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THE SPECIAL MEETING OF THE COFFIN COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT IS CALLED TO ORDER TODAY IS AUGUST THE 18TH.
AND WE ARE IN THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING ROOM IN THE COURTHOUSE.
[1. To Discuss the Fiscal Year 2022-2023 Budget.]
GENDERED TODAY IS A BUDGET DISCUSSION.UM, ON OLD LICK, THE AUDITOR HAS GOT SOME UPDATED STUFF TO PASS OUT.
I'M GOING TO PASS THIS OUT FIRST.
THIS IS ILLEGAL NOTICE IT'S GOING IN THE PAPER.
UH, WE'RE SENDING TO THE PAPER TOMORROW FOR MONDAY'S DEADLINE.
UH, THIS PUBLISHES THE INCREASE IN ELECTED OFFICIALS.
WHAT'S NOT ON, THIS IS THE LANGUAGE AT THE BOTTOM, CAUSE I DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER.
WE'LL HAVE THAT NUMBER TODAY FOR SURE.
UH, OF WHAT THE TOTAL PROPERTY TAX INCREASE INCREASES AND PUT THAT ON THE PUBLICATION
SO BEFORE WE GET INTO THE ARE Y'ALL WANNA GO AHEAD AND PASS THIS STUFF OUT NOW OR ARE YOU, WELL, THE ONLY OTHER THING I HAVE IS WHATEVER THE SHERIFF SAID, HE'S GOT TO GO AND TALK TO US ABOUT AN OVERSIGHT OR SOMETHING.
YOU SAID WE MISSED SOMETHING, IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH, WE BROUGHT IT UP AND WAS THE LAST THING, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT IT WAS APPROVED, BUT APPARENTLY TALKING WITH THE AUDITOR'S NOT IS WHEN I BROUGHT YOU THAT, UH, MR. KEITHLEY, THE SERGEANT OVER THE DIVISION THAT, UH, IS IMPROVING AND MOVING OUT HERE THAT HIS DUTIES ARE MOVING MORE THAN WE WAS GOING TO MOVE HIM TO A LIEUTENANT POSITION, WHICH IS $2,600.
AND MY LAST UNDERSTANDING WHEN I MET WITH COURT, IT WAS APPROVED, BUT APPARENTLY IT WAS NOT WHAT I THINK WITH EVERY DIVISION I'VE GOT, HAS GOT A LIEUTENANT OVER IT.
AND I THINK HE'S GOING TO STEP UP AND TAKE A LOT MORE AND MORE RESPONSIBILITY OVER THERE.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE HIM TO A LIEUTENANT, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR STATEMENTS ABOUT THAT? I THOUGHT WE HAD APPROVED IT TO THE CHILD.
AND THEN YOU GO AHEAD AND DO THAT.
I DON'T REMEMBER IT, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER.
I MEAN, I DIDN'T BRING IT BACK IN IT'S SO, SO I DON'T KNOW, BUT, UH, I DON'T THINK WE'VE PROVED IT.
WE WENT THROUGH EACH ONE LINE BY LINE EACH NEW THING.
AND JUST LIKE, WE UNFORTUNATELY HAD TO TELL THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY YESTERDAY, HER POSITION WASN'T APPROVED.
SO ON MY SHEET YESTERDAY WAS NOT APPROVED BY THE COURT.
WELL, THAT'S WHEN I FOUND OUT ABOUT IT.
CAUSE MY LAST UNDERSTANDING WHEN I WAS HERE, WE TALKED ABOUT IT.
I WAS IN GRANT THAT WE, IT WAS FAST.
SO, UM, I, I GUESS IF WE JUST, I DON'T, UH, I DON'T REALLY REMEMBER THE DISCUSSION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, BUT MAYBE WE ALL JUST GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE TAPE AND SEE WHAT IT SAYS.
IF WE APPROVED IT, WE'LL DO IT.
I SAY, I ASKED YOU NOW IF Y'ALL ARE PROVEN OR NOT, I DON'T, I DON'T CARE EITHER WAY.
UM, BASED ON WHAT WE'VE BEEN THROUGH AND I, AND I'VE HAD, UH, BASED, I MEAN, IF WE PROVED IT, THEN I SAY WE, IF THE RECORD SHOWS THAT WE APPROVED IT, THEN WE WILL STICK WITH THAT.
BUT I'M JUST TELLING YOU FROM WHAT I HAVE HAD A NUMBER OF CONVERSATIONS WITH DEPARTMENT HEADS AND IF WANTING TO MAKE CHANGES IN THEIR STRUCTURE AND I'VE TOLD THEM ALL THAT THEY NEED TO WAIT UNTIL WE DO ANOTHER WAGE AND CLASSIFICATION STUDY AGREE.
SO I WILL, I'LL GET SOMEBODY TO REVIEW THAT TAPE AND SEE WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S WHAT WE DECIDED.
AND IF WE DID WE'LL STICK WITH IT.
WE'RE READY THEN KAREN, FOR WHATEVER YOU GOT THERE.
AH, MAN, THERE IT IS THAT SAME THING.
I'M GLAD THEY'RE PUTTING DATES ON IT NOW.
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OKAY.IF YOU FLIP OVER TO THE FIRST PAGE, WHICH IS REALLY PAGE THREE OF THE BUDGET DOCUMENT, THESE ARE THE TAX RIGHTS THAT WERE GIVEN AND SENT TO ME THROUGH THE TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR.
AND THAT'S THE TAX RIGHTS FOR GENERAL W M AND O ROAD AND BRIDGE AND ON S AND THAT'S THE REVENUE, THE DEBT, RIGHT? SO I HAD ADJUSTED THE BUDGET TO REFLECT THAT AND IT'S BALANCED.
AND THAT'S GOT EVERYBODY THAT Y'ALL SAID THAT NEEDED TO BE AT MIDPOINT, THE 5,000, THE 5% YOU'VE GOT ALL THAT.
I HAD HIM PUT REVISED AS OF THIS STATE, YOU WOULD KNOW THIS IS JUST THE LATEST ONE BECAUSE WE'VE HANDED OUT SO MANY NEURONS, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? SO THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, WHICH ONE IS THE LIGHTEST ONE? UH, KAREN, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT INS.
SO WHEN WE DID THESE EARLY ON, WHEN WE, AND I'LL COME OVER THERE AND SHOW IT TO YOU, BUT THE, THE DEBT RATE, WHICH YOU'VE BEEN TOTALLY IN CHARGE OF CALCULATING THAT STUFF, YOU HAD ONE OF THE OPTIONS FOR THE DEBT RATE ON THIS EXAMPLE TO BE WAS 0.0 5, 9, 9.
BUT ONCE THE TAX ASSESSOR DID HER CALCULATIONS, I HAD HER NUMBER WRONG AND WE HAD TO CORRECT IT.
THAT IS THE MINIMUM THAT WE HAVE TO COLLECT IN ORDER TO MAKE OUR DEBT PAYMENTS.
BECAUSE OF THE RESERVE I HAVE WELL, OF COURSE I JUST SAW THIS, SO Y'ALL, I NEED A SECOND HERE TO LOOK AT IT.
SO WHAT THIS SHOWS, IF YOU DO THE MATH BASED ON LAST YEAR'S TAX LEVY, THAT I'D APPRECIATE IF YOU MAKE A NOTE OF THIS, OR IF YOU, UNLESS YOU CAN JUST REMEMBER, UH, LAST YEAR OUR GENERAL FUND TAX LEVY WAS 44 MILLION, $100,000.
THIS TAX RATE, OR THIS BUDGET SHOWS A $54 MILLION, THAT'S A 22.9% INCREASE IN TAXES.
THE ROAD AND BRIDGE RATE LAST WAS 11.5 MILLION.
UM, I THINK EVERYBODY HERE KNOWS HOW I FEEL ABOUT THOSE, THAT RATE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M REALLY CONFUSED ABOUT AS I'VE HEARD SEVERAL PEOPLE SAY DURING THESE CONVERSATIONS THAT THIS, WHEN WE WERE AT 21 AND A HALF PERCENT INCREASE LAST WEEK, LAST MEETING PEOPLE SAID, NO, THIS IS NOT A 21 AND A HALF PERCENT INCREASE IN PROPERTY TAXES AND COUNTY PROPERTY, TEXAS, BUT IT IS 54 MILLION.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S A, THAT'S A $10 MILLION INCREASE ON 44 MILLION.
THAT'S YOU KNOW, YOU GET, YOU GOT A CALCULATOR THAT'S 22.9% INCREASE.
SO, UM, UH, I, UH, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT I'VE CHANGED ANY MINDS UP HERE ABOUT THAT,
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BUT I THINK THAT'S UNBELIEVABLE.SO WE'VE GOT AN EXTRA 2 MILLION TO BUILD ROADS WITH WHAT'S THE ROAD AND BRIDGE FUND.
THEN WE SPLIT UP THE WAY WE SPLIT IT UP.
AND THEN THE TAX RATE WENT DOWN 0.0 4, 4, 9 0 9.
DID YOU FIGURE THAT RIGHT? UM, I'M NOT LOOKING AT, I'M LOOKING AT THE TAX DOLLAR QUESTIONS.
DID YOU FIGURE THAT YOU DID? I THINK IT CAME UP TO HER TAX RATES WAS REDUCED 0.0 4 4 9 0 9.
UM, SO WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION BEFORE I THINK USE, I THINK CALLING OUT THAT WE'VE, YOU KNOW, FOR US TO TELL PEOPLE WE'VE LOWERED YOUR TAX RATE.
WELL, WE'VE INCREASED YOUR TAXES IS WHAT WE'VE DONE OR WHAT WE'RE, WHAT THIS IS SHOWING.
SO, UM, UM, IF WE, IF WE DOUBLED, IF WE DOUBLED OUR, UH, UNDER THIS LOGIC THAT Y'ALL, THAT'S BEING USED HERE, THAT WE JUST KEEP OUR TAX RATES THE SAME, OR WE REDUCE IT JUST A LITTLE BIT.
IF NEXT YEAR ARE OUR APPRAISED VALUES WENT FROM 17 BILLION TO 50 BILLION.
WE JUST KEEP OUR TAX RATES THE SAME AND, AND INCREASE OUR TAX THAT WE COLLECT FROM PEOPLE BY FOUR OR FIVE TIMES.
UH, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE, THAT'S KIND OF THE LOGIC THERE.
JUDGE, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY IS DRIVING THE PRINCIPALLY, THE DRIVER OF THIS INCREASE IN TAXES? WELL, OF COURSE, 80 SOME 80% OR 85% OF THE EXPENSES THAT WE HAVE OR WAGES, WAGES, AND WAGES ON ALL THE BENEFITS AND STUFF ASSOCIATED WITH WAGES.
AND I JUST LIKE TO DRAW OFFICIAL NOTICE TOO, TO YOUR LEGAL NOTICE THAT YOU PASSED OUT IS WHAT'S GOING TO BE PUBLISHED.
UH, YEAH, THE DEADLINE IS WE'RE GOING TO GIVE IT TO THE PAPER TOMORROW CAUSE WE DON'T WAIT.
THE DEADLINE IS MONDAY AND CHRISTINA ONLY PUBLISHED ONCE A WEEK.
WE DON'T WANT TO WAIT UNTIL MONDAY.
SO I JUST LIKE TO TAKE OFFICIAL NOTICE THAT, UH, THAT AS PART OF THIS 22% INCREASE, THREE COMMISSIONER SALARIES ARE GOING TO INCREASE BY $18,000 IN ONE YEAR.
UH, THE COUNTY CLERK'S SALARY IS GOING TO INCREASE BY $16,000 IN ONE YEAR.
THE COUNTY COURT AT LAW SALARY IS GOING TO INCREASE BY $14,000 IN ONE YEAR.
THE DISTRICT CLERK'S SALARY IS GOING TO INCREASE BY $16,000.
IN ONE YEAR, JUSTICE OF THE PEACE SALARY IS GOING TO INCREASE BY $10,000.
IN ONE YEAR, THE TREASURER SALARY IS GOING TO INCREASE BY $16,000 IN ONE YEAR.
AND THE TAX ASSESSOR'S SALARY IS GOING TO INCREASE BY 16,000 MORE, ALMOST 20,000.
THE TAX ASSESSOR'S SALARY IS GOING TO INCREASE BY ALMOST 20,000 IN ONE YEAR.
SO I, I CERTAINLY, UH, AS I'VE SAID SEVERAL TIMES, I CERTAINLY BELIEVE THAT EMPLOYEES NEED TO BE COMPENSATED, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN A STEPPED AND REASONABLE AND SUPPORTABLE AND SUSTAINABLE FASHION.
AND THESE ARE JUST THE ELECTED OFFICIALS.
THESE ARE JUST THE ELECTED OFFICIALS.
THERE ARE MASSIVE SALARY RAISES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED AND APPARENTLY ABOUT TO BE APPROVED ACROSS THE COUNTY.
AND THAT IS 80% OF THIS NEW $10 MILLION.
AND IT IS IN A TIME WHEN PROPERTY APPRAISALS IN THIS COUNTY ARE UP 100 TO 200% AND INFLATION IS UP AND NO ONE IN THIS COUNTY, TYPICALLY OF OUR CONSTITUENTS OF THE CITIZENS THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT.
NONE OF THOSE PEOPLE OR VERY, VERY FEW ARE GOING TO SEE 10, 12, 13, AND 18 AND $20,000 RAISES IN THEIR SALARIES.
THIS YEAR, WE, AS A GOVERNMENT ARE ASKING, UH, POWER ARE, AS A COUNTRY ARE REQUIRING OUR CITIZENS TO TIGHTEN THEIR BELTS AND WE ARE NOT DOING THAT.
AND EVERY OTHER ENTITY IS GOING TO BE RAISING TAXES AS WELL.
AND I STILL WILL RELATE THAT $4 MILLION OF THIS, OUR UNSPENT TAXPAYER DOLLARS THAT SHOULD BE RETURNED TO THEM AND NOT REDIRECTED TO INCREASE THESE MASSIVE SALARIES.
I STILL PROPOSE, AS I DID LAST TIME, A STEP RAISE FOR EMPLOYEES, I READ OFF THE SPECIFICS THAT'S IN THE RECORD, I'LL BE GLAD TO SHARE IT AGAIN.
A STEP RAISE OF 10, SEVEN, AND 4% BASED ON CURRENT SALARIES, THOSE ARE REASONABLE AND SUSTAINABLE RAISES.
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OF MONEY AND MIGHT ALLOW US TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT ADDITIONAL TARGETED POSITIONS THAT MANY OF OUR OFFICIALS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS SAY ARE CRITICAL.SO I WOULD URGE THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT NOT TO PROCEED WITH THIS BUDGET AND TO LOWER THE TAX RATE AS, AS MUCH AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE AND TO REJECT THESE MASSIVE RAISES.
IS THERE ANYONE THAT WANTS TO REVISIT THIS OR DO YOU WANT US TO CAUSE WE'LL COME BACK ON.
UH, AND WE HAVE OUR BUDGET HEARING AND UH, WE HAVE IT, WE'LL HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA FOR DECEMBER, SEPTEMBER THE SIXTH TO THE APPROVE, THE TAX RATE TO SUPPORT THIS, THIS TECH, THE TAX LEVY.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? OKAY.
KAREN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO, WE NEED TO CLEAN UP THIS MEETING.
I DO HAVE SOME STUFF, UM, IT'S MANNER, BUT I WANTED TO ASK FOR CLARIFICATION SO I DON'T GET ANYBODY CONFUSED.
UM, LET ME GET TO THE PAGE NUMBER AND I'LL CALL IT OUT TO YOU.
I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO LOOK AT PAGE 13 OF THIS BUDGET.
I'M THERE BECAUSE OF THE CURRENT REVENUES I WENT BACK THROUGH AND EXTRAPOLATED AND GOT SOME NEW NUMBERS.
AND BECAUSE I DID INSTEAD OF 4.2 MILLION OF FUND BALANCE, I'M ONLY USING 2.6.
THAT'S NOT THE DEAL THAT WE MADE.
SO THAT'S NOT THE DEAL THAT WE MADE.
WE WERE GOING TO USE $4.2 MILLION FROM UNSPENT TAX REVENUE THIS YEAR TO OFFSET SOME OF THE INCREASES, WHICH IS PROBABLY ONE REASON IS THAT THAT NUMBER HAS GONE FROM 21 AND A HALF PERCENT TO 22.9%.
I WOULD ASK YOU TO GO BACK AND PUT THAT 4 MILLION PLUS WHATEVER THAT WAS AND PUT THAT BACK TO OFFSET THIS INCREASE IN LOWER THE TAX AMOUNT.
THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY HERE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF COMMISSIONER HUNT, EVERYBODY ELSE HERE SAID TO DO THAT, AM I CORRECT? YEAH.
I WANT IT TO GO TO THE BUILDING PROGRAM.
BUT, BUT EVERYBODY ELSE HERE, THAT'S WHAT WE THAT'S.
WE DECIDED IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T SAY NO, THEN OTHER THAN COMMISSIONER, HON, WE WERE GOING TO USE THE MONEY THAT WE DIDN'T SPEND IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET TO HELP IN COMMISSIONER KATE'S I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE ARE GIVING IT BACK TO THE TAXPAYERS.
UM, SO, UH, I WOULD LIKE THE NEXT TIME WE SEE THESE NUMBERS, I WOULD LIKE FOR THAT TO BE 4.2, LIKE IT WAS BEFORE, WELL, I WILL SAY THIS, CAUSE I THINK THERE WAS TWO DIFFERENT NUMBERS AT TWO DIFFERENT TIMES.
ONE WAS APPROXIMATELY FOUR BECAUSE OUR BUDGET'S NOT FINISHED UP YET.
WE DON'T KNOW THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT'S GONNA BE LEFT OVER.
AND THERE WAS ANOTHER DEAL ABOUT THREE AND A HALF.
IT WAS 3.2 WAS, IT WAS THE, THERE WAS THE, THE REMAINDER OF THAT FOUR OR 4.2 WAS THE AMOUNT THAT WE COLLECTED IN TAXES MORE THAN WHAT WE HAD.
BUT JUST FROM THAT NUMBER WAS IN THE RANGE OF $4 MILLION.
NO, BUT YEAH, BUT BECAUSE I WANTED YOU TO GO TO THE BOND BUILDING PROGRAM, SO, UH, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE NUMBER WAS.
SO, UM, I'M GOING TO ASK THE AUDITOR TO PUT THAT BACK IN AT LEAST MAYBE GET THAT CLOSER TO, DOWN TO WHERE WE WERE BEFORE.
UM, SO WHERE DO I PUT THE DIFFERENCE? CAUSE THE BA THE GENERAL FUND IS NOT GOING TO BALANCE, BUT IN CONTINGENCY, UH, I, I SUPPOSE, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, ONE OF THE THINGS, WHEN YOU, IF I ASKED YOU GUYS THE OTHER DAY, AND OF COURSE WE JUST GOT THESE NUMBERS, BUT IF YOU'LL LOOK AT, I THINK IF YOU'LL GO THROUGH YOUR PAGE BY PAGE, WHAT YOU'LL FIND OUT IS WE HAVE A LOT OF CONTINGENCY BUILT INTO ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENT BUDGETS BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE BUDGETED AS HAS BEEN THE PRACTICE HERE, MUCH MORE THAN WHAT THEY HAD SPENT IN THE PREVIOUS YEARS.
SO THAT'LL ALL FLOW TO CONTINGENT.
I MEAN, THAT WILL OFFLOAD THE FUND BALANCE NEXT YEAR, LIKE IT HAS BEFORE.
WELL, WELL, I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO STICK WITH GIVING THIS MONEY BACK TO THE TAXPAYERS IN THE FORM OF TRYING TO LOWER THE TAX
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RATE, THAT THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY OF THAT MONEY THAT GOES INTO CONTINGENCY, IT SHOULD ALL BE EATEN UP BY AN ADJUSTMENT BY AN OFFSETTING.I DON'T, MAYBE I DIDN'T SAY THAT.
BUT THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING FOR.
NONE OF THAT 4, 4, 4 0.2, NONE OF THAT SHOULD FLOW INTO THE SHIFT FLOW INTO FUND BALANCE.
IT SHOULD FLOW BACK INTO THE BUDGET TO SUPPORT LOWERING THE TAX RATE BY A PERCENT OR SOMETHING, OR 0.9% OR WHATEVER IT WILL ACCOMPLISH.
AND YOU SAY, KAREN, I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO SET IN A TAX RATE, BUT I'M PUTTING THE POSITION, CALCULATE IT TO GET THE REVENUES.
UM, BUT IF WE PUT ALL OF IT IN THERE, DO WE HAVE A WAY TO PAY PAYROLL IN THE FIRST MONTH WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A CONTINGENCY TO PULL FROM EITHER WE, AT SOME POINT WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU HAVE NO, WE DIDN'T.
WE TOOK IT OUT THE JUDGE, YES.
THAT THIS DID NOT HAVE A CONTINGENCY IN IT.
YOU'D NOTICED THAT ABOUT A WEEK OR SO AGO.
NO, I CAME UP WITH THE 3.2 MILLION.
THE JUDGE USED THAT I HAD $740,000 IN CONTINGENCY.
PLUS THE 69 THAT I USE FOR FUND BALANCE MADE US THE FOUR POINT, WHATEVER IT WAS.
AND THAT'S WHAT I USED AT THIS BUDGET BEFORE THIS AND REVISION TWO.
I HAD TO APPROVE THE RATES FOR THE TAX ASSESSOR.
AND WHEN SHE SENT ME THE RIGHTS, I USED IT TO CALCULATE WHAT GOES IN THE THREE FUNDS.
AND THAT'S HOW I CAME UP WITH THE MONEY.
AND I FIGURED IF I DON'T NEED 4 MILLION FUND BALANCE, I'M GOING TO USE THE TWO TO BALANCE THE BUDGET.
THAT WAS MY FAULT JUST FOR JUST TRYING TO GET IT LOWER.
SO WE'RE NOT USING ALL OF IT, BUT I'LL DO WHATEVER I GOTTA DO.
I DON'T KNOW THAT I SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH WHAT, WITH WHAT SHE DID SAID WHAT? I MEAN, WE ARE USING MOST OF THE FUND BALANCE, BUT AT SOME POINT YOU SOME POINT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF CARRY OVER MONEY.
THIS, IF WE DON'T GET THE BILLS OUT SOME, SOME YEARS WE DON'T GET THE BACKS.
THEY HAD TO BORROW MONEY BEFORE, JUST TO HAVE YOU WATCHED THE TRAILER, HAVE YOU READ, LISTEN TO CHUCK ON THE TREASURER'S REPORT.
WELL, THAT'S CAUSED ME A BOND WHEN THEY SAY ON THERE, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT TONS OF CASH IN THE BANK.
SO ANYWAY, UM, WHAT I'M ASKING IS WILL WE GO BACK TO USING THAT MONEY THAT WE DIDN'T SPEND THIS YEAR, PLUS THE MONEY THAT WE COLLECTED IN TAXES MORE THAN WHAT WE BUDGETED.
THAT'S WHAT WE DECIDED BEFORE.
AND OTHER COMMISSIONER DIDN'T WANT HER TO DO THAT, BUT EVERY, I WENT AROUND THE ROOM.
AND I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO AT LEAST AS ONE TIME, STICK WITH WHAT WE ALL AGREED TO.
DO ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? RICHARDS? YES.
UM, I WANTED TO BRING UP ONE ISSUE THAT JUDGE WILEY ASKED ME TO BRING UP ON HER BEHALF.
ON THE SECOND, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE FIXING TO DO SO AND, AND I'VE GOT IT TO HAND OUT TO ASK THEM TO LOOK AT IT.
AND THEN I'LL LET YOU EXPLAIN IT.
HOW'S THAT I DON'T MEAN TO BE RUDE AND INTERRUPT, BUT I HAD IT ON HER, PUT IT ON MY PLATE TO DO THIS WAS SOME STUFF THAT CAME FROM THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY BECAUSE THEY HAVE SOME PEOPLE MISCLASSIFY.
I'M NOT, I'M NOT RECLASSIFYING ANYBODY.
CAUSE I DO NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT.
SO BRANDY'S GOT SOME STUFF HIGHLIGHTED AT THE BOTTOM AND SHE CAN EXPLAIN IT BETTER THAN I HAVE BECAUSE I WAS IN TOWER TECHNOLOGY TRAINING AND PROOFING THE BUDGET.
AND THEN MS. KAREN CHIN TAKE IT AWAY.
SO REALLY THEY'RE JUST EVERYTHING.
THE REQUESTS FOR THE CHANGES IN THE PAY GRADES.
UM, FOR THE ADA MISDEMEANOR, SHE BELIEVES THAT IT NEEDS TO GO HOME 15 TO ONE 14.
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UM, AND THEN, UH, THREE POSITION OR ONE POSITION ON NUMBER FOUR.ONE POSITION NEEDS TO GO FROM A 1 0 5 TO A 1 0 7 AND THEN TWO POSITIONS NEED TO GO FROM A 1 0 8 TO A 1 0 7.
UM, AND THEN THE RECEPTIONIST FROM A 1 0 2 TO 1 0 5 AND THEN WE ALSO NEED A BUDGET, $2,000 CERTIFICATE PAY IN CASE SHE COMPLETES HER PARALEGAL CERTIFICATION.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT? I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT TOPIC, BUT I'LL GO, I'LL GO AHEAD AND ASK AT THIS TIME, UM, ON THE CHILD ABUSE PROSECUTOR THAT JUDGE WILEY ASKED FOR SINCE, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE COURT IS NOT GOING TO GIVE THAT POSITION.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S THE DECISION THAT WE MADE? YES.
SO WHAT JUDGE WILEY IS ASKING FOR IS TO CREATE A MONEY LINE ITEM FOR THAT POSITION TO CREATE THE POSITION IT'S NOT FUNDED, BUT JUST A MONEY LINE ITEM SO THAT SHE HAS A HOLDING LINE ITEM FOR THAT POSITION IN THE BUDGET.
AND I BELIEVE THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT BELIEVE THAT THEY MAY BE ABLE TO HELP HER GET MONEY FOR THAT POSITION.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT MONEY FROM OUTSIDE OR SOMETHING.
I THINK IT'S THERE, IT'S NOT TAX MONEY, NOT IS IT COMING FROM OUTSIDE THE COUNTY OR IS IT COMING FROM OTHER FUNDS AND I'M NOT CERTAIN AT THIS POINT.
UM, I GUESS IT CAME FROM, UH, SOME OF HER, UH, UH, WHAT HE CALLED IT COUNT, UM, WHERE SHE COMPLICATED TO PUT A REVENUE LINE ITEM AND TO PLACE.
ALSO, JUDGE RICHARD, COME TO YOU ABOUT THE MENTAL HEALTH PERSON.
I'VE GOT A FULL BUDGET IN THERE WITH A SALARY.
AND SHE CALLED ME LAST NIGHT TO TELL ME THAT THEY WERE WORKING OUT OF A MUTUAL OF UNDER UNDERSTANDING, UH, AGREEMENT WITH, UM, THE BEHAVIORAL NORTH, TEXAS BEHAVIORAL AUTHORITY.
THEY'RE GOING TO FUND A POSITION, BUT NOT PROVIDE THE OPERATING STUFF LIKE, YOU KNOW, OFFICE SUPPLIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO I'M GOING TO CHANGE THAT BUDGET TO A HUNDRED DOLLARS.
UM, JUST THE LINE ITEM FOR SALARY IN CASE THEY DON'T.
AND WE GOT TO COME BACK AND I WAS GOING TO SLIDE THE REST OF IT, MAYBE 60, 70,000 INTO CONTINGENCY JUST TO KEEP IT THERE.
I THINK WE, WE NEED TO SEE, UM, I THINK IT'D BE REALLY PRUDENT FOR US TO SEE WHATEVER THEY'RE PROPOSING TO.
DO YOU KNOW, THE WRITING SOMEHOW? WELL, SHE WAS RIDING THE RIDING IT, THIS IS FROM KNIPPA RIGHT.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, YES, YES.
SHE MET WITH THEM AND TALKED TO THEM.
SHE CALLED THEM THE PERSON'S NAME.
I DON'T REMEMBER CAUSE I WAS TIRED AND STRESSED.
AND UH, SHE SAID THAT SHE WAS GOING DOWN TO MEET WITH JUDGE RICH YESTERDAY AFTERNOON AND MAKE SURE, BECAUSE HE HAD ALREADY HAD SOME BODY IN MIND OR HAD GOTTEN READY TO INTERVIEW PEOPLE OR WHATEVER OUR JOB DESCRIPTION, MAYBE I DON'T KNOW.
AND THAT SHE WANTED TO MEET WITH HIM TO MAKE SURE WHAT SHE WAS DOING WAS GOING TO BE OKAY.
BUT SHE WANTED ME TO KNOW, SO I COULD HAVE A PLACEHOLDER, I CAN LEAVE THE MONEY THERE TOO.
WE'RE ACTUALLY LITERALLY SURE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PAY THAT SALARY AND BENEFITS.
AND ALL WE DO IS, IS PAY FOR THE OPERATING STUFF.
AND THEN IF, IF THEY DO PAY FOR IT, I CAN MOVE IT TO CONTINGENCY JUDGE.
AND I WAS A PART OF THAT MEETING AND BASICALLY WHAT IT IS IT'S WHERE KNIPPA WILL PROVIDE, I MEAN, NET, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL WORK WITH THE COUNTY TO CHOOSE THAT PERSON AND THE NET, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL PROVIDE FOR THAT PERSON FOR THE NEXT, UM, YOU KNOW, BUDGET YEAR.
AND SO WE'RE WORKING ON A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING ON THAT AND I THINK IT WILL BE BROUGHT THIS TUESDAY.
IF I, IF I COULD JUST SAY THIS ABOUT THAT FIRST.
I DON'T, I THINK IT SHOULD BE MORE THAN A ONE-YEAR AGREEMENT BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD A PRETTY GOOD HISTORY IN THE COUNTY OF HIRING PEOPLE AND PUTTING THEM ON WITH GRANTS AND THEN WE DON'T EVER LET ANYBODY GO.
AND SO THEN WE'RE, THEN WE DON'T HAVE ANY CHOICE, BUT TO FUND THE POSITION AND THE NEXT, THE NEXT YEAR.
SO IF NIP WAS WILLING TO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THAT, I THINK IT SHOULD BE MORE THAN ONE YEAR.
THE AGREEMENT SHOULD BE FOR LONGER THAN A YEAR.
SO THAT THE COUNTY NEXT YEAR, ISN'T GOING TO HAVE TO, IF IT'S A GOOD IDEA THIS YEAR, THEN IT SHOULD BE A GOOD IDEA.
TWO YEARS FROM NOW, SHE HAD BEEN THERE FOR FIVE YEARS, BUT WHAT WE, WE TOLD JUDGE RICH AND WE HAD FUND THEM THIS YEAR.
SO I THINK PUTTING IT OUT THERE,
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I'M SORRY, WHAT? YEAH.THEM WORKING HERE, BUT BEING SOMEBODY ELSE'S EMPLOYEE, BECAUSE I KNOW BEFORE, WHEN THEY HAD PROMISED, IF WE PAID THEM THE 200 AND SOMETHING THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR THROUGH THE CONTRACTOR AGREEMENT, WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TWO PEOPLE HERE TO HELP WITH MENTAL HEALTH AND STUFF AND LOOK AT US WELL.
UM, YEAH, IT'S NOT I'M MY BUSINESS.
I'LL ASK, I'LL ASK MY QUIET COMMISSIONERS TO TELL ME I DON'T HAVE AN OBJECTION TO PUTTING THAT PROSECUTOR POSITION AS A A HUNDRED DOLLAR ITEM IN THE BUDGET, AS LONG AS THERE'S NO MISUNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S NO FUNDING FOR THAT POSITION, UNLESS IT COMES FROM SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF THE GENERAL FUND.
AND THAT'S ALL JUDGE WILEY'S ASKING FOR IS WE JUST NEED THAT.
AND IS EVERYBODY CLEAR ON THAT? IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING? WE'RE CLEAR.
WELL, I MEAN, COULDN'T YOU GO BACK AND ADD THAT POSITION LATER.
WHY, WHY DO YOU EVEN NEED TO DO THAT? YOU HAVE TO HAVE, BECAUSE WHAT IT SEEMS TO ME IS THAT IT'S JUST PREPPING TO MAKE SURE THAT SOMEHOW THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, I SAY IT HAS TO BE IN, YOU CAN'T ADD A POSITION MID-YEAR IS THAT CORRECT? MY, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS WE HAD TO HAVE LIKE A PLACEHOLDER AND THAT WHITE, WE DIDN'T HAVE TO HAVE AN EMERGENCY.
IT MEANT WE'D HAVE TO HAVE EMERGENCY AMENDMENT WITHIN THE BUDGET TO ADD A LINE ITEM.
AND THEY'RE JUST ASKING TO HAVE THE LINE ITEM SO THEY CAN HAVE THE POSITION THAT YOU'RE JUST TAKING A BABY STEP TOWARDS THE DECISION THAT YOU ALREADY MADE, WHICH IS YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT POSITION.
SO YOU'RE JUST TAKING A STEP REALLY TOWARDS THAT POSITION.
HOW MANY OF THE DAY, HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE 150 CASES TARA COUNTY AND EVERYBODY ELSE WAS ON THE NEWS OVER THE SAME PROBLEM.
IF HE MIGHT NOT GET THE POSITION THAT I'M TALKING TO ALREADY SPENDING SO MUCH MONEY THAT YOU CAN'T AFFORD IT, WE CAN FORWARD IT.
THEY, UH, THEY SO SAYS I YOU'RE.
I DON'T MIND WHAT I'M SAYING IS I'M AGREEING IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD CHOICE.
IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO FUND THAT POSITION BECAUSE NEXT YEAR, I'M SURE IT'LL BE FUNDED.
YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T KEEP HAVING PEOPLE STACK UP, STACK UP ARE YOU WILL BE IN THE POSITION THAT TARRANT COUNTY AND A COUPLE OF OTHER COUNTIES RATES LET'S FOCUS ON THAT.
JUST THIS ISSUE, WHETHER OR NOT THAT THE CONFIDENCE THAT IF WE PUT THAT LINE ITEM IN THERE, THAT THAT'S NOT GOING TO SHOW UP IN THE BUDGET SOMEWHERE, UNLESS THE MONEY IS COMING FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE.
THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE GENERAL.
SHE'S ASKING ABOUT THAT AND UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT, UH, SO NOT A TRANSFER FROM SOME OTHER GENERAL FUND BUDGET OUTSIDE THE GENERAL, OUTSIDE THE GENERAL FUND, THE REGULAR FOREVER, FOREVER, OR JUST FOR THE ONE YEAR, JUST TALKING ABOUT ONE YEAR.
WE ONLY DO THINGS A YEAR AT A TIME.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR JUDGE WILEY IS, AND THEN IT'S JUST UP TO YOU WHETHER YOU WANT TO DO IT FOR THE YEAR, BUT THE AGREEMENT KAREN CAN BE FOR MORE THAN A YEAR.
JUDGE, A CORSET CAN THIS COUNTY ENTERS INTO ALL KINDS OF CONTRACTS FOR MORE THAN A YEAR, BUT THIS IS A ONE-YEAR AGREEMENT.
THIS CON, THIS COUNTY ENTERS INTO CONTRACTS WHERE IT'S AUTOMATICALLY RENEWABLE FOR A YEAR AND THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETS EVERY WEEK.
SO IF THEY DON'T WANT TO RENEW IT OR HAVE IT NEXT YEAR, THAT'S A DECISION THE COURT CAN MAKE WHERE IT WAS JUST WE'RE ASKING.
THE ASK IS FOR ONE YEAR, AND IT'S JUST ASKING FOR A LINE ITEM TO HOLD THE PLACE.
IF Y'ALL JUST LISTENED TO ME, I'LL HAVE A REVENUE LINE ITEM COMING FROM THE DA FOR OTHER SOURCES OF A HUNDRED DOLLARS.
I'LL HAVE A LINE ITEM, THAT'LL SAY OUTSIDE SOURCE FOR AN ADA OF A HUNDRED DOLLARS.
AND IF THAT SOURCE RESOURCES DOESN'T COME IN, I'M NOT APPROVING THAT POSITION WHEN THEY'VE SENT IT TO ME, JUST SIGN THAT I GOT THE MONEY TO PAY THAT PERSON, BUT I CAN PROMISE YOU THAT MUCH, BUT THAT'S UP TO Y'ALL HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DO IT SOUNDS GOOD.
I HAVE TO SIGN ALL OF THEM ANYWAY.
OKAY, WELL, UM, I'LL ACQUIESCE TO THAT.
I, I, I THINK IT'S COMPLETELY UNFAIR FOR US AFTER EVERYTHING WE'VE BEEN TELLING DEPARTMENT HEADS.
I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER ANY PAY GRADE CHANGES.
UM, FOR ANY DEPARTMENT WE WE'VE ALREADY, WE'VE, THERE'S PROBABLY A DOZEN DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN TOLD THAT WE ARE NOT DOING
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THAT UNTIL THERE IS A WAGE AND CLASSIFICATION STUDY DONE IN THE COUNTY TO REFRESH THAT STUDY.I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THIS.
I SAID JUST GOOD FOR THE PLACE HOME.
IS THERE ANYBODY WHO DISAGREES I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED.
ARE YOU REFERRING TO IN THE ONE-YEAR AGREEMENT? I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT THIS NYMPHA POSITION.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT AN ADA POSITION OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THIS? NYMPHA THE, KNIPPA BEING A ONE.
AND THE ONLY, THE ONLY THING I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO BE WRONG ON THIS, KAREN IS I DON'T THAT KNIPPA THAT PERSON, THAT PERSON THAT'S, THAT NYMPHOS SAY IS THEY'RE GOING TO SUPPORT IS NOT GOING TO BE A KAUFMAN COUNTY EMPLOYEE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THIS, BUT I DOUBT VERY SERIOUSLY THAT NIPPO CAN PAY THE SALARY FOR SOMEBODY.
CAUSE YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT ALL SORTS OF BINDINGS WITH ALL THE STATE FUNDING AND STUFF THEY HAVE, I DOUBT THAT THEY CAN PAY US FOR MAKING PAY AN ACCOUNTING EMPLOYEE.
SO I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR BECAUSE COMMISSIONER KATES, WHAT YOU SAID MAKES ME REALIZE THAT THERE MAY BE SOME MISUNDERSTANDING.
SO THERE'S REALLY THREE THINGS THAT ARE BEING ADDRESSED.
THE FIRST IS THE CHILD ABUSE PROSECUTOR ASKING FOR A LINE ITEM REVENUE ITEM, THAT'S FUNDED AT LIKE A HUNDRED DOLLARS TO BE A PLACE HOLDER.
IF JUDGE WILEY IS ABLE TO RAISE FUNDS OUTSIDE THE TAX, THE GENERAL FUND.
THE SECOND ISSUE IS THE NIP, A PERSON, THE PERSON THAT NITSA WOULD BE PROVIDING TO BE THE LIKE MENTAL HEALTH TYPE OF COORDINATOR.
THAT WOULD BE UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE COUNTY COURT AT LAW, WHICH IS JUDGE RICH.
AND THAT WOULD BE WORKED OUT WITH THE COURT'S APPROVAL IN A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WHERE THAT PERSON WOULD NOT BE A COUNTY EMPLOYEE.
SO NOW WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET ACROSS TO THAT IS THEY'RE NOT A COUNTY EMPLOYEE.
THEY'RE NOT EMPLOYED BY THE COUNTY.
THEY'RE NOT PAID BENEFITS BY THE COUNTY.
WHAT THEY WOULD DO IS SOMETIMES KNIPPA PROVIDES PERSONNEL, A PERSON TO COME OFFICE.
I'M ASSUMING SOMEWHERE IN THE COUNTY COURT AT LAW AREA AND THE COUNTY MAY PROVIDE OFFICE SUPPLIES.
IT MAY PROVIDE A COMPUTER NORMAL OFFICE SUPPLIES, BUT IT DOESN'T PROVIDE A SALARY.
IT DOESN'T PROVIDE BENEFITS AND THAT PERSON IS AN EMPLOYEE THROUGH KNIPPA.
AND I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE IF NET, BUT JUST DOES CONTRACT EMPLOYEES, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE USUALLY THEY CONTRACT WITH PROVIDERS TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO THE COUNTY.
AND SO THAT IS, UM, THAT'S WHAT, NUMBER TWO IS NUMBER THREE IS PAY GRADE CHANGES.
AND I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR WHEN I TALKED WITH JUDGE WILEY, THESE PAY GRADE CHANGES ARE REALLY NOT, I THINK THEY ARE TOTALLY BUDGET NEUTRAL, BUT THEY ARE WHERE PEOPLE ARE MISCLASSIFIED, FOR INSTANCE, WHERE YOU MAY HAVE A RECEPTIONIST THAT IS BEING PAID MORE THAN AFTER THIS BUDGET THAN A TRIAL PARALEGAL.
AND SO SHE'S TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT SHE DOESN'T END UP WITH SOME CRAZY OFFICE ORGANIZATION WHERE PEOPLE ARE TOTALLY MISS PAID BASED ON, UH, RANGES OR GRADES THAT WERE INCORRECT.
SO THAT THIS IS REALLY A CORRECTION.
IT'S NOT DECIDING, HEY, WE WANT TO CHANGE THIS OR THAT.
SO I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT AND IT IS BUDGET NEUTRAL, BUT HERE'S MY OBJECTION TO THAT.
KAREN, IF WE HIRE, IF THE COUNTY NEXT YEAR HIRE SOMEBODY TO DO A WAGE AND CLASSIFICATION STUDY, I WOULD SAY THERE'S A HUGE PERCENTAGE OF CHANCE THAT ANY RECLASSIFICATIONS THAT WE DO NOW WILL BE WRONG BECAUSE NONE OF US ARE WAGING CLASSIFICATION EXPERTS.
SO I, I WOULD, I WOULD STICK BY, I THINK WE'VE TOLD EVERYBODY ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS WERE, WE'RE GONNA WAIT AND LOOK AT THE THING AS A, AS A WHOLE PROCESS.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD DO.
WELL, JUDGE, I I'D JUST LIKE TO ADDRESS THE NYMPHA ISSUE.
UH, NYMPHA REACHED OUT TO ME AND I HAD A MEETING WITH HIM YESTERDAY.
I BRIEFLY DISCUSSED IT WITH YOU.
UH, THEY PROVIDED QUITE A BIT OF, OF INFORMATION, UH, AND THEY, UH, ESSENTIALLY ASSERT THAT THE SERVICES THAT WE ARE ABOUT TO CREATE A, UH, $200,000, UH, COST FOR THAT NYMPHA ALREADY PROVIDES THOSE SERVICES THAT THEY'RE NOT UTILIZED PROPERLY.
THEY'RE NOT ADVERTISED TO THE PUBLIC PROPERLY, UH, AND THAT THEY ARE WILLING, UH, IN THE FORM OF THIS, UH, OFFER TO EVEN TAKE A FURTHER STEP, UH, TO, TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS THAT JUDGE RICH BROUGHT BEFORE THE COURT.
SO, UH, THEY HAVE ASKED, UH, THAT WE HAVE A STRATEGY MEETING IS
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AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, THAT SHOULD INCLUDE ALL OF THE, UM, ALL THE PLAYERS, RIGHT? THERE'S SOMEONE, THE SHERIFF, UH, JUDGE RICH'S COURT, PERHAPS, UH, ONE OR, OR BOTH OF THE DISTRICT JUDGES COURT, UM, TO DETERMINE TRUTHFULLY NOT, NOT TRUTHFULLY, THAT'S THE WRONG WORD TO DETERMINE, UH, TRANSPARENTLY WHAT SERVICES ARE ALREADY OUT THERE, WHAT SERVICES THEY ARE PROVIDING FOR OUR MATCHING FUNDS THAT WE GIVE THEM ALREADY, UH, AND TO MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS THAT, THAT, THAT THIS MEETING MIGHT GENUINELY, AND, AND, UH, I, I WOULD JUST SUGGEST THAT WE, BEFORE WE MAKE THIS DECISION, THAT WE, WE SIT DOWN WITH THOSE PEOPLE, WITH THE DIRECTOR OF THE PROGRAM, THE LOCAL DIRECTOR, THEY HAVE AN OFFICE THAT IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE COURTHOUSE.CAN I ASK WHO YOU SPOKE WITH? BECAUSE JUDGE RICH HAS ALSO IN JUDGE WHILE YOU'RE SPEAKING WITH THE DIRECTOR OF KNIPPA.
SO SHE WAS THERE, THE DIRECTOR AND HER FORENSIC EXPERT AND THE LOCAL OFFICE MANAGER.
AND WHAT WAS HER NAME? I'M SORRY, I DON'T HAVE A KAREN.
I'VE ACTUALLY SENT IT ALL TO THE JUDGE.
IT'S PROBABLY CAROL LUCKY PROBABLY, UH, BECAUSE SHE'S HAVING THESE SAME CONVERSATIONS WITH JUDGE RICH AND JUDGE WILDLY, WHICH IS WHY I SUGGESTED IT WAS MY SUGGESTION THAT INSTEAD OF HAVING ALL OF THESE CONVERSATIONS WHERE PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT PERCEPTIONS, HAVE ONE MEETING THAT, THAT PUTS EVERYTHING TRANSPARENTLY OUT THERE AND BE ABLE TO HOLD THEIR FEET TO THE FIRE AND MAKE A TRUE ASSESSMENT.
WHAT DOES THIS COUNTY NEED TO DO TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS THAT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT HAS HIGHLIGHTED THAT JUDGE RICHES HIGHLIGHTED? AND IF THAT'S A, IF THAT'S FUNDING A SPECIFIC COUNTY EMPLOYEE, SO BE IT.
BUT, UH, TH THE IMPRESSION, THE STRONG IMPRESSION I GOT WAS THAT THEY ARE MORE THAN WILLING TO, TO DETAIL WHAT THEIR SERVICES ARE, WHAT THEY ARE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH, AND TO TAKE A FURTHER STEP, IF WE NEED ADDITIONAL HELP OUT OF THEM RELATED TO, UH, OR, OR FUNDED, IF YOU WILL, BY THE ALREADY MATCHING FUNDS THAT WE GIVE.
SO I WOULD SUGGEST WE HAVE THAT MEETING WELL, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED WHEN THEY CONTACTED ME AND CAME TO MY OFFICE, THEY'RE WILLING TO DO WHATEVER THEY NEEDED TO DO.
I TOLD THEM THAT I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY DID, THAT THEY NEEDED TO GET THE PARTIES.
THE PROBLEM IS BETWEEN THE PARTIES AND THEY NEEDED TO BE THE ONES TO SOLVE IT.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE THIS IS TAKEN TO, IS THE PARTIES INVOLVED, JUDGE RICH AND ALL OF THEM, AND THE DA'S HELPING THEM TO SOLVE THOSE PROBLEMS THAT I HAVE IN THOSE DIALOGUES RIGHT NOW TO TRACK INDIVIDUAL DIALOGUES.
BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S AN INDIVIDUAL DIALOGUE.
THEY ARE THERE'S INPUT FROM THE SHERIFF AND INDIVIDUAL CONVERSATIONS, BUT WHENEVER WE START INTERJECTING OR SALES, THEN YOU KNOW THAT THEY'VE GOT SOMETHING GOING RIGHT NOW TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM, LET THEM SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
UH, I WILL SAY THIS MUCH, WE'VE HAD THE STAKEHOLDERS AT THE TABLE WITH THEM BEFORE I'VE HAD LIKE TWO OR THREE MEETINGS.
WE JUST HAD ONE NOT TOO LONG AGO OVER IN THEIR BUILDING.
THEIR NAMES ARE DOING A LOT OF THINGS AND THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENED.
THEY, THEY TELL US THEY'RE GOING TO DO THIS AND I CAN BRING JUDGE RICH.
AND HE, HE CAN SIT RIGHT HERE WITH ME AND THEY TELL US THEY'RE GOING TO DO NOTHING.
AND THEN THEY WIND UP NOT GETTING THE PEOPLE AND THEY DO NOT PROVIDE THE SURGICAL YET.
I KNOW I'VE SAID IT, THE ROOM I'VE HAD ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS IN THE ROOM AND THEY KEEP DROPPING THEIR SERVICES.
AND WHY DID WE CONTINUE IF THEY DON'T PROVIDE THE, WHY HAVE WE CONTINUED TO PROVIDE OUR MATCHING FUNDS? IF WE'RE NOT GETTING THEIR STATUE THAT TELLS US WE HAVE TO, THERE'S A STATUTE THAT TELLS US WE HAVE TO, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BASICALLY HAVE A LOCAL BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AUTHORITY.
THAT'S, NIPPO, WE'RE IN A REGION WHERE WE, WHERE WE HAVE TO, OR ELSE, I KNOW JUDGE RICHARD IS FAMILIAR WITH THIS.
WE HAVE TO BECOME OUR OWN LIKE LOCAL BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AUTHORITY, WHICH WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT.
BUT IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT THERE IS A BENEFIT IN HAVING ONE MORE STAKEHOLDERS MEETING SHARE SEEMS LIKE THERE WOULD BE A BENEFIT.
AND IF, IF THE LOCAL PROVIDER IS NOT ABLE OR UNWILLING TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT THEY, UH, ASSERT THEY CAN, THEN WE NEED TO BE MOVING THAT UP THE CHAIN BEYOND THE REGIONAL.
MAYBE WE NEED TO GET OUR STATE REP INVOLVED AND GO TO THE STATE LEVEL.
SO IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THAT, UH, BEFORE WE SPEND ANOTHER, THE DEFAULT POSITION IS ALWAYS, LET'S CREATE A POSITION AND ADD, THROW SOMEBODY IN THIS MIX AND SPEND ANOTHER $250,000, BUT WE'RE ALREADY SPENDING $200,000.
LET ME BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THOUGH, THAT WHEN JUDGE RICH AND JUDGE WILEY ARE MEETING WITH KNIPPA, THEY'RE MEETING WITH CINDY OR
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CAROL, KIND OF GOT HER NAME MIXED UP CAROL, THEN THEY THINK THAT THEY ARE WORKING ON RESOLVING A PROBLEM.THEY MAY NOT BE AWARE THAT NEVEAH IS GOING TO EVERY SHERIFF, EVERY COMMISSIONER, AND HAVING A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT, WELL, I SUGGEST THAT EVERYBODY BE IN THE SAME ROOM.
SO EVERYBODY WILL LET ME SAY SOMETHING THAT NO WHAT'S GOING, LET ME SAY SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE MAYBE THAT'LL HELP.
UM, WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT UNDER THIS SCENARIO WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IS THAT THIS PERSON, WHICH I WOULD THINK WOULD BE MOST LIKELY A KNIPPA EMPLOYEE WOULD BE SPECIFICALLY DESIGNATED TO BE SUPERVISED IN JUDGE RICH'S OFFICE, BE HOUSED IN JUDGE RICH'S OFFICE.
AND THAT'S A LOT DIFFERENT THAN ANYTHING WE'VE HAD BEFORE.
WE'VE NEVER HAD SOMEBODY SITTING IN THE OFFICE EVERY DAY WITH OUR TEAM.
THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN SOMEWHERE REMOTE IN AND OUT OF TOUCH.
SO THAT COULD BE A DIFFERENT, THAT COULD BE A GAME CHANGER.
WELL, AND I THINK THAT'S WHY THEY WANT SOMEONE UNDER THE JUDGES SUPER, OR THE COUNTY COURT AT LAW SUPERVISION, SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT OUR $250,000 THAT WE PAY EVERY YEAR, OUR 200,000, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT AMOUNT IS BEING UTILIZED FOR SERVICES THAT THE COUNTY REALLY NEEDS BECAUSE WE ARE PAYING FOR IT.
BUT IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT IN THE PAST.
I'VE SAID SAT IN ON A LOT OF THOSE MEETINGS WITH SHERIFF AND JUDGE WOOD.
IT'S BEEN A SYSTEMIC PROBLEM FOR YEARS ON CONSISTENTLY GETTING THE SERVICES THAT WE REQUEST AND THAT WE'RE SUPPOSEDLY PAYING FOR.
UM, I DON'T, I KNOW SHERIFF HAS, YOU KNOW, HE'S ALREADY HAD THE MEETING, BUT MAYBE THIS WOULD BE DIFFERENT SHERIFF IF THE PERSON WAS HOUSED IN THE OFFICE WITH JUDGE RICH'S TEAM.
AND SO WE'LL JUST TO FOLLOW ON WHAT YOU SAID.
IF, IF, IF THE, IF THE REALITY IS THAT NYMPHA ALWAYS SAYS THEY'RE GOING TO DO THE RIGHT THING, AND THEN THEY NEVER DO, HOW WAS ADDING A COUNTY EMPLOYEE GOING TO CHANGE THAT? HOW'S THAT GOING TO CHANGE THAT DYNAMIC, THAT, HOW WAS THAT COUNTY EMPLOYEE GOING TO GET THE COUNTY EMPLOYEE? I THINK IT WOULD BE A NIPPING EMPLOYEE.
WE CREATED A WELL, WELL, SO FAR WE'VE CREATED A POSITION, OUR BUDGET RIGHT NOW.
SO HOW WOULD THAT COUNTY EMPLOYEE BE ANY MORE SUCCESSFUL AT GETTING IT, HOLDING THEIR FEET TO THE FIRE THEN THE SHERIFF HAS BEEN, OR THE, OR THE JUDGES HAVE BEEN WELL, I THINK YOU'RE ALWAYS MORE SUCCESSFUL AT HOLDING SOMEONE'S FEET TO THE FIRE WHEN YOUR NAME IS ON THEIR PAYCHECK.
THE WAY RICHARD EXPLAINED IT TO ME WAS THAT PERSON WOULD HAVE THEIR OWN NETWORK COMMISSIONER OF HOW TO, WHERE TO SEND PEOPLE WHO TO CONTACT, TO GET HELP WHEN THEY COME IN.
I THINK YOU, I'M JUST PROPOSING THAT YOU HAVE A ONE FINAL STAKEHOLDERS MEETING.
YOU CAN ONLY MAKE GOOD DECISIONS WITH GOOD INFORMATION.
I DON'T SEE A DOWNSIDE TO, TO HAVE A FACT-BASED HAVE EVERY JUDGE THERE.
I MEAN, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT AUTHORITY LEVEL YOU CAN GET ANY HIGHER IN THIS COUNTY THAN THAT.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF JUDGE WILEY, SHE'S OPPOSED TO THAT.
I, AND I CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE ANY AUTHORITY TO SPEAK FOR THE COUNTY COURT AT LAW, BUT, YOU KNOW, JUDGE RICH IS A REASONABLE MAN.
I DON'T THINK HE WOULD HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S AN ISSUE.
PEOPLE NOT BEING WILLING TO MEET.
UH, I WILL FOLLOW UP ON THAT AND KIND OF MAYBE SEE IF WE CAN GET EVERYBODY IN THE SAME ROOM.
OH, WHAT, WHAT ARE WE SAYING WHEN WE'RE SAYING LEAVE THE POSITION AND I COULDN'T WAIT TO GENERATE, WE WOULD, IF YOU GET THAT, THEN WE'LL JUST TAKE IT OUT AND IT'S THAT SIMPLE, RIGHT? WE'D HAVE TO COUNT ON THE AUDITOR TO RUBEN.
I DON'T KNOW IF KAREN WOULD REMEMBER, BUT I THINK BRANDY'S GOT A REALLY YOUNG BRAIN AND SHE COULD PROBABLY REMEMBER TO FLAG THAT COULDN'T YOU.
UM, BUT I MEAN, THAT'S THE MODEL OF MIND.
I MEAN, I THINK EVERYBODY'S GOING TO HAVE THIS MEETING.
DON'T MEAN IF THEY DO IT, THEY DO IT.
IF THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T, BUT WE NEED, AND WHAT WE PROMISE DOESN'T BRIDGE.
IF, IF, UH, AND THAT'S RIGHT, YOU CAN GO BACK AND REVIEW THE TAPE.
YOU WERE A HUNDRED PERCENT ON SPORT.
SO, I MEAN, YOU JUST LEAVE IT THERE UNTIL WE DECIDED DIFFERENT OR WHATEVER.
WELL, WE'LL HAVE TO GET THAT ALL DONE BEFORE SEPTEMBER THE SIXTH, OBVIOUSLY.
WHAT ELSE? UM, THAT WE WANT TO ASK YOU, THEN
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YOU CAN GO, OKAY.SO I HAVE NO TO THE, UM, DAS, VERY CLASSIFICATIONS, BUT ONE OF THE PARTS OF THAT WAS BUDGETING $2,000 PER CERTIFICATE PAY FOR THE RECEPTIONIST.
UM, CAN WE GO AHEAD AND INCLUDE THAT OR WHEN SHE GETS HER PAIR OF LITTLE PARALEGAL CERTIFICATE? I THINK THAT'S THE, I MEAN, I WOULD SAY YES, BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE PROMISED, PROMISED NO RAMP, UM, COUNTY COURT AT LAW TWO, HE WANTS TO REMOVE HIS EXTRA HELP BUDGET.
HE HAS A PART-TIME COORDINATOR OR COORDINATOR, AND HE WANTS TO MOVE HER FROM PART-TIME TO FULL-TIME MAKING THAT, UM, COORDINATOR POSITION, MAKING THE SAME AS THE OTHERS.
IT'S LIKE ADDING ANOTHER POSITION.
REALLY THE IMPACT WOULD BE ABOUT 33,000.
ONCE YOU TAKE AWAY HIS PART-TIME BUDGET.
SO ALONG WITH THAT, THE, UM, COUNTY COURT AT LAW ONE WOULD LOCK A TITLE CHANGE FROM HER ASSISTANT COURT COORDINATOR TO COURT COORDINATOR AND BRING HER UP TO THE FULL COURT COORDINATOR PAY.
AND THAT WOULD GIVE BOTH COURTS TWO FULL-TIME COURT COORDINATORS MAKING BOTH OF THOSE THINGS.
UM, AT THIS POINT, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S, UM, I'M SO WE'RE SO LATE IN THE BUDGET PROCESS AND THING.
I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD MAKE THOSE CHANGES RIGHT NOW.
DOES ANYBODY OBJECT TO THAT OR DOES ANYBODY DISAGREE WITH ME? OKAY.
YOU SHOW UP HERE, RIGHT? YEAH.
AND EVEN IF THEY HAVE, IT'S STILL, UM, WE'RE LOADED, UM, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT WANTED TO REDUCE THEIR EXTRA HELP BUDGET FROM 14,000 TO 3000.
I WOULD ASSUME THAT WOULD BE FINE.
UM, UM, ON EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT THAT HASN'T BEEN DONE AND I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T SEND THIS TO YOU.
AND I DON'T THINK I SENT THIS TO THE EMAIL, BUT, UH, THERE'S A LINE IN THERE FOR, UM, SOMETHING SUPPLIES.
I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT'S CALLED, BUT THE GRANT, NO, THIS IS A SUPPLY THING, BUT IT GOES, THE BUDGET IN THERE RIGHT NOW IS 9,000.
AND I TOLD HIM THE OTHER DAY THAT HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO LIVE WITH 6,500, IF YOU COULD MAKE THAT CHANGE.
AND I TOLD HIM THAT 6,500 WAS EFFICIENT.
UM, IT'S KIND OF GOES BACK TO WHAT Y'ALL WERE TALKING ABOUT, BUT I JUST WANT TO BRING IT UP FOR CLARIFICATION.
UM, DA WILEY SAID THAT IF THE MENTAL HEALTH COORDINATOR POSITION WAS APPROVED, SHE WANTS TO INCREASE THE CURRENT POSITION SALARY BY AT LEAST 10,000 TO COMPENSATE FOR ADDITIONAL EXPECTATIONS.
IF THE MENTAL HEALTH COORDINATOR POSITION IS APPROVED, SHE WANTS TO INCREASE THE CURRENT POSITION SALARY BY AT LEAST $10,000 TO COMPENSATE FOR ADDITIONAL EXPECTATIONS.
I THINK WE CAN ADDRESS THAT ONCE WE GET CLARIFICATION ON WHETHER OR NOT KNIPPA IS GOING TO PROVIDE FUNDING.
CAN WE, CAN, WE CAN ADJUST THAT SOMETHING.
UM, I'M ASSUMING NO, TO ALL THE THINGS THAT WERE LIKE WANTING TO INCREASE IT FROM A CLERK, ONE TO A CLERK TWO AND ALL OF THAT I'M SAYING YES.
UNLESS SOMEBODY DOESN'T AGREE WITH ME, THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO DISAGREE.
PRE-TRIAL BOND SUPERVISION ONCE A $1,200 VEHICLE ALLOWANCE AGAIN, UH, PRE-TRIAL BOND SUPERVISION, JOHNNY WHITE, ONCE A $1,200 VEHICLE ALLOWANCE FOR THE DIRECTOR.
DOES THE DIRECTOR HAVE ACCESS TO A COUNTY CAR? NO.
DON'T THEY HAVE FLEET IN THAT DEPARTMENT.
I WOULD BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT, SIR.
LET'S LET'S BRING, HUH? I THINK THEY DO.
I HATE TO PUT IT OFF, BUT LET'S BRING IT BACK ONCE WE DETERMINE WHETHER THEY HAVE ACCESS TO A FLEET.
UM, THE ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT WOULD LIKE TO INCREASE THEIR PART-TIME BUDGET TO COVER KAUFMAN COUNTY EMPLOYEE OVERTIME FOR WORKING ELECTIONS BY $5,000.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SAY SOMETHING LIKE, I THINK THAT'D BE FINE.
ELECTIONS IS, UH, THE THING WITH ELECTIONS IS THAT THE STATE KEEPS ADDING MORE AND MORE STUFF.
AND THAT OUR ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT BUDGET WILL PROBABLY BE TWICE WHAT IT IS IN THREE YEARS.
IF THEY KEEP ON THAT TRACK, I'M BEING WORSE THAN THAT.
CAN Y'ALL KEEP MY DAUGHTER IN HER PRAYERS.
UH, SHE'S BRINGING HER BED HOME.
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OKAY.UM, FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, A CAR ALLOWANCE INCREASE FOR THE DIRECTOR FROM $1,200 TO $2,500 DOWN TO 500, 1,200 TO 2,500 INCREASING 1300.
AND THEN OUR INQUIRIES COMMISSIONERS.
I WOULD, I WOULD, I WOULD BE AGAINST THAT.
WHAT DO YOU WANT ABOUT FLEET VEHICLES? WELL, I THOUGHT WE WERE TRYING TO MOVE MORE TOWARDS THAT WITH ALL THESE OTHER VEHICLE THINGS INSTEAD OF THE PAY HIM DIFFERENCE.
AND I DON'T, I MEAN, I DON'T, I MEAN, I THINK IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT I'M SERIOUS WAS DOING.
WHAT THE POINT WHERE IF A DEPARTMENT HAS FLEET VEHICLES, THEN I JUST, I THINK THE PEOPLE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE DEPARTMENTS SHOULD USE THOSE CARS.
YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT THAT, JOHNNY.
SO WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO THAT WHENEVER.
UM, WE ARE RELIABLY INFORMED BY KAREN THAT JOHNNY WHITE DOES NOT HAVE FLEET VEHICLES.
SO I WOULD, I'M SURE THAT THAT PERSON IN THAT DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO DRIVE AROUND.
SO, WELL, LET ME ASK YOU THIS.
NOW HE PAYS FOR HIS DEPARTMENT WITH THE FUNDS HE COLLECTS.
SO IT'S, AS I SAID, HE PAYS FOR IT.
HE FUNDS HIS DEPARTMENT THROUGH THE FEES THAT HE COLLECTS.
THE CRIMINALS ARE PAYING THE COSTS.
IT'S GOING TO COME OUT OF THERE.
YEAH, HE HAS BUILT IT QUIET UP QUITE A BIT, BUT IT'S NOT UP THERE YET.
IF HE HAS AN EMPLOYEE, THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO DRIVE AROUND THE COUNTY.
THEY DON'T HAVE A FLEET VEHICLE.
I THINK THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE A CAR ALLOWANCE.
THAT'S FOR HIM, NOT FOR EMPLOYEES.
HE HAS TO PICK UP THE PAPERWORK FROM THE JAIL.
WHAT WAS THAT AMOUNT OF YOU, SIR? AGAIN, HE ASKED FOR 1200, A HUNDRED DOLLARS A MONTH.
UM, FIRE MARSHALL ONCE THE DELETE, EXTRA HELP BUDGET.
UM, HOW MUCH IS THAT? 12,000 6 73.
THERE WERE A LITTLE BIT HELPS.
CONSTABLE ONE WOULD LOCK TO TITLE TRAINS FROM CLERK TO ADMIN ASSISTANT.
I THOUGHT THEY ALL HAD A NAME.
DON'T AREN'T WE UNIFORM WITH EVERYBODY.
I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT WE WERE YOUR PITCH.
NO, JUST STANDARD IN THE OTHER CONSTABLES.
I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD CHANGE 'CAUSE I DON'T THINK THEY DO BUDGET AND THEY SHOULDN'T BE ADMIN ASSISTANT LESSON.
THEY DO ALL OF THIS BUDGET PAYROLLS AND EVERYTHING.
THE EXTENSION SERVICE OFFICE WOULD LIKE TO INCREASE VEHICLE ALLOWANCE FROM 6,000 TO 7,200 FOR ALL THREE AGENTS.
WE OUGHT TO STAY WHERE WE ARE.
DON'T THEY GET FUNDING FROM OTHERS.
AND THEY GET OUT OF COUNTY TRAVEL.
THEY PANNED IN THEIR, YOU KNOW, THEIR RECEIPTS AND STUFF AND KNOWLEDGE.
AND THIS MAY HAVE ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED.
BUT I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THE ADDITION OF ONE TOP PART-TIME PARAPROFESSIONAL WORK FOR THE EXTENSION OFFICE, ADDING IN PART-TIME PEER PROFESSIONAL THAT WASN'T ON OUR LIST.
THEY WANT VEHICLE ALLOWANCE FOR 7,200 FOR, FOR TWO EMPLOYEES THAT WOULD MAKE ALL OF THEIR EMPLOYEES HAVE VEHICLE.
NOW IT'S ONLY TWO OF THEM DO NOT CURRENTLY OTHER THAN THE ADMIN ASSISTANT.
THEY DON'T WANT TO DROP THE BANS.
DO THEY HAVE THE BAND OF STEEL? THIS ONE, WE BOPPED VEHICLES.
EVERYBODY WHO WAS THAT COURT WAS TIRED OF THE $7,200 CURRENT VEHICLE ALLOWANCE.
SO THEY SAID WE WOULD RENT THE ENTERPRISE OR IF THEY HAVE ACCESS TO FLEET, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT.
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IN HAVING A CAR, YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE A CAR LAMP.WE JUST NEEDED THAT CLARIFICATION.
CAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE CALLING AND ASKING, IS THIS GET APPROVED? WHAT, WHATEVER I CAN SOLVE THAT PROBLEM FOR YOU TELL THEM TO CALL YOU.
I'M GOING TO GIVE HIM YOUR PHONE NUMBER.
I SURE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU NOW.
ALMOST NEVER COME THEN WE DIDN'T CLEAR UP ALL THAT.
I'M GLAD WE PUT A PLACE HOLDER AND WE DID THE NYMPHA AND WE DID WHATEVER IT CHARGED DOWN.
I GUESS WE DONE EVERYTHING WAS BOTH TO ASK FOR.
UH, I MAKE MOTION THAT JAR LISTS ADA PLACEHOLDER.
WE DID, WE DID A HUNDRED, A HUNDRED DOLLARS ON A REVENUE AND A HUNDRED EXPENSE.
I HAVE TO PUT IT IN A SEPARATE LINE SO I CAN WATCH IT.
UM, A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING ALSO AGAIN, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS AND SECOND COMMISSIONER BARBER TO ADJOURN.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE OPPOSED.