[1. To Discuss the Fiscal Year 2021-2022 Budget.]
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21 IT'S 1:00 PM AND THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING ROOM IN THE COURTHOUSE ANNEX.
SO WE HAVE A TWO ITEM AGENDA TODAY, BEGINNING WITH NUMBER ONE, DISCUSS THE FISCAL YEAR 2122 BUDGET.
I THINK WE'RE ALL KIND OF GROUPED INTO THE PATTERN AND LISTEN, ANYBODY HAS ANYTHING TO START WITH? I'LL PUNT IT OVER TO JERRY AND WALK US THROUGH WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT YESTERDAY OR WHAT WE PLANNED ON DOING TODAY.
LET ME JUST REMIND THE OPEN SWITCHES THAT WE HAVE.
SO WE'VE GONE THROUGH GENERAL.
I THINK WE'VE LANDED ON, ON MOST ALL OF THOSE ISSUES AND GENERAL FUND, VERY, VERY MINOR ADJUSTMENTS YET TO BE MADE.
RANDY'S WORKING ON THE FINAL BITS OF SOME PAYROLL, NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGE.
SINCE WE'VE, SINCE WE'VE UPDATED, WE NEED TO GO THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE FUNDS AND OF THOSE.
I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BEST THAT WE START WITH THOSE THAT, THAT IMPACT THE OVERALL REVENUE, WHICH IS RODEN BRIDGE.
UM, AFTER MEETING WITH THE COURT COORDINATOR YESTERDAY, FOR TIMING PURPOSES, WE NEED TO SET A PROPOSED TAX RATE TODAY SO THAT WE CAN GET THAT NOTICE, READY TO GO IN THE PAPER ON MONDAY AND MEET THE REST OF OUR CALENDARS.
SO JUST AS IN YEARS PAST, WE WOULD PROPOSE A TAX RATE TODAY, AND THEN WE WOULD, UM, AS YOU COME UP FOR THAT TAX HEARING, THEN YOU WOULD ADOPT A TAX RATE DURING THAT TIME.
BUT WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND PUT IT OUT THERE AS PUBLIC NOTICE OF WHAT'S PROPOSED, THAT CERTAINLY IS GOING TO BE DEPENDENT UPON THE REVENUE.
SO THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT RODIN BRIDGE BECAUSE THE REVENUE FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE, A LARGE PORTION OF THAT IS TAX DOLLARS.
AND SO WE'LL NEED TO KNOW WHERE THAT LANDS.
AND THEN I CAN SHOW YOU, I HAVE A LITTLE JUST AS A SIMPLE EXCEL SPREADSHEET, I CAN SHOW YOU WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
UH, ALSO WE'VE GOT ALL THE CALCULATIONS FROM THE TAX OFFICE.
SO ALL THE CERTIFIED VALUES FROM THE TAX OFFICE AND THE TAX OFFICE HAS PUT WHAT THEY, THEY, THEY DO IN YEARS PAST.
IT USED TO BE CALLED EFFECTIVE TAX RATE AND ROLLBACK TAX RATE.
UH, SINCE THE CHANGE IN THE LAWS AND THE LEGISLATION, IT'S NOW CALLED NO NEW REVENUE AND VOTER APPROVAL REVENUE, THOSE RATES HAVE BEEN SET BY THE, BY THE, BY THE TAX OFFICE.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF REGARD YOUR, YOUR BOOKENDS, IF YOU WILL, TO KIND OF SET AND GO FROM THERE.
BEFORE WE, BUT BEFORE WE GET TOO DEEP INTO ROAD AND BRIDGES, IT'D BE A LONG DISCUSSION, PROBABLY.
WOULD IT MAKE SENSE TO GO AHEAD AND GO BACK TO JUVENILE PROBATION? IT COULD BE.
IT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF THE, CERTAINLY ONE OF THE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE AS AN OPEN SWITCH, RIGHT.
I'M JUST SAYING YOU MIGHT AS WELL DO THAT NOW.
THAT WAY THEY WON'T HAVE TO BE HERE FOR THE, UNLESS THEY WANT TO STAY AND LISTEN TO THE ROAD AND BRIDGE DISCUSSION.
I THINK THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE.
THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE WORKS SPARKS WORKS MUCH CLOSER WITH JUVENILE PROBATION THAN WHAT I HAVE IN OPENGOV.
SO I THINK IT WOULD PROBABLY BE BEST TO HAVE THE AUDITOR KIND OF TALK ABOUT WHAT SHE HAS AND KIND OF GO FROM THERE.
AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL GO GOVERN THAT PART FORWARD.
SO OVER TO YOU,
SORRY, I FORGET ABOUT THIS THING.
I WANTED TO, UM, SHARE WITH Y'ALL ARE PART OF WHAT WE DO WITH THE JUVENILE BUDGET.
AND, UH, COMMISSIONER KATES HAD ACTED ASKED ABOUT THE PERCENTAGES.
SO I WONDER JUST SHOWING THE STATE PORTION THAT THEY'RE GIVING US AS 544,000 AND IT'S 30%, 6% OF HER BUDGET AND THE COUNTY IS DOING THE REST.
IF YOU APPROVE IT, THE REASON WHY IS EVERY YEAR, THEY'VE ALWAYS GIVE US A LITTLE BIT LESS AND WE'VE HAD TO PAY MORE AND MORE.
IT'S A STRANGE FORMULA, HOW IT WORKS.
SHE CAN PROBABLY EXPLAIN IT BECAUSE SHE'S BEEN HERE 30 SOMETHING YEARS.
UM, ANYWAY, THE SEVEN 13 IS WHAT THE ADOPTED BUDGET SHOWS THAT WE SHOULD HAVE GAVE HIM, BUT WE ONLY GAVE HIM 600 AND SOMETHING FOR THIS YEAR.
IF YOU REMEMBER, I TOLD YOU ABOUT IT YESTERDAY.
SO THE CORRECT AMOUNT THAT WE SHOULD'VE GAVE WAS 713,000.
SHE'S WANTING TO RESTRUCTURE SOME OF OUR POSITIONS AND THEN HIRE SOME NEW POSITIONS THAT ARE BOARD APPROVED AND IT'S AROUND $150,000.
AND THAT'S FOR, I THINK, FOUR POSITIONS, RIGHT? IT'S ACTUALLY THREE, YOU GOT ONE AND THEN YOU'RE PROMOTING IT UP.
THEN OPERATING OF EXPENDITURES ARE ABOUT $70,000 MORE.
UH, AND SALARY ADJUSTMENTS FOR THREE POSITIONS IS 13,005 40.
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SO THAT MAKES THE NON 47 NON 35.AND SHE HAS ABOUT A HUNDRED AND THIRTY FOUR HUNDRED THIRTY 5,000 COMING FROM THE STATE YOU ON AUGUST REVENUES.
CAUSE HER BOOKS WILL CLOSE AUGUST.
SO I INCLUDED THAT, UM, WITH THE CALCULATION AND HER TOTAL BUDGET, AS FAR AS WE CAN COME CLOSE TO IS ABOUT 1,000,630.
I THINK JUST THE VARIATIONS OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GOOD SINCE IT'S HER BUDGET.
AND SHE CAN EXPLAIN TO YOU WHY SHE'S HAVING TO DO SOME OF THE STUFF SHE HAS THAT SHE SHOWED UP TODAY AND TELL YOU, BUT I WANT IT TO BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN THE NUMBERS TO YOU.
KAREN, JUST FOR, JUST FOR CLARITY.
SO THAT THE 9 47, 9 35 IS, IS A PROJECTED COUNTY MATCH AT THIS POINT.
YOU WANT TO TALK TO HIM? FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE FOR DRESSING THE CORD IN MY BLUE JEANS.
I DIDN'T KNOW UNTIL AFTER I LEFT THE HOUSE THIS MORNING AND THAT I NEEDED TO BE HERE.
SO, UM, AND I LITERALLY GOT OUT OF THE DENTIST CHAIR AT 1255.
I TALK FUNNY, THAT'S IT? OH YEAH.
DO YOU NEED THAT SHEET OR YOU GOTTA HAVE IT.
I DON'T THINK I NEEDED, I, YOU INCLUDED ALL THE NUMBERS HERE, UM, IN THAT COUNTY PORTION, THAT $50,000 OF THAT IS FOR DETENTION.
UM, WE CAN'T, WE JUST CAN'T PREDICT WHAT DETENTION IS GOING TO BE.
UM, BUT I'VE NEVER HAD TO COME BACK AND ASK THIS COURT FOR MANY FOR DETENTION.
AND MY PHILOSOPHY IS THAT I NEED TO PROJECT WHAT I'M REALLY GOING TO NEED SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO TRY TO COME UP WITH MONEY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FISCAL YEAR.
AND I BELIEVE THAT 50,000 ADDITIONAL WILL HELP.
I MEAN, BRANDY YOU'VE LOOKED AT MY BOOKS.
I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S WHAT IS GOING TO BE WHAT WE NEED.
WE'VE MOVED MONEY AROUND TO COVER THAT LINE ITEM.
THE, UH, ONE OF THE OTHER ITEMS IN THE, UH, OPERATING IS LIKE MONITOR.
WE'VE GONE UP FROM 5,000 TO 20,000.
UH, THE, THE PURPOSE IS TO USE THE LEG MONITORS MORE.
MAYBE NOT HAVE TO USE DETENTION AS MUCH.
UM, PHILOSOPHICALLY I'VE NOT LIKED LIKE MONITORS.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF, UH, GOOD RESULTS USING THE LEG MONITOR.
SO SHE, UM, SHE WAS WRITING, IT'S GOING TO HELP US WITH DETENTION AND IT'S HELPING US MANAGE OUR KIDS.
NOW, SOME OF THEM CUT THEM OFF, OBVIOUSLY, BUT ANYWAY, THE OTHER IS A SMALL AMOUNT.
I THINK IT WAS 3000, MAYBE 5,000 FOR TRAINING.
SO BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE ADDITIONAL TRAINING FOR NEW, YOU KNOW, FOR HAVING NEW POSITIONS, UM, THE THREE NEW POSITIONS, ONE IS A, AN ADMIN PERSON.
IT'S A FULL-TIME POSITION SHE'S WORKING THERE NOW.
PART-TIME UM, DOING THAT WORK, DOING A GREAT JOB WITH THE HUGE INCREASE THAT WE HAVE IN, UH, REFERRALS.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN PAPER FILES.
WE ALSO MAINTAIN A COMPUTER FILE.
SO ANYWAY, SO THAT'S WHAT WE NEED HER FOR THE OTHER POSITION FULL-TIME POSITION THAT, THAT I NEED TO HIRE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE IS A PROBATION SUPERVISOR.
UM, IT, IT WILL THAT CREATING THAT POSITION WILL LET ME PUT A PERSON WHO HAS SUPERVISORY AND CAN MONITOR OUR PROBATION OFFICERS A LITTLE BIT MONITORS, NOT THE RIGHT WORD, ASSIST THEM A LITTLE MORE, UH, IN GETTING THINGS DONE THAT THEY NEED TO GET DONE.
SHE ALSO WILL BE IN CHARGE OF TRAINING.
SO SHE'S, WE'RE CERTAIN THAT EVERYBODY'S GETTING THE TRAINING WE NEED BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE EVERYDAY YOU'RE HANDLING, UH, YOU'RE PUTTING OUT A FIRE.
YOU'RE NOT ALWAYS KEEPING UP WITH THOSE THINGS.
SO ANYWAY, THAT'S WHAT THAT POSITION WOULD DO THAT WOULD OPEN.
CAUSE I MOVE AT A GIRL THAT I HAVE NOW WHO HAS HAD EXPERIENCED THAT WOULD OPEN A POSITION FOR COURT BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE OUR REAL NEED IS.
WE ARE OVERLOADED WITH CASES GOING TO COURT.
AS I KNOW YOU ARE, REMEMBER I TOLD YOU WE HAD AN 81% ACTUALLY IS 80 TO 81.9% INCREASE IN FELONY REFERRALS.
THOSE ARE ALL COURT THAT 81% INCREASE.
ALL OF THOSE ARE GOING TO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
WHEN A CASE GOES TO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, IF THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, THERE'S HOME VISITS, THEIR SCHOOL PAPERS, THEIR SCHOOL VISITS, THEIR PSYCHOLOGICAL EVALUATIONS, PSYCHIATRIC EVALUATIONS, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF WORK THAT GOES INTO JUST PRE-COURT.
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UM, AND WE ALSO SUPERVISE OUR KIDS AND ON CONDITIONS OF RELEASE THEIR PRE-COURT, HAVEN'T GONE TO COURT.THEY'RE NOT FOUND GUILTY OF ANYTHING, BUT THEY HAVE TO BE SUPERVISED AS WELL.
SO THAT CREATING THAT POSITION OF, UH, AS A PROBATION SUPERVISOR GIVES SOME, HAVE SOMEBODY WHO'S MORE, A LITTLE HANDS-ON, UH, OPENS UP THE DOOR FOR ME TO HAVE ANOTHER COURT OFFICER TO HIRE THAT POSITION.
THE THIRD POSITION WOULD BE, UH, IF WE ACTUALLY GET I FOUNDATION PORT, IF WE GET A FOUNDATION PORT FIRST FACILITY, I'M GOING TO NEED TO HIRE A FACILITY ADMINISTRATOR.
SO THAT PHILLIPS FACILITY ADMINISTRATOR CAN GET STARTED ON POLICY AND PROCEDURES, STAFFING, NOT HIRING PEOPLE AT THAT POINT, BUT, UM, UH, STAFFING PLANS, THERE'S JUST ALL KINDS OF THINGS, BUT WE DIDN'T BUDGET THAT TO START UNTIL MAY.
AND IF THERE'S NOT A FOUNDATION POURED, WE DON'T NEED THAT POSITION.
SO I'M JUST PROJECTING IN, IN CASE.
UM, AND THE RISES ARE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE TAKING ON NEW RESPONSIBILITIES, NOT, UH, NOT MORE OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING, BUT WE'RE ADDING TO WHAT WE'RE ADDING, UH, DIFFERENT RESPONSIBILITIES THEY'RE TAKING ON THEIR JOB DESCRIPTIONS, CHANGING.
THEY'RE TAKING ON MORE RESPONSIBILITIES, NEW ROLES IN ADDITION TO WHAT THEY'RE ALREADY DOING.
SO THAT'S WHY THE JUVENILE BOARD GAVE THOSE INCREASES.
JUDGE, CAN I INTERJECT SOMETHING? OKAY.
UM, I CAN'T REMEMBER, BUT I THINK IT'S ABOUT TWO AND A HALF, THREE YEARS AGO DURING BUDGET TIME, THE BOARD APPROVED FOR HER TO HAVE SOME EXTRA STAFF.
WELL, INSTEAD OF HIRING THEM AND US HAVING TO MAKE UP THE MONEY, WE HAD THE MONEY IN HER BUDGET, BUT SHE WENT AS SHE NEEDED IT.
AND SHE, AT THE END, SHE ASKED US IF SHE COULD PURCHASE TWO VEHICLES, THAT, OF WHAT SHE HAD SAVED AND IT SAVED THE COUNTY MONEY.
WE DIDN'T HAVE TO BUDGET ABOUT TWO VEHICLES.
JUST SAY SHE DOESN'T WASTE THE MONEY IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.
SHE TRIES TO SAVE THIS MONEY, SPEND IT UNLESS SHE HAS TO.
LIKE I SAID, I I'VE BEEN A DEPARTMENT HEAD FOR 28 YEARS.
I'VE NEVER HAD TO COME ASK FOR MORE MONEY.
I TAKE, I TRY TO DO EVERYTHING I CAN DO TO TAKE CARE OF THE MONEY, BUT I DON'T WANT TO MISS THE MARK AND HAVE TO COME BACK AND SAY, WHOOPS, I NEED $50,000 MORE FOR DETENTION BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME THINGS, YES.
MAYBE IN MAYBE SOME PEOPLE WOULD SAY THESE POSITIONS AREN'T NECESSARY.
THERE IS THERE FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO, KEEP THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WE'VE BEEN GIVING.
BUT, UH, DETENTION IS SOMETHING THAT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO HAVE THAT.
THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
Y'ALL ALREADY UNDERSTAND THAT.
SO KAREN, YOU SAID WE ONLY THE COUNTY AND IN 20, THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, WE'VE ONLY PUT IN 713,004 30.
IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? WE ONLY GIVE THEM 600 OR SOMETHING.
THERE WAS, WE ADOPTED THE FIRST BUDGET THAT WE WORKED WITH THAT YOU ADOPTED THAT BUDGET AND WE NEVER ADJUSTED IT.
DOES THAT MONEY? SO THE, UH, THE MONEY THAT WAS ALLOCATED, DOES THAT MONEY ROLL OVER INTO, BECAUSE THIS IS A FUND, RIGHT? IS IT ROLLOVER INTO FUND BALANCE? WHAT SHE HAS LEFT WOULD BE THAT SHE'S RUNNING SHORT.
NOW SHE'S RUNNING IN A DEFICIT.
I'M COVERING HER DEFICIT UNTIL HER STATE MONEY COMES IN.
I'M NOT ATTRACTING, SO I'LL PULL IT UP.
THE COUNTY HAS PUT OUT MORE, PUT LESS IN, IN WHAT WE BUDGETED, RIGHT? ACCORDING TO HER BUDGET, OURS IS 603 AND HER SHOULD BE 700 AND SOMETHING IT'S 103,000.
SO THAT DOESN'T MOVE INTO THAT FUNDS BALANCE.
I HAVEN'T MOVED IT YET, BUT IT WILL.
WELL, I WILL NOW BECAUSE I'VE TOLD YOU ALL ABOUT IT, BUT I WAS TRYING TO SAVE IT TO MOVE INTO THIS NEW BUDGET IF SHE COULD HOLD OFF AND NOT SPEND A WHOLE LOT, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIT IT.
SO YOU'RE THINKING YOU WERE, YOU WERE PLANNING WAS TO MOVE IT OUT OF HER FUND BALANCE INTO THE GENERAL FUND.
AND I WENT AND LOOKED AT THE STATE.
SHE'S GOT SOME STATE MONEY THERE, BUT IT HADN'T BEEN RECEDED BY THE TREASURE.
AND SHE DOES HAVE SOME MORE COMPANY IN, WHAT WERE YOU SAYING, JERRY? I WAS GOING TO PULL IT UP ON THE SCREEN SO YOU COULD SEE IT.
SO AS OUR BUDGET WAS TO KAREN'S 0.60 3, 9 75, I PROJECTED THAT WE WERE IN EARLY NUMBERS FROM, FROM, FROM LAURA.
WE PROJECTED, WE WOULD NEED MORE.
SO I MOVED THAT NUMBER TO 8 16, 452 WHAT'S IN OUR CURRENT ROLL UP.
IF THE NUMBER IS 9 47, 9 35, I'LL NEED TO MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT OF ANOTHER $130,000.
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ON YOUR CURRENT NUMBERS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT? I WOULD NEED TO BRING THAT NUMBER UP ANOTHER 130.THAT MEANS I WOULD NEED TO GO AND GRAB ANOTHER 130 IN REVENUE TO SUPPORT IT.
SO THE BASED ON THIS SHEET, THE, THE TOTAL ESTIMATED NEW BUDGET FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR IS 1,000,006 27.
AND OUR PORTION OF THAT TOTAL IS 63%, 9 47, 9 35.
SO ISN'T THAT 1,000,033 OR DID I, MAYBE I DID.
I'M NOT DOING THAT MATH, BUT LET'S DO IT REAL QUICK.
YEAH, MAYBE I MIGHT'VE PUT IT IN WRONG.
I THINK YOU'RE TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THAT SHE HAS A CARRY OVER 1 34.
SO 1, 4 9 2, 1 8 8 IS WHAT IS WHAT YOU'RE WORKING YOUR PERCENTAGE OFF OF.
AND THEN HER CARRY OVER MONEY IS WHAT 47 IS 63% OF A MILLION, 4 92.
THE 1 34 IS THE CARRY OVER THAT.
I'M HOPING WE CAN GATHER TOGETHER AND I'LL SLAP HER.
SO SHE HAS ENOUGH TO MAKE IT NEXT YEAR.
SO THE CARRY OVER IS ACTUALLY SAVING THE COUNTY.
NOW I DIDN'T EMPLOY THAT COMMISSIONER WHEN YOU SAY BRANDY.
SO THE CARRY OVER IS ACTUALLY SAVING THE COUNTY THAT MUCH MONEY, BUT SHE HAD NOTHING TO CARRY OVER.
THEN WE WOULD ADD THAT ADDITIONAL HUNDRED SOMETHING THOUSAND.
UH, SO LAURA, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE POSITIONS THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD IN DISCUSSION HERE YESTERDAY IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, UM, WE'RE PROJECTING A 1% RAISE FOR COUNTY EMPLOYEES.
UM, AND WE'RE, I THINK WE WERE THE GIST OF OUR CONVERSATION YESTERDAY WAS FAIRNESS.
UH, SO YOU, YOU SAY THAT THESE POSITIONS ARE, UH, THE, THESE ARE NOT GOING TO BE THE SAME POSITIONS YOU HAVE HAD THERE AT THOSE JOB DESCRIPTIONS.
ACTUAL ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN REALLY WORKING HARD AND YOU KNOW, IS TRYING TO HAVE JOB DESCRIPTIONS THAT MATCH WHAT THE JOB ACTUALLY IS.
WE HAD A LONG WAYS TO GO ON THAT ACROSS THE COUNTY, BUT I'VE NOT WRITTEN THE JOB DESCRIPTION.
I CAN'T SPEAK JOB DESCRIPTION, ADDING THOSE NEW DUTIES IN THERE, BUT THERE ARE THERE ONE, TWO, THEY'RE ALL THREE ALREADY DOING THEM.
THEY'RE ALREADY DOING, THEY'RE TAKING ON THAT.
THERE'S A DUAL ROLE FOR, FOR SOME OF THEM.
SO I THINK IT WOULD HELP US WITH THE DECISION IF WE KNEW THAT THOUGH, IF WE, IF, IF THOSE JOB DESCRIPTIONS WOULD BE UPDATED WITH THE BUDGET IN OUR, BEFORE, YOU KNOW, AS A PART OF OUR BUDGET PROCESS, THAT IF THE JOBS ARE GOING TO BE ADDING STUFF TO IT, I DIDN'T HAVE THAT.
I, IT, THE PROBLEM FOR ME WOULD BE THAT THAT WOULD NEED TO BE APPROVED BY MY JUVENILE BOARD, THE ACTUAL JOB DESCRIPTION.
AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IN MY OFFICE, EVERYBODY DOES WHATEVER IT TAKES TO GET THE JOB DONE.
UM, AND THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO TAKE ON MORE AND MORE AND THEY'LL HAVE DUAL ROLES AND I NEED TO PAY PEOPLE FOR DOING TWO JOBS.
AND WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE WOULD LIKE, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR, YOU KNOW, 10 YEARS FROM NOW OR WHATEVER DID THAT WOULD BE DOCUMENTED, RIGHT? THE JOB DESCRIPTION WOULD REFLECT THE THREE JOBS IF SOMEBODY IS DOING OR WHATEVER, I CAN DO THAT.
BUT LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW HOW I AM, I DON'T, I WANT MY JUVENILE BOARD TO SEE IT OR FOR IT, BUT ABSOLUTELY THAT'S NOT A PRICE.
AND, AND JUST FOR, JUST FOR GRINS PEOPLE TAKING ON NEW ROLES, I MEAN, THAT, THAT GOES THAT'S ACROSS THE COUNTY.
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE IN PEOPLE IN RODEN BRIDGE TAKE ON NEW ROLES.
SO IN THE END, IT BOILS DOWN TO A FINITE AMOUNT OF MONEY.
I MEAN, AND I MEAN, I, I DON'T DISBELIEVE, YOU KNOW, YOUR HURT, THE URGENCY OR THE NEED, BUT I MEAN, HONESTLY, ALMOST SO FAR, THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT NEVER SAYS NO TO ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, EV EVERY NEW POSITION JUST ABOUT, WE AGREE TO IT.
AND I'M JUST NOT SURE HOW, HOW WE CAN SUSTAIN THAT.
I MEAN, I, I DON'T THINK WE'VE SAID NO TO ANYTHING REALLY HEAVILY, IF YOU, YEAH.
I'VE NOT ADDED NEW POSITIONS EVERY YEAR.
I'VE NOT ADDED NEW POSITIONS EVERY THREE YEARS, BUT LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, WHEN YOU HAVE THE KIND OF INCREASE THAT WE HAVE, WHY DOES THE STATE'S PORTION CONTINUE TO GO DOWN THAT IF THEY CAN, BECAUSE, BECAUSE THE LEGISLATURE GIVES US FIVE TO 10% LESS EVERY YEAR, THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO IN OCTOBER, THEY CAME BACK AND CUT US 5%.
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NUMBERS NOW, AND THEY'RE TELLING US, THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE.IT CAN CHANGE AND MIGHT NOT BE THAT AFTER, NICE TO MEET THAT CARRY OVER.
RIGHT? THEN YOU WON'T EVEN HAVE THAT.
SO THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT THAT 134 IS EVEN GOING TO BE THERE DESPITE YOUR BEST EFFORT, CURRENT YEAR BUDGET.
THEY'VE NEVER NOT SENT AT THIS POINT.
UH, YEAH, BUT THEY HAVE IN OCTOBER, THEY'VE SAID, CUT YOUR BUDGET BY 5%, OR WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU 5% LESS.
WHAT WOULD YOU DO IN THAT SITUATION? I'D HAVE A BOARD MEETING AND FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO, FIGURE OUT WHAT THE BOARD WANTED TO DO.
I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AND YOU DON'T HAVE A CHOICE.
I MEAN, I DON'T WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE FACT, I DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT I'M BEING TOLD THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN THIS YEAR, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT STRUGGLING.
I'M TOLD WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT PROBLEM, BUT YOU JUST NEVER KNOW.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHY A LOT OF THE ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT HAVE SOME KIND OF NETWORKING WITH THE UPPER OFFICIALS UP THERE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THESE UNFUNDED MANDATES, BECAUSE THIS IS HARD AND EVERYONE, WE DON'T CALL THEM UNFUNDED.
THEY CHANGE THEIR STATE OR THEIR LOCAL PROPERTY TAXES PUT ON US BY THE STATE LEGISLATURE, IN THE ACT.
SHE'S TALKING ABOUT ALL THOSE FELONY CASES WITH THOSE PEOPLE.
SO THEN WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THE ATTORNEYS TO REPRESENT.
THIS IS MORE, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CHIEF? NO.
I MEAN, THERE'S NINE THINGS HE KNEW DO MY BEST.
WE ALL, WE ALL KNOW Y'ALL I APPRECIATE THE COURT.
UH, APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION AND, AND, UH, THANK YOU, KAREN.
HOPE YOUR TOOTH GETS TO FEELING BETTER KILLER THROUGH WITH ME.
IF SOMETHING COMES UP, JUST CALLING IT OUT.
AND I DID CALL MY TEAM YESTERDAY CAUSE I'VE WATCHED THE VIDEO AND ANY OF THE REAL QUESTIONS I DID CALL HER AND SHE WANTED TO BE HERE WHEN SHE COULD.
HUH? UM, OKAY, JERRY, I GUESS WE NEED TO INSTRUCTIONS.
I JUST NEED TO KNOW, DO I CHANGE THIS NUMBER TO 9 47, 9 35? OR DO I LEAVE THIS NUMBER AT A DIFFERENT NUMBER? IF IT'S NINE SEVEN, IF YOU GET THE NUMBERS IT'S OKAY.
I MEAN, WE DID THE BEST PROJECTION WE COULD, BASED ON THE INFORMATION WE HAD EARLIER.
SO 9 47 IS UP HOW MUCH? 8 16, 9 47 MINUS EIGHT.
16 IS 1 20, 1 31 31, 1 31, 1 31.
WELL, I MEAN, OR IS THERE ANY OTHER OPTION THAN TO SAY YES.
WELL, YOU KNOW, THE BOTTOM LINE IS IT ENDS UP PARTNERING.
FUNDAMENTALLY THE CRIME IS JUST, IT'S A COST.
AND IT'S ALL, WHETHER IT'S JUVENILE OR ADULT.
I MEAN, EVERYBODY ELSE IS COMING IN.
THE CRIME RATE IS GOING STUPID AS THE POPULATION.
I MEAN, THAT WAS MY, WHAT OTHER OPTIONS OR WHAT TO SAY? YES.
JERRY, I THINK YOU GET YOUR ANSWER.
UH, WHEN I'M, WHEN I'M ON THIS PAGE, REALLY THE, OF ALL THE FUNDS.
AND I SAID THIS YESTERDAY, MOST THE MAJORITY OF THE FUNDS THAT WERE GOING THROUGH THEY'RE OFFSET BY REVENUES, THAT THOSE PARTICULAR FUNDS GENERATE.
SO IF WE SEE THAT THEY'RE GENERATING MORE MONEY THAN WE, WE EITHER ADJUST THEIR EXPENSES OR YOU ADJUST THEIR ENDING BALANCE.
SO THERE'S NO REAL IMPACT ON THE OVERARCHING COUNTY.
THERE ARE A FEW AND THEY'RE LISTED RIGHT HERE.
THESE ARE THE FUNDS THAT WE FUND.
SO THESE FUNDS COME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND PROBATION COUNTY.
WE TALKED ABOUT YESTERDAY, SOLID WASTE, INDIGENT HEALTHCARE, YOU GOT 81 AND 82 ARE GONE.
SO WE'RE OUT OF THOSE, UH, LAKE DAM, MAINTENANCE COMES OUT OF THEIR TRANSFER OVER THE JURY FUND IS NOW HAVE ITS OWN.
AND THEN THE ONE, UH, THE LAST ONE WE HAD WAS THIS ADJUSTMENT OVER TO, TO EMPLOY TUITION.
BUT IF YOU REMEMBER THAT MONEY COMES FROM BUYBACK.
AND SO, SO THAT MONEY WAS A WASH AS WELL.
SO IT'S REALLY IT'S LAKE DAM MAINTENANCE.
IT'S THE LIBRARY, IT'S INDIGENT
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HEALTHCARE, IT'S JUVENILE PROBATION IN SOLID WASTE.THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WE NEED TO ADJUST AND MAKE SURE WE'RE CALIBRATED ON.
WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT LIBRARY YESTERDAY.
I TOLD YOU ABOUT INDIGENT HEALTHCARE THAT I BELIEVE WE POTENTIALLY HAVE RISKS THERE.
I MEAN, WE, WE DON'T KNOW THOSE NUMBERS UNTIL NOT EVERYONE'S CALENDARS ON THE SAME AS OUR CALENDAR.
AND SO THOSE NUMBERS ARE CONSTANTLY IN FLUX, BUT TRAJECTORY TELLS US THAT WE MAY HAVE A SHORT FALL OF THIS YEAR.
AND IF WE HAVE A SHORT FALL OF THIS YEAR, THEN WE'LL NEED TO ADJUST THAT BACK UP.
AND SO THAT'S, AGAIN, YOU CAN CALL IT THE NEW TERM THAT THE JUDGE USED EARLIER ON STATE MANDATED TAXPAYER DOLLARS, BUT THAT'S THE WAY IT IS.
AND SO I'LL HAVE TO ADJUST THAT NUMBER, WHATEVER IT IS.
AND SO WHATEVER WE THINK IT IS, WE'LL PUT THAT IN THERE.
NOW I DO KNOW THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE, WE HAVE AN OUTSTANDING DIRECTOR WHO DOES A PHENOMENAL JOB OF, OF, OF, OF MANAGING THAT BUDGET.
AND SO WE'RE IN A VERY GOOD POSITION TO THE TOTAL TOTAL RISK THAT'S OUT THERE, BUT WE NEED TO, JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE TERM IS IT IS A STATE.
IT IS A STATE MANDATED AND PROPER LOCAL PROPERTY TAXES.
AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ENGINE HEALTHCARE.
I MEAN, WE'RE REALLY VULNERABLE.
YOU ARE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF OUR BUDGET.
YOU ARE, IF THEY CAN UPDATE, THEY CAN BANKRUPT JUST RIGHT THERE WITH THAT ONE SAME DAY, THE MOST IN HISTORY THAT WE HAD TO MOVE ON, YOU KNOW, ALTOGETHER TOTAL BUDGET OF LIKE ABOUT 450,000.
CAUSE SHE'S VERY CAREFUL ON THAT.
WE GOT HER THE LEXISNEXIS AND SHE CUT A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THAT NO, IT WAS GETTING THE HELP AND HAD REALLY HAD MONEY IN PROPERTY THAT COULD DO THAT.
SO SHE'S VERY DILIGENT ABOUT THAT.
AND SO THAT NUMBER'S GOING TO THAT NUMBER IS LIKELY GOING TO GO UP A LITTLE BIT.
I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT THAT NUMBER IS TODAY, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL GET THAT CALCULATED AS SOON AS WE, SINCE WE CAN PULL ALL THE MATH TOGETHER.
BUT THAT'S WHY ALSO WE ALWAYS KEEP A LITTLE BIT IN CONTINGENCY IS BECAUSE WE KNOW YOU'VE GOT, YOU'VE GOT CERTAIN EXPOSURES OUT THERE IN YOUR BUDGET.
SO HAVING SAID THAT IT'S REALLY THE ONLY ONE THAT'S HANGING OUT THERE THAT I'D LIKE TO GO OVER IS SOLID WASTE.
I MEAN, THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY ONE THAT'S LEFT THAT WE HAVEN'T ALL THE REST OF THESE AND I'LL SCROLL THROUGH THEM RELATIVELY SLOW.
SO, SO YOU COULD PAUSE ME, BUT THEY'RE ALL, THEY'RE ALL JUST GOING TO BE A PLUS OR A MINUS.
THERE'S NO IMPACT ON, ON A REVENUE DECISION.
THERE'S NO IMPACT ON A TAXING DECISION.
THEY ARE JUST SIMPLY MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE BALANCED.
UM, BRANDY AND I HAVE LOOKED AT THEM EVERY DAY.
WE'VE GONE THROUGH EVERY RECORD THAT WE HAVE.
ALL THE BONDS HAVE BEEN TRUED UP BASED UPON YOUR CURRENT, WHAT YOU'VE DRAWN FROM YOUR BONDS AND WHAT YOU HAVE PROJECTED TO SPEND AND INTEREST.
AND SO WE'VE GOT ALL THAT, ALL THE SUM OF ALL OF THOSE PARTS IS WHAT ENDS UP BEING INS.
AND THEN WE, WE PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION AND THE INS RATE GETS SET BASED UPON THE TAX OFFICE.
SO THEY THEY'VE DONE THAT CALCULATION, BUT ALL THE REST OF THESE THEY'RE JUST, THEY'RE JUST PLUS MINUS PLUS MINUS IS UP AND DOWN THE BOARD, THE CHILDREN'S SHELTER DIDN'T MOVE MUCH FROM AN OPERATING BUDGET.
SO, BUT THEN WE HAVE RODEN BRIDGE.
AND SO WE'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THOSE FOUR.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE LIBRARY, BUT I'M GOING TO SCROLL DOWN AND YOU CAN SEE ALL THE REST OF THESE ARE, OR WITH THIS ONE IS SOLID WASTE.
AND SO I WANT TO GO THROUGH THE SOLID WASTE.
IF YOU REMEMBER, UM, PURCHASING AGENT CAME TO COURT, UH, WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH A THIRD-PARTY VENDOR TO PROVIDE A SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT IN THE COUNTY.
THEY CHARGE US FOR WEEKEND EVENTS FOR THE COUNTY HALL OFF EVENTS, AND THEY CHARGE CONSUMERS TO BRING THINGS THROUGH THE GATES OF THEIR OTHER OPERATIONS.
SO THAT INCREASE WAS BROUGHT TO THE COURT AND IT WAS APPROVED.
SO I BAKED THAT INCREASE INTO HERE.
WE INCUR EXPENSES AT, AT KAUFMAN COUNTY STATION CONVENIENT STATION ONE, WHERE WE SELL TICKETS IN THE TAX OFFICE.
AND WE HAVE A PART-TIME EMPLOYEE THAT MANAGES THE GATE AND THOSE REVENUES THEN COME BACK AND OFFSET THOSE AND MEETING WITH COMMISSIONER HOT LAST SUMMER, THERE WAS SOME ADJUSTMENTS NEEDED THERE BECAUSE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT POTENTIALLY THE PRICE THAT WE'RE CHARGING IS NOT COVERING SOME OF OUR EXPENSES.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN BRING BACK BEFORE THE COURT, BUT THAT'S A SEPARATE CONVERSATION OF WHETHER WE LOOK AT THAT TICKETING.
WE DO THAT OPERATION IN COLLABORATION WITH THE CITY OF KAUFFMAN.
SO THERE WOULD, THERE WOULD BE SOME SOMEWHAT AND SOME ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS THERE, BUT THOSE REVENUES ARE UP.
THEY ARE UP, UH, YEAR OVER YEAR.
SO I'VE MADE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS IN THIS BUDGET AS WELL.
SO THIS BUDGET IS GROWING, UH, TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT PRICE INCREASE THAT THEY ASKED FOR THOSE EVENTS AND JUST OPERATING COST OF OPERATING THAT FACILITY ITSELF.
SO THAT'S UP FROM WHERE IT WAS.
SO LAST YEAR, I MEAN, LET ME GO INTO MY EXPENSES.
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SEPARATE ONE, YOU HAVE THE CONTRACTS.SO WE WERE AT TWO 17, WE'RE AT 2 47.
WE HAD THE CONVENIENCE STATION THAT WAS AT 88 UP AT THE 1 0 5.
AND SO THOSE ARE JUST COSTS OF OPERATING THE BUSINESS OF SOLID WASTE.
UM, THERE, THERE, THERE COULD BE A LITTLE BIT OF ROOM IN THERE, BUT AGAIN, UNLESS I THINK IT WILL ALL JUST BE UPSIDE BECAUSE IF WE, IF WE WERE TO MAKE ANY TYPE OF A PRICE ADJUSTMENT OR CONSIDER A PRICE ADJUSTMENT, THAT WOULD JUST BE MORE REVENUE COMING IN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT, WHICH WOULD FLOW THROUGH AND WE'D WASH OUT ANY UPSIDE IN COST.
AND SO THAT'S CONVENIENCE STATION ONE IT'S, IT'S IT, IT BRINGS IN THE REVENUE AND THEN IT HAS, IT HAS OVER A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE COST BECAUSE YOU HAVE A, YOU HAVE A PERSON THAT WORKS THERE AS WELL.
SO I DON'T THINK I'VE THERE'S ANYTHING OFF COMMISSIONER.
