Jan 10, 2023 Commissioners Court

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ALL RIGHTY.

[Call to Order]

WE HAVE A FEW VISITORS OUT HERE THIS MORNING, AND, UH, WE'RE HERE FOR A REGULAR, REGULAR MEETING OF THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING ON TUESDAYS.

IT'S JANUARY THE 10TH, AND, UH, I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER TERRY IS GOING TO, I'M, UH, GOING TO GIVE US OUR, I KNOW YOU'RE STILL COMMISSIONER TERRY , BUT, UH, ALRIGHT.

I'LL SAY BARBARA.

THAT'LL MAKE HIM HAPPY.

I DON'T KNOW.

I'M SO USED TO CALLING HIM TERRY, YOU KNOW.

SO ANYWAY, COMMISSIONER BARBER AND, UH, COMMISSIONER HUNT WILL DO THE PLEDGES.

AND SO ANYWAY, IF EVERYBODY ARRIVES AND WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THIS.

YOU PRAY WITH ME, PLEASE.

HEAVENLY FATHER, WE WANNA THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY, THIS BEAUTIFUL WEATHER THAT WE'RE HAVING.

UH, WANNA ASK YOU TO BE WITH US ALL, UH, TODAY AND THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE WEEK.

UM, BE WITH US THIS MORNING AS WE MAKE DECISIONS, UH, FOR THE COUNTY, AND, UH, GIVE US THE WISDOM AND KNOWLEDGE WE NEED TO DO THE RIGHT THINGS.

UH, BE WITH US ALL AND KEEP US SAFE.

IN YOUR SON'S NAME WE PRAY, AMEN.

AMEN.

AMEN.

I PRAY WITH JESUS TO THE FLAG OF UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IN THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH HANDS? ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INVISIBLE LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR THE TEXAS FLAG, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INVISIBLE.

THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH.

LET'S SEE, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, WE'RE GATHERED HERE THIS MORNING IN THE ANNEX, IN THE COMMISSIONER'S COURTROOM IN KAUFFMAN, UH, FOR OUR REGULAR TUESDAY MEETING HELD HERE ON JANUARY 10TH, 2023 AT 9:00 AM.

UH, ANYWAY, WE'RE GONNA MOVE

[1. ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.]

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAS ANY ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE IN ANY PLACE OTHER THAN IT WAS PRETTY FOGGY THIS MORNING.

, UH, MR. HUNT, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? NOTHING.

NO, SIR.

NO, SIR.

OKAY.

ALRIGHTY, THEN WE'LL

[2. CONSENT AGENDA]

AND THE CONSENT AGENDA, UH, IS, IS PRETTY BIG HERE.

DOES ANYBODY WISH TO TAKE ANYTHING OFF OF IT OR DISCUSS ANY ITEM THAT'S ON IT? NO, NO, NO.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WE ACCEPT CONSENT.

ALRIGHTY.

THEN I HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER HUNT.

DO I HAVE MY SECOND? NO, SECOND THEN I HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER BARBER.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL RIGHTY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[3. Teressa Floyd; Discuss/Consider the updated contract for the collection of taxes for all taxing entities.]

WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE.

AND THAT'LL BE THERESA FLOYD, OUR TAX, THE UPDATE, THE CONTRACT FOR COLLECTION ON TAXES FOR ALL TAXING ENTITIES, ALL OF 'EM IN THE MORNING, ALL OF 'EM.

AND THAT'S A LOT.

HOW MANY DO WE HAVE TO SEE? NOW? THAT'S A TRICK QUESTION RIGHT HERE.

ALL RIGHT.

OFF.

I DO NOT REMEMBER, BUT IT'S A BUNCH.

YEAH.

UM, SO BASICALLY WE DON'T HAVE CURRENT CONTRACTS UNDER FOR MY NAME OR THE NEW COUNTY JUDGES THERE.

AND, UH, SO I THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD TIME FOR US TO UPDATE OUR CONTRACTS FOR EVERYBODY, CUZ THERE ARE SOME DIFFERENT WORDING OF THAT NEEDED TO BE PUT ON THE, THE CONTRACTS AS WELL.

SO THERE ARE THREE CHANGES THAT WE MADE AND, UM, SO I JUST, IF YOU GUYS WOULD APPROVE IT, I'D LIKE TO GET THESE SENT OUT TO ALL OF THE ENTITIES FOR THEM TO SIGN SO THAT FOR NEXT YEAR'S COLLECTIONS MM-HMM.

, AND I ALREADY ASK YOU, BUT I'LL ASK YOU FOR THE RECORD, BUT YOU PASSED IT THROUGH THE, OUR ADAS AND I DID AND THEY SAID YES.

THEY PUT THEIR BLESSING ON IT.

YES, SIR.

MM-HMM.

MM-HMM.

.

IT'S BASICALLY A NAME CHAIN FROM OUR PREVIOUS TAX ASSESSORS.

RIGHT.

YOU OKAY? THANK YOU.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE MATTER? NO.

NOPE.

THEN I'LL TAKE A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

UH, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER BARBARA.

DO I HEAR A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

AND I HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER HUNT.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

MOTION CARRIES ALREADY.

OUR NEXT UP

[4. Sheriff Beavers; Discuss/consider the retirement of K9 Officers Zek and Rocket to their handlers pursuant to Section 614 of the Texas Government Code and approve Canine Retirement Agreements for the respective canine.]

UH, SHERIFF BURNS, LIKE I SAID, USED TO SAY, UH, THE SHERIFF, THE ONE AND ONLY.

YEAH.

UH, NOW WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS ABOUT THE, THE CANINE ZEKE AND ROCKET THAT WE

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WE WERE RETIRING THEM TOO.

THEY'VE MET THE, THE, THEIR LIFE EXPECTANCY WITH SOME OF THE HIP STUFF AND ISSUES THAT COME ON WITH THESE PATROL ANIMALS.

SO, RETIRE THEM.

UH, WE WENT THROUGH THE, UH, DA'S LEGAL UNDER 1641, THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE THAT GIVES US OUR PROCESS FOR TAKING THAT AND MAKING THE HANDLERS WHO WANT THEM BACK, AND THEY'LL FINISH OUT THE CARE, CUSTODY CONTROL OF THEM ANIMALS UNTIL THE END OF THEIR LIFE.

SO WE WANT TO SEE IF THE COURT WILL PROVE THAT OR WE CAN HAND THEM OFF TO THE, UH, HANDLERS.

AND THEN WE'VE GOT TWO OTHER DOGS IN PROCESS AS WE SPEAK NOW.

MM-HMM.

.

SO THE, THE HANDLER GETS A NEW DOG AND, AND KEEPS THEM WELL, ONE, ONE HANDLER IS NO LONGER A HANDLER.

HE'S, HE'S MOVED TO ANOTHER POSITION.

OKAY.

UH, THAT'S GETTING, UH, ZE.

AND THEN, UH, THE OTHER ONE IS A HANDLER.

STILL A HANDLER, BUT HE WANTS TO RE RETAIN THAT DOG UNTIL THE END OF HIS LIFE.

SO YEAH, WE DID HAVE A, A REQUEST FROM THE YOUNG LADY IN THE OFFICE IN THE, IN THE AUDIENCE AND ASKED IF THEY WERE BRINGING THE DOGS THIS MORNING SO SHE COULD SEE 'EM.

AND I SAID, NO, I DON'T THINK SO.

YEAH, THEM TWO.

THEY'RE THE, ONE OF THE HANDLERS IS IN SCHOOL AND THE OTHER ONE'S OFF ON ASSIGNMENT.

BUT ANYWAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO HAVE A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

NO, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM YOU BEAT ME ON.

I'LL SECOND SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MAR.

WE'LL SWITCH IT AROUND FOR A WHILE.

ALL ALRIGHT.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND SO

[5. Sheriff Beavers; Discuss/Consider changing the Courthouse Sergeant position to a Lieutenant position.]

WE TRIED THIS, UH, BEFORE AND I WON'T GET INTO ANYTHING, BUT WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON, NEW JUSTICE CENTER AND TRYING TO KEEP EVERYTHING HERE AT THE ANNEX, UH, THIS IS ONLY DIVISION I HAVE THAT THE PERSON IS NOT A LIEUTENANT THAT HANDLES ALL THIS.

HE IS GETTING MORE PERSONNEL AND HANDLING A LOT MORE WITH ALL THE JAIL STUFF OVER THERE.

SO I'M ASKING THAT WE, I CAN MOVE THAT SERGEANT POSITION TO A LIEUTENANT POSITION.

AND I HAVE THE MONEY IN MY BUDGET, SO THERE'S NO LINE OUT CHANGES OR ANYTHING, IT'S JUST, IT'S FAIRLY EASY TO DO.

SO I'M ASKING YOUR PERMISSION TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT AND PROMOTE HIM WHERE HE NEEDS TO BE.

OH, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION TO DO THAT.

ALL RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER BARBARA MAKES A MOTION.

DO I HEAR A SECOND? SECOND.

COMMISSIONER HUNT? I'LL SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THANK YOU.

AND THEN WE'RE GONNA MOVE

[6. Sheriff Beavers; Discuss the Justice Center parking.]

WELL, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE, THE PARKING.

I WAS ASKED BY THE COUNTY JUDGE TO COME TO Y'ALL AND TALK ABOUT THE, THE PARKING.

I HAVE BEEN, UH, HAVING MY STAFF AND US MANAGING, AND I'LL TELL YOU, YESTERDAY WAS, UH, A PRETTY BUSY DAY.

WE HAD ONE JURY COME IN, WELL FRIDAY WAS PRETTY BUSY.

THEY HAD THE GRAND JURY COME IN, UH, SUPPOSED TO HAVE ABOUT 125, I THINK 70 SOMETHING PEOPLE SHOWED UP.

I THINK MAYBE WE HAD 10 SPOTS LEFT OPEN.

UH, YESTERDAY WAS PRETTY BUSY.

UH, THEY HAD, THEY HAD 300 PEOPLE PUT OUT FOR JURY.

ONLY ABOUT A HUNDRED SHOWED UP.

AND AT ONE POINT WE ONLY HAD ABOUT TWO SPOTS AND THAT WAS IN AND OUT BETWEEN EVERYTHING ELSE.

ONE TIME WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY IN, UH, QUITE A FEW OF 'EM ARE COMING OVER THERE AND PARKING IN OUR LOT.

UH, AT ONE TIME I'VE SEEN PEOPLE DRIVING THROUGH THE PARKING LOT AND THEN LEAVING CUZ THERE WAS NOT A SPOT.

SO WE STILL HAVE A MAJOR ISSUE WITH PARKING.

UH, LUCKILY TODAY THE GRAND OR THE JURY, UH, WAS CANCELED BECAUSE THEY GOT A PLEA IN A CRIMINAL CASE.

SO THERE'S TURNING IN PEOPLE OUT.

BUT WE, WE HAVE A MAJOR ISSUE OUT THERE WITH PARKING.

WE'VE GOT ALL THE EMPLOYEES.

UM, I THINK Y'ALL SEEN SOMETHING, THERE WAS LIKE 400 SPOTS THERE.

IT'S NOT, I'VE SENT YOU A DEAL.

THERE'S 206 SPOTS AND WE BROUGHT A HUNDRED EMPLOYEES OVER A LITTLE MORE THAN A HUNDRED EMPLOYEES.

SO WE DON'T HAVE MANY SPOTS OVER THERE.

PLUS WE'VE GOT 85 OVER THERE.

BUT THE CONSTRUCTION PEOPLE ARE USING IT.

AND WHEN THAT FREES UP, THAT'S GONNA GIVE US A LITTLE BIT.

BUT THAT BACKLOG THAT WAS CANCELED, I'M NOT BILLING OF 87 SPOTS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO, BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, TO GET THAT APPROVED TO TRY TO EITHER DO ASPHALT LIKE Y'ALL SAID Y'ALL COULD DO QUICKLY OR I DON'T KNOW IF IN THE LONG TERM, IF WE LOOKING AT SOMETHING, I THINK A GOOD IDEA.

THIS IS JUST ME LOOKING AT EVALUATING WHAT IT IS.

IF THERE'S, CUZ THERE'S NOT MUCH ROOM TO GO OUT, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH LAND TO GO OUT AND BUILD IT.

SO I'LL THINK IN DOWN THE ROAD THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE A PARKING GARAGE.

AND I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT A PARKING GARAGE, I WOULD SAY I'D DO IT FOR THE EMPLOYEES AND GET THE EMPLOYEES OUT OF THE LOT AND MOVE IT BACK BEHIND THE BUILDING.

THAT'S WHERE WE PROBABLY GOT THE BEST GROUND TO DO THAT.

AND THEN THEY CAN ACCESS THE BACK OF THE BUILDING.

WE CAN GIVE 'EM SECURE PARKING FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.

BUT WHATEVER Y'ALL WANNA DO, THAT'S JUST THE OPTION WHAT I'VE JUST BEEN EVALUATING AND LOOKING AT.

BUT THAT'S WHERE WE'RE STAYING.

IT IT IS THE PARKING LOT HAS GOT TO BE ADDRESSED.

AND THEN I WON'T EVEN GET INTO THE, UH, EXIT IN THE BUILDING.

WE HAVE, I KNOW, UH, DIFFERENT ELECTED OFFICIALS

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UH, I'VE DONE THE SAME THING IN MY BUILDING WHERE WE CAN MOVE SOME PEOPLE AROUND WHERE WE'RE NOT JUST ALL LEAVING AT FIVE O'CLOCK.

SO THAT'S HELPED A LITTLE BIT BUT, UH, I'VE SEEN AS MU AS LONG AS 15 TO 20 MINUTES TO GET OUTTA THE PARKING LOT AND I'M REALLY SCARED WE'RE GONNA WIND UP GETTING A JURY OR SOMEBODY COMING TO THAT BUILDING, OUR EMPLOYEE KILLED AT THAT INTERSECTION.

IT IS A BAD INTERSECTION.

PEOPLE SPEED DOWN 1 75 AND TRYING TO CROSS IT.

OF COURSE THE INTERSECTION IS, IS BEING DEALT WITH.

BUT ANY TIME YOU DEAL WITH TDOT OR ANY TYPE OF ROAD WORK, IT TAKES TIME.

YES.

AND IT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON IS KIND OF A TEMPORARY DEAL UNTIL THEY DO SOMETHING WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THERE ON 1 75 IN THAT AREA.

SO IT IS JUST GONNA TAKE TIME AND CORRECT.

IT'S GONNA BE AN INCONVENIENCE FOR A LONG TIME, YOU KNOW, UNTIL WE GET EVERYTHING MOVING.

SO, BUT I THINK OUR BIG CONCERN IS WE GOTTA GET SOMETHING FOR PARKING.

CAUSE WE'RE GONNA, I MEAN WE MOVED INTO A BUILDING WHERE WE COULD HAVE SEVERAL JURORS COME IN AND UH, THEY'RE HAVING TO OFFSET.

RIGHT NOW THE JUDGES ARE HAVING TO WORK TOGETHER LIKE WE DID OVER HERE, OFFSET WHERE WE CAN HAVE PARKING.

CUZ YOU CAN'T HAVE TWO JURY POOLS COME IN RIGHT NOW.

THERE'S NO WAY.

NO.

AND ORIGINALLY WHEN WE HAD THAT BACK PARKING LOT SCHEDULE, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE WE'RE DOING THAT IS SO YOU COULDN'T HAVE TWO BOOT UH, JURY POOLS AT THE SAME TIME.

CUZ YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE RIGHT ON THE EDGE OF THAT OTHER DISTRICT JUDGE AND WE DO THAT THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'LL HAVE THREE MAJOR COURTS AND YOU COULD HAVE AS MANY AS THREE GEORGE, I MEAN POOLS AT EXACTLY ON THE SAME DAY AND BE IN REAL TROUBLE THEN.

YEAH.

AND DOES THAT, I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER, REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, I GOING AND OUT OF IT, YOU'D THINK I COULD NOTICE IT, BUT I, IS THERE EVEN FLASH, THERE'S NOT EVEN FLASHING LIGHTS LIKE DOWN ON 1 75 AND STUFF THERE.

THERE'S NO FLASHING LIGHTS OUT THAT WAY.

NONE AT ALL GIVING THAT SEEMS LIKE AT LEAST WE COULD GET TEXT OUT TO GET DOWN THERE AND GET FLASHING LIGHTS OR SOMETHING BECAUSE AT LEAST MAYBE BRING UH, CAUTION TO THE INTERSECTION LIKE THEY'VE DONE THAT'S I'M SAYING IN KEMP AND MAYBANK, BUT JUST BRINGING UP SOME YELLOW AND RED LIGHTS WHERE THEY CAN BRING CAUTION.

YEAH.

AND PEOPLE MAYBE WILL SLOW DOWN AND PAY MORE ATTENTION BECAUSE I'VE EVEN SAID, WELL I I'M NOT SURE WHY WE CAN'T EVEN HAVE A RED LIGHT THERE.

IT'S INSIDE THE CITY OF LIMITS.

I MEAN IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S UH, YOU KNOW, OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE HIGHWAY, BUT YOU GO DOWN THE HIGHWAYS AND ON TWO 80, UH, SEVEN AND STUFF AND THERE'S RED LIGHTS ON 2 87, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GET CLOSER TO BRIDGEPORT AND STUFF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE HIGHWAYS.

SO I MEAN YEAH, I KNOW THE ONLY PLACE I KNOW OF 1 75 S GOT STOP LIGHTS IS NOW IN UTIS, CUZ IT DOES STILL GO TO EUSS AND THEY DO HAVE RED LIGHTS ON.

I'M SURE THEY HATE THAT.

BUT I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GOT A MAJOR AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC COMING OUT OF SOMEPLACE, UH, SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE.

YEAH.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT, I DON'T KNOW WHO'S TALKED TO LANE OR ANYTHING THE ENGINEER HERE, SO I DON'T, I'VE TOLD 'EM I'D HELP ANY WAY I CAN.

Y'ALL JUST NEED TO LET ME KNOW WHAT Y'ALL NEED ME TO DO.

BUT THAT GIVES YOU AN UPDATE ON THE PARKING LOT OF OR WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH OUT THERE.

WELL, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH THE DISTRICT JUDGES ALREADY.

YOU USE I TS AND HE HAS A LOT OF INFLUENCE STOCK, WHY PEOPLE GET HIM INVOLVED.

HE IS, HE IS INVOLVED.

HE IS, HE IS DAN.

WELL THEN YOU NEED TO ASK HIM DO SOMETHING.

I KNOW.

WELL, THAT'S RIGHT BRIAN, I WANNA CLARIFY SOMETHING ON THIS SIR ISSUE.

UH, YOU KNOW, UH, WE WEREN'T INVOLVED IN, IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT BUILDING.

NOTHING WAS BROUGHT TO US AND UH, THIS WAS BROUGHT UP TO THE PREVIOUS JUDGE, WASN'T IT? YES SIR.

I MEAN, I'VE TALKED OVER A YEAR AND A HALF WHEN THEY BROKE GROUND THAT WE WAS GOING TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE, AND IT WAS ORIGINALLY ONE WAY IN, ONE WAY OUT AND THEN IT GOT CANCELED.

SO YOU'RE CONCERNED THAT YOU BROUGHT UP AND EVERYTHING WERE BASICALLY DISREGARDED.

IS THAT CORRECT? AS FAR AS I KNOW, WE WE'RE STILL IN THE SAME BOAT WE WERE WHEN WE GOT HERE.

YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

AND NOW WE'RE HAVING THE VERY PROBLEMS. YOU PREDICTED WERE GONNA HAPPEN.

YES, SIR.

YEAH.

OKAY.

WELL I KNOW, I KNOW THAT LIKE, UH, WHEN I CAME IN THE OFFICE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED WAS THAT, AND THEN WHEN MIKE CAME IN THE OFFICE, WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE CHERRY STREET AND WE BOUGHT THAT PROPERTY AND MOVED THE HOUSE OFF OF, AND ME AND MIKE TOGETHER BUILT A PARKING LOT OVER THERE.

RIGHT.

UM, AND THAT'S A LOT EASIER FOR US TO DO, BUT IT, WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER A HIGHWAY OUT THERE.

RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE'D FIGURE SOMETHING OUT.

OH, EXACTLY.

IT IT, THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY I SAID I THINK Y'ALL CAN PUT YOUR HEADS TOGETHER AS YOU DID IS THAT PARKING LOT, THE LITTLE BIT OF GROUND THAT THEY DID CANCEL THAT 87 SPOTS AND NOT BUILD THEM, UH, OTHER PARKING SPOTS IS THE DIRT IS DONE.

I THINK IT'D BE BE, Y'ALL COULD PROBABLY BUILD IT FASTER THAN ANYBODY AS LONG AS WE GET THE CITY APPROVAL TO, I KNOW IN A COUPLE WEEKS WE'LL ALL BE DOWN AT THE CAPITOL, UH, TALKING TO A FEW PEOPLE ABOUT THAT.

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YES, SIR.

SO I MEAN THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S A MAJOR I KNOW LIKE ON TRAFFIC COMING OUT ONTO A HIGHWAY THAT WAY.

LIKE I SAID, I KNOW THE JUDGES ARE RIGHT NOW WORKING AS THEY DID THIS WEEK IS, UH, THEY HAD MONDAY THEY HAD A JURY AND THEN TODAY WAS, UH, SET FOR ANOTHER JURY.

SO THEY'RE TRYING TO OFFSET LIKE THEY DID OVER HERE.

BUT, UH, WHEN WE MOVED IN NEW BUILDING, WE WAS HOPING WE'D GET MORE JURIES COME IN THERE AND HAVE TRIALS AND STUFF A LOT FASTER.

WELL, UM, DO WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE ON THE COST OF WHAT WOULD TAKE YET TO, UH, TO DO THAT PARKING LOT? I DON'T HAVE, THAT'S, I DON'T HAVE THE SLIGHTEST IDEA.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S, YOU KNOW, I'VE TALKED TO COUNTY JUDGE AND HE TALKED ABOUT HAVING S***T AND MIKE AND DIDN'T WORK TOGETHER SINCE THEY HAVE THE EQUIPMENT.

CAUSE ASPHALT WOULD BE THE FASTEST WAY TO DO IT.

AND Y'ALL CAN DO IT ANYTIME, AS LONG AS IT'S NOT RAINING OR SOMETHING.

BUT I THINK THAT THEY FILLED IT IN A BUNCH WOULD'VE BEEN BEEN A LOT BETTER IF WE FILLED IT BACK IN ON WITH THE EARLY GOOD STUFF THAT WORK COULD ASPHALT AND OVER IT.

YEAH.

UM, WELL WE HAVE SOME MONEY.

I WISH SOMEBODY HAD BEEN TALKING TO US ON, ON THE BUILDING OR, OR IS THERE MONEY LEFT OVER FROM THAT? WE HAVEN'T GOT ALL THE FINAL BILLS YET.

I HAVE NO IDEA.

YEAH.

OKAY.

BUT YOU KNOW, ON THERE THERE'S MONEY.

WE CAN FIND SOME MONEY IF WE HAVE TO.

WELL, I KNOW, I, I THINK SOMEBODY WAS TALKING TO US THE OTHER DAY AND I DON'T REMEMBER WHO IT WAS.

I KNOW I'M LOOKING AT SOMEBODY, BUT IT WASN'T, UH, BUT THEY WERE TALKING, THEY HAD A MILLION DOLLARS IN CONTINGENCY LEFT OVER OUT THERE AND I DON'T KNOW, BUT THEY WERE NOT SITTING UP.

I BELIEVE IT WHEN I SEE IT.

WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S ME.

I DON'T WANT TO SAY IT BECAUSE I DON'T, I CAN'T CONFIRM.

I DON'T KNOW.

BUT WE'LL WANT HARD NUMBERS CUZ I GUESS A LOT OF STUFF AND I DON'T THINK IT CAN CONTRIBUTE TO ANY OF THAT CONVERSATION.

CAN YOU? WHAT'S THAT? ARE THE FUNDS AVAILABLE? YEAH.

YEAH.

I MEAN, THERE'S STILL FUNDS AVAILABLE WITHIN THE PROJECT AS FAR AS THE I NEED TO COME OUT.

YEAH.

SHE GONNA GET EXCITED IF, UH, YEAH, WE'RE WE'RE GET IN TROUBLE.

SHE CAN'T HEAR YOU.

YEAH.

AND SO SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PARKING LOT AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE REFERRING TO AND WHERE THE MONEY COME FROM.

SO AS FAR AS WHAT THE TOTAL SHEET THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT ORIGINALLY FOR THE PROJECTS RIGHT.

ON OUR SIDE, I CAN TELL YOU THERE'S STILL SOME FUNDS AVAILABLE WITHIN THE PROJECT.

YEAH.

UM, I DUNNO IF IT'S QUITE A MILLION.

I MEAN, BUT THERE'S STILL SOME, IT'S IT'S CLOSE TO THAT NUMBER.

YEAH.

IT'S, IT'S, IT'S UP THERE.

AND I KNOW SOMEBODY, AND I DON'T, I, I REALLY DON'T REMEMBER, I DON'T THINK IT WAS YOU.

I DON'T THINK I, BUT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT AND THAT IT CAME UP WITH THAT NUMBER AND I SAID, WELL, WE'LL SEE WHEN IT'S OVER, BUT WE DON'T KNOW.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

WHICH, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY THE JUSTICE CENTER IS DONE.

THERE'S STILL A FEW LINGERING THINGS, YOU KNOW, SOME RIGHT.

ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT WERE REQUESTED AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT'S BEING SPENT OUTTA SOME OF THE CONTINGENCY, WHICH IS WHAT IT WAS INTENDED FOR.

FOUR AS UP.

YEAH.

AND, BUT YEAH, THEY'RE STILL GONNA BE BASED ON THE NUMBERS OF OUR, YOU KNOW, SUMMARY.

I'M KEEPING THAT.

THERE'S STILL SOME FUNDS IN THERE.

OKAY.

SO, ALL RIGHT.

BUT WE'RE GONNA KEEP, WE'RE GONNA KEEP UP, UH, LOOKING AND KEEP AN IDEAL OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE PARKING LOT AND HOW MANY SPOTS WE GOT WHERE WE CAN KEEP A GOOD RUNNING NUMBER FOR YOU.

WELL, MAYBE, MAYBE IT'LL GET BETTER, YOU KNOW, WHEN SOME OF THE CONSTRUCTION, YOU KNOW, STARTS MOVING OUT AND, AND THERE'S A PARKING LOT IN FRONT OF THAT AND NONE OF THAT'S COUNTED IN THE SPACES.

RIGHT.

OR, OR WE, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? BUT THE 206 IS OUT IN FRONT OF THE WHOLE BUILDING, NOT INCLUDING MINE OR THE 85 THAT'S DOWN THERE, THE 85 THAT'S TIED UP FOR THE JPS OFFICE RIGHT.

THAT THEY'RE USING TO HOLD THEIR MATERIALS TO ADD, TO DO THE BILL.

RIGHT.

AND ONCE THOSE GET OUT, THE MATERIALS KINDA GET OUTTA THE WAY THEN, UH, ALL THE CONSTRUCTION PEOPLE WILL BE A HUNDRED PERCENT DOWN THERE IN THE 85 WHEN IT KIND OF GETS IN.

WELL, RIGHT NOW THEY'RE ALL, THEY'RE ALL PARKING DOWN THERE IN THAT 80, 85.

WE HAVE, WE'VE MADE SURE WE'VE OPENED ALL THAT UP, BUT THERE'S 206 AND THEN WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER 80, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER 85.

I KNOW THAT THE TWO COURTS OVER THERE WILL BE USING THEM AND THEY HAVE EMPLOYEES, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE AS MANY AS THE OTHER COURTS.

YEAH.

THEY'RE ONLY BRINGING, THEY HAVE, THEY'RE BRINGING ABOUT 20.

YEAH.

THEY'RE PROBABLY BRINGING MAYBE 20 EMPLOYEES IF YOU BRING BOTH OF THEM JPS THERE.

SO THEY STILL LEAVES YOU 65 OVER THERE.

YEAH.

SO, SO IF YOU HAD THAT OTHER 85, WE CAN PROBABLY, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WE'RE NOT LEAVING THAT OUT.

UH, THINKING ABOUT THAT'S THE EQUATION FOR THE FUTURE.

YEAH.

THAT'S STILL THIS FUTURE FACT OF THE MATTER IS WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE 300 PARKING SPACES THAT WE DON'T HAVE.

IS THAT RIGHT? RIGHT.

I MEAN THEY'RE, YEAH.

WELL, WE GOT 89 CUT OUT 87 87.

CUT 87 OUT.

OKAY.

I'M GONNA TRUST HIM.

I HADN'T COUNTED.

OKAY.

I WAS JUST ASKING.

I'VE WALKED IT AND COUNTED IT.

I, I'VE WALKED EVERY SPOT COUNTED AND MATCHED IT UP.

I KNOW THERE'S 206 AND 87 COUNT, SO IF WE READ THERE IN 85, FRONT ONE, WE GET 87 OUT OF IT.

YEAH.

IF YOU READ, IF YOU DO THAT IN THE BACK, IT HAD A POSITION OF MAYBE 87.

I THINK THERE MIGHT BE A FEW MORE.

IT'S DEPENDING HOW YOU LAY IT OUT.

UH, SO THAT'S SOMETHING I'LL RELY ON Y'ALL'S EXPERT DAY OUT STUFF TO HOW MANY SPOTS WE CAN GET.

I THINK THAT'S GOING BE DISCUSSED, UH, NOT THIS WEEK, BUT THE NEXT WEEK WITH THE CITY OF KAUFMAN TOO.

RIGHT.

SO,

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SEE WHAT WE DO.

YEAH.

THAT WAY Y'ALL ARE INFORMED OF WHAT'S HAPPENING AS A MEETING WITH 'EM.

AND SO WE'LL, WE'LL FIND OUT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

THERE'S NO, UH, THERE'S NOTHING ON THAT.

UH, WE'LL JUST MOVE ON

[7. Pam Corder; Discuss/Consider approving and updating the resolution for the bullet-resistant shield grant by adding County Judge Jakie Allen as an authorized official; the grant is for $127,912.00.]

AS AN AUTHORIZED OFFICIAL.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO WHEN WE DO GRANTS, WE HAVE TO HAVE RESOLUTIONS AND, UH, PAST JUDGES ON OUR RESOLUTION.

SO TO BE ABLE TO, HE'S JUST GONNA ADD HIS NAME ON, ACCEPT THIS.

WE NEED TO DO THAT.

THIS GRANT IS FOR, FOR BULLET RESISTANCE SHIELDS ONE ROLLING AND, UM, 27 OF THE HANDHELD.

SO THAT WAS A GRANT THAT CAME OUT THROUGH THE STATE AND SHERIFF WAS INTERESTED IN IT, SO WE APPLIED AND GOT IT.

WHO'S GONNA BE HANDLING GRANT? I WILL BE HANDLING THE GRANT AND WE WILL ORDER EVERYTHING AT ONE TIME.

UM, SO WE'LL BE MUCH EASIER.

YEAH, THAT WAS SO MANY MOVING PARTS TO THAT GRANT.

YES.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM.

.

ALL RIGHT.

SOUNDS GOOD TO ME.

ALL RIGHT.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT I MAKE A MOTION? UM, HAVE A MOTION.

UM, COMMISSIONER HUNT A SECOND FROM BARBARA.

ALL IN FAVOR.

FAVORABLE FAVOR, PLEASE.

AYE, AYE.

AYE.

THANK YOU.

AYE.

ALL

[8. Jack Sebastian; Discuss and consider awarding Bid # 23-02: Annual Contract for Plumbing Services.]

NEXT UP IS JACK SEBASTIAN DISCUSSING CONSIDER AND WARNING BID NUMBER 23 OH DASH TWO ON ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR PLUMBING SERVICES.

JIM AND I MET, UH, MET WITH, UH, UH, JAMES MOORE IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, AND, UH, BOBBY BRIDGE'S MAINTENANCE WENT OVER THESE BIDS.

UH, INITIALLY, UH, I WAS GOING TO ASK TO HAVE A MULTI-AWARD OF ACCESS PLUMBING AND 3D.

UH, THE TAB SHEET YOU HAD BEFORE YOU WAS, WAS THE ORIGINAL, UH, ALL THE PRICING.

THEN THE SECOND SHEET WAS BASED ON A TWO HOUR PROJECT.

UH, I MET WITH, UH, UH, BRAD HENDRICKS IN, IN THE DA'S OFFICE, UH, TO MAKE SURE WE COULD DO A MULTI-AWARD ON THIS.

AND, UH, HE HAD A QUESTION ABOUT, UH, THE THIRD VENDOR, CONCORD, IF THERE WAS A SCENARIO, UH, WHERE THEY MIGHT ACTUALLY BE LOW.

AND WE RAN EVER NER UH, KNOWN DEMAND FAR AS EIGHT HOURS, 10 HOURS TRIP CHARGE, NO TRIP CHARGE.

AND IT WOULD, IN SOME CASES THEY COULD BE LOW DEPENDING ON HOW LONG THE PROJECT IS.

UH, IF YOU NOTICE THEY HAVE THE, THE LARGER TRIP CHARGE, WHICH AFFECTS IT ON A ONE HOUR JOB OR A TWO HOUR JOB.

BUT WHEN YOU SPREAD OVER, SPREAD OVER SEVERAL HOURS, THEN THEY COULD BE LOW BID AS WELL.

SO BASED ON THAT, UH, I RECOMMEND A MULTIPLE AWARD FOR ALL THREE VENDORS, UH, GIVE MAINTENANCE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, UH, LOOK AT EACH PROJECT BASED ON THE HOUR RATE, HOW LONG THEY WOULD EXPECT IT TO LAST.

THEY COULD KIND OF PICK AND CHOOSE WHO THEY THINK IS THE BEST, UH, FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT.

AND IF THAT VENDOR'S NOT AVAILABLE, THEN THEY COULD GO TO THE NEXT VENDOR.

SO I, I WOULD MAKE A, A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE DO A MULTIPLE AWARD TO ALL THREE VENDORS.

OKAY.

AND, UH, I GUESS JUST TO CLARIFY, UH, WE DO ALL THREE OF 'EM.

THEY'RE KINDA LIKE A VENDOR'S LIST AND THEY, AND THEN WE SEE, UH, CUZ MOST OF THE TIME IT'S PLUMBING STUFF'S COMING IN, EMERGENCY STUFF, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE REDOING THE COURTHOUSE THAT GOES OUT ON A SEPARATE BID.

RIGHT.

AND IT, OKAY.

SO IT'S NOT THE SAME TYPE OF STUFF.

OKAY.

AND IN A SITUATION WHERE I KNOW BOBBY CALLED, UH, ONE VENDOR THE OTHER DAY AND THEY COULDN'T BE OUT THERE FOR LIKE TWO HOURS AND HE CALLED THE NEXT GUY, HE COULD BE OUT THERE.

BUT HAVING SAID THAT, THERE'S ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY ON A BIG PROJECT THAT WE COULD GET THREE QUOTES AND INCLUDE MORE PEOPLE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

AND THIS IS JUST MORE OR LESS EMERGENCY.

YEAH.

CAUSE THIS IS MORE LIKE, LIKE THE CHILDREN'S CENTER OR SOMETHING THAT SOMETHING'S GOTTA BE DONE LIKE NOW OR A WEEKEND OR WHATEVER, OR NOT EXACTLY RIGHT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SOME OF THE STUFF I GUESS WE DO, RIGHT.

AND THEN WHAT WE CAN'T DO, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO CALL SOMEBODY IMMEDIATELY.

CAUSE IF, YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA HAVE A GIANT SEWER MACHINE OUT HERE TO CLEAN THE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING OUT.

WE, WE NEED 'EM NOW.

NOT.

AND IF YOU NOTICE THERE'S, THERE'S, UH, TWO, TWO OF THE VENDORS SEND TWO PLUMBERS EACH TIME.

ONE VENDOR SAYS SEND ONE PLUMBER, WHICH WOULD BE CHEAPER.

HOWEVER, IF YOU NEED A SEWER ROD MACHINE, THEN THEY HAVE TO HAVE TWO TO HELP UNLOAD IT.

SO, SO THERE'S A LOT OF HERBALS THERE.

OH, I KNOW.

AND BELIEVE ME, I DEAL WITH 'EM AND WELL, REALLY THERE'S NOT MUCH DIFFERENCE IN, I MEAN ALL ALL THESE BIDS ARE REALLY CLOSE COIN.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THERE.

YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

ALRIGHT.

HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER BARBER.

DO I HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER HUNT? SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

THANK YOU.

AND JACK'S

[9. Jack Sebastian; Discuss and consider awarding Bid # 23-04: Annual Contract for Electrical Services.]

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SO YEAH, I WAS, I I WAS ACTUALLY JUST LOOKING OVER ALL THIS STUFF YESTERDAY AND UH, UM, THERE'S GOTTA BE A TYPO HERE.

, UH, ONE IS LIKE 145% MARKUP ON MATERIALS.

AND, AND, AND I, WHENEVER I SAW THAT, IT'S LIKE I'M SPOILED, YOU KNOW, I'M THE GENERATION WHERE I TOOK THE EASY WAY OUT CAUSE I WASN'T REAL GOOD IN MATH AND HIT THE 25% AND HIT THE, THE DEAL.

AND THEN, UH, BUT THERE'S GOT TO BE MATH PEOPLE.

THERE'S GOT TO BE A WAY YOU USE THE HUNDRED TO GET YOUR PERCENTAGE, RIGHT? YEAH.

THE OLD WAY OF DOING MATH.

UHHUH.

.

YEAH.

I MEAN, I'M SPOILED.

SO SURELY THAT'S NOT CORRECT.

IT ACTUALLY IS.

UH OH, REALLY? UH, THAT'S, I THOUGHT WE, WE LOOKED AT THAT.

I THOUGHT THERE WAS A PROBLEM AS WELL.

AND THAT WAS, UH, THAT'S PRETTY GOOD, MARK.

JUST TO SAY IT'S THE SECOND ONE IN THE LIST.

YEAH, IT JUST, IT'S KIND OF JUST JUMPED OUT THERE WHEN I SAW THAT AND IT'S LIKE, WHOA.

YEP.

BUT IT IS GOT TO BE A, YOU KNOW, I WAS THINKING THAT THERE'S OTHER WAYS TO FIGURE PERCENTAGES, YOU KNOW, CAN YOU PUT THAT IN A CALCULATOR AND GET YOUR, THAT PERCENTAGE, YOU KNOW, MY CONSENT, WHAT I'M ASKING HERE, BECAUSE USUALLY I JUST GO IN AND SAY LIKE $3,000 TIMES, SAY 45 AND HIT THE PERCENT BUTTON AND IT DOES IT ALL FOR ME.

BUT IF YOU DID IT BY HAND, YOU USE A HUNDRED TO MULTIPLY BY OR DIVIDE.

I CAN'T REMEMBER MY MATH.

WELL, UH, I DID IT ALWAYS BY 10, BUT HE'S, I, I GUESS, I GUESS YOU'VE LOST ME.

I'M GOING, AND THE BID ASKED FOR WHAT PERCENTAGE OF MARKUP ON, ON THE GOODS.

AND THIS BID CLEARLY STATES 145%.

SO THERE'S NO MATH INVOLVED IN THAT.

IT'S, IT'S 145%, 145%.

IT, IT MARKS IT DOWN.

THAT'S THE WAY IT IS NOW.

UH, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A MISTAKE.

UH, IT PROBABLY WAS.

UH, YEAH, BUT I, I CAN ONLY GO BY WHAT'S ON THE BID, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T CHANGE, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T CHANGE THINGS.

YEAH.

WELL I GUESS FIRST THING, PART OF MY MIND, YOU KNOW, A PHONE CALL OR WHATEVER, HEY, ARE YOU SURE YOU'RE RIGHT ON THIS? ONCE AGAIN, OKAY, THIS IS THE BID.

THAT'S RIGHT.

IT CAN BE, IT CAN BE, IT CAN'T CALL HIM.

TAKE TIME.

WELL, I'LL, I'LL BACK UP NOW.

IF, IF A VENDOR COMES IN THERE AND SAYS, UH, UH, I PUT 0% IN THERE AND NOT SAY, WAS THAT A MISTAKE, THEN YOU CAN'T HAVE HIM CHANGE IT.

BUT YOU CAN SAY, TAKE MY BID OUT.

YOU KNOW? YEAH.

I CAN'T, BUT YOU CAN'T SAY REDUCE MY BID.

IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE.

OKAY.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I'M DECLINING.

WELL, I'M LEARNING HERE.

SO IT'S, IT'S PROCESS BUT MEAN IT JUST STUCK OUT.

AND IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, I, WHEN MASON, WHEN I LOOKED AT THAT, WE THOUGHT, I THOUGHT I, I MUST HAVE MISSED SOMETHING AND I WENT BACK TO THE BID AND, AND, AND I DID NOT BOTHER TO CALL THE VENDOR.

CUZ THERE AGAIN, WHAT'S ON THE BID CAN'T BE CHANGED.

YEAH.

UNLESS THEY, IT'S SOMETHING THEY CAN'T LIVE WITH, THEN WE CAN JUST REJECT THE BID.

I THINK THEY CAN LIVE WITH THAT.

OH, IT COULD, CAN, CAN YOU LIVE WITH IT? I THINK, I THINK THEY CAN LIVE WITH THAT.

THIS GENTLEMAN OUT HERE HAS SOMETHING.

CAN I, CAN I SPEAK IN REFERENCE TO THIS? YOU CAN COME UP HERE PLEASE.

SO YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S ON ME.

THAT'S GUARDING OUR ELECTRIC TOOL.

AND SO WHENEVER I'M BIDDING STUFF AND I TRAIN MY PEOPLE, THE EASIEST WAY TO DO IT IS PUT IN 145%.

SO IF YOUR MATERIAL COSTS $50 AND YOU MULTIPLY IT TIMES 145%, IT GETS YOU THE SALE COST.

OKAY? YOU CAN GET A CALCULATOR OUT AND DO IT REAL QUICK VERSUS DOING $50 TIMES, 45% THEN GET YOU THAT AND THEN HAVE TO ADD THAT INTO YOUR COST.

SO THAT'S THE WAY I DO IT.

, I USE THE PERCENT BUTTON.

SO THE 145% IS RIGHT IF YOU USE THE CALCULATOR.

CORRECT.

GREAT, BOBBY, I JUST DID IT.

YOU KNOW.

AND SO THE 1 45 IS IN OUR WORLD, IN THE TRADE WORLD REALLY AND TRULY IS WE TEACH YOUR TECHNICIANS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IF THEY'RE OUT PRICING SOMETHING TO A CUSTOMER, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT THEM TO DO IT REAL TIME IN FRONT OF THEM.

CAUSE WE'RE TRANSPARENT.

WE SHOW THEM OUR PRICING.

SO THE 1 45 IT IS CORRECT.

IT'S THE MULTIPLIER.

IT'S THE MULTIPLIER.

HOW ARE YOU'RE USING IT, YOU KNOW, AND STUFF.

SO ALL YOU GOTTA DO, IF YOU WANT TO TAKE IT AND JUST TAKE 45%, MULTIPLY YOUR COST AND THEN ADD THAT INTO YOUR COST, OR YOU CAN SHUT, SHORTEN THAT AND JUST DO THE COST TIMES ONE 45% AND IT GIVES YOU YOUR SELLING COST.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? MM-HMM.

IT, IT DOES.

THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD IS, IS, IS, IS I DIDN'T ASK FOR A MULTIPLIER.

I ASKED FOR THE MARKET PERCENTAGE, MARK.

OKAY.

IT'S, YEAH, IT'S YOUR CALL.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S THAT'S FINE.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN, GIVE A CHANCE TO EXPLAIN WHY.

YOU KNOW, IN MY WORLD, EVERY DAY THAT'S WHAT WE DO, YOU KNOW, STUFF, UH, I, I'D ONLY ADD ONE THING AND I, YOUR GENTLEMAN'S, UH, Y'ALL

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WE HAD A PRE BID, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A QUESTION THERE COULD BE BROUGHT UP AT THAT TIME, UH, AND DISCUSSED.

SO WHAT, BUT AGAIN, THIS IS STILL USED THE SAME TYPE OF WAY WITH THE PLUMBING.

IT IS MORE OF EMERGENCY.

HE ASKED NOT THE BIG JOBS WE WE'RE GOING.

AND I, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND TO MAINTENANCE OVER THE YEARS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS LIKE, WE GOTTA HAVE IT FIXED.

RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO GET QUOTES, BUT IF YOU HAVE A PROJECT COMING UP WHERE YOU HAVE TIME TO GET QUOTES UP, I SAYING THIS, REACH OUT TO ALL THREE OF THESE GUYS.

FRIES.

YES.

YEAH.

OKAY, COOL.

PHIL.

SOUNDS BAD.

.

SO, UH, BASED ON, ON THAT, UH, JUST OVERALL, UH, WHAT THE THREE PEOPLE, UH, DEPARTMENTS FELT LIKE WAS THE LOWEST AND BEST BID, UH, IT'S LUMPIES ELECTRIC.

SO BASED ON THAT, I I WOULD MAKE IT RECOMMENDATION WITH THE FACT THAT WE WILL REACH OUT TO EVERYBODY ON THE PROJECT THAT WE HAVE TIME TO GET QUOTES ON.

WE'VE ALWAYS DONE THAT ON, UH, H B A C, THAT THERE'S A PRICE TO COME OUT AND FIX IT WHEN WE'RE HOT.

BUT IF WE WANT TO ADD SOMETHING TO A NEW BUILDING, WE GET QUOTES.

BUT THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.

NO, THE ONLY THING I REALLY SEE, I MEAN, ALL THE PRICES ARE REALLY CLOSE EXCEPT FOR THAT STOOD OUT, BUT THE RESPONSE TIMES IT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY THING.

WELL, UH, THERE AGAIN, UH, IF IT'S A NURSE TYPE DEAL, EXCUSE ME, I SPOKE WITH OUR FOLKS AND I ASK, OKAY, YOU KNOW, WE, WE LOOKED AT EVERY WAY.

UH, SO SURE.

TYPICALLY WHAT WHO COMES OUT IS A MASTER ELECTRICIAN WILL KNOW IT'S USUALLY A, A, A JOURNEYMAN AND APPRENTICE.

UH, I PUT THE PRICING FOR EVERYTHING, RIGHT? BUT TYPICALLY WE, WE BRING OUT A JOURNEYMAN AND A APPRENTICE IS WHAT I'M TOLD.

AND, AND BASED ON THAT, YOU KNOW, LEMP IS CLEARLY LOW THERE, BUT YEAH.

MM-HMM.

, UH, OKAY.

YEAH.

OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT I HAVE.

BUT I, I RESPECT YOUR DECISION.

ALL RIGHT.

BUT IT'S NOT GONNA MAKE, IT'S AS FAR AS THE, THE, THAT IT'S NOT GONNA MAKE A DIFFERENCE THE WAY IT FELL OUT.

LIKE I SAY, I JUST ASKED THE QUESTION CUZ HE JUST KIND OF STOOD OUT.

I UNDERSTAND.

SO THAT'S, I I AGREE.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, UM, ENTERTAIN THE MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

ALL RIGHT, WELL WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER BARBARA.

I'LL SECOND AND THE SECOND ALL FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MOTION APPROVED.

AND AGAIN,

[10. Jack Sebastian; Discuss and consider advertising to auction seizure vehicles for Kaufman County Sheriff's Office.]

AND THIS WILL BE PRESENTED BY JACK SEBASTIAN AGAIN.

UH, GENTLEMAN, THE SHERIFF HAS SOME, SOME, UH, CARS HE NEEDS TO TAKE TO AUCTION.

UH, AND SO I'M, I'M ASKING PERMISSION TO, UH, ADVERTISE THAT FOR SE UH, SEIZURE VEHICLES.

I THINK LAST WEEK WE HAD A, UH, UH, APPROVAL FOR ADVERTISING ON COUNTY VEHICLES.

I'M KIND OF WAITING UNTIL IT ALL ONE TIME YOU SAVE MONEY ON ADVERTISING AND ON 90 YARDS.

SO I'LL CONVERSATION.

ALL RIGHT.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

I HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER HUNT.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER BARBARA.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU MOTION PASSES.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT, NOW WE'RE

[11. Chuck Mohnkern; Discuss/Consider updating the Sick Leave Pool policy.]

NO, I'M SORRY.

DISCUSSING, CONSIDER UPDATING THE SICK PEOPLE.

I'M JUST LOOKING DOWN AND READING.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT, UH, TABLE THIS SO WE CAN HAVE SOME FURTHER DISCUSSION ON IT, UH, WITH THE ATTORNEYS.

OKAY.

THEN WE'RE GO ON.

UH, DO YOU GOING TO PUT IT BACK ON WITNESS ON TABLE IT AND AUTOMATICALLY COME BACK NEXT WEEK? RIGHT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THEN I HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE.

NO MA'AM.

FROM COMMISSIONER BARBARA AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER HUNT ON FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU CHUCK.

ALL RIGHT.

BOBBY BRIDGES

[12. Bobby Bridges; Present updates on Animal Shelter, Justice Center, and all new construction projects in Kaufman County.]

GOOD MORNING, PHYLLIS.

UM, I GOT GREG HERE TODAY TO KIND OF GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE ANIMAL SHELTER AND WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THAT.

ALL RIGHT, GREG.

GOOD MORNING AGAIN.

GOOD MORNING.

SO WE THINK WE MAY HAVE FOUND THE SOURCE OF WHAT THE PLUMBING ISSUE IS.

ALL RIGHT.

WE WE'RE ACTUALLY, TODAY WE'RE OUT DRILLING ANOTHER BORE PIT IN THE BACK OF THE BUILDING WHERE THE PLUMBING LINES EXIT THE BUILDING.

WHAT WE BELIEVE HAS HAPPENED BASED ON TEST BOARDS WE'VE DONE IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, THE ROOF DRAINS ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, WERE DRAINING ONTO THE GROUND ON SPLASH BLOCKS.

AND WE THINK THE EXCESS THE WATER IS LEAKING BACK UNDER THE BUILDING AND WHERE ALL THE PLUMBING VOID SYSTEM IS TO SUPPORT THE PLUMBING COULD POTENTIALLY BE CREATING A WATER TRAP.

AND WHAT, BASED ON THE BOARDS WE PUT

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AND WHAT WE THINK IS HAPPENING IS THE HYDRAULIC PRESSURE MAY BE PUSHING THOSE LINES UP THERE.

IT'S GETTING TRAPPED INTO THEIR, IF YOU'VE EVER DONE, OBVIOUSLY YOU'ALL DONE PLUMBING TRENCHES, WHERE YOU GOT GRAVEL, WATER TENDS TO GET TRAPPED AND TRAVEL IN THOSE AREAS.

SO WE'RE SUSPECTING THAT'S THE ISSUE.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE DOING IT TODAY, IS WE'RE PUTTING ANOTHER PIT IN THE BACK AT THE LOWEST POINT OF THE TRENCHES, AND TO SEE IF WE CAN GET WATER THERE, IF THE WATER'S PRESENT TO WHERE WE COULD PUMP IT OUT.

SO WE THINK WE MIGHT HAVE FOUND THE ISSUE, NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT YET, BUT WE'LL KNOW AFTER TODAY.

I KNOW.

IS IT, IS THAT BLACK MUD OVER THERE? JUST THERE? IT'S CLAY, HUH? IT'S HORRIBLE.

CLAY.

IT'S YEAH, CLAY.

YEAH.

YEAH, BECAUSE I KNOW LIKE THE BLACK MUD THAT'S AROUND FORNEY, YOU KNOW, MY, MY BROTHER-IN-LAW IS A GEOPHYSICIST AND GEOLOGIST ALL THIS AND ALL THIS STUFF.

AND HE, HE WAS EXPLAINING TO ME ONE DAY HOW THAT BLACK BUD AND SOME CERTAIN CLAYS, THEY, IT CAN RAIN OVER HERE, BUT IT PUSHES WATER UP OVER HERE.

I, I CAN TELL YOU WE'RE, WE JUST GOT THROUGH DRILLING PIERS ON THE FORNEY PROJECT AND WE DRILLED ALL THE WAY AROUND THE BUILDING AND THE VERY FRONT CORNER, WHICH WAS THE LAST PIER WE DRILLED IN FRONT OF THE UTILITY CONTRACTOR, HAD TO PUT STORM LINES OUT THERE AND GRAVEL CLOSE BY IT, THAT ALL THE OTHER PIERS WERE DRY AND THAT ONE WAS FLOODED.

YEP.

BECAUSE THAT WATER GOT TRAPPED IN A POCKET UNDER THE GROUND IN THERE.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SUSPECTING IS HAPPENING.

SO WHEN IT STARTS DRYING OR SOMETHING THAT, AND I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXPLANATION HE WAS GIVING ME, BUT IT WOULD LITERALLY PUSH UP.

YOU COULD GO OVER TO THE POY HIGH SCHOOL AND, AND IT HADN'T EVEN RAINED, AND THERE'S WATER BEING PUSHED UP INTO THE, UNDERNEATH THE CEMENT AND BREAKING UP THE CEMENT.