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I GUESS

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THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE COP AND COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT IS

[Call to Order]

CALLED TO ORDER IT'S TUESDAY, JANUARY 26, 2021, WHICH IS 9:00 AM IN THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING ROOM.

WE'RE IN, IN THE ANNEX TODAY.

UH, WE'LL START OFF WITH THE INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, UH, OFFERED BY COMMISSIONER, UH, HUNT, PLEASE STAND.

YEP, FATHER, WE THANK YOU LORD FOR THIS AWESOME DAY THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US TODAY, FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THE PROTECTION HAS BEEN PLACED OVER EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US TO KEEP US SAFE IN THE WAYS OF YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS THROUGHOUT ALL THINGS, FATHER, WE ASK YOUR BLESSING UPON THIS TIME FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS EACH AND EVERY WHEN HE'S COMMISSIONERS AND THE JUDGE TO MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICES, RIGHT DECISIONS FOR OUR COUNTY FOLLOW.

WE PRAY OVER OUR COUNTY EVERYWHERE THAT AVERY IS TO BE DONE.

AND WE GIVE YOU ALL THE PRAISE HONOR AND GLORY IN THE WONDERFUL NAME OF JESUS CHRIST.

HEY MAN, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR GOD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY.

THIS IS THE TIME THAT WE WOULD NORMALLY, UH, RECEIVE, UH, COMMENTS FROM VISITORS.

I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS AND I KNOW IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE HAVE ANYBODY HERE ASKING TO SPEAK TO THE COURT, UM, ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE,

[1. ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.]

UH, JUST UPDATE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, THERE'S BEEN A SLEW OF CORRESPONDENCE, OF COURSE, GOING BACK AND FORTH ABOUT THE HUB.

UH, THE VACCINATION HUB THAT, THAT THE COUNTY HAS ESTABLISHED.

UH, WE HAVE EVERYTHING IN PLACE.

UM, THE FACILITY IS, UH, IS BEEN OFFERED BY ATTORNEY VALLEY COMMUNITY COLLEGE.

THAT'S THAT? THAT'S THE HEALTH SCIENCE CENTER FACILITY THEY HAVE THERE IN TERRIBLE, UH, EXCELLENT IDEAL LOCATION HAS EVERY, YOU KNOW, IT'S A CLINICAL PLACE.

AND SO IT HAS EVERYTHING WE WOULD NEED.

UM, UH, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT HAS GOT, UH, THEY'VE GOT STAFFING LINED UP, UH, AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PRETTY WELL SCHEDULED OUT FOR THE FIRST COUPLE OF WEEKS.

IT'S GONNA REQUIRE, UH, SOME NOTICE OF WHENEVER WE RECEIVE VACCINES, IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF NOTICE, UH, TO GET STAFF ON BOARD.

UH, YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GIVE THEM AT LEAST A DAY'S NOTICE IN ORDER TO GET THE THING RUNNING.

SO WE HAVE EVERYTHING WE NEED EXCEPT ONE PRECIOUS, JUST ONE LITTLE PIECE MISSING.

AND WE DON'T YET HAVE ANY VACCINES.

WE ARE HOPEFUL THAT WE WILL RECEIVE, UH, AN ALLOCATION OF VACCINES NEXT WEEK, BUT WE DON'T KNOW THAT FOR SURE YET.

WE ACTUALLY PROBABLY WILL KNOW THAT AND THEY DON'T NORMALLY PUBLISH IT OR DON'T KNOW NORMALLY NOTIFY THE STATE.

DOESN'T NOTIFY THAT UNTIL SUNDAY.

SO WE HOPE TO KNOW SUNDAY IT WILL HAVE VACCINES.

AND IF WE DO HAVE MANY, WE WILL HAVE Y'ALL ARE FAMILIAR, THE REGISTRATION PROCESS, I THINK.

AND, UM, SO IT'S KIND OF A LONG-WINDED ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE, BUT, UH, UH, I KNOW YOU HAVE ALL HEARD FROM PEOPLE AND EVERYBODY IS, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE UP AND RUNNING WITH A REGISTRATION SITE.

UH, AND AGAIN, WE WILL, PEOPLE WHO HAVE REGISTERED WILL GET AN ANSWER, THEY'LL GET, UH, AN EMAIL WHENEVER, UM, THERE IS A VACCINE WITH THEIR NAME ON IT.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE WAIT FOR RIGHT NOW.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THAT'S ALL ANYBODY ELSE HAVING A ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE? I WOULD JUST LIKE TO THIS MORNING AT THE, UH, CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND TERRELL THERE, WE HAVE OUR BREAKFAST MEETINGS EVERY TUESDAY MORNING.

UM, IT CAME UP BECAUSE I'VE GOTTEN SOME OF THESE SAME CALLS ABOUT THIS WHOLE PROCESS, WANTING TO KNOW SOME FOLKS WANT TO KNOW WHY WE'RE NOT DOING THAT LIKE DALLAS.

WELL, FIRST OF ALL, WE'RE NOT DALLAS, BUT, UH, WHAT THEY'RE REFERRING TO IS THE DRIVE-THRU NEWS AND SOMETHING, I HADN'T REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT A GOOD REASON THAT I WOULD THINK WE'RE NOT DOING THAT IS BECAUSE THERE IS LIKE A 15 MINUTE TIME PERIOD.

THEY NEED TO CHECK, MAKE SURE THERE'S NO REACTION TO IT.

SO I JUST WANNA LET FOLKS KNOW THAT THAT'S OUR THINKING ON IT.

WE'D RATHER YOU SIT THERE SO WE COULD KEEP AN EYE ON YOU FOR AT LEAST 15 MINUTES TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE GOING TO BE OKAY INSTEAD OF LETTING YOU DRIVE OFF, LIKE APPARENTLY THEY'RE DOING IT IN DALLAS.

SO, SO THAT'S, THAT'S, I WANT TO KIND OF GET THAT OUT THERE A LITTLE BIT.

WELL, AND I, AND I'LL TELL YOU THAT, UH, WE, THIS HUBS THAT WILL HAVE THE CAPACITY AND THIS WAS, WE HAVE TO, IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH A HUB SITE, YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO ASSURE, UH, DSHS THAT YOU CAN DO 2000 VACCINES A WEEK.

UM, BUT 2000 VACCINES A WEEK IS NOT GOING TO BE ENOUGH

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FOR KAUFMAN COUNTY.

SO, UM, I AM EXPECTING THAT WE, ONCE THE VACCINE START FLOW STARTS, WE WE'RE, WE'RE ALREADY DISCUSSING, THERE'S ALREADY DISCUSSIONS AND SOME PLANNING GOING ON ABOUT ESTABLISHING ANOTHER SITE SOMEWHERE.

UM, AND IT COULD VERY WELL BE A DRIVE-THROUGH SITE.

UH, IT JUST DEPENDS ON, YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA, WE DIDN'T, YOU GOT TO HAVE A GOOD LOCATION FOR THAT.

UM, SO YEAH, STADIUM PARKING LOT OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A BIG, BIG FACILITY TO START.

YEAH, YOU GOTTA, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT TO HAVE PARKING, YOU GOTTA HAVE TRAFFIC FLOW, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PLACE FOR THE WORKERS TO BE, YOU KNOW, TO, TO PREPARE THE VACCINES.

ESPECIALLY THE HEAD EARLY ON.

THEY HAD, WHENEVER THEY FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE VACCINES OR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ACTUALLY WAS PLAYING ON A HANGER AND ACCESS ROADS TO THE AIRPORT.

SO HE HAD PLENTY OF TRAFFIC, THE BIG PARKING LOT TO MONITOR THE PEOPLE FOR 15 MINUTES AND THEY NEVER GOT OUT OF THEIR CAR BASICALLY.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE LIKE THAT IN THE COUNTY, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LOVE TO THE IDEALISTICALLY.

WE'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DO IT IN ALL THE MAJOR CITIES IN THE COUNTY, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY UNREASONABLE.

I'M NOT FEASIBLE TO DO THAT WELL.

AND I THINK THAT WHAT, UH, AS THE, AS THE VACCINE SPOOL UP, YOU'LL SEE MORE AND MORE OF THE VACCINES, UH, DELIVERIES GOING TO PHARMACIES.

RIGHT.

AND, AND EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE, THEY CAN'T DO 2000 A WEEK, THEY CAN DO A LOT AND THAT'LL SPREAD IT OUT OVER PRODUCTION.

IT'S THE WAY IT IS.

EXCELLENT.

THAT'S REALLY, YEAH.

YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY HOLDING EVERYBODY UP.

SO ONCE WE GET RAMP UP THE PRODUCTION AND STUFF, YEAH.

I WOULD SAY EVERYTHING IS ON THE TABLE AT THIS POINT, JUDGE.

