NO, NO, THEY WON'T FROM THE CAPE.
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YEAH.[Call to Order]
SPECIAL WORKSHOP MEETING OR THE CALL FROM COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURTS CALLED TO ORDER IT'S TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 17TH, 2020.UH, WE WERE IN THE, WE ACTUALLY, UH, ARE IN THE COMMISSIONERS COURTROOM TODAY.
UH, WE HAD A CONFLICT WITH THE CONFERENCE RING, SO WE'RE DOWN HERE TODAY.
UM, AND I'LL, I HAVE ONE BIT OF ONE LITTLE ITEM OF ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE TODAY AT ONE 30, THE CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY CENTER OF COFFIN COUNTY IS GOING TO BE HAVING AN EVENT TO KICK AN OFF THEIR, UH, THE PROGRAM TO REFURBISH A BUILDING.
THAT'S GOING TO BE NEXT TO THE EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER.
THAT'S AT ONE 30 AND, UH, IT'D BE GREAT.
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO COME.
I HOPE THE COMMISSIONERS CAN COME BE, UH, IT'S REALLY AM.
THE ADVOCACY CENTER DOES GREAT WORK AND, UM, LOTS OF GOOD, LOTS OF GOOD PLANS GOING ON.
[1. Raylan Smith; To receive a full report on the Justice Center and Pet Adoption Center.]
SO NOW TO THE BUSINESS OF THE WORKSHOP, RAYMOND SMITH RECEIVE A FULL REPORT FOR THE JUSTICE CENTER AND PET ADOPTION CENTER.UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE EVERYONE HERE TODAY.
UH, WE HAVE ARCHITECTS FROM THE JUSTICE CENTER PET ADOPTION CENTER AND THEN ALSO GALLAGHER CONSTRUCTION.
UM, SO I KIND OF WANTED TO OPEN THE MEETING TODAY TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A TIMELINE OF THE MEETINGS AND EVERYONE THAT'S BEEN INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS, JUST KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT HAS GOTTEN US TO THIS POINT AND SOME OF THE DEADLINES THAT WE HAVE COMING UP, AND THEN WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO JUST Q AND A AND DISCUSSION BETWEEN YOU AND THE ARCHITECTS AND THEN ALSO OUR CONSTRUCTION MANAGER.
UM, IF THAT WORKS OKAY WITH Y'ALL.
UM, SO AS FAR AS OUT, AND I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT BOTH PROJECTS TOGETHER BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN WORKING HAND IN HAND FROM THE BEGINNING, BOTH THE ARCHITECTS HAVE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER AND THEN ALSO THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER HAS BEEN KIND OF THE GO-BETWEEN AS WELL.
SO AS YOU RECALL, BACK IN DECEMBER IS WHEN WE STARTED THE RFP PROCESS.
UM, WE HAD CONTRACTS FOR BOTH PROJECTS AND THE CMA DONE BY FEBRUARY.
UH, OUR KICKOFF MEETING FOR BOTH PROJECTS WAS MARCH 12TH.
SO THAT'S WHEN EVERYTHING STARTED, UM, YOUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR EACH PROJECT OR THE JUSTICE CENTER, GALLAGHER CONSTRUCTION SET ON THE COMMITTEE, COMMISSIONER BARBER, JUDGE RICHARDS, JUDGE CHITTY, JERRY DEAN, KAREN MCLEOD, KAREN BADGLEY, BRIAN BEAVERS, BOBBY BRIDGES, NATHAN COLLINS, AND MYSELF FOR PET ADOPTION.
YOU HAD GALLAGHER CONSTRUCTION COMMISSIONER KATE'S JUDGE RICHARDS, JERRY DEAN, KAREN MCLEOD, KAREN BADGLEY, FRONT-END BEAVERS PAM QUARTER, BOBBY BRIDGES, MIKE HOLDER WITH THE CITY OF KAUFFMAN, MYSELF AND IN JULY OF 2020 GALLAGHER CONSTRUCTION, UM, BROUGHT ON AS A CONSULTANT, THE HUMANE SOCIETY OF NORTH TEXAS, SO THAT THEY COULD HELP WITH EQUIPMENT AND SOME OF THE DESIGN ASPECTS OF IT, THE PET ADOPTION CENTER.
UM, SO WITHIN SEVEN MONTHS WE HAVE GOTTEN TO THIS PROCESS AND WE ARE GETTING READY TO GET THE BID DOCUMENTS TOGETHER.
UM, BY THE END OF MARCH, WE HAD ALREADY ASKED BOTH ARCHITECTS TO ATTEMPT TO GET THE SCHEDULING AND PROJECT TIMELINES TOGETHER SO THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY HAVE BOTH THESE PROJECTS BIDDING OUT AT THE SAME TIME TO HAVE THE COST SAVINGS FOR CONSTRUCTION, SO THAT, UM, THAT GOAL WAS LAID OUT FROM THE BEGINNING.
UM, IT WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE A TOUGHER GOAL ON THE PET ADOPTION SIDE, BECAUSE WE HAD SOME SITE, WE HAD SOME LOCATION CONCERNS.
UM, WE HAD SOME SPACE CONCERNS, SO THEY HAD A LITTLE BIT MORE TO DEAL WITH THAT.
UM, THEY WERE DEFINITELY ABLE TO, TO PULL IT OFF, UM, THE MAIN DISCUSSIONS THAT WERE HAD DURING THE MONTHS OF APRIL AND MAY THE DISCUSSION ITEMS WHERE YOUR GALLERY SPACES, YOUR CEREMONIAL COURTROOM SEATING, JURY ASSEMBLY, UM, AS FAR AS THE DESIGN
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OF THE JUSTICE CENTER ITSELF.MOST OF THE DISCUSSION WAS AROUND THE OCCUPANCY AND THE SIZE OF THE COURTROOMS, UM, JUDGE CHITTY.
UM, AND I, I THINK HOK WILL KIND OF SIGN FOR THIS.
UM, IT, THE BUILDING WAS BUILT AROUND THE NUMBER OF COURTROOMS AND THE OCCUPANCY OF EACH COURTROOM AND, UM, ALSO SHARE FEVERS AS FAR AS INMATE HOLDING AND HOW WE WOULD TRANSPORT THE INMATES.
AND THEN THE OFFICE SPACE WAS KIND OF BUILT AROUND WHAT WAS LEFT WHILE STILL MAINTAINING THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT WE NEEDED FOR CONSTRUCTION.
UM, BY JUNE, JUNE ON JUNE 2ND HOK.
AND I SAT IN WITH EACH OF OUR USER DEPARTMENTS AND WE MET WITH EVERY DEPARTMENT THAT DAY INDIVIDUALLY TO SIT DOWN AND TALK TO THEM ABOUT THEIR INDIVIDUAL REQUESTS BASED ON THEIR CURRENT STAFFING.
THEY HAD ALREADY DONE THE PROGRAM WORK, UM, OVER THE SUMMER OR THE PREVIOUS SUMMER, WHENEVER THEY HAD DONE THE BOND WORK FOR US.
SO THEY WENT BACK OVER THE PROGRAMMING WITH EACH DEPARTMENT, MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAD THE CORRECT STAFFING NUMBERS SO THAT WHENEVER THEY WERE WORKING FOR THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IN THE OFFICE SPACE, THAT, UM, THEY HAD THE CORRECT PROGRAMMING GOING IN.
AND SO WE INDIVIDUALLY MET WITH, UM, JUDGE CHITTY TO GO OVER THE JUDICIAL CHAMBERS.
WE ALSO HAD, UM, JP ONE AT THAT TIME DISTRICT CLERK, COUNTY CLERK, PUBLIC DEFENDER, ADULT PROBATION, AS WELL AS THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
UM, IN JUNE, WE CAME BACK TOGETHER WITH THE EXECUTIVE TEAM, WITH THE ANIMAL SHELTER.
THAT'S WHEN WE WERE REALLY WRAPPING UP THE, UM, ACTUALLY THAT'S WHEN COVID REALLY ALLOWED US TO START MEETING ONE-ON-ONE AND WE WERE WRAPPING UP KIND OF THE LAND CONCERNS AND WE HAD A GOOD SITE PLAN GOING FORWARD FOR THE ANIMAL SHELTER.
UM, SO IF YOU REALLY LOOK AT HOW FAR THEY'VE COME, THEY WERE ACTUALLY HITTING THE GROUND RUNNING IN JUNE BECAUSE WE FINALLY HAD A GOOD THOUGHT PLAN FOR THEM MOVING FORWARD.
UM, JUNE 12TH IS WHEN HOK HAD COME TOGETHER AND PUT TOGETHER A BETTER PLAN.
WE THOUGHT FOR THE DISTRICT AND THE COUNTY CLERK THAT'S WHEN WE REALLY STARTED TALKING TO THEM ABOUT SOME OF THEIR SPACE NEEDS.
AND THEN ALSO THE STORAGE AT THE END OF JUNE.
UM, WE MET WITH SOUTHWEST SOLUTIONS.
THEY CAME OUT AND WENT OVER SOUTH CAMPUS.
THEY ALSO LOOKED AT ARCHIVED AND ACTIVE FILES HERE AT THE COURTHOUSE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS SPACE AT THE JUSTICE CENTER FOR BOTH DISTRICT AND COUNTY CLERK.
DO YOU HAVE ALL OF THEIR FILES AT THE JUSTICE CENTER? SO THAT WAS A HUGE UNDERTAKING.
IT WAS A HUGE GOAL THAT HOK WAS ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH AND THERE'S ROOM TO GROW IN THE STORAGE THAT THEY HAVE THERE AT THE FACILITY.
UM, MID JUNE IS WHEN WE GOT THE PRELIMINARY FLOOR PLANS FOR THE PET ADOPTION CENTER.
AND THAT'S WHEN WE STARTED WORKING ON, UM, JUST MAKING TWEAKS AND SQUARE FOOTAGE AND LOOKING AT PROGRAMMING NUMBERS, UH, THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT WAS COMPLETELY DONE.
SO THAT'S WHEN, UM, WE WERE ABLE TO REALLY START LOOKING AT THE PROGRAM ITSELF.
JULY WAS WHEN THE HUMANE SOCIETY OF NORTH TEXAS CAME ON BOARD.
THEY WERE A GREAT HELP REGARDING THE BUILDING DESIGN, SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, AND JUST KIND OF THERE, THEY WERE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE DESIGN AND MAYBE HOW THE OPERATIONS WOULD WORK.
ONCE WE HAD STAFF IN THERE AND HOW THE BUILDING ITSELF WOULD BE RUN.
UH, IN JULY WE HAD THE JUSTICE CENTER, WE HAD SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT SECURITY AND I T THAT IS WHEN SHERIFF FEVERS, BRUCE JANUARY, ALSO NATHAN AND JUDGE CHITTY.
THEY WENT THROUGH PHYSICAL SECURITY, THE COURTROOM AB DESIGN.
WE LOOKED AT OUTSIDE CAMERAS IN THE PARKING LOT, UM, LOCATION, ET CETERA, MID JULY'S WHEN THEY COMPLETED THE WELL THAT'S WHEN WE WENT INTO DESIGN DEVELOPMENT, CHITTY MET AGAIN ABOUT COURTROOM LAYOUT AS FAR AS THE NUMBER OF SEATS IN EACH COURTROOM.
UM, AUGUST 20TH IS WHEN QUORUM OFFICIALLY CAUGHT UP WITH HOK.
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EVERYONE HAD THE GOAL TO FINISH DESIGN DEVELOPMENT BY OCTOBER 31ST.THAT'S WHEN DAVID OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCED AT THE END OF OCTOBER THAT, UM, HE WOULD BE MOVING FORWARD, UH, AUGUST 25TH IS WHEN HOK CAME TO YOU AND GAVE YOU THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT UPDATE AS SEPTEMBER 9TH.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO LET Y'ALL KNOW THAT THAT'S WHEN WE GOT OUR SCHEMATIC DESIGN APPROVAL FROM THE, UH, COMMISSION ON JAIL STANDARDS.
SO WE HAVE BEEN KEEPING UP WITH THOSE LETTERS AS WELL THROUGH EACH PHASE, WE'VE GOTTEN APPROVAL.
UH, ON THE 10TH, WE MET WITH JUDGE BLAIR, THE COURT COORDINATORS IN COURT REPORTERS REGARDING THE COURTROOM MILLWORK AND A B FROM THAT MEETING.
UM, WE SCHEDULED A SEPARATE MEETING TO GO OVER AVI TV, MOUNTS, ET CETERA, INTO ALSO INCLUDE THE BAILIFF'S CAUSE WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE A PART OF THE NEXT MEETING IN SEPTEMBER.
UM, SHERIFF BEAVER STAFF ALSO MET SEPARATELY TO GO OVER SECURITY.
WE HAD OUR FURNITURE MEETING WITH EACH INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT IN SEPTEMBER.
WE HAD ANOTHER MEETING WITH JUDGE BLAIR AND OUR IT DEPARTMENT IN COURT COORDINATORS IN SEPTEMBER, UM, IN OCTOBER IS WHEN WE STARTED TO FINALIZE OUR PLANS WITH QUORUM WITH THE PET ADOPTION CENTER.
AND THAT'S WHEN WE REALLY STARTED HAVING THE CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN QUORUM AND HOK TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE GOING TO SHARE LIKE THE HARDWARE, THE LIGHTING SIGNAGE IN SOME OF THE FIXTURES BETWEEN THE TWO FACILITIES SO THAT, UM, THEY'RE INTERCHANGEABLE AND IT ALSO HELP ON OUR BIDDING.
SO, UM, THERE'LL BE A LOT OF THE SAME PHONES, SAME KEY CARDS, ANY OF THAT STUFF THAT WE CAN BID OUT EXACTLY THE SAME.
AND IT WILL ALSO HELP OUR FACILITIES AND MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT.
UM, AGAIN, IN OCTOBER, WE GOT OUR DESIGN DEVELOPMENT DOCUMENTS APPROVAL FROM THE COMMISSIONS ON JAIL STANDARDS.
QUORUM MADE THEIR PRESENTATION TO YOU OCTOBER 13TH.
UM, ON OCTOBER 30TH, WE HAD OUR OPERATIONS MEETING WITH THE DISTRICT CLERK.
WE ALSO MET WITH THE BAILIFFS AT THAT TIME AND WE JUST, WE WENT THROUGH THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS WHILE COURT WAS GOING ON WITH THE DISTRICT CLERK AND HOW THEY RAN WITH THE BAILIFF'S, HOW THE INMATE, UM, MOVEMENT WOULD HA WOULD WORK THROUGH THE JUSTICE CENTER THAT AFTERNOON IS WHEN WE MET WITH ALL OF THE JUDGES, INCLUDING THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
UM, AT THAT TIME WE ADDED ADDITIONAL INMATE ATTORNEY, CLIENT AREAS BETWEEN THE COURTROOMS ON EACH ONE OF THE LEVELS.
WE ALSO WERE ABLE TO ADD A ROW OF SPACE IN EACH COURTROOM, WHICH I THINK ADDED APPROXIMATELY 15, 16, ABOUT 30 ON EACH SIDE.
YEAH, SO APPROXIMATELY 30 PEOPLE IN EACH COURTROOM.
UM, AND WE WERE ABLE TO ADD ADDITIONAL CONFERENCE ROOMS. SO WE, WE W WE MOVED SOME WALLS, UH, FOR THE JUDGES.
WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE THE LAW LIBRARY DOWN TO THE LOWER LEVEL.
WE MADE SOME, UM, ADJUSTMENTS FOR THE JUDGES TO GIVE THEM SOME SPACE.
UH, EVERYONE SEEMED REALLY HAPPY.
WE GAVE SOME SPACE FOR ADULT PROBATION TO SPEAK WITH THE INMATES AFTER COURT.
UM, AND ULTIMATELY JP NUMBER ONE WAS NEW BACK TO SOUTH CAMPUS.
SO THEY ALSO WERE ABLE TO DO THE COURTROOM ASSIGNMENTS THAT DAY.
UM, AND THAT KIND OF BRINGS US UP TO THIS POINT TODAY, AFTER THIS MEETING, WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION SITE WITH THE SHERIFF, BECAUSE WE ARE FIXING TO GO INTO BIDDING AND WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THE SITE ITSELF IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE ONCE CONSTRUCTION STARTS HAPPENING AND SOME OF THE, THE DO'S AND DON'TS AND PREPARING FOR EMERGENCIES OUT THERE WHILE SHERIFF IS STILL RUNNING A JAIL.
SO, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? I HAVE A QUESTION.
SO YOU MENTIONED THAT THE JP ONE IS NOW REORIENTED BACK TO THE SOUTH CAMPUS.
SO WHAT, WHAT PLANNING DO WE HAVE FOR THE EVENTUALITY THAT THE SOUTH CAMPUS? UM, WELL, ONE DAY LEAVE THE COUNTY'S INVENTORY.
IT WILL BE PART OF THE FACILITIES MASTER PLAN.
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A DECISION BASED ON THE CURRENT NEED AT THE JUSTICE CENTER, UM, BECAUSE OF THE JURY SELECTION ROOM AND THE CORPORATE COURTROOMS NEEDED, UM, AND THE CHANGES THAT WERE BEING MADE ALSO TO THE OFFICE SPACES TO ACCOMMODATE THE JP AND CONSTABLE CAUSE IT IS A DIFFERENT SET UP.UM, SO THAT WILL ULTIMATELY BE PUT INTO THE FACILITIES MASTER PLAN.
SO THERE'S THAT, THERE'S THAT CODE FOR? WE'LL HAVE TO ACQUIRE SOME ADDITIONAL SPACE FOR JP ONE AT SOME POINT, OR THERE, SHE MAY ULTIMATELY END UP AT THE JUSTICE CENTER, BUT AT THIS POINT, AS FAR AS CONSTRUCTION AT THE JUSTICE CENTER, WE WILL JUST, THERE WERE ACCOMMODATIONS THAT WERE BEING MADE AT THE, AT THE JUSTICE CENTER FOR THAT.
AND RIGHT NOW EACH FLOOR CAN BE BUILT EXACTLY THE SAME.
AND, UM, SO IT WILL ACTUALLY SAVE ON THAT FOR HER TO REMAIN AT SOUTH CAMPUS.
AND SO IF THERE ARE ADJUSTMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE TO MOVE HER TO THE JUSTICE CENTER, WE CAN DO THAT AT THAT TIME LATER.
SO THERE'LL BE, THERE'LL BE SPACE IF THAT'S OKAY.
CAUSE THERE WILL BE A COURTROOM RIGHT NOW.
IT WILL BE USED FOR, UM, JURY SELECTION.
IT COULD BE MADE TO THE COURT HOUSE HERE.
I MEAN, I MEAN, CAUSE THE, THE PRECINCT, UH, COMMISSIONER, MATT, MATT, I MEAN THAT MIGHT BE WHERE HIS OFFICE IS.
WELL, THE DYNAMICS OF THE MASTER PLAN FOR THE JP COURT, THE DYNAMICS ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN THE, THE COUNTY COURTS OF LAW AND THE DISTRICT COURTS JUST CAUSE PEOPLE ARE IN AND OUT OF THERE ALL DAY LONG PAYING FINES AND STUFF.
SO IT'S, IT NEEDS TO BE A USER-FRIENDLY TOP COURT, JUST LIKE WHAT WE HAVE EVERYWHERE ELSE ON THE COUNTY.
SO, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THAT WHATEVER HAPPENS IN THE FUTURE WITH THE SOUTH CAMPUS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THERE'S GOING TO BE REVENUE GENERATED THERE TOO, AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE DEALING WITH DEVELOPERS AND STUFF.
SO, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT OUT OF THE REALM OF POSSIBILITY THAT A DEVELOPER WILL BUILD A COUNTY BUILDING AS PART OF THE DEAL.
I MEAN, SO I MEAN, THAT'S JUST SOMETHING WE NEED TO DEAL WITH LATER ON DOWN THE LINE, BUT RIGHT NOW TO MAKE IT USER-FRIENDLY AND THE SPICE AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND THE JUDGES, THE USERS ARE HAPPY THE WAY WE HAVE IT SET UP RIGHT NOW.
SO AS LONG AS THE USERS ARE HAPPY, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE NEED TO BE SPEAKING.
I THINK, UM, ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE DONE WITH THE SOUTH CAMPUS AS FAR AS SELLING IT, UH, YOU KNOW, DEPENDS ON WHAT THIS, WHAT OUR REAL ESTATE CONSULTANT IN THE MASTER PLAN YIELDS, BUT, AND, AND THE SAME THING FOR THE COURTHOUSE, UH, FOR THE, FOR OUR, OUR COURTHOUSE HERE, YOU'RE TALKING THREE TO FIVE YEARS.
YOU'RE I MEAN, YOU'RE TALKING, YOU'RE TALKING WAY OUT TIMELINE.
WELL, I MEAN, THAT SEEMS WAY OUT TO ME.
SO, UM, IT'S HARD TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO REALLY PROJECT WHAT'S GOING TO, WHAT WERE THE SITUATION WILL BE IN THREE OR FOUR YEARS, RIGHT.
A LONG TIME WE NEED TO DEAL IN DIFFERENT DEALS.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST THE WAY THE GOVERNMENT IS.
SO WE'VE GOT H OKAY, WE'VE GOT FORUM, WE'VE GOT GALLAGHER TO KIND OF TALK YOU THROUGH WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, 18 MONTHS.
CAUSE WE'RE NOT CALLING IT A YEAR.
UM, ALSO MY BIGGEST QUESTION TODAY IS MOVING FORWARD, UH, BECAUSE IT WILL BE KIND OF FAST AND FURIOUS ONCE BIDDING DOCUMENTS GO OUT.
UM, WHAT TYPE OF UPDATES DO YOU WANT, UM, HOW FREQUENTLY DO YOU WANT THEM? LIKE HOW, HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU WANT TO BE UPDATED? WELL, I THINK IN THAT I SUGGESTED TO YOU THAT, THAT, UH, WE'VE EVER EVERY AGENDA, WE PUT IT ON THE COURT, WHETHER WE HAVE ANYTHING UP DATE OR NOT, WE JUST HAVE A LINE OF THEM FOR UPDATES OF THE, OF THE, UH, ONGOING PROGRESS OF THE JAIL AND THE ADOPTION CENTER.
I MEAN, THAT SEEMS TO MAKE SENSE.
AND THEN IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE, IT'S ALWAYS ON THERE.
AND SO IF WE NEED TO BE NOTIFIED OR IF WE NEED TO BE PROACTIVE ON CHANGING SOMETHING OR GETTING SOMETHING TO HELP THEM TO MOVE THIS PROCESS FASTER AND TO SAVE US MONEY RIGHT.
IN THE PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE UPDATES TOO.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A WIN-WIN FOR EVERYBODY.
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DON'T TELL AGREE.SO YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM HOK SINCE THEY'RE PLUGGED UP, YOU'VE GOT, WE'LL START WITH GALLAGHER ABOUT CONSTRUCTION.
I THINK WE OUGHT TO HAVE, I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE HOK COME AND JUST PREPARE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, PROBABLY NEED GALLAGHER UP HERE AT THE SAME TIME, BECAUSE I BET THEY'RE GOING TO BE SOME QUESTIONS.
SO Y'ALL MIGHT JUST WANT TO COME UP HERE AND SIT UP HERE AND ALL RIGHT.
UM, WELL THANK YOU, UH, GLAD TO BE HERE AT THIS POINT AND, UM, OUR CURRENT PARTY WITH HOK AND, UM, I'M GOING TO LET CARLOS DO MOST OF THE SPEAKING HERE, GOING THROUGH THE DESIGN AND EXPLAINING WE'RE AT AND EVERYTHING WE'VE GOT GOING, AND THEN WE CAN KIND OF FOLLOW UP WITH QUESTIONS.
UH, GIVE US A FEW MINUTES TO AT LEAST GIVE YOU A REF, A REFRESHMENT OF, UH, SEEING WHAT WE HAVE DONE TO THIS DATE.
YOU PROBABLY FAMILIAR ALREADY WITH WHAT WE'VE DONE SINCE WE PRESENTED IT, UH, A MONTH OR TWO AGO.
UM, BUT, UH, WE WE'VE BEEN MOVING FAST AND FURIOUS ON, ON THE DESIGN AND TRYING TO GET A BIT DOCUMENTS READY HERE PRETTY SOON.
SO I'LL START KIND OF JUST GIVING YOU THE, THE OVERALL IDEA OF WHERE THE EXISTING SITE IS.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO IS TO, TO ACCOMMODATE AND REALLY REARRANGE THAT PARKING.
SO IT REALLY ADDRESSES THE NEW COURTHOUSE, UH, THE NEW, UH, JUSTICE CENTER TO FIT WITHIN THAT PARKING AND, UH, ALLOWED FOR THE, THE EXISTING MIXED OF PUBLIC AND LAW ENFORCEMENT TO BE ALSO OREGON.
WE WERE ORGANIZED, AS YOU CAN SEE, ON, ON, ON THIS, UH, SITE PLAN.
UH, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT WE DID IS TO ACCOMMODATE THE LAW ENFORCEMENT VEHICLES TO REALLY GET INTO ONE SIDE.
AND THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE HERE ON THE FAR RIGHT, UH, WHERE THEY ALREADY HAVE THAT, UH, PARKING.
SO THEY ALL GET TOGETHER ON THAT LOCATION.
AND THEY'RE SECURE WITH, UH, UH, A FENCE IS NOT, IS NOT, PEOPLE CAN NOT NECESSARILY NOT BE ABLE TO GET IN, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY BECOMES A DETERRENT FOR ANYBODY ELSE TO REALLY GET INTO THAT AREA.
AND HE'S GOT HIS OWN CAR ACCESS TO, TO PROTECT PEOPLE FROM GOING THERE WHEN THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO, WITHIN THE CENTER PORTION OF THAT PARKING, WE HAVE, UM, THE MAIN PUBLIC AREA, UH, THAT WE HAVE ACCOMMODATED OTA ENOUGH PARKING FOR THAT IT'S GOING TO BE REQUIRED FOR THE NEW JUSTICE CENTER AND ALSO KIND OF CLOSE TO THE, THE LAW ENFORCEMENT, THE JAIL WE HAVE KEPT IN RESERVE A PARKING FOR, UH, VISITORS THAT ARE COMING INTO THE JAIL AND LOOKING TO THE RURAL SITE, A SITE PLAN, UH, TO THE FAR LEFT TO THE TOP, THAT LOCATION IS ABOUT 67 PARKING SPOTS FOR THE NEW STAFF THAT WILL BE DEDICATED TO, UH, WORK IN THE NEW JUSTICE CENTER.
AND THAT'S LIKE THE, THE, UH, THE SECURE PARKING, UH, IS THE ONE THAT IS LOCATED.
IT'S A SMALL LOCATION RIGHT ON THE BEHIND THE JUSTICE CENTER.
I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN SEE HERE WITH THE MOUSE, BUT, UH, THAT IS GOING TO BE DEDICATED FOR JUDGES SELECTED OFFICIALS.
SO THEY HAVE A PLACE TO COME INTO THE BUILDING IN A SECURE MANNER.
UM, LET'S SEE IF I HAVE AN KIND OF LARGE AND A LITTLE BIT MORE SO WE CAN GET, UH, WE'RE UTILIZING THE EXISTING ENTRANCES.
UH, THERE WAS NO NEED TO REALLY, UH, DO MUCH MODIFICATION THAT KEEPS US FROM, UH, SPENDING MORE MONEY, BUT WE DIDN'T NEED TO DO THAT.
UH, ALTHOUGH YOU WILL SEE HERE IN A MINUTE, A, UM, A, THE NEW MONUMENT SIGNED THAT IT HAS BEEN, UH, REDESIGNED.
WE WILL REPLACE THE EXISTING THAT IS KIND OF FALLING APART BY WE'LL WE'LL.
WE WILL HAVE IN A NEW ONE THAT HE ACTUALLY ADDRESSES.
THE WHOLE COMPLEX IS GOING TO BE LIGHT UP.
WE'LL HAVE A FLAX RIGHT OUT THERE.
SO IT REALLY GIVES IT A GOOD, A GOOD APPEARANCE.
UH, AS THE PEOPLE WERE PUBLIC IS COMING INTO THE, THE NEW, UM, NEW DEVELOPMENT.
UM, WE HAVE RESPECTED THE FIRE LANES THAT GO AROUND THE EXISTING LAW ENFORCEMENT.
AND SINCE, UH, THEY'RE SUPPORTING THAT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, UM, KIND OF CUT OFF BECAUSE OF NOW WE HAVE A CONNECTOR BETWEEN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE NEW, UM, UH, JUSTICE CENTER.
WE, WE JUST SIMPLY, UM, REROUTED THAT FAR LANE.
WE'VE BEEN TALKING WITH THE FIRE CHIEF AND EVEN FAR MARSHALL TO KEEP THEM ON THE LOOP AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THE, UM, THE PROPER ROUTING TO SERVE THE BUILDING.
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UH, THERE'S A COUPLE OF LOCATIONS WHERE WE REQUIRED TO REALLY BE UP CLOSE TO THE BUILDING, AND WE HAVE PROVIDED THOSE AREAS ON THE NORTH SIDE AND THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE NEW JUSTICE CENTER.AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S LABELED THERE AS FAR LANE.
NOW, THOSE ARE, UM, WE USE A SPECIAL PAPERS THAT ACTUALLY ALLOWED, UM, THEFT TO, TO GROW IN THERE.
SO THE APPEAL OF THE JUSTICE CENTER NOT HAVING CONCRETE RIGHT NEXT TO IT IS GOING TO BE GOOD BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE GRASS REALLY GROWING NEXT TO IT.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, HE'S DONE IN SUCH A WAY THAT TRUCKS, OUR TRUCKS ARE ABLE TO DRIVE NEARBY IN CASE EMERGENCY.
UH, AS I MENTIONED, UH, THE NEW GREAT FEATURE THAT IS GOING TO SERVE A VERY GOOD IS DOT CONNECTOR FOR INMATES TO BE, UM, WALK RIGHT FROM THE, UH, UH, FROM THE JAIL TO THE, TO THE NEW JUSTICE CENTER, UH, WITHOUT HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT THE SAFETY OF, UH, ANYBODY, THE, THE PUBLIC, EVEN THE STAFF AND THE, UM, AND THE DEPUTIES OR WHOEVER NEEDS TO TRANSMIT, MAKE THE TRANSFER.
SO IT'S DONE IN SUCH A WAY THAT IS AWAY FROM THE PUBLIC.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO ENCOUNTER AT ANY MOMENT.
UH, WE BRING THEM DOWN, UH, BELOW ON THE GROUND LEVEL, AND THERE'S A TRANSITIONAL HOLDING AIR RIGHT THERE THAT, YOU KNOW, IN CASE THAT WHEN WE HAVE THE TIMES WHERE THEY NEED TO GO UP TO THE DIFFERENT FLOORS, THEY ARE KEPT SAFE AND SECURED.
WE HAVE A DEDICATED ELEVATOR THAT WILL BRING HIM TO THE DEDICATED FLOOR THAT THEY NEED TO GO.
SO THAT'S A REALLY ONE OF THE MAIN AMENITIES TO HAVE IT NEAR, TO BELONG TO THE JAIL.
AND, AND, AND JUST TALKING TO BRIEFLY, UH, ABOUT SECURITY, UM, W UH, AS WE WERE DEVELOPING THIS SITE PLAN, UM, WE WANTED TO TAKE AN ACCOUNT THAT, UM, EVERYTHING IS CONTAINED, UM, THERE'S AREAS WHERE, UH, THERE'S SECURITY FENCING THAT WE NEEDED TO MODIFY TO ALLOW THIS WALKWAY TO WORK, AND WHICH HAS SIMPLY, UH, REROUTED THOSE AREAS, BUT WE KEPT THAT AREA, UH, SECURE.
SO, UH, THE WALKWAY IT'S SECURE AND A SINK IS ENCLOSED, BUT IT'S NOT, UM, UH, IT'S NOT IN AN INDOORS, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEND ON AIR CONDITIONING, BUT IT KEEPS THEM FROM THE ELEMENTS.
YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A ROOF, YOU HAVE A SECURE WALL THAT KEEPS THEM PRIVATE FROM THE PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO SEE IT.
SO NOBODY CAN TELL THAT SOMEBODY WALKING THROUGH THERE AND AT THE SAME TIME, IT KEEPS, UH, KEEPS THEM FROM THE ELEMENTS.
UM, BUT IT'S JUST A FRESH AIR THAT MAY WALK THROUGH IT.
SO IT'S NOT, UH, WE'RE NOT SPENDING ON ENERGY.
UH, UM, WE DO HAVE, UM, SECURITY GATES FOR, UH, THE STAFF PARKING AND ALSO FOR, OF COURSE, FOR THE, UH, FOR THE SECURE PARKING FOR THE JUDGES AND ELECTED OFFICIALS.
AND, UM, THERE IS, UH, THERE IS A SERIES OF NEW, UM, WAYFINDING SIGNS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THROUGHOUT, UM, THAT WILL GUIDE THE PUBLIC TO COME IN.
UH, AS I SAID, YOU WILL HAVE THE MONUMENT SIGN, AND THEN FROM THERE WILL BE A NEW SETS OF, UM, WAYFINDING.
SO PUBLICAN CLEARLY SEE WHERE THEY NEED TO GO FOR THE, UH, PET ADOPTION CENTER, OR IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO TO VISIT THE JAIL, OR DID THEY SEEM TO COME INTO THE JUSTICE CENTER.
SO THERE'LL BE CLEARLY GUIDE TO THOSE LOCATIONS.
UM, WE ARE REALLY LOOKING INTO LIGHTING UP THOSE SIGNS THROUGHOUT THAT WAY, UH, EVEN AT NIGHTTIME, UH, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT, UM, CLEARLY SEEN ALONG WITH, OF COURSE THE PARKING WILL BE WELL LID WITH NEW, UM, LIGHT POLES THROUGHOUT.
SO THIS AMPLE ALIVE TO SEE, UH, TO KEEP EVERYTHING SECURE.
WE HA WE DO HAVE, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE A GOOD LANDSCAPING THROUGHOUT, UM, BUT WE TRY TO KEEP IT IN A MINIMUM SO WE CAN STILL HAVE THOSE CAMERAS BE ABLE TO SEE, UH, WHERE WE NEED TO SEE, KEEP IT ALL SECURE.
WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF PLANTING NEXT TO THE BUILDING THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE AREAS THAT HIDDEN, UH, THERE'LL BE NUMEROUS CAMERAS THAT ARE ACTUALLY SPOTTING THE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THIS IS THE, THE, UH, THE CONCEPT OF, FOR THE MONUMENT SIGNED.
WE HAVE THE FLAGS, UH, THE TWO FLAGS, ONE FOR THE TEXAS AND ONE FOR THE UNITED STATES.
UH, AND THIS IS REALLY LOOKING AT RIGHT OFF THE ACCESS ROAD.
RIGHT AFTER THIS SIGN, THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THE OTHER LOCATIONS OR THE OTHER SIGNS THAT ACTUALLY WILL BE DIRECTING PEOPLE THROUGH THE, WHERE THEY NEED TO GO.
ALSO IS BEING TAUGHT, UH, WITH TX DOT ABOUT, UH, HAVING AN ADDITIONAL, UH, SIGN THAT IS PRIOR TO COMING TO THE JUSTICE CENTER, UH, THAT IS THE ACTUAL, UM, OFFICIAL, UH, SIGN FOR THEM THAT
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THEY ARE APPROACHING THE NEW BUILDING.IT JUST GIVES YOU, UH, AGAIN, UH, THAT LITTLE, THE LAND, UH, JUST TRYING TO GIVE YOU THE, THE, THIS, THE, THE MASSING AND THE DESIGN, OR WHERE, HOW IS IT RELATIVE TO THE, UH, LAW ENFORCEMENT? DO YOU SEE THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TO THE, TO THE RIDE? I MEAN, TO THE LEFT AND THEN THE, UM, SEND IT THREE STORIES, HIDE.
HOW MANY, HOW MANY ACTUAL NEW PARKING PLACES DOES IT VAN DO WE KNOW? I'M SORRY THAT AGAIN, HOW MANY, HOW MANY ADDITIONAL PARKING PLACES DOES IT ADD OVER? WHAT IS EXISTING NOW? UH, THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL, BUT 288 PARKING SPOTS.
UH, I THINK, UH, AT THE TOTAL AMOUNT COUNTING THE EXISTING, UH, AND NEW, UH, WE LOOK ABOUT 132 TOTAL, I'M TALKING ABOUT ALSO LAW ENFORCEMENT STAFF AND THEN NEW PARKING.
BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THAT WHEN YOU GO OUT THERE, SOMETIMES IT'S A FALL DOWN, YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST WONDERING HOW MANY ADDITIONAL, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT MANY OF YOUR MOVING AND THEN HOW MANY PEOPLE SHOWING UP.
SO IS IT APPROXIMATELY ABOUT 288 NEW SPOTS, RIGHT.
I JUST CURIOUS IF LOOKING AT IT, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THERE'S THAT MANY AS PO ON THERE, BUT I GUESS THERE IS, YOU KNOW, OKAY.
THEN WE ALSO HAD THOSE 12 PARKING SPOTS ON THE, FOR THE JUDGES.
WELL, I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THAT AND DON'T LET THE GENERAL PUBLIC OUT FRONT, SO, OKAY.
NOW, OF COURSE, THIS IS THE, THE, THE EXTERIOR FACADE.
THIS IS THE VERY DIGNIFIED BUILDING THAT, UM, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH.
UH, WE TRY TO MAINTAIN A REALLY FIVE BUILDING WHERE REALLY, AS YOU APPROACH, AND YOU HAVE, UH, THE MAIN ENTRANCE WITH GLASS THAT, UH, THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO REALLY INDICATE WHAT THE, UH, WHAT THE ENTRANCE IS.
UM, ONCE THEY PEOPLE APPROACH, THEY, THERE'S A SET OF STEPS.
ONE OF THE CHALLENGINGS, UH, ABOUT THIS SITE IS THAT IT'S, IT'S HA IT HAS A GRADUAL SLOPE, AND, UH, IT'S A THREE STORY BUILDING.
SO WE WERE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT THREE STORY, ANY BREAKS DOWN, UH, KIND OF TOWARDS THE CENTER.
SO WE'RE THAT PORTION THAT HE BREAKS.
THAT'S THE MAIN LOCATION WHERE A PUBLIC ARE GUIDED INTO IT.
AND IT'S VERY INTUITIVE AS PEOPLE ARE COMING IN, THEY SEE THE GLASS, THEY SEE THE COLUMNS, AND YOU CAN, THERE'S NO QUESTION.
WHERE DO YOU ENTERING AS YOU ARE APPROACHING THE BUILDING? THE GLASS IS TILTED, JUST A SLIGHTLY ANGLE THAT ALLOWS THE PUBLIC TO REALLY LOCATE WITH THAT ENTRANCE IS BEFORE THEY GET INTO THE Q AND A AREA, THE Q AND A IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU SEE IN THERE AS THE GLASS.
AND THAT ALLOWS US A LOT OF TRANSPARENCY AS SECURITY OFFICERS ARE THERE DOING THE SCREENING.
THEY CAN SEE WHAT'S GOING ON FROM, UH, PEOPLE ARE APPROACHING TO THE BUILDING BECAUSE PEOPLE THAT IS, THERE IS A LOT OF LIGHT GOING ON.
SO IT MAKES IT FEEL REALLY INVITING BY THE SAME TIME, VERY SAFE AND SECURE.
THIS IS, AGAIN, JUST A CLOSEUP OF, OF THAT IS, UH, OR THAT ENTRANCE KIND OF TOWARDS THE RIGHT OF THE, THAT YOU SEE THE TWO ENTRIES, WELL, TWO SETS OF DOORS, THE FIRST SET OF DOORS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE LEAD PEOPLE COMING INTO THE QUEUE AND AREA.
THE OTHER SET OF DOORS THAT YOU SEE TO THE FAR, RIGHT.
THAT IS THE EXITING, UH, VESTIBULE, WHICH IS DONE IN PURPOSE WHERE THE SECURE PAD IS TO COME INTO THIS CLEAN AREA.
AND AS PEOPLE ARE GETTING NOW, THEY DON'T HAVE TO CRUSH WITH THE, WITH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING IN.
SO WE HAVE THAT DEDICATED, EXITING A PATH.
THESE ARE JUST ADDITIONAL VIEWS, AS YOU CAN SEE THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE AS WOULD USE MOSTLY JUST STANDARD BRICK, UH, MASONRY.
AND WE JUST HAVE DONE SOME MOTIVES THAT YOU SEE ABOVE THE WINDOWS.
IT'S JUST JUICING, UH, SOLDIER COURSES THAT ALLOW US JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A PATTERN.
IT JUST KEEPS IT MORE DYNAMIC LOOK THROUGHOUT WITH, INSTEAD OF JUST HAVING A, JUST FULLY BRICK WALL AND THE USE OF WINDOWS WOULD USE KIND OF LIKE TWO PATTERNS, ONE A SINGLE, LIKE A TWO FOOT, OR LIKE A FOUR FOOT THROUGHOUT AND THEY'RE INTERCHANGEABLE.
SO WE HAVE KEPT A MINIMUM OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF WINDOWS.
SO WE ONLY USE TWO, BUT THE WAY WE DONE IT ON A, ON A RHYTHM, YOU GET ALLOWS TO THE VISION TO LOOK LIKE THERE'S MORE GOING ON.
IT'S JUST KIND OF WALKING YOU THROUGH.
UM, THE BACK OF THE BUILDING YOU CAN SEE ON THE FAR RIGHT DOWN IS THE KIND OF THE MESH THAT IS, UH, THAT ALLOWS
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THE POST IMAGES THAT ARE COMING IN FROM THE LAW ENFORCEMENT INTO THE NEW JUSTICE CENTER.THEN KIND OF GOING BACK TO THAT.
SO AS, AS WE'RE WALKING IN INTO THE INTERIORS, UM, JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A, A BRIEF, UH, LEGEND OF THE COLORS, THE YELLOW COLOR IS THE PUBLIC AREAS.
SO AS PEOPLE HAVE COME IN THROUGH THE SCREENING PROCESS, THOSE ARE THE AREAS, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S PRETTY MUCH AT THE FRONT, AND IT TOUCHES ALL THE OTHER COLORS WITH THE OTHER COLORS DEPENDENT, UH, REPRESENTED THE VIEW, THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.
SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO WALK THROUGH SMALLER CORRIDORS TO GET INTO THOSE DEPARTMENTS.
HE'S ACTUALLY REALLY ACCESSIBLE.
WE REALLY WORKED ON THIS PLAN TO MAKE IT REALLY EFFICIENT FOR THE SQUARE FOOTAGE.
WE HAD A REALLY GOOD CHALLENGE TRYING TO MAKE IT ALL FIT WITHIN IT.
AND, UM, BY SHARING SOME OF THOSE, UH, THOSE SPACES, UH, UH, FOR THE STAFF TO BE ABLE TO WALK FROM ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER OR B WE LOCATED THE RESTROOMS IN THE CENTER CORE, THE CENTER CORE REPRESENT MAINLY THE, THE VERTICAL CIRCULATION FOR BOTH THE PUBLIC AND FOR THE STAFF, ALSO THE RESTROOMS FOR THE PUBLIC AND THE STAFF, EXCEPT THAT SOME ARE ON THE, LET'S SAY ON THE PLANT NORTH OF THAT IS FOR ALL THE STAFF, WHICH IS COMBINED WITH THE, WHAT WE SEE HERE AS A PEACH COLOR, THE PEACH COLOR REPRESENTS THAT SECURE, UM, PATHWAYS FOR THE, UH, FOR THE STAFF TO WALK THROUGH.
AND THE, UH, UM, THE, THE, THE DARK YELLOW REPRESENTS, UH, STILL PUBLIC AREAS, BUT IT'S KIND OF REPRESENTS KIND OF SUPPORT AREAS THAT ARE GONNA HELP THE PUBLIC AS THEY'RE COMING IN.
SO IF I EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ON, ON THIS FLOOR REAL QUICK, UH, AS PEOPLE ARE WALKING IN THROUGH THE, THIS, THE, UH, THE SCREENING PROCESS HERE AT THE BOTTOM, THEY ENCOUNTER A LOCATION WHERE THEY EITHER GO TO THE RIGHT OR THE LEFT TO THE RIGHT, IS WHEN THEY'RE COMING TO SEE, UH, THE CLERKS, EITHER FOR COUNTY CLERKS, DISTRICT CLERKS, OR COLLECTIONS, IF THEY STAY RIGHT UP THE CENTER IS WHAT THE ELEVATORS WILL GUIDE THEM TO THE DIFFERENT FLOORS, OR IF THEY GO TO THE RIGHT, I'M SORRY TO THE LEFT.
DID I SAY THE LEFT DID LAST TIME? UM, THAT'S WHEN THEY GO TO THE COURTS, THIS, THIS LOCATION IS WHAT WE HAVE, UH, GIVEN THE, THE SPACE FOR THE LARGER COURSE, WHICH IS THE CEREMONIAL COURTROOM TO THE FAR LEFT.
AND IN THAT ALLOWANCE, THE, THE MAJORITY OF THE PUBLIC THAT ARE COMING IN OR MO MOST OF THE TRAFFIC IS RIGHT AT THAT ENTRY LEVEL WITHOUT HAVING TO GO TO THE ELEVATOR.
IF MIND, IF I JUST, UH, WALK A LITTLE BIT ON THE BACK WHERE, UH, THE STAFF CORRIDOR ON THE CORE SIDE, THE BLUE AREA REPRESENTS ALL THE SUPPORT SPACES FOR, UH, FOR THE COURTROOMS, WHICH WE HAVE ON THE DARKER BLUE IS THE JUDGES CHAMBERS, UH, WHICH HAS, HAS THE JUDGES OFFICE AND, UM, THE, UH, COURT REPORTER AND CORE COORDINATOR, AND, AND THOSE SUPPORT OFFICES THAT ARE REQUIRED PART OF THE PROGRAM TO THE FAR LEFT OF THAT.
THOSE ARE THE DELIBERATION, UM, THE JURY DELIBERATION CONFERENCE ROOMS, WHICH ARE LOCATED NEXT TO EACH OTHER.
THEY BOTH HAVE THEIR OWN RESTROOM.
AND THEY'RE REALLY QUICK ACCESS FROM, UH, FROM THE COURTROOMS IN THE CENTER BETWEEN THE TWO COURTROOMS. YOU HAVE THE, THE ORANGE PORTION AREA THERE.
THAT IS WHERE THE, UH, E-MAILS HOLDING AREAS ARE.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE THAT ORANGE DOESN'T MIX WITH ANYTHING ELSE, OTHER THAN THAT ELEVATOR, THE ELEVATORS HAD BROUGHT HIM INTO THAT FLOOR, AND THE SAME WAYS IS GOING TO DO IT ON THE OTHER FLOOR.
SO THERE'S NO INTERACTION FOR THE INMATES OR ANYBODY ELSE.
WE HAVE A, UM, A MAN OR A PERSON HOLDING AREA, UH, WHERE THEY AWAIT FOR THEIR SESSION.
UH, BUT ALSO THERE'S THREE, UM, INMATE VISIT LOCATIONS THERE.
SO THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE TO ACCOMMODATE WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF INTERACTION BETWEEN THE ATTORNEYS AND THE INMATES.
AND THERE WAS A LOT OF REQUIREMENT TRYING TO GIVE THEM SOME SPACE SO THAT THEY CAN, UH, NEGOTIATE OR TALK WITH THEM.
AND WE DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN INSIDE OF THE COURTROOM.
SO WE HAVE ALLOWED THOSE THREE SPACES, SO THAT CAN HAPPEN.
AND THAT'S IN ADDITION TO ADDITIONAL, UH, CONFERENCE ROOMS THAT WE HAVE OUTSIDE FOR OTHER KINDS OF MEETINGS DONE MAY NEED TO HAPPEN, UH, WITHIN THOSE SESSIONS.
BUT AT LEAST IT KEEPS THIS AREA SECURE EMAILS.
DON'T HAVE TO GET OUT OF THAT ORANGE AREA.
AND THERE ARE SPACES WHERE THE ATTORNEYS CAN SEE THEM WANT TO GO DOWN INTO THE LOWER LEVEL REAL QUICK.
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I'M GOING TO START WITH THE ORANGE LOCATION.THAT'S THE TRANSITIONAL HOLDING AREA WHERE INMATES ARE BEING BROUGHT IN.
THERE'S TWO MAIN, UH, GROUP HOLDINGS LOCATED THERE, AND THEN ONE SINGLE HOLDING AREA.
ALSO IN THAT LOCATION, THAT'S WHAT THEY GET THE ELEVATOR TO THE UPPER FLOORS, OR IF THEY KEEP GOING ONTO THE, ONTO THE, UH, FOR THE RIGHT OF THAT ORANGE AREA, WE HAVE PROVIDED TWO ADDITIONAL LOCATIONS FOR INMATE INMATE VISITATION.
THIS ALLOWS FOR A PUBLIC DEFENDER BE ABLE TO COME AND SEE THEM AT THAT LOCATION FOR EITHER BEFORE THE SESSION OR AFTER THE SESSION.
SO THIS ALLOWS, UH, A PRETTY, PRETTY CONSTANT, UH, LOCATIONS WHERE THEY CAN BE ABLE TO TALK TO THEM AND, AND DISCUSS ANY BUSINESS THAT HAD TO DO WITH, UH, WITH THE PROCESS, THE BLUE AREA, UH, THAT YOU SEE HERE IS THE GRAND JURY.
AND EVEN THOUGH, UH, IT'S POSSIBLE THAT EMAIL MAKE CALM OR MAY NOT, IT APPEARS THAT IN THIS COUNTY STILL, IT, THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
WE STILL HAVE KEPT IT IN, IN SUCH A LOCATION WHERE INMATES CAN BE BROUGHT IN THERE IN CASE THAT IS NEEDED IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
MAIN DEPARTMENTS ARE LOCATED ON THIS FLOOR, ARE THE PUBLIC DEFENDER AND THE, UM, ADULT PROBATION.
AND THEN WHAT YOU SEE ON THE FAR RIGHT OF THE PLAN, UM, AS THE GRAY PORTION IN LIGHTLY PURPLE, THOSE ARE THE HIGH, UM, ARCHIVES AREA, UM, WHICH HAS CONSOLIDATED ALL THE LOCATIONS.
AND THAT RIGHT NOW THE COUNTY HAS ON THE ANNEX AND DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE, OF THE COUNTY.
UM, SO WHAT SOLUTIONS WAS ABLE TO ACCOUNT FOR THE SPACE AND BY USING HIGH DENSITY THAT REALLY COMPRESSES THE SPACES THAT IS NEEDED.
SO IT'S ALL ACCESSIBLE FROM THE SAME BUILDING, GOING TO THE SECOND LEVEL.
UH, IT'S NOT MUCH DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE SAW EARLIER ON THE ENTRY LEVEL.
THE COURTROOMS ARE TO THE FAR LEFT, THE SAME LAYOUT IS DONE.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE BY KEEPING THE SAME LAYOUT, IT REALLY SAVES, UH, MONEY BY KEEPING OLD STACKING, EVEN FOR THE RESTAURANTS, FOR THE STAFF OR THE PUBLIC, EVERYTHING STACKS UP.
AND, UH, ALSO KEEPS THE COURTROOMS, UM, VERY IDENTICAL FOR THE MOST PART.
SO THAT KEEPS IT FLEXIBLE IF IT NEEDS TO CHANGE, IF JP NEEDS TO COME BACK, THEIR SPACE ALLOWED FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.
UM, SO WE, THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY WANTED TO KEEP IT, SO IT SAVES MONEY IN THE SAME TIME.
IT KEEPS IT FLEXIBLE FOR THE COUNTY TO THE FAR LEFT.
UH, WE HAVE A DISTRICT, UH, DISTRICT ATTORNEY OFFICES.
AND AGAIN, ALL THE YELLOW AREA IS AS TO INDICATE WHERE THE PUBLIC INTERACTS.
AGAIN, IT'S JUST STAYS ON THE BOTTOM SIDE OF THE PLAN.
HE GOES, AS FAR AS IT NEEDS TO GO.
ONCE YOU GO BEYOND DYES TO A SECURE AREA, THEIR LEVEL IS THAT THERE'S A REPEAT OF THE SAME, UM, OR PLAN AGAIN, ALLOWING THE TWO ADDITIONAL COURTROOMS WHERE IN THIS CASE WE HAVE ALLOWED THE ONE ON THE FAR LEFT TO BE THE, UM, YOU KNOW, JURY QUALIFICATIONS.
THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE THE SEATING SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHERS.
WHAT'D YOU SEE HERE ON THE FAR, RIGHT? IT'S JUST A ROOF TO LOWER LEVEL.
THIS JUST GIVES YOU A SENSE OF THAT APPEAL OF THAT ENTRANCE.
LOTS OF LIGHTS PEOPLE ARE COMING IN.
UH, IT'S A LOT OF TRANSPARENCY.
THIS GIVES YOU THE FEEL OF THAT CORRIDOR.
AS YOU WALK INTO THE COURTROOMS. UH, WE HAVE WAYFINDING WITH SIGNS THROUGHOUT, AND WE HAVE VERY SOFT LIGHT THAT REALLY MAKES THE SPACE TO FEEL, UH, VERY PLEASANT, MODERN, AND WITHOUT SPENDING TOO MUCH MONEY ON IT.
IT REALLY MAKES IT REALLY FEEL THAT NEW, A NEW, A NEW SPACE FOR THE PUBLIC.
AND AGAIN, THE, THE, THE COURTROOMS THEMSELVES, UH, WE HAVE VERY SOFT LIGHT, IT KEEPS IT PRETTY LIGHT, AND IT KEEPS A REALLY NEW APPEAL THROUGHOUT WHAT YOU SEE KIND OF ON THE BACK.
THIS IS THE ENTRY TO THE COURTROOM.
UH, WE HAVE, UH, ACOUSTIC PANELS ON THE WALLS, SO ALLOWS ALSO FOR THE SOUND TO BE CONCENTRATED WHERE WE NEED TO AND NOT HAVE THAT RIVER RATION.
SO WE ONLY KEPT THE, WHERE WE REALLY NEEDED IT.
AND THAT, THAT KEEPS THE, THE SOUND, THE ACOUSTICS TO WORK REALLY GOOD INSIDE THE COURTROOM.
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IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON WHAT WE'VE SEEN SO FAR.SO ALL THE POOL ROOMS ARE IDENTICAL, RIGHT? PRETTY MUCH THE JUDGE'S BENCH AND THE LAYOUT OF THE WELL IS PRETTY IDENTICAL.
UM, THE CEREMONIAL COURTROOM IS SLIGHTLY WIDER THAT ALLOWS THE ADDITIONAL SEATING ON THE BACK.
UM, BUT THE OTHER ONES ARE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME.
GOOD I'LL MAKE US, YOU JUST DON'T WANT, I KNOW I'M JUST SPEAKING FROM A MYSELF.
WE DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH SOMEONE WILLING TO MOVE BECAUSE THEY'D BEEN ELECTED TWICE AND THIS COURTROOM IS SPECIAL, RIGHT.
WE JUST MAKE THEM ALL AS A SIGN.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT DRAMA THAT WE DON'T NEED PEOPLE THAT FOLLOW US DONATE IT, BUT THAT UNDERSTAND, WE DID HAVE THE DISCUSSIONS WITH, UH, WITH THE JUDGES NOT TOO LONG AGO ABOUT, UH, THERE WAS SOME NEEDED ON SOME OF THE SMALLER COURTROOMS AND ONE REQUIRED, MAYBE A COUPLE OF, UH, LIKE ANOTHER ROAD OF SEATING.
AND ANOTHER ONE REALLY REQUIRED KIND OF LIKE MORE LIKE TWO.
SO WHEN WE REALLY LOOKED AT IT, BY THE TIME WE WERE DOING THE MODIFICATION, WE NEEDED TO GET, UH, WE NEEDED TO SACRIFICE WHAT WE CALL THE SOUND LUCK, WHICH WE CAN USE ALL THE MEANS TO, UH, TO, TO MAKE THAT THE, THE LACK OF THE SOUND LUCK WE CAN USE IT ON THE DOOR.
BUT ANYWAY, WHAT WE DID IS THAT, UM, WE GO AHEAD AND MAKE THEM ALL PRETTY MUCH THE SAME FOR THE SEATING.
THAT WAY HE KEEPS THEM ALL THROUGHOUT THE SCHOOL.
IF ANY OTHER QUESTIONS I WOULD LIKE TO HAND IT OVER TO KURT TO TALK TO SCHEDULE OR, OKAY, THANK YOU, CARLOS.
UM, SO, UH, THAT'S PRETTY SIMPLE.
I THINK IT WAS EXPLAINED REALLY WELL.
UM, YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD, AS CARLOS MENTIONED, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, SO WE'RE PREPARING THE BID PACKAGE, UH, THAT WE CAN GIVE TO GALLAGHER CONSTRUCTION.
SO THEY CAN THEN IN TURN, YOU KNOW, GO THROUGH THEIR BID PROCESS.
SO, UH, DECEMBER 11TH IS OUR DATE FOR COMPLETING THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS.
THAT'S ALSO WHEN WE PLAN TO SUBMIT GALLAGHER TO GALLAGHER THE BID PACKAGES.
AND THEN ALSO WHEN WE PLAN TO SUBMIT A PACKAGE TO THE CITY OF KAUFFMAN FOR BUILDING PERMITTING REVIEW, UM, AND THAT PROCESS USUALLY TAKES, YOU KNOW, A MONTH AND A HALF, TWO MONTHS OR SO.
UM, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT THEY FIND DURING REVIEW PROCESS, THEN WE WILL INCORPORATE THAT INTO THE FINAL DOCUMENTS.
AND OF COURSE, COORDINATE THAT WITH GALLAGHER AT THAT POINT IN TIME.
UH, IF THERE WERE ANY CHANGES, I DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY AT THIS POINT, BUT THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH, IT'S A PROCESS.
UH, WE ALSO WILL HAVE, UH, THE TEXAS ACCESSIBILITY, UM, A REVIEW OF THE FINAL DOCUMENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MEETING ALL THE ADA REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO DESIGN TO, UH, WE'LL ALSO BE DOING A FINAL REVIEW WITH THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON JAIL STANDARDS, UH, TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE STILL ON BOARD WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THE DESIGN FOR THE COURT BUILDING.
SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE FINAL STEPS THAT WE'LL BE DOING, UM, UH, IN, YOU KNOW, DECEMBER AND MAYBE EARLY JANUARY.
UM, AND THEN, UM, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE, THIS, THE REST OF THE DESIGN SCHEDULE.
THEN WE MOVE INTO CONSTRUCTION AND, AND LANCE CAN, CAN TALK ABOUT, ABOUT THAT.
UH, FIRST THE BEDTIME KURT SAID, WE PLAN ON GETTING DOCUMENTS AROUND DECEMBER 11TH FOR BOTH PROJECTS.
UM, AND AT THAT TIME IT USUALLY TAKES US ABOUT A WEEK, UM, PER PROJECT TO PREPARE OUR BID PACKAGE.
UH, IN THIS CASE, WE'LL BE WORKING ON TWO WITH THE, UH, PET ADOPTION CENTER AS WELL.
SO WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE ABOUT TWO WEEKS TO PREPARE THAT OUR INITIAL INTENT WAS TO HOPEFULLY GET IT OUT BEFORE CHRISTMAS, AT LEAST GET IT ON THE STREET.
UM, I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE HARD DATES YET AS WE GET THE DOCUMENTS IN HAND, I'LL DEFINE ALL THESE, AND I'LL, I'LL GIVE YOU FARM DATES, BUT THIS IS KIND OF WHAT WE'RE WE'RE PLANNING.
UM, SO IF WE DON'T GET IT OUT THAT WEEK OF CHRISTMAS, FIRST OF THAT WEEK, WE DO PLAN TO GET IT OUT ON THE STREET.
THE FOLLOWING, UM, ANTICIPATED BID DATE WILL PROBABLY BE THE 1ST OF FEBRUARY, UH, GIVE US FOUR WEEKS GOOD, FOUR WEEKS, MAYBE FIVE WEEKS WITH THE CHRISTMAS IN JANUARY HOLIDAYS IN THERE.
UM, AND THEN BRINGING TO THE COURT SOMETIME THE MIDDLE OF FEBRUARY, UH, FOR APPROVAL.
SO, UH, TYPICALLY AFTER IT BIDS, WE'LL TAKE, UM, MAYBE A WEEK TO 10 DAYS TO DO OUR SCOPE REVIEW, UM, MAKE SURE ALL THE TRADES ARE, ARE GOOD, HAVE COMPLETE SCOPES, AND THEN WE'LL BRING THAT, UM, FOR YOUR REVIEW AND APPROVAL.
SO, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT TIMELINE? A LITTLE ABOUT WHAT THE, THE ASPIRATIONS ARE FOR CONTRACTORS WORKING ON BOTH PROJECTS AT THE SAME TIME, AND THEN YEAH.
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AND I THINK GOOD FOR, FOR THE COUNTY DEFINITELY IS THAT WE'VE GOT THESE TWO PROJECTS GOING AT ONE TIME.I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET A LOT BETTER COMPETITIVE EDGE FROM THE CONTRACTORS AS YOU KNOW, THE ECONOMY OUT THERE.
SO THEY'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.
WE'VE TALKED TO A LOT OF THESE, UH, SUBS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, UH, KEEP THEM ABREAST OF, OF THE JOB COMING OUT.
THEY'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.
I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A GREAT ADVANTAGE, PROBABLY MORE SO THAN THE ADOPTION CENTER WITH, UH, DOING THE JUSTICE CENTER AND IN THESE TOGETHER.
SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT ADVANTAGE, GREAT VANTAGE FOR THE PROJECT.
WELL, WE'LL BET ON TOGETHER, BUT WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THEM SEPARATE COST PERSPECTIVE.
SO YOU CAN SEE WE'VE GOT A BID FORM WHERE WE'VE GOT THEM BROKEN OUT SEPARATELY, SO YOU CAN SEE THE COST AND WHERE EVERYTHING IS BETWEEN THE TWO PROJECTS.
SO IN ALL LIKELIHOOD, THE, WHOEVER THE CONTRACTOR IS DOING, THE SITE WORK, HE'S GOING TO BE DOING THE SITE WORK OR ONE BUILDING.
MAYBE BOTH OF THEM THAT'S AREN'T YES, YES.
WE'RE AREN'T 10 IS TO BUILD THESE SIMULTANEOUSLY COUNT UP, BUT WHOEVER WE AWARD FOR THE DART WORK OR UTILITIES, OR HOW MANY PS, THOSE WOULD BE THE SAME CONTRACTORS FOR THE ANIMAL SHELTERS.
WE'LL HAVE TO DO ALL THAT MOVING THEM OR, OR I THINK IT'S GREAT.
I'M SURE YOU'RE STATIC TO SEE IT WORK OUT THAT WAY.
I THINK IT'S THE SAME KIND OF PROCEEDINGS AND MONEY THAT YEAH.
WHAT'S THE, UH, IS THERE ANY, HAS THERE BEEN ANY DISCUSSION OR CONSIDERATION? I KNOW AT ONE POINT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, UH, TRYING TO BUILD ANOTHER ACCESS ROAD OFF OF 34, HAS THAT AT ALL BEEN AT LEAST BROACHED TO IN CASE THERE IS SOME, IT HAS BEEN, UH, UH, THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO THINGS THAT, UH, ARE THAT, THAT OUR TRANSPORTATION CONSULTANT IS WORKING ON.
ONE OF THEM IS TO, UM, GET THE DESIGN DONE FOR THE FLYOVER, WHICH WOULD BE ONE 75 WOULD BE GOING UP OVER THAT, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT DRIVE IS THAT ONE STATEMENT FIVE WOULD BE GOING OVER THAT, UH, THAT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF THESE, UM, FAITH-BASED ENGINEERING PROJECTS, I THINK WHERE, UH, UH, HE'S GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR THE MONEY TO BUILD IT, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, GO AHEAD AND GET THE DESIGN DONE.
SO THAT'S THAT'S, AND I DON'T HAVE A TIMEFRAME ON THAT.
AND THE OTHER ONE IS A PROJECT THAT THE CITY, UH, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT COMMISSIONER HUNCH BEEN INVOLVED IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS WHERE THE CITY HAS THIS IDEA, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT ALL THAT EDC PROPERTY THERE, UH, ON THE, ON THE CAMP SIDE OF OUR PROPERTY, UM, THAT PROPERTY, THAT EDC PROPERTY REALLY NEEDS SOME OTHER ACCESS TO IT.
AND SO I, SO THAT'S GOT POSSIBILITIES, UH, OF MAYBE ATTRACTING SOME RTC MONEY BECAUSE IT COULD POTENTIALLY CONNECT 34 TO ONE 75.
AND THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF PROJECTS THAT THE RTC IS.
IT WON'T BE ANY TEXTBOOK TECHSTOP MONEY BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A TEXTILE ROAD, BUT IF WE CAN, SO HE'S WORKING ON IT AND ALL I CAN TELL YOU, UM, THINGS HAVE BEEN PRETTY SLOW OVER THERE WITH, UH, THEY'RE NOT DOING ANY MEETINGS OR ANYTHING, AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, HE WORKS BETTER IN PERSON.
I MEAN, THERE'S THAT, UH, THERE'S THAT GREAT SEPARATION FLY OVER? IS THAT A VIABLE CONCEPT? I MEAN, IT'S PRETTY DARN CLOSE TO THE, I DON'T KNOW THE BRIDGE, THE 34 BYPASS BRIDGE.
I MEAN, UH, AND THE LOCATION OF THAT FLY OVER COULD BE, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE OVER FARE ROAD, MAYBE.
AND WHAT ABOUT THE EXTENSION OF THE FRONTAGE ROAD? WHAT WE'RE THAT THAT'S PART OF THE SAME, THAT'S PART OF THE SAME CON DEPENDS ON WHERE YOU, WHERE YOU PUT THE FILE OVER AND WHAT THE CROSSOVERS ARE.
SO HE'S, THAT'S ALL HE'S WORKING ON ALL THAT, BUT I JUST DON'T HAVE A TIMEFRAME, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S REALLY HARD TO REALLY HARD TO PIN THEM DOWN WHEN THE MIGHT HAPPEN.
MIKE, IS THERE ANY PROGRESS WITH THE CITY ON, UH, ON INTERIOR ROAD COMING ON 34 THAT WOULD BE RUN BASICALLY RUN LIKE KIND OF BEHIND THE JAIL BUILDING, RIGHT? WAS THAT A MONTHS AGO OR SO, BUT ANYWAY, WHATEVER, IT'S BEEN A LONG, LONG TIME AGO, WHENEVER WE WERE AT, WHEN WE STARTED THE ZOOM STUFF.
SO IT'S SOMETIME SINCE MARCH, THEN IT WAS JUST BROUGHT UP AND DISCUSSED OPTIONS, BUT THAT'S THE LAST TIME I HEARD OF IT, TMP ACTUALLY DID A COFFIN IS THEY'VE DONE A SCHEMATIC ON THAT AS TO WHERE IT WOULD GO.
I MEAN, THERE WAS JUST A CONVERSATION ABOUT, AND THAT'S THE LAST TIME I HEARD ABOUT ANYTHING ABOUT ALL THE STUFF AROUND THE BUILDING.
SO WHAT WOULD YOU, EVERYTHING WOULD BE? I THINK IF THE EDC GOT SOMETHING GOING ON, THOSE PROPERTIES RIGHT THERE, THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'RE GONNA NEED
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TO HAVE ANOTHER FOR ONE THING THAT THAT PROPERTY IS TOO BIG TO NOT HAVE ROAD A ROAD DIVIDING IT SO THAT IF THEY CAN GET A PROJECT ON THAT, THAT WOULD, THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO INFORM THEM, YOU KNOW, AND THEY SHOULD KNOW, BUT THERE'S TWO ROADS OUT THERE THAT I PUT ON THE BOND PACKAGE BECAUSE OF NEW GROWTH WAS GOING THAT WAY IN KAUFFMAN FOR THE FUTURE.SO, UH, BUT AGAIN, I, YOU KNOW, AFTER OUR, SINCE OUR FIRST KIND OF THOUGHT THOUGHTS THROWN OUT THERE, THAT'S THE LAST I'VE HEARD OF IT.
SO I GUESS I, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE PURSUING IT, I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT IT OTHER THAN WHAT WE LEARNED TODAY.
IT JUST OCCURRED TO ME THAT IF, IF THERE IS ANY MOVEMENT ON IT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD AT LEAST WANT THE ARCHITECTS TO KNOW THAT THERE MIGHT BE THE POTENTIAL FOR AN ENTRANCE OFF OF THAT, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS REALLY AT THE, AT THE BACK OF ALL THAT PARKING THEY'VE SEEN THE SKETCH OF THAT TMP DID.
UM, BUT THEY JUST HAVE MANY MOVING ON IT.
AND SOME OF THAT IS GOING TO BE, I DON'T KNOW HOW, I DON'T KNOW THE COFFEE.
I DON'T, I DON'T, I HAVEN'T TALKED TO COMPLIMENT THEM ABOUT WHAT THEIR IDEA ABOUT DOING ABOUT EXECUTING THAT PLAN.
BUT IF THEY SELL IT THAT EDC PROPERTY COMES INTO PLAY, I THINK THAT'LL CHANGE EVERYTHING.
THAT'LL GET, THAT'LL MAKE IT START MOVING.
AND, AND THIS MIGHT BE KIND OF IN THE WEEDS, CAUSE I KNOW YOU TALKED ABOUT FURNITURE, BUT, UH, HAVE ALL THE PLANS FOR THINGS LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC DEFENDERS, DILATORS AND FIRE EXTINGUISHERS OR WHATEVER IT IS, ALL OF THAT PART OF THIS, UH, AT LEAST THE, THE PLANNING FOR FURNITURE AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, INTERIOR FINISH IS THAT BEEN DISCUSSED.
WE'D BEEN WORKING ON FURNITURE PLANS FOR THE BUILDING, FOR THE COURT BUILDING.
UH, AND SO, UH, WE ARE, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF MEETINGS WITH THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AT THIS POINT, SHOWING THE TYPE OF FURNITURE BEEN GIVEN THEM SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT IT WILL BE.
AND SO THAT'S ALL BEING LAID OUT.
UM, WE, YOU KNOW, HAVE, THERE'S KIND OF A LITTLE, A SMALL, SEPARATE POT OF MONEY FOR THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, DEFIBRILLATORS OR ELECTRONIC.
UH, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S, IF THERE'S A COFFEE MAKER, FOR INSTANCE, IN THE JURY DELIBERATION ROOM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD BE SEPARATE FROM THE FURNITURE PACKAGE.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, SO WE, WE HAVE LOCATED THINGS LIKE THAT ON THE COUNTERS AND THINGS SO THAT WE GET POWER AND DATA TO THE RIGHT PLACES.
READY? THIS IS OUR CONNECTIONS FOR HTMI LIKE UPSTAIRS.
I DIDN'T, WE'VE GOT TWO GUYS BACK HERE.
YOU'LL BE SEEING A LOT OF, ONCE YOU GO AHEAD AND INTRODUCE HIM, OR SHE'S GOING TO SET UP, SORRY, ONCE YOU'RE GETTING SET UP, YOU KNOW THAT JASON THOR AND, UH, GREG BLASTING, HE, THESE TWO FACES WHO YOU'LL SEE, WE'VE GOT A SUPERINTENDENTS.
THEY'RE ALL TIED UP ON ANOTHER PROJECT RIGHT NOW, BUT JUST THE PROJECT MANAGER IS THAT JASON IS KIND OF OUR, UH, HE'S OVERSEEING A LOT OF OUR FORNEY WORK.
YOU'LL BE KIND OF AN OVERSEER WITH GREG BEING THE DAY TO DAY PM.
THAT'LL BE ON SITE WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT.
SO WHAT, YOU'LL SEE BOTH OF THOSE GUYS QUITE A BIT.
ALL THANKS FOR HAVING ME BACK AGAIN.
UM, LAST WAS IT IN OCTOBER WHEN WE MET BEFORE WE KIND OF WENT OVER JUST ALL THE BASICS ON THE ANIMAL SHELTER, WHERE WE WERE TO DATE ON THAT WITH ACTUAL FLOOR PLANS.
AND WHAT I BROUGHT YOU TODAY WAS JUST AN UPDATED, UH, ELEVATIONS RENDERINGS OF THE PROJECT.
OVER THE MEETING WE HAD LAST WEEK, WE MET WITH OUR KAUFMAN COUNTY TEAM TO GO OVER ALL THE EXTERIOR FINISHES ALL THE INTERIOR FINISHES, JUST TO GET SOME LOT OF GOOD FEEDBACK.
AND THEN DOING THAT WITH ALL THESE TEAM MEETINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING.
WE'VE BEEN GETTING A LOT OF QUICK RESPONSES TO BE ABLE TO GET US UP TO THIS DECEMBER, THE 11TH DATE FOR RF BID PERMIT SUBMITTAL PACKAGE.
SO CURRENTLY OUR FACILITY IS STILL AT THE, AT 13,900 SQUARE FEET.
WE ARE STILL GOING TO BE ABLE TO HOUSE 66 DOGS ALONG WITH 30 OR 62 CATS.
UM, WE DO HAVE ALL OF OUR INDOOR OUTDOOR ADOPTION AREAS GET TO KNOW AREAS AND ALL OF OUR STAINLESS STEEL CAGES, EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE HAVE.
UM, SOME OF THE FINISHES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST WEEK WERE ALL OF OUR VERY DURABLE FINISHES THAT IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THIS FACILITY OUT TO ABOUT A 50 YEAR FACILITY.
SO VERY LITTLE UP RENOVATIONS OR
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UPDATES ON MATERIALS WILL BE NEEDED WITH THIS FACILITY.SO THIS IS OUR CURRENT EXTERIOR RENDERING THAT WE HAVE HERE.
AND WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS A FACILITY THAT IS GOT A TIE INTO THE NEW JUSTICE CENTER.
SO WE HAVE VERY SIMILAR MATERIALS, SIMILAR BRICK THAT WE HAVE ON HERE, BUT YOU DO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A POP OF COLOR TO MAKE THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE INVITING TO THE PUBLIC WHEN WE'RE UPFRONT.
WE'RE RIGHT ALONG THE FRONTAGE ROAD, RIGHT THERE BY ICE I, OR ONE 75.
SO YOU SEE A LOT OF GLASS, A LOT OF TRANSPARENCY.
SO YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHERE TO COME ONCE YOU ENTER INTO THE SITE.
UM, THIS IS JUST ANOTHER, UH, ELEVATION THAT WE HAVE WHERE YOU SEE SOME OF THE ADOPTION SIGNS AGAIN, TO MAKE THIS VERY WELCOMING FRIENDLY, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE IT FROM ONE 75, THE PET ADOPTION CENTER SIGN THERE'LL BE, IT WILL BE WELL LIT THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT WITH A POP OF COLOR WITHIN, UM, A LOT OF OUR INTERIOR FINISHES.
AGAIN, WE WANTED TO MAKE IT VERY DURABLE, BUT YET WELCOMING TO THE PUBLIC.
SO YOU SEE A LOT OF, UH, A LOT OF NATURE COMING INTO THE SPACE, BUT WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS ON THE BACK WALL, THE RECEPTION COUNTER IS, UH, A VINYL.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE A REAL, UH, LIKE A LIVING WALL, BUT AS VINYL THERE, WE HAVE THE CAT ADOPTION CENTER OFF TO YOUR LEFT, JUST WITH SOME FUN INVITING GRAPHICS, THE MAIL, THE, JUST THE OVERALL GRAPHICS ON THAT.
AND A LOT OF JUST BRIGHT COLORS THROUGHOUT VERY DURABLE FINISHES ON THE FLOOR AND WELL LIT.
AND THIS IS JUST ANOTHER ENTRY THAT WE HAVE COMING INTO OUR LOBBY AREA.
I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE, SO WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU GUYS, IF Y'ALL HAD ANY QUESTIONS, WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER THOSE, UM, SCHEDULE WISE.
AGAIN, WE ARE ON THE DECEMBER 11TH DEADLINE, SO WE WILL MEET THAT WITHOUT ANY PROBLEMS. OKAY.
UM, AND I, AND I WISH DAVID WAS HERE TO HEAR THIS.
ALSO, THEY, BECAUSE OF IT, IT TOOK US A WHILE TO GET GOING ON THIS PROJECT.
AND SO I THINK THIS PROJECT PROBABLY STARTED OFF FOUR WEEKS BEHIND ABOUT, AND, UH, THEY'VE DONE A WONDERFUL JOB AT CATCHING UP.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'VE BEEN A LOT OF, THERE'VE BEEN A LOT OF CHANGES AS WE WENT ALONG AND THEY'VE JUST DONE.
UH, THEY'VE JUST DONE A REALLY GREAT JOB.
THEY REALLY WORKED HARD TO, THEY UNDERSTOOD HOW IMPORTANT IT WAS FOR US TO BE BUILDING THESE PROJECTS AT THE SAME TIME, BIDDING THE HARDWARE AND THE FURNITURE AND DOING ALL THAT STUFF AT THE SAME TIME.
SO THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH, KIM, THE JUDGE, AND IT ALSO HELPS WORKING WITH THE HUMANE SOCIETY TO HAPPEN, THEIR KNOWLEDGE ON HERE WITH US, US DOING OTHER ANIMALS, SHELTERS, BUT THEM AS WELL BECOMING DISMANTLED TO JUMP STRAIGHT IN AND START TALKING ABOUT THE EFFICIENCY OF THE PROJECT.
IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, THANK YOU.
Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS JUST TO ADD, MISS MIGHT JUST BE FOR YOU, JUDGE.
WHAT, UH, HOW ARE WE, OR HOW ARE WE LOOKING ON OUR ALLOTTED BUDGETS? W WELL, WE DON'T, WE WON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT UNTIL, UH, UH, I GUESS THE END OF DECEMBER WHEN WE GET ALL OF OUR BIDDING BACK WILL, THAT'LL BE THE END OF END OF JANUARY 1ST.
UM, DECEMBER ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK NOBODY REALLY HAS A GOOD GRASP ON ALL OF THIS, A LOT OF OPTIMISM, BUT NOBODY HAS A REALLY GOOD GRASP ON HOW MUCH WE'RE GOING TO BE SAVING, UH, PARTICULARLY ON THE ANIMAL ON THE PET ADOPTION CENTER, BECAUSE, UH, EVERY BOOK YOU'RE GOING TO BE A LOT OF PEOPLE REALLY INTERESTED IN BIDDING ON THAT JUSTICE CENTER.
AND SO, UM, JUST TO REFRESH A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT, THE WAY I THINK I SEE THINGS HAPPENING IS WE'LL GET SOLID NUMBERS ON THE JUSTICE, CLEARLY THE DISTRICT CENTER AND THE PET ADOPTION CENTER, OR THE, THE TWO LEADING PROJECTS FOR US.
SO WE GET THE SAME TIME WE'RE GOING TO GET THE DOLLAR SOLID BID PRICING ON BOTH OF THOSE TWO PROJECTS.
WE HAVE $50 MILLION IN THE BOND PROGRAM.
SO MY THINKING IS THAT THE THIRD PROJECT IS TO, IN A LOT OF THIS IS GOING TO BE BASED ON WHAT WE DECIDE TO DO WHAT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT HAS DECIDED TO DO, BUT WE NEED TO, WE, I THINK WE SHOULD GO NEXT TO THE, PROVIDING A FACILITY FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT TO ALLOW HIM TO LOCATE SOME OF HIS ASSETS UP IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY THAT I THINK WOULD BE THE THIRD PROJECT.
THE FOURTH PART OF THAT PROJECT
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IS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH OUR SUB COURTHOUSES IN, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST GOT TO ALL BE ABOUT MONEY, REALLY.UH, IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE LEFT IN RESERVE.
AND THEN WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO MAKE A START AT TO IT'S THE FOURTH.
IT'S GOING TO BE THE HARDEST PROJECT, AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LONG TIME, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SET ASIDE SOME OF THIS MONEY IS GOING TO BE SET ASIDE FOR FIGURING OUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TO UPDATE THE COURTHOUSE, YOU KNOW, BRING IN SOME, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'D BE ABLE TO REDO EVERYTHING OR WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO START WITH THE ADA STUFF AND THE ELECTRICAL, YOU KNOW, GET RID OF SOME OF THE CONDUIT THAT'S RUNNING ALL OVER THAT BUILDING.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION.
IT'S REALLY SORT OF A OPEN BOOK RIGHT NOW UNTIL WE GET THIS UNTIL WE GET SOLID NUMBERS.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY SENSE IN REALLY MAKING ANY PLANS UNTIL WE GET THESE NUMBERS BACK.
IT'S A NUMBER OF BAGS THEN I GUESS WE CAN PUT MOTION ON WHATEVER WE DECIDE THAT WE WANT TO, THEN WE CAN, CAN, WE JUST WE'LL HAVE TO SET THAT PRIORITIES.
YOU HAVE TO SET THE PRIORITY BETWEEN THOSE THREE REMAINING THINGS.
RIGHT? I THINK IT'S, UH, AND I AGREE WITH YOU A HUNDRED PERCENT.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT JUST TO REMEMBER THAT, UH, WHILE WE'RE SPENDING THIS BOND MONEY IN THE OUT YEARS, WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO END UP SAVING QUITE A BIT OF OPERATIONAL MONEY FROM, FROM PRISONER TRANSPORTATION ISSUES, UH, TO CONTRACTS FOR ANIMAL SERVICES NOW.
SO, SO THEY'RE, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME PLUSES THAT, UH, WILL ACCRUE WHEN, WHEN THESE PROJECTS DO COME TO FRUITION AND LET'S NOT FORGET TOO, THAT OUR, OUR, OUR GOAL HAS ALWAYS BEEN THAT THIS WOULD BE A REGIONAL FACILITY WITH BUY-IN FROM SOME OF THE CITIES AND OTHERS, PERHAPS DEVELOPERS.
UM, BUT WE HAVEN'T REALLY, I MEAN, THEY'RE ALL THEY ALL KNOW ABOUT IT.
I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALL WATCHING, BUT WE, WE REALLY CAN'T GO TO THE CITY OF MAY BANK AND SAY, WE WANT YOU TO JOIN US WITH THIS IN, IN THE CAPITAL COST AND OR THE OPERATING COSTS.
BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, HOW MUCH IS IT? WELL, WE DON'T REALLY KNOW YET.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE CITY MANAGER IS NOT GOING TO TAKE THAT TO HIS COUNCIL WITHOUT SOLID INFORMATION.
SO WE JUST, AGAIN, WE JUST HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL WE GET SALT.
WE WE'VE GOT SOME PRETTY GOOD IDEAS FROM THE WORK WE'VE DONE WITH KIM, THE WORK WE DO WITH THE HUMANE SOCIETY AND THE RESEARCH THAT WE DID A YEAR AGO ON OPERATING COSTS.
I MEAN, WE'VE GOT A PRETTY GOOD GRASP, I THINK, ON WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST TO OPERATE.
AND HE MADE, SOCIETY'S GOING TO BE THERE A BIG HELP IN THAT.
CAUSE THEY, THEY RUN FOUR OR FIVE OF THESE OPERATIONS NOW.
MY FAVORITE THING TO DO IN LIFE IS WAIT FOR IT, THE MILITARY.
ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY.
[2. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider exiting special meeting and enter into executive session.]
PURSUANT TO SECTION FIVE, FIVE ONE.WELL, I MEAN, I GUESS I'D LIKE A MOTION TO ENTER INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
I'LL MAKE THAT WE HAD A MOTION ON CHRISTOPHER PHILLIPS.
IS THERE A SECOND SORT OF SAME COMMISSIONER BARBARA DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES PURSUANT TO SECTION
[3. Executive Session; Pursuant to Section 551.072 of the Texas Government Code, the Commissioners Court will meet in closed session to discuss potential options regarding county real property.]
FIVE, FIVE, 1.072 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT WILL MEET IN CLOSED SESSION TO DISCUSS POTENTIAL OPTIONS REGARDING COUNTY REAL PROPERTY.
SO WE ARE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR COMING.
YOU SEE YOU GUYS, UH, I'LL TAKE CARE.
[4. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider exiting executive session and enter back Into special meeting.]
UH, WE ARE BACK, UH, I NEED A MOTION TO EXIT LEAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION AND GO BACK INTO, INTO OUR SPECIAL MEETING A MAKE-UP MOTIONS FOR THE MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.THOSE OPPOSED? NO MOTION CARRIES ITEM FIVE, DISCUSSED.
CONSIDER ANY ACTION TAKEN AS A RESULT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION.
WE DID NOT TAKE ACTION IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
[6. Adjourn Meeting]
UH, MIKE, A MOTION TO ADJOURN THIS, MAYBE WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.SECOND, SECOND COMMISSION, BARBER DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR.