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MA'AM,

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THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE KAIN COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S

[ Call to Order]

COURT IS CALLED TO ORDER.

TODAY IS NOVEMBER 22ND, 2022.

IT'S 9:00 AM AND WE ARE IN THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING ROOM IN THE COURTHOUSE ANNEX.

UH, WE'LL START OUR MEETING TODAY WITH AN INVOCATION.

I'LL OFFER THE INVOCATION AND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGES.

PLEASE STAND.

HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THE BLESSINGS OF THIS LIFE.

AND WE ARE ESPECIALLY, WE SHOULD ALL BE ESPECIALLY MINDFUL OF ALL OF THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE DONE FOR US.

IN ALL OF THE GREAT THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO BE THANKFUL FOR.

WE ASK THAT YOU GOT US TODAY AS WE MAKE DECISIONS ON BEHALF OF OUR CITIZENS.

AND WE ASK THAT YOU, UH, GUARD AND PROTECT ALL OF THOSE WHO PROTECT US.

WE ASK ALL THIS IN JESUS' NAME, I'M AMEN.

AMEN.

PLEDGE, PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE THREE PUBLIC FOR WHICH IT, IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY.

JUSTICE FOR HONOR, FLAG OUR PLEDGE, LEAD US TO LEAD TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD ONE.

AND IN THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH.

GOOD MORNING TO EVERYBODY AGAIN.

UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY NOTES, NOTICES THAT ANYBODY IS GOING.

ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WANTS TO SPEAK TO THE COURT.

SO WE'LL

[1. ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE. ]

MOVE ON TO ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.

I HAVE ONE, UH, REALLY GREAT THING TO REPORT FROM LAST WEEK.

UM, MANY OF YOU KNOW THAT, UH, THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS, THE NORTH TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS, ONE OF THE DEPARTMENTS IN THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS IS THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION COUNCIL.

THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL RECEIVES FEDERAL MONEY AND USES THAT MONEY FOR TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS.

UH, THERE, THE BOARD IS MADE UP OF CITIES AND COUNTIES, UH, ACROSS THE REGION.

AND OUR SITUATION IS AT KAIN COUNTY, WE HAVE ALWAYS, WE SHARE A SEAT WITH ELLIS COUNTY.

NOW, THE WAY THAT'S SUPPOSED TO WORK IS, UH, ELLIS COUNTY IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE, AND KAUFMAN COUNTY IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE A VOTING REPRESENTATIVE, AND THAT SEAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE ROTATED FROM ON A TIME TO TIME BASIS, BUT IT'S ALWAYS BEEN OPTIONAL.

SO WE'VE, WE'VE, UH, BEEN ASKING FOR YEARS, MANY YEARS.

I KNOW EVEN CERTAINLY IN, UH, JUDGE WOODS TERM BEFORE ME ASKING EITHER FOR A SEAT, A VOTING REPRESENTATIVE SEAT AT THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL, OR THAT ELLIS COUNTY WOULD SHARE THAT SEAT WITH US.

AND LAST WEEK, THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL, AFTER MUCH WORK CHANGED ITS BYLAWS.

AND THE BYLAWS NOW REQUIRE THAT A A TWO COUNTIES THAT SHARE A SEAT, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO ROTATE THAT SEAT.

SO THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON FOR MANY YEARS AND, UH, IT JUST GIVES US A VOICE WHEN IT COMES TO THE INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF FEDERAL FUNDING THAT'S AVAILABLE.

SO I WANT TO THANK THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL.

AND, UH, IT'S, IT'S A REALLY, IT'S A THING THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE MIGHT NOT BE AWARE OF, BUT IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT THING, A VERY IMPORTANT, UM, CHANGE IN THEIR BYLAWS.

DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE TO SHARE? I DO, JUDGE.

YES, MA'AM.

THAT'S OKAY.

A LOT OF TIMES I'M THE RECIPIENT OF MAIL THAT NOBODY KNOWS WHO TO GIVE IT TO.

SO THIS WAS ADDRESSED TO THE AUDITOR, BUT IT CAME FROM OUR REPRESENTATIVE LANCE GOODEN, AND IT WAS TO CONGRATULATE ON THE GRAND OPENING OF THE KAUFMAN COUNTY JUSTICE CENTER, .

AND I WANTED TO GIVE IT TO YOU, JUDGE.

OH, THANK YOU, .

SO I'LL READ IT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT'S ALL IT SAYS IT, IT'S FROM LANCE GOODEN, MEMBER OF CONGRESS.

IT SAYS, CONGRATULATIONS ON THE GRAND OPENING OF THE COFFIN COUNTY JUSTICE CENTER.

SO LOOK AT THE ENVELOPE.

IT'S ADDRESSED TO THE JUSTICE CENTER, BUT THEY SENT IT CAUSE THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.

WELL, IT ENDED UP IN THE RIGHT PLACE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND THANKS TO YOU'RE WELCOME.

LANCE GOODEN.

DID ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE?

[2. CONSENT AGENDA ]

OKAY.

THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM TWO, THE CONSENT AGENDA.

WE HAVE A LONG LIST OF CONGEN CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, MOSTLY HAVING TO DO WITH FIBER OPTIC CABLE.

THAT'S A THROUGH G.

DOES ANY COMMISSIONER CARE TO PULL ANY OF THOSE ITEMS OFF FOR INDIVIDUAL DISCUSSION? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA

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AS PRESENTED? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

SECOND.

COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

UHHUH.

OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

NOW

[3. Tandi Smith; Discuss/Consider Canvassing the November 8, 2022 General/Joint Election Results. ]

WE'LL BRING UP TANDY SMITH, OUR ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR DISCUSSING CONSIDER CANVASSING THE NOVEMBER 8TH, 2022 GENERAL JOINT ELECTION RESULTS.

AND CONGRATULATIONS ON CARRYING OUT IN VERY DIFFICULT TIMES.

A REALLY GREAT ELECTION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I HAVE AN AMAZING STAFF.

I COULD NOT DO IT WITHOUT 'EM.

THAT IS FOR SURE.

AND JUST TO GIVE YOU GUYS A PERSPECTIVE ON HOW MUCH GROWTH THIS COUNTY HAS EXPERIENCED AND PREPARATION, PULL YOUR MICROPHONE DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT OF THIS ELECTION.

WE DO COMPARISONS.

THAT'S SOMETHING I STARTED WHEN I CAME ON IN 2021.

BETWEEN AUGUST AND OCTOBER IN 2021, OUR OFFICE DID 3,538 TRANSACTIONS.

BETWEEN AUGUST AND OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR, OUR OFFICE COMPLETED 26,000.

WOW.

553 TRANSACTIONS.

WE'VE EXPERIENCED A 31% GROWTH.

SO JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT MOVING FORWARD ON HOW QUICKLY OUR COUNTY IS REALLY GROWING.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, I'VE SENT YOU GUYS THE ELECTION RESULTS.

THESE ARE THE FINEST CANVAS RESULTS.

UH, WE HAD A TOTAL NUMBER OF VOTERS VOTED OF 40 3015 FOR THE GOVERNOR'S RACE.

I'M GONNA READ THOSE TOTALS AS WELL AS THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR BECAUSE I'M REQUIRED TO, BEFORE SIGNING OFF ON THEM AND SUBMITTING THEM TO THE STATE.

AND THE GOVERNOR'S RAISED.

GREG ABBOTT HAD 28,306.

BETO O'ROURKE HAD 14,024.

MARK T**S HAD 379.

DELILAH BARRIOS HAD 111.

JACQUELINE ABERNATHY HAD SEVEN VOTES AND MARK V BE HAD FOUR.

FOR THE RACE OF LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR DAN PATRICK HAD 27,491 VOTES.

MIKE COLLIER HAD 13,931.

SHANNON STILL HAD 1,106.

SO THOSE WERE THE OFFICIAL GOVERNOR AND LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR'S RESULTS THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO CANVAS SEPARATELY FROM OUR OWN.

UM, DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE OTHER RACES? OKAY.

OKAY.

IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT CANVAS HAS PRESENTED? I'LL MAKE A MOTION WAY.

THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS IS THEIR SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

SECOND.

COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSE? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

AND

[4. Tandi Smith; Discuss/Consider approval for Election Staff to attend the Texas Association of Election Administrators Mid-Winter Conference January 1-7,2023 in San Antonio Texas.]

THEN BACK TO TANDY.

DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF ELECTIONS STAFF TO ATTEND THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF ELECTION ADMINISTRATORS MID-WINTER CONFERENCE JANUARY 1ST THROUGH SEVENTH IN SAN ANTONIO.

CORRECT.

WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND THE TA E A MIDWINTER CONFERENCE THIS YEAR.

I'LL BE RECEIVING MY RIO CERTIFICATION.

THE GIRLS WILL ATTEND THEIR COURSES TO COMPLETE HALF OF THEIR CERTIFICATION, AND THEIR CERTIFICATION WOULD THEN BE COMPLETE IN 2024.

THIS IS AT NO COST TO THE COUNTY AS THE STATE PAYS FOR IT OUT OF OUR CHAPTER 19 FUNDING, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF PARKING, WHICH MY BUDGET CAN SUPPORT.

QUESTIONS.

NO.

IT SOUNDS LIKE WIN-WIN.

WELL FOR NO QUESTIONS.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, THAT THE, THE DEPARTMENT ATTENDING THAT MEETING AS PRESENTED IN ITEM FOUR? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

WHERE THAT MOTION FOR APPROVAL FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

SECOND.

COMMISSIONER KATE'S DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

OPPOS? NO.

THAT MOTION CARRIES AGAIN, THANK YOU AGAIN.

THANK YOU GENTLEMEN.

YOU HAVE A GREAT DAY.

ITEM FIVE, CHUCK

[5. Chuck Mohnkern; Present/Accept the Treasurer's monthly report for October 2022. ]

MON KERN, OUR TREASURER TO PRESENT FOR ACCEPTANCE.

THE TREASURER'S MONTHLY REPORT FOR OCTOBER, 2022.

MORNING JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS MORNING.

MORNING.

WE, UH, STARTED OFF OCTOBER, UH, IN FUND 10 WITH $17,388,000.

UH, RECEIPTS OF 7 MILLION DISBURSEMENTS OF 11.8 MILLION.

ENDING BALANCE IN FUND 10 OF $12,583,255.

WE EARNED INTEREST ON AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK ACCOUNTS OF $3,245 AND 47 CENTS EARNINGS ON THE INVESTMENTS IN TEXT POOL AND TEXAS CLASS $283,296 AND 33 CENTS.

OUR AMOUNT, TOTAL AMOUNT INVESTED IN TEXT POOL IS 36,078,160.

TOTAL INVESTED IN TEXAS CLASS IS 61,475,347.

OUR AVERAGE YIELD ON TECH POOL INVESTMENTS, 3.2103% AVERAGE YIELD ON TEXAS

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CLASS DURING OCTOBER 3.2287%.

OUR, UH, TOTAL COUNTY FUNDS IN AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK AS OF THE END OF OCTOBER 52,660,649.

THE VALUE OF THE PLEDGE SECURITIES AT THE END OF THE MONTH, 194,981,756.

SO WE ARE COLLATERALIZED QUITE WELL AT 370%.

OUR PERCENTAGE, UH, OF CASH INVESTED IS 64.94% PERCENTAGE, UH, THAT'S IN AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK, 35.06.

WE, UH, ISSUED 343 RECEIPTS DURING THE MONTH OF OCTOBER FROM OUR OFFICE FOR A TOTAL OF $2,329,873.

ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS.

THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS.

THEN IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE TREASURER'S MONTHLY REPORT FOR OCTOBER 22? SO, MOVE WE HAVE THAT MOTION.

COMMISSIONER KATES.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

WELL, SECOND.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION.

OPPOS IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSE? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU.

NEXT STEP.

[6. Teressa Floyd; Present/Accept the Tax Assessor-Collector's monthly report for October 2022 ]

TERESA FLOYD PRESENT FOR ACCEPTANCE TO TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR'S MONTHLY REPORT FOR OCTOBER OF 2022.

I DON'T THINK THERE WAS, THERE WAS SOMETHING MISSING OUTTA Y'ALL PACKET THIS MORNING.

UH, THESE GET STARTED.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM.

, I'M IN THE TOP SHEET.

MM-HMM.

.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

ALL RIGHT.

SO FOR THE MONTH OF OCTOBER, UM, OUR CURRENT COLLECTIONS WERE AT 394,000 118 AND 91 CENTS.

OUR DELINQUENT WERE 203,000 289 60 FOR A TOTAL COLLECTION OF 597,000 4 0 8 51.

OUR UNPAID DEFERRALS WERE, UM, 174,000 2 56 32.

OUR ROAD AND BRIDGE WE COLLECTED 79,000 434 95 DELINQUENT COLLECTIONS, 41 8 29 69 FOR A TOTAL COLLECTIVE OF 120 1002 64 64.

OUR DEFERRAL UNPAID FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE IS 30,000 672 50.

WE HAD 1,789 TRANSACTIONS FOR THE MONTH AND WE HAD, UM, ROLLBACK FOR PRECINCT TWO TWO OF 87 ACRES, UH, 2 39.

UH, QUESTIONS IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR'S MONTHLY REPORT FOR OCTOBER 22? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

SWEAR THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER HUNT.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

SECOND.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

OPPOS? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

UH, BACK TO YOU AGAIN, TERESA.

[7. Teressa Floyd; Present/Accept the Tax Assessor-Collector's monthly Auto Collections monthly report for October 2022. ]

PRESENT FOR ACCEPTANCE TO THE TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR'S MONTHLY AUTO COLLECTION.

MONTHLY REPORT.

OKAY.

FOR THE MONTH OF OCTOBER, WE COLLECTED $1,728,446 AND 12 CENTS.

NO, WE DIDN'T, WE COLLECTED 2 MILLION SIX HUNDRED AND FIFTY TWO SIXTY ONE AND 8 CENTS.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

AND, UM, SO WE DID HAVE A TOTAL COLLECTIONS OF THAT.

WE PAID OUT 190,000, 6 39 10 TO THE COUNTY OF THAT, UM, AMOUNT.

SO, UM, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS WE DID FOR THE YEAR OF 2021? IT WASN'T, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN LAST YEAR OF THAT MONTH, BUT NOT MUCH.

BUT THE TRANSACTIONS WERE UP, SO WE DID, WE DO A LOT OF TRANSACTIONS LIKE 900 AND, LET'S SEE, 9,003 WINDSHIELD STICKERS FOR THE MONTH OF OCTOBER ALONE.

YEAH.

SO 2004, YOU KNOW, 114 TITLES FOR JUST THE MONTH.

THAT'S A LOT.

THAT'S A LOT OF TRANSACTIONS THAT WE, WE PROCESS THROUGHOUT THE TRA YOU KNOW, THE TITLE DEPARTMENT.

BUT THE TAX DEPARTMENT'S FIXING TO PICK UP A LOT TOO.

Y'ALL WE'LL SEE A BIG CHANGE IN THAT NEXT MONTH.

QUESTIONS? IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE TAX ASSESS OR COLLECTOR'S REPORT THAT'S PRESENTED? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION WITH THAT MOTION.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

SECOND.

COMMISSIONER CAGE DISCUSSION DOES IN FAVOR SIGNIFY AS SAYING AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSE? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

NEXT UP, JACK

[8. Jack Sebastian; Discuss and consider awarding Bid # 23-01 Road Repairs / Asphalt Overlay for Pet. 4 Road & Bridge. ]

SEBASTIAN, DISCUSS,

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CONSIDER AWARDING BID 2301 ROAD REPAIRS ASPHALT OVERLAY FOR PRECINCT FOUR.

GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN.

GOOD MORNING.

WE, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A COPY OF THAT TABULATION.

UH, WE RECEIVED THREE BIDS, UH, AAA PAVING DONE ASPHALT AND TEXAS MATERIAL GROUP.

UH, UH, AAA WAS LOW BID AT $211,200 FOR REPAIRS TO COUNTY ROAD 40 11.

UH, I CHECKED THE REFERENCES.

UH, I THINK MY RECOMMENDATION MAY DIFFER FROM THE COMMISSIONER.

UH, BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND AWARD A LOAD BID.

UH, QUESTIONS JACK, WHERE, WHERE IS THAT COMPANY LOCATED? ATHENS.

OKAY.

UH, I DO RECOMMEND, UH, I DO RECOMMEND THAT WE GO WITH DONE.

WE HAVE A HISTORY OF THEIR SUCCESSFUL WORK WITH US.

ADDITIONALLY, THEY'RE AN IN THE COUNTY VENDOR.

UM, WHAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE IN THE BIDS? UH, AAA WAS 211,200.

UH, DONE IS 294,000 5 84.

83,000.

ROUGH, I GUESS, RIGHT? AND THEN TEXAS MATERIALS IS TWO 60? YES, SIR.

AND AAA, SORRY.

TEXAS MATERIALS IS A CURRENT VENDOR AND THEY'RE AT TWO 60, I THINK TEXAS MATERIALS.

WHAT, WHAT'S THE DATE OF THEIR BID? I THOUGHT THAT BID WAS OLD.

UH, THEY ANSWERED THIS BID.

THEY DID? YES, SIR.

THEY REBI.

YES, SIR.

OKAY, WELL I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO GO WITH THE, THE AUDITORS, I'M SORRY, THE PURCHASING AGENTS' RECOMMENDATION.

UH, COMMISSIONER KATES MAKES A MOTION TO, UH, FOLLOW THE PERKING AGENT'S RECOMMENDATION, WHICH IS TO AWARD THAT BID TO DUNN.

IS THAT CORRECT? NO.

NO.

AAA.

AAA.

I'M SORRY TO AWARD THAT BID TO AAA.

UH, THAT'S COMMISSIONER KATE'S MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? CAN I, CAN I ASK THE QUESTION? I MEAN, BEFORE WE VOTE ON THIS, UH, THE AAA, I'VE NEVER USED THEM.

I'VE NEVER USED 'EM.

NEVER USED THEM.

NO, I'VE NEVER HEARD OF 'EM.

SO I CAN'T HELP YOU.

SO I GUESS MY ONLY REQUEST WOULD BE IF YOU WOULD SHARE A FOLLOW UP IF WE DO THIS AS FAR AS THE QUALITY OF WORK.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TIMELINE IS.

JACK, DID THEY ON THIS, DID THEY GO OUT AND LOOK AT THIS? CAUSE THEY, THEY DIDN'T CONTACT ME ABOUT GOING OUT AND LOOK AT IT AS THE OTHER VENDORS DID.

COMMISSIONER, I, I ASSUME THEY DID.

UH, YOU KNOW, I, I SPOKE TO YOU IN THE OFFICE.

I INVITED YOU TO HELP ME, UH, TO CHECK A REFERENCES ON THAT.

AND, UH, WELL ACTUALLY I DON'T RECALL YOU INVITING ME TO DO THAT.

BUT WHAT, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT REFERENCES YOU GOT? BECAUSE I, I'VE NEVER HEARD OF THEM.

ONE OF, ONE OF 'EM I KNOW IS CITY CHANDLER.

I HAVE A, UH, ONE IS SOUTH POINT, ONE IS CITY OF CHANDLER AND ONE IS LEWIS SUBDIVISION.

I CONTACTED ALL THREE, UH, UH, IF YOU'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, PUT TABLE THIS AND, AND CONTACT THOSE FOLKS.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.

I'D LEAVE THAT UP TO COMMISSIONER CASE IF HE OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

LET ME, LET ME, LET'S KIND OF GIVE, I THINK I'D LIKE TO AMEND MY MOTION, JUDGE.

OKAY.

I'D LIKE TO AMEND MY MOTION THAT, UH, WELL, I APPRECIATE THE PURCHASING EFFORTS.

I REALLY FEEL COMFORTABLE, UH, WITH OUR HISTORY WITH DONE PAVING, UH, AS I EXPLAINED PREVIOUSLY, DONE, UH, ACTUALLY KIND OF, UH, UH, SPECIALIZES, IF YOU WILL, IN THIS KIND OF ROAD FOR OUR PRECINCT, WHICH IS VERY NARROW BECAUSE OF THEIR SMALLER EQUIPMENT.

UH, THEY'VE DONE GREAT WORK.

UH, AND I RECOGNIZE THAT THE, THE, UH, ATTRACTION OF THE LOW BIDDER, BUT I, I FEEL VERY CONFIDENT IN NOT ONLY THEIR WORK, BUT ALSO THEIR WARRANTY.

UH, SO I'M GONNA AMEND MY MOTION THAT WE, UH, NOT FOLLOW THE PURCHASING AGENTS AGREEMENT, BUT THAT WE AWARD THIS CONTRACTED DONE.

JUDGE, I'D LIKE TO ADD ONE ITEM.

ALSO, TALK TO TEXAS BIT.

I KNOW THE COMMISSIONER HAD CONCERN ABOUT, UH, THEIR EQUIPMENT, THE ABILITY TO WORK ON SMALL ROADS.

UH, MR. WARNER ADVISED ME THAT, THAT THEY HAD EQUIPMENT TO WORK ON SMALL ROADS.

UH, THEY'RE NOT IN THIS BID PROCESS.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE SECOND LOW.

OH, OKAY.

THEY ARE, THEY ARE.

THE PROBLEM WITH TEXAS BIT, AS I EXPLAINED TO YOU, JACK, IS THAT THEIR AVAILABILITY IS, IS UH, UH, UM, UH, NOT IMMEDIATE AND THE NEED ON THIS PARTICULAR ROAD BEFORE THE WEATHER.

AND THE, THIS ROAD IS, UH, IS HAUNTED BY EXCESSIVE FLOODING

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AND OVERTOPPING OF THE ROAD.

UH, SO THAT'S WHY IT'S CRITICAL THAT WE TRY TO GET THIS DONE BEFORE THE SPRING RAINS.

SO ONCE AGAIN, I BELIEVE THAT, UH, ALL OF THOSE FACTORS JUSTIFY AN AWARD OF, OF, UH, THIS CONTRACT TO THE DONE.

THAT'S MY MOTION.

OKAY.

SO WE HAVE THAT MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER KATES.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THE MOTION.

UH, I'M SORRY.

UH, JUDGE, UH, JUST TO QUICKLY BRING IT TO THE COURTS ATTENTIONS, WHILE YOU MAKE A MOTION, IS THAT IF THERE IS A BID, THAT'S TO TAKE A BID OF SOMEONE WHO'S NOT THE LOWEST BIDDER.

THIS COURT ACTUALLY HAS TO CONSIDER ADDITIONAL EVIDENCE HAS TO GIVE THE LOWER, ANY LOWER BIDDER WHEN THERE ARE TWO, A CHANCE TO COME BEFORE THIS COURT TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL EVIDENCE.

JUST SO THE COURSE AWARE.

AND, AND THAT IS 2 62 0.027 OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.

OKAY.

SO THEN LOOKS AT ME LIKE, UM, JUDGE, IT COULD BE, IT COULD BE TABLED FOR THE COMMISSIONER TO, TO SPEAK WITH THE LOW BID AND FIND OUT, YOU KNOW, THEIR HISTORY OR TO GET WITH TEXAS BID AND FIND OUT SECOND LITTLE BID IF THEY COULD ACTUALLY GET ON THAT JOB AS NEEDED.

OKAY.

I'LL, UH, I'LL MAKE, I'LL AMEND MY MOTION AGAIN TO TABLE THIS.

OKAY.

I DO SOME ADDITIONAL RESEARCH.

OKAY.

SO THE MOTION IS AMENDED TO TABLE.

MY SECOND STANCE IS MORE DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

OPPOS? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

[9. Commissioner Barber; Discuss/Consider approval of M&S Services to do road repairs on Ridge Dr.; Norton Dr.; and Mitchell Dr. in Kaufman County Pet. 3, in the amount of $186,000.00. ]

UM, NEXT ITEM HAS GOT COMMISSIONER BARBER'S NAME ON IT.

IT'S DISCUSSED.

CONSIDER APPROVAL OF M ANDS SERVICES TO DO ROAD REPAIRS ON RIDGE ROAD.

NORTON DRIVE IN MITCHELL DRIVE IN KAUFMAN COUNTY PRECINCT THREE IN THE AMOUNT OF $186,000.

JUDGE, HE ASKED THAT I THAT I TABLE THAT ITEM FOR HIM.

OKAY.

HE ASKED THAT IT'D BE TABLED.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

UH, IS THERE A MOTION TO TABLE ITEM NINE? I'LL MAKE IT MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND.

SECOND.

COMMISSIONER HUNT.

DISCUSSION.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

OPPOS? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

UH,

[10. Bobby Bridges; Present updates on Animal Shelter, Justice Center, and all new construction projects in Kaufman County.]

ITEM 10, BOBBY BRIDGES PRESENT UPDATES ON ANIMAL SHELTER, JUSTICE CENTER, AND NEW CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS IN KAUFMAN COUNTY.

GOOD MORNING.

GOOD WORK.

HOW ARE Y'ALL TODAY? GOOD.

SO MR. GREG'S HERE WITH, UH, GALLAGHER TO KIND OF GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE ANIMAL SHELTER AND THE ISSUES THAT THEY'VE, THEY'RE WORKING ON.

SO I'LL LET HIM GIVE AN UPDATE.

GOOD MORNING.

MORNING.

UH, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE DONE IN REGARDS TO THE PLUMBING ISSUE THAT WE'VE ENCOUNTERED OUT THERE IS ARISEN IS WE HAD A BEATING LAST WEEK WITH THE ARCHITECT, THE DESIGN FIRM AND THE GEOTECH GEOTECH FIRM THAT DID THE ORIGINAL SOIL ANALYSIS FOR THE BUILDING.

UM, PRIOR TO THAT, UH, WHEN THE ISSUE FIRST ARRIVED, THE PLUMBING CONTRACTOR HAD THE MANUFACTURER OF THE VOID SYSTEM THAT WAS INSTALLED UNDERNEATH THE PLUMBING COME OUT AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

THEY SENT A REPORT BACK, I SENT IT TO BOBBY YESTERDAY AFTERNOON, UH, FOR HIS INFORMATION.

AND BASICALLY THEIR REPORT SAYS IT APPEARS THE SYSTEM IS ALL INSTALLED CORRECTLY AND THEY'RE QUESTIONING THAT THERE'S SOME OTHER UNDERLYING CONDITIONS, POSSIBLY AS EXCESS DRAINAGE, ET CETERA, THAT MAY BE ENCOUNTERING UNDER THE BUILDING THAT COULD BE POTENTIALLY CAUSING THE PROBLEM.

THAT'S KIND OF A QUICK SUMMARY OF IT.

UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE LOOKED AT LAST WEEK WITH THE FIRM THAT CAME OUT ON SITE IS LOOKING AT DOING SOME TEST BOARDS ON THE FRONT END OF THE BUILDING.

CUZ ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, THE ROOF DRAINS OUT OF THE, UH, LAMPS DIRECTLY BESIDE THE BUILDING, THE BACKSIDE OF THE BUILDING.

IT ALL GOES INTO STORM DRAINS OR FURTHER AWAY.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT DOING IS NEXT WEEK IS DO A COUPLE OF TEST BOARDS BY THE BUILDING TO SEE WHAT THE MOISTURE CONDITION IS RIGHT BY THE BUILDING.

POSSIBLY IF IT'S A WARRANTS PUTTING A SUB SOIL DRAINAGE PUMP, SOME PUMP OR SOMETHING THERE.

IF THAT'S THE CASE, TO LOOK AT TURNING THE PIPES BECAUSE OF THE POSITIVE DRAINAGE AWAY FROM THE BUILDING AND THE GROUND CONTOUR, POSSIBLY RUNNING THE DRAINAGE FARTHER OUT AWAY FROM THE BUILDING IF THAT'S DETERMINED TO BE THE ISSUE.

SO LIKE I SAID, WE'VE, WE'VE MET, WE'VE LOOKED AT, WE DON'T HAVE FIRM ANSWERS, BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT SOME OPTIONS, UH, OR, OR POSSIBILITIES.

THE UH, OTHER THING IS WE'RE GONNA DO IS ALSO THE PLUMBER NEXT WEEK WE'RE GONNA COORDINATE WITH THE PET CENTER STAFF TO, UH, PRESSURE TEST SOME OF THE LINES OR TEST THE LINES TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO LEAKAGE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

BUT WE JUST GOTTA DO THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE THERE EVEN ON THE WEEKENDS CLEANING AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO IT LOOKED LIKE WE'LL PROBABLY DO IT LATE ONE EVENING TO BE ABLE TO DO SOME OF THAT INVESTIGATIVE WORK.

AS FAR AS DRAINAGE AND STUFF GOES, I WOULD ASSUME THAT SINCE WE'RE IN A PRETTY STABLE TIME OF MOISTURE CONTENT IN THE SOIL, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GONNA BE DRY NOW FOR A FEW MONTHS.

YEAH.

I WOULD THINK MAYBE THE SITUATION WILL BE KIND OF STABLE FOR A WHILE, WHO KNOWS?

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SEEMS TO MAKE SENSE.

YEAH, I MEAN IT SEEMS TO MAKE SENSE.

DON'T, LIKE I SAID, DON'T REALLY HAVE AN ANSWER.

BUT ONE THING WE DID NOTICE, UM, WHEN WE WALKED IT FRIDAY AND EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, KIND OF CONCURRED IS A LARGE SECTION OF THE ROOF DRAINS ACTUALLY RIGHT ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING RIGHT OFF ONTO SPLASH BLOCKS.

AND OF COURSE WITH THE DRY CONDITIONS WE'VE HAD AND THE MOISTURE GOES STRAIGHT TO THE CRACKS IS WHAT THE REPORT FROM THE VOID SYSTEM.

YEAH.

SAID.

SO, LIKE I SAID, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AS THE POSSIBLE CON REASON.

BUT I DON'T, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOTHING DEFINITIVE YET.

OKAY.

SO, WELL I JUST, I JUST FEEL STRONGLY THAT WE HAVE A WINDOW OH ABSOLUTELY.

TO ATTEMPT TO TRY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

YEAH.

AND, AND DUE TO ANY KIND OF THINGS WE HAVE TO RECTIFY THE PROBLEM.

YEAH.

NOW VERSUS LIVING WITH SOMETHING FOR 50 YEARS.

RIGHT.

SO WELL AND ALL AND OUR, YOU KNOW, CONSENSUS IS OF OUR MEETING LAST WEEK WAS EVERYBODY WAS REALLY SURPRISED CUZ IT'S JUST, I MEAN THAT WHOLE SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, IN REGARDS TO THE BUILDING ITSELF, THERE'S NO EVIDENCE CUZ THAT WHOLE SYSTEM IS ON 18 INCH VOID SYSTEMS ON THE STRUCTURE ITSELF.

THERE'S NO EVIDENCE OF THE BUILDING ANY MOVEMENT OR ANY, ANYTHING LIKE MOVING OF THE BUILDING THAT SUCH.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

IT'S JUST MOVING THE ACTUAL PIPES UNDERNEATH IT.

YEAH.

AND WHY IS THE QUESTION, YOU KNOW, THE SY THE VOICE SYSTEM THAT WAS PUT UNDER IT HAS, HAS DESIGNED IS FOR THAT.

RIGHT.

SO YOU IF IT'S GONNA MOVE, I DON'T THINK ON IT YEAH.

IT'S NOT THE SAME.

RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I APPRECIATE YOU MOVING FORWARD TO TRY TO GET IT RECTIFIED.

YEAH.

CAUSE I THINK THIS IS A BIG, OR AT LEAST IN MY MIND, IT'S A PRETTY BIG DEAL.

NO.

SO WE, WE AGREE, WE AGREE.

I MEAN, I KNOW IT JUST TOOK, SORRY, IT TOOK A LITTLE TIME TO KINDA GET ALL THE PARTS AND PIECES TO GET THE INITIAL REPORT BACK FROM THE BOARD COMPANY AND PLUS WE WANTED TO LOOK AT IT AND GET, YOU KNOW, THE PARTIES INVOLVED THAT REALLY, YOU KNOW, DESIGNED THE BUILDING.

RIGHT.

AND WE HAD BOTH, UH, KIM AND DAVID FROM CORMER OUT LAST WEEK ALONG WITH ALPHA THE GEOTECH FIRM.

YEAH.

AND CONSENSUS WAS, WAS EVERYBODY WAS KIND OF SURPRISED IF WE'D HAVE BUILT IT, IF WE'VE BUILT IT IN ARIZONA, WE WOULDN'T BE HAVING THIS PROBLEM WOULD WE? TRUE.

WELL I UNDERSTAND IT WHEN A CONTRACTOR, THEY GET PRETTY APPREHENSIVE WHENEVER YOU START ASKING QUESTIONS.

OH, RIGHT.

EITHER.

YEAH.

IT'S LIKE, WELL THE MANUFACTURER, YOU COULD IMAGINE HIS YES.

I MEAN, AS I SAID, BOBBY HAS THE REPORT, IT'S KINDA LIKE, HEY, IT'S ALL CORRECT.

EVERYBODY'S GOT THE, YOU KNOW, THE IF Y'ALL NEED TO LOOK, NEED TO LOOK OVER HERE, BUT, AND I'M NOT SAYING WHAT'S RIGHT OR WRONG, I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S THAT'S RIGHT.

BUT WE DID, LIKE I SAID, WE'LL NEXT WEEK WE'RE GONNA START SOME OF THE INVESTIGATIVE WORK, MORE OF IT.

AND UH, THAT'S GONNA TELL US A LOT.

BUT I THINK WE PRETTY MUCH CONCLUDED WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT TURNING THOSE DRAINS AND HAVE TO TURN 'EM DOWN, GET 'EM UNDERGROUND AND TAKE 'EM OUT BECAUSE THERE'S A PRETTY GOOD DROP THERE TO THE DRAINAGE SW IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING OUT TOWARD THE RIGHT OF WAY.

AND AT LEAST GET THAT OUT TO WHERE WE ELIMINATE THAT.

CAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY THE GEOTECH FIRM REFERENCED ABOUT MAKING SURE ANY SHEET WATER DRAINAGE IS X AMOUNT OF DISTANCE FROM THE BUILDING.

I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT IT SAID.

WHAT HOLDS THE WATER UP THERE, HUH? I MEAN, WHAT HOLDS THE WATER UP THERE? CAUSE THE WHOLE FRONT OF THE BUILDING GOES DOWNHILL RIGHT IN FRONT OF IT.

YEAH.

BUT AS HE SAID IN THAT REPORT, WHEN WE'VE HAD THE DRY CONDITIONS, ANY RAIN WITH THOSE CRACKS IS GONNA HIT, HIT THE FIRST, FIRST, FIRST BACK IS HIT, HIT THE FIRST SPOT.

YEAH.

I MEAN THE GROUND, THE GROUND OUT THERE IS, IS WHAT IT IS.

WE ALL, EVERYBODY KNOWS HOW IT IS, SO YEAH.

AFRAID WE DO.

UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR GREG? NO.

UH, OKAY THEN.

BOBBY? YES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU GREG.

THANK YOU GREG.

SO THE SHERIFF'S SUBSTATION IS, UH, KIND OF, THEY'RE STILL TRYING TO DRILL PI, BUT IT'S BEEN SO WET AND MUDDY THAT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET OUT THERE.

I THINK GREG, GREG AND I SPOKE THIS MORNING.

YOU SAID YOU'RE LOOKING AT FRIDAY OR MONDAY GETTING A TRACK.

THEY, WE FINALLY, THEY FINALLY LOCATED A TRACK RIG.

THEY TRIED YESTERDAY.

CHUCK'S GOT STUCK, THE DRILLING RIG.

SO THEY LOCATED A TRACK RIG.

THEY'VE BEEN HAD EVERYBODY'S MERCY CUZ EVERYBODY'S BEHIND BECAUSE OF THE RAINS.

SO, UH, THEY'RE PREPARED TO EITHER START, HOPEFULLY MONDAY, START ACTUALLY DRILLING.

SO THAT'LL GET, UH, BEFORE YOU LEAVE THE SHERIFF'S SUBSTATION.

GOOD TIME TO MENTION THAT.

UH, DONNA IS WORKING UP A, UH, A GROUNDBREAKING WITH SCHOOL DISTRICT AND SHERIFF EVERYBODY ELSE ON DECEMBER THE SIXTH.

YOU'LL GET MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT LATER.

BUT DECEMBER 6TH BE A GOOD DAY.

YES, SIR.

UM, I FEEL LIKE THE, UH, THE RIBBON CUTTING WENT REALLY WELL THE OTHER DAY.

YEAH.

A LOT OF PEOPLE PITCHED IN.

YEP.

A LOT OF PEOPLE WORKED.

I LIKE TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO MY GUYS.

MY GUYS WORKED THEIR TAIL OFF ON GETTING THAT SET UP AND CLEANED UP AFTERWARDS.

SO, UM, GREAT JOB BY MY GUYS WITH FACILITIES.

UM, OTHER THAN THAT, THAT'S ALL WE GOT.

UM, MAKE SURE I HAVE NO QUESTIONS, UH, BEFORE WE LEAVE THE RIBBON CUTTING THING.

I, ANY CHANCE I GET, I ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, WE ASK, UH, DONNA ASK PUT OUT TO ALL THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO, TO PARTICIPATE AND, UH, WE DID GET PARTICIPATION FROM TWO DISTRICTS.

YES.

UH, TERRELL BROUGHT THEIR HIGH SCHOOL CHOIR, SANG THE NATIONAL ANTHEM, DID A GREAT JOB.

UH, I WILL TELL YOU THAT THEY WENT INSIDE BECAUSE IT WAS COLD OUTSIDE AND THEY ASKED IF THEY COULD GO IN AND SO DONNA TOOK 'EM IN AND LET THEM SIT IN THE COURTROOM.

AND WHEN THE

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TEACHER WENT IN THERE LATER, THEY WERE IN THERE HAVING A MURDER TRIAL.

, WHICH, SO THAT'S THE FIRST TRIAL THAT'S HELD IN THE JUSTICE CENTER WAS BY THE TE HIGH SCHOOL CHOIR.

AND, UM, BUT KEMP MAN, THEY, THEY JUST REALLY STEPPED UP.

I MEAN, THEY, THEY BROUGHT THE BAND, THE DRILL TEAM, THE CHEERLEADERS, THE RADIO STATION, THEY'D COOK, THEY MADE THE COOKIES.

THEY, I MEAN IT WAS REALLY A GREAT, GREAT TURNOUT BY CAMP AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

I DO AGREE WITH THAT.

UH, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU IS THE, DO YOU HAVE A PLAN WORKING FOR SIGNAGE? YES, SIR.

WE'RE ON THAT RIGHT NOW.

UM, ABOUT OUR PLAN IS TO HAVE SIGNAGE SET UP ON THE FOUR BUMP OUTS AROUND THE COURTHOUSE TO HAVE EVERYBODY DIRECTED TO THE NEW JUSTICE CENTER.

UM, WE'RE KIND OF HESITANT ABOUT PUTTING IT OUT YET, UM, BECAUSE OF, WE DON'T HAVE A DATE ON THE JAIL COMMISSION.

MM-HMM.

ON WHEN THEY'RE GONNA COME OUT AND DO THE INSPECTION.

YEAH.

WE'RE STILL SHOOTING FOR THE 19TH.

WE'RE GONNA START TRYING TO MOVE ON THE 19TH.

WELL, YOU GOTTA GET THE DATE SET, OBVIOUSLY BEFORE YOU, YOU GOTTA HAVE SOMETHING PUT ON THE SIGN, BUT CORRECT.

THERE'LL BE A MILLION PEOPLE SHOWING UP HERE TO GO TO THE COURTHOUSE.

YES, SIR.

UM, ONE THING THAT I'M TRYING TO DO, JUDGE, IS IN COURT, IS I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S A WAY FOR US TO START MOVING SOME OF THE FILES FROM LAURA'S OFFICE WITH, UH, SOUTHWEST SOLUTIONS, MOVING THAT STUFF OVER MAYBE THE START OF DECEMBER THAT GETS A HEAD START ON GETTING ALL THAT STUFF OUT OF THERE AND INTO THE, THE NEW JUSTICE CENTER.

BUT ONE OF THE CONCERNS WAS, WAS THAT WE DON'T HAVE, THE INSURANCE ISN'T IN OUR NAME, IT'S IN, UH, GALLAGHER'S NAME AT THIS TIME.

AND I, I DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT THEY WANT TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT.

UH, LET ME, UM, WE DID TALK ABOUT THAT LAST WEEK.

YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE BUILDING'S LOCKED UP EVERY NIGHT, YOU KNOW, THE ROOMS ARE LOCKED.

UM, BEING THAT THE, I NEED TO VERIFY WITH OUR OFFICE HOW THE INSURANCE POLICIES YOU SEE IS WRITTEN AND HOW THAT WOULD WORK.

OKAY.

OUR CONCERN IS, IS COUNTY RECORDS BEING MOVED IN, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S DIFFERENT THAN A PIECE OF FURNITURE TYPE SCENARIO.

SO LET, LET ME, LET ME CONVERSE WITH OUR OFFICE TO KIND VISIT THAT BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING, NOTHING IMPEDING AS FAR AS ROOMS ARE READY.

A POLICE SOUTHWEST SOLUTION HAS ALL THE SHELVING AND EVERYTHING READY THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO PUT IN.

UH, THE COUNTY TOOK CARE OF ALL THAT.

BUT LET ME, LET ME CONFIRM THAT TO WHERE IF WE CAN COORDINATE THAT, THEN THAT'S, THERE'S NO ISSUE WITH IT.

THE BUILDING'S READY.

SO, BUT WE MIGHT TALK TO OUR TECH INSURANCE TOO AND SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO TO HELP SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

YEAH.

BUT YOU KNOW, SO THERE, THERE'S STILL A BUNCH OF SHELVING IN, IN LAURA HUGHES BASEMENT AREA THAT HAS TO BE MOVED OVER TO THE JUSTICE CENTER WHERE THE, THE FILES THAT ARE ON THERE HAVE TO BE MOVED FIRST BEFORE WE CAN MOVE THAT OVER.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON WHY I'M, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET SOUTHWEST TO MOVE THAT STUFF OVER START OF DECEMBER.

THAT WAY WE CAN ACCESS THE SHELVING, WE CAN TEAR IT APART, WE CAN GET IT MOVED OVER AND GET IT SET UP BEFORE THE 19TH.

SO, OR DURING THAT PERIOD OR DURING THAT SAME PERIOD, TWO WEEKS.

LET ME JUST, LET ME CONVERSE WITH LISA ON THAT AND KIND OF GET CONFIRMATION WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED FROM THE COUNTY AS FAR AS THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN.

A WAIVER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YEAH, WELL IT LOOKS LIKE LOOK LIKE HE HAS RIGHT SOLUTION.

JUST TALK TACK.

I MEAN THEY MIGHT BE INSURED BY US, PERIOD.

WHETHER WE MOVE THEM OVER THERE OR NOT, NOT BY YOU.

THAT'D JUST BE A SIMPLE, A SIMPLE CALL AND A SIMPLE QUESTION.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW, SO WE MIGHT, MIGHT AVOID EVERYTHING.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MM-HMM.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU OFFICER SIR.

APPRECIATE.

OKAY, THEN MOVE ON TO ITEM 12.

[11. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider exiting regular meeting and enter a public hearing. ]

YEAH.

I'M SORRY ADAM 11.

DISCUSS, CONSIDER EXITING REGULAR MEETING AND ENTERING INTO A PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE A MOTION TO DO SO? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

WE HAVE MOTION.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

SECOND.

SECOND.

SECOND.

COMMISSIONER KATE'S DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR OF SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

UHHUH.

OPPOS? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

[12. Public Hearing; To receive input on a professional services contract with Linebarger Goggan Blair and Sampson LLP regarding the collection of delinquent property taxes, penalties and interest as authorized under §6.30 of the Texas Property Tax Code, authorizing the addition of an additional penalty as authorized by §§33.07,33.08 and 33.11 of the Texas Property Tax Code, and authorizing the entry into and execution of a contract for said services. ]

WE ARE IN A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE INPUT ON PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT WITH LINEBARGER GO AND BLAIR IN SAMPSON, L P REGARDING THE COLLECTION OF DELINQUENT PROPERTY TAXES, PENALTIES, AND INTEREST AS AUTHORIZED UNDER 6.30 OF THE TEXAS PROPERTY TAX CODE, AUTHORIZING THE ADDITION OF ANY ADDITIONAL PENALTY AS AUTHORIZED BY 33.07 AND 33.08 AND 33.11 OF THE TEXAS PROPERTY CODE AND AUTHORIZING THE ENTRY INTO AN EXECUTION OF CONTRACT FOR SAID SERVICES.

WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES A LINEBARGER HERE AND IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND SOMEBODY, UH, JUST KIND OF TELL US, UH, WHAT THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS ABOUT AND THEN WE'LL SEEK PUBLIC COMMENT.

THANK YOU JUDGE.

COMMISSIONERS.

UM, SO THIS IS, UH, WE'RE OFFERING A NEW CONTRACT FOR THE COUNTY FOR THE DELINQUENT TAX COLLECTIONS.

THE PREVIOUS CONTRACT, THE ONE WE'RE CURRENTLY OPERATING UNDER, WAS EXECUTED, I WANNA SAY ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO.

THERE'S BEEN SOME LEGISLATIVE UPDATES AND CHANGES THAT HAVE NECESSITATED THE AMENDMENT OF SOME OF THE LANGUAGE IN OUR STANDARD COLLECTIONS

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CONTRACT.

SO WE BROUGHT A PROPOSED NEW CONTRACT THAT I'VE SUBMITTED TO THE, THE, UH, COURT'S ATTORNEYS, UH, FOR REVIEW.

WE, WE ARE HERE AND HAVE, UH, BEEN HONORED TO REPRESENT KAUFMAN COUNTY FOR ABOUT 37 YEARS IN THE COLLECTION OF THE DELINQUENT PROPERTY TAXES.

WE WOULD LOVE TO CONTINUE THAT RELATIONSHIP AND HOPEFULLY THE COUNTY SATISFIED WITH THE WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN PROVIDED.

UM, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT IT'S A FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD CONTRACT.

THE FEES FOR OUR SERVICES ARE NOT, UH, MADE AT ANY COST AT ALL TO THE COUNTY OR ANY OF THE OTHER COLLECTION ENTITIES.

UH, THE, THE FEES ARE LEGISLATIVELY CREATED AND ARE PAID BY THE DELINQUENT TAXPAYERS AS THEY, UH, PAY THEIR, THEIR TAXES OR AS THE PROPERTIES ARE DISPOSED OF, UH, THROUGH THE, THE PROCESS.

SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR, OR CLARIFY IF THERE'S ANY NEED, BUT, UH, THAT'S THE REQUEST.

ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH WADE.

OKAY, SO WE'RE IN THIS PUBLIC HEARING AND IS THERE ANYONE WITH US WHO WOULD CARE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THIS PROPOSED ACTION OF THE COURT? I DON'T SEE ANYBODY OUT THERE.

WOULD ANYONE HERE CARE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS PROPOSED ACTION OF THE COURT? WELL, NO

[13. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider exiting public hearing and enter back into regular meeting. ]

ONE COMING FORWARD DISCUSSING, CONSIDER, UH, EXITING THIS PUBLIC HEARING AND GOING INTO REGULAR MEETING.

IS THERE A MOTION TO DO SO? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

WE HAVE THE MOTION.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

IS THERE A SECOND? NO, SECOND.

SECOND.

COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR OF SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

I OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

[14. Wade Gent; Discuss/Consider and take action on a professional services contract with Linebarger Goggan Blair and Sampson LLP regarding the collection of delinquent property taxes, penalties and interest as authorized under §6.30 of the Texas Property Tax Code, authorizing the addition of an additional penalty as authorized by §§33.07,33.08 and 33.11 of the Texas Property Tax Code, and authorizing the entry into and execution of a contract for said services. ]

SO PART OF THAT ITEM IS A DISCUSSION CONSIDER TAKING ACTION.

SO IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT CONTRACT AS PRESENTED? I'LL MAKE A MOTION WITH THE MOTION.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

SECOND.

COMMISSIONER KATE'S DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM

[15. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider the Commissioner's Court meeting date of November 29, 2022. ]

15.

THANK YOU.

UH, DISCUSS.

CONSIDER COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING DATE OF NOVEMBER 29TH, 2022 AS SINCE WE'RE CLOSING TOMORROW AT THREE O'CLOCK.

AS OF THIS MORNING, WE DON'T, WE ONLY HAVE TWO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.

NONE OF WHICH ARE URGENT.

SO MY, MY SUGGESTION AND I WILL PUT THIS IN THE FORM OF MOTION IS THAT WE DON'T MEET ON NOVEMBER 29TH.

I'LL, THAT'S MY MOTION.

AND THERE'S A SECOND.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

IS THERE A SECOND? I MEAN, UH, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

OPPOS? NO.

THAT MOTION CARRIES

[16. Auditor; Discuss/Consider line-item and budget transfers/corrections. ]

NOW TO THE AUDITOR, DISCUSS, CONSIDER LINE, ITEM AND BUDGET TRANSFERS.

CORRECTIONS.

GOOD MORNING JUDGE.

AND COMMISSIONERS.

RIGHT.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THESE LINE ITEM TRANSFERS AND BUDGET AMENDMENTS THAT WERE SENT TO YOU LAST WEEK? NO MA'AM.

THEN IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE LINE ITEM TRANSFERS AS PRESENTED? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

SECOND.

COMMISSIONER KATE.

DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? NO.

THAT MOTION CARRIES

[17. Auditor; Discuss/Consider claims for payment and/or Financial Information as provided by the County Auditor. ]

ITEM 17, BACK TO THE AUDITOR DISCUSSING CONSIDER CLAIMS FOR PAYMENTS AND OR FINANCIAL INFORMATION.

YOUR CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT ARE 1,000,300 $75,547 AND 73 CENTS.

WE HAD, UH, TWO ELECTION PAYROLLS THAT WENT OUT OF $122,567 AND 59 CENTS.

A TOTAL PAYOUT OF 1,000,490 $8,115 AND 32 CENTS.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS FOR THE AUDITORS OR A MOTION TO APPROVE CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT IS PRESENTED.

SO MOVED.

WE HAVE THAT MOTION.

COMMISSIONER KATE IS THERE SECOND? I.

SECOND.

SECOND.

COMMISSIONER HUNT.

DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

OPPOS? NO, THANK YOU.

THAT MOTION CARRIES.

I'LL

[18. Adjourn Meeting ]

MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.

COMMISSIONER PHIS MOS WHO ADJOURN IS THERE.

SECOND.

SECOND, SECOND.

COMMISSIONER KATE'S DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY THE SAYING.

AYE.

AYE.

OPPOS? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES SO.