUESS.
EVERYBODY TREATED PRETTY NICE.
ALRIGHT, LET'S, UH, ON THE SALARY STUFF, WHAT WE'RE DOING ON IT RIGHT NOW IS, UH, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO COME ACROSS WITH SOME SORT OF A COUNTYWIDE SALARY INCREASE, UH, FOR ALL THE EMPLOYEES AT SOME POINT.
WE'RE NOT SURE WHERE WE ARE ON THAT.
WHAT LIKE, YOU KNOW, HOW THAT WILL WORK.
BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE HOPING TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS YEAR AND I'M, I'M SURE WE'LL TRY TO DO.
SO YOU HAVE YOURSELF AND A DEPUTY, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
UH, THE OLD BUDGET OR BUDGET YOU'VE INHERITED A 15,000.
IS THAT SOMEBODY THAT WORKS ON A PART-TIME BASIS? YES SIR.
UH, AND THEN OF COURSE YOU GOT THE OTHER THING THERE, THE AMMUNITION.
IS THAT SATISFACTORY AMOUNT? UH, NO I HAVE NOT SPENT ANY, I'M ACTUALLY, UH, BEING THAT I JUST CAME INTO THE OFFICE, THERE'S UH, AMMUNITION IS KIND OF SCARCE SO I'M FIXING AND PLACING AN ORDER SO I CAN HAVE SOME AMMO IN THE OFFICE.
DID YOU HEAR THE DISCUSSION WE HAD WITH THE OTHER CONSTABLE JUST TO LOOK AT THE GUN? NO, I DID.
I THINK LISA, YOU WANT, I THINK, WHO WAS IT, BRIAN OR BRIAN? BRIAN.
HE HAD A, THAT SEEMS TO WORK FOR HIM, BUT YEAH, I DON'T, I'M NOT REAL FAMILIAR WITH WHAT IT IS THAT HE USES.
'CAUSE A LOT OF THEM USED DIFFERENT AND THE BIGGEST ORDERS THAT WE PUT TOGETHER USUALLY IS GENERALLY FOR THE SL COURSE BECAUSE THEY, I GUESS THEY HAVE QUALIFYING AND THEY HAVE TO, WHAT BRIAN WAS TALKING ABOUT, THEY USED BALL AMMUNITION TO QUALIFY WITH AND THEN THE DUTY AMMUNITION COURSE.
SO SEAN HAS THE SAME BUDGET, FIVE SUFFICIENT FOR HIM PART.
DO YOU FEEL OKAY WITH THAT? OH YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
AND THEY GENERALLY GO OVER GET THAT USUALLY HAVE TO BUY SO MUCH IN ADVANCE.
JASON, ON THE OFFICE SUPPLIES, ARE YOU ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL OR LESS? I'M, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU OR WANT TWO 50 MORE? TWO 50 TOTAL.
AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD AND I'VE SKIPPED OVER YOU.
YEAH, NO, AND I MEAN, AND, AND FROM WHAT I CAN TELL FROM JUST COMING IN AND LOOKING AT THE BUDGET THAT HAS BEEN SPENT, I MEAN IT IS BEEN ABOUT 300 IF NOT, SO I HONESTLY DON'T THINK I'M GONNA BE SPENDING THAT.
I JUST, I'LL JUST KEEP OVER IT ON PARTS AND REPAIRS.
UH, YOU'VE GOT A, UH, A TAHOE, I BELIEVE THAT'S FAIRLY, UH, NEW AND UH, YOU HAVE ONE, YOU STILL HAVE THE OTHER VEHICLE OR DID DID IT GET TRANSFERRED OVER TO I STILL HAVE THAT VEHICLE.
UH, CONSTABLE STEVENS AND I, I AM BACK ACTUALLY WITH THE BUDGET THAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW.
UM, I HAVE GOT WITH LISA, I'M ORDERING FOUR NEW TIRES FOR THE VEHICLE AND THEY GET IT UP AND OPERATIONAL, UH, WITH THE NEW MARKINGS TO MAKE SURE ALL THE EQUIPMENT WORKS HANDY BECAUSE OF, UH, CONSTABLE STEVENS HAS A CAR THAT GOES DOWN.
UH, THE MARKINGS GONNA BE UNIVERSAL INSTEAD OF JUST IDENTIFYING THE PRECINCT, HE CAN USE THE VEHICLE AS WELL AS IF WE HAVE A VEHICLE THAT GOES DOWN, WE HAVE A VEHICLE AS WELL.
SO YOU GOT WHAT, A TAHOE AND ONE MORE VEHICLE.
I HAVE A TAHOE, I HAVE THE CHARGER AND THEN I HAVE THE CROWN VIC.
THAT'S RIGHT AT ABOUT 140 550,000.
SO PARTS OF REPAIRS, UH, WE'VE NOT SPENT A LOT.
I MEAN LAST YEAR WE ONLY SPENT 6 47, BUT AS THE VEHICLES GET OVER, HAS ANYTHING SPILL THERE? JUST ONE SECOND SIR.
UM, PARTS REPAIRS, IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE SAYING? YEAH.
UM, HADN'T, DOESN'T LOOK AT LIKE ANYTHING'S BEEN SPENT 2014.
WELL, I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT IT, IF
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YOU PARTS AND REPAIRS.YOU TALKING ABOUT THE AIR CONDITIONER? YEAH.
IF YOU LOOK 2011, UH, THE HISTORY SHOWS THAT IT WAS LIKE 54 68.
THEY 23 88, 75 FOR 12 AND ONLY 6 47 0 3 FOR 2013.
THAT'S PROBABLY DUE TO THE NEW.
AND THE FACT THAT THE PREVIOUS CONSTABLE, IF YOU REMEMBER, HE HAD HIS OWN VEHICLE OVER THERE FOR YEAH.
YOU KNOW, SO I THINK THAT'S ABOUT THE TIME HE WENT OUT, I THINK.
SO HE WAS PAYING OWN, HE'S ABOUT HALFWAY THERE FOR WHAT WAS BUDGETED FOR THE WHOLE YEAR.
BUT HE PAY ON HIS, I MADE A COMMENT, REMEMBER HIS WAS REAL LOW USAGE.
YOU HAD MORE OH, GAS AND ALL IS TO 2173.
BUT YOU GOTTA REALIZE THAT YOU HAD ONE OFFICER THAT WASN'T HAVING DONE ANYTHING FOR A WHILE AND SEAN'S GOT 11.
DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU NEED TO GO UP FOR THAT? ABSOLUTELY.
I MEAN, GOING OVER THE LAST BUDGET, I MEAN, YOU GOTTA UNDERSTAND THE LAST ELECTED OFFICIAL WAS NOT HIGHLY INVOLVED WITH THE COMMUNITY.
AND I WENT THROUGH AND ADDED UP AND FROM JANUARY TO APRIL, ONLY $460 WAS SPENT OUT BY HIM ALONE.
JUST AS I CAME IN AND WAS APPOINTED IN MAY, I FILLED UP AT ABOUT $560.
UM, SO I'M TAKING A ROUGH GUESS HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, I COVER NOT ONLY MYSELF BEING MORE INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO DEPUTY GONER AS WELL.
YOU'RE GOING BE OUT AND ABOUT QUITE A BIT MORE.
I'VE BEEN OUT IN VALLEY SINCE I'VE BEEN IN, ALRIGHT, SO 10,000 FIELDS AND THEN, UH, MILE WHEEL LODGING UP WHEN YOU GO OUT TOWN ON A, UH, TRIP, OF COURSE, I GUESS YOU WOULD PROBABLY TAKE YOUR VEHICLE IF YOU DID THAT.
UH, IF YOU'RE GOING A TRUST, UH, TRAINING OR A OR A SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IF I'M GOING THROUGH ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE DEPARTMENT SIDE OF IT YEAH.
THEN I WOULD TAKE THE COUNTY TO GET IT APPROVED.
BUT IF IT IS NOT THAT ANYTHING TO, IT'D BE MY PERSONAL CODE.
WELL I UNDERSTOOD, RIGHT? YEAH.
I MEAN IF YOU'RE GOING TO SOME SORT OF A SCHOOL OR SOMETHING.
SO THE 2200 WOULD BE SUFFICIENT.
I I I'M ASSUMING THAT IT WOULD BE, I HAVEN'T TOUCHED IT BECAUSE I, I DON'T KNOW.
I I'VE BEEN TOLD BY SEVERAL OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS AT SCHOOLS ARE GONNA BE COMING UP THAT YOU, YOU HAVE TO ATTEND TO AND THEN KIND OF GIVING ME AN IDEA.
BUT I THINK 2200 WOULD BE FINE AND IF IT IS, IF IT IS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO THAT, WHEN IT COMES TIME THAT WE NEED TO ADJUST IT, THEN WE'LL DEFINITELY ADJUST IT.
UH, KEEP IN MIND THAT THE HOUSTON COUNTY VEHICLE, WE'LL BE USING THE FUEL VAN CARD THAT'S ACCEPTED JUST ABOUT EVERYWHERE.
SO THE GAS WOULD BE, SO IT'D ONLY BE HIS BILLS IN HOING CHARGED THERE.
TRAINING THAT IT DESIGNATED FOR THAT YOU'VE GOT 1200 BUT, UH, YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THAT? IT WAS ACTUALLY SAID AT, UM, A THOUSAND AND I JUST GOT $200 REFUNDED BACK TO THE BUDGET ON A, UH, CIVIL PROCESS CLASS AT DEPUTY ER.
AND, AND, UH, MY PART-TIME WAS GOING TO CLASS ON THAT WAS GONNA COST 200 PLUS AN ADDITIONAL EIGHT $900 FOR HOTEL WHEN THEY CAN GO TO DALLAS FOR FREE.
SO I CALLED HIM AND GOT THE $200 REFUNDED BACK AND, AND UH, WE TURN IT IN JUST YESTERDAY.
UH, BONDS, UH, THAT'S, UH, WOULD PAID ONE YEAR, PAID 4 75 SO FAR.
PAY, I GUESS THERE'S OTHER BONDS YOU AND YOUR DEPUTY BUT THAT MAYBE HAVEN'T BEEN PAID.
THAT CORRECT, KAREN? WE PAID 200, SO JUDGE.
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WE ACTUALLY PAID 4, 7, 5, SO YES SIR.AND IT WAS 3 35 THE YEAR BEFORE.
SO 500, I MEAN, YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT 25 UNIFORMS OF THE THOUSAND, WHICH IS WHAT IT'S BEEN FOR THE LAST TWO OR THREE YEARS.
UH, USE, YOU'RE JUST REQUESTING 200.
AND ON MISCELLANEOUS A HUNDRED? YES.
AND THEN ON THE OFFICE FURNITURE AND THE EQUIPMENT, UH, PRETTY GOOD INCREASE THERE.
WHAT, UH, UM, WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT WAS GETTING WAS, UH, UH, THE TWO LIDAR LASERS, UH, AT 2000 A PIECE.
UH, THE LIDAR EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, UH, IS COMPLETELY OUTDATED.
THE CALIBRATION PAPERWORK IS MISSING, THE CERTIFICATION PAPERWORK IS MISSING.
UM, SO AT THAT POINT I'M UNABLE TO WORK ANY TYPE OF TRAFFIC, UH, AT THE TIME FOR SPEEDING ANYTHING.
SO, UM, I WAS ABLE TO GET WITH, UM, NIKKI EARLIER LAST WEEK AND FOUND AN OLD HANDHELD RADAR UNIT THAT WE WERE ABLE TO PULL OUT OF THE BOX AND INSTALLED INTO THE TAHOE.
SO THAT WAY AT LEAST I HAVE A MOBILE UNIT SOMEWHERE THAT I CAN DO TRAFFIC CONTROL AS I'M DRIVING UP AND DOWN THE ROADWAYS.
BUT THE HANDHELD IS COMPLETELY OUTDATED.
I CAN'T EVEN USE THAT IF I WANT TO STEP OUT AND WORK INTO A, A RESIDENTIAL AREA WHERE I CAN JUST, UH, LASER THEM AND HAVE A POINT AND HAVE THEM OVER.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING, UH, LENE ABOUT THIS MORNING WAS SOME HARASSING THAT WE WERE GONNA BE COMING TURN BEGGING FOR SOME ASSET FOR HER FUND TO POSSIBLY PAY FOR SOMETHING.
THIS, SHE ACTED LIKE SHE WOULD AGREEABLE TO THAT, BUT SHE DIDN'T AGREEABLE TO THE CONCEPT.
SO IT MAY, MAY NOT HAVE TO BE SPENT.
NOW SOME OF THE ASSET FORFEITURE, SOME OF THE CONSTABLES HAVE A, FOR FUND ONLY PRECINCT COURT.
ARE YOU IN, DID YOU DO THAT IN DALLAS COUNTY OR ARE YOU INTERESTED IN START? NO, WE DID THAT IN DALLAS COUNTY AS WELL.
AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, CONSTABLE MORRIS AND I WERE EVEN TALKING LIKE I TALKED TO COMMISSIONER, UH, CLARK, IS THAT, UM, UH, I GOT WITH JUDGE ASHCROFT ABOUT EVEN LOOKING AT THE JP TECHNOLOGY FUND TO SEE IF THEY COULD GO THAT ROUTE.
UM, AND THEY WERE LOOKING INTO IT AND I KNOW COMMISSIONER CLARK WAS SAYING THEY MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO DO THAT ONE, MIGHT HAVE TO LOOK AT A DIFFERENT WAY.
I, I LOOKED AT THE STATUTE, PATRICIA BROUGHT IT BY AND TO THE TICKET RIDER OR WHATEVER YOU CALL THAT, YOU KNOW THE TICKET RIDER OH, SITES.
BUT I'M, I'M NOT, I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO THE, THE RADAR.
UH, I MEAN WE'VE STILL GOTTA VERIFY THAT, BUT THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
SO, BUT THE TICKET RIDER THING, IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS AUTOMATIC TICKET RIDER, WHATEVER.
AND, AND THE OFFSITE, THE ELECTRONIC TICKET, UH, RIDER, WHICH YOU, WHAT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE ELIMINATING FOUR COPIES OF A CITATION WHICH COSTING THE COUNTY MONEY.
WHEREAS THEN YOU CAN SWIPE THE DRIVER'S LICENSE IN IT AND IT PRE-FILLS EVERYTHING OUT.
AND THEN ALL YOU DO IS ENTER IN THE VIOLATION OF STUFF WHEN THERE'S A NO SEATBELT, WHETHER SPEEDING OPEN CONTAINER OR WHATEVER, AND YOU PRINT IT AND IT PRINTS TWO COPIES AND YOU GIVE THE COPY TO THE ACTUAL DEFENDANT, THE DRIVER, AND THEN YOU KEEP A COPY FOR YOURSELF.
OR YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO PRINT OUT TWO COPIES.
YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE OFFICE AND DOWNLOAD IT AND IT SAVES IT INTO THE COMPUTER SYSTEM AT THE OFFICE.
AND SO WHEN IT COMES TIME FOR COURT, IF THEY WANT TO ENTER A PLEA OF GUILTY, NOT GUILTY OR NO CONTEST, YOU CAN PRINT IT OUT RIGHT THERE.
YEAH, I THINK EVERYBODY WANTS WHAT PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE'VE HEARD.
THIS CAN BE PAID FOR OUT TAKING OFFICER FROM.
SO, UH, BUT I, I WOULD SAY I WOULD SUGGEST ALMOST $5,000.
'CAUSE AS FAR AS THE TWO FLAT YEAH.
UH, BEFORE LET, LET'S FIND OUT IF WE CAN'T GET THE DA TO PAY FOR PART OR ALL OF THAT.
YEAH, THANK BEFORE PUTTING THAT IN THERE.
IT WAS, IT WAS, I SUGGEST YOU SEND HER AN EMAIL REQUESTING THANKING HER FOR HER CONCERN.
LIKE RIGHT THERE AND SEE IF SHE, YOU WOULD COMMIT TO PURCHASING THE LIDAR.
YEAH, IT WAS FOR THE TWO LIDARS THAT 2000 A PIECE AND THEN ONE WAS FOR A SCANNER.
I HAVE A SCANNER AT MY OFFICE IS WE DO NOT HAVE A SCANNER WHATSOEVER.
SO ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE TO DO, WE HAVE TO GO TO THE JP TO USE THEIR SCANNER.
YOU WANT ME TO TAKE IT OUT UNTIL Y'ALL FIND OUT? THEN I CAN ADD IT BACK IN.
AND I'M AGREEABLE WITH IT, BUT I COME SOME OTHER NOT TAX MONEY
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SINCE UH, FORNEY PD HAS GONE THROUGH THE HIGH BAND FREQUENCY.HOW DO YOU COMMUNICATE THEN? UM, I HAVE A MEETING SET UP WITH THE CHIEF, CHIEF BARNES, UH, TO GET ONE OF THEIR HANDHELDS AT LEAST DONATED SOMETHING SO THAT WAY WE HAVE ONE IN THE OFFICE SO WHOEVER'S OUT AND ABOUT CAN HAVE THAT RADIO