* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [Call to Order] [00:00:02] ALL RIGHT, HERE WE GO. THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE COFFIN COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT IS CALLED TO ORDER IT. TODAY IS TUESDAY, MARCH 23RD, 2021 NINE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING. AND WE WERE IN THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING ROOM IN THE COURTHOUSE ANNEX. WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT WITH ALL MEMBERS OF THE COURT HERE, UH, AS IS OUR PRACTICE. WE'LL START OFF WITH AN INVOCATION OFFER BY PASTOR KYLE, IF YOU'LL STEP UP, SIR. AND THEN, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER BARBARA IS GOING TO OFFER IS GOING TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE. PLEASE STAND GOOD MORNING, FATHER. WE THANK YOU LORD FOR SUCH A AWESOME DAY THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US THIS MORNING. FATHER IS SUCH A BEAUTIFUL DAY OUT THERE. FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU HELP US TO RECOGNIZE THE FULLNESS AND WHOLENESS OF YOU AND EVERYTHING THAT THERE IS BE WITH THOSE THAT FATHER, GOD THAT ARE MOURNING THE LOSS TO LOVED ONES THIS MORNING, FATHER TO BE WITH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF OUR COUNTY EMPLOYEES, FATHER, AND FOLLOWED MOST OF ALL, JUST HAVE YOUR WILL AND YOUR WAY WE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US. AND LORD, WE GIVE YOU PRAISE HONOR, AND GLORY IN THE WONDERFUL NAME OF JESUS CHRIST. AMEN. PUBLIC ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE Y INVISIBLE. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU HERE, PARTICULARLY FOR SOME OF OUR SPECIAL GUESTS THAT WE'LL BE INTRODUCING IN JUST A MOMENT. UM, WE, WE ALWAYS MAKE A SPACE ON OUR AGENDA AT THIS TIME FOR COMMENTS FROM VISITORS AND, UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS FROM ANYBODY, SO I GUESS NO ONE IS ASKING TO COME SPEAK. UM, [1. ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.] NEXT ITEM IS ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE. I HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS. UM, THE FIRST ONE IS, UH, JUST REMINDING EVERYONE THAT THIS AFTERNOON AT THREE O'CLOCK OUT AT THE, UH, THE ACREAGE THAT THE COUNTY OWNS, THAT WE W WHERE THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IS LOCATED THREE O'CLOCK TODAY. WE WERE HAVING A GROUNDBREAKING FOR THE PET ADOPTION CENTER. UH, IT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY NICE EVENT. UH, W WE PUT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT INTO IT. WE'VE ASKED OUR ARCHITECTURE AND CONSTRUCTION MANAGER TO, TO HELP US WITH THAT. AND IT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY, REALLY NICE THING. AND ANYONE WHO'S ABLE TO GET THERE AT THREE O'CLOCK PROBABLY LAST ABOUT 30 OR 45 MINUTES. IT LOOKS LIKE THE WEATHER IS GOING TO BE PERFECT. UM, NEXT ITEM I HAVE HAS TO DO WITH SOMETHING I'M SURE THE COMMISSIONERS ARE PROBABLY ALL AWARE OF IS THE CONGRESS HAS PASSED ANOTHER ACT OF LEGISLATION HAVING TO DO WITH PROVIDING FUNDING, UH, FOR COVID AND COVID IMPACT. THE APPARENTLY THE, THE NUMBERS THAT I SAW WAS THAT COFFIN COUNTY WILL BE ALLOCATED $26 MILLION TO SPEND OVER THE COURSE OF FROM NOW, OR WE'RE NOT READY. WE WERE NOT BRIEFED ON ALL THE RULES AND ADMINISTRATION YET, BUT WE HAVE UNTIL THE END OF THE YEAR IN 2024, THIS WAS SOMEWHAT OF A PROBLEM LAST TIME, BECAUSE WE WERE, WE HAD TO REALLY RUSH IN ORDER TO WAIT TO REALLY RUSH IN ORDER TO EXPEND THE FUNDS. UH, AND I'M THANKFUL THAT WE HAVE LOTS OF TIME. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RULES ARE. UH, THAT'S NOT REALLY BEEN PUBLISHED YET. UM, THERE ARE SOME GUIDELINES, BUT THERE'S NO SPECIFIC RULES AND PROCESSES, UH, FOR THE COMMISSIONERS I, WE MET YESTERDAY, I MET WITH STEVE AND, UH, KAREN MCLEOD AND RAELYNN AND JERRY. UM, AND WE'VE, WE'LL ASK THE CIVILS TO JOIN US NEXT TIME TOO. WE WANT TO LAY OUT A PROCESS. SO WE HAVE PLENTY OF TIME. WE WANT TO LAY OUT A PROCESS BECAUSE I THINK AS YOU KNOW, FROM PROBABLY COMMENTS YOU'VE HEARD FROM KAREN, UH, LAST TIME, THIS WAS PRETTY CHAOTIC AND EVERYTHING WAS JUST SORT OF AD HOC. YOU KNOW, WE WERE JUST SCRAMBLING THE WHOLE TIME, BUT WE HAVE PLENTY OF TIME. NOW. WE WANT TO LAY OUT A REALLY GOOD PROCESS. WE'RE NOT JUST, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT IN THIS GROUP, WHAT THE FUNDS WOULD BE USED FOR JUST HOW WE'RE GOING TO, UH, DETERMINE IF SOMETHING IS QUALIFIED AND WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO PURSUE IT. WELL, THAT'S WHAT YOU REALLY HAVE TO WATCH OUT FOR IS FEMA. AND THE GOVERNMENT IS VERY SPECIFIC TO GET REIMBURSEMENT. ABSOLUTELY. SO AS LONG AS A REPRESENTATIVE IN DOCUMENT ALL YOUR COMMUNICATIONS WITH THEM, BECAUSE FACES CHANGE, OUR COMPANIES CHANGED THAT THEY USE, THEY CONTRACT WITH, AND IT TURNS INTO A NIGHTMARE. AND, UH, AND STEVE, YOU ALREADY GOT SOME IDEAS. WE'VE ALREADY TALKED [00:05:01] ABOUT THAT, ABOUT HOW WE'RE GONNA NAVIGATE THAT THIS TIME. AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO IN THE NEXT COMING WEEKS, WE'LL ROLL OUT A, UH, A GOOD PROCESS AS TO HOW WE'LL GET THAT DONE AND BE DONE CAREFULLY BIGGEST NIGHTMARE THAT I HAD LAST TIME. AND I THINK KAREN, I KNOW, SHARED THIS WAS, WE NEVER REALLY WERE SURE IF WHAT WE WERE DOING WAS GOING TO BE PERMITTED OR WHETHER WE WERE GOING TO BE SUBJECT TO AN AUDIT IN A YEAR OR TWO. AND THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, GIVE US THAT MONEY BACK, BUT HOPEFULLY WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH AT THIS TIME, I'M IN THE MIDDLE OF THE 26TH OF MAY AND THE PAINT BANKING, ANYTHING WE DID WRONG. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. SO IS ANYONE ELSE HAVING ANY ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE, JUDGE, I'D JUST LIKE TO ADD TO YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THIS FUNDING, THAT, THAT I HAVE HAD SEVERAL INQUIRIES FROM INQUIRIES FROM, UH, LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT CERTAINLY ARE INTERESTED IN ANY OPPORTUNITIES, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT MIGHT COME OUT OF THAT. SO I HOPE WE KEEP OUR EYE ON THAT BALL. YEAH, WELL, AGAIN, THE GOOD THING WE GOT, WE GOT LOTS OF TIME THIS TIME, SO WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL COME UP WITH A GOOD PROCESS AND THEN WE'LL COME UP WITH GOOD, HOPEFULLY GOOD PROGRAMS. UM, IF THERE'S NO OTHER ROUTINE CORRESPONDENT, NEXT [2. CONSENT AGENDA] ITEM IS THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH, UH, WE ONLY HAVE ONE ITEM WHICH IS DISCUSSED, CONSIDER APPROVING THE TREASURER'S MONTHLY REPORT. UH, DOES ANYONE CARE TO DISCUSS THAT ITEM IN DETAIL? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, TO ACCEPT THE TREASURER'S REPORT. THAT MOTION IS FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND SECOND WITH COMMISSIONER BARBARA, DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE, THOSE OPPOSED. NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES NOW. WE'VE GOT SOMETHING KIND OF FUN GOING ON HERE. UM, AND I GUESS WE'LL, [3. Judge Richards; Discuss special presentation to School Districts in Kaufman County.] WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT HERE TODAY. WE HAVE, UH, AS YOU REMEMBER, OF COURSE WE, WE ALLOCATED SOME OF OUR CARES ACT MONEY TO SUPPORT THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS. UM, AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY OTHER ORGANIZATION IN THE COUNTRY THAT HAD, AND HAS HAD MORE CHALLENGES IN MANAGING THIS PROCESS, TAKING CARE OF ALL OF OUR KIDS AND TRYING TO SUSTAIN EDUCATION. AND I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY PLACE IN AMERICA WHERE THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE DONE A BETTER JOB THAN WHAT OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE DONE. SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. SO I HAVE CHECKS AND I THINK I'LL COME DOWN TO THE FRONT END. UH, I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY. I HAVEN'T TAKEN A LEVEL OF SEEN EXACTLY WHO'S HERE, BUT I'LL, I'LL CALL YOU UP ONE AT A TIME. AND IF YOU FELT ON MINE, I THINK EVERYBODY WAS SORT OF LIKE TO HAVE PICTURES TO, TO, YOU KNOW, KEEP THIS IN THE HISTORY BOOKS. AND SO HOW MANY OF YOU DOWN HERE AND THEN THE COMMISSIONERS, IF Y'ALL GET ARE BEHIND US, MAYBE WE CAN ALL GIVE THEM THE PICTURE. OKAY. SO WE'LL MAINTAIN OUR SIX FOOT ANTON. SO WE'RE DOING THIS ALPHABET WE PURCHASED IS CRANDALL. ISA. YOU WANT ME TO GIVE YOU YOUR CHECK OR SOMEBODY? ELSE'S SHE KNOWS THE ONES THAT ARE BIGGER. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. I THINK IT'S GREAT. WHEN YOU FELL, DOES EVERYBODY STAY UP HERE? RIGHT? WE HAVE TWO CAMERAS HERE. HE HAD ORDERS FROM HIS BALLS OFF AN ISD. HE'S NOT THE ONLY ONE WITH THE ORDERS FROM HIS BOSS OR PEOPLE. OH, YOU'RE WELCOME. KIM, GO TO CAMP WITH US. WE GET TO KEEP THAT . THANK YOU. IF YOU WANT, I'LL [00:10:01] TAKE THE KEMP AND GIVE IT TO SOMEBODY. RIGHT? VERY GENEROUS. A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHEELS PULLING IS PARTLY IN THE COFFIN COLUMN AGAIN. ALL RIGHT. NOW I'LL TRY TO GET IT. THE PRESSURE'S ON BIG SHOT. THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YEAH. I KNOW WE GOT TO DO IT. WE GOT IT. I GUESS WE OUGHT TO MAKE A PUBLIC DISCLAIMER THAT WE'VE ALL HAD OUR SHOTS WHERE WE'VE HAD THEM. I JUST GOTTA SAY, Y'ALL NEED TO GET BACK TO WORK SCHOOL, GET BACK SCHOOL. ALL RIGHT. [4. Peter Esposito; Discuss/Consider approving water distribution procedures governing fire hydrant placement for single-family & duplex housing developments in unincorporated areas.] NEXT UP, PETER ESPOSITO FOR US TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING WATER DISTRIBUTION PROCEDURES, GOVERNING FIRE HYDRANT PLACEMENT FOR SINGLE FAMILY AND DUPLEX HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS IN UNINCORPORATED AREAS. HELLO THERE, MR. ESPOSITO? YEAH. GOT IT ALL IN THERE. GOOD MORNING, JUDGE. GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. UM, THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT PROCEDURES FOR SUPPLYING WATER AND FIRE HYDRANTS TO NEW DEVELOPMENTS. YES. PLEASE WONDER EACH ONE. I GUESS, UM, OUR PROCEDURES HAVE NOT CHANGED BY THE WAY. THERE'S THE SAME PROCEDURES WE HAVE ALWAYS HAD. UM, OUR PROCEDURES FOLLOW ALL OF THE RULES AND REGULATIONS OF THE STATE OF TEXAS. WE ARE REGULATED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS. WE ARE A SPECIAL UTILITY DISTRICT. UM, WE FOLLOW ALL UP TO RWA RULES AND RWA RULES, UH, TCEQ RULES, PUC RULES. OKAY. SO WE HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE LOOKING AT US. UH, OUR, OUR PROGRAM FOR WATER DISTRIBUTION, UH, HAS NOT CHANGED NEW LINES THAT WE PUT IN ON COUNTY ROADS AND ON STATE ROADS ARE ALL MINIMUM SIX INCH LINES SO THAT THEY CAN, THEY CAN, UH, SUPPORT FIRE SUPPRESSION. WE ARE NOT REQUIRED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS TO SUPPLY WATER SUPPRESSION. UH, BUT WE DO IT BECAUSE WE FEEL IT IS RIGHT FOR OUR RESIDENTS. UH, IT ALSO HELPS OUT WITH YOUR HOUSING, YOUR INSURANCE COSTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. SO WE DO IT BECAUSE WE FEEL IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. UH, I WANTED TO PRESENT THESE, I THINK YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN THEM BECAUSE THEY PROBABLY CAME OUT WITH THE AGENDA FORM. UH, THE, THE, THE QUENCH ARTICLE THAT IS IN THERE KIND OF EXPLAINS WHAT WATER COMPANIES DO AND WHAT WE HAVE TO DO. AND WE DO FAR ABOVE WHAT WE HAVE TO DO. UM, IF YOU'RE HAVING ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HAD TIME TO READ IT BEFOREHAND OR NOT, BUT I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER IT. I JUST WANTED EVERYBODY TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE PLAN TO DO OR WHAT WE ARE DOING. OUR FIRE MARSHALL HAD ANYTHING HE WANTED TO COMMENT ON, ON THIS OR RANDOM, SAME THINGS WITH YOUR GENDER ON GENTLEMEN. UH, MR. ESPOSITO IS 100% CORRECT. UH, THEY ARE THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT ENTITY. THEY [00:15:01] ARE REGULATED BY THE STATE. UH, WE DO NOT IMPOSE ANY REGULATIONS ON ANY WATER DISTRICT IN THIS COUNTY. SO I WAS KINDA SURPRISED TO SEE WHY THEY WERE WANTING US TO APPROVE THEIR PROCESSES, BEING A KNOWN GOVERNMENT ENTITY. THEY CAN PRETTY MUCH DO AS THEY PLEASE, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THEIR LOANS. UM, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO BE CLEAR TO THE COURT, WE HAVE NOT, AND WILL NOT IMPOSE ANY REQUIREMENTS UPON ANY WATER UTILITY DISTRICT, UH, THAT FALLS UPON THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE DEVELOPER OF A PROPERTY. IF A DEVELOPER CHOOSES TO USE THE PUBLIC WATER LINES, THAT IS AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN HE AND THAT PUBLIC WATER UTILITY, UH, IF HE CHOOSES OR THEY CHOOSE NOT TO, THEN THERE ARE MANY OTHER ALTERNATIVES FOR A DEVELOPER TO OBTAIN THAT WATER THROUGH PRIVATE STORAGE, PRIVATE WATER LINES, PRIVATE HYDRANTS, UH, IT'S JUST THE MAJORITY OF THE DEVELOPERS. AND AS WITH EVERY OTHER WATER UTILITY DISTRICT IN THIS COUNTY, THEY EVOLVED, YOU KNOW, PROVIDED THEM, UH, HAD NO ISSUES WITH THE WATER FLOW. UH, AS FAR AS FIRE DEPARTMENT USE, YOU KNOW, THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS ARE TRAINED. UM, SOME OF HIS DOCUMENTS DID INDICATE IT IS A DELICATE PROCESS ON HOW TO OPEN AND CLOSE A LAND. THAT IS CORRECT. YOU CAN RUPTURE LINES IF NOT DONE PROPERLY. THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS DO GO THROUGH THAT, THAT TRAINING JUST AS HIS WATER DEPARTMENT DOES. SO JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T SEE A NEED TO APPROVE ANYTHING. THEY'RE THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT ENTITY, AND, UH, WE CAN ACCEPT IT AND WE CAN ACKNOWLEDGE IT. AND, UH, WE'LL CONTINUE TO GO. UH, IF AT SOME POINT IN TIME, THERE IS A, A SUBDIVISION THAT GOES IN AND, UH, THEY CHOOSE TO GO WITH A WATER LINES. AGAIN, THEY'VE SATISFIED THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE FIRE CODE BY INSTALLING THEM, HOW THEY'RE USED, AND IT'S GOING TO PAY BETWEEN THAT WATER DISTRICT AND THAT FIRE DEPARTMENT. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? I, I THINK REALLY, AND I KNOW WHENEVER HE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THAT Y'ALL ARE Y'ALL'S OWN INDIVIDUAL UTILITY DISTRICT, GOVERNMENTAL AGENCY REALLY Y'ALL I'M ON THE COURT DOCKET. IT SAYS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER, AND Y'ALL DON'T WANT ME TO DISCUSSING IT, CONSIDER WHEN I SAW Y'ALL FACES, BUT THAT'S HOW IT CAME TO US. AND WE WERE LIKE, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL, Y'ALL'S OWN ENTITY. Y'ALL SAID Y'ALL WAS ON POLICIES. WE DON'T NEED TO APPROVE THOSE POLICIES. SO YOU'RE JUST, THIS IS EDUCATION FOR THE COMMISSIONERS FOR WHAT Y'ALL DO. AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, AND THIS IS PAULA WEBER, BY THE WAY, WHO WAS A GENERAL MANAGER FOR APRIL SPRING, SPECIAL UTILITY DISTRICT. AND ALSO SOON TO TAKE OVER DISTRICT 12 DIRECTOR FOR TRW A BY THE WAY, THERE WAS ONLY 14 OF THEM IN THE STATE. AND SHE'S GOING TO BE ONE. UM, THIS, THIS IS JUST MEANT TO LET YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHEN A DEVELOPER COMES IN, WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE PRESENTED WITH BECAUSE THEY WANT A COST. I MEAN, THE FIRST THING THEY DO IS THEY WALK IN AND SAY, HOW MUCH IS IT GOING TO COST ME TO DO THIS? WELL, WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A PLAT YET. IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO GIVE YOU A COST. SO WHEN THESE PEOPLE COME IN, PAULA AND POLISHES BRING ME IN THE PLANT, THEN IT GOES TO OUR ENGINEER, THEN OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, THEN EVERYBODY ELSE THAT'S ON THIS LIST, UH, TO GET APPROVED. BUT THIS IS WHAT WE'RE NOT. IF SOME DEVELOPER COMES IN AND SAYS, HEY, I WANT A FIRE HYDRANT. UH, EVERY X NUMBER OF FEET, WE'RE GOING TO PUT HIM WITH EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT TO PAY FOR. BUT, UH, BUT THEY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE COST TO THEIR WATER CUSTOMERS IS GOING TO BE HIGHER THAN A MONTHLY COST TO THE REST OF OUR CUSTOMERS, BECAUSE IT TAKES MORE MAN HOURS, LABOR AND MATERIALS TO GO OUT AND FLUSH ALL THESE HYDRANTS TO PUT ALL THAT WATER UNDERGROUND, UH, THE HOURS THAT ARE SPENT THAT DEPRECIATION AND REPLACEMENT OF THESE HYDRANTS DOWN THE ROAD. SO WE FIGURE ALL THAT IN, AND, AND IT'S NOT FAIR TO THE REST OF OUR CUSTOMERS TO PICK UP THE COST FOR DEVELOPERS. THEY HAVE TO LET ME ASK YOU THIS, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WHEN YOU'RE FLUSHING A LINE, YOU'RE FLUSHING AT THE END OF THE LINE OR SOMEWHERE TO WHERE YOU CAN FLUSH THE WHOLE LINE. SO IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER IF YOU HAVE 10 FIRE HYDRANTS OR THREE ON THAT LINE, YOU'RE FLUSHING THE LINE. YOU'RE NOT FLUSHING EVERY INDIVIDUAL FIRE HYDRANT ON THAT LINE. THEY HAVE TO BE FLUSHED AT LEAST ONCE, AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR, JUST TO GET THE SAND AND OTHER THINGS OUT OF THERE. SO THAT WHEN THAT WATER IS PUMPED, EITHER INTO A FIRE TRUCK OR, BUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS A HYDRANT MAINTENANCE, CORRECT. INSTEAD OF FLUSHING A LINE, YOU'RE DOING HYDRANT MAINTENANCE. OKAY. I MEAN, THAT'S THE WHY WE TERMED IT IN THE CAR. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE HYDRANTS ARE OPERATIONAL. YEP. YEAH. CAUSE THEY OPENED SOMETIMES [00:20:01] TRASH DOES GET STUCK IN THE VALVE AND YOU HAVE TO FLIP ALL, I CAN ASK THE QUESTION, ARE THEY WANTING A RECORDED PLAT OR JUST A PLAT OF THE DEVELOPMENT PRIOR TO APPROVAL? UH, WE JUST ASKED THEM FOR A, UM, CLINIC PRELIMINARY PLAN. YEAH. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY BECAUSE THEN WE'RE STUCK IN LIMBO BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET APPROVED WITHOUT A FIRE FLOW OR WATER. SO I'M JUST CLARIFYING. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, I THINK THERE HAS BEEN JUST SO MUCH CONFUSION OVER THIS 2018 FIRE CODE AND HOW THE FIRE MARSHALL'S OFFICE IS APPLYING IT TO DIFFERENT SUBDIVISIONS. FOR INSTANCE, THE ONE THAT WE HAD ON 27, 28, WE HAVE 12 OR 13 FIRE HYDRANTS FOR 30 LOTS. AND SOME OF THEM MAY BE, UH, HAVE TWO FIRE HYDRANTS ON THEIR PROPERTY. UM, AND THEN THERE WAS ANOTHER SUBDIVISION IN ELMO WHERE THEY PUT FIRE PUGS ON A FOUR-INCH LINE. UM, FIRE HYDRANTS, MINIMUM STANDARD IS SIX INCH LINE, BUT IF ARE APPLIED TO SMALLER AND IT DOESN'T, THE FLOWS ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT, UM, I GUESS WE, WE NEED SOME, SOME EXACTNESS ABOUT THIS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST NOT CONSISTENT IN HOW THE, HOW IT'S APPLIED. SO I KNOW WE ALL HAD A MEETING NOT LONG AGO, BUT BEFORE THE HOLIDAYS AND WE WERE GONNA FOLLOW UP WITH ANOTHER MEETING AND WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT YET. SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ALL GET TOGETHER AGAIN AND TALK ABOUT THIS FIRE CODE AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO APPLY IT TO EVERYBODY FAIRLY AND, UM, UH, SEE WHERE WE CAN GO FROM THERE, CONVERSATIONS ABOUT CONSISTENCY. SO I THINK THAT'S, EVERYBODY'S YEAH, MAYBE THAT'S ONE OF OUR, CERTAINLY ONE OF OUR TOP PRIORITIES IS THAT WE BE CONSISTENT ACROSS THE COUNTY BECAUSE THIS, THESE SITUATIONS ARE GOING TO COME TO US AT A MUCH HIGHER VELOCITY EVERY MONTH AND THEY HAVE BEEN. SO, UM, WE, WE, WE, WE WANT EVERYBODY, WE WANT SAFETY IS THE PREMIER THING, OF COURSE, BUT WE DO WANT TO BE FAIR AND CONSISTENT WITH ACROSS THE COUNTY. AND WE KNOW IN THE FIRE CODE THAT THERE ARE, UH, THERE IS ROOM FOR THE, UH, FIRE OFFICIAL TO MAKE, UM, VARIANCES IN RURAL AREAS. AND SO WE'RE ASKING THAT THAT BE APPLIED BECAUSE WHERE THE INCONSISTENCIES, RIGHT. AND THAT MAY BE THAT VERY WELL MAY BE. BUT IF YOU'RE GOING, IF, IF YOU'RE NOT ALLOWING US TO HAVE AREAS, BUT YOU LET ANOTHER WATER SYSTEM HAVE AREAS, I THINK THAT THEY NEED TO BE LOOKED AT ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS AND SEE WATER SYSTEMS. THE RURAL WATER SYSTEMS ARE ONLY THE ONLY WAY PEOPLE GOT WATER WAS VERY, UH, FAST AND INEXPENSIVE. SO YES, THEIR WATERLINES ARE GOING TO BE UNDERSIZED, BUT AS THEY HAVE GROWN LIKE OUR SYSTEM, RIGHT NOW, WE WON'T PUT ANYTHING IN LESS THAN A SIX INCH WATER LINE. THAT'S SOMETHING OUR BOARD DECIDED SEVERAL YEARS BACK BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT WE WERE GOING TO START SEEING DEVELOPMENT AND WE WANTED TO BE PREPARED FOR FIRE HYDRANTS, WHERE WE COULD, BUT NOT ALL AREAS WILL SUPPORT THAT. AND TO UPGRADE ALL OUR WATER LINES WOULD BE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND NOT ALL RURAL WATER SYSTEMS CAN'T AFFORD THAT YOUR CONSTITUENTS COULDN'T AFFORD THAT. SO WE'RE JUST ASKING THAT WE TRY TO FINE TUNE THIS FIRE CODE A LITTLE BIT AND, AND, UH, ALL WORKED TOGETHER. I KNOW MY SYSTEM IN PARTICULAR WORKS WITH DEVELOPMENT SURFACES ALL THE TIME. ANY, ANY LANDOWNER THAT IS IN THE PROCESS OF SUBDIVIDING LAND, WE TELL THEM THEY HAVE TO GO TO KAUFMAN COUNTY BEFORE WE CAN LOOK AT THEIR PLANS, GET ALL THE RULES FROM KAUFMAN COUNTY AND HOW, HOW IT'S GOING TO APPLY TO THEIR SITUATION. SO MONIQUE AND I, AND MY STAFF TALK OFTEN, AND WE WANT TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY. SO WE, BUT WE DO NEED TO FINE TUNE SOME THINGS HERE. IF YOU HAVE TO HELP US OUT WITH THAT, WE'RE WORKING, WE'RE CONCERNED MAINLY WITH, WITH THE SAFETY OF OUR AREA AND THE SAFETY OF OUR WATER SYSTEM. AND AS FOLLOWS, SHUT ON THIS ONE DEVELOPMENT ON THREE 46, 27, 28, I THINK THERE'S 13 OR 14 FIRE HYDRANTS. I REFER TO IT AS THE FIRE HYDRANT FARM. UH, BUT DO YOU ALSO HAVE TO REMEMBER, ALL OF OUR EASEMENTS ARE INSIDE OUR PROPERTY LINES, SO PRIVATE PROPERTY. SO WE PUT IN ALL THESE FIRE HYDRANTS AND NIXON THAT HAPPENS AS A RESIDENCE COME UP AND THEY PUT UP A FENCE AND THE FIRE HYDROGENS ARE INSIDE THE FENCE. SO WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT TOO. IT DOESN'T DO ANY GOOD TO HAVE TURF TAKING FIRE HYDRANTS OUT THERE [00:25:01] WHEN WE'RE ALL SITTING HERE INSIDE SOMEBODY'S FENCE. SO WELL, THEY BRING DAYS YOU CAN EXTEND THEM OUT INTO THE EASEMENT, RIGHT? WELL, WE TRY, WE TRY TO STAY OUT OF THE CONNIE AND AND JUST THE WATER SUPPLY LINE. SO, I MEAN, IT'S LUDICROUS TO PUT A FIRE HYDRANT ON PRIVATE PROPERTY WHEN YOU CAN JUST TAP ON TO IT AND YOU HIT ANY, AND YOU BRING IT BACK OUT TO THE EASEMENT WHERE THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS HAVE ACCESS TO IT. WELL, OUR FIRE HYDRANTS, WHEN THE DEVELOPER BUILDS IT AND THEY PAY FOR THE FIRE HYDRANTS, THEY CONVEY EVERYTHING TO THE WATER SYSTEM AND THAT EVERYTHING THAT IS IN THAT DEVELOPMENT IS ON EAST OUR EASEMENT THAT THEY HAVE CONVEYED TO US. SO IT IS GOING TO BE ON A PRIVATE IS EASEMENT IS NOT GOING TO BE IN THE COUNTY RIGHT AWAY. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE IN A DLT RIGHT AWAY. 95% OF OUR WATER LINES ARE ON PRIVATE, EASTERN, UNDERSTAND YOUR LINES ARE, BUT TO HYDRATE AND THE HYDRANTS ARE THERE WITH THEM. WELL, YEP. YOU NEED TO, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU DO MORE PLANNING TO MAKE, GIVE IT ACCESS TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS ON PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY. IF YOU THINK A PROPERTY OWNER IS GOING TO FENCE IT OFF AND SAY, NOBODY ELSE CAN YOU, WELL, I WOULD THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE, UH, AND THE, AND THE HOMEOWNER OR THE LANDOWNER, BUT FOR US IT'S IT'S RIGHT. YEAH. SO THIS BE DEALING WITH SOME RESTRICTIONS TOO. THE HELPERS THAT THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT, I WAS JUST CONFUSED. CAUSE I DIDN'T THINK THAT THEY, SINCE THAT EASEMENT IS GRANTED TO YOU, THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO PUT A FENCE IN THAT EASEMENT, CORRECT. OR NO, THEY CAN, THEY CAN, THEY CAN'T PUT THE, THEY CAN'T PUT IT IN OUR EASEMENT, BUT IF THEY EXTEND BECAUSE OURS IS INSIDE THE PROPERTY LINE, SO THERE MAY BE ANOTHER FIVE, 10 FEET OF PROPERTY LINE FOR THEM. SO THEY'LL PUT THAT FENCE OUT THERE. SO WHEN YOU, YOU HAVE TO, I MEAN, THAT FLIES IN THE FACE OF THE NEASMAN RIGHT. AN EASEMENT SAYS THAT A GOVERNMENT ENTITY HAS CONTROL, EVEN THOUGH IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY, FOR INSTANCE, UH, EVEN OUR BAR DITCHES TECHNICALLY ARE PRIVATE PROPERTY. WE JUST HAVE PRESCRIPTIVE EASEMENT IN THOSE, IN THOSE AREAS, WE HAVE EASEMENT TO THE, TO THE SO, SO, SO A PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER THEN INTRUDING INTO THE EASEMENT AND PUTTING UP A FENCE IS, IS, UH, UH, I MEAN, THAT'S COUNTER TO THE, IT'S JUST COUNTERING TOO. THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING WE NEED TO SIT DOWN. AND THERE'S SO MUCH INFORMATION THAT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO SHARE AT THAT LAST MEETING. I THINK THAT, THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD ALL SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS. YOU'RE, YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. AND WE, AND, UH, WE, AS THE JUDGE POINTED OUT, WE'VE BEEN HAVING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT, UH, FIRE CODE AND EVEN ADOPTING, UH, MAYBE EVEN AMENDING, UH, HOW WE APPLY A FIRE REGULATIONS IN THE COUNTY. UH, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S A TWO-WAY STREET. WE ALSO THINK THAT THAT, UH, AT LEAST FROM A NOVICE POINT OF VIEW, I CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE YOU HAVE, BUT, UM, PRIVATE WATER COMPANIES ALSO HAVE TO BE, UH, COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT YOU, AT SOME POINT, MY REACH, YOUR CAPACITY AND, AND THAT, THAT KIND OF, UH, INFORMATION NEEDS TO BE CONVEYED TO DEVELOPERS AS WELL. THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO SEND WATER OUT THERE THAT YOU MIGHT LIKE, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE THE EASEMENT INSIDE THEIR PROPERTY LINE, WE CAN'T, WE CANNOT PREVENT THEM FROM PUTTING UP A FENCE ON YOUR PROPERTY LOAN AND COMMISSIONER CASE. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THE STATEMENT THAT YOU MADE ABOUT US TELLING A DEVELOPER, WE MAY NOT HAVE THE SUPPLY TO GIVE THEM THE STATE OF TEXAS REQUIRES US TO SERVE THEM. AND THEY REQUIRE US TO HAVE A RESERVE CAPACITY TO SUPPLY ANY NEW GROWTH AND EVERY YEAR IT'S EVALUATED. SO THERE THERE'S SO MANY FACTORS THAT TIE INTO THIS, THE DEVELOPER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MEETING THE FIRE CODES. SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING HERE IS THIS IS WHAT WE CAN DO. NOW, IF YOU HAVE TO REQUIRE THEM TO DO SOME OF THE OTHER ALTERNATE SUPPRESSION OR WHATEVER SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ON THEM, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE'RE SAYING WE CAN DO AS A WATER SYSTEM. I UNDERSTAND THAT. I APPRECIATE Y'ALL GIVING US THIS, THIS SOME GOOD INFORMATION, BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE, ALL OF US WATER DEPARTMENT UP IN THE SURFACES, COMMISSIONERS COURT, WHATEVER WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE DEVELOPERS UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT Y'ALL HAVE A CERTAIN RESPONSIBILITY IN THE ARMY MEETING THAT BECAUSE THE STATE REQUIRES YOU TO DO THAT. BUT AFTER THAT, THE FIRE IS BACK ON THAT DEVELOPER TO MATCH, TO DO WHAT RANDY REQUIRES THEM TO DO THROUGH THE PHOTOS. CORRECT. AND, UH, AT THAT POINT, I DON'T SEE WHY Y'ALL SHOULD EVEN BE CONCERNED ABOUT IT. YOU'RE DOING YOUR PART. OKAY. WELL NOW IT'S UP TO THAT DEVELOPER. YEAH. TO DO WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. WE WERE, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT RESULTS IN A SITUATION [00:30:01] THE SAME AS WE HAVE NOW IN THIS EXISTING DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHERE THE DEVELOPER THEN IS TOLD, WELL, YOU CAN'T DO THIS, YOU HAVE TO DO THIS. AND IT COSTS YOU AN EXTRA $75,000. AND THEN THEY BALK A LITTLE AT THAT. WE WE'VE LOST TWO DEVELOPERS SIZABLE BY THE WAY, ALREADY TO THAT. UH, AND THEY, THEY MAY PAY TO PUT IT IN, BUT ALL THEIR RESIDENTS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THAT. UH, UM, IT'S NOT A FREE BASE. AND, AND, AND, AND IT'S NOT GOING ON THE COST TO OUR REGULAR CUSTOMERS. THAT'S NOT FAIR IF THEY ALREADY PAID THEIR RENT. RIGHT. SO ANYWAY, THIS, THIS IS JUST FOR INFORMATION AND, AND, UH, UM, WE WOULD WELCOME A SIT DOWN DISCUSSION WITH YOUR NOT A MASS MEETING, SIT DOWN DISCUSSION WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY GET SOME FACTS OUT AND THEN GO BACK AND SAY, OKAY, HERE'S THE WAY WE'RE GOING TO DO IT. AND MY WATER SYSTEM IS NOT, IS DIFFERENT FROM OTHER RURAL WATER SYSTEMS. OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THEIR SIGHT LINE SIZES MAY BE DIFFERENT. THE WATER PIPE MAY NOT BE RATED FOR FIRE SUPPRESSION. THERE'S A LOT OF WATER SYSTEMS OUT THERE THAT DON'T PUT THAT TYPE OF PIPE IN. SO THERE'S A LOT OF FACTORS WITH THIS. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME LISTENING TO US TODAY. AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN ALL SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT IT FURTHER, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY IT'S FOR THE BENEFIT OF KAUFMAN COUNTY. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, JUDGE. AS A MATTER OF ROUTINE WAS PUT ON AS A DISCUSSING CONSIDER, UM, YOU, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD QUICK COMMENT? I WAS UNDER THE SAME IMPRESSION OF SEVERAL COMMISSIONERS THAT PRETENDING TO THE RIGHT OF WAY IT HAVE RESTRICTIONS AS FAR FOR FERMENTING ACCIDENTS. HOWEVER, I HAVE SEEN AND BEEN PART OF CIRCUMSTANCES TO WHERE THERE WAS AN OBSTACLE IN THE WAY, SUCH AS A FENCE OR A BRICK WALL. AND GIVEN THAT SITUATION, ALL WE DID WAS REQUIRE THEM TO PROVIDE THE THREE FOOT CLEARANCE ALL THE WAY AROUND THE HYBRID. JUST A LITTLE BOX CUT OUT TO STILL PROVIDE FIRE DEPARTMENT ACCESS. WE CAN STILL DO THAT, THAT TYPE OF SITUATION. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU CAN'T REQUIRE THEM TO THE TEE OFF AND BRING THE FIRE HYDRANT DOWN CLOSER TO THE STREET. YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S BEYOND ME. WHY THE DEVELOPER DOESN'T HAVE TO MOVE IT TO THE STREET AND THEY TYPICALLY RUN THEM OUT. WHATEVER'S NECESSARY TO GET OUTSIDE OF THAT FENCE, BUT STILL NOT BE ABLE TO APPROACH A BALL NOW, ANOTHER RIGHT AWAY, YOU KNOW, SOME OTHER SOLDIERS. AND I DIDN'T WANT TO BREACH THE COURT THAT YESTERDAY WE MET, THE EDITS ARE DONE. I JUST HAD TWEAK A FEW, UM, AND FIX THE CHECKLIST AND THE FLOW CHART, BUT THE EDITS ARE DONE. SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO SCHEDULE A WORKSHOP. SO WE ARE ON TRACK FOR THAT. WE MET YESTERDAY TO FINISH THAT UP. OKAY. SO THIS ITEM, I'M SORRY. SO THIS ITEM WAS A STANDARD LANGUAGE DISCUSSING CONSIDER, BUT AS IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE'S REALLY, IT'S REALLY JUST A PRESENTATION. AND UNLESS I HEAR SOME MOTION FROM SOMEBODY, NO, DAN WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM FIVE. OKAY. I DON'T FIVE [5. Yasma Holland; Discuss/Consider permission to post and hire temporary part-time person at 20 hours a week to fill a regular part-time staffs position who is off work indefinitely.] ARE GREAT LIBRARIAN. YASMA HOLLAND DISCUSS, CONSIDERED PERMISSION TO POST AND HIRE TEMPORARY PART-TIME PERSON AT 20 HOURS A WEEK TO FILL A REGULAR PART-TIME STAFF POSITION WHO IS OFF WORK INDEFINITELY. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING, JUDGE. GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. UM, I THINK WE WERE JUST MAKING SURE WE'RE COVERING THEIR BASES. UM, WE HAVE A PART-TIME POSITION THAT'S BEEN OUT SINCE, UH, JANUARY 15TH, UM, WITH SOME MEDICAL ISSUES AND HASN'T RETURNED YET. AND I NEEDED PERMISSION JUST TO POST HER POSITION TO FILL IT TEMPORARILY. UM, THIS POSITION WORKS SATURDAYS. THIS POSITION WORKS THE EVENING HOURS FOR THE LIBRARY UNTIL THAT PERSON EITHER DECIDES TO THAT SHE'S ABLE TO COME BACK TO WORK OR RESIGNS IN THE POSITION, UM, THAT DOESN'T REALLY FALL UNDER FAMILY MEDICAL LEAVE. THEY DON'T GET ANY PAV, ANY BENEFITS EXCEPT FOR CONTRIBUTING TO THE RETIREMENT. SO THERE'S NO BUDGET IMPACT AS FAR AS THE MONEY GOES IN OUR BUDGET. UM, UH, AS FAR AS THE LEAVE OF ABSENCE, HUMAN RESOURCES DID MISS, HE SEND ME THE INFORMATION TO GET TO THAT EMPLOYEE TO, TO SEE IF THEY WOULD WANT TO DO A LEAVE OF ABSENCE. IT IS GETTING CLOSE TO THAT HUNDRED AND EIGHT. I THINK THAT'S 180 DAYS. SO THAT WOULD PUT IT LIKE IN JUNE OR SO TO SEE IF THEY WOULD BE WANTING TO DO THE LEAVE OF ABSENCE OR NOT. SO I THINK IT WAS ONE OF THOSE CASES WHERE YOU GO TO THE DOCTOR AND IT TURNS INTO MORE THAN WHAT IT'S. YEAH. YEAH. SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. SO, UM, I'M JUST ASKING PERMISSION TO POST THAT POSITION AND AS PUT IT AS TEMPORARY UNTIL THAT PERSON DECIDES WHAT THEY WANT TO DO ALL GOOD ON THE MONEY SIDE. UH, ANY OTHER, ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU ASTHMA? NO, THERE'S NOT [00:35:01] AS THEIR EMOTION REGARDING, UH, POSTING THAT HIRE TEMPORARY PART-TIME POSITION. WE HAD A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER HUNT. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND, SECOND ONE COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. THOSE OPPOSED. NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ITEM SIX. [6. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider approving allocations of the Family Protection Fee to Lone Star CASA, Inc., Kaufman County Children's Emergency Shelter, The Genesis Center, and the Kaufman County Children's Advocacy Center in equal shares.] UM, THIS PERTAINS TO THE FAMILY PROTECTION FEE. WE SEE THIS EVERY YEAR, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT IS AVAILABLE IN THAT COMING FROM THAT FUND, OR THAT FEE IS ABOUT EIGHT IT'S, A LITTLE UNDER $8,500, 8,400 AND SOMETHING. UM, AND WHAT WE HAVE TRADITIONALLY DONE IS JUST EQUALLY ALLOCATED THAT MONEY INTO, UH, PARTS WITH THE, AS BEING LONE STAR CASA, THE CHILDREN'S SHELTER, THE GENESIS CENTER IN THE, IN THE ADVOCACY CENTER CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY CENTER, UM, IS THAT SATISFACTORY TO EVERYBODY? SO THEY LIVE ABOUT A LITTLE OVER $2,000 A PIECE. OKAY, THEN, UH, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT ALLOCATION IS PRESENTED? OH, WE HAVE A MOTION COMMISSIONER AND BARBERS ARE SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER CAGE DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED. NO MOTION CARRIES. NEXT ITEM DISCUSSED. [7. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider/Approve request by City of Terrell for easement deed to Lots 8 and 9, Block 18, Stallings 3rd and 4th addition in the City of Terrell.] CONSIDER APPROVED REQUEST FOR THE CITY OF TERRELL FOR EASEMENT DEED, UH, TO LOTS EIGHT AND NINE BLOCK, 18 STALLINGS, THIRD AND FOURTH EDITION IN THE CITY OF TERROR. THIS IS, UH, JEFF BROWN, UH, WITH LINEBARGER WAS IN MY OFFICE. THIS IS A MRS. PROPERTY. THAT'S, UH, BEEN SEIZED FOR LACK OF PAYMENT OF TAXES. THESE ARE LOTS THAT THE CITY IS ASKING TO ACQUIRE OR FOR US TO ACQUIRE AN EASEMENT DEED SO THAT THEY CAN USE THOSE LOTS FOR DRAINAGE PATHWAYS. QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. UM, IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT REQUEST FOR THE CITY OF TERROR FOR THE EASEMENT DEED FOR LOTS EIGHT AND NINE IS DESCRIBED THE ADDRESS OF THAT IS THREE OH FIVE HENDERSON. OH, I'M SORRY. DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD TO THAT? THAT'S WHAT I HAD. OH, OKAY. GOOD JOB. ALL RIGHT. THEN LET'S MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT. OKAY. WE HAVE MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS FOR APPROVAL. IS THERE A SECOND, THE SECOND ONE COMMISSIONER BARBARA DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. THOSE OPPOSED. NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES. AND [8. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider/Approve request by City of Kaufman for easement deed to North Vx of Lot 55, Harmony Estates in the City of Kaufman.] THEN MS. BONNER, I ASKED HER, I DID ASK HER TO CLARIFY THIS BECAUSE THIS WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN, UH, THAN THE PREVIOUS ONE. SO, SO THIS IS A LOT OVER ON MELODY CIRCLE. IT'S ABOUT 10, 15 FEET WIDE BETWEEN TWO HOUSES AND THE CITY WANTS IT FOR DRAINAGE. UM, COMMISSIONER HUNT WAS TELLING ME BEFORE THE MEETING THAT THEY ARE NOW MOWING THAT OR HAVE MOWED IT SEVERAL TIMES AND THERE'S A NEW PROPERTY OWNER ON ONE SIDE OF IT. SO THERE MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SELL THAT TO THE NEW PROPERTY OWNER AND LET THEM MAINTAIN IT. BUT OF COURSE, IF YOU DID IT OVER TO THE CITY, THEN THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT. SO ALL I KNOW IS WE GOT THE HIGH GRASS COMPLAINT, GOT WRITTEN UP AND WE HAD TO GO TAKE CARE OF IT BECAUSE THE COUNTY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THESE TAX DELINQUENT TAXES. SO, UH, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S PART OF AN ALLEYWAY. I MEAN, IF IT'S JUST SOMEONE'S FRONT YARD, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT CAN USE IT JUST FOR DRAINAGE, UNLESS IT'S CONNECTED TO AN ALLEYWAY THAT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WOOD FENCE THAT YOU CANNOT SEE. SO I, I JUST LIKE TO SEE, I MEAN, I, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUNT THAT TO THE CITY FROM US. WELL, YOU KNOW, CAUSE I MEAN, I ACTUALLY TALKED TO JEFF AND WADE ABOUT TRYING TO TALK TO THE PROPERTY OWNER AND JUST SAY, CAN WE MAKE A DEAL ON THIS FOR YOUR, TO EXTEND YOUR FRONT YARD? BUT SO YOU THINK WE SHOULD TABLE IT. I SAYS, GO AHEAD AND TYPE IT. CAUSE I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE DRAINAGE IS HOOKED TO. I MEAN, IF IT'S JUST A FRONT YARD, THERE IS NO, THERE, THERE IS NO DRAINAGE ISSUE. SO JUST, JUST MORE OF AN EXPLANATION THAN JUST DAVE NUMBERS AND A LOT OF NUMBERS. I MEAN THE LANDS IN THE FRONT YARD OF A HOUSE. YEAH. IT'S ACTUALLY IT'S BETWEEN TWO HOUSES. YOU TAKE A BAT WING BACK UP AND MAKE ONE MO AND THEN THAT'S HOW MUCH THE GUY THAT OWNS THE HOUSE THAT MOMENT. ANYWAY. WELL, THE REASON WE GOT, WE GOT KIND OF SUCKED IN BECAUSE IT WAS VACANT FOR A LONG TIME AND THE GRASS GOT TALL. SO THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE PAST HAVE ALWAYS MAINTAINED IT LAST SUMMER WAS A DIFFERENT DEAL. NOW THERE ARE NEW OWNERS OR RENTERS OR WHATEVER THERE, THAT LET'S HOPE SO. OKAY. IT HADN'T GOT BACK TO SUMMERTIME YET. SO THIS HOPE SO THERE WILL BE. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. SO YEAH. SO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND JUST GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE IT SO WE CAN SEE HOW THIS DRYNESS LOOKS TO WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE. DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ASK MONIQUE I'M JUST INTERNET RECORDING, SUBDIVISION SHOWING IF HE BUYS THAT PROPERTY AND [00:40:01] HAS IT REACHED SURVEYED OUT TO GO TO HIS PROPERTY? IT WOULD HAVE TO BE REPLANTED UNLESS HE CAN IT AS AN INDIVIDUAL STRIP BY ITSELF, JUST SO YOU KNOW. YEAH. YEAH. WELL I'M, YOU KNOW, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, BUT SO YOUR MOTION IS TO TABLE IT OR WHERE YOU, WHERE YOU CARRY THE BALL ON THIS FOR US OR I'LL CONTACT THEM AND TRY AND GET THE PAPERWORK AND A PICTURE OF WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. OKAY. SO, OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER HUNT TO TABLE ITEM EIGHT. IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER CAGE DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. NO MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU, DEB. UM, NEXT UP, RAYLAN [9. Raylan Smith; Discuss/Consider permission to solicit RFP 21-11: Kaufman County Road Bond Project -R&B County Road Construction] DISCUSS, CONSIDER PERMISSION TO SOLICIT RFP 2111 COUNTY ROAD BOND PROJECT RODEN BRIDGE COUNTY CONSTRUCTION. GOOD MORNING. UM, SO THIS WILL BE THE ACTUAL BID PACKAGE FOR THE COUNTY ROAD BOND PROJECTS THAT YOU MET WITH TNP AND JOHN POLLSTER REL THE SCHEDULE. WE WILL FINALIZE THE SPECS AND THE BID DOCUMENTS AND RELEASE BY WEDNESDAY UPON YOUR APPROVAL BIDS WILL BE DUE BACK APRIL 16TH AND THEN WE'LL MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO COMMISSIONERS ON APRIL 20TH SO THAT WE'LL HAVE CONTRACTS BE READY TO GO BEFORE THE END OF APRIL QUESTIONS. I'D JUST LIKE TO JUST REEMPHASIZE AS I DID IN OUR MEETINGS THAT, UH, AS YOU HAVE INTERACTION WITH POTENTIAL BIDDERS, THAT THEY'D BE SENSITIZED TO THE FACT THAT BY APRIL WE'RE IN ROAD BUILDING SEASON ARE GETTING PRETTY CLOSE AND WE, WE NEED A QUICK PERFORMANCE. YEAH, THAT'LL BE VERY AGGRESSIVE PROJECT TIMETABLE. OKAY. UH, IS THERE A MOTION REGARDING PERMISSION TO SOLICIT RP 2111? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WHERE THAT MOTION FOR APPROVAL FROM COMMISSIONER BARBERS OR SECOND I'LL SECOND SEGMENT COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. THOSE OPPOSED. NO MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. RAYLAND ALRIGHT. OUR [10. Brenda Samples; Discuss/Consider approval of May 1, 2021 Election locations and times as well as Early Voting time periods and voting locations.] TECHS ASSESS OR COLLECT OR DISCUSS CONSIDER APPROVAL OF MAY 1ST, 2021 ELECTION LOCATIONS AND TIMES IS EARLY VOTING AND VOTING LOCATIONS. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING GENTLEMEN, COMMISSIONERS, JUDGE. YES. IT'S GETTING THAT TIME OF YEAR AGAIN. AND, UH, UH, ROCK BEFORE YOU AND ASKING FOR PERMISSION TO USE THE LOCATIONS THAT, UH, YOU'VE BEEN PROVIDED WITH. UM, I, I HAD TALKED TO BRENDA, I THINK I MIGHT'VE, I TALKED TO BRENDA NOW I'VE TALKED TO YASMA TOO, ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF GETTING ELECTION DAYS OUT OF THIS BUILDING OUT OF THIS ROOM INTO THE LIBRARY. YASMA DIDN'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. OF COURSE WE DO EARLY VOTING THERE. AND I THINK THE, UM, I THINK BRENDA AND HER TEAM THINKS THAT THAT WOULD WORK. OKAY. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE. YEAH. WE PROBABLY STILL NEED TO KEEP THIS AS A CENTRAL VOTING. I MEAN A COUNTING STATION. WELL, I WAS HOPING THAT WE WOULD NOT, I WAS HOPING BECAUSE IT'S SO DISRUPTIVE FOR US IN OUR BUSINESS. OKAY. SO, OKAY. SO Y'ALL HEAR THAT, THAT YOU SAID YES. OKAY. I'LL WORK ON THAT. OKAY. YOU DO REMEMBER WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, RIGHT. OKAY. OKAY. UM, OKAY. SO Y'ALL SEE THE LIST. YOU SEE THE VOTING LOCATIONS AND QUESTIONS FOR BRENDA, IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE ELECTION LOCATIONS AND TIMES IS FOR EARLY VOTING AND VOTING LOCATIONS IS PRESENTED. I DON'T MAKE THAT MUCH MOTION. COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS. IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER CAGE DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? NO MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. NEXT UP, UH, [11. Brenda Samples; Discuss/Consider hazard pay for poll/election workers for the May 1, 2021 election.] AGAIN, BRENDA DISCUSSED, CONSIDER HAZARD PAY FOR POLL ELECTION WORKERS FOR THE MAY 1ST, 2021 ELECTIONS. YES, SIR. THEY, UM, CENTER FOR TECH AND CIVIC LIFE THAT WE GOT THE $67,563 GRANT FROM LAST YEAR THAT HAD EXPIRED, BUT WE ASKED FOR AN EXTENSION AND THAT IS GOOD THROUGH JUNE THE 30TH OF THIS YEAR. AND, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT THAT THERE BE A $3 PER HOUR PAY FOR THAT. WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE, UH, TAXES INSURANCE AND ALL THAT IS, BUT, UH, WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT FOR ALL THE ELECTION WORKERS AND WHAT WE USED LAST YEAR, UH, ON THE ELECTION WAS $18,000. AND PLUS THE INCIDENTALS THAT GO WITH IT, UM, THIS ONE $27,603 AND 35 CENTS IS WHAT THIS WOULD COST. NO, THAT'S WHAT IT COSTS. SHE HAS 39,009, 59 65 [00:45:01] LEFT IN THAT GRANT THAT CAN BE USED. OKAY. SO THAT WOULD THE $3 AN HOUR PER WORKER PLUS THE BENEFITS AND THAT 39,000 WOULD COVER THAT. OH YES, SIR. OKAY. AND ALSO THERE'S LIKE, UH, THERE'S LIKE BUZZERS THAT YOU CAN PUT OUT. AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL IN OUR, ESPECIALLY OUR EARLY VOTING LOCATIONS FOR OUR PEOPLE THAT COME UP IN THE VEHICLES THAT NEED ASSISTANCE. THEY COULD BRING A BUZZER AND IT WOULD GO INSIDE. AND SO WE'D NOTICED TO MAKE SURE. YES, SIR. AND BRENDA DID UNDER, DID I UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR GRANT EXTENSION WAS APPROVED? YES, SIR. IT WAS YOU'VE COVERED THIS ELECTION. YES, SIR. THROUGH JUNE THE 30TH. YES, SIR. WAS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT RUNOFFS WOULD RUN PAST THAT WOULDN'T THEY, IF THERE WERE RUNOFFS IN THOSE ELECTIONS, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY, BUT I THINK IT WILL BE OKAY. I THINK WE HAVE A COUPLE OF RACES OVER THERE AND HAVE MORE THAN ONE PERSON. I MEAN, MA MIGHT GET IT. WELL, WE CAN ONLY DO IT JUST TILL THE TIME BEING, I MEAN, TILL THE TIME, IF I SAY CLEAR TO THEM THAT IF THERE'S A RUNOFF, WE MIGHT RUN OUT OF TIME ON THE MONEY AND THEY WOULD GET THEIR STANDARD PAY. YES. OKAY. MAYBE HAZARD PAY WOULDN'T BE NECESSARY BY JUNE AND THESE ARE, AND THIS IS GOING TO BE MAINLY ON SCOOP. I MAY NOT GO MORE IN OUR CASE. I DON'T THINK, BUT THE CITY OF LINCOLN WANTS THE CITY AND THE CITY HAVE TO PAY US BACK. OH MY GOSH. THERE'S UH, I THINK THAT MIGHT BE ON MY NEXT LITTLE REPORT. HOW MANY CITIES THERE ARE AND HOW MANY, UM, THERE'S EIGHT CITIES, SEVEN ICE DAYS. ROSE HILL AND HIGH POINT AND THEN A COFFIN COUNTY, UH, FRESHWATER SUPPLY. THERE'S THAT ONE. SO WE HAVE SEVERAL. YEAH. YEAH. WELL, UM, WHAT IF WE RUN OUT OF MONEY OR WHATEVER? YEAH. BUT I THINK THE HAZARD OF SITUATION, I WOULD PRAY THE HAZARDOUS SITUATION WOULD BE OVER JUNE. UM, OKAY. SO QUESTION. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DOES ANYONE ELSE GETTING HAZARD PAY FOR DOING THEIR JOB? NOT ME. THAT'S WHAT I, I DON'T GET THIS I'M I JUST DON'T GET IT. WELL, THIS IS A GRANT THAT THAT'S BEEN OFFERED TO US AND, UM, IS THAT ALL IT CAN FUND IS HAZARD PAY? NO, SIR. ANYTHING OF DOING TWO ELECTIONS AND THE SAFETY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF, OF, UH, POLL WORKERS THAT WILL NOT WORK RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF THE, UM, THE $3 EXTRA AN HOUR. MIKE CAN COME TO WORK. NOW IT WON'T SOME OF THEM, WELL OF COURSE THESE ARE, THESE ARE HARD POSITIONS TO FILL AND WHAT'S HAPPENED IS I THINK, UH, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS. AND A LOT OF THEM ARE YOUNG AND THEY ARE AFRAID BECAUSE OF THE DISEASE. THEY'RE AFRAID TO GET OUT. WILLIAM. NO, NO FOR $3 IS GOING TO MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE. BUT MAYBE IT WILL. I DON'T THINK SO. NO. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU, RIGHT? IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, THE $3 IS IT'S JUST A COURTESY TYPE DEAL. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PULL IN ANYBODY THAT DOESN'T WANT TO TAKE IT RISK, BUT BY MAY, MOST OF THE SENIORS HAVE BEEN VACCINATED THAT CHOOSE TO BE VACCINATED. IF I DON'T CHOOSE TO AND DON'T WANT TO DO IT THEN FINE. BUT IF, YOU KNOW, THEY MIGHT FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE. OF COURSE THIS WAS A LITTLE BIT OF AN ISSUE EVEN BEFORE COVID STARTED BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE FOLKS ARE SORT OF AGING OUT OR THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO DO IT ANYMORE, OR THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO DO IT. YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK PEOPLE REALIZE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN EVERYBODY IN THE FAMILY WORKING AND EVERYBODY USED TO BE. AND THESE PEOPLE THAT WORK IN POLES, A LOT OF THEM ARE. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THEY LIKE ME THEIR OWN, EXCEPT THEY'RE A LITTLE OLDER THAN ME. AND UH, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THEM, BUT YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT HOW LONG THEY'VE BEEN DOING IT. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE A GENERATION IS WILLING TO STEP UP AND COME AND DO IT. YEAH. $3 AN HOUR MAY BE CHEAP AND IT ALL COMES DOWN TO, DOES IT MATTER? IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT WE COULD SOMEHOW PRIORITIZE, UH, POTENTIAL POLL EMPLOYEES TO ENSURE THEY'RE VACCINATED OR OFFER THEM SOME, UH, SOME ACCELERATED VACCINE BY THIS TIME PERIOD? AND I'M TELLING YOU FROM WHAT I CAN TELL FROM TALKING TO PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING THIS, WE ARE ON THE CUSP OF COMPLETELY ABANDONING THIS STRATIFIED VACCINATION PROCESS. BECAUSE A LOT OF US INCLUDED US ARE HAVING TROUBLE GETTING THERE, HAVING WE'RE HAVING A REALLY SCRAMBLE TO [00:50:01] GET PEOPLE TO COME IN AND TAKE THE VACCINE UNDER THE ONE ABC THING. RIGHT? SO THEY JUST TOLD US THIS MORNING, THE CITY MANAGER, THEIR ENTIRE, ALL THAT, THEY HAD 30 PEOPLE THAT WERE SCHEDULED TO BE THERE THAT DIDN'T SHOW UP TO GET THEIR SHOTS. AND THEY'RE ON THE PHONES. THEN JUST CALLING THE NEXT PEOPLE DOWN THE LIST, TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO COME IN AND YEAH, THEY PROBABLY GET IT SOMEWHERE ELSE. AND THEN THE OTHERS, UNLESS THERE'S A PROCESS FOR THEM, NOT THAT THEY'RE WILL DO IT, BUT IF THERE'S A PROCESS TO SAY THAT I'VE ALREADY GOT MY BACK, WE DO HAVE A PROCESS, BUT NOT EVERYBODY. THEY DON'T JUST FOLLOW IT OUT OF SIGHT. OUT OF MIND. NEVER LEAVES. IT MAKES NO SENSE. IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT SEVEN OR EIGHT. AND WHAT ARE THEY RUNNING? THEY, UH, WE'RE GETTING PRICES ON THOSE. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE EXACT PRICE ON THOSE. OKAY. THAT WAS JUST ONE THING WE THOUGHT OF. IT MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL TO THE VOTER AS WELL AS ELECTION WORKERS. HOW WOULD THAT WORK? I MEAN, I'LL TELL YOU WE'D HAVE A BUZZER, A TEMPORARY BUZZER, AND THEN THEY COME UP AND PUSH IT. AND THEN SOMEBODY THAT WORKS IN THE ELECTION DEPARTMENT OR WHOEVER'S WORKING THAT POLL WOULD GO OUT AND HELP THAT PERSON. IT'S NOT ABLE TO COME IN. OKAY. IT'S LIKE YOUR BATTERY BATTERY OPERATE AND DON'T BE RUNNING OUT, PUT IT OUT THERE AND RING THE ONE INSIDE. YEAH, YEAH. THAT WAY. THAT WAY, IF THEY'RE UNABLE TO, LIKE, IF THEY'RE UNABLE, THEY'RE UNABLE TO WALK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEY DON'T HAVE TO GET OUT OF THEIR CAR AND COME IN AND ASK FOR SOMEBODY LIKE A BUZZER ON A POST OR SOMETHING IT'S ON A POLL POSTER OR POLLS, SOME TYPE OF POLL. RIGHT. OKAY. SO BACK TO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, ITEM 11 WOULD BE TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING HAZARD PAY FOR THE POLL ELECTION WORKERS FOR THE MAY 1ST, 2021 ELECTION. I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD IF THERE WAS A MOTION THAT, THAT MOTION SPECIFY DISAPPROVAL WOULD BE CONTINGENT ON STAYING WITHIN THE AMOUNT OF THE GRANT. YES. THAT MAKES SENSE. MAKES SENSE. ANYBODY WANT TO JUDGE I'LL MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS REQUEST, UH, FOR THE SUPPLEMENTAL PAY, UH, AND THAT ANY, AND ALL EXPENDITURES BE LIMITED TO THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF THE GRANT. OKAY. WE HAD THAT MOTION WITH COMMISSIONER CASES OR SECOND I'LL SECOND, SECOND ONE COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES. AND BACK TO YOU, MS. SAMPLES [12. Brenda Samples; Discuss/Consider accepting contracts for election services.] DISCUSS, CONSIDER ACCEPTING CONTRACTS FOR ELECTION SERVICES. YES, SIR. UM, I'VE GOT, AGAIN, I'VE GOT EIGHT CITIES, SEVEN ASS DAYS, TWO SUDS IN ONE FRESH WATER DISTRICT THAT ARE WANTING TO US TO DO ELECTIONS FOR THEM. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING PERMISSION TODAY IS TO CARRY ON THOSE ELECTIONS FOR, TO EXECUTE THOSE CONTRACTS. RIGHT. SOUNDS GREAT QUESTIONS. THEY PAID FOR THIS. THEY SIGNED FOR THIS. WE'LL HAVE TO PAY UP FRONT, BUT THEN WE ARE REIMBURSED. WE OCCASIONALLY RAISED THE COST OF THESE PEOPLE AS OUR COSTS GO UP. WELL, WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING THE, UH, THE NEWER TOTALS, YOU KNOW, THE NEWER AMOUNT SO THAT WE WILL KNOW WHAT THEY ARE AND STILL SITES STAY WITHIN A REASONABLE AMOUNT, YOU KNOW, SO THAT, UH, THAT WE CAN HELP THEM. I JUST KNOW THE COSTS GO UP FOR EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME. AND, AND UH, A LOT OF TIMES, UM, PROCESSES LIKE THIS, WE JUST SORTA KEEP DOING WHAT WE'VE ALWAYS DONE. AND, YOU KNOW, PERIODICALLY, IT'S PROBABLY PRUDENT TO RE REVIEW AND SEE WHERE OUR COSTS ARE. UM, YOU KNOW, RELATIVE TO THINGS LIKE HOW MUCH WAGE WE PAY, THINGS LIKE THAT. YES, SIR. OH, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IF YOU WAIT LONG ENOUGH, THEN IT'S GOING TO BE UNREASONABLE TO BRING IT TO THEM, TO PAY THEIR COST. SO JUST DO IT A LITTLE BIT ALONG. THEY'RE NOT REGULATED BY THE STATE THAT WE CAN ONLY CHARGE SO MUCH IN, NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. WELL, I THOUGHT MAYBE THERE WASN'T, MAYBE THAT'S FINE BECAUSE IF IT'S JUST THE CITY ALEXA, AND WE HAVE NO ALEXA AND THEY SHOULD BEAR A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE COST ONE WE'RE DOING WITH THAT. YES, SIR. YEP. AND BASICALLY ON THE PAYMENT OF SERVICES IN THIS CONTRACT AGREEMENT, THEY PAY A PRORATED COST OF THE ACTUAL ELECTION PLUS 10%. SO THAT'S HOW WE DO, UM, CAPTURE MORE OF THE ACTUAL COST. IT'S NOT LIKE A STANDARD RATE ON EVERYTHING. IT IS A PRORATED ON PART OF IT BASED ON THE ACTUAL COST PLUS 10%. SO LIKE IF WE, IF WE GET INTO A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO START PAYING ESCALATING FEES FOR, TO GET POLLED WORKERS, THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD, THAT WOULD JUST BE PUT ON THEM TO PAY. YES, SIR. RIGHT, RIGHT. OKAY. THEN, UH, IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS [00:55:01] FROM THE SAMPLES, IS THERE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF THOSE CONTRACTS FOR ELECTION SERVICES? MIKE MOTION WHERE THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER HUNT. IS THERE A SECOND? NOT A SECOND. SECOND ONE COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU, MS. KAREN, [13. Auditor; Discuss/Consider line item transfers.] YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT LINE ITEM TRANSFERS? SURE. BUDGET AMENDMENTS. THOSE WERE EMAILED EARLIER IN THE WEEK. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS? SAYS NOPE. NOPE, NOPE. AND WE ALL SAY, YEP. EVERYBODY ELSE HAS A QUESTION AGAIN. I MOVED THE EXCESS COVID MONEY ON ADAM, SO YOU'D KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH WE HAD IN THERE BEING USED. RIGHT. THANKS FOR THAT. UM, OKAY. IS THERE IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE LINE I'M FOR, IS THIS PRESENTED? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION, BUT THE MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, IS THERE A SECOND SO I CAN CHECK THEM COMMISSIONER BARBARA DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. NO MOTION CARRIES ITEM [14. Auditor; Discuss/Consider claims for payment.] 14. CONSIDER DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPLYING FOR PAYMENT. MS. KAREN. YES. YOUR CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT TODAY ARE $818,000. 30 $818,335 AND 93 CENTS. PAYROLL BENEFITS AND AN ACH TRANSFER IS 1,000,003 77 65, 88 FOR A TOTAL OF 2 MILLION, $189,101 AND 91 CENTS. UH, YOUR MAIN EXPENDITURES WERE FOR THE, UH, TERRELL TIFF AND THE POWER CENTER, LITTLE OVER 550, 2000 FOR THEM QUESTIONS. IF IT, NO QUESTIONS. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT AS PRESENTED? SO MOVE, WE HAVE THAT MOTION ON COMMISSION CAGES OR A SECOND SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER BARBER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE, THOSE OPPOSED NO MOTION CARRIES, WHICH BRINGS US TO, I NEED, I NEED TO MAKE Y'ALL AWARE OF THE THING. UM, WE'RE, WE'RE FOLLOWING AND ATTENDING SOME INFORMATION ABOUT OUR, UH, ELECTRIC PROVIDERS AND UH, WITH KAVALA. IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT ANY OF YOUR ELECTRIC BILLS, THEY HAVE ADDED A LOSS BECAUSE OF THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY TWO, YOUR BILLS PAY THREE HAS SAID FOR US TO NOT PAY THAT TO REFUSE. AND, UM, NOBODY ELSE DID IT, BUT I INCLUDED LETTERS TO KAVALA TELLING THEM THAT I WAS DISPUTING THAT LOSS AMOUNT AND I WAS NOT GOING TO PAY IT. SO IF Y'ALL HEAR FROM THEM OR NOTICE ANYTHING ABOUT IT, THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON. NO, THEY CAN'T DO THAT. WE HOPE WE'RE PAYING WHAT WE USED. EVERYBODY'S SIGNED THE TREASURY REPORT. NO, I HAVEN'T MADE IT DOWN HERE YET. WELL, HE CAN GET ALL THE INFORMATION AND THEY MAKE US ERCOT HAVING THE WEBINAR TODAY. YOU KNOW, THEY EXPLAIN ALL THAT. SO YOU CAN GO ONLINE AND WATCH IT. YOU MENTIONED PHILLIPS. YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THIS MEETING? I DO. AND WE USED TO [15. Adjourn Regular Meeting] MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. THIS MEETING COMMISSIONER, PHYLLIS MOVES TO ADJOURN. IS THERE A SECOND SACRED COMMISSIONER BARBARA DISCUSSION? THERE'S A FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? NO, WE ARE ADJOURNED. WE ARE. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.