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THIS WORKSHOP MEETING OF THE COFFIN COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT IS CALLED TO ORDER.
UH, TODAY IS WEDNESDAY, JULY 21ST, 2021, 1:00 PM OR IN THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING ROOM LOCATED IN THE COURTHOUSE ANNEX.
[1. To Discuss the Fiscal Year 2021-2022 Budget.]
WE HAVE ONE, WELL, WE HAVE TWO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.ONE OF THEM IS TO DISCUSS THE FA THE FISCAL YEAR, 20 20, 21, 22 BUDGET.
AND THE OTHER ONE IS TO ADJOURN.
I KNOW WHICH ONE WOULD BE MOST POPULAR, BUT WE'VE GOT TO DO THAT FIRST ONE FIRST.
UM, SO I'M GOING TO START, UH, AND AS ALWAYS, I'M GOING TO LEAVE THE, ALL THE DETAILED NUMBER CRUNCHING TO OTHER PEOPLE, STARTING WITH JERRY AND THE AUDITOR.
THEY CAN HELP US WITH ALL THE DETAILS, BUT I DO WANT TO START BY JUST FROM THE, THE PAPER THAT I GOT HERE AND JUST SOME, UM, WELL YOU ARE YOU, AND I'M GOING TO USE THESE LOOSE NUMBERS AND LET THE AUDITOR OR JERRY CORRECT ME IF WE'RE, UM, I'M JUST USING ESTIMATES.
SO RIGHT NOW, WE'RE ABOUT WITH ALL OF THE REQUESTS THAT WE'VE HAD FROM BUDGET REQUEST.
AND ASSUMING THAT WE HAVE A 5% INCREASE IN TAX REVENUE THIS YEAR, THAT WE LIVE WITHIN A 5% TAX REVENUE, WE'RE ABOUT $2.4 MILLION SHORT.
NOW THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT INCLUDES THE ESTIMATE THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE SHERIFF FOR A COMMUNICATIONS TOWER, WHICH IS 2.1 MILLION.
AND WE TALKED THE OTHER DAY, I THINK ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY THAT WE COULD, WE COULD COMMIT THOSE FUNDS OUT OF THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.
AND SO, BUT THAT STILL PUTS US SHORT ABOUT $400,000.
AND THAT'S BEFORE WE ADD ANY POSITIONS OR DO ANYTHING THE RACES.
SO, SO LET'S JUST SAY WE'RE SHORT $400,000 WITH NO ADDITIONS, UH, PERSONNEL OR RACIST.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S TWO PLACES THAT I THINK WE CAN COME UP WITH, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL, UH, UH, REDUCED EXPENDED EXPENDITURES.
ONE OF THEM IS WE, AND WE, I ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THIS LAST YEAR AND WE NEVER FOLLOWED DID MUCH TO, WE HAVE CONSISTENTLY, I THINK WE HAVE POSITIONS IN THE COUNTY THAT ARE BUDGETED, THAT HAVEN'T BEEN FILLED.
AND I CAN'T GIVE YOU THE NUMBER ON THAT YET, BUT I THINK THAT BRANDY OR THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE CAN PROBABLY TELL US WHAT THOSE ARE.
SO OF COURSE WHAT HAPPENS IS IF SOMEBODY HAS A POSITION IN THEIR DEPARTMENT, THAT'S A $50,000 A YEAR POSITION, AND IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT FILLED, THAT'S TAKE, THAT'S TAKEN $50,000 OFF OF OUR AVAILABLE FUNDS, RIGHT? SO I THINK WE SHOULD ASK, UH, THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE TO SCAN THROUGH ALL OF OUR POSITIONS AND SEE WHERE WE HAVE VACANT POSITIONS THAT LOOK LIKE THEY'RE CONSISTENTLY NOT FILLED.
I THINK WE HAVE, HUH? OH, OKAY.
SO I'M ON SO EMPTY VACANT POSITIONS THAT ARE BUDGETED AS ONE PLACE THAT'S AND I'M GOING TO CALL THAT A SUSTAINABLE SOURCE, BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY, IF WE HAVE A CONSISTENT EMPTY POSITION, WE TAKE THAT OFF OF THE BOOKS AND THAT'S, THAT WOULD GO FROM YEAR TO YEAR WOULD BE SUSTAINABLE.
UM, THE OTHER THING, AND THIS IS A LITTLE BIT THE SAME SIMILAR THING, ANOTHER SUSTAINABLE PLACE.
I THINK THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET SOME RELIEF IS JUST OVER BUDGETING IN GENERAL, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ADDED A LOT OF MONEY TO THE FUND BALANCE.
AND ONE OF THE WAYS WE'VE DONE THAT OVER THE YEARS IS BY SPENDING LESS THAN WHAT WE BUDGETED.
UM, SO MAYBE THIS WOULD BE THE TIME FOR US TO LOOK AT OUR DEPARTMENT LINE ITEMS AND SEE WHERE WE'VE BEEN OVER BUDGETING.
SO WE CAN, AGAIN, TRYING TO, TRYING TO COME UP WITH CLOSING THAT $400,000 GAP.
NOW THERE'S SOME OTHER MONEY THAT I THINK THAT'S AVAILABLE TO US, BUT IT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE.
IT'S NOT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE IT NEXT YEAR.
WE HAVE CARE'S MONEY THAT WE REFUND MONEY.
UM, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE, IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, WE HAVE COMMITTED FUND BALANCE.
I THINK THE CARES MONEY IS ABOUT A MILLION.
THE COMMITTED FUND BALANCE WAS ABOUT THE SAME, RIGHT.
AND SO WE COULD USE THAT TO BALANCE OUR BUDGET THIS YEAR, BUT, BUT NEXT YEAR WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE IT.
IT MIGHT TAKE CARE OF THIS YEAR.
AND THEN THE LAST PLACE THAT WE CAN, WE CAN, UH, ADDRESS OR SHORTFALL, WHICH IS MY NUMBER FIVE ON THE LIST IS WE COULD INCREASE TAX REVENUE BY MORE THAN 5%.
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I'VE ALREADY SAID THAT I THINK WE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO LIVE WITH A 5% INCREASE, BUT, UH, THAT'S MY INTRO.AND, UH, ANYBODY WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT BEFORE YOU START MOVING ON INTO THE DETAILS? I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THIS, SO, OKAY, GO KAREN.
BRANDY DO THIS COURSE REALLY NICE.
UM, THE FIRST SHEET IS JUST IN THE GENERAL FUND AND WHEN JERRY BROUGHT THE IDEA TO ME, WE WANTED TO PUT DOWN EACH VACANT POSITION, BUT ALSO I WANT YOU TO PAY ATTENTION TO THAT.
THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT JAIL BECAUSE OF THE STANDARDS.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE FOR THAT.
SO THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
SO AT THE BOTTOM I HAD ASKED HER IF SHE TOOK OUT THE, AND THE CONSTABLE CONTRACTS, BECAUSE THOSE CONSTABLE CONTRACTS, IF YOU ALL APPROVE THEM, THEY'RE JUST A WASH.
BUT THE LESSON, THE, SO, OKAY, YOU GOT THAT.
AND THEN I GAVE YOU ALL ROAD AND BRIDGE AND AIR, ALL THE OTHER FUNDS THAT WE HOLD POSITIONS.
NOW, MY REQUEST TO YOU, IF Y'ALL DECIDE TO DO THAT POSITIONS, THAT YOU DO SOME KIND OF RESOLUTION ORDER, HEAVY LEGAL, DRAW IT UP, THAT WHEN YOU DO THAT, I CAN TAKE THAT AND PUT IT IN CONTINGENCY RIGHT THEN.
SO THAT WAY IT'S NOT, YOU TAKE IT OUT OF THE BUDGET, PUT IT IN THIS YEAR'S CONTINGENCY.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT FURNITURE NEXT YEAR? WE DIDN'T GET IT DONE IN TIME.
AND THEN Y'ALL DECIDED, OH, WE WANT TO STOP POSITIONS FOR REASON.
THEN WE WOULD WANT TO MOVE THAT MONEY TO CONTINGENCY TO KEEP IT FOR SOMETHING ELSE.
IT'S JUST SOMETHING I WAS THINKING OF.
WELL, I THINK, I THINK BY, BY LAW, IF I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE HIM, IF WE TAKE SOMETHING OUT OF THE BUDGET THAT CUTS THEIR THERE, THAT IT CUTS THEIR POSITION, EVEN IF THEY CAN LEAVE THE POSITION, BUT IT CUTS THE FUNDING SO THEY CAN'T HIRE IT.
I MEAN, SO I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE REALLY HAVE TO DO A PAPER FOR THAT.
SO YOU'RE SAYING WE'D LEAVE THE POSITION IN AND JUST KIND OF MADE THE POSITION, BUT WE CUT THE FUNDING.
I THINK THAT KEN WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT ONE TIME.
AND THEN, AND THEN THE POSITIONS THERE.
SO IF SOMETHING COMES UP, WE COULD BUY, WE COULD GIVE THEM MONEY FROM THIS POSITION.
WE COULD, LIKE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENTS, BASICALLY, ANY KIND OF POSITION LIKE THAT.
IN OTHER WORDS, WE COULD SAY, SURE, WE CAN TAKE IT.
AND THEN IF FOR SOME REASON, IF HE REALLY NEEDS THE EMPLOYEES AND ALL OF A SUDDEN HE CAN'T HIRE THEM, WE HAVE THE MONEY LIKE CARES ACT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WE CARRIED OVER INTO CONTINGENCY.
THEN WE CAN TAKE THAT MONEY AND GIVE IT AND, AND MAKE THAT LINE ITEM AT MONEY BY AMENDMENT.
AND FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE GENERAL FUND, WE HAVE A LINE ITEM THAT'S CALLED COUNTY CLERK FEES, AND WE ONLY BUDGETED 950,000.
SO THERE'S TWO FULL MONTHS APART, BUT ANOTHER MOTHER SHE'S ALREADY COLLECTED A ME TO, ALMOST, TO ME, THERE ARE SOME LINE ITEMS THAT WE COULD'VE JUST, MAYBE I COULD MAKE UP THE 400,000 I JUST UP IN HER BUDGET, BUT I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT ON THE REVENUE SIDE AND PUT HER IN JEOPARDY, YOU KNOW? SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE LINE ITEMS AND I HAVE IT ATTACK THEM.
WE HAD, I DON'T WANT TO JERRY TO GET HIS BUDGET AND LET Y'ALL START WORKING ON IT.
AND THEN WE COULD COME BACK AND SAY, WE'RE GONNA UP THIS LINE ITEM ABOUT 50,000, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO JUMP AT 200,000 BECAUSE WE'RE LOWERING THIS.
WHEN WE DID THE CONTRACT ON THE FEDERAL INMATES, WE WOULD MAKE HIM ONE NINE OR MORE.
NOW WE'RE NOT BARELY GOING TO MAKE ONE SEVEN.
SO JERRY AND BRANDY TALKED, SO HE'S GOING TO DROP THAT, BUT LIKE 2, 1, 6.
SO THERE'S ANOTHER 300,000 THAT WE GOT TO MAKE UP FOR IT.
SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE REVENUE LINE ITEMS AND 10, THAT COULD BE ADJUSTED.
BUT, UH, SO KAREN, THE, THE COUNTY CLERK FEES, THEY'RE IN 10, RIGHT? BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT AVAILABLE TO US FOR GENERAL FUND SPENDING.
IS THAT CORRECT? ISN'T THAT THAT'S A DEDICATED FEE.
OUR OTHER FUNDS ARE SPLIT OUT TO HER RECORDS, MANAGEMENT, HER ARCHIVE, FINE INTO HER TECHNOLOGY.
IT IS AVAILABLE FOR, IT'S NOT RESTRICTED ON WHAT IT CAN BE SPED FOR.
NO, THAT COVERS HER DEPARTMENT.
ANYTHING ELSE? I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT LAURA JUST
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TOLD ME THE OTHER DAY THAT THAT FUND WAS LIKE HER BUILDING FUND OR SOMETHING.HE HAS A RECORDS PRESERVATION FUND, WHICH IS RESTRICTED TO COUNTY CLERK USE ONLY, BUT OUR GENERAL FUND, HER GENERAL COLLECTION FUNDS FOR THINGS THAT SHE TAKES IN OVER THE COUNTER AND THOSE THINGS, THOSE GO INTO THE GENERAL.
SO, AND I MEAN, I'M NOT DISPUTING THAT, BUT I, I'M PRETTY SURE THAT I HAD A, YOU KNOW, AN INFORMAL CONVERSATION WITH HER WHERE IN, SHE CLAIMED OWNERSHIP OF THOSE FUNDS.
AND BECAUSE I KNOW SHE HAD HAD SOME DISCUSSION WITH YOU ABOUT BUILDING A RECORDS BUILDING.
JUST, JUST FOR CLARITY, FOR CLARITY, THESE ARE FEES.
SO FEES GO INTO THE GENERAL FUND AND THEN THOSE, SHE HAS THESE OTHER FUNDS THAT SHE HAS ANOTHER MILLION DOLLARS.
SO, YEAH, SHE WAS SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT THE FEE THAT WE HAVE TO REAUTHORIZE.
THAT YOU MAY JUST WANT TO, AS A NON-GENERAL FUND ACCOUNT AND I'M SORRY, THE COUNTY CLERK FEE, AND YOU THINK THERE ARE OTHER FEES THAT ARE LIKE THAT, THAT ARE JUST, THEY JUST GO INTO FUND 10 OR THEY JUST, THEIR GENERAL FUND AND NOT RESTRICTED THAT WE'RE NOT REALLY PUTTING INTO OUR MATH HERE.
WELL, I'M JUST SAYING HE'S KEPT THE SAME AMOUNT THAT WE HAVE BUDGETED THIS YEAR.
AND WE COULD INCREASE THAT REVENUE LINE ITEM BECAUSE SHE'S COLLECTED WAY MORE THAN WHAT WE BUDGETED FOR.
SO THERE'S LINE ITEMS IN THE GENERAL FUND AND REVENUE, I COULD BE ADJUSTED OR TELL JERRY, I THINK WE SHOULD ADD 12,000 HERE.
I THINK YOU SHOULD LOWER 300,000.
I THINK I SHOULD INCREASE 400,000 IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
THERE'S SOME MONEY OUT THERE THAT WE COULD, THERE'S SOME REVENUE THAT WE'RE NOT BUDGETING PROPERLY.
IT'S ALMOST THE INVERSE OF WHAT WE'RE BUDGETING EXPENDITURE ITEMS. WE NEED TO BE MORE PRECISE WITH OUR REVENUE PREDICTIONS ALSO.
WHERE HAS THAT EXCESS MONEY BEEN? IT JUST STAYS IN THAT FUND.
IT BECOMES PART OF YOUR OVERALL FUND BALANCE.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT MAKES UP PART OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN ROLLING INTO FUND BALANCE.
YOU GOT ANYTHING EXTRA AS A FUND.
IF YOU LOOK AT JUST HIGH LEVEL.
SHE HAS LIKE IN, UM, PHONE 42, WHICH IS HER RECORDS MANAGEMENT FUND.
SHE HAS CLOSE TO ME IN DOLLARS.
THEN SHE HAS A RECORDS ARCHIVE FUND THAT HAS ALMOST THAT SAME AMOUNT IN IT.
BUT NOW SHE'S USED SOME OF THOSE FUNDS TO PRESERVE RECORDS.
THEN SHE'S GOT ANOTHER PHONE, SHE'S GOT THREE OF THEM, BUT THOSE THREE ARE RESTRICTED COUNTY CLERK FEES USE FOR THE COUNTY CLERK.
ALTHOUGH IT'S IN YOUR BUDGET, YOU STILL HAVE TO APPROVE WHAT SHE SPENDS IT ON.
THAT'S WHY SHE'LL BRING IT BACK AND SAY, I WANT THAT COMPANY TO DO THESE RECORDS AND IT'S GOING TO COST SO MUCH MORE AND Y'ALL APPROVE IT.
AND THEN WE CHANGED THE BUDGET AND SHE GETS IT.
AND THAT'S FOR THOSE TWO FUNDS.
BUT FOR THE THIRD FUND, THAT'S A GENERAL FUND.
IT COUNTY CLERK FUND IS NOT A RESCREEN.
SO JUST HIGH LEVEL, YOU, YOU GENERATE ABOUT $42 MILLION IN TAX REVENUE AND THEN ANOTHER 13 MILLION IN WHAT'S CALLED OTHER REVENUE.
AND IT FALLS INTO SEVERAL CATEGORIES FOR A TOTAL OF 55 MILLION.
AND I'VE ADJUSTED SOME OF THOSE.
SOME OF THOSE I LIKE I BUMPED UP DEVELOPMENT SERVICES A LITTLE BIT, BUT I DID AFTER THE CONVERSATION TODAY, I TOOK DOWN THAT, THAT FEDERAL AMIT HOUSING, BECAUSE IT'S TRENDING WHERE WE'RE NOT GOING TO HIT THAT ONE NINE.
SO IT'D BE, THERE'S NO PREDICTOR.
WE'RE GOING TO HIT ONE NINE AGAIN.
SO WE NEED TO GO BACK TO PROBABLY THAT ONE AT ONE SIX, NUMBER 1, 6, 5.
AND IF YOU GET UPSIDE, YOU GET UPSIDE AND KNOW THAT IT'S NOT AN EXACT SCIENCE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A BUDGET.
SO WE KIND OF BASE EVERYTHING BASED UPON THE SNAPSHOT THAT WE SEE TODAY OF HOW THESE THINGS ARE TRENDING.
YOU KNOW, TAXES ARE TRENDING DOWN REAL CLOSE TO WHERE WE BUDGETED.
SO THAT, THAT NUMBER IS PRETTY SOLID.
SOME OF THESE ARE UP, SOME OF THESE ARE DOWN, BUT THE NET NET OF IT IS, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF GAIN HERE.
YOU'RE GOING TO MAYBE SEE SOME IN REVENUE.
YOU'RE SAYING YOU WOULD GO AND, AND YOU STILL GET, YOU'RE STILL GONNA HAVE A DELTA.
I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GONNA GET ALL THE WAY THERE.
YOU MIGHT GET TO EVEN, YOU MIGHT GET TO ZERO, BUT THEN YOU GOT TO START ADDRESSING WHAT ABOUT SALARIES AND WAGES FOR THIS COMING YEAR IN THESE POSITION, RIGHT? THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE IN ADDITION TO, CAN I TELL YOU SOMETHING ELSE THAT HURT US? JUST BECAUSE WE COLLECTED MORE PROPERTY TAX THAN WHAT WE PROJECTED AND THAT THEY'RE DINGING US ABOUT 365,000 ARE IN OUR TAX CALCULATION ON YOUR DEBT, ON YOUR DEBT.
SO ON DEBT, YOU HAVE TO GO DOWN AND YOU HAVE TO SAY, HERE'S THE NUMBER WE NEED TO COLLECT BASED UPON WHAT WE, THE REVENUES ARE GOING TO BE.
BUT THE LAW SAYS, IF YOU TAKE IN MORE THAN YOU GOT TO GIVE IT ALL BACK THE NEXT YEAR IN ONE, IN ONE POT, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO PAYMENT
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PLAN.THEY JUST REDUCE THAT AMOUNT FOR THE NEXT YEAR.
THAT'S A NEW LAW, I BELIEVE LAST YEAR OR THE YEAR THAT'S ON THE INS SIDE.
SO IT IS IT'S, IT'S NOT PART OF THIS CONVERSATION IN GENERAL.
IT'S IMPORTANT OBVIOUSLY, BUT IT'S NOT, WE DON'T HAVE ANY FLEXIBILITY IN THAT.
SO, UM, ANYBODY HAVE SUGGESTIONS? I THINK ANOTHER GOOD PLACE TO LOOK, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TROUBLE IT WOULD BE.
KAREN, IF WE COULD GO BACK AND LOOK AND SAY THE LAST THREE YEARS, HOW PEOPLE HAVE COME OUT ON THEIR PROJECTED BUDGET NUMBERS AND SEE HAVE THAT.
LAST TWO YEARS, WE DON'T HAVE THIS CURRENT EACH LINE ITEM.
I HAD TWENTY-FIVE HUNDRED BUDGETED FOR THIS LINE ITEM.
WE ONLY SPENT 1500 AND THAT'S KIND OF CONSISTENT OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS.
THEN MAYBE WE NEED TO CUT THAT BACK A LITTLE BIT.
WELL, LET ME, AND LET ME JUST THROW SOMETHING IN HERE.
I THINK, BECAUSE I THINK IN, IN GOVERNMENT GENERALLY, THERE'S THIS IDEA THAT A BUDGET IS THIS, UH, LIKE SOLID UNMOVABLE THING.
AND THEN IF YOU OVERSPEND ONE OF YOUR LINE ITEMS THERE, YOU KNOW THAT SOMEBODY IS GOING TO COME KILL YOU, YOU KNOW? UH, AND THAT, SO WE NEED TO MAYBE DEVELOP THE IDEA WITH EVERYBODY THAT IT GO AHEAD AND BUDGET A LITTLE TIGHTER.
YOU KNOW, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL, THAT'S MY CONTINGENCY.
BUT ASK US FIRST BEFORE YOU GO OVER.
WELL, BUT I MEAN, IT CAN HAPPEN.
YEAH, NO, BUT DEFINITELY ASK US SO THAT WE CAN, CAN I EXPLAIN SOMETHING? I USED TO BE VERY PARANOID WHEN ALON ON HIM WENT OVER BUDGET BECAUSE MY LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, IT TELLS ME THAT SHOULDN'T ISSUE A CHECK ON THAT LINE UP.
BUT THE OUTSIDE AUDITOR SAID, YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE ALL THOSE BUDGET AMENDMENTS ANYMORE.
NOW YOU ONLY MAKE SURE THE DEPARTMENT HAS NOT GONE OVER BUDGET.
YOU CAN HAVE A LINE ITEM OVER BUDGET, BUT IF THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT HASN'T YOU'RE OKAY.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO WRITE YOU UP FOR THAT.
AND THIS IS A PLAN AND WHAT'S THE FIRST THING THAT HAPPENS WITH A PLAN IS ALWAYS WRONG.
AND I TALKED TO YOU ABOUT IT BEFORE, AND I KNOW THAT I'VE TALKED TO EVERYBODY THAT'S ABOUT IT, BUT, AND I KNOW KAREN KNOWS, BUT YEARS AGO WHEN I FIRST STARTED THAT FOR ONE OF MY IDEAS WAS THAT WE, THE LINE OF WHAT WE WERE OVER IN THE HR DEPARTMENT, THAT'S WHERE YOU GET YOUR PAY RAISES FROM.
SO I WANTED THEM TO SEND, ADVISE THE PEOPLE IN THEIR DEPARTMENTS, IF THAT COULD STREAMLINE THEIR BUDGET LINE ITEMS. AND THEY HAD THAT MUCH MONEY, THEN WE COULD TAKE THAT MONEY.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE COULD GET OUR PAY INCREASE IN HER PHONE.
SO I MEAN, KIND OF THE SAME THING, BUT WE COULD DO IT AS A WHOLE, NOT JUST AS A DEPARTMENT WITH WORDS, YOU COULD, YOU CAN DO THE SAME THING.
IF WE'RE GOING TO CUT THE BUDGETS SO THAT MAYBE EVERYBODY WOULDN'T BE MAD AT YOU BE MAD AT US.
IF WE'RE SAYING, WE'RE GOING TO USE THAT, THE INCREASE, YOUR PAY, NOT INCREASE SOMETHING ELSE.
WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS TO CONSIDER IS, YOU KNOW, I WASN'T HERE PRIOR TO THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, BUT YOUR FUND BALANCE WAS WAY TOO LOW.
AND SO YOU WERE GETTING DINGED ON A CREDIT RATING AND YOU WERE GETTING DINGED BY THE OUTSIDE AUDITORS.
AND SO, BUT OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, THERE'S BEEN A VERY GOOD JOB OF THE COURT AND THE COUNTY TO GET THAT FUND BALANCE UP TO WHAT'S CALLED AN ACCEPTABLE STANDARD.
SO AS OF NOW, KAREN WE'RE NORTH OF 10, 10, 1 10, 2 OR SO 10, EIGHT.
SO YOU'RE AT THAT, YOU'RE AT AN ACCEPTABLE LABOR.
YOU GOT AN, A, YOU GOTTA, YOU GOT AN, A MINUS CREDIT RATING ON YOUR BONDS.
AND SO YOU'RE AT THE PLACE YOU NEED TO BE.
NOW, YOU DON'T WANNA, YOU DON'T WANT TO GO BACKWARDS.
YOU DON'T WANT TO DIP INTO THAT 10, EIGHT, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE AS MUCH TO YOUR FUND BALANCE AS YOU HAD IN YEARS PAST TO GET YOU TO WHERE YOU NEEDED TO BE.
SO LAST YEAR, IF YOU RECALL, WE TOOK ONE FOR A FUND BALANCE AND WE PUT IT INTO THE OPERATING BUDGET TO COVER SOME, SOME THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO GET DONE.
WELL, IF YOU, IF YOU DON'T DO THAT AGAIN, THIS YEAR WHERE YOU GOT ONE, FOUR OFF THE TABLE, RIGHT? BECAUSE THAT WASN'T A SUSTAINABLE NUMBER.
SO SOMETHING TO CONSIDER IN THAT, IN THAT PAYING FOR THE TOWER, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THAT WOULD BE.
THAT WOULD BE MONEY THAT WOULD GO INTO FUND BALANCE, OR YOU CAN PAY FOR THIS NOW, OR YOU CAN COMMIT IT IF YOU WILL COMMITTED FIND BALANCE, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET IT DONE IN THE NEXT WEEK.
WE HAVE OUR FUND BALANCE, RIGHT.
IT'S TAKEN OUR FUTURE FUND BALANCE PAN.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY IDEA? HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE? IF WE SAID YES, BUILD A TOWER.
HOW LONG BEFORE IT'S GOING TO GET BUILT? I THINK THE SHERIFF SAID IT WOULD PROBABLY TAKE AT LEAST SIX MONTHS AGO AND ALL THE KIDS AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
SO THERE'S NO WAY YOU'RE GOING TO, YOU'RE GOING TO GET AN INVOICE FOR IT.
SO YOU'D HAVE TO COMMIT TO COMMIT THAT MONEY.
W W IT'LL BE IN COMMITTED FUND BALANCE TO COVER, RIGHT.
BECAUSE HE CAN'T, I HAVE TO HAVE, HE HAS TO RECEIVE
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THE PRODUCT OR THE SERVICE BY NINE 30 AND WE CAN'T DO IT.IF HE WOULD'VE SAID SOMETHING SIX MONTHS AGO WOULD HAVE BEEN OKAY, WE COULD HAVE DONE IT AND JUST TOOK IT OUT OF THIS YEAR'S COMMITTED FUND BALANCE.
I HAVEN'T TOUCHED THAT COMMITTED BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T NEEDED IT.
WE'RE AT 98% COLLECTION AND ONLY 70% EXPENDITURE RIGHT NOW.
BUT I MEAN, WE STILL GOT TWO AND A HALF MONTHS AGO.
GOT NEARLY THREE MONTHS DOWN THE SPIN.
I, I COULDN'T, I DON'T THINK WE COULD SAY EXACTLY WHAT FUND BALANCE IS GOING TO BE TODAY, BUT WE CAN GET A PRETTY GOOD ESTIMATE.
BUT IF YOU TAKE 2 MILLION OF IT, I CAN TELL YOU IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT LESS.
IF YOU COMMIT TO HAVE IT, THEN YOU WANT TO GOT TWO LEFT TO WORK WITH YOU'RE ALREADY A LITTLE BIT UPSIDE DOWN.
SO YOU JUST GOTTA, YOU JUST GOTTA WORK IT IN THERE ON HOW YOU, HOW WANT TO USE THOSE DOLLARS.
SO, UH, ALSO SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS, I MEAN, THAT'S A PRETTY BIG POP.
2 MILLION IS, HEY, HAVE WE EXPLORED OTHER OPTIONS? IN OTHER WORDS, INSTEAD OF US BUILDING A TOWER, IS, IS THERE ANYTHING UP THERE THAT WE COULD JUST LEASE SPACE ON TO PUT OUR REPEATER UP THERE? I DON'T, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW UP THERE, UH, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, NO, HE'S ACTUALLY SEARCHED THESE AREAS.
HE'S EVEN TALKED TO ME ABOUT IT AND I'VE REACHED OUT TO SEVERAL PEOPLE OVER WATER TOWER OR ANYTHING.
AND THERE'S, THERE'S REALLY NOT THERE'S WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY GOOD WATER TOWERS.
FORNEY HAS A WATER TOWER IN DOWNTOWN FORNEY, BUT IT'S NOT QUITE FAR NORTH IS HE REALLY WANTS IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, CAUSE HE'S REALLY AFTER THE NORTH LOCATION TO GET INTO THE ROCK, ALL COMPLETELY GETTING INTO THE LOWER END OF TRAVIS RANCH AND ALL THAT, SO THAT ALL THE REPEATERS ARE WORKING GOOD.
UM, AND I DON'T REALLY KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ON THE 40 WATER TOWER THAT I KNOW THAT ANYWAY, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS ROOM OR IF THEY NEED MOLELLE SOMEBODY ON THAT.
I'M NO RADIO EXPERT, BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU DO.
I USED TO HAVE A FEDERAL RADIO THAT, THAT I COULD TALK FROM GREENVILLE TO FORT WORTH ON.
AND YOU KNOW, WHAT'S FUNNY IS THAT THE HAND HALES, CAUSE MY HAND HAND WORKS EVERYWHERE OVER THERE THAT I FOUND I'VE NEVER BEEN, IT'S NOT THE HANDHELDS THAT GIVE THEM THE TROUBLE AS THE CAR RADIO.
UM, I'M NOT A TOWER EXPERT BY ANY MEANS, BUT HERE'S WHAT I DO KNOW ABOUT TOWERS IS I DO KNOW THAT TOWERS, YOU CAN SELL SPACE ON A TOWER TO OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.
I DO KNOW THAT PRIVATE INVESTORS BUILD TOWERS AND CELL SPACE TO OREGON, TO ORGANIZATIONS.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT APPLIES OR IF THAT APPLIES, BUT DOES THAT THINGS I DO KNOW YEAH.
NO, IT CERTAINLY WAS FOR RADIOS TO THE GERRY.
SOME OF THAT IT IS WHAT DO WE SAY IT? YEAH.
I MEAN, IF WE'RE GONNA, IF WE'RE GONNA FIND THE MONEY TO BUILD INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, THEN W WE OUGHT TO TAKE A LOOK AND SEE IF WE CAN'T TURN AROUND AND TURN IT INTO A REVENUE GENERATOR.
IF, CAUSE IF WE NEED TOWER SPACE AND THERE IS NONE, THEN SOONER OR LATER, SOMEBODY ELSE IS GOING TO NEED TOWER SPACE.
I WONDER, I WONDER IF THAT RPA MONEY COULD HELP PAY FOR THAT.
WELL, MAYBE, BUT THE OTHER THING, LET ME BRING UP THE OTHER THING I FORGOT ABOUT THAT HE DID BRING UP THE FACT THAT, AND I KNOW DALLAS HAS BEEN HAVING TROUBLE, THE SAME THING.
YOU GET TOO MANY PEOPLE ON THE TOWER AND IT INTERFERES WITH EVERYTHING ELSE ON THE TOWER AND ESPECIALLY A CELL PHONE FOR SOME REASON, THE CELL PHONE AND THE RADIO ANTENNA IS NOT THE SAME FREQUENCIES, BUT IT, IT DOES SOMETHING TO THEM.
AND IF SHERIFF WAS HERE, HE COULD EXPLAIN THAT.
I CAN'T EXACTLY EXPLAIN THAT, BUT I KNOW THAT THAT WAS THE OTHER PROBLEM THAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE ANY MIGHT'VE TALKED TO FORNEY AND THAT MIGHT'VE BEEN THE REASON WAS THE SALES COMMUNICATIONS ON IT.
CAUSE THEY WERE HAVING TROUBLE AT ONE OF THEM THAT THEY WERE USING.
UH, SO I ADMIT THAT, I KNOW THAT SOMEBODY ELSE HAS TOLD ME THE SAME THING.
I'M NOT A TOWER EXPERT, BUT THAT'S A BIG POP TO BUILD WHEN MAYBE YOU COULD LEASE SPACE IF THERE WAS ANY AVAILABLE.
AND MY QUESTION IS, CAN WE GENERATE REVENUE OFF OF THE TOWER AT SAM? WELL, I MEAN, I WOULD THINK YOU COULD MOSQUITO INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT BUILT A BIG TOWER AND THAT THING'S COVERED UP IN ANTENNAS.
I KNOW IT'S ALWAYS THE ONE OR TOWER DOWN THERE.
THEY'RE ALL ARE THEY, THEY HAVE SO MANY OF THEM AND UH, SOMEWHERE I DON'T, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO OWNS THE ONES IN THE MORNING, MORNING, MAN.
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING NEW IN THEM AT THIS LISA.
UH, SO I MEAN, I GUESS WE'LL JUST HAVE TO SEE HOW THAT ALL FLUSHES ITSELF OUT, BUT AT LEAST FOR RIGHT NOW, WE'RE GOING TO, I GET, I THINK WE'RE ARE, WE KIND OF AGREED THAT WE'RE GOING TO HOLD THAT MONEY FOR A TOWER, GREG, AND THEN, AND INVESTIGATE WHATEVER OTHER POSSIBILITIES ARE.
AND KAREN SAYS THAT SHE THINKS SHE MIGHT COME UP WITH, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL REVENUE IN OUR FUNDS THAT WE'RE NOT BUDGETING PERCENTAGE.
THAT WAS JUST THE ONLY ONE, ONE INSTANCE.
UM, I'M IN ANOTHER SET OF REVENUES FOR GENERAL FUND AND, UH, YOUR PRETRIAL GENTLEMEN
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HAS REALLY DOUBLED WHAT HE SAID.WE ONLY BUDGETED 37 5 AND HE'S ALREADY AT 66,800.
SO THERE'S SOME ROOM THERE TO UP.
UM, HE HAS A NEW LINE ITEM OF COLLECTING A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE IN ARREARS, WE CAN PUT MAYBE 5,000 THERE.
UM, SUBDIVISION FEES HAVE MORE THAN DOUBLED.
UM, LET'S SEE, THERE WAS ONE OTHER, I WAS GOING TO TELL YOU ABOUT, UM, MAINTENANCE CONTRACT RENEWALS.
HE STILL HAS JUST A LITTLE BIT TO GO AND HE'S GOING TO MAKE BUDGET.
AND, UM, SANITATION, WE ALREADY BOUGHT BACK PAST WHAT WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO BRING IN AND SANITATION FEES.
SO THERE MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT OF INCREASE THERE.
CAN WE ASK THAT, UH, THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, WE'RE MEETING AGAIN TOMORROW? CAN WE, IS, UH, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD COME UP WITH A LIST OF WHAT YOU THINK THE CURRENT BUDGET IS AND WHAT YOU THINK WE COULD ACTUALLY, HOPEFULLY IT'LL BE ON THE PLUS SIDE.
COULD YOU DO IF YOU WERE SURE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE SCREENS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL ARE SEEING THE SAME SCREEN THAT I'M SEEING, BUT THIS, THIS IS OTHER REVENUES.
AND SO IF YOU LOOK IN HERE, YOU CAN SEE I'VE ALREADY BUMPED IT UP 94 OR FIVE YEAR OVER YEAR.
SO IF YOU JUST CLICK ON, ON THIS IS BASE AMOUNT, THE, A BUDGET, THE CURRENT BUDGET AMOUNT I KNOW BASIS, BUT THIS INCIDENT IS AN AMENDED BUDGET.
OR YOU CAN ROB ME MEAN IT'S PRETTY FAST TO ROLL DOWN THESE, RIGHT? YOU CAN JUST ROLL DOWN THEM BY CATEGORY AND YOU CAN JUST MAKE, I CAN JUST MAKE ADJUSTMENTS.
YOU CAN SEE THE, SO WHAT I'M ASKING IS THAT TOMORROW WE KNOW WHAT, THAT WE, WE SETTLE THAT NUMBER.
IF IT'S A PLUS, THAT'S GOOD THAT GETS US, OR, OR WORKS DOWN THAT 400 GRAND OR WHATEVER TO YOUR MOM, THE SANITATION FEES THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE BUDGETED TO.
IF WE'RE EXCEEDING 180 5, SAY IT'S 20 MORE.
I WOULD PUT IN 20 MORE RIGHT HERE BUMPS THAT UP $20,000.
SO WHEN I'LL DO THAT, IT'S PRETTY QUICK.
AND SO I PULLED, I DID DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
I GOT A COUPLE OF OTHERS, BUT ARE YOU SAYING YOU'VE ALREADY BUMPED SOME OF THOSE UP, I HAVE BUMPED SOME OF THOSE UP, NOT ALL OF THEM ALREADY IN THE SHORT NUMBER.
SO, SO TOMORROW WE WOULD HAVE, YOU'D HAVE THE MOST CURRENT, WE, WE WERE GOING TO ESTABLISH AN AMOUNT FOR, UH, NON TAX REVENUE.
BUT WHAT'S, WHAT'S COMING INCREASE.
IS THAT THERE'S AGAIN, GOING BACK TO MY LITTLE CHEAT NOTES, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S ONE PLACE, BACON POSITIONS IS ANOTHER, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT VACANT POSITIONS IF FIRST A WEEK IS IT, IS THERE SOME SENSE OF AGREEMENT THAT WE NEED TO, UH, WHAT SKEET WAS PROPOSING THAT WE NEED? IF WE HAVE A CONSISTENTLY UNFILLED POSITION THAT WE NEED TO NOT FUND THAT AND LET THAT HELP US WITH OUR SHORTFALL, LEAVE THE POSITION, BUT TAKE THE FUNDING OUT.
IF IT HASN'T, IT'S CONSISTENT BECAUSE IT MIGHT BE A POSITION THAT THEY ACTUALLY NEED, RIGHT? AND THEN THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO NECESSARILY FUND IT.
AND THIS MEANS THAT WE DON'T USE THE MONEY NOW UNTIL THE TIME COMES THAT YOU COME BACK TO US AND SAY, LOOK, I REALLY NEED THIS POSITION.
THAT SEEMED LIKE A GOOD PLAN FOR EVERYBODY.
BUT EVERYBODY NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT, EVEN THOUGH IT SHOWS UP ON YOUR CHART, THAT THERE'S NO MONEY TO GO HIRE ANYBODY.
YOU GOT TO COME IN HERE AND ASK TO FILL IT.
I HAVE A ZERO BY THAT ZERO, ZERO FUND DECIDE WHICH POSITIONS ARE, UH, THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THEM LINE BY LINE, I GUESS.
SO WE WANT TO LOOK BACK A COUPLE OF YEARS AND SEE WHICH ONES HAVE BEEN EMPTY.
SO WHAT I WAS FIXING TO ASK, I CAN WRITE A PROGRAM IN STW THAT WILL GIVE ME THREE TO FIVE YEARS OF HISTORY.
AND I COULD JUST RUN IT ON THE GENERAL FUND BY DEPARTMENT.
YOU SEE THAT DEPARTMENT'S ASKED FOR THIS MUCH AND THEY ONLY SPENT THIS MUCH.
I THINK A TWO-YEAR LOOKBACK IS PLENTY.
I DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO IT TO ONE THING, THREE THREES.
I, BUT THAT'S AT SOME POINT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GET BACK FIVE YEARS, IT'S LIKE, THIS WAS A WHOLE DIFFERENT COUNT.
I CAN'T DO THE SAME ON THE EXPENSES LINE ITEMS ON ALL THEIR EXPENSES ON THE DIFFERENT LINE ITEMS, ONLY EXPENSES.
WELL, THIS IS WHAT I WAS JUST SAYING.
IT'LL BE, IT'LL BE ALL THE, ALL OF IT WILL BE OFTEN 10 BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL ARE DISCUSSING.
WELL, WE WILL SPECIFICALLY BE ABLE TO SEE POSITIONS RIGHT NOW SEPARATELY.
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BRANDON, BRANDY HAS LAST YEAR'S.AND SO WE CAN COMPARE OUR LAST YEAR'S WORKBOOK TO THIS YEAR'S WORKBOOK.
AND WE CAN TELL YOU WHAT WE BUDGETED LAST YEAR FOR VACANT POSITIONS AND WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO BUDGET THIS YEAR FOR BACON.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, UH, PENCILS OVER BUDGETED AND PEOPLE.
CAUSE YEAH, CAUSE THE BIG THING IS GOING TO BE PEOPLE.
SO WE GOTTA HAVE A DIFFERENT NUMBER FOR PEOPLE.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THIS REPORT, IT'S BY POSITION.
SO IT TELLS YOU THE POSITION OF EACH DEPARTMENT.
IT TELLS YOU THE TITLE, BUT WE JUST HAVE ONE YEAR PROBABLY IF WE, WE HAVE THIS SAME SHEET FOR LAST YEAR, I BELIEVE, AND WE COULD SEE, I DIDN'T HEAR YOU, SIR, BUT WE HAVE THIS EXACT SAME SHEET FOR LAST YEAR THAT WE, THAT WE USE FOR THE BUDGET.
THIS ONE THAT YOU WERE HERE, UM, WE HAVE THE PAYROLL SPREADSHEET AND NOT WHAT I JUST CREATED.
NO, YOU HAVE, BUT YOU HAVE THE SAME BASE WHERE YOU GOT THIS FROM.
WOULD YOU EVER ENVISION THAT IS DONE DURING BUDGET WORKSHOP IS IN MY FILES.
SO, SO WE WOULD KNOW WHAT WE BUDGETED LAST YEAR FOR VACANT POSITIONS.
AND WE KNOW IT'S BEING PLANNED TO BE BUDGETED THIS YEAR FOR POSITIONS.
WE FUNDED ALL OF OUR VACANT POSITIONS.
AND YOU'RE STILL NEVER, WE'VE NEVER DONE WHAT SKATES, WHERE WE KEPT A POSITION UNTIL THE FUNDING.
BECAUSE IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO USE IT AND HE DIDN'T SHARE, BUT WE'VE NEVER DONE IT BEFORE.
AND IF IT COMES UP THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY FINALLY HIRE SOMEBODY AND YOU REALLY ACTUALLY NEED TO THEN COME TO COURT, TELL US WHY THEN WE'LL MOVE ON AND WE'LL GO TO THAT.
YOU DON'T NEED TO MAKE THAT UNDERSTOOD.
WE HAVE ENOUGH EITHER FUND ALL POSITIONS ANYWAY, BUT IF WE DON'T THEN YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YEAH.
I MEAN, AT LEAST WE HAVE THE MONEY.
WE DON'T HAVE WE'RE WE'RE I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IS, IS FUN.
PAY RAISES, FUN, PAY RAISES AND POSITIONS.
BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET TO TWO AND A HALF MILLION, BUT JERRY TO THE 2.4 MILLION SHORTFALL, WHICH INCLUDES THE 2 MILLION FOR THE TOWER.
SO 2.4 IS, IS, IS THAT OUR CURRENT LEVEL? WE'RE 2.4 SHORT AT OUR CURRENTLY YOU'RE A LITTLE BIT MORE, CAUSE I TOOK $200,000 OUT OF THAT ONE NINE.
SO WE'RE TWO SIX, BUT THAT INCLUDES THE TOWER.
BUT THAT COMPUTATION INCLUDES ALL OF THESE VACANT POSITIONS THAT NEVER GOT FILLED, CORRECT? YES.
IT'S IT'S CURRENT SUSTAINABLE PAYROLL.
SO WAS PAYROLL AS OF YESTERDAY, BRANDY UPDATES, UPDATES IS SHEET ON A PRETTY REGULAR BASIS.
AND SO IT'S THE LAST PAYROLL RUN.
WHY ARE WE SHORT THIS YEAR? BECAUSE YOU, BECAUSE YOU USED FUND BALANCE TO COVER YOUR BALANCE.
LAST YEAR, I HAVE ZERO FUND BALANCE IN OUR MATH.
WE HAVE 2 MILLION RENT GOING FUND BALANCE.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YOU HAVE MORE THAN THAT CURRENTLY.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT FUND BALANCE IS.
IT'S JUST THAT I HAVE IN MY MATH RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW, YOU HAVE TO APPROVE FUND BALANCE.
AND SO I'M A SEPARATE BY THAT AND UNDERSTAND THAT OUT THERE.
IF WE DO THIS ON THESE POSITIONS, BECAUSE WE COULD HAVE THE MONEY TO FUND THEM.
THERE'S JUST THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO FUND THEM UNTIL THEY NEED THEM JUST FOR I'VE.
I'VE NOT FLOATED ANY OF THAT MONEY FORWARD.
I'M ONLY TAKING MONEY THAT I ACTUALLY HAVE OUR HANDS ON, WHICH IS TAX REVENUE.
IN OTHER WORDS, CAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE A BIG ENOUGH FUN BOUNDLESS.
WE'VE GOT A LITTLE UPSIDE IN THAT NUMBER BECAUSE WE GOT A REFUND FROM CARERS FOR MONEY.
WE SPENT, WE SPENT THE MONEY, WE GOT REIMBURSED.
SO WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A CUSHION, MY POINT THAT I WAS MAKING EARLIER.
AND WE COULD USE THAT TO BALANCE THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, BUT IT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE.
RIGHT? WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT AGAIN NEXT YEAR.
I HOPE OR I DON'T THINK ANYWAY, YOU YOU'VE OWNED IT IN THE MAC WITH MATT.
NO, I THINK, I THINK FROM AT LEAST FROM, FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT I THINK NEEDS TO HAPPEN HERE IS, IS YOU GOT TO START WITH THE BIG TICKET ITEMS FIRST.
RIGHT? SO LANDING ON REVENUE, THAT'S THE BIG TICKET ITEM.
THAT'S THE FIRST, THAT'S THE TOP PART OF THE FUNNEL.
WE GET THE REVENUE WHERE WE EVERYONE'S COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
SO THE REVENUE WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA LOCK INTO THEN NEXT IS YOU HAVE PAYROLL ASK WHAT YOU SEE IN THE BUDGET RIGHT NOW IS CURRENT SUSTAINABLE PAYROLL AND ALL THE OTHER ASKS.
SO A PHONE, A CHAIR, A DESK, UH, A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE, THAT'S ALL CAPTURED IN, IN THE NUMBER.
NOW WE NEED TO GO THROUGH THOSE AT SOME POINT TO MAKE SURE YOU APPROVE THEM.
AND IT'S PRETTY EASY TO GO THROUGH THEM PRETTY QUICK AND FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT THEY ASKED FOR AND WHY SOME OF THOSE COSTS THAT THEY'RE BEING ASKED FOR ARE ASSOCIATED WITH NEEDING A NEW BODY.
YOU HAVE A NEW BODY, THEN YOU NEED A NEW COMPUTER AND YOU NEED A NEW OFFICE SUPPLY.
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SO IT JUST MAKES SENSE THAT IF WE HAVE A POSITION THAT IT'S NEVER BEEN FILLED IN THE LAST THREE YEARS, SO WE DECIDE TO NOT FUND THAT POSITION.WE'LL LEAVE THAT, WE'LL LEAVE THAT POSITION.
WHETHER WE NEED TO DIG A LITTLE DEEPER AND NOT FUND THE COMPUTER AND THE DESK AND THE THAT, AND THE, THIS AND THE CAR AND ALL THAT STUFF, RIGHT? YEAH, YEAH.
WHATEVER ASSOCIATED COSTS WITH THE, WITH THE COST OF AN EMPLOYEE THERE, THEY'RE IN THERE NOW.
AND THE TOTAL MAN WE DO, BUT WE'RE A SEPARATE THING FOR THE EMPLOYEES TOO.
WE WANT IT TO BE SEPARATE, BUT TOTALLY WE CAN BREAK THAT DOWN PRETTY EASILY.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE MATH ON ALL OF THAT.
SO YOU CAN SEE IF YOU'RE JUST DOING THIS SIMPLE MEAN THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF THAT IN THERE.
I MEAN, THERE'S SOME, THERE'S, THERE'S A MILLION DOLLARS PROBABLY WORTH OF ASK THAT ARE IN THEIR SOFTWARE IS EXPENSIVE.
LICENSE RENEWALS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAT ARE, THAT ARE BIGGER TICKET ITEMS THAN, THAN SMALLER TICKET ITEMS, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY ARE IN WHICH DEPARTMENT IT IS.
BUT THE SUM OF ALL THE PARTS, WHEN YOU GO THROUGH IT, THAT ADDS UP, YOU KNOW, OVER THAT TIME, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADDRESS PRETTY QUICKLY AS THESE ASK, BECAUSE THIS IS, THIS IS TWO POINT, UM, THIS IS JERRY'S ROUGH MATH.
THIS HASN'T BEEN GIVEN TO BRANDY TO PUT THE ACTUAL PROFICIENCY PAY AND LONGEVITY AND ALL THOSE OTHER, I DID A 39% BURDEN ACROSS THE BOARD BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE AVERAGE ON OUR PAYROLL.
SOME MAY BE 50, SOME MAY BE 12, BUT I PUT 39% BURDEN ON EVERYTHING.
AND WE'RE AT $2.4 MILLION OF THESE.
SOME ARE WANTING TO PAY SOMEBODY A LITTLE MORE OR CHANGE A POSITION TITLE AND ALL THAT.
I'VE SPELLED IT ALL OUT, BUT ALL OF THESE ARE GOING TO REQUIRE YOUR APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL.
WE CAN PUT THEM IN FOR ON TOP OF THE 2.4.
SO I THINK WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS WE HAVE TO FIRST, LIKE YOU SAID, DETERMINE WHAT OUR REVENUE IS.
AND THEN WE'VE GOT TO TRIM OUT THE RELATED COST FOR UNFILLED POSITIONS, TRIM THE FAT TRIM THAT WELL AND WHATEVER, WHICH TRIM COSTS OUT.
THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SEE HOW MUCH WE HAVE TO SPEND ON NEW AND INCREASES AND INCREASES.
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT PATH.
I THINK THAT'S A LOT OF WORK, BUT I CAN GET REVENUE DONE TODAY AND TOMORROW I'M PRETTY COMPETENT.
I CAN RUN THROUGH IT PRETTY QUICK.
IT'S NOT THAT IT'S JUST CAROLYN.
KAREN CAN GENERATE A YEAR TO DATE REVENUE REPORT AND I CAN JUST DO THE MATH AND IF IT'S UP OR DOWN, I'LL JUST ADJUST IT.
THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT THAT TIME-CONSUMING.
YOU GOT ANY OTHER RABBITS TO PULL OUT OF A HAT, KAREN? NO, THERE ARE SOME OTHER LINE ITEMS THAT COULD BE ANGRIEST.
HE LIKES TO ARGUE WITH ME ON IT.
SO, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL JUST BUTT HEADS OR WANTS TO GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP.
IF WE JUST CHALLENGE EACH OTHER, WE'LL PUT, I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
BUT THIS, I WOULD DO WANT TO PASS THIS AROUND.
I JUST ADDED TWO POSITIONS FROM YESTERDAY.
SO THIS IS THE MOST CURRENT THAT I, I JUST STILL DOWN AT THE BOTTOM, BUT IT, BUT IT'S STILL GONNA BE OKAY.
UM, I'LL NEED TO WORK THAT INTO THIS MATH.
SO JANINA, WE TALKED ABOUT THE 5%.
AND WE DO THIS EXERCISE GO 6%.
WHAT EXTRA REVENUE WOULD THAT GENERATE? 1% IS $420,000.
YOU'RE ABOUT ON, ON GENERAL FUND ON ROAD AND BRIDGE.
THIS WOULD CHANGE BASED UPON TODAY'S BASED UPON THE CURRENT AND HOW ARE YOU DEALING WITH THE 6% THAT MADE THEM BECAUSE OUR VALUES ARE GOING UP AND KNOW.
SO, I MEAN, YOU STILL REDUCE TAXES ON THIS YEAR, WHATEVER.
I MEAN, I THINK WE NEED TO DO THE EXERCISE AND GET IT AS LEAN AS WE CAN TO GET IT.
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO REWARDING OUR EMPLOYEES SALARY, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE TO GO UP A HALF A PERCENT OR WHATEVER TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN, TO TAKE CARE OF A FEAT.
YEAH, MY, YEAH, MY QUESTION IS HOW MUCH MORE DO WE NEED IN DOLLARS TO RUN THE COUNTY? SO, UM, WILL HAPPEN I BELIEVE NEXT WEEK.
UM, YOU SHOULD GET A CERTIFIED TAX ROW.
I WASN'T AT THE BUDGET WORKSHOPS.
I SAW SOME DATES MAY GOT ROLLED FORWARD A LITTLE BIT, BUT THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT HAS TO PROVIDE A CERTIFIED TAX ROAD TO THE TAX OFFICE.
THEN THE TAX OFFICE HAS TO COME HERE AND CERTIFIED WITH YOU WHEN THEY DO THAT, THEY'LL CERTIFY THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE AND THEY'LL CERTIFY THE VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE.
BUT I KEEP TELLING YOU THIS, JERRY, OVER AND OVER, BUT YOU KNOW, LISTENING.
BUT THE, UH, THE SEMESTER WE GOT PLENTY OF, UH, AND WE GOT TONS OF REVENUE.
I MEAN, WE COULD, YOU KNOW, WE GET INCREASED HOW MUCH
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WE'RE SPENDING TO RUN THE COUNTY PROBABLY 10%.BUT DO WE REALLY, IS THAT REALLY FAIR TO THE TAXPAYER? DO WE REALLY NEED THAT MUCH MORE MONEY? NO, I DON'T THINK SO, BUT IT ISN'T WHAT WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF OUR PEOPLE AND IT JUST, YOU KNOW, WE ADJUSTED AT THE END.
THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS OUR PEOPLE, OUR EMPLOYEES, FOR SURE.
AND ALSO OUR CONSTITUENTS THAT PUT US HERE TO DO THIS.
SO IT'S ALL ABOUT THESE EXPENSIVE REMAINING COFFIN COUNTY.
IT WILL BE OUR PEOPLE, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I MADE THEM BLESSED IS WHAT IT IS.
WE WANT TO LOWER THAT TAX RATE AS MUCH AS WE CAN, WE'LL COME OFF IT BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I SAID.
I KNOW I'M AGREEING, WAIT, I'M NOT ARGUING.
I'M RUNNING OPENGOV, BEING THE NEW, THE NEW PROGRAM.
I'M RUNNING IT PARALLEL WITH AN EXCEL SHEET THAT I PUT TOGETHER AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CAPTURE EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING BALANCES.
AND SO FAR IT'S, IT'S BALANCING OUT.
SO I DON'T SEE ANY RED FLAGS IN THE SYSTEM AT ALL.
SO WE HAD A CALL THIS MORNING.
WE HAD A COUPLE OF LINES THAT WE JUST NEEDED SOME TWEAKING ON, BUT WHAT YOU SEE IN OPENGOV AND ANOTHER WAY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU JUST, IF YOU JUST LOOK AT ANYTHING IN HERE, THIS IS A COVER PAGE.
AND SO IF YOU CLICK ON BUDGETS, ALL OF YOU SHOULD BE SEEING, YOU SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT I'M SEEING.
AND THIS IS, THIS IS JUST YOUR, THIS IS JUST YOUR OVERVIEW.
SO EVERYTHING HERE IS WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED.
BUT IF YOU CLICK ON ANY ONE OF THEM, YOU CAN SEE THE VARIANCE YEAR OVER YEAR, DESPITE CLICKING ON ANY DEPARTMENT AND ON THE MAIN.
SO HERE'S JUST ANOTHER PIECE TOO.
SO IF YOU JUST CLICK ON THIS PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT AND YOU CLICK ON EXPENSE, YOU'LL SEE THE VARIANCE RIGHT THERE.
SO ANY THEY'RE ALL EXACTLY THE SAME.
AND IF YOU OPEN THIS UP, YOU CAN SEE THE DOLLARS.
SO, YOU KNOW, THESE, THIS WAS AT 3 47, HE'S GONE DOWN.
THIS ONE IS ONE, THAT'LL HAVE TO BE ADJUSTED.
IF THOSE POSITIONS GET PUT IN THERE, THEN YOU'D GO BACK AND WE WOULD ADD THOSE POSITIONS, ET CETERA.
YOU CAN DO THIS WITH ANY OF THEM.
AND THEN IN, IN REPORTS, UH, RIGHT NOW REPORTS HAVE TO BE SHARED UNLESS YOU CREATE A REPORT.
UM, UNTIL WE GET TO A, TO A POINT WHERE WE NEED TO BE, I DON'T SEE ANY, ANY REASON TO SHARE A BUNCH OF REPORTS UNTIL WE GET TO THE ONE YOU WANTED.
YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M THINKING THERE MIGHT BE SOME CONFUSION, UH, IN THE DEPARTMENTS ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING ABOUT LEAVING THE POSITION AND NOT PUTTING FUNDING IN THERE BECAUSE THIS IS NEW.
SO I WONDER HOW WE CAN COMMUNICATE THAT TO PEOPLE.
JUST NO, I'M THINKING WE JUST HAVE TO TELL HER HER MONEY.
I DON'T KNOW HOW I ASKED YOU TO DO IT.
I MEAN, IF THEY'RE WATCHING, THEY KNOW HERE, IT'S NOT A WINNER.
NOBODY'S TRYING TO HAVE TO HAVE IT, THEN WE'LL JUST MOVE THE MONEY OVER THERE.
IT'S LIKE IN THE SAVINGS ACCOUNT AND THEN YOU GIVE ME, IF YOU NEED TO WRITE THE CHECK, THEN WE'LL MOVE ON AND SAY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE BEST WAY.
WELL, THE HABIT AFTER WE KNOW THE NATIONAL FUND, WE WON'T PROBABLY, BUT I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT YOU WANT TO RAISE OR YOU WANT MORE HELP OR DO YOU WANT THEN, I MEAN, AT SOME POINT YOU GOT TO DECIDE YOURSELF.
IF YOU'RE A DEPARTMENT HEAD OR A YEAR IN THAT DEPARTMENT, YOU GOT TO DECIDE WHERE YOU'RE MAKING NOMICS.
AND THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS.
IF YOU WANT TO KEEP CARRYING A LOT OF MONEY INTO SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T HAVE.
UM, WELL IT'S JUST BECAUSE IT WILL BE A NEW CONCEPT.
OH, SO FOR CLARITY OF CAPTURING THAT MATH AND CAPTURING THAT MATH INTO OPENGOV, HERE'S WHAT WOULD WE WOULD NEED THE MARCHING ORDER TO DO? SO BRANDY WOULD HAVE TO GO IN TO ZERO OUT ALL THOSE DOLLARS IN OUR WORKFLOW AND THEN UPLOAD A NEW WORKFLOW TO OPENGOV.
AND IT'LL GIVE US A NEW PAYROLL NUMBER.
WE WILL TAKE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO NUMBERS AND WE'LL HOLD IT OUT TO THE SIDE AND WE CAN PUT IT BACK INTO CONTINGENCY IF I WANT TO SEE THAT NUMBER WITHOUT IT BEING A CONTINGENCY.
SO, YOU KNOW, SO YOU KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE LOOKS LIKE, IS THAT DOABLE BRANDING.
IT'S, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST LIKE, WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT IS IF YOU GO OVER YOUR BUTT, IT'S, IT'S OKAY.
IT'S THE SAME THING WE POSITIONED.
THERE'S NO MONEY THERE, BUT IT'S OKAY.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO HIRE THIS PERSON, YOU JUST HAVE TO BRING IT TO US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND FUND THAT.
AND I MEAN, BUT IF SOMEBODY HAS BEEN DOING IT WITHOUT A POSITION FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, THEY SHOULDN'T STRUGGLE THAT HARD.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A POSITION THAT THEY LOST YESTERDAY OR SOMEBODY RETIRED YESTERDAY AND WHAT COMES BACK.
THAT'S NOT THE ONE THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE EMPTY ALONE, WHETHER OBVIOUS.
SO WE, WE WOULD KNOW THE DIFFERENCE TRAINED, VACANT AS OF SIX MONTHS OR VACANT AS OF 16 YEARS.
WE WOULD KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'VE ALWAYS HAD A VACANCY FOR TWO YEARS
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IN THAT BANK, THEN I'D FEEL PRETTY SAFE ABOUT USING THEIR MONEY.THE OTHER WHILE I KNOW IN MY BUDGET, THE SAME THING, I TRY TO KEEP THAT POWER WHITES, THE CLASS FOR PARSON SALARY IN THERE FOR THAT GUY THAT WALKS IN THAT CAN RUN EVERYTHING.
SO I PREPARED TO HIRE ONE OF THE DIFFERENT THINGS.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A CONTINGENCY DEAL FIND, BUT IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
CAUSE I'M OLDER FOR THIS, THAT, THAT GOT TO WALK IN UNEXPECTEDLY.
THE DIFFERENCE IS WE'RE HOLDING THEIR CONTINGENCY.
NOT EVERYBODY WON'T BE ABLE TO HIRE PEOPLE AND NOT EVERYBODY.
AND I HATE TO PICK ON ONE DEPARTMENT, BUT WE ALL KNOW WE NEED TO DEPART FROM THIS CAMPAIGN BIGGEST.
WELL, I'VE ALSO TO YOUR OTHER TOGETHER POINT ON THE OTHER EXPENSIVE.
I DON'T HAVE IT BY LINE ITEM, BUT I HAVE IT BY DEPARTMENT.
I CAN TELL YOU WHICH DEPARTMENT AND WHERE THEY HAVE AVERAGED ON THEIR SPEND FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS.
BUT WE GOT TO GET THAT DOWN TO THE PEOPLE.
THAT'S GOTTA BE A SEPARATE, SEPARATE THING.
SOME MAY BE A LITTLE HIGHER, SO MAYBE A LITTLE LOWER DEPENDING ON THEIR SENIORITY OR THEIR PROFICIENCY PAYS OR OTHER THINGS.
BUT THIS IS IF THIS IS, IF THIS IS A, IT SHOULDN'T BE IN LITTLE ELM ON THE LOWER SIDE BECAUSE I'LL BE NEW.
THERE WERE VERY FEW OF THESE WERE THE ONES THAT GOT STEPPED PAY.
NO, WHAT I WAS SAYING IS IF THEY'RE HIRING IN A NEW PERSON, THEY WON'T BE LONG.
WELL, WELL WE'RE TO BE ON THE CHEAPER SIDE, WE'RE ALREADY EVEN DEEPER IN THE HOLE.
THEN, THEN WE WERE SORTA TALKING ABOUT, BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO LIVE WITH, WITH THIS BENCHMARK OF 5% BASED ON CURRENT FUND 10 ONLY PAYROLL, 5% GROWTH IS NOT 2.4 MILLION.
SO IF WE, IF WE NEED 2.4 WE'RE, WE DEFINITELY HAVE TO SUCK MONEY OUT OF THESE VACANT POSITIONS.
JUST TO BE, EVEN BECAUSE IF, I MEAN, JUST TO EVEN TRY TO EVEN, UH, MODERATELY MEET OUR 5% GOAL, 1.8 IS 5%.
WE'RE AT 2.4 WITH NO NEW POSITION.
LET ME EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ON PAYROLL TOO.
SO PAYROLL LAST YEAR WE PRORATED THE RAISE AT 2% AND WE DID THAT IN JANUARY.
AND THEN WE CAME BACK IN JUNE AND DID ANOTHER 1%.
SO FOR THE, FOR THAT FISCAL YEAR, YOU WERE PAYING A PRORATED PERCENT OF, OF, OF, OF, BUT THIS YEAR THAT'S 3%.
AND SO YOU HAD TO GROW YOUR ENTIRE PAYROLL 3% FOR THIS YEAR.
THAT'S YOUR LAUNCHING PAD, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU TECHNICALLY, YOU GAVE EVERYBODY A 3% RAISE LAST YEAR, TECHNICALLY WHILE YOU DIDN'T GIVE IT TO THEM FOR THE WHOLE YEAR, BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU MOVED THEIR BASE TO.
SO YOU'VE GOT TO LAUNCH OFF OF THAT.
THAT'S WHY YOUR PAYROLL WENT UP SO HIGH.
AND THAT'S WHAT YOU GOT TO SUSTAIN AND THAT'S JUST SUSTAINED.
AND THAT'S WHAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE BEAUTY ABOUT THIS SYSTEM IS IT ALLOWS BRANDY TO GO IN AND SHE CAN GIVE YOU PAYROLL AS IT, THE LAST PAYROLL RUN AND SHE'S, YOU KNOW, AND UPDATING IT.
SO WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT PAYROLL COSTS AS OF, AS OF THE LAST PAYROLL CYCLE.
BUT MY POINT IS YOUR 600,000 OVER A MINIMUM OF 600,000 OVER THE 5% BENCHMARK TO JUST SUSTAIN.
AND, AND YOU GOT 2.4 ON TOP OF THAT.
THAT'S THE SAME MATH I'M COMING UP WITH, WHICH, WHICH IS THE 3%.
YEAH, WE CAN, I THINK ALL THE THINGS YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT ARE GOING TO RESULT IN NET NET POSITIVE.
YOU'RE GOING TO, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT QUANTIFIED NUMBER IS, BUT PROBABLY HALF OF THAT, I MEAN, THAT'S HIGH LEVEL.
THEN YOU GOT, THEN YOU, YOU DIG INTO THE OTHER CATEGORIES OF, YEAH.
I MEAN, BUT LET'S THINK ABOUT THIS.
WELL, HE'S GOING TO RUN DRY, BE PREPARED FOR THE HOWLING.
WHEN WE SAY WHAT'S THIS SIX OR SEVEN DEPUTIES OR 11 THEY'RE GONE, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DISTRICT ATTORNEYS, BUT WE'RE REALLY NOT CHANGING ANYTHING BECAUSE THAT IN ANY, AND ALL OF THOSE CASES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THESE ARE GOING TO BE POSITIONS THAT SOMEBODY GOT INTO THE BUDGET.
I'M SURE WITH GOOD INTENTIONS, BUT IT TURNED OUT, I GUESS IT TURNED OUT THEY DIDN'T NEED THEM OR THEY JUST DIDN'T FILL UP FOR SOME REASON.
BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO AGREE THAT THEY DIDN'T MEET THEM.
BUT I MEAN, IT'S DEFACTO, IF YOU HAVE A POSITION THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN VACANT FOR TWO YEARS, I THINK IT'S PRETTY HARD TO ARGUE THAT YOU NEED THAT POSITION.
I MEAN, I BELIEVE ME, I'M, I'M JUST, I'M JUST SAYING BE
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PREPARED BECAUSE YEAH, YOU MAY NEED IT IN THE FUTURE.SO YOU, SOME OF THEM POSITIONS WILL GET FILLED BEFORE THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR.
UH, YOU KNOW, I JUST HAVE TO HOPE THAT EVERYBODY WOULD BE DOING THE RIGHT THING.
IF THEY'RE WATCHING THIS VIDEO, THEY'RE OUT THERE TO RECRUIT THEM.
I THINK PEOPLE REALLY, I MEAN, IT'S, I MEAN, KINDA WHAT IT IS AND, AND, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE IF THE TURNOVER RATE IN SOME DEPARTMENTS IS HIGHER THAN OTHERS, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT THAT POSITION, IT IS A POSITION THAT IT JUST KEEPS MOVING AROUND, YOU KNOW? AND I'M NOT PICKING ON THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, EVERYBODY, IF YOU'VE GOT 15 OR 20 PATROL OFFICERS AND HE ALWAYS HAS THREE EMPTY PATROL OFFICERS, IT'S NOT THE SAME IDENTICAL POSITION, BUT IT'S A POSITION THAT SAYS PATROL OFFICERS.
SO, I MEAN, IT COULD BE A CLERK.
IT COULD BE BECAUSE YOU GOT 20 CLERKS IN YOUR OFFICE OR FIVE OR WHATEVER IT IS.
AND YOU'RE ALWAYS DOWN ONE, THEN YOU'RE ALWAYS SHORTER POSITION.
IT'S NOT THAT NOBODY'S TRYING TO TAKE GAME.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE LIKE I SAID, WE LEAVE THE, THE POSITION IS THERE, DO YOU LEAVE IT THERE? AND IT JUST SHOWS THAT IF YOU CAN FILL UP UNTIL YOU NEED IT, JUST BRING IT.
AND WE MUST WHAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOES EVERY YEAR, EVERY CONGRESSMAN THEY AUTHORIZE, YOU POSITIONED, OR WE ADDED A 5,000 NEW BORDER PATROL AGENTS, BUT THEY DIDN'T FUND IT.
SO THEY HAVE A PRESS RELEASE THAT THEY ADDED 5,000 NEW BORDER PATROL POSITION, BUT YOU DON'T GET A SINGLE BODY BECAUSE THERE'S NO MONEY.
IF I COULD BACK, I'LL SAY THIS.
AND SO EVERYONE CAN HEAR IT TOO.
THAT, THAT WHAT HAPPENS ON THESE POSITIONS IS YOU DON'T HIRE EVERYBODY.
YOU MAY, YOU HAVE A POSITION THAT'S OPEN AND FUNDED.
YOU HAVE A FULL SALARY FUNDED FOR ENTIRE YEAR.
THAT HAPPENS PRETTY MUCH FREQUENTLY.
BUT YOU'VE ALREADY GRASPED FIVE MONTHS OF SALARY.
YOU DIDN'T REALLY NEED FIVE VACANCIES.
YOU COULD HIRE ALL FIVE OF THEM AND FILL THEM UP IN JANUARY BECAUSE YOU'VE SAVED SO MUCH MONEY.
YOU KNOW, PAY HIM FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR.
SO THE OTHER THING THAT HAPPENED QUEST, TO FILL THAT POSITION A HALF OF THE SALARY, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT HIRING TO TWO, TWO YEARS AGO.
THIS COURT ASKS EVERYONE TO GO BACK AND SCRUB THEIR BUDGETS AND TRY TO GIVE US 5% BACK.
IF YOU REMEMBER THAT ASK, WE PICKED UP, WE PICKED UP OVER, WE PICKED UP OVER A MILLION DOLLARS OF EFFICIENCIES WHENEVER KIND OF DOING THE SAME THING HERE.
WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP WHEN WE NEED TO DO IT'S A NUTS AND BOLTS SHARE.
I THINK THE, OUR NUMBER CRUNCHERS HAVE GOT THEIR ASSIGNMENT.
AND UH, WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD ASK, I WOULD ASK THE COURT, IF YOU COULD JUST TAKE SOME TIME LOOKING OVER THIS LIST, BECAUSE THIS IS A PRETTY LONG LIST AND WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO GO.
I'VE GOT A YES, NO COLUMN HERE.
BUT I THINK THAT'S STEP THREE AND IT IS WE'RE ON STEP ONE.
SO WE NEED THESE NUMBERS FROM Y'ALL AND THEN THAT MIGHT, THAT MIGHT HELP US WITH THIS.
AND TOMORROW, BY THE TIME WE CAN RECONVENE HERE AT ONE O'CLOCK TOMORROW, I'LL HAVE AN UPDATED REVENUE NUMBER AND WE'LL STRIP OUT AND WE'LL, WE HAVE TIME TO DO THAT.
IT'S NOT THAT THE STRIPPING OUT THE VACANT POSITION ISN'T ME.
BRANDY HAS TO HELP ME WITH THAT WHEN I DON'T KNOW HER, HER WORKLOAD.
SO STRIPPING OUT THE VACANT POSITIONS WOULD BE BRANDY WOULD UP.
THEN SHE WOULD, WE COULD, WE WOULD RE UP NET NUMBER INTO HERE.
WE CAN RELOAD IT AND WE GET A NEW PAYROLL UPLOAD AND WE WOULD KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER LOOKS LIKE.
IS IT GOING TO, DO YOU WANT THE VACANT POSITION THAT HAPPENED RECENTLY? WHAT I WOULD, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS POSITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN VACANT VACANT FOR, I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO ASK FOR TOO MUCH, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE HOW MANY A POSITION HAS BEEN VACANT FOR ONE YEAR, TWO YEARS OR THREE YEARS.
AND NOT JUST THAT LINE ITEM, IF IT'S THE SAME POSITION IT IS, AND IT'S FIVE OF THEM OR 10 OF THEM OR FOUR OF THEM.
THEN THAT MEANS THAT THERE WAS A POSITION OPEN, BUT ALL THOSE YEARS WE CAN DEFINITELY GET THAT DATA.
UM, BUT WITH HAVING THOSE THREE OPTIONS, I WOULDN'T KNOW.
DON'T, DON'T UPLOAD ANYTHING INTO OPENGOV.
WE'LL JUST DO IT ON A SPREADSHEET BECAUSE WE'LL NEED YOUR, YOUR THUMB UP OR DOWN THEN WE'LL UPLOAD IT.
WE'RE NOT, I MEAN, IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE MICROSCOPICALLY PRECISE.
I MEAN, WE'RE JUST, JUST GENERAL NUMBERS.
SO I MEAN, IT KIND OF HELPS YOU IF THE AUDITOR IS GOING TO
SO WE WOULD JUST GO BACK REFLECTIVE A COUPLE OF TIMES HOW MUCH THAT MEANT IT MIGHT NOT EVEN BE THAT MUCH PRIOR PROPOSALS AND BUDGET REVISIONS AND ALL OF THAT.
SO WE CAN REVISIT THOSE AND PUT THAT DATA TOGETHER.
JUST DO WHAT YOU CAN TO GIVE US THE INFORMATION WE NEED TO MAKE DECISIONS.
WELL, JUST, I MEAN, JUST FROM THIS ONE YEAR SHEET, I MEAN, THERE THERE'S A MILLION DOLLARS IN SHARE VACANCIES.
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POSITIONS.I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THEY'VE BEEN VACANT, BUT THEY'RE CURRENTLY, CURRENTLY CURRENTLY ON THIS SHEET, THERE'S ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS.
SO JUST IN ONE DEPARTMENT, WELL, HEY, ALWAYS STARTED BACK ME AND THE $2 MILLION.
I MEAN, THAT'S JUST WHAT IT IS.
I MEAN, AS TURNOVER, THERE'S JUST NOT MUCH YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT.
I'M SURE HE'D LOVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
I'M SURE HE'S NOT A BIG FOLLOW.
I'D LIKE THE CITY OF DALLAS WOULD LOVE BEEF.
I'M A POLICE OFFICER ALL THE TIME.
NOBODY THAT THIS DOESN'T WORK.
IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, I'D STILL LIKE TO KEEP TO OUR CALENDAR, WHICH WAS NEXT TUESDAY, PUT A PROPOSED BUDGET AND VOTE ON IT AND FOLLOW IT.
AND THEN YOU STILL HAVE TIME JUST TO BE CLEAR, THAT'S JUST DRAFT IT.
THERE'S ANOTHER 2 MILLION ON THIS, JUST THIS ONE YEAR SHEET.
SO THERE'S ALMOST JUST ON THIS SHEET.
THERE'S ALMOST $3 MILLION OF VACANT POSITIONS.
SO THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA, RIGHT? YEAH.
UM, NOT TOO, SOME OF US HAVE NOT ME, BUT WE HAVE 20 YELLOWS.
I NEED TO GO TO GO TO THEIR OFFICE.
THEY NEED TO GO TO THEIR OFFICERS AND WARM THOSE CALCULATORS UP AND METAL ALL THE WAY BETWEEN THE SLIDE RULE.
KAREN, ARE YOU STILL USING THE SLIDE RULE? ARE YOU USING THE RIGHT? WELL, THE BEAUTY ABOUT THIS SYSTEM IS IT'S LIVE.
AND AS SOON AS I CAN, I KNOW YOU GET A NOTICE THAT YOU SPEND, BUT HOW FAR DOES THAT LITTLE INSTANT THING THAT YOU PUNCH HAVE TO GO COMPARED TO THAT 20 FEET DOWN IN HER OFFICE? PROBABLY PROBABLY TO INDIA AND BACK.
UH, SO ARE Y'ALL READY TO ADJOURN AND THEN COME BACK AT ONE O'CLOCK TOMORROW.
OH, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO ANYTHING ELSE IN THE WEEDS THAT THAT'S WHERE HERE WE CAN ADDRESS? UM, NO, I MEAN, YOU'LL, YOU'LL SEE, WE'LL NEED TO DO A SIMILAR EXERCISE TO ROAD AND BRIDGE.
IT'S A LITTLE UPSIDE DOWN AS WELL.
SO YOU'LL NEED TO DO A SIMILAR TYPE OF EXERCISE ON REVENUE AND EXPENSES.
SO THAT CONVERSATION ON THAT FUND HAS TO, I GOTTA, I GOTTA BALANCE THAT ONE TOO.
SO WHEN YOU START WITH THE BIG NUMBER, RIGHT? YEAH.
YOU MIGHT'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS WHEN I HAD TO STEP OUT, BUT FROM THE, FROM THE CAD, WHAT'S A PROJECTION THAT WE HAVE NOW, JUDGE, DO YOU HAVE THAT FROM THE CAD FOR NEW PROPERTY? FOR NEW IT'S LIKE A MILLION BUCKS.
AND THAT'S EXEMPT FROM THE CAP, RIGHT? YEAH.
AND EVEN, EVEN FOR US 1301, I BELIEVE THEY'RE ABOUT BILLION IS TOTAL, TOTAL VALUE.
SO IT WENT DOWN FROM THE FIRST ONE I GOT, I EXPECTED WITH GLOBAL.
THEY'VE HAD A LOT OF LAW AND A LOT OF HEARINGS.
SO THAT NUMBERS IT'S FLOATING.
I WOULD EXPECT IT PROBABLY GO BACK UP A LITTLE.
SO WHAT'S YOUR, WHAT'S YOUR BALLPARK RIGHT NOW? THAT W WITH REGARD TO REDUCING THE TAX RATE RIGHT NOW, 6 CENTS BALLPARK.
I MEANT I DON'T WANT TO BE IT.
THAT'S NOT AN OFFICIAL NUMBER.
I UNDERSTAND WHY I NEED TO BE IN THERE.
I MEAN, THE, THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT GOING UP SO MUCH, WE GOT AN OFFSET OF THAT.
AND PEOPLE, I THINK MOST PEOPLE STARTING TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THE CHEAPEST PART OF THIS DEAL.
I MEAN, THEY WERE THE LOWEST PART.
I DON'T THINK MOST PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT I'VE BEEN PREACHING.
I'VE BEEN PREACHING IT, BUT I STILL DON'T THINK THEY GET IT.
I TRY TO MAKE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT.
I THINK WHAT THE NOTE, WHAT THE, WHAT THE, WHAT THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE IS.
I WANT TO SAY WE'RE AT 50 CENTS NOW.
THERE ARE ABOUT, I THINK WE'RE AT 50.4, RIGHT? I THINK VOTER APPROVAL, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN IS 46.
I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE ANY, YEAH.
WE, THE LOWER RATE ANYWAY, BUT THAT'S NOT EVEN A RELEVANT CONVERSATION.
I'M NEVER GOING TO BREAK HIM TALKING ABOUT THAT STUFF.
UM, SO ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY THROUGH IT, TALKING THAT ME LIKE THAT I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING.
SECOND MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS SECOND, FROM WHO WAS IT ALL OVER? UH, COMMISSIONED CAGE.
ARE THERE ANY KNUCKLEHEADS OR POST? NO JOB.