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ALL RIGHT.

THIS REGULAR

[Call to Order]

MEETING OF THE KAUFMAN COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURTS CALLED THE ORDER.

IT'S TUESDAY, JANUARY 12TH, 2021 IS OUR FIRST MEETING OF THE YEAR.

ISN'T IT? YEAH.

UH, IT'S 9:00 AM.

WE'RE IN THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING ROOM IN THE COURTHOUSE ANNEX.

THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS TODAY IS WE'RE GOING TO START OFF AS WE WOULD NORMALLY DO WITH A, AN INVOCATION, UH, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, UH, I THINK WANTS TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGES TO THE FLAGS, BUT COMMISSIONER CATES HAS A GUEST TO INTRODUCE FOR US TO, UH, REGARDING THE INVOCATION.

SO WHY DON'T YOU STAND IT? WELL, GO AHEAD WITH YOUR INTRODUCTION FIRST AND THEN WE'LL STAND.

THANK YOU, JUDGE.

UH, SO I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE, UH, DONALD, ONCE YOU STAND, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE PASTOR DON KYLE, UH, DONNA'S UH, THE CHAPLAIN FOR THE KEMP VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT AND, AND, UH, WE ARE CONSIDERING TRYING TO ESTABLISH THAT SORT OF FUNCTION, UH, FOR, UH, UH, EXIGENT NEEDS OF THE COUNTY.

SO, UH, I'VE INVITED DON TO COME THIS MORNING AND GIVE OUR INVOCATION.

SO IF YOU'D ALL TO RISE WITH US WHILE DON LEE, JUST IN PRAYER, PASTOR, DO YOU MIND DELIVERING YOUR INVOCATION FROM THE PODIUM MARY INTO THAT MICROPHONE SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN HEAR IT? OKAY.

OKAY.

WELL, FATHER, WE THANK YOU LORD FOR SUCH A BLESSED DAY THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US TODAY.

WE ASK THAT YOU LEAD AND JUST LEAD THIS COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICES, DECISIONS TO BE MADE.

FATHER.

WE PRAY OVER OUR COUNTY.

WE ASK THAT YOU KEEP US SAFE AND OUT OF TROUBLE AND OUT OF WORRY FOR YOU, FATHER, FATHER, WE KNOW ALL THIS CHAOS IS GOING, BUT FATHER, WE KNOW THAT YOU'RE IN CONTROL.

SO FATHER, WE SURRENDER ALL WE HAVE UNTO YOU AND WE LAID IT TO FULL LACROSSE.

AND LORD, WE ASK ALL THIS IN THE WONDERFUL NAME OF JESUS CHRIST.

AMEN.

THANK YOU.

YOUR DOG.

IT IS WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

ONE STATE UNDER GOD ONE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IT IS.

AT THIS POINT IN THE MEETING, WE NORMALLY WOULD HAVE REMARKS VISITORS.

I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS OR ANYTHING.

SO APPARENTLY WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY WITH US THIS TODAY THAT LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COURT

[1. ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.]

ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS TO DISCUSS, UM, GENERALLY JUST SORT OF A GENERAL UPDATE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON.

I KNOW IN, IN, UH, THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND IN MY OFFICE, PROBABLY MANY OTHER PERMISSIONS TOO, WE'VE JUST BEEN, UM, REALLY, UH, FLOODED WITH CALLS FROM PEOPLE INQUIRING ABOUT VACCINATIONS.

SO, UM, THE CURRENT SITUATION ON MADDIE IS I THINK A LOT OF IS JUST FED BY THE FACT THAT THEY READ ABOUT VACCINATION PROGRAMS GOING ON IN DALLAS COUNTY.

AND, UH, THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT DALLAS COUNTY HAS A HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND THEY RECEIVE DALLAS COUNTY RECEIVES THEIR VACCINATIONS DIRECT FROM THE STATE, UH, COFFIN COUNTY AND CON COUNTIES, LIKE MOST COUNTIES THAT DON'T HAVE A HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

AND WE RELY ON THE STATE TO BE OUR HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

AND WE ARE NOT A, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WHO'S GOING TO RECEIVE, WHICH OF OUR PROVIDERS ARE GOING TO RECEIVE VACCINATIONS.

AND WHEN THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, WE'RE NOT PART OF THAT DECISION PROCESS, UH, THAT THAT'S JUST KIND OF THE WAY THINGS ARE.

AND, UH, MAYBE YOU CAN JUST SHARE THAT WITH PEOPLE AS YOU ENCOUNTER THEM AND JUST TELL THEM THAT THOSE VACCINATIONS ARE GOING DIRECTLY TO OUR PROVIDERS IN THE COUNTY, WHICH I THINK WE'RE UP TO SEVEN APPROVED PROVIDERS RIGHT NOW.

AND, UH, WE JUST DON'T HAVE ANY, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OR INPUT ON WHEN THOSE VACCINES ARRIVE AND HOW MANY THEY GET.

SO JUST TO ELABORATE ON THAT, I ASKED YOU THE OTHER DAY ABOUT OUR, OUR OFFICERS AND OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT.

YES, SIR.

WAS THE COUNTY.

YES, SIR.

IS THERE A WAY THAT Y'ALL CAN PUT PRESSURE ON THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DO FOLLOW THE GUIDELINES THAT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR FIRST STEP ARE THEY SENDING THIS TO PRIVATE ENTITIES TO MAKE DECISIONS? IT GOES DIRECTLY TO THE PROVIDERS, WHICH WOULD BE LIKE A, IN OUR CASE, IT'S BROOKSHIRE'S WALGREENS, KROGER, AND THEN A COUPLE OF DOCTORS, CVS.

THEY, UH, ONCE THOSE VACCINES LAND AT THOSE PLACES, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW THE RECOMMENDATION OF D S H S, WHICH IS THE, THE PHASING, YOU KNOW, BUT, UH, I'M TOLD THAT ONE OF THOSE, ONE OF THE PHARMACIES NATIONAL, THEIR, THEIR CORPORATE POLICY IS THEY JUST GIVE THEM, THEY JUST, THEIR JOB IS JUST TO GET THE INJECTIONS TO WHOEVER COMES OR WHOEVER THEY GET ON THE LIST.

THEY'RE NOT

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FOLLOWING THE PHASING.

SO WE DON'T, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY INFLUENCE OVER THEM.

THAT'S UP TO THEM.

SO WE CAN'T LET GO DOWN THERE AND RAISE CANE.

WELL, WE TRIED THAT WITH THE ONE PHARMACY, BUT THEY TOLD THEM, WE WERE TOLD THAT IF WE HAD A, WE DIDN'T LIKE WHAT THEY WERE DOING AND WE NEEDED TO TALK TO THEIR CORPORATE OFFICE.

SO WE DIDN'T DO THAT.

SO, NO, I DON'T THINK WE DO.

I WILL TELL YOU, THERE ARE THINGS IN THE WORKS THAT MAYBE WILL MAKE THIS BETTER, BUT, UH, IT'S UH, OR WE'RE IN EARLY STAGES.

SO ANYWAY, BUT I KNOW THAT THAT, LIKE MY HEALTH GROUP, TEXAS HEALTH GROUP SENT ME A TEXT AND TOLD ME TO GET WITH THE COMMISSIONERS IN THE COUNTY JUDGE.

AND WE'D, WE WOULD DIRECT THEM ON THE, ON WHEN YOU WERE GOING TO GET YOUR BAGS.

I SAID, I CALLED THEM.

I SAID, HEY, WAIT A MINUTE.

YOU KNOW? SO, UH, AND I THINK THEY GET A LITTLE CONFUSED THERE SALE BECAUSE IT COMES OUT OF ROCKWALL, TEXAS.

AND SO IT, IT, WE JUST DON'T HAVE REAL GOOD CONTROL OVER IT.

SOME SITUATION LIKE THAT STATE HAS THE STATE IS ACTIVATED THIS, THESE WHAT THEY CALL HUBS CENTERS, WHICH ARE VACCINATION CENTERS.

UH, THEY'RE DOING THAT THROUGH IN OUR AREA.

THEY'RE DOING THAT THROUGH THE DALLAS COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT, BUT THOSE CENTERS ARE LIKE THE CLOSEST ONE TO US, I THINK IS THE ONE AT FAIR PARK.

AND, AND YOU CA UH, CITIZENS CAN GO ONLINE.

YOU CAN GO TO THE DSHS WEBSITE AND NAVIGATE YOURSELF TO THE DALLAS COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT IN KAUFMAN COUNTY RESIDENTS CAN GO AND GET ON THE LIST AND GO THERE AND GET VACCINATIONS.

PARDON TO THEM WHEN YOU SHOW UP, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO, EVEN THOUGH THEY TELL YOU NOT TO COME GET IN LINE, THEY'RE STILL GOING TO GIVE YOU THE SHOT.

THEY MAY BE IN LINE.

THAT'S WHAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE BECAUSE THEY, THEY, UH, UH, I SAID, I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY DON'T MAKE TWO LINES.

ONE THAT, OR PEOPLE DOES SHOW UP AND PEOPLE WITH THEIR TIME SLOTS, BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO THROW THEM AWAY AT THE END OF THE DAY.

BASICALLY, IF THEY GET THEM OUT OF THE FREEZER AND DO THAT, THEN THEY DON'T WANT TO DISREGARD ANY OF THE VACCINES.

SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TURN ANYBODY AWAY.

THAT'S WHAT THEIR COUNTY HEALTH CAT SAID ON TV.

THE OTHER THAN THAT, I'M JUST REPEATING WHAT HE SAID.

AND, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF, I DON'T KNOW, JUST, UH, IT'S IT IS CONFUSING.

SO IT IS VERY CONFUSING.

IT'S, IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME TO GET IT STRAIGHT, BUT I'M SURE IT WILL BE WITHIN THE MONTH.

IT'LL MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE.

OKAY.

MOVING ON A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS, UH, UPDATE ON EVERGREEN, THAT IS OUR WAGE AND CLASSIFICATION STUDY.

WE ARE EXPECTING TO GET A, UH, A DRAFT REPORT FROM THEM.

IS THAT RIGHT, JERRY, THIS WEEK, UH, W THAT'S COMING THIS WEEK, PROBABLY JUST IN THE NEXT DAY OR TWO.

SO WE'LL BE, THE COMMISSIONERS WILL BE HAVING A CHANCE TO REVIEW THAT MAYBE AT OUR NEXT MEETING.

AND THEN, UH, SOME INTERESTING DEVELOPMENTS ON OUR FIVE-YEAR PLAN.

UH, OF COURSE Y'ALL KNOW THAT THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE HAS GOT US LINED UP WITH A ORGANIZATION CALLED OPENGOV, WHICH PURCHASED STW.

AND WE RECEIVED THE DATA FROM, UM, FROM THE VG YOUNG INSTITUTE.

UH, YOU REMEMBER REBECCA DUNSON WHO WAS WORKING ON THAT PROGRAM WITH US, THEY'VE COLLECTED ALL THE DATA, BUT IT WASN'T IN A VERY GOOD FORMAT FOR A REPORT FOR A FIVE TO REALLY, FOR VERY GOOD REPORTING.

SO, UH, WHAT'S REALLY GOING TO WORK OUT WELL WITH THIS IS THAT WHEN THEY GET THROUGH, WHEN, WHEN, UH, WHEN, UH, OPENGOV GETS FINISHED ESTABLISHING THE FOUNDATION, WHICH IS BASICALLY THIS JUST, UH, ACCOUNT NUMBERS AND CHART OF ACCOUNTS, WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO USE OPENGOV PLUG ALL THE DATA THAT WE GOT FROM VG YOUNG, INTO THE FIVE-YEAR PLAN AND PRODUCE WHAT WE THINK IS GOING TO BE SOME REALLY GREAT, UH, REPORT FOR US TO USE, NOT JUST FOR THIS FIVE-YEAR PLAN, BUT EVERY, EVERY YEAR AFTER THIS.

SO KIND OF, UH, THE CONVERGENCE OF THAT DATA COMING FROM VG YOUNG WITH OPENGOV COMING ONLINE IS GOING TO BE REALLY GREAT.

AND THANKS AGAIN, KAREN, FOR FACILITATING ALL THAT, I KNOW THAT HAVING PEOPLE MESSING WITH YOUR CHART OF ACCOUNTS IS LOW IRRITATING, BUT, UH, OKAY.

I, I D ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY CORRESPONDENCE? ALL RIGHT, THEN, UH,

[2. CONSENT AGENDA]

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

WE HAVE ITEMS A THROUGH E IS THERE ANYTHING ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT COMMISSIONERS WOULD LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT IN PARTICULAR, OR IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED?

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I THINK WE'RE PRETTY GOOD.

SO I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER FELLOWS MOVES TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER BARBARA DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING I WAS SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT MOTION CARRIES ITEM THREE,

[3. Karen Badgley; Discuss/Consider Petition Requesting Reappointment of Directors for Kaufman County Levee Improvement District No. 6 and Order approving said petition.]

KAREN BADGLEY DISCUSSED CONSIDER PETITION REQUESTING REAPPOINTMENT OF DIRECTORS FOR KAUFMAN COUNTY LEVEE IMPROVEMENT, DISTRICT NUMBER SIX, AND AN ORDER APPROVING PETITION.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE AN ATTORNEY FOR LID NUMBER SIX HERE TODAY.

OKAY.

WHAT IS YOUR NAME, SIR? MR. SMITH? UM, WELL, WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TO THE COURT IS, UM, AN ATTORNEY ON BEHALF OF BRAGS SMITH AND LIBBY IMPROVEMENT.

DISTRICT NUMBER SIX HAS PRESENTED A PETITION REQUESTING REAPPOINTMENT OF DIRECTORS FOR LIT IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT NUMBER SIX.

AND BY APPOINTING THESE DIRECTORS THAT WOULD TAKE THIS OUT OF AN INACTIVE LID DISTRICT AND PLACE IT BACK INTO AN ACTIVE LID DISTRICT AND WHERE THERE WOULD BE MEETINGS AND THEY WOULD CONTINUE ON ACTIVE AND THE, UM, PERSONS THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING BE APPOINTED IS, UM, MR. BRAGG SMITH, DAVE FERGUSON, AND ED FARROW.

SO, UM, THAT IS BEING PRESENTED TO THE COURT TODAY FOR, TO APPROVE AN ORDER REAPPOINTING DIRECTORS FOR LEVEE IMPROVEMENT, DISTRICT NUMBER SIX, OTHER QUESTIONS, UH, YEAH, I'D JUST LIKE TO, COULD YOU, COULD YOU, UH, MAYBE IF YOU'D COME UP AND TALK TO US JUST A MINUTE, COULD YOU JUST GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF THE BACKGROUND AND QUALIFICATIONS OF THE PEOPLE THAT, THAT ARE BEING RECOMMENDED, TAKE THIS OFF OR LEAVE IT ON? THEY CAN TAKE IT OFF.

OKAY.

UM, YES, WE'VE, UH, THERE DAVE FERGUSON AND, AND PHARAOH, AND I HAVE BEEN LONG TIME AND EXISTING, UH, CURRENT LEVY DISTRICT SUPERVISORS.

UM, WE'RE ALL INVOLVED WITH THE RANCH OUT THERE IN THE LEVEE DISTRICT AND HAVE BEEN FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

WE'VE ALREADY GOT THE BONDS IN PLACE AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT YOU KNOW HAS BEEN REQUIRED OVER THE YEARS.

SO IT'S REALLY JUST A CONTINUATION OF THAT.

WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE FUNDING SITUATION OUT THERE? IS THERE A BANK ACCOUNT FOR THIS LEVY DISTRICT? NO, IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN, UH, WE HAVE NOT COLLECTED ANY KIND OF FUNDS OR DISPERSITY FUNDS, SO IT'S BEEN CLASSIFIED AS WHAT WE CALL DORMANT.

WE STU WE'VE ALWAYS FILED AN AFFIDAVIT WITH THE STATE EVERY YEAR AS COMPLIANCE.

SO WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE, UM, THE STATE, THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT NEEDS TO BE REQUIRED TO, YOU KNOW, TO STILL HAVE A, A DISTRICT.

AND, AND WHAT PROMPTED YOU REACTIVATING 11 DAYS? A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN THE LEVY BROKE, WE HAD A LEVY BREACH ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE FLOOD UP THERE, I GUESS ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO, AND WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS.

SO WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE.

AND SO WHEN IT BREAKS, THEY COME OUT AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S, THAT WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

IF YOU'RE IN COMPLIANCE, STILL PAY 80% OF THE FUNDS.

AND THEN THE DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO PAY 20%.

AND SO OUR UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE KAUFMAN COUNTY HAS SOME FUNDS THAT CAN, UH, BE REIMBURSING THE DISTRICT, SO TO SPEAK.

UH, IF WE GO AND GET ACTIVE AND GET A BANK ACCOUNT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE GOING NOW, UH, IN, IN STEVE, UM, WHO HE HAS BEEN HELPING OUT WITH US OVER THE LAST YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, TRYING TO NAVIGATE THROUGH THIS HERE.

CAN YOU SPEAK TO THOSE FUNDS? I'M LOOKING RIGHT NOW, THERE'S APPROXIMATELY ALMOST $70,000.

OKAY.

SO THAT JUST EXPLAINS THE RATIONALE BEHIND TRYING TO, TO, UH, YOU KNOW, REACTIVATE THIS AND GET, GET CURRENT IN ALL THESE THINGS.

THE ONLY THING THEY'RE ADDING TO IT EVERY MONTH IS THE INTEREST OF THE KIDS.

WE INVESTED CHRIS, DAN.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THE ONLY OTHER COMMENT I WOULD HAVE IS, UM, I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW LONG THE TERMS CAN BE APPOINTED.

I WANNA THINK IT'S UP TO FOUR YEARS, BUT WHATEVER THE MAXIMUM LENGTH OF TIME THAT WE COULD BE APPOINTED WOULD HELP US ON OUR END.

SO WE DON'T HAVE TO REINVENT THE WHEEL TOO OFTEN.

I DON'T KNOW, BECAUSE EVERY FOUR YEARS IT SAYS FOUR YEARS ON THE ORDER.

YEAH, YEAH.

YES, IT IS.

THAT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT'D BE ON HER REQUEST IS TO DO THAT.

SO WE DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK TOO OFTEN.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, UH, WOULD THERE

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BE A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE THE ORDER, APPROVING THEIR PETITION? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION THAT'S WRITTEN JET, UH, WOULD THAT MOTION WILL COMMISSIONER CATES, IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, WILL COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE WAS POSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

UM, NEXT

[4. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider bond issuance.]

UP, DISCUSS, CONSIDER BOND ISSUANCE.

UH, WE'VE GOT TWO CONTRIBUTORS TO THIS DISCUSSION.

UH, UH, WE HAVE GEORGE WILLIFORD WITH HILLTOP, AND THEN, UH, WE HAVE, UH, JOHN WITH ITS, UH, JOHN, I GUESS, WHY DON'T YOU START OFF AND TELL US WHAT YOUR RESEARCH AND DISCUSSIONS HAVE LED TO, AND THEN, UH, WE'LL LET GEORGE UP WITH KIND OF THE NUTS AND BOLTS THANK YOU.

YEAH.

OKAY.

MY NAME IS JOHN POLLSTER WITH INNOVATIVE TRANSPORTATION SOLUTIONS.

AND I'M YOUR A ROAD CONSULTANT PERSON? I DON'T KNOW.

UH, SO WHAT'D YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS, UH, THE BOND PROGRAM WAS THE PROJECTS THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE VOTERS IN 2019, THE TWO FAR RIGHT COLUMNS ARE THE ISSUANCES.

THE FIRST ISSUE ONCE, UH, YOU SEE WAS SEAN FOR HISTORICAL PURPOSES, WHAT WE SUBMITTED PROJECT ON AND WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION.

I HOPE THAT I GOT RIGHT.

EVERYBODY IS IN THEIR LAST CALL AND FOR SECOND ISSUANCE AND WE CAN JUST RUN DOWN EACH ONE OF THEM PRETTY QUICK.

I THINK, UM, IN THE COUNTY JUDGES, UH, ON SYSTEM PROJECTS, WE'VE GOT SOME THINGS WORKING WITH, UH, TXDOT AND KOG ON SOME IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY'RE OFFERING TO HELP US MAKE, UH, RELATED TO, UM, A PARTNERSHIP ON THE OUTER LOOP.

AND SO WE NEED TO START WORKING ON SOME OF THAT, THAT ENGINEERING ON THE ONE 75 PROJECT.

AND SO I'M RECOMMENDING THAT WE ISSUE THAT $3 MILLION OF THAT FOR THAT PROJECT, THE REMAINDER OF THE 1641, UM, ISSUE.

AND IT'S BECAUSE I'M HOLDING A REQUEST FROM TEXTILE FOR THE 10% RIGHT AWAY ON 1641, AND IT'S A LITTLE OVER A MILLION BUCKS.

SO WE HAVEN'T USED ANY OF THAT FIRST ISSUANCE.

SO I'M JUST ROUNDING IT ALL OUT.

THAT'S RIGHT.

IT'S AN ODD NUMBER, UH, TO HAVE IT SO WE CAN COME BACK AND SPEND IT ON IT, HOPEFULLY ON THAT AFA WITH TEXTILE, FOR THE RIGHT AWAY, AND THEN GOING FORWARD FOR THE OTHER FOUR COMMISSIONERS.

WHAT, WHAT I TRIED TO DO AFTER TALKING TO THEM WAS GIVE THEM AS MUCH FLEXIBILITY AS POSSIBLE AS THEY MOVE FORWARD ON WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.

AND SO ESSENTIALLY I JUST TOOK THEIR, UH, ALL THEIR COUNTY ROAD FUNDING UNDER PAYMENT, SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS AND DEDUCTED WHAT WE ISSUED THE FIRST YEAR OR FIRST ISSUANCE AND PUT THE BALANCE OVER IS A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE SECOND ISSUANCE.

SO THOSE, UH, THOSE ARE JUST ROLLOVERS OF THAT TOTAL AFTER THE TWO ISSUANCES FOR PRECINCT ONE, ALL $11 MILLION WILL BE ISSUED AND AVAILABLE FOR USE.

IF YOU ROLL TO THE NEXT PAGE, IT'S THE SAME WITH COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, UH, HIS, HIS, HIS LINE ADD IT'S VERY TOP, WE'D ISSUED 1 MILLION LAST TIME AND RECOMMENDING THE REBALANCE OF THAT ALONG WITH WORKING WITH TXDOT IN THE INTERIM TO START THE ADVANCED PLANNING ON FM SEVEN 40 IN THE 40 AREA IT'S, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS AND THE COMMUNITY'S GOT SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THAT INTERSECTION.

SO WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND START DOING THE ADVANCED PLANNING ON IT, AND THEN ISSUING THE REMAINING BALANCE OF COMMISSIONER BARBERS, UH, COUNTY ROAD FUNDS.

AND THEN YOU SHOWING YOUR BALANCE OF COMMISSIONER CAKE'S BOND FUNDS, PLUS STARTING THE, UH, ADVANCED PLANNING ON THE, UH, ONE 75 18 TWO IN THE CAMP, THE, UH, CROSS

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STREET FOR THE INTERCHANGE FOR THE MAIN LANE.

SO, UH, THAT THAT'LL JUST START BE ADVANCED PLANNING ON IT.

SO THAT TOTAL, FOR THAT SECOND ISSUE IN RECOMMENDATION, ASSUMING I GOT EVERYBODY'S THOUGHTS, RIGHT, IS, UH, JUST A LITTLE OVER 25 MILLION.

AND, UH, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND THAT WAS, UH, IN THE BALLPARK OF WHAT WE THINK WE CAN ISSUE IN THAT IMPACT THE TAX RATE, BUT I'LL LET GEORGE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

WELL, KAREN, I KNOW THAT THAT'S, I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE, WITH THE PROJECTS AND STUFF.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR JOHN? IS THAT ALL HOPEFULLY UP TO SPEED WITH WHAT Y'ALL EXPECT IF I DO I'M IN TROUBLE? OKAY.

THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD WAS WHENEVER I WAS TRYING TO WORK WITH THE 2013 BOND PACKAGE, OH, THE 20TH, AND THEN THE 2019 FIRST ISSUANCE, IT TOOK ME THREE TIMES AGAIN AND SIT IN THE RIGHT DOCUMENT AT ALL IN ABOUT EIGHT MINUTES DETAILS, DETAILS.

RIGHT.

IT'S ALL IN THE DETAILS.

AND THE ONLY REASON I CAUGHT IT WAS MY EMPLOYER TO DO THAT TO ME, NOT AS CALMLY AS YOU DID.

YES.

COVID BRAIN.

RIGHT.

IS THAT, IS THAT STILL GOING TO BE USING THAT UNTIL I CAN'T? UH, OKAY.

THANK YOU, JOHN.

UH, DON'T RUN OFF.

WE MIGHT HAVE MORE QUESTIONS.

UH, MR. WILLIFORD, HE'S GOING TO GIVE US THE BIG PICTURE.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU, SIR, FOR THE RECORD, UH, GEORGE WILFORD WITH HILLTOP SECURITIES AND, UH, WHAT, UH, PASSED OUT IS REALLY VERY SUCCINCT THAT SINGLE PAGE, UH, TIES VERY CLOSELY TO WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, AT THE DECEMBER EIGHT MEETING AND SO ON.

AND, UH, LIKE JOHN SAID, UH, UH, THE, IT CORRELATES TO WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT, UH, AS FAR AS THE POTENTIAL REMAINING AMOUNT TO BE ISSUED FOR THE ROADS, UH, FOR THIS, UH, UH, 2021 ISSUE.

UH, EVERYTHING ON WHAT I HANDED OUT IS REALLY, UH, COMBINED.

IT ASSUMES THAT THERE'S BE A 30 MILLION ISSUED FOR FACILITIES, THE, THE REMAINING AMOUNT THAT WAS AUTHORIZED FOR THE FACILITIES, THEN ANYTHING ABOVE THAT WOULD BE THE ROAD.

SO, UH, STARTING ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE AGAIN, YOU'LL SEE WHERE IT SAYS MODEL AFTER 2020, UH, ISSUANCE THAT WAS AFTER LAST YEAR'S ISSUE, UH, KIND OF UPDATING EVERYTHING.

UH, AND OF COURSE THIS PRESUMED, UH, ISSUANCE, UH, MIAMI LAKE FOR THE, UH, ROADS, UH, ALL THE WAY UP THROUGH 2028.

AND, UH, UH, BASED ON THAT, IT SHOWED THAT THE PROJECTED TAX RATE FOR NEXT YEAR, UH, WITH ISSUANCE WOULD BE 7.70 CENTS IN TOTAL FOR DEBT SERVICE, UH, AND SO ON.

AND I WENT AHEAD AND INCLUDED THE 30 AND 40 MILLION SINCE WE HAD SHOWN YOU THAT IN, UH, DECEMBER, BUT ALSO DIDN'T BOWL THAT, AND IT WAS THERE JUST FOR A RECOLLECTION, BUT IF YOU MOVE OVER TO WHERE IT SAYS 50 MILLION, THAT WOULD BE A 30 MILLION FOR OUR FACILITIES, 20 MILLION FOR ROAD PURPOSES, UH, IT DOES ACCELERATE EVERYTHING SO THAT, UM, INSTEAD OF THE PROGRAM EXTENDING OUT THROUGH 20, 28, NOW IT COULD, UH, YOU KNOW, EXTEND THROUGH 2024 AND ALL OF THE ISSUANCE BE DONE WITHIN THAT TIMEFRAME.

AND, UH, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE PROJECTED TAX RATE BASED ON VALUE ASSUMPTIONS AND ALL FOR NEXT YEAR WOULD BE ABOUT SEVEN, RIGHT UNDER 7.30 CENTS.

SO STILL BELOW WHAT WE MODELED LAST YEAR, THEN IF YOU MOVE JUST TO THAT, YOU DIDN'T SEE THIS.

WHEN I WAS HERE IN DECEMBER, I HAD NOT RUN THE 60 MILLION, WHICH WOULD BE 30 FOR FACILITIES, 30 FOR ROADS, BUT YOU CAN SEE IF WE DID THAT, UH, THE, UH, UH, PROJECTED TAX RATE FOR NEXT YEAR WILL BE 7.57 CENTS.

AGAIN, STILL WITHIN, UH, UH, THE ORIGINAL MODEL KIND OF PROJECTIONS AND WHAT WE'D ALSO DONE JUST FOR, UH, TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, WHAT IF THE FULL REMAINING AMOUNT, WHICH WOULD BE 64.1 MILLION FOR ROAD PURPOSES, 34,

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UH, UH, FACILITIES WERE ISSUED AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT'S A LOT MORE IMPACTFUL.

UH, IT WOULD ELEVATE THE TAX RATE FOR DEBT SERVICE TO OVER EIGHT AND A HALF CENTS.

AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF PROBLEMS, UH, WHETHER IT WAS AT FULL AMOUNT OR SOMETHING EVEN CLOSE TO THAT, UH, THAT THAT WOULD BE PRODUCED FIRST, UH, UNDER THE, UH, IRS RULES.

AND SO ON.

YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE REASONABLE EXPECTATION.

YOU WILL AND CAN SPEND THE MONEY WITHIN THREE YEARS.

AND THEN SECONDLY, IT WOULD ELIMINATE A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY AS WE DISCUSSED, UH, GOING BACK TO 2019, UH, THIS MULTI-YEAR PROGRAM GIVES FLEXIBILITY AND THAT IF TAXABLE VALUES KIND OF GOING FORWARD, UH, DON'T GROW QUITE AS FAST AS WHAT WE HAD ASSUMED OR PROJECTED.

YOU HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO KIND OF DOWNSIZE OR DELAY, UH, YOU KNOW, IN, IN EFFECT THE ISSUANCE, IF YOU ISSUED ALL OF IT, THE DEBT SERVICE WOULD BE LOCKED IN.

YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THAT ABILITY, BUT STILL WITH THE 50 TO 60, UH, LIKE I SAID, UH, THERE'S GOING TO BE, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, REMAINING, UH, 30 MILLION OR SO THAT, UH, COULD BE, IT, IT WOULD BE UP TO THE COURT NEED AND THE ECONOMY AND THE TAXABLE VALUE AS TO WHEN YOU PROCEEDED TO FINANCE THAT REMAINING AMOUNT.

SO BOTTOM LINE IS, UH, IF THE COURT WANTS TO, FOR THE UNLIMITED TAX ROAD, BONDS TIED SPECIFICALLY TO WHAT MR. POLLSTER SAID, WE CAN, UH, STRUCTURE IT SO THAT THE PROCEEDS FROM THAT IS 25 MILLION, ONE 50.

IF YOU WANT TO TALK ROUND NUMBERS, UH, AND SAY, WELL, LET'S MAKE THE PROCEEDS 26 OR 27, OR EVEN TIED TO THIS, UH, 60 MILLION, UH, EXAMPLE.

I'VE GOT HERE 30 FOR FACILITIES, AND LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO 30 PROCEEDS FOR THE ROADS.

WE CAN DO THAT, BUT, UH, UH, IT'LL ALL FIT WITHIN THE, UH, UH, MODEL AND WHAT WE HAD ASSUMED.

AND AS I TOLD THE JUDGE AND JURY RECENTLY, UH, KIND OF SITTING ON, YOU KNOW, IDLE RIGHT NOW, UH, I NEED TO KNOW THE AMOUNT OF PROCEEDS FOR THE FACILITIES, FOR THE ROADS, BECAUSE IT'S TWO SEPARATE ISSUES, AND THEN WE CAN STRUCTURE EVERYTHING DEFINITIVELY AND MOVE FORWARD.

UH, AND JUST TO LET THE COURT KNOW WE HAVE WRITING CALLS NEXT WEEK.

UH, SO, UH, UH, EVERYTHING IS IN PROCESS TO MOVE FORWARD SO THAT THEREFORE IN FEBRUARY, PROBABLY THE SECOND WEEK, UH, WOULD BE MOST LIKELY MEETING, BE IN A POSITION TO SELL, BRING IT BACK TO THE COURT FOR APPROVAL.

UM, CAN I START OFF THE CONVERSATION BY ASKING EVERYBODY WHAT THEY WOULD AGREE TO TAKE YOUR PEN OR YOUR PENCIL AND CROSS OFF THAT RIGHT-HAND COLUMN THE FULL OF ARRANGING AUTHORIZATION.

HE DID THAT WE WERE NOT DISCUSSING THAT.

SO WE'RE REALLY ONLY TALKING ABOUT, I THINK IF THIS IS WHAT I'M HEARING, I THINK THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE TOTAL ISSUANCE OF 50, UH, UH, OR 50 OR 60 OR SOMETHING IN BETWEEN JOHN SAYS 25 IS W THAT'S WHAT THE PROJECTION HE HAS FOR THE ROAD.

SO THAT WOULD, UM, THAT WOULD MAKE IT 55, NOT 60.

SO, UH, JUST TO ANSWER, AND I KNOW WE LIKE ROUND NUMBERS, BUT AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO LIKE THAT MILLION DOLLARS FOR 1641.

I CAN'T GET THAT TO BE ROUND CAUSE THAT'S, WHAT'S THE REMAINDER.

UM, AND THE, UH, THE OTHER ISSUE IS, IS THAT, THAT GEORGE IS RIGHT.

I DON'T THINK THEY'RE THE EXPECTATION RIGHT NOW FOR MOST OF THE JUDGES PROJECTS ARE ON SYSTEM AND COMMISSIONER.

KATE'S GOT A LOT ON SYSTEM AND YOU'RE MOVING INTO THE NON-SYSTEM WORLD, RIGHT? UH, TECH STOCKS IN A LOW, AT THIS POINT.

AND SO THE EXPECTATION THAT WE'D BE ABLE TO BURN THROUGH THAT MONEY AT AN APPROPRIATE RATE, ISN'T THERE NOW.

SO WHAT I'VE SUGGESTED IS WHAT I THINK WE CAN GET DONE IN A REASONABLE TIME.

SO GEORGE IS RIGHT.

WE, WE PICKED ONES WE THINK WE CAN GET DONE.

AND, UM, AND THEN Y'ALL KNOW, Y'ALL CAN DO YOUR OWN COUNTY ROADS AS FAST AS YOU WANT, PUTS US AT THAT PUTS US IN AN A 55 MILLION, WHICH, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD JUST HAVE TO INTERPOLATE WHAT THE TAX RATE STILL WOULD BE BELOW WHAT WE PROJECTED.

UH, AND I THINK WE'RE STILL FAIRLY CONSERVATIVE ON OUR, IN OUR NEW PROPERTY VALUE COMING ON THE ROLLS.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE.

THE JANUARY APPRAISALS OF THIS YEAR ARE GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN THERE WERE IN JANUARY OF LAST YEAR.

UM, WHAT IS THE INTEREST RATE IMPLIED IN THESE NUMBERS, GEORGE? UH, I DIDN'T HAVE THE SCHEDULE.

I APOLOGIZE, UH, THE DETAIL, BUT THE EFFECTIVE RATE FOR

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THE 50 60 MILLION IS LIKE 2.4%.

AND THAT'S PRETTY INDICATIVE OF WHAT CURRENT MARKET IS.

NOW, IF YOU WATCH THE TREASURY MARKET THE LAST WEEK OR TWO, SINCE THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, REITS ARE KIND OF EDGING UP.

SO, UH, UH, FOR THAT REASON, IT PROBABLY WILL BE GOOD TO, YOU KNOW, BE IN A POSITION TO, TO HAVE SALE OCCUR AS QUICKLY AS THEY GOING TO BEING LOWER MY OPINION ANYWAY.

OKAY.

SO LET'S GO AROUND THE TABLE HERE.

WHAT'S EVERYBODY THINKING, WE USUALLY START WITH PRECINCT ONE, LET'S START WITH PRECINCT FOUR, AND THEN NEXT WEEK WE'LL DO AN ALPHA-BETA QUESTION.

OKAY.

THAT'LL WORK, THAT'LL WORK.

SO I THINK I'VE ALREADY GONE ON RECORDS, UH, EXPRESSING MY CONCERN ABOUT WHAT I ENVISIONED, UH, AS IT RISING INTEREST RATES.

AND FOR THAT REASON, COUPLED WITH THE FACT THAT PARTICULARLY, UM, RELATED TO THE ROAD FUNDING, THIS WORK NEEDS TO GET DONE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTY NEED THIS WORK DONE, WE'RE FOLLOWING THEIR INSTRUCTIONS ACTUALLY.

AND, UH, AND SO I, UH, I'M FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF ISSUING, UM, WHATEVER THE ACTUAL NUMBER THERE'S 55 MILLION, UM, UH, AMOUNT IS.

I THINK THAT'S, UH, I THINK IT'S A WISE DECISION.

I THINK IN THE LONG-TERM NOT ONLY DOES IT SERVE CERTAINLY MY PRECINCT, UH, BUT THE COUNTY AS WELL.

AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD FINANCIAL DECISION GIVEN THE, GIVEN THE STATE OF THE ECONOMY NOW AND THE UNPREDICTABLE NATURE GOING FORWARD.

SORRY, I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT JOSH COLLOQUIES HERE, BUT WHEN YOU SAY 55, JUST REMEMBER IF YOU DO 55, THERE'S $150,000 AND SOMEBODY WHO'S GOING TO GIVE UP.

SO I WOULD SAY GO TO THE NEXT ROUND NUMBER.

I WAS SPEAKING IN GENERALITIES.

SO THAT NUMBER WOULD BE PERFECT.

YEAH.

I ASKED YOU, I ACTUALLY ASKED JOHN IF HE WOULD JUST ROUND THAT DOWN TO A 25 MILLION INSTEAD OF 25, ONE 15.

AND HE SAID, NO, THAT HE WOULD NOT.

SO IT JUST KIND OF SHOWS YOU THAT, I GUESS HE, YOU KNOW, HE'S, I'M NOT THE BOSS OF HIM, SO IT'S, UH, IT WOULD BE, UH, 55, ONE 25 IS THE NUMBER THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

IF WE'RE USING HIS NUMBER THERE, IS THAT OKAY? OKAY.

UH, TERRY NOT MUCH, NO I'M IN AGREEMENT AS WELL.

CAUSE I JUST DON'T THINK WE'RE EVER GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS, UH, IN THE NEAR ANYWAY FOR THE INTEREST RATES THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

I THINK THAT'S INEVITABLE.

IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

I KNOW THAT THE VOTERS IN PRECINCT THREE VOTED VERY STRONGLY FOR THIS, AND THEY'RE VERY HAPPY WITH WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO SO FAR.

AND I THINK THERE'LL BE EVEN MORE HAPPY WITH WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO AFTER THIS.

SO I DEFINITELY AGREE.

WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.

I WAS ON THE, UH, COLQUITT ROAD EXPRESSWAY YESTERDAY NIGHT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW FAST I COULD HAVE DRIVEN, BUT I STAYED IN THE SPEED LIMIT.

YES, SIR.

YOU DID.

BUT IT WAS SURE IT WAS SMOOTH.

I COULD HAVE GONE OFF TRACK.

YEAH, IT IS SMOOTH.

EXCEPT FOR THAT DIP AT THE END OF THE ONE LITTLE LIP, YOU GOT TO WATCH IT.

LIPSON, BUGGER BEAR.

UH, UH, NO, I, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH EVERYBODY ELSE.

I BROUGHT THIS UP A FEW MONTHS AGO TO OUR COUNTY JUDGE BECAUSE I NEEDED A LITTLE MORE MONEY AND THE INTEREST IS LOW.

AND THE, AND THE GOOD NEWS ABOUT IT IS IF SOME RIDICULOUS THING HAPPENS AND NEXT YEAR THE INTEREST DROPS, WE CAN ALWAYS REDO, YOU KNOW, WE WOULDN'T WANT TO DO THAT, BUT I MEAN, IT IS, IT IS A GOOD, IT'S A GOOD INTEREST RATE AND I DON'T SEE IT GETTING ANY BETTER.

I THINK IT'S THE TIME.

AND I THINK THAT, ESPECIALLY SINCE MOST OF MY PROJECTS HAPPENED TO BE ONLINE WITH THE STATE, UH, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED DESPERATELY BECAUSE MINE ARE GONNA MOVE A LITTLE SLOWER THAN EVERYBODY.

ELSE'S, IT'S NOT THE COUNTIES FAULT MORE THAN POINT THAT OUT, BUT I HOPE, UH, UH, I'M GOING TO BLAME IT ALL ON, ON OUR ROAD, MAN.

IS THAT WHAT HE CALLS HIMSELF? I ROAD, MAN, HE NEEDS TO TALK TEXTS OUT A LITTLE HARDER, THE, UH, UH, BUT, UH, BUT WE'RE GETTING THERE AND THAT'S A GOOD, THAT'S A GOOD PROCESS.

IF WE'RE PRODUCING MONEY FOR HIM AND, AND, AND DOING THE ENGINEERING TO IMPLEMENT, THEN OUR ROADS GOING TO GO IN FRONT AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE AFTER.

SO I'M GOING TO ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS COMMISSION COMMISSIONER HUNT.

OKAY.

I AGREE WITH WHAT EVERYBODY SAID ABOUT THE INTEREST RATES.

I THINK THEY'RE AT ALL TIME LOWS AND WE NEED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT AND THE 25 MILLION PLUS THAT WE NEED FOR THE ROADS.

UM, SO THE ROADS ARE NO BRINER WITH ME, SO, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BUILDING

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BOND AND I HAVEN'T REALLY SEEN THE 30 MILLION IS GOING TO COVER WHAT THE WHOLE PACKAGE PART OF IT OR WHAT WE HAVEN'T HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT FACILITIES VERSUS ROADS.

AND THE ROADS TO ME ARE THE PRIORITY RIGHT NOW.

WELL, WELL, BY THE END, OF COURSE, THESE ARE TWO DIFFERENT ISSUES.

I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, EACH, EACH ONE IS CARVED OUT AS A SEPARATE PROPOSITION.

THE PLAN ON THE FACILITIES FUNDING IS THAT BY THE END OF THIS MONTH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A FIRM BIDS FOR BOTH OF THE FACILITIES THAT WE'RE BUILDING RIGHT NOW.

SO THAT'S GOING TO, THAT'S GOING TO GIVE US A FIRM SOLID NUMBER OF HOW MUCH WE HAVE LEFT, UH, TO SPREAD IT AMONGST THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE'RE COMMITTED TO DO.

WE CAN ON THE BOND.

UH, WE COMMITTED TO, UH, DO SOMETHING IN TERMS OF THE, THE COURTHOUSE HERE, IN TERMS OF RENOVATION ON THE COURTHOUSE, IN THE SQUARE, WE'RE COMMITTED TO DO, UH, TO PROVIDE SOME SORT OF A DISTANCE FACILITY, UH, ON THAT LAND THAT, UH, FORNEY ISD HAS DONATED TO US TO BUILD SOMETHING FOR THE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT EMERGENCY SERVICES, UH, UP NEXT TO NORTH FORNIA HIGH SCHOOL.

THAT'S THE OTHER COMMITMENT THAT WE MADE.

AND THEN THE LAST PART OF THAT COMMITMENT, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO MEET IN FEBRUARY TO UNDERSTAND FROM THE, THE STUDY THAT HAD BEEN THE FACILITY STUDIES IS TO, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SOME CHOICES ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH OUR SUB COURTHOUSES OR OTHER FACILITY, SUB COURTHOUSE FACILITIES.

SO THERE, THERE'S NOT, UH, I CAN, UH, I CAN ALMOST GUARANTEE YOU THAT THOSE, THAT IF YOU TAKE THE RENOVATIONS TO THE COURTHOUSE, THE CONSTRUCTION OF A STATION OR LOCATION UP NEXT TO NORTH 40 HIGH SCHOOL FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES AND SUB COURT, WHATEVER WE'RE GOING TO DO IS SUB COURTHOUSES.

UH, WHATEVER WE HAVE LEFT OVER IS NOT GOING TO BE ENOUGH TO DO ALL THAT.

I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO NEED IT ALL.

WE MIGHT, WE MIGHT RUN OUT OF MONEY BEFORE.

WELL, WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE CHOICES AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, PROBABLY SOME OF THESE THINGS WILL HAVE TO BE DONE.

I MEAN, WE'LL HAVE TO DO SOME THINGS IN STAGES.

I DID TALK TO THE SHERIFF ABOUT THAT BUILDING, UH, UP NORTH AT NORTH 40 HIGH SCHOOL.

AND I DO FEEL LIKE THAT FROM THAT CONVERSATION, WE'RE NOT REALLY TALKING ABOUT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A FAIRLY MODEST, PROBABLY A PRETTY MODEST FACILITY, BASICALLY JUST AN OFFICE BUILDING WITH SOME CLASSROOM SPACE.

I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A BIG PROJECT, BUT, UM, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, WE WON'T KNOW UNTIL THE END OF JANUARY, HOW MUCH MONEY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LEFT, BUT I, I FEEL REALLY CONFIDENT IN TELLING YOU THAT IT'S, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO EVERYTHING IT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

AND WHEN USE IS USEFUL.

OKAY, WELL, THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT THAT, UH, MAYBE, UH, GALLAGHER WILL LOWER THE COST AS MUCH AS, UH, 40 SCHOOL.

AND, UH, I WON'T SAY THAT MUCH BECAUSE IT'S MORE THAN OUR BOND, BUT NO, BUT I DO KNOW THAT THE BIDS, I DO KNOW THAT THE BIDS THAT HAVE COME IN ON THE FORNEY, UH, SCHOOL DISTRICT PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN TEACH SURPRISINGLY LOW.

YEAH.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOPING.

YEAH.

THEY'RE SAVING ROUGHLY ALMOST $70 MILLION.

YEAH.

WHICH IS, WHICH IS A LOT.

SO THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES ARE A LITTLE MORE HUNGRY THAN WHAT WE THINK CRIMINAL GREEN THAN THE ROAD CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES.

YEAH.

APPARENTLY.

UH, SO WHAT, WHAT, UH, I GUESS WHAT WE WOULD, W WHAT'S CALLED FOR HERE IS, UH, A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE IN KAREN.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO FINE TUNE THIS LANGUAGE, BUT IT'D BE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE HILLTOP SECURITIES TO MOVE FORWARD ON ALL STEPS REQUIRED TO ISSUE THE $30 MILLION REMAINING $30 MILLION FOR FACILITIES AND 25 MILLION, $125,000 FOR ROADS AS DESCRIBED ON THE DOCUMENT THAT JOHN GAVE US.

YOUR, YOUR WORDING IS OKAY.

AS LONG AS YOU HAVE YOUR AMOUNTS.

CORRECT? I DO HAVE THE AMOUNT, CORRECT.

I JUST COULDN'T LET JOHN POLLSTER SAID IF THERE WAS A DISCREPANCY THERE , IT'S 20 BY ONE 50, 25 BANG.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO JUST TO ELIMINATE CONFUSION, IF IT'S ALL RIGHT, I WILL JUST GO AHEAD.

AND I'VE ALREADY SAID AT ONCE, IS IT OKAY IF I JUST MAKE THAT IN TERMS OF MOTION? OKAY.

THE MOTION IS THAT WE AUTHORIZE HILLTOP SECURITIES TO TAKE

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ALL MEASURES REQUIRED TO ISSUE $30 MILLION IN FACILITIES, BONDS, AND 25 MILLION, $150,000 IN ROAD BONDS.

THAT'S THE MOTION IS FOR A SECOND, A SECOND, SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

NOW YOU HAVE TO WORK.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO ASK YOU TO GET TO WORK, JOHN.

CAUSE YOU KNOW, THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE.

OKAY.

NEXT STEP, DAVID

[5. David Asbill; Presentation by Kaufman Leadership Class regarding Children's Shelter.]

ASHEVILLE PRESENTATION BY COFFIN LEADERSHIP CLASS REGARDING THE CHILDREN'S SHELTER.

WELL, SHE'S PASSING NOW.

I WAS JUST TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

AND, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, INTRODUCE JENNIFER MARIE, WHO WILL ACTUALLY BE DOING THE PRESENTATION, UH, KAUFFMAN LEADERSHIP CLASS, UH, CHOSE THE SHELTER AS THEIR PROJECT FOR THIS YEAR.

UH, AND WE HAVE ASKED THEM TO HELP US, UH, UPDATE OUR BRANDING AND FIND WAYS TO REACH OUT SO THAT WE CAN HAVE, UM, BETTER FUNDRAISING OPPORTUNITIES TO HELP SUPPORT THE SHELTER.

AND SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO AND ALL THE GOOD INFORMATION, I HAND IT OVER TO JENNIFER MARIE, CAN YOU HEAR ME? HELLO.

THANKS FOR LETTING ME COME AND SPEAK TO YOU TODAY.

UM, LIKE DAVID SAID, I AM JENNIFER MARIE AND I AM PARTICIPATING IN THIS YEAR'S KAUFMAN COUNTY LEADERSHIP CLASS.

UM, I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT THIS YEAR WITH, UM, THE SHELTER BEING, UM, BEING OUR PROJECT.

I HAVE WORKED WITH THE SHELTER WHEN RICK WILLIAMS WAS THERE, UM, WITH OUR YOUTH GROUP OF THE CHURCH AND THROUGH, UM, THE, UM, UH, CHEERLEADERS, UM, AT THE HIGH SCHOOL AND MY DAUGHTER'S A CHEERLEADER.

SO I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME AT THE SHELTER.

UM, BEEN HERE, MY HOSTING CAN LIFE LIVED IN MIKE'S PRECINCT FOR, UM, WE WON'T SAY HOW MANY YEARS, A LONG, LONG TIME, THREE MILES FROM THE SHELTER.

AND THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THAT I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE SHELTER THAT I'VE LEARNED THROUGH THIS LEADERSHIP CLASS AND THAT I FEEL REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT TRYING TO HELP IT.

SO ONE THING I DIDN'T KNOW WAS THE FUNDING THAT NOT ALL THEIR FUNDING, BUT THEY'RE NOT 100% FULLY FUNDED.

UM, 80, I THINK HE'S IN 60% OF THEIR FUNDING COMES FROM FEDERAL AND LOCAL FUNDS AND THE REST IS JUST DONATIONS.

I HAD NO IDEA.

I THOUGHT THEY NEEDED TOYS AT CHRISTMAS.

UM, SO ANOTHER THING THAT, UM, I HAD NO IDEA IS THAT CHILDREN COME FROM ALL OVER.

THEY'RE NOT JUST KAUFMAN COUNTY KIDS AND MOST OF THE TIME THEY'RE NOT KAUFMAN COUNTY KIDS AT ALL.

UM, I KNOW KIDS HAVE COME FROM AMARILLO IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE STATE.

UM, SO IT'S NOT A KAUFMAN COUNTY THING.

SO WHAT OUR CLASSES I'M DOING IS WE HAVE SPLIT UP INTO THREE DIFFERENT SECTIONS AND THIS IS JUST INFORMATIONAL TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE KIND OF DOING TO SUPPORT THE SHELTER.

UM, WE ARE SPLIT UP INTO ONE GROUP IS, UM, DOING SOME, UM, GRANT WRITING RESEARCH JUST TO SEE WHAT GRANTS ARE OUT THERE THAT ARE AVAILABLE AND THAT WE MIGHT CAN APPLY FOR.

UM, THE SECOND GROUP IS WORKING ON A FUNDRAISING GROUP AND THEIR GOAL IS TO ESTABLISH LIKE AN ANNUAL FUNDRAISER, THAT SOMETHING THAT'S SUSTAINABLE THAT YOU CAN HAVE EVERY YEAR.

UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE PLANNING A CASINO, NOT IN APRIL.

UM, AND UM, THOSE PLANS ARE GOING REALLY WELL.

UM, WE HOPE TO RAISE ABOUT $40,000 THROUGH THE CASINO, NOT IS OUR GOAL.

SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

UM, THE LAST THING THAT WE THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT, WE HAVE A MARKETING GROUP AND WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE ON OUR TEAM THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY DO FOR A LIVING.

UM, ONE OF THE GIRLS IS ACTUALLY THE MARKETING DIRECTOR FOR THE, UM, TERRELL ISD.

AND WHAT WE THINK IS THERE NEEDS TO BE A BRAND.

SO CURRENTLY IT'S THE KAUFMAN COUNTY CHILDREN'S SHELTER, A A FOR NORVILLE CENTER VERY LONG, NOT EASILY SAID EASILY IDENTIFIED THEIR LOGO IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, ONE OF THE, UH, NORVILLE BROTHERS DREW IN THE EIGHTIES WHEN THE SHELTER FIRST OPENED, UM, WE FEEL LIKE IT NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING SHORTER, SOMETHING, A LOGO THAT'S EASILY IDENTIFIED, IT'S EASILY.

UM, SOMEONE SEES IT AND THEY GO, YUP, THAT'S THE SHELTER.

WE CAN PUT A STICKER ON YOUR CAR IF YOU'RE A SPONSOR OF THE SHELTER AND PEOPLE KNOW, YES, THAT PERSON SPONSORS THE SHELTER I'VE SPOKEN WITH EARLY, UM, AT ABOUT NAMING THE CENTER.

UM, OUR THOUGHT IS SINCE IT DOES NOT SERVE ONLY KAUFMAN COUNTY KIDS THAT WE COULD DROP THE KAUFMAN COUNTY.

