May 10, 2022 Commissioners Court

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THIS REGULAR MEETING

[Call to Order]

TODAY IS TUESDAY, MAY 10TH, 2022 9:00 AM.

AND WE'RE IN THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING ROOM LOCATED IN THE COURTHOUSE ANNEX.

UH, WE'LL START OUR MEETING TODAY.

I'LL OFFER AN INVOCATION FOR US AND, UH, COMMISSIONER BARBARA IS GOING TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGES.

PLEASE STAND HEAVENLY FATHER.

WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THE BLESSINGS OF THIS LIFE.

UH, WE ASK THAT YOU GUIDE US AS WE MAKE, UH, AS WE TRY TO MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR CITIZENS OF KAUFMAN COUNTY.

WE ASK THAT YOU GUARD AND PROTECT THOSE WHO PROTECT US AND THE ARMED FORCES AND OUR, UH, ALL OF OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.

THANK YOU FOR ALL THE BLESSINGS OF THIS LIFE IN JESUS NAME.

AMEN.

I PLEDGE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL HONOR, THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE.

UM, YEAH, GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.

IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE THAT PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN, UH, THE GOINGS ON AT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

UM, FIRST ITEM IN THE AGENDA IS ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.

UM, I HAVE ONE ITEM FOR ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE, BUT IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S READY TO GO YET.

SO WE'LL COME BACK TO THAT IN A FEW MINUTES.

UH, NEXT WE'VE GOT THE CONSENT AGENDA.

IT'S

[2. CONSENT AGENDA]

OKAY, BUT THE MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND ONE COMMISSIONER BARBER DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED.

NO MOTION CARRIES.

UH, NEXT UP WE HAVE

[3. Mary Bullard; Presentation from Mary Bullard on firework sales for Memorial Day Holiday.]

THERE SHE IS.

IF YOU WOULD, UH, COME UP HERE, GIVE US YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND THE FLOOR'S YOURS.

MY NAME'S MARY BULLARD AND I LIVE IN TERRELL, TEXAS ON GRIFFITH AVENUE, 7 29 GRIFFITH AVENUE TECH, UH, TERRELL, WOULD YOU HOLD THAT MICROPHONE DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO YOU? YES, SIR.

AND I ALSO OWN A BUSINESS IN THE SAME PRECINCT OF THAT LIBYAN AND IT'S CALLED BULLARD'S FIREWORKS A FEW WEEKS AGO.

WE HAD SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT FIREWORKS AND THE THREE HOLIDAYS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT I'M HERE TO JUST ASK WHAT WE'VE ALWAYS ASKED FOR, AND THAT IS JUST TO BE ABLE TO SELL, UH, FOR THE MEMORIAL HOLIDAY.

AND, UH, WE START, I LOOKED BACK AND WE WERE RECORDING OUR MEETINGS AT THE TIME, UH, 2017, ABOUT HOW THAT WHEN WE WENT, WHEN WE FIRST WENT AND WE, UH, GOT THE PERMISSION TO SELL IT.

AND SINCE THEN, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE HASN'T BEEN A MAJOR IMPACT ON THE COUNTY.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS SAID, MR. HUNT WAS THE ONE THAT SAID IT IN THAT MEETING, YOU SAID THAT LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

AND SINCE THEN IT'S BEEN GOOD.

WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN OUR COUNTY THAT RELIES ON THEIR FIREWORKS.

INCOME ME IS, IS ONE THAT I, I KNOW WHAT HAPPENS.

I HAVE A PROPERTY TAXES, I HAVE TO PAY INSURANCE.

I HAVE TO PAY ELECTRIC BILLS AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT GOES WITH A SMALL BUSINESS.

AND THEY GO ON WHETHER I OPENED MY DOORS OR NOT.

SO I HOPE THAT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT WILL LOOK AND SEE THAT THE FIREWORKS PEOPLE HAVE TRIED REALLY HARD TO, TO, UH, MAINTAIN THEIR BUSINESS ON THEIR OWN WITHOUT ASKING FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS AND, UH, ALLOW US TO OPEN OUR BUSINESS FOR THOSE FEW DAYS.

IT'S ONLY THE HOLIDAY PLUS FIVE DAYS.

IT'S JUST A VERY SHORT PERIOD.

AND, UH, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO US.

UH, QUESTIONS FOR MS. BULLARD.

WE HAVE A COUPLE OF, UH, I HAVE SOME OTHER FOLKS THAT HAVE JOINED US TODAY THAT HAVE SUBMITTED CARDS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

UH, SO, UH, JAY LINK IS JED ALSO JED ALSUP.

DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK THERE? YOU ARE.

UM, THANK YOU.

HONORABLE JUDGE RICHARDS AND THE COMMISSIONERS OF THE COURT, UH, FOR HAVING ME HERE.

UM, I WAS SURPRISED AT LAST COURT APPEARANCE AND WAS UNPAIR UNPREPARED TO ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS AND COMMENTS ABOUT THE MEMORIAL DAY FIREWORKS.

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UM, OUR FIREWORKS STANDS HAVE BEEN OPENED THE PAST FEW YEARS, AND WE ASSUMED THAT THERE WAS A STANDING ORDER, UH, VERY SIMILAR TO THE OTHER COUNTIES SURROUNDING KAUFMAN COUNTY, UM, UH, THOROUGHLY LISTENED TO YOUR COMMENTS AND HAVE NOTES TO ADDRESS THEM TODAY.

UM, I ALSO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IN HOPES TO GET IN YOUR APPROVAL, UH, TO HELP OUR SMALL BUSINESSES AND MANY SMALL BUSINESSES IN KAUFMAN COUNTY, UM, TO OPEN UP DURING THIS HOLIDAY, UM, ONE OF THE CONCERNS THE BOARD ARE THEY RIMMER IMMIGRANTS.

I AGREE WITH YOUR SENTIMENT AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS FOR OUR FALLEN MILITARY IS MUCH ADMIRED AND WE HAVE LOST MANY TO PROTECT OUR FREEDOMS, AND WE MUST NOT FORGET.

UM, EACH PERSON HAS THEIR OWN WAY OF CELEBRATING MORNING OF THE GREATEST SACRIFICE.

UM, MANY OF MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN ARMS CELEBRATE LA LIFE LOUD AND PROUD AS POSSIBLE.

UM, I THINK THAT IT WAS A GIVEN, GIVEN AWAY TO BACKYARD BARBECUES AND PARTIES.

UH, MEMORIAL DAY IS ONE MORE CELEBRATION FOR THE FALLEN IN MANY WAYS.

UM, COUSIN'S PAIN BALL.

UM, MY BUSINESS IS A VETERAN FIRST RESPONDER OWNED BUSINESS.

I'M A VETERAN AND MY WIFE HAS A TRAUMA ICU NURSE.

UM, WE HIRE, UM, MANY VETERANS TO OPERATE AND RUN OUR BUSINESS, THE FIREWORKS, UH, MOSTLY AS WELL AS OUR PAYROLL BUSINESS THAT'S OPEN YEAR ROUND.

UM, WE ALSO EMPLOY HIGH SCHOOLERS, COMMUNITY MEMBERS, UH, FORNEY AND FORNEY COMBINE CRANDALL AND THE SURROUNDING TOWNS.

UM, THESE TEAM MEMBERS DEPEND ON THIS ADDITIONAL INCOME, MORE THAN EVER WITH THE, UH, THE INFLATION AND THE GAS PRICES AT THEIR ALL TIME HIGHS.

UM, AND SOMETIME, UM, TRADITIONALLY DURING THE MEMORIAL DAY HOLIDAY, UM, CAUSES PAYWALL PROVIDES A FREE POPPING PARK.

IT'S A SAFE AND CLEAN ENVIRONMENT FOR COPLAN COUNTY, UM, UM, FOLKS TO ENJOY, UH, FIREWORKS, UM, IN A SAFE, CLEAN MANNER.

UM, I HAD THE PLEASURE, UH, LAST WEEK OF WORKING WITH, UH, DEPUTY MARSHALL BA UM, BOEING DURING OUR INSPECTION.

SHE MENTIONED THE MARSHALL'S OFFICE WAS SHORTHANDED.

IT WAS A RELIEF.

THE INSPECTOR SAYING STAY IN SOONER THAN LATER.

UM, AS THEY HAVE OVER A HUNDRED SANDERS IN THE COUNTY TO BE DONE BEFORE MID JUNE, UH, THE INSPECTION HAS DONE ONE TIME ANNUALLY, UH, WHICH IS GOOD UNTIL JANUARY OF 2023.

UM, ANY STANDS EARLY WILL ALLEVIATE A HEAVY WORKLOAD IN JUNE.

UM, COUSIN'S PAYROLL HAS ALREADY COMPLETED OURS, UM, TO HELP LIGHTEN THE LOAD IN THE UPCOMING MONTH.

UM, WE ARE A SMALL BUSINESS THAT SUPPORTS COMMUNITY AND WE HOPE THE COURT CAN SUPPORT US TODAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND IF YOU'LL HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, I'VE GOT SOME STATISTICS, IF YOU WANT TO HEAR ANY OF THAT STUFF.

THANKS.

ALL RIGHT.

I APPRECIATE Y'ALL.

AND SO WE ALSO HAVE AN I'M SORRY IF I'M NOT READING THIS CORRECTLY, ANDY SULK, DID I PRONOUNCE YOUR LAST NAME? RIGHT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, WELL, IT'S ONLY GOT FOUR LETTERS IN IT, A LOT OF DIFFERENT STUFF.

UM, MS. BULLARD AND THE GENTLEMEN FROM KEVIN'S COUSINS, PAINTBALL COVERED A LOT OF WHAT I WAS GOING TO COVER TODAY.

I SPENT A LOT OF TIME THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS, TRYING TO PREPARE FOR THIS MEETING, UM, TO PRESENT TO Y'ALL WHAT I WANTED TO PRESENT.

A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I HEARD.

AND I DID WATCH THE MEETING THAT, YOU KNOW, HAPPENED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

ONE OF THE CONCERNS WAS, UH, ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS TALKED ABOUT THE, THE MEDICINE DEBRIS IS LEFT BEHIND BY FIREWORK POPPERS.

AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR EVERYBODY, BUT THE ONES THAT I DO KNOW, WE DO WANT TO BE GOOD STEWARDS TO THE FIREWORK INDUSTRY.

AND AFTER HEARING THAT WE WILL DEFINITELY PUT SIGNS ON OUR DOORS AND EXPRESS TO PEOPLE TO PLEASE CLEAN UP AFTER YOURSELF THAT THIS STUFF COULD, AT SOME POINT IMPACT US BEING ABLE TO SELL FIREWORKS, YOU KNOW, LEAVING MESSAGES AND BEING A HINDRANCE TO THE COUNTY.

UM, ALSO I JUST WANT TO SAY LOOKING INTO IT, YOU KNOW, ME AND MS. BULLARD HAD BEEN COMING FOR THE LAST FIVE OR SIX YEARS TO GET THIS HOLIDAY PASS.

AND ALWAYS THE BIG DISCUSSION IS, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S APPROPRIATE OR NOT ON MEMORIAL DAY.

AND, AND I TOTALLY RESPECT EVERYONE'S OPINION THAT WHAT MAKES UP OUR GREAT NATION HAS ALL THE DIFFERENT OPINIONS.

SO I JUST GOT ON GOOGLE LAST NIGHT AND THEY LOOKED AT A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH AND JUST BECAUSE I WANTED TO KNOW MYSELF, YOU KNOW, FOR SOMETHING I'M FIGHTING FOR, UM, SO MANY PLAYS, DALLAS SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA DOES A MUSIC AND FIREWORKS TO FOR MEMORIAL DAY TO CELEBRATE OUR VETERANS, UH, CORPUS CHRISTI, THE WOODLANDS IN TEXAS.

AND THAT BEING SAID, LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT AT ALL DISCOUNTED ANYBODY'S OPINION OR BELIEFS IN IT, BUT LIKE I SAID, THERE IS A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPINIONS AND I JUST PRAY THAT WE CAN COME TO A DECISION TODAY THAT HONOR ALL THEM OPINIONS AND THE FREEDOMS THAT OUR VETERANS FIGHT FOR.

I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY AND APPRECIATE THAT.

WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN ABLE TO HAVE A GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH Y'ALL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

UM, SO THE SUBJECT OF VETERANS VETERANS HAS COME UP.

UM, WE HAVE KIND OF A VETERAN EXPERT, UH, OUR VETERANS SERVICES, OFFICER ROBERT D YOU

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GOOD MORNING, JUDGE COMMISSIONERS.

SO, UM, I'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH FOLKS IN THE PAST.

UM, I SERVED 24 YEARS SO THAT EACH OF THE PEOPLE BEHIND ME WOULD HAVE A CHOICE TO MAKE, OR HAVE THE FREEDOM TO MAKE CHOICES THAT THEY WANT TO MAKE.

SO I CERTAINLY DON'T ENVY THE CHOICE OR THE DECISION THAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE ON A PERSONAL LEVEL.

UM, I DO NOT POP FIREWORKS AT A FUNERAL.

AND FOR ME, MEMORIAL DAY IS MORE OF A SOMBER HOLIDAY, A HOLIDAY TO GET TOGETHER WITH FAMILY AND LOVED ONES TO, TO GO TO CEMETERIES AND HONOR THE FALLEN WITH FLAGS AND YELLOW RIBBONS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

UH, SO FOR ME, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT MEMORIAL DAY IS A CELEBRATORY IN, IN THE, THE SAME NATURE THAT I WOULD SAY THE 4TH OF JULY OR SOME OTHER TYPE OF MAJOR, YOU KNOW, EXPLOSIVE, HAPPY CELEBRATION.

IT'S NOT A HAPPY DAY.

IT'S A SOMBER DAY.

IT'S A SAD DAY.

IT'S A DAY OF REFLECTION AND REMEMBRANCE.

SO, UH, THAT BEING SAID, I ALSO DID SOME RESEARCH.

AND AS THE GENTLEMAN POINTED OUT, THERE ARE SOME LARGER ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS THE ONES HE MENTIONED THAT DO USE FIREWORKS AS A PART OF THEIR MEMORIAL DAY SERVICE AND CEREMONIES AND WHATNOT.

THERE ARE NONE, UM, AT THE CAPITOL, YOU KNOW, AT, AT BIG WHITE HOUSE, THERE'S, THERE'S NONE THERE.

UM, THERE'S NONE, UH, ON ANY MILITARY INSTALLATION THAT I HAVE EVER SERVED ON IN MY CAREER, WHICH HAS NUMEROUS, THAT HAS EVER USED FIREWORKS AS A MEANS OF HONORING OR CELEBRATING THAT HOLIDAY.

UM, AND WE DO DO EVENTS.

THEY JUST DON'T USUALLY INCLUDE THEY, THEY'RE MORE SOMBER, THEY'RE MORE REFLECTIVE, MORE REMEMBRANCE.

SO ANY QUESTIONS OF ME WHILE YOU'RE HERE? YES, SIR.

WE DO.

THIS WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD TIME TO REMIND EVERYBODY ABOUT WHAT, WHAT THE PLANS ARE FOR MEMORIAL DAY.

JUST NOT A SEGUE, RIGHT? YES, IT IS WONDERFUL.

SO, UM, ON MEMORIAL DAY ITSELF, KAUFMAN COUNTY VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK, WE'LL HOST A MEMORIAL CEREMONY AS WE HAVE EVERY YEAR WITH THE EXCEPTION OF COVID.

UM, THE CEREMONY WILL BEGIN AT 1100 AND WE'LL CONCLUDE IT SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 1145 AND 12 LUNCH WILL BE PROVIDED BY THE AMERICAN LEGION POST 1 65 HERE IN KAUFMAN.

UH, WE ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO COME OUT.

UM, WE HAVE A REALLY NICE GUEST SPEAKER LAID ON, AND I'M NOT GOING TO SPOIL THAT YET.

UM, AND SO, UH, WE HAVE SOME YOUNG MARINES THAT ARE GONNA, WE FINALLY GOT SOME, A YOUNG MARINE CHAPTER HAS BEEN STOOD UP BACK IN KAUFMAN.

SO WE HAVE THE YOUNG MARINES BACK INVOLVED IN OUR CEREMONY.

SO REALLY EXCITED.

UH, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA DO SOME THINGS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE PARK THIS YEAR.

WE'VE ALWAYS PUT UP FLAGS, BUT THIS YEAR WE'RE ALSO GONNA PUT THE YELLOW RIBBONS ACROSS ALL THE TREES AND EVERYTHING.

SO REALLY EXCITED AND LOOKING FORWARD TO A NICE CEREMONY THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO OUT THERE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

JUST SORT OF A SIDEBAR.

UH, AND I CAN THINK OF LAST THING, OUR FIRE MARSHALS IN HERE.

DO YOU ANYTHING TO ADD TO THIS CONVERSATION FROM A FIRE MARSHAL STANDPOINT? UM, SO I DID PULL SOME DATA THAT I SENT OUT TO EVERYBODY, AND I'M JUST WANTING TO KIND OF GO OVER THAT AGAIN.

OBVIOUSLY MEMORIAL DAY IS NOT AS MUCH OF A CALL PRODUCER AS A 4TH OF JULY AND NEW YEAR'S.

UH, BUT WE STILL DO HAVE AN INCREASE IN CALLS DURING THOSE TIMES.

YOU SHOOT FIREWORKS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE INJURIES.

YOU'RE GONNA HAVE FIRES, SO DON'T HAVE, OKAY.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, DO YOU HAVE ANY OF THOSE FIGURES WITH YOUR OWN NOW? LIKE THE INCREASED CALLS OR WHATEVER SHARE REAL QUICK.

OKAY.

YOU DON'T LOOK AT IT ON ONE OF THOSE.

THAT'S FINE.

I SHOULD HAVE IT RIGHT HERE.

OKAY.

SO IN 2016, UH, WE WERE GETTING ABOUT 150, UH, FIREWORKS RELATED CALLS.

UH, THAT WAS WHEN WE FIRST STARTED DOING MEMORIAL DAY FIREWORKS SALES, I BELIEVE, UH, SINCE THEN LAST YEAR WE HAD UP TO 361.

SO, UH, MORE THAN DOUBLED THE AMOUNT OF FIREWORKS CALLS, UM, AS FAR AS, UM, COMPARISON TO OTHER HOLIDAYS, MEMORIAL DAY HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE, UH, LOWEST AMOUNT OF FIREWORKS CALLS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF 2020.

WE ACTUALLY HAD MORE, UH, THE NEW YEARS THAT MAY BE WEATHER BASED.

I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT WEATHER CONDITIONS WE HAD DURING THAT TIME, BUT THAT WAS THE ONLY YEAR THAT WAS DIFFERENT.

UM, ALSO DID A COMPARISON OF JUST FIRE CALLS IN GENERAL.

UM, SINCE 2016, UH, MAY

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IT'S NOT THE HIGHEST, IT'S NOT THE LOWEST, BUT IT'S JUST KIND OF MID RANGE.

SO YOU GOT A QUESTIONS? NO.

NO.

OKAY.

I ALSO, WELL, CONSTABLE JOHNSON'S ANYONE TALKING ABOUT IT TOO? OH, OKAY.

THANK YOU, JUDGE.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

UM, WE UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, SMALL BUSINESSES, WE WANT THEM TO THRIVE AND DO WHAT'S RIGHT AND HELP THEMSELVES OUT.

BUT ONE OF THE BIGGER PITCHERS THAT WE DEAL WITH AS A FIRST RESPONDER IS THE FACT OF, I CAN TELL YOU THOSE ARE THE WORST TIMES THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH US FIRST RESPONDERS, UM, ESPECIALLY IN COMMUNITIES THAT ARE OUT OF THE CITY LIMITS, BUT WITHIN THE COUNTY, WHILE THE HOA IS TELL PEOPLE THAT YOU CAN NOT BUY FIREWORKS IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT WE ALREADY KNOW PEOPLE, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.

AND ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT WE DEAL WITH IS THEY POP FIREWORKS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET.

UM, AND WE ALL KNOW WHAT GOES UP, MUST COME DOWN AND I CAN TELL YOU, AND ONE NIGHT WE CAN HAVE ALMOST 200 CALLS THAT HAVE TO DO WITH FIREWORKS.

AND WHEN THEY KNOW THAT THE OFFICERS ARE RESPONDING AND WE'RE TELLING THEM FIREWORKS, YOU'RE ALLOWED TO DO IT IN THE COUNTY.

THEN THEY START CHANGING THE FIREWORK CALLED THE GUNSHOT CALLS.

AND THEN THAT STARTS PULLING MORE OFFICERS OUT TO GO TO LOCATIONS TO TRY TO FIND OUT WHAT IS IT GUNSHOTS, BUT NO, IT WAS ACTUALLY FIREWORKS.

AND SO I THINK IT'S ALREADY, WE HAVE ENOUGH ON OUR PLATE WITH THE JULY 4TH AND NEW YEAR'S EVE HOLIDAYS.

MEMORIAL DAY IS A DAY OF SOMBER REMEMBRANCE.

WE DEFINITELY DO NOT NEED TO.

I KNOW EVERYBODY HAS A RIGHT TO CELEBRATE AND ACCEPT WHAT THEY CHOOSE TO, BUT, UM, THAT IS ANOTHER HEADACHE THAT FIRST RESPONDERS WILL DEFINITELY HAVE TO DEAL WITH BOTH ON THE LAW ENFORCEMENT SIDE AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SIDE.

I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU DO NOT PASS THIS.

OKAY, WELL, THIS IS, IT'S ACTUALLY NOT UP FOR CONSIDERATION TODAY, BUT, UH, TH THIS WAS A PRESENT STARTED OFF AS A PRESENTATION FROM, UH, MS. BULLARD.

UH, OF COURSE TODAY'S JUST THE, WHAT IS TODAY? THE 10TH.

SO, UM, IT, UH, IF A COMMISSIONER WERE SO CHOSE AND COULD COME BACK TO THE, IT COULD COME BACK FOR CONSIDERATION.

ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS BEFORE WE MOVE ON? UH, YOU, ALL I SAY IS, YOU KNOW, FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, YOU KNOW, FROM WHAT I DID FOR 37 YEARS BEING A FIREFIGHTER, IT'S JUST INGRAINED TO YOU THE DANGER OF FIREWORKS.

SO I CAN'T LET THAT GO JUST BECAUSE I DID IT FOR SO LONG.

AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT I DO REMEMBER VIVIDLY.

THAT'S WHAT WE DID.

WE'D SEE WHAT THE FACTS AND FIGURES SAID AFTER WE HAVE SOME YEARS OF DATA TO MAKE A DECISION.

SO, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, I, I SYMPATHIZE WITH WHAT EVERYBODY'S SAYING ABOUT THE MEMORIAL DAY.

AND I SYMPATHIZE A LOT WITH, UH, WHAT THEY'RE SAYING TO RUNNING THEIR BUSINESS, BUT, AND IF I HAD TO PICK A HOLIDAY TO POP FIRECRACKERS MEMORIAL DAY WOULD BE THE ONE OUT OF ALL OF THEM.

CAUSE IT'S DRY TRADITIONALLY ON ALL THE OTHERS.

AND MEMORIAL DAY IS USUALLY GREEN AND WET.

SO IF WE HAD TO PICK ONE MEMORIAL DAY WOULD BE THE ONE, BUT JUST IT'S INGRAINED IN ME OVER AFTER 37 YEARS OF SERVICE, THAT FIREFIGHTERS ARE INHERENTLY DANGEROUS.

AND MY KIDS STILL THINK I WAS A BAD DAD, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE JUST DIDN'T WITH HAYFIELDS AND STUFF AROUND.

WE JUST DID NOT DO MUCH, YOU KNOW, SO AT ALL.

SO, AND WHEN I SEE IT TO ME, ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE MOVE ON? NOPE.

OKAY.

THEN, UH, BACK TO THE MORE MUNDANE COUNTY BUSINESS, UH, WE HAVE NO, NO OFFENSE AGAINST OUR TREASURER, BUT WE HAVE

[4. Chuck Mohnkern; Present/Accept Certificate of Achievement County Investment Academy for AM Karimi.]

IS IT NOT SURE? I LIKE THAT MUNDANE COMMENTS.

OH NO.

I ACTUALLY, I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO GET YOUR REPORT IS WHAT I, THEN I READ THE TASK, SO.

OKAY.

WELL THAT MAKES IT A LOT BETTER THEN.

YES, IT DOES.

WELL JUDGE AND THE COMMISSIONERS, I JUST WANTED TO RECOGNIZE ALI CARE ME.

HE ATTENDED THE, UH, UH, TRAINING, UH, AT THE, UH, INVESTMENT ACADEMY.

AND, UH, THERE'S TWO PARTS TO THAT.

ONE OF THEM IS JUST TO GET A PFIC CERTIFICATION.

THE OTHER ACTUALLY GOES IN DEEPER INTO DIFFERENT TYPES OF INVESTMENTS, UM, INVESTMENT ACCOUNTING, INVESTMENT MATH, AND ALI CAME BACK PAST HIS, UH, TWO EXAMS WITH A BETTER THAN 80%, WHICH IS WE'LL ACTUALLY GET HIM INTO THE INVESTMENT ACADEMY, MAGE ACADEMY, UH, WHICH IS THE, UH, PREMIER INVESTMENT OFFICERS, UH, CERTIFICATION.

AND I WOULD JUST

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WHERE IS HE? WILL I WANT YOU TO COME UP THERE? HE'S BACK THERE.

CAN WE TAKE A PICTURE? WHY NOT? RIGHT.

YEAH.

AND BY LIKES EVERYBODY LIKES PICTURES.

YES.

RIGHT.

PITCHER BUCKS.

RIGHT? GET ON THIS SIDE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

LET ME, WILL YOU HOLD THE CERTIFICATE FOR HIS SMILE THOUGH? MISS THERE'S BARELY HAIR ALL THE WAY BACK THERE.

CAN WE SIT BACK LITTLE BIT? I DON'T WANT THEM TO FEEL OKAY.

NOW I CAN SEE COMMISSIONER.

OH, PERFECT.

CONGRATULATE.

WE'RE LUCKY TO HAVE YOU.

I'M HONORED FOR 38 YEARS.

I'M NOT, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, I APOLOGIZE AGAIN FOR MY MONDAY AND COMMENT ALL THE LOT BANK, ALL THE COMMISSIONERS WOULD AGREE THAT HEARING, UH, TREASURY REPORTS ARE NOT TREMENDOUSLY EXCITING.

OKAY.

NEXT UP THE TAX OFFICE COULD DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING DEPUTIZATION OF AMBER MULLINS, CASSIDY GUERRERO, VICTORIA, ALISON KIMBERLY MCCOLLUM AND VICTORIA ARAGON FOR THE OFFICE OF THE KAUFMAN COUNTY TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR.

AND WHO'S PRESENTING ON THAT.

WELL, I GUESS WE'LL JUST PASS THAT ITEM.

NO MOTION HAS COME IN ABOUT THAT.

SO NEXT UP KRISTY DICKEY,

[6. Kristi Dickey; Discuss/Consider motion to Approve Everett Estates Located on CR 255 in PCT 3]

DISCUSS, CONSIDER MOTION TO APPROVE EVERETT ESTATES LOCATED ON COUNTY ROAD 2 55 IN PRECINCT THREE.

GOOD MORNING.

THIS IS ACTUALLY A FINAL PLAT.

UM, ON EVERETT ESTATES IS LOCATED ON 2 55 AND PRECINCT THREE.

IT'S GOING TO BE, UM, FOUR OR FIVE ACRE, LOTS FOR SINGLE FAMILY SITE-BUILT HOMES.

UM, ALL APPROVING AUTHORITIES HAVE GONE OVER THE PACKET AND HAVE APPROVED.

AND SO WE'RE ASKING COMMISSIONER'S COURT FOR THEIR APPROVAL TODAY.

QUESTIONS.

NO, UH, IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE EVERETT ESTATES LOCATED ON COUNTY ROAD 2 55? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO BE THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER BARBERS OR A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND SEGREGATE COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES NEXT UP.

SHERIFF BEAVERS

[7. Sheriff Beavers; Sheriff's Office update on County Law Enforcement. ]

HERE THEY COME.

I WANT TO KNOW WHO'S DONE MY SHOPS RIGHT NOW.

WHERE'S EVERYBODY IT'S NOT AN ASSAULT.

IS IT THE OLD? I DIDN'T SAY NO.

NO, I DIDN'T SAY DOLL.

I DIDN'T SAY DOLL.

WELL, UH, COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS FOR A WHILE ABOUT LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND I WILL TELL YOU AS OF TODAY, UH, YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN SOMETHING WE AIN'T SEEN IN YEARS WHEN YOU GET ALL THE LAW ENFORCEMENT SITTING IN ONE ROOM AND WORKING TOGETHER.

WE'RE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE, ESPECIALLY AS ELECTED OFFICIALS OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR COUNTY AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO AS LAW ENFORCEMENT TO HELP ALONE.

SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS BUILT A POWERPOINT, TALKING ABOUT EVERYTHING, ALL OUR CONCERNS AND WANT TO GET PREPARED FOR THE BUDGET TIME, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY ASKS FOR IS WANTING US TO GET AHEAD OF THE GAME, TELL Y'ALL WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE AND THE PROBLEMS WE'RE HAVING IN THE COUNTY.

SO WE'RE GOING TO KICK THAT OFF.

AND ALL OF US GOT A LITTLE POT IN THIS POWERPOINT TO RUN THROUGH THERE AND WE'LL TRY TO GET TO IT JUST AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN, IF WE CAN JUST MAKE STUFF, WORK TECHNOLOGY.

AIN'T IT GREAT WHEN IT WORKS? IT IS.

YEAH, THERE WE GO.

SO, SO AS YOU KNOW, WE, UH, THE COUNTY, WE KNOW IT'S 808 SQUARE MILES RIGHT NOW, THE POPULATION SITE 143, WE ALL BELIEVE IT'S ABOUT 1 60, 1 65, UH, WITH EVERYTHING IS GOING.

AND IF YOU NOTICE THROUGHOUT THE CALLS FOR SERVICE, WHAT YOU SEE, UH, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, UH, HANDLED THE MAJORITY OF THE, THE CALLS.

UH, WE, WE HAVE

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I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S NOT SHOWING.

THEN IT WENT BACK.

WELL, THAT'S WHAT I JUST DID.

WELL, YO, BUT BECAUSE YOU'RE AT THE MALL, EVERYTHING I'LL WATCH WORKS BETTER ATTACH, BUT ANYHOW, WE COVER ABOUT 60.

WHAT IS IT? 49%.

YES, SIR.

IT'S 49.

WE'RE COUNTING 49%, WHICH ALSO COVERS, UH, WHICH ALSO HAVE THAT FOR YOU.

WE COVER 731 SQUARE MILES OF 8 0 8 AND WE'RE COVERING 91%, UH, OF THE COUNTY AT 35,000 CALLS FOR SERVICE COMPARED TO ANYBODY ELSE THAT WE'VE GOT.

UH, SO THEN YOU SEE THAT WE'RE COVERING ABOUT 70,000, WHICH IS 49%.

SO THAT GIVES YOU A ROUGH ESTIMATE.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE WHERE TERRELL WAS ONLY 27.3.

AND IT'S ONLY 19,040, WHICH IS OTHER TWO BIG, UH, CITIES THAT ARE ONLY 14 SQUARE MILES, ALMOST 15.

AND THEY'RE ONLY DOING 18,000.

SO WE'RE DOING QUITE A BIT OF CALLS FOR SERVICE.

UH, THE OTHER ASPECT OF THAT IS WE'RE LOSING PEOPLE TO THEM AND PLUS CRANDALL, THEY HAD THE HEARTLAND CONTRACT.

WHAT'S WHY YOU SEE THEIR NUMBERS IS UP A LITTLE BIT.

THAT'S WHY I PUT AN ASTERISK AROUND IT THAT ADDED ANOTHER 3.1 SQUARE MILES.

BUT THAT'S WHY THEY'RE CALLED VOLUMES UP.

LET ME ASK YOU A REAL QUICK QUESTION.

THIS, THIS LIKE, UH, THE CALLS FOR SERVICE FOR THE CDS THAT ARE SELF DISPATCHING, DOES IT, DOES THAT, DOES THAT INCLUDE THEIR DISPATCHES? THAT IS THEIR DISPATCH NUMBERS WHEN YOU GOT IT FROM THE, AND THESE ARE, THESE ARE TRULY CALLED FOR NUMBERS.

THESE ARE NOT TRAFFIC STOPS.

THESE ARE TRULY CALLS.

THIS IS NOT SELF-INITIATED.

THESE ARE CALLS FOR SERVICE.

OKAY, GOT YOU.

I WANTED TO BREAK THAT DOWN TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE HAVING TO DO RIGHT FOR CALLS.

SO THE BIG THING YOU GET TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE 101, UH, EMPLOYEES AS A FIVE, SIX, WE HAVE EIGHT OPENINGS, UH, ON THE STREET OR, UH, SAY THAT EIGHT OPENINGS.

TWO OF THEM ARE TRANSPORT THE REST OF MY OWN STREET, BUT I'LL TELL YOU AS OF TODAY, I THINK I'VE HAD ONE RESIGN.

I'M NOT GETTING OUT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT DISTRESS.

AND I HAVE THREE MORE THAT SUPPOSEDLY JUST GOT THEIR LETTERS FROM FARNEY THAT ARE FIXING TO GO TO FORNEY AND LEAVE THE STREET, UH, AND GO OVER THERE.

SO WE'RE FIXING TO HAVE A FEW MORE OPENING.

SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 12 MORE OPENNESS DETENTION.

YOU KNOW, WE GOT 129 RIGHT NOW, I'VE GOT 21 OPENS AND SOME OF THOSE ARE LEAVING FEW FOR OTHER JAILS, BUT MOST OF THEM ARE PRIVATE SECTOR MAKING MORE MONEY WHEN YOU GET IN THE 9 1 1, AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE HADN'T SEEN IN A WHILE.

UH, WE HAVE SEVEN OPENINGS AS WE SPEAK.

WE'VE GOT 31 EMPLOYEES OVER THERE AND THEY'RE LEAVING, GOING TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR BECAUSE THEY CAN WORK FROM HOME AND MAKE MORE MONEY.

AND WE PUT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT IN THESE PEOPLE.

AND I'VE GOT THAT BROKE DOWN A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT TELLS YOU THE OPENINGS FOR GUY.

WHEN YOU GET TO CONSTABLE'S OFFICE, YOU KNOW, UH, CONSTABLE PRECINCT ONE, TWO AND FOUR, THEY HAVE A CONSTABLE ON THREE DEPUTIES AND ONE ADMIN, WHICH IS A TOTAL OF FIVE.

THEN WHEN YOU COME TO CONSTABLE PRECINCT THREE, YOU GOT A CONSTABLE IN FORT DEPUTIES, WHICH IS ALSO A TOTAL OF FIVE.

THEN YOU'VE GOT THE DA'S OFFICE WHO HAS A CHIEF INVESTIGATOR AND SIX INVESTIGATORS, WHICH IS A TOTAL OF SEVEN FOR THEM.

SO THAT KIND OF GIVES YOU A BREAKDOWN, THE LAW ENFORCEMENT, TOTALLY THROUGH THE DEAL TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE CALLS THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH THE COUNTY IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, IF YOU'LL NOTICE IN, UH, ALL THE WAY TO NOW, UH, HOW MUCH OF THE CALLS THE INCIDENT REPORTS IS WENT UP BY 40%.

INVESTIGATIONS ARE ALREADY UP BY 38% ARREST ARE UP BY 45%.

UH, OUR SECURITY CHECKS.

I, THE ONLY REASON I PUT THIS, ANY OF THIS TELLS YOU HOW DEDICATED SOME OF OUR EMPLOYEES ARE STAYING HERE.

WE'RE ABOUT 128 CENT CALLS ARE ALL UP, BUT THEY'RE STILL TRYING TO GET THESE SECURITY CHECKS AND DOING THINGS.

AND, UH, THE 9 1, 1 CALLS YOU CAN SEE IT'S ALREADY UP BY 61%.

AND THEN THE CALLS FOR SERVICE.

YOU SAY 114.

THE ONE THING I WILL TELL YOU IS THE CONSTABLE SETTING BEHIND ME.

IF IT WASN'T FOR THEM RIGHT NOW, WE'D BE SINKING AS THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE BECAUSE THEY HELPED US SO MUCH ON SO MANY CALLS, UH, THAT WE'RE JUST NOT ABLE TO MAKE IT OR BACK US UP.

UH, OR I'VE GOT A DEPUTY COME FROM THE SOUTH END, UH, TRYING TO GET TO THE NORTH END.

AND LUCKILY WE GOT THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE AND THEIR DEPUTIES THAT ARE HELPING US TREMENDOUSLY TO HELP US THROUGH THIS CALL.

VOLUME IS SO HIGH AND ME BEING SOME SHARP.

SO I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO PRECINCT ONE COP WHEN HE DON'T TALK ABOUT HIS NUMBERS, TELL YOU ABOUT YOURSELF.

UH, BASICALLY WHAT I PROVIDED THE SHERIFF, UH, WAS THE LAST, THIS CURRENT YEAR AND LAST YEAR, BECAUSE BEFORE 2020, IT WAS STILL JUST MYSELF AND ONE DEPUTY.

UH, SO WE JUST DID NOT HAVE THE TIME NOR THE RESOURCES TO LOG OUR DAILY ACTIVITIES.

UH, BUT STARTED

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AND OF COURSE THAT WAS ALSO SOME TIME COMING OUT OF CORONA GEDEN.

SO IT REFLECTS ALL THE NUMBERS AT THE BOTTOM ON THE LEFT COLUMN OF 1,982, WHICH IS CALLS FOR SERVICE ALL THE WAY UP TO COURT HOURS AND PAPERS ATTEMPTED TRAFFIC STOPS SUCH AS THAT, UH, THIS YEAR FROM OCTOBER OF THIS LAST YEAR, UP TO CURRENT, IS IT 1957? SO YOU CAN SEE WE'RE ALMOST PAST WHAT WE DID IN A SOLID YEAR, LAST YEAR.

AND, UH, THIS IS WITH TAKING ON ALL THE NEW TERRITORY OVER, AROUND 40 AND TO OUT THE AREA.

SO IT'S, IT'S REALLY GOT A STRETCH THEN.

OKAY.

SAME THING FOR PRECINCT TWO.

UM, IF YOU LOOK DOWN ON THE BOTTOM, WE WENT, WE WERE ABLE TO GO BACK TO 2019.

UM, WE HAD A COUPLE MORE YEARS WE CAN ADD INTO, BUT YOU CAN SEE JUST FROM THE CALLS FOR SERVICE IN 2019 WAS ALMOST 11,500.

UM, UP TODAY, WE'RE AT 5,500.

THAT IS GOING TO TOPPLE THAT JUST IN 2019, WHEN WE HAVE GROWTH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE CRIME.

UM, OUR PIPER SERVED AS WELL AS CONSTABLE MAYFIELD, JUST IN THIS QUARTER ALONE, WE'RE ALREADY IN 167.

UM, TRAFFIC STOPS OUR ARREST.

THE CASES FILED OUT OF ALL OF OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE THAT WE RECEIVE FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

UM, REPORTS TAKEN, WE'VE TAKEN 431 REPORTS JUST OUT OF THE CALL TO SERVICE THAT WE'VE RECEIVED SO FAR.

UM, THAT'S NOT EVEN INCLUDING THE CASES THAT WE HAVE FILED, UM, 53.

SO, I MEAN, IT'S, WE'RE GROWING, UH, YOUR, YOUR NUMBERS FOR 2020 OR THROUGH MARCH DOES THAT RIGHT THERE UP TO DATE YEAR TO DATE.

OKAY.

HERE TODAY.

SO MINE'S GOING TO, MINE'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

SO I, I HAVE THE SAME STATS THAT, THAT THEY DO.

THE PROBLEM WITH MINE IS THEY WEREN'T KEPT UNTIL ABOUT MARCH OF 21.

UH, NO STATS, PREVIOUS ADMIN KIPP, ANYTHING.

SO THESE FIGURES YOU'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT HERE ARE, UH, PAPERS ENTERED BY THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE.

SO THAT WAS A PAPER IN THEIR HAND ENTERED IN THE COMPUTER.

SO JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON PAPERS.

IF AN EVICTION PAPER IS THREE ATTEMPTS, SO THAT'S MAYBE TWO IN PERSON AND THE ALTERNATE SERVICE, WHICH IS BY MAIL THAT'S.

IF THERE'S NOT A MOVE OUT, IF THERE'S A MOVE OUT, IT COULD BE SEVEN.

ONCE YOU HANG ALL THE HANGERS.

SO ALL THESE NUMBERS ARE THE PAPER THAT WE RECEIVED TIMES, UH, THREE, UH, YOUR TAX PAPER, YOUR DIVORCE PAPER, ALL THAT, THAT'S A MINIMUM FIVE ATTEMPTS.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE AVERAGING RIGHT THERE.

SO YOU CAN SEE PROJECTED, UH, FOR 20, 22 IS GOING TO BE AT 44%.

I THINK WE ALL SIT IN HERE, KNOW WHY, UH, AFTER THE CENSUS AND A LOT OF THAT'S BECAUSE OF WINDMILL FARMS. UM, IF YOU, IF YOU TAKE OUR TOTAL CALL FOR SERVICE AND, UH, 21 IS, UH, FORTY TWO HUNDRED AND SIXTY FOUR, UH, PROJECTED IS GOING TO BE, UH, ABOUT 61 40, IF YOU GO WITH THAT 44%.

SO EVERY NUMBER THAT WE HAVE THAT WE KEEP, WHETHER IT'S PAPER, SERVICE, SECURITY CHECKS, SCHOOLS ON EXPERT TROLLS, UM, I HAVE ONE NUMBER THAT IS, IS KIND OF SAD, BUT IT QUADRUPLED FOR 22 AND THAT'S THE MOVE OUTS.

THAT'S THE PEOPLE THAT WERE ACTUALLY TAKING THEIR STUFF AND MOVING IT ON THE CURB.

UH THAT'S UH, THAT QUADRUPLED THAT NUMBER.

IF WE STAY ON THE, WHERE WE'RE PROJECTED RIGHT NOW, WE'LL MOVE OUT 96 PEOPLE, 96 RESIDENCES.

UM, SO THAT, THAT NUMBERS, UM, IT TAKES A LOT OF MAN HOURS.

UH, DON'T SAY MENTIONED MINSON HOW LONG IT TAKES FOR A MOVE OUT.

MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW HOW LONG, UM, IF THEY WON'T ANSWER THE DOOR AFTER TWO ATTEMPTS, SOMETIMES THREE, WE HAVE TO DO ALTERNATIVE SERVICE.

WE HAVE TO MAIL IT.

THEN WE HAVE TO DO A DOOR HANGER AND THEN 24 HOUR NOTICE THAT WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THEM OUT.

AND THEN WHEN WE ARRIVE ON SCENE TO MOVE THEM OUT, EVERYTHING THAT BELONGS TO THEM HAS TO BE OUT OF THAT HOUSE BEFORE THE EVICTION IS FINAL.

IF ONE ITEM OF THEIRS IS LEFT IN THAT HOUSE, THEY'RE NOT CONSIDERED A EVICTED AND ALL THAT STUFF HAS TO BE PUT ON THE CURB.

UH, AT, AT THE OWNER'S EXPENSE, WE HAVE TO TOW CARS.

IF THERE'S 18 WHEELERS, IF THERE'S PORTABLE BUILDINGS, THEY ALL HAVE TO BE MOVED.

AND, UH, UH, WE REQUIRE TWO DEPUTIES TO START.

IF IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING, THEN IT MAY BE ALL FIVE OF US.

UM, THEY'RE THERE, IF WE HAVE A, UH, A WRIT OF EXECUTION WHERE WE HAVE TO LEVY ON SOMETHING THAT TAKES, WE HAVE 90 DAYS TO DO THAT, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GOING TO THEIR HOUSE, SEIZING THEIR PROPERTY, UH, UH, TAKING IT TO THE COURTHOUSE,

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SO THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF MAN HOURS.

I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST DON'T KNOW THAT GOES ON.

UM, IN THESE FOUR OFFICES.

UH, I DID, I SURELY DIDN'T KNOW IT, MATT, ALSO, UH, IF YOU DO HAVE TO DO A MOVE OUT, I MEAN, HOW MANY YOU SAY YOU HAVE TWO OFFICERS THAT MAY TAKE OFF FIVE YEARS? HOW LONG WERE YOU USUALLY THERE ON THAT DAY TO DO THAT? OH YEAH.

THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET.

THE BRIDGE IS GOING TO BE ABOUT FIVE HOURS.

IT'S FIVE HOURS.

SO YOU ARE COMPLETELY OUT OF SERVICE DURING THAT TIME.

YOU CAN'T, WE'VE HAD ONE THAT WAS 14 HOURS.

YEAH.

YEAH.

IT IS.

FORTUNATELY YOU HAVE TO STAY THERE.

YEAH.

AND WE, WE HAVE HAD SOME, UH, THAT, UH, WE'VE HAD GANG MEMBERS SHOW UP TO WHERE WE'VE HAD TO CALL TERRELL AND GET THEM TO JUST SURROUND THE WHOLE PLACE JUST SO WE CAN MOVE OUT.

UM, THEY FIGHT IN THE STREET.

I MEAN, IT'S VERY EMOTIONAL.

UH, FIRST WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO TAKE SOMEBODY'S KIDS AND WE GET THOSE PAPERS TOO, AND SECOND IF YOU'RE KICKING THEM OUT OF THEIR HOUSE.

SO IT'S, IT'S A VERY EMOTIONAL, SO, UH, WE'D HAVE TO USE A LOT MORE VERBAL SKILLS THAN WE DO PHYSICAL SKILLS TO, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, THE ACTUAL OWNERS OF THESE PROPERTIES.

UH, I SAY MOST OF THESE ARE RENTALS THAT EVICT THE OWNERS OF THESE PROPERTIES, ARE THEY HAVING TO PAY FOR Y'ALL SERVICES TO DO THIS? WE CAN CHARGE AFTER, UH, AFTER, UH, TWO HOURS, WE CAN CHARGE $50 PER DEPUTY.

OKAY.

UM, I Y'ALL CAN SPEAK, I VERY RARELY DO IT BECAUSE IF WE'RE THERE THAT LONG, YOU KNOW, THE, THESE PEOPLE MAKE A LIVE INTO, AND, AND I SUPPOSE ABOUT HOW DIFFICULT IS IT TO COLLECT THAT MONEY? YEAH.

IT'S BASICALLY LIKE A JUDGMENT.

IT'S VERY NEW.

WE INFORMED THEM OF THAT AT THE BEGINNING.

LET THEM KNOW.

THAT'S WHY THEY SHOW UP WITH AS MANY MOVERS AS POSSIBLE.

UM, BUT YOU GOT TO REMEMBER, THEY'VE HAD SOMEBODY RESIDING IN THEIR PROPERTY FOR MONTHS ON END, PROBABLY NOT PAYING ANYTHING.

ANYWAY, THEY'VE HAD TO FIGHT FOR THE EVICTION PROCEEDINGS AND THE REST.

AND SO THAT'S MORE MONEY OUT OF THEIR POCKET.

GRANTED, WE'RE DOING A SERVICE FOR THEM AND WE HATE TO HIT THEM WITH THE BILL, BUT IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO PLAY IT AND WE FEEL BAD ABOUT IT, BUT HAVING TO COUGH UP ANOTHER 400, $500, DEPENDING ON HOW LONG WERE THE AREA, AND THEY'RE ALREADY TWO OR 300 INTO IT, BY THE TIME WE STARTED TO PAY THEM TWO OR THREE MONTHS, THEY DIDN'T COLLECT A LOT OF THEM.

THERE'S NOTHING TO HAVE $10,000, HIS LANDLORDS.

SO.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

YEAH, I DIDN'T GET YOUR NAME AND THAT'S, THAT'S MY BATH BEEN BUSY, BUT TALK ABOUT YOUR NUMBER OR GET ME AT THE END.

OKAY.

AN NASA WITH OUR NUMBERS.

WHEN I TOOK OFFICE, I'M KIND OF LIKE MATT, WE DIDN'T KEEP TRACK FROM THE PREVIOUS YEARS, WE'VE GONE UP FROM 1,009 TO 1,050.

THAT'S A 4.6 INCREASE FROM JUST FOUR MONTHS AGO ON OUR PAPERS.

SO THE COURT HOURS, THE MENTAL COMMITS AND THE ON-DUTY ARREST AGENCY ASSIST EVERYTHING HAS GONE UP ON THE CALLS.

AND THEN WE'RE GETTING MORE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS, MORE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS.

YOU HAVE MORE PEOPLE, YOU HAVE MORE PAPERS YOU HAVE POSSIBLY HOPEFULLY NOT MORE CRIME.

SO WHITE MAN.

THANK YOU.

I THINK THE BIG THING THAT WE'RE SAYING IS WE ALL KNOW IT WITH MORE PEOPLE.

THERE IS MORE CRIME.

I HATE TO SAY IT, IT IS WHAT IT IS.

YOU CAN LOOK AT ANY STATISTICS ANYWHERE.

UH, SHE'S GETTING HER NUMBERS.

AND I APOLOGIZE TO THE DA FOR THAT, THAT THAT'S, THAT'S MY BIAS, BUT WE WON'T INCLUDE HER IN THIS.

SO KIND OF GIVE YOU A BREAKDOWN.

THIS, THIS IS THE BIG THING I THINK PEOPLE REALLY WANT TO SEE IS WHAT IT TAKES TO GET A DEPUTY, UH, FOR ANY OF US TO TRAINING.

CAUSE I THINK WE'RE PRETTY WELL FOLLOW ALL THE SAME INFORMATION AND WHAT WE DO.

WE DID A FOUR WEEK MINI ACADEMY, WHICH 160 HOURS, UH, THE FTO, WHICH IS 16 WEEKS.

AND THEN THE FEW MANDATE CLASS I GOT IT.

WE, WE PUT 956 HOURS, UH, WHEN WE RECRUIT FOR WE'D GET THEM ON THE STREET BY HERSELF WHERE THEY CAN MAKE A CALL ABOUT HERSELF.

SO IF YOU TAKE THAT WITH THEIR FTO, IT'S COST AND THEIR EQUIPMENT IS COSTING US 49,000 530, 6 93 TO TRAIN A DEPUTY TO TURN THEM LOOSE ON THE STREET TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS.

I AM BRIAN, CAN I INTERRUPT YOU FOR SALE, SIR? NOW THIS, THIS MINI ACADEMY, THE PEOPLE YOU HIRE ARE ALREADY CERTIFIED, RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT.

IT'S NO, IT'S NOT.

THIS IS, THIS IS YES, THIS OVER AND ABOVE BEING HIRED.

EXACTLY.

AND BEFORE THEY FTL, WE WANT EVERYBODY KNOW HOW WE DO.

OUR FELONY STOPS, HOW WE DO OUR POLICIES AND HOW EVERYTHING IS BECAUSE WHEN THEY'RE OUT THERE AND FTL PROGRAM AND WE HAVE A FELONY STOP GOING, WE WANT THEM TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE EXPECTED TO DO.

SO THAT'S WHY WE DO THAT EXTRA FOUR WEEKS.

UH, SO YOU SEE THAT AND IF YOU

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YES.

AND THEN, SO LET'S AVERAGE ABOUT SIX CAUSE WE'RE LOSING ABOUT 297,000 EVERY YEAR AND JUST TRAINING THEM, WALKING OUT THE DOOR.

SO WHEN YOU GET TO THE DETENTION, THIS IS THE BIG THING THAT IS REALLY UPSETTING.

WE PUT LESS MONEY IN THE TRAIN CAUSE IT DON'T TAKE NEAR AS MUCH TO TRAIN THEM, UH, STILL FIVE WEEKS AND THEN THE CORRECTION, UH, AND THEN THE MANDATES IS 394 HOURS.

IF YOU AVERAGE THAT OUT WHERE IT'S COSTING US RIGHT AT 17,000 A YEAR TO TRAIN THAT.

BUT IF YOU NOTICE IN THREE YEARS, WE'VE LOST 101 EMPLOYEES OUT OF THERE.

I ONLY HAVE 129.

SO THAT TELLS YOU WHAT THE TURNOVER RATE IS.

IT'S NOT GOOD.

SO THAT'S 1.6, ALMOST 1.7.

SO WE'RE AVERAGING ABOUT 33.6 TENSION LEAVING EVERY YEAR, WHICH IS 5,600.

SO THEN WHEN YOU COME COMMUNICATIONS, THIS IS WHERE WE SPEND A LOT OF MONEY.

ALSO THE TRAINING FOR THEM IS 24 WEEKS, TWO WEEKS WITH GETTING THEIR CERTIFICATION THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE.

NOW THE 9 1, 1 POSITION, TLS INLETS, UH, IT'S COSTING US ABOUT 40,800, UH, TO TRAIN THAT EMPLOY.

UH, WE'VE HAD EIGHT LEAF, UH, IN THREE YEARS.

SO WE'RE DOING 2.6, BUT THAT'S STILL A HUNDRED NIGHT.

IT'S WALKING OUT THE DOOR.

AND AS I SAY, THEY'RE GOING TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

MOST OF THEM AT THIS POINT, UH, BECAUSE THEY CAN WORK FROM HOME AND MY SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY.

SO THIS KIND OF GIVES YOU A ROUGH COST JUST AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING IS YOU CAN SEE OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS IS 2.8 MILLION AND WE'RE AVERAGE ABOUT 900 OVER $970,000 A YEAR, WALKING OUT AND TRAINING, UH, GIVE AND TAKE A FEW.

I WILL GIVE YOU AS FAR AS THE ATTENTION SIDE, YOU PROBABLY GIVE OR TAKE PROBABLY 10 OR SO.

THAT PROBABLY STARTED A MONTH BEFORE THEY GOT EVERYTHING DONE.

AND THEY JUST WALKED OUT BECAUSE THEY DECIDED THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT JOB.

AND WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN WHEN WE TALK TO THEM AND INTERVIEW THEM AND SHOW THEM WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING.

AND EVERYTHING'S GREAT UNTIL THEY GET BACK THERE AND THE DOOR SHUTS BEHIND THEM AND THEY GOTTA BE IN THERE 11 AND A HALF HOURS.

AND I'LL TELL YOU SOME OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT I'M HEARING IS THE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES THAT WE'RE HAVING TO DEAL BACK.

THEY'RE HAVING TO BAIT PEOPLE, GET STUFF THROWN ON AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

IT'S THE HARDEST JOB THEY GOT.

SOME PEOPLE SAYS DON'T PAY ENOUGH IN JUST A MENTAL ASPECT OF IT.

HE'S TOUGH ON THEM.

SO THAT'S SOME OF THE PROBLEMS WE'RE SEEING IN THE JAIL.

I DID GO TO TAC.

IF YOU LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS, THIS IS TACK SENT ME THE LIST.

I ASKED TAX TO GIVE ME THE ONES THAT ARE CLOSEST TO US, UH, IN SIZE AND EVERYTHING.

AND WHICH I THINK SOME OF IT'S LIKE PUT SOME PEOPLE AT 60,000.

I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR AS POPULATION IN 50,000.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY GOT IN THERE, BUT I WENT AHEAD AND PUT THEM ALL IN THERE.

AND IF YOU SEE GRAYSON COUNTY IS PROBABLY THE CLOSEST, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THEIR, THEIR PAY IS.