I'D JUST LIKE TO JUST COMMENT THAT WE DID HAVE THIS DISCUSSION THAT WE RECOGNIZE THAT, THAT A SINGLE HUB IS STILL PROBABLY INADEQUATE IN THAT AS, AS OUR CAPACITY AND THE, UH, THE AVAILABILITY OF THE VACCINE RAMPS UP THAT WE CERTAINLY WILL LOOK AT, UH, A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL SITES PROBABLY, UH, UH, IN PRECINCT TWO AND, UH, AND HOPEFULLY SOMETHING DOWN IN THE SOUTH EAST PART OF THE COUNTY.

YEAH.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, I MEAN, I, I COULD SEE US HAVING TWO, THREE OR MAYBE FOUR, BUT WE'RE PROBABLY GETTING AHEAD OF OURSELVES AT THIS POINT.

CAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE VACCINE SUPPLY IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

AND I'M NOT ENTIRELY CONVINCED THAT THERE MAY, THERE MAY VERY WELL BE SOME SORT OF A FEDERAL INITIATIVE TO COME AND MOBILIZE THE NATIONAL GUARD OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHICH WOULD PROBABLY TAKE US OUT OF IT.

SO WELL, THEY'RE THE EXPERTS.

I MEAN, THEY DO IT, WE GOT ALL THE STUFF DON'T THINK.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO THAT

[2. CONSENT AGENDA]

BRINGS US TO ITEM TWO, WHICH IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.

WE HAVE ITEMS A THROUGH F IS THERE ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO PULL OFF OF THAT FOR DISCUSSION, IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WE HAVE THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER HUNT, DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES NEXT STEP.

DAVID, AS

[3. David Asbill; Discuss/consider/approve software purchase for Children's Shelter to automate case files using Covid funds and authorizing County Judge to execute any necessary agreements.]

BILL DISCUSSED, CONSIDER APPROVED SOFTWARE PURCHASE FOR CHILDREN'S SHELTER TO AUTOMATE CASE FILES USING COVID FUNDS IN AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE ANY NECESSARY ARRANGEMENTS AGREEMENTS.

MR. ASHEVILLE, YOU WANT TO COME UP HERE AND TELL US WHAT'S COOKING.

SO I WANT TO, UM, PRESENT, UH, THAT WE ARE ABLE TO PURCHASE THE SOFTWARE PROGRAM.

THIS SOFTWARE PROGRAM, UM, WILL HELP, UH, LIMIT THE HAND-TO-HAND FACE-TO-FACE CONTACT OF ALL THE FORMS THAT WE HAVE TO FILL OUT AND, UH, SHARE WITH THE SCHOOL IN THE STATE FOR EVERY KID THAT IS PLACED AT THE SHELTER.

UM, AND THIS PROGRAM WILL HELP, UH, MINIMIZE, LIKE I SAY, THAT CONTACT AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE ARE SNEEZING AND STUFF, YOU DON'T SEE, LIKE I SAY, JUST, UH, IT, THAT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE OF, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE PASSING PAPERWORK AROUND AND, UM, WE'RE STILL, I WILL SAY A LITTLE OLD SCHOOL AND THE FACT ALL OF OUR DOCUMENTATION AND EVERYTHING IS ON PAPER.

AND SO I FEEL LIKE THIS, UM, PROCESS, UH, WILL NOT ONLY HELP, UH, BE A LITTLE MORE EFFICIENT SAVE PAPERWORK, BUT IT ALSO HELP, UH, WITH CONTACT WITH PEOPLE, UH, DURING THIS COVID TIME.

HAVE YOU, HAVE YOU USED THIS BEFORE OR DO YOU KNOW OTHER SHELTERS THAT ARE USING IT? UH, HAVE USED IT IN THE PAST? YES.

GOOD.

AND THERE, THERE ARE MANY PROGRAMS OUT

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THERE, UM, AND THERE ARE OTHERS THAT, YOU KNOW, MAY HAVE A LITTLE MORE FANCY TECHNIQUES, BUT HERE, AGAIN, LOOKING AT PRICE OVERALL, UH, AND ONGOING, YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU BUY A PROGRAM, YOU STILL HAVE TO PAY MONTHLY FEES AND THINGS.

UH, AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THAT, UH, HAS A VERY REASONABLE PRICE FOR ALL THE TECHNOLOGY THAT YOU GET.

UH, DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT JUST LEBANON BIKES, CAUSE THE COVID PUNCH OR TO GET INTO THE PROGRAM.

AND AFTER THE COVID GOES AWAY, THEN WE'LL HAVE, WE'LL BE PAYING THE MONTHLY FEE.

YEP.

BASICALLY.

RIGHT.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE MONTHLY FIGURES? YEAH, IT'S A DOLLAR PER ACTIVE KID.

OKAY.

SO KIND OF PAYING THE, OUR KIDS COME AND GO PER MONTH.

I ASSUME YOU MEAN PER DAY, PER DAY, PER NIGHT.

IT'S PER DAY.

SO, YOU KNOW, ONE DAY WE MIGHT HAVE $15 A DAY, ONE DAY, YOU KNOW, $9 A DAY.

BUT THEN AT THE END OF THE MONTH, YOU ADD THAT UP BASED ON OUR AVERAGE, UM, NUMBER OF KIDS RIGHT NOW, I WOULD SAY IT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT THREE 50 A MONTH QUESTIONS.

THIS WOULD BEGIN WHEN, UH, AS SOON AS Y'ALL APPROVED.

NO, PROBABLY NOT TIL THE 1ST OF MARCH.

I'M JUST GUESSING ON TIME WE SIGNED THE CONTRACT, SEND IT IN, THEY SET UP DAYS TO COME INSTALL, YOU KNOW, THE PROGRAM.

AND, AND THAT ALSO INCLUDES TWO DAYS OF TRAINING.

THEY'LL COME AND DO TWO DAYS OF TRAINING WITH STAFF TO MAKE THE SURVEY HAS QUESTIONS, NOT ON HOW TO USE THE PROGRAM.

UH, SO YOU'RE TALKING BASICALLY SIX MONTHS AND MONEY TO THE BUDGET, RIGHT? THEY HAVE THE MONEY FOR THAT.

YOU DON'T BE CODED UNDER COVID, YOU'LL BE CODED UNDER COVID WE'LL PAY FOR IT.

OKAY, GOOD.

THE ONE THING THAT I DID THINK OF AFTERWARDS, KAREN, UM, WE WILL NEED A, UH, LAPTOP FOR STAFF TO USE, TO ENTER DATA, UH, LIKE THE OFFICE STAFF HAVE THEM, BUT MY DAY TO DAY, STAFF WILL NEED A LAPTOP TO, TO LIKE SAY BED, ACCESS AND ENTER ALL THE INFORMATION AND YOUR DAILY NOTES FOR ALL THE KIDS YOU'LL NEED YOU TO TALK TO IT.

AND I FIGURED THEY WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT UP WHILE WE'RE DISCUSSING.

YEAH.

I INITIALLY GAVE IT TO TEACH THEM FOR US TO BE ABLE TO BUY IT, BUT YOU HAVE GOT TO BE REIMBURSED.

RIGHT.

THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER STORY AND I DON'T WANT TO REDO EVERYTHING.

NO, I GOTCHA.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO.

OKAY.

THEN WHAT'S, BEFORE US, UH, WOULD BE LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SOFTWARE PURCHASE FOR THE CHILDREN'S SHELTER AND TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE EXECUTE NECESSARY AGREEMENTS, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE.

WE HAVE MOTION TO IT, ONE ISSUE.

UM, I THINK THAT THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY, THEY HEAR IT'S GOING TO BE A YEARLY CONTRACT, IS MY UNDERSTANDING.

DO YOU KNOW THAT'S IF THE CONTRACT IS JUST FOR THE ONE YEAR TERM, I BELIEVE, OR IT WILL BE ONGOING PROBABLY THAT, THAT RENEWABLE EVERY YEAR IT'S ONGOING, BUT YOU CAN STAY LIKE IF WE DECIDED IN, YOU KNOW, YEAR AND A HALF, YOU CAN BACK OUT.

UNLESS I KNOW THE, THE PEOPLE, UH, THEY'RE VERY WORKABLE.

UM, LIKE I JUST CAN'T, AS WE SIGN INTO YOUR CONTRACT, IF LET'S SAY IN A YEAR AND A HALF, IT'S JUST NOT WORKING OR, OR WE CAN'T AFFORD IT, THEY'RE NOT GONNA, BUT THE INITIAL CONTRACT IS FOR A YEAR.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.

YES.

YES.

THAT'S CORRECT.

YES.

OKAY.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

IS THERE A SECOND MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER BARBERS OR A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING I WAS SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

NEXT

[4. Randy Richards; Discuss/Consider/Approve amendment to the Fire Code regarding the use of third-party company for reporting.]

UP, UH, MARSHALL, RICHARD'S GOING TO TALK TO US ABOUT, UH, AN AMENDMENT OF THE FIRE CODE REGARDING THE USE OF THIRD PARTY, UH, COMPANY FOR REPORTING.

GOOD MORNING, UH, THE SORT OF PACK OF DTW A WHILE BACK.

SO YOU CAN KIND OF DO A LITTLE RESEARCH AND UNDERSTAND ABOUT IT, BUT WHAT PROMPTED?

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THIS WAS RECENTLY, WE HAD A, UH, ONE OF MY DEPUTIES WAS DOING SOME NEW INSPECTIONS ON SOME OF OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS UP NORTH.

AND WE REALIZED THAT THE ENTIRE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAD YELLOW TAGS.

AND I BELIEVE ONE RED TAG THAT HAD NOT BEEN ADDRESSED IN QUITE SOME TIME.

THEY WERE TAGS ON THE SPIKER SYSTEM OR WHAT SPRINKLERS ALARM.

UM, I BELIEVE THE KITCHEN HOOD SYSTEM AND EVEN THE CLEANING REQUIRED CLEANING, UH, TO PREVENT FIRES.

AND, UH, WE HAD ISSUES ON ALL OF THOSE, AND THAT WAS SCARY KNOWING THAT OUR CHILDREN WERE IN THE SCHOOLS AND EVERYTHING.

AND, UH, SO THAT PROMPTED, UH, MY DEPUTY TO ADDRESS A PROGRAM THAT SHE USED, UH, FOR WHEN SHE CAME FROM FURTHER INVESTIGATION, REVEALED SEVERAL COUNTIES AND CITIES THAT ARE USING THIS.

THE REQUIREMENTS ALWAYS BEEN THERE FOR THE REPORTING.

IT'S JUST, HOW ARE WE CONFIRMING AND MAKING SURE THAT THESE, THESE COMPANIES AND THESE, YOU KNOW, THE LICENSE COMPANIES THAT HAVE THESE CONTRACTS, HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT THEY REPORT TO US? AND THAT'S WHAT THIS COMPANY DOES HERE TODAY.

AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING THE FIRE CODE BE AMENDED.

SO, SO A COMPANY, AN INSPECTION COMPANY INSPECTED THE SCHOOL AND THEY'RE THE ONES WHO DID THE TAGS.

YES, SIR.

BUT THEY DIDN'T, BUT THEY, BUT THEY NEVER REPORTED THAT TO THE FARM.

YOU WERE NEVER AWARE OF IT, CORRECT? NO.

THEY REPORT TO US NOR THE STATE OF TEXAS WHO, WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY IS IT THE PRIVATE COMPANY OR IS IT THE SCHOOL'S RESPONSIBILITY TO REPORT THESE, THE COMPANY THAT DOES THE INSPECTIONS, UH, YOU KNOW, ANY SCHOOL, ANY BUSINESS CAN HIRE WHICHEVER COMPANY THEY WANT.

AND IT WOULD BE THE SAME IN THIS PROGRAM, WHICHEVER COMPANY THEY CHOOSE.

SO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HIRED THESE PEOPLE, NOT THE COUNTY, RIGHT? NO, THIS, THIS COMPANY THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE HAS NEW ONES AFFILIATION WITH ANY OF, ALL THEY DO IS, OH, NO, HE'S RIGHT.

I MEAN, THE ONES THE INSPECTION WAS DONE BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, NOT BY YOUR OFFICE, NOT DONE BY EURO.

NO, SIR.

THIS, THIS IS A, UH, WE'RE NOT QUALIFIED TO GO OUT AND DO THE ANNUAL INSPECTIONS ON THE PER SE.

I MEAN, W WE, WE CHECKED THE, UH, WE WITNESSED THE TESTING OF IT, BUT AS FAR AS A LICENSED RMA FOR A SPRINKLER COMPANY TO GO OUT, MAKE SURE THE SYSTEM'S UP.

THEY DO THE, THE BACKFLOW CHECK, THE BACKFLOW AND THEY DO THE FLUSHING IN THE SYSTEM.

OKAY.

SO, SO IF I HAD A RESTAURANT, IF I HAVE A RESTAURANT, UM, AND YOU KNOW, WITH A BIG HOOD AND ALL THAT STUFF, I'M REQUIRED TO HAVE, UH, TO HIRE A COMPANY, TO DO AN ANNUAL INSPECTION ON THAT HOOD AND FIRE CODE.

AND SO I HIRE ABC COMPANY TO DO THAT.

YES.

THEY COME OUT AND, YOU KNOW, THEY SAY, WELL, NONE OF THIS IS WORKING.

AND I SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, I DON'T CARE OR WHATEVER.

SO THEY RED TAG IT.

YES, SIR.

AND RIGHT NOW WE RELY ON THEM TO REPORT THAT TO THE STATE.

THAT IS CORRECT.

AND LIKE, IN THE CASE OF THE SCHOOL, THEY APPARENTLY DIDN'T REPORT IT TO THE STATE.

RIGHT.

SO THE, THE, THE CODE REQUIRES THE INSPECTION COMPANY TO REPORT TO US.

YES, SIR.

THEY'RE REQUIRED TO REPORT IT TO US OR JUST TO STATE, TO US, TO THE LOCAL AUTHORITY, HAVING JURISDICTION AND THE STATE, RIGHT.

IN THE SPRAY CASE OF THE SPRINKLER SYSTEM, SPRINKLER SYSTEM, THEY REPORT IT ALWAYS DIRECTLY TO THE STATE OUT.

THEY ALWAYS HAVE, RIGHT? NO, SIR.

I DON'T.

NO, SIR.

WE HAD A SIMILAR CIRCUMSTANCE IN AN APARTMENT COMPLEX FROM YOUR PRECINCT AND WHICH THEY WENT A LITTLE OVER THREE MONTHS.

AND, UH, WE FOUND OUT ABOUT IT.

UH, SOMEBODY THAT WAS A TIP AND WE WENT OUT THERE AND CHECKED IT FOR OVER THREE MONTHS.

NONE OF THE OCCUPANTS SLEEPING IN THOSE QUARTERS WOULD HAVE KNOWN IF A FIRE ALARM WENT OFF BECAUSE THE LINE HAD BEEN SEVERED EITHER.

THEY THEN HAD IN THE PAST, DOES ANYBODY EVER KNOW THAT THAT'S THE PROBLEM? THAT'S THE PROBLEM ACROSS THE STATE AND ACROSS THE UNITED STATES, WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE REGULATION.

BUT I MEAN, WHAT THIS COMPANY HERE, ONCE THEY BUILD THE DATABASE, THEY DO ALL THE LEG WORK.

WE DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT TO EACH ONE OF THESE FACILITIES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE A CONTRACT, MAKE SURE THAT THE REPORTING NOW REQUIRES THEM TO REPORT TO US THAT THEY DON'T REPORT TO THIS COMPANY.

SO WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE A BETTER, A BETTER REPORTING SYSTEM ON, ON THE SEPTIC SYSTEM.

AND WE DO OWN FIRE.

WE DO.

WE START, I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S, WHAT I'M HEARING HERE IS IT THAT WE HAVE A BETTER PAPER TRAIL USUALLY.

I MEAN, USUALLY MUNICIPALITIES PAINT DEPARTMENTS, YOU KNOW, ENGINES IN THEIR DISTRICTS GO OUT AND THEY DO THE, THAT THE STATE INSPECTIONS.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW, JUST, UH, THEY DON'T DO, THEY DO THE INSPECTIONS.

SO YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE BUILDING AND WHAT'S IN THERE IN CASE YOU DO HAVE AN EMERGENCY PLUS YOU'RE CHECKING THEIR FIRE EXTINGUISHERS OR SYSTEMS TO MAKE SURE THE TAGS ARE APPROPRIATE.

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THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT INSPECTING THE FIRE EXTINGUISHERS.

THEY'RE JUST LOOKING FOR TAGS.

YEAH.

THAT'S ALL WE'RE DOING.

YES.

ALL YOU DO IS JUST GO IN AND DO, AND THEN JUST TALK TO THE OWNER AND SAY, THESE THINGS ARE OUT OF DATE.

YOU NEED TO CALL YOUR PROVIDER AND THEN YOU FOLLOW UP.

BUT, BUT IN THE RULE SECTION, LOCKWOOD, HE'S DEALING WITH MAN IT'S UNLESS HE HAS THE PERSONNEL TO GO OUT AND SEND ALL OF HIS PEOPLE TO EACH AND EVERY AGENT, DIFFERENT BUSINESS SP NO.

WELL, I DON'T KNOW, LIKE, LIKE, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S IN PERFECT NOW, BUT COMES IN MY PRECINCT TO OUR SOMETHING COURTHOUSE.

AND LIKE, THEY, THERE WAS A CEILING TILE.

THE GUYS WERE OVER THERE FIXING AND THEY MOVED.

AND I CALLED RANDY ABOUT, I SAID, THIS SYRUP, IT BROKE ME UP BECAUSE THE CEILING TILE WAS OVER IN THE CORNER.

THEY WENT TO GET APART.

NICE.

AND YOU CAN'T DO THAT.

AND THEY CAME BACK TWO WEEKS LATER TO CHECK, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PUT THE SAME TILE BACK.

THAT'S AN AVENUE FOR FIRE SPREAD.

THAT'S RIGHT.

