Jul 06, 2021 Commissioners Court

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GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.

[Call to Order]

AND THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING ROOM LOCATED IN THE COURTHOUSE, ANNEX AND KAUFMAN HOPE EVERYBODY HAD A GREAT, UH, HAPPY FOURTH.

WE, UH, WE STARTED A MEETING THIS MORNING AS NORMAL WITH THE INVOCATION FROM PASTOR.

KYLE IS BACK WITH US TODAY, AND THEN I'LL ASK, UH, COMMISSIONER CAGE.

IF HE WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGES, PLEASE STAND GOOD MORNING FOR YOU FATHER.

WE THANK YOU LORD, THAT YOU ARE HERE TO LEAD AND GUIDE AND DIRECT US IN THE WAYS OF YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS THROUGHOUT ALL THINGS, FATHER, FATHER, WE ASK YOUR BLESSING UPON THIS TIME FATHER, FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU PROTECT OUR COUNTY TO DO THE THINGS THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

FATHER, WE THANK YOU FATHER FOR THE DECISIONS AND CHOICES THEY MADE TO GROWTH TO BRING GROWTH AND TO OUR COUNTY FATHER.

WE JUST THANK YOU LORD, FOR YOUR LOVE, YOUR MERCY GRACE.

MOST OF ALL, LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR WHO YOU ARE.

AND WE ASK THIS IN THE WONDERFUL NAME OF JESUS CHRIST.

AMEN.

OH MAN.

AMERICA ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL HONOR, THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE HEAT.

ONE SECOND REMINDER ONE.

WELL, WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT TODAY.

UH, COMMISSIONER BARBER IS JOINING US BY, UH, CONFERENCE CALL.

ARE YOU THERE? ARE YOU WITH US COMMISSIONER? YEAH.

OKAY.

UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS OR I DON'T WANT ANY NOTICES COMING FROM THE CLERK THAT DON'T CARE IS TO SPEAK TO US TODAY FROM THE PUBLIC.

SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM TWO, WHICH

[2. CONSENT AGENDA]

THERE ARE TWO ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

UH, ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS.

DO YOU CARE TO PULL AN ITEM OFF FOR DISCUSSION? I'M SORRY, I DON'T HAVE ANY ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE? THANK YOU, KAREN.

UH, SO ITEM TWO ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, IF NO ONE HAS ANY ITEM A THEY DAYCARE TO PULL OFF FOR DISCUSSION, UH, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED, UM, MAKE THAT MOTION MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED.

NO MOTION CARRIES, UH, ITEM THREE.

[3. Rhonda Hughey; Discuss/consider Order to Adopt ADR Fee for Kaufman County.]

DEB IS GOING TO DO THAT.

THIS IS A, IT WAS TAGGED WITH RHONDA HUEY'S NAME ON IT.

OUR DISTRICT CLERK DISCUSS, CONSIDER ORDER TO ADOPT ADR FEE FOR KAUFMAN COUNTY.

DEB BARNER, STANDING.

YEAH, STANDING IN FOR RHONDA HUEY.

I KNOW I LOOK A LOT LIKE HER.

UH, SO THIS IS A FEE THAT THE CLERKS CAN IMPOSE ON ANY CIVIL FILINGS IN ORDER TO START AN ADR SYSTEM WITHIN OUR COUNTY.

AND SO WE'VE GOT IT STARTING OFF JANUARY 1ST.

IT'LL BE $15 FOR CIVIL CASES FILED IN THE COUNTY OR DISTRICT COURTS OR $5 FOR CASES FILED IN THE JUSTICE COURTS.

AND WHAT WE'LL DO IS, UM, CHUCK WILL HAVE TO SET UP A SEPARATE ACCOUNT FOR THAT THOSE FEES TO GO INTO WHEN WE START COLLECTING THEM.

AND THEN ONCE WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY, WE CAN EITHER HIRE SOMEONE TO RUN AN ADR PROGRAM FOR THE COUNTY, OR WE CAN SET UP AN ADR SYSTEM AND, AND, UH, START SUPPLEMENTING PEOPLE'S COSTS FOR THOSE MEDIATION OR ARBITRATION FEES AS NECESSARY.

WOULD YOU JUST GO AHEAD.

YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO COMMENT.

YEAH.

ODYSSEY.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE THOSE SETUP, THEN I'LL HAVE TO SET UP THE REVENUE LINE ITEM FOR IT TO BE PROCEEDED TO, AND THEN GIVE THAT TO MR. CHUCK AND HE CAN LET Y'ALL KNOW ABOUT IT.

OKAY.

WELL, WE'VE GOT A FEW MONTHS TO GET IT ALL WORKED OUT.

SO WE'RE NOT DOING THIS AT THE LAST MINUTE.

AT LEAST JANUARY TO JANUARY, AT LEAST A COUPLE OF DAYS AWAY.

ADR IS ALTERNATIVE DISPUTE RESOLUTION, WHICH IS A PROCESS BY WHICH THE COURTS WILL REFER CASES FOR MEDIATION OR ARBITRATION AS NECESSARY.

SO THAT COURTS ARE, THE CASES CAN BE RESOLVED WITHOUT COURT INTERVENTION.

THE PARTIES GET TO DECIDE THEIR FATE AS OPPOSED TO PUTTING IT BEFORE A JUDGE LIKE IT'S SIMILAR TO CORPORATE MEDIA, IT WILL BE COURT ORDERED MEDIATION JUST THERE'LL BE A SUPPLEMENT OR A PROCESS THAT THEY CAN DO OUR MEDIATOR AS OPPOSED TO WHEN THEY CHOOSE

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OKAY.

IF THERE ARE NONE, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE, APPROVE US, ISSUING AN ORDER TO ADOPT THE ADR FEE FOR COFFIN COUNTY.

SO MOVE WE HAD THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER CATES.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

I'M GETTING A LOT BETTER AT MANAGING THE DELAY ITEM FOUR RAILING

[4. Raylan Smith; Discuss/Consider purchase of material from The Railroad Yard, Inc. in the amount of $63,000, for Precinct #4 R&B.]

GOOD MORNING.

UM, WHAT WE HAVE IS A QUOTE FROM THE RAILROAD YARD, BUT I WANTED TO BRING THIS FORWARD FOR COMMISSIONER'S APPROVAL.

UM, I'M IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO GET A SOLE SOURCE.

UM, I DO THAT.

THIS IS A VENDOR THAT ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS USE BECAUSE OF WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'RE PURCHASING FROM THEM.

AND WE ALSO HAVE TO PURCHASE OUT OF STATE BECAUSE THERE'S NO ONE IN TEXAS THAT CAN PROVIDE THESE RAIL CARS TO Y'ALL.

SO, UM, I, I WANT APPROVAL TO GO OVER THE $50,000 THRESHOLD AND KNOW THAT I'M, WE'LL COME BACK NEXT WEEK EITHER WITH AN RFP OR A SOLE SOURCE SO THAT WE CAN FINALLY GET THE RAIL YARD SQUARED AWAY.

OKAY.

I'M GOOD, MAN.

I DO KNOW THAT THERE'S A, ANOTHER ONE IN MISSISSIPPI OR SOMEWHERE THERE THAT, YEAH, BUT WE TRIED ONE TIME TO ORDER FROM THEM AND WE COULDN'T NEVER, WE WEREN'T SUCCESSFUL AT ALL, BUT NOT NECESSARILY ORDER FROM THEM, BUT JUST TALK TO THEM AND GET THE PRICE, RIGHT.

WE WEREN'T SUCCESSFUL AT ALL.

AND THIS, UH, THIS ISSUE IS ACTUALLY BECOME A CRITICAL BECAUSE WE USE THESE RAIL CARS FOR SPECIAL INSTALLATIONS.

IN THIS CASE, WE ARE GOING TO USE THESE FLAT CARS TO DO EXPEDITIOUSLY, BUILD TWO BRIDGES WHERE WE SIMPLY CANNOT HAVE THE ROAD CLOSED BECAUSE THERE'S MANY, MANY FAMILIES BEYOND THE BRIDGE THAT WOULD BE STRANDED.

UM, SO WITH A RAIL CAR, IN THIS CASE, A FLAT CAR, WE CAN, WE CAN GET THAT THING OPEN IN A DAY OR LESS.

UH, BUT THE CRITICAL THING IS THAT THE REASON WE WENT AHEAD AND SECURE THESE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT REALLY QUITE READY FOR THIS PROJECT IS THAT THEY ALMOST ARE NON-EXISTENT TO BE ABLE TO GET SO I, WE STRUCK THIS DEAL TO BE ABLE TO BUY THESE AND THEY WILL CONTINUE TO HOLD THEM IN THEIR YARD FOR US UNTIL WE'RE READY.

SO THE SUPPLY IS REALLY BECOMING CRITICALLY SHORT QUESTIONS.

NOPE.

OKAY.

THEN WHAT'S BEFORE US LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO, UH, AUTHORIZE THE PURCHASE OF MATERIAL FROM THE RAILROAD YARD IN THE AMOUNT OF $63,000 FOR A PRECINCT FOUR, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION WITH THAT MOTION.

COMMISSIONER CASES ARE SECOND, SAY SECOND COMMISSIONER HUNT, DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED NO MOTION CARRIES BACK TO RAELYNN DISCUSS

[5. Raylan Smith; Discuss/Consider approval of a 36-month commercial lease agreement between 101 N Houston St, LLC and Kaufman County for property located at 101 N. Houston Street, Kaufman.]

UM, I PUT IN YOUR PACKET A COPY OF THE ACTUAL COMMERCIAL LEASE AGREEMENT THAT WAS NEGOTIATED BY, UM, THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

UM, WE HAVE SETTLED ON A MONTHLY, UH, LEASE FOR 36 MONTHS.

THERE WILL BE NO ANNUAL RENT ESCALATION AND THE LANDLORD IS TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR HPAC PLUMBING, ELECTRICAL IMPULSES, THE CONTROL.

WELL, CONGRATULATIONS ON THE EFFORT TO GET ALL OF THE MAINTENANCE AND STUFF TAKEN CARE OF.

THAT'S THAT'S REALLY UNUSUAL SITUATION.

UM, DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR RAELYNN? THAT'S LEGAL PEOPLE ARE GOOD.

IT IS.

OKAY.

THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT 36 MONTH LEASE AS PRESENTED IN ITEM FIVE? I LIKE THE MOTION WITH THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER HUNT.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES ITEM SIX.

[6. Raylan Smith; Discuss/Consider receipt, transfer, and disposal of County owned assets.]

WE HAVE TWO VEHICLES FROM CONSTABLE TWO THAT ARE READY TO GO TO AUCTION QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE DISPOSAL OF COUNTY ASSETS AS PRESENTED? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER IN CAGE DISCUSSION

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[7. Raylan Smith; Discuss/Consider purchase of a Broce RJT350 Road Construction Sweeper in the amount of $62,527.80; utilizing Buyboard contract #597-19; for Precinct #1.]

THAT IS FOR PRECINCT ONE.

THIS WILL BE FOR A NEW PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.

AND I DID SPEAK WITH THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE THIS MORNING ABOUT, UH, COMMISSIONER.

HUNT'S GOT SOME EQUIPMENT THAT HE HAS SOLD.

SO, UH, WE WILL BE HOLDING THIS VEHICLE OR A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT FOR HIM.

QUESTIONS AM I GOT MOTION THAT WOULD PURCHASE IT.

WE HAVE A MOTION COMMISSIONER HUNT TO PURCHASE.

UH, THAT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT IS PRESENTED AN ITEM SEVEN.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER KATE'S DISCUSSION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED.

AND OH, THAT MOTION CARRIES LAST ITEM FOR

[8. Raylan Smith; Discuss/Consider approval of Road Construction Contracts and Associated Funding for Precincts 3 and 4 County Road & Bridge Projects in the amount of $1,910,144.86.]

THIS IS JUST TO CLEAN UP A FEW OUTSTANDING INVOICES ON EXISTING CONTRACTS.

AND THEN ALSO WE WERE ABLE TO AWARD TWO ADDITIONAL CONTRACTS FOR PRECINCT THREE QUESTIONS.

IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE RUDD ROAD CONSTRUCTION ROAD CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS AS PRESENTED IN ITEM EIGHT? SO MOVE, WE HAD THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER CATES.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED THAT MOTION CARRIES ITEM NINE.

[9. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider approving NCT9-1-1 County Interlocal Agreement for Local Addressing and GIS Services.]

UM, THIS IS, UH, MONIQUE IS HERE.

MONIQUE.

YOU WANT TO JUST, UH, SAY ANYTHING ABOUT HOW THAT'S GOING.

WE DO A CONTRACT WITH NCT EVERY TWO YEARS AND THEY LAY OUT THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO, UM, FOLLOW, UM, FOR THERE TO BE IN THE NCT DISTRICT AND IN RETURN FOR NO CRITICAL ERRORS, WE GET A SUPPLEMENT OR A QUARTERLY PAYMENT FROM THEM.

IT'S SORT OF AN INCENTIVE TO KEEP, UH, THE, THE DATA AS ACCURATE AS POSSIBLE.

IT'S AN INCENTIVE AND IT ALSO COVERS SOME OF OUR GIS COSTS IN ORDER TO BE IN THAT.

SO IT LAYS OUT THE SCHEME OF WHICH KELLY, IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO HER ON ALL THE ATTRIBUTES AND THE CODES THEY'RE GOING TO USE THIS YEAR OR FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS.

SO IT WAS LOOKED OVER BY LEGAL LEGAL SAY TO LOOK GOOD.

SO, UH, WE'RE JUST READY TO SIGN IN AND IT'S GOOD TILL 2023.

OKAY.

QUESTIONS FOR MONIQUE? NOPE.

SOUND LIKE GOOD PLAN A IS A GOOD PLAN.

SO, UH, LOOK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH NCT 9 1 1 I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION, RIGHT? WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FOR, FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

IS THERE A SECOND SECOND FOR COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, THOSE OPPOSED.

NO MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU, MONIQUE ITEM 10.

[10. Judge Richards; requesting disbursement of the unclaimed capital credits fund from the Texas Comptroller of Public Accounts.]

THIS IS A DEAL COMES THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH ELECTRIC CO-OPS AND UH, WE MAKE APPLICATION TO THOSE FUNDS AND AUDITOR.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT ABOUT CHANGES EVERY YEAR? SO WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING TO FILL OUT THE FORM AND GET APPROVAL TO ASK FOR THAT DISBURSEMENT QUESTIONS.

UH, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT REQUEST? SO MOVE WHERE THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER IN CASES ARE SECOND I'LL SECOND, A SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES ARE THE TREASURER, CHUCK MONCUR

[11. Chuck Mohnkern; Discuss/Consider approval to contact Levee Improvement Districts 1 and 5 concerning the transfer of funds owned by the LID's and held by Kaufman County.]

YEAH, THIS IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE JUST DID WITH THE LEVY DISTRICT.

NUMBER SIX, UH, TRANSFERRED THE FUNDS THAT WE HELD FOR THEM TO AN ACCOUNT THAT THEY HAD OPENED.

AND WHAT I'M UH, ASKING FOR IS PERMISSION TO THE SAME FOR THE TWO REMAINING ACTIVE LEVEE DISTRICTS LEVY DISTRICT NUMBER ONE, LEVEE DISTRICT NUMBER FIVE, UH, GO TO THEIR BOARDS AND REQUEST

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AND THEN ONCE I HAVE VERIFIED THAT THAT, UH, ACCOUNT HAS BEEN OPENED FOR THE PROPER PURPOSE AND IN THEIR NAME, THEN WE WILL TRANSFER THE MONEY THAT WE HOLD THAT BELONGS TO THEM, TO THEIR ACCOUNT.

AND THEN WE'LL CLOSE THOSE ACCOUNTS IN AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK.

AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE HOLDING $65,970 FOR DISTRICT ONE AND $16,831 FOR DISTRICT FIVE.

DISTRICT FIVE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS HAD ANY ACTIVITY IN THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS.

THEY PURCHASED BONDS FOR THEIR, UH, UH, BOARD EVERY YEAR AND THEN SEND US THE, UH, RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE PAYMENT OF IT AND THE INVOICE.

AND THEN I TURNED THAT OVER TO KAREN'S OFFICE.

THEY PROCESS THE PAYMENT AND THEN WE SEND OUT THE CHECKS FOR THEM.

UH, LEVY DISTRICT NUMBER ONE HAS HAD NO ACTIVITY AT ALL IN THE PAST.

WELL, SINCE 2013, UM, WELL IT SEEMS LIKE LEE, LESS CLUTTER FOR US TO DEAL WITH IF WE COULD PUSH THAT OFF ONTO THEM AND IT WOULD MAKE US MORE ATTRACTIVE TO AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK BECAUSE THIS IS JUST COSTING THEM MONEY TO HOLD THESE ACCOUNTS THAT HAVE NO ACTIVITY AND HOLD THEM FOR US.

AND, AND THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S ACTUALLY LEVY DISTRICT MONEY.

ANYWAY, QUESTIONS FOR MR. MONACAN.

UH, IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, APPROVE HIS CONTACTING THE LEVY IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS TO START THAT PROCESS? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

WE HAVE MOTION COMMISSIONER HUNT.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES ITEM 12, THE SHERIFF AND

[12. Sheriff/DA; Discuss/Consider/Approve Order establishing juvenile curfew for Kaufman County.]

GOOD MORNING, JUDGE COMMISSIONERS.

UH, I WILL LET YOU KNOW, I HAVE JUDGE GRAY ON THE PHONE.

UH, SHE IS BEEN PART OF THIS PROCESS, SO I TOLD HER I'D GET HER SHE'S OUT OF THE OFFICE.

SHE WANTED TO BE PART OF IT.

UH, SHE KIND OF BROUGHT THIS MICHELLE HARDER, UH, THE MORNING.

SO WE'VE KIND OF BROUGHT THIS TOGETHER.

SHE, UH, WE KIND OF LOOKED IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.

SHE KIND OF BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION.

UH, SHE CALLED ME, I GOT OUT THE DA, GOT OUT THE CHIEF, UH, PIECE AND WE STARTED LOOKING AT EVERYTHING AND WE HAD A LITTLE WORKSHOP ON IT.

WHAT WOULD BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COUNTY FOR THIS CURFEW? UH, SO WE GOT TOGETHER.

I'LL LET THE DA TALK ABOUT THE, BUT I'LL KIND OF LET CHIEF TALK ABOUT WHAT SHE'S GOT AND WHAT SHE'S SEEN BECAUSE WE'VE ALL SEEN JUVENILE CRIME GO UP.

UH, BUT SHE'S GOT SOME STATS FORCE COUNT.

TELL ABOUT HER OFFICE.

GREAT.

YESTERDAY.

I WAS TAKING A SECOND LOOK AT THESE STATISTICS AND REDOING THE MATH.

AND THERE'S ONE NUMBER THAT I'M SORRY, SORRY.

YOU SPEAK IN FRONT OF THERE'S.

ONE NUMBER THAT I THINK IS, UH, THAT I NEED TO FOCUS ON.

WE'VE HAD AN 81% INCREASE IN FELONY OFFENSES IN THE PAST THREE YEARS, 81% IN THREE YEARS IN FELONIES Y'ALL KNOW CRIME IS UP.

POPULATION HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THAT.

AND KIDS ARE OUT AT NIGHT.

THEY ARE OUT ON THE STREET.

AND I THINK THIS CURFEWS, I WONDERFUL IDEA.

IT IS A, I THINK IT'S GREAT FOR THE SHERIFF TO TAKE THIS ON BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME COMPLICATIONS INVOLVED, NOT NECESSARILY FOR THE COUNTY, BUT FOR WHAT I DO AND FOR WHAT HE DOES.

BUT I THINK IT'S THE FIRST STEP IN CATCHING THESE KIDS BEFORE THEY GET TO THAT FELONY LEVEL.

THESE ARE CLASS C MISDEMEANORS.

SO, UM, THAT WAS THE ONE NUMBER I HAVE A LOT OF NUMBERS I COULD CONFUSE YOU WITH, BUT THAT IS THE MAIN FOCUS.

FELONY REFERRALS ARE SKYROCKETING.

AND IF WE CAN STOP THESE KIDS, WHEN THEY'RE LOITERING AT NIGHT, THEN WE CAN STOP THAT NEXT FELONY FROM HAPPENING.

SO I SUPPORT THIS 100%.

IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, I'M AVAILABLE.

LET JUDGE GREG.

YEAH, JUDGE, IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND SPEAK.

YEP.

SO SOME OF THE, THE IBA CAME FROM THE FACT THAT WE, YOU KNOW, I WAS HAVING DETENTION HEARINGS, A LOT OF DETENTION HEARINGS ON KARTHUS, BERKELEY OF THE VEHICLE, A LOT OF, UM, GUN-RELATED UM, ALL FENCES.

AND SINCE THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT HAS STARTED WORKING SOME OF THESE AREAS THAT A LOT OF THOSE OFFENSES WERE OCCURRING IN, THEY THEY'VE BEEN HAD, THEY'VE HAD A HIGH PRESENCE THERE AND THE NUMBER OF DETENTION HEARINGS STARTED GOING DOWN.

SO THAT GOT ME THINKING ABOUT A CURFEW AND I REACHED OUT TO THE SHERIFF, BUT, UM, IF WE CAN STOP,

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THEN I, I THINK, UH, THE NUMBER OF VIOLENT CRIMES WILL GO DOWN.

UM, IT WILL HELP OUR, ALL OF OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT.

IT WILL HELP OUR CITIZENS.

NOT THINK OUR CITIZENS ARE GOING TO BE HAPPY WITH IT.

THE FEW PEOPLE THAT I'VE TALKED TO ABOUT THIS OR THRILLED ABOUT IT.

AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT EVERYDAY CITIZENS, WHEN I SEE KIDS OUT PAST PERFUME, THEY'RE GOING TO CALL AND THEY'RE GOING TO CALL BEFORE THESE KIDS HAVE DONE SOMETHING, UH, VIOLENT, DONE SOMETHING, UM, THAT CAN AFFECT THEIR, THEIR LIVES FOR THE REST OF THEIR, AND A LOT OF THESE CRIMES, JUVENILES DO THINGS AND, UH, MULTIPLE NUMBERS.

AND, UH, THERE'LL BE WITH A GROUP AND IT MIGHT NOT BE ONE KID'S IDEA THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT IF THEY WERE HOME ALONE, THEY WOULD'VE NEVER DONE IT.

BUT WHEN THEY'RE WITH A GROUP, THEY FEEL PRETTY PRESSURE.

AND THEN THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING ON THEIR RECORD THAT THEY HAVE TO WORK THROUGH.

THAT AFFECTS, YOU KNOW, SCHOOL, IT AFFECTS COLLEGE.

IT AFFECTS IF THEY GO INTO THE MILITARY AND IT CAN REALLY AFFECT THEIR LIVES.

AND I THINK THIS WILL HELP THEM.

AND I THINK IT WILL HELP OUR SOCIETY, OUR COMMUNITY.

AND, UM, I THINK A LOT OF PARENTS WOULD PROBABLY GOING TO BE HAPPY TOO.

JUDGE GRAY.

YOU, YOU WOULD AGREE THAT IT'S A GREAT TOOL FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THEIR TOOLKIT, RIGHT? SO I THINK ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WE TALKED ABOUT, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT IT FOR THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT IS WHAT OTHER COUNTIES, WHAT OTHER COUNTY, WHAT OTHER COUNTIES ALSO HAVE DONE THIS? BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION LEGALLY YOU'RE LOOKING AT.

IS THERE AN ISSUE SINCE IT'S A COUNTY, BECAUSE MOST CITIES HAVE A CURFEW.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT THE CITIES DON'T ENFORCE THOSE CURFEWS, BUT WE DON'T ALWAYS SEE THAT THEY'RE ENFORCED.

I DON'T, I'M NOT CALLING OUT ANYONE BUT COUNTIES, DALLAS COUNTY HAS A CURFEW.

EL PASO HAS A CURFEW MONTGOMERY COUNTY, WHICH IS STILL LARGER THAN US, HAS A CURFEW PARIS AND NEW ACES HAS A CURFEW.

AND IN OUR WORKSHOP, WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT.

SO ONCE YOU GUYS TO JUST FOCUS, YOU MIGHT GET A LITTLE FEEDBACK FROM YOUR CONSTITUENTS IS WE TRIED TO BE VERY GENEROUS WITH TIME IN THE SUMMER.

WE WENT TO MIDNIGHT.

NO KIDS SHOULD BE OUT AFTER MIDNIGHT WITHOUT A PARENT.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT ORDER, THE MEAT OF THE ORDER IS IN SECTION A, UM, UH, SECTION ONE A, WHICH IS PAGE ONE.

AND IT TALKS ABOUT THE TIME.

SO THE TIME IS GOING TO BE MIDNIGHT AND TILL 6:00 AM THAT'S, THAT'S NOTHING.

I MEAN, THE KIDS SHOULDN'T BE OUT PAST MIDNIGHT WITHOUT A PARENT IN THE FALL WHEN SCHOOL STARTS AND IT'S A TRIGGER THERE.

SO WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A DATE.

CERTAIN WHEN SCHOOL STARTS, IT'S 11 OF COURSE PM.

THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS, OF COURSE, FOR SCHOOL ACTIVITIES.

THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS FOR HOMESCHOOLERS.

THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS FOR AN EMERGENCY.

UH, IF YOU GO THROUGH THE ORDER, I WILL TELL YOU, YOU'RE WELCOME TO READ IT IN DETAIL.

I KNOW YOU DID BEFORE YOU PREPARED FOR YOUR MEETING TODAY, BUT WE'VE KIND OF GONE OVER IT TO NOT MAKE IT ONEROUS.

UM, BUT THIS IS JUST TO ALLOW A POLICE OFFICER IN OUR CASE, A DEPUTY, SINCE IT'S A COUNTY POLICY TO HAVE CONTACT WITH THAT CHILD, ASK THEM QUESTIONS.

WE ARE NOT TRYING TO ARREST, UH, JUVENILES.

WE'RE NOT TRYING TO REST CHILDREN, BUT WE ARE GOING TO START NOTIFYING PARENTS.

IF THEIR CHILDREN ARE OUT AFTER MIDNIGHT, WITHOUT AN EMERGENCY, WE ARE GOING TO CONTACT THEM.

SHARE THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IS, IS TAKING THAT ON THE, UM, CHIEF PROBATION OFFICERS.

NO, THAT'S MORE CALLING THE DA'S OFFICE KNOWS THAT THAT IS GOING TO IMPACT MAYBE SOME OF, EVEN OUR CASES.

CAUSE IT MIGHT END UP WITH MORE REVOCATIONS ON KIDS THAT ARE ON PROBATION.

AND WE'RE PREPARED FOR THAT BECAUSE NOT ONLY IS IT A COMMUNITY SAFETY, IT'S THE SAFETY FOR THE CHILDREN.

LAURA GETS VERY EMOTIONAL.

SO I'LL SAY IT FOR HER IN THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF, WE'VE ACTUALLY LOST KIDS.

THEY, THEY THEY'RE DEAD BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN OUT PAST THE CERTAIN HOURS.

AND SO THIS IS ALSO EVEN THOUGH JUST LIKE MOST CHILDREN, THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOOD FOR THEM.

THIS GIVES US A TOOL.

WE MIGHT ACTUALLY NOT ONLY PROTECT OUR PROPERTY, THAT'S IMPORTANT, BUT WE MIGHT ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO SAVE A COUPLE OF KIDS THAT ARE OUT PASTOR START AN HOUR.

AND I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU, THAT WE DID GO OVER THE LEGALITY OF IT IT'S BEEN DONE BECAUSE THIS IS NOT A CITY WITH A CAR FEE.

WE ARE A COUNTY THAT WOULD BE IMPOSING A CURFEW, NOT TO, YOU KNOW, BE REDUNDANT, OBVIOUSLY ALL THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS AND SHERIFF.

AND I'VE SAID, WE'RE GOING TO GET BACK WITH OUR CHIEFS AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE AWARE OF OUR CURFEW, THAT WE DON'T HAVE A CONFLICT WITH ANY OF THE CITIES.

BUT WE WANTED TO PRESENT THAT TO YOU GUYS AND KNOW THAT WE ARE, WE ARE, WE ARE SERIOUS WITH ZERO TOLERANCE.

WE HAVE ANECDOTALLY SEEN A CHANGE AND I COMMEND THE SHERIFF AND THE CONSTABLES UP IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY.

WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE VIOLENCE IN KAUFMAN COUNTY, COMMITTED BY ANYBODY THAT WE CAN STOP.

AND WE KNOW THIS IS GOING TO CHANGE THE DYNAMICS OF JUVENILE CRIME.

AS FAR AS WE'RE CONCERNED, THEY CAN MOVE BACK, UH, WEST.

WE DON'T CARE,

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SO THAT, THAT IS THE THRUST OF IT.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY HARD DATA.

WE'VE SEEN THE FACT THAT WE'VE MADE IN THE STEPPED UP TO DO THOSE THINGS.

AND WE THINK THIS IS JUST YET ANOTHER TOOL.

AND I COMMEND THE JUDGE FOR, FOR ASKING US TO DO THIS.

AND, UH, I THINK THE GOOD THING IS, IS WHAT WE'RE ALL LOOKING AT.

WE ALL ALL BEEN, UH, WE'VE PARENTS.

UH, OUR PARENTS TOLD US BACK IN THE DAY, NOTHING HAPPENS GOOD AFTER MIDNIGHT.

UH, AND PLUS THE PEER PRESSURE OF ALL THESE KIDS GETTING TOGETHER.

THAT'S, WHAT'S GOING TO REALLY HELP, IS TRYING TO STOP THAT.

AND IT'S GOING TO GIVE SOME OF THESE PARENTS, I THINK, A LEG TO STAND ON TO TAYLOR KID, HEY, GUESS WHAT? IT'S AGAINST THE RULES, IT'S AGAINST THE LAW TO DO THAT.

SO I THINK THAT'S GOING TO HELP SOME OF OUR PARENTS OUT THERE WHO NEEDS A LITTLE BIT OF GUIDANCE TO HELP WITH THAT KID CHILD.

SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S A GREAT, UH, OLDER THAT WE, IF Y'ALL WILL INTRODUCE, I THINK WE'VE DONE OUR HOMEWORK.

I THINK WE'VE DONE OUR, UH, MEETING AND MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT HERE TRYING TO PUNISH NOBODY.

WE'RE JUST HERE TRYING TO SAVE KIDS' LIVES AND STOP CRIME AND VIOLENCE IN OUR COUNTY.

THERE IS A PUNISHMENT OR A PENALTY BECAUSE THERE'S THERE'S, IF THERE'S NOT ANY, UM, THERE IS A PENALTY JUST TO MAKE SURE THERE'S CLEAR, IT'S A CLASS C, SO IT'S A FINE, BUT WE BEGAN AT A HUNDRED DOLLARS NOT TO EXCEED 500 ON CLASS C.

SO OUR JPS WILL BE REALLY HAPPY WITH THIS, BUT, UM, IT JUST IS WHAT IT IS.

WHAT'S THAT Y'ALL GOT ANY QUESTIONS, QUESTIONS.

UH, I GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

NO, G W WHAT IMPACT DO YOU ANTICIPATE IT WILL BE ON, ON THE SHERIFF OR CONSTABLE WORKFORCE WITH THIS? I MEAN, WE'RE RIGHT NOW, WE'RE, WE'RE UP THERE AS WE'RE DOING ALL THIS, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I DON'T SEE THE IMPACT BECAUSE WE NEED TO BE UP THERE ANYHOW.

AND IF WE SEE THIS AND IF YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW THEY'RE DEALING WITH SUMMIT, WE DON'T HAVE ANY TEETH.

WE NEED SOME TEETH TO DEAL WITH THIS AND DOING THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE IMPACT.

IT'S, IT'S LIKE ANYTHING.

UH, I DON'T THINK THE IMPACTS THAT BIG WAS JUST GOING TO GIVE US THE TEETH TO DO THAT, TO DETER IT DOWN THE ROAD.

SO I THINK DOWN THE ROAD, IT'S GOING TO HELP US ALSO, UH, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THAT YOU GUYS WORKSHOP THIS.

HAS THERE BEEN ANY INTERACTION WITH THE COMMUNITY LEADERS IN THE COUNTY? THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.

THE ANSWER IS NO, WE THINK THE FIRST STOP IS HERE AND THEN IF WE GET APPROVAL OF IT, THEN I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA TO ROLL THAT OUT TO THE DIFFERENT AREAS, THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AND THE SHERIFF, MIKE CAN SPEAK TO THAT.

HE'S BEEN VERY INVOLVED WITH HIM WITH SOME OF THE INTERDICTION HE'S DONE THAT REALLY DON'T NEED TO REALLY DISCUSS, UM, BUT THAT HE IS DOING.

SO I THINK HE'S ALREADY STARTED THAT WITH SOME OTHER THINGS THAT'S HAPPENED IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, UH, WITH THE DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES.

AND SO THIS WAS JUST ANOTHER PIECE WE'LL ADD.

AND I THINK ONCE WE GET THIS ORDER PASSED, WE'LL GO TO THOSE FOLKS, LET THEM KNOW THAT IT'S BEEN PASSED AND MAKE THEM AWARE OF THAT.

AND WE'RE NOT JUST FOCUSING ON THE NORTH SIDE, THAT'S JUST WHERE GOT OUR ATTENTION.

IT NEEDS TO BE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE COUNTY.

CAUSE THE WAY WE'RE SET UP HERE, MANY OF OUR, AS Y'ALL WELL KNOW THE WAY WE'RE SET, IT'S A MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT.

WE NEED TO GO TO THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS, LET THEM KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING, LET THEM KNOW ABOUT THE ENFORCEMENT, MAKE SURE THEY'RE AWARE THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE ANY EVENTS OR ACTIVITIES PAST A CERTAIN TIME, BUT YOU CAN DO ALL THAT STILL.

IF THEY HAVE PARENTS.

I MEAN, IT'S THE CONGREGATION OF KIDS THAT ARE UNACCOMPANIED WITH THEIR PARENTS AND NOT AT AN ACTIVITY.

SO THE ANSWER IS NO.

YEAH.

AND I THINK WHAT, UH, OUR WHOLE GOAL WAS, THIS WAS GETTING IT APPROVED BY THE COURT.

THEN OUR PLAN IS TO HAVE A CAMPAIGN ON EDUCATING PEOPLE.

THIS IS NOT LIKE WHEN WE DO IT TODAY, WE'RE GONNA GO OUT THERE AND JUST GO OUT THERE AND GIVE EVERYBODY TICKETS.

NO, WE NEED A CAMPAIGN.

WE NEED ABOUT A 20 TO 30 DAY CAMPAIGN TO EDUCATE PEOPLE, GO OUT THERE AND GET THEM INVOLVED AND GET THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED.

UH, THE FEW PEOPLE I'VE TALKED TO THEY'RE INGREDIENTS THAT, THAT WE NEEDED, UH, THAT'S GONE AWAY.

WE'RE GONNA TEAR THESE JUVENILES FROM ALL HANGING OUT LATE AT NIGHT.

SO WE WOULD APPRECIATE ANYBODY ON YOUR END OF THE COUNTY THAT YOU'D LIKE US TO COME AND TALK TO ABOUT IT.

WE HADN'T SAID SPECIFICALLY WHEN THE ACTUAL ENFORCEMENT WILL START, BUT I THINK WE'RE ALL THINKING THAT A 30 DAY LAG JUST LIKE ANY TIME THE LEGISLATURE CHANGES A SEATBELT LAW OR ANYTHING, THEY GIVE YOU TIME AND MAKE YOU AWARE OF IT.

WE NEED TO DO THE SAME THING WITH THIS.

WELL, I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, FIRST LET ME JUST SAY I SUPPORT THE CONCEPT.

UH, WE CERTAINLY NEED TO BE PROACTIVE AND, AND TO TRY TO, UH, INTERDICT, IF YOU WILL, UH, PROBLEM BEHAVIOR BEFORE IT HAPPENS, BUT IT IS A RESTRICTION OF YOUR RIGHTS, UH, OF RIGHTS.

AND, UH, IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT SINCE OUR GOAL IS VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE, THAT'S REALLY, THAT'S REALLY THE ULTIMATE GOAL OF, OF EVERY STATUTE.

AND CERTAINLY THIS ONE THAT PERHAPS, UH, PERHAPS IT WOULD BE WORTH CONSIDERING HAVING SOME PUBLIC, UH,

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AND I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT COULD BE DONE EXPEDITIOUSLY, BUT, UH, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE BEFORE WE TAKE THE DRASTIC STEP OF IMPOSING FURTHER RESTRICTIONS ON, ON THE COMMUNITY AND THE COUNTY THAT WE, MAYBE WE OUGHT TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSION WITH, WITH, UH, COMMUNITY LEADERS AROUND THE COUNTY, NOT AGAIN, NOT FOCUSED ON ANY PORTION OF THIS COUNTY, UH, AND START THAT VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE THAT PUBLIC AWARENESS CAMPAIGN BEFORE WE PASS, UH, ANOTHER RESTRICTION ON, ON WHAT MAYOR OR MAY NOT BE, UM, W WHILE IT MAY BE, LET ME RESTATE THAT WHILE, WHILE IT MAY BE IN OUR, UH, CONSIDERED OPINION.

A GOOD IDEA.

I THINK I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FROM MY CONSTITUENTS ABOUT IT FIRST.

WELL, MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND COMMISSIONER, YOU COULD BE OUT TO 2, 3, 4 OR 5:00 AM.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE RIGHTS OF MINORS, WHICH HAVE LESS BECAUSE THEY, YEAH, SO THEY'RE, THEIR PARENTS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE.

SO WE ARE GOING TO, AND I'M ALL FOR THE CAMPAIGN OF MAKING PEOPLE MORE AWARE CAN'T HURT, BUT IT'S ALL NOTIFYING THE PARENTS BECAUSE THE PARENTS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MINORS.

SO WHEN YOU ARE 16 AND YOU'RE OUT IN THE STREET, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO HAVE A GOOD REASON WHY YOU'RE OUT THERE PAST MIDNIGHT, RIGHT.

AND THAT, AND THAT LIABILITY REALLY FOR VIOLATION OF THIS PASSAGE, TO THE PARENT, WHICH IS, WHICH IS REALLY THE PEOPLE THAT WE REPRESENT.

SO I JUST WONDER IF IT WOULDN'T BE AT LEAST WORTH CONSIDERING HAVING SOME, UH, SOME PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE THING, UH, IN ADVANCE OF THE ACTUAL FINALIZATION.

ARE YOU SAYING WE HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING? YEAH.

I MEAN, I WOULD THINK WE WOULD WORKSHOP IT AND HAVE IT, YOU KNOW, QUICKLY AND PUT, PUT THE WORD OUT.

I THINK THAT WOULD, UH, PRESUMPTIVELY THE PUBLIC IS GOING TO EMBRACE IT.

BUT I THINK THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD, UH, THAT WOULD REALLY FOSTER AN ATMOSPHERE OF SUCCESS IF, IF IT'S WELL KNOWN, IF IT'S PUBLICLY DISCUSSED, UM, AND THERE'D BE NO QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.

UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT ITS ORIGIN IS WHAT ITS INTENT IS AND WHAT THE CONSEQUENCES OF A VIOLATION ARE.

JUDGE WILDLY.

I'M THINKING ABOUT SOMETHING YOU TOLD ME ONE TIME ABOUT ANOTHER MATTER, AND I'M THIS I'M REALLY THAT I THINK IT'S, IT'S NOT A BAD IDEA TO JUST GIVE A LITTLE TIME.

YOU SAID YOU TOLD ME THAT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO, UM, FEEL LIKE THEY'VE HAD THE CHANCE TO BE HEARD.

OKAY.

I LOVE IT WHEN MY WORDS COME BACK.

YES.

I DID SAY THAT THE OTHER MATTER, BUT, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HARM IT WOULD BE TO, UH, I'M THINKING ABOUT WHEN SOME OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, UH, WENT TO, UH, STANDARD DRESS OR UNIFORM POLICIES.

UH, AND I KNOW THAT WAS, THERE WERE, THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PARENT WAS.

I MEAN, THIS IS, IT'S NOT THE SAME THING, BUT IT'S A LITTLE BIT DISSIMILAR.

THEY ALL COME THERE.

THERE WAS A LOT OF COMPLAINING BECAUSE NOBODY TOLD US ABOUT THIS OR NOBODY ASKED OUR OPINION.

OF COURSE, MAYBE IT'S THE SAME THING.

NO, IT, IT, I, I, YOU KNOW, IT'S, WE WANTED TO BRING IT TO YOU.

IF YOU GUYS WANT MORE DISCOURSE.

I THINK THAT'S A DECISION.

UM, WE THINK IT'S URGENT OR WE WOULDN'T HAVE DONE IT FOREVER.

WE, UH, WHAT IF WE, IF WE SET IT UP, UH, FOR, TO HAVE A, WE COULD HAVE A FORMAL PUBLIC HEARING ON THE LAST MEETING OF THE JU UH, LAST MEETING IN JULY, RIGHT.

AND, AND, AND ALSO ON THAT SAME AGENDA TO HAVE IT, UH, UP FOR A VOTE.

CAN YOU, CAN YOU, CAN YOU, UH, DO, DO WE KNOW HOW MANY CITIES IS ANY OF THE CITIES IN GOVERNMENT HAVE A CAR FOR YOU? OH, FAR FARNEY DOES KAUFMAN.

I MEAN, MOST OF THEM DAMN, ALMOST EVERYBODY HAS THEM IN THE COUNTY.

DOES THAT HAVE ANY EFFECT OR NOT IMPACT THEM AT ALL? IT'S ONLY OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY.

THIS IS FOR YOU GUYS FOR THE COUNTY, AND THAT'S WHY WE BROUGHT IT TO YOU.

WE'VE DONE, WE'VE ALREADY SEEN THE NUMBERS GOING UP.

WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND THIS IS JUST ANOTHER TEETH IN TO TRY TO EDUCATE THEM AND TRYING TO STOP JUVENILE CRIME.

AND WE, THAT'S WHY WE BROUGHT IT TO YOU.

AND THANK YOU.

IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO BRING IT FORWARD AND GET IT MOVING FORWARD WHERE WE CAN, CAN DO THIS.

YEAH.

SO IT'S A GOOD IDEA.

YEAH.

IT WAS EVERY TIME THAT WE DELAY, THAT'S JUST ANOTHER CHANCE TO KNOW THE KID GETS IN TROUBLE OR AS ANOTHER KID CAN CONDUCT.

BUT, BUT, UH, BUT THIS PROPOSAL TO PUT IT ON, WE'LL HAVE A SCHEDULE, A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE LAST MEETING IN JULY AND THEN VOTE ON AT THE END.

WAS THAT, WOULD THAT BE OKAY? YEAH, OF COURSE.

IT'S, IT'S, IT'S YOUR PREROGATIVE.

IF THAT'S A PREROGATIVE I'M ASKING FOR,

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IT'S THE SUMMER SCHOOL STARTS AUGUST.

SO I DON'T KNOW.

IT'S FINE.

IT'S, UH, I THINK THAT YOU'RE YOU INVITING, UH, CONVERSATION'S ALWAYS A GOOD THING.

UM, BUT WE HAVE TO ACT WITH Y'ALL BECAUSE AS THE ACTING BODY SURE.

UM, WE'VE ALREADY, I CAN'T SAY WE HAVE DONE WHAT, UH, COMMISSIONER CATES IS SAYING.

WE HAVE NOT GONE, YOU KNOW, AND HAD PUBLIC HEARINGS.

SO WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT.

I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR, UH, WE'RE NOT A BODY TO DO THAT.

WE'RE JUST ACTING AS LAW ENFORCEMENT IN A PROTECTION MODE, AND THIS WAS WHAT WE DEEMED TO BE ANOTHER GOOD IDEA.

MY PREDICTION IS THAT IF WE GET THIS OUT INTO THE, IF WE GET THIS IDEA OUT INTO THE PUBLIC, THE RESPONSE IS GOING TO BE OVERWHELMINGLY POSITIVE.

OH.

AND THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF IT WILL, THAT THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR, IT'D BE GOOD FOR, I THINK FOR THE, PARTICULARLY THE LAW ENFORCEMENT SIDE TO KNOW, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE PUT THIS OUT TO PEOPLE AND IT WAS HUGELY.

AND THEN THAT WAS OUR BIG THING IS IMPLEMENTING.

IT WAS MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE A PLENTY, UH, 30 DAYS IS A GOOD DAY TO PUT THAT OUT THERE AND EDUCATING.

I MEAN, WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS, EVERYTHING WE CAN DO TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC AND, AND GET THEM, GET THEM INVOLVED.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT I WAS TELLING YOU.

YOU COULDN'T STAY OUT PAST MIDNIGHT.

WELL, JUDGE, COULD WE, COULD WE CONSIDER, UH, I MEAN, EXPEDITING SOME PUBLIC COMMENT.

I MEAN, WE HAVE A PUBLIC AFFAIRS OFFICER.

MAYBE WE COULD, WE COULD GET IT ON NEXT WEEK'S AGENDA.

UM, OH, SO IT'S NOT THAT FOR A WEEK KNOW WE DON'T MEET NEXT WEEK.

RIGHT.

UM, BUT I I'D LIKE TO OPPORTUNITY TO, TO DISCUSS IT WITH, UH, WITH THE SUPERINTENDENTS OR THE ISD.

SURE.

UM, AND I, I JUST, I JUST REALLY DO FEEL STRONGLY THAT THE PUBLIC OUGHT TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO A BE MADE AWARE OF THE, OF THE, UH, THE PENDING MATTER AND, AND BE THROUGH THAT MECHANISM, GAIN THEIR SUPPORT UPFRONT AS OPPOSED TO, UH, IMPOSING THIS WITHOUT PUBLIC COMMENT.

I THINK IT'D BE VERY VOCAL, RIGHT.

AND WE'LL PUT IT ON OUR WEBSITE AND EVERYBODY CAN COME IN.

IF ANYBODY WANTS TO OPPOSE IT OR ANYBODY THAT'S FAR, IT CAN COME TO THE MEETING.

THERE IS A, UH, ANTIDOTAL ALONG WITH THE ORDER YOU'RE GONNA PUT ON YOUR WEBSITE.

THERE'S A NICE ARTICLE OUT OF PLANO THAT REINSTATED A CURFEW AND THE SUPPORT THEY GOT AND HOW POSITIVE IT WAS.

SO I CAN, THAT CAN BE ADDED.

UM, SURE.

I MEAN, THE, IN THE SAME 30 DAYS THAT WE WOULD GIVE PEOPLE THAT TIME IT'S, WE THEN MIGHT MOVE TO IMPLEMENTATIONAL A LOT QUICKER ONCE IT HAPPENS.

SO IT'S THE SAME DIFFERENCE FOR US.

AND I WILL SAY THIS GOOD, THE, THE, THIS COULD BE THE 30 DAYS THAT YOU'RE GIVING THEM RIGHT HERE.

I MEAN, IF WE DO MAKE IT THE NEXT DAY.

YES.

I THINK THIS IS YEAH.

IN THIS DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW IS IN ITSELF PUBLICITY.

YES.

SURE.

UH, THE ONLY THING I THINK THAT WE MIGHT HAVE AN ISSUE WITH, AND WE WENT BACK AND FORTH IS ON THE PAGE FOUR OF YOUR, UH, THE PROPOSED ORDER, SECTION FIVE, THE PENALTY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE PARENTS ARE SAYING, YOU KNOW, WHY DO I JUST SO YOU'LL KNOW THAT, THAT, THAT MIGHT BE THE PROBLEM, BUT WE WENT WITH A HUNDRED DOLLARS, 50 DOESN'T A HUNDRED WOULD GET MY ATTENTION.

I'VE HAD TO GO PICK UP MY KID AND PAY A HUNDRED DOLLARS.

I'M A LITTLE TICKED.

SO THAT MIGHT GET, YOU KNOW, ATTENTION.

THAT WAS WHY WE WENT WITH THAT NUMBER, OBVIOUSLY OF A PERSON'S INDIGENT.

THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY.

JPS WILL ALWAYS HAVE DISCRETION FOR THAT.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND SO THE WAY THAT THE, THE APPLICATION OF THE PENALTY SECTION WOULD RESULT IN A VIOLATION WILL RESULT IN FIRST, THE FINE TO THE MINOR AND WITHOUT RESPONSE FROM THE PARENT, THE SAME INCIDENT WOULD RESULT IN A SECOND FINE ASSESSED AGAINST THE PARENT.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT THESE, SINCE THEY'RE MONITORS ALWAYS, AND LAURA CAN SPEAK TO THIS, WHAT WE DO WITH ANY FINES IT'S ASSESSED AGAINST THE CHILD AND THE PARENT IS ONE PAYS, IT THEY'RE A MINOR.

SO, UH, I THINK WHAT THAT SECTION SPEAKS TO IS THE FIRST OFFENSE IS A HUNDRED DOLLARS.

THE SECOND OR SUBSEQUENT OFFENSE, IT CANNOT EXCEED $500.

OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A JURISDICTIONAL ISSUE.

SO CAN I ANSWER THAT? SO I, I DO UNDERSTAND, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND IS THE MINER GOING TO BE CHARGED IS THE MINOR WILL WE'LL HAVE A TICKET TO BE CHARGED.

AND, UH, WITHOUT ADEQUATE RESPONSE FROM THE PARENT, THE PARENT WOULD BE CHARGED SEPARATELY.

IS THAT CORRECT? THE PARENT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.

NOW THERE'S NOT ANY LANGUAGE IN HERE.

UM, ON THIS, IT SAYS A PARENT OF

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YEAH.

THE JUDGE, THE JUDGE COULD TAKE THAT CHILD AND COULD ASK THEM HOW THE KID DID COMMUNITY SERVICE.

YOU KNOW, THE KID BOUGHT HAVING ALLOWANCE, LIKE, BUT ULTIMATELY THE PARENTS ARE RESPONSIBLE.

WHAT HE'S ASKING, WHAT HE'S ASKING LAURA CHIEF HE'S, HE'S ASKING IS THE PARENT CHARGED SEPARATELY.

THE COURT COULD, BUT I DON'T THINK THE OFFICER'S GOING TO DO THAT.

YOU'RE GOING TO BE WRITING A TICKET TO THAT JUVENILE WHEN THEY COME INTO COURT.

IT DEPENDS ON THE CONDUCT.

I MEAN, SO MANY FACTORS GET TO BE A WILD FACTOR ONCE YOU GET IN THERE.

YEAH.

I UNDERSTAND.

THE JUDGES IS CHRISTIAN.

I'M JUST TRYING TO TALK ABOUT THE PROCEDURAL, UH, IMPLEMENTATION.

SO THERE'LL BE A JUVENILE CITATION RECORD CREATED, CORRECT? FOR THE JUVENILE.

YES.

AND THEN, UH, BECAUSE A SPEAKS TO A MINOR WHO VIOLATES IT, B SPEAKS TO A PARENT OF A MINOR WHO VIOLATES HIS PROVISION.

UH, SO THAT, I MEAN, THAT JUST, IT IMPLIES TO ME THAT THAT'S TWO SEPARATE OFFENSES, RIGHT? SO YES.

SO THERE'LL BE, THERE'LL BE, UH, A JUVENILE RECORD CREATED.

IF THE PERSON HADN'T BEEN HANDLED PREVIOUSLY, THERE'LL BE, THERE'LL BE CITED.

AND, AND THAT RECORD WILL BE INITIATED.

AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY THE PARENT.

AND I GUESS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ELEMENTS ARE.

THEY HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT.

BUT IF THE PARENT FAILS, RESPOND TO A NOTICE THAT THEIR, THAT THEIR CHILD IS IN VIOLATION, THEN THE PARENT WOULD BE AS AN ADULT SIDED.

WOULD THAT BE THE DEPUTY'S DISCRETION, THEN IT'S GOING TO BE AN EDUCATIONAL DEAL.

I THINK THE BIG THING IS, IS THAT I THINK THE, WHILE THE T3 IN THIS IS BECAUSE IF WE'RE DEALING WITH THE SAME JUVENILE TIME AFTER TIME AT THE TIME, AND WE'RE GETTING NO RESPONSE OUT OF THE PARENT, THAT'S WHY THE TEETH ENTER.

THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WHY IT WOULD BE IN THERE.

I'M NOT, I'M NOT OBJECTING TO THIS.

I UNDERSTAND HOW IT'S APPLIED.

IT COULD BE THERE.

THE APPLICATION REMINDS ME MUCH LIKE A TRUANCY, RIGHT? SO THAT THE SCHOOL, THE KID, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S TO THE CHILD, BUT THEN WHEN THEY, THEY, THE, IT GOES OVER AND OVER AGAIN, THE NEXT STEP IS BECAUSE THE PARENT IS FAILING TO SUPERVISE.

SO YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

THERE COULD BE A SEPARATE OFFENSE.

THE GREAT THING IS THESE ARE ALL SEE, SO IT'S NOT FOR RECORD PURPOSES.

AND LET'S JUST SAY, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO STACK UP A BUNCH OF FINES AGAINST A PARENT THAT'S INDIGENT, BUT WE WOULD, AT SOME POINT THEN HAVE AN ISSUE WITH A PARENT, WHICH IS ANOTHER MECHANISM OUTSIDE OF THIS ORDER OF A PARENT THAT'S THAT WOULD BE REALLY A CHILD IN NEED OF SUPERVISION.