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[1. To Discuss the Fiscal Year 2022-2023 Budget.]
MEETING OF THE COPLAND COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURTS CALLED TO ORDER TODAY IS AUGUST 1ST.WE'RE IN THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING ROOMS, ONE 30 IN THE AFTERNOON.
AND WE WERE IN THE MEETING ROOM AT THE COURTHOUSE ANNEX.
FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS TODAY IS TO HEAR FROM OUR EXTENSION TROOP THAT WE HAVE OUT HERE.
SO Y'ALL COME ON UP AND LET US HEAR WHAT YOU GOT TO SAY.
I'M SORRY TO SAY, TRY, BUT I FIGURED THAT IT PROBABLY SHOWS HAPPY FAMILY.
SO JUDGE BEAN ARE MY FIRST TIME.
I'M GOING TO KIND OF DEFER TO CARRIE AND KATIE A LOT FOR THIS.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE YOU ALL ASK QUESTIONS OF US OR HOW THIS TRANSPIRED.
UH, YEAH, EXACTLY REALLY MEAN THERE'S NOT A LOT THAT WE ARE DIFFERENT.
IF YOU'LL LOOK FROM 22 TO THIS YEAR, THERE MAY BE SOME DIFFERENCES BECAUSE WE WERE, UM, TALKING TO BRANDY AND, UH, KAREN THAT WE BROKE THE ACCOUNTS BACK OUT, LIKE THEY USED TO BE IN 21, MAINLY FOR, FOR VISIBILITY FOR US AND TRYING TO, UM, KEEP ACCOUNTS KIND OF SEPARATE.
UH, THE ONE BIG ASS THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS ASKING FOR A THIRD PA AND CARRIE, I'LL LET YOU KIND OF TALK ABOUT THAT SINCE THAT'S REALLY YOUR, SO THE THIRD PA, WE ALREADY HAVE TWO PAS THAT WE'RE WORKING AT WITHIN THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
AND SO WITH FORNEY COMING ON WITH, UH, NOW 12 ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, THE PO THAT WE HAVE THERE IN FORNEY HAS SPENT MOST OF HER TIME OVER IN FORNEY, TRYING TO WORK WITH THOSE TEACHERS.
WE DO HAVE IT WHERE NOW WITH ALL OUR PA'S WORKING IN THE PROGRAMS, WE DON'T NECESSARILY GO FULL TIME INTO THE CLASSROOMS. WE WORK REALLY HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT THE 12 DIFFERENT TYPES OF CURRICULUMS THAT WE'RE OFFERING THE TEACHERS, WHICH WE JUST HAD A TEACHER INSTITUTE THIS SUMMER, WE'RE REALIGNING THE CURRICULUM FOR WHAT THE TEACHERS NEED TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR THEIR SCIENCE PROGRAMS FOR THOSE KIDS IN THIRD TO FIFTH GRADE.
AND SO I'M WORKING WITH THEM ON THAT.
THERE ARE SOME ADAPTATIONS THAT ARE GOING WITH THAT.
UM, A LOT OF OUR PROGRAMS WORK WITH THE ADAPTATIONS THAT WE USED TO HAVE FOR WILDLIFE.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO SWITCH OVER, UH, TO, UH, IT'S REALLY KIND OF INTERESTED IN SOME PLANT SCIENCES.
WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE SCIENCE TEACHERS IN EACH ONE OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE'RE PROVIDING THEM ACTUALLY HELPS THOSE KIDS.
WHEN THEY ACTUALLY GO INTO THE TEXT, THE STAR TESTING.
AND SO ALONG WITH OUR WATER STRING TRAILER, WE'VE SCALED IT DOWN A LOT.
WE DON'T GO ACTUALLY AND TEACH EACH INDIVIDUAL, UM, CLASSROOM.
WHAT WE DO IS WE MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE BOX PROGRAMS SET UP WITH NOT ALL THE SUPPLIES.
UM, I WRITE SOME GRANTS, FARM BUREAU SUPPORTS US.
YOU ALL SUPPORT US, BUT WE GO IN AND TEACH THE TEACHERS HOW TO TEACH THAT INTO THEIR CLASSROOMS. EXPLAIN WHAT THE BOX PROGRAM IS.
BASICALLY OUR, WHEN THE TEACHERS COME TO US AND WE ALIGN OUT WHERE THEY'RE TESTING SCORES TWO YEARS AGO, WHERE THE LOWEST WATER, WHICH IS USUALLY THE WORST EROSION OR WATER CYCLE, SOCIAL SCIENCES ARE ALWAYS LOW.
AND SO THOSE ARE USUALLY WHERE THE KIDS TEST LOWEST THEN BECAUSE THE SCHOOLS DON'T REALLY HAVE THE HANDS-ON MATERIALS FOR THE KIDS TO WATCH A SEED GROW INTO A SOIL.
THAT'S WHERE FARM BUREAU COMES IN.
THEY HAVE A AG IN THE CLASSROOM GRANT THAT I CAN WORK WITH THEM, WHERE THEY BUY WHAT WE, LITTLE SUNDAY TERRARIUM, THE KIDS LEARN THE WHOLE ENTIRE WATER CYCLE AND PLANT CYCLE.
SO I REACHED OUT TO THE SCIENCE TEACHERS EVERY YEAR AND SAID, WHERE DO WE NEED TO GO? JUST LIKE THIS YEAR, WE'LL BE DROPPING A PROGRAM AND PICKING UP A BRAND NEW ONE.
ADAPTATIONS USED TO BE WHERE WE HAD MEALWORMS AND THE KIDS GET TO WATCH THE WHOLE ENTIRE CYCLE OF A MEALWORM, WHICH NOT A LOT OF SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE HAPPY WITH BECAUSE THEY ARE WORMS AND THEY AREN'T CATERPILLARS.
UM, WE'RE GOING TO DO A DIFFERENT ADAPTATION THIS YEAR, WHERE IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE WHERE THE PLANTS HAVE ADAPTED TO HOW THEY SPREADS YOUR SEATS.
AND SO THAT IS ONE THING I'M WORKING RIGHT NOW WITH THE TERRELL ISD AS SCIENCE DIRECTOR AND ALSO WITH THE 40 ICE DAY.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT RIGHT NOW WE CAN GO INTO THEIR CLASSROOMS AND TRY.
AND 20 23, 24, THE TEAKS ARE ACTUALLY SHIFTING.
SO SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE TEACHING THE CLASS RIGHT NOW ARE GOING TO MOVE TO A WHOLE DIFFERENT GREGG GROUP.
SO WE'VE LEARNED THAT THIS YEAR WHEN WE HELD THE TEACHER CONFERENCE, UM, OF SOME OF OUR THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING, THEY LIKE THE BOX PROGRAMS. CAUSE WE BASICALLY RUN EVERYTHING OFF FOR THEM.
THE TEACHERS HAVE IT IN THEIR HANDS.
WE GIVE THEM POINT BY POINT INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO DO A CERTAIN PROGRAM.
AND THEN WITH IT, IF I CAN, IF I CAN AFFORD THE SUPPLIES, THE SUPPLIES WERE IN THERE FOR THEIR CLASSROOM.
AND SO THAT BOX IS THEN TAKEN TO THE SCHOOL, THE TEACHERS THROUGH MY HELP AND THE TWO PROGRAM ASSISTANTS, WE TEACH THE TEACHERS HOW TO DO THE SEGMENT FOR THE SCIENCE TEACHERS.
AND SO I CALL IT A BOX PROGRAM BECAUSE WE'VE PACKAGED UP THERE ONCE FOR THE NEW YEAR INTO A NICE BOX THAT HAS EVERYTHING THEY NEEDED FOR THAT.
AND SO INSTEAD OF US GOING IN AND ACTUALLY
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TEACHING THE CLASSROOM OF 23 KIDS AND JUST REACHING OUT TO 23 KIDS AT A TIME SINCE OUR PROGRAM ASSISTANTS ARE A PART-TIME HELP, IT'S EASIER FOR ME TO HAVE THE KID, ME TRAIN THE PROGRAM ASSISTANTS AND THE PROGRAM ASSISTANTS TO ACTUALLY GO IN AND TEACH THE TEACHERS.SO LAST YEAR WE REACHED OUT TO ALL OF THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND FORNEY, ALL THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS IN TERRELL, UH, TO HERE IN KAUFMAN AT ALL OF CAMP SCORING ROSTER.
WELL, HOPEFULLY THEY WERE GOING THROUGH AN ADMIN CHANGE.
AND SO WE'RE HOPEFULLY TO PICK THEM UP THIS YEAR, BUT 40 REALLY CAUGHT ON QUICK.
AND SO A TERROR OVER THERE THAT TOOK UP A LOT OF HER TIME TO WHERE SHE'S WORKING WITH THE TEACHERS VERY CLOSELY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE COMFORTABLE DOING THOSE BRONX PROGRAMS. AND THE, AND THE TEACHERS SEEMED TO APPRECIATE IT BECAUSE THE SCIENCE TEACHERS WERE ABLE TO TAKE THE INFORMATION WE GAVE THEM.
AND THE SUPPLIES TAUGHT USE WITH TARA TAUGHT THEM HOW TO SAY AND DO.
AND THEN THEY PRESENTED IT TO ALL THE, ALL THE STUDENTS ARE MATERIALIZED OR SUPPORTING ISD WITH THAT BEING SAID, THOUGH, TARA'S TIME WAS RUNNING OUT BECAUSE, UM, THANKS TO KAREN'S HELP AND EVERYBODY ELSE'S.
I KNOW EXACTLY HOW MANY HOURS I CAN WORK THEM WEEK THAT WHAT DO YOU HAVE IN 12TH? THAT'S NOT HAVING 12 ELEMENTARY IS IT'S GOING TO TAKE ONE PA JUST FOR THAT WHOLE ENTIRE SCHOOL DISTRICT OVER THERE.
UM, PANDORA CAME UP AND SHE COVERED KAUFMAN AND THEN HER AND I TAG TEAM TERRELL, TERRELL'S A WONDERFUL SCHOOL DISTRICT.
THEY'RE NOT REALLY CHANGING OVER THEIR TEACHERS VERY MUCH.
AND SO WE HAD A LOT OF TEACHERS STILL THERE FROM THE YEAR BEFORE.
UM, AND SO, BUT THIS YEAR WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME BRAND NEW TEACHERS COMING ON.
AND SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO TRAIN THOSE TEACHERS IN ON HOW TO ACTUALLY WORK IN THOSE SCIENCE LABS.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'D LIKE TO, IF WE HAVE THE TIME, IF WAS ONE OF MY DRIVERS, SO I CAN REACH OUT TO MORE TEACHERS, ONE MORE PROGRAM ASSISTANCE, I WOULD BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO HAVE MORE TIME FOR THEM AND NOT HAVE TO SPLIT THEM OFF SO MUCH AWAY FROM THE TEACHERS.
WELL, I MEAN, I GUESS THE BOX PROGRAM ACTUALLY 20 YEARS AGO OR SO, I MEAN, WHEN IT STARTED, I MEAN, CAUSE AT CRISWELL WHEN WE ONLY HAVE ONE ELEMENTARY BASICALLY, RIGHT.
WE HAD IT ON THE OUTSIDE, YOU KNOW, WITH SANTA PAULA, THE FLOWER BED OUTSIDE, IT WAS THE SAME, IT WAS THE SAME PROCESS, SAME PROCESS.
NOW WE'RE UP THE TOILET 12 ELEMENTARY AND I THINK THEY HAVE TWO MORE PLAN FOR NEXT YEAR, RIGHT? YES, SIR.
AND SO IT'D BE 14 NEXT YEAR AND I GUESS, AND I GUESS IT'S KIND OF IN THE SAME PERCENTAGE CATEGORY THEY HAD THIS PERSON AND THEY WAS PAYING SO MUCH AND WE'RE PAYING SO MUCH THE DIFFERENCE BEING, I DID THE EASY MATH TOO, BUT THEN I WAS, UM, KAREN HELPED ME OUT WITH THAT.
IT DOESN'T PAY FOR THE PARAPRO.
I KNOW THE PARAPRO PROGRAM ASSISTANTS ARE A STRICTLY COUNTY COUNTY LENS.
THAT ARE OUR FORCES, OUR SALARIES.
SO YEAH, NO, I WAS ON THE, HOW WE CAME UP WITH THAT, THAT TOTAL AMOUNT IS WHERE I THOUGHT IT WAS AN EASY TAKE.
WE HAD THE BUY BUY TWO, THEN ADD IN.
I FOUND OUT FROM KAREN, THAT'S NOT HOW I'M SUPPOSED TO DO IT.
UM, AND SO SHE HELPED ME COME UP WITH THE LINE ITEM THAT I'M SUPPOSED TO ASK FOR AARON AND BRANDY HAVE BEEN GREAT, ESPECIALLY WITH TRYING TO HELP DEVELOP THIS.
SO IF THAT'S THE, WHAT, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE CAN JUST REACH OUT TO MORE TEACHERS AND IN, AS, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN HEAL ANYTHING WE NEED TO DO TO HELP THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS WITH THAT STAR TESTING, UM, AND THEN TRY TO GET THOSE AND MAKE THAT SCIENCE, UM, SCIENCE TEST PART A LITTLE BIT MORE EXCITING.
I'M ALWAYS FOR, THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT IS NICE TO HEAR ABOUT RIGHT NOW.
Y'ALL DO MORE THAN JUST THE STUFF AND START TESTING.
RIGHT? Y'ALL CAN WE HAVE LIKE AN ENVIRONMENTAL CHEST? YEAH.
SO KAUFMAN, UH, PAM QUARTER AND LISA WORKED ON A, AN ENVIRONMENTAL TECH CHEST THAT WAS USED HERE IN KAUFMAN.
I HAVEN'T SEEN IT SINCE THEY DEVELOPED IT ALL THE WAY THROUGH, UH, LISA HAS SINCE RETIRED AND SO PROBABLY NEED TO GET WORKING BACK THROUGH THAT, BUT WE ALSO HAVE SOME OF THE, UM, STUFF COMING DOWN THROUGH OUR STATE THAT ACTUALLY IS ENVIRONMENTALLY LED.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE TEAKS THAT ARE GOING THROUGH THE SCHOOLS RIGHT NOW IN 23, 24, THE ACTUAL SOCIAL ENVIRONMENT OF HOW HUMANS INTERACT WITH THEIR ENVIRONMENT IS ACTUALLY MOVING DOWN SOME GRADES.
SO THEY'RE GOING TO START INTRODUCING THAT INTO LOWER GRADES SO THAT THEY'RE MORE PREPARED FOR THE TEST LATER ON.
SO, BUT RIGHT NOW, WHEN WE USE OUR WATER STRING TRAILER, WE TALK ABOUT THE, UM, THE EFFECTS OF HUMAN INTERACTION ONTO THE WATER CYCLE.
BASICALLY WHAT HAPPENS HERE IN KAUFMAN COUNTY WILL AFFECT THOSE DOWN THE WAY WE ACTUALLY START TALKING ABOUT THE TRASH IN IT.
AND THEN, SO THE, THE, BOTH ARE THE BOXES THAT YOU ALL DEVELOPED HERE IN KAUFMAN.
I'LL PROBABLY NEED TO GET BACK WITH PAM AND START WORKING BACK THROUGH THOSE WITH SOME OF THE OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS, RIGHT WHEN HER AND LISA DEVELOPED THOSE BOXES COVID HIT.
AND SO IT WAS REALLY KIND OF HARD TO TURN THEM INTO A VIRTUAL COMPLEX
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THAT MAKES SURE THE OBJECTIVES ON THE TAKES ARE CORRECT FOR THE UPCOMING YEARS.HE DOES A GREAT JOB, RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY.
SO IS THERE ANYTHING YOU NEED TO ADD ON YOURS? AND MY STUFF IS PRETTY CUT AND DRY.
I, UH, I DO CHARGE SOME FUNDING OR, UM, FEE-BASED PROGRAMMING AND, UM, I ALWAYS COVER ENOUGH TO ALWAYS CHARGE ENOUGH TO COVER MY EXPENSES, PLUS SOME OF THE MONEY THAT YOU ALL GIVE ME.
I'VE TRIED VERY HARD TO KEEP MY PROGRAM.
SELF-SUPPORTING THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT WE WE'VE PUT IN HERE IS, YOU KNOW, PRETTY SHARP, MOST, MOST OFFICERS WILL BE DOING THAT AS YOU KNOW, INCREASE IN OUR CAR ALLOWANCE, JUST BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE BEAST RIGHT NOW WITH, UM, WEIGH GAS AND FUEL AND ALL THE UPKEEP ON OUR VEHICLES ARE, UM, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, IF THE COUNTY IS GOING TO BE GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO GIVE A COST OF LIVING RAISE OR AN INCREASE, WE JUST ASK THAT EVERYBODY IN THE OFFICE BE CONSIDERED IN THAT.
I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING Y'ALL DO FOR OUR OFFICE.
ARE YOU ALL IN THE LEASE VEHICLE PROGRAM? WE STARTED NOT ON THAT.
WE ARE WORKING TO TOWARDS FILLING SHARON'S POSITION.
WE HAVE 30 APPLICATIONS THAT WILL START THE INTERVIEW PROCESS ONCE WE'RE ALL BACK IN THE OFFICE AT VARIOUS TIMES.
SO WE HAVE INCLUDED THAT SECRETARY POSITION IN THE BUDGET BECAUSE WE DESPERATELY NEED A SECOND SECRETARY AND DANIELLE SALARIES BY THE ATM SYSTEM, RIGHT BY A PORTION AND A NEW COUNTY CLAY SUPPORT.
SO MY PERCENTAGE, MY PERCENTAGE AND TOMMY'S PERCENTAGE AND CARRIE'S PERCENTAGE ARE ALL DIFFERENT, RIGHT? SOME COUNTIES IT'S ALL SET ON THE WORST.
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AND EVERY YOU COULD BE, YOU COULD GO TO EVERY COUNTY, WE TOUCH YOU.
AND EVERY COUNTY IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT ON PERCENTAGE THAT THE COUNTY PAYS, THE STATE PAYS AND THEN HOW MUCH THE AGENT GETS PAID.
IT'S IT'S BEEN SET UP YEARS AGO.
I REALLY DON'T HAVE A HARD TIME FOLLOWING IT TOO.
IT IS ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS TO ANSWER? ARE YOU ON YOUR LEASE PROGRAM? THEY WEREN'T TOO HAPPY.
WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE LEASE PROGRAM.
WHEN I TOLD THEM I NEEDED TO BE ABLE TO LIKE, HOLD ON FOUR INCHES, 32 FOOT GOOSENECK LET'S TALK SHOWS.
THEY WEREN'T REALLY PLANNING TO RELEASE THAT TABLEAU VEHICLE TO ME SO WELL, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IF THEY WOULD SAY TO SOME MONEY TO DO THAT, I THINK WOULD DEFINITELY BE WORTH LOOKING INTO, BECAUSE I MEAN, WE HAVE THE VEHICLES, YOU KNOW, FOR THE ROAD AND BRIDGE CREWS THAT ARE LEASED.
SO THE ISSUE WITH THAT IS THERE'S A LOT OF TIME THAT THE THREE OF US ARE GOING THREE DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.
SO WHO GETS THE CAR? AND IT GETS, I'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE.
THE FOUR H PARENTS AND I, WE ALWAYS WORKED THROUGH ALL THE MATTER OF FACT, WE'RE MEETING THIS MONTH ON THE LIVESTOCK SHOWS, WE'LL MEET TO SEE WHO'S ALL GOING TO WISH THE DIFFERENT LIVESTOCK SHOWS.
AND I HAVE ENOUGH OF THE HEIFER TRAILERS OR STEER TRAILERS ARE GOING OUT.
I'M ALWAYS THE LAST ONE ON THE ROAD.
AND SO THE REASON BEING IS IF SOMEONE BREAKS DOWN, I'M ALWAYS COMING UP IN THE END, WE CAN SEPARATE THE VEHICLES AND I CAN HOOK UP AND TAKE OFF THE PHONE, PERSONAL VEHICLE.
I HAVE ONE TON DUALLY, RIGHT? ONE TIME, JULIA.
I LIKE MY, MY, THE CHECKER I HAVE RIGHT NOW IS A PRETTY NICE SHORTBREAD.
AND WHICH IS REALLY KIND OF HARD FOR ME CAUSE I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A DUTCH PERSON.
SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? NO.
JUST HAVE A LITTLE ORGANIZATIONAL MOMENT HERE IF WE CAN.
THIS IS WHAT I WOULD CALL THE PLAN FOR THE DAY FOR THE REST OF THE PROCESS.
IF YOU WANT, I GOT AN EXTRA, I'M SURE YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PAPER IN YOUR LIFE.
FIRST THING I WANT TO SAY IS THAT, UH, IS THAT THE KAREN AND HER TEAM HAVE, UH, I SENT THEM AN EMAIL TO THREE O'CLOCK ON FRIDAY, AND NOW YOU GOT, DIDN'T GET NOBODY SHOT AT ME OR I DIDN'T GET ANY BOUNDS IN MY MAILBOX OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT THEY THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK, UH, AND REALLY
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THEIR STUFF THAT THEY'RE PRODUCING FOR US AS VERY CLEAN AND EASY TO READ AND ALL OF THAT SORT OF THING.AND IT'S BEEN ALL OF THEM, I THINK, HAVE ALL BEEN WORKING FOR US.
SO, UM, SO KAREN AND THEM, THE FIRST THING, IF YOU, THOSE FIRST TWO BULLET POINTS THEY'VE GOT, THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE US A SPREADSHEET.
I WENT OVER AND MET WITH HER A WHILE AGO AND KIND OF REVIEWED IT.
UM, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT WHAT THE TOTAL COSTS OF BRINGING ALL THE EMPLOYEES TO THE MID POINT.
AND I'M TALKING ABOUT CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT, YOU'LL SEE THE AREAS THAT I'M ASSUMING THAT WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES THAT WERE INCLUDING THE CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES IN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN SEPARATING LAW ENFORCEMENT FROM EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT I'M ASSUMING THAT IF LIKE WE HAVE A 5% COLA FOR CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES THAT THE CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICES WILL BE IN THAT GROUP.
UM, THE, AND THEN THE SECOND PART THERE, THE SECOND TWO BULLETS IS ABOUT LOOKING AT THE, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE TOTAL COST OF ADDING THE REQUESTED POSITIONS, ALL OF THEM.
AND THEN, UM, LAST BUT NOT LEAST, WE'LL LOOK AT THE TOTAL COST OF THE WAGE INCREASE, UH, ASKED FOR BY LAW ENFORCEMENT, WE'LL TAKE ALL THOSE FOUR AND ADD ALL THOSE FOUR NUMBERS TOGETHER.
AND SO THE FIRST, FIRST JOB OF THE DAY IS TO GET THAT TOTAL AND FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF IMPACT.
UM, SO LET'S TAKE THAT ONE STEP AT A TIME.
AND, UH, KAREN, WHEN Y'ALL, WHEN Y'ALL PASS THAT FIRST SHEET OUT, THAT'S THE WAGE ADJUSTMENT SHEET, MA'AM THE PRESCHOOL OF THE BLUE AND THE GREEN AND ALL THAT.
I'LL GIVE YOU A SECOND TO LOOK OVER THAT.
SO LET'S FOCUS ON THE GREEN PART.
UH, EVERYBODY KIND OF LOOKED THROUGH THOSE AND UP TO SPEED THERE, UH, DID Y'ALL DID Y'ALL GET THAT, UH, 5,000 AND 10,000 THING DONE? NO FORMULA WOULDN'T WORK.
BUT WE DO HAVE 55 PEOPLE ALREADY THE MID POINT CURRENT, LIKE 55, NOT VERY MANY OUT OF 400.
SO WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS THAT I'M TALKING TO THE AUDITOR TEAM EARLIER.
UM, THEY, WE HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED THE QUANTITY, THE NUMBER YET, BUT THERE'S, WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT IF WE MOVE THEM TO THE POINT, THEY WERE GOING TO SHOW US HOW MANY PEOPLE, IF WE MOVE INTO THE MID POINT ARE GOING TO GET A $5,000 RAISE AND HOW MANY WILL GET A $10,000 RACE.
AND, UH, ONE OF THE LADIES SAID HER SHEEP JUST FROM LOOKING AT IT, AS SHE THOUGHT IT WAS QUIET THAT WE HAD QUITE A FEW PEOPLE THAT WERE GOING TO BE IN THE $10,000 RAISE CATEGORY.
SO I'M JUST GIVING YOU THAT FOR INFORMATION FOR NEXT, THE NEXT SUBJECT, SIR, 20 OF THEM THOUGH, RIGHT? YEAH.
I TALKED TO SOMEBODY, ONE OF OUR EMPLOYEES TODAY, THAT'S, UH, I ASKED HER WHAT SHE WOULD, WHAT HER DEAL IS TO GO TO THE MIDPOINT.
SHE SAID 15,000, UM, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY FOR A ONE-YEAR RAISE.
SO YOU SEE THE TOTAL IMPACT OF MOVING EVERYBODY TO THE MIDPOINT WITH THE COLA IS 4 MILLION READY TO MOVE ON TO THE BLUE.
UH, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN BROWN SHERIFF, I GUESS IT'S INSTEAD OF BLUE.
UH, SO THE COST OF THOSE OF THAT RAISE REQUESTED WITH THE 5% COLA IS 2.6 MILLION.
AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE TOTAL IMPACT OF THE BOTTOM, WHICH INCREASES OUR K THE 6.7 MILLION IS, IS A, THAT'S A 12% INCREASE IN OUR, UH, TAX FUNDING.
SO CONVERSATION FIRST, UM, DOES ANYBODY, I MEAN, DO YOU FEEL LIKE MAYBE WE SHOULD SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO MOVE EVERYBODY TO THE MID POINT?
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UH, NOT INCLUDING PEOPLE THAT ARE GETTING A 10 OR 15 OR $20,000 RAISE, DOES THAT SEEM, THAT SEEMS UNCOMFORTABLE TO ME.SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME, JUDGE.
WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE SOME EMPLOYEES WHO WILL BE IF THEY GET A, IF THEY MOVE THEM TO THE MID POINT THAT THEIR INCREASE WILL BE, AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE AT THIS LAST MINUTE TO, TO WHENEVER THIS DISCUSSION CAME UP ABOUT ONE O'CLOCK, UM, HOW MANY EMPLOYEES DO WE HAVE? THEY'RE GOING, GONNA GET A $5,000 RAISE.
HOW MANY EMPLOYEES DO WE HAVE? WE'RE GOING TO GET A 10,000, RIGHT? MAYBE EVEN HOW MANY ARE GOING TO GET A 15 OR 20, IF WE JUST STICK WITH THAT FLAT FORMULA, WE PROBABLY HAVE THAT FOR YOU TOMORROW.
UM, IF WE, THAT JUST SEEMS LIKE A BIG NUMBER TO ME.
IF ANYBODY ELSE FEELS LIKE IT'S A BIG NUMBER, 10, 15, 20,000 IS A BIG NUMBER FOR RAISE RAISING A YEAR.
I GUESS IF YOU GO OVER TO THE DA'S OFFICE AND YOU FIND THAT OTHER BRACKETS IN THE AREAS AROUND US AND SHE'S THAT FAR UNDER, THEN IT COULD BE ADJUSTED THE QUESTION.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT THE PARTICULAR CLIENT.
I THINK THAT'S, UH, AS I TOLD YOU EARLIER, JUDGE, I THINK THAT'S THE LIMITATION OF HAVING JUST THESE THREE LEVELS.
UH, YOU KNOW, THAT CONCEIVABLY, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THE GOAL IS TO BRING IT TO THE MID POINT OR HIGHER, IT MIGHT NOT BE REALISTIC TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT ALL IN ONE YEAR.
SO IF WE DIVIDED, UH, IF WE ENDED UP WITH, INSTEAD OF THREE LEVELS, LET'S SAY WE HAD SIX LEVELS.
IF WE, UH, IF WE JUST FOCUS ON THE MID POINT, WELL, EVEN ONE LEVEL, EVEN IF YOU MADE IT.
I'M A BRILLIANT LADY HERE FOCUSED ON ONE LEVEL.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO THE STUDY AND YOU FOCUSED ON ONE LEVEL, IT'S FINE.
IF IT SHOULD COME BACK TO THAT ONE LEVEL AND SAY, THIS LEVEL GOES FROM 15 TO TWENTY-FIVE AND IT'D BE UP TO THE DEPARTMENT HEAD IN SOME SENSES THE SAME, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S JUSTIFIED.
I MEAN, UM, WELL, I JUST THINK IF YOU CREATED A MID, MID POINT, LET'S CALL IT THAT IF YOU CREATED SOMETHING BETWEEN THE LOW AND THE MEN, IT MIGHT BE, IT MIGHT BE MORE FISCALLY, HALFWAY, HALFWAY.
IT MIGHT BE MORE IN THE LOW, IN THE MID FISCALLY.
AND THEN, AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE THAT, THAT NEXT HERE AS YOUR GOAL IN THE NEXT YEAR OR IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS OR WHAT? OH, WELL, YOU KNOW, I, I FEEL LIKE THAT USING THE SALARY SURVEY, THOSE ARE NUMBERS THAT WE CAN'T REALLY REACH.
IT WOULD BE NICE TO BE ABLE TO GO TO THE MID POINT.
AND THEN KNOWING THAT THE SALARY SURVEY IS TWO YEARS.
OH, IT WAS COMPLETED IN 21, BUT I'D SAY MOST OF THE WORK PROBABLY WAS LATE 2020.
SO, I MEAN, IT'S REALLY OUTDATED NOW.
SO, BUT THE, BUT IT DID SHOW US THAT WE ARE BEHIND, IT GIVES US SO, BUT, AND THIS IS WHAT I WOULD, I THINK IT WAS NICE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO THE MID POINT AGAIN.
I THINK WE NEED TO DECIDE ON A CROSS THE BOARD, KEEP THE SPICING THERE AND JUST GO ACROSS THE BOARD FOR EVERYBODY THAT WE CAN AFFORD THE COST OF LIVING INCREASE WITH THAT.
SO WE'RE, JUSTING, WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO THE MIDPOINT IN INCREMENTS LIKE JOAQUIN WAS TALKING ABOUT IF WE DO FIVE OR 7,000 WITH A 5% COST OF LIVING WHERE WE'RE MAKING MOVEMENTS TO THE MID POINT.
I MEAN, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THERE.
I MEAN, THE NUMBERS SHOW WE CAN'T GET, I WOULD LOVE TO MAKE IT HAPPEN FOR EVERYBODY OR REMOVE THAT DIRECTLY.
IF WE CAN MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION.
IF WE DO, IF WE CHOOSE TO SAY A 7,000 ACROSS THE BOARD AND THE 5% COST OF LIVING, WE'VE MOVED THEM UP TO THE MID POINT.
WHEREAS YOU RECOGNIZE THERE WILL BE SOME PEOPLE, HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU SAY ARE ALREADY AT THE MIDPOINT 55.
SO, SO I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT THE MIDPOINT OF A TWO YEAR OLD.
BUT IF THAT'S THE ONLY THING WE HAD TO WORK WITH IS THOSE.
SO IF YOU'RE AT THE MID POINT, THE PERSON THAT'S AT THE MID POINT, THEY'RE GOING TO GET THEIR 5% UNDER THIS PRACTICE, THIS PLAN, UH, THEY'RE GOING TO GET THEIR 5% COLA, BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET ANYTHING ELSE BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY AT THE MIDPOINT.
RIGHT? WELL THE 5% COAL IS NOT BAD.
I MEAN, IF THEY'RE AT THE MID POINT AND YOU KNOW, THEY PROBABLY BEEN AT THE MIDPOINT FOR A LONG TIME.
AND SO, I MEAN, THEY'RE DOING PRETTY WELL BY THE STUDY ANYWAY, BUT I JUST THOUGHT WE'RE JUST GOING TO DO IT.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING
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IS LIKE A $7,000.SO WE DECIDE ON SEVEN AND THEN YOU'RE SAYING, IF THEY'RE AT THE MID POINT, THEY DON'T GET THE SEVEN.
AND IF THE SEVEN TAKES THEM UP WITH A MID POINT, THEY DON'T GET SEVEN.
SO IF SOMEBODY NEEDS $2,000 TO GET TO THE MIDPOINT, THEY DON'T GET SEVEN AND THEY GET TO GET A 5% COST TO LIVE IN.
THE 5% COST OF LIVING IS THAT'S, THAT'S TOTALLY SEPARATE, YOU KNOW, FROM THE, FROM THE INCREMENTS THAT COMES, I THINK THAT'S GOTTA BE COMPETED ON CURRENT SALARY.
AND THEN, THEN AN ADJUSTMENT FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK IF WE CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN, I THINK THE 5% OUGHT TO BE AT THE NEW MIDPOINT.
IF THAT'S THE WAY WE DECIDED TO GO.
BECAUSE, BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE'RE STILL GOING BACKWARDS.
I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A BIG NUMBER, WHETHER IT'S 5% ON THE CURRENT AND 5%, I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A BIG, IS GOING TO BE UNREAL.
THE OTHER POINT, THAT'S GOING TO BE HARD FOR US TO DO EVERYTHING WE'RE ADJUSTING TO GIVE TO HR IF THEY CAN PUT IN THE WEEKEND AUDIT TO MAKE SURE IT'S RIGHT.
SO RIGHT ACROSS IS REALLY THE EASIEST, BUT I DO TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT HE'S SAYING.
IF IT TAKES SOMEBODY TO MIDPOINT OR GIVE THEM THE 5%, THE MID POINT IS TWO YEARS AGO OR WHATEVER.
SO YOU ARE, YOUR COAL IS NOT WORKING.
I MEAN, YOU FOLLOW WHAT I'M SAYING? IT'S NOT RIGHT.
SO I MEAN, IF SOMEBODY WAS SITTING THERE AT THE MIDPOINT, THEY GET 5%, THEY GET 5%.
BUT WHAT IF THEY GOT A THOUSAND DOLLARS, THEY DIDN'T GET TO BUY A HUNDRED PERCENT.
THAT'S WHY I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU SAID, WHETHER THEY'RE BEHIND, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT MOVING FORWARD.
ANYTIME YOU GIVE HIM THE ADJUSTMENT.
HE'S WONDERING, BUT IF YOU'RE GIVING THEM ACTUAL COLDPLAY LIFE, IF YOU'RE NOT FIGURING IN THE COST OF LIVING NO WAY THEY BAN, THEY GET THAT 5%.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT WHETHER WE APPLY THE 5%? IF YOU JUST SEVEN.
BEFORE WHAT I'M SAYING THAT, WELL, 10% OF 7,705 OR 73 AND $50 A YEAR.
I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE'RE, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
IT'S NOT GOING TO MATTER TO US, BUT IT MIGHT MATTER TO THEM.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU BASH YOUR HEAD AGAINST THE WALL.
WELL, IT MATTERS TO THEM THAT WE'RE NOT RESPECTING THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE, EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE SAYING DOLLARS, I'M SAYING YOU GOT PERCENT
BUT MAKE THE, MAKE THE RANGE ADJUSTMENT AND THEN APPLY THE COLA.
BUT AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THAT'S, BUDGETWISE JUST GOING TO BE, I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE MUCH.
UM, ANYBODY GOING TO DIE IN THAT DITCH? NO.
MAKE A NOTE TO THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.
CAN YOU JUST SAY IT ONE MORE TIME SO I CAN MAKE SURE I, OKAY.
SO WHAT I UNDERSTAND THIS DISCUSSION TO BE THAT THE 5%, IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAST SENTENCE ON THE SECOND BULLET, IT SAYS THE COLORS SHOULD BE APPLIED TO THE CURRENT WAGE, NOT THE WAGE ADJUSTED FOR MIDPOINT.
UM, AND THE PROPOSAL THAT'S ON THE TABLE HERE IS SHOULD WE APPLY IT TO THE ADJUSTED WAGE, NOT TO THE, NOT TO THE CURRENT WAGE.
AND I'M SAYING THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO, I DON'T THINK THE BUDGET IMPACT THAT IS GOING TO BE, UH, AREN'T GOING TO BE A BIG NUMBER.
SO, UM, IT'S NOT, WELL, IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT THE ADJUSTED WAGE IS, BECAUSE IF IT IS GOING TO BE 15,000 FOR SOME EMPLOYEES, I THINK WE'RE AT, I HEAR THAT.
WE'RE NOT DOING, I HEAR WE'RE NOT DOING $15,000.
I DON'T THINK WE CAN HAVE, I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
BUT THE NUMBER SHOT, WE JUST CAN'T AFFORD TO USE OUR SOAP.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH, UH, ANOTHER, WE'LL COME UP WITH ANOTHER MID POINT.
IT'LL BE HALFWAY BETWEEN THE, UH, LOW RANGE AND THE MID POINT RANGE.
AND WE'LL WHY ARE YOU SHAKING HERE TO ME, KAREN, WHO'S GOING TO MAKE THAT DECISION OF WHAT PARTS IN YET IT IS RIGHT HERE, WHATEVER PROPOSED MS.
WE WANT A NUMBER RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE EVERGREEN LET'S LET'S PUT SOME, LET'S PUT SOME, UH, LIKE SAY LET'S SAY THAT SOMEBODY IS AT $30,000 AND THE MIDPOINT FOR THEIR IS SUPPOSED TO BE 40,000.
WHAT WE WOULD DO IS ESTABLISH A BRACKET AT 35,000 AND THEY'D GET A $5,000 RANGE SET OF A 10,000.
I THOUGHT WE DISCUSSED THAT AND NOBODY MAKES LESS THAN THAT ALREADY.
THEY DON'T, THEY MAKE 36,000 AS OUR MINIMUM.
I'M JUST USING NUMBERS AS AN EXAMPLE,
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THIS, WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WAS USING ANOTHER DAY.I'M JUST USING THAT AS AN EXAMPLE.
AND I THINK KAREN AND I GOT IT, WE GOT TO FIGURE IT OUT.
SO THAT'S TOO MANY MINUTES, SO, OKAY.
BOTTOM LINE IS, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA GO FOR THAT.
MA'AM, WE'LL GET TOGETHER IN MIDPOINT.
WE'LL GET TOGETHER IN THE MORNING.
TOMORROW IS BUDGET BETWEEN MINIMUM AND MID PLUS A 5%.
SO NOW I'M CLARIFYING, MOVING ON TO THE BLUE.
UM, YOU GOT THE SAME QUESTION IS THE, THIS $5,000 INCREASE, APPLIES TO WHO SHERIFF, NOT CIVILIANS.
WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THAT.
AS FAR AS I KNOW, I DON'T HAVE A CIVILIAN.
EVERYBODY USUALLY IS TROUGHS TRAINED.
AND THEN WHEN WE MOVE THEM OVER THERE EITHER CAN FILL IN THE JAIL OR DISPATCH.
SO IT WOULD PRETTY WELL IMPACT EVERYBODY ACROSS THE BOARD.
SO, LIKE I SAY, I'VE TALKED TO THE CONSTABLES AS WE, ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE COMING TOGETHER UNITED AS LAW ENFORCEMENT.
AND WHAT WE ASKED, WE ASKED FOR $5,000 ACROSS THE BOARD AND WE ASKED FOR OUR STEP PAY TO MOVE TO 12.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO SETTLE WITH.
UH, SO I THINK WE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN, THIS MID RANGE AND STUFF, I KNOW Y'ALL, DIDN'T INCLUDE A SHERIFF'S DEPUTY AND STUFF, BUT IF YOU'LL GO THROUGH THE VERY BOTTOM, YOU'LL SEE THE SALARY OF THE SHERIFF ELECTED OFFICIAL.
IF YOU LOOK AT, AT WHAT I GOT RIGHT NOW AND WHAT THAT MID RANGE IS, IT'S 18,000 9 52.
THERE, AIN'T NO WAY I'D ASKED FOR 18,000 9 52.
UH, THAT'S WHY WE'RE SAYING 5,000 ACROSS THE BOARD, CHANGE YOUR STEP PAY.
CAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE NEED THE BIGGEST HELP.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE SAYING WE'RE READY, THAT'S IT.
BUT WE WILL, UH, I DON'T TO, I DON'T AGREE WITH THE CIVILIAN PART OF IT.
YOU SAY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT ALL CIVILIANS, THEY'RE NOT ALSO VEGANS, BUT A PERSON THAT DOES CLERICAL WORK IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT OR CONSTABLE'S OFFICE W ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S, THAT'S A CONCERN FOR ME IS THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS DIFFERENT DEMANDS.
I MEAN THAT THE, THAT THE, CERTAINLY THE PRESSURES ON WAGES ARE, ARE, ARE MORE AGITATED IN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT, BUT I'M ALSO A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE, HOW WE TREAT OUR OTHER EMPLOYEES COMPARED TO THE WAY THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND LAW ENFORCEMENT GUYS HAVE BEEN GETTING RAISES MORE RAISES THAN WHAT THE CIVILIANS HAVE.
SO I THINK, AND Y'ALL GOT 3% TOO, BECAUSE Y'ALL COME BACK AFTER SELLING PROPERTY.
1.5 BACK, YOU MADE 3%, TWO AND A HALF PERCENT LATER, NOT OUR EMPLOYEES.
I, UH, PETER DID A, IF A CIVILIAN, IF A PERSON IN YOUR OFFICE OR CONSTABLE'S OFFICE, THIS MY OPINION, IF A PERTINENT ON WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE THINKS, IF A PERSON WORKING IN YOUR OFFICE OR CONSTABLE'S OFFICE IS DOING, IF THEIR JOB IS DOING CLERICAL WORK, I WOULD CONSIDER THEM TO BE, THEY SHOULD BE GETTING THE SAME PACKAGE THAT THE PEOPLE IN THE GREENER GETS.
WELL, THEY'RE THE SAME PEOPLE THAT DO THAT ARE ALSO WORKING IN THE JAIL AND DOING A LOT OF JAIL WORK TOO.
UH, SO THAT'S A BIG THING AND MOVING OVER TO DISPATCH WHEN WE NEED SOME HELP OVER THERE.
SO WE CROSS TRAIN THEM TO DO ALL THAT.
MOST OF THEM MOVE AROUND TO GET THESE POSITIONS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY EIGHT TO FIVE, BECAUSE WE ALSO GIVE THEM STEP PAY IN THAT PROGRAM TO, WE HADN'T EVEN DISCUSSED THIS STEP.
AND WE HAVE MANY BOOKS THAT WE, WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T BEEN ADJUSTMENT IN IT.
UH, DESMOND IS MOVING IT FROM 25 YEARS, 24 YEARS TO THE 12TH, CUTTING IT IN HALF SO THAT WHEN THEY RETIRE THEY'RE TOP AND THEY'RE TOP TIER AT 12 YEARS INSTEAD OF 24.
SO WHEN WE CALCULATE THAT NUMBER THAT WOULD COME OUT TO WE A NEW REQUEST TOTALS, OKAY.
IT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THIS, THIS, BUT IT IS INCLUDED IN THE NEW PAYROLL REQUEST SPREADSHEET, WHICH IS A SHEET.
SO IT'S CONSIDERED CONSIDERED LIKE A NEW REQUEST.
I DON'T THINK WE'VE PASSED THAT OUT YET.
BRANDON, YOU CAN PASS IT OUT NOW IF YOU'LL HEAR IT.
IT LOOKS LIKE THAT IS THIS ONE.
I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT, BUT WELL, TALKING WITH THE GOSPEL AND ALL OF US, THAT'S
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WHAT WE, WE AGREE THAT, YOU KNOW, FIRE, I SHOWED YOU THE MIDDLE RANGE OF ALL THE COUNTIES THAT'S CLOSE TO US.WE PICKED THE MIDDLE OF THAT BEING FAIR, ESPECIALLY WITH TAXPAYER'S MONEY.
5,000 WAS A GOOD ACROSS THE BOARD, UH, TO DO THAT.
PLUS CHANGING UP THE STEP PAY WOULD MAKE THAT VERY FEASIBLE AND WHAT WE'RE DOING WELL.
I MEAN, I, I DID SOME RESEARCH WITH, I LOOKED AT PROBABLY THE SAME INFORMATION THAT YOU HAD, AND I THINK THERE WAS ONE THING I'LL BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION.
WE TALKED ABOUT HOW PAY, UH, TALKING ABOUT MANAGEMENT OUT THERE, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN PAY.
UH, I WILL TELL YOU THIS MUCH IN MAY OF 2021 TO SEPTEMBER OF 2021, OUR DEPUTY APPLICATIONS THEN AFTER Y'ALL GAVE THE, THE 50,000 FROM OCTOBER, 2021 TO FEBRUARY, 2022, WE INCREASED OUR DEPUTY APPLICATION BY 77%.
NOW FROM MARCH NOW TO JULY THE 20, WE HAVE DECREASE IN DEPUTIES OVER 48%.
SO WHAT DO YOU DO TO RECRUIT, RIGHT? WHAT DO WE DO? WE GO TO TONS OF ACADEMIES.
WE'RE GOING ALL OVER TO TONS OF ACADEMIES, ALL THIS GOING AROUND OR KILL GIRL ALL THE WAY TO DALLAS EVERYWHERE.
HOW ABOUT LIKE VETERANS ORGANIZATIONS ARE TRANSITIONAL FROM ACTIVE DUTY, MILITARY RECRUITING.
LIKE WE'VE PUSHED ALL OF THEM OUT THERE THAT WE CAN DO THAT HAS CERTIFIED PEACE OFFICERS COME TO WORK FOR US.
SO WE'VE ALSO IN THE JAIL CERTIFIED PEACE OFFICER.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING WE CRUDE UNLESS YOU WORKED FOR US IN THE JAIL.
AND LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE SEND THEM TO THE ACADEMY.
IS THERE, IS THERE, UH, UH, WHY WOULD YOU NOT BE INTERESTED IN A GUY THAT NEEDS TO GO TO THE ACADEMY? IT'S NOT A JAIL BECAUSE THIS AWAY I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I GOT WHEN THEY'RE COMING HERE.
WE'VE, WE'VE TRIED THAT AND IT HADN'T WORKED AS WELL FOR US.
THE BEST THING WE'VE GOT GOING FOR US IS I KNOW THEIR WORK HISTORY.
I KNOW THEIR WORK ETHIC AND IT HAS PAID OFF FARMERS, BUT IT LIMITS YOUR APPLICANTS.
I REALLY HADN'T BECAUSE WE'VE GOT QUITE A FEW, BUT THE ONLY REASON WE HADN'T SEEN ANYBODY LATELY IS BECAUSE WE'RE DOWN IN THE JAIL.
BUT ONCE AGAIN, MY PROBLEM IS, IS WHEN WE'RE PAYING JAILERS PAYING, YOU JUST SAID, YOUR 10 48% IN APPLICANTS, WE ARE IN DEPUTIES.
BUT YOU JUST SAID, YOU GOT PLENTY OF APPLICANTS.
I SAID, WE GOT PLENTY IN THE JAIL THAT WE CAN SEE AND THAT ARE WILLING TO WANT TO GO.
BUT UNTIL WE GET BACK TO THE JAIL, I GOT NUMBERS UNDER JAIL COMMISSION THAT TELLS ME HOW MANY NUMBERS I HAVE TO HAVE.
SO I CAN'T SEND THEM A SHERIFF.
WELL, ANOTHER THING I'D LIKE TO ADD TO THAT TOO, IS, UM, YOU KNOW, IF LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE, UNDER CURRENT SALARIES, OKAY.
YOU DO RECRUIT SOMEBODY AND SEND THEM TO THE ACADEMY.
WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING IN THE PAST.
THEY WORK HERE ABOUT TWO YEARS.
SO WE'RE WORKING WE'RE TRAINING.
AND AS YOU REMEMBER, WHEN I PRESENTED THAT IT'S NINE, 900 AND SOMETHING THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR LEAVING IN TRAIN.
BUT THAT COULD BE ADDRESSED THROUGH AN EMPLOYMENT CONTRACT.
AND THEN AN EMPLOYMENT CONTRACT FOR TWO YEARS, YOU CAN MAKE A CONTRACT LONGER.
WELL, I PROBABLY CAN, BUT MY LEGAL ADVICE IS PROBABLY WOULDN'T LIKE THAT ANY LONGER, BECAUSE ALL, IF YOU LOOK AT THE STANDARDS OUT HERE, IT'S TWO YEARS ACROSS THE BULLETS, WHAT ELSE YOU HAVE TO DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO.
SO IT SHOWS YOU, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT, THIS IS, THIS, THE NEW PROPOSED POSITIONS IN THE SYSTEM NOTES OF WHATEVER, FINDING ME FROM 24 TO 12, THE MUCH IMPACT WITH THIS COMING BUDGET YEAR.
IF YOU'RE PREGNANT, UM, SHERIFF, I'M SORRY, I DON'T HAVE AN EXTRA SHEET HERE.
LOOK, I, I LOOKED AT KAUFMAN HUNT, ELLIS AND GRAYSON COUNTIES, NOT JUST FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT FOR THE TOTAL LAW ENFORCEMENT.
UH, AND HERE'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS LOOKING FOR.
I, I HAD THE FEELING THAT WE WERE WAY BELOW STANDARDS ON.
WE WERE WAY BELOW STANDARDS ON THE NUMBER OF LAW ENFORCEMENT PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE.
AND THIS IS PEOPLE WORKING IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE.
AND WHAT I FOUND WAS IN ELLIS COUNTY, OF COURSE, THAT'S THE CLOSEST ONE.
ELLIS COUNTY HAS 98 PEOPLE IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
I'M NOT INCLUDING DISPATCH OR, UH, I'M JUST THINKING I'M IN OR THE JAIL.
I'M JUST COUNTING THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ITSELF.
UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY DO THIS.
THEY ONLY HAVE NINE CONSTABLES.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WILL, HOW THAT WORKS.
BUT THE BIG NUMBER TO ME IS WE GOT, SO WE HAVE 121 PEOPLE WORKING IN LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THE COUNTY.
IF YOU ADD THE SHERIFF'S AND THE CONSTABLES TOGETHER.
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AND IF YOU ADD THE PATROL CONTRACTS THAT WE HAVE, UM, WE HAVE 150 PEOPLE WORKING IN LA YOU KNOW, WORKING IN SHERIFF, CONSTABLE OFFICES ARE IN THOSE DEPARTMENTS.SO THE TAKEAWAY FROM THAT TO ME IS THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT US COMPARED TO OTHER COUNTIES, WE WE'VE, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF BODIES.
WELL, I W I WOULD THINK FOR LET'S COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES.
WHEN YOU START DOING THIS, LET'S START LOOKING AT HOW MANY, UH, CITIES THE POPULATION IS.
HOW MANY HAVE MUDS THAT OUR POPULATION IS OUT THERE? UH, I THINK YOU GOT TO LOOK AT THAT AND CALLS FOR SERVICE.
CAUSE I'M GOING TO TELL YOU HUNT COUNTY, AND THEN DON'T DO THE CALLS FOR SERVICE THAT WE DO.
IF WE'RE GOING TO COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES, WE NEED TO COMPARE THE WHOLE THING.
THE TAKEAWAY FROM DOING THIS LITTLE RESEARCH PROJECT FOR ME IS THE FACT THAT WE ARE NOT BEHIND EVERYBODY ELSE.
WHEN IT COMES TO THE NUMBER WE'RE NOT BEHIND THE, WHAT I CONSIDER THESE COMPARABLE COUNTIES, WE'RE NOT BEHIND AND HAVING BOUGHT OUR, WE GOT, WE GOT A BETTER BODY COUNT THAN WHAT ARE OUR NEIGHBORS AS FAR AS NUMBERS.
BUT WHEN WE START WORKING IN CALLS FOR SERVICE, HOW MUCH STUFF ACTIVITY THERE IS, THAT'S PROBABLY A DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT DEAL.
CAUSE YOU KNOW, I'D LOVE TO HAVE 50 DEPUTIES, BUT WHEN I'M DOING OVER 150,000 CALLS FOR SERVICE AND THIS OTHER, ONE'S DOING 20,000 CALLS, SORRY, YOU DON'T NEED NEAR AS MANY DEPUTIES.
IT'S IT'S RAW NUMBERS, ROLL NUMBERS.
AND THEN, UH, AND THEN I, I JUST, I LOOKED AT THE THREE POLICE DEPARTMENTS.
WE TALKED ABOUT TERRELL FORNEY AND KAUFFMAN.
UM, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE WOULD NEED TO BE IN TERMS OF, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE WE SHOULD BE OUR REAL NEED IS, I MEAN, OUR REAL NEED IS, I MEAN, WHAT WE NEED MORE THAN ANYTHING IS PATROL PEOPLE, RIGHT? ISN'T IT.
WELL, W WHY, WHY WOULD ELLIS COUNTY HAVE LESS CALLS FOR SERVICE US WITH A GREATER POPULATION? YOU CAN LOOK AT IT AS FAR AS HOW MANY IS IN THE CITIES.
I GOT QUITE A FEW MORE BIGGER CITIES THAN WE DID WATCH OUT.
THERE'S SOME MORE BIGGER ONES OVER THERE.
I MEAN, NOT TO SAY I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T LOOK AT THIS CITY POPULATIONS OR STUFF.
AND AGAIN, I'M LOOKING AT RAW NUMBERS.
DON'T TELL COVER ABOUT 60% OF THE COUNTY.
WHEN YOU FIGURE OUT THE POPULATIONS OF THE CITIES, YOU GOT MIDLOTHIAN, FERRIS WALKS, PAGEANT, MIDLOTHIAN, FERRIS WALKS, PATCHY.
I MEAN, APPLE, WHAT TO AUNTIE HAS A REAL BIG PLACE.
UM, OKAY, WELL, I HEAR YOUR ASS SHERIFF AND, AND, UH, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET READY TO COME DOWN TO NOT JUST FOR YOU, BUT FOR EVERYBODY IS, UM, WELL, WHAT WE'RE GETTING READY TO COME DOWN TO IS, I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET DOWN TO WHAT'S THIS TOTAL, MY GOAL FOR THE DAY IS TO COME UP WITH A TOTAL FIGURE AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION IS WHAT CAN WE PAY? I THINK WE'RE MY TOTAL FIGURE PLAN IS MESSED UP BECAUSE WE'RE, NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE CHANGING THE MID RANGE CALCULATION.
SO I GUESS WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A REALISTIC TOTAL TODAY.
WELL, YES, THIS THAT WE HANDED OUT PHYSICIAN THE GENOME.
AND WAS THAT ALSO TAKEN THEM POSITIONS WE REQUESTED WE'D TAKE OUT, CORRECT? YEAH.
THIS IS THE NEWEST ONE, RIGHT? YEAH.
BUT WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT TOO IS BECAUSE Y'ALL WAS TALKING ABOUT THE, FOR MOVING THAT OVER.
IF Y'ALL DO THAT, WHATEVER THAT WE WOULD, WE WOULD KEEP THE FOUR AND THAT WOULD ONLY GO TO TWO.
SO WHATEVER, WHATEVER CHOICE Y'ALL DO INBOX IN THIS NUMBER, I THINK TWO DEPUTIES IS WATCHING THIS NUMBER.
I DON'T KNOW, SAY AGAIN, THIS, THIS SIX.
YEAH, WE SHOULD REVISE THAT TO TWO.
UM, BUT YEAH, THAT'S IT FOR YOU.
Y'ALL MOVE THEM AROUND AND WE'D KEEP THE FOUR THAT WE'VE GOT.
SO THE 12 TALK ABOUT THE STEP, PAY A LITTLE BIT.
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A THREE-YEAR DEAL TO A ONE YEAR DEAL.IS THAT WHAT? EXPLAIN THE STEP, PAY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
CHANGING THE STEP PAY RIGHT NOW EVER.
THE SAY DEPUTIES, EVERY TWO YEARS, YOU GET $2,000.
IT GOES OUT TO 24 YEARS, A TOTAL OF $24,000.
WHAT WE'RE DOING IS TALKING ABOUT CUTTING THAT IN HALF, YOU GET 2000 EVERY YEAR UP TO 12 YEARS TO STEAL TOP OUT AT 24,000, BUT AT A SHORTER TERM, THE NO, NO STEP PAY AFTER THAT, HUH? NOPE.
NO STEP AFTER THAT, THAT'S A 24 B12.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO SHORTEN IT UP BECAUSE EVERYBODY ELSE HAS SHOWED IT THERE FROM EIGHT TO SIX, I MEAN EIGHT TO SIX.
WHAT YEARS THESE CITIES HAS NOW MOVED THERE.
THEY'VE GOT THERE AT EIGHT AND NOW THEY DON'T MOVE THERE TO SIX.
OR MAX OUT PHONY, I THINK IS MAXING OUT AT 84,006 YEARS.
I MEAN, I GUESS THE BAD PROBLEM IS THEY CAN'T RETIRE ALL, THEY'RE ALL THERE.
THEY'RE JUST IN THEIR TOP BRACKET.
IT'S GOING TO MAKE THEIR RETURN.
THE ONLY GOOD THING, LIKE I SAY, THAT'S WHY WE'RE SAYING 5,000 CHANGES.
THE ONE THING WE HAVE GOING FOR US IS LONGEVITY PAY.
THAT'S STILL THERE AND THAT RUNS OFF YOUR BASE PAY.
SO IT'S STILL, YOU'VE GOT AN INCENTIVE TO KEEP STAYING HERE.
SO YOU SAY THAT THE ASK IS 5,000, 5,000 ACROSS THE BOARD ACROSS THE BOARD, REDUCE THE STEPS.
AND THE 5%, COUPLE OF, IF Y'ALL WANT TO ADD THE 5%, WE'D GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT.
I THINK IF WE'RE DOING THE 5,000 IN THE STEP, I THINK THAT SHOULD, WE SHOULD TAKE OUT THE 5%, ALL THE OTHER.
THIS IS WHAT WE'RE ASKING, BUT Y'ALL GUYS, AREN'T GOING TO SEE THE STAMP FOR TWO MONTHS.
SOME OF THEM, SOME OF THEM WILL CAUSE I'M GOING TO HAVE BEEN HERE THREE YEARS AND THEY'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET THAT AT OTHER 2000.
ALL OF THE PEOPLE ABOVE THEM ARE GOING TO, OH, THEY'RE GOING TO SEE IS THE 5,000.
CAUSE MOST OF THEM ARE TOPPED OUT.
WHAT WERE YOU SAYING? HOW MANY TOTAL EMPLOYEES WOULD, ARE YOU TARGETING FOR 5,261 TO 61? THAT IS CORRECT.
UM, AND KAREN, YOU HEARD THE DISCUSSION OR Y'ALL HEARD THE DISCUSSION, NOT DOING THE 5% COLA IF WE'RE REALLY, IF, IF, IF THIS IS WHAT WE'RE, IF THIS IS THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING, THEN THAT WOULDN'T BEEN, WE WOULDN'T INCLUDE THAT 5% COLD.
THE STEP PAY INSTEAD OF THE COLA, BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE UH, OKAY.
WHAT CAN WE COUNT? I BET YOU, YOU MADE A COMMENT ABOUT THAT SINCE WE KIND OF CHANGED, YOU HAD A NUMBER WITH THE 5% COLA FOR ACROSS THE BOARD.
WERE YOU THINKING OF A CERTAIN NUMBER? I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION.
YOU SAID YOU MADE A COMMENT THAT I GUESS IT MISSED IT.
MY NUMBER, SINCE WE DECIDED TO GO THE MID POINT OF THE MID POINT.
NO, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS.
NOW I WAS CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT YOUR NUMBER WAS.
I THINK WHAT I THINK WHAT I HAVE IN MY MIND IS TO TAKE THE, THE MID POINT THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, THE MID POINT RANGE, THE MINIMUM RANGE AND SPLIT THE BABY.
I MEAN, JAWS THING THAT IT'S ACTUALLY EASIER ON THAT IF YOU WOULD JUST PICK WHAT YOU FOUR TO FIVE, I'M SORRY, I MISSED THAT.
BUT EVERYBODY AT YEAR FOUR OR FIVE, RIGHT? REMEMBER YOU DID YOUR PERCENTILES AND THEN YOU JUST GO TO YOUR FOUR TO FIVE YEARS.
IT'S PRETTY EASY TO FIGURE BECAUSE THAT THE EVERGREEN STUDY LISTS PEOPLE OUT 25 PLUS RIGHT ON ACROSS THE TOP, ON THE EVERGREEN STUDY.
SO YOU, SO INSTEAD OF YOUR MID RANGE WAS YOUR EIGHT TO NINE YEARS, WHICH ALL SAID, SO YOU JUST GO BACKWARD TO FIGURE THE MID OF THE MED.
YOU JUST PICK FOUR TO FIVE OR SIX TO SEVEN, WHATEVER Y'ALL DECIDE YOU WANT TO COME UP WITH.
AND THAT RIGHT MATTER MONITOR, IT'S NOT LIKE, IT'S YOU JUST PULL IT OUT OF YOUR HEAD.
AND I WAS LIKE, I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO PUT OUT YOUR DAY EASIER.
IT'S RIGHT ACROSS YOUR OWN CHART.
THAT'S ALL I WAS SAYING TO GET THE NUMBERS.
I WILL, UH, THE MID OF THE MID, I WILL LEAVE THE, I'LL LEAVE THE MATH TO THE AUDITOR TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE SIMPLEST WAY TO DO THAT.
I THINK YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO RIGHT? WHEN THE MID RANGE, MID LANE CHANGE THE YEAR OR SO WE'VE GOT TO SET UP.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE SHERIFF? NO.
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I'M THINKING A LOT ABOUT IT AND ELLIS COUNTY.I THINK THE REASON THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT HAS LESS DEPUTIES IS BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE MORE RULE AND THEY DON'T HAVE HOUSING.
I, YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING AT NUMBERS AND WHEN I SEE THE COUNTING, THE CONTRACT DEPUTIES WE HAVE IN THE, IN THE AREA, THAT'S 150 GUYS AND WE GOT 150 GUYS INTO A LAW ENFORCEMENT WORK.
TO YOU'D HAVE TO ADD IN CINDY'S IF YOU DID ELLISON AND IN THE CITIES HERE AND I'D BE PROBABLY COME AT IT IN THE CITY SHARE, YOU CAN BE MORE SAYING, I DON'T KNOW.
NUMBERS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT ARE BIGGER, BUT WE, HE HAS NO CONTROL OVER CONSTABLE AND THEIR MEANINGS OF THAT.
BUT THERE'S STILL PEOPLE STILL OUT THERE ON THE STREET.
I MEAN, THEY RUN THEIR OWN ENTITIES, BUT THAT TAKES UP A LOAD OFF OF THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT COSTS.
WELL, WE NEED TO LOOK AT, BY OUR STATE LED DISTRICTS, CALLS FOR SERVICE IS A HUGE THING.
AND I KNOW BECAUSE I LISTEN TO THEM ON THE RADIO ALL THE TIME AND IT'S CRAZY.
WELL, I'M JUST SAYING HE HAS TO ANSWER EVERY CALL AND BY THE TOO, EVEN THOUGH THE CONSTABLES WAS THERE, THEY'RE ANSWERING THE CALLS.
YOU ALREADY HAVE THE MAJOR CRIME.
IF SOMEBODY CALLS, YOU KNOW ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW, THE LOUD SOMEBODY BARKING DOG OR SOMEBODY THAT THEY'RE TAKING LESTER.
THE CONSTABLES ARE DOING THAT.
WELL, I DON'T THINK HE'S AS LOW.
CAUSE IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE WE'RE STILL SUPPORTING THEM AND BACKING THEM UP.
SO IT'S JUST TO GET SOMEBODY THERE FASTER, RIGHT? THAT'S IT.
WELL THAT OPENS A WHOLE DISCUSSION ABOUT EQUAL PAY FOR EQUAL WORK THEN BRIAN, THAT'S FINE.
I KNOW IT CONCERNS ME WHEN I HEAR SEEMS TO BE OF COURSE WORSE ON THE NIGHT SHIFT AND ON WEEKENDS, UM, DEPUTY'S GOING ON DOMESTIC DISPUTES WHERE THERE'S VIOLENCE BY THEMSELVES.
AND YOU KNOW, THE MORE GUYS WE CAN GET OUT THERE FOR THOSE BACKUPS AND THINGS ARE BETTER.
I THINK NOT ONLY THAT, HAVING MORE SENIOR OFFICERS ON THE STREET, INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, TO YOUR THEY'VE GOT THREE-YEAR GUYS THAT ARE CONSIDERED SENIOR GUYS ON PATROL.
I MEAN, IT'S CAUSE YOU KNOW, THEY'RE MOVING ON.
SO WE NEED SOME MORE SEASONED OFFICERS OUT THERE MAKING THOSE DECISIONS.
HOW MANY DEPUTIES HAVE LEFT IN THE LAST 24 MONTHS? I CAN'T TELL YOU OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
I CAN TELL YOU THE LAST PHONE THAT JUST LEFT, WENT TO PHONY.
AND I INTERVIEWED EVERY ONE OF THEM AND TALKED TO HIM ABOUT IT.
AND THEN I ADDED, MY TWO OF THEM ALSO SAID, OKAY, I HAD HR LOOK NOW IT'S A LITTLE OUT OF DATE.
IT WAS ABOUT THREE MONTHS AGO.
AND IN 24 MONTHS, LIKE SEVEN DEPUTIES HAD LEFT IN 24 MONTHS.
WELL, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO RETIRE.
THERE'S TOO MANY THINGS AFTER OUR SON WOULD BE, WELL, THAT'S WHAT I GOT FROM HR RIGHT NOW.
I ADMIT IT'S A LITTLE, IT'S ABOUT THREE MONTHS OUT OF DATE.
UH, BUT UH, THAT, THAT WAS THAT MAYBE SHE HAD INCOMPLETE INFORMATION.
CAUSE I KNOW HR DOESN'T HAVE ACCESS TO EVERYTHING THAT KSL DOES.
WE SEND ALL OUR FARMS TO THEM.
THE SAME THING WE DO THE ALTAR.
HERE'S WHAT YOU REPORTED THAT THERE WERE MANY OF THEM THAT HAD NO EXIT INTERVIEWS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THAT'S A DIFFERENT, I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE ACTUAL TURNOVER WITH.
DID YOU, HOW DID YOU GET THOSE NUMBERS? I CAN GET THEM.
WELL MY DREAM OF COMING UP WITH A TOTAL CRASH AND BURN TODAY, BUT I, I, I'M GONNA JUST KIND OF THROW DOWN THIS.
DID YOU GET THAT POWERPOINT I SENT YOU? NO, I GAVE YOU BECAUSE IT HAD ALL THEM NUMBERS IN IT.
YOU TAUGHT THE ONE THAT YOU DID HERE.
UM, UM, BEFORE, BEFORE WE GOT INTO, WELL, NEVERMIND.
I'M NOT GOING TO GO DOWN THERE TO THE ESSENTIALLY UNTIL WE GET THIS MIDPOINT THING FIGURED OUT, THERE'S NO SENSE IN WORRYING ABOUT THESE NUMBERS.
NOW YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, SIR? NOT RIGHT NOW.
BRIAN, IF YOU SEND THAT TO HIM, THAT'S SOME GOOD INFORMATION.
AND I JUST MAKE THEM INVESTIGATORS SAY THAT I DIDN'T INCLUDE HIM OR HER.
WE GOT A LOT OF MOVING PARTS OVER HERE, JUDGE.
UM, SO LET'S GO DOWN TO THE NEXT SUBJECT IN HERE.
THE AMOUNT OF FUNDS AVAILABLE.
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HERE'S THE QUESTION WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THIS.WE REALLY HAVE TWO FUNDS THAT WE HAVE TAKEN TEXTS THAT WE HAVE COLLECTED TAXES ON TO TWO PLATE.
ONE OF IS FROM THE REVENUE SIDE, THE TAXES SIDE WE'VE WE LIKE ALWAYS, WE, UH, WE UNDERESTIMATED HOW MUCH WE WERE GONNA TAKE IN, IN TAXES, WHICH IS NORMAL.
UM, AND WE OVERESTIMATED HOW MUCH WE WERE GOING TO SPEND.
NOW THE SPENDING SIDE OF THAT WAS I THINK $3.2 MILLION WHENEVER THE AUDIT OR DID THIS PROJECTION, THAT'S A DUPLICATE, BUT WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.
BUT NOW THIS IS JUST THE SPENDING SIDE, NOT THE, NOT THE REVENUE SIDE.
HOW MUCH ARE WE UP IN TAX REVENUE OVER WHAT WE PROJECTED? DO YOU REMEMBER? I'VE GOT THAT.
YEAH, BUT I THINK I HAVE THAT HERE, ACTUALLY THE PERCENTAGE.
WELL, ANYWAY, SO BACK TO THE SUBJECT, THE QUESTION THAT I'M ASKING YOU GUYS IS, ARE YOU INCLINED TO USE, IF WE NEED TO USE THESE EXCESS FUNDS FROM THIS YEAR TO FUND OUR, OUR MOSTLY SALARY SITUATION FOR NEXT YEAR, ARE YOU WILLING TO USE THAT, THOSE FUNDS FOR THAT KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR WITH THE, UH, WHAT WE SET ASIDE FOR THE RADIO TOWER? CAUSE I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY WAY THAT THIS IS GOING TO WORK IF WE USE THAT.
CAUSE I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT A PRETTY BIG TAX INCREASE OTHERWISE.
UM, WHAT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO USE THAT 3 MILLION FOR IS TO FUND OUR BUILDING PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, CAUSE RIGHT NOW THE LAST NUMBERS WE SAW, WE WERE 2 MILLION IN THE HOLE WITH OUR BOND BUILDING PROGRAM AND STILL IN REAL ESTATE.
SO I'D LIKE TO SEE US MOVE IT OVER TO THE BUILDING FUND AND MAKE, BECAUSE THESE ARE TAX DOLLARS.
AND THE BUILDING FUND, THE BOND FIELDING FROM BOND FUND WAS ALREADY VOTED ON BY THE VOTERS OR SOMETHING THAT THEY WANTED TO DO.
SO WE USE THAT TO FINISH FUNDING OUT NOW IN A PERFECT WORLD.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE CONSTANT UNDER RUNS.
I MEAN OVERRUNS OR WHATEVER, WITH WHAT THEY'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW WITH THE JUSTICE CENTER.
SO I MEAN, IF WE HAVE A LOT OF MONEY COMING BACK AND WE CAN FINISH OUR BOND PROGRAM AND GET THESE BUILDINGS REMODELED, I THINK WE OUGHT TO GO IN AND TAKE THAT AND PUT IT IN, IN THE BOND BUILDING PROGRAM.
I THINK WE'RE GOING TO NEED IT FOR SALARIES.
I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, IF, IF, IF THE NUMBERS PLAY OUT THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT, I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULDN'T ALLOCATE THAT TO SOUND RES IF WE DON'T HAVE TO, IF IT'S THERE'S THERE'S ONE HALF TO AND WANT TO.
SO WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S, UH, I HAVE TO DEAL TO USE IT FOR SALARIES.
IF NOT, I'D LIKE TO GO TO THE BUILDING PROGRAM.
WELL, WHERE THE HALF TO PART COMES IN IS THAT IF THAT, IF YOU ADD ALL THE SALARY INCREASES TOGETHER AND IF IT COMES UP AS BIG OF A TAX INCREASES, I THINK IT IS THE HALF TOO ON MY PART IS IT'S GOING TO BE A BIGGER INCREASE THAN I THOUGHT WE SHOULD TAG OUR, I HAVEN'T SEEN IT.
I MEAN, WE HAVE TO GET THE FINAL NUMBERS AND THEN WE'LL KNOW, BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THAT WITH THE GROWTH AND STUFF, WE'RE NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT A TAX INCREASE.
UH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AN INCREASE.
IS THAT GOING TO BE A TAX RATE, INCREASE COMMENT, A DOLLAR, A SIGNIFICANT DOLLAR I'M FOCUSING ON THE TAX RATE.
I'M NOT, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE, WELL THAT DOESN'T DO ANY GOOD TO THE TAXPAYER.
THE TAXPAYER HAS TO WRITE A TAX PAYMENT CHECK.
THE TAX RATE IS A PRODUCT OF WHAT WE COLLECT IN TAXES AND BEING A VICTIM OF GROWTH.
AND WE AREN'T REALLY VICTIMS OF GROWTH.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT.
OUR POPULATION GREW SCROLLING FIVE OR 6% A YEAR, BUT THAT DOESN'T EQUAL A 15 OR 20% INCREASE IN TAXES.
SO WE SHOULD HAVE SOME EFFICIENCIES TO, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THE POPULATION GROWS 10%, WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO ADD 10% PEOPLE IN THE TAX OFFICE.
AND THE, AND THE DOWNSIDE JUDGE, THE DOWNSIDE TO DOING THE SAME THING WE DID LAST YEAR.
IF WE TAKE THAT EXCESS MONEY AND USE IT FOR SALARIES, YOU MAY NOT HAVE ANY EXCESS MONEY TO FILL THAT VOID NEXT YEAR AND THE YEAR AFTER.
SO EVERY ONE OF THESE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF INCREASES HAS GOT TO BE FUNDED, NOT ONLY THIS YEAR, BUT THE YEAR AFTER AND THE YEAR AFTER.
AND, AND, UH, IF, IF, IF OUR EFFICIENCIES ARE OR ARE ACCURATE, IF WE ARE SUCCESSFUL AND, UH, IN HAVING THE COUNTY ACTUALLY PROJECT TRUE BUDGET NEEDS, AS OPPOSED
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TO OVER PROJECT, THE WAY WE'VE DONE IT, WHICH IS HOW WE HAVE THIS EXCESS, THEN THERE'LL BE NO EXCESS NEXT YEAR TO PICK UP THAT SLACK.SO, AND EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE AWARE THAT IT'S A CUMULATIVE EFFECT.
WE'RE STILL WHAT WE'RE IN AUGUST AND I KNOW WE'RE GETTING CLOSE, BUT YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF ONE-TIME EXPENDITURE.
HE COULD POSSIBLY HAVE ANY DEBT, 3 MILLION UP BETWEEN NOW.
AND IF YOU TAKE EVERY, IF YOU TAKE EVERY DEPARTMENT, RIGHT, YOU'LL TELL HER FALL OVER.
IF YOU TAKE EVERY DEPARTMENT, WE EACH SHOULD.
WE GOT ENOUGH, WE GOT ENOUGH DEPARTMENTS THAT IT SHOULD EVEN OUT.
DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE TO ADD? YES, SIR.
YOU WANTED TO KNOW THE BREAKDOWN SINCE 10 21.
THERE'VE BEEN 21 DEPUTIES LEFT SINCE 10 21.
HOW MANY CAME ON? BRIAN 21 LEFT ALL THAT, UM, DISPATCHERS RIGHT THING AND DETENTION WAS 83RD STAND POINT.
SO, AND COULD YOU JUST FIND OUT FOR ME HOW MANY CAME ON SINCE THE END AS WELL? THANK YOU.
IF, IF WE, IF, IF WE HAVE TO USE THAT MONEY TO FUND OUR SALARIES, IS ANYBODY GOING TO STRONGLY OBJECT TO THAT? OKAY.
I DIDN'T HEAR ANYBODY SAY ANYTHING.
I THINK WE OUGHT TO PUT IT IN THE BUILDING PROGRAM.
I'M REALLY NOT SURE WHAT THAT, UM, SO WE HAD SIX, WE HAD 16, $17 MILLION WORTH OF TOTAL PROJECTS DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE WERE PLANNING TO DO.
AND WE HAD 12 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS OF BOND MONEY LEFT.
OH, THIS WHAT I'VE GOT IS THE APPRENTICE SEASON AT NEGATIVE 2 MILLION, 362, THE FACILITIES BOND.
THIS IS WHAT WAS GIVEN OUT TO US LAST TIME WE DID.
AND THEN THAT DOESN'T EVEN INCLUDE THE, UH, IT'S GOT THE SALES OF REAL ESTATE REVENUE AND REAL ESTATE EXPENSES, YOU KNOW, SO, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE WAITING ON.
THOSE TWO THINGS WE'RE WAITING ON WITH THE BUILDING STUFF.
ONE OF THEM IS WE'RE WAITING ON THE SOLID NUMBERS ON THE COURTHOUSE, WHICH IS COMING UP ON THE, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THAT STUFF FOR THE MEETING ON THE NINTH.
THE NINTH WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THOSE SOLID NUMBERS ON THE COURTHOUSE BECAUSE WE WERE JUST USING A BUNCH OF, WELL, THE, TO BE THE NEW SONG WITH NUMBERS ON THE COURTHOUSE AND NOW Y'ALL CAN WRITE.
WELL, I WAS TOLD IT WAS ALL DONE IN ONE BIG.
IT WAS, WELL, I MEAN LIKE THE FOUNDATION CONTRACTOR, THE ELECTRICAL CONTRACTOR, THE PLUMBING CONTRACTOR, THEY BID THOSE TWO THINGS TOGETHER.
POINT BLANK ASKED IF, IF HE CAME IN UNDER BUDGET OR OVER BUDGET AND THEY SAY, WELL, IT'S NOT, WE GOTTA WAIT FOR ALL OF THE NUMBERS COMING IN.
SO W WE'RE WE'RE GOING, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, BECAUSE WE PUT ENOUGH CONTINGENCY IN THOSE TWO PROJECTS THAT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO THE LAST GUESTS THAT I GOT OUT OF RADON WAS ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS, BUT I DON'T TESTIMONY WE'LL KNOW THAT PRETTY SOON.
WE'LL KNOW THAT WE'LL KNOW THAT NEXT MONTH, FOR SURE.
BUT ANYWAY, SO, UM, BUT NOT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE FINISHED WITH THE JUSTICE CENTER UNTIL PROBABLY OCTOBER.
NO, THEY'LL BE FINISHED BEFORE THAT YESTERDAY.
AND HE SAID THEY WOULDN'T BE FINISHED WELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE DOING SOME PATCHING AND FIXING AND MAYBE NOT, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO BE MOVING IN IN OCTOBER.
SO IT'LL BE FINISHED BEFORE THEN.
SO, UM, I THINK, I THINK HE MIGHT BE BUILDING A LITTLE FLUFF IN THERE FOR HIMSELF.
I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GONNA WELL ANYWAY, SO WE'LL, I DON'T BELIEVE, BUT EVEN IF, EVEN IF THEY GET DOWN TO 90% OR 95% COMPLETE, THEY'RE GOING TO KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY THEY'RE SPENDING.
SO YES, MA'AM, IT'S ALSO ON THE AGENDA TOMORROW ABOUT THE, UM, COMMUNICATION TOWER AND UPGRADE, UH, LIKE 2.9 MILLION.
AND, UH, THEY'RE GONNA MAKE IT PAYABLE FOR 2022.
SO I CAN PAY SOME BEFORE SEPTEMBER, NOT ALL OF IT, UH, IN, TOWARD THE 23 AND 2024.
SO IT WILL BE SPREAD OVER A THREE-YEAR PERIOD, JUST SO JUST A REMINDER.
SO I DIDN'T HEAR ANYBODY SCREAMING ABOUT THAT, THAT THIRD PARAGRAPH THERE.
HOW MUCH FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS? HERE'S MY PROPOSAL.
MY PROPOSAL IS THAT WE, WHATEVER WE DO AS FAR AS MID RANGE, THAT, THAT DEAL THAT WHATEVER, WE, WE TREAT EVERYBODY THE SAME
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ELECTED OFFICIALS AND, AND ALL OF US, IF IT'S A, IF WE MOVE EVERYBODY TO THE MID RANGE, THEN EVERY ELECTED OFFICIALS AND EVERYBODY GETS MOVED TO THE MID RANGE.IF WE'RE GOING TO THAT MIDDLE POINT OR WHATEVER, THEN EVERYBODY THAT'S WHAT GETS, AND THAT'S GOOD BECAUSE REALLY, AND I GUESS IT'S KUDOS FOR THEM NOT MENTIONING US BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT GIVEN THE ELECTED OFFICIALS WERE RAISED.
WE HAD A LITTLE TROUBLE ABOUT THAT.
YOU KNOW, ONCE IN, ONCE IN AUGUST, WE GAVE, HAVE EVERYBODY AT 2%, WHAT THREE, FOUR YEARS AGO THAT THEY HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY RAISES AT ALL.
WELL, I MEAN, I THINK, BUT THE REASON I'M BRINGING THAT UP MIKE, IS THAT WE, WE GOTTA HAVE, I JUST WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW.
THEY ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE NOT GOTTEN, BUT THE 2% RISE IN THE LAST SIX YEARS.
SO IT'S, IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, YOU KNOW, SOME MIRACLE WE HADN'T GOT BACK BEHIND THE PHONE TO REMIND THEM OF IS WE'VE DONE IT FOR TWO REASONS, BASICALLY, NUMBER ONE, TO HELP LOWER THE TAX BURDEN AND NUMBER TWO TO HELP OUT OUR EMPLOYEES.
SO THE, UH, SO THAT THOSE, THAT LETTER, UH, HAS GOT TO BE SENT OUT ON AUGUST THE THIRD.
SO, UM, THAT IS COMING UP IN, UNLESS I HEAR SOME SCREAMING, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO DO THE ELECTED OFFICIALS, THE SAME METHOD THAT WE APPLY TO EVERYBODY ELSE.
UM, IS IT 5% IN ADDITION TO THAT, OR JUST THE MAINTENANCE? EVERYBODY GETS THE 5%, ALL THE CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES GET THE 5% AND ALL THE EMPLOYEES GET THE, INCLUDING THE ELECTEDS.
EVERYBODY GETS THAT INFLATIONARY COLA AND THE SAME TREATMENT ON MOVING TO THE MIDPOINT, MIDDLE OF THE MIDDLE.
NOW HERE'S ANOTHER, HERE'S ANOTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS WE TRY TO MAKE ALL, MAKE, TRY TO MAKE OUR ENDS MEET.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO GO TO THE DEPARTMENTS AND TELL THEM THAT WE WOULD LIKE, WE WE'VE FORECAST HOW MUCH THAT THEY'RE GOING TO SPEND THIS YEAR.
AND I, AND I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT THE TENDENCY SOMETIMES TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR IS TO TRY TO SPEND YOUR BUDGET.
I THINK WE SHOULD USE THAT FORECAST, THE NUMBER THAT THE, LIKE, IF, IF THEY FORECAST THAT THEY'RE GOING TO SPEND $10,000 ON, YOU KNOW, SUPPLIES AND MATERIALS AND ALL THAT, WE OUGHT TO ASK THEM TO MAKE THAT THEIR BUDGET FOR THIS COMING YEAR.
ARE WE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO NEED MORE THAN THAT? OF COURSE.
BUT THE AUDITOR AND THE, I MEAN, WE HAVE BEEN THE COMMISSIONERS RATHER.
IT HAD BEEN REALLY PRETTY EASY TO WORK WITH AS FAR AS MAKING BUDGET ADJUSTMENT FOR PEOPLE WHEN THEY NEED THEM.
AND I THINK IT'D GIVE PEOPLE A TARGET TO SHOOT FOR, AND WE PROBABLY NEED THE MONEY.
WOULD YOU SAY IT ONE MORE TIME? JUST SO I CAN MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
SO, SO, UH, WE FORECASTED, UH, KAREN GAVE US THIS FORECAST SHEET OF WHAT PEOPLE WERE EXPECTED TO SPEND THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR.
AND SO WHAT I WOULD TELL YOU, I'M NOT COMING TO YOUR ROAD EMBRACED PART, BUT LIKE ALL YOUR OFFICE EXPENSES AND ALL THAT STUFF, I WOULD, THIS WOULD TELL YOU WHATEVER THIS FORECAST NUMBER IS, UH, WORDS THIS JUNE 30TH DIVIDED BY NINE MULTIPLY TIMES 12 OR WHATEVER.
WE'RE GOING TO ASK YOU TO USE THAT AS YOUR BUDGET FOR MATERIALS AND SUPPLIES AND STUFF, NOT ASPHALT AND ALL THAT, BUT JUST LIKE OFFICE.
SO I'M JUST CONFUSED BECAUSE THIS IS, THIS YEAR IS ACTUAL SPENDING, VERSUS ARE YOU SAYING PROJECTED SPENDING, PROJECTED, PROJECTED SPENDING.
CAUSE THIS IS, THIS YEAR IS ACTUAL SPENDING PROJECTED EXPENDITURES IN 2022.
YOU SEE THAT NUMBER? THAT COLUMN.
BUT THAT'S THE NUMBER WE'RE TALKING ON IT.
I'M LOOKING ON YOUR AGENDA SHEET THAT YOU GAVE US.
OH, WELL, AND IT SAID THIS YEAR'S ACTUAL SPENDING THIS YEAR BEING 2022.
I'LL HAVE TO PUT THAT TOGETHER.
THAT WAS PREDICTED TOTAL EXPENDITURES, 20, 22.
WELL, HE'S TALKING ABOUT WHAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S ON HERE.
I DIDN'T LOOK, BUT THAT A PROJECTED EXPENSE WHATEVER'S IN THIS COLUMN CAM IS WHAT I'M SUGGESTING THAT WE ASKED THE DEPARTMENTS TO STICK.
THE ONLY, THE ONLY, UH, ITEM I JUST THROW OUT IS FUEL.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT AND THERE MAY BE SOMETHING ELSE THERE MAY BE.
I MEAN, WE MAY HAVE A DEPARTMENT THAT HAS SOME, SOMETHING THAT THEY BUY THAT IS GONE UP 50% OR THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE, AND THAT'S OKAY.
WE'LL TAKE THAT AS IT COMES, BUT WE'LL ASK THEM TO TARGET THAT.
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SAME THING, FOR EXAMPLE.I MEAN, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU JUST, IF YOU TELL US, I CAN'T DO THAT, I CAN DO THAT ON PAPER, BUT I CAN'T DO IT ON FOOD.
THEN YOU JUST TELL US AND WE'LL TRY TO MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT, BUT I DON'T HEAR ANY SCREAMING, I WOULD JUST SAY ON SOME OF THESE PAYROLLS, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FILL POSITIONS ON SOME OF THE DAYS.
AND WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT PAYROLL, JUDGE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT JUST, UM, YEAH, BUT THAT'S NOT PHARAOH.
AND THAT'S JUST EXPENDITURE THAT'S PAPERCLIPS IS WHAT HE'S SAYING.
THAT'S PAY-PER-CLICK BENEFITS ALONE OF YOUR ACCOUNT.
IS THAT BUDGET DIFFERENCE ON THAT CALCULATION, INCLUDING THAT TO THEM? NO.
CAUSE I'VE GOT A WHOLE WEEK TO BOOK YOU'VE GOTTEN TO THAT PAYROLL AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER.
SO THAT NUMBER DOESN'T INCLUDE THAT.
UM, SO THE LAST BOLD TYPE THING I HAVE THERE IS HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL TAX DOLLARS SHOULD WE COLLECT IN 23? UM, WE CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION YET BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DONE THE CALCULATIONS ON THE MID RANGE.
I MEAN, MOVING PEOPLE TO THE MID RANGE.
SO WE'LL HAVE TO TACKLE THAT TOMORROW.
UM, TOMORROW WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THE AUDITOR OR TOMORROW WE'RE HAVING LUNCH IN, UH, IF YOU WANT SOMETHING TO DRINK, NOT, I MEAN, NON NON-ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE, IF YOU WANT SOMETHING TO DRINK, YOU BRING IT WITH YOU TOMORROW BECAUSE WE'RE NOT DOING THAT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PIZZA.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LUNCH UPSTAIRS IN THE CONFERENCE ROOM IS THE PLAN.
I ACTUALLY HAVEN'T RESERVED IT YET, BUT MAYBE WE CAN GET THAT.
AND THEN WE'LL JUST RECESS AND GO UP THERE WHENEVER Y'ALL GET HUNGRY.
AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK DOWN HERE AND WE'LL STAY UNTIL WE CAN GIVE THE AUDITOR SOME TOTAL REVENUE AND TOTAL SPENDING NUMBERS.
AND UH, AND THEN SHE'S GOING TO BEGIN TO WORK HER MAGIC.
AND, UM, SHE'S GONNA, UH, WE'RE GONNA, SHE'S GONNA PLUG ALL THE NUMBERS IN, INTO THE DETAIL AND STUFF AND A COUPLE OF DAYS, AND ON THURSDAY, THE FOURTH, WE'RE GONNA POST THE DRAFT BUDGET.
THE OPERATIVE WORD, THERE IS DRAFT BUDGET.
WE HAVE OTHER THINGS TO, I MEAN, THERE'S GOING TO BE ADJUSTMENTS MADE FOR SURE, BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR STARTING POINT.
AUGUST EIGHT, THE TAX ASSESSOR HAS TO IS THE TAX ASSESSORS ASKING THAT THEY BE PREPARED TO, UH, DO THE TAX RATE CALCULATIONS ON AUGUST 8TH.
AGAIN, THAT WILL CHANGE BEFORE WE ADOPTED, BUT IT SHOULD BE PRETTY CLOSE.
I HAVE A, UH, SO STARTING AUGUST THE NINTH, I'M GOING TO ASK ANNA TO POST A BUDGET WORKSHOP MEETING EVERY DAY FROM MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY AT ONE 30.
WE'LL WE'LL MEET IF WE NEED THEM THAT WE DON'T, WE WON'T KAREN, HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE Y'ALL TO DO THAT? WELL, I HAVE TO GET WITH YOU IN A LITTLE BIT, I GUESS, ON THAT MID RANGE DEAL.
IT'LL BE A DRAFT WHERE YOU LEAVING.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? THEY MAY HAVE ANYTHING.
YOU GUYS HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY, GOOD TO GO.
I'M JUST WAITING ON YOUR MOTION.
MAKING SURE THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO SAY ANYTHING AGAIN.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.
SECOND, WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS AND A SECOND FROM WHAT'S YOUR NAME AGAIN FOR MR.
THOSE OPPOSED? NO MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.