NO, I WAS JUST LIKE WE TALKED EARLIER IS THE NEW CONTRACT THAT THE CITY OF KAUFFMAN GOT WHAT THEIR NEW PROVIDER, THE OLD PROVIDER DID NOT, UM, CHARGED FOR EXTRA TONNAGE.
WE PACKED OUR, WE PACKED THE, UH, THE DOWNSTAIRS TO THE MAXIMUM THAT WE COULD AND THEY HAULED THEM OFF AND THEY DIDN'T CHARGE US FOR THE EXTRA TONNAGE.
WELL, THE NEW VENDOR THAT CAME IN IS CHARGING FOR THE UNDERLYING TONNAGE.
SO THAT IS THE LAST TWO BILLS TRULY MADE AN IMPACT.
AND I THINK THERE WAS JUST LIKE A MISUNDERSTANDING.
WHENEVER WE WERE HAVING TALKS WITH THE CITY ABOUT THE NEW CONTRACT, IT WAS GOING TO IMPACT OUR COST AT THIS CONVENIENCE STATION.
AND THEY ASSURED US THAT IT LOOKED LIKE HE WAS ALL THE SAME, BUT THEY DIDN'T ASK THE QUESTION ABOUT THE EXTRA TONNAGE.
THE BASE PAYMENT IS THE SAME AS IT WAS BEFORE.
AND THEY JUST, THE TERMS WAS JUST KIND OF, KIND OF, I GUESS, SLID IN SOMEHOW, BUT WE CAN SEE A BIG DIFFERENCE IN THE COST EVERY QUARTER.
AND INITIALLY WE WERE PAYING ABOUT 75% OF THE COST OF RUNNING THIS CONVENIENCE STATION HERE, ALTHOUGH BY NUMBERS AND COUPONS, THE COUNTY OR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE USING IT.
SO, YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE, WE'RE ALL PLAYING OUR PART.
SO, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S GOING TO BE A BIG IMPACT.
AND I THINK WHEN YOU HAVE TO ADJUST AND GO THROUGH THE STEPS AND OF COURSE THE DEAL, JERRY AND I MADE IT OCTOBER, OCTOBER 1ST, JERRY AND BOBBY TAKE OVER.
SO IT'S, UM, IT'S SOMETHING THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ON THEIR WATCH, HAVE TO DEAL WITH, TAKE IT PASS.
I GOT TO ROUGHLY PUT A PENCIL TO IT, THE LAST QUARTERLY PAYMENT.
AND I THINK IT NEEDS TO GO FROM SEVEN 50 TO $10 OR $11 A TICKET.
IT'S PRETTY MUCH PUTS US IN LINE WITH WHAT BLACKJACK IS CHARGING AT THEIR CONVENIENCE STATIONS.
YOU KNOW, SO, AND IT'S, AND THOSE ARE BREAKEVEN NUMBERS.
THAT'S NOT PADDING, YOU KNOW, OR ANYTHING ELSE BECAUSE ANOTHER BIG DISCUSSION WE HAVE TO HAVE IS WE'VE REALLY MADE TREMENDOUS STRIDES WITH THE, THE TIRE TRAILERS THAT WE HAVE COMING IN, YOU KNOW, FIVE TIMES A YEAR.
BUT THAT, I MEAN, LIKE SAY LIKE WE HAVE TIRES THAT SHERIFF'S OFFICES PICKED UP IN OUR PRECINCT THAT I HAVE TO GET TO PRECINCT FOUR BECAUSE THEY'RE HAVING TO CLEAN UP THIS WEEKEND.
SO MY GUYS EITHER, WHENEVER THE TRAINER GETS THERE TODAY OR TOMORROW, WE'VE GOT TO TRANSPORT TIRES TO PUT THEM IN THE TRAILER.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE SOLVED THAT INCONVENIENCE, WHERE ALL THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE TO TAKE THEIR TIRES AT THE COLLECT EVERY MONTH TO GET THEM TO, UH, TO THE, TO THE TRAILER OR JUST COLLECT THEM UNTIL IT COMES TO YOUR STATION AND JUST DO IT.
BUT IN THIS FIELD, WHETHER THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS GOT QUITE A FEW.
I THINK WE HAVE ABOUT A HUNDRED.
I THOUGHT WE HAD KIND OF DEAL.
OR I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO BRING ALL THE TIRES TO SOME TRAILERS HERE IN KAUFMAN, AND THEN THEY WOULD GO TO THE RECYCLER FROM HERE.
WELL, IT DIDN'T REALLY WORK OUT BECAUSE I THINK YOU PROVIDED US A TRAILER TO USE, THEN Y'ALL CAME BACK AFTER THE TRAILER.
WELL, THEY TOLD ME THAT WE TOOK IT BACK BECAUSE PARDON ME? CAUSE, UH, THERE WAS A REPLACEMENT TRAILER THAT WAS THERE AND THAT YOU WEREN'T USING OUR TRAILER.
BUT THERE WAS SOME, THE TRAILERS THAT CAME OUT OF TERRELL WERE COMING DOWN THERE AND THAT OUR TRAILER WOULDN'T BE IN USE.
THAT'S WHY WE FILLED IT THAT WE NEED TO TRY.
AND I MEAN, I'LL SEND THE TRAILER BACK NOW.
BUT ANYWAY, IT'S JUST WANT TO DO OUR PART, NO DOUBT WORKING OUT WITH US TO TAKE, WE JUST TAKE IT TO FORNEY.
CAUSE WE GET ALL THE SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES THAT GO OUT AND PICK UP, THEY BRING THEM HERE FOR CONVENIENCE.
THEY BRING IT BACK TO KAUFLIN.
WELL, THAT'S IN ALL SINCERITY.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD THAT THERE WAS A COUPLE OF TRAILERS THAT HAD BEEN FULL THAT WERE IN TERRELL THAT WERE THEN BEING BROUGHT DOWN HERE AFTER THEY WERE DUMPED.
THERE'S ONE TRAILER IN TERRELL THAT IS FULL DON'T EVEN KNOW
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WHO OWNS THE TRAILER.IT'S JUST WHAT WE WANT TO TRY TO SEND MY TRAILER FULL OF TIRES.
THAT'D BE GLAD TO BRING THE TRAILER BACK UP.
WE JUST LOAD THEM IN THE DUMP TRUCK AND WE'LL TAKE THEM DOWN THERE AND DO IT.
BUT IT IS AN ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE WORKED OUT.
IT NEEDS TO BE INSTITUTIONALIZED SOMEHOW.
AND ALL OF THIS STUFF HERE IS PEANUTS.
THE TIRE SITUATION IS VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE.
AND THERE'S NO, NO DOUBT, WONDERFUL ONE WRONG TIRE.
IT DOUBLES, WHICH IS RIDICULOUS.
OR PUT UP A HUB OR A WHEEL ON THE TIRE.
AND YOU'VE CONTAMINATED THE LOAD AND THEY PENALIZE US OUT OF IT.
IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE BLACK JACK, I MEAN, TO MAKE THIS A TURNKEY THING WHERE BLACK JACK HANDLES OUR TIRES OR IS THAT COST PROHIBITED? WELL, I MEAN, THEY'RE PAYING THE SAME THING.
WE WOULD BE PAYING PLUS A MARKUP.
I MEAN, AND THEY'RE DOING THAT.
WE'RE NOW ABLE TO TRY THERE'S FOR US NOW, BUT YOU KNOW, SEEING THE MONTHLY CLEANUP AND I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT IT BUMPED UP FOR THE TOWER.
SO WE STARTED THAT THIS PAST YEAR TO HAVE THE FIVE DIFFERENT TIRE TRAILERS COME, BUT IT'S ALSO AN OPTION TO DO THAT.
I MEAN, IT JUST TAKES, IT JUST TAKES AWAY FROM ROAD AND BRIDGE.
GUYS CAN BE OUT DOING ROAD AND BRIDGE WORK AND NOT TIRE HAULING WORK.
I WOULD SUGGEST THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND LOOK AT THE TAR, THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO OUTSOURCE SOLID WASTE, WE OUTSOURCE THE, WE, WE, WE FIGURED OUT THE ENTIRE PACKAGE AND YOU GET OUT OF THE SOLID WASTE BUSINESS AS A COUNTY AND YOU OUTSOURCE IT.
AND THEN AS THOSE CONTRACTS COME UP FOR RENEWAL, YOU EITHER RENEW THEM OR YOU ARE, YOU RFP THEM AGAIN AND YOU JUST, YOU JUST GET OUT OF SOLID WASTE.
SO THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE.
I THINK WE'RE, WE'VE, WE'VE MADE SIGNIFICANT INROADS IN THE LAST 24 MONTHS COMPARED TO WHERE WE WERE.
SO, SO IT'S JUST GOING TO BE AN EXPENSE THAT THE COUNTY HAS TO KNOW THAT FOR THE TAXPAYERS, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE CLEAN LENDERS OUT THERE AND A PLACE TO TAKE YOUR TRASH, IT DOESN'T COUNT.
AND SO WE HAVE TO, I THINK WE'VE GOT A VERY REASONABLE BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR AND WE'LL JUST HAVE TO KEEP YEAH.
AND THEY NEED TO KNOW THAT EVERY TIME THEY THROW A TIRE OUT ON THE ROAD, IT COSTS, IT COSTS THEM MONEY TAX DOLLARS.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, OKAY, SURE.
SO, SO WHAT'S, WHAT'S LEFT IS REALLY ROAD AND BRIDGE AND I'LL JUST, I'LL STAY HIGH LEVEL WITH IT BEING EACH OF THE BUDGETS ARE KIND OF THERE.
SO YOU'VE GOT THE, THE COUNTY ENGINEER HAS BEEN STRIPPED OUT.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE COUNTY ENGINEER IS ALL NOW ZEROS, THAT ENTIRE EXPENSE OF THAT DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN LIFTED INTO FUND 10 AND IT REPORTS UP INTO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
AND THEN THIS IS YOUR, THIS IS YOUR FUN TONY, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORDS, I CALL THIS, THIS IS YOUR HOLDING FUND.
THIS IS WHERE ALL YOUR, ALL YOUR REVENUES COME IN.
SO ALL YOUR REVENUES GO INTO HERE.
THE COUNTY AUDITOR THEN MANAGES FUND 20 AND THEN DELLS OUT.
MONEY'S OUT OF FUND 20 INTO THE INDIVIDUAL PRECINCTS, AS YOU KNOW, AS SHE MANAGES ALL THE OTHER, ALL THE OTHER BUDGETS.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT, AT YOUR FUND 20 BREAKDOWN OF HOW, HOW IT IS, SO YOU HAVE ALL YOUR DIFFERENT, ALL YOUR DIFFERENT TRANSFERS TO YOUR DIFFERENT PRECINCTS.
AND SO THIS IS YOU TAKE THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT COMES THROUGH THERE.
AND I HAVE SIMPLY TAKING THE PERCENTAGES, RIGHT? THAT YOU HAD, YOU HAD AN ADJUSTED, THOSE, THOSE, THOSE, YOUR MONIES WORK A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE WITHIN YOUR INDIVIDUAL BUDGETS, YOU HAVE CONTINGENCY DOLLARS OR UNSPENT DOLLARS THAT WE CAN'T PREDICT THOSE UNTIL WE GET TO A POINT IN TIME WHERE WE LOCK IN A NUMBER, BUT RIGHT NOW I'VE TAKEN WHAT YOU'RE GENERATING AND LEVIES AND YOUR CUT OF, OF THE TAX OFFICE KNOW TAX, TITLE, AND LICENSE, AND YOUR CUT OF TAXES.
AND I'VE TAKEN THE PERCENTAGES THAT THIS COURT ESTABLISHED LAST YEAR.
AND I'VE DELVED THAT MONEY OUT TO THOSE FOUR, TO THOSE FOUR PRECINCTS.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT DIRECTIONALLY FROM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S ALL I NEED TO KNOW IS NUMBER ONE, YOU GENERATE AND A BIG CHUNK OF THAT MONEY OUT OF TAX.
SO FIRST QUESTION IS THAT, IS THAT THE RIGHT NUMBER? AND THEN SECONDLY, HOW DO YOU WANT TO DIVIDE THOSE DOLLARS? WHAT HAS IT, SINCE I'VE BEEN RED 8%, RIGHT? THEY WOULD JUST SAY, IT SAYS, IT DOESN'T KNOW.
YOU'VE BEEN ADJUSTED DOWN, BUT I'D HAVE, I DON'T HAVE ANY OF YOUR CARRY OVER DOLLARS IN THERE.
WE'D HAVE TO COVER THAT AND DO THE SAME, BUT I HAVE TO COVER EVERYTHING.
YOU CARRY YOUR CARRY OVER DOLLARS WOULD HAVE TO COVER THAT GAP BASED UPON YOUR CURRENT BUDGETED DOLLARS, WHICH THEY WILL.
IF YOU HAVE THAT MUCH CARRY OVER, IF YOU DON'T, THEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO ADJUST YOUR BUDGET DOWN TO GET IT BACK TO ZERO.
WELL, I'LL LOOK AT IT KAREN, BECAUSE SEE CHEETOS.
BUT WHAT HE DID, HE TOOK THE CONTINGENT.
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SO NO EXACTLY THAT WE'RE JUST DEALING WITH.WHAT ARE THE DOLLARS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF YOUR OWN BUDGETS? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DOLLARS THAT YOU SPLIT THAT COMES INTO THE COUNTY.
THAT'S REALLY ALL I NEED TO KNOW.
THE REST OF THE DOLLARS ARE WITHIN YOUR OWN BUDGETS.
WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT DOLLAR IS.
AND WE'LL MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT SEPTEMBER BALES RIGHT AFTER YOU GET TO PAY IN SEPTEMBER.
AND MY SUGGESTION BECAUSE IN A YEAR HAS PASSED, THERE'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF AMBIGUITY AROUND HOW MUCH THERE'S GOING TO BE AND DO WE BUDGET FOR IT? MY SUGGESTION WAS LET'S JUST ZERO IT ALL OUT.
SO THAT ANYTHING THAT COMES IN GOES INTO YOUR CONTINGENCY FOR NEXT YEAR.
AND IF YOU HAVE AN UPSIDE DOWN, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE TO ADJUST YOUR BUDGET DOWN TO COVER ANY GAPS.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S HOW THAT WOULD WORK AND IT MAKES IT, AND I THINK THIS SHOWS THAT SHOWS THAT MATH IS WHAT I'M SHOWING, BUT I JUST NEED TO KNOW NUMBER ONE, YOUR, YOUR WAY YOU GET YOUR REVENUE.
A BIG CHUNK OF IT IS FROM TAXES.
SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO SET THE TAX PROPOSED TAX RATE TODAY.
HAVE THOSE PERCENTAGES LAST YEAR PERCENTAGES LAST YEAR I HAVE GIVE ME JUST ONE, ONE MOMENT.
I HAVE ONE ON MY SPREADSHEET, BUT I HAVE THEM RIGHT HERE.
SO 35 PRECINCT PRECINCT, FOUR WAS 35, 6 PRECINCT THREE WAS 25, 5 PRECINCT TUBES, 13, FOUR PRECINCT.
SO I'M THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM.
THAT'S ALL RIGHT WITH EVERYBODY.
I ASKED YOU ALL TO TRY TO HELP US THIS YEAR AND I UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY'S GOT THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES.
UH, PRECINCT FOUR IS JUST LOSING GROUND.
WE'RE STILL FLOUNDERING FROM SO MANY YEARS OF UNDERFUNDING.
AND SO MANY YEARS OF THE RESULT OF THAT, THE NEGLECT ON THE ROADS AND JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, WE HAVE AN INCREASE IN TRAFFIC AND TRAFFIC VOLUME IN NEW RESIDENTS.
AND EVEN WITH THE, EVEN WITH BOND MONEY, JUST OUR, OUR PORTION, OUR ROUTINE MAINTENANCE, UH, WE, WE ARE REALLY FLOUNDERING AND WE'RE PARTICULARLY FLOUNDERING WHEN IT COMES TO MANPOWER BECAUSE, UH, I, I JUST FILLED MY LAST VACANCY, WHICH, UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE, THOSE SITUATIONS ARE BASED ON THE SAME CHALLENGES THAT EVERYBODY ACROSS THE COUNTRIES, HAVING, TRYING TO GET SOMEBODY TO COME TO WORK, BUT WE FINALLY GOT A FULL SLATE OF PEOPLE, BUT, BUT WE HAVE IN THAT PRECINCT AND MAYBE ALL THE PRECINCTS, I DON'T KNOW, I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR MY, WE HAVE SO MANY GUYS THAT HAVE RACKED UP SO MUCH COMP TIME OVER THE YEARS AND, AND SO MUCH VACATION TIME THAT ON ANY GIVEN DAY, WE'RE LUCKY TO BE ABLE TO FIELD FIELD 14 OR 15 GUYS AND MANAGE JUST IS NOT ENOUGH TO MAKE, TO GET AHEAD.
AND SO THE ONLY WAY TO GET MORE PEOPLE THERE'S, I GOTTA HAVE MORE MONEY.
SO I'M JUST LIKE LAURA AND, AND, UH, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND EVERYBODY ELSE THAT I NEED SOME ADDITIONAL POSITIONS.
NOW I SUBMITTED A PROPOSED BUDGET AND WE SCRUBBED IT AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY COULD.
AND, YOU KNOW, IN THE PERFECT WORLD, I'D LIKE TO HAVE 10 NEW GUYS.
I NEED 10 MORE PEOPLE TO WORK ON THESE ROADS IN PRECINCT FOUR AND ACTUALLY START MAKING A NOTICEABLE IMPROVEMENT.
UM, SO ANYTHING, ANYTHING IN THAT ARENA IS, IS A POSITIVE.
UM, AND I AM JUST, WE ARE AT OUR WIT'S END TO, TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD AND TO ACTUALLY MAKE PROGRESS.
AND I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE THE SAME, UH, THE SAME ISSUES, BUT THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT, THAT WE ARE DRAMATICALLY BIGGER.
AND, AND ADMITTEDLY, WE HAVE, WE GET MORE MONEY ALREADY, BUT IT'S SIMPLY NOT ENOUGH.
IT'S SIMPLY NOT ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO, TO ACTUALLY PROVIDE THE KIND OF ROADS THAT OUR CITIZENS DESERVE.
AND WE GENUINELY HAVE ROADS THAT ARE JUST UNSAFE.
WE'RE SPENDING RIGHT NOW ON AVERAGE 30 GRAND EVERY MONTH BETWEEN 20 AND 30 GRAND, JUST IN PATCHING MATERIAL.
AND OF COURSE, THAT'S BEEN ALL EXACERBATED THIS YEAR, UH, WITH ALL THE FREEZES AND THEN ALL THE SPRING RAINS.
AND, AND, UH, AGAIN, I KNOW EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OPINION.
I THINK WE GET MORE WATER THAN ANYBODY.
WE HAVE CONSTANT COMPLAINTS ABOUT WATER.
I NEVER HAD WATER IN MY YARD BEFORE NOW.
THE WATER IS ALMOST UP TO MY PORCH AND, AND THE BAR DITCHES JUST ARE NOT A FLOOD CONTROL ISSUE, BUT BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH MORE
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WATER, THE, IT, IT, IT JUST TEARS THE ROADS UP.SO EVEN THE PRIORITIES THAT WE TRY TO SET WHEN WE BUDGET THROUGH THE YEAR, WHAT ROADS WE'RE GOING TO MAKE, WE'RE CONSTANTLY HAVING TO SHIFT TO GO OUT AND DROP THIS PROJECT AND RUN OVER HERE AND FIX THIS ROAD, OR PUT IN A NEW CULVER OR PUT IN A TANK CAR.
UM, AND, AND THE REALITY IS WITH SO MUCH WATER IN OUR PRECINCT, EVEN TALKING, I HAD, I HAD MATT AND TNP IN MY OFFICE THIS MORNING, ALONG WITH THE COUNTY ENGINEER, MANY OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE ARE ALREADY, UH, HAVE ON THE TABLE SHOULD BE ASPHALT ROADS.
AND WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THE ABILITY TO PUT AN ASPHALT ROAD DOWN.
SO, UM, I AM A GENUINELY IN NEED OF SOME ADDITIONAL REVENUE OUT OF THIS ROAD AND BRIDGE BUDGET.
I'LL SAY THAT, UH, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE LINES ARE GOING TO CHANGE.
SO THERE'S AN UNKNOWN OUT THERE.
AND I, WE DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHEN THE LINES MIGHT CHANGE.
IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR ROAD, BUILDING SEASON, OR AT THE BEGINNING OF A ROAD BILL TO SAY SOME NEXT YEAR, RIGHT.
IF IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE EARLY NEXT YEAR, UM, Y'ALL MIGHT NOT EVEN HAVE Y'ALL'S ELECTION UNTIL CHRISTMAS TIME THINKING ABOUT, I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT THE VARIOUS INPUTS.
SO THE, THE NUMBERS ARE SUPPOSED TO COME OUT WHEN THE END OF THIS MONTH, RIGHT.
AUGUST 15TH IS WHEN WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GET CENSUS NUMBERS.
UH, AND THEN IT HAS TO GO TO THE LEGISLATURE TO WORK ON IT.
I THINK, UH, I THINK THE PRIMARY IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE IN, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF ALL THE DIFFICULT THINGS THAT I'VE READ FROM DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
THE PRIMARY IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE IN MAY.
SO THE ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION, EDUCATE ME HERE.
THIS NEXT ELECTION WILL BE THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE NEW LINES ARE THE OLD LINES, THE NEW LINES, THE NEW LINES ARE MOST EFFECTIVE, JANUARY 1ST OR WHATEVER, BUT YEAH, SO REALLY NEW LINES.
SO I GUESS I THINK WE ALL JUST LEAVE IT LIKE IT IS UNTIL WE COME TO SOME TYPE OF WHERE THIS IS ALL GOING TO PAN OUT, AS FAR AS OUR ROAD AND WHAT ROADS WE HAVE.
I MEAN, WHY DON'T YOU TAKE A PAN? WHY DON'T WE HAVE TO ALLOCATE ALL THE MONEY AT ONE TIME INSTEAD OF DO IT BY QUARTER? THAT'S AN AUDITOR QUESTION.
I DON'T, I DON'T GIVE IT TO THEM ALL AT ONE TIME.
I MEAN, AS FAR AS BUDGETING GOES, ALLOCATE IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE, WE DON'T HAVE TO ALLOCATE IT ALL TO THE PRECINCTS.
AT ONE TIME WE CAN DO A QUARTERLY OR A HALF YEAR ALLOCATION OR SOMETHING.
NORMALLY THEY'VE GOT TO HAVE MONEY TO OFFER.
THEY USE WHAT THEY HAVE CARRIED OVER CHILDREN, TAX MONEY DESKS, FEBRUARY.
SO WHAT HAPPENED? JUST GET DRUNK.
IT DEPENDS ON THE STEEL, DEPENDING ON THE LENSES LATER.
I MEAN, WHAT THEY, I GUESS WHAT I, WHAT I WAS TRYING TO ADDRESS IS THE FACT IS WHEN THE LINES CHANGE, THE BUDGETS GOT THE BUDGET ALLOCATION HAS GOT TO CHANGE.
SO IF, I MEAN, I CAN'T REALLY IMAGINE THAT MY PRECINCT IS GOING TO GET MUCH SMALLER.
UH, BUT, UH, AND I EXPECT IT TO GET A LITTLE BIGGER.
UM, I THINK THAT'S A GIVEN, I THINK THAT THE POPULATION GROWTH IN PRECINCT TWO IS GONNA, IS GOING TO SHRINK THAT PRECINCT A LITTLE BIT.
I DON'T DOUBT THAT IT, THAT IT CALLS FOR THE LAW IS VERY CLEAR.
WE ALL HAVE TO SAY IT THE SAME NUMBER OF PEOPLE, YOUR PRE-THINK IS GOING TO SHRINK.
JUST LIKE MINE'S GOING TO SHRINK THE ONE.
AND TWO IS DEFINITELY GOING TO GROW.
I MEAN, ONE AND ONE AND THREE IS GOING TO GROW.
I DON'T THINK I HAVE A BIG INFLUX AND IT'S GONNA CHANGE YOUR DAY.
BELIEVE ME, WE'LL SEE ABOUT THAT.
BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THIS, THAT NOTHING ABOUT THIS BUDGET PITCH THAT I'M MAKING HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH ELECTABILITY.
I AM GENUINELY NOT CONCERNED ABOUT, I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THAT.
I MEAN, JUST LIKE TERRY LOST ROADS, ROAD MILES, WHENEVER POETRY CREDITED THERE INCORPORATED EITHER CITY OR TOWN OR WHATEVER IT IS, BUT IT'S NOT WORTH RIGHT NOW TO JOCKEY DOLLARS FOR, YOU KNOW, 50 MILES A ROW.
BUT WHENEVER WE GET THE FINAL NUMBERS, THEN WE'LL HAVE TO CHOCKY THE PERCENTAGES OR WHATEVER TO WHETHER IF YOU GET MORE, MORE MILES, YOU GET MORE MONEY.
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NEED TO GET CLARITY THERE AND WE CAN OPERATE THIS YEAR.AND THEN LIKE, IN MY RIGHTS, I DON'T EVEN KNOW ANY DOUBT IN THE, IN THE LAST, LAST CHANGE.
WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY DID THE ELECTION, YOU DIDN'T SWEAR IN THE NEW OFFICE UNTIL JANUARY, BUT THEY TOOK THE, THE, UH, ROMANS AND CHANGED THE MINIMUM IN THE BUDGET YEAR OR THE WORDS THEY DIDN'T CHANGE THEM DURING JUNE AND JULY, THEY JUST WENT TO SEPTEMBER AND JAMESON.
WELL, WHAT DOES THAT GOT TO DO WITH THAT PRECINCT FOR TODAY? NEEDS MORE MONEY? WHAT, AND THIS MEANS THAT WE'RE NOT REALLY GOING TO CHANGE ANYTHING IF WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THE ELECTION UNTIL IN YOUR RIDE, BUT I JUST STILL THINK WE'RE TWO MONTHS AWAY TILL WE GET TO THAT POINT.
I MEAN, MY PITCH TO YOU IS BASED ON NO CHANGE.
WHAT I'M SAYING, I'M SAYING NO TO YOU AND JUST LEAVE IT LIKE IT IS UNTIL WE GET NEW LINES.
WELL THAT, I MEAN, I'M TELLING YOU, I'M SAYING YES TO ME, BECAUSE I KNOW BECAUSE EVEN IF NOTHING CHANGES, IF, IF SOME MIRACLE HAPPENED AND THE PRECINCT LINES DIDN'T CHANGE OR, UH, UH, ROAD LANE MILES DIDN'T CHANGE, THE CITIZENS OF A THIRD OF THIS COUNTY ARE BEING DISSERVICE BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROAD AND BRIDGE MONEY TO ADEQUATELY ADDRESS THEIR ROAD.
IT'S A THIRD OF THE SYSTEM AND THIRD OF THIS COUNTY AND THE THIRD ONE, THIRD OF THE GEOGRAPHY OF THIS ONE, THIRD OF THE GEOGRAPHY OF THIS COUNTY.
AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT LANE MILES, I MEAN, I'LL PUT MY 300 AGAINST YOUR 55 ANY DAY.
I JUST THOUGHT WE'D JUST LEAVE IT THE ASIDE FOR RIGHT NOW, LEAVE THE ALLOCATION.
WELL, I'M CLEARLY I VOTED, BUT I'M TELLING YOU, I OBJECT TO THAT BECAUSE IT'S THE, THE, THE LAW REQUIRES THAT THIS COMMISSIONER'S COURT CONSIDER THE OVERALL CONDITIONS OF THE ROAD IN THE ENTIRE COUNTY WHEN THEY ALLOCATE THE MONEY.
THAT'S WHAT THE STATUTE REQUIRES.
AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE'RE MEETING THAT BECAUSE THE, THE CONDITIONS OF THE ROADS AND PRECINCT FOUR ARE BAD, AND THEY ARE DETERIORATING DESPITE OUR BEST EFFORTS AND MUCH IMPROVED BUDGET MANAGEMENT AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
UH, THERE, THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE RESOURCES FOR THAT PORTION OF THE COUNTY.
SO I'M JUST ON RECORD AS SAYING THAT, UM, WE'RE A LITTLE BIT HAMSTRUNG HERE.
I WISH THE COMMISSIONER BARBARA WERE ABLE TO BE HERE, BUT I THINK HE MIGHT'VE INDICATED IT TO JERRY ALREADY.
AND THEY CALLED ME AND SAID, OH MAN, JUST SAY THAT HE WAS HAPPY.
HE DID RECOGNIZE THAT HE HAD GIVEN UP A FEW MILES TO POETRY.
AND IF THAT NEEDED TO BE WORKED INTO THE MATH, CERTAINLY HE WAS OPEN TO PUTTING THAT INTO THE MATH.
CAN YOU SAY HOW MANY MILES IT WAS? I WANT TO SAY IT WAS EIGHT.
I DON'T THINK IT WAS, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT WORTH IT AND LET YOU KNOW UNTIL WE GET FINAL NUMBERS AND WE KNOW, AND WE'VE GOTTA LIVE WITH IT FOR 10 YEARS, YOU KNOW? SO, AND WE'LL MAKE YOU WANT ME TO JUST PITCH IT BACK TO ME.
AND THEN, SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS I'M, UH, I'M GOING TO LEAVE THE ALLOCATIONS THE WAY THAT I HAVE THEM RIGHT NOW.
NOW WITH THE SECOND QUESTION IS TOTAL REVENUE.
AND SO WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT TOTAL REVENUE.
THAT'S GENERATED BY TASKS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO SET A PROPOSED TAX RATE.
AND THE ONLY WAY I, THE BEST WAY I KNOW TO DO THAT IS FOR, LET ME BRING UP A TAX RATE WORKSHEET, AND LET ME SHOW YOU EXACTLY WHAT THE MATH IS.
AND THIS IS SOLELY ROAD AND BRIDGE.
NOW THIS WILL BE THE ENTIRE TAX RATE INTACT.
CAN YOU SEPARATE THE ROAD AND BRIDGE BROKEN OUT ON THE SHEET? OKAY.
SO WE CAN SEE THE REVENUE, WHATEVER.
SO IF THAT'S OKAY WITH THE COURT, I'LL, I'LL CLOSE THIS OUT.
WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE IN THE BUDGET TO TALK ABOUT BECAUSE I JUST I'LL DO THE SAME ALLOCATION.
IF THE DOLLAR GOES UP OR THE DOLLAR GOES DOWN, I'LL DO THE EXACT SAME ALLOCATIONS THAT WE HAVE.
WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND.
WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE COURT IS WHATEVER ADJUSTMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED.
I WILL ADDRESS COMMITTED FUND BALANCE OR TAX REVENUE.
IF WE DECIDE TO TAX REVENUE, I'LL MAKE THE REST OF THE ADJUSTMENTS AND COMMITTED FUND BALANCE.
AND WE'LL BRING THAT TO A BALANCED BUDGET.
SO NEXT IS A TAX RATE OVERVIEW SHEET THAT I, THAT I USE THIS AS AN INTERNAL DOCUMENT THAT THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE HELPED WITH YEARS AGO.
I'LL START OUT HERE TO THE RIGHT.
YOU SEE MY, MY ACRONYMS IN NR AND V O N N R STANDS FOR NO NEW REVENUE V STANDS FOR VOTER APPROVAL.
THESE ARE CALCULATIONS THAT COME FROM
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OUR TAX OFFICE, OUR TAX OFFICE SETS ALL OF THESE RATES BASED UPON ALL THE VARIABLES OF ABOUT 25 PAGES OF PAPERWORK THAT TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION EXEMPTIONS AND SALES TAX AND TIPS AND TERS AND REBATES AND ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT APPLY TO, TO, TO THE TAXING ENTITY.SO AS AN ENTITY, PROPERTY VALUE TAXABLE TOP RATED VALUE FOR M AND O IS 12 MILLION, 6 77, 9 26, 2 67, 4239 TO 22.
YOU CAN LOOK AT OUR ADOPTED BUDGET FROM LAST YEAR, AND YOU'LL NOTICE IN REVENUE.
THAT'S THE EXACT NUMBER THAT WE ADOPTED LAST YEAR, 42 MILLION OH 39, 2 22.
BASED UPON WHAT THE COURT HAS TOLD ME SO FAR, YOU'VE SAID 5%.
YOU CAN SEE MY FORMULA EQUALS 11 TIMES 1.05.
THAT IS 5% GROWTH BASED UPON THAT TAX AND THE WAY THEY WORK, FREEZE TAX.
YOU HAVE A PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE THAT OWN PROPERTY THAT NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO WITH TAXES, THEIR TAXES ARE FROZEN IN CERTAIN CATEGORIES.
SO THAT, THAT THE APPRAISAL OFFICE PROVIDES YOU WITH WHAT YOUR FREEZE TAX IS GOING TO BE.
AND THAT NUMBER IS WHAT THAT NUMBER IS.
IT DOES FLUCTUATE SOME, BUT THEY PROVIDE THAT GUIDANCE.
5% GENERATES 2.10 1, 9 61 MORE IN REVENUE.
THAT TAX RATE IS 0.3, 1, 1 0 6, 8.
NO NEW REVENUE IS 0.3 1 9 4 2 8.
VOTER APPROVAL RATE IS 0.3, 3 0 6 0 7.
I'LL SCROLL DOWN TO ROAD AND BRIDGE ROAD AND BRIDGE.
THAT'S WHAT WE ADOPTED IN OUR BUDGET LAST YEAR FOR REVENUE.
5% GROWTH ON THAT BRINGS IT TO 11 MILLION, 3 75 0 0 4, PROPERTY BIAS OR ROAD AND BRIDGE ARE A LITTLE HIGHER BECAUSE THEY DON'T ALL THE, SOME OF THOSE TERMS AND THINGS DON'T APPLY TO THE SPECIAL ROAD AND BRIDGE TAX.
THAT'S 13 MILLION, 1 97 FOR 27 FREES TAX ADJUSTMENTS.
YOU'RE NO NEW REVENUE IS 0.0 8 0 3 5 1.
YOUR VOTER APPROVAL IS 0.0 8 3 1 6 3.
DEBT FUND IS DEBT FUND INS IS EXEMPT FROM ALL, ALL, ALL VOTER APPROVAL.
THAT, THAT SERVICE, I W I N S IS EXEMPT FROM THOSE.
THAT HARD NUMBER IS 8 MILLION, $737,276 THAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO THAT.
THAT'S WHAT THE TAX CALCULATION.
SO THAT ANY SCHOOL IS 0.0 6, 8 9 1 7.
YOU GET 0.4 5 9, 9 4 1, WHICH IS A 0.0 4, 5 0 1 6, DECREASE IN THE TAX RATE OVER PRIOR YEAR OR MINUS 8.91%.
YOUR TOTAL, NO NEW REVENUE IS 0.0 4, 6 8 6 9 6.
VOTER APPROVAL IS 0.0 4 8 2 6 8 7.
THAT'S WHAT THE COURT INSTRUCTED OUT OF THE GATE.
THAT'S WHAT THAT NUMBER EQUATES TO IN DOLLARS.
THAT'S THE SAME MATH THAT I'VE BEEN USING.
YOU'LL SEE THIS EXACT SAME NUMBER FLOW INTO OPENGOV.
WE, WE DO MAKE REASONABLE ADJUSTMENTS FOR COLLECTION RATES.
SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE VERY, MY TYPICALLY YOU DON'T, THE TAX OFFICE IS AT 97.2% TOTAL COLLECTIONS.
AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR, YOU HAVE YOUR PAST DUES THAT YOU'VE PUT IN THERE.
SO THE TWO TOGETHER, GET YOU BACK TO YOUR NUMBER.
SO ALL MATH CONSIDERED, IT KEEPS YOUR MATH WHOLE, BUT THOSE, THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS AS WE SEE, SO ON THE ROAD AND BRIDGE, OKAY.
SO THAT'S HOW MUCH THIS, I MEAN, WE CAN THAT'S ROAD AND BRIDGE ROAD AND RIDGE THAT'S 5%, 5% EQUALS 541,000 SIX HUNDRED AND SIXTY SIX, SIXTY $7.
SO IF WE WENT UP, HOW MUCH WOULD GENERATE AT LEAST ANOTHER MAN, MAN, FOR PRECINCT, FOR HIS OUT OF HIS PERCENTAGE, IF WE WENT UP A LITTLE BIT ON THE TAX RATE, DEPENDS ON WHICH MAN IT IS.
AND SO AN AVERAGE, AN AVERAGE LOADED SALARY IS ABOUT $60,000.
KAREN, IS THAT PRETTY FAIR FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE? LOADED SALARY IS ABOUT $60,000 SKILLED OPERATOR, MAYBE A LITTLE MORE SURE.
I THOUGHT IN THAT CLASS THAT Y'ALL HAD SET UP.
SO I THINK FOR MATH PURPOSES, $65,000 FOR A LOADED SALARY OF A, OF A PERSON, WHAT NUMBER SAYING 36% OF THAT NUMBER
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WOULD BE $60,000.WOULD WE HAVE TO GO UP TO GET EVERYBODY? WELL, LET ME JUST DO SOME SMALL MATH FOR YOU.
SO IF YOU WENT UP A HALF PERCENT, IF YOU WENT FROM FIVE TO FIVE AND A HALF PERCENT, YOU'RE AT 5 41.
SO YOU GET 50,000 DIE EVERY HALF PERCENT ABOUT $50,000 AND DIVIDED, NOT EVEN FOUR WAYS, JUST GIVE IT ALL TO PRICING FOR YOU'D HAVE $50,000 OR WHATEVER THAT MATH IS.
AND FOR EVERY HALF PERCENT, THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD DO.
WHAT'S THE HIGHEST TAX RATE WE CAN DO HERE.
ROAD AND BRIDGE IS 0.0 8 3 1 6 1.
THAT NUMBER RIGHT THERE THAT OH, 8 0 8 3 1 6 3.
NOW I'VE JUST, JUST SO I'M COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT.
YOU CAN PUT WHATEVER TAX RATE YOU WANT.
THAT IS NOT MY DECISION TO MAKE.
I'M JUST TELLING YOU THE RULES ON VOTER APPROVAL IS IF YOU COULD EXCEED THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE, IT IT'S SUBJECT TO GO ON THE BALLOT.
IT'S SUBJECT IT'S SUBJECT TO THOSE.
I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING THAT, UH, AND I, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST GONNA THROW THIS IN THERE BECAUSE WHENEVER WE WERE DOING THE SOLID WASTE THING, I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING, A BLACKJACK CASTRO FOR THREE AND A HALF PERCENT INCREASE.
UM, FOR ME THAT CONFIRMS THAT THE NUMBER THAT WE'VE BEEN USING AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THE NEEDS THAT Y'ALL WERE TALKING ABOUT, BUT THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE COULD INCREASE OUR REVENUE, UH, 15% AND WE COULD SPEND THAT.
UH, BUT HOW MUCH DO WE NEED TO INCREASE THE BURDEN ON OUR TAXPAYERS? BUT I THINK THAT IT IS ROAD AND BRIDGES.
IT STILL IS THE TAX INCREASE TO THE BEEF.
I KNOW IT'S NOT MUCH, IT'S NOT, BUT WE'VE GOT 150,000 PEOPLE HAVE INCREASED AT 150,000.
BUT YOU KNOW, THE ROADS ARE A BIG, BIG DEAL.
WHEREAS EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE MANDATED, YOU KNOW, INDIGENT HEALTH CARE DOES JUVENILE PROBATION.
DOESN'T JUST FOR CLARITY THAT WE DON'T HAVE 150,000 PEOPLE THAT USE COUNTY ROADS IN THE COUNTY EITHER.
I MET WITH HIM THREE OR 400, BUT I BET YOU, EVERY ONE OF THEM PLAYS A ROLE IN FRENCH TAX.
WELL, I MEAN, I'M TALKING ABOUT ALL THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN A DEVELOPMENT OR PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN A CITY.
SO THEY TOUCHED COUNTY ROAD, EVERYBODY IN FORNEY TOUCHES COUNTIES ALMOST.
WHEN DOES SOMEBODY LIVE IN WINDOW HORN DRIVE OVER COUNTY ROAD OR THEY DRIVE, WELL, THEY DRIVE ON UNIVERSITY 5 48.
I MEAN, AWFUL, AWFUL READER AND READER.
I THINK THAT 150,000 NUMBERS, NOT A FAIR NUMBER, BUT YEAH, JUST, WELL, I MEAN, THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN MY, MY, MY RENEWED POINTS KEY TO SAID.
AND I MEAN, I, DON'T NOT TRYING TO GET INTO AN ARGUMENT WITH YOU.
I'M JUST TRYING TO LOOK OUT FOR MY PRECINCT IS THAT I RECOGNIZE IN YOUR PRECINCT THAT YOU HAVE A HUGE POPULATION, BUT I THINK A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THEM ARE ACTUALLY ON COUNTY ROADS.
THEY'RE ON CITY ROADS AND FM ROADS AND, AND THE INTERSTATE AND MUD ROADS.
WHEREAS IN MY PRECINCT, ALMOST EVERYBODY IS ON A COUNTY ROAD EVERY DAY.
I JUST WANT TO ADD SOME CLARITY TO, OKAY.
UM, I'M FIXING THE FUND TURN LANE ON, ON, ON THE FM ROAD.
THE RED LIGHT, BUT THAT'S ALL ROAD AND BRIDGE MONEY.
UH, TERRY, DID YOU HAVE, IT IS JUST, JUST FOR INFORMATION, UH, HE'S DOPE.
CAUSE HE WOULD FORGOTTEN ABOUT THE ADDITIONS TO THE CITY OF TERRELL.
HE SAID HIS ROAD MILES HAVE GONE DOWN FROM 200 TO A HUNDRED.
WELL, WHAT ABOUT THIS? THAT'S CERTAINLY THAT I WOULD THINK, I WOULD ASSUME HE WOULD AGREE THAT WOULD AFFECT HIS ALLOCATION.
BUT WHAT ABOUT THIS? EVEN THOUGH I, EVEN THOUGH I REALLY GENUINELY NEED 10 MORE BODIES.
I DIDN'T THINK I WAS GOING TO GET 10, BUT WHAT IF WE ADJUST THIS TAX RATE ENOUGH TO GIVE ME 130 GRAND TO ADD TWO GUYS YOU'VE ALREADY GOT FOUR, RIGHT? YOU ASKED FOR IN THE BUDGET.
THERE'S NOTHING AND NO, NO POSITIONS FOR NO, I GOT NO IN THIS BUDGET.
NO, HE CAN ONLY WANTS, BUT HE HAS TO TAKE IT UP MONEY ONLY HIS OWN LAND.
NOT ADDED ANY ROAD AND BRIDGE POSITIONS AT THIS POINT.
NO, THAT'S, THAT'S JUST, THAT'S KEEPING IT THE SAME, WHICH IS WHAT YOU GUYS SAID.
WELL, I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE ALLOTMENT I TALKED TO YOU CAUSE I'M AN, I ASKED FOR ONE.
WOULD YOU LIKE FOR ME TO DO THE MATH? WHAT IS THE OVERALL NEXT TAX RIGHT? THAT WE CAN HAVE.
HE LOST THAT OVERALL MAX TAX RATE IS 0.4 8 2 6 8 7 0.1 0.687.
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RODEN BRIDGE HAS A STAND ALONE.YOU CANNOT COMBINE RODEN BRIDGE TAX RATE WITH M AND O TAX RATES.
I KNOW THAT COMING UP WITH ANOTHER DREAM.
SO, SO YOU HAVE BEEN DOING THIS SCRAP FOR 30 SOMETHING YEARS.
SO IF I BUMPED THIS UP TO AGAIN, I'M GOING TO TAKE THIS BACK DOWN.
SO WE HAVE THAT A HARD NUMBER.
I'M GOING TO GET THE HARD NUMBER TRACKING LOWER.
THE OVERALL TAX RATE ALSO DO IS LIVE WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF GIVE OUR COUNTY A CERTAIN RAISE, WHICH IS THE TARGET THAT WE SET WAS 5% IN REVENUE.
NO, I THINK WHEN YOU START THROWING THE TAX RATE STUFF AROUND, UH, IT'S CONFUSING.
I THINK IT'S CONFUSING, BUT I THINK SO IF WE COULD STICK WITH THAT CONCEPT, HOW MUCH MORE DOLLARS DO WE NEED TO OPERATE THE COUNTY? AND IT'S NOT HOW MUCH MORE DOLLARS CAN WE COLLECT BECAUSE WE CAN COLLECT A LOT MORE.
BUT YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, BLACK, JACK'S ASKING FOR THREE AND A HALF PERCENT, SO THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR, YOU KNOW, SIX OR SEVEN OR EIGHT.
NO, BUT YOU, YOU CAN RACE TO THE ROAD AND BRIDGE TAX RATE, BUT YOU COULD THE GENERAL FUND AND THE GENERAL FUND COULD LONG ROAD AND BRIDGE MONEY.
WELL, WE'RE AT FIVE, BUT WE'RE AT A 5% REVENUE INCREASE IN GENERAL AND YOUR ROOM AND ROAD AND BRIDGE TO DO IT NOW.
I MEAN, I BUMPED THE TOP, LOOK, THIS IS A, THIS IS A SIX AND A HALF PERCENT INCREASE IN ROAD.
THE, THE, THE, SO THE PROPOSAL THAT, WHAT, WHAT, AND THAT GIVES YOU ALL THAT IS ASKING FOR IS A HUNDRED.
AND WE RAISED THAT TAX RATE TO GIVE HIM A C POSSESSION PER PERCENT TO GIVE HIM TWO NEW POSITIONS THAT BRINGS YOUR TAX RATE UP ANOTHER $162,500.
BASED UPON THESE CALCULATIONS.
IF THE COURT AGREED TO GIVE ALL 1 62, 5 TO PRECINCT FOUR, THEN WE'RE, WE'RE THERE.
THAT'S WHAT THAT IS IS THAT'S, THAT'S A FIVE, THAT'S A 5% INCREASE IN REVENUE IN RODEN BRIDGE OR IN AN M AND O THAT'S A SIX AND A HALF PERCENT INCREASE IN ROAD AND BRIDGE INS IS WHAT INS IS.
YOUR TOTAL TAX RATE WILL BE 0.4 6 1 1 7 2, WHICH IS 4.30 CENTS LESS THAN THIS YEAR OR AN 8.67 DECREASE IN TAX.
WELL, THE ALLOCATION SHOULD BE JUST A SECOND BEFORE I LOSE THIS, FRANKLY, THE ALLOCATION IS TO SOME EXCHANGES BASED ON A FORMULA THAT WE DID TWO YEARS AGO, RIGHT? IT IS OKAY.
AND IF WE'RE STILL USE THAT FORMULA AS ARE, YOU'RE SAYING WE'RE NOT, I MEAN, WHAT MIKE WAS SAYING IS WE WON'T CHANGE ANYTHING.
BUT IF, IF WHAT TERRY SAYS THAT HE'S GONE FROM 200 AND 100 MILES OF ROADS, WE MIGHT WANT TO RE-LOOK AT THAT, THE ALLOCATE NOT COMING.
WE'RE NOT REALLY TALKING ABOUT CHANGE ON THAT A HUNDRED MILES.
BUT WE'RE NOT REALLY ALLOCATING MONEY TODAY.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, I MEAN, WE ARE IN DISCUSSION THAT WE'RE NOT, WE COULD ASK HIM WHEN HE CAN, WHENEVER WE'LL MEET WITH HIM AGAIN, HE COULD, THAT WOULD, THAT COULD CHANGE SOME OF THE MORE THE SPLIT.
IT DOESN'T GIVE YOU THE LIFT THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
I'D BE DIVIDING TERRY'S DOLLARS AMONGST THE THREE.
WELL, YOU'LL BE USING THE FORMULA FOR YOUR ROLE.
IT WOULDN'T CAUSE THEIR ROLE CHANGE, ANY BEHAVIORS, YOU KNOW, THAT, WHATEVER, WHATEVER HE LOSES I'M I'M STILL CONCERNED THAT SOMEBODY'S MISCALCULATE MILES.
I'M STILL HAVING A HARD TIME BELIEVING HE LOST A HUNDRED MILES.
WHICH IS WHAT HE SAID ON THE SHIP TEXTBOOK.
WHAT ABOUT THIS? I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE THAT HE SAID THAT.
AND SO LET'S KIND OF SHOW OFF THAT PART OF THE DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW.
WHAT IF, IF IT'S, IF WE COULD LIVE WITH THIS 1 62 5 INCREASE, HOW ABOUT IF I PROPOSE THAT YOU GIVE ME ONE 20 OF IT BECAUSE YOU WANT A POSITION AND I'LL GIVE YOU THE 42 5 OR, I MEAN, AND YOU TAKE THE 42 5 AND I'LL I'LL PLUS UP TWO POSITIONS AND ADJUST MY INTERNAL BUDGET TO FUND THE REST.
MA'AM MA'AM I DON'T, I DON'T MIND THAT.
JUST BECAUSE I THINK MINE WAS LIKE 45, WAS IT? I DON'T REMEMBER THAT.
I ASKED FOR A CLASS FOUR, SO I, SO I'D HAVE THE LATITUDE TO HIRE THAT EXPERIENCED GUY THAT WALKS IN, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU DREAM ABOUT.
IS THAT CLEAR WITH EVERYBODY? I'VE GOT THE MATH.
SO, SO JUST TO RESTATE, BUT IF, IF TERRY COMES BACK AND WANTS TO GIVE UP PRESENT, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, YOU CAN HAVE THAT.
UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW? ALL RIGHT.
HE SAYS HE'S LOSING A HUNDRED MILES.
YOU KNOW, I'M JUST SAYING I CAN USE MONEY TOO, BUT
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WELL, I MEANT, I MEAN, THAT'S YEAH.I I'M WILLING TO NEGOTIATE THIS.
GOT A DEAL THERE THAT YOU CAN, IF THAT'S RIGHT.
THE SPLIT STARTED GETTING AWAY FROM THE MILEAGE FORMULA TOO MUCH.
DIDN'T WELL, I WAS IN TROUBLE WITH THE MILEAGE.
IS THAT TRUMP, AS YOU CAN'T JUST NECESSARILY DO MILEAGE BECAUSE WE DON'T OUR RATIO.
BUT THE CAR RATIO IS SO DOMESTICALLY.
BUT IN MY AREA, BUT AGAIN, RED LIGHTS NOW AND DEALING WITH TURN LANES THAT I DIDN'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH BEFORE AND I'M GOING TO CONTINUE AND IT'S NOT JUST ONE.
I'VE GOT SIX DOWN THE ROAD THAT I KNOW OF.
I GOT PEOPLE, I GOT PEOPLE THAT CAN'T GET THEIR MAIL DELIVERED SKI.
WELL, I COME, COME, COME OVER TO MY HOUSE AT EIGHT O'CLOCK.
I WANT YOU TO COME TO MY HOUSE ON THE 16TH.
I'M NOT EVEN SAYING I'M NOT ARGUING THAT YOU, I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE THE NEED.
I GOT PEOPLE THAT THEY CAN'T GET HOME HEALTH CARE AND THEY CAN'T GET THEIR MAIL.
AT SOME POINT YOU GET BELOW WHERE YOU CAN EVEN HIDE THE ROAD COOK.
CAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE LEFT TO DO.
AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MINIMUM.
AND YOU TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, STREAMLINED.
I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT BECAUSE WHEN I CAME IN, I HAD 23 PEOPLE.
WHEN THAT I DO NEED A COUPLE MORE PEOPLE HAVE THE POSITION.
I HAVEN'T FILLED THEM BECAUSE I HAVEN'T FOUND THE RIGHT PERSON.
SO DON'T TELL ME I HAVEN'T STREAMLINED OR CUT DOWN.
I'M JUST SAYING, I SAID, DON'T TELL ME THAT.
SO DON'T TELL ME THAT THEY, UH, UH, SO IT'S NOT THAT I DON'T, DON'T FEEL SORRY FOR YOU NOT HAVING ENOUGH MONEY, BUT I DON'T THINK ANY OF US HAVE ENOUGH.
THAT'S NONE OF US HAVE ENOUGH MONEY.
AND THAT'S TRUE FOR EVERYBODY THAT COMES AND STANDS OUT HERE.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN THE UNENVIABLE POSITION OF TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT.
SO I'M TRYING TO SAY YES TO EVERYBODY ELSE AND NO TO US.
AND TRYING TO BALANCE THE BALANCE AND THEN BALANCE AND THEN BALANCE AND CUT AND CUT THE TAXES.
TAX RATE, TAX RATE, NON TAX CUT THE TAX RATE.
BUT WE DIDN'T RAISE THE TAXES.
YOU'RE WE'RE ALL PREACHING TO THE CHOIR EACH OTHER'S UP.
SO, UH, JERRY THINKS HE UNDERSTANDS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THE ONLY THING THAT'S LEFT ABOUT THAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO HAVE MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO ALLOCATION WOULD BE WHAT TERRY HAS TO SAY WHEN, WHEN HE'S BACK WITH US.
SO WHERE DID WE LAND ON TAX RATES? SIX AND A HALF PERCENT.
TAX RATE, PROPOSED TAX RATE 0.3, 1, 1 0 6, 8 GENERATES 5% MORE YEAR OVER YEAR.
BUDGETED REVENUE, RODEN BRIDGE 0.0 8 1 1 8 6 GENERATE 6.5% YEAR OVER YEAR BUDGETED REVENUE INS 0.0 6, 8 9 1 7 GENERATES 8 MILLION 7 37, 2 76 IN REVENUE, TOTAL TAX RATE 0.4 6 1 1 7 2 8 0.0 0 4 3 7 8 5 DECREASE YEAR OVER YEAR OR 8.6, 7%.
I A THUMBS UP ON 0.4, 6 1 1 7 2.
SAY THE TOTAL TAX RATE AGAIN? YEAH, 4 6 1 1 7 2.
IS A POINT
WE HAVE A PROCESS THAT WE GO THROUGH AND WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT PROCESS PUBLISHED IN THE PAPER MONDAY, OR WE'LL SEND IT TO THE PAPER FROM MONDAY.
WE HAVE TO PUT THAT SO MANY DAYS BEFORE YOUR HEARING.
AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THE COURT TO DO IT TODAY BECAUSE WE GOT IT.
WE GOT TO MEET THESE DEADLINES THAT ARE IN ADVANCED.
SO WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE, WE HAVE A SHEET THAT WE, WE NEED TO PROPOSE AND PUT OUT.
THESE ARE THE, THESE ARE THE NUMBERS THAT I WOULD PUT ON THERE IS THAT IS THAT EVERYBODY'S INSTRUCTION CAN PUT IT IN THE PAPER, YOUR PROPOSED TAX RATE 0.4 6 1 1 17.
AND THEN I'LL, I'LL DO THE ALLOCATIONS AS, AS RECOMMENDED THAT GENERATED APPROXIMATELY 162,000 501 20 OF IT GOING TO PRECINCT FOUR 40,000 GOING TO PRECINCT ONE.
AND I'LL SPLIT THAT EXTRA MONEY UP AS I AM IN OPENGOV.
SO THAT'S A DIFFERENT PROCESS.
DO YOU KNOW, AND JUST WANT TO REITERATE, THESE ARE PROPOSED.
YOU DON'T WANT TO NOT ADOPT THIS TAX RATE UNTIL THE 24TH OF AUGUST.
THESE ARE PROPOSED TAX RATES AT THIS, AT THIS POINT, WE JUST GOT TO STAY ON THAT CALENDAR,
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BUT THANK YOU GENTLEMEN, LAURA, I'LL GET YOU A COPY OF THIS ONE, THIS ONE HERE, BUT IN A DIFFERENT FORMULA.SO AS FAR AS OPENGOV IS CONCERNED, UM, I THINK WE'VE GONE THROUGH EVERYTHING.
THAT'S OUT THERE AS A FEW OPEN SWITCHES THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE.
I'LL MAKE THESE SLIGHT ADJUSTMENTS TO RODEN BRIDGE.
UH, WE HAVE JUVENILE PROBATION THAT WE'LL NEED TO UPLOAD THOSE POSITIONS AND THOSE ITEMS. AND THEN I'LL NEED TO MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT AS, AS APPROVED BY THE COURT.
I'LL NEED TO MOVE THAT NUMBER UP TO 9 47, 9 35.
UM, THE NET IMPACT IS STILL A BIT OF A MOVING TARGET.
AGAIN, RANDY, RUN IT THROUGH A COMPLETE FORMULAS TO MAKE SURE IT CAPTURES EVERYTHING.
AND THEN ALL THAT, THAT ADJUSTMENT IN THE M AND O, BUT WE MADE IN THAT COMMITTED FUND BALANCE NUMBER.
UH, IT WAS IT TWO, TWO, APPROXIMATELY.
SO MY GOOD MOVE, TWO TO THREE AND SOME CHANGE, BUT WE'RE STILL KIND OF MOVING THROUGH ALL THOSE, ALL THE OTHER POSITIONS HAVE BEEN ENTERED.
WE'LL VERIFY THE MATH ONE MORE TIME AGAINST HER, HER SPREADSHEET TO MAKE SURE IT'S ACCURATE.
AND THEN WE STILL HAVE TWO WORKSHOPS SCHEDULED FOR NEXT WEEK.
JUST TO REMIND THE COURT YESTERDAY WAS ASKED TO TALK TO SENIOR CONNECT.
I DID, I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH SOMEBODY FROM THERE AS DID ANABEL, AND I TOLD THEM THE DATES OF THE COURT.
AND I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S BEEN ANYTHING SCHEDULED OR NOT, BUT I LET THEM KNOW THAT THE COURT WOULD BE MEETING NEXT WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY.
IF THOSE DATES CHANGED, THEN I THINK WE JUST NEED TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THOSE DATES ARE THOSE COURTS.
MY CHAIN THERE IS WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS WHAT THE SYSTEM ALLOWS ME TO DO IS PUT TOGETHER AN ENTIRE BOOK IF YOU WILL.
SO ONCE WE GET THIS ALL CLEANED UP, WE'LL GO THROUGH IT AGAIN, WORKING WITH THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE, MAKE SURE AGAIN, WE GOT TIPS TO ADJUST.
WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, OTHER THINGS THAT ARE JUST GOING TO BE, AS YOU KNOW THIS, IT'S NOT A PERFECT, IT'S NOT A PERFECT CALENDAR, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE TO DO OUR BEST GUESS, BUT WE'LL TRUE.
ALL OF THAT UP AND ANY, ANY, ANY, ANY NUMBERS THAT HAVE TO BE ADJUSTED, OUR TRIGGER IS COMMITTED FUND BALANCE.
THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT WE'RE USING TO, TO MAKE THE TRUE IT UP AT THE END OF ALL OF THIS, IT NEEDS TO BE TOTAL REVENUE, TOTAL EXPENSES, ZEROS IN BOTH COLUMNS WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH THAT RISE.
SO IT HAS TO BE A BALANCED BUDGET AND WE WILL, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAPPENS.
AND WE'LL PRESENT THAT TO THE COURT.
AND RIGHT NOW, WHERE IS OUR PHONE BALANCE? HOW MUCH I WAS GOING TO SAY, WHERE DID WE, WELL, WE'RE, MINE'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
WHERE DID WE COME DOWN ON CONTINGENCY? WE'RE AT 300, 300 K.
THAT'S IN THIS MATH RIGHT NOW.
IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU, WHAT YOUR UNSPENT TRUES UP THIS YEAR.
SO IF YOUR UNSPENT THIS YEAR IS A MILLION, I'M JUST USING MATH.
I'M JUST HIGH LEVEL MATTHEW, RIGHT? IF THIS YEAR YOU WERE GOING TO CONTRIBUTE A MILLION, YOU HAD 10, EIGHT, KAREN 11 TO 11 TWO, AND YOU GOT A MILLION.
YOU'LL BE DOWN TO 11 NEW WAY DOWN TO 10 THEREABOUTS.
THOSE 10 WITH YOU'LL BE, YOU'LL BE, YOU'LL BE, YOU'LL BE A LITTLE NORTH OF 10.8, EIGHT HOUND TO ARIZONA.
SO IF WE CAN STAY REALLY CLOSE TO THE 10.8 WILL BE WHERE YOU'LL BE.
YOU'LL BE, YOU'LL BE NORTH OF 10.
NO, STILL IN REMAINING FUND BALANCE.
MY, MY THAT'S HIGH LEVEL MATH.
I DON'T KNOW THOSE NUMBERS EXACTLY RIGHT.
AND YOU KNOW, I LIKED THE FIVE FOR CONTINGENCY, BUT THREE, WE SETTLED ON THE OTHER DAY AND THAT'S THAT? THAT'S GOOD.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT JUST MIGHT NOT FULFILL ALL HIS PROMISES, ALL THE DEPARTMENTS WHEN HE, WHEN THEY ALL COME TO HIM WITH 301,000, WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT.
I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK WE'VE UH, NO, I DON'T THINK WE CAME.
WE DIDN'T COME BACK WITH ANY OUR, I HAD A REDUCTION IN MY BUDGET.
DID YOU GET ANY OTHER REDUCTIONS? YEAH, WE GOT A FEW.
I THINK WE'RE, I BELIEVE THERE'S STILL A COUPLE OUT THERE THAT WE'RE STILL KICKING THE TIRES.
I'M CERTAINLY STILL KICKING THE TIRES TOO SKINNY.
I DON'T THINK WE'LL BE TOO SHORT, SO.
UM, ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? I'LL JUST, I JUST LIKE TO JUST SAY ONE THING THAT, THAT, UH, PART OF THIS PART OF THE STRUGGLE IS IS THIS A YEAR TO YEAR THING THAT WE HAVE, AND WE REALLY NEED TO TRY TO MOVE TO, YOU KNOW, FIVE STRATEGIC PLANNING, BUT WE NEED OUR, PARTICULARLY OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS TO EMBRACE THAT CONCEPT.
SO THAT EVERY YEAR, I MEAN, IT'S HARD TO SIT UP HERE AND SAY, NO, BUT, UH, EVERY YEAR, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU NEED TO SAY NO.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT I'VE TOLD PEOPLE THAT IF THEY,
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WHEN WE WERE WORKING BEFORE COVID AND WE WERE STARTING ON THAT FIVE-YEAR BUDGET OR FIVE-YEAR PLAN, UH, WHAT I'VE TOLD SOME OF THE DEPARTMENT IS I TALKED TO YOU IF, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF YOU PUT, IF YOU PUT SOMETHING IN THE PLAN AND IT, IT CAN'T GO IN YEAR ONE OR YEAR TWO, BUT YOU PUT IT IN YEAR THREE, IT'LL PROBABLY HAPPEN.CAUSE THAT'S JUST KINDA THE WAY IT WORKS, THAT SORT OF, IT GETS, IT GETS A PLACEHOLDER IN THE BUDGET PROCESS.
AND, AND YOU KNOW, WE DON'T, HOPEFULLY WE DON'T GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WAKE UP, UH, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO ADD A, WE NEED TO ADD A NEW POSITION OR A NEW FACILITY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THREE YEARS FROM NOW, INSTEAD OF HAVING TO DO IT RIGHT NOW, YOU DON'T WANT TO DO EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW.
IT'S WELL, BUT THAT'S KIND OF THE WAY WE DONE IT.
WELL, THAT'S THE WAY GOVERNMENT WORKS BECAUSE IT'S YOUR BUDGET.
AND THAT'S THE WAY IT'S ALWAYS KIND OF WORKED.
IT DOESN'T NEED TO WORK THAT WAY.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S THE WAY IT'S ALWAYS, IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT.
I WOULD SAY, I WOULD SAY MOST OTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCIES, OTHER THAN COUNTIES HAVE SOME SORT OF A LONGER TERM PLAN.
WELL, LEGISLATOR DOES IT CAUSE THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T, THEY'RE NOT IN OFFICE EVER SCHOOLS.
I MEAN, SCHOOLS ARE WORSE OFF THAN WE ARE AND THEY ALL HAVE A LONG-TERM PLAN NOW, BUT ANYTHING ELSE ARE STRUCTURED DIFFERENT.
HOW ABOUT EMOTION FROM YOU? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING.
NO JOURN FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSION PAGE DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR.