Oct 18, 2022 Commissioners Court

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THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE KAUFLIN COUNTY

[Call to Order]

TODAY'S TUESDAY, OCTOBER 18TH, 2022, 9:00 AM IN THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING ROOM IN THE COURTHOUSE ANNEX.

WE'LL, UH, START OUR MEETING TODAY.

UH, COMMISSIONER BARBER IS GONNA LEAD US IN AN INVOCATION AND COMMISSIONER HUNT WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGES.

IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STAND, PRAY WITH ME.

PLEASE HONOR HEAVENLY FATHER COME TO YOU THIS MORNING, UH, ASKING YOU TO PLEASE BE WITH US ALL AND BE WITH US TODAY AS WE, UH, DELIBERATE THE BUSINESS FOR KAIN COUNTY AND ALL OF OUR CITIZENS.

I WANNA THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY AND THANK YOU FOR THE MUCH COOLER WEATHER.

AND, UH, I ASK YOU TO CONTINUE TO BE WITH US, UH, THROUGHOUT THIS DAY AND THIS WEEK.

IT'S IN YOUR SON'S NAME, WE PRAY.

AMEN.

AW AMEN.

TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD IN THE VISIBLE AND JUSTICE FOR TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE THE REASONS TO ME, TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD ONE, AND UNABLE GOOD MORNING TO EVERYBODY.

UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS FROM, YOU KNOW, WANTING TO SPEAK TO THE PUBLIC, UH, OR FROM THE PUBLIC WANTING TO

[1. ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.]

UH, FIRST ITEM ON THE LIST IS, UH, ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.

I HAVE ONE THING AND THAT THIS IS A REALLY JUST FOR GENERAL INFORMATION COMMISSIONERS ALSO, IS THAT OUR NEXT MEETING, Y'ALL ALL HAD THE APPLICATIONS FROM NONPROFITS.

AND SO I'M PLANNING TO PUT THAT, UH, UP ON THE AGENDA FOR US TO, UH, LOOK AT THAT NEXT WEEK.

SO IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO GO THROUGH THOSE, YOU MIGHT WANT TO, YOU MIGHT WANT TO DO THAT.

UH, AND COMMISSIONER BARBER, YOU HAVE ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE ALSO.

YES.

UH, A GENTLEMAN WHO LIVES IN MY PRECINCT, MR. JOHN SUTTON, IS THERE THIS MORNING.

HE WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS IF HE COULD.

YOU WANT STEP OVER HERE.

MR. SUTTON.

HOW Y'ALL DOING TODAY? GOOD.

GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS JOHN SUTTON.

I LIVE 14 2 10 CREEK ROAD, TEXAS ON OCTOBER THE FIFTH.

I HAD NINE.

ONE MORNING MY GRAND BABY WASN'T BREATHING.

SIX MONTH OLD, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT SHOWED UP, THE AMBULANCE SHOWED UP.

BUT THERE WAS ONE PERSON THAT STOOD OUT THAT TOOK ME TO THE SIDE, PRAYED FOR ME, AND HELD ME LIKE I WAS HIS BROTHER.

AND I'D REALLY LIKE FOR Y'ALL TO RECOGNIZE THAT OFFICER FOR GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND THE CALL OF DUTY.

I'VE WORKED POLICE OFFICERS EVERY DAY ON A COMPANY AND DALLAS SOC SECURITY AND INVESTIGATIONS.

AND I WORK POLICE OFFICERS.

AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT THE PROTOCOL PROTOCOL, BUT THAT OFFICER, Y'ALL GOT A GYM, Y'ALL GOT A, A GYM WITH THAT OFFICER, THE GENTLEMAN RIGHT THERE.

AND YOU BETTER HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ME HAVING HIS BACK BECAUSE HE HAD MY BACK AT THE DARKEST MOMENT.

AND I'M GONNA THANK Y'ALL AND I WOULD LIKE Y'ALL TO RECOGNIZE HIM IN SOME KIND OF WAY.

AND THAT'S WADE BOWDEN.

WADE, APPRECIATE YOU SO MUCH.

AND I THINK THAT SAYS A LOT ABOUT OUR, THE WAY THAT WE TRY TO DO THINGS IN THIS COUNTY.

UH, OUR CONSTABLES IN OUR SHERIFF'S OFFICE, BOTH, UM, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE CALL ME, BUT YOU'RE THE FIRST ONE THAT'S WANTED TO COME UP HERE AND WE APPRECIATE THAT.

YEAH, I THINK Y'ALL WOULD THINK Y'ALL'S TIME.

THANK YOU.

THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, WADE.

DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE THIS YEAR?

[2. CONSENT AGENDA]

THERE'S THREE ITEMS. A, B, AND C.

ANYBODY WANT TO TALK ABOUT ONE OF THOSE THINGS IN SPECIFIC? IF NOT, UH, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PER AS PRESENTED? I MOTION WE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND.

COMMISSIONER CAGE DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

UM, I'M WANT, I'M LOOKING FOR PICTURE RIGHT QUICK.

I'M SORRY, PAM.

WANT TO KNOW IF WE COULD DO A PICTURE THEM UP HERE? UH, SURE.

OKAY, PAM? YEAH, THAT'S, GO AHEAD.

GO AHEAD.

Y'ALL ALL THE WAY UP, RIGHT? MY GOD.

ONE TWO'S GRASS.

I'M TWO THREE.

PERFECT.

NOW LOOK AT ME.

, COME HERE.

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MAKEUP.

YEAH.

.

YOU'D CALMED YOUR HAIR BETTER, HUH? RIGHT.

.

OKAY.

UM, I'M LOOKING FOR JUDGE RICH.

IS HE IN THERE? NO, DON'T SEE HIM.

OKAY.

WHY DON'T WE PASS THIS ITEM? MAYBE HE WILL COME OR SOMETHING.

MAYBE SOMEBODY WILL CHECK IN, SEE IF HE'S ON HIS WAY.

[4. Tommy Phillips; Present/Accept the Quarterly report (July/August/September- 2022) from the Kaufman County Extension office.]

UH, TOMMY PHILLIPS PRESENT FOR ACCEPTANCE, THE QUARTERLY REPORT JULY, AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER FROM THE KAUFMAN COUNTY EXTENSION OFFICE.

GOOD MORNING, JUDGE COMMISSIONERS, IT'S OUR, OUR PLEASURE TO BE WITH Y'ALL AGAIN, TO PRESENT OUR QUARTER QUARTERLY REPORT FROM OUR OFFICE OF, OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON SINCE JULY AND THROUGH SEPTEMBER.

UH, I'M GONNA KIND OF HIGHLIGHT SOME OF MY THINGS JUST REAL QUICKLY AND KIND OF GO THROUGH KATIE'S.

UH, KATIE HAD A PRIOR OBLIGATION THIS MORNING, AND THEN I'M GONNA LET CARRIE HAVE THE BR HAVE MOST OF THE TIME SINCE FOUR H HAS BEEN SO BUSY, THOSE LAST, UH, LAST THREE MONTHS.

SO, JUST TO HIGHLIGHT SOME FEW THINGS THAT TAKE PART IN THE AG AND NATURAL RESOURCES.

UH, WE HELD OUR, UH, VERY FIRST KAUFMAN COUNTY CATTLEMAN'S CONFERENCE BACK ON SEPTEMBER THE 16TH.

WE HELD IT OUT AT THE FAIRGROUNDS, HAD SOME REALLY GOOD SPEAKERS, GOOD TOPICS, UH, WILLY REALLY WELL RECEIVED.

AND AS A RESULT OF THAT, THE ANTICIPATED ECONOMIC IMPACT FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT THAT PARTICIPATED, UM, WAS $108,000.

UM, IT CAME OUT TO ABOUT $6,300 PER PERSON THAT HE FELT LIKE THEY GOT THAT MUCH BENEFIT OUT OF IT.

SO GETTING GEARED UP FOR OUR HAY SHOW, UH, WE HAD, UM, HAY COLLECTION THAT TAKEN UP UNTIL SEPTEMBER 24TH.

WE HAD ABOUT 55 OR 56 SAMPLES.

UH, HEY SHOW WILL BE NEXT TUESDAY EVENING.

UH, HOPE Y'ALL GOT YOUR INVITES.

UM, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

THIS HAS BEEN A TERRIBLE YEAR FOR HEY, BUT I WILL TELL YOU AND HADN'T EVEN TALKED TO MR. HUNTER, MR. KATES ABOUT IT.

BUT, UM, THE SAMPLES REALLY CAME BACK EXTREMELY WELL, UH, WAS REALLY VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE QUALITY OF HAY THAT, UH, THAT WAS ENTERED THIS YEAR.

UH, SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD GUEST SPEAKER, HEY, JUDGING CONTEST AS WELL, LIKE WE TYPICALLY DO.

UH, SO THAT KINDA WRAPS THAT UP.

HORTICULTURE'S BEEN BUSY.

OUR MASTER GARDENERS HAVE BEEN GOING FULL FORCE, WRAPPED UP OUR GATHERING OUR INFORMATION TO PUT TOGETHER OUR 23 CALENDAR.

UM, THAT IS KIND OF OUR MAJOR FUNDRAISER AND KIND OF AN EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMMING AS WELL.

COUPLE OF PROGRAMS WE HELD OUT AT HEARTLAND.

UM, SO REALLY GREAT, GREAT THINGS COMING FROM THAT.

NOVEMBER THE 12TH, WE HAVE OUR, UM, EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE HOSTING AS WELL.

REALLY GREAT SPEAKERS AND TOPICS ON THAT.

UM, VERY EXCITED TO SAY WE DO HAVE A NEW SECRETARY HIRED.

UM, SO WE WILL BE FULLY STAFFED IN OUR OFFICE AS OF OCTOBER 31ST.

UH, MS. CYNTHIA SMITH, SHE GOES BY SIN, UH, WILL BE JOINING OUR STAFF.

UH, VERY EXCITED ABOUT HAVING HER.

UH, SHE COMES TO US FROM THE MEDICAL FIELD.

SHE'S BEEN A, MY SURGICAL SECRETARY, UH, OVER AT BAYLOR FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

UH, WANTS TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE NORMAL LIFE.

UH, SHE LEAVES THE HOUSE ABOUT THREE O'CLOCK EVERY MORNING.

UH, SO, UH, SHE LIVES VERY CLOSE BY US, SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT HER JOINING OUR STAFF.

KINDA WRAP UP MY STUFF.

WE KINDA WRAPPED UP OUR AG AGENTS ASSOCIATION MEETING BACK IN SOUTH PADRE BACK IN JULY.

UM, VERY, I'M NOT SURE I'M PROUD OR, BUT I'M PROUD TO BE SERVING IN THAT CAPACITY WITH THAT ASSOCIATION.

AGAIN, BEEN A MEMBER SINCE I'VE JOINED EXTENSION IN 96 AND LUCK OF THE DRAW.

THEY VOTED ME TO BE THEIR VICE PRESIDENT.

SO IN THREE YEARS I'LL BE PRESIDENT ASSOCIATION.

SO, UM, KIND OF GO OVER SOME OF KATIE'S THINGS THAT SHE'S BEEN DOING, TALKING ABOUT SOME OF OUR COMMITTEE MEETINGS AND THINGS THAT SHE'S BEEN HANDLING.

I THINK A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT SHE'S BEEN GOING IS GEARING UP FOR THIS FALL.

UM, HER PROGRAMMING HAPPENS IN THE FALL AND EARLY SPRING.

UM, GETTING UNDERWAY FOR THE UPCOMING DINNER TONIGHT STUFF.

I THINK MOST OF THAT'S BEEN SENT OUT THROUGH THE HR DEPARTMENT HERE, BUT THAT'S GONNA BE KICKING OFF.

UH, THIS NEXT WEEK.

UH, WHAT IS CALLED WHAT'S FOR DINNER TONIGHT IN NORTHEAST TEXAS.

UM, AGAIN, A LOT OF US HAVE BEEN REALLY BUSY WITH FOUR H, OUR DISTRICT FOUR H RESPONSIBILITIES, RECORD, BOOK JUDGING, UM, COMMITTEE WORKDAY AND THE GETTING GOING ON, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO I'M GOING LET CARRY HAVE MOST OF THE TIME SINCE FOUR H HAS BEEN SO BUSY IN THOSE LAST THREE MONTHS.

NOT THAT BUSY .

UM, SUMMER HAS BEEN GREAT FOR THE KAMAN COUNTY FOUR H PROGRAM.

STARTING IN THE MONTH OF JUNE.

WE'VE BEEN GONE AT LEAST THREE TO FOUR DAYS OUT OF EACH WEEK, ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE FIRST PART OF AUGUST.

AND SO I'M VERY PROUD THAT OUR FOUR HS IN KAMAN COUNTY HAVE REPRESENTED AS WELL.

UH, WE STARTED OFF WITH, UH, THE STATE ROUNDUP WHERE WE CAME BACK WITH

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ELI STITCHER PLAYS SECOND WITH HIS, UH, SHARE THE PHONE PIANO.

IF YOU'VE EVER HEARD THE YOUNG MAN PLAY, HE'S EXCELLENT AT IT.

UM, AND SO WE CAME BACK WITH SEVERAL, UH, FIRST PLAYS.

OUR ROBOTICS CLUB DID EX EXCELLENT.

THEY'RE GROWING, UH, TO THE POINT WHERE I NOW NEED TO WRITE MORE GRANTS TO TRY TO FIND MORE ROBOTS.

UH, WE'LL BE HEADING IN TOMORROW WITH OUR ABOS, UH, TEAMS. AND SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING HOW THAT ALL ROLLS THROUGH.

WE'LL BE TAKING IN TWO JUNIOR TEAMS AND TWO SENIOR TEAMS. SO WITH THAT PROCESS GOING THROUGH, WE THEN ROLLED INTO OUR SUMMER MONTHS WITH ALL OF OUR CAMPS.

UM, I'M VERY EXCITED.

WE HAVE A, ANOTHER TEXAS AGRICULTURAL, UM, AMBASSADOR, LIVESTOCK AMBASSADOR.

KATIE JUT IS DOING EXTREMELY WELL.

SHE ACTUALLY STARTED PLANNING LAST YEAR, A, UH, GOAT AND LAMB CLINIC FOR FOUR H AND FFA YOUNG PEOPLE AROUND THE AREA.

UH, LAST YEAR WE HAD 18 TO 28 PEOPLE, DEPENDING ON IF YOU COUNT THE PARENTS THAT STAYED AROUND THIS YEAR.

UH, THIS LAST SATURDAY, WE HAD 78 PEOPLE OUT AT THE FAIRGROUNDS, AND SHE DID AN EXCELLENT JOB.

SHE GOT ALL OF OUR OTHER TEAM LEADERS TOGETHER, PLUS ALSO PATRICK HARTLEY, WHO IS OUR FFA ADVISOR HERE IN KAUFMAN.

HE CAME IN AND DID EXCELLENT, UH, DEMONSTRATIONS FOR THE, UH, HOW TO CLIP YOUR GOATS AND YOUR LAMBS IN THE THREE DIFFERENT WAYS YOU CAN CLIP HIM FOR EITHER MARKET WEATHER OR BREEDING.

AND SO THEY CAME BACK WITH SOME VERY FAVORABLE REVIEWS.

I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THOSE CUSTOMER SERVICE, UM, OUR CUSTOMER SURVEYS COMING BACK.

SO WITH THAT ALL SAID AND DONE, OUR TEAM LEADERS ARE DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB REACHING OUT.

ELI DETRA HAS STARTED HIS, UH, PUBLIC SPEAKING, UH, MONTHLY MEETINGS.

UH, 18 PEOPLE CAME TO THIS ONE THAT WE STARTED OFF WITH.

SO I'M LOOKING VERY FORWARD TO HAVING THE YOUNG PEOPLE OF KAUFMAN COUNTY REACHING FORWARD AND LEARNING HOW TO SPEAK IN FRONT OF GROUPS AND STRETCHING THAT FORWARD.

STATE FAIRS GOING ON RIGHT NOW THROUGH EAST TEXAS, HEART OF TEXAS.

THE FOUR STATES, TEXAS, UH, FAIRS ARE, SO STATE FAIRS IN TEXAS.

YEAH, THERE IS A LOT OF, UM, AND ALSO WEST TEXAS.

UH, WE HAVE BEEN ROCK AND ROLLING THIS LAST, UH, WEEKEND.

WE HAVE OUR LARGEST GROUP OF HEIFERS ROLLING IN.

UM, SO I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT SEEING THOSE YOUNG PEOPLE, UH, SHOW THEIR PROJECTS AND GET THEM ON THE WAY TO GO.

UM, AND THEN WE'RE DO, RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF VALIDATIONS FOR FOUR H AND FFA.

UM, WE'RE STARTING OFF PRETTY STRONG WITH OUR VALIDATIONS FOR ALL THOSE GROUPS.

SO HOPEFULLY BY THE TIME I REPORT BACK AGAIN, YOU'LL KNOW HOW MUCH, UH, WE'RE GONNA BE DOING WITH THE, UH, LIVESTOCK PROGRAMS IN, UM, IN KAUFMAN COUNTY.

HEADING OFF TO THE MAJOR SHOWS, THE COUNTY FAIR, UH, VALIDATIONS ARE GOING ON.

THE FIRST PART OF, UM, NOVEMBER 1ST WILL BE THE COUNTY VALIDATION FOR COMMERCIAL HEIFERS AND COUNTY STEERS OVER AT RICE SINGERS.

AND THEN WE'LL ROLL INTO THE COUNTY FAIR, UH, ACTUAL ENTRIES.

THAT DATE HAS ACTUALLY BEEN MOVED UP.

UH, WE'LL BE ACTUALLY DOING A MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY EVENT OUT AT THE COUNTY FAIRGROUNDS.

AND SO THE SALE WILL ACTUALLY BE ON A FRIDAY THIS YEAR.

SO WE'RE KIND OF EXCITED TO SEE HOW THAT CHANGE OF DATE WILL HELP OUT OUR COUNTY FAIR.

SO WITH ALL THAT SAID AND DONE, UM, THE LAST THING THAT IS REALLY EXCITING TO DO IS OUR FOOD CHALLENGE TEAMS HAVE JUST CAME BACK.

UH, THEY PLACED THIRD AT THE STATE FAIR, TEXAS, UH, VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

THEN THEY WENT INTO THE HEART OF TEXAS AND PLACED FIRST IN FOOD NEW, UH, FIRST IN NUTRITIOUS SNACKS.

AND THEN DUE TO THEIR SCORES, THEY WENT BACK IN FOR THEIR FINAL ROUND WAS RESERVE CHAMPION OVERALL.

WOW.

AND SO THEIR NEXT CONTEST IS COMING UP IN THREE WEEKS, UM, FOR THE DISTRICT CONTEST.

SO WE'LL SEE HOW THEY ROLL INTO THAT.

SO THAT IS WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW WITH OUR KIDS, UM, WHERE PROGRAMS ARE GROWING, UM, HAVING A REALLY GOOD TIME WITH EVERYBODY.

UM, AND THE LEADERS ARE DOING AN ASTRONOMICAL JOB OF REACHING OUT AND VOLUNTEERING ON THE CURRICULUM.

ENRICH FRONT, WE HAVE ALREADY HATCHED OUT 33, UH, HATCHES OF EGGS IN KEMP AND THEN ALL, UH, ALL OF THE, UH, ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS IN, UH, FORNEY ALREADY.

AND SO WE'RE ALSO STARTING OFF IN TARELL.

UH, WE'RE GOING BACK THROUGH ANOTHER GRADE IN, IN FORNEY.

AND THEN THIS WEEK WE ACTUALLY START OFF WITH THE WATER STREAM TRAILER, WHICH WILL TRAVEL AROUND TO ALL THE SCHOOLS IN, UH, FORNEY, TARELL, KEMP.

AND WE'LL REACH OUT TO ALL THOSE SCHOOLS.

SO BY THE END OF NOVEMBER 17TH, WE SHOULD REACH OUT TO, UM, 118 THIRD TO FOURTH GRADE CLASSES.

WOW.

SO, ANY QUESTIONS? THAT'S A LOT OF, A LOT OF KIDS.

I'M SORRY TO SAY.

IS THAT ALL? BUT I GUESS THAT'S, THAT'S, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO.

GREAT WORK.

YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

Y'ALL.

THANK THANK YOU TONY.

UM, SO IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THEM, IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE QUARTERLY REPORT AS PRESENTED? I'LL MAKE OKAY.

A MOTION WITH A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER BARBER.

IS THERE.

SECOND? SECOND.

SECOND.

COMMISSIONER HUNT.

DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY OF SAYING AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

[5. Pam Corder; Discuss/Consider signing the 2023 Kaufman County Resolution for the Indigent Defense Formula Grant Program through Texas Indigent Defense Commission.]

GOOD MORNING.

HOW ARE Y'ALL? GOOD.

GOOD.

AND THIS NICE, COOL MORNING.

SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE DO EVERY YEAR.

UM, WE WON'T KNOW WHAT THE BASE OR WHAT THE PAY THE AMOUNT WILL BE,

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SO WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR THAT.

BUT THIS IS FORMULATED ON 50% OF THE COUNTY'S PERCENT OF THE STATE POPULATION AND 50% OF THE COUNTY'S PERCENT, UM, OF A STATEWIDE DIRECT INDIGENT DEFENSE EXPENDITURES.

UM, IN THE PAST, WE'VE RECEIVED SOMEWHERE AROUND 180,000.

KAREN, IS THAT ABOUT CORRECT.

TO REIMBURSE OUR INDIGENT EXPENSES? SO THAT'S WHAT IT IS TO TRY TO COVER SOME OF THOSE EXPENSES.

IT DOESN'T COVER IT ALL, BUT IT DOES HELP COVER SOME OF IT.

YES.

SO WE JUST NEED THAT RESOLUTION, UM, APPROVED SO THAT WE CAN GET THAT TO THE STATE.

QUESTIONS SIGN AWAY.

SO IF THERE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SIGNING OF THAT RESOLUTION IS PRESENTED IN ITEM FIVE, WHETHER MOTION COMMISSIONER HUNT.

IS THERE A SECOND? UH, SECOND.

SECOND.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION? THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

OPPOS? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UM, NEXT UP, WE'RE STILL, DON'T, Y'ALL DON'T LET ME FORGET TO GO BACK TO, WE'RE STILL WAITING ON JUDGE RICH.

I DON'T THINK HE'S TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IT.

I DON'T, SO IF WE WANNA GO AHEAD, I'M GLAD TO PRESENT IT.

I DON'T THINK JUDGE RICH OR DA WILEY WILL BE HERE.

OKAY.

[3. Judge Rich/DA's Office - Discuss/Consider/Approve Memorandum of Understanding between Kaufman County and the North Texas Behavioral Health Authority.]

THANK YOU.

SO THIS IS A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN, UM, KAUFMAN COUNTY, TEXAS, AND THE NORTH TEXAS BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AUTHORITY.

AND WHAT IT BASICALLY PROVIDES FOR IS FOR NPA TO PROVIDE BASICALLY A MENTAL HEALTH COORDINATOR.

AND, UM, THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THIS POSITION ARE IN THE AGREEMENT OUTLINED IN, UM, SECTION FOUR, ITEMS ONE THROUGH 12.

I CAN READ THOSE IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION.

IT'S JUST WHATEVER YOU ALL WOULD LIKE.

BUT, UM, PROBABLY MOST IMPORTANTLY, THERE'S NO FINANCIAL IMPACT TO THE COUNTY.

NIPA WILL PROVIDE THIS PERSON.

AND, UM, I BELIEVE THAT JUDGE RICH WILL BE IN CHARGE OF KIND OF HEADING UP THIS MENTAL HEALTH COORDINATOR PROGRAM.

AND, UM, NEBA HAS SIGNED OFF ON IT.

CAROL LUCKY HAS SIGNED.

SO WE'RE JUST PRESENTING IT TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT FOR YOUR APPROVAL.

AND, UM, AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I WILL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER THEM.

NANCY BLOOM IS HERE WITH MORE TEXAS BEHAVIORAL HEALTH TOO.

OKAY.

AND IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD, WE, OF COURSE, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LOT DURING BUDGET, AND I THINK COMMISSIONERS ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH WHAT, WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.

UM, ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? KAREN, UH, PRESUMPTIVELY, SINCE JUDGE RICH WAS GONNA PRESENT IT, HE, HE, UH, DOES HE FEEL THAT THAT MOU SATISFIES THE, THE, THE NEED THAT HE SAW IN HIS COURT WITH HIS COURT COORDINATOR? I BELIEVE SO, BECAUSE, UM, BASICALLY I WORKED WITH JUDGE WILEY AND WITH JUDGE RICH AND WE WENT THROUGH AND BASICALLY PREPARED THE MOU TOGETHER.

AND SO I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE HIS BLESSING ON IT.

UM, NOT ABLE TO READ HIS MIND, BUT UNDERSTAND, BUT, UM, UNDERSTAND.

BUT IT, BUT IT HAS, IT HAS BEEN COORDINATED AND WORKED TOGETHER.

THE WHOLE MOU HAS BETWEEN N BUT JUDGE RICH AND JUDGE WILEY AND I AND, AND THE WHERE WILL THE POSITION ACTUALLY BE PHYSICALLY LOCATED? WHEREVER THE JUDGE PLACES THAT PERSON.

OKAY.

AND HE WILL BE THE PERSON THAT ALSO HIRES THE PERSON.

SO THAT WOULD BE IN COUNTY WORKSPACE SOMEWHERE, IS THAT CORRECT? MM-HMM.

.

YEAH, IT WOULD BE IN THE JUSTICE CENTER SOMEWHERE.

YEAH.

THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT MY UNDERSTANDING IS.

IT'LL BE SOMEWHERE WITH, WITH COUNTY COURT OF LAW TOO.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? JUDGE, CAN I SAY SOMETHING? SURE.

DURING BUDGET WE BUDGETED FOR THAT POSITION AND THEN THERE WAS TALK OF A MUTUAL AGREEMENT.

SO THERE'S SOME SAVINGS THERE THAT WE WON'T HAVE TO SPEND.

OKAY.

UM, OKAY THEN IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN KAUFLIN COUNTY AND, UH, NPA AS PRESENTED? SO MOVED.

WE HAVE THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER KATES.

IS THERE A SECOND? NO, SECOND.

SECOND.

FROM COMMISSIONER BARBER.

DISCUSSION, THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY THE SAYING.

AYE.

AYE.

OPPOS? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

[6. Deputy Chief John Holcomb; Discuss CareFlite dispatch procedures.]

SO WE'LL HAVE SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS TODAY.

GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING.

MORNING.

I THINK THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE, IT'S BEEN A WHILE.

Y'ALL WERE SITTING OVER THERE.

WALKED IN.

A LITTLE DIFFERENT, IT'S BEEN A WHILE BACK.

YES, SIR.

, UH, ARM JUDGE AND COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

THANK Y'ALL FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME SPEAK, UH, THIS MORNING.

WANNA START OUT BY THANKING Y'ALL FOR Y'ALL'S CONTINUED SUPPORT OF THE KALIN COUNTY FIRE CHIEFS FIREFIGHTERS ASSOCIATION.

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UH, WE'VE COMPLETED THE BURN HOUSE AND THE CAR FIRE PROJECT.

SO WITH Y'ALL'S SUPPORT, UH, ESD NUMBER TWO IN CITY OF MAYBANK, WE'VE GOT THEM PROJECTS UP AND GOING.

UH, THE BURN HOUSE WE ACTUALLY USED LAST NIGHT, MAYBANK AND KEMP FIRE DEPARTMENTS, UH, DID A JOINT, UH, TRAINING.

I THINK WE GOT HOME ABOUT 10 30 LAST NIGHT.

UH, ALSO WITH SOME OF THAT MONEY, WE, UH, WITH TERRELL V VFD, UH, CHIEF VANWINKLE, UH, WE BOUGHT A FORCEABLE ENTRY TRAILER.

SO IT'S GOT TWO DOORS ON IT.

UH, IT'S MOUNTED ON A TRAILER SO THAT TRAILER'S ABLE TO TRAVEL AROUND THE COUNTY FOR THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS TO USE.

