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UH, JUST REGULAR MEETING OF THE CONFERENCE COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT IS CALLED
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TO ORDER.WE HAVE, UH, ALL MEMBERS OF THE COURT PRESENT TODAY.
TODAY IS TUESDAY, APRIL 27TH, 2021 9:00 AM.
AND WE'RE IN THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING ROOM IN THE COURTHOUSE ANNEX, UM, AS IS OUR PRACTICE.
WE'LL START OFF WITH THE INVOCATION AND PLEDGES TO THE FLAGS.
UH, REVEREND KYLE IS HERE TO LEAD US IN THE INVOCATION AND, UH, COMMISSIONER CAGE WOULD LIKE TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGES.
YOU PLEASED HIM GOOD MORNING WHILE WE THANK YOU, LORD, THAT YOU ARE HERE TO WATCH OVER AND PROTECT US AND EVERYTHING THAT THERE IS FATHER.
YOUR WORD SAYS THAT YOU ARE A SHEPHERD AND WE SHALL NOT WANT FOR ANYTHING.
FATHER, FATHER, WE ASK YOUR BLESSING UPON OUR COUNTY UPON THE CHOICES, DECISIONS THAT ARE TO BE MADE FATHER AND FATHER, WHICH IS THANK YOU, FATHER, FOR ALL THAT YOU'RE TAKING CARE OF ALL THE, WE SURRENDER ALL WE HAVE UNTO YOU.
AND WE LAID AT THE FOOT OF THE CROSS AND LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR IT IN THE WONDERFUL NAME OF JESUS CHRIST.
UM, NORMALLY AT THIS POINT WE WOULD, UH, WE HAVE A SPOT TO HEAR COMMENTS FROM VISITORS, BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS FROM ANYBODY.
SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.
UM, THIS IS FROM, UH, DAVID ASBELL, THE COFFIN COUNTY CHILDREN'S SHELTER, OPERATIONAL BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND STAFF, JUDGE RICHARDSON, COMMISSIONERS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE GENEROUS DONATION FROM THE FAMILY PROTECTION FEE FUNDS FOR THE 2001 FOR THE $2,111 AND 35 CENTS.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHTFULNESS AND SUPPORT FOR THE CHILDREN IN THE SHELTER.
DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE TO SHARE? IF NOT, THAT GETS
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US TO ITEM TWO, WHICH IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.WE HAVE ITEMS A AND B UH, CARE TO PULL ANY OF THOSE THINGS OFF.
IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION, THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND ONE COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES, UH, ITEMS THREE AND FOUR OR PRESENTATIONS BY, UH, OUR COUNTY CLERK AND SHE IS UNABLE TO BE HERE TODAY.
[3. Laura Hughes; Presentation of the Texas Department of State Health Services Exemplary Five Star A^ard', received by the County Clerk's Office.]
SO I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TABLE ITEM THREE.IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER BARBARA DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.
[4. Laura Hughes; Discuss and Consider renewal of AVI/SPL Contract for Commissioners Court Recording Equipment, with funding from Count Clerk Records Management Funds.]
I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE ITEM FOUR.IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED NO MOTION CARRIES NEXT UP.
[5. Robert Scott; To receive an update from CareFlite on the status of EMS activity in Kaufman County.]
UH, WITH CARE FLIGHT TO DELIVER AN UPDATE TO US ON THE STATUS OF EMS ACTIVITY IN KAUFMAN COUNTY.Y'ALL HAVE A ME TODAY AND, UH, AFTER I'M DONE PRESENTING, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR PERFORMANCE IN THE COUNTY.
SO CURRENTLY, UM, IN OUR FISCAL YEAR, STARTING IN OCTOBER, UH, THIS MONTH, THIS PAST MONTH MARCH, WE WERE AT 91.5% COMPLIANCE, TOTAL CALL COMPLIANCE ACROSS THE COUNTY.
UH, THE COUNTY CONTRACT READS, WE MUST REMAIN ABOVE 90% COMPLIANCE FOR ALL CALLS.
UH, FOR THE FISCAL YEAR, WE ARE AT 93.5.
WE'VE BEEN ON A TREND UPWARDS, UH, AT THE START OF THE NEW YEAR, JANUARY AND FEBRUARY WERE VERY HIGH YEARS.
AND THEN WE HAD A SUDDEN DIP, BUT WE ARE LOOKING INTO AND WHY WE COULDN'T EXPLAIN WHY WE DROPPED FROM 95 TO 91 TOTAL CALLS.
UH, SO FAR FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ARE GOING TO BE 7,035.
UH, AND THAT IS JUST FOR KAUFMAN COUNTY THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE, UH, THE CITY OF KAUFFMAN AND THE CITY OF TERRELL.
THOSE ARE SEPARATED, BUT THEY AVERAGE ABOUT 1800 CALLS TOGETHER.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ALMOST DOUBLE THE VOLUME.
UH, TYPICALLY IN A YEAR WE RUN BETWEEN TWO 20,020 5,000 CALLS IN KAUFMAN COUNTY.
THAT'S NOT TRANSPORTS, THAT'S JUST GENERAL RESPONSES.
WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW TECHNOLOGY COMING, UH, DOWN THE PATH, UH, HERE AT CARE FLIGHT.
AND THAT'S GOING TO ACTUALLY FILTER OUT TO THE FIRST RESPONSE ORGANIZATIONS IN KAUFMAN COUNTY.
IT'S A BACKUP AIRWAY THAT CREWS USE WHEN THEY'RE UNABLE TO INNOVATE OR SECURE AN AIRWAY IN THE PATIENT'S LUNGS, IT'S CALLED AN IGL AND WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY PUSH THAT OUT ACROSS ALL OF CARE FLIGHT, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO FILTER
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IT THROUGH ALL OF KAUFMAN COUNTY.UM, SOME GOOD NEWS WITH THAT IS CHIEF BRIGGS IN FORNEY IS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT ACTUALLY ASKED IF HE COULD GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE PURCHASE HIMSELF AND THEY ARE MOVING TO IT ASAP BECAUSE THEY'RE SUCH BIG SUPPORTERS OF IT ALSO IN THE WAY OF EMERGENCY AIRWAY MANAGEMENT, WE ARE GOING TO BE GOING WITH THE VIDEO LARYNGOSCOPE.
SO INSTEAD OF A PARAMEDIC MANUALLY LOOKING INTO AN AIRWAY, THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK WITH A VIDEO CAMERA.
NOW IT'S A LITTLE COSTLY, BUT IT SECURES THE AIRWAY, UH, MUCH MORE DEFINITIVELY.
UH, WE GET A GOOD VIEW AND EVENTUALLY WE'RE HOPING FOR ICLOUD TECHNOLOGY WHERE WE ACTUALLY CAN PROVE, UH, PICTURES IN CHARTING AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT THESE AIRWAYS WERE SECURE.
IT'S VERY GOOD FOR THE CITIZENS OF KAUFMAN COUNTY JUST TO IMPROVE TECHNOLOGY, IMPROVED CARE.
UH, OUR FLEET WISE, WE JUST DEPLOYED A NEW UNIT, UH, IN FORNEY, OUR UNIT 94 12.
IT IS A 2021 CHEVROLET, UH, SOME NEW FEATURES THAT IT HAS, UH, ADVANCED CHILD RESTRAINT SEATS IN IT CAN CARRY UP TO THREE INFANTS IN THE RESTRAINT SYSTEM, A BETTER BACKING CAMERA TECHNOLOGY.
WE WILL NOW BE RECORDING THE REAR OF OUR VEHICLE.
SO WE HAVE A CAMERA THAT FACES FRONT ONE THAT FACES THE CREW FOR ACCOUNTABILITY, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE ONE FOR UNLOADING AND LOADING PATIENTS.
SO WE CAN ALSO VIEW THAT AND MAKE SURE WE'RE, WE'RE THE SAFEST ON THE ROAD.
SO IT'S REAL EXCITING TO HAVE THAT TRUCK THERE.
UH, WE'RE DEPLOYING THINGS LIKE, UH, ANGEL TRACKS, CAMERA SYSTEMS. WE'RE TRIALING IN THE CITY OF TERRELL WHERE THOSE TERRIBLE UNITS HAVE THIS ANGEL TRACK SYSTEM THAT IS ABLE TO SEND IMAGES TO THE CLOUD.
SO IF I HAVE ANY CONCERNS OR ONE OF YOUR CITIZENS CALLS A, HEY, I JUST WITNESSED A CAR FLAG, AMBULANCE, NOT DRIVING SO SAFE.
I CAN ACTUALLY VIEW THAT CAMERA LIVE WITH THAT CREW AND VIEW THAT INCIDENT IMMEDIATELY.
WHEREAS NOW OUR CAMERA SYSTEMS DEPENDENT ON PULLING A CARD, HOPING THAT THE INCIDENT IS THERE, AS FAR AS WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THE COMMUNITY, WE'VE BEEN HELPING WITH THE SHOT CLINICS IN TERRELL.
WE'VE BEEN PROUD TO PARTICIPATE WITH THAT.
UH, WE HAVE DONATED, UH, THOUSANDS OF SHOTS, UH, BIOHAZARD CONTAINERS, UH, PPE, WHICH HAS BEEN A LIMITED STOCK.
UH, WE HAVE NOT CHARGED THE COUNTY FOR ANY OF THAT, NOR DO WE INTEND TO ALL LABOR THAT CARE FLIGHT EMPLOYEES PARTICIPATE WHEN WE WILL REIMBURSE THEM.
FOR THAT, WE WILL NOT ASK FOR REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE CITY OF TERRELL OR FROM KAUFMAN COUNTY, ALSO WITH THE JUDGE RICHARDS HELP AND WHO WE FROM EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
WE'VE ALSO BEEN DOING A MOBILE VACCINATION CLINIC FOR BED CONFINED PATIENTS.
SO HAS KIND OF BEEN APPALLING THAT NO ONE'S BEEN HELPING THE BED CONFINED, UH, CITIZENS.
AND WE'VE DONE THIS FROM KAUFMAN COUNTY.
AND EVEN THE CITY OF MOSQUITO HAS REACHED OUT TO KAUFMAN COUNTY, CITY OF TERRELL AND ME AND WE HAVE DONE UPWARDS OF NINE PEOPLE SO FAR WITH FOUR SCHEDULED THIS WEEK TO RECEIVE IT.
AND WE HOPE THOSE NUMBERS WILL INCREASE AS WE IDENTIFY PATIENTS WHO CAN'T GET OUT OF THE HOUSE AND WANT THE VACCINE.
UM, WE HAVE A LEADERSHIP MEETING COMING UP IN THE CITY OF HOFFMAN WHERE WE'LL HAVE A ON THE SIXTH WHERE WE'LL HAVE AN AMBULANCE, THE NEW AMBULANCE THAT WE JUST GOT IN FORNEY.
AND WE'LL HAVE ONE OF OUR HELICOPTERS ON DISPLAY FOR KAUFMAN COUNTY LEADERSHIP TO VIEW FIRST RESPONDER ORGANIZATIONS.
WE HAVE HAD 20 PLUS HOURS OF TRAINING THIS MONTH, ALL THAT IS CERTIFIED TRAINING AND THEY GET A DSHS.
OUR STATE APPROVED CE CREDITS FOR THAT.
UM, AS OF LAST NIGHT SCURRY VOLUNTEER OR THE SCURRY VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT WILL BE, UH, STARTING THE PROCESS OF BECOMING A LICENSED FIRST RESPONSE ORGANIZATION AT THE BASIC LEVEL.
THIS ALLOWS THEM TO PROVIDE CARE UNDER DR.
SIMON'S IN OUR MEDICAL DIRECTOR.
SO WE'RE GOING TO PARTICIPATE WITH THEM IN GETTING CHECKED OFF.
AND WE STARTED THE PROCESS AND HAD CONTRACTS SIGNED AND THEY'VE RECEIVED THEIR PROTOCOLS SO THEY CAN BE IN STUDYING.
AND WITH THAT COMES MONTHLY TRAINING FOR SCURRY FIRE DEPARTMENT AND BETTER FOR THE CITIZENS DOWN THERE AND SCURRY, ROSSER AREA, TERRIBLE AND TEARS AND COLLEGE MOTOR ALSO WORKING VERY HARD TO BECOME LICENSED FIRST RESPONSE ORGANIZATIONS.
AND THAT JUST LEAVES ONE OR TWO DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE NOT LICENSED WITHIN THE COUNTY.
WE DO HAVE A EMERGENCY RESPONDER COURSE COMING TO THE COUNTY, UH, MONDAY, THAT'S FREE OF CHARGE FOR ALL FIRST RESPONDERS ABOUT A 70 HOUR CLASS.
AND THEY WILL BE LICENSED HOPEFULLY AT THE COMPLETION OF CLASS AS A DEPARTMENT STATE AND HEALTH SERVICES OR EMERGENCY MEDICAL RESPONDER, OR YOU ALSO KNOWN AS AN ETA.
AND THEN IN AUGUST, WE WILL CONTINUE OUR YEARLY EMT COURSE, 160 HOUR COURSE.
THAT'S DONE TYPICALLY IN KAUFFMAN.
I THINK THIS YEAR WE'LL DO IT IN CRANDALL ALSO COMES AT A GREAT DISCOUNT TO THE FIRST RESPONDERS OF KAUFMAN COUNTY.
AND THAT'S WHAT I HAVE FOR YOU.
AND IT'D BE, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
I KNOW THAT I'VE SEE YOU GUYS OUT WORKING AT THE HUB SITE, BUT I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT Y'ALL WERE NOT CHARGING US FOR THAT.
SO YOU'RE NOT CHARGING THE SITE FOR THEM.
UM, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
ONE OF THEM HAS TO DO YOU, YOU TALKED A LOT ABOUT ALL THE TECHNOLOGY THAT YOU GUYS HAVE AND, OR ACQUIRING IT, YOU KNOW, CLOUD TECHNOLOGY AND THAT SORT OF THING.
DO YOU DO, Y'ALL NOT HAVE ISSUES WITH CONNECTIVITY IN PARTS
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OF THE COUNTY.YOU CAN, WE, WE WILL, WE WILL SOMETIMES RUN DUAL CARDS.
SO WE'LL, WE'LL FEED OFF VERIZON AND AT AND T BUT YES, YOU ARE SOMETIMES LIMITED TO WHAT YOU CAN SAVE.
SO WITH LIKE OUR MONITOR SYSTEM, THAT'S SAVED INSIDE THE CARDIAC MONITOR UNTIL WE DO GET INTO A SERVICE AREA.
AND THEN WHEN WE USE THIS OLD RESPOND, THAT'S OUR CAD SYSTEM.
SO WHERE IT HELPS US LOCATE TRACK AND GET UPDATES ON THE PATIENT AS WE'RE ARRIVING AGAIN, SOMETIMES THAT CAN CUT OFF, BUT HAVING THE DUAL TECHNOLOGY, IT REALLY IS.
MOST, I GUESS PROBABLY, I DON'T KNOW.
I WOULD ASSUME MOST PLACES IF YOU CAN'T GET AT AND T YOU CAN PROBABLY GET VERIZON.
UH, DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ROB? NO.
YOU MADE YOUR COMMENT ABOUT THE YOU'RE MEETING AT 91% THRESHOLD ON THE COMPLIANCE OR 93.
WHAT DATA DO YOU USE TO, TO MEET THOSE, TO BE COMPLIANT? SO JUST TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC AND EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, SO WE TAKE ALL THE CALLS, UH, FROM OUR CAD AND THEY GET DUMPED INTO A SPREADSHEET AND ALL THOSE CALLS ARE GOING TO BE, UM, PRIORITIZED ONE, TWO AND THREE.
UH, JUST TO EXPLAIN WHAT THAT MEANS IS A PRIORITY.
ONE IS A LIFE EMERGENCY PRIORITY.
TWO IS A, A, A NON-LIFE EMERGENCY, BUT THEIR CREWS ARE STILL RUNNING.
WHAT WE CALL HOT OR WITH THEIR LIGHTS AND SIRENS ACTIVATED.
AND THEN A PRIORITY THREE IS A NON-LIFE EMERGENCY.
AND THE CREWS ARE GOING TO RESPOND WITHOUT LIGHTS AND SIRENS.
SO IT'S TRIAGED THROUGH A PRO QA SYSTEM WITH DISPATCH, AND THEN IT'S TRANSLATED TO THE CREW AND ONE OF THE THREE PRIORITIES.
SO THEY KNOW HOW FAST THEY SHOULD RESPOND, WHETHER OR NOT THEY SHOULD ACTIVATE LIGHTS AND SIRENS.
THEN THAT ALSO GOES TO THE GUIDELINES WITHIN THE COUNTY WHERE SAY YOU HAVE A PRIORITY ONE IN THE CITY OF FORNEY THAT WE'LL SET UP A TIME LIMIT.
SO THAT ONE IN PARTICULAR IS NINE MINUTES, 59 SECONDS PRIORITY ONE IN THE CITIES OF CRANDALL, CAMP, MAYBANK AND FORNEY.
SO YOUR ETA OR YOUR RESPONSE TIME? YES.
FROM DISPATCH TO WHEN WE MAKE SCENE CONTACTS.
Y'ALL MIGHT CAN SEEN CONTACT OR THE FIRST ONE? NO, IT HAS TO BE US.
IT CAN BE A, A FIRST RESPONSE VEHICLE FOR CAREFUL LIGHT, BUT CURRENTLY WE ONLY HAVE ONE, WHEREAS WE USED TO HAVE TWO CARS.
WE HAD A COMMUNITY HEALTH VEHICLE WORKING WITH THR THAT WAS A LOADED OUT LIKE AN AMBULANCE.
UH, NOW IT'S ONLY ONE, YOU'LL SEE MY VEHICLE, MY OPERATIONS VEHICLE MOVING AROUND.
SO LIKE, I, IF I SHOW UP ON SCENE, IT'S SIMPLY TO HELP OUT.
AND THEN FIRST RESPONDERS DON'T STOP THE CLOCK EITHER.
AND IT'S GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE THEY'RE VERY SKILLED, BUT NO ONLY, ONLY US WHEN THE AMBULANCE GETS THERE.
SOME FIRST RESPONDERS HAVE ALS OR ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT PROTOCOLS AND TREATMENT AND, AND THINGS LIKE TERRELL.
UM, AND FOR THE COUNTY, THE CITY OF FORNEY, EXCELLENT FIRE DEPARTMENT, VERY AGGRESSIVE.
UH, BUT THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS ARE AT THE BASIC LIFE SUPPORT LEVEL, WHICH THEY CAN DO A LOT.
AND WE'RE GETTING THESE AUTO CPR DEVICES GOING AT THE DEPARTMENTS AS WELL AS CARE FLIGHT.
SO THEY'RE STARTING THE PROCESS, BUT IT'S STILL NOT EVERYTHING THE AMBULANCE HAS ON IT.
SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, OUR GOAL IS OUR MISSION IS TO GET SOMEONE FROM POINT A TO POINT B SAFELY.
SO WELL, AND THEN THE NEW AIRWAY IS, IS, IS AWESOME.
I TAKE IT THAT ANYBODY CAN USE ANY FIRST RESPONDERS.
THAT'S THE EXCITING PART IS THAT ALL THE EMT FIRST RESPONDERS AND EMERGENCY CARE ATTENDED THE CAS OR EMR, THEY WILL BE ABLE TO USE THIS AS WELL.
AND LIKE I SAID, IT WAS, IT WAS GRABBED ON SO FAST BY CHIEF BRIGGS AND HIS EMS OFFICER THAT THEY, THEY WERE ASKING FOR.
NOW WE HAD APPROVAL ON IT YESTERDAY.
SAMSON SAID, THEY, IF THEY'RE READY TO GO, AS LONG AS THEY HAVE TRAINING AND WE CAN SHOW TRAINING, THEY CAN GO AHEAD AND ROLL THAT OUT.
SO IT'S A LITTLE COSTLY, BUT IT'S, IT'S BETTER FOR THE CITIZENS.
THEY'VE JUST KIND OF DEVELOPED THAT IT MIGHT BE EASIER EXACTLY.
THESE IT'S THIS, THIS METHOD OF BLIND INSERTION WHERE IT'S NOT, IT DOESN'T REQUIRE EXCESSIVE AMOUNT OF TRAINING AND IT REQUIRES SKILL AND TRAINING.
I'M NOT TRYING TO DOWNPLAY A MEDICAL PROCEDURE, BUT IT, IT TAKES AWAY A LOT OF ERRORS AND AIRWAY MANAGEMENT IS A BIG AREA OF CONCERN CLINICALLY IN EMS. YEAH.
IT'S IN THE TECHNOLOGY SINCE I DID IT.
I MEAN, NOW YOU CAN ACTUALLY WATCH A VIDEO SCREEN TO MAKE SURE YOU SEE THE COURSE, BUT IT DOESN'T TELL YOU IF YOU GO INTO DEEP.
NO, WE S WE STILL, SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE UNDERGOING MASS TRAINING IN KAUFMAN COUNTY.
THEY HAVE TO GO TO GRAND PRAIRIE FOR THIS.
SO WE HAVE THIS NEW SIMULATION MANNEQUIN, AND HE'S ALMOST UNCOMFORTABLE TO TRAIN WITH BECAUSE HE'S SO REALISTIC AND HE'S VERY DIFFICULT.
AND THEY WERE SAYING, WE CAN, WE MAKE, WE PROVOKE THEM TO MISS SO WE CAN CLEAR UP ANY ERRORS IN THEIR TECHNIQUE.
AND THIS VIDEO IS NOT NATURAL TO US WHERE WE USE THE OLD MANUAL.
AND SO IT TAKES A LOT OF TRAINING, BUT WE'LL GET IT ROLLED OUT IN CITY.
40 HAS ALSO JUST BEEN AMAZING.
I'VE ALSO GRABBED ONTO THAT AND THEY'VE ALREADY FOR ALMOST EVERY UNIT, THEY HAVE
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A FIRE APPARATUS.THEY ALREADY HAVE VIDEO READY TO GO AS WELL.
SO WE'RE ALL KIND OF MAKING THIS CONVERSION TOGETHER.
THAT'S ABSOLUTELY UNBELIEVABLE.
UH, YEAH, JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT YOUR NEW AMBULANCE, IS THAT A PLUS UP PIECE OF EQUIPMENT OR IS THAT A REPLACEMENT PIECE OF IT? THAT'S A REPLACEMENT.
SO WE HAVE A MILEAGE PARAMETERS WITHIN THE CONTRACT.
WE WILL NOT LET OUR, CHASSIES GET A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MILES.
SO WE, UM, THE AMBULANCE, THEY WERE IN A RESERVE UNIT, UM, AND THEY HAD EXCEEDED THEIR MILES.
SO IT WAS TIME TO GET THEM A NEW ONE.
SO WE TAKE WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF REMOUNTS, WE'LL TAKE A BOX OFF AN OLD FRAZIER WHERE WE RE OUTFIT IT WITH THESE NEW GENERATION CARE FLIGHT SEATS AND NEW SAFETY HARNESSES.
UM, AND THEN WE PUT IT ON A NEW CHASSIS, UM, AND THEN EVERYTHING GETS CONNECTED BACK NEW WRAPPING AND THEY GET SENT OUT.
SO SCOTT, YOU KNOW, YOU AND I, WE, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS ON A COUPLE OF OCCASIONS, BUT, UH, I, I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU AND CAREFUL EYE TO CONTINUE TO BE SENSITIVE TO THE POPULATION GROWTH IN COFFIN COUNTY.
UH, I MEAN, I, I W W WE ALL NOW KNOW THAT WE'RE AT ABOUT 180,000, WHICH IS A SUBSTANTIALLY MORE THAN WHEN CARE FLIGHT STARTED THIS.
SO AS THE POPULATION INCREASES, THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT CLEARLY IS GOING TO INCREASE.
AND I JUST ENCOURAGE CARE FLIGHT TO CONTINUE TO MONITOR THAT, UH, BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO REFLECT YOUR, YOUR COMPLIANCE TIMES AND, AND REALLY THE QUALITY OF SERVICE.
SO, UH, I HOPE YOU'LL JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND THAT THE POPULATION CONTINUES TO GROW AND PROJECTIONS NOW ARE 5% OR MORE FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE EVERY YEAR.
WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE THE CENSUS, HOW MUCH THE COUNTY HAS GROWN.
I STARTED HERE, I RAN MY FIRST CLINICAL OUT OF THIS COUNTY 18 YEARS AGO.
AND, UM, IT'S DEFINITELY GROWN IN 18 YEARS AND OVER THE LAST YEAR, YOU'RE RIGHT.
IT'S, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, UPWARDS OF 20% INCREASE IN CALL VOLUME.
SO WE'RE DEFINITELY LOOKING AT OUR SYSTEM, UH, MEETING WITH UPPER MANAGEMENT TO SEE WHAT KIND OF RESOURCES WE CAN PUT IN KAUFMAN COUNTY.
SO WE DON'T GET BEHIND THE CURVE.
WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE A PROBLEM.
SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO BE, I MEAN, WHEN, WHEN YOU HIT 20% POPULATION GROWTH, YOU KNOW, BY EXTENSION, YOU MIGHT CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, A 20% INCREASE IN AVAILABLE EQUIPMENT.
I MEAN, UH, I'M, UH, I WANT TO SAY ONE THING I WANT TO COMMEND YOU ALL ON YOUR SERVICE.
UH, Y'ALL HAD TO RESPOND TO MY HOUSE FROM MY MOTHER-IN-LAW.
AND, AND, UM, I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, IT WAS VERY FAST.
YOU, YOU EXCEEDED YOUR TIME LIMIT IT.
I MEAN, UNDER IT, UNDER THE MAIL BY QUITE A BIT.
AND, AND I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED.
I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THEY THEY'RE SO WELL-TRAINED AND SOME WELL GUIDED IT'S, IT'S, IT'S REALLY AMAZING TO ME.
AND THE EQUIPMENT IS OUTSTANDING.
THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE NEW GURNEYS, THE WAY THEY FOLD UP IN THIS STUFF, THAT'S REALLY AMAZING.
I WANT TO TELL YOU, YOUR CREW IS REALLY, REALLY, REALLY GOOD.
GOOD, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.
AND WE, I WANT TO MAKE IT ALWAYS KNOWN TO THE COURT THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT THAT WAS 9% OF 8.5% OF CALLS WE DIDN'T MAKE, AND WE WILL BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR EVERY CALL.
WE DON'T MAKE AN ANSWER FOR THAT.
UH, NEVER, THERE'S NOT ONE CITIZEN WE WANT TO BE LATE TO, AND WHILE IT'S PROBABLY PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE A HUNDRED PERCENT IN A CONTRACT, BUT WE WILL ALWAYS STRIVE FOR PERFECTION AND WE WILL BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR MORE LIKE FOR YOUR CITIZENS.
UH, I, I CONCUR WITH, WITH THE SKEET.
I REALLY APPRECIATE HOW RESPONSIVE YOU'VE BEEN TO MY REQUEST FOR INFORMATION.
AND SIR, AND, UH, SO I APPRECIATE THAT AND APPRECIATE, APPRECIATE THE PROFESSIONALISM.
I THINK YOU NEED TO TAKE THIS SINCE YOU'RE UP HERE IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY.
TALK ABOUT THE MEMBERSHIPS THERE THOUGH THAT YOU GET THE COUNTY AND THE WATER SYSTEMS AND STUFF.
SO HERE, IT'S GETTING EXCITING TOO.
SO WE'VE HAD ISSUES WITH GASTONIA SCURRY, NOT WANTING TO PARTICIPATE IN THE MEMBERSHIP PROGRAM.
AND THIS WAS LONG BEFORE MY TIME.
UH, AND I UNDERSTAND A LOT OF THE WATER SYSTEMS. IT SEEMS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE THAT, THAT YOUR, THAT DOLLAR A MONTH THAT YOU MAY PAY ON YOUR WATER BILL IS GOING TO GIVE YOU EITHER HALF OFF ON A CASH RIDE OR WHATEVER YOUR INSURANCE PAYS.
THAT'S TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE THAT A DOLLAR COULD COVER AS MANY PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN YOUR RESIDENCE POSSIBLE, BUT IT IS SIMPLY PUT IT THAT GOOD.
UM, AND WE FINALLY GOT GASTONIA SCURRY.
WE HAVE A CONTRACT SIGNED WITH THEM.
WE'RE IN PROCESS OF GETTING THOSE CITIZENS READY TO GO, AND THAT'S BEEN A BIG HOLE AND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF COMPLAINTS OVER BILLS AND THAT AREA.
SO THAT'S EXCITING BECAUSE IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, IT'S NOT SOMETHING CAREFULLY IT'S PROFITING OFF OF.
IT IS LITERALLY ONE AMBULANCE RIDE, ONE HELICOPTER RIDE, AND IT'S JUST PAID FOR THE LIFE OF THAT MEMBERSHIP.
SO MOST, UH, WATER DISTRICTS WITHIN KAUFMAN COUNTY DO PARTICIPATE.
UM, AND FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, IT IS $1 A MONTH FOR EVERYONE.
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THAT LIVES UNDER THAT RESIDENCE.THE ONLY THING WE CANNOT DO IS ILLEGALLY, INSTEAD OF TEXAS, WE CANNOT CHARGE A MEMBERSHIP FEE TO SOMEONE WHO'S ON MEDICAID, WHATEVER MEDICAID PAYS, MEDICAID PAY.
SO WE HAVE TO REFUND THEM FOR THAT, FOR THOSE WHO DON'T HAVE IT, THEY HAVE THE $49 A MONTH, UH, PROGRAM, UH, WHICH STILL AM IS, IS A GOOD DEAL.
I KNOW SOME OF THE CITIZENS DOWN IN SCURRY WERE REALLY UPSET BEFORE WE GOT ON BOARD WITH GASTONIA AND JIM SCHWARTZ.
MY CEO HAD CUT THAT IN HALF FOR THEM, FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO WERE ON, ON BOARD.
SO THEY, THEY GOT A DISCOUNTED RATE, UH, NOT QUITE THE WATERVILLE MEMBERSHIP, BUT REALLY WE ARE.
I CAN'T WORDS CAN'T EXPLAIN HOW HAPPY YOU WERE AT GASTONIA SCARIES, UH, POURED, REACHED OUT TO US AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET, UH, ON THE SAME PAGE.
WELL, I, THAT I TELL EVERYBODY TO JOIN THEIR MEMBERS YET.
I MEAN, NOT MEMBERSHIP, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, PAY THE DOLLAR OR PAY THE $49 A MONTH.
I DIDN'T KNOW A LADY IN MY PRECINCT THAT HAD TO USE CARE THAT HELICOPTER, BUT THEY ALSO DON'T REALIZE IS THAT THEY HAVE TO USE IN AN EMERGENCY FREE OUT AMBULANCE TO GET FROM ONE POINT TO THE PICKUP POINT FROM THE HELICOPTER.
AND THAT'S AN EXPENSIVE RIDE WHEN IT'S THAT KIND OF EMERGENCY.
I SAW THE BILLS AND IT'S NOT CHEAP.
AND OF COURSE THEY HAD CARE PLAN.
THEY HAVEN'T ME A COUNTY EMPLOYEE.
SO, UH, IT WAS A GOOD DEAL FOR THEM.
I MEAN, IT WAS A BAD DEAL FOR THE ACCIDENT, BUT THEY MADE IT FULL RECOVERY.
IT WAS A GOOD THING, BUT I'M JUST SAYING IT WAS A GOOD THING THAT THEY DIDN'T, THEY DIDN'T KNOW NICOLE WELL IN THE PROCESS, A TRAUMATIC INCIDENT CAN LAST A DAY, BUT FINANCIAL CRISIS FROM IT LASTS LONGER THAN THAT.
THAT'S WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO BE.
IT'S A, IT'S A WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL DEAL.
AND ONE THING TO EXPLAIN YOUR CITIZENS, SUSAN DON'T PARTICIPATE WHO DO FIND THEMSELVES IN THE MIDDLE OF EMERGENCY GOING, OH MY, I WISH I WOULD HAVE PARTICIPATED WITH CARE FLIGHT.
THEY HAVE UNTIL MIDNIGHT OF THE DAY OF THE INCIDENT, THE CALL TO SIGN UP FOR A MEMBERSHIP.
AND IT KICKS IN AT THAT MOMENT TIME, BUT IT HAS TO BE MIDNIGHT THAT DAY.
SO ALWAYS, ALWAYS EVERYONE HAS MY CONTACT INFORMATION, RIGHT? WE WILL HELP THEM GET SET UP.
I HAD TO DO IT FOR MY OWN GRANDPARENTS WHO DIDN'T LIVE IN THE AREA AT ONCE AND IT SAVED THEM A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY WHEN THEY COULD NOT AFFORD.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THAT DEAL ON INSURANCE ON MY CAR.
I KNOW
I PROMISE YOU THAT CAR INSURANCE COMPANY WOULDN'T TAKE THAT CALL.
NO, I THINK I'M DOING A WONDERFUL JOB.
[6. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider exiting regular meeting and enter workshop,]
UH, LOOK FOR A MOTION TO LEAVE OUR REGULAR MEETING AND GO INTO A WORKSHOP.WE HAVE MOTION COMMISSIONER BARBERS OR SECOND I'LL SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES, UH, BEFORE WE MOVE INTO THIS DEAL AND I'LL ASK IF KAREN WANTS TO WEIGH IN ON THIS.
UM, THERE IS A CONCEPT OUT THERE ABOUT WORKSHOPS THAT A WORKSHOP MEETING IS DIFFERENT THAN A REGULAR MEETING, AND IT IS NOT.
IF YOU HAVE A WORKSHOP MEETING, IT IS A POSTED PUBLIC MEETING.
UM, WE GOT THIS INTO THE AGENDA, BUT I HAVE, UH, KIND OF RESISTED THESE A COUPLE OF TIMES.
AND SO I DON'T THINK, UH, UNLESS THE COMMISSIONERS GANG UP ON ME, WE WON'T BE DOING THESE THINGS IN WORKSHOPS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T, IT'S JUST EXTRA STEPS.
SO DON'T REALLY NEED, DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT? A WORKSHOP THERE'S A CONCEPT THAT A WORKSHOP MEETING IS SOME KIND OF A, OF A SPECIAL MEETING AND THAT, UH, THAT YOU CAN, THAT YOU, YOU HAVE TO GO INTO A WORKSHOP MEETING FOR GENERAL DISCUSSIONS OR WHATEVER, BUT A WORKSHOP MEETING IS JUST A PUBLIC MEETING.
IT'S JUST A PART OF OUR, UM, THERE ISN'T ANY, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE BENEFIT OF TAKING MOTION AND ALL THAT, AND GOING INTO A WORKSHOP WHEN IT'S JUST, IT STILL HAS ALL THE SAME RESTRICTIONS AND EVERYTHING THAT A REGULAR MEETING DOES.
AND YOU CAN TAKE ACTION IN A WORKSHOP MEETING.
UM, YOU POSTED IF IT'S POSTED AND IT'S ON THE ENGINEERING ACCIDENT, TAKE ACTION.
SO IF YOU DON'T WANT TO ANSWER THAT RIGHT NOW, THAT'S FINE.
WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT OFFLINE LATER, BUT I, I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THE POINT OF DOING THIS.
WHY DON'T WE TALK ABOUT IT LATER? OKAY.
UH, SO RANDY AND MONIQUE, UH, HERE TO DISCUSS CHANGES THE COFFIN COUNTY SUBDIVISION AND LAND USE REGULATIONS, AS WELL AS INCORPORATING FIRE FLOW REQUIREMENTS.
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PACKET IN CASE YOU GUYS CAME IN YOUR PACKET, BUT IF YOU WANT A PAPER COPY, I HAVE ONE.SO YOU WANT TO PAY FOR THAT SHOP? GOT IT.
[8. Workshop; Randy/Monique; Discuss changes to the Kaufman County Fire Code to replace Appendix B as written to an ISO formula.]
UH, THE ADOPTION OF THE 2018 FIRE CODE, WHICH WAS DONE A WEEK AFTER THE ADOPTION OF OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, UM, WE NEEDED TO KIND OF WORK THAT SYSTEM OUT.UM, WE ADOPTED A CERTAIN APPENDIX THAT, UM, NOW WE WANT TO REVISE, WHICH RANDY WILL SPEAK ON THAT ON THE ISO.
UM, I HAVE JUST PROVIDED YOU THE PAGES WITHIN OUR SUBDIVISION REGS THAT WOULD BE ALTERED, UM, AND CHANGED TO, UH, TO, UM, REFLECT HIS ISO.
AND SO THE FIRST PAGE OF THAT PACKET SHOWS THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT IN THE REGS.
SECOND PAGE WILL SHOW THE HIGHLIGHTED CHANGES.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE WORDING THAT WILL BE CHANGED SO THAT WHEN YOU GO TO APPROVE IT, YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE APPROVING.
UM, WE WILL, UM, AMEND THE CHECKLIST, UM, AT A LATER TIME, ONCE YOU GUYS APPROVE THIS AND WE'LL GO BACK THROUGH THE CHECKLIST, THE CHECKLIST IS, UM, IN THE HANDBOOK, WHICH IS NOT NEEDED TO BE APPROVED BY COURT.
CAUSE IT'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE PAPERWORK.
SO, UM, I'LL LET, UH, RANDY OR DAVE TALK ABOUT THE FIRE EDITS.
SO WHAT THIS DOES IS IT MAKES IT VERY CLEAR THAT THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, THE BAR MARSHALL NEEDS TO BE INVOLVED.
UM, I THINK BEFORE IN THE REGULATIONS, IT WASN'T ALL THAT CLEAR.
WE HAD SOME QUESTIONS, WE HAD SOME KICKBACK, UH, WE HAD SOME ARGUMENTS AND THIS MAKES IT EXTREMELY CLEAR THAT IN EVERY STEP OF THE PROCESS, THE FARM MARSHALL FIRE FLOW HAS TO BE ADDRESSED.
JUST, JUST ELIMINATE ALL QUESTIONS AND THE CONFUSION.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE WENT TO DO WITH THE SUBDIVISION REGULATION CHANGES ON APPENDIX B.
UM, UM, WE HAD, WE HAD THE, UM, THE 2018 FIRE CODE, APPENDIX B IS OUR APPENDIX B.
AND SINCE THEN, RANDY HAS DISCOVERED THAT THE FORMULA INVOLVED WITH THAT IS NOT USER-FRIENDLY AND IT WILL GIVE YOU DIFFERENT RESULTS, UM, FROM WHAT MIGHT BE NORMAL.
SO WHAT WE'VE COME UP WITH, OR WHAT HE HAS COME UP WITH, I SHOULD SAY IS CHANGING THAT OVER TO THE ISO FIRE FLOW, DETERMINATION AND FORMULA, WHICH HE PUTS YOU TOGETHER, A NICE LITTLE SPREADSHEET.
SO YOU CAN SEE, HE CAN EXPLAIN MORE IN DETAIL HOW THAT WORKS, BUT I BELIEVE IT WILL HELP US MAKE THAT MUCH, A MUCH CLEARER AND CLEANER PROCESS FOR, UH, ANY BUILDINGS THAT ARE GOING IN THAT NEED OUR FLOW.
YEAH, AS YOU'RE SAYING, THE, THE CURRENT FLOWCHART THAT WE'RE USING IS ADOPTED, UH, BY THE ICC INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL, AND IT'S A BLANKET COVERAGE, UH, AND IT'S PRIMARILY FOR MUNICIPALITIES THAT ARE BUILT OUT, UH, AFTER A LOT OF RESEARCH AND STUDYING, WE'VE RECOGNIZED THAT THE ISO FORMULA INSURANCE SERVICES ORGANIZATION IS, UM, IS MUCH MORE APPLES TO APPLES.
UH, IF YOU HAVE A COMMON, BASIC STRUCTURE, NO HAZARDS, COMMON OCCUPANCY, IT SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCES THE WATERFLOW RATES THAT ARE REQUIRED.
WHEREAS IF YOU HAVE A HAZARDOUS MATERIAL, STORAGE, EXPLOSIVES, BLIND MOBILES, THINGS LIKE THAT, OBVIOUSLY IT REQUIRES MORE WATER.
AND THE EMAIL THAT A FURNISHED EACH OF YOU, UH, JUST ON THAT FRONT PAGE, I GAVE AN EXAMPLE OF THE FIVE DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATIONS OF OCCUPANCIES, SAME SQUARE FOOTAGE, SAME TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION ON THE BUILDING.
THE ONLY THING THAT VARIES WOULD BE THE ACTUAL OCCUPANCY FACTOR IN THE BUILDING.
AND THERE'S A REFLECTION OF THE DIFFERENT GALLONS PER MINUTE REQUIREMENT FOR THOSE.
UM, I SO ALSO ADDRESSES THE RESIDENTIAL SECTION AND, UH, COMMERCIALLY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT WE EXPECT TO USE COMMERCIALLY AND ON THE RESIDENTIAL, IF, UH, APPROVED BY THE COURT, I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL TO OUR WATER DEPARTMENTS BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL STRUGGLING TO TRY TO KEEP UP WITH THE GROWTH OF THE COUNTY, YOU KNOW, KEEPING THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE BUILT UP.
BUT IT BASICALLY SAYS THAT ANY STRUCTURED RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE THAT IS NO MORE THAN TWO STORIES, HIGH, NO LARGER THAN 4,200 SQUARE FEET AND AT LEAST A HUNDRED FEET AWAY FROM ANY OTHER RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE OR COMMERCIAL BUILDING THAT A, THE FLOW RATE IS 500 VERSUS THE THOUSAND THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT.
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UM, THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN WATERFLOW RATES.I HAVE VISITED WITH A FIRE DEPARTMENTS ABOUT THIS, AND I'VE DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH.
AND, AND EVEN IN MY OWN EXPERIENCE, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE YEARS IN THE FIRE SERVICE, UH, THESE FLOW RATES ARE VERY ACCEPTABLE.
THEY, THEY ARE GOING TO PROVIDE IN MOST CASES WOULD PROBABLY BE ALL THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS ARE CAPABLE OF PUMPING AT THAT TIME, ANYHOW, WITHOUT BRINGING IN ADDITIONAL RESOURCES.
SO, UH, YOU'VE HAD THE DOCUMENT, THE ENTIRE DOCUMENT AND THE GUIDE AND, UH, THAT ALGEBRAIC FORMULA, ALTHOUGH IT CAN BE, UH, LOOK A LITTLE COMPLICATED, IT'S ACTUALLY NOT, I DID CREATE A SPREADSHEET THAT WAS LAB.
YOU COULD ACTUALLY TRY IT ON YOUR COMPUTER IF YOU WANTED TO PLUG IN THE NUMBERS.
VERY SIMPLE, VERY SELF-EXPLANATORY AND IT MORE ACCURATELY DEPICTS THE GIVEN SITUATION VERSUS A BLANKET COVERAGE.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TODAY.
I'M NOT SURE, BUT, UH, I UNDERSTAND THIS SAY A HOME IS A, I THINK YOU SAID 4,000 SQUARE FEET OR 40, 4,240, A HUNDRED K AT RIGHT NOW, OUR MINIMUM WIDTH ON THE ACRE LOT IS 75 FOOT, RIGHT? FOR THE FRONTAGE.
THE FRONT LOT HAS TO BE 75 FOOT FRONTAGE BACK TO THE 50 FOOT SETBACK LINE.
SO IN ORDER FOR A 4,200 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE TO FIT ON THAT, TO BE A HUNDRED FEET BETWEEN IT AND THE HOUSE NEXT TO IT, THOSE LOTS WOULD HAVE TO BE WIDER THAN THAT WHEN THEY, THEY WOULD, AND THERE WOULD BE A SEPTIC CLAUSE IN THERE AS WELL, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE 10 FOOT OFF OF THE FENCE LINE.
YOU CAN'T SPRAY IN YOUR WATER SOURCE.
IT WOULD DEPEND ON IF THEY WERE ON SEPTIC.
ADDITIONALLY, IN THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT, IF, UH, IF A HOUSE IS CLOSER THAN A HUNDRED FOOT, UH, THE BACK, THE LAST PAGE OF THE A THREE PAGE CHART THAT IT GAVE ME, UH, 31 FEET TO A HUNDRED FEET THAT GALLONS PER MINUTE INCREASED THIS TO 750 GALLONS A MINUTE.
AND THEN 11 TO 30 FEET WOULD BE A THOUSAND GALLONS PER MINUTE, WHICH IS WHERE WE CURRENTLY ARE.
AND THEN OF COURSE, LESS THAN 10 FEET, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE THE DOMINO EFFECT.
SO THAT'S WHERE ALL THE RESOURCES ARE COMING IN.
IT ADDRESSES THE NEED FOR, FOR DENSITY.
AND IN DEVELOPMENT, IF THEY ARE PUTTING IN PRIVATE ROADS, THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY THAT 75 FOOT FRONTAGE IS OFF OF A COUNTY ROAD, RIGHT? SO IF THEY'RE BUILDING IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THEY CAN HAVE 2,400 SQUARE FOOT, LOTS IN THE HOUSE BEFORE A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET, THREE STORIES HIGH, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO JUST SO I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT I WOULD STILL NEED THE ANCHOR LU WOULD LIKE FURTHER SEPTIC.
THEY'RE BRINGING IN THEIR OWN UTILITIES.
A LOT OF THEM WILL BE, UH, CREATE THEIR OWN WATER DISTRICTS SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE THOSE SMALLER LOTS LIKE WALDEN POND.
BUT WE DID REALIZING THAT THE FUTURE OF COFFIN COUNTY IS OBVIOUSLY GOING TO BE DENSER.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE THOUGHT THIS WAS A, IT WAS AN AWESOME FORMULA.
IT'S A NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED FORMULA IT'S WHO DETERMINES YOUR INSURANCE RIGHTS ON YOUR HOMES.
AND, UH, AND THEN IT ACCOUNTS FOR THE ADDITIONAL LABOR WATER.
WHEN YOU DO HAVE AN INCREASED DENSITY, IT'S ALSO GOING TO BE IN A FED ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE FOR THE SAME REASON.
A LOT OF THESE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES ARE HAVING SOME DIFFICULTY MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY'RE WAITING ON THE WATER DEPARTMENTS AND SOME OF THE WATER DEPARTMENTS CURRENTLY CAN'T MEET THAT NEED.
NOW THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD OUT OBVIOUSLY LARGER LINES.
BUT YEAH, I CAN SEE IN SOME PLACES WHERE WATER COMPANY, I CAN SEE THEM IN A LOT OF PLACES WHERE THE SOME WATER COMPANY HAS NEVER CATCH UP ON THAT FOR A LOT OF YEARS.
IT QUICKLY DENSITY AND THEN CONSTRUCTION PLANS TO BE CLOSER TO THE CORE, BUT THEN IT BUILDS OUT FROM THERE, BUT FOR A LONG TIME, YEAH.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IN MY AREA AND DENSITIES THERE, I MEAN, THERE'S NO QUESTION.
SO, UH, I DON'T HAVE THAT ISSUE, BUT I KNOW IF YOU GET THE CAMP, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF STRUCTURES SPREAD A LONG WAYS OUT.
I MEAN, IN THE DENSITY SPOT, NOT GOING TO BE THERE FOR AWHILE.
BUT THAT WAS WHY YOU NEED SPRINKLER SYSTEMS IN RESIDENTIAL.
THAT'S A, THAT'S A HARD BARGAIN TO PUSH.
[9. Workshop; Monique Hunter; Discuss changes to the Kaufman county subdivision and land use regulations regarding road use agreements, review fees and flow chart,]
DO WE HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD THERE, MONIQUE THE FEES AND FOLK CHART, OR IS THAT ALL WRAPPED UP AND I WANTED TO HAVE WITH ALL OF YOU, ARE WE READY FOR THAT? OKAY.YOU'D HAVE TO WHERE WE WILL TAKE ACTION AFTER THIS.
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ALRIGHT.I WANT TO MAKE SOME CHANGES TO SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WERE, UM, TO OUR RANKS AND OUR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AND, UM, AND, UM, IN ORDER TO DO THAT AND GET ALL OF YOU IN THE SAME ROOM, I NEED TO DO IT THIS WAY.
AND SO I JUST KIND OF PRINTED THESE THINGS OUT AND YOUR OPINION AND FEEDBACK BEFORE I GO IN, MAKE SOME CHANGES AND I'LL BRING THOSE BACK TO COURT WHEN THE TIME COMES, SORRY, THERE'S THREE SEPARATE ONES THERE.
SO IN THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON THAT ONE, A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES COMING IN, BRINGING IN COST DRUGS ON COUNTY ROADS, THE DEVELOPMENT LASTING LONGER THAN A YEAR AND DAMAGING THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND SO WE CAN USE A ROAD AGREEMENT.
AND I'D LIKE TO INSERT THAT INTO THE, INTO THE, UM, ON YOUR, THE SECTION AS WELL AS THE, UM, PULVER SECTION, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES THEY'LL COME IN AND THEY WILL ACTUALLY BE DEVELOPING YET.
THEY'LL SELL THOSE LOTS TO A DEVELOPER.
AND THEN THAT DEVELOPER WOULD NEED TO HAVE THE TEMPLATE OF WHAT OUR ROAD AGREEMENT WOULD LOOK LIKE STANDARD.
AND I'D LIKE TO IMPLEMENT THAT INTO THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS UNDER BOTH SECTIONS BECAUSE PRE-CONSTRUCTION SECTION AND THE COLBERT SECTION.
SO WHEN A DEVELOPER COMES IN AND WANTS TO DO AND THEY BUY 10 LOTS, THEY'RE GOING TO PUT ALL 10 CULVERTS IN BEFORE THEY CAN LEAVE THE COUNTY ROAD.
AND AT THAT TIME WE WORK THAT ROAD AGREEMENT.
SO THAT'S THE STANDARD TEMPLATE.
WE'LL USE IT FOR ALL FOUR PRECINCTS.
UM, IF WE NEED TO AMEND IT, WE CAN, IF YOU WANT TO ADD SOME THINGS TO IT, WE CAN, BUT A STANDARDIZED TEMPLATE JUST GIVES US SOMETHING TO WORK WITH FROM THE START.
AND THAT MEANS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PUT IN A LINE OF ESCROW INTO AN ACCOUNT WHEN THEIR CONSTRUCTION IS DONE PRIOR TO CONSTRUCTION, THE COUNTY WILL TAKE A PICTURE OF THAT ROAD AT THE END OF CONSTRUCTION.
AND IF THEY'VE DAMAGED THE COUNTY ROAD, THEN WE CAN CALL IN THAT ESCROW, TAKE IT FROM THE ESCROW ACCOUNT.
SO I'D LIKE TO PUT THOSE INTO THE REGS.
WE'RE NOT VOTING TODAY, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT ME PUTTING THAT IN THERE, YOU KNOW, JUST WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LET ME KNOW OR SOMETHING BETTER THAN, UH, DID DOING THAT PRELIMINARY AND FINAL EVALUATION.
IS THERE SOMETHING BETTER THAN JUST DOING A PICTURE? WELL, I MEAN, I KNOW THERE'S TECHNOLOGY OUT THERE FOR, UM, LIKE SCANNING DEVICES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, IF YOU HAD, IF YOU, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, I CAN CHECK WITH TMP ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE A ENGINEER ON STAFF THAT HAS THAT EQUIPMENT WHERE THEY SHOOT THAT SONAR OR WHATEVER, OR THEY, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE COULD DISCUSS RIGHT NOW MOST STANDARD IS THEY TAKE A VIDEO OF THE ROAD AND THEN THEY, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO DO, TO DO SONAR AGAIN? AND AT THE TOP OF THE ROAD SURFACES FAN, WHO'S GOING TO ARGUE WITH THEM.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY TEST ROADS.
THERE ISN'T THAT MAN, THERE IS A RECOGNIZED SYSTEM, UH, WHICH IS BASICALLY AN OPTICAL INVENTORY OF THE ROAD.
UM, WE USED IN PRECINCT FOUR TO HELP, UH, ESTABLISH OUR PRIORITY OF ROAD PROJECTS.
AND, UH, IT'S A, IT'S A SPECIALIZED VAN THAT IS ESSENTIALLY DRIVES THE, THE LENGTH OF THE ROAD.
UM, PHOTOGRAPHS, IT, GPS IS ANY MAJOR, UH, SURFACE DEFORMATIONS.
UH, EVEN IT CAN'T, IT CAN'T EVEN GPS POTHOLES.
SO, UH, UH, THAT TECHNOLOGY DOES EXIST IF WE WANTED TO.
BUT, UH, UM, HE USED THEM, WE DID USE HIM, I HAVE HEARD TALK THAT, UM, SOME, SOME COUNTIES, THEY TURN IN A PICTURE OR THEY TURN IN A VIDEO THAT THEY MADE.
AND THEN AFTERWARDS THEY TURN IN THEIR VIDEO AND IN THE VIDEO IN THE BEGINNING, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE REALLY SLOW AND NICE.
AND THEN IN THE END IT'S LIKE SUPER FAST.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, I'M LIKE, WE DON'T WANT TO TRUST THEM TO DO THAT.
W WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO DO THAT.
AND SO IF WE WANT TO DO THAT, WE CAN FIGURE THAT PROCESS OUT.
BUT I JUST KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD A LOT OF, UM, PROBLEMS WITH THE ROADS DUE TO CONCRETE TRUCKS, LUMBER TRUCKS, THE DEVELOPERS ARE COMING IN AND BUILDING, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT AND CROSSING OVER COUNTY ROADS.
AND THERE, YOU GUYS ARE LEFT WITH PAYING THE BILL.
THE PROCESS WAS IF WE HAD SOMETHING AND I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS, OTHER THAN JUST WHAT I'VE READ, BUT IF WE HAD SOMETHING WHERE THE TECHNOLOGY WAS MORE PROVEN AND MORE, MORE SCIENTIFIC, THAT IT MIGHT, IT MIGHT SAVE A LOT OF ARGUMENT BETWEEN
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THE COMMISSIONER AND THE WHOEVER'S DOING THE CONSTRUCTION.AND WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT TECHNOLOGY, WHAT IT WOULD COST AND IMPLEMENT BOTH AT THE SAME TIME.
THE COMPLICATING FACTOR IS THAT IT'S A, IT'S A CONTINUOUS PROCESS.
SO, UM, WE HAVE, WE HAVE INSTANCES WHERE A DEVELOPMENT WAS, WAS HISTORICALLY APPROVED.
THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, 15, 18, 20 LOTS ARE SOLD TO INDIVIDUAL BUILDERS AND THE DEVELOPERS LONG GONE, AND THREE OF THE LOTS ON ONE END OF THE ROAD START AND TO WEIGH DOWN ON THE OTHER, AND THESE SIT IDLE FOR SIX, EIGHT MONTHS, AND THE TRUCKS COME, UH, YOU KNOW, HUGE CONCRETE TRUCKS, ROCK TRUCKS, UH, HEAVY EQUIPMENT, UH, AND, AND THE ROAD IS CONSTANTLY, UM, UH, BASICALLY ASSAULTED BY ALL THIS OVERWEIGHT EQUIPMENT THAT THE ROADS WERE NEVER ENVISIONED FOR.
SO SOMEHOW WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT IN OUR AGREEMENT, AND I BELIEVE ME, I'M, I'M A PROPONENT OF THIS, IT'S, IT IS A, IT'S A CONTINUING AND RECURRING PROBLEM IN PRECINCT FOUR.
UH, AND THE RESIDENTS ARE TIRED OF IT.
PEOPLE THAT HAVE LIVED, UH, YOU KNOW, USED THAT ROAD FOR A LONG TIME OR LIVED ADJACENT TO IT, UM, YOU KNOW, WANT THEIR ROAD REPAIRED, UH, THE NATURE OF THE ROAD THAT WE BUILD, UH, IN THIS COUNTY TYPICALLY, UM, IF I BUILT IT TODAY, SIX MONTHS FROM NOW, THE ROAD WOULD BE DESTROYED.
AND THEN THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO CONTROL ON HOW LONG THAT ROAD OR THAT AREA IS GOING TO REMAIN UNDER CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE THERE MAY BE 20, 30 LOTS, AND THEY, ALL THE BUILDERS ARE ALL INDEPENDENT, THEY'RE ALL SEPARATE.
AND THEY ALL, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVE DIFFERENT TIME SCHEDULES.
SO, YOU KNOW, EVEN, EVEN, UH, UH, COUNTY ROAD 41 16 IS THE CLASSIC EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, IN GASTONIA, LITERALLY WE ARE ON THAT ROAD ALMOST EVERY WEEK, IF NOT EVERY COUPLE OF WEEKS, JUST TRYING TO KEEP IT PASSABLE.
UH, AND WE'RE IN THAT, THAT CIRCUMSTANCE.
SO THIS NEEDS TO BE A, UH, IT IT'S A NEED AND IT NEEDS TO BE, UH, ESTABLISHED UPFRONT, BUT IT ALSO, UM, IT NEEDS TO BE, UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE COULD SCOPE IT OR ARE TERM LIMITED OR SOMETHING, BUT IT, IT NEEDS TO BE A LIVING SORT OF AGREEMENT BECAUSE, UM, IF, IF THIS DEVELOPMENT IN THIS CASE HAS GONE ON, SINCE I'VE BEEN IN OFFICE FOR TWO YEARS, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO ONE SET TIME WHERE, OKAY, WELL NOW THEY'RE ALL DONE.
AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE CAN HIT THE ESCROW ACCOUNT TO RE TO, UH, RESTORE THE ROAD BECAUSE THE ROAD IS IN CONSTANT DISREPAIR.
AND IF YOU'LL NOTICE ON THAT AGREEMENT, THERE'S A TERM.
AND THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO EXTEND THAT TERM IF THEY WERE GOING TO.
SO THEY'RE GOING TO TELL US HOW LONG THEIR CONSTRUCTION IS GOING TO LAST.
AND IF THEY EXCEED THAT AMOUNT, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME AND DO AN EXTENSION.
AND HOW HOW'S THAT GONNA WORK? WHEN, YOU KNOW, AS WE HAVE THESE KINDS OF DEVELOPERS WHO DEVELOP A PLOT OF GROUND, AND THEN EVERY LOT, THE DEVELOPER HAS SOLD EVERY LOT TO INDIVIDUAL BUILDERS.
AND NOW THE DEVELOPER IS HISTORY, BUT WE'RE GOING TO GET IT FROM THE BUILDER BECAUSE WHEN THEY COME TO GET THE COVERT PERMIT, THAT'S WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THAT.
SO, SO THE INDIVIDUAL BUILDER IS GOING TO BE, UH, IS GONNA ATTACH TO THIS ROAD TO THE INITIAL ROAD USE DEGREE.
THAT'S HOW I ENVISION IT IS THAT WHEN THEY COME FOR THEIR CULVERTS, THEN THEY BOUGHT FIVE LOTS, RIGHT? THEY NEED FIVE CULVERTS TO LEAVE THE COUNTY ROAD.
SO WHEN THEY ASKED FOR FIVE CULVERTS, OUR NEXT QUESTION IS, ARE YOU DEVELOPING? ARE YOU BUILT? ARE YOU A BUILDER? ARE YOU BUILDING ON THIS LAND? IF THEY ARE, THEN THAT'S WHEN THE ROAD AGREEMENT'S GOING TO COME AND PLACE FOR THEM.
YEAH, BUT THE DEVELOPER, THE INITIAL DEVELOPER IS ALSO GOING TO HAVE THE, HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO EXECUTE A ROAD, USE AGREEMENT AS WELL.
THERE IS NO, THERE IS NO AGREEMENT BECAUSE IF THE GENTLEMAN IS PLATTING AND CUTTING OUT 15 LOTS AND SELLING BLANK, LOTS, WHAT IF THIS IS ONE HOUSE THAT YOU MADE? IF A PERSON'S GOING TO BUILD ONE HOUSE, THEY'VE GOT TO COME TO THE COUNTY AND GET A ROAD AGREEMENT AND PUT UP SOME KIND OF BOND, THE DRIVE ON THE ROAD TO BUILD A HOUSE.
WELL, I MEAN, CAUSE WHAT I'M TELLING YOU IS HE DID SAID THE DEVELOPER MAKES IT, HE MAKES HIM 120 LOTS.
I HAVE ONE RIGHT NOW, 116 LOTS.
EACH PERSON HAS A DIFFERENT DEVELOPER.
SO THERE'S 41 DIFFERENT BUILDERS.
I MEAN, THERE'S JUST INDIVIDUALS THAT GO OUT AND HIRE A BUILDER.
WELL, FOR ONE, I GUESS I CAN SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS I MADE IT.
AND THAT'S WHAT HE WAS SAYING.
HE'S SAYING THERE'S ONE CONTRACT.
AND IF, EVEN IF THESE ARE PRIVATE STREETS, THESE ARE PRIVATE STREETS.
WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A CONTRACT ON THEM.
SO, BUT WE DO THE JOINING ROAD.
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YOU JUST BUILT A DEVELOPMENT ON A COUNTY ROAD, BUT YOU ONLY HAD ONE OR TWO STREETS AND ENTERED INTO IT.SO YOU, SO TO THOSE IN THE, DEVELOPER'S GONE, IF THEY WANT ACCESS FROM THAT DEVELOPMENT TO YOUR ROAD, THAT'S WHEN THEY NEED TO DEVELOP THE DEVELOPER IN THE LOOP.
BECAUSE WE GO, ONCE HE SELLS THE LOTS HE'S DONE RIGHT AT THE MONEY AHEAD OF TIME THEN, WELL, I, I AM, I AM WHAT HAPPENED? UM, I'M MAKING THEM PAY UPFRONT, BUT THE, BUT THE PROBLEM IS HOW DO YOU MAKE IT AS A DIFFERENT ISSUE? I MEAN, HE'S, HE'S HAS THIS BY, UH, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST ONE PHONE LIKE ME, HE HAS IT 50 FOLD, OWNS SMALL DEVELOPERS THAT ARE BILLING A 50 LOTS OR 25 LOTS OR WHATEVER OFF OF ONE ROAD THAT HE'S CUT INTO DEVELOPMENT THEN, BUT NOT EVEN BECOME A COUNTY ROAD, BUT HE'S ENTERED INTO ONE ROAD ON THE COUNTY ROAD.
SO, I MEAN, YOU'RE REALLY GETTING INTO A REAL DEEP, I MEAN, IT'S, I KNOW IT'S TOUGH AND WE WANT THE ROADS FAKE AND WE WANT TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO FIX THEM.
BUT ALSO YOU DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT SO CUMBERSOME THAT YOU CAN'T EVEN KEEP UP WITH.
I DON'T, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO SPEND MORE MONEY AND TIME AND EFFORT AND EVEN KEEP UP WITH IT.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IT NEEDS TO BE TIED TO THE ORIGINAL PLAT AGREEMENT THAT IF A DEVELOPER COMES IN AND CUTS THESE, YOU KNOW, LET, LET AGAIN, LET'S TAKE 41 16.
UM, I FORGET THE NUMBER OF LOTS, BUT LET'S SAY 30 LOTS OUT THERE.
SO THAT INDIVIDUAL DEVELOPER IS REALLY THE, THAT'S THE PIVOT POINT FOR EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING TO TAKE PLACE.
AND IF, IF THE DEVELOPER IS RESPONSIBLE TO POST THE BOND FOR A ROAD USE AGREEMENT, HE THEN HAS THE ABILITY TO PASS THAT COST ONTO HIS BUILDERS AS HE MARKETS THE LOTS INDIVIDUALLY.
LET THEM DEAL WITH IT AND NOT COLLECT THE BOND MONEY BACK NECESSARILY.
AND JUST SIT THERE UNTIL THE END OF THE DEVELOPMENT COMPLETELY FOOLISH.
THEN I GUESS THE DEVELOPER COULD RECEIVE IT BACK OR YOU PAY PHASE FOR THE ROADMAP ROAD, YOU KNOW, AS DEVELOPMENTS GOING ON AND THE ROAD IS, UH, IS DETERIORATING BECAUSE OF THE BUILDERS EXCESSIVE USE.
I WANT TO BE ABLE TO DIP INTO THAT BOND AND SAY, TODAY WE, YOU TODAY WE PUT OUT 144 TONS OF, OF RAF.
AND SO I WANT, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO RECLAIM THAT BECAUSE OTHERWISE THE, THE COUNTY AND THE RESIDENTS, UH, YOU KNOW, THE CONSTITUENTS IN PRECINCT FOR THEIR ROAD WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN TORN UP.
BUT FOR ALL THIS NEW CONSTRUCTION, CORRECT, WE WERE DEAD.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE AN OPEN DISCUSSION IS LIKE, HOW DO WE WANT TO APPROACH THIS? BECAUSE WE DO HAVE BOND IS ANY DAY.
I MEAN, WE'RE GOING THROUGH THAT RIGHT NOW WITH OURS.
AND WE'VE GOT A TWO-YEAR BOND.
THE BUILDER PROBABLY WILL STILL BE BUILDING AT THE END OF TWO YEARS.
AND SO, UH, WE'RE HAVING TO REPAIRS LIKE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, AND THAT THEY PUT, THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ANSWER OF THE BOND, YOU KNOW? SO I MEAN, HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT WHENEVER THEY DO, LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE WHITE, YOU KNOW, MIGHT BE TWO YEARS BEFORE SOMEONE GETS THE MONEY.
IS THOSE, UH, BUILDERS TO BUILD THEIR HOMES OR SELL THE LIVES AND THE ESCROW VERSUS THE BOX, RIGHT? YOU HAVE AN ESCROW FUND PUT UP AND BASICALLY OVER THERE, WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING IS JUST DEVELOPMENT.
I JUST BEEN MAKING THEM BY THE ROAD AND I'M NOT FINISHING THE ROAD SO FAST THAT MAYBE THE TIME THAT I FINISHED ROAD, THE DEVELOPMENT BEAT FINISHED, BUT NOT NECESSARILY, BUT YOU KNOW, HE'S PAID FOR THE ROAD.
SO I GUESS THEY'VE DESTROYED IT.
BUT THERE'S JUST NOT MUCH I CAN DO.
IT'S SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO EAT, TO EAT SOME OF THAT COST.
IF YOU HAVE TO, THAT'S JUST THE WAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IT HAPPENS.
YEAH, BECAUSE ONCE YOU GET PAST THAT LIMIT, NOT GETTING ANYTHING RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE NOT GETTING, BUT YOU'RE NOT GETTING ANYTHING DOWN.
AND, AND SO I THINK, UH, MR. GATES HAS RIGHT THERE, YOU KNOW, AND WE PUT IT IN A ESCROW, NOT A BOND, AN ACTUAL ESCROW ACCOUNT SAYING THIS IS MONEY.
THIS IS FOR REPAIR ON THIS ROAD DURING THE CONSTRUCTION TIME.
AND WE'RE GOING TO USE THAT MONEY UP.
I DON'T SAY YOU GET ANY OF IT BACK.
THIS IS THE BUILD THAT, THAT, THAT NEIGHBORHOOD OUT, THIS, THE HEALTH, AND YOU'VE GOT IT.
AND HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO ESTIMATE THE COST OF HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO TAKE AND HOW MUCH ROAD REPAIR IS GOING TO HAVE TO DO.
THAT'S ABOUT THE ONLY WAY YOU'LL BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY DO IT.
WELL, THE WAY OUR REGULATIONS READ IS IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE COUNTY, EXCEPT THOSE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS, THEN YOU WOULD DO A WARRANTY BOND.
BUT A ROAD AGREEMENT IS A LINE OF ESCROW.
SO THERE'S TWO SEPARATE FACTORS,
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BUT I MEAN, YOU CAN REPAIR IT THE WHOLE TIME DURING THE THING IN THE BOND THAT WORK THAT WAY, YOU CAN'T TAKE MONEY OUT OF A BOND.AND EVERYBODY'S GOING TO BE COMPLAINING FOR THE TWO YEARS OR THREE YEARS THAT IT'S GOING TO WORK AND HIS NAME OR MY NAME OR, OR, OR MIKE'S NAME OR WHATEVER.
WHOEVER IS GOING TO BE MUD FOR THREE YEARS, IF WE CAN'T WORK ON IT.
SO DO YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE REGS IN THE DEVELOPERS PORTION FOR A LINE OF ESCROW INSTEAD OF A WARRANTY BOND UNDER THAT, UNDER THAT SECTION, BOTH THINGS YOU COULD HAVE ALMOST BOTH OF THEM.
OKAY, MOM, THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'RE GONNA RE THEY'RE GONNA RECEIVE THAT BACK.
UNLESS THEY DO SOMETHING NEGLIGENT.
IF THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING NEGLIGENT, THEY GOT AN ARGUMENT FAIR WEAR AND TEAR.
IT'S LIKE RENTING PROPERTY FROM SOMEBODY.
IF IT'S FAIR WEAR AND TEAR ON THE FLOORS IN THE BONE, YOU DON'T OWN FOR THAT.
THIS IS WEAR AND TEAR, RIGHT? SAME THING ON THE ROAD.
THAT'S FAIR WEAR AND TEAR OF JUST NORMAL TRAFFIC.
I MEAN, BECAUSE OTHER PEOPLE ARE USING THAT ROAD TOO, NOT JUST, NOT JUST THEM.
RIGHT? AND SO, UNLESS YOU PROVE THAT THE ACTUAL TRUCKS HAS ACTUALLY DONE THE DAMAGE BY THEIRSELF, BUT WE KNOW, WE KNOW THAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO MORE DAMAGE BECAUSE THEY ARE USING HEAVIER VEHICLES.
SO SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE, SOMEBODY NEEDS TO PAY UPFRONT FOR THE MEASUREMENT OF FELON IN THESE PLACES THAT THE SAME MEANT TRUCKS, YOU CAN ALWAYS TELL BECAUSE THEY RIDE IN THE RIGHT LANE, GOING IN THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, IT'S GOING TO BE WORSE THAN A SIDE COMING OUT.
AND THEN AMAZING THIS SIDE OVER HERE HAS IT, RIGHT? SO THE CAR TRAFFIC COMING OUT NOW WE'VE PROVEN SOMETHING, THE CAR TRAFFIC'S NOT REALLY DESTROYING THE ROAD OR THE EMPTY TRUCKS, BUT THE HEAVY ONES GOING INTO THE PROJECT, EXACT JOIN IT.
WELL, AT LEAST THAT'S WHY I PHOTOGRAPH AND, AND, AND VIDEOTAPED THE ROAD.
I GO TO HIM AND I SAY, LOOK, SEE WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
AND THEY ALL STOP WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU PASS YOUR EXIT, GUESS WHAT? THE LANES NOT CAVING IN NO MORE.
SO GUESS WHAT? SO FAR, I'VE BEEN PRETTY LUCKY.
I'VE RAISED A LOT OF MONEY AND THE ENGINEERS, AND THEY REPAIR MY ROADS FROM THE DEVELOPERS, BUT THEY'RE NOT IN THE SAME SITUATION.
THEY DON'T HAVE A GREAT BIG MONDAY.
WELL, THEY GOT PART OF IT, YOU KNOW, A MEAN HEARTLAND AND THINGS.
IF THEY WERE ON THE COUNTY ROAD, THEY PROBABLY WERE OBVIOUSLY THERE ON FM ROAD.
AND, UH, AN ASPHALT COMPANY SAY, WELL, WHERE'S THE DEVELOPERS PART OF HIS RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE WE'RE JUST DOING WHAT HE'S PAID US TO DO.
YOU KNOW, AND THAT BOND WAS FROM THE ASPHALT COMPANY THAT ACTUALLY LAID THE ASPHALT.
SO THAT'S WHAT RAISED ALL THESE QUESTIONS BETWEEN.
SO THE REASON WE'RE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION IS BECAUSE I'LL NEED FEEDBACK SO THAT WE CAN COVER OURSELVES.
WE CAN WORK THE ISSUE, TRY TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO GO ABOUT IT.
BUT I WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT I'VE HEARD THAT THESE ARE OUR PROBLEMS AND I WANT TO TRY AND PUT THEM INTO OUR REGS.
THE MAIN THING TWO IS WHATEVER WE DECIDE TO DO, MAKE SURE IT CARRIES OVER BECAUSE I MIGHT NOT BE HERE.
I'M NOT, I'M NOT GO IN AND SAY, YOU PUT THIS MUCH MONEY BACK IN ESCROW.
AND THEN THE NEXT GUY COMES IN AND SAYS, I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT.
YOU KNOW? SO WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HELD ACCOUNTABLE ON OUR SIDE FOR THE PROMISES MADE BY SOMEONE THAT COMES BEFORE US.
STUFF LIKE THAT, TECHNOLOGY THAT KEN DID USED, AND THE DEVELOPERS PAY FOR THAT.
DO I MEAN, THAT'S ALL PART OF WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW.
YOU KNOW, THEY START DOING WHAT THEY'RE DOING, SO THEY, THEY SHOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT.
AND WE CAN GET DOWN TO, THIS IS, THIS IS MY TWO BITS ON THAT.
I THINK THE TECHNOLOGY IS GREAT.
THIS IS WHERE THE TECHNOLOGY CAN SURE.
WORK AGAINST YOU WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO GET SOMEBODY TO REPAIR DAMAGE.
COMMISSIONER, YOU REMEMBER WHEN WE HAD TROUBLE WITH THE LITTLE DIFFERENT CITIES, GETTING THE MONEY, WHEN YOU, EVERYBODY WOULD DO REPAIRS FOR THEM, WE HAD THE LEE HAD LEGAL DRAW UP THE FORM AND MAKE IT WHERE THE RIGHT PEOPLE WERE INVOLVED.
MAYBE THAT COULD HAPPEN WITH THIS.
AND THEN WE COULD SET UP ESCROW ON ADAMS JUST FOR THAT STUFF LIKE WE DID THE OTHER NIGHT.
SO WE'LL, WE'LL KIND OF WORK THE PROCESS.
I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF YOU GUYS WERE ON BOARD TO COME UP WITH A PROCESS AND PUT THAT INTO THE REGS.
AND THEN I WOULD BRING THAT BACK, UM, TO INSERT IT INTO THE REGULATION.
WE CAN SIMPLIFY THIS AND SAY, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD A DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS GOING TO GRIND UP YOUR ROAD, WE'LL MAKE IT WHITE ROCK.
WHENEVER YOU'RE, WHENEVER YOU GET TO RUN ALL THE BIG TRUCKS, YOU'LL JUST PUT A NEW ROAD IN, RIGHT.
WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU A TEMPORARY ROAD TILL YOU'RE DONE.
I'LL GIVE YOU THE, I'LL GIVE YOU THE SPECIFICS
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ON THAT ON THE COMPANY THAT DOES, IT'S A, IT'S A VERY WELL-KNOWN STATEWIDE COMPANY THAT THEY WERE DOING A LOT OF WORK FOR TXDOT AND IT'S, IT'S ESSENTIALLY A HIGH REZ CAMERA SYSTEM THAT, THAT PROVIDES A ROUGHNESS INDEX AND SURFACE DEFAMATION, UH, AND IT'S LICENSE.JUST CURIOUS, WHAT CAN DRIVE THIS DRUG? SO, NO, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE ALONE.
THEY, THE CONTRACTOR, IT'S HIS EQUIPMENT.
THEY DO IT AND THEY PROVIDE YOU A, A SHAPE FILE.
I JUST WANTED YOUR GUYS' OPINION.
[7. Workshop; Randy/Monique; Discuss changes to the Kaufman County Subdivision and Land Use Regulations as well as incorporating fire flow requirements.]
UM, I NEED TO AMEND THE FEE SCHEDULE IF YOU ADOPTED THE, UH, WELL, WE HAVE THE FIRE FLOW REVIEW.AND SO IN OUR REGULATIONS, IT ALSO SAYS THE TMP WILL REVIEW FIRE BLOW.
AND SO, UM, THAT JUST GIVES YOU SECOND EYES ON IT.
IF YOU WERE COMFORTABLE WITH IT, THEY HAVE THAT STANDARDIZED FLAT RATE FEE.
ALSO, UM, WE HAVE DEVELOPERS THAT REQUEST TO MEET WITH OUR CONSULTING ENGINEER FROM W UM, IN PERSON, INSTEAD OF THEM RELAYING THE INFORMATION TO US, WE FORWARDING IT TO THEM.
THEY HAVE IN THE PAST, THEY'VE CALLED SEVERAL MEETINGS WHERE THEY WANT TO SIT DOWN WITH THE ENGINEER AND WORK THROUGH SOME OF THEIR PROBLEMS WITH THEIR CIVIL PLANS.
AND SO WE DIDN'T HAVE A STANDARD FEE FOR THAT.
AND SO WHEN THE DEVELOPER REQUESTS THAT EITHER BY IN-PERSON ZOOM, WE'VE JUST ADDED IT TO THIS FEE CHART.
IT WILL BE, THE DEVELOPER WILL KNOW UPFRONT THAT, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE COSTS ARE ABSORBED BY THE DEVELOPER DOESN'T COST THE COUNTY ANYTHING, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS LAID OUT FOR THEM SO THAT THEY KNOW IF YOU'RE CALLING AN IN-PERSON ONE-ON-ONE MEETING WITH THE CONSULTING ENGINEER FIRM, THEN THERE WILL BE A FEE FOR THAT.
WHEN WOULD YOU HAVE $400 THERE? RIGHT.
IT'S A FLAT RATE IF IT'S THREE HOURS OR FIVE HOURS OR WHATEVER, IT'S THE FLAT RATE.
AND OUR ENGINEERS ARE GOING TO GO ALONG WITH THAT.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN? OUR CONSULTING ENGINEERS DECIDE THAT FEE.
SO IF THEY DRIVE TO KAUFMAN COUNTY, COME HERE, MEET WITH THAT ENGINEER THREE HOURS TO FLAT RATE.
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, BECAUSE THEY CHARGE US BY THE HOUR.
AND THEN IF YOU DO THAT AND THEY TAKE UP, NO, I'VE WORKED OUT TWO DAYS IN 30 HOURS, THEN THEY GOT OFF.
BUT WHEN I'M WORKING WITH THE PLATTING, THEY'VE AGREED TO DO FLAT RATES FOR ME.
SO I WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, JUST SO THAT IT KEEP IT SIMPLE AND I CAN PUT IT ONTO THE FEE SHEET.
IF YOU'RE DOING A SCOPE OF WORK THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE SUBDIVISION THAT YOU WOULD DO THE HOURLY.
CAUSE IT WASN'T IN THEIR CONTRACT.
THEY'RE GOING TO COME OVER AND STRAIGHTENED IT OUT.
BRIGHTEN IT OUT SO WE CAN GET IT THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT OTHER THINGS OUTSIDE OF I'LL MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THE PLATTING.
AND THEN THE LAST THING IS OUR FLOW CHART WOULD HAVE TO BE AMENDED OF COURSE, BECAUSE WE'VE CHANGED SORT OF SOME ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES INSIDE OF THE OFFICE.
WE HAVE A PRE-DEVELOPMENT QUESTIONNAIRE.
SO WE DON'T ANSWER QUESTIONS OVER THE TELEPHONE.
I GOT MY MOM AND I WANT TO MOVE HER ONTO MY LAND, BUT WE DON'T GET ALL THIS FACTS.
SO WE CREATED A PRE-DEVELOPMENT QUESTIONNAIRE.
UM, THEY HAVE TO COMPLETELY FILL OUT AND SUBMIT TO US, WHICH, UM, JERRY HELPED US MAKE THAT ALL FILLABLE AND THEY CAN SUBMIT RIGHT TO THE EMAIL.
WE CHECK FOR FLOOD PLAIN JURISDICTION, WHETHER OR NOT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S BEEN ILLEGALLY SUBDIVIDED.
SO THAT PROCESS HAS NOW BEEN INCLUDED INTO THE FLOW CHART.
UM, WE THAT'S THAT STAFF REVIEW WAS THE SECOND.
THEN WE SCHEDULE A PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING AT THE PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING IS WHEN WE INVITE THE COMMISSIONERS AND TXDOT AND ALL THE PEOPLE INVOLVED THAT COULD HAVE SOME RISK OR SOME, UH, NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT TO A PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING, THEY GET ALL THEIR QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
WE'VE INCORPORATED THAT ALSO, UM, UM, JUST MADE IT SIMPLER FOR THE EVERYDAY PERSON OUT THERE WHO HAD TROUBLE READING OUR RIGS OR LOOKING AT THAT FLOW CHART.
SO WE JUST MADE A SIMPLER ONE AND WE'LL INSERT THAT INTO THE PAGE AND IT'LL BE FRONT AND BACK.
SO YOU'LL HAVE THE ONE WITH ROADS, ONE WITHOUT ONE WITH INFRASTRUCTURE AND PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS AND ONE WITHOUT.
SO I'LL BE BRINGING THESE BACK.
I JUST WANTED YOUR OPINION ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU GUYS THOUGHT BEFORE I MOVE FORWARD OR DO EXTRA WORK.
I DON'T NEED TO, YOU KNOW, CAUSE SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL ANSWER THEM.
OTHERWISE I'LL BE COMING BACK FOR THESE AMENDMENTS.
I'M WATCHING THE HOUSE BILL, UH, UM, IT'S 42.
SO THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT LETTING, UM, US REGULATE RV PARKS AND IT WOULD FALL UNDER THE MANUFACTURED HOME RENTAL COMMUNITY SLASH RV PARKS.
SO WE'RE KEEPING AN EYE ON THAT BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES WITH RV PARKS, NOT HAVING TO COMPLY WITH THE LAW.
SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP.
[10. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider exiting workshop and enter back into regular meeting.]
SO THAT GETS US DOWN TO 10, WHICH IS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER EXITING A WORKSHOP AND ENTER BACK INTO RIGOR MEETING.[01:00:01]
SO I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.SECOND ONE COMMISSIONER BARBARA DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
[11. Randy/Monique; Discuss/consider accepting changes to the Kaufman County Fire Code replacing Appendix B with ISO formula as discussed in workshop.]
ITEM 11, RANDY AND MONIQUE DISCUSS, CONSIDER ACCEPTING CHANGES TO THE KAUFMAN COUNTY FIRE CODE, REPLACING APPENDIX B WITH ISO FORMULA AS DISCUSSION WORKSHOP QUESTIONS.IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.
YOU MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CHANGES THAT'S FROM COMMISSIONER HUNT.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES
[12. Randy/Monique; Discuss/consider accepting changes to the.Kaufman County Subdivision and Land Use Regulations as discussed in workshop.]
ITEM 12 DISCUSSED, CONSIDER ACCEPTING CHANGES TO THE KAUFMAN COUNTY SUBDIVISION IN LANDIS' REGULATIONS AS DISCUSSED IN THE WORKSHOP.UM, NONE OF THIS PERTAINS TO THE ROAD ISSUE THAT WE WERE DISCUSSING.
SO IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CHANGES, THE DISCUSSION THAT WE'RE GOING TO WORKSHOP? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
WE HAVE A MOTION COMMISSIONER.
BARBARA, IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER CAGE DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
[13. Jerry Dean; Discuss/Consider approving the Kaufman County tuition reimbursement policy.]
ITEM 13.UH, JERRY DEAN DISCUSS CONSIDER APPROVING THE KAUFMAN COUNTY TUITION REIMBURSEMENT POLICY DRIVES COMMISSIONERS.
SO AFTER QUITE A BIT OF WORK, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS DISCUSSED EARLY ON IN BUDGET WORKSHOPS ABOUT HOW WE CAN IMPLEMENT THIS PROGRAM.
UH, WE'VE SEARCHED THROUGH TAC AND SEVERAL PEER COUNTIES AND CAME UP WITH WHAT WE BELIEVE IS A GOOD FIT FOR KAUFMAN COUNTY.
SO I'LL JUST TALK ABOUT THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE PROGRAM.
SO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT WOULD ESTABLISH THAT ANNUAL AMOUNT TO GO INTO A FUND THAT WOULD BE USED FOR TUITION REIMBURSEMENT.
UH, THAT POOL WOULD BE SHARED BY ALL THE APPLICANTS THAT APPLY THROUGH AN APPLICATION PROCESS.
WE DO HAVE A LIMIT OF $3,000 MAXIMUM PER APPLICANT PER FISCAL YEAR.
UH, THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A PASSING GRADE, SO A HUNDRED PERCENT REIMBURSEMENT OF THE POOL PIECE FOR AN A 80% FOR A B 70% FOR A C UH, FOR GRADUATE WORK AND TO BE AN A OR B ONLY, UH, AND THE PROCESS OF DOING THIS, THE JUDGE AND I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO MEET WITH TEXAS A AND M COMMERCE.
UH, THEY HAVE A GREAT PROGRAM ESTABLISHED THAT WORKS WITH GOVERNMENTS, UH, AND A GREAT ONLINE SCHOOL.
SO WE BELIEVE THERE'S GREAT OPPORTUNITIES FOR SUPPORT AND HEALTH OR HELP.
WE'VE ALSO HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE, HAVE BRIEF CONVERSATIONS WITH, WITH TRINITY VALLEY COMMUNITY COLLEGE, WHO WAS ALSO WILLING TO SUPPORT AND HELP GET PEOPLE THROUGH THE PROCESS.
SO MY PROPOSAL IS ASKING THAT WE START THE SEED MONEY, UH, WITH $15,000, WE HAVE THE FUNDS I'VE CONFIRMED WITH THE AUDITOR.
UH, WE GET MONEY, UM, THROUGH REBATES, THROUGH BUYBOARD, UH, THOSE GO INTO AN EMPLOYEE WELFARE ACCOUNT.
UH, WE HAVE THE MONEY THIS YEAR TO AFFORD A $15,000 STARTUP, UH, FOR THE POOL.
WE'D GET THE APPLICATION PROCESS OUT TO EVERYBODY AND THEN EVERY BUDGET CYCLE, THEN WE WOULD, REDISCUSS WHAT THAT POOL NEEDS TO LOOK LIKE.
SO THOSE ARE THE HIGHLIGHTS AND I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION THAT WE LEARNED IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH A TEXAS, A AND M COMMERCE AND TURNY VALLEY IS THAT, AND THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WORRIED ABOUT.
JERRY AND I WORRIED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT IS ADMINISTERING HOW THIS ALL WORKS.
IF SOMEBODY IS ACCEPTED THAT THEY MAKE APPLICATION, THEY'RE ACCEPTED INTO THE PROGRAM, WE JUST SEND THEM TO EAST, TEXAS, OR TEXAS A M COMMERCE, OR WE SEND THEM TO THE VALLEY OR WHOEVER ELSE WE MIGHT BE PARTNERING WITH LATER.
WE DON'T GET INVOLVED IN ANY OF THAT.
ALL WE DO IS THEY COME BACK WITH US WITH THEIR SCORES AND THEN WE JUST REIMBURSE THEM.
SO WE DON'T, WE LEAVE IT UP TO THE PROFESSIONALS TO MANAGE THE, HOW THAT ALL WORKS.
SO WHEN DID HE JUST MAKE IT THAT WE DON'T LIMIT IT TO JUST THOSE SCHOOLS? EXACTLY.
SO THOSE ARE JUST SCHOOLS THAT WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THAT ARE REGIONALLY LOCATED.
WELL, WE WOULDN'T LIMIT IT TO THOSE SCHOOLS, ANY SCHOOL.
I MEAN, THE WAY OUR SYSTEM IS SET UP, IT DOESN'T MATTER TO US.
ANY SCHOOL WOULD BE INCLUDING TRADE SCHOOLS.
AND THEY'RE GOING TO APPLY FOR THAT LOCATION.
THEY ARE BEFORE THE TIME LIMIT.
SO THAT WAY THE BUDGETS IN THIS YEAR FOR THIS ABSOLUTELY.
I HAVE TIMETABLE SET IN HERE WHEN WE NEED THE APPLICATION SUITE, WE KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT AND ARE THEY GOING TO PAY UP FRONT AND WE'RE GOING TO REIMBURSE CORRECT.
AND IT WOULD BE A FIRST COME FIRST RIGHT BASIS, BUILD A POOL UNTIL YOU HAD TO FOLLOW.
I GUESS, YOU KNOW, WE COULD, IF YOU HAD A HUNDRED APPLICANTS ON $15,000, IT WOULD BE KIND OF MUTE, YOU KNOW? SO I THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE SOME, SOME JUDGMENT ABOUT WHERE WE CUT OFF THE APPLICATION AT SOME POINT OR A LOTTERY DRAWING AND THE LOTTERY.
I MEAN, I'M, I'M PART OF THAT.
I THINK THIS IS A GREAT BENEFIT FOR, FOR EMPLOYEES.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVE HOURS AND ARE LOOKING TO FINISH A DEGREE AND WITH THE WAY EDUCATION IS NOW
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WITH BOTH ONLINE AND DISTANCE ED AND THEN ADVANCEMENTS IN TECHNOLOGY, THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.WE HAD THIS EXACT PROGRAM, THE CITY OF IRVING AND MY WIFE ACTUALLY COMPLETED HERS TODAY IN THEM DOING THAT.
AND THEY REIMBURSE HER FOR, SO IT WAS PRETTY AWESOME DEAL.
JUST, JUST AS AN FYI FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT RIGHT NOW AT TEXAS A AND M COMMERCE HAS A PROGRAM THAT IF YOU ALREADY HAVE YOUR CERTIFIED PEACE OFFICER, THEY AUTOMATICALLY GIVE YOU 30 HOURS.
AND THEIR PROGRAM IS SIX WEEK COURSES AT $750.
AND THEY'RE OFFERING A DISCOUNT DOWN TO $450 FOR THOSE COURSES.
SO A PRETTY ACCELERATED COURSE TO GET AN UNDERGRADUATE AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE, SAM HOUSTON.
AND DO WE HAVE A REQUIREMENT THAT THE, THAT THE, WHATEVER THE, UH, THE CHOSEN SCHOOL IS BEING ACCREDITED, IT DOES, IT DOES WELL, THERE'S THERE'S PROCESSES AND ACCREDITED TO ESTABLISH.
YOU HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT PART OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS IS TO SUBMIT IN WRITING HOW THIS JOB, HOW THIS EDUCATION IS GOING TO HELP YOU IN YOUR JOB? SO WE WOULD HAVE, WE'D HAVE A PROCESS OF REVIEW.
UH, WE WOULDN'T HAVE THESE FUNDS AVAILABLE IF IT WEREN'T FOR THE EFFORTS OF THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT AND THE FACT THAT OUR EMPLOYEES ARE BOUGHT INTO USING PURCHASING IN, I MEAN, IN GOING THROUGH OUR PURCHASING PROCESS, GOING TO THE BIBLE WORD AND THOSE, IF THEY, IF WE WERE JUST DOING IT HELTER SKELTER, WE WOULDN'T HAVE THESE PHONES.
SO IT'S A GOOD THING FOR OUR EMPLOYEES TO BE TRAINED THE DEPARTMENT HEADS TO ME AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE USING THOSE PROCESSES NOW.
AND, AND THESE, THIS PROGRAM, THIS WAS ACTUALLY WRITTEN BEFORE WE RESTRUCTURED.
IT WAS, YEAH, I STARTED WORKING ON THIS WHEN I FIRST STARTED IN HR.
SO IT'S SIX,
THIS IS REALLY GOING TO BE USED SINCE WE HAVE THE ADMINISTRATOR IS HANDLING THE, THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESSES OF IT.
THERE'S NO SENSE PARDONING THIS AS WE RESTRUCTURED.
UM, I'D LIKE TO SET THIS UP IN A SEPARATE FUND FOR THE REASON I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO DO THE ACCOUNTING EVERY YEAR TO CARRY OVER A NUMBER.
AND IF IT WAS IN A SEPARATE FUND, IT'S ALREADY THERE.
I KNOW IT'S, HE DID A LOT OF PEOPLE.
DON'T LIKE US HAVING ALL THE FUNDS, BUT SOMETIMES IT'S NECESSARY TO KEEP ACCOUNT OF PEOPLE'S MONEY.
LIKE THOSE ESCROW ACCOUNTS, I CREATE A LIABILITY ACCOUNT AND IT SITS IN THERE WHERE Y'ALL NEVER SEE IT UNTIL YOU'RE READY TO MOVE IT.
I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT WITH THIS.
I WANT Y'ALL TO BE ABLE TO SEE, OH, WE HELP 10 PEOPLE THIS YEAR OR FIVE PEOPLE, WHOEVER IT IS.
UH, SO THE ACTION HERE WOULD BE TO APPROVE ALLOCATING $15,000 OF THAT.
UH BUYBOARD UH, THOSE BUYBOARD FUNDS AND CAME TO US FOR THIS TUITION REIMBURSEMENT POLICY.
IS THERE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT? MOTION WITH A MOTION COMMISSIONER BARBERS OR SECOND SEGMENT COMMISSIONER CAGE DISCUSSION THOSE IN SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES
[14. Commissioner Hunt; Discuss/Consider granting permission for Becker-Jiba SUD to bore on County Road 151.]
COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSS CONSIDERED GRANTING PERMISSION FOR BECCA HEBA SAID TO BORE UNDER COUNTY ROAD.ONE 51 IS JUST THE STANDARD APPLICATION FOR THE WATER CORPORATION TO PUT A WATER LINE UNDER OUR ROAD.
IS THERE A MOTION MAKE THAT MOTION? WE HAD A MOTION COMMISSIONER HUNT.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIP'S DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE OPPOSED.
[15. Commissioner Cates; Discuss/Consider options for disposing of county real estate.]
ITEM 15 COMMISSIONER CASE DISCUSS CONSIDER OPTIONS FOR DISPOSING OF COUNTY REAL ESTATE.SO THIS IS REALLY A, I WANTED TO BRING THIS UP FOR CONSIDERATION.
UM, UH, I KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME RECENT PRESENTATIONS REGARDING SOME OF THE, UM, SOME OF THE ANTICIPATED NEEDS FOR THE COUNTY, UH, SUCH AS, UH, UH, THE PENDING, UH, FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR THE JUVENILE DETENTION CENTER.
UH, I THINK LAST WEEK OR THE WEEK BEFORE WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE, THE POSSIBILITY OF, OF ENLARGING THE FOOTPRINT OF THE UNDERWAY JUSTICE CENTER.
SO, UH, AS, UH, AND THAT ALSO, UH, DOVETAILS TO THE REPORT WE HAD FROM HOK ON OUR FACILITIES.
UM, SO I'M SURE JUST LIKE, UH, EVERYBODY ELSE, I DO A LOT OF READING AND, AND, UH, IT, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE ARE REALLY RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF A BUYER'S MARKET.
UH, I THINK THAT, UM, THERE'S, UH, A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY ABOUT WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS FOR, FOR INVESTMENTS IN REAL ESTATE.
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ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO GO IN AND, UH, AND DO REALLY WELL WITH OUR BOND AT LOW INTEREST RATES.UM, I THINK THAT WE ARE SEEING IN OUR COUNTY THAT WE ARE REALLY IN A SELLERS MARKET AT THIS POINT.
AND, UM, WHILE THERE ARE SOME OPTIONS OR THERE ARE SOME OPINIONS, UH, UP AND DOWN ABOUT HOLLAND, HOW LONG THAT WILL LAST, I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT WAS WORTH BRINGING UP THE CONCEPT THAT WE GO AHEAD AND SINCE WE HAVE A, A REAL ESTATE, UM, SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT, UH, THAT WE'VE ALREADY, UH, UTILIZED IN THE PAST, I THOUGHT IT'D BE, UH, PROBABLY PRUDENT TO START THE PROCESS OF MARKETING, THE PIECES OF PROPERTY THAT THE COUNTY HAS NOW.
UM, GO AHEAD AND BEGIN AN ACTIVE MARKETING PROCESS IN AN EFFORT TO TRULY DETERMINE WHAT SORT OF RESOURCES, WHAT SORT OF, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, PROCEEDS THAT SOME OF THOSE PROPERTIES MIGHT HAVE, PARTICULARLY THE, THAT BLOCK OF PROPERTIES THAT ARE ALL DOWN.
UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT BORDER THE SOUTH CAMPUS, UM, UH, I REALLY COULDN'T SEE THAT THERE'S ANY DOWNSIDE TO THAT.
WE DON'T HAVE A, WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ANY OFFER IF WE'RE ABLE TO, IF, IF WE OPT TO LIST A PIECE OF PROPERTY AND, AND OFFER IT FOR SALE, UH, I KNOW WE'VE HAD DISCUSSION THAT SOME OF THAT PROPERTY MIGHT BE MORE VALUABLE IF WE CAN.
OUR REAL ESTATE EXPERT DID SAY THAT BECAUSE I POINT BLANK ASKED HIM TO QUESTION THE LAND WOULD BE MORE VALUABLE IF THIS DEVELOPMENT GOES THROUGH AT SOUTH POINT.
AND HE SAID, YES, I MEAN, HE SAID, I ASKED HIM, WELL, WE KNOW THAT DEVELOPMENT'S GOING THROUGH BECAUSE THAT'S AN APPROVED, WELL, YOU STILL NEED TO KNOW THAT THAT'S HAPPENING.
IT'S NOT BUILT OUT YET, OR IT'S NOT EVEN STARTED.
SO, SO, UH, YEAH, YEAH, I MEAN, BUT THAT'S EXACTLY WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION TWICE.
WELL, AND AGAIN, THAT'S IT ADDICTION MIKE, IT'S A PREDICTION.
SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS ECONOMY IS REALLY GOING TO DO.
AND I THINK WE'RE, UH, UH, I HAVE A NUMBER OF ARTICLES THAT I'D BE HAPPY TO SHARE WITH YOU AND A NUMBER OF OTHER, SOME OTHER RESEARCH I'VE DONE THAT, UH, WE REALLY ARE TRULY IN A SELLERS MARKET.
UH, THE METROPLEX IS, IS, UH, UM, RIGHT NOW RATED AS THE SECOND MOST DESIRABLE AREA FOR COMMERCIAL, UH, DEVELOPMENT IN THE UNITED STATES.
UM, AND SO, UH, UH, IT JUST SEEMED TO ME THAT IT WOULD BE PRUDENT TO AT LEAST BEGIN THE PROCESS OF TAKING A LOOK AND ACTIVELY MARKETING, OR AT LEAST, UH, UM, UH, ALLOWING, UH, THE MARKET TO, TO BEGIN TO CONSIDER, UH, WHETHER OR NOT THAT PROPERTY IS VALUABLE.
UM, MAY MAYBE IF WE, MAYBE IF THAT PROPERTY SITS THERE FOR TWO YEARS, IT WILL BE MORE VALUABLE, UH, 10, 11%.
ON THE OTHER HAND, IF THE MARKET CRASHES, IT MAY NOT BE, AND, UH, BUILDERS, PARTICULARLY COMMERCIAL DEVELOPERS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT, THEY DON'T MAKE SPLIT SECOND DECISIONS.
THEY, THEY HAVE THESE PROJECTS AND THEY, THEY CONCEPTUALIZE THEM AND, AND, UM, UH, BEGAN TO, UM, BEGIN TO DRAW PLANS AND DRAW FINANCING OPTIONS AND THAT SORT OF THING.
AND IT TAKES MONTHS AND MONTHS, AND EVEN SOMETIMES A COUPLE OF YEARS TO GET THAT DONE.
SO I JUST COULDN'T SEE THAT THERE WAS ANY REAL VALUE IN CONTINUING TO SIT ON THAT PROPERTY THAT WE'VE ALREADY DECIDED THAT WE REALLY DON'T NEED, AND IT'S NOT, UH, IT'S NOT NECESSARY FOR THE COUNTY TO OWN IT.
IF IT IS MARKETABLE, IF WE GOT A, UH, UH, AN INCREDIBLE OFFER ON THE, SOME OF THAT PROPERTY, WE'D BE, WE'D BE REMISS NOT TO TAKE IT.
I UNDERSTAND THE, A CREDIBLE OFFER, BUT CORRECT, BUT WE'LL NEVER KNOW IF WE DON'T OFFER IT.
THE FIRST NUMBERS THAT WE GOT IS LIKE, ARE YOU KIDDING ME? YEAH.
SO, WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PLAYS INTO THIS THAT, UH, IT'S ALMOST, IT'S ALMOST UNHEARD OF FOR A DEVELOPER TO BUY PROPERTY WITH HIS OWN MONEY.
UH, SO, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T REALLY KNOW IF WE'RE AT THE TOP OF THE MARKET OR NOT FOR SURE, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DRIVES THAT DISCUSSION IS INTEREST RATES, RIGHT? AND ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY WANTS TO MAKE A LITTLE SIDE BET WITH ME ABOUT WHERE THEIR INTEREST RATES ARE GOING TO BE CHEAPER IN A YEAR THAN THEY ARE RIGHT NOW.
I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE THAT MONEY.
BUT, UM, SO THAT, THAT PLAYS INTO THE VIABILITY OF THIS STUFF, BECAUSE IT, A DEVELOPER'S GOING TO GO OUT AND BUY ONE OF THESE COMMERCIALLY DEVELOPED PROPERTIES.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT FACTORS INTO HIS DECISION, AS MUCH AS ANYTHING IS AN INTEREST RATE.
SO BECAUSE HE'S GOING TO BORROW THE MONEY HE'S GOING TO, IT'S GOING TO TRY TO, HE'S GOING TO BORROW AS MUCH MONEY AS HE POSSIBLY CAN ON THAT PROPERTY TO CONSERVE IS A HUNDRED PERCENT, 10% PRESENT AND HE'LL DO IT.
SO, UH, I DON'T, IF WE'RE NOT HAVING TO PAY THE, UH, REAL ESTATE CONSULTANT, I MEAN, THEY'RE WORK
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THAT THEY WOULD BE WORKING ON A POTENTIAL TO GET COMMISSION ON THAT.I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE WOULDN'T LET THEM AT LEAST, SORRY, LET ME JUST NEED TO DEVELOPERS.
LET ME JUST READ YOU AN ARTICLE, A LOT OF FORMS, OR JUST A SUMMARY OF THAT, THAT I JUST READ DAY BEFORE YESTERDAY, UH, CAUSE THE BOTTOM LINE VERDICT, IT SAYS, IT SEEMS WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR, FOR THE REAL ESTATE BUBBLE TO END FOR AGES.
THERE IS NO SIGNIFICANT INDICATOR THAT WE'VE CYCLED BACK TO THE VERY FIRST STANDING OF THAT KIND OF INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITY.
SO WE MUST BE SOMEWHERE NEAR THE END.
MANY PREDICTED WILL COME IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS IF WE'RE NOT IN X-RAY ENDINGS, WE'RE DEFINITELY AT THE BOTTOM OF THE NINTH.
UH, SO, UH, THERE'S, THERE IS, UH, YOU MAY VERY WELL BE CORRECT, MOCK.
I DON'T RECALL THAT THAT PERSON SAYING THAT, BUT IF, UH, THAT'S ONE PARTICULAR, UH, UH, UH, REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONALS OPINION THAT THE LAND WILL BE WORTH MORE IN TWO YEARS AND IT MAY VERY WELL BE IF THERE'S MONEY AVAILABLE FOR SOMEBODY TO BUY IT AND FINANCE IT.
UH, BUT I JUST SEE THAT THERE'S I JUST SEE THAT THERE'S NO DOWNSIDE.
THERE'S NO DOWNSIDE TO STARTING THAT MARKETING PROCESS NOW.
AND IF, IF WE DON'T GET A, WE DON'T GET A DYNAMITE OFFER, IT'S COST US NOTHING.
AND WE HAVE NO, NO OBLIGATION TO MOVE FORWARD.
I THINK MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE THAT THE CONSULTANT WOULD NOT NECESSARILY PUT IT ON THE MARK WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WE'RE JUST, I THINK IF ASSUMING THEY'VE GOT GOOD DEVELOPER CONNECTIONS, THAT WOULDN'T BE THE BEST THING FOR, TO JUST TURN THEM LOOSE, TO SAY, WE WANT YOU TO START TALKING THIS PROP, THESE PROPERTIES UP AND SEE WHAT SORT OF RESPONSE YOU GET.
DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT WRANGLING YOUR REAL ESTATE CONSULTANT BECAUSE THEY HAVE ACCESS TO SO MANY DIFFERENT SITES AND PROGRAMS THAT THEY SHARE THIS PROPERTY WITH, YOU WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE, THEY WOULD WANT TO LIST THE PROPERTY BECAUSE THEN IT BECOMES PART OF YOUR PORTFOLIO.
UM, IF IT REACHES THAT, THAT MUCH MORE, YOU KNOW, AND JUST THE LOCAL DEVELOPERS HERE OR WHO THEY'RE ABLE TO CONTACT.
AND I MEAN, I JUST, I REALLY, I JUST FAILED TO SEE WHAT DOWNSIDE THERE WOULD BE TO, TO PROPERTY THAT WE KNOW THAT WE DON'T INTEND TO USE, UH, WHAT DOWNSIDE THERE WOULD BE TO GO ON AHEAD AND EVEN TAKING THE FORMAL STEP OF LISTING IT AND SEEING WHAT SORT OF INTEREST THERE IS.
UH, WE ALL, WE ALREADY KNOW THAT SOME OF THE PROPERTY THAT, THAT SOME OTHER ORGANIZATIONS DO HAVE INTEREST IN SOME OF THOSE PROPERTIES.
SO WHEN, AND THEN THE COMMERCIAL PRACTICE, I DON'T KNOW, I HAVEN'T LISTED BEING COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, BUT DON'T, I DO KIND OF LIKE THE HOMES DO NOW AND SAY, YEAH, COMING SOON, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE THAT SIGN AND IT JUST DRIVES ME CRAZY ON THE HOUSE COMING SOON.
WELL, THE TIME PUT A FOR SALE SIGN OUT THERE, IT'S BEEN SOLD 35 TIMES.
YOU KNOW? I MEAN, WHAT'S THE POINT IN PUTTING, COMING SOON INSTEAD OF BAR IN TOWN, BUT YOU COULDN'T, THEY DO BASICALLY, ARE WE SAYING, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING SET UP.
BUT I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS, IS COMING SOON, IT'S NOT A DONE DEAL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IF YOU GIVE A GREAT BIG OFFER, YOU GET IT BACK.
THEY OFFERED, I BELIEVE THAT'S WHY THEY PUT THE COME IN SIGNS COMING SOON, SIGN OUT THERE TO TRY TO GET PEOPLE, TO PUT THEM OUT OF MONEY OUT THERE BEFORE SOMEONE ELSE CAN EVEN PUT IT UP FOR LIST.
AND THEY'D BE ABOVE THE LIST PRICE, WHOEVER TALKS MONEY FIRST, YOU KNOW, EVER WHO SHOWS UP WITH THE DOLLAR WINS THE BET.
RIGHT? SO AT ANY RATE, I JUST THOUGHT, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THIS PROCESS PLAYED OUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DID GET SOME OFFER THAT, THAT, THAT, UH, GAVE US, UH, UH, SOMETHING TO ACTUALLY BEGIN PLANNING, SOME SORT OF RESOURCES THAT WE MIGHT HAVE AVAILABLE IN, UH, IN A PREDICTABLE TIMEFRAME, IT MIGHT GIVE US SOME, SOME IDEA OF WHAT SORT OF MONEY WE WOULD HAVE FOR SOME OF THESE OTHER PROJECTS.
UH, AND IF, UH, IF NOTHING VALUABLE OR PRODUCTIVE CAME UP, IT DIDN'T COST ANYTHING, UM, IS REALLY NO SKIN OFF THE COUNTY'S NOSE, IF, IF THERE'S NO INTEREST IN IT AND WE'RE STILL SITTING ON IT IN TWO YEARS.
SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT? ONE REQUEST THAT I DO HAVE IS IF Y'ALL DECIDE ON THIS AD, I WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND THE MONEY TO HAVE IT SURVEYED SO THAT WE'RE ABLE TO TAKE OUT PORTIONS OF THE PORT FORM.
EVERYONE'S GOING TO WANT AN OFFICIAL DIFFERENT LINES THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
SO, UM, IF WE CAN BE, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO NEED THAT, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER, WHETHER IT'S OLD TOMORROW OR IF IT'S OLD IN FIVE YEARS, RIGHT? THAT'S THE ONLY AMOUNT OF REQUESTING IF Y'ALL MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS SURVEY, WOULD WE HAVE ENOUGH PHONES AND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES TO DO THAT? OKAY.
MY OTHER QUESTION IS, COULD WE MACT ON IT TODAY WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHAT IT IS
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OR WHERE, YOU KNOW, COULD WE, WHAT COULD WE ACTUALLY ACT ON IT WITHOUT BRINGING THAT BACK, SAYING AFTER THIS, OUR BAY AND SAYING, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING.THE SURVEY COULD BE A SEPARATE ACTION AUTHORIZING THEM.
I WAS JUST TELLING THEM THAT THEY CAN DECISION TODAY, MAKE IT, WHETHER THE WORDS COULD WE EVEN MAKE A DECISION WITHOUT IT BEING IN THE SURVEY AND DECIDING EXACTLY WHAT IT IS.
I'M TRYING TO KAREN, YOU GUYS, DO YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? RIGHT.
I THINK YOU'RE MUCH BETTER OFF TO DO THE SURVEYS AND THEN JUST COME BACK AND THE AGENDA.
JUST, JUST NOT TO HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WE'RE SELLING SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT SURE.
WELL, THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME THEN I THINK THAT HAVING THE SURVEY DONE REALLY RE I MEAN, IT'S PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.
IT REALLY DOESN'T REQUIRE AN ACTION BY THE COURT.
KAREN, I SAID, UM, TO PAY FOR THE SURVEYS IS REALLY A PAYMENT ON PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.
IT REALLY DOESN'T TAKE AN ACTION BY THE COURTS.
ALL I'M SAYING, RIGHT? SO WE COULD JUST AUTHORIZE THE PURCHASING AGENT TO, WE KNOW WE DON'T NEED TO, WE DON'T NEED TO DO THAT ON THE ROOM.
THAT'S BELOW THE AMOUNT THIS PROFESSIONAL SERVICES IS.
IT NEEDS TO BE, UM, VERY GOOD.
BUT WHEN WE GET THE SURVEYS BACK, WE CAN COME BACK TO THE COURT AND JUST AUTHORIZE.
WE WANT TO SELL THOSE PROPERTIES, JUST CAUSE THEN WITH THE REAL ESTATE PEOPLE GETTING FEELERS OUT PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, WE NEED A RECORD OF WHAT'S GOING TO BE HIT.
SO WHAT THEN WHAT I THINK, I THINK WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW IS WE WOULD JUST PASS ITEM 15, RIGHT? UM, SO I WOULD CALL FOR EMOTIONAL HEALTH.
WELL, AS FAR AS THE SURVEYING, I'M A CUFFS IN, I GUESS, IN, BY MINE.
I SEE SEPARATE PARTIALS INSTEAD OF JUST, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT JUST ONE SURVEY, TOTAL ACREAGE, ALL WE'LL GET THE SURVEY BROUGHT UP IN.
THEY'D HAVE TO SURVEY EACH BEACH, PARCEL PARTIAL EACH PARCEL.
YEAH, NO, IT'D HAVE TO BE EACH PARCEL.
ALL THE PARTIALS ARE TOO BIG, EVEN THOUGH, SO, SO FAR AT ALL.
NO, BUT AS FAR AS THE SURVEYS KIND OF KEEP IT IN RIGHTS BECAUSE THE BIG DEAL IS PRESERVING THE POOR FARM.
SO WE DON'T WANT THAT ALL MIXED UP IN ONE BIG SURVEY.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? SO, I MEAN, AND I DUNNO, MAYBE WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW TO QUADRANT IT ALL FOR SOMETHING I SAID, WE NEED, WE NEED SURVEYS.
TO SEE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
I MEAN, AREN'T THOSE, I MEAN, THEY'RE ALL IDENTIFIED ON THE CAT IS SEPARATE PARCEL.
IS THERE A, IS THERE AN EXISTING SURVEY OF THE POOR FARM? YES.
SO WE ONLY NEED THIS 27 ACRES.
WE HAD A SURVEY MAYBE THREE YEARS AGO SO WE COULD PUT FENCES UP.
SO WE DON'T, WE DON'T NEED THAT SURVEY.
SO I HAVEN'T EMOTIONAL AND ITEM 15.
[16. Commissioner Cates; Discuss/Consider implementing an established and recurring reporting system of both statutory/mandatory reports to the Commissioners Court, various internal reports.]
TO MOVE FORWARD TO ITEM 16 COMMISSIONED CASE DISCUSS, CONSIDER IMPLEMENTING AN ESTABLISHED IN RECURRING REPORTING SYSTEM OF BOTH SUCH STORY MENTOR REPORTS TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, VARIOUS INTERNAL REPORTS.SO THIS IS, UH, BEEN DISCUSSED, UH, IN THE PAST.
UH, AND, UH, I HAD HAVE TO RIP ONE OFF OF THEM AND I HAD THE, UH, DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE REVIEW.
WHAT, IF ANY, THERE, WHAT MANDATORY REPORTS ARE DUE TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT IN AN EFFORT TO ONCE AND FOR ALL PUT IT ALL ON ONE, UM, UH, SINGLE INFORMATION SHEET, UH, WE'VE ALSO HAD DISCUSSIONS, UM, I KNOW COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS AND I HAVE DISCUSSED IT, HOW, UH, UM, AND ACTUALLY WE ENGAGED IN IT TODAY.
HOW, UH, IN THE PAST THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT HAD, UH, HAD, UH, SOME DIRECT REPORTING WHERE SOME OF THESE DEPARTMENT HEADS, UH, ALTHOUGH THAT WAS ON OUR PRIOR STRUCTURE, BUT, UH, WHERE, WHERE SOME OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS OR OTHER OFFICIALS WOULD, WOULD COME BEFORE THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND MAKE THEIR VARIOUS REPORTS, UH, GAVE THE COMMISSIONERS AN OPPORTUNITY TO INTERACT WITH THEM DIRECTLY.
UM, THAT PROCESS, UM, REALLY SORT OF CURTAILED LARGELY AS A, AS A RESULT OF COVID I THINK IN AN EFFORT TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM, UM, SINCE WE ARE, UH, HOPEFULLY TRENDING DOWNWARD THERE, UM, WITH THE HELP OF, UH, AS I SAID, THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE,
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I PUT TOGETHER THIS LIST OF, UH, VARIOUS REPORTS THAT, UH, ARE, AT LEAST WOULD, COULD BE AVAILABLE TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, UH, WITH THE HELP OF THE, UH, JUDGES COURT COORDINATOR.THESE, THESE, UM, THESE REPORTS COULD BE SCHEDULED AND STAGGERED SO THAT, UH, NO ONE PARTICULAR COURT SESSION WOULD RUN EXCESSIVELY LONG.
AND, UH, THESE VARIOUS OFFICIALS, UH, OR, OR DEPARTMENT ADDITIVES OR THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR WOULD BE ABLE TO SCHEDULE, UH, IN ADVANCE, WHAT TOPICS WERE GOING TO BE DISCUSSED OR BRIEF TO THE COMMISSIONER TO SUPPORT.
UH, SO I JUST BROUGHT THIS FORWARD FOR CONSIDERATION FOR THE COURT TO ADOPT IT.
IF IN FACT THAT INTEREST STILL EXISTS TO HAVE THESE, UH, THESE OPPORTUNITIES TO INTERACT WITH THESE VARIOUS COMPONENTS OF THE COUNTY.
ADDITIONALLY, UH, WE DRAFTED A, A, UH, INVITATION LETTER THAT WOULD BE FORMALIZED ON A, UH, PROBABLY, UH, UH, INITIATED AND SIGNED BY THE COUNTY JUDGE'S OFFICE.
WE'RE IN, WE WOULD INVITE ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS, UH, TO COME AND APPEAR RECURRINGLY BEFORE THE COURT, UH, COMMISSIONER'S COURT FOR, UH, AGAIN, ANYTHING THAT THEY MAY WANT TO DISCUSS ANYTHING THEY MAY WANT TO BRIEF ANY CHALLENGES, ANY HUGE SUCCESSES.
AND IT WOULD ALLOW EVERY ELECTED OFFICIAL IN THE COUNTY TO, UH, IN ADVANCE, UH, AGAIN, THROUGH COORDINATION WITH THE, WITH THE COUNTY JUDGES COURT COORDINATOR TO SCHEDULE THEIR APPEARANCES AND GET IT ON THEIR CALENDAR, SO THAT IF IN FACT THEY WANTED TO COME AND SPEAK TO THE COURT, UH, YOU KNOW, OTHER THAN IT BUDGET TIME, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.
AND AGAIN, IT WOULD JUST BE THEIR INVITATION.
IT'S NOT, UH, IN ANY WAY, A MANDATORY, UM, UM, DESIGNATION BY THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
SO JUST WANTED TO BRING THIS, UH, OFFICIALLY FORWARD AND, AND, UH, HAVE THE COMMISSIONERS CONSIDER IT.
AND IF THEY ARE SO INCLINED TO ADOPT THIS REPORTING WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU TOLD ME THE POINT THAT I WANT TO POINT OUT ONE THING, THOUGH, THAT ELECTED WAS ALREADY HAD THE RIGHT TO COME SPEAK IN FRONT OF THE COURT TIME THAT WE HOLD COURT.
UH, SO THAT'S JUST PART OF THE PROCESS.
THAT'S MY STATE STATUTE, THAT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT THEIR CHOICE, WHAT THEY DO WELL, I SAY THAT YOU SAY THAT, BUT IN THE REQUIRED REPORTS, THESE ARE ELECTED OFFICIALS TO HAVE REQUIRED REPORTS.
THERE ARE, THERE ARE REQUIRED.
THERE'S QUITE A FEW, BE HONEST WITH YOU.
I MEAN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE REQUIREMENT REPORTS, THAT'S SUPPOSED TO REPORT TO THE COURT.
I MEAN, YOU CAN'T TELL THEM WHAT TO DO, BUT, AND SOME OF THESE ARE SOME OF THESE ARE THINGS THAT AT LEAST IN MY LITTLE, OVER TWO YEARS HERE, I'VE NEVER SEEN.
UH, FOR INSTANCE, WE DON'T HAVE A, WE DON'T HAVE A FORMAL SCHEDULE FOR SAY THE, UH, COMMISSIONERS COURTS REPRESENTATIVE TO THE, UH, UM, APPRAISAL DISTRICT.
UH, SO THIS WOULD, THIS WOULD KIND OF FORMALIZE SOME OF THAT, SO THAT SOME OF THESE, UH, UM, SOME OF THESE APPOINTED POSITIONS, UH, PERHAPS EVEN THE SDS WOULD, WOULD, UH, COME AND, AND, UH, AND BE ABLE TO PROVIDE INFORMATION TO THE COURT, UH, RELATIVE TO FINANCIAL SUPPORT THAT WE GIVE THESE VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS, EVEN SOME OF THE NGOS.
UH, AGAIN, WE W WE KIND OF HAVE IT, UH, AD HOC NOW, FOR INSTANCE, THE STAR REPORT AND THAT, YOU KNOW, WRITE A REPORT, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS, JUST TRYING TO, UH, PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COURT TO BE ABLE TO FORMALLY, UH, ESTABLISH THIS PROCESS AND, AND RESUME IN PERSON PORT REPORTING, UH, WHERE YOU CAN ACTUALLY QUESTION THESE TODAY.
WE PASSED ON THE FIRE MARSHAL'S REPORT, BUT, UH, THIS WOULD BE, THIS WOULD SORT OF BE A, TO THE, THE PROCEDURES THAT EXISTED IN SOME OF THE PREVIOUS COURTS.
ONE OF THEM IS, UM, IT SEEMS TO ME SINCE WE HAVE A COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND THE, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FACILITIES, IT, THOSE PEOPLE ALL REPORT DIRECTLY TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
IT SEEMS LIKE, AND YOU HAVE THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE WE SHOULD LEAVE IT TO HIS DISCRETION WHEN THERE IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT TO US AT T FOR EXAMPLE, I DON'T KNOW THAT UNLESS THE, UNLESS JERRY HAD SOMETHING SPECIFIC TO BRING TO US ON A MONTHLY BASIS FROM IT, I DON'T, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK WE WOULD, I CAN'T IMAGINE WE'D NEED THAT EVERY MONTH.
SO I FEEL LIKE IF, IF HE'S ENTRUSTED TO SUPERVISE THOSE DEPARTMENTS AND THOSE DEPARTMENTS REPORT TO HIM, WE SHOULD LEAVE IT UP TO HIM TO TELL US, TO COME
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AND REPORT TO US ON EACH DEPARTMENT OR BRING IT APARTMENT HAD WITH HIM FOR, FOR SOME SORT OF, UH, OF, UH, UPDATE OR SOMETHING UNUSUAL HAPPENS.UM, THE OTHER THING HAS TO DO WITH SCHEDULING AND I HAVE TRIED TO SCHEDULE, WE'VE HAD ATTORNEYS COME HERE A COUPLE OF TIMES, AND I'VE TOLD THEM, WELL, YOU'RE, YOU'RE DOWN ON THE AGENDA.
SO IF YOU COME, IF YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T NEED TO BE HERE BEFORE 10.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY I'M WORRIED ABOUT THEM BILL AND HIS TIME.
AND, UH, IT'S VERY, IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT TIME SOMEBODY IS GOING TO COME UP, BECAUSE SOMETIMES OUR DISCUSSIONS, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF DISCUSSION AND SOMETIMES IT'S UNPREDICTABLE ABOUT HOW LONG WE MIGHT TALK ABOUT A SUBJECT.
SO YOU, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE, I THINK YOU, YOU RUN THE RISK OF HAVING THESE FOLKS SITTING AROUND HERE, WAITING FOR US TO GET THEM TO THE AGENDA.
SO I DON'T, UH, I WILL, I WILL AGREE WITH YOU ON JERRY WITH THE ADMINISTRATIVE, FOR THE REOCCURRING COUNTY OPERATION REPORTS.
I CAN SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THERE, BUT THEN WE HAVE THE REQUIREMENT REPORTS.
THOSE REPORTS CAN BE IN WRITING.
YEAH, WELL, THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION.
SO, BUT ALL WE EVEN GET THEM IN WRITING OR ARE THEY GOING SOMEWHERE ELSE THAT WE DON'T EVER SEE? I THINK IF IT'S A REQUIRED REPORT, WE SHOULD GET THE REPORT IN WRITING, BUT I DON'T KNOW NECESSARILY.
AND THEN I'LL, I'LL SAY ONE MORE THING.
AND THEN I'LL, I'LL LET Y'ALL TALK.
I DID A LITTLE, DID SOME NUMBER CRUNCHING ON THIS, AND I FIGURED I WAS FIGURING LIKE, IF EACH ONE OF THESE PRESENTATIONS LASTED LIKE EIGHT TO 10 MINUTES, WHICH SEEMS LIKE A LONG TIME, BUT BY THE TIME SOMEBODY GETS UP HERE AND THEY'RE INTRODUCED TO IT, SOME OF THEM WILL BE LONGER THAN THAT.
MY, WHAT I FIGURED OUT IS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, IF WE DO ALL THESE REPORTS AS PRESENTED, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDING SOMEWHERE BETWEEN TWO AND TWO AND A HALF HOURS TO EVERY MEETING, WHICH IS OKAY WITH, IF THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL WANT TO DO.
BUT I THINK, UM, THAT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MEETINGS GOING TO FROM NINE TO ONE SKI DOESN'T WANT TO START AT EIGHT BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC'S TOO BAD, RIGHT? YOU'RE RIGHT.
ON SOME OF THE OPERATIONAL THINGS I BELIEVE I COULD PRESENT THOSE AND THEN HIGHLIGHT THINGS THAT WERE MAYBE ELECTED MONDAY.
YOU'RE GOING TO PLAY THAT IN, OR THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE APPROVAL FOR THOSE.
ANYWAY, THE OTHER PIECE IS I CAN WORK UP SOME FORM OF TEMPLATE, YOU KNOW, THAT I COULD GO THROUGH AND YOU COULD HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION.
AND THEN I CAN HIGHLIGHT, YOU KNOW, THE TOP FIVE, TOP SIX TOP STEP, WHATEVER, AND THEN BRING PEOPLE OUT OF AS NEEDED.
AND I WOULD BE PERFECTLY WILLING TO HAVE THOSE REPORTS IN WRITING WITH ALL THE DETAIL.
AND THEN IF, IF ANY DEPARTMENT HAD HAD SOMETHING THAT THEY FELT LIKE WE NEEDED TO, THEY NEEDED TO DRAW OUR ATTENTION TO, THEY COULD BRING THAT VERBALLY.
BUT A LOT OF THESE REPORTS, I THINK, COULD JUST BE WRITTEN REPORTS, AT LEAST SPEAK FREELY ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE MOVING WITHIN, WITHIN AN ACCOUNT.
THERE'S ALSO A LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.
IF SOMEBODY'S PRESENTING A REPORT WITH FINANCIAL INFORMATION ON IT, I'M SUPPOSED TO CERTIFY THAT IT'S RIGHT.
THERE'S ONLY TWO DEPARTMENTS, THE COUNTY TREASURER AND THE TAX ASSESSOR THAT HAS ME CERTIFIED THOSE.
AND I KNOW I'M STATUTORILY SUPPOSED TO GIVE YOU ALL FINANCIAL REPORTS, BUT DURING COVID AND THE TRANSFORMATION OF THE NEW SOFTWARE AND DOING ALL THE NEW ACCOUNTS AND STUFF, I KIND OF SLACKED ON SOME OF THAT, BUT I'M GETTING BACK.
AND ONCE WE SIGNED THE AGREEMENT WITH THEM, THEY TOOK VISION AWAY FROM XCEL.
AND I HAD TO MAKE THEM COME BACK AND GIVE ME VISIONS SO I CAN DO THOSE REPORTS.
UM, I'M GOING TO KIND OF AGREE ABOUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO ME WAS ALWAYS RECEIVING THE REPORTS AND KAREN CAN KIND OF BACK ME ON THIS, YOU KNOW, SEVEN YEARS AGO WHEN I CAME IN THE OFFICE, WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T SEE REPORTS, YOU KNOW, AND, AND EXCEPT THAT, EXCEPT FROM KAREN, WHEN I SAW THOSE BUT OTHER DEPARTMENTS, AND, AND I UNDERSTAND YOU MENTIONED CATES, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT THE WARNING REPORTS IS BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE KNOW WHAT DEPARTMENTS ARE.
SO KNOW I WAS TICKLED TO DEATH AFTER A COUPLE OF YEARS OF BATTLING AND GETTING EVERYBODY TO COME TO COURT AND START GIVING REPORTS.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT, I'M NOT GOING TO ARGUE ABOUT REPORTS.
I JUST LIKE TO HAVE THEM, UH, JERRY RECEIVED THEM.
THAT'S WONDERFUL IF HE PUTS OUT THE HIGHLIGHTS, THAT'S ONE.
BUT I LIKE TO SEE THE DEPARTMENT HEAD REPORTS MY SALE IN WRITING.
I DON'T NEED THEM STANDING HERE TELLING ME ABOUT THEM FOR TWO HOURS,
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BUT I DO NEED TO SEE THEM.IT MAKES YOU UNDERSTAND THE DEPARTMENT AND IT MAKES YOU UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS.
IT MAKES YOU UNDERSTAND THE COST.
AND YOU KNOW THAT, I KNOW THAT.
SO YOU JUST NEED THE INFORMATION.
EVERYBODY NEEDS INFORMATION TO WORK.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE THEM ON YOU, YOU DON'T, YOU KNOW, CAN'T DO THE PROCESS.
SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK WE NEED TO WORK OUT WHAT WE NEED TO SEE, HEAR AND UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE HEARING AND UNDERSTAND.
AND I'M KINDA WITH YOU ON THIS.
IF A DEPARTMENT HEAD NEEDS SOMETHING SPECIAL, THEN THAT'S THE TIME THAT THEY NEED TO REALLY BE HERE.
AND IF WE NEED TO BREAK IT UP, IF, IF IT'S A TIME CONSUMING ISSUE, THEN IF WE NEED TO SEE THEM, THEN WE COULD DO IT ON A QUARTERLY BASIS OR SOMETHING NOT NECESSARILY ON A MONTHLY BASIS.
AND WE COULD SCHEDULE THEM IN DIFFERENT QUARTERS.
YOU KNOW, ONE, ONE MONTH, ONE DEPARTMENT, THE NEXT MONTH, ANOTHER DEPARTMENT HAS ANOTHER ONE THE NEXT MONTH AND THEN DOWN THE ROAD.
AND THEN WE'RE NOT OVERWHELMED WITH PEOPLE OUT IN THE HALLWAY WAITING TO GET THEIR TURN IN THE SCHEDULE.
AND THE SCHEDULE IS A BIG DEAL.
IF WE'RE GOING TO GO DOWN THIS ROAD, I THINK WE ALMOST, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE AGENDA SOMETIMES WITH TIME SLOTS AND, UH, RTC DOES THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY, EVERY SINGLE ITEM IT'S STARTS AT THIS TIME AND ENDS UP AHEAD OF TIME.
AND IF WE WERE GOING TO DO THIS, I THINK WE WE'D ALMOST HAVE TO DO THAT AND STICK WITH IT.
SO WE DON'T HAVE SOMEBODY WAITING FOR AN HOUR TO DELIVER THEIR REPORT RATHER THAN BEING, YOU KNOW, DOING THEIR DUTIES.
SO, SO JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS.
NUMBER ONE, I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THE GENESIS OF THIS, THIS ENTIRE EFFORT WAS THAT THERE WAS AT LEAST DISCUSSION THAT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT NEEDED TO BE BETTER INFORMED ABOUT WHAT WAS TAKING PLACE OPERATIONALLY AND, UH, YOU KNOW, PROCEDURALLY, UH, POLICY WISE.
AND THAT WAS THE, THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL GENESIS OF EVEN TRYING TO CODIFY THIS.
SO TO SPEAK SECOND, UH, THE INTENT AND PERHAPS I DIDN'T, AS I PREPARED THIS DRAFT, ALTHOUGH I DID CIRCULATE IT AROUND.
SO YOU'VE ALL HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT IT.
UH, THE INTENT WAS NOT THAT THERE'D BE A MANDATORY IT REPORT, BUT IF THAT THE COURT COORDINATOR WOULD DESIGNATE A PARTICULAR, UH, DATE, YOU KNOW, THE SECOND TUESDAY, THE THIRD TUESDAY, IF THERE WAS AN, IT NEED TO, TO PRESENT TO THE COURT, THAT WOULD BE, UH, THAT WOULD BE THE TIME THAT IT WOULD BE DONE ABSENT SOME EXIGENT CIRCUMSTANCES SO THAT IT WOULD HELP SCHEDULING.
UH, AND IF THERE WAS NOTHING, NO BIG DEAL IN IT, THEN THERE'S NO REPORT.
UH, SO THAT WAS THE INTENT OF THAT PARTICULAR THING.
UH, AND THEN LASTLY, UH, ONCE AGAIN, THIS, THIS ENTIRE EXERCISE WAS TO PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY, UM, HOWEVER GREAT OR SMALL THE COMMISSIONER'S COURTS WANTS IT TO BE, TO BE ABLE TO, TO KNOW FULLY AND BE FULLY AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON INSIDE THE COUNTY, UH, EVERYTHING FROM ACTUAL DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS.
AND AGAIN, WE, WE MODIFIED THIS STARTED BEFORE WE HAD A COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, THIS DRAFT, UH, SO AT SOME ITERATIONS DID HAVE DEPARTMENT HEADS PRESENTING, AND THEN UNLESS I PRINTED THE WRONG ONE, HOPEFULLY IT ALL REVERTED TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AT HIS DISCRETION TO, TO MAKE THESE DEPARTMENT HEAD REPORTS.
UH, BUT, BUT AGAIN, THE INTENT WAS TO PROVIDE THE EXPLICIT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO BE ABLE TO BE COMPLETELY INFORMED ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITHIN THE, UM, THE CONFINES OF COUNTY GOVERNMENT.
AND THEN IF THEY SO OPTED, UH, THEY'D BE ABLE TO, TO ASK, YOU KNOW, AN EXPLANATORY QUESTION OR, UH, YOU KNOW, TO ENLARGE ON A PARTICULAR ISSUE OR NOT, UH, IF YOU GOT A WRITTEN REPORT.
SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE, WE DO CERTAINLY HAVE SOME STATUTORY WRITTEN REPORTS THAT ARE CITED IN THERE.
AND THOSE, AGAIN, ALL CAME THROUGH COUNCIL AND I APPRECIATE THEIR WORK IN THAT.
CAUSE IT WAS, IT WAS QUITE AN EFFORT TO GET IT, PULL IT ALL TOGETHER.
BUT, UM, A LOT OF THESE REPORTS ARE REALLY, THERE'S NOT NECESSARILY A WRITTEN REPORT.
YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM THE, FROM MY REPRESENTATIVE ON THE CAD, THERE'S NO, UH, THERE'S NO WRITTEN REPORT.
IF YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM, UH, UH, TERS A BOARD MEMBER, THERE WAS NO WRITTEN REPORT FOR THAT.
THE INTENT WAS TO PROVIDE THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO ADOPT WHATEVER LEVEL OF REPORTING AND INFORMATION EXCHANGE THAT WE WANTED TO HAVE.
WELL, YOU KNOW, I, I, I SEE WHAT JUDGE IS SAYING.
AND WE DO HAVE AN ADMINISTRATOR THAT I CAN RELAY A LOT OF STUFF, BUT I JUST WANT THE ADMINISTRATOR TO UNDERSTAND THAT I DON'T MIND WISHES IS WE USED TO HAVE DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT
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ARE RESPONSIBLE TO MAKE DECISIONS, LONG RANGE, GOALS, AND PLANS.THAT'S NOT JUST DELEGATED TO YOU TO DETERMINE WHAT THEY FEEL IS IMPORTANT ISSUE TO HELP THEM BE SUCCESSFUL AND TO MEET THEIR GOALS.
AND WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THEY SEE, AND HOPEFULLY WE'VE GOT THE RIGHT GUY IN THERE THAT CAN TAKE THEIR EXPERTISE AND THEIR EXPERIENCE AND THEIR NEEDS AND SEE THE BENEFITS IN IT.
AND I, YOU KNOW, AND NOT WHERE IT'S JUST GOES TO YOU AND YOU MAKE THE DECISION, WHAT COMES TO US, THAT THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO ADVOCATE FOR WHAT THEY FEEL LIKE IS IMPORTANT.
THAT WHEN WE'RE NOT STYMIE IN THE END FROM DOING WHAT THEY'RE REALLY HIRED TO DO TO, TO RUN THEIR DEPARTMENTS AND YOU'RE THERE TO MAKE THEM BE SUCCESSFUL OR HELP THEM BE SUCCESSFUL.
YOU KNOW, THIS LAST WEEK I'VE NOTICED YOU'RE IN OUR TEAM.
I THINK I EXPLAINED EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WHAT'S GOING INTO SOME FOLDER FORMAT.
WHAT I'M ENVISIONING IS MAYBE IN THE ONE TUESDAY, YOU SEE SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE MORE DETAILED ON.
SO THE NEXT TUESDAY I BRING THAT BACK, RIGHT? AND SO WE SEE THIS IS GOING ON IN THE FAR MARSHALL'S OFFICE.
WE'D LIKE TO TALK TO RANDY A. LITTLE MORE DIRECTLY.
AND TO GIVE YOU MORE DETAIL ON, ON THOSE SUMMARY REPORTS, UNDERSTAND HOW THOSE, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
I THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME, BUT SOME CADENCE AROUND IT AS TO SEE WHAT WORKS AND WHAT'S NOT BURNING.
THAT'S CERTAINLY HOW I ENVISION THE TEAM IS SENDING ME A WEEKLY REPORT EVERY FRIDAY.
SO THEY PULL EVERYTHING I'M SYMPATHIZING SLIGHTLY FORWARD FORWARD.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT I WOULD USE MY BASIS.
AND I HOPE YOU'RE NOT TALKING TOO MUCH WITHOUT NO MICROPHONE.
I DON'T KNOW IF SHE CAN HEAR IT.
AND I THINK OUR MEETINGS WHEN I MEET WITH YOU AND WE DISCUSSED DEPARTMENTS AND DIFFERENT THINGS, THEN WE KEEP ADVISED ON WHAT'S GOING ON.
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THAT WAS MY BIGGEST DISRUPTION IN THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT.
WHEN I CAME IN WAS I'M SITTING HERE LOOKING OUT AND I HAVE NO CLUE WHAT THIS DEPARTMENT OR THAT DEPARTMENT DOES ALL THE TIME.
AND YOU NEED TO KNOW, I MEAN, YOU JUST, WE CAN'T MAKE THOSE BUDGETARY RESPONSIBILITIES IN THE ACTUAL NOW WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHAT THEY NEED TO DO AND HOW THEY'RE DOING IT AND THE WAY THEY'RE MOVING FORWARD.
AND WE WANT THEM TO MOVE FORWARD IN A GOOD, GOOD MANNER IN A COST SAVING MANNER.
SO, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, I NEED TO REPORT AND, YOU KNOW, AND WE DO APPROVE PEOPLE'S BUDGETS AND WE DO APPROVE THE APPRAISAL MORTGAGE BY THEN THEY SHOULD COME SEE US, YOU KNOW, ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR, THEY'LL LET US KIND OF KNOW THE WHOLE COURT.
IT, IT, IT, AND THEY USED TO THE OTHER HAD APPRAISER.
UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE SEEN THE ONE THAT THE LIVE WITH.
I DON'T THINK THEY MADE A REPORT SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE AND WE HAVE TO APPROVE THEIR BUDGET.
SO THEN THEY USED TO COME PRESENT IT.
AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT THEY CAME IN, PRESENTED IT LAST YEAR.
Y ONCE LAST WEEK AND THIS WEEK I RECEIVED MAIL FROM OPENGOV AND IT WAS A VERY DISTURBING EMAIL THAT, UM, A COUNTY AND A CITY THAT'S CONVERTING TO WHAT WE'RE CONVERTING WAS USING A ZOOM MEETING TO DISCUSS SOMEONE, HACKED THEIR SYSTEM AND GOT INTO THEIR SERVER.
IF WE WOULD BE ON THE CLOUD, THAT WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED, THEY'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF TRYING TO GET US TO THE CLOUD.
SO WE DON'T GET HACKED, BUT I SENT INFORMATION TO IT.
NATHAN HAD CHRIS REVIEW IT AND HE SENT ME A VERY, UM, SHORT EMAIL, BUT SAID HE HAD CHECKED IT ALL AND THAT WE WERE SAFE.
SO I WANTED TO SAY, I APPRECIATE THEM LOOKING INTO THAT AND MAKING SURE DURING OUR CONVERSION THAT WE'RE GETTING THERE AND NOBODY'S HACKING US.
YOU KNOW, TECHNOLOGY IS WONDERFUL, BUT IT'S ALSO BAD.
WELL, SO, UH, IF, UH, EVEN THOUGH YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THIS BEFORE, IF YOU'D LIKE, PERHAPS WE NEED TO TABLE THIS, UH, ITEM SO THAT IF YOU THINK THERE'S AN ADJUSTMENT NEEDED IN THE FREQUENCY OF REPORTING OR ANY OTHER ADJUSTMENTS TO THIS TABLE, THEN WE COULD TABLE THIS.
OR IF WE JUST PASS IT, IF WE DON'T TYPICALLY TABLE IT, WE'VE GOT TO BRING THEM BACK NEXT WEEK.
I WANT TO KNOW IF THIS MATTER IS DEAD THEN, SO BE IT THAT
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THEN THERE'LL BE NO FURTHER DISCUSSION THAT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT DOESN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, FOR, UH, ADEQUATE BRIEFING NEAR THE SITE, THE ESPS AND ALL THEIR FINANCIAL REPORTS, RIGHT.THAT ACTUALLY WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR PUTTING THE BOARD, THE DIRECTORS ON THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, DO WE DON'T GET THOSE? I MEAN, SO I THINK A LOT OF THIS NEEDS TO BE INCORPORATED AND WE NEED TO GET MORE PEOPLE IN THAT HAVE NOT TRADITIONALLY CAME AND TALKED TO US AND LET US KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON OR SEND THE PAPERWORK.
CAUSE WE'RE NOT EVEN GETTING THE PAPERWORK.
SO IF WE GET THE PAPERWORK IN PLACE OF AN IN-PERSON, WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
I'D LIKE TO SEE US TO RECEIVE THESE REPORTS DIRECTLY, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THEY COME DIRECTLY TO US OR THROUGH JERRY, I DON'T CARE.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST SEE THOSE REPORTS.
I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARILY, UH, THAT WE NEED THEM TO COME HERE.
UNLESS WE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE REPORT.
WE NEED TO SCHEDULE THIS GUY TO COME IN AND EXPLAIN THIS TO US INSTEAD OF SCHEDULING A TIME FOR THEM TO COME IN.
JUST, WE JUST NEED THE REPORTS.
WHEN YOU SET UP A SCHEDULE OF REPORTING, SAY THIS REPORT'S DUE ON THIS DATE TO THE COMMISSIONERS AND WE RECEIVE IT.
AND THEN WHEN, AFTER WE LOOK AT IT AND WE DECIDE, WE NEED TO BRING THEM UP HERE.
SO WE PUT IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA.
WHO TAKES CARE OF THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CONTACT THE REPORT THAT THEY'RE CONTACTED AND THE PROFANITY ADMINISTRATOR.
BUT I THINK ALL THE REPORTS OUGHT TO COME.
THEY OUGHT TO BE ADDRESSED TO US.
I MEAN, THEY NEED TO COME TO US.
AND THEN THE ONE YOU HAVE LABELED SPECIAL PROJECTS ARE THE ONES AT THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT AND THE SDS AND YOU KNOW, AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO IN THE ENGINEER, YOU KNOW, JUST SMALL REPORTS, THEY'RE SMALL, BUT YOU LOOK AT THEM AND THEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING.
SO WHEN WE, IF SOMEBODY BRINGS IT UP, AT LEAST WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, THEN TO ANSWER THE QUESTION WHEN IT COMES TO US.
SO THE COMMISSIONERS COULD, UM, SCHEDULE REPORTS LIKE WE, YOU KNOW, SCHEDULE MEETINGS, YOU COULD, YOU COULD PUBLISH A SCHEDULE OF THESE REPORTS AND DATES OR TIMES THAT YOU WANT THEM.
AND, UM, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD WORK ON IF, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSIONERS WANT, JUST THE REPORTS IN WRITING AND THEN THEY CAN, UM, AD HOC SCHEDULE MEETINGS, IF THERE'S MORE.
SO, SO LET ME PROPOSE THAT WE TABLE THIS TODAY AND ASK THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE JUDGES TO ACTUALLY LOOK THROUGH THIS LIST OF REPORTS AND DECIDE AFFIRMATIVELY, WHICH, WHICH REPORTS, UH, THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT WOULD LIKE TO HAVE.
AND THEN I'LL BE HAPPY TO COORDINATE WITH THE, WITH KAREN AND THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, UH, AND TRY TO COME UP WITH A, UH, UH, DATE OF, OF WRITTEN SUBMISSION AND THEN, UH, BRING IT UP, BRING IT BACK WITH THAT REVISION, UH, REQUIRED REPORTS ARE A NO BRAINER, RIGHT? THOSE THINGS ARE STATUTORILY SET.
THEY'LL RECEIVE THE SHARE OF THE NON GRAZER.
OH, THERE'S THERE'S THERE'S MANY OTHERS.
SO I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS LET'S JUST PULL OUT THE REQUIRED REPORTS BECAUSE THAT IS MANDATED.
AND THEN, SO THAT MAKES THE STACK A LOT SMALLER TO GO THROUGH.
W WE CERTAINLY CAN'T CHANGE ANY OF THE STATUTORILY MANDATED.
WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE WE SEE.
SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS JUDGE.
WE HAVE MOTION, CRUCIAL CASE TO TABLE ITEM 16 IS HER SECOND, SECOND, SECOND, COMMISSIONER BARBARA, DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED NO MOTION CARRIES ITEM 17.
[17. Commissioner Cates; Discuss/Consider establishing an "Invitation to Present During Commissioners Court" for all Kaufman County Elected Officials.]
I WOULD ASSUME YOU WOULD WANT TO DO THE SAME THING WITH THAT OR NOT.I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO TABLE THAT 17 COMMITTEE.
KATE'S MAKES MOTION TO TABLE ITEM 17.
IS THERE A SECOND, A SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING I WAS SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT MOTION CARRIES AUTOMATE TEAM.
[18. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider approving North Central Texas Housing Finance Corporation General Certificate regarding Multifamily Housing Revenue Bonds Series 2021.]
THAT'S MINE DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING NORTEC NORTH CENTRAL, TEXAS HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION, GENERAL CERTIFICATE REGARDING MULTIFAMILY HOUSING REVENUE, BONDS SERIES 2021, JUST TO REFRESH.UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS THIS GOES BACK, BUT THERE IS THIS FINANCE CORPORATION.
IT'S AN AUTHORITY THAT HAS THE AUTHORITY TO SELL BONDS, TO SUPPORT, UH, UH, BASICALLY LOW INCOME HOUSING.
WAYNE, UH, JUDGE GENT IS STILL OUR
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REPRESENTATIVE ON THAT DISTRICT.AND THIS IS A PROCESS THAT WE HAVE TO APPROVE THEM.
UM, WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO APPROVE THAT TO SEND THEM A LETTER, APPROVING THEM TO GO OUT FOR THESE REVENUE BONDS TO BUILD A APARTMENT COMPLEX.
AND I HAVEN'T EVEN REALLY BEEN ABLE TO DETERMINE EXACTLY WHERE THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX HE IS, BUT IT GIVES IT DOESN'T REALLY MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE TO US.
SO, UM, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE NORTH CENTRAL, TEXAS HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION, GENERAL CERTIFICATE REGARDING A MULTIFAMILY HOUSING REVENUE BOND SERIES 2021.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND, SECOND ONE COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.
YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT? NO.
AND, AND, AND WE DIDN'T SELL BONDS FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS, SEVERAL COUPLE OF YEARS, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THE BOND MARKET WAS SO BAD AND WE'D DONE IT ALL THE WAY FROM AUSTIN TO THE COFFIN.
SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THIS IS A GOOD PROJECT AND IT'S FOR LOW INCOME HOUSING AND, AND HUD HOUSING, DIFFERENT BONDS.
SO THAT DEVELOPED AND WELL, YOU'RE NOT ON THE LIST, IT'S ON MY LIST ANYWHERE.
SO ANYWAY, SO WE HAVE, I MADE THE MOTION COMMISSIONER.
ANY MORE DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE.
[19. Raylan Smith; Discuss & consider the trade-in of Asset #7886 and the purchase of a 2020 KOMATSU WA320-8; for total purchase price of $134,260.00 from Kirby-Smith Machinery; utilizing BuyBoard Contract #599-19; for Precinct #3.]
19.RAYLAND DISCUSS, CONSIDER THE TRADE IN ASSET SEVEN, EIGHT 86 IN PURCHASE OF A 20, 20 KOMATSU, WHATEVER IT IS, TOTAL PURCHASE PRICE, $134,260 FROM KIRBY SMITH.
THIS IS B FOR A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT FOR PRECINCT THREE, AND ALSO PERMISSION FOR THE TRADE-IN QUESTIONS.
JUST TO LET Y'ALL KNOW IT'S FOR A FRONT END LOADER WE, THE ONE WE HAVE IS OLD AND MORE OUT AND JUST DOESN'T HAVE ANY MORE LIFE LEFT IN IT.
SO WE'RE HAVING TO REPLACE IT AND THEY GAVE US THE BEST DEAL ON IT.
SO, UH, REQUEST, WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.
THAT'S A MOTION FOR PERMISSION OR BARBER TO, UH, MAKE THAT PURCHASE AND TRADE IN.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER CAGE DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE.
[20. Raylan Smith; Discuss and consider permission to solicit RFP 21-15: Animal Services & Pet Adoption Center Operations.]
ITEM 20.RAYLAND DISCUSS CONSIDER PERMISSION TO SOLICIT RFP 2115 ANIMAL SERVICES AND PET ADOPTION CENTER OPERATIONS.
THIS WOULD BE AN RFP FOR THE PET ADOPTION SIDE OF THE NEW FACILITY.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR ORGANIZATIONS INTERESTED IN COMING IN AND TAKING OVER THE OPERATIONS SIDE.
AND SO IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE A PROPOSAL COST THAT THEY WOULD SEND FORWARD.
PLUS THE STATEMENT OF QUALIFICATIONS.
SO YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE, UM, ANNUAL COST GOING INTO THE FACILITY QUESTIONS.
IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO, UH, SOLICIT RFP 2115? SO MOVE.
WE HAVE THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER KATES.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.
[21. Auditor; Discuss/Consider line item transfers]
21, UH, MATTER MONITOR LINE ITEM TRANSFERS.NO GIVEN MORNING I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
I WAS GOING TO SAY SOMETHING, BUT IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS ABOUT A LOT, I DON'T TRANSFER IS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED? SO WE'LL MOVE.
WE HAD A MOTION COMMISSIONER AND CATES.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND ARE COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSION.
THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.
[22. Auditor; Discuss/Consider claims for payment.]
OUT OF 41.AUDITOR DISCUSS CONSIDER CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT.
YOUR CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT ARE $408,034 AND 96 CENTS QUESTIONS.
IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE CLAIM FOR PAYMENT AS PRESENTED? MAKE A MOTION WHERE THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS IS HER SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER.
KATE'S DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR.
THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.
[23. Judge Richards; Discuss/consider exiting regular meeting and enter into executive session,]
23.DISCUSS, CONSIDER, DISCUSS, CONSIDER EXITING REGULAR MEETING AND ENTERING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
IS THERE A MOTION TO DO SO, SO MOVE.
WE HAD THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER CATES.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND SEGMENT COMMISSIONER BARBER DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE OPPOSED.
[24. Executive Session; Pursuant to section 551.074 of the Texas Government Code, the Commissioners Court will meet in closed session to discuss the Communications/Economic Development Coordinator Position.]
ARE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION FIVE 51.074 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT WILL MEET IN CLOSED SESSION TO DISCUSS THE COMMUNICATIONS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR POSITION.
DISCUSS EXITING EXECUTIVE SESSION IN THE HEARING BACK IN THE RECORD
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SESSION IS A MOTION TO GO BACK INTO REGULAR SESSION AND COMMISSIONER BARBARA,[25. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider exiting executive session and entering back into regular meeting.]
THAT MOTION CARRIES A 26 TO DISCUSS TAKING ANY ACTION COMING OUT OF THE SESSION.THERE WAS NO ACTION TAKEN IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
[26. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider taking any action needed as a result of executive session.]
COMING OUT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.SO THAT BRINGS US TO, DID WE NOT HAVE ANY, LET ME BACK UP.
DID WE NOT HAVE ANY ACTION FROM WHAT WE DECIDED TO DO THERE? NOPE.
THIS WAS ALREADY ON THE RECORD.
[27. Adjourn Regular Meeting]
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, DURING THIS MEETING.WOULD ANYBODY CARE TO SECOND COMMISSIONER RULES? MOTION MR. BARBARA SECONDS.