Dec 13, 2022 Commissioners Court

COMMISSIONER KATES DISCUSSION.

OPPOS? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

NEXT UP.

SUSAN GOIG, UH, SHE'S, UH, WITH THE HUMANE SOCIETY OF NORTH TEXAS, THE MANAGEMENT ORGANIZATION FOR THE PET ADOPTION CENTER.

AND SHE HAS A PRESENTATION FOR US THIS MORNING.

IT WORKED.

SUSAN CAME TO US.

UH, SHE, SUSAN, SUSAN WORKED.

SUSAN FLED FROM TARRANT COUNTY THIS MORNING.

, GET AHEAD OF THE, UH, GET, GET AHEAD OF THE STORM.

ANYWAY, THERE, THERE'S SOMETHING.

MINE'S NOT WORKING.

THERE YOU GO.

WELL, IT'S GOTTA BE YOUR PLUG OF YOUR, BECAUSE WHEN YOU WIGGLE IT, IT, THAT'S WHEN IT SEEMS TO HAPPEN OVER THERE.

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YEP.

IT BLINKED OFF AND ON.

I DON'T, I DON'T EVEN KNOW YOU , WHILE YOU'RE WORKING ON THAT.

UH, THAT'S OKAY.

UH, SO WHY DON'T WE MOVE ON

[5. Chuck Mohnkern; Present/Accept the Treasurer's monthly report for the month of November 2022. ]

DOWN TO ITEM FIVE.

UH, THAT CHUCK CAN COME UP HERE.

CAN YOU COME UP AND DELIVER YOUR REPORT AND, UH, YOU CAN KIND OF STAND OFF TO THE SIDE THERE WHILE SHE WORKS ON HER TECHNOLOGY'S.

YOU GOT A GOOD RADIO, LOUD VOICE.

WE CAN ALL HEAR YOU .

GOOD MORNING, JUDGE FISHER.

WOO.

WE STARTED THE, UH, MONTH OF, UH, NOVEMBER WITH 12, UH, FUND 10 RECEIPTS OF FIVE 48 MILLION DISBURSEMENTS OF SEVEN 48 MILLION, ENDING BALANCE 10.5 MILLION.

WE EARNED $3,260 ON OUR BALANCE IN AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK, 300,000, $22 ON OUR INVESTMENTS IN TAX, POOL AND TEXAS CLASS.

THE, UH, TOTAL INVESTED IN TAX POOL, $31,395,627.

TOTAL INVESTED IN TEXAS CLASS $60,839,060.

AND WE HAVE TOTAL COUNTING FILES IN AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK.

AS OF THE END OF THE MONTH, 56 MILLION VALUE OF PLEDGE SECURITIES, 200,563,000.

SO VERY WELL COLLATERALIZED BY AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK.

UH, PERCENTAGE OF OUR, UH, CASH INVESTED IS 62%.

PERCENTAGE IN THE BANK IS 38%.

WE WROTE 361 RECEIPTS DURING THE MONTH FOR 600 270 $9,004.

AND ALSO WE PASSED A MILESTONE DURING THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER.

WE PASSED THE 1.5 MILLION IN THE EARNINGS, UM, MILESTONE ON TEXAS POOL AND TEXAS CLASS ON WHAT WE HAVE INVESTED THERE.

QUESTIONS? NO, IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS FOR THE TREASURER, IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE TREASURER'S MONTHLY REPORT AS PRESENTED? I'LL MAKE IT ONE.

WE HAVE THAT MOTION.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

COMMISSIONER BARBER DISCUSSION.

HELLO, MY NAME IS SUSAN GOIG.

UH, DID YOU GET YOURS GOING THERE, SUSAN? YEAH.

DID.

UP FAIR.

[3. Susan Gulig; Presentation on Kaufman County Pet Adoption Center.]

I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE HUMAN SOCIETY NORTH TEXAS.

THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME, UH, SPEAK THIS MORNING.

I WANT GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE OPERATIONS COUNTY ADOPTION CENTER SINCE WE BEGAN OPERATING THE FACILITY IN MARCH.

AND, UH, UP THROUGH NOVEMBER, I'LL ALSO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE ANIMAL WELFARE FIELD IN GENERAL.

FIRST, WE'LL START WITH THE STATE OF ANIMAL WELFARE.

YOU MAY HAVE SEEN REPORTS ABOUT OVERCROWDING AND SHELTERS THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES.

THE POST COVID WORLD FOR ANIMAL SHELTERS HAS BEEN VERY CHALLENGING.

WAR PETS, HENRY SHELTERS THAT ARE LEAVING THE PROBLEM IS MOST SIGNIFICANT FOR LARGE DOGS.

LAST NIGHT ON THE LOCAL NEWS, THERE WAS A STORY ABOUT DAN DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES PAYING PEOPLE $150 TO ADOPT FOR FOSTER LARGE DOGS.

ACROSS THE BOARD, THERE'S SOME COMMON THEMES FOR MAKING IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR AND SHELTERS MANY PEOPLE CAN NO LONGER AFFORD TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR PETS.

IN ADDITION, FEWER PEOPLE ARE ADOPTING AS THEY RETURN TO THEIR OFFICE.

THERE'S A NATIONAL SITE CALLED SHELTER ANIMALS.ORG.

SHELTER ANIMALS COUNT ORG THAT ESTIMATES THAT SHELTER INTAKES NATIONWIDE ARE OUTPACING OUTCOMES BY 7%.

THIS MEANS TRANSPORT PROGRAMS ARE SEVERELY DECLINED AS SHELTERS IN THE NORTH.

YOU NO LONGER ACCEPT PETS COMING UP FROM THE SOUTH.

UH, WE'RE NOT GETTING THIS ON OUR SCREEN.

I'M GONNA SEE, CAN I, CAN YOU TURN THAT SCREEN SO IT'LL FACE US OVER HERE? WELL, IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT.

NO.

HERE IT IS.

THAT'S SO WAIT.

SO WELL, THAT'S HARD.

NOW WE CAN SEE IT THERE.

NO.

YEAH, BUT I MEANT THERE STOP, STOP MOVING.

NO, CONTINUE ON.

IT'S ON OUR SCREEN NOW.

THAT'S NOW IT'S ON OUR SCREEN.

THERE YOU GO.

PERFECT.

NO, I WE'RE, SOMETHING IS, THERE GOES.

PETS WERE STAYING LONGER IN SHELTER.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S CALLED.

THERE'S A LOOSE WIRE SOMEWHERE.

THIS IS SOMETHING GOOD WORK HERE.

SO IT'S, UM, THE NATIONAL SITE SHELF FOR ANIMALS COUNT.ORG ESTIMATES THAT INTAKES NATIONALLY ARE OUTPACING OUTCOMES BY 7%.

AND THAT MEANS THAT THEY'RE LOWER, FEWER TRANSPORTS, WHICH HAS BEEN A REAL HELP FOR US, PARTICULARLY IN MOVING ANIMALS FROM THE SOUTH TO THE NORTH.

RESULT OF THIS IS THAT

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EUTH RATES ARE INCREASING.

THERE WAS AN ARTICLE ON DALLAS MORNING NEWS LAST MONTH THAT INDICATED THE DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES STARTED EUTHANIZING IN PETRA'S, INCREASED EUTHANIZING PETS.

THEIR LIVE RELEASE RATE, WHICH IS THE NUMBER OF LIVE OUTCOMES COMPARED TO ALL OUTCOMES, UH, DROPPED FROM 89% IN OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR TO 73% THIS YEAR.

AND THE PROBLEM ALSO EXISTS IN FORT WORTH.

FORT WORTH ANIMAL CONTROLS LIVE RELEASE RATE IS 87% DOWN FROM 98%.

STAFFING SHORTAGES ARE ALSO VERY PREVALENT IN ANIMAL WELFARE, UH, ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

AND MANY SHELTERS ARE HAVING DIFFICULTY EVEN JUST FINDING A VETERINARIAN TO WORK WITH THEIR PETS.

NOW LET'S DISCUSS THE ISSUE.

STATES SEEING H S AND T IN THE KAUFMAN COUNTY PET OPTION CENTER.

LIKE OTHER SHELTERS, WE HAVE AN OVERSUPPLY OF LARGE DOGS.

AND YOU MAY THINK LARGE DOG IS LIKE A ST.

BERNARD, BUT REALLY IT'S A DOG THAT'S 30 POUNDS FOR MORE, BECAUSE EVERYBODY WANTS PUPPIES AND LIKE CHIHUAHUA, SMALL DOGS.

SO 30 POUNDS FOR MORE ARE THE ONES THAT STAY IN THE SHELTER THE LONGEST.

BECAUSE OF THIS, WE'VE HAD TO HAVE FREE ADOPTIONS FOR SEVERAL MONTHS THIS YEAR FOR LARGE DOGS.

AND THIS IS ACROSS THE BOARD, NOT JUST IN KAUFMAN COUNTY, BUT KAUFMAN COUNTY DOES SEEM TO HAVE A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF LARGER DOGS COMPARED TO OTHER SITES.

THE PET CENTER HAS ALSO BEEN AT CAPACITY SINCE MANY, SO, SO MANY PETS.

WE'VE HAD TO ADD THREE MORE STAFF TO TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING.

UM, AND THEN LIKE EVERY OTHER EMPLOYER, WE'VE HAD TO INCREASE OUR WAGES FOR THOSE STAFF MEMBERS, TWO TO $3 AN HOUR, WHICH HAS OBVIOUSLY IMPACT OUR PAYROLL COSTS.

THE COST OF ALL OF OUR SUPPLIES HAS ALSO GONE UP FROM EVERYTHING FROM FOOD TRAYS TO PERSONAL PROTECTION EQUIPMENT AND MEDIC, UH, MEDICAL TESTS.

THEY'VE ALL INCREASED SHARPLY.

NOW LET'S LOOK AT SOME OF THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION THAT WAS USED IN PLANNING FOR THE SHELTER.

PREVIOUSLY, THE COUNTY CONTRACTED WITH THE HUMANE SOCIETY OF CEDAR CREEK LAKE TO TAKE PETS FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

THIS SLIDE SHOWS THAT ACTUAL DOG INTAKES, UM, FROM 19 2017 TO 2019 INCREASED STEADILY FROM ABOUT 850 TO JUST OVER 900 PETS.

THE PROJECTION THAT WAS USED FOR 2022 WAS 1,054 DOGS FOR THE FULL YEAR.

NOW, WHAT WE'VE SEEN FROM MARCH TO NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR IS 894 DOGS HAS BEEN TRANSFERRED.

THAT'S A 13% INCREASE OVER WHAT WAS PROJECTED, UM, OF 790.

AND MOST OF THESE DOGS I SET HAVE BEEN, UH, LARGE ON OVER 30 POUNDS.

IF YOU TAKE THAT TO THE FULL YEAR, WE WOULD LOOK AT OVER, UH, ALMOST 1200 ANIMALS, 1200 DOGS COMING IN, UM, BY THE COUNTY COMPARED TO THE THOUSAND 54.

AGAIN, DISCIPLINE, HIGHER COST, AND MORE STAFF.

NOW LET'S LOOK AT THE OUTCOMES FOR THE DOGS.

UM, SINCE WE'VE, UH, OPENED THE FACILITY, AND THIS INCLUDES OFFICE EVENTS, NOT JUST THOSE COMING IN FROM THE COUNTY.

UH, WE'VE HAD ABOUT 140 OWNER SURRENDERS COMING IN.

SO FROM MARCH TO DECEMBER, WE'VE ADOPTED 395 DOGS.

WE'VE RETURNED 56 DOGS TO THEIR OWNERS, BUT THAT'S ONLY AT 6% RATE OF STRAY DOGS COMING IN AT THE COUNTY.

WE EXPECTED WHEN WE MODELED THIS, THAT WE WOULD HAVE FOUR DOGS COMING IN AND GOING RIGHT BACK OUT TO THEIR OWNERS.

UM, WE'D CHARGE A FEE FOR THAT, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, MOST OF THESE DOGS ARE NOT MICROCHIPS.

SO THERE'S NO OWNER FOR THESE 37 DOGS HAVE DIED AND RE EUTHANIZED.

THE MAIN REASON EUTHANIZING THE DOGS IS EITHER AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIOR OR THEY HAVE A MEDICAL ISSUE IF THEY GOT HIT BY A CAR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO BECAUSE THE PET ADOPTION CENTER HAS BEEN AT CAPACITY, WE'VE HAD TO TRANSFER DOGS, UM, ON OUR 500 DOGS FROM KAUFMAN COUNTY TO OTHER FACILITIES THAT WE OPERATE.

THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE ANTICIPATED.

UH, WE WERE THINKING THAT WE'D HAVE AN EQUAL OF SUPPLY AND DEMAND FOR PETS HERE.

LET'S PUT A STRAIN ON THE REST OF OUR FACILITIES.

AND THE OVERALL LENGTH OF STAY FOR DOGS AND ALL OF OUR FACILITIES HAS INCREASED FROM 44 DAYS TO 63 DAYS AT THE END OF NOVEMBER.

DESPITE ALL OF THESE CHALLENGES, I'M PROUD TO SAY THAT WE'VE MAINTAINED A 97% LIVE RELEASE RATE AND, YOU KNOW, COMPARED TO SOME OF THE OTHER, UH, LARGE SHELTERS THAT I DISCUSSED EARLIER.

BUT IT'S A STRUGGLE EVERY DAY TO FIND A PLACE TO PUT AN ANIMAL.

NOW LOOK AT SOME OF THE CONTRACTUAL, OH, NOW THIS IS THE, SORRY.

HERE'S THE HOW MANY ANIMALS WE HAD AT THE END OF NOVEMBER.

WE'VE HAD 121, UH, PETS ON HAND AND COFFEE.

YOU CAN SEE THE BREAKDOWN BY DOGS, CATS, AND SMALL ANIMALS, GENERALLY RABBITS AND, AND, UM, GUINEA PIGS.

SINCE THE FACILITY OPENED ON AVERAGE, WE'VE HAD ABOUT 80 DOGS AND 35 CATS AT THE FACILITY EACH MONTH.

UM, AND A HANDFUL OF SMALL ANIMALS.

BUT THE NUMBER HAS BEEN AS HIGH AS 184 PETS IN THE FACILITY ON

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AUGUST 24TH, WHICH TWO COULD GET 121 DOGS TO CAREFUL FOR THESE ADDITIONAL PETS.

AGAIN, WE'VE HAD TO HAVE SOME MORE STAFF.

NOW, WE'LL LOOK AT SOME OF THE FINANCIALS.

UH, THESE RESULTS ARE ONLY THROUGH OCTOBER.

CAUSE WE HAVEN'T CLOSED OUR BOOKS FOR NOVEMBER YET.

OUR OPTIONAL REVENUES OF 206,000 ARE 13% LOWER THAN BUDGET.

THE PRIMARY REASON FOR THIS IS THAT ADOPTION FEES ARE $25,000 LOWER THAN BUDGET.

AND AS I MENTIONED, IT'S BECAUSE WE'VE HAD TO HAVE FREE ADOPTIONS TO TRY AND MOVE, UH, LARGE DOCKS.

WE'VE HAD OVER 60 DOGS THAT WERE ADOPTED FREE OF THE FACILITY.

UM, BUT WE HAD TO REDUCE FEES AGAIN, ACROSS ALL OF OUR FACILITIES.

THAT'S NOT JUST UNIQUE TO COMPLEMENT COUNTY.

AND OUR FEES FOR RETURN TO OWNER AND OWNER SURRENDERS ARE OBVIOUSLY DOWN FROM BUDGET.

AND MOST OF THE PETS ARE NOT MICRO CHIPS.

SO AGAIN, THAT'S WHY WE'RE NOT RETURN TO THE NOW.

ON THE EXPENSE SIDE, OUR EXPENSES THROUGH OCTOBER ARE 426,000, WHICH IS 172,000 HIGHER THAN BUDGET.

THE PRIMARY DRIVER ON THIS IS HIGHER STAFF EXPENSES, WHICH ARE 82,000 OVER BUDGET.

AS I MENTIONED, WE'VE HAD TO HIRE THREE MORE STAFF, AND WE'RE PAYING ALL 10 OF THE STAFF AT THE FACILITY, TWO TO $3 AN HOUR.

AND MORE THAN BUDGET, LIKE EVERY OTHER ORGANIZATION, THE COST OF OUR SUPPLIES HAVE INCREASED.

PLUS, BECAUSE WE'VE DISCUSSED WE HAVE MORE PETS IN THE FACILITY, WHICH LEADS TO HIGHER COSTS.

OUR MENTAL COSTS ARE 30,000 OVER BUDGET.

MUCH OF THIS IS DUE TO HAVING TO TEST ANIMALS.

UM, AS YOU MAY HAVE HEARD, WE HAD DISTEMPER LAST YEAR.

WE ALSO HAVE DISTEMPER IN OUR MAIN SHELTER NOW.

BUT ONE OF THE DOGS THAT TESTED POSITIVE WAS FROM KAUFMAN COUNTY.

SO WE HAD TO TEST ALL THE ANIMAL RESPONSIBILITY AND THEIR A HUNDRED DOLLARS A TEST JUST TO MAKE SURE ALL THE DOGS AND WE TO MAKE SURE THEY DON'T HAVE IT.

AND DISTEMPER IS SOMETHING THAT IT WAS NOT PREVALENT IN THE PAST, BUT IN THE LAST YEAR, EVERY MAJOR SHELTER HAS HAD DISTEMPER.

AND SADLY, RIGHT NOW, MANY SHELTERS ARE ALSO HAVING CANINE INFLUENZA.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT.

BUT YOU HAVE TO RUN THESE TESTS TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A COMMUNICABLE DISEASE IN YOUR SHELTER.

OUR ANIMAL COSTS, OUR ANIMAL CARE COSTS ARE 35,000 MORE THAN EXPECTED DUE TO MORE ANIMALS.

AND THAT, AGAIN, HIGHER COSTS.

BASIC SUPPLIES, LIKE THINGS LIKE WE DO PAY FOR PAPER, FOOD TRAYS, AND, UM, LITTER, BOXEES AND DOG TREATS HAVE ALL INCREASED 50%.

IT'S JUST UNREAL.

UH, OVERALL, WE'VE HAD TO, WE'VE INCURRED A NET LOSS OF 220,000 OPERATING FACILITY, UM, THROUGH OCTOBER.

NOW, WE REVIEW SOME OF OUR ACTION PLANS FOR HOW TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE ISSUES.

FIRST, WE WANNA INCREASE ADOPTIONS OF THE FACILITY.

WE'RE INCREASING OUR ADVERTISING EXPENSES.

WE'VE ALREADY TO SPENT $4,000 AND WE'LL SPEND MORE.

WE'RE SHARING OUR INFORMATION WITH DONNA SO SHE CAN POST IT ON THE COUNTY AND, UH, COUNTY SITES.

WE'VE ALSO STARTED HOLDING ADOPTION EVENTS AT PETCO AND TERRILL, WHICH WE THINK IS GONNA BE GREAT.

WE HAVE PETS THAT ARE STAYING THERE 24 7.

AND THEN THIS WEEKEND WE'RE HOLDING A BIG EVENT AT, UM, THE PETCO AND TERRILL AND TWO OTHER PETCOS IN FORT WORTH AREA.

WE KNOW THAT EVERYONE SHOPPING THERE LOVES THEIR PETS, AND WE THINK THIS WILL BE A GREAT, UH, OUTLET FOR MORE PET ADOPTIONS.

UM, ANOTHER THING WE WANNA DO IS GROW OUR VOLUNTEER AND FOSTER BASE.

WE NEED TO GET THE WORD OUT IN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITIES AT THE SHELTER.

IF WE CAN BUILD A FOSTER BASE THAT WOULD BE TEMPORARILY TAKING A PET OUT OF THE SHELTER, WHICH WE, SOME OF THE PRESSURE PLUS PEOPLE GET TO KNOW THE PET MORE THESE DAYS.

EVERYONE'S POSTING TIKTOK VIDEOS AND INSTAGRAM VIDEOS, AND THEN THAT WAY YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE PET OUTSIDE OF A SHELTER ENVIRONMENT, WHICH HELPS WITHIN THE ADOPTION.

YEAH, WE HAD A FOSTER DOG FOR 14 YEARS.

FOSTER FAILS.

WE LOVE THOSE .

UH, WE WANNA EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ON SPAY AND NEUTER TO PREVENT UNWANTED LITTERS.

WE HAVE A PROGRAM THAT WE CALL SPAY AND NEUTER FOR FREE, OR THE ACRONYMS NIP, WHERE WE PROVIDE VOUCHERS FOR FREE SPAN SURGERIES TO LOCAL CLINICS.

THIS WILL HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY SLOW THE INTAKE OF PETS COMING INTO THE, UM, ADOPTION CENTER.

FINALLY, WANNA GET MORE OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND TELL EVERYONE ABOUT THE FACILITY.

UH, I THINK WE HAD ONE MEETING AT THE LIONS CLUB, BUT WE'RE OPEN TO VISITING ANY OTHER, UM, COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION.

WE WANNA GET MORE INVOLVEMENT WITH THE HIGH SCHOOLS.

UM, WE'VE GOT THE TER AV GROUP THAT COMES IN, BUT WE NEED TO START THE, UM, THERE'S VET TECH PROGRAMS AT A COUPLE OF THE HIGH SCHOOLS AND WE WANT TO GET THAT GOING.

AND ALSO MAYBE HOLD THINGS LIKE MICROCHIP CLINICS SO THAT WHEN ANIMAL NEEDS LOTS, WE CAN FIND THE, UM, THE BEHINDS AND WE WELCOME ANY FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY, HOW WE CAN DO BETTER AT THE FACILITY.

FINALLY, UH, I'M ASKING YOU THE COMMISSIONERS TO APPROVE $15,000 A MONTH INCREASE OVER OUR, UH, FEE TO OFFSET THE SHORTFALLS THAT I'VE JUST DISCUSSED.

I KNOW THIS IS A SIGN SIGNIFICANT REQUEST, BUT I, I'VE EXPLAINED THE PRESENT REASONS FOR THAT.

I'VE HAD TO MAKE A SIMILAR PRESENTATION AT THE, UM, CITY COUNCIL OF HEARST IN OCTOBER, REQUESTING TO DOUBLE OUR FEE THERE FOR ALL THE SAME REASONS,

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AND THAT WAS APPROVED.

I'M HAPPY, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

I'D LIKE TO FOLLOW UP WITH A CONVERSATION THAT YOU AND I HAD LAST WEEK.

GETTING UP ON THIS ONE OF THE THING.

AND, UH, THIS WILL ACTUALLY KIND OF FALL OVER INTO THE NEXT, NEXT AGENDA ITEM, WHICH IS TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER CREATING AN ANIMAL SERVICES BOARD.

BUT THESE TWO THINGS ARE REALLY SORT OF LINKED TOGETHER.

UM, ALL OF OUR, ALL OF OUR ORGANIZATIONS, YOU KNOW, THE CHILD WELFARE BOARD AND ALL THE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE SUPPORT ARE ALL, THEY ALL HAVE A BOARD THAT REALLY, THE BOARD, UH, ISS TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN PLACE WITH THIS OPERATION.

AND THE, THE AD THE ADVANTAGE, WHAT YOU SEE IN ALL OF THE OTHER BOARDS, THE, THOSE BOARDS, UH, OF COURSE THEY ESTABLISH BYLAWS IN A MISSION FOR THEM, FOR THE BOARD TO SUPPORT THE PET ADOPTION CENTER.

BUT YOU TALKED A LOT ABOUT COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND I THINK, UM, WE JUST, IF WE'RE GONNA INCREASE ADOPTIONS, UM, AND INCREASE COMMUNITY AWARENESS, WHAT WE TALKED, YOU TALKED ABOUT, I TOLD YOU THE OTHER DAY THAT EVERY COMMUNITY IN KAUFMAN COUNTY, AT LEAST EVERY COMMUNITY AT LEAST TWO OR THREE TIMES A YEAR, HAS SOME SORT OF A MAJOR EVENT, A FESTIVAL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

UM, AND WE HAVEN'T BEEN PRESENT AT THOSE THINGS.

AND, AND ONE OF THE REASONS THAT YOU TOLD ME IS THAT IT TAKES A LOT OF, IT TAKES A LOT OF PEOPLE TO PUT ONE OF THOSE THINGS ON.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IF WE COULD IN, IF THIS BOARD COULD REACH OUT AND AND INCREASE OUR, UM, THE VOLUNTEERISM, WE COULD SUPPORT DOING MORE EVENTS LIKE THAT.

AND I THINK THAT WOULD, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S A PIECE THAT WE'RE MISSING.

UM, AND THE OTHER THING THAT, THAT ALL OF THESE BOARDS DO, AND, AND I WOULD EXPECT IF, IF WE HAD A A, A BOARD FOR ANIMAL SERVICES, I WOULD EXPECT THAT THEY WOULD ALSO RAISE MONEY TO SUPPORT THINGS LIKE SPAY AND NEUTER, UH, SUPPORT.

RAISE MONEY FOR PEOPLE THAT GET THEMSELVES INTO A FINANCIAL CRUNCH.

AND THEY, I KNOW THAT, UH, PAUL HAS TOLD ME THAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE SAY THAT THEY'VE, THAT FIRST THEY GET INTO FINANCIAL DIFFICULTIES AND THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO FEED THEIR DOG.

UH, WE COULD, IF THE BOARD COULD HELP RAISE MONEY, UH, THROUGH EVENTS AND STUFF, THEY COULD DO THAT.

SO, UM, SO BACK TO YOU AND EVERY AND THE COMMISSIONERS TO ASK WHAT, WHAT YOU WERE ASKING US FOR IS AN ADDITIONAL $15,000 A MONTH FOR THE, FOR THE FIRST QUARTER.

THAT'S JUST QUARTER TWO, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE THE FIRST QUARTER, RIGHT? YEAH.

CAUSE WE'D BE AT THE FIRST QUARTER NOW, AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IF WE COULD CREATE THAT BOARD, THEY COULD REPORT BACK TO US AT THE END OF MARCH AS TO HOW WE'RE DOING, HOW WE'RE DOING WITH OUR EFFORTS.

SO BACK TO THE COMMISSIONERS THAT, I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP WITH THAT, CUZ THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THIS, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST WEEK.

UH, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.

UM, I'VE HAD A COUPLE PEOPLE TEXT ME JUST NOW.

I'VE BEEN ASKING THE QUESTION THAT, UH, ABOUT THE FREE SPAY AND NEUTERING.

HAVE WE OFFERED THAT HERE IN KAUFMAN COUNTY? WE HAVE, UH, YOU HAVE TO APPROACH US RIGHT NOW WE'RE RUNNING TWO THINGS.

WE'VE GOT A THING CALLED OPERATION PIT STOPS.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO, THIS WAS SPONSORED BY WINGS OF RESCUE AND NATIONAL AIR TRANSPORT GROUP AND VODKA AND, UM, THAT WE'LL GIVE VOUCHERS THAT ARE GOOD AT, UH, TEXAS COALITION, TCAP, TEXAS COALITION, PROTECTION AND SPAIN NETWORKS.

SO WRITING RANDALL, THERE'S NOT A LOCAL VETERINARIAN THAT'S DOING IT.

IT'S AT THOSE HIGH HIGH VOLUME CLINICS.

SO WE HAVE THAT, IF YOU CALL AND WE CAN, OR YOU ASK US OR THOSE INDIVIDUAL, UH, CLINICS, WE'LL GIVE OUT A FREE FOR PIT, PIT BULLS OR PIT MIXES.

BUT YOU CAN ALSO JUST CONTACT OUR SHELTER AND ASK ABOUT, UM, SPAY FOR FREE.

UH, VOUCHERS.

UM, AND AGAIN, THOSE ARE ALSO GOOD AT EITHER OUR CLINIC, WHICH IS IN FORT WORDS, SO MAYBE NOT THAT CONVENIENT, BUT AGAIN, TCAP AND SPAY IT OR NETWORK AVAILABLE FOR THOSE.

SO THERE ARE FACILITIES HERE IN KAUFMAN COUNTY THAT PEOPLE COULD TAKE THEIR ANIMALS TO WITH THE VOUCHER.

THE SPAIN NETWORK IN CVILLE.

I THINK TCAP ONE HAS ONE IN GARLAND, SO IT'S NOT TOO FAR OUT OF THE COUNTY, BUT IT'S TOO CLOSE.

THOSE WOULD BE THE TWO CLOSEST ONES FOR, FOR KAUFMAN COUNTY.

SOMEBODY GOT SOMETHING WE NEED TO GET SET UP IN.

THAT'S THE LONG TERM ANSWER FOR ALL OF THIS.

YES, YES.

STOP THE, THE INFLOW.

YEAH, EXACTLY.

NO, I MEAN, WHAT I WAS, WHAT I WAS THINKING IS THAT WE WOULD ESTABLISH THIS, THE COMMISSIONERS WOULD'VE WOULD ALL APPOINT MEMBERS TO THIS BOARD AND THAT HOPEFULLY COULD START THE FIRST OF THE YEAR AND GO THROUGH MARCH IN THE FIRST QUARTER.

THAT'S GREAT.

SO MY QUESTION IS JUST TO POINT OF FINANCIAL CLARIFICATION, ARE YOU REQUESTING RETROACTIVE FOR FIRST QUARTER ADDITIONAL FUNDING? OR ASK OR GOING FORWARD? I WELL, I, THE SECOND,

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WE COULD PROVIDE THAT ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR YOU DURING THAT TIME.

AND THEN THEY COULD REPORT BACK TO Y'ALL WITH THEM, COULD REPORT BACK TO US ABOUT HOW ARE WE DOING AND ARE WE, IS WHAT WE'RE DOING BEING EFFECTIVE.

BECAUSE HOPEFULLY IT, THE FINANCIAL SITUATION WOULDN'T BE A LONG-TERM THING.

IF WE COULD LOWER THE INPUT THE SECOND QUARTER, YOUR SECOND QUARTER ON THE FIRST QUARTER.

I'M SORRY, I'M TALKING ABOUT YEAH, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE FIRST, THE FIRST CALENDAR QUARTER BEGINNING IN UNDERSTAND JANUARY.

I'M SORRY, SORRY.

SOMEHOW.

AND I, I DID ASK KAREN ABOUT THAT AND I, CAN YOU TELL US, NEVER TOLD ME AN AMOUNT.

BUT CAN YOU, WHAT ARE WE, WHAT COULD WE, WHERE COULD WE DRAW THOSE FUNDS? OR LAST YEAR WE, WE DIDN'T, WE HAVE TO TAKE IT FROM CONTINGENCY.

WE DIDN'T, YOU, WE HAD A LOT OF MONEY OR SIGNIFICANT MONEY, MONEY LEFT OVER LAST YEAR FOR THIS OPERATION THAT WE DIDN'T USE.

BUT THAT'S ALL GONE BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND SKIN FUND BALANCE.

SO HOW MUCH ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? WELL, I GUESS THE COMMITMENT, IF WE DO THAT WOULD BE 15,000 THROUGH THE, FOR THREE MONTHS.

15,000 A MONTH FOR THREE MONTHS, AND THEN JANUARY THROUGH MARCH.

I'M SORRY, ABOUT THE QUARTER THING.

I STILL, I STILL LIVE ON A CALENDAR QUARTER.

I'VE GOT IT IN CONTINGENCY.

IT'S ENOUGH THERE, BUT I'M WAITING TO SEE WHAT YOU APPROVE ON THE OTHER CUZ IT'S GONNA WIPE IT OUT.

ON WHAT OTHER, THE OTHER AGENDA ITEM.

YOU GOTTA END INTO THE ITEM ON THE OTHER PAGE ABOUT THE SALARIES.

OH YEAH.

UP THE FIRST WEEK.

UM, SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR SUSAN? OKAY.

SO REALLY, SO ITEM FOUR IS, UH, DISCUSSED CONSIDERED CREATING A KAUFFMAN COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES BOARD.

[4. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider creating a Kaufman County Animal Services Board. ]

UM, SINCE WE HAVE A CHANGE IN THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE, AND I TALKED TO KAREN BALEY ABOUT HELPING WITH THIS.

MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE THAT WE, UM, THAT AT OUR NEXT MEETING OR BEFORE THE END OF THIS YEAR, THAT THE COMMISSIONERS APPOINT SOMEBODY TO BE A, A TEMPORARY, UH, BOARD FOR THE PET ADOPTION CENTER FOR ANIMAL SERVICES.

WE APPOINTED A TEMPORARY BOARD AND THAT THEY WOULD GO THROUGH MARCH, GET THEIR BYLAWS SET UP, GET, GET THEMSELVES ORGANIZED, AND THEN THE NEW COURT COULD CHOOSE TO REAPPOINT OR APPOINT, UH, UH, A PERMANENT COURT AFTER THAT.

ALL ORGANIZED AND STUFF.

AND THE, AND KAREN SAID SHE WOULD HELP WITH GETTING THEIR BYLAWS SET AND ALL THAT SORT OF THING.

DO YOU WANT EACH COMMISSIONER TO APPOINT SOMEBODY? I THINK EACH COMMISSIONER TO APPOINT THE MEMBER OF THE BOARD.

HOW MANY BOARD MEMBERS JUDGE? JUST FOUR.

WELL, I, NO, IT WOULD BE FIVE, I GUESS.

UM, DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? WELL, I, I JUST THINK THAT WHEN WE START ASKING SOMEBODY TO SERVE, HEY, YOU COME IN HERE AND JUST DO A TEMPORARY, IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA.

I JUST, WE JUST, I I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE BOARD.

EVERYTHING YOU'VE SAID, THE BOARD DEAL IS GREAT, BUT LET'S JUST A POINT AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR.

AND THAT WAY IT'S, YOU'RE NOT ASKING SOMEONE THIS IS A TEMPORARY DEAL, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST, WE ASKED YOU JUST TO, WE WANT YOU TO SERVE AND TRY TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE WITH THE ANIMALS AND YEAH, THAT'S FINE.

THAT'S FINE.

MY MY THOUGHT WAS THAT THE PEOPLE THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE PEOPLE THAT MIGHT BE GOOD AT ORGANIZING LIKE, THAT HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH DOING BYLAWS AND, YOU KNOW, AND CREATING MISSION STATEMENTS AND ALL THAT STUFF.

AND THEY MIGHT BE THE SAME PEOPLE, BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME.

I THINK IT, BUT IS THERE GENERAL AGREEMENT THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SINCE WE HAVE THAT PATTERN WITH ALL OF OUR OTHER BOARDS AS A GENERAL AGREEMENT THAT WE SHOULD WELL, I THINK IT'S A GREAT, YEAH.

I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, FOR FUNDRAISERS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, PLUS TOO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THEY CAN LOOK AT THE BUDGET AND, AND ONCE THEY LEARN WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE, THEY MIGHT HAVE SOME GOOD IDEAS TO MAKE IT MORE EFFECTIVE.

AND, AND, AND WE HAVEN'T DONE ANY FUNDRAISING.

WE HAVEN'T DONE, THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY FUNDRAISING.

UH, AND I THINK, I THINK THIS IS A CAUSE THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD SUPPORT, SO YEAH.

UM, JUST GONNA GET IT OUT THERE.

JANUARY, THEN WE WON'T, I WON'T CALL FOR A MOTION ON ITEM FOUR.

SO IF THE, IF THE GENERAL DIRECTION IS, IF THE GENERAL DIRECTION IS THAT WE WOULD JUST APPOINT THE BOARD IN THE NEXT CYCLE IN

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AND I'LL JUST LEAVE, LEMME KNOW THAT WE CAN EVEN CALL FOR A MOTION ON THE OTHER IF SHE, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS OTHER UNTIL WE FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO ON THAT TOO.

WELL, AND THERE'S NO, THAT, THAT'S NOT ONE OF THE, THAT I WAS INTENDING AFTER Y'ALL HEARD THIS PRESENTATION, THEN WE BRING THAT UP ON UPCOMING.

WE'D BRING THAT UP ON OUR UPCOMING, UH, RIGHT.

UH, OUR NEXT MEETING PROBABLY.

HE DIDN'T PUT IT IN THERE FOR MOMENT.

SO NO MOTION COMING FORTH ON FOUR.

AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM

[6. Garrett Moore; Discuss/Consider approving the updated Kaufman County Floodplain Management Court Order. ]

SIX.

GARRETT MOORE, DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING THE UPDATED KAUFMAN COUNTY FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT COURT.

SO AS THE ITEM STATES, UM, I'VE GONE AND DONE SOME MINOR EDITS AND UPDATES ON THE, UH, KAUFMAN COUNTY FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT COURT ORDER.

FEMA REACHED OUT.

THEY HAD, UH, STATED THAT WE NEEDED TO UPDATE IT TO BRING IT UP TO STANDARD WITH EVERYBODY ELSE.

UM, THIS IS KIND OF A, UH, AS FAR AS I KNOW IT, I KNOW IT'S STATEWIDE.

I BELIEVE IT MIGHT BE EVEN COVERING SOME OTHER STATES, BUT FEMA, UH, SENT OUT NEW REGULATIONS, SAID THAT WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR ORDER IS THE SAME.

I WENT THROUGH.

IT LARGELY STAYED THE SAME.

I DID ADD SOME MORE TEETH TO THIS.

AND, UH, REALLY IT'S NOT MUCH DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IT WAS BEFORE.

WHAT CAN YOU TELL US WHAT YOU ADDED? UM, ON ARTICLE FIVE, SECTION C, ITEM TWO, I ADDED SOME MORE, UH, SPECIFICS ON WHAT, UH, UH, I'M EXPECTING DEVELOPERS TO SUBMIT WHENEVER THEY SUBMIT A PLAN FOR A PLANNED SUBDIVISION, UH, TO THE COUNTY.

AND, UM, I CAN TELL YOU, I CAN TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILS ABOUT IT IF YOU WANT TO.

AND, UH, SET UP LIKE A, A MEETING WITH YOU OR, YEAH.

WELL, IS THIS GONNA DEAL WITH DOWNSTREAM FLOODING? MM-HMM.

? YES.

I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE YEAH.

ON, ON IT.

I SPECIFICALLY CALL OUT DISTANCES ON H AND H STUDIES OF BOTH UPSTREAM AND DOWNSTREAM OF THE, UH, UH, SUBMITTED DEVELOPMENT.

UM, STARTING FROM THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY LINES, WOULD THIS AFFECT ANYBODY THAT'S CURRENTLY HAS THEIR DEVELOPMENT IN THE PROCESS? OR IS IT JUST GONNA START JANUARY 1ST? OR, UH, THIS STARTS, THIS WOULD BE A, UH, JANUARY, UH, FIRST ONE.

SO JANUARY 1ST, 2023, THIS WOULD TAKE EFFECT.

EVERYTHING THAT'S COME IN SO FAR HAS BEEN AND WILL BE GRANDFATHERED INTO THE OLD, UH, REGULATION, EVEN IF IT'S UNAPPROVED YET.

JUST IF IT'S JU THE SUBMISSION STARTS THE GRANDFATHERED IN.

I IF I'VE ALREADY SPOKEN WITH THEM ABOUT THE, UH, FLOODPLAIN COR, LIKE WHAT I'M EXPECTING FROM, FOR THEM TO SUBMIT TO ME, I WOULD CONSIDER THAT TO BE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GRANDFATHERED IN ANYONE ELSE WHO HAS NOT FULLY PUT IN THEIR PLANS ONCE THIS GOES INTO EFFECT, I WOULD EXPECT THEM TO FOLLOW THIS.

I DON'T CAN EXPECT A BIG INUNDATION BETWEEN NOW AND JANUARY.

WELL, I MEAN, THAT'S FAIR, BUT IF THEY HAVEN'T BROKEN GROUND YET, THEN IT'S NOT REALLY GONNA BE AFFECTING, I'M WONDERING IF THEY HAVEN'T BROKEN GROUND YET, BUT THEY'VE SUBMITTED PAPERWORK AND IT'S IN THE PROCESS, I STILL THINK IT'D BE A GOOD IDEA TO DO THIS.

AND FOR THE MOST PART, THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN ASKING PEOPLE TO DO ANYWAY.

I'M PUTTING IT INTO THE REGULATIONS, UH, JUST SO IT'S SPECIFICALLY SPELLED OUT.

UM, BECAUSE I'VE HAD PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT IT IS THAT I'M EXPECTING, EVEN THOUGH I'VE EXPLAINED IT TO 'EM A NUMBER OF TIMES.

SO I FIGURED THAT IF I HAVE IT HERE, IT'LL BE EASY FOR THEM TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT I WANT FROM THEM.

UM, OR AT LEAST EASIER.

SO, UH, I HOPE THAT ANSWERED THE QUESTION.

, IS THERE ANYTHING, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WOULD TURN IN PLANS NOW AND, AND BE TURNING DIRT BEFORE THE FIRST OF THE YEAR.

NOW , I DON'T THINK, I DON'T, I THINK THAT, THAT EVEN IF THEY DID TURN IN PLANS, YOU COULD HANDLE THAT AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO EXPECT.

SO I MEAN, AND LIKE I SAID, YEAH, THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT GAVE ME, UM, AND IT GAVE ME, IT STATES THAT I CAN ASK FOR OTHER THINGS ASIDE FROM WHAT IS LISTED AND WHAT I HAVE ASKED FOR IS LISTED ON HERE.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS WRITTEN DOWN SO IT WAS MORE CLEAR.

UH, YOU KNOW, WITH A LOT OF THE FLOODING, WITH ALL THE CONSTRUCTION IN THE FOY AREA MM-HMM.

A LOT OF STUFF THAT I INHERITED THROUGH THE REDISTRICTING PROCESS.

AREN'T YOU A UNLIKELY PERSON? I KNOW .

IT'S HARD TO GET ANYBODY TO SAY, HEY, WE ARE RESPONSIBLE TO MONITOR THOSE CONSTRUCTION SITES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE DOING IT APPROPRIATELY.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

BUT, UH, UM, THE, THE S WPP THE PERMIT MM-HMM.

, THEY FILED AND, AND WHENEVER I STARTED DOING SOME RESEARCH IN THERE, THERE'S, IT'S,

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, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S JUST A PAY THE FEE TO THE STATE.

, THEY DO THEIR PAPERWORK, PUT UP A SIGN MM-HMM.

, BUT NOBODY'S MONITORING THAT THEY'RE FOLLOWING IT OR DOING IT OR WHATEVER.

AND IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF THOSE ISSUES WERE, WERE FROM THAT, THAT NOBODY WAS ACTUALLY MONITORING WHAT THEY HAD THEIR CONTROL.

AND, AND I DON'T KNOW IF, UH, WHAT THE STORMWATER SIDE OF THINGS HAS BEEN DOING.

UH, I BELIEVE STEVE HUEY'S OFFICE HAS BEEN THE ONE WHO'S KIND OF BEEN MANAGING THAT.

SO I HAVEN'T TAKEN THAT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE FLOODPLAIN POLICY? NO.

NO.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAVING ISSUES IN MY PRECINCT RIGHT NOW WITH THE SUBDIVISION.

AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT'S IN PLANNING OR WRAPPING THINGS UP.

YOU GET STARTED.

IT'S ADJACENT TO MY PROPERTY.

AND I HAVE SOME SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING ON DOING OVER THERE.

CAUSE THAT PROPERTY SETS UP HIGHER THAN MINE.

AND YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN THEIR, THEIR ENGINEER PLAN.

I JUST, I DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GONNA WORK AND WHAT THEY'RE SAYING, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME FLOODING THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN CAUSE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT AND IT REALLY CONCERNS ME AND MY NEIGHBORS.

AND IF THEY'RE IN A FLOODPLAIN, UH, I HAVE SPOKEN TO THEM PRIOR, I BELIEVE I KNOW WHICH ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

UM, BUT IF THEY'RE NOT IN A FLOODPLAIN, THIS NECESSARILY WOULD NOT OR THIS WOULD NOT AFFECT THEM.

IF THERE'S NOT, THE WAY THAT THIS IS WRITTEN IS THAT ANY PROPERTY THAT IS TOUCHED BY OR IS CON, HAS A FLOODPLAIN CONTAINED WITHIN IT, A SPECIAL HAZARD, THE SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD AREA, THIS WOULD TAKE EFFECT.

IF THERE'S NOTHING THERE, THEN THIS WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD AFFECT THAT THEIR PROPERTY HAS TO BE TOUCHING SOME MM-HMM.

FLOOD PLAIN.

AND FROM IS THAT IT WOULD BE, WHENEVER THERE IS A FLOODPLAIN TOUCHING THE PROPERTY, IT USUALLY MEANS THAT THERE'S AT LEAST A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WATER THAT WOULD BE DRAINING TOWARD THERE NATURALLY ANYWAY.

AND WHICH IS WHY IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S SPELLED OUT CLEARLY, THAT THERE'S NO VAGUE STATEMENT ABOUT WHAT IS EXPECTED.

IT'S, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS AS EASY TO UNDERSTAND AS POSSIBLE THAT YOU NEED TO GIVE THIS TO ME.

THAT WAY I CAN SEE WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE DISCHARGING INTO THE, UH, FLOODPLAIN AND WHAT YOU'RE GONNA BE DOING THAT MIGHT AFFECT PEOPLE UPSTREAM AND DOWNSTREAM OF YOU AND THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES AROUND YOU.

BECAUSE LIKE, LIKE IN, IN MY DISTRICT, MY BIGGEST CONCERN HAS ALWAYS BEEN, AND ME AND YOU HAVE DROVE, LOOKED AT IT, TALKED TO 'EM, YEAH.

BEAT 'EM UP ABOUT IT IS THE, IS THE SPEED OF THE WATER.

, WHEN THEY START DOING THIS, THEY START PUTTING IN STREET STORM SEWERS AND GUESS WHAT? IT ALL RUNS OUT THIS EXIT IN THE SAME SPOT, BUT IT'S ALL ROOFTOPS AND IT'S SO QUICK.

, THERE'S NO NATURAL ABSORPTION AND NO, NO WAY TO SLOW IT DOWN.

AND SO IT JUST ENDS UP SOMEWHERE A LOT FASTER THAN IT DID BEFORE.

YEP.

AND THAT REALLY CREATES PROBLEMS. AND IT HAS OVER IN, IN MINE.

I KNOW, I THINK EVERY DISTRICT, I THINK EVERY PRECINCT IN COLIN COUNTY HAS BEEN AFFECTED ABOUT, ABOUT THE ABSOLUTELY.

BATHROOM.

THERE'S BEEN A DIFFERENT THINGS.

AND, AND I KNOW EVERYBODY THINKS THEIRS IS THE WORST.

AND THERE'S NO QUESTION IF YOU HAVE WATER, YOURS IS THE WORST MM-HMM.

AND SO IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, HIS NEIGHBORS OUT IN THE PASTURE OR MINE DOWN THE STREET, ORKINS DOWN, YOU KNOW, IN THE BOTTOM MM-HMM.

IT, IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE CUZ YOU'RE THE ONE BEING IMPACTED.

SO ANYTIME YOU'RE THE ONE BEING IMPACTED, IT DOESN'T MATTER.

THEY COULD SUBDIVIDE OFF A PIECE OF THAT PROPERTY.

YOU'RE, YOU'RE IMPACTED.

MY MY HOPE WITH THIS IS THAT WITH THE BOUNDS BEING WHAT THEY ARE AS STATED IN THE, IN THE, UM, ITEM, I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN SEE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WELL DOWNSTREAM OF WHERE THESE, UH, BIG DEVELOPMENTS ARE BEING PUT IN.

AND I SPECIFICALLY CALL OUT THAT THEY NEED TO GIVE ME THE VELOCITY OF THE FLOW THAT'S BEING AFFECTED AS WELL AS A REPORT ON WHAT THE SCOUR IS GOING TO BE LIKE.

SO ANY KIND OF EROSION THAT'S HAPPENING OR ANY KIND OF SEDIMENTATION, IF THEY SLOW DOWN THE WATER TOO MUCH, IS THERE A BUNCH OF SEDIMENT THAT'S GONNA BE DROPPING OUT? NOW IS IF THE WATER'S GOING TOO FAST, ARE YOU JUST GONNA BE TEARING UP EVERYTHING AND CARRYING DOWN THAT DOWNSTREAM AND STILL DOWNSTREAM? SO MY HOPE IS, IS THAT BLOOD PLANE MANAGEMENT, UH, DOES IT HAVE ENOUGH TEETH TO REQUIRE, UH, DETENTION OR RETENTION PONDING, UH, Y THEY CANNOT BUILD ANYTHING IN, IN OR AROUND THAT FLOODPLAIN UNLESS THAT GETS APPROVAL FROM ME.

SO WHILE I MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO STOP THEM WHILE OUTSIDE OF THE FLOODPLAIN, IF IT'S ANYWHERE IN OR AROUND THAT FLOODPLAIN AREA, UH, I CAN'T STOP THEM,

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IT TOUCHES, THERE'S A LITTLE PIECE THAT TOUCHES A FLOOD PLAIN.

THEY COULD SUBDIVIDE THAT OFF AND THEN YOU COULDN'T, YOU COULDN'T GET TO 'EM.

HMM.

I, I'D HAVE TO WELL CAUSE IT BE WITH OWNER TO BE A DIFFERENT LAND THAN YOU PROBABLY COULDN'T.

WELL YOU CAN SUBD YOUR OWN LAND.

POTENTIALLY.

I WOULD HAVE TO, UH, MEET WITH A COUPLE PEOPLE ABOUT THAT AND YEAH.

KINDA DISCUSS IT.

I JUST SEE THAT AS A WORKAROUND THAT SOMEBODY CAN GET OUT OF THE REQUIREMENT IF THEY DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THIS.

REMIND YOU PUT THAT ON, ON TV NOW.

EVERYBODY WAS GETTING FLOODED.

NOW THEY ALL KNOW.

NO, THEY ALL, SORRY.

UH, NO, I'M JUST I BET SOME OF WOULD ALREADY.

NO, I'M SURE.

LEMME TELL YOU THAT THOUGHTS HAPPENED.

UM, THE DEVELOPER'S WAY AHEAD OF YOU MM-HMM.

, UM, THAT'S THE TROUBLE.

AND, AND I KNOW, AND THAT'S WHAT STARTED RETENTION PONDS IS THIS SAME ISSUE.

DIDN'T, AND IT DIDN'T MATTER WHERE YOU WERE.

IF YOU BUILT SO MUCH CONCRETE SPACE, MOST CITIES DO HAVE ORDINANCE EVERY YEAH.

THAT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU BUILT SO MUCH CONCRETE, YOU BETTER RETAIN THAT WATER.

AND THERE'S NO FLOODPLAIN ATTACHED TO IT.

I DO.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TEETH PROBABLY IS RETENTION OFF OF ANY KIND OF DEVELOPMENT.

IF YOU'RE GONNA SPEED UP THE PROCESS OF THE WATER, GET INTO YOUR NEIGHBOR, WHICH WOULD BE, I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE MORE KIND OF A STORM WATER REGULATION THAT MIGHT NEED TO BE UPDATED THEN ON THAT.

WELL, I MEAN, I'M JUST SAYING YOU SEE WHAT YEAH, NO, YOU'RE SAYING THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY HERE IS TALKING ABOUT AND I, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP.

IT IS AN ISSUE YEAH.

IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT PLACES AND HAVE TO DETERMINE IF YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT, DO THAT.

THEN THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING BECAUSE WE CAN'T WRITE AN ORDINANCE TO A TCEQ ISSUE.

CORRECT.

THEY DO HAVE TO, UH, WHENEVER THEY SW PERMIT IS MADE, I BELIEVE THAT THEY NOT ONLY HAVE TO SUBMIT IT TO THE COUNTY, THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT IT TO TCEQ AS WELL.

I BELIEVE THAT'S THE CORRECT, UH, PATH THAT THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW.

BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WHEN IT COMES TO THE REGULATIONS THAT I'VE READ, A NOTICE OF INTENT HAS TO BE SENT TO TCE Q THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE DISCHARGING STORMWATER.

AND THAT HAS TO BE CC'D TO US AS WELL FOR OUR A OWN INFORMATION.

AND USUALLY THAT INVOLVES SENDING PLANS AS WELL.

SO SAY LIKE I, MY BIGGEST PROBLEM IS MINE'S ONLY IN ET IN THE ETJ OF DALLAS.

BUT THEY'RE STILL, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T NECESSARILY MAKE 'EM PUT IN A RETENTION OWNER MM-HMM.

DEVELOPING THE HOUSES AND I DON'T KNOW WHO IN, I DON'T KNOW WHY.

DALLAS COUNTY.

DALLAS COUNTY, YEAH.

COUNTY OF DALLAS IS OUT THERE CHECKING UP ON THESE STORM WATER.

THEN I KNOW THE WATER MANAGEMENT STUFF.

BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN MULTIPLE LOCATIONS WHERE SILT FENCES HAVE BEEN KNOCKED DOWN AND UH, IT'S SOMETIMES MAINTAINED, SOMETIMES NOT.

IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE DAY, I GUESS.

I KNOW.

I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE A CLUE.

AND THEY'RE OUTTA SIGHT, THEY'RE OUTTA MINE.

SO, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE IN KAMAN COUNTY, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT WAS AS WORRIED ABOUT 'EM TOO HARD.

UH, IT DEFINITELY, IT SHOULD BE.

IT SHOULD BE ON THEIR PRIORITY.

COULD BE BECAUSE IT'S COMING TO 'EM.

, YOU KNOW, ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

IT'S GONNA MAKE IT BACK TO THE EAST FORK AND TO THE TRINITY AND IT'S GOING TO GO TO DALLAS.

SO, SO YOUR REQUEST IS FOR US TO APPROVE THIS UPDATE? YES.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR GARRETT? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE UPDATED KAUFMAN COUNTY FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT COURT? WE HAVE THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER HUNT.

COMMISSIONER CAGE DISCUSSION.

DICKEY, DISCUSS, CONSIDER, OH, I NEED TO, I THINK THIS IS A SIGNATURE ITEM.

THANK YOU, SIR.

YEAH, NO PROBLEM.

AND LIKE I SAID, IF Y'ALL, EVERYONE WANT ME TO MEET WITH Y'ALL AND EXPLAIN THE, UH, MORE NITTY GRITTY DETAILS, LET ME KNOW.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

UH, NEXT UP CHRISTIE

[7. Kristi Dickey; Discuss/Consider approving the final plat of Sowers Hayfield Addition located on County Road 275 in Pet. 3]

DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING THE FINAL PLAT OF SOW'S HAYFIELD EDITION LOCATED ON COUNTY ROAD 2 75 IN PRECINCT THREE.

CHRISTIE'S CHANGED.

CHRISTIE CHRISTIE CHANGED TODAY.

CHRIST.

, SHE HAD A PERSONAL THING SHE HAD TO TAKE CARE OF, SO I TOLD HER I WOULD COME TO COURT AND DO IT FOR HER.

YOU CAN DO IT.

I CAN DO IT.

I THINK I CAN.

SO WE HAVE, UM, THE SAWYERS HAYFIELD EDITION.

UM, SO WE, IT'S FUNNY THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT CUTTING OUT LOTS AND LEAVING THE FLOODPLAIN ALONE.

THIS IS ONE OF THEM.

IT WAS A 22 ACRE TRACT.

THEY CUT FOUR TRACKS OUT OF THE PART THAT'S NOT IN A FLOODPLAIN FOR RESALE.

AND THEN THEY PLATTED IT AND THE OWNER KEPT THE REMAINDER OF THE PROPERTY, AS I TOLD YOU THEY'D THINK OF IT.

WELL, HE'S USING IT FOR CATTLE, SO THAT'S GOOD.

SO ANYWAY, THIS ONE'S UP FOR APPROVAL.

IT IS, UM, FOUR LOTS OFF COUNTY ROAD 2 75 PRECINCT.

THREE QUESTIONS.

IF THERE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FINAL PLA OF SO WHERES HAYFIELD EDITION IS PRESENTED? I'LL

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MAKE THAT MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER BARBARA.

COMMISSIONER KATES DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR OF SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

DICKEY'S SUBSTITUTE, DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING THE REPLAT OF LOTS 13 AND 14 IN INDIAN SPRINGS LOCATED ON FM 28 60 IN PRECINCT ONE.

OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES BACK TO CHRISTIE

[8. Kristi Dickey; Discuss/Consider approving the replat of lots 13 & 14 in Indian Springs, located on FM 2860 in Pet. 1. ]

SO IN THIS SITUATION IT WAS, UM, FAMILY MEMBERS THAT DIDN'T LIKE THE WAY THEIR LINES LOOKED.

SO THEY KIND OF STRAIGHTENED OUT THEIR PARCELS.

BUT BECAUSE IT DOES LIE IN A SUBDIVISION, THEY HAVE TO REPLAT OR CORRECT THE OFFICIAL RECORD.

SO THEY WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS AND HAD THAT DONE.

STILL THE SAME OWNERS, JUST THE LOT LINES GOT CLEANED UP A LITTLE BIT.

QUESTIONS? IF THERE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT REPLAT OF LOST 13 AND 14 IN INDIAN SPRINGS? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

CONSIDER ACCEPTING ROADS IN OAK POINT ESTATE LOCATED ON COUNTY ROAD 3 0 3 AND 3 0 4 IN PRECINCT THREE.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION? THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFYING AYE OPPOS? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES BACK TO MONIQUE.

DISCUSS,

[9. Kristi Dickey; Discuss/Consider accepting the roads in Oak Point Estate located on County Roads 303 and 304 in Pet. 3.]

THIS IS, UM, THE BART CARROLL PROPERTY FINALLY WENT THROUGH ALL THE PROCESSES.

THE ROADS WERE INSPECTED.

TN P HAS APPROVED IT.

SO, UM, WE WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH ADOPTING THE ROADS.

THE PLAT WILL BE RECORDED THROUGH THE CITY OF TARELL, OR THE PLATTING WILL GO THROUGH THEM FOR THE FINAL PLAT QUESTIONS.

YEAH, I I'D LIKE TO, I I KNOW YOU HAD THE ENGINEERS LOOK AT THESE IN THEIR CONCRETE ROADS, BUT HAVING INHERITED A LOT OF CONCRETE ROADS, THESE ROADS WILL BE FINE FOR 20 YEARS AND SOME COMMISSIONER IS GOING TO BE AFTER ENERGY.

WHAT'S THAT? THEY GONNA BE MANAGE.

I MEAN, BUT IT'S JUST, IT'S GONNA COST A LOT OF MONEY TO REPAIR THESE ROADS.

SO I I UH, I JUST THINK THAT WE'RE OPENING UP PANDORA'S BOX IF WE START TAKING IN DEVELOPERS ROADS YEAH.

THAT IT'S GONNA COST US A LOT OF MONEY.

WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.

CUZ CONCRETE'S NOT CHEAP.

I MEAN, WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE WITH GYPS SEAL AND ASPHALT TO GET THESE ROADS DONE.

AND FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, I MEAN, JUST SOME OF THE ROADS THAT I'VE GOT THAT I'VE ALREADY DONE, I MEAN, TO PATCH THREE PATCHES WHERE IT'S CRACKED, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE $86,000.

YOU KNOW, TO CUT OUT THREE SQUARES AND GET EVERY REDONE.

SO, SO, AND YOU KNOW, ALL THE BIG, THE BIG SUBDIVISIONS MAINTAIN THEIR OWN STREETS.

YES, YES.

THEY HAVE HO COURSE COURSE THEY HAVE AN HOA AND THEY'RE PAYING INTO IT TO MAINTAIN THE ROADS.

AND, AND, AND WE ALL TALK ABOUT THIS AND WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT IT, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT STATES MADE IT ALMOST POSSIBLE FOR THE CITY TO GO OUT AND ANNEX UNLESS THEY MAKE A DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS AND THEY PUT IT IN VOLUNTARILY AND THEN THE CITY CAN MAINTAIN THE ROAD BECAUSE THE REGULATION COUNTIES IS MADE FOR MAINTAINING BASICALLY A CITY'S ROAD.

I MEAN, THIS IS WHAT IT'S A AMOUNTING TO HERE.

ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE GONNA START HAVING LITTLE TOWNS EVERYWHERE WITH NO GOVERNMENT THAT'S COLLECTING SALES TAX AND THINGS TO PAY IN ON THE ROAD.

SO I, I THINK WE'RE, WE ARE IN GETTING INTO UNKNOWN WATERS.

I MEAN BASICALLY, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW EVERYBODY FEELS ABOUT IT, BUT THE SAME WAY IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A TOUGH DEAL.

I MEAN, BUT IT'S IN, I THINK IT'S IN OUR REGULATIONS RIGHT NOW THAT IF WE DO ALL THIS, THAT WE WILL DO THIS.

THAT DOESN'T SAY, BUT YOU'RE SETTING A PRECEDENT.

WELL, OUR REGULATIONS STATE THAT THEY HAVE TO CREATE AN HOA OR A PROPERTY OWNER'S ASSOCIATION, BUT IT DOES LEAVE THAT CLAUSE IN THERE AT THE DISCRETION OF THE COMMISSIONER IF HE'S WANTING TO ACCEPT THE ROADS.

THAT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A DONE DEAL JUST CAUSE OKAY.

I'M, NO, WE HAVE IT TO WHERE IF THEY ARE DOING ROAD, THEY'RE BUILDING INTERIOR ROADS OR ANY INFRASTRUCTURE, THEN THEY HAVE TO CREATE THE HOA OR THE PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION.

I GUESS THE QUESTION IS WHY WOULD, UH, YOU KNOW, AUNT MILDRED WHO LIVES OUT ON COUNTY ROAD 1 23, WHY WOULD WE ASK HER TO PAY FOR THIS TO MAINTAIN THIS STREET, CONCRETE STREET? RIGHT.

I'M, I'M AGREEING WITH, I'M NOT ARGUING ADMIT IF WE COULD AFFORD IT.

NO, BUT WE, WE JUST, I'M TELLING YOU THAT THE, THE GUY DOWN THE ROAD WHEN ALL THIS STARTS FALLING APART, IT'S GONNA BE TOUGH TO I MR. CAROL, NOW THERE'S SOMETHING TO DO WITH YOUR INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THAT DOES A LOT OF THIS TO YOU.

YOUR INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT LOST TERRI CAROL AND YOU KNOW, THEY GET ALL THE PER REVIEW AUTHORITY, THEN YOU TURN AROUND ON AND THE COUNTY GETS THE BURDEN OF TAKING OVER THE ROADS INSTEAD OF IT BEING IN THE CITY UP TO THE MICROPHONE.

INSTEAD MICROPHONE, THANK Y'ALL.

SORRY.

NOPE, YOU GO.

I ACTUALLY, WE CAN HEAR HIM PRETTY GOOD, BUT, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT.

SORRY, I, I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT, BUT, UH, COULD YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF PLEASE? YEAH.

BAR CAR, CAROL CONSULTING GROUP AND, UH, WITH THE ENGINEER AND SURVEYOR ON THIS PROJECT AND, UH, THE, UH, CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT.

BUT, UH, YEAH, A LOT OF THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT MAKES IT TOUGH, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, TERRELL GETS ALL THE SAY SO,

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AND AN ACCOUNTING GETS THE ROADS AND YOU GET TO MAINTAIN, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S KIND OF TOUGH FROM A DEVELOPER'S STANDPOINT TOO, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY THE ROADS HAVE GOTTA GO SOMEWHERE AFTER A TWO YEAR MAINTENANCE AND THEN, LIKE COMMISSIONER HUNT SAID IT'S EXPENSIVE TO MAINTAIN THEM.

AFTER 10, 20 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.

I, I DON'T KNOW.

I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WOULD KIND OF ODD THE WAY THE 10 OR LOCAL AGREEMENT WAS ADOPTED.

AND THAT WAS A LONG TIME AGO.

I THINK IT WAS PROBABLY 2003 THAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY ADOPTED.

UH, AT LEAST THE VERSION I'VE READ, AND MAYBE IT'S BEEN UPDATED SINCE THEN.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A CHALLENGE THERE TOO IS, YOU KNOW, DOES TA GROW AND DO THEY EXTEND OUT THERE AND THEN ULTIMATELY, ONCE TERRELL EXTENDS, THEY THEY HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THE ROADS.

THEY CAN'T ANNEX THOSE PROPERTIES.

THEY CAN'T ANNEX NO MORE.

THEY'D HAVE TO STATE LAW THE, THE WAY THE STATE LAW IS WRITTEN, IF THERE'S, IF THEY'RE HOUSING PROPERTY OWNERS, IT'S, UNLESS THEY VOLUNTARILY ANNEX, BUT THE, A CITY IS NOT GONNA BENEFIT FROM TAKING ON A DEVELOPMENT LIKE THAT.

EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE GONNA GET THE PROPERTY TAXES OFF THE HOUSES WHEN YOU FACTOR IN ALL THE COSTS HAVING TO PROVIDE SERVICES AND STUFF.

I DON'T THINK THE CITIES WILL FOR THEY, THEY CAN'T ANNEX AND I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD UNLESS THERE'S SOME COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OR SOMETHING THERE.

WELL, I JUST, YOU KNOW, BUT BEING IN THEIR EXTRATERRITORIAL JUST, YOU KNOW, BEING IN THEIR ETK YEAH.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN THEY ULTIMATELY, THAT'S THE REASON THEY GROW IS TO DO THAT.

AND I REALIZE AT THIS STAGE OF THE GAME, THE INTERLOCAL AGREES WRITTEN WHERE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE BURDENS PUT ON THE COUNTY YEAH.

AND THE COMMISSIONERS TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN IT.

BUT THEN IF, BUT WE HAVE THAT OPTION.

I GUESS YOU DO HAVE THE OPTION TO DO IT OR NOT.

OR TO NOT MAINTAIN IT.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ON THAT? NO, MIKE MADE SOME GOOD POINTS.

THAT'S EVERYTHING I'VE BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT AND, UH, HE AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT TOO.

BUT, UM, YEAH, I MEAN, I, I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S, UH, A GOOD TIME FOR US TO DO THIS.

BE HONEST WITH YOU.

I JUST DON'T.

THEN WE HAVE ITEM NINE.

IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THOSE ROADS AS PRESENTED AND DISCUSSED? OKAY.

NO MOTION COMING FORWARD.

WE'LL MOVE

[10. Robert Hunter; Discuss/Consider accepting donations from Cedar Creek Country Club to Kaufman County Veterans Services in the amount of $4000.00.]

ON TO ITEM 10.

THAT MOTION FA OR THAT ITEM FAILS.

ITEM 10, ROBERT HUNTER, CONSIDER ACCEPTING DONATIONS FROM CEDAR CREEK COUNTRY CLUB TO KAUFMAN COUNTY VETERANS SERVICES IN THE AMOUNT OF $4,000.

GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN.

MORNING.

SO, UM, FIRST TIME, THIS HAS HAPPENED IN SIX YEARS, SO REALLY EXCITED.

UM, WE WERE CONTACTED LAST WEEK FROM THE CEDAR CREEK COUNTRY CLUB, UM, INDICATING THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT A DONATION TO THE KAUFMAN COUNTY SERVICES OFFICE FOR THE BETTERMENT OF VETERANS WITHIN KAUFMAN COUNTY.

UH, OF COURSE I SPOKE WITH COMMISSIONER KATES AND MADE SURE I WAS DOING EVERYTHING CORRECTLY.

PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR YOU GUYS TO DISCUSS AND, AND ACCEPT.

AND, UH, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AT THIS POINT.

I'D LIKE TO GIVE A SPECIAL SHOUT OUT THOUGH THIS, THIS EVENT TOOK PLACE IN NOVEMBER, UH, NOVEMBER 5TH, AND I WAS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND.

I WAS, UH, PREVIOUSLY COMMITTED TO, TO DO A MARRIAGE CEREMONY IN SHREVEPORT, SO I WASN'T IN TOWN.

AND DALLAS FOX, WHO IS A PART OF THE, UM, FRIENDS OF KAUFMAN COUNTY VET, UH, PARK BOARD.

YEP.

HE'S GONNA COME UP TOO.

I WANT HIM TO BE UP HERE WHEN WE DO THIS.

UM, BUT, UH, HE WENT OUT THERE AS HE DOES TO EVERYTHING.

HE SET UP HIS JEEPS AND HIS, YOU KNOW, MILITARY PARAPHERNALIA AND, AND REALLY, YOU KNOW, KNOW, KIND OF STOOD IN THERE AND PROMOTED, UH, KAUFMAN COUNTY AND VETERAN SERVICES AND VETERANS IN KAUFMAN COUNTY.

AND I, AND I REALLY THINK THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE CREDIT FOR THIS PARTICULAR ACHIEVEMENT REALLY GOES TO HIM BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, I WAS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND THIS.

SO I WAS NOT THERE TO PROMOTE VETERAN SERVICES.

UH, WE ARE CERTAINLY HONORED AND AND GRACIOUS TO, TO HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED, AND I'M NOT GONNA STEAL ALL OF THE THUNDER BECAUSE MR. MRS. HEATHER DUNCAN OF THE CEDAR CREEK COUNTRY CLUB IS GONNA COME UP AND, AND TALK ABOUT THEIR EVENTS SPECIFICALLY AND, AND WHAT THEIR DESIRES WERE.

BUT, UH, JUST KIND OF WANTED TO, BEFORE WE TRULY DIS DID THE ACCEPTANCE PART OF IT, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE RECOGNIZE DALLAS FOR HIS ACHIEVEMENTS AND FOR HIS CONTRIBUTIONS FOR US TO EVEN BE HERE WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

SO, THANK YOU DALLAS.

ANYBODY ELSE? OH, SO WE, WHO ELSE IS SPEAKING? UH, WELL I CAN, I CAN BRING UP MRS. MRS. DUNCAN, YOU WANT TO COME UP? COME ON, COME ON.

SO GO AHEAD.

HERE COMES DONNA.

LOOK LIKE SHE'S GOT HER CAMERA OUT.

HI, I'M HEATHER DUNCAN WITH CEDAR CREEK COUNTRY CLUB.

ON NOVEMBER 5TH, WE HELD A USO EVENT AND WE RAISED MONEY FOR VETERANS IN THE AREA AND WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A DONATION AND $4,000 TO ASSISTING VETERANS WITH NEEDS IN THIS AREA.

SO I GUESS WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE WILL, UM, WE'LL I'LL, I'LL WE'LL TAKE ACTION ON THAT ITEM AND THEN MAYBE WE'LL GO DOWN AND TAKE PICTURES.

UM,

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I THINK IT WOULD BE, UH, MOST APPROPRIATE IF COMMISSIONER KATES AND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS ACCEPTED THIS SINCE THEY ARE OUR VETERANS ON THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

SO WE HAVE, IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT DONATION IS PRESENTED IN ITEM 10? SO MOVED.

WE HAVE THAT MOTION AND COMMISSIONER KATES.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

SO DONNA, WHY DON'T WE ASK COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS AND COMMISSIONER KATES TO GET DOWN THERE AND THEN THE REST OF US WILL STAND BEHIND AND AND LOOK IMPORTANT.

DON'T STAND SEMICIRCLE RIGHT THERE.

YOU'RE FINE.

YOU'RE RIGHT UP THERE WITH THEM.

YOU NEED A GIANT CHECK.

MOVE THIS WAY JUST A LITTLE.

PERFECT.

IF YOU CAN SEE MY CAMERA, I CAN SEE .

THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE MEET YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, COMMISSIONER YOU CAN'T HAVE THAT MONEY.

I DON'T MISUNDERSTAND THAT.

REGRET TO GOOD USER .

YOU DO IT AGAIN? YES, WE WILL.

THIS I JUST THOUGHT THERE MIGHT BE SOME CONFUSION ON THAT.

WHO'S GETTING THE MONEY? .

[11. Tandi Smith; Discuss/Consider approval for the Election Administrator to attend the International Association of Government Officials (iGO) Mid-Winter Conference January 28- February 2, 2023, in Glendale, AZ. ]

MOVING ON TO ITEM 11.

TANDY SMITH.

DISCUSSED CONSIDER APPROVAL FOR THE ELECTION THE ADMINISTRATOR TO ATTEND THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS MID-WINTER CONFERENCE OF JANUARY 23RD, 28TH THROUGH FEBRUARY 2ND IN GLENDALE, ARIZONA.

GOOD MORNING GENTLEMEN.

I FORWARDED YOU THE AGENDA AS WELL AS THE EDUCATION GRID FOR THAT CONFERENCE.

AND THAT IS A TRIP THAT WAS PART OF MY PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR.

QUESTIONS IF NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT, UH, THE APPROVE ATTENDANCE OF THAT CONFERENCE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WE HAVE THE MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER BARBARA.

IS THERE SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

TANDY PRESENT FOR ACCEPTANCE, THE ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT QUARTERLY REPORT.

OPPOSED? NO.

THAT MOTION CARRIES BACK TO

[12. Tandi Smith; Present/Accept the Elections Department Quarterly Report. ]

SO I PROVIDED YOU GUYS WITH A COPY OF THE QUARTERLY REPORT, UM, SOME ASSOCIATED SLIDES WITH THAT, AS WELL AS STATISTICAL DATA RELATED TO THE NOVEMBER ELECTION.

DID Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? NO.

IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT QUARTERLY REPORT? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION THE MOTION.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION? THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY OF SAYING AYE.

OPPOS? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

THANK JOB CANDY.

13, COMMISSIONER HUNT, DISCUSS, CONSIDER ACCEPTING DONATION OF FIELD DIRT TO PRECINCT ONE ROAD AND BRIDGE PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT.

[13. Commissioner Hunt; Discuss/consider accepting donation of fill dirt to Precinct 1 Road and Bridge Pursuant to Texas Local Government Code §81.032.]

CODE 81.03.

UM, UM, WELL, WHAT I'VE GOT IS I'VE GOT A ROAD, 1 53 HEBREW ROAD ON FAIR ROAD, WHERE WE'RE EXPECTING TO GET A LOT OF TRAFFIC ONCE THE NEW JUSTICE CENTER OPENS UP.

AND, UH, WE'VE BEEN IN THE PROCESS OF DOING FLOOD STUDIES, TRYING TO FIND THE MONEY TO REPLACE A BRIDGE AND DOWN, DOWN THERE.

AND AFTER ALL THE FLOOD STUDIES WENT TO RAISE THE ROAD.

AND, UH, DURING THE DROUGHT, I, I HAD, UH, ADDED OPPORTUNITY TO DIG OUT MY TANKS.

SO MY ROAD SUPERVISOR ASKED WHAT I WAS GONNA DO WITH ALL THAT DIRT, AND I WAS JUST GONNA GET SOMEBODY WITH A BULLDOZER TO PUT IT ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE DAMS. SO HE ASKED ABOUT THE DIRT.

SO WE NEED, NEED TO RAISE THE ROAD ACCORDING TO THE FLOOD STUDY, THE FOOT AND A HALF TO TWO FOOT.

SO INSTEAD OF BUYING GOOD DIRT, I'VE GOT THE DIRT ON MY PLACE.

I'D JUST LIKE TO HAVE PERMISSION TO BRING COUNTY EQUIPMENT TO GET THAT DIRT, TO TRANSPORT IT BACK TO 1 53 SO WE CAN RAISE THE ROAD.

IT'S FREE DIRT AS OPPOSED TO BUYING DIRT.

SO IT'S A WIN-WIN FOR EVERYBODY.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE WASN'T A BIG PICTURE IN MY HOUSE WITH THE COUNTY EQUIPMENT OUT THERE AND YOU KNOW, I'LL BE ALL OVER FACEBOOK AND EVERYTHING ELSE, THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING IT AND WHY WE'RE DOING IT.

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I DECIDED PERMISSION TO, UH, DONATE THE DIRT QUESTIONS.

DO YOU HOW MUCH YOU'RE DONATING IN DOLLARS? IT'S A LOT OF DIRT.

THAT'S ALL I CAN TELL YOU.

BUT I MEAN, I, I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT ALL THAT, YOU KNOW, TO FIND OUT, BUT UNLESS YOU NEED IT, I GET SOME DIRT GUY TO LOOK AT IT AND SEE HOW MANY YARDS ARE OUT THERE.

I NEED IT.

YOU CAN TELL ME LATER.

THREE DIRT'S A GOOD THING.

YEAH, DIRT'S A GOOD THING, BUT IT, IT'S NOT A GOOD THING WHEN IT'S PILED UP ALL AROUND YOUR WATER HOSE, THEN IT'S A LONG ROLL OF IT, I'LL TELL YOU THAT.

YEAH, IT IS A LOT OF DIRT.

IT'S DIRT.

SO IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT DONATION OF PHIL DIRT IS PRESENTED? THAT'S WHY THE SHALL MOVE.

YEAH, THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER KATES.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

ITEM 14, JACK SEBASTIAN, DISCUSSED CONSIDERED DISPOSAL OF COUNTY OWN ASSETS.

[14. Jack Sebastian; Discuss/Consider disposal of county-owned assets.]

GOOD, MARK.

MM-HMM .

I THINK YOU MAY HAVE A LIST.

WE'VE GOT, THERE'S LIKE FIVE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT.

UH, THREE TRUCKS OR FOUR TRUCKS IN A VAN.

EXCUSE ME.

AND WE'LL PUT THAT ON THE TIRE AUCTION.

UH, I WOULD MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION.

QUESTIONS IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS THERE.

A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THAT DISPOSAL OF COUNTY OWNED ASSETS? NO.

MOVE.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER KATES.

COMMISSIONER BARBARA.

DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

UP, BRAD HENDRICKS DISCUSSED CONSIDER AN ORDER DESCRIBING CERTAIN COUNTY PROPERTY AS ITEMS ROUTINELY DISCARDED AS WASTE AND FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE DISPOSAL OF ITEMS ROUTINELY REGARDED AS WASTE.

[15. Brad Hendricks; Discuss/Consider an Order describing certain county property as items routinely discarded as waste, and further authorizing the disposal of items routinely discarded as waste]

THAT SOMETIMES SOMETHING DOES COST MORE THAN $50, BUT IN THAT UNIQUE PIECE OF PROPERTY, YEAH, THERE'S NO VALUE THERE.

UH, A FEW WEEKS AGO, UH, THE COURT WAS CONSIDERING, UH, DISPOSING OF ASSETS SURPLUS AND SALVAGE.

AND MR. BASHON HAD EXPLAINED HOW GENERALLY THERE HAS TO BE AUCTIONED OFF.

THIS COURT HAD ASKED ABOUT PROPERTY THAT REALLY DOESN'T MEET THAT DEFINITION.

I BELIEVE EXAMPLES WERE A BROKEN STAPLER OR SOME OLD D BITS THAT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO STORE TO SELL.

AND WHEN THEY ASKED OUR OFFICE TO GET AN ANSWER BACK TO Y'ALL, AND I'M HERE WITH THAT.

UM, SO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE IN 2 63 DOES DESCRIBE GENERALLY THAT SURPLUS AND SALVAGE IS SUPPOSED TO BE AUCTIONED JUST LIKE WE JUST DID.

UM, IT DEFINES SURPLUS AND SALVAGE SURPLUS IS GENERALLY, EXCUSE ME, UM, GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT STILL HAS VALUE FOR ITS ORIGINAL USE.

YOU JUST DON'T NEED IT LIKE A VEHICLE.

SOMEONE ELSE IS GONNA BE, USE IT AS A VEHICLE.

SALVAGE IS SOMETHING THAT'S NO LONGER GOT USED FOR.

ITS, YOU KNOW, ORIGINAL PURPOSE.

THINK OF A WATER HEATER THAT NO LONGER IS BUSTED, DOESN'T WORK, BUT SOMEONE MIGHT BUY IT FOR A FEW BUCKS TO MAKE A BARBECUE PIT.

THEN THERE'S PROPERTY LIKE WE DISCUSSED BEFORE, THAT DOESN'T MEAN ANY OF THAT.

THE DEFINITIONS THAT THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE GIVES EXPLICITLY SAYS, EXCEPT FOR ITEMS ROUTINELY DISCARDED IS WASTE.

WHAT WE MIGHT HAVE CALLED EXPENDABLE PROPERTY OR CONSUMABLE PROPERTY OR JUNK.

THAT WAS WHAT AUSTIN WANTED TO CALL IT.

THEY DON'T PROVIDE A DEFINITION.

NO COURTS EVER GIVEN ONE.

THE CLOSEST THERE IS, IS AN ATTORNEY GENERAL OPINION FROM THIS YEAR THAT BASICALLY SAYS THAT'S UP FOR THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO DECIDE WHAT'S YOUR COUNTY CONSIDERS TO BE.

IMAN'S ROUTINELY DISCARDED AS WASTE.

AND YOU CAN DISPOSE OF THAT.

THAT'S WHAT THIS ORDER DOES.

IT'S REALLY SIMPLE.

IT GIVES THE COUNTY'S DEFINITION OF WHAT WE CALL JUNK.

THERE'S FIVE EXAMPLES HERE.

UM, FIRST ONE IS PERSONAL PROPERTY THAT'S CONSUMABLE OR EXPENDABLE AND NATURED.

SO, AND HAS NO REASONABLE USE.

REMAINING MANING PINS RUN OUT.

YOU HAVE OIL FILTERS.

I MEAN LOTS OF THINGS ARE GONNA FIT THAT DEFINITION.

SECOND ONE, PERSONAL PROPERTY IS MARKED BY THE PRODUCER MANUFACTURER WITH AN EXPIRATION DATE.

IT'S PAST THAT DATE AND IT CLEARLY IS, YOU KNOW, NOT GOOD FOR SAFE WELL OR UTILITY RELIABILITY.

I MEAN, A TWO MONTH EXPIRED INK PRINTER PROBABLY STILL GOOD, BUT IF WE HAD TWO YEAR OLD FOOD STUFF THAT EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT WAS STORING FOR A DISASTER, MAYBE THAT MIGHT NOT BE, THIS WOULD AUTHORIZE THEM TO GET RID OF THAT.

IF IN COMMON SENSE SAYS WE DON'T WANNA STORE THAT NO MORE.

THIRD ONES PRINTING MATERIALS INCLUDING SOFT BOUND BOOKS MANUALS WHEN SUCH MATERIALS HAVE BEEN OUTDATED.

A LOT OF US HAVE THESE DIFFERENT LAW BOOKS, THESE SOFT BOUND BOOKS.

THEY'RE ONLY AS GOOD AS THEY'RE IN THE CURRENT.

THERE'S NO MARKET FOR THESE THINGS WHEN THEY'RE OLD.

THAT'S COMMON SENSE.

NUMBER FOUR IS PERSONAL PROPERTY.

WHEN IT'S NON-FUNCTIONAL IT'S UNDER $50.

SO REPLACEMENT VALUE.

SO THAT IS CLEARLY, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE STAPLER OR THE DRILL BITS.

BROKEN SHOVEL.

EXACTLY.

I MEAN IT'S, THE FACT IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA TAKE MORE TIME TO TRANSPORT AND STORE AND AUCTION THIS THAN IT WOULD BE JUST TO REPLACE IT.

OUR, OUR STAFF TIME IS VALUABLE.

IT WAS PRESENT PRESENTATIONS EARLIER ABOUT COST RISING COSTS OF STAFF.

SO THAT JUST, IF IT'S UNDER 50 BUCKS AND YOU JUST NEED TO GET A NEW ONE, JUST THROW IT AWAY.

AND THEN THE FIFTH ONE RECOGNIZES

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FOR INSTANCE, YOU MAY HAVE A HUNDRED DOLLARS DRILL BIT.

WE WOULD NORMALLY TRY TO OPTION THAT.

FAIR ENOUGH.

CUZ MAYBE IT'S A DIAMOND CAR BUY, BUT IF YOU SNAP IT IN HALF, NO ONE'S GONNA BUY IT .

OR IF YOU HAD A PIECE OF FURNITURE THAT GOT WET AND A FLOOD AND THAT PARTICLE BOARD EXPANDED AND IT'S JUST COLLAPSING.

WELL, I MEAN AN OLD DESK THAT WAS JUST KIND OF SCRATCHED, SOMEONE MIGHT BUY.

BUT IF IT'S FALLING APART, NO ONE'S GONNA BUY THAT.

NUMBER FIVE JUST SAYS, HEY, GET WITH PURCHASING.

GET 'EM, SEND ME AN EMAIL.

THAT'S JUST, THAT'S TRASH.

THAT JUST CREATES A LITTLE BIT OF A PAPER TRAIL, YOU KNOW, TO PROTECT COUNTY ASSETS.

WE THINK THAT THIS GAVE Y'ALL THE MIDDLE GROUND Y'ALL WANTED.

UM, OUR RESEARCH ALSO DID LOOK TO OTHER COUNTIES AND THERE WAS A WIDE RANGE.

YOU HAD SOME COUNTIES THAT LITERALLY DID TRANSPORT EVERYTHING INCLUDING BROKEN STAPLERS TWO OH WAREHOUSE AUCTION IT.

AND IF IT DIDN'T SELL, GO BACK TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND GET A ORDER.

THAT PROCEDURE'S LAWFUL.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL WANTED.

AND I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S CERTAINLY NOTHING THAT REQUIRES THAT.

OTHER COUNTIES BASICALLY JUST HAD NOTHING WRITTEN AND THEY JUST SAID IF IT'S UNDER 50 BUCKS, THEY JUST KIND OF THROW IT AWAY.

WE THINK THAT HAVING IT WRITTEN AND IN ORDER FROM THE COURTS THE PROPER ROUTE.

AND WE PRESENTED THAT OPTION TO YOU TODAY.

ANY QUESTIONS MAKE SENSE TO ME? MM-HMM.

, THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS.

IS THERE A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE THAT ORDER IS PRESENTED IN ITEM 15? NO MOVE.

WE HAVE A MOTION IN COMMISSIONER CASE.

IS THERE A SECOND? ONE SECOND.

COMMISSIONER BARBER DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

OPPOSE? NO.

AND THAT MOTION CARRIES.

NEXT UP, JACK SEBASTIAN DISCUSSED, CONSIDERED REJECTING ALL BIDS RELATED TO THE 2301 ANNUAL COST FOR ROAD REPAIRS AND OVERLAY ON ROAD AND PRECINCT FOUR ROAD AND BRIDGE.

GENTLE.

[16. Jack Sebastian; Discuss/Consider rejecting all bids related to Bid 23-01 Annual Contract for Road Repairs/Asphalt Overlay for Pet. 4 Road & Bridge.]

UH, GENTLEMEN, THIS IS ONE WE HAD ON THE BOARD, ADAM, ON THE, UH, UH, AGENDA A COUPLE TIMES.

AND, UH, MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO, TO, UH, REJECT ALL.

AND I THINK WE HAVE A DIFFERENT PLAN.

SO MO GOING FORWARD.

SO I I'LL RECOMMEND WE DO THAT.

QUESTIONS? UH, IS THERE A MOTION TO REJECT ALL BIDS ON 2301 AS PRESENTED? SO MOVE, WE HAVE THAT MOTION.

COMMISSIONER KATES.

COMMISSIONER BARBARA, DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY THE SAYING.

OPPOS? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

17, DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING A PROPOSAL UNDER THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES FOR FREEA NICHOLS TO CONDUCT INUNDATION STUDIES ON HIGH AND SIGNIFICANT HAZARD DAMS AS REQUIRED BY T C U Q FOR APPROVAL.

[17. Jack Sebastian; Discuss/Consider approving a proposal under Professional Services for Freese & Nichols to conduct inundation studies on High and Significant Hazard Dams as required by TCEQ for approval of Dam EAP. ]

DAM E A P, EMERGENCY ACTION PLAN.

JUDGE STEVE HERE.

HE'S, HE'S THE EXPERT ON THIS.

I'M GONNA LET HIM SPEAK TO THAT.

ARE YOU AN EXPERT ON THAT, STEVE? NEVERMIND.

DON'T ANSWER THAT.

I'M NOT GONNA ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

HEY, STEVE, WHILE YOU'RE TALKING, THESE, THESE NEXT THREE OR FOUR, ARE THEY ALL TIED IN TOGETHER? YES, SIR.

CAN YOU TIE IT ALL IN TOGETHER TO ME SO I'LL UNDERSTAND WHAT'S COMING DOWN THE PI HERE? I WILL TRY TO TIE 'EM ALL TOGETHER AT ONE TIME.

IT'S SUPPOSED TO EXPIRE ON THE 31ST OF THIS MONTH.

HOPEFULLY THAT WILL HELP.

UM, APPARENTLY, UH, THE COUNTY HAS A LOT OF, A LOT OF THESE, UH, SOIL CONSERVATION DAMS, WATER CONTROL.

UH, WE'VE GOT SOME MONEY TIED UP IN REPAIRING, I BELIEVE IT IS SITE NUMBER 10 DOWN NEAR WARSAW.

UH, TO BE ABLE TO KEEP FROM HAVING TO SPEND $12 MILLION ON OUR PART OF THE REPAIRS, WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS EMERGENCY ACTION PLAN AS REQUIRED BY T C E Q.

UH, YOU APPROVED THIS, UH, EARLIER THIS YEAR NOT TO EXCEED $50,000.

AND THAT WAS BASED UPON THEIR ASSUMPTION THAT MOST EVERYTHING WOULD BE ALREADY THERE FOR TITLE BASIN TO PICK UP AND CARRY ON WITH THE PROGRAM.

AND IT WAS NOT.

SO THEY SPENT EXTRA TIME AND EFFORT AND MONEY TO GET IT UP TO WHERE IT IS NOW.

UH, AND SO DOING ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR T C Q IS AN INUNDATION STUDY FOR ALL OF THE HIGH HAZARD AND SIGNIFICANT HAZARD DAMS. AND THAT'S WHAT IS CONS UNDER THE, UH, FREEZING NICKELS.

PART OF THIS, UH, AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND PUT IT IN THERE, THAT AS PART OF THIS, UH, TITLE BASIN WHO'S DOING THE PLAN, NEEDS AN ADDITIONAL $39,765 TO PAY FOR ALL THE WORK TO COMPLETE THE PLAN, WHICH WILL INCLUDE THE INUNDATION STUDY.

UH, THE OTHER PART OF THIS IS THAT THIS IS TIED INTO A MASTER SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH TITLE BASIN.

THAT IT WAS DONE IN 2021, I BELIEVE.

UM,

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WE NEED TO EXTEND THAT SIX MONTHS IN ORDER TO GET THIS IN, I THINK ONE AND MAYBE TWO OTHER PROJECTS COMPLETED.

SO IN A NUTSHELL, WE NEED TO EXTEND SERVICE AGREEMENTS FOR THE MASTER PLAN, THE, UH, ONE FOR THE EMERGENCY ACTION PLAN, AND ALSO, UH, WE'LL NEED TO APPROVE THE ADDITIONAL, UH, TASK ORDER FOR 39,765 AND, UH, THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES FOR FRIES AND NICKELS TO DO THE INUNDATION STUDY.

AND IF IT'S NOT BEFORE YOU, IT IS $310,000 FOR THE INUNDATION STUDY.

AND WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE HERE FROM FREEZING NICHOLS TO EXPLAIN THAT.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM HIM.

I THINK AN IMPORTANT FACTOR TO MENTION, IF IT'S THE SAME THING THAT I HEARD EARLIER, IS THAT, THAT THAT CAN BE DONE OVER THE COST OF THAT 300 GRAND CAN BE SPREAD OUT OVER THREE, THREE BUDGET YEARS.

THREE BUDGET YEARS.

UH, TWO YEARS.

BUT IT WILL COVER THREE BUDGET YEARS.

SO IT WON'T BE A BIG HIT ALL AT ONCE AND WE CAN SPREAD IT OUT.

AND THAT'S THE FEES FOR FREEZING NICKELS.

YES, SIR.

SO IT'S GONNA TAKE THREE YEARS TO GET THE STUDY DONE.

TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS, BUT THREE BUDGET YEARS.

I KNOW.

I HAVE TO KEEP THINKING ABOUT THAT WHEN I SAY IT.

WELL, I WAS TRYING TO PUT ALL THE LINE ITEMS TOGETHER, SON.

OKAY, SO WE'RE ON ITEM 17.

UH, JACK, UH, VERY SMOOTHLY BUMPED THAT OVER TO STEVE.

UH, AND THE ITEM IS DISCUSSED, CONSIDERED APPROVING A PROPOSAL AND A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES FOR FE NICHOLS TO CONDUCT INTRODUCTION INUNDATION STUDIES ON HIGH AND SIGNIFICANT DAMS AS REQUIRED BY T C UQ.

UH, THERE NO QUESTIONS.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT PROPOSAL? AND WE HAVE THE MONEY HERE.

GUESS WE SPREAD IT OUT OVER THREE YEARS? I MEAN, THAT'S BE MY ACQUAINTANCY.

WHEN IS THE FIRST PAYMENT DUE? THAT'S WHEN IS THE FIRST A HUNDRED THOUSAND DUE? THE, UH, THE OPERATIVE THING TO CONSIDER IS THAT THIS IS A REQUISITE OF THE, UH, THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THAT ALLOWS THE COUNTY TO PARTICIPATE AT, UH, AS, AS THE SPONSOR AT A VASTLY DIMINISHED PERCENTAGE OF THE TOTAL COST OF THE RECLAMATION OF THESE, UH, HIGH HAZARD OR SIGNIFICANT HAZARD DAMS. UH, WITHOUT THESE, WITHOUT THIS STUDY, WHICH FEEDS INTO THE EMERGENCY ACTION PLAN, THEN WE'RE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR THE, FOR THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL GRANT, UM, MATCHING.

SO, UH, UH, AGAIN, IT IS, UH, IN THE LONG RUN IT IS FAR CHEAPER TO, YEAH.

TO, UH, GO FORWARD WITH THIS THAN IT WOULD BE TO TRY TO, UH, MAINTAIN OUR 30 OR 30 PLUS PERCENT SHARE OF THE SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS, UH, COST 12 MILLION.

12 MILLION IN COST.

SO IT'D BE OBLIGATED FOR LIKE 3 MILLION, I MEAN THREE, THREE OR 4 MILLION.

YEAH, SIR.

AT A MINIMUM.

UH, AND, AND THERE'S REALLY NO OPTION BECAUSE, UH, UH, UH, SITE 10, WHICH IS, UH, THE, THE CURRENT SIGNIFICANT HAZARD, UM, DEVELOPMENT OVER THE DECADES SINCE THOSE FOOT CONTROL DAMS GOT PUT IN, IN THE FORTIES AND FIFTIES, UH, THEY'RE JUST, IT'S JUST NOT POSSIBLE NOT TO ADDRESS THE, THE IMMINENT FAILURE OF THESE DAMS. SO, SO REALLY, I I WOULD JUST COMMENT THAT THERE'S REALLY, UH, THIS MAKES PERFECT FISCAL SENSE DESPITE THE FACT THAT IT DOES COST US SOME MONEY UP FRONT.

AND SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, JUDGE.

SO COMMISSIONER KATE'S MOVED TO APPROVE THAT PROPOSAL AND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES FOR FRIESEN NICHOLS.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL.

COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSION ON, ON THE, ON THE PRETENSE THAT WE DO HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY THE THIRD HAVE TO PAY IT.

I'M, I'M JUST ASKING WHERE IT COMES FROM.

I'LL HAVE TO HIT FUND BALANCE FART CAUSE I DON'T HAVE IT ANYWHERE ELSE.

WELL, YOU HAVE, YOU STILL HAVE CONTINGENCY, RIGHT? NOT IF YOU PROVE THOSE OTHER TWO AGENDA ITEMS. I'M NOT WELL THAT'S, WE DON'T HAVE THAT OBJECTION TO WHAT I'M SAYING.

CAUSE I MEAN, I AGREE 10% WHAT COMMISSIONER KATES IS SAYING.

I MEAN THIS IS SAVING US A LOT OF MONEY TO GET THE GRANT MONEY, BUT WE NEED, STILL NEED TO COME UP WITH OUR THIRD RIGHT NOW THAT THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF FUND BALANCE FOR THESE UNEXPECTED YEAH.

ISSUES.

SO YOUR SECOND STANCE, YES,

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IS, UH, ANY MORE DISCUSSION? THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY THE SAYING AYE.

UP, BACK TO JACK, DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING TITLE BASED ON TASK ORDER TB, TB G CRAN COUNTY.

[18. Jack Sebastian; Discuss/Consider approving Tidal Basin Task Order TBGC-Kaufman County T04-22NOV22 not to exceed $39,765.00. ]

I'M NOT GONNA READ THAT.

NOT TO EXCEED $39,765.

WE'VE ALREADY COVERED THIS.

I THINK I'M MIGHT GET, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT TASK ORDER IS PRESENTED.

SO MOVED.

WE HAVE THAT MOTION ON COMMISSIONER KATE.

COMMISSIONER BARBARA, DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

OPPOSED? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES JUDGE OBJECT IT UPDATED FORM THERE.

I'LL GIVE YOU WHAT, DON'T TALK TO ME LIKE THAT.

, OUR TITLE BASED CONTRACT IS, IS INCLUDED IN THE A RPA MONEY VERSUS 39,000 COMING FROM FUND BALANCE TOO.

UH, I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT.

[19. Jack Sebastian; Discuss/Consider amending/extending Tidal Basin Task Order TBGC-Kaufman County TOl07-01-2021.]

19.

UH, DISCUSS, CONSIDER AMENDING EXTENDING TITLE BASIN TASK ORDER T B G C, KAUFMAN COUNTY.

WITH THAT FOLLOWING NU NUMBERS, UH, STEVE BRIEFED US ON THAT.

UH, THEIR CONTRACT ENDS THIS YEAR.

SO WE, IF WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO HAVE THEM DO THIS WORK, WE HAVE TO EXTEND THEIR TASK ORDER.

ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? IS THERE A MOTION TO EXTEND THAT TASK ORDER AS PRESENTED? SO MOVED.

WE HAVE MOTION COMMISSIONER KATES.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

WE'RE

[20. Jack Sebastian; Discuss/Consider extending Tidal Basin Master Services Agreement until June 30, 2023]

GONNA WEAR YOU OUT.

JACK.

ITEM 20, DISCUSS, CONSIDER EXTENDING TITLED BASIN MASTER SERVICES AGREEMENT UNTIL JUNE 30TH, 2023.

AND JUDGE, THAT'S JUST THE MASTER AGREEMENT THAT WAS ORIGINALLY, UH, SIGNED OFF ON THAT.

JUST EXTENDING THAT TO THAT WHERE THE DATES ALL MATCH UP.

AND THIS ISN'T A COST ITEM AT THIS POINT, RIGHT? UH, YOU ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO EXTEND TITLE, BASE AND MASTER SERVICES AGREEMENT UNTIL JUNE 20, JUNE 30TH, 23? I'LL MOVE.

WE HAVE THAT MOTION.

COMMISSIONER KADES.

COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSION.

LAURA HUGHES DISCUSS, CONSIDER AWARD OF CONTRACT, UH, TO CO PROFILE SERVICES INC.

[21. Jack Sebastian/Laura Hughes; Discuss/Consider Award of Contract to Kofile Services, Inc. in the amount $485,223.70 for Kaufman County Clerk Preservation and Indexing of Records utilizing TXMAS Contract 18- 3602]

AND THE AMOUNT OF $485,223 FOR KAUFFMAN COUNTY CLERK PRESERVATION AND INDEXING RECORD USING TEXT MASK CONTRACT 18 36 0 2.

AND JUDGE, THAT'S THE STATE CONTRACT.

SO I, I'LL MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION.

QUESTIONS IF FOR NO QUESTIONS.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT CONTRACT IS PRESENTED? MAKE THAT MOTION.

THE MOTION.

COMMISSIONER BARBER.

DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFIED BY SAYING AYE.

LAST, LAST FOR JACK, DISCUSS, CONSIDER AWARDING PROPOSAL FROM TEXAS BIT TO MAKE REPAIRS TO COUNTY ROAD 4 0 11 IN PRECINCT FOUR PER INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH DALLAS COUNTY AND JUDGE.

PROPOSE? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

[22. Jack Sebastian; Discuss/Consider awarding proposal from Texas Bit to make repairs to County Road 4011 in Pet. 4, per interlocal agreement with Dallas County]

THIS IS A DALLAS COUNTY, UH, CONTRACT THAT WE UTILIZE AND THIS IS REPLACING THE, UH, UH, ITEM THAT WE JUST, UH, UH, REJECTED THE BIDS.

AND THE TOTAL AMOUNT IS $321,077 AND 97 CENTS.

AND QUESTIONS? I'LL MAKE A REPUTATION.

YOU RECO.

I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION DISCUSSION.

YOU RECOMMEND APPROVAL? IS THERE SEC? IS THERE A MOTION JUDGE? I'LL MAKE THIS, UH, MOTION TO APPROVE.

THIS IS, UH, IS A COUNTY ROAD THAT FREQUENTLY IS INUNDATED WITH WATER AS WE APPROACH THE TRUE RAINY SEASON.

UH, YEAH, WE ALMOST ALWAYS HAVE TO CLOSE THIS ROAD DESPITE THE FACT THAT, UM, I DON'T KNOW, A HUNDRED RESIDENTS LIVE ON IT.

AND, UH, AS A CONSEQUENCE OF THE, OF THE, UH, AREA, EVERY YEAR THE CHIP SEAL WASHES OUT THE, THE, THE ROAD IS IN CONSTANT NEED OF REPAIR.

UH, ASPHALT IS REQUIRED TO MAKE IT, UH, SERVICEABLE AND PASSABLE.

UH, AND, UH, JUST POINT OUT THAT, UH, THIS ITEM HAS GONE BACK AND FORTH.

AND, UH, FINALLY WE'RE BACK WITH, UH, A BID THAT IS WITHIN A FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS OF THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL, UH, OF A LOCAL KAUFFMAN COUNTY VENDOR.

BUT, UH, TEXAS BID IS SLIGHTLY, UH, SLIGHTLY CHEAPER AND SO OUGHT TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

UH, THAT WAS GOOD TO GO BACK TO THAT DALLAS COUNTY THING.

I THINK THAT'S WORKED OUT REALLY WELL FOR US.

SO, UH, SO THAT, THAT'S A MOTION COMMISSIONER CASE FOR APPROVAL.

AWARDING THAT PROPOSAL OR TAKES HIS BIT IS THEIR SECOND.

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COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS? NO.

THOSE OPPOS? NO.

COMMISSIONER HUNT? I SAID NO.

OH.

COMMISSIONER BARBER? NO.

UH, THE MOTION FAILS.

[23. Sheriff Beavers; Discuss/Consider approving the deputation of Jessica E Shine as Deputy Sheriff for Kaufman County Sheriffs Office]

UH, ITEM 23, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT DISCUSSED, CONSIDER APPROVING THE DEGRADATION OF JESSICA CHEEN AS DEPUTY SHERIFF FOR KAUFMAN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

HELLO, COMMISSIONERS.

WE'RE REQUESTING DATION OF JESSICA SHINE.

SHE'S 38 YEAR OLD.

SHE JUST GRADUATED DALLAS COLLEGE, CEDAR VALLEY LAW ENFORCEMENT ACADEMY.

AND WE REQUEST TO HER, SHE ALSO LIVES HERE IN KAUFMAN COUNTY.

QUESTIONS? JUST GRADUATED IN DALLAS COUNTY.

OR DALLAS CITY? DALLAS COLLEGE.

CEDAR VALLEY LAW ENFORCEMENT ACADEMY.

I GOT, I WAS GONNA SAY .

OTHER QUESTIONS? OTHER QUESTIONS? UHUH FOR NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT DEPUTIZATION IS PRESENTED? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

THE MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE, AND WE HAVE WITH US THE HONORABLE KEITH BELL TO TALK TO US ABOUT SOMETHING BETTER WITH ME.

UH, BEFORE WE GO ON, THANK YOU HONOR, I PROMISE Y'ALL THAT WE HAD SOME ROUTINE COR DELAYED

[1. ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE (Part 2 of 2)]

GOT A NEW APPRECIATION FOR COMMISSIONER BARBER.

JUDGE, THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS, UH, FOR GIVING ME A LITTLE PERSONAL PRIVILEGE AND TIME TODAY.

BUT, UH, I DID, UH, WANT TO HONOR A COUPLE OF PEOPLE, UM, FOR THEIR PUBLIC SERVICE.

AND, UH, IF YOU'LL GIVE ME A LITTLE BIT OF LATITUDE HERE, I'D LIKE TO READ A SPEECH THAT HANGS IN MY OFFICE.

MY WIFE BOUGHT IT FOR ME WHEN I GOT SWORN IN THE SECOND TIME.

AND MANY OF YOU PROBABLY HAVE HEARD OF THE ROOSEVELT'S THEODORE ROOSEVELT'S SPEECH IN 1910.

AND THEY CALL IT, IT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST QUOTED SPEECHES EVER.

THE MAN IN THE ARENA.

WHAT IT WAS ACTUALLY, HE TITLED IT WAS CITIZENSHIP AND A REPUBLIC OF WHICH, YOU KNOW, THE UNITED STATES IS, I'M GONNA READ IT RIGHT QUICK CUZ I THINK IT'S TO RECOGNIZE THE FOLKS THAT SERVE AND THOSE THAT ARE MOVING ON TO OTHER, OTHER THINGS.

UM, I LOOK AT THE WHAT HAS OCCURRED OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS.

I, UH, OR I'VE BEEN IN OFFICE.

UM, SOME OF YOU CAME IN, YOU TWO, UH, JUDGE RICHARDS AND COMMISSIONER KATES CAME IN WITH ME.

WE RAN IN THE SAME PRIMARY TOGETHER.

AND, UH, THERE'S ALWAYS PLENTY OF CHOICES, BUT YOU KNOW, ONLY A FEW STEP UP TO DO THE WORK.

AND MANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME, MR. HUNT, MR. PHILLIPS, BARBARA YOU'VE SERVED, AND THERE'S OTHERS, SHERIFF AND OTHERS THAT ARE BEHIND ME THAT DO THAT.

THIS IS WHAT THEODORE ROOSEVELT SAID.

IT'S NEITHER CRITIC WHO COUNTS.

NOT THE MAN WHO POINTS OUT HOW THE STRONG MAN STUMBLES OR WHERE THE DOER OF DEEDS COULD HAVE DONE THEM.

BETTER CREDIT BELONGS TO THE MAN WHO'S ACTUALLY IN THE ARENA, WHOSE FACE IS MARRED BY THE DUST AND SWEAT AND BLOOD WHO STRIVES V VIOLENTLY, WHO AIRS, WHO COMES SHORT AGAIN AND AGAIN BECAUSE THERE'S NO EFFORT WITHOUT AIR AND SHORTCOMING.

BUT WHO DOES ACTUALLY STRIVE TO DO THE DEEDS? WHO KNOWS? GREAT ENTHUSIASMS, THE GREAT DEVOTIONS AND WHO SPENDS HIMSELF IN A WORTHY CAUSE? WHO AT THE BEST KNOWS IN THE END OF THE TRI OF HIGH ACHIEVEMENT AND WHO AT THE WORST, IF HE FAILS, AT LEAST FAILS WHILE DARING GREATLY SO THAT HIS PLACE SHALL NEVER BE WITH THOSE COLD AND TIMID SOULS WHO NEITHER KNOW VICTORY NOR DEFEAT FITTING.

I THANK FOR A PUBLIC SERVANT, WHETHER YOU'VE SERVED FOR FIVE MINUTES OR 50 YEARS, SO FEW TODAY, STEP UP WITH SOCIAL MEDIA.

WE TAKE THE BEATINGS EVERY DAY AND PLENTY OF DETRACTORS, PLENTY OF THOSE THAT THINK WE MAY OR MAY NOT DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

BUT EVEN WHEN WE FELL, WE FELL FORWARD BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT A LEADER DOES BEGIN, HENRY FORD SAID, BEGINS AGAIN MORE INTELLIGENTLY OVER AND OVER.

SO I, I WILL TELL YOU THOUGH, YOU GUYS ARE MOVING ON TO DO GRANDKIDS OR CONSULTING OR MORE GRANDKIDS, I JUST WANT TO COME IN YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, FOR

[01:25:01]

YOUR SACRIFICE, BECAUSE IT IS A SACRIFICE.

YOUR FAMILY, YOU'VE SACRIFICED, YOU'RE IN INCOMES HAVE SACRIFICED YOUR FAMILY, YOUR WIVES, YOUR CHILDREN, YOUR GRANDCHILDREN, BECAUSE IT'S TIME.

UH, YOU ONLY GOT 20.

MY MOTHER ALWAYS TOLD ME WHEN I DIDN'T CALL HER OFTEN ENOUGH, SHE'D TELL ME THAT, YOU KNOW, KEITH, EVERYBODY GOT SAME 24 HOURS IN A DAY.

YOU CHOOSE HOW YOU'RE GOING TO USE THAT.

AND FOR A LOT OF US, WE, WE WORK A LOT OF HOURS TO DO WHAT WE DO.

AND IT'S A CALLING.

I MEAN, BEING A PUBLIC SERVANT, YOU'RE, YOU'RE ANOINTED TO DO THAT.

AND JUST LIKE A LEADER, LEADERS ARE BORN.

I MEAN, YOU POLISHED LEADERSHIP, BUT YOU EITHER GOT IT OR YOU DIDN'T.

AND IT'S A GIFT OF GOD.

AND SO THANK Y'ALL FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE AND FOR THAT, I'VE GOT A SMALL TOKEN OF MY APPRECIATION AND A CERTIFICATE FROM MY OFFICE FOR BOTH OF YOU FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS HOUSE REPRESENTATIVES OR CERTIFICATE OF CONGRATULATIONS AWARDED EACH OF YOU AN HONOR FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE KAUFMAN COUNTY AND WITNESS THEY'RE HERE OF AND PURSUANT TO THE AUTHORITY VESTED IN ME UP HERE ON TWO, SET MY HAND AND SEAL OF THE OFFICE OF AUSTIN TEXAS'S, 13TH DAY OF DECEMBER, 2022 TO RECOGNIZE YOUR PUBLIC SERVANT.

SO WITH THAT, I'D GIVE YOU A HAND FOR ALL OF SERVICE.

YOU'D LET ME PRESENT THESE TO YOU.

LET'S GO ADAM, JUDGE AND, AND MR. CADES, I'D CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT HONOR.

CAN YOU GET ME? YES, SIR.

STAND RIGHT HERE.

DID Y'ALL STAND? JUDGE? THANK YOU FOR THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU GOT PEER SERVICE TO YOUR THANK YOU KEITH.

YOU WANT IT? HOW ABOUT MY MOM WAS HERE AND EVERYTHING.

YEAH, WE GOT TWO CAMERAS HERE TOO.

AND THAT WAS KEITH.

OH YEAH, THAT'S YOURS, .

PERFECT.

THANK YOU JUDGE.

APPRECIATE, APPRECIATE.

THANK YOU, SIR.

APPRECIATE YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

APPRECIATE THANK YOU AGAIN.

MERRY YOU TOO.

24, COMMISSIONER CASE, DISCUSS AND APPROVE A BUDGET AMENDMENT AND ASSOCIATED CALCULATIONS TO AUTHORIZE THE ADJUSTMENT AND PAYMENT TO ALL NON-ELECTED COUNTY, NON-ELECTED COUNTY EMPLOYEES FOR ONE WEEK OF THE SALARY INCREASE AMOUNT ESTABLISHED IN THE 2023 BUDGET.

[24. Commissioner Gates; Discuss and approve a budget amendment and associated calculations to authorize the adjustment and payment to all non-elected County employees of one week of the salary increase amount established in the 2023 budget but that was not paid for the first week of October, 2022 due to the pay period being split.]

BUT THAT WAS NOT PAID FOR THE FIRST WEEK IN OCTOBER 22 DUE TO THE PAY PERIOD BEING SPLIT.

COMMISSIONER YEAH, JUDGE, I WAS APPROACHED BY A NUMBER OF OUR COUNTY EMPLOYEES, UH, THAT FELT, UH, THAT IT WAS INAPPROPRIATE THAT WHILE THE NEW SALARY STRUCTURE WENT INTO EFFECT ON OCTOBER THE FIRST, THAT DUE TO OUR SOMEWHAT, UH, OUTDATED AND ANTIQUATED, UH, SOFTWARE, NOT ABLE TO, UH, SPLIT THE PAY PERIOD.

SO, UH, IT JUST SEEMED APPROPRIATE THAT SINCE, SINCE THE, UH, OVERARCHING, UH, INTENT OF THE PAY INCREASES WAS TO TAKE CARE OF OUR PEOPLE AS A PHRASE I HEARD QUITE A BIT.

UH, AFTER, AS I SAID, BEING CONTACTED BY A NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES, IT OCCURRED TO ME THAT IT WOULD BE WORTHY OF CONSIDERATION, UH, PARTICULARLY HERE AT THE THIS TIME OF YEAR THAT WE, UH, WE ACTUALLY HONOR THE SALARY THAT WE ORDERED, UH, INCREASED.

SO THIS, UH, THIS ITEM WAS AUTHORIZED, UH, UH, DESPITE THE FACT THAT IT TAKES, IT'S GONNA TAKE QUITE A BIT OF WORK BY THE PAYROLL OFFICE, BY THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE.

UH, IT'S EXTRA WORK.

THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.

AND IT'S CERTAINLY EXTRA FUNDING.

UH, I, I, UH, I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER I'M GONNA GUESSTIMATE.

IT'S, UH, NORTH OF 200,000, UH, TO HONOR THIS ONE WEEK OF ADJUSTED SALARY.

UM, AND, UH, AND WHILE I RECOGNIZE THAT BURDEN AS WELL AS THE BURDEN OF COMPUTATION, UM, OUR EMPLOYEES ARE, ARE ALWAYS BURDENED.

UH, OUR ROAD AND BRIDGE GUYS ARE OUT ON HOLIDAYS, UH, IN KNEE DEEP WATER CLEARING CULVERTS AT NIGHT, UH, IN RAINSTORMS. UM, OUR CLERKS ARE WORK

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WEEKENDS TO PACK RECORDS FOR MOVES.

OUR, UH, OUR, UH, FACILITIES PERSONNEL ARE WORKING ON WEEKENDS TO FACILITATE THE, THE SHIFT TO THE NEW JUSTICE CENTER.

OUR, OBVIOUSLY OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT GUYS ARE OUT CONSTANTLY.

UM, OUR EMPLOYEES GO ABOVE AND BEYOND, UM, UH, THINGS THAT OFTEN EXCEED THEIR JOB DESCRIPTION.

WE, FOR INSTANCE, PRECINCT FOUR WAS OUT DURING THE LAST BIG FREEZE, UH, DRIVING OUR DUMP TRUCKS TO FORT WORTH TO BRING BACK WATER FOR CITIES THAT HAD NO WATER.

SO, UH, I JUST FELT IT WAS APPROPRIATE TO BRING IT TO THE COURT FOR CONSIDERATION TO, UH, TO, UH, MAKE THE NECESSARY COMPUTATIONS AND AUTHORIZED PAYMENT FOR, FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.

I SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDED ELECTED OFFICIAL FROM THIS PARTICULAR COMPUTATION.

COMPUTATION.

UH, I THINK IT'S, UH, IT'S NO SECRET THAT I FELT THAT THE ELECTED OFFICIAL RAISES THAT WERE APPROVED, UH, IN THE 2023 BUDGET WERE EXCESSIVE.

SO MY MOTION TO SELECTIVELY EXCLUDES ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS FROM THIS COMPUTATION.

BUT OUR RANK AND FILE EMPLOYED EMPLOYEES, IN MY OPINION, DESERVE THIS EXTRA, UH, THIS EXTRA PAY.

AND IT IS JUST THE INCREASE FOR ONE WEEK.

SO I'D MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT AS WRITTEN AND TO INSTRUCT THE COMPUTATION AND PAYMENT OF THAT AMOUNT.

WELL, UH, YOU KNOW, I I AGREE A HUNDRED PERCENT EVERYTHING YOU SAID ABOUT THE EMPLOYEES AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, BECAUSE THERE ARE A PARAMOUNT AND, AND, AND THERE WERE SOME DISCUSSIONS EARLY ON RIGHT AFTER THE PAY RAISES WENT TO EFFECT.

AND I STARTED ASKING SOME QUESTIONS WHY? AND THEN IT WAS POINTED OUT AND I REMEMBERED WHEN I GOT MY QUESTIONS ANSWERED.

WE ACTUALLY ADDRESSED THIS IN THE BUDGET PROCESS.

WE WERE ACTUALLY TOLD WHAT I'LL DO BECAUSE OF THE SOFTWARE PROBLEMS AND STUFF, WE'LL START IT AT THE END OF THE PAY CYCLE.

AND WE ALL AGREED AS A COURT TO DO THAT.

SO, AND WHATEVER WE DECIDE, I MEAN, WE'VE ALREADY DECIDED ONCE TO DO IT ONE WAY.

IF WE DECIDE TO DO IT THIS WAY, THAT'S FINE TOO, BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT WAS DECIDED BY THE COURT HOW WE WERE GONNA PUT THE, THE PAY RATES INTO EFFECT AND UH, YOU KNOW, CAUSE WE DID HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.

SO, UH, OKAY.

SO I WAS TOLD THIS MORNING, I THINK OUR LAWYER TOLD US THAT WE HAD THE MONEY IN EACH BUDGET FOR THAT.

IS THAT CORRECT? NO, SIR.

YOU DO NOT.

BECAUSE WHEN WE DO THE BUDGET, WE PUT A FULL YEAR'S WITH THE ACCRUAL, MODIFIED ACCRUAL BASIS ACCORDING TO GASBY, I HAVE TO BACK IN THE LAST FEW DAYS OF SEPTEMBER.

THAT WOULD BE ATTACHED TO OCTOBER.

UM, MR. LONG THAT WORKS IN THE TREASURE'S OFFICE.

DID A, UH, PRELIMINARY SPREADSHEET.

CARLA IS CHECKING IT SO THAT WE CAN AGREE ON WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO.

THE THREE OF US GOT TOGETHER AND WE FIGURED A WAY BECAUSE IT AFFECTS BASE PAY SALARY, IT AFFECTS LONGEVITY, IT AFFECTS STEP PAY, IT AFFECTS SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDICARE, AND RETIREMENT.

AND I DIDN'T LEAVE ANYBODY OUT.

I NEED A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO COVER IT IF THE NUMBERS ARE RIGHT.

I HAVEN'T REVIEWED THEM.

SHE'S DOING HER SECOND REVIEW NOW TO MAKE SURE I INCLUDED EVERYBODY BECAUSE YOU MADE EFFECTIVE FOR OCTOBER 1ST, SOME ELECTED OFFICIALS SHOULD GET 'EM ALSO.

BUT THAT'S Y'ALL'S OPINION AND WHAT YOU WANTING US TO DO, WE'LL DO IT.

DO YOU HAVE A NUMBER FOR THE DIFFERENCE IF WE BACK OUT THE ELECTED OFFICIAL? NO, THE, THE, UH, UM, I GUESS MY QUESTION THOUGH IS STILL GOING TO COME BACK TO FUNDING WHAT WE HEARD IN THE PREVIOUS PART.

ARE WE GONNA HAVE ENOUGH FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS? IF THEIR NUMBERS ARE RIGHT AND WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ANYMORE, I'LL BE ABLE TO COVER IT.

IT'S GONNA WIPE OUT YOUR CONTINGENCY.

AND WE ALREADY HIT FUND BALANCE FOR 350 SOMETHING THOUSAND DOLLARS.

SO ON THE OTHER TWO THINGS, SO I'M JUST WANTING TO MAKE YOU AWARE.

I DON'T, DON'T CARE.

WHATEVER Y'ALL WANNA DO.

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WELL, AND THEN, AND I KNOW OVER THE WHOLE COUNTY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE POSITIONS THAT ARE GONNA STAY VACANT, POSITIONS THAT WILL, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE RETIRE AND IT MIGHT TAKE YOU TWO OR THREE WEEKS TO REPLACE THAT PERSON OR SO THERE'S GONNA BE SOME EXTRA MONEY THAT WON'T BE SPENT ON SALARIES AND BENEFITS BECAUSE OF VACANCIES FOR A PERIOD THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

YOU, YOU HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT WE HAVE TO PAY THEM OUT WHAT THEY HAVE ON THE BOOKS.

IF YOU LEAVE IN GOOD STANDING AND A LOT OF TIMES WE HAVE TO AMEND THE BUDGET TO COVER THAT FOR THAT DEPARTMENT HEAD OR ELECTED OFFICIAL.

BUT, BUT IN THE TOTAL WE ALWAYS END UP WITH A LOT OF UNSPENT SALARY MONEY.

CAN I JUST REMIND THE COURT THAT LAST YEAR IN FY 22 WE HAD ABOUT 4.2 MILLION OF UNSPENT TAXPAYER MONEY THAT ROLLED INTO THIS YEAR'S OPERATIONAL FUNDING.

UH, SO COMMISSIONER CAGE, WAS THAT A, I FORGET NOW.

WAS THAT A MOTION THAT YOU MADE? YES.

OH, OKAY.

A MOTION TO, OKAY.

UH, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS WRITTEN.

COMMISSIONER HUNT DISCUSSION.

SO WE HAVE THAT MOTION TO APPROVE AS WRITTEN ON ITEM 24.

COMMISSIONER CAGE.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT.

WE HAVE A SECOND.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO.

THAT MOTION CARRIES TO LEAVE OUT ELECTED OFFICIALS.

YES, THAT'S THE MOTION.

UH, ITEM

[25. Auditor; Discuss/Consider line-item and budget transfers/corrections]

25.

THE AUDITOR DISCUSSED LINE ITEM AND BUDGET TRANSFERS.

THESE WERE EMAILED TO YOU LAST WEEK FOR REVIEW.

MINOR ADJUSTMENTS.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO.

IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE LINE ITEM BUDGET TRANSFER.

IS THIS PRESENTED? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

THAT MOTION.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

COMMISSIONER CAGE DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR OF SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

ENTER FINANCIAL INFORMATION.

OPPOSED? NO.

THAT MOTION CARRIES ITEM 26,

[26. Auditor; Discuss/Consider claims for payment and/or Financial Information as provided by the County Auditor. ]

BACK TO THE AUDITOR.

DISCUSS, CONSIDER CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT.

IS THERE A MOTION? I'M SORRY, IS I HAVEN'T TOLD YOU YET.

YEAH, GO AHEAD.

ZERO FOR, OKAY, I'M HERE YET.

YOUR CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT ARE 1,000,400 $16,492 AND 63 CENTS.

A PAYROLL OF 1,000,600 $82,730 AND 22 CENTS.

TOTAL CLAIMS $3,099,222 AND 85 CENTS.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CLAIMS? IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT IS PRESENTED? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WE A MOTION COMMISSIONER.

BARBARA IS THE SECOND.

COMMISSIONER CAGE DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

OPPOSED? NO.

AYE THAT MOTION CARRIES.

UH, DISCUSS ITEM 27,

[27. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider exiting regular meeting and enter executive session]

DISCUSS.

CONSIDER EXITING REGULAR MEETING AND GOING TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

IS THERE A MOTION TO DO SO? SO MOVE WE HAVE THAT MOTION.

COMMISSIONER KATE.

COMMISSIONER BARBER DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51 0.087 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE TO DISCUSS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MATTER WITH THE CITY OF SEVILLE AND MEGA TILL HOMES.

OPPOSES? NO, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

WE ARE IN EXECUTIVE

[28. Executive Session; Pursuant to Section 551.087 of the Texas Government Code to discuss an economic development matter with the City of Seagoville/Megatel Homes.]

UM, WE'LL JUST STAY IN HERE GUYS.

STAY IN HERE.

YEAH, WE'LL STAY IN HERE.

IS THAT ALL RIGHT THERE BUDDY? YEP.

OKAY, FINE.

WE'RE GOOD.

I NEED A LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO

[29. Judge Richards; Discuss/Consider exiting executive session and enter regular meeting.]

EX TO LEAVE THE EXECUTIVE STATION AND COME BACK INTO REGULAR MEETING.

SO MOVE.

WE GOT THAT MOTION AND COMMISSIONER CASE.

COMMISSIONER BARBARA, DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

UHUH.

WE ARE BACK IN A REGULAR SESSION AND NO ACTION TAKEN IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

MOVING ON TO ITEM 31.

I'M, I'M SORRY, WE ACTUALLY COVERED ITEM 31 IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.

THAT WAS JUST THE PRESENTATION WE HEARD.

32, DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF PARTICIPATION IN JURORS NUMBER ONE WITH THE CITY OF SIEG EAGLEVILLE.

[32. Commissioner Cates; Discuss/Consider approval of participation in TIRZ # 1 with the City of Seagoville.]

IS THERE A MOTION JUDGE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS WRITTEN.

UH, COMMISSIONER KATES MOVES TO APPROVE PARTICIPATION IN THAT AGREEMENT AS PRESENTED.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT.

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFIED BY SAYING AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED? NO, NO, NO.

MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.

THAT MOTION DOESN'T CARRY.

NEXT ITEM 33.

[33. Adjourn Meeting]

WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

COMMISSIONER BARBARA, THAT MOTION WAS FOR COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER BARBER.

THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.