Nov 01, 2022 Commissioners Court

FIRST ITEM, ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.

DOES ANYONE WITH US HAVE ANY ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE TO SHARE? NO.

[ 2. CONSENT AGENDA]

ITEM TWO, CONSENT AGENDA A THROUGH C.

WOULD A COMMISSIONER CARE TO SPEAK OR MANAGE ANY OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS INDIVIDUALLY? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

WE'LL ADD THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY TO SAYING AYE.

WHY? OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

SO WE'VE GOT SOME, UH, DELAYED FOLKS TO COMING.

SO I AM GOING TO SKIP DOWN SEVEN TO MONIQUE HUNTER, OBJECT TO THE END.

I WAS GONNA YELL AT YOU WHILE AGO, BUT YOU, YOU RAN OUT OR SOMETHING.

SO ITEM

[Items 7 & 8]

SEVEN, MONIQUE CONNOR DISCUSSED, CONSIDER APPROVING THE 9 1 1 ADDRESSING MAINTENANCE PLAN.

I DON'T WANNA MESS THAT UP.

YEAH, I'LL JUST COME TO THE SIDE.

SO, UM, OUR ADDRESSING STANDARDS AND MAINTENANCE, UM, HAVEN'T BEEN UPDATED SINCE.

ONE OF THEM WAS 1998 AND ONE OF 'EM WAS 2000.

SO WE, UH, NEEDED TO GET THAT UPDATED.

UM, IT HAD 9 1 1 GIS IN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT'S OFFICE AND NOT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

SO WE WENT AND CLEANED IT UP.

UM, DEB HAS LOOKED AT IT.

WE ALSO SENT THE NEW STANDARDS TO, UM, NCT BECAUSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY AGREE WITH IT SINCE WE DO, UM, UM, FOLLOW THEIR GUIDELINES.

AND SO I HAVE PRESENTED THOSE TO THE COURT TODAY.

IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE STANDARDS, THEN UM, I CAN TRY TO ANSWER THOSE AS BEST AS POSSIBLE.

IS THIS JUST SOMETHING IS, ARE WE REQUIRED TO DO THIS? OR YOU SHOULD HAVE THAT? NUMBER ONE.

UM, YOU NEED TO KNOW, AND IT, OUR DEVELOPERS NEED TO KNOW HOW WE'RE GONNA BE ADDRESSING.

UM, SOME OF YOU HAVE, UM, PROBABLY BEEN IN CONVERSATIONS WHERE THE DEVELOPERS WANT TO DO SORT OF THE NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST, YOU KNOW, CARDINAL ADDRESSING.

SO BY SETTING THE STANDARD, THEY KNOW HOW TO, WHAT WE'RE, HOW WE'RE GONNA ADDRESS THEIR DEVELOPMENT.

SO SETTING THOSE STANDARDS, HAVING IT ON RECORD, THERE'S NO DISCREPANCIES IN HOW WE'RE GONNA ADDRESS THOSE PROPERTIES.

AND IT ALSO WILL KEEP GROWING, UM, N CT.

AND THAT'LL BE IN MY NEXT REPORT.

UM, WE'RE GONNA BE MOVING TO NEXT GEN, UM, BECAUSE OF THE WAY PEOPLE ANSWER THEIR TELEPHONES NOW, THERE ARE FEWER AND FEWER LANDLINES.

AND SO WE'VE GOT TO MOVE THE STANDARD TO THE MOBILE PHONES.

AND SO THAT JUST KEEPS GROWING AND CHANGING ON HOW WE LOCATE PEOPLE FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES.

SO THIS DOCUMENT WILL PROBABLY BE AMENDED AGAIN SOMETIME IN 2023 WHEN NCT MOVES TO A NEXT GEN SYSTEM.

SO WE'LL BE BRINGING THIS BACK REGULARLY FOR UPDATES AS THE TECHNOLOGY CHANGES.

AND SO THIS FIRST ONE IS THE STANDARDS, AND THEN THE NEXT ITEM IS THE MAINTENANCE ON HOW WE'RE GONNA, I THINK IT'S FLIPPED.

OH, DID I DO IT BACKWARDS? YEP.

I'M SO SORRY.

YEAH, THIS IS, UH, WE'RE ON THE MAINTENANCE.

WELL, ITEM SEVEN WAS THE MAINTENANCE, BUT SO WE CAN COVER 'EM AT THE SAME TIME.

AND THE MAINTENANCE IS JUST HOW WE STORE THAT DATA.

THE NEXT ONE TOO.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

SO LET'S JUST, WELL, SO IF, IF THERE ARE ANYMORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE, UH, STANDARDS AND PROCEDURES ANYMORE, QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? YES.

I THINK IN THE CC, BUT WE, WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SOME OF THE COUNTY ROADS, LIKE ONE OF THEM BY EVANS.

THE STANDARDS, PROCEDURES, YOU KNOW, IT TALKS ABOUT THE ROAD NAMING MM-HMM.

, AND I KNOW I CONTACTED Y'ALL OFFICE AND, AND DAY TWO

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AND WE HAD ANOTHER DEVELOPER THAT NAMED THE SAME COUNTY ROAD ON THE OPPOSITE ENDS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, A MILE AND A HALF, TWO MILES APART ANOTHER ROAD.

SO WE'VE GOT THREE NAMES FOR THE SAME ROAD.

SO IN A PERFECT WORLD, AND WE ARE ARGUING WITH SOME CITIES NOW BECAUSE SOME OF THEM ARE GIVING OUT ADDRESSES AND STREETS WITHOUT GETTING IT RUN THROUGH 9 1 1.

UM, AND SO THEY GIVE THEIR DEVELOPERS AND APPROVE THEIR NAMES AND ADDRESSES, AND THEN THEY HAVE THESE PLATS RECORDED AND THEY NEVER VERIFIED WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S A DUPLICATE IN THIS COUNTY.

AND SO WE ARE GONNA GO OUT FOR ILAS SPECIFICALLY FOR ADDRESSING SO THAT THERE'S A STANDARD WHERE THEY HAVE TO SEND THOSE DEVELOPERS THROUGH US SO THAT WE CAN CHECK TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO DUPLICATES.

BECAUSE IT MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT TO DISPATCH WHEN YOU HAVE NAMES THAT ARE THE SAME.

BUT WE DON'T, DON'T HAVE A LOT OF CONTROL OVER SOME CITIES WHO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ARGUING WITH ONE RIGHT NOW.

WE'VE BEEN ARGUING FOR TWO YEARS ON HOW WE'RE GONNA DO THOSE ADDRESSING.

AND SO, WELL, I MEAN, THIS ONE HERE, WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE SIX YEARS AGO, IT WAS TWO 60 EVANS MM-HMM.

, AND THAT WAS ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF TWO 60.

AND THEN ANOTHER DEVELOPER, AND THEN HOPEFULLY WILL AT LEAST SHUT THAT DOWN WITH NAMING TWO 60 ANOTHER NAME.

AND SO I GUESS ONE, WE PROBABLY STOP THE DEVELOPER, I ASSUME MM-HMM.

FROM NAMING IT THAT.

HOW DO WE RECTIFY THE TWO DIFFERENT ADDRESSES, STREET NAMES AT THE OTHER END? I DON'T KNOW.

I COULD, IS THERE ANY WAY TO RECTIFY? WELL, NOT WITHOUT INCONVENIENCING A LOT OF PEOPLE AND CHANGING THEIR ALL THE TIME.

IT, IT DOES HAPPEN ALL THE TIME.

AND KELLY GETS FRUSTRATED OVER OTHERWISE KNOWN AS, BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE HAVE HAD AN ADDRESS FOR SO LONG AND THEN THEY HAVE NOW IT'S COUNTY ROAD AND THEY DON'T WANNA GIVE UP WHAT THEY'VE HAD FOR 20 YEARS.

AND SHE'S LIKE, WELL, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE ON THE PROPERTY AND THEY JUST CALLED EVANS ROAD.

AND IT JUST KIND OF PROGRESSIVELY OVER TIME BY DEFAULT, IT'S EVAN'S ROAD.

SO I, I JUST, YOU KNOW, ANYWAY, I NOTICED YOU HAD A DEAL IN THE ROAD NAMING AND IT DIDN'T DEAL WITH ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

WHAT THE ILA IS GONNA DEAL WITH THAT, WE'RE GONNA GO OUT, YOU KNOW HOW WE HAVE THE, FOR EJS WE'RE GONNA, AND WE HAVE A DRAFT READY TO GO OUT TO ALL THE CITIES AND, UM, SO THAT THEY CAN, WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT THAT WE'RE GONNA ADDRESS FOR THEM.

SO THEY DON'T CREATE DUPLICATES.

THEY DON'T CREATE PROBLEMS. BUT THIS IS IN THE COUNTY.

YEAH, THIS ROAD IS ACTUALLY IN THE COUNTY.

OH, IT IS? YES.

WHEN WAS IT, WHEN WAS IT? I NEED TO GO BACK AND LOOK WHEN IT WAS ADDRESSED.

THE, THE OTHER SECTION, UH, I DON'T KNOW, I GUESS HOW LONG AGO WAS THAT? I SENT THE EMAIL MAYBE SIX MONTHS AGO.

WHENEVER THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE COULDN'T TRACK DOWN WHERE THE DEVELOPER WAS GONNA START DOING THE ROAD.

BECAUSE HE WAS CALLING IT SOMETHING ELSE.

NOW WE FINALLY NARROWED IT DOWN.

IT WAS TWO 60.

OH, THAT'S THAT DEVELOPMENT.

AND THEN, BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE PROBLEM THAT'S BEEN ONGOING ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF TWO 60.

SO, AND YOU HAVE MULTIPLE DEVELOPERS THERE.

YOU HAVE DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS THERE.

YEP.

TWO DIFFERENT ONES.

ALL I SEE IS I'LL GET BACK AND IS NIGHTMARE UNLESS WE TRY TO DEAL WITH IT.

BUT NO, I'LL GET, GET WITH KELLY ON THAT ONE.

SEE WHAT WE'RE DOING.

ANYTHING ELSE ON ITEM EIGHT? IF NOT, IS THERE SEVEN? SEVEN? WELL, I MEAN, WE WERE DISCUSSING EIGHT, RIGHT? NO, BUT WE DISCUSSED SEVEN FIRST.

I CONFUSED HIM.

I GUESS WE WENT THROUGH BOTH OF THEM.

DID WE, MONIQUE, ARE YOU SATISFIED THAT WE COVERED BOTH OF THOSE? I BELIEVE WE DID.

THEN I'LL, UH, SAY, IS THERE A MOTION, UH, TO APPROVE THE 9 1 1 ADDRESSING MAINTENANCE PLAN? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

WE HAVE THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND.

COMMISSIONER BARBARA, DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

WE'LL LET YOU FINISH UP HERE.

OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

IS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ADDRESSING STANDARDS AND PROCEDURES AS PRESENTED IN ITEM EIGHT? I MIGHT THAT MOTION WITH A MOTION COMMISSIONER HUNT.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION, THOSE IN FAVOR ARE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

UH, OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

AND LAST FOR MONIQUE,

[9. Monique Hunter; Present/Accept Quarterly Reports for the third and fourth quarters of 2022.]

PRESENT FOR ACCEPTANCE QUARTERLY REPORTS FOR THE THIRD AND FOURTH QUARTERS OF 2022.

YEP.

I'M LATE.

BEEN KIND OF BUSY.

TOTALLY FORGOT ABOUT ONE.

SORRY.

UM, SO YOU GUYS CAN SEE THE NUMBERS.

UM, THEY'RE PRETTY STEADY.

THEY KIND OF STAY THE SAME LAST YEAR.

THIS YEAR.

WE'RE STILL MOVING.

WE'RE STILL GOING.

UM, ON THE, UM, THIS, IF YOU LOOK ON THE SECOND PAGE OF THE FOURTH QUARTER, UM, THE ADDRESS IS CREATED.

SEPTEMBER IS PRETTY LOW.

BUT NEXT YEAR OR NEXT MONTH, THE NEXT REPORT YOU'RE GONNA SEE WE'RE DOING 10 SUBDIVISIONS RIGHT NOW ADDRESSING.

SO THOSE NUMBERS ARE GONNA BE SKYROCKETING.

SO JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT IF IT LOOKED A LITTLE WEIRD TO YOU.

UM, I DID BRING JUSTIN SWEETMAN HERE TODAY.

JUSTIN IS, UM, OUR NEW GIS.

HE JOINED US JUNE 22ND.

IF YOU WANNA COME UP,

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JUSTIN, UM, HE'S HERE TO HELP KELLY.

AND HE'S ALSO BEEN A BIG HELP WITH THE WEBSITE.

HE HAS .

UH, DONNA WANTS TO KEEP HIM.

SHE CAN'T.

OKAY, SO JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE'RE CLEAR.

UM, SO JUSTIN WORKED REALLY HARD ON GETTING, UM, UH, WORKING ON THE WEBSITE, GETTING IT WHERE IT IS TODAY AND IT LOOKS PRETTY DARN GOOD.

SO WE'RE PRETTY PROUD OF HIM.

BUT I WANTED HIM TO MEET, YOU KNOW, TO PUT A FACE TO THE NAME.

UM, CUZ HE WILL BE HANDLING A LOT OF 9 1 1 ADDRESSING AS WELL AS THE WEBSITE.

UH, THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES IN YOUR DEPARTMENT TO MAKE THAT WEBSITE DO A LOT OF THINGS.

SO THANKS FOR HELPING ON THAT.

JUSTIN.

YEAH, HE'S DONE GREAT.

HE'S STILL BUGGING ME.

GIVE HIM MORE COFFEE.

KEEP GOING.

SO, UM, SO WE'VE BEEN REALLY BUSY.

WE'VE HAD SEVERAL ENVIRONMENTAL SEPTIC CASES THAT HAVE TIED US DOWN WITH A LOT OF, UH, MANPOWER AND TIME AND EFFORT.

UM, WE DID GET ONE OF THEM IN COMPLIANCE AND THE DOORS ARE OPEN AGAIN.

JERRY AND WAYNE WORKED REALLY HARD ON THESE, PUTTING A LOT OF EFFORT AND TIME AND, UH, IT PAID OFF BECAUSE THERE'S NO MORE SEWAGE ON THE GROUND THERE, AT LEAST FOR THE TIME BEING.

WE'LL KEEP AN EYE ON IT.

WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE THAT WE'RE WORKING NOW.

UM, THESE ARE LARGE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES THAT HAVE JUST, UM, NEGLECTED THE SEWAGE AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET THEM INTO COMPLIANCE.

UM, WE'VE WORKED REALLY, REALLY HARD WITH THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE.

I THINK WE'RE COMMUNICATING REALLY WELL.

WE DON'T MOVE ON A PROJECT IF WE DON'T GET SOMETHING FROM HIM.

HE DOESN'T MOVE ON A PROJECT.

IF SO, WE ARE COMMUNICATING AND IT'S GREAT CUZ WE'RE NOT SIGNING, THE COUNTY'S NOT SIGNING OFF ON ONE ITEM OF A PROJECT AND THE OTHER SIDE'S NOT COMPLETE YET, OR THE OTHER SIDE ISN'T IN COMPLIANCE.

SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD WITH THAT AND I THINK IT'S GOING GREAT.

SO, UM, THE FIF GRANT, UM, GAR AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH FRI NICHOLS.

UM, I'M SURE HE'S GONNA BE MEETING WITH YOU GUYS INDIVIDUALLY OR WHATEVER FOR YOUR, UH, THE SITES THAT THEY DEEMED THE PROBLEM CHILDREN, UM, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO, UM, PRESENT TO THE TEXAS WATER BOARD.

AND SO GARRETT WILL BE GETTING WITH YOU GUYS TO FIGURE OUT IF THOSE SITES THAT WERE PICKED ARE, YOU KNOW, SINCE YOU GUYS KNOW YOUR PRECINCTS BETTER THAN ANYBODY ELSE, ARE THESE PROBLEM CHILDREN? ARE THESE ONES THAT YOU WANT STUDIED OR YOU WANT MORE DETAIL ON, OR YOU WANT TO BE INCLUDED IN THE GRANT? AND SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT.

TYLER TECHNOLOGIES CAME, UH, THEY FIRST DID A THREE DAY SESSION WITH US VIA ZOOM.

THEN THEY CAME ON SITE FOR THREE DAYS.

SO, UM, AND THEY WILL BE BACK AGAIN FOR ANOTHER THREE DAYS ON THE COMPUTER AND ANOTHER THREE DAYS ON SITE BEFORE THE END OF NOVEMBER.

SO WE ARE MOVING PRETTY QUICKLY.

I THINK THEY SAID WE'RE AHEAD OF SCHEDULE ON THAT.

SO, UM, YEAH, WE'RE TOLD 'EM WE'LL GO AS FAST AS YOU WANT US TO GO.

SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM TO BUILD THE NEW SOFTWARE SO WE CAN GET AWAY FROM THE ANTIQUATED ONES THAT WE HAVE.

UM, WE HAD A LITTLE RENOVATION IN OUR OFFICE TO MAKE ROOM FOR THE NEW DUTIES THAT WE'VE A ACQUIRED.

SO WHEN YOU COME TO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE LOBBY HAS SHRUNK QUITE A BIT, BUT IT'S FOR A GOOD CAUSE.

SO IT WAS WALLED IN AND, AND ANOTHER CONFERENCE ROOM WAS CREATED UP THERE AND IT'S BETTER FOR SAFETY PURPOSES.

SO I THINK THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT SO FAR.

IT'S A LOT.

HE HAS, IT'S A LOT.

IT'S A LOT.

AND I THINK I MISSED SOME STUFF, BUT IT'S OKAY.

NEXT TIME IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, UH, IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THOSE QUARTERLY REPORTS AS PRESENTED IN ITEM NINE? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM BARBERS YOUR SECOND.

SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER KATE'S DISCUSSION.

THERE YOU GO.

THOSE IN FAVOR ARE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

UH, SO ITEM THREE, JOHN POLLSTER, DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF LINE ITEM TRANSFER IN THE AMOUNT OF 1 MILLION 8 75, 830 $3.

OPPOS? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

UH, SO LET'S GO BACK UP TO THE BEGINNING.

UH, MR. POLLSTER HAS ARRIVED THROUGH TRAFFIC.

ANYBODY GET HURT? .

[3. John Polster; Discuss/Consider approval of line-item transfer in the amount of $1,875,833.55.]

AND OF COURSE 55 CENTS .

UH, JOHN POLLSTER INNOVATIVE TRANSPORTATION SOLUTIONS.

THIS LINE ITEM IS, UH, RELATED TO THE CLOSEOUT AND, UH, THE FINAL AUDIT COMPLETION OF THE TABOR, UH, PARKWAY PROJECT.

TAB PARKWAY WAS A 2013 BOMB PROGRAM.

SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT THOSE DOLLARS THAT ARE BEING RE WE WERE NEVER SENT TO, UH, KAUFMAN.

THEY'VE STATE AT THE COUNTY, BUT WE TRANSFER IT OUT OF, SINCE IT'S DONE INTO PRECINCT ONE.

UM, COUNTY ROADS, UH, FUNDING.

SO THIS WRAPS THAT UP.

IT'S DONE, IT CAME IN UNDER BUDGET AND WE'RE RE THIS MONEY'S NO LONGER NEEDED FOR TABOR.

AND SO I'M SAYING WE TRANSFER IT TO PRECINCT ONE, UH, COUNTY ROADS.

SO YES, WE DID A FINAL AUDIT CUZ THE, WHAT WE DO FOR THE AUDITOR IS

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WE GO OUT AND TAKE PICTURES.

WE GET THEM TO CERTIFY THAT THEY PAID ALL THEIR VENDORS AND THAT THE PROJECT'S COMPLETE.

AND WE PACKAGE THAT UP, DO THE MATH ON IT, AND IF THERE'S MONEY LEFT OVER, WE TRANSFER IT INTO THE DISCRETIONARY COUNTY ROAD COUNTS.

UH, QUESTIONS FOR JOHN ON THAT? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT LINE ITEM TRANSFER AS PRESENTED ON ITEM THREE? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION WITH A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER HUNT.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR OF SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

OPPOS? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES BACK

[4. John Polster; Discuss/Consider approval of authorization of the Road Bond Program Management Support Task Order No. 20 between Kaufman County and Teague Nail and Perkins, Inc. in the amount of $439,500.00.]

TO JOHN.

NUMBER FOUR, DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AUTHORIZATION OF THE ROAD BOND PROGRAM MANAGEMENT SUPPORT TASK ORDER NUMBER 20 BETWEEN KAUFMAN COUNTY AND TIGN AND PERKINS IN THE AMOUNT OF $439,500.

SO THIS IS A CONTRACT OR A, A WORK AUTHORIZATION FOR TEAL TO DO THE ENGINEERING ON THE BACKAGE ROAD FROM 34 TO THE END OF THE COUNTY'S PROPERTY, AND THEN NORTHEAST TO THE FRONTAGE ROAD FOR 1 75.

AND IT'S JUST TWO OF THE FOUR LANES FOR THE ROAD FROM 34 TO THE PROPERTY LINE AND THEN THE, THEN THE FULL ROAD UP TO, UM, THE FRONTAGE ROAD.

UM, JOHN'S BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR WORKING ON THE FUNDING ASPECT OF THIS FOR A YEAR AND A HALF.

YES SIR.

WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET, UH, FEDERAL FUNDING FOR IT.

IT'S BACKAGE ROAD FOR THE 1 75.

UH, AND EVENTUALLY WE MIGHT HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL AT THAT.

BUT WITH THE TIMING OF THE FACILITY OPENING, WE UH, JUST CAME IN AND LOOKED AT SOME OF THE PROJECTS YOU HAVE IN YOUR, IN YOUR ACCOUNT.

AND, UH, WE GOT TECH NOT TO PICK UP THE, THE 1 75 STUDY.

THAT WAS THE, THAT WAS THE BIGGEST PART OF IT.

UM, AND THEY HIRED BROWN AND GAY AND THEY'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE THEM ON CONTRACT IN ANOTHER TWO WEEKS.

AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE SOME OF THOSE DOLLARS TO MOVE IT TO THE BACK ROAD FOR THE ENGINEERING.

SO JUST KIND OF FOR THOSE WHO MIGHT NOT BE TOTALLY FAMILIAR, THE PUBLIC ANYWAY, UH, THE COUNTY PURCHASED LAND ADJACENT TO THE JAIL FOR THE POTENTIALLY FUTURE FOR POTENTIAL AS A JU FOR JUVENILE DETENTION CENTER.

RIGHT NOW, THAT SITE IS LANDLOCKED.

SO WHAT THIS ROAD DOES IS IT GIVES US ACCESS TO THAT PROPERTY AND THEN IT MAKES A TURN TOWARDS 1 75 AND GIVES US A SECONDARY ACCESS TO OUR PROPERTY THAT HAS THE, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, THE JUSTICE CENTER, AND THE, UH, PET ADOPTION CENTER.

IT ALSO COULD IN THE FUTURE, HAVE SOME REAL PLUSES FOR THE CITY, FOR THE CITY OF KAUFMAN AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION IF THEY CHOSE AT THEIR OWN COST TO ATTACH TO THAT ROAD AND EXTEND IT.

AND TRINITY VALLEY COMMUNITY COLLEGE OWNS LAND THERE THAT COULD BE ACCESSED BY AN EXTENSION OF THAT ROAD.

AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE FOR THE, THAT WOULD BE FOR OTHERS TO PAY FOR.

BUT IT'S GOT LOTS OF, THEY JUST RECENTLY REACHED OUT TO US.

SO IF, IF THAT, THEY'VE GOT A, A POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING ON THERE.

AND SO IF IF WE, THEY COME TO US AND THEY TELL US WHAT THEY WANT US TO DO AND THEY'RE WILLING TO PAY FOR IT, WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU AND TELL YOU WHAT THAT PITCH IS AND, UM, WE MAY HEAR IT TODAY.

I DON'T KNOW, WANT TO MEET WITH, UH, KAUFMAN? YEAH, BUT THAT'D BE ON, THAT'D BE ON THEM IF THEY WANNA DO THAT.

SO WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT, WE'RE ALSO, IN THE INTERIM, WE'RE MAKING SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT 1 75 ENTRANCE FROM THE, THE FRONTAGE ROADS TO THE FACILITY WHERE WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH, UH, UH, AREA ENGINEER TO CHANGE THAT INTERSECTION SO THAT IT'S E IT'S SAFER.

I'LL, UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE THE ABILITY TO DESCRIBE IT IN WORDS.

YEAH, I DON'T GO THERE.

IT'S TOO, TOO STRANGE.

TOO COMPLICATED.

UM, OKAY, SO ANY QUESTIONS ON ITEM FOUR? THE THEN IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT, UH, MANAGEMENT SUPPORT TASK ORDER 20 IS PRESENTED? WELL, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION WITH A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER HUNT.

IS THERE A SECOND? NO, SECOND.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

PROPOSE? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES BACK

[5. John Polster; Discuss/Consider approval of 2019 Road Bond funding transfers in the amount of $4,360,597.00]

TO JOHN FOR ITEM FIVE.

DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE 2019 ROAD BOND FUNDING TRANSFERS IN THE AMOUNT OF $4,360,597.

AND NO CENT , I JUST GO WITH THE NUMBERS.

YEAH, I KNOW YOU DO.

MONEY TO ACTUALLY BUILD THE PROJECT THAT TEAL'S ENGINEERING BASED ON THEIR CURRENT, UH, OPINION OF COST.

SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE DOING SOME TRANSFERS WITHIN THE COUNTY JUDGE'S, UH, ACCOUNTS TO PUT INTO AN ACCOUNT THAT WILL ALLOW US TO BE ABLE TO, ONCE TEAL'S FINISHED WITH THE ENGINEERING, TO HAVE THE

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NOW WE'LL TELL YOU THERE'S A LITTLE, WE PUT A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THERE THAN WHAT THEY SAID BECAUSE WE'VE HAD, I'VE SEEN, I'VE HAD FOUR OR FIVE PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE REGION THAT HAVE LET IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS AND THEY ALL ARE UP LIKE 30 AND 40%.

SO NOT KNOWING WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN, WE, WE KIND OF PADDED WHAT WE'RE PUTTING INTO THAT ACCOUNT.

BUT AGAIN, AT THE END OF THE DAY WHEN IT'S DONE, IF WE DIDN'T NEED IT, WE JUST ROLL IT BACK INTO PROGRAM MANAGEMENT OR SOME OTHER THIRD THING.

SO THIS IS THE FUNDING ALLOCATIONS FOR THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION OF THE BACK ROAD FROM 34 TO END OF THE PROPERTY AND THEN FRONT OF THE PROPERTY TO THE FRONTAGE ROAD.

QUESTIONS FOR JOHN ABOUT THAT? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE 2019 ROAD BOND FUNDING TRANSFERS AS PRESENTED IN ITEM FIVE? I'LL MAKING A MOTION.

MADE THAT MOTION COMMISSION.

BARBARA.

COMMISSIONER KATE'S DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU, JOHN.

YES, SIR.

UH, GOOD LUCK OUT THERE.

I HEARD THAT I 30 EASTBOUND WAS, UH, YOU DIDN'T COME DOWN I 30, BUT I HEARD IT WAS AN HOUR AND A HALF DELAY, JOHN.

THERE'S A LOT OF RED RIGHT NOW.

UM, THAT'S WHY IT'S REALLY NICE TO LIVE AND WORK IN KAUFMAN COUNTY.

ITEM SIX, PAUL ERRORS DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING THE DEPUTIZATION OF BRIAN DE DES DAY.

[6. Paul Ayres; Discuss/Consider approving the deputation of Brian De Jesus as the Kaufman County Animal Control Officer.]

JESUS AS THE KAUFMAN COUNTY ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER.

ALL RIGHT.

GOOD MORNING.

MORNING.

SO, UH, BRIAN STARTED WITH US ON, UH, THE 24TH OF OCTOBER.

UH, SO HE IS BEEN DOING SOME FIELD TRAINING WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, UM, JUST KIND OF SEEING HOW THEY RUN THINGS AND UH, HOPEFULLY WE'RE MAKING FOR A SMOOTH TRANSITION HERE, UH, AT THE END OF THE WEEK.

UM, WE'RE GOING TO DISPATCH AFTER THIS JUST TO KIND OF IRON OUT THE DETAILS OF NOTIFICATIONS AND MAKING SURE WE'RE STAYING CAUGHT UP ON ANIMAL CONTROL RELATED CALLS.

SO, UH, ANYWAYS, HE BRINGS EXPERIENCE FROM, UH, CITY OF ADD AND, UH, MIDLAND COUNTY AS AN ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER THERE.

SO, UH, WE'RE DEFINITELY EXCITED TO HAVE SOMEONE WITH EXPERIENCE.

SO, AND I MET BRIAN YESTERDAY AND HE'S A, UH, NAVY VETERAN, COMES FROM, UH, AN ARMY FAMILY.

WE TALKED, TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, HE'S LIVED IN 8,000 DIFFERENT PLACES SINCE HE GREW UP.

RIGHT? .

SO WELCOME.

WE'RE GLAD WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY GLAD TO HAVE YOU HERE.

THANK YOU.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT DEPUTIZATION AS PRESENTED IN ITEM SIX? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION WITH A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

COMMISSIONER KATE.

DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

OPPOSED? NO.

DISCUSS, CONSIDER FOR APPROVAL.

, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

WELCOME.

ITEM 10, DEBORAH BONNER.

[10. Deborah Bonner; Discuss/consider/approve TCDRS adjustment for Irene Velasquez.]

T C D R S ADJUSTMENT FOR IRENE VELASQUEZ.

I KNOW THIS IS THE LAST THING Y'ALL WANNA HEAR ABOUT, BUT WE HAVE LOCATED ANOTHER EMPLOYEE THAT STARTED AS A PART-TIME EMPLOYEE WITH THE COUNTY IN 2007 AND BECAME FULL-TIME AROUND 2016.

SO, UH, SHE WAS NOT ADDED TO T C D R S, UM, AT ANY TIME UNTIL SHE BECAME A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE.

AND AS WE HAVE DONE WITH THE OTHER EMPLOYEES THAT WERE FALLING INTO THIS CATEGORY, I HAVE RECALCULATED WHAT, UM, DEPOSITS SHE MISSED AND, UM, WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO BRING HER CURRENT.

SO FOR THAT WE'RE ARE AT A TOTAL OF $12,585 AND 43 CENTS.

THAT'S HER PORTION, THE COUNTY'S PORTION AND THE LIFE INSURANCE TOTAL.

AND I'M HERE TO ASK YOUR APPROVAL TO MAKE THAT, UH, CHANGE AND CREDIT TO T C D R S.

I GUESS WE HAVE NO WAY TO REALLY SEARCH OUT WHETHER THERE'S MORE OF THOSE OUT THERE SOMEWHERE.

WE REALLY DON'T.

I WISH THAT THERE WAS AN EASY WAY TO DO IT OR EVEN A GOOD WAY TO DO IT, BUT I HAVE NOT FOUND ONE YET.

AND I'M AFRAID THESE ARE GONNA KEEP COMING UP FROM TIME TO TIME.

I KNOW YOU SPENT A LOT OF TIME WORKING ON THIS.

UM, QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT THEN, IS, IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT ADJUSTMENT AS PRESENTED IN ITEM 10? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

MOST WE HAVE THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

11, BOBBY BRIDGES PRESENT UPDATES FOR ANIMAL SHELTER, JUSTICE CENTER, AND ALL NEW CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS IN COMAN COUNTY.

COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR OF SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

UH, ITEM

[11. Bobby Bridges; Present updates on Animal Shelter, Justice Center, and all new construction projects in Kaufman County,]

GOOD MORNING.

HOW ARE Y'ALL DOING? MORNING.

SO, UH, WE'LL START OFF WITH A ADOPTION REAL QUICK.

UM, NOT MUCH HAS CHANGED THERE.

THEY

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DID RECEIVE THE REPORT, UM, GREG DID.

HE HAS SENT IT UP TO THE HIGHER UPS AT GALLAGHER FOR REVIEW.

HOPEFULLY EARLY NEXT WEEK, MAYBE NEXT TUESDAY IN COMMISSIONER'S COURT, HE CAN COME AND GIVE AN UPDATE ON WHAT THEY'VE DISCOVERED WITH IT.

HE SAID THE, THE REPORT WAS KIND OF VAGUE FROM WHAT HE COULD SEE, BUT THAT'S WHY HE WAS SENDING IT UP TOP TO LET THEM GUYS LOOK AT IT.

SO HOPEFULLY WE GET SOME RESOLUTION ON THAT EARLY NEXT WEEK.

UM, IS IT CREATING ANY OPERATIONAL, SIGNIFICANT OPERATIONAL PROBLEMS OUT THERE NOW? UH, NO SIR.

CAUSE WE'VE, WE'VE RESOLVED THE ISSUES THAT HAVE CAME UP.

YOU, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT SIGNAGE FOR WHEN WE MOVE, WHEN EVERYBODY MOVES OUT OF THE COURTHOUSE FROM THE OLD COURTHOUSE TO THE NEW ONE.

UM, I MEAN, YOU, YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS HAPPENING WITH THAT IS THE PIPES WERE COMING UP AND THAT TEE WAS BREAKING OFF.

SO THERE WAS LIKE FOUR OF THEM THAT DID THAT, UM, ARE FIVE OF THEM IN A TOILET.

UM, AND THEN THAT WE FOUND TWO MORE THAT WERE IN THE PROCESS.

SO WE JUST RELIEVED THE TILE OUT TO MAKE SURE THAT, SO THEY'RE UP AND RUNNING OPEN PROBLEMS? YES, SIR.

UM, THE CHILDREN'S SHELTER FAMILY RESTROOM IS STILL UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

UM, WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING BACK WITH THAT THIS WEEK.

WE'RE ACTUALLY INSTALLING ALL THE NEW STUFF THIS WEEK.

THERE WAS A, THERE WAS A JACUZZI TUB THAT WAS IN THAT BATHROOM AND IT WAS CONCRETED IN, SO THE GUYS HAD TO CHISEL OUT CONCRETE TO GET THE JACUZZI TUB OUT.

ANYWAY, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT ON THAT.

UM, WE DO HAVE A CONSTRUCTION MEETING TODAY AT TWO O'CLOCK FOR AN UPDATE ON THE JUSTICE CENTER WHERE WE'RE AT AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO HOPEFULLY AFTER TODAY'S MEETING WE'LL BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH A MOVE DATE.

PRELIMINARY OR THE PRE, I'M SORRY, WHAT'S THE WORD? EASIER FOR YOU TO SAY? YEAH, WELL CURRENTLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW IS LIKE DECEMBER 19TH, UH, THROUGH THE 30TH.

UM, AND THEN REALLY, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY'S OFF THE 23RD, 20 OR THE 22ND, 23RD AND THE 26TH.

SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS DOING LIKE THE 19TH, 2020 FIRST, CUZ MOVE SOLUTIONS NEEDS THREE DAYS.

SO THAT GIVES THEM THEIR THREE DAYS.

AND THEN, UM, THE FOLLOWING WEEK, WHICH WE COME BACK ON THE 27TH, SO THE 27TH, 28, 20 NINTH IS, UH, SOUTHWEST SOLUTIONS CAN MOVE ALL THEIR STUFF AT THAT TIME.

SO THAT, AND THE REASON WHY WE'RE TRYING TO BREAK IT UP IN TWO SECTIONS LIKE THAT IS BECAUSE OVER AT THE COURTHOUSE, THE OLD COURTHOUSE, WE ONLY HAVE ONE ELEVATOR AND BOTH OF THEM PEOPLE FIGHTING OVER THAT ONE ELEVATOR WHEN THERE'S GONNA BE A TON OF MOVEMENT FROM FILES AND STUFF COMING OUT OF THERE.

NOT ON TOP OF, UH, DESKTOPS, YOU KNOW, COMPUTERS AND EVERYBODY'S BELONGINGS AND STUFF COMING OUT.

SO TO PREVENT THEM FROM FIGHTING OVER THE ELEVATOR, WE'RE GIVING EACH ONE OF 'EM THREE DAYS, WELL, ONE OF 'EM THREE DAYS AND ONE OF 'EM FOUR DAYS.

AND THEN WE HAVE THAT WEEKEND TO COVER JUST IN CASE IF WE HAVE TO.

BUT IF WE CAN MOVE THAT UP, WE WILL.

BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE STANDING RIGHT NOW BASED OFF OF SOME FURNITURE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE AT THE COURTHOUSE.

UM, I KNOW THAT AS OF LAST WEEK THE, UH, THE ATTORNEY'S TABLES FOR THE COURTROOMS WEREN'T GONNA BE IN UNTIL THE END OF DECEMBER.

UM, THEY WERE JUST DELAYED.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST, THAT'S PART OF THE WORLD WE LIVE IN TODAY IS EVERYTHING'S BEHIND.

UM, AND I DID SPEAK TO THE JUDGES, UH, ALL OF THEM OVER THERE AND THEY PREFER THIS MOVE TIME BECAUSE IT'S A SLOW TIME FOR THEM AND EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH, THEIR COURTS ARE KINDA SHUT DOWN AT THAT TIME ALREADY.

SO, UM, THIS WORKS GREAT FOR THEM BECAUSE OF THAT.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SHOOTING FOR RIGHT NOW.

HOW, HOW YOU FEELING ABOUT THAT ELEVATOR OVER THERE? HAVEN'T WE HAD SOME, SOME CONCERNS ABOUT IT IN THE PAST? YOU TALKING ABOUT THE, AT THE COURTHOUSE? YES, SIR.

SO THAT ELEVATOR'S GONNA GET A LOT OF WORK DURING THIS MOVE.

SO ONE THING THAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS THAT WE HAVE A, UH, A TECHNICIAN ON STANDBY.

THAT WAY IF IT DOES GO DOWN, HE CAN HOP RIGHT ON IT AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT THE ISSUE AND GET IT BACK UP AND RUNNING.

AND THEN THAT WAY IT DOESN'T DELAY THE MOVE MORE THAN IT WOULD.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S DEFINITELY A CONCERN BECAUSE THAT THING'S GONNA BE, IT'S GONNA BE ALL DAY, YOU KNOW, FOR BOTH COMPANIES.

UM, SO THAT IS DEFINITELY AN ISSUE THAT WE'VE, WE'VE BROUGHT UP AND WE'RE TALKING TO JACK ABOUT GETTING US SOME QUOTES FOR THAT AS WELL.

SO THE CONSTRUCTION MEETING TODAY WILL BE A BIG, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY THAT KIND OF RESOLVES A LOT OF STUFF.

I MEAN, JUDGE, HAVE YOU HEARD ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT THE CO ON THAT JUSTICE SCENE? NO, EXCEPT THAT GREG SEEMS TO BE PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT THERE'S NOTHING GONNA KEEP US FROM GETTING THE CO UH, I KNOW HE'S, HE'S HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY.

I THINK THE CITY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN IN AND OUT.

THE INSPECTORS HAVE BEEN AND OUTTA THERE.

UM, AND I THINK WE'LL PROBABLY GET A TEMPORARY CO NOT A CO.

CAUSE THAT USUALLY TAKES A LONG TIME.

THERE'S ALWAYS LITTLE THINGS.

YES, SIR.

UH, DO YOU, TELL ME ABOUT WHAT PLANS Y'ALL HAVE OR CONVERSATIONS

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YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

WE PROBABLY NEED TO PUT SOME SIGNAGE UP AT THIS OTHER MULBERRY LOCATION TO HAVE EVERYBODY DIRECTED TO.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? UHHUH? , YEAH.

BECAUSE THERE'LL BE, YOU KNOW, FOR ABOUT THREE MONTHS THERE'LL BE PEOPLE SHOWING UP LOOKING FOR WHATEVER IT IS THEY'RE LOOKING FOR IN THE COURTHOUSE.

YES SIR.

WE CAN DEFINITELY ADD THAT TO OUR LIST.

IT'D BE PRETTY IMPORTANT.

AND MY, MY WE PROBABLY MAYBE, I MEAN, DO YOU THINK MAYBE WE SHOULD PUT 'EM OUT BEFORE, YOU KNOW, PRETTY MUCH BEFORE THE MOVE SO PEOPLE YEAH, I, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.

A HUNDRED PERCENT ON THAT IS ONCE WE KIND OF NAIL THIS DOWN AND HOPEFULLY AFTER TODAY, THE CONSTRUCTION MEETING TODAY, THAT WILL HELP US NAIL THIS DOWN.

CUZ I MEAN, IF THERE'S JUST SOME TABLES THAT ARE MISSING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, MAYBE WE CAN TEMPORARILY TAKE SOME TABLES FROM THEIR COURTROOMS, PUT 'EM IN THERE FOR THIS TO HAPPEN OR WHATEVER.

I MEAN, IF THAT'S, THAT'S OUR ONLY HOLD UP IS SOME TABLES FOR THERE.

AND I MEAN OBVIOUSLY WE CAN DO THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING BIGGER THAN THAT, THEN THAT MAY DELAY THIS.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO DEFINITELY PUT THE, THE DATE ON THE SIGNS RIGHT.

THAT WE HAVE OUT OF HERE AROUND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ALL FOUR BUMP OUTS AROUND THE COURTHOUSE.

BUT YES SIR.

WELL, WE'LL SEE WHAT THEY SAY TODAY.

WE'LL SEE WHAT THEY SAY TODAY.

I CAN SEND AN UPDATE OUT TO YOU GUYS IF SOMETHING'S CRAZY.

UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE SUBSTATION IN FORNEY? WELL, THEY WERE MOVING DIRT IS WHAT I WAS TOLD.

I BET THEY'RE NOT MOVING DIRT NOW.

THEY'RE MOVING, RIGHT? MAYBE.

SO THAT, THAT'S WHERE THEY WERE AT, WAS MOVING DIRT, UH, LAST WEEK AS OF END OF LAST WEEK.

UM, AND I KNOW THAT YOU HAD TALKED TO 'EM ABOUT MOVING DIRT AND THEY'RE PUTTING SOME DIRT IN A CERTAIN AREA FOR A, A RADIO TOWER, RIGHT? YEP.

AND THAT'S ONE THING TO GREG.

DID THEY GET THAT DONE BEFORE THE RAIN? I'M NOT SURE.

FUNDING FUN, UM, NON-PROFITS.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YES SIR.

THANK Y'ALL.

Y'ALL HAVE A GREAT DAY.

UH, SO

[12. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider funding allocations to non-profit organizations.]

ITEM 12.

NOW WE, LAST WEEK WE HAD SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT, AND I, I SEE JUDGE BARER, BUT I WANT REMIND EVERYBODY AND I GOT THE, SOME OF THE SWAGGO VIDEOS CUZ I WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY ABOUT THE DISCUSSIONS WE HAD ABOUT HOW WE WERE GONNA ALLOCATE FUNDS FOR NON-PROFITS.

AND I, SINCE WE DIDN'T ALL AGREE ON WHAT THAT WAS LIKE, I, I WANT TO PLAY 'EM FOR YOU.

SURE.

WE HAVE FOUR.

WE ACTUALLY HAD THIS DISCUSS IN FOUR DIFFERENT MEETINGS THAT I'VE JUST GOT A COUPLE OVER HERE TO SHOW YOU, JUST SO WE'LL ALL REMEMBER WHAT THE PLAN WAS.

I WAS GONNA ASK, BUT I'M ALL RIGHT.

ARE WE UP ON THE SCREEN THERE? GOOD.

SEE, THIS FIRST ONE STARTS AT HOW YOU MAKE THIS SOME WORK HERE.

AL SAY AGAIN HOW YOU MAKE THIS BABY WORK.

YOU GIVING ON MY PERSONAL SCREEN? GOOD LOOKING.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU MEAN? YEAH, GOOD LOOKING.

THIS ONE RIGHT HERE.

DON'T KNOW, YOU CAN'T HOLD ON MUCH LONGER.

IT'S ALL, LET ME GO BACK TO MY DRIVE.

IT'S A, THIS IS REALLY EARLY IN THE, UH, BUDGET DISCUSSIONS.

I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THIS CAME UP THAT WE TALKED ABOUT HOW WE WERE GONNA ALLOCATE MONEY.

UM, OKAY.

AND THEN, SO WE'LL HAVE A CO AND MAYBE WE CAN, MAYBE WE CAN FREE UP SOME, WE CAN FREE UP SOME BUDGET.

YOU THERE? OKAY.

TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT POSITIONS.

IT'S SOMETHING I THINK WE'RE, WE ALL, WE PROBABLY TO DO QUESTIONS ABOUT

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UM, WHAT WE'VE DONE EVERY YEAR, UH, SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE IS WE'VE SENT A LETTER TO THE NON-PROFITS AND ASKED THEM TO THE ONES WE'VE TYPICALLY FUNDED.

WE'VE ASKED NON-PROFITS TO MAKE A REQUEST.

AND WE HAVEN'T ALL DONE THAT.

I MEAN, WE SORT OF BEEN WINGING IT.

AND SO WHAT WE DID THIS YEAR IS WE SENT THEM A FORM THAT ASKED INFORMATION ABOUT WHY, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU DO? WHAT'S YOUR ORGANIZATION DO? WHO DO YOU SERVE? UH, SEND US YOUR FINANCIAL STATEMENT, YOU KNOW, SEND US A FINANCIAL STATEMENT THAT TELLS US, YOU KNOW, SO WE CAN EVALUATE THAT AND TALK STEWART ABOUT YOUR GOVERNANCE AND YOUR PROCEDURES AND STUFF.

AND IT'S A, I THINK IT MIGHT HAVE, IT'S, IT'S A FILL OF BLANK THING.

I THINK MAYBE THERE WERE TWO PAGES TO IT.

SO MY, WHAT I'M HOPING TO DO IS, AS AFTER WE GET WORK THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT FUNDING THAT WE'LL MAKE A DECISION AS TO HOW MUCH TOTAL MONEY WE FEEL LIKE WE CAN DEDICATE TOWARDS NON-PROFITS, SET ASIDE HOW MUCH TOTAL MONEY WE'RE GONNA ALLOCATIONS.

WE'LL GO THROUGH TOGETHER, WE'LL GO THROUGH THE APPLICATIONS THAT WE RECEIVE AND WE'LL DECIDE HOW TO ALLOCATE THAT MONEY.

SO WE SET ASIDE A LUMP SUM OF MONEY AND THEN WE BASED DECIDE HOW TO ALLOCATE THIS.

LIKE THAT WAS IN JULY, THEY FUNDED AND THAT SORT OF THING.

SO, BUT THAT'S GONNA BE, AND I'VE TOLD THEM I'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH BY EMAIL OR SEVERAL THAT'S GONNA BE, AND THEN WE HAD THE SAME, WE WENT BACK TO THE CONVERSATION AND WE HAD THE SAME CONVERSATION.

I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARILY SHOWING TO YOU.

WE HAD THAT SAME CONVERSATION AT THE VERY END OF THE BUDGET CYCLE.

UH, THAT'S WHEN KAREN, THAT DAY ASKED ABOUT HOW SHE WAS GONNA FUND THE DEAL AND, UH, REMINDED HER THAT WE WERE GOING TO PUT IT IN A LUMP SUM, COME BACK IN OCTOBER AND ALLOCATE IN DETAIL.

NOW, THERE WAS A COMPLAINT THE OTHER DAY ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE DIDN'T, THAT WE WAITED TILL THE END OF OCTOBER TO, TO BRING THESE APPLICATIONS TO REALLY DISCUSS THE APPLICATIONS.

BUT I'D LIKE TO REMIND THE COMMISSIONERS THAT ANYBODY CAN PUT ANY OF YOU CAN PUT ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA ANYTIME YOU WANT TO.

SO WE WERE ONE MONTH INTO THE BUDGET YEAR BEFORE WE STARTED DISCUSSING THESE ALLOCATIONS.

AND, UH, ONE MONTH OUT OF A 12 MONTH YEAR DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THAT MUCH.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE DECIDED, OR THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S THE PLAN THAT WE WORKED ON.

NOBODY EVER OBJECTED TO THAT.

UM, AND TO, TO ADVANCE THIS DISCUSSION, UM, UH, JUDGE BARDEN, I THINK FILLED OUT AN APPLICATION FOR SENIOR CONNECT.

WELL ACTUALLY, JUDGE BARDEN NEVER GOT AN APPLICATION.

CAN I COME AND SPEAK? SURE.

WE SENT AN APPLICATION IN, UH, TWICE TO SENIOR CONNECT TO THE, UH, WELL IT WAS ACTUALLY SENT TO THE PUBLISHER OF IN FORNEY.

UM, HE TELLS ME THAT HE DID NOT RECEIVE THE SECOND EMAIL WITH AN APPLICATION UNTIL YESTERDAY WHEN I TALKED WITH JUDGE GIBBS, I WAS UNAWARE THAT WE HAD NOT DONE WHAT THE COUNTY HAD ASKED US TO DO BECAUSE I HAD SENT THE LETTER.

UM, SO I'M PLEADING TRYING TO COME BEFORE THE COURT AND PLEAD NOT GUILTY, OF NOT PUTTING AN APPLICATION BECAUSE UNTIL YESTERDAY AT 4:53 PM I HAD NEVER EVEN SEEN THE APPLICATION.

UH, I EVEN WENT ON A COUNTY WEBSITE TRYING TO SEE IF I COULD FIND ONE.

UH, AND I COULDN'T FIND ONE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A NEW WEBSITE, SO MAYBE I WAS LOOKING IN THE WRONG PLACES WITHOUT FUNDING FROM THE COUNTY.

I THINK ALL FIVE OF, YOU KNOW, THAT SENIOR CONNECT WILL HAVE TO CLOSE SOME CENTERS.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYBODY HERE THAT, THAT I THINK ALL OF US KNOW THAT THAT POPULATION HAS TO BE SUPPORTED AND, AND IT DOES.

LAST YEAR WE TRY, WE DECREASED OUR STAFF FOR THE NEW BUDGET.

BUT BEFORE WE EVEN GET INTO THAT, I WANT, I WANNA SAY SOMETHING.

WE'VE NOT BEEN ASKED FOR A QUARTERLY FINANCIAL STATEMENT BY THE COUNTY.

WE HAVE VOLUNTARILY SUBMITTED

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TO THE COUNTY AUDITOR EACH QUARTER A COPY OF OUR QUARTERLY.

THAT WAS A CONDITION I THINK OF THE INCREASE IN FUNDING THAT WE DID LAST YEAR.

WE, WE ACTUALLY DID ASK FOR THAT.

DID YOU ASK FOR THAT WHEN SCOTT GRAY AND, AND BRIAN MARTIN WERE HERE AND THEY ACTUALLY SUBMITTED SOME YES.

SOME DOCUMENTS TO THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE? YES.

AND I GIVE 'EM TO THE COURT.

SO YOU KNOW THAT WE OPERATE ON A VERY TIGHT BUDGET.

YOU ALSO KNOW THAT TRIPLE A IS VERY SLOW TO PAY, WHICH WE HAVE BEEN ADVOCATING NOT ONLY ON BEHALF OF KAUFMAN COUNTY, BUT EVERY COUNTY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

WE HAVE KNOCKED ON EVERY DOOR, MADE EVERY PHONE CALL WE POSSIBLY COULD TO TRY TO GET THOSE PAYMENTS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO PAY OUR PEOPLE.

IN THE LAST YEAR, WE DECREASED SOME OF OUR STAFF, WE DECREASED OUR BUDGET.

THIS YEAR WE HAVE SERVED PROBABLY ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND MEALS SO FAR.

WE INCREASED 27,000 MEALS ALREADY THIS YEAR FROM THE YEAR BEFORE.

WE WERE ONE OF THE FIRST ORGANIZATIONS FOR SENIOR CONNECT IN THE STATE OF TEXAS TO REOPEN OUR CENTERS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT WE NEED TO SUBMIT THE APPLICATION.

I AM PERFECTLY WILLING TO DO THAT, TO BE IN COMPLIANCE.

THE ONLY PROBLEM IS THAT I RECEIVED, I PERSONALLY RECEIVED A COPY OF THE APPLICATION AT 4:53 PM YESTERDAY AFTERNOON.

AND, AND I DID NOT GET THE, THE MESSAGE THAT PROMPTED THAT.

I DIDN'T GET THAT MESSAGE.

I WAS OCCUPIED AND COULDN'T LOOK AT MY, MY EMAIL UNTIL LEAH SHOWED ME.

SO I APOLOGIZE.

I'D EVEN GET YOU SOONER, BUT WELL, AND I APOLOGIZE THAT I WAS NOT AWARE.

I I'M GONNA BE PAINFULLY HONEST WITH Y'ALL.

I DON'T REALLY WATCH COMMISSIONER'S COURT LIKE SOME OTHER PEOPLE DO.

WELL, YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE IN THE COUNTY WHO DOESN'T.

WELL, AND I DON'T, AND MY OFFICE WILL TELL YOU THAT I DON'T BECAUSE WHEN SOMEONE ASKS ME, DID YOU SEE COMMISSIONERS FOR, I THINK I HAVE TO TELL THEM, NO, DON'T I SHERIFF.

UM, SO I DON'T WATCH THAT.

I DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THE APPLICATION.

I HAVE SAT ON THE BOARD OF SENIOR CONNECT FOR SIX YEARS.

I'VE NEVER KNOWN ABOUT AN APPLICATION.

THIS WAS NEW THIS YEAR BECAUSE OKAY.

WE, UH, AND IT DID START BECAUSE WE THOUGHT, WELL, WE'D ALWAYS HAD A PRETTY HAPHAZARD PROCESS AND WE DIDN'T KNOW A LOT ABOUT SOME OF THE NON-PROFITS.

WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THEIR FINANCIAL, WE DIDN'T REALLY KNOW MUCH ABOUT THE DETAILS OF HOW THEY WERE BEING MANAGED.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT STARTED THE PROCESS OF US ASKING FOR AN APPLICATION.

WELL, I'M HERE TO SAY I DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THE APPLICATION.

I HAVE CHECKED WITH BRYAN MARTIN, HE GOT THE FIRST EMAIL AT IN FORNEY.

HE CLAIMS HE DID NOT GET THE SECOND EMAIL AT INFOR.

AND WE THOUGHT THAT WE ASSUME THAT, THAT WE SHOULD BE SENDING THAT TO THE STAFF, NOT TO THE BOARD TO FILL OUT.

AND, AND THAT'S FINE.

BUT I ALSO FEEL LIKE THAT IF YOU HADN'T GOTTEN ONE FROM A NON-PROFIT THAT, YOU KNOW, NEEDS YOUR, THE, THE MONEY AND THE SUPPORT FROM THE COUNTY, I WOULD'VE REALLY APPRECIATED IF SOMEONE WOULD HAVE REACHED OUT TO ME.

WE HAVE, WELL, AGAIN, I THINK WE REACHED OUT TO THE STAFF ON THAT BY EMAIL.

BUT WE, UH, WE HAVEN'T ALLOCATED ANY, WE HAVE, WE HAVE MADE THE FIRST TRANCHE OF PAYMENTS FOR THE FIRST QUARTER TO ALL THE NONPROFITS.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

SO, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THEM THAT WOULD BE DUE UNTIL THE NEXT QUARTER.

UNTIL THE SECOND QUARTER.

IS THAT RIGHT? YES, SIR.

SO WE HAVE TIME, BUT WE HAVEN'T DONE, WE HAVEN'T, I LIED ON THE BUDGET.

I SAW, I MEAN, I, I CONTACTED MY COMMISSIONER AND SAID, IS THERE A LINE ITEM FOR US ON THE BUDGET? I MEAN, I RELIED, JUST RELIED ON LOOKING AT THE BUDGET THINKING THAT WE WERE OKAY.

UH, UNTIL I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY WE HAD, I SEEN THAT WE WERE NOT, I THINK WE HAD A DISCONNECT ON WHAT OUR PROCESS WAS GONNA BE, BUT, UM, SO FOR THE COURT, UM, IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE WHAT WE SHOULD DO IS WAIT FOR YOUR APPLICATION AND THEN WE CAN, UH, WE'RE NOT UNDER ANY PARTICULAR TIME CRUNCH RIGHT NOW BECAUSE EVERYBODY, ALL THOSE NONPROFITS HAVE RECEIVED WHAT THEY RECEIVED LAST YEAR IN THE FIRST QUARTER.

AND SO, UM, WE CAN WAIT UNTIL WE GET YOUR APPLICATION NEXT TIME, NEXT WEEK, NEXT WEEK.

I CAN GET THE APPLICATION PROBABLY SOONER THAN ME.

UM, IS THAT ALL RIGHT WITH EVERYBODY? I I, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION.

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WE GO AHEAD AND RESOLVE THIS NOW.

WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED OUR BUDGET.

YOU'VE ALREADY GOT THE LINE ITEMS FILLED UP, AND WE'VE GOT THREE ON YOUR PIECE OF PAPER THAT DIDN'T.

SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

WE GO AHEAD AND ACCEPT WHAT WE'VE ALREADY ADOPTED IN OUR BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR, AND THEN WE HAVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE THREE THAT FILLED OUT APPLICATIONS FOR NEW FUNDING TO GET ON OUR ROTATION.

AND SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DO THAT, IF THAT'S YOUR MOTION.

I'M GONNA, I'M GOING TO ASK TO AMEND YOUR MOTION TO SAY THAT THE COUNTY SHOULD, UH, SEEK VERIFICATION THAT NO MEMBER OF ONE OF THE NON-PROFITS, BOARDS MANAGEMENT OR ADMINISTRATION HAS A CRIMINAL RECORD.

THAT WE WOULDN'T DISPERSE ANY MONEY UNTIL IT'S CLARIFIED THAT THERE IS NO, NONE OF THE NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE'RE GIVING TAXPAYERS MONEY TO HAVE A CRIMINAL RECORD BEFORE WE DISPERSE FUNDS TO 'EM.

THAT WOULD BE MY AMENDMENT TO YOUR MOTION.

I'D LIKE FOR MY MOTION TO STAND AS AS STATED.

SO WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING, THERE'S A PRETTY GOOD CHANCE THAT IF WE, IF THAT MOTION STANDS AND WE ISSUE FUNDS TO THESE ORGANIZATIONS, WHAT YOU'RE GONNA BE VOTING FOR IS TO ISSUE FUNDS TO AN ORGANIZATION THAT HAS SOMEBODY IN THE, A MANAGEMENT PERSON IN THE ORGANIZATION WITH A CRIMINAL RECORD, A CRIMINAL RECORD FOR, UM, EMBEZZLING FUNDS FROM A ALZHEIMER'S NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION.

I DIDN'T REALLY WANT TO GET INTO THIS LEVEL OF DETAIL, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR EVERYBODY TO REALIZE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.

SO WE HAVE THAT MOTION TO GO AHEAD AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE SAYING TO GO AHEAD AND PROCEED AND FUND THESE ORGANIZATIONS, FUND THE ONES THAT WE'VE ALREADY, WE'VE ALREADY FUNDED OKAY.

TO THE ADOPTION OF THE BUDGET.

AND WE HAVE THREE THAT ON THE LIST THAT YOU GAVE ME THAT ARE REQUESTING TO BE ENTERED INTO THE ANNUAL ROTATION.

AND YOUR MOTION WILL BE, WE HAVE DISCUSSIONS ON THOSE.

AND YOUR MOTION WILL BE TO FUND THOSE ORGANIZATION WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE SOMEBODY WITH A CRIMINAL RECORD OF STEALING MONEY FROM IT.

THAT WASN'T MY MOTION.

MY MOTION IS ESTIMATED, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE EFFECT OF YOUR MOTION.

MY MOTION IS IT'S STATED.

AND SO WE DON'T, WE WOULD FUND, WE'VE ALREADY ADOPTED THE BUDGET JUDGE.

WE'VE ALREADY, WE CAN CHANGE THE BUDGET ANYTIME.

SO YOUR MOTION, THAT'S THE EFFECT OF YOUR MOTION THOUGH, IS WE, WE WOULD BE GIVING MONEY TO AN ORGANIZATION THAT HAS SOMEBODY WITH A CRIMINAL RECORD.

MY MOTION IS STATED.

THEN THAT'S YOUR MOTION.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A SECOND OR NOT.

COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, UH, MAKES MOTION.

SECOND DISCUSSION.

UH, SO THAT WE COULD, UH, REALLY JUDICIOUSLY GO THROUGH THESE, THESE, UH, APPLICATIONS BECAUSE THERE'S CLEARLY, UH, A LOT MORE MONEY THAN WE, UH, HAVE INTENDED IN THE PAST THAT'S BEING REQUESTED.

I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS THIS JUST TO TAD.

FIRST OF ALL, I THINK THAT, UH, THERE WAS NO QUESTION THAT, UH, OUR AGREEMENT ON THIS COMMISSIONER'S COURT WAS THAT WE WOULD TAKE THE, THE TOTAL LUMP SUM MONEY FOR NONPROFITS AND SET THAT ASIDE AND ADDRESS THEM INDIVIDUALLY IN A, IN AN EFFORT TO MOVE FORWARD IN OUR BUDGET PROCESS, WHICH AS WE ALL KNOW, IS QUITE CONTENTIOUS, UH, AS IT WAS ONGOING.

THAT WAS MY, UH, UNDERSTANDING OF OUR, UH, INTENT WHEN WE DID ADOPT THAT EGREGIOUS BUDGET, UH, AND THAT WE WOULD ADDRESS THESE, UH, REQUESTS FOR NONPROFIT SEPARATELY.

THAT CLEARLY WAS OUR AGREEMENT.

EVERYONE UP ON THIS COURT AGREED.

NO ONE OBJECTED.

SO, UH, I, I I THINK IT'S DISINGENUOUS.

UH, WHILE I WILL ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE WAS AN ERROR IN ALLOWING THOSE SEPARATE LINE ITEMS TO GO FORWARD, I THINK IT'S DISINGENUOUS TO, TO NOW TRY TO ADHERE TO THAT.

SECONDLY, I'LL POINT OUT, PARTICULARLY IN THE CASE OF SENIOR CONNECT, THAT LAST YEAR, AND, AND I CHALLENGE YOU TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE RECORD, GENTLEMEN, LAST YEAR WE MADE A ONE TIME ADJUSTMENT TO SENIOR CONNECT'S TYPICAL A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR AWARD.

UH, BECAUSE FRANKLY, SENIOR CONNECT HAD HAD A FINANCIAL, UH, MISAPPROPRIATION THAT LED THEM, UH, THAT LED THEM TO BE IN A CASH FLOW CRUNCH.

SO WE AGREED THAT WE WOULD MAKE A ONE TIME ADJUSTMENT TO 1 25 AND MAKE A LUMP SUM PAYMENT TO ALLOW THEM TO GO FORWARD WITH AND RESOLVE THEIR CASH FUND, THEIR CASH FLOW PROBLEMS. SO NOW TO, TO, TO JUST INSTITUTIONALIZE THE $125,000 AMOUNT, I THINK IS IRRESPONSIBLE.

IT'S IRRESPONSIBLE.

THAT WAS NOT THE INTENT OF THIS COURT LAST YEAR.

AND FRANKLY, THE INTENT OF THIS COURT, AS I UNDERSTOOD IT, AND APPARENTLY AS THE JUDGE UNDERSTOOD IT, WAS THAT WE WOULD ADDRESS THESE NON-PROFITS SEPARATELY AFTER WE APPROVED THE BUDGET.

AFTER THAT MONEY WAS PLACED INTO ESSENTIALLY A HOLDING PATTERN,

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SO I, I THINK IT'S A, I THINK IT'S AN IRRESPONSIBLE ACT NOT TO TAKE A BREATH, UH, ADHERE TO WHAT WE ORIGINALLY AGREED AND TAKE AN EXTRA COUPLE OF WEEKS, PARTICULARLY SINCE, AGAIN, WE'VE MADE AN ERROR.

ALL THE NON-PROFITS FROM LAST YEAR HAVE ALREADY BEEN FUNDED FOR THIS QUARTER.

SO THERE'S NO NEED TO ACT THIS TODAY.

WE COULD CLEARLY DO THIS IN A, IN A, UH, PROFESSIONAL AND, AND ADMINISTRATIVELY PURE METHOD BY GOING BACK AND, AND ADHERING TO WHAT WE AGREED TO.

SO, UH, I WOULD, UH, I WOULD REALLY, REALLY ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO CONSIDER, UH, EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE AND WHAT OUR AGREEMENTS HAVE BEEN ON BEFORE YOU MAKE THIS A VOTE.

AND LASTLY, I ABSOLUTELY THINK IT'S A CRITICAL ISSUE THAT NOT JUST A PARTICULAR, NOT JUST ONE PARTICULAR NONPROFIT, BUT ANY NONPROFIT THAT HAS A HISTORY AND NOW, NOW ALMOST A PATTERN IN ONE INSTANCE OF HAVING AN INAPPROPRIATE INDIVIDUAL THAT ADMINISTERS THE PUBLIC FUNDS THAT WE GIVE THEM, AND NOW TO VOTE TO CONTINUE THAT PROCESS, I THINK IS HIGHLY IRRESPONSIBLE.

HIGHLY IRRESPONSIBLE IN ONE, IN ONE PARTICULAR ORGANIZATION.

AGAIN, I, I ALSO, UH, WOULD PREFER NOT TO GET INTO THE WEEDS, BUT I'M WILLING TO IF NEED BE.

UH, ONE PARTICULAR ORGANIZATION BEGAN THIS PROCESS LAST YEAR WITH A FINANCIAL IMPROPRIETY THAT CAUSED THEM TO BE IN FINANCIAL STRAITS AND THEN REPLACED THAT, THAT INDIVIDUAL, THAT HIGHLY PLACED STAFFER WITH SOMEONE THAT HAD AN EVEN AT LEAST AN EQUALLY QUESTIONABLE BACKGROUND.

BUT INSTEAD, THE MOTION THAT'S BEFORE US WILL JUST GLOSS OVER THAT AND MOVE FORWARD AND CONTINUE TO DO THINGS THE SAME OLD WAY WE ALWAYS DO 'EM IN KAPIN COUNTY.

AND I THINK IT'S IRRESPONSIBLE AND IT'S NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE VOTERS OF THIS IN THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTY.

WELL, THE BUDGET BEFORE US THAT WE ADOPTED HAS ALL THAT IN THERE.

AND GRANT, WE MADE A MISTAKE.

BUT EVERY REVISION THAT I LOOKED AT THROUGH THE WHOLE BUDGET PROCESS, THE FIRST ONE THAT WAS ACTUALLY ADOPTED ON THE 20TH THAT WAS IN THERE, THE 21ST ONE WAS FILED WITH THE COUNTY CLERK.

IT HAD IT IN IT ON THE 26TH.

THERE WAS ANOTHER BUDGET FILED.

I DON'T KNOW WHY.

WE FILED TWO BUDGETS ON THE 21ST AND THE 26TH.

IT HAD IT IN IT.

AND THEN THE FINAL BOOK THAT I GOT, BINDED CERTAINLY ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THAT WAS AN ERROR.

SO, OKAY, IT'S AN ERROR, BUT I, I'M NOT WILLING TO GO BACK AFTER WE'VE ALREADY ADOPTED SOMETHING.

PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY SET THEIR BUDGETS TO SAY, WE'RE GONNA TAKE MONEY AWAY FROM YOU TO GIVE IT TO YOU, TO GIVE IT TO YOU AND START JOCKEYING MONEY AROUND WHEN ALL THESE PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY SAID ALL THOSE BUDGETS AND THEY'RE PLANNING THEIR YEAR ON THIS, ALL THESE NON-PROFITS.

I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR.

SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT WE'VE ALREADY ADOPTED THE BUDGET.

WE MADE MISTAKES.

WE ALL ACKNOWLEDGE WE MADE MISTAKES, BUT WE JUST GO AHEAD AND LIVE WITH OUR MISTAKE.

WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO FIX THE MISTAKE.

MIKE, WE CAN FIX THE MISTAKE RIGHT HERE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.

WHY WOULD YOU JUST ADOPT A MISTAKE AND CONTINUE TO GO FORWARD BLINDLY WITH THAT? WELL, THE MISTAKE IS WE DROPPED THE BALL ABSOLUTELY.

FOLLOWING UP.

THAT'S THE MISTAKE.

BUT WE CAN FIX IT.

THAT'S OUR MISTAKE.

WE CAN FIX IT WITHOUT THIS VOTE.

UH, YES.

WELL, SO I'M GONNA MAKE THIS POINT CUZ I WANT, I WANT EVERYBODY TO HEAR THIS.

THE MISTAKE WE'RE GETTING READY TO MAKE IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH A YES VOTE.

IF YOU VOTE YES, HERE'S WHAT YOU'RE VOTING FOR.

AND I'VE GOT THE DOCUMENTS, IF YOU WANNA SEE 'EM, YOU'RE GONNA BE PUTTING MONEY IN THE HANDS IN THE CONTROL TAXPAYER MONEY IN THE HANDS AND CONTROL OF AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WAS CONVICTED OF STEALING MONEY FROM AN ALZHEIMER'S CHARITY IN DALLAS COUNTY.

THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

YOU'RE VOTING YES TO GIVE MONEY, TO PUT TAXPAYERS MONEY IN THAT PERSON'S HANDS.

AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU, WHEN EVERYBODY WANTS TO DRAG THINGS OUT.

SO, UM, WE, SO A YES VOTE IS TO PUT MONEY IN THE HANDS OF SOMEBODY WHO WAS CONVICTED OF A CLASS B MISDEMEANOR, A STEALING MONEY FROM AN ALZHEIMER'S

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CHARITY IN DALLAS COUNTY.

SO WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION? YEAH.

CONVERSATION.

UM, WELL, A COUPLE OF THINGS.

UH, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT FULLY AWARE OF WHATEVER IT IS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

JUST HOLD ON A MINUTE.

BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE'S AN ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM HERE THAT I THINK IF YOU HAVE INFORMATION, YOU HAVE PROOF FOR WHATEVER THAT NEEDS TO COME OUT NOW.

CAUSE THAT COULD ALTER THE THINGS ALSO.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE SOME TIME HERE SINCE THE FIRST QUARTERLY PAYMENTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE.

WE'VE GOT SOME TIME TO WORK ON THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE IF WE NEED TO.

I THINK IT'S WORTH MAYBE A COUPLE OF WORKSHOPS OR SOMETHING TO GET IT WORKED OUT.

BUT IF THERE IS PROOF HERE, I THINK THIS NEEDS TO BE, UH, THE PUBLIC DESERVES TO KNOW TOO.

WELL, WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? IT'S PUBLIC RECORD NOW.

IT WAS ACTUALLY A MATTER OF PUBLIC RECORD IN DALLAS COUNTY WHEN SOMEBODY MAILED THIS TO ME.

WE KNOW WHERE THIS CAME FROM.

NO, I GOT IT IN, I GOT IT IN MY COUNTY MAIL WITH NO RETURN ADDRESS.

BUT JUDGE, YOU WANT ONE OF THOSE? I DON'T, I DON'T MEAN TO SEE IT.

UH, THAT'S ALL HENRY ONE INSTITUTE.

UM, WHEN OUR PREVIOUS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, WHEN SHE HAD FALSIFIED SOME REPORTS TO THE STATE, THAT CAUSED US TO GET INTO THE FINANCIAL CRUNCH THAT WE WERE IN, AS WELL AS MAKING SOME PAYMENTS, UM, THAT WERE NOT AUTHORIZED BY THE BOARD.

WE REVISED SOME OF OUR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THAT TOOK THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR'S POWER AWAY.

SHE, THE, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR HAS NO CONTROL OVER THE MONEY THE BOARD DOES.

THE CHECKS ARE ALL SIGNED BY MYSELF AND JUDGE GIBBS, UM, NO MONEY COMES INTO THE HAND OF THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.

NO CHARGES CAN BE MADE ABOVE A SEALED AMOUNT ON OUR CREDIT CARD.

AND CREDIT CARD STATEMENTS ARE SENT MONTHLY TO THE, TO THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

WE HAVE TIGHTENED UP OUR SECURITY.

I, I AM AWARE, UH, I BECAME AWARE OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

AT THE TIME THAT WE NEEDED TO REPLACE SOMEONE, HE WAS NAMED INTERIM.

TO THIS DAY, HE IS JUST INTERIM TRYING TO HELP US TO NOT TO GET SOME PROJECTS FINISHED, BUT WE WERE HOPING TO GET FINISHED.

HE IS NOT A PERMANENT EMPLOYEE.

HAS HAS, HOW LONG HAS HE BEEN ON BOARD? HE HAS NO CONTROL OVER A YEAR.

YEAH, SCOTT.

SCOTT TOLD US.

WELL, SCOTT TOLD ME THAT HE WAS INTERIM WELL OVER A YEAR AGO.

THAT'S, WELL THAT A LONG INTERIM WE HAVEN'T FINISHED MR. KATE'S SOME OF THE PROJECTS.

WE WANT TO GET TO A POINT WHERE WE CAN OPEN A DIFFERENT FACILITY IN FORNEY.

UH, TARRELL HAS TALKED TO US ABOUT A DIFFERENT FACILITY IN, IN THE CITY OF TARRELL.

WE ARE TRYING TO MOVE TOWARD PREPARING OUR MEALS OUT OF ONE KITCHEN AS A COST SAVING METHOD AND THEN DISTRIBUTING THEM.

UM, I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT THERE ARE TIMES THAT WE HAVE NOT EVEN PAID THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND HE HAS CONTINUED TO DELIVER MEALS ON WHEELS.

WE HAVE TOTAL CONTROL OVER THE MONEY.

UM, WE ARE GOING TO LOOK FOR A PERMANENT SOLUTION.

WE ARE GONNA HAVE A BOARD MEETING BECAUSE WE WERE UNAWARE OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS.

WE SET OUR BUDGET BECAUSE I LOOKED AT THE COUNTY'S BUDGET AND I RELIED, AND SO DID OTHER BOARD MEMBERS RELIED ON THAT MONEY TO SET OUR BUDGET.

I'M WILLING TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE APPLICATION PROCESS AND I WOULD'VE LOVED TO HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HAVE DONE THAT TODAY.

BUT LIKE I SAID, HE'S IN I THE ELEPHANT'S IN THE ROOM.

HE IS, HE IS A PARTNER.

AND IN FORNEY, I THINK SOME OF THIS COMES AS A RESULT OF THAT PARTNERSHIP.

BUT YOU'RE HURTING BY, BY TAKING THIS POSITION, YOU'RE BACKING US UP AGAINST THE WALL TO TERMINATE AN EMPLOYEE THAT I'VE ASSURED YOU HAS NO CONTROL OVER THE FINANCES.

DOES THE, UH, DOES THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR MAKE PURCHASES?

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NOT USUALLY.

WE HAVE OTHER EMPLOYEES THAT DO THAT.

SITE DIRECTORS.

HOW MANY JUDGES AND LAWYERS ARE ON YOUR BOARD? THREE JUDGES AND A LAWYER.

A CON, A CONSTABLE.

UM, THE INCOMING COUNTY JUDGES' DAUGHTER.

UM, WE REED IN TIGHT CONTROL OVER SENIOR CONNECT.

WELL, I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT, UH, I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT FIRST, UH, THE COUNTY, I THINK THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT RECOGNIZES THE IMPORTANCE OF SENIOR CONNECT.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S A, UH, I DON'T THINK THERE'S AN UNDERCURRENT HERE IN ANY, IN ANY EFFORT TO SOMEHOW, UH, EXCISE SENIOR CONNECT FROM OUR SUPPORT.

I I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY SORT OF, UH, INCLINATION TO DO THAT.

I THINK WHAT YOU'RE HEARING IS A CONCERN FOR, UH, ACCOUNTABILITY OF PUBLIC FUNDS.

THAT THAT'S, THAT'S THE ISSUE HERE.

AND IT'S NOT JUST, YOU JUST HAPPEN TO BE INVOLVED IN THE, IN THE MOST EGREGIOUS EXAMPLE, BUT I THINK THIS IS A POLICY THAT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT IS, UH, DISCUSSING THAT WOULD BE APPLICABLE ACROSS THE BOARD TO ALL OF THESE NON-PROFITS.

NOT, THIS IS NOT DIRECTED AT SENIOR CONNECTED, AT LEAST NOT BY ME.

I THINK IT'S A VERY VIABLE PUBLIC POLICY TO, UH, EXPECT ACCOUNTABILITY FROM THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT THE COUNTY DONATES PUBLIC FUNDS TO AND IN FACT, WE ALREADY, UH, DEMONSTRATE, UH, AN INTEREST IN ACCOUNTABILITY BY TYPICALLY MAKING THOSE PAYMENTS QUARTERLY AS OPPOSED TO ONE LUMP SUM, WHICH IS THE EXCEPTION WE GAVE SENIOR CONNECT LAST YEAR.

WE MAKE THOSE PAYMENTS QUARTERLY SO THAT IF THERE IS AN IMPROPRIETY OR AN ISSUE THAT THE COUNTY CAN THEN PROTECT THE PUBLIC FUNDS THAT REMAIN.

SO, UH, I I DON'T THINK THAT THIS, UH, DISCUSSION IS IN ANY WAY NEW OR ENHANCED.

AND IT CERTAINLY ISN'T TARGETING YOUR ORGANIZATION, AT LEAST NOT, NOT BY MY ESTIMATION.

UH, YOU JUST HAPPEN TO BE THE MOST, UH, UH, PROMINENT, IF YOU WILL EXAMPLE RIGHT NOW, UH, OF A CONCERN RELATIVE TO ACCOUNTABILITY.

AND FRANKLY, UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN AN INVESTIGATOR A LONG TIME.

UM, A PATTERN OF CONDUCT IS A PATTERN.

AND SO YOU'VE HAD TWO INSTANCES OF QUESTIONABLE FINANCIAL OVERSIGHT AND, UH, I I DON'T THINK IT'S, UH, INAPPROPRIATE FOR US TO, TO QUESTION THAT, UH, TO YOU.

AS FAR AS I KNOW, YOU'RE THE ONLY NON-PROFIT THAT THE COUNTY HAS REQUESTED QUARTERLY FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, AND, AND I'VE LOOKED AT A FEW OF THOSE AND I I HAVE SEEN THAT YOU HAVE PAID YOUR DIRECTOR SOMETHING ON THE ORDER OF 65,000 A YEAR OR MORE.

SO I IF YOU HAVEN'T PAID HIM SALARIES LATELY, I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT, BUT I CERTAINLY SAW THAT HE HAS BEEN PAID AND HE CERTAINLY BUDGETED TO BE PAID.

WELL, IT IS IN THE BUDGET, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES THAT WE COULD NOT PAY HIM, AND HE CONTINUED TO WORK.

SO THE 125,000 THAT WE GAVE YOU LAST YEAR TO OVERCOME YOUR, YOUR, WHAT WAS, WHAT WAS PRESENTED AS A SHORT TERM CASH FLOW PROBLEM THAT HAS NOT RESOLVED.

I JUST TOLD YOU THAT WE INCREASED OUR MEALS BY $27,000.

THE COST FOR US TO OPERATE HAS GONE UP.

WE ARE CURRENTLY TALKING WITH CPAS BECAUSE WE WANT TO CONTRACT OUT WHAT OUR FINANCIAL OFFICER HAD DONE, UH, TO TRY TO SAVE SOME MONEY.

OUR COSTS HAVE GONE UP JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE HAS HAD.

WE, WE, WE NEVER OPERATE WITH IN THE BLACK.

WE ARE NEVER GONNA BE IN THE BLACK BECAUSE WE ARE A SERVICE ORGANIZATION.

WE ARE A SMALL SERVICE ORGANIZATION.

WELL, WE ARE ACTUALLY THE BIGGEST THAT THE COUNTY CONTRIBUTES TO.

YES, WE ARE.

WE ARE BECAUSE WE SERVE PEOPLE MEALS.

NO HUNGRY SENIOR.

MY, I THINK THE MAIN REASON THAT I'M HERE TODAY IS BECAUSE EVERY ONE OF YOU KNOWS MY CONNECTION WITH SENIOR CONNECT, AND YET NO ONE REACHED OUT TO ME UNTIL TODAY PUBLICLY TO TALK ABOUT THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.

WE WENT TO STAFF WITH EVERY ONE OF THOSE APPLICATIONS IN EVERY ORGANIZATION.

WE DID NOT SEND THE APPLICATIONS TO THE BOARD.

BUT YET YOUR CONCERNS WERE NEVER BROUGHT TO, TO ME OR ANY OTHER

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BOARD MEMBER.

THAT'S NOT TRUE.

THAT SHOWED YESTERDAY.

THAT'S, THAT'S NOT TRUE.

WHO DID YOU I DISCUSSED IT WITH YOUR, UH, YOUR CHAIRMAN.

I AM THE CHAIRMAN.

WELL, THEN YOUR FORMER CHAIRMAN.

AND WHEN DID YOU DO THAT? WHEN THIS CAME UP? LA UH, MONTHS AGO.

WELL, I CALL THE QUESTION IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

YEAH, BUT I I NEED TO GET TO COURT.

I ASK ONE QUESTION.

SURE.

JUDGE GORDON, WHO SIGNS THE CHECKS.

I DO.

IS AND IF I, AND SO DOES YOUR HONOR SIGN ON THE YES.

JUDGE GIBBS.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND.

JUST GO AHEAD.

AND SINCE YOU HANDED THIS TO ME, AND, AND I'M NOT REAL GOOD AT READING THIS STUFF.

I'VE NEVER HAD MUCH TO DEAL WITH IT, BUT ALL THIS WAS LIKE OH EIGHT, RIGHT? 2008.

YOUR POINT BEING POINT BEING THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CHANGE IN OH EIGHT FROM 22 IS A LOT OF YEARS AGO.

AND A LOT OF PEOPLE MATURE FOR, YOU KNOW, SO A THIEF IS A THIEF.

A THIEF IS ALWAYS A THIEF.

YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT ANYONE HAS A, IS A, YOU KNOW, HAS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A SECOND CHANCE TO PROVE THEMSELVES.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY THAT YOU CAN'T WORK FOR KAUFMAN COUNTY IF YOU HAVE A CRIMINAL BACKGROUND.

THERE, WE WON'T EMPLOY IT DOESN'T MATTER WHEN IT IS.

IF YOU HAVE A CRIMINAL BACKGROUND IN KAUFMAN COUNTY, YOU CAN'T GO TO WORK YET.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GIVING TAX.

THAT'S NOT TRUE.

IT'S BECAUSE WE'RE CONTROLLING TAX FIGURES.

THAT'S NOT TRUE.

JUDGE , THERE ARE EMPLOYEES IN THIS COUNTY THAT HAVE A CRIMINAL BACKGROUND.

NOT THAT, THAT I'M AWARE OF.

CUZ EVERYBODY HAS TO HAVE A CRIMINAL BACKGROUND CHECK.

I'M CALL, I'M NOT DO LIKE YOU AND BRING THEIR NAMES OUT HERE IN COURT.

BUT THEY ARE.

CUZ I KNOW SOME OF 'EM.

AND, UH, WELL, I HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY OF THE COMPLAINTS FROM ANYBODY.

WELL, THIS GENTLEMAN HASN'T, HASN'T SHOWN, AS FAR AS I KNOW, SINCE HE'S BEEN OUT OF THIS PREDICAMENT THAT HE'S DONE ANYTHING WRONG.

HE'S DONE A LOT OF THINGS RIGHT.

A LOT OF THINGS FOR THIS ORGANIZATION.

HE STOLE MONEY FROM AN ALZHEIMER'S CHARITY.

OVER WHAT, HOW MANY YEARS AGO? 2008.

OH, THAT'S OKAY.

I, AND, UH, NO, SEE, YOU'RE NOT A VERY REASONABLE PERSON.

UH, THERE, THERE'S TWO SIDES TO STORY.

AND THIS WAS A PLEA DEAL FROM WHAT I'M READING HERE, WHICH MEANS THERE WAS MORE TO IT THAN WHAT WAS OUT THERE.

HE WAS CHARGED OF THE CLASS A MISDEMEANOR, WHICH IS A JAIL, A JAIL FELONY, OR A JAIL CRIME.

IT'S NOT A FELONY, IT'S A MISDEMEANOR CRIME.

YOU'VE STATED A COUPLE OF TIMES THIS IS A FELONY ON THIS AND IT'S NOT.

I DIDN'T SAY A FELONY.

YEAH, YOU DID.

YOU SAID IT LAST WEEK.

ANYWAY, I THINK THIS SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD DEALS WITH THEMSELVES.

THEY NEED TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING AND SEE WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT IT.

BUT I ALSO THINK THAT WE SHOULD SPEND SOME MORE TIME ON THIS, UH, LIKE I SAID IN WORKSHOPS OR SOMETHING TO GET THIS WHOLE MESS STRAIGHTENED OUT.

WE'VE ALREADY STARTED THE, UH, THE QUARTERLY PAYMENTS.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT TAKING MONEY AWAY FROM ANYBODY.

NO, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH LOOKING BACK AT THESE THINGS, WHATEVER.

BUT I THINK THAT, LIKE I SAID, THIS GENTLEMAN HAS PROVEN HIMSELF TO BE ON THE STRAIGHT AND NARROW.

SINCE THEN, NOTHING HAS BEEN HAPPENED THAT I KNOW OF SINCE THEN, SINCE 2008.

UH, I BELIEVE SOME PEOPLE DESERVE A SECOND CHANCE DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY DID.

I MEAN, THIS ISN'T A MURDER BY ANY MEANS.

UH, BUT YEAH, IT WAS WRONG.

AND APPARENTLY HE PAID HIS DEBT TO SOCIETY AND THIS BOARD FELT LIKE, UH, IT WAS A GOOD THING TO GIVE HIM THIS OPPORTUNITY.

AND HE'S SHOWN HIM TO DO A GOOD JOB.

AM I CORRECT WITH THAT? JUDGE? DID THE BOARD KNOW THAT ABOUT THIS CRIMINAL RECORD WHEN YOU EMPLOYED HIM? YES, SIR, I DID.

AND WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND, I'M GONNA CALL THE ROLE COMMISSIONER HUNT.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

COMMISSIONER BARBER.

COMMISSIONER KATES? NO.

UH, I'LL VOTE NO.

THAT MOTION CARRIES THREE TO TWO.

[13. Auditor; Discuss/Consider line-item and budget transfers/corrections.]

WE'LL GO TO THE AUDITOR.

ITEM 13, DISCUSS CONSIDER LINE ITEM IN BUDGET TRANSFERS.

WE WANT TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE CENTER CHILDREN'S SHELTER AND REACH CPA WITH THE, I THINK YOU SAID WE HAD ABOUT 80,000 LEFT OVER FROM THE, WE GOT THE CONTRACT SIGNED FOR NPA, THE MENTAL HEALTH COORDINATOR.

SO WE'VE GOT ABOUT $80,000 THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO.

IF WE SO CHOOSE TO FUND THE THREE ON THE LIST THAT YOU GAVE US THAT ARE NOT ON THE LIST.

THE CENTER CHILDREN'S SHELTER AND REACH CPA, HER CHILDREN'S CHILDREN IS IS ON LINE ITEM, ISN'T IT? OKAY.

THE CHILDREN'S SHELTER DOES HAVE LINE, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EARLY NORVILLE CHILDREN, IT'S ON PAGE 25 OF THE BUDGET.

BUT THIS IS EARLY NORVILLE CHILDREN'S SHELTER, RIGHT? I THINK IT'S 25.

YOU HAVE A LINE ITEM.

IT'S 26.

WELL, THEY DON'T HAVE A LINE ITEM.

THEY HAVE AN HOLD WHOLE ACCOUNT.

IN SOCIAL SECURITY OF 68 28 IN EMPLOYEE INSURANCE OF 10,000 4 86 AND RETIREMENT EIGHT NINE 8,972.

IN THE MENTAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

I HAVE SALARIES AND ALLIANCES OF 89,250

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SO THOSE FOUR COULD BE ADDED UP AND MOVED SINCE THE N TBH IS PAYING FOR THAT EMPLOYEE.

AND IT COULD BE DISTRIBUTED ANYWHERE YOU'D LIKE.

DO YOU JUST NEED TO INFORM ME, I DON'T THINK THAT WE CAN VOTE TO FUND THESE ORGANIZATIONS IF WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS TRANS LINE ITEM TRANSFERRED TO MAKE THAT AVAILABLE.

I'D HAVE TO CREATE THOSE LINE ITEMS. THAT'S WHAT I'M, BUT I THINK WE NEED THE LINE ITEM TRANSFERS FIRST BEFORE WE CAN SPEND THE MONEY OR WE CAN ALLOCATE THE MONEY.

WELL, IF YOU D IF YOU AGREE ON WHAT YOU WANT TO GIVE THEM, I COULD USE THE MINUTES THAT MS. LAURA WOULD GIVE ME AND, AND THEN I COULD DO THAT TRANSFER AND COVER IT.

BUT THAT'S UP TO Y'ALL.

I'M NOT TELLING YOU WHAT TO DO.

I CAN JUST FIX IT.

I WOULD SUGGEST YOU COME BACK TO US WITH LINE ITEM OF TRANSFERS AND THEN WE WOULD PUT THAT AT THE END OF THE AGENDA TO FUND THOSE ORGANIZATIONS.

HOW WOULD I KNOW HOW MUCH TO PUT THERE, JUDGE? UH, YOU COULD PUT IT IN.

I, I DON'T, DON'T KNOW.

SURELY YOU CAN PUT IT IN ANOTHER FUND SOMEWHERE.

BUT WE, WE CAN'T TAKE OUT A SALARIES UNTIL MEAN, LIKE, IF, IF WE'VE GOT MAYBE SAY, $120,000 AVAILABLE, YOU WANNA GIVE SOMEBODY 10? YOU WANNA GIVE SOMEBODY 5,000? I CAN DO THAT AND PUT THE REST IN CONTINGENCIES.

I NEED THE NUMBERS TO, TO BE ABLE TO TRANSFORM.

WHY DON'T WE JUST LINE OUT, TRANSFER THE WHOLE THING INTO CONTINGENCY AND THEN BRING IT.

I DON'T, WHATEVER.

I ALREADY GOT MONEY IN CONTINGENCY WHEN Y'ALL DECIDE, THEN I'LL MOVE THE REST BACK THERE.

BUT, UM, ONLINE ITEM TRANSFER.

OH, SORRY.

YOU FINISHED? DID YOU HAVE A NUMBER? IS JESS NO, NO, I DON'T.

I I JUST, ALL I KNOW IS I GOT THE LIST WITH THE, WE KNOW WHAT THEY'RE, I GOT THE APPLICATIONS.

WHY DON'T WE BRING THAT BACK NEXT WEEK WHEN WE THAT'S FINE.

ALREADY VOTED ON ITEM 12.

AND I'M NOT EVEN SURE THAT WE CAN REALLY, REALLY JUST SHOULD BE DOING THAT.

WELL, IT WAS ALL PART OF THE MOTION.

SO LET'S, UH, IT WAS NOT PART OF THE MOTION.

I ADDED IT END THAT WE DISCUSSED THESE.

THAT WAS THE DEAL, TO USE THE WHOLE PROCESS.

DOES ANYBODY DISAGREE WITH BRINGING THIS BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING? THAT'S FINE WITH ME.

LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND BRING IT BACK NEXT.

14, DISCUSS, CONSIDER CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT AND OR FINANCIAL INFORMATION.

BACK TO YOU, KAREN, WITH THE LINE.

I'M TRANS AND YOU'LL, YOU'LL BRING THE APPLICATIONS BACK AGAIN FOR THESE THREE OR TWO OR, UH, Y'ALL HAVE THEM.

NO, ACTUALLY I LEFT IT STACKED RIGHT HERE ON THE DEAL AND SOMEONE CLEANED UP MY AREA.

I'LL GET YOU A COPY OF THOSE ONES THAT ARE OPEN.

I WILL GO BY THOSE APPLICATIONS AND PUT THAT AMOUNT IN THOSE LINE ITEMS. OKAY? OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, SURPRISE, THERE WASN'T ANY BUDGET AMENDMENTS OR TRANSFERS THIS TIME.

OKAY, THEN WE'LL PASS ON.

NEVERMIND.

UH, ITEM

[14. Auditor; Discuss/Consider claims for payment and/or Financial Information as provided by the County Auditor,]

YOUR CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT ARE $2,450,084 AND 75 CENTS.

A PAYROLL OF 1,000,660 $1,353 AND 52 CENTS.

TOTAL PAYOUT $4,111,438 AND 27 CENTS.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS FOR THE AUDITOR? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT AS PRESENTED? UM, I DID MOTION WE HAVE A MOTION COMMISSIONER HUNT.

IS THERE A SECOND? NO, SECOND.

COMMISSIONER BARBARA, DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY TO SAYING AYE.

MAKE A MOTION DURING THIS MEETING.

OPPOS? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

I'LL

[15. Adjourn Meeting]

COMMISSIONER PHYLLIS MOSO ADJOURN.

COMMISSIONER BARBER DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.