Apr 26, 2022 Commissioners Court

YOU DIDN'T SAY THAT TYPE OF BAG.

NO, THAT'S IT CAN'T MAKE ANY PROMISES.

TO ITEM TWO, THE CONSENT AGENDA THERE'S ITEMS A THROUGH D ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS ASKED TO DISCUSS ANY OF THOSE INDIVIDUALLY, IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED I'LL MAKE UP MY EMOTIONAL COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

UH, DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE TO SHARE?

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IF NOT, WE MOVE ON

[2. CONSENT AGENDA ]

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER CAGE DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

WE HAVE TODAY WITH US, UH, ON OUR ANNUAL VENTURE, UH, SUE WEST, UH, DISCUSSING CONSIDER APPROVING A PROCLAMATION TO PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF MAY AS MOTORCYCLE SAFETY AWARENESS MONTH.

NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES NEXT UP.

[3. Sue West; Discuss/Consider approving Proclamation to proclaim the month of May as Motorcycle Safety Awareness Month. ]

SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME AND ADDRESS THE COURT? I KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO CONGRATULATE KAUFMAN COUNTY AND OUR SHERIFF, BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN THROUGH A SURVEY, KAUFMAN COUNTY HAS BEEN THE NUMBER ONE SAFEST SAFEST COUNTY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS FOR BIKERS ABOUT THAT.

I THINK THAT IS TERRIFIC.

UM, BECAUSE YEAR AND A HALF AGO, I REALIZED FIRSTHAND HOW SAFE, WHAT SAFETY MEANT WHEN DWIGHT WENT DOWN, WHICH IS MY HUSBAND WENT DOWN ON HIGHWAY 80, 150 FEET WITH HIS FULL DRESS HARLEY ON TOP OF HIM.

AND HE ARGUED WITH ME THAT DAY.

DO I HAVE TO WEAR A HELMET? HE'S GLAD HE DID.

AND EVEN THOUGH HE'S STILL, HASN'T GOTTEN ON A TWO WHEELER YET, I GOT HIM A TRIKE AND HE'S NOT HAPPY WITH ME, BUT HE'S SAFER.

BUT I WANT TO SAY WITH ALL OF YOU GUYS AND OUR SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND OUR LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENT, YOU GUYS HAVE JUST BEEN AWESOME WITH ALL OF THE BIKERS.

AND WE ARE SO HAPPY TO HAVE YOU GUYS AGAIN, DO THE PROCLAMATION.

WELL, LET ME READ THIS PROCLAMATION AND THEN I'LL COME DOWN THERE AND MAYBE WE'LL HAVE A PICTURE OR SOMETHING TO GET EVERYBODY BEHIND THE PODIUM HERE.

SO, UH, THIS IS A PROCLAMATION, WHEREAS TODAY'S SOCIETY IS FINDING MORE CITIZENS, CITIZENS AND BALLED IN MOTORCYCLING ON THE ROADS OF OUR COUNTRY.

MOTORCYCLISTS ARE ROUGHLY UNPROTECTED AND THEREFORE MORE PRONE TO INJURY OR DEATH IN A CRASH THAN OTHER VEHICLE.

DRIVERS CAMPAIGNS HAVE HELPED INFORM RIDERS AND MOTORISTS ALIKE ON MOTORCYCLE SAFETY ISSUES TO REDUCE MOTORCYCLE RELATED RISK INJURIES.

AND MOST OF ALL FATALITIES, IT IS A RESPONSIBILITY OF ALL WHO PUT THEMSELVES BEHIND THE WHEEL TO BECOME AWARE OF MOTORCYCLISTS REGARDING THEM WITH THE SAME RESPECT AS ANY OTHER VEHICLE, TRAVELING THE HIGHWAYS OF THIS COUNTRY, URGING ALL CITIZENS OF OUR COMMUNITY TO BECOME AWARE OF THE INHERENT DANGER INVOLVED IN OPERATING A MOTORCYCLE AND FOR RIDERS AND MOTORS ALIKE TO GIVE EACH OTHER MUTUAL RESPECT THEY DESERVE.

NOW, THEREFORE I HELL RICHARDS, THE COUNTY OF KAUFFMAN DO HEREBY PROCLAIM.

THE MONTH OF MAY AS MOTORCYCLE SAFETY AND AWARENESS MONTH IN THIS COUNTY FURTHER, I URGE ALL RESIDENTS TO DO THEIR PART, TO INCREASE SAFETY AND AWARENESS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND, UH, THAT'S SIGNED ON THE 26TH DAY OF APRIL, 2022.

UH, THE ACTUAL ITEM ON THE AGENDA WOULD BE TO, UH, ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS PROCLAMATION.

IS THERE A MOTION TO DO SO I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

WE HAD EMOTIONAL COMMISSIONER AND BARBERS OR SECOND, I'LL HAVE A SECOND SEGMENT.

COMMISSIONER HUNT, DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

LET ME COME DOWN AND IF Y'ALL YOU GUYS DON'T MIND, WE'LL GET RIGHT BACK HERE AND TAKE A PEAK.

WE HAVE A HARDLY UP FRONT.

IF Y'ALL ONLY POSE ON THIS, MY GUILT, WE CAUGHT UP ON MY HAND, BANDING UP ON THE HONDA BAD.

ITEM, CONSTABLE JOHNSON, DISCUSS FOR APPROVAL.

I CAN SEE EVERYBODY BUT TEARY.

MIKE'S IS HEARING YESTERDAY YESTERDAY.

THANK YOU, SIR.

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[4. Constable Johnson; Discuss/Approve deputy lesah S. White to fill vacant approved full-time position with Kaufman County Pet. #2 Constable's Office Contract Patrol for the Travis Ranch Patrol Contract. ]

UH, DEPUTY LEAH S WHITE TO FILL VACANT A FIELD VACANT APPROVED FULL-TIME POSITION WITH KAUFMAN COUNTY PRECINCT TWO CONSTABLE'S OFFICE IN TRAVIS RANCH.

GOOD MORNING, SIR.

UM, THIS POSITION WAS CREATED AND ALREADY APPROVED BY THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

THIS IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE FOR MUD FIVE.

UM, UM, MS. WHITE, I KNOW WE HAVE THE NEXT AGENDA, BUT MS. WHITE IS ACTUALLY, UH, UM, COMING FROM, UH, DALLAS INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHICH FARM, UH, AND SHE HAS BEEN, UH, FROM WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD AMAZING OVER THERE.

AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING HER WORK WITH US QUESTIONS.

YES, MA'AM UM, GRANT, THIS ARE FLAMING ALL OF MUD FIVE.

THEY'RE ALL UNDER THE SAME ONE I'M DRAGGING ME.

I'M JUST MAKING SURE.

BACK TO CONSTABLE JOHNSON DISCUSSED FOR APPROVAL.

THEN IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE DEPUTY AND PETTY SECOND NAME? THEY USED TO WHITE LACE AND WHITE, UH, TO FILL THAT VACANT POSITION.

OH MY GOD.

I MADE A MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER IN CAGE DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE OPPOSED.

NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

NEXT ITEM FIVE

[5. Constable Johnson; Discuss/Approve the deputation of lesah S. White as a Deputy Constable with Kaufman County Pet. #2 Constable's Office. ]

THE DEPUTIZATION OF SIS WHITE.

MR. NAME AGAIN AS DEPUTY CONSTABLE WITH KAUFMAN COUNTY PRECINCT TWO.

YES, SIR.

LIKE I SAID, SHE ACTUALLY COMES FROM THE DALLAS INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT AS AN OFFICER OVER THERE.

SHE'S BEEN THERE FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS NOW.

UM, AND SOME OF THE STUFF TALKING WITH HER CHIEF OVER THERE, SHE IS A GO GETTER AND SHE WOULD DEFINITELY MAKE AN IMPACT WITH THIS COUNTY.

AND WITH THIS DEPARTMENT QUESTIONS.

NO, IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE HER DEPUTIZATION IS PRESENTED.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER BARBARA DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE OPPOSED.

NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU, SIR.

WE HAVE OUR FAR MARSHALL PAUL AYRES DISCUSS CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RETAIL FIREWORKS, PERMIT HOLDERS, SELLING FIREWORKS FROM FEBRUARY 25TH TO MARCH 2ND, TEXAS INDEPENDENCE DAY, APRIL 16TH TO APRIL 21ST, SAN JACINTO DAY AND OR THE WEDNESDAY AND LAST MONDAY OF MAY, UH, TO THE LAST, THE LAST MONDAY IN MAY TO LAST MONDAY OF MAY, I'D SAID TYPO GUESTS FOR MEMORIAL DAY.

UH, NEXT UP

[6. Paul Ayres; Discuss/Consider approval of retail fireworks permit holders selling fireworks from February 25th to March 2nd {Texas Independence Day), April 16th to April 21" (San Jacinto Day), and/or the Wednesday before the last Monday in May to the last Monday of May (Memorial Day). ]

ALL RIGHT.

SO I HAD A TWO FIREWORKS RETAILERS APPROACH OUR OFFICE, ASKING FOR US TO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA AND SEE WHAT Y'ALL'S THOUGHTS ARE ON IT.

SO, UH, BY LAW, THERE'S ONLY CERTAIN DAYS YOU CAN SELL FIREWORKS IN THE COUNTY.

AND THERE'S THOSE THREE DATES THAT HAVE TO HAVE A COMMISSIONER'S COURT APPROVAL IN ORDER FOR THEM TO SELL ON THOSE DATES.

SO, UM, IT WOULD BE A GREAT THING FOR THE RETAILERS, UH, IS MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO BRING IN SOME INCOME.

UM, IT IS GOING TO CREATE MORE WORKLOAD FOR US.

UM, INHERENTLY FIREWORKS ARE DANGEROUS.

UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE MORE INJURIES, MORE FIRES BECAUSE OF THEM.

SO, UM, UH, I'M NOT SURE THAT WE'RE PREPARED THIS YEAR TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

AND THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE AS FAR AS INSPECTIONS OF THE FIREWORKS STANDS.

UM, AND, UH, THE INCREASE IN CALL VOLUME.

UM, I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO TALK WITH THE FIRE CHIEFS ABOUT THAT YET.

SO THE NEXT CHIEFS MEETING WILL BE IN JUNE.

I'D LIKE TO BRING THAT BEFORE THEM, BEFORE WE, UM, DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

UM, OKAY.

UH, WE HAVE, UH, SOMEONE CARES THAT CARES TO SPEAK TO THIS MATTER FROM THE AUDIENCE.

UH, D FIRST, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR PAUL? UH, ACTUALLY YOU ANSWERED THE TWO QUESTIONS I HAVE JUST KIND OF WHAT PROMPTED THIS TO BE ON THE AGENDA AND HAD YOU CANVAS, HAVE YOU CANVAS THE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENTS SINCE THEY'RE GOING TO BE THE ONES WHO ARE GOING TO SUFFER THE BIGGEST IMPACT, RIGHT.

AND YOU'RE TO THOSE ARE ALL VOLUNTEERS TOO, SO CORRECT.

THEY'RE GIVEN UP TIME TO CHASE THESE FIRES DOWN.

SO I JUST THINK IT'S PRUDENT TO DO WHAT YOU ASKED IS TO HAVE A CHANCE TO TALK TO THE FIRE CHIEFS AND THEY GET THEIR INPUT AND THEN SHARE THAT WITH US.

WELL, WHY DON'T YOU SAY UP HERE, PAUL, AND, UH, I'D CALL UP.

UM, JAY HAD ALSO, UH, IF YOU'D COME TO THE MICROPHONE AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND WHERE YOU LIVE, PLEASE.

WE BRING IN A LOT OF TEXTS, TAX REVENUE FOR, UM, FIREWORKS, 4TH OF JULY, AS WELL AS, UH, NEW YEARS, MEMORIAL DAY HAS BEEN A GROWING, UM, REVENUE STREAM FOR OUR BUSINESS AND FOR THE COUNTY AS WELL.

HOWDY.

MY NAME IS JEN ALSO, UH, I'M THE OWNER AND OPERATOR AT COUSIN'S PAINTBALL, UM, HERE IN FORNEY, TEXAS.

UH, WE HAVE ROUGHLY 80 ACRES THAT WE, UH, OCCUPY THAT'S IN KAUFMAN COUNTY.

SOME OF IT'S IN DALLAS COUNTY.

UM,

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CAUSE OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF THAT MONEY GOES TO BACK TO THE COUNTY AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

UM, SO WE'RE JUST, UM, WE WERE HOPING THAT MEMORIAL DAY OPENING MEMORIAL DAY, UM, IS A LITTLE BIT EARLIER THAN THE 4TH OF JULY, OBVIOUSLY.

AND, UM, IN THE PAST IT SEEMS LIKE IT ALLEVIATES THE WORKLOAD FOR THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE.

UM, SPEAKING TO PREVIOUS FIRE MARSHALS BECAUSE THEY CAN START DOING, UM, INSPECTIONS AND, UM, GETTING THE, THE STANDS, UM, PERMITTED PREVIOUS TO, UM, 4TH OF JULY.

CAUSE IT ALWAYS SEEMS LIKE AS IT GETS CLOSER TO JUNE THAT THEIR WORKLOAD SEEMS TO BE OVERWHELMED BECAUSE IT'S HOTTER, DRIER.

THEY'RE TRYING TO PUT OUT FIRES, LITERALLY PUT OUT FIRES AS WELL AS TRYING TO INSPECT STANDS AND GET US READY.

UM, SO, UH, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IT'S, IT'S DUE DILIGENCE ON THE, UM, FIREWORKS STAND OWNERS TO PROMOTE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT.

AND WE DO THAT.

WE ALLOW FOLKS TO ACTUALLY POP THEM ON PROPERTY AND WEEK AND SO WE CAN KEEP THINGS CONTROLLED AND WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY ISSUES IN THE, IN THE SEVEN YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN SELLING FIREWORKS HERE IN COFFIN COUNTY.

SO I WOULD, UH, I JUST WOULD LIKE FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER IT AND THINK ABOUT IT AT LEAST, BUT MAYBE THE MEMORIAL DAY HOLIDAY, SO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE WORKLOAD AND THEN WE CAN REVISIT SOME OF THE OTHER HOLIDAYS, UM, LATER ON.

CAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT IS A LITTLE DRIER IN FEBRUARY AND APRIL.

I DO, YOU KNOW, FEBRUARY FOR SURE WITH THE DRY, DRY, DRY AREAS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO, UM, THAT'S I APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH.

CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION BEFORE YOU LEAVE? YES.

SERVICE KATE'S.

DO YOU HAVE ANY, UH, PROJECTION OR ANY HISTORICAL INFORMATION ABOUT REVENUE GENERATION THROUGH THAT, THROUGH THIS PARTICULAR PERIOD THAT DURING MEMORIAL DAY? UM, YEAH, SO, UM, MEMORIAL, I THINK THE FIRST TIME THAT COMMON COUNTY ALLOWED, UH, FIREWORKS, UH, MEMORIAL DAY HOLIDAY, I THINK IT WAS 2019.

UM, I WOULD SAY THAT OUR SALES HAVE DOUBLED EVERY YEAR, UM, THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, UM, ON THAT PARTICULAR HOLIDAY, AS PEOPLE GET TO BE MORE AWARE OF IT, UM, AS BEING A HOLIDAY.

SO I, I THINK IT'S A GREAT, IT'S A GREAT THING.

AND EVEN THE BONUS IS THAT MOST OF MY CUSTOMERS COME FROM DALLAS COUNTY THAT SPEND THEIR MONEY IN KAUFMAN COUNTY.

SO WIN-WIN OKAY.

CONCERN OVER ALL THE HOUSES ARE SO CLOSE TOGETHER AND ALL THE MUD DISTRICTS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO.

YOU SAID THAT YOU SAID THAT WE GENERATE MONEY FROM IT.

SO HOW DO WE GENERATE THE SALES TAXES AND WE DON'T CLINK SALES TAX, BUT YOU COLLECT SALES TAX WHERE YOU ARE, I DO CLOSE OFF SITES, BUT NOT FOR THE CITY BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT IN THE CITY LEMONS.

RIGHT? CORRECT.

SO THIS FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS, JUST FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS, BUT WE ALSO CLEAR THAT UP BECAUSE IT'S COMING FROM GANG DOES NOT MAKE MONEY OFF FIREWORK.

GOTCHA.

BUT CODMAN COUNTY DOESN'T AT ALL.

SO THERE'S NO SALES, NO SALES TAX.

NOW WE DON'T MAKE A NICKEL.

GOTCHA.

IT'S ALL PROPERTY TAX.

UM, I HAVE A, I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE.

I GUESS I STILL HAVEN'T EVER CHANGED MY MIND.

UM, I ALWAYS HAVE THE SENSE THAT THE ABUNDANT FIREWORKS IS PEOPLE USING THE BONO FIREWORKS AROUND THE COUNTY IS PROBABLY NOT, OH, IT TAKES US ONE HOUSE TO CATCH ON FIRE AND I THINK IT WOULDN'T BE WORTH IT.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT.

SO I THERE'S A NEVER SEEM LIKE A GOOD IDEA TO ME, PARTICULARLY FOR MEMORIAL DAY.

I, I SAID THIS BEFORE I THINK, BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S JUST VERY INAPPROPRIATE TO CELEBRATE MEMORIAL DAY WITH FIREWORKS, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S MY OPINION.

ANYWAY, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE SOMETHING THEY WON'T SAY ABOUT IT? UH, I WILL SAY THAT, UH, UM, THERE IS A LOT OF PUBLIC, UH, COMPLAINT REALLY ABOUT THE PROPENSITY FOR FIREWORKS TO BE, TO GO OFF ALL NIGHT LONG, WELL, BEYOND THE APPROPRIATE HOURS, YOU KNOW, IF THERE IS SUCH A THING.

UH, SO I, I, UH, MY NEIGHBORS AND HECK ALMOST EVERYBODY WORKS IN THE PRECINCT WAS, UH, CONCERNED ABOUT FIREWORKS WOULD GO OFF HALF THE NIGHT SO THAT THAT'S, UH, I THINK THAT IS A CONCERN.

AND I AGREE WITH, UH, THE JUDGE THAT MEMORIAL DAY IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S A DAY OF REFLECTION AND, AND APPRECIATION FOR SACRIFICE.

AND I'M NOT SURE THAT I THINK THAT FIREWORKS AS THE APPROPRIATE SORT OF RESPONSE TO THAT, TO THE SACRIFICE THAT WE'RE REALLY HONORING ON MEMORIAL DAY.

UH, I, YOU KNOW, AND I'M, I'M, I AGREE.

WELL, AND, AND OF ALL OF THE, OF THE COMMISSIONERS, YOU HAVE MORE SPECIAL DISTRICTS IN YOUR INSTINCT AND THERE'S NO ENFORCEMENT THERE.

