Oct 11, 2022 Commissioners Court

YOU COME TO OUR CENTERS, UM, THEY, UH, YOU CAN COME TO THAT, UH, THE SAMUEL GRAND RECREATION CENTER.

MORNING.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

SO I'M JUST GONNA TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT, UH, THAT IT WAS DECLARED AN AGENCY DECLARATION.

UM, AND THAT WAS FROM GOVERNOR ABBOTT.

SO IT WAS DALLAS COUNTY AND THE SURROUNDING COUNTIES, WHICH IS INCLUDING KAUFMAN.

AND THIS WAS FROM THE O AUGUST 22ND THROUGH THE 25TH FLOODING AND SEVERE STORMS. SO, UH, FOR, FOR HOME LOANS, WE OFFER LOW INTEREST GOVERNMENT LOANS FOR BUSINESS OF ALL SIZES, HOMEOWNERS, RENTERS, AND NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS, INCLUDING PLACES AT WORSHIP.

UH, SO WE'RE OFFERING, UH, FOR HOME LOANS, WE OFFER UP TO $200,000 TO REPAIR PLACE OF PHYSICAL DAMAGE TO YOUR HOME AND UP TO $40,000 FOR PERSONAL PROPERTY.

AND YOUR PRIMARY CAR, WHICH A LOT OF CARS HAVE BEEN AFFECTED, THIS HAVE BEEN COMING TO OUR CENTERS.

UM, AND THIS IS WHERE THE RENTERS COME IN.

THEY CAN GET UP TO $40,000 FOR PERSONAL PROPERTY AND THE, UM, UH, PRIMARY CAR AND BASICALLY HAS TO BE YOUR PRIMARY RESIDENCE.

JUST LET YOU KNOW ON THAT.

UH, FOR BUSINESSES, WE OFFER UP $2 MILLION TO REPAIR PLACE.

ALSO, PHYSICAL DAMAGE, MACHINERY, EQUIPMENT, INVENTORY, ANYTHING THAT WAS AFFECTED.

AND UP TO $2 MILLION FOR, UM, IT'S A WORKING CAPITAL ON CALL, THE ECONOMIC INJURY DISASTER.

SO IF YOU WERE CLOSED DURING THAT TIMELINE OF AUGUST 22ND THROUGH THE 25TH AND SUFFERED ANY TYPE OF ECONOMIC LOSS, UM, YOU, YOU CAN RECEIVE THIS WORKING CAPITAL LAW.

AND THIS IS ALSO FOR THE NONPROFITS, UP TO 2 MILLION FOR, UH, BIT PHYSICAL DAMAGE, AND THEN UP TO 2 MILLION FOR THE WORK.

UH, THE WORKING CAPITAL LAW, WHICH IS ECONOMIC INJURY DISASTER LAW.

THE DEADLINE IS FOR, UM, PHYSICAL DAMAGE OR LOANS IS NOVEMBER 14TH OF THIS YEAR.

AND THEN THE ECONOMIC INJURY DISASTER IS, UH, JUNE 14TH OF NEXT YEAR.

UH, THE INTEREST RATES FOR HOME LOANS AS LOW AS 2.18%, UH, FOR BUSINESSES AS LOW AS THREE, UH, 3.04.

AND THEN FOR NONPROFITS AS LOW AS 1.87, THEY'RE UP TO 30 YEARS COVERED DEDUCTIBLES.

THERE'S NO CLOSING COSTS ON THESE LOANS.

SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF, YOU KNOW, JUST SEE WHAT YOUR OPTIONS ARE.

IF YOU DO NEED THEM, YOU KNOW, IT BECOMES AN OPTION.

AND IF YOU, YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T NOT OBLIGATED TO ACCEPT THE LAW, JUST SEE WHAT YOUR OPTIONS ARE IF YOU DO REALLY NEED IT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE FOR, UM, THERE'S THREE WAYS TO APPLY.

YOU CAN JUST, THEN, THIS IS BASICALLY, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT THIS COVERS THE UNINSURED IN THE UNDERINSURED LOSSES.

SO, UM, THERE'S, YOU CAN JUST APPLY AT, UH, DISASTER LOAN ASSISTANCE.SBA.GOV.

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THERE'S ONE THERE, WHICH IS A GAMER, 1 12 6200 EAST GRAND AVENUE.

THAT'S MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, NINE TO 6:00 PM AND SATURDAY 9:00 AM TO 2:00 PM AND THERE'S BOX SPRINGS, WHICH IS A RECREATION DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS THE MEETING ROOM.

AND THAT'S MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 9:00 AM TO 6:00 PM AND THEN SATURDAY, NINE 9:00 AM TO 2:00 PM.

SO THIS IS TO GIVE YOU THAT ONE ON ONE.

AND IF YOU ARE DECLINED, THERE'S RECONSIDERATION, YOU HAVE THAT OPTION, THAT OPTION THERE.

YOU CAN ASK ALL YOUR QUESTIONS THERE.

UH, BUT, UH, THAT'S, AND THIS WILL BE ALSO HAVE A WEDDING 800 NUMBER, WHICH IS A CUSTOMER SERVICE, WHICH IS 1 806 5 9 2 9 5 5.

SO THAT'S ALL I WANT TO LET YOU INFORM.

AT LEAST INFORM LEAST THE CENTERS AS ARE THERE.

THERE ARE BILINGUAL, IF ANYONE HAS PROBLEMS, UH, THEY SPEAK SPANISH AS WELL, IF YOU HAVE A SPANISH COMMUNITY.

BUT YEAH, WE'RE HERE TO ACCOMMODATE EVERYBODY AND THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, AND I WOULD, UH, VOLUNTEER THE, UH, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT TO ASSIST ANYBODY THAT IF, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF YOU HEAR ABOUT SOMEBODY HEARS ABOUT THIS AND THEY, THEY'RE NOT SURE WHAT TO DO, OR THEY, THEY'VE LO THEY DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER OR WHATEVER, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT WOULD BE HAPPY TO HELP 'EM HERE IN THAT COUNTY.

US TO ITEM TWO ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS A CONSENTED AGENDA.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE TO SHARE? THANK YOU.

UH, OKAY, THEN THAT BRINGS

[2. CONSENT AGENDA]

LONG ONE TODAY, IT, UH, A THROUGH F UH, WOULD EITHER OF YOU GENTLEMEN CARE TO PULL ONE OF THOSE ITEMS OFF FOR INDIVIDUAL DISCUSSION? NO, SIR.

I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

IF NOT, THEN IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA S PRESENTED? OH, THAT MOTION? OKAY.

WE HAVE THAT MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR OF SIGNIFY THE SAYING.

UH, NEXT UP, ITEM THREE, GLEN SILVA DISCUSSED, CONSIDER APPROVING A RESOLUTION OF INTENT TO ESTABLISH THE KAUFMAN COUNTY PROPERTY ASSESSED CLEAN ENERGY PROGRAM.

THOSE OPPOSE? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

[3. Glenn Silva; Discuss/consider approving a Resolution of Intent to Establish the Kaufman County Property Assessed Clean Energy ("PACE") Program).]

GOOD MORNING, GLEN.

NICE TO HAVE YOU BACK.

GOOD MORNING, JUDGE COMMISSIONERS.

HOW ARE Y'ALL TODAY? GOOD.

GOOD, GOOD, GOOD.

WELL, LISTEN, I'M SO HAPPY TO BE HERE.

I'M GLEN SILVA, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER OFFICER FOR LONESTAR PACE.

LONESTAR PACE IS AN ADMINISTRATOR FOR COUNTIES AND CITIES THAT ACTUALLY ADOPT THE PACE PROGRAM.

WE ARE YOUR ARMS AND LEGS THAT SERVE YOU IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE THE ASSESSMENTS ARE FILED PROPERLY, MAKING SURE THE PRO PROGRAM IS, IS, UH, WORKING GREAT FOR YOU.

I'M HERE TODAY IN SUPPORT OF THE RESOLUTION OF INTENT FOR THE PROPERTY, SAYS CLEAN ENERGY PROGRAM.

IT IS AN WONDERFUL ECONOMIC TOOL TO FINANCE.

UH, AND IT'S A VERY SIMPLE WAY TO FINANCE ANY TYPE OF UPGRADE ON COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE THAT SAVES ON ENERGY CONSERVATION, WATER CONSERVATION, OR RENEWABLE ENERGY COMPONENTS.

WE'RE TELLING PEOPLE IN THE COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE MARKET THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE DEALING WITH HEADWINDS LIKE, UH, SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES, INCREASED, UH, CONSTRUCTION COSTS, LABOR COSTS, PACES, A WAY TO HELP THEM FINANCE THESE COMPONENTS AND GET THEIR DEAL, YOU KNOW, OVER THE TRANSOM, GET IT DONE.

SO IT'S A TERRIFIC TOOL FOR THE COUNTY AND CITY TO MEET YOUR SUSTAINABILITY GOALS IN TERMS OF WATER CONSERVATION, ENERGY CONSERVATION.

I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE MOVING TO TEXAS.

THEY'RE NOT BRINGING THEIR WATER AND ENERGY WITH THEM.

THIS IS A SMART WAY TO MEET THOSE GOALS.

SO, WITH THAT ANSWER, ANY QUESTIONS, SIR? WELL, THANK YOU.

WE OF COURSE, WE, WE HAD A PRETTY EXTENSIVE BRIEFING FROM YOU EARLIER ON THIS INITIALLY.

UH, DOES ANYONE HAVE I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.

DOES ANYONE? I WOULD MAKE THE COMMENT THAT IT DOESN'T, IT, THIS IS NOT A PROGRAM THAT COST THE COUNTY ANY MONEY.

IT JUST OPENS UP AVENUES FOR OUR BUSINESSES IN, IN THE COUNTY.

YES, SIR.

YEP.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PROGRAM? NO, I DON'T.

THEN, UH, I WOULD, UH, ASK IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION OF INTENT TO ESTABLISH THE KAUFMAN COUNTY PROPERTY ASSESS CLEAN ENERGY KNOWN AS PACE PROGRAM? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WE HAD A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR OF SIGNIFY TO SAME.

FOUR, OWEN CAN TRAIL DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE OPERATIONS IN MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT LOWER EAST FOR LATERALS, WATERSHED, KAUFMAN COUNTY, TEXAS FOR REHABILITATION, FLOODWATER RETARDING STRUCTURES.

THOSE OPPOSE? NO.

WELL, THERE'S NOBODY TO OPPOSE THAT MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

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[4. Owen Cantrell; Discuss/Consider approval of the operations and maintenance agreement lower east fork laterals watershed Kaufman County, Texas for rehabilitated floodwater retarding structure 10. ]

WHEN WE HAD THE FLOODING DOWN, WHICH, WHEN ALL THIS STARTED, THIS IS, UH, ONE OF TWO FEDERAL REHABS THAT'S IN THE PROCESS.