AND CURRENTLY, UH, WITH CHIEF PHILLIPS, WITH THE COLLEGE MOUND, THESE BOTH GOT GRANTS.

AND THEN WE USE THE GRANTS PLUS THE MONEY Y'ALL HAVE PROVIDED.

UH, WE'RE BUILDING A VENTILATION TRAILER.

AGAIN, IT'LL BE A FLAT WHERE IT CAN RAISE UP ON AN ANGLE.

SO THAT'S IN THE PROCESS OF BEING BUILT.

IT'LL ALSO BE AVAILABLE TO ALL THE COUNTY, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENTS.

ALSO A WHILE BACK, THE KEMP AND MAYBANK FIRE DEPARTMENTS, UH, BOUGHT A MAYDAY TRAILER.

SO THIS TRAILER'S ALSO AVAILABLE.

IT'S PORTABLE DEPARTMENTS COME GET 'EM, TAKE 'EM FOR THEIR TRAINING.

SO, UH, SO AGAIN, IT'S GIVEN DEPARTMENTS A LOT OF, UH, TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES HERE IN THE COUNTY.

THEY JUST TRAVEL TO MAYBANK.

UH, THE ONLY THING THEY'RE OUT OF IS THE HAY IT COSTS TO, TO DO THE BURN PROJECTS.

UH, A LOT OF, UH, CITIES AROUND THE METROPLEX, THEY CHARGE ABOUT 1800 TO 2000 A DAY TO USE THEIR FIELDS.

SO THIS IS A LOT OF INEXPENSIVE TRAINING FOR THE DEPARTMENTS HERE IN THE COUNTY.

SO AGAIN, I WANNA THANK Y'ALL FOR THAT, UH, OPPORTUNITY.

HOPEFULLY STARTING IN JANUARY, WE'RE GONNA RUN A, UH, UH, FIRE ACADEMY THROUGH THERE WHERE THEY DO ALL THEIR COURSEWORK ONLINE.

AND THEN IT'LL SHOW UP A SATURDAY, A MONTH AND MAY BACK TO DO ALL THEIR SKILLS.

SO IT STARTS IN JANUARY, THEN BY AUGUST 1ST IT'LL BE COMPLETED.

AND THEN MIDDLE OF AUGUST, CARELY DOES THE EMT CLASS.

SO WITH THAT, WE CAN GET SOME OF THE VOLUNTEERS TRAINED TO FIREFIGHTER EMT WITHIN A YEAR OF COMING ON THEIR DEPARTMENT.

SO, UH, WE'RE IN THE FINAL STAGES OF GETTING OUT ALL SET UP WITH THE STATE, UH, SO TO RUN THROUGH THE SF FM A AND HOPEFULLY NEXT YEAR WE CAN ALSO GET IT UNDER THE COMMISSION ON FIRE PROTECTION.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE, WE'RE STRIVING TO GET TO.

SO AGAIN, THANK Y'ALL FOR Y'ALL'S SUPPORT.

SURE.

RIGHT.

UM, SO WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT CARE FLIGHT THIS MORNING SO THAT OUR, THE CHIEFS AND THE FIREFIGHTER ASSOCIATION MEET ON A QUARTERLY BASIS.

AND DURING THAT QUARTERLY, UH, MEETING, THE, UH, CARE FLIGHTS THERE, THE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT DISPATCH, UH, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, COUNTY FIRE MARSHALS.

SO EVERYBODY'S THERE IN ONE ROOM.

THEY GIVE REPORTS AND AT THE END, UH, ANY OF THE CHIEFS CAN ASK THEM QUESTIONS.

UH, SO DURING, UH, LIEUTENANT HALL'S REPORT THIS LAST MEETING IT WITH DISPATCH, SHE BROUGHT UP THAT, UH, WELL THERE'S BEEN AN ISSUE FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS OF CARE FLIGHT NOT CHECKING EN ROUTE TO THESE CALLS.

SO THE DEPARTMENT'S GETTING ROUTE AND THEY CHECK FOR AN ETA.

WELL, LIEUTENANT HALL STATED THAT HERE LATELY, EVERY TIME THEY CALL CARE FLIGHT TO GET AN ETA ON THE AMBULANCE, THEY GET PUT ON HOLD.

SO, UH, AND THEN THEY GET BACK ON THE PHONE ONCE CARE FLIGHT'S CHECKED ON SCENE.

SO THAT POINT, STEVE AND A COUPLE OF THE CHIEFS HAD A PRETTY SPIRITED DEBATE AND I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.

UM, SO WE, WE GOT THROUGH THAT PART AND THEN, UH, WHEN STEVE COME UP ON HIS REPORT, HE TALKED ABOUT MAYBE WE PUT IN THE CONTRACTOR AT A, WHERE WE START FINDING THEM IF THEY DON'T CHECK IN ROUTE WITH AN ETA.

AND, UH, SO THE CHIEFS, ALL THE CHIEFS PRESENT, I THINK, UH, SCURRY AND CROWN WERE THE ONLY DEPARTMENT'S NOT REPRESENTED THAT DAY.

THAT'S IN THE, THE CONTRACT.

THEY ALL MADE A MOTION TO SECOND FOR US TO SUPPORT THAT, UH, FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.

AND IT'S REAL IMPORTANT THAT CUZ THE ONLY ALS ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT FIRST RESPONDERS IN IN THE COUNTY IS TER AND 40 EVERYBODY ELSE'S BLS.

SO WE NEED TO KNOW IS OUR AMBULANCE FIVE MINUTES OUT OR IS IT 40 MINUTES OUT? SO WE KNOW WHEN WE GET THERE WHETHER WE NEED TO GET REAL BUSY OR JUST GO IN THERE AND START CHECKING SOME VITALS.

NOW I USE THAT EXAMPLE AS, UH, A FEW WEEKS BACK IN MAYBANK.

WE HAD A CPR OUT IN NORTH OF TOWN AND WE GOT A SECOND CPR IN, IN THE CITY, WHETHER THAT AMBULANCE CHECKED IN ROUTE FROM FORNEY.

SO IT WAS A 40 MINUTE ETA ON A CPR.

LUCKILY WHEN WE GOT THERE SHE WAS BREATHING, HAD A, HAD A PULSE.

BUT AGAIN, WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT AMBULANCE IS COMING AND WHAT'S THEIR ETA.

AND I KNOW OUR DISPATCH IS SHORTHANDED A LOT OF TIMES THEY GOT A LOT OF NEW PEOPLE AND FOR THEM TO SIT THERE ON A PHONE, UH, AND WAITING ON THEM TO GET AN ETA IS, IS KIND OF RIDICULOUS THIS TIME AND DATE.

YET OUR COUNTY'S GROWING.

MOST OF OUR DEPARTMENTS ARE STILL ALL VOLUNTEERING IN THE COUNTY.

UH, SO IT'S SOMETHING, I THINK IT'S A SIMPLE DEAL.

SO, I MEAN I TALKED TO SHERIFF BEAVERS, HE'S GIVING THEM THE ACCESS ON THE, THE COUNTY RADIO SYSTEM TO BE ABLE TO

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CHECKING ROUTE WITH AN ETA.

NOW THERE ARE RESPONSE TIMES THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET WITH THE CONTRACT.

YES.

I THINK THAT'S AN AVERAGE DEAL AND I KNOW STEVE TAKES CARE OF THAT PART OF IT.

SO, UH, I KNOW THAT SOME PRIVATE ENTERPRISE, SOME PRIVATE EMS, THEY USE A DIFFERENT CALCULATION FOR THEIR RESPONSE TIMES THEN WE DID IT IN THE FIRE SERVICE.

YES.

SO, I MEAN TO KIND OF PLAY WITH NUMBERS, BUT, UH, I IS THERE AS A SOLUTION AS SIMPLE AS I GUESS CARE FLIGHTS HERE, THIS IS A SIMPLE SOLUTION WHERE Y'ALL CHECKING ROUTE WITH THE COUNTY RADIOS.

YEAH.

WHY DON'T YOU COME UP AND HAVE AND GIVE IT.

YEAH.

GIVE US Y'ALL SUGGEST ABOUT IT.

I GUESS I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED ANYWAY CUZ WE HAVE A CONSOLE.

DON'T YOU HAVE A CONSOLE IN 9 1 1? UM, IN KAUFMAN WE DON'T, WE HAVE OUR CONSOLES ARE ALL IN GP.

THEY'RE REMOTE.

MM-HMM .

SO WORKING WITH LIEUTENANT HALL, WE ACTUALLY ONCE UM, I GOT THE COMPLAINT, WE ACTUALLY STARTED WORKING ON IT.

AND AT THE TIME OF THE COMPLAINT WHERE YOU ACTUALLY, UM, CALLED ON SCENE 92.09% OF THE TIME, FROM THE CALLS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED, UM, THERE IS SOME HUMAN ERROR ALWAYS IN ANYTHING THAT WE DO.

UM, SO TRYING TO GET TO A HUNDRED PERCENT IS DEADLY.

OUR GOAL.

USUALLY IT'S NOT FEASIBLE.

THERE'S ALWAYS A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON.

ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE A CPR OR SOMETHING THEN TO CALL CURB FLIGHT, THEN CURB FLIGHT, UM, THEN THEM CALL COUNTY AND SWITCH OVER.

UM, AS HEATHER SAYS THAT IF THEY'RE SWITCHED OVER ON THEIR END, THEY WON'T HEAR US CALL IN.

SO THERE IS A PERCENT THERE THAT THE DISPATCHERS DON'T HEAR WHEN WE CALL NOW CURE FLIGHT, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE HELICOPTER, RIGHT? UM, YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THES GROUND, GROUND, GROUND.

OKAY.

YES SIR.

AND HE, HE JUST STAYED THERE ON SCENE.

OUR MAIN PURPOSE HERE IS TO CHECK IN OUT AND GIVE US AN ETA.

YEAH.

WE, WE DON'T CARE IF THEY CHECK ON SCENE CAUSE WE'RE ALREADY THERE.

RIGHT.

SO IF YOU'RE FIVE MINUTES OUT OR 40 MINUTES OUT, WE WANT TO KNOW.

SO AS SOON AS THEY CHECKING HER OUT, THEY CAN LET DISPATCH KNOW THAT THE SEND AS A DEPARTMENT CHECKING ROUTE THING, SAY THIS AMBULANCE IS COMING AND THEY'RE FIVE MINUTES OUT OR 40 MINUTES OUT.

SURE.

AND THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR, LIKE I SAID, WE MEET QUARTERLY IN EVERY QUARTER MEETING.

THIS IS BROUGHT UP.

AND CARE FLAT'S REAL GOOD FOR ABOUT TWO WEEKS OF CHECKING IN ROUTE AS OF THIS, WHEN THEY KNEW I WAS GONNA COME SEE Y'ALL ACROSS THE COUNTY, YOU HEARD EVERY AMBULANCE CHECKING IN ROUTE.

BUT NOW IT'S STARTING TO GO BACK TO NOBODY CHECKING IN ROUTE AND LIEUTENANT HALL'S KEEPING UP WITH IT.

AND I'VE GOT A LIST OF UP TILL YESTERDAY OF HOW MANY ANALYSTS DID NOT CHECK IN ROUTE.

SO IT'S A SIMPLE THING, CHECKING ROUTE WITH AN ETA.

SO, SO I JUST GOT BACK INTO THE COUNTY ABOUT EIGHT MONTHS AGO.

UM, UM, I'M ACTUALLY THE OPERATION MANAGER FOR ALL THE CARELY GROUND.

SO ROB SCOTT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW HIM, HE, UM, BECOME OUR EDUCATOR.

SO KIND OF MOVED ME INTO THIS COUNTY.

I STARTED WORKING ON IT THEN.

UM, I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING, NOTHING WAS EVER TOLD TO ME THAT IT WASN'T BEING DONE.

THE ONLY WAY THAT WE KNOW IT'S NOT BEING DONE IS IF LIEUTENANT HALL DISPATCH OR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TELLS US THOSE PEOPLE IS AT EVERY COUNTY MEETING.

IT'S BROUGHT UP IN EVERY MEETING.

THE FIRST TIME THAT IT WAS BROUGHT UP AGAIN WAS AFTER THE CHIEF'S MEETING IS WHENEVER I ACTUALLY GOT WITH LIEUTENANT HALL AND WE STARTED WORKING IN DEPTH.

RIGHT NOW WE UM, AS OF LAST WEEK WE'RE AT 94.16% OF EVERY CALL THAT'S COMING IN.

UM, WE'LL CONTINUE THAT.

UM, THERE IS STILL A HUMAN FACTOR IN THAT.

SO, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT A LOGIS SYSTEM RIGHT NOW THAT WOULD ACTUALLY GO INTO THE KAUFMAN COUNTY DISPATCH.

THAT WAY THEY KNOW ALL OF OUR ETA'S EXACTLY WHAT OUR UNITS ARE DOING, WHERE THEY'RE AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN ETA'S WITHOUT OUR CREWS HAVING A CALL.

SO THAT'LL BE AN ULTIMATE FIX.

UM, IT'S IN THE BUDGET, THE CAPITAL BUDGET THIS YEAR.

WE'RE HAVING OUR LAST MEETING WITH LOIS NEXT WEEK.

SO AFTER THAT IT'S GONNA TAKE ABOUT SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS TO IMPLEMENT.

UM, REPLACING OUR ENTIRE CUT SYSTEM.

AND THEN THAT'LL GIVE THE ABILITY FOR THE FIRE CHIEFS TO ACTUALLY LOOK ON THEIR PHONE TOO AND ACTUALLY SEE IF EVERYTHING WORKS OUT THE WAY IT SHOULD.

THEY CAN LOOK AND SEE WHERE THEY'RE, WHERE WE'RE AT, HOW FAR WE'RE AWAY, ANY OF THE INFORMATION THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR.

NOW YOUR YOUR PEOPLE, Y'ALL CHECKING ROUTE WITH THE MDC OR DO Y'ALL, THEY CHECKING ROUTE WITH BOTH CARE FLIGHT AND THEN THEY SWITCH OVER AND THEN CHECKING ROUTE WITH COFFIN AND THEN SWITCH BACK OVER TO CARE FLIGHT? WELL YOU JUST NEED TO ASK YOUR PEOPLE TO CHECK IN ROUTE.

YES SIR.

AND HOLD 'EM ACCOUNTABLE.

YES, SIR.

I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THAT'S WHY I'M, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A PERCENT THERE BECAUSE KAUFMAN ALSO SWITCHES OVER TO BETWEEN CHANNELS AND AS HEATHER SAID, SOME OF THAT PERCENTAGE IS US BEING ON A DIFFERENT CHANNEL WHENEVER THEY SWITCH IN.

SO WE SWITCH OVER TO KAUFMAN CALLING ROUTE.

UM, IF THEY DON'T HEAR IT BECAUSE THEY'RE ON ANOTHER CHANNEL, WELL WE SWITCH BACK TO CARE FLIGHT TO OUR MAIN CHANNEL.

SO THERE'S A PERCENTAGE HERE THAT WE CALLED IN, BUT WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY GET ANY RESPONSE.

SO YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S ALWAYS GONNA BE THE POTENTIAL THAT SOMEBODY'S GONNA, ONE OR OTHER IS GONNA BE ON THE WRONG CHANNEL UNLESS WE CAN TAKE THE HUMAN FACTOR OUT OF IT OKAY.

AND THEN HAVE IT COMPUTERIZED.

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THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS.

WELL DON'T, I THINK CHIEF FAKIN WISHING THAT THE SYSTEM WOULD BE HERE TOMORROW.

YES, ME TOO.

UM, IT'S ACTUALLY GONNA CHANGE A LOT FOR US.

IT'S, OTHER THAN THAT THERE'S LOTS OF FEATURES THAT IT'S GOT THAT ARE CURRENT CAD SYSTEM DOES NOT.

SO, UM, GOT SIGNED UP FOR A LOGIST TATTOO COMING SOON.

, IT'LL IT'LL BE HUGE.

IT'LL BE HUGE FOR THE COUNTY.

IT'LL BE HUGE FOR CARE FLIGHT AND SO, BUT, BUT WHO, WHO ATTENDS THE MEETINGS WITH THE CHIEF? YOU? SO I DIDN'T ATTEND THIS ONE.

I WISH I WOULD'VE BEEN THERE.

OKAY.

UM, ADAM WAS THERE DURING THE MEETING.

SO ADAM'S A SUPERVISOR.

HE WORKS HAND IN HAND WITH ME.

UM, OVER THE COUNTY IS HERE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, ALONG WITH 24 HOUR SOUPS.

THAT'S WAS ON.

WELL I I DEFINITELY SUGGESTED YOU ATTEND A FEW OF 'EM NOW I WON'T MISS ANOTHER ONE.

I DIDN'T ACTUALLY KNOW ABOUT IT.

SO, UM, FROM THIS POINT FORWARD I'M MAKING SURE I'LL BE AT ALL OF THEM FOR SURE.

WELL THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF THE VOLUNTEER CHIEFS HAVE VENTED ON ME ABOUT STUFF LIKE THIS.

LIKE SAY IT'S PROFIT IS FOR LAST AND EVERY TIME.

I MEAN I, I KNOW A LOT OF FIREFIGHTERS IN THE COUNTY AND, AND I GET VENTED ON A LOT ABOUT THIS OR AND ONE THING THAT I KNOW COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS AND I TALKED ABOUT TRYING TO GET ALL THE FIRE CHIEFS IN ONE ROOM WITH CARE FLIGHT YEAH.

AND HASH IT OUT.

BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THE FIRE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION HAS DONE THAT GOT EVERYBODY IN THE SAME ROOM.

SO YEAH, OUR MAIN JOB IS TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THIS COUNTY AND US CALLING IN DEFINITELY IS WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CITIZENS AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

UM, I CAN'T ANSWER TO WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST.

I CAN ONLY ANSWER WHAT WE'RE DOING GOING FORWARD.

YEAH.

AND UM, I'M WORKING ON IT.

I WOULD LOVE TO PUT YOU IN THE, THE MEETINGS WITH ME TOGETHER AND THEN WE CAN, THAT WAY YOU KIND OF KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS.

I'M ALL ABOUT WHATEVER'S BETTER.

IS THIS NEW SYSTEM, UH, A DONE DEAL, Y'ALL, I MEAN Y'ALL HAVE CONTRACTED IT AND IT'S ON THE WAY.

ONLY THING WE HAVEN'T DONE IS PAY FOR IT.

UM, THE REASON IT TAKES SO LONG TO CHANGE IS CUZ OUR CAD SYSTEMS, WE'VE BEEN USING IT SINCE 92.

UM, AND IT'S A BIG, IT'S AN OVERWHELMING UNDERTAKING TO ACTUALLY SWITCH CAD SYSTEMS OUT, BUT IT'S A NECESSITY.

SO WE'RE GOING FORWARD THROUGH IT.

UM, IT'S GONNA COST A LOT OF MONEY UP FRONT THEN IT'LL LEVEL OUT.

UM, A LOT OF MONEY UP FRONT'S GONNA REALLY GONNA BE A LOT TO DO WITH TRAINING AND STUFF TOO.

SO WHAT ARE THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE TO BE ABLE TO, TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE IT? THEY WON'T.

IT SHOULD, IT WILL UM, TIE IN WITH THE CAD SYSTEM THAT, UM, KAUFMAN HAS NOW.

SO IT SHOULDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO OTHER THAN MAYBE PUTTING A NEW TV SCREEN UP IN THE UM, COMMUNICATIONS CENTER, BUT IT ALSO WORKS ON THEIR PHONE.

YES.

WE'RE STILL WORKING THAT OUT.

BUT THAT'S THE PLAN.

YES.

SO THAT HE'LL ACTUALLY KNOW ALL THE TIME.

YEAH.

CAUSE TRANSPARENCY IS SOMETHING THAT I'M REAL BIG ABOUT.

HONESTY AND UM, I WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT.

THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE YOUR CITIZENS AND I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU GOTTA FIGHT FOR EVERYTHING FOR HIM.

WE WANT TO BE THERE WITH YOU.

SO IN THE MEANTIME, WHAT THE PLAN IS IS TRY TO GET YOUR GUYS TO BE MORE ACCOUNTABLE AND FOLLOWING UP TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE CHECKING IN.

RIGHT.

SO WE HAVE ADAM, ALTHOUGH HE IS NOT LISTENING TODAY, HE LISTENS TO THE CHANNEL ALL DAY.

UM, ANYONE MISSES IT, HE CALLS 'EM DIRECTLY.

UM, AND SAME WAY WITH A 24 HOUR SUIT.

SO WE HAVE MUL MULTIPLE PEOPLE LISTENING TO YOUR CHANNEL THROUGHOUT THE DAY.

UM, I MEAN, PERFECT WORLD, IT'D BE GREAT IF WE WAS ALL ON THE SAME CHANNEL, BUT THAT AIN'T GONNA TIE IN CUZ THERE'S MULTIPLE CHANNELS INSIDE THIS, UM, IN INSIDE KAUFMAN ITSELF TOO, SO.

WELL I KNOW OUR CHIEF OVER THERE, NOT JUST CHIEF OAKLAND, BUT HIS BOSS.

I'VE HAD A COUPLE CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM AND ME AND MIKE'S TALKED ABOUT IT.

SURE.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE, YOU'RE TRYING AND YOU'RE MOVING THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

I THINK THE COMMUNICATION JUST NEEDS TO STAY REALLY, REALLY CLOSE AND EVERYBODY TO STAY ON THE SAME PAGE AND I THINK COMMUNICATION'S THE BEST THING.

ABSOLUTELY.

WHEN DO YOU EXPECT THIS NEW SYSTEM TO BE AN IMPORTANT? UM, I LIKE TO SEE SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS I THINK IS GONNA BE FEASIBLE.

UM, BUT THAT'S GIVING ANYTHING UM, HAPPENING ALONG THOSE, THOSE TERMS. LIKE I SAID, IT'S PRETTY BIG UNDERTAKING.

UM, IT HAS A LOT OF AI CAPABILITIES, SO IT'S GONNA TAKE SIX MONTHS JUST FOR THE A THE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENT PIECE TO ACTUALLY START PULLING DATA IN.

I THINK IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA, UM, FOR MAYBE 90 DAYS COME BACK AND SEE US AGAIN AND SEE HOW THINGS ARE GOING.

SURE, OKAY.

YEAH.

CUZ THIS, LIKE I SAY, THIS IS NOT A NEW ISSUE.

UH, WHEN THEY FIRST TOOK OVER FOR, UH, EAST TEXAS, THEY WERE GONNA HAVE A DISPATCHER IN OUR DISPATCHER THAT NEVER HAPPENED.

SO NOT DOWN, CAREFUL OUT THERE DOING A GREAT JOB, BUT A LOT BETTER THAN WHAT

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BUT OUR COUNTY'S GROWING AND WE'VE GOTTA, AGAIN, IF OUR EMPHASIS IS 40 MINUTES OUT OR FIVE MINUTES OUT, WE'VE GOTTA KNOW AND YEAH.

THE, THE EXCUSE OF WELL OUR PEOPLE FORGET.

WELL AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A NEW EVERY FOR, LIKE I SAID, I'VE BEEN PRESIDENT ASSOCIATION FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS NOW AND AT THE BEGINNING THEY DID GREAT.

KINDA LIKE EVERY OTHER THIRD PARTY ANALYST COMPANY'S COME IN OUR COUNTY.

I'VE BEEN VOLUNTEERING MAYBANK SINCE 90.

SO THAT WAS BACK IN THE A ONE DAYS AND CENTRAL ANALYST DAYS.

AND WHEN THEY FIRST COME IN, THEY DO A GREAT JOB, THEN THEY START SLACKING OFF.

SO I, I'M TRYING TO SYNC UP THE NEXT TIME Y'ALL COME WOULD BE SHORTLY AFTER THE CHIEF'S MEETING.

SO WHEN IS, WHAT IS, WHEN IS Y'ALL'S REGULAR? THE SECOND WEDNESDAY OF THE, SO SECOND WEDNESDAY OF DECEMBER WILL BE OUR NEXT MEETING.

OKAY.

SO WE WILL DO IT THE THIRD, WE'LL PLAN THE THIRD IF THAT WORKS OUT WITH A DATE.

WE'LL TRY TO DO IT ON THE THIRD TUESDAY TO HAVE YOU GUYS BACK AND DO A CHECK IN AFTER YOUR CHIEF'S MEETING.

AND THEN WE'LL KIND OF SEE HOW THINGS ARE GOING AND I SHOULD ADD A PREVIEW UPDATE AND MAYBE I CAN BRING OUR COMMUNICATION MANAGER WITH ME AND HE CAN EXPLAIN THIS LOAD JUST A LITTLE BIT BETTER FOR EVERYONE.

OKAY.

THAT'D BE GOOD.

ANOTHER THING THEY'RE ASKING TOO, WHILE WE'RE ON IT, IS WHEN THEY SHUT AN AMBULANCE DOWN FOR LACK OF MANPOWER OR MAINTENANCE OF THAT, LETTING THAT FIRE CHIEF KNOW THAT THAT AMBULANCE IS NOT THERE.

SO IF THEY SHUT THE MAYBANK TRUCK DOWN OR THE, THE NORTH FORNEY TRUCK DOWN, SOMEHOW WE NEED TO COMMUNICATE TO THEM CHIEFS OR IF IT'S THE KEMP TRUCK, THEY NEED TO COMMUNICATE WITH CHIEF HICKS, LET 'EM KNOW THAT OUR, THAT NOBODY'S NOT, THEY KNOW IT'S NOT THERE.

YEAH.

IT'S NOT THERE.

AND THEN WE, THEY SEND OUT A DEAL TO THE VOLUNTEERS.

HEY, WE DON'T HAVE AN ANALYST HERE.

SO I BELIEVE ADAM'S BEEN DOING THAT FOR ABOUT THE LAST TWO MONTHS TO, UM, MULTIPLE DIFFERENT CHIEFS SAYING, I HAVEN'T THIS ONE OR TWO HERE.

OKAY.

CAUSE LET'S FIX IT AIN'T HAPPENING.

HUNDRED TERRIBLE REPORT EVERY DAY.

AND I SEND COPY REPORT EVERY DAY, IF ANYTHING.

WELL, THEY'VE GOT THEIR OWN CONTRACTS, SO SHUT DOWN.

WE WON'T WELL THE AFTER THIS, WHEN YOU SHUT ONE DOWN, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY REPLACEMENTS.

YEAH, I SAID DOES THE, THE CONTRACT SPECIFIES HOW MANY UNITS ARE ON THE GROUND, RIGHT? NO SIR.

SO IT'S JUST, Y'ALL COULD HAVE ONE FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY.

WELL, BY THE CONTRACT, THE CONTRACT IS STATED ON THE WHAT, HOW MANY, HOW, HOW LONG WE CAN TAKE TO GET THERE AND WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THAT TIME.

SO IT REALLY DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO, WE COULD TELL YOU WE HAVE FIVE UNITS UP EVERY DAY, BUT THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN DO THIS COUNTY WITH FIVE UNITS.

SO THE CONTRACT YOU HAVE, AS WE GROW, WE HAVE TO ADD UNITS TO KEEP UP WITH OUR COMPLIANCE.

SO THERE IS A SPECIFIC NUMBER OF CONTRACT UNITS IN THE CONTRACT? NO, NO, THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID.

THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT YOU SAID.

BUT YOU STARTED TALKING ABOUT FIVE.

WELL THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

SO WE TAKE THE CONTRACT PARAMETERS, BUT THERE'S NOT EQUIPMENT, THERE'S NOT EQUIPMENT VACATION.

THE LAST TIME, I THINK LAST YEAR WHEN YOU, Y'ALL CAME, YOU WEREN'T HERE, BUT I MEAN THEY CAME AND THEY, THEY TALKED ABOUT THEY WERE GONNA ADD A ONE AMBULANCE COMPLETELY IN THE POY AREA, ANOTHER ONE AND IT WENT TO IT.

SO IN THE LAST LAST YEAR WE'VE PROBABLY ADDED A COUPLE.

RIGHT.

AND, AND THEY ADDED, AND THAT WAS THE WHOLE POINT.