BASICALLY SAY THESE NORMALLY, THAT'S WHY I BET THIS IS KIND OF FALLING THE LOOP BECAUSE COUNTIES ARE ALL OF A SUDDEN BECOMING MORE POPULAR FOR YES, SIR.

BIGGER THINGS THAT THEY NEVER DID BEFORE.

YOU JUST DON'T HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF HAVING THE SHIFT.

STAFFING IS COMMISSIONER HOMESICK.

THAT GETS YOU TO GO OUT.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF ABUSE TOO.

AND I MEAN, JUST TWO WEEKS AGO WAS KISSING A LOT OF FLACK FROM A PROPERTY OWNER THAT HAD ACTUALLY, AND THIS IS JUST WHEN I SURMISED, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FACT OR NOT, BUT THEY HAD A BUSINESS IN DALLAS, THE CITY OF DALLAS AND THEIR RENT WENT UP, WAS IT 15 OR WHATEVER, SEVERAL THOUSAND DOLLARS.

BUT WHAT HAPPENED WAS THE CITY OF DALLAS WENT IN AND CAUGHT THEM USING THIS HAZARDOUS MATERIAL.

RIGHT.

AND SO THEY MONITORED, THE RENTER, HAD TO UPGRADE THE FACILITY AND CHECK THE ARENA FOR THEM TO STAY.

SO THEY COME TO KAUFMAN COUNTY TO FIND SOMETHING, THIS RULE.

AND THEN THEY TRY TO PUT IN, THIS IS IT'S IT'S IN THE SAME CLASSIFICATION.

IF YOU TAKE THE MERCHANT RESPONSE GUIDE, THE MATERIAL WAS IN THE SAME CLASSIFICATION AS THE, THE FERTILIZER IN WEST, IT WAS IN THE SAME CLASSIFICATION AND I'VE DONE FORGOT A LOT OF THAT STUFF, BUT IT'S NOT, IT WASN'T HAZARDOUS.

AND YOU KNOW, SO I MEAN, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF ABUSE AND BECAUSE WE'RE GROWING AND PEOPLE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF US AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S UNFORTUNATELY THE CHANCE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE WE HAVE IS IF A COMPANY HAS ABC MAINTENANCE COMPANY TO DO THEIR WORK.

AND THAT COMPANY HAS BEEN REPORTING WHEN THIS COMPANY DECIDES TO HAVE A CONTRACT WITH ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, X, Y, Z COMPANY, AND ABC DOESN'T NOTIFY US.

THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO NOTIFY US THAT THEY DON'T NO LONGER HAVE A CONTRACT.

AND THERE'S A PERIOD OF TIME THAT GOES, THAT XYZ IS NOT DOING THE REPORTING.

SO UPON THE COMPANY, THE BUSINESS IS PART OF CHANGING COMPANIES.

WE'RE NOT RECEIVING NOTIFICATION.

WHEREAS THE DATABASE THAT THIS COMPANY HERE IS SET UP ONCE THEY GET IT ESTABLISHED, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THAT REPORT EVERY TIME.

AND IF IT DOESN'T SHOW FROM THAT COMPANY THAT THEY PREVIOUSLY HAD, THEY'RE GOING TO CONTACT THEM AND ASK, WHY HAVE YOU NOT REPORTED? WE NO LONGER DO BUSINESS WITH THAT.

THEY'RE NOT TALKING TO THE OWNER OF THE COMPANY.

THEY'RE TALKING TO THE PROVIDER THAT MAY BE A CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE WE WOULD HAVE TO CONTACT THE OWNER AND SAY, HEY, WHO IS YOUR NEW MAINTENANCE COMPANY? AND THEN WE COULD GET THAT ADDRESSED.

YEAH.

IS THERE A WAY TO HAVE WHAT MAY BE AN APPROVED LIST OF THE COMPANIES, YOU KNOW, ARE GOING TO DO IT RIGHT? THAT YOU RECOMMEND? OR SOME OF THEM WE HAVE NO WITH THE BUSINESSES USING THEIR CURRENT COMPANIES, ALL THIS DOES IS THIS COURT ORDER WOULD REQUIRE WE, THEY ARTICULATE A LITTLE BIT MORE AND EXPLAINED A LITTLE BETTER, UH, ADDED ONE OH 8.1.

BUT IT, IT NOW REQUIRES THE COMPANIES TO DO THE REPORTING THROUGH THIS ONLINE DATABASE.

AND OF COURSE, IF IT'S NOT DONE, THEN WE'RE GOING TO GET NOTIFIED.

WE'LL STILL BE THE ONES THAT GO OUT AND DO THE ENFORCEMENT AND, UH, AND SO FORTH THIS COMPANY MERELY DOES THE TRACKING AND LET'S MAKE SURE IT GETS PLACED WHEN SOMETHING, YES, SIR.

THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

IS THERE A PENALTY TO THESE COMPANIES, THESE INDEPENDENT COMPANIES? YES.

YESTERDAY IT IS.

UH, WE, WE STILL WANT TO DO IT, YOU KNOW, IN, IN A NICE, POLITE WAY.

UH, IT'LL BE ON OUR LETTERHEAD.

THAT'LL BE SENT OUT IN THE FIRST LETTER WOULD BE JUST A NOTICE, A FRIENDLY REMINDER SAYING, HEY, NEXT MONTH, THIS IS SHOWING THAT YOU'RE DOING SIMILAR TO WHAT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DOES.

AND THEN IF IT WASN'T DONE WITHIN THAT 30 DAYS, WE WOULD SEND OUT ANOTHER LETTER SAYING, HEY, YOU ARE IN VIOLATION.

YOU NEED TO GET THIS ADDRESSED AND A FOLLOW UP WITH THAT.

I MEAN, IF THERE'S COOPERATION

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GREAT, WE'RE DONE.

AND IF THERE'S NOT, THEN WHAT, THE ABILITIES THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE FIRE CODE RANK, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN BE ALL THE WAY UP TO SHUT HIM DOWN, BUT THAT WOULD BE SOMEBODY WHO'S JUST NOT WANTING TO COMPLY AT ALL.

STATE MANDATED.

YEAH.

CARLOS IS NOT BEAR BY THE PROPERTY OWNER.

IT'S BY THE VENOUS COMPANIES, THE VENDORS THAT ARE PROVIDING THE SERVICE.

YES, SIR.

THE THING IS COMPANIES.

YES.

DOES IT DO, HOW MUCH DOES IT COST THE VENDOR $15 PER INSPECTION, WHICH ALMOST ALL OF THESE INSPECTIONS ARE ONE TIME A YEAR.

UH, THE EXCEPTION THAT I KNOW RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD WOULD BE HOOD SYSTEMS, THE FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEMS, SOME KITCHEN HOODS, AND THOSE WERE REQUIRED TWO TIMES A YEAR AND HOPE SANDS ON THE BAIL AND ALL THAT FOR THAT THIS COMPANY, THIS COMPANY THAT MAKE THIS CUP, THESE WILL PAY BRYCE, OR THEY'RE NOT PAYING US.

I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF LIKE WHERE THEY GET THEIR MONEY CHARGED.

OKAY.

MY HISTORICAL RESEARCH SHOWS THAT THEY WERE $12 PER INSPECTION FOR MANY YEARS.

AND LAST MAY, I BELIEVE THEY WENT UP TO 15.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO REQUIRE A PRIVATE BUSINESS TO DO BUSINESS WITH ANOTHER PRIVATE BUSINESS.

IS THAT RIGHT? NO, SIR.

UH, STATE LAW TEXTED ADMINISTRATIVE CODE AND A PA AND OUR FIRE CODE EVEN REQUIRES A BUSINESS THAT HAS TO HAVE A SPRINKLER SYSTEM OR A FIRE ALARM SYSTEM OR A, UH, A HOOD SYSTEM THAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE.

THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE A MAINTENANCE CONTRACT FOR THE LIFETIME OF SYSTEM.

UM, ALL THIS IS DOING IS REQUIRING WHICHEVER MAINTENANCE COMPANY AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE BUSINESS OWNERS OPTION.

YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF, AS LONG AS IT'S A LICENSE COMPANY, THEY'RE NOT GETTING A LIST FROM BRASS OR THEY'RE NOT GETTING A LIST FROM US.

UH, HOWEVER I HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT PRODUCING CAN LIST SIMILAR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES OF ALL THE COMPANIES THAT HAVE DONE BUSINESS IN COPPIN COUNTY.

HERE'S A LIST.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU NEED A COMPANY, YOU MAKE THE CHOICE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR YOU.

AND, UH, WHAT'S THE MECHANISM OF NOTICE TO YOU? IS IT JUST AN EMAIL? YOU GET AN EMAIL THAT, YES, SIR.

IT'S ALL ELECTRONIC.

AND SO WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR, WHAT, WHAT PROCEDURE HAVE YOU SET UP OR DO YOU HAVE IN PLACE WITHIN THE FIRE MARSHALL'S OFFICE TO, TO TRACK THOSE EMAIL NOTICES? HOW DOES THAT WORK IN YOUR DEPARTMENT IS ALL GOING TO BE IN THIS DATABASE? IT'S, IT'S A CALENDAR TYPE ISSUE.