GOOD MORNING, OWEN.

AS Y'ALL KNOW, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT'S BEEN GOING ON SINCE 2016

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AND WHAT THEY, ONE, WHAT NRCS HAS COME UP, WHICH NRCS NATURAL RESOURCES CONSERVATION SERVICE, AND THEY WANT TO DO A NEW ON AND M AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE NRCS AND THE SPONSORS, WHICH THE SOIL WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT IS A SPONSOR AND THE COUNTY IS A SPONSOR.

UH, THE DISTRICT SOIL WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT SIGNED OFF ON THIS LAST WEEK AT THEIR BOARD MEETING.

AND I'M HERE TO PRESENT THIS TO Y'ALL TO TRY TO SEE IF Y'ALL WILL SIGN OFF ON IT ALSO.

AND THEN IT WILL GO BACK TO NRCS.

THEY WILL SIGN OFF ON IT, AND THEN EVERYBODY WILL GET THE, THE FINISHED SIGN COPIES.

SO THIS, AND BASICALLY THIS IS A, UH, KIND OF A BASIC, UH, ON AND M AGREEMENT, BUT IT'S, UH, SUPERSEDES THE GENERAL AGREEMENT THAT WAS, GOES BACK TO 1960.

AND THIS ONE IS SITE SPECIFIC.

IT IS STRICTLY FOR THIS ONE SIDE ONLY.

AND LIKE I SAY, IT IS BA IT'S A BASIC, UH, ONM AGREEMENT STATES WHAT THE SPONSORS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR, WHAT NRCS IS RESPONSIBLE FOR.

UH, THERE IS A A DOLLAR AMOUNT THEY, THAT THEY HAD PUT ON HERE FOR ESTIMATED O AND M COST, WHICH I THINK WAS $3,000.

UH, IN THIS IT SAYS THAT THEY WANT TO, UH, A SEPARATE FUND, BUT SINCE THE COUNTY ALREADY HAS A FUND SET UP FOR O AND M ON ALL THE SITES TOGETHER, THAT CAN BE ENCOMPASSED IN THAT SAME INCLUDED IN THAT SAME, YOU WON'T HAVE TO SET UP A SEPARATE POLICY OR A SEPARATE FUND FOR THAT ONE SITE.

ANY, UH, SO SO WHAT'S THE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE OR WHY DID THEY WANT TO DO A SPECIFIC ONE FOR THIS ONE SITE? UM, THE MAIN THING IS IT'S GOING TO, WHEN THEY DO THE FEDERAL REHAB, IT WILL EXTEND THE LIFE OF THIS SITE TO 100 YEARS.

THE ORIGINAL, WHEN THESE SITES WERE ORIGINALLY BUILT, THEY HAD A 50 YEAR LIFESPAN, WHICH THIS SITE IS ALMOST 70 YEARS OLD.

IT WAS BUILT IN 1954.

AND, UH, IT HAS SOME SPECIFIC ITEMS, UH, ON THIS SITE THAT IS GONNA BE UNIQUE TO THIS DAM ONLY.

BIG DIFFERENCE, BIG DIFFERENCE.

THAT WILL NOT BE ON ANY OTHERS.

ONE OF THEM IS THE CONCRETE.

THERE'S A GONNA BE A CONCRETE LAP, WHAT THEY CALL A LAP.

WE SPILLWAY, WHICH IS A KIND OF AN ACCORDION SPILL WAY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAM ALONG WITH THE EARTH AND SPILLWAY.

UH, THERE WILL INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE OUTFLOW PIPE.

NOW IT HAS A 15 INCH PIPE IN IT.

IT WILL THEN HAVE A 48 INCH PIPE.

UH, HOPEFULLY THIS, THIS WILL ELIMINATE ANY FUTURE FLOODING WE'VE HAD ON THIS.

AND WE CONTINUOUS HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THIS SITE.

EVEN TODAY WE HAVE SIPHON PIPES SET UP ON IT THAT I HAVE TO START.

ANYTIME WE GET A BIG RAIN EVENT, I HAVE TO START THESE SIPHON PIPES TO TRY TO GET THE WATER DOWN CUZ THERE'S SOME ISSUES WITH THE DAM ITSELF.

SO YEAH.

AND ALL THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED IN THE CONSTRUCTION.

WHERE IS, UH, STRUCTURE 10 AT? UH, THIS IS LOCATED IN THE WARSAW COMMUNITY.

OH MY, MATTER OF FACT, IT IS RIGHT BEHIND THE WARSAW COMMUNITY CENTER.

UH, IT'S RIGHT IN THE, WE'RE 1 48.

MAKES THAT 90 DEGREE THEN.

YEP, IT'S RIGHT THERE.

UM, ANOTHER COUPLE THINGS I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS ALSO ABOUT THIS SITE, UH, BEFORE ANY CONSTRUCTION CAN TAKE PLACE ON IT.

UH, E EAP EMERGENCY ACTION PLAN HAS TO BE IN EFFECT.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE COUNTY IS IN THE PROCESS OF UPGRADING TO DO A KIND OF A BLANKET EAP TO COVER ALL THESE SITES AND THEN HAVE A AMENDMENT THAT WILL COVER EACH SITE SPECIFIC.

DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT, STEVE? YES, SIR.

I THINK I'LL HAVE A OUTSIDE FIRM HIRED THAT'S DOING THIS ALSO.

UH, WE HAVE TO HAVE A, AN ATTORNEY'S OPINION AS TO THE VALIDITY OF THE EASEMENTS.

I CARRIED, I GAVE JACK THIS, UH, LIKE WHAT, A COUPLE DAYS AGO I TOOK, TOOK HIM THAT AND, UH, BEFORE WE HAD TO DO THIS ON THE PROJECT THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW AT CRANDLE, THE UPGRADE THAT THEY'RE DOING, WE HAD TO DO THIS AND

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ALL THAT.

WENT THROUGH RAILING, HANDLED ALL THAT.

AND THEY FOUND AN ATTORNEY, I BELIEVE IN ELLIS COUNTY THAT, UH, WOULD SIGN OFF.

AND I THINK HE'S A REAL ESTATE ATTORNEY THAT IS SIGNED OFF ON IT.

WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT HIM, AND THEY NEED TO KNOW FOR SURE THAT THE COUNTY WILL ADMINISTER THE CONTRACTS AS THEY HAVE IN THE PAST IS THAT WOULD BE OUR PLAN, I'M SURE.

AND THE, THE COST TO THE COUNTY IS 1.75%, WHICH WILL BE COVERED.

THAT PLUS IS ADMIN FEES BACK FROM, FOR Y'ALL DOING THE ADMINISTRATIVE PART OF THE CONTRACT.

I DIDN'T EXPLAIN ALL THIS TO JA BEFORE WE AGREED TO BE THE INTERIM PURCHASING AGENT.

WELL, I, I KINDA, I KIND OF HIT HIM THE OTHER DAY WITH IT AND HE KIND OF GAVE ME THAT DEER IN THE HEADLIGHT LOOK.

ANYWAY, HOPEFULLY WE CAN WORK ALL THIS OUT.

AND THERE'S, THERE'S ONE OTHER ITEM THAT THE, WHERE YOU WERE TRYING TO GET A, IF WE CAN GET THIS COUNTY'S, UH, OR GET THE ATTORNEY OPINION ON THE EASEMENTS SIGNED, WE MAY NOT HAVE TO DO A MEETS AND BOUND SURVEY OF THE EASEMENT.

IF NOT, NRCS IS SAYING WE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO A MEETS AND BOUND SURVEY, WHICH THAT IS ALSO WOULD BE COVERED IN THE CONTRACT, IS THERE'S MONEY IN THERE FOR LAND, LAND RIGHTS AND SURVEY COULD BE UNDERCOVERED IN THE LAND RIGHTS PART OF IT.

THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT, UNLESS YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? IF NOT, THEN, UH, UH, ASKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT.

LEGAL HAS NOT HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THAT.

WELL, SORRY.

UH, THEN, UH, BEST THING FOR US TO DO WOULD PROBABLY BE TO, TO TABLE THIS ITEM UNTIL YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW IT AND WE'LL BRING IT UP ON OUR NEXT MEETING.

YOU DON'T NEED TO COME FOR THAT I DON'T THINK.

UH, NO, WE JUST NEED THEM TO LOOK AT IT.

LET'S, LET'S, I DIDN'T REALIZE IT.

SO, UH, THEY DO.

CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE ITEM FOUR? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

UH, COMMISSIONER PHYLLIS MOVES TO TABLE ITEM FOUR.

IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND.

COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSION DOES IN FAVOR SIGNIFY THE SAME.

AYE, AYE.

UP PAULA WEBER DISCUSS, CONSIDER ALLOCATION OF APA FUNDS TO RURAL WATER SYSTEMS IN KAUFMAN COUNTY.

DOES OPPOS? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

SO WE'LL SEE THAT THE NEXT MEETING.

UH, NEXT

[5. Paula Weber; Discuss/Consider allocation of ARPA funds to rural water systems in Kaufman County. ]

UH, SO I GUESS WE'LL HEAR WHAT PAUL MS. WEBER HAS TO SAY, AND THEN ANYBODY WANTS TO COME IN AND ANY OF THE FOLKS THAT WANNA COME IN AND ADD IN ON THIS ITEM WILL BRING IT UP LIKE NEXT.

JUDGE, I HAVE OTHER WATER SYSTEMS WITH ME.

DO YOU MIND IF THEY STAND WITH ME TODAY? I DON'T MIND.

RECENTLY, I OBTAINED A COPY OF THE BUDGET AND EXPENDITURES APPROVED BY THE COURT.

NO, IT'S FINE.

I GET EVERYBODY, I'M GONNA READ YOU MY STATEMENT.

I'M NOT A VERY GOOD PUBLIC SPEAKER.

SO, , FIRST OF ALL, THANK Y'ALL FOR LETTING US HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU TODAY.

OF COURSE.

I'M PAULA WEBER AND I AM THE GENERAL MANAGER OF ABEL SPRING SPECIAL UTILITY DISTRICT.

WITH ME TODAY ARE MY COLLEAGUES FROM WATER SYSTEMS THAT SERVE, UH, KAUFMAN COUNTY.

ON SEPTEMBER OF 23RD, I SENT TO YOU ALL A LETTER, UH, FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF ALLOCATING FUNDS ON THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT, ALSO REFERRED TO AS ARPA, UH, TO ASSIST RURAL WATER SYSTEMS WITH THE NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD GREATLY IMPACT THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR OUR RURAL CITIZENS.

INCLUDED WITH THE LETTER OR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT LIST FROM THE 10 RURAL WATER SYSTEMS WHO PROVIDE ESSENTIAL SERVICES TO MORE THAN HALF OF COUNTY, UH, KAUFMAN COUNTY RESIDENTS.

THESE SYSTEMS ARE WSC AND SUDS, WHICH ARE NONPROFIT AND HAVE NO TAXING AUTHORITY.

SINCE MY COLLEAGUES AND I BECAME AWARE OF UPPER MONIES BEING DISTRIBUTED TO COUNTIES NATIONWIDE, MANY OF US HAVE APPROACHED OUR COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE RICHARDS TO DISCUSS HOW THE FUNDS WOULD BE DISTRIBUTED AND TO EXPRESS OUR NEEDS AS WATER PROVIDERS.

IN THE BEGINNING, IT WAS UNKNOWN HOW THE COUNTY WOULD USE THE MONEY AND PLAN TO HIRE A CONSULTANT TO DEFINE THE DETAILS WE HAD HOPED FOR A PUBLIC MEETING OR WORKSHOP THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO BE A PART OF THE DISCUSSION.

WE WERE TOLD ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS TO WAIT, WAIT FOR THE CONSULTANT TO PRESENT THE REPORT, WAIT FOR THE SECOND HALF OF THE FUNDS COMING IN MAY 22, 22, 20 22.

WE WERE TOLD THAT THE COUNTY MAY CONSIDER GRANTS FOR A PORTION OF THE MONEY.

AND WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THE COMMISSIONERS DO NOT KNOW HOW THE MONEY WILL BE SPENT.

AND WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT THE MONEY HAS ALREADY BEEN SPENT.

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AND IT IS DISAPPOINTING TO DISCOVER THAT IT IS, IT DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY CONSIDERATION FOR WATER INFRASTRUCTURE.

OUR WATER SYSTEMS HAVE BEEN FACED WITH INCREASED COST AND MATERIALS AND SERVICES AS MUCH AS 35 TO 45%.

AND FUEL COSTS HAVE RISEN 45 TO 50%.

THESE INFLATIONARY COST LIMIT HOW WE AFFORD THE NECESSARY INF INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS IN 2021.

I WAS INVITED TO TESTIFY BEFORE THE COMMITTEE ON, ON SENATE BILL THREE, WHICH RELATED TO THE PREPARING FOR RESPONDING TO WEATHER EMERGENCIES AND POWER OUTAGES.

THE WINTER STORM UY CAUSED DAMAGE TO OUR SYSTEMS AND THE FAILING ELECTRICAL GRID COMPOUNDED THE PROBLEM WITH ROLLING BLACKOUTS AND POWER OUTAGES SURGES.

UM, NOW THAT THE BILL HAS BEEN SIGNED INTO LAW, WATER SYSTEMS ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE SOURCE OF POWER GENERATORS.

HOWEVER, THE LEGISLATORS DID NOT PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THE SUCH EXPENDITURES.

IT WAS A RELIEF TO DISCOVER THAT THE FEDERAL GUIDELINES PROVIDED USE OF APA FUNDS TO PURCHASE GENERATORS, WHICH WOULD GREATLY ASSIST WATER SYSTEMS WITH THIS UNEXPECTED EXPENSE AND COMPLIANCE ISSUE.

WE ARE ALL AWARE THAT THE OPERA FUNDS COME WITH RESTRICTIONS AND THIS COURT HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DECIDE HOW THE MONIES WILL BE SPENT.

THE FEDERAL GUIDANCE TO EXPEND FUNDS INCLUDES WATER AND WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADES AND IMPROVEMENTS.

AND THAT IS WHAT TODAY WE ASK THIS COURT TO CONSIDER REALLOCATING 30% OF THE FUNDS TO ASSIST WITH THE RURAL WATER SYSTEM FUNDING NEEDS.

IN CLOSING, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THE WATER, THAT WATER IS PARAMOUNT TO PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY WATER IS ESSENTIAL TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF OUR, OUR COMMUNITIES.

AND OUR HOPE IS WE WILL WORK TOGETHER TO ENSURE THAT OUR COMAN COUNTY CITIZENS GET THE BEST VALUE FROM THE APA FUNDS.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU.

WELL, LET'S HEAR FROM, UH, UH, JERRY PAYNE, YOU HAVE A CARD HERE THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO? YES.

I'M JERRY PAYNE.

I'M THE GENERAL MANAGER OF ELMA WATER SUPPLY CORPORATION.

I'M HERE WITH ALSO MY COLLEAGUES.

I WANNA REITERATE AND ELABORATE ON WHAT APOLOGIES SAID WITH NOT JUST THE BLACKOUTS, THE ELECTRICAL PROBLEMS, THE FLOODING AND THE FREEZING.

YOU ALSO HAVE ONGOING PROJECTS AND UPDATES AND USING KAUFMAN COUNTY CONTRACTORS.

UM, THIS FUNDING IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US.

I KNOW THERE'S QUITE A FEW OF US THAT HAVE BEEN DOING THIS AND ASKING AND CALLING YOU AN EMAILING SINCE MAY OF LAST YEAR IN HOPES THAT WE CAN TURN IN AND START THE CONTRACT PROCESS AND APPLICATION PROCESS TO GET OUR FUNDING FOR ALL THE WATER MUNICIPALITIES.

UM, I HOPE THAT Y'ALL CAN RECONSIDER SOME OF THE ALLOW BECAUSE OUR, THE KAUFMAN COUNTY IS DOING NOTHING BUT GROWING IN THE CAPACITY WITH ALL OF OUR WATER UTILITIES.

UM, SO I JUST WANT LIKE THE REST OF US TO ASK FOR RECONSIDERATION SO WE CAN HAVE SOME FUNDING TO IMPROVE OUR FACILITIES.

AND, UH, JENNY RIVERS RES.

YES, MY NAME IS, THAT'S OKAY.

MY NAME IS JENNY RIVERS.

I'M THE GENERAL MANAGER AT GASTONIA SCURRY SPECIAL UTILITY DISTRICT.

UM, ALONG WITH WHAT PAULA AND JERRY JUST SAID, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT OUR SYSTEM SPECIFICALLY IS 60 YEARS OLD.

UH, GASTONIA IS CELEBRATING ITS 60TH ANNIVERSARY THIS YEAR.

WE ARE IN DESPERATE NEED OF INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADES.

IF WE DON'T HAVE FUNDING LIKE THE A R P FUNDING, WE HAVE TO RAISE RATES, WHICH MEANS THE COMMUNITY HAS TO BEAR THE BURDEN OF PAYING FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE GROWTH.

KAUFMAN CITY, KAUFMAN COUNTY HAS EXPERIENCED UNPRECEDENTED GROWTH IN OUR STATE.

WE SIMPLY CAN'T TAX THE CURRENT COMMUNITY TO PAY FOR THE GROWTH THAT'S COMING.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TWO MAJOR DEVELOPERS, UM, SEVEN SMALL DEVELOPERS AND ONE RV PARK ASKING FOR WATER THAT WE SIMPLY DON'T HAVE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS TO EXPAND THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE NEED.

1300 UPSCALE CUSTOMIZABLE HOMES ARE PENDING GOING INTO OUR COMMUNITY, WHICH WOULD RESULT IN MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN TAX REVENUE FOR OUR COUNTY WHEN WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO GET IT TAKEN CARE OF.

THE A R P FUNDS WOULD GO A LONG WAY FOR EACH OF OUR INDIVIDUAL DISTRICTS TO IMPROVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE, TO CREATE A REGIONAL SITUATION WHERE WE CAN GET A SECONDARY WATER SOURCE DOWN HERE AND ALLEVIATE THE BURDEN.

IT'S GREETING FOR OUR CURRENT COMMUNITY.

WE DON'T WANT OUR CURRENT COMMUNITY TO HAVE TO PAY THE COST OF THE EXPANDING GROWTH.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

AND, UH, NANCY ESRI.

HI.

HI, I'M NANCY ESRI.

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I'M WITH, UH, ROSE HILL.

I'M THE GENERAL MANAGER, UM, A DISTRICT.

THIS IS BETWEEN KAUFMAN, THE CITY OF KAUFMAN AND THE CITY OF TARELL.

AND LIKE MY COLLEAGUES, WE'RE EXPERIENCING GROWTH.

WE NEED WATER AND WE NEED TO IMPROVE OUR INFRASTRUCTURE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

UM, WITHOUT THE FUNDING THAT ARA COULD BRING US, UH, WE ARE STILL MADE.

WE CAN'T, WE CANNOT PROVIDE THAT WATER, THAT ESSENTIAL SERVICE FOR THOSE PEOPLE.

SO TO ITERATE WHAT EVERYONE ELSE HAS SAID HERE TODAY, I WON'T TAKE ANY MORE OF YOUR TIME.

UM, PLEASE RECONSIDER THE ALLOCATION AND PROVIDE WHAT WE NEED.

GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS.

AND PETER ESPOSITO, ARE YOU BACK THERE, PETER? YEAH.

GOOD MORNING, JUDGE.

I JUST WANTED TO ADD, UH, MY NAME PETER ESPOSITO, BY THE WAY.

I'M THE BOARD PRESIDENT FOR YOU.

WELL, YOU GET TO THE MICROPHONE SO WE DON'T GET YELLED OUT TO THE CLERK BEATING US UP.

I'M THE WARD PRESIDENT FOR APRIL SPRING SPECIAL UTILITY DISTRICT.

I JUST WANTED TO ADD TO WHAT OUR GENERAL MANAGER SAID.

WE HAVE A OLD SYSTEM OUT THERE TOO, THAT WE HAVE BEEN VERY BUSILY TRYING TO, UH, UPGRADE.

AND OVER THE PAST YEAR TO 18 MONTHS, OUR CONSTRUCTION COSTS HAVE ALMOST GONE UP 300%.

IT'S COSTING US ALMOST THREE TIMES AS MUCH RIGHT NOW TO PUT A LINE IN THE GROUND AS A DIGS 18 MONTHS AGO.

WE ALSO, OUR OUR, OUR AREA HAS A LARGE POPULATION OF RETIRED PEOPLE, FIXED INCOME PEOPLE.

AND, AND THE CONSTANT INCREASES ARE, UH, ARE ARE A HEAVY WEIGHT ON 'EM.

UM, I WOULD, I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF THE PERCENTAGE OF THIS, UH, APA MONEY THAT, THAT, UH, OUR GENERAL MANAGER WAS TALKING ABOUT.

IT, WOULD IT SURE.

HELP OUR, OUR AREA AS WELL AS ALL OF KAUFMAN COUNTY.

WERE TOLD WE WERE GONNA BE ALLOCATED $27 MILLION.

THANK ALL OF Y'ALL FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

UM, THE, IT, IT WOULD, IT WOULD TAKE A LONG TIME TO RETRACE PROBABLY ALL THE STEPS THAT WE WENT THROUGH IN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO ALLOCATE THOSE FUNDS.

BUT I WOULD HAVE TO TELL YOU, AND I, AND I KNOW THAT Y'ALL PROBABLY DON'T, YOU WOULD LIKE AN INSTANT DECISION, BUT I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVEN'T SPENT ALL THE MONEY, BUT WE HAVE, I THINK VIRTUALLY ALL OF THE MONEY IS COMMITTED AT THIS POINT.

WE HAVE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE USING THAT ON, AS YOU KNOW, WE, WE USED THAT UNDER, WE WERE TOLD THAT QUALIFIED EXPENDITURE WOULD BE FOR PROVIDING IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR FACILITIES THAT WOULD PREPARE US FOR THE NEXT, UM, PANDEMIC.

WE HAD, AS YOU I'M SURE KNOW, WE HAVE PEOPLE, UH, WE'VE HAD PEOPLE FOR YEARS THAT ARE WORKING SHOULDER TO SHOULDER, PEOPLE WORKING IN CLOSETS AND, UH, INADEQUATE VENTILATION IN OUR BUILDINGS.

UH, A LOT OF THINGS THAT PROBABLY MADE OUR WORKPLACES NOT VERY SAFE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.

AND SO WE WERE TOLD THAT, THAT THESE EXPANSIONS ON THE FACILITIES WOULD BE QUALIFIED EXPENDITURES.

AND THAT'S ALL STILL A WORKING PROCESS RIGHT NOW.

SO I WOULD SAY WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHERE WE STAND.

WE'RE EXPERIENCING THE SAME THINGS IN THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE GOING RIGHT NOW, UH, WITH THE INCREASING, UH, WITH THE DRAMATIC INCREASES IN, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS.

SO I GUESS MY OPINION WOULD BE TO SAY THAT, UH, WE HAVE TO WAIT TILL WE GET THROUGH WHAT WE'VE COMMITTED TO AND SEE WHERE WE STAND AT THE END.

THAT'S WHAT I WOULD JUST TELL YOU.

I DON'T KNOW.

YOU MENTIONED THE STEPS.

I DID A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST AND I FIND THOSE STEPS.

SO WHAT STEPS, WHERE STEPS TO DECIDE ON THE FUNDING? SO DID I SAY STEPS? I DIDN'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT DID I SAY ABOUT YOU? YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT THE, THE PROCESS THAT YOU TOOK TO GET TO THE DECISION YOU MADE, WHERE WAS THE PUBLIC MEETING TO THAT, UH, HOW, HOW WAS THE DECISION MADE WHEN THERE WAS ALREADY BONDING FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR THE JUSTICE CENTER, BUT YET THE A R P FUNDS, WHICH I HAVE ON, ON RECORD ON SEPTEMBER 21ST, 2021, YOU SAYING THAT THE JUSTICE FUND WOULD NOW BE FUNDED BY AR FUNDS, BUT THERE WAS NO INDICATION OF HOW THAT GOT THERE.

THERE WAS NO PUBLIC RECORDS, HAD NO RECORD OF THE STEPS THAT IT WAS TAKEN EXCEPT FOR A $750,000 BUDGET LINE ITEM TO A CONSULTING FIRM.

UH, AS OF ABOUT A MONTH AGO, WE HAD, WE BUDGETED $750,000 IN THE CONSULTING.

AND I WILL TELL YOU WHEN, WHEN, UH, $27 MILLION WAS, WE

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WE DID NOT HAVE THE CAPACITY IN THE COUNTY TO NAVIGATE THE TREASURY RULES AND TO UNDERSTAND THE RISK BEING, IF WE MISUSE THOSE FUNDS IN SOME WAY, WE SPENT $5 MILLION IN SOME PROJECT THAT WASN'T QUALIFIED IN THE TREASURY COULD COME BACK TO US TWO OR THREE YEARS LATER AND SAY, YOU GOTTA GIVE US OUR MONEY BACK.

IT WAS, IT WAS SCARY.

THE LAST I KNOW, AND I DON'T KNOW, THIS HAS PROBABLY BEEN A MONTH AGO, MAYBE TWO MONTHS AGO, WE HAD EXPENDED $20,000 WITH, UH, THE CONSULTANT IS ALL WE EVER SPEND, WE I HAVE THE BUDGET.

YEAH, WE, WE, UH, THE QUESTION STILL REMAINS, HOW COME IF, IF YOUR WORKING CONDITIONS ARE HARD, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOU TO MY SUPERVISOR OVER THERE WHO HAS EQUALLY AS HARD WORKING CONDITIONS.

IT SPECIFICALLY STATES WATER AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

WELL, WE, UH, JUSTICE CENTER HAD IT OWN BONDING MONEY.

HOW COME THE MONEY WAS DIVERTED TO THE JUSTICE CENTER AND NOWHERE ELSE? IT, IT WAS THE, THE ALL OF OUR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS ARE USING WHERE, WHERE THE ARPA MONEY HAS QUALIFIED.

WE USE THAT TO SOME EXTENT.

GO AHEAD, MIKE.

WELL, THE, THE, THE, THE JUSTICE CENTER WAS THE BOND MONEY.

AND YOU'RE CORRECT.

BUT EARLY ON, AT THE VERY BEGINNING AS A COURT, WE OBLIGATED THE FUNDS TO THE BUILDING PROGRAM AND NOT LONG AFTER THAT WE BILLED THE JP CENTER.

IT'S NOT THE JUSTICE CENTER, IT'S NEXT TO THE JUSTICE CENTER.

IT'S AN EXPANSION.

IT'S AN EXPANSION OF THE JUSTICE CENTER AND IT'S FOR THE JPS AND STUFF LIKE THAT THAT THEY USE.

THE FIRST PAYMENT WE GOT FOR THAT.

SO IT'S NOT ACTUALLY THE JUSTICE CENTER IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

THERE'S, THERE'S TWO BUILDINGS THERE.

WHAT WERE THE BONDING MONEY FOR? IT WAS FOR THE, IT WAS FOR THE JPS IS WHY WE OBLIGATED THE FUNDS.

BONDING MONEY.

THE BONDING MONEY FOR, OH, THE BONDING MONEY WAS FOR THE JUSTICE, THE BOND, THE BOND MONEY WAS WE, UH, WHEN WE, WHEN WE WENT TO THE VOTERS FOR THE BOND, I THINK THERE WERE SEVEN POTENTIAL PROJECTS, UH, INCLUDING THE JUSTICE CENTER, UH, IN AND INCLUDING EXPANSIONS TO OUR, UH, TO OUR SUBOR HOUSES AND OTHER, THERE WERE OTHER PROJECTS.

UH, SO I, I'M GONNA ANSWER IT THIS WAY NOW.

THIS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT, THIS, I DON'T THINK THIS IS INTENDED TO BE A DEBATING SESSION.

BOTTOM LINE IS WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE WE STAND RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE ARE NOT, WE ARE A, A GOOD WAYS FROM COMPLETING THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS THAT WE COMMITTED TO DO.

WE'RE CONTRACTUALLY COMMITTED TO DO THOSE.

TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT HOW WE WENT ABOUT MAKING THAT DECISION, I AM, UH, A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE THAT WE FOLLOWED THE LAW AND THAT WE, WE DID, WE USED THE PROCESS THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO USE IN ORDER TO ALLOCATE THOSE FUNDS.

SO WHERE DO WE FIND THAT? IF IT'S NOT IN A PUBLIC RECORD, WHERE IS IT? I I, UH, EVERYTHING WE HAVE IS IN THE PUBLIC RECORD.

I'VE ASKED EVERY DECISION AND, UH, AND THE ATTORNEYS AND THEY CAN'T FIND ANYTHING.

WELL, I DON'T KNOW.

YOU CAN ADDRESS YOUR, THAT QUESTION SPECIFICALLY IF YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC QUESTION TO THE COUNTY CLERK OR THE ATTORNEYS.

BUT THIS IS NOT THE FORUM TO DO THAT.

IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT WE CAN SPEAK WITH THE CONSULTANTS AND PITCH OUR CASE THERE? UH, YOU WOULD NEED, UH, YOU, THAT'S NOT A, THAT'S NOT A DECISION THAT WE CAN MAKE RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S NOT A MATTER ON THIS AGENDA.

SO DON'T, GEORGE, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT FROM THE MOMENT ARPA FUNDS WERE SIGNED BY THE PRESIDENT, WE HAVE BEEN TALKING TO PEOPLE WANTING TO BE INCLUDED.

WE HAVE BEEN POSTPONED.

WE HAVE BEEN PUT OFF, WE HAVE BEEN TOLD ONE THING AND THEN TOLD ANOTHER.

AND I FEEL LIKE THAT WE HAVE BEEN MISLED.

WE WERE, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE INCLUDED IN THIS PROCESS.

I'VE HAD, UH, MULTIPLE INQUIRIES FROM, UH, NONPROFITS.

I'VE HAD INQUIRIES FROM SEVERAL OF OUR CITIES.

I'VE HAD INQUIRIES ABOUT FROM SOME OF OUR SCHOOLS AND OUR OTHERS WANTING US TO SPEND MONEY ON BROADBAND.

WE'VE HAD, UH, WAY MORE REQUESTS FOR APA FUNDS THAN WHAT WE COULD HAVE EVER.

EVEN, WE COULD NEVER HAVE ALLOCATED FUNDS.

AND IF WE WERE, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA OF ALLOCATING MONEY TO THE WATER SUPPLY COMPANIES, UH, 60, WHAT 60% OF THE WATER CUSTOMERS IN THE, IN THE COUNTY ARE CITY CUSTOMERS.

SO I, I WOULD THINK THE CITIES WOULD EXPECT TO GET A PART OF THAT MONEY IF, IF WE GAVE IT TO THE WATER SUPPLY COMPANIES.

WELL THAT ALL BECOMES A MOOT POINT WHEN WATER IS WHAT DRIVES EVERYTHING WITHOUT WATER, THERE'S NO GROWTH.

PRIORITY FOR THE FUNDS? THE CITY'S, THAT'S OUR FRUSTRATION.

IF WE DON'T HAVE A WATER INFRASTRUCTURE TO SERVICE THE 2000 HOMES I HAVE PENDING, SHE HAS PENDING, SHE HAS PENDING.

WE CAN'T, BROADBAND IS POINTLESS.

YOU DON'T NEED INTERNET IF YOU DON'T HAVE WATER.

WHY IS, WHY ARE WE NOT BEING TREATED AS THE PRIORITY? WHY IS THE WATER EXPANSION NOT BEING TREATED AS A

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THE CITY'S RECEIVED THEIR OWN FUNDING.

CITIES RECEIVED THEIR OWN FUNDING.

UM, I GAVE YOU THE ANSWER.

I DON'T THINK ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS WANNA SAY ANYTHING ELSE, BUT THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT.

THE ONLY THING I KNOW IS YOU CAN GO BACK IN THE COURT MINUTES AND SEE WHERE WE OBLIGATED THE FUNDS AND THERE WAS A DISCUSSION BEFORE WE VOTED.

SO, I MEAN, YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE COURT MINUTES AND FIND THE DAY THAT WE DID MAKE THE VOTE TO GET THE FUNDS FOR THE BUILDING PROGRAM.

WE'VE ALL LOOKED, IT'S THERE BECAUSE WE, WE ALL DIDN'T AGREE AND MAJORITY WINS AND YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS.

BUT THE DISCUSSION DID TAKE PLACE HERE IN COURT AND IT'S IN THE MINUTES WHERE WE OBLIGATED THE FUNDS FOR THE BUILDING PROGRAM.

AND I, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I CAN'T TELL YOU THE DATE.

I WISH I COULD, BUT I'M NOT THAT SMART.

BUT WE DID DO IT AS A COURT.

SO, OKAY.

SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON DOWN THE AGENDA.

OKAY, THAT ITEM, I'M SORRY, THAT ITEM WAS, UH, DISCUSSING CONSIDER ALLOCATED OF FUNDS.

UH, IS THERE A MOTION REGARDING THAT? HEARING NONE.

[6. Lynn Fanion; Present/Accept the Collection's Department Quarterly Report]

THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM SIX.

UH, LYNN FANON PRESENT FOR ACCEPTANCE THE COLLECTIONS DEPARTMENT QUARTERLY REPORT.

UH, OUR COLLECTIONS FOR THE THIRD QUARTER 2022, UM, WAS $283,628 AND 41 CENTS.

THAT IS, UH, DOWN 14 POINT 55% FROM THE PREVIOUS QUARTER, WHICH WAS 3 31 9 11.

AND IT'S DOWN 20% FROM THE SAME PERIOD IN 2021.

UM, BY 20%.

THAT'S BASICALLY HOW WHAT I'VE GOT.

UM, I WAS KIND OF SURPRISED IT WAS DOWN AS MUCH AS IT WAS CUZ IT SEEMED LIKE WE'D BEEN COLLECTING MORE, BUT MAYBE JUST NOT THAT MUCH.

UH, BUT WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED SOME NEW, UH, THINGS WE STARTED TEXTING, WHICH SEEMS TO BE GETTING SOME GOOD RESPONSES.

GOOD.

SO WE'RE HOPING THAT IT'LL INCREASE THIS NEXT QUARTER.

REDUCE THE TRAFFIC.

UM, DOES ANYBODY, ANY QUESTIONS FOR LYNN? NO.

IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE COLLECTIONS DEPARTMENT COURT REPORT AS PRESENTED? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WAIT, THE MOTION.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, IS THERE A SECOND? YES.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

ITEM SEVEN, SHERIFF, PRESENT FOR ACCEPTING SHERIFF'S OFFICE MONTHLY REPORT FOR JULY AND AUGUST.

THOSE NOT OPPOSED? THAT MOTION CARRIES.

[7. Sheriff; Present/Accept the Sheriff's Office monthly report for July and August 2022. ]

GOOD MORNING, JUDGE.

COMMISSIONER, HOW ARE YOU? GOOD.

UH, JUST KIND OF RUN OVER THIS REAL LIGHT AND BRIEF, UH, COVER SOME HIGH POINTS AS FAR AS JULY.

UH, IF YOU NOTICE EVERYTHING PRETTY WELL STAYED THE SAME, UH, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LOWER THIS YEAR COMPARED TO LAST YEAR.

YOU WILL, I AT, UH, COVER A PROPERTY WERE ALMOST $2 MILLION, UH, THAT WE RECOVERED IN JULY.

THE BIG THING, I THINK AS YOU SEE THE, THE NUMBERS GOING, I THINK IF YOU'LL LOOK AND SEE THAT THE, UH, COST FOR SERVICES IS UP DRAMATICALLY IN JULY.

AND YOU'LL ALSO SEE THAT IN AUGUST.

AND IF YOU'LL LOOK AT THE, THE ANIMAL CONTROL, IF YOU CAN SEE HOW MUCH IT, IT'S WENT UP ALSO, UH, FROM 4 45 LAST YEAR AT THIS TIME TO 5 97 IN JULY.

SO YOU CAN SEE SOME INCREASE.

THIS COMMERCIAL VEHICLE, YOU CAN NOTICE IT'S DOWN.

THE BIG THING IS THAT IF WE'VE HAD SOME COMMERCIAL PEOPLE PROMOTE AND MOVE ON, SO WE'RE WAITING ON DPS TO GET, WE'VE GOT SOME PEOPLE IN THE POSITIONS, BUT THEY CAN'T WAIT TRUCKS UNTIL WE GET 'EM THROUGH DPS SCHOOL AND GET IT CERTIFIED.

SO WE'RE WAITING ON THAT AND THAT SHOULD HAPPEN TO END OF DECEMBER, 1ST OF JANUARY TO SEND THEM DOWN TO AUSTIN.

SO THAT'S SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE DEALING, UH, AS FAR AS THAT.

AND THEN, UH, FAR AS MONEY RECOVER OR FAR AS MONEY AND FINANCIAL SHERIFFS DOING CIVIL BONDS, CASH BONDS AND ALL THAT, WE HIT ABOUT 44,000.

AND THAT'S ABOUT NORMAL.

WHEN YOU GET INTO AUGUST, THE SAME THING, UH, COMPARED LAST YEAR.

I THINK THE BIG THING IS YOU CAN SEE ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE A LITTLE OVER $2 MILLION IN RECOVERY.

C I D AND PATROL DIVISION DOING A GREAT JOB ON OUT THERE, RECOVERING, STOLEN PROPERTY.

BUT YOU CAN SEE CALLS FOR SERVICE FROM 72,000 UP TO 90,000 CALLS FOR SERVICE.

SO AN AVERAGE OF 275 UP TO 388 IS THE AVERAGE CALLS FOR SERVICE THAT WE'RE GETTING OUT, UH, THROUGH DISPATCH.

AND THEN THE, THE DOGS, AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE IT WAS 4 94.

WERE ALREADY AT SEVEN 60.

UH, SO THE ANIMAL IS A BIG DEAL.

I THINK WHAT WE'RE SEEING, AND WE'VE HAD SOME PEOPLE DUMPING

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THE DOG RIGHT NOW IS, IS REALLY AMAZING HOW MUCH IS GOING ON.

I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE GOT ANIMALS DURING COVID WHEN THINGS HAD SLOWED DOWN.

AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN, I THINK WITH THE PRICE OF DOG FOOD AND EVERYTHING AND MAINTAINING THEM, I THINK WE'RE SEEING THE RESULTS OF THAT.

AND THE SAME THING ON THE BACKSIDE.

UH, YOU SEE TRANSPORT, UH, ALL THAT AND GOING TO COURT.

THE NUMBERS ARE UP OR WHAT WE'RE TRANSPORTING FOR COURT.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE, THE FINANCIAL REPORT FOR THE END AUGUST IS 77,000 7 89.

BUT THAT'S KIND OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF IT.

UNLESS ANY OF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

WELL, I GUESS GOOD NEWS IS THAT THE TRANSPORT, THE COURT'S GONNA SLOW DOWN DRASTICALLY IN ANOTHER MONTH OR SO.

YEAH, IT'LL BE, IT'LL STILL BE THERE.

WE'LL BE WALKING DISTANCE.

SO THAT'LL BE, OR BAIL STAY IN A SECURE AREA.

RIGHT.

UNLESS THEY GO OUT IN COURT.

SO, ALL RIGHT.

QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE SHERIFF'S MONTHLY REPORT FOR JULY AND AUGUST AS PRESENTED? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER HUNT OR SECOND? A SECOND.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS'S DISCUSSION.

LEAVE IT.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY OF SAYING AYE.

THOSE NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES BACK

[8. Sheriff; Discuss/Consider adding a rental car for Deputy Sheriff to pick up an inmate during transport from Sheriff's Office to the airport. ]

TO THE SHERIFF.

DISCUSS, CONSIDER ADDING A RENTAL CAR FOR DEPUTY SHERIFF TO PICK UP AN INMATE DURING TRANSPORT FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO THE AIRPORT.

WELL WHAT I MIGHT HAVE TO DO IS ASK FORGIVENESS CUZ WE HAD TO RANK ONE.

I TALKED TO JACK PURCHASING CAUSE Y'ALL DIDN'T HAVE COURT LAST WEEK.

AND WE GET 10 DAY NOTICE TO GET THESE PEOPLE PICKED UP.

SO I HAVE TO GET 'EM PICKED UP.

UH, AND THIS IS WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE IS TRYING TO GET IN THE PURCHASING THAT WHERE, UH, RENTAL CARS, WE DON'T HAVE TO COME TO COURT TO GET IT FOR JUST TRANSPORTS OF PRISONERS.

UH, BECAUSE IN THAT TIMEFRAME, IF WE DON'T PICK 'EM UP IN 10 DAYS, THEN THEY WILL RELEASE 'EM.

SO WE HAD TO GO AHEAD AND GET A RENTAL CAR.

SOME HERE TO ASK FORGIVENESS.

NOW AT THIS POINT, INSTEAD OF PERMISSION, SO I MEAN, SO THIS IS WHERE SOMEBODY'S HAVING TO FLASH SOMEWHERE AND IT'LL RENT CAR, GO OUT TO THE PRISON, PICK 'EM UP, BRING THEM BACK OR THE JAIL AND BRING 'EM BACK TO DFW AND THEN FLY 'EM HERE.

HOW MUCH OF THAT DO WE, HOW MUCH OF THAT DO WE DO? SO FAR WE'VE DONE TOO.

IT JUST DEPENDS.

LIKE THIS ONE WAS A HIGH RISK INDIVIDUAL UP THERE, SO IT'S A LOT EASIER TO FLY AND IT WAS CHEAPER FROM DAKOTA, SOUTH DAKOTA.

SO IT'S CHEAPER TO FLY WHEN YOU START AVERAGING TIME.

SO YOU SEND TWO PEOPLE THOUGH, RIGHT? HUH? ON THAT ONE WE DID.

JUST CAUSE HE'S HIGH.

NORMALLY IF THEY'RE LOW, LOW RISK, NOT A BIG PROBLEM, WE'LL SEE HIM ONE, BUT MAJORITY OF THE TIME IF THEY'RE HIGH RISK, WE'RE GONNA SEND TWO.

I THINK THE ORIGINAL INTENTION WAS ON THAT POLICY.

YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING YEAH, YOU'RE GONNA GET US ALL YELLED AT.

THE REGULAR, YES, THE REGULAR INTENT.

I THINK THE ORIGINAL INTENT ON THAT WAS IF SOMEONE'S GOING TO TRAINING OR SOMETHING AND THEY FLY AND THEN THEY NEED TO RENT A CAR THAT YOU GENTLEMEN WANT THAT APPROVED PRIOR TO THAT, THAT THIS CASE, IT'S A DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT BILL.

HE DOESN'T KNOW WHEN HE IS GONNA HAVE TO PICK UP PRISONERS AND THERE'S NO REALLY NO WAY TO WORK AROUND THAT.

SO, SO I THINK THAT POLICY OUGHT BE ADAPTED TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WHERE HE CAN GET RENT CAR AS, AS INDEED ONE.

AND THAT'S JUST FOR PICKING UP PRISONER.

WE'LL DO THE TRAINING.

IF WE FLY SOMEBODY TRAINING, WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

WE'RE JUST ASKED FOR PICKING UP TRANSPORT PRISON.

I COULD AFFORD, WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION YES.

SEVERAL MONTHS BACK AND I THOUGHT WE APPROVED IT, THAT WE AGREED THAT HE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT AND, AND THEY NEVER, AND WE NEVER POLICY TO CHANGED.

NEVER, NEVER GOT THE POLICY TO RIGHT.

REALLY BELIEVE, BUT I'M, I'M ASKING FOR FORGIVENESS CUZ WE HAD TO DO IT OR WE WAS GONNA LOSE A PRISONER.

SO , YEAH, I THINK I JUST WANT LET YOU GAVE FORGIVE PERMISSION BEFORE, BUT I MEAN, YEAH, IT WORKS.

I MEAN IT'S, IT'S GOOD FOR ME.

I'D BE HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THAT.

SO, UH, COMMISSIONER PHYLLIS MOVES TO ADD THAT RENTAL CAR POLICY AS PRESENTED.

IS THERE A SECOND? OH, SECOND.

CHRISTIE DICKEY, DISCUSS CONSIDER MOTION TO APPROVE THE REPLAT OF LOT TWO IN THE VAL VERDE EDITION LOCATED ON VAL VERDE LOOP IN PRECINCT THREE.

COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY THE SAYING.

OPPOSE? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

[9. Kristi Dickey; Discuss/Consider motion to approve the replat of Lot 2 in the Valverde Addition located on Valverde Loop in PCT 3. ]

UM, DO I APOLOGIZE HERE, I HAVE THREE OF THEM GOING TODAY.

SO, UH, THE REPLA OF LOT TWO IN VAL VERDE LOOP IS, UH, IS IN LOCATED IN PRECINCT THREE.

UM, BOTH LOTS ARE GONNA BE FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE.

UM, BOTH OF 'EM ARE APPROXIMATELY, UH, 2.1 ACRES EACH.

ALL APPROVING AUTHORITIES HAVE REVIEWED THE PACKET AND HAVE SIGNED OFF.

SO WE'RE ASKING THE COURT'S APPROVAL TODAY FOR THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE REPLAT.

QUESTIONS FOR CHRISTIE ABOUT THAT? IF THEY'RE NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT REPLAT AS PRESENTED ON ITEM NINE? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION WITH THAT MOTION.

SECOND FOR COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION.

IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

ITEM 10, BACK TO CHRISTIE.

UH, THAT MOTION CARRIES

[10. Kristi Dickey; Discuss/Consider motion to approve the final plat of Becker Addition located on CR 4027 in PCT 4.]

DISCUSS CONSIDER MOTION TO APPROVE THE FINAL PLAT OF BECKER EDITION LOCATED ON COUNTY ROAD 4 0 27 IN PRECINCT FOUR.

UH, BECKER EDITION IS, UH, TWO LOTS, UH, FOR SINGLE FAMILY

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RESIDENTIAL USE.

THESE FAMILIES ARE READY TO MOVE ONTO THEIR PROPERTY.

UM, IT'S BEEN, THEY'RE IN THE WORKING PROCESS OF THIS FOR A WHILE.

UM, LOT ONE IS 9.5 ACRES AND LOT TWO IS APPROXIMATELY 9.33 ACRES.

UM, SO WE'RE ASKING THE COURSE APPROVAL FOR THE FINAL PLAT QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FINAL PLANT NEVARO EDITION LOCATED ON COUNTY ROAD THREE? I'M SORRY I'M ON THE WRONG ONE.

DISCUSSION, APPROVE THE FINAL PLANT OF BECK EDITION LOCATED ON COUNTY ROAD 4 0 27.

SO EVERYTHING'S APPROVED AND GOOD? YES, SIR.

OKAY, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

COMMISSIONER PHYLLIS MAKES THAT MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND, ALL SECOND COMMISSIONER HUNT SECONDS.

UH, THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY THE SAYING.

ITEM

[11. Kristi Dickey; Discuss/Consider motion to approve the final plat of Navarro Addition located on CR 348, in PCT 3]

11, CHRISSY DICKEY.

LAST ONE.

DISCUSS, CONSIDER MOTION TO APPROVE THE FINAL PLEA ON NAV EDITION LOCATED ON COUNTY ROAD 3 48 IN PRECINCT THREE.

AGAIN, THIS IS FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE.

UM, LOT ONE IS 4.5 ACRES AND LOT TWO IS APPROXIMATELY 4.72 ACRES.

ALL APPROVING AUTHORITIES HAVE REVIEWED AND SIGNED OFF AND WE'RE ASKING THE COURT'S APPROVAL QUESTIONS.

NO, NOT AS LONG IS NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT FINAL PLANNER NAVARRO EDITION? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION OR THE MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? A SECOND.

UP JACK SEBASTIAN, DISCUSS, CONSIDER RETIRED ASSISTANT CHIEF TIM MOORE TO PURCHASE HIS DUTY WEAPON IN ACCORDANCE TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT POLICY AND PURSUANT TO HB 1379.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY THE SAYING AYE UHHUH.

[12. Jack Sebastian; Discuss/Consider retired Assistant Chief Tim Moore to purchase his duty weapon, in accordance with Commissioner's Court Policy pursuant to HB 1379. Serial number PPL814. ]

GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN.

UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SHERIFF BURNS AND MYSELF BROUGHT, BROUGHT TO THE COURT BACK IN 2012 AND, UH, OTHER AGENCIES WERE, WERE UTILIZING THIS AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM.

AND, UH, UH, AS YOU SEE, THERE'S, THERE'S SOME QUOTES ON, ON THE WEAPON.

AND I THINK IT'S BEEN AVERAGE.

YOU AVERAGE ALL THE 3, 3, 4 PRICES AND THEN IT'S 50% OF THAT ITEM OF THAT COST.

AND, UH, I'D MAKE GET RECOMMENDATION.

UH, QUESTIONS.

IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT PURCHASE IS PRESENTED? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

UH, WHERE THE MOTION COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS IS THERE SECOND.

I, SECOND.

DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY THE SAYING.

UH, THAT MOTION CARRIES 12 JACK SEBASTIAN, DISCUSS, CONSIDER, I'M SORRY,

[13. Jack Sebastian; Discuss/Consider renewal of RFQ-19-17, Consulting Engineering Services Agreement between Kaufman County and Teague Nail Perkins, Inc.]

UH, 13.

DISCUSS, CONSIDER RENEWAL OF RFQ 1917 CONSULTING SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN COFFMAN COUNTY AND TEAL PERKINS.

UH, GENTLEMEN, THIS WAS BID BACK IN IN 19, UH, IT'S, IT'S, UH, SERVICES FOR THE, UH, UH, REGULATION SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.

IT WAS BID IN 19 FOR A THREE YEAR PERIOD WITH TWO ONE YEAR ADDITIONAL RENEWALS.

AND THOSE ARE STILL LEFT.

SO I'D MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION.

QUESTIONS? NO, I, WE HAVE A GREAT WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH PERKINS.

YEP.

SO, I MEAN IT'S REALLY WORKED OUT REAL WELL.

THEN HOW ABOUT A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT RENEWAL? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

COMMISSIONER HUNT MOS APPROVE THAT RENEWAL IS PRESENTED IN 13.

IS THERE A SECOND? YEAH, I THINK I WAS SECOND.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY OF SAYING AYE.

ITEM 14 LAST FOR JACK DISCUSS CONSIDERED PURCHASING A MODEL BW TWO 11 PD FIVE FOR, UH, BOMAG FOR PRECINCT ONE ROAD AND BRIDGE UTILIZING THE SOURCE WHEEL COOPERATIVE.

[14. Jack Sebastian; Discuss/Consider purchasing a Model BW-211PD-5 Bomag for Pet 1 Road and Bridge utilizing the Sourcewell Purchasing Cooperative.]

AND IT LOOKS LIKE A PRECINCT ONE NEEDS TO BUY MO A RIGHT? THAT IS BIGGER ONE.

AND THAT IS THE ON THE SOURCE WHEEL CO-OP.

SO THAT MEETS ALL THE BID REQUIREMENTS, RIGHT? LOOKS LIKE THE TOTAL PRICE IS $150,000.

$150,072.

I WOULD MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION.

WE HAVE A RUNNING JOKE HERE, JACK CUZ WE HAVE ALL THESE HUGE CONTRACTS AND BIDS THAT COME IN AND THERE'S ALWAYS SOMEBODY WANTING TO STICK A FEW PENNIES ON THE END OF THE BID.

SO THANK YOU FOR ROUNDING, UH, QUESTIONS.

IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT PURCHASE IS PRESENTED IN I 14? I'LL MAKE A MOTION WHERE THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER HUNT.

IS THERE A SECOND? UH, SECOND.

15, COMMISSIONER HUNT, DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE INTERLOCAL PROJECT AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF KAUFMAN.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

[15. Commissioner Hunt; Discuss/Consider approval of the Interlocal Project Agreement with the City of Kaufman.]

UH, YES.

THIS, UH, THIS, UM, PROJECT AGREEMENT IS A RESULT OF, UH, AGREEMENT WE HAVE TO MANAGE THE SOLID WASTE FACILITY THAT, UH, COUNTY AND THE CITY, UH, RUN JOINTLY.

AND PART OF OUR, UH, UM, DEAL IN THE CONTRACT IS TO HELP MAINTAIN ROAD GOING INTO THE SOLID WASTE FACILITY.

SO WE'VE, UH, MADE AN AGREEMENT TO WHERE THE CITY'S GONNA PROVIDE ALL THE MATERIALS AND WE'LL PROVIDE THE MACHINERY, THE LABOR AND THE KNOWHOW.

SO I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, APPROVE COMMISSIONER HUNTS SMOOTH APPROVAL FOR

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THAT INTERLOCAL PROJECT AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF KAUFMAN.

IS THERE A SECOND? OH, SECOND.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY ST.

NEXT UP BOBBY BRIDGES PRESENT FACILITIES UPDATE.

[16. Bobby Bridges; Present facilities update. ]

THIS IS A STANDING THING I GUESS BOBBY WE'RE GONNA BE DOING FROM NOW TILL WHENEVER.

YES.

WE REQUESTED IT.

WE HAVE A WEEKLY UPDATE.

HOW YOU GUYS DO.

SO REAL QUICK, UM, AN UPDATE ON THE, ON THE PET ADOPTION CENTER, YOU KNOW, THE VOID SYSTEM ENGINEERS, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THAT ISSUE WITH THE PIPES BREAKING IN THE WALLS AND STUFF.

SO THE VOID SYSTEM ENGINEERS WERE OUT YESTERDAY.

THEY DID AN ASSESSMENT.

THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO GIVE A REPORT BACK WITHIN A WEEK OR TWO TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT.

THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'VE GOT THIS MORNING OUT OF.

OUT OF THAT, UM, THIS IS ALL WARRANTY WORK? YES SIR.

WELL, WELL MY BIG FEAR WITH THAT WHEN THAT HAPPENS, WE'VE HAD, I KNOW JACK PROBABLY REMEMBERS THE FOUNDATION SHIFTING ON THE, THE JAIL.

SO ONGOING.

ONGOING, YES.

AND IT'S, IT'S EVERY COUPLE YEARS ONGOING SIDEWALK.

SO, SO WHAT, YOU KNOW, WE JUST NEED TO GET IT CORRECTED NOW WHILE WE HAVE AN UNDER WARRANTY.

CORRECT.

AND FOLLOW UP AND, AND PURSUE THE REMEDIES.

NOW.

UH, NOT A HUN MORE OR LESS ON TOPIC HERE.

THE, UH, SHERIFF AND I ARE BOTH CASTING ABOUT LOOKING FOR, UH, AN ENGINEER OR SOMEBODY TO COME LOOK AT THE JAIL BECAUSE THIS IS PART OF YOUR FACILITY'S UPDATE.

BOBBY.

YEAH, YEAH, OF COURSE.

I THINK HE TOLD HIM.

CUZ I'M MET WITH A JUDGE.

UH, WE HAVE THE WHOLE SECTION OF THE FEMALE SIDE THAT IS TURNING INTO A MAJOR ISSUE.

IS THERE D I'VE TALKED TO JACK AND THE AUDITORS AND, AND WE ALSO TALKED TO TAC AND GOT THEM INVOLVED ON LOOKING AT AN INSURANCE CLAIM.

CUZ WE'RE LOOKING ANYWHERE FROM 75 TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

UH, EVERY TIME THEY GET INTO A PLUMBING SPOT IT'S BROKE.

WATER'S FLOWING THE OPPOSITE WAY.

SO NOT COUNTING YOUR ELECTRICAL THAT'S UNDERGROUND.

NO, NO.

REMOVE, YEAH.

THIS, THIS IS NOTHING WITH THE ELECTRICAL BUT THE WHOLE SIDE OF FEMALES SIDE OVER THERE.

IT'S BELOW THE GROUND AT THIS POINT.

SO WE HAVE WATER, WE GOT PUMPS SITTING IN FRONT, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO ENGINEER TALKING TO HIM.

I DID TALK TO, I TOLD YOU THE SCHOOL OVER HERE, SCHOOL HAD A MAJOR ISSUE.

MONDAY PRIMARY, THEY'VE DUG TUNNELS UNDERNEATH IT.

BUT UH, TALKING TO 3D, WHO'S DID THAT WORK? HE SAID MAN, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO YOURS CUZ YOU GOT MORE PLUMBING THAN ANYBODY.

SO I DON'T, IT'S GONNA HAVE TO TAKE AN ENGINEER.

SOMEBODY GONNA LOOK AT THIS CUZ WE'RE FIXING STUFF, REPLACING PIPES THAT'S ALREADY BEEN REPLACED.

THE IDEA IS THAT THE IDEA THAT WE HAD IN MY OFFICE THAT DAY WAS THAT WE NEED TO GET SOMEBODY AT LEAST TO LOOK AT IT.

AND FIGURE OUT.

I MEAN, AND UH, BECAUSE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THEY MIGHT TELL US THAT IT'S JUST ISOLATED THIS ONE PART.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DON'T KNOW.

AND WE NEED SOMEBODY THAT KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING TO LOOK AT IT.

EXACTLY.

CUZ IT'S STILL MOVING TO SIX TO EIGHT INCHES AND PIPE THROUGH CONCRETE IN WHICH BOBBY'S SEEN IT.

I MEAN, SO, SO I TALKED TO, UH, CARLOS AT HK AND ASK HIM IF HE COULD REFERENCE SOME PEOPLE TO US WHO MIGHT DO THAT KIND OF WORK.

I WE GOTTA LOOK AT SOMETHING I'M TELLING YOU CUZ IT IS COMING A MAJOR ISSUE AND I CAN'T SHUT, ESPECIALLY FEMALE CAUSE THERE'S ONLY 96.

SHUT IT DOWN.

HAVE TO HAVE SOME WAY TO WORK THROUGH IT.

WELL HE'S GOTTA MOVE ALL THOSE PEOPLE OUTTA THERE ONE OF THESE DAYS.

YEAH, YOU'RE GONNA BE FULL.

WE'RE MOVING AROUND.

WE'VE GOT ENOUGH ROOM TO MOVE.

BUT I, THE LAST THING I WANT TO DO IS WE HAVE TO CONTRACT WITH ANOTHER JAIL TO MOVE PEOPLE OFF.

CAUSE THEN THAT COSTS US MONEY.

SO, UH, GO AHEAD BOBBY, WITH YOUR REPORT.

YEAH, SO THE, THE ENGINEERING FIRM THAT ACTUALLY DESIGNED THE VOID SYSTEM FOR THE PAID ADOPTION CENTER, THEY CAME OUT MONDAY, DID A WALK THROUGH, DID AN ASSESSMENT, WHATEVER.

AND THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO GIVE A REPORT BACK WITHIN A WEEK OR TWO.

SO AS SOON AS GREG GETS THAT BACK, HE'LL PASS IT ON TO ME.

BUT I DO, I CAN SAY THAT THE, UH, THE PIPES HAVE BEEN REPAIRED THAT WERE BROKEN.

UH, AND I THINK THERE WAS FOUR TOTAL THAT HAD BROKE AND THEY HAD BROKE OFF IN THE WALL.

SO IT'S EITHER LIKE, LIKE THE PIPE WAS PUSHING UP AND IT WAS TAKING THE, UH, THE TEE AND SHOWING IT UP TO THE TOP OF THE WALL AND IT WAS BREAKING THE TEE OFF.

AND THAT'S THE, THE TWO THAT WE FOUND.

AND THEN I THINK THEY HAD TWO MORE, NOT COUNTING THE TOILET THAT WAS ABOUT AN INCH LIFTED.

SO, SO HOPEFULLY WITHIN A WEEK OR TWO WE'LL HAVE ENGINEERING REPORT BACK ON THAT.

UM, AS FAR AS THE JUSTICE CENTER JUDGE, YOU'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THAT AS WELL ON A, A COMPLETION DATE? I DON'T THINK WE'VE CAME UP WITH A COMPLETION DATE YET.

I SENT YOU, WELL I, AND I SENT THIS EMAIL TO I'M SURE EVERYBODY, HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY RECEIVED IT.

UH, THE 17TH.

THE, YEAH, THE, THE, WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN IN ORDER IS WE HAVE TO GET SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION.

THAT DOESN'T NEED TO MEAN COMPLETE, BUT IT HAS TO BE SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE ENOUGH THAT THE CITY WILL GIVE US A CO

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OR A TEMPORARY CO.

AND ONCE THEY DO THAT, WE CAN OCCUPY THE BUILDING.

BUT WE REALLY CAN'T OCCUPY THE BUILDING UNTIL THE, UH, JAIL STANDARDS COMMISSION, THE SHERIFF HAS ALREADY BEEN IN CONVERSATION WITH THEM BECAUSE THEY, WE CAN'T REALLY USE THAT BUILDING FOR WHAT IT'S INTENDED UNLESS WE CAN HAVE THAT CONNECTIVITY WITH THE JAIL.

SO THE JAIL STANDARDS COMMISSION WOULD HAVE TO COME AND GIVE, UM, GIVE THEIR, UH, OCCUPANCY CERTIFICATE AND THEN THE BUILDING WILL BE READY TO MOVE INTO.

UM, AND I, THE DATES THAT I PUT IN THAT EMAIL I THINK ARE PROBABLY STILL GOOD.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S A DAY TO DAY THING, BUT THINGS ARE MOVING ALONG.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'LL WORK ON.

THAT'S, THERE YOU GO.

WHAT ABOUT THE, WHAT ABOUT THE, HAVE YOU MET WITH THE MOVING PEOPLE OR WHAT WAS SO I ACTUALLY, YES SIR.

I DID.

I TALKED TO 'EM LAST WEEK AND I, I MADE THEM AWARE, WELL ACTUALLY A WEEK BEFORE THAT MADE THEM AWARE THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE THAT OCTOBER DATE.

MM-HMM.

, UM, THEY'RE KIND OF IN A LIMBO WAITING FOR US TO COME BACK WITH A DATE.

UH, WE HAVE DONE SOME THINGS IN THE, UH, COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE TO KIND OF GET STARTED WITH MOVE SOLU, NO SOUTHWEST SOLUTIONS.

SOUTHWEST SOLUTIONS.

UM, CUZ THERE'S SHELVING THAT'S IN HERD DEPARTMENT THAT HAS TO BE DISASSEMBLED AND MOVED OVER TO THE NEW JUSTICE CENTER.

BUT THEY GOTTA HAVE A PLACE TO STORE ALL THOSE FILES.

SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE ACTUALLY MOVED, WHAT, FOUR PEOPLE IN YOUR AREA? SO WE RELOCATED FOUR PEOPLE IN MISS LORI'S AREA, MOVED SOME CUBICLES OUT AND GAVE THEM A SPACE WHERE THEY CAN START TAKING STUFF OFF THE SHELVING, PUTTING IT ON CARTS, STORING THEM SO THEY CAN START TAKING THAT SHELVING DOWN AND RELOCATING IT OVER THERE.

UM, WHICH AT THIS TIME THAT DOESN'T WHERE WE'RE AT, THE JUSTICE CENTER DOESN'T STOP THEM FROM DOING THAT PROCESS.

SO THEY'RE GONNA START THAT.

I THINK THEY SAID THE 17TH, THEY'RE GONNA START MOVING THE SHELVING.

SO, AND THEY HAVE INSTALLED A LOT OF SHELVING OVER THERE CURRENTLY.

UM, A LOT OF SHELTERING, A LOT OF SHELVING.

YEP.

UM, AND AS FAR AS THE FACILITIES UPDATES, UM, THE KIDS ARE OUTTA SCHOOL THIS WEEK, SO WE POSTPONED THE CHILDREN'S SHELTER, RESTROOM REMODELS.

SO NEXT WEEK, SO WE'LL START ON THAT NEXT WEEK.

AND, UH, THERE'S FIVE BATHROOMS THAT WE'RE GONNA REMODEL IN THERE.

AND THEN, UH, THIS WEEK WE'RE WORKING ON THE JANITORIAL, UH, I'M SORRY, UH, JANITORIAL, THE VETERAN'S MEMORIAL.

THE VETERAN'S MEMORIAL PARK.

UH, MR. HUNTER HAD SOME CONCRETE POURED, UH, SEVERAL CONCRETE PADS POURED AND HE'S GOT SOME BENCHES THAT HE'S INSTALLING.

WE'RE GONNA ASSEMBLE THOSE AND INSTALL THEM THIS WEEK.

AS FAR AS LANDSCAPING, UM, WE DID HIRE A LANDSCAPING GUY, UH, OR LAWN CREW GUY.

AND HE IS OUT MOWING FORNEY AS WE SPEAK RIGHT NOW, STARTING THERE, GOING TOTER AND THEN WORK HIS BAY BACK TO KAUFMAN.

HE'S ALREADY DONE THE SOUTH CAMPUS, THE POOR FARM.

AND, UH, THE FAIRGROUNDS, THE VETERANS PARK AND HE'LL HIT THE, UH, CHILDREN'S SHELTER AS WELL.

BUT I KNOW THAT THE BIG ISSUES WE HAD, JUDGE, LIKE WE HAD DISCUSSED THE OTHER DAY WAS, IS UH, THE PET ADOPTION CENTER.

THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION THERE ON WHO WAS ACTUALLY DOING THAT.

UM, NOW THAT WE KNOW THAT IT'S ALL OF THAT IS OURS, WE WE'LL TAKE CARE OF IT.

AND I KNOW THE SHERIFF, HIS, HIS GUY HAS BEEN MOWING.

WE CAN KEEP MOWING.

I'VE BEEN MOWING THAT.

SO WE'LL JUST MAKE SURE THE FIRE BEDS.

FIRE BEDS.

EXACTLY.

SO, WE'LL, WE'LL MAINTAIN THE FIRE BEDS LIKE WE HAD DISCUSSED AND HIS GUYS HAVE BEEN MOWING IT.

UH, SO WE SHOULD HAVE NO MORE ISSUES AT THE PET ADOPTION CENTER ON LAWN CARE.

I GUESS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS, UM, WHEN WE GET TO THE COMPLETION DATE OR WHATEVER, WHO DOES THE PUNCH LIST AND THEN WHO DID THE PUNCH LIST AT THE ANIMALS? I MEAN THE PET ADOPTION CENTER DO, DOES FACILITIES, CAN I ANSWER THAT? DO YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.

I'M ASKING GALLAGHER, THE, THE, THE, THE SYSTEM THAT THEY USE.

GALLAGHER WILL DO THE, IT'S THE BUILDINGS STILL THERES UNTIL THEY COMPLETE THE PUNCH LIST AND THEN IT BECOMES OURS.

THERE WILL BE, UNDOUBTEDLY THERE WILL BE THINGS THAT COME UP AFTER THAT.

BUT ALL THE, CUZ GALLAGHER IS THE ONE THAT HAS THE CREWS AND EVERYTHING TO ADDRESS.

SO THEY'LL, THEY'LL DO THAT WALKTHROUGH.

WE CERTAINLY CAN GO AND, I MEAN WE, I MEAN THE FACILITIES OR WHOEVER CAN GO WALK THROUGH WITH THAT PUNCH LIST, BUT THEY'LL DO THE INITIAL PUNCH LIST BECAUSE IN SOME CASES THEY'LL HAVE PEOPLE, THEY'LL HAVE A CONTRACTOR WITH THEM RIGHT THERE THAT SAY, HOW ARE YOU GONNA FIX THIS? YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE PLAN ON THIS? HOW LONG'S GONNA TAKE? AND THEY'LL DO ALL THAT IN THE INITIAL, BUT BEFORE WE, I DUNNO HOW YOU SAY IT, BUT BEFORE WE ACCEPT THE BUILDING, THEN WE'LL DO A PUNCH LIST.

I MEAN, WE'LL DO A FINAL WALKTHROUGH BEFORE WE TURN THEM LOOSE.

SAID THE PEOPLE THAT LEASED THE BUILDING, AND THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH THE ANSWER I GOT.

CAUSE I, I, I, CUZ I ASKED THE QUESTION AND UH, TO, UH, THE GUY FROM GALLAGHER AND YOU KNOW, HIS FACE KIND OF WENT STRAIGHT AND HE

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SO THE PEOPLE THAT WHAT, AT LEAST THE BUILDING THE FED AM THE ADOPTION CENTER BUILDING.

IT WAS, I DIDN'T GET A VALID ANSWER.

THIS IS THE CLOSEST TO A VALID ANSWER I'VE GOTTEN WHEN I ASKED THE QUESTION.

SO, WELL, THE MAIN THING IS THE COURSE.

I THINK YOU REALLY GOT TWO KINDS OF PUNCH LIST.

YOU GOT PUNCH LIST, LIKE DOORS WON'T CLOSE OR, YOU KNOW, MAJOR STUFF.

AND, AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THEY BE, THAT WE DON'T TAKE THAT RESPONSIBILITY OFTEN AND WE LET OH, SURE, SURE, SURE.

THIS IS YOUR DEAL.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS YOUR DEAL.

YOU, YOU GET IT TO US AND YOU TELL US WHEN IT'S READY AND THEN WE'LL GO WALK THROUGH AND SEE WHAT WE AGREED TO.

I DIDN'T GET A GOOD ANSWER FOR THE SYSTEM AND YEAH, NOW I'VE GOT AN ANSWER FOR THE SYSTEM.

SO, YEAH.

THAT'S ALL I GOT.

AND WE DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY PROBLEMS. UH, GALLAGHER'S, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TALKING TO THE FIRE MARSHAL AND THEY'RE TALKING TO THE BUILDING INSPECTORS AND THEY'RE GOING OVER, I MEAN, IT'S NOT GONNA BE THE FIRST TIME THE, THE, THE FINAL INSPECTION IS NOT GONNA BE THE FIRST TIME THAT THOSE INSPECTORS HAVE BEEN IN THAT BUILDING.

I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY THEY'RE TRYING, THEY FEEL PRETTY CONFIDENT THERE'S NOT GONNA BE SOME SORT OF A MAJOR PROBLEM.

AND I THINK IT'S THE SAME THING WITH, YOU KNOW, THE SHERIFF IS THE SHERIFF IN GALLAGHER HAVE AND HLK HAVE HAD A MILLION CONVERSATIONS ABOUT JAIL STANDARDS.

SO WE DON'T THINK THERE'S GONNA BE SOME BIG PROBLEM.

WE THINK WE'LL PASS, BUT THERE MAY BE A FEW SMALL THINGS THAT THEY FIND.

I KNOW ON THE SECURITY SIDE, I'M GOOD WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING.

I DON'T ABOUT THE RIGHT ONES.

WHAT ELSE, BOBBY? THAT'S ALL I GOT.

WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK.

MADAM AUDITOR, DISCUSS LINE ITEM AND BUDGET TRANSFERS.

THANK YOU, SIR.

HEY, UH,

[17. Auditor; Discuss/Consider line-item and budget transfers/corrections. ]

UM, I HAD SENT THESE TO YOU EARLIER LAST WEEK TO LOOK TO REVIEW AND YES, THERE'S TWO PHYSICAL YEARS INVOLVED, SO ALREADY HAVING TO AMEND AND TRANSFER TO COVER EVERYTHING.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT LINE TRANSFERS? NO SIR.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE IS PRESENTED? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

IS THERE A SECOND? ONE SECOND.

COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THAT MOTION

[18. Auditor; Discuss/Consider claims for payment and/or Financial Information as provided by the County Auditor. ]

CARRIES.

ITEM 18, THAT AUDITOR DISCUSS, CONSIDER CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT AND OR FINANCIAL INFORMATION.

YOUR CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT ARE $2,625,376 AND 11 CENTS.

A PAYROLL OF 1,000,400 $75,079 AND 52 CENTS FOR A TOTAL PAYOUT OF $4,100,455 AND 63 CENTS.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I HEAR NO QUESTIONS.

IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT AS PRESENTED? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION WAY THAT MOTION COMMISSION HUNT.

IS THERE A SECOND? UH, SECOND.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY SAYING AYE.

THAT MOTION CARRIES

[19. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider exiting regular meeting and enter executive session; ]

ITEM 19.

ITEM 19, DISCUSS EXITING REGULAR MEETING AND ENTERING EXECUTIVE SESSION.

IS THERE A MOTION TO DO SO? I'LL MAKE THAT, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

DON'T GET ALL CHOKED UP ON IT.

COMMISSIONER PHYLLIS MOVES TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

IS THEIR SECOND COMMISSIONER HUNT SECONDS? THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY THE SAYING.

I CAN'T WRITE AND TALK THE SAME TIME.

UH, WE ARE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51 0.07, ONE OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.

THE COMMISSIONERS' COURT WILL MEET IN CLOSED SESSION, UH, WITH COUNSEL TO DISCUSS REGIONAL PUBLIC DEFENDER CONTRACT AND WE WILL EXECUTIVE SECTION PURSUANT TO 5 5 1 0.087 OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE.

THE COMMISSIONERS' COURT WILL MEET IN CLOSED SESSION TO DISCUSS THE POTENTIAL ABLE SPRINGS SOLAR PROJECT.

UM, WE, WE HAVE JUDGE, JUDGE WING JU SO I GUESS WE'LL DO THE PUBLIC DEFENDER CONTRACT FIRST.

SORRY GENTLEMEN, BUT THE JUDGE TO GO GET TO GO FIRST.

YOU ALL HAD, DO Y'ALL JUST HANG WITH US AND WE'LL COME GET YOU IN JUST A MINUTE.

UM, SO I GUESS WE'LL MEET IN THE CONFERENCE ROOM.

PLEASE BE ON VACATION.

YOU BE DOWN THE COAST FISHING, DOING WHATEVER, YOU KNOW.

WE ARE OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION.

I NEED A MOTION TO COME BACK OUT OF EXECUTIVE STATION INTO REGULAR SESSION.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

COMMISSIONER PHYLLIS MOVES TO COME BACK INTO REGULAR SESSION AND SECOND BY SECOND COMMISSIONER HUNT.

DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR? I I THAT'S PASSES, UH, NO ACTION TAKEN IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.

I DON'T HEAR ANY MOTIONS COMING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION.

SO THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM 24.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.

MR. PHIS MOVES TO ADJOURN.

IS THERE SECOND? SECOND, SECOND.