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[1. To Discuss the Fiscal Year 2022-2023 Budget.]
WORKSHOP MEETING OF THE COMP AND COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT IS CALLED TO ORDER TODAY IS WHAT IS TODAY? THE 20, WHAT IS THE DATE? 2020 FIRST RIGHT THERE.IT'S A ONE 30 AND WE ARE, UH, IN THE COURTHOUSE ANNEX.
I THINK WE'LL START OFF TODAY.
WE'VE GOT SOME VERY DISTINGUISHED CELEBRITIES HERE WITH US TODAY.
PERHAPS THE LEAST DISTINGUISHED LONG WILL BE CONSTABLE.
YOU DON'T, WE WOULDN'T TEACH YOU IF WE DIDN'T LIKE YOU.
I WOULDN'T EXPECT ANYTHING I DO IN MY CAR AND MY TRUCK.
UM, THIS IS REVISED FROM THE ORIGINAL ONE THAT I HAVE SUBMITTED.
UH, BASICALLY I CUT, UH, ANOTHER, UH, $13,700 FROM THE INITIAL ONE THAT I SUBMITTED YOU GUYS.
UH, I'M ALSO REQUESTING THAT THIS PAYROLL REQUEST NUMBER ONE FOR THE ADMIN ASSISTANT BE REMOVED.
UM, I GUESS THE REASONING BEHIND REMOVING THAT IS I'VE BEEN DOING THAT JOB FOR TWO YEARS OF AN ADMIN ASSISTANT AND I'M, I'M WILLING TO KEEP ON DOING IT IF IT MEANS, UH, THE EMPLOYEES OF THE COUNTY GETTING COMPENSATED MORE.
SO, UM, I'VE ALSO, THIS BUDGET IS, UH, DECREASED FROM LAST YEAR BY 7.2% IS WHAT I DECREASED THE BUDGET.
UM, AND THAT'S WHERE THE INCREASE ON THE FUEL OF 10,000.
UH, WE STILL WERE ABLE TO DECREASE AT 7.2%.
UM, SO A LOT OF THE ONE LINE ITEM I REDUCED 67%, ONE 50%, ONE 40.
UM, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE ONE THAT'S 67%, THAT'S THE LINE ITEM THAT WE PUT THE, UH, UH, MONEY TO OUTFIT A NEW DEPUTY.
SO WE'RE REDUCING THAT BACK DOWN, UM, TO WHAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ACTUALLY UNDER WHAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN IF WE HADN'T HAD THAT NEW DEPUTY FROM, UH, 2021.
UM, SO WE LOWERED THE AMMO BUDGET, UH, OFFICE SUPPLY BUDGET PARTS, AND REPAIR WAS LOWERED MILES MILLS AND LODGING WAS LOWERED TRAINING AND EDUCATION BOND STAYED THE SAME, UH, LOWERED, UH, THE COMPUTER EQUIPMENT, UH, ALSO, SO THAT'S WHERE, UH, THAT'S WHERE WE GOT THE MONEY.
ARE YOU LOWERING THOSE ITEMS BASED ON GOING BACK AND LOOKING AT WHAT YOUR PREDICTED EXPENDITURES ARE FOR THIS YEAR? YES.
SO THE, THE, THE FUEL THAT I SENT YOU, UH, A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO FOR THAT BUDGET, I HEADED AT 39,000.
SO WHAT WE DID IS, UH, WE ESTIMATED A TANK OF FUEL PER VEHICLE PER WEEK AT $6 A GALLON.
SO TIGHTEN IT UP A LITTLE BIT, GOING BACK AND LOOKING.
I TOOK MY HIGHEST MONTH OF THIS YEAR, WHICH I BELIEVE WAS 2300 AND SOMETHING DOLLARS.
AND JUST MULTIPLIED THAT BY 12 TO GET THAT BUDGET, THAT'S GOING TO BE TIGHT.
THE 19,000, WE HAVE TWO MORE MONTHS LEFT TO GO IN THIS BUDGET.
WE USE ABOUT $2,300 A MONTH IN FUEL, AND I'VE GOT 5,000 IN THERE.
SO IT'S GOING TO BE TIGHT THIS YEAR.
UM, AND THAT 19,000, THAT'S THE ONLY RUNNING.
I DIDN'T RUN ONE CAR FROM OCTOBER TO MARCH BECAUSE I GOT THE NEW HIRE, HIT THE STREET IN MARCH.
SO, UM, THAT'S WHY THEY'RE GOING UP BECAUSE WE'RE RUNNING AN EXTRA CAR FOR, UH, FOUR, FIVE MORE MONTHS THAN WE DID THIS YEAR.
UM, THE UNIFORM IS WHERE WE HAD ALL THE MONEY TO OUTFIT THE DEPUTY.
AND THAT'S WHY IT'S GOING FROM 12,001 50 BACK TO 4,000 WHERE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN BEFORE WE HAD THAT.
UM, THE CUTER COMPUTER EQUIPMENT IS ALSO, UH, THAT WAS TO PURCHASE A DESKTOP AND A LAPTOP.
UH, WE'RE GOING BACK TO 3000 ON IT CAUSE WE HAVE, WE PURCHASED ALL THAT IN THIS BUDGET.
UM, SO THE BOTTOM LINE, THE BUDGET, IT LOWERED BY $4,340 OVER LAST YEAR LOWERED THE MONEY, BUT IT CAME TO 7%, 7.2.
UH, DOES HE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UH,
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APPOINT CONSTABLE WOODALL AS THE, UH, BUDGET OFFICER FOR THE COUNTY? I HAVE SIX OR SEVEN LINE ITEMS. THIS IS MINE, DUDE Y'ALL KNOW THAT.SO, UM, BUT IT'S STILL, I MEAN, I THINK ALL OF US ARE TRYING TO DO OUR PART, UM, AND CUTTING THIS, I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE TIGHT, BUT, UH, I WAS PROUD OF THE FUEL BUDGET GOING DOWN TO THE LAST AND I MIGHT HAVE $500 LEFT IN THAT ACCOUNT.
AND, UM, WELL, THE THING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, AND YOU MIGHT HAVE HEARD THIS, BUT WHAT WE, WE TALKED TO HIM THE OTHER DAY IS THAT, UH, THE COUNTY, I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE EVER DENIED OVER REQUESTS FOR A BUDGET AMENDMENT OR A BUDGET REVISION OR A LINE ITEM TRANSFER, YOU KNOW, TO ACCOMMODATE.
AND, AND I, I SAID THIS THE OTHER DAY, I THINK IF YOU HAVE A, IF YOU HAVE A PRETTY LONG EXTENSIVE BUDGET AND YOU NEVER RUN OVER ON ANY LINE ITEM, YOU PROBABLY MIGHT COULD TIGHTEN IT A LITTLE BIT.
SO ANYWAY, SO THAT'S A COMMITMENT I THINK THAT WE CAN STILL MAKE IS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ENOUGH IN CONTINGENCY TO TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT ARE TIGHTENING THEIR BUDGET UP AND, UH, TRYING TO BE REALLY CONSERVATIVE.
SO WE'LL, WE'LL TRY TO HAVE YOUR BACK.
AND THEN THE FUEL WAS, OF COURSE EVERYBODY, I ALL THE ARE, WE'RE ALL CONCERNED ABOUT THE FUEL.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BE.
SO, UM, I ONLY DID ONE LINE ON TRANSFER THIS YEAR.
I, KAREN, THAT WAS RECENTLY THOUGH.
SO, UM, BUT YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE, UH, JUST TO TRY TO CUT THIS TO SO ALL OF THESE COUNTY EMPLOYEES CAN GET COMPENSATED, SO THAT'S FANTASTIC.
ALL, ANYBODY QUESTIONS DON'T WEAR OFF? YOU MIGHT HAVE A QUICK, NO, I MEAN THE APPEAL YOU'RE RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, I, IN ALMOST EIGHT YEARS, I'VE BEEN HERE, I'VE NEVER USED UP MY WHOLE LINE OF THEM ON APPEAL.
I HAD TO ADD 50,000 TO IT THIS YEAR.
I MEAN, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST HOW BAD IT IS.
AND I HAVE NOT, AND WILL NOT TELL THE GUYS TO PARK THEIR CARS BECAUSE OF FUEL AND WE WILL NOT DO THAT.
SO ROSE I'LL COME TO YOUR COUNTY BARN.
SO AS LONG AS IT'S THE CONSTABLE SHOW, HOW ABOUT CONSTABLE MAYFIELD? JUST KIND OF OUT OF ORDER, BUT SINCE Y'ALL ARE HERE SINCE Y'ALL ARE HERE, YOU MIGHT AS WELL TAKE IT OFF.
NO, MAYBE YOU'VE BEEN DISPLACED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT.
THEY JUMPED AHEAD OF YOUTH PERIOD.
THE, UH, SECOND PAGE WAS THE ORIGINAL BUDGET THAT I HEARD IN A MONTH OR SO AGO WHEN WE STARTED THIS.
AND LIKE CONSTABLE WOULD ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO RESEND THE REQUEST FOR A NEW DEPUTY AND PART OF THAT OPERATING BUDGET THAT WAS GOING TO HAVE TO OUTFIT THAT, UH, THE TOP PAGE IS WHAT I'M PROPOSING TO BE ACCEPTED.
NO, MINE'S GOING UP 14,000, BUT THAT'S WITH FUEL GOING TO 25,000, UH, THE MISCELLANEOUS GOING UP 2000 AND THAT'S FOR BUYING EMERGENCY EQUIPMENT LIKE BALLISTIC SHIELDS, HALLIGAN TOOLS, STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO HAVE IN OUR POSSESSION IN THIS DAY AND AGE.
AND THEN A 500 ON UNIFORMS AND AMMUNITION.
I KNOW THAT'S AN INCREASE IN MY OPERATING BUDGET, BUT HISTORICALLY AS KAREN CAN POINT OUT, MY BUDGET HAS BEEN SHOESTRING ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE PREVIOUS CONSTABLE.
UH, SO ACTUALLY OUR OPERATING BUDGETS ARE GETTING PRETTY SIMILAR NOW.
AND, UH, BUT THAT WAS TAKEN 24,528 OUT OF THE ORIGINAL PROPOSED FOR OPERATING, UH, SEAN, HOW DOES THAT STACK UP TO WHAT YOU, WHAT THAT PROJECTED EXPENDITURE LINE WAS? THE ONE THAT WE, THAT I SENT YOU ALL THAT SHOWED.
I THINK I ATTACHED THAT SPREADSHEET THAT SHOWED WHAT EVERYBODY'S, WHAT YOUR EXPECTED EXPENDITURES FOR THIS YEAR WILL BE.
DO YOU REMEMBER? UH, METAL? I'M JUST CURIOUS, UM, W YOU'RE MAKING ADJUSTMENTS BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A LOT MORE LAND AREA.
I MEAN, I DIDN'T GET A LOT OF ROADS.
A LOT OF THE ROADS WERE PRIVATE, BUT OUR LANDMASS GREATLY INCREASED WITH THE REDISTRICTING.
AND THE AMOUNT OF ROOFTOPS THAT WE TOOK IN, AND I MEAN, THEY'RE HANDING OVER THE KEYS DAILY AND THEY'RE BREAKING GROUND DAILY ON THIS.
AND I MEAN, ANOTHER DEPUTY WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE FOR COVERAGE, BUT, UH, WE'RE WILLING TO SACRIFICE THAT IF YOU KNOW, THE Y'ALL DECIDED TO GIVE US A MEANINGFUL RAISE, UH, TO THE SALARIES AND WE'LL JUST DIG OUR HEELS IN
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EVEN MORE AND JUST MAKE IT HAPPEN.I KNOW I USED TO NEVER SEE YOUR CAR.
YOU KNOW, IT'S KINDA WELL, I MEAN, YEAH.
BE GLAD YOU'RE NOT IN THE FRONT DOOR.
VERY MUCH REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
UM, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM OR ANYTHING? NO, THANK YOU.
DAVID W WE'LL GET THE LAST CONSTABLE IN HERE, CONSTABLE BROOKS.
SO I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO RUN OFF THE SAME BUDGET AS WE DID LAST YEAR.
UH, I WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE THE ADMIN ASSISTANT NAME FOR THE, UH, DEPUTY CLERK AND REMOVE THE, UH, THE NEW DEPUTY POSITION.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD, UH, PAT POST AND WHEN HE RETIRED FROM THREE AND HE CAME TO US, HE DIDN'T GET HIS CERTIFICATE PAY PROFICIENCY PAY.
I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT FOR HIM.
AND THEN 10,000 ON THE GUESTS AND WOOL CONSTABLE ON YOUR PROFICIENCY PAY, WE NEED TO GET THAT CERTIFICATE STUFF SENT TO HR AND HR NOTIFIES.
SO WE CAN INCLUDE, WELL, YOU, I GUESS YOU PAY HIM RIGHT.
YOU JUST KEEPS IT UP FOR HIS, UH, HE HASN'T HAD ANY PAY SINCE HE CAME TO US FOR THE CERTIFICATE PAY.
WELL AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE A LOT.
UM, YOU MAY HAVE A QUESTION FOR CONSTABLE BROOKS.
SHOW THE EMPLOYEES AND PRETTY SAFE.
ARE YOU HERE TO SPEAK? THOSE ARE.
OKAY, THEN LET'S HEAR FROM DAVID ASHEVILLE.
YEAH, THERE'S A, THERE'S AN ATTORNEY IN THE COUNTY THAT I SEE IN MY OFFICE.
OCCASIONALLY IN THE FIRST TIME I EVER SAW HIS NAME COMING TO MY OFFICE.
I THOUGHT MAYBE IT APPLE'S A LAWYER AND, UH, WAS ON A PROBATE MATTER.
AND THERE'S ANOTHER DAVID NASHVILLE.
UH, SOME PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT INFORMATION, BUT, UH, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR, UH, HEARING ME.
I DID NOT BRING THE BUDGET UP FELLA.
I'M NOT CHANGING WHAT WAS PRESENTED, BUT WHAT WAS PRESENTED, UH, BY THE SHELTER DID HAVE SOME SIGNIFICANT INCREASE.
UH, WE ARE REALLY STRUGGLING WITH JUST THE PAY RAISES AND JOB MARKET RIGHT NOW.
UH, WE HAD TO ADD A COUPLE OF PEOPLE AND, UH, GIVE RAISES BECAUSE, UH, WE HAD A NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT WERE MAKING NINE AND $10 AN HOUR AND THEY CAN GO ANYWHERE RIGHT NOW, PRETTY MUCH AND GET $16 AN HOUR.
THESE ARE PART-TIME PEOPLE, RIGHT? YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, YES, YES, YES.
UM, AND, UM, DO WE HAVE SO MANY TRAINING REQUIREMENTS AND STIPULATIONS BY THE STATE THAT, UH, IT'S NOT LIKE JUST A JOB YOU WALK INTO AND, YOU KNOW, UH, THEN JUST CHECK PEOPLE OUT AT THE STATION OR WHATEVER, AND I'M NOT PUTTING THAT DOWN.
ALL I'M SAYING IS WE REALLY HAD TO MAKE SOME CHANGES.
WE HAD TO ADD, UH, GIVE SOME PAY RAISES IN SALARY AND STUFF.
UH, AND, AND THE REASON THAT AFFECTED US IS BECAUSE I'VE HAD TWO OR THREE PEOPLE TAKE OTHER JOBS LEAVE AND THEY TELL ME IT'S JUST CAUSE SALARY, YOU KNOW? UM, BUT IT, SAME TIME THEN I HAVE TO OVERWORK OTHER PEOPLE WHICH CAUSES A BUDGET ISSUE, YOU KNOW, WITH PEOPLE HAVING TO GET OVERTIME AND ALL THAT.
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THIS UP JUST WANTED, UM, I KNOW OUR BUDGET INCREASED.I KNOW IT CHANGED, BUT I WANTED TO EXPLAIN, GIVE, SEE IF Y'ALL HAD ANY QUESTIONS, BUT LET YOU KNOW WHY WE HAD TO MAKE THOSE ALL IN ONE YEAR, UH, SALARY INCREASES, UH, TO HELP RETAIN THE EMPLOYEES WE HAVE AND THAT WE HAVE TO, UH, HIRE SOMEBODY ELSE.
CAUSE I'VE HAD TWO OR THREE LEAVE.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS YOU DID, I THINK TWO YEARS AGO, YOU SHIFTED YOUR STAFFING.
AND JUST BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF YOUR WORK, YOU HAD SOME POSITIONS THAT WERE FULL-TIME POSITIONS THAT WERE MORE, REALLY MORE ATTUNED TO BEING PART-TIME THAT'S RIGHT? YES.
SO THAT WAS AN IMPACT THAT YOU, THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT THING THAT YOU DID.
AND THAT WAS, I THINK THAT'S HAD A LOT OF VALUE.
AND LIKE, I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T THINK OF US LIKE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICER, WHATEVER, BUT WE'RE 24 7, YOU KNOW, WE'RE AROUND THE CLOCK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT OFF EATING AND IT'S NOT, IT'S OUR WEEKENDS.
I HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY THERE ALL THE TIME.
AND I SAY, SOMEBODY, AT LEAST TWO PEOPLE THERE AROUND THE CLOCK, 24, 7, 365.
AND SO I BRING THAT UP JUST TO SAY, YOU KNOW, IT JUST TAKES A LITTLE, FEW MORE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, TO COVER ALL THAT TOO.
SO, I MEAN, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GET AWAY FROM THAT WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEBODY TO TAKE CARE OF THIS.
ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO BRING YOU UP.
LIKE, SO I KNOW OUR BUDGET HAS CHANGED.
I KNOW IT INCREASED, BUT JUST THE JOB MARKET RIGHT NOW.
AND LIKE I SAID, I JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN THAT AND GIVE YOU ALL INFORMATION AND SOMETHING BY HAVING QUESTIONS.
UH, BECAUSE I KNOW, LIKE I SAY, CHANGES ARE AFFECTING THE BUDGET.
WE DID NOT INCLUDE THAT FUND AND THIS PACKET SIMPLY BECAUSE IT'S NOT A TRANSFER FROM GENERAL, THAT'S ALL STATE MONEY AND DONATIONS AND THE OTHER FUNDS.
YOU SEE, WHAT I ASKED YOU FOR WAS OPERATIONAL THE OPERATIONS.
SO I DIDN'T WANT DAVID TO THINK Y'ALL WERE LOOKING LIKE, WE MEAN IT'S NOT IN HERE.
WELL, YESTERDAY HE SENT THAT OUT AND I WAS LIKE, I DON'T SEE US ANYWHERE ON THERE, BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO ASSUME SO ANYWAY.
SHERIFF'S AS LONG AS YOU'RE HERE, YOU MIGHT AS WELL START TALKING OR WE CAN WAIT TIL TWO 10, I GUESS I'D LIKE TO WAIT.
IT'S WRONG ANYWAY, HUH? YEAH, BUT IT'S BASICALLY YES, SIR.
THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING OF, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN SITTING HERE BEING BAYLOR FOR THE COURTS.
THIS WEEK AND LISTENING AND HEARING THE CONCERNS AND THE TALK.
SO FIRST THING WE'LL START OFF WITH, I GUESS, GO TO THE BACK PAGE.
LET'S TALK ABOUT COMMUNICATIONS.
UH, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD PLACE TO START.
UH, CAUSE I'VE, I'VE REALLY WORKED HARD TO TRY TO GO THROUGH OUR BUDGET AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN SAVE SOME MONEY.
CAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, UH, AS WE COME TO YOU BEFORE TALKING ABOUT HOW, UH, THE WHOLE COUNTY NEEDS SOME RAISES HOW WE NEED TO ALSO GET RAISED FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND TALK ABOUT THE STEP BY THAT.
WE ALSO PRESENTED TO Y'ALL BACK IN PROBABLY A MONTH AGO.
BUT AS FAR AS DISPATCH, LET'S LOOK AT IT, WE NEED TO ADD AT LEAST THREE DISPATCHERS.
AND JUST TO TALK ABOUT THAT DISPATCH CALLS FOR SERVICES UP 22% YEARS TODAY, AS WE SPEAK RIGHT NOW, UH, DOING THAT, ADDING THAT THREE.
AND EVEN, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE ADDING THREE THAT'S ONLY 9.6% OF MY WORKFORCE THAT WE'RE ADDING TO HAVE A 22%
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INCREASE.THE HIGHLIGHTED HERE, IT SAYS ADD TO, IS THAT SUPPOSED TO BE WELL, THERE'S ONE WARRANT CLERK UNDERNEATH THERE.
SO, SO I WENT AHEAD AND LOOKED IN THERE AND SEEN A FEW THINGS AND LOOK AT THE, UH, THE TRENDS THAT WE HAVE.
IF YOU NOTICE I PUT IN THE TRENDS THAT I HAD OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'VE STARTED, STOPPED DOING THAT, BUT IT REALLY HELPED ME WITH THE AUDITOR, WITH OUR, WE CAN SAY OUR TRENDS.
SO I'LL PUT 21 AND 22 IN MY DEAL WHERE I CAN SEE WHERE TRANS CAUSE ALTER HELPED ME WITH THAT.
AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO SEE TRENDS MOVING THROUGH THE, UH, MY BUDGET, BECAUSE IT DID HELP ME FIND A MISTAKE WITHOUT THAT, UH, BEFORE ON IN FIVE 60.
SO WHAT I DID IS WOUND UP CUTTING JUST A LITTLE BIT.
SO IT'S ONLY A 1.5 INCREASE ON OUR OPERATING BUDGET, BUT THERE'S THE EXPANSE OF ADDING THE DISPATCHERS, UH, THE THREE AND THEN LOOKING AT THE, ACROSS THE BOARD, WHATEVER Y'ALL DECIDE THERE AND ALSO LOOKING AT CHANGE IN THE, UH, STEP PAY PROGRAM TO HELP US WITH THAT.
ANY QUESTIONS OVER DISPATCH? SO THE 1.5% INCREASE IN THE OPERATION DOESN'T INCLUDE.
THAT WAS NOT, I DID NOT KNOW SALARIES.
BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS.
SO I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT OPERATING THIS BEANS, NOT INCLUDING SALARIES.
CAN YOU JUST REMIND ME WHO ALL DID WE DISPATCH FOR? IT'S EASIER TO SAY, WHO DO WE NOT DISPATCH FOR FARNEY AND TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE.
EVERYBODY ELSE, ALL OTHER, ALL OTHER FIRE DEPARTMENTS, ALL THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE, UH, PDS.
I THINK WE GOT EIGHT PDS TOTAL.
UH, SO, AND Y'ALL TAKE CARE OF YES, YES, YES.
THAT'S WHY THE CALLS FOR SERVICES.
SO UNGODLY AND TRYING TO FIND DISPATCHERS, WHICH I KNOW DISPATCHERS ARE TOUGH.
UH, I HAVEN'T CHIEF'S MEETING YESTERDAY.
TERRIBLE'S EVEN DOWN SIX, BUT THEY'RE NOT PAYING AS MUCH AS WE ARE FOR ONE SPOT FOR ONE SPOT.
AND THEN THEY'LL PROBABLY CHANGE YOUR LITTLE FLYER HERE PRETTY SOON.
ANY QUESTIONS ON DISPATCH? NO, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO, SOMETIMES I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY DO IT.
I'M TELLING YOU IT'S A YOUNG PERSON GAME.
I'VE HAD ONE JUST THE OTHER DAY THAT WE THOUGHT DO PRETTY GOOD, BUT APPARENTLY, UH, JUST THE STRESS AND, AND, AND THE OVERWHELMING CALL VOLUME OVER THE RADIO AND ALL SHE'S JUST DECIDED THAT SHE ISN'T GONNA QUIT, BUT WE TALKED HER INTO GOING IN THE JAIL AND SEE IF SHE'D LIKED THAT ENVIRONMENT.
SO WE'VE, WE'VE TRIED TO SALVAGE ANY EMPLOYEE AND MOVED HER OVER AND HOPEFULLY THAT'S GOING TO WORK, BUT TO JUST THE STRESS LEVEL OVER THERE IS SO HIGH AND WHICH YOU CAN TALK TO ALL THE CONSTABLES HERE THAT, UH, WE DO A PRETTY GOOD JOB, BUT I MEAN, WE'RE, IT'S, IT'S TOUGH GETTING NEW EMPLOYEES AND TRYING TO TRAIN THEM AND GET THEM THROUGH ALL THIS.
Y'ALL SEEN WHEN I PRODUCE IT, HOW MUCH IT COST US TO TRAIN A DISPATCHER AND HOW MANY HOURS IT TAKES MORE TO TRAIN TO DISPATCH.
UH, I GUESS WHEN YOU GO TO THE JAIL, WHICH IS THE 5 61 BUDGET, SAME THING THERE.
I WENT THROUGH THERE AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I'VE TRIED TO DO MY BEST WITH THE JAIL, BUT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT THE TRENDS AND WHERE WE'RE GOING AND EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON, UH, WHAT HAD TO GO UP, I DID DROP A FEW, THREE ITEMS THAT I COULD DROP.
UH, ONE OF THEM WAS, UH, INMATE AND, UH, WE KIND OF MOVED THAT AROUND AND DROPPED IT SINCE I BROUGHT IT UP.
THE OTHER THING WAS MAIL LODGING.
UH, I JUST WENT AHEAD AND DROP THAT BACK DOWN, EVEN THOUGH, UH, MILEAGE AND STUFF IS COSTING US MORE MOTEL.
SO NOW WE'RE AT 2 0 5, BUT THE BIG INCREASES THAT YOU CAN SEE IS I'VE HAD TO GO UP ON GROCERIES.
UH, EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT GROCERY IS, UH, OUR MEDICAL.
UH, IF YOU CAN LOOK AT THE TRENDS OF THAT, I I'M BEING VERY CONSERVATIVE IN THAT BECAUSE IT'S FOUR 50, BUT YOU'LL LOOK LIKE A 19.
WE DID FIVE, 10 ACTUALIZE RIGHT NOW IS 683.
SO WE'VE ALWAYS HAD THREE 50 AND ALWAYS HAD TO MAKE UP A BUNCH.
SO THE REASON I PUT THAT IN THERE IS, AS THE AUDITOR ALWAYS TELLS ME, IS MAKING SURE THAT WE TRY TO COVER IT THE BEST WE CAN WITH THE TRENDS.
AND WE'RE HOPING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MEDICAL EASE IN THE NEXT YEAR.
THAT'S WHAT I'M PLANNING FOR, BUT I CAN NEVER PREDICT THAT THE MEDICAL IS JUST MEDICAL AND WE TRY TO DO OUR BEST WITH IT.
BUT FAR AS, UH, AND THEN THE MEDICAL CONTRACT, IT WENT UP A LITTLE BIT AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE, WE PRETTY WELL STAYED THE SAME BESIDES THE EQUIPMENT REPAIR.
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THAT UP A SMALL AMOUNT, UH, BECAUSE IT'S JUST, IF YOU LOOK AT THE QUICK MINI REPAIR, YOU CAN SAY WE SPENT 187,220 TO 2 0 5.AND THEN RIGHT NOW, 180 2 I'M TELLING THE DRAINS IS I'VE ALWAYS TOLD YOU OUT THERE IT'S COST ME 5,000 TO 10,000 A DRAIN.
AND WE TRY TO DO WHAT WE CAN THROUGH OUR INSURANCE.
I THINK INSURANCE HELPED US OUT A LITTLE BIT IN OUR LAST REALLY BIG BILL OVER, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S A BIG ISSUE THAT I DON'T SEE STOPPING ANYTIME SOON.
THEY DID PAY FOR US WHEN WE HAD, I THINK, EIGHT DRAINS AT ONE TIME AND WE WORKED A KNIFE.
I DIDN'T THINK THEY'D COVER IT, BUT THEY DID.
CAUSE IT SAVED A LOT OF MONEY IN BRAIDS WITH THAT.
YEAH, I THINK WE ALL WERE, WE TRIED IT AND HE WORKED BECAUSE THEY'RE SENDING THE CONTRACT PROMISE.
THE BUILDING ISSUE, IT IS MOVING THAT BUILDING IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO MOVE ON TIO.
WHAT WE'RE RUNNING INTO IS WHEN THEY DIG THAT HOLE, I DON'T, I WASN'T, I SEEN PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION.
I WASN'T REALLY INVOLVED IN IT, BUT THERE IS HARD CLAY DOWN THERE AND THEY HAVE TO DIG ALL THAT OUT.
SOME OF IT'S SIX FOOT DEEP, THEY DIG IT OUT, FIX THE PIPE, BUT I TOLD THEM, QUIT FILLING IT BACK IN WITH THAT STUFF AND FILL IT BACK IN WITH SAM WHERE IT CAN MOVE.
SO THEY'VE BEEN DOING THAT EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN SHERIFF FIXING THAT AND CHIEF DEPUTY IN THE JAIL.
SO I'M HOPING NIM AND MO THEY WILL MOVE FARCE AND WE'LL JUST HAVE TO, HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET THEM ALL DONE IN ONE DAY.
HOPEFULLY I'LL BE GONE FOR, WE DO THAT, HUH? I GUESS.
BUT THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF OUR BIGGEST BATTLES OUT THERE THAT, AND ELECTRICITY, BECAUSE EVERYTHING'S MOVING, ELECTRICITY IS ALSO BREAKING IN AREA.
SO WHERE WE USED TO HAVE IT IN CONDUIT IN THE GROUND, WE'RE HAVING TO RUN IT UP INTO CEILINGS NOW.
SO THE BUILDING IS MAJORLY MOVING AND I DON'T, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW I CAN CONTROL THAT.
I DON'T EITHER, BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S BEEN MOVING A LONG TIME.
CAUSE I KNOW WHEN I I'M COMING OFF THE CONCRETE, I CAN'T WATCH IT.
AND I KNOW IT'S YOUR WATER BILL WENT AND KEPT GOING UP, UP, UP.
AND FINALLY I SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING WRONG.
AND THEY FINALLY FOUND THE LEAK OUT THERE FOR THE GROUND FLOOR.
SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A BATTLE, BUT AT THE SAME THING AS ALEXA, THERE'S NO NEW EMPLOYEES IN THERE.
HE'S JUST TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT EITHER 5,000 POUNDS.
SO THE STEP PAY ON THAT, BUT ANY QUESTIONS ON THE JAIL? UH, JUST KIND OF AN ASIDE QUESTION.
SO WHAT'S YOUR STAFFING, UH, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE YOU DOWN IN THE JAIL AND THE JAIL RIGHT NOW? UH, WE JUST HIRED 11, SO WE'RE PROBABLY ABOUT NINE.
SO IT'S BUILDING BACK UP EVERY, HOW MANY ARE YOU DOWN DURING THE YEAR? IS THAT ABOUT RIGHT NOW? AH, MAN, I'M NOT GONNA SAY THAT ON THE PROBLEM.
YOU KNOW, AND WE GETTING THAT, THAT STAFFING, I'M NOT BIG, YOU KNOW, WHEN I'M HIRING AND, AND STOP, I'M DONE.
I'M GOOD AT THAT, BUT I'M NOT BIG ON WANTING TO LAY BACK SALARIES.
WHEN I KNOW I GOT THE POSITIONS AND NEEDED THE BUDGET TO POSITION, SO I'M HOPING WE'RE GOING TO BE FULL BECAUSE IF I CHANGE THE INTEREST RATES MORE AND THINGS CHANGED IN THE ECONOMY, PEOPLE COME TO GOVERNMENT.
THAT'S THE ONLY GOOD THING WE GOT GOING TO US WHEN THAT HAPPENS RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 129 POSITIONS IN JAIL.
YEAH, MY, YEAH, MY QUESTION WAS, I WONDER HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE VACANT, SO, BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO AVERAGE IT ON THIS YEAR, THAT'S FOR SURE.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF SAD WHEN YOU CAN'T EVER GET FULL.
THEY'RE ALL BLACK ONE FROM BEING FULL.
SO BEFORE EVERYTHING WENT, PSYCHOTOMY WENT REALLY GIRLY.
AND PEOPLE DECIDED TO CHASE MOMA.
WELL, NO, AND I, I WOULD RE REMIND YOU BACK ONE WAY, UH, NEAR THE PRESENTATION OF WHAT, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND THE TURNOVER AND THE TRAINING RATE IS IF YOU'RE A MEMBER OF THE LAST THREE YEARS, UH, IF YOU TAKE THE DEPUTIES, THE TENSION AND COMMUNICATION, 2.8 MILLION REALLY ABOUT 2.9 MILLION OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS.
SO YOU GOT TO REALIZE THAT WE GOT TRAINING WALKING OUT THE DOOR AT THE DEPARTMENT AS A WHOLE OF 962,509.
SO THAT'S HOW MUCH MONEY WE GOT WALKING OUT THE DOOR IN TRAINING A YEAR.
AND I AVERAGE OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, THAT WAS IN THE JAIL.
UH, NO LET'S TOTAL IN THE DEPARTMENT.
IF YOU WANT TO TALK, IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE JAIL, THE JAIL OVER THE LAST THREE, THREE YEARS WAS 1.6.
SO IT'S COSTING US ABOUT $556,000 A YEAR IN TRAINING, LOOKING AT SURE IF I WERE EVER LOOKED AT, AT A, SOME KIND OF AN EMPLOYMENT CONTRACT
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FOR ADVANCED TRAINING, WHERE THERE WOULD BE A REQUIREMENT FOR THE EMPLOYEE TO SIGN A CONTRACT, TO STAY FOR X AMOUNT OF TIME.NO, I DON'T THINK I'VE ALWAYS, THE ONLY TIME WE DO THAT IS IF I'M SENDING A JAILER TO SCHOOL AND PAYING FOR THEIR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND I'VE GOT A TWO YEAR CONTRACT WITH THEM.
CAUSE THAT'S, WHAT'S, THAT'S, WHAT'S BEEN HELPING ME AND KINDA TELL YOU HOW, UH, I KNOW THIS IS OPEN, MEET NEW PEOPLE OR LISTEN TO YOU.
AND THIS IS MY CONCERN, BUT YEAH, IF YOU'LL LOOK AT THAT, UH, YOU CAN SAY ON OLD TERRELL, SOME WENT UP AGAIN, BUT IF YOU LOOK DOWN THERE AT THE RECRUIT, THIS IS MY PROBLEM, BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO GET JEALOUS TO GO FROM ME TO SCHOOL.
WELL, THERE, THEY CAN GO GET 55,000 MORE THAN WHAT MY DEPUTY GO OVER AND GO TO SCHOOL.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S A PRETTY SAD DAY WHEN THEY'RE PAYING A RECRUIT MORE THAN I'M PAYING A DEPUTY, THAT'S ALREADY LICENSED TO GO SCHOOL.
UM, ANOTHER THING, A LOT OF THE DEPARTMENTS, I BELIEVE TERRIBLE DOES IT AS WELL AS THE, UH, UM, WHEN OFFICER TRANSFERS FROM ONE DEPARTMENT TO ANOTHER, THE, THE, UH, WE'RE ABLE TO BASICALLY IT'S LIKE FIVE YEARS EXPERIENCE.
FOR EXAMPLE, THEY GET TO START AT THAT NEW DEPARTMENT WHERE THEY WOULD BE AT FIVE YEARS IF THEY WERE THERE AND WE OFFER ANYTHING LIKE THAT FOR W WE HADN'T REALLY DONE THAT BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S A WIN FOR TRYING TO RECRUIT, BUT IT'S NOT GOOD FROM AROUND A LITTLE APARTMENT.
AND I'LL TELL YOU, BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU GET A BRAND NEW DEPUTY THAT STARTED HERE, HE AIN'T GOT THE YEARS, BUT THEN I BRING SOMEBODY IN RIGHT BEHIND THEM AND WE GIVE THEM TO STEP FIVE.
WELL, THEY'RE ALREADY MAKING MORE THAN THEY ARE.
SO IT SAID IT'S A DOUBLE-SIDED LITTLE ORANGE, BUT I MEAN, YOU COULD GET, WE CAN GET MORE SENIOR PEOPLE IN IF YOU WON'T KNOW THE TRUTH DOING THAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT A COUNTY NIGHTMARE THAT WOULD BE TO, WHY WOULD IT BE AN ACCOUNTING NIGHTMARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH, OKAY.
SAY I GET THEM MASTER COMING IN, OR HE'S GOT FOUR YEARS OF PARENTS AND WE DO IT BY THE STEP THAT THAT'S QUITE A BIT OF MONEY.
I'D HAVE TO BUDGET FOR THE WORST CASE.
OR LIKE YOU SAY, YOU, YOU SAY, WELL, WE CAN COME TO YOU AND ASK FOR IT.
I MEAN, I THINK YOU COULD ALWAYS BE ABLE TO COME UP AND SAY, HERE'S A, HERE'S THE REALITY, YOU KNOW, WE NEEDED ADDITIONAL, UH, WE'RE GOING TO NEED SOME ADDITIONAL SALARY THIS YEAR.
IF YOU COULD BRING IN AN EXPERIENCED OFFICER, THAT'S WILLING TO COME HERE TO GET THAT LATERAL TRANSFER.
IT MIGHT BE A, THAT'S THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF TRAINED AND WALKING OUT THE DOOR TO BE TRAINED AND WALKING IN THE DOOR.
AND THAT, THERE'S NOT A DOUBT ABOUT IT.
WE'VE JUST GOT TO TRAIN THEM OUR WAY AND A SHERIFF.
WHAT, I MEAN, I KNOW THAT I'VE SEEN THESE FLYERS THAT TALKS ABOUT MEDICAL AND DENTAL.
WHAT, WHAT'S THEIR, UH, COMPENSATION PACKAGE COMPARED TO OUR FRIENDS IT'S FAIRLY CLOSE, FOR INSTANCE, TERRIBLE.
THEY, THEY PAY A EMPLOYEE MEDICAL.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S FAIRLY CLOSE.
I'VE LOOKED AT THAT COMPARISON WITH MOST OF THE ONES, EVEN WHEN I GAVE YOU ALL THAT INFORMATION ON THE SLIDE THAT THEIR COMPARISON FLOWS, ANYTIME, PRETTY MUCH YOU LIVE IN MUNICIPAL AND COUNTY SPICE BECAUSE THE SAME CMRS ARE COUNTY RETIREMENT.
AND MOST OF THE BENEFITS ARE ALL THE SAME.
MOST OF THEM ARE SEVEN 14, LIKE US, MOSTLY MOST OF THE PEOPLE PAY.
THEY, THEY FULLY FUND EMPLOYEE INSURANCE.
MOST, MOST OF THESE IT'S PRETTY MUCH STANDARD MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT WORLD.
MOST ALL THE FANS ARE, BUT YEAH, I GET YOU GET YOU IN THE GREAT BIG ONES.
THEY, THEY PAY INTO AN ACCOUNT.
YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT TO, THAT'S PART OF IT THAT YOU DID, IT WAS FOR YOU.
SO IT'S A LITTLE MORE EXPENSIVE IF YOU'VE BEEN THERE A WHILE, THAT ACCOUNT IS GOOD DEAL, YOU KNOW, BUT I DON'T KNOW.
THEY, THEY, YOU PAY YOUR INSURANCE IN MANY BIG CITIES AND OTHER DEPARTMENT, YOU PAY YOUR RENT.
IT'S A REDUCED RATE OVER SAY CORPORATE COSTS, BUT IT IS.
BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF YOU DON'T USE IT, YOU'VE BEEN THERE A WHILE AND YOU KEEP PAYING INTO IT, THEN EVENTUALLY IT HELPS.
I MEAN, IT CHANGES A LITTLE BIT.
AND I, AND I THINK IF Y'ALL ARE TALKING ABOUT THAT AND WE'RE LOOKING AT IT, IT'S NOT AS GOOD AS OURS.
ONCE AGAIN, I WOULD SAY THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, I WILL TELL YOU, AS OF RIGHT NOW, UH, PROBABLY COUNTY LAW ENFORCEMENT IS THE CLOSEST TO EVER BEING IN THIS COUNTY, WORKING TOGETHER AND DOING STUFF.
UH, I'LL TELL YOU, AS OF RIGHT NOW, AS OF TODAY DATE COMPARED TO LAST YEAR, UH, THE CRIME TOTAL CRIME IS DOWN BY 17%.
UH, SO, AND I BELIEVE THAT HONESTLY, BUT SEEN, UH, THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE AND
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THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WORKING TOGETHER AND DOING THAT.SO I WOULD SAY TOO, IF WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT US DOING THIS, OKAY, WE WANT TO PAY SOMEBODY IN AT WHATEVER LEVEL THEY COME IN AT WHATEVER STEP PAY.
I WOULD THINK THEY WOULD WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT TOO.
WELL, EVERYTHING WE'VE DONE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE, THAT'S BEEN, WHAT'S EXPECTED OF US, RIGHT? YEAH, I WOULD THINK SO.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, AND, AND, AND, UM, THE, YOU KNOW, I SUPPORT THE TAKE CAR PROGRAM THAT YOU'VE EMPLOYED, BUT I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A LOT OF VALUE TO AN EMPLOYEE AND I, AND I THINK THAT'S PART OF IT.
AND THAT'S WHEN WE BROUGHT THIS IN FAR AS THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, WHEN WE COME TO YOU AS, AS THE COUNTY LAW ENFORCEMENT AND TALKING ABOUT THAT HE'S, AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHERE WE'RE, THAT'S PART OF INCENTIVE TO COME HERE, BUT THAT'S ALSO AN INCENTIVE TO HELP US RETAIN EMPLOYEES BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S HOW WE RETAIN EMPLOYEES, OUR STAFF, AND PART OF THAT, UH, THE CAR PROGRAM, UH, IF YOU LIVE IN THE COUNTY, THAT'S, THAT'S HOW MY POLICY WORKS.
UH, BECAUSE I'VE GOT SO MANY VEHICLES IN SO MANY EMPLOYEES, THAT'S THE ONLY WAY I CAN TRULY BE FAIR WITH IT.
AND I WILL TELL YOU, IT'S WORKED TO IDENTIFY PEOPLE THAT DON'T DRIVE REAL WELL, SO WE CAN IDENTIFY THEM, AND WHO'S NOT TAKING CARE OF THE CARS, BUT IT HAS HELPED US, UH, I THINK A LITTLE BIT.
AND I THINK WE'LL SEE IT MORE WHEN WE GET THROUGH OUR OWN VEHICLES, UH, THE OLDER CARS, WHEN WE GET BACK MORE INTO THE ALL ENTERPRISE VEHICLES, WE CAN SEE PROBABLY SOME SAVINGS IN THAT, IN THE LONG RUN, BUT WE'VE GOT SOME STABLE ABOUT 14 OLDER CARS THAT WE'RE HAVING TO REPAIR.
AND THAT'S SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE'RE GETTING INTO.
AND I'LL TELL YOU NOW, THE, THE HYBRID CARS THAT WE'VE GOT IS NOW GIVING ME HERE, UH, WHICH WE'RE WORKING WITH ENTERPRISE, RUTLAND'S WORKING WITH ME REAL WELL, FOR SOME REASON, THIS HEAT IS NOT DOING THEM ANY GOOD.
UH, I MADE SURE WE GOT THAT QUOTE IN THERE THAT THE WARRANTY ON THEM GOES TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
I TOLD THEM THEY HAD TO TAKE THE CAR BACK BEFORE WE GOT OUT OF WARRANTY.
AND THEY AGREED THAT, AND WE'VE GOT THAT IN WRITING BECAUSE BATTERIES ARE COSTING US ABOUT 8,000 AND THEN THE CHARGER SYSTEM AND THE TRANSMISSION IS ABOUT 8,000.
SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T GET THAT IMPACT.
SO THAT WAS A BIG THING, BUT SOME REASON IT'S HECK TO GET THEM VEHICLES FIXED.
AND WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH THEM GOING FORWARD AND TRYING TO FIND A PLACE TO MOVE THAT ALONG, BECAUSE I'VE GOT SOME CARS IT'S SITTING IN SOME PLACES ALMOST A MONTH TRYING TO GET THEM WELL, I CAN TELL YOU THIS, SOME OF THE LOCAL CAR DEALERSHIPS ARE TAKING APPOINTMENTS FOR REPAIRS SEVEN TO 10 DAYS OUT.
AND I'VE NEVER HEARD OF THAT BEFORE.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH ENTERPRISE AND FIND SOMEBODY AROUND HERE OR WORK WITH US TO TRY TO MOVE THAT PROCESS ALONG.
SO, UH, WELL, BACK TO THE, SO BACK OF THE TAKE-HOME THING, I THINK IF, IF NOTHING ELSE, UH, IT WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD EXERCISE FOR SOMEBODY THAT LIVES 20 MILES AWAY FROM THEIR DUTY STATION FOR THEM TO CALCULATE.
THE VALUE IS REALLY ABOUT IF YOU'LL AVERAGE IT WITH OUR DAYS ON AND DAYS OFF, WE FIGURED IT UP.
IT'S ABOUT 12 TO $15,000 A YEAR.
AND I, AND AGAIN, I AGREE WITH YOU.
I MEAN, I THINK THERE'S SOME REAL SIDE BENEFIT.
THERE SHOULD BE SOME REAL SIDE BENEFITS THEY HAVE, BECAUSE YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, IS, UH, YOU KNOW, GOT A LOT OF REPAIRS ON HIS VEHICLE, YOU KNOW, AND MAYBE, WELL, WHEN YOU GOT TWO TO THREE PEOPLE DRIVING A CAR, YOU'LL NEVER IDENTIFY WHO'S DOING THAT.
AND THE OTHER THING THAT WE'VE GOT WHEN YOU GOT PEOPLE WILL TAKE HOME CARS, THERE'S NO WAY WE CAN IDENTIFY THIS, BUT YOU CAN'T TELL ME HOW MUCH CRIME WE STOP.
WHEN VEHICLES ARE DRIVING TO PLACES, YOU DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE WORKING, GOING HOME, COMING HOME.
SO IT'S A DETERRENT AND THERE WAS NO WAY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT DETERS WELL, AND IT WASN'T STEADY ON, MAN.
I KNOW THAT BECAUSE DALLAS, YOU KNOW, MY BOY, THEY SHOWED US MORE THAN THAT ON ALL THE TAKE-HOME CARS THEY DID IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THEY LIVED IN, THE CRIME WENT DOWN.
WELL, I MEAN, LIKE THOSE NOW, SHE PROBABLY WOULD READ IT BURGLARIZE ONE.
THAT'S NOT NEXT DOOR TO THE POLICE, ALL THESE CARS.
AND SO IF, IF, IF THAT HELPS, MAYBE THAT'S PART OF THE 17% DOWN TO, YOU KNOW, HAVING MORE SQUAD CARS SITTING OUT IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
NO, I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A PLUS FOR ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT THE JAIL.
WE'LL GO TO THE FIVE 60, UH, FIELD KIND OF LOOK UP THERE.
I DID QUITE A BIT OF CHANGING ON IT.
I THINK IN AN ORIGINAL BUDGET, THERE WAS ZENEDGE, UH, WITHOUT SALARIES, WE WENT UP 124,000 1134.
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SO AFTER STARTING WORKING AND STUFF, AND THEN, LIKE I SAY, ADD IN THESE PAST TRENDS AND HERE WHERE YOU CAN LOOK AT IT.IF YOU'RE A MEMBER THAT I WOULDN'T HAVE CAUGHT THIS, IF WE HADN'T HAD THE TRANS YOU REMEMBER EQUIPMENT, WHEN I COME TO YOU LAST YEAR, TALKING ABOUT A RIDE, WE NEEDED SOME RIDE STUFF, SHIELDS, STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND GAS MASKS WHEN WE BOUGHT ALL THAT, WELL, IF IT HADN'T BEEN ME GOING BACK, I WOULDN'T HAVE CAUGHT THAT.
SO I MOVED THAT MONEY OUT TO BRING IT BACK TO WHERE IT'S AT THE SAME THING AND THE NON-CAPITAL STUFF AND THE RICE STUFF.
SO YOU'LL SEE, THAT'S PRETTY GOOD CHANGE OF MONEY RIGHT THERE THAT WE'VE TURNED BACK.
UH, YOU CAN PRETTY WELL SEE EVERYTHING WE'VE DONE.
SO WHAT HAPPENED IS AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'VE DROPPED THAT BUDGET 3.5% BELOW WHAT IT WAS LAST YEAR.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE GIVING BACK OVER 50,000 IN OPERATING FUN.
AND THEN UP THERE, WE, UH, IF YOU NOTICE IN YOUR OLD ONES, YOU'LL NOTICE, IT SAYS, ADD SIX DEPUTIES AND TO CID, UH, AFTER MEETING WITH, UH, CID SERGEANT AND THE CAPTAIN, WE MADE THAT ARRANGEMENT.
WE THINK OUR BEST BET IS AT THIS POINT TO GIVE THEM EMPLOYEES UP, UH, WHICH AT THAT GIVEN YOU TO NOT PUTTING THEM IN THE BUDGET IS 197,000 6 72 IS WHAT THAT WOULD HAVE COST US.
SO WE'RE GIVEN, UH, THAT BACK AND JUST KIND OF ADD THAT TO YOU OR WHAT WE'RE DOING IS NOT TRYING TO SUPPLY THEM.
PLUS THE CONSTABLES BEING, UH, INVOLVED IN THERE AS AN ADMIN AND ALL THAT.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT COUNTY LAW ENFORCEMENT, GIVING THEM BACK 400 AND THOUSAND 174 THAT WE DIDN'T, UH, ADD ONTO THE BUDGET THIS YEAR BY ADDING PERSONNEL REDUCTION FROM THE ORIGINAL ORIGINAL BUDGET.
THAT IS CORRECT FROM OUR ORIGINAL CHRIST'S.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY GOOD.
I THINK THE OTHER THING THAT WE CHANGED TO HERE, AND THIS IS UP TO Y'ALL, THIS IS Y'ALL'S DECISION ON, ON WHAT Y'ALL DOING WITH ENVIRONMENTAL, OUR, UH, THE ANIMAL STUFF.
UH, IF YOU DO THAT, THEN THE SIX DEPUTIES WERE ASKED FOR THERE'S NO NEED, WE'D ONLY NEED TWO.
CAUSE THEN FOUR WOULD COME BACK TO ME.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'D BE ANOTHER THREE HUNDRED AND FIVE, FOUR HUNDRED FIVE TAKEN FROM THAT, BUT STILL THERE'S GOING TO BE OTHER COSTS ON THE OTHER HAND, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT COST TO BE, CAUSE THEY'RE NOT LAW ENFORCEMENT.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S PROBABLY A HUNDRED THOUSAND SAVINGS OR SOMEWHERE IN THERE.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT NUMBER WOULD BE, BUT THAT, THAT WOULD BE TAKEN OUT OF THAT IF WE GO THAT WAY.
SO WHATEVER PLAN OR EITHER GO CIVILIAN THAT'S THAT'S Y'ALL'S CHOICE ON HOW WE WANT TO HANDLE THAT.
UH, AND I THINK THE BIG THING IS, UH, SINCE I'VE BEEN IN THE MEETINGS AND TALKING, UNLESS Y'ALL, HAVEN'T QUESTIONED ABOUT FIVE 60 BUDGET.
UH, THE SERGEANT MOVING OUR SERGEANT TO LIEUTENANT, THAT WAS, UH, HOW MUCH WAS THAT COST? YEAH.
IT WASN'T, IT'S NOTHING, BUT HE'S THE ONLY ONE IN MY DIVISION THAT IS OVERSEEING A DIVISION AND IT'S NOT A LIEUTENANT.
SO, AND WITH HIM MOVING OUT THERE AND WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO SHOVEL SOME PEOPLE OVER THERE, HE, HE NEEDS THAT.
UH, I THINK IT'S THE FAIR AND RIGHT THING TO DO FOR HIM.
UH, BUT THE ONE THING WE, I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AND DONE, AND, AND ME JUST LOOKING AT, I KNOW LAST YEAR, WHEN YOU JUST LOOKING AT YOUR TAX LEVY, I KNOW YOU TALKED ABOUT 44 MILLION, 1 45, AND THEN LOOKING AT YOUR NUMBERS TODAY, WHICH IS WHAT THE TAX LEVEL WITH THE SAME TAX RATE IS 57 MILLION, 981.
UH, I KNOW THAT'S ABOUT WHAT IS IT ABOUT $15 MILLION TOWARDS THAT? IF WE LEAVE LATE, LEAVE IT THE SAME, THE OTHER ASPECT OF THAT.
AND WHEN SHE TALKED ABOUT $3 MILLION AND I THINK SOME MORE THAT WOULD BRING ABOUT 18 MILLION TOWARDS THE GENERAL FUND.
IF WE LEFT EVERYTHING THE SAME, ONE THING I WILL TELL YOU, AND YOU'VE ASKED THIS, NOW SEND IT TO THE, UH, THE VALUES OF THE HOME WITH $300,000 HOME.
AND I PRESENTED IT TO Y'ALL AND THAT DEAL, AND A FEW COMMISSIONERS HAD BEEN WITH ME AT CRIME WATCHINGS TALKING ABOUT THIS.
AND SOME OF THESE PEOPLE ARE RETIRED, UH, FIXED INCOMES IF WE DID OUR TAX RIGHT AND LEFT IT THE SAME AS WE DID LAST YEAR.
AND I'LL RUN IN ON THAT NUMBER, IT WOULD HAVE SAVED A 106,000 OR $106 AND 65 CENTS FOR THAT WHOLE YEAR FOR A $300,000 HOME BECAUSE THEIR TAXES JUST ON THE GENERAL FUND WOULD HAVE BEEN 1,030 9 85.
AND IF YOU'D LEFT THE SAME 20, OR WHEN Y'ALL REDUCED, IT WAS NINE HUNDRED AND THIRTY THREE TWENTY.
WELL, I TALKED TO EVERYBODY AT THESE CRIME, WATCHING EVERYBODY I'VE TALKED TO, THEY CAN PROBABLY TELL YOU, THEY SAID THEY WOULD RATHER HAVE GOOD LAW ENFORCEMENT AND LEAVE THE TAX RATE THE WAY IT IS.
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AND GIVE THEM THE SERVICES THEY NEED.UH, WELL, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE PROJECTING THOUGH.
SHERIFF IS THAT IS A 40% INCREASE IN TAX REVENUE FOR THE COUNTY.
I'VE NEVER EVEN HEARD OF ANY ORGANIZATION INCREASING A, PARTICULARLY A GOVERNMENT INCREASE IN THEIR TAXES ON SOMEBODY, BUT 40%.
AND YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT THE HOMEOWNERS, BUT YOU TAKE A GUY, THAT'S GOT A, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT, I DON'T KNOW, HE PROBABLY HAVE 50 BUSINESSES IN THE COUNTY THAT ARE WELL, AN EXCESSIVE THREE OR $4 MILLION OF VALUE.
THAT'S A BIG BITE ON THOSE GUYS.
YOU KNOW, IT'S A LOT OF MONEY FOR THEM TOO.
SO ANYWAY, THAT'S A DECISION THAT WE'LL JUST HAVE TO STRUGGLE WITH AND YEAH, YEAH, NOT THAT I THINK THAT'S IT.
BUT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK, AS WE'VE ALWAYS SAID IS, UH, THE COUNTY IS ONLY AS GOOD AS ANY EMPLOYEES.
WE'VE GOT TO TAKE CARE OF HIS EMPLOYEES.
AND THE ONE THING THAT WE REALLY NEED IN LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE COUNTY IS TRYING TO FIND THAT GOOD MEDIUM TO GET THAT PLUS FIXING OUR STEP RIGHT.
TO WHERE WE CAN SOMEWHAT COMPETE.
I KNOW THE CAR DEALS AS PART OF IT.
I THINK THE CAR IS INCENTIVE TO COME TO WORK FOR US, BUT WE'VE GOT TO GET SOMEWHAT CLOSE.
CAUSE IT'S REALLY SAD WHEN WE'RE PAYING A RECRUIT MORE THAN I'M PAYING A DEPUTY TO GO GET A LICENSE.
IT'S, IT'S A SAD DAY IN THE CAR THING.
UM, THAT'S JUST KIND OF SOMETHING LIKE A PERSON THAT'S WORKING IN A BUSINESS THAT YOUR GUYS THAT WORK ON ROAD ROAD AND BRIDGE CREWS.
THEY, YOU KNOW, BACON, PROBABLY ALL OF THEM COULD GO TO A PRIVATE CONTRACTOR AT A HIGHER WAGE RATE, BUT, AND I'VE LOST A LOT OF EMPLOYEES OVER THE YEARS THAT THAT HAD BENEFITS WITH US THAT LEFT BECAUSE PARTICULARLY THE YOUNGER GUYS SOMETIMES DON'T NECESSARILY THINK ABOUT, THEY DON'T ADD UP ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THE TAKE-HOME CAR.
LIKE WHAT DOES THAT REALLY WORTH TO ME? THEY DON'T CALCULATE THAT.
THEY JUST SAY, MAN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ANOTHER A HUNDRED BOOKS A WEEK THAT I'M GOING TO GET MY PAYCHECK.
REMIND THEM OF NOT JUST THE CAR TAKE-HOME CARS, BUT ALL THE BENEFITS.
I THINK PEOPLE PARTICULARLY YOUNG PEOPLE SOMETIMES FORGET ABOUT THAT.
AND I, AND THAT'S THE BIG PROBLEM IS THIS YOUNGER GENERATION REALLY DON'T CARE ABOUT BENEFITS.
THEY GET IN THEIR POCKET AND THE TIME THEY GET TO SPEND WITH THEIR FAMILY OR DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WELL, OH, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU SHARED, BUT I CAN TELL YOU WHEN I WAS 30, I DIDN'T REALLY NEED HEALTH INSURANCE.
AND I ALWAYS ENJOYED IT BECAUSE IT'S BETWEEN RODEO ON EVERYTHING ELSE.
I HAD PLENTY OF INJURIES, SO I NEEDED, I NEEDED INSURANCE, BUT THE, IF YOU'LL REMEMBER THE ONE THING THAT I WILL SAY THAT WHEN WE PRESENTED YOU AS THE COUNTY LAW ENFORCEMENT, THAT THE, WITH THE 5,000 AND CHANGING THE STEP PANEL, AND THIS IS FROM THE ALTERS, IT WOULD BE 2 MILLION, SEVEN HUNDRED AND THIRTY EIGHT HUNDRED NINETY SEVEN.
SO IT'S A BIG NUMBER, BUT ALSO THERE'S A, THERE'S BIG NUMBERS HERE.
AND I, AND I THINK ALL EMPLOYEES IN THE COUNTY, WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT THEM AND DO THAT AND UNDERSTAND THE TAXPAYERS.
BUT I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT SERVICES AND AT THE END OF THE DAY SERVICES ARE GOING UP, PEOPLE DEMAND SERVICES AND WE'VE GOT TO PROVIDE THEM WITH THAT SERVICES.
I THINK THERE ARE THINGS JUST LIKE THAT.
YOU CAN'T CONTROL THAT THE COUNTY GOVERNOR CAN'T CONTROL, UH, WHEN TAX, WHEN PROPERTY APPRAISALS HAVE GONE UP IN A YEAR, 200%.
IT'S I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S A REALITY AS WELL, TOO.
SO I'VE, I'VE, I'VE PAID THEM.
IT HURTS US AS WE'VE ALL PAID UP TO EVERYBODY.
AND IT'S JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, CLEARLY IN A PERFECT WORLD, WE WOULD GIVE GREAT RAISES AND HAVE THE MOST COMPETITIVE SALARIES.
UH, BUT I THINK WE DO HAVE TO BE, BE CAUTIOUS THAT WE'RE COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES.
I THINK WE DO THAT PRETTY GOOD WHEN I PRESENT STUFF, BUT THE, WE ARE ASKING EVERY CITIZEN, EVERY TAXING ENTITY, CAUSE WE'RE NOT THE ONLY ONE, EVERY TAXING ENTITY IS ASKING EVERY CITIZEN IN THIS COUNTY TO TIGHTEN ITS BELT.
AND I THINK WE, I JUST THINK IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO DO THE SAME THING.
AND I, I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORT TO DO THAT.
AND I THINK THEY'RE, THEY'RE BIG ON MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN PROVIDE THEM WELL SERVICES.
AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE SAFETY OF THE COUNTY IS MY NUMBER ONE CONCERN, BUT I'M GONNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THAT.
AND I'M GOING TO PRESENT TO YOU WHAT THE PEOPLE NEED IN THE COUNTY TO PROVIDE THAT.
AND IT'S UP TO Y'ALL TO Y'ALL DECIDE TO FUND IT OR NOT.
SO AGAIN, I'LL GO BACK TO MY MOTION THAT WE APPOINT WOODALL TO BE THE DICTATOR.
LET HIM JUST DECIDE BECAUSE HE'S PRETTY GOOD.
LET'S TALK ABOUT RACISM, BRINGING HIM UP.
WELL, I JUST WANT TO COMMAND ALL Y'ALL I APPRECIATE Y'ALL SO MUCH ALWAYS STEP UP.
UM, SO WE HAVE ANOTHER CELEBRITY IN OUR MIDST, ASIDE FROM THE SHERIFF, UH, WE HAVE JUDGE RIDGE, UH, WHO RUNS, I WILL TELL YOU THAT JUDGE RICH RUNS THE
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NOISIEST DEPARTMENT IN THE COUNTY.THEY ACTUALLY KIND OF HAVE TONED IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
I THINK THAT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE.
IS IT QUIETER NOW YOU'LL MADE A PASSAGE OUT THAT YOU SENT TO ME, SO THAT'D BE GREAT.
AND I DIDN'T BRING MY COPY WITH ME, LIKE DO WHAT I KNOW IN MY HEART.
THIS IS A FOLLOW-UP TO WHAT THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY ACTUALLY TOUCHED ON THIS SUBJECT YESTERDAY.
AND SO WE, UH, WE, WE HEARD A LITTLE BIT OF IT AND I'M SORRY.
IT'S GOOD TO SEE ALL OF YOU TODAY.
UM, WELL, MENTAL HEALTH, UH, I KNOW, WE KNOW IT'S A PROBLEM.
IT'S A PROBLEM HERE IN OUR COUNTY AND THE STATE AND ACROSS THE UNITED STATES.
AND, UM, I THINK THE SERVICES ARE LACKING THAT WE'RE PROVIDING WITH THEM.
I DON'T THINK IT'S ANYBODY'S FAULT.
I THINK IT'S JUST KINDA THE, UM, THE MANNER OF THE BEAST, IF YOU WILL.
IT'S JUST, JUST KIND OF THE WAY IT WORKS, BUT I THINK WE COULD MAKE IT BETTER.
AND I THINK WE COULD MAKE IT BETTER WITH A MENTAL HEALTH COORDINATOR IF WE HAD THAT PHYSICIAN, UH, I KNOW WE HAD KNIPPA, BUT THEY OBVIOUSLY ARE THE UMBRELLA TO SECURE THE CARE, UM, FROM EITHER IPS OR LAKES REGIONAL, ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS I SEE, NOT ONLY AS A CITIZEN, BUT AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL IS THAT JUST HAVE FAMILIES COMING IN, NOT TALKING EVEN ABOUT LAW ENFORCEMENT, THAT THAT PARTICULAR AREA AND WHAT THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH, BUT JUST FAMILIES COMING INTO OUR OFFICE AND NOT KNOWING WHERE TO GO OR TO WHO TO ACCESS, TO GET MENTAL HEALTH.
UH, THEY COME TO MARGARET NOW, IT KIND OF BY DEFAULT AND SHE'S MY PROBATE GUARDIAN SHIP OFFICER.
AND, UM, IT IT'S TURNED INTO NOW THAT SHE'S A MENTAL HEALTH OFFICER AND SHE JUST DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO DEAL WITH HIM.
THERE WERE LITERALLY PEOPLE COMING INTO HER, HER OFFICE ALMOST DAILY SEEKING ADVICE.
AND SHE SAID, SIR, WITH THEM FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS, TRYING TO CANCEL WITH HIM AND DO THINGS.
BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, I THINK THIS PERSON WOULD BE GREAT.
WE NEED SOME COMMUNICATION FOR COMMUNICATION THAT COMES INTO THE COUNTY AND COMMUNICATION THAT GOES OUT AND WE DON'T HAVE ONE LINE OF COMMUNICATION FOR THAT.
AND I THINK THAT'S A BIG PROBLEM.
UM, I THINK WE NEED THAT THIS PERSON, UH, I ENVISIONED WOULD BE A LIAISON FOR THE COURTS FOR THE DA'S OFFICE, UM, FOR, UH, OTHER DEPARTMENTS OF THE EXTERNAL COMMUNICATION WITH FAMILIES THAT COME IN AND NEED HELP.
SO THEY COULD ACCESS, UM, DIFFERENT AGENCIES, THE CARE PROVIDERS, APS, CPS, UM, OUR PROTECTIVE ORDERS HAVE GONE UP TREMENDOUSLY.
I THINK, UH, I HAVE A COPY OF THAT.
UM, IN 2019, UM, THERE WERE 272 PROTECTIVE ORDERS THAT WERE FILED THAT'S TO GET THESE CASES INTO THE MENTAL HEALTH COURT WHERE JUDGE JACKSON WOULD HEAR THEM.
UM, AS OF LAST YEAR THAT JUMPED TO 492.
AND SO THE INCREASE IN, AND PART OF THAT MAY HAVE BEEN COVID I DON'T KNOW, UM, BEING, UH, IN THE HOUSE FOR SO LONG OR BEING TIED UP, IT, IT CAUSES PEOPLE TO, TO NOT DO WELL IF I COULD SAY IT THAT WAY.
AND SO THAT MAY BE PART OF THE INCREASE, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY QUESTION THAT THE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE IS INCREASING OUR COUNTY AND WE NEED SOME HELP WITH THAT.
AND I JUST THINK ONE INDIVIDUAL THAT COULD DEAL WITH THIS AND DISSEMINATE THE INFORMATION OUT, UH, TO THE AGENCIES OR THE DEPARTMENTS OR WHOEVER'S AFFECTED WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.
AND NOT ONLY THAT, I ENVISIONED THIS PERSON, UM, BEING PART OF AN EDUCATIONAL PROCESS TO EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY, UH, THE CONSTITUENTS THAT WE HAVE, UH, IN MENTAL HEALTH, UH, LITERALLY THEY DO NOT KNOW WHERE TO GO.
UM, I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT NIT, BUT UNTIL I WAS ELECTED, I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT ANY OF THAT STUFF.
AND, UH, EVEN TODAY FOR ME TO ACCESS SOME MENTAL HEALTH HELP, IF I NEEDED IT OR A FAMILY MEMBER NEEDED IT, I'D HAVE TO PICK UP THE PHONE AND PROBABLY MAKE SEVERAL PHONE CALLS.
THIS PERSON I ENVISION ENVISION WOULD, UH, TAKE THAT ROLE AND, AND FOLLOW UP AND DO ALL OF THAT.
AND I DON'T MEAN THAT THIS INDIVIDUAL IS GOING TO BE PART OF, UH,
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UM, THE CARE OF THE PERSON THAT PERSON'S NOT DOING.THAT IT'S JUST, IT'S MORE OF A COMMUNICATION COORDINATION EFFORT, UM, TO HELP OUT.
THE, THE OTHER THING THAT, UM, RECENTLY WE HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT, UH, WE'VE HAD SOME SCHOOL COUNSELORS IN OUR COUNTY ACTUALLY CALL US BECAUSE HAVE HAD CHILDREN THAT NEEDED SOME HELP.
AND IT'S INTERESTING HOW THAT PLAYS OUT BECAUSE, UM, IN ONE PARTICULAR CASE, ONE OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, UM, UM, PREFER NOT TO NAME IT, IF THAT'S OKAY, BUT THE COUNSELOR CALLED ME AND WANTED HELP.
AND THEN THE COUNSELOR GOT IN TROUBLE FOR SEEKING THAT HELP BECAUSE THE ADMINISTRATION DIDN'T WANT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO LOOK BAD.
AND SO THERE'S SOME PROBLEM ISSUES THERE.
AND WITH THE EVOLVE, THE SHOOTINGS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, I THINK ARE HYPER SENSITIVE, OBVIOUSLY RIGHT NOW THEY ARE.
AND I MEAN, ADMINISTRATORS WANT THEIR SCHOOLS TO LOOK GOOD AND THEY WANT THEM TO HAVE A GOOD IMAGE.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH STUFF LIKE THAT, THOSE KIDS, SOME OF THEM NEED HELP.
AND I COULD ENVISION, UM, THIS PERSON PLAYING A ROLE IN THAT AND HELPING THEM GET THROUGH THE PROCESS OF FINDING THE RIGHT AGENCY OR PEOPLE TO DEAL WITH.
THEY, THE COUNSELORS, THE ONE I TALKED TO, THEY SAY THEY DON'T GET A LOT OF EDUCATION AND TRAINING IN THAT AREA.
AND SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD MAYBE WORK WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
THAT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST KIND OF AN EXTRA THING THAT I THOUGHT ABOUT BEFORE COMING IN.
UM, BUT, BUT REALLY, I, I, I, AND I, AND I KNOW JUDGE, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN FUSSING ABOUT THIS FOR A LONG TIME.
I REALLY THINK THE BIG ISSUE HERE IS WE DON'T HAVE ONE LINE OF COMMUNICATION COMING IN AND GOING OUT, UH, THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW IS JUST ALL OVER THE PLACE.
AND LET ME KIND OF ADD TO THAT BECAUSE YOU WERE IN THIS MEETING, I THINK, I THINK YOU WERE IN THERE AND THIS HAS BEEN SEVERAL YEARS, TOOK PROBABLY AT LEAST TWO YEARS AGO.
I THINK EVERYBODY HERE PROBABLY KNOWS CODY CRAIG, WHO IS THE, UH, UH, HE WORKS AT THE DISTRICT FOR KEITH BELL AND CODY HAPPENS TO BE, UH, BECAUSE HE'S DEALT PERSONALLY WITH A LOT OF, THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF FOSTER CARE WITH KIDS AND THEY, HE, SO HE'S SOMEWHAT OF A MENTAL HEALTH EXPERT AND HE WAS IN THIS ROOM WITH US THAT DAY.
AND, UM, WE WERE, I THINK THOSE OF THE COUNTY SIDE WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT OUR SERVICE PROVIDERS AND YOU KNOW, HOW MESSED UP THEY WERE.
AND, AND CODY SORTA GOT THIS FUNNY SMILE ON HIS FACE AND SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, THE PROBLEM IS NOT ALL WITH THEM.
HE SAID, SOME, A BIG PART OF THIS PROBLEM IS WITH THE COUNTY.
AND HIS POINT WAS TO, TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY, I MEAN, WE HAD, YOU KNOW, PICK A NUMBER SIX, EIGHT PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY THAT WERE CONSTANTLY INSERTING THEMSELVES INTO THE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES AND MENTAL, YOU KNOW, WHEN A MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEM WOULD COME UP, THEY'RE CALLING THE PROVIDERS AND THERE WAS SO MUCH CROSSTALK GOING ON.
AND, UM, I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE BETTER NOW THAN IT USED TO BE, BUT WE STILL DON'T HAVE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WE, WE STILL DON'T HAVE FOR KNIPPA FOR IPS, THE S THE PEOPLE THAT PROVIDE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, WE STILL DON'T HAVE ONE PERSON THAT A LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSON OR A JUDGE OR JUDGE'S STAFF SAYS, THIS IS WHAT I THINK WE NEED.
WHO DO I CALL TO FIND OUT HOW TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN? AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE REALLY PROPOSING.
WE HAVE ONE PERSON THAT WILL KNOW HOW TO CONNECT THOSE DOTS.
AND I'VE JUST REALLY BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE EXTERNAL COMMUNICATION DEALING WITH THE COMMUNITY, THE FAMILY, THE SHERIFF'S SCONE.
UM, BUT THEY HAVE THE APLS, THOSE ARE WHITE WARRANTS.
I KNOW SOME OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT IS.
THEY GO OUT TO LOCATIONS, THEY PICK THESE FOLKS UP, THEY TAKE THEM TO TERRELL STATE HOSPITAL, PART OF THE PROBLEM.
IT'S A BLESSING THAT WE HAVE A STATE HOSPITAL, OUR COUNTY, BUT IT'S ALSO A LITTLE BIT, UM, OF A PROBLEM BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE OTHER COUNTIES THAT WE CONTRACT WITH THAT BRING IN FOLKS FOR, FOR MENTAL HEALTH HEARINGS.
AND, UH, SO WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THOSE ALSO.
AND IT'S LOOK, I'M NOT HERE TO SAY OUR, COUNTY'S NOT DOING A DECENT JOB AT WHAT WE'RE DOING, BECAUSE I THINK WE ARE, BUT I THINK WE COULD DO A LOT BETTER IF THIS PERSON WAS IN PLACE.
AND, UM, I THINK WE COULD ACTUALLY TAKE THE LEAD AS A COUNTY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
UM, I JUST, I JUST THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT POSITION.
AND, UH, I DON'T THINK I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES ARE ON THE INCREASE.
I THINK WE KNOW THAT, UM, THE PROBLEM THAT WE TALKED ABOUT YESTERDAY TOO, IS THE FACT THAT THE, SO MUCH OF THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH METAL, JUST THE DOLLAR COST, NOT THE, NOT THE, THE, THE CRUELTY AND THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE TERRIBLE THINGS THAT HAVE TO GO
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ON, UH, JUST THE DOLLAR COST IS NOT CAPTURED ANYWHERE.WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY IT'S COSTING THE COUNTY TO NOT HAVE A REALLY GOOD EFFECTIVE.
AND, AND, AND MAYBE THIS INDIVIDUAL COULD DO SOME OF THAT TO KIND OF CAPTURE THAT.
I'M NOT AN ACCOUNTANT AND I'M NOT GOOD AT MATH, BUT I THINK THAT'S A POSSIBILITY THAT THAT COULD HAPPEN.
UM, THERE, IT, IT, IT PROBABLY IS A LITTLE UNFAIR IF I KEEP GOING TO TELL YOU SOME OF THE THINGS I ENVISIONED THAT THIS PERSON WOULD DO, BECAUSE IT MAY BE OVERLOAD QUITE FRANKLY.
UH, I DON'T KNOW IF ONE PERSON CAN HANDLE IT.
I COULD EVEN FORESEE IN THE FUTURE THAT THE MENTAL HEALTH WOULD BECOME MAYBE, MAYBE EVEN NOW A MENTAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT, EVEN THERE WAS ONLY ONE PERSON WITH ITS OWN BUDGET AND SO FORTH BECAUSE THIS PERSON IS GOING TO HAVE TO GET CONTINUALLY GET EDUCATION, JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.
UM, AND SO WHAT'S THE, UM, I MEAN, W WHAT ALL DOES LIEUTENANT WEST DO AS THE MENTAL HEALTH COORDINATOR FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT? HE, UM, HE TAKES CARE OF THE WHITE WARRANTS AND WATCHES AND TAKES CARE OF THE FOLKS IN THE JAIL IF THEY'RE, UH, DECLINING.
AND, UH, NOW WHEN I SAY THE WHITE WARRANTS, LET ME BACK UP.
IT'S A WARRANT JUST TO PICK SOMEBODY UP.
HE DOES, WHAT'S CALLED A PALS ARREST WITHOUT A WARRANT.
AND I KNOW, YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS.
UM, BUT THEY, THEY WILL GET CALLS OUT ON DIFFERENT LOCATIONS THAT SOMEBODY'S NEEDING HELP AND, AND THEY'LL PICK THEM UP AND TAKE THEM TO TERRELL STATE HOSPITAL.
I GET REGULAR PHONE, TEXT MESSAGES FROM HIM EVERY WEEK OF THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT'S PICKED UP, UM, AND TAKEN TO TERRELL STATE HOSPITAL.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE HE'S AT.
UH, I'M NOT, THIS WOULD NOT BE AN OVERLAP INTO, INTO THE JAIL OR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, UNLESS THEY NEEDED THIS PERSON TO HELP THEM OUT.
THEY CERTAINLY WOULDN'T BE WILLING TO DO THAT.
AND IN FACT, IF, IF YOU GRANTED ME THE POSITION, AND I SAY, ME, I ENVISIONED THIS POSITION WOULD BE USED BY EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY.
AND I DON'T CARE IF THEY WORK UNDER MY SUPERVISION OR THEY CAN, BUT I JUST THINK, UM, IT'S, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT MY POSITION.
AND, UM, UM, ANYBODY CAN SUPERVISE THEM.
WOULD YOU JUST EXPAND A LITTLE, A BIT, UH, ON YOUR COMMENT ABOUT HOW WE CONTRACT WITH OTHER COUNTIES FOR, WELL, WHEN I CAME IN, I FOUND THAT OUT, WHEN YOU GO THROUGH YOU, YOU DO THESE FILES ON MENTAL HEALTH, UH, HEARINGS, AND YOU GET LOOKING THROUGH THEM AND THEY'RE FROM, UM, WOOD COUNTY OR UPSHUR COUNTY, OR SOME PLACES LIKE THAT.
AND THEY DON'T HAVE A STATE HOSPITAL.
AND A LOT OF THE TIMES THEY, THEY ARE TRANSPORTED TO TERRELL STATE HOSPITAL.
AND THEN WE DO THE HEARINGS FOR THEM INSTEAD OF THEM COMING OUT TO TERRELL STATE OR TRANSPORTING THAT PATIENT ALL THE WAY TO THAT COUNTY.
WE BUILD THEM FOR THAT, AND THEY PAY US FOR THAT.
SO WE FIGURED OUT FOR HIM A PRICE RANGE.
I SUGGESTED WE DO LIKE JUDGE BLAIR HAD ASKED FOR THE FREE TRIAL SUPERVISOR ON SUPER VISION PERSON AND HE KIND OF OVERSAW IT, BUT WE DID NOT PUT HIM IN JUDGE BLAIR'S BUDGET.
WE PUT HIM IN A DEPARTMENT SO WE CAN CAPTURE ALL THOSE COSTS.
AND I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT SUGGESTION.
I MEAN, YES, IT'S JUST ANOTHER PAGE IN OUR BUDGET, BUT I THINK IT'S AN EXCELLENT YEP.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TO THINK AND HE MADE THE COMMENT, SORRY, IF I'M OVER HERE, I'M JUST TRYING TO HELP.
BUT DID YOU CAPTURE THE FULL COST OF WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST BECAUSE THAT PERSON'S GOING TO NEED, LIKE YOU SAID, CONTINUING PATIENTS, THEY'RE GOING TO NEED OFFICE SUPPLIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND IT'S EASIER IF WE PUT THEM IN A SEPARATE DEPARTMENT THAN HAVING TO GIVE THEM DIFFERENT NUMBERS, TO TRY TO CAPTURE THAT, WHICH IS RUNNING A DEPARTMENT REPORT.
CAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE IN PROBABLY IN MANDATED UNFUNDED MANDATE.
YOU KNOW, I ALSO DID ONE MORE THING AND THEN I'M SET UP.
HE SAID IN HIS, HIS WORK TO YOU, UH, 60,000 ARE COMMENSURATE WITH EXPERIENCE AND THIS PERSON HAS TO HAVE A BACHELOR'S IN PSYCHOLOGY AND SOME OTHER EXPERIENCE NEEDED.
I TOLD HIM TO PRESENT IT TO THE COURT 60 TO 80.
SO IF HE GOT SOMEBODY THAT ALREADY HAD SOME OF THESE CREDENTIALS, HE CAN OFFER JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE TO MAKE IT ENTICING BECAUSE ARE SOMEBODY AT 60 AND I GET A LITTLE BIT OF EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE AND THEY NETWORK WITH ALL THESE DIVISIONS AND GET ALL THESE PLACES THAT CAN HELP,
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THEN THEY MIGHT GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.IT WAS JUST SOMETHING I BOUGHT.
WHAT DO YOU THINK? 60,000 WHEN TO GET THE PERSON WE NEED? I DON'T KNOW.
LET ME, CAN I TELL YOU A QUICK STORY? OKAY.
AND I THINK JUDGE W I KNOW, YOU KNOW, THIS, UM, IT WAS AN INDIVIDUAL I HAD IN MIND AND SHE IS A POLICE OFFICER IN ROCKWALL.
SHE'S WORKING ON HER PHD AND SOME SORT OF AREA IN PSYCHIATRY.
SHE KNOWS ALL ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH.
SHE'S A SMART LADY, BUT SHE WANTS 90,000.
AND, UM, I NEVER MENTIONED THAT TO, TO THE JUDGE, BUT, UH, I, I SORT OF DID THAT ON PURPOSE.
I AVERAGE TOP OUT PAY FOR A DEPARTMENT IN THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW.
IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THEIR CREDENTIALS AND EXPERIENCE BECAUSE I KNOW WE PUT IT AT A RANGE.
AND THEN WHEN YOU GET THAT PERSON, Y'ALL INTERVIEW THEM, YOU KNOW, IN HARM AND MAKE OFFER FOR BENEFITS.
I JUST BROUGHT ONE SHEET, BUT YOU ARE WELCOME TO LOOK AT WHAT KAREN, IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THAT, BUT THE AGE RESPONSIBILITY, I MEAN, I KNOW THEY HAVE A DEPARTMENT, THE STATE IS THE PROBLEM.
WELL, KNOCK ON THEM COUNTY IS, BUT I MEAN, THEY HAVE A QUESTION.
SO IF YOU MAKE THIS DEPARTMENT WHO ACTUALLY COMES TO THAT DEPARTMENT WHO ACTUALLY COMES TO IT, I MEAN, I'M SORRY.
WELL, WHO, WHO, WHO DO YOU CONTACT? WHO, WHO THE WHO'S, WHO'S GOING TO CONTACT THIS PERSON CONSTANT.
RIGHT? AND THEN IF WE NEED SOME HELP, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING? NO, I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT, IF YOU PUT THIS PERSON IN THAT PERSON AND SAY, HEY, YEAH.
I'M THE TOP STREET COORDINATOR.
AND SO THEY'RE SITTING IN THE ABSOLUTELY.
THAT'S WHAT THE COURT SYSTEM LOOK.
THE PERSON THAT COMES IN THE COURT IS GOING TO BE IN A, IN A COURT.
IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE NEW JUSTICE CENTER.
I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.
CAUSE I DON'T, I DON'T UNDERSTAND IF IT'S FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT WE NEEDED THEM TO THE COURT SYSTEM OR DO WE NEEDED IT IN A FREESTANDING THING.
LIKE IT MAY BE IN
YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? I'M NOT SURE BECAUSE MAYBE THESE PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO COME TO THE JAIL AND THE JUSTICE.
YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? THIS PERSON I'M JUST ASKING.
AND THIS IS JUST MY VISION OF IT.
BUT THEY WOULD BE AT THE NEW CRIMINAL JUSTICE CENTER AND THEY WOULD DEAL COUNTY-WIDE WITH PEOPLE THAT NEED HELP.
THEY WOULD DEAL WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
IF THEY, IF THEY NEED HELP WITH ANYTHING, WE'LL BE GLAD TO WORK WITH HIM.
UM, THEY'RE GOING TO WORK WITH KNIPPA, BUT OVERSEES THE CARE, WHICH IS THE LAKES REGIONAL.
UM, THEY WOULD MAKE CONTACT WITH THEM AND BE THE CONTACT PERSON TO MAKE SURE.
AND, AND SOME OF THESE FOLKS OUTSIDE ARE FOLLOWING UP AND DOING WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.
THERE'S JUST, THAT'D BE KIND OF LIKE THE VETERAN'S ONLY FOR ANYBODY THAT NEEDS MENTAL HEALTH AND JUDGE IT, YOU KNOW? AND IT SOUNDS LIKE IT MAY.
AND ONE OF THE MANY, MANY CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD WITH MARGARET ABOUT THESE THINGS, THAT KIND OF A CLASSIC SITUATION IS THAT SHE GETS A PHONE CALL OR A VISIT FROM A PARENT OR A SPOUSE OR A FAMILY MEMBER.
UH, MY SON'S GOT A RE MY SON GOT ARRESTED.
OR IT'S NOT A LOT OF TIMES, NOT THE PERSON INVOLVED.
THEY MAY BE IN THE CRIMINAL SYSTEM OR THEY MAY JUST BE ACTING OUT SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER, BUT THEY'RE HEARING FROM FAMILY MEMBERS OR FRIENDS OR SOMETHING.
AND THAT THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'VE DRAWN.
AND AS WE TALK ABOUT THIS, I DON'T WANT YOU TO FORGET THAT SHE'LL BE DOING OTHER THINGS WITH, WITH, WITH THE JUDGES, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, ALL OF THAT AT THIS PARENT OR SPOUSE, THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO.
AND THAT'S WHAT THIS PERSON WOULD BE.
THE JUDGE, THEY HAVE NO CLUE ON 90% OF THEM, THEY HAVE NO CLUE, MAYBE ALL OF THEM.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S KINDA, MY QUESTION IS I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY'RE GOING TO KNOW WHERE THIS IS AND WHO TO CONTACT.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M JUST SAYING AS A GENERAL RULE, YOU KNOW, IF, IF I THINK THAT'S AN WELL, NEVERMIND LET'S USE SOMEBODY ELSE'S I DON'T THINK I WOULD SAY, LET ME CALL, CALL FROM THE COUNTY.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA CALL THEM A DOCTOR'S OFFICE ALMOST.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I'M JUST, I'M JUST ASKING, WHEN ARE WE GOING TO IDENTIFY THIS OFFICE AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET THE EDUCATION OUT TO WHERE PEOPLE WOULD UNDERSTAND? WELL, I THINK IT WOULD BE IF THIS PERSON,
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THIS POSITION WAS FIELD, IT WOULD, UM, IT WOULD BE ON THE WEBSITE.WE WOULD, UH, DO FLYERS AND INFORMATION TO EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM.
I, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE COULDN'T DO CONFERENCES, SMALL CONFERENCES, UH, HERE IN KAUFMAN COUNTY, UM, SCHOOLS, THE SCHOOLS.
THERE'S, THERE'S JUST, I'M JUST ASKING BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IT'S KINDA LIKE THE VETERANS OFFERS THE SAME WAY WHEN, WHEN WE HIRED THE VETERANS OFFICER, THAT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I ASK HIM TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
IT GOES TO ONE KANUKA THEY ALL KNOW THE GUY.
I TOLD ROBERT, I SAID, I WANT YOU TO, WHEN SOMEBODY ASKS WHERE VETERANS OPERATED, I THINK I WAS SAY HE HAS A NAME AND HE'S DONE PRETTY GOOD AT IT, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.
I'M SAYING THAT, UM, SINCE MARGARET'S BEEN HERE, SHE WENT FROM ZERO HELPING FOLKS WITH MENTAL HEALTH, TO SOMETIMES A LINE OUT THE DOOR, JUST BECAUSE OF THE INFORMATION PASSED ON FROM OTHER INDIVIDUALS ABOUT, YOU NEED TO CALL MARGARET, EVEN ELECTED OFFICIALS SAY, WELL, GO DOWN AND TALK TO JUDGE RICH'S OFFICE OR WHATEVER.
AND SHE ENDS UP HAVING A LOT OF PEOPLE.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE ANY ISSUE, GETTING THE WORD OUT.
UM, I'M I'M NOT TRYING NOT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
I'M JUST ASKING YOU BECAUSE I'M KIND OF CURIOUS, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A LOT OF SOURCES TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT EVERYBODY KNEW ABOUT ACCESSIBILITY TO SOMEBODY LIKE THIS, NOT BE ASSOCIATED WITH NO JUSTICE IN JAIL OUT THERE.
IT'D BE GREAT TO HAVE A HOTLINE.
AND IN KAUFMAN COUNTY COURSE, YOU HAVE 9 1 1, BUT UM, THIS PERSON PROBABLY YOU NEED A NEED A THREE ONE, THE ONE THING YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, IF YOU HAVE A MEMBER THAT TRACY WEST ALSO GOES TO THAT SHERIFF COMMUNITY RESOURCES, THERE'S A BUNCH OF PEOPLE THAT WE WORK WITH MENTAL HEALTH AND DONE THAT.
AND THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO GET IT OUT.
I THINK THAT'S TRUE, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S A BIG THING IN THE COUNTY.
THEY MEET EVERY MONTH AND TALK ABOUT THIS STUFF AND LIKE PROVIDE US WITH PAMPHLETS AND STUFF ON RESOURCES TO HELP US WITH PEOPLE WITH MENTAL HEALTH.
AND YOU WOULDN'T HEAR EARLIER, BUT DON'T YOU THINK, UH, MENTAL HEALTH HAS INCREASED OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS IN KAUFMAN COUNTY.
I MEAN, OH, I GUARANTEE YOU, I CAN TRY AND GIVE YOU SOME NUMBERS.
TRACY, I'M TELLING YOU, BECAUSE WHAT HE'S DONE IS EVERYTHING ON THE SIDE, BUT WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH IRIS, WHEN THEY GET BACK TO JAIL, COMMUNICATING THE COURTS, TRYING TO DO THAT.
LIKE LAST MONTH WE DID 21 8 POUNDS.
WELL, WHERE WE'RE DROPPING THE BALL WITH THAT IS NOBODY'S GOING TO GIVE THEM HELP.
SO WE'RE SENDING TRACY NOW WITH TRYING TO GET NIPPLE INVOLVED, TO GO OUT THERE AND FOLLOW UP AND MAKING SURE THEY'RE GETTING THEIR MEDICATIONS BECAUSE THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
THEY QUIT THEIR MEDICATIONS, I QUIT DOING STUFF.
AND THEN THEY START AND THEY SELF-MEDICATE, BUT ALCOHOL OR DRUGS.
SO WE'VE GOT TO TRY TO BREAK THAT CYCLE.
I THINK ALL WE CAN DO IS HELP.
AND I KNOW WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT JUSTICE CENTER BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THE FIRST THING THAT PEOPLE SAY, OH, WELL, I DON'T WANT TO CALL THE SHERIFF AND TELL THEM COMES THEY'RE OFF THEIR MEDICATION.
YOU KNOW? CAUSE THEY'RE AFRAID THAT THEY'RE GOING TO END UP IN JAIL INSTEAD OF SOMEWHERE ELSE.
THAT'S, THAT'S ALL, I'M REALLY NOT.
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE AFRAID OF A BADGE AND A GUN AND I GET IT.
BUT I MEAN, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST WHAT IS HERE.
I MEAN, THIS INDIVIDUAL COULD BE HOUSEWARE OR I DON'T KNOW.
IT WAS JUST, I WAS JUST ASKING HIM, TRYING TO TALK TO YOU AND SAY, MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING YOU OUGHT TO CONSIDER AND THINK ABOUT IT JUST BECAUSE OF WHERE IT IS OR WHAT IT IS, YOU KNOW, IN THE DEPARTMENT AND HOW THAT, HOW ACCESSIBILITY THEY ARE AND WHAT THEY ARE.
AND IF THEY HAVE TO COME THROUGH A LOT OF SECURITY AND POLICE OFFICERS, THEY MIGHT NOT WANT TO DO IT.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, JUDGE WILEY SAID YESTERDAY THAT I WALKED ON TO IS, AND THIS IS JUST KIND OF FOR THE FUTURE.
IF THIS POSITION IS ESTABLISHED, WE NEED TO FIND SOME METRICS.
WE NEED TO FIND S HOOK OURSELVES AS SOME SORT OF STATISTIC TO SEE EITHER FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT OR SOMETHING TO TELL US HOW WELL WE'RE DOING.
AND ARE WE DOING, ARE WE MAKING A DIFFERENCE WITH THIS PROGRAM? YOU KNOW, ARE THE NUMBERS CHANGING SOMEHOW ALSO BY HAVING A CENTRAL POINT, YOU MAYBE COULD HAVE SOMEONE THAT FOCUSED ON CONSTANTLY SEEKING OUT GRANT FUNDING, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL OUTSIDE FUNDING.
AND THIS IS KIND OF AN INSIDER WORLD TOO.
THE MENTAL HEALTH THING IS, UH, I MEAN, THOSE SOMEONE WHO'S, UH, AN INSIDER, SOMEBODY WHO'S A THERAPIST OR A PSYCHOLOGIST OR WHATEVER, THEY'RE MORE LIKELY TO FIND RESOURCES, PARTICULARLY AT THE STATE LEVEL, RIGHT? FOR THE BOOK FUNDING, I MENTAL HEALTH.
I TALKED TO OUR STATE REP AND SENATOR, EVERY TIME I GET A CHANCE TO ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH, I DON'T THINK IT'S WORKING.
SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR GOODRICH?
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NO.IT REALLY BOTHERS ME THAT A SCHOOL ADMINISTRATOR GOT UPSET THAT SOMEBODY WENT TO SOMEBODY FOR HELP LIKE THAT, BECAUSE WOULD IT BE WORSE TO LET THAT GO? AND THEN THAT KID TWIST OFF AND KILLS EVERYBODY IN THE SCHOOL.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT MAKE THEM LOOK A LITTLE WORSE THAN DOING WHAT IT DID.
THAT'S JUST THAT AGGRAVATES ME, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THINK LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, I MEAN, EVERYBODY'S BEEN SAYING FOR YEARS, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, IF SOMETHING I'LL LOOK RIGHT, YOU NEED TO TELL SOMEBODY.
I MEAN, STATISTICALLY, THEY SAY THAT FOR SHOOTING TO HAPPEN IN ONE OF OUR SCHOOLS HERE IN KAUFMAN COUNTY IS PRETTY LOW, BUT STILL, I MEAN, IT COULD HAPPEN IN, IT'S NOT JUST THE SHOOTINGS, IT'S THE KIDS THAT COME IN AND THEY NEED HELP.
IT'S, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT THE FOCUS OF THE SHOOTING SO MUCH.
UM, IT'S JUST, THERE'S JUST A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH FAMILIES.
I WAS TALKING TO, UH, ONE OF OUR LOCAL SUPERINTENDENTS, I WON'T NAME A NAME, BUT THAT PERSON WAS TELLING ME THAT I WOULD NOT BELIEVE THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS THEY HAVE THAT ARE ON PSYCHOTROPIC DRUGS, THAT THIS NURSE HAS TO DISTRIBUTE TO THEM EVERY DAY, JUST TO KEEP THEM IN THE CLASSROOM.
SHE SAID, THAT PERSON SAID IT'S SCARY.
JUST UPDATE ON NUMBER JUST FOR US.
IT'S 369 MENTAL SUBJECT AND COMMITMENTS LAST YEAR.
AND RIGHT NOW YEAR TO DATE, WE'RE AT 197.
CAN I, AM I ALLOWED TO BRING UP OTHER ISSUES OR CONCERNS? MAKE ANOTHER POINT? HE DOESN'T SAY WHAT HE'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT.
WELL I KNOW, AND A COUPLE THINGS, MY, MY CORE COORDINATOR, I WOULD, I WOULD BE ASKING IF IT'S POSSIBLE.
EVERYBODY HAS A SECOND FULL-TIME COORDINATOR EXCEPT ME.
UM, I WOULD LACK TO GET THAT POSITION OPEN.
UH, I CAN TELL YOU NOW, MAYBE I SHOULDN'T SAY THIS, BUT I'M GOING TO, UM, MY PART-TIME COORDINATOR IS GOING TO BE MY NEW, UH, COURT REPORTER.
SHE'S GOING TO COURT REPORTING SCHOOL.
THAT'S GONNA PROBABLY HAPPEN SOMETIMES ABOUT SPRING AND NEXT YEAR, I THINK.
AND IF, IF WE COULD REPLACE THAT WITH A FULL-TIME, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
UM, I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER THAT THE OTHER THING IS, UM, MY, THE COUNTY COORDINATORS DO NOT MAKE AS MUCH AS A DISTRICT COURT COORDINATORS.
I'M NOT SURE WHY THAT HAPPENED.
THERE'S ABOUT A $2,000 A YEAR DIFFERENCE IN THAT.
AND, UM, I'M NOT DEGRADING IN ANY WAY THE DISTRICT COURT COORDINATORS, BUT I THINK THEY BASICALLY DO THE SAME JOB.
IN FACT, I WOULD ARGUE THAT WE HAVE MORE CASES THAN THEY DO.
THEY HAVE THE MORE SERIOUS CASES.
UH, BUT WE, WE HAVE A LOT OF CASES IN THOSE.
THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS OF, AND DISCUSSIONS ABOUT, UH, IN A KIND OF A COMMITTEE SETTING WITH SOME OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS IN THE COUNTY ABOUT, UM, AND WE'VE MADE SOME PROGRESS, I THINK.
AND THAT WAS ONE OF THEM IS, IS A PERSON.
IF YOU WE'VE GOT SOME PEOPLE THAT OCCUPIED THIS KIND OF THE SAME JOB, AND WE HAVE A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT TITLES OUT THERE.
AND SO WE'VE TRIED TO ENLARGE WAS IN THAT MEETING, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE TRIED TO SYNC THOSE UP A LITTLE BIT AND A COURT REPORTER IS A COURT REPORTER THERE.
THEIR WAGES SHOULD PROBABLY BE BASED UPON, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY GET TOTAL WAGE, NOT BASED, BUT THEIR TOTAL WOULD BE BASED UPON, UH, WHAT LEVEL THEY ARE.
HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN IN THE COUNTY AND THAT KIND OF THING.
BUT EVERYBODY, THEY SHOULD ALL BE IN THE SAME BRACKET, A COURT OR A COURT REPORTER IN THE COUNTY SHOULD MAKE BETWEEN THIS AND THAT.
I APPRECIATE BETWEEN THIS AND THAT.
PART OF THAT DISCUSSION WAS LIKE ALL OF THE, WE HAVE, WE HAVE A VARIETY OF TITLES FOR ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANTS AND MOST OF OUR ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANTS OR OFFICE MANAGERS, NOT ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANTS, NOT SECRETARIES, SO WELL STANDARDIZING POSITIONS, AND THEN EVEN PROVIDING A STRUCTURED LEVELS OF ASCENDING LEVELS OF PAY ALSO HELPS YOU BUDGETING IN THE LONGTERM.
I, YOU KNOW, I, UH, I'VE FAILED TO MENTION, I JUST SAW AN EFFECT.
I SENT IT TO THE COUNTY JUDGE THIS MORNING THAT, UH, THE STATE ANNOUNCED THEY'RE BUILDING A NEW 200 BED, MENTAL HEALTH HOSPITAL IN HOUSE.
SO THAT JUST GOT ANNOUNCED TODAY.
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AND I ALREADY HAVE DALLAS TODAY HAS 400, YOU KNOW, SO THERE, I MEAN, DALLAS ALONE IS SUPPOSED TO SERVE FIVE COUNTIES.SO I MEAN, WE'RE HAVING SOME SORT OF TOWN HALL MEETING AND SAID THAT ARTICLE, UH, ABOUT, I GUESS THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN OUR WORLD THAT ARE UNHAPPY ABOUT THE FACT THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT 37 FORENSIC BEDS.
THAT'S NOT FORENSIC THAT'S TOTAL BEDS.
I DON'T, I DUNNO HOW MANY HE'S FORENSIC.
THAT, UH, THE ALISON WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, AND I DON'T MEAN THE CHAIR, I'D ALREADY TALKED ABOUT IT IN THAT IT MAKE IT, FILL IT JUST OFF OF AREA.
YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO GO OUT TO FIVE COUNTIES TO, THERE WERE BANDS IS NOTHING FOR ME IN JAIL.
SO MAYBE, UH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE US HAVING A FOCUS ON POINT MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL FOR THE COUNTY WOULD ALSO MAKE US, UH, AT LEAST HAVING A STRONGER VOICE AT THE TABLE IN, IN HOSPITAL BED, ALEC.
I MEAN, I'VE HEARD COMPLAINTS FROM OTHER COUNTY JUDGES THAT WE, WE COME FROM COUNTY HOGS, TOO MANY BEDS AND IN TERRIBLE STATE HOSPITAL, LET'S SEE.
I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT WE DON'T, WE DON'T GET ANY SPECIAL TREATMENT EMAIL.
AT LEAST IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE TO ME, EVEN THOUGH IT'S WE DON'T GET ANY SPECIAL.
CAUSE I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GIVE US AT LEAST FOUR OR FIVE BEDS DEDICATED TO US TO MOVE OUT.
THEY WON'T EVEN DO THAT UNLESS YOU HAD, OR MAYBE WE'LL TO PUT THEM BACK ON THE TAX ROLL.
I PROBABLY WOULDN'T APPRECIATE THAT WHEN THEY SIT IN THE MAIL LATER, I DIDN'T SEE THE BILL DATE ON THAT HOSPITAL WHERE THEY TALKING ABOUT STARTING WITH, I DON'T REMEMBER THIS WASN'T THIS WAS ABOUT ALL THE HUBBUB ABOUT YEAH.
AND THEY SEND IT MAY OPEN IN 24, 25.
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
I GOT ONE THING TO ADD THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE THE IRISH IS, UH, RIGHT.
LYNN BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION.
WHAT THE CUT IN THE POSITION YOU GOTTA REMEMBER THAT ALSO TOOK FIVE VEHICLES OUT OF THE FLEET WHEN WE CUT THEM POSITION.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER, THAT'S IMPORTANT.
JUST LIKE THE SELECT, LIKE TAKE HOME CARS.
SO, UM, SO DESERET, I SEE TANDY OUT THERE.
I KNOW TANDY HAS NEWS FOR US, BUT DESERET IS ON THE LIST.
YOU JUST KIND OF HAVE TO WAIT.
SO WHEN TANDY COMES UP HERE, WE'RE ALL GOING TO HAVE TO PUT OUR HANDS OVER OUR HEARTS SEARCH.
AT LEAST MAYBE I NEED TO COME AFTER HER.
SO I'M ASKING FOR LILY TO BUMP HER UP.
I HOPE EVERYBODY GOT THE SPREADSHEET THAT I SENT.
SO I COMPARED IT TO THE POPULATION OF THE P THE COUNTIES 10 ABOVE US AND 10 BELOW.
AND, UM, SHE'S KINDA LIKE WHERE SHE NEEDS TO BE.
I THINK SHE NEEDS TO BE UP A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE SHE'S A COORDINATOR.
SO WHAT SHE DOES, WE KIND OF STILL GOT HER IN THAT TO ME, THE CLERK LEVEL, CASE COORDINATOR, CASE COORDINATOR, ME AND THE JUDGE TALKED ABOUT IT THIS MORNING, AND I NEED TO REFER TO HER AS A CASE COORDINATOR.
AND SHE HANDLES MOST OF MY INDIGENT BASICALLY.
UM, SHE TAKES CARE OF WHEN THEY COME IN, SHE DOES THE APPLICATION, SHE DOES THE INTERVIEWS.
UM, SHE DOES, UM, BASICALLY EVERYTHING WITH THE INDIGENT.
THE ONLY THING THAT I DO WHEN IT COMES TO THE INDIGENT IS IF SHE COMES TO A MAJOR ISSUE AND HAS A PROBLEM, I'M THE ONE THAT SAYS YES OR NO, OR WE NEED TO DO IT THIS WAY.
UM, BUT SHE IS ACTUALLY BASICALLY RUNNING THE INDIGENT PART OF IT.
UM, SO I, ON THE SPREADSHEET, IF YOU NOTICED, UM, ELLIS COUNTY, UH, I SPOKE TO HER THIS MORNING, UM, THE LADY THAT WAS THERE, SHE IS ACTUALLY LEAVING, UM, TO POSITION THAT, UM, SHE'S GOING TO BE WHEN SHE HIRES THAT POSITION, SHE SAID PROBABLY AFTER SHE GETS THEM TRAINED AND GETS THEM GOING, THAT SHE'S GOING TO ASK FOR MORE MONEY.
UM, BUT I FEEL LIKE MAYBE IF WE CAN LIFT LILY UP TO AT LEAST, UH, WHERE SHE IS, UM, THEN YOU KNOW, SHE DESERVES IT.
I'M JUST SAYING WHAT SHE DOES.
SHE DESERVES, SHE DESERVES TO BE LIFTED UP.
MATTER OF FACT, EVERYBODY IN THE CLARK'S, THEY ALL NEED TO BE LIFTED UP.
I'M SORRY, I'M GOING TO GIVE MY OPINION.
NOW I'M UNDER DEPARTMENT HEAD.
THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE, THE, UH, PEOPLE.
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THEY, THEY DESERVE A RAISE.UH, AND THERE'S A, THERE'S A SUMMARY IN THE BUDGET.
NOT THAT IT'S RELEVANT TO THE DOLLARS, BUT, UH, DESERET IS HER TITLE.
I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT HER TITLE IS DIRECTOR, BUT ON THE BUDGET SHEET ON THAT, ON KAREN JOHN SPREADSHEET, I THINK SHE'S REFERRED TO AS THE COORDINATOR COORDINATOR.
I MEAN, THAT'S JUST CHANGING THE LABEL AS ALL, BUT YEAH.
AND THEN CHANGE THAT IF WE MAKE THAT CHANGE, WHICH LILY'S TITLE TO CASE COORDINATOR RIGHT NOW, UM, SHE IS CONSIDERED A CLERK, BUT, UM, ON THE BUDGET, I WOULD LIKE HER TO BE CONSIDERED CASE COORDINATOR THAT'S MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THE WORK WORKSHEET.
HAVE YOU LOOKED AT OTHER COUNTIES? THOSE PEOPLE ARE ON CLERKS.
AND WE HAVE OTHER CASE COORDINATORS IN THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW.
PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE TITLE CASE, WE HAVE SOME THAT ARE, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT CASE COORDINATORS.
IN ANY CASE COORDINATOR WILL BE A NEW POSITION TO BE FIXED.
WELL, I MEAN, THEY EITHER ALL NEED TO BE CASE COORDINATORS OR ALL NEED TO BE COORDINATORS.
I WAS THINKING IT MIGHT BE LESS CONFUSING.
SO NO ONE WOULD CONFUSE A COURT COORDINATOR WITH A CASE AS WHAT HE WAS, YOU KNOW, DETAILS, I GUESS YOU CALL THEM WHAT YOU WANT IT TO.
AND IF THEY'RE IN THAT DEPARTMENT, YEAH.
IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE SOME UNIFORMITY.
YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE OTHER PEOPLE I KNOW WHEN WE HEARD CARD, IT SAYS ELIGIBILITY COORDINATORS, WHAT SHE IS.
THAT'S IT THAT'S EVEN A DIFFERENT THING BAR.
JUST MAYBE THAT'S AND MAYBE IT'S NOT GOING TO SHOW THAT IT'S, THIS IS GOING TO SHOW A BIG TOTAL FOR THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT ON THE SALARY SHEET.
THE ISSUE IS GOING TO BE WITH THE HR DEPARTMENT, THAT THEY FOLLOW OUR INSTRUCTIONS TO CHANGE THAT, CREATE A NEW POSITION AND WE'LL TRY AND GET THAT DONE.
SO I'VE BEEN, I MEAN, FOR YEARS AND YEARS, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN DIRECTOR SINCE 2010.
MY TITLE HAS ALWAYS BEEN DIRECTOR.
AND FOR SOME REASON, SOMEHOW IT GOT CHANGED LAST YEAR.
THE COORDINATOR, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT IS.
AND WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT HAVE, THEY'VE GOT LIKE THREE TITLES, THEY GOT ONE PILE IN THE BUDGET.
THEY GOT ONE TITLE IN OUR, IN OUR HUMAN, OUR HR DOCUMENTS IN THERE, THEIR BUSINESS CARDS HIT SOMETHING ELSE.
SO I GUESS THAT KEEPS YOU FROM GETTING PINNED DOWN.
WHAT IS THE POSITION DESCRIPTION SAY? OR IS THERE ONE FOR HER? FOR THE, FOR ME IS THEIR POSITION DESCRIPTION.
I MEAN, EVEN, I MEAN, IT'S JUST, I MEAN, THE DESCRIPTION OF WHAT THE DUTY AND WHAT HR, I THINK HE'S ASKING WHAT YOUR DESCRIPTION OF YOUR JOB IS AND WHAT WAS THE TITLE OF THE HR AND HR OF THE POSITION.
SO, UM, THE JOB TITLE THAT WE HAVE IN THE DESCRIPTION IS INDIGENT HEALTH CARE DIRECTOR.
AND THEN FOR LILY'S IT'S INDIGENT HEALTH CARE COORDINATOR FOR THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS.
I MEAN, WHATEVER THE POSITION DESCRIPTION SAYS IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE AT.
IT'S NICE TO ALL THOSE THINGS ARE SINKED UP.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR DESERET? THANK YOU.
AND THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I DID ASK FOR WAS A LITTLE BIT OF BUMP ON MY, UM, UM, FURNITURE AND COMPUTERS, BECAUSE MY LAPTOP THERE, THEY'RE SAYING THAT IT'S RUNNING WITH THE DINOSAURS AND I NEED A NEW ONE.
SO THAT'S JUST WHAT THEY TOLD ME.
UM, ALL RIGHT, ANDY, UH, KAREN, WHAT ARE YOU SHOWING US IN YOUR DATA THAT YOU PASSED OUT HERE? I FORGOT ABOUT YOU AND I DON'T KNOW WHY I FORGET, CAUSE I KNOW YOU'VE GOT GOOD NEWS.
SO THIS SHEET, JUDGE, UH, YEAH, BUT LET'S, LET'S HEAR FROM TANNY AND THEN SHE CAN GO BACK TO WORK OR WHATEVER SHE'S SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.
SHE HAS PEOPLE THAT WORK, SO SHE DIDN'T NEED TO WORK.
SHE'S GOT PEOPLE, SHE WORKS HARD.
SHE DOES A GOOD JOB LEGITIMATELY.
IF YOU HAD QUESTIONS BECAUSE I RECEIVED AN EMAIL LATE LAST NIGHT THAT DIDN'T GO OUT WITH THE REST OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS BECAUSE I WASN'T ON THE DISTRIBUTION LIST TO SEND YOU AN AMENDED BUDGET, TRYING TO REDUCE WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
SO, SO TELL, SO WE TALKED TO THE PHONE THIS MORNING.
SO TELL ME WHAT YOU'RE TELL US WHAT YOU ARE PROPOSING TO DO TO SAVE US MONEY.
HERE'S WHAT I'M WILLING TO DO BECAUSE
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I CAN'T WITH GOOD CONSCIENCE SHAVE ANYTHING OFF THE BUDGET THAT I PRESENTED FOR THE LINE ITEMS THAT ARE PRESENTED BECAUSE I WAS FRUGAL WITH THOSE NUMBERS, VERY FRUGAL WITH THOSE NUMBERS BECAUSE OF THE INCREASED COST IN PROGRAMMING, AS WELL AS SHIPPING PAPER.AND OF COURSE, AS YOU'VE SEEN FROM THE EMAIL LAST WEEK, LAWSUITS BRING ON CHANGES TO FORMS. THEN THEY'RE MANDATED TO BE REPRINTED AFTER YOU'VE ALREADY PAID FOR THEM.
SO WE CAN'T REALLY SHAVE ANYTHING OFF OF THAT.
I WAS APPROVED FOR A FULL-TIME POSITION FOR A BILINGUAL CLERK IN OUR DEPARTMENT IN AN EFFORT TO HELP GET MY PEOPLE MORE MONEY BECAUSE THEY DO WORK SO VERY HARD AND THEY DO DESERVE IT.
I DO UNDERSTAND WE HAVE A DUTY TO THE CITIZENS.
I HAVE A DUTY TO THESE PEOPLE IN THIS OFFICE WHO WORKED VERY HARD TO PROVIDE THESE SERVICES.
I'M WILLING TO FOREGO THAT FULL-TIME POSITION TO A PART-TIME POSITION, SAVING THE COUNTY $10,400 IN INSURANCE.
I CAN ADD 7,000 INTO MY PART-TIME AND USE MY CHAPTER 19 TO BRING AN ATTEMPT, TO COVER SOME HOURS ON A PART-TIME BASIS, RATHER THAN FEEL THE FULL-TIME POSITION THAT WE HAVE.
BUT THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY CONTRIBUTION IN THAT BUDGET CHANGE THAT I COULD FISCALLY MAKE.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT TANDY TOLD ME THIS MORNING WHEN WE TALKED ON THE PHONE WAS THAT, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S REALLY BEEN A BIG HELP TO HER HAS BEEN WHEN THEY WERE HERE IN THIS BUILDING, ALL OF THEIR EQUIPMENT WAS STORED IN THAT CHECK THERE, UH, AT THE OLD JAIL.
AND SO WHENEVER ELECTION TIME CAME, THEY HAD TO GO GET THAT STUFF AND THEY HAD TO SPREAD IT OUT AFTER HOURS, ALL AROUND THE ANNEX AND COME, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD THIS MASSIVE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT THEY HAD TO DO.
YOU LIKE A MEAL? PLUS OF COURSE THE POTENTIAL DAMAGE OF MOVING ALL THE STUFF AROUND ALL THE TIME.
SO NOW THAT THEY HAVE THAT SPACE, THEY CAN DO ALL THIS STUFF.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO IT ALL AFTER HOURS OR, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S, IT'S, THAT'S WHY ONE REASON YOU THINK THAT YOU CAN GET BY WITH, WITHOUT ANOTHER, THAT IS TRUE.
THE SPACE THAT WE'VE BEEN PROVIDED WITH BY MOVING INTO THE OLD GEL AGAIN, WHILE IT IS NOT PRETTY, AND IT'S VERY FUNCTIONAL FOR US.
I KNOW YOU GENTLEMEN, HAVEN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO UNITY TO SEE THAT COMMISSIONER HAS BEEN THROUGH THERE.
UM, I WORK WITH A VERY DEDICATED GROUP OF LADIES.
THEY HAD NO PROBLEMS PICKING UP MOPS, PICKING UP ROOMS, MOVING THINGS AROUND, AND YOU CAN ASK THAT GENTLEMAN RIGHT THERE, THE ROOMS WE WERE GIVEN, PLUS A FEW EXTRAS ARE COMPLETELY FULL, COMPLETELY FULL.
EVERYTHING IS ORGANIZED LABELED INVENTORY.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT, DID I GET EVERYTHING BACK? WHAT DO I HAVE GOING OUT? WHAT CAN I ACCOUNT FOR, UM, LOGISTICALLY WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GO AHEAD AND PREPARE PPE SUPPLIES FOR NOVEMBER'S ELECTION THAT HAS COMPLETE OUR SUPPLY CRATES HAVE ALREADY BEEN UNLOADED AND REPLENISHED.
THESE ARE THINGS THAT WOULD LOGISTICALLY WOULD HAVE TAKEN OVER TIME TO COMPLETE HERE IN THIS FACILITY.
SO HAVING THE SPACE HAS GIVEN US THAT ABILITY TO SAFELY SAY, WE WILL TRY TO TAKE ELIMINATE THIS FULL-TIME POSITION TO A PART-TIME POSITION BECAUSE GOING INTO NOVEMBER, 2022, WE'RE GOING TO SEE THE PICKUP ON THE MAIL PRETTY QUICKLY.
IT'S ALREADY STARTING TO, WELL, I APPRECIATE YOUR, UH, BEING CREATIVE AND WILLING TO STRETCH IT OUT A LITTLE BIT.
UM, OKAY, SO I HAVE A, UH, KAREN OUT, IF YOU WANT TO GO OVER THE SHEET, I, UH, I HAVE A LITTLE MEDICAL SITUATION IN MY HOUSE THAT I GOT TO GET TAKEN CARE OF AND, UM, I'LL BE QUICK.
THIS, THIS IS JUST A SAMPLE OF, UM, THE PERCENTAGES BY YOUR NEW MOUSE.
AND I NEED YOU TO REVIEW THAT FOR ME.
THIS AMOUNT THAT I USE AS TRANSFER IS ONLY ON MY CALCULATIONS THAT I WAS PLAYING WITH.
UM, IT'S NOT EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET UNTIL WE SET THE AMOUNTS, DIVIDED EVERYTHING.
I WILL TELL YOU WHEN I GOT THE CERTIFIED ROW, RIGHT BEFORE I WALKED INTO THIS ROOM, RODEN BRIDGE WENT DOWN $676 MILLION IN VALUES, M AND O WENT DOWN $678 MILLION IN DEBT, WENT DOWN $670 MILLION.
SO NOW I'VE GOT TO DO MORE CALCULATIONS TO MAKE THESE, WHEN YOU TELL ME WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO WANT ME
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TO SPLIT, OKAY, I KNOW WHAT I GOT TO HAVE FOR DEBT.WE ALREADY TOLD YOU ABOUT THAT.
SO WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT.
WHAT'S LEFT IS WHAT'S GOING TO BE BETWEEN ROAD AND BRIDGE AND MNO.
UH, SO I HAVE A LITTLE GOOD NEWS, UH, ANNABEL AND I WERE LOOKING AT THE BUDGET CALENDAR AND I LEARNED SOMETHING, WHICH IS A GOOD THING.
UM, WE SAT THE 26TH AS THE DATE THAT WE WOULD, UM, I'M SUPPOSED TO, I HAVE TO POST THE, THE DRAFT BUDGET, BUT, UH, WE, WE WENT BACK AND REALIZED THE REASON WE SET THE 26TH, THE DATE, THE DATE IN THE GUIDELINES, WHAT IT SAYS IS BY JULY 31ST, WHERE HE RECOMMENDED THAT IT BE BY JULY 31ST IN CASE MADAM RECOMMENDED.
BUT SO WE'RE NOT REQUIRED TO POST IT THEN.
AND SO THAT GIVES US SOME BREATHING ROOM.
WE GOT ON THE 26 BECAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO MATCH IT UP WITH A, UH, WITH A COMMISSIONER'S COORDINATE.
AND THEN, UM, THE OTHER THING THAT WE HAVE TO DO PRIOR TO WHENEVER WE, SO I THINK JULY 31ST IS EITHER A SATURDAY OR SUNDAY.
SO OBVIOUSLY THE REAL DATE IS THE FIRST DAY IN AUGUST.
SO THE, UM, THE, BEFORE WE POST THE DRAFT BUDGET AND THE DRAFT BUDGET CAN JUST, I MEAN, THIS COULD BE THE TRAP BUDGET.
I'D LIKE TO POST SOMETHING MORE ACCURATE, BUT, BUT, UH, WE HAVE TO PUBLISH THE ELECTED OFFICIALS SALARY PRIOR, BEFORE WE POSTED THIS.
AND WE'D HAVE, WE CAN DO THAT ON ONE DAY AND THEN POST THE DRAFT BUDGET THE NEXT.
SO WE GOT A LITTLE BREATHING ROOM THERE.
UM, AND, UM, UM, SO WE WERE GOING TO MEET ON MONDAY AND TRY TO KEEP ROLLING ALONG.
AND NOW WE GOT THE ACTUAL, NOW THAT WE GOT THE FINAL CERTIFIED ROLLS AND WE'VE GOT SOLID, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT SOLID NUMBER FOR THE FIRST TIME THAT WE, YEAH.
I'M ACTUALLY KIND OF SURPRISED AT THAT, THAT THEY WENT DOWN THAT MUCH.
SHE TOLD ME SHE WOULD SEND IT TO ME ON THE 21ST, 21ST.
I WAS SHOCKED WHEN I SAW IT ON, I DON'T KNOW, ONE 30.
CAN YOU SAY THOSE NUMBERS AGAIN? WE'LL TRY TO GET IN HERE.
670, ALL THOSE NUMBERS FOR SIX MINUTES.
RIGHT? ALL THOSE NUMBERS ON THIS SHEET.
IT'S GOT ALL THE FIGURES THAT YOU PUT IN THERE.
THE NUMBERS GOING DOWN 6 MILLION, ALMOST 7 MILLION
I'VE GOT TO REDO THOSE SHEETS NOW.
AND I WANT TO DO A MOMENT OF PERCENTAGES.
THEN Y'ALL GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT, TELL ME WHAT PERCENT OF YOU Y'ALL WANT.
TO HEAR WHAT WERE THESE DIFFERENT ROAD MILES.
I KNOW, BUT THERE'S TWO OF THEM, TWO OF THEM HERE AND THEIR NUMBERS ARE DIFFERENT.
DO YOU USE A DIFFERENT
THAT'S WHAT THAT EXAMPLE ON THAT SHEET THAT HAD THE HISTORY OF THE THREE YEARS.
AND THEN MY ESTIMATE ON THE TWO THAT'S THE SAME NUMBERS.
ONE OF MY LOT BETTER THAN THE OTHER ONE WHERE Y'ALL HAD AGREED IN 2020, HOW TO DO THAT.
SO THE PRECINCT TWO WOULD NOT BE SLIDED AND HE COULD OPERATE IT KIND OF REALLY CLOSELY ESTIMATED HIS BEGINNING, CARRY HIM VERSE EIGHT.
IF HE SPENDS MORE, ARE WE GOING TO BE IN TROUBLE? HE'S GOING TO BE IN TROUBLE, BUT HE'S GOT LESS MILES NOW.
WE SENT, WELL, I THINK WE'VE TURNED IN A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
CAN I GET UP LATE UNTIL I HEAR THE DARLING? SO IT MIGHT ASK ANYTHING, SAY NO.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING.
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CHECK-IN ALL RIGHT.WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER KATE'S ON BELIEVERS.