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THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE KAUFMAN COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT IS CALLED TO ORDER.TODAY IS TUESDAY, MARCH 15TH, 2022.
AND WE'RE IN THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING ROOM IN THE COURTHOUSE ANNEX AS ALWAYS, WE'LL START OFF OUR MEETING WITH AN INVOCATION.
AND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS GOING TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE IS PLEASE STAND.
WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THE BLESSINGS OF THIS LIFE.
WE PARTICULARLY THANK YOU FOR THIS BEAUTIFUL SUNNY DAY.
WE ASK THAT YOU GUIDE THOSE, ALL OF THOSE, UH, WHO WORK AT THE COUNTY AND MAKE, HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS ON BEHALF OF OUR CITIZENS AND ASK THAT YOU, UH, GIVE US WISDOM TO, UH, TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
WE PRAY TODAY FOR THE PEOPLE OF UKRAINE AND, UH, ALL THOSE SURROUNDING COUNTRIES THAT ARE DEALING WITH THE REFUGEE CRISIS.
UH, WE PRAY FOR A RESOLUTION, A PEACEFUL RESOLUTION TO THAT SITUATION, GARDEN PROTECT THOSE WHO PROTECT US IN JESUS NAME, AMEN AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD JUSTICE PLAY TWO LEAVES.
THE TEXAS ONE CAN SAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WELCOME TO THE VISITORS HERE WITH US TODAY BECAUSE A COUPLE OF OLD FRIENDS OUT THERE THAT I'VE SEEN THAT, UH, IF THEY KEEP GROWING THOSE, THOSE BEERS, I'M NOT EVER GOING TO RECOGNIZE THEM AGAIN.
[1. ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.]
IS ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.I DON'T HAVE ANY CORRESPONDENCE TO SHARE.
[2. CONSENT AGENDA]
HEARING? NONE WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.ITEM TWO, WE HAVE TWO ITEMS THAT CAN BE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
UM, DOES ANY COMMISSIONER CARE TO, UM, CARE TO BRING ONE OF THOSE FOUR? DID YOU JUST WANT TO CONSIDER THEM AS ONE UNIT? IF SO, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION WHERE THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? NO MOTION CARRIES.
I, I SHOULD'VE SAID WHEN WE STARTED THE MEETING THAT WE DO HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT, UH, COMMISSIONER BARBARA IS UNABLE TO BE WITH US.
AND COMMISSIONER CATES IS, UH, JOINING US TODAY BY A CONFERENCE CALL ITEM
[3. Constable Woodall; Discuss/Approve the deputization of Gary Prox for Kaufman County Pet. 3 Constable's Office.]
THREE, CONSTABLE WOODALL, DISCUSS FOR APPROVAL.THE DEPUTIZATION OF GARY PROX FOR KAUFMAN COUNTY PRECINCT THREE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE MORNING.
UM, WE, UH, AFTER A BACKGROUND CHECK AND REFERENCES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, UM, GARY WAS SELECTED BY A BOARD OR A BOARD AT THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE AND I'M HERE TO GET THE DISSERTATION APPROVED.
CITY OF TERRELL SHOWED UP TO SUPPORT GARY.
SO, UH, THANK ALL OF THEM FOR COMING.
UH, QUESTIONS FOR CONSTABLE WOULD ALL, IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE DEPUTIZATION OF GARY PROXY FOR COFFIN COUNTY PRECINCT TAKE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.
WE HAD A MOTION COMMISSIONER HUNT.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING I WAS SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT MOTION CARRIES.
[4. Constable Johnson; Discuss/Approve the deputation of Timothy Jordan as Deputy Constable with Kaufman County Pet. #2 Constable's Office]
CONSTABLE JOHNSON DISCUSSED FOR APPROVAL, THE DEPUTIZATION OF TIMOTHY JORDAN AS DEPUTY CONSTABLE WITH KAUFMAN COUNTY PRECINCT TO CONSTABLE'S OFFICE.GOOD MORNING, MR. JORDAN COMES FROM A UNIVERSITY PARK POLICE.
UM, HE'S BEEN OVER THERE FOR TWO YEARS AND THEY'RE GOING THROUGH A CHANGE.
UM, AND AFTER DOING, UH, MR. JORDAN'S BACKGROUND, UM, AND HIS EXTENSIVE HISTORY THAT HE HAS IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, WE KNOW HE'D MAKE A GREAT ASSET TO THE DEPARTMENT.
UM, SO WE'RE LOOKING TO HIRE HIM ON FULL-TIME FOR AN OPEN POSITION THAT WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR CONSTABLE JOHNSON.
IF NO QUESTION QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE DEPUTIZATION OF TIMOTHY JORDAN FOR CONSTABLE DEPUTY CONSTABLE FOR PRECINCT TWO? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION WHERE THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
[5. Constable Johnson; Discuss/Approve Deputy Timothy Jordan to fill a vacant approved full-time position with Kaufman County Pet. #2 Constable's Office contract patrol for the Travis Ranch patrol contract.]
JOHNSON DISCUSSED IT FOR APPROVAL.UH, DEPUTY TIMOTHY JORDAN TO FILL A VACANT APPROVED
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FULL-TIME POSITION WITH COFFIN COUNTY PRECINCT TWO CONSTABLE'S OFFICE CONTRACT PATROL FOR THE TRAVIS RANCH PATROL CONTRACT.SO THIS IS ACTUALLY A CORRECTION ON IT.
TRAVIS RANCHES NO LONGER EXISTED.
IT IS MERGED INTO MUD FIVE FOR THAT WAS PASTOR COMMISSIONER SKORT.
UM, BUT MR. JORDAN IS ACTUALLY, UH, FILLING A POSITION THAT WAS ALSO CREATED AND APPROVED AND A PASTOR COMMISSIONER'S COURT LAST BUDGET CYCLE.
THIS HAS BEEN AN OPEN POSITION, SO IT'S BEEN KIND OF DIFFICULT TO FIND PEOPLE.
UM, BUT WHEN WE DO FIND THE GOOD ONES, WE TRY TO SNATCH THEM UP AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE.
SO IS THE, IS THE POSITION FOR MUD FIVE? IS IT A, IS IT A PATROL CONTRACT POSITION OR IT IS, IT IS FOR MUD FIVE.
AND THEY'RE STILL TREVA TRANS CLAIM ON THE BASE ALL MUD BATH.
RIGHT? IF THERE ARE MORE QUESTIONS FOR CROSSVILLE JOHNSON, IS THERE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE A DEPUTIZATION OF TIM JORDAN TO FILL A VACANT APPROVED FULL-TIME POSITION WITH THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE FOR CONTROL PATROL CONTRACT FOR MUD FIVE? YEAH.
I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION WHERE THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE OPPOSED.
[6. Chuck Mohnkern; Discuss/Consider renewal of Affordable Care Act Reporting and Tracking Service agreement through the Texas Association of Counties Health and Employee Benefits Pool.]
NEXT UP, CHUCK MONCUR, DISCUSS CONSIDERATION RENEWAL OF AFFORDABLE CARE ACT REPORTING AND TRACKING SERVICE AGREEMENT THROUGH THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES, HEALTH AND EMPLOYEES, BENEFITS POOL.GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHY I'M HERE TO GET A APPROVAL ON A RENEWING.
OUR PARTICIPATION IN THAT PROGRAM WITH TAC, THEY PROVIDE OUR 10 95 C FORMS FOR US EACH YEAR.
AND IF WE GET THIS BACK TO THEM, BY THE END OF THIS MONTH, IT DOESN'T COST US ANYTHING.
I LIKED THE LAST PART OF HIS THING.
SO THIS IS YOUR, THIS IS IN YOUR ROLE AS HR DIRECTOR.
MOSTLY WE SEE YOU WITH TREASURER'S REPORT YES.
WEARING A DIFFERENT HAT TODAY, OR LACK OF ONE, UH, QUESTIONS FOR MR. MANCHA.
IF THEY'RE NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO RENEW THAT AFFORDABLE CARE ACT REPORTING AND TRACKING SERVICE AGREEMENT AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
WE HAD A MOTION COMMISSIONER HAUNT.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
NEXT ITEM IS COMMISSIONER CAGE
[7. Commissioner Cates; Discuss/Consider approving Resolution for Annexation of East Market by the City of Mabank.]
DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING RESOLUTION FOR ANNEXATION OF EAST MARKET BY THE CITY OF MAY BANK COMMISSIONER.KATIE, ARE YOU ABLE TO GIVE US THAT REPORT? YES.
ARE YOU ABLE TO HEAR ME GOOD? YES, SIR.
YES, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS JUST A STREET THAT, UH, HAS, UH, BASICALLY BEEN, UH, ENCOMPASSED BY THE GROWTH IN THE CITY OF MAY BANK AND, UH, THROUGH MUTUAL AGREEMENT.
THE CITY IS INTERESTED IN TAKING THAT WITHIN THEIR CITY LIMITS AND, UH, TAKING OVER MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITIES FOR THAT ROAD.
AND WE BELIEVE THAT TO BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE AREA QUESTIONS FOR COMMISSIONER KATE'S, UH, COMMISSIONER, WOULD YOU CARE TO MAKE THAT INFORMED OF EMOTION? SURE.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT THE EAST MARKET BE APPROVED FOR ANNEXATION BY THE CITY OF MAYBANK.
WE HAVE THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER CASE.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED NO MOTION CARRIES.
[8. Commissioner Cates; Discuss/consider approving Resolution for Annexation of Martin Lane by the City of Combine]
AND BACK TO COMMISSIONER CAGE DISCUSSED, YOU CAN CONSIDER APPROVING RESOLUTION RESOLUTION FOR ANNEXATION OF MARTIN LANE BY THE CITY OF COMBINE.EXACT SAME, UH, EXACT SAME SCENARIO.
THIS WAS, UH, UH, HE WROTE THAT, UH, IS NOW BEST SERVED BY THE CITY OF COMBINED DUE TO ITS GROWTH, UH, AND THEIR INTEREST IN IT.
AND WE BELIEVE THAT THAT'S THE, UH, THE BEST RESOLUTION FOR THE AREA AND ITS RESIDENTS.
SO I'D MAKE A MOTION THAT, UH, THAT, UH, IT'D BE APPROVED AS WRITTEN, UH, COMMISSIONER AND KATE'S MOVES TO APPROVE THAT ANNEXATION HAS PRESENTED IN NUMBER IN THE ITEM EIGHT.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES
[9. Raylan Smith; Discuss and consider approval of Amended Subcontract between Kaufman County and Freese & Nichols, Inc. to perform Kaufman Countywide Drainage Study, as outlined in the approved Flood Infrastructure Fund (FIF) grant, as awarded by TWDB.]
ITEM NINE.RAYLAND SMITH DISCUSSING CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AMENDED SUBCONTRACT BETWEEN COFFIN COUNTY AND FREESE AND NICHOLS TO PERFORM CALL FROM AN
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COUNTYWIDE DRAINAGE STUDY AS OUTLINED IN THE APPROVED FLOOD INFRASTRUCTURE FUND GRANT AS AWARDED BY TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD THE MORNING.UH, SO I THINK THAT, UH, THIS IS THE FINAL AMENDMENT TO THE FREESE AND NICHOLS CONTRACT FOR R F I F GRANT.
UM, IS THIS THE SAME THING THAT WAS IN OUR PACKET OR IS THIS BEEN AMENDED, UH, ANNABEL.
MIGHT'VE SENT THAT OUT TO YOU.
I SEND IT OVER TO ANNABEL ON MONDAY, SO YEAH.
UM, SO IT WAS JUST SOME WORDING THAT NEEDED TO BE CHANGED.
THESE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS BY THE TEXAS WATER BOARD.
UM, IT CLEAR, CLEARS UP SOME OF THE LANGUAGE ABOUT THE GRANT AGREEMENT, EXPIRATION DATE, AND ALSO CHANGES, UM, THE INVOICING TO TIME RATHER THAN PERCENT COMPLETE.
SO THOSE ARE THE TWO CHANGES WITHIN THE CONTRACT AND IT WAS FOR A TEXAS WATER BOARD APPROVAL QUESTIONS FOR RAYLAND, IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT AMENDED CONTRACT AS PRESENTED IN NINE? HOW MIGHT THE MOTION WHERE THAT MOTION OF COMMISSIONER HUNT, IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
UH, THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES, UH, ITEM 10,
[10. Raylan Smith; Discuss and consider approval of additional department credit card for Road & Bridge Precinct #3.]
RAYLAND DISCUSSING CONSIDER APPROVAL OF ADDITIONAL DEPARTMENT CREDIT CARD FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE PRECINCT THREE.UH, WE RECEIVED A REQUEST FROM PRECINCT THREE TO ADD A CARD TO THEIR CURRENT ACCOUNT.
THIS WOULD NOT INCREASE THE CREDIT AMOUNT, UM, BUT THEY ARE REQUESTING AN ADDITIONAL FOR PRECINCT.
NO, IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT ADDITIONAL CREDIT CARD FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE THREE? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES AND BACK TO REILAND ITEM 11,
[11. Raylan Smith; Discuss and consider consulting services budget, Phase I & II approval for Design & Operation of a Proposed Juvenile Detention Center.]
DISCUSSING CONSIDER CONSULTING SERVICES, BUDGET PHASE ONE INTO APPROVAL FOR DESIGN AND OPERATION OF A APPROVAL DESIGN AND OPERATION OF A PROPOSED JUVENILE DETENTION CENTER.WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS THE ESTIMATED PROJECTED TIME AND THE DIFFERENT PHASING FOR A CONSULTANT TO ASSIST GOING THROUGH THE DESIGN OF THE PROPOSED JUVENILE DETENTION FACILITY AT WHAT I'M REQUESTING APPROVAL FOR AT THIS POINT IS SIMPLY PHASES ONE AND TWO, AND THAT WILL GET US TO THE BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU'VE REQUESTED WITHIN THE NEXT 60 DAYS.
SO THAT WOULD BE AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $1,875 QUESTIONS FOR RAYLAND ABOUT THAT.
AND IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT CONSULTING SERVICES BUDGET AS PRESENTED ON MY MOTION WHERE THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER HUNT, IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
[12. Raylan Smith; Receive updates and provide input for Outdoor Recreation Project - County Show-Barn Facilities and Operations Plan.]
12 BACK TO RAELYNN RECEIVE UPDATES AND PROVIDE INPUT FOR OUTDOOR RECREATION, PROJECT COUNTY SHOW BARN FACILITIES, AND OPERATIONS PLAN.SO THIS IS JUST TO KIND OF GIVE Y'ALL AN UPDATE.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE THE MASTER OUTDOOR RECREATION PLAN, THE CONCEPT PLAN OF THE WALKING TRAILS AND THE SHOW BARN, ET CETERA.
UM, THE COMMITTEE, WHICH CONSISTED OF MEMBERS OF THE HISTORIC COMMISSION, AGRILIFE THE COUNTY, THE SHOW BARN, UH, I'M SORRY.
THE SHOW BOARD, UM, MET, DISCUSS DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
UM, WHAT I'M REALLY LOOKING FOR TODAY IS THE FACILITY CONSTRUCTION IS THAT IT'S GOING TO VARY EITHER.
WE ARE MOVING TOWARDS A BARN FACILITY TO HOST THE LAB STOCK SHOWS, OR THERE'S ALSO THE EXHIBIT HALLS AND OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE ALSO BEEN DISCUSSED.
AND THE OPERATION OF THOSE TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF FACILITIES MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE IN CONSTRUCTION.
AND WHAT I'M REQUESTING IS KIND OF THE SAME ONE THAT WE DID WITH THE PROPOSED JUVENILE DETENTION FACILITY, AS POSSIBLY FINDING SOMEONE WHO CAN HELP DRAFT
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THE OPERATIONS PLAN.BUT WHAT I'M REALLY NEEDING FROM THE COMMISSIONERS IS TO UNDERSTAND THE SCOPE OF WHAT THIS BUILDING NEEDS TO BE SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT DIRECTION TO GO WITH AS FAR AS THE OPERATIONS.
SO BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK AND THERE THERE'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE LIVESTOCK BARN AND A CONCERT ARENA.
AND THAT OPERATION PLAN IS GOING TO BE NOT IN DAY DIFFERENT AS WELL.
I DID HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH BCI, WHICH IS AN ARCHITECTURAL FIRM THAT, UH, STUART MCGREGOR PUT ME IN CONTACT WITH THIS PAST WEEK.
THEY HAVE EXTENSIVE, UM, KNOWLEDGE AND BACKGROUND IN THE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE GRANTS.
UM, SO THEY HAVE AGREED TO PUT TOGETHER SOME TYPE OF PROPOSAL TO SEE HOW THEY MIGHT, COULD HELP KIND OF MANEUVER US THROUGH THE GRANT PROCESS AND THEN ALSO FINDING OUT WHAT ALL WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO HAVE IN PLACE IN ASSISTANCE WITH THE OPERATIONS PLAN.
WE ALSO HAVE CONTACTS FROM SOMERVILLE COUNTY THAT WE HAD LOOKED AT WHENEVER WE WERE EXPLORING OTHER PROPERTIES.
UM, I JUST, I NEED, I NEED SOME DIRECTION AND SOME EXPECTATION ON THE BUILDING, OBVIOUSLY AGRILIFE IS HERE AND I'M MEETING WITH, UH, TOMMY ON FRIDAY MORNING.
UM, JUST TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT WHERE WE ARE TO DATE.
I JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
AS FAR AS THE OPERATIONS PLAN, DO WE WANT LARGE SCOPE? DO WE WANT TO START WITH PHASING IN JUST BUILDING REBUILDING WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE? SO I'M LOOKING FOR SOME INPUT.
I THINK THAT COMMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE THAT IT WOULD BE NICE TO MAKE THIS A SHOW PLACE, BUT THAT'S NOT REALISTIC IN MY MIND, BUT I THINK WE CAN PROVIDE, UM, A GOOD PLACE, A WELL-KEPT PLACE THAT WILL DRAW CHILDREN FROM ALL OVER THE STATE AND WITHIN OUR COUNTY TO SHOW THEIR ANIMALS, TO DO A REQUEST FOR EIGHT, SAY QUESTION EVENTS AND HOST OTHER QUESTION EVENTS AND DO THE SHOW BARN STUFF.
AND AS WE LEARNED IN THE COMMITTEE MEETING, THEY'RE DOING FIN AND FEATHERS STUFF.
I MEAN, IT'S STUFF I'VE NEVER HEARD OF BEFORE, BUT THE KIDS ARE SHOWING STUFF AND WE KEEP WE'RE KEEPING WHAT I'VE NEVER.
YEAH, NO FISH YET, BUT THE KIDS ARE GETTING INVOLVED IN THIS STUFF IS A PLACE FOR THE KIDS DO.
AND IF WE HAVE SOMETHING WE CAN GET KAUFMAN COUNTY KIDS INVOLVED IN HERE'S WHERE THE STATE, WE DON'T NEED THE JUVENILE CENTER.
SO, UM, I MEAN, I JUST THINK THAT IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE A TAJ MAHAL.
WE DON'T NEED TO HOST BIG CONCERTS, BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE A CONCERT ON DIRT.
I MEAN, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AN ELABORATE THING WITH A CONTROLLED ENVIRONMENT NOW ALSO.
AND WHAT I ENVISIONED FROM THE VERY BEGINNING IS THAT WE MOVE OUR AGRILIFE OFFICES THERE AND WE BUILD DEMONSTRATION KITCHENS.
WE HAVE CLASSROOMS FOR THE KIDS IN THE COMMUNITY TO COME IN FOR ALL THE FOUR H PROGRAMS. SO I THINK WE CAN PROVIDE A SPOT FOR OUR KIDS IN THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE CLASSROOMS, THEY HAVE DEMONSTRATION KITCHENS.
AND SO IN A, FOR ALL OF OUR KIDS TO GO, ANOTHER EXCITING THING THAT I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE LIBRARY HAS BEEN WAITING.
THEY'VE HAD TWO DOUBLE DOORS FOR A CHILDREN'S WAYNE.
THAT'S BEEN THERE SINCE THE BUILT A BUILDING, WHAT, 40 YEARS AGO, OR 35 YEARS AGO THAT WE'VE NEVER MOVED FORWARD AND EXPANDED THE LIBRARY.
LIKE WE SAID, WE TOLD THE PUBLIC BACK THEN WE WOULD.
SO I MEAN, THE LIBRARY WILL GROW.
THE, WE'VE GOT A BEAUTIFUL VETERANS COUNTY VETERANS PARK OUT THERE THAT WE CAN MAKE IT A PLACE FOR FAMILIES TO COME THE CEREMONIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND, AND THEN OF COURSE YOU HAD THE POOR FORM, WHICH IS THE LAST ONE LEFT IN THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT WE CAN JUST MAKE SURE IT'S PRESERVED.
AND IT'S JUST A SMALL TRACK, BUT WE'RE UTILIZING ALL THE REST OF THE POOR FORM FOR THE KIDS AND THE COMMUNITY.
I JUST THINK WE DON'T WANT TO GET TOO FANCY, BUT WE NEED TO BE THERE TO BE FUNCTIONAL.
AND, AND I THINK THAT A NICE SHOW BARN FACILITY CAN BE BUILT WITHOUT GETTING TOO EXTRAVAGANT.
AND I KNOW I'VE RATTLED, BUT YOU KNOW, W I JUST DON'T THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A TAJ MAHAL.
I MEAN, IT'S, I THINK THE IDEA OF GETTING WHAT'S WORKED HAS WORKED PRETTY WELL FOR US.
AND I THINK IT'S WORKING WELL ON THE DESIGNS THAT WE'VE DONE AS FAR AS GETTING SOMEBODY WHO'S ACTUALLY
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OPERATED THE FACILITY OVER, YOU KNOW, HAS MULTIPLE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AND COULD ADVISE US.I THINK THAT'S A PRETTY, THAT THAT'S PROBABLY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SITUATION WOULD BE, BUT I THINK IN THOSE CASES, USUALLY IT'S A PRETTY LOW COST OPTION FOR US.
AND IT MIGHT KEEP US FROM DOING SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD, MIGHT KEEP US FROM PUTTING A WALL SOMEWHERE OR DOING SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD REGRET, YOU KNOW, JUST OUT OF INEXPERIENCE.
SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
I THINK YOU SHOULD PURSUE THAT THE ADULT, BUT DON'T GO FOR THE TAJ MAHAL DEAL.
I MEAN, THERE'S GOT TO BE A RIGHT.
NO, W AND SO THAT, THAT WAS THE DIRECTION.
I JUST TO FIND SOMEONE WHO OPERATES A LIVESTOCK SHOW BARN, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AND THEN LET THAT BE THE PHASING INTO IF YOU WANTED TO DO AN EXHIBITION HALLS OR WHATEVER, BUT START THERE.
AND SO THEN THAT WAY WE'VE GOT SOME, SOME INPUT AND THEN CERTAINLY THE CONSULT, THE, SOMEBODY WHO KNOWS HOW TO NAVIGATE THE GRANT SYSTEM HAS EXPERIENCED THAT'S A KEY COMPONENT AND AN UNDERSTANDING A WISHLIST, THE GRANTS ARE GOING TO BE, I KNOW WE HAVE MONEY THAT WE'VE KIND OF COMMITTED TO THIS, BUT THE GRANTS ARE REALLY GOING TO BE A BIG PORTION OF OUR FUNDING TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
SO WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO WITH THAT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IF THE PARTIES THAT OUR USERS ARE GOING TO BE, USERS NEED TO BE IN THE ROOM WITH THIS CONSULTANT THAT WE GET, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND IT, THERE MIGHT BE SOME ROAD TRIPS THAT MAY BE THE, THE SHOW PEOPLE AGRILIFE FOR WHATEVER WANTS TO GO DOWN, LIKE IN THE HILL COUNTRY.
SOME OF THOSE COUNTIES DO HAVE BIG, BIG BARNS AND STUFF THAT THE COUNTY USES, AND THEY HAVE SO FULL, BUT I WAS PRETTY SURPRISED THAT I REALLY TRULY BELIEVE THAT THAT FACILITY CAN BE USED EVERY WEEK OF THE YEAR, EXCEPT FOR HOLIDAYS BETWEEN THE QUESTION OF EVENTS, FOUR H AGRILIFE EVENTS AND SHOW EVENTS, YOU KNOW, THAT THE KIDS ARE INVOLVED WITH, WITH THE FFAS AND STUFF.
AND WE'LL BRING KIDS FROM ALL OVER THE STATE IN THERE TO SHOW AND HOW WE PAID FOR IT AND WHAT KIND OF MONEY YOU DON'T WANT TO CHARGE A LOT FOR CHILDREN TO USE IT, BUT WE STILL NEED TO TRY TO, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY DO THAT TO WHERE WE CAN AT LEAST BREAK EVEN, YOU KNOW, OR OUR MODEST LOST, YOU KNOW, MAKE AN INVESTMENT IN OUR FUTURE KIDS.
SO, BUT IT'S JUST, YOU JUST GET THAT, THANK YOU, BRING YOUR RIDE, BRING SOME MONEY IN THE NOSE, TALK TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE USERS.
AND WE JUST KIND OF COME UP WITH A, SO MY PROPOSED NEXT STEPS WOULD BE, LIKE I SAID, I WAS GOING TO MEET WITH, UM, TOMMY AND THE STAFF FROM AGRILIFE ON FRIDAY, MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'M SURE THEY PROBABLY ALSO KNOW PEOPLE IN THE FIELD AND THEN BRING THE COMMITTEE BACK TOGETHER WITH THE LIST OF PROGRAMS AND PUT TOGETHER AN OPERATION PLAN AND A SIZE FACILITY FOR THAT PHASE ONE.
AND THEN THAT WAY WE'VE GOT SOMETHING CONCRETE TO APPLY FOR GRANTS AND HAVE FROM BUDGET NUMBERS.
AND SO I WOULD PROBABLY KEEP THIS ON THE SAME 30 TO 45 DAY BUDGET LIST THAT WE'RE DOING ALL THE OTHER FACILITIES THAT WAY, WHENEVER WE COME BACK FOR FUNDING REQUESTS, WE'VE GOT ALL THAT INFORMATION.
WE'RE REALLY GOING TO NEED ALL THAT INFORMATION.
WHENEVER WE CAUSE THE GUYS GALLAGHER IS DOING A GREAT JOB BY COMING IN UNDER BUDGET.
SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE EXCESS FUNDS FROM HIS PROJECTS.
WE JUST NEED TO KNOW HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST US TO DO THAT.
SO I THINK WE'RE GOING THE RIGHT WAY WITH ALL THIS.
AND THEN WE JUST NEED TO, I'LL JUST PUT THIS ON THE SAME TIME SCHEDULE THAT WE'RE DOING ALL THE OTHER FACILITY QUOTES.
AND I JUST BASICALLY WANTED TO UPDATE EVERYONE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND JUST KNOW THAT THAT'LL BE PART OF, ONE OF THE PROJECTS PRESENTED IN THE NEXT MONTH EXECUTIVE SESSION.
AND WE CAN DO OUR INDIAN LEG WRESTLING AND FIND OUT WHICH ONE WE'RE GOING TO PUT TO THE TOP.
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO PUT IN? I THINK, I THINK WHEN YOU BRING IT IN SOMETHING LIKE OUTSIDE THAT'S EXPERIENCED IN IT, THEN WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT TAKES TO OPERATE IT AND HOW FAR WE SHOULD NEED TO GO ON, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THE HELP FROM TOMMY AND EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, CAUSE THEY'RE ALSO GOING TO PUT AN AWFUL LOT OF INPUT INTO THIS ON ME.
YOU KNOW, WE DID, WE JUST GOT TO ESTABLISH WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GO AND HOW MUCH USE YOU'RE GOING TO WANT A BIT AND, AND PARTIALLY THE COST, BUT, YOU KNOW, FOR OUR KIDS, IT'S PART OF CAMPUS.
SO WE NEED THEM IN WHAT WE CAN DO.
AND AGAIN, LIKE, AND I KNOW BEFORE THE MEETINGS, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS IN THAT KIND OF CONVERSATION ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW HOW I KNOW WE PAY PARTY Y'ALL SALARIES AND STUFF, BUT YOU KNOW, IF THEY DO GO OUT THERE, THERE ARE RECEPTIONISTS, THERE ARE CLERKS THAT CAN TAKE
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CARE OF A LOT OF THE, TO SAVE MONEY FOR THE OPERATIONS THAT I'M SURE THAT I CAN TALK TO THEIR BOSSES AND THEY CAN DO A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR THE COUNTY TO, TO HELP US BE SUCCESSFUL.SO TO SIT IN THEIR BIG BOSSES.
ANYWAY, THAT WAS REALLY AN UPDATE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL STILL MOVING IN THE SAME DIRECTION.
AND THAT WAY EVERYBODY KNOWS, CAUSE ALSO GOT A PHONE CALL FROM CITY MANAGER IN KAUFMAN.
AND I MEAN, SO JUST SEEING THIS ON AGENDAS AND STUFF, OBVIOUSLY THERE IS A LOT OF INTEREST IN THIS PROGRAM.
SO I THINK IT WAS GOOD TO COME FORWARD AND SAY WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE GOING TO BE AND WHEN Y'ALL COULD ANTICIPATE SEEING ALL THAT COME TOGETHER.
[13. Commissioner Phillips; Discuss and consider Deputy Constable payroll adjustments.]
COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSED CONSIDERED DEPUTY CONSTABLE PAYROLL ADJUSTMENTS.BEFORE YOU PASS THAT ITEM, COULD I JUST ASK A QUESTION? YES, SIR.
UH, AND I CERTAINLY AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER HUNT, UH, IN, IN MANY RESPECTS.
UH, BUT, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT ONE IMPORTANT STEP WOULD BE TO TRY TO GET SOME INPUT, UH, FROM THE COMMUNITY.
UH, I THINK THAT A PRUDENT THING IN THIS MATTER WOULD BE TO, TO AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TO HOLD AT LEAST A COUPLE OF PUBLIC HEARINGS TO HEAR WHAT THE CITIZENS, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT OUR SHOW BARN, UH, FOLKS THINK AND WHAT THE, WHAT THOSE OF US ON THE COURT THING.
UM, BECAUSE I THINK THERE IS STILL POTENTIAL TO CONSIDER, UH, A MULTI-USE FUNCTION OF THAT FACILITY.
I THINK IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THAT COFFIN AT THE CITY OF KAUFFMAN CIVIC CENTER ITSELF, YOU CAN SEE HOW QUICKLY EVEN THAT FACILITY, UH, FILLS UP.
UH, WHICH I THINK POINTS OUT IN AT LEAST A POTENTIAL NEED FOR, UH, UH, UH, A LARGER, UH, MULTI-USE KIND OF FACILITY.
UH, BUT IN THE END, I THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO LET THE CITIZENS VOICE BE HEARD AND HEAR WHAT THE CITIZENS OF KAUFMAN COUNTY, UH, WHAT THEY WOULD ENVISION AND WHAT THEY THINK WOULD BE, UM, PROVEN INVESTMENT FOR THE FUTURE.
AND, AND ALSO, UH, UH, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER, UH, ENSURING THAT THAT FACILITY MESHES WITH THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ALREADY PLANNED, UH, AND APPROVED BY THE CITY OF KAUFFMAN AS WELL.
SO BEFORE WE, BEFORE WE JUST, UH, ULTIMATELY DECIDE TO, TO, UM, UH, NOT BUILD A TAJ MAHAL AND I'M NOT ADVOCATING A TAJ MAHAL, BUT BEFORE WE MADE THE FINAL DECISION ON, ON, UH, HOW THAT FACILITY SHOULD SHAPE UP, I THINK IT'D BE IMPORTANT TO LET THE CITIZENS AS A COUNTY HAVE A SAY.
SO IN IT, MAYBE I'D RECOMMEND THAT WE CONSIDER, UH, UH, A PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, WELL, I DON'T THINK IT'S EVER BAD TO GET INPUT AND MAYBE, UH, I COULD ASK, UH, MAYBE SOME SORT OF A SURVEY WOULD BE A GOOD STARTING POINT ONCE WE GET, ONCE WE GET, UM, SOME CONCEPT OR SOME GENERAL IDEA ABOUT THE RANGE OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF DOLLARS OR SQUARE FOOT OF SOME CON GENERAL CONCEPT ENOUGH THAT WE COULD PUT THOSE QUESTIONS INTO A SURVEY AND DONNA COULD PUT THAT SURVEY OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND ON THE WEBSITE.
AND THEN, AND THEN MAYBE FOLLOW UP AFTER THAT AND REPORT THE RESULTS OF THIS SURVEY.
LIKE WHAT, WHAT SORT OF THINGS WOULD PEOPLE LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT SORT OF EVENTS WOULD THEY LIKE TO HAVE AND, UM, JUST SEE WHAT THEY THINK AND, AND THEN WE'D HAVE TO DEAL WITH REALITY.
I THINK THAT'S A GREAT STEP, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, BECAUSE OF EVEN AT A PUBLIC HEARING, IT WOULD CERTAINLY BE BENEFICIAL IF WE HAD, UH, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST A BALLPARK IDEA OF WHAT IT, WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST US CITIZENS FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, THE VARIOUS, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF ITERATIONS OF WHAT THAT FACILITY MIGHT BE.
UM, SO, SO SINCE RAYLAN ALWAYS GETS, UH, GETS TO HANDLE ALL THESE THINGS, I WOULDN'T ASK HER TO WHEN SHE FEELS LIKE IT'S FAR ENOUGH ALONG THAT WE COULD, UH, WE COULD DO SOME SORT OF SURVEY AND THEN FOLLOW THAT UP WITH A PUBLIC MEETING.
WELL, I THINK PROBABLY WHEN, WHENEVER WE GO TO THE PUBLIC, WE'RE ASKING MORE ABOUT PROGRAMMING, ANY
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EVENTS, KIND OF LIKE WHAT THEY FORESEE HAPPENING, AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE THE DETERMINATION ON THE FACILITY SIDE.BUT I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO FIND OUT FROM THEM WHAT TYPES OF EVENTS AND PROGRAMMING THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE KAUFMAN COUNTY, YOU MIGHT TWEAK THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT END UP TWEAKING THE FACILITY JUST A LITTLE BIT TO ACCOMMODATE SOME, SOME ACTIVITY THAT THEY'D LIKE TO HAVE MAYBE ORGANIZATIONS THAT, I MEAN, IT WAS SOMETHING YOU'D BE ABLE TO PUT ON THE WEBPAGE AND ASK FOR SUGGESTION.
I MEAN, BUT THERE'S A GENERAL QUESTION WEBSITE AND SEE WHAT HAPPENED.
YOU KNOW, YOU GET PEOPLE THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX, RIGHT? IT'S LIKE, I CAN SEE, I CAN VERY WELL SEE KAUFMAN HIGH SCHOOL BEING INTERESTED IN USING, UTILIZING A DEMONSTRATION KITCHEN, SO CLOSE TO THEIR CAMPUS.
I MEAN, WE HAD IT WHEN I WAS AT SCHOOL, THE HOME-EC AND STUFF.
THEY COME IN THE MORNING, WE HAVE A CAFE HAVE CAFE, WE HAVE A FORM THAT YOU CAN JUST ADD IT TO YOUR LIST SO WE CAN PUT A CAFE IN THERE.
MR. K2, YOU THROW KEN, IS THAT TECH THAT TAKE CARE OF THAT? WE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF, YES, SIR.
UH, OKAY THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 13.
COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSED, CONSIDER DEPUTY CONSTABLE PAYROLL ADJUSTMENTS.
I TALKED TO COMMISSIONER MARMARA AMANDA, AND, UH, OR HE TALKED TO ME WHEN THE TWO OF US WENT BACK AND FORTH AND, UH, FROM THE SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY, WE JUST THOUGHT IT'D BE RIGHT FOR THE ACTUAL PATROL DEPUTIES IN THE, ALL THE CONTRACTS AND, UH, IN THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE BEING PAID THE SAME AS THE EVER PATROL OFFICER.
UM, CAUSE THEY ALL FUNCTIONED IN THE SAME MANNER, NOT SAYING WITHIN THE ENDEMICALLY THE SAME OR NOT, BUT THEY'RE THE SAME ACTUAL THING.
AND THEY ASKED THE AUDITOR TO GIVE US A PRICE AND SHE CAME UP WITH A TOTAL AMOUNT OF $6,598 IS ALL IN COST US FOR 22.
AND I JUST THINK IT'D BE A FAIR THING TO DO.
I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT AND THIS, WHENEVER I SAW THIS ON THE AGENDA, UM, I DON'T, I DON'T NECESSARILY, I DON'T THINK THE JOBS ARE THE SAME.
I MEAN, THEY'RE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, BUT I THINK, AND WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION HERE IN THIS COURT A NUMBER OF TIMES.
UM, I DON'T THINK THE, AND MAYBE I'M WRONG, BUT I DON'T THINK THE CONSTABLE DEPUTIES, THEY DON'T HAVE 24 HOUR SHIFTS WHERE THEY'RE ON THE STREETS, 24.
IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, I THINK THE CONTRAST, SORRY.
UH, SO YOU HAVE GUYS THAT ARE ON NIGHTS AND GUYS THAT ARE ON DAYS AND WEEKEND, THE CONTRACT, THE CONTRACT PEOPLE.
WHAT ABOUT THE, THE NON, THE OTHER CONSTABLES? THESE ARE TWO.
IF I'VE GOT A DEPUTY WHO'S THAT HAS BEEN TRYING TO SERVE A PIPER ON SOMEBODY AND THEY'VE BEEN OUT OF THE STATE AND WE'VE GOT A DEADLINE, THEY, HE LEAVES HIS CELL PHONE NUMBER, JUST LIKE I DO THEY'LL CALL AND WE HAVE TO MEET THEM SOMETIMES TWO, THREE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, HE GOES, START WITH PIPER.
WELL, BUT THEY'RE NOT WORKING SHIFT WORK.
THE, THE PATROL DEPUTIES ARE, BUT THE OTHER GUYS ARE NOT WORKING SHIFT TO ME.
THAT'S A, THAT'S A DIFFERENCE IN THE JOB SHIFT WORK.
BUT IF WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY, EVERYBODY'S GOT, I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S LAW ENFORCEMENT ALWAYS.
AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE TIME TO RESEARCH IT, BECAUSE THIS HAS COME UP AND I'VE NEVER DONE THIS IN, IS THIS COMMON PRACTICE IN ALL COUNTIES THAT THE DEPUTY CONSTABLES MAKE THE SAME AMOUNT AS AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THE JOBS ARE EXACTLY THE SAME.
AND IS THIS COMMON PRACTICE IN ALL COUNTIES THAT THE DEPUTY CONSTABLES MAKE THE SAME AS THE SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION, BUT I'D BE INTERESTED TO KNOW ABOUT OUR PEER COUNTIES, UH, SHERIFF, ALISON PARKER.
UM, DO YOU KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT? I CAN TELL YOU I'VE DONE RESEARCH ON IT AND PROBABLY 90% OF THEM MIGHT SAY, OKAY, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE'S VERY FAR IN, IN BETWEEN.
I MEAN, I'M, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT, I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT ONE BETTER THAN THE OTHER.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT THE JOB SAYING THAT IF IT FELL ON, PUTS ON A BADGE AND WE HIRE HIM AND HE STRAPS A GUN ON HIM AND HE'S 24 HOURS OR EIGHT HOURS, HE STILL RUNS THE SAME RISK.
THE OTHER THING, THE OTHER THING THAT I, THAT I AM NOT WILD ABOUT IS, UM, I WISH WE COULD HAVE ALL THESE.
I WISH WE COULD GET ALL OUR PAYROLL CONVERSATIONS AND ALL THAT SORT OF THING.
AND YOU SAY, THIS IS A $7,000 DEAL, BUT WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS WE'RE CHANGING THE BUDGET FOR NEXT
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YEAR.AND I WISH WE COULD DO ALL THESE THINGS IN THE BUDGET CYCLE.
IT SEEMS TO DO A LOT OF MID-YEAR, UH, EQUAL PAY.
I GUESS IT HADN'T BEEN BROUGHT UP TO ME SO MUCH.
I'M GETTING INTO THAT, BUT IT'S BEEN RELEVANT TO, CAN I SAY SOMETHING, JUDGE? OKAY.
IT'S ONLY GOING TO COST THE COUNTY 2358 SIMPLY BECAUSE THE OTHER PART IS THE CONTRACTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BUILD THOSE ENTITIES FOR.
IS THAT AN ALL NUMBER WITH EQUIPMENT OR EQUIPMENT CARS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, OR THAT'S JUST A SALARY THAT'S BASE SALARY.
IF THEY HAD LONGEVITY, SOCIAL SECURITY, RETIREMENT WORKERS' COMP UNEMPLOYMENT, WE INCLUDED IT ACROSS THE BOARD FOR THE REST OF THE PAY PERIOD.
IT'S ALWAYS GOOD FOR US TO REMEMBER THAT WHEN YOU HIRE SOMEBODY, THEIR WAGES ABOUT HALF OF THE COST, BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT HEALTH INSURANCE, RETIREMENT, UH, CAR COMPUTERS, YOU KNOW, GEAR AND ALL THAT STUFF, NOT JUST FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT, BUT EVERY TIME WE HIRE AN EMPLOYEE, YES, SIR.
HE JUST ABOUT DOUBLED THEIR WAGE AND LET IT COST US.
AND YOUR PERSONNEL COST IS ABOUT 67 TO 72% OF YOUR TOTAL BUDGET.
WELL, UH, IT'S IT, THE BASE INCREASE IS $264 PER MAN.
AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S JUST $2,300.
I, I REALLY DON'T HAVE ONE FOOT IN ONE WAY OR THE OTHER WITH THE $2,000 THAT THIS IS GOING TO IMPACT THE BUDGET.
BUT I DO AGREE WITH THE JUDGE THAT THIS STUFF REALLY NEEDS TO BE DONE IN THE BUDGET PROCESS.
AND, BUT IN THE BUDGET PROCESS, LIKE RIGHT NOW, WE NEED TO BE GETTING NUMBERS TO MAKE OUR PEOPLE COMPETITIVE WITH EVERYBODY ELSE SURROUNDING US.
AND I DON'T KNOW, I KNOW THE $264 EVEN WE GIVE THIS TO THE GUYS, IT BRINGS THEM UP TO THE 50,000 AND THE 50,000 IS REALLY NOT COMPETITIVE WITH THE 60 OR 62 THAT PEOPLE ARE PAYING AROUND US.
AND SO, BUT, BUT THAT'S, BUT I MEAN, I THINK REALLY WE REALLY NEED TO TAKE IT SERIOUS AND STARTING NOW TO DO COMPARISON STUDIES SO WE CAN TRY TO MAKE OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT COMPETITIVE AND THOSE THAT WE NEED TO BE HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS ALL THE WAY UP TO THE BUDGET SIDE.
YOU KNOW, I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO DO, TO MAKE ALL THESE ADJUSTMENTS REAL ADJUSTMENTS DURING THE BUDGET CYCLE.
THAT'S WHAT I'D REALLY LIKE TO DO.
ANYTHING ELSE, I MEAN, IS THIS, BUT WE DO NEED TO BE SERIOUS ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE'RE NOT COMPETITIVE BOND.
THIS IS THAT I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT WHAT, WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE POTENTIAL TO EXPAND OUR, UH, OUR CONTRACT, EVERGREEN, UH, WAGE AND SCALE, UH, EXPERTS TO LOOK AND DO THIS COMPARISON FOR OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY VERSUS THE SURROUNDING ENVIRONMENT.
I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY WAY THAT WE CAN, WE, I DON'T THINK ANY, I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE THAT WE WOULD GET, UH, SOMEBODY TO EXPAND THAT TO LAW ENFORCEMENT.
YOU KNOW, OUR, WHEN WE DID OUR EVERGREEN SHADI, WE DIDN'T INCLUDE LAW ENFORCEMENT.
WE DIDN'T INCLUDE INCLUDING THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE.
WASN'T INCLUDED IN THAT STUDY.
WE DID ASK WHEN WE WENT, WHEN WE HIRED THE FIRE MARSHALL, THEY DID AS A FAVOR, THEY DID.
UM, UH, THEY DID DO SOME RESEARCH ON THAT FOR US, JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S, THEY, THEY HAVE ALL THAT DATA OBVIOUSLY.
AND THE ONLY THING I ASK, IF WE DO PAY SOMEBODY TO DO THAT, WE, WE DON'T NEED TO BE GIVEN THEM THE CDS.
I MEAN, WE NEED TO TELL THEM WE'VE GOT A METROPOLITAN AREA THAT WE NEED TO COMPETE WITH.
AND WHEN WE STARTED GETTING SALARY NUMBERS FROM WEST TEXAS CITIES OR COUNTIES OR WHATEVER, THOSE THINGS DON'T NEED TO COME IN, THE CON THE COMPETITION IS HERE AROUND US.
SO, I MEAN, THAT'S ALL, I, I HAVE TO GET THE DATA FROM PEOPLE THAT ARE WILLING TO PROVIDE THE DATA TO YEAH, WELL, MOST OF HIS STUFF IS PUBLIC RECORD, YOU KNOW, SO A LITTLE WORK, THEY CAN FIND IT.
THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO SAY IS I WOULD THINK WE'VE GOT A GOOD VANTAGE POINT TO DO THIS, EVEN THOUGH THE CITIES AROUND US AND WHAT WE'RE DOING, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES THAT DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB IN THIS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT.
AND, UH, I THINK THEY CAN HELP US A LOT WITH THAT, WHICH I MEAN, WE'RE PART OF, AND I DON'T THINK IT'S A BIG COST, BUT I MEAN THE EVERGREEN STUDY, WE KNEW IT DIDN'T INCLUDE LAW ENFORCEMENT.
WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AND THEN IT PICKED AND CHOOSE AROUND THE COUNTY.
AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THEY'RE REALLY GOOD AT COMPARISON BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT GRAYSON COUNTY WHO CONTACTED ME, NOT TOO LONG, WE'RE FAIRLY CLOSE TO THEM AND YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE THEIR NUMBERS COMPARED TO OURS.
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WE START, WE NEED TO COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES IS WHAT I SAY.I THINK WHAT WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT AS DATA WE WANT, WE WANT TO MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON, BASED ON DATA, NOT BASED ON WHAT WE THINK MIGHT BE TRUE.
SO THAT'S 13 OR WE, WE THROUGH THAT DISCUSSION THEN, IS THERE A MOTION TO MAKE PAYROLL ADJUSTMENTS AS PRESENTED? WELL, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION, MR. PHILLIPS MOVED TO MAKE THOSE PAYROLL ADJUSTMENTS AS PRESENTED ON THE SHEET THAT WAS HANDED OUT TO US BY THE AUDITOR.
IS THERE A SECOND? I DON'T HEAR A SECOND ON ITEM 13.
THERE'S NO MOTION A LOT ON THIRD.
[14. Auditor; Discuss/Consider line-item transfers.]
THE AUDITOR DISCUSSED CONSIDER LINE ON PAYMENTS, LANHAM TRANSFERS.YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UM, TRANSFERS AND PAYMENTS AT THE SAME TIME? NO, NO ONE AT A TIME.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LINE ITEMS TRANSFERS? UH, THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS FOR THE AUDITOR BY LINE TRANSFERS OR A MOTION TO APPROVE LINE ITEM TRANSFERS.
WE HAVE COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS IS OUR SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES
[15. Auditor; Discuss/Consider claims for payment.]
ITEM 15, DISCUSS CONSIDER CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT OR 1,000,030 $7,302 AND 44 CENTS.DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BILLS? NO.
THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS ABOUT CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED I'LL MAKE AT MOST WHERE THE MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS? IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
[16. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider exiting regular meeting and enter executive session.]
OKAY.ITEM 16, DISCUSS, CONSIDER EXITING YOUR WELCOME DISCUSS, CONSIDER EXITING, EXITING, REGULAR MEETING AND ENTERING INTO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
IS THERE A MOTION TO DO SO I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.
UM, WE HAVE A MOTION TO GO IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
IS THERE A SECOND SACRUM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? NO MOTION CARRIES WE'RE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51 0.072 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.
THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT WILL MEET IN CLOSED SESSION TO DISCUSS REAL ESTATE NEGOTIATIONS.
[18. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider exiting executive session and enter back into regular meeting.]
NEED A MOTION TO BRING US OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION BACK INTO REGULAR SESSION.THE SECOND ONE COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.
UH, NO ACTION WAS TAKEN IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
DON'T HEAR ANY MOTIONS COMING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION, WHICH BRINGS US TO ITEM 19 OR 20.
PHYLLIS MOVES TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR.