May 24, 2022 Commissioners Court

NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES

[3. John Manning; Discuss/Consider/Approve the Audit for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2021 as presented by John Manning with Pattillo, Brown and Hill, LLC.]

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ITEM THREE, JOHN MANNING DISCUSSED CONSIDER FOR APPROVAL.

THE AUDIT FOR FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2021 IS PRESENTED BY JOHN MANNING WITH PATILLO BROWN AND HILL LLC.

JUDGE THE COMMISSIONERS.

THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BE HERE.

WE ACTUALLY GET CONFIRMATION, SEND THEM TO THIRD PARTIES, AND THEY VERIFY THAT THOSE FUNDS ARE HERE.

I THINK Y'ALL HAVE HAD A COPY OF THE REPORT IN YOUR PACKETS.

UM, AND SO WE'RE HERE TO PRESENT THE RESULTS OF THE SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2021 REPORT.

AND I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO START WITH THE FINANCIALS AND JUST KIND OF GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF OF THE YEAR.

UM, IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE ONE, THIS IS OUR AUDIT OPINION, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO.

THE FINANCIALS, THE DISCLOSURES OF THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE COUNTY, OUR RESPONSIBILITIES TO EXPRESS AN OPINION AS TO WHETHER THOSE AMOUNTS ARE MATERIALLY CORRECT AND APPLICABLE UNDER GOVERNMENT AUDITING STANDARDS.

AND THAT'S WHAT THIS REPORT IS SAYING.

IT'S AN UNMODIFIED REPORT, MEANING WE DID NOT HAVE TO MODIFY OUR REPORT FOR OMISSIONS OR INTERNAL CONTROL WEAKNESSES THAT THE COUNTY HAS.

SO OF THE FOUR TYPES OF OPINIONS THAT WE CAN GIVE THE UNMODIFIED IS LIKE THE A OR THE, THE, THE BEST OPINION THAT WE CAN OFFER.

SO, UM, WE WORK WITH THE COUNTY AUDITOR'S OFFICE A LOT, BUT THEY ARE A KEY PART OF THIS, BUT THIS HAVING AN OPINION LIKE THIS IS COUNTY WIDE, IT'S ALL DEPARTMENTS WORKING TOGETHER, KEEPING INTERNAL CONTROLS, INTACT TACT, AND STAYING WITHIN BUDGET, DOING A LOT OF THINGS THAT RENDER, UH, US BEING ABLE TO DO THIS OPINION, UM, HAPPEN.

IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE THREE, THIS IS A MANAGEMENT DISCUSSION AND ANALYSIS AND WHAT THIS IS, IS KIND OF A WORD FORM OF WHAT HAPPENED DURING THE YEAR.

A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T LOOK AT REPORTS LIKE KAREN AND I DO ALL DAY AND JUST LOOK AT FINANCIALS AND BE ABLE TO JUST LOOK AT THEM AND UNDERSTAND THEM.

SO A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE REFER TO THE, AND A, AS IT GOES THROUGH AND KIND OF NARRATIVELY GOES THROUGH, UH, WHAT HAPPENED DURING THE YEAR.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE FIVE, UM, ONE THING THAT I DO LIKE ABOUT THIS, AS YOU CAN SEE THIS YEAR VERSUS LAST YEAR, AND KIND OF LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED DURING THE YEAR, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT YOUR CURRENT ASSETS WENT UP A LOT.

UM, THAT WAS TWO FOLD.

YOU HAVE ISSUED TWO SETS OF BONDS DURING THE YEAR.

SO A LOT OF THAT MONEY IS STILL SITTING THERE AS PROJECTS COME DUE.

SO THAT WAS AN INCREASE IN CASH.

YOU ALSO HAVE ABOUT $13 MILLION OF RPA MONEY THAT, THAT AS OF SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2001 WAS GIVEN TO THE COUNTY, BUT WON'T BE SPENT UNTIL FYI 22.

SO THOSE TWO THINGS WERE LARGE INCREASE THERE.

YOU CAN SEE, AGAIN, AS WE'VE LOOKED AT OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT CAPITAL ASSET NUMBER CONTINUES TO GROW WITH ALL OF THE PROJECTS THAT, THAT THE COUNTY IS INVOLVED WITH.

THE DEBT THAT'S BEEN ISSUED ARE TURNING INTO PROJECTS.

AND THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THAT CAPITAL ASSET NUMBER GOING UP.

UM, IN ADDITION, YOU SEE THE LONGTERM LIABILITIES GOING UP AS WELL.

UM, REMEMBER PART OF THAT'S THE PENSION LIABILITY, WHICH I'LL GO OVER IN A LITTLE BIT.

THE OTHER PART IS TO CONTINUE TO INCREASE IN BONDS FOR THE ROAD PROJECTS THAT YOU GUYS, UH, HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH SIMILAR ON PAGE FIVE, IF YOU CAN LOOK, UH, PROPERTY TAX REVENUE UP.

A LOT OF THAT, JUST WITH THE INCREASE IN ASSESSED VALUES, UM, AND CHARGES FOR SERVICES, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS ARE STARTING TO COME BACK AFTER THOSE THINGS HAD WENT DOWN WITH COVID AND CASES NOT GETTING FILED IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON THERE.

THOSE NUMBERS ARE STARTING TO COME BACK UP.

GRANTS WENT DOWN BECAUSE IN 20, WE HAD A LOT OF THE, UH, FIRST ROUND OF CRF MONEY THAT WAS SPENT.

AND THIS YEAR WE'RE WAITING FOR THE RPA TO BE SPENT 22.

SO THAT NUMBER DECREASED AND, UH, EXPENSES WERE ABOUT THE SAME AS THEY WERE LAST YEAR.

AND NET POSITION WENT UP ABOUT 1.5 MILLION AS OPPOSED TO GOING DOWN IN PREVIOUS YEAR.

SO A LOT OF GOOD THINGS GOING ON THERE, UM, IN THE FINANCIAL STATEMENT.

SO IF YOU LOOK OVER ON PAGE 11 AND 12, THIS IS THE MORE FAMILIAR WAY TO LOOK AT FINANCIALS.

WHEN YOU GUYS DO BUDGETS AND LOOK AT FINANCIAL INFORMATION, IT'S MORE ON THE FUN LEVEL AS OPPOSED TO THE GOVERNMENT WIDE.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE GOT HERE.

UM, YOU GUYS CURRENTLY HAVE FIVE FUNDS THAT MEET THE MAJOR FUND CRITERIA, MEANING THEY HAVE TO BE SHOWN SEPARATELY, OBVIOUSLY YOUR GENERAL AND ROAD AND BRIDGE DEBT, SERVICE, CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.

AND THEN THIS YEAR WE ADDED A NEW ONE FOR THE HRPA, AS THERE'S A LITTLE OVER $13 MILLION AS OF SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2021, THAT'S SITTING THERE WAITING TO BE SPENT IN 2022 AND IN SUBSEQUENT YEARS AFTER THAT.

SO REALLY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOK AT WHEN WE, WHEN WE GO THROUGH HERE IS AS YOU LOOK OVER ON PAGE 12, IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOTALS, MAJORITY OF WHAT YOUR ASSETS ARE, CASH AND INVESTMENTS IN TEXT POOL, THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND SO FROM AN AUDIT RISK STANDPOINT, THESE NUMBERS ARE EXTREMELY LOW RISK.

AS WE'RE ABLE TO SEND CONFIRMATIONS OUT TO THIRD PARTIES, IT'S NOT THE COUNTY SAYING, HEY, WE HAVE THIS MONEY AND WE JUST SIGN OFF.

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SO AS FAR AS YOUR BALANCE SHEET AND LOOKING AT IT, THERE'S VERY LITTLE RISK HERE.

AS YOU CAN SEE THE LARGEST LIABILITY THIS YEAR IS YOUR UNEARNED REVENUE, WHICH IS A LITTLE OVER $13 MILLION, WHICH AGAIN, THAT'S HOW WE HAVE TO CLASSIFY THE ARP.

A MONEY WE COUNTED AS CASH WILL BE COUNTED AS A LIABILITY BECAUSE WE CAN'T COUNT IT AS REVENUE UNTIL YOU GUYS SPEND IT.

SO AS YOU SPEND THAT, THAT LIABILITY WILL REDUCE, YOU WILL INCREASE REVENUES AND YOU'LL INCREASE EXPENSES.

SO A LOT OF THINGS THAT, THAT YOU GUYS ARE HAVE PLANNED FOR THAT MONEY.

SO AGAIN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS, NOT A LOT OF RISK, UH, ON THE BALANCE SHEET, UM, IF YOU LOOK OVER ON PAGE 14 AND 15, YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPEN DURING THE YEAR.

THE GENERAL FUNDS FUND BALANCE WENT UP ABOUT 3.6 MILLION, WHICH IS GREAT.

UM, EACH YEAR THAT NUMBER HAS BEEN GOING UP, BUT AS YOU CAN ALSO SEE EACH YEAR EXPENDITURES GO UP WITH THE GROWTH OF THE COUNTY, THE SERVICES THAT Y'ALL ARE PROVIDING AND ALL THE NEEDS THAT ARE GOING ON THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, THAT EXPENDITURE NUMBER CONTINUES TO GROW.

SO THAT FUND BALANCE NUMBER NEEDS TO GROW, TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A CASH RESERVE.

AS WE ALL KNOW, AT THE END OF JANUARY, PRETTY MUCH A LOT OF THE REVENUE THAT COMES IN KIND OF DRIES UP AS PROPERTY TAXES ARE PRETTY MUCH COLLECTED, UH, AT THAT POINT.

SO THAT'S WHAT FUND BALANCE IS FOR IT'S TO BRIDGE THE GAP BETWEEN GETTING A LOT OF CASH ALL UPFRONT, AND THEN HAVING TO SPEND THAT, UH, OVER A YEAR ROAD AND BRIDGE FUNDS HAVE A LITTLE OVER 5.2 MILLION IN THEM.

SO THEY'LL, THOSE ARE IN GREAT FINANCIAL SHAPE.

IF YOU LOOK OVER PAGE 14, YOU CAN ALSO SEE THAT THERE WAS A $45 MILLION WORTH OF BONDS ISSUED THOSE BECAUSE PEOPLE WANT A DEBT OF THE COUNTY.

THEY WANT TO OWN THAT AS AN INVESTMENT, YOU CAN SEE THERE THAT THERE WAS A PREMIUM THERE OF ABOUT 10.6 MILLION IN THAT CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, UH, INCREASING THAT FUND BALANCE FOR ABOUT 60 TO 91.

AND YOU WILL, YOU WILL CONTINUE TO SEE THAT NUMBER GO DOWN AS YOU SPEND THOSE BOND FUNDS ON THE PROJECTS THAT THEY WERE ISSUED FOR THAT IT MAY GO BACK UP AS YOU GUYS CONTINUE TO ISSUE BONDS AS WELL.

DEBT SERVICE, VERY GOOD FINANCIAL SHAPE THERE WITH A LITTLE OVER 3.2 MILLION IN FUND BALANCE.

AND OBVIOUSLY THE ARP MONEY DOESN'T HAVE ANY FUND BALANCE BECAUSE IT'S CASH OFFSET BY A LIABILITY UNTIL YOU SPEND IT.

SO, UM, AS WE LOOK AT THE BALANCE SHEET INCOME STATEMENT FOR THE COUNTY, THERE'S NOTHING HERE.

THAT'S SENDING UP A RED FLAG.

LIKE WE DON'T SEE A CONTINUOUS DECREASE IN FUND BALANCE, OR WE DON'T SEE AN INCREASE IN BILLS NOT BEING PAID TIMELY AND THINGS THAT WOULD SIGNIFY FINANCIAL INSTABILITY AT THE COUNTY.

SO WITH THE GROWTH, I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB OF GOING FROM PRETTY SMALL TO GETTING PRETTY BIG AND NOT A LOT OF TIME.

AND SO, UM, I THINK WITH THE CONTROLS AND THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF FUNDS THAT ARE COMING IN, YOU JUST GOT TO ALWAYS KEEP ON, UH, TRYING TO IMPROVE AND MAKING SURE THAT YOU'RE ACCOMMODATING EVERYTHING PAGE 17 AND 18 THIS YEAR IS REALLY THE ONLY CHANGE THAT WE HAD TO THE FINANCIALS.

IF YOU'LL REMEMBER, WE USED TO HAVE JUST A SHEET THAT SAID CASH AND DUE TO OTHERS.

AND THOSE WERE FOR FUNDS THAT THE COUNTY HOLDS FOR OTHER ENTITIES.

FOR INSTANCE, YOUR TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR COLLECTS FOR MULTIPLE ENTITIES.

SO THE MONEY THAT SITS IN THEIR ACCOUNT AT THE END OF THE YEAR IS PUT SOMEWHERE ELSE BECAUSE PREDOMINANTLY ALL THAT BELONGS TO SOMEBODY ELSE.

SO THEY'VE CHANGED THE WAY WE REPORT THAT THE BASE OF WHAT'S BEING REPORTED.

THERE IS THE SAME, BUT NOW ON PAGE 18, THEY MAKE YOU HAVE AN INCOME STATEMENT BECAUSE I THINK PEOPLE WEREN'T REALIZING HOW MUCH MONEY WAS GOING THROUGH THESE ACCOUNTS.

AND JUST WANTING TO POINT OUT THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE AN INCREASED LEVEL OF INTERNAL CONTROLS, WHICH YOU GUYS HAVE, BUT YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S $291 MILLION GO THROUGH THAT TAX OFFICE BETWEEN THAT'S NOT JUST PROPERTY TAXES BEING COLLECTED, THAT'S AUTO VEHICLE, THAT'S ALL THOSE THINGS THAT GO THROUGH THERE.

SO A LOT OF MONEY THERE, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE CHANGES THAT, THAT HAPPENED DURING THE YEAR PAGE 19 STARTS THE NOTES TO THE FINANCIALS, WHICH LIKE THE MD AND A KIND OF GO THROUGH AND HAVE REQUIRED EXPANDED DATA ON THE NUMBERS THAT ARE UPFRONT.

UM, IF YOU LOOK ON PAGE 26, YOU CAN SEE YOUR CAPITAL ASSET ACTIVITY WITH CONSTRUCTION AND PROGRESS GOING UP ABOUT 19.3 MILLION.

SO THOSE WERE A LOT OF CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT ARE IN PROCESS THAT AREN'T COMPLETE.

SO AS THOSE PROJECTS FINISH, WE WILL CONVERT THOSE TO CAPITAL ASSETS, PUT THEM WHERE THEY NEED TO GO AND START DEPRECIATING THOSE ITEMS. SIMILARLY, ON PAGE 27, YOU CAN SEE, UH, YOUR LONGTERM DEBT, UH, NUMBERS THEY'RE BROKEN OUT BY WHAT TYPES OF DEBT, UH, THAT YOU GUYS HAVE.

UM, ONE THING THAT, THAT WE ALWAYS LIKE TO VISIT ABOUT IS IF YOU'LL LOOK AT PAGE 41, IF YOU REMEMBER, THIS IS THE SEVENTH YEAR WE'VE HAD TO START, INCLUDING WHAT'S, WHAT'S KNOWN AS THE PENSION LIABILITY OR UNFUNDED PENSION LIABILITY, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY

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RE REPORTED HERE ON PAGES 41 AND 42.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE, AT THE TOP, THAT'S WHAT YOUR COST IS.

SO AT THE END OF 20, THE PENSION LIABILITY WAS ABOUT 107 MILLION, BUT ALSO THE COUNTY HAS ALSO BEEN PAYING IN THE COUNTY, PAYS THEIR SHARE, EMPLOYEES, PAY THEIR SHARE THAT GOES TO TC THE REST.

AND THEY HOLD THOSE ASSETS FOR THE COUNTY.

THOSE CAME IN AT ABOUT ONE, A LITTLE OVER 102 MILLION.

AND SO THE ACTUAL NET PENSION LIABILITY THAT IT GETS RECORDED IS ABOUT 5.7.

AND THAT NUMBER IS YOU CAN SEE IT'S BEEN AS LOW AS 1.8.

IT'S BEEN AS HIGH AS 9.6.

AND THAT NUMBER REALLY JUST FLUCTUATES WITH THE STOCK MARKET.

AS THE MARKET MOVES, THE ASSETS THAT YOU GUYS HOLD GO UP AND DOWN MARKET GOES UP THE ASSETS THAT YOU HAVE THERE GROW AND MAKE THAT LIABILITY SMALLER.

BUT THE MAIN THING THAT WE WANT TO FOCUS ON HERE IS I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE HEAR PENSION AND LIABILITY, AND THEY THINK ABOUT OTHER STATES AND THE HORROR STORIES THAT YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT PENSIONS.

BUT IF YOU LOOK UNDER THE FISCAL YEAR 20 COLUMN ON PAGE 41, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE COUNTY IS 95% FUNDED.

SO THIS ISN'T LIKE A RUNAWAY PENSION LIABILITY WHERE THERE'S NO WAY THAT THESE OBLIGATIONS ARE GOING TO BE MET.

TC DEROS IS A WELL-RUN PROGRAM.

THEY ESSENTIALLY, THE ONLY WAY THIS IMPACTS YOU EVERY YEAR IS WHEN T CDRS SAYS, OKAY, YOUR RATE IS 14.8 OR WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS.

AND THEN EACH PAYROLL, YOU GUYS PAY YOUR SHARE.

THEY TAKE THE EMPLOYEES APART.

AND THAT GOES TO THEM.

THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY WAY THAT THAT IMPACTS THE FINANCIALS FROM A DAY TO DAY BASIS.

AND AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, AS SOON AS YOU GET THAT RATE, YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY IN FOR THE YEAR AND, AND YOU BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.

SO, UM, BEFORE YOU LEAVE IT, I HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION.

SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE VALUE OF THE ASSETS THAT WE HOLD.

UH, NOT THAT YOU HOLD TC ADDRESS, IS THAT CAPTURED? WHAT'S THE DATE? THAT, THAT CASE.

FOR THIS GOOD QUESTION.

SO IF YOU'LL LOOK HERE ON PAGE 41, THIS IS AS OF DECEMBER 31ST, 2020.

WE'RE ALWAYS LIKE A YEAR AND NINE MONTHS BEHIND.

SO IT'S A SNAPSHOT TAKEN IN THE LAST DAY OF THE YEAR.

THAT'S IT? THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT IS.

IT'S A BALANCE SHEET.

IT'S LIKE OUR INCOME STATEMENT IS CAPTURING 12 MONTHS, BUT A BALANCE SHEET JUST CAPTURES WHERE IT IS ON ONE DAY.

OR SIGNIFICANT DEFICIENCIES IN THAT GRANT, EITHER SELL.

SO YOU CAN SEE SOMETIMES THESE NET ASSETS FLUCTUATE, LIKE IN 2017, THEY INCREASED BY 10 MILLION AND THEN AN 18, THEY DECREASED BY 1.1.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S JUST LIKE, IT'S DEFINITELY UP AND DOWN.

IT IS.

AND THEY TRY TO DO SOME THINGS TO SMOOTH IT.

BUT I DON'T THINK WITH THE WAY, SOMETIMES THE MARKET GOES UP AND DOWN, THERE'S NO WAY TO MAKE IT BECAUSE WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IS MAKE IT GO.

WHAT IT REALLY IS DOING IS GOING UP A LITTLE BIT EACH YEAR, OVER A LONG TIME.

BUT UNFORTUNATELY IT GETS JUST LIKE YOUR PORTFOLIO AT HOME.

WE CAN'T JUST DO THIS.

IT HAS TO GO LIKE THIS, WHICH I WISH THERE WAS A WAY THEY COULD FIGURE OUT HOW TO CHANGE THAT.

BUT, UH, ALL IN ALL VERY GOOD THERE.

UM, ANOTHER THING THAT'S ANOTHER INTERNAL CONTROL TO, IN A, IN A PIECE THAT WE USE A LOT DURING THE AUDIT, IT STARTS ON PAGE 47 IS LOOKING AT BUDGET TO ACTUAL.

WE HAVE PLACES WHERE FUND BALANCES AND ITS HEALTHIEST Y'ALL'S.

AND THAT THAT'S TYPICALLY BECAUSE THEY ISSUE A BUDGET AND IF THEY NEED IT, SOMETIMES THEY STILL DO IT ANYWAY.

EVEN IF IT'S NOT IN THE BUDGET AND YOU GUYS DO NOT DO THAT.

SO YOU CAN LOOK OVER ON PAGE 50, OR I'M SORRY, ON PAGE 49.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT YOU BUDGET CONSERVATIVELY, YOU CAME IN ABOUT 1.4 TO THE GOOD ON REVENUE, MEANING YOUR ESTIMATES OF REVENUE WERE CONSERVATIVE.

SO YOU'RE NOT BETTING ON REVENUE THAT DOESN'T COME IN.

THE OTHER THING IS, IS YOU STAYED UNDER ON YOUR TOTAL EXPENDITURES TO THE TUNE OF ABOUT 3.7 MILLION.

UM, SO YOU BUDGETED SOMETIMES PART OF THAT'S TIMING, SOME OF THAT'S UNFILLED POSITIONS.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT GO INTO WHY THAT WASN'T MET ALL THE WAY, BUT OUR MAIN THING IS, AND BY LAW, YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO OVERSPEND YOUR BUDGET AND YOU GUYS DON'T DO THAT.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY YOUR FUND BALANCE IS NOW A LITTLE OVER 15 MILLION.

I MEAN, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED WORKING WITH, Y'ALL OBVIOUSLY THE GROWTH WASN'T THERE, BUT THAT NUMBER WAS A LOT LOWER.

AND Y'ALL GUYS HAVE MADE A LOT OF DECISIONS.

A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE MADE DECISIONS AND PUT PROCESSES IN PLACE TO, TO GET THAT NUMBER UP.

AND WE DON'T SEE ANYTHING THAT WOULD THINK THAT THAT WOULD MAKE THAT CHANGE.

SO ALL IN ALL, UM, I THINK Y'ALL ARE HANDLING THE GROWTH WELL.

UM, AND ALSO WITH THAT, YOU ALSO HAVE A SINGLE AUDIT REPORT.

UM, THIS YEAR WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY, WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH FEDERAL FUNDS TO MEET THE CRITERIA, BUT WITH YOUR SOIL CONSERVATION GRANT THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN USING, WE HAVE TO DO, WHAT'S CALLED A STATE SINGLE AUDIT.

AND THAT'S, WHAT'S IN THIS OTHER BOUND DOCUMENT.

UM, YOU'LL HAD ABOUT ONE, ALMOST 1.3 MILLION OF EXPENDITURES UNDER THAT.

AND WE DID NOT HAVE ANY MATERIAL WEAKNESSES

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UM, WITH THAT, WE'D LIKE TO THANK COMMISSIONER'S COURT FOR ALLOWING US TO PERFORM THE AUDIT.

AND WE REALLY HAVE TO EXTEND, UH, MS. MCCLOUD AND HER OFFICE, A LOT OF THANKS BECAUSE THEY GIVE US, THEY DO THEIR REGULAR JOB AND THEN WE'RE CONSTANTLY, HEY, SEND US THIS.

HEY, WHAT HAPPENED HERE? HEY, CAN YOU MEET ABOUT THIS? AND THEY, EVERYBODY THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY IS VERY ACCOMMODATING TO US.

AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE WITH A REPORT THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS.

AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE HELP THAT WE GET BECAUSE WE DON'T GET A LOT OF HELP AT A LOT OF PLACES AND THEY DON'T GO AS WELL AS THIS EITHER.

SO AGAIN, GOOD REPORT TEAM EFFORT.

AND, UH, IF YOU GUYS HAVE QUESTIONS, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION IN HERE, BUT, UH, IF Y'ALL HAVE ANYTHING, I'D BE GLAD TO ENTERTAIN THOSE NOW.

AND, AND THANK YOU ALL AGAIN, QUESTIONS FOR JOHN.

I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE LAST, UH, IN OUR LAST BUDGET SESSION OF OUR BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR WAS WE TALKED ABOUT TAKING MONEY OUT OF OUR FUND BALANCE FOR A UNIMPORTANT, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY PROJECT.

UH, HOW IS THAT VIEWED? UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT 15 MILLION IN FUND BALANCE RIGHT NOW, AND WHICH IS PROBABLY WHAT I KNOW IT'S MORE THAN THE STANDARD MINIMUM STANDARD.

SO HOW IS THAT VIEWED IN AN AUDIT IF YOU SEE IF WE TOOK TWO OR $3 MILLION OUT OF FUND BALANCE, OKAY.

WE DON'T VIEW THAT BAD AT ALL.

ESPECIALLY IF IT'S PLANNED.

WHAT WE HAVE CONCERNS ARE IS WHEN YOU CONTINUALLY SEE PEOPLE OVERSPEND THEIR BUDGET AND THAT NUMBER JUST GO DOWN.

A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE PROJECTS THAT THEY WANT TO DO, AND THEY DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO FINANCE IT THROUGH DEBT.

SO THEY BUILD UP FUND BALANCE OVER A TWO OR THREE-YEAR PERIOD, HAVE A ONE-TIME EXPENDITURE, AND THEN GRADUALLY BUILD THAT BACK UP.

SO IT'S NOT VIEWED, ESPECIALLY AS LONG AS IT'S PLANNED.

NOW, IF YOUR FUND BALANCE WAS A MILLION, RIGHT, AND YOU GUYS WERE WANTING TO DO A $5 MILLION ONE-TIME PROJECT, I'D PROBABLY BE SAYING, HEY, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT.

BUT I DO THINK THAT YOUR FUND BALANCE IS IN A POSITION WHERE IF THERE ARE SOME ONE-TIME TYPE THINGS THAT YOU GUYS PLAN FOR, I THINK IT WOULDN'T BE FROWNED UPON AT ALL.

I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT FUND BALANCE IS FOR IT'S.

I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE LOOK AT IT, AS YOU SAID, JUDGE, IT'S A ONE DAY SNAPSHOT.

SO THAT NUMBER AT A DIFFERENT TIME OF THE YEAR LOOKS A LOT DIFFERENT BECAUSE LIKE I MENTIONED, YOUR PREDOMINANT SOURCE OF REVENUE HERE ARE PROPERTY TAXES.

AND AS EVERYONE KNOWS, THOSE ARE DUE BY JANUARY 31ST.

SO IT'S JUST MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, AND THEN NOT A LOT THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE YEAR.

SO THAT BUILD UP YOUR PAYROLL IS CONSTANT.

YOUR BILLS ARE CONSTANT, BUT THE WAY YOUR CASHFLOW COMES IN IS KIND OF IN THREE OR FOUR MONTHS, REALLY HEAVY AND THEN LIGHTER AND OTHER TIMES OF THE YEAR.

SO, BUT THAT'S WHY YOU NEED FUND BALANCE.

I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE LOOK AT IT AND SAY, WELL, YOU'RE JUST TAKING MONEY AND NOT SPENDING IT.

AND THAT'S NOT WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW.

WE HAVE SOME PLACES THAT HAVE A YEAR OF FUND BALANCE AND SOME NUMBERS THAT ARE PRETTY HIGH, BUT AGAIN, THEY'RE DOING SOME THINGS LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LETTING THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO SOME PROJECTS WITHOUT ISSUING DEBT AND JUST KIND OF SELF FINANCING THOSE.

SO WE DON'T, WE DON'T VIEW THAT AS A PROBLEM AT ALL.

AND I THINK Y'ALL ARE IN A POSITION TO DO SOME ONE-TIME PROJECTS LIKE THAT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND, UH, I GUESS WE ALL BE AMISS IF WE DIDN'T, UH, THANK THE AUDITOR AND HER TEAM.

I MEAN, REALLY EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY, LIKE YOU SAID, JOHN, I MEAN, I THINK I SEE THAT WE'VE A LOT OF PROCESSES AND POLICIES IN PLACE, AND OF COURSE THE AUDITOR IS GOT A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITY FOR MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING THOSE THINGS.

AND, AND THAT SHOWS UP IN THE, UM, THAT SHOWS UP IN THIS GOOD AUDIT REPORT.

YEAH, I WOULD AGREE.

THANK YOU, KAREN AND YOUR TEAM TOO.

ANYBODY ELSE? NO.

WE KNOW KAREN KEEPS A REAL TIGHT BRAIN OVER, YOU KNOW? OH YEAH.

SHE KEEPS ONE ON US TOO.

SO, UH, WHAT'S BEFORE US WOULD BE LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AUDIT FOR FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2021 AS PRESENTED BY JOHN MANNY.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND, THE COMMISSIONER CAGE DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

UH, NEXT UP ITEM FOUR, AND WE'LL HEAR THE PRESENTATION FROM COUNTY STAFF FIRST, AND THEN WE'LL HEAR THE COMMENT FROM THE PUBLIC.

NO MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

[4. Kristi Dickey; Discuss/Consider motion to Approve Replat of Taylor Ranch Lot 72 Located on Taylor Ranch Loop in PCT4.]

UH, SO CHRISTIE DICKIE DISCUSSING CONSIDER A MOTION TO APPROVE REPLAY OUT OF TAYLOR RANCH, LOT 72 LOCATED ON TAYLOR RANCH LOOP IN PRECINCT FOUR.

FOR TAYLOR RANCH, LOT 72 FOR A REPLAT.

UM, THE CLIENT HAS SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION, UM, AND HAS GONE THROUGH THE REVIEW PROCESS

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THE CLIENT IS GOING TO BE KEEPING ONE ACRE AND, UM, ESSENTIALLY SELLING THE 6.4 ACRES FOR A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE.

UM, ALL THE APPROVING AUTHORITIES HAVE GONE OVER THE PACKET AND HAVE SIGNED OFF ON IT.

UH, QUESTIONS FOR CHRISTIE.

OKAY, THEN, UM, I'LL ASK, UH, THANK YOU, CHRISTIE.

YOU MIGHT, IF YOU STAY UP HERE FOR JUST IN CASE WE HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION TO FOLLOW UP, UH, JEFFREY FIREBAUGH, UH, HAD A CARD HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING THIS ISSUE.

IT SEEMS OH, VARIOUS.

THANKS KIM.

IF YOU'D COME TO THE MICROPHONE AND TELL US WHO YOU ARE AND WHERE YOU LIVE.

MY NAME'S JEFFREY FIREBALL LIVE AT 11 THREE OR NINE COUNTY ROAD, 40 40.

I GOT THIS THROUGH THE MAIL AT THREE O'CLOCK YESTERDAY AFTERNOON, AND I WAS READING IT AND IT SOUNDS LIKE SOMEBODY WANTS TO MAKE A TRAILER PARK OUT OF HIS 20 ACRES, BUT I'M TOLD IT'S NOT, IS THAT WHAT'S GOING ON? I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT.

UH, CHRISTY OR ANYBODY WANT TO ADDRESS THE QUESTION? UH, LOT 72 AND TAYLOR RANCH, LIB IS 7.44 ACRES.

AND THE CLIENT IS WANTING JUST TO SELL THE FOUR, THE 6.44 ACRES.

UM, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING IT'S, THERE'S NOT BEEN ANOTHER APPLICATION FOR ANY TYPE OF SUBDIVISION OF THAT 6.4, FOUR ACRES.

SO I GUESS IT'S NOT WELL, SO WE WERE AWARE OF IT.

IF IT WAS A TRAILER PARK, I'D BE AGAINST IT.

CAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT THE ORIGINAL FAMILY WANTED.

UM, SO WE DON'T KNOW ANY FURTHER INFORMATION ABOUT THAT 6.48, CORRECT.

UM, AT THIS TIME, UM, THE GENTLEMAN, UM, THE CLIENT IS GOING TO KEEP THE ONE ACRE FOR HIMSELF AND HIS WIFE AND SELL THE 6.44 ACRES.

UM, I DON'T KNOW WHO WOULD PURCHASE THAT.

I MEAN, IT'S NOT UP FOR SALE AT THIS TIME.

THEY'RE JUST A SUBDIVIDING.

IT, HIS INTENTIONS IS TO SELL IT.

AND AT THIS TIME, I DON'T KNOW OF ANY DEVELOPER, IT COULD BE A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE.

THAT'S GOING TO BUY IT.

I DON'T KNOW.

AND NO ONE'S CONTACTED THE PRECINCT OFFICE TO DISCUSS ANY SUCH ENDEAVOR.

SO IT BE NEWS TO US, IF ANYTHING LIKE THAT WERE GOING ON AND THEY'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.

IF THEY'RE GOING TO SUBDIVIDE THAT THEY'LL HAVE TO GO HOME.

NOBODY KNOWS.

BUT WHEN THEY ON, IN HERE IN THE WORDING, WHEN THEY USED A MULTIPLE FAMILY, I GO, OH MY GOD, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT PART APARTMENTS.

THAT'S WHAT THEY CALL THAT WHEN THEY SAW FAMILY IN TOWNS, MULTIPLE LISTING ANYWAY.

ANYWAY, I DON'T HAVE PROBLEMS. WELL, THANKS FOR COMING UP.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMING.

UM, ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR CHRISTIE? NO JUDGE I'D MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS WRITTEN, UH, COMMISSIONER AND CATES MAKES A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT REPLAT HAS PRESENTED AN ITEM FOUR.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

[5. Kristi Dickey; Discuss/Consider motion to Approve the Final Plat for Morton Estates Located on FM 3486 in PCT3.]

OH, WELL YOU'RE BACK.

YOU'RE STILL HERE.

CHRISTIE.

NUMBER FIVE, CHRISSY DICKEY DISCUSS, CONSIDER MOTION TO APPROVE THE FINAL PLAT FOR MORTON ESTATES LOCATED ON FM 34 86 IN PRECINCT THREE.

IT'S UH, MORTON ESTATES IS SUBDIVIDING.

THE 10 ACRES.

IT'S UH, TWO LIGHTS, ONE BEING 6.45, AND THE OTHER BEING 3.55 ACRES.

AND THIS WILL BE FOR SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL HOMES, QUESTIONS.

IF, UH, NO QUESTIONS.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FINAL PLAT FOR MORTON? THE HAS PRESENTED I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION COMMISSIONER HUNT.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND SEGMENT COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE OPPOSED.

NO MOTION CARRIES.

THANK

[6. Pam Corder; Discuss and consider approving the contract with Hidden Acres for use of their property to hold the County Employees Appreciation Day Event.]

YOU, CHRISTIE.

UH, NEXT UP PAM, QUARTER ITEM SIX, DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING THE CONTRACT WITH HIDDEN ACRES FOR USE OF THEIR PROPERTY TO HOLD THE COUNTY EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION DAY EVENT.

SO FUN DAY, A FUN DAY.

SO, UM, OUR COMMITTEE HAD CHOSEN HIDDEN ACRES.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH HIDDEN ACRES.

IT'S A CHRISTIAN RETREAT OUT IN OLA.

UM, IT HAS NUMEROUS THINGS FOR OUR EMPLOYEES TO BE ABLE TO DO WITH THEIR CHILDREN.

UM, THEY'VE GOT A LAKE, THEY'VE GOT POOLS, THEY'VE GOT BAZOOKA BALL.

THEY HAVE, UM, INDOOR WHERE THEY CAN GO IN AND GET IN THE AIR CONDITIONER.

AND SO, UM, THAT'S THE LOCATION.

WE HAVE CHOSEN TO HAVE OUR APPRECIATION, UM, EVENT FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.

AND I JUST WANTED TO BRING THE CONTRACT TO YOU FOR YOUR APPROVAL ON THAT.

UM,

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IT'S A REGULAR CONTRACT.

YOU HAVE GOTTEN IT JUST, YOU KNOW, WE HOLD THEM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY ACCIDENTS THAT HAPPEN WHILE OUR EMPLOYEES ARE THERE.

AND I WANT THE EMPLOYEES TO GET READY BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TUG OF WAR AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FUN GAMES LIKE THAT.

SO BE PRACTICING AND THERE MAY BE AWARDS TO GIVE OUT SHERIFF.

I KNOW YOUR EMPLOYEES REALLY LIKED TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT QUESTIONS.

UH, THEN LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT WITH HIDDEN ANCHORS AS PRESENTED.

SO MOVE, WE HAD THAT MOTION FROM VENTURA CASE.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER HUNT, DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE AND REMIND EVERYONE THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT DATE THOUGH, JUNE 25TH FROM 11 TO SIX.

SO IF YOU HAVEN'T RSVP DO THAT.

[7. AgriLife / Facility Committee; Receive Committee report for construction and operations budget for renovations to the Kaufman County Fairgrounds and Facilities.]

ITEM SEVEN AGRILIFE FACILITY COMMITTEE RECEIVED COMMITTEE REPORT FOR CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATIONS BUDGET FOR RENOVATIONS TO THE KAUFMAN COUNTY FAIRGROUNDS AND FACILITIES.

WE GOT THE 18 HERE.

OH, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT.

18 PLUS JUNIOR RIDER.

HAVE HERE OVERALL, A LOT OF AREAS IS, IS A LOCATION.

THANK YOU SIR.

LIKE SIR, THE JUDGE COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING US TODAY.

SO THIS IS BEEN A FACT FINDING MISSION THAT I GUESS BACK IN APRIL, WE WERE CHALLENGED WITH A TASK OF ABOUT 60 DAYS OR SO TO, TO GATHER SOME INFORMATION.

I KNOW Y'ALL, HADN'T MET BEFORE I STARTED BACK WITH HOK TO START MAKING PRELIMINARY PLANS AND, UH, WE KINDA GOT THE BALL ROLLING IN APRIL, HAD A COMMUNITY, UH, MEETING THAT, UH, MR. HUNT WAS AT SEVERAL OF THE PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CITY, UM, TURNEY VALLEY ELECTRIC, A COUPLE AG TEACHER.

SO BOARD MEMBERS.

SO JUST TO KIND OF GET PRELIMINARY PAN PLANS FOR THE ACTUAL FAIR FAIRGROUND COMPLEX ABOUT SOME IDEAS THAT, YOU KNOW, TRY TO REVITALIZE IT.

WE'VE GOT ALL THAT DEVELOPMENT COMING AROUND TO TRY TO REVITALIZE IT, MAKE IT MORE CONDUCIVE, UH, FOR EDUCATION, NUMBER ONE, MAKE IT MORE CONDUCIVE FOR THE YOUTH OF OUR COUNTY.

UM, BUT ALSO FOR EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMMING.

SO THE INFORMATION GATHERED PROPOSED MANAGEMENT PLAN, UH, PROMOTE SUSTAINABILITY AND PHYSICALLY RESPONSIBLE RESPONSIBILITY INCREASED OUR EDUCATIONAL.

THAT'D BE GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO, TO NOT HAVE TO GO OUT AND TRY TO FIND PLACES FOR US TO HAVE OUR EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS AND INCUR INCREASED COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AS WELL.

UH, IF YOU LOOK OVER ON THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE MILESTONES Y'ALL WERE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BEFORE I GOT HERE BACK IN NOVEMBER MEETING, UH, THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT, YOU ALL STARTED MEETING WITH HOK AGAIN IN APRIL, WE MET WITH THE COMMUNITY, UH, TO TRY TO TALK ABOUT THE MASTER PLAN THAT HOK HAD PUT DEVOUT KINDA GOT DEVELOPED.

AND THEN FROM THERE WE KIND OF STARTED GETTING THE BALL ROLLING.

WE MET WITH PREFERRED.

SO PREFERRED IS A, I GOT STARTED YEARS AGO, MIGRANT AGRICULTURAL TOP PRODUCTS, PANELS, ROPING, SHOOTS, THINGS OF THAT.

WHAT MANY PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE IS THEY ALSO DESIGNED THESE FACILITIES.

UM, SO JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THEY HAVE DONE.

SO THE TAYLOR COUNTY EXPO CENTER, UH, IN ABALENE, THEY'VE DONE THAT THE NEW HORSE COMPLEX AT TEXAS A AND M THEY'VE DONE IT.

UH, AND NOW THEY'RE WORKING ON A MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR FACILITY AT SAM HOUSTON STATE UNIVERSITY AS WELL.

SO YOU CAN SEE THERE THERE'S SEVEN P'S THAT THEY'VE GOT OF US, OF THOSE SEVEN PS THAT WE KIND OF TASKED OURSELVES TO DOING IS TRY TO ESTABLISH THE PURPOSE OF THIS, UM, THIS PLAN, THE PLACEMENT OF IT, WE'VE ALREADY GOT THE, THE GROUNDS.

WE'VE GOT THE, BASICALLY THE INFRASTRUCTURE THERE TO TRY TO DO SOME PLANNING ON, UM, BROAD, BROAD IDEAS OF WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THAT, UH, FACILITY ON DOWN THE ROAD.

AND IT'S TRYING TO GIVE A OVERVIEW OF WHAT THAT PICTURE CAN LOOK LIKE, UH, ON DOWN THE ROAD.

SO THE PROJECT SCOPE WAS TO DEVELOP A MULTI-USE RECREATIONAL, UH, AREA TO BRING LIFE TO THAT AREA.

WE ALL KNOW THAT THAT WHOLE AREA AROUND THERE IS GETTING, UM, REALLY REDEVELOPED.

IT'S REALLY BECOMING A, UH, A FAST GROWING AREA.

AND WE GOT OUR FAIRGROUNDS THERE THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE REVITALIZED AND MAKE IT WORK AND EXPAND THAT VISIBILITY TO MONICA, TO MODERNIZE IT AND REFLECT THE GROWTH THAT'S GOING ON, UH, TO UPGRADE AND OR REPLACE THE EXECS, THE EXISTING FAIRGROUNDS TO INCREASE OUR OUTREACH, TO LET THE COUNTY KNOW THAT, HEY, WE'VE GOT A FACILITY HERE THAT WE'RE PROUD OF.

IT CAN USE, UH, IT'S GREAT SYSTEM SUSTAINABILITY FOR THE COMPLEX AND THE COMMUNITY.

UM, AND THE ONE THING THAT WE, WE

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WE ARE SO CLOSE TO MAJOR HIGHWAYS OR SO CLOSE TO MEIJER'S HANDS.

UH, SO JUST THAT, THAT IS A KEY PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.

SO IDEAS FOR IMPROVEMENT, UH, NEEDS FOR PUBLIC MEETINGS, ROOM SPACE, UM, MULTIPURPOSE FACILITY TO FIT THE NEEDS OF MANY UPGRADE THE LIVESTOCK AND THE QUESTIONING EXHIBITION FACILITIES TO ADD SOME ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES OUT THERE.

AND THEN AGAIN, UM, GIVING UP OFFICES FOR THE AGRILIFE EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMMING AND OFFICE SPACE FOR OUR OFFICES, AND THEN TO UPGRADE, DEFINITELY NEED THAT FOR, FOR THE UTILITIES, WATER, AND SEWER, UH, ISSUES THAT WE ALWAYS ENCOUNTER OUT THERE.

SO NOW I'M A PARTNER IN CRIME, KIND OF, YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO SAY CRIME THAT DOESN'T COUNT SHERIFF'S DIDN'T KNOW.

SO BASICALLY THE NEXT SLIDE YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UM, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A HAT IT'S A TWO-TONE TWO COLOR.

AND SO THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF THE PROPOSED, UH, PHASES THAT, UH, PREFERRED HAS OFFERED US.

AND SO ON THE LEFT, WHICH IS PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO, THESE ARE TWO DIFFERENT PHASES.

SO BASICALLY WHAT THE PHASE IS WE'RE LOOKING ON THAT IS THE SITE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE FACILITY, UPGRADE.

THOSE INCLUDE ADDRESSING THE CURRENT PROBLEMS OF THE UTILITIES, THE SEWER, THE WATER WE'RE GOING TO DEVELOP THE AGRILIFE OFFICES AND EXHIBIT AREA AND PUBLIC MEETING SPACE OF 13,000 SQUARE FEET.

ALSO THIS ALSO REPAIRS AND UPGRADES, THE EXISTING LIVESTOCK BARN, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A CONTINUOUS DUTY OF THE YOUTH AND EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS OUT THERE WHILE WE'RE BUILDING THE OTHER FACILITY.

AND SO I THINK THAT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE, UM, IF YOU ALL WOULD SEE THE CALENDAR THAT WE HAVE FOR THE FACILITY, EVERY FFA UNIT IN THE COUNTY USES THAT FACILITY AS A FUNDRAISER FOR THEIR JACKPOTS TO PREPARE FOR THE COUNTY FAIR, TO HELP OUT THEIR PROGRAMS. THE FOUR H USES IT AS A FUNDRAISER WHEN WE HAVE OUR SMALL JACKPOTS ALSO.

SO WE DO LOTS OF PROGRAM AT THEIR MFA.

DOESN'T JUST USE IT FOR JACKPOTS THOUGH.

THEY HAVE REGIONAL MEETINGS, DISTRICT MEETINGS, THEIR FOUR H DOES THE SAME.

SO I THINK WHILE WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD THE EXISTING OR THE NEW LIVESTOCK FACILITY, I THINK IT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT TO STILL SUPPORT THE YOUTH OF KAUFMAN COUNTY BY UPGRADING WHAT WE HAVE THE LAST TIME SHOW BOARD HAS DONE A GREAT JOB MAKING IT USABLE, BUT IT HAS A FEW UPGRADES, THE WATER AND THE, THE WASH RACKS NEEDS SOME HELP.

UM, BUT THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB WITH THAT, BUT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO LET THOSE FFA UNITS, THE OTHER YOUTH ORGANIZATIONS OF KAUFMAN COUNTY HAVE SOMEWHERE STILL TO GO.

SO THAT WOULD BE THEN IN PHASE TWO, THAT PHASE ONE WOULD BE ABOUT 2, 5, 2 $0.5 MILLION, UM, PAPER.

IT WAS GOING OFF OF WHAT WE ARE TELLING THEM.

THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO LOOK AT THE SITE THEMSELVES.

UH, GLEN IS ACTUALLY FROM FORNEY.

SO HE KNOWS OF THE KAUFMAN COUNTY FAIRGROUNDS PHASE TWO IS THE EXPO AND EVENT CENTER.

THIS IS A HUGE AREA, WHICH LATER ON, I WILL GIVE YOU A DEPICTION OF WHAT THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE.

IT IS BASICALLY AN 86,000 SQUARE FEET BUILDING SEMEN FLOOR.

WE CAN DO ALMOST ANYTHING IN IT.

IT'LL BE ALSO, THIS INCLUDES THE PARKING LOT, THE IT UPGRADE AND SEATS FOR 2000.

IF YOU LOOK TO THE RIGHT HERE IS A DIFFERENT PROPOSED IDEA.

AND SO THAT WE CAN USE UP, UM, PUT BASICALLY WE'RE COMBINING THE PHASE ONE PHASE TWO.

UM, WHEN WE ASKED GLEN TO DO A REDRAW OF COMBINING HIS PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO, HE TRIED TO STAY WITHIN THE BUDGET OF WHAT PHASE ONE TO PHASE TWO WOULD COST.

SO THAT WAS ABOUT $13.7 MILLION.

HE'S INCLUDING IN THAT BEHALF OF THE WORK SITE BUDGET FROM THE PREVIOUS, UH, UH, PHASES, THERE WOULD BE THE AGRILIFE ADMIN BUILDING.

IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE , THAT'S ACTUALLY ATTACHED TO THE LIVESTOCK EXHIBITION BUILDING.

UNFORTUNATELY, THOUGH, DUE TO KEEPING THINGS INTO COSTS, WE GO FROM 13,000 SQUARE FEET TO 7,000 SQUARE FEET FOR THE ADMIN AGRILIFE BUILDING NO EXHIBIT AREA.

UM, THE LAST, OUR FACILITY GOES FROM 86,000 SQUARE FEET TO 70,000 SQUARE FEET.

THAT IS HIM TRYING TO KEEP IT IN THE PARAMETERS.

WHEN WE HAD THE COMMITTEE MEETING ON FRIDAY, WE LISTENED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE.

WE SHOWED THEM THE ORIGINAL PHASES, ONE THROUGH FOUR, WHICH YOU'LL SEE THREE AND FOUR HERE IN A LITTLE BIT.

THEY ASKED WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE DID THE PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO AT THE SAME TIME GLEN HAD BETWEEN ONE O'CLOCK AND SIX O'CLOCK TO COME UP WITH NEW NUMBERS FOR NOW.

IT'S ALSO ON THAT COMBINATION THERE TOO.

IT'S IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THAT DOESN'T DO ANY REMODEL OF THE EXISTING WOMEN WOMEN'S AND MULTIPURPOSE THAT WOULD BE TORE DOWN.

AND THEN THERE'D BE THE THREE I PUT IN COMBINING PHASE ONE AND TWO DOESN'T PROVIDE.

SO BUILDING ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, ADDING THE NEW VISITOR.

SO THE THREE, A WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT REMODELING THE LIVESTOCK

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BARNS.

WE'RE NOT REMODELING THE, UH, EXISTING WOMEN'S BUILDING THAT ALL COMES DOWN.

WE DO THE NEW EXHIBIT AREA OF SEVEN 70,000 SQUARE FEET.

AND THEN THE ADMIN AGRILIFE OFFICES IS NOW 7,000 SQUARE FEET.

THAT'S ADDED ONTO YOUR EXHIBITION HALL.

SO IF WE GO ON, IF WE CONTINUE ON WITH THE ORIGINAL, UH, PHASE ONE THROUGH FOUR, THAT PREFERRED BUILDING SERVICES CAME UP WITH, THERE WOULD BE A THREE PHASE THREE WOULD BASICALLY BE GOING, AH, WE'RE GOING TO ADD ANOTHER 86,000 SQUARE FEET.

THIS WOULD BE ADDED ONTO THE LAST ARC EXHIBITION BUILDING.

THIS WOULD HAVE A DIRT FLOOR.

SO THIS WOULD BASICALLY BE AN OUTDOOR ARENA.

IT COULD BE AN OUTDOOR BED AREA, BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ATTACHED TO YOUR LAST EXHIBITION AND JUST MAKES YOUR WHOLE ENTIRE BUILDING USABLE TENFOLD.

AND SO WITH THAT BEING DONE, THE PHASE FOUR WOULD BE, UM, THIS, THIS PHASE FOUR AND THREE, THIS IS WHAT THE ENLIGHTENMENT THAT THE WOMEN'S BUILDING HAD BEEN RE MODELED FOR.

THE AGRILIFE, THE EXHIBITS, THE MEETING HALL.

SO PHASE FOUR WOULD BE THEN THE PUBLIC RESTROOMS CONCESSION AND OPERABLE PARTITIONS IN THE MEETING AREA AND ALL YOUR IT AND FIRE SUPPRESSION, AND THEN SEATING FOR ANOTHER 400 OF TABLES AND CHAIRS.

THAT AREA WOULD ALSO BE AIR CONDITIONED.

SO THAT IS THOSE DIFFERENT PHASES.

IT'S TRYING TO PUT EVERYTHING TOGETHER.

THE FIRST SLIDE WAS ONE, ONE AND TWO, IN ADDITION TO THE REQUEST OF ONE AND TWO BEING COMBINED.

IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THESE TWO SIDES? IT'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

WELL, I, AND I WILL SAY THIS, THANKS FOR PULLING PREFERRED IN TO THIS BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE KNOW HOW I WILL SAY THAT ANYWHERE.

AND THIS REALLY CAME A LONG WAY SINCE PREFER GOT IN THERE.

YOU KNOW, I, I DO HAVE, AND WHEN THE INITIAL PHASE ONE, WE HAD RE MOLLY THAN THE OLD PROFESSIONAL WOMEN'S BUILDING, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S PLANS.

YOU DON'T KNOW IF THE SLAB WAS BUILT BY AN ENGINEER, OR IF EVERYBODY GOT TOGETHER AND WENT AND PUT A SLAB IN AND BUILT A METAL BUILDING.

SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU START REMODELING SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS ESSENTIALLY DEMOLISH AND TERROR.

I MEAN, REBUILD WITH STUFF YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.

AND THEN A LOT OF THAT BUDGET WAS CONTINGENT ON THAT.

SO I, AND I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF JUST GOING IN AND BUILDING A NEW AGRILIFE BUILDING WITH THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.

AND LOOK, IT'S A GOOD IDEA.

THE, UH, SO I'M KIND OF AGAINST INVESTING A LOT OF MONEY IN SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T REALLY KNOW, BUT THE SKELETON OF IT IS BECAUSE ONCE WE GET IN THERE WITH MY, FIND SOMETHING DIFFERENT, AND THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, IN OUR SHOW BARN, WE HAVE, NOW I'M AN IDIOT.

IT'S FUNCTIONAL.

IT'S NOT THE BEST IN THE WORLD IS ROUGH LOOKING.

THERE'S A LOT OF ELECTRICAL PROBLEMS AND WATER PROBLEMS LIKE YOU BROUGHT UP, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE ARE GOING TO COMMIT TO DO THIS, DO WE WANT TO REALLY PUT MONEY INTO THAT FOR SHORT TERM? YOU KNOW? AND, AND, YOU KNOW, SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S JUST TO ME, IT COULD BE KIND OF A WASTE OF MONEY.

CAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A CHEAP FIX.

UM, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD PROBABLY, WELL, OF COURSE IN TODAY'S AGE, NOTHING NEEDS A CHEAP FIX.

UM, SO, AND, AND I KNOW THAT I'M TRYING TO REMODEL, JUST ADDING A FEW THINGS THAT MAKE IT EASIER TO USE.

LIKE I SAID, IT'S A FUNCTIONAL BUILDING RIGHT NOW, LOTS OF LIFE MEMORIES AND LIFE SKILLS ARE BEING LEARNED OUT AT THAT BARN ON A MONTHLY BASIS.

BUT THE FACT OF IT IS, IS IF WE GO WITH PHASE ONE AND TWO AND I'M, I'M NOT SAYING I WOULD REALLY LIKE FOR YOU ALL TO GO FOR ANY OF THE PHASES ANYWAYS.

UM, MY I'M TRYING TO SAY THOUGH, IS WE NEED TO GIVE THE LIVESTOCK CLUBS ENOUGH TIME TO KNOW THAT THEY NEED TO REDO AND REPLAN AND TRY TO FIND SOMETHING ELSE BECAUSE THOSE ARE REALLY MAJOR BENEFITS TO THEIR CHAPTERS AND ALSO THE FORAGE PROGRAM.

AND SO MY THOUGHT WITH THAT IS, I KNOW WE'RE PROBABLY PUTTING, UM, UH, ADJUSTMENTS THAT WILL LATER ON.

I MEAN, IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE FARM BUREAU, JUST PUT IN $7,000 ON AN AWNING THAT WE'RE JUST NOW GETTING READY TO TEAR IT DOWN.

NO, MAYBE LIKE WHEN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS OR I'M SO SORRY ABOUT THAT.

BUT EVENTUALLY WE JUST BUILT IT.

UM, AND A BUNCH OF THE GUYS, THEY WORKED REALLY HARD TO PUT THAT UP, BUT SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

THESE ARE ALL JUST OPTIONS I WILL BE.

AND TO HEAR IT, DISH DOES SHOW TEARING DOWN THE OLD SHOW BARN, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO COME DOWN WHILE WE BUILD, I CAN FOR ON THE PHASE ONE, THE YELLOW BOX, UM, ON PHASE ONE AND TWO.

BUT YOU COULD STILL HAVE THE SHOW BORN THERE WHILE YOU'RE BUILDING THAT BUILDING.

AND THEN YOU MOVED RIGHT INTO THAT BUILDING AND DOING SOME SHOWS, RIGHT? YES, YES, YES.

SO I MEAN, THE BUILDING DOESN'T HAVE TO COME DOWN INITIALLY TO BUILD THAT BUILDING.

CORRECT.

SO, SO I MEAN, IT'S, THEY'RE NOT THE ONLY MAJOR CHANGE IN PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO IS, UM, A,

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THE TIMELINE.

UM, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE ACTUAL LIVESTOCK BARN ITSELF, THERE MIGHT BE MINOR FIXES THAT WE NEED TO MAKE, BUT THERE'S SOME, UH, WE NEED TO CHECK WITH THEM WITH THE SHOW BARN, WITH THE SHOW BOARD TO SEE, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WOULD HELP THEM OUT MORE THAN WHAT THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN DOING? AND SO, YEAH, BUT TH THE ONE AND TWO COMBINED DOES NOT HAVE TO REMOVE THE OLD SHELL BRA.

SO YOU COULD BUILD A NEW HALF OF FACILITY AND THE NEW AGRILIFE LIFE STUFF AND NOT TEAR DOWN THE SHELBURNE UNTIL AFTER THAT IS FUNCTIONAL.

SO THE KIDS WON'T BE LOSING ANY TIME.

IT KEEPS GOING, IT KEEPS IT GOING.

THE COLOR THERE, THE GREEN OR THE RED, THOSE ARE MOVEABLE BLEACHERS.

SO, UM, AND SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THOSE IDEAS THAT I'VE, SO BASICALLY IT GOES INTO WHERE THE OTHER PART FROM MEETING WITH, UM, NOVEMBER TO NOW, UM, WE ASKED A LOT OF PEOPLE, UH, WE TALKED TO, UH, TAYLOR COUNTY.

UM, THEY HAVE A VERY SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM THERE PLUS ALSO, UH, TALKING WITH GLENN, UH, PREFERRED.

SO HERE'S SOME THINGS YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE DAILY OPERATIONS OF THE FACILITIES.

THAT'S THE SCHEDULING OF THE FACILITIES THAT ARE HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.

WHO'S GOING TO BE DOING THAT.

THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO FALL ON US, CAUSE WE'RE BASICALLY DOING IT RIGHT NOW FOR THE SHOW BOARD BECAUSE JACKIE, OUR SECRETARY IS ACTUALLY ON THE SHOW BOARD, UH, THE CLEANUP AND THE SETUP OF THE FACILITIES AND THE RENTALS PHASE ONE IS GOING TO HAVE TO RELY BACK ON, UH, COUNTY SERVICES UNTIL THE NEED ARISES TO ACTUALLY HIRE INDIVIDUAL STAFFING.

AND THAT'S WHERE, WHAT TOMMY WAS TALKING TO YOU PREVIOUSLY ABOUT BEFORE IS HAVING THE SUSTAINABILITY.

WHEN WE BUILD IT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP IT RUNNING.

WE HAVE TO MAKE MONEY ON IT.

I KNOW IT'S FOR THE YOUTH OF THE COUNTY, BUT EVENTUALLY SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE, IT HAS TO START SUSTAINING ITSELF.

SO WITH THAT PHASE TWO WOULD BE FACILITIES STAFF.

THERE MIGHT BE SOME ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT NEEDED, PHASE ONE, WE DO NEED A TRACTOR AND A GOOD SET OF FORKS TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE THE PANELS.

THEY ARE AN INVESTMENT TO THE COUNTY, UM, TO WHERE WE CAN MOVE THEM AROUND WITHOUT DAMAGING THEM.

SO WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID, I CAN SHOW YOU NOW SOME WORKING PLANTS.

THESE ARE THE BUILDING THAT WE DESIGNED OR THAT GLEN DESIGNED BASICALLY CAME FROM WHAT HE HAS HEARD.

AND WE GAVE HIM FROM ALL THE MEETINGS FROM LAST SUMMER TO NOW ALL THE IDEAS, UH, WE ACTUALLY GOT NUMBERS OF THE JACKPOTS THAT ARE HANDLING AND ARE HAVING RIGHT NOW.

HE SAYS THAT HE KNOWS THAT THE LIVESTOCK JACKPOTS ARE GOING TO GROW BECAUSE KAUFFMAN IS BEING WELL-KNOWN AS A GOOD PLACE TO GET HERE BECAUSE OF ALL OF OUR HIGHWAY SYSTEMS. SO, UM, ALSO WITH THAT BEING SAID, IT WOULD JUST OPEN UP LOTS OF POSSIBILITIES FOR THE CITY AND THE COUNTY.

SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS, YOU SEE IT'S USABLE BY EVERYONE.

WHAT YOU SEE THERE IS BASICALLY THE OUTLINE IN THE, OF WHAT IS A BUILDING, THE SAME AS WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR, UM, THAT WAS BUILT UP IN WYOMING.

THE PICTURE YOU SEE IS THE WHOLE ENTIRE FLOOR IS SEMEN.

EVERYTHING THAT YOU SEE IN THAT PICTURE IS PORTABLE.

IT CAN BE PICKED UP MOVED, AND IF YOU WANT TO MOVE IT OUT OF THE WAY, UM, IT'S SO USABLE.

WHAT THEY DO UP IN, UH, UP IN, UH, WYOMING IS DURING THE WINTER TIME, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A DRIVE-IN THEATERS.

AND SO, UM, THEY'RE ALSO, YOU COULD, UH, THERE'S UM, PICTURE THAT YOU'RE SEEING, YOU CAN SEE WHERE 10 BY 10 STALLS FOR VENDORS, CRAFT BARS, LOCAL SWAP SHOPS.

UM, WE COULD HAVE CONCERTS.

WE KEPT GRADUATIONS.

WE HAVE CONFERENCES IN THERE.

YOU WIPE THAT CEMENT FLOOR CLEAN AND YOU CAN DO ALMOST ANYTHING.

NO, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THOUGH, THAT THAT, THAT LAYOUT RIGHT THERE IS, IS WE GO THE INITIAL PHASE ONE PHASE TWO.

IF YOU GO WITH A COMBINED, YOU'RE KNOCKING IT DOWN 16,000 SQUARE FEET TO 70,000 SQUARE FEET.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THAT TAN AREA ON THE RIGHT, IT SPLITS IT ALMOST IN HALF AND YOU LOSE PROBABLY HALF OF THE AWNING ON EITHER SIDE.

SO, BUT THAT YOU CAN DO THAT WHEN YOU DO, WHEN YOU CONTINUE THE BUILDINGS LIKE THE OTHER, YOU CAN MAKE UP THAT LOSS, RIGHT.

WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO REDO THE, I WANTED IT TO BE EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND THAT THE DRAWING THAT I'M SHOWING IN THAT SLIDE, WHERE IT SHOWS THE RENA SETUP, HE WANTED ME TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE GO WITH THE COMBINED PHASE ONE OR TWO, HE WANTED EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND UPFRONT THAT IT'D BE A LITTLE SMALLER.

AND HE SHOWED ME ABOUT HOW IT LOOKED LIKE THAT HE WAS VERY ADAMANT THAT HE WANTED ME TO PUT THAT FORWARD TO YOU ALL.

SO IF WE GO ONTO THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, IT JUST SHOWS YOU THE MO THE MULTI-USE FACILITY.

UM, LIKE I SAID, CAR SHOW DRIVE IN THEATERS.

IT'S ALMOST ENDLESS WHAT WE COULD DO.

SO IS THAT THE, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA, LIKE, I THINK THAT'S A REALLY INNOVATIVE IDEA TO THINK ABOUT GRADUATIONS, BECAUSE WE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY OUT OF THE COUNTY, YOU KNOW, DO WE KNOW WHAT SORT OF CAPACITY THAT WOULD PROVIDE FOR US FOUR, 2000? SO THAT'S EITHER IN BLEACHERS OR THEY HAVE TABLES AND CHAIRS.

AND SO, UM, IN ONE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SLIDE BEFORE THAT THE LITTLE GREEN BOXES, THOSE ARE MOVEABLE, UM, THOSE ARE ALL MOVEABLE, UH, BLEACHERS.

THE ONES IN RED ARE THE LONGER BLEACHERS.

SO EVERYTHING IN

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YOU CAN MOVE WHEREVER YOU WANT.

GOT IT.

GOOD DEAL.

THINKING THEY'RE EASILY, UH, THEY'RE EASILY STORED UP AGAINST THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE POPPED WITH BORDERLINE ON THAT YOU BALANCE.

NO, NO, THIS WILL NOT BE ONE OF THOSE TYPES OF SITUATIONS.

YOU WANT TO FEEL LIKE YOU'RE TEXTING YOUR LIFE AT RISK, TRYING TO CLIMB ON THEM.

NO.

AND SO, UM, BUT YEAH, THOSE ARE ALL PORTABLE.

THAT'S WHY, BUT THERE ALSO BE TABLES AND CHAIRS FOR THE FLOOR, UM, FOR THOSE OF SEATING ARRANGEMENTS.

SO IT MAKES IT ALL THAT.

SO IF WE GO ONTO THE NEXT SLIDE WHERE WE HAVE THE PHASED APPROACH, SO THAT, YEAH, THAT'S FINE.

UH, SO THERE'S A PHASED APPROACH JUST TO BUILD IN THE BEGINNING TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL EXPANDED PROGRAMS TO THE COUNTY THAT JUST KIND OF LETS US DO THINGS IN STAGES.

SO WITH A PHASING ALLOWS TO DETERMINE THE STAFFING AND RENTAL EQUIPMENT, YOU KNOW, WE MAY GET INTO SOMETHING AND REALIZE, AND THEN NEXT PHASE, HEY, WE FORGOT SOMETHING OR WE'RE GROWING FASTER THAN WHAT WE THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO DO.

KIND OF GIVES US, GIVES US A CHANCE TO KIND OF PLAN THINGS OUT ALLOWS FOR THAT GRADUAL INCREASE OF OPERATIONS IS LESS THE IMPACT OF THE BUDGET YEAR TO YEAR, UM, MAJOR PROJECT OBJECTIVES.

TO US, IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE DO IN AGRILIFE.

WE TRY TO BE AS PHYSICALLY RESPONSIBLE AS WE CAN.

AND AGAIN, JUST THAT FLEXIBILITY OF THE FACILITY, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE WHAT THAT MULTIPURPOSE BUILDING CAN, CAN DO.

UH, SO HAS ENDLESS POSSIBILITIES, UM, FOR THE COUNTY.

EVERYTHING THAT YOU SEE IN THIS PRESENTATION HAS BEEN MEETING WITH COMMUNITY PEOPLE WITH THE LEADERS, WITH PEOPLE ACROSS THE BOARD, THROUGH KAUFFMAN, AT EDC, JUST TRY AND FIND OUT PEOPLE HOW WE, HOW COULD WE MAKE IT THE MOST MULTI-FUNCTIONAL PROGRAM AREA FOR COUNTY SINCE WE ARE THE CENTER OF THE COUNTY, UH, WHAT KIND OF CONVERSATIONS HAVE YOU ALL HAD WITH TAYLOR COUNTY OR, OR JUST, I HAPPEN TO KNOW RACHEL PERSONALLY, UM, MY HUSBAND AND I DO LOTS OF HORSE SHOWS OUT THERE.

AND SO YOU'RE REALLY FAMILIAR WITH THEIR FACILITY.

WE GO OUT THERE ALL THE TIME.

THEIR FACILITY, THEY HAVE IS WAY BIGGER THAN WHAT WE NEED.

UM, BUT IT'S SO MULTIFUNCTIONAL.

UH, WHEN WE GO OUT THERE, WE JUST USE THE, UH, THE ONE, THE BIGGEST NEWEST, UH, ARENA AREA.

CAUSE WE CAN BASICALLY SET UP TWO HORSE SHOW ARENAS WITH A WARMUP IN BETWEEN AND ALL THE SIDES DOWN, ONE SIDE, ALL THE STALLS DOWN ONE SIDE, BUT THEY CAN ALSO CLEARED ALL THE WAY OUT.

THEY'VE ACTUALLY HAD SOME BMX BIKE RACING'S IN THERE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

I'M STILL STUCK ON ROBIN THEATER.

WHEN HE TOLD US THAT WE'RE LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE, THEN I HAD TO STOP AND THINK THAT BUILDING THEY HAVE IN WYOMING IS ABLE TO BE ENCLOSED.

I MEAN, THERE THEY'RE ALL THE CARS ENROLLED, YOU KNOW, ROLL THE DOORS DOWN, BUT YOU HAVE TO THINK IN WYOMING DURING THE WINTER, THEY CAN STILL USE IT BECAUSE THEY ARE ABLE TO THE POPULATION MIGHT'VE BEEN 50.

AND NOW THE PICTURE ALSO THE CHILD SITTING IN THE DEAL, THIS, THIS IS TOTALLY ENCLOSED IN THE BUILDING THAT IT'S A SIGNING IT'S OPEN, IT'S OPEN AIR.

THAT'S CORRECT.

WITH BIG FANS, RIGHT? YEAH.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AIR CONDITIONED, BUT IT'S GONNA BE WELL-VENTILATED LADY WITH HIGH CEILINGS AND STATS BECAUSE REALLY THAT'S THE KIND OF THE CURSE.

WHAT WE HAVE NOW IS YES.

YEAH, NO IT'S HIGH, VERY HIGH.

SAME WITH THE CIRCULATING FANS ALREADY.

IT'S GOING TO BE WELL-VENTILATED OKAY.

QUESTIONS.

THEY DIDN'T HAVE A QUESTION TOO.

AND I KNOW YOU'VE MENTIONED IT, BUT DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY PROJECTION ABOUT WHAT SORT OF AT ITS OPTIMUM? UH, WHICHEVER WAY WE GO, WHAT SORT OF STAFFING? UH, ADDITIONAL COUNTY STAFFING WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO BE APPLIED HERE.

IF WE USE, UM, HENDERSON COUNTY AS AN EXAMPLE, THEY HAVE THREE, THREE, BUT YOU'RE LOOKING AT A COMPLEX.

THAT'S GOT WHAT? FOUR ARENAS.

UM, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY COMPLEX.

UH, THAT WOULD BE, I THINK, WAY ON DOWN THE ROAD BEFORE WE GOT TO THAT POINT.

YOUR STEPS IN FOR THE DAY.

UM, COULD YOU HANDLE, THE PANELS IS GOING TO BE, YOU GOT ONE ON THE TRACTOR DRIVER, THE TRACK, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A COUPLE PEOPLE ON THE GROUND RIGHT NOW.

YOU ALSO HAVE PART-TIME HELP, BUT YOU DO GET SKILLED, PART-TIME HELP OR YOU JUST GET PART-TIME HELP.

I KNOW, LIKE OUT AT TAYLOR COUNTY, WHEN WE GO OUT TO DO THE HORSE SHOWS, UM, IT'S REALLY GREAT BECAUSE THEY HAVE A REALLY GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

AND SO WE'LL TELL THEM HOW MANY WE NEED, THEY COME OUT.

SO WHEN IT COMES TO MOVING THE ARENAS AROUND ANY TYPE OF THAT EQUIPMENT, I'M NOT PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT, BY THE WAY.

UM, WE HAVE ALL THOSE GUYS TO COME HELP AND SO WE CAN GET ARENA SET UP PRETTY QUICKLY.

AND, UM, THAT'S JUST HOW TAYLOR COUNTY AND SOMETIMES DOES HENDERSON COUNTY STILL DO THAT HINDERS.

THAT IS, AS YOU HAVE A PANDEMIC COME IN AND YOU'VE GOT THE COMMISSIONERS OUT THERE SETTING UP PANELS, BUT THAT WAS THE PEOPLE THAT YOU THOUGHT WERE GOING TO WORK.

WE'D GET YOUR STEPS IN, GET

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TH TH UH, JACKIE ALREADY.

I MEAN, YOU'RE ALREADY DOING SOME OF THE WORK.

SHE DOES ALL THE SCHEDULING.

SO SHE'S, SO THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE HAS ALREADY, ALREADY, AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'VE, WE'VE HAD THE GOOD, FORTUNATE NATURE OF, WE KNEW EXACTLY HOW MANY SHOWS HAVE BEEN OUT THERE OR EVENTS.

HOW MANY HAVE BEEN THERE? UH, ATTENDANCE WISE IS JACKIE AND SHARON KEEP IMMACULATE NOTES, BUT THAT'S BEEN INTEGRAL FOR US.

AND I THINK THAT WILL CONTINUE IN THE NEW FACILITY UNTIL WE GET TO THE POINT THAT SAY, OKAY, THIS IS, THIS IS GETTING A LITTLE BIT BIGGER THAN WHAT WE THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE.

AGAIN, THAT'S PROJECTING ON DOWN THE ROAD.

WHAT'S GREAT TO HAVE THAT DATA AND MAKING DECISIONS.

SURE, ABSOLUTELY.

SO, OKAY.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A QUESTION FOR THEM? GREAT WORK.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING MORE.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

MOVING ON TO ITEM EIGHT, REGULAR SMITH DISCUSSING CONSIDER APPROVAL OF QUOTE CASEY E R P MUNIES FROM TYLER TECHNOLOGIES FOR TYLER S A S UNRELATED SERVICES UTILIZING SOURCE.

[8. Raylan Smith; Discuss and consider approval of quote KC-ERP-Munis from Tyler Technologies for Tyler SaaS & Related Services; utilizing Sourcewell Contract #090320-TTI.]

WELL CONTRACT 9 0 3, 3 20 DTI.

IS THAT HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO HELP YOU? YEAH, YEAH, IT'S POOREST IT.

UM, I'M HERE HOPING TO GET A FEW EXTRA BONUS POINTS WITH THE COUNTY AUDITOR WE'VE BEEN WORKING PROBABLY THE LAST 60 DAYS AS SEEMS TO BE THE GOING RATE RIGHT NOW FOR GETTING PROJECTS AND BUDGETS TOGETHER.

WE DEVELOPED A COMMITTEE BETWEEN THE IT DEPARTMENT, AUDITOR, HR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, FIRE MARSHALL, ALSO KCSO.

UM, WE HAVE COME INTO A SITUATION WHERE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO SWITCH OVER OUR NEW FINANCIAL SOFTWARE AND THE BEST SOLUTION, THE, UM, PROGRAMS THAT WE SET THROUGH WHERE TYLER SERVICES, BECAUSE THEY ARE CURRENTLY SERVICING OUR COURTS JPS AND THEY ARE ALREADY INTEGRATED INTO SO MANY OF OUR DEPARTMENTS.

SO THE THOUGHT PROCESS WAS TO INTEGRATE THOSE DEPARTMENTS IN WITH FINANCIALS, WHICH WOULD BE OBVIOUSLY VERY BENEFICIAL ON THE TREASURER, AS WELL AS THE AUDITOR SIDE.

THERE'S A HUGE PIECE OF THIS THAT IS ALSO HR AND HR MANAGEMENT, UM, ASSET MANAGEMENT.

THERE'S A WORK ORDER SYSTEM BETWEEN THIS, UM, WHILE WE WERE SPEAKING, UM, CASH BALANCES AND CONTINGENCIES EARLIER, I DO WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT DURING BUDGET, THERE WAS AN EARMARKED AMOUNT FOR THE EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS TOWER FOR KSL.

WE ARE STARTING THOSE MEETINGS WITH THE VENDORS THIS WEEK.

UH, OBVIOUSLY WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO EXPAND ALL OF THAT BUDGET THIS FISCAL YEAR.

AND SO AFTER TALKING WITH THE AUDITOR, WE THOUGHT THAT THIS MAY BE A SOLUTION FOR THE INITIAL SETUP FOR TODDLER SERVICES ON THE FINANCIAL SIDE.

THE REASON THAT I BRING THIS TO YOU TODAY AS A FISCAL YEAR 2022 EXPENSE, IS BECAUSE OF THAT OCTOBER ONE DEADLINE, TO TRY TO HAVE A FINANCIAL SYSTEM ESTABLISHED WELL ENOUGH FOR THE AUDITOR TO BEGIN HER NEW BUDGET YEAR.

UM, I INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET, THE TOTAL TIMELINE, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS AT LEAST A TWO YEAR PROJECT.

WHENEVER YOU LOOK AT BRINGING IN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, ALSO ALL OF YOUR WORK ORDER SYSTEMS. UM, BUT CLEARLY THE MAIN PROJECT WOULD BE FINANCIALS AND THEN EVENTUALLY HR, JUST SO WE DO NOT LOSE THAT PAYROLL SYSTEM.

UM, THESE ARE QUOTES AND THIS INITIAL QUOTE FOR THE 1.3 IS TO HAVE, UM, TYLER, TYLER, FULLY STAFF, THE INTEGRATION FOR THE BUDGET AND FINANCIAL SIDE, SIMPLY BECAUSE OF OUR TIMELINE FOR OCTOBER ONE, THIS TOTAL AMOUNT WILL EVENTUALLY BE REDUCED BECAUSE AFTER FINANCIALS ARE IN, WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO MORE OF OUR INTEGRATION IN HOUSE.

UM, THEY WERE JUST PROJECTING INITIAL STAFF TO US GET THIS STARTED.

SO, UM, KAREN HELPED ME, WE'VE SAT THROUGH MULTIPLE DEMOS.

WE HAVE TALKED IN ASK QUESTIONS.

ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS COUNTY TREASURER HAS ALSO SET IN ON THE HR SIDE.

UM, I THINK EVERY DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN FAIRLY IMPRESSED WITH WHAT THIS SOFTWARE CAN PROVIDE AND WE SEEM PRETTY POSITIVE ABOUT THE INTEGRATION SYSTEM.

ONE PIECE OF THIS COULD POSSIBLY BE ANOTHER LARGE DEPARTMENT, BUT HE IS STILL LOOKING AT OTHER OPTIONS, BUT THIS WILL DEFINITELY CONNECT YOUR FINANCIALS TO MOST OF YOUR EXISTING DEPARTMENTS.

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I MEAN, WE HAVE THE PEOPLE THAT WILL HAVE A MAINTENANCE CONTRACT WITH THEM, BUT DO WE HAVE SOMEBODY IN HOUSE THAT CAN SOLVE THE PROBLEMS FAST? YES.

SO IT IS WORKING.

IN FACT, THEY WERE AT A CONFERENCE LAST WEEK AND WE'LL ALSO THERE'S TRAINING INVOLVED WITHIN THIS BUDGET.

UM, THERE'LL BE TRAINERS AND THEN TRAINERS WITHIN EACH DEPARTMENT.

AND SO WE WILL ROLL OUT A VERY ROBUST TRAINING SYSTEM AS EACH OF THESE MODULES COME ON BOARD.

BEST THING IS, UM, HAVING THE TWO YEAR OF ROLLING OUT THE MODULES, WE'RE ROLLING THEM OUT BY IMPORTANCE.

AND SO ONCE WE GET FINANCIALS UP AND RUNNING, THEN IT'S A MATTER OF BRINGING ON SMALLER DEPARTMENTS AND MAKING SURE THOSE INTEGRATE COMPLETELY.

SO THAT'S WHY THEY DID GIVE US THE 24 MONTH TIMELINE FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT TO TAKE PLACE.

THIS INCLUDES INTEGRATION AND ALL OLD DATA FROM STW.

IT INCLUDES ALL OF THE OLD DATA RUNNING UP FROM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, WHICH I KNOW MONIQUE HAS HAD A HARD TIME FINDING SOFTWARE THAT WOULD BRING HER DATA OVER.

SO EACH ONE OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS MET AND HAD THEIR OWN MEETING WITH TYLER AND WENT OVER THEIR CURRENT SOFTWARE NEEDS.

AND SO THIS QUOTE IS BASED ON WHAT TYLER WOULD HAVE TO DO TO ROLL OVER OUR OLD DATA.

THIS IS GOING TO BE A, THIS WILL BE A, I MEAN, IT WILL BE HARD.

UH, I THINK HAVING TYLER TECHNOLOGIES DO A LOT OF THE CARE, A LOT OF THE LOAD IS A LITTLE BIT LIKE THIS'LL BE LIKE THE PREFERRED THING.

IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE SOMEBODY THAT, YOU KNOW, DONE THIS OVER AND OVER AND THEY, IT, IT WON'T BE NEW TO THEM.

UH, AND I'M SURE THAT KAREN AND HER TEAM COULD DO THEIR ACCOUNTING PART OF IT, BUT IT'S, IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF TIME AND A LOT OF WORK BETTER TO HAVE SOMEBODY HELP WITH THE HEAVY LIFTING.

SO IT'S GOING TO MAKE A, IT'S GOING TO MAKE A TON OF DIFFERENCE IN THIS COUNTY ARE PREPARED FOR CORE FINANCIALS TO BE ABLE TO WORK THE MONTHS OF MAY THROUGH OCTOBER.

SO IT WOULD BE A VERY QUICK CONTRACT FOR THEM, ESPECIALLY JUMPING ON CORE FINANCIALS, UM, TO HAVE HER READY OCTOBER ONE, TO RUN, TO ROLL OVER THE NEW BUDGET.

UM, NEXT WE MIGHT LOOK AT SOME OF THE SMALLER DEPARTMENTS SUCH AS DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, AND THEN, UH, HUMAN CAPITAL IS THE NEXT BIG PIECE, BUT OBVIOUSLY PAYROLL WOULD BE FIRST SINCE IT TIES DIRECTLY IN WITH FINANCIALS.

HR, UH, WAS LIKE 20, 24, BUT WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE TO BRIDGE BETWEEN THEN AND THERE.

THE PAYROLL THING IS REALLY ALMOST, IT'S ALMOST INDEPENDENT OF THE HR MODULE, RIGHT? OKAY.

THE WAY THEY EXPLAINED THE FINANCIALS WOULD BE READY ON THE FINANCIAL CORP SIDE, BUT THE HUMAN CAPITAL, AS FAR AS REPORTING OUT, UM, TO OTHER ENTITIES, THEY WANTED TO DO THAT ON THE QUARTER.

AND SO THEIR GOAL WOULD BE 20, 24 TO ACTUALLY GET TO START DOING THE OUTSIDE REPORTING.

SO THE ACTUAL LINE ITEMS THAT WE USE AND FROM THE OLD KALLER TECHNOLOGY SYSTEM, WHEN WE CONVERTED, SO IT'S AN EASY CONVERSION BACK.

IT'S JUST GETTING THE HISTORY THERE AND MAKING SURE EVERYTHING'S TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT AND BALANCE.

AND IF WE'RE OKAY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS CONTRACT, OBVIOUSLY WE'LL KEEP YOU UPDATED ON SCHEDULES, MAKING SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT FINANCIALS IS GOING TO NEED.

AND WHEN, IN WHAT ORDER FOR RECONCILIATION PURPOSES QUESTIONS.

THEN, UH, WHAT'S BEFORE US SHOULD BE, I WOULD BE LOOKING FOR EMOTION TO APPROVE A QUOTE APPROVED QUOTE, CASEY E R P MUNIES.

THAT'S THE TYLER TECHNOLOGIES, UM, S A S AND RELATED SERVICES PROGRAM.

WE'RE UTILIZING A SOURCE WILL CONTRACT 9 0 3, 3 20 TTI.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT I'LL MAKE THE MOTION WHERE THAT MOTION FOR APPROVAL FROM COMMISSIONER CATES? IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER HUNT, DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

SO NOW THE TREASURER GONNA PRESENT FOR ACCEPTANCE THE TREASURES MONTHLY REPORT FOR APRIL MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, WE, UH, STARTED THE MONTH OF APRIL WITH $40 MILLION

OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU, RAELYNN.

UH, YOU'RE WELCOME.

UH,

[9. Chuck Mohnkern; Present/Accept the Treasurer's monthly report for April 2022.]

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IN OUR GENERAL FUND RECEIPTS DURING THE MONTH WHERE 1.6 MILLION DISBURSEMENTS WERE 7.1 MILLION.

SO OUR ENDING CASH BALANCE AND FUND 10 WAS 34.5 MILLION, WHICH WAS UP OVER LAST YEAR'S OF 29.8.

WE EARN INTEREST IN AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK OF $4,034.

UH, WE ARE AN INTEREST TO TEXT POOL IN TEXAS CLASS OF 35,301 FOR A TOTAL OF $39,335.

THE TOTAL INVESTED IN TEXT POOL AND TEXAS CLASS IS $91,401,137.

WE'RE EARNING AN AVERAGE YIELD ON TEXT POOL.

NOW AT 0.4, FOUR, FOUR, 3%.

THAT'S UP CONSIDERABLY FROM LAST YEAR IS 0.083%.

THE AVERAGE YIELD ON TEXAS CLASS IS 0.472%, WHICH IS UP OVER LAST YEAR IS 0.08, FOUR 0% ARE A TOTAL COUNTY FUNDS IN AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK, 57.3 MILLION.

THE, UH, VALUE OF, UH, PLEDGED SECURITIES AT THE END OF THE MONTH, 224.8 MILLION.

SO WE'RE VERY WELL COLLATERALIZED.

OUR PERCENTAGE OF OUR FUNDS INVESTED 61.44% PERCENTAGE.

UH, THE SITTING AT AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK IS 38.56.

WE WROTE 387 RECEIPTS DURING THE MONTH OF APRIL FOR A TOTAL OF 2.8, SIX, $8 MILLION.

ANY QUESTIONS, QUESTIONS FOR MR. MANCHA? NO, IF NOT FOR NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE TREASURER'S MONTHLY REPORT FOR APRIL 20 TO MAKE A MOTION? WE HAVE MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND ONE COMMISSIONER IN CAGE DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU, SIR.

[10. Commissioner Hunt; Discuss/Consider approval of the 2022/2023 Annual Road Report for Road and Bridge Pet. 1.]

COMMISSIONER CAGE DISCUSS CONSIDER CITY OF CRANWELL TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE PRESENTATION IN REQUEST.

ON TO ITEM 10, COMMISSIONER HUNT, DISCUSS, CONSIDER FOR APPROVAL, THE 2223 ANNUAL ROAD REPORT FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE PRECINCT ONE.

UH, THIS IS JUST OUR ROAD REPORT THAT I WANT TO SUBMIT TO THE COUNTY CLERK TO BE FILED AND ALSO GETS TO BE PUT ON THE WEBSITE.

SO WE ALL DECIDED TO CONTINUE DOING THIS, EVEN THOUGH THE STATE HAS SAID WE DON'T, BUT THAT WE HAVE RECORDS, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S IT.

I MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, COMMISSIONER HOLLAND MAKES A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT 20 22 3 ROAD REPORT.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE POSE.

NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES

[11. Commissioner Cates; Discuss/Consider City of Crandall Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone (TIRZ) presentation and request.]

YES, JUDGE WE'RE, UH, BEEN IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE CITY OF CRANDALL AND, UH, SOME ASSOCIATED DEVELOPERS.

AND WE HAVE, UH, A CITY MANAGER FROM CRANDALL HERE AND, AND HER TEAM TO MAKE A PRESENTATION FOR THE COUNTY TO CONSIDER ENTERING INTO A TERMS AGREEMENT.

SO IF YOU GUYS HAVE COME FORWARD, OKAY, WHAT ARE SOME FILM IF SOMEONE DID GET IT? WELL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE TODAY.

MY NAME IS NATALIE MOORE.

I'M WITH DAVID PETTIT, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OUT OF FORT WORTH.

UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY OF CRANDALL.

UM, MS. JANA IS HERE AND, UM, THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM, UH, FROM CAMBRIDGE HOMES THAT IS DEVELOPING WITHIN THE TOURS.

AND WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE HERE FROM, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM AS WELL.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, HE WOULD BE HAPPY TO SPEAK TO THEM.

AND WE ALSO HAVE THE ENGINEER HERE AND, BUT I'M HERE TO SPEAK TO THE, UH, TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE THAT WAS CREATED WITHIN THE CITY OF, UH, CRANDALL EARLIER THIS YEAR.

UH, WE'RE HERE TO REQUEST THE, THAT KAUFMAN COUNTY CONSIDER PARTICIPATION, UM, IN, WITHIN THE TERS, UH, ALONGSIDE THE CITY.

UM, HOPEFULLY YOU GOT A RECEIVED THIS PRESENTATION.

I BELIEVE IT WAS SENT OUT HOPEFULLY YESTERDAY, BUT THE PURPOSE OF MY PRESENTATION IS TO GO OVER THE TERS REVIEW.

SOME OF THE PROJECT COSTS, UM, TALK ABOUT THE INNER LOCAL PARTICIPATION, AND THEN I REVIEW THE REVENUE THAT IS BEING PROJECTED TO BE GENERATED WITHIN THE TERS.

I'LL I'LL BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT SOME NEXT STEPS AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY.

AS I SAID TO FIELD ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TERMS, THE PROJECTS THAT ARE, UM, BEING ENVISIONED TO OCCUR WITHIN THE ZONE.

AND, UM, AND AGAIN, WE HAVE SOME MORE TECHNICAL KNOWLEDGE HERE IF, IF WE HAVE TO GET INTO THOSE QUESTIONS.

UM, SO THERESE NUMBER THREE, YOU CAN SEE HERE, THE BOUNDARIES OUTLINED, HOPEFULLY IN RED, UM, IT'S APPROXIMATELY

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602 ACRES IN THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE CITY OF CRANDALL.

AS I MENTIONED, IT WAS CREATED IN 2022, WHICH MEANS THAT THE BASE VALUE OF THE TERS IS ESTABLISHED AS OF JANUARY 1ST, 2022.

UM, THE PURPOSE OF THE TERM IS TO ENCOURAGE PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL YIELD ADDITIONAL TAX REVENUE TO ALL OF THE TAXING JURISDICTIONS, INCLUDING THE COUNTY ANTICIPATED DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE CHARS INCLUDES A MIX OF USES, INCLUDING SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL, SENIOR LIVING, AND COMMERCIAL USES.

UH, WHAT WE DO AT DAVID PETTIT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS WE WORK ON CREATING WHAT WE BELIEVE ARE GOING TO BE THE PROJECTIONS WORKING IN TANDEM WITH THE DEVELOPER AS TO HOW PROPERTY WILL DEVELOP WITHIN THE ZONE, BASED ON WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING FOR THE PROPERTY WITHIN THE AREA.

WE'RE ESTIMATING THAT THERE WILL BE ABOUT $619 MILLION IN TOTAL TAXABLE VALUE.

UM, JUST FOR REFERENCE A 2021 VALUE OF THE PROPERTY WITHIN THE ZONE WAS JUST OVER 2 MILLION.

SO THAT'S AN INCREDIBLE INCREASE IN TAXABLE VALUE PROJECTED OVER THE LIFE OF THE TERM.

THE PROJECT COSTS WITHIN THE ZONE ARE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS TO SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT, TO BE MADE THROUGHOUT THE TOURS.

THE DEVELOPER CAMBRIDGE HOMES IS GOING TO PROVIDE A RIGHT OF WAY AND CONSTRUCT A FOUR LANE DIVIDED ROAD FROM US HIGHWAY 1 75 TO FM 3 0 3 9, IT'S A 7 41 EXTENSION EAGLE CREST PARKWAY IS GOING TO PROVIDE MAJOR ACCESS FOR THE AREA.

SO WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

I THINK TO NOTE ON THIS IS THAT YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THIS MAP, HOPEFULLY YOU'LL SEE THAT THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF WHAT'S HIGHLIGHTED ON THIS MAP.

AND I, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND JUST KIND OF INCREASE THE, BUT YOU CAN SEE HERE THIS SOUTHERN PORTION, THAT'S THE THAT'S TERS NUMBER THREE THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING TODAY.

UM, BUT JUST NORTH OF THAT, THERE'S ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT.

THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE MADE TO EAGLE CREST PARKWAY, UM, WITHIN TERMS, NUMBER THREE ARE GOING TO FACILITATE 350,000 SQUARE FEET OF FUTURE RETAIL IN AND AROUND THE TERS.

SO THAT'S REALLY GOING TO OPEN UP.

UM, I KNOW, UM, MR. JIM MIRA, WHO HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT IS CURRENTLY AT A RETAIL CONFERENCE RIGHT NOW.

AND HE TOLD US THAT BECAUSE OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE OCCURRING, UM, WITHIN THE ZONE, UM, HE'S BEEN ABLE TO FACILITATE MEETINGS WITH SOME MAJOR RETAILERS, UM, THAT ARE REALLY ENCOURAGED BY THE FACT THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A FOUR WAY STOP.

AND THERE'S GOING TO BE QUITE A BIT OF ADDITIONAL ACCESS AND MOVEMENT, UM, WHICH WOULD ALLOW FOR THAT ADDITIONAL 350,000 SQUARE FEET OF FUTURE RETAIL, WHICH AS WE ALL KNOW, WILL THEN INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF SALES TAX.

SO YOU'RE ABLE TO RETAIN WITHIN THE AREA VERSUS HAVING TO GO ELSEWHERE.

UM, AGAIN, THIS IS A, A MAP THAT SHOWS THE IMPROVEMENTS.

UH, YOU CAN SEE WITHIN THE ZONE THERE'S, UH, IN ADDITION TO THE EAGLE CREST PARKWAY THAT I'VE ALREADY TOUCHED ON THERE'S WATER, SEWER, AND STORM IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE MADE IN CONJUNCTION WITH EAGLE CREST PARKWAY.

SO THE PARTICIPATION ASSUMPTIONS THAT WE MODELED IN THE PROJECT AND FINANCING PLAN, THE PRELIMINARY PROJECT AND FINANCING PLAN THAT WAS INCLUDED AS PART OF THE CREATION ORDINANCE.

UM, THE CITY OF CRANDALL IS PARTICIPATING AT 52.5% OF THE REAL PROPERTY INCREMENT.

WE'RE HERE TODAY TO DISCUSS A REQUEST FROM KAUFMAN COUNTY TO CONTRIBUTE 50% OF YOUR REAL PROPERTY INCREMENT GENERATED FROM THE MNO PORTION OF YOUR TAX RATE.

THE TERM IS 40 YEARS.

SO THE TERM, THE TERMS WOULD TERMINATE IN DECEMBER 31ST, 2062 WITH THE FINAL YEAR'S TAX TO BE COLLECTED BY SEPTEMBER ONE OF THE FOLLOWING YEAR, THE TERS SHALL TERMINATE AT SUCH TIME SUBSEQUENT TO THE ISSUANCE OF TAX INCREMENT BONDS, IF ANY, THAT ALL PROJECT COSTS, TAX INCREMENT, BONDS NOTES, AND OTHER OBLIGATIONS OF THE ZONE AND INTEREST THERE ON HAVE BEEN PAID IN FULL.

SO BASICALLY YOU CAN'T TERMINATE THE TERS IF YOU HAVE OUTSTANDING OBLIGATIONS, WHICH MAKES SENSE, UM, OR IF 179 MILLION OR SO HAS BEEN COLLECTED IN THE TAX INCREMENT FUND.

NOW, WHERE DID THAT $179 MILLION NUMBER COME FROM? THAT'S THE PARTICIPATION THAT THE PROJECT AND FINANCING PLAN OUTLINES.

UM, YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT BASED ON THAT 52 AND A HALF PERCENT OF THE CITY'S A TAX INCREMENT, UH, COUPLED WITH THAT 619 MILLION AND INC UM, INCREMENTAL TAX, UH, VALUE, UH, WE'RE PROJECTING THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE $125 MILLION IN TIF INCREMENT GENERATED FROM JUST THE CITY OF CRANDALL.

IF THE COUNTY DECIDES TO MOVE FORWARD, UH, WITH THEIR PARTICIPATION, UH, AT 50% OF YOUR MNO THAT WOULD GENERATE APPROXIMATELY $54 MILLION IN TAX INCREMENT FOR THE TERRORS FOR A TOTAL OF THAT HUNDRED AND 79 MILLION.

NOW THAT 7,900,

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A HUNDRED AND $179 MILLION IN REVENUE WOULD THEN BE SPLIT INTO PROPOSED PROJECT COSTS.

UM, THAT WOULD FALL INTO THE DIFFERENT BUCKETS THAT YOU CAN SEE HERE.

WE LIKE TO CALL THIS A MENU OF ELIGIBLE OPTIONS, UH, THAT THE TERS BOARD WOULD THEN HAVE TO APPROVE, UH, TO BE SPENT ON THESE DIFFERENT PROJECT COSTS, INCLUDING WATER FACILITIES, SANITARY, SEWER, STORMWATER STREETS, OPEN SPACE, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GRANTS, AND THEN A SMALL ALLOWANCE FOR ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS.

SO AT THAT I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

THE NEXT STEPS THAT WE WOULD HAVE WOULD BE FOR TODAY TO BE, UH, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, THAT INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT THAT WOULD, UM, NOTE THAT THE COUNTY WOULD PARTICIPATE AT THAT 50% RATE FOR THE TERM OF THE TERSE.

WHO'S GOT QUESTIONS.

UH, I HAVE ONE QUESTION ABOUT THAT ROAD.

UH, WASN'T THIS ROAD, WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WERE GOING TO DO WITH BOND PHONES INITIALLY, LIKE IT'S SORT OF A BYPASS AROUND THE CITY, RIGHT? INITIALLY JUDGE THAT, UH, THE INITIAL PROPOSAL AND MAYBE JANEL, YOU WANT TO COME UP AND SPEAK TO SOME OF THIS.

UH, INITIALLY THAT WAS A, UH, PROPOSAL THAT WOULD INVOLVE THE CITY AND THE COUNTY AND TXDOT.

UM, IT WAS A PHASED APPROACH TO START WITH A TWO LANE ROAD, UH, BUT ULTIMATELY THE CITY AND ITS RESIDENTS DETERMINED THAT THE, THE, UH, THE NEED FOR WHAT WILL FUNCTION ESSENTIALLY AS A BYPASS, UH, TO RELIEVE HORRIBLE TRAFFIC CONGESTION THAT GRANVILLE IS HAVING RIGHT NOW, UH, WAS PREEMINENT.

AND, UH, SO THE PROJECT BASICALLY WAS ALTERED, UH, TO MY UNDERSTANDING, TO, TO HAVE THE DEVELOPER, UH, JUST PROCEED WITH, UM, WITH PRIVATE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS ROAD AT THE FULL FOUR LANE CAPACITY.

UH, YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

JANICE SHELTON, CITY MANAGER OF CRANDALL.

UM, YES, THIS PRODUCT IS VERY IMPORTANT AND, UH, WE FEEL THAT THE DEVELOPER COULD GET THE ROAD IN QUICKER AND, UH, IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO OUR CITIZENS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU CANNOT GET AROUND IN CRANDALL.

IF YOU'VE BEEN TO CRANDALL AT EIGHT O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING OR IN THE AFTERNOON, THE TRAFFIC, AND IT'S NOT JUST THE CITY OF CRANDALL, THERE ARE PEOPLE COMING FROM HEARTLAND THAT ARE TRYING TO GET IT INTO THE CITY, AND THIS WOULD ALLOW ACCESS TO OUR SCHOOLS.

SO WE'RE VERY IMPRESSED WITH THIS PROJECT AND THE FACT THAT, UM, IT PROVIDES MUCH NEEDED INFRASTRUCTURE THAT I THINK WOULD BENEFIT THE COUNTY AS WELL.

UM, ALSO IT'S THE GATEWAY TO KAUFMAN COUNTY, AND I THINK THIS DEVELOPMENT WITH THE COMMERCIAL IS GOING TO LOOK GREAT COMING IN AS THE FIRST THING YOU SEE IN KAUFMAN COUNTY, UH, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE, BUT WHAT WAS THE COST OF THAT ROAD WAS THAT THAT WAS LISTED ON THOSE PROJECTS, RIGHT? OR WAS JUST ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE ALTOGETHER.

AND THIS IS DEREK AND WITH CAMBRIDGE HOMES, AND I KNOW HE CAN SPEAK TO THAT COST.

HI, GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME'S DEREK REGAN WITH CAMBRIDGE HOMES.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING US TODAY.

UH, THE COST OF THAT ROAD THAT WE HAVE FIGURED RIGHT NOW IS ABOUT 9.3 MILLION, AND THAT INCLUDES THE RIGHT OF WAY.

AND THEN THE FOUR LANE CONSTRUCTION.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING THAT IN THE FIRST PHASE OF IT.

SO WE HOPE TO START THAT IN OCTOBER, AND THEN WE'D BE COMPLETE AND AROUND JULY OF 23, AND WE, UH, AS WE WERE NEGOTIATING THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF CRANDALL AND CITY COUNCIL, THAT'S WHERE THAT FOUR LANE ROAD REALLY CAME IN, BECAUSE ALL WE COULD DO IN THE BEGINNING WAS COMMIT THE TWO LANES.

WE DIDN'T REALLY KNOW WHEN THE ADDITIONAL TWO LANES WERE COMING.

THERE WAS A LOT OF TRAFFIC CONCERNS, AND THAT WAS ONE WAY THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY COMMIT TO HERE'S WHEN WE COULD START THE ROAD.

HERE'S WHEN WE CAN FINISH THE ROAD AS IF IT WAS THE CITY STANDARDS AND WE WERE PUTTING IT IN, AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE JUDGE, UH, AS PART OF OUR BOND FUNDS WORKING WITH THE INNOVATIVE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS. WE ALSO HAVE FUNDS SET ASIDE FOR MODIFICATION OF THE 7 41 BRIDGE, UH, UH, HAND-IN-HAND WITH TXDOT, UH, WHEN, AND IF THAT BECOMES NECESSARY.

SO THE COUNTY IS, UH, THE COUNTY IS ALREADY ENGAGED IN TRYING TO SUPPORT, UH, THE, THE REALLY CRITICAL NEED FOR TRAFFIC CONGESTION RELIEF UP THERE AND IN CRANDALL, UH, IT, IT IMPACTS HEARTLAND.

AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO, TO EMPHASIZE THAT, UM, AS WAS POINTED OUT EARLIER, THAT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT JUST NORTH OF THE, OF THE 7 41 OVERPASS, UH, IS, IS, UH, ALSO COMPLETELY SUPPORTED BY THIS TERM PROPOSAL.

UH, WE ANTICIPATE, UM, I THINK THE DEVELOPERS, UH, ANTICIPATE A MUCH NEEDED, UH, PROBABLY A BIG BOX GROCERY STORE UP IN THAT AREA, AS WELL AS SOME SORT OF A HOME IMPROVEMENT, UH, UH, BIG BOX HOME IMPROVEMENT FACILITY UP THERE.

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A LOT OF GOOD COMMERCIAL DESIRABLE COMMERCIAL GROWTH WILL COME FROM THIS, OUR PARTNERS, JWS WITH JIM MIRA, UM, WOULD THAT FOUR LANE INTERSECTION JUST REALLY OPENS UP THOSE, THOSE SURROUNDING CORNERS AS NATALIE BROUGHT UP.

AND JIM REALLY HAS A LOT OF INTEREST IN, UM, LIKE COMMISSIONER KATE SAID FROM SOME BIG BOX GROCERY STORES, SOME HOME IMPROVEMENT TYPE STORES, AND THEN JUST, YOU KNOW, KIND OF ALL THE RETAIL THAT COMES WITH IT, FOOD, COFFEE, THAT TYPE OF STUFF.

SO, AND THE DEVELOPERS HAVE ACQUIRED ALL THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR THE ROAD.

SO ALL OF THAT IS CLEAR SAILING AT THIS POINT.

YES.

WE CLOSED DOWN ALL THAT PROPERTY.

UM, DID ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WELL, THE BIG SALE FOR ME IS THE ROAD.

I MEAN, IF, IF YOU BUILD TWO LINES MORE THAN LIKELY IN THE YEARS AND YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, BEFORE YOU EVER GET TWO MORE, IF YOU DO.

YEP.

SO, YEAH, AND THAT WAS THE CONCERN WAS JUST THE TIMING ON WHEN ANYBODY COULD COMMIT TO THAT.

AND WE ALL KNOW THAT A STATE HIGHWAY PROJECT, A STATE PROJECT LIKE THAT CAN TAKE A LONG TIME, RIGHT.

IT WILL BE, UH, IT'LL BE A HUGE BENEFIT, AS I SAID, NOT JUST FOR TRAFFIC, BUT FOR PARENTS THAT NEED TO GET TO THE HIGH SCHOOL BECAUSE OF THIS, THIS ROAD WILL BASICALLY BE ANOTHER ACCESS, UH, PROBABLY A MAIN ACCESS FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL AND VIEW JUST A HUGE IMPROVEMENT IN A RELATIVELY SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.

AND IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT COMMUNITY.

UH, WE REALLY WORKED WITH THE CITY COUNCIL.

IT'S GOING TO BE A MIXTURE OF 50, 60, 70, AND 80 FOOT LOTS.

SO AS THAT GATEWAY TO KAUFMAN COUNTY, THAT'S GOING TO BE, UH, YOU KNOW, FIRST MOVE UP, UH, ELEVATED ENTRY LEVEL, UH, COMMUNITY AS WELL.

SO WE HAVE SOME MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE REQUIREMENTS AND, UH, SOME MINIMUM DESIGN REQUIREMENTS, MASONRY REQUIREMENTS AND ALL THAT.

SO THE, THE DEVELOPMENT, ALSO ALL OF THOSE COMBINED DEVELOPMENTS ALSO SUPPORT THE, THE INCREASE IN WATER FOR THE CITY OF CRANDALL.

SO, UH, THAT'S ALSO A HUGE BENEFIT.

UH, OKAY.

SO I GUESS A PROPER MOTION IN THIS, I'M LOOKING AT YOU.

I GUESS A PROPER MOTION WOULD BE TO, UH, AUTHORIZE OR CIVIL DEPARTMENT TO, UH, PREPARE AN INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT OR, UM, WITH ALL RESPECT, JUDGE RICHARDS, THAT'S ALREADY BEEN PREPARED.

I BELIEVE DEBBIE WORKED ON THAT.

AND SO THE PROPER MOTION BEFORE THE COURT WOULD REALLY BE DISCUSSED, CONSIDER APPROVE INTER-LOCAL AGREEMENT TO PARTICIPATE IN TAX INCREMENT, REINVESTMENT ZONE, NUMBER THREE, CITY OF CRANDALL, TEXAS.

HOW MANY HOMES ARE IN THIS 1,646, APPROXIMATELY? AND IT'S GOING TO BE AT 50% RETAIL AND 50% HOME.

UH, THE RETAIL IS PRIMARILY UP AT THE CORNER.

UM, SO IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A SHOPPING STRIP.

ONE, ONE JOB.

THIS IS MAINLY HOMES THEN.

UH, NO, IT COMES, UH, THAT'S NATALIE'S COMPUTER, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET ON THERE, BUT, UM, NO, IT ACTUALLY COMES FURTHER SOUTH.

SO THERE'S, UM, I BELIEVE JWS IS TALKING ABOUT THE MORE TRADITIONAL INTERSTATE, UH, COMMERCIAL, AND THEN IT GOES INTO SOME, UH, ADULT LIVING CARE AND SOME ADDITIONAL SERVICES AS IT GETS SOUTH.

THERE'S ALSO TALKS WITH THE CITY OF, UH, OR CRANDALL ISD ABOUT A MUCH NEEDED BUS BARN THROUGH THERE THAT WE WOULD, UH, THE GYM MIRRORS WORKING ON WITH A LAND SWAP.

AND THEN THERE'S A SLIP ROAD THAT WOULD COME THROUGH THERE THAT WOULD, UH, REALLY PROVIDE A LOT OF NEEDED ACCESS FOR, FOR THE BUSES TO TRANSFER THROUGH THERE.

UH, BUT YEAH, YOU CAN SEE PEOPLE THAT HE'S READY.

THE AREAS HIGHLIGHT THE AREAS HIGHLIGHTED HERE IN RED.

YOU CAN SEE ARE THE COMMERCIAL HERE ON THE POLICIES HERE ON THIS NORTHERN SIDE OF IT.

WE'RE HERE AND HERE.

YOU'RE CIRCLING THAT.

YOU'RE CIRCLING THAT, THAT BURGUNDY COLOR UP THERE.

OR MOM, WHATEVER.

UM, AND THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE ALL COMMERCIAL.

AND THEN ALL OF THE TAN IS 100% RESIDENTIAL WAITING DOWN THERE LIVING RIGHT.

LIVING IN ANOTHER TURF.

AND THEN, THEN THAT WHOLE GROUP DOWN THERE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO GIVE UP 50% OF THE M AND O TAX FOR 40 YEARS.

THERE'S NO RESIDENTS AT LEAST, RIGHT.

STARTING, YOU CAN SEE HERE BECAUSE IT'S ONLY A LIMITED TO THE MNO.

YOUR TOTAL TAXES GENERATED IS 157 TALKING ABOUT LIMITING YOUR PARTICIPATION TO 54.

SO THAT WOULD STILL BE A NET BENEFIT OF A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS OF TAXES THAT ARE NOT CURRENTLY BEING GENERATED TODAY.

WELL, I AM, BUT WE ALSO DON'T.

UM, HOW MANY HOMES WILL IT BE? YOU SAID 1006, 46.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN HAVE AS MANY AS FOUR OR 5,000,

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IF YOU WERE ABOUT TWO PER HOUSEHOLD.

IT WAS ABOUT 3002 PER HOUSEHOLD.

AND I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S GOING TO BE TWO BROWS.

NO, I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS BRING THIS UP.

I HAVE AN AWFUL LOT OF MY DISTRICTS, NOT ONE OF THEM APPLIED AND BIRD TARS AND FORNEY, NOT ONE OF THEM, NOT ONE OF THEM THAT WOULD GIVE BACK TAX MONEY TO THE HOME AND 40 YEARS, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA KEEP PAYING M AND O TAX 50% OF THE MONEY BACK TO THE INNER STRUCTURE, THE BUILD THIS AND AT THE ACRE COST.

SO IF YOU DIVIDE UP THE ANCHORS, WHAT Y'ALL PAID FOR IT NOW, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO SELL THE ACRE FARM FOR THE HOUSES? WELL, JUST TO CLARIFY, THE TAX REIMBURSEMENTS FROM THE TERSE, GO BACK DIRECTLY TO THE HOMEOWNERS FOR THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE, AND THAT'S JUST OFFSET THEIR TAX RATES FROM THE PIT SIDE.

SO IT'S NOT THAT THE DEVELOPER IT OFFSETS ARE MONDAYS PRE YEAH.

NOT THE COUNTY TAX.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD SAY TOO ABOUT THE, I FORGOTTEN ABOUT THAT, THAT, THAT I THINK IT'S A BIG PLUS FOR THE COUNTY THAT, THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE A PID.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE CITY LIMITS, WHICH MEANS WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE DOING LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE OTHER RELATED THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO IN OTHERS.

SO, AND THE, AND THE, AND THE TERS INCENTIVIZES, UH, EXPEDIENCY AS WELL BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT'S HOW, YOU KNOW, THE QUICKER YOU, THE QUICKER YOU BUILD THIS, THE QUICKER YOU GET PAID BACK.

SO, I MEAN, THAT'S, IT'S, UH, WELL, THE GOOD THING ABOUT A TERS TOO, IS THAT IT'S, UH, IT IS A 100% PERFORMANCE BASED, UM, SUPPORT.

SO IF, IF YOU, AND I DON'T THINK ANY OF THEM EVER LAST 40 YEARS, I KNOW THEY, THEY PUT THAT IN THERE FOR, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE THE BOND PEOPLE HAPPY.

BUT, UM, IF YOU DON'T, IF YOU DON'T SUCCESSFULLY MAKE THAT INCREMENT, YOU DON'T GET ANY MONEY, YOU BUILD THAT ROAD.

AND IF YOUR PROJECT FAILS THAT ROAD IS, IT IS A HUNDRED PERCENT BO BORN COST BY YOU.

THAT'S CORRECT.

AND THE HOMEOWNERS, I HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY ON THE CLOSING, THE PAY UP FRONT TO BE IN THERE.

INSTEAD OF BEING PERPETUALLY TAXED BY THE, BUT BENSON ATTACHED HER.

BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY DO THAT AND THEN THEY DON'T, PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT AND THEY BUY INTO IT AND THEN THEY HAVE THESE HUGE PAYMENTS AND THEY CAN'T PRETEND THEY KEEP RENEWING THE DEBT RIGHT.

OVER AND OVER.

SO, UM, UM, THE JUDGE, WE DIDN'T RUN THIS, THIS HAS BEEN THROUGH COUNCIL.

SO WE HAD COUNCIL REVIEW, UH, BOTH THE CITY AND THE COUNTIES, UH, UH, DOCUMENTS IN THIS AND NOW, AND THE BIG BOX STEP IS OVER IN MY PRECINCT ACROSS THE ROAD.

THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.

NO, IT'S JUST NORTH, JUST NORTH OF THE 7 41 BRIDGE ON THAT, ON THAT CORNER, GOING UP TOWARDS HEARTLAND.

SO WE'RE GOING TO CLEAN UP, DO THEY PUT THAT IN THE PIT? DID YOU WORK IN THE FIELD? THEY, THAT, AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO DO THE CLEANUP.

DID YOU WORK THAT IN THIS DEAL? NO, BECAUSE ATLANTA, WE LOST THAT LEASE.

THAT'S WHY WE LOST THE LEAD AT THE END OF THE DEAL.

WELL, I DON'T THINK, UH, I DON'T THINK A BIG BOX GROCERY STORE ONCE WAS DOING CLEANUP THAT IN THEIR PARKING LOT.

YOU NEVER KNOW IF YOU DON'T ASK.

SO ARE WE READY TO MOVE ON? AND, UH, SO, UH, COMMISSIONER, THE COUNCIL, WOULDN'T REPEAT THAT PER THAT A RECOMMENDED MOTION.

SO THE MOTION, IF YOU ALL CHOOSE WHAT EITHER BE TO APPROVE OR NOT APPROVE THE INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT TO PARTICIPATE IN TAX INCREMENT, REINVESTMENT ZONE, NUMBER THREE, CITY OF CRANDALL, TEXAS.

AND THIS AGREEMENT BASICALLY, UM, IS TO, TO BE IT'S A THREE-WAY AGREEMENT.

LIKE ALL OF OUR INNER LOCAL TERMS AGREEMENTS ARE WITH INVESTMENT ZONE.

NUMBER THREE, THE CITY OF CRANDALL, TEXAS AND KAUFMAN COUNTY, TEXAS AS A PARTICIPANTS, AND IT'S IN YOUR PACKAGE.

BUT, UM, THAT WOULD BE THE MOTION.

JUDGE I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION, A MOTION TO APPROVE OR NOT THE MOTION TO APPROVE OR NOT TO APPROVE.

I MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THAT, UH, THAT PROPOSAL IS STATED BY, UH, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

THAT'S FROM COMMISSIONER KATE'S.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT, UH, INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT FOR TERM NUMBER THREE.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER HUNT,

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DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

NO, NO.

THAT, UH, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

UH, OPPOSED, I SHOULD SAY OPPOSED YOU OPPOSED? SO, OKAY.

SO WE HAVE THREE, WE HAVE THREE, A FOUR, AND ONE TO POST THAT MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM 12 COMMISSIONER.

YES.

MA'AM OKAY.

THAT'S GOT THE TAX OFFICE HAS TO BE INVOLVED SO THEY CAN GET THAT PROGRAM TO GIVE ME THE RIGHT REPORTS TO SEND MONEY.

SO SOMEBODY NEEDS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TAX OFFICE IS MY, THAT HAS TO BE PROGRAMMED FOR NEXT EXIT.

YES MA'AM.

[12. Commissioner Cates; Discuss/Consider lease with Ken Davis to lease property for burning brush]

NEXT ITEM, COMMISSIONER.

KATE'S UH, DISCUSS, CONSIDERED LEASE WITH KEN DAVIS TO LEASE PROPERTY FOR BURNING BRUSH ORDINARILY.

AND JUDGE, THIS IS A, THIS IS A LEASE THAT WE'D LIKE TO ENTER INTO A, WITH A PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL IN OUR PRECINCT, WHO FOR THE GRAND TOTAL OF $1 A YEAR IS WILLING TO LEASE US SOME PROPERTY SO THAT WE HAVE FINALLY HAVE A PLACE TO BE ABLE TO ESSENTIALLY BURN BRUSH THAT WE HAVE PICKED UP THROUGH THE COURSE OF RODEN BRIDGE OPERATIONS.

JEFF'S THE MOST RECENT STORM.

WE, WE PICKED UP, CUT UP AND REMOVED ALMOST 500 DOWN TREES, AND WE REALLY HAVE, UH, NO PLACE AND NO MECHANISM TO, TO, UH, DESTROY THAT.

SO THIS WILL, UH, THIS WILL ALLOW US TO ESSENTIALLY DIG A HOLE AND BURN WITH THE PARTICIPATION IN THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE BURN BRUSH WHEN IT'S APPROPRIATE, UH, ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR.

SO THERE'S AN ANNUAL LEASE THAT, THAT, UH, ASSUMING ALL GOES WELL, WE WILL RENEW ANNUALLY.

SO I'D MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE LEASE.

MR. CAGE MOVES TO APPROVE THE LEASE HAS PRESENTED AN ITEM.

IS THERE A SECOND? OH, SECOND, SECOND.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

NOW TO THE AUDITOR DISCUSS, CONSIDER LINE ITEM AND BUDGET TRANSFERS.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES

[13. Auditor; Discuss/Consider line-item and budget transfers/corrections.]

CORRECTIONS.

YES.

THESE WERE EMAILED TO YOU LAST WEEK FOR YOUR REVIEW.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO.

THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS.

OR IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE WHILE I'M TRANSFERS AND BUDGET TRANSFERS, CORRECTIONS AS PRESENTED? I'LL MAKE A MOTION WHERE THE MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS IS OUR SECOND.

I'LL SAY SECOND COMMISSIONER HUNT.

DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

NO MOTION CARRIES

[14. Auditor; Discuss/Consider claims for payment and/or Financial Information as provided by the County Auditor.]

ITEM 14.

DID THE AUDITOR AGAIN, DISCUSS CLAIM FOR PAYMENT AND OR FINANCIAL INFORMATION IS PROVIDED BY THE COUNTY AUDITOR.

UM, YOUR CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT ARE $580,230 AND 62 CENTS.

THESE WERE SENT TO YOU FOR REVIEW.

DO YOU HAVE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE? IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE CLAIM FOR PAYMENT AS PRESENTED LIKE THE MOTION? WE HAVE A MOTION COMMISSIONER HUNT.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER CAGE DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR.

SIGNIFY.

I HAVE SOME FINANCIAL INFORMATION.

OH, I'M SORRY.

WELL, THAT'S OKAY.

I, I ASKED LEGAL COUNSEL AND THANK YOU, KAREN.

IF I COULD CHANGE UP THE WORDING OF MY TWO ITEMS SO I COULD GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATION.

SO TO MAKE IT RIGHT.

SO WE'LL COUNT THIS AS A DISCUSSION.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, AND NOW WE'RE HAVING DISCUSSION.

I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT LIKE TO HAVE SOME INFORMATION ON BOND MONEY WHAT'S BEEN SPENT EVER SINCE WE'VE GOTTEN A PENNY OF IT FOR EACH FISCAL YEAR.

WHAT THE BUDGET IS.

WE HAVE NOT HAVE ONE FOR YOU.

BUT THAT DIDN'T COME UNTIL AFTER WE HAD PREPARED THIS.

AT YOUR FIRST ONE IS YOUR ARP MONEY.

YOUR FIRST 13 MILLION, I HAVE REQUESTED THE SECOND SET OF 13 MILLION.

THEY INVITE.

IN FACT, THEY SENT ME AN EMAIL INVITING ME TO ASK FOR IT.

SO I HAVE, WE JUST HAVEN'T RECEIVED IT YET.

AND WHEN WE DO, THEN I WOULD ASSUME THAT MS. RAYLAN WILL BRING THOSE ITEMS TO Y'ALL TO APPROVE A BUDGET FOR THOSE AMOUNTS.

AND THEN WE CAN ADD TO IT.

UM, AND THAT'S YOUR FIRST PAGE.

YOUR SECOND PAGE IS YOUR FUN.

1 36, WHICH HAS TO DO WITH YOUR CURRENT ROAD BOND MONEY.

WE'VE RECEIVED 65 MILLION, A LITTLE OVER 60 MILLION OF THAT.

YES, WE'VE GOTTEN THE OTHER 30 SOMETHING MILLION,

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SO WE'LL UPDATE IT FOR YOU, BUT IT SHOWS YOU FROM, UM, THE ORIGINAL BUDGET TO TRANSFERS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED BY RUTLAND AND ITS AND WHAT THE AMENDED BUDGET IS.

SO WE STARTED SPENDING THIS MONEY IN 2020.

SO I'VE GIVEN YOU THE HISTORY OF 20, 20, 20, 21 AND 2022.

AND WHAT'S LEFT IN THAT BUDGET.

AND IF YOU GO TO PAGE FOUR, YOUR THAT IS YOUR FACILITIES.

WE'VE RECEIVED ALL 50 MILLION OF THAT, OF THOSE ISSUES THAT SHOWS YOU WHAT WE ORIGINALLY BUDGETED, WHAT WAS TRANSFERRED AND THE AMENDED BUDGET, WHAT WE'VE SPENT IN 20 20, 20, 21 AND 2022.

AND WHAT YOU HAVE REMAINING IS 19 MILLION.

YOUR LAST ONE ON PAGE FIVE, THAT'S YOUR BIG ONE.

THAT IS THE 2014 INITIAL BOND ISSUE, WHICH WAS RIGHT AT $56 MILLION.

AND THIS GIVES YOU ALL THE LINE ITEMS, THE ORIGINAL COMMITMENT, ITS HIS TRANSFERS THAT WAS APPROVED IN COURT.

THE AMENDED BUDGET, ALL THE EXPENDITURE STARTING WITH 2014 THROUGH 2022.

AND IT SHOWS YOU HAVE A REMAINING OF 3.4 MILLION LEFT TO SPEND OUT OF THAT FUND.

UH, HOPE THAT'S HELPFUL INFORMATION AND YOU CAN FOLLOW WHAT I DID TO TRY TO HELP.

MA'AM YOU'RE WELCOME.

QUESTIONS FOR KAREN.

THERE ARE MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO, UH, APPROVE CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT HAS PRESENTED, UH, THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

ITEM 15 IS MINE, UH, TO RECEIVE ESTIMATE OF THE NET APPRAISE VALUE, TAXABLE VALUE, FREEZE, ADJUSTED VALUE, DISCUSS TOTAL SPENDING GOALS FOR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS IN ROAD AND BRIDGE.

OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES

[15. Judge Richards; To receive estimate of the net appraised value, taxable value, freeze adjusted value, and discuss total spending goals for Maintenance & Operations and Road & Bridge.]

UH, WE DON'T REALLY NEED TO HAVE A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, SPENDING GOALS FOR INS BECAUSE THAT'S ALREADY, I MEAN THAT'S SET AND FIXED.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU WERE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT INTO CONSIDERATION THIS YEAR AS WE SET OUR SPENDING GOALS, OUR BUDGET GOALS IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONSIDER INFLATION, WHICH LUCKILY HAVEN'T HAD TO REALLY EVEN WE HAVEN'T EVEN, I DON'T THINK THAT'S EVEN BEEN ON ANYBODY'S MIND IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.

UH, MY INTENTION ON THAT IS WHAT YOU'LL SEE AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN THE BUDGET IS I'LL BE THE, UH, FEDERAL RESERVE OF THE DALLAS FEDERAL RESERVE, UH, DOES A PRE A PROJECTION EVERY MONTH.

THEY UPDATED EVERY MONTH FOR, UH, INFLATION.

AND UH, SO WE'LL HAVE WE'LL FACTOR THAT IN.

AND THAT'S THE SOURCE THAT I THAT'S THE SOURCE I'M GOING TO RELY ON AS FAR AS FIGURING OUT OR MAKING SOME ESTIMATE WHAT OUR INFLATION, WHICH IS REALLY JUST GOING TO BE HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE TO SUBTRACT OUT OF WHATEVER WE BUDGET BECAUSE IT'S, IT'LL BE LOST TO INFLATION.

UM, QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.

ON TO 16, UH, DISCUSS SPENDING GOALS AND MAINTENANCE OPERATIONS.

THEN WE'LL MOVE

[16. Judge Richards; Discuss setting spending goals for Maintenance & Operations and Road & Bridge.]

UM, I THINK WE SHOULD START OFF WITH A NUMBER THAT WE WOULD, THAT WOULD W WE'RE GETTING READY IN THE NEXT ITEM.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT SENDING SPREADSHEETS OUT TO ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS.

I THINK WE NEED TO GIVE THEM SOME GUIDANCE AS TO WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING TO DO IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH, UH, ADDITIONAL SPENDING THEY SHOULD, THEY SHOULD PUT INTO THEIR BUDGET.

AND THIS WAS A STARTING POINT.

UM, THE W AS I GO ALONG THROUGH THIS, WHAT I'M GOING TO BE USING IS A TOTAL SPENDING INCREASE.

JUST, I'M JUST GOING TO BE SUBJECT TO A LOT OF EDITS AND CHANGES, BUT I'M GOING TO USE 10%.

UM, AND THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT I'LL BE USING AS WE GO ALONG.

AND THEN WE'LL WHEN WE GET DOWN TO OUR BUDGET APPROVAL, THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, THEN WE'LL HAVE TO WE'LL LOOK AT ALL OF THE SUBMISSIONS FROM THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND TALK ABOUT, UM, THE DEMANDS THAT WE HAVE AND WHAT KIND OF SERVICES THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PROVIDING OUR CITIZENS.

AND THEN WE'LL GO FROM THERE.

I'M GONNA THROW THAT NUMBER DOWN JUST AS A STARTING POINT, WHICH IS, SAY IT AGAIN, 10%, 10%.

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AND THEN, UH, I GUESS IF THEY'RE LOOKING AT THEIR DEPARTMENT AND THEY SEE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE GROWTH IN THE KNEES, YOU'RE LIMITING THEM TO 10% OF NO, I'M SAYING THAT WE'RE GOING TO SAY OUR, OUR GOAL THIS YEAR DEPARTMENT HEAD, OUR GOAL THIS YEAR IS TO LIMIT OUR SPENDING INCREASED TO 10%.

IF YOU, AS ALWAYS, THE DEPARTMENTS CAN SUBMIT WHATEVER.

AND THERE MAY BE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE DOING SOME SORT OF MAJOR EXPANSION, OR THEY HAVE SOME SORT OF A BIG PROJECT THAT THEY'RE DOING THAT WOULD INCREASE THAT A LOT.

ULTIMATELY THAT DECISION IS HOW MUCH WE ALLOW EACH DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN.

IT HAS TO BE MADE HERE, BUT I THINK WE NEED A STARTING POINT, SO THEY CAN AT LEAST HAVE SOMETHING TO SHOOT AT.

AND I WOULD SAY IF SOMEBODY COMES, IF SOMEBODY, AS FAR AS MY INPUT GOES, IF SOMEBODY COMES WITH A, UH, SPENDING INCREASE OF 20%, UH, WELL MAYBE THAT'S JUSTIFIED ON THAT DEPARTMENT, BUT I DON'T THINK WE CAN HAVE A 20% SPENDING INCREASE IN EVERY DEPARTMENT.

OH NO, NO.

I UNDERSTAND.

I JUST DON'T WANT THEM TO GET IN THEIR MIND THAT WHENEVER THEY LOOK AT THE NEEDS OF THEIR DEPARTMENT, THEY LIMIT THEMSELVES TO TRY TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF OUR MONEY OR TRY TO APIECE US.

I REALLY WANT TO SEE WHAT THEY FILL OUT.

THEY REALLY NEED TO FUNCTION PROPERLY.

AND THEN ULTIMATELY SOMEBODY HAS GOT TO MAKE THE DECISION.

WE CAN'T DO IT ALL.

NOW WE CAN, I JUST DON'T WANT THEM TO FEEL LIKE THAT THEY CAN'T DO WELL.

AND I THINK, BUT I WOULD, YOU KNOW, I WOULD CHALLENGE ALL OF THEM.

I WOULD CHALLENGE EVERYBODY TO BRING IT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WHATEVER YOU THINK YOU NEED, BUT, BUT DON'T, I HERE, HERE'S AN EXAMPLE THAT I WOULD SAY IF SOMEBODY CAME WITH A, A REQUEST FOR 20% AND THEIR JUSTIFICATION WAS CAUSE THEY'RE REALLY, REALLY BUSY, THAT, THAT DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, AND I, I HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE CONSCIENTIOUS ENOUGH TO DO IT PROPERLY AND MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS.

DR.

D DANCING.

THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN WE, SHE AND I HAD A CONVERSATION ONE TIME AFTER, YOU KNOW, WE STARTED AT FIRST ROUND AND THAT WAS ALL INTERRUPTED BY COVID.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SHE TOLD ME WAS HOW, WHAT AN IMPRESSION IT MADE ON HER IS HOW SO MANY OF THE DEPARTMENT HEAD SHE TALKED ABOUT WERE REALLY FOCUSED ON BEING EFFICIENT WITH THEIR MONEY, WHICH WAS, I MEAN, IT WAS REALLY GREAT TO HEAR THAT FROM AN OUTSIDER.

I TRULY BELIEVE THERE ARE PEOPLE.

SO ANYWAY, THAT'S, THAT'S THAT, AND THEN THE, UH, THE, THE LAST THING, WHICH IS ITEM 17, WE PROBABLY COULD HAVE PUT ALL THIS IN ONE ITEM, BUT THIS WAS, CAN I JUST COMMENT ON SECURE BEFORE YOU MOVE TO THAT? SORRY.

UH, I KNOW ALL OF YOU JUST LIKE I HAVE HEARD THE CONSTERNATION OVER, OVER THE DRAMATIC INCREASE IN PROPERTY APPRAISALS THIS YEAR.

AND, UH, UH, THERE'S, THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT THE CITIZENS ARE SUFFERING, UH, PARTICULARLY OUR ELDERLY FIXED INCOME PEOPLE.

SO, UH, WHILE I RECOGNIZE THE REALITIES OF ADDED COSTS, I MEAN, UH, I THINK YOU SEE THAT WE LIVE THAT IN ROAD AND BRIDGE EVERY DAY WITH, YOU KNOW, MY FUEL COSTS ARE OFF THE CHART, INCREASED, UH, INCREASED COSTS.

BUT, UM, AND WHILE I, UH, WHILE I UNDERSTAND THE PRINCIPLE OF TRYING TO, UH, GIVE A CAR, GET A RANGE, IF YOU WILL, I WOULD LIKE THE COURT FOR US TO CONSIDER, UH, THE CONCEPT OF NO NEW REVENUE GROWTH THIS YEAR.

UM, THE, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S REALISTIC, BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING, I THINK THAT'S THE GOAL THAT WE OUGHT TO TRY AT LEAST THIS YEAR TO, TO GO FORWARD WITH THE REALITY OF GOOD MANAGEMENT IS THAT EVERY YEAR AS AN ORGANIZATION SHOULD BE, SHOULD BE STREAMLINING AND BECOMING MORE EFFICIENT AND LEANING OUT IF YOU WILL, IF WE, IF WE DO THINGS, UH, YOU KNOW, BETTER AND MORE EFFECTIVELY.

AND, UM, SO I, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO AT LEAST THROW OUT FOR CONSIDERATION THAT WE, THAT WE AT LEAST APPROACH THIS BUDGET FROM A NO NEW REVENUE GROWTH.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AS COMMISSIONER HUNT POINTS OUT, UH, AT THE SAME TIME, KNOW THAT OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS NEED TO COME FORWARD WITH WHAT THEY REALLY HAVE TO HAVE.

AND THEN W THAT ENABLES US TO MAKE THOSE DETERMINATIONS, UM, WHAT THEY'LL END UP WITH.

BUT, BUT, UH, I THINK, UH, PARTICULARLY THIS YEAR, AND MAYBE FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, THE WAY THE ECONOMY IS GOING, I THINK WE NEED TO BE FOCUSED ON TRYING OUR VERY BEST TO MINIMIZE ANY TAX, UM, ANY POTENTIAL TAX INCREASE ON THE CITIZENS

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OF THIS COUNTY.

THEY, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE REALLY, REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT LOSING THEIR HOMES, NOT BEING ABLE TO PAVE THEIR, THEIR PROPERTY TAXES.

AND, YOU KNOW, AS WE KNOW, YOU KNOW, KAUFMAN COUNTY IS ONLY ABOUT 18% OF THEIR TOTAL TAX BILL, BUT, UH, TO THE EXTENT THAT WE COULD, UH, COULD TRY TO IMPROVE OUR OPERATIONS AND OUR EFFICIENCIES, UH, I THINK THAT OUGHT TO BE OUR GOAL.

SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO AT LEAST THROW OUT THAT WE, THAT WE GIVE SOME THOUGHT TO NO NEW REVENUE GROWTH FOR THIS PARTICULAR YEAR AND MAYBE IN, FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.

THAT'LL BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION AS WE MOVE THROUGH.

UH, I DO THINK THERE'S VALUE IN, I THINK MOST PEOPLE AS INDIVIDUALS AND ORGANIZATIONS, UH, TEND TO SPEND UP TO WHAT THEY HAVE.

OH, I AGREE.

AND I AGREE TO ONE THING AT, YOU KNOW, OUR EMPLOYEES, THOSE ARE MAIN TO THEY'RE STRUGGLING TOO.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW ON EARTH THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH ANOTHER YEAR WITH NO INCREASE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.

THAT WOULDN'T BE, WELL, WE HAVEN'T HAD A YEAR.

I MEAN, WE DID GIVE, UH, ADMITTEDLY A SMALL RAISE, BUT 1% THEN COUNT FOR, WELL, ACTUALLY WE WENT BACK AND SUPPLEMENTED THAT.

SO, UM, SO, UH, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE.

THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.

I MEAN, THAT'S A, THAT'S A, CERTAINLY A CONSIDERATION, BUT, UM, IF WE, IF WE WOULD GENUINELY APPROACH, UH, SOME OF OUR OPERATIONS IN AN EFFORT TO STREAMLINE SAVE MONEY IN OTHER AREAS THAT, UH, UH, AT LEAST GIVE THE POTENTIAL TO FUND THOSE KINDS OF VERY NEEDED EXPENSES.

UPDATE ON 17 IS THAT, UM, UH, THE AUDITOR IS GOING TO SEND OUT A BUDGET SPREADSHEETS, UH, TO ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND RE WE, WE HAVE A CALENDAR AND THAT'LL, UH, CALENDAR, IT'LL GO BE GOING.

LET'S ALL THIS ALL GOOD DISCUSSION.

AND, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S OUR JOB TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS AND TO, UH, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DELIVERING THE KIND OF SERVICES THAT OUR CITIZENS DESERVE AND THAT WE DO IT AS EFFICIENTLY.

AND, UH, THE LAST THING JUST KIND OF AN

[17. Judge Richards; Discuss spending goals and budget spreadsheets with department heads.]

I'LL BE REMINDING EVERYBODY THAT CALENDAR TWO AT THE SAME TIME, SHE SENDS THE SPREADSHEETS OUT, UM, WHEN, WHEN WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THEM RETURN THEIR, UH, BUDGET WORKSHEETS.

AND, UH, WE'LL GET THOSE UPLOADED INTO ONE BIG GIANT SPREADSHEET AND START, START TO IN AWAY ANYTHING ELSE.

TO EVERYONE'S FAVORITE ITEM.

THAT BRINGS US

[18. Adjourn Meeting]

I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT DURING THIS MEETING COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS MOVES TO ADJOURN, OR SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSION CAGE DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE.