Sep 27, 2022 Commissioners Court

ONE MINUTE.

10.

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ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE GATHERED HERE THIS MORNING

[Call to Order]

I'M GONNA MOVE BACK A FEW HUNDRED YEARS HERE.

THEY, UH, ANYWAY, UH, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA DO OUR NORMAL STUFF.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE OUR INVITATION AND PLEDGES TO THE FLAGS, AND THEN WE'LL GET TO THE AGENDA.

AND COMMISSIONER BARBER SAID HE WOULD LEAD US IN A PRAYER AND, UH, COMMISSIONER HUNT WOULD DO THE PLEDGES FOR US.

SO, WHEN EVERYBODY RISE, RIGHT WITH PLEASE.

HEAVENLY FATHER, WE WANNA THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY, UH, ESPECIALLY WANNA THANK YOU FOR THE COOLER WEATHER.

IT'S REALLY BEEN NICE AND WE APPRECIATE IT.

I WANNA ASK YOU TO BE WITH US ALL, ESPECIALLY THIS MORNING AS WE'RE WORKING ON THINGS FOR THESE COUNTY.

WE WANNA ASK YOU TO, UH, KEEP US ALL SAFE AND BE WITH OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND OUR FOLKS IN THE MILITARY.

IT'S IN YOUR SON'S NAME, WE PRAY.

AMEN.

AMEN.

I PLEDGE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND TWO, THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INVISIBLE LIBERTY AND JUSTICE, FRAUD, HONOR OF TEXAS FLAG BY BELIEVES TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD ONE AND INDIVIDUAL.

THANK ALL VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, I HAVE

[1. ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE. ]

YEAH, I'VE GOT ONE THING.

IF I CUT RIGHT QUICK, UM, COMMISSION PULL UP HERE JUST A SECOND.

UH, THE ELMO COMMUNITY CRIME WATCH IS GOING TO BE HOSTING A NATIONAL NIGHT OUT EVENT ON TUESDAY, OCTOBER THE FOURTH FROM 6:00 PM TO 8:00 PM AT THE ELK GROVE BAPTIST CHURCH.

UH, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE HAMBURGERS, HOT DOGS, AND DESSERTS AND ACTIVITIES FOR THE KIDS.

UH, THE, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ARE GONNA BE OUT THERE AS WELL WITH SOME OF THEIR VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT.

AND, UH, JUST WANNA PUT THAT OUT THERE IN CASE ANYBODY WANTED TO ATTEND.

WE'D LIKE TO HAVE Y'ALL OUT THERE.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

ANYBODY ELSE? ANY ROUTE IN CORRESPONDENCE? ALL RIGHT, THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT

[2. CONSENT AGENDA]

AND IN THE CONSENT AGENDA YOU ALL HAVE, THAT'S IT'S CURRENT MEETINGS FROM LAST WEEK'S ONLY THING IN IT.

UM, ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT OR ANY OBJECTION TO IT? SO, I'LL TAKE A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

ALL RIGHT.

I HAVE A I'LL SECOND AND THE SECOND ALL IN PAPER, PLEASE SAY, AYE.

AYE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THREE IS TO DISCUSS AND EXIT INTO A, DOES A MESS THE SHERIFF SOMETHING BEFORE WE DO THIS? IN CASE? DID WE NEED ANYBODY ELSE? NO.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO WE, WE HAVE TO GO INTO A DISCUSS AND EXIT

[4. Executive Session; Pursuant to Texas Gov't Code Section 551.076, the Commissioners' Court will meet in closed session to discuss courthouse/justice center security and the security of county buildings. ]

UM, SO DO I HEAR MOTION? DO MOVE INTO THAT EXISTING SESSION, WHICH WE'LL HAVE IT IN THE NEXT ROOM.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

OKAY.

HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER BARBARA.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

I HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER HUNT ON FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

UH, SO WILL MEET IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION UNDER, PURSUANT UNDER TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTIONS 5 51 0 7 6, AND THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT WILL MEET IN CLOSED SESSION TO DISCUSS COURTHOUSE JUSTICE, SECURITY, AND THE SECURITY OF THE BUILDING.

SO WE'LL BE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION IN THE NEXT ROOM.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE IT IN THE NEXT ROOM.

EVERYBODY STAY IN THERE PLEASE.

AND WE'LL BE ABOUT FEW MINUTES.

OR I TAKE A MOTION, I'LL TAKE A MOTION, UH, COME BACK OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

ALL RIGHT.

EVER.

I HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER HUNT TO EXIT EXECUTIVE SESSION AND ENTER BACK INTO REGULAR MEETING.

THEN I HAVE A SECOND.

NO, A SECOND.

I HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER BARBARA.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY, AYE ALL AND DISCUSS AND TALK TO ANY RESULTS OUT OF IT.

AND WE'LL HAVE NONE THAT THIS AT THIS TIME.

UH, WE'LL HAVE NO MOTIONS IN THAT.

SO WE'LL

[7. Commissioner Cates; Presentation on Seagoville TIRZ. ]

AND WE HAVE COMMISSIONER CASE PRESENTATION ON SEAVILLE TOUR.

UH, DID Y GET ALL YOUR LOGISTICS UP HERE? WORK WORKED OUT? UH, CROSS MY FINGERS.

OKAY.

LET'S HOPE.

OKAY, GOOD.

GOOD.

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SO, UH, IF YOU'D TELL EVERYBODY WHO YOU ARE, CAUSE I DON'T KNOW, HAVE ANYTHING.

I DON'T HAVE IT.

SO, UH, STEVEN GLASCO, I'M, UH, WITH MEGA TELL.

UH, HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY HAS A LITTLE BOOK.

WE DO.

UH, WE PASSED OUT RIGHT DAVID? WELL MAY BE UP TO THE SHOW HERE.

VERY GOOD.

ALL RIGHT.

I'LL GET THAT TECHNOLOGY ON MY SIDE TODAY.

THAT'S MM-HMM.

RARE.

NOW, IF Y'ALL COULD JUST GET THE TRINITY WATER DOWN HERE, THAT'D BE THIS, THIS CLEAR WILL BE RIGHT.

EXCUSE ME, SIR.

LET'S TALK.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE HAVE A, UH, UH, SUBDIVISION SANTORINI LAGUNA AZURE, UH, IN SIEG EAGLEVILLE, UH, MAJORITY OF IS INSIDE KAUFMAN COUNTIES, THE SMALLEST LIVER IN DALLAS COUNTY.

UM, WE ARE MIDDLE OF, UH, CONSTRUCTION ON PHASE ONE A AND ONE B.

UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY.

WE HAVE A DEVELOPED AGREEMENT WITH THEM.

AND, UH, AS PART OF THE, UH, PACKAGE DEAL THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED WITH THEM, UH, THERE WAS AN ASKED FOR, UH, COUNTY PARTICIPATION IN IT TERMS. UH, SO THIS IS KIND OF, KIND OF REVIEW SOME OF THE PROJECT THAT WE HAVE AND SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL BENEFIT THE COUNTY.

UM, AND THEN, UH, I THINK DAVID CAN TALK TO SOME SPECIFICS ON THE TERMS. SO WE ARE RIGHT ON FM 1 75.

