Sep 14, 2021 Commissioners Court

JOHNNY WHITE DISCUSS CONSIDER APPROVAL OF NEW PRETRIAL SUPERVISION OFFICER TO BE HIRED OCTOBER 18TH INSTEAD OF JANUARY 1ST.

OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES NEXT UP.

UH,

[3. Johnny White; Discuss/Consider approval of new Pretrial Bond Supervision Officer to be hired by October 18, 2021 instead of January 1, 2022.]

GOOD MORNING, SIR.

APPRECIATE YOU.

UH, GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME SPEAK WITH YOU THIS MORNING.

UH, THE LAST BUDGET, UH, THEY, THEY DID VOTE TO APPROVE MY NEW POSITION FOR THE, UH, NEW BOND SUPERVISION OFFICER, UH, AND LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.

IT WAS TABLED UNTIL, I GUESS, JANUARY FOR THE NEW HIRES, BUT I JUST COME WITH A SPECIAL REQUEST TO SEE IF WE CAN MAYBE GET THAT INDIVIDUAL HIRED EARLIER.

UH, WE HAVE THE FUNDS FOR IT.

I HAD MS. KAREN RUN OUR NUMBERS FOR OUR FEES THAT WE'VE COLLECTED OVER THE LAST 90 DAYS.

AND WE'RE AVERAGING, I THINK ABOUT 10,000 TO 91 A MONTH IN FEES THAT WE COLLECT FROM THE FOLKS THAT ARE OUT ON SUPERVISION NOW.

UM, SO SHE RAN THE NUMBERS AND I THINK IT, FROM OCTOBER 18TH TO THE END OF DECEMBER, IT WOULD BE 98, 65 FOR THAT PERSON FOR THE WHOLE QUARTER THERE.

AND WE MAKE THAT IN ONE MONTH.

SO, UM, WE REALLY NEED TO GET SOMEBODY IN, GET THEM STARTED.

WE HAVE OUR NUMBERS, UH, WORD FIVE 18 ON THE PRETRIAL BOND SIDE.

UH, THIS IS HOW MANY CASES WE HAVE 29 OF THOSE HAVE GONE TO MALE IN REPORTING 59 ARE IN JAIL AND 35 ARE IN OTHER AGENCIES.

SO THAT LEAVES ABOUT 345 ACTUAL FACE-TO-FACE CONTACTS EVERY MONTH THAT WE HAVE BETWEEN ME AND MS. THOMAS.

SO IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S PRETTY, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY OVERWHELMING.

UM, EVEN THOUGH, THOUGH THE ONES THAT ARE IN JAIL, THE ONES THAT MIDDLEMAN AND THE ONES THAT ARE IN OTHER AGENCIES, WE STILL HAVE TO TRACK THEM, MONITOR THEM, LOOK THEM UP EVERY MONTH AS WELL.

SO, UH, WITH THE ADDITION OF THE OFFICER, THE WAY IT'S GOING TO BREAK DOWN, UH, I'M GOING TO STILL TAKE ABOUT 50 OR 60 OF THOSE CASES OF THE HIGH RISK OFFENDERS, GPS, TRACKER, UH, SEX OFFENDERS, THAT TYPE STUFF.

UH, AND THEN THAT'LL FREE ME UP TO DO MORE THAN ADMINISTRATIVE RUN THAT RUN THE DEPARTMENT.

UH, AND THEN THE, THE DIVIDING, UM, THE OTHER, THE OTHER CASE LOAD BETWEEN THE TWO NEW OP THE NEW OFFICER IN KATIE.

SO THAT'LL BE AROUND, EXCUSE ME, AROUND 1 73 FOR EACH OF THEM, 50 TO 60 FOR ME AS OF NOW, OF COURSE, AS WE GROW IN THE FUTURE, THAT'S, THAT'S ANOTHER STORY, BUT THAT'S DOWN THE ROAD.

UH, AND I THINK THE AVERAGE CASE WORK AS FAR AS A PROBATION OFFICER WHEN TALKING TO LANCE IS AROUND 130, SO WE'RE STILL A LITTLE BUB, BUT IT'LL BE MANAGEABLE

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A LOT MORE MANAGEABLE ANYWAY.

UM, SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.

AND, UH, I JUST WANTED TO COME AND ASK FOR A SPECIAL CONSIDERATION TO SEE IF, IF YOU GUYS WOULD APPROVE THAT FOR US.

IS THERE, UH, MANAGING A CASE FOR IT, TERMS OF TIME AND EFFORT TAKEN FOR PROBATION OR FOR PRETRIAL? IS IT ABOUT THE SAME THING? UH, IT, PROBATION MAY BE A LITTLE MORE TIME CONSUMING BECAUSE THEY HAVE MORE CONDITIONS.

SOMETIMES THEY HAVE, UM, COMMUNITY SERVICE HOURS.

THEY HAVE TO KEEP UP WITH, THEY HAVE COUNSELING, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT THEY HAVE TO TRACK.

UM, BUT, BUT ON AVERAGE, I WOULD SAY IT STILL TAKES TIME TO BRING THEM IN, SIT DOWN AND TALK TO THEM, DISCUSS WHAT'S GOING ON.

UH, WE, WE ALSO DO ANY REFERRALS IF THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, DRUG AND ALCOHOL PROBLEM, THEY HAVE PSYCHIATRIC PROBLEMS. UM, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE HOMELESS, WE TRY TO HELP THEM.

SO, I MEAN, IT'S CASE MANAGEMENT IS, IS CASE MANAGEMENT.

THEY PROBABLY DO HAVE A LITTLE MORE, UH, RESTRICTIONS AND STUFF THAT'S ORDERED FROM THE COURT.

THEN WE DO YES.

BUT AS FAR AS TIME CONSUMING AND DEALING WITH FOLKS AND, UM, IT, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY, IT'S PRETTY EQUAL, I WOULD SAY IN MY OPINION.

AND THEN WE ALSO BROUGHT IN OF COURSE, PRETRIAL DIVERSION BACK IN APRIL, UH, MAY, UH, WE, WE COLLECTED, UH, SO FAR WE'RE AT 86 ON THERE.

THOSE THAT'S REMAINED PRETTY CONSTANT BECAUSE, UH, WE'RE DROPPING OUT ABOUT AS MANY AS WE'RE GETTING IN.

SO THAT, THAT PROGRAM IS DOING REAL GOOD.

UM, MS. JONES WAS HIRED THROUGH THE DA'S OFFICE ON THAT, UH, AND ALL THAT'S FUNDED THROUGH THE DA'S OFFICE.

SO THAT'S JUST AN ADDITIONAL STAFF MEMBER TO SUPERVISE AND DEAL WITH THAT SIDE OF IT.

IT'S GOING REALLY WELL.

SHE'S, SHE'S REALLY HITTING THE BALL OUT OF THE PARK.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S PART OF THIS, THIS TOO.

SO, UH, AS YOU WANT TO HAVE QUESTIONS FOR MR. WHITE, I CAN JUST, YOU KNOW, IF WE GET THEM IN EARLY THAT'S 90 DAYS, I MEAN, I CAN DO A LOT OF TRAINING, GET THEM, YOU KNOW, I CAN DO A LOT IN 90 DAYS TO GET THEM READY FOR, FOR THE NEXT YEAR GOING FORWARD.

SO, OKAY.

WELL, IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS AND WHAT'S BEFORE US IS LOOKING FOR A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE NEW PRE-TRIAL BOND OFFICER STARTING OCTOBER 18TH IN LIEU OF JANUARY 1ST, I'LL MAKE A MOTION WHERE THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER BARBARA, IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION, JUDGE.

I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT A WHILE.

I ALWAYS THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO STRATA LIVE WITH THE BUDGET THAT WE SET, UH, AND THAT BUDGET WAS PREDICATED ON A LOT OF THESE HIRINGS TO TAKE PLACE IN JANUARY IN THIS SYSTEM.

I THINK WE HAVE THIS FLEXIBILITY BECAUSE THIS IS A REVENUE GENERATION, RIGHT? EXACTLY.

SO FUNDS.

YEAH, IT IS A DIFFERENT SITUATION AND THAT THEY, THIS DEPARTMENT DOES GENERATE REVENUE WITH THEIR WORK.

FOR SURE.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL, THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE.

JOHNNY, JUST KIND OF CONSIDER APPROVAL OF REVISED POLICIES AND PROCEDURES MAY.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES BACK TO YOU.

[4. Johnny White; Discuss/Consider approval of revised Policies and Procedures Manual.]

UH, THE SECOND WAS JUST REAL SHORT.

WE, WE LOOKED AT THIS BACK IN SEPTEMBER, UM, OF LAST YEAR.

UH, WE REALLY DIDN'T HAVE ANY POLICIES AND PROCEDURES, EVEN THOUGH WE WERE, WE WERE DOING THINGS.

SO WE DRAFTED SOME, ROUTED THEM AROUND AND GOT IT APPROVED.

UH, BUT SINCE THEN WE TOOK ON AGAIN, THE DIVERSION PROGRAM.

UH, SO I THOUGHT WE SHOULD ADD THAT IN THERE.

THAT'S AT THE END, DID EVERYBODY GET A COPY OF THAT? I DON'T KNOW.

IT WAS KINDA SHORT PACKAGE.

THERE'S NO MAJOR CHANGES.

UH, THE ONLY THING WAS THE ADDITION OF THE PRE-TRIAL DIVERSION SIDE AND THE ORGANIZATIONAL CHART THAT, UH, THANK YOU, JERRY KIND OF HELPED ME WITH, UH, WE DISCUSSED THAT BACK IN MARCH WHEN JUDGE WILEY AND I WERE HERE, UH, AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO ALIGN IT MORE LIKE PROBATION WITH THE DIRECTOR AND THE OFFICERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO IT'LL ALL KIND OF BE CONSISTENT FLOW A LITTLE BETTER.

UH, BUT THAT'S IT, THEY ARE DOING SOME FINAL TWEAKS ON THE BOND CONDITIONS THAT THAT'S THE ONLY OTHER THING.

THESE ARE DATED JULY, THE ONES THAT ARE IN THE PACKET, THE NEW ONES WILL BE DATED SEPTEMBER.

AND I WILL FORWARD THOSE TO YOU GUYS.

AS SOON AS I GET THEM BACK FROM THE, FROM THE DA'S OFFICE, IT WAS JUST A FORMATTING ISSUE AND A COUPLE OF CHANGES THAT NEEDED TO BE, UH, ON THE GPS STUFF, UH, YOU KNOW, OUT, UH, OUT AT THE GILLETTE THAT THEIR REQUESTS.

SO IT'S, IT'S JUST SOME, SOME FORMATTING STUFF, BUT I WILL SEND THAT BACK OUT JUST AS SOON AS I GET IT BACK THIS MONTH.

SO YOU RAN ALL THAT.

UH, WELL, YEAH, ME ON SEVERAL, SEVERAL OF US LOOKED AT IT, DRAFTED IT.

WE IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, THE DAY TO DAY WHAT WE DO.

THE DA'S OFFICE DID THE VERSION STUFF, UH, ROBIN AND, UH, I THINK, UM, MISS JUDGE WILEY, AND THERE WERE SEVERAL OF THEM THAT WORKED ON THAT, AND THERE WERE A FEW OF US THAT WORKED ON OURS AS WELL, BUT JUST KIND OF SIT DOWN AND HEY, WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? SO WE JUST THOUGHT WE NEEDED SOME, SOMETHING IN PLACE, SOMETHING OFFICIAL.

SO, YEAH.

GOOD JOB.

GOOD QUESTIONS.

NO, IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REVISED POLICIES AND PROCEDURES MANUAL? I'LL MAKE A PLUM MOTION WHERE THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER CAGE DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU, SIR.

I'LL GO WORK THOSE CASES.

APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.

DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING THE FOURTH TUESDAY OF SEPTEMBER AS NATIONAL VOTER RECOGNITION REGISTRATION DAY IN KAUFMAN COUNTY.

NEXT UP.

[5. Tandi Smith; Discuss/Consider approving resolution establishing the Fourth Tuesday of September as National Voter Registration Day in Kaufman County.]

TANDY SMITH

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GOOD MORNING, TANDY.

SO NATIONAL VOTER REGISTRATION DAY IS A NON-PARTISAN CIVIC HOLIDAY.

IT BEGAN IN 2012 SINCE ITS INCEPTION ON THE FOURTH, TUESDAY OF EVERY SEPTEMBER, THEY HAVE OFFICIALLY REGISTERED OVER 4.5 MILLION INDIVIDUALS.

THE LARGEST AMOUNT BEING IN 2020, WHICH WAS ACTUALLY 1.5 MILLION PEOPLE ON THAT ONE DAY.

SO WE WANT TO CONTINUE THAT HERE IN KAUFMAN COUNTY, BY INSTILLING THE FIRST ANNUAL NATIONAL VOTER REGISTRATION DAY.

THIS TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 24TH IS THE FOURTH TUESDAY.

WE'RE GOING TO BE AT THE KAUFMAN COUNTY LIBRARY WILL BE SET UP.

UM, WE PARTNERED WITH DIFFERENT OFFICES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY FOR THIS PROCESS.

UM, HR IS GOING TO COME DOWN.

THE LIBRARY IS PARTICIPATING.

THE POLITICAL PARTIES ARE PARTICIPATING IN THEIR OWN RESPECTIVE AREAS.

UM, WE HAVE OUR LOVELY STAFF HERE, LADIES, IF YOU CAN STAND UP, WE HAVE THESE NICE LITTLE SHIRTS TO SUPPORT NATIONAL VOTER REGISTRATION DAY.

THAT COUNTY JUDGE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A PHOTO WITH THEM, SAYS, ASKED ME TO REGISTER TO VOTE, HAS OUR OFFICE INFORMATION ON THE BACK.

SO THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THAT RESOLUTION QUESTIONS.

IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION AS PRESENTED ON ITEM FIVE ON LIKE THE MOTION WE HAD A MOTION COMMISSIONER HUNT.

IS THERE A SECOND ALSO SACRED COMMISSIONER BARBARA DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES BACK TO TANDY DISCUSS

[6. Tandi Smith; Discuss/Consider approval of the November 2, 2021, Constitutional Amendment/Joint Election Contract.]

CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE NOVEMBER 2ND, 2021 CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT JOINT ELECTION CONTRACT IN ACCORDANCE WITH TEXAS ELECTION CODE SECTION 2 71, WE'VE ESTABLISHED A JOINT ELECTION CONTRACT.

WE HAVE EIGHT OTHER ENTITIES PARTICIPATING ON OUR BALLOT FOR THE NOVEMBER ELECTION.

THEREFORE IT REQUIRES THE SIGNATURE OF THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT WHERE THE LARGEST STAKEHOLDER WITH AN 87% SHARED PERCENTAGE COST.

UM, YOU RECEIVED A COPY OF THE CONTRACT AS WELL AS THE DETACHMENTS ESTABLISHING THE FOUR STANDARD EARLY VOTING LOCATIONS IN KAUFMAN COUNTY, AS WELL AS THE ASSOCIATED COSTS.

THAT INCLUDES THOSE NEW RENTAL FEES THAT WE PROPOSED AND WERE APPROVED IN COURT.

UM, THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD RELATED TO THIS, SO WE DID RECEIVE A REQUEST FROM THE SCURRY ISD, SCURRY, ROSSER ISD.

THEY WOULD LIKE TO ADD A LOCATION AT THEIR ADMINISTRATION BUILDING FOR THIS SELECTION.

THEIR DISTRICT DOES NOT HAVE THE FUNDING TO SUPPORT THAT.

SO I KNOW PREVIOUSLY THE COUNTY HAS SHARED ALL COSTS WITH EARLY VOTING.

UH, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'RE NOT WANTING TO DO, AND THAT WE DO WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE STANDARDIZED PRICING IN THE CONTRACT, MEANING THAT IF AN ENTITY REQUESTS SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF WHAT OUR NORM IS, THEY'RE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT COST.

UM, SO WE WOULD NEED TO ADD THEM TO THIS.

WE WOULD, UH, EMOTION WOULD NEED TO BE ADDING THEM.

IF THE COUNTY WISHES TO ADD A LOCATION FOR THIS ELECTION, WE WOULD AMEND ATTACHMENT B AND INCLUDE THAT EARLY VOTING LOCATION.

OUR SHARED COST PERCENTAGE WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY $6,857 AND 60 CENTS.

IF THEY WERE PAYING THE AMOUNT THEY WOULD BE PAYING, THAT IS OUR PORTION.

THE TOTAL PORTION IS 7,000 882 30.

AND THAT'S STRICTLY RELATED TO THE PERSONNEL COST OF RUNNING A FACILITY FOR TWO WEEKS.

SO THEIR COSTS WOULD BE IF THEY WERE GOING TO PAY THEIR COSTS, IT WOULD BE HOMELESS.

IT WOULD BE $7,000, 7,000 8, 82 30.

IF WE SHARE IN THEIR COSTS BECAUSE WE ARE THE LARGEST STAKEHOLDERS IN THIS ELECTION AT 87%, WE WOULD FIT THE BILL FOR 6,000 8 57.

SO IF WE SHARED THE COST, THEY WOULD BE OUT A THOUSAND, CORRECT, WHATEVER.

AND THEY DON'T AND THEY ASKED, THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THEY DO.

UM, AND AGAIN, THEY'RE SAYING, IF THAT'S THE ROUTE WE'RE GOING TO TAKE, THEY'RE GOING TO DECLINE AND THEY DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT.

BUT AGAIN, BECAUSE THIS IS A NEW PROCESS, I WANTED TO MAKE THE CORRIDOR WHERE, AND PROVIDE YOU WITH THE OPTION.

AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S MY DUTY TO THE VOTERS TO ASK, BUT IT'S ALSO MY DUTY TO THE COUNTY TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE IN AN ELECTION WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT A THREE TO 5% TURNOUT VERSUS WHAT YOU JUST EXPERIENCED LAST NOVEMBER, THAT'S A 50, 60% TURNOUT.

SO THE ADDED LOCATION WOULD COST THE COUNTY SEVEN GRAND AND IT WOULD COST THE ISD 1500 OR 1700.

AND THEY'RE GOOD WITH THAT.

NO, THEY'RE SAYING THEY, THEY HAVE NO MONEY OR THEY DON'T HAVE NO MONEY.

RIGHT? THEY HAVE THE BASE FUNDS TO PROCESS THEIR ELECTION WITHOUT ANY ADDITIONAL AD EXPENSE.

I'M STILL NOT SURE WHAT

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THAT MEANS.

IT MEANS THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO BOOT THEIR PERCENTAGE AND PAY THE 1000 MORE TO INCUR THE COSTS FULL COST OF THE FACILITY, WHICH WOULD BE 70, 7800.

SO IF WE, IF, SO, IF, UH, IF, IF, UH, IF WE WANT TO HAVE A, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ESSAY WOULD BE ADDING THE SCURRY ROSTER LOCATION.

CORRECT.

BUT IN NORMAL, THE WAY WE WROTE THE CONTRACT, THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR THE WHOLE THING THIS TIME.

THAT IS CORRECT.

AND, AND THE DISTRICT SAID, THEY'RE GOOD EITHER WAY, BUT AGAIN, HISTORICALLY, YOU GUYS HAVE MADE THAT DECISION.

SO I'M GOING TO ASK YOU WHAT BACKGROUNDS HERE THAT I'M THINKING IS THAT, UH, SOMETIMES IT'S CHALLENGING TO FIND LOCATIONS AND IF YOU HAVE A WILLING PARTNER, THAT'S WORTH SOMETHING, I THINK IT IS.

AND IT'S A BENEFIT TO THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE HAVING A BOND ELECTION.

SO THEIR TURNOUTS ARE JUST TEMPORARY FOR THIS ELECTION.

ONLY AGAIN, I DON'T RECOMMEND ADDING ANY PERMANENT, EARLY VOTING LOCATIONS UNTIL AFTER REDISTRICTING WHERE REEVALUATE, WHERE THE NEW LINES ARE AND ESTABLISH WHERE THERE ARE AREAS THAT ARE UNDERSERVED, RIGHT.

SO THEY'RE DOING IT FOR THEIR BOND LAKES AND BASICALLY CORRECT.

AND SO, UH, WERE YOU ABLE TO SPEAK TO CRANDALL? YEAH.

CRANDALL.

I LEFT A MESSAGE, BUT AGAIN, CRANDALL IS NOT ON OUR BALLOT OTHER THAN A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT AT 3%, NO BOAT, BUT SPECIFICALLY ABOUT, UH, ULTIMATELY HAVING AN EARLY VOTE.

CORRECT.

I LEFT JANA MESSAGES TO ME.

SHE HAS NOT RETURNED.

