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YEAH, IT'S THE SO POSITIVE JUST BRINGS IT TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT IT IS A CHANGE.
ALRIGHT, EVERYBODY, WE'LL CALL MEETING ORDER AM AND APPRECIATE EVERYBODY BEING HERE.
AND I BELIEVE OUR FIRST, UH, GROUP THAT WE'RE HERE, HE HAD A PRIOR ENGAGEMENT PRIOR TO GETTING THE NOTICE OF THE MEETING.
AND I, EVERYBODY, I GOT A COPY OF IT.
I BELIEVE THE ONLY THING I WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE, JUDGE, AND I MADE A COPY FOR EVERYBODY, OKAY.
IS ON THE 9 1 1, YOU NOTICE THE DIDN'T ADD UP, RIGHT? YOU JUST REPLACED THAT SHEET WITH IT.
UH, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE FIGURE DID NOT TOTAL UP SO REPLACED EVERYBODY'S, AND THAT WILL REPLACE THAT SHEET.
THAT WOULD BE YOUR BROWN, THE VERY FIRST, YOUR BROWN.
YOU'LL NOTICE IT SAYS WITHOUT SALARY AND IT HAD IT ALL.
YEAH, I BELIEVE, UH, WITHOUT, WITHOUT QUESTION, THIS IS THE MOST DETAILED SEEN FROM IN MY 30 YEARS.
WENT A LITTLE MORE DETAIL THAN WHAT WE NORMALLY DO.
I MEAN, LAST YEAR WE DID FAIRLY DECENT.
THIS YEAR WE DECIDED TO GO TO THE CHAMBER AND IT REALLY HELPS TO HAVE THIS DETAILS.
SHERIFF, UH, WE'LL AHEAD AND JUST, YOU GUYS BEGIN.
I THINK IF YOU WANNA START AT THE VERY FRONT.
THAT'D BE, THAT'D BE, THEN WE'LL JUST GO THROUGH THE BOOK IF THAT'S, WE PROBABLY HAVE QUESTIONS THAT'S FINE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTION YOU HAVE.
THE ONLY TWO MISTAKES I DID MAKE ON THE TOP IS ANYTHING IN RED IS A CHANGE USING THE POSITIVE OR THE NEGATIVE.
UH, UH, THE ONLY TWO I DID MESS UP IS SARAH, SALARY LONGEVITY DIDN'T CHANGE IT, STAY THE SAME.
AND THEN WHEN YOU GO TO THE SALARIES, THE SALARIES, YOU WENT AHEAD AND PUT RED, RED INDICATES A CHANGE.
A CHANGE EITHER TO THE POSITIVE OR TO THE NET.
AND THE GREEN IS JUST THE SAME.
AND THEN, UH, THE SALARY WE'RE A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
I KNOW THE ALTAR, WE WORK WITH HER REAL WELL.
SO IF ANY WE'VE WORKED WITH HER, UH, WE CAN TELL WHEN LONGEVITY COMES ALONG AND WE CAN PRETTY WELL GIVE A GOOD BASIS OF WHAT OUR SALARY'S GONNA BE NEXT YEAR.
THEN I'VE ALREADY SENT OVER TO, UH, KAREN AND SHE'S LOOKING AT THAT.
SO WE'LL BE WITHIN A THOUSAND SOME CHANGES ALREADY.
WE'VE HAD SOME PEOPLE LEFT WITH SOME LONGEVITY AND STUFF, SO THAT FIGURE WILL CHANGE A LITTLE BIT, BUT THAT'LL GIVE YOU AN IDEA.
AND THEN ALSO AS FAR RETIREMENT, I KNOW THAT THAT FIGURE HAS CHANGED.
WE'VE ALREADY ALLOTTED THAT RETIREMENT NUMBER IN THERE, SO WE'LL KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE.
SO THAT'S GONNA BE A REALLY CLOSE ESTIMATE OF WHAT WE HAVE AT THAT TIME WHEN I DID THAT.
AS FAR AS EVERYTHING, YOU'LL SEE THAT THAT'S STAYING THE SAME BESIDES THE ONE ITEM, WHICH IS A 3105 60, WHICH IS A GIS CRIME ANALYSIS.
WE'RE NEEDING TO MERGER THAT WITH COMPUTER FORENSICS DOWN THERE, WHICH IS 68 5 OF NINE 50.
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AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT WE'RE DOING ALL THE COMPUTER FORENSICS STUFF NOW, HARDLY ANY GIS.AND ALSO ON THE THIRD TAB OF THAT, YOU SEE THE BREAKDOWN OF THAT, THE FORENSIC LAB THAT WE DO.
AND THAT, IF Y'ALL WANT TO LOOK AT THAT SINCE THAT'S THE FIRST BIG CHANGE.
THAT'S THE THIRD TAB? YES SIR.
THE THIRD TAB, WHICH IS THE ITEMIZED OF 10 43 0 6 5 60.
WE RUN OFF, LEAVE THIS, UH, LET'S GO BACK UP TO SALARY.
I KNOW THAT YOU GOT AN INCREASE THERE.
BUT THAT'S GONNA BE LONGEVITY AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO ALL THAT FIGURED IN, THERE'S NO RANGES, NO MONEY.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE LETTER SAYS.
I, YES, THAT IS CLEAR AND CORRECT.
AND IF YOU WILL LOOK AT, WHEN WE GET TO THAT, I'LL SHOW YOU THAT TAB AT THE VERY END.
IT'S ALL PERSONNEL BROKE DOWN AND YOU CAN SEE THAT.
THIS IS, THIS IS DONE BY GEORGE AND CAPTAIN BERG.
YOU'LL ALSO SEE A LETTER, IF YOU'VE HAD THE TIME TO LOOK AT THAT, UH, THE ITEMIZED FORENSIC LABORATORY.
THIS IS WHERE WE DO ALL THE PHONE, THE COMPUTER, ALL THIS STUFF.
IT'S BEEN A PROBABLY ABOUT FIVE YEARS, IS THAT CORRECT? SINCE WE HAD THEM TIRE SEVEN YEARS FROM THE TIRES THAT WE USE TO ANALYZE ALL THE PHONES, COMPUTERS, SOFTWARE CHANGES, COMPUTER CHANGES, PHONE CHANGES.
AND WE HAVE TO UPDATE THE, THE SOFTWARE AND THE TIRE TO BE ABLE TO PULL THIS INFORMATION FOR OUR INVESTIGATION.
SO WHAT YOU WOULD DO, YOU WOULD ELIMINATE, UH, LINE 3105 60.
UH, I MEAN, DID YOU LEAVE THAT THE SAME OR WOULD YOU NO, WE PUT THAT TO ZERO OUT.
ZERO OUT AND MOVE DOWN TO COMPUTER FORENSIC AT 43 0 9.
AND THEN THE, THE BIG INCREASE THAT YOU'LL SEE AT THE VERY BOTTOM OF THAT ITEMIZED STATEMENTS ON THE THIRD TAB IS THE NEW FORENSIC TIRES.
THE NEW SOFTWARE THAT WE HAVE HAVE IS 2,600.
IF YOU'LL LOOK AT THE BACK OF EACH ONE OF THOSE PAGES, WE HAVE, UH, QUOTES ON IT.
THERE'S A LITTLE BIT IN THERE.
WHAT TAB DO YOU GIVE TO DO? IT'S A THIRD TAB ON THE BLUE.
WE OFF THAT ROOM ON THE TRAINING.
WHAT DO WE GET FOR 25,000 BUCKS? THIS, WE HAVE TO, THESE GUYS HAVE TO BE CERTIFIED EVERY YEAR ON THIS SOFTWARE.
WHO'S THESE GUYS? GEORGE YARD AND CAPTAIN BERG.
IT'S PRETTY MUCH, THIS STUFF IS EXPENSIVE.
IS THERE ONE PLACE? IT'S VERY, VERY LIMITED.
AND THIS KEEPS US FROM HAVING TO CONTRACT OUT WITH SOMEBODY TO DO THAT.
GOING OUTSIDE AND HAVING TO PAY SOMEBODY.
AND WHICH IF YOU, I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THE LETTER TO BERG, WE'RE DOING 19 OTHER AGENCIES THAT WE SEIZE AROUND HERE.
EVEN SOME OUTSIDE HENDERSON COUNTIES COME TO US.
WELL THAT'S NOT TOO MUCH, BUT WE HAVE EVERY POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THIS COUNTY COMES TO US FOR THIS.
DO WE GET REIMBURSEMENT FOR THAT? NO, DO NOT.
WE ARE THE COUNTY AGENCY AND THING WE HAVE CHARGED HIM WITH BEFORE IS, UH, LIKE THE THUMB DRIVES DESK, STUFF LIKE THAT.
IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE COULD PUT I, I ASSUME THAT'S FOR LIKE MAJOR HEINOUS CRIMES STUFF.
MAJORITY OF EVERYTHING THAT'S BEING DONE THESE DAYS.
ANYTHING FROM TAKING PICTURES OF THE CELLS, THE KIDDOS AND STUFF.
AND WE'VE GOTTA PULL THAT INFORMATION AND WHEN THEY PULL IT, THEY PULL EVERYTHING FROM THE PHONE, EVERY IMAGE, EVERY TEXT, MESSAGE, EVERYTHING.
AND THEY DO A, A COMPREHENSIVE COURT TO GIVE TO THAT AGENCY.
MOST OF THESE COURT, THAT'S ANOTHER REASON FOR THAT TRAINING AND GOING THERE AND GET CERTIFIED IS WE TESTIFY IN COURT BASICALLY TESTIFYING PROFESSION, THE EXPERT, EX EXPERT WITNESS, DID IT COST 12,000 PER PERSON? ONE, ONE SCHOOL IS $5,000.
YES, I KNOW THERE'S VERY FEW, BUT IF YOU GOTTA HAVE THAT CERTIFICATION, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO DO.
AND WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE WHICH MEMBER CAPTAIN HE WORKED FOR.
AND THEN CAPTAIN AFTER THEY GET TRAINED IN THAT, THEY GET CERTIFIED.
SOMETIMES THEY DO, SOMETIMES THEY DON'T.
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DO WE OVERCOME THAT? UNLESS ONE, SO, SO FAR GEORGE HADN'T LEFT AND ONLY ERNIE LEFT.SO UNLESS ANYTHING, ANYTIME WE INVEST MONEY INTO ANYBODY, THEY HAVE, MY QUESTION WAS WE, WE TRAIN THEM.
IF WE INVEST 50 IN TRAINING, I, I THINK AND FRED NOT PAYING SALARIES, NOT BE COMMENSURATE WITH THEIR YEAH, I MEAN THE ONLY THING THAT I THINK KEEPS READY, YOU WANNA KNOW THE TRUTH.
HE'S GOT A LOT OF YEARS OF SERVICE.
HE'S HE'S GOT MERIT PAY, HE'S GOT THAT.
AND THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD REASON WHY HE STAYS HERE.
JUST AS A, JUST ASKING IF WE WERE TO DECIDE TO CONTRACT THIS OUT, WHO WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO DO THAT? AND I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULD DO THAT.
I'M JUST WONDERING COMPANY, I FORGOT THE COMPANY.
THE ONLY THING ABOUT THAT WE START CONTRACT THE BROWNELL CASE AND ALL THAT.
WE WAS, WE WERE DOING ALL THAT.
SO WE'RE ABLE TO SPEED THAT WHOLE PROCESS UP.
WELL THAT THAT'S, THAT'S THE KIND OF DATA THAT'S INFORMATION LIKE ON THE BROWN CASE.
SO Y HIS, WE'VE GOT THAT STUFF IN A TIMELY MANNER.
KEEP THE INVESTIGATING MOVING FORWARD INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR SOMEBODY TO GIVE US THAT DATA TO FOLLOW UP ON THE INVESTIGATION.
WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE TO GET IN LINE NOW WE WE'RE THE LINE.
SO, AND WHICH IN THE LAST FEW INVESTIGATIONS, IT HAS HELPED TREMENDOUSLY TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT DATA POSSIBLE TO FOLLOW UP ON.
DOES ASSIST SOME OF OUR SMALLER POLICE DEPARTMENTS AND ALL OUR VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS I GUESS.
WELL, YOU KNOW, WE'RE THE COUNTY.
EVERYBODY FALLS BACK TOWARDS US.
WHAT, WHAT IDEA THAT OR COL ROCKWELL COUNTY DOES? I KNOW COLIN HAS A, A FORENSIC, A FORENSIC PERSON.
I KNOW HENDERSON VAN NOT BE COMPENSATED BY THAT.
I'VE SEEN FROM COUNTY POLICE DEPARTMENT, I'M ALL IFICATION BAD GUY.
BUT SHOULD THEY NOT, IF IT'S GONNA COST US, THEY WOULD'VE TO CONTRACT WOULD THEY NOT? SHOULD THEY NOT ON SOME OF THEIR COSTS FOR ANOTHER COUNTY.
THAT'S SOMETHING NUMBER ON WHAT WE OUTSIDE CONTRACT.
WE JUST ALWAYS, BECAUSE IF WE, WE HELP THEM AND THEY HELP US WHEN WE NEED THEM ON THAT.
SO IT'S ALWAYS BEEN, YOU KNOW, WE HELP EACH OTHER BECAUSE IF WE GET ON A MAN, HUH? WE DO SOMETHING, THEY ALWAYS SEND RESOURCES TO US.
SO IT'S BEEN, WE HELP EACH OTHER OUT.
THAT'S WHAT WE DO IN LAW ENFORCEMENT.
THAT'S WHY WE, YEAH, BUT OUR TAXPAYERS SHOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY FOR THE OTHER CITIZENS IN OTHER TWO COUNTY SHOULDN'T EITHER.
BUT OUR SERVICES, THEIR TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING FOR STUFF.
JUST LIKE WHEN WE HAD BARRICADED PERSON, THEY'RE, THEY'RE WILLING TO BRING THEIR, THEIR CAT OVER HERE TO HELP US.
WHICH THEIR TAXPAYERS IS PAID FOR.
BUT A TWO BROWN, WE HAD OFFICERS FROM EVERY AGENCY AROUND TEXAS THAT WERE HERE DOING 24 7.
YOU KNOW THAT GARDEN PD, MUSK, THE STATE, I MEAN EVERYBODY WAS HERE.
WELL THAT'S, I MEAN THAT'S A GIVEN ON EMERGENCY LIKE THAT I WOULD THINK, YOU KNOW, WE ASSIST THEM ANYWHERE THAT THEY WOULD NEED AS WELL.
WELL THAT'S ACTUALLY JUST LAW ENFORCEMENT IN GENERAL, RIGHT? YOU HELPED ME.
WE'RE GONNA HELP YOU AND TRADE OUT.
YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'VE BEEN, I GUESS, AND CORRECT IF I'M WRONG, WE'VE BEEN TRAINING, YOU KNOW, DOWN AT THE ARMORY FOR OTHER COUNTIES AND STUFF.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
HAVE WE BEEN COMPENSATED FOR THAT? YOU KNOW, OUR TAXPAYERS CAN ONLY GIVE SO MUCH TO OTHER COUNTIES.
THEY'RE REALLY NOT GIVING NOTHING.
UH, THE DEAL IS, IS WE'RE PUTTING ON A CLASS FOR OUR PEOPLE AND THEY'RE BRINGING THEIR PEOPLE OVER.
SO WE'RE GONNA GIVE THE CLASS ANYHOW.
IT'S NOT COSTING NOBODY NOTHING BECAUSE OUR INSTRUCTORS IS OURS.
WE'RE ALREADY PAYING THAT INSTRUCTOR TO GIVE THAT.
WE'VE HAD ANOTHER ONE, HENDERSON COUNTY HAS A FLASH.
IF WE NEED TO SEND SOMEBODY OVER THERE, WE CAN SEND THAT OVER THERE AT NO COST.
WELL THAT WAS GONNA BE MY NEXT QUESTION.
WHY DO WE GET IN RETURN? WE CAN, WE CAN GO TO ANY ONE OF THEIR CLASSES WE ALLOW A OPEN FOR TO COME IN, GET THAT IN THE LONG RUN BACK.
BECAUSE WE, I MEAN IF WE'RE GONNA DO A CLASS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE OUR PEOPLE IN.
IT'S BETTER TO HAVE A CLASS OF 10 THAN, YOU KNOW, WE GET MORE OUT IT WITH EACH STUDENT.
THE FACT IS WE ARE PUTTING THE CLASSES ON FOR RP TRAINING AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH, UH,
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STEVE ON THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TRAINING FOR, I MEAN THESE ARE JUST QUESTIONS.IT'S 26,000 THAT, AND THAT'S WHY RIGHT HERE, NOTED IN THE BOTTOM THIS, THE INCREASE, THE UPGRADE IS 26 OVER HERE.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE PUT THAT IN THERE.
BUT WE HAD TO INCREASE THE THAT TO CATCH THE TIRE.
AND THAT'S WHY WE PUT THE BIDS IN THE IN THERE REASON WE ASK QUESTIONS.
THIS IS A WORKING EXPERIENCE FOR US TO KEEP US REALLY AWARE WHEN WE UP TO EXPLAIN TAXPAYERS WHAT'S GOING ON.
AND I'VE ALWAYS SAID, Y'ALL MORE WELCOME TO COME OUT THERE AND WE'LL SHOW YOU ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT.
THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT YOU SPENT PUTTING THIS TOGETHER FOR US, THIS BREAKS IT OUT.
AND I APPRECIATE THAT PUT FORWARD THAT I KNOW SPENT A LOT OF TIME.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT'S WELL WORTH IT.
IN FACT WE'RE WE'RE AT PAGE BY JUNE.
THINGS ARE LOOKING A LOT BETTER.
SO AS WE GO DOWN THROUGH HERE AND UNLESS ANYBODY SEES ANYTHING, UH, DIFFERENT.
AND YOU'RE GONNA GO THROUGH TAB BY TAB AS WE YES.
THIS IS THE OVERVIEW OF THE BUDGET THAT YOU SEE.
THE, THE NEXT UH, RED ITEM, WHICH WOULD BE THE UH, RADIO REPAIRS.
YOU'LL NOTICE THAT IF YOU'LL GO TO THE FOURTH TAB OR FIFTH TAB, I'M SORRY, IT SAYS QUOTE MIXED VOTERS.
THAT WASN'T DID YOU START VOTING AT WELL I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFERENT, WE KIND OF PUT THIS IN HERE BECAUSE A JUDGE CAN TELL YOU THERE'S A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS KIND OF GOING ON.
WE'RE NOT SURE WHICH WAY WE KIND OF PUT THIS IN HERE TO UPGRADE OUR SYSTEM.
NOW FIRST EXPLAIN THE VOTING SYSTEM.
THAT'S WHAT I, THE UPGRADED SYSTEM.
WE, NOW YOU NOTICE WE HAD TO GO TO NARROW BAND.
WE HAD, WE SPENT THAT MONEY FOR NARROW BANNING.
WE GOT THAT DONE AND WE'RE UP AND RUNNING.
THE NEXT STEP THAT WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO WITH THAT SYSTEM IS TO IMPROVE THE COVERAGE WE HAVE WAY UP IN PRECINCT THREE, TAKE KNEE.
DO WE HAVE VERY HARD PROBLEMS UP THERE? TRAVIS RANCH, WE HAVE A PROBLEM DOWN THERE.
SOUTH WE HAVE A PROBLEM, UH, WITH RADIO COVER, ESPECIALLY PORTABLE COVER.
AND THE MOST TIME THE OFFICER NEEDS SOMEBODY IS USUALLY IT WHEN THEY'RE ON THE GROUND WITH A PORT.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO IMPROVE THAT FOCUS SYSTEM WANTS TO DO IS HE PUT IT ON A WATER, WE DON'T HAVE TO BUILD THE TIRES OR NOTHING.
AND WHAT IT DOES IS IT RECEIVES THAT SO BIG RECEIVER AND THEN IT SENDS IT THROUGH THE AIR BACK TO, TO THIS REPEATER WHERE YOU CAN HEAR IT AND IT INCREASES YOUR COVERAGE OF THE COUNTY 10 TIMES BETTER.
AND THE VOTING SYSTEM MEANS THAT IT GOES, IT GOES, IT WANTS TO GO TO RIGHT, IT VOTES TO GO TO THAT.
AND IT'S NOT CHANGING FREQUENCY OR NOT HAVING TO CHANGE THE RADIO.
WE CAN PUT REPEATERS EVERYWHERE, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO REMEMBER WHAT REPEATERS YOU'RE CLOSE TO.
A VOTING SYSTEM TAKES ALL THAT INFORMATION.
WHEN THE RADIO KEYS IT, IT PICKS THE CLOSEST AND SENDS IT BACK TO THE MAIN REPEATER, WHICH IS DISPATCH.
AND THAT'S ONE SYSTEM THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AT THE NINE POINT SYSTEM.
BUT THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS OUT THERE.
THERE THERE'S OTHER OPTIONS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
NOW THIS IS JUST ONE OPTION THROWING IN HERE.
I JUST DUMPED THIS IN IN HERE BECAUSE WE HAVE THE OTHER OPTION NOT DOING AND THAT'S THE JUMPING ON BOARD WITH CORN AND TAR ON OUR 700 SYSTEMS. THE THING ABOUT THAT IS THEY'VE ALREADY GOT TWO TIRES THAT WILL COVER THAT IN AND WITH THE TIRE OF EACH TEXAS WE HAVE, WE CAN JUMP ON THAT ANYTIME WE'VE GOT PERMISSION, WHICH TEXAS MEDICAL MEDICAL CENTER TIRE BEHIND THE LAW ENFORCEMENT CENTER, WE CAN GET ON THAT ANY TIME.
THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER SITE FOR 700, 800 THAT WOULD COVER THE OTHER END OF THE COUNTY WITH DIGITAL 700.
AND THEY COULD USE THEIR EQUIPMENT THAT THEY'VE ALREADY PAID FOR.
WOULD THAT WORK WITH ALL THE NEW RADIOS WE JUST UPGRADED LAST YEAR?
WHY? BECAUSE THEY'RE PAGING SYSTEM.
THEIR PAGING 700 DOES NOT PAGE, YOU'LL GO TO TERRA WITH THEIR NEW SYSTEM IN NEY.
THEY HAVE TO KEEP THAT OPEN JUST TO SEND A PAGE.
THEY PAGE IT ACTIVATES THEIR STATIONS OR UH, PAGERS AND THEN THEY TALK ON 700.
THAT'S HOW THEY, THEY'RE NOT A SYSTEM THAT DOES EVERYTHING.
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PAGERS WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT.SO YOU WOULD'VE TO MAINTAIN THAT.
YEAH, AS FAR AS, AND I'M SURE THAT, BUT THAT'S ALREADY THERE.
THERE'S NOTHING MORE TO DO TO THAT SYSTEM AT THIS POINT.
BUT IF WE GO TO THE 700 SERIES, WHICH TERRIBLE POINT ALREADY DONE RIGHT THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY THAT WE CAN PIGGYBACK ON THEIR SYSTEM.
AND WHICH WOULD LOWER THE COST OF OUR SYSTEM.
I WOULD THINK SO OVERALL BECAUSE IF WE DID OUR SYSTEM WITHOUT PIGGYBACKING, THEN WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT THREE TIRES.
SO I THINK TARA HAS PRETTY WELL AGREED TO DO BETTER.
I THINK THE DISCUSSIONS, THE DISCUSSIONS THAT ARE, ARE OUT.
THE MEETING WE HAD, THE DISCUSSIONS WERE THERE THAT WE COULD WORK WITH OUR SYSTEM.
WELL I THOUGHT THEY AGREED TO DO ALL THAT.
WE THAT'S FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE BILL AND THE EC CENTER IS NOT THE EQUIPMENT.
RIGHT? WHAT? SO WHAT KIND OF TIME ON THAT DO YOU THINK? THEY SAID TWO WEEKS, TWO TO THREE WEEKS.
WE JUST DIVIDED THE REST OF THE MOBILE PORTABLE.
THEY'RE THAT AND THEN THEY BREAK DOWN AND WE A BREAKDOWN HOPING TWO THREE.
ROCKWELL COUNTY I THINK IS DOING EXACTLY THE SAME THING EXCEPT IN ROCKWELL COUNTY THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR THE FIRST TWO YEARS THE COUNTY WOULD PAY THE ENTIRE EXPENSE.
WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT EVEN GOING THERE.
BUT THEN IN TWO YEARS THE CITIES AND THE OTHER JURISDICTION WILL PAID FOR.
AND THE 9 1 1 FOLKS IN COG ARE TRYING TO GET US TO GO TO THE ONE PSAP PUBLIC SERVICE AND POSITION.
UH, BUT IT DOES TAKE OUR OFFICERS OUT AND OUR FIREFIGHTERS
SO I MEAN SHARING INFORMATION IS PROVID.
EVERYBODY IN ONE AREA SHARE THE INFORMATION PASSED ON IN A TIMELY, WHERE NOW WHY DIDN'T WE DO THIS LAST YEAR IF WE KNEW IT WAS GONNA BE, 'CAUSE WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT LAST YEAR.
ANOTHER NEW ONE THIS YEAR OR NEXT YEAR, WHATEVER.
THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE WE HAD A DEADLINE ON NARROW.
WE TRIED THE 700 WAY BACK AND IT FAILED.
THEN WE HAD TO UPGRADE OUR SYSTEM.
WE WAS MANDATED OR WE HAD TO TURN IT OFF.
THAT'S WHY EVERYTHING WE GOT WENT TO AIR.
AND THAT'S WHY WE REPEAT THAT'S WHAT WE FOR REPEAT.
BUT STILL WORKING TO THIS DAY WORKING BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO KEEP IT FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
THE SAME THING WITH THAT IS DOWN THE ROAD WE MIGHT PAY THIS IN WHERE ONLY THE SHERIFF OFFICE DOES IT.
AND LIKE SAYING, I'M JUST TALKING HERE, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GONNA DO THIS AS A GROUP.
IF WE'RE GONNA DO SHERIFF'S OFFICE FIRST AND THEN WHAT THE PDS WILL COME ON AS THEY CAN.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO KEEP THAT RAIL.
SO IT'S A SYSTEM THAT'S GONNA OLD SYSTEM ONE WE HAVE NOW.
WELL IF WE HAVE TO PHASE IT IN AND IN SERIES, WE'LL HAVE TO DO THAT.
BUT THE SYSTEM STILL, WE'LL STILL BE ABLE TO USE THAT SYSTEM.
IT'S NOT LIKE WE OWN MONEY AWAY AT ALL.
WE HAD TO THE DEADLINE, THE STATE MANDATED THAT OR WE WAS GONNA HAVE TO CUT.
WE WOULDN'T HAVE BE BECAUSE
IF I OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD AND I DON'T HAVE TO LOOK ANYMORE.
AND WE DID THAT 5, 6, 7 YEARS AGO AND WE WAS TALKING ABOUT UPGRADING RADIO SYSTEM.
I WANNA SAY PUT THE IN AND EVERYTHING LIKE 5.2.
THIS ESTIMATE HERE, YOU GOT TWO ESTIMATES.
WE'VE GOT ONE FROM HUFFMAN AND THE OTHER ONE'S FROM D FW.
YEAH, BUT I JUST, AT 2000, WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT GIVE US THERE? EVERYTHING RIGHT HERE, THE P 25, THE BOLTING SYSTEMS, ALL THIS TO COMMUNICATE FROM THE CABLES AND EVERYTHING.
UH, DFW DIDN'T SLIDE NEAR THE DETAIL THAT HUFFMAN DID.
SO THAT'S WHAT I I LOOKING TO YOU RIGHT.
AND HUFFMAN DID A REALLY GOOD BREAKDOWN.
UH, YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THE SYSTEM IF YOU READ THE WHOLE BACK OF DFW, IT KIND OF EXPLAINS A LITTLE BETTER HOW A BOULDER SYSTEM WORKS.
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TELLS YOU THE GATEWAYS AND COMPUTERS, IT'S GOTTA BE USED BECAUSE IT'S ALL RUN THROUGH COMPUTERS.SO HUFFMAN'S TOTAL BID IS 102,006 OR DOES IT INCLUDE NO, YOU'VE GOT INCLUDES THESE OTHER, RIGHT.
YOU'VE GOTTA ADD IT'S 102 PLUS SIX RIGHT HERE.
SITE ADD A 1 0 2 FOR THE NEW GRAND TOTAL.
SO YOU'VE GOTTA ADD HOW MANY SITES WERE DESIRED ITEMS BE 62.
SO IF YOU ADDED ONE SIDE, IT WOULD BE THAT TOTAL OF 1 64, 5 74.
BUT IT DOESN'T, IT DOES NOT INCLUDE ALL THESE OTHER SUB NO.
I MEAN IT'S GOT THIS BUT SIDE ADDITIONAL 62.
AND HE'S SAYING WE NEED THREE SIDE.
SO, AND THEN WE PUT THAT, LIKE I SAY THE TO IN THAT GRID.
AND AS PART OF THAT IS A 3.1, THREE TIMES SIX, TWO PLUS SIX.
AND AS PART OF SETTING THE 9 1 1 CENTER UP EACH PAY TOWARDS THESE COSTS.
THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IS HOWARD, OBVIOUSLY THE COUNTY WILL BE THE LARGEST, I THINK OUR POPULATION 50%.
SO THEY'RE GOING, THEY'RE GOING PAY THAT PART, THEIR PART ON THIS SYSTEM AND, AND THE OPERATION.
YEAH, I MEAN, I MEAN WE'D HAVE TO BREAK THAT OUT.
THE OPERATIONAL COST TO DO THAT.
MAKE SURE WE ABOUT, IF WE, AND WE'RE KIND OF WAITING TO SEE HOW THIS OTHER MEMBER SYSTEM LOOKS.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THREE VOTERS ALSO.
BUT IT'S NOT AS DETAILED AS IT'S NOT, THAT'S JUST A FUZZY ESTIMATE.
AND THERE WILL ONLY, UH, RIGHT NOW WE'RE DISPATCHING, UH, EXCEPT NY AND UH, FORNEY SAID INITIALLY THEY WILL PROBABLY WILL NOT PARTICIPATE.
I BE I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE LOOKING AT COMING INTO THE SYSTEM DOWN ROAD.
THE ISSUE BECOMES IS THAT YOU'RE DISPATCHING FOR SOME REASONS AND NOT FOR OTHERS.
AND SO THIS IS A WAY TO BRING EVERYBODY AGAIN, THE SAME WAY I THINK WITH JAIL WE CHARGE, UH, I DON'T THINK WE, WE DON'T CHARGE C THAT WAS PART OF THE AGREEMENT.
WELL, NOBODY CAN FIND THAT AGREEMENT.
I, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS 10 YEARS THAT BEFORE THE TIME I MADE CHIEF AND WE'VE BEEN TRYING, THE CITY CAN'T LOCATE IT.
UH, WE CAN'T LOCATE LOCATE OFFICE OR MAYBE WE CAN FIND SOMEBODY WELL THAT THEY WERE LOOKING IN MINUTES BECAUSE APPARENTLY GET A, BECAUSE THEY TOOK OUT INSIDE OF THEIR JAIL OVER THERE.
SO THEY HAD TO DO SOME CONSTRUCTION COST.
SO THEY'RE TRYING TO LOOK IN THEIR MINUTES TO SEE WHEN THE COUNCIL APPROVED THAT OVER THERE.
SO, BUT WE DON'T CHARGE I THINK FOR, UH, FOR HOLDING THEIR, WE DON'T DON'T CHARGE.
IF THEY DECIDE TO GO TO MAYBANK INSTEAD OF, I MEAN YEAH, YEAH.
MAYBANK GOES TO THEIR, THEIR THEIR COUNTY SPLIT.
IF THEY GO TO
I'M ALREADY IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING THE CONTRACT AND WORKING ON THAT.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING, WE'LL AFTER WE DO THIS, LOOK AT IT, EVALUATE IT, SEE WHAT, SAME WAY WITH THE CITY OF RIGHT.
THE, THE ONLY ONES THAT WE'RE MANDATED TO TAKE IS CLASS.
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WE'RE MANDATED.SO THE VERY REASONABLE, ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE STARTED AGO IS THE FACT THAT WE NEEDED TO UPGRADE.
UH, AND THEN ALSO IT'S A WAY OF BRINGING EVERYBODY INTO ONE PIECE, TO ONE PUBLIC SERVICE
AND WE WOULD A BETTER EFFECTIVE SYSTEM IN CONTACT WITH EVERYBODY WHERE, SO THAT WAS THE REASON WE STARTED INITIALIZING THIS THING ABOUT THE SAME TIME WHEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THAT, THAT'S WHEN THE ARMORY WAS PRESENTED BACK TO.
AND THAT'S THE, THAT'S KIND HISTORY.
BUT IT DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE FAIR.
WE TALKED ABOUT BEING MARRIED TO TAXPAYERS AND I'M, I'M COUNTYWIDE SO I CAN GUESS I CAN GET IN TROUBLE FOR SAYING THIS, BUT WHAT'S FAIR ABOUT CITY OF TAR, CITY OF CORN, OF PAYING FOR THE DISPATCH FOR THE OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTY SHOULD AND THEY'VE NOT UP.
THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT MEETINGS I'VE HEARD ABOUT, I THINK THEY UNDERSTAND THAT TO AN UPGRADED SYSTEM.
AND EVERYBODY DISPATCH, EMERGENCY SYSTEM GOES DOWN'S.
BUILDING A NEW JAIL AREN'T YEAH.
AND DIDN'T I UNDERSTAND RIGHT.
SAY THAT THEY'RE HAVING THEIR OWN RADIO EQUIPMENT IN THERE.
THEY'RE JUST WAITING ON US TO MAKE, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, UNDERSTANDING CHIEF IS HUNDRED PERCENT ON BOARD IS WHAT HE'S TELLING US.
BUT THEY'RE STILLING THAT AND THAT WILL BE A BACKUP FOR CITY.
WE, WE GOTTA HAVE A BACKUP SYSTEM TO FALL BACK.
FOR SOME REASON SOMETHING HAPPENS.
AND WHAT YOU UTILIZE THEM ARE FARM.
I TALKED TO CHIEF LAY SPECIFICALLY AND I TALKED WITH HAL AND I TALKED WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND THEY'RE ON BOARD.
THEY'RE JUST WORRIED THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA DO IT.
AND I'VE MADE A COMMITMENT TO THEM WE'RE THAT'S MY COMMITMENT.
HOW DO WE GO ABOUT DOING IT? THAT'S WHAT THE DEVIL IS IN DETAIL.
AND I, I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT'S THE WAY IT'S BE DONE NOW OR LATER.
AND COUNCIL GOVERNMENTS, THEIR NINE ONE SERVICE, THE PEOPLE THAT CAME AND SPOKE TO IT JUST MAKES SENSE TO ME TO DO, UH, FACILITY.
THEY'RE LOOKING AT CONSTRUCTING OVER IN ROCKWELL I THINKS PROBABLY 10.
WE'RE GONNA, I DUNNO ABOUT THIS.
I DON'T SEE WHAT THE ISSUE IS WHENEVER IT COMES TO PUBLIC SAFETY AND PUBLIC SERVICE.
WE HAD A OFFICER OR A FIREFIGHTER THAT GOT KILLED BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T COMMUNICATE.
I JUST, I CAN'T, I JUST BECAUSE WE WANTED TO PUT OFF DOING SOMETHING THAT IS IN, ESPECIALLY IF OUR COUNTY GROWS AS PROJECTED TO GROW THESE COSTS ARE NOT GONNA, SO I MEAN THAT'S JUST MY, MY WAY.
MY CONCERN IS WE JUMPED INTO IT WITHOUT SOME WRITTEN COMMITMENT FROM THE OTHER CITIES.
I KNOW WE HAVE VERBAL COMMITMENTS, ALL THAT.
BUT YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE PEOPLE ARE ELECTED OR APPOINTED.
WELL THE REASON WE DON'T HAVE WRITTEN SOME OF THEM IS OF COURSE THE PLAN STILL PUT TOGETHER.
BUT THOSE, THOSE OTHER PEOPLE, SO WHEN THEY READ THAT, SURE.
SO I MEAN THAT'S IF THERE'S TWO SIDES TO THAT STORY.
BUT THAT'S, IT JUST MAKES SENSE FOR ME TO DO IT.
IF IT'S THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO DO IT FOR ALL THE CITIES AND ALL THE COUNTIES.
MAKE SURE THEY PARTICIPATE AT THE LEVEL THAT THEY PROMISED EVERY INDICATION I'VE HAD THING I'VE HAD THAT I'M RECEIVING ON.
SO WE LOOK GRANT THIS OR STEVE, STEVE HAS, THERE'S VERY LITTLE OUT THERE ANYHOW.
IT'S JUST LIKE THE
THAT'S A FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR US.
I'M SORRY TO SAY THEY PASSED EVERYTHING DOWN TO THE COUNTY.
AND BY POSTPONE IT LIKE WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST THERE MONEY, IT'S ALL USED UP NOW.
IF WE'VE DONE THIS 10 OR 12 YEARS AGO, WE COULD HAVE GOT SOMEBODY NOW THE GRANT MONEY FOR NINE 11, IT'S NOT THERE ANYMORE.
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ELLIS COUNTY, YOU KNOW THE PLAN THAT STEVE'S WORKING ON, THE MITIGATION HAZARD LITIGATION, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT STILL HASN'T BEEN APPROVED.IT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN PRESENTED BUT IT HASN'T BEEN PURSUED OR THAT HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED.
EDS COUNTY HAS HAD A HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN FOR LONGER THAN REHAB AND THEY RECENTLY WERE A AWARDED $180,000 GRANT FROM THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS TO INCLUDE THEIR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER AND THEIR DISPATCH CENTER.
AND I CALLED THE HEAD OF THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT, NOT THAT I'M UPSET AT VIS COUNTY, THEY DOING THEIR TONIGHT, BUT I CALLED MIKE EASTLAND THE OF COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT AND EXPRESSED, YOU KNOW WHAT ABOUT KNOW ANYTHING THIS, SO, YOU KNOW, THE OLD STORY ABOUT SUSPICIOUS WHEEL GETS GREASE AND I'M ON BOTH THE COMMITTEES.
I'M ON THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS COMMITTEE AND I'M ON THE 9 1 1 COMMITTEE.
AND UH, THEY KNOW WE'RE, THEY KNOW WE HAVE NOT BEEN TREATED LIKE WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN TREATED.
AND I DON'T, I THINK THAT'S OUR FAULT THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE WITH YOU.
BUT WE WERE NOT AT THE DOOR WHEN WE SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO.
THEY DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE OUT HERE.
YEAH, BUT THEY DIDN'T BECAUSE THERE WAS NOBODY SITTING AT THE TABLE.
YEAH, WE WERE NOT, WE WERE NOT REPRESENTED.
NOR WERE WE REALLY, UH, KNOWING WHERE THE GRANTS WERE AND HOW LARGE HE WORKED.
AND I PROMISE THE FAMILY IS LOOKING EVERY DAY AND KNOW DAY SOMETHING.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE ACTIVELY WORKING THAT.
AND UH, BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF BRIEF HISTORY.
THERE'S STATE FUNDS AVAILABLE, THE STATE FUNDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE IS THAT IS THE MONEY, YOU KNOW THAT THE LADY CAME OVER AND TALKED TO US, THE 9 1 1 AND WHAT THAT DOES IS JUST GET THE 9 1 1 SERVICE DELIVERED TO THE BUILDING.
THAT'S WHERE THAT FEMALE GOES.
NOW I HOPE THAT WHENEVER THE, IF THAT LEGISLATION GETS PASSED AND THEN JIM ALLISON WAS HERE UH, THE OTHER DAY.
HE SAID THEY SHOULD, YOU KNOW, THE WAY UH, THE WAS LOOKING AT IT, THEY WERE JUST GONNA LET THE MONIES THAT WERE DOWN THERE SAID WHY THE, THAT DEDICATED FOR 9 1 1.
UH, AND SO HE WAS LOOKING AT HAVING THAT MONEY DISTRIBUTED AS WELL.
BUT RIGHT NOW MY UNDERSTANDING, BASED ON WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD, THAT MONEY CAN ONLY GO THE TO THE NINE ONE CENTER.
IT CANNOT BE USED FOR EQUIPMENT.
BUT MAY THAT BE LIKE TOWERS AND STUFF, WHAT THAT TOWER'S GONNA COST TO BUILD UP HERE.
WE WON'T HAVE TO BUILD TOWER THE TOWER'S ALREADY OUT THERE AT THE, OH, THE ARMY NOW THAT, THAT TIRE WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO BUILD.
'CAUSE WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS IF WE HAVE TO BUILD ANYTHING, IT'S JUST GONNA BE UNDER A HUNDRED FOOT.
WHICH IS NOT GONNA BE KIND OF LIKE IF YOU AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, YOU'LL LOOK AT THE BACK, UH, LEFT SIDE OF THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING, YOU'LL SEE A VERY SMALL ANTENNA.
THE WAY THE CONSOLE SYSTEM WORKS IS IT'S ALL ELECTRONIC.
EVERYTHING'S HARDWIRED TO A RADIO IN THE CONTROL ROOM.
AND WHAT THAT DOES IS THAT CONTROL THAT GETS THAT PORTABLE OR THAT MOBILE RADIO, IT KEYS IT AND SENDS IT OVER TO PEOPLE.
SO IT'D BE THE SAME CONCEPT OVER HERE.
WE TALKED ABOUT THAT WITH THIS CENTER WITH JARS AND ALSO TALKING ABOUT A, A PAIR OF LINES RUNNING ACROSS THERE.
BUT MY CONCERN IS WE GOTTA BE REDUNDANT IN WHICHEVER WAY WE'VE DONE, WE'VE BEEN OUT THERE BEFORE AND, AND LOST OUR INTERNET, NOT OUR VEHICLE.
ONCE WE START GOING THIS FAR, WE GOTTA MAKE SURE WE GOT A REDUNDANT SYSTEM TO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT CUT BY SOMEBODY.
WE'VE GOT LIVE SIDE WORK, BUT THERE SHOULDN'T BE NO BIG COPPER.
IF ANYTHING IT'S A VERY SMALL TIRE.
JUST PUT BECAUSE WE'RE ON THAT BIG FOUR 20 AND THAT'D THE SAME THING.
THEY ALREADY PAID FOR THE TWO DOWN THERE.
THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THAT VEHICLE TIRE.
'CAUSE IF WE HADN'T HAD THAT TIRE WHEN WE NARROW, BECAUSE NARROW CUTS THE WAY HAD AND WHEN THEY DO THAT WE, WE WERE GOING LOSE HALF BECAUSE THAT TOWER, THERE'S ONLY TWO OH FOOT, BUT WE GOT TO GO UP THAT HIGH.
SO WHEN WE WENT IN OUR BAND, WE DIDN'T LOSE HARDLY ANY COVERS.
IT WHAT WE GOT FAR AS MOW WE GONNA
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LOSE WHILE WE, SO LUCKILY THAT COME INTO THAT HELPED A LOT.AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TOWER AT THE COUNTY FARM? YEAH.
YES, THAT'S WHERE WE WAS ORIGINALLY LOCATED AND THE TOWER FOR EAST TEXAS.
BETTER AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE BEHIND.
SO YOU CURRENTLY OPERATE OFF OF BOTH OF THEM? NO, WE OPERATE OFF OF THE MAIN, THE SCHOOL.
I THINK THE SCHOOL STILL HAS A OVER THERE AND I THINK GEORGE STILL HAS SOME STUFF SENDING THE INTERNET THROUGH THE UNDERSTANDING.
HE'S STILL RUNNING SOME, PUSHING SOME STUFF AROUND.
AND THE THING ABOUT IT TOO, WITH THE 700, I'LL GO AHEAD AND AND RUN ACROSS THAT REAL QUICK IF YOU DON'T MIND.
WE'RE TRYING TO, TO GET FREQUENCIES, FREQUENCIES ARE VERY HARD TO COVER THE PEOPLE'S TAKING DEAL.
IF YOU LOOK AT 700 WITH THE TRUMPING AND THE COMPUTER SYSTEM THAT IT CAN DO, YOU CAN TAKE TWO CHANNELS AND RUN LIKE 30 DIFFERENT CHANNELS OFF TWO FREQUENCIES.
SO YOU ONLY GOTTA GET TWO FREQUENCIES.
UH, THAT'S THE THING ABOUT THE NEW AGE 700 AND DOING THAT, UH, WHERE NOW VHF YOU GOTTA CHANNEL FOR EACH ONE AND IT'S HARD TO GET CHANNELS.
WE'RE TRYING, WE'VE GOT THE, SO WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET FIRE ANOTHER CHANNEL WHERE WE CAN SPLIT THAT BECAUSE IF YOU GET A BIG FIRE IN THE COUNTY, DISPATCH HAS A HARD TIME BECAUSE WE HAVE EVERYBODY ON IT FROM THE SOUTH END TO THE
SO IT'S A, IT'S A ISSUE WE'RE TRYING TO GET THAT AT THIS POINT, WE CAN'T GET ANYBODY TO RELIEVE A CHANNEL.
IF WE DO FIND ONE, WE HAVE TO DO A, A STUDY.
IF ANYBODY'S GOT AROUND, WE'RE GONNA IMPACT AND AND THEY GOTTA AGREE TO LET US USE IT.
IF THEY DON'T AGREE TO LOVE YOU, WE CAN.
IT IS WORKING RIGHT NOW, BUT DOWN THE ROAD IT'S GONNA BE HARD FOR US TO GROW.
WE CAN TAKE VERY FEW CHANNELS AND THEY CAN RUN IT TO A TRUNKING SYSTEM AND YOU CAN HAVE MULTICHANNELS TO RUN THROUGH.
WOULDN'T WE BE ABLE TO USE LIKE TAR HAS A CHANNEL? YES.
THEIR FREQUENCY, THEY'VE GOT MY UNDERSTANDING THE OTHER DAY I DON'T HAVE MY NOTES.
I BELIEVE TERRELL'S GOT FOUR AND FORNEY'S GOT FOUR.
UH, MOST OF THE SEVEN HUNDREDS HAVE BEEN TAKEN UP IN THE COUNTY.
SO NOW WE'VE GOTTA EITHER USE THEIRS OR TRY TO FIND TWO.
I'M TRYING TO WORK WITH THESE TEXAS, I'VE KNOWN THESE TEXAS FOR A LONG TIME.
I'VE DEALT WITH THEM A LONG TIME.
I THINK I CAN GET TWO CHANNELS AND THINGS BECAUSE THEY GRABBED EVERYTHING UP THAT WAS LEFT EAST TEXAS BANK MEDICAL.
SO I I'M WORKING WITH THEM TO TRY GRAB TWO CHANNELS, TWO GOTTA GET THAT THEY GRABBED THEM UP AND AFTER THAT TIME THEY SET OUT PRACTICE.
EAST TEXAS IS GOOD AS GOING OUT THERE AND I KNOW EAST TEXAS TALKED TO THE GUY COMMISSIONER, THEY COME OUT HERE TALK TO US ABOUT GETTING ON HOLD WITH US ON, ON THE RADIO.
THEY ACTUALLY DISPATCH HUNT COUNTY DISPATCH COUNTY DON'T EVEN GO INTO HUNT COUNTY VERY LITTLE.
HE TALKING ABOUT DISPATCHING FOREST.
I DUNNO IF WE'D WANT THEM TO DISPATCH FOREST TEXAS NOW THEY DO, THEY DO A COMPANY OUT CALIFORNIA, THEY, THEY ANSWER THEIR 9 1 1 CALIFORNIA.
I DUNNO IF I PHONE LINE, WELL I SOMETHING WE LOOK AT, I AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, GET REMOVED ON EVERYTHING ELSE WE CAN.
I BELIEVE THEY ATTENDED SOME OF MEETING WE BROUGHT IN EARLY ON.
SO I'M I THE GUY YOU TALKED TO MAY NOT AWARE OF THAT BUT I AGREE WE NEED KEEP THEM RIGHT.
THEY'RE ALWAYS TRYING LOOK ANYTHING WE DO BECAUSE ULTIMATELY WE'VE GOTTA SEND EVERYTHING TO THEM THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AND UH, THEN WE GOTTA SEND SO CAREFUL.
I ALWAYS CARE IF THERE'S SOMETHING.
WE DISPATCH IT DEPENDS ON WHO CALLS.
THE FIRE DEPARTMENT GETS THERE FIRST AND THEY CALL US
WE, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DISPATCH.
SO IT'S, IT'S A VARIABILITY OF WORKING BETWEEN EACH OTHER.
SO EAST TEXAS CURRENTLY DISPATCHES FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT? NO, NO, NO, I'M JUST SAYING HE, HE'S SAYING THAT BUT WE, IT DEPENDS ON THE FIRE DEPART CAUSE FOR AIR FIRST, BUT WE JUST, THEY WE DISPATCH FOR ALL THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS.
ONLY THING THAT WE DO IS IF WE TAKE A MEDICAL CALL, OUR PERSONNEL ARE NOT TRAINED IN MEDICAL, GIVE THEM MEDICAL ADVICE, OTHER PEOPLE ARE AND THEN WE TRANSFER THE CALL, LISTEN,
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GET ALL THE INFORMATION IN DEPARTMENT AND THEN IS TRANSFERRED TO EAST TEXAS, EAST TEXAS AND THEN THEY DISPATCH THEIR AMBULANCE.THEY HAVE A TRAIN SHOWING WHERE THE DEER, YEAH THEY GOT A L AND THEY, THEY DO WHAT THEY CALL, UH, THESE TWO AMBULANCES HERE GET BUSY ON OTHER CALL THE TRUCK DOWN, THEY'LL POSITION THEIR TRUCKS FARNEY POSITION LIKE A WORKSHOP SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE.
WELL AGAIN, THEY KNOW THAT THEY'VE ATTENDED SEVERAL THESE MEETINGS.
I BELIEVE THEY'VE BEEN AWARE OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, BUT EVERYTHING'S KIND OF STILL ON THE TABLE.
BUT UH, SOME POINT TIME WE PULL PLEASE WE CAN INTO A LITTLE FINANCIAL BIN, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF FINANCING THIS IS THERE NOT? YES, YES, THAT'S THAT DOWN.
ALL RIGHT, SO AND THEN I GUESS THE, THE NEXT RED ON, UNLESS ANYBODY HAS ANYTHING THERE GONNA BE SIR, JUST CURIOSITY, THE MOBILE RADIO, WERE WE LOSING 28,007 20 SPENT? NO, WE HAVE, WE HAVE SPENT, WE'VE GOT SOME THAT WE'VE DONE SOME POS THEY JUST HAVEN'T COME IN AND WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT YET.
BUT IF YOU'LL NOTICE THE 20, THE 28, UH, THAT WAS A LINE ITEM ON TRANSFER THAT YOU MEMBER THAT, UH, OUR SROS IN OR THEY WENT TO 700.
OUR PEOPLE CANNOT COMMUNICATE AND THEIR FIRST UH, BACKUP IS THE CITY OF CORN TO HELP US AT SCHOOL.
UH, SO WE HAD TO BUY FIVE RADIOS AND THEY HAD TO BE AND OUR 28 AND THIS WAY GIVES COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE BUILDING.
SO A ONE TIME EXPERIENCE, THAT WAS A ONE TIME, THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING BACK TO FIVE.
THAT'S WHY WE'LL GO BACK TO SEVEN, FIVE.
PAY PAY HALF THAT OR SOMETHING.
ALL I KNOW IS HIGH FOR COST, COST OF DOING BUSINESS, WE HAD TO DO HAVE
THE NEW UH, CONSTABLE OVER THERE I THINK IS WORKING WITH THEM, THE CITY OF FORNEY TO GET A HAND RADIO.
BUT YEAH, THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE HAVE, WE HAVE SOME RAIN WATER DEALS BUT THEY HAVEN'T, BUT WE HAVE SPENT, I DUNNO WHY THE 20 ONE'S NOT THERE.
I I KNOW WE'VE DONE ON WHAT YES, MOBILE RADIOS HAS OF SIX 14, WE PICKED 24 3 8 LEFT AND WE STILL WE SOME HAND ONE TIME.
THAT IS THE ONE TIME YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 48 53.
WE NEED FIND OUT WHERE THAT'S AT.
BUT YEAH, IT, IT DID HERE ON THIS ONE, ON THE, THE LAST ONE I JUST PRINTED, IT'S IN THE ENCUMBER FORM SO OH, IT'S, THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT SHOWING.
THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT, THAT'S WHY I PRINTED ME A BACK SHEET AS THE OKAY.
BUT YES, THAT'S A ONE TIME DEAL AND WE PULLED THAT, IT DIDN'T COME OUT OF JANUARY.
WE PULLED THAT OUT OF SALARY, PUT THAT DOWN THERE BECAUSE WE HAD OPENING AND THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE WE HAS MONEY TO CATCH THAT.
SO IF WE DIDN'T COME BACK AND GET ANY MONEY, WE'D GET PULLED OUTTA OUR BOAT.
THE NEXT, NEXT BIG ISLAND YOU'LL SEE IS CARS NOT.
AND YOU CAN GO TO, WHAT IS IT, THE FOURTH TAB, WHICH IT SAYS FIVE 60 PATROL FLEET.
UH, WE GIVE YOU A LIST OF THE, REMEMBER LAST YEAR WE REPLACED TWO CANINE UNITS, TWO UH, ANIMAL CONTROL VEHICLE.
SO WE HAD FIVE VEHICLES THAT WE PURCHASED LAST YEAR.
THE ONE WAS PAID FOR BY THE, UH, MUD DISTRICT.
REMEMBER WHEN WE ENTERED WITH THAT CONTRACT.
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IT'S BEEN PAID OVER THREE YEARS IN FARMS. SO THE REPLACEMENT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, AND I KNOW THIS IS A BIG NUMBER, UH, BUT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO PRESENT THIS ALL TO YOU EXACTLY WHERE OUR CARS ARE STANDING.UH, THE K NINE UNIT, THE TWO TWO 2007, UH, WORKING WITH, UH, JACK, THE COST TO GET THESE OUTFITTED INTO US.
THE ONLY THING THAT WILL NOT INCLUDE IS THE RADIO.
BECAUSE WE HAVE THE RADIO WOULD BE, UH, A TOTAL OF 96,000 EACH, UH, ON THE VEHICLES.
AND THAT'S EVERYTHING READY WHEN IT'S HERE.
ALL PUT STICKERS ON IT, PUT THE RADIO ON IT AND IT GOES FOUR YES.
YEAH, THAT'S, AND THEN IN THE PATROL VEHICLE, IF YOU'LL LOOK AT THE UH, 10 DOWN THERE, UH, ALL THE UNITS 44 9 2 9 4 9 5, EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE PRESENTING IS OVER 120.
OUR BIG CONCERNS ABOUT THIS IS, IS OFFICER SAFETY MORE OR LESS THE DRIVING PLUS THE GENERAL PUBLIC OF DRIVING DOWN THESE ROADS AND KNOWING THESE VEHICLES THIS BAD.
WE DON'T KNOW IF SOMETHING'S GONNA BREAK FRONT END AND WE'LL HIT THE TRAVELING PUBLIC.
IF NOT RUN OFF THE ROAD AND HURT OUR DAD.
AND THEN ON THE BACK SEAT OF THAT, YOU'LL SEE OUR PATROL UH, ARE THESE CARS STILL IN DAILY USE OR ARE THEY HERE, HERE YOU GO.
I I I HAD AN IDEA THAT IT MIGHT COME UP.
OKAY, WHERE DOES SHE GO? GUESS I'LL TAKE HERS.
INSTRUC MYSELF ONE IF YOU, IF YOU'LL LOOK AT THAT, THAT, SO PATROL FLEET THAT'S IN LIGHT, UH, THAT IS OUR FIRST VEHICLE IF YOU'LL NOTICE THAT, UH, THE ONES IN YELLOWS ARE SPARE ONES THAT WE HAVE TO PARTS TO REPLACE.
THE OTHER ONES IS WHEN THEY'RE GETTING OIL CHANGED OR SOMETHING AND YOU'LL SEE THE MILEAGE THAT WAS RUN LAST MONTH.
THE ONLY MILEAGE THAT IS DIFFERENT, YOU'LL SEE THE ASTERISKS OUT TO THE RIGHT ON THE SPARE CARS.
THAT'S OVER A TWO MONTH PERIOD ON END.
SO DIFFERENT SPARE CARS, THE OTHER THREE ARE DOWN.
WE BELIEVE THAT THE FRONT END AND EVERYTHING'S THE BAD AND WE HAD THE DOWN HOLES AND SET THEM OUT THERE.
SO AND THEY ARE A PART OF THIS TEAM.
AND THEN THE BIG THING WE WANTED TO BRING UP IS SHARING THESE CARS WHERE THEY'RE SHARED UP THESE TOS THAT WE BOUGHT IN 2012.
YOU CAN LOOK AT THE MILEAGE THAT WE WERE PUTTING ON WHEN WE HAVE TO SHARE 'EM AND RUN 'EM ALMOST 24 7, WE'LL PUT 5,001 DO THAT.
YOU SEE HOW FAST THAT THAT GROWS AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A BIG ISSUE.
THEN AGAIN, AGAIN WE'RE GETTING HAVE TO REPLACE MORE CARS ABOUT FIVE.
SO MORE AND, AND A CAR NEEDS TO REST.
IT'S NOT DOUBT RUNNING A CAR 1 4 7 IS TOUGH.
WELL ACTUALLY THEY'LL LAST LONGER AS LONG AS YOU'RE MAINTAIN WELL THEY'RE MAINTAIN YOU, IT'S GONNA GO DOWN HERE.
WELL THE ELECTRIC OUT HERE TESTIFY TO THAT.
THEY, THEY RUN 300,000 MILES, THE PICKUPS, YOU KNOW, RIGHT ON, ON THE SERVICE TRUCKS AND A LOT OF TIME THEY'LL SET LIKE Y'ALL DO, THEY'LL ILE ALL NIGHT WHILE THEY'RE WORKING ON LINE OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, AND THEY WENT 50 200,000 MILES TO 300,000 PLUS MILES ON THEM.
BUT THEY KEEP THEM IN CONTINUOUS USE.
BUT THAT, THAT BEING SAID, THE ONE OF THE MAIN CONCERNS.
HOW DO YOU HAVE A TOTAL VEHICLE LIST THAT Y'ALL HAVE? Y'ALL STILL GOT 90 PLUS VEHICLES.
YOU GENERATE THAT FOR WE GOT THE PLATE LIFT OF PATROL, PATROL POLICE.
Y'ALL STILL HAVE HOW MANY TAKE HOME VEHICLE? Y'ALL STILL HAVE VERY FEW.
THE UH, PEOPLE THAT ARE ON CALL 24 7 FAR AS ALL THE INVESTIGATORS, UH, THE ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF.
THERE'S NO DEPUTIES TAKING CARS ON, ON PATROL OR STUFF LIKE THAT.
OUR FIRST LINE SUPERVISORS JUST UH, THAT ARE THE ONES THAT GET CALLED OUT.
WELL LAST YEAR WAS 36 TAKE HOME VEHICLE ACCORDING TO AT OUR INSURANCE THEY HAD 36 TAKEN VEHICLE.
IS THAT CORRECT? I I DON'T, I DUNNO IF THAT'S
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A TRUE NUMBER.SO WE GOT, LET'S SEE, I'LL JUST GET, I'LL GET, THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF VEHICLES PARKED OUT THERE IN THE PARKING LOT THAT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THE FRONT PARKING LOT.
WELL THAT'S WHERE WE STAGE EVERYTHING THAT, THAT SEEMED NOT TO EVER BE USED.
WELL YOU'LL SEE HERE, HERE HERE'S THE MILEAGE ON EVERYTHING SITTING OVER THERE AND THAT'S END UP BEING USED.
WELL NOT, YEAH I DON'T, WELL THEY'RE NOT PATROL VEHICLES BECAUSE MOST OF THOSE THAT OUT THERE NOT CROWN BIG, I'M SURE THOSE ARE ON THE ROAD.
I MEAN THERE'S A BUNCH OF TAHOES PICKUPS AND JUST NEAR TIME THAT WEEK YOU GO BY ONLY COUNT 25 30 VEHICLES THAT UH, MARKED VEHICLES, I DUNNO HOW MANY ARE UNMARKED MARKED.
ALL THEM ALL IN MARKED VEHICLES ARE ARE ONE'S ON PATROL THAT ARE SITTING OVER THAT'S STAGED OUT TO EITHER THEY'RE USING THE ONES THAT ARE NOW OR THEY PARKED IT FOR THE NEXT PERSON TO USE THE NIGHT SHIFT.
SO WE ROTATE THEM OUT THE BEST WE CAN TRY THE P AND THEN AS YOU SEE, YES, THERE'S PROBABLY THREE SITTING THERE ALL THE TIME IN WHICH IS 1 17 44 AND NINE SEVEN THAT ARE OUT OF SERVICE.
BUT IF YOU GET US THAT VEHICLE TOTAL LIST, SURE, THAT'D BE GREAT.
AND THE BIG, THE BIG THING THAT WE'D LIKE TO SEND ON THIS ALSO, I KNOW WE HAVE TO BUY A LOT OF CARS BUT ALSO IN OUR PROGRAM THAT WE'VE DONE IS WE HADN'T BOUGHT ANYTHING FOR CID VEHICLES.
WE'RE SAVING MONEY IN THAT ASPECT OF IT.
UH, AND THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE OUR ASSET FORFEITURES AND OUR FEDERAL ASSET FOR ANYTIME THAT WE CAN SEE A GOOD VEHICLE AND USE IT IN CID OR SOMETHING, WE'RE, WE'RE PURCHASING THAT VEHICLE OUT ASSET PURPOSE TO DO THAT IF WE'LL PUT THAT ON LIST WHAT AND YEAH, WHAT SEEDS VEHICLE WE GOT.
BUT THAT'S ONE FENCE THAT THE COUNTY IS NOT PICKING UP IS WE'RE NOT BUYING ANY CID CARS.
PROBABLY THE LAST ONES WE BOUGHT ANY COLLEGE FOR.
WHAT'S THE ONE THAT UH, THEY'RE DRIVING THE LAST ENC OH 7 0 7 I BELIEVE OH SEVEN WAS THE LAST ONE WE BOUGHT.
AND SINCE WE'VE GOTTEN THIS OTHER TASK FORCE, ANYTIME THAT WE CAN SEIZE A GOOD VEHICLE, WE TRY TO PUT IT IN USE TO CID AND ALSO THAT HELPS US WITH OUR CID WE CAN'T HAVE ALL VEHICLES TO TRYING TO DO UNDERCOVER WORK.
PLUS TRYING TO DO INVESTIGATIONS.
SO THIS HELPS US WITH OUR FLEET AND HELPS OUR INVESTIGATORS MOVE AROUND THE COUNTY A LOT BETTER.
SO THAT'S A BIG IMPACT THAT WE DO HELP IN THAT ASPECT.
I JUST, PATROL VEHICLES ARE EXPENSIVE AND I KNOW WE'VE GOTTA DO THAT, BUT I THINK WE'RE ALL SETTING THAT SOME DEGREE BY NOT BUYING THEM LIKE WE USED TO.
WHAT WE'RE DOING ON VEHICLES RIGHT NOW IS TRYING TO, WE'VE GOT SEVERAL REQUESTS FOR UH, YOU KNOW, POLICE VEHICLES.
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS GO THROUGH AND JUST SEE WHAT WE WE AFFORD.
WE THINK WE NEED TO PRESENT WHAT WE THINK WE NEEDED AND SHOW THE KNOWLEDGE AND WHAT GENTLEMAN WAS HERE THE OTHER DAY AND JOHN HAD A GOOD IDEA.
WE WENT OUT THERE AND LOOKED AT HIS CAR AND BASICALLY ALL OF US LOOKED AT IT.
I DON'T GO OUT AND THIS, BUT WE'RE GONNA DO A VEHICLE POLICY, UH, UPDATE.
WE'RE GONNA START A COUNTY COUNTY VEHICLE POLICY AND WE'RE GONNA GET THIS STARTED ASAP AND WITHIN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS WE'LL START UP MEETINGS TO TO DO IT.
BUT ANYWAY, SO WE'RE GONNA START REALLY LOOKING AT OUR VEHICLE.
WELL I THINK, I THINK WE HAVE TO COUNTY, WE'VE GOTTA BETTER AND WE UNDERSTAND THE CAR DEALS.
UH, YEAH, WE'VE GOTTA COUNTY SOME COME AND HELP US, GIVE US THEIR IDEAS, HOW THEY DO THEIRS AND, AND HOW COME THEY DID IT AND WHY THEY DID IT.
SO START FROM THERE AND THEN WE'LL FIGURE OUT.
AND THE NORMAL, YOU LOOK AT MOST BIGGERS, IF YOU IN DALLAS, DALLAS PD WAS IN THERE FLEET AND CHANGING THAT ANYWHERE AT A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
SO AT THEIR FIRST LINE, AND THIS IS ALL FIRST LINE VEHICLES THAT WE'RE RUNNING HOT CALLS A HUNDRED MILES AN HOUR PLUS DOWN THESE ROAD.
AND OUR JUST OUR CONCERNS IS WE DON'T WANNA JEOPARDIZE OUR OR JEOPARDIZE TRAVELING PUBLIC AND HIT ANYBODY'S FAMILY.
SO FRONT END OR SOMETHING BREAKS DOWN THE ROAD AND WE'RE KEEPING GOOD MAINTENANCE.
YES, WE'VE CUT DOWN TO ONE PERSON.
SO WHEN WE HAD TO CUT THE JAIL BUDGET, ONE OF THEM HAD TO GO TO MAINTAIN THAT.
BUT WE'VE GOT ONE PERSON DOING THAT.
THE OTHER ASPECT THAT WE'VE DONE IS TRYING TO HELP THE OVER IMPACT OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS OUR TIRES.
WE KNOW WE CAN'T DELIVER TIRES TO ANY OTHER NON-GOVERNMENT AGENCY.
SO WE'RE NOW, WE'RE TAKING OUR TIRES.
BUT OUR CONCERN IS WHEN WE NEED A NEW TIRES ON A CAR AND MAN TIRES, WE HAVE TO BLOW UP FOUR TIRES FROM HERE, DRIVE TO HARVEY'S 'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE
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WE GET OUR BEST DEAL TO HAVE TIRES DONE.AND THEN YOU CAN YOU IMAGINE THE MAN HOURS IT TAKES TO TRAVEL CARS, TRAVEL TRUCKS.
SO WE DID A TICKET ITEM, BOUGHT A TIRE AND A BALANCER AND NOW WE'RE DOING 'EM MYSELF, WHICH IS IMPACTING US A LOT FAR AS SAVING MANHEIM AND MANHEIM.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DONE AND TAKEN ON AND TRYING TO IMPROVE THAT ABOUT THAT.
SO PRECINCT ONE CAN TAKE, IF YOU CAN GET IT IN BETWEEN WHAT WE'RE DOING, I TELL YOU ONE PERSON IS BEAT.
WE'RE TRYING TO MAINTAIN CHANGING THE OIL AND EVERYTHING.
JACK'S GOT HIS HAND UP WHILE WE'RE ON A TOPIC OF UH, I HAD CHANCE TO GET TOGETHER, BUT WE DID FIND A PLACE, PUT THESE, THESE TIRES THAT WERE TAKEN OFF THAT THAT WAS I KNOW WHETHER YOU GUYS YEAH WE GOT THE TRAILER OUT HERE, WE MIND DOING THAT.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA TALK TO Y'ALL THEN BECAUSE I NEED TO GET PERMISSION FROM HIM BECAUSE I CAN'T GET RID OF IT WITHOUT HIS PERMISSION.
THAT'S WHAT WE WAS TALKING ABOUT.
I KNOW YOU'VE GOT THE TRAILER, YOU'VE GOT THE TRAILER YOU'VE GOT.
SO WE CAN BRING, WE CAN TAKE HIM TO ANYBODY'S TRAILER AND NOBODY HAD A PROBLEM PRECINCT.
SO THAT WAY I'LL I'LL IT'D BE YOUR CLOSEST RIGHT.
WE'LL GET YOU A COUNT OF EVERY TIRE DISPOSAL WHERE YOU'LL HAVE A COUNT.
NO, IF EVERY TIRE YOU BRING, YOU HAVE TO GO PICK ONE UP OFF THE COUNTY ROAD.
NOW SOME, SOME CAN CONSIDER THERE, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG YOU RUN THOSE TIRES, BUT SOME APPLICATION WHEN YOU TAKE A TIRE OFF A POLICE CAR, SOME INDIVIDUAL THAT NOT WANNA BUY THE TIRE, I DON'T WANT, YOU KNOW, CAUSE PROPERTY.
BUT I MEAN IF YOU HAVE A TIRE NOT SAFE FOR PURSUIT IT MIGHT BE THE TRAILER, IT MIGHT BE OFF.
YEAH, Y'ALL COULD PROBABLY USE SOME TRAILER TRACTOR.
WE'RE NOT GONNA RUN THEM STRAIGHT.
YOU'RE RIGHT, RIGHT ON THESE FIRST CAR.
UH, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT AS WE BRING 'EM OUT WE MIGHT WANT STACK THEM OUT THERE AND Y'ALL MIGHT WANNA LOOK AT IT.
WE'LL STACK 'EM ON THE GROUND.
Y'ALL KNOW THAT WE DROPPED THEM OFF AND WE'LL TELL Y'ALL'S PERSONNEL WE DROPPING THESE OFF Y'ALL MIGHT USE.
THEY HAVE A TIRE, THEY CALL IT PURSUIT TIRE.
WE USE GOOD AREA PURSUIT TIRES.
YEAH, I, I HADN'T FOUND ANY TRAILER RIMS OF WHICH YOU HAVE A 17 INCH OR 18 INCH TIRE ON.
IS THAT MOST 17 TRAILER? THE R IS THE RENT.
THERE'S NO SUCH ENVIRONMENT AS RENT.
THAT KIND OF GIVES YOU THE DEAL ON THE PLEA ALSO.
IS THERE, UH, ANY, BEEN ANY CHANGE FOR GENERAL MOTORS TO, UH, AS FAR AS PURSUIT RATING ON THE TRAVERSE VEHICLE? DO YOU KNOW IF THERE'S ANY CHANGE IN IT? I HAVE NOT HEARD NOTHING.
YOU MAY BE AWARE THAT YOU, ANY VEHICLE OF HUNDRED THOUSAND MILES HAS TO BE, UH, EMISSION CHECK 45 Y'ALL.
SHE'S GOT IT ON THE TOP AND SHE STILL HAVING TO LEARN ABOUT THE, IF THEY'RE, IF THEY'RE DOING THAT BECAUSE THAT CALLED OF THAT I SAY MOST ALL THESE VEHICLE.
UH, THE OTHER THING IS JUST TO KIND OF LET YOU KNOW THIS IS THE VEHICLES BACK, YOU KNOW, UH, THIS IS, UH, LIKE I SAID, THESE ARE NINE THAT, THAT WE TURNED BACK TO BE.
I KNOW WE GOT, WE HAD THE FIVE THAT WE GOT, BUT WE WERE TURNED BACK BEHIND.
WHERE ARE THESE? THESE ARE AT THE ARMORY OVER THERE FAR BEHIND THE FENCE.
THAT'S THE ONES WE SEE OVER THERE.
WE WE HAVE SOME, UH, TRASH TRASH CARS THAT THEY BROUGHT THEY BACK TO, UH, COLLECTIONS.
SO WE'LL HAVE A HOW MANY MILES THEY HAVE MINE? THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE TWO TRUCKS ARE THE TWO ANIMAL CONTROL TRUCKS HAD TWO.
ONE OF THEM HAD BARELY DRIVE OVER BECAUSE THE TRANSMISSION SECOND YEAR BAD IN IT, BUT OTHER ONE I DON'T ONE.
UNIT 20 HAD, UH, 267,000 21, 2 20.
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YEAH.I DIDN'T PUT, I SHOULD PUT THE, I GUESS ON THERE I JUST, I KNEW WE WAS GETTING AROUND TO KNOW WHAT WE WERE RETURNING BACK.
BUT THESE HAVE BEEN, THESE ARE, THESE HAVEN'T BEEN SOLD AS YET.
IF YOU GONNA REPLACE SOME OF THESE OVER HERE, THEY WOULD BE, THEY WOULD BE RETURNED BACK.
WHATEVER WE REPLACE, WE'LL RETURN BACK HUNDRED PERCENT.
THESE ARE NOT COUNTED AS TURNBACKS AS YET.
I MEAN THERE'S NO, THEY'RE TURN BACK ON OUR LAST BUT WE BUY FIVE MORE.
WE'LL, WE'LL REPLACE FIVE FIVE.
THAT'S THAT, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
WE BUY FIVE, WE BUY 10 TOMORROW.
NOT THAT I WOULD EVER DELIVER.
I'M NOT AS MUCH STUFF AS I LOOKED AT OVER THE LAST SEVEN DAYS.
YOUR, I'M NOT, THIS IS THREE TIMES.
IF THAT'S THE ONLY MISTAKE I MADE IN THIS WHOLE THING, I'M FORWARD FOUR TIMES.
WE'RE ALL, THEN WE GOTTA DO, AND OBVIOUSLY YOU KNOW THE VEHICLE ONE BESIDES PERSONNEL.
THEN IF YOU GO TO THE LAST ONE ON THE BLUE ITEM, THAT, THAT WOULD BE THE POSITIONS AND THE SALARY, WHICH IS PUT OUT.
I BROKE THAT DOWN VERY EFFICIENTLY.
UH, FROM A TO C, WE HAVE NINE, TWO POSITIONS WE'RE BUDGETED 84, UH, WIND MILL FARM COMES OUT 5 64 AND THE SROS COME OUT AT 5 62.
AND THOSE MEANS, THAT MEANS THAT THEY'RE PAID BY, UH, BOTH PEOPLE.
THAT NEGOTIATING WITH SOMEBODY ELSE, NOT THAT I KNOW.
I, THERE WAS ONE OTHER, WE HAVE NOT HEARD NOTHING.
I JUST THOUGHT THAT, BUT THAT'S THE BREAKDOWN.
AND THEN YOU'LL SEE THE BREAKDOWN ON THE BACK PAGE OF THE SALARY, WHO'S GETTING LONGEVITY, AND THEN THE OPENING.
UM, RIGHT NOW, JUST TO GIVE YOU WHAT WE'VE GOT IN OPENS, WE HAVE ONE SRO, WE HAVE THREE COURTHOUSE, WE HAVE THREE DEPUTIES, AND WE HAVE THAT ONE CMV COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLE OPEN, TALKING ABOUT THE CV CONSTABLES, WE TURNER, YOU KNOW THAT BACK IN? YES.
AND THEY KIND OF INDICATED AT ONE TIME THEY, YOU KNOW, THAT THOSE COMMERCIAL VEHICLE WOULD RUN BY SHERIFF DEPARTMENT.
THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY WE HAD TO COME TO SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT RIGHT BELOW.
SO WHAT'S THE STATUS? DO WE HAVE ANYBODY AT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT? THIS, WE WE'RE TRYING TO POSITION ON TO GET TO THAT BECAUSE WE'RE, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE THREE DEPUTY CHARGED AND WE GOT THREE COURTHOUSE OVER HERE THAT WE'VE GOTTA GET FILLED UP THAT BUMPING PEOPLE AROUND TO DEAL THAT.
YOU KNOW, DALLAS COUNTY DOES A, THEY A COMPANY, WHEN YOU GONNA COURTHOUSE INSTEAD OF S THERE? PRIVATE CONTRACTOR, RIGHT? PRIVATE CONTRACTOR.
YOU THINK THAT WOULD BE I'M GOING, I'M GONNA LEAVE THAT BEFORE THE SHERIFF BECAUSE ULTIMATE THE SHERIFF IS RESPONSIBLE FOR SECURITY OF, UH, BILL.
SO I WOULD GOING ASK HIM THAT QUESTION.
I'M NOT GONNA SPEAK OUT ANYMORE THAT DALLAS, WHY WE DO.
I MEAN IT DEPENDING ON THE, A WHOLE LOT CHEAPER PRICE.
YOU ALSO PAY FOR IT TO GET SOMETIMES ON THAT.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THING I WILL ADD TO THAT.
AND I'M NOT SAYING SOME OF THESE SECURITY COMPANIES OUT HERE ARE NOT GOOD, BUT YOU PAY FOR WHAT YOU GET TALKING ABOUT.
DON'T ANY BIG ISSUES OR ANYTHING.
IF IT, IF THEY CAN, THEY PROBABLY AIN'T GONNA SEND IT OUT TOO MUCH.
THAT COULD BE A QUESTION I WOULD ASK THE SHERIFF BECAUSE ULTIMATELY HE, HE HAS THE SECURITY OF THE COURTHOUSE.
WELL, I JUST KIND WANNA THROW THAT OUT.
GETTING YOUR GUYS BACK OUT ON THE ROAD AWAY FROM THE COURTHOUSE.
SO IN THIS LIST HERE, UM, I GUESS IT'S GOT BROKE DOWN FAR AS WHAT PART? UM, I, THE, UH, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL GUYS AND THEN THE COUNTY CLEANUP GUYS.
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WERE GONE.AND THE DECK, WHEN WE TOOK THE 21, THEY, THEY WERE THE TWO TO GO.
BUT THE, THE MALE PERSON AND ALL THAT 21, WHICH THEY'RE IN, THE 5 61 ENVIRONMENTAL WAS IN THE FIVE 60 TO PUBLIC WORKS.
WE'RE NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT PUBLIC WORKS IS GONNA LOOK LIKE.
AND HE WAS, HE UNDERSTOOD THAT.
I THINK HE JUST, HE JUST KIND OF ASSUMED THOSE OFFICERS SEVERAL YEARS AGO WHENEVER THERE TRANSITION.
SO HE UNDERSTANDS THAT, UH, THERE WAS TRANSUNION TO MOVE THEM OVER THERE AND PUT THEM BACK UNDER US AND, AND CONTROL THAT SINCE THEY'RE FILING CASES AND, AND DOING THAT.
AND THEY STILL HAVE TO BE UNDER A PEACE, YOU KNOW.
PEACE OFFICER THAT WE, WE'VE DISCUSSED.
BUT THERE IN THAT NUMBER, THEY, THEY'RE IN THE NUMBER, THE DEPUTIES, IF YOU LOOK, IF YOU LOOK AT THE VERY FRONT PAGE, IT, IT SAYS TWO ON THE FRONT OF THAT, OF THE COUNT.
RIGHT ON THIS FRONT PAGE HERE IS ACTUALLY ON THE STREET PATROL 20.
THEN YOU'VE GOT, UH, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PATROL DEPUTIES.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE 20 DEPUTIES.
YOU'VE GOTTA GO UP HERE TO YOUR FEO PATROL.
YOUR PATROL SERGEANTS ARE DEPUTIES AND THEN YOU SHIFT LIEUTENANT.
SO, SO WE'VE GOT 12, UH, THE 30, 32 PEOPLE DOWN THE STREET.
SAY IT AGAIN, BRIAN, THE FTO PATROL, IF YOU'LL START FROM THE VERY TOP, WE'LL GO LIEUTENANT.
THE FOUR LIEUTENANTS, PATROL LIEUTENANTS, THEY'RE ON THE STREET.
THE FOUR PATROL SERGEANTS, THE FOUR CORPORALS, THE FTOS, THE 4K NINES ARE, THEY'RE PATROLLING, BUT THEY'RE IN AND OUT.
AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THE, UH, 24 DEPUTY.
I KNOW MY MATH IS PROBABLY NOT RIGHT, BUT WE GOT 32 OF THEM, RIGHT? YES, SIR.
IF, UH, THEY'RE ON 12 OFF OF, THAT MEANS, DOES THAT MEAN THAT THERE'S 16 PEOPLE ON PATROL ALL THE TIME? THERE SHOULD BE EIGHT ON EIGHT ON DAY SHIFT, EIGHT ON NIGHT SHIFT SHIFT.
WHEN WE'RE FULLY STAFFED, WE'LL HAVE EIGHT AND EIGHT.
AND THAT'S NOT INCLUDING ANY ANYBODY ON SM A VACATION COMP TIME, ALL THAT.
WE SHOULD HAVE EIGHT ON THE, WE GOT EIGHT PEOPLE OUT, HOPEFULLY.
WELL, THEY DO, THEY DO PATROL.
THEY'RE OUT THERE DOING ADDITIONAL.
WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD HAVE EIGHT PLUS MAYBE CANINE PERFECT WORLD WITH NOBODY OFF, NOBODY TRAINED, NOBODY.
SO THAT'S A TOTAL OF 36 FOR TWO SHIFTS, RIGHT? HUH? FOUR SHIFTS.
THEY WORK FOUR ON, FOUR OFF, FOUR PEOPLE.
I MEAN, IT TAKES FOUR POSITIONS TO HAVE SOMEBODY THERE 24 HOURS WORKING.
FOUR SHIFT, RIGHT TO WORK 24 HOURS.
BUT THAT GIVES YOU A GOOD OF WHAT EVERYBODY IS A GOOD BREAKDOWN IN THAT.
HOW MANY VACANT POSITIONS DO YOU HAVE? UH, ONE SRO THREE COURTHOUSE, THREE DEPUTIES AND ONE CMV
AND YOU'RE, WE'RE TESTING, I BELIEVE THE OTHER DAY.
THERE'S FIVE COMING TO BE, UH, INTERVIEWED.
OUR, OUR POOL IS NOT GOOD LATELY.
UH, WE'RE EITHER GETTING BRAND NEW OFFICERS, WE'RE NOT GETTING ANYBODY WITH, IF THEY HAVE EXPERIENCE, THEY'VE HAD SOME ISSUES WITH THEIR BACKGROUND.
UH, OUR BIGGEST DEAL IS WE TESTED, I THINK 12 THE OTHER DAY.
HALF THEM, HALF OF THEM FAILED THE TEST.
AND THIS IS THE EIGHTH GRADE ENTRY LEVEL TEST.
AND THEN WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THEM BACKGROUNDS, I BELIEVE THREE OF THEM, THREE OF 'EM MADE THE INTERVIEW BOARD.
WHAT IS OUR BEGINNING, WHAT'S OUR ENTRY SALARY FOR 40, 41, 96 IS THE ENTRY SALARY.
I MEAN, WHAT DOES, LIKE CITY OF TAR, CITY OF FARMING, HAR I HAR CARROLL'S, A LITTLE DIFFERENT GOES ON THE YEARS OF SERVICE YOU GOT AND THEY CAN JUMP UP.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S A BIG DEAL OVER TIME AND ALL THAT.
BUT I THINK THAT WE'RE LOSING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT LOSING PEOPLE TO HUNT
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COUNTY.WE'RE LOSING, WE JUST LOST ONE THAT WENT TO GRAND PRAIRIE AND WHEN HE GETS OUT OF HIS LITTLE MINI ACADEMY, HE'LL BE MAKING $72,000 ON THE TRIP.
YEAH, I CAN, I CAN VOUCH FOR THAT BECAUSE HE HAD HENDERSON HUNT VAN AND ONE OTHER SMALL COUNTY AUDITOR CALL ME WANTING TO KNOW WHAT WE PAY IN OUR OFFICERS BECAUSE THEY'RE LOSING THEIRS TOO.
EVERY, EVERYBODY'S LOSING THIS WAY.
SO WE'RE HAVE TO COMPETE WITH WHAT ABOUT FOUR? THEY THEY'RE 46, 47 ELSE AROUND UP.
AND NOW, YOU KNOW, HONESTLY, SAT HERE AT THE TABLE, I'LL BE STRAIGHT WITH YOU.
WHERE, WHERE WE HAD INCENTIVES OF LONGEVITY OF SAYING, YOU KNOW, EVERY FIVE YEARS YOU WOULD SEE AT LEAST THREE YOU GOT SOMETHING TO LOOK AT.
THEY HAVE NOTHING TO LOOK AT NOW.
WE HAD CERTIFICATE PAY, THEY'D GO TO SCHOOL.
THEY, THEY'D GO ON THEIR OWN TO SOME DEGREE KNOWING THAT, HEY, IF I GET THIS INTERMEDIATE LICENSE, I'M, I'VE GOT SOMETHING TO GO FOR.
I CAN GET $1,200 THE NEXT YEAR BY SUBMITTING THAT LICENSE.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT INCENTIVE ANYMORE.
WE HAVE NO INCENTIVE WHEN YOU COME THERE, UNLESS YOU PROMOTE, YOU WILL BE AT THE SAME MADE UNTIL THE COUNTY DECIDES DIFFERENT.
WHICH WE'VE NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO.
I'M JUST TELLING HOW, HOW WE'RE HAVING TO PRESENT OURSELVES IN DETAIL.
MOST OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT WE'RE LOSING PEOPLE TO HAVE OFFICER FIVE YEARS, I'M BE MAKING THIS WITHOUT PROMOTING.
I'M GONNA BE MAKING THIS MUCH MONEY THAT YOU PROMOTE.
BUT WHERE WE'RE AT, YOU HAVE TO PROMOTE TO MAKE MORE MONEY.
WELL, I I MEAN I THINK WE, YOU'VE HEARD THAT FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS AS WELL.
RIGHT? YOU KNOW, AND WE KNOW THAT'S AN ISSUE.
OF COURSE, OUR, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT IS TRYING TO COME UP WITH ENOUGH, UH, RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF COUNTYWIDE INCREASES HERE.
I DUNNO WHAT THAT'S GONNA BE AT THIS POINT.
BUT LIKE I SAY, THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.
YOU NEED TO COME HERE AND TELL YOU THE REAL WORLD WE ANYTHING DON'T TELL US NEED.
WHAT ABOUT OTHER THAN THAT? THAT'S FIVE 60.
THAT'S ALL THE SHERIFF'S, THAT'S ALL THE OPERATIONS SHERIFF'S SIDE.
YOU'RE NOT ASKING FOR NEW, UH, DEPUTIES.
YOU'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING.
JUST NO, THE RED THERE IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, BUYING THAT LINE AND DOING THE FORENSICS, TRYING TO IMPROVE OUR FORENSICS WHERE YOU KEEP DOING THAT.
THE CAR EXCHANGE AND THEN THE, THE RADIO.
THAT'S POSSIBLE OPTION THERE TOO.
SO NOW IS THE JAIL, NOW IS THE JAIL BUDGET.
NOW IF YOU START GOING THROUGH THERE, UH, YOU PRETTY WELL SEE CARLOS, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S WENT DOWN TO SOME DEGREE.
I THINK IT'S RIGHT THERE, CLOSE STILL 64, 7 21.
I THINK WHEN WE ALL FIGURE IT, UH, RIGHT.
UH, THEN THE JAIL SALARY, ALL THAT STUFF HAS GONE DOWN TO SOME, SOME DEGREE BECAUSE WE HAVE LOST SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT HAD LONGEVITY.
WE'VE LOST PEOPLE THAT HAD MERIT PAY.
SO PEOPLE RETIRING, PEOPLE ARE ALSO, SO THAT'S WHY THAT'S DROPPED DOWN.
UH, IF WE GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE NEXT RED ITEM, WHICH IS GENESIS SUPPLIES, HOUSE SUPPLIES AND LAUNDRY, THAT'S A PROBLEM.
UH, IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THE FIFTH TAB, IT IS 5 61 PRICE INCREASE LETTERS.
UH, THAT'S ALL THE LETTERS OF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WE USE AND SUPPLIES WE USE WHERE THEY'RE TELLING 'EM EVERYTHING IS GOING UP 10%.
UH, SO I WANTED TO INCLUDE THAT AND TELL YOU WHY.
ON EACH OF THOSE LINES, I UP 10% ON WHICH ONES ON, ON THE LINE ITEM, THE, UH, JAN SUPPLIES, HOUSE SUPPLIES AND LAUNDRY SUPPLIES.
LIKE WE NEED TO BUY ALL OUR SUPPLIES BEFORE JULY 1ST.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST THE COST OF DOING BID GONNA GO UP NINE, 10% I THINK.
BUT I KNOW WE STRAPPED, WE STRAPPED THE MONEY AND THEN HE, WE WORKED WITH HIM ON EVERYTHING.
YEAH, WE WORKED WITH HIM ON EVERYTHING THAT WE BUY AND WE THE BEST PRICE THAT WE CAN GET.
BUT JUST EVERYTH, YOU KNOW, WHO WE USE AND THE BEST 10%.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE PERCENT 10.
GOT YOUR WORK CUT OUT FOR YOU.
HE WORKED QUITE, THE NEXT THING YOU GO TO IS THE SECURITY EQUIPMENT AND MAINTENANCE IN WHICH IT'S
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GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN IT WAS LAST YEAR.IF YOU REMEMBER, WE MOVED SOME MONEY OVER FROM WHAT WE HAD, UH, LEFT OVER.
WE HAD TO DO THE UPGRADE OF THE SECURITY SYSTEM OVER THERE.
THIS IS THE PHASE, THIRD PHASE.
AND THAT IS ON, UH, THE TAB RIGHT BEFORE THE ONE WE WENT TO, WHICH IS THE QUOTE ON A, AND THAT'S OUT OF SIMPLEX FOR NAIL.
UH, WE HAVE TO REPLACE, UH, A OVER THERE.
THAT'S THE INTERCOM SYSTEM, THE DOORS AND ALL THAT THAT WE KNOW FROM THE LAST TWO.
WE'RE GETTING NO MORE SUPPLIES FOR.
WHERE ARE WE IN THAT PROCESS? THIS IS THE THIRD STAGE.
SHOULD BE THE LAST, THE LAST YES.
THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR FUNDING FOR.
AND IT IS A HUNDRED EIGHT SIX FIFTY NINE OH ONE.
AND THAT'S ADDED INTO THAT, WHICH IS CHEAPER THAN IT WAS LAST YEAR BECAUSE WE DID TWO PHASES.
SO I DROPPED THAT DOWN TO 1 28 7 INSTEAD OF 1 9 2 2 16.
AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IT WENT UP JUST A LITTLE BIT.
AND THAT'S IN OUR MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT.
AND THE ITEMIZED, ITEMIZED ON THAT IS YOUR THIRD TAB, WHICH IS 45 0 2.
WHAT DO WE ADD ON THAT DIFFERENT SHEET ON THIS ONE? UH, HERE LOOK, THE, THE EQUIPMENT MAINTENANCE WENT UP WHEN WE ADDED THE STEAMER AND STUFF.
YEAH, THE DISHWASHER AND ALL THAT.
THE HOMER, I HAD THAT ON THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT.
DO THAT WHEN WE ADDED THE NEW DISHWASHER AND THE NEW STEAMER THAT WE HAD.
DID IT NOT HAVE MANUS ON MOW? NO, THAT STUFF WAS, WAS OVER ON THAT ONE.
I THINK WHEN WE, WHEN WE BOUGHT IT, I THINK THE FIRST YEAR WAS THROWN IN FOR FREE.
SO NOW WE HAVE TO PICK UP NEXT YEAR.
BUT IT, IT MOVED IT UP AND THAT'S WHY PREVIOUS YEAR WE SPENT 41,056,000.
WHAT IS NEW WE'RE, I GET TWO QUESTIONS.
WHAT IS NEW THAT WE'RE COVERED THAT WE HADN'T COVERED BEFORE? THE SECOND QUESTION IS, UH, YOU KNOW, LOT MACHINE
USUALLY YOU CAN REPLACE IT, YOU KNOW, ON YOUR OWN MONEY IF YOU BREAK IT DOWN TO WHATEVER VERSUS THEIR EX.
IS ANY OF THIS ON THAT TYPE OF CATEGORY? I WOULD, I WOULD, COULD WE COVER SOME OF THIS ON OUR OWN AND SAVE MONEY? I DON'T, I WOULDN'T THINK SO.
I KNOW SOMEBODY TOOK STATE MANDATE.
UH, I MEAN WE CAN LOOK AT IT, BUT I THINK THE PROBLEM IS, IS WHEN WE BRING 'EM OUT WITHOUT IT BEING UNDERNEATH THAT WE GET A CHEAPER RATE.
BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE, I JUST FIXED THE JACK.
YEAH, THEY'RE NORMAL RATE IS PRETTY WELL UNGODLY.
THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK ON IT.
OUR PEOPLE ARE NOT CAPABLE OF WORKING ON SOME OF THIS STUFF.
WE GET SOME HIGH DOLLAR EQUIPMENT THAT REQUIRED LOT MAINTENANCE.
LIKE I THINK ONE TIME WE HAD A CONTRACT THAT THAT ELAPSED AND UH, UH, THEY WERE GONNA CHARGE QUITE A BIT HIGHER TO FIX IT, BUT THEY HONORED PRICE.
SO THERE IS A SAVINGS RIGHT FOR THAT.
IS THAT, IS THAT NEW? UH, SUPER POT.
DID IT BE INCLUDED? YEAH, THAT'S IN THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT.
IT WASHER DRYER AND ALL THAT STUFF.
WHO, WHO GETS THE CONTACT FROM THEIR AC, AC MAINTENANCE? THAT'S, THAT'S THE, UH, 3D.
ARE THEY NOT IN CONTRACT AS ANYWAY, THEY DO THAT.
AND THEN WE'VE ALWAYS PUT THAT IN THE LAST THREE YEARS OF REPLACING ACS TO BUYING THAT AND PUTTING THAT OUT OF THERE.
BECAUSE WE'VE GOT 58 UNITS AND WE'VE REPLACED VERY FEW.
THAT'S NOT A MAINTENANCE CONTRACT.
NO, THAT'S NOT A MAINTEN THAT'S JUST IN THERE TO PULL THAT EXACTLY.
FOR AC, SOMETIMES WE USE THAT, SOMETIMES WE DON'T.
WE SHOULDN'T HAVE THAT BE A WASH REPAIR OR SOMETHING.
MAINTENANCE CONTRACT, WE'VE ALWAYS PUT IT IN THERE.
IT'S BEEN IN THERE IN THE LAST THREE OR FOUR YEARS.
THIS COMPANY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S DOING THE WORK COURTHOUSE, YOU KNOW, OUT THE CONTROL AND ALL THAT STUFF THERE.
I ALSO ONE TO GO AND LOOK AT THE JAIL AND SEE WHAT THEY COULD COMMEND BEING, SAVE SOME ADDITIONAL AND THEIRS IS A GUARANTEE.
I WAS GONNA THAT BACK JUST DISCUSSION WE'RE, AND I KNOW YOU'VE DONE SOME THINGS TO CUT BACK ON UTILITY AFTER GETTING THE IS, I THINK IT'S A BIG DONE OVER
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OUT THERE.AND I THINK ALSO THE TOWN GOING OUT AND GETTING THAT DIFFERENT PROVIDER, IT, SAME PROVIDER, WE JUST GOT A BETTER RATE.
SO IT'S, IT'S A BIG SAVING THERE.
LIKE I SAY, WE'RE TRYING TO, EVERY TIME WE CAN, TRYING TO SAVE ELECTRICITY OUT THERE AND DOING WHAT WE DO, UH, WITH THE NEW CONTROLS AND THAT ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE, WE'VE GOT THE AIR THAT GOES OFF, YOU KNOW, AFTER SIX O'CLOCK.
THE ONLY THING IT DOES IS WHEN WE GOT, SO WE'VE GOT GOOD CONTROL ON IT, LOOKING AT THAT AND PLUS PUTTING THE, THE SENSOR FUR IN THE ROOMS. RIGHT.
THE LIGHTS GOING OFF AT NIGHT WHEN PEOPLE WALKING IN AND OUT.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE DOING ALL THAT AS WE CAN TO TRY TO STAY.
UH, WE, UH, ARE AWARE, OF COURSE EVERYBODY HAS A COPY, THE JAIL COMMISSION WHERE THEY CAME IN AND STUDIED, UH, THE, UH,
UH, THE SECOND LINE THERE, SALARY TRAILER, AND THIS IS ACTUAL IN FIVE, IN 2012 WE SPENT 5 MILLION 6, 2 13, WE SPENT 5,000,002 8,000.
AND THAT IS THIS YEAR WE BUDGET, UH, THE ADOPTED BUDGET WAS 4,016,000.
AND UH, BUT AS OF, UH, FOUR 30 WE WERE HAD ACTUALLY SPENT, UH, 2 MILLION 1 98.
AND UH, HOW MANY VACANCIES DO YOU HAVE? WE'VE HAD RIGHT NOW POSITION WHERE I'VE GOT, UH, RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT A, WE'VE HAD AS MUCH AS 12 AT ONE TIME.
UH, SO JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, UH, BECAUSE I, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE SOME DO NOT FEEL LIKE THE JAIL BUDGET STATUTE HAS BEEN REDUCED, BUT IT HAS BEEN REDUCED BY ABOUT A MILLION THOUSAND.
NOW, SAYING THAT IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT WE ARE IN LINE WITH WHAT THE JAIL STANDARDS SUGGEST WE HAVE FOR A JAIL THAT'S COMPLETELY FULL.
IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT? FOR WHAT THEY PROJECTED TO SOME DEGREE, BUT NOT INCLUDE CONTROL WOUND.
AND I KNOW THE CAVEAT OF THAT IS THE WAY OUR JAIL IS ARRANGED, POD, POD THE PODS, THAT'S, THAT'S HARD INTO PLACE.
BUT EVIDENTLY EVEN THE, THEY STILL RECOMMENDED THAT WE COULD OPERATE THE JAIL STAFF RIGHT.
WITH FOUR 50 PEOPLE OR WHATEVER WITH THE NUMBER.
IS THAT AN ACCURATE, THE WAY THEY READ THAT, BUT THAT'S IN THE BOTTOM LINE.
IT SAYS, YOU KNOW, SAFETY AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
LOOKING AT IT, THE BIG THING THEY DON'T INCLUDE IN THIS IS OUR CONTROL ROOM.
UH, BUT THEY LEAVE OUT FIVE CONTROL ROOMS AND THEY LEFT IT OUT FROM DAY ONE.
AND THEY'LL TELL YOU AS OF RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE NOT GONNA ADD THEM BACK IN THERE.
AND THE REASON WHY THEY THINK THAT WE CAN CONTROL ONE, CONTROL ONE CAN'T DO IT.
THERE'S NO WAY THE SAFETY OF THE INMATES AND THE OFFICERS ITSELF, WE'VE GOTTA HAVE SOMEBODY VIEWING CAMERAS AND KNOWING WHEN SOMEBODY GOES IN THERE BECAUSE MY CONTROL LETS ANYBODY AND EVERYBODY IN AND OUT THE GATE LOW.
SO THEY'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO THEM.
AND THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, MY BIG CONCERN IS STILL THE CONTROL ROOM THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THAT.
THEY'RE INCLUDED ONE CONTROL AND WE'VE GOT FIVE OTHER, YOU REMEMBER ON THESE POSITIVE TWO CONTROL ROOMS AND ON THE FEMALE, THEY'RE NOT INCLUDED IN THAT STUFF.
HUNDRED SEVEN IS NOT INCLUDED.
AND THAT'S THE BIGGEST CONCERN.
BUT FROM RUNNING THE CONTROL ROOM IS, IS STILL, BUT I MAY ALSO, IF THE VERY, IF YOU'LL LOOK AT THE VERY LAST TAB WAS BROKE COMPLETELY ALL THE WAY DOWN.
AND IN THAT, IN THAT COUNT, IT SAYS 107 AND WE HAVE EIGHT, SEVEN DETENTION SEATS.
CORPORAL FOUR SHIFT CORPORALS FOUR, UH, SERGEANT FOUR, LIEUTENANT ASSISTANT JAIL ADMINISTRATOR.
AND, AND IT'S ON THE LAST OF THE GREEN PATH.
AND NOW ON THE RIGHT IT DOES ADD, IT
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PERIODICALLY GOES DOWN.UH, WE DO HAVE, I THINK WE'RE GONNA BILL OUT $12,000.
SO DAN COUNTY, WE'RE HOUSING SOME OF THEIR FEMALES OVER HERE, WHICH WE RIGHT.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING A FEW, FEW DOLLARS HERE AND THERE.
UH, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE AT WHAT THEY'RE, UH, SAYING IF YOU DON'T INCLUDE THE CONTROL ROOM, UH, AND THEN WHEN YOU GO OVER HERE, THE, THE SIDE, THESE ARE THE, THE ONES THAT DO THE OTHER TASKS THAT, THAT WE HAVE TO DO THAT'S NOT INCLUDED.
THEY DON'T INCLUDE THAT IN THE JAIL STUDY.
UH, THE TRAINED SERGEANT, UH, THAT'S THE ONE THAT DOES ALL OUR HR AND STUFF THAT'S NOT INCLUDED.
UH, OUR BONDING AND MALE SERGEANT AND ALL THAT.
UH, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT INCLUDE CLASSIFICATION, UH, VEHICLE MAINTENANCE.
THAT'S WHERE THAT VEHICLE MAINTENANCE COME OUT.
OUR TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE AND OUR COURT COORDINATOR THAT HANDLES ALL OUR
UH, SHE DOES ALL THAT PLUS KEEPS OUR COURTS COORDINATED TO SEND OUR INMATES UP HERE TO TRY GET THESE PEOPLE ON, ON TRIAL, UH, CUSTODIAN RECORDS.
SHE'S THE ONE THAT DOES ALL THE RECORDS, UH, FOR THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT.
UH, THE CIVIL PROCESS OF HANDLING ALL THE SERVING CIVIL PROCESS OUTSIDE, INSIDE.
SHE MAINTAINS ALL THAT AND KEEPS CONTROL OF THAT FACILITY MAINTENANCE, WHICH IS THEM.
UH, FIVE COME OUT OF THE MAINTENANCE, UH, BUDGET.
AND UH, THAT'S MAINTENANCE OF THE BUILDING AND THE MAINTENANCE OF THE GROUNDS THAT WE DO ALL OVER HERE.
PLUS HALF THE GENERAL, OUR QUARTER MASTER THAT KEEPS UP WITH EVERY PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S ISSUED TO ANYBODY, UH, THE DOCTOR AND THEN OUR COMMISSARY.
AND YOUR TOTAL BUDGET REQUEST IS DOWN APPROXIMATELY? UH, I WANNA BELIEVE THE TOTAL.
WELL, IF YOU JUST LOOK AT THE OPERATIONAL STUFF, NOT SALARIES AND STUFF, BE ABOUT 49,160 JUST IN THE OPERATION.
BECAUSE I RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT.
WELL, I TRIED, THAT'S WHY I BROKE THAT DOWN WITHOUT YOU THE TRUE CALL.
THE ONLY QUESTION I GOT, UH, BRIAN ON THIS AUDIT, TEXAS STANDARD COMMISSION, THE, UH, ON THE SHIFT RELIEF SAYS ACTUAL NUMBER DAYS, I GUESS, IS THAT RIGHT? 30? I I HAVE NOT GOT OUR COPY BACK YET.
I'VE SEEN A DRAFT OF IT, BUT I NOT SEEN THE WE'LL GET YOU COPY.
THEY'LL SEND, THEY'RE GONNA SEND IT TO Y'ALL FIRST.
SO THE SHERIFF HER, SO I WOULD SAY, I'M NOT SURE IT'S PROBABLY ACCURATE BECAUSE WE SENT 'EM ALL THE INFORMATION.
THEY HAVE, UM, AND I GUESS I'M ASSUMING THIS IS THE AVERAGE PERSONNEL 365 NUMBER OF REGULAR DAYS OFF WOULD BE 180 2 NUMBER OF VACATION DAYS IS 8.16.
I'M ASSUMING THAT'S SOME PEOPLE.
SIX DAYS 11 AND NUMBER OF PERSONAL DAYS.
SO AND THEN 12 TRAINING HOURS.
SO THEY ACTUALLY, UM, HAD 228.2 DAYS OFF.
SO THEY ACTUALLY WORK 36, RIGHT? IS THAT, IS THAT NORMAL FOR YEAH, WE'RE WORKING FOUR ON FOUR OFF.
SO YOU'RE REALLY, IF YOU LOOK AT IT, IT'S HALF A YEAR.
YOU WORK HALF A YEAR BECAUSE YOU'RE WORKING 12 HOURS, EIGHT HOURS.
YOU, SO IT'S GONNA, NORMALLY YOU TELL SOMEBODY YOU'RE GONNA WORK HALF A YEAR BECAUSE YOU WORK 12 HOUR SHIFTS, YOU WORK FOR 12 DAY WHEN YOU START FIGURING THE HOURS, PEOPLE WORKING JUST AS MUCH.
I AT, UM, I JUST LOOKING AT THE NUMBER SIX DAYS AND PERSONAL DAYS.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT, IT'S SLOWER THAN WHAT IT WAS, THE ONE BEFORE THAT BECAUSE ALL THE FM A AND ALL LEFT US, BUT IT'S, IT'S COME DOWN QUITE A BIT.
WE'RE STILL NOT MEETING THE STATE AVERAGE.
I THINK THE STATE AVERAGE IS 2.28.
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MAKING DESIRE.IT'S A, IT'S A LITTLE BIT NOT AS BAD AS IT, WE HAD THE FUR.
WE HAD THE FURLOUGH, WE HAD ALL THAT STUFF IN.
THIS IS TRULY A MORE ACCURATE, UH, COUNTING ALL RIGHT.
OF FMLA AND ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE ADDED IN THAT DEAL, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE, HOW CAN WE GET DOWN TO THE STATE EFFORT TOO AT THIS POINT? I CAN'T TELL YOU IF YOU WANT MY HONEST OPINION, I CAN'T TELL YOU BECAUSE IT ALL RELIES ON PEOPLE COMING TO WORK, NOT CALLING IN SICK, COMING TO WORK, NOT GOING ON FMLA AND THEN THAT'S STUFF I CAN'T CONTROL.
ALL I CAN DO IS GIVE THEM INCENTIVE TO COME TO WORK, TRY TO GET EM TO WORK, BUT THEY EARN THEM DAYS FOR SICK AND I CAN'T EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY, YEAH, EVERYBODY, EVERY AREA'S GONNA FACE THAT.
AND IF ANY ONE OF US COULD COME UP WITH AN IDEA, WE WOULDN'T BE SITTING HERE BECAUSE WE'D BE SITTING MAKING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AT A MAJOR COMPANY.
I JUST LOOKING AT THAT SIX PERSONAL DAYS THAT SEEM LIKE ON TOP OF HOLIDAYS AND SICK DAYS, THAT'S QUITE A FEW DAYS OFF.
AND I'M SURE THAT AFFECTS THE OH YEAH.
IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN REDUCE THAT NUMBER OF PERSONAL DAYS WITHOUT, UH, HONESTLY, I, I REALLY DON'T DUNNO HOW WE, NO WAY YOU CAN LOOSE IT DOWN.
CHANGE, CHANGE, CHANGE, VACATION FROM 11 DAYS TO NINE DAYS OR WHATEVER.
I DUNNO IF THIS ONE GONNA DO THAT.
IN MY OPINION, I THINK WE'VE GOT IT DOWN PRETTY RARE.
WORK IN PROGRESS IS ALWAYS, IT'S JUST LIKE OUR WORKERS' COMP INSURANCE, UH, IT'S WORKING PRODUCT AND WE'RE ALWAYS WORKING ON AND HOW ARE WE DOING ON THAT? WE'RE DOING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING PRETTY GOOD.
I THINK THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, THIS LAST YEAR GONNA HURT ON THAT A LITTLE BIT, BUT OVERALL OUT THERE WE'VE DONE 10 TIMES ABOVE, WE'VE IMPROVED.
WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS WE WE'RE GONNA DO IS, RIGHT, THE WORKERS' COMP THAT'S BEING HANDLED THROUGH, UH, UH, FOR EVERYBODY.
WELL, WELL WE'RE, WE'RE STILL HANDLING OKAY.
WE, WE WANT ALL THE WORKERS' COMP, UH, LORI'S GONNA BE OVER, HR DEPARTMENT'S GONNA BE OVER EVERY BIT OF OUR INSURANCE BECAUSE WE NEED ONE DESIGNATED AREA AND HAS RECOMMENDED TO US OR TO HER THAT THAT NORMALLY IN A COUNTY OUR SIZE HANDLED BY THE HR, NOW THE AUDITOR IS NOT AT ALL, UH, SHE, SHE'S NOT BOTHERED ABOUT LOSING THAT WHATSOEVER.
BUT AS PART OF THAT, THE WORKERS' COMP WOULD NEED TO BE TOTALLY HANDLED BY LAURIE AND THAT'S FINE.
THE ONLY, THE ONLY REASON WE CHANGED THAT BACK THEN BECAUSE WE WERE NOT GETTING INFORMED RIGHT.
AND THAT I THINK LACK OF COMMUNICATION, WHAT HURTS US OUT THERE AND AS LONG AS WE HAVE A GOOD COMMUNICATION, WE'RE PERFECT BECAUSE WHAT WE RELY ON IS GETTING THAT INFORMATION BACK, MAKING SURE THEY CAN COME TO WORK OR US FOLLOWING UP WITH THEM BECAUSE IF WE DON'T FOLLOW UP WITH THEM OR MAKE 'EM COME SEE US ON A REGULAR BASIS, YEAH, THEY'RE OUTSIDE OUT OF MINE.
AND FOR US IT'S A BIG IMPACT BECAUSE I'M THE GOVERNMENT CALL, WE PAID THEM 100% MY THIRD DAY.
YEAH, MY THIRD DAY IN OFFICE, I HAD A VISIT FROM ATTACK INSURANCE.
THAT THE JUDGE GOTTA DO SOMETHING AND WE DID.
BUT I THINK WE'RE AT A POINT NOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN THAT THAT'S ALL I ASK.
I'M ALL FOR HER TAKING IT OFF.
ALL I ASK IS WE JUST HAD A GOOD COMMUNICATION BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT HELPS US MANAGE THAT OUT THERE SO WELL, OKAY.
UH, AND Y'ALL GONNA TAKE A QUICK BREAK? WORK IS BY THE GOOD.
ALRIGHT, LET'S PICK UP KIND WHERE WE LEFT OFF.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE, AND THEN LIKE SAY NEXT TAB YOU GO THROUGH BREAKDOWN.
WE COVERED THE QUOTE COVER PRICE INCREASE AND THEN LIKE SAY POSITION WE GOT THERE, WE GOT ONE CORPORAL AND SEVEN, UH, DETENTIONS THAT ARE OPEN THAT WE'RE TRYING TO FILL ON A DAILY BASIS IN DOING THAT.
THE, UH, I HAVE A QUESTION AND IT'S, AND IT'S PRETTY WELL THE SAME THING.
ENTRY LEVEL TEST IS STILL THE SAME.
WE'RE GETTING SOME PRETTY GOOD DECENT APPLICANTS, BUT SOME OF 'EM PASSING TEST AND THEN WE GET QUITE A FEW THAT BACKGROUND.
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GONNA START THEC OVER HERE.I, I THINK THIS WOULD BE, I BRING OUT HERE THE DEPARTMENT THERE REALLY COMES OUT AND BIG COME APPLY AT THE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT BECAUSE, SO I HE'S ANYBODY, ANYBODY, MAYBE THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING TO HIM.
WE'VE DONE THAT WITH UH, LIEUTENANT HILL, WE'VE GOT HIM GOING OUT TO ALL THESE AND WE'RE TRYING TO RECRUIT THAT AWAY WITH THE PEOPLE KNOW THE NEW PEOPLE WILL COME IF THEY'VE GOT A GOOD BACKGROUND AND GOT GOOD WORK ETHIC, THEY'LL COME TO WORK FOR US.
BUT ONCE AGAIN, WHAT WE'RE GETTING INTO IS THE TRAINING ONCE WE GET A COUPLE YEARS IN THEM, BECAUSE COUNTY WORK IS PROBABLY THE BEST WORKING, GETTING LAW ENFORCEMENT AND TRAINING BECAUSE IT'S A LOT DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES AND STUFF BECAUSE IN OUR ROOM YOU GO FROM A TO Z FROM CIVIL TO CAPITAL MURDER, YOU GET THIS EXPERIENCE AND FROM THE LAWS TO EVERYTHING THAT THE COUNTY HAS TO DO, THEY GET LOTS OF EXPERIENCE SERVING CIVIL PAPERS.
YOU DON'T GET THAT MUNICIPALITIES.
SO YOU GET THAT WIDE ROUND OF EXPERIENCE.
AND ONCE THEY FIGURE THAT OUT A COUPLE YEARS, EITHER THEY'RE GONNA GO TO DPS OR THEY'RE GONNA GO OTHERWISE.
AND EVERYBODY THAT'S LOOKING AT OUR PEOPLE WHEN WE GET TO 'EM, THEY WILL HIRE.
THERE'S NOT A DOUBT IN MY MIND BECAUSE GOING AND RODNEY CAN TELL THEY LOOK AT THAT, THEY LIKE TO SEE THE, THEY GET IN OUR COUNTY.
AND I, IT'S SAD TO SAY WE DO SO MUCH WORK DOWN HERE, BUT IT'S WHAT IT'S, AND WE LINE UP THROUGH THE TRAINING PROGRAM THAT WE'VE GOT GOING THERE WITH LIEUTENANT WOODS OVERSEEING THAT AND THE CHIEF HERE, THEY'VE GOT WORKING, IT'S WORKING REALLY GOOD FOR, FOR A LITTLE WHILE THEN THEY WIND UP.
BUT LIKE I SAY, WHEN YOU GET THE NEW PEOPLE, THE GOOD THING ABOUT IT, WE CAN TRAIN THEM WAY NOBODY CAN KNOW BAD AND THEN WE GET FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.
IF NOT, YOU KNOW, WE'LL GET SOME PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE COUNTY WANT STAY HERE AND WORK HERE.
THAT'S THE GOOD THING THAT WE DO GET SOMETIMES IS THEY WANT WORK HERE AND STAY.
I JUST WANNA KIND OF PUT THAT AFTER.
WE'RE WE'RE ASKING FOR ANYTHING TO HELP US GET PERSONNEL, GOOD PERSONNEL IS WHAT WE NEED.
ANYTHING ELSE? THE NEXT THING IS THE SCHOOL.
THE FIRST ONE, UH, THAT IS PRETTY WELL THE SAME.
UH, IT'S GOTTA ITEMIZED BREAKDOWN THROUGH UNIFORMS. THAT'S THE ONLY BIG THING.
THAT'S THE ONLY OPERATION WE GOT IN THE, THE REST OF IT PAID BY THE SCHOOL.
UM, AND IS PRETTY WELL COVERED.
THE ONLY THING I WILL TELL YOU TO BE STRAIGHT FRONT WITH YOU, WE'VE HAD SOME ISSUES KEEPING SOME PEOPLE OVER THERE.
WE'VE HAD TO OFFSET THAT A LITTLE BIT WITH THE AUTHOR.
UH, BUT WE'RE WORKING ON THAT AS WE SPEAK TO MAKE SURE THAT ANYTIME SOMEBODY LEAVES OVER THERE, WE HAVE THAT PLACE FIELD, WE DON'T IMPACT OUR BUDGET.
BUT OVERALL IT'S A WASH PROGRAM AND TAKES CARE OF IT.
I'M REALLY SURPRISED SHERIFF CONTINUE DO, THAT'S WHAT HE LIKES TO DO AND WE'RE GONNA SUPPORT HIM.
I MEAN IT, IT'S GROWING SO MUCH DOWN THERE AND THEN OUR OFFICERS ARE WORKING, GOING, WE CAN FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON.
SO IT, IT'S A GOOD THING FOR WE GET SOME GOOD TO THE OFFICER TALK PROBABLY.
SO I THINK IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM.
WELL THAT A AND THEN THAT, THAT PRETTY WELL COVERS THAT.
SO THAT'S UH, THAT'S PRETTY WELL SELF-FUNDED.
THEN WE GO TO THE BROWN TAB, WHICH IS THE NINE ONE ONE CALL CENTER.
UH, THAT'S PRETTY WELL THE SAME THING.
IT'S DROPPED JUST A LITTLE BIT.
ONCE AGAIN, WE'VE HAD PEOPLE, UH, LEAVE JUST LIKE OUR RECORD CLERK.
SHE JUST LEFT AND SHE WENT TO UNIVERSITY PARK.
SHE JUST PUT HER TURN TWO WEEKS HOME.
LIKE I SAY, STARTING TO PAY HERE IS, WHAT IS IT? 33 0, 32.
AND SHE JUST LEFT AND WENT TO UNIVERSITY PARK AND MAKING $15,000 A YEAR.
AND SHE JUMPED ON, SHE MOVED UP THERE COST ADVANCE.
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YEAH.AT THE END OF THE DAY WITH THEIR STEP PROGRAM, SHE'LL BE MAKING QUITE A BIT MORE AND, AND NOTHING AGAINST UNIVERSITY PARK.
THEIR COST VOLUME IS NOTHING LIKE OURS.
SO IT'S REALLY, SHE SHE'S GONNA DO LESS WORK AND, AND MAKE MORE MONEY.
LIKE I SAY, YOU CAN GO, THAT'S THE BREAKDOWN OF ALL WE'VE GOT IN THERE IS OFFICE SUPPLIES, UH, TRAINING AND UNIFORM.
BUT THEN THE LAST POSITION AGAIN BREAKS IT.
THE LAST TAB BREAKS ALL THE POSITION DOWN.
WE GOT A COMMUNICATION LIEUTENANT, FOUR SERGEANTS, FIVE CORPORALS AND THE CTO TRAINING COORDINATOR THAT ALSO IS A DISPATCHER.
AND THEN WE'VE GOT FOUR COMMUNICATIONS OFFICERS.
WE'VE GOT A WARRANT CLERK SERGEANT THAT OVERSEES THE TWO RECORDS AND COMMUNICATION.
RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT ONE CORPORAL, UH, CTO POSITION AND THEN THREE COMMUNICATIONS.
THAT'S BEEN ANOTHER AREA OF TRYING TO KEEP PEOPLE SPREAD.
SO PRETTY WELL THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AS A WHOLE, I WOULD SAY WE'VE BEEN ABOUT ANYWHERE 10 TO 15 DOWN AT ANY ANY POINT.
HOW MANY DISPATCH STATIONS DO Y'ALL HAVE THERE? WE WE HAVE FOUR.
AND THE NEW PLACE IS GONNA HAVE EIGHT.
MY, UNDER MY UNDERSTANDING, THE LAST THING WE TALKED ABOUT IS WE'RE GONNA HAVE EIGHT, BUT WE'RE GONNA DO SIX.
WE'LL HAVE EXPAND TO DO TWO HAVE TO INCREASE BY 50%.
I I WE SEE THE NUMBERS AND SEE THE CAUSE I DON'T, I DON'T, I REALLY DON'T KNOW UNTIL WE CAN GET EVERYTHING PUT TOGETHER.
I WOULDN'T THINK WE'D HAVE TO INCREASE BY 50%.
I THINK IF WE WANT TO GO BACK TO THE LAST DEAL THAT WE DID AT, UH, MISSION CRITICAL, UH, THE ONLY THING THEY ADDED WAS THE PEOPLE FROM AND UH, AND I WANNA SAY THAT WAS 10 PEOPLE, MAYBE TOTAL, MAYBE NOT THAT MUCH.
IT, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN LIKE EIGHT.
THAT'S JUST OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
WHY WOULD YOU NOT HAVE TO HAVE 16 COMMUNICATION OFFICERS IF YOU GOT ATIONS? WELL, I MEAN YOU GOTTA LOOK, THESE, THESE SERGEANTS ARE ALSO WORKING, THEY'RE OVERSEEING THE SHIFT, BUT THEY'RE, THEY SIT DOWN AND GIVE BREAKS AND, AND THEY DISPATCH.
SO THEY, THAT AND THE CORPORAL, THEY'RE SITTING THERE WORKING, DOING THE SAME JOB.
IF WE'VE GOT A BRAND NEW TRAINER, THE CT, THE CORPORAL IS ONLY THERE CONTROLLING THAT PERSON, MAKING SURE THE PHONE CALL, WHEN THEY PICK THAT PHONE UP, THEY'RE MAKING SURE THEY'RE GIVING THEM THE RIGHT INFORMATION.
THEY'RE TAKING THE RIGHT INFORMATION.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SO, WHICH IS A NAME.
THEY'RE ACTUALLY, YOU GOT, YOU'VE GOT 16 PEOPLE.
I GOT 16 PEOPLE SITTING THERE.
THEY'VE GOT DIFFERENT NAMES THOUGH, RIGHT.
AND THEY, THEY'VE GOT DIFFERENT TASKS.
EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE CORPORAL, THEY GOTTA KEEP UP ALL THE RECORDS OF ANYBODY.
WE GOTTA TURN THAT INTO STATE.
'CAUSE NOW IF YOU REMEMBER, THESE PEOPLE ARE LICENSED BY THE STATE NOW THEY HAVE TO BE LICENSED JUST LIKE A DETENTION OFFICER AND A PEACE OFFICER.
WE'VE GOT TEMPORARY LICENSE FOR A YEAR AND WE'VE GOTTA HAVE THEM TRAINED BY WITHIN A YEAR.
SO WE'VE GOTTA GIVE OFF AND SIGN OFF EVERYTHING.
AND THEY'RE TRAINING SO MANY HOURS.
WELL THEY GET THEIR BASIC CERTIFICATES THE SAME THING AS THE OFFICER OR DETENTION OFFICER.
SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE CTO AND WHICH WE NEED TO TRAIN OUR PEOPLE TO, TO DO THE JOB.
I KNOW ONCE WHEN I VISITED THE JAIL, Y'ALL HAD A UH, PERSON, I THINK Y'ALL CALL HIM WARRANTS.
WE HAVE WARRANT AROUND THE CORNER FROM THE DISPATCH.
IF, IF WE MOVE OUT HERE, THEY WILL MOVE WITH IT.
AND ONCE AGAIN WE NEED TO KEEP THAT TOGETHER BECAUSE IF WE HAVE A BIG INCIDENT, AUTOMATICALLY THEY COME IN COMMUNICATION T THEY DO THE SAME THING.
BUT WE DO ABOUT, I THINK THE REPORT I SEND OUT AND YOU CAN SEE IT ONLINE AND I ALWAYS DO A MONTHLY REPORT.
WE DO ANYWHERE FROM 600 TO 800 WARRANTS IN AND OUT OF THAT OFFICE.
AND THEN THE STATE IN WHICH I HAVE A AUDIT TODAY FROM DPS THAT ARE OUT THERE ON THE SECURITY, WHICH CEASE THAT WE HAVE TO DO.
THEY'RE OUT THERE TODAY AUDIT.
WE GOTTA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S GOT THE SECURITY AUDIT.
EVERYBODY, EVERY PERSONNEL THAT LOOKS IN SECURE.
SO WE'RE GETTING THAT DPS OFF TODAY, WHICH I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANY PROBLEM.
UH, I BELIEVE WE DO A GOOD JOB'S, A LOT OF WORK TO MAINTAIN EVERYBODY TO DO THAT.
AND THE REASON THAT WARRANTS HAVE TO BE THERE IS IF SOMEBODY CALLS IN, IF ANY OFFICER SHOWS BE A WARRANT, YOU'VE GOTTA HAVE A HARD COPY OF THE WARRANT FOR YES, WITH DPS AND COMMUNICATIONS, IF WE ENTER ANY WARRANT, WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO TOUCH THAT WARRANT 10 MINUTES AND HAVE IT IN OUR HAND A ORIGINAL WARRANT THAT IS SIGNED TO STANDBY BY WHATEVER JUDGE ISSUES THAT WARRANT.
SO WE NOT ONLY DO THAT FOR OUR OFFICERS, BUT WE DO FOR US.
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ALL IN CITY OR ABOUT D-P-S-D-P-S WILL BRING A FEW THEY MOST TIME THEY GET THERE, BUT ALL THE ONES THAT COMES OUT.AND SO THE FACILITY THAT BEING DESIGNED WE'RE WORKING ON, OR THAT'S ALREADY DESIGNED EIGHT STATION PACK EIGHT POSITIONS, I THINK EIGHT POSITIONS.
SO WE'RE ALREADY GOING SIX CONSOLES AT THIS.
THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT'S WHY WE TALKED ABOUT THE LAST LOOKING AT IT SO THAT WE CAN GROW WHERE WE CAN HAVE RUN.
WE GOT, I MEAN IT'D BE FULL ON OUR PART NOT TO SET IT.
WELL THAT'S GOING BE MY NEXT QUESTION.
WITH THE JAIL BUILT THE SIZE THAT WAS BUILT AT THE TIME, YOU WOULD'VE THOUGHT THEY WOULD'VE BUILT IT TO EXPAND TO, YOU KNOW, MORE ON THE STATION? WELL THE DISPATCH YEAH.
THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE PROBABLY WASN'T THOUGHT OUT AS MUCH AS THE JAIL SIDE.
HONESTLY, IF YOU WANNA KNOW WHO MY ASPECT OF LOOKING AT IT, BECAUSE YOU LOOK AT OUR CID OFFICES, OUR PATROL OFFICES, ALL OUR STUFF, WE REALLY, WE MOVED INTO SOMETHING THAT THE EVIDENCE ROOM, NO, YEAH, THE EVIDENCE ROOM.
I MEAN WE, WE MOVED INTO SOMETHING THAT WE WAS CAPABLE OF DOING BUT NOW NEVER REALLY CAPABLE OF EXPANDING THE WHOLE MONTH.
SO I THINK YEARS AND MOVING THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO SOME MOVING.
NOW WHAT'S THE PLANS FAR WHERE THE CURRENT DISPATCH CENTER IS
THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA TO GET DOWN AND GET THE NUMBERS AND LOOK AND SEE WHO NEEDS MORE AIR, WHO NEED, WHO NEEDS SPACE.
SIR, I PROMISE YOU THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN.
YEAH, THERE WON'T BE PUT THEIR NAME IF YOU LOOK WHERE THEY'RE AT, IT IS A LITTLE SMALL HOLE WHERE THEY'RE AT THAT SHE'S STILL IN THE EVIDENCE ROOM.
IN THE ROOM OF THE EVIDENCE ROOM.
IT'S IN THE OLD TRAINING WHERE THAT JUST GOT THAT LITTLE C THERE.
SO THERE'S A LOT, LOT OF ROOM WE'VE GOTTA LOOK AT DOING THAT.
YOU KNOW, THE SERVER ROOMS ARE THAT ONE ROOM.
SO WE'LL HAVE TO EVALUATE AND, AND LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHAT'S THE BEST FIT FOR THAT AREA.
ONE OF THE THINGS I DO WANT TO CLEAR UP, I THINK THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION.
THERE IS A ROOM AT THE VERY FAR END OF THE ARMY BY THE BIG OVERHEAD DOOR.
UH, YOU KNOW, YOU HAD A LONG ROOM OVER THERE.
DID YOU SAY THAT WAS THEIR MUNITIONS ROOM, RIGHT? WHERE THEY KEPT ALL THEIR HEAVY UNION STUFF THAT IS THE ROOM.
SOMEONE SAID WE WERE GONNA USE IT FOR A BREAK ROOM OR A DISPATCHER SERVICE AREA OR JUST THE REST AREA OR SOMETHING.
THAT'S THE ROOM THAT I, I, I PERSONALLY HAD INTENDED ON TURNING INTO THE UH, FIRE MARSHAL WHERE THE FIRE MARSHAL WOULD BE LOCATED AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD DO.
I MEAN INTERNALLY OUR GUYS WOULD DO.
IN FACT THEY DID THAT WITH STEVE WHERE ALL STEVE OFFICE IS THERE.
I DUNNO WHERE THAT DISCUSSION GOT STARTED ABOUT IT BEING USED FOR ANOTHER AREA.
THERE'S BEEN SO MUCH DISCUSSION IN ALL THE ROOMS FOR THEM BEING IN THE FRONT ROOM ROOM TO BEING IN THAT BACK ROOM.
SO THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S BEEN IN PLACE.
THERE'S BEEN SO MUCH TALKED ABOUT THE WHOLE THING IN GENERAL.
SO I UNDERSTAND THAT AND I DO KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE GANG BOARD NEEDS IN PLACE THAT WE'VE UH, DISCUSSED HIM.
WE DO NEED SOMEBODY THAT COMES IN, WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION I WHERE THEY COME IN TO PAY FEE OR A LICENSE OR PERMIT FROM THE FIRE MARSHAL OR AN INSPECTION OR SOMETHING.
I ENVISION THAT BEING AN OPEN THEIR REGULAR BUSINESS HOUR.
KNOW WHERE SOMEBODY CAN COME IN THAT FRONT, THE VESTI AREA.
WOULD THAT BE A GOOD IDEA? BUSINESS THERE AND SECURITY WISE,
THAT'S A BIG THING THEN, WHICH I THINK ALL THE COMMUNICATIONS ROOMS, THE ACCESS DOOR THERE WILL ALSO BE LOCKED.
WE NEED TO KEEP THAT SECURITY.
SO THERE'S TWO LEVELS OF SECURITY.
THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
WE WOULD'VE THE SECOND SET OF DOORS TO GO THROUGH.
YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE A YEAH, SOMEBODY THEY HAVE SOMEBODY BUZZ A DISC IN OR SOMETHING COME.
BUT WE DO HAVE THOSE THREE OFFICES EARLY.
LOOKED AT MAYBE MOVING A COUPLE HER PEOPLE OUT THERE, BUT THAT'S SO INCONVENIENT, YOU KNOW, BEING WAY OUT THERE.
BUT I KNOW THIS IS STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS.
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DOWN THAT BRIDGE.ANY QUESTIONS ON THE CALL CENTER CONSTRUCTION? START 12 DAYS.
AND COMPLET BY 1223 THE OPERATION WIDTH 1223 WILL BE COMPLETE.
THE, THE NEXT IS THE PURPLE ON THE VERY TOP FRESH WATER SERVICE DISTRICT, WHICH IS WIND FARM OFFICER.
LIKE I SAY, NOTHING'S IN THERE.
THAT ONLY THING IS THEY'RE PAYING LIKE 91 9 6, THE EQUIPMENT AND THE VEHICLES PRORATED OVER THREE YEARS THAT THERE'S NO CHANGE.
PRETTY WELL THEY WASH, THEY PAY, THEY PAY FOR SO THERE'S NOT, THERE'S NOT DISCUSSION.
SOMEBODY ELSE DO THAT EARLIER I GUESS WAS DOING HARLAND.
WE DID THE HARLAND ANDALL IS NOW TAKING OVER HARLAND AS FAR AS I KNOW.
THIS IS THE ONLY ONE WE DOING IF I'M HOPING WE'RE NOT DOING ANYMORE.
BUT WE DO THE ONE THING ABOUT IT, THIS IS IN OUR AREA, WE GOTTA RESPOND ANYHOW.
SO IF THEY'LL PAY FOR OUR OFFICER, I THINK IT'S BETTER FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.
WE ALWAYS HAVE SOMEBODY TO BACK UP.
UM, I NEED TO ANSWER THE QUESTION ON THE UM,
UH, I HAD THE VEHICLE OFF THE VEHICLE.
UH, SAFETY EQUIPMENT'S ALREADY BEEN BOUGHT TOO, HUH? YES, BUT THAT, REMEMBER THAT'S BEEN PRORATED OVER THREE YEARS.
I KNOW THAT THAT'S IN THE REVENUE SIDE, NOT THE EXPENDITURE SIDE.
AS LONG AS LONG AS YOU'RE, YOU'RE HAPPY WITH YES, THE UNIFORM WILL CONTINUE BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE TO UPGRADE.
YEAH, THEY, THEY INCOME WOULD BE PRORATED.
I ALREADY A YEAR ALREADY BEEN.
SO INDEED THAT DEPARTMENT IS NOT COSTING US 91,000.
IT'S GONNA BE COSTING US $50,000 FOR THE EMPLOYEE BENEFITS.
I'LL BE BUILDING BILLING THEM $91,000.
THAT WAS, THAT WAS INTENT ON, YEAH, NO OFFENSE TO US.
AND THE REST OF IT IS, IS WE HAVE TO PREVENT PRESENT A BUDGET ANYHOW.
THAT'S OUR ASSET FOR IN OUR WHAT ABOUT THE COMMISSARY? THE COMMISSARY? UH, I DUNNO WHAT, WHAT'S IN IT RIGHT NOW? WHERE IS IT MAINTAINED? IT'S MAINTAINED THERE.
WE, I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT'S IN IT RIGHT NOW.
WHAT WE DO IS ALL THE TVS AND EVERYTHING WE PAY.
SO YOU PAY CELL PHONES? NO CELL PHONES COME OUTTA ASSET FOR ASHLEY PARK.
THAT, THAT COMMISSARY MONEY CAN ONLY BE USED FROM
SO COMMISSARY CAN ONLY BE USED FOR BENEFIT OF THE INMATES.
AND JUST, I JUST HAD A WILD IDEA.
WHY COULDN'T YOU, WHY COULDN'T YOU START BUYING AIR CONDITIONER TO START REPLACING SOME MORE 58 AIR CONDITIONERS.
THAT'S WHY WE BOUGHT, WE NEED START, START SELLING MORE PEANUTS AND POPCORN
AND THAT'S WHAT I SAY WE PAID FOR THE TV SERVICE OUT THERE BECAUSE WE HAD TO GO DIGITAL LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE DID.
SO WE PAID FOR ALL THAT AND EVERY TV IN THERE, INMATES PAY FOR IT.
TAXPAYERS AIN'T PAYING NOTHING FOR THAT.
AND THEN PERIODICALLY WHAT WE HAVE DONE AND WHEN THE MONEY'S THERE, IF WE HAVE A DISHWASHER, I MEAN A UH WASHING MACHINE GOES OUT.
WE DO SOME DOMESTIC, THE SMALLER FOR THE SHEETS AND STUFF AND THE TOWELS THAT DON'T TAKE A HEAVY DUTY, WE WE PURCHASE THAT LIKE THAT.
SO WE TRY TO USE THAT FUND EFFICIENT AND MAKE SURE WE USE IT.
SO THERE'S NEVER ENOUGH MONEY IN THERE TO START PERSON AIR CONDITION.
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BEEN BUILDING THAT MONEY FOR YEARS WHEN I FIRST MADE CHIEF AND THE PROBLEM THAT WE COME ALONG IS WE HAD THAT LITTLE BIT OF BUS YOU SEE EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, ONCE 105 OUTSIDE, YOU TAKE THESE PEOPLE AS MANY IN JAIL AND ACC THAT AIR CONDITION AND PUT 'EM IN THERE.AND THEY HAD SET THERE FOR A LITTLE BIT.
IT WAS A CONCERN OF MINE THAT I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE I WOULD TAKE THE LIABILITY OR THE COUNTY NEEDED TO TAKE THE LIABILITY.
AND THEN WE HAD A TRANSPORT OFFICER WHEN WE HAD PEOPLE IN WHEELCHAIR, THEY GOT HURT AND WAS OUT FOR THREE WEEKS BECAUSE HE HURT HIS BACK LIFTING THE WHEELCHAIR UP AND PUTTING THAT PERSON IN THE CAR.
SO WE JUST FLEW THAT ALL IN THERE, WENT BY THE EIGHT G OFFICE.
HEY, IF WE BUY A BUS FOR 109,000, IT'S ONLY USED TO TRANSPORT INMATES TO THE COURTHOUSE OR IF WE NEED TO TRANSPORT THEM, CAN WE SPEND THAT MONEY FOR THAT? AND THEN THE TIME CONTROL AND DOING THAT PLUS A SECURE, MORE SECURE BUCK, THEY AGREED TO IT AND THAT'S WHY WE BOUGHT IT DIDN'T COST, THE TAXPAYER DID NOT.
THERE'S VERY MUCH THAT THAT WAS ONE.
THE ONLY THING TAXPAYERS DOING IS MAINTAIN CHANGING THE OIL.
IT SAVING FOR A LONG, LONG IT HAD BECAUSE WE, I MEAN NOW WE BUY QUITE TVS.
ARE WE COLLECTING, WE'VE GOT INTO A TASK FORCE, A DRUG TASK FORCE ASSET, FEDERAL ASSET FOR ARE WE COLLECTING WE MAKING ANY MUCH OFF THAT? WE'RE MAKING A FEW BUT LIKE I SAY WE'VE GOTTA USE THAT AND WE PAY FOR THESE CARS THAT WE GET.
SEE FOR US WE'VE GOTTA PAY THE FEDERAL, THE FEDS A CERTAIN AMOUNT, 10 CENTS WHAT IT WORTH.
SO WE USE THAT MONEY TO PAY FOR THAT CAR TO GET THAT CAR COUNTY TO USE.
ONCE WE TAKE THAT ASSET, WE GOTTA HOLD THAT ASSET FOR TWO YEARS.
WE CANNOT SELL IT IF WE SELL THAT VEHICLE OR BEFORE THAT WE HAVE TO GO GET PERMISSION FROM AND DO ALL THAT.
THE FEDERAL GUIDELINES ON MAKE MONEY IS VERY STRICT.
SO IT'S 10 PEOPLE, THERE'S 10 DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
SO WE GO OUT AND GET HUNDRED THOUSAND EVERYBODY'S PUT IN.
BUT WE ALL OTHER, OTHER AGENCIES THAT'S INVOLVED IN THAT TASK FORCE.
THE FEDS PART OF DIFFERENT, SO IT'S NOT JUST LIKE NO IT'S NOT JUST THE COUNTY.
AND THEN WE'RE PROBABLY ONLY AGENCY IN PROBLEM.
IT'S KIND OF ONE OF THOSE, YOU GET INVITED SO WHEN THEY, THEY UH, PICK UP SOMETHING OVER THERE AND THE OTHER IES WE DON'T, WE GET PERCENTAGE OF THAT.
OUR PERSON THAT IS PAYING FOR THAT AND IF THEY PAY A PORTION OF HIS SALARY AND OVERTIME IN THAT.
BUT WHEN WE DO THAT, WE GET A PERCENTAGE OF THAT.
BUT ALSO WE GOT THE RESOURCES, WE AND WE'VE USED THEM SEVERAL TIMES.
OUR NARCOTIC GETS DOWN HERE, WE GET KIND OF CELL NEED.
SOME PEOPLE COME DOWN, WE GET THEM PEOPLE TO COME DOWN HERE AND HELP US WITH THAT CASE.
AND THEN IF WE DON'T BELIEVE WE NEED FILE STATE.
MILLION DOLLAR COCAINE S**T DOWN THERE.
WE'RE TRYING, WE'RE TRYING BUT WE HAVE NOT GOT THERE YET.
ALRIGHT, UH, WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AND I'LL GET THAT OTHER, WE'LL GET THAT CAR STUFF FOR YOU.
UM, AND WE'LL GET THAT TO YOU AND I'LL, I'LL SEND THAT TO YOU AND LIKE I SAY, WE'RE GONNA APPRECIATE EVERYBODY I OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AND AND DO WHAT WE'VE DONE AND I HOPE WE PRESENTED A GOOD BUDGET AND DETAILS LIKE WE WANTED DO.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME AND RODNEY AT ANY TIME.
I THINK THIS WAS THE PROBABLY THE BEST PRESENTATION WE HAD.
MOST COMPREHENSIVE WE DID IT DID ASK RODNEY FOR THE LATE, I SAID HEY LET'S GO LOOK AT THE TIMEKEEPING SYSTEM AND I'LL SHOW YOU SOME LATE HOURS AND IT SURE WASN'T IT FINE.
YOU THAT'S REALLY GOOD EXPLANATION.
WELL THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO AND LIKE I SAY, WE, WE'VE DONE SOME BUT I THINK WE NEED TO, WE'VE GOTTA STEP IT UP AND AND SHOW A LITTLE MORE.
AND I JACK TOLD JUDGE I MENTIONED MOST DEPARTMENTS WE DEAL WITH MY DEPARTMENT OR UNPREPARED FOR KNOWING WHAT ACCOUNT NUMBER, KNOWING WHAT THEIR BUDGET IS BEYOND THE DOUBT.
THE SO IS PREPARED DEAL, KNOW WHERE THE MONEY'S COMING FROM, KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE THEIR BUDGET, EXCLUDING THE COUNTY JUDGE EXCLUDING FIVE AS LONG.
BRIAN, YOU WANT TO TALK WITH HIM ABOUT
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HOW WE'RE GONNA DO THE UNIFORM THING? OH YEAH.UH, THE UNIFORM AS FAR AS UH, THE CID OFFICERS, UH, IF YOU'LL KNOW IF WE, WE'VE HAD A DISCUSSION BETWEEN JACK AND ALL OF US WORKING THAT BECAUSE WE USED TO, EVERYBODY GOES TO ONE PLACE BIKE.
WELL NOT EVERYBODY LIKES WEARING AND STUFF.
THREE OF US, WE'VE GOT P AND I THAT JUST DON'T CARE TO WEAR WESTERN STUFF.
THEY WANT WEAR NICE OR SLACKS OR SOMETHING.
SO YEAH, SEE HE GOT HIS BOOTS ON HE THEY DO THAT.
SO WE'VE WORKED WITH THE AUDITORS AND UH, PURCHASING.
WHAT WE'VE GOING TO DO IS WE'VE ALWAYS LO IN $600 FOR UNIFORM ALLOWANCE TO KEEP THEM LOOKING GOOD TIES ALL THIS STUFF.
AND WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST IS WE'VE DONE DONE IT THROUGH R SANDERS OR THROUGH UH, LONG STAR OUR UNIFORM PEOPLE.
BUT WE'VE GOT WOMEN AND THEY CAN'T GET SOME.
SO WE, WE'VE WORKED THIS OUT WHERE WE'RE GONNA ALLOT IT.
'CAUSE WHAT HAPPENS SOMETIMES IS INDIVIDUALS WILL DECIDE TO GO BUY A BUNCH OF STUFF WELL BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR OUT.
GUESS WHAT HAPPENED? THEY LEFT.
WE'VE WORKED OUR SYSTEM, WE'VE COME TO A GOOD DECISION THAT EVERY QUARTER YOU'LL GET $150, YOU'LL GET THAT 50 IT WILL BE APPROVED BY THE CHIEF, WHICH IS RODNEY TO SEE ALL THAT TO MAKE SURE IT'S ADEQUATE STUFF THAT YOU NEED TO BE WEARING.
IT'S NOTHING THAT DON'T NEED TO BE ON THAT IF YOU'LL APPROVE IT AND THEN WE'LL GET THEM TO ISSUE THEM A CHECK TO REIMBURSE THEM FOR THAT.
BUT THEY'LL INITIALLY PAY FOR IT AND THEN WE'LL REIMBURSE THEM FOR THAT.
AND THAT WAY WE CAN STREAMLINE THIS A LOT BETTER AND GET OUR PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE NEED TO LET THEM DECIDE IF THEY WANNA WEAR DIFFERENT THAN WESTERN.
I WEAR WESTERN ALL DAY LONG TO THESE YOUNGER PEOPLE.
YES SOMETIMES THEY CAN SHOP AROUND AND DO THAT AND GET A BETTER DEAL.
AND IN THE DISCUSSION I HAD WITH THE SHERIFF WHEN HE WAS, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS, UM, I SAID WELL YOU KNOW YOU GIVE THEM $600 UP FRONT AND THEY GO BUY CLOTHES AND THEN THEY LEAVE.
HOW ARE YOU GONNA SUPPLY YOUR NEXT GUY? THEY SAID, WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST? I SAID, LET'S DO IT IN QUARTER.
SO THEY GET 50, GO GET WHAT THEY WANT, BRING THE RECEIPTS BACK AND WE'D LIKE TO CHECK FOR.
ALRIGHT SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE Y'ALL ABOUT YEAH.
BUT OVERALL, YOU KNOW, WE GREATLY APPRECIATE EVERYBODY HERE, ESPECIALLY ALL THE PERSONS THAT THEY WORK WITH US VERY WELL AND I KNOW WE'RE A BIG PART OF THE BUDGET BUT WE'RE TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN OUT THERE AND LET EVERYBODY DO Y'ALL MILLION.
I WAS, WE TRY EVERY DAY TO GET THAT.
APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, APPRECIATE IT.
AND UH, THEY ARE NOT HERE THIS MORNING.
AND THE BIGGEST THING WE PROVIDE TO THEM IS, IS TWO SECRETARIES THAT WORK FULLTIME OVER AT THE PS OFFICE AND THEY ALL INCLUDED IN RIGHT.
HAPPY BECAUSE I SEE THEM FROM TIME.
AND I THINK, I THINK THEY STAY BUSY.
I THINK THEY DO NUMBER PRETTY ACTIVE.
AND UH, THE OTHER THING WE DO TIME TO WE, THEIR WEIGHT STATION, YOU KNOW, DOWN THERE ON INTERSTATE POINT WE DO PROVIDE THE UH, FORTIFIED THING AND THEN WE PROVIDE WE SOMEBODY TO GET LOOKING FOR BUYING BOTTLED WATER.
WELL THEY WATER DOWN THERE SO WE, WE DO PROVIDE WATER FOR THEM AT THE UH, AT THAT SITE.
AND I THINK WE ALSO PROVIDE ARGUMENTS FOR DPS.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE D PS $4,000 WORTH OF OFFICE SUPPLY? THAT ACTUALLY INCLUDES UH, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE PRINTERS AND THAT KIND STUFF.
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IS THE RADAR UNITS WITH THEY UNDER THAT COMMUNICATION BUDGET OF 12,000.CELL PHONES THAT'S CUT WAY WHILE BACK.
YEAH, WE STILL GOT, THEY ASKED FOR 12,000 BUT THEY'VE ONLY SPENT THROUGH 30TH.
LAST YEAR THEY ONLY SPENT 65 7 9.
AND THAT HAS HAPPENED WHETHER THE STATE HAS THE MONEY FOR IT OR NOT, WE COULD THAT BACK.
I KNOW WE DID DISCUSS THAT JACK.
WE PUT A LOT OF PHONES ON ON, THEY CALL IT ON PARK OR NOT USING THE MEAL.
THEY GOT PEOPLE COMING AND GOING, LEAVING DIFFERENT AREAS AND AT ONE TIME THAT THING JUST KEPT GOING MONTHLY AND THEN WE CAUGHT ON THAT.
SO WE, WE CUT IT TO SIX, 6,000.
UH, THIS IS EXTENSION SERVICE.
YOU GOT HELP HER THERE WITH YOU DO.
SHE'S LEARNING ABOUT GOVERNMENT.
HOW ARE Y'ALL TODAY? YES, WE'RE GOOD.
UH, WE'RE JUST, UH, THIS YOU DOING A LITTLE DIFFERENT THIS YEAR THAN WHAT WE'VE DONE.
IN FACT, WE JUST COMBINED HAVING Y'ALL COME BACK TWICE, YOU KNOW, WE JUST THOUGHT WE DO TOGETHER.
I THINK WE, UH, WE WE'RE GOING TO BE QUITE EASY ON Y'ALL THIS YEAR.
WE'RE GIVING YOU $1,750 BACK FROM OUR BUDGET.
UH, BUT WE BOUGHT TWO COMPUTERS LAST YEAR.
WE THINK WE'RE IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE WITH, WITH WHAT WE'VE GOT.
UH, OTHER THAN WE MAY HAVE TO BUY A PRINTER OR SOMETHING, BUT WE'RE, WE WON'T NEED TO SPEND THE $1,750 THAT WE SPENT THIS YEAR.
SO WE TOOK THAT OUT OF OUR BUDGET AND UH, THAT WAS REALLY THE ONLY CHANGE WE MADE.
UH, THAT'S LINE 31 65, RIGHT? 6 65 31 3 6 5.
IT'S LIKE 12, BUT I THINK, ISN'T THAT WHAT WE, WE KEPT IN THERE, CHANGE TWO 12.
WE, WE WE'RE LEAVING 1250 IN THERE.
WE ALWAYS, UH, USED, UH, SOME COMPUTER MONEY, UH, DURING THE YEAR, OF COURSE TO BUY GLASS STICKS.
I, I THINK I'M GOING ABOUT TO BUY ONE PRINTER THIS YEAR, BUT THE 1,250 MORE THAN COVER THAT, WHATEVER ELSE WE, WE CHARGE OFF THE COMPUTER BUTTON.
YOU HAD A GOOD PARTICIPATION LAST WEEK.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS ONE OF THE BETTER INTERPRETATION EVENTS WE HAD.
I WAS REAL PICK WITH THE FOUR EDGE KIDS.
DID, DID A GREAT JOB OF DOING THEIR SCIENCE PROJECTS AND, UM, PRETTY GOOD ATTENDANCE WAS EXCEPTIONAL.
SO IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE COME AND GOING.
IT TURNED INTO COME AND STAY YEAH.
HANG OUT FOR A WHILE, WHICH WAS OKAY WITH US FARM BUREAU AND
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THEY ALWAYS UP.WE PAY FOR A LITTLE BIT OUT, OUT THAT, UH, CAKE HAY EVERY YEAR.
ALSO IN AUSTIN, WE HAD ALL OF YOU.
I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY COMING OUT.
IT'S MAY THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'VE HAD ALL OF YOU COME TO AN EVENT.
WE HAD, WE, WE GOT THE, THE CROWD THAT WE REALLY WANTED.
SEE OUR, SEE IT'S KIND OF GOOD CLUB.
THAT, THAT WAS YOUR IDEA AND THAT WAS A GREAT IDEA.
I'LL REMEMBER THAT EVERY YEAR.
OUR REGIONAL PROGRAM LEADER FROM OVERTON CAME AND STAYED THE ENTIRE EVENT'S THE FIRST TIME THAT'S HAPPENED FOR US BECAUSE HE, HE KINDA, UH, GIVES US IDEAS ABOUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO ALL YEAR LONG WHEN WE'RE DOING PROGRAM PLANNING AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
HE REALLY LIKED THAT FORMAT, THE WAY WE PUT THE, ON THAT BACK AND TRY TO SOME OTHER COUNTIES THINK ABOUT THE SAME FORMAT SO THEY COULD HAVE BETTER PARTICIPATION.
ANY QUESTION? THIS, THIS BUDGET THERE ANOTHER ONE OR TWO? ANY QUESTIONS FOR ANY, ANYBODY AT THE EXTENSION? THEN THE OTHER BUDGET, IS THAT FUND 6, 6 7 OR DEPARTMENT SIX SEVEN? THAT'S THE, UH, FOUR EIGHT BUDGET.
IS THERE A REASON WE KEEP THOSE, UH, THE TWO BUDGETS? IS IT FOR Y'ALL? FOR, FOR ME ON THAT ONE.
IT HELPS WHEN, UH, PLANNING WITH OUR PLANNING GROUPS, UM, BECAUSE EACH ONE OF US HAVE OUR OWN PLANNING GROUPS.
SO IT KIND OF HELPS US WHEN WE'RE DOING EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMMING.
UM, LIKE WHEN WE'RE DOING OUR, UH, WE DO A TEACHER IN SERVICE TRAINING EVERY YEAR EXCEPT FOR THIS YEAR.
UM, IT HELPS US WITH, UH, KEEPING OUR, OUR ACCOUNTS THAT WAY, SEPARATE PLANNING THAT WAY.
I TAKE, WHEN I DO FOOD DEMONSTRATIONS, I TAKE IT OUT OF THIS ACCOUNT VERSUS THE EDUCATION ACCOUNT.
WELL, AND THE AG PART OF IT, WHEN WE HAVE TO, UH, SOME OF OUR, UH, PROGRAM ITEMS ARE FAIRLY LARGE TO BUY THE, TO DO DEMONSTRATIONS.
LIKE, LIKE THE AG CHEMICALS WE BUY, UH, Y DOG FROM US ALL COME FROM THIS AG AG ACCOUNT THAT COMES OUT.
THE EDUCATION PART OF THAT THING, UH, TO DO THE AG PROGRAMS AND SAID WE CHEMICALS THAT ARE USED IN, UH, RESEARCH, DEMONSTRATION PLOT OR AROUND THE COUNTY AS WE AS WE NEED THIS.
SPEAKING OF FERAL HOS,
I, I HAVE A STANDING ORDER TO THE TDA, LET ME KNOW.
THIS IS TWO YEARS IN A ROW NOW THAT IT HADN'T BEEN FUNDED.
UH, I DUNNO IF IT'LL BE FUNDED AGAIN THIS YEAR OR NOT.
WHAT, WHAT IS THE BIG ISSUE OF FUNDING? TDAI MEAN IT, IT'S A TDA PROGRAM.
I MEAN, HOW MUCH DID THEY FUND? WHAT KIND OF MONEY DID I THINK WHEN THEY GAVE IT AWAY THE YEAR BEFORE, IT WAS LIKE $25,000.
UH, SOME, SOMEWHERE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD TOTAL, THEY GAVE AWARDS TO THE TOP THREE COUNTIES.
UH, SEEMED LIKE, SEEMED LIKE IT WAS 10,000 THE FIRST COUNTY AND THEN THE OTHER SPLIT OUT TWO COUNTIES THAT DID THAT DEAL.
WELL, I'M JUST TALKING OUT LOUD WHETHER IT MAKES ANY SENSE OR NOT.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD PROJECT? AND I KNOW THERE'S ALL KINDS OF ISSUES THAT YOU GOT PEOPLE FROM SURROUNDING COUNTY AND ALL THAT.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE A PROJECT THAT WE MIGHT SPONSOR? I MEAN, WITHOUT SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY, YOU KNOW, JUDGE, I DON'T KNOW.
I, UH, YOU, YOU WOULD RUN OUT OF YOUR MONEY REAL QUICK.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE COUNTY DID ERADICATION PROGRAM FIVE, SIX YEARS AGO AND WHAT, WHAT THE, UH, WHAT THEY HAD TO DO WAS CUT THE EARS OFF AND BRING, I I'M THINKING TO THE EXTENSION JUST FROM THE EARS, BUT THEY RAN OUTTA MONEY FAST.
JUST SAY, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S A SHORT DISTANCE FROM HOFFMAN COUNTY TO ZA COUNTY HUNT COUNTY COUNTY.
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THERE WASN'T ANYBODY FROM VAN Z COUNTY DRIVE OVER HERE TO GO GET MONEY.WE'D HAVE TO CHECK THEIR ADDRESS.
I MEAN, IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE VERY HARD TO POLICE THAT.
YEAH, IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE VERY HARD TO POLICE THAT THEY'D HAVE TO BRING THEIR, THEIR TELEPHONE BILL OR SOMETHING.
AND THAT WOULDN'T KEEP THEM FROM KILLING IN
WEIRD BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S RELATED.
FUNDING ISSUE AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
I, I THINK THAT, I THINK YOU'D RUN OUT MONEY WELL AND ALREADY UP.
I MEAN, KNOW ONE OF MORE POPULAR THINGS WE DO IS THE COUNTYWIDE AND I DIDN'T SEE THIS OTHER CLEAN UP.
I PROMISE YOU IT WOULD BE LAST SUMMER, RIGHT OFF ROAD PROPERTY.
WE, WE'VE GOT ONE OF OUR COUNTY TRAPS UP THERE.
WE CALL IT HUNDRED $10 IN IN THREE DAYS I MONEY IN THE BUDGET WE CAN ALWAYS TAKE THEM DOWN TO ANIMAL SHELTER.
YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT, THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED.
THERE'S TOO MANY NATIONAL NEWS.
YOU JUST YEAH, IT'S TOO LOGICAL.
I NOT STORIES OF THE COUNTY THAT WELL, I THINK THEY ALL WORKING ON SOME SORT OF AN ERADICATION OR GEORGIA, WELL ALWAYS.
THE, THE ONLY PROBLEM OR THERE'S A WAY THEY COULD DO THAT.
THE PROBLEM IS JUST
THAT SEEMS TO BE THE BIGGEST THING, FEEDERS THAT ONLY HOG CAN GET INTO OUT.
WHAT ABOUT THIS YOU'VE BEEN HEARING RECENTLY ABOUT THIS SWINE FLUG PD YEAH, I OR NOT INTO THE TEXAS HOS.
THE KIDS, UM, BRING HOGS DOWN FROM IOWA AND OHIO AND SO CAME ACROSS THE LINE BECAUSE THEY'VE DONE A GOOD JOB SO FAR AND CONTAIN IT IN THOSE ACTUAL FACILITIES, BUT THERE HASN'T GOTTEN OUT THE FACILITIES YET.
SO THERE'S BEEN ONE FFA UNIT THAT THEY PRETTY MUCH WIPED OUT THEIR SHOW HOG.
AND SO JUST BEFORE WE HEADED OFF TO SAN ANTONIO HOUSTON, THEY BASICALLY SAID, YOU NEED TO TO BUY.
A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE'RE DOING THE SHOW HOG THING, THAT IT'S A TERMINAL SHOW.
YOU GO INTO THE SHOW, IT'S LEAVE HOG THERE.
BUT THE, THE BREEDING HOGS WE HAD STARTED AT STATE FAIR BECAUSE, UH, SOME OF THE HOGS THAT A HUGE, UM, NATIONAL PORK INDUSTRY, UH, GIL SHOW REGISTRY GUILT SHOW.
AND SO ONE INSTANCE ALMOST MADE IT HERE.
THAT'S WHEN WE STARTED SAYING THE GIL SHOWS WE HAD TO START WATCHING OUT AND HERE'S A SIGNS AND MAKE SURE YOU BUY HOGS.
SO OUR FIELDS LIKE BRIAN TO CHECK SHOWS THE, THE READING HOGS.
THEY CHANGED THE PROCEDURES OF CHECKING IN AND CHECKING HOGS AND REALLY CLOSE DOWN ORDERS ON THOSE OUTSIDE IN HOW THEY, WHAT IS THAT? WHAT IS, HOW DOES IT AFFECT THEM? UM, IT ESPECIALLY UAL AND IT COMES THROUGH AND IT STARTS HITTING THEIR SYSTEM.
IT GOES THROUGH THE RESPIRATORY RESPIRATORY AND THEN GOES THROUGH THE NERVOUS SYSTEM.
IT ALMOST LOOKS A LITTLE BIT LIKE IF YOU GET SOME OF THESE HOGS THAT HAVE THAT GENETIC, UH, THOSE DOUBLE MUSCLE HOG THAT COME IN THAT ARE JUST SO TIGHTLY WOUND BECAUSE OF THEIR GENETIC BEING SO INBRED.
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BIG SHOW HOS HAVE IT, THEY'LL GET NERVOUS, STRESSED AND THEN JUST GO OUT.ESPECIALLY IF YOU FED IN THAT, UM, THAT SUPPLEMENT HEART CAN'T HANDLE.
SO THEY CRACK DOWN TRYING HAVE THOSE OF MAYBE WE CAN THAT TO
UNFORTUNATELY, UNFORTUNATELY THEY HAVE DONE A MORE SELECTION.
THEY MUST NOT BE REALLY FROM ARKANSAS BECAUSE THEY'VE DONE A BETTER JOB OF FAMILY SELECTION.
Y'ALL CAN BUY HELICOPTER FLY AROUND WHEN YOU NO HELICOPTER.
WHERE? UH, I BELIEVE ROCKWALL COUNTY, UH, GOT THREE OF THOSE, UH, VEHICLES, THE ARMORED VEHICLES FROM, UH, THAT CAME BACK FROM UH, SURPLUS AND LIKE THEY WERE MILLION DOLLAR VEHICLES AND ALL I HAD TO DO WAS GO, I THINK THEY WENT TO COLORADO SOMEWHERE.
I READ THAT WHERE THEY PICKED IT UP.
THEY USED IT FOR THEIR SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT FOR YOU KNOW, BARRICADE.
THEY GOT, I KNEW THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
WELL HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE EXTENSION SERVICE.
I'M NOT WORRIED HE'S GONNA GET US TO DROP THOSE SOME PLACES I CHECK PROJECTS.
I, WHEN I HAVE TO GO CHECK PROJECTS AND THERE'S A MOBILE HOME THAT HAS SIX PIT BULLS AROUND IT.
I'M GOING AND THAT'S MY DRESSER.
WELL JUST TURN LEFT AT THE MOBILE HOME THAT HAS THE PIT BULLS GOING AND IT WAS JUST LIKE SIX MILE.
SO YOU'RE HOPING WE CAN GET A HELICOPTER, I GUESS YOU, THESE THINGS SUPPOSED TO GO ANYWHERE.
I GUESS YOU CHASING WITH THESE UP.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE EXTENSION GUYS? THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH.
APPRECIATE EVERYTHING Y'ALL DO.
AND I'M GOING TO TELL SHARON THAT WE'RE NOT, WE DIDN'T MAKE THE TOP FIVE ON THE LIST OFFICES.
I GUESS WE WILL MAKE ONE ONE O'CLOCK AND GO HERE FROM THE IT DEPARTMENT AND THEN I'LL CALL UH, JUDGE AND UH, GOVERNMENT.
CAN WE GET COPIES OF THAT TO LOOK AT THIS AFTERNOON AS WELL? JUST PRINT BECAUSE I CAN'T PRINT.
THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT IS THE ONE WHERE ALL THE INSURANCE STUFF IS, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S KIND A CATCHALL, IT'S A BIG FUND BUT IT'S PRETTY, UH, YOU KNOW, IT INCLUDES A LOT OF JUST REGULAR CHARGES THAT WE HAVE, PRIMARILY INSURANCE AND WORKERS' COMP WE GIVE UP GOING.
UH, WELL IT IT'LL BE AT ONE O'CLOCK.
IT GEORGE, THAT GEORGE IS OUT OF TOWN.
YEAH, SO BARBARA AND LAURIE WE'LL PROBABLY BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND IT A LITTLE BETTER.
ALRIGHT, HEAR THAT RIGHT? YES.
SO THE AIR CARDS, THE VERIZON AIR CARDS.
SO THAT'S NOT JUST CELL PHONES.
CELL PHONES, THAT'S AIR CARS ALSO.
THAT'S FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND UM, THE CONSTABLES HAVE, UH, AIR CARS.
SOME OF THE JDS HAVE AIR CARS.
IF, UH, WE HAVE, WE HAVE LONGER AIR CARS FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE HAVING TO GO OUT, YOU KNOW, TO SCHOOL INSTEAD.
SO THEY HAVE IT, JUST TAKE IT AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE ACTUAL, UH, FOR 2013 WE HAD BUDGETED 55,000, BUT WE SPENT 70,000 AND WE BUDGETED 55 TO 14, SPENT 39 9 ALMOST.
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SO WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO AMEND THAT TO, TO COVER THE REST OF THE YEAR, I THINK TOO.WE HAD A FEW, YEAH, WE HAD, WELL THAT 24,000 ABOVE ON THE, UH, THAT NO, THAT WE DON'T, I MEAN THEY'VE SAID ABOUT 50, 55,000 WE WANT TO SEE IT BEFORE HE WOULD TAKE ANYTHING OUT OF THAT.
I THINK THAT IS THE ACTUAL BUDGET AMOUNT.
AND HE SAID HE'S NOT GONNA CHANGE ANYTHING UNTIL WE ACTUALLY MONTHS GO BY THAT WE CAN VERIFY, NOT JUST SAY, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT CHANGE.
SO IF WE GET ON DOWN THE BUDGETED THIS YEAR, UH, WE'RE AT 35,000.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE LANDLINES, LOOK AT THAT.
WE, WE BUDGET 124 AND WE THREE, WHEN WOULD EACH CUTS TAKE A FEE? YOU KNOW, THEY'VE STARTED DOING SOME SO WE SHOULD, SHOULD START SEEING SOME.
I'LL, I SAY GIVE IT A FEW MONTHS FOR US TO SEE THE BILLS COME IN TO MAKE SURE THERE'S DIFFERENCE BECAUSE WE'VE CAUGHT A FEW THINGS, UM, THAT IT DIDN'T CHANGE.
THAT AS I, AS THEY GET THE BILLS IN, GIVES ME A COPY AND I FORWARD THEM GET THROUGH SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T LOOK RIGHT THAT WE'RE NOT SAYING.
WELL, WHAT KAREN'S SAYING AT THE END OF WHAT, SEVEN MONTHS, THREE, WE'RE IN TROUBLE THIS YEAR ALREADY? YEAH, BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK HERE, WE SPENT 149 2013 AND I DON'T HAVE PRIOR HISTORY WITHOUT GOING INTO DEPARTMENT OF MINE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE IT WAS ORIGINALLY UNTIL WE MOVED THIS MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT TO COVER ALL THE COMPUTERS, SOFTWARE MAINTENANCE AND ALL THAT STUFF.
BUT WE PULLED IT OUT OF OUR BUDGET IN OTHER PLACES, DIDN'T WE? YEAH, WE TRANSFERRED.
WELL WE NEED TO, I MEAN, IF WE LEAVE IT LIKE IT IS, IT PROBABLY WON COME IN LESS BECAUSE OF THE SAVINGS.
THEY MUCH SO WHAT YOU, WHAT YOUR CHARGE OF IS AND YOU JUST LEAVE LIKE THIS, I MEAN BY, BY THE TIME Y'ALL HAVE TO ADOPT SOMETHING.
UM, I THINK WE'VE ONLY GOT STARTED ON THE FIRST MONTH OF STUFF COMING THROUGH.
HAVE A LITTLE BETTER PICTURE OF IT.
ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, FEW DAYS BECAUSE I KNOW ON SOME OF IT THEY, THEY TOOK OFF WHERE LIKE ON LONG DISTANCE CALL WE WERE GETTING CHARGED OUTRAGEOUS TO DROP THE WARRANT.
SO LIKE IF, IF UM, YOU'RE CALLING A LONG DISTANCE CALL, IT ADDED THE WARRANT TO IT FOR YOU.
SO IF YOU EVER TRY TO MAKE A LONG DISTANCE CALL FROM YOUR OFFICE AND IT SAYS YOU CAN'T PUT THE ONE IN THERE AND I FORGOT WHAT THE STATE WAS ON, JUST, JUST DROP A MINUTE.
WHO IS OUR LONG DISTANCE CARRIER? UH, WE'VE GOT A DI LONG DISTANCE.
ANY THAT WE'LL JUST KIND OF THREAD WATER AND SEE WHERE WE GO DOWN THE WAY.
GET, UH, SOFTWARE MAINTENANCE.
ANYTHING THAT IS NEW THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED FOR RESULTS OF CONSIDERATION.
IF IT DOESN'T HAVE A NEW BY, THAT'S WHAT IT WAS ON THE PREVIOUS BUDGET AND THE BACK TWO SHEETS HE ITEMIZED LIKE, UH, PUBLIC DEFENDER SOFTWARE, IT CONSIST OF PROX, WESTLAW AND PUBLIC DATA.
SO THAT'S WHERE THAT, THAT TOTAL IS FOR THE, FOR THE EACH THING.
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DO WE KNOW FOR SURE THAT THEY USED ALL THREE? HE VERIFIED, HE CALLED EACH PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT'S WHAT THEY USED EARLY ONE IN EARLY FOUND.SHE WAS, I DON'T THINK SHE WAS USING TWO OF THEM.
WELL I KNOW THAT PRO THEY USE THAT EVERY DAY WEST, I'M NOT SURE.
YEAH, I THINK BUT ON PUBLIC DEFENDER THEY PRETTY WELL USED.
SO YES, HE JUST DID A BREAKDOWN SO YOU COULD SEE WHAT THAT TOTAL AMOUNT CAME FROM.
AND THEN THERE'S NO CHANGE IN THE ELECTION SOFTWARE OR THE VOTER SOFTWARE OR, UM, THE TRUE AUTOMATION AND MAINTENANCE.
SHE'S TALKING ABOUT WAY TRUE AUTOMATION, RIGHT? THE, THE NEXT LINE YOU SEE IT'S GOT NEW BUY, BUT THERE'S NO AMOUNT.
BECAUSE THAT'S, UM, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT GOING TO NEW SOFTWARE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE AN AMOUNT ON THAT.
I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT JACK IS UH, WHY DO WE PUT THESE IN THE IT BUDGET? I GUESS THERE'S A REASON RATHER THAN THE INDIVIDUAL.
I SURE CAN YOU WANT ME TO ANSWER ALL THAT? OKAY.
UH, MR. YORK TALKED TO ME AND HE WANTED TO TAKE ALL THE SOFTWARE MAINTENANCE FOAM LINES AND AIR CARS THAT HE WAS ACTUALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR AND PUT IT INTO ONE BUDGET.
AND IT'S NOT HIS, HIS PERSONAL BUDGET, IT'S ONLY INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY.
AND THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF SETTING UP THE NEW DEPARTMENT.
WHAT HAD HAPPENED IN THE PAST IS, UM, LIKE THIS MAINTENANCE, THEY WOULD SEE MONEY IN THERE AND THEY THOUGHT, OKAY, WE CAN USE THAT.
WELL THEN WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THE MAINTENANCE STUFF DONE THAT IT WAS GONE, IT WAS USED FOR SOMETHING ELSE.
SO THEN WE HAD TO SCROUNGE IN OUR STUFF TO FIND MONEY HARD.
SO THIS WAY THEY, THEY DON'T CAN'T RUBY, IT WAS ALSO, IT WAS PROBLEM DO ANOTHER BUDGET.
THEY WOULD NEVER, THEY WOULDN'T, THEY WOULD FORGET ABOUT THAT.
IT WOULDN'T EVEN BE A LINE ITEM BEING, IT WOULD BE CRA RENT HOW TO, HOW TO PAY FOR PAY.
AND THEN THERE'S THE SAME THING.
AND THEN THE AUTOMATED TIMEKEEPING, THAT'S OUR, UM, TIMECLOCK, THE, UH, WE LOWERED TW.
BUT LAST YEAR WE BUDGET TWO SO IT'S LESS, WE WENT DOWN 14,000 AND THE ONLY REASON IT'S UH, GEORGE INCLUDED UH, AN ADDITIONAL $10,000 TO TRAIN THE NEW COUNTY TREASURER AND POSSIBLY NEW, UH, EMPLOYEES THAT HE HE'LL HAVE, UH, PLUS, UH, JACK AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT PURCHASE CARDS AND I TOLD HIM TO INCLUDE THAT INTO THE SOFTWARE FOR JACK.
IF HE TAKES THAT TO COURT, DECIDES TO GO AND THERE'S SOME CUSTOM REPORTINGS THAT Y'ALL ARE WANTING TO ADD TO THIS.
I JUST ASSUME THAT'S WHAT YEAH, SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO DO THAT.
UM, FIRE MARSHALS AT THIS PRESENT TIME, THEY HAVE NO SOFTWARE THAT IS FOR THEIR OFFICE TO USE.
UH, THIS WILL WORK FOR FIRE REPORTS, INVESTIGATION REPORTS AND THEIR INSPECTION REPORTS WHEN THEY GO OUT.
THIS ALSO, UM, LET'S SEE, THAT INCLUDES THE INSTALL AND GO LIVE.
THIS ON THE SIDE IS A BREAKDOWN, UH, WHAT THE ACTUAL SOFTWARE COST AND THEN THE, THE GO LIVE AND SOUTHERN SOFTWARE AT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT HAS AGREED
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TO GIVE US THE INTERFACE THAT GOES WITH IT FREE OF CHARGE.SO THAT'S NOT GONNA COST US, UM, SOUTHERN WON'T PUSH TO THIS SOFTWARE, BUT THE FIRE MARSHALS SOFTWARE WILL PUSH THE CENTER SO THAT IF THEY, IF A POLICE OFFICER GOES OUT, THEY CAN SEE THAT THERE'S WHAT ALL HAPPENED AT THAT LOCATION.
IF THEY HAD FIRE OR INSPECTION OR ANYTHING THAT MM-HMM.
HE JUST ESTIMATED THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER BECAUSE IT'S SO MUCH CHARGE PER EMPLOYEE.
I PUT THERE MAY IT SEEMED LIKE HER, HER ABOUT THERE SOMETHING THAT THEY DID NOT BILL FOR.
I KNOW IN UH, 2000 WE HAD 36 9, 93 75.
I THINK THAT WAS FOR THE ACTUAL MACHINES AND STUFF AND I'M NOT SURE WE HAVEN'T PAID THEM ANYTHING IN 14.
IS THAT BECAUSE THE BILL'S NOT DUE YET? OR UH, WHEN IS IT? I HAVE NO IDEA THAT WE HAVEN'T MARKED IT.
'CAUSE WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED IT.
WELL I'M SURE THE SOFTWARE'S PAID FOR.
WE JUST HAD TO PAY SO MUCH PER PERSON PER MACHINE OR I CAN ROUTE THAT WAS DOWN ON THE BILLING FOR THAT PER, PER ADVISED VERBAL ADVISED PER PERSON.
AND THEN, UM, ACCESS CHARGE, THEN THE SUPERVISORS THERE WAS A DIFFERENT CHARGE FROM THE SUPERVISOR ACCESS.
SO WE MAY GET GO 27 THIS YEAR.
AND Y'ALL CHECK ON THAT A QUESTION.
UH, THAT MOTION, IT IS JUST A TRANSFER THAT WAS AT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND
WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY TRANSFER OVER IN OUR FUND YET.
THAT WAS JUST A TRANSFER OF MONEY GOING FROM A LINE ITEM IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT TO A LINE ITEM IN OUR DEPARTMENT BACK ON THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
AND I THINK IT WASN'T A, JUST A SEPARATE NUMBER.
I BELIEVE IT WAS IN A UM, IT WAS A GROUP OF OTHER THINGS.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE JUST A LINE ITEM THAT SAID THAT MOTION CI THAT'S GONNA BE TRANSFERRED.
YEAH, IT COULD BE, UM, IN THAT HANDOUT OF THOSE DIFFERENT MAINTENANCES THAT THEY FACE.
GIS CRIME ANALYSIS GONNA MERGE WITH OWN, MERGE WITH FORENSIC.
IF IT MOVED ONE PLACE, PLACES SHOULD BE.
THE BEAR ANALYTICS THERE IS, THAT'S A QUESTION ONE.
THAT'S ONLY IF OUR GIS ISSUES GET DECIDED IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING WITH GIS AND WE CAN'T HAVE THE BEAR ANALYTICS.
AND WHAT THAT IS IS FOR, UM, POLICE, IF YOU'VE EVER GONE TO A, UM, ANOTHER COUNTY AND THEY HAVE MAPS THAT YOU CAN PULL UP, LIKE THIS IS MY NEIGHBORHOOD, HOW MANY BURGLARIES I'VE HAD IN HERE.
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I HAVE SEX OFFENDERS.WHERE, WHERE THEY PLACED THAT.
THIS IS THE SOFTWARE THAT WILL GIVE A COUNTY WIDE MAP.
UH, AND I BELIEVE PUBLIC HAS ACCESS OR THEY CAN LOOK AT THEIR PLACEMENT WHERE THE THING GOT MOVING.
THAT ALSO HAS REPORTING ON POLICE AGENCY.
SO IF THERE'S AN AREA THAT'S HIRING CRIME, THEY KNOW TO PUT MORE PEOPLE TO MONITOR THAT AREA AND IT JUST IS A SOFTWARE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
BUT IF I KNOW THE GIS STUFF IS UNDECIDED, SO DO THEN THAT $68,000 SHERIFF'S, UH, I'M NOT SURE.
I WASN'T HERE IN THE SHERIFF'S
THAT 68,009 50 ON THE SHERIFF'S PART.
UH, THEY SAID PART OF THAT WAS TAKEN FROM THE GIS AND THE OTHER PART WAS THE FORENSIC.
SO THEY NEEDED ABOUT THE EXPENSES THOUGH.
MAKE SURE NO, NO, THIS IS SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT GI OKAY.
AND THEN OTHER SOFTWARE YOU SEE THAT'S NEW.
THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST TIME TO HAVE TO PAY THE ANNUAL MAINTENANCE ON THAT.
THAT'S THE THING WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE HAD THAT
SO NOW IT GOES, WE JUST PAY FOR THE SOFTWARE.
HOW DOES OR THE SOFTWARE MAINTENANCE DOES THAT, WHAT WE'RE TO PAY TYLER TECHNOLOGIES AS FAR AS, UH, THERE'S NO CHANGE THERE.
I MEAN THERE'S NO CHANGE IN YEAH, BUT I MEAN ARE WE COMPARING APPLE TO APPLE? LET'S SEE WHAT I'M GETTING.
SOUTHERN SOFTWARE, UM, SOUTHERN, THERE'S A BREAKDOWN ON, UH, SOUTHERN SOFTWARE WHAT EACH ITEM OR WHICH PROGRAM THAT THEY HAVE OF WHAT EACH ONE IS CHARGED.
THEY HAVE A LOT MORE MODULES THAN, UH, TYLER DOES BECAUSE EACH INDIVIDUAL THING IS SEPARATED.
LIKE THE THE PRIME STUFF THAT'S STUCK IN THE CARS AT ONE SOFTWARE WHERE THE JAIL HAS ANOTHER SOFTWARE AND WHERE THE CA THAT'S THE AUTOMATIC DISPATCH.
THE NILE SCANNING IS, IS THE STUFF THAT THEY DO, THE FINGERPRINT SCANNING THAT GOES INTO THE, SO ALL THAT STUFF IS BROKE DOWN.
SO WHERE THAT IS A NEW ITEM, WE'RE ACTUALLY LOSING THE EXPENSE.
WE'VE BEEN DOWN PURCHASE EVERY SOUTHERN SOFTWARE WORKING PRETTY GOOD.
I KNOW WAS GOING TO IT CI THINK DID TOO.
ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT SOFTWARE MAINTENANCE? ALRIGHT, HARDWARE MAINTENANCE.
UM, OUR MIND HEALTH MODEL SYSTEM, I BELIEVE, WAS THIS AN ITEM THAT WAS LOCATED SOMEWHERE ELSE? THAT, THAT'S, IS IT SCOTT NOT LISTED AND WHEN I SPOKE TO HIM, HE SAID IT'S BEING MOVED.
I THINK THAT MONEY AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT COMES OUT.
UM, BECAUSE WHEN I GIVE THE BILL, I GIVE IT TO AND LET HER KNOW THAT IT COMES OUT.
NO, BECAUSE I DUNNO WHAT THAT NUMBER IS.
I JUST GIVE IT TO HER AND SHE GIVES IT TO ME.
OKAY, SO SOMEBODY CAN TRACK THAT DOWN.
UM, WE PAY IT, BUT I I KNOW IT'S GROUPED UNDER ANOTHER LINE.
JUST SO WE KNOW WHERE IT'S COMING FROM.
YEAH, REPAIRS IS JUST, THAT'S EVERYTHING.
THAT'S, THERE'S NO CHANGE IN THAT YEAR.
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ON WHICH ONE SIR? TRUCTURE REPAIRS.WE SPENT, UM, WELL WE HAD 65,000, UH, BUDGETED.
BUT HERE PRIOR TO THAT HE SPENT 67,000.
AND I MEAN, YOU KNOW WHOSE HARDWARE, WELL, FROM WHAT GEORGE HAD EXPLAINED TO ME, JUDGE WAS THAT UH, WINDOWS WASN'T GONNA, UM, SUPPORT XD ANYMORE AND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO REPLACE THE COMPUTERS BECAUSE OF THAT.
YEAH, THAT'S THE ONLY, YEAH, THERE'S STUFF WE NEED.
WE JUST HAVEN'T, HAVEN'T BEEN HITTING IT TOO MUCH TILL WE KIND OF SEE HOW WE HATE TO HIT IT HARD AT THE FIRST OF THE YEAR AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING COMING END OF THE YEAR BECAUSE WE KNOW THIS X STUFF IS INFRASTRUCTURE.
THE, THE LINE ITEMS ARE HAVE CHANGED.
ONE IS OUR ANTIVIRUS AND THEN THE OTHER IS, UH, WE HAVE BARE THROUGH THE WEB FILTERS THAT FILTERS OUR SPAM AND VIRUS EMAIL AND ALSO A WEB FILTER OF THAT KEEPS PEOPLE FROM GETTING LIKE SO MANY BUZZ ON OUR COMPUTER.
AND WE HAVE ONE, WE HAVE FOUR AND IT'S THE RENEWAL, RIGHT? FOR EACH, EACH ONE WE HAVE DIFFERENT DEVICES.
ONE IS STRICTLY JUST EMAIL AND THEN WE HAVE THE, THE WEB FILTERS THAT BLOCKS STUFF, YOU KNOW, FROM GETTING ON YOUR COMPUTER.
SO THAT'S DOWN INTO FOUR DIFFERENT DEVICES AND IT'S THE ANNUAL, UH, THEY CALL ENERGIZER UPDATES, WHICH IS THE VIRUS UPDATES AND THEN A REPLACEMENT IF ACTUALLY BREAKS DOWN.
THEY UM, THE NEXT TWO ITEMS, THE BARRACUDA BACKUP AND DISASTER RECOVERY, THOSE ARE BOTH, BOTH NEW.
UM, THEY ARE ADVISED THAT TAKE ALL OUR DATA LOOK FROM OUR SOFTWARE, LIKE ALL THE FOR SOFTWARE IS, YOU CAN EXPLAIN THAT BETTER THAN ME.
SO THEN WE'RE BACKING UP THE DATA LOCALLY AND OFFSITE SO THAT WE CAN GET IT BACK UP AND RUNNING A, SO IF SOMETHING WAS TO HAPPEN HERE TO THE SERVERS OVER THERE, THEN WE HAVE IT IN ANOTHER LOCATION.
UM, IF YOU'LL LOOK DOWN A LITTLE FURTHER, YOU'LL SEE THE RACK SPACE IS, UH, DISASTER AND RECOVERY.
THAT'S WHERE WE'RE STORING A LOT OF STUFF RIGHT NOW.
THIS WOULD, WOULD GO AWAY IF WE DO ONE OF THESE ABOVE, TAKE AWAY THE 40 SUBSTITUTE WITH THE, WITH THE RACK SPACE.
ALL IT IS IS A FOLDER SET IN THERE WHERE THIS WOULD, THIS THE BARRACUDA ACTUALLY TAKES IT AND PROCESSES IT AND SENDS IT HERE AND THEN SENDS IT UP WITH, WE ARE LOOKING AT ON ONE OF THESE.
UM, AND WE'VE GOT A CALL INTO THEM, UH, BECAUSE WE'RE WANTING TO GET ONE FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND THE DATA FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT TO THE BARRACUDA IS ENCRYPTED.
UM, THE QUESTION IS, IS ONCE IT GETS TO THE CLOUD AND SETS AREA FOLDER, IT HAS TO BE ENCRYPTED.
SO WE'VE GOT A CALL INTO THEIR SECURITY PEOPLE TO FIND OUT IF WHILE IT'S SITTING THERE IT'S ENCRYPTED.
IF IT'S NOT ENCRYPTED WHILE IT'S SITTING THERE, THEN WE WON'T BE ABLE TO DO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
UM, THEN THE NEXT ITEMS AREN'T NEW, THEY'RE JUST ROLLED INTO THE ACTUAL INFRASTRUCTURE.
WE HAVE UM, SOME SWITCHES THAT AREN'T IN THE BLOCK THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED.
AND THAT'S JUST THE COST OF THOSE.
YOU JUST HAD TO BRING IT UP DIDN'T YOU? WHICH
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THEY'RE ON THE VERGE TALKING, TALKING ONCE.THEY'RE ON THE VERGE OF BREAKING DOWN.
HEY TO THAT STILL RELATES TO, THAT'S SEMI OKAY.
UM, AND I KNOW ALL OF Y'ALL HAVE XP MACHINES, THE COMMISSIONER DO AND YOU'VE PROBABLY BEEN GETTING A LITTLE WARNING THAT SAYS XP IS NO LONGER SERVICED AND SO WE'RE NEEDING TO REPLACE XP COMPUTERS.
UH, THERE IS SOME OF THE SOFTWARE THAT IS FIXING TO NOT BE WORKING ANYMORE, LIKE AT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
UM, THEIR
SO THAT, THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH, WE DO HAVE A VIEW THAT WE ARE GOING TO, THAT ARE THE SEVEN EIGHTIES I BELIEVE WE CAN UPDATE THEM, BUT WE HAVE SOME, ALL OF THESE THAT ARE LISTED ARE AT LEAST FIVE YEARS OLD.
THE MINIMUM IS FIVE, THE SEVEN EIGHTIES WERE TWO YEARS, BUT THE REST OF THEM WERE AT LEAST FIVE YEARS OLD.
WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT IS WE DON'T GET ANY PATCHES OR VIRUSES UPDATES.
SO IT MAKES YOUR COMPUTER LIABLE FOR ANY HACK TO TRY TO GET INTO IT.
THE COMPUTER DIDN'T, I DIDN'T, I MEAN WE DO HAVE A LIST, WE HAVE A SPREADSHEET ON.
JUST DON'T GO REPLACE 53 OF 'EM RIGHT NOW.
IS THAT JUST THE ONES THAT WE HAVE TO REPLACE OR IS THAT YES, 53 DIDN'T GO.
YEAH, BECAUSE UH, LAST YEAR WE BUDGETED FOR STARTING TO REPLACE THE OLDER ONES AND WE REPLACED PROBABLY 40 OR 50 LAST YEAR THAT WERE JUST REALLY, REALLY, REALLY OLD.
BUT THEIR PARTS GETTING PARTS FARM JUST YOU ALMOST EVERY EMPLOYEE JUST ABOUT.
YEAH, I BET THERE'S THREE, THREE OR 400.
I'M GONNA SAY I KNOW THERE'S AT LEAST THREE OR THREE 50.
YEAH, THE ONLY ONES YOU CAN CONFIGURE THAT ARE THE ROAD BRIDGE GUYS AND THEN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND THE ONES THAT ARE, ARE THE OLDEST OR THAT HAVE PROBLEMS THAT ARE GOING OUT INSTEAD OF TRYING TO IT.
WE'VE BEEN KIND OF KEEPING A FEW AND REPLACING, YOU KNOW, ONE HERE AND THERE IF THEY GO OUT.
BUT PARTS JUST GET REALLY HARD TO GET IN.
YOU CAN FOR TRYING TO GET FOR THAT ONE OVER THERE
BUT WE HAVE A LIST TO, UH, EACH LOCATION THAT SHERIFF'S PROBABLY ALMOST GOT ALL OF THOSE REPLACED.
I THINK WE'RE ONLY, UH, ONLY HAVE 10 OUT THERE THAT ARE BEING REPLACED BESIDES THE LAPTOP.
UM, THE NEXT ONE IS A BIG STORAGE DEVICE THAT WE HAVE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND IT HAS A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING STORED ON THAT.
THE UM, INCAR VIDEOS, THE POLICE CARS, THERE ARE CAMERAS THAT RUN ALL THE TIME.
THEY COME INTO THE PARKING LOT AND STOP.
WE HAVE A WIRELESS UNIT IN, IN THE PARKING LOT THAT GRABS THEIR VIDEO OFF OF THEIR CARS AND SENDS IT TO THIS.
AND WE HAD ONE OF THEM GO DOWN ON THIS THIS YEAR AND IT TOOK US, UH, BY THE TIME WE HAD TO SEND IT OFF AND GET IT BACK, IT WAS SEVERAL WEEKS AND IT'S ONE THAT HAD OUR VIDEO MAGISTRATE ON IT.
SO IT PUT UP KIN BEING ABLE TO DO THAT SO WE COULD GET ALL THE BACK.
UM, THE G-I-S-B-I CONSULTING, THAT IS NOT AMOUNT BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW YET ON HOW GIS IS GONNA COME OUT.
UM, AND THAT DETERMINES ON WHAT WE DO WITH THE, THE PUBLIC WORKS AND THE WHOLE THING.
AND THEN THERE'S THE HARDWARE FOR THE ANNEX SERVER ROOM AND I BELIEVE THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO COURT ABOUT TAKING IT OUT.
MEASURES RECORDS FUND, SO WE DUNNO AMOUNT ON.
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AND THEN WE WERE, UH, WORKING ON GETTING SOME WINDOWS EIGHT TABLETS AND STUFF TO REPLACE UH, SOME LAPTOPS THAT WE KIND OF LOAN OUT WHEN WE, WHEN SOMEBODY GO SOMEWHERE OR LIKE WHEN YOU WERE DOING PRESENTATIONS AND STUFF.THEY'RE PRETTY OLD AND IT GIVES PEOPLE LINK THEM OUT WHEN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SCHOOL.
BECAUSE I KNOW LIKE ON THE JP SCHOOLS NOW, THEY DON'T GIVE YOU A BOOK.
THEY WANT YOU TO BRING A TABLET OR A LAPTOP WITH YOU BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GONNA PRINT YOU BOOKS FOR SCHOOL.
AND THEN THAT BRAX PLACE, UH, DISASTER RECOVERY, YOU KNOW, IS CONTINGENT ON THE BARRACUDA DISASTER GO AWAY IF WE DO ONE OF THE, AND ONE OF THESE MAY GO AWAY IF IT'S NOT ENCRYPTED.
SO THAT'S, WE'RE TRYING TO, WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF DOING OUR TWO LEFT AUDIT, THAT SHERIFF DEPARTMENT.
AND THAT WAS ONE THING THAT WE'RE CHECKING ON FOR THEM.
SO THAT'S WHY THAT WAS BROUGHT UP IS THEY WERE ASKING US, OKAY, IF YOU DO THIS IS COMPLIANT, COME BACK WITH THE YES.
UM, THEN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, UH, OFFICE PATROL LAPTOPS, UH, THERE'S 48 OF THOSE AND IT'S THE SAME THING AS THE XP DESKTOPS THAT ARE ABOUT TO DIE BECAUSE THESE ALL HAVE XP ON IT.
AND THOSE ARE A DEFINITE MUST BECAUSE THE STATE SAYS YOU CAN'T RUN LICENSE PLATES, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO RUN CRIMINAL HISTORY OR ANYTHING AFTER A CERTAIN DAY BECAUSE THE ONES IN THE CAR TAKE A PRETTY BIG, THERE IS SOME AND THEY'LL BE GOOD FOR, YOU KNOW, LIKE IF YOU WANT HAVE IN REPORT TO YOUR SPREADSHEETS ON OR EMAIL AND STUFF LIKE THAT, IT'S NOT SO BAD.
UM, SOME OF 'EM ARE STILL PRETTY GOOD.
SOME OF 'EM ARE ON THE LAST LEG BECAUSE THEY TAKE A DEEP IN THE CAR AND THAT'S WHY A LOT OF THOSE, YOU SEE LAPTOPS AND TABLETS, UM, WE'VE BEEN TRYING THE LENOVO TABLETS IN THE CARS.
THEY, THE UM, GUYS SEEM TO REALLY LIKE THOSE BECAUSE IF THEY GO OUT ON A CALL AND HAS A CAMERA, THEY HAVE THEIR CERTAIN SOFTWARE OVER THERE, THEY TAKE THEIR TABLET OUT, THEY CAN TAKE A PICTURE AND ADD IT TO THEIR SOFTWARE AUTOMATICALLY.
BUT THE TABLETS AND THE LAPTOPS ARE, THE PRICES ARE JUST ABOUT THE SAME.
NOW THE, THE LAPTOPS ARE A LOT BETTER IF YOU'RE SITTING AND YOU'RE HAVING TO WORK ON A DAILY BASIS AND YOU'RE GONNA DO A LOT WORK.
BUT FOR THE CARS WHERE THEY JUST HAVE THEIR CAST SYSTEM UP, LIKE MAINLY JUST HAVE THE PUNCH TO TAKE A CALL AND STUFF LIKE THAT, AND THEN THE OFFICE 10, THIS WILL GO ON THE DESKTOPS AND THE LAPTOPS RIGHT NOW, UM, IF WE GET IT PRE-INSTALLED ON THE DESKTOPS, IT'S THE NEWEST VERSION.
AND ODYSSEY HAS A PROBLEM WITH THE FORMS AND THE NEWEST VERSION.
SO WE GET THE OFFICE SOFTWARE, WHICH IS YOUR OFFICE AND YOUR EXCEL AND YOUR EMAIL SEPARATELY BECAUSE WE CAN GO DOWN TO THE 2010 VERSION AS OF THE 2013 VERSION.
WELL THAT'S WHY THAT IS SEPARATED OUT.
ANY QUESTIONS? WELL, I UNDERSTAND ABOUT HALF WHAT SHE SAID.
IT'S A MUCH BETTER DEAL BECAUSE WE GET DONE WELL, I MEAN I, YOU IT'S, IT'S, I MEAN IT'S, THAT'S WHERE EVERYTHING IS GOING AND WHERE WE CONTINUE TO, AND I THINK THERE, AND THERE'S BEEN QUESTIONS ON THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MAPPING AND GIS AND ON, ON THE MAPPING, THAT IS ME GOING OUT WRITING THE STREET NUMBER DOWN.
AND THIS IS HOUSE, TIMBER, HOUSE, HOUSE NUMBER WHERE THE GIS IS GEOGRAPHIC INFORMATION SYSTEM IS WHERE YOU GET YOUR, YOUR MULTI-LAYERS.
THEY CAN PUT LAYERS ON THAT WHERE YOU GET ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT INFORMATION ON THAT.
SO THAT'S WHERE THE DIFFERENCE IS ON THOSE TWO.
WHY DO WE HAVE MASKS ON COMPUTER ANYMORE ON PAGE, WE DON'T
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HAVE A GIS PROCEDURE.THEY JUST TAKEN OFF ONE DAY THEY DISAPPEARED.
THEY WEREN'T, THEY WEREN'T, THEY WEREN'T CURRENT.
SO LIKE FOR THE VOTERS, THE VOTER MAP, YOU KNOW, WE USED TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT THERE THAT IF YOU'RE, THIS IS YOUR ADDRESS WHERE I VOTE, WELL THAT'S PART OF THE GIS THAT'S MAPPING WON'T COUNT THAT.
SO THAT'S PART OF THE THING THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE WORKED OUT WITH THE, WHERE WE DO REPUBLIC WORKS AND ALL THAT.
SO MISTY'S NOT GIS, SHE NOT REALLY, IT'S MORE MAPPING THAN, THAN GISI THINK THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A, THERE'S A LINE IN THERE BETWEEN MAPPING AND THE GIS OR GIS I'VE NEVER FULLY UNDERSTOOD.
YEAH, I HAD TO, I HAD TO ASK HIM ONE EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS.
BUT WE NEED TO, UH, IF Y'ALL LOOKED, IF YOU LOOKED AT THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT WEBSITE AND YOU KNOW WHERE YOU PUT AN ADDRESS IN YEAH.
IT NOW COMES UP WITH THE MAP AND IT HAS THE, UH, MEETS AND BOUNDS ON IT.
THAT'S, THAT'S GIS THAT'S NOT MAPPING.
THEY'VE GONE AWAY WITH HAVING A GIS PERSON.
IS THAT WHAT CO WAS TALKING ABOUT MAYBE BEING ABLE TO DO? DID THEY ASSIST US IN THAT OR IS THAT THE 9 1 1? THEY COME IN, I KNOW WORK WITH THEM ON 9 1 1, BUT I'M SURE THEY DO SO TYPE OF GEO.
I I'VE JUST NEVER REALLY UNDERSTOOD ALL THE DYNAMICS OF THAT HAVE A BETTER, I JUST GIVE YOU AN ADDRESS.
EVER THINK ABOUT THAT PROPERTY.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE VERSION OF EVERYTH WHERE A MAP WILL JUST BE A FLAT PICTURE.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN WHERE GIS WILL HAVE AREAS AND, AND YOU COULD HAVE A FRONT, FRONT DOOR, BACK DOOR TOUCH SITUATION, LAW ENFORCEMENT.
AND WE DID AND WE USED TO HAVE THAT WHERE MAGGIE JUST SAYS, HERE'S WHERE IT'S AT.
ANY ANY QUESTIONS? WE'LL WE'LL GO AHEAD AND PLUG THESE NUMBERS IN EXCEPT FOR AREA WHERE WE ISSUES.
ANYBODY GOT ANY OTHER, Y'ALL HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU NEED? AND I THINK, UM, GEORGE SAID ON OUR ACTUAL BUDGET BUDGET, RIGHT, THAT'S US AND OUR, THE ONLY, THE ONLY REQUEST HE'S HAD IS TO BRING N TO OUR BASE SALARY AND HE SAYS THAT WAS HIS BAD.
HE SAID RAY HAS EVER
BUT WE DID IT SO WE COULD FIND SOMEBODY THAT SEE HOW MUCH KNOWLEDGE THEY HAD AND GET SOMEBODY IN THERE AND HE PULL HIS WEIGHT.
YEAH, WE'RE RIGHT NOW KIND TO SEE WHERE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, LITTLE FURTHER ALONG THE BUDGET.
I KNOW NICK, YOU SEEM TO FIT IN PRETTY WELL.
LIKE YOU'RE BUSY ALL THE TIME.
AND HE ACTUALLY GOES OUT TO THE HOT LOCATIONS IF I'M TIED UP, SO, AND BURN UP SOMETHING AND SOMETHING HAPPENS IN GO TAKE.
OKAY GUYS, YOU GOT ANYTHING? WE'RE OUT SMART.
OKAY, WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
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SHE'S SUPPOSED TO BE THE GIS PERSON BUT WITHOUT COBB THEY HADN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET ANYTHING DONE.SO PRICE, SHE AND MR BEEN DOING THE SAME THING.
WHICH DOING THE WHAT? I'VE SEEN ALL THAT HE LEFT TOOK PLACE SOME DEGREE, BUT PULLED OUT SOMEWHERE IN THERE WHERE IS SOMEWHERE THERE'S A LIGHT THERE SOMEWHERE.
TOM STEP DOWN HALL TOM STEPPED DOWN THE HALL BACK HERE.
DEFINITELY PRETTY WELL STICK TO WHAT YOU HAVE.
I DO ONLY, THE ONLY CHANGES I HAVE I SEPARATE SHEET ON MY BUDGET FOR YEAH.
PAGE LAST YEAR WE USED OUR MEMORIALS AND DONATION FUND TO FUND OUR BOOKS FOR THIS YEAR AND ALL OF THAT.
SO THAT'S WHAT THAT 25,000 IS PUTTING BACK WHAT IT'LL BE UNDER, UNDER FIVE.
KAREN, YOU HAVE IT FOR THE BOOK SIR? IT'S UH, 32 2 6 50.
YEAH, THE 43 ACCOUNT IS WHAT WE WERE USING THIS YEAR FOR THE BOOKS.
AND THAT'S THE ONE WHERE HE HAD BUILT UP QUITE A BIT THAT HAD BUILT UP OVER THE YEARS.
SO LAST YEAR YOU ASKED ME TO USE THAT RIGHT.
AND THEN HE REDUCED OUR BOOK BUDGET OUT OUR REGULAR BUDGET.
AND SO THAT'S THE REASON THAT IT, IT'S ACTUALLY A KIND OF A ONE YEAR DEAL THAT WE ASKED YOU DO.
SO THAT WOULD BE A $25,000 TO COME BACK INTO THE, INTO OUR REGULAR BUDGET.
THEN THE OTHER INCREASE IS THE DUES AND EDUCATION, RIGHT? THE DUES ARE JUST FOR, UM, THE TEXAS SOCIETY.
THERE'S 40 A YEAR AND THAT IS JUST TO HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR WEBSITE AND ALSO FOR THEIR PRINT PUBLICATION.
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AND THEN 1 25 FOR THE 50 STATE LIBRARY ASSOCIATION JUST TO BELONG TO THAT TOO.UM, UH, KEEP UP WITH EVERYTHING.
THAT'S THE CHANGES AND IT GIVES YOU ACCESS TO, UM, TRAINING, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THEN ON, UM, I HAVE UH, THIS LINE ITEM FOR TRAINING THAT IS FOR THE ANNUAL CONFERENCE THAT THE TEXAS STATE LIBRARY HAS YEAR.
UM, IT ROTATES BETWEEN ABOUT FIVE.
USUALLY I OVER PROJECT FOR, SO THEY PAY FOR ME GO, ALWAYS FOR ME TO GO.
BUT IT'S IN AUSTIN THIS YEAR AND I WOULD LIKE TRAINING ON CHANGES.
3 38 IS WHERE YOU DID THE FIRST OF THE MATERIALS FOR THIS YEAR.
WE DID THAT OUTTA UM, YES, WE DID IT OUTTA 43.
43, 3 38 MEMORIALS AND DONATIONS.
IT'S BEEN JUST ABOUT ALL YOUR MONEY.
WE'LL AND SOME OF THE, THE SPECIAL PROJECTS WE DID, UM, WE DID A FIRE BOX FOR THAT.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? HOW MANY COMPUTERS DO YOU HAVE DOWN THERE? WE HAVE SIX PUBLIC COMPUTERS, UM, THAT THEY, THE PUBLIC USES FOR INTERNET ACCESS AND HAVE ONE THAT JUST FOR OUR GENEALOGY RESEARCH.
SO THERE'S A PUBLIC INTERNET THAT THEY JUST USE TO SERVE THE CATALOG.
SO AS FAR AS PUBLIC COMPUTER, WE, AND NOW WE'RE STILL KIND OF HAVING SOME OTHER PROBLEMS WITH THE PATRIOTS COMING IN, GOING TO DIFFERENT SITES BECAUSE IT'S P IS MAKING SOME CHANGES AND I'M NOT BEING SUPPORTIVE.
I WROTE A GRANT AND HOPEFULLY I'LL GET BACK IN AUGUST TO THOSE AND ACTUALLY ADD, UM, 10, WE'LL HAVE 10 PUBLIC COMPUTERS AND REPLACING, WE ACTUALLY HAVE 10 LAPTOPS TOO THAT WE USED TO TEACH COMPUTER CLASSES.
SO WRITTEN THE GRANT TO REPLACE THOSE, TO BRING ALL THOSE THINGS BACK UP TO CAR AND TO PURCHASE THINGS LIKE A SCANNER.
SCANNER, JUST A COPIER THAT'S MORE THAT CAN EMAIL AND SCAN TO THE, AND LIKE THAT THE, THAT WE TRY TO SEE IN LINE SOMETIMES.
SO YEAH, THAT'S INCLUDED IN THERE.
OKAY GUYS, YOU HAVE ANYTHING? THANK YOU.
LIBRARY, GET A LOT OF GOOD CONFIDENTIAL.
OH MY GOODNESS, RIGHT NOW THEY STAY BUSY.
ESPECIALLY DURING SUMMERTIME, DURING THE SUMMER THE KIDS COME IN TOO OR ARE THOSE BUILDER AND ALL THAT? UH, WE USED THE BARRACUDA, RIGHT, JUST LIKE LAURIE WAS TALKING ABOUT.
SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE A BOX THERE AND UM, SO USUALLY WHEN GEORGIA GIVING THE ACCESS TO GO IN TO WALK AND UM, BLOCK SITES AS WELL.
BUT IT DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB.
I MEAN EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE SOMETHING WILL GET THROUGH THERE, BUT BARRACUDA'S REALLY GOOD ABOUT FILTERING AND IT'S PRETTY EASY TO USE.
SO DO YOU JUST SERVICE OR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT? NO, WE ACTUALLY GO THROUGH THE
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COUNTY.YEAH, WHEN THEY BUILT THE MEMORIAL AND SET THAT LINE RIGHT.
THEY, UM, CAME OVER, SO, OKAY.
I KNOW AT ONE TIME WHILE I WAS HERE AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FURNISH.
I THINK WHEN THEY FIRST GOT INTERNET ACCESS OVER THERE THAT THEY WERE GOING THROUGH.
BENNY, YOU WANT TALK TO US? WELL, I'VE NEVER HAD THE COUNTY GIVE US A LINE ITEM MONEY AND 15 YEARS.
KAREN SAID THIS IS YOUR YEAR FROM
SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY BUDGET DO WE? NO SIR.
I'M GONNA EXPLAIN TO YOU HIS BUDGET COMES FROM THE STATE, RIGHT? Y'ALL HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
I JUST INCLUDE IN THE BUDGET DOCUMENT SO PEOPLE KNOW WHAT WE'RE SPEND THE MONEY ON.
SO ON HIS WAY OUT, HE'S GONNA BE ASKING US FOR MONEY.
IS THAT RIGHT? I'M GONNA DO WHAT? ON YOUR WAY OUT, YOU'RE GOING BE ASKING US FOR MONEY.
SO GIVE US A LITTLE MORE DETAIL.
YEAH, IF YOU WANT TO LOOK, THIS IS, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT IN ANY NEED OF MONEY JUDGE.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SELF SUPPORTIVE.
UH, EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, EVERY COUPLE YEARS OR SO, WE MIGHT ASK YOU FOR A CHAIR ON A GENERAL BUDGET OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT, UH, IT'S NOT AN ONGOING, IF YOU LOOK AT, HE HAS INTERESTING, UM, STATE COMPTROLLER, UH, PORTION, UH, THE PROBATION FEES THAT ARE PAID THROUGH THIS, THE COURTS AND, UH, PAYMENTS BY THE PROGRAM RECIPIENTS.
AND UH, HE USUALLY HAS A FUND BALANCE THAT HE CARRIES FORWARD AND HIS BUDGET IS SET EVERY TWO YEARS.
SO IT WAS SET LAST YEAR FOR 2013, 14 AND 1415.
SO THERE WON'T BE, YEAH, THERE WON'T BE ANOTHER BUDGET COME FORTH UNTIL NEXT YEAR.
WHAT ABOUT HIS EMPLOYEES? ARE THEY BUDGET THE SAME WAY? YEAH.
HOW DO WE GIVE THEM A RAISE THEN? THE COUNTY DOESN'T, THE COUNTY DOESN'T GIVE THEM A RAISE.
THESE ARE, THESE ARE ALL STATE FUNDS.
THESE ARE ALL STATE FUNDS WE INCLUDE IN OUR ONLY THING BUILDING.
I SAID ALL WE DO IS FURNISH THEM A BUILDING, RIGHT.
UH, PROBATION DEPARTMENT IN THE STATE OF TEXAS AND PROVIDE OKAY.
BUILDINGS, TELEPHONES, AND YES.
HE AND THE DISTRICT JUDGES DECIDE THAT AND THEN THEY SUBMIT THE BUDGET TO AUSTIN TO BE APPROVED.
SO WHERE DOES ALL THE PROBATION FEES GO TO THE STATE CONTROLLER? UH, ABOUT 60% OF IT FUNDS ARE SERVICES AND PAYROLL AND INFRINGEMENT BENEFITS, EMPLOYEE SHEETS IN, BECAUSE WE DO PAY THAT.
IT HAS, IT HAS TO BE FILED LIKE THE CHILDREN'S SHELTER.
YEAH, IT'S FILED MEASURES COURT EVERY TWO YEARS.
WHEN WE SUBMIT OUR 16 TO 17 BUDGET, IT'S INCLUDED FOR A BIENNIUM.
SO HOW ARE THEY DOING THIS YEAR? UH, ALRIGHT, THEY HAD 1.3 MILLION.
UH, SO FOR SEVEN 20,000, UH, THE EXPENDITURES WILL BE TOOK OVER THERE.
OF COURSE THEIR BUDGET IS BALANCED.
I'M DID YOUR BUDGET HERE START OFF ON THE FIRST SEPTEMBER.
SEPTEMBER? THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE.
IT STARTS JUST LIKE THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION, COMMISSIONER? YOUR HONOR, LISTEN.
WE'VE NEVER, WE'VE NEVER ASKED FOR A LINE ITEM, BUT I KNOW THAT PROBATION DIRECTORS AROUND THE STATE DO.
AND MY REPLACEMENT MAY COME TO YOU NEXT YEAR FOR A REQUEST OF A LINE ITEM, UH, IN ROCKWALL COUNTY.
THE GUY WITH THEIR BREAD, THE COUNTY GIVES HIM A LINE ITEM OF $10,000.
AND I KNOW THAT THESE OTHER SMALL COUNTIES, THE COUNTIES WILL APPROVE, WILL APPROVE A LINE ITEM
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LIKE I WAS ASKING YOU, TELLING YOU ABOUT A CHAIR OR, OR FILE CABINET OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.BUT WE'VE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T HAD IN 27 YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN THERE VERY MUCH TERMINAL.
SO PEOPLE KEEP THE SAME CHAIRS AND THEY WERE OUT EVENTUALLY.
BUT, UH, WHEN JUDGE WAS HERE AND THE FORMER AUDITOR WAS OVER THERE, UH, I JUST TELL HIM THAT WE NEEDED A CHAIR AND THAT HAPPENED ABOUT EVERY TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS.
AND THEN JUST TAKE IT OUTTA THEIR GENERAL FUND.
DO SOME COUNTIES CHARGE A, UH, FACILITY FEE OR A UH, UH, IN A, UH, UTILITY CHARGE FOR UTILITIES WAS AT ONE OF THE WORKSHOPS WE WENT TO.
AND SOMEONE INDICATED THAT SOME COUNTIES DID CHARGE THEIR PROBATION DEPARTMENT A FACILITY FEE ON A, UH, FEE OR A UTILITY FEE OR SOMETHING.
OR YOU'VE, YOU EVER HEARD OF THAT? OKAY.
I'VE NOT HEARD IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT AROUND, BUT RIGHT.
IN MY CIRCLE OF DIRECTOR FRIENDS, WE'VE NEVER OKAY.
PRETTY WELL JUST A WASH AND, UH, WHENEVER YOU I THE STATE, LIKE I SAID, THE NEXT GUY, THE NEXT GUY MAY WANT TO MAY REQUEST A, A LINE ITEM RIGHT.
OF A THOUSAND DOLLARS OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, TO DO THAT.
BUT I, PO COUNTY, I HAD TO DO THE ADULT AND JUVENILE REPORTS MM-HMM
AND INCLUDE YOUR BUDGET AND STUFF.
THEY, UH, AT ONE TIME PAID A FEE TO THE COUNTY FOR MY SERVICES.
DOES THE STATE ALLOW THAT BILL PAY? HUH? WE PAY THAT.
WHERE'S THAT AT? I DON'T EVER SEE IT.
I THINK IT'S ON THE, SOMEWHERE IN THERE THAT WE PAY, WE PAY A FISCAL SERVICE TO THE COUNTY TO DO THIS.
IS THAT UNDER THAT PROFESSIONAL FEES? YEAH, THAT'S IN THE PROFESSIONAL FEES.
OKAY, BECAUSE I, I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THAT, IF THAT WAS STILL A THING THAT HAPPENS, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW IF THEY CUT IT OUT AND THAT MONEY DOESN'T GO TO ME TOO LONG.
IT, BUT MONEY GOES INTO THE GENERAL FUND AND I'M NOT ONE THAT DOES THE REPORTS.
HOW MUCH WAS IT LAST YEAR? ABOUT 1500 OR SOMETHING.
IT'S IN THAT PROFESSIONAL FEED LINE ITEM.
14 FROM THE YEAR PRIOR TO THAT.
SO THE STATE SENDS US A CHECK FOR THAT.
I'M GONNA RESEARCH IT FROM 26.
I THINK THE MONEY, THE MONEY THAT THE STATE SENT US IS CALCULATED I THINK AT ABOUT 1 0 7, 2 5 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THAT'S HOW YOU REACH THAT NUMBER.
IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO FIND OUT.
AT OUR LAST, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WERE, I ASKED, YOU KNOW, THEY ALWAYS ASK FOR TOPICS TO BE DISCUSSED AT THE NEXT THING.
ONE THE INTERACTION IS BETWEEN ADULT PROBATION AND COUNTY AS WELL AS JUVENILE PROBATION.
BECAUSE I'VE NEVER REALLY BEEN, NEVER HEARD ANY DISCUSSIONS.
THERE'S REALLY NOT MUCH INTERACTION.
I GUESS Y'ALL HAVE A LOT MORE WITH JUVENILE, BUT Y'ALL BUDGET DON'T YOU? YES.
THEY HAVE THEIR OWN BOARD AND YEAH.
WHAT'S THE DISTRICT? AND AND WE WE DO CONTRIBUTE TO YES, YOUR HONOR, THE JUVENILE PROBATION, A LOT OF THE DON'T YOU? YES, BUT THAT'S, I'VE NEVER, I'VE NEVER EVEN HEARD THAT DISCUSSED AT ANY MEETING I MISSED.
I KIND OF, I THOUGHT WE GET RAISES AND THEIR BOARD PREVIOUS THROUGH OUR RAISE, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW WE DIDN'T GET RAISES.
UH, I THINK I ONE I THOUGHT I TOLD EVERYBODY GOT THAT.
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HAPPENS AT THE CHILDREN'S SHELTER.WHATEVER RAISE WE PROVIDE, THEY PROVIDE THEIR INCREASE BUT UH, UH, AND I ASSUME PROBABLY PROBATION.
OUR SYSTEM, OUR STATE PROBATION SYSTEM IS SO DIFFERENT THAT YOU MAY HAVE ONE SET OF JUDGES THAT WANT TO APPROVE A HIGHER RATE THAN THE OTHER SET OF JUDGES THAN ANOTHER JUDICIAL DISTRICT.
SO IT'S WHATEVER JUDGES WANT TO DO.
HOW DO THEY WANNA PAY THEIR CSS? SO IT'S THE, I KNOW IN JUVENILE WE TRY TO SPEND THE STATE'S MONEY BEFORE WE USE THE COUNTIES, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO WE ARE WE GOOD FOR A CHAIR IN A COUPLE YEARS? EVERY FOUR YEARS? PRESIDENTIAL YEARS YOU GET ONE.
YOU COME BACK AND ASK FOR IT, WE'LL LET YOU HAVE IT.
AND THIS IS YOUR LAST MONTH AND SO 27 YEARS.
MY LAST MONTH, UH, NEXT WEEK IS PROBABLY MY LAST FOUR WEEK WORK.
AND THEN, UH, I'M OFF AND DOING SOMETHING ELSE.
GOOD GRANDKIDS AND SEEING GRANDKIDS IN CALIFORNIA AND TRAVEL A LITTLE BIT.
YOU KNOW, YOU DEAL WITH THESE, YOU DEAL WITH SOME OF THESE PEOPLE THEY KNUCKLEHEADS SOMETIMES, BUT IT'S JUST AFTER 39 YEARS, 40 YEARS.
I STARTED OUT IN JUVENILE PROBATION, JUVENILE UH, DETENTION CENTER.
AND THEN I WENT, WORKED FOR THE BUREAU PRISONS AFTER THAT WAS IN BUREAU PRISONS FOR SIX YEARS.
THEN I STARTED THE ADULT SYSTEM IN DALLAS FOR FIVE.
AND THEN MR. KRAUS, I DUNNO IF Y'ALL KNOW MR. KRAUSE.
HE KIND OF RECRUITED ME TO COME HERE AND UH, WORK MY WAY UP.
YOU MR. WE'LL SEE JUST THE OLD MEAT OLD NEWS TOMORROW.
ANYBODY ELSE GOT ANYTHING? THANK YOU SIR.
KAREN, YOU HAD ME GOING UP THERE GOING TO GIVE YOU SOME MONEY.
CAN WE TAKE A LITTLE, SO GOOD.
SO THE JUVENILE PROBATION, WE PAY THEIR SALARIES BUT PART OF, NOT PART OF THEM.
THAT'S ANOTHER REASON I ASKED JUST SO TO SEE HOW THAT WORKS.
AND WE, WE HAVE A JUVENILE BOARD MEETING, UH, MONDAY OR WHATEVER IT WAS.
AND THERE'S NO RHYME OR REASON HOW YOU GET JUVENILE.
I MEAN PROBATION MONEY, IT'S DISTRIBUTED BY THE STATE BUT NOBODY KNOWS HOW MONEY DISTRIBUTED.
WE DON'T, WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO INCREASE OUR PORTION, DECREASE OUR PORTION.
I MEAN INCREASE OUR PORTION FROM THE STATE.
WE 5% OF OUR, WELL THAT'S, THAT'S A MYSTERY HOW MUCH TIME IT WORK OUT WHAT WE DID.
LIKE 64 50 MAYBE OUR PIECE IS NOT COMING.
WELL I'M LOOKING FOR THE BUDGET.
IT SAYS SHE CANNOT SUBMIT HER WORKSHEETS UNTIL HER JUVENILE BOARD HAS APPROVED HER BUDGET.
BUT I CAN TELL YOU THE ONLY REQUEST TO INCREASE THE COUNTY MONEY IS 7,300 WITH DETENTION.
HUNT COUNTY HAS RAISED THEIR DAILY RATE BY FIVE.
DISAGREE MAY COVER THE ADDITIONAL CAUSE OF MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES AND DETENTION THAT ARE NOW REQUIRED BY THE STATE.
AND I THINK THAT'S PRETTY ACCURATE.
THAT'S PRETTY WELL CUT AND DRIED.
DON'T WE TAKE WALK KIND IN BETWEEN? TAKE A QUICK BREAK.
WELL, I JUST NEED TO KNOW IF I'M POSITIVE.
Y'ALL WERE ASKING ME ABOUT THIS UH, JOHNNY
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HEALTH PHONE SYSTEM ON IT THAT WAS CARRIED IN A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT.WE GONNA BE LESSING THAT BY 19,000.
DO YOU WANNA MAKE A NOTE OF THAT? PARDON ME? THIS IS ID UH, THIS IS IN A DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT IN THE GENERAL FUND.
THIS IS WHERE THIS HAS BEEN PAID ANNUALLY.
THAT'S WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN PAID.
I WILL BE LOWERING THAT TO, UH, 6,500 AND THAT 19 WILL TO SIX.
LAURA IS SUPPOSED TO BE ON HER WAY OVER I, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU.
WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS WHAT, THAT'S THE ONLY YOU, WHAT? THAT'S KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE GETTING.
I JUST WONDER WHAT, WHAT THEY'RE CHARGING US VERSUS WHAT I DIDN'T KNOW.
SO SO FAR WE'VE THIS ME ALREADY? YES.
MY UH, DEPUTY CHIEF IS WANTED TO GET COPIES OF HUNDRED.
WE HAD BEEN GETTING THEM, I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS OR SMITH COUNTY.
THAT'S WHERE WE HAD MADE A LOT MONEY.
I DON'T THINK WE PUT ANYTHING IN THERE.
ACTUALLY IT'S ACTUALLY A VERY GOOD DEAL.
THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO COMPARISON IN AND WE WENT UP.
THERE'S NO COMPARISON IN CAN'T AFFORD, YOU CAN'T AFFORD OH, I KNOW.
AND THIS IS REALLY A GOOD DEAL.
HE JUST WENT TO GO GET MONDAY.
I DIDN'T, I JUST WALKED OUT THAT HEY MY MIND'S.
BUT RIGHT HERE, I DO THE SAME ABOUT ALL.
WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DETENTION, LET ME JUST ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS Y'ALL HAVE.
UM, DETENTION IS, IS OBVIOUSLY THE BIGGEST EXPENSE THAT WE HAVE.
SOMETIMES PEOPLE WILL WANT TO KNOW, WHY DON'T WE RUN OUR OWN DETENTION CENTER? WOULDN'T IT BE BETTER IF WE RAN ONE AND WE CHARGED FOR THE PEOPLE? NO, THAT, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES A MILLION DOLLARS TO BUILD ONE.
IT TAKES 700 TO $800,000 PLUS TO RUN IT.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA MAKE ANY MONEY OFF OF IT.
UM, SO FOR A HUNDRED AND NOW $60,000, IT'S GONNA BE HUNDRED 60,600 A YEAR.
WE HAVE THE EQUIVALENT OF A DETENTION CENTER.
WE HAVE, WE CAN USE IT UP TO, UM, FOUR BEDS PER DAY TIMES 365.
UM, AND WE CAN, THAT WHAT THAT TOTAL NUMBER IS, WE CAN USE THOSE WHENEVER.
WE CAN HAVE 10 KIDS IN THERE AT ONE TIME AND THERE'S NO EXTRA CHARGE.
IF WE DON'T EXCEED THAT FOUR TIMES 365, WE, IF WE DON'T EXCEED THAT TOTAL NUMBER, WE DON'T PAY ANY ADDITIONAL MONEY.
SO IT'S THE EQUIVALENT OF HAVING A DETENTION CENTER FOR $160,000 BECAUSE WE CAN USE IT.
HOWEVER, WHENEVER, IF WE WERE TO EXCEED THAT, WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS, THEN WE WOULD, UM, WE WOULD HAVE TO PAY THE HUNDRED $10 PER PER DAY.
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NOT, WE'VE NOT EXCEEDED, WE THIS YEAR WE'RE COMING A LITTLE BIT CLOSE.YOU NOTICE TWO YEARS AGO LAST WE REDUCED OUR NUMBER OF BEDS, UM, FROM SIX TO FOUR.
UM, AND THAT SAVE QUITE A CHUNK OF MONEY.
BUT, UM, THAT INCREASE IN, IN DETENTION COSTS AT $7,300 IS COST THAT THEY ARE PASSING ONTO US.
THE STATE IS NOW REQUIRING A MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL, A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL, TO BE ON STAFF AND AVAILABLE 24 7 TO THAT FACILITY.
SO THAT'S COSTING THEM MORE MONEY.
SO THEY'RE PASSING IT COSTS ON US, KNOW THEIR OWN UNFUNDED MANDATE, BUT WE'VE HAD SEVERAL OF THOSE.
ANOTHER THING THAT WE HAVE BEEN, THAT WE'RE DOING, UM, SINCE THE JUVENILE PROBATION COMMISSION AND THE TEXAS YOUTH COMMISSION, THEY, THEY, UM, COMBINED, THEY ACTUALLY, THEY, UH, CLOSED BOTH COMMISSIONS AND THEY CREATED A NEW AGENCY.
AND IN THAT NEW AGENCY, THEY COVER ALL JUVENILE SERVICES.
ANY KID THAT BREAKS THE LAW IN TEXAS BETWEEN THE AGES OF 10 AND 17 IS NOW THAT SYSTEM OVERSEES THAT.
AND THERE'S FIELD SERVICE, WHICH IS WHAT WE DO.
AND THERE'S INSTITUTIONAL SERVICE, WHICH IS WHAT THE STATE DOES.
WELL, NOW THAT WE'RE ALL ONE AGENCY, THE INSTITUTION SERVICE SUCKS THE MONEY OFF.
SO THIS YEAR WE'RE GETTING LESS FUNDING FROM THE STATE THAN WE GOT LAST YEAR, $6,700.
BUT WE'RE ALSO BEING ASKED TO PROVIDE MORE LOCAL SERVICES THAN WE'VE EVER PROVIDED BEFORE.
SO MY PEOPLE ARE BEING TRAINED TO DO ADDITIONAL THINGS LIKE MOTIVATIONAL INTERVIEWING AND, UM, JUST DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROGRAMMING THAT WE'RE HAVING TO OFFER ON THE LOCAL LEVEL THAT WE WEREN'T NECESSARILY DOING BEFORE.
SO THE BOTTOM LINE ON THIS PAGE, IT IS, I'M ASKING FOR $7,300 TO COVER THE INCREASE IN DETENTION COST.
WHAT IS YOUR SALE ASSET? THAT WAS A, A VEHICLE THAT WAS, THAT WAS AUCTIONED.
AND WHILE I OUT, YOU MAY HAVE MENTIONED THIS, ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER IN OUR MEETING, IN OUR BOARD MEETING EARLIER MONDAY WAS HOW THE STATE SENDS SOME MONEY TO THE COUNTIES.
AND I WAS TELLING THE COMMISSION'S COURT, IT'S KIND OF A MYSTERY ABOUT HOW THEY DO IT.
AND WE'RE GONNA TRY TO FIND OUT SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT HOW THOSE, SUPPOSEDLY BY POPULATION, IT'S ABOUT POPULATION.
THE NUMBER OF REFERRALS THAT YOU RECEIVE.
UM, WHAT I'VE DISCOVERED OVER THE YEARS IS IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER WHAT WE DO.
THEY'RE GONNA GIVE US WHAT THEY'RE GONNA GIVE US.
AND IT'S OUR JOB TO MAKE THE VERY MOST OF IT THAT WE CAN.
BECAUSE NOTHING WE DO IS GONNA, NOW, IF WE MIS, IF WE MISHANDLED IT, IF WE WEREN'T, IF WHEN WE WERE AUDITED, IT WAS NOT ACCOUNTED FOR CORRECTLY, THEY WOULD TAKE OUR, THEY WOULD CUT OUR MONEY.
THREE YEARS AGO, WE WERE AUDITED BY THE STATE AND WE GOT A HUNDRED PERCENT ON OUR AUDIT, WHICH I, I'M BRAGGING ON US, YOU KNOW, MY OFFICE AND HER OFFICE.
THAT'S, UM, THERE WERE THREE IN THE STATE IN OUR, IN THREE YEARS NOW.
SO WE DO, WE DO WORK VERY HARD TO MANAGE THE MONEY, UM, IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE STANDARD SO THAT WHEN WE ARE AUDITED, WE CAN SHOW WE'VE SPENT EVERY DOLLAR THE WAY THAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE SPENT.
THEY'LL CHANGE THE FORMULA IN MIDDLE OF YEAR.
THEY HAD BEEN KNOWN TO COME IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR, REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THEY'RE GONNA GIVE US.
THAT HAPPENED THREE YEARS AGO.
THEY REDUCED IT BY 10% IN THE MIDDLE YEAR.
IS THERE SOME KIND OF A, WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE PERCENTAGE WISE? NO, SIR.
IF IT'S NOT LIKE A PERCENTAGE, IT'S A WEIGHTED, UH, DEPENDS ON WHERE YOUR COUNTY IS, THE AMOUNT OF CRIME IN YOUR COUNTY, UH, THE COUNTY YOU'RE ADJACENT TO, UM, THE METROPOLITAN AREAS TO MR. AND WE HAVE NO INPUT.
IN FACT, LOOK AT THE REVENUE PAGE AND YOU'LL SEE HOW MUCH IT VARIES HERE ON THE STATE.
ON THE SECOND 2012, WE GOT 5 54 ACTUAL, THAT WAS ACTUALLY LOST, BUT AUDITED RECEIVED IN 2013, WE GOT THREE 81,000.
WE'VE ADOPTED A BUDGET, FOUR 46,000.
AND AS FAR AS WE KNOW, WE'RE GONNA GET APPROXIMATE WHAT THEY TOLD US THIS YEAR IN THE AMENDMENT TO OUR BUDGET.
WE'RE THE MIDDLE OF THE BIENNIUM.
SO WE DON'T HAVE TO RENEGOTIATE.
WE DON'T NEGOTIATE, BUT REDO THE ENTIRE BUDGET.
BUT THEY DO SEND US AN AMENDMENT AND IT GIVES US OUR NEW DOLLARS.
AND SO THIS YEAR WE ARE TOLD WE'RE
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GOING TO RECEIVE $439,992 IN STATE AID FUNDS.NOW, THERE ARE THREE OTHER STATE FUNDS THAT I RECEIVED.
THEY HAVE NO COUNTY MONEY, AND I MADE NO CHANGES IN THOSE.
UM, SO IN, IN AN ATTEMPT, REALLY NOT TO OVERWHELM YOU WITH A LOT OF INFORMATION, I DIDN'T BRING THOSE BECAUSE THERE'S NO COUNTY MONEY.
I DIDN'T PUT ANY CHANGES IN THOSE.
GPR AMOUNT HAS REMAINED PRETTY WELL STEADY SINCE 12.
AND, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY DO BASE OUR LEVEL OF FUNDING ON IF THE COUNTY LEVEL OF FUNDING DROPS, THEY LOOK AT THREE YEARS AGO.
AND IF YOU DROP YOUR LEVEL OF COUNTY FUNDING, THEY'LL REDUCE STATE FUNDING BY THAT PROPORTIONATELY.
'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW THE COUNTIES TO USE STATE FUNDS TO SUB PLAN COUNTY FUNDING.
SO THEY WANT THE COUNTY FUNDING, THE LEVEL OF FUNDING TO MAINTAIN AT LEAST THE SAME STATUS QUO.
SO WHILE THEY CAN RAISE THEIR MONEY, WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO RAISE OUR MONEY, BUT IF WE REDUCE OUR MONEY, THEN THEY'RE GONNA REDUCE THEIR MONEY.
SOMETHING WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT.
AND THE YEAR THAT THEY CUT IT SO HEAVILY THAT, UH, 2013, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WE HAD A COUPLE POSITIONS YOU JUST DIDN'T FILL, DIDN'T OF YES, SIR.
I COULD SEE, I COULD SEE IT COMING.
AND SO IF I HAD SOMEONE LEAVE, I DIDN'T FILL THAT POSITION.
AND WE DON'T HAVE TURNOVER IN MY OFFICE.
WE JUST DON'T HAVE TURNOVER VERY.
I DIDN'T HAVE TO LET ANYBODY OFF.
BUT WE DID, WE DID DO SOME, AND WE DISCUSSED IN THE COURT MEETING THE OTHER DAY, I THINK YOU HAVE 90 SOME OF THEM, ABOUT 90 KIDS ON SUPERVISION AT ANY GIVEN TIME, DIFFERENT LEVELS OF SUPERVISION.
SOME OF THOSE ARE KIDS THAT HAVE NOT YET BEEN TO COURT.
SOME OF THOSE ARE KIDS THAT WE ARE SUPERVISING, HOPING THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO TO COURT HOPING THEY DON'T GET ANY MORE TROUBLE.
WE GIVE 'EM A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME, THEY DON'T GET ANY MORE TROUBLE AND THEY DON'T GO TO COURT.
AND OF COURSE, THE, SOME KIDS DO GO TO COURT AND ARE ON COURT OF PROBATION, SOME OF 'EM, FOR TWO YEARS, WE'VE HAD A LARGER NUMBER OF SIGNIFICANT INCREASE, A STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN AGGRAVATED SEX OFFENDERS.
THOSE KIDS ARE REALLY, UM, THEY SUCK UP YOUR SERVICES.
YOUR PROBATION OFFICER SEE THEM AT LEAST ONCE A WEEK, SOMETIMES TWICE A WEEK.
THEY GET GROUP COUNSELING, THEY GET INDIVIDUAL COUNSELING, THEY GET VISITS AT THE SCHOOL.
UM, AND HISTORICALLY THEY'RE VERY COMPLIANT, BUT BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THEIR OFFENSE, WE KEEP A REAL TIGHT ROUND ON.
TELL THEM THE STORY THAT YOU TOLD US THE OTHER DAY ABOUT THE YOUNG MAN THAT YOU WOUND UP FINALLY SEEING AND JUST SO THAT WAS AN EYE OPENER.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO GIVE ALL THE DETAILS.
WELL, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF OUR KIDS, UM, ALL OF OUR KIDS THAT GO TO COURT HAVE A PSYCHOLOGICAL EVALUATION.
SOME OF OUR KIDS NEED PSYCHIATRIC MEDICATION.
SO WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH A PSYCHIATRIST PAYING FLAT RATE, AND HE SEES OUR KIDS FOR MEDICATION.
HE SAW A CHILD THAT WE HAD ON PROBATION, UM, AND PROBATION OFFICER REFERRED HIM BECAUSE HE THOUGHT HE WAS DEPRESSED AND COULDN'T EVEN TALK TO HIM.
HE WOULDN'T OPEN UP AND HE JUST COULDN'T CONNECT WITH HIM.
SO HE REFERRED HIM TO THE PSYCHIATRIST THAT THE ONE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SOCIOPATH.
YEAH, HE WAS ACTUALLY WAS 14, 14.
BUT, UM, ANYWAY, HE, UM, UH, THE PSYCHIATRIST COULDN'T GET A HANDLE ON THAT.
IS THIS A PSYCHIATRIC DISORDER? IS IT PSYCHOLOGICAL DISORDER IS WHAT IS GOING ON? HE THOUGHT HE WAS DEPRESSED AND HE WAS REAL CONCERNED BECAUSE HE COULDN'T GET HIM TO OPEN UP AND HE WAS EVEN THINKING ABOUT HOSPITALIZING.
SO HE ASKED ME, I'M A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL, I I HAVE A, A LICENSE AS A COUNSELOR.
SO HE ASKED ME TO SIT DOWN AND TALK TO THE KID.
AND, UM, ABOUT 20 MINUTES, IT WAS PRETTY CLEAR HIS KID'S A SOCIOPATH.
I MEAN, HE HAD TALKED ABOUT KILLING, UM, HIS PARENTS.
HE WAS NOT GOING TO KILL HIS PARENTS BECAUSE HE HAD THOUGHT ABOUT IT.
HE HAD MADE COME TO THE DECISION THAT IT WAS NOT WORTH THE CONSEQUENCE OF KILLING HIS PARENTS.
BUT HE HAD THOUGHT ALL OF THAT OUT.
UM, AND HE WAS VERY INTELLIGENT.
SO IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING TO ME.
WE DON'T GET MANY OF THOSE KINDS OF KIDS.
BUT A KID LIKE THAT WHO'S REALLY SMART AND HE'S REALLY, I WON'T EVEN SAY SICK, BECAUSE SICK IMPLIES THAT THERE'S SOME WAY WHO CAN FIX THAT.
AND ALL YOU CAN DO IS HOPE THAT HE'S SMART ENOUGH TO SEE THAT THE CONSEQUENCES FOR VIOLENT BEHAVIOR ARE GONNA BE NOT WORTH WHATEVER HE GETS OUTTA IT.