Jun 07, 2022 Commissioners Court

YES, PLEASE.

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THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE COFFIN COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT IS

[Call to Order]

AND THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING ROOM LOCATED IN THE COURTHOUSE, ANNEX AND KAUFMAN.

WE STARTED OUR MEETING TODAY WITH THE INVOCATION IN PLEDGES TO OUR FLAGS.

UH, I'LL LEAD THE INVOCATION.

IF YOU PLEASE STAND LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THE BLESSINGS OF THIS LIFE.

AND WE ASK THAT YOU GUIDE THOSE OF US WHO MAKE DECISIONS ON ALL OF US IN COUNTY GOVERNMENT THAT MAKE DECISIONS ON BEHALF OF OUR, OF OUR RESIDENTS AND TAXPAYERS.

UH, WE CONTINUE TO PRAY FOR THE FAMILIES AND THE LOVED ONES OF THE, UH, OF THOSE WHO ARE SO CLOSELY EFFECTED BY THE VALLEY INCIDENT AND GIVE LEADERS IN AMERICA WISDOM TO FIGURE OUT, UH, HOW WE CAN, UH, FIND WAYS TO PREVENT THOSE THINGS.

THANK YOU FOR ALL THE BLESSING IN THIS LIFE.

AND WE PRAY ALL THESE THINGS IN JESUS NAME.

AMEN.

I BELIEVE TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL HONOR, THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS ONE STATE IN THE BISTABLE.

WELL, AGAIN, GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.

UM, WE HAVE SOME PRESENTERS HERE WITH US.

THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TODAY.

UH, FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.

DOES ANYONE HAVE, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE TO SHARE? IF NOT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM TWO.

I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS FROM ANYBODY WANTING TO, UH, SPEAK TO THE COURT ABOUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA.

ITEM TWO IS A CONSENT

[2. CONSENT AGENDA]

CONSIDER ACCEPTING THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING MINUTES OF MAY 31ST, 2022.

ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS OR ADDITIONS TO THE MINUTES? IF THERE ARE NONE AS HER MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED, I'LL MAKE MY WAY THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS IS OUR SECOND I'LL.

SECOND, SECOND, COMMISSIONER HUNT, DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES NEXT

[3. HOK Architects; Receive updates for Phase III - Kaufman County Facilities Master Plan.]

HOK ARCHITECTS RECEIVE UPDATES FOR PHASE THREE KAUFMAN COUNTY FACILITIES MASTER PLAN.

GOOD MORNING.

IF YOU DON'T MIND TELL US WHO YOU ARE.

SURE.

I'M HILLARY JONES WITH H O K AND I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE MASTER PLAN PLANNING FOR THE COUNTY.

GIVE ME ONE MOMENT.

I HAVE TO LOCATE MY MOUSE.

HMM.

WHILE SHE'S DOING THAT, I CAN'T HELP.

BUT NOTICE THAT RAELYNN HAS A GUEST HERE WITH US TODAY WHO YOU HAVEN'T TO TAG.

IT ARE ALL THE HEARTSTRINGS OF THE PEOPLE WATCHING ON VIDEO, BECAUSE THIS IS JUST MANY PUPPIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE AT PET ADOPTION CENTER OR FOSTER OR ADOPT.

I'VE HAD HIM AND HIS SISTER FOR TWO WEEKS.

OH, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEBODY.

HUH.

AND, BUT I DON'T THINK PEOPLE GOING SEE HERE.

HE'S GOT TO GET OKAY.

I'M JUST SAYING THAT BECAUSE I CAN'T SEE RIGHT THERE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SAY NOW.

ALL RIGHT.

SO LET ME SEE IF THIS IS HELPFUL.

OKAY.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY.

UM, SO GOOD MORNING.

WE HAVE BEEN, UM, TASKED WITH WORKING ON SOME STUDIES FOR THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE AND THE ANNEX BUILDING TO DO SOME RESTACKING AND SOME OVERALL PLANNING FOR, UH, THE COUNTY MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THERE'S GROWTH.

AND WE KNOW THAT THERE'S CHANGE OF FOOT BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF, UH, FOLKS WHO ARE LEAVING THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE, UH, ONCE THE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GET THE JUSTICE CENTER UP AND RUNNING.

AND SO WE DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO HAVE OUR HISTORIC COURTHOUSE JUST SITTING VACANT.

UH, AND THE JUDGE, UH, WOULD BE LONELY ALL BY HIMSELF OVER THERE.

SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE FOLKS IN THERE.

SO WE'VE BEEN TASKED FOR, UH, A YEAR ESSENTIALLY TO STUDY THIS BUILDING.

WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH, UM, ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS.

UM, WE'VE COME IN AND OUT OF COURT A COUPLE OF TIMES.

AND WE, UH, HAVE BEEN, UH, ASKED TO CONTINUE TO REVISIT OUR STUDY UNTIL WE HONE IN, UH, SOME IDEAS THAT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT

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SO I'M HERE TODAY TO SHOW YOU THAT WE NOT ONLY HAVE LISTENED TO YOU, BUT WE HAVE APPLIED ALL OF THE REQUESTS INTO SIX OPTIONS FOR THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE AND THE DOWNTOWN ANNEX.

UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S SORT OF LIKE BUYING A USED CAR.

IF THIS ONES, THIS ONE DOESN'T WORK, MAYBE SOMETHING ELSE WILL, I'VE GOT ALL KINDS OF THINGS ON MY LOT FOR YOU.

I THINK THAT THERE IS HONESTLY, UH, UH, PROBABLY A COMBINATION HERE OF, OF SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE IN FACT BEEN ABLE TO STUDY AND PUT TOGETHER FOR YOU.

SO, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE AGAIN JUST STUDIES THEY'RE CONCEPTS AND THEY'RE THINGS THAT WE FEEL LIKE WOULD BE A GOOD FIT.

ALL OF THEM HAVE THEIR OWN ADVANTAGES AND DISADVANTAGES.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE COURT WILL HAVE TO SORT OF MULL OVER.

SO THAT BEING SAID AS A REVIEW FIRST PRESENTED IN OCTOBER OF 2021 WAS OUR FIRST PASS AT THE STUDY.

THIS IS WHERE WE LOOKED AT THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE IN THE ANNEX BUILDING IN TOTALITY.

AND WE, WE WERE ASKED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE OPPORTUNITY FOR RESTACKING TO GET INTO THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE WOULD LOOK LIKE.

UH, AND THEN WHAT WOULD THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE ANNEX BE IF WE HAD TO DO ANY TYPE OF RENOVATION IN THERE AND SHOULD BOTH BE RENOVATED AT THE SAME TIME, THERE WERE A VARIETY OF QUESTIONS THAT HAD TO BE ANSWERED FOR THIS STUDY.

SO TO REVIEW OPTION, ONE THAT WE HAD THAT WE PUT IN FRONT OF THE COURT WAS THE MIGRATION OF SOME OF THE COUNTY SERVICES INTO THE ANNEX BUILDING INTO THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE SO THAT THE COURTHOUSE COULD CONTINUE TO BE PART OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

AND THE ANNEX WOULD CONTINUE TO HAVE ITS FULL FUNCTION, EXCEPT IT WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE A DIFFERENT LOOK AND FEEL BECAUSE IT WOULD BE REWORKED, UH, COMPLETELY, BOTH INSIDE AND OUT.

SO WE WOULD, RESCAN IS WHAT WE CALL IT, WHERE WE GIVE THE EXTERIOR REALLY SIGNIFICANT FACELIFT.

AND THEN WE WOULD ALSO DO A PRETTY EXTENSIVE RENOVATION ON THE INSIDE OF THE ANNEX.

THE OTHER PART OF THIS OPTION WAS GOING OVER, UH, THE PARKING LOT AND RE UH, SURFACING THE PARKING LOT, RE STRIPING THE PARKING LOT AND UNIFYING THE PARKING LOT INTO THE LOT THAT IS, UH, CONNECTED TO THE ACTUAL ANNEX BUILDINGS.

SO YOU WOULD HAVE A NICE BIG AREA FOR PARKING.

SO WE HAVE ADDED SINCE WE'VE LAST SPOKEN WITH ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS AND BEEN IN COURT, WE'VE ADDED WHAT WE CALL, UH, OUR, OUR VALUE MATRIX TO OUR SLIDES.

SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE, UH, IN WAYS IN WHICH WE'RE EVALUATING SORT OF WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE IN TERMS OF OVERALL ACCESSIBILITY COST, ADD VALUE YOUR ROI ON THIS PARTICULAR OPTION.

SO WE FELT LIKE THIS MIGHT BE A GOOD WAY TO ACTUALLY TAKE SORT OF A SNAPSHOT OF WHAT THIS REALLY LOOKS LIKE.

SO IN THIS PHASE, UH, TO REVIEW, AND THIS IS JUST A SMALLER VIEW, IF ANY OF YOU WANT TO SEE A LARGER VIEW OF THIS PLAN, I'VE GOT THEM FURTHER BACK IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT WHAT THIS DOES IS IT MOVES THIS FORWARD IN TWO DISTINCT PHASES.

SO THE FIRST PHASE REQUIRES THAT EVERYBODY MOVE OUT OF THE ANNEX BUILDING, UH, AND THE ANNEX BUILDING BE RENOVATED ALL AT ONE TIME.

AND THE, WE ALSO WOULD BE RENOVATING EVERYTHING IN THE COURTHOUSE.

SO WE WOULD NEED TO RENOVATE THE COURTHOUSE FIRST SO THAT WE COULD GET EVERYBODY SITUATED INTO THE COURTHOUSE.

WE WOULD HAVE AN, AN INTERIM SPACE FOR THE TAX OFFICE TO BE.

AND WHILE THAT WAS HAPPENING, WE WOULD THEN RENOVATE THE ANNEX.

AND ONCE THE ANNEX WAS DONE, WE WOULD THEN RESTACK FOLKS BACK INTO THE ANNEX BECAUSE THAT SPACE WOULD BE DONE.

SO THAT WOULD BE PHASE TWO, RIGHT? SO THE DEAL WITH THIS PARTICULAR OPTION FOR PHASE, FOR PHASE ONE AND TWO WITH OPTION ONE IS THAT THE ELECTIONS IS IN THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE.

NOW THIS HAS ITS ADVANTAGES AND DISADVANTAGES.

AND I JUST WANT TO REVIEW THAT BECAUSE ELECTIONS HAS A LOT OF MOVING PARTS TO WHAT THEY DO.

THEY HAVE A LOT OF STORAGE REQUIREMENTS AND IN PARTICULAR OPTION, ALTHOUGH WE CAN FIT THEM IN THE BUILDING, THE DEAL IS, IS THAT IT'S NOT EFFICIENT AND IT DOESN'T ALLOW FOR THEM FOR LONG-TERM GROWTH.

AND WE KNOW THAT WITH ALL OF THE LEGISLATION AROUND VOTING, UH, AND WE DO KNOW THAT THERE IS ONE CONSTANT IN THE, IN ANY COUNTY, NO MATTER WHAT IS THAT THE ELECTIONS DEPARTMENTS GROW.

WHEREAS MOST OTHER COUNTY DEPARTMENTS EITHER SHRINK OR STAY VERY SIMILAR IN SIZE OF PROJECTION OVER THE NEXT 15 TO 20 YEARS, ELECTIONS IS NOT THAT WAY.

SO THIS WOULD BE A SHOE HORN.

WE COULD FIT THEM IN, BUT IT'S NOT THE BEST OPTION FOR THE ELECTIONS BUILDING, BUT WE CAN DO IT.

SO ONCE PHASE ONE AND TWO ARE DONE, WE WOULD MOVE.

LIKE I SAID, WE WOULD MOVE OUR TAX OFFICE AND EVERYBODY BACK OVER INTO THE ANNEX.

AND THIS WOULD BE OUR COMPLETED STACK OF THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE AND THE ANNEX.

SO WE WOULD HAVE A NEW COMMISSIONERS COURT, WE WOULD HAVE HR, WE WOULD HAVE ELECTIONS.

WE WOULD S THE COUNTY JUDGE WOULD REMAIN IN THE SAME PLACE, SO ON AND SO FORTH.

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SO IN THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE, THESE WOULD BE YOUR FUNCTIONS AND IN THE ANNEX, THIS WOULD BE YOUR FUNCTION.

OKAY.

AND THIS WOULD BE THE OVERALL COST SHEET FOR OPTION ONE.

SO AGAIN, WHAT THIS DOES IS IT UTILIZES THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE AND THE ANNEX, BUT UNDER SIGNIFICANT RENOVATION TO THE EXISTING BUILDINGS, IS IT AN IDEAL FIT? NO, BUT DOES IT WORK? YES.

THE LAST TIME I WAS IN COMMISSIONER'S COURT, THIS WAS THE PRESENTATION THAT I PUT IN FRONT OF ALL OF YOU.

SO THIS IS WHERE WE STUDIED THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE AND THE ANNEX BUILDING AGAIN, WHERE WE WERE LOOKING AT WAYS TO WORK WITH WHAT WE HAD AND SEE IF THERE WAS A BETTER OPTION OR A BETTER FIT.

SO OPTION TWO STUDIES DIVESTING THE ANNEX BUILDING AND MAINTAINING THE PARKING LOT ONLY.

AND THEN WE ALSO CONSOLIDATE AS MANY FUNCTIONS AS WE CAN INTO THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE.

AND THEN WE LEVERAGE OTHER AREAS WITHIN THE COUNTY, OTHER BUILDINGS OR OTHER PROPERTIES, SO THAT WE CAN MOVE THOSE FUNCTIONS THAT WOULD BEST SERVE IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTY, OUT OF THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE.

SO, AS YOU CAN SEE OUR VALUE MATRIX HERE SHOWS THAT THIS ACTUALLY ADDS A LOT OF VALUE TO THE COMMUNITY AND DEPARTMENTAL VALUE TO SIMPLY BECAUSE OF ITS LOCATION, THE CO-LOCATION AND THE ADJACENCY REQUIREMENTS THAT SOME OF THESE DEPARTMENTS HAVE.

IT ALLOWS FOR SOME FOLKS TO GROW.

AND YOUR ROI ON THIS IS REALLY, REALLY GOOD.

SO WHAT I PRESENTED TO THE COURT LOOKS LIKE THIS.

WE HAVE THE TAX OFFICE THAT HAS PERMANENT LOCATION INSIDE THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE.

WE ALSO HAVE THE DEPARTMENT OF DEVELOPMENT AND THE COUNTY ENGINEER IN THIS WING, IN THE COURTHOUSE, THERE IS A COMMUNICATING STAIR.

YOU LIKE MY GIANT POINTER.

THERE IS A COMMUNICATING STAIR THAT, UH, FUNCTIONS HERE FOR BOTH THE BASEMENT AND THE LEVEL ONE, BUT THIS PLACE IS YOUR FIRE MARSHAL, YOUR DEPARTMENT OF DEVELOPMENT, YOUR COUNTY ENGINEER IN A CO-LOCATED SPOT.

IT GIVES YOU YOUR COMMISSIONER'S COURT, AND IT GIVES YOU YOUR TAX OFFICE.

AND THEN ALL OF THE BACK OF THE HOUSE COUNTY FUNCTIONS, AGAIN, REMAIN ON LEVEL TWO, SIMILAR TO WHAT OUR FIRST OPTION SHOWED YOU.

THE MAIN DIFFERENCE HERE IS THAT THE ELECTIONS INDIGENT HEALTH AND VETERAN SERVICES ARE RELOCATED.

VETERANS SERVICES IS ALREADY SLATED TO GO INTO THE MASTER PLAN THAT WE HAVE FOR THE HISTORIC POUR FARM.

AND THE LIBRARY EXPANSION HAS SPACE FOR THE INDIGENT HEALTH AND THE HISTORIC COMMISSION.

THESE ARE IDEAL LOCATIONS FOR THESE, UH, FUNCTIONS FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS.

THE FIRST IS VETERAN SERVICES, AS I SAID, IS ALREADY PLANNED TO BE OUT THERE BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE MEMORIAL WALL.

WE ALREADY HAVE A PAVILION PLANNED OUT THERE.

WE'VE GOT THE PARK.

AND SO THE, UH, REQUEST FROM VETERANS SERVICES, UH, LAST YEAR WAS THAT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO BE THE STEWARD OF ALL OF THIS AREA.

THIS WOULD BE WHERE ALL OF OUR FOLKS WOULD LIKE TO COME.

THIS IS WHERE I SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHEN I'M NOT IN MY OFFICE.

AND IT WOULD MAKE THE MOST SENSE IF I WERE PERMANENTLY LOCATED OUT IN THE VETERANS SERVICES PARK.

SO WE HAVE PLANNED FOR THAT ALREADY.

SO IF WE COULD PUT OUR VETERAN SERVICES GUY OUT THERE, HE WOULD BE REALLY, REALLY HAPPY.

THE SECOND PART OF THIS IS INDIGENT HEALTH AND THE HISTORIC COMMISSION PART OF THE LIBRARY EXPANSION PROCESS THAT WE PROPOSED FOR THE MASTER PLAN WAS TO HAVE A GENEALOGY DEPARTMENT, UH, OR SECTION, UH, AS PART OF THE LIBRARY EXPANSION.

UH, WE BELIEVE THAT THE HISTORIC COMMISSION BEING LOCATED OUT AT THE HISTORIC, UH, POOR FARM AND BEING CO-LOCATED WITH THE GENEALOGY, UH, UH, ADDITION AT THE LIBRARY WOULD BE A REALLY NICE CO-LOCATION.

IT WOULD COMMUNICATE WELL WITH ONE ANOTHER, AND PEOPLE COULD REALLY UTILIZE SERVICES FROM BOTH DEPARTMENTS.

UM, OUR THOUGHT HERE ALSO WITH INDIGENT HEALTH IS BECAUSE IT GENERALLY IS THE AGED COMMUNITY THAT COMES IN FOR THE INDIGENT HEALTH.

MOST OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE LIBRARY USERS FROM OUR UNDERSTANDING, AND THEY WOULD BENEFIT FROM NOT ONLY HAVING A MORE QUIET AREA TO VISIT THE INDIGENT HEALTH OFFICE, BUT THEY WOULD ALSO BE A PART OF OUR, OR BENEFIT FROM OUR LIBRARY EXPANSION HERE.

SO THEY WOULD BE GOING TO THE LIBRARY.

SO WE ALREADY HAVE PARKING PLANNED FOR ALL OF THIS.

WE CAN PLAN A SEPARATE ENTRANCE FOR THEM.

SO THERE ARE SOME REAL BENEFITS

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ALSO, AN OPTION TWO TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THAT THERE IS A VERY LARGE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT THE COUNTY OWNS IT'S OUT AT THE EOC SITES.

AND THERE IS A LARGE AREA THAT IS UNDEVELOPED.

WE COULD IN FACT PLAN TO HAVE AN ELECTION'S BUILDING BUILT THAT WOULD SERVICE THE ELECTIONS FUNCTION AS IT NEEDS TO BE SO THAT WE COULD HAVE GROWTH PLANNED.

AND WE COULD SERVICE, UH, THE VEHICLE, THE NEED FOR VEHICLES TO COME IN AND OUT, UH, THE MOVING OF ALL OF THE EQUIPMENT AND OVERALL JUST THE GROWING NEEDS OF WHAT THIS ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO BE EXPERIENCING OVER THE NEXT 15 TO 20 YEARS.

SO THERE IS ENOUGH SPACE TO ACTUALLY PROVIDE THEM WITH ONE SINGULAR BUILDING THAT'S ON ONE FLOOR THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE ANY KIND OF ELEVATOR SYSTEM OR TRAVELING UP AND DOWN STAIRS.

UH, AND WE CAN KEEP THEM SEPARATE FROM THE EOC.

WE CAN STILL PROVIDE THE EOC WITH ITS SECURED PARKING AREA AND ACCESS TO WHAT THEY NEED.

UM, BUT IT DOES GIVE YOUR ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT EXACTLY WHAT IT NEEDS.

IT'S A NICE CENTRAL LOCATION SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE SORT OF A HUB AND SPOKE MODEL FOR ALL OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE DOING.

AND HONESTLY, YOU'RE GOING TO END UP HAVING TO BUILD, UH, AN ELECTION'S BUILDING AT SOME POINT OR ACCOMMODATE THEM DIFFERENTLY IF YOU PUT THEM IN THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE WITHIN THE NEXT 10 YEARS.

SO THE QUESTION IS, DO YOU WANT TO SPEND THE MONEY AND DO THE CONSTRUCTION NOW, OR DO YOU WANT TO SPEND THE MONEY AND ACCOMMODATE THEM TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY AND THEN END UP SPENDING THE MONEY IN 10 YEARS? SO THAT'S REALLY THE QUESTION THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE SELECTIONS BUILDING.

SO IN OPTION TWO, THIS WOULD BE WHAT YOUR DEPARTMENTS, UH, WOULD LOOK LIKE AND WHERE THEY WOULD BE LOCATED.

AND THIS WOULD BE YOUR COST SHEET.

AND YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE POOR FARM I HAVE, WE ALREADY HAVE, UH, PLANNED FOR OUR INDIGENT HEALTH TO GO OUT INTO, OR I'M SORRY, THE, THE LIBRARY EXPANSION ALREADY HAPPENED.

SO WE WOULD PLAN TO MORE OFFICES FOR INDIGENT HEALTH AND THEN VETERAN SERVICES.

WE ALREADY HAVE AN OFFICE PLANNED OUT THERE IN THE PAVILION ANYWAY.

SO THERE'S NO COST DIFFERENCE HERE FOR THESE PARTICULAR, UH, CO-LOCATING PROJECTS.

NOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S COMPLETELY NEW TO THE COURT.

THIS IS OUR OPTION THREE, AND OPTION THREE USES THE TWO DIFFERENT ENDS OF KAUFFMAN TO BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THE SINGULAR GOAL.

AND ESSENTIALLY WE'VE BROKEN THIS OUT INTO FOUR DISTINCT PARTS.

THE MOVING PART IS THE ANNEX BUILDING ITSELF, AND IT WILL SORT OF DANCE IN A, IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION ON EACH OF THESE PARTICULAR SUB OPTIONS THAT YOU'LL SEE, THIS IS THE DIRECT RESULT OF ALL OF THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD WITH THE COMMISSIONERS WHEN WE HAD OUR MEETINGS.

SO THIS IS WHERE WE REALLY BEGAN TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE WHAT'S AVAILABLE AND HOW DO WE GET SMART ABOUT HOW WE PLACE THINGS WITHIN THE COUNTY? SO OPTION THREE, A STUDIES, THE RENOVATING OF THE, THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE AND DEMOLISHING THE EXISTING ANNEX BUILDING AND REBUILDING ON THE SITE.

SO WE WOULD GET A BRAND NEW BUILDING, BUT IT WOULD BE EXACTLY WHERE WE'RE SITTING NOW.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE, WE STILL WANT TO, WE STILL NEED A PLACE TO PUT OUR ELECTIONS OFFICE.

SO WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE AN ALTERNATE PLACE BECAUSE WE CANNOT FIT THE ELECTIONS INTO OUR CURRENT ANNEX BUILDING NOR INTO THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE, WITH THE SAME PLANNING MODEL.

SO WE WOULD NEED TO STILL, UH, RELOCATE THAT ELECTIONS.

SO, BUT YOU CAN SEE FROM OUR VALUE MATRIX HERE, WE START GETTING INTO MORE GOOD THAN FAIR.

AND, UH, IN TERMS OF OPERATING COSTS, WE'VE BUMPED IT UP BECAUSE YOU ACTUALLY ARE NOW WORKING WITH, UH, TWO NEW BUILDINGS, WHICH IN FACT BECOME MORE ENERGY EFFICIENT.

THEY BECOME MORE EFFICIENT IN TERMS OF PEOPLE USAGE AND PARKING AND OVERALL MAINTENANCE COSTS.

SO SINCE YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THIS BEFORE, I GIVE YOU THE ENLARGED VIEW.

SO THIS IS WHAT YOUR HISTORIC COURTHOUSE STACK LOOKS LIKE.

SO WE STILL HAVE THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT SCHEDULED IN THE SAME LOCATION THAT WE HAVE ON THE LAST TWO OPTIONS.

UH, BUT WE DO GIVE YOU A CEREMONIAL COURTROOM, WHICH IS THE EXISTING COURTROOM, THAT'S

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SO WE WOULD RENOVATE IT SO THAT IT WOULD BE BROUGHT UP TO DATE AND, UH, WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO USE IT, HOWEVER, THE COUNTY FELT LIKE IT WANTED TO, BUT IT MIGHT BE A NICE, UH, KIND OF ADDITION TO, UH, BE ABLE TO HAVE THE OPTION TO HAVE CEREMONIES IN THERE.

UH, BUT THE OTHER THING THAT WE'VE DONE THAT'S SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT ON THIS FLOOR IS, UH, WE'VE CHANGED, UH, THIS PARTICULAR WING DOWN HERE INTO A COMMUNITY ROOM.

AND SO THIS IS A COMMUNITY SPACE THAT WE FEEL WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO THE COUNTY, WHERE YOU COULD HAVE BOOK FAIRS, QUILT SHOWS, UM, YOU KNOW, ANY OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS THAT ARE SORT OF GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY.

IT GETS PEOPLE IN, UH, TO THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE AND INTO THE DOWNTOWN.

AND IT'S A WAY OF, OF PROVIDING THE COMMUNITY WITH SPACE THAT THEY NEED TO DO CERTAIN THINGS THAT BENEFIT THOSE ALL OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS WITHIN THE COUNTY.

AND THEN LEVEL TWO LOOKS VERY SIMILAR BECAUSE YOU'VE SEEN IT BEFORE.

THIS IS SAME STACK.

WE DON'T CHANGE ANYTHING FOR LEVEL TWO.

THESE, THIS PARTICULAR FLOOR DOES NOT CHANGE BECAUSE THESE ARE THE BACK OF HOUSE FUNCTIONS FOR THE COUNTY.

SO ALL OF THESE FIT IN, IN NICE, UM, WAYS WHERE THEY'RE SORT OF TETRIS BLOCKS AND WE CAN JUST KIND OF FIT THEM IN HERE.

SO THERE IS NO CHANGE FROM THIS, FROM, UH, OUR OPTION ONE AND OPTION TWO, BUT THE BASEMENT LEVEL IS AGAIN, ANOTHER CHANGE.

AND THIS IS WHERE, BECAUSE WE'RE UTILIZING, UH, OR BUILDING A BRAND NEW BUILDING AND WE'RE UTILIZING, UH, THE LEVEL ONE, LIKE WE ARE WHERE WE'RE PROVIDING SOME COMMUNITY SPACE AND CERTAIN CEREMONIAL COURTROOM.

AND WE'RE NOT ACCOUNTING FOR ELECTIONS IN HERE BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO SHOEHORN THE MEN.

THEN WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE SOME DOCUMENTS, STORAGE, OR, OR GENERAL STORAGE FOR THE COUNTY, WHICH, UM, FROM MY MEMORY, FROM DOING THE MASTER PLAN, IT WOULD BE ACTUALLY A NICE ADDITION.

UH, SO, AND THAT KEEPS PEOPLE FROM GOING INTO THE BASEMENT.

SO FROM A CODE PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S ALSO NICE.

SO HERE'S THE SNAPSHOT VIEW.

SO HERE YOU HAVE YOUR COMPLETION.

SO WE HAVE ALL OF OUR LEVEL ONE, TWO, AND THE BASEMENT LEVEL, AND THEN WE SHOW HERE THAT WE WOULD, UH, DEMOLISH THE EXISTING ANNEX AND WE WOULD REBUILD IT.

SO OUR CONCEPT PLAN WHEN WE SHOWED THAT INITIALLY, WAS THAT WE WOULD BUILD SOMETHING JUST ABOUT THE SAME SIZE AS WHAT YOU HAVE NOW, BUT CERTAINLY BECAUSE IT WOULD BE, UH, FROM THE GROUND UP, UH, IT WOULD CERTAINLY BE MUCH MORE EFFICIENT AND THE LAYOUT WOULD BE SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGED FROM WHAT WE SEE NOW, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE BUILT FOR PURPOSE RATHER THAN SOMETHING THAT WE'RE JUST KIND OF WORKING INTO WHAT WE'VE GOT.

SO AGAIN, LIKE I MENTIONED, AND YOU'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE, THIS PARTICULAR OPTION REQUIRES THAT WE HAVE A PROPOSED ELECTIONS BUILDING OUT AT THE EOC SITE, AND THIS WOULD BE YOUR DEPARTMENT STACKS.

SO THIS IS WHERE EVERYBODY WOULD BE LOCATED.

SO YOU WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THAT INDIGENT HEALTH OFFICE HERE, OR THE VETERANS SERVICES HERE, IF YOU WANTED, IT'S A SMALL AMOUNT OF OFFICES.

IF YOU DIDN'T WANT THAT, WE CAN CERTAINLY PUT THEM BACK OUT AT THE FARM, BUT WE'VE LEFT THIS IN HERE SO THAT YOU CAN SEE, WE CERTAINLY WOULD STILL PLANNED FOR THEM AND HAVE ROOM FOR THEM.

SHOULD THE COUNTY WANT TO HAVE THEM IN THE ANNEX BUILDING? AND THEN WE WOULDN'T DO ANYTHING AT THE POOR FARM UNLESS THE COUNTY DECIDED WE WANTED TO PUT THAT INTO GEN HEALTH AND VETERANS SERVICES OFFICE OUT THERE, WHICH WE COULD CERTAINLY DO.

UH, AND THEN WE HAVE OUR ELECTIONS AT THE EOC SITE.

THIS IS THE COST SHEET FOR THIS PARTICULAR OPTION.

OPTION THREE B MOVES THE LOCATION OF THE ANNEX BUILDING.

SO AGAIN, WE WOULD BE RENOVATING THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE.

WE WOULD DIVEST THE ANNEX BUILDING AND WE WOULD BUILD A NEW ANNEX BUILDING OUT AT THE EOC SITE.

SO WE WOULD, CO-LOCATE THE EOC WITH THE ELECTIONS OFFICE.

AND WE WOULD PUT IT OUT ON THAT LARGE PIECE OF PROPERTY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TO BUY PROPERTY AND WE'VE GOT IT.

UH, AND SO, UH, THIS SEEMS LIKE THIS MIGHT ACTUALLY BE A NICE OPTION BECAUSE IT WOULD MOVE IT A LITTLE FURTHER INTO THE CENTER OF KAUFFMAN ITSELF AND GET SORT OF THIS HIGHER VOLUME, UH, FOR THE TAX OFFICE.

AND ALL OF THAT OUT OF THIS DOWNTOWN AREA PROVIDE A LOT OF PARKING, UH, AND SOME, UH, EASY ACCESS IN AND OUT.

SO, UH, WE CAN SEE FROM OUR VALUE MATRIX HERE, WE ACTUALLY START SEEING MORE GREEN THAN YELLOW.

AND, UH, THIS IS FOR, YOU KNOW, A VARIETY OF REASONS HERE BECAUSE PARKING CERTAINLY IS DEFINITELY BETTER.

UM, THE OPERATING COSTS

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UM, YOUR ROI CERTAINLY IS BETTER BECAUSE YOU'RE IMPROVING ON PROPERTY THAT YOU HAVE, YOU'RE DIVESTING SOMETHING THAT'S IN YOUR PORTFOLIO.

SO, UH, THIS IS A NICE OPTION IN TERMS OF YOUR VALUE MATRIX.

THIS OPTION IS EXACTLY LIKE WHAT YOU JUST SAW.

SO I'M GIVING YOU THE SNAPSHOT.

THE STACK IN THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE DOES NOT CHANGE, BUT THE LOCATION OF THE ANNEX IS WHAT CHANGES.

SO THIS IS WHAT THE CONCEPT STUDY LOOKS LIKE TO BE ABLE TO FIT THIS PROPOSED ANNEX, BUILDING OUT AT THIS EOC SITE.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, WE WOULD HAVE OUR ELECTIONS BUILDING AND IT WOULD HAVE ITS OWN PARKING, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF SPACE HERE WHERE WE ACTUALLY COULD BUILD OUR ANNEX BUILDING.

AND YOU WOULD STILL HAVE SPACE LEFTOVER ON THIS PARCEL.

SHOULD YOU NEED IT TO EXPAND IN ANY WAY? THIS CONCEPT ALSO MAINTAINS THIS, UH, SECURITY BARRIER THAT'S, UH, REQUIRED AND REQUESTED BY THE EOC.

SO WE CAN STILL MAINTAIN HAVING EVERYBODY BE COMPLETELY SEPARATE ON THIS PROPERTY.

THERE IS A CAVEAT TO THIS.

THE CAVEAT IS THAT THE BEST EGRESS COMING IN AND OUT OF THIS PROPERTY WOULD BE THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL.

AND THE COUNTY DOES NOT OWN THIS PARCEL.

IT IS FOR SALE.

WE KNOW HOW MUCH IT COSTS, BUT WE DO THINK THAT THIS, THE EGRESS COMING IN AND OUT, AND THIS ACCESS INTO THIS PARKING AND, UH, INTO YOUR TWO BUILDINGS WOULD BE BEST DONE ON THIS PARCEL.

WE HAVE RUN A STUDY WHERE WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO, AND IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THE COUNTY IS, UH, LEASING THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL OF LAND.

WE HAVE RUN A STUDY WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY ROUTE FOLKS AROUND AND GET THEM THROUGH HERE SO THAT WE STILL MAINTAIN OUR SECURE EOC PARKING.

THERE IS ANOTHER STUDY WHERE WE CAN BASICALLY FLOP THIS SECTION OF THE EOC PARKING, AND WE CAN FILL SOME OF THIS IN BACK HERE, AND WE WOULD SECURE AN ACCESS HERE, AND WE WOULD HAVE A CURB CUT AND ALLOW ACCESS AS A STRAIGHT SHOOT THROUGH HERE.

SO THERE ARE WAYS TO ACHIEVE THIS WITHOUT PURCHASING A SMALL LOT HERE, BUT IT'S OUR BELIEF THAT ACCESS WOULD BEST BE HAD THROUGH THIS ACCESS ON THIS SMALL PARCEL.

SO AGAIN, LIKE I MENTIONED, WHEN I FIRST BEGAN TALKING, EACH SCENARIO HAS ITS PROS AND CONS.

SO ALTHOUGH THIS IS A REALLY FANTASTIC PLACE TO BE ABLE TO PUT THE TAX OFFICE BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT WASHINGTON STREET HERE, WHICH WE KNOW IS A NICE, UH, UH, THROUGH FARE THROUGH KAUFFMAN, IT'S BUSY, THERE'S A LOT OF BUSINESSES.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THAT IT WOULD BE CERTAINLY EASY FOR FOLKS TO GET TO, UM, AND IT'S CERTAINLY MORE CENTRAL WITHIN KAUFFMAN ITSELF.

UM, WE, WE WOULD HAVE TO PROBABLY BUY THE SMALL PARCEL OF LAND.

SO HERE IS YOUR DEPARTMENT STACKS.

SO THIS WOULD BE YOUR LOCATING YOUR LOCATION FOR ALL OF YOUR FOLKS.

UM, AND SO, UH, YOU CAN SEE HERE, WE'VE GOT OUR ELECTIONS OUT AND OUR ANNEX BUILDING OUT HERE AT OUR EOC SITE AND THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE IN THE ANNEX FUNCTIONS.

UM, DON'T CHANGE, UH, FROM OUR PREVIOUS SLIDE.

THIS IS THE COST SHEET FOR THAT.

SO I ADDED OUR, UH, PROJECTED, UH, COST ARE FOR THE DIVESTMENT, FOR THE ANNEX AND HERE IN GREEN, DOES THAT MAKES US FEEL HAPPY WHEN WE SEE GREEN NUMBERS INSTEAD OF RED NUMBERS, OPTION THREE, SEE, AGAIN, THIS IS WHERE WE MOVE THE ANNEX INTO ANOTHER DIFFERENT LOCATION, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO USE A LOCATION THAT WE ALREADY HAVE.

SO AGAIN, THE SAME STACK IN THE COURTHOUSE, NOTHING CHANGES HERE, BUT WHAT YOU SEE IS THAT WE'RE BUILDING THE ANNEX ON THE EXISTING PARKING LOT SITE.

THERE IS ENOUGH SPACE THERE TO ACTUALLY BUILD THE ANNEX BUILDING ON THAT PARKING LOT AND STILL PROVIDE PARKING.

THAT'S TRUE.

WE STUDIED IT.

I SEE YOUR, I SEE YOUR EYEBROWS.

SO, UH, WE WOULD STILL THEN PROPOSE THAT WE WOULD MOVE THE ELECTIONS OUT TO THE EOC SITE FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT I'VE TOLD YOU BEFORE.

BUT NOW LOOK AT HOW MUCH GREEN WE GET IN OUR VALUE MATRIX.

SO WE'RE REALLY MOVING ON UP HERE, UH, AND THERE ARE SOME DEFINITE BENEFITS TO THIS.

SO YOU STILL GET TO MAINTAIN YOUR PARKING AND YOU GET TO HAVE A BRAND NEW BUILDING, UH, AND YOU GET TO DIVEST A BUILDING

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IT LOOKS EXACTLY THE WAY IT DID IN THE LAST, IN THE FIRST TWO.

SO IT'S THE SAME FUNCTIONS THAT ARE IN THAT HISTORIC COURTHOUSE.

AND WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A BRAND NEW BUILDING OUT, UH, IN OUR PARKING LOT AREA.

AND WE WOULD, AGAIN, STILL, WE'RE STILL PROPOSING THAT WE NEED TO HAVE THAT ELECTIONS BUILDING OUT AT THAT EOC SITE.

SO THIS WOULD BE YOUR DEPARTMENT STACK, AND THIS IS YOUR COST SHEET.

OKAY.

AND THIS IS THE FINAL OPTION.

SO THIS IS THREE D.

SO THIS IS THE ELECTION'S BUILDING IN THE SAME SPOT THAT I JUST TALKED ABOUT WHERE IT'S IN THE PARKING LOT.

BUT THEN WE PROPOSE THAT THE COUNTY AND THE CITY MAYBE TEAM UP AND MAKE THE SPACE WHERE WE ARE STANDING NOW INTO A GREEN SPACE.

AND IT BRIDGES THIS AREA.

IT MAKES THAT A HISTORIC TOWN SQUARE INTO SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE MORE USEFUL, MORE FUN, BRING PEOPLE IN IT MIGHT HELP REVITALIZE.

AND IT GIVES THE PEOPLE SOME PUBLIC SPACE, SOME GREEN SPACE IN THAT DOWNTOWN AREA.

IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR BUSINESS DOWN HERE, UH, FOR SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, CERTAINLY, UH, AND THE CITY MIGHT ACTUALLY REALLY LIKE TO BE ABLE TO PARTNER WITH YOU AND HAVE SOME GREEN SPACE.

SO IT, THE STACK IN BOTH OF THESE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE AND, UM, UH, ANNEX BUILDINGS DON'T CHANGE.

IT'S THE EXACT SAME, BUT WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS A PARK SPACE.

AND SO THIS WOULD MEAN THAT YOU WOULD DEMOLISH THE ANNEX BUILDING RATHER THAN DIVEST IT.

YOU WOULD ABSORB THE COST FOR DEMOLISHING.

AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED BY THE CITY AND THE COUNTY TO MAKE THIS INTO A GREEN SPACE.

BUT IT DOES GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY MAKE SORT OF THIS NICE COMPLEX DOWN HERE.

AND AGAIN, TO KIND OF BRIDGE THE TWO SERVICE BUILDINGS REALLY BREATHED SOME NEW INTO THIS DOWNTOWN SQUARE.

SO THE STACK DOESN'T CHANGE FROM WHAT I'VE SHOWN YOU BEFORE THE PROPOSED ELECTION SITE DOESN'T CHANGE YOUR DEPARTMENT STACK LIST DOESN'T CHANGE, BUT WE HAVE OUR COST SHEET.

SO WE WOULD, UH, DETERMINE EXACTLY THE COST, DEPENDING ON THE EXTENT OF THE RENOVATION FOR THE GREEN SPACE.

AND WE HAVE THIS TO BE DETERMINED BECAUSE THE COUNTY COULD PARTNER AGAIN WITH THE CITY AND IT COULD BE A PARTNERSHIP IN THE OVERALL COST.

SO WE DON'T WANT TO ADD A NUMBER IN THERE IF WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY IF THAT WOULD BE AN OPTION OR NOT, BUT WE LIKE TO PUT THIS IN FRONT OF YOU SO THAT YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY THINK THROUGH WHAT'S POSSIBLE DOWN HERE.

AND TO REALLY SEE THAT I PROMISE, I HEARD YOU WHEN WE HAD OUR MEETINGS AND I WORKED THROUGH ALL OF THE PROBLEMS AS BEST I COULD, AND I REALLY WANTED TO GIVE EVERYBODY THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THEIR IDEA, BE PUT TO PAPER AND TESTED.

AND SO WE'VE, WE'VE DEFINITELY DONE THAT.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE HERE TO SHOW YOU IS OUR VALUE MATRIX SO THAT YOU CAN REALLY SEE IT, EVERYTHING ALL TOGETHER SO THAT YOU CAN KIND OF DO THAT COMPARE AND CONTRAST.

AND OF COURSE, I'LL GIVE YOU A COPY OF OUR DECK HERE SO THAT YOU HAVE IT TO GO BACK THROUGH.

SO YOU CAN AGAIN, TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE VALUE MATRIX, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, SOME THINGS HAVE MORE BENEFIT THAN OTHERS.

SOME ARE LESS EXPENSIVE THAN OTHERS.

AND SO REALLY IT'S A MATTER OF COMING UP WITH THE, UH, THE BALANCE OF WHAT THE REAL VALUE IS, YOU KNOW, WHERE DOES THE COUNTY REALLY FIND THE BEST VALUE, THE BANG FOR THE BUCK? SO THIS IS A NICE WAY TO SORT OF TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THAT SNAPSHOT REALLY LOOKS LIKE, SORT OF ACROSS ALL OPTIONS.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DO WANT TO POINT OUT BEFORE I WRAP UP IS THAT IN EVERY OPTION WE HAVE REWORKED AND I'LL GO BACK UP HERE, PARDON ME FOR JUST A SECOND IN EVERY OPTION THAT YOU'VE SEEN, WE HAVE ACTUALLY, LET ME GO THIS WAY.

SORRY.

WE'VE REWORKED THE PARKING

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THE REASON WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT AND GET SOME STRIPING IN AT 45 DEGREES ON THIS SIDE IS BECAUSE ONCE ALL OF THOSE COURTS LEAVE THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE, WE DON'T HAVE THE NEED FOR ALL OF THAT PARALLEL PARKING.

THAT'S RESERVED FOR THE CONSTABLE AND THE JUDGES THAT ARE DOWN THERE.

AND SO WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ADD PARKING ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING, BUT SOMETHING ELSE TO THINK ABOUT IS WHEN ALL OF THESE FUNCTIONS LEAVE THIS HISTORIC COURTHOUSE, WE'RE NOT MORE VOLUME IN TERMS OF NEED FOR PARKING.

WE'RE ACTUALLY LOSING DEMAND FOR PARKING.

SO YOU ARE UNIQUELY POSITIONED IN THAT.

YOU CAN MAINTAIN THAT PARKING LOT BECAUSE IT IS ITS OWN LOT, OR YOU COULD SELL IT.

AND WE BELIEVE IN DOING SOME PARKING STUDIES BECAUSE YOU ARE IN FACT, UH, LOSING QUITE A BIT OF DEMAND DOWN HERE THAT YOU COULD SELL THE PARKING LOT AND STILL DO OKAY WITH THE OVERALL PARKING DEMAND IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T PUT ON OUR SHEET, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT THE COUNTY CAN TALK THROUGH.

WE THINK THAT THERE'S SOME REAL VALUE IN MAINTAINING THAT PARKING LOT, BUT IN REWORKING AND RE STRIPING REPAVING THE EXISTING ANNEX PARKING LOT, WHETHER NO MATTER WHAT OPTION YOU GO WITH, YOU ADD MORE PARKING SPACES AND WE ADD MORE PARKING SPACES ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE.

SO YOU'RE GAINING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF PARKING THAT YOU DON'T HAVE CURRENTLY DOWN HERE JUST IN REWORKING THESE TWO AREAS.

SO NO MATTER WHAT OPTION YOU GO WITH, YOU'RE GAINING QUITE A BIT OF PARKING, WHICH WOULD ALSO BE, UH, AN ADDED BENEFIT TO, UH, EVERYBODY IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

SO THE CITY MIGHT BE PLEASED WITH THAT, BUT I JUST THOUGHT I WOULD PUT THAT OUT THERE.

SO IT IS ALSO SOMETHING TO SORT OF CONSIDER, YOU CAN KEEP IT OR DIVEST IT.

OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO KEEP IT, WHICH IS WHY WE'VE WORKED ALL OF THESE SCENARIOS WITH THIS LOT IN THERE, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN DISCUSS.

SO THAT'S MY, THAT'S MY SPIEL TODAY.

I, I I'M, I'M IMPRESSED.

I'LL SAY THAT THE ONLY THING IS, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY ALUMINUM CANS WE'VE GOT TO PICK UP WHICH OPTION.

SO, I MEAN, THAT'S FOR US TO DO RIGHT.

AND SIT DOWN AND POWELL WELL, BUT I'M IMPRESSED WITH ALL THE OPTIONS THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US REALLY.

I REALLY AM.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.

I APPRECIATE IT.

OKAY.

WELL, IT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE EARLY FOR QUESTIONS.

Y'ALL MIGHT.

I WANT TO, I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, OBVIOUSLY WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS I'M HOPEFULLY I'M HOPING I CAN GET IT ON A LARGE FORMAT SHEET WHERE I CAN SEE A LITTLE BETTER AND WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO JUST STUDY IT FOREVER AT SOME POINT OR ANOTHER.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT WE'RE DOING.

RIGHT.

WELL, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, TWO FACTORS IN THAT IS EVERYDAY LIFE SEEMS TO GET MORE EXPENSIVE IN TERMS OF CONSTRUCTION, FUEL, LABOR, ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

I ACTUALLY, I ACTUALLY HAD SOME, I'VE BEEN WORRIED ABOUT INFLATION ANYWAY, AND I'VE GOT SOME FACTS AND FIGURES TO SHARE WITH THE COMMISSIONERS.

I GOT THIS, THIS ONE IS JUST A CHART I GOT OFF OF A WEBSITE, MATT CONSTRUCTION INFLATION.

IT DOESN'T GO PAST 22.

UH, AND THEN I PROMPT GALLAGHER.

I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE EVERYBODY, WE NEED TO BE THINKING THAT OUR MONEY IS DWINDLING AWAY.

UH, THE THING FROM GALLAGHER IS WHAT THEY SENT ME WITH THEIR LATEST, SOME OF THEIR LATEST BID PROPOSALS TO FAKE GOD, YOU WILL LOOK AT THIS.

SURE.

UM, I'M, I'M JUST, I JUST THINK WE NEED TO BE COGNIZANT THAT WE'RE LOSING ONE OR 2% OF OUR MONEY EVERY MONTH ON WELL, AND, AND, UM, THE, UH, TIMELINE CONTINUES TO PUSH OUT TO, RIGHT.

WHICH ALSO TIME IS MONEY, BUT, UM, YEAH.

UM, YOU CAN SEE FROM GALLAGHER'S PREDICTIONS, WHAT THEY'RE SEEING IN THEIR BIDS, YOU KNOW, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOK AT WHEN WE STUDY THESE KINDS OF THINGS IS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE'VE DONE ALL OF THE PROGRAMMING SESSIONS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED TO EACH OF THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, WE UNDERSTAND THE NEED AND YOU KNOW, WHAT'S TO COME.

AND SO THE LONGER THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WAIT, UM, YOU KNOW,

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AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, HIT A TIPPING POINT WHERE THEY'RE, UH, IN A SPOT WHERE IT'S NOT FUNCTIONING FOR THEM ANYMORE.

SO, AND THAT'S ONE OF OUR CONCERNS, CERTAINLY WITH THE ELECTIONS.

AND I THINK THEY'VE BEEN KIND OF SHUFFLED AROUND A FEW TIMES AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR A WAY TO BE ABLE TO WORK, UM, SO THAT THEY'RE EFFICIENT AND THEY CAN GET EVERYTHING TOGETHER.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK EVERYBODY'S THE SAME WAY, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'VE STUDIED.

SO, UH, YEAH.

UM, I'M WITH YOU, JUDGE, WE'VE GOT TO SORT SOMETHING OUT.

LIKE I SAY, IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE BID THINGS FROM GALLAGHER, LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE LOSING ONE OR 2% A MONTH OF YOUR MONEY.

UM, AND THE, THE OTHER THING IS, ARE WE GOING TO KNOW MORE IN TWO MONTHS THAN WE KNOW RIGHT NOW? I MEAN, AT SOME POINT OR ANOTHER, UH, HILLARY IS GOING TO GIVE US ALL THE OPTIONS AND SHE CAN COME UP WITH, AND WHAT'S OUR SPIN DATE DEADLINE ON THE, OH, ON ARPA MONEY IS 25 CONSTRUCTION.

OKAY.

UH, CONTRACT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE EVERYTHING CONTRACTED BY THE END OF 24.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE ALL THE CONSTRUCTION DONE BY THE END OF 25.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

[4. Raylan Smith; Discuss and consider one (1) year contract extension and CPIU price re-determination as presented by Five Star Correctional Services.]

NEXT UP, UH, RAYLAND DISCUSS, CONSIDER ONE-YEAR CONTRACT HAS SANCTIONED WITH CPI.

YOU PRICE REDETERMINATION FROM FIVE-STAR CORRECTIONAL SERVICES.

THERE'S ONE CUTE DOG, BUT THE SISTER IS UPSTAIRS FOR THE NEXT 30 MINUTES.

IF ANYONE WANTS TO COME BY.

UM, SO THIS ADAM IS TO EXTEND THE FOOD SERVICE CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE WITH FIVE-STAR CORRECTIONAL SERVICES.

THEY HAVE PROVIDED, UM, AN ADDED B.

THEY DO THIS EVERY YEAR.

THIS HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND HE'LL MAKE HIS ADJUSTMENTS IN HIS BUDGET REQUEST.

SO THIS IS JUST PERMISSION TO EXTEND THIS CONTRACT FOR ANOTHER YEAR QUESTIONS.

IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO EXTEND THAT CONTRACT AS PRESENTED? I'VE GOT A MOTION COMMISSIONER IN CASES OR A SECOND SEGMENT COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES BACK TO

[5. Raylan Smith; Discuss and consider the purchase of Firearm by Retired Sheriff Department Deputy, Rusty Grimes, in accordance with Commissioners Court Policy Pursuant to HB 1379.]

UH, DEPUTY GRAHAM'S HAS EXPRESSED INTEREST IN PURCHASING HIS GUN FROM THE COUNTY.

SO WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR PERMISSION TO REMOVE THAT FROM INVENTORY QUESTIONS.

DID YOU PURCHASE THE LAST ROOM WHEN HE TIRED THE FIRST? OKAY.

IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT PURCHASE HAS PRESENTED ON MIKE MCGEE? COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS MOVES TO APPROVE IS OUR SECOND SEGMENT COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE OPPOSED.

NO MOTION CARRIES.

[6. Commissioner Barber; Discuss/Consider approving the Interlocal Project agreement with the Town of Poetry for road maintenance.]

I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WE SEE ON A REGULAR BASIS.

UM, AND, UH, COMMISSIONER BARBARA IS UNABLE TO BE HERE WITH US TODAY, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION REQUIRED ON THIS.

IF THERE ARE NO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS WRITTEN, UH, COMMISSIONER KATE'S MOVES TO APPROVE THAT INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT.

IS THERE A SECOND, A SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE OPPOSED.

NO MOTION CARRIES

[7. Commissioner Barber; Discuss/Consider approving the 2022-2023 annual road report for Road & Bridge Pet. 3. ]

COMMISSIONER BARBER'S ITEM DISCUSSED CONSIDER APPROVING 2020 TO 23 ANNUAL ROAD REPORT FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE PRECINCT THREE, JUST FOR PUBLIC REMINDER.

THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS STATUTORILY REQUIRED AT ONE TIME, BUT, UH, THAT'S NO LONGER REQUIRED, BUT I THINK OUR COMMISSIONERS ARE DOING THEM ANYWAY, JUST TO KEEP GOOD RECORDS ON PROJECTS THAT THEY'RE DOING ON COUNTY ROADS.

UH, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE OR TO ACCEPT THAT, UH, ANNUAL ROAD REPORT? SO MOVE HAD A MOTION IN CASES ARE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I PROPOSE NO THAT MOTION CARRIES.

OKAY.

[8. Commissioner Cates; Discuss/Consider covering the cost of phone damage in the amount of $323.67 to Jerry Springer; and vehicle damage in the amount of $4,870.27 to Francisco Gallegos for Road & Bridge Pet. 4, using the general fund. ]

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WE DETERMINED THAT IN BOTH OF THESE INSTANCES OF DAMAGE TO PRECINCT FOR EMPLOYEES, PRIVATE PROPERTY, THAT, UH, OUR INSURANCE COVERAGE, UH, WAS NOT APPLICABLE IN THE FIRST INSTANCE DURING, UH, ONE OF THE RECENT STORMS, UH, JERRY SPRINGER, ONE OF OUR EMPLOYEES WAS OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT USING HIS CELL PHONE, UH, TO COORDINATE TREE REMOVAL.

UH, THE PHONE GOT KNOCKED OUT OF HIS HAND BY, UH, BY BRANCHES.

AND THEN BEFORE HE COULD RETRIEVE IT WAS RUN OVER BY A DEER.

AND, UH, SO HIS PHONE WAS, WAS, UH, IN SERVICE TO THE COUNTY.

SO WE'RE ASKING THAT, UH, THE COUNTY, UH, REIMBURSE JERRY SPRINGER FOR THE AMOUNT OF REPLACING HIS PHONE.

THE SECOND INSTANCE HAS TO DO WITH, UH, THE EMPLOYEE PARKING AREA AT THE PRECINCT FOR MAINTENANCE FACILITY, UH, INEXPLICABLY, A HUGE BRANCH BROKE OFF A TREE ON COUNTY PROPERTY FELL AND DID ALMOST $5,000 WORTH OF DAMAGE TO THE EMPLOYEE'S VEHICLE.

UM, SO WE'RE ASKING THAT THE COUNTY AUTHORIZE, UH, UH, THE PAYMENT FOR A REPAIR TO A FRANCISCO'S VEHICLE.

AND AGAIN, OUR INSURANCE, UM, MAYBE THE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, OUR ATTORNEYS COULD EXPLAIN IT BETTER, BUT FOR TECHNICAL REASONS, OUR INSURANCE DOESN'T REACH EITHER OF THESE ITEMS. SO, UM, ABSENT ANY QUESTIONS, I'D MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE PAYMENT OF BOTH OF THESE CLAIMS TO COUNTY EMPLOYEES.

OKAY.

WITH THAT MOTION TO APPROVE PAYING THESE TWO CLAIMS. UH, IS THERE A SECOND? CAN I ASK A QUESTION? WELL, LET'S SEE IF I CAN HAVE A SECOND, THEN WE'LL DISCUSS.

OKAY.

UH, DISCUSS, WELL, USUALLY WE TAKE A MOTION TO SECOND AND THEN DISCUSS, BUT GO AHEAD.

UH, WHY DID THE GENERAL FUND VERSUS YOUR ROAD AND BRIDGE FUND? UM, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY.

I DON'T KNOW.

THAT'S A QUALITY.

IS THAT A QUALIFIED HE'S PAID FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE MONEY? YEAH.

AND THEN, I MEAN, THAT WAS THE OTHER, THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION THAT IT COME OUT OF GENERAL FUND FROM COUNCIL.

IT WAS A RECOMMENDATION FROM COUNCIL.

IT WOULD NOT BE A RED AND BRIDGE EXPENSE.