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UM,

[1. To Discuss the Fiscal Year 2021-2022 Budget.]

THIS WORKSHOP MEETING, ARE WE ON THIS WORKSHOP MEETING OF THE KAUFMAN COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURTS CALLED ORDERS? TODAY IS WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 4TH, 2021 AT ONE O'CLOCK.

AND WE WERE IN THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING ROOM IN THE COURTHOUSE, ANNEX ITEM ONE ON THE BUDGET IS ON THE ITEM.

ONE ONLY AGENDA IS DISCUSSED THE FISCAL YEAR 2122 BUDGET.

UH, THE ONLY OPENING THING I WOULD START WITH IS, UM, JERRY AND I TALKED JUST A COUPLE OF HOURS AGO ABOUT TODAY'S MEETING.

AND, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HOPE WE CAN ACCOMPLISH IS GET THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND ITEMS IN THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT SAY YES OR NO.

I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE PRETTY WELL LOCKED IN ON, ON USING THE $2.1 MILLION OF UNEXPENDED MONEY FROM FUND BALANCE TO BALANCE OUR BUDGET.

BUT IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING, THAT'S THE RATIONAL GOING? SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO LEAD OFF WITH.

JERRY.

YOU WANT TO ANYBODY? HELLO KAREN? NO, WE HAVE TWO KARENS DOWN HERE.

WE HAVE THE GOOD KAREN AND THE BAD KID.

HE'S NOT GOING TO TELL WHICH ONES.

NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.

I'M NOT GOING THERE.

OKAY.

SO YOU WANT TO, ARE YOU READY TO GET STARTED? OKAY.

SO JUST HAVE A FEW OPEN SWITCHES THAT I'D LIKE TO, BEFORE WE JUMP INTO THE DEPARTMENT REVIEW, UH, ONE OF THEM I'LL START WITH IS, IS THE PATROL CONTRACTS.

AND SO WE, WE WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE DISCUSSIONS ON THE PATROL CONTRACTS.

YOU DON'T MIND PASSING AROUND, SIR, BUT JUST WANT TO GET CLARITY ON THESE REMAINING POSITIONS IN THESE CONTRACTS, SO THAT, SO THAT BRANDY CAN FINISH UP THAT SIDE OF THE PAYROLL SHEET.

SO I'LL KEEP IT, I'LL KEEP IT HIGH LEVEL AND WHAT'S COMING AND WHAT'S COMING AT YOU OR THE DETAILS.

SO WHAT'S STILL OPEN IN THE PATROL CONTRACTS IS THERE'S A TOTAL REQUEST, UH, FOR, FOR NINE POSITIONS OF, OF THOSE NINE POSITIONS.

ONE OF THOSE POSITIONS IS A CORPORAL AND ONE OF THOSE POSITIONS IS A CLERK AND THOSE POSITIONS ARE CONTINGENT UPON THAT BUILDING OPENING UP IN WINDMILL FARMS AND HAVING THAT STATION FOR THOSE, FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS, UH, THAT BUILDING IS, IS IN, IS IN FLUX.

I DON'T KNOW ALL THE DETAILS AROUND THAT, BUT I THINK THAT IF IT, IF IT'S GOING TO OPEN, IT WAS GOING TO BE SOMETIME LIKE FEBRUARY, BUT THAT'S THOSE TWO POSITIONS AND THAT CORPORATE POSITION, IT STARTED OUT HAVING AN INVESTIGATOR AND EVERYTHING'S, WE'VE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS, BUT WHERE IT'S LANDED AS THAT WOULD BE A CORPORAL WHO WOULD BE KIND OF OVER THAT GROUP OF FOLKS, IF YOU WILL, AND BE IN THAT STATION.

AND THEN A CLERK DEDICATED TO SUPPORT THAT GROUP OF PEOPLE, THE REMAINING ONES ARE ACTUAL DEPUTIES THAT ARE WITHIN THE CONTRACTS THEMSELVES.

SO EACH ONE OF THOSE INDIVIDUAL CONTRACTS IS ASKING FOR MORE DEPUTIES.

UM, ALL OF THESE POSITIONS ARE I'LL CONFIRM WITH THE AUDITOR, BUT ALL OF THESE POSITIONS ARE COST NEUTRAL TO THE COUNTY.

ALL OF THOSE EXPENSES THAT ARE INCURRED WITHIN THOSE CONTRACTS ARE THEN PART OF THAT OVERALL CONTRACT EXPENSE.

AND THAT'S BILLED BACK TO THOSE INDIVIDUAL CONTRACTS.

SO THEY, THEY ASK OF THE COURT WOULD BE AT LEAST THESE, THESE SEVEN OPEN POSITIONS THAT WOULD BE INSIDE THOSE CONTRACTS.

IF WE CAN GET A THUMBS UP ON THOSE, THEN BRANDY HAS THE INFORMATION SHE NEEDS AND THEN SHE CAN LOAD THOSE INTO OUR WORKBOOK.

AND THEN AS ADDED THAT, AS THAT WOULD INCREASE THOSE EXPENSES ON THOSE SIDE, I WOULD SIMPLY OFFSET THAT WITH INCREASING THE REIMBURSEMENT.

SO THE IMPACT WOULD BE NET AT ZERO, BUT BECAUSE THEY ARE POSITIONS THAT ARE BEING ADDED TO THE COUNTY ROSTER, UH, WE NEED THE COURT TO APPROVE THEM OR GIVE ME A THUMBS UP TO MOVE FORWARD.

WE DON'T HAVE NAMES AT THIS POINT.

THEY'RE JUST THEIR DISPOSITIONS, RANDY, NOT CAPTURE ALL THAT.

SO YEAH.

UH, JERRY, I HAD A QUESTION, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN ANSWER THIS OR IF WE REALLY NEED THE CONSTABLE IN HERE TO ANSWER THIS, BUT, UH, AT ANY GIVEN TIME, HOW MANY OF THESE DEPUTIES ARE ON DUTY AT THE SAME TIME? I COULDN'T ANSWER THAT BECAUSE I'M MO I MEAN, DO THEY WORK SHIFTS OVER THERE BECAUSE OF WHAT THE REASON I'M ASKING IS IF YOU HAVE SAY TWO GUYS WORKING AT WINDMILL FARMS, TWO GUYS WORKING AT DEVIN SHOWER, TWO GUYS WORKING TRAVIS RANCH, ONE SERGEANT CAN HANDLE THAT IN MY OPINION.

OKAY.

UM, I WOULD ALSO THINK, AND AGAIN, AS FAR AS THE CLERK GOES, A SERGEANT OR A CORPORAL COULD HANDLE THOSE DUTIES INSTEAD OF HAVING THAT CLERK.

YEAH.

I MEAN, CAUSE FOR WHAT THEY DO OVER THERE, IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE RUNNING AN ACTUAL POLICE DEPARTMENT, ACTUAL PATROL SERVICE.

OKAY.

THEY'RE BASICALLY, YOU MIGHT PAY YOUR RUNS SECURITY SERVICES OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

AND I JUST, I PERSONALLY DON'T SEE

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THE NEED FOR ALL OF THOSE POSITIONS WHEN THAT'S ALL THEY'RE DOING.

I JUST, I JUST DON'T HAVE THOSE DETAILS.

I LOVELY TO KNOW THAT.

SO JERRY, LET ME ASK, W W WE ALREADY, WE'RE TALKING NOW ABOUT CONTRACT POSITIONS.

WE ALREADY HAVE AGREED, AM I CORRECT IN THIS TO ADD A CONSTITUTIONAL POSITION, CIVIL PROCESS.

SO A CONSTITUTIONAL DEPUTY POSITION.

AND DID WE NOT ALSO INCREASE THE SKEET? MAYBE, YOU KNOW, DIDN'T WE CHANGE THE PART-TIME TO FULL-TIME UNDER, UNDER THE STRAIGHT COUNTY BUDGET FOR THE CLERK.

DID WE, IS THAT NOT CLERK WAS, THE CLERK WAS ALWAYS FULL OF TIMES FOREVER.

SO YOU HAD IT.

I ADDED ONE POSITION TO THAT, THAT GROUP THAT'S IN THE JP COURT.

SO THAT GROUP THAT THERE, WE ADDED ONE, BUT WE ADDED ONE FULL-TIME DEPUTY ONE FULL-TIME THEY ALREADY HAVE A FULL-TIME SAME, THE SAME AS YOU DID THE OTHER THREE PRECINCTS.

THEY ALL, NOW THEY ALL HAVE THREE.

I THINK YOURS JUST HAS A PART TIME CLERK, BUT THE OTHER ONES HAVE, THEY ALL HAVE A FULL-TIME, UH, I DON'T KNOW, ON THE CLERK, BUT I THOUGHT THE CONTRACT PAID A LITTLE BIT APART.

MONEY THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING CURRENTLY IS CURRENTLY THE CLERK THAT'S IN THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE CLERKS FOR THE CONTRACTS AS WELL.

AND THE CONTRACT SUBSIDIZE HER.

SO SHE GETS A, SO SHE IS A PART-TIME CLERK, THE COUNTY BOARD.

SHE'S A PART-TIME CLERK FOR THE CONTRACTS.

SHE'S A FULL-TIME CLERK FOR THE COUNTY COUNTY.

I THINK, I THINK I'M SAYING, BUT ANYWAY, THE MONEY THAT CONTRACT HELPS PAY HER SALARY.

SO SHE WORKED, YOU'RE SAYING SHE WORKS 60 HOURS A WEEK, OR ARE YOU SAYING THAT SHE WORKS 40 BUT HALF, BUT TWO THIRDS IS PAID BY COUNTY MONEY AND A THIRD IS PAID BY CONTRACT.

I DON'T KNOW THE HOURS OF WORK.

I THINK THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GOING TO GET ANSWERS TO THIS QUESTION AND TO YOUR QUESTION IS TO ASK, UH, JOHNSON TO COME OVER.

SO WE COULD DO THAT FOR TOMORROW.

I COULD REACH OUT TO ANNABEL AND SEE IF SHE CAN GET AHOLD OF, YEAH, I DON'T HAVE THOSE ANSWERS.

I JUST, I JUST HAVE THE MAP.

AND, AND SO, UH, AND AS KEITH, MAYBE YOU'RE THE RIGHT GUY TO ASK.

I DON'T KNOW.

OKAY.

I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT SORT OF THE 30,000 FOOT LEVEL ABOUT THIS BUILDING, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER THE DETAILS.

WHAT CAN YOU JUST REFRESH MY MEMORY ABOUT WHAT THIS BILL, THEY, THEY, UH, HOA OUT THERE WINDMILL FARMS, OR THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD A BUILDING FOR THEIR SERVICES, THEIR WATER BOARD AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO ADD ENOUGH FOR DEPUTIES TO BE ABLE TO BE STATIONED OUT THERE.

KIND OF THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.

IT'S GOING TO BE NO COST TO THE KAUFMAN COUNTY.

YOU KNOW, UH, THEY'RE JUST GOING TO USE THIS SPACE, YOU KNOW, AND IN MY BOTTOM LINE WITH, WITH THE CONTRACTS IS, YOU KNOW, EVERY POLICE OFFICER THAT WE CAN PUT ON THE STREET, WHETHER IT'S, UH, PATROL OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, BASICALLY IN THAT END OF THE COUNTRY WHERE WE HAVE THIS MANY NEIGHBORHOODS, THIS MANY PEOPLE, IT'S JUST ONE STEP BETTER OFF.

AND WHEN IT'S AT NO COST OF US, I THINK THIS IS A NO BRAINER.

I'M SORRY.

I JUST, I JUST CAN'T SEE THE DOWNSIDE TO THAT WHEN THE CONTRACTS ARE GONE, THEIR JOB THEY'RE GONE.

UM, UNLESS THEY PICK IT UP SOMEHOW RATHER THAN WORK, ONE OF THEM DEVELOPS THEIR OWN POLICE DEPARTMENT IN WHICH I WOULD HOPE THAT SOONER OR LATER THEY WOULD EITHER DO THAT.

OR THE LEGISLATOR WITHIN ACT THAT FRESH WATER DISTRICTS COULD HAVE POLICE DEPARTMENTS INSTEAD OF JUST MY DISTRICT.

UM, BECAUSE I THINK CLAYMAN TRAINS AND WINDMILL FARMS, I MIGHT BE SAYING IT WRONG.

I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE EARLY THOUGH.

UM, BUT THE JUDGE, SHE WALKED IN THE, UM, BUT WHAT, YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LEGISLATION WOULD DO, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE POINT IN ARGUING OVER FREE POSITIONS THAT COST US NO MONEY.

AND IT'S COMPLETELY A HUNDRED PERCENT NEUTRALIZED.

IT IS FOR POLICE AND EVERYBODY WANTS THEM.

UM, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO ASK ME ARGUING ON THIS POINT.

I MEAN, I'M SORRY.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE ARGUING.

UH, BUT WE DID, IF I UNDERSTOOD THIS, RIGHT, WE DID ADJUST THE CONTRACT SO THAT, SO THAT, UH, DOWN THE ROAD COMP TIME, THERE'S SOME, THERE'S SOME UPFRONT LOADING OF THAT POTENTIAL LIABILITY.

RAYMOND ADDRESSED ALL THAT IN THE CONTRACTS.

YEAH.

SO MY ONLY REAL CONCERN ABOUT THIS CONTRACT, BECAUSE I AGREE WITH YOU, YOU KNOW, IT'S CLEAR THAT THERE'S A NEED FOR POLICING OVER THERE.

PATROLLING IS DIFFERENT THAN POLICING.

I'LL GO ALONG WITH COMMISSIONER BARBARA, BUT, BUT POLICING THEN INVOLVES JUDGE WILEY'S OFFICE.

IT INVOLVES PROBATION,

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PRE-TRIAL JUVENILE PROBATION, ADULT PROBATION, AND NONE OF THOSE ARE, ARE ADDRESSED IN THE CONTRACTS.

SO, UH, I DO, AND MAYBE THIS BUDGET CYCLE, ISN'T THE TIME TO DO ADDRESS IT.

BUT I DO SEE THAT AS THAT, I MEAN, WE'RE SEEING EXPONENTIAL GROWTH IN THAT, IN THAT PATROLLING CONTRACT CONCEPT OVER THERE.

UH, YOU KNOW, IN 19 WHEN I STARTED, WE HAD LIKE FOUR OR FIVE OF THOSE GUYS AND NOW YOU'RE UP TO CLOSE TO 20 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND SO, AND AS WE POINT OUT, THE REASON WE'RE MOVING THAT WAY IS BECAUSE THERE'S MORE JUDICIAL ACTIVITY OUT THAT WAY IN MY MISSTATING THAT JUDGE, WELL, NO.

AND I'M CALLED A WALKING IN LIGHT.

SOUNDS LIKE Y'ALL ARE HAVING A LOT OF THE CONVERSATION YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN POLICEMEN TROLLING OR THE TROLLING IN THE WHOLE JUDICIAL PROCESS.

HOWEVER, YOU WOULD SAY IT THEN YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, JUDGE RICHARDS OR ONE OF YOU MADE A POINT THAT WHEN WE RENEGOTIATE THAT'S OUR OFFICE, I'M SO THROWN OFF HERE, THE COUNTY CLERK IS SAYING THAT SHE CAN'T HEAR YOU WELL, SHE'S TALKING ABOUT USING THE MICROPHONE.

WE CAN HEAR YOU GOOD.

SHE JUST DOESN'T KNOW IF THE RECORDING CAN HEAR YOU.

SURE.

NO, I'M SORRY.

I'M BETTER NOW.

SO ANYWAY, THAT BEING SAID, I, I AGREE.

I'M UNDERSTANDING THE PREMISE CORRECTLY, THAT IT, THE CONTRACT IS, NEEDS TO BE MORE DENSE AND IT NEEDS TO, TO TAKE THAT IN.

AND I THINK THIS IS THE TIME THE TIMING IS BAD BECAUSE IT WASN'T IN THIS BUDGET THAT IS, WE RENEGOTIATE, Y'ALL HAVE THAT EXPERTISE.

WE HAVE THAT ALL OF YOU GUYS, EXCEPT FOR A FEW OF YOU HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, EITHER WITH FIRE OR ACTUALLY POLICE THAT WE NEED TO START THINKING ABOUT THAT AND BRINGING ALL THAT TO BEAR IN THESE COUNTRIES.

SO, SO REALLY THAT'S WHAT ASKING ABOUT THE BUILDING.

THAT'S WHAT REALLY REMINDED ME OF THIS CONCEPT THAT EVEN THE HOA RECOGNIZES THAT WITH THE GROWTH OF THE WORKFORCE, THE, YOU KNOW, REGARDLESS WHETHER IT'S CONTRACT NEUTRAL, THESE, THESE ADDITIONAL DEPUTIES, IT'S OVERWHELMING, YOU'RE, YOU'RE A FACILITY.

SO THEY CLEARLY NEED, NEED SPACE.

THEY NEED SPACE TO OPERATE.

AND THEIR OPERATIONS DO GENERATE ADDITIONAL WORK THAT THE COUNTY HAS TO ADDRESS.

UH, YOU KNOW, OH, ARGUE THIS JUST A LITTLE BIT.

UH, IF THE CRIMES BEING COMMITTED, IT WOULDN'T MATTER WHO ARREST HIM.

RIGHT.

IF THE CRIMES BEING COMMITTED, IT WOULDN'T MATTER WHAT WOULDN'T MATTER WHO ARRESTED HIM? NO, IT DOESN'T MATTER.

ALL I'M SAYING IS WHAT MATTERS IS THE INVESTIGATION.

YEAH.

BUT IT'S A CRIME AND, AND, AND IF WE CAN SLOW THE CRIME DOWN, RIGHT.

AND THAT'S WHAT I HOPE THAT THAT IS THE NATURE OF THE WHOLE THING.

THE MORE POLICE CARS THAT ARE ON THE STREET, MAYBE, MAYBE THE CRIME RATE WILL GO DOWN.

IF THEY'RE NOT THERE, WE REALLY MIGHT BE OVERLOADED.

I MEAN, IN REVERSE, YOU KNOW, WELL, YOU GUYS KNOW ABOUT THE LAW.

IF A POLICE OFFICER, CONSTABLE ANY CERTIFIED POLICE OFFICER, THOUGH, THE LIABILITY WE GET INTO IS EVEN OFF DUTY OFFICERS THAT WORK FOR US AND SEE A CRIME THEY'RE UNDER A DUTY TO DO SOMETHING.

THEY GO, IT'S A FELONY, THEY'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING AND THEY'RE GOING TO EFFECT AN ARREST, ATTAIN SOMEBODY.

SO OF COURSE YOU'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT FINE.

YEAH.

AND, AND, AND THAT'S JUST WHERE I COME FROM.

I JUST THINK THAT IF PEOPLE WANT IT AND THEY'RE WILLING TO PAY FOR IT, I JUST CAN'T OBJECT IT AT ME BECAUSE I WALKED IN, I'M ASSUMING Y'ALL HAD THIS DIALOGUE NUMBER OF THE PATROL OFFICERS AND THE CONTRACT.

RIGHT.

AND, AND I JUST DON'T, YOU KNOW, I JUST CAN'T OBJECT TO THAT.

IT WOULDN'T MATTER TO ME IF IT WAS A HUNDRED OFFICERS OR 50 OFFICERS OR 25 OFFICERS, IF THE PEOPLE FELT COMFORTABLE HAVING THAT.

AND THAT'S THE MAIN REASON THEY PAY FOR IT BECAUSE THEY WANT TO SEE THAT PATROL CAR DRIVE UP AND DOWN THAT STREET.

THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.

AND THAT'S WHY YOU'RE PAYING EXTRA.

IT'S NOT BECAUSE IT'S NOT BECAUSE THAT WE DON'T HAVE A POLICE FORCE.

IT'S BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE THE POLICE OFFICER, YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IS OVER THERE PATROLLING, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE OVER THERE PATROL AND WE ALL KNOW THEY ARE, BUT IT'S GOING TO CUT DOWN ON NUMBERS SIGNIFICANTLY.

IF WE DON'T HAVE THIS CONTRACT OF PATROL, THERE WAS NO QUESTION, WHICH DISTRICT CAROL TALKING ABOUT THAT SPECIFICALLY, WHICH WHO ARE, Y'ALL TALKING ABOUT, WHICH NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIFICALLY TODAY? I THINK WE WERE JUST TALKING ALL THE CONTRACTS, PERIOD, WINDMILL, CLEMENTS, TRAVIS, AND THEY'RE GONE.

THEY'RE GOING TO INCREASE IN CLEMENTS

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AND TRAVIS FOR SURE.

BECAUSE THEY KEEP SEEING HIM AND HE'S IN, WAS WASN'T ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT NOT DOING THE CONTRACTS? I THINK THE DISCUSSION OF THE QUESTIONS WAS A THINK TERRY HAD A QUESTION ABOUT, WELL, BUT I'M SAYING IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER TO US.

UM, I'M SAYING IT STARTED AS THEY HAVE, OR HOW MANY, WHATEVER, CAUSE THEY'RE PAYING FOR IT, NOT US.

WOW.

BUT HERE'S THE THING I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD.

AND IT'S THINK ABOUT, AND SINCE YOU ALL ARE REALLY USING THIS OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT IT, WHEN YOU SAY IT DOESN'T MATTER, IT MAYBE DOESN'T MATTER WHEN YOU SAY BECAUSE THE BOTTOM LINE AND THE COST IS, BUT THE BURDEN SHIFTS BACK TO OUR OFFICE AND IT GOES TO ALL THE WAY THE COURTS CAUSE HOW A CASE IS HANDLED AND INVESTIGATE.

IT DOES MATTER.

SO JUST IMAGINE THIS, ALL THESE PATROL PEOPLE OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, THESE, THESE CONVERSATIONS THAT SHERIFF WAS HERE, HE WOULD BE INVOLVED IN IT.

AND WHO HAS ACCESS TO NEIGHBORS WHO CAN FILE CASES? YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT WE'RE ALL DOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS, HOW WE START THIS PROFESSIONALLY.

SO I THINK THAT THE WILL IS ACTUALLY THERE.

AND WE GET IN, IN THE BEGINNING A HANDLE ON HOW IT'S GOING TO BE ORGANIZED AND HOW WE WANT TO ORGANIZE THIS IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT'S A GREAT RELATIONSHIP, THE BEST WE CAN, THE CONSTABLES ELECTED, THE SHERIFF'S ELECTED.

WE DO NEED TO HAVE, BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU, AND I'M NOT PICKING ANYBODY DEPENDING ON THE AGENCY, WE HAVE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF PROFESSIONALISM IN THE WORK THAT'S PRODUCED AND PROVIDED TO US THE BETTER IT IS, THE QUICKER WE CAN GET TO PROSECUTION.

AND THE QUICKER YOU PROSECUTE, SOMEONE AND JUSTICE IS SERVED.

WHATEVER THAT IS.

HOW ABOUT IF SOMEBODY IS NOT GUILTY, THEY GET OUT OF JAIL QUICKER.

AND SO W WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO BE AS PROFESSIONAL FROM THE BEGINNING AND NOT JUST HAVE, I WOULD SAY, COMMISSIONER, PARTICULARLY YOU IT'S IN YOUR PRECINCT THAT WE BRAINSTORM HOW THE BEST WAY WE WANT TO DO THIS.

SURE.

THEY'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO BE PROUD OF THE FINISHED PRODUCT FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, WHEN WE HAVE A SEAMLESS AND A WAY THAT THIS IS GOING TO WORK, WE WANT THOSE PEOPLE ARRESTED, BUT WHO'S GOING TO CLEAN THEM.

I MEAN, YOU CAN FISH ALL DAY, BUT WHO'S GOING TO CLEAN THEM.

AND WE NEED TO REALLY THINK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I'M TELLING YOU WE'VE HAD PROBLEMS, BUT I ALMOST TURNED A CORNER WITH SOME FOLKS BECAUSE NOW THE PROMISE SERIOUS ENOUGH THAT WE, WE MIGHT ALL BE ON THE SAME PAGE.

SO NOW'S OUR OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT HOW WE WANT THIS TO MOVE FORWARD.

AND THEN IN THE CONCEPTS OF CRIME, SUPPRESSION AND CRIME DETERRENT, PROSECUTION, THE, THE, THE FRYING OF THE FISH IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE, UH, IT'S BEEN DEMONSTRATED AMPLY IN MANY POLICE STUDIES THAT WHERE THERE'S NO, FOLLOW-THROUGH EVENTUALLY THE DETERRENT FROM PATROLLING BEGINS TO FALTER.

SINCE IF YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NEVER GONNA LOOK AT THE IMMIGRATION SYSTEM WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, PEOPLE AREN'T DETERMINED ABOUT ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY'RE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD BEFORE THEY EVER HAVE TO SEE A PROSECUTOR.

YEAH.

WELL, I HOPE WE DON'T COMPARE THAT TO THAT, BUT THE CONCEPT IS THE SAME.

THE SECOND PART IS, IS THE MORE, THE MORE FISH YOU CATCH, IF THERE'S NOT SOMEONE THERE TO PROCESS THEM AND HANDLE THEM, THEN THEY WIND UP ON THE COUNTY DIME, SITTING IN A COUNTY JAIL.

BUT I WILL COME BACK TO THE SAME POINT IF THERE'S CRIME BEING COMMITTED, SOMEBODY HAS ARRESTED.

AND I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S HAPPENING BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN, SINCE WE STARTED TALKING, EVEN BEFORE WE DID THE, BEFORE WE STARTED ENGAGING WITH THE JUVENILE LAW, WHICH, OR TALKING ABOUT THE CURFEW, WE HAVE BEEN TALKING NOT IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS, BUT AS FAR AS LAW ENFORCEMENT AND WE HAD A PARTICULAR, AND WE KNOW ABOUT THE SHOOTING THAT SPILLED OVER INTO CLEMENTS, I THINK IT GOT EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION.

AND JUST THE HEIGHTENED PATROL, WHICH MEANT FOR OTHER AREAS IN OTHER PRECINCTS, UH, THE SHERIFF HAD PULLED THOSE PEOPLE OFF THAT HE HAD ALSO SPOKEN TO A CONSTABLE THAT HAD BEEN HEIGHTENED.

AND WE'VE SEEN A LITTLE REDUCTION IN JUVENILE CRIME, BUT THAT'S NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT.

IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S ANECDOTAL, BUT WORKING TOGETHER AND BEING ON THE SAME PAGE.

AND THEN PEOPLE SAYING, LET'S MOVE OVER HERE AND SPEND A LITTLE TIME.

SOME OF THOSE SAME PLAYERS THAT WE WERE DEALING WITH, AS I'VE TOLD Y'ALL BEFORE, HAVE DECIDED JUST AS COMMISSIONER KATE, SIG, PEOPLE THAT ARE INVOLVED IN CRIME OR ARE NOT STUPID, THEY GO, HMM, WELL MAYBE WE'LL JUST MOVE BACK TO WHERE WE WERE BECAUSE WE CAN DO THE THINGS WE WANT TO DO.

AND THERE'S NO REACTION.

THAT'S ALL WE WANT.

THAT'S ALL WE CAN HOPE FOR IS TO TURNS, RIGHT.

I MEAN, WE WANT TO, OBVIOUSLY, BUT I'D RATHER DETER THAN HAVE A CRIME COMMITTED.

I WENT TO, THAT'S WHY I SAID THE MORE THAT WE HAVE ON THE STREET, BUT IT WAS DONE.

TROLL HAD BEEN THERE, BUT IT WAS THE NEXT STEP.

RIGHT.

IT WAS ACTIVELY ENGAGING WITH THOSE FOLKS AND ARRESTING THOSE PEOPLE CAME TO BEAR

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BECAUSE WE JUST KEPT FLIPPING IT UP AND MAKING SURE, YEP.

SO THIS MAY BE GO BACK TO DALLAS, SO THEY WON'T COME OR WHEREVER THEY WANT TO GO, YOU KNOW? CAUSE I LIKE THE PROSECUTOR.

I DON'T NEED TO BE CAREFUL.

I DON'T WANT TO PICK ON ANY OF THAT.

BUT I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S OUR CLOSEST NEIGHBOR THAT SENDS, SENDS US EXTRA PEOPLE.

UM, BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S JUST WHERE WE ARE.

WELL, IT'S GREAT LIVING OUT HERE.

I DON'T BLAME THEM, BUT ALL THAT BEING SAID.

AND WHILE I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE OPERATIONAL OVERSIGHT, UM, I SEE YOUR POINT.

AND SO ASSUMING THAT WE FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THOSE NEW POSITIONS ARE COST NEUTRAL.

UH, I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T OBJECT.

IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THOSE TODAY, TELL JERRY MOVE ON EXCEPT THAT AND MOVE ON.

OKAY.

YOU GOT THAT MESSAGE.

GOT THAT MESSAGE.

OKAY.

UH, THE NEXT AREA I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS JUVENILE PROBATION.

UM, JUVENILE PROBATION HAS A JUVENILE PROBATION BOARD, UH, THAT, THAT DOES THEIR BUDGET.

AND THERE'S BEEN SOME, SOME PAYROLL CHANGE FORMS, BRANDY HANDLES ALL, ALL THE PAYROLL STUFF.

AND SO WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE COURT'S AWARE OF THE JUVENILE BOARD ASK AND JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS WHAT IS THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT.

AND AGAIN, IS THAT THE JUVENILE BOARD CREATES A BUDGET AND PROPOSES A BUDGET.

THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT HAS TO FUND THAT BUDGET.

JUDGE, AM I WRONG? I THINK THAT'S HOW THAT WORKS.

LIKE ALL THINGS THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT HAS TO APPROVE THEIR BUDGET WELLS.

THEY APPROVED THE DOLLARS.

WE HAVE TO APPROVE THE DOLLARS OF THEIR BUDGET.

WE DON'T, WE DON'T MANAGE THE DETAILS OF THEIR BUDGET, BUT WE DO APPROVE THE TOTAL.

OKAY.

OF COURSE PAYROLL WAS GOING TO BE A BIG PART OF THAT.

SO WHEN, I GUESS, I GUESS THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY, THE OPINION THAT WHENEVER THE AMOUNT THAT WE APPROVED, THAT'S THE AMOUNT THEY HAVE TO WORK WITH.

RIGHT.

THAT'S TRUE.

LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE REALLY.

I MEAN, THAT IS, THEY HAVE TO WORK OUT THE DETAILS, BUT WELL, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE THE LINE OF .

THEY HAVE TO WORK WITH WHAT ARE MEAN.

UM, YOU GOTTA BE IN THAT DAY, I HAD TO, I HAD TO SEND MISS PISA EMAIL AND TELL HER I NEEDED THE BUDGET BECAUSE SHE WAS HOLDING OFF UNTIL THE STATE ANSWERED SOME QUESTIONS FOR HER BECAUSE SHE'S BEING REAL CREATIVE WITH THE NEW STUFF SHE PUT TOGETHER.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR WAS Y'ALL APPROVE THE BUDGET BEFORE WE ACTUALLY GOT HER BUDGET.

SO I'M HAVING TO FIND ANOTHER COUNTY BUDGET, THE COUNTY BUDGET BEFORE THE JUVENILE BUDGET GOT ADOPTED BY THE STATE.

SO I'M HAVING TO FIND THE EXTRA $103,000 OUT OF GENERAL FUND TO FUND OUR PORTION OF HER CURRENT BUDGET.

THAT BRINGS TO, UH, THE FACT THAT SHE'S ADDING SOME NEW POSITIONS THAT HER BOARD APPROVED FOR THAT AGAIN, SHE'S ADDING SOME NEW POSITIONS.

YES.

UM, THERE WERE FOUR PEOPLE THAT RECEIVED 6% INCREASE IN SALARY AND THEN A NEW POSITION OF, UM, 36,000 AS A BASE.

SO OUR PORTION TO HELP WITH THE BUDGET IS ALMOST A MILLION DOLLARS OR RIGHT AT A MILLION DOLLARS.

IT'S USUALLY ABOUT 700 SOMETHING THOUSAND, BUT SHE'S NOT GOING TO HAVE A CARRY OVER UNLESS I GIVE HER THAT 103 AND EITHER WAY IT'S GOING TO HIT US AND I'D HAVE MORE INFORMATION TOMORROW AFTER WE PUT THE BUDGET IN AND SEE WHERE WE'RE, UH, AND ONE OF THE TITLES SHE HAS IS WRONG.

SO WE'VE GOT A QUESTION OR AN ASKING HER, WHICH ONE IS IT? SO WE CAN GET IT RIGHT? WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO RECEIVE HER BUDGETS? OR WHEN WILL WE RECEIVE HER BUDGET? SHE, SHE RECEIVED HER BUDGET FROM THE STATE CAUSE SHE JUST SENT IT TO ME BY EMAIL.

AND, UM, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT WE SAID.

IT WAS VERY, IT ADDED UP FOR ME ON THAT SEAT.

I ALWAYS PUSH IT AROUND TRYING TO GET THIS ANSWERS FOR Y'ALL FOR TODAY.

SO IF JERRY SAID Y'ALL WERE MEETING THEM, I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT WE PROBABLY MISSED A STEP LAST YEAR.

WE PROBABLY SHOULDN'T HAVE APPROVED THE COUNTY BUDGET WITHOUT THAT BIG PART IN THERE.

RIGHT.

I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T HEAR ALL OF THAT.

SO I SAID, WE MISSED A STEP LAST YEAR.

WE PROBABLY, WE SHOULDN'T HAVE APPROVED OUR, WE SHOULDN'T HAVE CREATED THE COUNTY'S BUDGET UNTIL WE HAVE THAT SOLID BUDGET FROM THE JUVENILE PROBATION.

WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT AGAIN.

NO.

NOW MS. BRANDY KNOWS HOW TO DO, HOW TO WORD THE EMAIL TO GET THE ATTENTION THAT WE MAKE.

OKAY.

SHOULD I PUT THEM ON HER DESK? BUT OUR PORTION SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABOUT 700

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AND SOMETHING THOUSAND DOLLARS.

AND SHE HAD A CARRY OVER OF ALMOST 300,000, WHICH WAS A LITTLE OVER A MILLION DOLLARS.

SHE'S NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT CARRY OVER NOW.

SO WE'RE GONNA, IT'S GOING TO COST US RIGHT AT A MILLION DOLLARS, BUT I WANTED TO PROVE IT WITH EVERYTHING SHE'S GIVEN US TODAY, BECAUSE REALLY WHEN JERRY CAME BY, HE SAID, WE HAVE OUR MEETING AND I NEEDED TO KNOW JUVENILE STUFF.

I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM HIM.

AND I SAID, WE JUST MET WITH HIM LIKE 15 MINUTES AGO.

AND WHEN IT WAS ALREADY 1215.

SO I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT HAVING ALL THE ANSWERS FOR YOU AT THE ONE O'CLOCK A MEETING.

SO YOU WANT US TO SUSPEND THIS DISCUSSION UNTIL TOMORROW.

OKAY.

UM, WOULD THAT BE OKAY JERRY? SO WE CAN HAVE SOME GOOD NUMBERS BECAUSE I NEED TO SEE WHAT SHE ACTUALLY ENTERED ON HER SIDE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IN AGREEMENT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THIS HAPPENING AGAIN.

OKAY.

AND ONE REASON IS SOME OF THE OLD COMMISSIONERS, NOT IN AGE, BUT IN SENIORITY.

I HEARD NUMBER THAT WHEN WE ADOPTED A BUDGET, WE USUALLY DIDN'T HAVE TO DO ANY AMENDMENTS OR CHANGES OR LINE ITEMS TILL ABOUT HALFWAY OR MORE THROUGH.

AND WE'RE HAVING TO DO THIS TOO MUCH.

SO WE NEED TO GET THIS BUDGET RIGHT.

ANYWAY, I'M GOING TO SHUT UP AND Y'ALL CAN.

OKAY.

SO, UH, I THINK IT MAKES SENSE FOR US TO, EVEN THOUGH WE DO WANT TO, WE'VE GOT TO KEEP MOVING THE NEEDLE.

UM, LET ME JUST GIVE YOU A PLACE HOLDER.

SO IT WAS SIX 60 LAST YEAR.

I BUMPED IT THE 8 16, 4 52.

AND IF IT'S GOING TO BE A MILLION, THAT'S ANOTHER HUNDRED AND 95,000 THAT WE'D HAVE TO ADD TO OUR CURRENT NUMBER.

SO YOUR CURRENT, SO YOUR TWO YEAR TWO, ONE BECOMES TWO, THREE, WHAT'S OUR PERCENTAGE OF HER BUDGET.

IT'S THERE'S LIKE A MILLION, NO PERCENTAGE.

LIKE WE USED TO HAVE 57% TO 44 THIRDS.

YEAH.

WE, WE FUND ABOUT TWO THIRD.

YES, SIR.

WELL, I DO HAVE A QUESTION THEN, UH, IF, IF THE REST OF OUR EMPLOYEES ARE GONNA BE AT 1%, HOW IS IT THAT WE'RE GONNA JUSTIFY 6% FOR A SELECT GROUP OF EMPLOYEES THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT? THAT? I MEAN, ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS COME UP WITH A CAP NUMBER.

THEY HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SURVIVE.

THAT NUMBER SORT OF, I THINK WOULD BEAR INTO HOW MUCH YEAH.

OUR TOTAL BUDGET WOULD BE.

AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

WE ONLY HAVE TO COME UP WITH A NUMBER WITH A DOLLAR MEANT BY ANY OF THOSE PEOPLE IN THE EVERGREEN STUDY DRAMATICALLY OUT OF SORTS.

NO SIR.

NO, NO, SIR.

THEY WERE ALL AT MEDIUM.

THEY WERE ALL EITHER AT OR ABOVE THE PROPOSED MEDIUM THAT THE SAME MATH WE USE FOR EVERYBODY ELSE THEY WERE EITHER AT OR ABOVE.

SO I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH WHERE WE ARE NOW, THAT WHATEVER NUMBER WE COME UP WITH BE ADJUSTED SO THAT WHATEVER RAISES OUR STAY WITH THAT 1%, THE REST OF OUR EMPLOYEES HAVE TO STAY WITH.

I MEAN, THAT SEEMS REASONABLE TO ME.

WELL, IT SEEMS FAIR.

OKAY.

YOU KNOW, IT WOULD REALLY BE NICE IF THE BUDGET OFFICER, OUR, THE COUNTY AUDITOR WAS INVOLVED IN GOING TO THESE JUVENILE MEETINGS WHEN THEY SET A BUDGET.

SO WE KNOW WHAT STICKS AND HIT US BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW TILL I ACTUALLY SEND THE EMAILS, I GOTTA HAVE IT.

WELL, FULL DISCLOSURE I'M ON THAT BOARD.

BUT I WAS NOT, I WAS UNABLE TO GO TO THAT LAST MEETING WHEN THIS CAME UP.

SO I MIGHT HAVE TO DOCK YOUR PAYCHECK AGAIN, PLEASE JUST ADMITTED EQUITY.

DO I DESERVE TO BE ADOPTED? THIS COMMISSIONER IS SET BY JUVENILE PROBATION BOARD.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH IT, IF YOU HAVE MS. PEACE, NO, WE CAN.

WE SET THE TOTAL AMOUNT AND THEN WE DON'T DABBLE WITH THEIR LINE ITEMS. BUT I MEAN, WE DO SET THE TOTAL.

IF SHE WANTED TO STAY WITH 6%, SHE'D HAVE TO REDUCE HER LINE ITEM SOMEWHERE ELSE.

IS THAT CORRECT? YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO USE LAST TONER.

WELL, LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET A BETTER SOLID, YOU KNOW.

OKAY.

SO WE'LL DO IT TOMORROW AND WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE A PACT THAT WE'LL GET THIS SETTLED TOMORROW.

RIGHT? OKAY.

OKAY.

WORKS.

STAYING ON MY OPEN SWITCH THEN.

ALL RIGHT.

LEAVE THAT SWITCH OPEN.

OKAY.

UM, SO ALL LET'S ROLL.

ALMOST SCROLL MY SCREEN.

SO ALL OF YOU WILL SEE THIS SUITS, SUSHI, THE SAME SCROLLING SCREEN THAT I HAVE.

SO EVERYTHING I'M SCROLLING THROUGH AT THE TOP, THESE ARE ALL REVENUE LINE ITEMS. UM, THEY'VE BEEN MATERIALLY SCRUBBED.

UM, SOME OF THESE REVENUES THAT ARE COMING THROUGH OUR ONGOING REVENUES THAT WE COLLECT EITHER QUARTERLY OR PERIODICALLY OR MONTHLY THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF A YEAR.

SO I'M TAKING SNAPSHOTS.

I TOOK A JUNE SNAPSHOT.

I'LL TAKE A JULY

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SNAPSHOT.

AND THEN I WORK WITH THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE AND WE KIND OF DO WHAT WE CALL A PROJECTION RIGHT.

OF WHERE THESE ARE.

AND WE'RE MOVING THESE UP AND DOWN.

THERE'S NOT ANY, THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY REAL SIGNIFICANT CHANGE TO ANY OF THESE.

YOU KNOW, YOU MAY SEE $50,000 UP FOR $50,000 DOWN.

I THINK WE'VE MATERIALLY CAPTURED MOST OF THEM.

SO THAT'S WHAT ALL THESE TOP LINE ITEMS ARE ALL THE WAY TILL YOU GET TO ACCOUNT 4 0 1, 4 0 1 IS THE FIRST DEPARTMENT WITHIN, WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND.

AND SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS JUST CLICK ON THESE AND VERY QUICKLY GIVE YOU THE OVERVIEW OF THESE DEPARTMENTS.

AND I'VE GOT THEM ALL IN REVIEW.

AND IF YOU ALL SAY, YES, I'LL MOVE THOSE TO APPROVED.

AND THAT WOULD JUST KEEP MOVING THIS PROCESS FORWARD AS WE GO THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND.

SO ALREADY THE VERY, VERY FIRST ONE IS COUNTY JUDGE.

SO AS YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THESE, YOU HAVE THREE TABS.

YOU HAVE EXPENSES, REVENUES AND ACTIVITY BECAUSE THESE ARE GENERAL FUND ACCOUNTS.

THEY WILL HAVE NO REVENUES.

THEY ARE ALL FUNDED FROM THE GENERAL FUND.

SO THEY'RE ALL JUST GOING TO SEE EXPENSES.

SO IN THIS PARTICULAR BUDGET, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THIS TAB.

IF YOU SEE THIS ARROW, YOU ALL HAVE THE SAME SCREEN.

THIS OPENS UP THAT SCREEN.

SO HIS BASE WAS FOUR 14.

HIS ADJUSTMENTS ARE $9,800 FOR A NEW BUDGET OF 4 24, 6 63 OR 6 73.

UM, MOST OF THOSE INCREASES ARE WRITTEN OUT HERE.

THEY HAVE TO DO WITH, WITH COMMUNICATIONS.

SO UPGRADING THE WEBSITE, UPGRADING THE PLATFORMS, SOME, SOME, SOME MATERIALS WITHIN THERE.

SO THE NET NET OF THIS, OF THIS BUDGET IS ASKING FOR $9,800 YEAR OVER YEAR INCREASE.

SO WE'RE GOOD.

IF WE'RE GOOD, I'LL JUST KEEP MOVING ON.

SO ANYTHING, ANY OBJECTIONS? I GUESS WE HEAR? OBJECTION, OBJECTION.

THAT'S WHAT I SAID.

I'LL JUST KEEP MOVING.

SO IT HIT AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THE PROCESS, BUT THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO NAVIGATE THE SYSTEM ON A QUESTION AT NIGHT, BUT I HAVE TO GO BACK.

I GOT TO JUMP OUT AND I GOT TO JUMP BACK IN EVERY TIME.

AND SO THIS IS COUNTY COURT AT LAW.

SO THIS, THIS ONE YEAR OVER YEAR IS ACTUALLY GOING DOWN 12,000 9 95.

WE MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS, THEY MOVE SOME SOFTWARE CHARGES THAT WERE HITTING THIS BUDGET MOVE TO A DIFFERENT ONE.

SO THERE'S JUST A LITTLE BIT OF FLIPPING GOING ON HERE, BUT THE NET NET OF THIS BUDGET IS IT'S RIGHT NOW.

IT'S AT 5 81, 5 38.

SO WE'RE GOOD.

I'LL JUST KEEP GOING.

YOU CAN SPEND TIME READING THOSE ALL, ALL THE YES, SIR.

WELL, I GUESS IF YOU HAVE ONE THAT'S WENT DOWN.

YEAH.

YOU WANT TO GET NEAR THE LEFT ON YOUR, ON YOUR FOUR JUDGES.

YOU DID NOT GIVE ANY OF THEM A RAISE.

DID YOU? I DIDN'T SEE ANY STATUTES COME THROUGH.

SO I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING.

HE MEANT SOMETIMES LATE.

WE WOULD GET THOSE EMAILS FROM THE STATE SAYING TO ADJUST THOSE WAGES.

BUT I DID NOT.

I'M NOT SURE.

SO YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO PAY HIM ANYMORE.

I THINK WE'RE AT OUR, OUR TOP UNTIL WE GET A NEW ROOF THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN BRANDY.

IF YOU HAD ANYTHING BRANDED, YOU DIDN'T ADJUST ANY OF THOSE.

SO UNTIL WE GET A RULING, LIKE WE DON'T ADJUST IT SURE WAS IT FIRST BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T GIVE EVERYBODY THAT 1% AND I HAD HER BACK THOSE OUT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I HAVE NOT, I HAVE NOT DONE ANYTHING WITH SALARY COMBAT THE SUPPLEMENT, MY, THE FRONT OF THE STATE.

OKAY.

18, BUT THE ALBUM OR WHATEVER, THEY DIDN'T CHANGE IT.

OKAY.

NOT YET.

NO, I BETTER HURRY UP.

THEY GOING TO DO IT.

THIS IS THE COUNTY CLERKS.

UM, YEAR OVER YEAR IS UP 35,000 7 55.

SHE'S IN THE ROOM, BUT HER RECORDS AND INDEXING IS REALLY THE PREDOMINANTLY PIECE OF THAT.

IT'S UP ABOUT $50,000.

SHE'S GOT SOME SAVINGS IN OTHER LINE ITEMS. NOW DO KNOW THAT THESE ALSO INCLUDE BRANDON, ALL THESE NUMBERS INCLUDE THE RACE.

SO ANYTHING PAYROLL RELATED TO THIS POINT IS IN, IN THERE.

SO THIS IS ANY OF THE NEW POSITIONS STARTING IN JANUARY.

ANY OF THOSE THINGS, THEY ARE PART OF THIS CURRENT MATH.

SO IT'S INCLUDED IN THE IT'S INCLUDED IN THE BASE.

YEAH.

SO OUR, OUR LEAP FORWARD IS OFF OF THAT BASE.

SO IN THAT IS NOT ANY KIND OF, SO THAT 1, 1, 4, 6, 4, 10 INCLUDES THAT'S JUST BASE INCLUDES ALL THE SALARY ADJUSTMENTS, BUT IT INCLUDES, IT INCLUDES SOCIAL SECURITY IN EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING.

OKAY.

OKAY.

AND I KNOW THIS PROCESS IS A LITTLE BIT DOWN, A LITTLE BIT CUMBERSOME TO JUMP BACK AND FORTH.

UH VETERAN'S SERGEANT THAT ALREADY, I'M SORRY.

I KEEP SAYING THAT VETERANS' SERVICES OFFICER.

THIS IS AGAIN UP 44, 30 OR 43 40 OVER HERE.

YEAH.

UM, I CAN FIND AN EASIER WAY TO DO THIS.

I MIGHT, BUT I CAN'T TALK ABOUT, BUT I CAN'T SHOW AS THE BASE ABOUT LOADING SCREENS,

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PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE IS DOWN NEAR, OVER HERE SLIGHTLY.

ALL THOSE ADJUSTMENTS WAS BECAUSE OF PAYROLL ADJUSTMENTS GOING TOO FAST.

THIS IS MY DEPARTMENT.

THIS HAS BEEN KICKED OUT AND PUT INTO ITS OWN DEPARTMENT NOW.

SO I WAS FUCKED UP UNDERNEATH, UH, THE COUNTY JUDGE.

AND NOW THIS IS SITTING OUT THERE IN ITS OWN DEPARTMENT.

THIS IS ONE KAREN THAT WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO ADJUST ONCE WE GET ALL THE FINAL NUMBERS, BECAUSE WE, THIS IS, THIS IS MOST LIKELY GOING TO GO UP ON US.

UH, WE WENT TO CATCH THAT HERE PRETTY QUICK.

UM, IF IT DOES, I'LL JUST HAVE TO ADJUST THAT COMMITTED FUND BALANCE TO OFFSET IT.

SO IT'S BEEN CREEPING UP 10% OR SO A YEAR FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

WE SEE SOME THAT JUMP A LITTLE HIGHER AS THESE TIPS, GET A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN THE LINE, THE COST REIMBURSEMENTS GET A LITTLE HIGHER.

SO REVENUES GET HIGHER REVENUES GET HIGHER, BUT THE COST GETS HIGHER.

SO WE HAVE TO KEEP ADJUSTING THIS, THIS OUTPUT LINE AND I'LL GO BACK AND I'LL ADJUST THE REVENUE SIZE TO GET IT TO BALANCE BACK OUT.

THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE BROKEN DOWN BETWEEN THE, THE FOUR ENTITIES.

THAT'S NOT GOOD.

THE WAY SHE'S GOT THIS DONE.

THIS IS JUST A TERRIBLE ONE.

I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, WHY HAVE ANOTHER POWER CENTER IS THE GENERAL, IT'S NOT PART OF THE DIFFERENCE, UH, AND IT'LL TELL YOU WHAT IT IS.

AND SO WE JUST PAINT.

THEY'VE GOT THEM ALL LOW.

THEY GOT THEM ALL GROUPED INTO ONE IN THERE, BUT ONE CHART OF ACCOUNTS.

AND SO RANDY I'M SURE IS CAPTURING NOTES.

AND SO WE'LL SEND A NOTE TO BREAK OUT THE CHART OF ACCOUNTS HERE SO WE CAN SEE IT BY, BY SEPARATE ENTITIES BECAUSE IT'S LIKE THE CITY OF KAUFFMAN, CITY OF FORNEY AND CITY OF TERRELL AND POWER CENTER.

YEAH.

SO WHEN COUGH, WHEN YOU NEED TO SPLIT THE TWO, A ONE AND IT TURNS TO, YEAH.

SO WHAT I WOULD TELL THE COURT HERE IS I THINK WE HAVE RISK IN THIS PARTICULAR ONE.

WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO SEE THIS GO UP A LITTLE BIT.

WELL ARE GOING TO HAVE CRANDALL TOO, CAUSE THEY APPROVED FOR CRANDALL.

SO WE NEED TO ADD THAT ONE.

I MISTAKE SORT OF BROUGHT MY MOUSE DOWN HERE WITH ME A LITTLE BIT EITHER.

MAYBE WHERE YOU, WHERE YOU'RE AT.

I DO.

UM, SO THIS IS GENERAL GOVERNMENT.

THIS IS WHERE WE CATCH QUITE, UH, QUITE A BIT OF THINGS.

AND SO YOU'RE SEEING A PRETTY MASSIVE DECREASE, BUT REALIZE THAT GENERAL GOVERNMENTS WHERE WE CAPTURED ALL THE COVID EXPENSES LAST YEAR.

SO EVERYTHING WAS SETTING IN, IN, IN THIS ACCOUNT AND IT WAS BEING OFFSET BY REVENUE.

ALL OF THAT COVID MONEY HAS BEEN STRIPPED OUT OF THERE.

SO REALLY THE ONLY REAL BIG CHANGES TO 4 0 9 AT THIS POINT ARE KIND OF CALLED OUT HERE.

WE'RE PICKING UP THAT HOUSTON STREET LEASE OVER THERE.

UH, WE'VE GOT THE PROPOSAL OUT THERE FOR THE JANITORIAL.

SOME OF THAT WILL BE, WILL BE RECAPTURED BACK TO THE CONTRACT WITH, WITH OUR PARTNERS, WITH NORTHRIDGE, WITH, WITH THE HUMANE SOCIETY.

BUT IF I WANT ME TO, I CAN DIG INTO IT A LITTLE DEEPER, BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT THAT MUCH CHANGE YEAR OVER YEAR, UM, 4 0 9 BECOMES KIND OF A LANDING SPOT.

THIS IS WHERE ALL OF YOUR APPROVALS FOR ALL OF YOUR NON-PROFITS ARE IN 4 0 9.

WE PICK UP THE, UH, THE COUNTY HEALTH AUTHORITY IS IN 4 0 9 COUNTY PORTION OF WORKMAN'S COMP COUNTY'S PORTION OF LIFE, UH, OF LIABILITY INSURANCE.

AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE ALL CAPTURED IN HERE.

WE DID SEE A FEW ADJUSTMENTS TO OUR RATES, BUT NOTHING, NOTHING OF ANY SIGNIFICANCE AT THIS POINT, BUT THEY'RE IN THAT DETAIL, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO BE WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE AND EVERYTHING THAT NEEDED TO BE APPROVED.

WE'VE ALREADY ADDRESSED IT WITH THE COURT.

CAN I, UM, SINCE THIS IS WHERE THE NON-PROFITS ARE AT, RIGHT? YES, SIR.

I'M PRETTY SURE IT IS.

LET ME MAKE SURE.

I PRETTY SURE KAREN, IN THE STORY WE CAPTURE ALL THE NONPROFIT DONATIONS.

THAT'S NOT THE OTHERS.

IT IS.

SO IT IS OFFICE FURNITURE.

MEDICAL EXAM HAS POSTED A SINGLE PRESIDENT, NORTH COUNCILS.

UM, YES, ALL OF OUR NON-PROFITS ARE IN HERE.

OKAY.

SO JANITORIAL SERVICES NOT BEING UNDER MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT, THAT'S A SEPARATE CONTRACT THAT WE'RE GOING TO COVER OUT.

THEY'RE GOING TO SUB IT OUT AND CONTRACT IT FOR RIGHT NOW.

WE'VE PROBABLY PARKED THE MONEY IN HERE.

WE COULD LIFT IT AND MOVE IT TO, TO THE OTHER DEPARTMENT IF WE WANTED TO.

BUT BECAUSE IT'S A CONTRACT, THAT'S WHY IT'S SETTING IN HERE.

OKAY.

BUT THIS ISN'T THE MONEY THAT WE GIVE THEM.

THIS IS JUST THE MONEY THAT WE'RE EXPANDING THEM.

JANITORIAL.

THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE JANITORIAL SERVICES FOR THE NEW JUSTICE.

YEAH.

BUT I MEANT THE NON-PROFITS

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THIS, THIS WOULD BE THE MONEY WE'RE GIVING THEM.

THAT'S WHAT'S, THAT'S, WHAT'S CAPTURED HERE.

THIS IS WHERE WE TARGET.

THAT'S NOT THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF MONEY.

YES.

ALL THE WAY OVER HERE.

I CAN SEE WHAT WE, HERE'S WHAT WE, HERE'S WHAT, HERE'S THE FINAL, HERE'S WHAT WE ARE GIVING.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT IN COLUMN.

RIGHT? LET ME GET OVER IT A LITTLE BIT.

IS I GET, I GUESS IT IS.

I FIGURED IT, WELL, THERE'S THE FIREPLACE.

SO THIS IS THIS, THESE, THESE ARE THE NON-PROFITS WE DISCUSSED.

WE STARTED WITH, WITH THE BASIC FENCES.

WE STARTED WITH THE, THE SENIORS FIREFIGHTERS, UH, STAR TRANSIT.

THIS IS ALL THOSE.

OKAY.

SO I GUESS WHAT I WAS GETTING TO IS I KNOW WE HAD, THEY CAME IN FOR THE, UH, MEALS ON WHEELS, SENIOR CONNECT, I GUESS IT'S WEST CALLED THAT AND THEN MADE A PRESENTATION AND STUFF.

AND THEN YOU MADE A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE LUMP SUM ONE-TIME DEAL, WHICH SOUNDED LIKE A GOOD COMPROMISE, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT IT REALLY IS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF WHAT THEY NEED.

AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOLKS WITH MEALS ON WHEELS AND PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO GO AND, AND, AND MEET AND, AND, AND HAVE MEALS AT THESE, ALL THESE LOCATIONS WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

SO I TALKED TO, TO SEE ABOUT, UM, HAVING A DISCUSSION AGAIN ABOUT WHAT THEY CAME AND ACTUALLY TALKED TO US ABOUT.

I WASN'T FUNDING THEM AN EXTRA A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, 200,000 TO GO TO 200,000.

WELL, THIS WHAT'S TAKING IT FROM 100 AS WHAT THEY CAME TO.

HIS FOIL WAS A 200,000 FUNDING, BUT THAT WAS A CASHFLOW ISSUE AS WELL.

AND THEN TALK TO ME THAT YOU AND BRIAN CAME AND TALKED TO ME, BUT THAT WAS, I REMEMBER GORDON WAS ON THE BOARD.

YES.

IT WAS A CASH FLOW AS A CASH FLOW DEAL.

THEN WHAT THEY REALLY NEED IS, IS, IS MONEY IN THERE TO PAY THE BILLS AND STUFF BECAUSE THE STATE'S NOT PAYING OKAY, FASCINATING, RIGHT.

IS WHAT IT IS MONEY.

SO THEY DID OUR MONTHLY RENAULT.

WE CAN'T LOOK AT ANYTHING MONTHLY MONEY TO RUN ON THAT.

WE GIVE THEM THE STOP IN DIFFERENT QUARTER, BUT THEN THEY NEEDED A CATCH IN FLUX TO BE ABLE TO PAY THE BILLS.

AND THEY HAVE THE BAIL AT THE LEAD TO THE STATE LEGISLATURE.

PEOPLE ARE TRIED TO SPEED UP THE PAIN COMING FROM THE STATE.

THERE'S A BOG SOMEWHERE UP IN THAT WHERE PEOPLE AREN'T GETTING, YOU KNOW, DOWN TO THE PEOPLE THAT NEED TO PAY THE BILLS.

SO KAREN DID YOU, DID WE, DID YOU SIGN OFF ON PAYING THAT HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS ON OCTOBER? THE FIRST Y'ALL HAD MENTIONED IT AND I SAID, I HAVE NO PROBLEM IN STROKE.

MY AP CLERK JUST CUT IT INSTEAD OF THE 25,000 EVERY QUARTER, BECAUSE THAT WAS, I MEAN, THAT WAS HIS BIG ASS.

HE ALSO CAME AND TALKED TO ME IN KEMP THAT, THAT THEIR PROBLEM.

AND I THINK THEIR PROBLEMS GO DEEPER THAN WE'VE DISCUSSED.

AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO DISCUSS IT OR NOT, BUT, UH, THAT THEIR NEED WAS TO HAVE CASH RESERVES BECAUSE THEY GET REIMBURSED FOR EVERY MEAL THEY SERVE.

AND THAT THERE, UH, THAT THEY WERE EXPERIENCING A 60 TO 90 DAY DELAY.

YES.

WHICH MADE CISCO FOOD TRUCKS NOT WANT TO DELIVER FOOD.

SO THE RESOLUTION TO THAT IS A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS UPFRONT.

OKAY.

AND, AND, AND I, I AGREED WITH, I AGREED WITH YOU WHENEVER YOU SAID THAT, BUT EVIDENTLY THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT NOW IS THAT THAT'S NOT REALLY GOING TO HELP THEM GET THROUGH THIS.

WHY? I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, IT'S, I THINK IT MIGHT BE GOOD FOR US TO LISTEN TO MEMBERS OF THEIR BOARD TO COME BACK IN AND EXPLAIN TO US WHERE THEY'RE AT AND THEY NEED TO BE TOTALLY TRANSPARENT WITH PROBLEMS THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE, OR HAVE HAD, AND EXPLAIN EVERYTHING TO US UP HERE.

BUT, UH, AND ACTUALLY WHENEVER YOU MADE THAT RECOMMENDATION, I REALLY THOUGHT I AGREED WITH YOU THAT WE GET TO THE ONE-TIME CASH INFLUX THAT WOULD GIVE THEM THE WORK, THE WORKING REVENUE, THEY NEEDED TO STAY AHEAD OF THE BILLS AS THEY COME IN.

BUT IF IT IS THAT PART OF THEIR MONTHLY OPERATING EXPENSES, IF THAT A HUNDRED THOUSAND THAT WE HAVE FUNDED THEM IN THE PAST, SO WE'RE JUST PAYING THEM UPFRONT.

BUT THEN THEY GET REIMBURSED FOR THE MEALS THAT THEY YEAH.

THAT THEY, I MEAN, SO THAT SHOULD BE A NET, YOU KNOW, PUSH BECAUSE SOMEBODY IS PAYING FOR WHAT THEY GIVE AWAY.

AND THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND THAT WE GIVE THEM FUNDS THEIR OPERATING EXPENSES, FLATLAND, I GUESS THEY WERE IN THE HOPE AND NOT, NOT FOR THAT.

AND THEN HE SAID SOMETHING TO METHOD TREASURE OR SOMETHING.

WELL, THERE THERE'S, I MEAN, THEY HAD SOME KIND OF FALLS.

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HE HAD A FINANCIAL IMPROPRIETY, WHICH, WHICH NEVER GOT NEVER, I MEAN, WE GIVE THEM A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS AND WE DON'T REALLY SCRUTINIZE THEIR BOOKS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO IF THEY'RE SORT OF IN THE HOLE AND I MEAN, BELIEVE ME, I'M ALL FOR HELPING SENIORS, BUT IF BAD MANAGEMENT PUT THEM IN THE HOLE, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO CORRECT.

AND ADDRESSING THE MANAGEMENT ISSUE.

WELL, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT WE WERE DOING BY FRONT OF THEM, THE MONEY, BECAUSE IN REALITY, AT LEAST TO MY WAY OF THINKING, WE'RE SORT OF, WE'RE SORT OF STEPPING OUT AND RECOGNIZING THE CHARACTER OF THE BOARD AND THE BOARD MEMBERS AND, AND EVEN HAVING SOME FAITH IN THEIR INTERIM DIRECTOR.

YEAH.

SO, UM, BUT I'D HAVE TO SAY BEFORE, I'M GOING TO BE IN FAVOR OF ANOTHER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

I'D LIKE TO SEE THEIR BOOKS.

SO I MEAN LIKE, WHAT IS THE INTERIM DIRECTOR GETTING PAID? I THINK THAT WE JUST NEED TO BRING IN A DIRECTOR OR BOARD MEMBERS BACK TO DO SOME MORE EXPLAINING.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO OUR CHALLENGE TODAY IS WHETHER, CAN WE JUST TELL JERRY TO TAKE IT LIKE IT IS, AND IF THEY WANTED TO COME BACK BETWEEN NOW AND THE TIME WE CLOSE OUR BUDGET PRESENTATION, THE PRINCIPAL OF WHAT HE WAS TRYING TO DO WITH THE ONE-TIME PAYMENT IN MY MIND, I THOUGHT IT SOLVED THE PROBLEM I REALLY HAD TO CAUSE THAT'S WHAT BRIAN HORTON TALKED TO ME ABOUT INDIVIDUALLY, AS WELL AS WHAT I TOOK AWAY FROM HIS PRESENTATION HERE.

SO I, I AGREE WITH THAT.

I THOUGHT WE WERE ON THE RIGHT TRACK, BUT FROM WHAT I'VE GOTTEN SINCE THEN, IT'S NOT REALLY GOING TO REALLY SOLVE THEIR PROBLEMS. SO WHEN YOU JUST NEED TO LISTEN TO THEM, THEY NEED TO, IF THEY WANT TO TRY TO MAKE THEIR CASE AGAIN, THEY NEED TO, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.

WE'RE NOT AND YOU FOR THEM TO COME BACK.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO GOOD TO GO ON THAT RIGHT NOW.

YEAH.

I'VE GOT A NOTE, UM, EMERGENCY SERVICES DOWN 56, 72 YEAR OVER YEAR OR FROM THE BASE.

THIS IS THE ANIMAL SHELTER.

UM, LET ME, LET ME OPEN THIS ONE UP JUST A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.

SO WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF LINE ITEMS BECAUSE IN THE PAST, ALL WE'VE HAD IS WE'VE JUST PARKED SOME MONEY THERE UNDER ANIMAL CONTROL, RIGHT? SO WE'VE JUST HAD THIS MONEY THAT WE JUST PARKED THERE.

SO HERE'S, WHAT'S, HERE'S, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THIS CONTRACT.

AND SO THE BUILDINGS SHOULD BE OPEN FOR SERVICES.

LET'S, LET'S, LET'S CALL IT JUNE.

SO IF THE BUILDING'S READY TO GO IN JUNE, WE'LL NEED A LITTLE BIT OF LEAD TIME TO GET THE BUILDING SET UP AND READY TO GO AND EVERYTHING ELSE BRING IN OUR PARTNERS.

AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO PROVIDE US WITH, UM, A PRICE TO OPERATE IT FROM JUNE UNTIL THE END OF THE YEAR.

SO FROM THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, UNTIL JUNE, WE WILL STILL BE PAYING OUR PARTNERS AT CEDAR CREEK LATE.

AND THAT'S BEING COVERED THROUGH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

AND THEN WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE BEING TOLD AND WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WE KNOW FROM, FROM RESEARCH AT OTHER FACILITIES, WHEN YOU OPEN UP A NEW FACILITY, A LOT OF TIMES YOU GET A, A PRETTY BIG INFLUX RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE.

SO A LOT OF ACTIVITY, SO EMPTY BUILDING.

SO WE NEED TO BE PREPARED THAT WE MAY HAVE TO HAVE PARTNERS THROUGHOUT THE TILL UNTIL WE GET ALL THIS LEVELED OUT.

AND SO OUR PARTNERS AT CEDAR CREEK LAKE HAVE GIVEN US SOME RIGHTS ON WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE TO GO TO A REDUCED SERVICES CONTRACT FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE YEAR.

SO WE'VE GOT ALL THIS KIND OF WEIGHED OUT.

SO I PARKED THOSE DOLLARS WITH CEDAR CREEK LATER PARKED IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

AND I'VE PARKED DOLLARS HERE TO GET US OPEN, TO GET US STARTED UP AND, YOU KNOW, JUST SOME INCIDENTALS THAT THAT ALWAYS HAPPEN WHEN YOU OPEN A BRAND NEW BUILDING.

SO I'VE GOT THESE DOLLARS PART HERE, THESE COVER STARTUP COSTS, ANY ANYTHING WE HAVE TO DO TO GET OCCUPIED, ANY, ANY FINAL PERMITTING, ANY OF THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

SO I'VE GOT THESE DOLLARS PARKED IN THIS BUDGET.

I, I AM PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT AGGRESSIVE.

YEAH, WELL, IT MAY NOT BE QUITE THIS MUCH, BUT I'D RATHER HAVE IT HERE THAN TO NOT HAVE IT HERE AND START OUT OF THE GATE, SHOOTING OURSELVES IN THE FOOT.

SO I WAS ALWAYS LEAST THAT WAS MY THOUGHTS ON THIS.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IS.

SO IT COVERS, AND THEN MOVING FORWARD AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND WE GET INTO A FULL YEAR, WE WILL TAKE ALL OF THOSE DOLLARS OUT OF THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET AND WE WILL PARK THEM ALL HERE.

SO IT WON'T BE ANY MORE CONTRACTED SERVICES FOR ANIMAL.

UM, THE WAY THE CONTRACT IS SET UP WITH, WITH OUR NEW PARTNERS IS THAT THE COUNTY WILL NOT BE IN THE REVENUE BUSINESS.

WHEN IT COMES TO PETS AND PET ADOPTIONS, WE WILL BE IN THE, IN

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THE, UM, ANIMAL CONTROL BUSINESS.

WE WILL ONLY BE IN THE ANIMAL CONTROL BUSINESS.

SO OUR ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS AND ANY, ANY OF OUR, ANY OF OUR OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT WE PARTNER WITH WILL DROP OFF ANIMALS.

AND OUR OPERATING PARTNERS HANDLE EVERYTHING FROM THERE FORWARD, INCLUDING ALL FINANCIAL TRANSACTIONS.

SO WE'RE COMPLETELY OUT THAT, THAT BUSINESS, I DO BELIEVE AND HAVE ALL OF MY PROJECTIONS SHOW THAT AGAIN.

I HAVEN'T SEEN THE FULL COST OF OPERATING A BUILDING FOR A YEAR, BUT ALL OF THE PROJECTIONS SHOW THAT WE ARE EITHER GOING TO BE COST NEUTRAL OR COST FAVORABLE.

AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO COMPARE, TO COMPARE TO OUR CURRENT SITUATION, WE WILL BE EITHER COST NEUTRAL OR COST FAVORABLE.

THIS FIRST YEAR WILL BE A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE BECAUSE IT'S A STARTUP YEAR AND WE'VE GOT TWO PARTNERS.

BUT ONCE WE GET PAST THAT PIECE OF THIS STUB YEAR, WE'LL BE IN A GREAT PLACE.

SO THE ONLY THING THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO JUST DOUBLE CHECK ON IS THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT WILL STILL NEED TO BE STILL NEED TO HAVE FUNDING FOR LARGE ANIMALS.

CAUSE THEY, THEY STILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH LOOSE COWS AND DOGS.

YEAH.

THAT'S THAT'S, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S PART OF HIS CONTRACT.

THAT LINE ITEM THAT'S IN THERE NOW.

IT'S NOT.

SO I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS.

AND HE'S STILL THE MONEY COME FROM KAREN.

WHERE DOES, WHEN THEY HAVE A BIG ANIMAL TO DEAL WITH? BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES IT'S PROBABLY NOT A COST INVOLVED, RIGHT? I MEAN, NO, WELL THEY GOTTA PAY THE COWBOYS OR SOMETHING.

WE, WE HAVE A SPECIAL FUND THAT WE IN MY CELL I'M LOCKING THE ART.

SO WE PUT IT IN THERE.

IT IS IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

YES.

OKAY.

YEAH.

HE STILL WILL COVER THE COST OF HIS OFFICERS.

SO THEY'RE THERE, THEY'RE THERE IN HIS BUDGET NOW THAT WILL STAY IN HIS BUDGET AS WELL AS HIS VEHICLE AND THEN THE COST OF THE VEHICLE.

BUT THE WAY IT'S SET UP IS THEY IT'LL BE, IT'LL BE DROP-OFF AND GO AT THIS MOVING FORWARD.

SO, WHICH IS WHAT THE SHERIFF WANTS.

IT IS.

WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT CONTRACT IS STILL UNDER NEGOTIATION.

WE'RE WAITING ON THEM TO GET THE FINAL NUMBERS BACK TO US, BUT THAT'S, I BELIEVE WE'VE GOT IT COVERED.

SO, ALL RIGHT.

FOR 22ND, UH, AGAIN, JUST ADJUSTMENTS, IF YOU KNOW, THIS WAS KIND OF A PR FROM THAT BASE.

SO DOWN 18,000, MAURA IS OUR COLLECTIONS DEPARTMENT.

UM, BRANDY, THAT DOESN'T LOOK RIGHT.

WELL MAYBE THERE WAS NO JUDGE.

WE ONLY ADJUSTMENTS MADE THEN WERE TWO SALARIES.

THERE WERE NO OPERATING COSTS, ADJUSTMENTS.

THAT'S WHAT THAT IS.

THEN SAY THAT.

YEAH.

SO SALARY AT 1 97, 6 34 WOULD HAVE A COST, BUT IT COVERED ANY AT SALARY ADJUSTMENTS.

THERE ARE NO OPERATING COSTS OUTSIDE OF SALARIES.

THAT'S WHY IT'S ZERO.

OKAY.

ON THE NOTES, IT SAYS ALL EXPENSES FROM THE BUDGET ARE GOOD TO REMAIN THE SAME.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THAT'S THAT'S WHY IT'S ALL ZEROS.

HMM.

DISTRICT ATTORNEY.

I'M GOING TO PAUSE THERE AND GIVE JUDGE A CHANCE TO SPEAK HERE.

CAUSE I KNOW SHE WANTED TO ADDRESS THE COURT.

I DON'T THINK SHE'S JUST OVER HERE JUST TO KEEP THIS COMPANY, THIS COMPANY AND MAKE US SMILE.

MAYBE SHE'S HERE FOR THE ENTERTAINMENT POSSIBLY.

I THINK THAT'S LOADED BECAUSE IF I SAY, I THINK THAT'S LOADED.

OKAY.

UM, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T KNOW THIS WHEN I, AND I APPRECIATE Y'ALL APPROVING THE BUDGET.

I DIDN'T KNOW THIS ABOUT THE FAMILY VIOLENCE ATTORNEY.

I SHOULD'VE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION THAT THOSE POSITIONS BECOME AVAILABLE IN JANUARY AND MY FAMILY VIOLENCE ATTORNEY.

THAT'S A GRANITE POSITION I NEED THAT REALLY BE FILLED IN OCTOBER FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS.

THE ATTORNEY THAT'S IN THAT POSITION NOW BE FINE.

IT'D BE HARD IS GOING TO BE GONE BECAUSE SHE'S HAVING A BABY.

SO IF I DON'T GET THAT NEW POSITION, I THINK I MIGHT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH GETTING ALL THE GRANT INFORMATION IN.

SO I DO NEED IT A QUARTER SOONER THAN THE JANUARY TIMEFRAME.

AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WE'VE, WE'RE FINISHED IN THIS GRANT CYCLE AND THIS OTHER PERSON IS ADDED AND YOU GUYS WERE PAYING FOR IT IN JANUARY, BUT I WANT TO BE AN EXCEPTION TO THE RULE AND HAVE THIS NEW PERSON HIRED IN OCTOBER.

AND IT A HOPE THAT IT WILL BE AN EASY ADJUSTMENT BECAUSE I HOPE THAT I CAN.

I LIKE HIRING PEOPLE WITHIN THE OFFICE THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR TWO OR THREE YEARS.

IT'S AN ENTRY-LEVEL FELONY POSITION.

THAT'S KIND OF DOING SOME OF THE WORK ALREADY AND THAT WE WANT TO BRING SOMEBODY IN.

SO IT SHOULD BE EASY, WHICH MEANS THAT THEY BUMP UP AND

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THEN I HAVE TO HIRE MISDEMEANOR PERSON.

SO THAT IS SOMETHING I DIDN'T REALIZE I WASN'T PAYING ATTENTION.

SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF ADJUSTMENT BECAUSE IT ADDS MONEY.

THAT'S NOT IN THIS NUMBER.

NO, SIR.

JANUARY.

WHAT'S THE IMPACT ON THE CHOSEN THREE? UM, IT'S LIKE BRANDY MIGHT HAVE HER SHEET.

RIGHT.

BUT, UH, SHE'S 20 SOMETHING.

YEAH, BECAUSE THE GRANT IS ACTUALLY MORE CAUSE THIS PERSON'S COMING IN UNDER THAT GRANT POSITION.

WHEN THIS PRINTS OFF, I HAVE TO BE REALLY HONEST WITH Y'ALL.

I NEVER WORKED GLASSES, BUT THIS IS TRASHY.

HE'S JUST LIKE THE SMALLEST LITTLE RIDE IN HERE, BUT SHE'S JUST FILLING HER POSITION WHEN SHE NOPE, NO, SIR.

YOU GUYS APPROVED A SECOND FAMILY VIOLENCE ATTORNEY.

ASHLEY IS GOING TO BE THE SENIOR PERSON.

THIS IS GOING TO BE A TOTALLY NEW PERSON.

AND SO THAT SALARY I HAD IT HERE IS I THINK 73, JUST LIKE KAREN SAID, BUT I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE BECAUSE IT'S NOT ON THIS ORIGINAL.

YEAH.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

THAT'S RIGHT.

SHE SAID 22,000 TO 80, WHICH IS REALLY THE 73.

YES MA'AM AND THAT'S THE BASE SALARY AND WHOEVER IT IS, YOU'RE A NEW PERSON.

THEY WOULDN'T GET QUALIFIED FOR INSURANCE FOR 60 DAYS ANYWAY.

SO YOU'RE ONLY LOOKING AT ONE MONTHS.

RIGHT.

AND EVEN KAREN, IF I BRING IN THREE, HIRE SOMEBODY NEW, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? THE NEW PERSON THAT COMES UP, IT'S GOING TO BE NEW.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET SALARY AND BENEFITS.

I MEAN THE BENEFITS PACKAGE TOO.

SO IT'S THE SAME NEUTRAL.

SO IT'S JUST THE SALARY AND NOT THE BENEFITS.

SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, CAUSE IT COULD BE SOMEBODY ALREADY, BUT IT'S STILL, THERE'LL BE ONE NEW PERSON.

SO THE ROUND NUMBER IS $25,000 AND THAT'S AUTHORIZED OR TELL JERRY TO PUT THAT IN.

OKAY.

BRANDY GOT THAT.

OKAY.

YEAH.

THANK YOU, JUDGE GO BRANDY.

BUT THEY THANK YOU.

OKAY.

OKAY.

I'VE GOT ANOTHER QUESTION.

I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S MONEY, BUT I'M JUST, I'M JUST GONNA ASK YOU THIS.

SO MOVING FORWARD, I WANT TO RESTRUCTURE MY OFFICE A LITTLE BIT.

I'VE NEVER HAD A FIRST ASSISTANT.

WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE, WE HAVE A CIVIL CHIEF AND A CRIMINAL TRIAL CHIEF, BUT I WANT TO HAVE A FIRST ASSISTANT.

I THINK THAT PERSON WILL GET PAID MORE.

THAT'S ALREADY EXISTING.

I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE WERE JUST REALLY BUSY.

WE'RE FIXING TO HIT THE REALLY BUSY TRIAL SEASON AFTER SUMMER BREAK AND BEFORE CHRISTMAS.

SO I WANT TO MAKE THAT TRANSITION IN JANUARY, BUT I WANTED TO SIGNPOST YOU CAUSE I'M GOING TO BE BACK HERE IN JANUARY WITH THAT REQUEST.

I THINK THAT ADDITIONAL TASKS THE PERSON'S ALREADY DOING IT.

IT'S ABOUT A $12,000 ASK.

AND I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I THINK THE OFFICE NEEDS TO BE RESTRUCTURED THAT WAY.

AND AS WE DO THAT IN JANUARY, AND THEN WE MOVE INTO ANOTHER NEW BUILDING, IT'S GOING TO ASSIST THE WAY THINGS HAPPEN IN THE OFFICE.

SO I'M NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING, BUT I'M JUST WARMING YOU UP.

OKAY.

SO NOT, NOT, NOT, YOU'RE NOT SUGGESTING A BRAND NEW POSITION YOU'RE JUST AT GOING TO CONVERT AN EXISTING TO RIGHT.

AND WHAT I'M GOING TO, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN OVER TIME BECAUSE WE'RE, I CAN SEE A TAT AND I WE'RE GROWING THAT, THAT MAY CREATE ANOTHER, SOMEBODY WILL MOVE UP, NOT NOW, BUT OVER IN 22, 23, CREATE YET ANOTHER CHIEF TO REPLACE THAT LAST CHIEF.

AND SO I'M TRYING TO STEP THIS.

SO IT'S NOT A BIG ASK AND THE OFFICE HASN'T GROWN TOO FAST, BUT IF YOU KNOW WHAT I'M THINKING ABOUT, I'M NEVER, YOU KNOW, THE FORMER OFFICES HAD A FIRST ASSISTANT, SO THE MONEY WAS A LOT HIGHER, BUT WHERE WE WERE AND I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK DOWN THAT WHOLE RABBIT HOLE OF 2013, IT WAS BETTER TO, AND THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT THEN WAS VERY RECEPTIVE TO BRING SALARIES UP FOR THE DA'S OFFICE THEY'D BEEN THROUGH SO MUCH.

I TOOK THAT EXTRA POSITION AND MOVED A LOT OF MONEY AROUND.

KAREN WAS HERE, MCCLOUD KAREN M.

AND WE WORKED WITH IT WITHOUT REALLY MUCH FUSS.

I MEAN, PEOPLE STAYED ON WHEN PEOPLE WERE TRYING TO KILL THEM.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WORTH A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'RE, WE'RE THROUGH THAT.

WE NEED THAT POSITION AND THE PERSON IS DOING THE WORK ALREADY.

SO I JUST WANT Y'ALL TO KNOW THAT.

SO WHEN I COME BACK, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, CAUSE IT'S NOT AN EMERGENCY.

KAREN M SO IS IT BETTER TO DO IT? TALK ABOUT IT NOW AS NOW,

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YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? BECAUSE REALLY YOU DON'T AMEND THE BUDGET UNLESS YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY SUBSTANTIALLY CHANGED.

CAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.

WHEN I WAS SITTING THERE ON MY PHONE DOING OTHER WORK THAT PEOPLE COME IN HERE, THEY AMEND THE BUDGET, THEY REQUEST.

AND I, IT MAKES SENSE TO ME.

I WOULD, YOU SHE'S ALWAYS BEEN PRETTY GENEROUS.

AND WHEN SHE CAME UP WITH THIS AND THEN THE YEAR, USUALLY SHE ALWAYS HAD MONEY AND I DID PAY FOR IT FOR THAT YEAR.

AND SO WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT MAYBE THE 23RD, I MEAN, 2020 COULD.

BUT, BUT I THINK IT'S WHEN YOU START ANY, I JUST, JUST BY THE CYCLE OF THE OFFICE, HAVEN'T DONE IT SO MUCH.

YOU, YOU DON'T NEED TO DO NO, BUT YOU CAN MOVE IT UP.

AND IF YOU HAD FUNDS TO PAY FOR IT, THEN BE THERE.

AND THEN WE COULD, WE COULD PENCIL IN, IN THE 2020S.

YEAH.

AND CAUSE YOU KNOW, IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.

WE ARE, WE ARE IN, UH, SOMEONE ASKED ME AND I ALWAYS KIND OF BRAG.

THEY SAY, OH, ARE YOU HAVING PROBLEMS? HIRING PEOPLE BECAUSE IT'S A GOOD ECONOMY.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, PRIVATE FIRM, WE CAN'T COMPETE WITH THAT.

SO WHEN IT'S A BAD ECONOMY AND THEY'RE LAYING OFF PEOPLE AT THE FIRMS, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, WE SCRAMBLE, WE SCRAMBLE IT MORE.

BUT WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT REALLY LIKE WORKING IN COFFEE COUNTY.

I THINK THEY LIKE WORKING FOR ME.

YOU KNOW? I MEAN REALLY WE TALK ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, KINDA, AND I'LL TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GOT ANYBODY, SEND THEM MY WAY.

CAUSE YOU KNOW, WHO WOULDN'T WANT TO WORK IN, ROCKWELL'S POSTED COFFIN, BUT YOU'D BE SURPRISED.

SO WE GET PEOPLE, WE TRADE PEOPLE AROUND, WE CALL OTHER PLACES, ELLIS COUNTY.

SO I'M JUST SAYING IN Y'ALL KNOW THAT YOU, YOU, YOU CAN'T COMPETE WITH THE PRIVATE WORLD, BUT WE DO NEED TO COMPETE WITH THE OTHER COUNTIES.

I MEAN, ELLIS COUNTY WAS WEARING ME OUT FOR A WHILE, BUT I THINK WE'VE KIND OF PUT A STOP ON THAT.

OKAY.

THAT'S ALL I HAD.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

YEAH.

WE CAN PLACE HOLD IT.

AND JUDGES LIKE I DON'T DON'T MOVE THAT MONEY.

DON'T DON'T PUT ANY MONEY IN THERE.

DON'T PUT ANY MONEY IN THERE.

I'M STILL THINKING ABOUT THAT 2.1 MILLION.

SO I MISSED THE 2.1 MILLION 2.3.

THE LISTING OF $6,000 FOR RECENT BOOKS.

IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WALL LIBRARY CAN BUY THAT FOR YOU TO HELP OUT? I KNOW YOU DO A LOT OF THIS.

UM, WE HAVE, WE HAVE BEAT THAT, YOU KNOW, AROUND A LOT BECAUSE THAT LIBRARY FUND IS HUGE, BUT THE PURPOSES ARE VERY LIMITED.

SO THE IT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

NOW HERE'S THE ONLY THING THAT I CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY CAN DO FOR US.

AND IT WOULD DO FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY, ANY BOOK THAT'S IN THE LIBRARY HAS TO BE ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY.

OKAY.

GOT IT.

ALL LAWYERS BETTER GO TO COURT BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW ENOUGH WHAT THE LAW.

OKAY.

IT'S A LEGISLATIVE YEAR AND THEY WERE BUSY THIS YEAR.

SO IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THEY'RE NOT BUSY, BUT THEY WERE.

AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF LEGISLATIVE CHANGES TO TAKE.

AND I WANT EVERYBODY TO HAVE A BOOK, BUT THERE ARE SOME BOOKS THAT I ALWAYS TRY TO BE MINDFUL OF LIKE PRACTICE MANUALS, THINGS THAT PEOPLE ASK BECAUSE SOME OF THE NEW KIDS COMING IN AND THEY GOT $300 WORTH OF BOOKS.

I'M LIKE, YOU DON'T NEED ALL THAT.

YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW.

SO JUST GET A CODE, A CRIMINAL CODE.

IF YOU'RE DOING CIVIL, GET A CIVIL CODE FOR DOING AND FAMILY, GET A FAMILY CODE.

AND SOMETIMES I ASKED THE LIBRARY TO BUY THESE OTHER BOOKS AND THEN THEY CAN GO CHECK THEM OUT.

BUT I'LL DEFINITELY BE MINDFUL OF THAT.

UH, WE WENT ASKED MORE.

I THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO, TO T TO KEEP SOME OF THAT MONEY, PUT THAT MONEY BACK TO YOU GUYS ARE MOVING AROUND FOR THAT POSITION BECAUSE WE'RE JUST CONCERNED THAT WE JUST WON'T HAVE ENOUGH BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S, IT'S GOING TO BE A BUSY YEAR WITH THE NEW LAW.

THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION THOUGH.

RIGHT? ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S TRUE.

UH, DISTRICT CLERK, REALLY, THE NET IS ABOUT 1,560 BUCKS.

SO YEAR OVER YEAR, IT'S GOING TO KEEP GOING THROUGH THESE, OKAY.

PRETRIAL, RANDY, I THINK YOU GOT THIS ONE ALL STRAIGHTENED OUT.

SO WHAT HE'S WRITTEN DID AND EXACTLY HOW WE ENDED UP JOHNNY CAME BACK TO US AND SAY, I'D LIKE TO CHANGE THIS UP A LITTLE BIT.

SO WHAT, RANDY, MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME CAPTURE WHAT HE'S ACTUALLY DOING.

SO HE'S GO DOWN A LITTLE BIT ON THAT.

SCROLL DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT ON THAT, PLEASE.

I DON'T THINK WHAT HE'S ACTUALLY DOING IS WHAT HE'S GOT WRITTEN IN HERE.

SO WHERE DID WE END UP? WHERE DID WE END UP WITH JOHNNY'S DEPARTMENT? SO THE KEY IS

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EXPENSE, BUT THREE LINE ITEMS THAT SAFE, PCB, WHATEVER, UM, THAT WAS $5,870 THAT IS FULLY REIMBURSED BY THE DA'S DIVERSION FUND THAT WAS CREATED THIS YEAR.

OKAY.

AND THEN ONE OF HIS POSITIONS, UM, ONE OF HIS, THE SUPER BOND SUPERVISOR POSITION OFFICER IS FULLY REIMBURSED BY THE DA'S OFFICE AS WELL.

IT WON'T BE NEXT YEAR.

THIS YEAR, THE, UM, HALF OF THE QUARTER, UM, WAS REFUNDED, UH, REIMBURSED.

IT WILL NO LONGER BE REIMBURSED NEXT YEAR ROCK WOULD YOU KNOW WHAT ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO STAY? PRETRIAL DIVERSION WILL CONTINUE TO BE PAID TOP PAID FOR BY PRETRIAL DIVERSION.

IT WON'T BE LIKE THOSE OTHER POSITIONS THAT I HELPED START BECAUSE THOSE OTHER POSITIONS WERE BEING SPLIT BECAUSE THEY WERE DOING SOME PRETRIAL DIVERSION, BUT MOSTLY PRETRIAL SERVICES.

SO I THINK THE LADY THAT'S IN THAT POSITION, MERRIAM, YES, SOMEBODY OVER THERE IS GOING TO ULTIMATELY HOPE AND BE ABLE TO MONITOR ALL OF OUR PRETRIAL DIVERSION PEOPLE.

SO I'LL CONTINUE TO PAY FOR THAT SUPPLIES.

I THINK THE OFFICE PIPE, WE PAY FOR ALL THE STARTUP COSTS.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, BETTER THAN I DO ABOUT IT, WHATEVER I VOLUNTEERED TO DO, BUT IT'S, BUT INSTEAD OF PUSHING THAT BACK OVER TO PRETRIAL SERVICES, WE HAVE RAMPED UP OUR PRETRIAL DIVERSION.

AND SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE TO SERVICE THOSE, UM, UH, APPLICANTS.

SO WE HOPE TO HAVE EVEN BE MORE AGGRESSIVE WITH IT.

SO AS WE GROW AND IF THEY HAPPEN TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF PRETRIAL SERVICES, WORK IS MO LONG AS THE MAJORITY OF IT IS PRETRIAL DIVERSION.

SO WE'RE AT ONE PERSON.

NOW, IF THE PROGRAM CONTINUES TO PAY FOR ITSELF, WE MIGHT GET TO TWO BECAUSE I SEE THAT IN THE FUTURE.

AND HE DID ASK FOR A NEW POSITION STRICTLY ON HIS OWN, ON THE PRETRIAL DIVERSION OR PRETRIAL SERVICES, CORRECT.

WHICH ONE SERVICES, RIGHT? AND THE DISTINCTION IS THE PRE-TRIAL SERVICES MONITORING.

EVERYBODY THAT'S PLACED ON BOND BY THE COURTS AND THE JPS PRETRIAL DIVERSION IS WORKING AN APPLICATION THROUGH US THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN HELP THAT PERSON BEFORE THEY GET A CONVICTION.

AND THEN THEY'RE COMING THROUGH OUR OFFICE.

THAT PROGRAM USED TO BE RUN THROUGH PROBATION, BUT WE ARE NOW RUNNING THAT PROGRAM UNIQUELY ALL OUR OWN, THE DA'S OFFICE CAN DO THAT.

AND WE JUST PICK THAT UP AND DID IT BECAUSE PRO ADULT PROBATION WAS HAVING TO SPEND THEIR RESOURCES AND IT WAS TOO TIME CONSUMING.

SO WE'VE DONE THAT IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS YEAR.

AND KAREN M HELPED US SET IN THAT BUDGET UP IN YOU, AND IT WILL BE A WASH.

AND THAT NEW POSITION IS JANUARY START, CORRECT YESTERDAY.

SO THE NET NET OF THIS IS ACTUALLY WE REWORKED, IT ACTUALLY WENT DOWN FROM THE ORIGINAL REQUEST.

AND SO WE, WE, WE GOT, WE THINK WE HAVE IT ALL BALANCED OUT NOW.

SO IT'S ACTUALLY LESS THAN WHAT IT WAS ASKING FOR UP FRONT.

AND LET ME ASK YOU THIS, JERRY, THE PRE-TRIAL SERVICES PERSON HE'S ASKING FOR STARTS IN JANUARY, ALL THOSE NEW POSITIONS TOO.

I MEAN, UNLESS THEY WANT TO, WHY DOES A PRETRIAL DIVERSION PERSON IT'S, I'M PAYING FOR? I THINK IT'S JUST A THING.

IT'S JUST THE PRETRIAL SERVICES PERSON, BUT THE SERVICE PERSON THAT'S DIFFERENT.

THAT'S COUNTING MONEY THEY HAVE IS PRETRIAL DIVERSION.

WE CAN START IT.

PRETRIAL DIVERSION IS FROM MY UNDERSTANDING IS MIRIAM JONES, WHICH IS ALREADY THERE.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

BUT HE DIDN'T ASK FOR ANOTHER PERSON YET.

NO, THAT'S COMING THE FOLLOWING YEAR FUNDED IN THE FIRST GO AROUND.

RIGHT.

THE FIRST GO AROUND WHERE WE APPROVED ALL THOSE VERY FIRST GRINDING LIKE LAST YEAR OR ARE YOU MEAN THIS BUDGET? YEAH.

YEAH.

YES.

I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT I'M TOUCHING.

RIGHT.

SO HOLD ON.

LET ME, LET ME RUN THROUGH THIS REAL QUICK.

I'M SURE I CAN FIND SOMETHING.

WELL, I, I KINDA, I'M GONNA GO REAL SLOW.

I CAN REBUILD FAST.

CAUSE I'M SMART.

I HAVE CORDS JPS CONSTABLES, JUDGE.

MA'AM WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THAT TOMORROW.

THANK YOU.

SO THIS IS, THIS IS JUDGE BLAIR'S COURT.

REALLY? WE JUST, WE JUST, IT'S JUST THIS.

WE ALREADY APPROVED THIS.

AND SO IS THAT GOING FROM A FULL-TIME POSITION TO, I MEAN, A PART-TIME POSITION TO A FULL-TIME POSITION.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN BAKED INTO THAT MATH, UM, THOSE CERTIFICATIONS THAT ARE ALREADY KIND OF PART OF THE FLOW.

SO THEY JUST KIND OF HAPPEN WHEN THEY COME THROUGH THAT ONE'S PROBABLY ALREADY BEEN DONE.

HASN'T IT JUST THIS THOUGHT ME OR POKE AT ME IF I BELIEVE ANYTHING Y'ALL WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS.

SO, AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I GO THROUGH EVERY ONE OF THESE AND, AND BRING THEM UP.

OKAY.

SO WE GOT JP 1, 2, 3,

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AND FOUR.

THEY'RE ALL BASICALLY THE SAME, UM, FROM, FROM THEIR COST STRUCTURES, THEY ALL A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, THEY TYPICALLY, THEY DEFINITELY MIRROR EACH OTHER AS WE GO THROUGH THEM.

UM, SO WE DO HAVE ONE OF THESE THAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT A LITTLE MORE DETAIL NEXT WEEK, BUT THEY'RE ALL THEIR OVERALL COSTS.

IF YOU LOOK AT THEIR, THEIR REQUEST, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THEY ASKED FOR THAT SALARY PIECE OF IT.

OUTSIDE OF THAT, THERE WERE JUST SMALL ADJUSTMENTS TO OFFICE SUPPLIES.

THEY WERE ALL VERY, VERY MINOR.

MOST ALL THEIR BUDGETS YEAR OVER YEAR ARE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME WITH THE EXCEPTION OF WHATEVER CHANGES WE'VE MADE TO PAYROLL ALREADY.

SO THAT 1%, SO YOU COULD SEE WHAT THE IMPACT OF THAT LOOK WELL, WASN'T THERE AN NASH, A JP FOR ABOUT, UH, A SALARY FOR A CLERK.

THERE WAS A BUMP, A BONUS FOR OUR CLERK.

DID WE PUT THAT IN THERE? BRANDON? THE REQUEST WAS FOR THE TWO PART-TIME THE PART-TIME DEPUTY AND THE PART-TIME CLERK.

THIS IS JP.

THIS IS JP CONSTABLE.

THIS IS FOR THE, UH, THE PERSON WHO WAS BILINGUAL.

WE DID PUT THAT IN THERE.

WE STARTING IN JANUARY.

YES.

SO THERE WAS A REQUEST, SORRY.

AND WE DON'T DO THAT FOREVER.

I THINK THAT EMPLOYEE LEFT OR ABOUT TO LEAVE, BUT SHE DID.

SHE DID.

SO THAT'S MUTE.

THAT'S WHY THAT'S MUTE.

SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WE, WE PUT IT IN THERE FOR, FOR, UH, A PERSON THAT SPEAKS SPANISH BILINGUAL.

LET ME, LET ME, I MEAN, IF WE DO THEN, DO WE NOT SAYING THAT EVERY SINGLE DAY, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.

I THINK THAT IF THAT PERSON IS ALREADY GONE THAT PERSON, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT SHOULD BE A PROGRAM THAT THAT'S INDIVIDUALLY DESIGNATED.

IF WE, I SEE THAT ALMOST AS MORE OF A CERTIFICATION TYPE SUPPLEMENT.

IF, IF WE DEEM THAT THERE'S A NEED FOR A BILINGUAL CERTIFIED BILINGUAL CERTIFIED BILINGUAL, THEN THAT, THAT OUGHT TO BE A SEPARATE CERTIFICATION PAY THAT'S AVAILABLE TO WHATEVER DEPARTMENT.

WELL, AND, AND IT ALL WOULD JUST BE A JOB TITLE IF THEY NEEDED NATE'S OFFICE AND THEY OUGHT TO HIRE THAT POSITION.

AND I TOLD THE JUDGE THAT I SAID THAT I THINK THAT WE OUGHT TO QUALIFY THE JOB FOR THAT.

SO IF YOU, IF ONE CLERK IN THERE IS BILINGUAL AND THEY HAVE THAT POSITION, THEN THEY NEED TO FILL IT WITH A BILINGUAL CLERK.

YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? JUST THAT JOB JUST PAYS THAT IN THE JOB DESCRIPTION.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

I MEAN, AND IT JUST, AND, BUT IF IT NEEDS TO BE MORE PAY THAN IT NEEDS TO BE MORE PAINFUL BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING TWO DUTIES, RIGHT.

SUGGESTING THAT THEY USED TO PAY HIM EXTRA.

WE HAD ONE, WE HAVE ONE, THE DISTRICT CLERK THAT GOT PAID AN EXTRA $2,000 BEING THE INTERPRETER.

THAT'S WHERE THEY COME FROM.

THERE'S A CERTIFICATION THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

AND SO FOR TRIAL, YEAH, FOR TRIAL, THEY HAVE TO HAVE A CERTIFIED OR OTHER, OR OTHER THINGS THAT REQUIRE OTHER, OTHER AGENCIES DO HAVE A, AGAIN, IT'S PARALLEL TO A CERTIFICATION PAY THAT THEY, THEY, THEY HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE THEIR PROFICIENT TO A CERTAIN LEVEL IN EITHER SPEAKING END OR WRITING.

AND THEN IF THEY, IF THE COUNTY UTILIZES THAT SERVICE IN THEIR DAY TO DAY, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S IN THE TAX OFFICE OR WHEREVER ELSE, THEN THAT WOULD, THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL, AGAIN, LIKE A CERTIFICATION BONUS, BECAUSE WE PAY EXTRA TO BE ABLE IN THE NORMAL COURSE OF BUSINESS, NOT A CERTIFIED JUDICIAL PROCEEDING TO BE ABLE TO INTERACT WITH SPANISH SPEAKERS.

YEAH.

BUT WE DO THE SAME THING AT DUCK AND BILL, AND THEY HAD TO TAKE A TEST FOR THE READING AND THE WRITING.

RIGHT.

AND THEN THEY GOT RATED BASED ON THEIR RATINGS WHERE THEY, THERE WAS AN AGENCY THAT THEY PAID THE STAFF, RIGHT.

IT'S UH, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT THAT'S HOW OTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCIES DO IT.

THEY, YOU KNOW, IF, IF MANAGEMENT DETERMINES THERE'S A NEED FOR RECURRING SPANISH SPEAKERS, WHICH I THINK THEY'RE JUST ABOUT IN EVERY PLACE THAT WE TOUCH, THE POINT PROBABLY IS THEN, UH, MANAGEMENT DETERMINES HOW MANY OF THOSE SPANISH SPEAKERS THEY NEED.

AND THEN ANYONE THAT PASSES THE TEST, IF YOU WILL, AND, AND IS, UH, SHALL WE SAY A CREDITOR THEN HAS A SPANISH SPEAKER AS A SPANISH COMMUNICATOR, THEN THAT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL STIPEND ON THEIR SALARY.

IF I COULD SUGGEST TO THE COURT AND THIS ISN'T, THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT TIME TO DO IT, BUT YET WE HAD THE BUDGET PROCESS.

THEN WE HAVE OPEN ENROLLMENT.

BUT WHAT I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST IS I THINK WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW ALL OF OUR JOB DESCRIPTIONS THAT ARE IN OUR CURRENT PORTFOLIO.

SOME OF THEM WERE VERY DATED.

SOME OF THEM ARE OUTDATED.

AND SO I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO TASK THE HR TEAM TO GO THROUGH THESE, THESE POSITION DESCRIPTIONS, IF YOU WILL, AND WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND RECRAFT SOME OF THEM, AND THEN BRING

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ALL THOSE BACK TO COURT AND LET THE COURT LOOK AT THEM AND APPROVE THEM.

WE'RE WORKING ON THIS A LITTLE BIT.

WE, WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN COUNTY THAT, THAT ARE THEIR JOB IS ONE DESCRIPTION, BUT THEY'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING.

WE MIGHT NOT.

WE, WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE, WE HAVE ENOUGH, WE HAVE ENOUGH DISCREPANCY AND OPPORTUNITY THERE.

I BELIEVE IT WARRANTS SOME WORK, BUT WE NEED TO DO THAT LIFTING WHEN WE'RE OUT.

I THINK THAT IS PART OF A BIGGER HR THING, BECAUSE WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT EVEN WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, UH, WHERE THE SHERIFF, UH, MADE NOT HERE IN COURT, BUT HE MADE A SEPARATE, UH, PRESENTATION THAT I KNOW HE DID TO ME.

AND MAYBE SOME OTHERS THAT THERE NEEDED TO BE A STIPEND IF YOU WILL, FOR A FIELD TRAINING POSITION.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, I'M JUST GENERICALLY CALLING THOSE SOME SORT OF CERTIFICATION PAY.

BUT, UH, I THINK, UH, I THINK THAT'D BE APPROPRIATE TO LOOK AT ALL THAT THROUGH THE EYES OF AN HR AND NEWTON AMENDMENTS TO POSITION DESCRIPTION.

OKAY.

THAT'S MY 2 CENTS.

WELL, I MEAN, BUT, BUT W WHEN I SAID THE JOB DESCRIPTION IN THE APS OFFICES, I THINK THAT SHE DIDN'T HAVE THAT POSITION, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT IF YOU HAVE THREE CLERKS IN THERE, IF FOR SOME COINCIDENTAL NAIL, THEY HIRED THREE SPANISH SPEAKING AND SHE QUIT CLERKS, ALL OF THEM DIDN'T GET TURNED BACK.

WELL, THAT'S WHY I SAID MANAGEMENT NEEDS TO TEST TO BE ABLE TO GET DECIDED.

AND THAT'S WHY MANAGEMENT DECIDES HOW MANY YOU NEED.

IT'S NOT JUST OPTIONAL, JUST BECAUSE I'M THERE SAYING, BESIDES THAT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PUT THAT EXTRA IN THERE FOR THAT LADY.

SO TAKE IT OUT NOW, I WOULD SAY, OKAY, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, BECAUSE WE'D HAVE TO PUT IT IN FOR ALL OF THEM.

I THINK BECAUSE WE HAVE SOMEBODY IN TO THE SAME WAY DIDN'T WORK.

WELL NOW I GUESS WE HAVE SOMEBODY, THAT'S THE QUESTION, I GUESS, SOMEONE ELSE TO HEAR IT, BUT SPANISH FOR LIKE COURT, THEY HAVE DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT THINGS FOR THE JAIL.

YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE, UH, FOR DIFFERENT JOB, GREAT JOB DIVERSION AND NOT BE CERTIFIED BECAUSE IT'S NOT COURT JUDGE.

I DON'T KNOW.

NO, I'M JUST SAYING, SO FOR INTERPRETERS WHEN THEY'RE IN COURT, RIGHT.

SO IT'S REALLY NICE IF THEY HAVE SPANISH SPEAKING PEOPLE IN THEIR LIFE, I PROMISE YOU, AND I KNOW THAT THE JUDGE THEN GO IN AND DO INTERPRETATION AND THE TAX OFFICE ALL THE TIME TOO.

SO, AND THEY DON'T GET PAID EXTRA FOR IT.

AND I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE THAT THERE'D BE SOME STIPEND SO THAT THE TAX OFFICE PERSON COULD DO THAT.

YEAH.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A TIME TO TALK ABOUT THAT OR NOT.

IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD, WE COULD SAY, OKAY, WE COULD GIVE THAT AWAY TO EACH PRECINCT ONE TIME, IF THEY HAD A QUALIFIED PLACE TO GO TAKE A TEST AND WE COULD, WE COULD PROBABLY ADD THAT HAPPENED ANYTIME DURING THE YEAR, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? DOWN THE ROAD.

SO, BUT WE OUGHT TO KEEP THAT WHEN YOU GET AN HR PART, OKAY, DON'T DO IT NOW.

NO, NO, I WASN'T SAYING DO IT NOW.

I SAID, I DON'T KNOW WHEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT.

I SAID, SO, SO THE NEXT TWO JUDICIAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AND JURY EXPENSE, I DIDN'T PUT ANY CHANGE IN THERE.

THEY'D BEEN TRACKING ABOUT WHERE THEY ARE.

AGAIN, I'LL CALIBRATE WITH THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE.

WE'LL SEE IF WE NEED TO MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS THERE.

THEY WOULDN'T BE SIGNIFICANT IN THOSE AREAS.

THERE'S STILL ONE IN JUDICIAL AND LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT DOES INCLUDE YOUR ARMY TRANSPORTS.

AND SO WE HAD, NO, WE HAD SOME, SOME THINGS CHANGE IN THAT ARENA IN THE LAST BIT.

SO AGAIN, I'LL JUST CALIBRATE WITH, WITH KAREN'S OFFICE AND IF ANY ADJUSTMENTS THERE, THEY WOULD BE, THEY WOULD BE MINOR.

SO NOTHING TO ALARM, UH, ELECTIONS EXPENSE.

I'M NOT GOING TO CLICK ON ALL THESE ELECTRIC EXPENSE THAT I HAD TO ADD IN THE FULL SALARY OF A DIRECTOR AND THEN THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT DIRECTOR.

SO THERE'S, THERE'S A, THERE'S ONE OTHER TRAINING.

SHE HAS, UH, SHE HAS A DIFFERENT, SHE HAS A, A HIGHER LEVEL OF CERTIFICATION THAN WHAT WE HAD IN THE PAST.

AND SO THAT CERTIFICATION REQUIRES ANNUAL TRAINING.

SO THAT THAT'S PART OF, PART OF THE DOLLARS.

ANOTHER OFFICE SET UP ANOTHER COMPUTER, ALL, ALL THAT'S THE COST OF THAT OFFICE ARE IN HERE.

SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE ELECTIONS EXPENSES.

YES.

YES.

I MEAN, WE HAVEN'T REALLY TALKED ABOUT THIS A WHOLE LOT, BUT IS THERE ENOUGH IN THE BUDGET FOR WHENEVER SHE GETS IN THERE AND SHE, MOST TO REALIGN OR DEPARTMENT, OR MAKE SOME CHANGES AFTER SHE GETS IN HERE AND GETS HER FEET WET.

AND IS THERE SOME LATITUDE FINANCIALLY FIRE TO THERE'S SOME, BUT TO WORK FOR CHANGES? ARE THERE SOME THERE'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, I MET WITH THE COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE RULE WAS I'LL TALK WITH THE RULE WAS WE HAD TO PROVIDE THEM AT LEAST THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE HAD BUDGETED TO OPERATE THE DEPARTMENT BEFORE.

SO IN ADVANCE OF THAT, WHEN IT CAME TO BUDGETING, I SAT DOWN WITH BOTH BRENDA AND THERESA AND LOOKED AT ANY BLIND SPOTS I HAD MET WITH THE AUDITOR AND THE AUDITOR ACTUALLY THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO COME AT ABOUT 90% OF THEIR BUDGET.

SO WE HAD ABOUT A 10 PLUS SURPLUS, 10, 10,

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10% SURPLUS IN THEIR BUDGETS.

SO HAVING SAID THAT THOUGHT, WELL, THERE'S SOME WIGGLE ROOM THERE.

I DID MEET WITH THE ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR ON HER FIRST WEEK ON THE ONBOARDING.

SHE TOTALLY AGREES WITH THE STAFFING.

THAT'S IN THERE FROM THE MIX OF THE STAFFING.

I DID MEET WITH FACILITIES MANAGEMENT.

WE ARE GOING TO DO SOME UPGRADES TO AN OFFICE THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CURRENT BUDGET.

WE'RE GOING TO DO ALL THAT THIS YEAR.

AND THEN WE ALSO COVERED A LITTLE BIT OF OTHER EXPENSES AFTER MEETING WITH THE AUDITOR THAT WE THOUGHT WE COULD DO LINE ITEM TRANSFERS AND GET SOME OF THOSE ONE-OFFS OUT OF THE GATE.

YOU KNOW, A NEW DESK, A NEW CHAIR.

I KNEW THIS, WE'VE GOT ALL THAT COVERED THIS YEAR.

SO HAVE A, A GOOD LEVEL OF COMPETENCE THAT NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET IS SET UP TO OPERATE.

WELL, WHAT WE DON'T KNOW.

AND ACTUALLY SHE COMES BACK TOMORROW WITH LED.

THIS IS WHEN YOU HAVE LEGISLATION.

THERE'S ALWAYS LEGISLATION.

THAT IMPACTS IMPACTS VOTERS AND IN OF VOTER REGISTRATION AND ALL THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS.

IF SOMETHING COMES BACK OUT OF LEGISLATION, THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY, THE ONLY HICCUP THAT I COULD SEE THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING ON BALLOT COST OR MAILING BALLOTS, SAMPLES, HEADS HANDLING CLASS IN THE ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT FOR HER TO GO TO.

AND WHEN YOU HIRED THE NEW ELECTION ADMINISTRATOR, SHE KEPT THAT POSITION AND TRANSFERRED IT TO HER.

SO SHE COULD GO TO SCHOOL.

SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS EXCELLENT.

THAT'S WHERE THEY, THAT'S WHERE SHE'S BEEN ALL THIS WEEK.

AND SO SHE'S BACK TOMORROW TO HAMSTRING, JUST HAMSTRUNG SOMEBODY, MAN, I'M STRUGGLING THERE.

I DELIBERATELY WENT IN THERE AND BUMPED UP OFFICE SUPPLIES AND THE BALLOT COSTS AND, AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS, YOU KNOW, THAT I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE UNKNOWN AND VARIABLES OUT THERE, I PUT A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY IN THERE.

SO THAT'S WHY YOU'LL SEE THE INCREASES.

BUT OUTSIDE OF LEGISLATION, I DON'T SEE ANY, ANY GLARING REASONS IF THERE'S ANYTHING.

I MEAN, THE JUDGE HAS SAID, OH, TIME AND TIME AGAIN, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS COME ASK HIM RIGHT.

DIP IN THAT POT.

HE SAID HE HAS MONEY.

I SAID, DON'T WORRY, MAN.

I'M JUST GONNA WRITE THAT DOWN REAL QUICK.

OKAY.

SO COUNTY AUDITOR I'LL OPEN YOURS UP.

I DON'T SEE THERE WAS ACTUALLY COUNTY AUDITORS GIVEN QUITE A BIT OF MONEY BACK AS YOU WILL SEE, BECAUSE SHE, IF YOU REMEMBER, SHE SHE'S BUYING WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW WAS PAID FOR LAST YEAR.

SO ALL THE STARTUP COSTS FOR SOFTWARE WERE IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET.

THAT WAS A ONE THAT WAS A ONE-TIME HIT.

SO NOW WE JUST HAVE TO THE MAINTENANCE COSTS IN THERE.

SO HER BUDGET'S ACTUALLY GOING DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY YEAR, OVER YEAR, ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR THE AUDITOR.

UM, WE DO STILL HAVE, UM, POTENTIAL SALARY ADJUSTMENTS THERE.

SO THEY, THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY MEET WITH YOU WHEN YOU'RE MEETING WITH THE JUDGES NEXT WEEK, NEXT THURSDAY.

SO SORRY, I'M CALLING A LITTLE BIT TOO FAST FLETCHER, A HUNDRED THOUSAND, A HUNDRED THOUSAND.

SO, AND EVERYBODY ARE SEEING AGENT, UM, AGAIN, JUST ADJUSTMENTS TO THEIR BASE, RESTRUCTURING A FEW THINGS, NOTHING, NOTHING.

RIGHT.

AND IT'S DONE A VERY NICE JOB OF SCRUBBING HER BUDGET OUT.

SHE CONTINUES TO GAIN EFFICIENCIES WITHIN OTHER THINGS THAT ARE AFFECTING THE WHOLE COUNTY.

I'LL JUST, I'LL THROW THOSE OUT THERE.

THINGS LIKE MANAGING OFFICE FURNITURE MUCH, MUCH CLOSER AND MUCH BETTER MANAGING SOME OF THE COPY EXPENSES MUCH CLOSER AND BETTER.

UH, SO SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS IN POSTAGE YEAR OVER YEAR, UH, TO AN INCLUDING JUST MOST RECENTLY, UH, GOT OUT OF A CONTRACT ALONG A CONTRACT WE HAVE WITH ONE ORGANIZATION AND WENT WITH ANOTHER CONTRACT FOR A SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS YEAR OVER YEAR.

SO OUTSIDE OF THE PURCHASING AGENTS DEPARTMENT, UM, THAT DEPARTMENT DOES A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE, THAT ARE HELPING US IN OTHER ARENAS THROUGH SOME OF OUR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT.

THAT'S SO CLOSE COUNTY TREASURER.

THE ONE, THE ONE THING I KNOW, I KNOW CHUCK'S NOT HERE, BUT CHUCK DID TALK TO ME AND I DON'T WANT TO MISREPRESENT HIM.

SO MAYBE HE USED TO SAY, WELL, I'M GONNA TELL YOU WHAT I'M GOING TO WANT TO SHARE WHAT WAS TOLD TO ME.

SO WE TALKED ABOUT THIS POSITIONING FOR CARLA, AND HE'D ASK FOR, HE'D ASK FOR A LITTLE BIT OF A BUMP IN PAY PER CARLA FOR THE THINGS THAT SHE HAD DONE FOR TRAINING.

AND I DON'T KNOW THAT I, I DID IT JUSTICE WHEN I SPOKE ON HIS BEHALF.

SO I WAS JUST LIKE TO MAKE SURE I LEAVE THAT OPEN SWITCH AND GIVE CHUCK AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE COURT IF HE WANTED TO, BECAUSE SHE TRULY IS A DEPUTY TREASURER.

SO IN THE ABSENCE OF CHUCK, SHE, SHE CAN DO ALL THE DUTIES OF WHAT THAT OFFICE NEEDS FROM A, FROM A STATUE AND FROM A LEGALITY.

AND I THINK HER GOING TO THOSE CLASSES IS WHAT QUALIFIED HER TO DO THAT.

SO IT MEANS A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN JUST I WENT HERE AND DID SOMETHING.

SO I I'M, UH, I'LL TABLE THAT, BUT JUST KNOW THAT I'D LIKE TO AT LEAST MAKE SURE THE COURT KNOWS

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THAT THERE WAS A LITTLE MORE TO THAT THAN, THAN THE WAY I POSSIBLY TEED IT UP ON HIS BEHALF.

ALL RIGHT.

WE DON'T WANT TO GO OVER IT AGAIN.

WE COULD JUST GO AHEAD AND SAY, OKAY, YOU COULD JUST SAY, OKAY, AND JUST LET ME ADD THAT TO, THIS WAS NOT A CERTIFICATION DEAL.

IT WASN'T A CERTIFICATION IS THAT SHE, SHE HAD TO DO A LOT OF HEAVY LIFTING, RIGHT.

TO GO TO THIS SCHOOL, TO GET HERSELF IN A POSITION.

SO SHE WOULD HAVE ALL THE QUALIFICATIONS SHE NEEDED TO BE THAT DEPUTY TREASURER.

SURE.

IF YOU WILL, BECAUSE YOU HAVE ALL THE BOND.

YEAH.

AND THERE WAS MORE TO IT THAN WHAT I THINK I TEED UP.

SO AT THE COURT, YEAH.

WELL, IT'S REALLY AN ADDITION TO, AND IN THE END, IT'S AN ADDITION TO HER RESPONSIBILITY.

YEAH.

NO DOUBT.

NO DOUBT.

SHE SHE'S, SHE'S THE, SHE'S THE PERSON THAT TRUCK'S NOT THERE.

IT'S HER.

RIGHT.

SHE HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DO ALL THE THINGS THAT THAT WOULD NEED TO BE DONE AT AN OFFICE TO KEEP IT UP.

FISHER PHILLIPS THINKS WE SHOULD JUST GO AHEAD AND CHECK IT OFF.

WELL, I THINK, I THINK, I THINK HERE'S THE THING.

I THINK MAYBE, MAYBE APPROACHED IT A LITTLE BIT WRONG AND HE SHOULD, MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE SAID THAT SHE DID ALL THE EDUCATION AND STUFF TO BE ABLE TO DO BOND TRANSFERS AND STUFF.

JUST LIKE TO DO THEM.

SOME OF THE THINGS YOU HAVE TO DO, JUST LIKE HE DID.

SO IT'S MORE THAN HE SHE'S AN ASSISTANT TREASURER, THEN IT IS.

SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY BECAUSE YOU'RE GETTING THE SAPLING BECAUSE OF A CERTIFICATION.

LET'S JUST SAY WE COULD BUMP HER UP BECAUSE SHE IS THE ASSISTANT.

SHE CAN DO THIS DUTIES WHILE HE'S GONE.

HOW ABOUT THAT? INSTEAD OF SAYING, UM, YOU KNOW, CAUSE I'M LIKE, OH, I DON'T LIKE SAFFRONS BECAUSE EVERY PERSON GETS A CERTIFICATION BECAUSE I HAD A DRIVER DECIDED TO NOT HAVE A CDL B, HE WANTS A CLASS, A AND I DON'T REALLY NEED A CLASS, A DRIVER.

I HAVE ONE THAT TRAPPED BY THE TRAILER.

THOSE ARE ALL SAYING, I'M NOT GOING TO BUY CDL.

NO, THOSE ARE MANAGEMENT DECISIONS.

I AGREE.

THERE'S AN INCREASE IN DIESEL.

SO I HAVE THIS SAYING THAT SINCE SHE'S ASSISTANT OFFICE MANAGER OR WHATEVER, WE'RE GOING TO BUMP THAT UP.

HOW ABOUT THAT? RANDY SAYS THAT NUMBER IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT LIKE THAT ON THERE.

OKAY.

THAT'S GOOD.

OKAY.

UH, HUMAN RESOURCES.

UM, YES.

MA'AM, I'M SORRY, BUT I JUST THOUGHT OF SOMETHING, UM, DEPARTMENT HE LEFT.

HE'S THE MAIN ISSUE I'M ASKING THIS QUESTION.

UM, AND DID YOU THINK ABOUT SOMETHING Y'ALL DURING THE COVID HAD EXCLUDED US CHARGING CREDIT CARD FEES AND THAT'S STILL A STANDARD HOURS? THE SAME.

I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY DIFFERENT, I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY IN 4 0 9 BUDGETED TO COVER THOSE CREDIT CARD FEES BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE COMING IN AND PAYING THEIR PROPERTY TAX.

OH, I SEE.

OKAY.

THEY USE IT BY CREDIT CARD.

OH, WE STILL ARE.

WE STILL, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT STILL DOING THAT THOUGH.

WE'RE CHARGING FEES NOW.

NO, NO, NO.

WE'VE NEVER TAKEN IT OFF.

NEVER TAKEN IT OFF IN MY ROOM.

ASKING IS WHEN PEOPLE COME IN TO PAY THEIR PROPERTY TAX, IT'S NOT ONLY KAUFMAN COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

IT'S THE MUDS, IT'S THE FIRES AND ALL OF THOSE.

AND WE'RE NOT CHARGING THOSE COMPANIES, THOSE FEES.

WE'RE GIVING THEM THEIR MONEY WITHOUT IT.

WE'RE PAYING FOR IT.

I THINK IT'S TIME TO REINSTITUTE.

WE NEED TO REINSTATE THAT BECAUSE OKAY THEN THE, THEN THE DRIVER'S LICENSE.

I MEAN THE TAGS, WE CHARGE A FEE FOR THAT THEN.

YES, SIR.

YEAH.

OKAY.

CAUSE I WAS GOING TO SAY I'M STANDING IN THE TANK ONE DAY AND THEY WERE CHARGING THEM FEES, EVERYBODY THAT CHARGED.

NOW WE NEED TO PUT THAT BACK ON THE AGENDA AND WE NEED TO PUT THAT BACK ON THE DAY.

I AGREE WITH MR. PHILLIPS THAT WE SHOULD RE-INSTITUTE WE GOTTA DO THAT IN COURT.

WE GOTTA DO THAT IN COURT.

THAT HAS TO GO ON THE AGENDA.

OKAY.

SO TALK TO US ABOUT THE FEES AND LOWER BOUNDS PROPERTY FEES, CREDIT CARD FEES, CHARGED BOTTOMS. SHE DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH TO PAY IT.

THAT'S IT IT'S TIME TO REINSTATE THE FEES THOUGH.

SO WE NEED TO PUT THAT BACK ON THEM.

THEN THE, PROBABLY THINK, SAY THAT AGAIN ABOUT REINSTATING THE FEES ON THE PROPERTY TAXES, DOUBLE ON CREDIT CARDS, BECAUSE IT'S GETTING REALLY EXPENSIVE.

UM, WHEN THEY PUT IT ON THE ZIM AND TALK ABOUT IT, THAT'S ALL WE CAN LIVE.

OKAY.

THE REASON WHY IS I'M BEING ASKED TO CREATE A LINE ITEM TO PUT THE BANK CHARGES TOO FOR THE CREDIT COURT FEE.

SO I ALREADY HAVE A LINE ITEM WHERE WE PAY FOR STUFF, BUT WE'RE NOT FUNDED, BUT IT'S NOT FUNDED.

OKAY.

BUT THEN I BROUGHT UP, WHEN PEOPLE COME IN TO PAY THAT PROPERTY TAX, THEY'RE NOT JUST PAYING KAUFMAN COUNTY, THEY'RE PAYING THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, THEY'RE PAYING THE CITIES.

THEY'RE BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.

AND WE'RE WE'RE THE ONE PAYING THE FEE.

OKAY.

WELL,

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WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT.

OKAY.

THANKS GARY.

FOR THAT DISCUSSION, MAYBE YOU COULD BRING US A NUMBER, SHOW HIM WHAT WE'VE BEEN OUT, WHAT WE WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT GETS TO DO THAT FOR THEM.

WELL, THE PURCHASING AGENTS OVER THE CREDIT STUFF.

SO I'D HAVE TO ASK HER TO GET ME SOMETHING.

YEAH.

WHAT STRAIGHTEN IT OUT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, THE NEXT DEPARTMENT IS HUMAN RESOURCES.

I HAVE, I HAVE ONE ASK FOR HUMAN RESOURCES.

THEY ACTUALLY, THEIR BUDGETS CONSIDERABLY DOWN YEAR.

OVER YEAR, WE CANCELED.

I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL REMEMBER THAT WE USED TO HAVE A CONTRACT WITH A PLACE THING CALLED NEO GOV.

AND MY ASSESSMENT OF NEO GOV WHEN I STARTED WORKING IN THIS DEPARTMENT WAS WE'VE DONE NOTHING BASICALLY TO REALLY IMPLEMENT IT TO THE POINT WHERE IT WAS POTENTIALLY WOULD THEY NEEDED IT FOR ONLINE APPLICATIONS AND THINGS THAT WE CREATED THAT OUTSIDE OF THE BOX.

SO BRITTANY CANCELED THAT CONTRACT AND WE SAVED $45,000 A YEAR BY CANCELING THAT CONTRACT.

THE ONE ASK I WOULD HAVE IS BRITTANY SERVES REALLY AS THE, AS THE LEAD PERSON IN OUR HR DEPARTMENT.

AND SHE GETS A LOT OF CALLS AS THE HR LEAD PERSON.

AND IF I COULD PROVIDE HER WITH A CELL PHONE ALLOWANCE, BECAUSE SHE USES HER PERSONAL PHONE ALL THE TIME.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT C IT BRINGS, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, PRETTY, PRETTY CONSISTENTLY.

SO I'M ASKING IF I COULD APPLY A $900 A YEAR CELL PHONE ALLOWANCE TO BRITTANY.

OKAY.

COME WITH ME.

OKAY, RANDY, AS YOU CAPTURE THAT, BUT OH, THE CERTIFICATION RATES I'VE ALREADY, I JUST PUT THEM IN THERE.

THEY WERE ALREADY APPROVED.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'LL EVER BE.

I HAVE THEM OUT THERE.

I JUST PUT THEM IN THERE IN CASE THEY TAKE THE TEST AND PASS THEM ALL JUST SO WE WOULD SHOW IT WAS IN THE BUDGET.

I PUT IT IN THE BUDGET, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE ALL GONNA, GONNA COME THROUGH IT.

RIGHT.

UH, MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION WHAT'S WRITTEN UP HERE IS QUITE A BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHERE WE ARE, WHERE WE LANDED WITH MAINTENANCE WAS WE DID APPROVE THE ONE JANITOR POSITION TO START IN JANUARY.

SO EVERYTHING ELSE WAS OUT.

THAT WAS THE CHANGE, UH, THAT BUDGET'S BEEN DECREASED BY THE $75,000 THAT WE HAD IN REPAIRS TO COUNTY PROPERTY.

75 OF THAT WAS DESIGNATED FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES BUILDING OR LAST YEAR THAT BUILDING IS NOW OFF THE TABLE.

SO WE TOOK THAT COMPLETELY OUT OF THAT BUDGET.

AND THEN A FEW, JUST A FEW SMALL ADJUSTMENTS.

UM, HE WOUND UP GREAT, SOME UNIFORMS. SO, SO A NEW PACKAGE OF UNIFORMS IN THERE, UH, NOTHING OF ANY SIGNIFICANCE YEAR OVER YEAR THAT BITES US DOWN QUITE A, QUITE A BIT.

UH, I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A MOVING, UM, APARTMENT AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

AND WE WERE STARTING TO PITCH THAT, YOU KNOW, DIVERSIFY SOME OF THESE ASSETS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE ON OUR, ON OUR BOOKS, SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS, AND AS WE PICK UP NEW BUILDINGS AND SO THERE'LL BE SOME CONTINUED FLUX, BUT I THINK THE BUDGET IS, IS PRETTY, PRETTY GOOD THE WAY IT IS.

SO TOTALLY ALL THE DETAILS ARE ON THOSE EXPENSE SHEETS.

IF YOU NEED TO SEE THEM, WE'RE HAVING SOME INTERNET WOES ACROSS BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S WATCHING THIS RIGHT NOW.

SO, SO IT'S, YOU CAN SEE IT'S SPINNING AROUND A LITTLE BIT.

WE'RE DOING WELL.

WE'RE AT 500.

WE GOTTA, WE GOTTA GO TO 700.

SO WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE, JUST SO YOU KNOW.

OKAY.

SO I'M SORRY.

I SKIPPED OVER.

I SKIPPED OVER A TAX COLLECTOR'S OFFICE.

THERE WERE NO, THERE WERE NO REAL CHANGES TO THE, TO THE TAX COLLECTORS DROPPED A LITTLE BIT.

IT DID A DROP A LITTLE BIT.

YEAH.

BUT IT ALSO, WE ALSO PICKED UP THE, THEY HAVE A LOT OF EMPLOYEES AND SO, SO THEIR BASE IS GOING TO GO UP BECAUSE AT 1% IT GOES TO ALL THE WAY THROUGH THEIR DEPARTMENT.

BUT THESE ARE, OR THIS IS THE THERE'S ADVANTAGES AND DISADVANTAGES TO BEING CLOUD-BASED THIS, THIS IS YOUR DISADVANTAGE TO BEING CLOUD-BASED IS IT, IS IT WE'RE GOING TO BE SPINNING AROUND UNTIL WE GET SOME INTERNET SIGNAL BACK? MAYBE WE NEED TO ASK SCOTT T TO CUT SOME OF OUR PEOPLE OFF OF, WELL, WHAT I, WHAT I COULD PROBABLY DO IS GO TO A REPORTS MODEL AND GET A DIFFERENT VERSION OF IT.

BUT YEAH, THE ONE THAT WE HAD, AND IT HAS THE, ALL OF THE CHECKS, IT'S EASIER TO WORK IN THIS.

YEAH.

IN THE REPORTS WHILE I CAN SEE ALL THE DEPARTMENTS.

YEAH.

I CAN.

IT SHOWS IT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY THOUGH.

IT DOESN'T SHOW IT THE WAY I WANT US TO.

OH, I NEED TO SHOW IT THOUGH.

THAT'S THE PROBLEM WE HAVE WITH THE EXPLANATIONS AND STUFF.

EXACTLY.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL SEE IF WE LOAD BACK UP.

IT IS, IT IS STRUGGLING.

HERE WE GO.

SO DOWN OPERATING EXPENSES DOWN 11 ONE YEAR OVER YEAR OR TO, TO THE BASE, I NEED TO GO BACK TO THE BASE.

WELL, WE HAVE TO REMEMBER WHEN IT IS, THE BASE INCLUDES EVERYTHING YOU'VE ALREADY, RIGHT.

DON'T WANT THAT THE UTILITIES, WE DID MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO UTILITIES.

WE'RE PICKING

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UP TWO NEW BUILDINGS.

AND SO WE MADE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE UTILITIES WHILE WE STILL HAVE.

I MEAN, WE MAY SEE SOME POTENTIAL SAVINGS ONCE WE DIVERSIFY OR THE, YOU KNOW, THE BUILDINGS THAT WE HAVE, BUT DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

SO THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF AN INCREASE TO THE UTILITIES YEAR OVER YEAR, I'D LIKE TO PASS ON BOTH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND FIRE MARSHAL.

THE FIRE MARSHALL HAS BEEN OUT.

I HAVE SOME, SOME THINGS I STILL NEED TO WORK OUT BETWEEN THESE TWO DEPARTMENTS.

UH, SO IF I COULD JUST TABLE THOSE FOR NOW AND LET ME, LET ME BRING THOSE BACK UP TOMORROW OR NEXT WEEK, WHENEVER WE WORKED THROUGH IT, I MEAN, CONSTABLES, WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE CONSTABLES.

PRETTY CLEARLY THERE'S ANY CHANGES TO ANY OF THEIR OPERATING WITH PERSONNEL.

AND WE'VE HANDLED ALL THE PERSONNEL.

SHAWN ACTUALLY GAVE SOME MONEY BACK.

HE GAVE UP SOME, HE HAD SOME EXPENSES, HE WAS BUDGETED SOME CELL PHONE ALLOWANCES AND CAUSE THEY HAD CELL PHONES.

SO HE, HE MADE A FEW ADJUSTMENTS TO HIS, THE PERSONNEL PIECES OF OPEN.

BUT IN THERE, UH, WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

PRETTY, PRETTY CLEAR THAT THEY, AGAIN, SO WE ONCE THE, THE BIGGEST PART OF HIS, HIS PERSONNEL, THE JAIL, THE BIGGEST PART OF HIS, HIS PERSONNEL.

SO IT WAS REALLY, YOU SAW HIS ENTIRE BOOK.

HE'S PRESENTED IT, SCHOOL OFFICERS, WE DON'T HAVE THEM.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S A WASH DISPATCH.

I TOOK THAT TOWER COST OUT OF THERE, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE LOOK IN WAS, WAS REALLY RELATED TO PERSONNEL.

WE'VE GONE THROUGH THESE CONTRACTS, WINDMILL FARMS, NO CHANGE TO HIGHWAY PATROL, NO CHANGE TO DPS LICENSE AWAY.

OTHER THAN I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE THE COMMENT AS, AS YOUR HR REPRESENTATIVE, THAT OUR CURRENT RELATIONSHIP, THE WAY WE HAVE IT STRUCTURED WITH DPS JUST DOESN'T HAVE ALL THE MECHANISMS IN PLACE THAT I BELIEVE IT SHOULD HAVE.

AND, AND THE REASON I SAY THIS IS WE HAVE, I THINK THAT CLASSIFICATION OF THEM IS HIS SECRETARIES.

AND SO THERE'S TWO SECRETARIES THAT WORK FOR SERGEANTS OR CORPORALS OR WHATEVER THEIR RANK MAY BE.

WELL, THEY WORK KIND OF INDEPENDENTLY OF EACH OTHER.

AND SO IF THERE'S EVER AN HR ISSUE THAT POPS UP, IT LANDS ON THE HR TEAM HERE TO SOLVE, BUT WE HAVE NO AUTHORITY.

WE HAVE NO FORMAL AUTHORITY.

SO, AND THEY, THEY, THEY THEY'RE IN OUR BENEFIT PACKAGE.

THEY'RE IN OUR INSURANCE PACKAGE.

THEY'RE EMPLOYEES OF THE COUNTY TECHNICALLY CAUSE THEY'RE ON OUR BOOKS, BUT THEY DON'T REPORT TO ANYONE.

SO I DON'T KNOW.

I GUESS THIS MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR LEGAL.

COULD WE JUST GIVE THEM DOLLARS AND LET THEM BE STATE EMPLOYEES? I DON'T KNOW THAT.

SO NOT EVEN TALK TO JEN BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE INVOLVED.

IT PROBABLY IS, BUT WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY REQUIRED TO PROVIDE THOSE POSITIONS.

THERE'S NO, BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE BIG COUNTIES DO IT BECAUSE YOU ALL FUSSING HER RUNNING, RIGHT? YEAH.

THAT'S ABOUT, I MEAN, THIS IS ALL WE GOT THE OFFICE.

WELL, ALWAYS I'LL JUST TEE IT UP THIS WAY.

WE, WE DO THE SAME THING PRETTY MUCH WITH AG LIFE, BUT THAT GLASS COMES IN FRONT OF THIS COURT AND TALKS TO THIS COURT ON A REGULAR BASIS AND YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON.

HE KNOWS.

OKAY.

DAN'S ALWAYS USED TO, BUT I, FOR SOME REASON THAT LAST COUPLE OF YEARS THEY HAVEN'T BEEN HERE.

SO IT MIGHT JUST BE A RELATIONSHIP PIECE.

SO MAYBE, MAYBE THE COURT TO GUIDE ME OR A COURT THAT ASSIST ME WITH GETTING A RELATIONSHIP.

BUT WHAT WE'RE FINDING IS THERE'S BEEN SOME, SOME OPPORTUNITIES THERE THAT WE FOUND OURSELVES A LITTLE BIT.

YEAH.

LIKE, LIKE WHO APPROVES THEIR VACATION AND, WELL, RIGHT NOW WE'RE HAVING TO APPROVE THEIR TIME CARDS.

WE JUST DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S RIGHT.

NO, THEY'RE APPROVING THEIR TIME BARS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANY, YOU DON'T KNOW IF THEY WERE THERE THAT DAY OR WE HAVE NO, WE HAVE NO, WE HAVE NO WAY TO KNOW WHAT'S WHAT'S THERE.

SO THERE'S, THERE'S JUST OPPORTUNITIES.

I BELIEVE TO, TO, FOR US TO LOOK AT THIS AND FIND A BETTER, A BETTER PATH.

THERE'S I'M NOT SAYING WE DON'T WANT TO FUND THAT OR ANY OF THAT.

I JUST THINK THERE'S A BETTER BACK.

THERE ARE GOING TO BE, IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE UNDER ANYBODY, ANY COUNTY SUPERVISION, WE COULD GIVE THEM THAT WE COULD JUST PUT THE MONEY AND LET THEM GO HARDER OWN PEOPLE.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS, BUT I KNOW THAT, BUT IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, NOBODY LIKES APPROVING SOMETHING THAT THEY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT.

RIGHT.

THAT'S NO ONE LIKES TO DO THAT.

YEAH.

WHICH SECRETARY OVER THERE, SHE APPROVED THE TIME SHEETS AND STUFF.

YEAH.

SO I DON'T REMEMBER NOW AND WHY THEY'RE NOT DOING IT.

I THINK THEY'RE JUST MAYBE SOME, SOME, SOME OPPORTUNITIES, LEAVE IT AT THAT AND UH, STRAIGHTEN IT OUT.

THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT WE ENDED UP.

ALL RIGHT.

SO YOU'VE GOT CLEMONS RANCH, DEVIN, CHAR TRAVIS RANCH.

WE'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH ALL THESE CONTRACTS.

THERE THEY'RE COST NEUTRAL.

EVERY THE SUM OF ALL OF THESE PARTS.

I'LL CLEARLY SHOW WHERE I'VE GOT THAT AS A REVENUE LINE ITEM.

SO YOU'LL SEE, YOU CAN ADD ALL THOSE UP.

YOU'D GO UP TO THE REVENUE.

YOU'LL SEE THAT

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THERE ARE DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR, UM, CHARITIES, POUR AND RELIEF.

THIS IS WHERE WE CAPTURE SEVERAL THINGS.

I'VE MADE NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THIS ONE.

OTHER THAN I TOOK OUT SOME, SOME BASE SALARY THAT WAS IN THERE.

SOME COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH PAYROLL WAS TAKEN OUT, UH, ZEROED THAT OUT.

OTHERWISE IT'S STAYING PRETTY MUCH THE SAME.

AGAIN, THIS IS ONE THAT YOU DREW UP AS YOU LOOK AT THE RUN RATES ON EVERYTHING AG LIFE ASKED FOR NO CHANGES, OTHER THAN THE CHANGES THAT WOULD COME THROUGH FOR PAYROLL, THEY ASKED FOR NO OTHER CHANGES, PROJECT MANAGER, UM, IT'S, IT'S BASICALLY COST NEUTRAL.

SHE WAS ASKING FOR AN APP DOESN'T I DON'T KNOW IF THAT APP'S GONNA COME THROUGH OR NOT.

SO IT'S, IT'S COST NEUTRAL.

UM, LEASE PAYMENTS INCLUDE THE VEHICLES.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THIS WHEN CONSTANTLY CHANGING, BECAUSE ALL, ALL YOUR FLEET, THIS IS WHERE EVERYTHING GETS BOOKED FOR FLEET.

AND SO THAT NUMBER IS JUST BASED UPON HOWEVER MANY FLEETS ARE PROJECTED, UH, RAYLAND HAS GONE THROUGH AND ADJUSTED THAT BASED UPON HER, HER LIST.

SO IT'S, IT'S ACCURATE.

AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE LEASE, THEY'RE ALL BROKEN DOWN BY LINE ITEMS. THERE IS NO CAPITAL OUTLAY.

WE'VE MOVED THESE THINGS INTO, INTO DEPARTMENTS, UM, COMPUTER EQUIPMENT.

WE ARE HAVING TO MAKE A FEW SMALL CHANGES TO SOME OF OUR SOFTWARE, ESPECIALLY OUR BARRACUDA AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS.

BUT THE NET NET OF IT, ALL I BELIEVE IS ACTUALLY COMING OFF THE BASE ON THE LAST RUN.

YEAH, I'D SAY WHAT'S UP, IT'S UP $8,000, WHICH REALLY IS REALLY IS AROUND EMAIL AND NETWORK SECURITY MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU, IF YOU DO REMEMBER IN THE COMPUTER LINE OUT, I'M JUST, IF YOU LOOK AT TWO YEARS AGO, THAT BUDGET WAS, WAS NORTH OF 1,000,002.

SO WE BROUGHT THAT DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS, BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY, WE'VE ALREADY BOUGHT THOSE THINGS THAT WE NEEDED TO BUY TO GET US IN THE POSITION WE ARE NOW.

SO IT'S BEING CONSTANTLY MONITORED AND MANAGED.

UM, YOU'VE GOT, AND YOU'VE GOT INFORMATION IN TECHNOLOGY.

SO, UM, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF, LOT OF MOVEMENT ON FIBER OPTICS AND LANDLINES AND CENTURY LINK AND THINGS.

AND SO, BUT THE NET NET OF ALL OF THIS, UM, AS WE'RE DOWN 16, NINE YEAR OLD A YEAR, DID THEY FINALLY GET THEM PICKED UP? I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.

THEY WERE VERY, VERY CLOSE.

THEY GOT SOME OF IT IN PLACE.

I'LL NEED TO SALT.

YOU ARE AWARE THAT WE HAVE A NEW SYSTEM ENGINEER ON OBVIOUSLY COME AROUND AND MET WITH CHRIS POWERS THAT I'VE HAVE A NEW CHRIS.

SO ASSISTANT ENGINEER POSITION HAS BEEN FILLED.

AND THAT LAST THING IN GENERAL FUND IS TRANSFERS.

THE WAY, THE WAY TRANSFERS WORK IS THAT WE COVER, WE COVER THE COST OF, OF SOME AREAS.

SO WE COVER JUVENILE PROBATION.

WE COVER INDIGENT HEALTHCARE.

WE COVER THE COUNTY LIBRARY.

SO THOSE THINGS ARE FUNDED THROUGH SOME OF THESE CENTERS AND OTHER THINGS FUNDED THROUGH TRANSFERS.

SO YOU GET TRANSFERRED MONEY IN, WHICH IS ALWAYS WAY LESS THAN THE TRANSFER OF MONEY OUT, BUT THAT'S A BALANCE ACCOUNT BETWEEN THOSE TWO.

IT MAY LOOK A LITTLE CLUNKY THIS YEAR BECAUSE WE'VE CHANGED OUR CHART OF ACCOUNTS.

AND SO IT'S, SO SOME THINGS DON'T LOOK EXACTLY THE WAY THEY DID.

I'M SORRY, I'M GOING A LITTLE TOO FAST THIS LAST YEAR, BUT THEY BALANCE, THEY BALANCE OUT.

THE ONE THING THAT DESERET DID WANT ME TO BRING TO THE COURT IS THAT, AND WE NEED TO CALIBRATE FOR THIS YEAR IS THAT REIMBURSEMENT.

UM, WE, WE MAY NEED A LITTLE HELP WITH IT THIS YEAR AT REIMBURSEMENT MAY, MAY GO OVER WHAT WE'VE BUDGETED FOR THIS YEAR.

AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, I'LL NEED TO GO IN HERE AND MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT FOR NEXT YEAR.

SO THERE MAY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE RISK THERE AS WELL.

SO ON THE RISK SIDE TO OUR CURRENT NUMBER, WHAT I'M HEARING IS WE'VE MADE A COUPLE OF PAYROLL CHANGES.

THOSE WERE MINOR.

THOSE ARE IN THE, THOSE ARE PROBABLY LESS THAN 50,000 AROUND THE $50,000 RANGE.

WE'VE GOT SOME RISK IN JUVENILE IN OUR CURRENT BUDGET THAT WILL, ONCE WE TRUE THAT UP THERE, MAYBE A COUPLE OF HUNDRED THOUSAND MORE THAN WE'LL HAVE TO BAKE INTO THE JUVENILE PROBATION BUDGET.

THERE MAY BE SOME RISK IN THIS INDIGENT HEALTHCARE BUDGET.

SO THAT, THAT TRANSFER THAT WE, WE TRANSFER TO THAT DEPARTMENT TO COVER, UH, THE COUNTY'S PORTION OF THOSE COSTS.

IF SO, THEN I'LL MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT.

I WAS, I WAS HOLDING THIS BACK UNTIL I HAD, BUT IN MEETING WITH THE COUNTY CLERK, I BELIEVE WE HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITY AS WELL IN HER AND HER OFFICIALS FEES.

UH, THAT OFFICE IS TRENDING MUCH HIGHER THAN IT HAS IN THE PAST.

I DID MOVE THAT NUMBER UP.

WHEN, IF YOU LOOK AT OUR CURRENT RUN RATE, WE MAY HAVE, I MAY HAVE ENOUGH THERE TO COVER ALMOST EVERYTHING THAT I'VE SPOKE ABOUT.

SO WE MAY BE BACK TO OUR COSTS.

NO, TO OUR CURRENT, THAT CURRENT NUMBER ON COMMITTED FUND BALANCE IS TO LET'S CALL IT TWO, TWO.

UM, THEY'RE ABOUT

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AS WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

UM, SO, AND, AND THAT ALSO, I'VE ALSO PUT THAT $300,000 THAT YOU ASKED FOR IN CONTINGENCY IN DEPARTMENT 4 0 9, THAT WE ALSO HAVE $300,000 SETTING IN THAT CONTINGENCY.

ALL OTHER PAYROLL CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN TALKED ABOUT UP TO THIS POINT ARE IN THIS MATH.

I BELIEVE BRANDON WE'VE CAPTURED, WE'VE CAPTURED EVERYTHING.

WE VERIFY THAT AGAINST HER SHEETS IS WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

THAT'S WHAT WE DO PRETTY MUCH ON A DAILY BASIS IS TO MAKE SURE WE'VE CAPTURED EVERYTHING THAT'S OUT THERE.

I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY, ANY OTHER OUTLIERS.

WE DO HAVE FUNDS TO GO THROUGH THE, THE FIRST FOUR FUNDS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO GO THROUGH IS GOING TO BE ROAD AND BRIDGE.

AND SO ROAD AND BRIDGE, I HAVE PLACEHOLDERS.

I HAVE THE REVENUE SIDE OF IT PRETTY MUCH, PRETTY MUCH THERE.

SO THAT'S THE REVENUE, BUT WE NEED TO GO THROUGH ALL FOUR OF THOSE AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH WHERE THOSE ARE.

AND THEN I'LL CHECK THOSE BACK IN.

AND THEN ALL THE OTHER FUNDS BEYOND THAT, WE HAVE BALANCED OUT KAREN I'VE CLICKED, WE'VE BALANCED OUT ROAD BONDS.

WE'VE BALANCED OUT ALL THE DEBT.

WE HAVE BALANCED OUT.

I THINK BRANDY, YOU CAUGHT ADULT PROBATION.

WE'VE GOT SOME LOT ITEMS TO MOVE, BUT THE DOLLARS I BELIEVE WE HAVE EVERY OTHER FUND OUT THERE PRETTY MUCH WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE REALIZING MOST OF THOSE FUNDS.

IF THERE WAS AN ADJUSTMENT, IT'S JUST A REVENUE EXPENSE.

SO THERE IS NO REAL IMPACT TO OUR OVERARCHING BUDGET.

UM, IT'S JUST, I MAY HAVE TO MOVE THE REVENUE UP OR THE EXPENSE DOWN OR VICE VERSA AS WE, AS WE GO BACK AND TRUE THOSE UP AS WE GET NEAR TO CLOSING OUR BOOKS, UH, WE ONLY HAVE ANOTHER WE'LL CARRY ON A, PROBABLY A LOT MAY OUT HERE PRETTY SOON AS SAY AUGUST THE 15TH OR SO, THAT'S IT.

YOU KNOW, WE GOT IT, WE GOT IT.

WE GOT A CALL, A STOPPING POINT SOMEWHERE SO THAT WE CAN PROCESS EVERYTHING.

WE NEED TO PROCESS WHAT, WHAT THE NEXT STEPS WILL BE, WILL BE TO GO THROUGH THESE FUNDS ROAD AND BRIDGE.

IF WE COULD DO RODEN BRIDGE TOMORROW, TOMORROW, WE'LL DO THAT.

WE HAD THE WIND ROAD AND BRIDGE, AND THEN WE NEED TO CAPTURE UP, UH, JUVENILE PROBATION.

HOPEFULLY YOU'LL HAVE THOSE.

AND THEN I'VE GOT A NOTE HERE FOR SENIOR CONNECT.

I CAN, I CAN ASK ANNABEL TO REACH OUT OR SOMEONE TO REACH OUT TO THEM AND SEE IF THEY WANT TO COME PRESENT THE BOARD PRESIDENT.

I DON'T KNOW.

I HAVE ONE CHAIRMAN.

I NO IDEA THAT WAS THAT GENTLEMAN EASILY TEMPORARY EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, DIRECTOR.

I DON'T KNOW WHO THE BOARD PRESIDENT IS.

I'LL FIND OUT.

I'LL FIND OUT I'VE GOT IT ON MY NOTES TO DO SHE'S NEW.

I THINK IT'D BE GOOD TO HAVE SOMEBODY COME THAT HAS SOME HISTORICAL KNOWLEDGE OF SURE.

SURE.

OKAY.

YEAH.

AND THE COUNTY LIBRARY, WHERE'S THAT? OH, IT'S HERE.

IT'S IT'S IT'S IT'S I'LL GET TO IT.

I'LL SHOW YOU.

IT'S RIGHT HERE.

I GOT DROPPED DOWN BELOW.

IT'S A FUN AND I'LL SHOW YOU IT'S RIGHT HERE.

IT'S RIGHT THERE.

THIS IS THE COUNTY LIBRARY.

SO THE NET TO OUR BASE IS ACTUALLY IS ACTUALLY DOWN.

SO WHAT I'LL DO WITH THIS ONE IS I'LL TAKE HER ENTIRE EXPENSES AND OFFSET THEM WITH REVENUES.

AND THEN THE, THEN YOU GO AND YOU LOOK UP THE TRANSFERS AND YOU'LL SEE THAT WE TRANSFER THAT MONEY TO COVER THE COST OF A LIBRARY TO DOES HAVE SOME REVENUES THAT ARE OUTSIDE.

SO LET ME JUST GO TO THIS ONE.

SO I'LL BREAK IT DOWN THIS WAY.

SO YOU CAN SEE THE TRUE COST.

SO SHE HAS MORE THAN ONE REVENUE STREAM.

SO, SO SHE HAS THESE OTHER REVENUE STREAMS. AND SO YOU GET, YOU GET FINES AND COPIES, ET CETERA.

AND THEN YOU GET MS. LANE AND THEN TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL FUND.

THAT'S THAT'S THE IMPACT TO THE COUNTY.

SO LAST YEAR IT WAS 2 74.

WE MADE AN ADJUSTMENT OF 23 IS 2 97 TO 93.

SO IT WAS 2 74.

IT'S UP TO 2 97.

THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE IMPACT.

AND HOW DO WE TRAIN THEM? HOW DO WE DEAL WITH SOME OF THE OTHER REVENUE THAT WAS MY QUEST TO DS? THERE'S LIKE, JUST LIKE PEOPLE ASK US FOR MORE MONEY.

CAN WE ASK FOR MORE MONEY? THAT'S RIGHT.

I MEAN, JUST TO ELABORATE BOARD THAT ARE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY AND DOES THE COUNTY HAD ASKED THOSE QUESTIONS? I THINK THE ONLY GOVERNMENT ENTITY WE GET FUNDING FROM IS THE CITY OF COFFEE.

BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE, I MEAN, WE'VE NEVER HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.

INCREASINGLY GIVE US 15,000.

I KNOW THAT FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY, YOU DONATE MONEY.

YOU SHOW US THE REVENUE AND GENERICS AND THE REVENUE.

THOSE ARE THE REVENUES FOR THE LIBRARY.

THIS IS AT THE BOTTOM.

YEAH, NO, I'M ASKING HIM TO DISPLAY THEM HERE.

SO I'LL START WITH THE TOP.

SO FINES AND COPIES, CITY OF KAUFFMAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT MAKES

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UP MISCELLANEOUS IT'S $1,500.

AND THAT MADE THE PLANS.

HE HAD A GRANT THAT IT WAS A ONE TIME.

AND SO SHE, SHE HAD A GRANT LAST YEAR, SO SHE'S NOT GOING TO GET IT THIS YEAR AND TRANSFERS.

AND THEN SHE CARRIES A BALANCE.

AND SO THAT'S JUST AN ESTIMATED BEGINNING BALANCE OF WHAT SHE'S CARRYING AND THAT'S, THAT'S OUR REVENUE STRUGGLE.

REALLY? IT IS THE CITY OF COFFIN.

THAT'S THE ONLY SIGNIFICANT REVENUE.

WHAT WAS THE LAST TIME WE ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL? OR SHE ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL REVENUE FROM THE CITY OF COFFEE? I COULDN'T, YEAH, I GUESS I DON'T KNOW.

WHO DOES IT, IS IT THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY? IS IT US OR NO, IT WOULD BE US, I GUESS IT'D BE THE COUNTY.

I'LL PUT IT DOWN AS A NOTE AND I'LL ASK YOU MY HUSBAND.

I TELL YOU, SHE SHE'S.

AND THEN SHE'S EXTREMELY, YOU KNOWLEDGEABLE THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY.

WHAT H HOW DOES THAT USUALLY, LIKE, I WON'T BUY BOOKS FOR AND STUFF.

THERE WAS A COUPLE OF YEARS THAT WE WERE RUNNING WHILE WE HAD TO CUT BACK AND THEY, THEY CAME UP AND THEY WROTE ACTUAL ROAD CHECKS AND BOXES OF STUFF FOR THEM.

THEY'RE FUN.

THEY HAVE FUN WRITERS.

AND THEY JUST HAD ONE WHERE THEY SOLD BOOKS AND THEY DON'T GIVE HER CASH.

THEY FUND PROJECTS FOR NASA OR SO CHILDREN'S ACTIVITIES.

AND IF THEY DO GIVE HER MONEY AND SEND THAT MISCELLANEOUS THERE, AND WHICH ONES MISCELLANEOUS, A LOT OF TIMES SHE RAISES MONEY ON THOSE BECAUSE HE CAN PAY BOOKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

ARE THEY? YEAH.

I MEAN, THAT WASN'T, THAT WASN'T MUCH MONEY.

SO, YEAH, I JUST, I DIDN'T KNOW.

CAUSE I'VE BEEN TO A COUPLE OF THOSE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY, THEM, IT'S A BIG TURNOUT.

I'M JUST WONDERING WHERE THAT MONEY.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DO KNOW IS THAT I KNOW THAT THERE'S GRANTS OUT THERE AND THERE'S ALWAYS GRANTS THAT FLOAT OUT THERE ON, ON DIFFERENT THINGS.

AND I KNOW WHEN I WAS TALKING WITH YASMIN LAST THAT SHE, SHE SAW A COUPLE OF GRANTS THAT SHE WAS GOING TO GO AFTER ONE.

AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING TOGETHER A BOOKMOBILE AND SHE WAS GOING TO SEE IF SHE CAN GET A GRANT FOR THAT.

SO SHE'S PRETTY ACTIVE IN THAT ARENA OF TRYING TO GET GRANT MONEY ALL THE TIME.

SHE GOT 19,000 OR SOMETHING LAST YEAR, BUT THOSE COMPUTERS WITH, SO SHE'S PRETTY, SHE'S, SHE'S PRETTY, SHE'S PRETTY ACTIVE.

SO WE ACROSS THE BOARD, THERE'S PARTICULARLY SINCE COVID, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY, AT LEAST FOR GRANTS THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE BE MORE FOCUSED ON, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH A DEDICATED RESPONSIBILITY, SOMEBODY TO CONSTANTLY BE SEARCHING FOR GRANTS.

WELL, AND WHAT'S REALLY AMAZING TO ME IS, AND I KNOW WE'RE A POOR COUNTY, BUT THE PEOPLE THAT UTILIZE THAT PARKING LOT FOR THE WIFI, NO, WE, WE FUNDED TO BOOST IT UP, MAKE IT MORE POWERFUL, BUT IT'S JUST AMAZING TO PEOPLE IT'S OUT.

THAT'S A REAL SERVICE.

I MEAN, MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, AS WE, I DON'T KNOW, WE'RE REALLY ARE ON THEIR SHERIFFS FACILITY UP NORTH, BUT YOU KNOW, PUBLIC FACILITIES LIKE THAT, MAYBE WE OUGHT TO BE LOOKING AT ADDING SOME KIND OF WIFI SERVICE BESIDES JUST HERE, BROADBAND INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE'RE REPLYING ON SACRED LINK.

I KNOW THERE'S FUNDING.

I KNOW THERE'S GRANT FUNDING OUT THERE FOR THAT.

YEAH.

BUT ANYWAY, IT'S JUST, YOU'RE JUST ONE OF THEM DEALS.

IT'S KIND OF STOOD OUT AS LIKE, WHY DON'T THESE PEOPLE HANG OUT HERE AND THEN IT TURNED OUT IT WAS THE WIFI, THAT'S IT.

SOME OF MY BUSINESS SWUNG DOING SCHOOLWORK.

IT'S JUST, THAT'S EVERYWHERE.

THEY'RE IN EVERY STARBUCKS AND EVERY MCDONALD'S WHEREVER THERE'S FREE, WIFI PEOPLE ARE IN THERE USING IT.

SO IF I COULD JUST WRAP UP PLACE FROM MY, MY VIEWPOINT OF SAYING SO TOMORROW A COUPLE OF CLEANUPS IN THE GENERAL FUND ARE VERY MINOR.

SO WE'LL RUN THE NEW NUMBERS.

WE'LL GET THAT BACK OUT.

I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, WHAT THE TRUE-UP WILL BE.

WE NEED TO GO THROUGH ROAD AND BRIDGE.

WE NEED TO GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE ROAD AND BRIDGE CYCLE.

SO REVENUE TO EXPENSES.

AND SO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT THAT BUTTONED UP.

AND THEN AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE'VE GOT THOSE OTHER TWO WORKSHOPS, BUT WE DON'T NEED THEM.

WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THEM, BUT I WANTED TO HAVE THEM ON THE CALENDARS IN CASE, IN CASE WE NEEDED TO, AT SOME POINT, WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO LOCK IN ON, ON THE REVENUE SIDE, EVERYONE AGREE TO THE REVENUE, AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO LOCK INTO.

AND ONCE WE LOCK IN ON REVENUE, THEN WE WOULD GENERATE A TAX RATE.

RIGHT.

THAT'S HOW THAT WORKS.

AND SO ONCE WE GET LOCKED IN, WE HAVE THE CERTIFIED VALUES FROM THE TAX OFFICE.

THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE AT THIS POINT.

SO WE'LL LOCK IN AND WE'LL SET.

THEN WE'LL SET WHAT WE, WHAT WE'LL SET THE TAX RATE.

I'D LIKE TO GET THAT IN FRONT OF THE COURT.

MAKE SURE WE'RE GOOD.

AND SO, AND IT, I MEAN, WE'LL GO TO, WE'LL GO AND VOTE ON THAT ON THE 24TH, BUT I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE IN EVERYONE'S BEST INTEREST THAT WE KNOW WHAT THAT IS BEFORE WE GO THERE, THAT WE'RE READY TO GO.

WE'VE ALREADY LOCKED IN.

THAT'S WHAT WE BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE.

AND WE'LL, WE'LL COME INTO COURT AND WE'LL VOTE ON THAT ON THE 24TH.

AND WE'LL CAUSE I GOT, WE GOT, WE GOT, WE GOT NOTICES.

WE HAVE TO DO, YOU KNOW, ALONG THESE WAYS.

AND SO WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GOOD TO GO ON EVERYTHING TOO, IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT, I THINK WE'VE COVERED.

WE'VE DONE.

WE'VE DONE A LION'S SHARE OF IT TODAY.

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WE WILL GO THROUGH IT AND BRIDGE AND THEN I CAN GO THROUGH THE REST OF THOSE FUNDS JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'VE.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GO PUBLIC.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE I PUT THEM ON A SCREEN AND WE GO THROUGH THEM.

SO I'LL GO THROUGH ROD AND BREADS AND I'LL GO THROUGH EVERY OTHER FUND THAT'S OUT THERE.

SO I CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GONE.

WE PUBLICLY HAVE SEEN THEM AND REVIEWED THEM.

AND WE'RE ALL GOOD TO GO.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THAT'S IT FOR ME, BUDDY.

HERE WE GO.

ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE HEAR FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS? EVERYBODY DONE.

ALL RIGHT.

MOTION TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING.

SECOND, MR. PHILLIPS A SECOND FROM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

AYE.

OPPOSED? OPPOSED? NO.

OKAY.