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[Call to Order]
OF THE COFFIN COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT IS CALLED TO ORDER.TODAY IS TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 9TH, 2021.
AND WE WERE IN THE COMMISSIONER COURT MEETING ROOM, LOCATED IN THE COURTHOUSE ANNEX.
UM, WE'RE UH, PLEASED TO HAVE PASTOR KYLE HERE WITH US TODAY.
HE'S GOING TO LEAD US IN AN INVOCATION AND COMMISSIONER BARBARA IS GOING TO LEAD US IN PLEDGES TO OUR FLAGS.
WE THANK YOU LORD, THAT YOU ARE HERE TO LEAD AND GUIDE AND DIRECT US THROUGHOUT THE WAYS OF YOUR PLANS THAT YOU GOT LAID OUT FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US, WE ASK YOUR BLESSING UPON THOSE THAT COME OUT THIS MORNING, FATHER, TO PAY THEIR TIME AND THE TIME TO BE SPENT HERE THIS MORNING, TO DO THE THINGS THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
FATHER, WE PRAY A HEDGE PROTECTION OVER OUR COUNTY AND OVER OUR OFFICIALS, FATHER, FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU LEAD US AND GUIDE US AND DIRECT US THROUGHOUT THE WAYS OF YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS AND EVERYTHING THAT THERE IS.
AND WE ASK THIS IN THE WONDERFUL, PRECIOUS NAME OF JESUS CHRIST.
I PUT THE LINK TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL ON THE TEXAS FLAG.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.
GOOD TO HAVE A FULL HOUSE, HAVE PEOPLE, UH, INVOLVED IN WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY.
UH, THIS WILL BE THE TIME WHEN WE WOULD HAVE REMARKS FROM VISITORS AND I WE'LL GET, WE'LL GET THAT STARTED RIGHT OFF THE BAT.
UM, UH, RONNIE JENKINS, UH, AND HE'S HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT ITEM SIX ON THE AGENDA.
IF YOU WOULD COME UP HERE, PULL THAT MICROPHONE DOWN WHERE YOU CAN USE IT AND TELL US WHO YOU ARE, WHERE YOU LIVE.
UM, ABOUT THIS, UH, ITEM NUMBER SIX.
HOW WILL THIS BENEFIT ME? I LIVE ON 1 51.
ARE YOU ASKING ME WELL, I'M ASKING WHOEVER IS, UH, PRECINCT FOUR.
HOW WILL IT BENEFIT YOU? BENEFIT ME.
WELL, HOW IT, IT MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY INDIVIDUALLY BENEFIT YOU, BUT THE REDISTRICTING WILL BENEFIT.
THE COUNTY IS AS A WHOLE AND IT'LL BENEFIT THE PRECINCT AS A WHOLE.
IT, IT WILL ENABLE THE, UM, THE PREDICATE REASON FOR THIS IS THAT THE JUSTICE OF THE PEACE FOR PRECINCT FOUR IS NOT ABLE TO SIT ANYWHERE.
SO, UH, WITHOUT THIS REDISTRICTING, THE JUSTICE OF THE PEACE AND THE CONSTABLES FUNCTION CANNOT RELOCATE TO THE, TO THE NEW CRIMINAL COURTS BUILDING.
AND, UH, THIS WILL ALLOW THE JP TO OPERATE THERE IN NEW AND MODERN SPACE.
PARDON ME? PARDON ME? WHY NOT MOVE? WHY NOT MOVE ALONG TO THIS NEW SPACE? PARDON ME JUST A SECOND.
UH, AGAIN, I'M NOT, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR EVERYONE, BUT I CAN JUST SPEAK TO A PRECINCT FOR THIS MOVE ENABLES THAT JP AND THAT CONSTABLE TO MOVE TO WHAT IS NOW A MORE CENTRAL LOCATION FOR OUR ENTIRE PRECINCT, UH, INTO MUCH MORE MODERN SPACE.
WE CURRENTLY OPERATE A BUILDING THAT'S IN ESSENCE, A MONEY PIT TO VALUED AT ABOUT $130,000.
WE SPEND ON AVERAGE ABOUT 20,000 A YEAR, JUST MAINTAINING IT TO KEEP IT FUNCTIONAL.
SO, UH, THIS JUST ENABLES OUR, OUR JUSTICE OF THE PEACE FUNCTION AND OUR, UH, CONSTABLE TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE IN, IN PROXIMITY WITH THEIR PEERS IN MUCH MORE MODERN SPACE AND TO BE MORE ACCESSIBLE, TO A LARGER GROWING POPULATION.
THAT'S ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE, UH, COMMISSIONER KATE'S, UH, LET ME, I GUESS WE SH WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS DIFFERENTLY, BUT SINCE WE'RE, WE ACTUALLY IT'S LIKE WE'VE GONE OR WE'RE ALREADY IN OUR PUBLIC HEARING.
SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS MOVE ON DOWN TO ITEM.
LET'S JUST OFFICIALLY OPEN OUR PUBLIC HEARING.
[3. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider exiting regular meeting and enter public hearing.]
TO ITEM THREE.I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK, I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO EXIT OUR REGULAR MEETING AND GOING TO A PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE A MOTION TO DO SO, SO MOVE, WE HAVE THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER CAGES.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER BARBARA DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE, THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES NOW
[4. Pursuant to Chapter 551 of the Texas Government Code; Public Hearing to receive public comment on redistricting of county election, justice of the peace and commissioners court precincts.]
ITEM FOUR, PURSUANT TO SECTION 5, 5, 1 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON REDISTRICTING OF COUNTY, ELECTION JUSTICE OF THE PEACE AND COMMISSIONERS COURT PRECINCTS.AND, UH, I JUST, SINCE WE ARE, ACTUALLY, IT SEEMS LIKE WE WERE
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ALREADY IN THE PUBLIC HEARING PART.I JUST THOUGHT WE'D FORMALLY OPENED THAT UP SO WE CAN CONTINUE THE DIALOGUE TICKET.
AND I GUESS, UH, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE MORE DISCUSSION.
WE HAVE SOME OTHER PEOPLE WON'T TALK ABOUT THIS, BUT, UH, WE'LL CONTINUE TO STYLE THE Y'ALL ARE HAVING, OR THE COMMISSIONERS WANT TO ADD INTO IT.
ANYWAY, WE'LL JUST TO CON TO CONTINUE MY COMMENTS.
I, UH, SO IT'S, UH, IT'S JUST AN EFFICIENCY, UH, ENHANCEMENT FOR PRECINCT FOR, FOR THE ENTIRE PRECINCT.
AND, UH, I DON'T, I CAN'T NECESSARILY TELL YOU HOW IT WOULD BENEFIT YOU INDIVIDUALLY, BUT I DON'T SEE HOW IT WOULD, UH, IN ANY WAY DIMINISH, UH, YOUR STANDING IT'S COMMON.
IT'S COMMON FOR JUST SOMETHING THAT CAME UP, BUT I THINK YOU DIDN'T ANSWER COMMISSIONER IT'S, IT'S, IT'S VERY COMMON IN TEXAS FOR, UH, PRECINCT TO BE ALIGNED AND WHAT THEY CALL A STAR ALIGNMENT, WHERE EVERY PRECINCT COMES IN AND TOUCHES THE COURTHOUSE AND THAT, OR, OR MO MULTIPLE PRECINCTS TOUCH THE COURTHOUSE THAT ALLOWS THE JPS TO ALL BE IN THAT BUILDING.
UH, ROCKWALL COUNTY IS LIKE THAT.
ACTUALLY, WE CAN'T BRING ALL OF OUR, UH, WE COULDN'T POSSIBLY BRING ALL OF OUR JP COURTS INTO THE COURTHOUSE JUST BECAUSE THE COUNTY IS SO BIG IN OUR GEOGRAPHY JUST DOESN'T WOULDN'T MAKE THAT WORK.
MR. HAWKINS IS THE ONLY ONE THAT IS ACTUALLY TOUCHING THE, THE COURTHOUSE RIGHT TODAY, TODAY BEFORE REDISTRICTING.
WHY DON'T WE DO SOMETHING CRAZY? JUST BRING THEM ALL IN ANYWAY, PUT THEM IN THE NEW, UH, THE NEW JAIL FACILITY, WHATEVER THAT IS.
DID YOU GET SO LONG? PARDON ME? IT'S AGAINST THE LAW AGAINST THE LAW.
WHAT? I LET THE LAWYERS SPEAK, TEXAS LAW, TEXAS STATE LAW.
THE COMMISSIONER, I MEAN, THE JP HAS TO BE IN THE PRECINCT.
DID YOU WANT TO ANSWER SOMETHING? WHAT I WANT TO JUST SAY IS THAT THAT IS THE LAW IT'S STATE LAW, AND IT'S STATUTORY THAT THE JP HAS TO PHYSICALLY SIT IN THE PRECINCT THAT HE IS IN AND ROCKWELL COUNTY.
SO ALL OF THEIR PRECINCTS LITERALLY COME IN AT A POINT UNDERNEATH THE, UM, ROCKWALL COUNTY COURTHOUSE.
AND, UM, AND SO THAT'S, DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SIR? UM, I'M SURE YOU ALL HAVE HEARD THE, THE OLD SAYING BETTER TO DANCE WITH THE DEVIL, YOU KNOW, THAN THE DEVIL THAT YOU DON'T.
WE, WE IN PRECINCT ONE ELECTED THAT MAN, WE WANT TO KEEP HIM AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAVE JUST LIKE, YEAH.
THE ONLY RESPONSE I'D SAY IS, UH, THAT ONLY ABOUT 400 PEOPLE, MUSCLE MANOS, ABOUT 400 PEOPLE ARE AFFECTED BY THE CHANGE THAT WOULD ACTUALLY TRANSFER OUT OF PRECINCT ONE.
AND THE VAST MAJORITY OF THAT POPULATION IS IN THE CITY LIMITS.
SO, UH, TYPICALLY THE CITY IS, UM, IS NOT AS INVOLVED WITH COUNTY OPERATIONS AS THEY ARE OUT IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA ROAD, 1 51, I GUESS THAT WOULD FALL TO PRECINCT FOR, OKAY.
I LIKE PRECINCT ONE, MAINTAINING MY ROAD BECAUSE THEY'VE DONE A GOOD JOB FOR THE 30 YEARS THAT I'VE LIVED OUT THERE.
YOU UNDERSTAND? UM, THERE'S CERTAINLY, THERE'S CERTAINLY SEEN PRECINCT FOR ROADS.
I WOULD PREFER TO STAY IN PRECINCT ONE.
UH, I WOULD, I WOULD INVITE YOU TO COME DOWN AND LOOK AT THE 70 PLUS MILES, A NEW ROAD THAT WE'VE, THAT WE'VE, UH, DONE IN PRECINCT FOUR IN THE LAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS, THEN I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE ALL THE OTHER ONES TO SEE TAYLOR RANCH.
PRECINCT FOUR HAS 283 SEPARATE ROADS AND 300 MILES OF ROAD.
SO WE DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY THAT SOME OF THE OTHER PRECINCTS.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT I WORKED FOR THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT FOR A LONG TIME.
I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO DO WHAT YOU CAN DO WHEN YOU CAN DO ABSOLUTELY.
IT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOR FIVE YEARS.
CAN I ANSWER ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU'VE ASKED EARLIER ABOUT HOW THAT BENEFITS YOU, YOU PERSONALLY, THIS, THIS ARRANGEMENT WOULD, UM, WE ARE BUILDING AN EXTENSION ONTO, UH, THE JUSTICE CENTER THAT'S IN, THAT'S IN PLACE.
UH, OUR INTENTION IS TO FUND THAT EXTENSION WITH ARPA MONEY.
YOU KNOW, THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN MONEY.
WE'RE GOING TO FUND THAT EXTENSION WITH ARPA MONEY, WITH FEDERAL MONEY.
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UH, THAT BUILDING IS GOING TO BE TWO STORIES.UH, THE BOTTOM STORY IS GOING TO HOUSE.
THE PLAN IS, OR SHOULD BE THAT ABLE HOUSE, THE BOTTOM CHARLOTTE HOUSING JUSTICE, THE PEACE COURT ONE AND THE JP CONSTABLE ONE WITH THIS PLAN, THE SECOND FLOOR COULD HAVE COULD HOUSE JP FOUR AND THE CONSTABLE FOR.
SO WHAT, SO THE, THE NICK, IF THAT'S, IF WE DON'T GO WITH THAT PLAN, IF WE DON'T RUN THAT PRECINCT UP INTO IT TOUCHES THE COURTHOUSE, SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, TO BUILD ANOTHER BUILDING FOR PRECINCT FOUR, BECAUSE THEY'RE CURRENTLY THAT COURT IS, UH, THAT, UH, JUDGE ADAMS HAS A, HE HAS COURT IN THERE EVERY DAY.
THE COURTROOM IS EXTREMELY SMALL.
UH, EVEN THAT PART OF THE COUNTY IS GROWING AND, UH, IT'S JUST UN IT'S NOT SUITABLE.
SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO OUT AND BUILD ANOTHER BUILDING WITH COUNTY FUNDS AT SOME POINT FAIRLY SOON, UH, TO, TO MAKE THINGS BETTER FOR THOSE FOLKS DOWN THERE PRECINCT FOR THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS SUBSTANDARD HOUSING OR FACILITY, AND NOBODY, NO OTHER PRECINCT CAN MATCH PRECINCT FOUR FOR THE LOW QUALITY OF THEIR FACILITIES.
AND THERE'S NO OTHER FACILITY THAT THE COUNTY OWNS IN PRECINCT FOR THAT THEY CAN BE MOVED TO OR THAT THEY COULD BUY CHEAPER THAN THEY COULD BUILD.
NOT THAT NOT THAT I'M WORRIED.
NO, ACTUALLY I CAN GIVE YOU SOME NUMBERS ON THAT, UM, THAT, UH, THE COST FOR THE JP AND THE, AND THE CONSTABLE TO MOVE INTO THE CRIMINAL COURTS BUILDING, UM, RANGE IS SOMEWHERE, THE ESTIMATE, UH, WILL RANGE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 500,000 TO A MILLION BASED ON THE BUILD-OUT.
AND AGAIN, THAT SPENDING ARA MONEY, NOT COUNTY MONEY, UH, THE HOK, OUR ARCHITECT PROJECTS THAT WE COULD SPEND SOMEWHERE UP TO $4 MILLION TO HAVE TO BUILD A STANDALONE FACILITY.
AND ACTUALLY THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THIS COURT GOT FROM, FROM OUR SPACE PLANNING STUDY WAS THAT, UH, A, THAT A STANDALONE BUILDING WOULD, IF ONE WERE TO BE, IF THAT WAS THE OPTION, WE PURSUED THAT WE SHOULD MOVE INTO CRANDALL BECAUSE CRANDALL IS PROJECTED TO BE THE GROWTH CENTER OF PRECINCT FOR, UH, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THAT SERVES ALL THE RESIDENTS, UM, THAT ALSO, YOU KNOW, EQUALLY DESERVED ALL THE RESIDENTS THAT WOULD THEN BE DISPLACED OUT OF THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY.
SO, UM, IN REALITY, WITH THE AVAILABILITY OF TRANSPORTATION AND ROAD STRUCTURE, THE JUSTICE CENTER IS THE IDEAL LOCATION FOR, UH, AN IMPROVEMENT AND AN, A MODERNIZATION, UH, AND A RELOCATION THAT'S GOING TO SERVE.
UH, SOMETHING ON THE ORDER OF ABOUT 17,000 PRECINCT FOR RESIDENTS WILL BE, HAVE MUCH MORE ACCESS TO, UH, THE JUSTICE TO THE JUSTICE BUILDING, TO THE JP AND TO THE CONSTABLE ABOUT AT LEAST ABOUT 17,000.
UH, FOR INSTANCE, THERE ARE ABOUT 11,000 RESIDENTS IN PRECINCT FOUR NOW THAT LIVE IN HEARTLAND IN THE HEARTLAND AREA.
AND, UH, THAT'S ABOUT 30 MILE TREK TO GO DOWN TO TWO ACCOUNT.
SO, UM, KIM MADE A LOT OF SENSE IN THE PAST WHEN, WHEN THE PRECINCT WAS MUCH SMALLER, BUT, UH, THE PRECINCT NOW, UH, SPANS, UM, A GOOD 40 PLUS MILES FROM INDIANA.
SO A LOT MORE RESIDENTS WOULD BE, WOULD BE, UM, UH, BE MADE AVAILABLE OR THE COURTHOUSE WOULD BE MADE AVAILABLE TO A LOT MORE RESIDENTS.
AND EVEN OUR SOUTHERN, UH, RESIDENTS WOULD ONLY THEN BE INCONVENIENCED BY ABOUT FIVE TO MAYBE AS MUCH AS 11 MILES, UH, HAVING TO DRIVE INTO KAUFFMAN IF YOU CAME FROM MAY BACK.
SO IT REALLY MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
UM, YOU KNOW, I, I I'M, UM, I RECOGNIZE THAT CHANGES IS, UH, SOMETIMES DISTRESSFUL.
UH, I'LL GIVE YOU MY PERSONAL ASSURANCE THAT, UH, WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD VIBRANT ROAD PROGRAM ROAD IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM THAT'S GOING ON IN PRECINCT FOUR.
UH, WE, WE RECOGNIZE WE HAVE A LOT OF ROAD TO, TO, UH, WORK ON AND IT TAKES A, IT TAKES A LITTLE WHILE TO ADDRESS 30 PLUS YEARS OF UNDERFUNDING AND NEGLECT, BUT WE HAVE A FIVE-YEAR WHILE WE ACTUALLY HAVE A SIX YEAR, BUT WE'RE IN OUR FIRST YEAR.
SO WE HAVE FIVE YEARS OF, OF, UH, OF A VERY SPECIFIC ROAD IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM UTILIZING OUR RECENTLY PASSED BOND MONEY.
SO I THINK YOU'LL SEE THAT PRECINCT FOURS, UH, WE CAN ALREADY DEMONSTRATE IT AND YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'RE GONNA, UH, BE RAMPING UP AND ACCELERATING OUR ROAD CONSTRUCTION AS WE GO FORWARD.
SO, UH, I HOPE THAT IT WOULD ALLEVIATE SOME OF YOUR FEARS ABOUT YOUR PARTICULAR ROAD, BUT I'D BE HAPPY FOR COMMISSIONER HUNT TO CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THE ROAD, IF, IF, UH, UH, IF WE DO THIS PRECINCT CHANGE, IF THAT'S, IF THAT WOULD BE PREFERABLE, BUT I DOUBT THAT HE'D BE INTERESTED IN DOING THAT.
UH, BUT, BUT IN TRUTH, THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT COST SAVINGS.
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IT'LL IMPROVE, UH, ACCESS TO COUNTY SERVICES FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF PRECINCT FOR, UM, AND IT'LL ACTUALLY IMPROVE THE EFFICIENCY BECAUSE THE FASTER AND THE BETTER, UM, BETTER PACE THAT A JP COURT OR A CONSTABLE'S OFFICE CAN OPERATE AT, UH, SAVES THE COUNTY MONEY IN THE LONG RUN.UH, THE KEMP SUB COURTHOUSE RIGHT NOW IS, IS ROUTINELY, UH, BECAUSE IT'S AT THE END OF THE LINE FOR INTERNET AND, UH, UH, ADP TYPE, UM, SUPPORT IT'S ROUTINELY IT'S INTERNET GOES DOWN, ITS CONNECTIVITY TO THE COUNTY GOES DOWN.
UH, IT HAS VERY LITTLE SECURITY, ALL VIRTUALLY, NO SECURITY IN THAT BUILDING.
AND, UH, IT IS WHAT'S CALLED RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION.
SO THE, UH, THE VOLUME OF THE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC, UH, WHEN, WHEN APPLIED TO THAT KIND OF CONSTRUCTION, UH, IS WHAT ACCELERATES THE COST TO MAINTAIN THAT BUILDING.
UH, AND AS I SAID, IT'S, IT WAS VALUED AT ABOUT 130 I'D EVEN GO AHEAD AND GIVE IT A 140,000 WITH A LITTLE APPRECIATION NOW.
UH, BUT, BUT, UH, WE'RE SPENDING 20 GRAND, 25 GRAND A YEAR JUST TO KEEP IT UP.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY NOW TO, TO SUPPORT THE CITY OF CAMP.
THE CITY OF CAMP IS VERY INTERESTED IN THAT PROPERTY.
UH, THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO, TO, UH, TO AT LEAST CONSIDER IT FOR THEIR CITY HALL.
SO IT WOULD ALSO BE A SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS OF CAMP.
IF, IF IN FACT WE ADOPT THIS, SO THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, THERE THERE'S A LOT OF PLUSES AND, UH, THE, THE, YOU KNOW, I, I, I REGRET THAT YOU FIND, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT YOUR ROAD MIGHT CHANGE FROM ONE PRECINCT TO ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, OBJECTIONABLE, BUT, UH, IT WAS MY ROAD.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
I WOULD CHANGE CONSTABLES, CORRECT? CORRECT.
WELL, I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHERE YOU LIVE, BUT HAVE YOU SEEN THE EVA? OKAY.
SO YEAH, I'VE KNOWN JOHNNY FOR 40 YEARS.
I'VE KNOWN VANESSA FOR CLOSE TO 30, BUT I LIKED THE ONES THAT WE GOT.
YOU UNDERSTAND? I LIKE SEAN AND, UH, AND MARY, I LIKE THEM.
I DON'T KNOW ANY OF YOU, GENTLEMEN.
I KNOW MIKE, UH, I'VE KNOWN ALL THE COMMISSIONERS THAT I'VE EVER HAD GOING ALL THE WAY BACK TO HOLLY COUCH.
AND, UH, THERE'S ONLY A HANDFUL OF THEM THAT ARE WORTH ANYTHING.
WELL, I CAN'T SPEAK TO YOUR HISTORICAL COMMISSIONERS, BUT I'D SAY THE CURRENT PRICING PORT COMMISSIONERS ARE PRETTY REASONABLE GUY SO FAR, SO FAR, BUT WE'LL SEE.
UM, RONNIE DAVIS, HE'S TALKING ABOUT ITEM FOUR.
WELL, THIS IS ALL THE SAME THING THOUGH.
OH, JUDGE COMMISSIONER, RONNIE DAVIS, UH, LIVE ON COUNTY ROAD, 1 56, AARON HEBA, AND THE GROUP ON THE BACK ROAD AND THE OTHERS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE WITH ME AND HAD I HAD A LITTLE MORE TIME.
I COULD HAVE PROBABLY GOT, I BROUGHT YOU SOME SIGNATURES, THE ONES REQUESTING TO STAY IN PRECINCT.
ONE, I COULD HAVE PROBABLY GOT EVERYBODY.
I WOULD HAVE WENT PERSONALLY TO EVERY ONE OF THESE AND GOT SIGNATURES REQUESTING THAT THEY STAY THE SAME.
UH, I ECHO RONNIE'S, UH, SENTIMENTS AND COMMENTS.
UH, I THINK I KNOW THE COUNTY'S GOT TO CHANGE, BUT I THINK WITH DEMOGRAPHICS AND THE WAY THE POPULATION CHANGING, I THINK THE MORE THERE'S GOING TO BE SOMEBODY OUT OF KILTER.
ANYWAY, I WOULD SAY, MOVE THE DEAL TO CRANDALL AND BUILD ONE THERE TO SERVE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE YOUR BIGGEST POPULATION GOING TO BE WITH HEARTLAND AND ALL THAT.
AND I WON'T TO CONTEST THAT THE MAJORITY OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE IN THE CITY LIMITS.
THEY'RE NOT, UH, I WORKED FOR THE CITY WITH FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE ONLY ONE IS IN THE CITY LIMITS IS THERE'S ONE HOUSE, RIGHT BEFORE YOU GET TO BARE ROAD ON THIS SIDE THERE NEXT TO CLEARFIELD PRINTING.
THERE'S ONE RESIDENCE THAT SOUND THE RESIDENCE IN THE CITY, EVERYBODY ELSE'S IN THE COUNTY.
I LIVED IN PRECINCT ONE MY WHOLE LIFE.
I LIKE OUR COMMISSIONER, NOTHING AGAINST ANY OF Y'ALL OR ANYTHING, BUT I WANT TO STAY AT THE STATUS QUO.
AND SOME OF THE DECISION THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE THOUGH IS GOING TO HAVE, I KNOW THAT I UNDERSTAND THE INCONVENIENCE AND THAT NOBODY LIKES CHANGE, BUT THE NUMBERS THAT WE GOT FROM THE ARCHITECT TO BUILD A NEW FREESTANDING BUILDING WAS $4 MILLION.
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AND I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING FOR SO YOU'RE WELL, AND I, AND I KNOW WITH WHAT THE CITY HAS BUILT AND STUFF THAT THOSE COSTS CHANGE AND YOU CAN SCALE DOWN AND STILL BUILD A NICE BUILDING FOR A HECK OF A LOT LESS.CAUSE I KNOW THEY'VE DONE THE SAME THINGS OVER THERE WITH THE CITY AND IN MY OPINION, SPENT MORE MONEY THAN THEY SHOULD HAVE HAD.
WELL, WE GO BY WHAT THE ARCHITECTS AND THE APP.
AND I WANT TO ECHO OUR SENTIMENTS AND I SPEAK FOR THE GROUP THAT WE WANT TO STAY WHERE WE'RE AT.
UH, THIS DEFENSE IS OPEN AND WE DON'T ACTUALLY NEED CARDS FROM PEOPLE CAUSE THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
DOES ANY ONE ELSE HERE CARE TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER? UH, YOU CAN, I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO COME UP AND DO THE WHOLE THING.
IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND NAME, ADDRESS, SERIAL NUMBER.
AND I, UH, I LIVE AT, HAVE A BUSINESS ON 1 56 AND INSTEAD OF COMING DOWN 1 51 SO THAT OUR ROADS COULD POSSIBLY MAYBE NOT, BUT POSSIBLY SUFFER.
COULDN'T IT COME DOWN THE HIGHWAY 1 75? UH, WELL I'M NOT THE EXPERT ON DRAWING THAT, BUT THE WAY THEY DRAW THESE LINES IS THE WAY THEY MAKE THE, THE PRECINCT LINES IS WE USE, UH, OUR EXPERTS USE CENSUS TRACKS.
UH, THE CENSUS TRACKS ARE THE KIND OF THE BUILDING BLOCKS FOR THE WAY THAT WE ALIGN THE, THE WAY THAT WE ALIGN, THE WAY THEY CREATE THE LINES.
I WOULD THINK THAT IF THEY HAD GONE DOWN 1 75 VERSUS 1 51, IT WOULD HAVE AFFECTED LESS BECAUSE THAT'S ON A COUNTY ROAD.
SO TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION MORE PRECISELY, UH, I'D HAVE TO, AND WE CAN DO THAT DURING THIS MEETING SOMETIME WE COULD, UH, ASK ERIC.
YEAH, WELL JUDGE, FROM MY RECOLLECTION, THE CENSUS TRACKS THAT WERE SELECTED BY OUR CONSULTANTS, THEY, THEY DO, THEY DO RUN UP 1 75.
THEY RUN ON THAT, THAT SIDE OF 1 75, BUT THE TRACKS THAT ARE NOT SET BY US, THEY'RE SET BY THE CENSUS DEPARTMENT.
SO THE WIDTH OF THE TRACK IS, IS I GUESS WHAT CAUSES THE, UH, THE GEOGRAPHY TO BE SET UP THE WAY IT IS.
BUT THE, THE INTENT WAS ABSOLUTELY TO PARALLEL 1 75 JUST TO BE ABLE TO REACH, UM, BECAUSE IT WAS THE ATTORNEY SAID WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO REACH THE, THE, UH, THE ACTUAL PLOT OF LAND THAT THE BUILDING SETS ON.
SO THAT BE INCLUDED, INCLUDED IN THE PRECINCT FOR, UH, GEOGRAPHY.
BUT THAT'S HOW THE TRACKS LINE UP.
NOT, NOT, I MEAN, I'M JUST THINKING THAT THE BUILDING IS ACTUALLY ON 1 75.
SO BECAUSE TO GET 1 51, YOU GOT TO DO A ROUNDABOUT THING TO GET TO, TO THAT NEW COURTHOUSE.
BUT IF YOU HAD 1 75, IT'S A STRAIGHT SHOT AND YOU'RE YOU'RE THERE AND YOU WOULD INCLUDE IT.
AND I MEAN, THAT WAS, THAT'S JUST MY COMMENT.
AND TO ME, THAT WOULD BE THE MORE I'M GOING TO ASK A QUESTION.
IF I CAN GET HIM ON THE PHONE SPECIFIC TO THAT, OH, I'LL TELL YOU THIS.
CAUSE I ACTUALLY DOTTED, I HELPED HIM DOT THE BLOCKS FOR HIM.
AND THEY TOOK THE PEN AND DOTTED EACH BLOCK AND IT GOES ACROSS THE HIGHWAY 75, THIS PART RIGHT HERE.
BUT WHY DOES IT HAVE TO TAKE SO MUCH? IT'S MY PHONE.
I KNOW, BUT, BUT MY HOUSE WAS WAY OVER HERE WALKING.
IT JUST NOT TAKE THAT LITTLE STRIP RIGHT THERE.
AND WHEN THE, WHEN THE SENTENCES OF UNIT THAT DIDN'T HAVE, WHEN THEY SEND US THE CENSUS, BECAUSE THE FEDS DO THAT, WE DON'T, THEY MAKE THIS LITTLE BLOCK AND THEN EACH BLOCK, THEY COUNT THE PEOPLE AND THEY COUNT EVERY HOUSE IN THAT BLOCK.
AND SO WHEN YOU PICK THE BLOCK, THEY GET THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A NUMBER OF PEOPLE TO PUT INTO THAT COUNTY.
I MEAN, TO THAT PRECINCT VERSUS, OKAY.
BUT THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT, BUT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH NUMBERS THERE.
SO WE'RE JUST FOLLOWING THE LAND.
WE WERE FOLLOWING THE LAND UP BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE ISSUES THEY ASKED IF WE'D FOLLOW THE LINE OF THE CONNECT, THE.TO THE TOP.
SO WHEN YOU CHECK EACH BOX GOING UP 1 75, IT, WHEREVER THAT BUCK LANDED, IF IT LANDED IN YOUR HOUSE, THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT WAS.
CAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONLY BLOCK THAT WENT ACROSS 1 75.
I MEAN, YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING?
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BUT I DID.I, I THINK I DID READ, AND I'M ASKING THE ATTORNEYS TO VERIFY THAT WITH OUR CONSULTANT, UH, IT IS THE MOST COMMON WAY TO DRAW THESE LINES IS USING CENSUS BOX.
BUT I THINK I'M PRETTY SURE THAT I READ OR IN DISCUSSION WITH ERIC, YOU DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE TO DO THIS.
UM, AND SO THE QUESTION IN RESPONSE TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS WE'RE GOING TO DIG INTO IT AND FIND OUT, CAN WE ALIGN THAT STRETCH THAT WOULD GO UP AND TOUCH THE COURTHOUSE? CAN THAT BE ALIGNED WITHOUT USING CENSUS BLOCKS, JUST TO, UH, JUST CREATE AN IMAGINARY LINE? I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT THAT WAY WE KEPT OUR COMMISSIONER AND WE WOULD BE, WE WOULD BE HAPPY AND YOU GOT WHAT YOU WANTED.
AND I REALIZED THE MONEY THAT, I MEAN, WE SAVED $4 MILLION.
SO THE TAXPAYER MONEY IS, IS SOMETHING I UNDERSTAND.
BUT, UM, YEAH, THAT WAS, THAT WAS MY QUESTION RESEARCH IN THE END OF THE BACK AROUND RIGHT NOW, AS WE GO THROUGH, AS WE GO THROUGH THE DAY, THE THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UM, SO WE'RE STILL IN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT IS JUDGE? YES.
CAUSE THE COUNTY CLERK WILL YELL AT US IF WE DON'T HAVE CRANKY, THEY ARE AND YOU KNOW HOW CRANKY I AM.
SO WE'RE EVEN GOOD MORNING GENTLEMEN.
UM, JUDGE MARY BARDEN, JUST TO THE PEACE PRECINCT ONE AND, UH, I'M HERE TO DIE BECAUSE THIS DOES AFFECT ME.
UM, ALL OF THE CHANGES AFFECT ME.
UM, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT NOT ONLY, UM, TAKING THIS OUT OF MY PRECINCT, BUT ALSO ADDING A MORE SUBSTANTIAL PART OF FORNEY, UM, I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT I'M GOING TO BE IN KAUFMAN AND I'M GOING TO HAVE CONSTITUENTS THAT ARE JUST AS FAR FROM MY OFFICE AS THEY ARE FROM CAMP, UH, GOING TO JUDGE ADAMS. UM, I WOULD ALSO ECHO WHAT SHE SAID, IF THERE'S A WAY FOR ME NOT TO LOSE, UM, MY CONSTITUENTS, I WOULD LIKE THAT.
UM, ANYBODY THAT COMES TO MY COURT, UH, I DON'T FEEL LIKE IS REALLY UPSET WHEN THEY LEAVE.
UM, THEY WANT A JP THAT THEY CAN TRUST.
THEY WANT TO CONSTABLE THAT I CAN TRUST.
AND I KNOW I'VE BEEN IN THIS COUNTY FOR 33 YEARS AND IF THEY DON'T KNOW ME, THEY USUALLY KNOW MY HUSBAND AND PRECINCT WINE, UM, HAS IT'S OPERATED VERY WELL.
I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO PUT JUDGE ADAMS AND MYSELF IN THE SAME BUILDING.
UM, I DIDN'T PARTICULARLY WANT TO LEAVE WHERE I AM AND OFF ALL FIVE OF YOU KNOW, THAT, BUT IT'S INEVITABLE THAT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
I'M GOING TO BE CLOSER IN PROXIMITY TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
BUT IF THERE IS A WAY TO KEEP MY, MY CONSTITUENTS AND MY PRECINCT FITS, FITS IN THE KAUFMAN AREA, UM, I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, ANYBODY ELSE THEN I WILL JUDGE.
SO, UH, I JUST HAND OUT, UH, SOME RESEARCH.
THAT'S FOR THE CLERK FOR THE RECORD.
SO JUDGE, I JUST WANT TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REDISTRICTING AND I, UH, I RECOGNIZE THE, THE DISTRESS THAT'S CAUSED BY CHANGE AND, AND IT'S NOT MY INTENTION TO, UH, TO, TO MOVE ONE CONSTITUENT THAT, UM, JUST AS I UNDERSTOOD THE PROCESS, WE, WE, UH, WE TRIED TO PICK A LINE BASICALLY, UH, TO GO UP 1 75 AND THAT LINE TOUCHED PRE-ESTABLISHED CENSUS BLOCKS, WHICH THEN INCLUDED, UM, SOME OF THE CONSTITUENTS OUT OF PRECINCT ONE, UH, ABOUT 400 OR LESS.
I THINK, AS I RECALL IN THAT RANGE, CERTAINLY LESS THAN 500, UH, CONSTITUENTS.
THE, THE INTENT ALL ALONG HAS BEEN
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TO, TO TRY TO PROVIDE, UM, A MODERN, SAFE, EFFECTIVE WORKSPACE FOR THE PRECINCT FOR OPERATIONS.UM, PRECINCT FOUR HAS GROWN OVER THE LAST 30 YEARS.
AND AS I SAID EARLIER IS NOW, UM, IT'S, IT'S OVER ONE THIRD OF THIS COUNTY.
IT WRAPS ALL THE WAY FROM MAYBANK BANK, JUST SOUTH OF KAUFFMAN, UP TO THE COUNTY LINE TO COMBINE AND CRANDALL TURNS, THE CORNER GOES ALL THE WAY UP TO 20 WHERE HEARTLAND IS LOCATED.
SO THE PRECINCT, UH, UM, IS, IS MASSIVE G UH, GEOGRAPHICALLY, UH, NO LONGER, NO LONGER IS THE JP, UH, AND THE CONSTABLE, PARDON ME, OR FOR THAT MATTER, THE ENTIRE SUB COURTHOUSE LOCATED CENTRALLY TO THE PRECINCT.
I'M SURE AT ONE TIME IT WAS, BUT IT IS NO LONGER THAT WAY.
UM, BUT I HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM WITH THE ROAD AND BRIDGE OPERATIONS.
IT'S, IT'S LOCATED, UH, IT'S IT'S MAINTENANCE FACILITIES LOCATED IN CAMP, UH, AND CAUSES US A LOT OF EXTRA EXPENSE TO BE ABLE TO, UH, TO WORK ON ROADS, WAY UP IN CRANDALL OR UP TOWARDS HEARTLAND.
UH, THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT CAN BE RESOLVED NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS CENSUS OPPORTUNITY AND ACTUALLY WE HAVE A MANDATE TO RE, TO RE UH, DRAW THESE PRECINCT LINES.
UM, THE KEMP SUB COURTHOUSE, UH, IS A SUB-STANDARD FACILITY.
UH, AS I SAID EARLIER, UH, IT'S VALUED AT ABOUT 132, MAYBE $140,000.
UM, IT IS BUSTING AT THE SEAMS FOR SPACE AS IT IS.
AND, UH, WE SPEND BETWEEN 20 AND $25,000 TO MAINTAIN THAT COURTHOUSE EVERY YEAR.
SO WE'RE PUTTING 20 GRAND AGAINST $130,000 BUILDING.
UH, IT'S IN NEED OF A ROOF RIGHT NOW.
SO, UH, I DON'T SEE ANY, ANY, UH, EXPECTATION THAT THE COSTS WILL GO DOWN OVER THE YEARS.
UM, AS WE SAID, THIS, THIS ENTIRE ISSUE IS BASED ON THE STATE LAW THAT, UM, UH, JP MUST SET IN HIS PRECINCT.
SO THE ONLY WAY FOR THE JUSTICE OF THE PEACE, AND WE ACTUALLY HAD A CONSENSUS EARLY ON THAT, BOTH JP ONE AND JP FOUR WOULD MOVE INTO THIS MODERN, UM, UH, CRIMINAL COURTS BUILDING, UH, ONLY TO DISCOVER REALLY THAT, THAT WE WERE UNABLE TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE'D BE VIOLATING STATE LAW SINCE THE, UH, PRECINCT FORD DIDN'T TOUCH THAT FACILITY.
UH, SO THIS IS, UH, THERE'S ONLY ONE MOTIVATION FOR THIS, BESIDES THE, I SHOULDN'T SAY THAT THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO, THE FISCAL, UH, CONCERNS AS WELL AS THE OPERATIONAL CONCERNS, UM, ARE, ARE ALL WRAPPED UP IN THE FACT THAT ONLY, UH, IF THE PRECINCT INCLUDES THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY, CAN THE JP, UH, FUNCTION THERE.
UH, AS I SAID EARLIER, UH, PRECINCT FOUR HAS ABOUT 17,000 RESIDENTS BETWEEN CRANDALL COMBINED, UH, EVEN SCURRY ACTUALLY.
AND THEN AROUND RED TURNING THE CORNER, GOING UP TO THE 10 OR 11,000 RESIDENTS IN HEARTLAND THAT ARE, UH, TRUTHFULLY, UH, INCONVENIENCE AND DISSERVICE BY THE FACT THAT THE PRECINCT HAS GROWN SO BIG AND THAT THE KEMP SUB COURTHOUSE IS SO FAR AWAY FROM THEM.
UH, SO, UH, IDEALLY, IDEALLY WE, WE COULD BUILD ANOTHER BUILDING SOMEWHERE, UH, MORE IN THE MIDDLE, MAYBE IN SCURRY OR SOMEWHERE LIKE THAT.
THAT'S SORT OF THE GEOGRAPHIC MIDDLE SCURRY WARSAW, BUT, UH, CONNECTIVITY FOR ROADS IS NOT GOOD THERE.
AND THE COUNTY OWNS NO PROPERTY THERE.
SO WE'D HAVE TO ACQUIRE PROPERTY AND BUILD A NEW BUILDING.
AND I HAVE THE NUMBERS FROM HOK THAT WOULD THAT, UH, UH, AGAIN, I THINK THEY'RE HIGH, BUT OUR, THEIR PROJECTION IS ABOUT A $4 MILLION INVESTMENT TO, TO BUILD A COUNTY SERVICES BUILDING, UH, TO ACTUALLY SERVICE THE RESIDENTS, THE ENTIRE PRECINCT OF PRECINCT FOR.
SO EVEN IF YOU CUT THAT NUMBER IN HALF ABOUT $2 MILLION, UH, IF YOU, UH, UH, PROVIDED THEM ESSENTIALLY THE SAME SPACE THAT THEY COULD MOVE INTO, UH, ALONG WITH PRECINCT ONES, JP AND CONSTABLE, UH, IN THE NEW JUSTICE CENTER, UM, THE, THE PROJECTED GROWTH IN CRANDALL AND, UH, AND REALLY EVEN COMBINED TO THAT, UH, FOR THAT MATTER IS, UH, I BELIEVE IS ACCURATE, BUT IT IS STILL PROJECTED.
SO, SO, UH, AT SOME POINT, UH, I THINK THE LAW SAYS THAT WHEN ANY CITY HAS 18,000 RESIDENTS THAT, UH, THAT THEN, UH, THAT AUTHORIZES A SECOND, JP CRANDALL RIGHT NOW IS AT ABOUT 4,500 RESIDENTS.
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STILL SEVERAL YEARS BEFORE CRANDALL IS GOING TO GET UP TO WHERE THEY'RE EVEN CLOSE TO HAVING A J UH, A SECOND JP.UM, SO THIS, THIS MOVE, WHICH SERVICE THIS PRECINCT IN MY, IN MY BELIEF FOR AT LEAST THE NEXT 10 YEARS FOR AT LEAST THE NEXT 10 YEARS AND SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 500,000 AND A MILLION DOLLARS IS THE COST TO BUILD OUT THE, THE, THE EXCLUSIVE SPACE FOR, UH, JP FOR, TO MOVE INTO THIS NEW BUILDING.
AND THAT'S, UH, AMERICAN RECOVERY ACT MONEY.
THAT'S NOT COUNTY MONEY, THAT'S NOT BOND MONEY TO BUILD A NEW FACILITY.
IF WE WERE TO BUILD A FACILITY, EITHER IN CRANDALL OR IN THE WARSAW AREA, UH, SOMEHOW THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT.
SO, UH, IT JUST MAKES PERFECTLY PERFECT FINANCIAL SENSE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
AGAIN, IT'S NOT AN ATTEMPT TO RELOCATE ANY, UH, ANY CONSTITUENTS, IF IN FACT, UH, THERE'S A MECHANISM WHERE YOU CAN JUST TAKE IN ONE SIDE OF 1 75 TO THE OTHER AND, AND, UH, ALLOW US TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW, WHERE WE'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO HAVE THAT REDISTRICTING.
UH, IT'S NOT, NOT AN ATTEMPT TO GROW, UH, NOR TO TAKING ANY OTHER ROADS.
WE HAVE PLENTY OF ROADS, NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
SO, UH, I'M HAPPY NOT TO TAKE IN ANOTHER ROAD IF THAT IS THE CONSTITUENTS AND THE, AND THE PUBLIC CONSENSUS, BUT THIS PARTICULAR REDISTRICTING, UH, NEEDS TO HAPPEN SO THAT THIS JP AND THIS CONSTABLE CAN SIT IN MODERN SPACE, SAFE SPACE, UH, AND I CAN ASSURE YOU WITHOUT, I DON'T WANT TO BE INAPPROPRIATE TO GET INTO THE DETAILS, BUT THERE IS A GENUINE PHYSICAL CONCERN ABOUT THE CONTINUED OPERATION OF, OF THE KEMP SUB COURTHOUSE, UH, FOR PHYSICAL SAFETY, FOR THE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE DOWN THERE FOR PHYSICAL SAFETY, LET ALONE JUST THE, THE ENHANCEMENT IN PRODUCTIVITY AND CAPABILITIES FOR THE JUSTICE, UH, JUSTICE OF THE PEACE AND THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE.
UH, SO ALL THAT BEING SAID, THE, THESE THINGS ARE SUMMARIZED IN THE DOCUMENTS THAT I PASSED OUT, THESE, THE, THESE FINANCIAL CONSIDERATIONS, THESE SECURITY CONSIDERATIONS, UH, AND THESE ENHANCEMENTS TO THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE JUSTICE OF THE PEACE FOR PRECINCT FOUR AND THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE.
AND SO, JUDGE, I CERTAINLY WANT TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS, UH, OF THIS PROPOSAL, THE DISTRICT THING THAT WOULD ALLOW THE JP FOUR TO, UH, BE ABLE TO CONDUCT HIS COURT BUSINESS AND THE NEW JUSTICE CENTER.
I, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR THE KINDS THINGS Y'ALL SAID ABOUT MY GUYS.
CAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT SERVE Y'ALL MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
UM, THEY, RP MONEY CAN BE USED FOR THE CAMP COURTHOUSE.
ALSO THEY RP MONEY IS THERE FOR ADD ON REMODEL AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO JUST TO CLARIFY, THE WHOLE JUSTICE, J P BUILDING IS NOT PAID FOR BY ARP MONEY, RIGHT? THE EXPANSION, WHICH IS ALL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS JUST EXPANSION EXPANSION.
WE CANNOT START FROM SCRATCH AND BUILD A NEW BUILDING ANYWHERE WITH A TIMEFRAME IN THE TIMEFRAME BEFORE THE CAUSE THE CLOCK'S RUNNING RIGHT NOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE RUNNING THE, WHAT I'M ASKING HERE, THE JP BUILDING, YOU SAID, WAS BUILT A HUNDRED PERCENT WITH ARP MONEY, THE EXCHANGE TO EXPANSION, JUST FILLING IN THE SECOND FLOOR AFTER THE BUILDING IS BUILT THE FIRST FLOOR AND THE SECOND FLOOR, THE ENTIRE EXPANSION WING, WHICH CO WHICH HOUSES JP ONE.
AND, UH, IT COULD JUST BE USED FOR REMODELING AND ADDING HOME.
IT IS NOT ASSESSED AS A SEPARATE BUILDING.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF
DO YOU WANT TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION? SO WE'LL MAKE SURE WE'RE GIVING AN ACCURATE ANSWER? UM, NO.
SO BECAUSE THE COUNTY WAS ALREADY IN MOTION TO BUILD THE JUSTICE CENTER, AS IT WILL STAND, COME AUGUST 1ST, THE JUSTICE CENTER EXPANSION IS CONSIDERING AN EXPANSION TO AN EXISTING UNDER CONSTRUCTION BUILDING.
SO IT IS ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT WE'RE ADDING.
IT'S ALSO PERMITTED THAT WAY AS WELL WITH THE CITY SO THAT THIS IS AN ACTUAL EXPANSION TO AN EXISTING, IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE CONNECTED SOMEWHERE.
AND OUR CONSULTANTS TELL US THAT, THAT THE TREASURY IS NOT GOING TO PERMIT US TO BUILD A NEW BUILDING.
SO, UH, AND THEN BACK TO, UH, AS THE PROPOSAL STANDS RIGHT NOW, I'M NOT FOR IT.
UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WE CAN FIND OTHER OPTIONS TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
NOW, IF THE ONES THAT WE JUST DID, YOU SUGGEST ONE, IF THE 1 75 DEAL WILL WORK, LET'S CHECK IT OUT.
IF IT DOES NOT WORK, THEN I WANT TO KEEP MY PEOPLE AND MY PRECINCT.
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I THINK WHENEVER WE HEAR SOMETHING BACK FROM ERIC, I AGREE WITH THE JUDGE BECAUSE I HEARD THE SAME THING THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO, WE CAN SPLIT THE VOTING CENSUS BLOCKS.I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF EXTRA WORK THAT BRINGS OUT THAT WE HAVE TO DO.
AND WE'RE SO, BUT THAT WAS THE THAT'S THE WAY I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT MORPHED INTO NOT LIKE IT IS RIGHT NOW, BUT JUST TAKING DOWN 1 75 AND DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO THERE, BECAUSE IT'S ALL COUNTY PROPERTY.
AT THAT POINT, WHEN YOU COME OFF OF 1 75, THE REALITY IS THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN, UH, TO ACCOMPLISH, UH, RELOCATING OR BUILDING, UH, UH, AN ACCEPTABLE FACILITY FOR PRECINCT FOUR.
SO IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE IF THIS, IF THIS DOESN'T WORK OUT, UH, THE SITUATION DOWN THERE WITH THAT BUILDING AND IMPORTANT 20 OR $30,000 A YEAR INTO THAT BUILDING AND HAVING PEOPLE WORK IN UNSAFE SPACES IS GOING TO CONTINUE.
SO WE'LL SAY MAYBE, MAYBE WE'LL GET THE MAGIC ANSWER FROM ERIC.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO TAKE, BUT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE UNTIL IT'S, WE'RE STILL WAITING.
AND AGAIN, LET ME JUST SAY, MIKE, THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M HAPPY FOR YOU TO KEEP ALL YOUR CONSTITUENTS, UH, YOU KNOW, PRECINCT FOR, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER FORD, DOESN'T GAIN ONE THING BY, BY, UH, BY, UM, MOVING ANY CONSTITUENT FROM PRECINCT.
ONE IN, INTO PRECINCT FOR OUR ENTIRE INTENT IS TO FIND A WAY TO PRECINCT FOUR TO THE PROPERTY, UH, THAT THE, THAT THE EXPANSION IS BEING BUILT ON AND PROVIDE THAT ENHANCED SERVICE AND DO IT IN A FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE WAY.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, ALL THE, ALL THE STUFF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TO BE A CENTRALLY LOCATED WITH THE REDISTRICTING, I'LL GO ALL WITH THE DALLAS COUNTY LINE NOW.
AND I ENDED UP IN THE FORNEY NOW.
SO WE'RE KIND OF SKEWED TO ONE SIDE NOW, AS Y'ALL ARE NOT AS BAD, BUT CLOSE 10 MILES, WHATEVER.
SO, I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE IN THE SAME BOAT.
YOU RUN FROM VANZANT COUNTY HENDERSON COUNTY TO THE DALLAS COUNTY LINE.
WE'RE ALMOST IDENTICAL AS FAR AS OUR BREATH ACROSS THE COUNTY.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S MATURE.
JP IS LOCATED CENTRAL TO THE COUNTY, JUST LIKE THE PRECINCT FOR JP WOULD BE RIGHT.
WELL, IT'S THIS, UH, ALL THE PEOPLE FROM TOWN I HAVE TO COME SEE YOU.
AND I MEAN, A JUDGE, WHEN IT IS, IT IS KIND OF WHAT IT IS, YOU KNOW, WHETHER ANYBODY LIKES IT OR NOT, THE POPULATION IS WHAT CONTROLS IT.
MY PRECINCT, THIS TYPE OF THE MCGRAW, I HAD TO GIVE AWAY ALMOST 18,000 CONSTITUENTS TO MIKE AND TO TERRY TO SATISFY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE STATE GOVERNMENT SAYING THAT WE ALL HAVE THE SAME NUMBER OF CONSTITUENTS AND THE SAME NUMBER OF THE, AT THE TIME OF THE CONSENT, THE CENSUS WAS TAKEN NOT AS UP TODAY, CAUSE I'VE ALREADY GROWN PROBABLY ABOUT ALMOST CLOSE TO 10,000 PEOPLE.
SINCE THE CENSUS WAS TAKEN, MIKE'S GOING TO HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM AND TERRY'S GOING TO HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM.
BOTH OF THOSE AREAS ARE GOING TO GROW RAPIDLY.
IF THEY ARE BUILDING PADS AS FAST AS WE CAN SPEAK RIGHT NOW, EVERY SINGLE DAY.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE ALL THESE PEOPLE COME FROM.
YOU WOULD THINK THAT THERE'S A TOWN SITTING EMPTY SOMEWHERE, BUT I DON'T GUESS THERE IS MAYBE THE TOWNS CALLED CALIFORNIA.
I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, BUT WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
AND SO WE KIND OF HAVE TO FOLLOW THE LAW AND THE LAW SAYS THAT WE HAVE TO EXPAND THAT.
SO IT CREATES A HARDSHIP FOR FORWARD GRADES, A HARDSHIP FOR THREE IN ONE, BECAUSE THEIR AREAS ARE GOING TO EXPAND.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, THERE'S NOT A LOT WE CAN DO.
UM, MATTER OF FACT, I WAS THE ONE THAT SUGGESTED THAT WE ADD THAT ADAM ON TO THE COURTHOUSE.
UM, BECAUSE THE NEW BUILDING WOULDN'T BE TERRIBLY, TERRIBLY EXPENSIVE.
I MEAN, IT IS KINDA WHAT IT IS.
UM, I WISH THERE WAS SOMETHING YOU COULD CHANGE THE DO ABOUT IT.
UH, EVENTUALLY WE MIGHT HAVE TO HAVE TWO ACTUAL JPS IN FOUR BECAUSE, OR RN OR IN ONE, EVEN, BUT OREGON TO ORIENT TO WHAT'S TERRIBLE.
WE THOUGHT ABOUT MOVING HOURS ACTUALLY TO NORTH, BUT WE COULDN'T MOVE OUT OF THE CITY.
THERE'S A LAW REQUIRING YOU TO HAVE A JP IN
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A CITY THAT HAS 18,000 OR MORE 40 HAS 18 MORE.THEY HAVE 26,000 PEOPLE, OUR JPA, WE HAVE TO STAY IN THE MIDDLE OF 40.
SO W YOU KNOW, WE'RE STUCK THAT JP IS STUCK IN, FOR ME.
WE COULDN'T EVEN DRAW A FINGER TO COME TO OUR LINE.
YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT BRINGING THEM ALL HERE.
WE COULDN'T EVEN BRING ONE HERE.
THE NEXT JP THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO STAY IN THEIR CITY WILL BE TERRIBLE BECAUSE THEY'RE AT 17,000 AND SOMETHING ON THE CENSUS.
THEY'RE LIKE JUST A FEW HUNDRED AWAY FROM 18,000.
SO WE ALREADY KNOW THAT ONE HAS TO STAY IN THE CITY OF TERRIBLE.
SO AT SOME POINT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO EITHER HAVE ANOTHER JP, PROBABLY UP NORTH, SOMEWHERE, WINDMILL FARMS AREA OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER ONE PROBABLY IN CRANDALL.
CRANDALL WILL BE THE NEXT BLOW UP BIG CITY THAT'LL HAPPEN.
UH, THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE JUST GOING.
THAT'S WHERE THE PEOPLE, WHERE THE HOUSINGS ARE BEING BUILT AND THAT'S, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
UH, SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST DOING ECONOMICALLY WHAT'S BEST FOR YOU, THE CONSUMERS AND THE CONSTITUENTS AND THE ONES THAT ARE PAYING THE TAX AND FOOTING THE BILL FOR ALL THIS.
REMEMBER THEY ALL DO FIT THE BILL MAY TOO.
YOU KNOW, I NOTICED IT ON MINE.
I DON'T EVEN WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT.
SO, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT KIND OF GIVES ME HEARTACHE TO OPEN THAT LITTLE THING WHEN IT COMES TO ME, CAUSE WE'RE NO DIFFERENT THAN YOU ARE.
I DON'T GET TO TALK TO THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT.
I HAVE TO GET IN LINE AND IT'S LIKE, I'LL DO IT AND FILE OUT A REQUEST AND DO THE SAME THING.
THE GOOD THING IS I'M SO OLD THAT MY TAX RATES FROZEN AT LEAST, BUT APPRAISAL RATES NOT.
UM, YOU KNOW, I WISH I WISHED OUR LEGISLATOR FREEZE BOTH OF THEM FOR US.
SO THAT, SO THAT MAYBE WHEN YOU GOT TO THE AGE, MAYBE BOTH THINGS WOULD BE FROZEN AND NOTHING WOULD GO UP.
UM, BUT I'M NOT IN CONTROL OF THAT.
BUT ANYWAY, I HOPE EVERYBODY'S GETTING THEIR QUESTIONS ANSWERED AND I'M HOPING THAT MAYBE THEY CAN FIND A WAY JUST TO STREAMLINE THAT UP THE THING, BUT THE ACTUAL VOTING BLOCKS THIS POINT ACROSS THE ROAD.
I MEAN, THEY JUST, THEY, WHEN THEY, I GUESS WHEN THE CENSUS BUREAU WAS MAKING THEM AND THINGS LIKE THAT, IT WENT DOWN THE CENTER, THEY TAKE IN NUMBERS OF ADDRESSES THAT THEY HAD.
AND THEY, I GUESS THEY PICK A NUMBER.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE DOES EITHER, BUT CAUSE SOME BLOCKS ARE PRETTY BIG.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY GO ON AND PUT A MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF NUMBERS IN EACH BLOCK.
AND THEN THEY ALSO MAYBE THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF SQUARE MILES OR FEET OR SOMETHING FOR EACH BLOCK.
I HAVE NO CLUE THAT'S ABOVE OUR PAY GRADE.
UM, SO, UH, BUT THAT WAS THE ACTUAL, JUST THE BLOCKS PICKING, GOING UP 1 75 IS ALL THAT WAS, IF YOUR HOUSE GOT HOOKED INTO IT, THAT'S HOW IT HAPPENED.
AND UH, NO BLAME MIKE OR BLAME HIM BLAME THE GUY THAT WAS DOING THE CENSUS THING.
I WAS STANDING THERE WITH HIM POINTING OUT THE BLOCKS.
SO WHAT, NEITHER ONE OF THEM WERE ACTUALLY INVOLVED IN IT.
SOMEBODY, NO INTEREST IN A SENSE WAS DOING THAT TO YOU.
YOU CAN, YOU CAN BLAME ME IF YOU WANT TO, BUT YOU KNOW, UH, BUT I'LL STAY HERE UNTIL Y'ALL LEAVE.
NO, BUT, BUT NO, SERIOUSLY, UH, IT IS JUST WHAT IT IS.
AND I'M HOPING THEY'LL RESOLVE THAT ISSUE BECAUSE I KNOW HOW YOU FEEL.
I'M THE SAME WAY I LIKE TO VOTE FOR THE SAME PERSON EVER WHO IT IS THAT I LIKE, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO VOTE FOR HIM.
AND, UH, I KNOW MIKE'S PROUD TO HAVE ALL Y'ALL FOR CONSTITUENTS CAUSE YOU'RE HERE.
SO THAT MEANS A LOT, YOU KNOW? UM, AND THEY'LL FIND OUT, MAYBE WE CAN MOVE ON TO SOMETHING ELSE AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO IT.
WELL, LET ME JUST MAKE ONE LAST COMMENT.
I DID ALSO, UH, I DID ALSO ENSURE THAT THE, WE, WE CIRCULATED THIS, UH, IN THE JP OPERATIONS, UH, JP AND CONSTABLE OPERATIONS.
SO OUR, OUR JUSTICE OF THE PEACE JOHNNY ADAMS, WHO, UH, AS YOU POINT OUT SO FINE, MAN, HE'S UH, HE IS, UH, UH, IN FAVOR OF THIS PARTICULAR, UH, MOVE TO THE CRIMINAL COURTS, BUILDING WHATEVER THE MECHANISM IS, UM, DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT SET OF DISCUSSIONS, BUT, UH, THE CONSTABLE AND THE JP UNDERSTAND THE EFFICIENCY ENHANCEMENT THAT WILL TAKE PLACE, UH, ALSO SPOKE TO THE MAYOR KAUFFMAN BECAUSE SOME OF THIS IS IN THE CITY OF KAUFMAN AND HE HAD NO OBJECTION TO THIS.
SO, UM, IT'S PROBABLY TIME TO GO.
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WE'RE NOT GONNA, WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE THIS MATTER UP UNTIL WE HEAR BACK FROM ERIC, IF IT TAKES ALL DAY.[5. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider exiting public hearing and enter back into regular meeting.]
SO THE NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS WOULD BE TO LOOK FOR A MOTION TO EXIT THIS PUBLIC HEARING AND GO BACK INTO OUR REGULAR MEETING.IS THERE A MOTION TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT? MOTION? WE HAVE A MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.
IS THERE A SECOND SACRAL COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
[1. ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.]
CARRIES.NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO THE TOP OF THE AGENDA.
BEGINNING WITH ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.
I HAVE ONE ITEM, UH, TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT ON THURSDAY, THE 11TH, THERE'S A VETERANS DAY CEREMONY AT THE VETERANS PARK FOOD VENDOR.
THE MOST, MAYBE THE SECOND MOST IMPORTANT THING ABOUT THIS DAY IS THAT THE FOOD VENDORS WILL SHOW UP AT TWO 30.
RIGHT? SO SHOW UP AND GET YOUR CORN DOG AND WHO KNOWS WHAT ELSE THEY'LL BE SELLING.
AND THEN THE CEREMONY BEGINS AT FOUR 30, UH, SOMETHING REALLY SPECIAL THAT THEY'RE DOING THIS YEAR.
UM, I'M LOOKING AT YOU, PETE, YOU FORMER SUBMARINER, UH, UH, THEY'RE GOING TO BE HAVING A LIGHTING OF THE VIETNAM WALL, UH, AT DUSK.
SO THAT'LL BE SOMETHING REALLY SPECIAL.
DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE TO SHARE? OKAY.
[2. CONSENT AGENDA]
US TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.ITEM TWO, WE HAVE ITEMS A THROUGH C UH, IS YOUR COMMISSIONER WHO WOULD CARE TO SPEAK TO ANY OF THOSE ITEMS INDIVIDUALLY? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED? OH, MY GOOD MOTION.
WE HAD MOTION COMMISSIONER HUNT.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS THE DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.
SO WE'RE GOING TO SKIP ITEM SIX, UH, WAITING ON MAYBE SOME INFORMATION FROM OUR CONSULTING ATTORNEY
[7. Tandi Smith; Discuss/Consider Canvassing the November 2, 2021 Constitutional Amendment/Joint Election Results.]
AND THEN WE'LL GO ON TO TASK SMITH.SHE'S A BACK ROWER TANDY SMITH DISCUSSED CONSIDER CANVASSING THE NOVEMBER 2ND, 2021 CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT JOINT ELECTION RESULTS.
AND GENTLEMEN, ARE YOU ABLE TO SEE YOUR RESULTS A LITTLE BETTER ON ELECTION NIGHT? OH, OH, UM, YES, IT WAS OUTSTANDING IS THE, THE, THE STUFF THAT Y'ALL DID WAS REALLY FANTASTIC.
I EMAILED YOU GUYS THESE RESULTS LAST NIGHT, SO I HOPE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW.
SO I'M JUST GOING TO READ THEM ALOUD FOR COURT RECORD.
UH, PROVIDE A COPY TO THE COUNTY CLERK FOR FILING WITH TODAY'S MINUTES PROPOSITION ONE TOTAL VOTES FOR 4,094, TOTAL VOTES AGAINST NON 47 PROPOSITION TWO TOTAL VOTES FOR 27 51 AGAINST 2246 PROPOSITION THREE TOTAL VOTES FOR 38, 10 TOTAL VOTES AGAINST 1245 PROPOSITION FOR TOTAL VOTES FOR 30 97.
TOTAL VOTES AGAINST 1820 PROPOSITION FIVE TOTAL VOTES FOR 29 75 AGAINST 1938 PROPOSITION 6 45 46 FOR 4 78 AGAINST PROPOSITION 7 45 58 FOR 4 81 AGAINST PROPOSITION 8 45 92, 4, 4 35 AGAINST.
AND THOSE WERE THE RESULTS FOR THE CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT ELECTION.
ADDITIONALLY, THE COUNTY ORDERED A SPECIAL ASSISTANCE DISTRICT THREE, A SPECIAL ELECTION.
THE RESULTS FOR THAT STAND AS FOLLOWS FOUR 11 AGAINST 29 AS IT BEING ALEXA IN THERE.
YEAH, THE HOT TOPIC THIS YEAR WAS THAT SCURRY BOND.
UM, QUESTIONS FOR TANDY ABOUT THE CANVASSING OF VOTES? NO, IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT CANVAS HAS PRESENTED? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION WHERE THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER BARBER DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING I SUPPOSE.
ON THE POSTING OF THE RESULTS THAT DOES A GOOD JOB FOR THE FIRST TIME.
[8. Kristi Dickey; Discuss/Consider motion to Approve Preliminary Plat for Enchanted Oaks Located on FM 2728 andCR346inPCT3.]
UP CHRISTIE DICKEY DISCUSSED CONSIDER MOTION TO APPROVE PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR ENCHANTED OAKS LOCATED ON FM 27, 28 AND COUNTY ROAD 3 46 IN PRECINCT THREE.UM, SO THIS IS FOR INTERNET OAKS, IT'S FOR A PRELIMINARY PLAT, UH, LOCATED ON 27, 28 AND COUNTY ROAD 3 46 IN PRECINCT THREE.
UM, INTERNET WILL CONSIST OF SITE-BUILT HOMES AND APPROXIMATELY 111 LOTS.
AND SO WE'RE ASKING THE COURT JUST FOR THE APPROVAL FOR THE PRELIMINARY PLAT.
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IT DOESN'T APPEAR ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS.UH, SO WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US WOULD BE LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR ENCHANTED OAKS LOCATED ON THE FM 27, 28 AND COUNTY ROAD 3 46.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? SO MOVE, WE HAVE MOTION TO APPROVE FROM COMMISSIONER CATES.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSION? UH, JUST LIKE TO SAY, I THINK I NEED TO ABSTAIN FROM THIS SINCE THIS DIRECTLY AFFECTS ME AS A CITIZEN.
SO COMMISSIONER, BARBER'S NOT VOTING ON THIS ISSUE.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, UH, ANY MORE DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.
[9. Garrett Moore; Discuss/Consider approving the spectrum fiber installation for County Road 329, 330, 331, 336, 342, 346, 347, 348.]
UP GARRETT.MORE DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING THE SPECTRUM FIBER INSTALLATION FOR COUNTY ROAD 3 29, 3 33 31 3 36, 3 42, 3 46, 3 47 AND 3 48, A LITTLE BIT OF A MOUTHFUL FOR THE TITLE THERE.
SO SPECTRUM'S COMING THROUGH, UH, PRECINCT THREE AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE INSTALLING A HUGE CHUNK OF A HIGH-SPEED INTERNET WIRE.
THIS IS PART OF A GOVERNMENT PROGRAM TO GIVE RURAL, UH, PEOPLE MORE ACCESS TO THE INTERNET.
THIS IS THE FIRST CHUNK OF WHAT I'M GOING TO ASSUME IS GOING TO BE QUITE A BIG PROJECT.
THEY DON'T HAVE ONE AS OF RIGHT NOW, CAUSE THEY'RE STILL WORKING IN VANZANT COUNTY AT THE MOMENT.
BUT, UH, ONCE I DO HAVE ONE, I WILL INFORM YOU WHERE'S YOUR MIND? HOW MANY DO YOU HAVE? HOW MANY MILES DOES THIS AMOUNT TO YOU? DO YOU KNOW? I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MANY MILES I CAN TELL YOU.
IT'S WELL OVER 20,000 FEET, JUST THIS CHUNK RIGHT HERE.
SO, UM, IT'S BOTH GOING TO BE A MIX OF AERIAL AND BURIED GROUND WIRE.
UM, SO, UM, AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE PAMPHLETS THAT Y'ALL GOT FROM THIS, THAT THEY SHOW THE COLOR AND THEY SHOW WHERE THEY'RE CONNECTING AND WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE DROPPING DIFFERENT WIRES.
SO WILL ANY OF THIS SERVICE COME TO YOU? YES, SIR.
DID YOU HAVE TO ABSTAIN FROM THIS? I HAVE TO SAY NO, THAT'S NOT TRUE FOR THE CHILDREN.
WELL, I HOPE, I THINK WE ALL ARE HOPING TO HAVE THAT KIND OF CAPABILITY.
SO, UH, ANY QUESTIONS FOR GARRETT? OTHER QUESTIONS FOR GARRETT, IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SPECTRUM FIBER INSTALLATION ON THOSE COUNTY ROADS AS PRESENTED AND I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER BARBARA MAKES SENSE.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION, MATT BRINGING IT OVER TO US UNLESS THEY CAN ADDRESS THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
[10. Monique Hunter; Motion to Discuss/Approve moving Wayne McKenzie into the position of Chief Deputy and to post for the new position of Office Manager.]
WE'RE BRINGING THE MONIQUE D MOTION TO DISCUSS AND APPROVE MOVING WAYNE MCKINSEY INTO THE POSITION OF CHIEF DEPUTY AND TO POST FOR THE NEW POSITION OF OFFICE MANAGER.I TEASED RAELYNN AND I SAID, IT'S NOT THE RAILING SHOW TODAY.
SO, UM, WHAT I BROUGHT BEFORE YOU ARE, UH, JOB POSITIONS AND JOB DESCRIPTIONS FOR WHAT I CALL PHASE ONE OF OPTION B THAT WE APPROVED.
I NEED TO GET MY SIDE OF THE HOUSE SQUARED AWAY SO THAT WHEN WE DO FINALLY MOVE TO THOSE OPTION B, I HAVE THINGS IN PLACE.
YOU'LL HAVE, I ALSO HAVE THE, UH, UH, FINANCIAL HANDOUT OF YOU AND I HAVE ONE FROM THANK YOU.
MA'AM LET'S SEE THAT, THAT PART-TIME, UM, WAS ADDED TO THIS FINANCIAL FOR THE, UH, FIRE MARSHALL.
WHEN WE HAD DISCUSSED ON THE OPTION B THE PART-TIMER WOULDN'T BE NEEDED.
IT'S BEEN ADDED ON THAT SHEET TOO.
SO I JUST NEED A TO APPROVE AND I CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
SHE SAID SHE WANTS TO MOVE ON.
SO ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MONIQUE ABOUT THIS ITEM? NO, IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT ITEM IS PRESENTED? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.
THAT MOTION COMES FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS AS, OR SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER.
KATE'S DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THANKS FOR THE GOOD COMPLETE WORK THAT YOU ALWAYS DO, MONIQUE.
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IT DOESN'T MATTER.[11. Rayian Smith; Discuss and consider amendment to Attachment A (Scope of Services) and Attachment B (Fee Schedule) of the Professional Services Agreement between Bureau Veritas North America, Inc. and Kaufman County; utilizing Contract/RFP #21-03.]
FOR THE ONLY TIME TODAY, WE'RE GOING TO SEE RAYLAND SMITH DISCUSSING CONSIDER AMENDMENT TO ATTACHMENT A SCOPE OF SERVICES AND ATTACHMENT BEEF.THE SCHEDULE OF THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN BUREAU VERITAS, NORTH AMERICA, INC, AND KAUFMAN COUNTY UTILIZING CONTRACT RFP 2103 AS KIND OF THE SECOND HALF OF THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, FIRE MARSHALL, UH, COMBINATION.
UH, WHAT WE HAVE IS WE CURRENTLY HAD A CONTRACT WITH VERITAS TO DO REGULAR BUILDING INSPECTIONS FOR FACILITIES THAT WE HAD.
SO BECAUSE WE HAD A CURRENT CONTRACT, THEY WERE THE VENDOR THAT WE REACHED OUT TO FOR THIS ADDITIONAL SCOPE OF SERVICES OR THE FIRE MARSHALL, THESE, UH, FEES THAT ARE PROPOSED WILL BE A PASS THROUGH TO THE DEVELOPER.
UM, THERE WILL BE SOME TRAINING AND SOME ITEMS THAT WILL TAKE PLACE BETWEEN VERITAS AND THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
AND SO WHAT WE WILL DO IS WE WILL COME BACK WITH A NEW FEE SCHEDULE FOR HER DEPARTMENT, AS FAR AS MAKING SURE THAT WE INCLUDE THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEES, ET CETERA.
SO THE FEE SCHEDULE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT WILL BE OUR FEE SCHEDULE WITH THE VENDOR.
AND SO WE KNOW AT LEAST A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THAT WOULD BE A PASSWORD BACK TO THE DEVELOPER.
SO ON, THIS IS JUST A TEMPORARY DEAL UNTIL THE, TO DO FIRE MARSHAL, RIGHT? UNTIL EVERYTHING IS ESTABLISHED ON THE GROUND.
NOW, EVERYONE TO GET STARTED, HE'LL GO BACK.
BUT I BELIEVE OUR PLAN WAS THAT WE'LL KEEP THEM UNDER CONTRACT BECAUSE THINKING THAT WE MAY GET OURSELVES IN A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE SURGES OF THEY WOULD REMAIN UNDER CONTRACT, REGARDLESS OF FIRE MARSHALL OR HOWEVER THAT, THAT SETTLED OUT, THIS WILL AT LEAST ALLOW MONIQUE TO GET STARTED ON THE PLAN, FIRE MARSHALS.
HE MIGHT CHOOSE THAT WON'T HAVE THIS COMPANY.
WE DON'T MAKE HIS DECISION SO FAR, BUT THIS WILL IT'LL KEEP EVERYTHING ROLLING UNTIL THEN.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR RAYLAND? NOPE.
IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO, UH, THERE'S A MOTION TO APPROVE AMENDMENT, A SCOPE OF SERVICES AND AMENDMENT B FEE SCHEDULE AS PRESENTED IN AUTUMN 11.
NOW MAKE THAT MOTION WHERE THE MOTION COMMISSIONER HUNT.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER BARBER DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE, I SUPPOSE.
[12. Commissioner Gates; Discuss/Consider approving interlocal agreement and project agreement to now miscellaneous roads for the City of Kemp in the amount of $1190.00.]
UH, COMMISSIONER CAGE DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT AND PROJECT AGREEMENT, UH, FOR MISCELLANEOUS ROADS IN THE CITY OF CAMP IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,190.THIS IS JUST A ROUTINE IN OUR LOCAL.
UH, WE JUST SENT IT OUT EARLIER WITH THE DOCUMENTATION TO ASSIST THE CITY OF CAMP AND MOWING SEVERAL OF THEIR ROADS.
SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT THIS BE APPROVED AS SUBMITTED.
WE HAVE MOTION TO APPROVE THAT INTER-LOCAL AGREEMENT FROM COMMISSIONER CATES.
SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER BARBER DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION
[13. Commissioner Hunt; Discuss/Consider accepting work site release temporary construction easement for County Road 119-1150 Co. Rd. 119.]
CARRIES COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSED, CONSIDER ACCEPTING WORK SITE RELEASE, TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT FOR COUNTY ROAD 1 19 11 50 COUNTY ROAD ONE 19.UH, YES, THIS IS JUST A WORK SITE RELEASE TO, UH, WE'RE DOING THE DITCHES OUT THERE AND, UM, THERE'S SOME FLOODING ISSUES AND, UM, UH, PROPERTY OWNER WAS GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO LET US TAKE SOME OF THE WATER AND STUFF THROUGH HIS PLACE TO KEEP IT OFF THE ROAD.
AND IT'S JUST A WORK CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT DEAL TO ACCOMPLISH THAT MOTION TO APPROVE.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE COMMISSIONER HUNT.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
[14. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider accepting Rayian Smith's renewal for the Comptroller Contract Developer & Contract Management certification.]
UM, I WANTED TO PUT THIS ITEM ON NOT NECESSARILY REQUIRED MIDDLE ONE OF THE COURT TO BE AWARE.UM, UM, RAYLAND CARRIES A CERTIFICATION, UH, FROM THE COMPTROLLER REPUBLIC ACCOUNTS.
WE'LL ACTUALLY, I'LL READ THE ITEM.
CONSIDER ACCEPTING RAYLAND SMITH'S RENEWAL FOR THE COMPTROLLER CONTRACT DEVELOPER IN CONTRACT MANAGEMENT CERTIFICATION.
SO, UH, WE SHE'S RECEIVED A CERTIFICATION, UH, BASED ON 36 HOURS IN COMPLIANCE WITH TRAINING REQUIREMENTS SET FORTH IN TEXAS GOVERNMENT.
YOU KNOW, A LOT OF WHAT RAYLAND DOES FOR THE COUNTY IS STATUTORY SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF THE STUFF WE DO IS STATUTORY BY THE STATE OF Y'ALL NOTICE THAT.
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ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT ITEM? WHAT IS IT? DID YOU HAVE TIME TO DO THIS 36 HOURS? THAT'S NOT BAD 18 AVENUE.UH, SO, UH, LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO ACCEPT RAYLAND SMITH'S RENEWAL FOR THE COMPTROLLER CONTRACT DEVELOPER AND CONTRACT MANAGEMENT CERTIFICATION, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND MORE PUNISHMENT, BARBER DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE, THOSE OPPOSED NO MOTION CARRIES.
[15. Auditor; Discuss/Consider approving the financial reports for the months of August and September 2021.]
UH, NOW THE AUDITOR LIVE AND IN PERSON DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING THE FINANCIAL REPORT FOR THE MONTHS OF AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER, 2021.GOOD MORNING MORNING, CALL IT TO YOUR ATTENTION.
YOU HAVE TWO MONTHS KIND OF A HUGE REPORT, BUT, UM, FOR SEPTEMBER, OUR END OF OUR FISCAL YEAR, YOU SHOULD BE AT A HUNDRED PERCENT AND WE'RE AT ALMOST 94% COLLECTION IN THE GENERAL FUND.
SO WE, WE DID PRETTY GOOD ON IT.
I HOPE EVERYBODY GETS ALL THEIR BILLS IN SO I CAN CLOSE OUT AND GET STARTED.
CAUSE I'VE GOT AUDITORS CHOMPING AT THE BITS TO GET STARTED ON OUR STUFF AND GET THE BILLS IN OR GET OUT YOUR WALLET, RIGHT? YEAH.
CAUSE I'M PROBABLY GOING TO BACK DATED ANYWAY AND MAKE IT COME OUT OF THAT BUDGET UNTIL I JUST CAN'T DO IT ANYMORE.
BUT, UM, I MAKE A CORRECTION 98% COLLECTION AND ONLY 93% EXPENDITURE HAD THEIR PAGE WRONG.
BUT, UM, WE DID PRETTY GOOD IN AUGUST.
ALSO YOU SPENT ABOUT $12 MILLION IN THE MONTH OF AUGUST FOR ALL THE BILLS AND ALL THE FUNDS AND A LITTLE OVER 9 MILLION IN THE MONTH OF AUGUST FOR THOSE BILLS.
SO WERE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS REPORT IN ALL THE ROAD AND BRIDGE, GET YOUR BILLS IN.
I CAN PROBABLY FIX YOUR CONTINGENCY AND CARRY OVER IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS FOR THE AUDITOR.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FINANCIAL REPORTS FOR THE MONTHS OF AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER 21 AS PRESENTED? I THINK MIKE ON IT, DOING THAT, SHE WAS LOOKING AT MIKE LINDSEY WAS TALKING ABOUT THE BILLS.
MAYBE HE DOESN'T WANT TO, HE DIDN'T WANT TO, WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THE FIGURES FOR CONTINUOUS, BUT I WILL MAKE THE MONEY.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FINANCIAL REPORTS FROM COMMISSIONER HUNT.
IS THERE A SECOND, A SECOND SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED NO MOTION CARRIES
[16. Auditor; Discuss/Consider line-item transfers.]
NEXT UP AUDITOR DISCUSS, CONSIDER LINE ITEM TRANSFERS.WERE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE LINE OWNER TRANSFERS OR BUDGET AMENDMENTS? I'VE ALREADY HAD ONE THAT TRANSFER FOR THE PRECINCT TO CONTRACTS WAS DRUG TEST WERE SENT TO THE WRONG LINE ITEM.
THAT LINE ITEM IS OUR 10% FOR DOING ALL THE FINANCIALS.
SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE COUNTY GOT THAT MONEY.
SO I'LL PUT IT IN THERE, MISCELLANEOUS STUFF.
SO THAT'S WHAT THAT CORRECTION WAS THE QUESTIONS FOR THE AUDITOR ABOUT LONDON TRANSFERS.
IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED MOTION TO APPROVE? THE LINE OF TRANSFERS IS PRESENTED FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
THE SECOND COMMISSIONER BARBARA DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES ITEM
[17. Auditor; Discuss/Consider claims for payment.]
17.AUDITOR DISCUSS, CONSIDER CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT.
YOUR TOTAL OF BILLS FOR TODAY IS IT MILLION $720,812 AND 30 CENTS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THOSE BILLS? IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPEAL CLAIM FOR PAYMENT AS PRESENTED? I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT MOTIONS FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS FOR ACCEPTING THOSE CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND ONE COMMISSIONER KATE'S DISCUSSION.
WE HAVE A VOTING THOSE IN FAVOR.
SIGNIFY THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
[18. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider exiting regular meeting and enter executive session.]
UH, SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO NOW IS WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND SINCE WE HAVE GUESTS THAT ARE, I GUESS THEY'RE GOING TO BE HANGING OUT HERE, BACK IN THE CONFERENCE ROOM AND UH, HANG ON JUST A SECOND.I CAN'T WRITE AND TALK AT THE SAME TIME.
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UH, I NEED A MOTION TO EXIT REGULAR MEETING AND GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.SO MOOD GOT THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER CATES.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER BARBER DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES
[19. Executive Session; Pursuant to Section 551.072 of the Texas Government Code, the Commissioners Court will meet in closed session to discuss real estate negotiations.]
PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51 0.0 72 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT WILL MEET IN CLOSED SESSION TO DISCUSS REAL ESTATE NEGOTIATIONS AND WE'LL BE BACK THERE AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK WHEN WE GET DONE.
[20. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider exiting executive session and enter back into regular meeting.]
OKAY.UH, I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO LEAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION AND COME BACK INTO REGULAR SESSION.
SO I GOT THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER BARBERS OR SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER.
KATE'S DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED NO MOTION CARRIES WE'RE BACK IN REGULAR SESSION.
[21. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider taking any action as a result of executive session.]
NO ACTION TAKEN IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.OF COURSE, I DON'T HEAR ANY MOTIONS COMING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION.
UM, WE'RE GOING TO RECESS THIS MEETING.
WE'RE STILL WAITING TO HEAR FROM OUR ATTORNEY CONSULTANT.
SO WE'RE GOING TO RECESS THIS MEETING UNTIL THREE O'CLOCK.
WE HAVE A, WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING SCHEDULED FOR ONE AND WE DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW LONG THAT'S GONNA TAKE, BUT, UH, BUT I THINK OUR GOAL IS TO TRY TO GET THE, TRYING TO GET THE REDISTRICT NEW MATTER, ALL SETTLED TODAY IF WE CAN.
SO, UM, SO WE'RE GOING TO STAY IN A RECESS UNTIL THREE O'CLOCK THAT MOTION CARRIES.
NOW WE'RE GOING TO RECONVENE INTO OUR MEETING FROM THIS MORNING, BUT UH, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT WE'RE RECONVENING, BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE WAITING.
WE'RE WAITING FOR THE ATTORNEYS TO GET HERE WITH SOME DOCUMENTS.
WE HAVE, UH, WE'VE RECONVENED INTO OUR MEETING.
UH, WE'VE RECONVENED INTO OUR MEETING NOW.
ALL I NEED IS A THERE'S AN AGENDA.
[6. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider taking possible action regarding one or more alternative plans for the redistricting of County Commissioners Court precincts. The Court reserves the right to take any and all appropriate actions regarding the redistricting of Kaufman County political boundaries, including the acceptance of new boundaries for the Commissioners Court precincts, modification of any boundaries, and/or tabling the pending proposals for later consideration and/or action.]
OKAY.SO WE ARE AT ITEM SIX, UM, AND ITEM SIX IS DISCUSS, CONSIDER TAKING POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING ONE OR MORE ALTERNATIVE PLANS FOR THE REDISTRICT DISTRICT OF COUNTY COMMISSIONER COURT PRECINCTS.
THE COURT RESERVES THE RIGHT TO TAKE ANY AND ALL APPROPRIATE ACTIONS REGARDING THE REDISTRICTING OF KAUFMAN COUNTY POLITICAL BOUNDARIES, INCLUDING THE ACCEPTANCE OF NEW BOUNDARIES FOR THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT PRECINCTS MODIFICATION OF ANY BOUNDARIES AND OR TABLING THE PENDING PROPOSALS FOR LATER CONSIDERATION OR ACTION.
SO WHAT WE HAVE, AND I GUESS YOU DIDN'T PASS THESE OUT, RIGHT? SO THESE ARE THE MAPS.
SO AS YOU WERE AWARE, COMMISSIONERS, UM, WE WERE HAVING A DISCUSSION WITH SOME INPUT TODAY IN OUR PUBLIC HEARING FROM CITIZENS WHO DIDN'T WANT TO BE MOVING INTO ANOTHER PRECINCT.
UM, AND SO WE HAD OUR ATTORNEY CONSULTANT, UH, REDRAW, THIS MAP AND THIS RE THIS REDRAW, THE MAP, UH, ELIMINATES ALL BUT THREE RESIDENTS.
UM, IT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN MOVING INTO PRECINCT FOUR.
UH Y'ALL Y'ALL SEE THESE MAPS HERE.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? OH, AND, AND THEN THREE RESIDENTS.
THERE'S NO ROAD ISSUES BECAUSE THEIR OWN RIGHT.
AND SO, UM, YOU'RE SHAKING THIS, ALL THESE LITTLE MARKS HERE AND THE HOUSES AND THE BUSINESSES.
YEAH, THERE WILL BE BUSINESSES INVOLVED IN THAT TRANSITION, BUT NO RESIDENTS AND NO COUNTY ROAD AFFECTED.
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UH, SO, UM, AND THIS EFFECTIVELY DOES TOUCH THAT BUILDING LOCATION.IT DOES EFFECTIVELY TOUCH, IT ALLOWS THAT PRECINCT FOR THAT BRANCH AND PRECINCT FOUR TO GO UP AND COME INTO CONTACT WITH THE, WITH THE, THE BUILDING THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE EXTENSION.
WHEN DOES, DOES DOES A PRECINCT ONE TOUCH THE BUILDING? DOES WE CONFIRM THAT TODAY? UH, DAMN.
AND I WE'RE HAVING A CONVERSATION RIGHT NOW.
IT DOES, UH, IT, IT MEETS ACCORDING TO ERIC, THE, OR OUR ATTORNEY, HE SAID, THAT'S WHY THIS ONE CHERYL RECORD THAT IT DOES.
I THINK THE MAPS WILL PROVIDE MORE ORDER WILL BE MORE DETAIL.
BOUNCING SOMEBODY OUT AND SOMEBODY IN, SO PRECINCT ONE AND PRECINCT FOUR, WE'RE BOTH BE TOUCHING THAT BUILDING.
SO, UM, WE'RE ON ITEM SIX AND, UM, AND WHAT NUMBER? THIS ONE, WHAT? OKAY, SO THE WAY ERIC HAS REFERRED TO THAT IS WE HAD PROPOSALS THREE AND THREE, AND HE'S CALLING THE, TO MAKE CLEAR IN COURTNEY.
THIS IS A MODIFIED NUMBER THREE, MODIFIED NUMBER THREE.
IS THIS A MODIFIED NUMBER THREE OR A MODIFIED NUMBER THREE? A, IT IS FOR SURE.
I THINK THAT WE JUST MAYBE WANT TO PUT THIS EXHIBIT INTO THE COURT RECORD SO THAT IF THERE'S THAT, THAT WE ENDED UP WITH THE NUMBER THAT IS WHAT WOULD PASS.
SO, UH, IF THE COURT'S READY, I'M GOING TO READ THIS, UM, ORDER OF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
THIS IS AN ORDER ADOPTING BEFORE YOU DO THAT.
UH, I KNOW WE'RE DOING OTHER MODIFICATIONS, SO EVERYBODY'S THE MODIFICATIONS TO ONE AND TWO AND THREE.
ARE THEY ALL COPACETIC AS WELL? YES.
I SHOULD SAY NUMBER PROPOSAL, NUMBER THREE, AS MODIFIED BY OUR COUNSEL, ERIC MCGEE ON TODAY'S DATE, NOVEMBER 9TH, 2021.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE MORE SPECIFIC IF YOU'RE IN AGREEMENT COMMISSIONER.
I'M GOING TO RUN AND GET THEM IN THE BUILDING.
THERE'S A BLANK HERE AND I'M A RIDE AT THE END OF THE ORDER.
SO IT'S PROPOSAL NUMBER THREE AS MODIFIED ON TODAY IS THE NINTH.
I'M GOING TO READ THE ORDER AND THEN WE'LL TAKE A VOTE.
UH, THIS IS AN ORDER ADOPTING REDISTRICTING PLAN FOR COMMISSIONERS COURT PRECINCTS.
BE IT REMEMBERED THAT ON THE NINTH DAY OF NOVEMBER TWO, DO I NEED TO READ THIS? OKAY.
IF YOU REMEMBER THAT ON THE NINTH DAY OF NOVEMBER, 2021 CAME TO BE CONSIDERED THE ISSUE OF PERIODIC REDISTRICT OF KAUFMAN COUNTY POLITICAL BOUNDARIES.
THIS COURT HAS IN DUE TIME, GIVEN DELIBERATE CONSIDERATION TO THE LEGAL ISSUES AND OF GOVERNMENTAL ISSUES IMPOSED BY STATE AND FEDERAL LAW.
IN ADDITION, THE COURT HAS PREVIOUSLY ENTERED INTO THE MINUTES IN THE MINUTES OF THIS COURT CRITERIA, BY WHICH ANY REDISTRICTING PLAN WOULD BE CONSIDERED THE PRIOR ORDER ESTABLISHING CRITERIA BEING INCORPORATED HERE IN BY REFERENCE, THE COURT HAS COMMISSIONED AND HAS RECEIVED AN INITIAL ASSESSMENT BY QUALIFIED PROFESSIONALS EXPERIENCE IN THE FIELD OF REDISTRICTING LAW.
FOR THE PURPOSE OF MAKING A PRELIMINARY DETERMINATION OF POPULATION DISTRIBUTION BETWEEN THE FOUR COMMISSIONER COURT PRECINCTS AND THE OBLIGATION TO COMPLY WITH ONE PERSON, ONE VOTE BALANCE AS REQUIRED BY APPLICABLE STATE AND FEDERAL LAW.
THIS ASSESSMENT HAS BEEN FILED IN THE MINUTES OF THIS COURT AND IS INCORPORATED BY THIS REFERENCE AS EXHIBIT ONE INITIAL ASSESSMENT, A FINDING BASED ON THIS ASSESSMENT RECOGNIZE THE LEGAL DUTY TO REDRAW POLITICAL BOUNDARIES, TO COMPLY WITH APPLICABLE LAW.
AND A COPY OF THIS FINDING IS ENTERED INTO THE MINUTES OF THIS COURT, BY WHICH REFERENCE THIS PRIOR FINDING IS INCORPORATED INTO THE ORDER OF THE, INTO THIS ORDER OF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT EXHIBIT TWO ORDERED REQUIRING REDISTRICTING AFTER CONVENING IN PUBLIC HEARING FOR COMMENT UPON ANY AND ALL PROPOSED PLANS.
AND AFTER MEETING AN OPEN SESSION FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONSIDERING ALTERNATIVES AVAILABLE
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TO THE COUNTY FOR MODIFICATION OF EXISTING POLITICAL BOUNDARIES IN A MANNER DESIGNED TO ACHIEVE BOTH ACCEPTABLE LEVELS OF NUMERICAL BALANCE BETWEEN THE FOUR COMMISSIONERS COURT PRECINCTS AND TO PROTECT THE VOTING RIGHTS OF ALL RESIDENTS OF KAUFMAN COUNTY, THE COMMISSIONERS COURT HAS DETERMINED TO ADOPT THE REDISTRICTING PLAN ATTACHED TO THIS ORDER IN MAP AND DATA FORM, EXHIBIT THREE, PROPOSAL, NUMBER THREE, AS MODIFIED ON NOVEMBER 9TH, 2021 BY ERIC MCGEE, UH, AT A LATER DATE, THIS COURT WILL RECEIVE A MORE COMPLETE DESCRIPTION OF THIS PLAN, INCLUDING A MAP DEPICTION OF ALL POLITICAL BOUNDARIES, POLLING PLACES, ELECTION PRECINCT BOUNDARIES, AND ANY EFFECTS SUCH AS CHANGES IN COMMISSIONERS COURT PRECINCTS MAY HAVE UPON JUSTICE OF THE PEACE AND CONSTABLE PRECINCTS.THIS SUPPLEMENTAL ORDER WILL BE TAKEN UP AND CONSIDERED BY THE COURT.
AFTER PUBLIC NOTICE IS REQUIRED BY LAW.
IT IS THEREFORE ORDERED IN A JUDGED AND DECREED THAT THE REDISTRICT PLAN DEPICTED IN THE MAPS AND DATA ATTACHED TO THIS ORDER ARE HEREBY APPROVED AND ADOPTED BY THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF KAUFMAN COUNTY, TEXAS UPON FINAL APPROVAL OF THIS, OF THE SUPPLEMENTAL DATA TO BE PROVIDED AT A LATER DATE, THE REDISTRICTING PLAN PROPOSAL THREE AS MODIFIED ON NOVEMBER 9TH, 2021 BY ATTORNEY ERIC MCKEE ADOPTED BY THIS ORDER SHALL BE EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY FOR USE IN THE 2022 PRIMARY.
AND FOR ALL SUBSEQUENT ELECTIONS UNTIL CHANGED OR MODIFIED THE LATER ORDER OF THIS COURSE, THIS COURT SIGNED THIS NINTH DAY OF NOVEMBER, 2021 SIGNED BY THE COFFIN COUNTY JUDGE AND ALL FOUR PRECINCT COMMISSIONERS.
YOU'RE GOING TO SAY ONE THING BEFORE, GO AHEAD.
AND I DON'T THINK THE PERCENTAGES WAS CHANGED.
SO CAUSE THERE WAS HOW MANY PEOPLE, 400 INFECTED 300.
SO YEAH, SO THAT WOULD CHANGE THAT 1.9 DOWN TO BELOW AND THE OTHERS SO THAT, BUT IN THE COURT READING IN THE MOTION, IT DOES SAY THAT WE'LL RECEIVE A CORRECTED.
SO IF ANYBODY SEES THIS ONE, IT WILL BE CORRECTED ON THE PERCENTAGES AND IT'LL PROBABLY MAKE THEM A LOT CLOSER RATHER THAN WORDS MIKE'S WILL GO UP A LITTLE BIT IN HIS WOUND DOWN.
AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THAT EVEN AS DEPICTED, THEY'RE ALL STILL WITHIN LAWFUL AND THEY'RE ALL WITHIN THE GRACE AND ALL THAT.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT IT PROBABLY THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT PERCENTAGE AND THEN SAYING, SO I'LL SECOND THE MOTION FOR HIM.
UH, WELL I HAVEN'T, I HAVEN'T CALLED FOR THE MOTION, BUT I'LL DO THAT NOW.
IS THERE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE, THE ORDER REDISTRICTING PLAN FOR COMMISSIONERS COURT PRECINCTS AS JUST READ IN COURT AND THEN I'LL MAKE THE MOTION WE HAD THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER BARBARA DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE ANOTHER MOTION WE'RE NOT THROUGH YET.
YOU CAN'T MAKE THAT MOTION YET.
MORE OF THE OWNER WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO APPROVE THIS SUPPLEMENTAL ORDER.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
UH, WHO WANTS TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION? WE NEED TO ACT ON BOTH OF THESE OR JUST THIS ONE.
SO I GUESS I NEED TO READ THIS IN THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF COPPIN COUNTY, TEXAS, THE SUPPLEMENTAL AND FINAL ORDER ADOPTING REVISED POLITICAL BOUNDARIES, FOLLOWING REDISTRICTING OF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT PRECINCTS B.
REMEMBER THAT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF KAUFMAN COUNTY, TEXAS PREVIOUSLY ADOPTED A PLAN FOR THE REDISTRICTING OF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT PRECINCTS AS A CONSEQUENCE OF THE BOUNDARY MODIFICATIONS MADE BY THAT ORDER, VARIOUS CHANGES IN THE UNDERLYING ELECTION
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PRECINCTS WERE REQUIRED, WERE REQUIRED TO CONFORM ELECTION PRECINCT BOUNDARIES TO THE NEW COMMISSIONERS COURT PRECINCTS.IN ADDITION, THE RESULTING CHANGES TO ELECTION PRECINCTS MAY HAVE AN IMPACT UPON THE JUSTICE OF THE PEACE PRECINCTS OF KAUFMAN COUNTY, THIS SUPPLEMENTAL ORDER AND THE ATTACHED MAPS DATA AND NARRATIVE TEXT SET FORTH, THE CHANGES RESULTING FROM REDISTRICTING OF COMMISSIONER'S COURT PRECINCTS AND PROVIDES AN EXPLANATION FOR THE NECESSITY OF THE SAME.
IT IS THERE FOR ORDER TO JUDGE AND DECREED THAT THIS SUPPLEMENTAL ORDER ALONG WITH ALL PRIOR ORDERS OF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT SHALL BE CONSIDERED AS A WHOLE IN THESE ORDER SHALL CONSTITUTE THE FINAL ORDER.
THE COUNTY, THE COFFIN COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT REGARDING REDISTRICTING OF ALL KAUFMAN COUNTY POLITICAL BOUNDARIES.
TO THE EXTENT NECESSARY THIS ORDER MAY BE SUPPLEMENTED BY SUCH ATTACHMENTS IN ADDITIONAL DATA AS MAY BE REQUIRED WITHOUT THE NECESSITY OF FURTHER ACTION BY THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT LEGAL COUNSEL FOR THE COUNTY, THE FIRM OF ALISON BASS AND MCGEE LLP IS HEREBY AUTHORIZED TO MAKE SUCH NECESSARY ADDITIONS TO THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS, DESCRIPTIONS, MAPS, AND DATA CHARTS NECESSARY TO COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF STATE OR FEDERAL LAW.
THE SUPPLEMENTAL ORDER OF THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION COULD INCLUDE MAPS OF THE FOUR STATUTORY COMMISSIONERS COURT PRECINCTS MAPS OF EACH JUSTICE OF THE PEACE PRECINCT MAPS OF ELECTION PRECINCTS, A LIST OF POLLING PLACES FOR EACH ELECTION PRECINCT, IF NECESSARY A NARRATIVE EXPLANATION OF ANY OTHER CONDITION OR CIRCUMSTANCES RELEVANT IS THEREFORE ORDERED A JUDGE AND DECREED THAT THE REDISTRICT REDISTRICTING PLAN DEPICTED IN THE MAPS AND DATA ATTACHED TO THIS ORDER ARE HEREBY APPROVED AND ADOPTED BY THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF COFFIN COUNTY, TEXAS.
THIS FINAL ORDER AND PLAN ADOPTED BY THIS ORDER SHALL BE EFFECTIVE FOR THE 2022 GENERAL PRIMARY ELECTION.
AND FOR ALL SUBSEQUENT ELECTIONS UNTIL CHANGE OR MODIFIED BY LATER ORDER SIGNED THIS NIGHT, THE, OF NOVEMBER, 2021 BY THE COUNTY JUDGE AND PRECINCT COMMISSIONERS.
UM, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SUPPLEMENTAL AND FINAL ORDER ADOPTING REVISED POLITICAL BOUNDARIES FOLLOWING REDISTRICTING OF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT PRECINCTS? SO MOVE, WE HAVE THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER CATES.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED NO MOTION CARRIES AFTER BARBARA.
THE LAST, LAST ONE HERE, FINDINGS OF FACT, REGARDING POLITICAL BOUNDARIES OF KAUFMAN COUNTY, TEXAS FOLLOWING PUBLICATION OF THE 2020 CENSUS DATA IN ORDER FOR REDISTRICTING OF POLITICAL BOUNDARIES ON THE NINTH DAY OF NOVEMBER, 2021, THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF COFFIN COUNTY MET IN REGULAR CALL SESSION.
HAVING POSTED NOTICE OF SAID HEARING AND COMPLIANCE WITH CHAPTER 5 50, 1 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF COFFIN COUNTY HAS PREVIOUSLY RETAINED THE FIRM OF ALISON AND MCGEE, LLP OF AUSTIN, TEXAS TO CONDUCT AN INITIAL ASSESSMENT OF EXISTING POLITICAL BOUNDARIES OF KAUFMAN COUNTY.
FOLLOWING THE ISSUANCE OF CENSUS DATA BY THE UNITED STATES CENSUS BUREAU ATTACHED TO THIS ORDER AND INCORPORATED HERE IN FOR ALL PURPOSES BY REFERENCE IS A COPY OF THE INITIAL ASSESSMENT CONDUCTED BY ALISON BASS AND MCGEE LLP.
THIS ASSESSMENT IS BASED ON PUBLIC LAW, NINE FOUR DASH 1 7 1 DATA AS REQUIRED BY FEDERAL LAW AND IS FURTHER BASED UPON THE INFORMATION PROVIDED TO ALISON BASSETT MCGEE, LLP BY THE TEXAS LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL, OTHER OFFICIAL SOURCES OF INFORMATION AND BY KAUFMAN COUNTY, TEXAS BASED ON THIS INFORMATION, KAUFMAN COUNTY HAS A TOTAL MAXIMUM DEVIATION OF 63.29%.
THE TERM TOTAL MAXIMUM THE TERM TOTAL MAXIMUM DEVIATION IS DETERMINED BY DIVIDING THE TOTAL POPULATION OF COFFIN COUNTY BY FOUR, THE NUMBER OF COMMISSIONERS COURT PRECINCTS TO DETERMINE AN IDEAL PRECINCT SIZE.
THE ACTUAL POPULATION FOR EACH PRECINCT IS THEN DETERMINED BASED UPON THE OFFICIAL POPULATION DATA CONTAINED WITHIN THE CENSUS COUNT AS DEFINED BY POLITICAL LAW, 9 4 1 71.
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THE ACTUAL POPULATION OF EACH PRECINCT HAS COMPARED TO THE IDEAL PRECINCT SIZE AND RANGE OF DEVIATION BY PERCENTAGES DETERMINED ANY TOTAL MAXIMUM DEVIATION IN EXCESS OF 10% IS PRESUMPTIVELY UNCONSTITUTIONAL UNDER ESTABLISHED FEDERAL LAW.AS A RESULT OF THIS DETERMINATION, KAUFMAN COUNTY HAS A CONSTITUTIONAL DUTY TO REDISTRICT POLITICAL BOUNDARIES.
SO TO ACHIEVE ONE PERSON, ONE VOTE, NO MIRACLE BALANCE BETWEEN THE FOUR COMMISSIONERS COURT PRECINCTS AT A LEGALLY ACCEPTED MARGIN OF DEVIATION.
AND TO MAKE THE CHANGES THAT ARE NECESSARY TO COMPLY WITH VOTING RACKS ACT AND AN APPLICABLE STATE AND FEDERAL LAW IS, IS THERE FOR ORDER TO JUDGE AND DECREED THAT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF KAUFMAN COUNTY, TEXAS EXPRESSLY FINDS THAT IT HAS A LEGAL DUTY TO REDISTRICT.
THE PUBLIC INTEREST WILL BE SERVED BY REDRAWING THE EXISTING POLITICAL BOUNDARIES OF KAUFMAN COUNTY IN SUCH A MANNER AS TO COMPLY WITH APPLICABLE STATE AND FEDERAL LAW.
THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT HEREBY ENTERS THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS OF FACT FACT AND LAW COFFIN COUNTY AS A TOTAL MAXIMUM DEVIATION AS DEFINED IN THIS ORDER OF 63.2, 9%.
A TOTAL MAXIMUM DEVIATION IN EXCESS OF 10% IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL UNDER FEDERAL LAW COFFIN COUNTY ACTING BY AND THROUGH ITS COMMISSIONER'S COURT IS HEREBY RESOLVED TO IMMEDIATELY UNDERTAKE SUCH NECESSARILY APPROPRIATE ACTION TO ACCOMPLISH REDISTRICT OF EXISTING COMMISSIONER ACCOUNTING, COMMISSIONERS COUNTY PRECINCTS IN ANY, IN ANY INCIDENTAL MODIFICATION, EXISTING CONSOLIDATION OR NEWLY CREATED ELECTION PRECINCTS NECESSARY TO ACCOMPLISH SUCH REDISTRICTING.
THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT SHALL HERE SHALL HENCE FORTH CONVENE AND OPEN MEETINGS.
DO WE POST IT IN THE COURT IS OPEN TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT TO TAKE UP AND CONSIDER ONE OR MORE ALTERNATIVE PLANS FOR THE REDISTRICT GROUP FOR KAUFMAN COUNTY AFTER DUE CONSIDERATION OF ONE OR MORE ALTERNATIVE PLANS, COFFIN COUNTY SHOW ADOPT A PLAN DEEMED TO SATISFY LEGAL REQUIREMENTS AND WHICH IS BEST SUIT, WHICH BEST SUITS THE LEGITIMATE GOVERNMENTAL NEEDS OF COFFIN COUNTY.
THE ADOPTIVE REDISTRICTING PLAN WILL ADDRESS POLITICAL BOUNDARIES OF THE COMMISSIONERS COURT JUSTICE OF THE PEACE AND ELECTION PRECINCTS OF KAUFMAN COUNTY AND SHALL REMAIN IN EFFECT UNTIL ALTERED OR AMENDED BY SUBSEQUENT ORDER OF COMMISSIONERS COURT.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FINDINGS OF FACT REGARDING POLITICAL BOUNDARIES OF KAUFMAN COUNTY, TEXAS FOLLOWING PUBLICATION OF 2020 CENSUS DATA AS JUST READ, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.
WE HAD A MOTION COMMISSIONER BARBERS OR SECOND, SECOND, SECOND FOR COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE, THOSE OPPOSED NO MOTION CARRIES.
I DON'T WANT TO SEE ANY MORE OF THESE COMING ABOUT NOT 10 MORE YEARS.
GIVE ME ANY OTHER INPUT FROM OUR ATTORNEYS.
SHERIFF, ARE YOU GOING TO MAINTAIN LAW AND ORDER FOR US? OKAY.
I THINK WE ARE READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR NEXT ITEM.
BUT THEN ONCE YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES ALREADY, YOU DON'T NEED ME.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER CAGE DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.