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[Call to Order]
THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE COMP AND COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT IS CALLED TO ORDER.TODAY IS TUESDAY, APRIL 20TH, 2021.
AND WE'RE IN THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING ROOM, LOCATED IN THE COURTHOUSE ANNEX AS, AS WE ALWAYS DO, WE'LL START OFF OUR MEETING WITH THE INVOCATION AND PLEDGE TO THE AMERICAN AND THE TEXAS FLAG.
WILL YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGES? AND, UH, PASTOR KYLE IS GOING TO LEAD US IN THE INVOCATION.
DID WE COME BEFORE YOU THIS MORNING? WE ASK YOUR BLESSING UPON EVERYTHING THAT WE DO.
FATHER, FATHER, WE STAND UP ON YOUR WORD THAT WE CAN DWELL UNDERNEATH THE SHADOW OF THE ALMIGHTY AND KEEP US SAFE AND EVERYTHING THAT THERE IS FATHER BLESS EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THE EMPLOYEES THAT WORK FOR THE COUNTY FATHER AND WITHIN OUR CDS WITHIN OUR COUNTY.
ALSO LORD FATHER, WE JUST WANT MORE OF YOU AND LESS OF US.
AND LORD WOULD GIVE YOU ALL THE PRAISE, THE HONOR AND THE GLORY AND ASK THIS AND THE WONDERFUL, PRECIOUS NAME OF JESUS CHRIST.
UH, WELL, GOOD MORNING TO EVERYBODY.
IT LOOKS LIKE WE'VE GOT LOTS OF COUNTY STAFF HERE TODAY AND A COUPLE OF OTHER VISITORS.
UH, NEXT THING WOULD BE TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC, UM, TO SPEAK ON SOMETHING AS ON THE AGENDA, BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS.
SO I SUPPOSE WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY TO SPEAK WITH US TODAY.
[1. ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.]
ONE ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.I DON'T HAVE ANY CORRESPONDERS.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY, OKAY.
[2. CONSENT AGENDA]
CONSENT AGENDA, WE HAVE A, UH, A REPORTS A THROUGH H ON THE CONSENT AGENDA TODAY.DOES ANYONE CARE TO PULL ONE PARTICULAR ITEM OFF OF THERE ANY PARTICULAR ITEM TO DISCUSS? IF NOT, UH, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED MOTION? THE MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS IS OUR SECOND, UH, SECOND SACRAL COMMISSIONER HUNT, DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.
IT'S NICE TO HAVE ALL THE COURT PRESENT TODAY SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT DELAY.
UH, CAUSE I, I CONSTANTLY FORGET ABOUT IT AND THEN WE TAKE THE VOTE AND THEN THIS OTHER VOTE COMES ROLLING IN LATER.
[3. Raylan Smith, Greg Blazek; Receive Justice Center & Pet Adoption Center Construction Update]
RAYLAN SMITH AND GREG BLAZICK ARE GONNA GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE JUSTICE CENTER AND PET ADOPTION CENTER, CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.EVERYBODY THINKS HE'S A CANADIAN.
GOOD MORNING, JUDGE COMMISSIONERS.
UH, RAILWAY JUST PASSED OUT THE LITTLE STATUS UPDATE THAT WE'LL DO MONTHLY FOR Y'ALL TO GIVE TO YOU.
UM, FOR THOSE OF Y'ALL THAT WERE AT THE GROUNDBREAKING LAST WEEK, WHICH WAS A BIG SUCCESS.
UM, Y'ALL SAW THERE'S A LOT OF DIRT BEING MOVED EVERYWHERE AS HIM POP GOING IN THE GROUND, THE, UH, PET ADOPTION CENTER.
WE PRETTY MUCH GOT ALL THE GREAT WORK DONE ON IT.
CUT THE GRADED, THE BUILDING PAD BUILT UP THE, UH, UTILITY WORK IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW, THE UNDERGROUND UTILITIES AND NEXT WEEK YOU'LL OUR CONCRETE SUB CONTRACTOR WILL BE MOBILIZING TO START LAYING OUT FOR THE BUILDING PAD, THE ACTUAL BUILDING FOUNDATION AND START PEERS PROBABLY THE FOLLOWING WEEK.
SO YOU'LL SEE THAT PROGRESS IS GOING ALONG REALLY WELL ON THE JUSTICE CENTER, SAME THING, A LOT MORE DIRT WORK TO DO.
WE'VE GOT ABOUT TWO MORE WEEKS OF DIRT WORK TO FINISH OR GET IT, YOU KNOW, MOSTLY FINISHED THE, UH, PARKING LOT EXPANSION FOR THE SHERIFF EMPLOYEE PARKING.
WE'RE ACTUALLY STARTED THE LIVE STABILIZATION TODAY AND BE POURING IN, IN ABOUT TWO WEEKS TO BE ABLE TO TURN IT OVER SHORTLY AFTER FOR HIM TO UTILIZE IT, WHICH WILL ALLOW US TO FINISH TAKING OUT MORE OF THE PARKING LOT AREAS.
AND WE'VE GOT ABOUT TWO MORE WEEKS OF PRIMARY DIRT WORK TO DO UTILITY WORK, SAME THING.
AND THEN WE'LL START THE, UH, SUBGRADE PREPARATION FOR THE REAR DRIVE FOR THE ACCESS TO THE DETENTION CENTER.
AND THEN ABOUT THREE TO FOUR WEEKS, I ACTUALLY STARTED GETTING THE, UH, PAT RARER PAPERWORK READY FOR THE JUSTICE CENTER.
SO RIGHT NOW EVERYTHING'S MOVING ALONG DIRT.
COULDN'T POP IN THE GROUND AND MOVING ALONG.
SO, UH, WELL YOU GOT PLENTY OF RAIN THE OTHER DAY, I GUESS, BUT JUST Y'ALL GOT WATER PUMPS SO YOU CAN PUMP THOSE HOLES.
PLEASE SHUT US DOWN FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS BEFORE IT'S ONLY, IT WAS ON THE WEEKEND.
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BUT THEY'RE OUT THERE WORKING.SO, BUT RIGHT NOW EVERYTHING'S LOOKING GOOD.
SO DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR GREG? NO.
WELL, WE APPRECIATE THE REPORTS AND UH, GO FASTER.
WE'LL DO THIS EVERY MONTH, FASTER, EVERYTHING GOING.
I WAS GOING TO TELL YOU YOU'RE GOOD WORKING WITH THEM AND KEEP THEM TRAFFIC FUNNEL IS WORKING REALLY WELL.
IF WE HAVE ANY PROBLEMS, THEY ADDRESS IT REAL WELL PARTNERSHIP THAT WE'VE GOT WITH THEM AND GET THAT DONE.
AND ALSO THE DRUNK PROGRAM KICKED OFF YESTERDAY AND WE WERE ALREADY SETTING IT UP, BUT I'LL TAKE PICTURES ONCE A WEEK WHERE YOU CAN SEE EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING.
YOU TALKED ABOUT DOING A, YOU SEEN THESE THINGS WHERE THEY DO A TIME-LAPSE THING.
YOU KNOW, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING CAMERAS UP AND RAYLAND LOOKED INTO THAT AND IT WAS GOING TO BE REALLY EXPENSIVE.
SO THE SHERIFF AND HIS GUYS ARE GOING TO FLY A CIRCUIT AND GIVE US KIND OF A TIMELINE.
IT'D BE SORT OF FUN TO REVIEW THAT AS I SEE IT COME OUT OF THE GROUND.
SO MY CALENDAR SHOULD DO IN THAT CHAIR.
I WANT TO GO OVER THE BUDGET REALLY QUICK.
UM, I'M DOING THE SAME TYPE OF BUDGET RECONCILIATION.
YOU ARE USED TO SEEING THESE REPORTS.
THESE ARE THE SAME STYLE REPORTS THAT YOU GET FOR YOUR ROAD AND BRIDGE LINE ITEMS. SO IT'S A BREAKDOWN OF ALL THE PURCHASE ORDERS AND INVOICES THAT HAVE BEEN PAID TO DATE YOUR BUDGET SUMMARY.
THAT'S THERE ON THE FRONT, ON THE LEFT SIDE.
WHAT YOU'LL NOTICE THAT'S GOING TO BE YOUR TOTAL BUDGET AMOUNT.
UM, AND THEN WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH THAT BUDGET AMOUNT IS GOING TO BE LESS, THE CONTINGENCIES THAT WE'RE CONSTANTLY MONITORING ON THE RIGHT SIDE IS GOING TO BE THAT TOTAL AMOUNT PAID THE REMAINING BALANCE.
SO THOSE ARE GOING TO BE THE AMOUNT OF POS THAT WE HAVE OUT.
SO I HAVE RELEASED PURCHASE ORDERS ON SOME OF THE CONTRACTORS.
SO WE WENT AHEAD AND DID THE FULL PURCHASE ORDER AMOUNT ON THE CONTRACTOR SO THAT WE CAN START DETECTING INVOICES FROM THAT.
SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TOTAL BUDGET AND THE REMAINING BALANCE IS JUST, UM, THE AMOUNTS THAT ARE ENCUMBERED, BUT YOU'RE PAID TO DATE BALANCES WITH YOUR LINE ITEMS AND THE AMOUNTS PAID THERE AT THE BOTTOM.
SO, AND THEN THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS BEHIND THAT ARE THE ACTUAL INVOICES AND PURCHASE ORDERS BROKEN DOWN BY LINE.
VERY TRANSPARENT THAT THANK YOU.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, JUST LET ME KNOW.
UM, THERE'S LIKE, LIKE WITH YOUR ROAD BONDS, THERE'S A HUGE NOTEBOOK SITTING ON MY DESK.
SO JUST TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH IT THE SAME WAY, THAT WAY YOU ARE USED TO SEEING THE SAME STYLE REPORTS EACH TIME I LIKE THAT.
NO, BUT, UH, WE WOULD LIKE FOR GREG TO LEAVE SO HE CAN GO BACK TO WORK, GO OUT THERE AND CRACK THAT WHIP.
[4. Laura Peace; Discuss and consider award of project for Kaufman County Juvenile Center Feasibility Study.]
UH, LARGER PIECE, UH, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AWARD OF A PROJECT FOR KAUFMAN COUNTY JUVENILE CENTER, FEASIBILITY STUDY MORNING, CHIEF, I'LL BE MUCH SHORTER THIS TIME.UM, I JUST WANTED TO COME BACK AND LET YOU KNOW, I HAVE SPOKEN WITH RAELYNN AND RAYLAND DID RECEIVE A PROPOSAL FROM HOK AND SHE SHOWED IT TO ME.
AND I SPOKE WITH THE ENGINEER AT HOK AND I FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE THAT THEY COULD PROVIDE WHAT WE NEED.
UM, I HAS SOME SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FOR HIM REGARDING THE TYPE OF BUILDING AND SOME OF THE SECURITY ISSUES.
AND HE'S OBVIOUSLY VERY FAMILIAR AND EVEN HAS SOME OTHER IDEAS THAT I THOUGHT WERE REALLY GOOD.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AWARE.
RUTLAND HAS THE ACTUAL NUMBERS, THE COST, AND SHE'S GOING TO BE HANDLING THAT, BUT I WANTED TO COME BACK AND TELL YOU THAT I HAVE SPOKEN WITH HIM.
WE DO HAVE ANOTHER ONE AND IT LOOKS VERY GOOD TO ME.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? SO THAT ITEM IS ON HERE FOR DISCUSSING CONSIDER RAYLAN.
UM, SO, UM, THE ACTUAL RECOMMENDATION WITH THE, UM, THAT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT APPROVED, UH, HOK AS THE CONSULTANT ASSUMED, AND, UM, I WILL GO BACK TO THE FIRST QUOTE AND ALLOW THEM TO SUBMIT A BEST AND FINAL OFFER AND, UM, FROM THE OTHER FIRMS, OTHER FIRM.
AND, UM, SO THE MOTION WOULD NEED TO BE HOK WITH THE MAKING SURE THAT THEY ARE THE ACTUAL LOCATION.
SO THE MOTION WILL BE TO APPROVE HOK CONTINGENT ON THEM BEING THE LOW BID.
UM, WITH HOK OR THE OTHER COMPANY WILL HAVE PLANS THE WHOLE NINE YARDS, RIGHT? FOR THE BUILDING.
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THIS WILL BE THE FEASIBILITY STUDY.THIS IS ONLY THE FEASIBILITY STUDY.
THIS IS THE DATA THAT WE APPROVED LAST TUESDAY.
SO THIS IS THE IT'S ALL OF THE PREP WORK.
IT'S THE CONCEPT PLAN, THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING.
UM, SAT PLAN, DETERMINATION AND STUDY, UM, SOME OF YOUR UTILITY INFORMATION, UM, YOUR WORKSHOP MEETING WITH YOUR BOARD AND DIRECTORS, THERE WAS LESS TIME SPENT IN THE HOK PROPOSAL ON NEED.
THEN THERE WAS THE ORIGINAL ONE.
SO THE FOCUS OF THE HOK IS MUCH MORE ON HOW TO WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE NEED TO GET DONE AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET IT DONE.
NOT DO WE ACTUALLY NEED THIS OR NOT, BUT IT'S ASSESSING OUR SPECIFIC NEEDS.
THEN, UH, WE WERE LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE H O K IS THE CONSULTANT FOR THE FEASIBILITY STUDY, CONTINGENT ON THEM BEING THE LOW BIDDER.
WHEN WE GET A RESPONSE FROM THE PREVIOUS BIDDER, THAT WOULD, IS, WOULD SOMEBODY MAKE THAT MOTION AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION WITH EMOTIONAL COMMISSIONER BARBARA, IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER CAGE DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
[5. Zennell Andy; Discuss and consider receipt, transfer, and disposal of County owned assets.]
NEXT UP ZINFANDEL, ANDY DISCUSSING, CONSIDER RECEIPT TRANSFER AND DISPOSAL OF COUNTY OWNED ASSETS.THIS IS MY FAVORITE THING ON THE AGENDA EVERY MONTH.
UH, WE HAVE A FEW ITEMS FROM ROAD AND BRIDGE FOUR K SO AND THE FIRE MARSHAL THAT ALREADY, TO BE HONEST.
I'M UH, I'M I'M CATCHING UP HERE.
I WAS THINKING THERE WAS ONE THING ON THERE.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? ABOUT THAT ITEM, ABOUT ITEM SEVEN.
IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE A RECEIPT TRANSFER AND DISPOSAL OF COUNTY ASSETS AS PRESENTED? UM, I DID MOST, WE HAD A MOTION COMMISSIONER HUNT.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE OPPOSED.
[6. Latoya Arthur; Discuss & consider the purchase of a 30' 2022 Belly Custom Dump Trailer in the amount of $34,400.00; from KSW Rail Group for Precinct #4.]
LATOYA ARTHUR DISCUSSING CONSIDER THE PURCHASE OF A 30 FOOT, 2022 BELLY DUMP CUSTOM DUMP TRAILER IN THE AMOUNT OF $34,400 FROM KSW RAIL GROUP FOR PRECINCT FOUR.ONE ROAD IN BRIDGEPORT WOULD LIKE TO PURCHASE A 20, 20 TO 30 FOOT CUSTOM BELLY DUMP TRAILER.
THERE MAY BE A REDUCTION DUE TO TEXAS BEEN REMOVED QUESTIONS.
UH, IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION ON ITEM SIX? YEAH, JUDGE I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.
UH, THIS WAS A TRAILER THAT WE, WE HAVE BEEN LEASING TRAILERS, UH, AND WE, UH, THE, THE, THE ENVIRONMENT, THE, THE NARROWNESS OF SOME OF OUR ROADS REQUIRES US TO, UH, UH, REALLY HAVE TO WORK WITH SOME OF THE 40 FOOT COMMERCIALLY AVAILABLE TRAILERS.
SO THIS WAS A SHORTER TRAILER THAT WE'RE HAVING CUSTOM BUILT.
SO, UH, THIS WILL JUST BE A GREAT ASSET TO THE PRECINCT.
WE HAVE MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THAT ITEM BY COMMISSIONER IN CASES, OR SECOND, SECOND, SECOND, COMMISSIONER HUNT, DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? NO MOTION CARRIES.
[7. Raylan Smith; Discuss & consider the purchase of two (2) 2021TAHOE SSV in the amount of $83,898; less a trade-in of Asset #11653 and Asset #11654 in the amount of $33,900; for a total purchase price of $49,998; for Adult Probation.]
NEXT STEP.NEXT STEP DISCUSSING CONSIDER THE PURCHASE OF TWO 2021 TAHOE.
SNSV IN THE AMOUNT OF $83,898 LESS A TRADE IN FOR ASSET 11, UH, SIX 53 AND SIX 54 IN AMOUNT OF 33, 900 TOTAL PURCHASE PRICE OF 49, NINE 98 FOR ADULT PROBATION.
AND THIS IS PERMISSION FOR BASICALLY TWO THINGS TO TRADE IN THESE TWO ASSETS.
AND THIS WOULD BE PERMISSION TO GO AHEAD AND PLACE AN ORDER FOR THESE TAHOES.
THEY ARE NOT CURRENTLY AVAILABLE.
SO WE'RE REQUESTING PERMISSION FOR THE DEALERSHIP TO LOCATE THESE ITEMS
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AND IT WOULD BE UNDER THE BIDDING THRESHOLD QUESTIONS, JUDGE.I ACTUALLY TALKED TO MR. WASHBURN YESTERDAY, CAUSE HIS BUDGET'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM OURS.
YES, IT IS ON THE LINE ITEMS WHERE HE WAS GOING TO PAY US AND IT IS STATE MONEY.
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH COUNTY.
AND THAT'S ALWAYS A GOOD THING.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU FOR THAT.
IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION REGARDING ITEM SEVEN? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION BY MOTION TO APPROVE THAT PURCHASE.
WE HAVE THE EMOTIONAL COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS TWO, TWO.
WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY APPROVING THE PURCHASE AS MUCH AS YEAH, WE ARE.
UH, IS THERE A SECOND I'LL SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER BARBARA DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
[8. Raylan Smith; Discuss & Consider approval of the Kaufman County Vehicle Management Plan.]
CARRIES AUTOMATE.RAYLAND DISCUSS CONSIDER APPROVAL OF KAUFMAN COUNTY VEHICLE MANAGEMENT PLAN.
THIS IS A VEHICLE POLICY THAT WE HAVE DRAFTED AND IT'S ALSO GONE THROUGH LEGAL.
WE'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH SEVERAL TIMES ON THIS POLICY.
UM, BASICALLY WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT ELECTED OFFICIALS SUCH AS THE DA KSL RODEN BRIDGE, UM, THEY ALSO HAVE THEIR OWN ESTABLISHED POLICIES WITHIN THEIR DEPARTMENT.
SO BASICALLY WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR IS A MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR COUNTY OWNED FLEET WITHIN THE REGULAR DEPARTMENTS HERE AT THE COUNTY.
UM, AND SO IN DOING THAT, WE JUST WANTED TO KIND OF UPDATE AND CONCISE SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAD BACK IN 2014.
UM, IT'S JUST GOING TO HELP COVER SOME OF THE RISK MANAGEMENT AND INSURANCE CLAIM CONCERNS THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST FEW MONTHS.
UM, AND BRING UP TO DATE SOME OF THE MAINTENANCE, SOME OF THE EXPECTATIONS ON THE VEHICLES, ESPECIALLY AS WE'RE PUTTING NEWER FLEET ON THE ROAD.
UM, AND THIS WILL BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR THE DEPARTMENT HEADS TO TAKE THIS TO THE EMPLOYEES AND JUST KIND OF UPDATE THEM ON SOME OF THE VEHICLE INFORMATION.
I JUST HIGHLIGHTED A FEW OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY WE WANT TO HIGHLIGHT TO THE EMPLOYEES, AND THAT IS MORE OR LESS THE MOTOR VEHICLE RECORDS.
AND HAVING THAT BE SOMETHING THAT THE EMPLOYEES REALIZE THAT THAT CAN BE CHECKED PERIODICALLY FROM THE HR DEPARTMENT.
UM, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW THAT WE DO IF SOMEONE'S GOING TO DRIVE A VEHICLE OR IF THAT'S PART OF THEIR JOB DUTIES WHENEVER THEY'RE HIRED, BUT THAT WE COULD FOLLOW UP ON THROUGHOUT THEIR EMPLOYMENT WITH THE COUNTY.
UM, DEFINITELY DEFINING WHAT THAT REASONABLE TRAVEL IS TO AND FROM IF YOU HAVE A COUNTY VEHICLE DURING THE DAY.
UM, AND ALSO JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE A LIST ON FILE OF THOSE EMPLOYEES WHO ARE ASSIGNED VEHICLES AND TAKE THEM HOME AND KIND OF WHAT THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE.
SO THE, SO THE, THE HIGHLIGHTED DEAL WITH A LIST OF ALL VEHICLES AND EMPLOYEE ASSIGNMENT INFORMATION DOESN'T APPLY TO THE PRECINCTS.
NO, TH THIS IS MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS TO MAKE SURE FOR THOSE ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT DO NOT HAVE POLICIES CURRENTLY IN PLACE THIS WAY, IT'S A STARTING POINT.
THIS IS JUST A MINIMUM POLICY.
ONE THAT WE COULD MAKE SURE THAT THE REGULAR EMPLOYEES AT THE COUNTY CAN MAINTAIN.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO TAKE OVER ANY KIND OF ELECTED OFFICIAL OR LEFT THE DEPARTMENTS, BUT THERE ARE SOME REQUIREMENTS THAT THE COUNTY SHOULD BE AWARE OF.
IF YOU'VE GOT SOMEONE THAT'S HAD FIVE ACCIDENTS AND THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE FILED ACCIDENTS AND THEY'RE DRIVING A COUNTY VEHICLE, IT PUTS LIVE POTENTIAL LIABILITY ON THE COUNTY.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF WHO'S DRIVING AND THAT, THAT THERE ARE OUR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES TO PROTECT THE COUNTY.
IT'S JUST, WE HAVE A POOL OF PICKUP TRUCKS AND YES.
YOU CURRENTLY HAVE A POLICY IN PLACE.
SO THIS WOULD JUST BE MINIMUM STANDARDS ON THE COUNTY SIDE.
I HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I'LL ASK IT PRIVATELY.
UM, WELL THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE COFFIN COUNTY VEHICLE MANAGEMENT PLAN? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION WITH THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER HUNT.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER BARBARA DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? NO MOTION CARRIES.
[9. Raylan Smith; Discuss & Consider award of contract for RFP 21-08: Annual Contract for County Purchase of Various Road Materials, Hauling of Materials, & Road Projects.]
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OF CONTRACT RFP 2,108 ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR COUNTY PURCHASE OF VARIOUS ROAD MATERIALS, HAULING MATERIALS AND ROAD PROJECTS.UM, THIS WILL BE YOUR NEW PRICING FOR THE COUNTY ROAD MATERIALS.
UM, ON THE BID TABULATION, I DID HIGHLIGHT THE TWO, UM, VENDORS WHO CONTRACT WILL EXPIRE AS OF SEPTEMBER 30TH.
EVERYONE ELSE WILL BE RENEWED STARTING JUNE 1ST THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH OF 2023.
AND SO THEIR PRICING HAS BEEN UPDATED AND ALL OF THEIR DOCUMENTATION WAS IN PLACE THAT WE WILL GET ALL THIS INFORMATION TO THE PRECINCTS QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO AWARD CONTRACT RFI RFP 2108 HAS PRESENTED I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.
THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER CAGE.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES, UH, BACK TO REILAND
[10. Raylan Smith; Discuss/Consider approval of Road Construction Contracts and Associated Funding for Precincts 3 and 4 County Road & Bridge Projects in the amount of $633,944.10.]
DISCUSS CONSIDER APPROVAL OF ROAD CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS AND ASSOCIATED FUNDING FOR PRECINCT THREE AND FOUR ROAD AND BRIDGE IN THE AMOUNT OF 630 3009 44 AND OF COURSE, 10 CENTS.SO, UH, WE DO HAVE A CURRENT PROJECT GOING ON ON COLQUITT ROAD AND WE HAVE ADDED, UH, THE SECOND ROUND OFFENDING FOR COUNTY ROAD 40 15 AND DID WANT TO BRING EVERYONE HERE UP TO SPEED.
WE WILL GET, UM, THE BIDS IN ON THE 23RD, WHICH WILL BE THURSDAY.
UH, JUST AS SOON AS I CAN GET ALL OF THAT, THAT BID TAB TOGETHER, MATT AND POLLSTER.
AND I PLAN TO MEET WITH EACH OF Y'ALL GO OVER THE DIFFERENT BID TABS AND PUT TOGETHER THE BUDGET FOR THE SECOND ROUND OF FUNDING.
AND SO WE'LL COME TOGETHER FOR ONE, ANOTHER BIG BROWN OF FUNDING REQUEST AND, UH, WE'LL PUT TOGETHER THAT HUGE NEXT LIST OF FUNDING COMING UP.
UM, I HAD IT ON HERE TO SAY, I'VE RECEDED AND GOT CHUCK TO RESEAT THE BOND MONEY.
WE'VE GOT THAT I HAVE NOT ESTABLISHED A BUDGET BECAUSE I'M WAITING ON POLLSTER TO GIVE ME THOSE NUMBERS.
SO ONCE WE DO THAT AND I DID APPROVE THIS BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S MONEY THERE AND HE'LL PUT IT THERE IN THAT RIGHT LINE ITEM, WILL IT SOUNDS LIKE YOUR DETAIL IS ON THE WAY.
WE'RE HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF THE WEEK, WE'LL HAVE DRAFT TO WORK WITH.
UH, SO IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS, LOOK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE ROTOR AND CHURCH CONTRACTS IS PRESENTED IN THE AMOUNT OF 630 3009 44 10.
I'LL MAKE THE MOTION THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER IN CASE, IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER BARBER DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE, THOSE OPPOSED NO MOTION CARRIES.
[11. Raylan Smith; Discuss/Consider approval of payment for additional services for the 2021 Road Bond Program Management Support between Kaufman County and Teague Nail and Perkins, Inc. in the amount of $28,008.75.]
LAST ITEM FOR RAYLAND DISCUSS CONSIDER APPROVAL OF PAYMENT FOR ADDITIONAL SERVICES ON THE 2021 ROAD BOND PROGRAM MANAGEMENT SUPPORT AND TECHNO AND PERKINS IN THE AMOUNT OF 28,000 OH EIGHT 75 CENTS.UM, MR. POLLSTER DID FIND SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR ME TO PAY, UH, TMP ABOVE THEIR $11,000 FOR THE MONTH.
THIS WAS THE ROAD SPECIFICATIONS AND THE ADDITIONAL WORK THAT THEY DID PUTTING TOGETHER THE BID PACKETS.
UM, WHAT YOU WILL HAVE IS SPECIFICATIONS AND ALL OF THE INFORMATION FOR THIS SECOND ROUND OF ROADS.
SO THIS DID NOT COME OUT OF ANY OF YOUR ROAD FUNDING.
SO, UM, I THINK TIM FOR THAT, SO HE, UM, SO WE'LL PAY THE 11,000 AND THEN THIS WAS ABOVE THAT.
IF NO QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, THEN, UH, LOOK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE PAYMENT FOR ADDITIONAL SERVICES TO TECHNO PARKINS PERKINS 28,000 OH EIGHT 75.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND ONE COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
[12. Nathan Collins; Discuss/Consider approval of LOA (Letter of Authorization) for numbers to be ported from One Ring Networks to Lumen (previously Century Link).]
DISCUSS CONSIDER LETTERER OF APPROVAL LETTER OF AUTHORIZATION FOR NUMBERS TO BE PORTED FROM ONE RING NETWORKS TO LUMEN PREVIOUSLY CENTERLY CENTURY LINK.I DON'T BLAME HIM FOR CHANGING HER NAME.
SO THIS, UH, DOCUMENT I JUST GAVE YOU IS BASICALLY
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A COST ANALYSIS AND A SPEED ANALYSIS ANALYSIS BY GOING TO A CENTURY LINK.UM, SO THE FIRST ITEM THE LOA IS FOR PORTING OUR NUMBERS OVER TO CENTURY LINK.
AND THESE NUMBERS THAT ARE AFFECTED ARE THE FOUR SIX, NINE THREE SEVEN SIX NUMBERS THAT ARE USED IN THE COURTHOUSE AND, AND, UH, THE OTHER PRECINCTS.
SO DOING THAT, WE'LL SAVE AROUND $180 A MONTH, BUT IT'S A BETTER TRANSPORT AS WELL AT THE EOC.
AND I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND GO TO THE NEXT ITEM, UM, AS WELL, BECAUSE IT KIND OF GOES WITH THAT.
THE, UM, ITEM 12 I BELIEVE IS TO, UM, UPGRADE OUR INTERNET SERVICES AT THE, UM, EOC, WHICH WILL AFFECT THE FOUR MAJOR BUILDINGS IN COFFIN, THE COURTHOUSE, THE SOUTH ANNEX, KSL AND EOC.
SO WE WILL BE UPPING THE SPEED BY 750 MEGABITS PER SECOND, BUT ALSO WE'LL HAVE A MONTHLY SAVINGS OF $1,810.
SO THAT IS, UH, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE'LL BE GOING TO A FIBER TRANSPORT, WHICH IS A LOT MORE RELIABLE.
SO CURRENTLY WE'RE RADIO, RIGHT? CORRECT.
SO WE THAT'LL BE A BACKUP FOR US THE RADIO, OR WILL IT BE GOING AWAY? I WILL HAVE TO HAVE A BACKUP SOLUTION.
I WILL PROBABLY USE THAT AS A RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TWO CIRCUITS WITH ONE RING AND I WILL MOST LIKELY BE ELIMINATING ONE OF THEM AND POSSIBLY EVEN DOWNGRADING THE, THE SPEED.
UH, SO IT WILL BE A LITTLE LESS THAN WHAT WE'RE PAYING NOW, JUST BECAUSE WILL BE A BACKUP ONLY FOR WHEN WE'RE DOWN.
SO ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE TWO ITEMS? IT'S BEEN A PROJECT, HASN'T IT? IT IS, YES.
IT HAS BEEN ANYBODY HAVE A QUESTIONS? NO, MA'AM LESS MONEY IS GOOD.
NATHAN, I MEAN, NATHAN, I'VE HAD BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR, I DON'T KNOW, SEEMS LIKE SINCE I STARTED, BUT I DON'T KNOW A LONG, LONG TIME AND IT'S BEEN REALLY SLOW.
IT'S BEEN LONG ENOUGH FOR CENTURY LINK TO MERGE WITH LUMENS.
THEN WE HAVE, WE'LL GO BACK TO ITEM 12 AND TAKE THESE ONE AT A TIME.
CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE LETTER OF AUTHORIZATION FOR NUMBERS TO BE PORTED FROM ONE RING TO LUMEN.
IS THERE A MOTION TO DO SO? OH MY GOODNESS.
WE HAD A MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER BARBER DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES THEN
[13. Nathan Collins; Discuss/Consider approval of the amended contract for the circuit at the EOC to upgrade the County internet circuit to 1 gbps speeds.]
ITEM 13, WHICH HE PRESENTED IS DISCUSSED.CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AMENDED CONTRACT FOR THE CIRCUIT AT THE EOC TO UPGRADE THE COUNTY INTERNET CIRCUIT TO ONE GIGABYTE SPEEDS.
IS THERE A MOTION TO, UH, TO SUPPORT THAT? SO WE'LL MOVE.
WE HAVE THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER K2.
IS THERE A SECOND, A SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING I WAS OPPOSED.
[14. Nathan Collins; Discuss/Consider approval of a separate Metro E circuit from KSO to EOC.]
NEXT ITEM, UH, DISCUSSED CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A SEPARATE METRO E CIRCUIT FROM KSL TO E TO THE EOC.SO WHAT THIS DOES IS PUTS THE KSL AND THE EOC BASICALLY ON ONE NETWORK AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE SEPARATE FROM THE OTHER BUILDINGS.
THEY HAVE A LOT OF DEVICES, A LOT OF SERVERS, RADIO COMMUNICATION THAT THEY NEED TO BE ON ONE NETWORK RIGHT NOW THEY DO HAVE A POINT TO POINT CONNECTION, BUT IT IS THROUGH THOSE RADIOS, WHICH, UM, WE'VE HAD TIMES WHERE IT'S GONE DOWN, UH, WHEN WE HAD BAD WEATHER.
SO THIS IS TO ELIMINATE THAT IT'LL BE A DEDICATED FIBER CONNECTION BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS, UH, QUESTIONS.
WHAT WHAT'S A COST? IS THERE ADDITIONAL COST FOR THIS? YES, SIR.
IT'S GOING TO BE $900 A MONTH, MONTHLY RECURRING COST, WHICH IS THE SAME AS WHAT WE'RE PAYING FOR THE OTHER BUILDINGS TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER.
IT COSTS A LOT TO HAVE A DEDICATED INTERNET CONNECTION BETWEEN YOUR BUILDINGS.
JUST SO PHONES CAN COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER SERVERS WHERE YOU CAN CONNECT TO SERVERS.
UM, COMPUTERS CAN CONNECT TO EACH OTHER.
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JUST A LITTLE CONFUSED.ARE YOU REPLACING ONE COST WITH ANOTHER OR THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL THOUGHT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THE RADIOS, WHICH WERE A ONE-TIME PAYMENT.
SO THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL, BUT IT IS BUDGET FUNDED.
WELL, HE SAID HE'S SAVING 1800 AND ON ONE END, HE'S ONLY SPENDING NINE.
SAVING YOU PAYING A HUNDRED AND YOU'RE GOING TO GAIN THAT A HUNDRED AND THE TOTAL $910 A DAY ON GAME MY BED.
AND ACTUALLY I WAS HOPING THAT THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE A LONG TIME AGO.
SO I HAD ALREADY INCREASED MY BUDGET FROM LAST YEAR.
TO COVER THIS, ARE YOU DONE WITH THIS? ARE WE LIKE, HAVE YOU TURNED THE CORNER NOW WITH WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO COMPLETE ALL OF THIS? I WILL BE DONE.
UNTIL THAT NEXT ONE COMES ALONG.
YOU KNOW, BASICALLY YOU'RE GOING TO FIBER AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH.
IT'S GOING TO BE BETTER, MORE SECURE AND I'M SURE THEY WENT AFTER THAT.
SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON ITEM 14? NO, IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE A SEPARATE METRO EAST CIRCUIT FROM KSL EOC AS PRESENTED? OH MY GOODNESS.
WE HAD A MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS IS OUR SECOND I'LL SECOND CHECK WITH COMMISSIONER HUNT.
DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
[15. Monique Hunter; Discuss/Consider motion to approve interlocal cooperation agreement between Kaufman County and the City of Cottonwood.]
DISCUSS, CONSIDER MOTION TO APPROVE INNER LOCAL COOPERATION AGREEMENT DOING COFFIN COUNTY IN THE CITY OF COTTONWOOD.ANOTHER ONE, STILL TRACKING THEM DOWN, SLOW AND STEADY, I GUESS.
AND A LOT OF TIMES THEY'RE HAVING A LITTLE TROUBLE FINDING THEIR BOUNDARIES, YOU KNOW? CAUSE THEY, THEY NEED TO TURN IN THAT EXHIBIT A AND WITH THE TURNOVERS IN THEIR LITTLE TINY CITIES, THEY DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THE, WHAT THE BOUNDARIES ARE.
SO, UM, YES, THIS ONE IS FOR COTTONWOOD AND UM, THEY WOULD LIKE TO GRANT US JURISDICTION IN THEIR ETJ.
HOW MANY MORE DO YOU HAVE TO GO? SIX.
SO WE'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE WITH OTHER CITIES.
UM, UH, MANY HAVE HE WON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT? NOPE.
UH, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE INNER LOCAL COOPERATION AGREEMENT? DESPERATE AS PRESENTED ON ITEM 15? MAKE THE MOTION.
WE HAVE A MOTION COMMISSIONER CATES.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION.
THAT WAS A FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? NO MOTION CARRIES.
[16. Kristi Dickey; Discuss/Consider motion to approve final plat of Luckett Estates located on CR 155 in Pet. 4.]
DICKIE DISCUSSED CONSIDERED MOTION TO APPROVE FINAL PLAT FOR LUCKETT ESTATES LOCATED ON COUNTY ROAD.UM, THIS IS A FINAL PLAT FOR LIKE AT A STATE'S LOCATED ON COUNTY ROAD ONE 55 AND PRECINCT FOUR.
THIS WILL CONTAIN TWO LIGHTS BEING SPLIT.
UH, ONE LOT WILL BE 1.9 TO THREE ACRES.
AND THE SECOND LOT BEING 31.2, THREE NINE ACRES.
WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS.
ALL APPROVING AUTHORITIES HAVE GONE OVER THE PAPERWORK AND GOTTEN EVERYTHING IN ORDER THERE.
DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL PLANS FOR THE 30 PLUS ACRE TRACK? NO, SIR.
UM, THE FATHER PASSED AWAY AND THE DAUGHTER IS SPLITTING AND SHE'S SELLING THE WHOLE 31 ACRES TO ONE PERSON AND THEN ANOTHER PERSON WILL TAKE THE 1.9.
IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT FINAL PLAT OF LUCKY TO STATES IS PRESENTED? SO MOVED WHERE THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER CATES IS THERE A SECOND? SO SECOND ONE COMMISSIONER BARBER DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.
[17. Kristi Dickey; Discuss/Consider motion to approve replat of lots 1, 2, & 3 on Country Club Drive in Fairway Gardens, located in Pet. 4.]
DISCUSS, CONSIDER MOTION TO APPROVE REPLAT OF LOTS.ONE, TWO AND THREE ON COUNTRY CLUB DRIVE IN FAIRWAY GARDENS IN PRECINCT FOUR.
UM, LOTS, ONE AND THREE WILL BE ABSORBING LOTS.
TWO TO MAKE ONE IN THREE LARGER THEY'RE IN A FAIRWAY GARDENS.
AND WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REPLY.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? OKAY.
THEN IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE REPLAY OF LAST ONE, TWO AND THREE IN COUNTRY CLUB DRIVE IS PRESENTED.
WE HAD THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER CASE.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
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OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.[18. Kristi Dickey; Discuss/Consider motion to approve preliminary plat for Towering Oaks Estates on CR 129 located in Pet. 1.]
CHRISTIE DISCUSSED.CONSIDER MOTION APPROVING PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR TOWERING OAKS ESTATES ON COUNTY ROAD ONE 29 LOCATED IN PRECINCT ONE.
THIS ONE, UM, PER OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, PRELIMINARY PLATS, UH, WITH INFRASTRUCTURE MUST BE BROUGHT BEFORE THE COURT FOR APPROVAL.
SO TOWERING OAK IS, UH, STATES ON COUNTY ROAD ONE 29 LOCATED IN PRECINCT ONE.
UM, WE'RE ASKING FOR THE APPROVAL OF THAT.
UH, THE NEXT STEP WILL BE A PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING AND WE WILL INVITE YOU TO THE COMMISSIONER, TO THE, TO THAT MEETING.
UM, WHEN IT IS SCHEDULED, THIS WILL BE A SUBDIVISION WITH 21 LOTS, UH, ROUGHLY ONE ACRE, EACH QUESTIONS OR NO QUESTIONS.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR TOWERING OAKS OF STATES ON COUNTY ROAD ONE 29, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PLUM.
WE HAVE THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER HUNT IS OUR SECOND I'LL SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? NO MOTION CARRIES.
[19. Auditor; Discuss/Consider line item transfers.]
NOW WE'RE GOING TO, BEFORE WE DO THESE OTHER ITEMS, WE'RE GONNA ASK THE AUDITOR BRING FORTH LINE ON THE TRANSFERS.THESE WERE EMAILED TO YOU LAST WEEK.
DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS ABOUT LINE ITEM TRANSFERS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED, MAKE A MOTION WHERE THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER BARBERS OR SECOND BY SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.
[20. Auditor; Discuss/Consider claims for payment.]
TO THE AUDITOR AGAIN, CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT, UH, YOUR CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT OR MILLION $400,150 AND 18 CENTS A PAYROLL OF $1,365,297 AND 8 CENTS.TOTAL EXPENDITURES OF $2,765,447 AND 26 CENTS.
UH, QUESTIONS FOR THE AUDITOR, IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT AS PRESENTED ON LIKE THE MOST WE HAD THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER HUNT.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER CAGE DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
[21. Judge Richards; Discuss/consider/approve taking all appropriate action to foreclose on the lien taken October 3, 2019 on Property ID 8467,14843 Hwy 243, Kaufman, and Angelia Myers, owner.]
ITEM 21.THAT'S MINE DISCUSS, CONSIDER ERR FOR APPROVAL, TAKING ALL APPROPRIATE ACTION TO FORECLOSE ON A LIEN TAKEN OCTOBER 3RD, 2019 ON PROPERTY ID EIGHT FOUR SIX, SEVEN 1814, EIGHT 43, HIGHWAY TWO 43 KAUFMAN AND ANGELA AND ANGELA MYERS, THE OWNER.
UH, I'M GONNA KICK THAT I GUESS TO KAREN, UH, ER, THIS WAS TABLED LAST TIME.
SO IT COMES BACK ON THE AGENDA.
UH, DO YOU WANT TO UPDATE US OR, OR COMMISSIONER HUNT OR DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? OKAY.
YEAH, I THINK THERE'S SOME PRE-STEPS THAT WE'RE PROBABLY GOING, I THINK MR. HUNT THERE'S SOME PRE-STEPS I MUST SPEAK FOR YOU.
YEAH, WELL BASICALLY THE ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER'S ROOM GETTING THEIR CONTINUING EDUCATION TRAINING LAST WEEK.
SO I GOT TO MEET WITH THEM YESTERDAY AFTERNOON AND THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE STEPS THAT THE LEGAL STEPS WE TO GO THROUGH WITH THEM.
AND UH, SO I JUST LIKE TO TABLE THIS AND WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO COURT WHENEVER WE GET EVERYTHING WORKED OUT.
SO, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT, UM, THERE'S JUST FOR THE COURTS UNDER SAYING THERE'S KIND OF TWO ISSUES HERE.
ONE ISSUE IS FORECLOSING ON THE LIEN.
THE OTHER ISSUE IS REALLY THE ENVIRONMENTAL CLEANUP.
SO I THINK THAT THEY WANT TO TABLE REALLY MAKING A DECISION FROM WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ON THE LEGAL ISSUE OF FORECLOSING A JUDICIAL FORECLOSURE ON THE LIEN UNTIL THEY CAN WORK OUT WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICERS, SOME OTHER ALTERNATIVES FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL CLEANUP.
SO DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME ON, ON THAT? WELL, IF WE TABLE IT, IT COMES BACK UP NEXT A WEEK OR LESS DON'T TYPE IT.
THERE'S JUST LET IT GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND I'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE COURT WHENEVER WE GET TO THAT POINT.
SO WE'RE NOT TAKING ANY ACTION ON THIS, IS THAT WHAT YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS? NOT AT THIS TIME.
THEN JUST FOR PROCEDURE, I'LL CALL FOR A MOTION ON ITEM 21, HEARING NONE.
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WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 22,[22. Raylan Smith; Discuss Facilities Master Plan Design Priorities & Lease Space Department Assignments.]
UH, ITEM 22, RAYLAND DISCUSS, UH, FACILITIES, MASTER PLAN, DESIGN PRIORITIES AND LEASE SPACE.THAT'S KIND OF A MOUTHFUL THERE REILAND BUT BEFORE YOU START, UM, WELL I'LL I'LL, I, I, I WAS CONTACTED BY, UH, HOK, YOU KNOW, AFTER WE STARTED DOING THIS MASTER PLANNING, KURT, KURT SUGGESTED THAT HE REMINDED ME THAT THE JUSTICE CENTER IS DESIGNED FOR EXPANSION ON BOTH ENDS.
IT WAS DESIGNED TO EXPAND ON THE COURT'S END TO ADD COURTS.
THE OTHER END, IT WAS DESIGNED TO EXPAND, I GUESS, WHAT I WOULD CALL THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE OR THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT BUILDING.
AND HE SAID, AFTER WE'VE DONE THIS MASTER PLANNING AND KIND OF NEW INFORMATION WAS BROUGHT UP THIS IDEA OF, OF, UH, PROVIDING SPACE FOR THE PRECINCT FOR OPERATIONS.
HE SUGGESTED THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT RATHER THAN BUILD ANOTHER BUILDING.
WE MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE DESIGN.
THEY'VE ALREADY BUILT IN TO THE JUSTICE CENTER AND LOOK AT DOING AN EXPANSION ON THAT END OF THE BUILDING ON THE, WHAT I WOULD CALL THE NORTH SIDE OR THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
THE ONLY THING, UH, WHAT HE, HE SAID THAT WOULD, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GIVE HIM INSTRUCTIONS TO GET TO WORK ON IT PRETTY SOON.
AND I DON'T KNOW, RATHER THAN IF YOU TALK TO HIM ABOUT, SINCE I TALKED TO HIM LAST WEEK, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, GREG WAS IN HERE A WHILE AGO TALKING ABOUT POURING CONCRETE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO I DON'T KNOW, IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THEY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR TIMEFRAME IS THEY'VE ALREADY GOT.
I THINK THE BILL, THE BILLING SENSIBILITY IS ALREADY DESIGNED FOR THAT.
THEY PROBABLY HAVE A LOT OF THE PREPARATIONS FOR, YOU KNOW, REBAR AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
RIGHT? SO A LOT OF THOSE PIECES ARE ALREADY BUILT INTO THE JUSTICE CENTER.
LIKE AS FAR AS HOW THE HALLWAYS IN HOW THE ELECTRICAL IS DESIGNED, HOW THE SECURITY IS DESIGNED INTO THE BUILDING AS WELL.
UM, THE REAL ADVANTAGES TO AN ADD-ON TO THE BUILDING AT THIS POINT WOULD BE THE TIME IN MAKING A DECISION LIKE THAT.
BECAUSE IF YOU WERE ABLE TO CATCH UP WITH THE CONTRACTORS THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE ONSITE, THEN YOU WERE DOING A CHANGE ORDER TO YOUR EXISTING CONTRACTS AND YOU'RE NOT REBIDDING A SEPARATE, UM, PROJECT.
UH, SO ANYTHING THAT COMPLETES SUCH AS CONCRETE OR FOUNDATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT, YOU'RE HAVING TO GO BACK OUT AND REVISIT.
UM, BUT IF WE'RE ABLE TO CATCH UP WITH THE PROCESS AND, UM, YOU'RE ABLE TO CAPTURE THE CONTRACTORS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE.
UM, SO OBVIOUSLY TIME WOULD BE OF THE ESSENCE BECAUSE WE'RE UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
UM, HE DID MENTION THAT SOME OF THE COSTS SAVINGS COULD BE, YOU KNOW, HAVING A SEPARATE ENTRANCE.
UM, AND SO YOUR, BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE SEPARATE INSURANCE FOR SECURITY, THERE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, SOME DIFFERENT POSSIBILITIES THAT YOU, YOU WOULD HAVE WHERE IT WOULD BE LOOKED AT AS A SEPARATE FACILITY.
UM, SO THERE WOULD BE SOME SEPARATE PIECES THAT YOU COULD LOOK AT.
OBVIOUSLY YOU WOULD DO THE VALUE ENGINEERING, JUST LIKE WE DID ON THE JUSTICE CENTER.
BUT AGAIN, IT WOULD BE HOW FAST COULD THEY GET THAT INFORMATION TURNED AROUND? AND IF THAT WAS FEASIBLE TO YOU, HOW FAST WE COULD GET THAT IN MOTION FOR THE CONTRACTORS? WELL, I MEAN, YOU SAID THAT, UM, IN THE PLANS WERE PLANNED FOR GROWTH AND THERE WAS THE HALLWAYS, THE END AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, BUT DID THEY ALSO EXTEND THE PAD AND DO THE PAD WORK SINCE THEY WERE PLANNING ON EXPANSION SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE? NO, THE PAD IS NOT THERE.
I MEAN, THAT'S, THE ROADWAY IS BUILT AROUND.
HOW ABOUT THE DIRT PAD? NOT A CONCRETE PAD, BUT THE DIRT, NO PLANNING FOR EXPANSION YOU WERE SAYING WHEN THEY HAD ALL THE DARK STUFF OUT THERE, THEY WOULD GO IN AND PLAN FOR THE FUTURE AND KIND OF LIKE THE HALLWAYS DID ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING WOULD BE PART OF THE PLAN.
WELL, NUMBER ONE, I'D LIKE TO CREDIT COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS BECAUSE HE RAISED THIS CONCEPT THE OTHER DAY.
UM, UH, AND, AND IT, WHAT THIS WHOLE IDEA DOES IS KIND OF ACCELERATE THE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION.
BUT, UH, UH, IT DOES SEEM TO ME, UM, THAT IF, IF WE RECOGNIZE AND, AND ULTIMATELY ACT ON A GENUINE NEED FOR AN ADDITIONAL COUNTY SERVICES
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FACILITY THAT, UH, RATHER THAN BUILD A SEPARATE STRUCTURE OUT THERE, PARTICULARLY SINCE, UH, THE BENEFITS THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED, UH, RELATIVE TO CHANGE ORDER, AS OPPOSED TO, TO A NEW CONSTRUCTION, A NEW BIDDING, IT SEEMS LIKE, UH, THE, THAT THE LIKELIHOOD IS THAT IN THE END WE WOULD SAVE QUITE A BIT OF MONEY OVER TRYING TO BUILD A SEPARATE STRUCTURE.UM, I THINK THE OPERATING COSTS TOO, BECAUSE I REMEMBER THEY TOLD US THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY BROUGHT UP THE CITY, IT'S ALWAYS MORE EXPENSIVE TO OPERATE TWO BUILDINGS RATHER THAN HE IS.
AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS SPACE STUDY HAS DEMONSTRATED THE NEED BOTH FOR THE ADDITIONAL PRECINCT FOR RELOCATION.
UH, WE, I THINK WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION, SOME INFORMAL, SOME MORE FORMAL THAT, UH, THAT SPACE FOR BOTH JP ONE AND FOUR, UH, ARE, ARE KIND OF A, UM, ACCEPTED, UH, AS, UM, UH, AS, UH, GONNA BE A FUTURE NEED FOR SURE.
ALONG WITH ALL THE OTHER SERVICES THAT, UH, THAT WE DISCUSSED, ADULT PROBATION, PRE-TRIAL ALL NEEDING A SEPARATE SPACE AND, AND REALLY PREDOMINANTLY NOT, UH, NOT DIRECTLY TIED TO JUSTICE OPERATIONS.
SO, UM, BEING ABLE TO AT LEAST CONSIDER, UM, EXPANDING THIS, THIS BUILDING THAT IS CURRENTLY, UH, I MEAN, ADMITTEDLY RIGHT AT THE CUTTING EDGE OF, UH, THE DIRT EQUIPMENT IS OUT THERE, THE PLANNING FOR PARKING AND EVERYTHING ELSE, UM, YOU KNOW, TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE.
AND NOW IS THAT TIME I THINK, UM, I THINK THIS WAS REALLY SOMETHING WE OUGHT TO GIVE SOME STRONG CONSIDERATION TO, AND WE OUGHT TO MAKE THAT DECISION PRETTY QUICKLY.
DO WE HAVE, UH, DO WE HAVE SUFFICIENT MONEY IN THE, THIS WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL,
DO WE HAVE MONEY IN THE MASTER PLAN? DO YOU THINK THAT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT TO, SO HERE, PART OF THE REASON WHY I WANTED TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION WITH YOU IS JUST TO SPEAK VERY OPENLY AND CANDIDLY ABOUT THE MONEY.
UM, JERRY AND I HAVE BEEN MEETING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW WE CAN SAVE MONEY.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE BUDGET, HOW CAN WE START SAVING NOW, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT OPERATIONS, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT, HOW CAN WE, YOU KNOW, START SAVING MONEY WITHIN THE COUNTY OPERATING BUDGET.
THAT'S WHY I'M GIVING YOU WHAT, WHAT IS ESSENTIALLY A WORKSHEET OF HOW WE CAN PAY FOR WHAT WE KNOW OUR NEEDS WITHIN THE COUNTY, REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE WANT TO DO IN THE COUNTY.
IT HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN ADDRESSED THAT THESE ARE HOWEVER YOU DO IT.
AND AT WHAT LEVEL YOU DO IT, YOU HAVE FACILITY NEEDS WITHIN THE COUNTY.
SO, YOU KNOW, MY PROPOSAL, BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT DIFFERENT WAYS, YOU KNOW, IN DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT WE WOULD HAVE OF HOW TO DO RENOVATIONS VERSUS, UM, NEW FACILITIES.
I THINK THAT THE FEASIBILITY STUDY IS POSSIBLY GOING TO BE CUT IN HALF.
UM, WE COULD ABSOLUTELY GO AHEAD AND PAY FOR THE, UM, DESIGN ESTIMATES FOR THE COUNTY SERVICES WITHIN THE FACILITY, BONDS MONEY.
UM, IT WAS ESTIMATED RIGHT AT 600,000 TO DO A NEW FACILITY, BUT NOW ALL YOU'RE LOOKING AT ARE, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS JUST GETTING A CONCEPT PLAN, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT A THIRD OF THAT.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOUR COSTS FOR EVERYTHING AT THIS POINT IS GOING TO BE LESS TO GET THAT PUT TOGETHER AND OBVIOUSLY IS GOING TO COST YOU MONEY, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT FUNDING OPTIONS AS WELL.
SO AT THIS POINT, WE JUST KIND OF, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT IT IS THAT YOU WANT TO DO.
AND THEN WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU WITH SOLID FUNDING OPTIONS OF HOW TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN, THAT I CAN ASSURE YOU, WE CAN PUT WITH OUR TOTAL AMOUNT AND WHAT WE'VE OBLIGATED AND WHAT WE HAVE LEFT TO WORK WITH.
AND THAT THAT'S, WHAT'S DOWN HERE DOWN AT THE BOTTOM, IN SMALL PRINT.
WELL, I GET ALL THE PROJECTS ON THERE.
SO THE BIG DEAL FOR ME IS RENOVATING THE COURTHOUSE BECAUSE TAKING THE BEST BILL OFF THE FRONT, THE SECURITY VEST BILL OFF IS NOT RENOVATING THE COURTHOUSE.
AND, YOU KNOW, IF THEY, IF THEY REALLY WANT TO LOOK AT THE COURTHOUSE, IT WOULD PROBABLY
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BE DEMOLISHED BECAUSE THE MECHANICALS ARE BAD.THE SEWER BACKS UP, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THERE'S FEDERAL, THERE'S WIRING IN THERE.
THIS ANTIQUE, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY'LL EVEN USE ANY MORE THAN THE FEDERAL BOXES.
AND THERE'S A REASON FEDERAL WENT OUT OF BUSINESS AND WE'VE GOT PEOPLE PATCHING THERE LIKE SARDINES.
SO, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A, YOU KNOW, SO I MEAN, RENOVATION REALLY NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE AT THE COURTHOUSE AND PLUS TOO, I MEAN, THAT'S THE DOG AND PONY SHOW EVERYTHING WE SAY, WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A JUSTICE CENTER AND RENOVATE THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE.
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S NOT LEFT OUT WHEN WE START SPENDING MONEY, THAT WE TAKE CARE OF THAT LIKE PROPOSAL REAL QUICK.
SO NOW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THIS IS A SAMPLE OF JUST THE WORKSHEET AND HOW WE CAN START SPENDING MONEY A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.
UM, SO I GOT WITH KURT AND I, I KNOW THAT YOU'VE ALSO SPOKEN WITH HIM AND HE IS GOING TO MEET WITH THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION.
AND HE'S GOT ALL OF OUR DOCUMENTATION AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, OUR PLAN PRIOR.
AND HIS PROPOSAL IS 39,007 60 TO TAKE WHAT WE HAVE AND MOLDED INTO THE NEW PROGRAMMING WITH OUR, THE CURRENT DEPARTMENTS AND HOW TO MAKE ALL OF THAT WORK TOGETHER.
SO RATHER THAN PULL THAT OUT OF FACILITIES, BOND, I'M PROPOSING THAT, THAT COME OUT OF OUR PROFESSIONAL FEES AND SERVICES, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T USED VERY MUCH OF THAT WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND.
UM, AND WE'RE GOING TO SAVE SOME MONEY ON THE FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR THE JUVENILE CENTER.
UM, SO WE'RE NOT ALWAYS PULLING FROM THE FACILITIES BOND, BUT WE'RE PULLING FROM GENERAL FUND.
ALSO, JUST STAYING VERY MUCH AWARE OF BALANCING, NOT EVERYTHING HAS TO COME OUT OF BOND MONEY BECAUSE WE'RE ALSO WORKING OUT OF THE BUDGETED FUNDS THAT YOU HAVE AVAILABLE ALSO.
UM, SO IF THAT IS APPROVED, THEN WE WOULD ABSOLUTELY GET STARTED ON THE PROGRAMMING AND PLANNING FOR THE COURTHOUSE, BECAUSE THAT ABSOLUTELY HAS TO HAPPEN SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT THOSE CONSTRUCTION COSTS ARE GOING TO BE, WHICH WE KNOW THE CONSTRUCTION CAN'T BEGIN UNTIL JUSTICE CENTER.
YEAH, IT STARTED, UM, IF PRIORITY THREE, FOUR IS KILLED, WHICH WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY PRECINCT ONE IN FOUR, THEN THE NEXT AMOUNT OF MONEY, WHICH WOULD BE MORE SIGNIFICANT, SO THAT WOULDN'T NEED TO BE PULLED OUT OF BOND FUNDS WOULD BE THE DESIGN SERVICES AND IT WOULD BE CHEAPER TO OPERATIONALLY AND TO BUILD AND TO DESIGN, TO ADD ONTO THE JUSTICE CENTER.
SO IF YOU WANTED TO AGREE TO GO AHEAD AND DO THOSE DESIGN SERVICES, THEN WE COULD PULL THAT OUT OF THE BOND FUNDS AND THEN DECIDE AT THAT POINT, MAYBE WE'LL HAVE MORE CLARIFICATION ON OUR ADDITIONAL FUNDING AND THEN WE'LL KNOW WHICH WAY TO GO ON THAT.
I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE PRIORITIES ARE.
AND THEN THAT WAY, AS THE FUNDING COMES IN AND WE'VE GOT CLEAR JUSTIFICATION ON THE FUNDING, THEN WE'LL KNOW THAT WE KNOW NEXT IS COURTHOUSE, THEN WE KNOW.
AND THEN THAT WAY, WHEN THE FUNDING COMES IN, WE'LL KNOW HOW TO ALLOCATE THOSE FUNDS, BUT WE'LL HAVE THE DESIGN WORK DONE IN CONSTRUCTION ESTIMATES.
WELL, I MEAN, I THINK THERE'S NO QUESTION WE'RE COMMITTED TO PRESERVING AND RESTORING AND REMODELING OUR HISTORIC COURTHOUSE.
SO CLEARLY WE OUGHT TO, WE OUGHT TO START PRETTY QUICKLY KNOWING WHAT THAT'S GOING TO COST.
SO, I MEAN, I THINK WE, I THINK WE CAN GENERALLY BE IN AGREEMENT THAT THAT'S AN IMPORTANT STEP THAT WE OUGHT TO TAKE, BUT WE NEED TO KNOW HOW MUCH THAT COURTHOUSE IS GOING TO COST TO, UH, TO RENOVATE, TO, TO, UH, YOU KNOW, MEET THE CONDITIONS THAT IN THE FUNCTION THAT WE WANTED TO MEET.
UH, THE, THE COMPETING INTEREST IS THAT THIS QUESTION OF EXPANSION OF THE FOOTPRINT OF THE JUSTICE CENTER, THAT'S SOME, WE HAVE TO PULL THE TRIGGER ON NOW BECAUSE THEY'RE PUSHING DIRT FOR IT.
AND MAYBE STARTING TO POUR CONCRETE IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.
WELL, THE DECISION THAT HOK NEEDS RIGHT NOW IS NOT TO GO WITH THAT PROJECT.
ALL THEY NEED IS FOR SOMEBODY TO TELL THEM, GIVE US A DESIGN, TELL US, UH, TELL HIM A DOLLAR AMOUNT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE, BUT THEY NEED THAT.
THEY NEED TO GET STARTED ON THAT.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THAT WAS MY WHOLE CONCEPT WAS WHEN WE BROUGHT UP BUILDING THIS ON THE BILLING, I KIND OF REJECTED THEM BECAUSE I FELT LIKE WE WERE SHORTCHANGED IN OUR JAILS
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WITH THE JUSTICE CENTER.IF WE NEED ALL THESE COURT MELONS AND THEY'RE IN THE SAME PLACEMENT ACROSS THE STREET, IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME.
SO, YOU KNOW, I'M ALL FOR NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
WE ALL KNOW THAT WE NEED TO PULL THE TRIGGER ON THIS TO GET FOUR, AND ONE'S JP A GOOD PLACE FOR A HOME AND OFFICES AND THE THINGS THAT SERVICE CRANDALL AND KEMP, BECAUSE CRANLEIGH, DOESN'T REALLY HAVE A GOOD PLACE FOR SERVICE.
YOU KNOW, WE JUST NEED THEM, WE JUST NEED TO PULL THIS TRIGGER AND IT CUTS OUT A BUILDING.
AND I DID WANT TO MENTION SOMETHING THAT KURT HAD BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE COURTHOUSE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, A LOT, SOME OF THE WORK THAT THEY'RE GOING TO RECOMMEND ABOUT WITH THE COURTHOUSE WOULD BE CAPITAL PROJECTS WITHIN OUR BUDGET, BECAUSE THEY WILL HAVE THE RECOMMENDATION IN THE BREAKDOWN OF SOME OF THE THINGS, SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT COULD BE DONE WHILE WE'RE CURRENTLY, WHILE THE CURRENT STAFF IS IN THERE.
SO SOME OF THAT WON'T BE, YOU KNOW, ONE LUMP SUM TURNAROUND CONTRACT, BUT MAYBE SOME OF WHAT WE COULD BUDGET AND, UH, TAKE AWAY FROM IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, WHILE WE'RE WAITING ON THE JUSTICE CENTER, WHEN THE JUSTICE CENTER BUILT AND EVERYBODY MOVES OUT OF THE COURTHOUSE, WHAT COULD I HAVE A COMPLETELY EMPTY FLOOR PROBLEM TO WORK ON FOR A YEAR OR TWO AND WORK THEN, AND MOVE THE PEOPLE AROUND IN THE BUILDING AS IT WORKS.
SO, I MEAN, THAT'S, AND WE DO HAVE TO DO THAT.
WE HAVE TO BE COMMITTED TO THE COURTHOUSE.
AND IF YOU GOT, I MEAN, WE HAD WHAT, $50 MILLION AND RODNEY, AND W WE HOPEFULLY WILL COME IN UNDER BUDGET WITH THE JUSTICE CENTER AND THE PATH.
BUT EVEN IF YOU JUST TAKE THE RAW NUMBERS AND SAY, HERE, YOU HAVE LIKE 3 MILLION FOR THE RENOVATION OF THE COURTHOUSE, PRETTY MUCH EATS THEM FOR 50.
AND THEN THE ADDITION, IF WE GO WITH THAT, THEN AT THIS POINT, ROUGHLY, I MEAN, THAT'S REALLY ALL YOU REALLY CAN COMMIT TO UNTIL YOU SEE FINAL DOLLARS THAT ARE LEFT OVER AND THAT'S JUST A SPECULATION.
IT'S A SEVEN, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE MCCOY STUDY THAT WAS DONE ON THE COURTHOUSE NOW, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS DONE FOR TWO REASONS.
AND THAT WAS, THERE WAS ACTUALLY TWO OF THEM DONE.
ONE OF THEM WAS DONE BEFORE I WAS HERE.
AND THEN WE, WE, WE FRESHENED THAT UP BECAUSE THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION, WE WERE, WE WERE TRYING TO DO TWO THINGS.
NUMBER ONE IS WE WERE TRYING TO GET THEM TO GIVE US MORE TIME ON THE VESTIBULE.
AND, UH, THAT WAS ONE THING WE WERE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.
THE OTHER THING WE WERE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WAS TO, UH, TRY TO MAKE AN APPLICATION FOR A GRANT, WHICH, YOU KNOW, DIDN'T, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY AND THAT, THAT DIDN'T WORK.
SO, BUT THEIR NUMBER WAS LIKE 7 MILLION, I THINK.
BUT EVEN WITH THE RENOVATION THERE, IT'S NOT LIKE A RESTORATION AND YOU'RE RIGHT WITH THAT.
AND WE HAD TO JUMP THROUGH A LOT OF HOOPS TO GET THE GRANT MONEY BECAUSE THEY KIND OF WROTE IN HIS HOSTAGE FOR THE MONEY.
BUT IF WE RENOVATE, THERE'S STILL SMALL THINGS WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ENGINEER AND THIS STORE, THE LADY THAT HANDLES THE COURTHOUSES ARE ON THE SAME PAGE.
SO WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER VESTIBULE PROBLEM OVER A COURTROOM WHERE THE JUDGES OFFICE, IT'S JUST SMALL THINGS IN THERE THAT THEY WANT TO SEE WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND BE KEPT IN THE LOOP ON.
IT'S NOT THAT THEY'RE MANDATING A LOT OF STUFF.
IT'S JUST, WE STILL HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH SOME HOOPS TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY.
AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE ON THE SAME PAGE, YOU KNOW? CAUSE WELL, OKAY.
THE OTHER THING TO REMEMBER IS THAT WE NEED THESE FEASIBILITY PLANS OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THESE THINGS, THESE, THESE, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST FOCUSED ESTIMATES BECAUSE WE SPEND MONEY ON THAT COURTHOUSE EVERY DAY.
SO MAYBE WE COULD, IF WE HAD A, YOU KNOW, A TRUE ROADMAP OF, WHAT'S GONNA, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT'S GOING TO END UP, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT WOULD HELP US MAKE DECISIONS ON WHETHER WE NEED TO REPLACE A GO AHEAD AND REPLACE A WHOLE PANEL RIGHT NOW, OR, OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT, THINK WHAT KURT WAS SAYING THERE, MAYBE SOME STUFF THAT WE CAN, THE THINGS YOU CAN DO WITHIN YOUR BUDGET FOR THE NEXT DAY TOO, PART OF OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR REGULAR MAINTENANCE PLAN, RIGHT? YEAH, YEAH.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE WHEN YOU STARTED GETTING THE MECHANICAL, THE PLUMBING AND ELECTRICAL AND STUFF, IT WOULD BE SO NICE TO HAVE AN EMPTY FLOOR OR EMPTY BUILDING.
WHAT'S YOUR KNOWLEDGE, BUT WE HAVE THAT PROBLEM.
I MEAN, EVEN IN CAMP, YOU KNOW, WE GOT $130,000 BUILDING.
AND THE PLUMBING IS COMING UP OUT OF THE FLOOR AND YOU KNOW, THE NEXT THING, YOU KNOW, JUST TO, JUST TO FIX ONE BATHROOM, WE'RE SPENDING 10 GRAND ON $130,000 BUILDING.
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I MEAN, WE HAVE TO DECIDE, ARE WE MOVING AHEAD OR ARE WE JUST GOING TO KEEP EATING THIS? YEAH, YEAH.BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT JUST BEING IN THE BUILDING, YOU KNOW, SO MUCH STUFF IT'S GOING TO BE TOUGH.
SO WE ARE IN AGREEMENT FOR DESIGN OF THE COURTHOUSE AND EXPANSION OF THE JUSTICE CENTER TO INCLUDE PRECINCT ONE AND FOUR.
AND WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO FORMALIZE, WE'LL DO THAT IN THE NEXT NEXT YEAR.
AND WE NEED TO FORMALIZE THAT, WHICH IS THE COUNTY SERVICES.
I'M JUST MAKING SURE I'M CLEAR.
UM, SO THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IS, UM, THE LEASED SPACE AND JUST MAKING SURE THAT I'M CLEAR ON WHO'S MOVING INTO THE BUILDING.
UM, WE DO HAVE A FLOOR PLAN, A BIG, UM, SO ORIGINALLY WE HAD SAID DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, MARSHALL PUBLIC DEFENDER AND APTC.
AND SO I JUST, WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO SHOW YOU HOW EVERYONE WOULD FIT IN THERE.
UM, WE WERE ABLE TO GIVE THE PUBLIC DEFENDER HIS OWN ENTRANCE AND PARKING FOR HIS CLIENTELE, UM, EMPLOYEE ENTRANCES, AS WELL AS PUBLIC ENTRANCE IN PUBLIC PARKING NOW.
I UNDERSTAND THE PUBLIC DEFENDERS OF THE AND DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE WE HAVE PLANS THAT DEAL WITH THOSE DEPARTMENTS THAT WE WANT TO DEAL WITH THE FIRE MARSHALL'S OFFICE.
I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SOUTH CAMPUS IN THE COURSE.
IT ALL DEPENDS ON CONSTRUCTION WITH THE HISTORIC COURT HOUSE AND THE NEW JUSTICE CENTER AND STUFF.
SO THERE'S GOING TO BE PEOPLE IN THERE ALREADY.
AND THEN EVEN THE JP ONE IS STILL GOING TO, WE'RE GOING TO STILL BE UTILIZING THAT BUILDING THERE.
SO IN MY MIND, WHY MOVE THE FIRE MARSHALL, WHEN WE'RE STILL GONNA HAVE THE BUILDING MOVE THEM AND THEN MOVE THEM AGAIN TO THE COURTHOUSE INSTEAD OF JUST WAITING AND MAKE ONE MOVE.
YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT AND BECAUSE WE ALL PUT US TO GET THEM ALL TOGETHER, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, DO YOU KNOW, IN THE SAME ROOM, WHICH EVENTUALLY THEY WILL BE THERE ALL NEXT TO EACH OTHER, BUT WHY LOSE TIME IN PRODUCTION AND EVERYTHING ELSE TO MOVE THEM OVER THERE.
AND THEN A YEAR AND A HALF LATER, WE MOVED THEM AGAIN OR, YOU KNOW, OR I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW LONG IT'LL BE BEFORE ALL THIS CONSTRUCTION IS DONE, BUT YOU KNOW WHY I MOVED THEM TO MOVE THEM AGAIN, JUST MOVE THEM ONCE THEY TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU TALKED TO ME ONE TIME ABOUT WHEN PEOPLE COME TO YOUR OFFICE AND THEN JUST THE WELL IT'S PART OF THE ONE STOP SHOP, ALL THE PERMITTING AND ALL THAT.
WE'VE DISCUSSED IT IN THE, IN THE BEST FOR ALL THE PERMITTING TO BE UNDER ONE ROOF OR NEXT TO EACH OTHER.
SO THAT IT'S NOT ACROSS TOWN BECAUSE WE'RE SENDING CITIZENS TO TWO SEPARATE PLACES.
IF THEY NEED TO TURN IN THEIR WATERFLOW PLAN, IF THEY WANT TO TURN IN THEIR FIRE FLOW STUFF, THEY GO ACROSS TO THE SOUTH CAMPUS, DROP IT OFF TO HIM, BUT THEN WE NEED TO GET A LETTER FROM HIM OR SOME KIND OF CORRESPONDENCE BACK SAYING THAT HE'D RECEIVED AND REVIEWED IT.
SO AS PART OF THE ONE SHOP STOP SHOP, IT WOULD BE BEST FOR ALL OF US TO BE UNDER ONE ROOF.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE INTEND TO BE.
AND I AGREE WITH THAT 110%, YOU KNOW, BUT WHY MOVE NOW TO MOVE THEM AGAIN? I MAY ASK A QUESTION, IS IT GOING TO BE THAT BENEFICIAL FOR THEM FOR A YEAR? AND LET ME ASK A QUESTION ON THAT THOUGH, EVERYBODY IN THIS BUILDING, EVERYBODY IN THIS BUILDING IS GOING TO BE IN THE OLD COURTHOUSE, RIGHT? YES.
IS THAT NOT, IS THAT NOT CORRECT? SO I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK THAT'LL HAPPEN FOR, I THINK WE'LL BE RENTING THIS BUILDING FOR MORE THAN A YEAR AND A HALF.
I THINK IT WON'T BE FOR PROBABLY THREE OR FOUR YEARS BEFORE WE EVER MOVED THESE PEOPLE INTO THE MAIN COURTHOUSE.
CAUSE YOU'D BE GOING TO REMODEL THE COURTHOUSE.
YOU DON'T WANT TO MOVE UNTIL YOU REMODELED IT.
SO I THINK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ALONE
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A LONGER TIMEFRAME.UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND THIS ONE STOP SHOP WILL START RIGHT THEN.
AND SO IF WE MOVE ALL THESE PEOPLE TOGETHER AND THEN WHEN THE COURTHOUSE READY, THEY ALL MOVE AT ONCE, THEN WORK STILL IN THE ONE STOP SHOP.
IS, IS THAT KIND OF CORRECT? YEAH, I THINK IT, IT GIVES THEM, I MEAN, IF WE'RE GOING TO SPLIT THEM UP AGAIN, THEN, UM, NO, I MEAN, NOT LIKE THAT'S OUR CONCEPT, IS IT BECAUSE, UH, PROBABLY, I MEAN, THE FIRE MARSHALL CAN SPEAK TO IT, BUT PROBABLY THE VAST MAJORITY OF HIS, OF HIS DAY-TO-DAY WORK IS REALLY IN THIS CODE ENFORCEMENT ARENA.
AND, UH, IF WE'RE GOING TO START THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? WE, WE HAVE EMBRACED THAT CONCEPT THAT, UH, THE PUBLIC IS BETTER SERVED BY HAVING THESE PEOPLE.
CO-LOCATE IT? SKIED IS EXACTLY RIGHT.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE, UH, A YEAR AND A HALF FROM NOW.
IT'S GOING TO BE TWO OR THREE YEARS BEFORE ANYBODY REALLY, UH, PERMANENTLY MOVES INTO THE RENOVATED COURTHOUSE.
AND, UH, WE JUST, WE JUST ENHANCE PUBLIC SERVICE, UH, IMMEDIATELY.
AND IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S A HUGE MOVE.
IT'S NOT THAT THEY'RE MOVING GIANT EQUIPMENT OR ANYTHING.
AND, AND LASTLY, ANY SORT OF GLITCHES OR MODIFICATIONS OF POLICY OR PROCEDURE THAT MIGHT HAVE TO HAPPEN WITH THE, UM, WITH THIS ONE-STOP SHOP, IT CAN, CAN BE WORKED OUT NOW BEFORE THEY START TO MOVE INTO THE COURTHOUSE IN THREE YEARS, THE VOLUME OF FOOT TRAFFIC TO, UH, IS GONNA THE NUMBER OF TRIPS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE GOING TO MONIQUE'S OFFICE AND THEN GOING DOWN TO THE SOUTH CAMPUS AND BACK AGAIN, OR WHATEVER, JUST INCREASING, IT'S GOING TO INCREASE A LOT.
AND WILL THAT CLOSE DOWN THE, THAT ADD ON BILLING TO THE SOUTH CAMPUS? I MEAN, IF WE MOVED THE FIRE MARSHALL, WOULD THERE BE ANYBODY IN THAT BUILDING? I DON'T KNOW, PROBATION, ADULT PROBATION AND PRETRIAL, AND OTHERWISE, I KNOW FOR US, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF SPACE.
I CAN'T SPEAK FOR RANDY, BUT ONE OF THE REASONS TO GO IS SPACE.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE, WE'RE CRAMMED INTO THIS.
ANYTIME WE HAVE A MEETING WE'RE NOW COMING UP HERE AND RESERVING THIS ROOM, IT'S VERY INCONVENIENT.
AND THEN WE DO HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH THE EXISTING BUILDING THAT, YOU KNOW, MIGHT BE BETTER SERVED.
WHO'S ASKING MACONOMY A SCALE.
YOU KNOW, AS, AS, AS I LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE HERE, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
THERE'S, THERE'S THINGS THAT HAPPEN BETWEEN THESE TWO DEPARTMENTS.
I THINK WE WOULD GAIN SOME ECONOMIES OF SCALE AS WELL.
AND JUST UP FOR INSTANCE, A LARGE FLATBED SCANNER CAUSE ARE BOTH SCANNING, LARGE PLOTS AND PLANS.
AND SO IN HAVING A CONFERENCE ROOM, YOU KNOW, IT'S EQUIPPED FOR THOSE THINGS.
AND SO I DON'T HAVE TO BUY, YOU KNOW, TWO MONITORS AND TWO FLATBED SCANNERS AND TWO OF THIS AND THREE OF THAT WHEN IT COMES TO THOSE, THIS ARE THOSE CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THOSE OTHER THINGS, I THINK WE'LL PICK UP SOME ECONOMIES OF SCALE.
AND I, I KIND OF LIKED WHAT I HEARD EARLIER ABOUT KIND OF GETTING USED TO BEING IN ONE SPACE.
YOU CAN WORK THOSE, THOSE ISSUES OUT, MAKE SURE THAT WITH FIRE MARSHALL, HE HAS SOME DEDICATED SPACE THAT HE NEEDS.
SO EVIDENCE ROOMS, AND DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE WE GET ALL THAT COVERED NOW.
AND, AND TO HAVE A PLACE WHERE IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO AND GET THESE THINGS DONE, AND AS A CITIZEN, YOU BUILD THERE, YOU'VE GOT EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO HER.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO ACROSS THE STREET TO GO TO A CONFERENCE ROOM.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK AND SCAN SOMETHING, ET CETERA.
I THINK THERE'S JUST A LOT OF MERIT IN HAVING THESE SIMILAR FUNCTIONS INTO ONE RUN.
WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THAT IS IT'S FREEING UP.
THIS IS BASICALLY FREEING UP THREE COUNTY BUILDINGS WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU DO THE OVERALL PIECE.
SO WE GET OUT OF, WE GOT, UH, WE GET OUT THREE BUILDINGS AND MAKE A GOOD DECISION.
THEN ON SETTLE HOME TO YOUR POINT TO THE MARKET, THE MARKET FLUX OR CHANGE SELL DOWN.
BUT REGARDLESS, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO REPAIR.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO BE IN THERE, MAINTAINING THEM AND FIXING THEM.
AND THEN THE PIECE WITH THE FIRE, MARSHALL, I JUST BELIEVE THAT THAT JUST MAKES GOOD SENSE TO HAVE THEM IN ONE BUILDING.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MOVE ALL OF THESE PEOPLE ANYWAY, TWICE, ALL SO ALL OF THEM ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE, BUT IT GIVES US A BETTER IDEA BEFORE WE GO TO THAT SECOND MOVE, HOW WELL DO THEY WORK TOGETHER? THERE'S A SPACE NEEDS THERE, ET CETERA.
AND I'M IN A BUILDING THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE TO SPEND ANY MONEY, MAINTAINING IT OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS, BUT IT'S A LEAKS WE JUST PAY.
WE JUST PAY A FLAT FEE AND WE'RE DONE.
I DON'T EVEN HAVE THIS PLACE THAT I HAVE NOW, SEVERAL THINGS I'LL ADDRESS.
I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF THE ONE-STOP SHOP, WHERE THE PUBLIC DOESN'T HAVE TO TRAVEL ALL OVER THE COUNTY.
THE MAJORITY OF THE STUFF, UH, THAT'S DONE IN CONJUNCTION WITH MONIQUE IS REALLY JUST ME RIGHT NOW, DOING THE, THE, UH, TAKING A QUICK LOOK AT IT AT A PLAN TO SEE IF THEY'RE GOING TO NEED WATER.
AND THEN IF THEY DO, THEY CAN PRESENT A WATER PLAN.
OTHER THAN THAT, UH, THE REST OF THE WORK IN OUR DEPARTMENT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MONIQUE'S
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DEPARTMENT, WITH THE SUBDIVISIONS.IT'S ALL THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS THE LARGEST PART OF OUR, OUR DEPARTMENT, THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
SHE HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
UH, THE FACT THAT IF A SUBDIVISION IS DOING SOME PLANNING FOR WATER, THAT THEY CAN COME TO US.
BUT AGAIN, WE'RE DOING IT RIGHT NOW ELECTRONICALLY.
UH, WE'RE NOT HAVING TO HAVE PEOPLE COME OVER TO OUR FACILITY TO PRESENT ANYTHING IT'S ALL DONE ELECTRONICALLY.
I GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE DESIGN HERE AND, UM, THERE'S ACTUALLY, UH, THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE A MAT AND WHAT AM I BLIND? THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO LOCATION FOR HIM TO OFFICE HERE AT ALL FROM MY CURRENT STAFF AS I HAVE NOW, I DON'T SEE ON THIS PLAN.
I MIGHT AS MATT AND I MANAGED THE, UH, THE PART-TIMES WHEN THEY COME IN AND DO THEIR REPORTS AND TURN THEIR EVIDENCE AND LOG THE EVIDENCE AND GET THERE, GET THE REPORTS GOING.
WE CAN'T ASK THEM TO ASK CHAD OR ME, OR ACTUALLY, OR SOMEONE TO STEP AWAY FROM THEIR COMPUTER WHILE THEY DO THEIR WORK AND CREATE YOUR REPORTS.
UH, IF THEY'D COME IN TO DO PLAN REVIEWS, IT WOULD BE NO DIFFERENT THAN ELSE.
THEY USE THE CONFERENCE ROOM OR THE PLAYER REVIEW ROOM OR WHATEVER IT'S GOING TO BE TO DO THE REVIEWS.
WE CAN ACTUALLY USUALLY GET TWO PEOPLE IN THEIR OWN TWO SETS OF PLANS.
AT ONE TIME, WE ARE TRENDING TOWARDS GETTING, UH, ALL OF OUR CONTRACTORS TO SUBMIT EVERYTHING ELECTRONICALLY.
WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO IT IN A PDF FORMAT, UH, IN A DATABASE WHERE WE CAN DO IT ELECTRONICALLY.
UH, FOR A SHORT TIME, THERE WILL STILL BE A NEED FOR A PRINTED COPY.
I'M SURE, BUT, UH, I'M NOT EVEN SEEING ACCOMMODATING WHAT I CURRENTLY HAVE, BUT MA MATT AND, UH, YOU KNOW, MATT AND THE PART-TIME PEOPLE DON'T NEED AN OFFICE.
UH, I WOULD SAY THE ONLY PERSON IN YOUR DEPARTMENT THAT REALLY NEEDS AN INDIVIDUAL PRIVATE OFFICE WOULD BE YOU AND THE OTHERS CAN, UH, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DO THAT WITH PARTITIONS IN CUBICLES.
WELL, THE INSPECTOR CONFERENCE ROOM THAT'S ACTUALLY, UM, CAN BE TWO, ALMOST THREE OFFICES.
THEY WERE GIVING YOU A PRIVATE CONFERENCE ROOM THERE.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S A SEPARATE CONFERENCE ROOM DOWN BELOW, UM, THE SPACE WHERE TINA IS, UM, THERE'S A LARGE AREA THAT CAN ALSO BE SECTIONED OFF AS WELL.
AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW WHAT STAFF THAT WE HAVE, I UNDERSTAND.
SO THIS INSPECTOR CONFERENCE ROOM WOULD ACTUALLY NOT BE A CONFERENCE ROOM.
IT WOULD BE FOR MY STAFF, OR IT COULD BE EITHER, EITHER.
YEAH, WELL, I NEED TO HAVE SOME SPACE DEDICATED FOR THEM TO DO THEIR DAILY WORK.
UH, I'LL SAY THE OTHER CONFERENCE ROOM DOWN HERE, UM, THEN, BUT WITH ALL THE CABINETS, UM, THAT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, CONFERENCE ROOM SLASH PLAN REVIEW EITHER WAY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THE INTERVIEWS WHEN WE DO HAVE, UM, UH, RELOCATE THE PLANT OR SOME ARE MOVING THEM OUT OF THE WAY, BUT THAT WOULD ADDRESS MATT.
UH, JOHN, IT'S HARD TO TELL FROM THIS MAP AS FAR AS SPACE, BUT YOU SAID THAT THERE'S THERE'S TWEAKS, THAT HOK WOULD ABSOLUTELY MAKE THE CONVERSATION IS ADDITIONALLY THIS COMING BUDGET YEAR.
IF, IF WE CAN EVEN MAKE IT HAPPEN IN THIS CURRENT BUDGET YEAR, UM, I'M NEEDING ANOTHER INSPECTOR BAD, REAL BAD.
AND WE'RE ALSO NEEDING, UH, WE'RE SAYING THE NEED NOW FOR A, A FILE CLERK, UH, TINA, WHICH DEALS WITH HAVE THE ADMINISTRATIVE STUFF SHE DOES, BUT JUST THE PHONE CALL VOLUMES, UH, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, PEOPLE COMING UP TO THE WINDOW IT'S SO I'M, YOU KNOW, I'LL BE APPROACHING Y'ALL WITH, WITH TWO PEOPLE, CERTAINLY THIS NEXT BUDGET YEAR ONE BEING AN INSPECTOR AND ONE BEING A FILE CLERK.
DID THEY CONSULT ANY OF THESE DEPARTMENT HEADS BEFORE THEY DID IT RIGHT THEN APPARENTLY TALKED TO RANDY.
THEY USE THE PROGRAMMING THAT THEY HAD DONE WITH ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS, BECAUSE THEY HAVE SAT DOWN AND DONE APPROPRIATELY, WHICH WAS DONE PRIOR TO US REALIZING THE EXPONENTIAL GROWTH.
SO WHAT THEY DID IS THEY TOOK CURRENT PROGRAMMING TO ACCOMMODATE WHAT WAS CURRENTLY OUR CURRENT PERSONNEL.
AND THAT'S WHY THEY DID THE CONFERENCE ROOM IN THE LARGER FOR THE OFFICE SPACE SO THAT WE COULD MOVE PEOPLE AROUND AS SPACE BECAME, OKAY, WELL, LET ME REIN HIM.
IF I'M UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU'RE TELLING US HERE IS YOU DON'T REALLY NEED TO BE THERE.
IS THAT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING? I MEAN, YOU JUST,
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OR MAYBE YOU NEED TO BE THERE, BUT NOBODY ELSE DOES.IN MY OPINION, WE DON'T, THE LARGE MAJORITY OF OUR WORK IS STANDALONE FROM THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES SIDE.
THERE IS A CONNECTION BECAUSE WE'VE RECENTLY CHANGED THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.
AND ALL THAT INVOLVES IS THE FACT OF THE WATERS OF THE ONLY THING THAT I CAN REGULATE BY LAW IN THESE SUBDIVISIONS WOULD BE THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
YOU KNOW, THE ROADWAYS LOOKING AT A SET OF PLANS AND ALSO THE WATER SUPPLIES FOR FIRE PROTECTION.
THAT IS THE ONLY COMPONENT THAT WE HAVE IN RELATION WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
AND THAT WOULD BE ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE OF THINGS.
SHE, UH, SHE HAS NO COMPONENT, UH, TO DEAL WITH ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE OF THINGS, WHICH IS WHERE ALL OF OUR GROWTH IS UNLESS IT'S SEPTIC 5,000 GALLONS, THE LIST TCQ CHANGING IT TO 20,001 THOUGHT THAT HOK HAD PART OF THE REASON WHY HE WAS ON THAT SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND PUBLIC DEFENDER WAS ON THE REAR OF THE BUILDING AS WELL, IS THAT THE GROWTH COULD HAPPEN ONCE THE PUBLIC DEFENDER MOVES OUT, THEN THAT HALLWAY BECOMES AVAILABLE AND IT DOESN'T MOVE.
SO THEN EVERYONE MOVES DOWN TO THOSE OFFICES AND THOSE ARE INDIVIDUAL OFFICES AND THEY WOULD MAINTAIN.
AND I SEE, I SEE THE SEPARATION, UH, YOU KNOW, H OKAY, UNDERSTOOD.
AND THE QUARTER UNDERSTANDS THE, UH, BEING IN THE SAME BUILDING AND BEING IN THE SAME ROOM ARE TWO ENTIRELY DIFFERENT THINGS.
UH, SAME BILLINGS, NO ISSUE, BUT SIMILAR TO THE SHERIFF'S CID DEPARTMENT AND SO FORTH, THE LAW ENFORCEMENT, THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE ON THE DESK UP ON DISPLAY AND SO FORTH.
SO I'LL SAY THAT THEY'VE ARRANGED FOR THE SEPARATION, WITH THE KEY KEY PAD.
AND I APPRECIATE THAT, UM, THAT WOULD CREATE THE ADDITIONAL SPACE IF WE ACQUIRE THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE, UH, ON A PARKING, YOU KNOW, BEING AROUND BACK I'LL.
SO FOR US, UH, ONE OTHER ITEM, I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT WOULD GET PLANNED IN, BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE, UH, OUTDOOR EVIDENCE STORAGE.
WE HAVE THE, THE GASOLINE CONTAINERS THAT ARE OPEN, MAY STILL HAVE BANKER'S LIQUIDS.
YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S EVIDENCE THAT WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN.
WE CAN'T BRING THOSE TYPES OF ITEMS INTO A BUILDING.
SO WE MAINTAIN THOSE IN UNLOCKED, AMBIENT AIR CAGE, YOU KNOW, VENTILATION OUTSIDE AND, UH, IN A WAY FOR MANY PARKING AREAS FOR IGNITION SOURCES, YOU KNOW, WE, I DON'T FORESEE AN ISSUE OF SOMETHING OFF GASSING, BUT SOME OF THESE CONTAINERS, YOU KNOW, THAT WE, THAT WE BRING IN, SOMETIMES WE'VE HAD TO GET STRUCTURED ORDERS PREMATURELY, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT SAFE.
SOMETHING INSIDE IS VIOLATING THE CONTAINER.
WE CAN, IT'S RARE, BUT IT DOES HAPPEN.
SO WE WOULD NEED TO MAINTAIN THAT OUTDOOR STORAGE IN A, IN AN AREA, NOT RIGHT NEXT TO PARKING VEHICLES, NOT WHERE THE PUBLIC WALKS IN AND OUT.
WHAT'D YOU SAY? UM, I THINK PART OF THE PROGRAMMING WITH THAT WAS THAT IT WAS ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE TO BE OFFSET BECAUSE WHEN YOU MOVE TO THE COURTHOUSE, THAT WILL, YOU DON'T HAVE THAT ISSUE WHEN YOU MOVED TO THE COURTHOUSE, RIGHT.
IT'D BE A LITTLE BIT OF AN INCONVENIENCE.
IT'S JUST AS FAR AS THOSE LOGGING AND STORING IT, BUT NO, IT CAN BE DONE.
I MEAN, THAT'S HOW I, YOU KNOW, EVERY POLICE AGENCY THAT HAS BONDS COMPONENTS OR ANYTHING ELSE, I ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE OUTSIDE STORES FOR MAGAZINE.
UH, IS THERE, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM, IS THERE JUST A RELUCTANCE TO GET OUT OF THAT SHELF, CAMPUS BUILDING? I MEAN, THAT BUILDING IS AT END OF LIFE AND IT, AND, UH, I THOUGHT WE'D MADE THE DECISION THAT WE WERE MOVING AGAIN.
I MEAN, WELL, IT DOES HAVE SOMETHING TO MOVE SOMEBODY TWICE DOES, TO ME, IT'S JUST LIKE, IF YOU HAD ME MOVE DOWN THERE NOW TO SOMEPLACE ELSE TEMPORARILY TO GO TO THE COURTHOUSE, I DON'T WANT TO MOVE TWICE.
WHENEVER WE GET EVERYTHING DONE AND WE DECIDE WE WANT TO SELL THAT OR DEMOLISH IT OR WHATEVER WE DECIDE TO DO, BUT THAT'S NOT HAPPENING NOW.
NO, WHEN THAT'S HAPPENING, MIKE, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MARKET'S GOING TO SHOW.
WE DON'T KNOW IF AN OPPORTUNITY WILL COME UP FOR THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY OR ANY OF THOSE PRIESTS PROPERTIES TO BE ABLE TO, YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH YOUR THIN.
IF SOMEONE CAME IN, OFFERED US A JILLION DOLLARS IN THIS, THIS, THIS WON'T BE AVAILABLE, THEN YOU STILL GOT TO MOVE ME INTO JP AND THAT'LL PROBATION AND FACILITIES.
IT'S NOT LIKE WHEN RANDY LEAVES THAT BUILDING'S VACATED AND WE CAN SELL IT.
YOU WANT, BUT THE VAST MAJORITY OF WHAT THE FARM MARSHALL'S OFFICE HANDLES NOW IS CODE ENFORCEMENT.
THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY SUBDIVISION PLANNING, BUT IT'S CODE ENFORCEMENT, COMMERCIAL BILLING INSPECTION.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE, AND THEN THE BENEFIT OF ECONOMIES OF SCALE.
THAT'S THE BENEFIT OF, OF, UH,
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OF HAVING THESE KINDS OF DEPARTMENTS BEGIN THEIR INTERRELATIONSHIP NOW, AND NOT TRYING TO IT THREE YEARS FROM NOW, WHEN, WHEN WE FINALLY DO MOVE INTO THIS, THE COURTHOUSE, THE CONCEPT OF THE ONES STOP SHOP WAS PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST THINGS THAT COUNTY'S EVER DONE.AND I DEFINITELY, I UNDERSTAND THIS JUST FILLS THAT.
SO YEAH, IT COULD BE SOMEONE COMING IN, WALKING IN HER DOOR.
I KNOW THAT CHANGES ARE THE PRODUCT, BUT WE'RE CHANGING.
I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE MOVING THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE HAS GOT TO MOVE.
ADULT PROBATION HAS GOT TO MOVE PRECINCT.
ONE COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE HAS GOT TO MOVE.
SO DOES A JP SOONER OR LATER, SO WE'RE NOT RELUCTANT ON THE MOVE AT ALL.
WE HAVE WHAT WE NEED, WHERE WE'RE AT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT BUILDING IS NEARING END OF LIFE.
ALL I ASKED IS THAT WHEN, WHEN WE DO MOVE, UH, THE DECOR PROVIDE US WITH WHAT WE NEED TO DO OUR BUSINESS, AND THAT WOULD BE THE PLACE TO PUT OUR STAFF, THE PLACE TO DO A PROPER PLAN REVIEW.
UH, I'VE GOT A BIG NOW, RANDY, AND IF IT'S, UH, IF SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE ADJUSTED OR WHATEVER, I MEAN, THIS IS LINES ON A PAGE.
WOULD I HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO OVER AND LOOK AT THESE OFFICES? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO PROBLEM AT ALL WITH PUTTING TWO OR THREE DEPUTIES IN THE SAME OFFICE.
THAT'S, THAT'S A COMMON CONCEPT.
IT'S ACTUALLY SOMETIMES EASIER FOR ME TO COMMUNICATE.
BECAUSE WE'LL TAKE THE GUYS SPEND AT LEAST HALF OF THEIR TIME OUT OF THE OFFICE, RIGHT? YES, SIR.
ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY QUESTIONS? MAKE SURE I HAVE ENOUGH ROOM FOR IT.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ANYBODY ABOUT THIS IDEA? I WOULD JUST SUGGEST IT'D BE FAIR TO ALLOW THE DEPARTMENT HAS TAKEN A LOOK AT THIS OTHER, ACTUALLY PUT THEIR EYES ON IT AND SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THEY COULD SEE UP FRONT THAT NEEDS TO BE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IS ON PAPER RIGHT NOW.
WELL, AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THIS WASN'T SHARED, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT Y'ALL WERE CLEAR ON WHAT DEPARTMENTS WERE MOVING.
SHE SHOWS A WAY TO FIND THE DEPARTMENTS IN THERE.
AND I, WASN'T GOING TO BE THE ONE TO SHARE THAT WITH ANYONE.
SO THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE KNEW WHAT DEPARTMENTS WERE GOING OVER THERE, YOU KNOW, ONCE A YEAR OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, BUT APARTMENTS ARE GOING TO GROW AT A MINIMUM.
IF YOU MOVE NOW, YOU'LL MOVE AGAIN IN THREE YEARS.
SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE CONSTANTLY MOVING.
UM, NO, DEFINITELY THIS BE ONE MOVE FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS.
UM, ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS? NO, JUST, I WOULD LIKE TO, WHATEVER DEPARTMENTS Y'ALL DO DECIDE ARE MOVING, I WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE THEM TO THE BUILDING AND WALK THEM THROUGH KIND OF, YEAH.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE TWO THINGS THAT MIGHT CALL FOR ACTION.
ONE OF THEM WOULD BE, UH, TO TAKE, UH, TO HAVE A MOTION AND A ON WHETHER OR NOT TO TELL HOK TO MOVE FORWARD WITH LOOKING AT THE, THE PLAN TO EXPAND, TO DO THE EXPANSION ON THE JUSTICE CENTER ON THE NORTH SIDE, AS OPPOSED TO BUILDING A SEPARATE BUILDING IS OKAY.
IS THAT ONE OF THE 23? THIS ON ITEM 23.
YOU CAN'T BE ON 22 AND IT'LL BE ON 23, RIGHT? YEAH, BECAUSE WE'RE JUST ITEM 23 IS A WRAP UP
[23. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider taking any action on Facilities Master Plan Design Priorities & Lease Space Department Assignments.]
22.SO THAT'S ONE ITEM AND THE OTHER ITEM WOULD BE WHETHER OR NOT TO MAKE THE DECISION IS TO, TO MOVE THESE DEPARTMENTS INTO THIS BUILDING AND ALSO TO APPROVE THE DESIGN OF THE COURTHOUSE, RENOVATION APPROVED THE, UH, APPROVE HOK TO LOOK AT THAT.
SO THAT WOULD BE THREE SEPARATE MOTIONS.
AM I RIGHT EVERYBODY? IS THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? OKAY.
UH, SO ITEM ONE, LET'S ADDRESS THE INSTRUCTING HOK TO STUDY THE EXPANSION OF THE JUSTICE CENTER ON THE NORTH SIDE IN LIEU OF BUILDING ANOTHER BUILDING.
UH, THAT WOULD BE OUR, THAT WOULD PROVIDE THE SPACE THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE SECOND BUILDING.
SO SOMEBODY WANT TO GIVE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT, UM, MAKE A MOTION TO THAT BANK.
I'M JUST GOING TO RESTATE IT, THEIR SCHEME.
YOU HAVE THAT MOTION TO INSTRUCT HOK TO TAKE ACTION, TO PLAN OR GIVE US PLANS AND, AND, UH, REGARDING EXPANDING THAT JUSTICE.
AND THEN COST OF IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE SOMETHING TO JUDGE BY.
IS THERE A SECOND, A SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER, K A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.
AND KATE'S THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE, THOSE POSTS.
NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES ITEM TWO WOULD BE TO INSTRUCT
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H O K A.AND I WOULD SAY TO REVIEW THE PREVIOUS PLANNING, THE PREVIOUS PROGRAMMING AND RELATED COST TO RENOVATING THE EXISTING COURTHOUSE.
UM, AND THAT WOULD COME BACK TO US WITH, WITH THEIR PROPOSAL.
DO WE NEED TO SPECIFY THE MONEY'S COMING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND? DOES IT NEED TO BE STATED? AND YOU CAN.
CAN YOU STATE THAT IN THE MOTION THAT THAT'S THIS, THIS, THIS, UH, MONEY, THIS PROJECT WOULD COME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.
YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT IN THE FORM OF MOTION AND MOTION? OKAY.
WE HAVE THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER HUNT.
COMMISSIONER BARBARA DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED NO MOTION CARRIES.
AND THEN THE THIRD ITEM WOULD BE TO, I'M NOT GOING TO READ OFF THE DEPARTMENTS.
I DON'T THINK I NEED TO, BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS ON THE RECORD, UH, WOULD BE LOOKING FOR A MOTION, UH, TO MOVE THE DEPARTMENT'S HERE INTO THE RENTAL SPACE.
WHAT'S THE ADDRESS ON THERE? 100 NORTH HOUSTON, 100 NORTH HOUSTON TO MOVE INTO THAT RENTAL SPACE IN 100 NORTH HOUSTON, UH, WOULD SOMEBODY CARE TO MAKE THAT MOTION? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.
WE HAVE THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER CAGE.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER WAS THAT YOU HAVE THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE, THOSE OPPOSED NO MOTION CARRIES.
SO WE KILLED OFF THOSE THREE THINGS.
UH, I WANT TO TAKE A SHORT BREAK BEFORE WE GO INTO THE EVERGREEN STUDY.
YEAH, WE READY? READY? THREE MINUTES HERE.
[24. Jerry Dean; Discuss Evergreen Wage Study.]
JERRY BEING AND WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING THE EVERGREEN WAGE AND CLASSIFICATION STUDY.SO WHAT I, WHAT I, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO TODAY, IF I COULD, IT'S JUST PROVIDE SOME KIND OF AN, A, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THE DATA THAT'S BEHIND THIS STUDY.
SO, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT EVERGREEN DID WAS WENT OUT TO COUNTIES AND CITIES, ET CETERA, THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE STATE AND PULL DATA ON HOW DOES THEIR STRUCTURE LOOK FIRST FROM A FINANCIAL STRUCTURE? SO HOW TO PAY SKILLS, LOOK THEN HOW DID JOB TITLES LOOK AND HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU GET THESE COMMON TITLES AND COMMON PAY INTO SOME FORM OF A PROCESS THAT YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH? SO WHAT THEY DID WAS THEY, THEY ALL JUST GO TO THE, THE ACTUAL FILE OF THE STUDY ITSELF.
IT SHOWS KIND OF THE ROLL-UP OF THE DATA.
AND SO THIS IS A MULTI-TIERED TABS THAT KIND OF GO THROUGH EVERYTHING THAT'S OUT THERE.
SO THE FIRST PIECE OF IT WAS KIND OF A PAY PLAN AND WHAT THE PAY PLAN DOES.
I'M NOT GOING TO GET CAUGHT UP IN WHO'S WHERE, AND WHAT IS GRADING PEOPLE? SO A GREAT CLASSIFICATIONS FROM ONE OH ONE TO ONE 25.
AND WITHIN EACH OF THOSE PAY SCALES ARE OUR GRADES.
IT HAS A MINIMUM, A MIDPOINT AND A MAXIMUM.
AND SO WHAT IT'S SAYING IS, YOU KNOW, HERE'S THE MINIMUM YOU SHOULD PAY BASED UPON THAT, THE COLLECTED DATA, HERE'S THE MIDPOINT OF THOSE JOBS BASED UPON THE COLLECTED DATA.
AND HERE'S THE MAXIMUMS. AND IT'S KIND OF SHOWING WHAT THAT ALSO LOOKS LIKE IN AN HOURLY PERSPECTIVE.
CAUSE WE HAVE SOME EMPLOYEES THAT ARE TECHNICALLY PAID BY THE HOUR.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THAT TAB DOES.
AND THEN THIS TAB GOES IN AND TAKES ALL THE TITLES OF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING AND PUTS THEM INTO, UH, SOME COMMON TITLES AND ASSOCIATES THAT PARTICULAR GRADE WITH THEM.
SO YOU SERVE YOUTH WORKER AT ONE OH ONE ALL THE WAY UP TO YOUR ADMINISTRATIVE FOLKS, ALL THE WAY THROUGH YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS, ET CETERA, ALL THE WAY TO YOU GET UP TO THE TOP OF YOUR LIST.
AND THEN THIS TAB IS THIS, THIS THE ONE I WANTED TO SPEND SOME TIME ON KIND OF, THIS IS THE APPROACH RECOMMENDED APPROACH TO GET YOU FROM WHERE YOU ARE TO POTENTIALLY WHERE YOU WANT TO BE.
THE FIRST TIER IS SAYING, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST A CALCULATION TO GET EVERYBODY TO THE MINIMUM.
SO THAT'S WHAT THAT, THAT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST MOVING EVERYBODY TO THE MINIMUM SALARIES AND, UH, AND WHAT THAT TOTAL DOLLAR LOOKS LIKE.
AND THEY HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS ON, ON HOW TO GET THERE.
I'LL SCROLL DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE.
TIER THREE IS SAYING, YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE ONE TO THREE, THREE TO FIVE, OR THEN OVER 10 KIND OF, KIND OF TIERED.
AND HOW DO YOU FIT WITHIN THOSE STRUCTURES? AND THAT'S ONE OF THOSE LAST COUPLE OF TABS LOOK LIKE A PRETTY EXTENSIVE ALGORITHM OF THINGS IT'S TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
WHERE IS YOUR PAY? HOW LONG YOU'RE IN THE JOB AND HOW DO YOU COMPARE TO THAT MID POINT? SO THAT'S WHAT THAT MATH IS, IS DOING ON THOSE BACK PAGES.
AND THEN THE OTHER TIER IS A, IS A LITTLE SIMPLER TO YOUR ONE TO 10 YEARS, 10
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YEARS OR MORE SO BASED UPON WHERE YOU ARE IN THAT RANGE AS TO HOW YOU MOVE TOWARDS THAT MIDPOINT.SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT ALL OF THAT IS.
THIS ONE IS A, IS A, QUITE A BIT OF AN EYE CHART.
I'M NOT GOING TO SPEND MUCH TIME ON IT, BUT IT'S, IT'S EVERY EMPLOYEE.
SO THIS IS EVERYBODY AND IT'S SHOWING ALL THE DIFFERENT WAYS IT'S COLOR CODED.
SO IF YOU SEE THE GREEN THAT'S TIER THREE, THE PURPLE IS THAT TIER TWO.
AND IT SHOWING BASED UPON THAT ALGORITHM OF THAT MATH, WHERE YOU ARE IN LENGTH OF SERVICE, WHAT IS YOUR PAY NOW? AND HOW DOES THAT COMPARE TO THE MID POINT? AND IT'S, IT'S GIVING THAT RATIO.
AND THEN IT'S GIVING A RECOMMENDATION ON HOW TO MOVE TO GET YOU THERE.
AS YOU GET OUT TO THE GREEN, HERE'S WHAT IT WOULD TAKE IN DOLLARS AS YOU MOVE, AS YOU MOVE THROUGH ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT THINGS.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS THE TABS THAT'S DOING THE MATH ON THE THREE TIER.
THIS IS A TAB THAT'S DOING THE MATH ON THE TWO TIER.
I'M NOT GOING TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME DIGGING INTO THESE ALGORITHMS, BUT THAT'S, HIGH-LEVEL WHAT IT'S DOING.
SO THE, THE, UH, THE QUESTION FOR THE COURT IS A COUPLE OF THINGS.
SO I'VE, I'VE DUG THROUGH THE DATA.
AND THAT ESTIMATE FOR THAT TIER TWO APPROACH THAT WE TALKED ABOUT TO GET THAT INITIAL MOVE WAS ABOUT 437, $430,000.
AND WHAT'S THAT'S DOING IS BASED UPON THAT MATH IT'S TAKEN THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE EITHER NOT AT THE MINIMUM OR THEY'RE, THEY'RE FURTHER AWAY FROM THE MID POINT, BASED UPON THEIR YEARS OF SERVICE, IT'S MOVING EVERYBODY TO A, TO A, KIND OF AN EQUAL PLAYING FIELD BASED UPON YOUR YEARS OF SERVICE.
THIS IS WHERE YOU SHOULD BE IN THIS RANGE.
THAT MATH IS ABOUT $430,000, JUST, JUST RAW SALARIES, ONE STEP.
HOWEVER, BUT YEAH, YOU, YOU, YOU PLUG IN THAT $400,000 INTO THE BUDGET AND APPLIED TO THESE PEOPLE.
AND THEN EVERYBODY IS AT THE MINIMUM OR AT THEIR MIDPOINT BASED UPON THEIR YEARS OF SERVICE.
AND SO IN THAT MATH, IN THAT MATH, AS I DUG THROUGH IT, THERE WERE THREE POSITIONS THAT THESE, THESE NECESSARILY APPLY IT.
I KNOW OUR DA IS HERE, BUT THE DA AND THE TWO DISTRICT JUDGES ARE BOTH IN THERE.
AND WHATEVER GREEN DIDN'T REALIZE IS THAT THEY'RE STATE FUNDED.
SO THE STATE PICKS UP THEIR BIGGEST GAP, RIGHT? THEIR BIGGEST GAP IS TO WHAT WE, WHAT WE WOULD SHOW AS COUNTY.
CAUSE IT'S JUST SHOWING THAT WE PAID THE DA HER SALARY, BUT THEY DIDN'T REALIZE THAT SHE GETS A BULK OF HER SALARY FROM THE STATE WAY BELOW HER TO GET HER TO THE GOOD HER, TO THE MINIMUM WAS TO BRING HER TO THE MINIMUM WAS $70,000.
HERE'S THE DIFFERENCE? JUST SO YOU YOU'LL KNOW, THE JUDGES BY STATUTE HAVE TO MAKE WHAT THEY MAKE THE DA DOES NOT.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ME TODAY, BUT THAT'S, BUT THAT THE TWO DISTRICT JUDGES AND THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY ARE IN THAT $427,000.
SO THAT'S ABOUT $180,000 THAT WOULD COME OUT OF THAT NUMBER.
SO FOUR 20 MINUS ONE 80 IS YOUR BASE.
SO IF YOU'RE
THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S, WHAT I THOUGHT I WOULD DO IS GET WITH BRITTANY AND SPEND A LITTLE, WE'VE HAD A FEW CHANGES IN POSITIONS, NOT MUCH, BUT THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE OF CHANGES IN THE POSITIONS THAT WE WOULD JUST ADD IN THERE, BUT I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU JUST A SHEET THAT SAYS, HERE'S THE MATH HERE ARE THE NAMES.
DO YOU WANT TO MAKE THIS DECISION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS OR NOT? OR DO YOU WANT TO ADJUST IT WHEN YOU COULD DO? YOU COULD DO.
I MEAN, YOU CAN DO 60% OF THAT.
BUT OVERARCHING, WHAT IT'S SAYING IS WE'RE ABOUT, WE'RE ABOUT $350,000 OFF THE MID RANGE AS A, AS A COUNTY, AS A COUNTY.
THAT YOU'RE, THAT YOU'RE ABOUT $350,000.
WHAT THIS MATH WOULD TELL YOU IS, IS THAT MARKET VALUE OF THE MID RANGE OF THOSE POSITIONS.
I DO LIKE THE WAY IT CLEANS UP THE, THE, UH, I MEAN, KAREN WOULD CALL IT A CHART OF ACCOUNTS, RIGHT? SO HOW IT CLEANS UP THE ACCOUNT.
SO WE HAVE CLERK CLERK TO SUPERVISOR, SO YOU LOSE THESE 75 DIFFERENT TITLES, AND MAYBE WE CAN GET IT DOWN TO 40 OR 30 TITLES.
SO FROM AN HR PERSPECTIVE, IT REALLY CLEAN, SET UP.
I LOCKED THE ONE OH ONE TO ONE 24, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S PRETTY EASY TO, TO UNDERSTAND PAY GRADES ASSOCIATED WITH, WITH SCALE.
SO YOU HAVE A NUMBER ASSOCIATED WITH A SCALE OF WHERE IT IS IN THE RANGE.
AND AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL IMPACTED BODIES, THIS ISN'T SHOWING ANY BIAS.
THIS IS JUST SIMPLY SAYING THAT TITLE BASED UPON EXPECTED, GOOD PERFORMANCE.
THEY'RE NOT TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION.
WHETHER SOMEONE'S A LOW PERFORMER OR HIGH PERFORMANCE IS EXPECTED, GOOD PERFORMANCE AND THEIR LENGTH OF SERVICE IN THAT JOB.
THIS IS THAT COMPETITIVE WAGE AT THE MID POINT.
UH, WELL, WAS IT MORE THAN TWO MINUTES? WELL, THAT WAS MY FIVE MINUTE SPEECH, BUT IT WAS GOOD INFORMATIVE THINGS.
SO, SO AGAIN, IN YOUR NEXT THOUGHT, I WONDER IF YOU WANT TO TAKE ANY ACTION.
YOU KNOW, THE ONLY ACTION I CAN SEE IS TO, IS TO COME
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BACK TO THE COURT WITH A MORE DETAILED, I DON'T BELIEVE EVERGREEN HAS ANY MORE WORK TO DO AT THIS POINT.I THINK THEY'VE DONE EVERYTHING WE'VE ASKED THEM TO DO.
BRITTANY, AS FAR AS FAR AS I KNOW THEY'VE DONE EVERYTHING WE'VE ASKED THEM TO DO.
UM, I THINK YOU ALL HAVE THIS SHEET, IF YOU WANT ANY MORE DETAIL OR ONE-ON-ONE OR WHATEVER I CAN DO TO THE DIVE THROUGH IT, THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS CLEAN IT UP AND MAKE SURE THERE ARE NO MISTAKES.
I DIDN'T SEE ANY, EXCEPT FOR THOSE THREE.
AND THEN WHAT WOULD BE YOUR RECOMMENDATION? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT BRINGING IT BACK TO US WITH JUST LIKE A SPREADSHEET, SHOWING EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHAT THEIR WAGES NOW, WHAT THIS PROPOSAL IS FOR THEIR WAGE TO BE? YES.
I MEAN, I'LL BE, I'LL BE FRANK.
I DON'T, I PERSONALLY DON'T REALLY WANT TO SEE ALL THE INDIVIDUALS SALARIES AND STUFF.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, WE HAVE THE DATA THAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET YOUR BREATH AND MIDPOINT.
AND THEN WHEN WE GET OUR NUMBERS IN A PROJECTED BUDGET, NUMBERS AND STUFF, THEN WE CAN DECIDE, LIKE YOU SAID, IF WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO MEET 65, 75 OR A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE MIDPOINT, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN AFFORD UNTIL WE GET OUR VALUE WISE.
YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE THE NAMES ON THIS.
THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE THE NAMES.
SO JUST USE LIKE THE LAST THREE DIGITS OF THEIR EMPLOYEE NUMBER OR WHATEVER.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST CAUSE SOMEBODY WE'RE GOING TO DEAL WITH CLARKS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
BUT I DON'T CARE ABOUT AN INDIVIDUAL.
I'M JUST TRYING TO, I JUST WANT IT TO BE FAIR ACROSS SUPPORT FOR EVERYONE.
I DON'T THINK IT MEANS IT'S WAY.
HE SAYS HE DOES CARE ABOUT THE INDIVIDUALS.
HE JUST DOESN'T CARE ABOUT NO ONE, NO ONE.
I'M TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF HIM HERE.
ONLY WHEN THEY FIGURED THIS, THEY DIDN'T FIGURE THE LONGEVITY AND WHETHER THE WORDS THEY WERE USING, THEY TOOK NO, THAT LONGEVITY IS NOT PART OF THE EQUATION BECAUSE THEY KEEP USING THE TIME FOR THE MIDPOINT.
SO HOW IS THAT GOING TO ADJUST IT? WASN'T THE WAY IT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME IS ALL FRINGE BENEFITS ARE NOT PART OF THE EQUATION.
SO LONGEVITY APPLIES REGARDLESS OF YOUR BASE.
AND SO THEY WENT WITH BASE SALARIES BECAUSE LONGEVITY IS A FRINGE BENEFIT.
AND SO IF YOU'RE AT FIVE YEARS OR 10 YEARS OR 15 YEARS, YOUR LONGEVITY IS GOING TO COME TO PLAY BASED UPON YOUR BASE.
ANYWAY, THIS WAS JUST BASED SALARY, BUT AM I MISSING SOMETHING HERE? AM I MISSING THE POINT THAT YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT UNDERSTANDING IT.
AND THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, OKAY, YOUR COUNTY AUDITOR HAS BEEN THERE NINE AND A HALF YEARS.
SO SHE FOLLOWS IN THE MID RANGE.
SHE SHOULD BE MAKING THIS MUCH.
AND THAT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THE PATIENT THANK YOUR LONGEVITY.
AND HE KEEPS BRINGING UP THE FACT THAT THE MID RANGE YOU'RE GETTING LONGEVITY INVOLVED IN IT.
SHOULDN'T BE, IT'S JUST BASE PACE OR YES, THAT'S A FRINGE BENEFIT.
MY SUGGESTION, FRINGE BENEFITS AT ALL.
IT DOESN'T TAKE ANY, ANY FRINGE BENEFITS.
THE FACT THAT THE INSURANCE HAD MET HER OR THE FAMILY, THAT'S WHY WE DO NEED TO SEE THE EMPLOYEE NAMES WHEN WE, SO I MEAN, TYPICALLY WHAT I'M SAYING IS IT'S JUST BASED ON CALORIES OR ARE WE MISSING SOMETHING IN THE EQUATION EITHER IF YOU'RE GOING TO APPLY AN APPLE TO APPLE, THESE OTHER PEOPLE THAT THEY APPLIED TO SALARIES DO, THEY MIGHT HAVE NOT GOT THE SAME BENEFITS.
SO IF THEY DON'T RECEIVE THE SAME BENEFITS, THEN THEY'RE NOT RECEIVING THE SAME PAY.
THEY DID A SALARY BENEFIT COMPARISON IN PART OF THEIR MATH.
AND SO THIS WAS THE BENEFITS RESULTS.
UM, WELL, LET'S GET THE QUESTION, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU SAID THAT THEY DIDN'T, I'M LOOKING AT IT, I'M LOOKING AT THE TABS.
AND SO YOU GOT, YOU GOT, YOU GOT INSURANCE, DISABILITY, LIFE INSURANCE, UH, TUITION, REIMBURSEMENT, RETIREMENT, HOLIDAY PAY, LEAVE POLICIES, UH, WHETHER THEY TAKE IT IN CONSIDERATION OF THE PAYER AND THEY JUST NOT.
LONGEVITY, LONGEVITY IS NOT PART OF THAT.
LONGEVITY IS CUT OUT OF THE FRINGE BENEFIT.
SO IS THERE SOME POINT, DOES THAT MAKE US OVER THE HUMP? THIS ONE, YOU CAN JUST SEE WHAT THE TABS, WHAT I'M SAYING.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE THE SAME BECAUSE THEY DON'T GET THAT EXTRA.
I'M SAYING, I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE DON'T, THERE ISN'T ANY MONEY.
SO ARE WE CLOSER TO THE REAL REALITY OF THE MINIMUM THAN WE THINK WE ARE ON? CAUSE YOU KEPT BRINGING UP THE LENGTH OF SERVICE.
THAT'S HOW, THAT'S HOW THIS IS.
YOU HAVE ANY, WHEN, WHEN THE COUNTY INACTIVE, THAT, THAT WAS PART OF MAKING THE PEOPLE THAT BEEN HERE.
WELL, THAT GAVE THEM MORE MONEY FOR ME.
SO BRITTANY, DO YOU KNOW IF THEY USED PEOPLE'S LONGEVITY SALARY AS PART OF WHERE THEY ARE NOW OR NOT? SO AS WE, SO TO YOUR POINT, IF SOMEONE HAS, LET'S JUST CALL IT $5,000.
IF SOMEONE HAS $5,000 AND LONGEVITY, LET'S, YOU KNOW, BALANCES SCALE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO I'LL ADD, IF IT COMES UP TO BUDGET NEEDS, THEN WE CAN UNDERSTAND IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
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AND IF YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING, THEN I MIGHT MY SUGGESTION HERE.EVERY BUDGET YEAR I DO YOUR SALARY SPREADSHEET.
IT'S GOT EVERY DEPARTMENT IN LINE.
WHAT THAT PERSON'S TITLE IS THEIR YEARS OF SERVICE.
IF THEY GET PROFICIENCY, IF THEY GET THIS, THEY GET LONGEVITY, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL PUBLIC RECORD.
WELL, I'M JUST SAYING I CAN DO IT TO HELP JERRY GET THAT PART.
AND THEN WE CAN SHOW WHAT THE, THEIR YEAR OF SERVICE SHOULD BE.
IF THEY'VE BEEN THERE 10 YEARS, THEY GET IN THE MEDIUM AND WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST YOU AT THE BOTTOM OF THE TOTAL.
SO LONGEVITY IN A DIFFERENT WAY, RATHER THAN BEING APPLIED INDIVIDUALLY IS THERE IS A LONGEVITY COMPONENT TO, TO THIS STUDY BECAUSE IT DOES AFFECT PAY.
BUT IF YOU'VE BEEN HERE LESS THAN 10 YEARS, YOU'VE BEEN HERE MORE THAN 10 YEARS.
I THINK LONGEVITY IS A FIVE-YEAR YOU GET 3% THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
SO ONE THING, WELL, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S POPULAR OR NOT, ONE THING WE COULD CONSIDER IS ADJUSTING HOW THE COUNTY, UH, HANDLES LONGEVITY PAY.
YOU COULD, WELL, I'M JUST SAYING IF THE EVERGREEN PUTS IT IN THERE, RIGHT? I AGREE.
THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE NOT MINIMUM, REALLY NOT MINIMUM RANGE.
AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE IT SCRUTINIZED INDIVIDUAL INDIVIDUALLY INTO THE LANE, YOU KNOW, BY NAMES INDIVIDUALLY.
BECAUSE I MEAN, TH THAT, THAT MAY VERY WELL BE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S THREE PEOPLE IN A DEPARTMENT THAT HAVE THE EXACT SAME FUNCTION, ONE OF THEM MIGHT ALREADY BE AT THE MID RANGE BECAUSE OF LONGEVITY WHEN THE OTHERS ARE NOT.
I THINK THAT, I THINK I I'M TRACKING WITH YOU.
WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL TAKE, AND I'LL ADD A COLUMN TO THAT SHEET AND I'LL ADD THEIR LONGEVITY PAY NEXT TO ALL THOSE PEOPLE.
AND THAT I CAN JUST USE THE FORMULA THAT THEY HAVE THERE TO LET IT DO THE MATH.
DON'T TELL ME IF THERE'S A, STILL A CAP OR NOT.
IT KIND OF PUTS IT WHERE IT IS.
WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT WE WON'T GIVE THEM THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY AS THE APARTMENT.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO DEDUCT FROM AN OLDER EMPLOYEE.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT.
SO WE KNOW IF THE STUDY IS MORE ON TRACK THAN WHAT WE THOUGHT IT WAS, I HEAR YOU.
IT IS POSSIBLE THAT LONGEVITY IS PICKING UP SOMETHING THAT IS POSSIBLE, RIGHT? SO I'LL FIGURE THAT MATH AND PUT IT UP.
I'LL ANALYZE THAT MATH TO SEE WHAT LONGEVITY IS DOING.
BUT, BUT WE MAY WANT TO CONSIDER MAKING SOME OVERARCHING POLICY DECISION ABOUT LONGEVITY, RIGHT AFTER WE GET THIS, AFTER WE MAKE THIS DECISION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE MEDIAN POINT, THEN MAYBE LONGEVITY PAY NEEDS TO BE, YOU KNOW, RE RE-EXAMINED, UH, SO THAT IT'S SERVING A FORM AND NOT INDIVIDUALLY APPLIED.
THAT'S WHY THEY LEFT IT OUT IS BECAUSE THERE WAS JUST SUCH, THERE WAS THIS SUCH VARIETY OUT THERE.
THEY SAID, LET'S JUST GO WITH A BASE SALARY.
THIS IS WHAT A BASE LOOKS LIKE.
AND Y'ALL TAKE YOUR LONGEVITY AND KEEP, KEEP IT ACCURATE.
AND THEY ASKED WHAT MY PEOPLE SPACE WAS.
THEY DID NOT LOOK AT THE OTHER STUFF.
SO WE GOT A LITTLE MORE WORK TO DO.
I MEAN, WE JUST NEED TO KNOW ALL THE VARIABLES IN THE, ALL RIGHT.
I JUST ASKED WHEN Y'ALL DO THE BUDGET, THIS TIME THAT Y'ALL APPROVED FOR 12 MONTHS WITH THE SALARY INCREASES AND WE DON'T DO YOU, I THINK WE LEARNED OUR LESSON THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S A NIGHTMARE, NOT JUST FOR OUR DEPARTMENT THAT FOR HR TO SET IT UP, BUT ALSO IT WAS ALSO WAS CONFUSING TO OUR EMPLOYEES OFFICER.
WELL, WE WON'T, WE WON'T BE IN THAT CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE WE WERE LAST TIME AGAIN, WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE MONEY.
I MEAN, WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE MONEY, YOU DON'T HAVE MONEY SOMETIMES.
WELL, UM, WE HAVE AN ITEM TO DISCUSS THAT WAS DISCUSSED THE EVERGREEN WAGE STUDY.
AND I THINK WHAT I HEARD OUR NEXT ITEM IS DISCUSSED, CONSIDERED TAKING ANY ACTION ON EVERGREEN STUDY.
AND I THINK THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR HR DEPARTMENT TO DO A LITTLE MORE, ADD SOME INFORMATION, REFINE IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
WELL, WE'LL HAVE TO, WE'LL HAVE TO GET, THAT'LL BE FIGURED IN WITH THE BUDGET, RIGHT? MAYBE IT'S NOT SOMETHING.
CAUSE WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE OUR NUMBERS ARE FOR THE BUDGET.
[25. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider taking any action on Evergreen Wage Study.]
SO, UH, ITEM 25 IS DISCUSSED, CONSIDERED TAKING ANY ACTION ON AN EVERGREEN WAGE STUDY.AND IF I DON'T HEAR A MOTION ON ITEM 25, THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 26
[26. Adjourn Regular Meeting]
AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION[01:45:01]
TO ADJOURN.THE MEETING, MR. PHILLIPS MAKES A MOTION AND YOU GET THIS LAR COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS MAKES A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.
ALSO COMMISSIONER FARBER SECONDS.
ANY DISCUSSION THOSE IN FACT, NOT FROM YOU ANY DISCUSSION FROM THESE GUYS, WE DO APPRECIATE OR MAY BE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE, AYE, MOTION CARRIES.
WAS THAT CLEAR ENOUGH? OR HAVE A GOOD DAY.