Nov 02, 2021 Commissioners Court

WELL,

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[Call to Order]

TODAY IS TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 2ND, 2021 9:00 AM.

WE'RE IN THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING ROOM IN THE COURTHOUSE, ANNEX AND KAUFMAN.

UH, WE'LL START OFF OUR MEETING TODAY.

UH, UH, PASTOR KYLE IS GOING TO LEAD US IN A IMPLICATION AND COMMISSIONER K2 IS GONNA LEAD US IN THE PLEDGES.

WOULD YOU PLEASE STAND GOOD MORNING ONE MORNING, FATHER, WE THANK YOU LORD, THAT YOU ARE HERE TO LEAD US AND GUIDE US AND DIRECT US THROUGHOUT THE RES OF THIS DAY.

THIS THROUGHOUT THIS MORNING FATHER IN HIS MEETING FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU JUST HELP US TO STAY FOCUSED AND TENTATIVE UNTO YOU THROUGHOUT EVERYTHING THAT WE DO FOLLOW.

WE BIND UP THE ENEMY AND WE SEND THEM BACK TO THE PIT OF HELL, WHERE HE BELONGS AND FATHER, WE SPEAK PROSPERITY AND HEALTH AND GROWTH OF OUR COUNTY TO BE DONE IN THE WAY THAT YOU WANT IT TO BE DONE.

FATHER, WE JUST THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL THAT YOU DO LORD.

AND WE ASK ALL THIS IN THE WONDERFUL, PRECIOUS, GLORIOUS NAME OF JESUS CHRIST.

AMEN.

OKAY.

UH, IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL ON THE TEXAS STATE, INDIVISIBLE.

GOOD MORNING TO EVERYONE.

UM, WE WOULD NORMALLY AT THIS TIME HERE ARE COMMENTS FROM VISITORS.

I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS, SO I SUPPOSE WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY THAT CARES TO SPEAK TO THE COURT THIS MORNING.

UH, THAT

[1. ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE. (Part 1 of 2) ]

I DON'T HAVE ANY, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE TO SHARE, JUDGE? YOU JUST WANT TO MENTION THE PASSING OF COUNTY JUDGE.

JIM, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT SERVICES ARE GOING TO BE THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME OF THAT.

I THINK UNDERSTANDING THE SERVICES ARE GOING TO BE FRIDAY AT FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH IN KAUFFMAN.

I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT TIME.

IT'S 11 O'CLOCK.

THANK YOU.

SURE.

UM, WE ALSO LOST A JOHNNY COUNTRYMEN WHO WAS A TRUE TREASURE FOR THE COUNTY FOR A LONG TIME.

A VETERAN, A NAVY VETERAN, I BELIEVE, AND WAS A VERY ACTIVE IN, UM, ESTABLISHING OUR VETERANS PARK.

SO, UH, WE OFFER OUR CONDOLENCES TO HIS WIFE CANDY.

UM, NEXT

[2. CONSENT AGENDA]

WE ONLY HAVE ONE THING ON THERE, WHICH IS ACCEPTING COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING MINUTES FOR OCTOBER 25TH, 2021 AND OCTOBER 28TH, 2021.

ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS OR ADDITIONS TO THE MINUTES? IF NOT.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS SUBMITTED, UH, MIKE THAT MOTION BY, UH, WHERE THE EMOTIONAL COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER HAUNT DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I SUPPOSE NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

UM, I DID.

I FAILED TO MENTION WE, WE HAVE A QUORUM TODAY, BUT, UH, COMMISSIONER BARBARA IS NOT WITH US.

ITEM

[3. Kristi Dickey; Discuss/Consider motion to Approve Final Plat of Bliss Meadow Located on CR 4102 in PCT 4.]

GOOD MORNING, CHRISTINE, UM, BLISS, MEADOWS WE'LL HAVE FIVE LOTS, UH, FOUR LOTS BEING 1.19 ACRES.

UM, AND THEN THE FIFTH LOT WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 34 ACRES.

THIS'LL BE A SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL HOMES.

UM, THERE ARE PLANNING TO EXTEND ON THOSE 34 ACRES, BUT NOT UNTIL LATER ON, UH, I SHOT ON THE, THE, UH, APPLICATION THAT THEY INTEND TO FILL IN, UH, A POND.

I THINK IT'S ON THAT PROPERTY.

IT, I PRESUME THAT THIS IS ALL CLEARED THROUGH THE FLOOD PLAIN, PLAIN ON THAT PROPERTY.

OKAY.

QUESTIONS FOR CHRISTIE? IF A NO QUESTION IS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT FINAL PLAT OF BLISS MEADOW IS PRESENTED? SO MOVE, WE HAVE THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER CAGE.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES BACK TO CHRISTIE AGAIN.

CHRISTIE'S THE, YOU GOT A LONG LIST TODAY, CHRISTIE, UH,

[4. Kristi Dickey; Discuss/Consider motion to Approve Final Plat of Elysium Estates Located on State Hwy 34 in PCT 3.]

YES, SIR.

UM, THE CLIENT IS SPLITTING THE PROPERTY INTO TWO LOTS.

UM, THEY'RE MOVING HERE FROM FLORIDA, UH, ONE ACRE BEING FROM FOUR ACRES AND THE OTHER BEING SIX ACRES.

AND SO THEY'RE SPLITTING IT.

SO THEY'LL BE ABLE TO PUT FAMILY ON THE LAND AS WELL.

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UH, IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT FINAL PLAN, BUT LUCY MISSTATES HAS PRESENTED I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION WITH A MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

IS THERE A SECOND, A SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

NUMBER FIVE.

[5. Kristi Dickey; Discuss/Consider motion to Approve Replat of Quail Hollow Lot 24 Located on Bobwhite Ln. in Pet 3.]

LOT 24 LOCATED ON BOB WHITE LANE IN PRECINCT ME.

UM, THIS ONE IS OKAY, SO SHE'S SPLITTING THE TWO LIGHTS ARE INTO TWO LIGHTS.

IT'S 4.5 ACRES AND THEN TWO ACRES.

UM, SHE IS PLANNING ON PUTTING HER FAMILY, HER PARENTS NEXT TO HER.

AND SO SHE WAS WANTING TO SPLIT THE LAND.

SO SHE'LL BE ABLE TO DO THAT QUESTIONS IF THERE THE NO QUESTIONS.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REPLANT, A QUAIL HOLLOW LOT 24 AS PRESENTED MIKE, THE EMOTION WITH EMOTION COMMISSIONER HUNT, DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING, I LOVE YOU THOUGH.

I'M SORRY.

SECOND.

FROM A COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS EMOTIONAL COMMISSURE HUNT THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED NO MOTION CARRIES

[6. Kristi Dickey; Discuss/Consider motion to Approve Preliminary Plat for Eden Prairie Ranch Located on FM 429 in PCT 3.]

THIS IS YOUR LAST ONE.

CHRISTIE DISCUSS AND CONSIDER A MOTION TO APPROVE PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR EDEN PRAIRIE RANCH LOCATED ON FM 4 29 IN PRECINCT THREE.

YES.

UH, AIDEN PRAIRIE ACTUALLY STARTED BACK LAST YEAR AND HAS ALREADY DONE A PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL.

UH, PREVIOUSLY THEY'VE GONE BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND HAS STARTED OVER.

THIS WILL BE 67 LOTS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOMES IN THIS, UH, SUBDIVISION ON 4 29.

AND WE'RE JUST ASKING THE COURTS FOR APPROVAL FOR THE PRELIMINARY PLAT QUESTIONS FOR CHRISTIE.

IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY PLAN FOR HEAT AND CAREER? I GUESS PRESENTED I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WE HAVE THE EMOTION COMMISSIONER HUNT IS A SECOND.

SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I SUPPOSE.

NO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHRISTINE.

THANK YOU.

[7. Raylan Smith; Discuss and consider award of contract to Akin Excavation in the amount of $85,050 for maintenance to Pet 4, County Road 4096; utilizing RFP 21-19.]

GOOD MORNING.

UM, THIS IS JUST SIMPLY SOME CULVERT IN SOME CLEARING FROM AIKEN EXCAVATION, FOUR COUNTY ROAD, 40 96 QUESTIONS.

IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT WITH ACHE AND EXCAVATION? SO MOVE.

WE HAD A MOTION COMMISSIONER KATES.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND SACRUM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION.

YEAH, THIS IS JUST A, THIS IS JUST SOME, UH, ADDITIONAL WORK THAT WE'RE DOING PRECINCT.

UM, JUST POINTS OUT THAT WE ARE SO WOEFULLY SHORTHANDED, PARTICULARLY WITH OUR EQUIPMENT OPERATORS THAT, THAT WE'RE REALLY FORCED TO, UH, CONTRACT QUITE A BIT OF THIS WORK THAT NORMALLY I'D LIKE TO DO IN-HOUSE BUT SIMPLY DON'T HAVE THE MANPOWER TO DO IT.

SO THIS WAS, UH, THIS IS ALSO ADJACENT TO THE SOLAR FARM OPERATION AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO, TO, UH, CLAIM PARTIAL REIMBURSEMENT BEHIND A ROAD USE AGREEMENT HERE.

OKAY, GOOD.

OKAY.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON, UH, ON ITEM SEVEN E UH, MORE DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES AUTOMATE,

[8. Raylan Smith; Discuss and consider contract renewal between Kaufman County and Kofile Services, Inc. for indexing services of the Kaufman County Clerk's records; utilizing TxMAS Contract]

THIS IS THE CONTRACT RENEWAL, THE OVERALL CONTRACT RENEWAL FOR THE SERVICES THAT IS PROVIDED BY .

I DO KNOW THAT WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE HERE.

DID YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THE COURT? I WAS GOING TO LET YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF SINCE THEY DEFINITELY DO A LOT FOR US.

GOOD MORNING.

I'M STACY COURT SAUNA WITH CO FILE.

UM, I WAS HERE WHEN WE PRESENTED THAT.

UM, BUT UM, YES, THE, THE OLDEST ORACLE BOOK TO YOU ALL, UM, THIS CONTRACT THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO, UM, IT'S JUST, WE'VE BEEN PROVIDING DAILY INDEXING SERVICES FOR LAURA FOR, I KNOW WELL OVER 10 YEARS.

AND SO IT'S JUST A CONTRACT RENEWAL, THE PRICING STAYS THE SAME.

THERE'S NO INCREASE IN PRICE.

AND SO IT'S MORE OF JUST TO KEEP OUR RECORDS CURRENT.

SO I'LL STAY UP HERE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOOD.

YOU'RE GOOD.

LAURA, DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING? OKAY.

SO YOU HAVE TO COME TO THE MICROPHONE.

IF YOU GET,

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THAT'S AMAZING THAT THERE'S NOT A PRICE IN GREECE, RIGHT.

THAT EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTRY AND RAISED EVERYTHING.

OH, THAT'S SUCH A GOOD NEGOTIATOR.

I KNOW THAT'S RIGHT.

ALRIGHT, GOOD JOB.

OKAY.

AND LET'S SAY ONE THING, GETTING TO SPEAK TO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE.

YOU'RE ALWAYS YELLING AT US TO SPEAK TO THE MICROPHONES, BUT THE ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE FROM THIS PORTION AND I DIDN'T GET WITH RAYLAND ON IT.

IT'S NOT PROTECTS MASS CONTRACT.

IT IS JUST A RENEWAL OF THE EXISTING CONTRACT.

SO IF WE CAN TAKE THAT OFF THE MINUTES, I'D APPRECIATE, WE'LL MAKE THAT PART OF THE MOTION THEN UTILIZING EXISTING CONTRACT.

OKAY.

UH, NO MORE QUESTIONS FOR THEM.

IS THERE A MOTION TO, UH, RENEW THAT CONTRACT WITH CO FILE SERVICES? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSION CAGE DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES ITEM

[9. Raylan Smith; Discuss and consider award of contract to Kofile Services, Inc. in the amount of $711,596.29 for Kaufman County Clerk Deed and Probate records; utilizing TxMAS Contract.]

OKAY.

AGAIN, CO FILE SERVICES IN THE AMOUNT OF $711,596 AND 29 CENTS FOR COFFIN COUNTY CLERK DEED IN PROBATE RECORDS.

AND THIS SAYS UTILIZING TEXT MS. CONTRACT.

YEAH.

SO THE PURCHASE WOULD BE PART OF THE PURCHASING CO-OP.

UM, THIS IS A SPECIAL PROJECT THAT, UH, THE COUNTY CLERK IS REQUESTING.

SO DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT ALSO? SO IN ESSENCE, THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF LAURA'S ARCHIVE PLAN.

UM, YOU KNOW, SHE COLLECTS FEES, UM, FOR PROJECTS SUCH AS THESE, THESE FEES HAVE TO BE USED TO, UM, RUSS RESTORE AND PRESERVE THE HISTORICAL RECORDS FOR KAUFMAN COUNTY.

AND THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF THE DEED RECORDS IN PROBATE.

WE, WE JUST, UM, DELIVERED A PROBATE PROJECT AND THIS IS JUST A SMALL PORTION OF THE FINAL FINALIZATION OF THE PROBATE QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

AND THIS IS TEXT MASS, RIGHT? YES.

OKAY.

UH, IS THERE A MOTION TO AWARD THE CONTRACT TO CO FILE SERVICES IN THE AMOUNT OF SEVEN HUNDRED AND ELEVEN FIVE NINETY SIX IN 29 CENTS FOR DEED IN PROBATE RECORDS UTILIZING THE TEXT MES CONTRACT.

SO MOVE, WE HAD THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER CATES, IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

[10. Raylan Smith; Discuss and consider additional design services and fees from HOK for the Proposed Juvenile Detention Facility; utilizing RFQ 20-09.]

SO JUST AS A REMINDER, UM, A FEW MONTHS AGO, YOU DID APPROVE FOR HOK TO DO THE CONCEPT PLAN WORK FOR THE JUVENILE DETENTION CENTER.

UM, THE BUDGETS THAT WE HAVE LOOKED AT GO IN BETWEEN THE ARP FUNDING, AS WELL AS THE, UM, THE REVENUE GENERATED OFF OF REAL ESTATE AND POSSIBLY LEFTOVER BOND FUNDS, UM, THERE WAS MONEY FOR THE DESIGN SERVICES OF THE JUVENILE DETENTION FACILITY.

UH, PART OF THIS DESIGN SERVICE WOULD ALSO INCLUDE THE ASSISTANCE FOR THE OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE BUDGET OF THE FACILITY, WHICH IS GOING TO BE A HUGE PART IN HOW THAT WOULD ROLL INTO, UH, BUDGETING AND FUNDING FOR THE FUTURE.

SO THIS IS JUST THE SECOND STEP.

UM, IF THIS CONTRACT IS APPROVED, THEN HOK PLAN WOULD BE TO BRING FORWARD TO YOU THE CONCEPT PLAN AND, UM, KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND THEN EXPLAIN WHAT NEXT STEPS AND THAT TIMELINE WOULD BE OKAY.

AND THESE CONTENT PLANS IS IT THAT I WAS LOOKING THROUGH ALL THAT AND THEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE 80,000 THAT JUST FOR THEIR SERVICES, RIGHT.

CAN'T SPEND MORE THAN 80 THEN THAT'S ON THE NEXT ONE.

OKAY.

YEAH.

THAT'S FOR THAT, UM, OUTDOOR RECREATION MASTER PLAN, THIS WOULD BE FOR ARCHITECT AND ENGINEERING SERVICES.

THIS WOULD TAKE YOU ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS.

YES, SIR.

AND ALL THE WAY THROUGH CONSTRUCTION.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM RUTLAND ABOUT THIS THEN WHAT'S BEFORE IT WOULD BE LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE ADDITIONAL DESIGN SERVICES AND FEES FROM HOK FOR PROPOSED JUVENILE DETENTION CENTER

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I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION WHERE THE MOTION COMMISSIONER CATES.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING HI.

HI, THOSE POSTS KNOW THAT MOTION CARRIES GAWKER.

SPEAK UP JUST A LITTLE BIT, PLEASE.

ON YOUR VOTES.

UH, ITEM 11,

[11. Raylan Smith; Discuss and consider additional design services and fees from HOK for the Outdoor Recreation Master Plan; utilizing RFQ 20-09.]

AND SO WE HAVE SINCE THEN KIND OF GROWN THE PROJECT INTO WHAT, WHAT IS GOING TO END UP BEING A GRANT APPLICATION FOR A MASTER, UM, A MASTER PLAN, AN OUTDOOR RECREATION MASTER PLAN.

AND SO OUR FIRST COMMITTEE MEETING WAS HELD LAST TUESDAY AFTER COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

AND WE'RE STARTING TO PUT A LOT OF THAT TOGETHER.

SO HOK IS ASKING TO GO BACK AND REFIGURE THE NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT FOR THIS ENTIRE PROJECT, BECAUSE THERE WILL BE A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION, UM, NUMBERS THERE.

THERE'S JUST GOING TO BE A LOT MORE INFORMATION THAN WE'LL HAVE TO GET TOGETHER FOR THE EDA APPLICATION.

I DID WANT TO MENTION THAT I PRESENTED OUR OUTDOOR RECREATION MASTER PLAN IDEA TO THE COG EDC ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON.

AND WE GOT A NOD FROM THEM.

THEY STATED THAT THIS WAS THE FIRST PROJECT THAT THEY'VE HAD IN THE REGION THAT THEY FEEL AS THOUGH MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR THIS FEDERAL FUNDING AND HAVE AGREED TO, UM, PROVIDE THEIR FULL SUPPORT AND ALSO PROVIDE, UM, THE SERVICES OF EDITOR FOR OUR GRANT APPLICATION.

SO, UM, THAT, THAT WAS HUGE THAT, UH, WE GOT THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND DIRECTORS CHECK MARK ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON.

SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

UM, IT'LL JUST BE NICE TO HAVE HOK THERE TO PROVIDE ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED FOR THE FUNDING REQUEST.

JUST SO IT DOESN'T GO ON NOTED, UH, WHAT RAYLAND WAS TALKING ABOUT WITH THE COG EDC PROGRAM.

UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN GETTING, UH, UH, TRAFFIC EMAIL TRAFFIC ON FOR, FOR A LITTLE WHILE AND THIS POPPED UP AND THE FACT THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOING TO HELP US EDIT OUR, OUR GRANT APPLICATION IS A HUGE THING BECAUSE IT MAY NOT SOUND LIKE MUCH, BUT THE DEVIL'S IN THE DETAILS ON THESE SORT OF THINGS AND ARE PEOPLE WHO KNOW, THEY KNOW THE RIGHT LANGUAGE, THEY KNOW THE RIGHT WAY TO POSE WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO, AND THAT'LL BE A GREAT ASSET.

IT WAS A GOOD CALL.

YEAH.

RAELYNN, WOULD YOU JUST, JUST REALLY BRIEFLY READER'S DIGEST, OUTLINE WHAT THE OUTDOOR RECREATION PLAN IS ALL ABOUT? WHAT, WHAT THE SCOPE OF THAT.

SO WE HAVE, WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER A PLAN TO KIND OF INCORPORATE ALL OF THE LAND FROM THE SHOW BARN, THE VETERANS SERVICES, MEMORIAL PARK, UM, ALSO THE POOR FARM CAUSE ALL OF THAT'S KIND OF CONNECTED WITH THE POND.

UM, THE GRAND SCHEME IS THAT EVERYTHING BE CONNECTED THROUGH WALKING TRAILS.

WE WOULD HAVE RV SPOTS AVAILABLE AT THE SHOW BARN AREA.

UH, IT WOULD BE A NEW SHOW BARN WITH ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES.

WE'RE PROPOSING A PAVILION WITH OFFICES FOR THE VETERANS PARK, AS WELL AS UPGRADES.

AND THEN ALSO A WING ON THE COUNTY LIBRARY, A CHILDREN'S WING.

AND WE'RE LOOKING AT OUTDOOR SEATING, UM, AN OUTDOOR CONCERT AMPHITHEATER SPACE.

UM, SO IT WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY, IT WOULD JUST COMBINE ALL OF THAT PROPERTY AND MAKE IT USEFUL FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY AND AS WELL AS THE POOR FARM.

AND DON'T FORGET THEM AGRILIFE WITHOUT OTHER COOKING DEMONSTRATIONS AND CLASSES.

YES.

AND THE NATURAL APP WOULD HAVE ALL OF THEIR SERVICES MOVED OVER.

IT'S A SEPARATE BUILDING THAT WE AT LEAST CONCEPTUALIZED THE, UH, AND SO THIS IS ALL IN PURSUIT OF A GRANT THAT IS, I KNOW IT'S A FEDERAL.

UH, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE, WHO WHO'S THE SPONSOR OF THE CURRENT, THE FEDERAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UM, ASSOCIATION.

SO IT IS THE US EPA AND UM, SO THEIR BRANCH, THEY BRANCH DOWN TO THE STATE, EDC WHO THEN LOOKS TO OUR LOCAL COG ARE REGIONAL.

SO, UM, THAT'S WHY MY FIRST STOP WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT COG WAS WITH US ON THE GRANT APPLICATION.

SO THAT'S

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YES.

AND, UM, THEY WILL ALSO I'LL HAVE A LIAISON WITH THE U S EDA THROUGH COG.

SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO TALK THROUGH, UM, THE INITIATIVES AND ALSO SOME OF THE GRANT INFORMATION BEFORE IT'S, IT'S NOT THE STATE IT'S CALLED FEDERAL MONEY GOING.

YEAH.

OKAY.

YEP.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER THINGS, THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING JUDGE.

I, I, I, I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF PUBLIC INTEREST IN THIS, IN THIS WHOLE PROJECT AND CERTAINLY IN SPECIFIC PARTS OF IT, THE SHOW BARN, THE LIBRARY, WHENEVER YOU, SO I JUST HOPE, UH, ASSUMING THAT WE'RE SUCCESSFUL, WE'VE MOVED FORWARD THAT WE CAN, UH, SCHEDULE AT LEAST A COUPLE OF PER PUBLIC WHERE WE CAN GET SOME PUBLIC INPUT ON, ON THE NEEDS AND DESIGN AND THAT KIND OF THING.

WELL, WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER SOME DATA, SOME REAL NUMBERS, UM, WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO EACH OF THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE GOING TO BE INVOLVED, UM, WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THEM OVER THE PAST TWO OR THREE YEARS SINCE COVID AND HOW DO WE BRING TOURISM INTO KAUFMAN COUNTY? SO WE'RE PUTTING THE NUMBERS TOGETHER.

AND SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO ONCE WE HAVE SOME OF THE BASIC INFORMATION IS, AND THE BASIC CONCEPT IS TO START BRINGING THAT TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

AND THEN WE WOULD ALSO DO THE TRAIL OF ALL OF OUR SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS, CHAMBERS, UM, ONCE WE KNOW THE AMOUNT THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR AND WE'LL, WE'LL DEFINITELY GET IT OUT, CAUSE ANY LETTER OF SUPPORT OR, UM, SUPPORT PERIOD THAT WE CAN GET IS GOING TO BE HUGE.

RIGHT, RIGHT NOW EVERYBODY'S AT THE TABLE, EVERYBODY'S AT THE TABLE AND THEY'RE COLLECTING ALL THEIR DATA AND STUFF WHERE THEY'RE AT NOW AND WHAT THE POSSIBILITIES ARE WITH THE NEW DESIGN.

SO, YOU KNOW, THEN IT'S REALLY INCUMBENT UPON THEM TO GO BACK AND DO A LOT OF THE WORK FOR ALL THIS DATA.

AND I MEAN, JUST LITTLE THINGS.

THEY HAD A SHOW OUT THERE THIS WEEKEND AT THE SHOW BARN AND IT WAS CHICKENS AND RABBITS AND THERE WAS 279 PEOPLE WITH AWAKE TO GO TO SIGN UP.

SO I KNOW THE 279 ENTRIES, YOU GOT FAMILIES AND STUFF.

YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, AND I'M NOT A CHICKEN IN A RABBIT, GAB, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT AREN'T.

AND I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE AT THE TABLE AND INVOLVED, BUT I JUST LIKE TO SEE THE PUBLIC HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BYE.

NOW, THE PLANNING STAGES, WE DO HAVE THE, ALL THE PEOPLE IN THERE THAT ACTUALLY KNOW THE DATA AND THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND WHAT THE POSSIBILITIES ARE.

IT IS REALLY THIS IT'S REALLY A GOOD TEAM EFFORT TO WRITE IS PUT TOGETHER WITH EVERYBODY AROUND THE TABLE AND YOU GUYS HAVE THE INFORMATION.

SO I THINK IT IT'S GOING TO BE A GOOD PROJECT.

IT'S GOOD TO HAVE ALL OF US TOGETHER FOR SURE.

WHAT'S THE TIMEFRAME ON THE, UM, SO THERE IS NO DEADLINE FOR THE GRANT APPLICATION.

IT'S KIND OF FIRST COME FIRST SERVE.

SO OUR COMMITTEE GOAL IS TO HAVE THE GRANT APPLICATION AND EVERYTHING READY BY JANUARY.

SO, UM, THERE'LL BE SOME INTENSE WRITING AND PUTTING THINGS TOGETHER AND ALSO MEETINGS AROUND THE COUNTY.

BUT THAT WAY WE DON'T WANT ALL THE MONEY GONE, THEN THEY HAVE SOME KIND OF TIME FRAME, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT IT WOULDN'T, WELL, IT'LL BE JANUARY OF 2023.

SO WE'LL, WE'LL STILL BE A YEAR IN ADVANCE, BUT IT IS FIRST COME FIRST SERVE ON THE FUNDING, PASS IT OUT UNTIL 23.

OKAY.

OKAY.

UH, SO WHAT THAT'S ITEM 11, UH, TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ADDITIONAL DESIGN SERVICES AND FEES FROM HOK FOR THE OUTDOOR RECREATION PLAN UTILIZING RFQ 2009.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION? THE MOTION TO APPROVE FROM COMMISSIONER HUNT? IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES LAST TO RAYLAND

[12. Raylan Smith; Discuss and consider approval of Escrow Agreement between Kaufman County and American National Bank, pursuant to Grant Agreement from the Texas Water Development Board.]

THE AGREEMENT WE ALREADY HAVE SIGNATURES FROM AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK.

THIS IS THE ONE OF THE VERY LAST PIECES OF THE FIS GRANT.

SO THIS IS THE LAST OF THE DOCUMENTATION TO COMPLETE THAT GRANT SO THAT WE CAN START TO RECEIVE FUNDING FOR.

OKAY.

QUESTIONS, IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ESCROW AGREEMENT BETWEEN COFFIN COUNTY AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK PURSUANT TO GRANT THE GRANT AGREEMENT FROM THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD? SO MOVE, WE HAD THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER CATES, IS THERE A SECOND,

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AYE.

OPPOSED.

NO MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU, RAELYNN.

UH, NEXT

[13. Judge Richards; Discuss/Approve the Fire Marshal and Development Services restructuring.]

UH, JERRY AND MONIQUE, AND I DON'T KNOW WHO ELSE NEEDS TO BE UP HERE, BUT WOULD Y'ALL COME UP AND I KNOW YOU GOT SOME TOLD ME THIS MORNING, YOU'VE GOT SOME DOCUMENTS TO SHOW US JUST HAVING TO DO WITH OUR DISCUSSION EARLIER ABOUT, UH, COMBINING OR, YOU KNOW, RESTRUCTURING, PUTTING A PLAN TOGETHER FOR THE FIRE MARSHALL AND FOR THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TEAM.

SO I'LL KICK THIS OFF BY JUST TALKING ABOUT CAUSE THIS, AND THEN THE REST OF THIS IS REALLY, UH, FALLS IN, UH, JERRY AND MONIQUE'S WORLD.

UH, THE COUNTY FIRE MARSHALL, UH, THIS ORGANIZATION SHOWS THAT THE COUNTY FIRE MARSHALL WE'D HAVE A COUNTY FIRE MARSHALL, A DEPUTY FIRE MARSHALL, AND THE CLERKS THAT WILL BE LIVING IN THE COMMISSION IN THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES BUILDING WOULD SERVE THE FIRE MARSHALL'S OFFICE, UM, YOU KNOW, CLERICAL ANSWERING PHONES, DOING THAT, DOING THAT, DIRECTING PEOPLE TO THEM, THAT, THAT SORT OF THING.

UM, SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT FIRST AND THEN WE'LL GO ON TO THE, THE, THE OTHER HALF OF THAT ORGANIZATION CHART.

I THINK THEY'VE GOT IN THIS CASE, WE ONLY HAVE, WE JUST SHOW ONE OPTION FOR THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE.

SO IS THAT WHAT Y'ALL WANT? I MEAN, THE SHERIFF, I THINK IS NOT ON THIS ORGANIZATION CHART, BUT HE'S AGREED TO HELP MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, HELP THEM BE IN COMPLIANCE AND ALL THAT SORT OF THING.

YEAH.

WE, WE WOUND UP MEETING AND TALKING ABOUT THAT.

AND ONCE AGAIN, YOU Y'ALL KNOW THE REASON WHY, UH, THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE IS POINTED BY Y'ALL, UH, BUT, UH, I'M MORE THAN WILLING TO HAVE MY STAFF AND MYSELF BE INVOLVED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY FOLLOW ALL THE TIKO GUIDELINES AND THE TRAINING THAT FOLLOWS UNDERNEATH THE LAW ENFORCEMENT ASPECT OF IT.

BUT IT, YOU KNOW, AT THE, AT THIS POINT, WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE AVENUE IN WHICHEVER THING DEVELOPMENT SERVICES IS GOING THROUGH, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, AT THIS 0.2 IS VERY REASONABLE, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE NEED TO GET THE NEW APPOINTED FIRE MARSHALL IN THERE, LET HIM DO HIS NUMBERS AND COME BACK AND SEE WHAT HE NEEDS TO DO.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD, EASY WAY TO GET IT GOING AND THEN ALLOW THEM THE NEW PERSON TO STEP UP.

AND WHAT RESOURCES NEED IS, IS IT STARTS MOVING FORWARD.

SAME THING WITH, UH, TALKING WITH MONIQUE ON HER DEAL WITH THERE'S A FEW EXTRA AVENUES OF ADDING PEOPLE IN THERE, BUT, UH, I'D BE VERY CAUTIOUS ON SOME OF THAT BECAUSE WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT SUPERVISOR RATIOS AND STUFF LIKE THAT IS AS ALL THE BIG THINGS WE NEED TO LOOK AT IS TAXPAYERS' MONEY, UH, IS LOOKING AT THAT ASPECT OF IT AND HOW WE CAN DO IT.

AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE GET THIS KICKED OFF, WE LOOK AT IT AND THEN MONIQUE AND THE FIRE MARSHALL COME BACK, UH, WITH ANYTHING THEY NEED IN THE NEXT BUDGET YEAR, OR, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S SOMETHING EMERGENCY IN THE MIDDLE, THEN THEY CAN COME BACK AND HAVE EMERGENCY AMENDMENT WITH THE COURT.

UM, SO THE NEXT STEP, IF WE, IF IT'S, I MEAN, IT'S NOT, IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE TO BLOCK ORGANIZATION ACTUALLY, BUT IF, UM, IF EVERYBODY IS GOOD WITH THIS, I THINK OUR NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO TRY TO SCHEDULE INTERVIEWS WOULD HAVE TO ASK CHUCK IF HE COULD GET HR DEPARTMENT TO GET ARE THE CANDIDATES THAT HAVE SUBMITTED TO COME IN FOR INTERVIEWS.

AND JUST AS SOON AS WE CAN GET THAT SCHEDULED JUDGE TO HAVE ONE QUESTION BEFORE THE SHERIFF TAKES A SEAT.

UM, SO ON THESE PROPOSED ORG CHARTS, OR ARE THESE JUST PLACEHOLDERS GERRY, FOR INSTANCE, DEPUTY FIRE MARSHALL, OR IS THE PROPOSAL THAT THERE IS ONE DEPUTY FIRE MARSHALL.

SO, AND WHILE I'M ALL ABOUT, UH, COST SAVINGS, UH, IT DID OCCUR TO ME THAT, UH, UH, AND I'D LIKE THE SHERIFF'S OPINION ON THIS, UH, THAT, THAT, THAT DOES TEND TO PUT THE TWO SWORN OFFICERS PRETTY MUCH ON DUTY 24 7 OR AT, UH, LIKE EVERY OTHER WEEK.

ONE OF THEM WOULD HAVE TO BE ON DUTY ESSENTIALLY ON CALL 24 HOURS A DAY.

DO YOU HAVE AN OPINION, UH, OR WERE YOU ABLE TO FORM ONE IF, IF TWO ACTUAL POSITIONS, UH, BASED ON WHAT THE, YOU KNOW, THE TREND FOR RESPONSES IS NOW, UH, IS TO POSITION SUFFICIENT? UH,

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UH, BECAUSE NONE OF THEM WAS ON CALL AND THEY HAD ONE INDIVIDUAL TOOK ALL WEEKENDS, UH, EVEN OUT OF ALL FOUR OF THEM.

UH, IT WAS NEVER ON CALL BECAUSE JOHN WORKED EVERY WEEKEND FOR, UH, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT THE AVENUE OF HAVING, UH, PART-TIME HELP AFTER THEM CAUSE HE CAN FIND, I MEAN, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT RETIRED PEACE OFFICERS LIKE TO, OR FIRE OUT A FIRE MARSHALL WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT.

JUST I THINK THAT FUNDING MECHANISM BEING NEEDED TO BE IN THERE, BUT THEN THAT WOULD PUT IT PRETTY ABOUT WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE IS DOING AND CID AND EVERYBODY ELSE'S.

AND ABOUT EVERY THREE WEEKS YOU'RE ON CALL.

OKAY.

SO THAT, I WAS JUST THOUGHT THAT MAYBE WE COULD AT LEAST DISCUSS THAT, PARDON ME, THE NEED FOR EITHER, YOU KNOW, A PART-TIME UH, YOU KNOW, JUST WHERE THAT THOSE GUYS WOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE VACATION OR, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO BE OUT OF THE COUNTY AND THAT WE'D HAVE COVERED.

WE DEFER THAT MAYBE.

I MEAN, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, WHETHER THE QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT THOSE TWO FIRE MARSHALS WOULD BE ABLE TO COVER THE COUNTY.

UH, BUT MAYBE WE COULD DEFER THAT QUESTION UNTIL WE HIRED FIRE MARSHALL AND LET THEM YEAH.

AND MAKE SURE THAT, UM, ABOUT HOW MANY ARSON FIRES THEY REALLY HAD, AND THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE TO RESPOND TO A FIRE.

THEY HAVE TO RESPOND IF SOMEBODY CALLS THEM.

RIGHT.

WELL, MOST FIRE DEPARTMENTS GOING TO CALL THEM OUT.

I MEAN, THEY'RE GOING TO CALL THEM OUT THERE JUST BECAUSE WHETHER IT'S ARCING OR NOT, IT'S CALLS AND ORDERS ORDERS, AND THEY JUST DON'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE THEY'RE VOLUNTEERING.

THEIR TIME NEEDED JAPAN DOWN THE FIRE MARSHALL EXPERTISE TO GET THEM A CAUSAL.

SO THAT'S WHAT THEY NORMALLY, WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

IF, IF THERE'S A STRUCTURE, FIRE VEHICLE FIRES IS NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL.

USUALLY THEY GO BACK TO THE IMPOUND.

BUT SOMETIMES IF IT'S ALREADY, IF MY GUY PULL UP ON IT, WE'RE CALLING THEM.

CAUSE IF IT LOOKS SUSPICIOUS OR SOME EVIDENCE LEANING THAT WAY, WE CALL THEM AND GET THEM TO COME OUT IF THEY COME OUT.

UH, BUT THE END OF THE DAY IS ON MOST STRUCTURE, FIRE THE FIRE.

DEPARTMENT'S GOING TO REQUEST THEM TO COME OUT JUST TO GET A CAUSE AND ORIGIN OR SOME, SOME CLOSE AVENUE AND ALSO TO FIND OUT THEIR INSURANCE.

CAUSE I'LL TELL YOU WHAT THEY DO A LOT OF THE TIME, IF THERE'S A FIRE, THEY WIND UP SEEING IF THEY GOT INSURANCE AND THEN THEY WORK WITH THE INSURANCE COMPANY AND THERE ARE SOME INVESTIGATORS TO GET THAT I WAS TOLD.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE THIS CAME FROM, BUT IN CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE THAT, THAT THE LOCAL, THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS THAT WE HAVE THAT HAVE A FIRE MARSHALL ARE ALWAYS, UH, INTERESTED, HELPING OR INTERESTED IN COMING AND RESPONDING TO A FIRE.

ACTUALLY THEY HAVE LIKE, THEY HAD, THEY DID HAVE A GROUP.

RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT.

THAT ANYTIME THAT I HAD A FATALITY OR A MAJOR CLAIM, THEY BROUGHT THE GROUP FROM FORNEY TARO, ALL OF THEM COME TOGETHER AS A CAST FORCE TEAM AND WORKED AT, WE HAVE A STATE FARMERS.

THEY LIVE IN CRANDALL.

YES.

I MEAN, I THINK WE HAVE RESOURCES, JUST, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THEM AND WORK IT OUT.

RIGHT.

AND LIKE I SAY, I THINK WE NEED TO GIVE THE PERSON THAT'S GOING TO GET APPOINTED THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT TO STEP UP AND RUN HIS DEPARTMENT.

THAT MAKES SENSE.

BUT WE JUST HOLD THAT OPTION, OPEN THAT BASED ON HIS ASSESSMENT OR HIS, OR HER ASSESSMENT THAT, UH, POTENTIALLY WE'D PUT A PART-TIME POSITION.

THAT'S WHAT I SAID.

AND THE LAST MEETING WE HAD, WE TALKED ABOUT IT AND SAID, BRING HIM IN, LET HIM KINDA LIKE SAY YOU GOT TO GET WHATEVER I'M NOT YEAH.

HIM GET HIS FEET WET AND LET HIM START SEEING WHAT HE NEEDS.

YEAH.

CAUSE LIKE I SAY, I'M, I'M, I'M DEALING WITH THEM SEVERAL OUT EVERYDAY, BUT I'M NOT SITTING IN THEIR OFFICE EVERY DAY.

OKAY.

SO I THINK WE KIND OF GOT THAT SIDE OF THE ORG CHART SORT OF WORKED OUT.

AND THEN, UH, I'M GOING TO ASK, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ELSE HERE.

NO, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, I KNOW THE ONE THING WE TALKED ABOUT IN THIS DEAL NOW I KNOW THERE'S TWO OPTIONS ON THERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO USE A COMPANY TO DO THE, THE OTHER INSPECTIONS.

UH, BUT I KNOW THEY'RE LOOKING AT POSSIBLY IT, THERE'S ALSO ALSO HAVING INSPECTORS OF OUR OWN.

SO, UH, THAT, THAT AVENUE IS UP TO Y'ALL AND I, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE ONE CONCERN I WOULDN'T BE WORRIED ABOUT IS THE LEGALITY OF THAT AND HIRING THEM PEOPLE, UH, FAR AS MAKING SURE THEY'RE EXPERTS IN THEIR BUSINESS ALREADY TO FOLLOW A COMPANY THAT HAS GOOD INSURANCE AND PROBABLY PROTECT THE COUNTY THE BEST.

SO THAT'S ALL ABOUT THAT.

THAT REALLY IS THE ONLY OPEN, OPEN PIECE OF THIS IS THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES SIDE OF IT.

WE DO THINK WE WOULD NEED AT LEAST ONE MORE CLERICAL POSITION.

AND ONE OF THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE PUT FORTH BEFORE WAS ELEVATING ONE OF THE CURRENT CLERKS TO BE THE, TO BE THE LEAD OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT, UH, FOR THE CLERKS AND ADDING AT LEAST ONE BACKFILL.

BUT THE OTHER PIECE IS THOSE, THOSE INSPECTIONS.

WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE ANYONE IN THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TEAM THAT WOULD BE CERTIFIED OR QUALIFIED TO GO OUT AND DO THAT PART OF THE INSPECTION.

SO REGARDLESS OF WHICH DIRECTION WE TAKE, WE WOULD NEED TO MEET A SHORT TERM GAP FIELD, WHICH WOULD BE TO USE AN OUTSIDE FIRM CLARIFIED THAT,

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YOU TOLD ME ABOUT THE FIRES, THE FIRE SAFETY AND THOSE PIECES OF THE INSPECTION OR THE FIRESIDE FIRE MARSHALS CAN TAKE CARE OF THEM.

THAT IS THE BUILDING CODE, CORRECT? YES.

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO.

THE ONE ON OUR TEAM QUALIFIED TO DO THAT CURRENTLY, ARE WE REALLY MANDATED TO DO THE PLUMBING AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF AND ELECTRICAL? WELL, IN OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING PERMITS AND THEY HAVE TO TURN IN A THIRD-PARTY INSPECTION TO US.

AND THEN WE ISSUE A LETTER OF COMPLIANCE.

SO THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE BUILDING TO THE RESIDENTIAL CODE, BUT SOMEBODY NEEDS TO BE MAKING SURE THEY'RE DOING THAT.

SO AS YOUR ENVIRONMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL HOUSING THAT WE ISSUE IN PERMANENT FOR RESIDENTIAL HEALTH, WE ARE HERE AND THEN THEY GET THE THIRD PARTY INSPECTION, THE PLUMBING, THE FOUNDATION BEFORE IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, ELECTRICAL BEFORE THE WALLS ARE PUT UP.

THOSE TYPES OF THINGS HAVE TO BE SIGNED OFF BY AN ENGINEER OR AN ARCHITECT.

AND THEN THAT'S TURNED INTO OUR OFFICE RIGHT NOW.

WE DON'T CURRENTLY, WE RELY ON THAT SEAL THAT COMES IN AS A LETTER OF COMPLIANCE THAT THEY MET THE CODE.

WE HAD A LOT OF VICTIMS GETTING OUT IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA.

THEY WERE BUILDING NOT SO REALLY WE NEED SOMEBODY TRAINED IN THE BUILDING CODE SIDE THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

IT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

BUT UNTIL THAT TIME WE WOULD EITHER HAVE TO USE AN OUTSOURCE OR HIRE SOMEONE THAT'S ALREADY GOT THE SKILLS.

SO, UH, AND THE LIKELIHOOD IS THAT THIS NEEDS NOT GONNA GO AWAY.

IT'S ONLY GONNA, IT'S ONLY GOT WELL.

SO I'LL BRING BACK TO COURT, UM, LATER ON IN, WELL, IN JANUARY, WE'RE HAVING AN ISSUE WITH THE INTER-LOCAL AGREEMENTS BECAUSE THE PLANNING IS DONE FOR THEIR ETJ WITHIN THOSE CITIES.

BUT THEN THOSE BANKS ARE COMING TO US FOR THE LETTER OF COMPLIANCE, BUT WE DIDN'T REVIEW CIVIL PLANS.

WE DIDN'T REVIEW ANY OF THE BUILDING ASPECT OF IT.

AND SO WE WON'T ISSUE A LETTER OF COMPLIANCE.

SO WE REALLY NEED TO, I'M HOPING THAT BY BRINGING IN THAT ASPECT, THEN THAT PERSON WOULD BE THE LIAISON WITH THE CITIES AND LOOK AT THEIR BUILDING REPORTS AND THEN BE ABLE TO ISSUE LETTER OF COMPLIANCE.

GOOD.

SO WE REALLY HAVE TWO OPTIONS AND EACH ONE OF THESE OPTIONS HAS A DOLLAR AMOUNT ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

UM, OPTION A, UH, ENVISIONS THAT WE WOULD BE USING THE CONTRACT SERVICES FOR BUILDING INSPECTION, FOR, YOU KNOW, ELECTRICAL AND PLUMBING AND STUFF, UH, THAT WOULD BE COST NEUTRAL, WHICH MEANS WHATEVER THE COMPANY CHARGED US FOR THOSE SERVICES, WE WOULD PASS IT ON TO THE PROPERTY OWNER.

UH, AND ARE THERE ADEQUATE COMPANIES LIKE THAT THAT ARE APPROPRIATELY LICENSED AND BONDED THAT THEY EXIST? YES MA'AM.

YEAH, BECAUSE OF THE METROPLEX, COFFMAN, COFFMAN, NEVER EVEN DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A BILLING INSPECTOR UNTIL THEY GOT ABOUT A YEAR OR SO AGO.

THEY USED A COMPANY JUST FOR DOING ALL THEIR BUILDING INSPECTIONS.

YEAH.

I MEAN, I KNEW THEY EXISTED.

I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THEY EXISTED IN OUR AREA.

THEY WERE, MOST CITIES ARE USING, OKAY.

I THINK MOST CITIES USE THEM IF NOTHING ELSE FOR JUST FOR THE OVERFLOW.

YOU KNOW, WHEN SOMEBODY COMES IN WITH A HUGE DEVELOPMENT, THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH STAFF TO DO IT ALL AT ONE TIME.

SO WE CAN, SO WE HAVE OPTION A AND IF I'VE READ THIS RIGHT, JERRY, THE, THE OPTION A SHOWS, A REDUCTION IN BUDGET REDUCTION OF 154,000, I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF ADJUSTMENT FOR THAT TO THE SHERIFF'S POINT.

WE'D HOLD OFF ON ONE OF THOSE CLERK POSITIONS UNTIL AS THE, AS WE RAMPED UP.

AND IF WE ADDED THAT PART TIME PERSON BACK STEP UP.

SO, SO ROUGHLY YES, ONCE YOU MAKE THE FINAL ADJUSTMENTS, ABOUT $150,000 SAVINGS, UH, TO YOUR CURRENT BUDGET AND THEN OPTION B IS ABOUT $50,000 SAVINGS BUDGET.

THE SUPPLEMENTS WOULD ALL GO AWAY.

WE WENT FROM THE PREVIOUS COURT.

WHEN I REMEMBER WE TALKED ABOUT THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DEPARTMENT RUSSELL'S OFFICE.

I REMEMBER THE COURT'S DESIRE WAS TO HAVE A STRAIGHT SALARY AND TAKE THE SUPPLEMENTS OUT.

YEAH.

THAT'S WHAT I, THAT'S WHAT I RECALLED, YOU KNOW? NO, THAT'S FINE BECAUSE THEY'RE PROBABLY SAFE.

SO WE MADE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS IN HERE.

THEY'RE GOING TO KNOW THAT THEY USED TO GET SUPPLEMENT PAY AND IT USED TO COME FROM THE FIRE CODE.

THIS ONE.

YEAH.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE ADJUSTMENTS FOR THE SALARY, THE SALARIES WERE ADJUSTED TO INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, ASSUMPTIONS THAT, UM, SO COMMENTS, SUGGESTIONS, THOUGHTS ON THE THINGS.

I THINK THAT, UM, OPTION B WOULD BE MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT MONIQUE SAYS WE NEED.

CAUSE YOU NEED, IF WE PAY FOR, FOR THEM TO COME AND DO THE INSPECTIONS AS A COMPANY, YOU LOSE THAT ABILITY TO HAVE A LIAISON WITH THE CITIES TO DEAL WITH THAT TOP STUFF.

SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO THAT WITH SOME OF YOUR PEOPLE ANYWAY.

SO WE GET THE MANPOWER

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RIGHT.

SO I GUESS MY, I GUESS I WOULD DECIDE TO GO WITH OPTION B.

IT GIVES HER MORE TIME TO WORK WITH WHAT SHE WANTS TO ACCOMPLISH YOUR OPTION.

B ALSO, UH, STILL ALLOWS FOR, IF WE FIND OURSELF IN THE SAME SITUATION THAT THE CITIES FIND THEMSELVES IN WITH BEING OVERWHELMED WITH SOME MASSIVE DEVELOPMENT, YOU STILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO UTILIZE A CONTRACTOR, BUT YOU'D ALSO HAVE THE STAFF TO BE ABLE TO EFFECTIVELY LIAISON WITH THAT.

THAT, THAT WOULD BE, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.

WE WOULD JUST NEED THE COURT'S APPROVAL TO LET US AT LEAST SOLICIT AT LEAST FOR AN OUTSIDE SOURCE THROUGH THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT.

ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE THEM ONLY TO BEGIN WITH ONE STAFF AND THEN HR IS GOING TO HAVE TO, HOW LONG ARE THE CLASSES FOR THE BUILDING CODE STUFF? SO TEAKS PUTS ON A CLASS.

I'M NOT SURE TEAKS IS, UM, WHERE OUR DRS AND STUFF GET THEIR CERTIFICATION AS WELL.

UM, BUT THEY PUT ON A CLASS AND I'M NOT SURE HOW LONG THE CLASSES ARE.

UM, BUT THEY'RE GRADUATED STEPS.

SO YOU COULD TECHNICALLY BRING THEM IN AND START THEM IN.

THEN THEY CAN START FUNCTIONING AND LEARNING THE PROCESS.

AND THEN I THINK IT'S, UH, MIGHT BE EIGHT MONTHS BY THE TIME THEY'RE DONE.

BUT, BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE POTENTIAL THAT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIND SOMEONE THAT ALREADY HAS CORRECT.

CORRECT.

MAYBE WE CAN STEAL ONE OF THE VERITAS INSPECTOR.

HOW MUCH ARE YOU WILLING TO PAY COMMISSIONER? LET'S SEE A THAT'S THE OTHER PROBLEM YOU HAVE IS JUST LIKE EMPLOYEES IN THE PAST.

YOU ALWAYS WORRIED ABOUT, THEY GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.

ONCE AGAIN.

IT'S GREAT IF THEY COME WITH THEIR CERTIFICATION BECAUSE IT DIDN'T COST US, YOU KNOW, I'M LIKE B THOSE ARE ALWAYS THE BEST.

YEAH.

AND I WOULD JUST SAY, I, I WOULD PROBABLY LOOK AT YOUR CODE AND THE SALARY FOR THAT.

UH, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL LOOK THE AVERAGE, BUT AT ANY EVEN CLOSE TO AN AVERAGE SALARY OF A BUILDING.

AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING.

AND I LOOKED AT IT AND I SAID, WELL, RIGHT, WELL, THEY BREAK DOWN IN DIFFERENT VARIETIES.

YOU HAVE A BUILDING INSPECTOR, YOU HAVE A CODING COMPLIANCE.

AND SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT CERTIFICATIONS.

SO IF YOU'RE TITLING AT CODING COMPLIANCE, THEY DO TAKE THE TEAKS WHERE THEY CAN DO BUILDING INSPECTIONS AND STUFF TO A CERTAIN LEVEL.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO DIGGING UNDER A SLAB.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE DOING.

SO WE'RE NOT GOING THAT IN DEPTH.

SO YOU HAVE YOUR DIFFERENT CERTIFICATIONS AND YOUR DIFFERENT TITLES, CODING, COMPLIANCE FITS INTO THE CATEGORY.

AND I CAN SEND YOU A DESCRIPTION OF A CODE COMPLIANCE JOB DESCRIPTION THAT I FOUND.

OKAY.

UH, SO IF ANYBODY, IF, UNLESS THERE'S OTHER RANDOM DISCUSSION, I'LL PROPOSE WHAT I THINK MAKES IT WOULD MAKE A GOOD MOTION ON THIS WOULD BE TO ADOPT OPTION B AND TASK, UM, UH, TASK OUR STAFF, PEOPLE TO COME UP WITH A JOB DESCRIPTION.

NOW, I GUESS WE CAN'T TASK YOU CHUCK, BUT WE WOULD ASK YOU THE HR DIRECTOR THAT WE WOULD, UH, ASK OUR, OUR HR DEPARTMENT AND OUR STAFF PEOPLE TO COME UP AND WORK WITH THE AUDITOR TO FINE TUNE THESE NUMBERS IN AND THEN BRING THAT BACK TO US.

BUT WE COULD, WE COULD AUTHORIZE THEM TO DO OPTION B.

NOW, IS THAT EVERYBODY GOOD ON THAT? AND I THINK W WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT EXACTLY RIGHT, THAT WE'D BE FINE TUNING THESE NUMBERS.

YOU MAY, YOU MAY END UP HAVING TO DO EXPEND SOME OF THAT 48,000 TO ADJUST SALARIES OR SOMETHING AT 48,000 SAVINGS.

WHAT'S NOT ON HERE IS SOME OF THE INCIDENTALS TOO.

SO GOING TO A, TO A REGULAR CODE INSPECTOR VERSUS A PEACE OFFICER, YOU HAVE PURSUED VEHICLES.

YOU HAVE OTHER INCIDENTALS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT WE WOULD TRY TO TRUE UP AS WELL TO GIVE YOU, GIVE YOU A GOOD SNAPSHOT.

UM, SO IF YOU GUYS DON'T MIND, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

THE MOTION WOULD BE TO ADOPT THE ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE DEPICTED UNDER OPTION B.