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GOOD FOR[1. To Discuss the Fiscal Year 2021-2022 Budget.]
THIS SPECIAL WORKSHOP MEETING OF THE CONFERENCE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURTS CALLED ORDER.IT'S 1:00 PM AND TODAY'S JULY 22ND.
WE'RE IN THE ANNEX AT KAUFMAN.
UM, SO, UH, WHILE WE'RE GETTING OUR TECHNOLOGY SPOOLED UP, I JUST WANT TO REMIND Y'ALL SOMETHING ABOUT A COUPLE OF THINGS ABOUT THE CALENDAR.
ONE THING IS THAT TUESDAY WE HAVE TO SEND OUT LETTERS TO ELECTED OFFICIALS REGARDING THEIR SALARIES.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT AS WELL TALK ABOUT RIGHT NOW, BUT WE'RE WAITING TO GET, WELL, JERRY'S GOT THAT UP RIGHT NOW, BUT IS THAT AS GOOD A PLACE TO START AS ANY? SURE.
UM, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS WHAT ARE WE GOING TO KNOW TODAY THAT WE DON'T KNOW TODAY? UH, I'M GONNA WHEREVER THING YET TODAY, SOMEBODY GAVE ME A BIG PACKET.
WELL, WE DIDN'T GIVE HIM MUCH TIME ANIME ON THIS PAPER.
WE DIDN'T GIVE HIM MUCH TIME TO, UH, TO GET ALL THAT DONE.
CAN YOU TAKE ONE OF THESE AND PASS IT OUT? OKAY.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ME PLEASE, SIR.
WE, UH, WE DID YOU, UH, THE SPREADSHEET THAT WE ALWAYS DO SO YOU CAN SEE IT BY DEPARTMENT AND BY FUND.
I'M GOING TO SAY I'M JUST GONNA, SO THIS OUT THERE FOR DISCUSSION, UM, I THINK WE GOT, AS FAR AS WE'VE, WE'VE GOT TO GET THE BUDGET THING MOVING, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO HAVE A, A, AT LEAST A DRAFT BUDGET SUBMITTED ON THE 27TH.
UH, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PERFECT, BUT I DON'T THINK WE CAN.
I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO SUBMIT A DRAFT BUDGET.
DO WE KNOW? UM, SO, SO THE FIRST THING, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF REQUESTS FOR NEW POSITIONS AND RAISES WHICH OBVIOUSLY, I MEAN, I THINK WE FIGURED OUT THE OTHER DAY, THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET THERE.
UM, SO MY SUGGESTION REGARDING ELECTED OFFICIALS, WAGES IS EITHER SUBMIT THE LETTERS THAT THEY, THAT WAGES ARE AS THEY ARE.
THEY WON'T, THEY WON'T BE ANY CHANGE IN THE WAGES, OR IF THE COURT WANTS TO ADD SOME SORT OF A PERCENTAGE AND THEN WE CAN DO THAT.
BUT SO COMMISSIONER HUNT, DO YOU WANT TO START THAT CONVERT? DO YOU HAVE ANY INPUT AND WE'LL JUST GO DOWN, I GUESS, UH, UH, WE, UH, WE, WE HAVE AMBITIONS OF GIVING A PERCENTAGE RACE, AT LEAST A PERCENTAGE RACE ACROSS THE BOARD FOR EMPLOYEES OR NOT.
WELL, I DID BEFORE I SAW THE TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLAR NUMBER.
NO, BUT YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, THE OTHER DAY, I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 5%, BUT IF WE, WE CAN STILL PLAY WITH THAT FOR THE SAKE OF THE EMPLOYEES, BUT, WELL, I DON'T INTERRUPT YOU, BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I THOUGHT WE PARDON ME.
I THOUGHT WE HAD AGREED ON THE CONCEPT THAT WE WOULD SEEK THE MID RANGE FROM THE EVERGREEN STUDY.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET ALL THE WAY TO A MID RANGE IN, IN ONE YEAR, MAYBE NOT THREE YEARS, BUT THE, THE GOAL WAS TO COVER THE LARGEST GAPS TO TRY TO TRY TO CLOSE THOSE GAPS A LITTLE MORE RAPIDLY.
WE DID THAT FOR THOSE 21 PEOPLE.
UH, YOUR REST OF YOUR MID RANGE IS NOT THAT FAR OFF FROM THE, FROM THE RECOMMENDED.
LET ME, LET ME GO BACK TO THE RECOMMENDED APPROACH FROM EVERGREEN, BECAUSE EVERGREEN ALSO REALIZED THAT YOU CAN'T JUST GO FROM, FROM HERE TO BRIGHT, YOU KNOW, OVERNIGHT.
AND SO IT WAS A RECOMMENDED, STEPPED APPROACH.
AND SO WE WENT, WE PUT THAT FIRST STAB AT THAT RECOMMENDED STEP APPROACH AND THAT COVERED THE LARGEST MAJORITY OF IT.
THERE ARE STILL A FEW THAT ARE, AS YOU CLOSE, AS THERE'S STILL MORE TO GO TO GET TO THAT MID RANGE WAS HOW FAR, HOW MUCH FURTHER DO YOU WANT THAT SECOND STEP TO BE? THAT WOULD BE THE QUESTION OF THE COURT, THAT THING.
AND ONE KID SAYS, I'M A WE'VE, WE'VE KIND OF SET THE GOAL.
AND IF WE MISS A STEP OR WE MISS DOING SOMETHING EVERY TIME WE HAVE A CHANCE, EVEN IF IT'S IN SMALL INCREMENTS, WE'LL NEVER GET THERE BECAUSE THIS IS CONSTANTLY RUNNING AWAY FROM US WHILE WE'RE TRYING TO CHASE IT.
YOU KNOW, SO I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE KIND OF BEHIND THE CURVE HERE, SO, BUT I THINK, I KNOW WE HAVE SAID WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE EMPLOYEES AND THE RAISES, IT MAY BE A HALF PERCENT OR WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DO TO ADJUST IT, TO TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE.
CAN WE FOCUS ON THAT BEING SAID AND ELECTIONS, THAT'S JUST PRETTY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT OFF, BUT IF WE ARE PLANNING ON DOING THAT TO GIVE A PERCENTAGE, THEN WE COULD GIVE A PERCENTAGE TO THE SAME PERCENTAGE TO THE ELECTED OFFICIALS.
YOU KNOW, TIME AND TIME AGAIN, I'VE BEEN HERE ABOUT FOUR AND A HALF YEARS.
AND EVERY TIME WE HAVE EITHER PASSED ON GIVING OURSELVES A RAISE, I THINK WE'VE DONE IT ONCE.
ONE TIME SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, A PERCENTAGE RAISE LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, YOU KNOW? SO, I MEAN, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO A PERCENTAGE FOR EVERYBODY ELSE, THEN WE WHAT'S WRONG WITH GIVING A PERCENTAGE LAST TOO.
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SO TIME YOU CAN SOME DIRECTION YOU MIGHT.AND WE WENT, RANDY WAS GOOD ENOUGH TO ADD A 1% INCREASE OF ONE AND A HALF PERCENT IN GREECE AND A 2% INCREASE AND SHOW YOU THE DIFFERENCE, WHICH YOU'D HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AND SEE FROM THE LACK OF GENERAL FUND IS 36, 6 50 1%.
SO HE WAS TALKING TO LIKE $161,000.
DIFFERENCE TAUGHT ME HOW TO READ IT.
WE DID THE SAME THING FOR ALL THE ROAD AND BRIDGE, AND THEN ALL THE OTHER FUNDS TOO.
SO THAT CAN GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THE PERCENTAGE INCREASE WOULD COST.
THAT'S A NET CHANGE OF HOW MUCH? 1%.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ABOUT 161,000 OR SO.
AND THEN SAY IT AGAIN, A HUNDRED AND SIXTY FIVE, SIXTY FOUR, YOU ADD UP ALL THREE CATEGORIES.
I'M DOING IT JUST IN MY HEAD MATH, BUT THAT'S JUST HOW GENERAL FUND EMPLOYS.
RIGHT? THAT'S ALL ACROSS THE BOARD, ALL THAT'S, EVERYTHING, ALL OTHER FUND EMPLOYEES AT THE BOTTOM.
YOU, IF YOU DID ALL THREE OF THOSE TOGETHER, WE'VE GOT ONE 60 PLUS PLUS ANOTHER 80 PLUS ANOTHER 200.
I DON'T HAVE THAT SPREADSHEET.
ONE OF THE THINGS TO REMIND EVERYONE TOO IS IF YOU REMEMBER FROM THE EVERGREEN STUDY, WE, WE RESERVED $500,000 TO MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS, RIGHT.
WE DIDN'T SPEND BRANDY TRUED THAT UP LAST WEEK.
AND SO WE'VE GOT 300 AND SOME CHANGE LEFT IN THAT, IN THAT 500,000 THAT I'VE MOVED OVER INTO, INTO COMMITTED FUND BALANCE.
AND, UM, AND WHEN WE TALKED LAST, THAT'S WHAT I ASKED THE COURT.
CAN I HAVE THE REMAINING BALANCE TO PUT INTO NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET TO HELP WITH SPACE, TO HAVE THE EVERGREEN STUDY.
SO THAT'S THAT MONEY IS SET OUT THERE TO HELP THOSE GAPS THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT, COMMISSIONER CATES, THAT THERE'S STILL A FEW OUT THERE.
SOME ARE ON THIS SHEET THAT I PRESENTED TO YOU.
SOME OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS PUT THEM ON THAT SHEET.
SO WE HAVE THAT $300,000 THAT I HAVE CHISELED OUT AND COMMITTED FUND BALANCE TO HELP WITH THE GAPS THAT'S OUTSIDE OF COST OF LIVING INCREASES.
THAT'S THAT'S MONEY THAT WE SET ASIDE FOR THAT PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
IT IS STILL SETTING THERE IN TODAY'S MONEY.
WE JUST NEED APPROVAL TO ROLL IT FORWARD, AND I CAN USE THOSE DOLLARS THEN TO COVER THAT PIECE OF THE CONVERSATION.
SO, UH, YEAH, IT SEEMED LIKE A GOOD IDEA.
SO YOUR, YOUR SUGGESTION IS THAT WE DO A GENERAL WHATEVER THE PERCENTAGE IS, WE DO A GENERAL RANGE OF INCLUDING EVERYBODY.
I JUST THINK THAT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING.
SKEET, YOU GOT ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT? NO.
WHAT IF WE HAVE THAT MONEY? I MEAN, IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME.
WELL, I LIKE THE IDEA OF MIKE BROUGHT UP THERE TOO, BUT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO HAVE RAISED AS MUCH AS THE NEXT GUY, BUT, UM, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO TAKE CARE OF OUR EMPLOYEES.
CAUSE THAT, I MEAN, IF WE DON'T, WE'RE GOING TO START LOSING PEOPLE AND UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A STUDY TO WORK WITH.
AND IF WE CAN DO THAT AND THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AS WELL THEN FINE.
BUT IF WE ABSOLUTELY CAN'T, I THINK THEY NEED TO COME FIRST.
SO, SO YOU'RE, SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT REAL GOOD ON THE IDEA OF A FLAT PERCENTAGE INCREASE FOR EVERYBODY IF WE CAN IT YEAH.
BUT IF IT LOOKS LIKE WE CAN'T, BUT WE COULD DO IT WITHOUT THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND MAKE IT WORK BETTER FOR THE EMPLOYEES THEN I'M FOR THAT.
SO I WANT TO TRY TO NARROW THIS FOCUS BACK BECAUSE I THOUGHT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS ELECTED OFFICIALS IS THAT THAT'S THE TOPIC OF THE TOPIC OF THE MOMENT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO SEND, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE CAUSE OF THE LEAD, RIGHT.
WE HAVE A STATUTORY OBLIGATION TO SEND THE LETTERS UNDERSTAND.
SO MY FIRST QUESTION IS HOW MANY OF THE ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE, UM, ARE DRAMATICALLY OFF THE MID POINT OF THE EVERGREEN STUDY.
OFF THE MID POINT OF THE EVERGREEN RECOMMENDED STEP ZERO, ZERO OFF THE RECOMMENDED MIDPOINT OF A STUDY, EVERYTHING'S GOING TO HAVE A LOW AND A MID AND A HIGH, I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK COMMISSIONER IT'S IT'S.
I'M NOT SURE IF ANYONE WAS ALL THE WAY TO THE MID, BUT THEY WERE PRETTY CLOSE.
YOU KNOW? AND SO WHEN I DID THAT FIRST BLUSH, THEY WERE WITHIN 500, IF NOT HIGHER THAN THE RECOMMENDED FIRST, FIRST STEP.
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SO THERE IS NO RECOMMENDATION BEYOND THE FIRST STEP.IT'S UP TO THE DISCRETION OF THE COURT.
SO JUST TO MAKE SURE TO CLARIFY IS BY YOUR RECOLLECTION, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF YOU.
ALL OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS WERE WITHIN $500 OR SO OF THE RECOMMENDED FIRST STEP ADJUSTMENT OF OUR EVERGREEN STUDY.
IS THAT CORRECT? 500 WITHIN THE MID RANGE, THEN THE MID RANGE FROM MY RECOLLECTION, YES, YES, YES.
500 OF THE MID RANGE OR 500 OF THE FIRST STEP.
WELL, THERE WAS, THERE WAS ONLY, THERE WAS ONLY TWO RECOMMENDATIONS.
A RECOMMENDATION WAS A THREE TIERED APPROACH, MEANING THAT YOU DID YOUR, YOUR YEARS OF SERVICE OVER, OVER THREE SLOTS OR TO YOUR APPROACH.
WE CHOSE THE TWO YEAR APPROACH BASED UPON THAT AND WHERE THEY SAID, THIS IS THE RECOMMENDED MID RANGE OR RECOMMENDED TO GET THEM CLOSER TO THE MID RANGE.
THERE WERE ZERO OF THE ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT, THAT APPLIED TO, THEY WERE ALREADY THERE, INCLUDING THE COMMISSIONERS, CLEANING EVERYONE.
SO THAT BEING THE CASE, MY SUGGESTION IS THAT, WELL, LET ME, LET ME TAKE THAT BACK.
LET ME, LET ME LOOK AT THAT STUDY AGAIN, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME INTO PLAY WAS I COULDN'T CHANGE ANY ELECTED OFFICIALS SALARIES OF A ONE AND TWO, BECAUSE THEY WERE ALREADY POSTED.
SO LET ME PAUSE, LET ME, LET ME GET THE DATA TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE TIME.
SO I'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT DATA TO MAKE SURE.
WELL, ASSUMING THAT THAT'S CORRECT.
MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE LETTERS GO OUT WITH NO CHANGE IN SALARY FOR AN ELECTED OFFICIAL IN THIS COUNTY.
HOWEVER, BECAUSE THERE IS A, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE, THE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS BETWEEN, UH, A COLA, A COST OF LIVING INCREASE, UH, ACROSS THE BOARD, IF YOU WILL COST A LIVING INCREASE FOR COUNTY EMPLOYEES AND A SALARY ADJUSTMENT, THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT.
THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT, UH, PROGRAMMATIC ACTIONS, YOU KNOW, THEY MIGHT HAVE THE SAME IMPACT.
BUT, UH, SO MY SUGGESTION IS THAT THE LETTERS THAT NEED TO GO OUT AND NEED TO GO OUT WITH NO SALARY CHANGE THIS YEAR FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS, AND THEN BASED ON HOW OUR BUDGET COMPUTATIONS, I AGREE COMPLETELY WITH COMMISSIONER BARKER, THAT FIRST ALL RANK AND FILE COUNTY EMPLOYEES, B B SERVICE TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN WITH A COLA OF SOME PERCENTAGE.
AND IF WITHIN THE BUDGET, THAT COLA COULD BE EXTENDED THEN TO THAT, THAT STATED SALARY LEVEL, WHICH IS UNCHANGED FOR EVERY ELECTED OFFICIALS.
SO IS THAT CLEAR AS MUD TO BE ON IT? THE ONLY CONCERN WITH THAT IS, IS THAT YOU CAN'T CHANGE IT.
ONCE YOU SEND A LETTER OUT, THE LETTER GOES OUT, IT CAN'T BE CHANGED.
NO, IT'S LOCKED IN, BUT I THINK THE, OUR RANGE IS FINE FOR ELECTIVE PESOS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF THEM ASK AND THEY DON'T HAVE MANY OF THEM.
OTHER THAN THAT, JP FOUR IS ALL I'M AWARE OF ONLY THE FOUR DAY PS ASKED FOR A RIDE.
UH, I I'D HAVE TO RECOMMEND THEM BECAUSE YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.
THE LETTER HAS TO GO OUT AND THEN THAT'S LOCKED IN STONE UNLESS THEY APPEAL LAST NAME.
JUST SO WE'RE NOT VOTING, BUT, UH, JUST FOR CLARITY, JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS SHEET INCLUDES THE ELECTED OFFICIALS.
WE'RE NOT VOTING, BUT W WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IN THE DRAFT BUDGET.
I MEAN, I, I GUESS I'M, I WILL AGREE WITH THE IDEA OF NOT OF JUST PARTICULARLY IN LIGHT OF WHAT WE FOUND OUT IN THE EVERGREEN STUDY THAT WE JUST LEAVE ELECTED OFFICIALS WHERE THEY ARE.
UH, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO S WE GOT TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF REQUESTS.
AND SO THIS IS AT LEAST ONE STEP TOWARDS THAT.
WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO GO WITH THAT? YEAH.
I MEAN, I JUST, HONESTLY, IT WAS IF WE COULD, YEAH.
BUT THE EMPLOYEES COME FIRST, SO, OKAY.
I KNEW WHAT THE SALARY WAS WHEN I TOOK IT.
AND THE LAST ONE WE GOT, I DIDN'T TAKE.
SO I'M TELLING YOU I'M ABOUT MY PEOPLE.
I KNEW WHAT THE JOB WAS WHEN I TOOK IT.
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M MORE WORRIED ABOUT MY PEOPLE THAN ME.
SO THAT'S WHERE I, THAT'S A, THAT'S A, LIKE A RECORD, ISN'T IT? THAT WE ALL KNOW, AND WHEREVER ALL AGREED ON SOMETHING.
UM, UH, SO, UH, DO WE WANT TO, OR CONSTABLE HERE, HE WANTS TO TALK TO US AND I KNOW HE CAN BE OUT, YOU KNOW, SERVING PAPERS OR SOMETHING.
UH, DO YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM HIM WHEN YOU COME UP HERE AND AFTER, RIGHT.
MAYBE YOU SERVE HIM PAPERS ON YOU.
I HADN'T THOUGHT COME ON, BRING THEM ON.
UH, DO YOU WANT TO, YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANT TO TELL US? NOPE.
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THOUGHT YOU WERE HERE TO SPEAK TO US.YOU WANT TO ASK HIM FOR ANYTHING OUTRAGEOUS? OH YEAH, I AGREE.
I'M GOING TO, UH, I'M GOING TO PUNT IT OVER TO YOU AND KAREN, OR I GUESS YOU START, KAREN Y'ALL CAN THROW IN ON.
I CAN, I CAN KICK US OFF ANYWAYS.
SO THE EXERCISE THAT I WENT THROUGH, ALL THE, WHAT WE CALLED, WHAT I CALL OTHER REVENUES.
SO REVENUE OUTSIDE OF, OUT OF TEXAS TAXES, UM, REALLY DIDN'T GENERATE ANY, ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGE.
SO I'D ALREADY DONE SOME OF THOSE.
UH, SO REVENUE IS STILL SETTING FOR GENERAL FUND, RIGHT ABOUT WHERE IT WAS JUST NORTH OF 55 MILLION.
OUR DELTA RIGHT NOW IS 2.5 AND SOME CHANGE OF THAT 2.5 AND CHANGE TWO.
ONE IS THE REQUEST TO TOWER FROM THE SHERIFF.
SO YOU'RE STILL SITTING AT ABOUT THAT $400,000 DELTA IN REVENUE VERSUS EXPENSES IN THE GENERAL FUND.
SO, AND THAT'S WITHOUT A COLA THAT'S, WITHOUT ANY THAT'S, WITHOUT A COLA OR ANY, OR A NEW POSITION, ANY NEW POSITIONS, RIGHT.
AS ACTUALLY, AS I SCRUBBED SOME, I KIND OF WENT BACKWARDS A LITTLE BIT IN A COUPLE OF THEM.
SO, BUT IT'S STILL RIGHT ABOUT RIGHT ABOUT, LET'S JUST CALL IT A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS BECAUSE THAT'S EASIER MATH, BUT THAT'S ABOUT WHERE OUR DELTA SETS TODAY.
SO WE NEED TO GENERATE ANOTHER HALF, A MILLION DOLLARS IN REVENUE.
YOU HAVE A REMINDER OF ONE OF THE OPTIONS.
SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE ANS WE WILL HAVE UNSPENT FUND BALANCE THIS YEAR BECAUSE WE BUDGETED UNFIT.
WE BUDGETED COMMITTED FUND BALANCE LAST YEAR, AND WE HAVEN'T NEEDED AT ALL.
SO THAT MONEY THAT YOU COMMITTED LAST YEAR IS AVAILABLE.
PLUS YOU'RE GENERATING MORE FUND BALANCE THIS YEAR.
SO YOU HAVE MONIES, THAT'LL BE IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET UNSPENT THAT YOU CAN ALLOCATE THE NEXT YEAR.
I DON'T KNOW THAT EXACT NUMBER.
I CAN BALLPARK IT FOR YOU, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT EXACT NUMBER, BUT YOU CAN, YOU CAN SAY A NUMBER AND KAREN CAN TELL YOU IF YOU HAVE IT OR NOT, YOU KNOW, SO WE CAN KIND OF GO THAT DIRECTION.
SO THAT WOULD EASILY, OR THAT COULD COVER AT LEAST YOUR $400,000 DELTA.
SO THAT WOULD COVER THAT BASED UPON WHAT I'M SEEING IN THIS.
SO YOU THINK THAT THAT WOULD COVER THE $400,000 DEFICIT? I THINK SO.
I STILL THINK THERE'S SOME REVENUE THAT CAN BE ADJUST TO.
SO, SO WE EASILY, I THINK WE, I THINK WE EASILY HAVE ENOUGH MONEY IN THAT, IN THAT FUND BALANCE TO ROW FORWARD, TO COVER ANY DELTA IN THE CURRENT MATH OF THE, OF THE BUDGET.
PLUS IF I'M DOING, IF I'M SEEING THIS MATH CORRECTLY, I'M JUST, THIS IS JUST THE JERRY'S ROUGH MATH.
A 1% RAISE IS ABOUT $400,000 BRANDY THERE ABOUT ACROSS THE BOARD.
OR, YOU KNOW, IT'S MORE LIKE 219 OH, TOTAL, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TOTAL ALL ROAD AND BRIDGE ALL ACROSS THE COUNTY.
SO, SO, SO YOU'D NEED TO, IF YOU GO TO 1%, YOU GOT TO PICK UP ANOTHER 400.
IF YOU DO ANOTHER PERCENT, YOU'VE GOT TO PICK UP ANOTHER 400.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF THAT FUND BALANCE YOU WANT TO COMMIT, BUT THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION, THE FIRST PLACE TO LOOK AND YOU START THERE WITH, WHAT DO YOU THINK? YEAH.
MAYBE THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO, BUT JUST TO TAKE MONEY OUT OF THIS YEAR'S BUDGET TO BE PAYING SHOWERS NEXT YEAR.
BUT YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THE SUSTAINABILITY AS IT GOES TO THE SUSTAINABILITY QUESTION.
CAUSE WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO NEXT YEAR? I MEAN, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH US DOING THAT.
I JUST, UH, UM, I'M TRYING TO LOOK OVER.
MAYBE I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT, WHAT IT INTERFERES WITH IS EVERYTHING THAT EVERYBODY WANTS NEW NEXT YEAR.
I MEAN, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SUSTAIN IT NEXT YEAR.
SO NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS THING THAT, I MEAN, WE CAN SUSTAIN IT, BUT AT WHAT COST, YEAH.
THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO TAKE THE MUNSTER, THE HEAT, IF WE CAN DO THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'LL BE THE ONE MOMENT AND THERE ARE ALL THE EXTRA THINGS ALONG WITH EVERYBODY ELSE.
I'M NOT BLAMING IT ALL ON HIM, BUT HE TAKES A BIG HIT.
ANYTHING HAD HAPPENED IN TEXAS.
UH, I GUESS I MISSED A STEP HERE.
WHAT DID, SO WHAT DID WE COME UP WITH ON UNFUNDED OR UN FIELD BUDGETED POSITIONS? YEAH, WE HAVEN'T GOT THERE YET.
THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY QUESTION.
SO IN ADDITION TO THE UNFUNDED BALANCE, I MEAN THE, THE, UH, UNEXPENDED BALANCES OPTION WE HAVE YET TO DISCUSS, WHERE WOULD WE BE BY DEFUNDING VACANCIES? RIGHT.
CAN YOU, AND I WOULD SAY TO SOME EXTENT, TAKING THE MONEY THAT WE'VE GOT IN THESE REQUESTS OR THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE FOR UNFILLED
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POSITIONS AND PUTTING AT LEAST SOME OF THAT IN CONTINGENCY.SO WE WOULD HAVE IT AVAILABLE IF WE NEEDED IT.
SO WHERE DO YOU THINK THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE? THAT'S THE BRANDY MATH, THAT'S A NEW MAN.
YOU LOOKING FOR IT? I THINK THERE'S LIKE ONE OR TWO THAT ARE LIKE, HAVE BEEN VACANT FOR QUITE SOME TIME, BUT MOST OF THEM IT'S JUST A REVOLVING DOOR.
UM, THE ONE THING I DO SEE IS HUMAN RESOURCES, THE DEPUTY CLERK POSITION.
UM, AND THEN I KNOW FOR AS FAR AS THE GENERAL FUND, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT, EVERYTHING ELSE IS THERE'S NO CONSISTENCY.
IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST A REVOLVING DOOR OF, AT THAT POINT IN TIME, WHO DO WE HAVE IN THERE? YOU KNOW? SO IT'S KIND OF BE A HEADACHE JUST TO PUT MONEY IN A FUND AS FAR.
WELL, WE WOULDN'T EVER TAKE IT BACK IF WE TOOK IT OUT.
NOW, ONCE IT GOT FILLED, IT JUST HAS TO BE REFUNDED.
BUT THE FACT IS WE STILL, IF YOU ADD ALL THAT TOGETHER, WE STILL HAVE, UH, WE STILL HAVE POSITIONS THAT WE'RE HOLDING MONEY.
WE YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT, WE'RE HOLDING MONEY OUT OF THE BUDGET AND THAT WE DON'T EVER SPEND THAT MONEY.
BUT SHE'S SAYING THAT MOST OF THESE POSITIONS ARE A REVOLVING DOOR, SO THEY'RE NOT THANKING THEM.
MAYBE ONE OR TWO MONTHS, TWO, YOU NEED TO KEEP IN MIND FOR ALMOST THE LAST 10 YEARS.
I'VE KEPT THIS BUDGET LINE ITEM BY LINE ITEM BY DEPARTMENT, BY DEPARTMENT, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.
SO YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THAT PATH.
THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY TO TALK TO LEGAL ABOUT IT.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
I'M SAYING, IF YOU HAVE A POSITION, YOU HAVE TO FUND IT.
YOU CANNOT PUT A ZERO THERE BECAUSE ALL THROUGH THE YEARS WE'VE DONE IT, BUT THE RIGHT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO IT BY LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.
WHAT IT TELLS YOU, YOU HAVE TO DO SO WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL HOW Y'ALL GOING TO DO THAT.
SO, UM, SO WHAT, ACCORDING TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, WHEN YOU HAVE, AND IT JUST BEAR WITH ME, LET ME SORT OF EXPLAIN IT.
WHEN YOU HAVE A POSITION, YOU HAVE TO FUND IT IN THE BUDGET.
AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE BUDGET IS OF COURSE, TO BE TRANSPARENT, WHICH IS WHAT EVERYONE'S TRYING TO DO.
AND I'M NOT ACCUSING OR SAYING, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO JUST WANT TO SORT OF EXPLAIN IT, BUT THE BUDGET HAS TO BE TRANSPARENT.
AND THE STATUTE SPECIFICALLY SAYS THAT YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO COMPARE LIKE A LINE ITEMS AND POSITIONS FROM YEAR TO YEAR FOR THE SAKE OF TRANSPARENCY.
SO YOU CAN'T PUT LIKE ZEROES IN, IN POSITIONS, AND THEN THINK YOU'RE GOING TO MAYBE TRANSFER OUT OF CONTINGENCY LATER, BUT YOU HAVE TO FUND THE POSITIONS OR ELSE YOU BASICALLY HAVE, YOU KNOW, A DEFUNDED OR A CUT POSITION.
AND THE REASON IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT KIND OF IN THE, THE WHOLE TOTALITY OF IT IS, IS THAT THAT WAY OUR BUDGET IS ACCURATE.
AND WHEN OUR BUDGET IS, IS AS ACCURATE AS WE CAN MAKE IT, THEN THAT'S HOW WE CALCULATE LIKE OUR PROPERTY TAX AND ALL THE OTHER CALCULATIONS THAT COME OUT OF THE BUDGET.
AND FOR AUDITING PURPOSE, I KNOW KAREN AND I'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS, BUT FOR AUDITING PURPOSES, YOU CAN'T HAVE LIKE A HUGE CONTINGENCY THAT YOU'RE PLANNING ON REALLY MOVING FOR A POSITION.
IF YOU, IF YOU DECIDE TO FUND IT LATER AND JUST HAVE A PLACEHOLDER.
SO IT'S JUST KIND OF, BUT DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH, OF COURSE, THAT GETS BACK TO THE ACTORS FOR OUR BUDGET IN, IN, YOU KNOW, A BUDGET IS NOT EVER INTENDED TO BE A PRECISION DOCUMENT, BUT OUR, OUR BUDGET HASN'T HAS NOT BEEN ACCURATE.
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE, WE END UP WITH ALL THIS MONEY COMMITTED TO DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE DON'T SPEND.
WE DO, WE, WE DO LINE ITEM TRANSFERS AND CHANGE IT.
SO I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE IT LIKE, IT'S NOT A LIVING DOCUMENT BECAUSE TO A CERTAIN EXTENT IT HAS TO BE, OR, OR WE COULD MEET THE NEEDS OF THE COUNTY.
BUT, UM, BUT WHAT THE STATUTE SPECIFICALLY IS LIKE THAT, JUST SO THE COUNTY DOESN'T GO IN AND HAVE A LOT OF ZEROS OR UNFUNDED, UM, POSITIONS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A BALANCE, ISN'T IT? THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW YESTERDAY.
I'LL JUST PIVOTED A LITTLE BIT OF THAT BECAUSE OVER THE YEARS WE'VE FUNDED LOTS AND LOTS OF POSITIONS AND PUT $1 IN IT FOR A PLACE HOPING TO MAKE THEM MAKE THE, MAKE THE HOPE.
AND, AND KERATIN IS ONE THAT SUGGESTED THAT SEVERAL YEARS AGO, THAT KIND OF STUFF, THE ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR AT ANY, ANYTHING WE DO.
SO WE COULD DO ALMOST THE SAME THING.
IT'S A, IT'S A, IT IS A LIVING DOCUMENT IN A SENSE.
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A LANA IS EIGHT LAND ADD.NOW THERE'S THIS BEAUTIFUL THAT, YOU KNOW, AND I'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT FOR SEVERAL YEARS BECAUSE I'LL GET ONE OPINION FROM ONE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND ANOTHER ONE WILL SAY SOMETHING ELSE.
THE LAST TIME THE LADY SAID THE SAME THING SAID, YES, A LINE ITEM IS A LINE ITEM.
SO IF ALL MY ROLE GROUP FALLS UNDER THAT SAME LINE ITEM NUMBER, THERE ARE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS THAT I'M PAYING OUT OF THAT LINE ITEM, BUT THEY'RE NOT THE ACTUAL LINE OF BY LINE ITEM IS THAT ONE SINGLE NUMBER.
SO THAT'S WHERE IT BECOMES THE LEGAL ASPECT THAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU CAN FUND THESE THINGS AND THEY'D BE ZERO.
YOU CAN TRANSFER BACK OUT OF A CONTINGENCY AND FLIP MONEY INTO THAT, MAN, BECAUSE THAT'S JUST THE WAY THIS IS TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
WELL, YOU KNOW, I CAN ONLY SAY FROM THE LEGAL STANDPOINT OF WHAT THE STATUTE SAYS AND, UM, AND WHAT WHAT'S BEEN THE PATTERN, I MEAN, THAT'S WHY IN THE STATUTE IS JUST REALLY SPECIFIC.
AND I'M LOOKING AT, UM, THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE ONE, ONE, ONE.ZERO, ZERO FOUR.
AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, YOU DON'T HAVE A PLACE HOLDER FOR SOMETHING THAT YOU MAY OR MAY NOT DO LIKE THE ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR.
I'M NOT TRYING TO BE LIKE RESTRICTED, BUT I'M JUST SAYING, IF YOU'RE BUDGETING FOR POSITIONS THAT IT'S LIKELY THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO FEEL, AND, AND YOU THAT THE MONEY SHOULD BE REFLECTED THERE JUST FOR TRANSPARENCY AND TO COMPLY WITH THE STATUTE.
AND WE ALL CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT.
UM, BUT I'M TRYING TO TELL YOU WHAT THE STATUTORY, UM, INTERPRETATION IS.
I COULD MAKE A SUGGESTION OR AT LEAST A POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITY IS YOU DON'T HAVE TO FUND THAT POSITION TO START ON TEN ONE.
YOU COULD HAVE THAT POSITION START ONE, ONE.
SO SOME OF THE VACANT POSITIONS, THEY DON'T ALL HAVE TO START OCTOBER 1ST.
AND SO YOU COULD STILL HAVE A POSITION THAT WAS FUNDED, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE CAPTURING THE ENTIRE YEAR SALARY.
AND YOU MAY NOT HIRE THAT PERSON UNTIL JANUARY.
IF THAT'S TRULY THE PATTERN AND TRULY THE CASE, THEN JUST BUDGET FROM JANUARY TO THE END OF THE YEAR.
AND YOU PICK UP THAT HALF A YEARS AND THAT'S AN ACCURATE REFLECTION.
THAT'S AN ACCURATE REFLECTION OF THE BUDGET.
SO I'M JUST SAYING THAT YOU JUST HAVE TO WATCH THAT THAT'S A FUN POSITION PERIOD, AND KNOWINGLY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE CONSTANT TURNOVER AND IT JUST DROPS MONEY RATHER THAN WORDS, BUT YOU'RE GAMBLING, GAMBLING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT MINDSET.
AND IF WE DO HAVE A CONTINUING THEME WHERE WE COULD AFFORD THEM, THAT'S FINE.
BUT WE COULD ALSO, IF WE HEADED THE OTHER WAY, YOU'RE ALWAYS JUST GETTING PERMISSION TO DO THAT.
SO WE'RE ALWAYS MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO THE WRONG DIRECTION.
THAT'S ALL WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO IN THE NEGATIVE, RIGHT? YEAH.
I'M NOT CRITICIZING OR TELLING YOU HOW TO DO THE BUDGET.
I'M JUST SAYING IT'S A BALANCE.
AND YOU JUST HAVE TO BE AWARE THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO VENTURE ZEROS OR A BUNCH OF MINIMAL AMOUNTS THAT ARE NOT REALLY ACCURATE IF YOU HIRE THOSE PEOPLE.
SO THERE ARE TWO, THERE ARE TWO POINTS I THINK THAT ARE GETTING LOST HERE IN THE DUST.
ONE IS BASED ON WHAT BRANDY TOLD US.
THESE ARE REVOLVING, YOU KNOW, IT'S THAT, THEY'RE NOT REALLY, UH, A HUGE, UH, BLOCK OF POSITIONS THAT GO CHRONICALLY UNFILLED.
BUT SECOND, IF, IF, IF THERE WERE A BLOCK OF POSITIONS THAT GO CHRONICALLY UNFILLED, THEN IN THE INTEREST OF TRANSPARENCY, THE NET EFFECT BEING THE SAME, WE COULD JUST ELIMINATE THOSE POSITIONS, NOT HAVE THEM IN THE BUDGET.
AND IF AN ELECTED OFFICIAL OR A DEPARTMENT HEAD NEEDED A POSITION, HE WOULD SIMPLY COME BACK BEFORE THE COURT.
AND WE WOULD, UH, REVIEW THAT TO, TO, TO RESTORE A POSITION THAT WE ELIMINATED.
CAN WE ADD A POSITION IN THE MIDDLE OF IT? WE CAN AMEND THE BUDGET.
IT NORMALLY SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE IT'S UNEXPECTED AND WE HAD PLANNED FOR, BUT RIGHT.
UM, I THOUGHT THAT WE HAD HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT ANOTHER POSITION THAT WE COULDN'T, WE COULDN'T CREATE.
BUT IT MIGHT BE MOOT IF IN FACT THESE ARE NOT TRUE BLOCKS OF CHRONIC VACANCIES.
THEY'RE JUST, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IF, AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN YOU'RE BASICALLY NEEDING TO SPLIT THE BABY AND FOLLOW THE ADMINISTRATORS' SUGGESTION, WHICH IS JUST FUNDED AT 50%, BECAUSE THAT'S LIKELY ALL IT'S EVER GOING TO COST THE COUNTY ANYWAY.
AND, AND JUDGE RICHARDS, I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF COMMENT TO THAT IS THAT, I MEAN, NORMALLY IF WE AMEND THE BUDGET, IT SHOULD
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BE SOMETHING THAT'S UNEXPECTED, UNPLANNED.UM, BECAUSE I THINK YOU'RE MY REFERRING TO SOME CHANGES.
WE, WHEN WE HIRED THE COMMUNICATION, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE WE NEEDED TO ADD A FIRE MARSHALL, OR WE NEEDED TO ADD A, UH, A DETECTIVE FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, THEN HE NEEDED, WE WOULD DO THAT.
INSTEAD OF THAT EMERGENCY, WE WOULD DECIDE THE EMERGENCY.
THAT'S WHAT THE DISCRETION OF THE COURT.
SO WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT THE, THE FACT THAT WE HAVE MONEY LEFT OVER FOR POSITIONS THAT ARE NOT FIELD EITHER ACCIDENTALLY OR WHATEVER CONSISTENTLY NOT FAILED? ARE WE GONNA, WE GONNA TRY TO, I DON'T THINK JERRY'S, IDEA'S A BAD IDEA TO JUST FUND A LOT OF THESE POSITIONS.
I'M SURE A LOT OF THESE POSITIONS DURING THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, UM, I'D LOVE TO COMMENT ON.
SO, SO, SO JUST, AND I KNOW YOU WERE PROBABLY OBSERVING YESTERDAY, BUT WE'RE LOOKING FOR
NOW, LET ME KIND OF TELL YOU, IF YOU REMEMBER Y'ALL KNOW I'LL WORK WITH Y'ALL WITH THE BUDGET.
I UNDERSTAND I WILL ALWAYS BE THE BIGGEST BUDGET, BUT THE END OF THE DAY, WE ALL REMEMBER WHEN WE ADDED SIX, I TOLD YOU I COULDN'T HIRE THEM SIX AND WE CUT THEM IN HALF AND WE FUNDED THEM WHEN WE NEEDED THEM.
AS I COULD DO THAT, I HAVE LOOKED THROUGH MY BUDGET SINCE THIS HAS COME UP AND I'VE HAD ALL OF THIS BATCH VOTE, I'VE HAD ALL OF PITCHING FULL AT ONE TIME.
THE ONLY THING I'VE GOT IS ABOUT FOUR SPOTS IN PATROL THAT HAS BEEN SOMEWHAT CONTENTEDLY OPEN THE WHOLE YEAR.
SO MY DEAL IS I'M ALL FOR, IF WE CAN, IF WE WON'T CUT THAT IN HALF, AND THEN WE ENTER IT, BUT LET ME TELL YOU WHAT WE'RE DOING.
THERE'S FOR THIS EVEN COME UP, I WAS WORKING WITH KAREN TO, TO, TO MAKE A PLAN BECAUSE THIS IS HOW WE'VE DONE IT.
WE HAVE FIGURED OUT THAT WE CAN'T HIRE MANY PEOPLE FROM OUT ON THE STREET, VERY FEW COME TO US.
SO WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS MOVE THE JAILERS, SEND THEM TO SCHOOL AND PUT THEM ON THE STREET.
THAT'S BEEN OUR BEST, BEST ASSET AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN THE COUNTY.
AND THE POINT, CAUSE WE'RE ATTAINING THEM, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING, Y'ALL HAVE DONE TO STEP PAYING OUT, WE'RE RETAINING OUR EMPLOYEES.
SO MY GOAL IS CAUSE WE'VE HURT THE JAIL.
WHEN WE'RE DOING THIS, ANYBODY YOU CAN TALK TO THEM.
WHEN I START HOLDING POSITIONS IN THE JAIL, SENDING THEM TO SCHOOL, I HURT THE JAIL.
SO WHILE WE WERE PLANNING TO DO IS MOVE, THESE PEOPLE WERE SENDING IT TO SCHOOL, INTO THAT SPOT, LOWER THE PAY EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE MAKING, BECAUSE NOT A DEPUTY.
WE CAN PUT THAT MONEY BY SEND THEM TO SCHOOL.
WHEN THEY COME BACK, THEY GET THEIR TICO LICENSE.
WE PUT THEM AT THE BASE BAY OF A DEBT.
THAT WAY I'VE GOT GOOD TRANSPARENCY WITH HOW WE'RE TRAINING OUR PEOPLE, HOW WE'RE KEEPING THEM, BUT ALSO KEEPING THE JAIL RUNNING EFFICIENT AND THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO WORK IN THE JAIL.
BUT ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE POSITIONS IS WHAT I'VE GOT ON THE PATROL SIDE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
UH, CAN I MAKE YOU WORK WITH, TRY TO MOVE SOME OF THESE PEOPLE OVER? YES.
UH, I THINK WE CAN DO THAT, BUT THAT'S THE ONLY WAY I CAN SEE THAT WE CAN GET THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE FULL UTILIZE, GREAT EMPLOYEES THAT WE ALREADY GOT HIRE AND MAKE THEM GREAT.
AND IT'S WORKING, I'VE GOT 27 ON THE STREET RIGHT NOW THAT COME FROM THE JAIL.
THAT'S THE WAY EVERYBODY USED TO DO IT.
AND THAT, I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT A LONG TIME AGO, THAT THAT ALWAYS WORK.
YOU KNOW, YOU WENT TO WORK FOR SHERIFF DECK OR A LONG TIME AGO, AND GUESS WHAT YOU DID WORK IN THE JAIL.
AND I'LL KIND OF TELL YOU HOW WE TALK ABOUT FUND BALANCE.
WHILE WE GIVE BACK IN THAT, I'LL KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE AT, WHERE YOU'LL HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING.
2018 ON THE FIVE 60 SIDE, WE GAVE 288,000 BACK ON 2019.
WE GAVE A LITTLE OVER 419, 20 20 DURING ALL THE COVID WHEN EVERYTHING PRETTY WELL SHUT DOWN, WE DIDN'T HARDLY DO NOTHING.
WHEN YOU WENT TO THE FIVE 60 SIDE IN 2018, WE HAD 80,000, 2019.
WE DID A HUNDRED AND SEVENTY EIGHT, TWENTY TWENTY.
THAT WAS COVID AND ALL THE STUFF WE HAD TO DO IN THE JAIL.
THEN, UM, 5 63, WE GAVE 67 AND 1846 AND 19 AND 36 AND 2020.
SO I THINK SOME COMP THAT WAS GIVEN MILLIONS.
WE'RE NOT GIVING MILLIONS BACK.
WE'RE JUST, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE BEING REALLY GOOD AND HOW WE SPEND OUR BUDGET.
AND IF WE DON'T NEED SOMETHING, I GIVE IT BACK.
YOU KNOW, I PLAN FOR THE WORST AND EXPECT THE BEST.
I DON'T THINK ALL THAT MONEY YESTERDAY, WE TOLD THEM ABOUT WAS YOURS.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO TO TALK ABOUT THE AMOUNT THAT WAS NOT LOOKING AT BRANDY, BUT I'M LOOKING AT RANDY, BUT THE I'M LOOKING AT HER LOOKING AT, BUT I MEAN, THEY SAID HE MIGHT'VE HEARD THAT NUMBER IN THERE.
BUT MY BIGGEST THING IS I'LL ALWAYS DO THAT.
I'VE DONE THAT SINCE OH NINE AS BEING THE CHIEF
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SHERIFF AND DOG OWNERS.THAT'S EVERYBODY ON THE SHEET.
SO WE'LL ALWAYS GET BACK AND YEAH, I DON'T THINK HE MAY HAVE PICKING ON YOU YESTERDAY.
WELL, I MEAN, BRIAN, THE SHEET WE GOT YESTERDAY SHOWS BETWEEN THE JAIL DEPUTIES AND EVEN DISPATCH THAT THERE'S 17 EXISTING VACANCIES.
THERE'S, THERE'S NOT, I CAN, I CAN PULL THE LIST NOW.
I MEAN, I'VE HAD A COUPLE OF LEAVE.
I HAD A DISPATCHER RETIRE, ONE QUIT, AND WHICH I KEEP THE LIST MYSELF.
UH, THERE ARE A FEW, UM, PAYROLL CHANGE FORMS THAT HAVE NOT REACHED OUR OFFICE THAT WE, THAT ARE TAKING UP SOME OF THOSE VACANCIES.
SO IT'S JUST A PAPERWORK PROCESS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I'VE GOT TWO IN DISPATCH.
ONE SERGEANT DISTRICT RETIRED, THE OTHER ONE LEFT.
NO, I I'LL JUST EXPLAIN IT TO YOU.
WHY THE TOPIC CAME UP BECAUSE THEY WERE, UM, THE INFORMATION IS GIVEN TO THE CORE OF 17 VACANCIES, NOT FOUR, FOUR IS A BIG DEAL.
WELL IT'S, I MEAN, THINGS HAPPEN IN THE WHOLE COUNTY.
Y'ALL KNOW THAT EMPLOYEES, THINGS ARE CHANGING ALL THE TIME AND THE TIME IT MAKES IT OVER HERE TO THEM, IT'S, IT'S A DELIGHT, BUT KNOW, LOOKING AT A SNAPSHOT AS OPPOSED TO SORT OF A RUNNING AVERAGE, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE GOT OFF TRACK.
SO, UH, I'M ALL FAR IN, IN TAKING, I CAN, I CAN TAKE THE FOUR SPOTS AND WE CUT IT IN HALF AND I'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE DO IT.
BUT THE OTHER THING THAT YOU GOT TO REALIZE THAT WE'VE DONE IT, IT HADN'T IMPACTED ME ON THE FIVE 60 SIDE IS BAD.
IS THE JAIL SIDE IS Y'ALL GOT TO REMEMBER, WE'VE GOT UNFUNDED COP TIME SITTING IN THE BACKGROUND.
AND WHEN HE LEAVES BACK HERE, OFFSETS IT TO A T AND THAT'S SOME OF THE STUFF THAT HELPS OFFSET SOME OF THIS STUFF THAT PEOPLE DON'T SEE BECAUSE WE, WE DO COMP TIME.
SO THE TAKEAWAY FROM THAT IS THAT THE SHERIFF THINKS THAT HE COULD, YOU KNOW, RESCHEDULE THE WAGES OR WHATEVER, SO THAT WE MIGHT HAVE SOME GAIN THERE A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT'S NOT REALLY LOOKING FOR AS FAR AS THE MAIL.
AND THE OTHER ASPECT OF IT, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT 150,000 IN PAINTING.
I MEAN, IF IT NEEDS A, HOLD OFF A YEAR FOR WE GETTING THE BUILDINGS, I FIND I'M TRYING TO DO IT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE LOOK GOOD OVER WITH THE REST OF THE BUILDINGS.
WE NEED TO OFFSET THAT FOR TILL THE NEXT NEXT YEAR YOU GOT THIS YEAR.
HUH? COULD WE DO THAT THIS YEAR? I DON'T KNOW.
CAUSE I'VE BEEN TRYING TO, BECAUSE THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
I MEAN, IF THERE'S EQUIPMENT THAT I CAN GO AHEAD AND BUY NOW OR SOMETHING THAT WE NEED, I BUY IT NOW.
SO I WAS ASKING FOR IT IN THE BUDGET, THAT'S JUST MANAGING A GOOD BUDGET IF THERE'S MONEY THERE.
AND WE THINK THING IS Y'ALL DO, I MEAN, EVERY YEAR WE TRY TO, WELL, I'M MOVING IT TO THE NEXT YEAR TO KEEP FROM SPENDING THAT MONEY.
IF WE WANT TO HAVE SPENDING THINGS WE HAVEN'T REALLY TALKED ABOUT.
WE TALKED ABOUT THAT WITH THE TOWER PROJECT OF COMMITTING THAT MONEY THIS YEAR, WHICH, AND IT IT'S GOING TO TAKE, AND I KNOW THE TIRE Y'ALL, Y'ALL BROUGHT THAT UP AND KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEAL ON THAT TIRE.
I THINK WE GOT MISUNDERSTANDING ONLY A TIRE ITSELF.
THE TIRE ITSELF IS ONLY ABOUT 306 70 6,000.
THAT'S IT? THE REST OF IT IS ENGINEERING.
ALL OF THE SOFTWARE AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOES WITH IT.
AND THE TWO CONSOLES THAT'S WHERE ALL THE MONEY IS.
I AIN'T, THAT'S WHERE THE BULK OF THE MONEY IS.
AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS A GOOD, ROUGH ESTIMATE.
IS IT GOING TO COME IN LOWER? I HOPE SO.
IS IT GONNA COME IN HIGHER? I DON'T.
THAT'S WHY I TOLD THEM, MAKE THEIR NUMBERS A LITTLE HARDER TO MAKE SURE WE COVERED IT WITH INFLATION AND STUFF AND THEY DIDN'T DO MUCH.
I SAID, DON'T GO, I'M TALKING ABOUT VERY LITTLE AND UH, THE TIRE OVER THERE, YOU KNOW, GOOD THING.
WE AIN'T GOT TO BUY A PROPERTY.
I'M WORKING WITH PHONY ICE STAYED.
DIDN'T GIVE US A SPOT OVER IT, BUT I'LL TELL YOU, WE GOT TO HAVE SOMETHING TO LEARN FOR.
WE HEARD A DEPUTY, A CONSTABLE OR SOMETHING BECAUSE AS OF YESTERDAY, YOU KNOW, IT WAS OVER GOOD.
A MOBILE IS MOST MOBILES DON'T WORK DOWN IN THAT AREA.
WE DO ALSO EXPLAINED TO THEM BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THEY TALKED ABOUT PORNY AND OR WATER TOWER AND ALL THAT AND THAT, AND THE ACCESS OF THE OTHER THINGS IN THEIR PARENTS.
THE SAME THING WITH THE ONE WE'VE GOT OVER HERE.
YOU CAN'T LET HARDLY ANYBODY ON IT BECAUSE THE FREQUENCY THAT EVERYBODY'S USING WILL INTERFERE WITH IT.
AND IF IT STARTS INTERFERING WITH IT, IT CUTS THE CAPACITY OF OUR SERVICE DOWN DRAMATICALLY.
UH, I'VE REACHED OUT TO EVERYBODY OVER THERE.
MOST EVERYBODY ELSE IS ON THE TIRE AND THE STUFF THEY GOT TO THE ENGINEER SAYS THAT IT'S GOING TO INTERFERE WITH OUR STUFF.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S VERY FEW THINGS THAT MAY BE THE ONE THING I KNOW YOU CAN PROBABLY DO IT.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF MANY PEOPLE USE IT ANYMORE.
IT'S SOME OF THE PAGER STUFF IS STILL, I THINK WE'VE GOT ONE OVER, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE USE PAGERS THAT DON'T REALLY IMPACT IT.
UH, BUT A LOT OF OTHER THINGS AND YOU KNOW, I'M ALL FAR, IF WE CAN DO IT, BUT THE FIRST THING I'M GOING TO DO IS CHECK WITH THE ENGINEER AND SEE IF IT'S GOING TO IMPACT THE OPERATION OF THE SAFETY OF THESE OFFICERS OUT THERE.
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OKAY.I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS A NOVEL IDEA AND I JUST DON'T SEE AS WORTH ALL THE HARD, AIN'T TRYING TO KEEP TRACK OF ALL THAT.
SO IF THE SHERIFF GOING BACK TO TWO AND A HALF MILLION, SURE.
YEAH, I KNOW IT'S STILL, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK IT WAS IN WHICH GAME, NOT FOR, I MEAN, YOUR MAN HOURS ARE WORTH SOMETHING TOO ALL THE TIME YOU START MOVING AND ALL THE PAPERWORK THAT GOES WITH IT.
AND I THINK THE CONCERN IS, IS ELECTRIFICATION OFFICE.
AND UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT, IF, IF WE DID A POSITION A LITTLE BIT AND I HAVE TO COME OVER HERE EVERY TIME WITH A GEL OR TRY TO DO THAT, YOU KNOW HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO TAKE ME A PROCESS TO GET SOMEBODY THAT'S GONNA, IT'S GONNA, I'M GONNA WIND UP LOSING MORE PEOPLE FOR THEM HIRING.
BUT IF WE CAN, IF YOU WANT ME TO TAKE THESE FOUR OR FIVE POSITIONS, LET ME SIT DOWN AND REALLY BEAT IT OUT AND SEE HOW MUCH I CAN GIVE IT.
I'LL BE MORE THAN GLAD TO DO THAT, TO HELP OUT WITH WHAT I CAN, BUT THERE'LL BE NO, I'M ALWAYS, IF IT'S NOT, IF IT'S GOING TO BE A POSITION THAT YOU DON'T EXPECT, YOU'RE GOING TO BE FILLING ON OCTOBER 1ST AND THEN THREE MONTHS LATER, THAT THAT DOES GIVE US MORE MONEY TO WORK WITH YOU.
IT'S THE SAME THING AS WE DID LAST TIME WITH THEM SIX WEEKS, WE SAVED HALF A MILLION DOLLARS DOING THAT.
SO LET ME SIT DOWN AND DO SOME STUFF AND IT'S GOOD.
I MEAN, EVERYBODY, IT'S GOOD TO GIVE, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOOD THAT YOU DIDN'T, YOU HAVE THIS MONEY AND YOU GIVE IT BACK AT THE END OF THE YEAR, BUT THEN WE JUST DON'T HAVE USE OF IT DURING THE YEAR.
AND MY BIGGEST THING IS ABOUT IT IS, CAUSE I KNOW IT CAN GO AND CONTINUOUSLY THEN Y'ALL CAN USE CONTINGENCY TO HELP OUT.
AND THAT'S THE WAY I LOOK AT IT.
CAUSE I, I COULD BE LIKE SOME BUDGET PEOPLE.
I KNOW I'M GOING TO SPEND EVERY DIME.
I WON'T SPEND MY MONEY LIKE THAT.
MY SHARING AND SPENDING TAXPAYERS MONEY LIKE IT.
UM, SO BACK TO THE MONEY, HOW MANY OTHER, UM, POSITIONS COULD WE DO THAT WITH? IF WE WAIT UNTIL JANUARY TO ACTUALLY FUND THEM, I JUST HAVE, I WOULD HAVE TO JUST SCRUB THROUGH, I MEAN THE ONE POSITION IN HR HAS BEEN CARRIED FOR THEM.
UM, CERTAINLY AS, AS SERVICE HR DIRECTOR, I KNOW, I KNOW BRITTANY'S PROBABLY WATCHING ME, BUT WE CAN GIVE THAT POSITION UP.
WE'LL WE'LL MAKE, DO WITH OUR THREE AND WE'RE DOING IT SO FAR.
WE CAN, WE'LL KEEP DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING.
I CAN PITCH IN COVER ANY GAPS THAT GIVES UP ONE.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S $60,000 THAT MIGHT NOT BE ACCURATE TODAY.
I KNOW IT'S ONE OF THEM SAYING, I THINK THANK YOU SHOWED I HAD AN OPEN POSITION AND I DON'T MIND AT ALL FOR THEM.
I THINK THE PROBLEM, UM, ONE OR TWO.
SO WHAT WAY IT LOOKS LIKE ONE OR TWO THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
YOU, I THINK THE, THE OTHER, THE OTHER BIG ASK IS, YOU KNOW, THIS STILL ON THIS LIST IS WHAT'S BEING ASKED FOR.
I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT $300,000 THAT I CARRIED, I HAVE THAT IN THE MATH NOW, SO THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE MAKING THOSE EVERGREEN ADJUSTMENTS.
IF I MAKE THOSE EVERGREEN ADJUSTMENTS, I'M GOING TO NEED MORE AND I CARRY IT OVER 300.
IF YOU LOOK THROUGH THIS LIST AND THEN MAYBE I'M, MAYBE I'M JUMPING AHEAD TOO FAR, BUT I THINK WE'RE, WHILE WE'RE ON LABOR, YOU'LL SEE I'VE GOT NEW POSITION LISTED OUT TO THE RIDE.
SO THOSE ARE THE NEW POSITIONS THAT ARE BEING ASKED FOR EVERYTHING ELSE IS EITHER AN INCREASE TO THE CURRENT BASE, WHICH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT 300,000 WE HAVE OUT THERE IT'S ALREADY IN THIS MASS.
SO I WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THAT IN ADDITION TO IT.
AND THEN I THINK THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE 35 NEW POSITIONS ON THIS LIST.
I'VE GOT TO HAVE A YES OR A NO.
AND AT SOME POINT WE GOT TO KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THESE IN OR NOT.
IF WE'RE GOING TO BAKE THEM IN, THEN I'VE GOT TO GIVE THEM TO BRANDY AND SHE'S GOING TO PUT THEM ON THIS LIST FOR EVERY ONE PERSON THAT YOU ADD JUST AS JUST, THIS IS JUST ROUGH MAP AT THE BASE LEVEL.
AND I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S IT, YOUR MINIMUM, MOST OF THESE ARE NOT, I MEAN, SOME OF THESE ARE BASED SOME OF THESE AREN'T ALL RIGHT.
SO YOU'RE PROBABLY, YOU'RE PROBABLY CLOSER TO A, TO A $65,000 AVERAGE FOR EVERY NEW POSITION THAT YOU HIRE.
AND THAT'S A SUSTAINABLE POSITION THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CARRY FORWARD SOMEWHERE ELSE.
WHAT, YOU KNOW, AS, AS A BUDGET ADMINISTRATOR AND I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THIS, WHAT I DON'T SEE IS BUDGETS THAT GO DOWN YEAR OVER YEAR.
YOU DON'T SEE A LOT OF THAT, RIGHT? YOU SEE SOME EFFICIENCIES WITHIN A BUDGET AND I KNOW WHAT COMMISSIONER KATES AND I HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS PRETTY IN-DEPTH ONE DAY ABOUT OVER TIME, YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD EXPECT TO SEE EFFICIENCIES PICKED UP WITHIN AN OPERATION, ESPECIALLY ON THE LABOR SIDE OF AN EQUATION.
I UNDERSTAND SUPPLIES AND THINGS, BUT OVER TIME I WOULD, I WOULD, I WOULD EXPECT TO SEE SOME OF THEM BECAUSE OF TECHNOLOGY, TECHNOLOGY, SKILL SETS, ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT AREAS EXPERIENCED.
SO YOU, YOU TYPICALLY WOULD SEE A LITTLE WAGE COMPRESSION THROUGH THE COURSE OF THE MIDDLE OF A, OF A BUDGET
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OVER, OVER, OVER PERIODS OF TIME.I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, AND THIS ISN'T ABOUT JERRY.
THIS IS ABOUT AN OPERATION THAT WAS VIEWED FROM A FRESH EYES.
A JAR WAS FIVE POSITIONS A YEAR AGO, OR OPERATING THAT DEPARTMENT WITH THREE.
AND WE'RE MORE EFFICIENT NOW THAN WE WERE A YEAR AGO.
AM I AT LEAST FROM MY OPTIC? SO IS THAT'S THE TOP OF THINGS THAT, THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO SEE AND I GET SOME OF THESE POSITIONS, SOME OF THEM ARE GROWTH POSITIONS.
SOME OF THEM ARE OTHER THINGS I HAVE.
I HAVE SOME SUGGESTIONS AS WE GO DOWN THIS LIST OF THINGS THAT I THINK I CAN TRY TO HELP, AT LEAST FROM THE GROUP THAT I SUPPORT.
ALL RIGHT, YOU GET SUGGESTIONS, REDUCE THIS NUMBER.
SO, SO ONE OF THEM WOULD CART BEFORE THE HORSE, BECAUSE IF WE CAN'T FUND WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE, I DON'T REMEMBER IF I WERE TALKING ABOUT ADDING NEW PEOPLE, WAIT, WELL, WHAT'S THAT BUTTON THAT'S PAINTED IT OFF, RIGHT? IF WE CAN'T FIND THAT A REDUCTION, YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT AN INCREASE, IT'S STILL, IT WOULD STILL BE A SLIGHTLY MORE IT'S A REDUCTION OF THE INCREASE IS THE REDUCTION OF THE INCREASE.
THAT'S A REDUCTION OF THE INCREASE.
BUT IF WE ARE 2.4 SHORT, 2.5 SHORT OF WHERE WE ARE TODAY, THEN THERE'S THEN UNLESS WE ADD NEW REVENUE TO SPEND, THEN THERE'S NO WAY TO FUND EVEN A SINGLE NEW POSITION.
I, IT, YOU JUST TAKE THIS BAY BRIDGE, THEN THE ROADS AND BRIDGES SHOULDN'T BE IN THIS TOTAL, RIGHT? WELL, YES IT IS.
BUT, BUT THAT'D BE THE SAME CONVERSATION WE HAVE FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE.
RIGHT? YOU CAN JUST HAVE TO HAVE THAT.
YOU CAN HAVE IT AS TWO SEPARATE CONVERSATIONS OR YOU CAN HAVE IT AS A COMBINED BECAUSE IT IS ALL ABOUT HOW MUCH REVENUE IS THERE TO SPEND.
BASED UPON WHAT YOU TARGETED FOR REVENUE.
WE'D HAVE TO HAVE THE SAME CONVERSATION.
THE NO, IF YOU DO THIS, I THINK WHAT I HEARD COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER HUNT SAY, IT'S THE FIRST THING YOU WANTED TO DO WAS TALK ABOUT YOUR EXISTING EMPLOYEES AND WHAT CAN YOU DO WITH YOUR EXISTING EMPLOYEES? SO WE WANT TO GO IT IN STRIDE.
FIRST WE CAN COVER THE 400 DELTA WE HAVE NOW A 1% IS ANOTHER TWO 80 OR 2%, ANOTHER 600 WAGE WAGE STUDIES, PROBABLY ANOTHER 200.
SO WE NEED, WE NEED SOMEWHERE IN THAT 800 TO A MILLION RANGE TO TAKE WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO TO YOUR EXISTING PORTFOLIO.
THEN YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THIS PORTFOLIO.
AND IF ANYTHING, ANYTHING YOU WANT TO LAY AROUND ON TOP OF THAT, LET'S SEE IF WE CAN REACH A DECISION ABOUT USING THOSE TWO POTS OF MONEY THAT WE HAVE.
UH, UM, AND I'M NOT PROPOSING THIS.
I'M JUST ASKING THIS QUESTION.
WHAT'S THE APPETITE THAT YOU HAVE FOR USING THE ONE OF THE, WELL, ONE OF THE TWO THAT I HAD WAS, UM, WAS VACANT POSITIONS.
BUT OTHER THAN WHAT AMOUNT OF HELP THAT THE SHERIFF'S CAN BE ABLE TO, TO THAT KIND OF, THAT'S KIND OF A DEAD CONVERSATION.
THE OTHER ONE WAS WE HAVE CARES ACT MONEY.
WHAT'S THE, LET'S START WITH THAT ONE.
DO YOU ALL WANT TO USE THAT MONEY TO ADDRESS THE SHORTFALL? EVEN THOUGH I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S A SUSTAINABLE THING.
I DON'T THINK WE COULD USE IT FOR THIS LIST.
I'M JUST SAYING, DO WE WANT TO DO THAT WELL PRESENTED, IS THAT AN AUTHORIZED USE OF THAT MONEY? IF MONEY IS THERE'S MONEY, THERE ARE NO STRINGS ATTACHED TO THAT MONEY.
WELL, THE FIRST THING YOU HAVE TO DO IS COVER THE TWO, FIVE IN YOUR CURRENT BUDGET, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
YOU GOT TO COVER THIS, THIS, THIS IS OFF.
THIS IS CAN'T BE, YOU GOT TO COVER THIS FIRST.
THIS HAS TO BE, THIS HAS TO BE A ZERO.
TWO OF THAT IS THE TOWER, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
TWO OF THAT TOWER, TWO ONE IS, OH, WE'VE MADE THE DECISION ABOUT THE TOWER AND WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GOING TO ASK THAT THAT MONEY BE COMMITTED FROM THIS YEAR.
THAT'S GONNA REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY YOU HAVE TO USE FOR NEXT YEAR, BECAUSE IT'S ALL IN THE SAME POT.
IT'S ALL IN THIS YEAR'S FUND BOUND.
WELL, I NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHEN I CLOSE THE BOOKS.
YES, SEPTEMBER 3RD, ALL THE MONEY NOT USED IN GENERAL FUND GHOST TO FUND OUT, UNLESS WE PUT IT IN COMMITTED FUND BALANCE.
IT STILL GOES TO FUND BALANCE.
GOES TO FUND BALANCE AND THEN I PULL IT AS COMMITTED.
HAVE YOU DONE THE SHEET TO SHOW HIM THE TAXABLE DOLLARS IN THE POSSIBLE TAX RATE AND WHAT WE HAVE TO HAVE FOR THREE? I, I, WELL, IT'S, IT'S MUTE BECAUSE FIRST I GOTTA KNOW WHERE THE REVENUE IS.
SO WE KNOW WE'RE LOCKED IN ON INS.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE A TAX RATE, IT'S THE, IT WORKS THE OTHER WAY.
LET ME, LET ME INTERRUPT THIS CONVERSATION WHERE WE STARTED OFF.
IT'S NOT HOW MUCH MONEY, HOW MUCH TAX MONEY CAN WE DO? WE HAVE ACCESS TO IS HOW MUCH DO WE WANT TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF DOLLARS THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM TAXPAYERS FUND? AND THAT'S THE QUESTION, THAT'S THE QUESTION? HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH WE CAN WEEKEND ABOUT 5%, RIGHT? WE CAN, WE CAN SAY
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HOWEVER MUCH MONEY WE WANT THAT IT MIGHT BE AS MUCH AS THAT THE VOTERS WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE IT, BUT WE CAN.I MEAN, WE CAN GO WAY HIGHER THAN 5%, BUT WE MIGHT'VE COMMITTED COMMITMENT, LIKE YOU SAID, BUT WHAT ABOUT LIKE A 1.2, 5%? IS THAT GOING TO MAKE THAT MUCH DIFFERENCE? AS FAR AS REVENUE ASSURANCE OVER SOME OF THIS STUFF, EVERY, EVERY 1% ON THE CURRENT BASED UPON 1% OF PRIOR YEAR REVENUE THAT YOU, YOUR, YOUR BUDGET LAST YEAR WAS $42 MILLION IN TAX DOLLARS.
SO EVERY, EVERY 1% YOU PUT ON TOP OF THAT, IT'D BE 600,000 OR 500,000 TO GIVE A 1.2% COST OF LIVING.
RIGHT NOW, I'M TALKING REVENUE, I'M TALKING ABOUT REVENUE.
SO IN REVENUE, IF WE DIDN'T WANT TO CUT THE TAX RATE AT FIVE AND WE'D CUT IT TO FOUR YEAR GAIN, THEN I GOT 245 MILLION REVENUE FOR EVERY 1% OF REVENUE GENERATES $420,000 OF MONEY.
THAT'S HOW MANY, 140,000 THAT WOULD CUT 2%.
SO THAT'S REALLY, REALLY THE RELEVANT QUESTION IS HOW MUCH, I MEAN, HOW MUCH DO WE, HOW MUCH DO WE FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO ADD TAX REVENUE TO RUN THE CAMERA? AND YOU KNOW, THE TRUTH IS THERE'S.
I MEAN, WE COULD SPEND 10% MORE, I THINK, BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY THE QUESTION.
HOW MUCH DO WE NEED IT? SHOULDN'T BE WELL, I MEAN, I THINK, LIKE I SAID, THE OTHER DAY, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH DOING THE EXERCISES, BUT THERE'S COMES A POINT WHEN MAYBE THE EXERCISES THAT WE DO IS NOT REALLY FRUITFUL.
SO WE HAVE TO, WE MIGHT HAVE TO CHANGE OUR PERCENTAGE A LITTLE BIT, AND IT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH, YOU KNOW, INCREASE SAVINGS, STREAMLINING AND CHANGE THE PERCENT, A LITTLE BIT AND COMBINED.
AND I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE DOING JUSTICE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES AND WE'RE DOING JUSTICE TO THE CITIZENS BECAUSE WE'RE REDUCING, WE'RE STILL REDUCING THE TAX RATE BECAUSE YOU SAID THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW, WE'RE PROPOSING IS 60 MINUTES.
THERE ARE ABOUT, YEAH, I CAN TAKE YOUR VOTE.
APPROVAL RATE WILL BE BELOW THIS YEAR IS RIGHT.
YOU HAVE TO LOWER THE TAX RATE ON THE DAY.
I MEAN, IT'S A, IT'S A LITTLE MOVING TARGET BECAUSE THE PROPERTIES.
BUT I MEAN, GOSH, WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THE 42 MILLION? THAT WAS OUR BUDGETED TAX REVENUE FOR LAST YEAR BECAUSE THE TOTAL BUDGET WAS 52.
NOW I'M JUST TO INTACCT OUR BUDGETED TAX REVENUE.
SO, SO YOU HAVE A RANGE, YOU'LL GET A RANGE FROM THE TAX OFFICE.
IT'LL SAY, THIS IS YOUR NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE.
THIS IS YOUR, THIS IS YOUR VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE INS IS OFF THE TABLE, BUT IT'S SO YOU TAKE THE SUBTRACT THAT RATE OUT BECAUSE I N S IS, IS NOT SUBJECT TO THOSE TWO NUMBERS AND YOU ADD ROAD AND BRIDGE AND MNO TOGETHER.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT YOU'LL GET.
AND YOU, YOU FALL IN BETWEEN IN THAT RANGE, BUT 1% OF REVENUE IS $420,000.
AND RIGHT NOW IN THIS MATH, I HAVE THAT PLUS THE ADJUSTMENTS TO OTHER REVENUE, PLUS $300 IN COMMITTED FUND BALANCE.
IT'S IN THIS CURRENT MATH, ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT FUND BALANCE IS GOING TO BE THIS YEAR.
AND I DON'T THINK KAREN KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT FUND BALANCE IS GOING TO BE.
SHE CAN GIVE YOU AN ESTIMATE, A GUESSTIMATE, CURRENT CPI, THE CURRENT CPI, DEPENDING ON WHO YOU TALK TO RANK, JUST FROM FOUR TO 7.1% IS THE LAST THING I READ 2.4, 2.4 IS, UH, THE, UH, THE CAUSE RID OF THE CURRENT.
I'M SORRY, BUT I THINK I SENT THAT TO EVERYBODY I PROJECTED WAS 2.1 WAS A RIGHT NOW IT'S RANGING, DEPENDING ON THE PROJECTED IS TWO POINT BETWEEN IT'S LIKE TWO IS TWO AND A HALF OR 2.4% IS WHAT THEY'RE PROJECTING THROUGH 20, 24.
BUT NOW, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S BLACK MAGIC, BUT SO MAYBE, MAYBE WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO ACCEPT THAT 5% IS NOT DOABLE.
AND WE GOTTA BE AT 7%, 7% REVENUE GROWTH IS GETTING PRETTY CLOSE TO THE HARD TO EXPLAIN RIGHT.
I MEAN, I, I'M NOT SAYING THAT THAT'S RIDICULOUS, BUT UH, NONE OF US HAVE SEEN A 7% INCREASE IN OUR INCOMES OUR WAY NOW WE TOOK CARE OF THEM WHILE AGO.
SO MY POINT IS, I MEAN, WE'RE, SO WE'RE ASKING FOR 7% MORE MONEY FROM OUR TAXPAYERS AND, AND I DON'T THINK ANY OF THEM ARE GETTING 7% MORE MONEY IN THEIR PERSONAL LIVES.
WELL THEN, THEN WE DON'T NEED TO BE TALKING ABOUT NEW POSITIONS AT ALL.
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SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT WE MIGHT HAVE TO BE TALKING ABOUT REALLOCATION OF POSITION.UH, I DO HAVE ONE THING TO MAYBE HELP OUT.
AS FAR AS OUR SIDE, THIS IS WHAT I'VE COME WITH.
WORKING WITH BRANDY, TAKING FOUR POSITIONS, UH, ONLY FUNDING IT FOR EIGHT MONTHS, CUTTING FOUR OUT FROM EACH ONE.
WE GO AHEAD AND CUT THE PAINTING.
WE CAN EITHER TRY TO DO IT HERE OR DOWN THE ROAD A LITTLE BIT.
SO IT GIVES US 240,000 RIGHT OFF THE BAT.
IT AIN'T A WHOLE BUNCH, BUT JUST A LITTLE BIT TO HELP TOWARDS THE EMPLOYEES AND ALL THAT.
IF WE CAN DO THAT, WE CAN, WE CAN FIX THAT, BUT WE'LL FUND FOR DEPUTY POSITIONS FOR EIGHT MONTHS AND THEN LET'S GO AND CUT THE PAIN.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT THAT BAD THAT I CAN'T LIVE WITH IT, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE TIME WE GET MOVING OVER AND GETTING BUILDINGS IN THERE THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK PRESENTABLE WITH THE REST OF THE BILL, AS PICKY AS BRIAN BEAVERS IS I CAN'T, I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT STATEMENT.
I REALLY CAN'T MAYBE, UM, MAYBE THAT'LL HELP A LITTLE BIT.
SO I GUESS I LOST TRACK OF THE TOWER MONEY.
AND THIS IS KIND OF YOU, KAREN.
I THOUGHT THAT WE FELT LIKE WE WOULD HAVE SUFFICIENT MONEY LEFTOVER IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET THAT WE COULD COMMIT THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE MA THE MONEY FOR THE TOWER TO COME IN.
IS THAT TRUE? THAT WE HAVE 2.6 MILLION FUND BALANCE.
HE CANNOT GET THE SERVICE OR THE PRODUCTS BY NINE 30.
SO I CANNOT PUT IT IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET THAT COMMITTED.
WE'LL GO BACK TO REGULAR FUND BALANCE.
I CAN RECOMMIT IT WITH THE NEW BUDGET AND THAT WOULD, SO WE WOULDN'T ACTUALLY BE SPENDING THE MONEY THIS YEAR, BUT THAT, THAT TAKES THE $2 MILLION HICKEY OFF THOSE FOR NEXT YEAR.
SO LET'S PUT TALKING ABOUT THE TOWER.
LET'S PRETEND LIKE THE TOWER IS PAID FOR, BECAUSE WE CAN DO IT THAT WELL, JUST, JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR.
LAST YEAR, AT THIS TIME, KAREN WAS ABLE TO GIVE US A GUESSTIMATE OF WHAT SHE THOUGHT FUND BALANCE WOULD BE.
THAT GUESSTIMATE LAST YEAR WAS 2.8 MILLION.
I THINK SHE CLOSED THE BOOKS AT THREE ONE, BY MY MIND.
SHE CLOSED THE BOOKS AT THREE ONE.
SO THIS YEAR SHE'S TELLING YOU, SHE DOESN'T KNOW THAT NUMBER.
SHE'S NOT GUESSTIMATED, BUT LET'S JUST SAY IT'S THREE, ONE.
WE, YOU JUST TOOK TWO SIX OF IT.
SO YOU ONLY GOT FIVE LEFT
IT'S THE SUM OF THE PARTS YOU TOOK TWO, ONE OF IT NOW YOU'VE ONLY GOT ONE LEFT.
SO IT TOTAL FUND BALANCE INCLUDES COMMITTED FUND BALANCE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW SHE HADN'T HAD TO TOUCH IT.
BUT IF SHE, IF SOMEBODY OVERSPENDS, SHE'S GOING TO HAVE TO GO IN THERE AND START PULLING THAT MONEY DOWN.
BUT AS IT STANDS TODAY, WE HAVE TWO SIX ON TOUCH PLUS WHATEVER IS NOT GOING TO BE SPENT IN THE REMAINDER OF THE BUDGETS.
AND THAT AVERAGE OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS IS WE'VE AVERAGED ABOUT 4% ON SPEND OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.
AND THAT'S GONE INTO FUND BALANCE AND YOU NEEDED IT IN FUND BALANCE.
BUT NOW THAT YOU'VE GOT YOUR FUND BALANCE UP TO A, TO AN ACCEPTABLE LEVEL, YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN THERE EACH YEAR.
YOU CAN PUT A LITTLE BIT IN THERE AND STILL BE ON TRACK.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS, BUT IN ORDER TO GIVE A RAISE, YOU GOT TO HAVE 620 OR WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS.
AND YOU'RE YOU STILL GOT A 400 DELTA HERE.
SO I GOT TO HAVE THAT MUCH OF IT.
BUT I THINK THE COMBINATION OF THOSE PARTS, YOU'RE PRETTY CLOSE AND STILL STAYING WITHIN YOUR 5%.
YOU'RE PRETTY CLOSE WITHOUT THIS, CORRECT THIS WITHOUT THIS YOU'RE CLEAR, YOU ARE, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE WE JUST KEEP COMING BACK TO THIS SHAME PLACE WHERE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE THAT.
BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS COURT COMMIT THAT FUND BALANCE SO THAT I CAN PUT IT IN THIS MATH IN ORDER TO MOVE THIS THING FORWARD, YOU'VE GOT TO SAY, YES, COMMIT THE FUND BALANCE SO THAT I CAN PUT IT INTO MATH AND I CAN BUILD A BUDGET FOR NEXT TUESDAY.
SO MY ASK WOULD BE FOR KAREN TO GIVE ME HER BEST GUESSTIMATE ON COMMITTED ON TOTAL FUND BALANCE.
AND THEN I CAN PULL MONIES AND I'LL PUT THEM IN HERE AND I'LL COVER ALL THE GAPS THAT ARE IN YOUR CURRENT BUDGET, PLUS WHATEVER RAISE YOU WANT TO GIVE SOMEBODY, TELL ME WHAT THAT NUMBER IS.
I'LL TAKE THAT OUT OF FUND BALANCE.
I'LL PUT THAT IN THERE AND THEN WE'LL, AND THEN WE'LL GO FROM THERE.
I'M JUST THROWING THIS DOWN THERE TO MOVE THE DISCUSSION.
SO, SO WE KNOW THAT MATT, RANDY'S ALREADY DONE THE MATH.
WE KNOW WHAT THAT, WHAT THAT MATH IS.
I'LL TAKE EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW OUT OF FUND BALANCE.
FIRST OUT OF PROJECTED FUND BALANCE, UNTIL KAREN TELLS ME YOU'VE OVERDRAWN THE ACCOUNT OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE, THEN WE'LL WE'LL, RIGHT-SIZE IT.
AND THEN WE CAN GO BACK TO YOUR REVENUE THAT YOU WANT FROM TAX, RIGHT? IF YOU THINK THERE'S MORE OUT THERE, YOU CAN GO BACK AND YOU CAN VISIT
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YOUR 5% NUMBER AND THAT WOULD GET YOU REVENUE, BUT YOU GOT TO START ONCE WE GET THAT LOCKED IN, I MEAN, I'VE LOOKED ALL UP AND DOWN THESE BUDGET, THERE REALLY ISN'T ANYTHING FROM ANY OF THE DEPARTMENTS.THAT'S JUST OUT OF WAY OUT OF WHACK.
I WILL GO BACK AND SCRUB THE ONES THAT, THAT I'M SUPERVISING, BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T GET THIS POSITION, THEN YOU DON'T GET THE COST.
RIGHT? SO THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF IT IS.
I GUESS IT WAS YEAR, LAST YEAR, YEAR BEFORE LAST, WE WENT BACK TO ALL THE DEPARTMENTS.
IF I REMEMBER THIS RIDE AND ASK THEM FOR PROPER SCENT, YOU DID.
AND THAT WAS PRETTY SUCCESSFUL.
SHERIFF, SHERIFF POINTED UP, I'LL SHARE.
SO WHY DON'T WE, UM, I THINK HE'S DONE THAT TODAY.
WHY DON'T WE? YEAH, WE'LL LEAVE YOU ALONE, SHERIFF.
UH, WHY DON'T WE DO THAT? UH, WHY DON'T WE DO THAT NOW? LET'S ASK LET'S.
I MEAN, I THINK ASKING FOR A SPECIFIC REDUCTION JUST ASKED FOR 5%, IS THAT A GOOD NUMBER WE WERE SUCCESSFUL AT? IT'S NOT A, NOT EVERYONE WAS ABLE TO DO IT, BUT WE DID GENERATE A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF A LOT OF PEOPLE.
IF YOU ASK THEM THAT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO SCRUB THEIR OFFICE SUPPLIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND I THINK AT SOME POINT WE DO NEED TO GIVE THIS A, A F A FAIR AND DUE DILIGENCE LOOK, BECAUSE SOME OF THESE POSITIONS ARE DETRIMENTAL TO THE OPERATION OF SOMETHING THAT'S GROWING PRETTY FAST.
AND I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I DON'T, I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH AND HIGHLIGHT ALL OF THEM, BUT SOME OF THESE ARE PRETTY LEGITIMATE THAT YOU GOT TO LOOK AT THEM AND SAY, LET'S GO, GO THROUGH THE LIST JUST AS THE EXERCISE.
UH, I'M GOING TO S AND I'M GOING TO START OFF AND I'M GOING TO JUST REMIND EVERYBODY TO SIT DOWN.
CAUSE I'M THE NUMBER ONE ON THE LIST.
AND THAT IS, UH, THE COURT COORDINATOR IN MY OFFICE, WHO EVERYBODY KNOWS IS, UM, GOING TO HAVE COMPLETED HER EDUCATION FOR, TO BE A COURT REPORTER IN, UM, PROBABLY IN MARCH AND, UH, FROM OUR CONVERSATIONS, IF SHE WERE TO HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY A REALLY GOOD HIGH-PAYING JOB.
AND IF SHE HAS OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A JOB DOING THAT, UM, SHE WOULD PROBABLY TAKE IT.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE, UH, THE COMMUNICATIONS COORDINATOR IS HELPING TO COVER THAT OFFICE THAT OFFICER'S ALWAYS TRADITIONALLY HAD THREE STAFF PEOPLE IN IT.
UM, THE CHALLENGE WITH THAT OFFICE IS THAT IN THE COURSE OF A WEEK, UH, SHE DEALS WITH ABOUT A HUNDRED DIFFERENT.
I MEAN, AT LEAST A HUNDRED DIFFERENT QUESTIONS.
EVERYBODY GOES TO THE COUNTY JUDGE'S OFFICE TO FIND OUT WHERE TO PAY THEIR TICKET TO.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN HAVE ALL THIS INTERNET ACCESS AND ALL THAT STUFF, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO STOP.
UH, IT'S HER POSITION HAS GOT, SHE'S NOT JUST LIKE THE REGULAR CORE COORDINATOR, SHE JUST DOES A LOT OF THINGS.
SO I HATE TO GET US IN A POSITION.
I THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOMEBODY AT LEAST SIX MONTHS TO PICK UP ON ALL THE NUANCES OF WHAT GO ON IN THERE.
SO, UM, I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S, THAT'S JUST KINDA THE STATUS.
AND I MEAN, IF WE DON'T FILL THAT POSITION, THEN WE'LL JUST LET THE CHIPS FALL WHERE THEY MAY.
BUT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH A LOT OF UNSERVICED PEOPLE THAT WE DO THAT.
SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDING A POSITION OR JUST FILLING, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDING THE, THE PLAN, THE, THE ORGANIZATION CHART THAT WE CREATED SHOWS, ADDING AN ASSISTANT COURT COORDINATOR TO TRAIN UNDER HER, UH, WITH THE ASSUMPTION THAT, THAT SHE MIGHT NOT BE THERE, YOU KNOW, MID-YEAR OR SOMETHING, BUT SHE MOVES UP TANKS ANNABEL'S PLACE, OR HE, OR WHOEVER THIS IS, AND THEN THIS POSITION GOES AWAY.
AND ONCE THEY TAKE, WELL, WE'D HAVE TO SEE HOW AT WORST, YOU KNOW, THE PLAN FOR THAT'S A SUBJECTIVE QUESTION.
THE PLAN FOR THE COMMUNICATIONS COORDINATOR IS FOR THAT, FOR HER TO NOT BE IN THE OFFICE.
I MEAN, THE PLAN AND THE PLAN IS FOR HER TO BE GONE IN, TO BE OUT, MAKING CONNECTIONS WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT, AND SHE'S DOING A GREAT JOB AT THAT, BUT, UH, IT'S A LOT FOR ONE, IT'S A LOT TO HAVE ONE PERSON IN THAT OFFICE TO, I MEAN, WE, I MEAN, THEY, THEY STAY IN FOR LUNCH.
MOST OF THE TIRE SHE DOES ANNABEL DOES.
SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT OFFICE CAN FUNCTION WITH JUST TWO STAFF, PEOPLE, IF ONE OF THEM IS GOING TO BE OUT A LOT.
I'D LIKE TO GO DOWN THINGS, TERRIBLE THING TO DO WITHOUT ONE, SORRY.
IT'S A MAD THING TO DO WITH THAT ONE.
WELL, THAT'S NOT A GOOD, IT'S A VERY UNIQUE, IT'S A VERY UNIQUE POSITION.
BECAUSE OF ALL THE, IN COURSE, THEN YOU'VE GOT THE BILINGUAL ASPECT OF THAT, WHICH IS ALSO AN IMPORTANT FACTOR, BUT, UM, I JUST THINK WE SHOULD BE CAREFUL ABOUT
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GOING TOO THIN IN THAT OFFICE.UH, JUST BECAUSE OF THE WIDE VARIETY OF THINGS THAT COME IN THERE JUST BY THE NATURE.
THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE GO WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING FOR INFORMATION.
SO ANYWAY, WE CAN PASS THAT ON DOWN, BUT MAKE A DECISION ON THAT LAYER.
JERRY, YOU WANT TO CALL UP OR YOU WANT ME TO KNOW I'LL I'LL, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL REALLY I'LL TAKE OFF WITH IT.
SO THE NEXT POSITION IS VETERANS SERVICES.
VETERANS SERVICES IS CONTINUING TO SERVE MORE AND MORE VETERANS.
IT WAS, IT'S A VERY SUMMER TO WHAT HAPPENED IN INDIGENT HEALTHCARE.
YOU GOT A ONE PERSON SHOW BACK THERE, THEY'RE DOING EVERYTHING AND YOU CAN'T GROW AND YOU CAN'T LEAVE.
SO ANYTIME ROBERT'S GONE, YOU KNOW, TOM OR ANYTHING ELSE, THAT OFFICE CLOSES AND YOU HAVE NO SERVICES BEING HAPPENING AND YOU CAN'T REALLY MOVE YOUR OFFICE FORWARD.
SO ROBERT ASKED FOR A CLERK STARTED ASS LAST YEAR, THIS YEAR, HE'S ASKING IF HE CAN, HE CAN PUT A CLERK ON TO HELP JUST SO THAT HE'S GOT COMPLETE COVERAGE IN THAT OFFICE.
SO IT'S A BASELINE POSITION AT A CLERK.
UM, I'VE SEEN THE NUMBERS AND VETERAN SERVICES.
THEY ARE DEFINITELY GROWING, THEY'RE GROWING EXPONENTIALLY.
IT KIND OF LIKE, KIND OF LIKE DESERT OFFICE IS GROWING THOSE SERVICES.
IS THERE MORE THE REVENUE AT ALL IN THAT OFFICE? LIKE GRANTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? NO, SIR.
IT'S, IT'S IT'S REVENUE THAT COMES TO THE COUNTY, BUT IT DOESN'T COME INTO THIS COUNTY RIGHT.
IT COMES INTO THE OVERALL KAUFMAN COUNTY THAT HE'S ABLE TO BRING MONEY IN HERE TO HELP VETERANS WHO THEN SPEND THAT MONEY BACK IN THE COMMUNITY OR HEALTHCARE SERVICES OR ALL, ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
BUT THAT'S WHAT THAT ASK IS, IS FOR A VETERANS SERVICE.
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT POTENTIALLY EXPANDING OUR VETERANS SERVICES PROGRAM AS PART OF SOME OF THE RENOVATIONS OUT TO THAT PART OF THAT PART OF TOWN.
AND WHETHER THE OFFICE MOVES OUT THERE AS SOME TYPE OF A, OF AN EXTENT EXTINCTION OR AN EXPANSION.
AND CERTAINLY THERE'S CERTAINLY A DEMAND.
AT LEAST THE NUMBERS WOULD TELL YOU THERE'S A DEMAND.
UM, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE ASS YOU ASK US TO BRING ON AN ENTRY LEVEL CLERK.
UM, SO CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD ASK IF WE CAN'T DO IT IN OCTOBER, COULD WE TALK ABOUT MAYBE BRINGING THEM ON IN JANUARY? THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST, AT LEAST, AT LEAST FOR NOW THAT WE PENCIL THAT IN FOR JANUARY.
AND THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD AT LEAST GIVE THAT FUTURE TO PLAN FOR, AND WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.
THE INCREMENTAL COST ARE VERY, VERY LOW.
I CAN MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS IN HIS BUDGET.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS, WHILE WE'RE ON VETERANS' SERVICES, THAT THAT PART NEEDS SOME HELP.
WE'VE GOT TO HAVE TO SPEND SOME MONEY OUT THERE.
AND SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT A LITTLE MORE MONEY BACK INTO IT.
UH, WE ARE WORKING ON SOME GRANT MONEY AND SOME OTHER THINGS THAT ARE OUT THERE.
AND WE THINK THAT MAYBE SOME OF THIS AMERICAN FUNDS AMERICAN, YOU KNOW, WOULD, WOULD HELP.
AND SO I'LL WORK ON WITH RAYLAND ON HOW WE CAN PENCIL IN SOME OF THAT AS WELL, BUT THEY NEED ABOUT $50,000 WORTH OF WORK JUST TO GET IT UP TO STANDARD.
SO I'LL PUT THAT DOWN FOR JANUARY.
YOU WOULD THINK IN THE, IN, IN THE NEW SERVICES THAT, UH, THEM AS WITH THE PEOPLE GETTING THEM GOVERNMENT MONEY ON THAT, I THINK SO I THINK THERE IS SOME OPPORTUNITY TO THINK THAT THERE'LL BE PLENTY OPPORTUNITY.
SO I'M GOING TO KICK THOSE TIRES A LITTLE HARDER.
I DON'T THINK IT'LL COVER SALARIES, BUT SUDDENLY WE'LL COVER THOSE OTHER, THOSE OTHER FIXED COSTS AND, YOU KNOW, REPAIR COSTS.
AND THOSE TYPES OF, I DON'T KNOW THAT MAD, IF SOMEBODY STARTED ASKING THEY MIGHT EVEN COVER HIS HEAD, THEY MIGHT, THEY MIGHT BE HONEST.
I THINK THERE'S STILL A LOT TO BE DISCOVERED IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS ON THAT ONE.
SO THEN THAT'S A, LET'S DO THE SAME THING ON THAT.
LET'S MAKE THAT A JANUARY START.
THE NEXT TWO ARE FIRE MARSHALL.
IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'M GOING TO, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND DOVETAIL INTO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
SO, UM, I'VE LISTENED TO THE COURT.
I'VE, I'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET INTO BOTH OF THESE DEPARTMENTS AND LOOK AT THESE DEPARTMENTS.
AND I THINK THE ULTIMATE GOAL HERE, AT LEAST FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, WHEN I THINK AS BEST AS WE, WE CREATE IT, WE CREATE WHAT'S CALLED A ONE-STOP SHOP.
THAT'S WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM THE COURT THAT WE CREATE A POSITION THAT IS REALLY THE DIVISION OF PUBLIC WORKS.
THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT THE DIVISION IS.
AND WITHIN PUBLIC WORKS, YOU WOULD HAVE EVERYTHING THAT YOU NEED.
SO YOU WOULD HAVE FIRE MARSHALS, OFFICE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES OFFICE, AND NOW, NOW COUNTY ENGINEER, BUT FROM THE RECENT RECENT DECISION OF THE COURT, WHEN ALL BE IN ONE PLACE, UM, THEY'RE ALL MOVING TO ONE PLACE IN TWO WEEKS.
AND SO HAVING SAID THAT, IF I LOOK AT THE TASK THAT ARE HAPPENING WITHIN THOSE DEPARTMENTS AND WHAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING WITHIN THOSE DEPARTMENTS IS YOU HAVE A FIRE MARSHALL'S OFFICE.
THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S INSPECTING CONCRETE AND STEEL STRUCTURES AND FIRE SPRINKLERS.
AND YOU HAVE AN ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES THAT ARE DOING SEPTIC SYSTEMS AND ENVIRONMENTAL AND SUBDIVISIONS.
I BELIEVE THERE'S SOME EFFICIENCIES TO BE GAINED BY.
I DON'T BELIEVE I NEED A LICENSED PEACE OFFICER TO DO ALL OF THAT WORK.
I THINK THAT'S JUST MY OBSERVATION.
I DON'T BELIEVE WE NEED A, A LICENSED PEACE OFFICER.
I THINK A LICENSED PEACE OFFICER NEEDS TO INVESTIGATE FIRES AND SHERIFF, YOU MAY KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS ARENA THAN ME, BUT, BUT I THINK THAT, UH, YOU GO IN A FIRE MARSHALL'S OFFICE, YOU NEEDED
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A, YOU NEED A POLICE OFFICER TO INVESTIGATE FIRE THINGS AND REVIEW FIRE STUFF, ARSON STUFF.I WILL SAY THIS FOR YOUR INSPECTOR, FOR THE FIRE CODE STUFF, FIRE CODE STUFF, FIRE CODE STUFF.
FOR, I KNOW THAT OFFICE IS DOING MORE INSPECTION THAN WHAT THEY REALLY SHOULD ON THE BUILDING CODES AND STUFF, BUT ON THE FIRE CODE AND A CERTIFIED IN SPECTRUM FOR THE STATE FIRE COMMISSION, THAT TO BE A CERTIFIED FIRE CODE INSPECTOR, AND THEY HAVE TO BE A FIREFIGHTER FOR AT LEAST LIKE FIVE YEARS BEFORE THEY CAN EVEN TAKE THE TEST TO BE IN THE SPECTRUM, THE CLASSES.
SO AS IT'S NOT LIKE YOU CAN TAKE ALL OF IT AWAY, SEPTIC TANK GUY DECIDED WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU A BUILDING CLASS OR A PHYCO CLASS.
THE FIRE, THE FIRE CODE STUFF IS SEPARATE.
AND THERE'S CERTAIN PARAMETERS FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET.
IT'S NOT LIKE YOU CAN HIRE AN INSPECTOR.
SO KIND OF THE WASTE OF THAT SKILL TO HAVE THEM OUT INSPECTING OF ANYBODY IS THEY'RE THE ONES THAT KNOW THE FIRE CODE AND YOU DON'T WANT IT.
YOU DON'T WANT TO DO ALL THE OTHER STUFF, RIGHT.
IT'S NOT ACTUALLY, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT BACK WHENEVER IT STARTED AND THE GROWTH STARTED THAT IT'S KIND OF LIKE, HEY, WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY TO DO THIS.
CAN YOU DO IT FOR US? IT'S GOT STUCK.
THERE WE'RE REALLY, THAT TYPE STUFF SHOULD BE IN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TO DO THIS STUFF.
AND THAT IT'LL BE STRICTLY FIRE CODE BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I THAT'S.
SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A TOTAL BETWEEN THOSE TWO DEPARTMENTS.
WE HAVE 18 TOTAL STAFF THEY'RE ASKING FOR 23.
SO THEY'RE ASKING THOSE BETWEEN THOSE TWO DEPARTMENTS ARE ASKING FOR A TOTAL OF FIVE MORE.
AND SO BY COMBINING SOME OF THESE, THESE FUNCTIONS TOGETHER, I THINK INSTEAD OF, INSTEAD OF GOING UP $300,000 A YEAR IN SALARIES, I THINK WE ONLY NEED TO GO UP A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR IN SALARIES, AND WE CAN ACCOMPLISH EVERYTHING THAT THOSE DEPARTMENTS NEED TO ACCOMPLISH IN A MUCH MORE EFFICIENT WAY BY COMBINING, ESPECIALLY THERE'S A LOT OF ADMINISTRATIVE THINGS THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN INSTEAD OF HAVING THESE ADMINISTRATIVE TASKS THAT ARE VERY SIMILAR IN THESE THAT ARE VERY SIMILAR, LET'S COMBINE THEM ASPIRE AND COMBINE THESE THINGS TOGETHER AND HAVE A, HAVE A, HAVE AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO RUN PUBLIC WORKS AND THEN FUNNEL IT DOWN FROM THERE.
THAT THAT'S THE PROPOSAL THAT I PUT TOGETHER.
I'VE SPOKEN WITH BOTH OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND THAT DEPARTMENT, THEY ARE, THEY'RE A THUMBS UP ON THIS PROPOSAL TO MOVE FORWARD.
SO I'D LIKE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING THUMBS UP, THEN I SEE THAT THAT THAT'S A STEP FORWARD OFF OF THAT 200 VETS, TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IT'S A SUSTAINABLE 300 SUSTAINABLE 200 AND PLUS THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR THAT WE WOULD SAVE.
AND WE WOULD GET, I THINK, A MORE EFFICIENT APARTMENT IN THE BIG CLAIM THAT, AND THE SHERIFF THAT'S 500,000.
SO THAT'S ON THIS LIST, THESE POSITIONS, WHAT DOES DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND THE MONEY THAT THEY GENERATE, THE FUNDS THEY GENERATE? DOES IT PAY FOR THE SALARIES AND BENEFITS AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, SAME AS THE FIRE MARSHALL, DO THEY FACE, THEY GENERATE, YOU PAY FOR AN APARTMENT AND PAY FOR ALL THAT? NO, SHE GENERATES IT.
SHE DOESN'T GENERATE THE ENTIRE COST OF HER, OF HER DEPARTMENT, BUT PRETTY CLOSE SHE'S UP.
WELL, I COULD SAY THE WAY WE'RE GROWING ABOUT 40%, I BUMPED HER NUMBERS UP CONSIDERABLY.
I DON'T THINK SHE'S ERASED THE ENTIRE AMOUNT OF HER COSTS, BUT SHE'S PRETTY CLOSE.
SHE'S ONE OF THE FIRE CODE FUND AND THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FUNDS ARE TWO OF THE FASTEST GROWING GENERATORS THAT WE HAVE NOW.
A FIRE CODE FUND IS NOT PART OF GENERAL FUNDS.
THE MONIES THAT, THAT MONIQUE'S DEPARTMENT GENERATES ARE PART OF GENERAL FUND.
THEY GO RIGHT BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND, BUT THE FIRE CODE, CAN WE USE FOR SALARIES AND BENEFITS OR IS IT JUST, IT HAS, IT HAS SOME, IT HAS SOME, SOME BOOKENDS.
I DON'T KNOW ALL THOSE BOOKENDS, BUT IT CAN BE, YOU CAN BUY EQUIPMENT, YOU CAN PAY SUPPLEMENTAL PAY, YOU CAN DO SOME THINGS WITH THE FIRED CO-FUND.
I DON'T HAVE ALL THOSE THINGS.
IF YOU USE THAT FOR FUNDING IS BUILDING STOPS.
WE GO BACK TO THE LATE EIGHTIES.
IT MAY NOT BE A SUSTAINABLE, MAY NOT BE A SUSTAINABLE MODEL IF IT FELL APART.
BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M ASKING THE COURT TO DO, IS TO DO, IS TO THIS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS.
IT'S ALL UNDER ONE ROOF FROM EVERYTHING'S 23 TO 20 FROM REQUESTED 23.
WE MIGHT, WE MIGHT COULD DO IT WITH 19.
I'LL GO BACK AND TALK TO THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AGAIN, TO START ABOUT JANUARY, START, STATE START DATES FOR ANY OF THOSE PISSED OFF IN JANUARY.
THE TWO NEW ONES, THE TENDER ONES AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
I'LL I'LL REDO THE MATH AND GET THAT BACK TO US, WHICH I LIKE A GOOD IDEA.
FACILITIES FACILITIES IS ASKING FOR, UM, JANITORS, UH, AND THEN ONE TECH.
I DID PRORATE THESE AS YOU SEE SOMEONE ONE WAS IN AND OUT.
A LOT OF THIS WAS BEFORE WE TALKED TO THIS IS REALLY
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ABOUT THE NEW BUILDINGS THAT ARE COMING ONLINE IS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT SINCE THEN.UH, THERE'S BEEN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE PURCHASING AGENT ABOUT POTENTIALLY OUTSOURCING SOME OF THE NEW BUILDING WORK.
AND SO THAT WOULD BE MUTE IF WE HAD NEW BUILDING OUTSOURCED TO ANY, TO A JANITORIAL SERVICE THAN THIS, THIS WOULD NOT BE THE SAME CASE.
AND SO I'M GOING TO, I'M GOING TO PAUSE ON THE, ON THE JANITOR POSITIONS HERE, THE TECH POSITION IS A NEW POSITION.
AGAIN, AS WE PUT ON NEW BUILDINGS, YOUR, YOUR LABILE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A NEW, NEW HELP, YOU KNOW, AS YOU BUILD THAT MUCH MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE.
AND AGAIN, I COULD CHANGE THE START DATE ON, ON THESE AS WELL.
WE NEEDED TO, BASICALLY, SINCE THE NEW BUILDINGS AREN'T GOING TO BE HERE, THEY WILL, WILL, WILL BE HERE AT THE, TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR, RIGHT.
YOU HAVE A PROJECTION ON WHAT THE ACTUAL, YOU KNOW, A NEW, YOU KNOW, THE NEW BUILDING, THE PLANT OPERATION OF A NEW BUILDING WILL REQUIRE.
I MEAN, WON'T THAT BASICALLY TAKE ONE OR TWO GUYS ALMOST FULL-TIME FOR, WELL, YOU'LL HAVE, YOU'LL HAVE, YOU'LL HAVE WARRANTY WORK FOR, FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.
WE KNOW YOUR LARGE, YOUR LARGE MECHANICAL AND THOSE THINGS.
AND WE TYPICALLY OUTSOURCE THOSE THINGS ANYWAY, BUT IT'S ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT, THAT, THAT TEAM TYPICALLY DOES.
SO MOVING FURNITURE ON CLOGGING A TOILET, FIXING A WATER LEAK, DIRECT AND CHANGING LIGHT BULBS DIRECT AND DOING THOSE THAT, THAT KIND OF WORK, IT'S IT, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT THE SAME AMOUNT OF BODIES, BUT NOW YOU'RE IN ANOTHER WHOLE BUILDING TO HAVE TO GO INTO, I THINK WE HAD THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE NEW JUSTICE CENTER.
LIKE KEN'S ALLUDING TO, WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING SOMEONE THERE JUST GO IN STAFFING TO HAVE SOMEONE THERE EVERY DAY, PRETTY MUCH DOING THE COURTHOUSE.
NOW WE HAVE A JANITOR, WE HAVE SOMEBODY THERE FULL TIME THERE'S CONTRACT.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY AN EMPLOYEE.
YOU COULD, AND YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY'RE, WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
SO IF YOU HAVE, IF YOU HAVE OUTSOURCE JANITORIAL SERVICES THAT ARE DOING THINGS THAT ARE ON THE HEAVIER SIDE, THEN REALLY IT'S A PORTER MORE, MORE FUNCTION DURING THE, DURING THE DAYTIME.
SO IT'S, IT'S LIKE CLEANING TRASH SERVICE, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
SO YOU'RE NOT SWEEPING AND MOPPING THE ENTIRE BUILDING AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S, THAT'S THE GOAL, RIGHT? AND AS FAR AS IN THE BUDGET, YOU'D PUT JANITORIAL SERVICE FOR THE NEW JUSTICE CENTER AND THE PET ADOPTION CENTER IS 60,000 A YEAR.
IF YOU'RE, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, I THINK I PUT ANYTHING IN FOR THE GENERAL, GENERAL GOVERNMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN RAILING.
OKAY, WELL, ANYWAY, IT'S 60,000 NORTH.
THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, I GUESS, A BID OR, YOU KNOW, AN ESTIMATE OR GUESSTIMATE FOR THAT.
BUT ALSO IT SAID THAT FOR THE ANIMAL PET ADOPTION CENTER, AND THAT LADY TOLD US THAT YOU NEVER REPAIR THE BUILDING, THE PHYSICAL PLANT AND THE UTILITIES IS ALL WE HAD TO PAY WITH THIS CONTRACT, BUT IT'S ON THE JANITORIAL SERVICE LIST IN THAT, IN THE BUDGET.
WOULD HAVE BEEN PART OF THE BID PROCESS.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S PART OF THAT WAS WITH RAYLAND ON THE BID SIDE OF IT.
SO, I MEAN, DON'T HAVE A LINE, I DON'T HAVE A LINE ITEM FOR IT.
IT WAS ONE OF THOSE GENERAL GOVERNMENT OR GOVERNMENT OR SOMETHING.
WELL, I GUESS THE ASK ON FACILITIES IS, IS, DO WE NEED MORE STAFF OR DO WE NOT NEED MORE STAFF? UH, CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO NEED MORE STAFF UNTIL VERY LATE IN THE GAME.
OH, ONE, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE DO HAVE, AND I KNOW WHEN I, WHEN I FIRST MOVED INTO THIS NEW ROLE, I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH A COUPLE OF COMMISSIONERS HERE ABOUT THAT.
WHEN WE, WHEN WE HAD THE OUTSOURCE JANITORIAL THAT WAS HELPING US, UM, IT SET KIND OF A NEW PRESIDENTS, IF YOU WILL.
AND THEN WHEN THAT WENT AWAY, IT WAS A BIT OF A CHALLENGE TO TRY TO COVER THAT GAP.
WHAT HAPPENS NOW IS WHEN YOU HAVE VACATIONS, YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH BODIES TO SPREAD OUT, TO GET ALL THE SERVICES THAT YOU NEED, RIGHT? SO WHEN SOMEBODY GOES ON VACATION, YOU REALLY GET A DIP IN SERVICE, OR YOU PULL SOMEBODY FROM ANOTHER SERVICE TO DO IT.
SO THE ONE THING THAT DID IT AT A MINIMUM WOULD BE HELPFUL HERE IS TO GET OUR PART, TO GET OUR, GET OUR EXTRA HELP MONEY BACK INTO THE BUDGET.
SO WE CAN AT LEAST COVER THAT CHUNK OF IT.
I HAD, I'D HAD TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE AUDITOR THIS YEAR TO TRY TO PULL UP A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY, TO TRY TO COVER SOME VACATIONS.
BUT IF WE CAN'T GET POSITIONS, WE NEED SOMETHING AS A PLACEHOLDER TO AT LEAST TRY TO HELP US COVER UP A PIECE OF EXTRA MONEY.
I THINK WE USED TO HAVE 20,000 AND EXTRA HELP, AND WE WOULD USE THAT TO COVER VACATIONS AND WE TOOK THAT OUT.
AND SO IF WE CAN AT LEAST GET THAT BACK, AT LEAST IT'S SOMETHING UNTIL WE, MAYBE WE KNOW MORE WHEN WE GET THE NEW BUILDING.
JUST ASK HIM BECAUSE IT'S SO CLOSE TO FULL TIME.
IT IS, IT IS PRETTY BIG AND THEY HAD ONE PERSON COME OUT ABOUT THE SAME.
I WANNA, I DON'T WANNA BELABOR IT.
I MEAN, SO WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ON FACILITIES? ARE WE GOING TO LEAVE THOSE POSITIONS AS REQUESTED? TRY THAT ADD ONE JANITOR.
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I DON'T KIND OF AGREE ON THAT.CAUSE I KNOW THAT, UH, TWO OR THREE TIMES I HAD THE MAINTENANCE GUYS EXCELLENT.
I DIDN'T HAVE A MAIN AND UH, OUR MAIN VENDOR OR DO WE NEED TO ADD A TECH BEAT BEING THAT THAT BUILDING IS NOT GOING TO BE UP REALLY WELL.
JUST ONE JANITOR, EVERYBODY GOOD ON THAT ONE, JANITOR, IT'D BE BETTER THAN
AND ALSO ALSO WOULD DO BELIEVE THAT AS WE MOVE INTO THESE NEW BUILDINGS, WE, THE COURT NAKED, IT'S VERY POSSIBLE THAT OUTSOURCING MIGHT BE THE WAY TO GO WITH SOME OF THESE NEWER BUILDINGS ON SOME OF THESE THINGS, BE MY QUESTION.
NUMBER ONE, PRESUMPTIVELY, SOME OF OUR MAINTENANCE SHOULD BE LESS THAN BECAUSE WE'RE NOT MAINTAINING A BUNCH OF OLD.
AND, AND SINCE, SINCE OUR FACILITIES ARE GOING TO BE CONCENTRATED, INSTEAD OF PEOPLE HAVING TO GO HERE AND HERE AND HERE AND HERE TO WHATEVER, WE HAVE 16 DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, A LOT OF THEM WILL BE FOCUSED IN ONE BUILDING.
I MEAN, W WE MIGHT VERY WELL DO BETTER TO HAVE A CONTRACT SERVICE BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE A LOT OF JANITORIAL SERVICE THAT GOES ON DURING THE DAY, DURING THE BUSINESS DAY.
WHEREAS, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT BE MORE EFFICIENT TO HAVE, UH, A SERVICE THAT COMES IN, YOU KNOW, AT SIX.
I THINK YOU'RE STILL GONNA HAVE TO HAVE PORTERS BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SPILLS.
YOU'RE GONNA TOO MUCH PUBLIC TO NOT HAVE SOMEBODY ON STAFF.
I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT PURE, UH, YOU KNOW, ROUTINE AND RECURRING FLOORS, WALLS WINDOWS.
WELL, AND THAT'S PROBABLY CLOSER TO BEING NEXT YEAR BECAUSE IT'S CLOSER TO BEING RIGHT.
UM, I'M GONNA RUN DOWN THE LIST.
UH, WHAT, WHAT BEING ASKED FOR HERE IS, YOU KNOW, WE MOVE, WE TRANSFERRED A PERSON OUT OF ONE DEPARTMENT INTO ANOTHER DEPARTMENT THERE AND KEPT THEM PRETTY MUCH AT THE SAME THING.
JUST MOVED THEM FROM ONE DEPARTMENT TO ANOTHER.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE ACTUAL WORK THAT'S HAPPENING IN INDIGENT HEALTHCARE, UH, THAT NUMBER TWO PERSON REALLY ISN'T ASSISTANT COORDINATOR FOR THAT, FOR THAT DEPARTMENT.
AND SO THE ASK IS THAT THEY'LL ADJUST THAT PAY JUST A SMALL INCREASE, SASHA PORT, THAT IT, TO THAT INDIVIDUAL TO MOVE THEM TO A, TO A D TO A LITTLE HIGHER LEVEL.
SO WE'VE ALREADY ADDRESSED SUPPORT THAT.
OR THE NEXT FLOOR WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE ONE AT THE VERY BOTTOM, THE LAST ONE THERE, AS YOU HEARD, YOU HEARD JUDGE ADAMS, JESSE, TALK ABOUT AN EMPLOYEE THAT HE THOUGHT HE MIGHT BE LOSING.
I ASKED THAT QUESTION YESTERDAY.
I DON'T KNOW THE OUTCOME OF THAT.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE ASS TO KEEP THAT EMPLOYEE.
SHE, THAT, THAT WAS, THAT WAS ABSOLUTELY DOWN THERE AT THE MILKEN.
LIKE, WELL, THERE, SHE, SHE WAS BEING RECRUITED, BUT AS OF TODAY, SHE WAS STILL THERE, BUT IT'S STILL A LITTLE FUZZY IF SHE, THEY HAVE THAT FUNDED NOW, RIGHT.
THEY DON'T HAVE THIS PART FUNDED.
THEY HAVE THE BASE FUNDED, THIS IS A BUMP.
THIS IS A, THIS IS A INCREASE, CORRECT.
LET ME, LET ME ASK SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.
SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT JPS RIGHT HERE ON THEIR, ON THEIR WORKSHEETS, AND I GUESS YOU COULD GO TO THEIR PAGE OR WHATEVER, BUT I KNOW LIKE THEY HIRED ONE IN PRECINCT TWO THAT HAS FIVE YEARS EXPERIENCE, WHATEVER.
AND THEN THEY HAD ANOTHER ONE THAT HAD EXPERIENCE, BUT THEY ALL STARTED OUT AT THE BANKS PAY.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE SET UP THE POSITION ALL SET UP TO START AT THE BASE PAINT.
BUT YET WE HAVE MORE QUALIFIED PEOPLE WORKING IN ANOTHER OFFICE THEN IN A DIFFERENT OFFICE.
YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? SO IS THERE SOME WAY THAT WE SHOULD LEVEL SOME OF THAT? WELL, PART OF, PART OF THE EVERGREEN IS, IS THAT AS WELL, THEY HAVE A WHOLE SECTION ON, ON RECOMMENDED TITLE CHANGES.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, AS THOSE TITLE CHANGES, THE, UH, I'LL GO BACK AND DO THE CROSS ANALYSIS OF WHAT DOES, HOW DOES THAT AFFECT IN PAY? BUT THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF THIS PROCESS, BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO WAY TO TACKLE IT ALL IN, IN ONE SLICE, BUT YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
SO THEY HAD ONE CLERK TO CLERK THREE, UM, AND THEN POSITIONS IN RANGES WITHIN THOSE POSITIONS.
AND SO IT'S VERY POSSIBLE AS PART OF THE FOLLOW-UP TO THIS IS DO SOME OF THESE OTHERS NEED TO BE MOVED FURTHER ALONG, MIGHT BE PART OF THE 300,000 VERY MUCH.
SO, UH, I JUST WANT TO BRING THAT UP BECAUSE I KNOW THAT I KNOW THERE'S BEEN KIND OF A DISSERVICE TO OUR COMPANY.
I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S DESIRABLE ACROSS THE BOARD IN EVERY, IN EVERY OFFICE WHERE WE HAVE THESE, THE SAME TYPE OF POSITION, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, SAME THING HAPPENS IN ROAD AND BRIDGE.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU HIRE A MOTOR GRADER OPERATOR AND PAINT MIX, BUT I GOT A GUY THAT'S BEEN ON THE COUNTY FOR 12
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YEARS AND I'M PAYING HIM LESS WELL, BUT CREATES DISSENSION.BUT, BUT THAT'S WHAT THE LONGEVITY IS ALSO FAR OFFSET.
THE LONGEVITY OF YOU BEING AN EMPLOYEE HERE.
BUT IT DOESN'T, IT DON'T COVER THE GAP.
YOU HAVE TO LET IT COST THE HIGHER UP
BUT THEN THEY GO TO, YEAH, DOESN'T HA DOESN'T COVER THE RECRUITING GRAPH.
ONCE YOU GET ONBOARDED AND YOU STAY A WHILE, IT DEFINITELY DOES.
LET'S DON'T GET TOO BOGGED DOWN.
SO, SO CLAUDIA, YES OR NO, THIS POSITION HERE IS THAT, IS IT A SIDE SUPPORT THAT, ALL RIGHT.
THEY HAD ONE MORE, WHICH WAS THAT THEY TALKED ABOUT A FLOATING CLERK TO WORK AMONG ALL FOUR OF THEM.
I THINK THAT WHAT I HEARD YESTERDAY WAS I DIDN'T SEE THAT AS A, I DON'T THINK THAT'S DOABLE.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S A WORKABLE SOLUTION IN ANY OFFICE.
I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK IT IS EITHER.
I APPRECIATE WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO THERE, BUT I JUST DON'T THINK IT'LL WORK.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO.
YOU DON'T THINK IT'LL WORK EITHER THOUGH.
YEAH, NO, I, I, AND, AND, AND I'M SORRY,
I MEAN, ULTIMATELY THAT THAT FUNCTION NEEDS TO ACCELERATE ITS MOVE TO ELECTRONIC RECORDS AND THAT WOULD SOLVE A LOT OF THAT GAIN IN EFFICIENCY, BUT OKAY THEN, AND THAT, UH, CHARITIES AND FOR RELIEF DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE 30,000 BUDGETED FOR ASSOCIATE JUDGES WITH EVER TALKING ABOUT WHEN THEY ASKED FOR THEIR EYES.
IT ALSO HAS THE SOCIAL SECURITY AND RETIREMENT THAT WE CAN TAKE OUT OF THERE.
SO THERE'S PROBABLY RIGHT AT ALMOST 35,000 LITTLE BIT MORE.
IT AIN'T MUCH, BUT IT'LL HELP.
UM, THE NEXT, THE NEXT TWO ARE PRETRIAL.
THIS IS, THIS IS JOHNNY WHITE'S DIVISION.
UM, HE'S ANOTHER ONE OF THESE DEPARTMENTS THAT IS JUST EXPONENTIALLY GROWING.
UH, HIS REVENUE IS UP ALMOST DOUBLE ALREADY AND WE PROJECTED TO BE THREEFOLD SOON.
SO HE'S WHAT HE'S WANTING TO DO IS BRING ON ANOTHER CLARK AND THEN PROMOTE ONE OF THE PEOPLE HE HAS UP TO THE OTHER POSITIONS THAT JUST DO SOME MORE, MORE CLIENT INTERACTIONS.
WE CAN PUNT THAT TO JANUARY PUNT, THE CLERK TO THAT POSITION.
SO IT'S THE ONE YOU SEE IS JUST THE NET INCOME CHANGE.
THE OTHER ONE IS THE COMPLETE POSITION.
THE DA WAS PAYING FOR HALF OF THE POSITION AND ALL THE SUPPLIES SHE LET ME KNOW, SHE'S NOT PAYING THAT NEXT YEAR.
SO WE HAVE TO PICK ALL THAT UP.
SO THAT, THAT MASS NOT IN HERE.
SO I'LL NEED TO FIX THAT MATH.
SO CAN WE PUMP THAT NEW CLERK POSITION TO JANUARY LIKE WE'RE DOING WITH THE OTHERS OR DID IT SAY AS FUN GO, THEN IT GO INTO GENERAL CELL PHONE THAT, OKAY.
I, UH, THAT'S WHAT I'M PUTTING IN.
I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYBODY COMPLAIN ABOUT PUTTING THAT TO JANUARY, JANUARY.
UH, THE NEXT TWO ARE UPSTAIRS AND ACROSS THE STREET.
IT'S ALREADY ON THE BOOKS AS PEOPLE GET THAT CERTIFICATION, YOU PAY IT.
SO THAT'S, I'M JUST PUTTING IT IN THERE AS PART OF THE MATH.
THE SECOND ONE IS HE HAS A PART-TIME POSITION NOW THAT HE WANTS TO MAKE TIME.
AND THAT'S THE NET HERE'S WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THAT COURT IS HE CAN'T KEEP PART-TIME PEOPLE.
SO HE GETS A MAN GET SOME TRAINING.
HE LOSES THEM, THEY GO TAKE FULL-TIME JOBS.
SO WE'VE GOT THIS, HE'S AT THIS ROTATING DOOR OF PART-TIME PEOPLE.
YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A FULL-TIME POSITION VERSUS THE PART-TIME POSITION.
I THINK WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO GIVE UP ON THIS PART-TIME POSITION AND STUFF.
WE'RE DOING WORK AND NOT WORK OR WORK.
ALL RIGHT, I'M GOING TO, I'M GOING TO PUT A YES THERE.
THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY THE COURT.
I'M JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY WHO'S THERE YET, BUT THAT'S WHAT THAT WOULD COST.
AND THAT'S JUST CERTIFICATION PAY.
WE'VE ALREADY GOT THE APPROVAL.
I DON'T SEE IT AS NEEDING A THUMBS UP, UH, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT JUDGE.
YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT ONE? UM, THE TIFFANY, THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT THING IS NOT THAT'S, THAT'S GOING FROM PART-TIME TO FULL-TIME AND I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S JUSTIFIABLE.
UM, THAT WAS WORKING ON AN EMAIL TODAY TO ADDRESS THE SPIRIT SITUATION.
LET'S YOU CAN SEND A RECOMMENDATION BY EMAIL, RIGHT? YEAH.
BUT, BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, JUST FOR RIGHT NOW, LET'S LET'S DO THE, AND THE CHIEF DEPUTY THING IS, UH, THAT THAT'S A NO, NON-STARTER THE TITLE ISN'T BUT FOR ME, BUT, UH, LET'S, LET'S DO A JANUARY THING ON THAT ALSO.
AND THEN I'LL HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU GUYS WITH MORE EXPLANATION WHEN I GET MY, AFTER I HAVE MORE CONVERSATIONS.
SO JANUARY ON THAT, I WORK ON THE ADMIN OR ON THE, ON THE, ON THE ADDITION THAT'S ON, THAT'S ON THE LINE TOO.
THAT'S THAT THING DOWN HERE IS CHIEF DEPUTY.
UH, COUNTY TREASURER'S OFFICE.
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IS ASKING FOR A PART-TIME CLERK TO COME IN AND HE HAS AN EMPLOYEE THAT'S GOING TO BE RETIRING.AND HE WOULD LIKE TO GET SOME RAMP UP SPEED BEFORE THAT INDIVIDUAL RETIRES AND BRING THEM ON PART-TIME.
UH, AND THEN WHEN THAT OTHER PERSON RETIRES, THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD SLIDE INTO THAT ROOM.
WHAT'S THE START DATE ON THAT JOB? UM, I HAVE IT AS TEN ONE, BUT CAN THAT BE DONE JUST BY AN EXTRA HELP LINE ITEM? IT COULD BE AS OPPOSED TO A NEW POSITION, BECAUSE IS THE, IS THE EXPECTATION THAT THE PART-TIME WE'LL TRAIN AND THEN WHEN THE RETIREMENT HAPPENS, THEY'LL TAKE THE VACANCY.
I BELIEVE THAT TO BE THE CASE, I'LL NEED TO MAKE SURE.
AND HE USED TO HAVE A PART-TIME PERSON THAT WENT AWAY.
I KNOW, BUT I'LL NEED TO CLARIFY THAT WITH THE, WITH THE TREASURER.
SO WHAT ARE WE GOING TO LEAVE IT WITH NOW? LIKE IT IS, I WOULD JUST SUGGEST THAT YOU JUST CREATE A EXTRA HELP, PAY, EXTRA HELP LINE ITEM FOR HIM.
AND THEN, AND THEN IF SUBSEQUENTLY HE NEEDS TO CONTINUE WITH A PART-TIME CLERK, THEN HE COULD COME BACK.
UM, KIND OF COURT LAW, ONE ASKING FOR AN ASSISTANT COORDINATOR POSITION.
THIS IS A NEW POSITION TO THAT COURT.
WHY? FOR THE CASE LOADS, JUST FOR THE WORKLOAD, EVEN I CAN PULL IT UP ON MY SCREEN AND YOU CAN READ, I THINK, I THINK I CAN, I THINK THERE'S SOME VERBIAGE HERE.
I'LL HADN'T, HADN'T BEEN DOING THAT.
SO, SO YOU CAN READ, CAN YOU ALL SEE THE SAME SCREEN I'M SEEING? YES.
YOU SCROLL IT UP A LITTLE BIT.
IF NOTHING ELSE, JUST FOR PUBLIC EDIFICATION, IT'D BE VALID TO MAKE THIS POINT.
WHILE WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER WITH THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, THAT IT'D BE IN THE PERFECT WORLD.
WE'D LIKE TO SEE REALLY A REDUCTION OF STAFF BECAUSE OF IN PROVED EFFICIENCY OVER THE YEARS THROUGH EXPERIENCE GAIN, AND THE APPLICATION OF THAT TECHNOLOGY.
THE, THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT COIN IS AS NEW REQUIREMENTS AS A NEW, UH, AS A NEW EXPECTATION IS ADDED, THEN THAT, THAT EXPERIENCE GAIN THAT EFFICIENCY GAIN MIGHT NOT COVER THAT.
SO IF YOU, YOU KNOW, IN THE BUSINESS WORLD, IF YOU ADD A NEW PRODUCT LINE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER MANUFACTURING FACILITY AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE STAFF FOR THE NEW PRODUCT.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE IN, UH, IN, IN MANY OF THESE THINGS IN, IN TRACY'S ASK.
AND, UH, IN JOHNNY'S ASK IS THAT AS THE COUNTY GROWS, AS THE POPULATION GROWS, THERE'S MORE PEOPLE IN THESE SYSTEMS. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A, THERE'S A BREAKING POINT WHERE YOUR EFFICIENCY JUST, YOU KNOW, AN IMPROVED EFFICIENCY CAN'T KEEP UP.
AND WHEN YOU HAVE, WHEN YOU HAVE TO PUT OUT MORE WORK, YOU GOTTA SPEND MORE MONEY TO COVER IT.
AND, AND I THINK THAT GOES TO THE 5%, YOU KNOW, IS OUR, IS, IS THE COUNTY, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW YOU COULD DO THE PERCENTAGE HERE, BUT IS, IS HER WORKLOAD UP 5%? YOU KNOW, MAYBE IS IT UP 7%? IT SAYS, YOU KNOW, SHE SAYS, IT'S UP 59%.
SO IT'S A 60%, THAT'S 10% OF THE YEAR, 10% A YEAR.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT THEY, YOU KNOW, THAT ARTIFICIAL EXPECTATION THAT WE'RE, WE'RE ONLY GONNA SPEND THIS LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY THAT, I MEAN, THE CIRCUMSTANCES CHANGED, THE POPULATION IS GROWING.
I MEAN, I'M SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A SUPPORTABLE NUMBER THAT SHE'S, THAT HER WORKLOAD GOES UP 10% A YEAR.
I'M SURE JOHNNY'S WORKLOAD GOES UP, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR AMOUNTS.
SO AT SOME POINT I THINK COUNTY, GOVERNMENT, AND I'M LOOK, I DON'T WANT TO RAISE TAXES.
I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO PAY MORE EITHER.
I, NO ONE DOES, BUT AT SOME POINT, IF YOU HAVE TO DO MORE, YOU HAVE TO SPEND MORE.
UM, WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK ABOUT THAT A JANUARY? LIKE WE'RE DOING ALL THE OTHERS.
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THEY DO THAT ACROSS THE BOARD.WELL, WE DON'T IT ON MOST OF THEM.
AND THAT DOES GIVE US, IT DOES HELP US GET THAT 2.5 MILLION DOWN.
SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS LEAVE IT IN THERE AND MAKE IT A JANUARY START.
THE NEXT TWO, I'M JUST, THESE ARE JUST FYI AS THEY'RE THERE, THEY'RE GOING TO GET THAT CERTIFICATION.
SO THAT PAY IS GOING TO COME IN THERE.
THEIR PARALEGAL CERTIFICATIONS.
AND WE'VE ALREADY GOT THAT APPROVED IN THE COURT.
SO WHEN THEY GET HOME AND YOU SAID, THEY'RE GOING TO GET IT AS WELL.
THEY, THEY HAVEN'T, THEY, I THINK THEY HAVE TO GET THEM VERSE THEY'RE ON, ARE THEY, ARE THEY JUST TURNING BRANDY WOULD KNOW SHE GETS A CERTIFICATE.
SO SHE WOULD KNOW WHERE THEY'RE ALREADY ON THE PAYROLL OR NOT.
SHE, SHE UPDATES THEM AS WE GET THEM THROUGH.
SOME OF THEM WERE BUDGETED FOR THIS 20, 21 IN EXPECTATION OF GETTING IT IN
SO THEY STARTED THEM OUT LOWER AND THE ANTICIPATION OF THAT, AND THEY HAVE BUMPED THEM UP.
UM, I BELIEVE THERE'S ONLY ONE THAT CURRENTLY HAS HER CERTIFICATION, BUT IT WAS NOT BUDGETED IN 2021.
SO SHE'S WAITING FOR 20, 22 TO GET THAT BUMP.
THERE'S NO DECISION TO BE MADE THERE.
ACTUALLY YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE THE CERTIFICATE.
HAS, HAVE TO PROVIDE IS DIFFICULT.
I'VE SEEN THE COPIES OF THE CERTIFICATES.
SO THIS, CAN YOU SEE ALL OF THIS? SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE ATTORNEYS.
I'LL JUST LET YOU READ THROUGH IT.
I'VE GOT, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO SCROLL JUST A LITTLE BIT.
I WOULD THROW DOWN THE EVERGREEN STUDY AND I CAN'T ADDRESS THE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LAWYER'S SALARIES WERE IN THE EVERGREEN STUDY, BUT NENE, YOU KNOW, UM, I DO, UH, I'LL GO BACK AND CROSS REFERENCE THEM.
SO THEY WEREN'T AT THAT, AT THAT, AT THAT SNAPSHOT IN TIME, THEY WEREN'T PART OF PHASE ONE, BUT IF YOU MOVE IT FORWARD, THEY WERE CERTAINLY THAT ROOM WAS IN THERE.
WELL, I MEAN, LET'S, LET'S TRY TO BE CONSISTENT.
IF THAT'S WHAT WE'RE USING AS OUR GUIDELINE ON INCREASES, LET'S TRY TO MAKE SURE I NEED TO GO BACK AND, AND, AND, AND DO THE SAME KIND OF MATH THAT I DID BEFORE AND PUTTING SOME MATH TO IT, TO MAKE SURE IT'S CONSISTENT FOR ALL OF THEM.
SO WE'RE GOING TO SKIP THAT TO THOSE TWO ITEMS FOR NOW.
CAUSE HE PUT IT IN THERE AND SHE, IT WAS TO THE SALARY.
I MEAN, DO THEY EVER GET ANY RESULTS? I WOULD SAY THE SAME THING FOR THE, UH, THE OTHER TWO ITEMS. I THINK WE, WE HAVE TO FIT THAT IN.
I MEAN, ANY, THE INCREASES NEED TO BE FIT INTO THE WINNING LEAST.
LOOK AT THE AVERAGE STUDY AND SEE WHERE THEY ARE AS FAR AS THE MIDPOINT GOES.
SO THAT'S, THAT TAKES CARE OF THOSE.
THE PROVISIONS TO PAY IS, IS PROFICIENCY PAYS.
AND THEN HERE'S THE NEW POSITIONS ON THE VERY BOTTOM.
DIDN'T SAY MUCH GOOD ABOUT WHAT, WHEREAS THE SOCIETY DOES NOT SAY MUCH.
IT SAYS SOMETHING, BUT IT'S NOT GOOD.
UM, THIS IS QUESTION AGAIN, BUT SHOULD WE GO TO THE JANUARY ON THAT TOO? AND THAT'LL GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF RELIEF TO BE CONSISTENT.
I DON'T THINK WE JUST NEED TO DO THAT ANYWAY ON EVERYTHING.
BUT I JUST WONDER HOW MUCH MONEY WE NEED TO BE THROWING AT SALARIES AND MAYBE MORE IN PREVENTION OF ALL THIS STUFF KEEPS COMING IN THE COURTS.
I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE A LITTLE MORE MONEY ON THE OTHER END OVER HERE.
SO TAX COLLECTOR, IT'S ASKING FOR TWO NEW CLERKS IN THE TAX OFFICES.
SORRY, THIS IS, THIS IS NOT AS USER-FRIENDLY.
WHERE ARE THEY AT? THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.
YEAH, BUT THE TAX COLLECTOR POSITION WHERE, WHERE, WHERE I'M GONNA OPEN IT UP AND SEE WHAT I'VE GOT.
I'M SORRY, THIS ISN'T AS USER-FRIENDLY
I NEED TO SEE NUMBERS ON THAT.
SO YOU NEED ME TO GO BACK AND GET SOME QUANTIFICATION.
ALL THE WINDOWS ARE FULL AREN'T.
I MEAN, THERE'S SOMEBODY IN EVERY POSITION.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WON'T SAY WHO SAID THIS, BUT ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THIS COMMISSIONER'S COURT MADE THE POINT THAT, UM,
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YOU KNOW, THAT THE TAX OFFICE IS, IS A SURGE THING.YOU KNOW, OF COURSE I GO THROUGH THERE MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY AND SOMETIMES THERE'S NOBODY IN THERE.
AND THEN SOME DAYS, SOME DAYS OF THE MONTH, THERE WAS A, THERE WAS A TON OF PEOPLE STACKED UP IN LINE.
AND WHOEVER THIS UNKNOWN COMMISSIONER SAID, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IF PEOPLE HAVE TO STAY IN THE LINE THAT LIKE IN A SITUATION LIKE THAT, MAYBE THAT THEY'LL, THEY CAN, UH, JUST HER SCHEDULES INSTEAD OF GOING ON THE 31ST AND GET THEIR LICENSE PLATE, THEY MIGHT DO IT EARLIER.
YOU'RE FIGHTING HUMAN BEHAVIOR THERE.
SO ANYWAY, I THINK WE NEED NUMBERS FOR THAT MYSELF AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PLAN WOULD BE FOR POSITIONS.
AND DO YOU KNOW IF THESE ARE FOR COFFMAN OR ARE THEY FOR SOMEWHERE ELSE? I ONLY HAVE.
LET'S ASK FOR SOME NUMBERS ON THAT.
THE NEXT, WHEN THAT INDIVIDUAL IS SITTING IN ROOM WITH US.
THE SHERIFF'S ALREADY PRESENTED HIS IS TO THE COURT.
UM, I THINK I HAVE THAT NUMBER, CORRECT? SHERIFF.
RIGHT? I GOT A 3 56, 7 51, I BELIEVE WAS THE NUMBER I CAPTURED.
I'LL MAKE SURE I GOT IT CAPTURED.
SO THAT'S THAT NUMBERS THAT'S NOT CAPTURED.
I DIDN'T, I JUST DID IT AS A LUMP SUM HERE.
IT SAYS ABOUT, HE'S GOT HIS BOOK FOR BACKUP, EVERYTHING.
THAT WAS THE OTHER, IT WAS EVERYTHING THAT HE PRESENTED SO WE'RE LEAVING THAT WORD IS YEAH.
HE, I DON'T BELIEVE HE'S ASKING PART RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE.
YOU SAID THINGS ARE CONTINUING TO GROW.
AND AS HE CONTINUES TO GROW, HE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO PUT ON, HE SEES HER, HE, AND I THINK IT'S HE AND VANESSA BOTH, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN ARE SEEING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO NEED ANOTHER, ANOTHER CONSTABLE AT SOME POINT IT MAY.
THEY HAVE, I THINK SEAN HAS TWO DOESN'T.
TO, UH, HE DID TAKE THE REST OF HIS BUDGET DOWN.
HE WENT THROUGH AND SCRUBBED THROUGH HIS BUDGET AND WAS ABLE TO ACTUALLY ACTUALLY REDUCE SOME OF IT AT SOME OF THE LINE ITEMS THAT HE SAW IN THERE, UH, BACK TO THE JANUARY THING ON THAT POSITION TO, OKAY.
HOW MANY FOLKS DO YOU HAVE? THREE.
YOU HAVE THE SAME STAFF, RIGHT? THE TWO OF YOU, YOU AND SHANNON, VANESSA HAS TWO ALSO YOU'RE SPECIAL, UH, CONSTABLE TO DID THEY, THEY PRESENTED YESTERDAY, CORRECT? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OUTCOME OF THAT WAS THE K9 DEPUTY AND THE CIVIL PROCESS.
WE NEED TO PAUSE ON THOSE TWO POSITIONS.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE SHARES THAT OR NOT.
SO, UM, CONSTABLE FOR WE, WE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH CONSTABLE FOR WHAT'S WHAT CONSTABLE FOUR HAS NOW, AS THEY HAVE PART TIME, MONEY, AND THEY'RE THERE AND IT'S, AND IT'S FUNDING TO PEOPLE, BASICALLY IT'S FUNDING A PART-TIME OR DEPUTY AND A PART-TIME ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT, AND IT'S NOT ENOUGH.
AND SO THE PLACE YOU'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DO IS HAVE THESE FUN AND TWO PART-TIME DEPUTIES.
I THINK IT'S UH, SO WHAT SHE'S ASKING FOR, AND THERE MAY BE A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION HERE.
I KNOW THE COMMISSIONER CASE HEADED HAVE MORE DEEPER CONVERSATION WITH HER.
SHE DEFINITELY NEEDS TO MOVE HER ADMIN TO FULL-TIME THAT'S THE FIRST ASK.
AND THEN THE SECOND ASK IS TO MAKE SURE SHE HAS ENOUGH TO SUSTAIN HER DEPUTY.
I THINK, I THINK THAT'S THE ASK.
SO SHE, NO, SHE WOULD LIKE TO ADD ONE NEW FULL-TIME DEPUTY FOR SURE.
AND MAINTAIN HER CURRENT PART THOUGH.
SO DOES HE HAVE ANOTHER FULL-TIME DEPUTY
SO IT'D BE, IT'D BE A FULL-TIME POSITION AND A HALF-TIME POSITION TO MOVE THIS ONE TO FULL-TIME BUT WOULD GIVE HER TWO FULL-TIME DEPUTIES.
PARDON TIME? DEPUTY PLUS ADMINISTRATIVE TWO AND A HALF DEPUTIES AND A FULL-TIME ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT.
UH, YES, THIS MORNING I WORKED WITH HER TO HELP HER.
I SEEM TO HAVE MORE THAN TWO DEPUTIES
NOT THAT HE THAT'S WHAT HE TALKING ABOUT.
MY UNDERSTANDING WAS SHE WANTED TO PUT POST AND HE'S
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THE PART-TIME DEPUTY UP TO FULL-TIME AND THE CLERK UP TO FULL-TIME THAT WOULD GIVE HER THREE FULL-TIME DEPUTIES AND A FULL-TIME CLERK.THAT'S THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD IT.
SO I WENT OVER WITH ME THIS MORNING, CAPTURE THE OTHER, THE OTHER HALF TIME HERE IS WHAT I NEEDED TO CAPTURE IS ANOTHER HALF-TIME THAT WOULD SET THE STANDARD.
THAT WOULD PUT EVERYBODY IN ASSISTANT IN THREE CEDAR.
UH, DO YOU HAVE TO, OH, THEY ALL HAVE ADMIN.
SAY TWO HAS TWO DEPUTIES IN THE ADMIN SYSTEM.
SO ONE, THREE DEPUTIES, AND THEN MEN SAID, THAT'D BE MORE THAN, YEAH.
WELL PRECINCT ONE HAS TWO FULL-TIME DEPUTIES AND A FLIRT IS ASKING FOR ONE ADDITIONAL DAY APPROACH PRECINCT TO EMILY.
THE RECENT THREE HAS A CONSTABLE AND THREE, THREE DEPUTIES.
FOUR HAS A CONSTABLE TWO DEPUTIES, ONE PART-TIME DEPUTY AND ONE PART-TIME CLERK.
SO THE ASK HERE, THE ASK HERE FOR CONSTABLE FOUR IS TO ADD A DEPUTY.
THE ASK US THAT IS TO MAKE THIS POSITION FULL-TIME AND TO MAKE THAT OTHER CONSTABLE FULL-TIME RIGHT.
SO BASICALLY IT'S ASKING FOR ONE FULL-TIME POSITION.
THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT THE MATH WOULD BE ONE, BECAUSE SOME ARE PART-TIME RIGHT.
SO YOU HAD TWO AND TWO FULL-TIME DEPUTIES AND THEN SHE HAS ONE FULL-TIME.
SO SHE DIDN'T HAVE THREE FULL-TIME DEPUTIES.
SO I WOULD SAY THAT NEEDS TO BE A JANUARY START DATE OR JANUARY.
WHENEVER THAT TRANSACTION TAKES PLACE, IT NEEDS TO END THE IMPACT WOULD NEED TO START IN JANUARY.
I'LL REACH BACK OUT TO VANESSA AND MAKE SURE I'VE GOT IT CLEAR.
UH, THE NEXT TWO ARE OR COUNTY COURT OF LAW TO, THESE ARE TWO CURRENT POSITIONS WE HAVE THERE NOW.
UM, ONE OF THE DISADVANTAGES THAT WE HAVE WITH THE EVERGREEN STUDIES, BUT DIDN'T GET REAL GOOD.
DIDN'T GET A REAL CLEAR SNAPSHOT OF THIS FIRST POSITION FROM APPLES TO APPLE BECAUSE THEY'RE TITLED AS A CLERK NOW.
AND SO WHAT THEY REALLY ARE, AND, AND MY, MY UNDERSTANDING, AND OF COURSE I WORK IN THAT I WORKED IN THAT ARENA FOR, FOR, UH, FOR A YEAR, IS THAT THAT ONE POSITION IS REALLY A PROBATE AUDITOR.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A CLERK POSITION.
THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN A CLERK.
AND I'M GOING TO VOUCH FOR THAT BECAUSE OF MY CONTACT WITH, UM, WITH THAT PERSON IN THE WORK THAT ANY OF THESE, UM, WHEN I WENT TO MY LAST EDUCATION SESSION, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ARE KIND OF REALIZED IS THAT THAT'S A, THE THING ABOUT THAT, THE THING ABOUT THAT JOB IS THEY DO A LOT OF GUARDIANSHIP WORK IN TO SORT OF LIKE WHAT COMMISSIONER HUNT WAS SAYING A WHILE AGO.
WE SEEM TO HAVE MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE WANTING TO BE GUARDIANS OF SOMEBODY SO THAT THEY CAN GET A NEW CAR OR THE MOVE INTO THEIR HOUSE.
UM, ANYWAY, SO SHE DOES THAT WORK AS WELL AS THE PROBATE AUDIT FOR HER.
SO I THINK THAT'S A JUSTIFIED INCREASE.
IS THAT A JANUARY? OR IS THAT AN OCTOBER? I'D SAY TO BE CONSISTENT, WE MAKE A JANUARY.
THE OTHER POSITION IS THE PERSON THAT SERVES AS THE, THEY, THEY RUN THE, IN THE DIGITAL FENCE OFFICE.
THEY ALSO, THEIR SALARY IS SPLIT IF I'M CORRECT KAREN BETWEEN LAW LIBRARY AND THAT ONE DEPARTMENT.
SO THEIR SALARY IS SPLIT 50 50 BETWEEN THOSE TWO DEPARTMENTS.
BUT AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THAT DEPARTMENT IS PRETTY BUSY AS WELL.
SO THE ASK IS TO GIVE HER AN, A PAY ADJUSTMENT AS WELL.
SO THAT'S NOT JUST AT THAT BASE OF CLERK.
AND THAT'S THE MATH THEY'RE ASKING FOR.
I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH HER NOT LONG AGO.
UM, NOT SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THIS, BUT REALLY ABOUT, UM, TEXTURE AND ABOUT HER WORK.
I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S JUSTIFIED, BUT I THINK WE COULD MAKE BOTH OF THOSE JANUARY.
THE NEXT, ALL THE REST OF THEM ARE ROAD AND BRIDGE.
UM, YOU'LL HAVE THAT SAME, YOU'LL HAVE THE SAME MATH SITUATION THAT YOU'LL HAVE IN ROAD AND BRIDGE IS THAT IN ORDER TO FIND A POSITION YOU'RE UPSIDE DOWN NOW, SO YOU'D HAVE TO FIND THE FUNDING TO GET THOSE IN THERE.
SO WHAT'S DIFFERENT IN RODEN BRIDGE IS WHILE I'M SHOWING THAT YOU HAVE A NEGATIVE BALANCE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR ENDING BALANCES ARE.
SO WHEN YOU ROLL YOUR INTO YOUR TRUE INDIE BALANCES FORWARD, IF THERE, IF YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT IN THE MATH OF YOUR CURRENT REVENUE, CAUSE I, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.
SO ONCE WE KNOW THAT NUMBER AND WE GET CLOSER, WE, WE PROBABLY NEED
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TO DO A GUESSTIMATE.NOW I NEED AT LEAST A PLACEHOLDER, WOULD THAT BE CORRECT HERE? AND AS WE NEED IT, WE NEED AT LEAST A PLACEHOLDER NOW SO THAT WE CAN DO BUDGETING MATH TO MAKE SURE YOU'VE GOT ENOUGH TO COVER YOUR ASK.
UH, AND THEN IF NOT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THE SAME THING ON, ON REVENUE SOURCES THAT YOU CAN SCRUB THROUGH.
SOME OF YOU GENERATE REVENUE OUTSIDE OF TAXES, YOU SELL SERVICES, YOU DO IN OUR LOCAL AGREEMENTS, YOU DO THINGS THAT YOU GENERATE SOME REVENUE.
I DON'T HAVE A REAL CLEAR NO OF WHAT THE FUTURE OF THAT LOOKS LIKE.
I CAN TELL YOU WHAT THE HISTORY IS.
AND SO I JUST GO IN AND DO HISTORICAL DATA AND GIVE YOU A SNAPSHOT OF WHAT THE HISTORY TELLS ME.
BUT IF YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO BE UP OR DOWN IN ONE OF THOSE CATEGORIES, THAT WOULD BE AN IMPACT TO YOUR REVENUE.
BUT YOU CAN LOOK IN HERE NOW AND YOU CAN SEE YOUR GAP AND THIS NO, IF YOU'VE GOT THAT MUCH IN CONTINGENCY OR MORE THAN, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU CAN AFFORD MOVING FORWARD, IF NOT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AMONGST YOURSELVES, HOW YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THOSE GAPS.
I CAN, I CAN REAL QUICKLY JUST PUT THEM ON THE SCREEN.
IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE NUMBERS OF WHERE YOU ARE IS THIS.
AS OF TODAY, I WENT THROUGH AND TRUED UP WHAT THAT'S HAD A COUPLE OF ADJUSTMENTS, BUT AS OF TODAY, SO YOU START WITH ROAD AND BRIDGE.
ONE, MOCK YOURS IS 2 68, 600, UH, SKATE.
YOU'RE A 62 TO 23 TERRI AT 8, 4 84, 5 89.
AND COMMISSIONER CATER AT 180 4, 6 23.
WHAT THAT SAYING IS ALL THE REVENUE THAT G FUND 20 GENERATES.
AND YOU CAN TAKE, I'D USE THE SAME PERCENTAGES THAT WERE, THAT WERE APPROVED BY THE COURT LAST YEAR FOR YOUR DIVISION OF THOSE DOLLARS.
I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T TOUCH THEM.
JUST, I THINK IT'S 25, 5 30, 4 13.
WHAT? YOU PICKED UP ALL THE MONEY FOR THE ENGINEER.
I TOOK IT OUT AND I PUT ALL THAT INTO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
SO ALL THAT MONEY, ALL THAT ENTIRE BUDGET GOT AIRLIFTED AND SET INTO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
I JUST, I JUST MOVED IT FROM, I JUST DIDN'T.
I SCREWED IT UP AND WENT FROM ONE, ONE TO THE OTHER.
SO THAT'S THE SAME MATH YOU WOULD HAVE.
AND SO THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THIS.
SO THIS WOULD BE AN ADDITION TO THE MATH YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN.
WE GOT PEOPLE, I'LL SAY EVERYONE, PER SE, THEN YOU HAVE OTHER PEOPLE THAT YOU JUST APPROVED THESE INCREASES BECAUSE THEIR DEPARTMENT HAD ASKED FOR IT.
DO THEY GET THE 1%? DO THEY GET THE INCREASE, YOUR APPROVED OR DO THEY GET BOTH? OKAY.
ISN'T THAT THE WAY WE DID IT BEFORE, RIGHT? SURE.
I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO DO 1.7, 5% INCREASE LIKE WE DID LAST TIME.
SO I WOULD SAY, I WOULD SAY THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE GETTING INCREASES HERE, THE SUBJECT KIND OF 1%.
SO ANYONE THAT I'VE SCRUBBED THROUGH AND COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE EVERGREEN STUDY WOULD BE OUT.
IT WOULD BE EXEMPT FROM A COST OF LIVING RATES.
CLARITY ON THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
SHERIFF'S YOU'RE ACROSS THE BOARD.
YEAH, THAT'S IT WHERE I'M NOT AT, WE DON'T NEED A BIG PART OF THAT.
WE ARE ALREADY DONE WITH THAT.
I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T, THEY DIDN'T MEAN TO IGNORE YOU HERE, BUT WE HAVE CONSTABLE HERE.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU NEEDED? I MEAN, YOURS WAS PRETTY STRAIGHT FORWARD IN YOUR BUDGET.
WASN'T NOBODY NOT ASKING FOR MONEY.
THEY WERE PRETTY REASONABLE COSTS BASED UPON WHAT HE WALKED INTO.
SOME SUPPLIES AND EQUIPMENT THAT HE NEEDS.
IT WASN'T ANYTHING OUTRAGEOUS THAT I SAW.
UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK SO THAT WE CAN BE CONSISTENT, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ASKING FOR NEW POSITIONS HERE, IF THEY DON'T AND I HAVEN'T, I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK.
BUT IF, IF, IF WE HAVE, IF WE ARE AUTHORIZING NEW POSITIONS AND THEY DON'T HAVE, THEY HAVEN'T PROVIDED US WITH AT LEAST STEM STATISTIC OR DIALOGUE IS TO EXPLAIN WHY THAT POSITION IS.
YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT WITH ONE POSITION WHERE THEY'RE JUST THAT THEY'RE BUSY.
UM, I THINK WE OUGHT TO ASK THEM TO, IF WE DON'T HAVE JUSTIFICATION FOR THE INCREASE AND I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONES HAVE AND WHICH ONES, HAVEN'T THE EXCEPTION OF THE ONE YOU'VE ASKED ME TO GO BACK TO YOU HAVE ATTACHMENTS IN HERE.
I KNOW THAT THE CONSTABLES PUT TOGETHER AN ATTACHMENT SHEET THAT SHOWS ALL THEIR CALLS, ALL THEIR DROPS, ALL THEIR, SORRY, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU IF THERE'S ANY OF THESE THAT HAVE TO REVIEW THAT.
I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO DO IT, TO REVIEW THAT.
AND IF THERE'S SOMEBODY WHO DOESN'T HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, A REASONABLE JUSTIFICATION FOR THE INCREASE IN POSITIONS, UH, GO BACK TO THEM AND TELL THEM THAT THAT'S OUR REQUEST.
TO, TO, TO SHORE UP THEIR INCREASE I'LL DO IS I'LL GO BACK AND REDO THIS SHEET AND WORKING WITH BRANDY WE'LL WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO SOME CRUNCH TIME HERE BECAUSE THIS ISN'T, I MEAN, THIS IS A PROCESS.
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IF YOU SEE WHAT WE HAVE TO DO, IT'S A PROCESS TO GO THROUGH, SO, YEP.WE POSTED A, TODAY THIS MORNING WE POSTED A FROM MONDAY.
SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU IF WE PROBABLY NEED TO DO THAT.
WE ARE POSTED FOR MONDAY AT ONE.
SO, UM, THIS, WHILE THIS IS UP, I JUST HAPPENED TO GLANCE AT IT.
IT SAYS, WELL, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF HIRING A CASE MANAGER, CASE WORKER.
IS THAT EXTRA EMPLOYEE THAT JUST DIDN'T GET PUT ON THIS? NO, WE ALREADY HAD SOMETHING.
WHAT IS IT? WE ALREADY DID THESE TRUE.
THAT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST THAT'S I JUST GLANCED DOWN AND SAW THAT AND I DIDN'T HEAR A, IT, YEAH, THEY MOVED, THEY RESHUFFLED THEIR ORG CHART.
WE'RE STILL ASKING EVERYBODY FOR 5%.
AND, AND YEAH, SO THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AND LET'S TALK ABOUT THE 5%.
DO I, MAYBE I SHOULD, I'LL SEND A EMAIL TO ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ASK THEM TO GO BACK AND REVIEW THEIR BUDGETS OUTSIDE OF WAGES AND SALARIES TO REVIEW THEIR BUDGETS AND ASK THEM TO COME BACK AND CHANGE, GO TO, GO TO OPENGOV AND CHANGE THEIR BUDGETS TO REDUCE THEIR NON EMPLOYEE COSTS ABOUT 5%.
THERE'S SOME, WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
SO I'LL JUST DO A QUICK SUMMARY TO KIND OF WRAP UP WHERE WE ARE.
SO RIGHT NOW WE JUST SAID THE ELECTED OFFICIALS, NO CHANGE AT THIS POINT, A 1% RAISE TO THOSE ACROSS THE BOARD, EXCEPT FOR THE PEOPLE EXCEPT FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
AND THOSE PEOPLE BEING ADJUSTED FOR EVERGREEN.
THE SHERIFF HAS GIVEN US BACK 150 PLUS 90.
SO WE'LL MAKE THOSE TWO ADJUSTMENTS IN THE BUDGET.
UM, I'LL SCRUB THIS SHEET TO MAKE SURE ANY NEW POSITION OR ANY WOULD BE A JANUARY START DATE VERSUS A VERSUS A 12TH ONE START DATE.
AND NO, I GOT A COUPLE ON HERE.
I SAID, NO, I'LL TAKE THEM OFF.
AND THEN KAREN FROM YOU I'LL NEED AT LEAST SOME KIND OF A GUESSTIMATE ON FUND BALANCE.
SO I CAN PLUG IN SOME DOLLARS INTO, IN YOUR, TO FIND OUT WHAT KIND OF GAP WE HAVE FROM THERE.
AND THEN WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION AROUND TAX REVENUE ON MONDAY AND WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN THERE.
IF ANYTHING, MY HEAD IS JUST SPINNING FROM THE GROWTH IS THAT I CAPTURE EVERYTHING.
AND YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE MAKING ANY, ANY SIGN JUSTIN TO ME AT ALL.
I THINK EVERYBODY, I WAS JUST SAYING HE JUST RATTLED IT.
WELL, LAST TIME, LAST TIME I, I LEFT FOR JUST A COUPLE MINUTES.
SO MAYBE I SHOULD DO THAT AGAIN.
SO IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE HAVE HANGING OUT THERE? I MEAN, I, I, UM, I'VE GOT A FEW FUNDS.
I NEED TO BALANCE UP IN THE BOTTOM OF THE BUDGET, BUT THEY'RE NOT IMPACTING ANY DOLLARS.
I FEEL LIKE WE'VE KIND OF MADE SOME DECISIONS AND WE'RE MOVING CLOSER TODAY.
WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO TOO, IS I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH, WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT PEOPLE.
THERE ARE OTHER THINGS IN THIS BUDGET THAT I SAID EARLIER.
I DIDN'T SEE IT, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S MY DECISION TO MAKE.
AND SO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS BUDGET AND I'M GOING TO KIND OF DO A SPREADSHEET LIKE THIS, SO YOU CAN HAVE IT IN FRONT OF YOU.
THAT'S ALL THE, ANYTHING OF ANY SIGNIFICANCE WITHIN A DEPARTMENT THAT I THINK YOU NEED TO LOOK AT IT TOO.
I MEAN, THE EMAILS FOR THE NONPROFITS, WE HAD A COUPLE, BUT WE HAVEN'T ADDRESSED EVERYTHING.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE A SHEET OF THOSE NON-PROFITS WE DO MOST OF THAT.
I SORT OF THOUGHT WE WOULD GET EVERYTHING DONE AND THEN WE'LL, AND THEN WE'LL GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT AND SEE HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT.
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IT'S NOT THE ONE MAKING SENSE WHEN YOU PRINT ALL THOSE AND GET THOSE OUT AND ASK THEM FOR IT.
SO MOST, MOST OF THEM WERE PRETTY MUCH WETLAND.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ONE OF HIS NAMES.
SO THAT NEW ONE IS, IT'S NOT ON OUR BOOKS.
THERE'S ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND ON THAT.
THE, THE, NO, THAT WASN'T, THAT WASN'T STAR TRANSIT.
BUT, BUT I SAY WE PUT THAT IN THE POT WITH OUR END OF BUDGET DISCUSSIONS.
DO YOU AGREE ALL THE NON-PROFITS NEED TO BE RIGHT? I MEAN, WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF OUR, OUR NEEDS.
AND IF YOU WERE GOING TO DO IT THIS YEAR, IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT 10 YEARS? IT'S GOT TO BE WORDED DIFFERENT BECAUSE THE COUNTY IS NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF GIVING ALONE.
SO BE CAREFUL HOW THIS GETS WORSE.
YOU AUDITORS' NITPICKERS SYSTEM.
WELL, THAT'S KIND OF, I MEAN, SHE JUST GOT TO BE CAREFUL HOW WE LOOK THE LINE, NO MATTER THE LUMP SUM THERE, WHATEVER AMOUNT WE GIVE THEM AS A LUMP SUM THAT AND LET THAT LUMP SUM BE THEIR CASH RESERVE.
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UM, WE DON'T WANT TO FORGET THEM, MAN.UH, ONE, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME AND WE'LL HOPE TO SEE YOU WOKE UP, DID YOU ALREADY TURN US ON THERE? WE HAVEN'T ADJOURNED YET.
WE HAVE THE JARDEN PUBLICLY 33.
IS EVERYBODY THROUGH TALKING? YES, SIR.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
IS THERE A SECOND SEGMENT FROM BARBARA AND ESPECIALLY THOSE WITH