IT SHOWS US PROMPTS.

UH, WE'LL WE'LL ASSIST THIS COMPANY WITH OUR KNOWN BUSINESSES THAT WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THEM WITH THE, THE COMPANIES THAT HAVE SPRINKLER SYSTEMS, THE ONES THAT HAVE FIRE ALARM SYSTEMS AND SO FORTH.

NO, NO, NO.

I, I GUESS I'M MORE DOWN IN THE WEEDS.

WHAT, SO IF YOU GET AN EMAIL FROM THIS, YOU GET AN EMAIL NOTICE WHO GETS IT, IT WILL GO TO FIREMARSHALL@COFFEECOUNTY.NET.

IT'LL GO TO OUR OFFICE.

AND WHO IN YOUR OFFICE, I GUESS WHAT'S THE MECHANISM WITHIN YOUR OFFICE THAT IS ESTABLISHED THAT SOMEONE CHECKS THAT EVERY DAY OR IS THAT AN ASSIGNED DUTY ACTUALLY GOES TO EACH ONE OF OUR INDIVIDUAL EMAILS, BUT MY ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT SHE'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SCHEDULING AND EVERYTHING.

AND SHE WOULD ACTUALLY TAKE THAT NOTICE JUST AS WE WOULD SCHEDULE ANY OTHER INSPECTION, SHE'LL PRIORITIZE IT, PUT IT ON THE LIST AND GET SOMEONE OUT TO, UH, INSPECT.

OF COURSE, THE FIRST EMAIL THAT WE GET WOULDN'T REQUIRE A RESPONSE FROM US.

WE JUST GETTING NOTIFICATION THAT WE GET THE SAME EMAIL THAT, THAT COMPANY GOT, HEY, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE DUE HERE IN 15 MORE DAYS OR SOMETHING, BUT I GET, I GUESS I'M GOING TO COME BACK TO KIND OF WHAT HE SAID THERE, WHERE WHAT WE'RE DOING IS RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE REQUIRED BY LAW TO REPORT IT TO YOU.

YES, SIR.

EACH COMPANY YESTERDAY THAT GOES OUT AND DOES THE INSPECTION, RIGHT? YES, SIR.

AND THEY'RE NOT DOING THAT.

THAT'S CORRECT.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO SAY, OKAY, NOW WE'RE GOING TO REQUIRE YOU TO REPORT TO THIS COMPANY, NOT TO YOU NO MORE.

THEY'RE GOING TO REPORT TO YOU.

THEY'RE REPORTING TO US THROUGH THIS.

I KNOW, BUT I MEAN, WE'RE SAYING YOU SEND THIS INFORMATION TO THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO START TRACKING IT FOR US.

YES, SIR.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO CHARGE YOU $15.

THEY'RE NOT CHARGING US.

YEAH.

BUT THEY'RE GOING TO CHARGE THEM MAINTENANCE COMPANIES, WHAT YOU WERE ASKING.

YEAH.

MY, MY POINT WAS IF A COMPANY SAYS, WELL, I DON'T WANT TO PAY THAT $15.

I'M JUST GOING TO SEND YOU THE FIRE MARSHALL, MY REQUIRED NOTICE.

NO, SIR.

THAT'S A, THAT WOULD BE BETWEEN BRASHER, I GUESS, IN THAT MAINTENANCE COMPANY, WE, UH, WE STILL ENDED UP GETTING, BUT WE'RE REQUIRING THE REPORTING TO BE DONE THROUGH THE ONLINE DATABASE, WHICH GOES THROUGH BRASSEUR.

NOW OF COURSE, IF THAT COMPANY DOESN'T PAY BRASSARD, THAT'S GOING TO BE THEIR ISSUE.

IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE HOME IN ANY,

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HAS THERE BEEN ANY PUSHBACK FROM BUSINESS ABOUT THIS OR HAVE WE, NO, SIR.

HAVE WE PUBLISHED NOTICE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE GOTTEN ANY COMMENTS OR ANYTHING FROM IT, WE HAVE, WE AIN'T GOING TO DO THAT.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

IT SAYS, THIS HAS DONE, THIS HAS BEEN DONE FOR MANY YEARS BY MOSTLY MUNICIPALITIES, BUT THE LARGER COUNTIES THAT HAVE ADOPTED THE FIRE CODES ARE REALIZING THE SAME PROBLEMS THAT MUNICIPALITIES HAVE.

UH, THE DA'S OFFICE THOROUGHLY RESEARCHED.

AND ACTUALLY I BELIEVE COMMUNICATED WITH, UH, HARRIS COUNTY.

AND I DON'T KNOW THE OTHER TWO COUNTIES THAT YOU COMMUNICATED WITH.

YES.

AND THEY ALL PRAISED THE PROGRAM, HAD NO ISSUES WITH IT, UH, COMPLIANCE, YOU KNOW, NON, THEY DID NOT REALIZE THAT THERE WAS SO MANY COMPANIES THAT WERE IN NON-COMPLIANCE AND WITHIN A FEW MONTHS, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD A 60% COMPLIANCE AND THEN ELEVATED 70.

NOW HAITI, OUR GOAL IS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DO WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.

IT'S JUST THE TRACKING AND EVERYTHING IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF OUR SIZE.

AND THAT'S WHAT THIS COMPANY OFFERS UNDERSTAND.

I, I JUST THINK THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF HOW HAS THIS COUNTY GROWS, THAT WE WE'VE MORE AND MORE HAVE THESE CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUES AND RESPONSIBILITIES.

AND WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY SORT OF A CENTRAL OPS PLAN FOR JUST CODE ENFORCEMENT.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE JUST CONSTANTLY AD HOCKING THIS WITHOUT ANY KIND OF A OVERARCHING WAY FORWARD WHEN IT COMES BACK TO CODE ENFORCEMENT THAT ME AND TERRY ARE DOING RIGHT NOW AND IN CIVIL MATTER, CORRECT CODE ENFORCEMENT IS TRASH.

SO I MEAN, IT IS COMING DOWN TO THE POINT THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF CODE ANY OF THE COMPANIES THAT DO BUSINESS IN OUR COUNTY.

THEY'RE ALREADY DOING THIS WITH BROWSER AND OTHER COUNTIES, DALLAS PROVIDERS ALREADY DO IT RIGHT, BECAUSE THEY'RE SOMEWHERE ELSE TOO.

SO WHEN THEY MOVE HERE, THEY SAID, WELL, WE'RE USED TO THAT.

SO WE REPORT TO THEM.

ROGER HAS A DATABASE OF APPROXIMATELY 800 COMPANIES IN WHICH THEY WILL NOTIFY RIGHT TO GOLF.

THE COUNTY HAS ADOPTED THE SAME PROCEDURE.

WE CAN JUST KNOWN IN THE INDUSTRY, YOU KNOW, ACROSS THE STATE, WE KNEW WE REGULATE OR LICENSED THE INSPECTION COMPANIES IN OUR COUNTY.

NO, SIR.

THAT IS DONE PRIMARILY THROUGH THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF LICENSING AND REGULATION.

BUT SOME OF THE LASSINGER ACTUALLY COMES THROUGH THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF INSURANCE.

I E VIA THE TEXAS STATE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE ON THE LICENSING AND THE FEE, DO THEY ASK OUR PERMISSION? OUR, DO WE REGULATE THAT PRICE AND THAT FEE? NO, SIR.

WELL, I MEANT FOR THEM, IT'S $15 NOW.

SO NEXT YEAR, IF THEY DECIDED TO DISCHARGE 50, THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE TO TELL US, THAT'S WHY I RESEARCHED THE HISTORY.

AND, UH, THEY WERE, THEY WERE $12 FOR APPROXIMATELY EIGHT OR NINE YEARS BEFORE THEY WENT TO THE 15.

I BELIEVE IT WAS, YEAH, IT WAS NINE YEARS.

THERE'S NO LAW OR REGULATIONS SAYING THAT ANYBODY HAS TO HAVE THAT COMPANY.

THAT'S JUST A FREE STANDING ALONE COMPANY.

ANYTIME THAT WE WANTED, WE COULD JUST DO AWAY WITH THEM.

THEY'D HAVE TO COME BACK TO REPORTING THIS, RIGHT? YES, SIR.

IF WE HAD THE ABILITY TO SAYING, OKAY, YES WE KNOW.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

AND THERE WAS NO LONG-TERM CONTRACT IT'S A ONE YEAR AT A TIME OR SOMETHING.

WHEN KAREN, DO WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO, TO ESTABLISH, UH, SOME SORT OF REGULATORY CONTROL OVER WHO WHO'S AN APPROVED INSPECTION COMPANY IN OUR COUNTY.

I'M NOT CERTAIN I CAN LOOK AT THAT AND GET BACK WITH YOU, BUT I'M, I'M NOT FOR CERTAIN ON THAT.

MY GUESS, IS WE MY RESPONSE? SORRY.

NO, I WAS GONNA SAY MY GUESS IS WE PROBABLY DON'T, BUT IT MEANT W WHERE I WOULD SEE IT FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT IS THAT WHATEVER CONTRACT THAT WE ENTER INTO WITH BRYCE, OR THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO SET SOME LIMITS ABOUT A PERCENTAGE INCREASE, UM, PER YEAR ON PRICING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE A CONTRACTUAL ISSUE BETWEEN THE ACCOUNTING AND THE COMPANY AND THE TERM OF THE CONTRACT.

I WOULD FIND IT VERY STRANGE.

IF THE STATE IS LICENSING THE COMPANY THAT DOES SPRINKLER INSPECTIONS, I WOULD THINK IT'D BE REALLY STRANGE IF WE HAD ANY AUTHORITY THAT WOULD SUPERSEDE THAT OTHER WORDS, IF YOU'RE LICENSED TO DO BUSINESS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, WE KAUFMAN COUNTY, CAN'T SAY YOU CAN'T COME IN HERE.

YOU KNOW, IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN A PEACE OFFICER OR A FIREFIGHTER.

THEY HAVE TO MAINTAIN THEIR CERTIFICATIONS.

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WELL, THAT'S, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FRANK ARE COMING.

THIS IS JUST A COMPANY, THIS CHECKING, THE SECOND COMPANY, THIS COMPANY DOES NOT DO THE INSPECTION, RIGHT? THIS THING, THIS, THIS PASSING THE INFORMATION, ALL THEY DO IS TRACK.

YOU'RE SAYING COMMISSIONER, YOU'RE SAYING THAT IF WE CONTRACT WITH THIS COMPANY AND THEY COME IN AND ALL THE DIFFERENT COMPANIES HAVE TO REPORT TO THEM, THEY CHARGED $15 THIS YEAR, BUT WHAT'S TO STOP THEM FROM NEXT YEAR, CHARGING $50.

THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE.

AND SO WHAT MY POINT ON THAT IS, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE AUTHORITY TO LIMIT THEIR PRICING OVERALL, BUT WHAT WE DO HAVE AUTHORITY IS A BINDING CONTRACT.

CAUSE WE W WE WOULD ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH CHRYSLER.

AND SO WHAT WE WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE INCIDENT IN OUR CONTRACT, THAT WE HAVE SAFEGUARDS SET UP FOR OUR CITIZENS.

FOR INSTANCE, IF THE PRICE IS $15 THIS YEAR, THEN THAT PRICE INCREASE CAN NOT GO UP HALF A PERCENT, 1%, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE NORMALLY PRICES GO UP EVERY YEAR, MOST CONTRACTS.

AND SO I THINK THAT THERE'S SOME SAFEGUARDS THAT WE WOULD WANT TO DEFINITELY BUILD IN, AND IT MIGHT BE A STEP SAFEGUARD BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE COMPANY OR THE, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT THERE ARE, THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN PUT IN AS A COUNTY CONTRACTING THAT WOULD WELL, AND ALSO, I ALSO THINK THAT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THIS COMPANY HAS NO, THERE'S NO REGULATION FOR THIS COMPANY, FROM THE STATE OR FROM US, OR FROM ANYBODY.

THEY'RE JUST, THE COMPANY IS PASSING THE INFORMATION.

THEY'RE COLLECTING OUR DATA FOR US.

I MEAN, THAT'S BASICALLY ALL THEY'RE DOING.

OKAY.

SO THE SAFEGUARDS YOU WANT ARE THAT YOU PRICE LOW, MAKING SURE WE OWN THE DATA.

SO WE DON'T WANT TO READ YOU A CONTRACT.

WE OWN OUR DATA THAT WE CAN EXPORT INTO ANOTHER SYSTEM OR ANOTHER, OR EVEN RUN SOMETHING OURSELVES.

IS, DOES THAT MEAN THAT I THINK THOSE ARE OUR SAFEGUARDS POINT, BUT A LICENSED FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS LICENSED INSPECTION COMPANY COULD OPT NOT TO DO BUSINESS WITH BRYCE OR, AND REPORT DIRECTLY, CORRECT.

AS LONG AS THEY'RE REPORTING, THAT'S THE GOAL OF THIS? WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE'RE NOT MANDATING THAT, UH, YOU KNOW WHAT I WAS ASKING, YOU KNOW, THE TERRELL INSPECTION COMPANY MUST DO BUSINESS WITH BRYCE, OR IF CAROLYN INSPECTION COMPANY DOESN'T WANT TO PAY THAT FEE, THEY COULD REPORT UNDER STATE LAW DIRECTLY, CORRECT.

WHERE WE'RE REQUIRING THEM TO REPORT THROUGH THIS DATABASE.

SO WE ARE REQUIRING THEM.

, THAT'S MY QUESTION.

YES, SIR.

SO WE'RE REQUIRING A BUSINESS THAT WORKS IN KAUFMAN COUNTY TO DO BUSINESS WITH ANOTHER BUSINESS.

WE DON'T, WE DON'T GIVE THEM THE OPTION THAT THEY CAN REPORT DIRECTLY WITHOUT GOING THROUGH BRUSHER THAT WE CAN REQUIRE THEM TO REPORT.

IS THAT THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THEY ARE REQUIRED TO REPORT TO REPORTING IS WHEN THEY REPORT TO BRYCE OR, OR REPORT TO THE COUNTY, I THINK THAT WE CAN MAKE USE.

I THINK THAT WE CAN REQUIRE THEM.

I BELIEVE UNDER THE STATUTE TO USE A THIRD PARTY REPORTING REQUIRED REPORTING SYSTEM THAT WE SET UP.

DID WE HAVE THE, THE, WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO CHARGE THEM MONEY TO REPORT THEIR SPRINKLER RED TAGS TO US.

I HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT.

I MEAN, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHERE WE'RE TELLING THEM THAT THEY HAVE TO PAY THESE PEOPLE TO REPORT TO US.

CORRECT.

AND IT'S ANOTHER PRIVATE COMPANY.

THAT WAS MY QUESTION WHERE WE'RE SAYING, YOU'RE GOING TO CHARGE THIS OTHER PRIVATE COMPANY AND YOU HAVE TO PAY THIS OTHER PRIVATE COMPANY JUST TO GIVE US A REPORT THAT WE ALREADY COLLECT.

WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS, IS HEARING YOUR QUESTIONS HERE TODAY.

AND I THINK DEBBIE WORKED WITH YOU ON THIS.

WE'LL COME BACK NEXT WEEK AND WE'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION.

DON'T ASK JUST A LITTLE BIT.

AND, AND MY UNDERSTANDING WAS IT WOULD BE SIMILAR TO, AGAIN, WHAT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DOING WEB DEVELOPMENT SERVICE DOES THE SAME THING, YOU KNOW, BELONGS TO US CHARGING FOR IT.

THEN, UM, THEY, THE COMPANIES WEREN'T TELLING THE INDIVIDUALS THAT THEY HAD NO CONTRACTS WITH IT.

OH, BY THE WAY, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO PAY US AN ADDITIONAL 15 FOR THIS.

THEY WERE JUST EITHER ABSORBING THE COST THEMSELVES AS A MAINTENANCE COMPANY OR THE NEXT TIME THAT THEY SUBMITTED AN INVOICE THAT WAS ALL INCLUSIVE WITH ALL OF THEIR OTHER, GET IT.

I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND IT.

IT WOULD PROBABLY MOST ORGANIZATIONS ESPECIALLY WENT UP.

THEY PROBABLY, THEY DON'T EVEN CARE, BUT I'M NOT EVEN SURE IF THE BUSINESS EVEN KNOWS THAT.

ARE YOU AWARE THAT YEAH, I'M SURE OR NOT, BUT WE WERE AWARE, BUT WERE AWARE OF IT AND YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, I DON'T KNOW.

IT JUST SEEMS, IT SEEMS LIKE AGAIN, BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE SAYING, OKAY, YOU, YOU, YOU HAVE TO DO BUSINESS WITH THIS COMPANY BECAUSE WE

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PICKED THEM.

YOU'RE, WE'RE TAKING ALL YOUR FREE CHOICE AWAY AND YOU'RE CHARGING SOMEBODY ELSE.

A LOT OF THESE WITHOUT THIS COMPANY, IF IT'S EASIER, I GET THE DOLLARS FOR THEM TO, TO TELL ME WHEN I NEED TO GO OUT.

I DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THE SOLVER 0.5 A MONTH, BUT THEY'RE NOT DOING A LOT OF THE TRACKING, BUT THIS COMPANY IS NOT THIS.

BECAUSE IF WE DIDN'T TELL THEM, THEN THEY SEND THEM TO HIM AND YOU TO SPEC THIS BUSINESS.

RIGHT.

WE DIDN'T HAVE THIS TRACKING COMPANY OFFERING THE SERVICE IN MY OPINION, WE'RE RIGHT BACK WHERE WE STARTED FROM.

RIGHT.

I DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY OR THE STAFFING TO DO THIS COMPANY DOES.

WE CAN TELL EVERYBODY ALL DAY LONG YOU'RE REQUIRED TO REPORT, BUT IF YOU DON'T KEEP UP WITH IT, YES, SIR.

WE'RE KEEPING UP WITH IT AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.

AND IT'S GOING TO COME BACK TO, AND LIKE, LIKE COMMISSIONER BARBERS BROUGHT UP IS SOME KIND OF NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE CONTROL THING THAT WE DO HAVE SOME KIND OF LIST AND WHERE WE DO KEEP UP WITH IT.

SURE.

I MEAN, UH, I GET IT THAT WE'RE GOING OUT AND HIRING A COMPANY, BUT IF THAT COMPANY'S GOING TO INVOICE HIM AND THAT COMPANY'S GOING TO CHARGE HIM, THEN WE'RE TELLING THEM TO GO PAY ANOTHER PRIVATE COMPANY TO DO THIS.

WE'RE ORDERING THEM TO, AND I DON'T EVEN, I'M JUST ASKING MINUTE.

REALLY? YEAH.

I'M JUST, I'M JUST, WE HAVE THAT AUTHORITY.

THERE MIGHT NEED TO BE, YOU KNOW, A, UH, AN OPTION WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY IT OR THE COMPANY CAN DIRECT REPORT IF THEY CHOOSE NOT TO DO BUSINESS, AS LONG AS THEY HAVE AN OPTION TO, TO DIRECT REPORT THE REQUIRED INFORMATION UNDER STATE LAW, THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE, BUT THERE HAS TO BE A PENALTY IF THEY DON'T.

THAT'S FINE.

I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT.

WE'LL DO IS WE WILL, UM, WE'LL JUST COME BACK NEXT WEEK.

IF IT'S OKAY TO CHANGE THE ITEM AND ANSWER MORE OF THESE LEGAL QUESTIONS.

AND IF THERE'S ANYBODY HAS ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, PLEASE CONTACT US DURING THE WEEK.

AND IT WAS COMING THIS WEEK SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU ALL WOULD LIKE.

UM, AND YOU WITH THE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR BROWSER.

AND SO HE MAY BILL ANSWER SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

WE ARE UNLIKELY TO MEET NEXT WEEK BECAUSE THE BG YOUNG CONFERENCE IS NEXT WEEK.

SO TELL HIM TO IN TWO WEEKS, ANY OTHER SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.

AND IF IT, THIS CLEARS IT UP, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO TAKE HEAT ONE WAY THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT ORDERING SOMEBODY TO DO SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY SURE I GET IT THAT MOST PEOPLE WOULD PROBABLY NEVER NOTICE IT.

YEAH.

CORRECT.

AND THE INDUSTRY, BECAUSE IT PREVENTS, IT HELPS CUSTOMERS.

UM, IT'S, WHAT'S COMMONLY USED.

IT'S, WE'RE NOT BRINGING SOMETHING THAT'S HIGHLY USED AT LARGE COUNTIES.

USE IT WITH OUR COUNTIES CURRENTLY, LIKE YOU ALL WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER.

UM, WE NEED SOME OF THESE AUTOMATED SYSTEMS. CAN'T JUST HAVE A SPREADSHEET WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT GETS ENTERED OR IT DOESN'T GET ENTERED.

AND THIS, THIS GETTING SOMEBODY TO DO THAT FAR, BUT THAT'S OKAY WITH OUR CITIZENS.

EVERYBODY'S SAFE, ESPECIALLY WITH FIRE PROTECTION, BUT WE WILL COME BACK AND ANSWER SOME OF THESE LEGAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL HAVE.

OKAY.

THEN WHAT I WOULD DO IS AT THIS POINT, CAUSE WE HAVE TWO ITEMS RELATED TO THIS, BUT WE'LL DO THEM ONE BY ONE.

UH, I'D BE CALLING FOR A MOTION TO TABLE ITEM FOUR.

SO WE HAVE THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CAGES OR SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE OPPOSED.

NO MOTION CARRIES.

[5. Randy Richards; Discuss/Consider/Approve agreement with Brycer, Inc. for reporting all commercial inspections and other duties as needed in accordance with the fire code,]

UH, AND, UH, RELATED TO THAT MATTER, IT WOULD MAKE SENSE, OBVIOUSLY THAT, UH, WE WOULD CALL I'LL CALL FOR A MOTION TO TABLE ITEM FIVE.

UM, I DID MOTION.

WE HAD THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER HUNT.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER BARBARA DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU A GREAT DISCUSSION.

UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, WE GET ALL THESE ANSWERS THAT WE NEED AND THEN, UH, WE'LL BE BOTH COMFORTABLE WITH OUR DECISION.

ALL RIGHT.

[6. Raylan Smith; Discuss/Consider award of contract for RFP 21-03: 2019 Kaufman County Bond Program Professional Building Inspection Services; Kaufman County Justice Center & Kaufman County Pet Adoption Center.]

I AM SIX.

UH, RAYMOND SMITH DISCUSSED CAN SHARE AWARD OF CONTRACT RFP 2103, 2019 COFFIN COUNTY BOND PROGRAM, PROFESSIONAL BUILDING INSPECTION SERVICES, COCHRAN COUNTY JUSTICE CENTER, AND COCHRAN COUNTY PET ADOPTION CENTER.

TAKE IT AWAY.

UM, THIS WAS THE RFP FOR OUR THIRD PARTY BUILDING INSPECTION SERVICES FOR BOTH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE JUSTICE CENTER IN PET ADOPTION CENTER.

UM, WE DID HAVE AN EVALUATION COMMITTEE AND THE HIGH SCORE WAS THE BUREAU VERITAS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU ALL SHARE IT, TOS.

I'M SO SORRY.

UM, ANYWAY, UM, SO THAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMITTEE AND WE WOULD

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GO IN AND NEGOTIATE THEIR LUMP SUM, UH, PROPOSAL.

AND IT WILL ALSO INCLUDE, UH, FIRE INSPECTIONS AS WELL.

THERE'LL BE DOING BOTH BUILDING AND FIRE.

UH, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? IF NOT NOW THE INSPECTION FEE.

YEAH.

WELL IS A REALLY GOOD THING.

THAT'S A GOOD THING.

IT HAS ALLOWED THEM TO AS LOUDEST TO, TO CONTRACT FOR THAT BECAUSE, UH, IT'LL, IT'LL JUST WORK OUT A LOT MORE EFFICIENTLY.

I THINK THE CITY OF KAUFFMAN'S VENDOR.

YES, SIR.

YES.

THEY'RE THEY, THEY DO BUILDING INSPECTIONS AND THEY DO ALL SORTS OF SERVICES LIKE THAT.

THEY'RE A BIG OUTFIT FOR A BIG COMPANY.

UH, SO LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, AWARD OF CONTRACT RFP 2,103 FOR INSPECTIONS.

YEAH.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER BARBARA DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

[7. Commissioner Hunt; Discuss/Consider approving Interlocal Agreement with the City of Post Oak Bend for road maintenance, projects and repairs.]

ALL RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER HUNT UP FOR THREE IN A ROW.

DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF POSTAL BAN FOR ROAD MAINTENANCE, PROJECT AND REPAIRS.

UH, WE JUST NEED TO UPDATE THEIR IN LOCAL AGREEMENT IS EXPIRING.

SO WE JUST WANT TO DO IT FOR ANOTHER YEAR THAT, SO I MAKE THAT MOTION THE WEEK.

OKAY.

YEAH.

COMMISSIONER HUNT, UH, MOVES TO APPROVE THAT INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF POST BAN.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

ANY DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE, THOSE OPPOSED NO MOTION CARRIES AUTOMATE, DISCUSS,

[8. Commissioner Hunt; Discuss/Consider approving Interlocal Cooperation Contract with the City of Post Oak Bend for Road Maintenance Plan.]

CONSIDER APPROVING INNER LOCAL COOPERATION CONTRACT WITH THE CITY OF POSTAL BAND FOR ROAD MAINTENANCE PLAN.

UH, YES, UH, THEY, THEY CONTACTED MY OFFICE AND THEY WANTED TO SET UP A MONTHLY MAINTENANCE PLAN FOR THEIR ROADS.

SO WE GOT WITH THE LEGAL AND WE GOT THE CONTRACT TO DO SOMETHING, NOT TO US FOR A ROAD MAINTENANCE PLAN.

AND, UH, THE NEXT ONE WE'RE GOING TO DEAL WITH IS GOING TO BE THE INITIAL COST TO GET IT UP TO A LEVEL POINT WHERE THE BIG COST.

THEN AFTER THAT, IT'S JUST, THIS IS A MAINTENANCE PLAN FOR ONCE A MONTH.

SO MAKE A MOTION WOULD GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ROAD MAINTENANCE PLAN, COMMISSIONER HUNT MOVES TO APPROVE THAT INNER LOCAL COOPERATION CONTRACT, THE CITY OF POSTCODE BAND.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND ONE COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED.

NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

I DON'T TO DISCUSS,

[9. Commissioner Hunt; Discuss/Consider approving Interlocal Cooperation Contract with the City of Post Bend for Initial Patchwork Project.]

CONSIDER APPROVING INNER LOCAL COOPERATION CONTRACT WITH THE CITY OF THE CITY OF POST POST OAK BANNED FOR INITIAL PATCHWORK PROJECT.

SO THIS, AGAIN, A LACK OF WHAT I SAID, THIS IS JUST THE INITIAL BIG COST, UH, TO GET IT TO A CERTAIN POINT AND THEN WE'LL MAINTAIN THAT.

SO I'M LIKE EMOTIONALLY MOVE FORWARD.

WE HAVE A MOTION COMMISSIONER HUNT TO APPROVE THAT, UH, IN A LOCAL COOPERATION CONTRACT WITH THE CITY OF POSTCODE BAND.

IS THERE A SECOND? NO.

SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED NO MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM 10

[10. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider approving North Central Texas Housing Finance Corporation General Certificate regarding Multifamily Housing Revenue Bonds Series 2021A, Taxable Series 2021B.]

IS MINE DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING MORE CENTRAL TEXAS HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION, GENERAL CERTIFICATE REGARDING MULTIFAMILY HOUSING REVENUE BONDS SERIES 2021 A AND TAXABLE SERIES 2021 B A REASONABLE PERSON WOULD ASK WHY IN THE WORLD THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO OCCUR IN WALKS APACHE AND ELLIS COUNTY.

WE'VE DONE THIS BEFORE.

WE DID THIS NOT LONG AGO FOR A PROJECT IN ROCKWALL COUNTY THAT THIS, THIS HAS TO DO WITH A FINANCE CORPORATION, UH, OF WHICH WE HAVE A, WE PARTICIPATE IN THIS IT'S FOR FINANCING, THESE, UH, PROJECTS.

I THINK THEY'RE ALL BEEN SENIOR CITIZEN RELATED PROJECTS.

AND SO ALL THIS ACTION DOES IS GIVES THIS CORPORATION, THE AUTHORITY TO FLOAT, UH, THESE, TO ISSUE THESE BONDS OR SELL THESE BONDS.

UH, FORMER COUNTY JUDGE WAYNE GENT IS, HAS BEEN OUR LONGSTANDING REPRESENTATIVE ON THIS, UH, THIS CORPORATION'S BOARD.

AND, UM, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO IMPACT TO THE COUNTY.

IT'S A, THIS AGAIN, THIS WOULD BE A PROJECT THAT THEY WOULD SELL BONDS FOR AND THE ELLIS COUNTY, BUT SINCE WE'RE A MEMBER OF THIS GROUP, WE WOULD NEED TO APPROVE IT.

YEAH, YEAH.

THAT GUY HAVING A MEETING TODAY.

OH, DO THEY? YEAH.

UH, SO, UH, YEAH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS TO, UH, TO APPROVE THAT, UH, CERTIFICATE, THAT GENERAL CERTIFICATE.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER BARBARA DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE,

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THOSE OPPOSED, NO MOTION CARRIES OVER SIGNATURES, BUT THEY'RE JUST FOR ME TO SIGN.

SO, OKAY.

[11. Auditor; Discuss/Consider line item transfers.]

THAT BRINGS US TO OUR AUDITOR ITEM 11, UH, LOOKING FOR A MOTION FOR LINE ITEM TRANSFERS.

WE'LL GO, I'M SORRY.

KAREN, YOU HAVEN'T EVEN HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK TO THEM.

THEY'RE MAILED TO YOU EARLIER.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UM, THAT TRANSFER FOR THE SALARY THING, UH, IS JUST TAKING IT FROM ONE LINE OUT ON TO ANOTHER WHERE SHE IS CODED TO BECAUSE YOU APPROVED TO CHANGE, BUT THE BUDGET WASN'T CHANGED.

SO WE JUST INVERTED THAT AMOUNT.

THE OTHER IS A BUDGET AMENDMENT, UM, THAT RAYLAN'S TRACKING TO DO WITH A NEW VEHICLE FOR MAINTENANCE THAT GOT JUST MESSED UP AT WALMART.

SO, UH, WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO COME UP WITH SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO HELP GET EVERYTHING PUT BACK TOGETHER, BUT THAT WAS 7,200 REAR RECEIVED FROM THE INSURANCE COMPANY, LESS THAN A THOUSAND DOLLARS.

SO WE GOT 6,000, 200 AND SOMETHING TO HELP REPAIR THAT.

RAELYNN.

YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ADD TO THAT? YEAH.

AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO TRACK THE COSTS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, WE'LL DISCUSS A LOT OF THIS WITH, UH, VEHICLE POLICY, BUT ESPECIALLY WITH OUR NEW PUPILS, WE'LL BE TAKING THOSE TO DEALERSHIPS, BODY AUTO REPAIRS.

UM, SO JUST, YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE AN INCREASE IN SOME OF THOSE WRECKED VEHICLE REPAIRS OVER WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST.

UM, JUST SIMPLY SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE IT HAS BEEN MADE MODEL REPLACEMENTS ARE THE SAME AND WE CAN TRACK ALL OF THEM.

THAT'S REALLY A RESALE VALUE THING.

ISN'T IT SURE DOES.

UM, OKAY.

QUESTION.

SORRY, INSURANCE TOO.

CAUSE THEY KEEP HAVING WRECKS QUESTIONS FOR THE AUDITOR ABOUT LATERAL TRANSFERS.

IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED? SO MOVE, WE HAVE THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER CAGE, UH, IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER BARBARA DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED NO MOTION CARRIES ITEM 12

[12. Auditor; Discuss/Consider claims for payment.]

FOR THE AUDITOR AGAIN, DISCUSS, CONSIDER CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT.

YOUR CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT OR 338,755 34 WITH A PAYROLL OF 1,000,003 82, THREE 96 OH TWO FOR A TOTAL OF 1,721,151 36 QUESTIONS.

IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT AS PRESENTED ON MIKE MOTION? WE HAVE THAT MOTION FOR APPROVAL FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

IS THERE A SECOND SECOND FOR COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO MOTION CARRIES.

UH, THANK YOU.

[13. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider exiting regular meeting and entering executive session.]

SO NEXT ITEM DISCUSSING, CONSIDER EXITING REGULAR MEETING AND ENTERING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

IS THERE A MOTION TO LEAVE OUR MEETING AND GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION? I'LL MAKE THAT A MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER CAGE DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED.

NO,

[14. Executive Session: Pursuant to Section 551.072 of the Texas Government Code, the Commissioners Court will meet in closed session to consult with attorney regarding real estate negotiations.]

WE ARE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION FIVE 51.072 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.

THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT WILL MEET IN CLOSED SESSION TO CONSULT WITH ATTORNEY REGARDING REAL ESTATE NEGOTIATIONS, UH, WOULD ASK FOR KAREN AND RAELYNN TO STICK WITH US.

AND, UH, THE REST OF Y'ALL DON'T HAVE TO GO HOME, WHICH CAN'T STAY HERE.

READY? ALL RIGHT.

UH, LOOKING FOR

[15. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider exiting executive session and entering back into regular meeting.]

EMOTION, UH, TO COME BACK INTO REGULAR SESSION FROM AN EXECUTIVE SESSION WILL MAKE A MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND COMMISSIONER BARBERS ARE SECOND I'LL SECOND.

THE SECOND ONE COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED NO MOTION CARRIES.

UH, WE, THERE WAS NO ACTION TAKEN IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

[16. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider taking any action needed as a result of executive session.]

ARE THERE ANY MOTIONS COMING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION? YES, JUDGE.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

OKAY.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE, THAT THE COUNTY PURCHASING AGENT BE AUTHORIZED TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT WITH, UH, UH, THE VENDOR M AND D SERVICES AS OUR REAL ESTATE AS THE COUNTY'S REAL ESTATE CONSULTANT.

UH, WE HAVE THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER IN, IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER BARBARA DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

[17. Adjourn Regular Meeting]

YEAH.

ADJOURN.

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THIS MEETING, MR. PHILLIPS MAKES A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND SEGMENT COMMISSIONER BARBARA DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR.

AYE.

AYE.

I SUPPOSE.

NO.

HI.

MY QUESTION WAS WE ARE GOING TO BE OUT OF POCKET NEXT WEEK IN A MEETING.

I'M GOING TO BE HERE, BUT THESE PEOPLE ARE LEAVING.

I NEED TO KNOW THAT.

SO I'LL KNOW HOW TO DO.

I BOUGHT PAPER.

I DIDN'T KNOW EVERYBODY WAS GOING.

I THOUGHT THEY DID BECAUSE I GOT ABOUT $800 MILLION, $8 MILLION TO SEND OUT FOR DEBT PAYMENTS.

AS LONG AS WE GOT THE MONEY IN THE BANK, THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERS.

NOW, MICHELLE, LIKE YOU NEED TO COORDINATE THAT WITH A TREASURER.