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LET'S GET THIS THING.[Call to Order]
ROLLING.THIS SPECIAL MEETING OF THE COPLAND COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT IS CALLED ORDER.
IT'S TUESDAY, OCTOBER 19TH AT 1:30 PM.
AND THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING ROOM.
[1. Allison, Bass & Magee, L.L.P.; To receive & provide information, evaluate demographics, take action to establish criteria for redistricting and take possible action regarding redistricting of County political boundaries.]
WELL, WE HAVE TWO ITEMS ONLY AGENDA.WE'LL START WITH THE FIRST ONE, WHICH IS ALISON BASS AND MCGEE TO RECEIVE AND PROVIDE INFORMATION, EVALUATE DEMOGRAPHICS, TAKE ACTION, TO ESTABLISH CRITERIA FOR REDISTRICTING AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING REDISTRICTING OF COUNTY POLITICAL BOUNDARIES.
AND WE HAVE WITH US ERIC MCGEE.
I HELPED HIM OUT HERE IS NOT A GOOD GRIP FOR, UM, SO BASICALLY WE'RE GOING TO DO THREE QUICK THINGS.
FIRST ONE IS THERE'S AN ADOPTION OF ESTABLISHING THE CRITERIA FOR MOVING FORWARD.
IT WAS AN ORDER THAT WE SENT EARLIER AND I THINK SOMEBODY WAS GOING TO BRING ME IN.
UM, UH, DID YOU SAY ANNABEL'S BRINGING IT, DID YOU TALK TO HER? OKAY, SO THE ORDER JUST ESTABLISHING THE CRITERIA IS JUST THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO FOLLOW AS YOU MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS.
AND IT GOES THROUGH, I WON'T READ ALL 14 OF THEM, BUT I WOULD JUST TELL YOU, SO BASICALLY IT'S JUST THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT ADOPTING THE PROCEDURE THAT YOU WILL USE FOR REDRAWING YOUR POLITICAL BOUNDARIES.
AND THERE ARE THINGS LIKE THE PLAN WILL ENSURE THAT THEY FOLLOW ALL APPLICABLE PROVISIONS OF THE U S AND TEXAS CONSTITUTION, THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT AND THE TEXAS ELECTIONS PLAN.
AND THEN IT GOES THROUGH THE WHOLE IDEA OF ONE PERSON, ONE VOTE, WHICH MEANS IF YOU'RE ABOVE 10%, WHICH WE ALREADY KNOW Y'ALL ARE WELL ABOVE 10%, THAT YOU WILL ENSURE THAT YOU BRING THAT DOWN UNDER THE 10%, PREFERABLY UNDER 5%.
AND IF AT ALL POSSIBLE TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY VOTE COUNTS EXACTLY THE SAME FOR EACH COMMISSIONER'S COURT PRECINCT.
UM, IF POSSIBLE, WE WILL ADDRESS MINORITY REPRESENTATION TO DETERMINE IF THERE'S ONE AREA WHERE ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS CAN OBTAIN A MINORITY MAJORITY.
YOU ALREADY HAVE TWO PRECINCTS WHERE ANGLO VOTERS ARE BELOW THE 50% MARK.
THAT'S WHERE I ASKED, UM, ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO, IF YOU HAD AN ESTABLISHED MINORITY PRECINCT OR NOT, UM, CAUSE WE DIDN'T DO YOUR REDISTRICT EVENTS, SO I DON'T HAVE YOUR NUMBERS FROM, FROM THEM.
UM, AND THEN THE OTHER THINGS ARE JUST MAKING SURE THAT YOU WILL NOT FRAGMENT AND YOU WILL PRESERVE MINORITY COMMUNITIES AS BEST YOU CAN.
UM, AND AN ATTEMPT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU DO NOT DILUTE THE MINORITY POPULATION.
AND THERE'S LIKE 14 THINGS IN HERE.
JUST MAKING SURE YOU COMPLY WITH THE TEXAS ELECTION CODE AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
SO YOU WILL ADOPT THAT ORDER, ESTABLISHING THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PROCESS THAT YOU'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH FOR REDISTRICTING.
AND THE OTHER THING IS, SO WE'VE PROVIDED EACH ONE OF YOU, A COPY OF THE INITIAL ASSESSMENT.
THAT'S WHAT'S ON YOUR COMPUTER SCREEN AS WELL AS THAT MAP.
SO YOU WILL SEE THAT PRECINCT TWO GREW SIGNIFICANTLY, UM, OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS.
UM, AND SO WHAT YOU ACTUALLY DO, HOW THIS IS ACCOMPLISHED.
CAUSE I RECEIVED THIS QUESTION A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO IS YOU TAKE YOUR COUNTY'S TOTAL POPULATION AND YOU DIVIDE THAT BY FOUR BECAUSE THERE'S FOUR COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT PRECINCT.
AND THAT COMES UP WITH WHAT THE IDEAL POPULATION WOULD BE.
AND THEN YOU TAKE THE EXISTING COMMISSIONER'S COURT PRECINCT BOUNDARIES, AND YOU, UH, FIGURE OUT HOW FAR AWAY YOU ARE FROM THAT IDEAL POPULATION.
SO IN YOUR CASE FOR YOUR COUNTY, PRECINCT TWO IS 14,000 PEOPLE OVER THE IDEAL POPULATION.
CAUSE YOUR IDEAL POPULATION IS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, YEAH.
I KNOW THAT I NEEDED TO GET WHITE CLOSE TO 15,000 PEOPLE.
AND SO THEN PRECINCT THREE IS 8,000 UNDER THAT IDEAL POPULATION OF 36,328.
SO IS, UM, PRECINCT ONE, RIGHT? AND SO SOMEBODY ASKED ME THE OTHER DAY, HOW DO YOU MAKE 60%, 63.29% WHEN YOU TAKE PRECINCT
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TWO, WHICH IS OVER BY 40.9, 8% AND PRECINCT TO PRECINCT THREE IS UNDER BY 22%.CAUSE THAT'S A NEGATIVE NUMBER THAT DOESN'T COME OUT TO 60 AM.
I EXPLAINED THAT YOU HAVE TO IGNORE THE NEGATIVE SIGN AND YOU'RE ADDING HOW FAR YOUR DEVIATION AS A WAY.
HERE'S YOUR IDEAL NUMBER, 40% OVER 22% UNDER.
AND YOU ADD THOSE TWO NUMBERS TOGETHER AND THAT'S WHERE YOU COME UP WITH THE 63.
SO WE'VE GOT TO WORK ON MOVING THOSE BOUNDARIES DOWN.
SO A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY FROM THAT IS IN THE 1960S, UH, TEXAS WAS REQUIRED TO GO THROUGH AFTER THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT, WE WERE REQUIRED TO GO THROUGH PRE-CLEARANCE THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.
UM, AND SO IN THE 1990S, WHEN THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT, THAT PORTION WAS SET TO EXPIRE, PRESIDENT CLINTON EXTENDED IT THROUGH THE 2000 CENSUS AND THEN PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH EXTENDED AGAIN THROUGH THE 2010 CENSUS.
AND THEN WHEN IT CAME UP FOR RENEWAL AGAIN, PRESIDENT OBAMA DID NOT EXTEND IT.
SO YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO DO THE PRE-CLEARANCE, BUT ALL PRE-CLEARANCE IS FROM ME.
YOU WILL RECEIVE THE SAME BINDER THAT YOU WOULD SUBMIT TO DOJ FOR PRE-CLEARANCE THAT'S JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ALL THE EVIDENCE AND ALL THE PROOF THAT WE'VE GONE ABOUT THIS IN THE FAIREST AND MOST EFFICIENT WAY POSSIBLE TO OBTAIN THAT ONE PERSON ONE VOTE THEORY.
SO YOU'RE JUST NOT MAILING IT IN, BUT YOU'RE GETTING ALL THE SAME INFORMATION AS MY POINT ON THAT.
AND THAT IS TO HELP IF THERE EVER WAS A CHALLENGE TO YOUR CURRENT BOUNDARIES, I LOOKED BACK THROUGH Y'ALL'S PLAN AND UM, YOUR JPS FOLLOW THAT PLAN.
SO I'M ASSUMING Y'ALL WILL WANT YOUR JPS TO CONTINUE TO FOLLOW THE SAME BOUNDARIES AS THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT PRECINCT, BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T DO THAT, IT MAKES IT REALLY ODD.
THE NEXT TIME YOU HAVE TO REDISTRICT, BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE WORKING ON TWO MAPS, ALTHOUGH YOUR JPS ARE NOT LEGALLY REQUIRED TO HAVE THE ONE PERSON, ONE VOTE THEORY, UM, COMMISSIONER'S COURT ARE, AND ONCE YOU GET OFF TRACK, THEN IT'S HARD TO EVER GET IT BACK TO THAT SAME THING.
UM, I GUESS I DIDN'T EVER MAKE MAYBE THE LAW, THE MIKE JAKE PIECE, BECAUSE YOU CAN HAVE MORE THAN ONE JB GRAZING, RIGHT? AND YOU CAN HAVE LESS THAN FOUR IF YOU DID THE RIGHT THING.
UM, THE NIGHT, THE REASON FOR THAT, I GUESS, BUT I HAVE SOME THAT HAVE FOUR ON FOUR AND THEY JUST DON'T FOLLOW THE SAME PRECINCTS.
UM, THE, THE OTHER THING IS SOMETIMES I COME TO THESE AND THEY'RE LIKE, OKAY, WHAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION? WELL, I LEARNED 10 YEARS AGO AS THAT WAS MY FIRST REDISTRICTING CYCLE THAT WHEN I SHOWED UP WITH IDEAS, UNFORTUNATELY THE COMMISSIONER THAT JUST COMPLETED THIS GORGEOUS NEW ROAD OUT IN HIS PRECINCT HAD ACCIDENTALLY DRAWN IT INTO SOMEBODY ELSE'S PRECINCT.
AND THEY TOLD ME REALLY QUICK, THEY WEREN'T GIVING THAT ROAD UP.
CAUSE THEY JUST SPENT ALL THEIR MONEY ON THAT PARTICULAR ROAD.
ALSO, I ACCIDENTALLY DREW, UH, THE ENTIRE SUNDAY SCHOOL CLASS OUT OF FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH OUT OF ONE COMMISSIONER COURT PRECINCT INTO ANOTHER COMMISSIONER'S COURT PRECINCT.
AND THAT COMMISSIONER'S MOTHER WAS THE SUNDAY SCHOOL TEACHER FOR THAT CLASS.
AND HE WAS LOSING ALL HIS VOTERS AND HE WASN'T VERY HAPPY FOR ME DOING THAT.
SO I'M HERE AND I CAN ZOOM IN, I'LL SHOW YOU HOW THE MAP WORKS.
UM, SO THE FIRST ORDER IS ESTABLISHING THE CRITERIA.
THE SECOND ORDER IS THE ORDER TO ACTUALLY REDISTRICT.
YOU'RE REQUIRED TO DO THAT BY LAW.
IF YOU WEREN'T REQUIRED TO DO THAT, YOU WOULD BE SIGNING AN ORDER TO RETAIN YOUR EXISTING POLITICAL BOUNDARIES.
UM, SO ON HERE, I'LL SHOW YOU, OBVIOUSLY WE NEED TO COME UP WITH AND DISCUSS HOW WE'RE GONNA MAKE TWO LESS AND ONE AND THREE MORE.
THAT'S EASILY ACCOMPLISHED BY LOOKING AT THE MAP AS CLOSE AS WE NEED TO.
I CAN ZOOM ALL THE WAY IN AND IT WILL SHUT THE STREETS.
IF YOU LOOK ON YOUR SCREENS, YOU WILL SEE WHERE MY MOUSE IS RIGHT HERE.
THAT'S THE ACTUAL CENSUS BLOCK.
AND THAT CENSUS BLOCK TELLS ME THAT THERE'S 434 PEOPLE IN THAT BLOCK.
IF I BECAME CURIOUS, I COULD LOOK UP ACTUALLY WHAT THE ETHNIC BREAKDOWN IS THAT BLOCK.
AND WE COULD WORK THROUGH THOSE AND YOU COULD SEE THOSE VARIOUS BLOCKS.
UM, THE OTHER THING I HEARD THE OTHER DAY WAS OUR CENSUS COUNT IS OFF.
AND SOMEBODY WAS VERY UPSET WITH ME BECAUSE WE ZOOMED IN ON ONE OF THESE LITTLE AREAS AND LIKE, YOU SEE THAT ZERO RIGHT THERE.
THE PERSON SAID, I KNOW 50 PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THAT STREET.
I CAN DRIVE YOU OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.
AND I SAID, I'M NOT THE US CENSUS BUREAU.
AND SO WE HAVE NO STAKE IN THAT WHATSOEVER.
UM, UH, ERIC, GO DOWN, YOU SEE THE ROAD SIGN THERE SAYS 7 41,
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THE LITTLE BUBBLE.AND THEN YOU'VE GOT CENSUS TRACK.
UH, WHAT ARE THE BOUNDARIES FOR THOSE LITTLE? OKAY.
SO WHEN WE ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT CLOSER, YOU'LL SEE THE NUMBERS ACTUALLY FOLLOW WHATEVER THAT STREET IS.
AND SO ALL THE HELL DOES MILITARY TRAIL.
SO ALL THE HOUSES THAT ARE ON THE INSIDE OF THE MILITARY TRAIL, THE CENSUS BLOCK MADE THAT A THAT'S THE 96 96 AND THE 9 54 IS EVERYBODY THAT'S IN ONE OF THOSE.
AND THAT'S HOW THE US CENSUS BUREAU, UM, CALCULATED THOSE VARIOUS BLOCKS TO MAKE THE DIFFERENTIATION FOR THAT.
UM, SO LIKE RIGHT HERE, FOR EXAMPLE, THIS IS AN AREA THAT I WANTED TO TALK TO Y'ALL ABOUT.
WE KNEW THERE WAS A CLEAR AIR HERE, UM, WHERE THE ZERO IS AND WHERE THE SEVEN AND EIGHT IS.
THAT'S AN AREA THAT WE NEED TO ACTUALLY JUST FIX TODAY BECAUSE WHEN THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE, WHO DOES THE UNDERLYING DATA TO CREATE ALL YOUR VOTING DISTRICTS, UM, WHEN WE DOWNLOADED IT IN THERE, IT ACTUALLY HAD THOSE ASSIGNED PROBABLY BY AN ERROR BECAUSE THEY'RE SO SMALL TO PRECINCT FOUR.
SO I HAVE A FEELING THOSE THREE AREAS BELONG TO PRECINCT ONE, BUT BEFORE I MOVED THEM IN THERE, I WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK WITH Y'ALL AND SEE IF ANYBODY KNEW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
IT WAS IN PRECINCT ONE AND THEN LOUIS, BECAUSE I DEVELOPED IT AND THEY HAD TO, WE HAD TO DO SOME DIFFERENCE THAT CHANGED THE ROAD OUT AND THEN SCALE, PUT IT ON ISRAEL REPORT.
LAST YEAR, I WAS STILL THIS LITTLE ROAD RIGHT OUT THE ONE UP, UP, UP HERE.
THINKING ABOUT THAT ONE, THIS ONE BACK HERE.
AND THE REASON THEY'RE SEVEN AND EIGHT THERE'S THERE'S FOUR HOUSES RIGHT THERE.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THOSE SEVEN, EIGHT.
THAT'S WHERE MY PRECINCT MARTINEZ RIGHT HERE.
IT SHOULDN'T, IT SHOULDN'T BELONG TO ME.
IT'S IN THE ACTUALLY PRECINCT TO, OKAY.
SO THESE TWO, THE SEVEN AND EIGHT SHOULD GO TO TWO.
IS THAT RIGHT? AND THE ZERO TWO ALSO? YEP.
SO I'LL JUST SHOW YOU, THAT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE OF SHOWING YOU HOW THE SYSTEM WILL ACTUALLY WORK.
SO YOUR TARGET, IF YOU CAN SEE ON MY SCREEN, YOUR TARGET WILL BE PRECINCT TWO AND YOUR SOURCE IS COMING FROM PRECINCT ONE.
AND SO THEN WHEN WE CLICK ON THOSE BOXES, UH, LET ME SEE HERE.
YOU TO MAKE SOMETHING, YOU CHANGE THOSE TWO, IT MIGHT STRAIGHTEN THAT WHOLE MESS OUT, RIGHT? IT'S JUST GOING TO ADD SEVEN MORE PEOPLE TO EAT, 15 MORE PEOPLE TO HEAR.
AND ON THAT SIDE, IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT GO NEGATIVE, ROLL AWAY.
IT WOULD BE THE ONE RIGHT HERE THAT WE'RE GETTING.
I FORGOT THEY WERE, BUT THEY WEREN'T TERRIBLY INTERESTING HERE.
SO I'M GOING TO MOVE THOSE, UH, BACK INTO PRECINCT TOO.
BUT IF YOU WERE CURIOUS, LIKE WHAT THE RACIAL DEMOGRAPHICS OF THAT BLOCK WOULD BE, YOU CAN GO TO JUST PENDING CHANGES AND YOU'LL SEE THAT THAT TOTAL POPULATION WAS 15, FOUR OF THOSE WHERE IT SAYS CHANGE ARE HISPANIC, UH, 10 ARE WHITE.
AND THEN THERE'S ONE, UH, THAT I DID MY FATHER'S OTHER.
SO NOW THAT WE CORRECTED THAT ERROR, THAT'S WHAT PRECINCT TWO WOULD LOOK LIKE RIGHT THERE.
SO WHAT OF THE COUNTY SHOULD I BE LOOKING FOR TO START GIVING POPULATION TWO PRECINCT THREE AND PRECINCT ONE.
WHERE DO Y'ALL WANT TO WORK FROM
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THE IDEA OF THE WINDMILL FARMS DEAL CONCENTRATED IN NO COUNTY ROADS INVOLVED.IT'S JUST, YEAH, THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE IN THE CENSUS TO GET IT, BUT YOU CAN GO ACROSS THE STREET TO NEVIN CHIRON.
SEE UP TOP WHERE IT'S GOT 3 23 AND ALL THAT 3 58, 3 23, EVEN, YOU KNOW, IF WE NEED TO ALL THE WAY UP HERE AND ALL THE WAY DOWN THROUGH THERE, BOTH OF THEM TOUCH.
SEE BOTH OF THEM TOUCH THAT AREA.
SO WE'RE WORKING, WE'RE WORKING RIGHT THERE, RIGHT? OH, THAT'S BLOOD DISTRICTS.
AND THERE ALL MY DISTRICT ROADS, EVEN.
SO THEY'RE NOT EVEN AFFECTED AND COUNTY ROADS.
AND IN, IN, IN THE PART BETWEEN 5 48 AND THERE ALL THAT AREA THAT DOESN'T EVEN AFFECT THAT COUNTY ROAD.
UM, IF, IF, IF, IF PEOPLE ARE WANTING TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I MEAN, I'M JUST SAYING, AND, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LEAVE FOR SOMEWHERE TO COME.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE'S GOING TO COME TO.
SO YOU DON'T NEED TO SELECT HOW OVER TO 5 48, THEN WE'LL SEE WHAT THE POPULATION IS.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING? RIGHT.
AND THAT'S JUST MY EXISTING HOME.
EVERYBODY ELSE MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING ELSE, BUT I'M JUST LOOKING BECAUSE IT'S A MASS POPULATION.
I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE MUCH CHOICE WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING 14,000 PEOPLE, IT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE TO MOVE.
DO YOU VOTE COUNTY WIDE OR DO YOU VOTE AT SPECIFIC POLLING PLACES? UM, COUNTY-WIDE OKAY.
SO THEY'RE ALL CENTRAL, YOU KNOW? SO THE ONLY REASON WHY I WAS ASKING IF YOU SEE THESE BLUE DOTS ON HERE, THOSE ARE POLLING PLACES.
AND WE TRY TO BE CAREFUL IF YOU'RE NOT A COUNTY-WIDE VOTING SYSTEM, WE DON'T WANT TO MOVE YOUR POLLING PLACE OUTSIDE OF YOUR VOTING DISTRICT.
BUT YEAH, BUT THEY CAN STAY IN THAT DISTRICT BECAUSE THEY'RE COUNTY WIDE.
BUT WHY ARE ALL THE, THE, THE VOLUME BLOCKS? WHY ARE THEY ALL DIFFERENT SIZES AND JUST RANDOM? THERE'S NOTHING.
IT'S JUST RANDOM WHY THEY PICKED IT.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT THE CENSUS BUREAU BUCKET DAY.
MAYBE AGAIN, IT'S THE VOTING, THE VOTING JUST TO LIKE DIFFERENT SIZES AND JUST LIKE A, A NEIGHBORHOOD OR WHATEVER.
IT'S BECAUSE THE ELECTIONS CODE REQUIRES VERY SPECIFIC.
YOU CAN'T HAVE BACK WHEN THEY HAD ACTUAL VOTING DISTRICTS, NOT BEING CERTAIN.
IF YOU GET A CERTAIN POPULATION OVER THEN, THAT'S HOW YOU KEEP TRACK OF YOUR VOTING POPULATION IS TO THEM.
YOU CAN'T HAVE MORE THAN LIKE 5,000 AND LESS THAN A CERTAIN NUMBER.
I WOULDN'T REALLY THOUGHT THE NUMBERS WOULD BE BIGGER IN WINDMILL FARMS THAT THEY HAVE MADE AND GET IT OFF SENSITIVE.
SINCE THERE'S CLOSE TO 5,800 HOMES ON THE GROUND, OUT THERE DURING THE CENSUS.
NOW THERE'S ANOTHER, HOW MANY LET'S SAY THAT ONLY TOOK HIM UP TO WHAT? 36,009,000 EAST DALE EASTDALE.
UH, WE WENT OVER A LITTLE BIT.
BUT I MEANT I HAVE TO GIVE UP 20.
I'M GOING TO THINKING ABOUT ME.
SO PROBABLY HE'S UP, HE'S UP A COUPLE THOUSAND PEOPLE, UH, PRECINCT THREE IS NOW OVER 1,013 HUNDRED PEOPLE.
SO WE PROBABLY NEED TO TRY TO GET RID OF, OKAY.
UH, SO 29 SHE'D HAVE BLOCKED 29.
SO WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST DOING THEN IS MOVING THIS NINE 30 FOR THIS 29 AND THIS ONE AND THIS ONE, AND WE'LL LOOK AT PENDING CHANGES.
AND THAT IS A CHANGE OF POPULATION OF 8,460.
EXCUSE ME, SOME MORE OF THAT BACK.
SO YOU COULD, THAT'S FINE RIGHT THERE, BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT PRECINCT FOUR DOWN HERE, THEY'RE OVER 445.
SO WE WOULD KNOW, EVEN WITH YOU BEING OVER JUST BY 300, YOU'RE GOING TO BE LESS THAN 1%.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY GOOD.
AND THE THING FOR WHAT IS HE? 1.4% DIFFERENT
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OR SOMETHING LIKE, WHERE IS IT ON THERE? WE DON'T HAVE TO TOUCH.NO, I KNOW, BUT I MET HE'S OVER BY 1.2 10.
SO HE'S OVER REALLY CLOSE AS IDENTICALLY THE SAME.
AND THAT'S KINDA WHAT PRECINCT THREE WOULD LOOK LIKE.
AH, MAN, IF YOU'D JUST COME IN THIS OTHER BOTTOM SECTION HERE, NOW, LET ME ASK YOU THIS.
IS THIS SOMETHING WE WANT TO ACCEPT? BECAUSE ONCE I ACCEPTED AND WE MOVE ON TO OTHER CHANGES AND I CAN'T COME BACK AND DELETE THIS, I HAVE OTHER PLANS SET UP THAT WE CAN MOVE IT AROUND.
WELL, WE CAN HAVE OTHER PLANS THAT WE CAN DO THAT WITH, BUT THIS ONE WILL LOCK INTO THIS PLAN AS IF IT'S THIS.
AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO LIKE ANOTHER PROPOSAL.
NUMBER TWO, OR PROPOSAL NUMBER THREE, I HAVE PLENTY OF OPTIONS FOR US.
BUT IF THIS IS ONE YOU'RE INTERESTED IN, THEN I'LL CHECK IT AND WE'LL MOVE ON.
YES, I KNOW THIS IS TERRY'S HERE, BUT WHAT, WHAT IF WE BROUGHT ONE INTO THIS AREA OR PART OF THAT AREA AND TOOK THREE ON AND TAKEN? WAS IT DEVIN SHOWER OR 5 48 TO SALT, MUD AND SIDES.
AND YOU KNOW, THAT WAY YOU'RE STILL COMING UP.
ALL THOSE MUDS AND SUDS UP THERE.
THERE'S THIS MUDS AND SUCH DOWN BELOW THAT BELOW 80.
SO I MEAN, NO SAME DRIVER'S RANGE.
UM, I'M BUILT UP A MOTHER AND SON.
DON'T WHERE, WHERE TRAVIS, FRANCE, YOU SEE ZERO WAY OVER THERE.
ALL THOSE ARE MUDS AND ALL THOSE ARE MUDS.
AND IF WE TOOK THREE'S OVER ON THE NORTH ENDS OF PRECINCT TWO AND THEN KIND OF MAY TAKE THE SOUTH END OF THE MUDS AND SUCH WOULD THAT WORK.
I KNOW IT KIND OF BOTTLENECKS RIGHT THERE TO CROSS 80 FROM ONE TO GET IN THERE.
YEAH, BUT YOU CAN, YOU CAN GO ACROSS RIGHT IN HERE.
WHETHER THE WORDS, EVEN YOU CAN COME THAT WAY.
YEAH, THE 7 35, THE 1 31 93, THE 15, ALL THIS STUFF.
AND THEN YOU RUN, RUN INTO THE SONS.
I KNOW YOU CAN'T MOVE IT DOWN SOME YES.
TELL ME WHICH WAY TO GO THAT DIRECTION.
WHAT I'M THINKING IS IF YOU, THIS IS MUD, ALL THIS IS CITY, CITY, CITY POP PLACE, AND THEN YOU'RE IN THE DEVIL.
SO I WAS SAYING, YOU KNOW, IT BEEN COMING IN AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, CITY STEP RIGHT HERE, ANY, THIS, THIS IS OUR CITY OVER HERE TOO.
YOU DON'T SHOW THE SHADE OF LIMIT.
AND I WOULD SAY LIMIT BOUNDARIES.
I DON'T, IF THERE, I DON'T SEE THE HAMSTER WHEEL RIGHT THERE.
I MEAN, THIS IS IT'S TURNED ON WHEN HE CAUGHT IT.
AND YOU SEE RIGHT HERE WHERE BY IT'S GOING TO BE A DOTTED LINE.
BUT THAT TELLS ME THAT IT PROBABLY CROSSES SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS COURT DROWNING IT OUT, SELECT CITY LIMITS, SIGN RIGHT HERE TO SEE THIS DOTTED LINE.
WAS IT 2 12, 2 12, 2 FOLLOWS, UH, SOME OTHER LINE OVERRIDING IT IN THIS AREA.
THE WHOLE THING CAN BE, I WAS ASSUMING THAT, UH, THAT WE WOULD TRY TO HONOR THE CITY BOUNDARIES WHEN WE'RE DOING THIS SO THAT THE CITY WOULD BE IN ONE PRECINCT.
SO THIS, THIS PART DOWN HERE IS NOT IN THE CITY.
THAT ALL THIS IS IN THE COUNTY, JUST THIS LITTLE PORTION, MOVE IT, MOVE IT, DOWNLOADING THIS.
WHEN HE, WHEN HE'S GOT TO COME ACROSS IT BEATS COME ACROSS.
HE GOT HIM MOVE A LITTLE BIT OF HIM ACROSS HERE.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO STAY IN THE COUNTY AND MOVE INTO THERE.
ONE OF THE TWO, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW THAT A LITTLE BIT OF THE CITY RIGHT HERE IS GONNA ARM RIGHT HERE AT THE IT RANGE CREST.
I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT CLARITY FOR VOTERS AND ALL OF THAT.
IF THEY'RE IN DUNCAN TO MINT, THEY WOULD BE BETTER.
I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE BETTER.
SO IF YOU'LL MOVE THE MAP UP, ERIC.
AND THEN IN THE PINK AREA, THERE WERE RIGHT ABOVE TALTI THAT DOTTED LINE IS THAT THE CITY IS THAT THE CITY OF FORNEY BOUNDARY, IT SHOULD BE RIGHT IN HERE, BUT THIS IS BELOW.
THE CITY, THE ONLY THING THAT'S IN THE CITY RIGHT HERE IS, IS THE GATEWAY BOULEVARD, UH, COMING OUT OR THE WORDS SEEING GATEWAY.
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NOW, THESE HOMES RIGHT HERE, THERE'S 4 30, 4 THEY'RE IN THE CITY, TWO 12, AND NORTH IS ALL IN THE COUNTY.LET ME POSE THIS QUESTION TO EVERYBODY.
UH, D ALL AGREE THAT IT WOULD BE BETTER TO KEEP THE ACCOUNT IF IT'S, WHATEVER'S POSSIBLE TO KEEP THE CITY IN ONE PRECINCT AND THE SCHOOL AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO, I WOULD SAY, TO KEEP THEM IN THE S SO THEY'RE NOT, SO YOU'RE NOT DIVIDING THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OR NOT DIVIDING THE CITY INTO THIS GOVERNANCE.
I'M ASKING THE QUESTION, I'M ASKING YOU THE QUESTION, IS THAT WHAT EVERYBODY THINKS WE SHOULD TRY TO DO? AND THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN ASKED.
CRANDALL IS DEFINITELY INTERESTED IN HAVING THEIR CITY AND THEIR SCHOOL DISTRICT IN ONE PRECINCT, MOST CITY, MOST, I THINK MOST WELL, MOST CITIES WOULD PREFER THAT IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO RATHER THAN HAVE TO DEAL WITH TWO, YOU KNOW, IF THEY HAVE A DEVELOPMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE COMING NOW, SORTA LIKE WE RAN INTO UP THERE WITH, UH, THE LOS LOMAS THING WHERE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL SPLIT UP AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S OVERLAP, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT VERY CLEAN.
SO THAT'S MY QUESTION IS THAT, DO YOU ALL AGREE? THAT THAT MAKES SENSE.
IF WE CAN DO THAT WAY, WE CAN TRACK THE SIMPLEST WAY AND JUST WHATEVER WE CAN MAKE IT WORK.
I JUST, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I DON'T,
THEY'RE GONNA, AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WELL, WHENEVER THESE MUDS AND SUDS MAKE DEALS WITH THEM, THAT THEY ANNEX IT.
LIKE THE LAST DEVELOPMENT DEAL OVER IN THE OAK RIDGE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF TERRELL DID ALL THE PLANNING AND STUFF IN OAK RIDGE.
THEY ANNEX THEMSELVES AND OAK RIDGE.
AND THAT WAS JUST THE DEVELOPER MADE THAT DECISION.
THOSE TYPES OF THINGS ARE STILL GOING TO HAPPEN.
NOT WITH ANY OF THE BIG MUDS AND UTILITY DISTRICTS IN THERE, IT'LL BE DECADES OVER THERE.
WELL, LAST LOAN WAS, THAT WAS THEIR DEAL.
I MEAN, WHENEVER YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO, HERE'S JUST A THOUGHT.
UM, AND THAT IT Y'ALL ARE ONE OF THE, BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH OF, FOR ME, RIGHT? MOST OF MY COUNTY SEATS ARE DIVIDED FOUR WAYS.
CAUSE EVERYBODY SEEMS TO GO TO THE COURTHOUSE TO HAVE THEIR JP OFFICES AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.
SO WE TYPICALLY HAVE AT THE COUNTY SEAT, WHICH NORMALLY IN MOST OF MY EAST, TEXAS COUNTIES IS THE LARGEST TOWN IN THE COUNTY BECAUSE OF YOUR PROXIMITY TO THE METROPLEX AREA THAT'S CAUSING THIS WEIRD SHIFT.
I'M SURE IF WE WENT BACK A LONG TIME AGO, THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT THAT LOOKED LIKE WAS I CALL THEM FOUR SQUARE COUNTIES WHERE IT'S 1, 2, 3, 4, YOUR PRECINCTS.
IT HASN'T BEEN A REALLY LONG TIME AGO BECAUSE OF THE DISTANCE BETWEEN HERE AND KAUFFMAN.
I DON'T THINK IT WAS EVER ACTUALLY REAL FOR, BUT I'VE LOOKED AT SOME PRETTY OLD MAPS, BUT TO GET BACK TO THE CITY THING, I HAVE TO GIVE AWAY 14,000 PEOPLE.
AND I DON'T HAVE 14,000 PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY.
SO SOMEBODY IS GOING TO HAVE TO COME INTO THE CITY.
NO, I DON'T THINK IT'S A PROBLEM FOR SOMEBODY IN THE COUNTY TO BE IN THE CITY.
UM, I'M SAYING, COULD WE, IT SEEMS LIKE WE SHOULD TRY TO AVOID HAVING THE CITY HAVE TO DEAL WITH MORE THAN ONE PRECINCT AND SAME THING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, BECAUSE THE POPULATION OF FORNEY IS WHAT 8,025,000.
WELL, SO YOU CAN, YOU CAN HOLD THE WHOLE CITY.
WELL, SO YOU'VE GOT 25,000, LET'S SAY.
AND THEN YOU ADD, BUT YOU'RE, BUT YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT LISTENING HERE.
WE, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO GET INTO THE COUNTY.
AND IF WE WEREN'T, WE WERE GOING TO DO IT, BUT 900 PEOPLE IS ALL, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO BE IN ONE SINGLE NEIGHBORHOOD OUT THERE ON 500.
THERE'S JUST LOOKING FOR GUIDANCE.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IF WE CAN TO KEEP THE CITY INTACT AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT INTACT WHERE THEY'RE IN THE SAME PRECINCT, BUT MY SCHOOL DISTRICT IS ALL THAT THAT MAY NOT BE POSSIBLE WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHERE IT IS POSSIBLE.
I IT'S PROBABLY POSSIBLE FOR, WITH, UH, YOUR DISTRICT.
CAUSE NUMBER IN THAT BIG QUESTION IS, DO WE WANT TO TELL ERIC TO TRY TO KEEP THAT THAT'S THE PREFERENCE FOR SURE.
CRANDALL CRANDALL'S SCHOOL DISTRICT AND CITY LEADERSHIP HAVE INDICATED THEY'D LIKE TO STAY IN ONE PRECINCT, BUT PRECINCT FOUR LINES DON'T REALLY NEED TO CHANGE.
WHAT'S THAT WHERE THEY REALLY DON'T NEED TO CHANGE.
WELL, THEY MAY NOT NEED TO, BUT THAT'S STILL A DESIRE OF OUR CITY.
SO BY LEAVING YOURS, LIKE IT IS, THAT'S GOING TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.
RIGHT? UH, IT DOESN'T, I THINK THE SCHOOL DISTRICT RUNS INTO PRECINCT ONE.
NOW, NO SODAS, THE ETJ THEY'D LIKE TO HAVE THEIR ETJ, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.
I MEAN, IT'S, THERE'S NO WAY CRANDALL IS NOT GOING TO BE OVERPOPULATED ITSELF IN 10 YEARS.
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SO I MEAN, COUNTY LANDS, JUST HAVING NOTHING TO DO WITH SCHOOL DISTRICT.AND THEY HAVE REALLY NOTHING TO DO WITH CITY LIMITS.
IT'S MORE, IT'S A BIGGER DEAL WITH THE CITIES THAN IT WAS A SCHOOL DISTRICT, BUT, BUT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT'S.
WHAT YOU WANT TO BE CAREFUL FOR WITH CITIES IS I DON'T KNOW WHO IS DOING FOR NEEDS, UM, REDISTRICTING, BUT WHAT YOU WANT TO BE CAREFUL WITH IS IF YOU ARE GOING TO, IF THEY HAVE SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS, CITIES IN SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN THE COUNTY, THEY HAVE A SINGLE MEMBER.
THEY HAVE INTERNALIZED A EVERYBODY ELSE'S IS TERRIBLE.
YEAH, EVERYBODY ELSE'S, UM, UH, AT LARGE.
WELL THEN WHY YOU REALLY WANT TO BE CAREFUL WHEN IT'S A SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT IS BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO GO OVER THERE AND GRAB THIS ONE CITY BLOCK THAT HAS 10 PEOPLE IN IT.
AND THEN MOVE IT FROM EVERYBODY ELSE OVER THERE TO OVER HERE.
NOT BECAUSE THOSE VOTERS ARE GONNA NECESSARILY CARE IF THEY ARE IN PRECINCT ONE OR PRECINCT FOUR, BUT WHO'S GOING TO COME AFTER ME IS THE ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR, WHICH Y'ALL ARE NOT, UH, THAT, BUT SHE'LL BE MAD AT ME.
CAUSE THEN SHE'S GOT TO GO CREATE A VOTING DISTRICT SHE'S RIGHT BEHIND YOU OVER THERE.
SO I DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN, BUT THAT'S NOT HAPPENING BECAUSE FOR ME IS NOT A SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT THOUGHT PROCESS.
BUT IF WE WERE MESSING AROUND IN TERRELL, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I WOULD CERTAINLY WANT TO BE CAREFUL FOR IN WHAT, TO HER GUIDANCE FOR HER TO TELL US.
NO, NO, YOU'RE GOING TO CREATE THIS BRAND NEW VOTING DISTRICT IS GOING TO CREATE A PROBLEM FOR ME WHEN I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, CAUSE YOU DO THEIR ELECTIONS, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO YOU CONSIDER THE FACT THAT YOU CAN HAVE, BECAUSE WE ARE BOTH CENTERS, YOU CAN'T HAVE MORE THAN 50% VOTES THAT ARE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN.
AND OTHER WORDS IN DISTRICT FOUR OR PRECINCT COURT HAS EIGHT VOTE CENTERS.
PRECINCT THREE, CAN'T HAVE THREE.
THERE HAS TO BE THAT EQUALITY.
SO WHEN YOU'RE DIVIDING THINGS UP SO WE CAN MOVE POLLING PLACES, THEN IF YOU WANT US TO, TO, BUT THE CARBON DOMAIN, HISTORICAL VOTING LOCATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED NOT ONLY BY THE COURT, BUT WITNESS DAY IN SENTENCES, AND THOSE VOTERS ARE GOING TO FLOCK BACK TO THEIR FORMAL POLL LOCATION.
WELL, ACTUALLY, ACTUALLY THE ONE ON THE CORNER HERE IS A NEWER FLOWN IN PLACE.
AND SO AS THE ONE ON BUFFET, THEY'VE ONLY BEEN THERE TWO ELECTIONS.
I MEAN, WE'VE HAD TO MOVE THESE TWO CONSTANTLY.
SINCE I'VE BEEN AN OFFICE, THEY MOVED FOUR TIMES BECAUSE THEY KICK US OUT.
WELL, WHERE DO YOU WANT TO BE CAREFUL? THAT'S WHEN YOU'RE IN A MORE RURAL DISTRICT, RIGHT? WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
AND FOR THE REASON THAT THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN AT SUCH AND SUCH COMMUNITY CENTER BAPTIST CHURCHES FOR YEAR, WELL, THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT THE ONE UP THERE CAN STAY THERE.
AND DEVIN ARE PROBABLY, WE DON'T KNOW THAT BECAUSE HOMEOWNERS, IF THEY TAKE IT OVER TO THE SIDE, THEY DON'T WANT IT NO MORE THAN, AND THERE'S, THERE'S JUST NOT, THERE'S NOT, THERE'S NOT PLACES THERE.
YOU KNOW WHERE THE WORD WE SCRAMBLE EVERY YEAR, TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT FINALLY IS NOT FOUND.
I, I ESTABLISHED THIS ONE UP HERE.
I FOUND THIS ONE WHERE THE WORD SHE'S LUCKY, YOU KNOW, I'LL FIND THEM FOR HER.
BUT SOMEHOW, YOU KNOW, WE MANAGED TO FIND THEM AND THIS ONE DOWN, HERE'S ALSO THIS A CHURCH.
AND UM, SO I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, UM, THEY'RE STILL VOTE CENTER.
IF THEY GO ONE BLOCK MORE THAN THEY'RE ACTUALLY GIVE YOU, GIVE TERRIBLE ANOTHER BOAT CENTER.
IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE KIND OF AFTER, YOU KNOW, SAYING THAT THEY HAVE ANOTHER BOATING BOX.
CAUSE THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THE POPULATION DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED THE SAME NUMBER OF VOTING BOXES IN EACH.
THAT'S WHERE SHE'S TELLING ME, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
NO, BUT NOBODY'S GOING TO HAVE MORE THAN DOUBLE.
THEY'RE ALL GOING TO BE THAT'LL PRETTY MUCH GO PRETTY CONSISTENT.
WE MIGHT, WE MIGHT NEED TO MOVE, YOU KNOW, UH, LAND IN HERE, YOU KNOW LIKE, LIKE MAYBE HE WAS TALKING ABOUT MAYBE DROP OFF THAT 4 54 OR SOMETHING.
AND THEN LET THAT ACTUALLY GO INTO, UM, IF WE BRING PEOPLE UP IN HERE FOR PRECINCT ONE, IF THAT'S WHAT MIKE'S WON'T AND IF WE BRING PEOPLE UP IN THERE FROM PRECINCT ONE, THEN WE MIGHT WANT TO GET SOMEWHERE IN THAT PRECINCT BOX.
THAT'S WHY I WAS TRYING TO COME AROUND THIS CORNER REAL CAREFUL AND NOT TOUCH AS MUCH CITY AS I POSSIBLY CAN
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TO SEE IF THE NUMBERS WILL BE ENOUGH FOR HIM.IF NOT, WE CAN GO BACK UP FURTHER INTO THIS AND MOVE TERRY MORE OVER TO THE TOP.
WE'RE TAKING THAT 4 54 OUT THAT IS NOW YOU'RE LESS THAN 90 PEOPLE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT'S WHAT THREE NEEDED.
IF WE TAKE THAT 4 54, BUT WE CAN ADD BRING YOU UP TOP DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
I MEAN, WE DON'T NEED TO DO ANYTHING ELSE IF THIS IS HOW YOU WANT.
NOW YOU COULD BRING MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
I WAS THINKING BEFORE IT CLICKS ON IT, I MEAN, I DON'T WANT IT TO, IF IT'S PERMANENT, I DON'T WANT IT TO NOW YOU CAN FOLLOW HER, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, WARM UP THROUGH HERE IS WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING, WHERE YOU CAN COME UP THROUGH HERE AND SEE WHERE THAT 50 MARK IS.
YOU CAN LOOP THEM, VOTING MOCKS INTO HIM.
SO THAT THAT AREA ACTUALLY HAS A BOATING CENTER.
I MEAN, CAUSE YOU WANT TO KEEP THAT CENTER IN THERE, BUT YOU'RE JUST GOING TO MOVE A BOX INTO ONE.
AND THEN WHEN W W IF WE NEEDED TO, WE COULD GO ACROSS, YOU KNOW, ON ANOTHER MAP, I GUESS YOU HAVE ANOTHER ONE THAT WE COULD DO ANOTHER ACTUAL THING ON THE SAME THING, RIGHT? I MEAN, LIKE, IF YOU LIKE THIS, I'LL ACCEPT THIS.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M, THAT'S WHAT I'M.
SEE, LIKE YOU APPEAR WITH 3 23 IS IN THE 3 94.
IF, IF HE, IF YOU PICKED ALL THOSE UP AND WHEN HE COME BACK DOWN THROUGH THERE, THIS IS ALL COUNTY AND YOU HAVE A VOTING MOCK CEREMONY IN BOX AREA.
IF WE COULD PUT ONE INTO THE OTHER ONE, BUT YOU CAN'T PUT THIS ONE UP HERE IN THE THREE IN LESS THAN WE BACK THAT UP QUITE A BIT.
WHY DON'T WE BACK? MAYBE WE'LL HAVE TO BACK THAT UP QUITE A BIT AND LET THREE COME ACROSS IN THE DEVON CHART AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? YOU BRING, BRING THREE DROPOUT, KYLA, YOU DON'T NEED TO SAVE THIS.
AND THEN WE'LL GO TO A DIFFERENT MAP.
AND WE CAN JUST PRACTICE ON THAT ONE.
OH, YOU GOT A DIFFERENT ONE WITH YES.
AND THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO SAVE IT, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO LIKE, LOOK, THIS IS CALLED PROPOSAL ONE.
SO IF I CLICK THIS, IT'S GOING TO SHOW IT LOOKED LIKE THAT.
SEE WHAT I DID, RIGHT? GREEN IS YOUR OLD BOUNDARY LINE RIGHT THERE PRACTICE.
SO THEN I CAN GO OVER HERE TO PLAN MANAGER AND I WILL GO TO KAUFMAN TO, OKAY.
AND I WILL OPEN THAT ONE AND THE MAGIC OF TECHNOLOGY WE'RE RIGHT BACK TO WHERE WE WERE.
SO THIS IS, THIS IS BRAND NEW.
SO WE, SO WHO AM I GIVING? I'M GOING FROM THE THREE.
YEAH, FROM TWO TO THREE, MOVE HIM UP TO THE TOP.
THAT'S 3 23, AND THEN GET IN HERE.
THEY GET ALL THAT BOX AND ALL THESE LITTLE BOXES.
AND WE SEEING THE NUMBERS AT THE TIME.
DOES HE HAVE NOW 2002 WHERE IT SAYS CHANGE POPULATION 2,100.
AND AS I CLICK, IT SHOULD UPDATE IT.
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YOU CAN SEE THE STREET NAME AND VALLEY VIEW.NOW, DO YOU LIVE OVER THERE? YES.
WELL, REAL POPULATION OF GRAY AND AIDS.
IS THAT ALL CITY OR NO? THAT'S THE WHOLE COUNTY.
UM, YOU KNOW, BUT YOU KNOW, TROUBLING.
IT'S ALL, THESE ARE COUNTY ROAD ABOUT GOING BACK TOWARDS COCHLEA.
CAUSE YOU'VE GOT COCHLEAR RIDE ALL THE WAY UP TO 5 48 NOW.
THERE'S ONLY, IT'S EITHER 0, 0, 25 VOTES IN THERE.
THE MEETING HAVE THOSE, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT ME TO GIVE HIM THOSE? YEAH.
WELL, I DON'T WANT TO GIVE THEM A BUNCH OF ROADS AND THEN HIM MAD AT ME LATER.
THEY'RE ALL BRAND NEW TO, UM, UH, LET ME CLICK RIGHT IN HERE AND SEE WHAT WE PICK UP.
AND WE CAN COME BACK UP AND, AND 5,000 AND YOU STILL WANT TO BE AT, SO WHEN YOU DRIVE ON THE ROADS OVER THERE,
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? WHICH IS GOING TO MAKE THAT REALLY STRANGE OR THOSE VOTERS, BECAUSE SOME VOTERS WILL BE ON ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD AND THE OTHER VOTERS, YOU KNOW, CAUSE THE WAY THAT THEY'VE DONE THIS, WELL, THIS IS, THIS IS
I ASK HIM WHERE, WHERE ARE YOU? I FORGOT THAT HE DON'T PLAY.
AND IF SOMEBODY WILL GIVE ME EVERY, ALL THE JPS, ALL THE CONSTABLES HOME ADDRESSES, I CAN PUT THEM ON THE MAP WHERE THEY'RE AT.
I CAN'T DO IT RIGHT NOW, BUT YOU'LL EMAIL IT TO ME.
I'LL PUT IT ON HERE AND THEN YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE MAP.
WHERE'S DEVIN SHOWER AT SO THAT'S WHERE WE'D ALREADY GIVEN ALL A BUNCH OF THAT AWAY.
AND THEN HERE'S THE, HERE'S THE REAL PROBLEM.
WE HAD FOUR OR 5,000 PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, IN THERE.
AND WE GOT ONE PERSON HOUSE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT, WHICH IT'S OKAY.
YOU KNOW, WE CAN BAND IT AND ISOLATE IT, YOU KNOW, IN THAT LITTLE BLOCK.
BUT YOU HAVE TO FIND IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S NOT A COUNTY ROAD.
BUT THAT'S GOING TO TAKE OUT THIS LARGEST POPULATION RIGHT HERE AT 1,186.
CAUSE THAT SURROUNDS EVERYTHING.
SO, SO YOU WENT ON TO DO THAT.
THAT'S WHAT THAT WINDS UP LOOKING LIKE, BECAUSE IF I HAVE TO GO IN HERE AND GET SOME OF THESE STREETS THAT TAKES OUT A THIRD OF THE THIRD OR FOURTH OF THE POPULATION, THAT WOULD BE TO TAKE OUT ONE OF THESE, THEY'LL TAKE OUT THAT.
CAUSE I HAVE TO CONNECT THEM, CONNECT THEM.
THE FIRST VERSION TAKES TERRITORY, RIGHT? YEAH.
WHERE'S THE JP LIVE IN 40 MINUTES.
YOU STILL HAVE THAT FIRST VERSION
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SAVED.NOW THE NUMBERS ARE, IT WAS RANCHO.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE I'M GETTING YOUR STREET ADDRESS.
HE'S HERE SAYS REMEMBER I LIVE IN BETTER JAR.
WE'RE GETTING HISTORY TO DRESS.
WELL, EVEN IT ONE THING THINKING ABOUT IT.
WELL THAT FIRST ONE WE DID DIDN'T HAVE DEVIN CHARRING.
DID THEY? WHAT? FIRST ONE WE DID.
WHERE DOES IT MAKE? BUY MORE STREETS? NO, JJ BANTHAM IS WHAT HE SAID.
RIGHT? HE SAID THAT HE'S MOVING TO DEVIN CHAPEL AND HE IS MOVING TOGETHER AND CHEROKEE BOULEVARD, DEVIN SHOWER.
AND THAT'S THIS ROAD STARTING RIGHT HERE AND GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO, BUT NOBODY LIVES ON THAT.
EITHER SAYS IT'S OFF HAVING, YOU SAID HE LIVED, HE WAS MOVING TO
WELL, THIS SAYS THEY'RE 70, RATHER THAN THAT AT THE END OF IT NOW, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THIS IS DEVIN SHIRE RIGHT HERE.
SO IT SAYS THERE'S 70 RIGHT HERE.
BUT THEY MIGHT BE FACING THIS WAY WHERE THEY HAVEN'T JAR DRY WHERE THEY HAVEN'T JOB.
AND THEN I GO DOWN BELOW 90 AND THEN MOVE BACK UP ANOTHER ONE.
CAUSE I DON'T NEED AS MUCH AS YOU DO RIGHT NOW.
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THAT'S A DEVIN CHARGE DRIVE.I KNOW LOBBYING WHERE THEY'RE GOING.
THEY HAVE DEVIN CHARGES UP NORTH AND DEVIN SHARED SOUTH.
INSTEAD OF JUST KEEP IT SIMPLE.
I HAVE 48 AND THE UNIVERSITY RED LIGHT
THAT'S WHAT ME AND MACRO SAYING.
LET'S GO BACK TO ONE AND THEN LOOK AT MOVING HIM UP FROM THERE DOWN 80, YOU KNOW, JUST SEEING HIM AND GOING BACK AROUND, GOING ACROSS THERE AND YOU CAN SWITCH SEVEN.
IF THE NUMBERS ARE ABOUT TO SIGN, ALL OF THIS DOWN HERE.
SOUTH OF 5 48 IS WHERE WE WERE DEALING WITH EARLIER.
AT ONE AT ONE O'CLOCK THIS LITTLE ONE HE'S IN THERE.
BUT I STILL NEED TO COME UP WITH 3000 PEOPLE.
YOU KNOW, BUT WE WERE, WE WERE THERE ON THE OTHER ONE, RIGHT? THE TROUBLE IS, WE WERE ALMOST, BUT YOU HAVE TO GO HERE THEN YOU HAVE TO START STRAIGHT INTO THEM INTO THE CITY BECAUSE THERE'S NO PLACE ELSE TO GO.
LET'S GO BACK TO THAT PALES TRAIL IN THAT WAY.
IN THE WINDY LANE AND STUFF, STAY IN THE COUNTY.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? IF WE GO BACK TO THE FIRST ONE, LET'S GO, LET'S LEAVE THIS.
I'LL TELL, SAY WHAT HE'S SAYING AND THEN WE CAN TURN AND GO.
BUT IF YOU GO BACK TO THAT FIRST ONE, YOU CAN ADD TO THAT ONE.
AND YOU ADD PRECINCT ONE TO THE ONE YOU DID FOR PRECINCT THREE.
WE CAN GO BACK AND MAKE IT A REAL ONE THAT PEOPLE WANT TO, THEY WON'T NECESSARILY ACCEPT THAT, BUT THE MANAGING HIM CHECKING ALL OUT ONE AND THEN WE CAN GO TO ANOTHER ONE.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST OKAY THOUGH.
WHAT WE DID BEFORE IT WAS, WE CAME ACROSS WAS GOOD.
NOW WE TOOK IN ALL THIS, UM, ON THE SIDE OF 5 48, EVERYTHING RIGHT HERE.
I THINK WE LEFT OUT THIS IN THE ORDER OF THE BEGINNING.
WHEN YOU CLOSE AND YOU PUT ALL THAT FAR, WE GOT A PROBLEM.
I DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH OUT HERE.
NOT HERE, HERE, BUT IT WAS HERE.
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OKAY.WAS THAT THE CHAIR CREAKING OR SOMEBODY NEEDS TO STRAIGHTEN OUT? YES.
I THOUGHT ABOUT YOU JUST LAY DOWN PLAN.
I GOT IT 15 YEARS AGO, SOMEWHERE.
I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHERE I GO.
I GOT GET THIS LITTLE SHORT ONE.
I'M GOING TO START WEARING TIES AND I'LL GIVE IT TO YOU IF YOU'D LIKE IT.
RIGHT THERE FOR A YEAR WAS STOPPED DOWN MY WIFE'S AT THE DOOR.
BUT HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO, FIGURING OUT WHERE TO GO FROM HERE TO TAKE PEOPLE IN FOR ONE ZOOM OUT ON THAT.
SO LET ME ACCEPT THIS AND THEN WE'LL GO MOVE TO ONE.
THIS IS, THIS RIGHT HERE IS, IS COUNTY THAT'S COUNTY.
THIS IS, I DON'T KNOW WHY THERE 78 RIGHT THERE.
THAT'S ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE STREET.
IT'S THIS BLOCK ON WINDMILL FARMS WITH APARTMENTS.
THIS IS ACTUALLY IN THE CITY HERE, BUT IT'S ACROSS THE STREET.
YOU SEE? I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT BLOCK.
I DON'T KNOW WHY I'D BE ONE OF THE, THIS IS BLOCK HAS TO BE IN.
WHAT NUMBER WE'RE LOOKING FOR FOR ONE? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NAME IS.
DOESN'T STRETCH TO 12 YEARS TO HAVE SOME HOUSES ON IT.
OH, I'M SURE THERE'S A TON OF MISTAKES IN THERE.
TOLD THEM APARTMENTS OVER THERE.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT I WAS GOOD UP THIS WAY.
THAT'S IN THE COUNTY LAST NIGHT.
THEN I'LL JUST MENTION THESE NUMBERS.
BUT LIKE THAT, THAT'S THE NUMBER WE GOT TO WORK WITH.
WHATEVER THEY SAY I NEED IS JUST WHAT IT IS.
YEAH, YOU HAVE TO GET ALL THOSE ARE NOW 31.
IT'S ALL THIS, THIS THAT'S ACTUALLY THE CITY.
WHAT YOU'VE GOT FORMED RIGHT HERE IS ACTUALLY CITY LIMIT.
THEY BOUNDARY THIS ROAD LIKE THAT.
IT'S LIKE THIS, ALL THESE HAVE
I MEAN WHAT I'M TRYING TO HELP.
HE DIDN'T SAY I'M TRYING TO STAY OUT OF THE CITY AS MUCH AS I CAN DO IT.
AND IF WE HAVE TO GET THERE, I THINK YOU GET THERE WITH THAT GOAL.
NONE OF THE SHITTY, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE.
I GOT TO GET RID OF THIS SEVEN RIGHT HERE.
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I GOT TO GO BACK AND DO IT.I THINK REMEMBER THOSE ARE IN FOUR.
THEY'RE ACTUALLY ONE OF THE MAP SHOWING THEM APPRECIATE.
Y'ALL PUT THEM IN TUNE WHILE I GO OVER THERE.
THIS STRAIGHT HERE FROM ONE MINISTRY.
ONE, TWO, WE DIVIDED DISTRICT.
DID I DO THESE RIGHT HERE? YES.
AND I DID ALL OF THESE AND THEN I CAME OVER HERE.
AND THAT'S ALL, ALL THIS GAVE ME MY OWN.
NOW GO BACK ONE MORE THAT I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY PEOPLE MARKED UP THERE.
THAT'S ON THE CITY THAT RIGHT? NO, THIS ISN'T NO, UH, THAT'D BE FIXING TO ME, BUT IT'S NOT AS GOOD THIS WAY.
THEY DON'T TELL THEM FORNEY AND TRAM STRANGE CLEMENTS.
I'LL WAIT THAT AND THIS IS UH, UH, IT'S GOOD.
THIS IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO THINK.
I THINK THAT'S, UH, SHANE POPPER AND ALL THAT.
IS THAT IN THE CITY? WHAT'S RIGHT.
LITTLE GOLD DRIVE AND AIR HERON COURT.
I THINK, I THINK THAT'S UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? I THINK IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT.
AND I'LL SAY YEAH, THEY'RE IN THE SCENE.
SO IT'S NOT IN THE CITY, RIGHT? IT IS IN THE CITY.
WHAT? WHICH ONE WAS GETTING CITY WATER THAT WAS GRAY OFF.
SO THEY WERE NOT, THEY WERE GETTING CELTIC WATER AND THEY WERE PAYING MORE FOR IT.
AND THEY WERE IN THE CITY BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE MAD ABOUT.
THE PEOPLE IN THE CITY WERE PAYING A LOWER PRICE AND THEY WERE, YEAH, THEY'RE IN THE CITY AND TRACKED.
SO WE'RE GOING TO, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TELL
THAT'S PROBABLY CITY PROBABLY.
YOU GOT CITY COMPLETELY SURROUNDED ABOUT MOSQUITOES.
WHAT ABOUT MOSQUITOES? MOSQUITOES DOWN THERE IN THE GREEN.
I MEAN, YOU CAN GO INTO THE MOSQUITOES.
OH, THAT'S FROM WHERE THOUGH? YOU'VE BEEN TAKEN AWAY FROM IT.
DON'T YOU COME ACROSS 21 4? NO
WELL THAT IS SO I'M GOING TO CHECK THIS, LIKE WE'RE GOING TO SAVE IT CAUSE OTHERWISE I'D LOSE IT.
THAT'S 34,000, BUT WE'RE STILL 2000 PEOPLE'S YARD WITH THAT NINE.
THAT NUMBER NINE THAT'S THAT'S JUST CONTINUATION OF THE PARCEL OF 20, WHICH IS JUST SOUTH OF IT.
SO THAT ONLY PROBABLY SHOULD STAY TOGETHER.
SPRADLEY FARMS OWNS BOTH SIDES OF THEIR OWN,
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THE SOUTH SIDE.THIS IS ALL THEY DO ON THEIR OWN.
THAT THEY OWN THAT DIAMOND RIGHT THERE ON A LITTLE SIDE COMMERCIAL RIGHT HERE WHERE I JUST GET IT.
THAT SHOULD STAY AS IS OR THIS.
THEY'RE GOING TO COME IN THE PONY TOMORROW.
I KNOW NO ONE THERE IN 80 DAYS.
I MEAN ALL THAT'S THERE IN THE CITY.
THEY'RE IN THE CITY THEY ANNEX OR THEY'RE GOING THROUGH, I GUESS THEY DID.
MS. DO YOU CLEAN THAT UP? YOU GOT THAT RIGHT, MAN.
I MEAN, YOU GET IN THERE AND YOU'RE GOT TO GO SINCE THIS HAS GOTTA BE WRONG.
SO JUST SO YOU KNOW, HE'S 2,300.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF YOU CAN GET IT OUT OF THAT WHOLE SECTION AND THAT'S ALL AVAILABLE.
WELL, THERE'S 672 RIGHT THERE, BUT I MEAN, I KNOW THAT'S NOW WE'RE CROSSING OVER INTO THE CITY BOUNDARIES, WHICH ARE, WE'RE TRYING NOT TO DATE THESE OR ANY PLACE ELSE YOU GO, OKAY, WELL YOU GOT THE 4 34, 3 33.
THAT'S ALL CITY, BUT THERE'S NO OTHER, IT'S GOING TO BE POSSIBLE.
40 AREA, THE SUBDIVISION AND THE POPULATION GROWTH IN THOSE AREAS AS WELL AS THERE'S A WAY TO AVOID WHAT I SAID A WHILE AGO.
YOU'RE STILL TRYING TO ADD THE ONE, RIGHT? LET ME ASK YOU THIS.
SO LET'S GO DOWN TO THE OTHER END.
MY PRECINCT GOES ALL THE WAY TO KINGS CREEK BRIDGE THERE AT KINGS CREEK.
WHAT IF I TAKE IN THAT DEVELOPMENT THERE THAT ADJOINS OAK RIDGE ALL THE WAY AROUND TO WILSON, THAT'S GOING TO KNOCK YOUR POPULATION DOWN SOME, BUT THAT PUT THEM A LITTLE BIT OVER.
DIDN'T IT? WHEN WE DID THE NUMBERS? YES.
JUST A LITTLE BIT, BUT I MEAN, WE COULD STILL GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER NORTH ON MINE.
WE NEED TO DO SO WE CAN GO NORTH ON YEARS AND TIME, MAYBE TAKING KING STREET TO GET THE 2008.
YOU DON'T THROW THEM 34 34, 9 20.
IT'S IN BETWEEN OAK RIDGE AND THEN TERRORIST.
I MEAN IT'S KINGS CREEK IS NOT IN THE CITY LIMITS, RIGHT? NO.
YES, IT IS THE STREETS IN THE CITY.
DID YOU SEND THE TJ THERE? NO, I SHOULDN'T THE CITY BECAUSE THAT PARK, THERE IS A CITY PARK, TERRIBLE TO GIVE UP AND EDWARDS LIVE THERE.
UM, BECAUSE AT THAT POINT, I MEAN, CAUSE I DON'T KNOW THE SIDE OF THE COLLEGE WHERE I JOINED BACK UP THAT 20 AND IT'S ALL MINE, ALL THE WAY THAT COLLEGE CITY, OTHER COLLEGES AND ZOOM IN AND SEE HOW I KNOW THE TRUCK STARTS.
WE GOT HIM MARK STEEL OR THERE'S NOTHING THERE.
SO IF WE COME INTO THE CITY, WE DIDN'T HAVE TO COME IN RIGHT HERE.
YOU KNOW, GETTING AWAY PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE A BETTER METRIC.
I THINK IF WE CAPTURED ALL THAT AREA RIGHT THERE THAT'S THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE BETTER.
I MEAN, THIS IS WORSE THAN BUDGET BUDGETS, BUDGET.
UH, THIS AREA RIGHT HERE JUST TO EVEN IT OUT.
AND THEN IT'D BE, IT'S GOING TO GET YOU WHERE YOU NEED TO GO AND SAY, WELL ALREADY THERE HE'S WAY OVER NOW HE CAN'T DO THAT AGAIN.
BUT THIS IS 40 CITY LIMITS RIGHT HERE.
BUT SO I DON'T THINK YOU'D EVEN BE ABLE TO DO WITH THAT.
WHAT ABOUT IF WE WENT TO TERRELL CEDAR LIMITS ON THE KINGS CREEK? IS IT SMALLER THAN THIS AREA? POPULATION WISE? YES.
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IT'S MOSTLY UNDEVELOPED STREETS.PROBABLY NOT MORE THAN ABOUT 500.
NOW THOSE ARE HOMETOWN BOATERS, RIGHT? SAM, WHAT ABOUT THAT? 9 34.
THAT'S JUST NORTH OF 80 THERE.
I MEAN ALL OF THAT IS UNDEVELOPED.
YOU JUST GO STRAIGHT ACROSS THERE AND TAKE THAT IN.
THAT DID GET JUST ABOUT RIGHT? YEAH.
36 TO 79 OVER THIS ONE IN HERE.
SO THAT, WELL THAT 36 TO 70 NOW.
SEE, WE'RE ONLY DEVIATION OF 58.
PEOPLE WERE PERFECT RIGHT THERE.
SEE WHERE IT SAYS 58 TO ME NUMBER.
NO, THE SAD THING IS NO MATTER WHAT WE DO IN A FEW YEARS, IT'S GONE AGAIN TO BE EVERY 10 HERE IN THERE TO GET AWAY.
I MEAN, THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT'S GOING TO BE THE PLACE IT'S GOING TO KEEP COMING FROM HERE UNTIL IT EXPANDS SOMEWHERE ELSE.
WHAT DID WE CRANDALL? PROBABLY RIGHT.
SO IF YOU, IF YOU'RE JUST LOOKING AT THINGS, SEE PRECINCT ONE IS NEGATIVE.
I MEAN PRECINCT THREE IS NOW NEGATIVE 0.3, ONE PRECINCT.
SO WHEN WE MAKE THAT CHANGE, THAT'D BE A PLUS PLATFORM.
NO, YOU'LL BE NOW DOWN TO NOTHING WHEN I YOU'LL BE THE OPPOSITE.
SO IF I GO LIKE THIS, THERE YOU GO.
SO NOW YOUR DEVIATION IS TWO IS 0.7, TWO AND FOUR IS 1.18.
SO YOU'RE AT EXACTLY 2%, RIGHT? OR 1.9, 1.9% DEVIATION.
BUT IF I MAY ASK HIM, THAT'S A WRAP.
WHEN WE CAN MAKE IT ALMOST EVEN PROBABLY SPRIGHTLY FOR THEY.
UH, WHAT DIFFERENCE WOULD IT MAKE? WHETHER IT'S IN THE COUNTY PRECINCT OR NOT? I MEAN, IF IT'S IN THE CITY, THEY'RE GOING TO VOTE WITH THE CITY AND THEN WHERE THERE'S NO PROPERTY, WHETHER THEY'RE IN THE CITY MUSKY, BUT THERE'S NO POPULATION IN THERE, BUT I MET NO, NO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GAIN ANYTHING BY ADDING THEM OR NO, I JUST SAID IT, A MASS THAT WE NEED TO GET CLOSER, BUT THERE'S NOBODY LIVES THERE.
WELL, IT HAD A HUNDRED OR SOMETHING PEOPLE ON THE NORTH SIDE.
NO, THERE'S NOTHING BUILT IN THAT.
BRADLEY THAT'S IN SOMETHING ELSE.
SO IT WOULDN'T MATTER ABOUT THAT.
HOW IS THIS? CHANGE? ALL THAT WITH THE POPULATES, THE VOTING BLOCKS DOES ALL THAT DATA CHANGE TO DID ALL THAT DAY TO CHANGE TO WHILE YOU WHEN YOU'RE OKAY.
SO AT THE TOP NOW IT SHOWS YOU RIGHT NOW AT THE TOP, IT'LL SHOW YOU WHEN WE GO OVER TO PRECINCT, UH, THE DEVIATION IS 58 TO 60.
LET ME MOVE THIS DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT.
SO YOU CAN SEE EVERYTHING HERE'S PRECINCT ONE.
SO NOW THEY'RE, THEIR TOTAL POPULATION WOULD BE 3000, EXCUSE ME.
MEANING YOU'RE 58 UNDER 36 0 6, 8 TO 60 36 TO ONE, TWO AND 36, 7 5 7.
CAUSE WE DIDN'T TOUCH FOUR EXCEPT I DID TOUCH FOR, TO CORRECT THOSE 15 PEOPLE THAT I SHOWED YOU EARLIER.
UM, AND THEN THIS SHOWS YOU WHAT THE NON-HISPANIC ANGLO POPULATION IS FOR EACH PRECINCT.
57%, 51% PRECINCT THREE IS 44.7, 1% PRECINCT FOUR TO 63.
AND THEN SAME THING WITH YOUR AFRICAN-AMERICAN YOUR NBN.
THIS IS YOUR SPANISH POPULATION RIGHT HERE.
I JUST WANT TO THROW OUT ONE THING.
I HAVEN'T REALLY TALKED TO THESE GUYS ABOUT IT, BUT UH, WE HAVE THIS ISSUE WHERE WE'RE BUILDING THIS MULTIMILLION DOLLAR JUSTICE CENTER, WHICH IS LOCATED NEXT TO OUR SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND THE WAY THE PRECINCT LINES ARE NOW,
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IT EXCLUDES PRECINCT FOUR FROM BEING ABLE TO HOUSE OUR CONSTABLE AND OUR JP IN THAT JUSTICE CENTER.IS THERE ANY WAY THAT FOUR CAN SOMEHOW GET ADJUSTED TO BE ABLE TO TOUCH THAT NEW BUILDING? SHOW ME WHERE IT'S AT ON THE MAP AND THEN YOU'LL SEE WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE.
YEAH, I GOT, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THAT'S VIABLE, BUT IF YOU COULD RUN UP, THERE'S A ROAD DEER, RIGHT.
IF YOU COULD RUN UP THAT ROAD WITH NOT A LOT OF POPULATION, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
EVEN IF WE DON'T MAKE THAT, THAT AFFIRMATIVE MOVE RIGHT NOW, LIKE YOU'D BE ABLE IN THE FUTURE TO BE ABLE TO, I MEAN, THAT WAS THE WHOLE POINT OF YEAH.
OF SPENDING THOSE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON THAT BUILDING.
THEN THE POINT THAT THE CENSUS BLOCKS, JUST SO YOU SEE THEM HERE IS YOU'VE GOT TO SOMEHOW COME ACROSS HERE TOO, BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE THEY POINTED OUT THAT IT IS WHERE I'M CIRCLING RIGHT THERE.
UH, IT'S A LITTLE SOUTH OF THERE.
I THINK IT'S DOWN HERE MORE SEE WHERE THE ZERO IS RIGHT HERE.
SO YOU'VE GOT TO CROSS THIS THREE, THIS 438.
AND ALL THESE PEOPLE WERE OUT HERE AND THEN THIS 59 TO CONNECT YOU.
WELL, WHAT IF YOU GO SOUTH? WHAT, WHAT, WHAT COULD WE DO TO GO INSTEAD OF GOING? CAUSE THERE'S A LOT LESS PEOPLE THE FURTHER SOUTH YOU GO OVER HERE.
IF WE'RE CONNECTING FOUR TO ONE THAT WOULD BE OVER HERE, PETER ZONE, PLEASE JUDGE THAT.
CAUSE THAT'S A BIG BOX FOR BOTH OF US.
THIS OAK GROVE AREA INCORPORATED AREA TOO.
SO WE'LL USE IT IN ORDER TO DO WHAT COMMISSIONER CATES IS PROPOSING.
WE'VE GOT TO SOMEHOW GET FROM HERE OVER TO HERE.
JUST RIGHT DOWN HERE, COMING UP.
A LOT OF PEOPLE, 1 75 DOWN HERE IS WHERE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, RIGHT? YEAH.
I'M JUST SAYING, WHAT ABOUT, WHAT ABOUT COMING UP ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF 1 75 AT 88 AND 53.
SO YOU ALREADY SAVED THE OTHER VERSION RIGHT? THEN WORKS OUT WITH ALL THE NUMBERS.
THE OTHER SIDE OF THE OTHER SIDE, NOT THAT SIDE, WHO ELSE IS HOUSED IN THIS BUILDING? WHAT OTHER JPS WOULD BE? THE IDEA IS, WELL, WE ORIGINALLY WERE GOING TO DO IS WE WERE GOING TO PUT JP FOUR, WHICH IS NOW IN CAMP.
WE WERE GOING TO PUT JP FOUR AND JP ONE, BOTH IN THAT BUILDING IN THE JUSTICE CENTER, IN THE JUSTICE WHERE ALL THE DISTRICT COURTS ARE THE, BUT WE, UH, WHAT WE, WE, WE GOT SHOT DOWN ON THAT BECAUSE WE FOUND OUT THAT PRECINCT, BUT THE JP HAS GOT TO BE IN THIS PRECINCT.
AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE WE WERE LOOKING AT THESE OTHER COUNTIES THAT THEY THEY'D COME IN AND TOUCH THE COURTHOUSE, BUT YOU'D HAVE TO TOUCH THE COURTHOUSE.
THEY HAVE TO BE IN, IT HAD TO SPLIT TWO VOTING BOXES, RIGHT?
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UH, WELL THE COURTHOUSE IS COUNTY PROPERTY ALL THE WAY THROUGH.SO IF YOU HAVE A, YOU CAN FOLLOW A MAJOR ROADWAY TO GET DOWN THERE TO A COURTHOUSE, BUT IT GETS VERY CONVOLUTED.
WHEN YOU START GROWING THE THING YOU'RE TRYING, THEN YOU'RE DRAWING SOMEBODY'S BELT BACK OUT.
THIS IS A CHANGE OF 272 PEOPLE.
ARE WE THERE YET? OR DO WE HAVE TO GO HIGHER? I THINK YOU HAVE TO GO.
YOU HAVE TO TAKE IN THAT THREE AND THE ZERO.
CAN YOU ZOOM IN? AND WE CAN SEE IT BETTER? UH, YEAH, I THINK YOU'RE THERE.
I THINK YOU'RE THERE NOW AND GET GOING AND GET THAT ZERO LEARNING.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE IN THE ONE TO THE LEFT.
I, I THINK YOU HAVE TO THINK IN THE 46 WITH THE ZIMMER, YOU CAN DO THAT RIGHT THERE ON THAT ROAD BECAUSE OF THE WAY LIVING ON IT KINDA MESSES UP YOUR CITY LIMITS THING.
BUT, WELL, THIS IS CITY LIMITS.
IS IT INSIDE CITY LIMITS? YES.
BECAUSE SEE, HERE'S THE DOTTED LINE RIGHT HERE.
SO WE'RE HOW MUCH OVER ARE WE IF WE DO THAT THREE 17.
WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S WITHIN THE ALLOWABLE, RIGHT? YEAH.
IT'S JUST, UH, IT JUST GIVES US AT LEAST THE CAPABILITY TO BE ABLE TO HOUSE THE JP, BOTH IN A MODERN FACILITY, AS WELL AS TRUTHFULLY BE MORE CENTRALLY LOCATED BETWEEN CRANDALL AND THE SOUTH PART OF THE COUNTY.
AND OTHERWISE, REALLY, WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN.
WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN B FOR THOSE, FOR THAT 3 36.
CAUSE THERE WAS A LITTLE 19 BUCKS RIGHT DOWN HERE.
WHENEVER THE DYNAMICS CHANGE AGAIN, YOU CAN CHANGE ALL THESE NUMBERS AGAIN, BUT WE BUILT A COURTHOUSE.
WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO BUILD A COURTHOUSE? YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I'M THINKING AND I'M THINKING IN 10 YEARS WE'LL BE BUILDING SOMETHING ELSE.
I HAVEN'T GOT SAYING, HE'S SAYING IF WE DIDN'T BUILD A COURTHOUSE, LIKE IN CAMP IS RIGHT HERE.
WELL, YOU DON'T WANT TO BUILD IT IN CAMP BECAUSE THE PRECINCT IS NOT CENTRAL TO THE PRECINCT.
WELL, BUT FOREIGN HAS ALWAYS GONE FOR, IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE IN THERE AT ONE CORNER.
THEY'RE ALWAYS GOING TO BE IN THE CAMP NO MATTER WHAT BRAND YOU'RE CUTTING.
NO IT'S GOING TO GO ALL THE WAY DOWN SOUTH.
THEY HAVE TO COME, COME UP THERE.
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS HELP THE PEOPLE IN CRANDALL.
IT'S ONLY 11 MILES FROM KEMP UP TO THERE.
I MEAN, CAMP IS NOT THE, NOT THE, NOT THE IDEAL LOCATION FOR THE FACILITY.
I MEAN, THAT JUST MAKES MORE CONVENIENT TO THE, TO THE PRESETS LARGEST GROWTH CENTER.
I MEAN THEN, THEN I'LL TAKE IT.
HOW MANY, HOW MANY PEOPLE DID THAT? END? 300, 400, 800 BACK THE TOP AND TAKE SOME AWAY FROM YOU.
DON'T HAVE TO TAKE, I MEAN, THAT'S WITHIN THE LIMITS.
SO Y'ALL WANT ME TO ACCEPT IT AND SEE, YEAH.
YOU DEFINITELY SOUND THAT BRAND.
YOU'RE THAT YOU GOT IT ALL FIGURED OUT WHAT YOU'RE GONNA JUST HIRE YOU TO DO IT.
WELL, I MEAN IT'S AN HOUR AND ALL THE WATER.
I MEAN, I WALKED IT UP THE ROAD FOR HIM NOW.
I'M SURE YOU'RE AT THREE, A DOLLAR AN HOUR IN ALL THE WATER.
IF WE MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THIS, THAT'S CRAZY LOOKING MAP AND BLOW IT OUT AND LET'S LOOK AT, OH, YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE THAT LITTLE GREEN SPOT, HARDLY TRAVEL AS YOU CAN'T SEE ANYTHING YET.
WHEN YOU GOT THAT MADISON OR YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE MY PRECINCT NOW.
SO WE GOT TO, WE'VE GOT A VERSION ONE AND THIS IS A VERSION TWO, RIGHT? THIS IS THE FINAL VERSION.
UM, VERSION ONE, WE NEED TO GO BACK AND MAKE CHANGES TO IT.
CAUSE ALL WE DID IN VERSION ONE, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, THIS IS COSTMAN PROPOSAL THREE.
SO IF I GO OVER HERE TO, I MEAN, MUM CHOICE, NO CHOICE.
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AND THEN TO GO INTO THE SHOW, HOW MUCH? YEAH, HOW MUCH DO WE GET INTO THE CITY? YOU DON'T HAVE TOO MUCH.SO THEY WENT NOW HOW MANY, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE JUST SOME NEW ROADS ANYWAY, YOU CAN GO THAT ROUTE.
SOME ROADS, THE ROADS WERE ALL DONE.
I MEAN, SO IF WE GO BACK TO THAT FIRST PROPOSAL, ALL WE HAD MADE WAS THAT ONE CHANGE AND THREE FROM TWO TO THREE, I THOUGHT IT WAS PROPOSAL WAS WHILE WE ADD WITH ONE IN THREE CHANGES.
AND THEN WHEN YOU KEEP THE CHANGES AND MAKE THE CHANGES FOR THE COME, IS THAT LIKE THAT ONE THAT IS A VERSION OF, UM, PER PLAN THREE.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? YEAH.
LIKE THE FINAL PLAN WE JUST DID WITH THE LITTLE GERRYMANDERING TO GET TO THE COURTHOUSE AND THE OTHER ONE AND THEN THE OTHER ONE.
SO WE WILL IN ABOVE MY PAY GRADE HERE, BUT OKAY.
SO WHAT I CAN DO IS GO TO PLAN THREE, WHICH IS THE ONE WE JUST WORKED ON.
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHERE MARY LANDS, WHERE MANLY, SHE DOESN'T LIVE IN THAT GREEN AREA RIGHT NOW.
I MEAN, WHEN AM I GONNA MAKE IT ON THE ROADS? KNOW WE GOT TO GO THROUGH A WHOLE PROCESS TO GET THERE.
I THINK THAT I'M IN SO I CAN FINISH THE WRONG LITTLE BIT AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THEM.
THE ONES THAT I'VE GOT BEING DONE.
YOU FIX ALL THE ROADS YOU WANT TO OVER THAT NEW SECTION I'M TAKING DOWN.
THIS IS THE ONE THAT YOU ASKED EARLIER ABOUT WHICH I'VE LABELED PRO KAUFMAN PROPOSAL THREE EIGHT.
CAUSE THE TWO WE JUST PLAYED AROUND WITH AND ONE IS WHERE WE JUST DID THAT FIRST PORTION AT THE VERY BEGINNING.
AND THEN PROPOSAL THREE IS THE ONE THAT INCLUDES GOING TO THE NEW JUSTICE CENTER THAT, AND I CAN HAVE THESE, YOU KNOW, EMAILED BACK OUT TO YOU WHEN I TAKE THIS BACK TO THE OFFICE, OUR GIS PERSON WILL.
UM, AND SO I'LL, I'LL CHANGE THE NAMES AND COLUMN PROPOSAL ONE AND PROPOSAL ONE A AND I'LL HAVE IT WHERE YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE, I WILL ZOOM IN ON THAT AREA.
AND THEN PROPOSAL THREE, LIKE I SAID, IS HERE AND SEE WHAT ROADS AND STUFF, YOU KNOW, WHEN KIND OF SEE WHAT ROADS IS THAT YOU KNOW, THAT ARE IN THERE.
YOU KNOW, I KNOW GOING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 1 75 IS I'M LOSING PEOPLE TOO.
SO WE'LL JUST SAY, AND THEN ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO GIVE ME ANY OTHER, I HAVE THE CONSTABLES
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ADDRESSES, BUT IF SOMEBODY WILL EMAIL ME THE JPS ADDRESSES, BUT ALL OF YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT DRAWN OUT.SO I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE TO PUT THAT IN THIS LAYER.
SO YOU DON'T WANT ME TO SHOULDN'T ME BLOW UP TO N BY ITSELF.
MAKE SURE EVERYTHING GOOD ON, I DON'T MEAN TO BLOW IT UP MORE.
NO, THAT OVERSIGHT CAN SEE A PRECINCT THREE AGAIN, PLEASE.
YOU CAN JUST SCOOT IT OVER, UH, TO THE LEFT THERE.
SO WANT TO SAY HOW FAR SOUTH I'M GOING OVER THE INTERSTATE THERE.
PICK UP ANY MORE GOING SOUTH THERE.
WE JUST WENT, YOU JUST WENT THIS GREEN LINE RIGHT HERE.
THAT IS YOUR EXISTING PRECINCT BOUNDARY.
SO IF YOU FOLLOW THAT GREEN LINE UP RIGHT THERE.
THAT WAS YOUR BOUNDARY ALL THE WAY UP TO THERE.
AND THEN IT JUST TURNED AND WENT UP 48 BY 48 BACK TO THE COUNTY LINE.
SO ALL YOU PICKED UP IN THAT AREA IS THIS ALL RIGHT? THAT'S IT.
HOW MANY MORE DEPUTIES YOU GOT AN NEED THERE? AND THEN ON MINE, I SAID, YOU KNOW THE TERRITORY OVER THERE.
I DIDN'T PICK UP ANY COUNTY ROADS AND THE OTHER.
WHERE, AND THEN MOVING THE ONE AGAIN.
NO, I DON'T THINK ONE WAY YOU PICKED UP SOME PICKED UP, UH, ALL THOSE TAKE THEM DOWN.
WHEN THE LANE OF THE COUNTY BORN TO DID NOT.
WHEN THE, WHEN THE LANE PICKED UP LANE, THE LANE AND ALL THOSE STREETS, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THEIR OWN, YOU KNOW, CONCRETE, ALL CONCRETE, FIXED ALL THE ENTRANCE, ALL THAT THOUGH.
I'VE GOT A FEW PLACES TO PIGS OFF.
THEN I MIGHT THEN CARRY IT THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR.
I'LL GET THEM HOME WHENEVER I CAN.
BUT THE ONLY THING I'M DOING NEXT YEAR.
ALL I NEED YOU TO DO IS I NEED A MOTION TO ADOPT THE, UH, ESTABLISHING THE CRITERIA AND THEN I'LL NEED A SEPARATE MOTION TO ADOPT ORDER FOR REDISTRICTING CREATING YOUR POLITICAL BOUNDARIES RIGHT HERE.
AND THEN WHEN DID WE GET THE VERSIONS? SO THEN WE WILL, I'LL SEND THE, I'LL GET MY GIS PERSON.
SO WHAT SHE ACTUALLY DOES IS THERE'S A BACKUP BEHIND HERE.
THAT'S NOT, IT'S TOO SOPHISTICATED FOR THE LAPTOP.
AND SO SHE RUNS A SCAM AND THEY WILL TRY TO PICK UP IF THERE'S ANY LITTLE.
I MEAN, I CAN ZOOM IN AS CLOSE AS I CAN GET.
AND I THINK THAT I CAPTURE EVERYTHING, BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT'S JUST SO TINY THAT I CAN'T SEE IT, WE'LL TRY TO MOVE IT BACK INTO THE RIGHT PLACE OF WHAT IT'S ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
ESPECIALLY IF WE HAVE CREATED A LITTLE ISLAND OUT THERE SOMEWHERE, IT'LL RUN THAT AS A CHECK AND THEN SHE WILL PUT ALL THIS INTO, I THINK THAT'S A 36 BY 48 PROGRAM WHERE IT COMES TO YOU AND IT LOOKS LIKE AN ADOBE PRINTOUT, BUT THEN WHEN YOU OPEN IT, YOU CAN ZOOM IN AND IT TRIES TO HAVE ALL THESE LAYERS TO SHOW YOU THE STREETS AS WELL.
AND SO I CAN SEND YOU THOSE TWO PROPOSALS.
AND THEN IF I HEAR BACK FROM THE JUDGE OR, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CALL ME OR SOMETHING AND SAYS, NOBODY FROM THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, HAVING ANYTHING TO SAY, AND WE WANT TO GO WITH PLAN THREE, A OR THREE, WHICHEVER ONE Y'ALL WANT TO GO WITH, THEN YOU WILL SET A PUBLIC HEARING.
AND FOLLOWING THAT PUBLIC HEARING ON THE SAME DAY, ASSUMING NOTHING GOES WRONG, THEN, UM, YOU CAN JUST ADOPT YOUR PLAN THAT SAME DAY, SAME DAY, JUST FOLLOW THE PUBLIC HEARING.
NOW THE ONLY HICCUP IS THE SENATE AND THE HOUSE VOTED YESTERDAY AND APPROVED THE STATE HOUSE CONGRESSIONAL AND US CONGRESSIONAL BOUNDARIES.
SO, UM, IT'S NOT GOING TO MATTER FOR Y'ALL BECAUSE Y'ALL, DON'T HAVE VOTING DISTRICTS THAT WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IF YOU'RE ALL VOTING AT ONE LOCATION, BUT I HAVE SOME COUNTIES THAT ARE GOING TO GET SPLIT THAT I'VE NOW GOT TO GO BACK AND RECREATE ALL THOSE MOVING DISTRICTS FOR YEAH, OUR SENATE AND US DIDN'T
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CHECK.SO I PLANNED FOR THIS SEVERAL YEARS AGO, WHEN WE STARTED THE BOATING CENTER, THE ONLY PROBLEM IS IF THE COURT OVERRIDES IT AND DRAWS THEIR OWN MAP, THEN WE'VE GOT TO ACCOUNT FOR THOSE BOUNDARIES AND JUST SHOW THEM ON HERE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ERIC? OKAY.
THEN, UH, I WOULD, UH, ASK FOR EMOTION, UM, EMOTION, APPROVING AN ORDER, ESTABLISHING CRITERIA FOR REDISTRICTING OF POLITICAL BOUNDARIES.
THAT'S THE THING THAT ERIC TALKED TO US ABOUT, ABOUT SPLITTING, YOU KNOW, FRAGMENTING AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
SO DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO, UH, IS YOUR MOTION TO ESTABLISH AN ORDER TO PASS AN ORDER ESTABLISHING CRITERIA FOR REDISTRICT AND POLITICAL BOUNDARIES? THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER BARBARA DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.
AND THEN ON ANOTHER MATTER, UM, THIS WOULD BE, UH, LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO ORDER REDISTRICTING OF POLITICAL BOUNDARIES.
OF COURSE, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY OPTION, BUT TO DO THAT.
SO SINCE WE'RE SO OUT OF, UM, PERCENTAGES, SO IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE AN ORDER RE-DISTRICTING OF POLITICAL BOUNDARIES? I'M GOING TO MAKE THAT MOTION, THE MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER IN CAGE, DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.
[2. Adjourn Meeting.]
I THINK THAT GETS US TO THIS ITEM TWO ON THE AGENDA.I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING AND HOPE THIS WORKS OUT WELL.
AND YOU, AND YOU WON'T BE BACK FOR A FEW WEEKS, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE MOTION TO ADJOURN, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.
IS THERE A SECOND? I ALSO, AGAIN, A SECOND COMMISSIONER BARBARA DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING, I SUPPOSE, NO, WE ARE THINKING COMPLAINT.