UH, WE'RE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY, ACTUALLY, I'M SORRY, WE'RE IN THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY, RIGHT BY THE, UH, UH, THE LARGE FLOOD PLANE AREA IN THE GIANT CROSS.

IF YOU DRIVE BY THERE, UH, YOU'LL SEE OUR CONSTRUCTION TRAILERS OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, OUR SALES TRAILER.

UM, AND WE'VE GOT FLAGS AND STUFF GOING UP, SO IT'S EASY TO SEE.

UH, BUT SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'LL BE PUTTING INTO THE PROJECT THAT WILL BENEFIT THE COUNTY.

UM, THERE'S AN FM, LET ME PULL THIS UP.

SO FM 1389, UH, IS ONE OF THE MAIN NORTH SOUTH ROUTES OFF OF 1 75 HEADING SOUTH DOWN INTO THE, UM, THE COUNTY AREA.

UH, WE'RE GONNA BE EX, UM, ADDING THE LEFT AND RIGHT TURN LANES TO THAT, THAT ROAD, UH, MAKING SOME IMPROVEMENTS ON THAT ROAD.

OUR TII DOESN'T SHOW, UH, A LIGHT, UH, BUT ONCE THE AREA BUILDS UP MORE, UM, THERE MAY BE ONE.

YEAH, YOU LOOK SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WE ARE.

ANYTHING.

OH, STATIC CARRY THOSE.

OKAY.

CAN ARROW DOWN, STEVE, ARROW DOWN, YES.

HMM.

I'M NOT A TECHNOLOGY WHI SO, ALL RIGHT.

HE'S GETTING SOMETHING TO MOVE HERE.

OH, YOU GOT IT.

WELL, THAT'S JUST THE NEXT SLIDE, THOUGH.

THAT'S NOT REALLY WHAT I WANTED.

DAVID, I WANT TO GET OUT OF THIS PRESENTATION HIGHWAY.

IT MAY BE THE MAP.

I DON'T KNOW.

I HAVEN'T SEEN IT, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WANTED.

MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

BUT IT'S NOT SHOWING, UM, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE STUCK ON THE PRESENTATION FOR NOW, , SO, I'M SORRY.

OKAY.

WE'RE GONNA LOSE A LOT OF VISUAL AIDS THEN.

THAT'S A SHAME.

UNLESS STEVE, YOU WANT TO EXIT? JUST HIT ESCAPE.

NO, IT'S NOT GONNA LET ME ESCAPE.

STUCK WITH, WE'RE JUST GONNA CONTINUE ON WITH THIS, THEN THIS PICTURE.

ANYWAY, SO THAT, THAT'S TRUE.

WE ALSO HAVE, UH, SO WE ARE, WE'VE GOT A PRETTY GOOD SIZE OFFSITE WATER LINE THAT'S GONNA PROVIDE, UH, WATER SERVICES TO THE AREA.

WE'VE GOT A GOOD OFFSITE, OFFSITE, SANITARY SEWER LINE, WHICH WILL ALSO SUPPLY SEWER TO THE AREA.

UH, ALONG WITH THOSE TWO ITEMS WE'VE BEEN OFFERING, UH, SERVICE, UH, THROUGH THE PEOPLE'S PROPERTY, UH, THAT THE LINES ARE GOING THROUGH.

UM, WE ARE, I THINK ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS WE'RE WORKING ON IS RELOCATING THE TECH DOT RAMPS.

SO THE ON RAMP, UH, CURRENTLY AS YOU GET OFF THE HIGHWAY ONTO

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IT'S GONNA GET MOVED BACK TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE GRAVEYARD.

UM, SO THAT'LL REALLY HELP THE QUEUE FOR THE TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING TO THE FLEA MARKET.

I THINK RIGHT NOW, THAT WHOLE AREA BACKS UP PRETTY BAD ON FLEA MARKET DAYS.

UH, AND YOU HAVE EVEN SOME TRAFFIC THAT IS OUT INTO THE HIGHWAY, UM, IN THE MORNINGS WHEN EVERYBODY'S TRYING TO GET OUT THERE.

SO MOVING THAT QUEUE UP WILL REALLY HELP RESOLVE A LOT OF THAT TRAFFIC THROUGH THE AREA.

UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT ONE POINT, ONCE WE GET UP TO A CERTAIN NUMBER OF OF HOMES, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL, UH, ON THE P ROAD THAT GOES INTO OUR COMMUNITY.

UH, THAT'LL ALSO HELP THE QUEUE, UH, ALONG 1 75, UM, AS PART OF THE LAGOON.

AND, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW.

WE HAVE, UM, A WHOLE HOST OF OF BENEFITS, HUH? ARROW DOWN.

WELL, IT SHOWS UP ON MY SCREEN.

WELL, I'LL READ TO THE, WHAT I HAVE YOU GUYS CAN CONTINUE TO ENJOY, UH, THE PICTURE.

THERE IS A BROCHURE THAT, UH, KIND OF GOES INTO A LOT OF THESE THINGS.

THE LAGOON Z IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

UM, IT HAS, UM, ABOUT A 2.3 ACRE LAGOON WITH AN INTEGRAL SQUAM BAR.

IT HAS 60 FOOT WATER SLIDES, A HUNDRED FOOT RADIUS SPLASH PARK.

UH, THERE'S A STAGE IN OUTDOOR VENUES.

UH, THERE'S TWO RESTAURANTS, A BAR, A FULL COMMERCIAL KITCHEN THAT CAN CATER AS A 16 LANE BOWLING ALLEY, AN ARCADE, UH, AN INDOOR PLACE OFFS PLAYGROUND.

UH, THERE'S RENTABLE PARTY ROOMS. THERE'S A FITNESS CENTER, A YOGA STUDIO.

AND, UM, THE ENTIRE, UM, UM, PROPERTY OR A PROJECT SHOULD EMPLOY, UH, ON AVERAGE ABOUT 30 PEOPLE.

UH, SOMEONE, IT'S GONNA BE SEASONAL.

UH, OBVIOUSLY THE, THE WATER PART ITSELF, UM, IS NOT GONNA HAVE AS MUCH ATTENTION IN THE WINTER MONTHS, BUT, UH, THE INTERNAL BUILDING AND EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON THERE, PLUS ALL THE, THE, UH, ACTIVITIES, UH, WITH THE YOGA STUDIO AND THE FITNESS CENTER.

UM, AND THE, THE DIFFERENT VENUES WILL BE OPEN YEAR ROUND.

UM, WE HAVE ADJACENT, AND AGAIN, IT'S NOT GONNA SHOW ANYTHING ADJACENT TO THE, UH, LAGOON.

WE HAVE MULTIFAMILY.

UM, THE MULTIFAMILY, UH, IS, UH, A THREE STORY, UH, GARDEN STYLE.

UM, WE THINK IT'LL REALLY, UH, ENHANCE THE AREA, UH, RIGHT OFF SET, 1 75.

YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT, UH, A LOT OF MULTIFAMILY THROUGH THERE.

UM, THE LAGOON, UH, OFFERS, UH, ALL THE RESTAURANTS AND BARS AND ACTIVITIES FOR FOLKS THAT LIVE INSIDE THE MULTIFAMILY UNITS TO COME DOWN AND USE, UH, AND REALLY ENHANCES THE, THE, UM, THE MULTIFAMILY UNITS AND, UM, CAN CREATE, UH, A LOT OF DESIRE AND MARKET WHERE THERE MAY NOT BE, UH, A LOT FOR A LOT OF MULTIFAMILY WITH COVID AND, AND A LOT OF FOLKS WORKING FROM HOME.

UM, IT GIVES PEOPLE THE, THE ABILITY TO PRETTY MUCH LIVE WHEREVER THEY WANT TO IN THE METROPLEX.

UM, AND IF YOU COULD LIVE RIGHT OFF THE HIGHWAY WITH EASY ACCESS TO MOST REST OF METROPLEX AND HAVE ALL THE, UM, FEATURES IN THE LAGOON THAT YOU CAN JUST WALK DOWN TO, UM, WE THINK THAT'LL BE A BIG HIT.

SOME OF THE MULTIFAMILY WE'RE GOING TO USE AS, UM, KIND OF AN OVERNIGHT AIRBNB TYPE MODEL.

UM, WE REALIZE THIS IS KIND OF A, A RESORT THAT WE'RE BUILDING AND THAT, UM, THERE'S GONNA BE FOLKS THAT ARE GONNA WANT TO COME AND SPEND A WEEKEND WITH THEIR FAMILY.

UH, SO WE WANNA BE ABLE TO OFFER THEM, UH, THE ABILITY TO STAY OVERNIGHT.

AND THEN BETWEEN THE LAGOON AND THE MULTI-FAMILY, UM, WE'RE ADDING A LOT OF PROPERTY VALUE FOR PROPERTY TAX PURPOSES.

UM, AND THEN THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT WE HAVE AROUND THE AREA, UH, WE TYPICALLY HAVE SEEN AN AVERAGE OF ABOUT 50 TO $60,000 PEOPLE ARE PUTTING INTO THEIR HOMES MORE THAN THEY PUT INTO OUR NON LAGOON

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UM, AND THIS OVER THE, THE COURSE OF THE SUBDIVISION, UH, GIVES A, A PRETTY HUGE INCREASE IN THE PROPERTY VALUES.

UH, AND ALONG WITH THAT, UM, HUGE INCREASE IN TAX REVENUE.

I WISH I COULD SHOW YOU SOME OF THE PICTURES OF LAGOON, CAUSE WE GOT SOME NICE ONES, BUT YOU GUYS ARE ABLE TO SEE THEM IN THERE.

WE'RE LOOKING THROUGH THE BOOK .

IT IS PRETTY NEAT LOOKING LAGOON DEAL.

WE'VE HAD JUST A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PRESALES, UH, PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BUY JUST TO BE IN THE LAGOON.

SO SOME OF OUR PRESALES ARE, THEY'RE DIRT, UH, AND WE'LL HAVE THREE OR 400 HOME SALES, UH, FOLKS WHEN WE ASK THEM, THEY JUST WANT TO BE IN A LOOKING COMMUNITY.

IS YOUR MULTIFAMILY, IS IT A RENTAL RESIDENTIAL, OR IS IT CONDOMINIUM SALES TYPE? RESIDENTIAL? IT WOULD BE RENTAL.

AND SOME OF THAT'LL BE AIRBNB TWO, RIGHT? YES, SIR.

YEAH.

AND, AND DO, DOES THE LAGOON, ARE YOU GOING TO CHARGE OUTSIDE PUBLIC TO COME INTO IT? IS THAT SO THERE'LL BE, UH, YES, SIR.

THERE'LL BE, YOU COME IN WATER PARK, RIGHT? KIND OF, KIND OF ALONG THOSE LINES OF SOMETHING PRETTY REASONABLE.

UH, AND THEN WHEN YOU'RE INSIDE, THERE MAY BE ADDITIONAL FEES FOR SOME OF THE THINGS.

WE HAVE A FLOW RIDER MACHINE, UH, IT'S KINDA LIKE A LITTLE SURF IF YOU'VE BEEN ON A CRUISE.

THE CRUISE SHIP ALMOST CERTAINLY HAD ONE.

IT'S A LITTLE SURF MACHINE THAT PEOPLE GET ON.

UH, THERE'LL BE LIKE AN UPCHARGE FOR THAT.

A COUPLE OTHER THINGS.

YEAH.

NOT ME.

NO.

AND THE PEOPLE.

ARE Y'ALL DOING THE, THE SAME PROJECT OVER AT LAKE RAY HUB? IS THAT CHARLES'S PROJECT AS WELL? THAT SIMILAR TO THIS? I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ONE AT LAKE RAY HUB.

NO, WE'RE THAT, WE'RE ON 40.

OKAY.

OH, OKAY.

THAT'S RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LAGOON OR THE PROJECT AND WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR TOTAL PROJECTED RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION GONNA BE? UM, BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE FAMILY AS, AS WELL, RIGHT? AS WELL.

SINGLE FAMILY AS WELL, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT.

SO, HI, MY NAME IS ZACH FROM FOUNDER OF TITA HOME.

SO WAIT, WAIT, I'M SORRY.

THE BLADE COME UP TO THE MICROPHONES.

OKAY.

SORRY, ZACK.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE HOME PRICE OR THE AVERAGE, I CAN ANSWER THAT IF I MAY.

OKAY.

YES SIR, PLEASE.

I CAN.

THANK YOU.

SO WE HAVE ABOUT LIKE 2000 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES CURRENTLY AND ABOUT 2000 MULTI-FAMILY.

SO OUR AVERAGE PRICE POINT THAT WE HAVE ALREADY PRE-SOLD CURRENTLY IN LAST SEVEN MONTHS HAS BEEN ABOUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, FOUR 50 TO 500.

IT'S AN AVERAGE PRICE POINT THAT WE HAVE.

SO AT THE BUILT OUT, WE WILL HAVE ABOUT BILLION WORTH OF SINGLE FAMILY AND ABOUT LIKE 400 MILLION WORTH OF MULTI-FAMILY AND ABOUT 70 TO 80 MILLION WORTH OF, UH, LOGUM.

SO ALL COMBINED TOGETHER WOULD BE ABOUT 1.5 BILLION BUILT OUT VALUE.

AND WE CURRENTLY ARE BUILDING ABOUT 12 OF THESE PROJECTS ALL OVER THE TEXAS 10 OF THE ARE IN DALLAS.

AND, UH, TWO OF THE ARE IN HOUSTON SINCE, UH, IN MARCH OF 2021 THAT WE HAVE STARTED PRE-SELLING THROUGHOUT ALL OF OUR LAGO COMMUNITIES, INCLUDING THE SEAVILLE, WHICH SIGO IS OUR LARGEST FUND.

WE SOLD EXCESS OF BILLION DOLLARS CURRENTLY PRE-SOLD OF OVER BILLION DOLLARS.

AND THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF LAGUNA ZOO IS VERY UNIQUE AND DIFFERENT.

UH, WE BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A HUGE DEMAND FOR THE PEOPLE THAT THEY WANT TO MOVE OUT OF THE DOWNTOWN AND COME LIVE IN THE SUBURBS, BUT THEY NEED TO HAVE SOME SORT OF THE AMENITY THAT, UH, WOULD SATISFY THEIR NEED.

WE CAME UP WITH THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF THE ZOO AS A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY AND WITH THE COUNTY.

AND THIS THIRD REQUEST THAT WE HAVE, WHAT IT DOES, IT WOULD ALLOW US TO BRING THE COST OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE LOWER, THAT THE SAVING THAT WE WILL HAVE ON DEVELOPING THE LAND, WE CAN USE THAT MONEY AND EXPENDED FOR BUILDING THIS I AMEN.

SUCH AZURE.

SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE A FOOTPRINT OF EXCESS OF 80,000 SQUARE FEET FOR JUST OUR CLUBHOUSE.

AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE, UH, RESPECTED MAYOR, CITY MANAGER AND STAFF, UH, IN CITY OF SEAGOVILLE FOR ALMOST LIKE TWO YEARS THAT WE COULD DEVELOP THIS IMMUNITY AND WHOLE, UH, ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.

AND LAGOON IS BIG ENOUGH THAT CERTAINLY ACCOMMODATE THE PUBLIC ACCESS.

WE HAVE EXCESS OF 500

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WE HAVE ABOUT LIKE 28 HERE.

THAT IS THE FOOTPRINT OF OUR WHOLE ENTIRE OUTDOOR AND INDOOR ACTIVITY THAT WE HAVE.

WE'RE EXPECTING THE HUGE SUCCESS IN THIS PART OF THE TOWN.

I, I FEEL LIKE THAT NOTHING LIKE THAT EXIST IN THIS PART OF THE TOWN.

AND WE SHOULD GET A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE SURROUNDING AREA THAT THEY WOULD COME IN AND USE IT AS JUST LIKE A TRULY RESORT FIRST CLASS FACILITIES.

AND IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT FOR US TO KEEP EVERYTHING IN THE AFFORDABLE PRICE RANGE AS FAR AS THE FOOD AND BEVERAGE.

AND ALSO IN ENTRY FEE, BECAUSE WE ARE, UH, WE ARE, UH, WORKING ON THE VOLUME.

IT'S NOT REALLY LIKE A LUXURY RESORT THAT ONLY CERTAIN, YOU KNOW, LIFESTYLE CAN USE THAT.

THEN WE HAVE CLOSE TO, UH, 18 MILLION, THE PERFORMER, UH, OF REVENUE ON FOOD AND BEVERAGE.

AND, UH, THAT'S CORRECT.

SO SALES TAX, UH, SHOULD BE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT.

THAT'S RIGHT.

YOU'RE EXPECTING ANYTHING BETWEEN 18? YEAH, THE SALES TAX IS GOOD FOR THE CITY, BUT IT DOESN'T HELP THE COUNTY AT ALL.

WE DON'T HAVE SALES TAX'S.

UM, UH, MY OTHER QUESTION IS, WE, WE HAVEN'T ON MAP, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING MAPPED.

YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THE MAP VERY, IS THAT LOCATED? I DON'T, WE DON'T SEE ANYTHING.

WE DON'T EMAIL IT TO IS ALL THE PROJECT IN KAUFMAN COUNTY OR IS PART OF IT IN DALLAS COUNTY? A SMALL PARTISAN.

DALLAS SMALL.

WHICH WAY? I MEAN, IS IT SMALL? OUR PART OR SMALL? DALLAS.

DALLAS COUNTY.

THE DALLAS COUNTY IS MAYBE A 10TH OF THE OVERALL PROJECT.

OKAY.

CAN, CAN I, WE SHOW THIS FUNCTION, JOE.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO, WE CAN PROBABLY BRING, BUT WE'RE ALL STILL TALKING ABOUT, THIS IS BASICALLY ALL RESIDENTIAL.

UH, YES.

I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT, IT'S MORE RESIDENTIAL WITHIN OF RESORT.

SO THIS IS, THIS IS THE WHOLE OVERALL SIDE.

AND DALLAS COUNTY IS REALLY THIS PORTION.

I SEE.

THAT'S RIGHT.

YOU LIKE TO SHOW HIM LIKE HERE AND SHOW HIM SO THAT HE CAN UNDERSTAND.

AND EVERYBODY, IT'S MOSTLY ARE IN CO BANK COUNTY.

WHERE'S THE 1 75? 1 75 IS C I'M SORRY.

IT'S BETWEEN COMBINING ROAD IS, IT'S BETWEEN COMBINE AND, AND SEAVILLE ABOUT OFFICE 1 75 RIGHT OFF THE, YOU KNOW WHERE THE BIG CHURCH YEAH.

ROCK CHURCH IS.

IT'S RIGHT THERE.

YEAH.

ABOVE LOOKING GO.

OH, SO IT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROCK CHURCH? YEAH.

YES, BETWEEN THE CHURCH AND THE CEMETERY.

T OKAY.

YEAH, YEAH, I KNOW WHERE HE IS TALKING ABOUT NOW.

THAT'S RIGHT.

YEAH.

MM-HMM.

, TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR, UH, NUMBER ONE.

WHAT'S YOUR TIMELINE? WHAT, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU SEE AS YOUR TIMELINE FOR, UH, COMPLETION? SO WE HAVE ALREADY BROKE AROUND, OR SUBDIVISION IS A SCHEDULE TO BE, UH, COMPLETED AS RATHER RESIDENTIAL GOES BY FEBRUARY OF 2023.

AND BASED OFF THE PRESALE THAT WE HAD AND OUR MODEL HOME AND FIRST PHASE, THE OVER 200 HOMES WILL BE COMPLETED WITH THE SEAL OF DECEMBER 23.

AND WE ARE EXPECTING THAT WE BREAK GROUND ON THE WHOLE ENTIRE LAGOON, UH, BY MARCH OF 23.

AND COMPLETION WOULD BE 12 MONTHS AFTER.

OKAY.

PERFECT.

ANY OTHER QUESTION? I CAN CAUSE THE ANSWER.

UH, WELL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, ABOUT YOUR, UH, THE INFRASTRUCTURE CONSTRUCTION THAT YOU'RE ANTICIPATING FOR WATER, SANITARY, SEPTIC, THAT KIND OF THING IN THAT AREA.

OH, THAT'S RIGHT.

TWO.

SO WE HAVE, UM, WE'RE ADDING A, A 12 INCH OFFSITE WATER, UH, LINE THAT CONNECTS TO THE CITY, UH, ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF OUR PROJECT.

UM, WE'VE ACTUALLY, THE CITY OF SEAGOVILLE CITY, I'M SORRY.

YES SIR.

CITY OF SEAGOVILLE.

UH, WE HAVE ANOTHER 16 INCH WATER LINE THAT, THAT RUNS DOWN RIGHT ALONG.

UH, I 75 ACTUALLY CONNECTS IN THE NORTH SIDE, GOES UNDER THE HIGHWAY AND THEN RUNS DOWN THE FRONTAGE ROAD, UM, A LITTLE BIT.

IT STARTS A LITTLE BIT ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE CEMETERY, AND WE'LL RUN ALL THE WAY DOWN TO OUR PROJECT.

AND THEN GOING DO NORTH FROM OUR PROJECT, WE, UH, UNDER THE HIGHWAY, WE HAVE A 24 INCH SANITARY LINE, UH, THAT RUNS UP AND CONNECTS TO THE, UM, CITY OF SEAGOVILLE SERVICE TO THE NORTH.

AND THEN WE'VE BEEN PROVIDING, UM, LINES FOR THE SANITARY AND THE WATER TO THE DIFFERENT FOLKS THAT, UH, WERE GOING THROUGH THEIR PROPERTY.

MOST OF THE LINE GOES THROUGH, UH, OR IS ADJACENT TO THE, UM,

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THEY'VE BEEN GRACIOUS TO ALLOW US TO RUN PARALLEL TO THEIR EASEMENT.

AND THEN ON THE ROADS, UH, WE'RE DOING IMPROVEMENTS TO 1389, UH, ON THE EAST.

UH, WE'LL BE DOING SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO THE FRONTAGE ROAD 1 75.

AND THEN, UM, AS WE MOVE THE TECH DOT RAMPS, UH, FURTHER TO THE WEST, UH, TO ALLOW THAT WHOLE AREA TO HAVE A BETTER QUEUE TO GET DOWN TO THE FLEA MARKET, UM, THAT KIND OF IS MOST EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING ON, ON THE ROADS.

IS, IS THIS WHOLE PROJECT INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS, OR IS IT ALL IN, I MEAN, A PORTION OF IN THE SEA LIMITS? OR IS IT IN THE INCORPORATED SEA LIMITS OF SEVILLE OR? NO, ALL IN THE CITY LIMITS.

IT'S ALL, ALL IN THE CITY.

WE HAVE, IT'S PART OF THE AGREEMENT WE HAD WITH THEM, WITH A PIT, WITH A PIT OVERLAY.

UH, WE ANNEXED INTO THE CITY.

SO WHAT ABOUT YOUR NUMBERS? OUR TERRA REQUEST, UH, OUR REQUEST, I GUESS I WOULD LOVE TO TURN IT THROUGH FOR THE TERRA REQUEST.

SURE.

IF, DON'T MIND.

GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME'S KIRK MCDANIEL WITH P THREE WORKS.

WE'RE THE TOURISM CONSULTANT AND ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE CITY OF SEAVILLE.

AND SO WE PUT TOGETHER THE ACTUAL PROJECT AND FINANCE PLAN, THE PRELIMINARY ONE, UM, AND HELPED DRAFT THE DOCUMENTS, CREATING THE TOUR.

SO THE, THE CHURCH WAS CREATED LATE LAST YEAR IN NOVEMBER, UM, AFTER THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE, WITH MEGA TELL, AND THE DEVELOPER TEAM WAS APPROVED.

AND SO IN THAT, UM, WE MODELED OUT WHAT THE CITY WOULD PARTICIPATE AT, WHICH IS 70%.

AND THEN WE MODELED OUT KAUFMAN COUNTY PARTICIPATING AT 50%.

AND SO THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE WHAT OUR REQUEST IS OF THE COUNTY.

UM, THAT WOULD BE ABOUT 59 MILLION OVER THE LIFE OF THE ZONE OVER THE 40 YEAR LIFE OF THE ZONE, AND IT WOULD FUND PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS.

YOU ANYBODY HAVE ANY MORE QUESTION? SO I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY TODAY WE'RE JUST ON THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION, BUT, UH, I THINK, UH, TYPICALLY WE'D LIKE TO SEE A SCHEDULE, UH, YOU KNOW, OF THE, OF THE TERMS OF FINANCING.

UH, MAYBE YOU GUYS COULD PUT THAT TOGETHER AND EITHER SEND IT, UH, YOU CAN SEND IT TO ME AND I CAN DISTRIBUTE IT OR YOU COULD SEND IT TO ALL OF US.

UH, AND THEN, UH, THAT'LL, I, I THINK THAT'LL BE ENOUGH INFORMATION FOR THE COURT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A DECISION ON THE COUNTY'S PARTICIPATION.

EXCELLENT.

WE CAN ABSOLUTELY DO THAT.

OKAY.

OF COURSE, TRADITIONALLY WE HAVE MEMBERS ON THE TAR BOARD AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

THAT'S ALL IN THE BY PART.

YES, SIR.

THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE PARTICIPATION AGREEMENT THAT WOULD BE APPROVED.

SO THERE'S LANGUAGE IN THE CREATION ORDINANCE, ACCOUNTING FOR THAT.

SO IF YOU GUYS DID PARTICIPATE, YOU WOULD GET A MEMBER ON THE BOARD? A MEMBER? NO, I DON'T THINK WE DO.

A MEMBER, I THINK Y'ALL HAVE IT IN THE, THE DRAFT AGREEMENTS OF TWO MEMBERS.

TWO MEMBERS.

HAS COUNCIL SEEN THE JUROR DOCUMENTS? YES, SIR.

COUNCIL'S SEEN THEM AND APPROVE THEM.

NO, NOT OUR COUNCIL.

OUR COUNCIL.

OH, I APOLOGIZE.

HE'S TALKING ABOUT HE THOUGHT YOU TALKING ABOUT CITY COUNCIL? YEAH, I JUST, THAT'S ALRIGHT.

NO, WE KNOW OURS HAVEN'T SEEN ANYWAY.

OF COURSE WE'D HAVE TO SEE ALL THAT FIRST BEFORE AND THE DAYS OF PRESENTATION WAS SO, YOU KNOW, GOOD THING YOU BROUGHT TO MAGAZINE.

, .

ANYWAY.

ALRIGHTY.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR, OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU, SIR.

NICE FOR Y'ALL.

LET SHOW UP.

ALL RIGHT.

SO ANYWAY, THERE'S NO ACTION BEING TAKEN ON THAT.

THAT'S JUST FOR PRESENTATION AND WE'RE GONNA GO TO

[8. Commissioner Cates; Discuss/Consider approving an interlocal agreement and project agreement with Kemp ISD to temporarily repair the entrance at the primary school.]

YEAH, WE'VE, UH, EMAILED THE DOCUMENTS, UH, IN THE AGENDA PACKET EARLIER.

THAT'S JUST A TYPICAL INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT TO HELP OUT THE KEMP ISD.

THEY, THE, UH, ENTRANCE TO THEIR PRIMARY SCHOOL IS IN SERIOUS DISREPAIR AND, UH, REALLY EXCEEDS THEIR ABILITY TO FIX IT THEMSELVES.

SO WE HAVE A PROJECT AGREEMENT AND ESTIMATED COST OF $5,000 THAT, UH,

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LIKE TO INITIATE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D MAKE A, UH, I PROPOSE THAT WE APPROVE THIS AS WRITTEN TO, UH, ENTER INTO THIS INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT AND PROJECT AGREEMENT WITH KEMP ISD.

ALRIGHTY, WELL, I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE INNER LOCAL AGREEMENT AND PROJECT AGREEMENT FROM COMMISSIONER KATES.

DO I HEAR A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

I HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER HUNT.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

NO.

AND THE MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, NUMBER NINE

[9. Teressa Floyd; Discuss/Consider approving a contract for the Crossroads Northwest Public Improvement District (City of Terrell).]

THEY'RE DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING THE CONTRACT FOR CROSSROADS NORTHWEST PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT AND THE CITY OF TERELL.

YES.

SO WE JUST NEED TO SEE IF YOU GUYS WILL APPROVE US GOING INTO A CONTRACT WITH CROSSROADS NORTHWEST PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT SO THAT WE CAN COLLECT THEIR, THEIR, UH, TAXES.

ALL RIGHT.

AND THEY'RE GONNA ENTER INTO THE SAME AGREEMENT.

SAME A PAY? YES.

ALL RIGHT.

YES, SIR.

WELL, ARE THEY GONNA SEND A REPRESENTATIVE TO SIT BY ON THE COUNTER WHEN PEOPLE PAY THEIR TAXES? NO, THAT WOULD BE US ALL I KNOW.

THAT'S RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

ALRIGHTY.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

ALL RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER BARBER MAKES THE MOTION.

DO I HEAR A SECOND? SECOND HERE.

A SECOND.

FROM COMMISSIONER KATES.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT.

HAVE A GOOD DAY.

HAVE A GOOD DAY.

NUMBER

[10. Bobby Bridges; To present construction updates for the Justice Center and Pet Adoption Center. ]

ALL RIGHT.

GOOD MORNING, COMMISSION A, UM, WE'RE HERE TODAY TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE JUSTICE CENTER AND WHERE IT'S AT AND TIMELINES AND STUFF LIKE THAT AS WELL, BUT ALSO TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE, THE PET ADOPTION CENTER.

SOME OF YOU MAY NOT KNOW, BUT WE'VE HAD SOME, SOME PLUMBING ISSUES OVER THERE.

UH, SOME DRAIN PIPES ON THE, THE SINKS ARE STARTING TO BREAK OFF IN THE WALLS.

UH, SO BEEN SOME FOUNDATION ISSUES GOING ON THERE.

MR. GREG, HERE'S, HE'S WITH, UH, GALLAGHER, AND HE'LL GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THAT AS WELL.

SO, ALL RIGHT.

GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS.

GOOD MORNING.

UH, ON THE PET CENTER, AS HE SAID THAT SOMETHING THAT JUST CAME UP RECENTLY, UM, SUSPECT IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A LITTLE, LITTLE BIT OF MOVEMENT OF THE SOIL FROM THE RAINS WE HAVE, BUT I DON'T KNOW.

UH, THEY'RE WORKING ON THE PLUMBER'S, WORKING ON FIXING THEM, RIGHT.

TAKING CARE OF THE ISSUE.

AND WE'VE REACHED OUT TO THE MANUFACTURER OF THE, UH, VOID SYSTEM THAT THE BOXES OR THE SYSTEM THAT SUPPORTS THAT PLUMBING THAT'S UNDER IT BECAUSE OF THE GROUND.

AND THEY'RE LOOKING INTO IT RIGHT NOW, SEEING IF THEY CAN GIVE US A REASON WHAT HAPPENED.

SO I DON'T HAVE A FIRM ANSWER, BUT I, THEY HAVE JUST OUT TO 'EM ON IT.

SO, YOU KNOW, AND MY HOPE IS THAT, THAT WE DO THIS WEEKLY, HAVE UPDATES ON THE, WHERE WE'RE AT SINCE WE'RE GETTING SO CLOSE TO COMPLETION AND THE PET ADOPTION CENTER THAT WHENEVER YOU DO FIND AN ANSWER TO THAT, THAT YOU WILL PASS IT ON US.

OKAY.

YOU KNOW, AND AND THE RESOLUTION TO THAT.

OKAY.

BUT YEAH, LIKE I SAID, THEY'VE REACHED OUT TO THE COMPANY, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S, FIRST SUSPECT IS THE LENGTHY DRYNESS WE'VE HAD AND THEN THE TORRENTIAL RAIN WE HAD.

BUT I, AGAIN, THERE'S NOTHING FIRM ON THAT.

NO.

THAT'S JUST KIND OF PRELIMINARY WITH KIND OF DISCUSSION.

I DON'T HAVE TO DO A LOT OF TUNNEL IN THE FIX THERE.

NO, IT'S, IT'S REALLY NOT.

IT'S, I MEAN THERE, IT'S EVERYTHING ABOVE IT'S PLUMBERS.

IT'S HAD TO OPEN UP THE WALL AND JUST ADJUST THE PIPE A LITTLE BIT.

SO.

OKAY.

AND ONE OF THE TOILET FLANGES WAS SLIGHTLY LIFTED OFF THE FLOOR, SO IT DOESN'T APPEAR ANYTHING ELSE WITHIN THE BUILDING THAT WE'VE SEEN.

OKAY.

IS MOVED.

SO HOPEFULLY IT'S ISOLATED INCIDENT WHICH, AND THERE.

AND SO IS THERE ANY UPDATE ON THE UH, UH, JUSTICE CENTER THAT YOU WANNA SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC OR ANYTHING? YES.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRACKING ALONG WITH NEXT COUPLE WEEKS, MOST OF THE INTERIOR FINISHES ARE GONNA BE WRAPPING UP.

IF YOU'VE DRIVEN BY THERE, YOU'LL SEE THE LANDSCAPINGS GOING IN.

WE'VE PRETTY MUCH GOT THE MAJORITY OF THE OUTSIDE CONCRETE WORK DONE.

SO IT'S A LOT OF THE IN OUTSIDE FINISHES ARE GONNA BE WRAPPING UP HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS ALSO.

UM, BUT WE ARE EXPERIENCING SOME MATERIAL ISSUES.

A COUPLE OF BIG THINGS IS THE, UM, I'M GET MY LIST OUT HERE.

DEPEND WHEN YOU PULL OUT A LIST NOW ? NO, I JUST, THE BIGGEST THING IS THE SOUND, THE SOUND DOORS THAT GO ON.

ALL THE COURTROOM, ALL THE JUDGES, ALL THE JURY DELIBERATION ROOMS, EVERYTHING.

UM, THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE HERE IN AUGUST AND EVERY TIME THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE HERE, I GET A NOTICE THAT THEY'RE DELAYED.

IT HAS TO DO WITH ALL THE MATERIAL ISSUES THAT EVERYBODY'S EXPERIENCING RIGHT NOW.

OUR LATEST UPDATE IS, AND I'VE GOT THIS JUST END, THE LAST WEEK WAS OCTOBER 14TH SHIP DATE.

BUT, AND ALL HONESTY, UNTIL THEY

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I DON'T BELIEVE IT.

WELL, I CAN'T, I CAN'T, I CAN'T, I CAN'T RELY A HUNDRED PERCENT ON IT.

NO, YOU JUST BELIEVE IT WHEN THEY GET HERE.

YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.

SO WE'RE EXPERIENCING THAT COUPLE OTHER, UH, THERE'S A BIG FANCY WOOD WALL ARCHITECTURAL PIECE THAT GOES IN THE FRONT OF THE LOBBY THAT CAME FROM CANADA.

IT CAME IN DAMAGED.

SO THEY WERE TRYING TO REBUILD IT QUICKLY AND HOPEFULLY WE'RE GONNA HAVE IT HERE ABOUT THIRD WEEK OF OCTOBER 3RD TO FOURTH WEEK OF OCTOBER.

AND THEN THE COURTROOM BENCHES ALSO, UH, WHEN THE COUNTY ORDERED THEM, THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE ORIGINALLY BE READY ABOUT THIS TIME.

RIGHT NOW THEY'RE GONNA BE READY TOWARD THE END OF OCTOBER ALSO, IS WHAT THE LAST EMAIL I GOT.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT ON THAT.

UM, UH, COUPLE OTHER MINOR THINGS, BUT THAT'S THE MAJOR STUFF THAT'S REALLY IMPACTING THE BUILDING.

SO I GUESS, I GUESS THE BIGGEST QUESTION IS, ARE WE GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE WE NEED TO PUSH BACK OUR MOVE DATE OR SOMETHING LIKE THIS? CUZ IF WE DON'T HAVE, IF WE DON'T HAVE DOORS AND WE DON'T HAVE, YOU DON'T HAVE A BUILDING AND YOU DON'T HAVE A BUILDING, YOU DON'T HAVE WAYS TO DO THE COURTROOM AND YOU GOTTA RESCHEDULE MOVERS AND ALL THIS HAS GOT LOGISTICALLY KIND OF A LITTLE MONEY THERE.

NO, I'M, I'M A HUNDRED PERCENT.

WE TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT LAST WEEK IN OUR WEEKLY MEETING AT THE JOB SITE, I GUESS, I GUESS, UH, I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, UM, COURSE THIS IS JUST A UPDATES, SO I MEAN, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S GONNA FIGURE THIS OUT, I THINK.

YEAH.

WE'LL HAVE, HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY REALLY QUICK LIKE IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS BECAUSE I KNOW, I DON'T KNOW YOU'VE GOT ANY ANSWERS ON WHEN WE HAVE TO NOTIFY THE MOVERS AND BE ABLE TO RESCHEDULE, UH, OBVIOUSLY THE SOONER THE BETTER WITH RELOCATING MEAN MOVING THE MOVE DATE, RIGHT.

MOVERS.

YEAH.

BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT LOTS OF STUFF THAT WE'VE GOTTA, WELL I KNOW I HEAR ABOUT THE HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF FILE BOXES AND THE DIFFERENT THINGS AND, AND OF COURSE THEY'RE GONNA SHUT DOWN THE COURTS AND THEN THEY EXPECT TO OPEN 'EM BACK UP, SO.

RIGHT.

IT'S BEGINNING TO BE A REAL CRITICAL ISSUE HERE.

WELL, I, I JUST, YOU KNOW, THE MAIN THING IS, IS WE WANTED DONE RIGHT.

EVEN IF WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE PLANS AND WE DON'T GET IN UNTIL EVEN THE 1ST OF NOVEMBER, I WOULD RATHER IT BE DONE RIGHT.

AND NOT HAVE ANY LONG TERM PROBLEMS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

YEAH.

AND JUST GET IT DONE AND THEN WE MOVE IN AND HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY'S REALLY HAPPY.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S MY ONLY TWO BITS IN THE WHOLE DEAL.

YEAH.

LOGISTICALLY REALLY IT'S YOUR E YOU KNOW, YOUR GUESS WORK ABOUT WHEN YOU CAN GET THIS STUFF DONE AFTER YOU GET IT AFTER I GET IT.

YEAH.

AND THEN WORKING WITH THE MOVERS I GUESS WITH BOBBY AND TRY TO WORK OUT A TIMELINE.

AND I, I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT IT'S GONNA BE MOVED BACK.

I MEAN, I JUST DON'T SEE ANY WAY TO DO THAT.

MY, MY APPROACH IS, AS MUCH AS I HATE TO DO IT IS, IS BETTER TO DO IT NOW THAN NOT RIGHT LIFE.

SURE.

WELL IT'S LIKE THE PET ADOPTION CENTER.

I MEAN, THIS IS HEADACHES YOU REALLY DON'T NEED.

JUST YOU DONE.

SO, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.

I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, A FEW OTHER MINOR ISSUES, BUT NOTHING THAT'S LIFE THREATENING.

THIS, THIS IS SOME OF THE BIG STUFF RIGHT HERE.

SO YEAH, I CAN SEE WHERE THE DOORS WOULD BE RATHER IMPORTANT.

YEAH.

AND BENCHES FOR THE, UH, QUARTS.

.

WELL THAT, WOULD THAT BE THAT THE, THE, THE, THE ORNAMENTAL WALL, YOU KNOW, IF IT SOMETHING HAPPENS WITH IT, WE COULD MAKE SOME TYPE OF TEMPORARY ARRANGEMENT WITH THAT.

BUT THESE OTHER ITEMS ARE WHAT'S KIND OF CRITICAL FOR THE USE OF THE BUILDING.

CRITICAL.

THE BENCHES AND THE, YEAH.

AND THE DOORS WOULD BE PRETTY, WOULD BE PRETTY IMPORTANT.

SO.

WE'LL, I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.

I GUESS WE'LL TALK INTERNALLY.

I MEAN, DO WE HAVE A SUGGESTION? DOES ANYBODY HAVE A SUGGESTION HERE OUT OF THE TWO OF Y'ALL? SHOULD WE BE TALKING ABOUT RESCHEDULING IT FOR TWO WEEKS, THREE WEEKS OR FOUR WEEKS? WHATEVER IT IS.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO COME UP WITH A, OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T MAKE THAT DECISION CUZ WE'RE NOT IN Y'ALL SHOES.

BUT 30 DAYS MAKE A DIFFERENCE AS FAR AS Y'ALL'S END GO'S YOU THINK? OR YEAH, IF THE DOORS SHOW UP.

THAT'S, THAT'S MY UNFORTUNATE THING IS, IS LIKE I SAID, I COULD, THERE'S HALF A DOZEN EMAILS WHERE THEY'VE, WEEK BEFORE THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO SHIP, THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO SHIP THIS FRIDAY, WE GOT PUSHED TO NEXT FRIDAY OR LAST FRIDAY, THIS FRIDAY.

AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN NOW IT'S TWO MORE WEEKS.

AND, AND I, I'M GONNA BE HONEST, I TALKED TO TRYING TO VERIFY AND JUSTIFY IT, UH, THE EXPANSION PORTION, SAME MANUFACTURER, BUT WE'RE BUYING 'EM THROUGH DIFFERENT VENDOR THAT GOT THAT CONTRACT.

RIGHT.

AND HE SAID HE'S EXPERIENCED THIS BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE REAL HIGH SOUND RATE OF LIKE A 53 OR 55 ST RATED DOOR.

IT'S A SPECIAL CORE.

AND HE SAID HE HAD THE SAME PROBLEM ON ANOTHER PROJECT AND IT WAS THE SAME, SAME SCENARIO.

SO HE, HE KIND OF HELPED JUSTIFY THAT IT'S NOT JUST THE COMPANY WE'RE BUYING 'EM FROM, THAT IT'S ACTUALLY, IT'S THE INDUSTRY WE'RE IN.

IT'S THE WORLD.

IT'S THE WORLD WE'RE IN RIGHT

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SO, SO BASED ON THAT, YEAH, THAT'S, I, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT.

AND LIKE I SAID, I THINK FOR NOW THOUGH, I CAN'T TELL YOU COMFORTABLY, I CAN LET YOU MOVE IN CAUSE IT WON'T BE USABLE.

WELL, I, I APPRECIATE YOUR HONESTY.

I REALLY DO.

AND BUT YOU KNOW, WE GOTTA UNDERSTAND TOO THAT IT'S NOT JUST THE MOVERS.

I MEAN THE JUDGES NEED TO BE INVOLVED.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I MEAN, SO I GUESS MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE COMMUNICATION IS DONE CUZ WE WON AN AWARD ON COMMUNICATION.

SO WE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE REALLY GOOD AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S ON BOARD AND WE KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN AND WHEN.

SO OKAY.

WE, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE, UH, KEEP THE INVOLVED IN THAT.

CAUSE HE'S WORKING WITH SMITH ON MOVING ALL THE COUNTY STUFF AND I THINK HE'S, THEY'RE ALREADY COMING OUT.

THEY'RE ACTUALLY, THEY'RE COMING OUT TODAY.

JUST LOOK AT THE SITE.

YEAH.

SO THEY'RE GONNA LOOK AT, SO WE NEED TO GET THEM ON BOARD CAUSE WE DON'T NEED TO MOVEMENT UNTIL WE NEED THEM.

YEAH.

I, AND ACTUALLY, OKAY.

AND I THINK Z MEANS BEING MADE IN THE NEXT COUPLE DAYS, WHETHER OR NOT YOU POSTPONE IT 15 DAYS, 30 DAYS OR WHATEVER.

AND SO THAT ALL THE LOGISTIC ON THE MOVERS AND EVERYBODY CAN BE RESCHEDULED BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA BE PAYING THROUGH THE NOSE, PAY 'EM TWICE.

OKAY.

SO CURRENTLY AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW IS THE LAST DAY FOR EMPLOYEES AT THE OLD COURTHOUSES OCTOBER 26TH.

YEAH.

UM, THE MOVERS WILL BE MOVING THE 27TH, 28TH, 29TH, 30TH, THE 31ST, THEN THE FIRST, UM, AND THEN WE'RE SUPPOSED TO OPEN UP THE JUSTICE CENTER ON THE SECOND.

RIGHT.

UM, AND THE SECOND WAS ORIGINALLY, UH, FOR THE EMPLOYEES TO RETURN BACK TO WORK, SET UP THEIR DESK, UH, THEIR AREAS.

AND THEY HAD THE 26TH, 27TH, 28TH, WHICH WAS WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY, FRIDAY.

AND THEN THAT FOLLOWING WEEKEND, THE 29TH AND THE 30TH.

AND THEN, UM, LET ME GO BACK OVER HERE.

I'M SORRY.

SO THEY HAD THE SECOND, THIRD, AND FOURTH TO, UH, ARRANGE THEIR AREAS AND THEN THE, THE SEVENTH WAS ACTUALLY THE ACTUAL OPENING DAY WAS WHAT IT WAS GONNA BE FOR, UH, THE COURTHOUSE.

SO I MEAN, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT, I MEAN, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE THINKING.

I MEAN, MAYBE THE END OF OCTOBER, I MEAN NOVEMBER TIMEFRAME.

UM, I MEAN, YEAH.

WHAT IS, LOOK AT CALENDAR, IT'S A LOT OF PRESSURE TO DO ALL THIS RIGHT HERE AND STANDING IN FRONT OF GOD AND EVERYBODY TO WELL, AND AGAIN, IT'S THE UNKNOWNS.

YES.

THAT'S IT.

SO I JUST THINK Y'ALL JUST PROBABLY DID GET BY YOURSELF AND BRAINSTORM WITHOUT ALL THE, ALL OF US STARING AT YOU WHILE YOU'RE TRYING TO THINK.

YEAH, THAT'S FINE.

I KNOW HOW THAT IS.

AND THEN, BUT WE JUST NEED THE ANSWER SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN BE COMMUNICATED WITH.

RIGHT.

YEAH.

QUICKLY.

OKAY.

UH, AS FAR AS THE REST OF THE PROJECT, THE EXPANSION GOING, WE'RE GOING UP WITH STEEL.

YEAH.

YEAH.

IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT 80% OF RIGHT NOW.

THEY'RE GONNA POUR THE SECOND FLOOR DECK I THINK A WEEK FROM MONDAY AND THEN JUST CONTINUE ON WITH IT.

BUT JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE AIR HANDLER FOR IT GOT PUSHED TILL ALMOST APRIL.

WENT FROM, WENT FROM THE TIME WE BID IT FROM A 24 WEEK LEAD OUT TO 36 WEEKS.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST CRAZY, CRAZY WORLD.

WE'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT THAT ONE AT THE MOMENT.

I KNOW, I KNOW.

AND THE SUBSTATION, WE'RE MOBILE.

WE'RE MOBILIZING, FIXED PRESCRIBING, WE'RE WORRIED ON CAUSE OF ALL THE SCHEDULING.

I KNOW, I KNOW.

YOU KNOW, WHEN WE JUST NEED THE JUDGES AND EVERYBODY TO KNOW ABOUT IT QUICKLY SO THEY CAN RESUME THEIR COURT THINGS THAT THEY HAVE TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE STILL GOING FORWARD OVER HERE WITHOUT POSTPONING SOMETHING.

OKAY.

AND IT UP WITH TWO WEEKS OR THREE WEEKS OR FOUR WEEKS FROM NO COURTS.

YEAH, THEY CAN CONTINUE AS THEY ARE RIGHT NOW.

YOU, I MEAN IT WOULDN'T, IT WOULDN'T BE GOOD TO PUT 'EM THAT FAR BACK ON THEIR DOCKETS.

NO, NO, NO, NO.

OKAY.

THAT'S WHY I SAID COMMUNI COMMUNICATING IT NOW.

SO IT COULD BE PLANNED FOR IT.

THIS A THIS WOULD BE THE TIME OF ME DOING IT.

YEAH.

WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IT'S A COUPLE OF DAYS.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.

YOU MADE A GOOD POINT, MIKE, THAT UH, SINCE THIS IS A BIG CRITICAL ISSUE THAT, UH, UH, ADDRESSES REALLY THE WHOLE JUSTICE SYSTEM OF THIS COUNTY.

YES.

RIGHT.

UH, MAY MAYBE WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND JUST, UH, PREPLAN TO HAVE AN UPDATE AT LEAST EVERY WEEK UNTIL WE GET THIS ALL DONE.

YES, SIR.

UM, AND, AND AT THE SAME TIME, I, I WOULD JUST, UH, SEPARATE FROM THE NEW BUILDING I'D, I'D BE INTERESTED IN, IN, UH, UH, UPDATES ON ALL, ALL YOUR PROJECTS ON, ON THE, WHERE WE ARE IN RENOVATIONS, UH, ROOF ISSUES, ALL OF THAT.

I, I THINK THAT WE'RE COMING INTO THAT SEASON AND IT'D BE, IT'D BE VERY BENEFICIAL TO, TO HEAR, UH, WHERE FACILITIES IS AND WHAT THE NEEDS ARE SINCE WE'RE GONNA HAVE THESE UPDATES ANYWAY.