SO WHILE THAT, OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T GET THAT INCLUDED THE DAY, THAT'S STILL, THIS LOCATION WOULD STILL, UH, MAKE IT A TAD EASIER FOR CRANDALL AREA TO EARLY.

GOOD.

POTENTIALLY ON THE OUTLYING AREAS.

YES, SIR.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION REGARDING ITEM SIX? JUDGE I'LL MAKE THE MOTION AS WRITTEN THERE.

CAN YOU INCLUDE, UH, THE COUNTY FUNDING, MAKING THE ADDENDUM TO FUND THIS, UH, TEMPORARY EARLY VOTING LOCATION FOR SCURRY ROSSER ISD.

CONSIDER EXECUTION OF FINAL CONTRACT RFP 2,109 BANK DEPOSITORY SERVICES, BUT IN KAUFMAN COUNTY AND AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK OF TEXAS, UM, WHAT WE HAVE IS THE FINAL CONTRACT AS PRESENTED BY AMERICAN NATIONAL.

YOU'VE HEARD THE MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND, A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER BARBER? THOSE IN FAVOR IS THE DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING, I SUPPOSE, NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DANNY.

I APPRECIATE YOUR, WE APPRECIATE YOUR HEART.

RAYLAND DISCUSS

[7. Raylan Smith; Discuss and consider execution of final contract, RFP 21 09: Bank Depository Services, between Kaufman County and American National Bank of Texas.]

IT'S BEEN REVIEWED BY LEGAL AS WELL AS CHUCK HAS GONE OVER THE DETAILS OF THE ACCOUNTS AND BS.

SO THEY BOTH AGREE WITH THE CONTRACT AS PRESENTED QUESTIONS, IF FOR NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE EXECUTION OF THAT FINAL CONTRACT AS PRESENTED ON LIKE THE EMOTION WHERE THE EMOTIONAL COMMISSIONER HAUNT? IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL THINK A SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES BACK TO RAYLAND DISCUSS,

[8. Raylan Smith; Discuss and consider the purchase of a new 2021 John Deere 60G, in the amount of $72,340.00; utilizing Sourcewell Contract #110719-JDC for Precinct #4,]

CONSIDER THE PURCHASE OF A 2021 JOHN DEERE, 60 G, AND THE AMOUNT OF 70 2003 40 USING SOURCE WHEEL CONTRACT FOR PRECINCT FOUR.

THIS IS THE PURCHASE OF NEW EQUIPMENT FOR PRECINCT FOR THERE WILL BE NO FINANCING.

THIS WILL COME DIRECTLY OUT OF HIS NEW EQUIPMENT LINE AUTO QUESTIONS.

IF THERE NO QUESTIONS IS THEIR EMOTIONAL AUTOMATE.

JUDGE I'LL MAKE THE MOTION AS WRITTEN.

WE HAVE MOTION COMMISSIONER CAGE TO APPROVE THAT ITEM AS PRESENTED AUTOMATE.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND, SECOND ONE COMMISSIONER BARBARA, DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES NEXT

[9. Raylan Smith; Discuss and consider capital facility projects, proposed design and construction timetable, and release of American Rescue Plan Funds for such services, as recommended by Tidal Basin Group.]

ITEM NINE, DISCUSS CONSIDERED CAPITAL FACILITY PROJECTS, PROPOSED DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION TIMETABLE AND RELEASE OF AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN FUNDS FOR SUCH SERVICES AS RECOMMENDED BY TITLE BASIN GROUP.

OKAY, SO WE ARE FINALLY AT, UM, SOME DECISION POINTS.

UM, AS FAR AS TIDAL BASIN IS CONCERNED, UM, PART OF YOUR PACKET.

AND I DID STATE THAT I WOULD PROVIDE THIS FOR THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE.

UH, ONCE WE GO THROUGH THE PROJECT LISTING, UM, WHAT WE HAVE IS AN OPINION MEMO FROM TIDAL BASIN BASED ON THE WORK THAT WE'VE PUT TOGETHER.

I STARTED WORKING WITH TIDAL BASIN AND ROTTING, THE JUSTIFICATIONS AND RESEARCH FOR DESIGN ON JULY 23RD.

WE'VE BEEN MEETING WEEKLY SINCE THEN, STARTING ON THE 28TH OF JULY AND HAVE COME UP WITH THE, UM, THE FOUR KEY STRATEGIES

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OF WHY THESE EIGHT MITIGATION PROJECTS WOULD BE APPROVED GOING FORWARD.

UM, AFTER REVIEW OF THE INFORMATION, UM, WE INDICATE THAT THE PROJECTS PROPOSED BY KAUFMAN COUNTY MAY BE DEEMED ELIGIBLE FOR THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT FOR FUNDING UNDER THE ARP.

A LOT OF THE RESEARCH AND MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE SET THROUGH, UM, IN PARTICULAR NEKO, UM, THEY ARE REPORTING SEVERAL COUNTIES THAT ARE UNDERTAKING FACILITY PROJECTS.

WE FEEL THAT EXPANSION AND RENOVATION IS A VERY CONSERVATIVE APPROACH, AND THAT IS GOING TO BE THE FINAL RECOMMENDATION BY TIDAL BASIN AT THIS TIME.

UM, AND ONLY UTILIZE THE FUNDING FOR SUCH RENOVATIONS AND EXPANSIONS.

WE KNOW THAT TARRANT COUNTY IS PROPOSING A FEW NEW FACILITIES AND THERE'S A LOT OF THE LARGER COUNTIES THAT ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH US TREASURY ON NEW FACILITIES IN NEKO BELIEVES THAT THE TREASURY IS ASKING PEOPLE TO STEER AWAY FROM THAT JUST SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE CONSTRUCTION TIMELINES.

BUT, UM, WE EXPECT TO START GETTING MORE INFORMATION ON NEW FACILITIES, RENOVATIONS, UM, AND ALL OF THEIR REFERENCES AS WELL.

UH, THEY FEEL AS THOUGH RENOVATIONS AND EXPANSIONS, UM, IS JUST A MORE MODEST APPROACH TO THE SPENDING AND POSSIBLY WE WOULD HAVE AVAILABLE FUNDS TO ALLOW THE COMMISSIONERS TO RETURN THOSE FUNDS BACK TO THE COMMUNITY OR REDIRECT FOR ADDITIONAL PROJECTS.

SO THE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS WOULD BE THE JUSTICE CENTER EXPANSION, KCSO SUBSTATION EXPANSION.

UH, YOU ALREADY HAVE COMMITTED FUNDS FOR THE KSL SUBSTATION THERE IN THE FORNEY LOCATION.

AND SO WHAT WE WOULD HAVE AS AN ADDITIONAL DESIGN PIECE THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE JP COURTROOM AND CONSTABLE AS WELL AS WHAT THE BOND FUNDS WERE GOING TO PAY FOR, WHICH IS THE PORTION OF THE BUILDING FOR THE KSAS SUBSTATION.

SO THE ARP FUNDS COULD PROVIDE FOR THE CONSTABLE PORTION OF THE BUILDING.

WE HA WE WOULD HAVE THE RENOVATION AT THE COURTHOUSE, THE COURTHOUSE ANNEX.

THEN YOU WOULD RENOVATE SUB COURTHOUSE PRECINCTS TWO, THREE AND FOUR.

THE FINAL PROJECT IS AN OUTDOOR RECREATION PROJECT.

AND THE REQUEST IS THAT THE PORTION OF THESE FUNDS BE TO PUT TOGETHER THE MASTER PLAN.

UM, THIS IDEA IS WHERE WE WOULD LINK THE POOR FARM, UH, CONCERT ARENA, WHICH WOULD ALSO BE WHAT WE WOULD KNOW AS THE SHOW BARN, BUT IT'S ALL ABOUT WHAT YOU CALL IT.

UM, THE CONCERT ARENA, WALKING TRAILS, THIS WOULD ALSO INCLUDE VETERAN PARK UPGRADES, UM, A VETERAN PARKS PAVILION WITH ADMINISTRATION OFFICES IN TRAINING FACILITY, THE COUNTY LIBRARY EXPANSION, IT WOULD BE LOOKED AT AS A REGIONAL PROJECT.

AND, UM, THE MASTER PLAN WOULD ALSO INTEGRATE SOME OF THE IDEAS FROM THE AREA DEVELOPER.

UM, AND ONCE THE MASTER PLAN WAS COMPLETE, THEN WE WOULD APPLY FOR EDA GRANT FUNDING FOR OUTDOOR RECREATION, WHICH IS A HUGE GRANT.

AND, UM, IT SUPPORTS ALL THINGS OUTDOORS AND ACTIVITIES.

AND, UM, THEY FEEL REALLY GOOD ABOUT THIS APPLICATION PROCESS, THE ADDITIONAL PROJECT THAT WAS UNDER REVIEW AND THEY'RE COMPLETING THE CONCEPT PLAN IS THE JUVENILE DETENTION FACILITY.

SO THEY HAVE REQUESTED SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM US TREASURY, NUMBER ONE, DUE TO IT BEING A NEW FACILITY.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET SOME, UM, DEFINITIONS OF THE USE OF FUNDS AND GETTING THE CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE TOGETHER.

UM, WE FEEL AS THOUGH THE CON, AS FAR AS THE CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE, THIS FACILITY PROJECT WOULD BE TOWARDS THE END OF CONSTRUCTION, JUST SIMPLY BECAUSE THIS IS THE PROJECT THAT WOULD IMPACT THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET.

AND SO HOK WOULD ALSO ASSIST WITH OUR OPERATING BUDGET AND HELP PUT TOGETHER A FISCAL YEAR PLAN OF HOW YOU WOULD ACTUALLY OPEN THAT BUILDING.

SO THE ASK TODAY IS APPROVAL TO EXPEND THE FUNDS FOR THE A AND E AND CONSTRUCTION BIDS.

AND SO ON YOUR SPREADSHEET, WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS ALL OF THE PROJECTS LISTED THAT I JUST DISCUSSED, UM, AND AN ESTIMATE FOR THE AAE DESIGN AND THEN ALSO THE CMA DESIGN BECAUSE, UM, OUR CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AGENT GOES THROUGH THAT DESIGN PROCESS AS WELL, UM, AND ASSIST WITH THE VALUE ENGINEERING.

SO THESE ARE ALL ESTIMATES.

UM, AGAIN, THE REQUEST TODAY IS THAT YOU APPROVE THESE AS THE FINAL PROJECTS MOVING FORWARD,

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AND THAT I'LL BE ABLE TO WORK ON GETTING CONTRACTS FOR THE A AND E AND CMA.

THIS IS REALLY A LOT FOR ME TO DIGEST IN FIVE MINUTES.

SO WHAT PROJECTS ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT USING THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN FUNDS VERSUS OUR FACILITIES? BOND MONEY FACILITY, BOND MONEY WOULD BE THE PORTION OF THE KSAS SUBSTATION.

THAT IS THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THE MANGER OF THE JUSTICE CENTER IN PET ADOPTION.

THE EXPANSION OF THE JUSTICE CENTER THAT WOULD, WOULD BE AR FUNDS.

NOW WE'RE GOING TO CONNECT A BUILDING TO THE EXISTING BUILDING.

IT IS CONNECTED.

IT IS GOING TO BE CONNECTED PHYSICALLY NOW SEE, BEFORE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO SEPARATE BUILDINGS, RIGHT? IT WILL BE CONNECTED ON THE EXTERIOR.

IT WILL NOT BE CONNECTED ON THE INTERIOR, BUT IT WILL BE CONSIDERED AN EXPANSION TO THE JUSTICE CENTER.

IT'D BE ATTACHED RIGHT TO IT.

AND THEN WHEN YOU'RE, WE JUST WON'T BE A PASS THERE WON'T BE A PASS THROUGH FROM THE INTERIOR OF THE BUILDINGS BECAUSE OF HOW THE JUSTICE CENTER IS SET UP.

THAT'S THE COUNTY CLERK AND DISTRICT CLERK OFFICES.

SO THEY'LL JUST BE, UM, THEY'LL BE CONNECTING IT IN THE REAR AND ABLE TO UTILIZE, UM, YOUR MAIN ELECTRICAL COMING THROUGH.

WE'LL ALSO SHARE GENERATORS.

SO THERE'LL BE ABLE TO DO A LOT OF THE PASS-THROUGHS, UM, IN THE REAR OF THE BUILDING TO HELP WITH SOME OF THE METERS AND THINGS AVAILABLE FOR THE EXPANSION.

SO STABILITY, RENOVATIONS

SO, I MEAN, SO THE AR FUNDS, I SAY, WE DO THIS AND THEN WHO HAS THE LIABILITY? IF THEY COME BACK AND SAY, HEY, THIS DOESN'T MEET THE GUIDELINES BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION AT THE CONFERENCE I WENT TO WITH THE AR MONEY THEY WERE ASKING, ALL KINDS TO DO IS TEAR A BUILDING DOWN TO THE SLAB.

DID WE GO DOWN TO THE STUDS? HOW DO WE DO THAT? AND IT WAS NOT REALLY ANY CLEAR ANSWERS AT THAT TIME WITH THE NEKO PEOPLE AND THE GUY FROM THE TREASURY, THEY WEREN'T GOING TO COMMIT.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE FIVE, THE FINAL DRAFTS COME OUT YET.

THE FINAL DRAFT THEY'RE HOPING COMES OUT IN OCTOBER.

THE REASON THAT TITLE BASIN BASIN IS REQUESTING THAT THE RELEASE OF FUNDS IN THIS MANNER IS THAT WE WOULD THEN HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL PROJECT THAT WE'RE SUBMITTING TO THE U S TREASURY AND WE WOULD BE REPORTING.

AND YOU WOULD ULTIMATELY GET A DECISION FROM THEM BASED ON EACH PROJECT.

SO, UM, IN HOW IT'S WRITTEN IS THE JUSTIFICATION AS STATED IN THE INTERIM RULE.

UM, AND AS WE NEEDED TO REPORT THE U S TREASURY, WE WOULD HAVE NOTIFIED THEM EARLY ON THAT THIS WAS OUR DESIGN PLAN.

AND THESE WERE THE PIECES THAT WE WERE GETTING APPROVED BEFORE WE SPEND ANY OF THE MONEY IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

NO, WE WOULD HAVE TO SPEND SOME MONEY FIRST.

AND SO THAT'S WHY THE CONSULTANT IS PROVIDING THE INFORMATION.

THEY'VE DONE THE RESEARCH.

THEY KNOW THAT, OR THEY FEEL THAT THESE PROJECTS BASED ON THE RESEARCH THAT THEY HAVE AND THE KNOWLEDGE THAT THEY HAVE AND WHAT OTHER COUNTIES ARE DOING, THAT THEY BELIEVE THAT THESE PROJECTS ARE APPROVED AS PRESENTED AND THEIR MODEST APPROACH IS THAT AT THIS TIME THERE'D BE NO NEW FACILITIES, UM, BECAUSE THE JUSTIFICATION IS BETTER FOR EXPANSION IN RENOVATIONS.

AND THAT'S WHY WE HIRED TITLE BASED ON THIS, BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THEIR EXPERTISE AND MAKE THIS RECOMMENDATION.

SURE, SURE.

AND EXACTLY.

OUT ON THE SIDE, I MEAN, JUST KEITH SAID, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER WE FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT AR STUFF THAT HE WANTED THEM TO COME UP HERE AND PHYSICALLY PUBLICLY SAY, THIS WILL, WE WON'T BE ASKED TO REIMBURSE THIS MONEY IF WE INVESTED THIS SOME WAY.

SO YEAH.

I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT, BUT WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE CARES ACT? AND I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK THE SAME THING IS GOING TO HAPPEN, UM, IS THAT IT'S GONNA, IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE REALLY HARD, PARTICULARLY FOR SMALLER CITIES AND SMALLER RECIPIENTS OF THESE FUNDS.

UM, IT'S REALLY HARD FOR THEM TO, UH, THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE NOT, THEY'VE ALREADY SAID, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO USE THE MONEY BECAUSE THEY'RE AFRAID OF THE PROCESS.

SO WHAT HAPPENED IN THE ACT WAS THAT THEY, BECAUSE THEY, PEOPLE WERE HAVING SUCH A HARD TIME SPENDING THE MONEY, THEY STARTED LOOSENING UP THE STANDARD, THE GUIDELINES WE GOT CAUGHT UP IN THAT OURSELVES BECAUSE THEY LOOSENED UP THE ISSUE ABOUT OVERTIME VERSUS JUST, UH, EMERGENCY RESPONDERS.

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AND EXPANSIONS IS PARTICULARLY IN THE Q AND A PORTION OF THE INTERIM FINAL RULE.

AND IT WAS SUBMITTED BY BOTH NEKO AND TIDAL BASIN.

I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE SAYING, RENOVATIONS, BUT THEY DIDN'T KNOW HOW FAR YOU CAN GO TO RENOVATE.

AND IN THE COURSE, ONE WITH OUR FIRST DISCUSSION WITH, UH, THE ADD ON TO THE JUSTICE CENTER, IT WASN'T SPECIFICALLY SAID IT'S A SEPARATE BUILDING AND WE WEREN'T GOING TO JOIN IT.

AND THIS ONE, I ASKED THE QUESTION, BUT NOW THE DESIGN HAS CHANGED TO WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE, WHERE WE CONSIDER IT.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

BECAUSE OF THE VALUE ENGINEERING, THEY WERE ABLE TO, UM, LOOK AT THE METER SIZES AND LAWNS AND STUFF GOING THROUGH.

SO REALLY THEY ARE JUST GOING FOR LIKE TWO BUILDINGS.

UM, NOW IT WOULD RENOVATE ALL OF YOUR SUB COURTHOUSES, UM, THE KSL, THE, THE LARGER ADD ON GSO SUBSTATION, UM, ALL OF YOUR SUB COURTHOUSES AND THEN THE, UM, MASTER PLAN FOR THE EDA GRANT.

EVERYTHING IN BLUE IS WHAT, THE, WHAT THAT MONEY'S GOING TO GO TO.

THAT'S ON ANOTHER PAGE HERE.

OTHER WORDS, IF, IF THE, IF WE, IF THE FUNDING, IF WE, IF WE DON'T EXPECT WE'RE, WE'RE ASSUMING THAT THAT RESCUE PHONES ARE NOT GOING TO BE PROVIDED BY THAT, UH, FOR THE JUVENILE OR DESIGN COULD PULL OUT OF YOUR BOND.

THAT'S WHAT I SAY.

IT'S A LOT OF STUFF TO GET FIVE MINUTES TO, WE'VE TRIED TO, UM, THE PROJECTS THEMSELVES HAVE WE, WE'VE NOT REALLY DEVIATED FROM, YOU KNOW, THE LAST TIME WE REALLY SAT DOWN AND TALKED ABOUT WHERE THE DEPARTMENTS WOULD GO.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT WAS JUST A MATTER OF FIGURING OUT WHAT THE US TREASURY INFORMATION WAS GOING TO PROVIDE, WHAT WE THOUGHT WE COULD DO BETTER WITH THE FUNDS.

YOU KNOW, INITIALLY WE THOUGHT THAT WE COULD COMBINE BUILDINGS, BUT THEN LEARNING THAT WE NEED TO KEEP THE JPS IN THEIR PRECINCT.

SO SOME OF THAT HAS CHANGED A LITTLE BIT, BUT AS FAR AS WHAT YOU ULTIMATELY WANTED TO ACCOMPLISH, YOU WOULD STILL GET ALL OF THE FACILITY RENOVATIONS.

WELL, WE'RE OPERATING UNDER RIGHT NOW IS WHAT'S CALLED THE PROPOSED FINAL RULE, WHICH IS THE INTERIM FINAL RULE, WHICH IS KIND OF FUNNY.

IT'S LIKE A NON-REFUNDABLE DEPOSIT, BUT IT HAS BEEN NICE THAT THEY'VE POSTED Q AND A'S.

AND THOSE DO COME DIRECTLY FROM THE USG GOING ON A PRESSURE.

THAT'S ALL THAT, YOU KNOW, MY BIG FEAR IS TO GO TOO FAST AND WE JUST JUMPED OUT THERE AND WHERE THEY EXPERIMENT.

AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY TELL US TO COME BACK LIKE THAT $13 MILLION OR SOMETHING.

SO THE REASON THAT I ALSO ATTACH THE CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE IS BECAUSE I KIND OF WANTED TO TALK ABOUT LIKE HOW WE WOULD RELEASE THIS SO THAT WE'RE REPORTING AND MOVING SLOW AS FAR AS WHAT INFORMATION WE'RE GETTING BACK FROM THE U S TREASURY.

SO, UM, INITIALLY IN GROUP ONE, I'VE PUT TOGETHER THE EXPANSION OF THE JUSTICE CENTER, MAINLY BECAUSE OF VALUE ENGINEERING OF THAT FACILITY CURRENTLY GOING UP.

UM, WE WOULD GO AHEAD WITH YOUR PERMISSION, MOVE INTO DESIGN AND BID FOR THE KSS SUBSTATION.

UM, START THE MASTER PLAN IN GRANT WRITING PROCESS FOR THE OUTDOOR RECREATION AND, UM, DESIGN ONLY FOR THE COURTHOUSE AND THE COURTHOUSE ANNEX BECAUSE ALL OF THAT CAN BE WORKING IN THE BACKGROUND WHILE THE JUSTICE CENTER IS BEING COMPLETED.

WE CAN'T START CONSTRUCTION IN THE COURTHOUSE UNTIL THE JUSTICE CENTER STARTS OR IS OPEN.

SO THAT WOULD GIVE US, YOU KNOW, THROUGH AUGUST OF NEXT YEAR TO GET THAT BUILDING OPEN.

AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE OPEN SPACE READY FOR THE ANNEX, BUT WE WOULD ALREADY HAVE THE DESIGN PROCESS.

SO WHEN CONSTRUCTION OF THE ANNEX AND COURTHOUSE STARTS, UM, WE COULD MOVE INTO DESIGN BID FOR THE SUB COUNTY COURTHOUSES.

UM, AND THAT WOULD ALSO LEAVE US A FEW MONTHS WHERE WE COULD MOVE OFFICES IN AND OUT OF 1 0 1 NORTH HOUSTON, AS SOON AS WE MOVED DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, IT, ET CETERA.

SO I TRIED TO PUSH THE SUB COURT HOUSES THERE TOWARDS THE END WHEN THAT BUILDING WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO IF WE NEEDED TO MOVE SOME PEOPLE AROUND.

UM, THE ONE THING ABOUT THE JUVENILE DETENTION CENTER IS I DID INCLUDE THAT ON THE CONSTRUCTION CALENDAR.

UM, AS FAR AS DOING THE FINAL DESIGN AND FINISHING UP THE CONCEPT DESIGN, THEY ARE PREPARED TO PRESENT THEIR CONCEPT DESIGN, UM, YOU KNOW, IS IT'S DEFINITELY A PROJECT THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT IT'S ONE THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED FOR CONSTRUCTION.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE ASK WOULD ALSO BE THAT WE CONTINUE DESIGN WORK FOR THAT AS WELL.

UM, THOSE FUNDS WOULD BE AVAILABLE THROUGH, UM, THE MONEY THAT WE'RE ABLE TO SAVE ON THE BOND.

WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY EXPAND THE AMERICAN RESCUE FUNDS ON THAT UNTIL WE HAD FINAL APPROVAL OF A NEW FACILITY.

AND THOSE DESIGN THINGS THAT THEY'D BE DOING ON THE JUVENILE DETENTION CENTER ARE NOT PERISHABLE.

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SO IF WE THINK, IF WE THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BUILD A JUVENILE DETENTION CENTER IN THIS COUNTY, THOSE DESIGN, THE DESIGN WORK THAT THEY DO IS NOT PERISHABLE.

IT'S NOT WHAT IF IT DOESN'T, IF WE DON'T GET IT FUNDED IN A YEAR OR TWO, IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO THROW IT AWAY, RIGHT.

ADDITIONS OR WHATEVER THEY NEED TO DO.

IF THE LAWS LAW WOULD CHANGE THREE TIMES UNTIL YEARS, YOU DON'T TELL HIM.

RIGHT.

BUT TO PUT COLOR TVS AND EVERYTHING.

OF COURSE MY BIGGEST CONCERN WITH ALL THIS IS WE'RE DEALING WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CHANNEL TRUST A SECOND PARAGRAPH REALLY CONCERNS ME.

IT'S BASICALLY LIKE, YOU KNOW, YEAH.

WE MAY OR MAY NOT.

AND YEAH, I MAY ASK FOR OUR MONEY BACK.

WE DON'T KNOW YET.

I MEAN, IT'S LIKE THIS THING IS JUST, I DON'T KNOW.

I THINK, I THINK WE KNOW AS MUCH AS WE ARE, WE'RE GOING TO KNOW ABOUT THIS.

IT'S KIND OF SCORE LIKE, UH, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE DEALT WITH WITH THE CARES ACT TOO.

UM, WELL, WE'RE IN THE SAME BOAT WITH EVERY OTHER COUNTY IN THE COUNTRY.

WELL, WHAT'S THE TIMELINE ON THE FINAL REVISION? OH, THEY'VE NOT RELEASED WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE IT.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHY THEY'VE BEEN RELEASING THE Q AND A IS BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BE A LIVE DOCUMENT UNTIL FIND OUT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SPEND THE MONEY.

AND IF THEY'RE NOT ABLE, IF THEY'RE NOT GETTING ENOUGH OF THIS INFORMATION, THEN THEY'RE GOING TO START LOOSENING.

AND THAT'S WHY YOU'VE HAD SO MANY PEOPLE LOBBYING FOR PLAYS IN THE VERY SPECIFIC QUESTION.

AND YOU CAN HOLD THEM TO THE Q AND A BECAUSE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS WHERE, BUT THE, LIKE THE, SOME COORDINATORS WE WON'T, WE WON'T TOUCH THOSE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE SOME OTHER ISSUES ON THOSE, I THINK, UM, THAT THEY DO WITH THAT.

SO, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN, THE CONSTRUCTION CALENDAR IS VERY AGGRESSIVE IN THAT IF EVERYONE FELT VERY GOOD AND WE WOULD FINISH BY 2024, IF THERE CAME A POINT WHERE WE NEEDED TO SLOW DOWN, WE BUILT IN WHERE WE'VE STILL GOT 18, 24 MONTHS ON THE BACKEND.

SO, UM, IT'S NOT DESIGNED SO THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE LAST DAY.

SO THERE'S PLENTY OF TIME TO PUSH HIRING TIDAL BASIN.

I MEAN, WE HAVE DONE, WE HAVE DONE ALL THE DUE DILIGENCE THAT WE CAN POSSIBLY DO USING, UTILIZING THEIR EXPERTISE AND THEY WILL BE THE ONES THAT, UM, HELP WITH REPORTING.

AND THEN ALSO BE THE ONES THAT CONTACT US TREASURY IF WE HAVE ISSUES ALONG THE WAY.

YES, SIR.

AND ONE THING I AM EXCITED ABOUT, AND YOU KIND OF TALKED TO ME THE OTHER DAY ABOUT THAT THIS OUTDOOR RECREATION MASTER PLAN DEAL THAT'S AUSTIN.

I MEAN, THAT IS JUST AWESOME.

I MEAN, THAT'S, I THINK THAT THE CONCEPT OUT THERE IS GOING TO BE REALLY, REALLY NEAT.

YEAH, YEAH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES.

I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING TO REMEMBER IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE THE DUE DILIGENCE AND EVERY ONE OF THESE PROJECTS IS, IS A NEEDED PROJECT.

THESE ARE NOT JUST WISHES.

THESE ARE THINGS THAT REALLY NEED TO HAPPEN FOR THIS COUNTY TO, TO REALLY MORPHIN TO THE CONTINUED SERVICE THAT WILL, WILL BE REQUIRED AS OUR POPULATION GROWS.

AND WE ARE, WE ARE TAKING WITH TITLE, A CONSERVATIVE APPROACH.

IF YOU READ THOSE FOUR POINTS, WE, THE, THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING ALL MEET THOSE FOUR POETS.

THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAD IS BASED ON THE BUDGET AS PRESENTED, UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE NOT GOING TO EXPAND ALL OF THE AMERICAN RESCUE FUNDS IN, SO A TITLE BASED AND REACHED OUT AND HAS OFFERED TO SEE IF YOU WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO CREATE A GRANT APPLICATION PROCESS, UM, LIKE THE APPLICATION AND THE REVIEW, UH, EQUATION, AS WELL AS THE FINANCIAL REPORTING, IF YOU WANTED TO DO ANY GRANTS FOR THE COMMUNITY.

UM, WASN'T SURE IF YOU WENT IN TO SET ASIDE SOME FUNDS WITH THE FIRST RELEASE, UH, MONEY FROM THE U S TREASURY AND THEN SET ASIDE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GOT YOUR SECOND PAYMENT, UH, JUST SOMETHING THAT THEY WANTED TO BRING FORWARD NOW, BECAUSE THAT'S A LOT OF REPORTING FOR SMALLER ENTITIES AND SMALLER GROUPS.

IT DOWN TO, YOU KNOW, THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT CATEGORIES AND CREATE AN APPLICATION FOR EACH AND GO AHEAD AND TELL THEM UP FRONT WHAT THE FINANCIAL REPORTING WOULD BE, THE APPLICATION PROCESS AND THE DUE DILIGENCE.

DID THEY HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT JUST A CONCEPT OF WHAT KIND OF A PROJECT? WELL, WHAT THEY WOULD DO IS THEY WOULD DESIGN THE APPLICATION BASED ON THE INFORMATION FROM US TREASURY AND JUST MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD PROBABLY, HE SAID THEY COULD BREAK

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UM, AND THEN THAT WAY IT WAS KIND OF LAID OUT BEFOREHAND AND IT WOULDN'T BE SO CUMBERSOME ON THE SMALLER ENTITIES FOR REPORTING.

WELL, YOU KNOW, I, I, I THINK I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, BUT IT STILL SCARES ME IF WE GIVE AWAY MONEY, WE NEED MORE MONEY AT THE END OF THE PROJECTS, BECAUSE I MEAN, I JUST HAD A CONVERSATION WITH A RURAL WATER SYSTEM THE OTHER DAY, AND THEN ONE WAS STEVE THIS MORNING.

AND I THINK THERE'S A, STEVE IS, THERE'S A, THERE'S A STATUTE THAT REQUIRES WEB GENERATORS FOR THESE UTILITY COMPANIES WHEN THEY LOST TO THE GRID, THEY LOST WATER ALSO.

SO THEY'RE BEING MANDATED TO DO SOME, AGAIN, UNFUNDED MANDATES PASSED ON TO THESE UTILITY COMPANIES, WHICH WOULD BE IDEAL FOR THIS TYPE OF MONEY TOO.

SO I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO HELP SOMEBODY, BUT TEND TO STILL SCARY.

WE HAVE ENOUGH PADDING IN HERE TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

THIS IS JUST A DESIGN TO THE APPLICATION PROCESS, NOT TO ACTUALLY COMMIT TO GIVE.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND THEN THAT WAY YOU COULD BE WORKING THROUGH THAT, LIKE, AS YOU HAVE DIFFERENT IDEAS, AND THEN THAT WAY, WHENEVER YOU WERE READY TO ROLL OUT THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE APPLICATION AND THE NOTIFICATIONS FOR THE ENTITIES.

AND THERE WOULDN'T A LOT OF QUESTIONS WHENEVER YOU WRITE.

NO.

SO US A CHANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE USE EVERY BIT OF MONEY THAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO RECEIPT.

CORRECT.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS, ABOUT THIS PROCESS WITH THE, ABOUT PROVIDING FUNDS TO OTHERS IS THE FACT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT AND WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING WITH THE FACILITIES.

EVEN THOUGH YOU SAY THAT WE'VE GOT, YOU'VE GOT SOME TIME BUILT IN, AND THIS, THIS IS STILL DOING THESE RENOVATIONS AND EXPANSIONS ON THESE BUILDINGS.

AND THE TIMELINE THAT WE'RE PRESENTING IS, UH, TIME'S A WASTING, IT TAKES, IT TAKES TIME TO DO THESE THINGS.

SO, UH, THERE WON'T BE THAT KIND OF URGENCY WITH OTHER MONEY, RIGHT? NO.

ITEM 10, UH, RAYMOND SMITH DISCUSS CONSIDER APPROVAL OF OUTDOOR RECREATION, MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT IN PROJECT SUBMISSION TO THE U S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ADMINISTRATION, TRAVEL TOURISM AND OUTDOOR RECREATION GRANT UPON FINAL REVIEW OF APPLICATION BY COMMISSIONERS COURT TO SPECIFICALLY ASK FOR PERMISSION TO GET A TASK ORDER FROM TIDAL BASIN TO MOVE FORWARD ON THE EDA GRANT WRITING.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON ITEM NINE? UM, UM, BECAUSE THE IS MAINLY ON THESE THREE ABSOLUTELY FULLY HOMELESS PAVEMENT AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, OKAY.

SO I THINK A PROPER MOTION WOULD BE TO, TO AUTHORIZE THE PURCHASING AGENT TO PROCEED WITH THESE CAPITAL FACILITY PROJECTS AS PRESENTED, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION WHERE THAT EMOTIONAL COMMISSIONER KATES, IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE, THOSE OPPOSED, NO MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

ALL THAT.

THAT'S REALLY GOOD.

AND I THINK THAT, UH, I CAN'T IMAGINE US NAVIGATING THIS THING ON OUR OWN WITH THE AMOUNT OF MONEY INVOLVED.

UM, SO NEXT UP

[10. Raylan Smith; Discuss and consider approval of Outdoor Recreation Master Plan development and project submission to US Economic Development Administration (EDA) - Travel, Tourism, and Outdoor Recreation Grant, upon final review of application by Commissioners' Court.]

UM, YOU HAVE APPROVED THE MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT IN THE PREVIOUS ADAM, UM, BUT JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE WAS GOOD WITH US MOVING FORWARD WITH GATHERING THE INFORMATION AND HOSTING THE MEETINGS TO GET THE INFORMATION TOGETHER FOR THIS MASTER PLAN.

AND THEN OF COURSE THE FINAL APPLICATION AND EVERYTHING WOULD COME BACK TO YOU FOR APPROVAL, WHENEVER YOU, WHENEVER THEY MEET, THEY'RE GOING TO MEET WITH ALL THE PARTIES THAT WILL BE INVOLVED.

DISCUSSING CONSIDER APPROVAL OF VENDOR CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS FOR RFQ 2121 CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AGENT SERVICES.

AND WE WANT TO DO AREA CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE AND THE EDC PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENTS, AND REALLY SHOW, UM, UH, REACH OUT TO THE ENTIRE COUNTY.

NO, OKAY.

UH, ANY MORE QUESTIONS, IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION AUTHORIZE THE, UH, SUBMISSION FOR THE US ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ADMINISTRATION GRANT? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION WITH A MOTION COMMISSIONER HAUNT.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED NO MOTION CARRIES BACK TO REAGAN AGAIN,

[11. Raylan Smith; (TABLED 09.07.2021) Discuss and consider approval of vendor contract negotiations for RFQ 21-21: Construction Manager Agent Services - Kaufman County Master Plan Facility Projects.]

THESE ARE THE MASTER PLAN FACILITY PROJECTS.

THIS WOULD BE TO ENTER INTO NEGOTIATIONS WITH GALLAGHER

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CONSTRUCTION, UM, AS THE FINAL SCORING FOR THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE.

AND EACH CONTRACT WILL BE BROUGHT BACK INDIVIDUALLY.

UH, JUST LIKE WITH THE ARCHITECTS, FOR THE LISTED PROJECTS THAT YOU APPROVED GENTLEMEN, TO ASK THIS QUESTION, THIS MIGHT NOT BE THE TIME TO DISCUSS THIS.

SO I GUESS, BUT THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS ON THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE, WHAT KIND OF CRITERIA DO YOU USE TO PICK FOR ALL OF YOUR RFQ? NOT JUST THIS ONE, BUT THE WHOLE HISTORY.

HOW DO YOU DECIDE WHICH PEOPLE GENERALLY, WE ALWAYS INCLUDE LEGAL, UM, MAJORITY OF THE TIME.

AND YOU ALSO HAVE THE COUNTY AUDITOR.

I, IF THERE IS A CERTAIN DEPARTMENT THAT HELPED WITH WRITING THE SPECIFICATIONS, THEN THEY ARE ALSO PART OF THE EVALUATION PROCESS.

UM, I DON'T ALWAYS INCLUDE INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONERS AND LESS.

UM, IT'S DEFINITELY OUTSIDE OF YOUR PRECINCT, JUST SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE POLITICAL, UM, TAGS THAT Y'ALL WOULD GET.

THAT'S WHY YOU, YOU ALSO STAY AWAY FROM THE ENGINEERING DESIGN, THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, SO WE TRY TO KEEP IT VERY NEUTRAL AND NOT PRECINCT SPECIFIC.

UM, AND I MEAN, THAT'S JUST RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE.

OH, SO THIS IS ALL THE COMMITTEES ARE SET BY THE COMPTROLLER.

NO IT'S RECOMMENDATIONS.

IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, THINGS TO THINK ABOUT WHENEVER YOU'RE BUILDING YOUR COMMITTEE.

AND THE REASON I'M ASKING THIS IS TRADITIONALLY HAS ALWAYS BEEN COMMISSIONERS INVOLVED WITH THESE COMMUNITIES AND IT'S KIND OF JUST KIND OF DRIFTED AWAY, YOU KNOW? AND, AND SO, AND LIKE I SAID, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE TIME MAYBE ACCORDING TO QUORUM OR SOMETHING, THAT'S ANOTHER TOPIC, BUT I JUST WANT TO BRING IT UP.

AND I ACTUALLY MEANT TO BRING IT UP A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WHENEVER I SAW THE COMMITTEES.

AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S THE SAME FOLKS ALL THE TIME.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT, THE DECISION IS THAT THOSE ARE MORE NEUTRAL DEPARTMENTS.

UM, AND THAT'S ALWAYS HOW YOU WANT TO PORTRAY THE DECISIONS.

UM, YOU KNOW, UH, WHENEVER WE'VE HAD EVALUATIONS SPECIFICALLY WITHIN YOUR PRECINCT AND ACTUALLY IT WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD SOME QUESTIONS FROM RTS ABOUT CERTAIN INVOLVEMENTS FROM DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

AND SO JUST WHEN I CALLED AND TRIED TO GET MORE INFORMATION TO JUSTIFY THE EVALUATION COMMITTEES THAT WE PUT TOGETHER, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION IS THAT YOU DON'T EVER WANT TO APPEAR AS THOUGH IT'S PRECINCT WRITTEN.

AND, UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I'LL BE ASLEEP.

YOU PROBABLY HAVE RESOURCES IN YOUR PURCHASING AGENT ASSOCIATION OR WHATEVER, UH, OR THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE.

THERE PROBABLY ARE WRITTEN GUIDELINES THAT YOU COULD COME TO US AND TO EXPLAIN HOW THAT, WHAT THOSE GUIDELINES SAY.

YEAH, I CAN DO THAT.

WE'LL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION LIGHTERS, YOU KNOW, BRING ALL THIS STUFF.

I CAN DO THAT.

THEN ONCE BEFORE IS HERE IS, UH, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF VENDOR CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS FOR RST 2121 CONSTRUCTION MANAGER, AGENT SERVICES.

IS THERE A MOTION I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FROM COMMISSIONER CATES.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER BARBER DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE.

BUILDING, NOT ONLY WOULD THEY KNOW WHERE THEY ARE X AND Y AXIS, BUT THEY WOULD KNOW WHERE THEY ARE EXACTLY WHAT, WHAT FLOOR AND WHERE THEY ARE IN THE BUILDING.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

NEXT ONE IS

[12. Judge Richards; Discuss NCT-911 recognition of Kaufman County Emergency Management.]

MINE.

UH, I INHERITED FROM MY PREDECESSOR JUDGE WOOD.

UH, I GUESS I INHERITED IT.

I'M ON THE BOARD OF THE NCT 9 1 1, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OUR OWN DISTRICT NOW.

THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED DURING THE END OF JUDGE WOOD'S TENURE.

SO THIS BOARD MEETS EVERY MONTH AND, UH, AT OUR LAST MEETING, UM, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT TECHNOLOGY.

I THINK ALL Y'ALL FIND THIS INTERESTING THAT, UM, WHEN A FIRST RESPONDER ROLLS UP TO A SCENE, THE, THE ULTIMATE GOAL WOULD BE THAT IF THIS, IF A CALL IS MADE FROM PARTICULAR PART OF A BUILDING HEART ATTACK WOULD BE A GOOD EXAMPLE THAT THE FIRST RESPONDERS KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THIS PERSON IS.

THE FIRST LEVEL OF THAT IS TO PROVIDE FLOOR PLANS.

THEY CALL IT TO D THE FIRST LEVEL OF THAT WOULD BE PROVIDE FLOOR PLANS OF ALL OF THE SIGNIFICANT BUILDINGS IN THE COUNTY.

UM, AND THE NEXT LEVEL OF THAT IS TO PROVIDE 3D SERVICES, WHICH THERE, THIS IS A TECHNOLOGY THING THAT THE, THE AT T AND T AND VERIZON, ALL OF THEM ARE WORKING ON.

SO THAT IF A FIRST RESPONDER ARRIVED AT A MULTI-STORY

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AND IF THEY HAVE A FLOOR PLAN, THEY WOULD KNOW WHAT ROOM NUMBER THEY'RE IN.

UH, SO IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION IN THE BAR.

I WAS KIND OF PROUD OF THIS.

UM, IT'S THE FIRST THING THEY THOUGHT, WELL, WE'LL START WITH THE EASIEST THING.

AND EASIEST THING WOULD BE TO GET THIS, THE COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OFFICES TO GET THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, TO PROVIDE FOUR PLANS FOR EVERY SCHOOL.

OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT PEOPLE ARE SENSITIVE ABOUT THAT.

WHAT TURNS OUT THAT COFFIN COUNTY IS THE ONLY COUNTY IN THE 22 COUNTIES IN THE CALL WHO HAVE PROVIDED CALLED EVERY FLOOR PLAN FOR EVERY SCHOOL IN KAUFMAN COUNTY.

AGAIN.

SO I WANTED TO BRING THAT TO Y'ALL'S ATTENTION.

THAT'S THE LETTER THAT I GOT FROM THE DIRECTOR OF THE NCT NINE 11.

I WANTED TO, I ASKED STEVE AND HE WAS CALM AND JUST LET US, IT'S PRETTY COOL THING TO BE USED AS AN EXAMPLE FOR ALL OF THE OTHER COUNTIES IN THE 22 COUNTY REGION.

SO STEVE AND DEB.

GOOD, GOOD JOB.

EXCELLENT.

AND, UM, THEY'RE THERE, WE'RE GOING TO BE PROMOTING THIS AND COGS ARE GOING TO BE SENDING THIS INFORMATION OUT TO THE COUNTIES TO TRY TO GET THEM TO DO AS GOOD AS WE'VE DONE AND WANT TO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME OR STEVE.

IT WAS INFORMATION ONLY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[13. Judge Richards; approving no changes to the 2022 Sheriff's and Constables' Fees.]

UH, ITEM 13 IS A STATUTORY THING WHERE WE HAVE TO APPROVE.

NO, THIS IS FUNNY TO ME.

WE HAVE TO APPROVE NO CHANGES IN THE SHERIFF AND CONSTABLE FEES.

THIS IS BY, UH, THIS IS BY ACTION OF THE COURT AND WE HAVE TO SEND THIS TO THE STATE.

SO WE HAVE TO WE'RE, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY CHANGE IN OUR SHERIFF'S FEES AND OUR CONSTABLE FEES.

AND WE GOT TO TAKE ACTION TO TELL HER BUDDY THAT WE'RE NOT CHANGING IT.

SO ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, BUT WE DIDN'T GO DOWN.

WE DIDN'T CHANGE ANYTHING.

SO, UH, I WOULD, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THAT ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS ACTION, THE COURT, NO CHANGES WITH SHERIFFS AND CONSTABLE FEES.

OH MY GOD.

WE HAD EMOTIONAL COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND SACRED COMMISSIONED CAGE DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING I WAS SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT MOTION CARRIES ITEM

[14. Judge Richards; designating the Commissioner's Court Regular Meeting days for the 2021-2022 term.]

14, UH, DESIGNATING THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, REGULAR MEETING DAYS FOR THE 2020 1 22 TERM.

UM, THIS IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DO EVERY YEAR AND THE PLAN WOULD BE, UNLESS THERE'S OTHER DISCUSSIONS IS WE WOULD JUST ADOPT THE SAME SCHEDULE THAT WE HAVE NOW MARKSMAN ME, JUDGE.

I JUST WOULD LIKE TO RAISE THAT I'VE HAD OVER THE LAST YEAR OR SO.

I'VE HAD, UM, UH, SEVERAL REQUESTS THAT THE COURT CONSIDER OCCASIONALLY SCHEDULING A COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING AFTER FIVE O'CLOCK, WHERE PEOPLE THAT HAVE A JOB AND, UH, HAVE TO DURING THE DAY, UH, EITHER ARE PRECLUDED FROM WATCHING THE LIVE FEED, UH, OR ATTENDING A MEETING AS A RESULT THAT THE COURT CONSIDER AT LEAST OCCASIONALLY SCHEDULING A COMMISSIONER'S COURT SESSION IN THE EVENING.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S FUNNY ABOUT THIS, ABOUT THIS PROCESS IS WE HAVE TO DESIGNATE REGULAR COURT MEETING DAYS.

NOW, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS.

I THINK THE BUDGET IS ONE.

THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT BY, BY LAW HAVE TO BE, THEY HAVE TO BE AT A REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING, BUT WE HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO THIS.

THE SCHEDULE IS NOT REALLY BINDING ON US.

SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO ON THE FLY.

I MEAN, IF WE WANTED TO MEET, UH, IF WE WANTED TO SCHEDULE MEETING, MAYBE IF WE HAD SOMETHING, A PARTICULAR PUBLIC INTEREST, WE COULD SCHEDULE A MEETING FOR, UH, NON WORK HOURS, BUT WE CAN DO THAT ON THE FLY, RIGHT? BASICALLY IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, CRITICAL TO THE, TO THE COMMUNITY THAT COME IN, COME IN AND DRESS BECAUSE NOT ONLY DO YOU AFFECT US, YOU AFFECT THE CLERK'S OFFICE, YOU AFFECT THE PRODUCTION COMPANIES, YOU PROTECT EVERYBODY THAT WE DEAL WITH.

AND WE NEED TO START DEALING WITH COMP TIME AND OTHER THINGS IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND EVERYBODY ELSE IN THIS.

AND I ALWAYS EXPLAIN THAT TO THE CONSTITUENTS THAT RAISED IT, THAT YOU KNOW, THAT THERE'S A LOT OF SALARY TIME AND BUSINESS TIME, BUT THERE ARE STILL, AT LEAST IN MY PRECINCT, THERE'S STILL AN OCCASIONAL, UH, INTEREST IN, IN JUST BEING ABLE TO PARTICIPATE.

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AND SO, UH, I, I CERTAINLY RECOGNIZE THAT WE NEED TO SET A DEFINITIVE SCHEDULE, BUT I WOULD, I'M JUST PROPOSING THAT FROM TIME TO TIME THAT WE CONSIDER, UM, SCHEDULING A REGULAR COURT SESSION AND MOVING IT TO THE EVENING.

UH, REALLY, I GUESS IF FOR NO OTHER REASON JUST TO SEE WHAT THE ACTUAL PARTICIPATION MIGHT BE.

I THINK THE IDEA WOULD BE IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT, I THINK WOOD IS BASICALLY A MEETING, BUT YEAH, A SPECIAL A MEETING THAT WOULD BE A PARTICULAR INTEREST TO THE PUBLIC.

SOMETHING THAT WE'RE DOING THAT WOULD BE, AND WE'VE CERTAINLY DONE THAT.

WE DID THAT ON SOME OTHER HOT TOPIC ISSUES, BUT, UH, THAT'S A REQUEST THAT I HEAR, UH, SEVERAL TIMES A MONTH.

ITEM 15, APPROVING 2020 Y'ALL HAVE THIS.

UH, OKAY.

SO FOR NOW, UM, UH, I NEED A MOTION TO DESIGNATE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, REGULAR MEETING DAYS FOR 2122, WHICH WOULD BE THE SAME SCHEDULE EVERY TUESDAY, NINE O'CLOCK AS WE HAVE NOW.

OH MY GOD.

WE HAD EMOTIONAL COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SAY MICHELLE HAHN DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE, THOSE OPPOSED, NO MOTION CARRIES

[15. Judge Richards; approving the 2022 official holidays for Kaufman County employees.]

AND IF YOU HAVEN'T PULLED IT OUT AND LOOKED AT IT, OR MAYBE YOU DON'T HAVE, I THINK I'VE GOT THE COPIES RIGHT HERE.

NO, THIS IS A HOLIDAY SCHEDULE.

UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I, THAT WE NEED TO NOTE IS THAT, UM, I'M LOOKING FOR THAT DAY ON HERE.

WE HAVE TO ADD JUNE 10TH, RIGHT? YEAH.

THAT'S WHAT I'M.

UM, BUT IT'S NOT CALLED JUNE 10TH.

IT'S CALLED SOMETHING ELSE.

WHAT'S IT CALLED? EMANCIPATION DAY, I THINK.

UM, BUT I DON'T SEE THAT ON THIS LIST.

IT'S NOT.

SO THE QUESTION IS, DO WE, DO WE, DO WE WANT TO ADOPT THIS SCHEDULE? UH, LET'S TALK FIRST ABOUT, UH, DO WE WANT TO ADD, UH, JUNETEENTH AS A OFFICIAL COUNTY HOLIDAY DISCUSSION COMMENTS? WELL, THAT'S A FEDERAL HOLIDAY, CORRECT? YESTERDAY.

THERE'S A NEW FEDERAL HOLIDAY.

SO I WOULD, I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO ADD IT.

DID Y'ALL EVERYBODY I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA MAKE THAT, UM, I MEAN, I'M GOING TO PUT THAT TOGETHER AND FORM OF EMOTION, BUT IT IS THAT EVERYBODY SEEMS TO BE YES.

THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

YEP.

SO THAT WOULD BE AT JUNE 19TH, RIGHT? RIGHT.

19TH EMANCIPATION DAY.

NOW THE PRESIDENT, THE PRESIDENT TERMED IT.

UH, I DO HEAR MY PROCLAIM.

JUNE 19TH IS JUNETEENTH DAY OF OBSERVANCE.

SO IT IS JUNE 10TH, OFFICIALLY.

THEN, UM, ON CHRISTMAS, UH, IF YOU'LL LOOK AT YOUR CALENDAR, I'M SORRY THAT THIS YEAR TOO.

MA'AM.

OH, WAIT, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO TAKE THAT MONDAY.

IT'D BE A MONDAY, ALL DAY, RIGHT? IF IT'S ONE DAY, IS IT, BUT WE TREAT ALL HOLIDAYS TYPICALLY IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THEY WOULD MOVE IT TO EITHER THE MONDAY, WHATEVER DAY THEY, THE BANKS AND THEY MAY MOVE IT TO, WILL WE JUST MAKE IT THE WE'LL ADOPT THE SAME, WHATEVER WE'LL, WE'LL RECOGNIZE JUNETEENTH AS THE SAME DAY THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT RECOGNIZES IT.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAY.

UM, CHRISTMAS IS ON SUNDAY.

SO DO WE WANT TO BE OFF THURSDAY, FRIDAY OR FRIDAY? MONDAY, AND I SUGGEST FRIDAY, MONDAY.

I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.

I WOULD THINK THE THREE DAY, YEAH, I WILL.

IT IS THREE DAYS.

WELL, OKAY.

OH, THAT MAKES MORE SENSE.

SO WOULD IT BE, SO WOULD IT BE THURSDAY, FRIDAY AND MONDAY OR WOULD IT BE,

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DOESN'T IT? YEAH.

THURSDAY, FRIDAY AND MONDAY.

SO IT WOULD BE THE 23RD, 22ND, 23RD AND 26TH.

AND THEN, UM, THE LAST ONE IN QUESTION NEW YEAR'S NEW, YEAR'S NEW YEAR'S, WHICH IS, UH, NEW YEAR'S DAY IS MONDAY.

I MEAN, IT'S SUNDAY.

UH, SO DO WE WANT TO CHOOSE MONDAY OR FRIDAY? IS THE, OKAY.

I WOULD THINK MOST PEOPLE WOULD WANT MONDAY BECAUSE THEY MIGHT NOT WAKE UP AS EARLY NOW.

HUH.

YOU KNOW, AND SOME OF THEM MIGHT HAVE TO GO OVER AND SEE BRIAN AND GET THEM OUT.

I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, I'M JUST SAYING THAT MAYBE A, OKAY, SO HERE'S THE, UH, IF IT'S OKAY, IF EVERYBODY'S READY, I'LL MAKE THIS INTO A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT THE FOLLOWING HOLIDAY SCHEDULE, MARTIN LUTHER KING GAY JANUARY 17TH, PRESIDENT'S DAY, FEBRUARY 21ST.

GOOD FRIDAY, APRIL 15TH, MEMORIAL DAY, MAY 30TH, INDEPENDENCE DAY, JULY 4TH, LABOR DAY, SEPTEMBER 5TH, COLUMBUS DAY, OCTOBER 10TH.

VETERAN'S DAY, NOVEMBER 11TH, THANKSGIVING, NOVEMBER 24 AND 25 CHRISTMAS, DECEMBER 22, 23 AND 26.

UM, NEW YEAR'S HOLIDAY WOULD BE THE, THAT WOULD BE JANUARY 2ND, MONDAY, JANUARY 2ND.

AND THAT WE WOULD ADD JUNETEENTH AS AN OFFICIAL COUNTY HOLIDAY AND WE WOULD MATCH, WE WOULD, OUR HOLIDAY WOULD BE THE SAME DAY AS OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

SO THAT'S MY MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM ME AND THE SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER FACTS, DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

ITEM 16, DISCUSS, CONSIDER POSTING HUMAN RESOURCE DIRECTOR POSITION.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES

[16. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider posting Human Resource Director position.]

SO, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, I THINK.

OR THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN A MATTER OF CONVERSATION.

UM, IS THAT ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT QUESTIONS? YEAH, I GUESS AS FAR AS PAYING FOR THAT POSITION FOURTH, WHAT? WE JUST AMEND THE BUDGET WHEN WE, IF WE DO THIS MOVE FORWARD TO HR IS NOT BUDGETED.

RIGHT.

SO WE JUST AMEND THE BUDGET, HOW WE DO.

IT'S NOT BAD ATTITUDE.

YOU DON'T EVEN BUDGET FOR A DIRECTOR.

SO, I MEAN, SO I GUESS HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THAT BEFORE WE S I'LL FIX IT FOR YOU? OKAY.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M ASKING.

NO.

SEE, IT'S HIRING SOMEBODY OF THIS SALARY ZERO.

I MEAN, SO WE'RE HUMBLY MAPPING SOMEBODY OUT OUT.

UM, YOU HAVE A VACANT POSITION NOW, BUT THAT IS A CLERK POSITION.

DO YOU WANT TO ADD, USE THAT CLERK POSITION AND ADD UP WHAT YOU WOULD PAY A DIRECTOR OR YOU WANT THAT POSITION TO? WELL, I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE, I THINK WE SHOULD REPLACE THAT POSITION, MY PROPOSAL TO REPLACE THAT POSITION WITH A DIRECTOR AND ADJUST THE SALARY.

NOW WE'VE GOT THE MATTERS OF THE DETAILS OF THE POSTING.

UH, HOW DO WE WANT TO MANAGE THAT? OF COURSE, THE POSTING WILL HAVE TO INCLUDE, NORMALLY WOULD INCLUDE SOME WAGE RANGE.

ISN'T THAT THE WAY WE'VE DONE IT IN THE PAST YEAR.

SO, UM, JERRY, DO YOU HAVE, UH, DO YOU HAVE, HAVE YOU DONE ANY RESEARCH ON THAT AND SOME, JUST SOME RANGES.

SO THE RAINS THAT WAS IN THE AVERAGE SCREEN STUDY WAS 74 TO ONE 14.

AND THAT WAS THE RANGE.

THE PREVIOUS POSITION ALL IN WAS 73, 6 90.

ONE OF THE ONLY COUNTY I WAS ABLE TO FIND WAS ELLIS COUNTY.

THEY'RE AT 97, 5 27.

SO BASED UPON THIS, I THINK THE RANGE WOULD THE 73, THE RANGE THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE RANGE OF SIMILAR DEPARTMENT ED JOBS WITHIN THE COUNTY.

AND ACCORDING TO THE EVERGREEN STUDY, IT FELL IN THAT SAME CLASSIFICATION RANGE OF ALL THOSE PEOPLE.

SO I WOULD THINK SOMEWHERE IN THAT 70 TO 80 RANGE IS ABOUT WHERE, WHERE, WHERE WE LAND SOMEWHERE IN THAT ZONE.

75 TO 85, MAYBE.

YEP.

HOW ABOUT 70 TO 85? YEAH, NOT THE SAME AS FIRE MARSHALL.

WE'LL GET IT UP TO THE TOP OF THE PUNCH.

WAS THAT CLERK'S POSITION? UM, FOUR 30 WHO'S THE BASE OF IT WAS 35 AND SOME CHANGE.

MEAN IT MIGHT NEED TO BE LOOKED AT AND REVISED, BUT IT'S THREE PAGES.

SO I'D HAVE TO ADJUST IT BY AT LEAST 50 CAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE THE INSURANCE WORKING ON, SO I CAN WORK UP TO THAT BEFORE WE HAVE AN EXISTING JOB DESCRIPTION,

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SO IT'S A LITTLE, IT'S A LITTLE MUCH PAGE.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

UH, SO I MEAN, AND I TOO, AS FAR AS THE SALARY AND STUFF, AND WE'RE FINDING THE MONEY, I MEAN, IT SAYS THERE'S JOB DESCRIPTIONS THAT HAVE CHANGED BECAUSE OF THIS.

CAN WE CHANGE A SALARY? THAT'S ALREADY BEEN BUDGETED IF WE CHANGE THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME RESPONSIBILITIES THAT THEY HAD, WE WOULD JUST ELIMINATE THAT POSITION.

RIGHT.

WE WOULD ELIMINATE THAT POSITION.

WE JUST USE THAT MONEY AND ADD TO IT, TO PUT THE DIRECTOR POSITION BACK IN, BUT WE GIVE, WE CAN DO THAT.

UM, IT'S WELL, I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK WE CAN GET THE, UNLESS, UNLESS WE WANT TO, UH, UNLESS WE WANT TO JUST GO AHEAD AND AUTHORIZE, I'LL BE PERFECTLY WILLING TO JUST HAVE JERRY DO THE RESEARCH AND, AND WRITE A JOB DESCRIPTION TO ME.

IT'S AN HR DIRECTOR.

IT SHOULDN'T BE THAT COMPLICATED.

I MEAN, THAT'S A STANDARD THING.

UM, AND THEN POST THE JOB FOR 70 TO 85,000 AND HR DIRECTORS THINK THEY ALL KNOW WHAT IT IS.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A STANDARD JOB.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT SHOULDN'T BE, IT'S NOT UNIQUE TO THE COUNTY.

UM, SO IF I'LL JUST, SINCE I'M ALREADY, I'LL JUST PUT THAT IN THE FORM OF A MOTION THAT WE, UH, INSTRUCT, UH, JERRY TO, UH, AMEND THE JOB DESCRIPTION FOR HR DIRECTOR AND POST THAT JOB WITH A SALARY RANGE OF 70 TO 85,000.

THAT'S MY MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION, JUDGE.

I JUST, CAN WE, CAN WE ADD THAT, UH, THAT THIS MOTION WILL INCLUDE THE ELIMINATION OF THE VACANT, UH, HR POSITION? YES.

AND I'LL ACCEPT THAT AS AN AMENDMENT TO MY MOTION IS YOUR SECOND STILL GOOD SCHEME.

THE DISCUSSIONS THAT ARE LINE ON TRANSFERS.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED NO MOTION CARRIES ALL UNDER THE AUDITOR.

[17. Auditor; Discuss/Consider line-item transfers.]

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LINE AND APPEARANCE FIRMS OR BUDGET AMENDMENTS? IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LINE I'M TRANSFERS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED? I MIGHT GET MOTION.

SHE SOUNDED SO EXCITED.

MOTION COMMISSIONER ON FOR APPROVAL.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND SEGMENT COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO MOTION CARRIES.

ALL RIGHT.

AUTOMATE TEAM DISCUSS, CONSIDER CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

UM, WE, YOU STARTED THIS AND SO

[18. Auditor; Discuss/Consider claims for payment.]

OUR CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT ARE $560,668 AND 52 SOUNDS KIND OF DEEP QUESTIONS IF YOU'RE NO QUESTION, IS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT AS PRESENTED? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION A MOTION COMMISSIONER BARBERS OR SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER CAGE DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

I GOT SOMETHING TO ADD.

UM, WE'RE WORKING IN PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF BUDGET CHANGES FOR YOU FOR THE NEW BUDGET SO I CAN GET IT BALANCED AND PUT IN THE SYSTEM.

AND POSSIBLY I FOUND SOME EXTRA MONEY THAT'S GOING TO HELP WITH THIS PHYSICIAN.

SO WE WON'T HAVE TO TAKE A LOT FROM CONTINGENCY.

GREAT WORK.