Jan 25, 2022 Commissioners Court

MONCUR AND PRESENT FOR ACCEPTANCE.

OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES NEXT UP.

PAM QUARTER DISCUSSED

[3. Pam Corder; Discuss/Approve applying for funding through the Office of the Governor, Public Safety Office Criminal Justice Division, Rifle-Resistant Body Armor Grant Program, FY 2023.]

FOR APPROVAL.

APPLYING FOR FUNDING FOR THE, FROM THE OFFICE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICE, CRIMINAL JUSTICE DIVISION RIFLE RESISTANT BODY ARMOR ON THE GRANT PROGRAM FOR FYI 2 0 2, 3.

ALL RIGHT.

KIND OF EXPLAINS IT ALL.

SO I'M HERE ASKING FOR PERMISSION TO APPLY THROUGH THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE FOR 15 RAFAEL RESISTANT BODY ARMOR VEST, UH, FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, THESE VESSEL BE USED FOR THE NEW HIRES AND TO REPLACE ANY OF THE EXPIRED FEST.

THEY ARE APPROXIMATELY $545.

EACH OF COURSE EVERYTHING'S GOING UP.

UM, AND WE'LL INCLUDE THE PLATES PLATE CARRIERS, THE IDENTIFICATION PATCH.

UM, THAT'S NO COST TO THE COUNTY AND THE APPLICATIONS ARE DUE FEBRUARY.

THE CHANT.

NOPE.

SEEMS LIKE A NO BRAINER IF THEY'RE NOBODY, NO MONEY.

IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT APPLICATION? I'LL MAKE UP MOST OF THE MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

IS THERE A SECOND? NO.

SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER BARBARA DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

[4. Chuck Mohnkern; Present/Accept the Treasurer's monthly report for December 2021.]

THE TREASURES MONTHLY REPORT FOR DECEMBER OF 2021.

GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING, SIR.

COMMISSIONERS.

WE, UH, STARTED OFF THE MONTH WITH A BALANCE AND FUND 10 OF A $10 MILLION ADDED RECEIPTS OF 20 MILLION DISBURSEMENTS OF 3.8 MILLION.

SO HE WOUND UP AT THE END OF THE MONTH WITH $26.381 MILLION COMPARED TO LAST YEAR'S 9 MILLION FIVE HUNDRED AND EIGHT, FIVE HUNDRED NINETY $5,000.

WE EARNED INTEREST IN AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK OF 2000 500, 1 99.

THE EARNINGS ON OUR BALANCES IN TEXT POOL IN TEXAS CLASS 5,000 EIGHT HUNDRED AND THIRTY FOUR FORTY TWO FOR A TOTAL EARNINGS OF $8,336 AND 41 CENTS.

OUR TOTAL INVESTED IN TEXT POOL, 29,643,682 TOTAL INVESTED IN TEXAS CLASS 59 MILLION 905 0 20.

SO OUR TOTAL FUNDS INVESTED IN $89,548,703 AND 28 CENTS.

OUR TOTAL FUNDS IN AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK AT THE END OF DECEMBER 151,965,900 1943.

THE VALUE OF THE PLEDGED SECURITIES BY AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK, 258,331,130.

SO WE'RE VERY WELL COLLATERALIZED AT THE END OF DECEMBER, OUR PERCENTAGE INVESTED IS 37% AT THE END OF DECEMBER OF THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT WE HAVE PERCENTAGE IN THE BANK WAS 62.92%.

WE PROCESSED 365 RECEIPTS DURING THE MONTH FOR A TOTAL

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OF 30 MILLION, $199,148.

ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.

TREASURY IS GOING TO PRESENT FOR ACCEPTANCE TO THE TREASURER'S QUARTERLY INVESTMENT REPORT BEGINNING OCTOBER THROUGH DECEMBER, 2021.

IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE TREASURER'S REPORT FOR THE MONTH OF DECEMBER? SO MOVE WHERE THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER CASE IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER BARBARA DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED NO MOTION CARRIES AND NEXT, UH,

[5. Chuck Mohnkern: Present/Accept the Treasurer's quarterly investment report beginning October through December, 2021.]

OH, OKAY.

WE, UH, STARTED OFF THE QUARTER WITH A TOTAL IN TEXT POOL OF 30 MILLION, 149,866 TOTAL IN TEXAS CLASS OF 83 MILLION, $4,281.

WE HAD TOTAL EARNINGS DURING THE QUARTER OF A IN TEXTS POOL OF $5,439 73 CENTS.

AND IN TEXAS CLASS OF $9,458.

SO WE, UH, ENDED THE QUARTER WITH TOTAL INVESTED FUNDS IN BOTH TEXAS CLASS AND TEXTS POOL OF 89,540 89 MILLION RATHER THAN 548,700, $3 AND 28 CENTS.

ONE QUESTION, A TRUCK.

IS THIS INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE? YES, IT IS.

UM, CAUSE I'VE HAD SOME PEOPLE ASKING ABOUT THAT AND I WASN'T REALLY SURE IF IT WASN'T NANNETTE A CHANCE TO LOAD, BUT I WAS AT A MEETING IN MY PRECINCT, UH, THIS LAST WEEK AND SOME PEOPLE WERE ASKING, WHAT DO YOU DO WITH ALL THIS MONEY? SO THAT'S A GREAT EXPLANATION.

ALL THESE REPORTS ARE ON THE TREASURER'S PAGE.

SO I'LL PASS THAT ON.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE TREASURER'S QUARTERLY INVESTMENT REPORT WITH A MOTION COMMISSIONER HUNT IS HER SECOND.

I'LL SAY SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

RAYLAND SMITH DISCUSSED CONSIDER APPROVAL OF INNER LOCAL COOPERATION PURCHASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN KAUFMAN COUNTY AND THE CITY OF MANSFIELD.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

UH, THANK YOU.

DO YOUR REPORTS ARE REALLY EXTREMELY CLEAR AND WELL PRESENTED.

[6. Raylan Smith; Discuss and consider approval of Interlocal Cooperative Purchasing Agreement between Kaufman County and the City of Mansfield, Tx.]

GOOD MORNING.

UM, THIS IS JUST A STANDARD PURCHASING CO-OP WITH THE CITY OF MANSFIELD.

UM, THEY'VE REACHED OUT TO US FOR SOME OF OUR CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS THAT WE HAVE.

THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR IS GOING TO BE FOR VERITAS FOR BUILDING INSPECTIONS.

SO, UM, THEY'RE WORKING ON A LOT OF PROJECTS IN THAT AREA, SO THAT'S IT FLATTERY WHEN SOMEBODY WANTS TO COPY YOU WRITE QUESTIONS.

IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT IN OUR LOCAL COOPERATIVE PURCHASING AGREEMENT, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION FOR THE MOTION AND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND ONE COMMISSIONER CAGE DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

WELL, THIS IS THE INTERESTING TOPIC OF THE DAY COMING UP, UH, ITEM SEVEN.

OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

MA'AM

[7. Judge Richards; Discuss Kaufman County's tobacco use policy.]

THIS IS FOR DISCUSSION ONLY, UH, TO DISCUSS THE KAUFMAN COUNTY, UH, TOBACCO USE POLICY.

I SUSPECTED COMMISSIONERS ARE PROBABLY THE HEARING SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS AROUND.

UM, THE ISSUE SEEMS TO BE THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY WHO SAY THAT THEY DIDN'T KNOW THAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO, UH, PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION THAT WOULD HELP THEM AVOID THAT $25 FEE OR DEDUCTION, I GUESS YOU WOULD CALL IT.

UM, SO I TALKED TO THE, I TALKED TO THE TREASURER, THE HR DIRECTOR, AND YOU KNOW, WHAT I DISCOVERED FROM HIM IS THAT WE'VE THAT THE HR DEPARTMENT SENT OUT, I THINK 12 EMAILS IN BETWEEN NOVEMBER OF 20 AND OCTOBER OF 21.

SO, UH, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THEM, THEY CONTAIN INFORMATION ABOUT THIS.

WE DO HAVE SOME EMPLOYEES WHO DON'T HAVE EMAIL ADDRESSES.

UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ASSUMPTION IN THIS IS.

OTHER THAN THAT, WE WOULD, I GUESS MAYBE WOULD THINK THAT THE DEPARTMENT, THE SUPERVISOR OR WHATEVER WOULD NOTIFY WHERE THEY WOULD KNOW THAT THEY'RE THEIR ROAD CREW GUYS, FOR EXAMPLE, A LOT OF THEM WERE, MOST OF THEM PROBABLY DON'T HAVE EMAIL ADDRESSES, BUT SO, UM,

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IT'S REALLY KIND OF BROUGHT DOWN A LOT OF QUESTIONS TO ME.

AND I JUST WANT TO OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS CAME ABOUT AND YOU KNOW, A LOT OF US HAVE, UH, I'M CERTAINLY NOT A TOBACCO USER, BUT A LOT OF US HAVE OTHER BAD HABITS THAT PROBABLY ARE NOT VERY HEALTHY, BUT YOU KNOW, WE DON'T PENALIZE ANY OF THOSE OTHERS.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S GOT SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT ALL THIS.

I ACTUALLY AGREE THAT WE WON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR BAD HABITS ARE FIRST.

OH, WELL, I HAPPENED TO BE THE ONE AND ONLY INDIVIDUAL IN THE HOME WORLD HAS NONE.

NOW, IF YOU BELIEVE THAT I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF PLAN I NEED TO SAY, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT, THAT WE SHOULD BE INVOLVED IN PEOPLE'S PERSONAL HABITS.

I'M NOT THEIR PARENTS.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND UM, I THINK ME MUSIC, MEXICAN DISGUST, THAT I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S JUST PROPER, YOU KNOW, UH, LIKE THE WELLNESS DAY MOVED TO DO AWAY WITH CHARGING THEM FOR THAT.

I THINK THE SAME THING ON THIS, I, BECAUSE WE KNOW THE INSURANCE COMPANIES I'VE TALKED TO BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD, I'VE FOLLOWED UP AND WENT, TRYING TO FIND X AND WHERE THE MONEY GOES, THE, UH, THEN IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY GO TO THEM.

SO, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF THE WHOLE STATE AT BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD IS DOING THE WHOLE STATE AND IT'S NOT GONNA AFFECT US ONE WAY OR THE OTHER UNTIL EVERYBODY QUIT SMOKING THE DAY THAT EVERYBODY QUIT SMOKING, THEN THEY'RE GOING TO START CHARGING YOU MORE BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAS CANCER.

THEY'RE ALWAYS GONNA FIND THE REASON TO CHARGE US MORE MONEY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

AND I'M JUST NOT, I'M JUST NOT SURE THAT WE NEED TO BE CHARGING EMPLOYEES PERSONALLY.

THAT'S JUST THE WAY I BELIEVE.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE HURTING YOURSELF ENOUGH.

I'M NOT WILLING TO KEEP CONTINUE HURTING YOU.

SO, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW EVERYBODY ELSE FEELS, BUT I MEAN, I JUST, UH, I JUST DON'T FEEL IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD NEED.

I THINK, I THINK THAT'S ONE THING WE CAN ACTUALLY DO A WITH.

WELL, I AGREE WITH YOU SKIED.

UM, I RECEIVED A FEW CALLS ABOUT THIS AS WELL AND WHAT THE FOLKS WERE TELLING ME, OUR EMPLOYEES WERE SAYING THAT THEY WERE JUST CONFUSED IF THEY WERE NOT A SMOKER, DID THEY HAVE TO REGISTER THAT THEY WEREN'T.

AND THEN THEY SAID THAT THEY DIDN'T AND, UH, THEY GOT CHARGED THE FEE.

AND, UH, SO I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO DO ANYTHING, OUR EMPLOYEES, WE SHOULD GIVE THEM AN INCENTIVE, YOU KNOW, TO STAY WELL AND, UH, AND NOT PUNISH THEM BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, UH, THE JUDGE AND I WERE DISCUSSING THIS BRIEFLY EARLIER THIS MORNING, AND I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I LET'S SAY WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE OVERWEIGHT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEY HAVE A CONDITION WHERE THEY, THEY CAN'T HELP IT.

YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT RIGHT TO PUNISH THEM FOR THAT.

AND I DON'T THINK IT'S ANY MORE RIGHT TO PUNISH SOMEBODY THAT MAYBE HAS A BAD HABIT.

I MEAN, THEY'RE ADULTS, THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

AND, UM, WE DON'T, WE DON'T PUNISH FOR DRINKING.

NO.

SO I THINK FEW OF US, RIGHT? YEAH.

SO THERE YOU GO.

IT'S NOT REALLY WATER.

HEY, WELL, IT'S DEPENDS ON WHERE YOU GET THE WATER.

IT'S NOT TOO EARLY FOR THAT, BUT, UH, NO.

UM, I'M JUST SAYING THAT IT, IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE, WE CAN'T BE EVERYBODY'S PARENTS.

AND, UH, WHEN DID THIS START? THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

WHAT'S WHAT'S THE HISTORY OF THIS POLICY, MADAM AUDITOR.

ALL RIGHT.

THE HISTORY OF IT WAS STARTED TO, AS AN INCENTIVE TO KEEP PEOPLE HEALTHY.

THEY USED TO HAVE TAC COME DOWN AND DO A BIG PROJECT AND THEY'D GIVE WARRANTS AND STUFF FOR PEOPLE THAT WERE EATING HEALTHY, THAT WERE EXERCISING, THAT WAS DOING THE STEPS.

AND THEY EVEN PROVIDED THE LITTLE METERS TO GET THAT.

WELL, THEN THEY STARTED SAYING, WELL, YOUR INSURANCE IS GOING UP BECAUSE YOU HAVE SOME BAD CLAIMS BECAUSE OF SMOKERS.

SO THEY DID THAT INCENTIVE THAT IF YOU DIDN'T SMOKE, YOU WERE CLEAR IF YOU DID, AND YOU SIGNED THAT PAPER SAYING YOU ARE, THEN THEY TOOK THE $25.

I USED TO, I PAID IT EVERY MONTH.

THEN WHEN I QUIT, I STILL HAD TO FILE OR THEY WOULD HAVE TOOK IT OUT OF MY CHECK BECAUSE THE EMAIL DOES SAY THAT, BUT THAT'S THE HISTORY.

AND IT'S, IT STARTED PROBABLY BACK IN LIKE 13 OR 14.

SO IT'S BEEN A FEW YEARS.

GOES INTO OUR GENERAL FUND.

IF I UNDERSTAND, RIGHT.

SO EDUCATE ME IF I'M WRONG HERE, THE $25 DOES NOT GO TO THE INSURANCE COMPANY.

THE PREMIUMS THAT THEY GIVE US DOES NOT REFLECT THIS $25 IN ANY WAY, THE $25 JUST

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RIGHT? SO OUR INSURANCE PREMIUMS, WASN'T THE COST TO US TO ENSURE OUR EMPLOYEES IS GOING TO STAY THE SAME, WHETHER WE DO THIS OR NOT.

SO I I'M, I'M KINDA AGREE WITH WHAT EVERYBODY'S SAYING.

I MEAN, IF WE'RE MAKING AN IMPACT ON WHAT IT WAS COSTING, THE COUNTY, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS, THE INSURANCE WAS COSTING US AND THEN MAYBE WE COULD LOOK AT IT A DIFFERENT WAY, BUT THERE NO, NO BENEFIT WHATSOEVER, OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, $25.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT THAT'S ENOUGH INCENTIVE TO NOT TO CHANGE A HABIT.

SO I KIND OF AGREE WITH LIKE THE COST OF CIGARETTES IS $25 A PACK.

IT'S NOT MAKING IT A HABIT, WHEREAS YOU'RE NOT GOING TO CHARGE THEM $25 AND JAMES DAMN IT.

SO, BUT IT JUST DOESN'T INFLUENCE OUR COST OF OUR PREMIUMS. SO I ALSO KNOW THAT WE USED TO GET A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY BACK, UM, FOR HEALTHY COUNTY STUFF.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS PART OF IT.

THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING TO ADD.

WE GOT, WE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF INCENTIVE BACK FROM TACK ON THE, ON THE WELL, MR. MANCAR TO ANYTIME YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO CONTINUE, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS.

IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T KNOW OR YOU WANT TO ADD, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO DO SO.

WELL, YEAH.

I ACTUALLY TALKED TO BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD AND YOU KNOW, UM, FIVE YEARS AGO, I DON'T KNOW THIS THAT'D BE AGAIN.

AND THEY TOLD ME THAT THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

AND I SAID, WELL, I SAID, I DON'T, I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.

AND SO WHEN I FOUND THAT WHEN THE MONEY GOES IN GENERAL FUND, I SAID, WELL, WE OUGHT TO CUT IT OUT.

IF, IF WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THE MONEY AND PUT IT IN A SEPARATE ACCOUNT AND IN DIVIDED UP AMONGST ALL THE EMPLOYEES THAT DIDN'T SMOKE, THEN YOU'D HAVE AN INCENTIVE, BUT WHO'S GOING TO KEEP UP WITH THIS NIGHTMARE AND, YOU KNOW, JOIN THOSE THAT DON'T SMOKE.

AND THEN PRETTY SOON THEM, THERE WOULDN'T BE NO MONEY THAT DISTRIBUTED, BUT THAT'S JUST TOO MUCH TO MESS WITH THEM TOO MUCH TO INCENTIVIZE.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT POLICY.

IT WAS THIS KIND OF SAME INCENTIVE THAT WAS DONE, THAT YOU GO BY, I THINK MARCH 31ST, AND YOU GO HAVE YOUR FISCAL WITH YOUR DOCTOR.

IF YOU DIDN'T, YOU PAID $25.

THAT WAS THE BIGGEST THING.

IT WAS THE SAME, SAME IDEA TO TRY TO GET PEOPLE, HAVE THAT INCENTIVE TO BE HEALTHIER.

WELL, I GET IT.

AND, AND I WISH THAT ALL, EVERYBODY WOULD DO THAT, BUT WE ALL KNOW WE DON'T AND WE WON'T, AND YOU'LL GET AN EXERCISE CAKE FOR THE FIRST PART OF THE YEAR AND WORK FOR THE FIRST THREE WEEKS.

CAUSE YOU'VE SWORN AN AFFIDAVIT TO THE NEW YEAR'S RESOLUTION.

AND THEN BY FEBRUARY YOU SAY WHAT? OH, WELL, OKAY, I'LL DO IT AGAIN NEXT YEAR.

I JUST WANTED Y'ALL TO KNOW.

THANK YOU.

WELL, THERE'S ANOTHER ISSUE, WHETHER I'VE, LIKE I SAID, I RECEIVED A FEW COMPLAINTS FROM, UH, SOME SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEES THAT HAD IT TAKEN OUT OF THEIR CHECK AND THEY WERE, WERE NON-SMOKERS.

RIGHT.

AND, UH, SO I GUESS WE NEED TO LOOK INTO WHAT WE COULD DO TO REIMBURSE THEM ON THEIR NEXT CHECK OR SOMETHING.

IS THAT SOMETHING WE NEED TO CONSIDER TOO? CAUSE IF THEY, I SAID, IF YOU DIDN'T GO ONLINE AND FILL THAT PAPERWORK OUT WITH STATIC, IT WOULD BE A DEDUCTION.

AND THAT'S HOW IT HAPPENS.

WERE SEVERAL THAT CAME OUT.

YEAH, I WOULD SAY THAT'S THE ONLY THING WE CAN DO.

THERE'S, I'VE GOT A STACK OF THEM.

I MEAN, THERE WAS A BUNCH OF THEM AND, AND THEY DIDN'T SEEM UNCLEAR TO ME, BUT I, YOU KNOW, UM, I ALREADY KNEW THE ANSWER WHEN I STARTED READING.

SO, UM, WELL, AND YOU KNOW, AND WE ARE A NON-SMOKING COUNTY, SO YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO SMOKE ON THE JOB IN THE, IN THE, IN THE BUILDINGS OR IN VEHICLES ACTUALLY.

YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED.

WE ARE, WE ARE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, UH, TALK THEM OUT OF SMOKING AND TALKING THEM OUT OF TOBACCO USE.

SO, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S THIS WHERE WE SHOULD BE.

WE SHOULDN'T BE ALSO CHARGING THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE SMOKING AT HOME CHARGING BY NOT SMOKING.

SO, UM, I JUST PUT THIS ON FOR DISCUSSION, CAUSE I DIDN'T SEE THE URGENT.

I MEAN, I DIDN'T KNOW IF ANYBODY WANTED TO DO MORE LOOKING INTO OUR GROUP RESEARCH OR WHATEVER.

WE WERE GOING TO PULL THE PLUG ON THIS PROGRAM OR STOP DEDUCTING THIS $25.

THEN THE NEXT QUESTION IS GOING TO BE, UH, EFFECTIVE.

WHEN, AND ARE WE GOING TO, I MEAN, BECAUSE YOU GOT PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN PAYING THIS FOR YEARS APPARENTLY.

SO WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT THAT? ARE WE GONNA, WE'RE GOING TO STOP DEDUCTING IT NEXT MONTH AND THAT'S THE END OF IT OR

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I MEAN, IT JUST STOPPED BECAUSE IT WAS POLICY.

SO I DON'T, IT'S NOT ILLEGAL, SO I'M NOT, I DON'T, I DON'T WORK FOR REFUNDS EXCEPT FOR SOMEBODY THAT DOESN'T SMOKE AND NEVER HAS SMOKED.

AND WE SOMEHOW, OR ANOTHER MAYBE, BUT WHAT I THINK, WHAT IF THEY DON'T SMOKE, THEY'VE NEVER SMOKED, BUT THEY DIDN'T FILL OUT THE FORM EITHER BECAUSE THEY JUST DIDN'T DO IT.

OR BECAUSE THEY SAY THEY DIDN'T GET THE EMAIL OR THEY DIDN'T, I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, THAT'S, UH, HOW MANY, I'M SORRY, DAVE, YOU'RE GOING DOWN A BAD PATH.

IF YOU START REFUNDING MONEY OR THAT SITUATION, I THINK IT'S MUCH BETTER.

THERE'S THIS QUICK STOP IT.

SO YOU WILL SEE THAT ON, UNLESS ANYBODY HAS ANY OTHER COMMENTARY ON THAT.

YOU WILL SEE THIS DISCUSSING CONSIDER ON NEXT TUESDAY'S AGENDA.

AND I SEE ANNABEL OVER THERE WRITING.

I THINK, I THINK A LOT OF, WELL, I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL BE HAPPY OVER IT AND I'M SORRY THAT HE MIGHT GOT DEDUCTED OUT OF THEIR CHECK.

THEY DIDN'T DESERVE IT, BUT, BUT I THINK SHE'D RIDE.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO GO DOWN THAT PATH.

UM, YOU KNOW, CAN WE JUST, UH, CAN WE JUST ASK CHUCK AND IN THIS INTERIM WEEK TO REACH OUT, UH, OR HAVE HR, PARDON ME, REACH OUT TO, TO THE INSURANCE PROVIDER AND JUST AT LEAST FLOAT THE QUESTION TO ENSURE THAT ACTUARIAL TABLES, ANYTHING LIKE THAT ARE NOT GOING TO BE ADJUSTED IF THIS PROGRAM ENDS.

I CAN HAVE HIM START THAT.

I DID ASK THAT QUESTION LAST FALL.

AND I WAS TOLD THAT, UH, IT WOULD HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO EFFECT I'VE SHOWED HER DRESS.

MOVE ON AND GO TO THE FUN PART OF THE MEETING.

SO WE DIDN'T, WE'LL JUST

[8. Auditor; Discuss/Consider line-item transfers.]

AND WE'LL GO TO THE AUDITOR AND DISCUSSING, CONSIDERED LON WERE TRANSFERS.

YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LINE UNDER TRANSFERS AFTER NO QUESTION ABOUT LINE TRANSFERS.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE VIOLENT TRANSFERS IS PRESENTED.

OH, MIKE MCGEE, WE HAD THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS IS OUR SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER BARBER DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

ITEM NINE BACK TO THE AUDITOR.

OPPOSED.

NO MOTION CARRIES

[9. Auditor; Discuss/Consider claims for payment.]

DISCUSS, CONSIDER CLAIM FOR PAYMENT, YOUR CLIENTS, YOUR PAYMENT, OR 2,679,000 NINE HUNDRED AND SIXTY TWO EIGHTY NINE, TWO 0.2 MILLION OF THAT WAS FOR YOUR FACILITIES BOND ISSUE.

AND THEN YOU HAD A PAYROLL OF 1,000,430 $6,124 AND 27 CENTS.

TOTAL CLAIMS OF 4 MILLION, $116,087 AND 16 CENTS.

QUESTIONS ABOUT CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT.

IF THERE ARE NONE, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT AS PRESENTED? SO MOVE GOT THAT MOTION WITH COMMISSIONER CAGE.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER BARBARA DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE OPPOSED.

NO MOTION CARRIES.

YOU ARE ENTIRELY WELCOME.

ITEM 11, UH, PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51 0.072 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.

THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT WILL MEET IN CLOSED SESSION.

[10. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider exiting regular meeting and enter executive session.]

I'M SORRY.

I NEED A MOTION TO EXIT REGULAR SESSION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

WE HAVE THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES

[11. Executive Session; Pursuant to Section 551.072 of the Texas Government Code, the Commissioners Court will meet in closed session to discuss real estate negotiations.]

WE'RE IN PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51 0.072 OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING CLOSED SESSION TO DISCUSS REAL ESTATE NEGOTIATIONS AGAIN.