UM, WE KNOW THAT IT IS HOUSED IN KAUFMAN COUNTY, IT'S ON KAUFMAN COUNTY PROPERTY, BUT, UM, WE DON'T FEEL LIKE THERE'S A NEED FOR THAT TO BE IN THE NECESSARILY THE OFFICIAL NAME OF IT.

UM, EARLY DIDN'T FEEL LIKE WHAT NEEDED TO SAY A FERN NORVILLE FERN WAS MY, UM, NURSE WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL.

AND, UH, MR. NORVILLE WAS MY COUNSELOR IN HIGH SCHOOL.

SO I THINK LEAVING THE NORVILLE AS PART OF THE NAME IS

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VERY IMPORTANT.

UM, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE IN EARLY FEELS THE SAME WAY THAT IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE A, FOR A NORVILLE, JUST NO REAL CENTER AND REALLY THAT'S THE NAMING OF THE BUILDING.

UM, SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS NORVILLE CENTER, EMERGENCY CHILDREN'S SHELTER.

WE HAVEN'T, UM, PRESENTED THESE LOGOS TO ANYBODY ELSE YET.

WE KIND OF NARROWED IT DOWN TO TWO LOGOS THAT WE LOCK AND WE'RE GOING TO BE PRESENTING IT TO THE SHELTER BOARD, UM, THIS WEEK FOR THEIR APPROVAL, THEY CAN PICK WHICH ONE THEY LIKE THE BEST OR COMING BACK TO US AND GO, WE DON'T LOCK EITHER ONE, COME BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE TO TELL YOU.

UM, THIS IS OUR PLANS AND, UM, LOOK FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

THERE'S NO ACTION NEEDED.

WE JUST WANTED MORE INFORMATION.

AND, UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UM, UM, EASILY FOUND AT AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK AND, UM, GIVE ME A CALL AND I'LL GLADLY TO TALK THROUGH ANY OF IT WITH YOU.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME AT THIS TIME? WELL, I HAVE A COMMENT AND THAT IS THAT, UH, I KNOW THAT THE PROJECTS THAT THE LEADERSHIP CLASS HAS DONE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A PHYSICAL PROJECT.

YOU KNOW, RECONSTRUCTING IS THE BUILDING THAT, AND THIS IS, UH, THIS IS REALLY A THINKING OUT OF THE BOX AND I THINK IT'S COULD MAKE, I THINK EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE SAID IS, IS REALLY BADLY NEEDED.

IT'S JUST A, IT'S A GREAT, IT'S A GREAT PROJECT.

THE, THE ONE THING THAT WILL WITH THE REBRANDING, ONE THING WE'LL DO IS REDESIGN THE WEBSITE.

AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE COMPANY THAT HOSTED, UM, TO REDESIGN THAT AND TO HAVE LIKE A LINK IN THERE FOR AN AMAZON, YOU CLICK ON THIS LINK, IT TAKES YOU STRAIGHT TO THEIR AMAZON WISHLIST.

YOU PICK WHAT YOU WANT TO BUY AND YOU SEND IT STRAIGHT TO THE SHELTER.

SO LOTS OF NEW AND UPDATED TECHNOLOGY IS HAPPENING ON THE WEBSITE AND ON THE FACEBOOK PAGE, YOU KNOW, IF HE GETS FIVE KIDS IN AND NEEDS A BOX OF OPERAS, HE CAN PUT THAT OUT ON FACEBOOK AND PEOPLE SEE THIS IMAGE IMMEDIATELY.

THEY KNOW THE SHELTER NEEDS DIAPERS OR WHATEVER IT IS THEIR NEED.

SO JUST USING SOCIAL MEDIA AND THE WEB PLATFORMS TO GET INFORMATION OUT IS ONE OF OUR GOALS.

SO YES, SIR.

THAT'S ONE PLACE.

SOCIAL MEDIA.

YES, IT IS.

WE'RE GOING TO USE IT FOR GOOD.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

YOU VERY MUCH.

EXCELLENT.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, DAVID.

I'LL TRY AND FIGURE OUT WHY I HAVE TWO AGENDAS IN HERE.

UH, SO NEXT UP, UH, HAS TO DO WITH SPRADLEY FARMS. ARE YOU PRESENTING THIS? OKAY.

UH, DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF ORDER OF AN ORDER APPOINTING DIRECTORS TO SERVE AS MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF REINVESTMENT ZONE, NUMBER 13, THE CITY OF MOSQUITO, TAKE IT AWAY.

YOUR HONOR WOULD LIKE TO ACTUALLY DO NUMBER SEVEN OR SEND THAT NUMBER SIX, IF THAT WOULD BE NORMAL.

OKAY.

[7. Spradley Farms; Discuss/Consider/Approve Tax Participation Agreement Amendment.]

THEN ITEM SEVEN, THE DISCUSS, CONSIDER AND DISCUSS FOR APPROVAL TAX PARTICIPATION AGREEMENT AMENDMENT.

AND BACK IN, I BELIEVE AUGUST EARLY IN THE FALL, THE COURT COMMISSIONER'S COURT APPROVED THE AGREEMENT TO PARTICIPATE IN THE TAX INCREMENT, REINVESTMENT ZONE, NUMBER 13, CITY OF MUSKIE, WHICH IS BRADLEY FARMS. AND AT THAT TIME, THE AGREEMENT HAD SEVEN BOARD MEMBERS FOR THE TOURS.

AND SO WHAT THE CITY OF MOSQUITO HAS DONE, THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE AMENDED THAT TAX AGREEMENT PARTICIPATION TO INCREASE THE BOARD MEMBERS FROM SEVEN TO NINE, SO THAT THE COUNTY CAN THEN HAVE TWO BOARD MEMBERS REPRESENTING THE COUNTY ON THE TOUR'S BOARD.

SO THE FIRST ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS FOR THE, UM, COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO APPROVE THAT AMENDMENT TO THE TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE.

NUMBER 13 AGREEMENT INCREASING THE NUMBER OF BOARD MEMBERS FROM SEVEN TO NINE.

SO I'LL PUT THAT BEFORE THE COURT FIRST.

OKAY.

IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT TAX PARTICIPATION AGREEMENT AMENDMENT AS PRESENTED BY KAREN? SO WE HAVE THAT MOVE MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER IN CASES OR SECOND SEGMENT COMMISSIONER BARBARA, DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES NOW BACK TO

[6. Spradley Farms; Discuss/consider approval of Order Appointing Directors to Serve as Members of the Board of Directors of Reinvestment Zone Number Thirteen, City of Mesquite,]

ITEM SIX, DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN ORDER APPOINTING DIRECTORS TO SERVE AS MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF RE-INVESTMENT ZONE, NUMBER 13, CITY OF MESQUITE.

UM, THIS ORDER IS EXACTLY AS STATED, WE'RE ASKING THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO APPROVE THE ORDER, GRANTING TO BOARD MEMBERS, AND THEN YOU ALL NEED TO DECIDE WHICH TWO BOARD MEMBERS TO PUT IN, IN THE ORDER.

OKAY.

WHAT'S IN PRECINCT FOUR, RIGHT? RIGHT.

SO ONE OF THEM, WE CUT THEM IN HALF ONE OF THE OTHER, WELL, HE'S WORTH TWO PEOPLE ANYWAY.

UH, SO, OKAY.

SO IF THAT WOULD BE ONE WHO, WHO WOULD, IS WANTS TO

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VOLUNTEER TO SERVE AS THE OTHER MEMBER? WELL, IT WAS PRETTY CLOSE TO PRECINCT TWO.

I THINK HE'S GOING TO GET THERE, THERE DOES DONE, HE HESITATED.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO PUT THAT IN THE FORM OF A MOTION COMMISSIONER KATE'S JOB TO MAKE A MOTION THAT, UH, THAT WE APPOINT MYSELF AND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS TO BE THE KAUFMAN COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES TO THE TERM BOARD? UH, WE HAVE THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CATES.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SAY SIX WITH COMMISSIONER HUNT, EASY FOR YOU TO SAY DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED.

NO MOTION CARRIES.

CONGRATULATIONS, GENTLEMEN.

UH, NEXT UP OH, ONE CAN TRAIL RECEIVE

[8. Owen Cantrell; Receive update on progress of rehabs, upgrades and repairs to conservation dams.]

AN UPDATE ON PROGRESS OF REHABS, UPGRADES AND REPAIRS TO CONSERVATION DAMS, SEVERAL LADDER TO DISCUSS WITH Y'ALL TODAY.

UH, ONE OF THEM I'M GOING TO START OFF WITH THE CURRENT REPAIRS THAT ARE ONGOING AS WE SPEAK, UM, UPPER EAST FORK, LATERAL SIDE 11 HAS BEEN COMPLETED.

THAT'S ONE, UH, OWN, UH, OFF 15.5 57, RIGHT? NORTH OF CRANDALL.

THAT PROJECT IS COMPLETE, UH, SHOOT CREEK SITE NANNY.

THAT IS, UH, JUST NORTH OF A THEME, 27, 28 AND FOUR 29 NORTH OF THE INTERSTATE 20 OVER THERE.

THEY ARE STILL WAITING ON PARTS FOR THEIR FLAT GATE TO INSTALL FOR THE RISE OR THE CONCRETE RISER THAT, THAT GOES UP OUT IN THE LIGHT FOR THE OVERFLOW TO WORK THAT HAS BEEN ONGOING FOR MONTHS NOW, JUST SITTING THERE, WAITING ON THEM TO GET THIS PART.

AND THEY PROBABLY DON'T HAVE THAT AT WALMART THOUGH.

I'M GUESSING, UH, WHY ARE STANDARDS ONLY A COUPLE OF COMPANIES IN THE WHOLE WORLD THAT MIKE'S THEM? AND ANYWAY, THAT'S, IT'S ANOTHER STORY, BUT ANYWAY, THEY'RE WHITE AND OLD PARTS ON THAT ONE.

UH, THEN ON CEDAR CREEK, 87, A S L MO LIKE, UH, FORCE THE Y'ALL DON'T ARE NOT HAVING TO FRONT UP ANY MONEY ON THAT.

THAT'S ALL THROUGH THE CITY OF TERRELL.

AND I UNDERSTAND IT IS GETTING VERY CLOSE TO BEING READY FOR BIDS TO GO OUT FOR BE IT'S ONLY IT, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHEN THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT IT'S FAIRLY SOON FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, UH, THE NEXT ONES OR, UH, LOWER EAST FORKS, NINE AND 10 DOWN IN THE WARSAW COMMUNITY.

THAT'S THE ONE WHERE WE HAD, UH, BACK IN 16, WE HAD ALL THE FLOODING DOWN THERE AND I HAD TO RESCUE SOME PEOPLE.

UH, COMMISSIONER CATES HAS BEEN DOWN THERE WITH US ON THAT SITE A COUPLE OF TIMES.

UH, THEY ARE IN THE, UH, FEDERAL REHAB PROGRAM NOW, AND THEY'VE GONE THROUGH SEVERAL PHASES AND THEY WERE NOW IN THE DESIGN PHASE, WHICH IS THE LAST PHASE BEFORE THEY GO TO CONSTRUCTION.

AND THIS HAS BEEN OUT SINCE FEDERAL DOLLARS IS INVOLVED IN IT.

IT IS A ONGOING AND CONTINUOUS PROCESS.

JUDGE DIDN'T EVEN WANT TO LOOK AT HIS, BUT HE IS, HE IS STILL LAKE COUNTY.

THERE'S SOME HANDOUT MATERIAL THERE.

UH, IT HAS SOME, UH, THAT IS ONLY A FEW PAGES OF 259 PAGE DOCUMENT.

THANK YOU FOR NOT BRINGING ALL THAT.

WELL, I ONLY HAVE A COUPLE OF THESE HARD COPIES AND, UH, THIS IS ACTUALLY ONE THAT WAS PUT OUT AS A DRAFT, BUT I DON'T THINK ANYTHING HAS CHANGED IN IT FROM THE FINAL.

UH, THEY PUT THIS OUT FOR A PUBLIC REVIEW.

WE ONLY HAD ONE PERSON TO EVEN BE INTERESTED IN IT AND THEY NEVER RESPONDED BACK WITH ANY KIND OF FEEDBACK ON IT.

BUT ANYWAY, UH, WHAT WE DO NEED FROM THE COUNTY ON THESE, WE NEED IT AN, AN UPDATED, UH, EAP MURCHIE ACTION PLAN ON BOTH THOSE SITES.

AND ALSO WE NEED THE, UH, COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OPINION ON THE LAND RIGHTS AND EASEMENTS ON THOSE SITES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING THESE WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT IN.

UH, I BELIEVE IN 53,

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UH, EASEMENTS, I THINK WERE GRANTED IN 52.

SO THEY, THEY GO BACK THERE FOR A WHILE, BUT, UH, THERE EVERY ONE OF THESE EASEMENTS THAT WE HAVE, OR ALL, ALL THE OLD LEASE MYTHS ARE WRITTEN EXACTLY THE SAME.

THEY JUST USED THE TEMPLATE AND BUILD IT IN THE BLANK OR THE NEED TO PUT THE NAMES IN THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION AND THINGS LIKE STANDING THE ENTIRE PROPERTY RIGHT IN IT.

YES.

UH, IT'S WHAT WE REFER TO AS A BLANKET EASEMENT, AND IT MAY SAY 45 ACRES OUT OF 400 ACRES, MORE OR LESS.

IT ALWAYS SAYS THAT MORE OR LESS IN THERE.

SO IT GIVES IT A LOT OF LEEWAY ON THERE.

ANYWAY, WE DO NEED, UH, UH, LEGAL OPINION ON THOSE HAY AND THE, UH, FEDERAL PHONES FOR THE, BOTH OF THOSE SITES HAS BEEN AUTHORIZED.

THE FEDERAL MONEY IS SUPPOSED TO BE SITTING OVER THERE AND THE COFFEE CAN READ.

YOU'D HAVE TO GO ON THAT WHEN THEY GET READY TO WISH THEY, THEY HAVE PAID FOR ALL THE, ALL THE STUDIES AND ENGINEERING AND ALL THAT HAS BEEN PAID FOR THROUGH FEDERAL DOLLARS TO START WITH.

SO NONE OF THAT HAS BEEN, AND THIS IS SINCE THIS IS A REHAB, IT IS A 1.75% COST TO THE COUNTY ON A, I BELIEVE IT'S THE FOURTH OR FIFTH, FOURTH, FIFTH PAGE OR THIRD TO FOURTH PAGES.

THEY HAVE THE COST ESTIMATES FOR NINE AT A BUY-SELL ONE AND A HALF MILLION.

AND ON 10, 3.8 MILLION I PARTIALLY THINK THOSE ARE, ARE NOT GONNA HOLD UP.

I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE TOO LOW.

WE, WE HAVE SOME, EXCUSE ME, WE HAVE SOME VERY SIMILAR PROJECTS THAT HAVE CURRENTLY, UH, JUST BEEN ENGINEERED UP IN ROCKWELL COUNTY THAT ARE VERY SIMILAR TO THESE.

AND THEY'RE COMING IN AT, UH, AROUND 3 MILLION FOR THE LOW WIND ONE AND UP TO 10 MILLION ON ONE COMPARABLE TO PSAT 10.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT, HOW THEY'RE GOING TO WORK THAT OUT, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THOSE FUNDS ARE ADEQUATE FOR WHAT THEY'VE GONE HAVE TO DO.

THEY'RE UH, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING THE, UH, OH, WHO DEVELOPED THESE PHONES, UH, YOU KNOW, WHO DEVELOPED THESE PROJECTIONS? UH, UH, ENGINEERING FIRM CALLED H E COMM THERE.

THE ENGINEERING FIRM IS DOING BOTH THOSE SITES NINE AND 10 ABOUT HAVING QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE.

HOW LONG AGO DID THEY DEVELOP THIS STUFF? THIS IS JUST, WELL, THEY STARTED, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL REMEMBER BACK WHEN WE HAD THOSE FIRST MEETINGS OVER THERE IN WARSAW ABOUT TWO, THREE YEARS AGO, TWO YEARS AGO.

YEAH.

THEY HAD STARTED EVEN BEFORE THAT, ON THAT.

SO THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR GOING ON FOUR YEARS NOW AND, UH, UH, LIKE SAY THIS IS GOING TO BE THAT WHAT THEY CALL IT, CONCRETE, UH, LABORATORY WE'RE TIGHT SPILLWAY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAM.

IT'S AN ACCORDION LOOKING SPILLWAY AND THEY'RE PRETTY EXPENSIVE TO BUILD MORE UNDERSTAND.

THERE'S ONLY BEEN A COUPLE OF THEM BUILT IN THE WHOLE STATE.

UH, ONLY ON THIS NEXT SHEET.

UH, THE SENIOR HANDOUT, UH, IS A LIST OF PUT OUT BY THE STATE SOIL, WATER CONSERVATION BOARD.

THESE ARE SITES THAT ARE IN THE WORKS FOR BEING, UH, CONSIDERED FOR CONSTRUCTION.

UH, AND I HA I'VE HIGHLIGHTED THE ONES THAT ARE IN KAUFMAN COUNTY.

THAT'S ON THIS LIST, OF COURSE, UH, SEED CREEK 87 A IS IT'S TOP OF THE LIST ON SEVERAL DIFFERENT ONES, WHICH THE THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT.

NOW JUDGE, HOW LONG EIGHT, 18 YEARS SEEMS LIKE A LONG TIME, A LONG TIME BACK.

UH, ANYTIME THESE, UH, LIKE I SAY, ANYTIME YOU PUT THESE FEDERAL DOLLARS IN THERE, THERE'S LOTS OF HOOPS TO JUMP THROUGH, UH, UNDER ITEM TWO, THERE THAT'S A STATE STATE FUNDED DAM UPGRADE PROJECTS, LASTLY, TO BE FUNDED AND ON THAT IS LOWER EAST FORK,

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LATERAL SITE THREE, UH, THAT IS IN KAUFMAN COUNTY LOCATED JUST NORTH OF, UH, CRANDALL OFF OF FM ONE 48.

AND THAT, UH, WILD CAT, I HAD ADDITION WILD CAT RANCH, CAT RANCH AT BIRDS.

THE ENTRANCE THAT GOES IN UP TO THE SCHOOL THAT YOU, I MEAN, YOU'RE RIGHT BESIDE THE LIGHT WHEN YOU'RE ON THE, YOU DRIVE RIGHT BESIDE IT, THAT ONE IS, UH, BE AN ENGINEERED OR THEY'RE STILL IN PROCESS AND ENGINEER AND YOUR BUTTER.

THEY'RE IN THE FINAL PHASES OF IT.

UH, IN THIS, YOU HAVE A SHEET OF THIS IN HERE IN YOUR HANDOUT, TOO.

THIS WAS FROM FREESE AND NICHOLS.

THEY'RE THE ENGINEERING FROM DOING IT.

AND THEY HAVE ESTIMATED COSTS ON IT OF A 2.6, FIVE, 8 MILLION TO DO A WHAT'S CONSIDERED A STATE UPGRADE, WHICH IS EXACTLY THE SAME THING AS A FEDERAL REHAB.

ONLY IT'S ALL STATE MONEY INVOLVED WITH IT.

AND THE PROCESS WHEN YOU JUST HAVE THE STATE MONEY IS A LOT FASTER, UH, OUR EFFECT THAT YOUR PROJECT, HAVING THIS READY TO GO OUT TO BE IT'S BY LATE SPRING, EARLY SUMMER, AND THEY WILL BE COMING, OR I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE ME OR WHO WILL BE COMING TOO, BEFORE WE ALL, OR A SIGNATURE ON, UM, AN AGREEMENT FOR THE COUNTY'S FUNDING.

PART OF THIS, WHICH ON THIS ON A STATE UPGRADE IS ALSO 1.7, 5% OF THE PROJECT WILL BE THE LOCAL FUNDS, WHICH WILL THE, THE COUNTY'S PART.

UH, THEY TELL ME BY MARCH 31ST, THEY WANT A SIGNED AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY ON THIS SITE.

I DON'T KNOW WHO'S GOING TO BE COMING BEFORE YOU OWN THAT, BUT, AND THERE AGAIN ON THAT SITE, WE NEED A, UH, UPDATED TO MURCHIE ACTION PLAN AND, UH, UH, COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OPINION ON THE LANE RIGHTS AND EASEMENTS.

AND MY LAST ONE I'VE GOT ON HERE WILL BE A LOWER EAST FORK, LATERAL SIDE TO THAT IS OVER ON, UH, OFF OF FM SEVEN 41, JUST, UH, TRYING TO THINK OF THE NAME OF THAT ROAD.

HE GOES BACK IN THERE TO IT.

OKAY.

YEAH.

ANYWAY, I CAN'T THINK OF IT ANYWAY.

IT'S JUST NORTH OF, UH, IT'S ALSO A NORTH CRANDALL BETWEEN CRANDALL AND FORNEY.

THIS IS KIND OF A, A, A FALL BACK PSAT.

THEY'RE CURRENTLY DOING THE ENGINEERING ON THE IT, UH, HOMELESS LIST.

AND THIS LIST RIGHT HERE, THERE'S THIS COVERS THE WHOLE STATE OF TEXAS, WHAT THEY'RE DOING, WHAT THE STATE BOARD IS DOING RIGHT NOW.

AND WHEN THEY THEY'VE ALREADY HAD MADISON IN CHARGE OF THIS, STEVE BEDNARZ, UH, HE'S ALREADY TOLD ME THEY'VE HAD A COUPLE OF THESE THAT THEY'VE DROPPED OUT FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER.

EITHER THE SPONSORS COULDN'T COME UP WITH THE MONEY OR SOME PROBLEMS SOMEWHERE IN THE OTHER.

AND IF THEY HAVE SOME THAT DO DROP OUT, THEY WANT TO HAVE SOME REPAIR PROJECTS READY TO GO.

CAUSE THIS, THIS MONEY THAT THEY'RE USING RIGHT NOW IS PART OF THAT $150 MILLION THAT WAS SET BY THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE TWO YEARS AGO.

AND THEY'RE GETTING AT THE BOTTOM OF THE BUCKET ON IT.

THEY'RE ABOUT TO RUN OUT OF MONEY, BUT HE'S ONE OF THESE, USE IT OR LOSE IT DEALS, RIGHT? AND THEY'RE TRYING TO GET SOME SITES LINED UP THAT NEED, THAT NEED TO WORK ON THEM.

BUT, UH, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE SMALLER PROJECTS.

THEY'RE NOT THESE FIVE, $10 MILLION PROJECTS, UH, IN LOWER EAST FORK.

TWO IS ONE THAT IS A, UH, IT'S UH, JUST DESIGNED IS A REPAIR PROJECT.

IT HAS SOME SLOPE SLIDES ON THE BACK OF IT.

IT HAS WAVE ACTION EROSION ON THE FRONT, UH, IN GENERAL, JUST NEEDS SOME TLC DONE TO IT.

A COST ESTIMATE ON IT IS GOING TO BE BETWEEN, UH, SOMEWHERE AROUND A MILLION DOLLARS, GIVE OR TAKE A HUNDRED THOUSAND ON THAT.

AND I'VE JUST LIKED TO GET

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THE, THERE THERE'S NO ACTION NEEDED ON THIS AT ALL, BUT I JUST KIND OF LIKE GET THE COURTS, UH, HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THAT.

IF THEY WOULD HAVE THE MONEY OR WOULD WANT TO DO ANOTHER, UH, REPAIR PROJECT, THIS WOULD BE A SAME TYPE PROJECTS THAT WAS, THIS WAS DONE ON, UH, UPBRINGINGS FORKS 11 AND SEE CREEK NANNY.

IT'S JUST REPAIR OF THE DAM MISSION.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BRING IT UP TO HIGH HAZARD STANDARDS OR ANYTHING IT'S JUST TO FIX THE PROBLEMS THAT IT HAS RIGHT NOW.

I WOULD IMAGINE THAT OUR, OUR PATTERN HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, PAY ME NOW OR PAY ME LATER, PROBABLY MORE PRACTICAL TO DO IT NOW THAN LATER.

UM, I WAS JUST GOING TO PROPOSE IF I COULD SIT DOWN WITH OWEN AND LOOK AT LIKE CONTRACT ADMINISTRATIONS PERCENTAGES AND THEIR ESTIMATE, AND THEN BRING BACK TO Y'ALL, UM, JUST KIND OF ACTUAL BUDGET NUMBERS OF WHAT IT WOULD COST FOR THESE THREE PROJECTS, FOR SURE THAT THEY'RE WANTING TO GO ON.

AND THEN IN THE MEANTIME, ONCE I GET THE DOCUMENTATION, WE CAN HAVE THE ATTORNEY AND START WORKING ON THE ATTORNEY LETTER AND THE EMERGENCY ACTION PLAN, BUT I'LL BRING IT BACK TO Y'ALL WHAT, WHAT THE ACTUAL BUDGET IMPACT WOULD BE MINUS OUR CONTRACT ADMINISTRATOR.

I MEAN, THE 5% ON THAT, THERE'S THE FEDERAL DOLLARS AND STATE DOLLARS ARE NOT THAT RELEVANT TO US BECAUSE THEN THAT WAY YOU WILL GET AN ACTUAL WHAT IT WOULD REALLY COST US.

OKAY.

THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

GOOD FOR YOU.

THAT WOULD WORK FOR ME.

GREAT.

ALSO, I'D LIKE TO THANK THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT FOR LANG OUR DISTRICT TO USE YOUR CANDIDATE FACILITY AS A MEETING PLACE.

UH, SINCE OUR OFFICE IN FORNEY IS BEING SHUT DOWN DUE TO THE COVID, THAT'S A FEDERAL BUILDING AND LIKE, KEEP THE DOORS LOCKED TO ACCOMMODATE, YOU KNOW, HOLD ANYBODY IN.

AND WE WE'VE BEEN USING THE CONFERENCE ROOM UPSTAIRS AND WE APPRECIATE THAT.

YEAH.

OVER GLAD TO DO IT.

AND WE MEET THE FIRST WEDNESDAY OF EACH MONTH THAT Y'ALL WANT TO COME UP AND SIT IN ON SOME OF OUR DISCUSSION.

WHAT WE TALK ABOUT IS MOSTLY WHAT I'VE JUST TALKED ABOUT TODAY.

SO ANYWAY, APPRECIATE Y'ALL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY.

THERE'S NO ACTION ON THAT ITEM, OBVIOUSLY.

[9. Constable Woodall; Discuss/Consider lateral transfer of James Stroud from Kaufman Sheriffs office to Constable's office Pet. 3.]

SO, UH, NEXT ITEM, WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM CONSTABLE WOODALL, DISCUSS, CONSIDER A LATERAL TRANSFER OF JAMES STROUD FROM COFFIN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO CONSTABLE OFFICER PRECINCT THREE.

ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH THIS I'M POSITIVE ARIEL THIS MORNING? GOOD.

UH, JAMES STROUD IS CURRENTLY EMPLOYED WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

UM, HE'LL HAVE 14 YEARS, UH, A SERVICE THERE IN MARCH.

UM, HE'S HELD SEVERAL DIFFERENT POSITIONS THERE, INCLUDING, UH, SUPERVISORY DECISIONS.

I THINK A FEW OF Y'ALL KNOW, KNOW HIM.

UM, I BELIEVE IF THIS IS APPROVED, HE'LL, UH, PLAY A VITAL ROLE IN, UH, PRECINCT THREE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE.

HE'S PRETTY POPULAR WITH EVERYBODY LIKES HIM.

I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT I'M THE SAME WAY.

RIGHT? WELL, HE WAS VERY, HE WAS VERY INVOLVED IN OUR, UH, CRIME WATCH PROGRAM THERE IN ELMO AND, UH, MADE A GOOD IMPACT ON THAT.

AND, UH, SINCE HE'S NOT DOING THAT ANYMORE, IT'S CONTINUED BECAUSE OF HIS EFFORTS.

SO IT'S BEEN REALLY GOOD FOR US.

AND THAT EXPERIENCE THAT HE BRINGS WITH THE, THE, UH, THE TRAINING COORDINATOR AND THE DISPATCH LIEUTENANT'S INVALUABLE.

YEP.

AND YOU PROBABLY SEE HIM BACK OVER THERE AGAIN.

OH, I HOPE HE CAN.

HE, HE WOULD LOVE TO BE SHERIFF.

I'M LOSING A GOOD GUY.

UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR CONSTABLE WOODALL? IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, UH, IS THERE A MOTION, UH, I'VE SPOKE WITH, UH, JERRY ABOUT THAT AND THERE IS ROOM IN THIS BUDGET FOR HIM.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THE MOTION TO PROVE THAT, OKAY.

WE HAVE MOTION COMMISSIONED BARBARA PROVE THAT LATERAL TRANSFERS ARE SECOND I'LL SECOND.

SHAKE THEM.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED.

NO MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

GOOD TO SEE YA.

ALL

[10. Monique Hunter; Discuss/Consider motion to approve plat for Elmo Hills Addition located in Pet. 3.]

RIGHT.

COMING UP FOR A DOUBLE HEADER, MONIQUE DISCUSS CONSIDERED MOTION TO APPROVE PLAT FOR ELMO HILLS ADDITION LOCATED IN PRECINCT THREE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO, UH, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE REQUIRES THAT IF YOU SPLIT A LOT INTO TWO OR MORE FOR SALE, YOU WOULD HAVE TO PLANT IT.

SO THIS, UH, CONSISTS OF TWO LOTS, EACH LOT IS 4.1, ONE ACRES, UH, LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF COUNTY ROAD THREE, 12 AND THREE 13.

UM, INITIALLY THE FIRE

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MARSHALL HAD, UM, PUT IN HIS LETTER THAT IT WOULD REQUIRE THE FIRE FLOW, BUT AFTER RE-EVALUATING IT, HE HAS CHANGED THAT LETTER AND HE WILL GET ME A NEW DRAFT ON THAT.

SO YOUR MOMENT, SO WE JUST NEED TO GET THAT APPROVED SO THEY CAN RECORD IT QUESTIONS.

UH, IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE PLAT FOR ELMO HILLS ADDITION LOCATED IN PRECINCT THREE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION COMMISSIONER BARBERS, OR SECOND, SECOND, SECOND ONE COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THAT WAS IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO MOTION CARRIES ITEM 11, DISCUSS,

[11. Monique Hunter; Discuss/Consider motion to approve plat for Moses Addition located in Pet. 4.]

CONSIDER MOTION TO APPROVE PLATFORM FOR MOSES EDITION LOCATED IN PRECINCT.

OKAY.

UM, THIS IS ON FM 26, UH, 13 PRECINCT FOUR.

UH, THE GENTLEMEN CREATED THREE LOTS OUT OF HIS PARCEL.

UM, ONE LOTS, NINE ACRES, ONE'S 11 AND ONE 12.

UM, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE SAYS IF THEY'RE ALL 10 ACRES OR MORE, THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE PLANTED, BUT BECAUSE ONE OF THE ACRES WAS NINE.

HE DID HAVE TO PLAT.

SO HE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS, WENT THROUGH THE APPROVALS AND, UM, RANDY'S LETTER AS WELL IN THE BACK WILL BE CHANGED OUT.

HE HAD A WHOLE PILE AT ONE TIME AND IT WAS A LITTLE BIT MIXED UP BETWEEN SOME OF THE, IN THE REGS.

SO WE'LL CHANGE THAT LETTER OUT IN THE PACKET QUESTIONS.

NOPE.

IS THERE A MOTION? SO MOVED JUDGE.

WE HAVE A MOTION FOR A APPROVAL FROM COMMISSIONER IN CASE IS YOUR SECOND SEGMENT COMMISSIONER BARBARA DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

MONIQUE COMMISSIONER

[12. Commissioner Cates; Discuss/consider standardizing job descriptions for Road and Bridge Department Administrative Positions and setting base salary for Precinct Clerk.]

CAGE, DISCUSS, CONSIDER STANDARDIZING JOB DESCRIPTIONS FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE DEPARTMENT ADMINISTRATIVE POSITIONS AND SETTING BASE SALARY FOR PRECINCT CLERK.

SO JUDGE, I'M GOING TO DEFER TO, UH, ATTORNEY BONNER ON THIS, BUT THIS IS A REALLY, JUST A FINALIZATION OF A PROCESS THAT, THAT THE COMMISSIONERS UNDERTOOK LAST YEAR, WHERE WE, UH, WE RESTRUCTURED AND, AND MODERNIZED OUR ROAD AND BRIDGE OPERATIONS AND STAFFING, UH, AT THAT TIME WE HAD NOT FINISHED, UH, OR DID NOT INCLUDE THE ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF IN, IN OUR OFFICES.

UH, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THE MINISTER AND THE BUDGET FOR THE PRECINCTS IS, UH, IT'S ALWAYS A CHALLENGE IT'S ALWAYS ATTACHED AND, UH, TASKING.

AND, UH, SO WE ARE, UH, WE'RE JUST FINISHING THE, THE PROCESS WE STARTED LAST YEAR.

UH, ADDITIONALLY PRECINCT FOUR DUE TO THE HEAVY VOLUME, UH, REALLY OF CULVERT WORK THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH OUR, UM, OUR BOND PROJECTS.

UM, WE ADDED A, A PRECINCT CLERK POSITION.

UM, WE TOOK THAT OUT OF OUR, UH, OF OUR VACANT STAFFING AND, UH, I ASKED, UH, HR, UM, UH, SEVERAL MONTHS AGO TO, UH, UH, WE SUBMITTED SOME DRAFT, UH, POSITION DESCRIPTIONS.

AND I ASK HR TO POLISH THOSE AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE, UM, UH, THAT THEY COMPORTED WITH THE COUNTIES, UH, TYPICAL JOB DESCRIPTION.

SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DEB AND LET HER JUST FINISH UP.

SO WHAT I DID WAS I TOOK THOSE DRAFT JOB DESCRIPTIONS AND JUST KIND OF IT'S MR. KATES HAD POLISHED THEM UP, UM, MADE THEM CONSISTENT AND, UH, CHANGED SOME OF THE LANGUAGE.

I SENT THOSE OUT TO YOU A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO FOR COMMENTS OR CRITICISMS, AND, UM, GOT NONE.

SO CRITICISMS THAT IS GOT SOME COMMENTS, UM, THE PRECINCT ADMIN CLERK POSITION.

WE ALSO NEED TO SET A BASE SALARY ON THAT, WHICH THE CURRENT CLERK IS MAKING 36,000.

SO WE FIGURED THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A GOOD PLACE TO START AS FAR AS BASE SALARY FOR ANYONE ELSE NEEDED TO ADD THAT CLERK POSITION THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE THESE GO ACROSS ALL FOUR PRECINCTS, THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS AND THE, AND THE DUTIES, OF COURSE Y'ALL CAN ALWAYS OTHER DUTIES ASSIGNED, BUT, UH, THAT'S BASICALLY WHERE WE ARE.

UH, SO I GUESS WHAT'S THE CLARIFICATION, WHAT IS THE BUDGET IMPACT ON THIS? BE NO BUDGET IMPACT, UNLESS SOMEONE ADDED THAT SECOND POSITION MADDEN, HE JUST TOOK KIDS FROM HIS MAINTENANCE STAFF, BUT YEAH, WE, UH, RIGHT, RIGHT, CORRECT.

AND, UH, THIS PARTICULAR POSITION BECAME, UM, AS I SAID, IT'S RELATED TO THE SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN VOLUME OF WORK ADMINISTRATIVE WORK, UH, PUBLIC COORDINATION RELATED TO A ROAD AND BRIDGE BOND PRAC PACKAGE.

UH, MANY OF OUR ROADS HAVE

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MANY, MANY, MANY, UH, RESIDENTIAL CULVERT ISSUES, UH, CULVERTS THAT HAVE LONG NEEDED TO BE REPLACED.

SO WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF, UH, THE CIVIL DIVISION, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO, TO CREATE A PROGRAM WHERE WHEREBY WE EVEN OFFER A PAYMENT PLAN, SO THAT CITIZENS WHO ARE UNABLE TO FOR THEIR OWN DRIVEWAY CULVERTS OR REPLACEMENT CULVERTS ARE ABLE TO, TO, UM, WORK WITH THE COUNTY AND GET THAT DONE.

SO THAT SORT OF TRACKING AND THE PAYMENT ISSUES ALL, UH, ALL MORE THAN JUSTIFIED THE CREATION OF THIS, THIS, UH, DEDICATED CLERK POSITION.

IN THE MEANTIME, WE HAVE ASSIGNED A NUMBER OF OTHER SPECIAL PROJECTS TO THAT POSITION.

SO THE WORKLOAD'S ALREADY INCREASED FOR, FOR INSTANCE, WE ARE UTILIZING THAT POSITION TO, UH, WORK WITH THE GIS STAFFING OUT OF MONIQUE'S OFFICE, UH, AND TO FORMALLY ONCE AND FOR ALL ESTABLISHED CITY LIMITS, UH, UH, DESIGNATIONS WITHIN OUR PRECINCT SO THAT WE CAN BE, UH, IN AGREEMENT WITH OUR CITIES AND AFFIRMATIVELY ESTABLISH WHERE COUNTY MAINTENANCE STARTS AND STOPS AND SOME OF THESE AREAS.

SO, SO IT'S REALLY A PRODUCTIVE POSITION.

AND AS I SAID, IT'S NO BUDGET IMPACT, UH, UM, WHATSOEVER, NO CHANGE.

SO, UH, I, UH, ABSENT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, I'D MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS AS WRITTEN JUDGE.

UH, WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT STANDARDIZATION OF JOB DESCRIPTIONS.

IS THERE A SECOND MOTION WITH COMMISSIONER IN CASE WE HAVE A SECOND OF COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

UH, ITEM 13,

[13. Jerry Dean; Discuss/Consider extension for COVID time off.]

JERRY DEAN DISCUSS CONSIDER EXTENSION FOR COVID TIME OFF.

OKAY.

OKAY.

GUYS, COMMISSIONERS.

SO, YOU KNOW, THE OFFICIAL NAME FOR THIS IS THE FAMILIES FIRST CORRESPONDENCE RESPONSE AXLE.

SO FFC R A A, THIS EXPIRED ON 12 ONE.

SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING THE COURT TO DO IS EXTEND THIS UNTIL THE END OF MARCH 31ST, UM, THE GOVERNMENT OR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS, HAS GIVEN OPPORTUNITIES TO BE KIND OF A VOLUNTEER BASIS.

UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE COUNTY ACTIVITY RIGHT NOW, WE HAD SOME VERY SHORT PART OF A PAYROLL THAT RAN INTO JANUARY.

WE HAD 40 HOURS OF PEOPLE THAT WERE, THAT WERE FALLING INTO THIS LOOP.

UM, WE'VE GONE THROUGH WITH, WITH, WITH DEB'S ASSISTANCE AND WITH HR AND CLEANED UP THE PROCESS.

SO AS YOU KNOW, AS WE CAME OUT OF THE GATE WITH THIS, IT WAS A LITTLE CHAOTIC, UH, BACK IN MARCH.

SO WE HAVE NOW GOT A PROCESS IN PLACE FOR, FOR THE APPLICATION.

SO A DEPARTMENT HEAD OR ELECTED OFFICIAL WILL, WILL FILL OUT THE PROPER PAPERWORK WITH HR.

HR WILL THEN GO THROUGH THE APPROVAL PROCESS, NOTIFIED BACK SO WE CAN HAVE IT TRACKING AND ALSO IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE TREASURER'S OFFICE.

SO THE ASK IS TO EXTEND THIS UNTIL THE END OF MARCH 31ST, IT FALLS INTO THOSE SAME CATEGORIES.

SO THE FIRST CATEGORY IS THE EMPLOYEE IS EITHER, IS EITHER EEL OR QUARANTINED.

THE SECOND QUOTE CATEGORY IS THEY'RE HAVING TO TAKE CARE OF SOMEONE THAT'S EITHER ILL OR QUARANTINED.

AND THE THIRD CATEGORY IS THAT THEIR CHILD IS HAVING TO BE TAKEN CARE OF BECAUSE SCHOOL SHUT DOWN OR CHILDCARE FACILITY SHUT DOWN.

SO THOSE THREE CATEGORIES ARE WHAT QUALIFIES, JUST FOR CLARITY.

IF SOMEONE IS HOME WORKING FROM HOME BECAUSE THEIR OFFICE HAS HAD TO BE SHUT DOWN, THAT IS NOT FCRA THAT IS WORKED FROM HOME.

THAT'S WHERE WE'VE HAD SOME CONFUSION IN THE PAST.

AND WE HAVE THAT CLARITY NOW.

SO THE ASK IS TO EXTEND THIS TO MARCH 31ST.

WHAT'S, WHAT'S YOUR DIFFERENT REALLY THE BIG DIFFERENCE IS THAT, UH, THE HR DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO BE THE TRIGGER IN THE SOL.

THEY'RE GOING TO, THEY'RE GOING TO BE SCREENING TO MAKE SURE THAT SOMEBODY WORKING AT HOME ISN'T BEING CODED COVID PAY.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

CORRECT.

IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE TREASURES.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE ULTIMATE, THE TREASURER'S OFFICE IS WHO RELEASES THE SWITCH FOR APPROVAL ON PAYROLL.

SO MAKING SURE THAT THE PROCESS IS A CLOSED LOOP, UH, QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

THEN, UH, THE REQUEST, THE MOTION WOULD BE, UH, TO EXTEND OUR COVID TIME OFF POLICY, UH, THROUGH MARCH THE 31ST.

CORRECT.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

WE HAD THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER CAGES OR A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED.

NO MOTION CARRIES

[14. Deborah Bonner; Discuss/consider changes to Personnel Policy Manual clarifying progression of using paid or unpaid leave time.]

NEXT UP.

DAN BONNER DISCUSS, CONSIDER CHANGES TO PERSONNEL POLICY MANUAL CLARIFYING PROGRESSION OF USING PAID OR UNPAID LEAVE TIME.

SO WE HAD SOME CONFUSION, LONGSTANDING CONFUSION.

I BELIEVE IN THE COUNTY, AS FAR AS, UM, PAID UNPAID LEAVE, ESPECIALLY IN RELATION TO THE FAMILY MEDICAL LEAVE ACT AND THE VENMO FAMILY

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MEDICAL LEAVE ACT, THE ASSESS SPECIFIES, SORRY THAT YOU TAKE ALL PAID LEAVE BEFORE YOU GO ON UNPAID LEAVE.

WE WERE HAVING QUITE A FEW EMPLOYEES THAT WERE TAKING FMLA FOR 10 OR 12 WEEKS, AND THEN THEY WOULD COME BACK AND THEY HAD 300 HOURS OF COMP TIME THAT THEY STILL HADN'T TAKEN.

UM, SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE REVAMPED THE POLICY, THE PERSONNEL POLICY TO MAKE IT CLEAR THE ORDER IN WHICH LEAVES SHOULD BE USED SO THAT THERE AREN'T AS MANY QUESTIONS AS THERE HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST.

AND, UM, IT, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF GETTING PEOPLE, UNDERSTANDING THAT, YOU KNOW, FMLA, ISN'T A FREE VACATION FOLLOWED BY, YOU KNOW, YOUR COMP TIME LATER.

IT ALL NEEDS TO BE TAKEN BEFORE YOU TAKE UNPAID TIME.

SO THAT'S WHAT THIS CHANGE IN THE POLICY MANUAL IS.

AND IT MAKES SOME LITTLE BIT OF A NUANCE VERSUS WHETHER YOU'RE SICK OR WHETHER YOU'RE MILITARY LEAVE OR WHATEVER.

BUT FOR THE MOST PART, IT JUST LAYS OUT WHICH ORDER IN WHICH YOUR LEAVES SHOULD BE TAKEN WITH FMLA AND APPLIES TO ALL PAID AND UNPAID LEAVE.

BUT PRIMARILY WHAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON IS LIKE, IF MLA, OKAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, MY ONLY CONCERN IS THIS IS YOU SET PRIORITIES, SICK LEAVE COMP TIME, VACATION TIME.

AND IF SOMEONE HAS SICK LEAVE COMP TIME AND VACATION TIME, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE THEIR VACATION TIME.

IF IT'S NOT TAKEN BY A CERTAIN DATE.

WELL, IF THEY'RE OUT ON LEAVE, THE VACATION TIME KIND OF GOES IN.

CAUSE THEY DON'T ACCRUE MORE VACATION TIME IF THEY'RE NOT BEING PAID.

SO IT KIND OF ROLLS IN THERE VACATION TIME.

YOU HAVE TO TAKE YOU BY A CERTAIN, WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME.

RIGHT.

BUT VACATION TIME, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FAMILY MEDICAL LEAVE IS THE THIRD PRIORITY BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO TAKE YOUR SICK TIME AND YOUR COMP TIME BEFORE YOU TAKE VACATIONS.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT IF WE HAVE, THERE'S A DATE THAT THEY LOSE THEIR VACATION TIME AND THEY'RE OFF ON FMLA OR THEY'RE OFFERED WHATEVER, I THINK WE CAN MAKE SOME.

YEAH.

CAUSE I MEAN, YOU JUST DON'T WANT THEM TO LOSE ON AN INDIVIDUAL PATIENT.

YOU CAN GRANT THE GRANT AND I UNDERSTAND THAT CAUSE THAT'S WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN IF IT WASN'T CLARIFIED.

BUT I JUST WANT TO BRING THAT OUT THAT WE HAVE THE LATITUDE OR WHATEVER THAT WE CAN TAKE CARE OF OUR PEOPLE.

YES.

YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE LATITUDE.

OKAY.

DEB, DID WE HAVE TO DO ANY RETROACTIVE ADJUSTMENTS? WE'RE NOT DOING ANY RETROACTIVE ADJUSTMENTS.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO PUT THIS IN PLACE FOR GOING FORWARD.

IT, THIS WASN'T CLEAR IN THE HANDBOOK, IN THE ORDER THAT THEY WERE TAKING THEM.

I AGREE JERRY WAS, BUT JUST FOR CLARITY TO THE OTHER THING THAT THIS APPLIES TO IS WE HAVE A SICKLING POOL IN A WAY THAT YOU PULL DOWN FROM THE SICKLY BULL WAS THERE WAS ALSO SOME AMBIGUITY THERE.

SO THIS IS CLEAN SET UP AS WELL.

THIS IS COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION.

REMEMBER? YEAH.

AND IT, THIS WASN'T CLEAR.

I MEAN, I THINK I'LL BE JUMPING ON THAT.

THAT IT'S AS IMPORTANT IF IT MAKES SENSE NOW TO ME IT NEEDS TO BE CLEAR.

YEAH.

IT NEEDS TO BE NO, YOU KNOW, LATENT AMBIGUITIES.

YEAH.

BUT VERY GOOD JOB ON THAT.

AND YOU DID TOO.

I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU.

THANK YOU.

UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO.

OKAY.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CHANGES IN THE PERSONNEL POLICY AS PRESENTED? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION WHERE THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DEB.

NEXT

[15. Raylan Smith; Receive construction updates regarding the Kaufman County Justice Center and the Kaufman County Pet Adoption Center.]

UP.

UH, RAYLAND RECEIVED CONSTRUCTION UPDATES REGARDING KAUFMAN COUNTY JUSTICE CENTER AND COFFIN COUNTY PET ADOPTION CENTER.

GOOD MORNING.

SO JUST REAL QUICK TO KIND OF LET Y'ALL KNOW.

WHAT'S BEEN POSTED IN REGARDS TO THE JUSTICE CENTER AND ANIMAL ADOPTION.

I WENT THROUGH THE BID DOCUMENTS THE OTHER DAY AND JUST WANTED TO PULL OUT A LOT OF THE, UM, THE PERTINENT DATES THAT HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN POSTED IN THE BID DOCUMENTS SO THAT YOU KNOW, WHAT THE DATES THE CONTRACTORS ARE WORKING OFF OF.

SO OBVIOUSLY WE WILL HAVE THE PRE-PROPOSAL AT 10:00 AM ON JANUARY THE 21ST.

WE WILL HAVE ALL BIDS IN BY FEBRUARY THE FOURTH.

UM, WE PLAN TO AWARD CONTRACTS BY FEBRUARY THE 23RD, UM, WHICH MEANS WITHIN FIVE DAYS WE'LL HAVE ALL OF OUR INSURANCE AND PERFORMANCE AND PAYMENT BONDS.

ALL OF THAT TOGETHER.

UM, COMPANIES WILL HAVE EVERYTHING, ALL THEIR SUBMITTALS INTO THE COUNTY BY MARCH 31ST.

AND WE WILL BEGIN CONSTRUCTION BY THE END OF MARCH BY MARCH 31ST.

YOU'LL ACTUALLY SEE THE GROUND TURNING OUT THEIR, UM, PROJECTED COMPLETION DATE FOR THE PET ADOPTION CENTER

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IS DECEMBER 31ST, 2021.

AND JUSTICE CENTER IS APRIL 29TH, 2022.

SO BASED ON THEIR TIME SCHEDULE AND THE DURATION FOR EACH CONTRACTOR, THOSE ARE YOUR DATES.

SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS INTERESTING.

AND I WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND JUST PULL THOSE DOWN FOR YOU BECAUSE THOSE WERE DATES AND THE EXPECTATIONS ON THE CONTRACTORS MOVING FORWARD.

SO PRETTY EXCITING STUFF.

UH, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UM, SO

[16. Raylan Smith; Discuss and consider Gallagher Construction Services proposal to relocate existing fiber conduit for the construction of the new Pet Adoption Facility, in the amount of $29,379; utilizing TIPS Purchasing Cooperative Contract #181101.]

NEXT UP IS DISCUSSED, CONSIDERED GALLAGHER CONSTRUCTION SERVICES PROPOSAL TO RELOCATE EXISTING FIBER CONDUIT, UH, FOR THE PET ADOPTION CENTER IN THE AMOUNT OF 29,379.

OKAY.

SO WE WILL BE USING, OR MY PROPOSAL IS TO USE A PURCHASING COOPERATIVE FOR, UM, CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, GALLAGHER TO PREPARE A NEW LOCATION FOR THE CENTURY LINK FIBER THAT IS GOING THAT RIGHT NOW IS RUNNING DIRECTLY UNDER WHERE THE PET ADOPTION CENTER NEEDS TO BE PLACED.

SO FOR CONSTRUCTION TO BEGIN MARCH 31ST, THIS FIBER HAS TO BE MOVED.

SO WE'RE IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW OF GETTING THE WORK ORDER TO ACTUALLY HAVE CENTURY LINK, COME OUT AND MOVE IT.

AND WE'VE ALREADY SPOKEN TO THE ENGINEERS WITH CENTURY LINK.

AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE EVERYTHING DONE ON OUR PART SO THAT WE'RE NOT THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO SLOW THEM DOWN.

SO THIS WOULD ACTUALLY PREPARE THE MOVE FOR CENTURY LINK.

OKAY.

QUESTIONS? NO, IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO, UH, TO APPROVE GALLAGHER'S CONSTRUCTION SERVICES PROPOSAL TO RELOCATE FIBER CONDUIT? YES.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION WHERE THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER CAGE DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

NEXT

[17. Discuss/Consider line item transfers.]

UP THE AUDITOR WITH LINE ITEM TRANSFERS.

THESE WERE EMAILED TO YOU EARLIER.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ONE ON TRANSFERS OR BUDGET MOVEMENTS? ARE THE QUESTIONS FOR THE AUDITOR ABOUT LINE ENTER TRANSFERS? IF THERE ARE NONE, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM TRANSFERS IS SUBMITTED IN MOTION.

WE HAVE THE MOTION COMMISSIONER HUNT.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES, UH, AUTOMATE

[18. Discuss/Consider claims for payment.]

TEAM DISCUSS, CONSIDER CLAIMS FOR PAYMENTS.

YES.

YOUR, UH, CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT ARE 2 MILLION, $228,039 AND 23 CENTS A PAYROLL OF 1,000,308 81,600 1855 FOR A TOTAL OF 3,609,657 78 78.

YES, SIR.

QUESTIONS FOR THE AUDITOR ABOUT CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT FOR NO QUESTIONS.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED SO MOVED? WE HAD A MOTION COMMISSIONER IN CAGES OR A SECOND AND A SECOND.

SECOND PERMISSION.

PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED.

NO MOTION CARRIES NEXT ITEM.

UH, DISCUSS,

[19. Discuss/Consider exiting regular meeting and entering into executive session.]

CONSIDER EXITING REGULAR MEETING AND ENTERING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

IS THERE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER HUNT.

DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES WE'RE IN EXECUTIVE

[20. Executive Session: Pursuant to Section 551.072 of the Texas Government Code, the Commissioners Court will meet in closed session to discuss real estate negotiations.]

SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION FIVE 51.072 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.

THE COMMISSIONERS COURT WILL MEET IN CLOSED SESSION TO DISCUSS REAL ESTATE NEGOTIATIONS.

AND, UH, AS SOON AS SHE TELLS HER SHE'S READY.

YOU READY? BOBBY? UH,

[21. Discuss/Consider exiting executive session and entering back into regular meeting.]

OKAY.

UH, UH, LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION BACK INTO REGULAR SESSION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND COMMISSIONER? WE HAVE A MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS GO BACK AND RIGOR SESSION A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER HUNT.

THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, UH, THAT MOTION CARRIES WITH NO

[22. Discuss/Consider taking any action needed as a result of executive session.]

ACTION TAKEN AS AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

THEN I'LL MAKE

[23. Adjourn Regular Meeting]

A MOTION TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING.

WE HAVE A MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND FROM THE FINISHER CAGE DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE OPPOSED.

NO MOTION CARRIES.