RIGHT? I HAVE A BIG

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AND OF COURSE NOW TERRY OWNS ONE OF THE BIGGEST ONES NOW, TOO.

UH, THEY'RE JUST SO CLOSE TOGETHER AND THEY GO OFF ALL THAT NONSTOP.

I GET MORE COMPLAINTS FROM FIREWORKS NOW THAN I EVER HAVE IN EIGHT YEARS UP IN HERE.

IT'S, IT'S, IT'S UNBELIEVABLE.

THE, UH, THE BEATING I TOOK LAST YEAR OVER IT.

AND THEN MY ROAD CREW SPENT OVER A WEEK CLEANING UP MESS ON THE ROAD.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IT COST ME AS IT.

AND OF COURSE I ALSO AGREED THAT, YOU KNOW, MEMORIAL DAY IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE DAY TO BE CELEBRATING FIREWORKS FOR THE LOSS OF PEOPLE'S LIVES.

UM, AND ALSO THE FIRST ONE THAT YOU BRING UP IN THE IT FROM THE FEBRUARY 25TH, IT'S ALWAYS DRY HALF A STATE OF TEXAS BURNED UP IN FEBRUARY.

AND I THINK YEARS AGO WE ALREADY PASSED THE DEAL THAT SAID THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY ALLOW MEMORIAL DAY AND THE OTHER TWO DAYS.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, BUT THEY HAVE TO CHECK WITH US EVERY SINGLE YEAR.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE IT A FREE STANDING THING.

AND HE BROUGHT UP THE FACT, WELL, YOU GET TO CHECK THE STANDS EARLY, BUT THEY CLOSED THEM DOWN.

DON'T YOU HAVE TO COME BACK AND REPAIRMAN THEM FOR THE NEXT HOLIDAY.

CORRECT.

SO THEY'RE PERMANENTLY FOR THAT ONE HOLIDAY.

RIGHT? RIGHT.

SO THAT'S ALSO NOT A CORRECT STATEMENT THAT WAS MADE, SO IT WOULDN'T HELP A BIT.

WE, WE DON'T HAVE THE PERSONNEL TO TRACK DOWN ALL THE COMPLAINTS THAT WE GET SO WELL, AND IT'S NOT AGAINST THE LAW.

NO, IT'S A VIOLATION OF THE HOMEOWNER, A LOT OF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS, BUT YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY MINUTES JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T SELL THEM.

DON'T MEAN THEY STILL CAN'T POP THEM.

BUT IF, IF WE DIDN'T WITHIN ITSELF, IT MAKES IT A LITTLE HARDER SINCE DALLAS COUNTY CAN'T SELL THEM.

UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAYS, SO ROCK ON IT AND SELLING ME THAT I'LL CHECK WITH THEM.

I'M NOT SURE.

I WAS THINKING THEY DIDN'T, MAYBE THEY DID.

I DON'T KNOW.

UM, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, IT'S A, IT'S A BAD THING.

WE HAVE NO WAY TO ENFORCE IT.

THE CUSTOMER CAN ANSWER ALL THE CALLS IN, IN, UH, OUR, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

ANYBODY ELSE FOR ALL THE FIREWORKS GOING ON, IF THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT, THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A PUBLIC STREET AND A PUBLIC THING AND GET THEM FOR BLOCK AND ROAD, I GUESS, BUT I DON'T KNOW, JUST THE MASS, UH, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT THAT? I JUST THINK WE NEED TO TRUST WHAT OUR FIRE MARSHALL SAYS ABOUT THIS AND GO WITH HIS BEST ADVICE ON IT.

WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM SEVEN, BACK TO THE MARSHALL AGAIN, PRESENT FOR ACCEPTANCE, THE QUARTERLY REPORT, THE FAR MARSHALL'S OFFICE.

UM, WELL I THINK I CAN CALL FOR A MOTION.

UM, I'LL CALL PROMOTIONAL ITEM SIX, WHICH WOULD BE TO APPROVE THOSE RETAIL FIREWORKS PERMIT DATES.

WELL, HE SAID HE'D LIKE THAT COME BACK IN JUNE WITH HIM.

WELL, I THINK ABOUT AN ISSUE.

LET'S TAKE ACTION.

WELL, WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ANY ACTION.

THERE'S NO MOTION THAN IT.

IS THERE A MOTION? OKAY.

HEARING NONE.

THEN WE

[7. Paul Ayres; Present/Accept the Quarterly Report for the Fire Marshal's Office. ]

THAT WE CLASSIFIED AS IN SYDNEY.

SO I HANDED YOU ALL A PACKET, UH, WITH THE QUICK FACT SHEET ON TOP AND A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, DATA ANALYSIS IN THE BACK.

UH, SO ANY INVESTIGATIONS, UH, SIDE OF OUR JOB, WE'VE BEEN VERY BUSY.

WE'VE HAD 96 INITIAL FIRE INVESTIGATIONS, UH, BETWEEN JANUARY AND MARCH.

UH, 30% OF THOSE STRUCTURE FIRES, UH, ABOUT 12% ARE VEHICLE FIRES.

AND OF COURSE THE MAJORITY OF OUR FIRES ARE, UH, WILDLAND FIRES.

UH, ONE NUMBER THAT, UH, STOOD OUT TO ME IS THAT, UH, 70% OF THE INITIAL CALL-OUTS THAT WE GET ARE HAPPENING AFTER HOURS ON WEEKENDS OR ON HOLIDAYS.

UM, I KNOW THAT WHEN I'VE BEEN ON CALL, UH, ON THE WEEKEND, UH, YOU BASICALLY DON'T HAVE A WEEKEND.

YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOING TO BE CALLED OUT SATURDAY AND SUNDAY.

UM, IS THAT JUST BECAUSE MORE PEOPLE ARE HOME DOING STUFF OR WHY AREN'T YOU, IS THAT, UH, I'M NOT SURE.

UM, AND I'M GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT SOME MORE, UM, DATA FROM OTHER AGENCIES AND, AND TRY TO SEE WHAT, WHAT INFORMATION I CAN GATHER ON WHY THAT'S HAPPENING.

UM, BUT DURING THE DAY WE HAVE GRASS FIRES COME IN ABOUT AFTERNOON.

UM, BUT FOR SOME REASON, EVERYTHING ELSE IS COMING IN AFTER HOURS.

UM, SO OF COURSE THAT'S A CONCERN FOR US WITH COMP TIME AND MAKING SURE WE HAVE, UH, STAFFING AVAILABLE TO GO OUT AND WORK THESE CALLS.

UM, IF THEY'RE COMING FROM THE HOUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT RESPONSE TIMES UP TO 45 MINUTES, DEPENDING ON WHAT PART OF THE COUNTY WE'RE GOING INTO.

SO, UH, AS FAR AS INCENDIARY FIRES, WE HAD 33 INCIDENTS

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UH, SO THAT MEANS THAT, EXCUSE ME, THAT MEANS THAT SOMEBODY ACTUALLY TOOK A LIGHTER OR A MATCH AND, AND STARTED THE FIRE.

THEY MAY HAVE INTENDED TO DO THAT, TO BURN A BRUSH PILE.

UM, THEY MAY HAVE UNINTENTIONALLY SPREAD TO NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES, BUT, UH, 34% OF THE INCIDENTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, WERE STARTED BY SOMEBODY.

SO IT'S A PRETTY HIGH NUMBER.

UM, I DEFINITELY THINK THERE'S SOME ROOM FOR, UH, PUBLIC EDUCATION AND TRYING TO BRING THAT NUMBER DOWN AS WELL AS SOME MORE ENFORCEMENT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE, UM, CONSCIOUS OF WHEN THEY LIGHT THE FIRE.

THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT FIRES LIT.

SO A TOTAL LOSS BETWEEN THOSE THREE MONTHS WAS ABOUT $3.3 MILLION.

SO QUITE A BIT, UH, AND THE INSPECTION SIDE, UH, WE ISSUED 32 PERMITS.

UH, WE CONDUCTED 25 INSPECTIONS AND WE FOLLOWED UP ON 14 COMPLAINTS AS FAR AS ENFORCEMENT.

AND THIS INCLUDES BOTH IN INSPECTIONS AND INVESTIGATIONS.

UH, WE ISSUED THREE NOTICES OF VIOLATIONS, UH, FOR, UH, WE HAD ONE THAT WAS PILING UP BRUSH THEY'RE BASICALLY GOING AND DOING LANDSCAPE WORK ON AN OFFSITE LOCATION, BRING IT TO THEIR PROPERTY AND BRING IT THERE, UH, WHICH ISN'T ALLOWED.

SO WE DO NOTICE AS A VIOLATION, MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED AND FOLLOW UP FROM THERE.

UH, WE ISSUED 28 WARNINGS, FIVE CITATIONS, AND THEN WORKING WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, UH, WE HAD ONE ARREST AND ONE STOLEN PROPERTY, ONE STOLEN VEHICLE THAT WAS RECOVERED FROM, UH, FIRE SCENES.

UM, ON THE FOLLOWING PAGE, YOU'LL SEE A MAP LAID OUT.

UH, THIS IS A HEAT MAP OF ALL THE DIFFERENT INCIDENTS WE'VE HAD AROUND THE COUNTY.

UH, SO AS WE COLLECT MORE DATA, UH, OVER THE YEARS, WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE WHERE OUR HOTSPOTS ARE, UH, WHERE WE MAY NEED TO FOCUS OUR PUBLIC EDUCATION A LITTLE BIT MORE.

AND, UM, I ALSO PROVIDED A MAP ON THE LAST PAGE, WHICH IS SPECIFICALLY FOR ENFORCEMENT, SO WE CAN SEE WHERE WE'RE WRITING OUR CITATIONS AND ISSUING WARNINGS AS WELL.

WELL, ON THE SECOND PAGE, YOU, YOU LISTED NUMBER OF INCIDENTS, BUT YOU KNOW, IT SAYS STRUCTURE, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? SIX INCIDENTS STRUCTURE.

UH, SO THAT MEANS WE HAD SIX STRUCTURE FIRES IN THAT JURISDICTION.

YES, SIR.

AND THEY DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS SOMETHING ELSE OR WHAT.

UH, ON THE THIRD PAGE FOR PRECINCT FOR, UH, Y'ALL DID HAVE A HIGH LOSS.

THERE WAS ONE INCIDENT THAT RESULTED IN A $1 MILLION IS A LARGE EXCAVATOR.

UH, SO THAT KIND OF SKEWED THE DATA A LITTLE BIT.

AND THAT'S WHY YOUR, YOUR AMOUNT IS HIGHER.

UH, BUT IF YOU TOOK THAT OUT, UH, PRETTY MUCH EVERYONE'S ON PAR WITH ABOUT, UH, $550,000 LOSS PER PRECINCT.

WELL, HOW HAVE YOU DETERMINED THAT LOSS IS THAT BASED ON INSURANCE CLAIM? UH, SO WE LOOK AT THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT.

WE LOOK AT KELLY BLUE BOOK.

UM, WE DO HAVE, UH, WHAT'S CALLED THE INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL BUILDING VALUATION DATA.

UH, SO IT GIVES US A CHART OF BASED ON THIS CONSTRUCTION TYPE, UM, AND THIS OCCUPANCY TYPE, HOW MUCH WOULD IT COST TO REPLACE THIS STRUCTURE? SO WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT AND TRYING TO GIVE OUR BEST ESTIMATE.

DO YOU, DO YOU INCLUDE A DOLLAR FIGURE FOR LIKE A PASTURE FIRE, NICK? UH, WE DON'T FOR, FOR PACIFIERS, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD EVER, WE TYPICALLY PUT ZERO ON THOSE.

UH, IF THERE'S ROUND BALES, WE'LL, WE'LL GO TO THE AGRICULTURE, UH, WEBSITE AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THE GOING RATE IS FOR, FOR HAY BALES.

SO OF COURSE, IF HE LOSES A HAY MEADOW, YES, THAT'S AGRICULTURAL.

SO THERE, THAT IS A YES.

FINANCIAL LOSS FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER.

ABSOLUTELY.

SO WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING TO SEE, IS THERE SOME AGRICULTURAL LOSS AS WELL? WHAT KIND OF PLANS DO YOU HAVE IF ANY, YET, UH, FOR EDUCATING PEOPLE BETTER ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE DANGER OF FIRING ON THAT? YEAH, SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE, WE'RE PRETTY MUCH USING OUR FACEBOOK PAGE, UH, TRYING TO GET THAT OUT ON THERE.

UM, I HAVEN'T REALLY DONE, YOU KNOW, DOVE INTO THAT ISSUE YET ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO PUBLIC EDUCATION, BUT, UH, WE'VE GOT TO GET OUT IN THESE COMMUNITIES AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO BRING THESE NUMBERS DOWN.

I HAVE A ZONE, I HAVE AN IDEA FOR A PROJECT THAT, THAT MAYBE DONNA CAN HELP YOU WITH, UH, TO, SO I'LL ASK HER TO WORK WITH YOU ON THAT AND FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET, YOU KNOW, WE WERE WORKING, GETTING THE SCHOOL, AUDIO, VISUAL PEOPLE TO DO A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS FOR US, AND THEY'RE ENTHUSIASTIC.

SO EXCELLENT.

YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT TO DO.

AND YOU'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE BEHAVIOR THROUGH REACHING THE CHILDREN.

YEP.

IS WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE BEHAVIOR.

IT WON'T BE IMMEDIATE OVER TIME, OVER TIME, OVER TIME.

AND WE HAVE A LOT OF SCHOOLS, OUR JURISDICTION, SO, YEAH.

HOW TO DO AUDIO VISUAL AND VIDEO EDITING AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

AND WE'VE FOUR OR FIVE DISTRICTS, FOUR DISTRICTS PROBABLY THAT HAVE PRETTY BIG, BIG A CAREER IN TECH PROGRAMS THAT ARE TEACHING KIDS

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SO THEY'RE A GREAT ASSET.

WE NEED TO USE THEM AND THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THINGS TO DO.

ABSOLUTELY.

UH, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE FIRE? MARSHALL? THANK YOU.

UH, THANKS FOR THE REPORT, BUT, UH, SO ITEM SEVEN, IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE QUARTERLY REPORT FOR THE FARM MARSHALL'S OFFICE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WE HAVE THE MOTION I'M COMING FROM BARBERS OR SECOND I'LL SECOND SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER HUNT, DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

YOU ASKED MY HOLLAND PRESENT FOR ACCEPTANCE THAT KAUFMAN COUNTY LIBRARIES, TEXAS STATE AND ARCHIVE COMMISSION ANNUAL REPORT FOR FYI 2021 AND HER QUARTERLY REPORT.

NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES NEXT UP.

[8. Yasma Holland; Present/Accept the Kaufman County Library's Texas State and Archive Commission annual report for FY2021 and quarterly report. ]

AND RICHARD'S COMMISSIONERS.

UM, PART OF BEING A ACCREDITED LIBRARY THROUGH THE TEXAS STATE LIBRARY AND ARCHIVES COMMISSION REQUIRES THAT YOU FILE AN ANNUAL REPORT EVERY YEAR.

UM, IT IS USUALLY DUE IN THE SPRING OF THE FOLLOWING FISCAL YEAR.

IT IS A QUANTITATIVE REPORT OF EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR THAT FOR FISCAL, FOR THIS ONE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2021.

UM, AS FAR AS HOW MANY BOOKS YOU CHECK OUT, HOW MANY BOOKS YOU HAVE ON THE SHELF, HOW MANY HOURS ARE OPEN, THE NUMBER OF STAFF, THE NUMBER OF COMPUTERS YOU HAVE.

UM, SO ALL OF THAT IS IN THIS REPORT.

IT ALSO DOES THE FINANCIAL PART OF IT AND THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE.

I SHOULD THANK THEM BECAUSE THEY HELPED ME GET ALL OF THESE NUMBERS TOGETHER TO DO THAT, BUT HOW MUCH WE SPEND ON OUR COLLECTION.

AND THEN THE MAINTENANCE OF EFFORT IS ONE OF THE KEY POINTS OF HOW MUCH OUR LOCAL GOVERNING AUTHORITIES CONTRIBUTE TO THE COUNTY.

THERE ARE SOME FORMULAS THAT THE STATE USES TO, UM, DEVISE HOW MUCH THE COUNTY SHOULD BE, OR OUR GOVERNING AUTHORITIES SHOULD BE CONTRIBUTING AS WELL AS, UM, HOW MUCH PER CAPITA THAT WE SHOULD BE SPENDING ON EVERYONE THAT THE KAUFMAN COUNTY SERVES.

SO THE LIBRARIES, UM, ALL ACCREDITED LIBRARIES AND IN YOUR COUNTY, UM, HAVE A NUMBER THAT THE STATE ASIDES, AS FAR AS YOUR POPULATION AND IT'S DIVIDED BY ALL OF THE ACCREDIT LIBRARIES.

SO US TERRELL CRANDALL COMBINED SHARE THE POPULATION FOR KAUFMAN COUNTY.

SO KAUFMAN COUNTY LIBRARY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ALMOST 26,000 PEOPLE JUST IN OUR SERVICE AREA, EVEN THOUGH WE SERVE THE WHOLE COUNTY AND THE BORDERING COUNTIES.

SO THERE'S REPORT BASICALLY AS FAR AS THE NUMBER SAYS THAT, UM, IF ALL OF THOSE 26,000 PEOPLE THAT WE SERVE WALKED INTO THE LIBRARY, THEY COULD CHECK OUT ONE TO TWO ITEMS, LEAVE OUT OF THE LIBRARY AND THAT WE'RE SPENDING AT LEAST $5 AND 63 CENTS PER PERSON THAT COMES THROUGH ON OUR SERVICE AREA.

UM, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE NUMBERS FOR 20 AND 21 WERE A LOT LOWER THAN IF YOU LOOKED AT THE FISCAL YEAR, 20, 20, 20, 19, JUST BECAUSE OF THE COVID PROTOCOLS.

WE WEREN'T DOING ANY IN-PERSON PROGRAMMING.

UM, LESS PEOPLE WERE COMING IN, BUT WHERE WE ARE NOW FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022, WE'RE GOING TO EXCEED, WE'LL BE BACK TO THOSE NUMBERS BECAUSE OUR USERS ARE BACK.

WE'RE DOING ALL OF OUR IN-PERSON PROGRAMMING.

UM, NEW PEOPLE ARE COMING IN EVERY DAY GETTING LIBRARY CARDS.

SO, UM, YEAH, I THINK THAT'S ALL I NEED TO SAY ABOUT THAT.

AND THE NEXT PART IS JUST OUR, UM, AND I DO WANT TO SAY SOME OF THE BENEFITS OF BEING ACCREDITED IS THE GRANTS THAT THE STATE LIBRARY TRICKLES DOWN FOR US.

WE HAVE USED THOSE IN THE PAST TO PR TO PURPOSELY, UM, BY OUR COMPUTERS.

SO WE HAVE FUNDED.

MOST OF, WE USUALLY DON'T USE OUR BUDGET TO BUY OUR COMPUTERS IN THE LIBRARY.

WE'VE USED THOSE GRANTS THROUGH THEIR, UM, THE ILL SERVICES, WHICH IS THE RECIPROCAL BORROWING BETWEEN LIBRARIES IS A BENEFIT.

AND THEN THERE'S JUST LIKE A PLEATHER OF DATABASES THAT THEY PROVIDE AT A DISCOUNTED PRICE FOR US.

SO THAT IS OUR ANNUAL REPORT.

AND THEN THE NEXT PART IS TO START QUARTERLY REPORT, UM, FROM JANUARY TO MARCH, UM, ON ONE OF THE PAGES, IT SHOWS THE, THE NEW CARD APPLICATIONS THAT WE DO ON THEIR STATISTICS PAGE.

AND IF IN MARCH AND IN NOVEMBER, UM, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE INCREASED IT BY ABOUT 5% AND THAT IS DUE TO EARLY VOTING AND THE VOTING THAT WE DO WITH THE LIBRARY NOW, SO PEOPLE WILL GO VOTE AND THEN THEY COME AND GET THEIR LIBRARY CARD.

SO THOSE NUMBERS ARE THAT THEY, AND IT'S TRUE FOR THIS PARTICULAR TIME TOO, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE IN THE SECOND DAY OF EARLY VOTING FOR THE CITY SCHOOL AND BOND ELECTIONS, WE SLEPT A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE COMING IN GETTING OUR LIBRARY CARDS.

SO THAT'S ALWAYS A REALLY GOOD MOVEMENT MOVING VOTING.

THERE WAS A GOOD THING.

BUT, UM, SO WE'RE BACK INTO OUR FULL MOTIVE PROGRAMMING RIGHT NOW.

THE VOTING THERE IS, I'M HOPING IT'S GOING TO GET BETTER.

IT'S BEEN WORKING OUT.

SO WE HAVE, WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF NEW PEOPLE.

IT'S AMAZING HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE COMING IN FROM FLORIDA AND CALIFORNIA AND MOVING INTO THE, AND I'M SURE Y'ALL SEE THOSE STATISTICS TOO, OF COMING IN AND GETTING THOSE LIBRARY CARDS.

SO,

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UH, IT'S SUMMER READING PROGRAM.

WE'RE GETTING READY TO KICK THAT OFF AT THE BEGINNING OF JUNE, WE'VE EXTENDED IT THROUGH THE END OF JUNE TO THE END OF JULY.

WE USUALLY GO SIX WEEKS, BUT WE'RE GONNA, UM, KIND OF SPREAD IT OUT SO WE CAN SPREAD OUT OUR PROGRAMS AND OFFER MORE AND NOT JUST PACK UP THE LIBRARY.

LIKE WE USUALLY DO.

UM, SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS I'LL JUST GO, WE DID SOME THINGS FOR SPRING BREAK WAS CELEBRATED, DR.

SEUSS'S BIRTHDAY.

UM, WE HAD THE MASS READING CHALLENGE IN MARCH AND THE FRIENDS BROUGHT BACK BOOK AND AUTHOR LUNCHING, WHICH IS ONE OF THEIR BIG FUNDRAISERS FOR THE LIBRARY.

UM, COMMISSIONER KATE'S DROPPED BY AND COMMISSIONER HUNT'S WIFE ALSO ATTENDED THAT WHEN THE FRIENDS TOTALLY SUPPORT, UM, OUR SUMMER READING PROGRAM IN ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS. SO THIS YEAR THEY WILL CONTRIBUTE LIKE OVER $8,000 JUST TO SUPPORT OUR SUMMER READING PROGRAMS. SO THAT ORGANIZATION WORKS LIKE A WELL-OILED MACHINE.

AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE NEED THROUGH THE COURSE OF THE YEAR, THEY PROVIDE THAT FOR US TOO.

SO DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME OR WHAT THE REPORTS, SO Y'ALL, WE'RE GETTING READY FOR A BUSY SUMMER.

WE'RE GETTING READY FOR A BUSY SUMMER.

WE'RE ANTICIPATING WE'RE BETWEEN 18 AND 2000 KIDS.

UM, THE SUMMER READING PROGRAM IS FROM ADULTS AS WELL TOO, BUT YEAH, WE'RE GETTING READY.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT THE WIRELESS SESSIONS OR THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT PULL UP IN THE PARKING LOT AND USE THE WIFI? I KNEW THERE WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE YOU SEE THERE ALL THE TIME WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING BY, BUT MAN, I DIDN'T KNOW THE NUMBERS WITH THAT.

AND EVEN THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SITTING IN THE LIBRARY, SO STUDENTS THAT COME IN, UM, OR ANYONE CAN COME IN AND CONNECT ON OUR WIRELESS.

SO, BUT A LOT, IF YOU COME IN THE MORNINGS BEFORE WE OPEN AT EIGHT, NINE, I MEAN A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE PARKING LOT, LOT OF, UM, COMPANIES, A LOT OF COMPANY TRUCKS, I'M SURE JUST GETTING THEIR AGENDAS FOR THE DAY DURING THE POP A LOT AT LUNCHTIME PEOPLE COME OVER AND USE THE WIRELESS AND IT'S OPEN 24 7.

THE WIRELESS IS SO, AND NOW WITH THE WIRELESS PRINTING, YOU CAN ACTUALLY BE IN YOUR CAR AND PRINT AND COME IN THE LIBRARY AND PICK UP YOUR DOCUMENTS.

SO THAT HAS REALLY OPENED IT UP.

I'LL BE WORKING WITH NATHAN ON BETTER CAPTURING THEIR STATISTICS, UM, AS LIKE, UM, USING SOME MORE SOFTWARE TO DO THAT.

SO, YEAH, IT'S JUST AMAZING.

I SAW THOSE NUMBERS AND STUFF.

GET A BIGGER PARKING LOT AT PRISON.

UM, LIBRARIES ARE NOT JUST ABOUT CHECKING OUT BOOKS.

NO, NOT ANYMORE.

NO, IT'S NOT.

THEY REALLY BECOME, I THINK LIBRARIES EVERYWHERE BECOME A, UH, ORGANIZATION FOR PROGRAMMING.

UH, INTERNET ACCESS, ALL SORTS OF TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES FOR HOUSING.

YOU SAID IT BEST ONE TIME.

THIS IS LIKE YOUR GIFT BACK TO YOUR COMMUNITY.

IT'S FREE.

ANYBODY, EVERYBODY CAN COME IN THERE AT ANY TIME.

SO YEAH, I THINK THAT POINTS OUT THAT INTERNET USAGE ALSO POINTS OUT HOW CRITICAL THE STUDY THAT WE HAVE GOING ON RIGHT NOW IN THE COUNTY FOR, UH, EXPANDING RURAL ACCESS TO THE INTERNET.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST A, IT'S JUST A NECESSITY, YOU KNOW, IN THESE MODERN TIMES.

SO THOSE PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE HIGH-SPEED INTERNET ACCESS AT THEIR, UM, AND THAT'S REALLY EVIDENT TOO, WHEN, UM, THE INTERNET DOES GO DOWN AND PLACES.

AND FOR SOME REASON, OURS IS STILL ON.

AND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WORK FROM HOME, THEY'RE AT THE LIBRARY FINISHING UP THEIR WORK.

SO THAT'S AMAZING TOO.

WELL, THANK YOU.

THIS IS IT'S SLOWER.

UH, IT'S A GOOD TIME TOO.

AS LONG AS YOU COMMISSIONER, AS LONG AS YOU BROUGHT THAT UP, IT'S A REALLY GOOD TIME TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THERE IS A SURVEY OUT THERE.

YOU CAN FIND IT ON COFFIN COUNTY.NET.

THAT'S IT'S IT'S IN A LOT OF PLACES.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS SURVEY IS TO IDENTIFY AREAS OF KAUFMAN COUNTY THAT DO NOT HAVE HIGH SPEED INTERNET ACCESS OR ANY INTERNET ACCESS.

BECAUSE THE INFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN USED BEFORE BY THE FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION IS VERY INACCURATE.

AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS GET A REALLY GOOD PICTURE BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY DO NOT HAVE INTERNET ACCESS.

SO IF YOU, IF YOU ANYONE WHO IT'S EASY TO, IT'S A QUICK SURVEY.

IT DOESN'T TAKE A LONG TIME.

AND IT'S, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

WE'RE, WE'RE HOPING THAT EVERYBODY WILL PARTICIPATE.

I HAVEN'T DONE MINE YET, BUT I WILL.

THE MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

SO WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US IS, UH, LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE STATE IN ARCHIVE COMMISSION, ANNUAL REPORT AND THE LIBRARY QUARTERLY REPORT.

IS THERE A MOTION TO DO THAT? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER CAGE DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE OPPOSED.

NO MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU, YASMIN.

AND PRESENT FOR ACCEPTANCE.

[9. Chuck Mohnkern; Present/Accept the Treasurer's monthly report for March 2022. ]

ITEM NINE, CHECK MONCUR

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THE TREASURER'S MONTHLY REPORT FOR MARCH, 2022 MORNING JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.

WE, UH, STARTED OFF THE MONTH OF MARCH WITH $42,817,000 IN FUND TO 10, UH, RECEIPTS AMOUNT OF TO 2 MILLION, 156,590 DISBURSEMENTS, 4 MILLION 9 58, 6 60.

SO AT THE END OF THE MONTH, WE HAD A BALANCE OF 40 MILLION, $15,734.

WE ARE AN INTEREST OF $4,340 ON AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK ACCOUNTS.

THE, UH, EARNINGS ON OUR BALANCES IN TEXT POOL AND TEXTS, CLASS, TEXAS CLASS, UH, $23,222 FOR A TOTAL LEARNINGS OF 27,562.

WE HAVE 49 MILLION, $663,376 INVESTED IN TECH SCHOOL, 45 MILLION, $634,841 IN TEXAS CLASS.

GOOD NEWS INTEREST RATES ARE COMING UP A LITTLE BIT ANYWAY.

UH, OUR AVERAGE YIELD ON TEXTS POOL THIS MONTH 0.2716% AVERAGE YIELD ON TEXAS CLASS 0.2857%.

WE HAVE A $61,848,758 IN THE AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK'S ACCOUNTS.

AT THE END OF THE MONTH, THEY HAVE US COLLATERALIZED AT 235,988,000 5 22.

SO WE ARE EXTREMELY WELL COLLATERALIZED.

UH, WE HAVE 95 MILLION, $298,218 INVESTED 61 MILLION 8 48, 7 58 CASH IN THE BANK, OUR, UM, TOTAL RECEIPTS FOR THE MONTH, $3,850,178.

AND WE WROTE 491 RECEIPTS DURING THE MONTH FOR THAT TOTAL.

ANY QUESTIONS? UH, IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS FOR MR. MANCHA NEWS OR A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE TREASURER'S MONTHLY REPORT, IT IS PRESENTED.

SO MOVE WHERE THAT MOTION, COMMISSIONER AND CASE IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER BARBARA DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE OPPOSED.

NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES BACK.

COMMISSIONER

[10. Chuck Mohnkern; Present/Accept the Treasurer's quarterly report for the first quarter of 2022. ]

MARTIN FROM AGAIN, PRESENT FOR ACCEPTANCE, THE TREASURES QUARTERLY REPORT FOR THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2022.

YEAH, THIS IS FOR THE FIRST QUARTER OF THE CALENDAR YEAR, 2022, JANUARY THROUGH MARCH.

UH, WE HAVE 49, UH, ENDED THAT QUARTER WITH, UH, 49,000,660 3003 76 INVESTED IN TEXT POOL, 45 MILLION, 6 34, 8 41 INVESTED IN TEXAS CLASS.

THERE WAS A 14 MILLION, 4 54 TO 48 IN, UH, INTEREST BEARING ACCOUNTS IN THE AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK.

WE EARNED OVER THE, UH, QUARTER $11,618 ON AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK ACCOUNTS, 17,000 8 41 ON TEXTBOOK ACCOUNTS, $21,282 ON TEXAS CLASS ACCOUNTS FOR A TOTAL EARNINGS OF $50,742 DURING THE FIRST QUARTER OF THE YEAR.

ANY QUESTIONS IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, UH, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE TREASURER'S QUARTERLY REPORT FOR THE FIRST QUARTER OF 22? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

WE HAD MOTION COMMISSIONER HUNT.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE OPPOSED.

NO MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU, SIR.

[11. Desiree Pool; Present/Accept the Indigent Health quarterly report. ]

NEXT UP.

DESERET POOL PRESENT FOR ACCEPTANCE.

THE INDIGENT HEALTH QUARTERLY REPORT.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

HOW'S EVERYONE DOING TODAY? GOOD MORNING.

DID, Y'ALL GOT A COPY OF THE REPORT.

SO, UH, I GUESS YOU NOTICED THAT, UM, THE NUMBERS ARE DOWN ABOUT 50% AND WE FOUND OUT WHY.

SO, UM, I GUESS THE HOSPITALS MAY BE HAVING SOME TURNAROUND GOING ON.

UM, BUT LAST WEEK WE HAD, UM, A HOSPITAL TO REACH OUT TO US TRAIN, UH, THE OMAN, HOW WE WORK.

UM, LILY HAD A PHONE CALL FROM THE KAUFMAN HOSPITAL, THE YOUNG LADY THAT WORKED THERE.

SHE'S NO LONGER THERE.

PARKLAND HOSPITAL HAS GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE MOVING IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS IN DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.

SO IT'S LIKE HAVING TO START OVER AGAIN AND TRAIN.

SO THAT'S WHY THE NUMBERS ARE DOWN RIGHT NOW.

SO DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING? NO,

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NOT REALLY.

IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE INDIGENT HEALTH QUARTERLY REPORT IS PRESENTED? SO WE'LL MOVE THAT MOTION.

COMMISSIONER CATES.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SAY SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER BARBARA, DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

NO MOTION CARRIES IT'S IT'S MORNING DESERET.

YOU SAID GOOD AFTERNOON.

DON'T DON'T SPEED IT UP.

UH,

[12. Robert Hunter; Present/Accept the Veterans Services quarterly report for 2nd Qtr., FY 22. ]

NEXT STEP.

ROBERT HUNTER PRESENT FOR ACCEPTANCE, THE VETERAN SERVICES QUARTERLY REPORT FOR THE SECOND QUARTER OF FISCAL YEAR.

SO BEFORE I START ON THE REPORT, I KNOW THAT EACH OF YOU RECEIVED A COPY OF IT.

I'D JUST LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO EXPRESS MY DEEP GRATIFICATION FOR EACH OF YOU FOR ALL OF THE SUPPORT THAT YOU'VE GIVEN THE VETERAN SERVICES OFFICE, UH, OVER THE LAST YEAR, UM, WE'VE, WE'VE GOT, UH, A NEW TEMPORARY FACILITY AS YOU WILL, WHICH IS WORKING OUT REALLY, REALLY WELL.

UH, WE'VE EXPANDED THE SIZE OF OUR, UM, UH, STAFF.

WE'VE, WE'VE GOT AN ADDITIONAL STAFF MEMBER, UH, SO THINGS ARE REALLY GOING GREAT.

AND I THINK WHEN YOU START TO SEE THE NUMBERS AND THE REPORTS AND EVERYTHING, WE'LL, UH, YOU'LL SEE SOME, SOME OF THE DIFFERENCES THAT THAT MAKES, UM, OUT OF COUNTY TICKETS WE'RE, UH, WE'RE BACK UP TO A PRETTY HIGH NUMBERS.

UH, WE AT 19, UM, MOST OF THEM CAME FROM, UH, DALLAS COUNTY IN HENDERSON COUNTY.

I THINK EACH OF THOSE COUNTIES HAD FIVE EACH, UH, THE REST OF THEM ARE JUST ONESY, TWOSY TYPE THINGS, UH, AND PRETTY CONSISTENT.

BUT, UH, THE OVERALL NUMBER FOR OUT OF COUNTY WAS BACK UP TO 19, WHICH IS, UH, CONSISTENT WITH OUR AVERAGE, SINCE WE STARTED TRACKING THE STATS, OUR AVERAGE OUT OF COUNTY PER MONTH OR PER QUARTER IS ABOUT 14.

SO WE'RE BACK UP OVER OUR AVERAGE AS WE ARE IN ALL STATS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF OFFICE VISITS, WHICH I THINK, UM, ARE NOT CLIMBING AS FAST BECAUSE OF THE FIRST HIGHLIGHT IN THE REPORT.

UM, OR ACTUALLY THE SECOND HIGHLIGHT IN THE REPORT, THE VET PRO SOFTWARE IS IT, MAN, THAT THING IS JUST TURNING OUT TO BE ONE OF THE BEST THINGS THAT, UH, WE'VE WE'VE DONE SINCE I GOT HERE.

UM, THIS THING IS ALLOWING US TO SERVICE VETERANS, BASICALLY FROM THEIR HOMES.

THEY'RE NOT PHYSICALLY HAVING TO COME TO THE OFFICE TO DO A CLAIM.

UM, THEY CAN EMAIL ME A COPY OF THEIR DD TWO 14.

UH, WE CAN THEN GET ON THE PHONE.

I CAN CREATE THEIR DATA PROFILE INSIDE VET PRO.

I CAN THEN CREATE THE SOFTWARE OR THE T THE, UH, THE TRANSACTION DOCUMENTS THAT PRO WILL THEN SEND IT TO THEM, UM, MUCH LIKE A DOCUSIGN WHEN YOU BUY A HOUSE.

UM, AND SO THEN THEY'RE ABLE TO SEND THAT BACK TO ME WITH THEIR THEY'RE ABLE TO DIGITALLY SIGN, SEND THAT BACK TO ME.

AND VET PRO HAS BEEN VETTED THROUGH THE VA TO WHERE THAT SIGNATURE HAS, UH, A WATERMARK AND CERTAIN SECURITY FEATURES.

AND THE VA WILL THEN I CAN THEN IMMEDIATELY FROM THE OFFICE DIRECTLY UPLOAD THAT STRAIGHT TO THE VA.

AND TYPICALLY WITHIN 48, UH, TYPICALLY WITHIN ABOUT 48 HOURS, THE VA HAS IT, IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY IN A FOLDER THAT I, AS, UH, BEING ACCREDITED, HAVE ACCESS TO.

SO THE VET PRO TREMENDOUS.

UM, AND THEN OF COURSE THAT KEEPS IN LINE WITH ONE OF OUR GOALS FROM, YOU KNOW, UH, PREVIOUS YEARS IN, WE WERE TRYING TO GO PAPERLESS AND I'M PROUD TO REPORT THAT, UH, WE NO LONGER HAVE PAPER FILES ON ANY VETERAN.

WE ARE NOW, UH, WITH THE ADDITION OF THE NEW STAFF MEMBERS, SHE WAS ABLE TO FINISH THAT, THAT SCANNING AND WE ARE NOW PAPERLESS IN THE OFFICE.

WE DON'T MAINTAIN ANY PAPER FILES ANY LONGER.

THAT IS OUTSTANDING.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, UH, LAST MONTH I WENT OUT TO, UM, THE, UM, SILVER SPRINGS IN FORNEY OVER THERE IN YOUR AREA, UH, MR. PHILLIPS AND, UH, SPOKE TO A BUNCH OF THE SENIOR, UH, COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT ARE VETERANS AND PROVIDED THEM WITH OPTIONS TO ALSO, UM, WORKING WITH THE STAFF OF SILVER SPRINGS, UH, TO, TO SET UP INTERNET TO WHERE WE CAN DO THINGS ELECTRONICALLY, AS WELL AS WE HAVE A FOLLOW-UP APPOINTMENT, UM, THAT WE WANT TO SET UP TO COME BACK OUT THERE AND WORK FOR THOSE THAT AREN'T SAVVY WITH THE INTERNET.

SO, YEAH, THAT WAS AWESOME.

UH, SHE, SHE MANAGED TO, SHE MANAGED TO KNOCK OUT REALLY EVERYTHING I HAD LEFT AT FIRST MONTH THAT SHE WAS THERE.

SO I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE.

BELINDA IS WORKING OUT REALLY GREAT.

AND, UH, I JUST SEE US GETTING BETTER AND BIGGER AND BETTER.

SOME OF THE OTHER HIGHLIGHTS FOR VETERANS' SERVICES.

UM, WE'VE RESUMED OUR, OUR MONTHLY PARTICIPATION, UH, EVERY MONTH.

UH, THERE'S A FRIDAY EVERY MONTH THAT I'LL GO OUT TO JACKIE'S, THERE'S A, A VETERAN SUPPORT GROUP THAT TAKES PLACE IN THE EVENING TIME, TYPICALLY SIX TO NINE O'CLOCK.

UM, AND SO WE'VE RESUMED THAT AGAIN.

AND SO I ATTEND THAT MOST RECENTLY WAS THIS PAST FRIDAY.

UM, AND SO, UH, WE GO OUT THERE, UM, WORK WITH VETERANS, UH, PARTICIPATE IN SOME THERAPY PROGRAMS, UH, AND EVENTS.

AND THEN OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, OFFER ASSISTANCE IN THE AREAS THAT OUR OFFICE WILL DO WHILE WE'RE THERE.

UM, SO WE DO THAT, UM, ADDITIONALLY, UH, IN ADDITION TO, I SHOULD SAY, UH, TO JACKIE'S AND, AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, WE ALSO ARE NOW DOING OUR, UM, UH, OUT INTO THE TOWN, UM, COMMUNITY EVENTS.

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SO TH TH THE VET PROS, SOME FOLKS AREN'T, AREN'T SAVVY WITH IT, BUT NOT AS MANY AS, NOT AS MANY AS YOU MAY THINK.

SO THAT'S A REALLY NEAT THING.

AND THEN, UH, THE LAST THING WE ARE, UM, WE ARE PLANNING FOR OUR MEMORIAL DAY EVENT TAKE PLACE ON MEMORIAL DAY, UM, HOPE TO SEE EACH OF YOU THERE.

UM, AS IN PREVIOUS YEARS FOR MEMORIAL DAY, THE AMERICAN LEGION POST 1 65, THEY'LL SERVE LUNCH AFTERWARDS.

AND, UH, I WILL UPDATE YOU WITH, UH, ADDITIONAL THINGS AND, AND WHATNOT THAT WILL BE TAKING PLACE THAT DAY AS, AS WE IRON THEM OUT.

WE'LL HAVE, UH, ANOTHER MEETING THE FIRST WEEK OF MAY WITH THE, UM, FRIENDS OF KAUFMAN COUNTY, UH, GROUP, YOU KNOW, THAT TYPICALLY PUTS THAT TOGETHER FOR THE MOST PART.

ANY QUESTIONS, UH, JUST A COMMENT, THE, THE SHEET THAT YOU DO COMPARISON BY QUARTER YEAR OVER YEAR IS, UH, THAT THAT'S A REALLY GOOD DOCUMENT FOR ME, HELPS ME UNDERSTAND WHAT THE, UH, HOW THINGS ARE FLOWING.

THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.

THE, SO IF YOU'LL NOTICE THAT, UH, THE OFFICE TICKETS ARE DOWN, OR IT'S NOT THAT THEY'RE DOWN, BUT THEY DIDN'T HAVE A SHARP ARISE AS SAY THE PHONE TICKETS DO, AND THAT'S BECAUSE I'M ABLE TO DO, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I W I WAS SITTING THERE LOOKING AT EVERY ONE OF THOSE STATS ARE UP EXCEPT FOR OFFICE VISITS.

IN FACT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PHONE CALL TICKETS, THEY'RE THE HIGHEST WE'VE DONE SINCE WE STARTED TRACKING NUMBERS, THAT'S THE HIGHEST TOTAL FOR A QUARTER SINCE WE'VE STARTED THIS PROCESS.

AND I'M LIKE, HOW COME? AND THEN IT, THEN IT CLICKED.

IT'S BECAUSE I'VE PROBABLY DONE 20 OR 25 SERVICE, YOU KNOW, TRANSACTIONS WITH VETERANS THROUGH VET PRO THAT DIDN'T PHYSICALLY HAVE THEM COME TO THE OFFICE.

WHEREAS IN THE PAST, A TICKET WILL START OFF AS A PHONE CALL TICKET.

BUT WHEN THEY COME TO THE OFFICE TO DO THAT TRANSACTION, WE SWITCH IT FROM PHONE TO OFFICE.

CAUSE I ALWAYS PRIORITIZE IT OR PRIORITIZE IT FOR YOU ON WHICH ONE IT FIND IT FINISHED AS.

AND SO THAT'S WHY THE OFFICE VISITS DIDN'T SEE SUCH A SHARP ARISE AS THE OTHER ONES DID AND WHY THE PHONE TICKETS ARE EVEN HIGHER OR THEIR, THEIR RISE.

THIS QUARTER WAS EVEN HIGHER ON AVERAGE THAN THE OTHER TWO STATS THAT WERE ALSO UP.

DO YOU NEED TO ADD A CATEGORY FOR, UH, FOR VET PRO OR FOR ONLINE, UH, TICKETS THAT YOU'RE DOING, WHERE THERE, I GUESS YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING THAT THERE'S NO PHONE CALL INVOLVED, RIGHT.

IF WE TRACK VET PRO, THEN WE WOULD PRETTY MUCH HAVE ALMOST ALL OF OUR TICKETS BE VET PRO TICKETS, BECAUSE ANY TRANSACTION I DO, WHETHER IT BE OFFICE OR PHONE OR THROUGH THE MAIL, IT'S ALL NOW GOING THROUGH THAT PROPOSAL.

WHEN, WHEN I WAS HERE IN THIS BUILDING, WE HAD A FAX MACHINE AND WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS, IS A VETERAN WOULD COME TO THE OFFICE.

WE WOULD FILL OUT THE PAPERWORK.

I WOULD FILL THAT OUT ON COMPUTER, BUT THEN WE WOULD HIT PRINT.

THEY WOULD PHYSICALLY SIGN IT, WE WOULD FAX IT.

AND THEN WE WOULD SCAN, UH, THE COPY OF THAT FAX TRANSMISSION, PUT THAT IN THEIR ELECTRONIC FOLDER AND GIVE THEM THE PAPER COPIES.

WELL, NOW WE'RE NOT DOING THAT AT ALL.

IN FACT, I DON'T EVEN HAVE A FAX MACHINE.

WE JUST GOT A FAX, THE ELECTRONIC FAXING CAPABILITIES, UH, MR. UH, COLLINS JUST SET US UP WITH AN ELECTRONIC FAX SO THAT DOCTORS, UH, COULD FAX MEDICAL EVIDENCE IN SUPPORT OF THEIR VETERANS BECAUSE YOU CAN'T EMAIL THAT STUFF.

YOU CAN FAX IT.

SO, UM, I THINK IF WE DID A VET PRO TICKET, WE WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, NOW THE VET PROGRAM, I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT IDENTIFYING WHICH, CAUSE I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE DOING SOME OF THESE TRANSACTIONS ELECTRONICALLY ALTOGETHER.

YES, SIR.

YEP.

SO THAT'S PROBABLY THE MAJORITY OF THE PHONE PROBLEM.

PROBABLY THE MAJORITY OF THE, ALL THE PHONE CALLS TO DO THAT WOULD BE, IF IT'D BE HELPFUL TO YOU, EVEN, EVEN THE OFFICE VISITS ARE VET PRO.

CAUSE EVEN IF THEY COME TO THE OFFICE.

IT'S OUT IN THE PARKING LOT, IF YOU HELP THEM, THAT'S THE IMPORTANT PART.

BUT I, YEAH.

PHONE ARE GOING TO BE BAD PRO ANYWAY, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO, AND IT RESULTS IN A TRANSACTION THAT GOES TO THE VA.

IT WILL ALWAYS, IT WILL ALWAYS UTILIZE THE VET PRO UNLESS IT'S A CEMETERY AFFAIR.

AND THEN THAT GOES THROUGH A DIFFERENT ORIGIN.

IT GOES TO THE VA, BUT NOT THROUGH BET PRO I THINK THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THIS, THE TOTAL NUMBER, THIS SHOWS WHAT YOU'RE DOING TO HELP THEM.

I MEAN, TO ME, IT'S JUST THE TOTAL NUMBER.

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER IT'S ON THE PHONE, WHETHER IT'S IN PERSON, WHETHER

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SO, UH, THERE ARE NO MORE QUESTIONS FOR ROBERT.

IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE VETERANS QUARTERLY REPORT FOR THE SECOND QUARTER 20 TO MAKE THAT MONEY? THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER IN CAGE DISCUSSION IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING I WAS POSED.

NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES NEXT UP.

MONIQUE

[13. Monique Hunter; Present/Accept the Development Services quarterly report. ]

HUNTER PRESENT FOR ACCEPTANCE TO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, QUARTERLY REPORT.

UM, I MADE A GARRETT STICK AROUND BECAUSE, UM, HE PASSED HIS ENGINEERING TEST AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE RECOGNIZED THAT IT WAS A VERY LONG HAUL.

HE HAS WORKED HARD AND YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY HE'S GOING TO GET THAT GOLDEN SEAL THAT EVERYBODY COVETS AS AN ENGINEER.

SO, UM, I GAVE YOU GUYS MY REPORT AND JUDGE YOU'LL NOTICE I ADDED LAST YEAR IS BACK ON, SO YOU COULD DO A COMPARISON.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SO, UM, UM, IN OUR DEPARTMENT STARTS IS OUR BUSY SEASON HAS STARTED.

SO NOT THAT IT EVER STOPPED, BUT BECAUSE OF THE COLD, IT'S A LITTLE HARDER TO DROP STUFF INTO THE GROUND.

SO THEY ARE OFTEN RUNNING.

THE INSPECTIONS ARE STARTING TO COME IN AND WE ARE SPREADING OURSELVES A LITTLE THIN ON THAT ONE, BUT YOU KNOW, OUR PROGRAM REQUIRES THEM TO SET IT UP IN ADVANCE.

SO WE ARE SCHEDULING THOSE OUT ACCORDINGLY.

UM, MARCH 28TH, WE DID UTILIZE AND MOVE INTO THE FIRE WINDOW.

SO DEVELOPMENT AND, UH, INTAKE FOR FIRE IS IN THAT WINDOW, ON THAT SIDE.

UM, PAUL'S HELPED US, YOU KNOW, UH, UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT THE FIRE.

HE'S DOING SOME TRAINING WITH US.

AND, UM, SO THAT'S WORKING OUT PRETTY GOOD.

WE STARTED THE SCAN PROJECT ON THOSE, UM, FABI FINISHED TODAY, THE LAST OF CURRENT PROJECTS.

SO THOSE HAVE BEEN SCANNED IN ELECTRONICALLY AND WE WILL BE STARTING ON ALL THE OLD STUFF, UM, AND GETTING THOSE, UH, SCANNED AND ARCHIVED.

UM, WE'RE GOING TO GET EXTRA BINS FOR SHRED.

UM, THAT WAY WE CAN GET RID OF THEM AS WE DO THAT.

SO WE ARE MOVING TOWARD PAPERLESS ON THAT SIDE.

SO, UM, UM, KELLY'S UPDATING AND ADDING INTO THE GIS SYSTEM.

THERE'S NEW LAYERS ADDED IN THERE AS OF LAST WEEK.

SO PLEASE GO PLAY WITH IT.

UM, WE ARE LOSING CHRISTIAN TO TRANNY VALLEY AND, UM, SO I HAVE TO HIRE A NEW GIS PERSON.

WE DO HAVE A EXCELLENT CANDIDATE.

WE HAVE GIVEN HIM AN OFFER LETTER HE'S COMING FROM WHERE CALIFORNIA.

SO IF HE TAKES THE JOBS, BUT, UM, UM, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ON WHAT HE CAN BRING TO THE TABLE.

AND SO IS KELLY.

SO IF KELLY'S HAPPY, WE'RE HAPPY.

SO OTHER THAN THAT, WE'VE JUST MOVING ALONG.

DEVELOPMENT IS STILL MOVING ALONG.

SO ANY QUESTIONS, ANY COMMENTS? UH, I, I WOULD KIND OF, IF YOU CAN JUST KIND OF BREAK THE PUBLIC OR, AND THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS KIND OF, AND I KNOW SOME OF THE OTHERS HAVE TALKED TO YOU TOO, ABOUT THE IMPACT STUDIES, THEIR GROWTH HAS TAKEN OFF SO FAST.

AND REALLY, I GUESS WAS THE ONE THAT REALLY POINTED THIS OUT.

AND WE HAD A MEETING WITH FORNEY THAT THEY'RE NOT REALLY DOING THE IMPACT STUDIES WHAT'S HAPPENING OUT IN THE COUNTY AFTER THE DO WHAT THEY DO.

SO I KNOW THERE'S SOME LIMITATIONS TO WHAT WE CAN DO, WHAT WE POSSIBLY CAN DO.

SO WE COULD, YOU KIND OF JUST KIND OF BREATHE, GIVE A BRIEF SYNOPSIS FOR EVERYBODY A YEAR, KIND OF THE STUFF THAT YOU SHARED WITH ME, AND WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD ON, OKAY, WE DID MEET, UM, UH, WE HAD A PHONE CONFERENCE, GARRETT, NINE DEAD ON, UM, THOSE STUDIES EXACTLY.

UM, MOST DEVELOPMENT WHEN THEY COME IN, THEY FOCUS ON THAT ACTUAL PARCEL.

THEY DO A DRAINAGE STUDY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT OFF SHEDDING MORE THAN THIS MUCH OFF OF THAT PARCEL.

TOGETHER SO THAT WE CAN HAVE OUR REP, UH, REPRESENT US, UH, DOWN IN AUSTIN SO THAT WE CAN MAKE IT SORT OF A REQUIREMENT AND NOT JUST A PLEASE HELP US.

UM, WE HAVE NO JURISDICTION INSIDE THE CITIES, THE CITIES IN, IF YOU NOTICED IN 40, THEY'RE DROPPING A LOT OF MILLION DOLLAR SLABS OR A MILLION SQUARE FOOT SLABS, AND AN IMPACT STUDY WOULD REALLY BENEFIT THE COUNTY BECAUSE THAT WATER IS GOING SOMEWHERE AND IT'S PUSHING IT SOMEWHERE.

AND WE'RE NOTICING AREAS IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OR OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS THAT ARE FLOODING THAT NEVER FLOODED BEFORE.

SO WE WOULD BENEFIT GREATLY FROM HAVING A COPY OR REQUIRING AN IMPACT STUDY TWO MILES DOWN THE ROAD, NOT PARCEL TO PARCEL.

AND SO, UM, WE'RE GONNA, WE GOT WENT, DAD, WE'RE WORKING THAT OUT.

WE'RE THINKING ABOUT, UM, TACKLING IT IN FROM THREE WAYS, ONE WITH THE INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT TO SEE IF WE CAN REQUIRE THAT, UM, IMPACT STUDY FROM THE CITIES WHENEVER THEY'RE DOING IN DEVELOPMENT, IF THEY COULD JUST PROVIDE THE COUNTY WITH THAT SO WE CAN REVIEW IT, MAKE COMMENTS NECESSARY.

UM, WE ALSO WANT TO TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER AND MAYBE PUT A PROPOSAL

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UM, AND THEN WE ARE ALSO, UM, TEARING APART OUR FLOODPLAIN ORDER AND MAKING SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS IN THERE TO WHERE WE CAN DO SOME REQUIREMENT A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE THE FLOOD, PLAIN FLOOD WAYS.

WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR TRIBUTARIES, YOUR REVEALING, YOUR RAVINES, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS ARE NOT IN THE FLOOD PLAIN NECESSARILY, BUT THEY LEAD TO THE FLOOD PLAIN AND PEOPLE ARE NOT GUARDING THAT AS WELL.

SO WE ARE WORKING ON TRYING TO, TO GET THAT ALL TOGETHER.

WE STARTED THAT PROCESS A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, AND WE'RE GOING TO BRING AN UPDATE TO THE COURT AND I GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT.

CAUSE IT'S A BIG PICTURE DEAL.

IT IS.

IF YOU, IF YOU'RE JUST LOOKING AT YOUR PARCEL, YOU HAVE NO UNDERSTANDING HOW YOU'RE AFFECTING DOWN.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IMPACT.

ARE YOU, IS IT PROPER TO SAY THAT'S, UH, THAT'S STORMWATER IMPACT OR A DRAINAGE IMPACT? WHAT'S THE RIGHT WORD.

THERE'S A DIFFERENCE.

GARY CAN ELABORATE ON THAT ONE.

AND STORMWATER IS ANOTHER ONE THAT WE WANT TO TALK TO STEVE ABOUT AND KIND OF WORK THAT OUT.

SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH IT'S WHATEVER SHED FROM THE FACILITY IN QUESTION, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, THE ONE THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IN FORNEY IS JUST NORTH OF THE, WHAT WAS THE SUBDIVISION NAME? DO YOU REMEMBER? HIGHLAND PRAIRIE AND THANKS.

AND HIGHLAND PERRY.

SO SOUTH OF THE GATEWAY, THAT AREA HAS ALWAYS HAD, WELL, YEAH, I MEAN, WE'VE DISCUSSED IT FOR YEARS.

I, YOU KNOW, I HAD A STUDY AND I BROUGHT IT TO YOU AND SAID, COULD YOU COPY THIS ONE ON THAT AREA? AND THAT'S WHY I PASSED ALONG MIKE THE OTHER DAY.

AND SO HE'S GOING TO BE GETTING THINKING ABOUT THAT, BUT, AND THEN I BROUGHT ONE TO YOU ABOUT GOING ACROSS VALLEY VIEW AND THE SEVEN 40, EVEN THAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT THAT YOU WERE AND GETTING WITH THEM ON THAT PARTICULAR THING.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS, BUT WHEN TALKED TO FREESE AND NICHOLS AND WE HIRED THEM ON THIS STATEWIDE, I MEAN, IT'S BASICALLY, UH, ISN'T THAT SUPPOSED TO COME BACK AND DO SOME OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT HERE, THAT WE'RE GONNA LOCATE ALL OF THIS, THE FLOODING TO THEM, BECAUSE THEY'LL HAVE TO HAVE THE STUDY ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE MANAGEMENT TO GET THE LEGISLATURE, TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IMPACT DOWN THE STREAM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO JUST DO IT.

WE'RE NOT WORKING RIGHT AWAY.

THOSE ARE GOING TO HIT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT HOTSPOTS IN THE COUNTY.

IT'S NOT GOING TO DO LIKE A WHOLE WATERSHED FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE OUTPUTTING AT THE SOUTH END OF OUR, OF OUR AREA.

THAT'S GOING TO HIT THE DIFFERENT, UH, THE REASON I HAD Y'ALL FILL OUT THE TOP FIVE, TOP SIX SPOTS THAT WERE MOST FLOODED IN YOUR AREAS BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THOSE AREAS AND THEN DO KIND OF A MINI DRAINAGE PLAN PUT TOGETHER FOR WHAT WE CAN DO TO MITIGATE ANY ISSUES WITH THAT.

THE OTHER OUTCOME OF THE STUDY IS ALSO GOING TO BE, UH, LEGISLATION REGULATIONS FOR FUTURE CAUSES AND HOPEFULLY PREVENTION OF ANY KIND OF ISSUE THAT COMES UP.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE IMPACT STUDY IS THAT WE WANTED TO SEE A LOT OF THE TIMES WHEN THEY DO THESE DRAINAGE STUDIES, THEY'LL LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENS, MAYBE A COUPLE HUNDRED FEET OUTSIDE OF THEIR, UH, SUBDIVISIONS OR PROPERTIES.

UM, BUT IT USUALLY JUST STOPS THERE.

AND WHAT WE WANTED TO SEE WAS, WELL, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GO, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF THOUSAND FEET, MAYBE EVEN LONGER THAN THAT DOWN THE ROAD AND THE ISSUE THAT WE'RE ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME UP WITH, IS IT REASONABLE SET OF BOUNDS FOR HOW FAR DOWN WE CAN W WE CAN ASK WITHOUT IT BEING JUST THIS ASTRONOMICAL PRICE FOR A, UH, A STUDY TO BE DONE.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE, THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE TO KIND OF ANSWER, UM, AFTER A LITTLE FURTHER DISCUSSION.

WELL, AND THESE KINDS OF PROJECTS, THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD HAS ITS OWN TIMEFRAME.

YOU KNOW, THESE GRANTS HAVE THEIR OWN TIMEFRAME AND IN OUR LOCAL AGREEMENT, WHICH IS WE'RE UP FOR RENEWALS NOW, WHICH WE HAVE TO ALTER.

SO ANYWAY, CAUSE SOME HAVE TAKEN ON RESPONSIBILITIES.

WE CAN START WORKING ON SOMETHING.

NOW THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO YEARS DOWN THE ROAD FOR LEGISLATION, YOU'RE TALKING HOW MANY MONTHS OR YEARS DOWN THE ROAD FOR THE WATER BOARD, WE CAN DO SOMETHING NOW WITHIN OUR COUNTY WITH THOSE INNER LOCALS.

IF WE CAN START THAT PROCESS, WE CAN START LOOKING AT THAT NOW.

LOOKED AT ALL THEIR REQUIREMENTS.

I THOUGHT FOR THE ORIGINAL, FOR THE ORIGINAL DETENTION AND RETENTION PONDS AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF THOSE WAS FOR THE FACT TO STOP THE WATER FLOW FROM SHED OUR DRAINAGE OR FLOODING CONTROL OFF OF THE PROPERTY AT ANY GREATER RATE THAN IT ALREADY WAS WHEN IT WAS JACKSON.

BUT DO ALL OF OUR CITIES REQUIRE DETENTION.

THEY SHOULD.

I HAVEN'T

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FLOW AS, INSTEAD OF ACTUALLY GETTING OUT THERE AND LOOKING AT IT SO WELL.

THOSE TWO HAVE RIGS.

SO I MEAN, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE, AND I'M, AND I'M THINKING WE DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE THEM DO THE SAME THING.

WELL, WE CAN, IF THEY'RE CONTROLLING THE ETJ AND WE PUT IT ON OUR INTER-LOCAL AGREEMENT THEN, AND THEY AGREE TO THAT, THEN IT'S AT LEAST A STEP CLOSER TO ONE.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

I'M SAYING THE ETJ COMES BACK TO THE COUNTY.

WE TAKE CARE OF IT.

WELL, WE WILL DO THE, YOU KNOW, SO YEAH, THE PROBLEM IS THAT IT'S A, IT'S NOT IT'S FROM THE CITY STANDPOINT.

AND I KNOW THIS FROM HAVING HAD TO BUILD A TENSION IN THE FACILITY THAT WE BUILT PRIVATELY.

UH IT'S IT TAKES A LOT OF LAND AND IT'S EXPENSIVE.

AND, AND IF, IF THE, THE FACILITY THAT'S GOING IN, ISN'T GOING TO IMPACT PEOPLE THAT PEOPLE ARE PROPERTIES INSIDE THE CITY.

THEY'RE NOT REALLY VERY MOTIVATED TO TELL THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT, OH, BY THE WAY, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DEDICATE TWO ACRES OF YOUR PROPERTY.

AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND THIS MONEY ON ENGINEERING AND DESIGN AND EVERYTHING.

SO, UM, I GUESS, I GUESS THEY, UH, YOU KNOW, GIVE THEM, YOU KNOW, LEEWAY OR SOMETHING, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT LIKE WHEN WALMART CAME IN FORNEY, THEY REALLY BEAT HIM UP, MADE HIM BE ABLE TO MAKE ONE, BUT, BUT THAT'S EFFECTED DRAINAGE IN THE CITY THAT IF IT WAS ON THE BED, THE SAME VEIN KROGER, BUT WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT.

THERE WAS GATEWAY.

AND I GUESS THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE GOING JUST OVER THE HILL AND THEY'RE NOT IN THE CITY NO MORE.

AND THEY JUST, THEY'RE NOT INTERESTED, I GUESS.

I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, IT LOOKS LIKE TO ME THAT WE SHOULDN'T HAVE THE POWER TO SAY, WAIT A MINUTE, YOU KNOW? YEAH.

WELL, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO, WHAT IS THIS MILLION SQUARE FOOT SLAB, A CONCRETE YOU GOING TO DO TO THIS AREA OVER HERE, HOW'S DOWN THE THREE.

NOW YOU KIND OF GIVE THEM A REASON THAT'S A CRITICAL PROBLEM.

YOU KNOW, WE JUST WERE MEETING ABOUT THAT LAST WEEK, EVEN WITH THE LIMITATIONS THAT WE HAVE FOR WHAT I CONSIDER AN OUTDATED FLOODPLAIN, UH, DESIGNATION, UH, DOESN'T DOESN'T REALLY PROVIDE US MUCH AUTHORITY OR, OR EVEN KNOW AN ACTION PLAN TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS ALL THESE MILLIONS OF GALLONS OF WATER THAT TRUTHFULLY ARE COMING FROM THE NORTH PART OF THIS COUNTY, ALL INTO PRECINCT FOUR.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME IT RAINS, WE HAVE A MYRIAD OF COMPLAINTS.

YOU KNOW, WE GOT WATER IN THESE DITCHES AND WATERS IN MY, IN MY FRONT YARD THAT WE'VE NEVER HAD THAT BEFORE.

AND IT'S BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE AN OVERARCHING, UH, UH, ANY SORT OF A PLAN.

AND, AND I AGREE WITH YOU, MONIQUE, WE NEED TO AT LEAST GET ENGAGED NOW, UH, COOPERATIVELY WITH OUR CITIES.

AND, UH, AGAIN, WE REALLY NEED THIS INTEGRATED APPROACH, THIS, UH, THIS FLOOD MITIGATION STUDY.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT BASELINE COMPLETED, YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN APPLYING FOR REAL MEN OF GRACE MITIGATION GRANTS.

YOU GOT TO HAVE THE STUDY FIRST BEFORE YOU CAN ACTUALLY GET ANYBODY TO PAY ANY ATTENTION.

SO W WE, WE REALLY DO NEED TO DEVELOP IN MY OPINION, AN OVERARCHING PLAN FOR THIS, UH, THIS EVER INCREASING PROBLEM, BECAUSE EVERY GALLON OF WATER THAT GETS SHED OUT OF FORNEY AND TERRELL, AND, AND NOW EVEN IN THE CITY OF KAUFMAN WINDS UP RUNNING DOWNHILL TO PRECINCT FOUR, AND IT IS, UH, AND WE JUST REALLY HAVE NO, UH, ABILITY TO ADDRESS IT, PARTICULARLY IN OUR UNINCORPORATED AREAS, BECAUSE MOST OF THOSE, UM, NATURAL WATERCOURSES ARE EITHER NOT IN THE FLOOD PLAIN, OR EVEN IF THEY ARE THEIR OWN PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT THE COUNTY HAS NO ACCESS TO.

WELL, THE KEY TO ALL THAT IS I THINK GARRETT WILL AGREE.

IT'S IT'S THE WATER'S COMING DOWN AND IT'S GOING TO GO INTO THE CHANNEL.

THE QUESTION IS, CAN YOU, CAN YOU REQUIRE, YOU HAVE THE WILL TO REQUIRE THE DEVELOPER TO SET ASIDE THE PROPERTY FOR DETENTION.

SO IT DOESN'T GO, IT DOESN'T OVERWHELM THE DOWN THE DOWNSTREAM CHANNELS.

AND, UM, I THINK THE LEGISLATIVE FIXES ONLY WAY THAT'S GOING TO GET DONE, BECAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF CITIES AREN'T GOING TO DO IT BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT GOING TO AFFECT THEIR CITY, IF THAT WATER IS GOING TO LEAVE THEIR CITY, FLOOD PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE CITY, THAT'S NOT THEIR PROBLEM.

IT'S.

AND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS EXACTLY TRUE, BUT, BUT A LOT OF IT IS THEY'RE LOOKING AT MAPS THAT ARE SAYING ONE THING, BUT THE REALITY IS THOSE MAPS AND THE DEVELOPS WERE DONE 30 YEARS AGO.

SO THOSE DRAINS ARE NOT DITCHES ANYMORE.

THEY'RE STILTED IN THE TRUNK AND THEY'RE JUST CONTOURS, BUT THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE MAPS, THINKING THAT THEY'RE TAKING THE SAME

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AND THE COUNTY DID, UM, WE DID PREPARE, UM, WITH THE HELP OF THE EIGHTIES A'S OFFICE LA UH, TWO YEARS AGO, WE PREPARED SOMETHING TO ASKING FOR SOME KIND OF ZONING AROUND A FLOOD BLAME WITHIN A CERTAIN DISTANCE, SO THAT WE AT LEAST, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT WHAT'S ON THE GROUND, ISN'T THE ACTUAL FLOOD ONE.

SO IF WE ADD A LITTLE ZONING, WE GET MORE STUDY ON THOSE ZONE A'S AND WE DID, WE SENT THAT DOWN TO AUSTIN.

WE THEN GOT BACK SOMETHING THAT WE NEEDED TO DO LETTERS OF SUPPORT.

WE DID THAT IN SOMEWHERE AFTER THE LETTERS OF SUPPORT, IT KIND OF DROPPED, BUT I DID SEE REPRESENTATIVE BELLS, UM, A GENTLEMAN AT THE ECONOMIC SUMMIT AND TOLD HIM I WOULD BE BACK.

SO, UM, KIND OF GAVE HIM A WARNING.

SO WE DO HAVE THAT, AND WE WILL BE BRINGING THAT AGAIN, AT LEAST TO WHERE WE CAN AT LEAST CONTROL SOME OF IT AROUND THE FLOOD, PLAIN.

IT'S LITTLE STEPS, BABY STEPS.

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE FLOOD PLAIN ON IN THIS, IN THIS COUNTY IS MORE THAN LAND YEAH.

MAPS THAT SHOW THAT OR WHATEVER BABY STEPS WE CAN TAKE TO PREVENT ANY MORE DAMAGE OR ANY MORE FLOODING, ANY COORDINATION WE CAN GET WITH CITIES, WE'RE WILLING TO, WE'RE WILLING TO TRY ANYTHING.

AND WE DO, WE DO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING AN EYE ON THAT OVER THAT OVERARCHING PICTURE, BECAUSE EVEN, UH, EVEN, UH, UH, AN IMPACT STUDY WITH A CITY THAT MIGHT ADDRESS, UH, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT MILE OR TWO DOWNSTREAM, WE'RE GETTING WATER.

THAT'S 30 AND 40 MILES AWAY FROM WHERE IT'S ORIGINATING.

SO, I MEAN, IT'S A BIG PICTURE PROBLEM.

UH, YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY ONE, THE PEOPLE PAST YOU OR GET ME GOES INTO THE COMMUNITY OR THE LAKE.

BUT I MEAN, WELL, AND OF COURSE, WHEN YOU GET ONTO THE CREEKS AND STUFF, GUESS WHAT? THEY DON'T CALL IT A FLOOD PLAIN, BECAUSE IT'S A CREEK.

AND THEY SAID, WELL, IT'S THIS NATURALLY LEAVES THE BANK.

SO IT'S NOT A FLOOD, PLAIN, NOTHING.

WHAT I SAY NOW THAT'S CONFUSING ME BECAUSE THE AREA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT THERE THERE'S A CREEK, BUT SHE CREEKS.

SO, BUT SHE, CREEK'S NOT A FLOOD PLAIN.

SO THAT'S WHY THEY DON'T THINK THE WATER'S BAD COMING FROM UP THERE.

AND THEY PUSHING THE WATER, THEY'RE PUSHING IT INTO THE GREEK AND THE GREEK IS EXPANDS.

IT COMES OVER THE BANKS.

AND THEY SAID, WELL, EVERYBODY NATURALLY KNOWS GREEK AND COME OUT OF ITS BANKS.

HAVE YOU BUILT THERE? YOU RIGHT HERE, THIS IS TOUGH.

RIGHT? AND KELLY GETS LETTERS OF MAP REVISION, AND SHE GETS THOSE THINGS.

AND WHEN SHE GETS THOSE, SHE UPDATES THE GIS PORTAL.

SO WE ARE GETTING SOME STUDIES AND AS THOSE STUDIES COME IN, WE'RE UPDATING THE GIS.

SO THE ACTUAL FLOOD PLAIN LAYER THAT YOU TURN ON ARE ACTUALLY AS ACCURATE AS WE CAN GET THEM FROM THE DATA WE'VE BEEN GETTING THROUGH.

OH, I KNOW THEY'RE COOL.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A NEAT, IT'S A NEAT ITEM.

YOU KNOW, THEY COMPLAIN AND I SHOWED HIM THIS AND HE SAID, OH, WOW.

I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.

I SAID, HELLO, YOU'RE BILLING UNDERWATER.

YOU KNOW, SO, I MEAN, WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE GIS MAPS THAT YOU GUYS SEND OUT TO THE PRECINCTS MONIQUE, BECAUSE THEY'RE REALLY HELPFUL WHEN WE'RE SITTING DOWN AND TALKING TO LOCAL DEVELOPERS TO BE ABLE TO, TO, UH, POLITICAL HIGHLIGHT HOW THEIR PROJECT IS GOING TO IMPACT THAT.

AND EVERYBODY JUST MATES REALLY REMEMBER YOUR OFFICE IS STILL NEW.

WE'VE DONE A LOT IN THE PAST SIX YEARS.

I MEAN, THIS IS, YEAH.

I MEAN, BUT I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I MEAN IT, WHEN WE STARTED MAKE THE OFFICE SIX YEARS AGO.

AND THEN WE FINALLY DID IT ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO, BUT IT, IT, IT REALLY, I MEAN, I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH NEVERENDING STORY, SO ANYWAY, WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS.

SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR THAT REPORT, MONIQUE AND GARRETT.

THANKS FOR YOUR SUPPORT ON THAT.

UH, IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES? QUARTERLY REPORT IS PRESENTED.

WE HAVE THAT MOTION COMMISSIONED CAGES OR A SECOND.

SO SECOND KRISHA BARBARA DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

UP IS AN L ANDY DISCUSSING CONSIDER APPROVAL TO LEASE FOUR NEW DUMP TRUCKS FOR PRECINCT THREE.

OPPOSED THAT MOTION CARRIES NEXT

[14. Zennell Andy; Discuss and consider approval to lease 4 New Dump Trucks for Precinct #3. This is a 36-month equipment lease from Warren Truck and Trailer, LLC. totaling $94,240; utilizing Buyboard Contract #601-19. ]

THIS IS A 36 MONTH EQUIPMENT LEASE FROM WARREN TRUCK AND TRAILER.

TOTALLY 94,000 TO 40 UTILIZING BUYBOARD 6 0 1 1 9.

ARCHITECTS RECEIVE UPDATE AND CONSIDER RECOMMENDATIONS FOR PHASE THREE KAUFMAN COUNTY FACILITIES, MASTER PLAN.

I'M JUST COMING TO ASK FOR PERMISSION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE LEASES.

AND THESE WILL BE REPLACING THE CURRENT DUMP TRUCKS THAT THEY HAVE QUESTIONS.

THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT LISA'S PRESENTED? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION WHERE THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER BARBERS OR SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

[15. HOK Architects; Receive update and consider recommendations for Phase III - Kaufman County Facilities Master Plan. ]

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HERE THEY COME.

MORNIN.

I JUST WENT TO DO A SHORT INTRO FOR EVERYONE TO REMIND YOU THAT WE'RE KIND OF WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES TO GET YOUR FINAL CONSTRUCTION COSTS AND YOUR BUDGETS PUT TOGETHER.

SO THIS IS CONSIDERED PHASE THREE AND THE FACILITIES MASTER PLAN.

AND I HAVE TO SAY, I REALLY, REALLY HOPE YOUR WELD BY WHAT THEY'RE PRESENTING TO YOU TODAY, BECAUSE THIS IS THE WRAP-UP OF THE LAST OF THE DEPARTMENTS.

SO WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK AT IS THE COURTHOUSE AND ANNEX AND ALL OF THE AFFECTED DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THERE.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE NARROWING IT DOWN AND AFTER A FEW DECISIONS ARE MADE TODAY, THEN WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH GETTING THOSE BUDGETS TOGETHER.

AND WE'RE ABOUT TWO OR THREE WEEKS AWAY FROM HAVING ALL OF THIS BACK TO YOU.

SO GOOD MORNING.

IT'S BEEN AWHILE.

WE'VE BEEN HARD AT WORK.

AND WE TALK ABOUT A RESURFACING OF THE PARKING LOT.

SO FIRST THINGS FIRST, WE REALLY JUST WANT TO SORT OF, UM, REMIND YOU OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE AND GAVE YOU AN UPDATE ON OUR PLANNING EFFORTS FOR THE ANNEX AND FOR THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE, WITH THE MIGRATION STRATEGY THAT WE HAD, WHERE WE WERE MOVING EVERYBODY AROUND AND GETTING PEOPLE INTO NEW PLACES.

SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO RUN THROUGH THAT.

AND THEN THE SECOND THING WE'RE GONNA DO IS SHOW YOU WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON SINCE WE'VE SINCE TALKED WITH YOU.

AND WE'VE GOTTEN SOME FEEDBACK FROM SOME OF THE, THE, UH, THE ORIGINAL, UH, PRESENTATION THAT WE MADE.

WE'VE HEARD FROM, UH, DEPARTMENTS.

WE'VE, RE-INTERVIEWED SOME FOLKS, UM, WE'VE HEARD FROM COMMISSIONERS THEMSELVES.

SO WE'VE TAKEN EVERYTHING INTO ACCOUNT.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE JUST WORKING ON IT ON THE BACK END, BUT I THINK WE'VE GOT A GREAT SOLUTION.

SO WE'RE VERY, VERY EXCITED TODAY.

SO OPTION ONE, JUST TO REMIND YOU OVERALL STRATEGY IS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH BOTH THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE AND THE ANNEX.

UM, THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE NEEDS A RENOVATION, UM, ON THE INTERIOR, IT'S GOING TO NEED A RENOVATION TWO TIMES ON ONE PART, JUST BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE AN INTERIM PLAN, UH, FOR MAKING SURE THAT THE ANNEX IS ALSO RENOVATED.

SO THIS IS SORT OF A JOINT EFFORT BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS WE WOULD BE, UH, ADDING, UH, AN ADDITION TO THE EXTERIOR TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT.

UM, WE WOULD HAVE, UH, AN ADDITION TO SUPPORT THE PRIMARY BUILDING ENTRANCE OVER ON THE ANNEX.

UM, WE DO LANDSCAPING ON THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE, AND THEN WE WOULD BE, UH, WORKING ON THE SURFACE, THE PARKING, UH, SURFACE OUT HERE AT THE ANNEX.

SO THERE'S TWO DISTINCT PROJECTS GOING ON.

THEY WOULD SORT OF BE HAND IN HAND WITH ONE ANOTHER.

SO YOU CAN SEE SORT OF THE COMPARE AND CONTRAST BETWEEN THE BEFORE AND AFTER.

SO THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE, AGAIN, YOU'VE SEEN THESE PLANS, UH, THIS WOULD BE THE PHASE ONE.

THIS IS WHERE WE STACK EVERYBODY INTO THE COURTHOUSE.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT PLANNED IN THE COURTROOM THAT WE'VE GOT OVER THERE NOW, WHICH IS A DISTRICT COURT.

UM, AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE TAX AREA, WHICH WOULD BE AN INTERIM TAX PLACE, UM, A LANDING PLACE SO THAT WE CAN WORK ON THE ANNEX.

WE'VE GOT ELECTIONS, HR, UH, ALL OF THE FUNCTIONS.

AND WE DO HAVE AN ADDITION TO THE BUILDING, WHICH WOULD BE JUST A SORT OF CANOPY THAT WOULD EXTEND OUT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ELECTIONS WITH THE COVERING THAT THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO WHEEL EQUIPMENT IN AND OUT OF THE BUILDING.

IN CASE OF INCLEMENT WEATHER, UH, PHASE ONE LEVEL TWO, AGAIN, YOU'VE SEEN THIS, THIS IS WHERE WE ADD THE SORT OF BACK OF HOUSE COUNTY FUNCTIONS.

UM, AND SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE TREASURER.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PURCHASING FACILITIES, WE'D GET THE AUDITOR IN.

UM, WE'D GET A REALLY NICE BREAK ROOM.

UM, WE GET THE IT, THE PLACE THAT THEY NEED AND YOU GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SOME CONFERENCE ROOMS, UH, WHICH THERE ARE NOT A LOT OF IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

SO WE'D GET A NICE BIG MULTIPURPOSE ROOM.

UM, AND WE'D HAVE A COUPLE OF LANDING PLACES FOR COMMISSIONERS.

UH, IF THEY SO CHOSE TO USE THEM, THE BASEMENT LEVEL ONE WOULD BE ALL ELECTIONS AND THIS WOULD BE WHERE THEY WOULD BE HOUSED.

UM, SO THIS WOULD GIVE THEM SOME SPACE TO BE ABLE TO BRING SOME OF THOSE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT IN THAT THEY HAVE AT ALL OF THE VARIOUS STORAGE FACILITIES THAT ARE AROUND THE COUNTY, UM, AND SORT OF CONSOLIDATE.

NOW THIS WOULD BE PHASE TWO.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS ONCE THE ANNEX IS COMPLETED, WE'D BE ABLE TO JUST ADD IN ELECTIONS.

AND SO THAT'S THE ONLY DIFFERENCE THAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE AND THAT'S ON LEVEL ONE.

NOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE ANNEX, UM, AGAIN, THIS IS A REITERATION OF THINGS THAT YOU'VE SEEN, BUT WE TALK ABOUT THE BUILDING

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THAT'S OUT THERE AND EVERYONE KNOWS IT NEEDS SOME WORK.

SO WE KNOW THAT WE CAN PROVIDE SOME OVERFLOW, UM, PARKING, WE CAN GET EVERYTHING SURFACED SO THAT EVERYTHING JOINS UP.

IT WOULD BE GREAT.

THIS WAS THE CONCEPT THAT WE SHOWED YOU INITIALLY WITH THE REESE SKINNING IS WHAT WE CALL IT, WHERE WE ACTUALLY WORK ON THE BUILDING FACADE AND WHERE WE ACTUALLY DO SOME OUT OUTWARD APPEARANCE, UH, MODIFICATIONS TO BE ABLE TO MODERNIZE THE BUILDING AND BRING IT UP.

UM, AND THEN THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WOULD BE DONE TO THE BACK OF THE BUILDING TO HELP TIE IN, UH, THE FACADE WITH THE NEW ENTRANCE RE-IMAGINING, THAT WOULD BE ON THE BACK OF THE BUILDING.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS LEVEL ONE, WE GET, UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES IN, WE GET THE TAX OFFICE, WE GET THIS NICE BIG LOBBY QUEUING AREA FOR ALL OF THE TAX.

UM, WE GET INDIGENT HEALTH ON THE FIRST FLOOR.

THAT'S A COMMENT THAT WE HAD PICKED UP FROM, UH, ONE OF OUR COMMISSIONERS HERE.

UM, AND THEN WE GET SOME TEMPORARY SPACE FOR VETERAN SERVICES.

AND THEN ON LEVEL TWO, WE DO VERY, VERY LITTLE RENOVATION HERE, BUT WE DO GET THE FIRE MARSHAL AND THE REST OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, WHICH WOULD ALSO BE THE, THE ENGINEER.

AND WE GET A BETTER BREAK ROOM.

SO WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE FOR OPTION ONE, AND I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT TO REALLY THINK ABOUT IS THERE'S A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH THAT'S REQUIRED TO DO OPTION ONE, AND THERE'S SOME COSTS THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH OPTION ONE, UM, THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, BUT IT'S NICE TO BE REMINDED.

SO, UM, WE'VE GOT TO MOVE PEOPLE BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE ANNEX AND THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE.

WE HAVE TO FIND SOME TEMPORARY PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO LAND, TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THIS.

UM, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, ONCE EVERYTHING'S DONE, UM, YOU WOULD BE MAINTAINING PROPERTY COSTS AT TWO UNIQUE LOCATIONS, WHICH YOU'RE DOING NOW, RIGHT? SO THERE IS A BETTER OPTION.

WE THINK THERE IS OPTION TWO, AND THIS IS FOCUSED PURELY AROUND THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE.

AND WE BELIEVE AFTER DOING SOME STUDY THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY GET EVERYBODY INTO THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE AND REALLY MAKE IT VIBRANT AND SING, AND WE CAN REMODEL THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE AND REALLY GET IT MOVING.

AND IT WOULD GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO DIVEST THE ANNEX BUILDING.

SO THE OPPORTUNITY HERE WOULD BE TO MAINTAIN THE PARKING LOT, BECAUSE WE WOULD NEED THAT TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE.

SO WE WOULD STILL DO THE RESURFACING.

WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, TAKE CARE OF ALL OF THE, THE LARGER PART OF THE PARKING LOT.

UH, BUT THE BUILDING, THE ANNEX BUILDING ITSELF WE COULD GET RID OF, WHICH WOULD BE REALLY NICE SORT OF MOMENT OF REVENUE FOR THE COUNTY.

AND IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE FOR THE TOWN OF KAUFMAN TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SOME, UH, UH, DOWNTOWN SPACE THAT COULD GO FOR RE REVITALIZATION OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

SO THE COURTHOUSE, WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE IS THIS.

WE ACTUALLY WOULD HAVE TO RENOVATE THE WHOLE BOTTOM FLOOR AND WE COULD PUT THE TAX OFFICE DIRECTLY AS YOU WALK INTO THE DOORS OF THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE.

SO THIS GETS US, THE DEPARTMENT OF DEVELOPMENT, THE COUNTY ENGINEER, AND THE FIRE MARSHALL ALSO IN THE BUILDING WITH THE COMMUNICATING STAIRS, IT GETS US THE TAX OFFICE WITH PLENTY OF ROOM FOR PUBLIC QUEUING.

AND WE COULD REALLY GET A NICE FLOW IN AND OUT OF THE TAX OFFICE AREA, JUST BY USE OF THE DOORS THAT EXIST THERE IN THE BUILDING.

CURRENTLY, WE'D GET THE HR IN AND WE'D GET THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT IN THE HR WOULD STILL GET A NICE CONFERENCE ROOM AND WE'D GET NICE LITTLE COFFEE AREA DOWN THERE.

BUT THE IDEA IS THAT YOU FIT LEVEL TWO.

EVERYBODY WONDERED WHERE THE COUNTY JUDGE WENT WELL, HE WENT UPSTAIRS.

SO, SO THE COUNTY JUDGE ACTUALLY WOULD GO IN AND STILL HAVE A NICE, UH, EXPANSIVE WINDOWS AND BE LOOKING OUT INTO THE COURTYARD.

UH, AND WE'D ACTUALLY HAVE A SUITE WITH A HALLWAY THAT YOU COULD TAKE DOWN TO GET INTO THE SUITE.

SO YOU WOULD BE RECEIVED IN THE SUITE AND THEN THE JUDGE'S OFFICE WOULD BE STRAIGHT UP THE STAIRS.

WE'D STILL MAINTAIN THOSE COMMISSIONER'S OFFICES.

UM, SO WE'D STILL HAVE THE CONFERENCE ROOM IF YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WANTED TO USE THE CONFERENCE ROOM.

UM, WE'D STILL MAINTAIN THAT REALLY NICE LARGE BREAK ROOM PURCHASING AND FACILITIES IS THERE, IT IS THERE.

SO THIS IS THE SAME, EXCEPT FOR THAT MOMENT WHERE WE ACTUALLY PUT THE COUNTY JUDGE UPSTAIRS.

THIS IS

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WHERE IT CHANGES AGAIN, THE BASEMENT.

SO THIS IS WHERE WE BELIEVE THAT IF WE CAN GET THE FIRE MARSHALL DEPARTMENT OF DEVELOPMENT AND THE COUNTY ENGINEER INTO THAT ONE AREA IN THE PLAN WITH THAT INTERCONNECTED STAIR, THEY WOULD HAVE SPACE TO BE ABLE TO GROW AS DEPARTMENTS.

THEY WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE WINDOWS THAT ARE THERE ALREADY IN THE BUILDING, UH, THAT THE PUBLIC WALKS UP, WHERE THEY CAN RECEIVE PEOPLE AND STILL MAINTAIN, UH, THAT COMMUNICATION WITH PEOPLE AND STILL HAVE SOME, UH, PRESENCE BEHIND THE GLASS, WHICH I THINK IS SORT OF DESIRABLE TO SOME DEGREE.

UM, AND THEN IT GIVES THE FIRE MARSHALL AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A SUITE SO THAT HE SECURE, UH, SO THAT HE CAN MAINTAIN THE, UH, ABILITY TO BE A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY AND HAVE SOME, SOME AREAS WHERE HE NEEDS TO HAVE SOME SECURE, UH, STORAGE.

IT ALSO GIVES US A PLACE WHERE WE CAN HAVE SOME DOCUMENTS STORAGE.

SO THIS COULD FREE UP SOME LITTLE AREAS WHERE WE'VE HAD THINGS KIND OF HIDDEN AWAY IN THE COUNTY, UM, WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN CLEAN UP SOME SPACE AND KIND OF MOVE THINGS AROUND.

IT ALSO WOULD SUPPORT THE FUNCTIONS THAT WOULD BE UPSTAIRS.

SO IT'S REALLY A RE-IMAGINING OF THE COURTHOUSE, BUT THIS GETS EVERYBODY OUT OF THE ANNEX, BUT YOU ASK, I DON'T SEE EVERYBODY THAT WAS IN THE ANNEX BUILDING, WHEREAS EVERYBODY.

SO WE THINK THAT WITH THE POUR FARM AND LIBRARY, A MASTER PLAN THAT WE'VE RUN THAT THE VETERAN SERVICES OFFICE, WE COULD JUST GO AHEAD AND PUT IN THE VETERAN SERVICES OFFICE THAT WE'VE PLANNED TO GO OUT WHERE THE VETERANS MEMORIAL IS.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE AN INTERVIEW WITH HIM, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE NEEDS AND DONE THE ASSESSMENT, AND HE'S QUITE HAPPY WITH THIS ARRANGEMENT.

AND SO THIS WOULD ACTUALLY PROVIDE A LITTLE MORE, UH, TIME FOR US TO GET VETERAN SERVICES OUT INTO THE AREA THAT SUPPORTS HIS MEMORIAL.

THIS ALSO GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO THROUGH WITH THE LIBRARY EXPANSION AND TO MAKE IT A BIT MORE ROBUST.

AND SO WE BELIEVE THAT THE INDIGENT HEALTH COULD HAVE THEIR OWN ENTRANCE, AND WE COULD HAVE A NICE ADDITION BACK THERE SO THAT WE COULD NOT ONLY SUPPORT OUR LIBRARY WITH OUR ELDERLY COMMUNITY.

AND THEY MIGHT ACTUALLY ENJOY GOING OUT TO THIS FARM SITE ITSELF.

THEY COULD VISIT THE MASTER GARDENERS, ANY OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

THE OVERALL HEALTH AND WELL-BEING IS SUPPORTED OUT IN THIS ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR ELDERS.

UM, WE ALSO CAN HAVE THE HISTORIC COMMISSION OUT HERE.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE LIBRARY EXPANSION WAS BEING ABLE TO HAVE, UM, MORE HISTORY, MORE FAMILY HISTORY, A GENEALOGY AREA IN THAT LIBRARY SETTING.

AND AS WE JUST HEARD FROM OUR LIBRARIAN, THEY'VE GOT SO MANY PEOPLE COMING IN FROM ALL THESE PLACES.

THE LIBRARY IS REALLY BEGINNING TO SING AND HOME AGAIN.

AND SO THIS, UH, EXPANSION WOULD REALLY, UH, SPEAK TO THE NEEDS OF THE COUNTY AND THE NEEDS OF THE CONSTITUENTS COMING INTO THE LIBRARY AREA.

IT WOULD ALSO GIVE MORE PARKING.

SO WE'VE CUT THAT QUEUING SPACE FOR PEOPLE WHO DO THE INTERNET QUEUING.

AND THEN YOU ASK, WELL, WHERE DID THE ELECTION'S OFFICE GO IF THEY'RE NOT TAKING UP THE WHOLE, UM, BOTTOM FLOOR OF THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE? WELL, SO WE'VE GOT THE COUNTY ELECTIONS OFFICE.

IF WE CAN, UH, CO LOCATE THEM WITH THE EXISTING EOC BUILDING, WE HAVE 6,500 SQUARE FEET OF A BUILDING THAT WE COULD DO OUT THERE THAT WOULD HOUSE OUR ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT HERE IN THE COUNTY.

IT WOULD GET THEM IN ONE PLACE.

EVERYTHING WOULD BE ON ONE SINGULAR FLOOR.

THEY COULD WHEEL THEIR EQUIPMENT AROUND AND THEY WOULD BE A CENTRALIZED PLACE, UH, THAT COULD GROW.

AND THE NEEDS OF THE ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT, I CAN'T STRESS ENOUGH ARE THEY'RE KIND OF MAXED RIGHT NOW AND WITH ALL OF THE REGULATION COMING DOWN, YOU KNOW, WHO KNOWS, BUT IT GETS HARDER AND HARDER FOR HIM TO, UH, MAKE SURE THAT THEY'VE GOT THE EQUIPMENT THEY'VE GOT THE TIME TO TEST.

YOU KNOW, SO THERE'S A LOT OF BACK BEHIND THE SCENES, UH, THINGS THAT GO ON WITH THE ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT AND THEY REALLY ACTUALLY NEED THEIR OWN BUILDING.

SO THIS WOULD BE IDEAL FOR THEM.

SO WITH THOSE THINGS, YOU ACTUALLY CAN GET EVERYBODY IN TO THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE.

IF WE CAN GET THOSE COUPLE OF, UM, UH, ALTERNATE PLACES GOING LIKE THE ELECTIONS, AND WE CAN GET INDIGENT HEALTH AND VETERANS SERVICES INTO THEIR OWN SPOTS.

SO THAT GIVES YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET RID OF THE ANNEX.

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NOW, THIS IS THE FUN PART, AND I'VE DONE THE BORING PART.

I'M GOING TO GIVE THIS TO CARLOS, AND HE'S GOING TO TALK YOU THROUGH THE BEST PART, WHICH IS GOING TO BE THE MOST INTERESTING TO YOU, FOR SURE.

I SEE EVERYTHING IS THE BEST PART.

UH, CARLOS, GET ME ORIENTED.

WHAT I'M LOOKING AT RIGHT HERE.

I DON'T REALLY WORRY IS THIS.

THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE LEFT WING OF THE COURTHOUSE.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING ON THE, UH, ON THE ORIGINAL PLAN.

WE HAVE THE LEFT WING AND THEN THERE, THE RIGHT WING, THE RIGHT WING IS WHERE THE, UM, THE, THE DEPARTMENT OF SERVICES AND FAR MARSHALL WILL BE.

SO AS YOU'RE FACING THE BUILDING, THIS IS THE WING ON THE LEFT SIDE.

I GOT IT.

UM, SO, WELL, WE DIGESTING THE, THE, THE, THE GREAT EXCITEMENT OF OPTION TWO.

I WANTED TO GIVE YOU THE, UM, A PREVIEW OF KIND OF WHAT WE CAN BE DOING WITH THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

I KNOW IT'S, IT IS AN EXISTING BUILDING.

SO THERE'S SOME CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE FACING, BUT I THINK WE CAN EMBRACE THEM AS PART OF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

AND WE'RE GOING TO GAIN A LOT BY DOING IT.

UH, WE, WE CAN SEE BY THIS PLAN THAT THERE'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE ABOUT DEALING WITH COLUMNS IN, IN, WITHIN THIS SPACE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE CAN STRATEGICALLY PLACED THEM IN SUCH A WAY THAT THEY CAN NOT, THEY SHOULD BE EMBRACED PART OF THE ARCHITECTURE AND THEY BE JUST KIND OF, WHAT WOULD YOU SEE HERE? I MEAN, THEY, THEY WILL NOT BE ON NOTICE AND THAT, AND THAT FASHION, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE PART OF THE INTERIOR FACE.

UM, IT WAS CHALLENGING TO KIND OF LAY OUT KIND OF THE, THE, THE BENCH.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE SITES ARE KEPT.

SO EVERYBODY, ALL THE COMMISSIONERS, THE JUDGE, THE AUDITOR, THE DA, ARE ABLE TO SEE EACH OTHER WELL DURING THE SESSIONS.

SO THAT'S NOT BEING COMPROMISED.

AND AT THE SAME TIME AS THE PUBLIC THAT COME IN, THEY HAVE ALL THOSE VISION OF EVERYBODY BACK AND FORTH.

SO, UM, WE THOUGHT IN MIND, I WANTED TO KEEP BRINGING IN SOME IMAGES THAT MAY GIVE YOU, UH, THE SENSE OF THAT.

ONE OF THE TRADE-OFFS BY REALLY EMBRACING THE COLUMNS AND THE EXISTING PART IS ACTUALLY BEING ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE LIGHT THAT IS GOING TO BE COMING INTO THIS ROOM.

SO IT WILL MAKE THIS PLACE REALLY, REALLY OPEN AND REALLY BRIGHT AND INVITING FOR, UH, DURING THOSE SESSIONS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON HERE.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE A BIG DIFFERENCE FROM WHAT WE SEE HERE TODAY.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BOLDED THE, THE CLOSED SPACE.

AND EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE SESSIONS HERE ON EVERYDAY BASIS, HERE IS GOING TO BE VERY, VERY INVITING.

AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE A STRATEGICALLY PLACED THOSE COLUMNS, KIND OF WHERE THE AISLES ARE.

SO YOU REALLY MAKES THE IMPACT VERY MINIMUM.

WE STILL HAVE GOOD AUDIENCE AND BE ABLE TO SEE BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THAT.

UM, WE CAN BE ABLE TO SEE A GOOD AMOUNT ABOUT 80, 80 SEATS, AND THIS, THEN THIS LAYOUT.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, JUST BY LOOKING AT THIS IMAGES, SO I WANTED TO GIVE YOU THIS PREVIEW AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A CONCEPTUAL LAYOUT.

I MEAN, WE CAN DO THE TWEAKS.

WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS HAPPY WITH THE LAYOUT, BUT I WANT IT TO JUST KIND OF CONVEY THE FACT THAT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT NATURAL LIGHT.

IT REALLY MAKES THIS PLACE REALLY, REALLY SEEING, UH, DURING THE SESSIONS.

SO I KNOW EVERYBODY GOING TO DISTINCTION, THIS IS COMING TO DEAL WITH CHALLENGES THAT THE COUNTY IS FACING.

SO, UH, WE DON'T WANT TO ADD THAT STRESS ON A, AN ENCLOSED PLACE.

SO BY BRINGING THIS NATURAL LIGHT REALLY MAKES TO EVERYTHING FLOW THROUGHOUT.

UM, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE HAVE A, UM, A PREVIEW TO SEE THIS, UH, AS WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS, UH, THESE, UH, REMODELING.

SO ONE OF THE REALLY NICE THINGS ABOUT BEING ABLE TO SEE THESE PICTURES IS REALLY KIND OF HELPS YOU VISUALIZE WHAT THE REST OF THE INTERIOR OF THAT COURTHOUSE CAN LOOK LIKE.

IF WE CAN GET THE RENOVATION GOING, WE CAN REALLY LIGHTEN IT UP.

WE CAN GET, UM, SOME SPACES THAT COMMUNICATE A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

IT DOESN'T, IT'S NOT GOING TO FEEL QUITE SO DISJOINTED.

AND WE CAN JUST REALLY MAKE EVERYTHING FEEL A BIT MORE MODERN AND A BIT MORE USABLE FOR SOME OF THE COUNTY FUNCTIONS.

UH, SINCE, YOU KNOW, THE DESIGN IS A LITTLE OUTDATED IN THERE, BUT THIS GIVES YOU, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY TO SORT OF IMAGINE WHAT WE COULD DO WITH THE SPACE, ALTHOUGH THESE ARE STRICTLY CONCEPTUAL, UM, YOU KNOW, IT IS A REALLY GOOD SORT OF, UH, BOOKMARK, RIGHT? WE STILL HAVE TO BE THINKING ABOUT THIS RENOVATION HAS TO KEEP THE COUNTY MOVING FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS.

SO WE HAD TO REALLY THINK IN THAT FASHION, THAT IT HAS TO BE VERY PERMANENT AND REALLY WORKING FOR, FOR YOU ALL THE COUNTY FOR, FOR THE NEXT YEARS TO COME.

THIS IS THE FIRST I'VE SEEN.

SO THAT'S ALL WE HAVE.

DO YOU GUYS HAVE QUESTIONS WHO COULD HAVE A QUESTION AND HAMPSHIRE OVERWHELMING? WELL, I WILL SAY THIS, THAT, AND I APPRECIATE Y'ALL THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX AND BRINGING THESE IDEAS TO US TO DEAL AND BEING ALL INCLUSIVE.

ALTHOUGH

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WELL, THE OPTION TWO IS SO, SO ANYWAY, IT, I THINK THAT WE WOULD LIE.

I WOULD LIKE TO GET YOUR POWERPOINT AND YOUR CONCEPTS AND YOUR OPTIONS, AND THEN THAT'S WORKSHOP THIS DEDICATED SOME TIME TO REALLY GO THROUGH IT INSTEAD OF A 10 MINUTE THUMBS UP.

Y'ALL GO.

SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS SEE IF WE CAN GET THIS INFORMATION, REVIEW IT, AND THEN COME BACK AND SIT DOWN AND DEDICATE SOME TIME TO REALLY GO OVER THIS AND WALK THROUGH IT ALL MONEY-WISE AND EVERYTHING.

AND I KNOW WHAT THESE ARE APPROXIMATE DOLLARS.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW, BUT THEN WE CAN, WE CAN KIND OF GET THE BIG PICTURE HERE INSTEAD OF JUST SOMETHING JUST REAL QUICK.

THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE US.

DO NOT UNDERSTAND.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THE TIMEFRAME.

CAUSE I I'M THINKING ABOUT, AND WE GOT A HARD DEADLINE IN 25, RIGHT? ALL OF THE MONEY HAS TO BE SPENT.

IF W IF ANY OF THIS, THE IDEAS, SOME OF THIS WOULD BE OUR POOR MONEY.

UH, I CAN SEE THAT WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE PROBABLY, HOPEFULLY THAT WE COULD, WITHIN THE COURSE OF THREE, TWO OR THREE WORKSHOPS, WE COULD ADVANCE THIS THING TO THE POINT THAT WE WOULD MAKE A DECISION AND, AND Y'ALL HAVE YOUR MARCHING ORDERS AS TO WHICH WAY WE'RE GOING TO GO, BECAUSE I AM, UH, I, UM, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE 2025 DEADLINE.

SO THE BIGGEST THING ABOUT TIMELINE RIGHT NOW, AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S NO PROBLEM TO BRING IT BACK AND ABSOLUTELY TALK ABOUT THE CONCEPTS AND STUFF, BUT MAINLY WE NEED IT TO GET A FEEL FOR, IS THIS EVEN A POSSIBILITY, BECAUSE THERE WILL BE SOME TIME THAT WE'VE GOT TO DEDICATE TO PUT TOGETHER CONSTRUCTION COSTS FOR THIS.

AND SO IT'S NOT REALLY AN EITHER OR BECAUSE WE KIND OF KNOW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR RENOVATING BOTH BUILDINGS, BUT IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE EVEN NEED TO EXPLORE AT THIS POINT OR STICK WITH OUR ORIGINAL PLAN IS KIND OF THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE NEEDING TO GO RIGHT NOW.

AND I THINK SOMETHING'S GOING TO IMPACT THE COUNTY FOR 20, 25 YEARS.

IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE DECIDED WITH A 15 MINUTE PRESENTATION, SO I'D HAVE TO GET BACK TOGETHER SO WE CAN SIT DOWN, GET ALL THE THOUGHT PROCESS OUT HERE, DISCUSS IT.

JUST KIND OF SLOW DOWN A LITTLE BIT 25.

I KNOW IT'S GETTING ON GETTING OFF PRETTY QUICK, BUT WELL, THINK WE HAVE SOME TIME IN THE NEXT WEEK OR WHATEVER TO GET TOGETHER AND ACTUALLY SIT DOWN AND I WANT TO HEAR EVERYBODY'S THOUGHT PROCESS.

WHAT, THERE'S A LOT MORE THAT WENT INTO THIS MONEY-WISE AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAN JUST THIS PRESENTATION.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO BE, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR IT.

SO THAT'S MINE, BECAUSE AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO, YEAH.

I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE, THE KIND OF NUMBERS YOU'RE LOOKING AT IN DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PRESENTED IN THIS.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? HOW MUCH WERE THE DIFFERENCES THERE? ARE WE GOING TO GAIN ANYTHING? ARE WE GOING TO COST US A LOT MORE? THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE TO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANT TO INTERJECT AS PART OF THIS DISCUSSION IS THAT THE MAIN BENEFITS OF GOING WITH THE OPTION TO THAT WOULD FINDING OUT IS THE FACT THAT WE'RE GOING TO ON OPTION.

ONE IS WE'RE DEALING WITH TWO BUILDINGS AND BOTH BUILDINGS ARE EXISTING RUNDOWN.

YOU KNOW, THERE'VE BEEN FOR AWHILE.

SO DEALING WITH THE REMODELING OF TWO BUILDINGS AND THE ENCOUNTERS THAT YOU FIND ON THOSE TWO BUILDINGS, THEY'RE VERY CHALLENGING.

AND THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO SPREAD OUT THAT BUDGET ON THOSE TWO, BY GOING TO THE OPTION TWO IS WHAT ARE YOU ACTUALLY, YOU ARE ACCUMULATE THAT, THAT BUDGET INTO ONE LOCATION.

AND ALSO THE TIMING IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE NOW WE CAN WORK ON THAT LOCATION AND DO IT A PERMANENT LOCATION.

WE DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH TAX AND MOVING OUT AND COMING BACK KIND OF THING.

SO WE ACTUALLY GOING TO, ON THE FIRST TIME WE'RE GOING TO DO THE TAX OFFICE THE WAY IT SHOULD BE IMPLEMENTED BEFORE THEY MOVE OUT OF THIS BUILDING.

SO WHEN WE'RE DONE WITH THE COURTHOUSE, EVERYBODY MOVES FROM THE ANNEX AND THEN WE BAQUET THE ANNEX.

THERE WAS NO THIS BACK AND FORTH.

SO THAT SHOULD BE A TIME BENEFIT AS WELL AS WELL USED BUDGET, BECAUSE WE'RE NOW CONSOLIDATED INTO ONE LOCATION, BUT I HEAR YOU, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAD TO DO THAT.

AND YEAH, AND THIS WAS JUST A PREVIEW TO GIVE YOU JUST A SENSE OF, WITH THINGS THAT CAN HAPPEN ON THAT COURTHOUSE.

WE PROBABLY ALSO NEED TO SPEAK WITH OUR REAL ESTATE CONSULTANT AND, AND TRY TO GET, UH, UH, AT LEAST A BALLPARK OF WHAT THIS PARTICULAR FACILITY MIGHT BE MARKETABLE FOR.

I DIDN'T WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ANYTHING, UNLESS WE KNEW THAT THIS WAS EVEN AN IDEA THAT ALL WENT INTO CONSIDER.

SO BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO START ANYTHING LIKE THAT WITHOUT NO, NO, ABSOLUTELY.

BUT, BUT I MEAN, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER HUNT THAT IT'S, IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO IMPACT KAUFMAN COUNTY FOR THE NEXT 25 PLUS YEARS.

AND, AND, UH, BUT I DO ALSO SEE THAT THERE, WE NEED TO HAVE A SENSE OF URGENCY ABOUT IT AND, AND, YOU KNOW, GET A WORKSHOP, MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WE'VE EVALUATED WHAT THE POTENTIAL COSTS ARE VERSUS WHAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO RECOUP, UH, YOU KNOW, AND HA HAVE THOSE, UM, ALL THAT INFORMATION AVAILABLE FOR DECISION POINTS.

SO I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS WE NEED TO IS AS SOON AS THE SCHEDULE PERMITS FOR Y'ALL,

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CAUSE I, YOU KNOW, JUST, I DON'T KNOW THIS EAGER IF WE DO BOTH OF THESE BUILDINGS OR WE DO JUST DO THE COURTHOUSE.

UM, I, I JUST KNOW HOW, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING WITH OLD BUILDINGS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THERE'S ALWAYS THINGS THAT HAPPEN THAT CAUSED DELAY.

AND THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT YOU DIDN'T REALIZE AND WELL, AND YOU DON'T, YOU ALSO DON'T WANT TO GET DOWN THE PATH AND COMMIT TO, WELL, LET'S DO ONE BUILDING AND THEN GIVE US SOME TIME AND WE'LL GET TO THE OTHER BUILDING BECAUSE I BOTH PLANS ARE THEY'RE INTERRELATED, THEY'RE INTERDEPENDENT.

AND SO IF YOU STOP AT ONE PLACE, YOU'RE GOING TO BE LEFT, HANGING IN ANOTHER AND YOU MAY INCUR MORE COSTS IN THE LONG RUN.

THAT'S NOT REALLY WHAT I MEAN.

I JUST THINK FOR FAIR CONSIDERATION, CAUSE YOU ASKED ME RIGHT NOW, THIS IS NOT EVEN AN OPTION TO REMIND THE SECOND OPTION.

NO, NO, BUT I THINK FOR FAIR CONSIDERATION OF THE OP OF THE OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE, I NEED TO BE EDUCATED ON BOTH OPTIONS.

HOW MANY, BUT YOU ASKED ME RIGHT NOW TO MAKE A SPLIT SECOND AFTER A 15 MINUTE PRESENTATION, I'LL TELL YOU RIGHT UP.

NO, WELL, YOU KNOW THIS AND THAT'S WHY THESE DISCUSSIONS BE DONE IN A DEAL.

I KNOW, BUT IF YOU ASK ME RIGHT NOW, IF YOU ASKED ME, SO I JUST THINK FAIR CONSIDERATION WOULD BE TO GET EDUCATED ON BOTH OPTIONS.

THE WHY'S THE WHY NOTS THE BENEFITS, THE MONEY, AND WE'LL MAKE AN EDUCATED DECISION EVENTUALLY.

SO I'D LIKE TO HAVE SOME SUPPORT FOR THE IDEA THAT WE, THAT WE, WHAT I, WHAT I THINK WHAT WE DON'T WANT, WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE, THE COST CONSEQUENCES, THE TIMING AND ALL THAT SORT OF THING.

AND THEN WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION AND GIVE THEM THE MARCHING ORDERS AND NO NINE MONTHS LATER COMING BACK AND SAY, WELL, THIS DEPARTMENT DOESN'T WANT TO BE IN THIS PART OF THE BUILDING.

AND ONLY WE'VE GOT TO WAIT.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TIME TO BE CONSTANTLY MAKING CHANGES ONCE WE SET THE COURSE.

RIGHT? YEAH.

BUT THAT'S WHY WE NEED THE TIME TO PUT IT TOGETHER AS WELL.

FRONT, UH, THE 20, THE 20, 25 DATE FOR THOSE FUNDS TO BE, UH, SPENT.

I MEAN, DOES THAT MEAN THOSE FUNDS ACTUALLY HAD TO BE SPENT AND DONE WITH, OR WAS THAT COMMITTED? I SPENT, OKAY.

KAREN, THEY HAVE TO BE SPENT YES.

COMMITTED.

IS THAT WHAT THEY GOTTA BE COMMITTED BY 24 BY THE END OF 24.

AND THEY, THEY HAVE TO BE, EVERYTHING HAS TO BE SPENT.

UP REGULAR AND DISCUSSING CONSIDER APPROVAL OF COUNTY TRAVEL CREDIT CARD ACCOUNT AND POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND I THINK WE'RE SEEING, YOU KNOW, IN THE ECONOMY TODAY WITH MATERIAL SHORTAGES AND SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES, THAT, THAT EVEN, UH, IT REALLY NEEDS TO ACCELERATE OUR DECISION PROCESS BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT IF IT'S GOING TO GET BETTER OR, YOU KNOW, CONCEIVABLY WORSE, YOU KNOW, ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO, I GAVE YOU A COPY OF THE ARBITRATION CALCULATION AND WE WERE STILL WITHIN THAT TIMEFRAME THAT WE NEEDED TO BE.

SO WE WOULDN'T OWE AN ARBITRATION CALCULATION CALLS.

SO WE, WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE, UH, THE NEXT MEETING AND HOPEFULLY THE PURPOSE OF THAT MEETING WOULD BE FOR YOU TO HEAR SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FROM US.

SECOND MEETING WOULD BE ANSWERING THOSE QUESTIONS.

HOPEFULLY WE WOULD HAVE A PRETTY GOOD FEEL FOR WHAT OUR BEST OPTION IS GOING TO BE AT THAT POINT.

AND THEN THE THIRD MEETING, IF WE HAD TO HAVE A THIRD MEETING, IT WOULD BE SORT OF A TUNE-UP MEETING TO JUST, AND THEN AFTER THE THIRD MEETING, HOPEFULLY YOU ALL COULD HAVE YOUR MARK.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE A FEW CHANGES.

AND AFTER THAT, I MEAN, YOU'RE GOING TO FIND OUT THINGS THAT YOU DON'T KNOW ONCE YOU STARTED DIGGING INTO IT, BUT, BUT ALSO MONEY.

I MEAN, YEAH, THAT'S PART OF IT.

I MEAN, YEAH, WE JUST NEED TO KNOW DOLLAR FIGURES TOO.

THAT'S THE KIND OF IMPACT THAT STUFF.

SO, AND, AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO IT'S AS FAST AS MY HOPE IS AS FAST AS Y'ALL CAN RESPOND TO THE QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES SOME TIME FOR YOU TO RESEARCH OUR QUESTIONS PROBABLY, BUT AS SOON AS YOU CAN GET THOSE AND GET THOSE MEETINGS AS CLOSELY SINKED UP AS WE CAN DO IT.

YEAH, WE ARE.

WE ARE ABLE TO DO THAT.

WE'RE READY.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY LAST QUESTIONS? OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

VERY INTERESTING.

UH, NEXT

[16. Raylan Smith; Discuss and consider approval for County Travel Credit Card Account and Policy Recommendations. ]

SO THIS IS KIND OF TO GET SOME DIRECTION FROM YOU.

UH,

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WE DO RUN ACROSS QUITE A FEW ISSUES.

WHENEVER WE HAVE EMPLOYEES WHO ARE TRAVELING FOR CONFERENCES, UH, WHETHER IT BE THE HOLDS ON THE CREDIT CARDS, IF THEY'RE HAVING TO USE THEIR PERSONAL CREDIT CARDS FOR HOLDS, ET CETERA.

UM, SO SPEAKING WITH THE SHERIFF, HE BROUGHT THIS UP, OBVIOUSLY HE'S GOT THE LARGEST NUMBER OF PERSONNEL.

UM, ONE POSSIBILITY THAT I WOULD LIKE TO THROW OUT WOULD BE A SEPARATE CREDIT CARD ACCOUNT SO THAT IT DIDN'T TAKE, IT WOULD NOT ENCUMBER THE ONE CREDIT CARD SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE THAT Y'ALL BUY MATERIALS AND STUFF WITH, BUT THAT WE WOULD SET UP MAYBE FIVE TO 10 CARDS THAT COULD BE CHECKED OUT BY EMPLOYEES.

AND THIS WOULD BE FOR HOTEL STAYS ONLY EVERYTHING ELSE WOULD STILL GO THROUGH THE REGULAR PROCESSES.

UM, I JUST, I DIDN'T WANT TO EXPLORE A LOT OF THESE OPTIONS UNLESS YOU WERE INTERESTED IN PROVIDING THIS.

IT, IT IS CUMBERSOME ON EMPLOYEES, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE SEND THEM TO CONFERENCES, UM, TO PUT UP THEIR PERSONAL CREDIT CARDS.

AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE ALSO RUNNING INTO HOTELS THAT DON'T WANT TO TAKE THE CHECKS ANYMORE, EVEN IF THEY DO, THEY STILL ASK YOU TO PUT A HOLD.

SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GO IN, WE DO A LOT OF CREDIT CARD AUTHORIZATIONS PRIOR TO LIKE, THROUGH THE PURCHASING OFFICE THAT THEY'LL GO THROUGH US.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND PUT A CARD ON FILE.

BUT A LOT OF TIMES STILL, EVEN THEN AT THE HOTEL, THEY ASK EMPLOYEES FOR THEIR CARDS FOR INCIDENTALS.

SO, UM, LIKE I SAID, I, I WOULD WANT TO DO A CHECKOUT POLICY MORE THAN JUST ASSIGNING THESE OUT TO THE, UM, BECAUSE ANY GIVEN TIME WE COULD HAVE DIFFERENT PEOPLE OUT AND ABOUT, AND IT WOULD JUST BE EASIER TO KEEP UP WITH, BUT I WANTED TO GET Y'ALL'S OPINION ON IT BEFORE.

IT'S THE SAME THING WE DID AT THE CITY OF IRVINGTON.

THAT'S OVER THERE.

IT'S MADE IT, MADE IT A LOT SIMPLER.

SO W WE WOULD JUST, WE WOULD CHANGE.

WE WOULD ADD TO THAT.

WE WOULD ADD TO THE CREDIT CARD POLICY, AND THEN WE WOULD CHANGE SOME OF THE TRAVEL POLICIES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE JUST TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.

BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE Y'ALL WERE GOOD BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD.

AND WE JUST GIVE IT CREDIT CARD TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT THAT THEY'D MAKE THE RESERVATIONS FOR THEIR PEOPLE.

AND, UH, IT'S WHATEVER YOU DON'T DO THIS, THE PROBLEM WE'RE HAVING, LIKE I SAID, NOT TAKING CHECKS.

AND THEN, UH, WHEN WE DID CARRY A CHECK, THEY TOOK IT.

BUT SINCE THE CHECK IS NOT CLEARED, THEY PUT IT ON THEIR DEBIT CARD ABOUT $1,500.

SO THAT'S THE PROBLEM WE'RE HAVING.

SO WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT SOMEHOW TO, WE CAN TAKE THIS AND I DON'T CARE HOW Y'ALL PLAN TO DO IT.

I KNOW I'VE GOT THE MOST EMPLOYEES.

I KNOW WHAT WILL COME CHECK THEM OUT FROM HER THAT SIGNED THEM TO US.

I DON'T CARE, BUT IT'S ONLY TRAVEL ONLY.

THAT WAS MY BIG THING.

WE, WE TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING, BUT TRAVEL ITSELF FOR MOTEL.

AND THAT IS WHAT WOULD ACCOUNT FOR, YEAH.

SO IS IT JUST HOTEL OR WOULD IT BE FOR THAT AIRLINE AIRLINES OR RIGHT.

ALL THAT, THAT YOU SAID THIS DON'T TELL YEAH.

WHERE THEY WOULD ACTUALLY CHECK THE CARD WHERE THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, WHAT FAIR, YOU KNOW, I HAD TO DO, DON'T TELL HER THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY I'M GOING THIS CAN'T, SHE CAN'T JUST PURCHASE.

DON'T TELL THEM WE CAN GET THERE.

I DON'T KNOW.

WE, WE SET THAT UP AND SENT CHECKS AND THEY GOT WHERE THEY DON'T WANT THE CHECKS NO MORE.

I'M TELLING YOU, THAT'S THE ONE, UM, PURCHASE IT WITH HER WHEN SHE DOES IT ON A CREDIT CARD AND THEN ITS OWN CREDIT CARD.

YOU HAVE A LOT OF TIMES WHEN YOU GET THERE TOO, THEY WANT TO SEE THAT CREDIT CARD.

THEY WANT TO YOU THE ORIGINAL CAR.

IF YOU CALL IT AN ADVANCED THEM, THEY, AND THEY OKAY AT THROUGH THE CREDIT CARD, THEN IT'S, IT'S ALREADY OVER.

AND THEN WE STILL GOT INCIDENTALLY.

SOME OF THESE PLACES TAKE THREE OR $400 AND PUTTING IT ON THEIR PERSONAL ACCOUNTS.

AND THE ONE THING I BETTER NOT BE MAD WITH THE CURRENT CREDIT CARDS.

WE HAVE ONE SOLID CREDIT LIMIT FROM THE COUNTY.

AND SO IF WE'VE GOT 10 OFFICERS, YOU KNOW, AT HOTELS, $250 AND NOT LIKE THAT, THAT EATS UP YOUR CREDIT LINE ON YOUR CARD.

SO THAT'S WHY WE WERE LOOKING AT DOING A COMPLETELY SEPARATE ACCOUNT.

THAT WAY WE DIDN'T CLOG UP JUST TRANSITIONING TO A CREDIT, A TRAVEL CREDIT CARD, WHETHER IT'S AIRFARE, UH, RENTAL CARS.

I MEAN, IT, IT REALLY JUST GIVES YOU AN ENHANCED PAPER TRAIL AND, AND, UH, JUST MAKES THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE, UH, PROJECT JUST SIMPLER.

WE WERE ALREADY HAVING THIS THING OF PEOPLE GETTING THEIR PER DIEM, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO SCHOOL, THE SCHOOL GETS CANCELED AND THEY'VE ALREADY SPENT THE MONEY.

IT DEPENDS ON HOW IT'S STRUCTURED.

YOU CAN SET UP THE MERCHANT CODES WHERE THEY CAN'T USE IT FOR ENTERTAINMENT, ALCOHOL, WHATEVER, BECAUSE

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AND SO I'M HAVING TO ASK THEM TO GIVE IT BACK TO ME.

SO IF THEY HAD THE CARD, THEY WOULDN'T, THIS, THAT WOULDN'T HAPPEN EITHER.

AND IF YOU PAY IN ADVANCE, YOU CAN DO THAT ON A CREDIT CARD OR BY CHECK.

BUT THEN IF YOU HAVE TO CANCEL, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO AND TRY TO GET YOUR MONEY BACK AND IT'S GOING TO BE A BIG HASSLE.

SO ANY OTHER, I SEEM LIKE A GOOD IDEA TO ME.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME? OKAY.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE COUNTY TRAVEL CREDIT CARD POLICY? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WE HAVE MOTION COMMISSIONER BARBERS, OR SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR.

OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES

[17. Raylan Smith; Discuss and consider bridge purchase and installation located SE of 1390 on County Road 4095, Pet 4, in the amount of $187,551.15; utilizing approved Sole Source Vendor - The Henry Group. ]

BACK TO REAGAN.

DISCUSS, CONSIDERED A BRIDGE PURCHASE AND INSTALLATION FOR SE OF 1390 ON COUNTY ROAD, 495, PRECINCT FOUR IN THE AMOUNT OF 187,000 5 51.

SO THIS IS THE SOLE SOURCE VENDOR THAT YOU APPROVED A FEW WEEKS AGO, AND THIS IS JUST ANOTHER BRIDGE PRODUCT PROJECT.

AND THIS WILL BE PAID OUT OF HIS ROAD AND BRIDGE FUNDS.

THE QUESTIONS.

IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION REGARDING A A HUNDRED THAT PURCHASE ON ITEM 17? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FROM COMMISSIONER CASES OR A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER BARBARA DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

TEEN DISCUSSING CONSIDER AWARD OF CONTRACT TO MB CONCRETE CONSTRUCTION FOR CONCRETE REMOVAL AND REPLACEMENT LOCATED AT PAR FIVE.

NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES AUTOMATE

[18. Raylan Smith; Discuss and consider award of contract to MB Concrete Construction for concrete removal and replacement located at Par Five Dr, Crandall, Pet 1, in the amount of $103,760; utilizing RFP 21-26. ]

DRIVE A CRANDALL PRECINCT ONE IN THE AMOUNT OF 103,007 60 UTILIZING RP 2126.

SO THIS IS ONE OF OUR ROAD MATERIAL VENDORS WE DID OBTAIN OR PRECINCT.

ONE DID OBTAIN QUOTES FROM ALL VENDORS.

AND THIS WOULD BE THE RECOMMENDED BID QUESTIONS.

YES, THE UNDERMINING ALL THE HEADWALLS IS, UH, THAT'S UH, SEVERAL CULVERTS ONE WAY IN ONE WAY OUT IN, UH, JUST SHOWS YOU HOW EXPENSIVE IT IS JUST TO DEAL WITH CONCRETE ROBES.

THIS IS JUST SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DO TO MAINTAIN.

SO LIKE A MOTOR WOULD GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER HUNT TO APPROVE THAT PURCHASE HAS PRESENTED AN AUTOMATE TEEN.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE OPPOSED.

NO MOTION CARRIES,

[19. Commissioner Hunt; Discuss/Consider approving an interlocal cooperation contract with the City of Post Oak Bend for the mowing of municipal roadways. ]

UH, COMMISSIONER HUNT, DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING THE INNER LOCAL COOPERATION CONTRACT WITH THE CITY OF POST OAK BEND FOR THE MOOD FOR THE MOWING OF MUNICIPAL ROADWAYS.

IT'S THE SAME THING WE'VE DONE FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS FOR THEM.

SO, UH, JUST THE SKIN CLOSE TO THE MOMENT SEASONS.

WE WANT TO GO GET THE MONEY IN ESCROW SO WE CAN GET MOVING FORWARD, MAKE A MOTION.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND APPROVE IT.

COMMISSIONER HUNT MAKES A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT, UH, INNER LOCAL COOPERATION AGREEMENT WITH OAK WITH POSTAL BAND IS OUR SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE OPPOSED.

NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES

[20. Commissioner Hunt; Discuss/consider approving Lease Agreement with Cedar Crest Development Company, LLC. ]

BACK TO COMMISSIONER HUNT, DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING LEASE AGREEMENT WITH CEDAR CREST DEVELOPMENT COMPANY, LLC.

UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT HERE.

THE COURT AND, UM, DEBRA IS REALLY WORKED HARD AND WORKING OUT EVERYTHING FOR THE LEASE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT FOLKS TO USE PART UTILIZED PART OF THE COUNTY LAND TO SET UP THEIR HEADQUARTERS.

SO I THINK THE LEASE LOOKS FINE.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND APPROVE IT.

WE HAVE A MOTION COMMISSIONER HUNT TO APPROVE THAT LEASE WITH CEDAR CREST HAS PRESENTED.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE OPPOSED.

NO MOTION CARRIES

[21. Commissioner Phillips; Discuss/consider approving Cost Sharing Agreement with Municipal Utility District Number 5 for left turn lane project at FM 740 and Lake Ray Hubbard. ]

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSED, CONSIDER APPROVING COST SHARING AGREEMENT WITH MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT NUMBER FIVE FOR LEFT TURN LANE, PROJECT SEVEN 40 AND LAKE RAY HUBBARD.

THAT'S A TURN LANE, LIQUID BACKING UP THE TRAFFIC ON SEVEN 40.

ALL THE WAY TO 80 WOMEN WERE OREGON ON IT.

SINCE ABOUT 2018, THEY GET THE PERMISSION FROM TECHSTOP BAIL, LEAVE HIM, GET THIS TURN LANE IN CAUSE THEY WON'T PUT IT IN.

UM, AND, AND, UH, THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR IT EITHER, I GUESS.

BUT ANYWAY, WE WORKED PRETTY HARD ON IT WITH THE MUD DISTRICT AND, AND ALL THE ENGINEERING HAS BEEN DONE BY WESTWIND ENGINEERING OF THE MUD DISTRICT.

AND SO WE'RE PAYING FOR PART AND THEY'RE PAYING FOR PART IT'S A MILLION DOLLAR TURN LANE.

NICE.

YEAH, WE'RE PAYING ABOUT HALF OF IT AND THEY'RE PAYING THAT.

YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT MR. PHILLIPS MOVED TO PRESET TO APPROVE THAT COST SHARING AGREEMENT.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER HUNT.

DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

POSE.

NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES

[22. Auditor; Discuss/Consider line-item. ]

NOW TO THE AUDITOR DISCUSS CONSIDER LINE ITEM TRANSFERS.

GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LINE ITEM TRANSFERS OR BUDGET AMENDMENTS?

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IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS FOR THE AUDITOR, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE A LOT OF LATERAL TRANSFERS IT BUDGET AMENDMENT HAS PRESENTED.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WE HAVE THE MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER BARBARA DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

[23. Auditor; Discuss/Consider claims for payment. ]

UH, ITEM 23, DISCUSS CONSIDER CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT, YOUR CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT OR $3,694,903 AND 93 CENTS 2,000,189.

IS YOUR FACILITIES BOND PAYMENTS OUT ON THE FACILITIES, UH, TIF TAX LEVY OF ALMOST 700,000.

AND THAT'S ONLY FOR THE CITY OF FORNEY AND KAUFMAN TERRELL AND THE POWER CENTER HAS NOT COME THROUGH BECAUSE MR. JONES IS BEHIND GETTING IT DONE AND I'VE BEEN EMAILING HIM AND MIKE SAM'S AT THE CITY MANAGER AND THEY'LL BE GETTING THAT TO ME SHORTLY, BUT I WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE OF JUST THOSE TWOS COSTS.

THAT MUCH THEY'VE WENT UP WAY BECAUSE OF THE VALUATIONS ARE GOING TO KEEP GOING UP.

UM, QUESTIONS TO THE AUDITOR BACK CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT.

NO, IF THERE ARE NONE, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED? SO MOVE.

WE HAVE THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER CATES.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND, A SECOND.

COMMISSIONER HUNT, DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE OPPOSED.

NO MOTION CARRIES,

[24. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider exiting regular meeting and enter executive session. ]

UH, ITEM 24, DISCUSS CONSIDER EXITING REGULAR MEETING AND GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

IS THERE A MOTION TO DO SO, SO WE'LL MOVE.

WE HAVE THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER CATES.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER BARBARA DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

WE ARE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 5, 5, 4 0.0 7, 8 7 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS.

NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

[25. Executive Session; Pursuant to 554.087 of the Texas Government Code, Economic Development Negotiations, the Commissioners Court will meet in closed session to discuss the Sowers Storage and Sunbelt Solar Projects. ]

THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT WILL MEET IN CLOSED SESSION TO DISCUSS SOLAR STORAGE AND SUNBELT.

SO WE'RE SOLAR PROJECTS AND UH, WE'LL MEET IN THE CONFERENCE ROOM.

UH, WE ARE BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION.

[26. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider exiting executive session and enter back into regular meeting. ]

NO ACTION WAS TAKEN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

IS THERE A MOTION TO COME BACK INTO REGULAR SESSION? WE HAD THAT MOTION FISHER BARBERS ARE SECOND, SECOND, SECOND.

COMMISSIONER CAGE DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR.

AS OPPOSED? NO.

WE HAVE ITEMS 27, UH, THAT IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ENTERING TO 3 81 AGREEMENT.

[27. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider entering into a Chapter 381 Economic Development Agreement between Kaufman County, Texas, and BT Sowers Storage, LLC. ]

SAME THING FOR, UH, 28.

SO I DON'T THINK WE'RE READY, BUT IS THERE A MOTION FROM 27? UH, HERE, NONE.

[28. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider entering into a Chapter 381 Economic Development Agreement between Kaufman County, Texas, and BT Sunbelt Solar, LLC. ]

THERE A MOTION FROM 28 RIGHT HERE? NONE.

IS THERE A MOTION FROM 29? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING MR. PHILLIPS MOVED TO JOURNEY'S OR SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER BARBARA DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR.