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RIGHT.

GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING.

WE'RE HERE AT THE REGULAR SCHEDULE COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING, AND WE HAVE A FULL AGENDA FOR TODAY.

WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.

YEAH.

SO

[Call to Order]

WE WILL PROCEED.

SO COMMISSIONER MORRIS WILL LEAD US IN THE PRAYER, AND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS GONNA LEAD US IN THE PLEDGES.

SO IF YOU WOULD STAND WITH ME, PLEASE.

HEAVEN.

FATHER, DEAR LORD, WE JUST THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY, AND WE ASK THAT YOU BE WITH US AS WE MAKE DECISIONS TODAY, LORD, THAT IT BE IN YOUR WILL, NOT OUR OWN.

AND LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THE REIGN THAT WE HAVE COMING TODAY.

WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THE BLESSINGS THAT YOU GIVE US.

WE ASK THAT YOU BE WITH OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR MILITARY, LORD, BE WITH OUR LEADERS OF THE COUNTRY TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT ARE IN YOUR WILL AS WELL.

LORD, WE THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL YOUR LOVE.

YOU SHOW US AND WE GIVE YOU PRAISE AND YOUR SON'S HOLY NAME.

AMEN.

AMEN.

I PLEDGE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC, WHICH IS STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH NEW JUSTICE FOR ALL HONOR THE TEXAS PLAN PLEDGE LEAVE TEXAS.

ONE SECOND.

THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH.

DO WE HAVE ANYONE WHO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TODAY? NO.

OKAY.

THEN WE'LL MOVE RIGHT ON TO THE, UH, ANYBODY HAVE ANY ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE? ANYTHING GOING ON? OKAY.

THE CONSENT

[2. CONSENT AGENDA]

AGENDA.

Y'ALL HAVE HAD TIME TO LOOK AT IT.

DO YOU HAVE ANY REVISIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? NO, SIR.

NO, I JUST SUGGEST WE PASS IT IN ONE.

I NEED A MOTION TO PUT TO APPROVE IT.

COMMISSION PHELPS.

MAKE THE MOTION A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

MR. PS.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

OH.

OH.

WE GOT MIKE ON THE, UH, PHONE OVER HERE.

ALL RIGHT.

HE'S GOT THE CORONA, SO HE CAN'T BE WITH US TODAY.

.

ALL RIGHT.

NUMBER THREE.

HE'S GOT, AND FOUR, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.

I MEAN, CONSTABLE JOHNSON ASKED US TO TABLE THOSE.

HE'S OUT SICK.

HE'S BEEN IN THE HOSPITAL, SO EXTEND THEIR PRAYERS TO HIM.

BUT WE'LL MOVE ON

[5. Pam Corder; Discuss/Consider approving the resolution for a Specialty Court grant through the Office of the Governor, Criminal Justice Division. This funding is to support the 422nd District Drug Court.]

THEN TO NUMBER FIVE.

FIVE, WHICH IS PAM CARTER.

SO PAM, SHE GOT AN ASSISTANT COMING UP WITH HER.

GOOD MORNING, YOU'RE UP.

YES, MA'AM.

MORNING.

WELL, UM, I'M HERE TODAY TO ASK FOR PERMISSION TO APPLY FOR A GRANT.

FIRST ONE IS A SPECIALTY COURT GRANT.

SO WE HAVE, UM, JUDGE GIBBS HAS A GRANT, IT'S A DRUG COURT GRANT AND OUR DRUG COURT, AND WE WANNA APPLY FOR FUNDINGS THROUGH THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE TO BE ABLE TO HELP WITH, UM, SENDING THEM TO TRAINING, TO ALSO, I HAVE IT ON HERE.

AND ALSO TO PROVIDE, UM, SOFTWARE THAT WILL HELP THEM RUN THAT COURT A LITTLE BIT, UM, MORE EFFICIENTLY.

DRUG TESTING SUPPLIES, THEY'RE, THEY ARE TESTED WEEKLY.

AND SO, SO THAT COMES VERY COSTLY.

UM, THEY'LL GET BINDERS TO HELP THEM KEEP UP WITH THEIR PROGRESS AND ALSO FUNDING TO HELP WITH COUNSELING SERVICES FOR THEM.

OKAY.

IS THIS A ONE YEAR GRANT OR IS SHE A DOLLAR AMOUNT? IT'S, IT'S, SO RIGHT NOW SHE'S STILL WORKING ON THE BUDGET.

UM, SO WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER, UH, WITH JUDGE RICH OR JUDGE GIBBS, UH, COORDINATOR.

BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT OVER $20,000.

BETWEEN 20 AND PROBABLY 26,000 IS WHERE WE'RE GONNA END UP AT.

SO WE HAVE HAD THESE GRANTS BEFORE.

OKAY.

UM, IT HAS, WE, WE HAVEN'T HAD ONE IN ABOUT THREE YEARS.

FUNDING HAD GONE DOWN, AND SO NOW WE WANNA TRY IT AGAIN.

OF COURSE, WE HAVE THE NEW JUDGE THAT WANTS TO TRY IT, SO.

OKAY.

YEAH.

SO OUR APPLICATIONS ARE DUE THURSDAY BY FIVE O'CLOCK.

ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE PLENTY TIME.

OKAY.

YES.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS, YOU GUYS? ANY QUESTIONS FOR PAM? NO, I'M HERE.

I NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS, THEN I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

MOTION BY COMMISSIONER I, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIED.

THANK YOU, PAM.

AYE.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

[6. Pam Corder; Discuss/Consider approving the resolution for the Kaufman County Constable's Safety Enhancement Project Grant through the Office of the Governor, Criminal Justice Division, funding is the purchase of 2 traffic safety trailers.]

SO WE ALSO WANT TO APPLY THROUGH THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE, UM, CRIMINAL JUSTICE DIVISION FOR TRAFFIC, UM, SIGNS.

I'M GONNA LET, UH, CONSTABLE WOODALL TELL US ABOUT IT.

UM, WE WANNA APPLY FOR TWO THAT'S ABOUT $18,000.

AND, UM, I'LL LET HIM EXPLAIN WHY WE NEED THOSE.

SO WE'VE WORKED, WE'VE, PAM AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS FOR GOING ON A YEAR NOW, TRYING TO, UH, UH, SEE WHAT KIND OF TRAILER WE'D LIKE TO HAVE.

BUT BASICALLY WHAT THIS IS, IT IS JUST A, UH, I WOULD CALL IT A COMPLIANCE TYPE, UH, UNIT WHERE IT TELLS THE SPEED OF THE ROAD.

IT TELLS THE SPEED THAT THEY'RE GOING.

IF THEY'RE SPEEDING, IT FLASHES RED AND BLUE.

UM, UH, SO I, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.

THE TRAILER WOULD BE IMPORTANT.

I'VE WATCHED, WE'VE BORROWED THE TRAILER FROM THE SHERIFF ON A, A COUPLE OF ROADS UP IN PRECINCT THREE.

AND, UH, I'VE, I HAVE SAT THERE IN A SQUAD CAR, A MARKED SQUAD CAR WHEN PEOPLE GO 50 IN A 30 AND PASS ME AND WAVE AND THEY'LL SLOW DOWN FOR THE, FOR THE TRAILER.

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UH, AMAZING.

THEY JUST DON'T KNOW.

UH, COMMISSIONER BARBER HAS EVEN GOTTEN BIGGER, UH, SPEED LIMIT SIGNS AND IT'S STILL NOT WORKING.

UM, IT'S JUST THE, I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE ANYTHING WORKS.

IT'S, IT, IT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, I JUST NEED A HELP.

THE PROBLEM IS IT'S A GOOD PROBLEM, BUT WITH THE ROADS BEING REPAIRED WITH THE BOND MONEY, AND NOW THEY'RE LIKE FM ROADS, SEVERAL OF 'EM, PRECINCT THREE, AND, UH, WE HAVE PEOPLE RUNNING 70 MILES AN HOUR AND A 30, AND CITIZENS COMPLAIN ALL THE TIME ABOUT IT.

THE OTHER GOOD THING ABOUT THE TRAILER THAT, THAT, UH, WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE GRANT FOR IS IT ALSO COLLECTS DATA AND IT'LL COLLECT DATA THAT I THINK WOULD BE, UH, GOOD FOR THE COMMISSIONER, UM, OF HOW MANY CARS ARE GOING DOWN THAT ROAD BY THAT TRAVEL.

IT'LL COUNT.

CARS GIVE US THE AVERAGE SPEED OF THE CAR, YOU KNOW, UH, ALL KINDS OF DATA LIKE THAT, THAT I THINK WE COULD USE, UH, JUST TO SEE HOW MUCH TRAFFIC'S GOING DOWN OUR ROADS.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, SO I THINK THERE'S, YOU'RE, I GOT TWO 'EM HERE IN ONE, SO WHEN I ASKING FOR TWO, UM, THAT WAY THEY CAN KIND OF USE THEM THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

I KNOW PRECINCT TWO DOES HAVE ONE.

AND I DID HEAR HOW YOU USE IT ON YOUR COUNTY ROADS TOO.

I DO.

I I USE IT.

I HAVE I FOR FOUR YEARS.

MM-HMM.

, YOU KNOW, AND I COUNTS THE CARS IN BOTH DIRECTIONS.

IT'LL COUNT BOTH DIRECTIONS.

ONE DIRECTION EVERY HOW YOU WANT, GIVE YOU AVERAGE SPEED, TIME OF DAY.

THE SPEED WERE.

YES.

AND IT'LL ALSO GIVE US A TIME OF DAY.

SO WE'LL KNOW IF WE NEED TO PUT SQUAD CARSS OUT THERE AND, UH, START, YOU KNOW, MAKING TRAFFIC STOPS.

WE KNOW WHAT TIME OF DAY.

THERE'S NO SENSE OF BEING OUT THERE AT NOON IF EVERYBODY'S SPEEDING AT FIVE O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON.

YEAH.

THEY, THEY REALLY, UH, THEY DO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

I THINK.

I, YOU KNOW, AND AT, AT NIGHTTIME WHEN THEY'RE ON, IN THE TOP OF HILL OR SOMETHING AND THAT'S STARING, THAT'S RED AND BLUE LIGHT COMES ON.

THEY THINK THERE'S A SQUAD CARD AND THEY DO SLAM 'EM.

RIGHT.

AND THIS IS COMPLIANCE ONLY.

THERE'S, YEAH.

THIS TRAILER DOESN'T, UH, WE'RE ASKING FOR, IT'S NOT, IT DOESN'T TICKET RIDER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THIS ISN'T TICKET RIDER.

WE'VE BEEN DOWN THAT ROAD BEFORE.

WE'RE, WE'RE, WELL, I'M NOT GOING DOWN THAT ROAD.

UH, BUT THIS IS JUST, UH, AWARENESS TO LET 'EM KNOW WHAT THE SPEED IS.

CUZ I REALLY THINK IT'S AN ISSUE WITH THE CELL PHONES AND DRIVING AND YEAH.

THEY JUST, THAT'S A GOOD THING.

WORKS GOOD.

YEAH.

OKAY.

AND SO, UH, PRECINCT FOREHEAD, TALK TO ME ALSO ABOUT WANTING ONE.

SO FIRST OFF, WE'LL LET, UH, PRECINCT THREE AND FOUR USE IT, AND THEN AS WE NEED, WE CAN MOVE IT AROUND.

OKAY.

MOVE THEM AROUND.

SO WE'LL HAVE, WE'RE GONNA ASK FOR TWO, ASK FOR TWO.

MM-HMM.

.

THAT'S GREAT.

THAT'S GREAT.

ASK FOR MANY AS YOU WANT TO.

YES.

WELL, WE COULD ASK FOR MORE.

I JUST, THE DATA, WE'VE GOTTA HAVE THE DATA TO MAKE SURE MAKES THAT YES, REQUESTABLE, BUT TWO SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, A, A GOOD ASK.

OKAY.

YOU GOOD ASK? SOUNDS GOOD TO ME.

ALL.

THANK YOU.

UHHUH.

CAN I ASK QUESTION? DO, IS IT LPR CAPABLE TOO? SOME OF 'EM DO.

THE LICENSE PLATE, IT'S NOT CAUSE IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE.

OKAY.

THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT DOES HAVE LPR, BUT I THINK IT'S TWICE THE MONEY.

PROBABLY THE LEAST.

YEAH.

OKAY.

YEAH, HIS, HIS, HIS IS REALLY EXPENSIVE.

HE LEASES HIS, YEAH.

UM, YEAH, WE'RE BUYING, WE'RE BUYING, IT'S THE LEASE DEPARTMENT.

YEAH.

OKAY.

IT'S, IT'S AROUND NIGHT.

MY, MY DISTRICT, THE MUD DISTRICT BOUGHT OURS.

THE MUD DISTRICT BOUGHT PRECINCT TWOS, RIGHT? YEAH.

OKAY.

MM-HMM.

.

YEAH.

AND ACTUALLY IT'S, IT IS CONSTABLES.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE JUST, WE USE IT, YOU KNOW, I'LL TELL 'EM, HEY, WOULD YOU SET IT UP OVER THERE SO THAT, YOU KNOW? YEAH.

AND IT COUNTS ALL THE DATA.

DATA IN THE CAR.

AND THEN, CAUSE I HAVE OTHER ONES.

I HAVE TWO OTHER ONES.

AND YOU CAN BUY THOSE WITH CAMERAS IN 'EM TOO THAT DOES THE SAME THING.

BUT, YOU KNOW, MESSAGE BOARDS.

SO ANYWAY.

OKAY.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR YOU TO, COMMISSIONER HELPS, MAKES A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS.

NEED A SECOND QUESTION? YES.

SECOND.

SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

NUMBER EIGHT, MR.

[7. Jack Sebastian; Discuss/Consider adding Juvenile Probation to Certified Payments contract.]

JACK SEBASTIAN DISCUSSED ADDING JUVENILE PROBATION TO CERTIFIED PAYMENTS CONTRACT.

GOOD MORNING GENTLEMEN.

UH, MORNING.

THEY'RE ASKING TO BE ADDED TO THAT SO THEY CAN START COLLECTING SOME FINES AND FEES AND MAKE THINGS EASIER ON THE, ON THE PUBLIC.

I'LL MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION.

OKAY.

ANY QUESTIONS, SIR? ANYONE? I NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT JACK'S PROPOSAL THEN? NO, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MOORE.

A SECOND.

SECOND.

MR. FIELDS MADE A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NONE.

IF NOT, NEED A VOTE? ALL PRESENCE SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THIS? YES.

OKAY.

OKAY.

NUMBER EIGHT.

BLESS.

[8. Jack Sebastian; Discuss/Consider adding additional licenses to Tyler Technologies contract.]

GOT AGAIN, DISCUSS, CONSIDER ADDING ADDITIONAL LICENSES TO TYLER TECHNOLOGIES CONTRACT, JACK.

GENTLEMEN, I THINK WHEN, WHEN THAT WAS SET UP, IT APPEARS THAT MAY A DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE, UH, GOT SKIPPED ON THAT PROCESS.

SO THEY NEED, UH, TOTAL 12 MORE LICENSE FOR THAT.

AND THAT TOTAL IS 16,224.

AND IS THIS AN ANNUAL AMOUNT THAT THEY PAY FOR THAT? THAT'S A ONE TIME ANNUAL ONE TIME CONTRACT.

OKAY.

ISN'T THAT, WAS THAT ONE TIME OR IS THAT A IT SAYS ANNUAL CONTRACT.

THERE'S A MAINTENANCE GROUP.

A MAINTENANCE.

MAINTENANCE.

YEAH.

THIS IS, THIS IS TO GET THE LICENSE, BUT THERE, THERE'LL BE A MAINTENANCE ON TOP OF THAT.

RIGHT.

IT WON'T BE THIS EXPENSIVE, I ASSUME.

ORIGINAL PROPOSALS FOR 10 USERS.

OKAY.

SO I HAD TO ADD MORE.

OKAY,

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GOOD.

WELL, WE HAVE THE MONEY, RIGHT? WE HAVE MONEY FOR THAT.

I'M ASSUMING I'LL, I'LL COME BACK AND ASK FOR, OKAY.

, YOU'RE GOOD ABOUT THAT? YEAH.

OKAY.

I'M THE BEST.

ALL RIGHT.

I NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT JACK'S PROPOSAL NUMBER EIGHT.

OR IS THAT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

MOTION.

MR. PHILLIPS NEED SECOND.

I'LL SECOND THE MOTION.

MR. MOORE MADE A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NONE NEED, ANYBODY SAY AYE, PLEASE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

MIKE, YOU STILL OVER THERE? YES, I OKAY, .

OKAY.

PAY ATTENTION.

NUMBER

[9. Jack Sebastian; Discuss/Consider advertising a bid for an annual contract: Toner Cartridges.]

NINE, JACK, DISCUSS, CONSIDERED ADDING A BID FOR ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR TONER CARTRIDGES.

YES, SIR.

JUST TIME TO RE TIME TO BID THIS OUT AND JUST ASK PERMISSION TO, UH, ADVERTISE AND START THAT PROCESS.

AND THAT THOSE THINGS ARE SO EXPENSIVE.

THEY ARE.

WHEN YOU, WHEN WE USE HOW MUCH EQUIPMENT DO WE DO? YES SIR.

A LOTS OF PRINTING, LOT OF TONER.

ALL THEY NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

MR. MOORE MAKES THE MOTION TO SECOND MR. PHELPS.

SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

NUMBER 10, JACK

[10. Jack Sebastian; Discuss/Consider entering into an interlocal agreement with Smith County to purchase Steel Culverts for all Road & Bridge Departments.]

AGAIN, DISCUSSED, CONSIDERED ENTERING INTO AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH SMITH COUNTY TO PURCHASE STEEL CULVERTS FOR ALL ROAD AND BRIDGE DEPARTMENTS.

YES, SIR.

GENTLEMAN, BACK IN THE DAY, WE HAD CONTRACTS FOR THAT KIND OF ITEM AND, UH, THERE'S NOT ONE IN EXISTENCE.

UH, AND THE QUICKEST PROCESS I SPOKE WITH WILSON CULVERTS WAS TO, UH, REACH OUT TO SMITH COUNTY AND THEY RECENTLY BID ONE OUT FOR CULVERTS.

AND, UH, WE DID NOT HAVE INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT IN PLACE WITH THOSE FOLKS, BUT THIS WILL ALLOW US TO DO OTHER THINGS AS WELL.

OKAY.

BUT, UH, FOR NOW I WANNA DO THAT SO WE CAN, UH, PIGGYBACK OFF THEIR COVER CONTRACT.

YOU KNOW, THE GOOD THING ABOUT THESE STEEL COVERS IS, UH, IT, IS THIS THE ONE LIKE YOU USE IN THAT PIPE? YEAH.

IT'LL LASTS FOREVER.

RIGHT? I KNOW YOU DON'T SAVE THE COUNTY MONEY IN THE LONG RUN.

AND, AND SOME OF THE LARGE STUFF'S PRETTY EXPENSIVE.

AND WE WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING THAT $50,000 LIMIT.

SO I WANTED TO GET THIS GOING.

YEAH, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE, WE BOUGHT SOME FROM THE RAIL YARD THE OTHER DAY.

EXACTLY.

YEAH.

SO, OKAY, GOOD.

YEAH.

VERY EXPENSIVE.

BUT THEY, THEY LAST A VERY LONG TIME.

SO I NEED A MOTION FOR APPROVE NUMBER 10.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

MR. COOKS MAKES THE MOTION.

I'LL SECOND MOTION.

MR. MOORE SECONDS.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

AYE.

NUMBER

[11. Monique Hunter; Discuss/Consider approving a change from Engineer Tech position in current budget to Clerk Position.]

11, MS. MONIQUE HUNTER, DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVING A CHANGE FROM ENGINEER TECH POSITION IN CURRENT BUDGET TO CLERK POSITION.

YES MA'AM.

GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING.

SO I'VE HAD IN MY BUDGET A POSITION FOR AN ENGINEER TECH AND, UM, I WAS WAITING TO FILL THAT POSITION IF IT WAS NECESSARY TO DO SO.

UM, AT THIS MOMENT WE, IT'S NOT NECESSARY.

THE NEED IS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE AND THE CLERK.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE ARE SHARING RESPONSIBILITIES WITH FIRE MARSHAL AS WELL.

YES.

AND SO, UM, I NEED A BACKUP TO THAT CLERK.

I'M HER BACKUP.

AND SO, UM, I'D LIKE TO USE THIS LINE ITEM AND CHANGE THE TITLE TO A CLERK AND IT SAVES MY BUDGET.

$3,734.

I GOT THAT FROM THE AUDITOR.

THAT INCLUDES THE SOCIAL SECURITY RETIREMENT AND WORKER'S COMP, ET CETERA.

OKAY.

SO IT'S $3,000 OR 3,700 LESS.

WELL, BUT IT SERVES A PURPOSE.

IT A NEED MORE THAN THE MONEY.

OKAY.

YES, SIR.

THAT'S GOOD.

ALRIGHT, SO I'LL LIKE TO POST IT AND GET IT TRAINED.

SOUNDS GOOD TO ME.

IF I NEED A MOTION, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

COMMISSIONER MOORE MAKES A MOTION.

NEED A SECOND? I'LL SECOND COMMISSION FIELDS.

MAKE A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

AYE.

NUMBER 12,

[12. Robert Hunter; Discuss/Consider maintenance needs and procedures for the Kaufman County Veterans Memorial Park,]

ROBERT HUNTER, DISCUSS CONSIDERED MAINTENANCE NEEDS AND PROCEDURES FOR KAUFFMAN COUNTY VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK.

YES, MR. ROBERT, HOW ARE YOU THIS MORNING, JUDGE? COMMISSIONERS LET IS WORK BEFORE, BEFORE THE COURT STARTED.

OH, THERE WE GO.

ALRIGHT, SO, SO I SENT THIS, I SENT THIS, UM, IN POWERPOINT OR SLIDE PRESENTATION TO YOU GUYS AHEAD OF TIME SO THAT YOU COULD REVIEW IT.

UM, BUT I WENT THROUGH, UH, A LOT OF THINGS HONESTLY KIND OF LED TO THIS.

UM, AND I WANTED THE, UH, I SPOKE WITH THE JUDGE AND, AND WE'LL COVER SOME OF THAT IN THIS PRESENTATION.

AND, UH, JUST WANTED TO KIND OF BRING TO Y'ALL'S ATTENTION THE, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE PARK, UH, PRIMARILY WITH THAT CONCRETE STRUCTURE AT THE, AT THE FRONT.

UM, AND, UM, AND, AND THEN JUST TO CLARIFY, UM, I GUESS THE ROLES INVOLVED IN GETTING THIS DONE, UM, IN GETTING THE WORK DONE.

AND SO, UM, WE'LL GO THROUGH THIS REAL QUICK.

LET ME SEE HERE.

SO, SO THIS IS THE,

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TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, AND I DID A WALKTHROUGH.

SO THE, THE LAST SLIDE WILL SHOW US A VIDEO, BUT THIS IS, THIS IS JUST BEHIND THE P O W FLAG.

UM, UH, SO THAT WOULD BE, IF YOU'RE STANDING AT THE FRONT OF THE PARK AND LOOKING IN, IT WOULD BE THE FLAG TO THE RIGHT.

OKAY.

AND SO YOU CAN SEE THAT JUST AT THE BASE OF THE CONCRETE FIXTURES THERE, THE PLATFORM ITSELF THAT THESE FLAG BASES ARE KIND OF A AFFIXED TO.

IT'S, THAT APPEARS TO, TO BE LIFTING.

AND THE CONCRETE WALL BEHIND IT APPEARS TO BE SINKING.

OKAY? UH, IT'S ABOUT A TWO INCH LIFT ON THAT PLATFORM.

UM, THIS IS ALSO, SO THIS IS THREE FOOT TO ITS RIGHT, UH, THIS IS THE BACKSIDE OF THAT SAME PODIUM.

AND THIS IS SOME VERY SIGNIFICANT CRACKING, UH, THAT YOU CAN SEE.

AND, AND THE CONCERN HERE IS, IS THAT WE JUST HAD ALL OF THIS REPAIRED, UM, EITHER LAST YEAR OR VERY END OF THE YEAR BEFORE.

UM, AND SO, BUT THIS, THIS CRACK IS WELL OVER, UH, THAT'S A, THAT'S WELL OVER 12 INCHES.

AND IT'S, IT'S A, AN INCH IN DEPTH.

UH, ACTUALLY, UM, HERE'S A, A LITTLE BIT FURTHER VIEW AWAY.

THIS IS JUST SO THAT YOU CAN KIND OF SEE, YOU CAN SEE IF YOU LOOK TO THE RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE THE, THE BRICKS THERE.

SO IT KIND OF GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHICH, WHICH, WHICH DIRECTION YOU'RE LOOKING AT.

UM, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS LOOKING AT IT FROM BASICALLY THE RIGHT SIDE VIEW, WHERE, WHERE I WOULD NORMALLY STAND WHEN WE'RE DOING OUR CEREMONIES, ESSENTIALLY.

OKAY, THIS IS THE LEFT.

SO THIS IS THE OPPOSITE SIDE.

THIS IS WHERE THE HANDICAP RAMP OR THE HANDICAP ACCESSIBLE RAMP IS.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THE, YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN COLOR.

AND I, I THOUGHT THIS PICTURE WAS REALLY GOOD BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE WORK THAT WE HAD DONE WAS DONE BECAUSE OF THE DIFFERENCE IN COLOR.

UM, AND SO, BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT CONCRETE THERE IS ALREADY CRACKING.

AND IF YOU LOOK TO THE RIGHT, UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE, UH, THE, THE ORIGINAL RAMP WAY IS NOW ABOUT, UH, IT'S, IT'S RIGHT UNDER AN INCH, UM, BELOW THE, UH, BELOW THAT, UM, GRANITE PLATE THAT GRANITE PLATE HAS.

UM, AND I TOOK A BETTER PICTURE HERE FOR YOU.

SO THAT GRANITE PLATE, IF YOU'LL NOTICE, IT'S, IT'S HARD TO SEE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE ABLE TO SEE IT VERY GOOD IN YOUR THING, BUT THERE'S A SMALL WHITE LINE JUST UNDER THE V IN THAT RULER THAT IS ACTUALLY REPAIR WORK THAT WAS DONE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CONCRETE WORK WHERE WE HAD HALMAN COME OUT TO DO SOME REPAIRS TO THE ACTUAL GRANITE PORTIONS OF IT WHEN WE DID THIS REPAIR.

AND THEY ACTUALLY CUT PIECES AND FIT 'EM IN AS SPACERS TO ACCOUNT FOR SOME OF, CUZ WE COULDN'T POUR SEVEN INCHES OF CONCRETE ON, ON TOP, FOR EXAMPLE.

SO THEY, THEY, THEY CAME OUT AND, AND MADE, UM, SOME, SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO THE ACTUAL SHAPE AND SIZE OF THE, UM, OF THE GRANITE.

THIS IS THE RIGHT SIDE.

AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE FLAGPOLES, IT WOULD BE THE LEFT FLAGPOLE.

SO THIS IS JUST BEHIND, UH, THE LIGHT FIXTURE, THAT FLOWER BED WITH THE TREE SHRUBS AND EVERYTHING THAT IS, UM, FI OVER FIVE INCHES OR RIGHT AT FIVE INCHES OF GAPPING.

NOW, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY BUILT THIS, THEY DIDN'T HAVE METAL EXPOSED UNDERNEATH THAT, THAT WAS ALL CLEAN.

SO THAT IS HOW MUCH SHIFTING HAS TAKEN PLACE EITHER SINCE, UH, THE, THE PARK WAS DESIGNED OR SINCE THEY DID THE REPAIRS.

I'M LEANING MORE TOWARDS THE DESIGN AND THAT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS FIXED IN THE, IN THE PREVIOUS REPAIR.

OKAY.

THE RIGHT FRONT STEPS.

SO YOU CAN SEE IN THIS PICTURE HOW WE HAD, HOW CONCRETE WAS ADDED TO THE SURFACE TOP.

UM, AND THEY DIDN'T JUST COME IN AND POUR CONCRETE EITHER.

THEY DID A LOT OF DRILLING, THEY PLACED REBAR ACROSS THE ENTIRE SURFACE OF THAT, UM, UH, PODIUM STAND, IF YOU WILL.

AND THEN THEY POURED THE CONCRETE.

UH, BUT EVEN THE NEW CONCRETE IS, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS EXPECTED.

YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU DO THAT TYPE OF, UH, YOU KNOW, THE PATCHING OR THE, THE SURFACE CLEANUP SO TO SPEAK, THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT SURPRISING THAT THAT'S CRACKED.

BUT WHAT WHAT IS NOTICEABLE IN HERE IS ALL THE WAY TO THE RIGHT, UM, OF THIS STEP, YOU'LL SEE GAP.

UM, THAT, THAT, THAT WALL, UH, THAT HOUSES THE TREE TO THE RIGHT, IS IT, THAT'S WHAT'S PULLING AWAY.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S SINKING, UH, ALONG WITH EVERYTHING ELSE.

OKAY? THIS IS THE FRONT OF THE FLAG BASE.

SO YOU CAN SEE THE WORDS.

THIS IS WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT.

YOU CAN SEE ALREADY THAT EVEN WITH THE CONCRETE ADDED, HOW WE HAVE SHIFTED, UM, AND EVEN BROKEN A PIECE OF THE CONCRETE IN THE RIGHT CORNER WHERE IT SHOW, WHERE THAT SHOWS WHERE THEY REED IT REATTACHED THAT TO THE SURFACE OF THE CONCRETE.

AND IT'S ALREADY IN JUST THIS LAST YEAR TO YEAR AND A HALF SUNK, UH, ABOUT AN INCH, UM, OFF OF THAT SURFACE.

THAT SLAB RIGHT IN FRONT OF THAT.

IS THAT, IS THE WHOLE SLAB NEW OR IT'S

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JUST THE ENTIRE SURFACE? YES, SIR.

THE ENTIRE SURFACE.

IT SURFACE.

YES.

SO THAT'S WHY THAT BROKE.

I MEAN, IT, IT'S NEVER GONNA HOLD, IT'S A COLD JOINT THAT, THAT, THAT WON'T, SOMETHING LIKE THAT WON'T HOLD.

I MEAN THERE, THE ONLY WAY THEY FIX THAT IS ACTUALLY BREAK THAT COMPLETELY UP AND WELL, AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE DISCUSSED.

YEAH, TWO COMMISSIONERS' COURTS AGO.

HOLD ON.

UM, SO HERE AGAIN, ON THE OTHER SIDE, UH, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THERE'S, THIS IS THE OPPOSITE SIDE FLAGPOLE.

YOU CAN SEE WHERE THERE'S THAT SAME, UH, SIGNIFICANT DROP.

UM, AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE THIS, UH, THE RIGHT EDGE THERE, WHERE THEY'VE MADE THAT ADDITIONAL PIECE, YOU KNOW, TO GO IN THERE.

UM, THIS IS THE OUTER WALL, JUST KIND OF, I, I WANTED TO SHOW YOU.

YOU CAN SEE THE PATCHING WHERE THEY, WHEN THEY CAME LAST TIME, WHERE THEY MADE, UH, THE PATCHING REPAIRS JUST FOR AESTHETICS.

I THINK MORE THAN ANYTHING, LIKE I SAID, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN TRULY REPAIR THOSE CRACKS.

UH, YOU CAN JUST CLEAN 'EM UP AND MAKE 'EM PRETTY.

BUT AS PART OF THAT REPAIR OR IMPROVEMENT, WE MADE THOSE PATCHWORKS AND ALREADY EVERY ONE OF THOSE PATCHWORKS ARE NOW, YOU KNOW, DEFUNCT.

UM, HERE'S A GOOD EXAMPLE.

UM, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT I, I WENT OUT THERE SPECIFICALLY AFTER WE HAD SOME WATER BECAUSE THE WATER KIND OF GETS INTO THAT CRACK AND IT HIGHLIGHTS IT TO WHERE I CAN SHOW IT TO YOU BETTER.

UM, SO YOU CAN SEE HOW THE WATER IS DOWN INSIDE THAT CRACK AS WELL AS IN THAT SEAM, UH, FROM THE PLATFORM AND THE WALL ITSELF.

I DID TAKE, UH, A MEASUREMENT OF THE OUTSIDE WALL.

I TOOK A RULER AND I, IN FACT, I DID IT RIGHT HERE.

UM, AND I PUT IT ON THE GROUND AND I MEASURED HOW MUCH OF THAT CONCRETE IS, IS EXPOSED THAT WALL.

AND THEN I PLAN TO GO BACK IN A MONTH AND TAKE ANOTHER MEASUREMENT AND ANO AND IN A MONTH TAKE ANOTHER MEASUREMENT.

CUZ I WANT TO SEE IF THAT IS WHAT THE PROBLEM IS, IF THAT OUTSIDE WALL IS WHAT'S SINKING.

BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT THE CONCRETE PLATFORM ITSELF, IT'S HOLLOW UNDERNEATH THAT.

IT'S NOT A SOLID SHEET OF CON OR I MEAN IT'S A SHEET OF CONCRETE, I THINK ON SOME PLATFORMS AT THE SURFACE OF THAT.

SO, UH, BUT I'M GONNA HAVE MORE DATA FOR YOU AS TIME GOES ON.

UM, THIS IS AGAIN, JUST MORE EXAMPLES OF THAT REPAIR WORK THAT WE HAD DONE TO THE SURFACE CRACKS, AS WELL AS HOW THE CRACKS ON TOP.

THOSE ARE, THAT'S, THAT TOP SURFACE IS ALL, THAT'S A FOUR INCH, THREE TO FOUR INCHES OF CONCRETE THAT'S NOW ALL CRACKED.

UM, HERE'S JUST ANOTHER VIEW.

THIS IS THE CENTER OR THIS IS THE CENTER? YES, THIS IS THE CENTER FLAGPOLE.

SO THIS IS THE UNITED STATES FLAGPOLE.

YOU CAN SEE THE ELECTRICAL OUTLET JUST IN FRONT.

THAT'S WHERE THE PODIUM USUALLY GOES WHEN WE DO A CEREMONY.

OKAY.

AND THEN LET'S SEE IF THIS WORKS.

I DID THIS FOR YOU GUYS JUST TO KIND OF SEE IF IT WORKS.

UH OH, COME ON.

IS IT NOT GONNA WORK? OH, YEP.

SO I JUST KIND OF DID A WALK AROUND.

YOU CAN SEE, UM, JUST, JUST THE KINDA OVERALL THIS IS WHAT YOU WOULD SEE IF YOU WERE JUST NORMALLY WALKING AND YOU CAN SEE THE CRACKS AND THE DEFICIENCIES.

JUST, YOU KNOW, AND I'M STANDING PROBABLY EIGHT FOOT OFF OF THAT WALL JUST AND JUST KIND OF WALKING AT A, AT A NORMAL PACE.

UM, YOU CAN SEE RIGHT THERE, ESPECIALLY WHERE THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT GAP BETWEEN THAT GRANITE AND THE RAMP.

YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE, THE WALL THERE WAS REPAIRED PREVIOUSLY AS WELL AS RIGHT THERE.

SEE THAT'S THE FLOWER BOX OR THE TREE BOX THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

THAT IS WHAT I THINK IS PART OF THE PROBLEM IS SINKING, CUZ THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE THE GAPS.

SO BETWEEN THAT FLOWER BOX AND THE WALL, THIS FLOWER BOX AND WHERE IT TOUCHES THE, THE FLAGPOLE, THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE THOSE GAPS THAT I WAS POINTING OUT.

UM, IT'S ALSO, UH, NOTEWORTHY THE, THAT FRONT PLATE THAT, UH, WE JUST PASSED THAT PLATE IS, THIS IS NOW THE THIRD PLATE SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE THAT WE'VE PUT ON THERE THAT, THAT VERY LARGE PRESIDENTIAL QUOTE FROM RONALD REAGAN.

UH, THE FIRST YEAR THAT IT BROKE, WE WERE, WE WERE SLIGHTLY CONCERNED THAT MAYBE SOMEBODY HAD DONE SOME VANDALISM TO THE PARK.

AND, AND I JUST BELIEVED IN MY HEART THAT THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE.

IT WAS WHETHER, UM, INSURANCE CAME OUT AND, AND THEY TOOK CARE OF THE MAJORITY OF IT.

WE STILL PAID OUT OF THE PARK MAINTENANCE FUND, UH, YOU KNOW, THE DEDUCTIBLE.

AND THEN ABOUT TWO YEARS LATER AT THE NEXT FREEZE, UH, A LARGE, VERY LARGE CRACK ALL THE WAY DOWN THE CENTER BROKE AGAIN.

AND SO THIS IS THE THIRD ONE.

AND WHEN THEY REPLACE THIS ONE HALMAN, UH, THE, THE COMPANY THAT THAT INSTALLS AND DOES THAT FOR US, SAID THAT THEY BELIEVE THAT IF THIS BREAKS AGAIN, THAT WE WON'T BE ABLE TO PUT ANOTHER ONE ON THERE BECAUSE THERE'S, HE EVEN MOUNTED IT TO THIS ONE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THAN

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BEFORE, BEFORE THEY WERE GLUED ON, WHICH IS THE STANDARD THIS TIME.

HE KIND OF HAS LIKE SOME ANCHORS THAT ARE IN THERE AND THEN THE ANCHORS ARE IN THERE SO THAT IT'S NOT, IF IT'S GLUED.

HE SAYS WHEN THAT SHIFTS AND EVERYTHING THAT GLUE'S HOLDING AND WHAT HAPPENS IS THE WEAKEST POINT BREAKS, WHICH IS THAT GRANITE PLATE VERSUS THAT LARGE CONCRETE STRUCTURE.

SO WE'RE HOPING, YOU KNOW, THAT, SO THE WAY THEY AMOUNTED THIS, IS THERE ANY WAY HE GIVES SOME LEVERAGE WITH I THINK THAT'S RIGHT.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT, YES SIR.

CUZ I THINK WHAT HE DID WAS HE PUT, UM, LIKE, UH, I DON'T WANT TO, I'M GONNA USE SILICONE CUZ IT'S HIS, HIS, HIS AREA OF EXPERTISE, BUT HE DID, HE USED A PLIABLE, UH, OKAY THING THAT WOULD GIVE A SLIGHT BIT OF MOVEMENT, ESPECIALLY DURING, UM, COLD WEATHER, YOU KNOW, LIKE FREEZING AND WHATNOT.

SO WHERE YOU HAVE THAT SLIGHT INCREASE OR DECREASE IN MASS.

SO, OKAY, SO THAT WAS THAT.

OKAY, SO WHEN YOU AND I TALKED, I ASKED YOU TO CHECK WITH SOME ENGINEERS, I'M GOING THERE.

YOU'RE GOOD MAN.

YEP, GO AHEAD.

SO PRIOR TO MY ARRIVAL, UM, IN, IN THE EARLY DAYS, UH, PRIOR TO MY ARRIVAL, REALLY A LOT OF THE MAINTENANCE DONE IN THE PARK WAS, IT WAS PRETTY MUCH JUST ORGANIZED BY RAY RAYMOND AND JOHNNY COUNTRYMAN, UM, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, UH, WITH HIS, UM, UH, TRUSTEES, THEY USED TO MOW THE GRASS AND, AND COME OUT THERE AND MOW IT, BUT, AND BOBBY BRIDGES AND THE FACILITIES CREW WOULD REPAIR SPRINKLERS IF THEY GOT BROKE OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.

BUT FOR THE MOST PART, ANYTHING MAJOR OR ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, SIGNIFICANT RAY RAYMOND JUST CALLED SOMEBODY AND HAD IT FIXED.

NOW THEY PAID FOR THAT, TYPICALLY BACK IN THOSE DAYS WITH THE REMAINDER OF THEIR, THE, THE FUND THAT WAS GENERATED TO BUILD THE PARK, UM, UH, OR OUT OF MR. RAYMOND'S PERSONAL POCKET IN SOME CASES.

NOW AS I ARRIVED, UM, I BECAME INVOLVED IN THE DAY-TO-DAY ACTIVITIES IN THE PARK.

IT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DISCUSSED IN MY INTERVIEW.

UM, YOU KNOW, MR. RAYMOND WAS ACTUALLY EVEN PART OF THE INTERVIEW PROCESS AND WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, TRYING TO TAKE OVER SOME OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES FROM, YOU KNOW, JOHNNY COUNTRYMAN AND, AND RAY RAYMOND SPECIFICALLY TOWARDS LIKE THE, THE CEREMONIES AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

UM, BUT AS TIME WENT ON, I STARTED WORKING ON THE MAINTENANCE ISSUES AS WELL, AND WE CAME BEFORE COURT, WE DEVELOPED A BUDGET AND, AND WE, WE MADE SOME MONEY SET ASIDE TO WHERE WE COULD PAY FOR THESE THINGS AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

WE MOVED SOME THINGS AROUND BECAUSE BACK IN THE OLD DAYS, IN THE EARLY DAYS, UM, THE PARK FUND PAID THE WATER BILL AND I CAME TO COURT AND SAID, WHY IS THE PARK PAYING FOR A WATER BILL, WHICH SHOULD JUST GO WITH THE REST OF THE UTILITIES AND MRS. MCLEOD? AND, AND THE COURT AT THAT TIME ALL WAS IN AGREEMENT AND WE MOVED THAT OVER TO THAT.

AND SO NOW THAT FUND THAT'S THERE JUST PAYS FOR ESSENTIALLY MAINTENANCE.

UM, SO, UH, WHEN WE DID THIS THOUGH, IT KIND OF POSED A LITTLE BIT OF A PROBLEM BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY MR. RAYMOND, UM, IT'S STILL VERY DEEPLY EN ROOTED TO HIS PARK.

HE LOVES THE PARK SO MUCH, UM, THAT SOMETIMES HE JUST GOES OUT THERE AND HAS SOMEBODY TO COME OUT AND DO STUFF.

THEN HE WAS GIVING ME THE BILL AND I TOLD HIM, I SAID, YOU, YOU CAN'T DO THIS.

YOU, YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T ORDER, THERE'S A PROCESS THAT HAS TO BE DONE.

IF WE'RE GONNA SPEND COUNTY MONEY, YOU KNOW, THE MAINTENANCE FUND, THEN I HAVE TO GO THROUGH CERTAIN PROCEDURES.

I HAVE TO GET WORK ORDER REQUEST AND CERTAIN, CERTAIN STEPS IN BUDGET OR, UH, NOT BUDGETS, UH, POS AND, AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

SO WE CAN'T DO THAT.

UH, I WORKED WITH PURCHASING, UM, AND, AND WE AGREED MOVING FORWARD THAT IF IT WAS, IF, IF HE WAS INITIATING THE WORK, IF HE WAS GONNA GO OUT AND FIND SOMEBODY TO DO WORK IN THE PARK SPECIFICALLY, THEN THE COUNTY WASN'T PAYING FOR IT.

IT HAD TO GO THROUGH ME AND THEN WE HAD TO DO POS SO THAT WE WERE DOING RIGHT.

CURRENTLY, IF AN ISSUE ARISES, I I GO OUT AND ASSESS IT.

IF IT'S AN ISSUE WITH THE GRANITE WALLS, WE CONTACT HOLMAN MEMORIALS TO ASSESS AND REPAIR, UH, SPEAKING WITH THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT AND, AND IT WOULD BE THE PREVIOUS PURCHASING DEPARTMENT.

I'VE NOT SPOKEN WITH MR. JACK.

UM, BUT THE PREVIOUS PURCHASING DEPARTMENT, UH, INFORMED ME THAT HALLMAN WOULD BE CONSIDERED A SPECIALTY ITEM AND WE DIDN'T HAVE TO GO OUT AND GET THREE DIFFERENT QUOTES AND WHAT HAVE YOU THAT, AND THEY WERE THE PEOPLE THAT HAD BUILT AND INSTALLED EVERYTHING.

SO IT WAS REALLY JUST KINDA LIKE GOING BACK AT LIKE, ALMOST LIKE A WARRANTY, BUT WE HAD TO PAY FOR IT.

UM, SO, UM, IF IT WAS SOMETHING ELSE, UH, THEN, UM, UH, I WOULD GET POS, UM, AND SUBMIT TO THE ORDER FOR PAYMENT.

OH, THAT WAS FOR, UH, HALLMAN.

IF THE PROBLEM WAS GENERAL IN NATURE, THEN I WOULD CONVERSE WITH BOBBY OR FACILITIES AND BASED ON HIS RECOMMENDATIONS, SUBMIT A WORK ORDER FOR TRACKING PURPOSES.

THE WORK ORDERS WERE BOTH SO THAT HE COULD TRACK IT, BUT ALSO SO THAT, YOU KNOW, AT THE TIME HIS SUPERVISORS COULD JUSTIFY AND MANAGE HIS WORKLOAD AS WELL.

UM, THE FACILITIES WOULD THEN EITHER FIX THE ITEMS THEMSELVES OR IF NECESSARY, THEY WOULD REACH OUT TO A CONTRACTOR, LINK ME UP WITH THAT

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CONTRACTOR, AND THEN I WOULD TAKE CARE OF GETTING POS OR A REQUEST FOR, UH, QUOTES.

AND THEN POS, UM, WE'D GET THOSE APPROVED, CONDUCT THE WORK, AND THEN SUBMIT THE INVOICE TO AUDITING.

SOMETIMES FACILITIES WOULD PROCURE REPAIR ITEMS SUCH AS LIGHTS.

THEY, THEY BOUGHT ALL OF THE LIGHTS IN THE FRONT OF THE B THE PARK, BUT WHEN HE BOUGHT THEM, HE GOT THEM AT HIS CONTRACTING OR THE ELECTRICAL SUPPLY STORE.

AND THEN HE BROUGHT ME THE LIGHTS AND THE INVOICES.

I SIGNED THE INVOICES AND TURNED THOSE IN, YOU KNOW, WITH MY LINE ITEM FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THE PARK.

UM, SO VETERAN SERVICES IS PAYING FOR THE REPAIRS, BUT FACILITIES OFTEN MANAGED IT OR AT LEAST INITIATED THE REPAIRS.

UM, ONE YEAR, UH, FACILITIES EVEN GOT US A WHOLE BUNCH OF FLOWERS, UM, GOT 'EM DONATED TO US AND WE SAT OUT THERE PLANTING FLOWERS BEFORE MEMORIAL DAY AND, UH, RAINED.

WE GOT DUMPED ON BY MOTHER NATURE AND POOR CASEY HAD A BROKEN FOOT AT THAT TIME.

SO, UM, IF, IF WE HAD A BIG ISSUE, UM, LIKE WHEN WE DID THE LIGHTS, THE LIGHTS WE PROJECTED WHEN WE GOT THE QUILTS FOR THAT WAS GONNA BE 30 SOMETHING THOUSAND, THE THE BUDGET FOR THE PARK WASN'T THAT BIG.

SO THEN WE WOULD APPEAR BEFORE COMMISSIONER'S COURT TALK WITH YOU GENTLEMEN AND GET EITHER A BUDGET.

WE DID, UH, THE LIGHTS AS PART OF THE BUDGET, UH, BUT IF IT WAS SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR, THEN WE WOULD COME AND TALK TO YOU AND WE WOULD TAKE THE NECESSARY ACTIONS FROM THERE.

UH, SO FAR ON OCTOBER 25TH, UH, WHICH WOULD BE TWO COMMISSIONER COURTS AGO, FOR THE QUARTERLY REPORTS THAT I DO, UH, I APPEARED BEFORE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND PRESENTED THE ISSUE AT HAND.

THE COURT INSTRUCTED ME TO INITIATE A WORK ORDER THROUGH FACILITIES.

OCTOBER 26TH, I INITIATED THAT WORK ORDER INTO FACILITIES TICKETING SYSTEM.

ON JANUARY 19TH, I CONDUCTED AN IN BRIEF WITH JUDGE, JUDGE, UH, ALLEN AND BRIEFED HIM ON THE STATUS OF THE PARK AND THE MAINTENANCE NEEDS.

WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS AND HE RECOMMENDED THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, I MIGHT SEE IF MR. RAYMOND, UH, HAS SOME CONTACTS LIKE, UH, AN ENGINEER OR SOMETHING THAT COULD COME OUT AND MAYBE PROVIDE US WITH A SITUATION REPORT ON A SEVERITY.

UH, AGAIN, KIND OF LINKING IT BACK, IS THIS SOMETHING WE WANT TO REPAIR OR IS IT SOMETHING WE WANT TO START OVER? UM, SO, UH, JANUARY 23RD I CHAIRED THE ANNUAL MEETING OF THE FRIENDS OF KAUFMAN COUNTY.

WE DISCUSSED THE, THE REPAIR.

UH, I BROUGHT IT UP TO MR. RAYMOND AND DANNY BOOTH, WHO'S A BOARD MEMBER, UM, ACTUALLY TOOK THE LEAD ON THIS AND SAID THAT HE HAD A CONTACT THAT HE WOULD GET IN TOUCH WITH AND HE WOULD GET US AN ENGINEER.

UM, I HAVE SPOKEN WITH HIM SINCE, UH, DOING THAT.

HE HAS SPOKEN WITH THE ENGINEER AND THEY WILL CONTACT ME WHERE THE THREE OF US CAN MEET OUT THERE AND ACTUALLY DO THAT.

AND OF COURSE WHEN THEY DO, I'LL, I'LL PROVIDE FEEDBACK.

OKAY, GOOD.

UM, THEN ON 24TH OF JANUARY, I MET WITH THE COUNTY JUDGE, INFORMED HIM THAT I HAD COMPLETED HIS RECOMMENDATION AND HE SAID HE SUGGESTED THAT I PUT TOGETHER SOME OF THIS FOR, FOR THE NEXT COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

UM, SOME OF THIS WAS BECAUSE DURING THIS PROCESS SO FAR, UM, THERE CAME INTO QUESTION, UM, WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR ACTUALLY DOING THE, THE, THE WORK, I GUESS IN THE PARK.

UM, SO, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, I I I BELIEVE THAT, UH, THE PARK NO DIFFERENT THAN THE LIBRARY OR THIS BUILDING THAT WE'RE IN.

IF THE, IF THE LABORATORY IN THERE HAS A BAD TOILET, THEN SOMEBODY FROM THIS BUILDING IS GONNA CONTACT FACILITIES, PUT IN A WORK ORDER, AND THE WORK IN FACILITIES IS GONNA COME AND ADDRESS IT.

THE PARK, IT'S A COUNTY PROPERTY OR A COUNTY FACILITY.

UM, SO I WOULD THINK THAT IF SOMETHING WERE WRONG, I WOULD SUBMIT A WORK ORDER AND FACILITIES WOULD ADDRESS IT.

IN THE PAST, WE'VE KIND OF DONE THAT, UM, WITH MAYBE JUST A SLIGHT DIFFERENCE IS THAT IF WE NEEDED AN OUTSIDE CONTRACTOR OR SOMEBODY LIKE THAT, THEN TYPICALLY BOBBY WOULD LINK ME UP WITH THAT PERSON AND ALLOW ME TO MANAGE IT FROM THERE INSTEAD OF HIM BEING, BUT HE WOULD STILL BE INVOLVED.

HE WOULD CHECK IN WITH ME, HE WOULD, HE WOULD CHECK ON IT.

SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD NOW, LIKE I SAID AT THE PREVIOUS COMMISSIONER'S COURT, WE ALL SAID THIS SHOULD BE SUBMITTED AS A WORK ORDER.

UM, BUT I KNOW THAT THE, THE COURTHOUSE, THE, THE, THE JUSTICE CENTER RATHER, IT WAS A HUGE PROJECT AND IT'S TAKEN A LOT OF RESOURCES AND TIME ON A LOT OF FOLKS.

UM, BUT WHEN I CHECKED WITH MR. BRIDGES, UH, WHEN I CHECKED WITH BOBBY ABOUT THE STATUS OF THE WORK ORDER, WE KIND OF, I KIND OF LEFT THE MEETING UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT HE FELT LIKE MAYBE THIS WASN'T SOMETHING FACILITIES WAS GOING TO DO ANYMORE.

UM, AND FACT HE QUESTIONED AS TO WHAT MY JOB DESCRIPTION WAS WITH REGARDS TO THE PARK.

AND I'M LIKE, WELL, THE JOB DESCRIPTION DOESN'T SAY I DO THE MAINTENANCE IN THE PARK, IT JUST SAYS I'M SUPPOSED TO BE INVOLVED.

UM, AND SO I KIND OF GOT THE FEELING LIKE MAYBE SINCE THERE'S NOT REALLY ANYTHING ANYWHERE WRITTEN TO THAT DEGREE THAT I SHOULD PROBABLY, AND BASED ON, UH, JUDGE ALLEN'S INPUT,

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I SHOULD COME BACK TO Y'ALL AND MAKE SURE THAT I'M DOING WHAT I'M SUPPOSED TO DO AND, AND WHAT YOU WANT ME TO DO AND WHAT THE INTENT IS AND MAKING SURE THAT OUR PARK IS BEING TAKEN CARE OF AT THE LEVEL THAT WE WANT IT TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.

AND, AND MAKING SURE WE, WE CLARIFY IN THE END WHO ULTIMATELY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR, FOR SOME OF THAT STUFF.

UM, I THINK THE TWO COMMISSIONERS COURTS AGO I TALKED ABOUT GETTING AN ENGINEER AND IT WAS THE COURT'S OPINION AT THAT TIME THAT AS A VETERAN SERVICE OFFICER, I HAVE OTHER THINGS TO DO THAT I SHOULD NOT BE LOOKING FOR ENGINEERS.

AND I WAS TOLD TO SUBMIT A WORK ORDER, WELL HAVE TO GO AT IT THIS WAY, LET'S WAIT UNTIL SEE WHAT RAY RAYMOND COMES UP WITH Y'ALL'S NEXT MEETING MM-HMM.

, WHATEVER THAT MAY, MAY BE WITH THAT ENGINEER, WHOEVER THAT IS.

AND THEN LET'S LOOK AT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.

BUT IT STILL BELONGS TO THE COUNTY.

IT'S A COUNTY FACILITY AND WE MAY HAVE TO GO OUTSIDE AND HAVE REPAIRS DONE, OR MAYBE SOMETHING WE COULD DO IN HOUSE.

IF IT'S SOMETHING IN HOUSE WE COULD DO, THEN WE'LL DO THAT.

BUT IF IT'S NOT, THEN OBVIOUSLY WE'LL HAVE TO GO OUT AND CONTRACT IT.

I AGREE WITH THAT A HUNDRED PERCENT.

BUT WHEN, IF SO, WHEN I HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS NEEDING REPAIRED, MY INSTRUCTIONS ARE TO SUBMIT A WORK ORDER TO FACILITIES AS I, AS I HAVE IN THE PAST.

YES.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

YES.

ALL COUNTY PROPERTY SHOULD BE REPAIRED BY THE FACILITIES DEPARTMENT.

YES.

OKAY.

THERE'S NOBODY THAT'S GONNA REPAIR ANY, ANY OF THEIR BUILDINGS EXCEPT THROUGH FACILITIES ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

RIGHT.

I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THAT FACILITIES ISN'T ALWAYS GONNA BE THE ONE DOING THE WORK.

WELL, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE WORK IS, RIGHT? IT'S, THEY'RE NOT ALL MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO DO IT, BUT THEY STILL, EITHER THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO EITHER HAVE TO HIRE AN ENGINEER, AND JACK CAN CORRECT ME HERE IF I'M WRONG, BUT WHEN WE HIRE ENGINEERS, THAT'S ACTUALLY A THING THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO PUT OUT TO, TO, UH, SOME TO REQUEST HIRE THE ENGINEER TO GIVE EVERYBODY THE OPTION TO, TO BID ON SOMETHING TO DO THAT.

YEAH.

BUT TO BE CLEAR, FACILITIES HAS BEEN PHENOMENAL.

UM, THE BENCHES THEY INSTALLED ALL OF THE BENCHES.

I MEAN, UH, YOU KNOW, AND, AND IT SHOULD, I'M DONE.

I'M NOT COMPLAINING.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I THINK WE ALL KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING HERE AND I THINK WE'RE ALL SET.

YEAH.

SO WHENEVER WE GET MORE INFORMATION, THEN WE NEED TO BRING IT BACK TO US AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE.

ROGER THAT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF ME PERTAINING TO THIS? NO, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, AND, AND IT, AND, AND IT IS JUST LIKE THE REST OF THE BUILDINGS, IT'LL FALL IN ORDER, YOU KNOW, ON MONEY-WISE.

I MEAN, SOMETIMES WE MIGHT NOT HAVE MONEY TO FIX IT.

THAT'S RIGHT.

TAKE ANOTHER YEAR.

OR WE MIGHT HAVE TO ASK FOR, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S AN EMERGENCY TYPE THING, WE THAT'S, IF IT'S GONNA FALL OVER AND HURT SOMEBODY, THEN IT GETS INTO EXTREME EMERGENCY, YOU KNOW? YES.

JACK, I'D LIKE TO BRING ONE BACK AND, AND I UNDERSTAND THE OTHER GENTLEMAN IS HELPING WITH THE ENGINEERS, HE'S BRINGING QUOTES BACK AND THERE MAY BE A THOUGHT THAT IF HE DID THAT, THAT WE DON'T GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.

BUT THE REAL THUMB IS IF, IF THE COUNTY WRITES A CHECK RIGHT? THEN WE STILL GOTTA GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO'S WORKING FOR YOU, YOU KNOW, DONATE HIS TIME.

IF HE'S HIRED ENGINEERS AND WE GET THE BILL ON US, WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, WE'RE NOT GONNA GET A BILL.

WE'RE JUST ASKING WHAT, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE ASKING ESSENTIALLY A FRIEND TO COME OUT AND VOLUNTEER HIS TIME IN HONOR OF THE PARK TO JUST PROVIDE US WITH AN ASSESSMENT OF WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD TRY TO REPAIR, RESTRUCTURE, OR WHETHER OR NOT, AS I BROUGHT BEFORE THE COURT BEFORE, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT WE MAY HAVE TO TEAR THE WHOLE, THAT WHOLE PORTION OF THAT STRUCTURE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE GROUND AND START OVER WITH THAT.

AND ONCE WE GET THE RECOMMENDATIONS, WHICH DIRECTION TO GO.

YEAH.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M NOT PAYING HIM.

SOMEBODY DOESN'T TURN INVOICE IN, RIGHT? NOPE.

I'M NOT PAYING.

WELL, I'M, I WAS ON BOARD JACK SAYING, HEY, WE DON'T WANT TO ENGINEER BILL THAT OUTSIDE OF OUR EXACTLY.

YEAH.

WITHOUT US GETTING APPROVAL, WELL WITHOUT, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? PERSON APPROVAL.

YES, SIR.

THANK YOU ROBERT.

AND I KNOW THEY'RE OFFERING YOU HELP, BUT I THINK WHAT S***T SEEMS TO YEAH.

THROUGH THE COUNTY, THROUGH THE PROCESS.

SO IS THIS GOTTA GO THROUGH THE PROCESS? YES, SIR.

YEP.

YOU KNOW, UH, MR. BRIDGES, YOU KNOW, YOU TURNING IN, HE'S GOTTA BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.

I MEAN, AND HE'S GOTTA STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND WE NOT BRING HIM HERE.

WE'LL ASK HIM WHY NOT? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, ITEM NUMBER

[13. Commissioner Moore; Discuss/Consider accepting the interlocal agreement between Kaufman County Pet. 4 and the City of Combine.]

13 MM-HMM.

COMMISSIONER MOORE, DISCUSS, CONSIDER ACCEPTED IN LOCAL REMA BETWEEN KAUFMAN COUNTY PRECINCT FOUR AND THE CITY OF COMBINE.

YES.

UH, THIS IS GONNA BE, UH, THIS, UH, THE TIME OF YEAR.

WE'RE SENDING OUT ALL OF OUR INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS TO ALL OF OUR LITTLE CITIES THROUGHOUT PRECINCT FOUR.

SO WE'D MAILED OUT, UH, ALL THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS SO THAT IF THEY NEED US TO DO PROJECTS, WE CAN ASSIST THEM IN THAT.

THESE ARE CITIES SO FAR, I'VE SENT 'EM BACK, SO WE'LL, WE'LL BE RECEIVING 'EM THROUGHOUT THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS PROBABLY, BUT I ASKED THAT, UH, WE ACCEPT THAT INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT TO ASSIST THE CITY.

SO, OKAY, SO YOU MAKING THAT RECOMMENDATION? YES, SIR.

I'M GONNA MAKE THAT MOTION

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TO ACCEPT IT.

OKAY.

NEED A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

SECOND.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ALL AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

AYE.

ALL RIGHT.

[14. Commissioner Moore; Discuss/Consider accepting the interlocal agreement with the City of Rosser.]

NUMBER 14, COMMISSIONER MOORE, AGAIN, ACCEPTING INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF ROSS.

UH, SAME THING HERE.

SAME THING, SAME DIFFERENT VERSE.

SO I MAKE THAT MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT AS WELL FOR DECISION MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MOORE.

I'LL THANK IT AGAIN FOR YOU, MR. PHELPS.

MAKES A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

COMMISSIONER

[15. Commissioner Moore; Discuss/Consider purchasing a Ditch Pro attachment for a wheel loader for cleaning ditches, base price of unit - $34,770,]

MOORE, AGAIN, DISCUSS, UH, AND CONSIDER PURCHASING A DITCH PRO ATTACHMENT FOR A WHEEL LOADER FOR CLEANING DITCHES BASE PRICE UNIT.

IT'S $34,770.

UH, THIS IS A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT'LL GO IN FRONT OF A WHEEL LOADER.

UH, IT HELPS, IT'S BASICALLY GOT, UH, ATTACHED PICTURES TO IT FOR THE COURT, UH, AND THE ATTACHMENT.

AND, UH, BASICALLY WHAT IT IS, IT'S GONNA BE A TOOL INSTEAD OF HAVING THE OLD TRADITIONAL, UH, DITCH CLEANERS THAT THROW MUD, OR THIS ONE ACTUALLY CUTS IT OUTTA THE YARD AT A TIME, YOU PUT IT IN THE BACK OF THE DUMP TRUCK.

IT'S MADE FOR CLEANING DITCHES OR CUTTING DITCHES.

IT'S GOT THE ANGLES CUTS SO WE CAN GET IN SOME OF THESE TIGHT ROADS THAT HAVE TREE LINES ON THEM.

SO, UH, THE BASE PRICE OF THE UNIT WAS 28,620 WITH TWO ATTACHMENT ARMS FOR THE TRACTOR.

UH, IT WOUND TO BE 1800 MORE ON THAT THAN WITH THE TOTAL PRICE BEING 34,770.

SO I DISCUSSED THIS WITH THE ROAD AND BRIDGE CREW.

THEY THINK, THINK IT'LL BE A GOOD TOOL, UH, TALK WITH JACK, UH, THROUGH, UH, PURCHASING AND WHAT WE, I THINK WE HAD AN AGREEMENT.

JACK, WOULD YOU COME UP? AND HE WAS TALKING TO THE GENTLEMAN AT DITCH PRO AND HOW WE'RE GONNA GO ABOUT PURCHASING THAT.

I THINK THE PLAN WAS, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THAT UH, UH, THEY CHARGE YOU AN INBOUND FREIGHT, WHICH IS INCLUDED ON, ON THE INVOICE.

AND UH, IF YOU DECIDE TO RETURN IT, YOU CAN RETURN IT.

UH, THEN YOU PAY THE OUTBOUND FREIGHT BACK TO THE, UH, EITHER TO THE NEXT PERSON GONNA TRY IT OUT OR BACK TO THE FACTORY.

RIGHT.

SO I PROPOSED THAT THE THING WITH THE, WITH THE VENDOR, AND HE AGREED IT WAS A GOOD IDEA, WAS TO, UH, SET UP A, UH, ONE MONTH LEASE THAT INCLUDED THE INBOUND FREIGHT AND THE OUTBOUND FREIGHT.

IF WE DECIDE TO KEEP THE MACHINE THAT'S APPLIED TO THE, UH, MACHINE.

OKAY.

AND WE ISSUE PO FOR THE MACHINE.

IF NOT, IF WE DECIDE TO RETURN IT, THEN WE HAVE ALREADY PAID THE INBOUND AND OUTBOUND FREIGHT.

I THINK IT'D BE A GOOD WAY TO DO IT LEASE PER MONTH.

AND THEN I DIDN'T WANT TO ISSUE A PO OR SOMETHING WE MIGHT WANNA RETURN.

UH, BUT I, I THINK THAT PLAN WOULD WORK OUT PRETTY GOOD.

SAFE STAY.

AND HE AGREED IT.

HE THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA.

YEAH.

OKAY.

AND, UH, WE WILL BE ADDING A, ON THIS ATTACHMENT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A THIRD HYDRAULIC VALVE FOR AN EXTENSION OF THE ATTACHMENT.

SO, UH, WE'RE HAVING THAT DONE THROUGH OUR EQUIPMENT AND, UH, BUDGETING DYLAN.

AND ALSO, UH, IF FOR SOME REASON WE DIDN'T USE IT, WE COULD ALWAYS USE THAT THIRD VALVE FOR SHERE OR WHATEVER, ANOTHER ATTACHMENT FOR THAT WHEEL LOAD OR SOMETHING.

AND YOU HAVE MONEY TO BUDGET? YES, SIR.

MUST HAVE MONEY IN MY EQUIPMENT BUDGET.

DIDN'T TALK TO ME, BUT I'LL FIND IT.

I'M SORRY, DARREN, I'M IN TROUBLE.

IS IT? AND I BELIEVE THIS IS ALSO, IT'S PRETTY COOL ATTACHMENT.

I'M SORRY, JACK.

I BELIEVE THIS IS ALSO A SOLE SOURCE TYPE ITEM.

OKAY.

EVEN THOUGH IT'S WELL BELOW 50, BUT IT IS A, SO, OKAY, GOOD DEAL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YEAH.

SO MR. MOORE, ARE YOU MAKING THAT? YES SIR.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION TO PURCHASE THAT ITEM OR DUE TO LEASE AND WITH THE INTENTION OF HOPEFULLY TO PURCHASE THAT ITEM TO BE USED FOR THE PRECINCT FOUR ROAD BRIDGE.

OKAY.

I HAVE THE MOTION.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I HAVE A SECOND.

SECOND.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

NUMBER

[16. Commissioner Moore; Discuss/Consider accepting the interlocal agreement with the City of Scurry.]

16, COMMISSIONER MOORE, AGAIN, UH, DISCUSS, UH, CONSIDER ACCEPTING THE INTER AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF SCURRY AND THAT'LL BE THE SAME AS THE ROSTER AND THE COMBINED ONES, WE'RE JUST DOING OUR ANNUAL INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.

OKAY.

SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION ACCEPT THAT AS WELL FOR NEED A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND IT.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

NUMBER 17, CAN I ASK QUESTIONS? YES, MA'AM.

ON YOUR ITEM 13, 14, AND 16, THERE'S CERTAIN PROCEDURES THAT THE COURT HAS ADOPTED THAT YOU HAVE TO COMPLY WITH AND OKAY.

YOUR ADMIN ASSISTANCE MEETING WITH US TOMORROW AFTERNOON.

OKAY.

I'M GONNA INSTRUCT HER HOW WE WANT THIS DONE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SOUNDS GOOD.

THANK YOU.

YOU OKAY.

OUR SHERIFF BEAVERS WHOOP WHIT BLANK.

PRESENT

[17. Sheriff Beavers; Present/Accept the Sheriff's Office monthly report.]

AND ACCEPT SHERIFF'S OFFICE MONTHLY REPORT.

YES SIR.

GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN.

AS I'VE SENT YOU EVERYTHING FOR US NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, AND THEN I WENT AHEAD AND TOLD THE END OF THE YEAR TO KNOCK IT ALL OUT AT ONCE.

NOTHING REALLY OUTTA THE ORDINARY.

YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHERE WE'VE, UH, BEEN THROUGH THE YEAR IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER.

UH, I WILL SAY ONE THING WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT ANIMAL CONTROL, IF YOU LOOK AT THE END OF THE YEAR, CUZ THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT,

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UH, STUFF TO LOOK AT, UH, YOU'LL SEE THAT OUR PROPERTY RECOVERS.

UH, WE DID 2.5 MILLION.

THAT'S A 22%.

SO I GIVE CREDIT TO THE, THE, THE MEN AND WOMEN OUT THERE WORKING HARD ON RECOVERING STOLEN PROPERTY.

BUT IF YOU'LL KIND OF GO THROUGH THERE, EVERYTHING'S PRETTY WELL IN THE OR EAST SIDE.

CALLS FOR SERVICE, YOU SEE IT'S STILL UP 13%.

UH, REST, NARCOTICS ARE UP.

UH, THE AMOUNT OF NARCOTICS WE'VE RECOVERED IS, UH, ALSO, UH, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL'S DOWN.

IF YOU CAN REMEMBER, WE KIND OF SWAPPED THAT OVER.

UH, SO THAT WAS TWO MONTHS OF THAT.

SO IT WAS DOWN TRANS UH, PORTS WERE UP OVER 16%.

AND, UH, ANIMAL CONTROL, IF Y'ALL NOTICE THAT, REMEMBER THAT WAS TWO MONTHS WITHOUT THAT.

RIGHT.

WE KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEAL OF THAT.

IT WENT UP, UH, OVER 17%.

SO THAT TELLS YOU WHERE WE ARE WITH ANIMAL CONTROL FOR THE YEAR.

SO OTHER THAN THAT, AND THEN WE'RE, AS FAR AS THE END OF THE YEAR ON ALL THE FINES AND UNDER THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE ONE 14, I'VE GIVEN YOU ALL THE INFORMATION THAT I GET ON, UH, CIVIL MONEY IMPOUND, CASH AND ALL THAT.

WE DID.

882,000 286 52.

THAT'S A LOT.

YES SIR.

A LOT OF, A LOT OF BUSY.

AND AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW, IT'S GONNA BE MORE AND MORE.

YES SIR.

NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.

A LOT OF CASH.

BONDS.

A LOT OF CASH.

MARK.

YEAH.

YES SIR.

YEAH, SIR.

THANK YOU.

3000.

YEAH, A LOT.

ANY COMMENTS FROM ME? YOU GUYS? QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? ANY MOTIONS TO ACCEPT HIS REPORT? THEN I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

I'LL MR. SECOND.

A MOTION.

MR. PHILLIPS MADE A MOTION BEFORE SECONDING.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THANK YOU.

MOTION, GARY.

WELL WELCOME.

KINDA HARD LOOKING AT HIM SOMETIMES.

I'M SORRY.

.

OKAY.

UH, NUMBER

[18. Sheriff Beavers; Present/Accept the Sheriff's Office racial profiling report for 2022.]

18, SHERIFF BEAVERS PRESENT AND ACCEPT THE SHERIFF'S RACIAL PROFILING REPORT FOR 2022.

YES SIR.

WE'RE, WE ARE FILLING OUT THE MANDATES OF LAW.

UH, LIKE I SAY, I THINK, UH, THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE BETTER REPORTS THAT I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THIS YEAR, UH, OVER THE SEVERAL YEARS I'VE BEEN DOING THIS EVER SINCE 2001 WHEN THIS BY LEGISLATORS IN SENATE BILL 10 74.

UH, IF YOU KIND OF GO OVER THE SUMMARY PAGE KIND OF GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF VARI BETWEEN RESIDENTS AND NON-RESIDENTS AND ALL THE CONTACTS.

I THINK IF WE HAVE TO COMPARE AND ANALYZE THE DATA BY LAW WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, I BREAK IT APART INTO RESIDENTS AND NON-RESIDENTS.

THAT'S ALSO WHAT WE DO BECAUSE MY DATA IS RESIDENTS, SO IT KIND OF MAKES IT WHERE WE'RE COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES THAT ARE APPLE TO ORANGES.

SO YOU CAN SEE ALL THE CONTACTS WE'VE DID AND YOU CAN SEE THE VARIANCES WITH OUR, UH, CENSUS DATA.

BUT THEN WHEN YOU GET INTO THE RESIDENCE, YOU CAN SEE ALSO WHERE THAT IS CUZ THAT VARIES WITH US WITH INTERSTATE 2080 AND 1 75 WITH ALL THE CORRIDORS OF PEOPLE TRAVELING.

UH, SO YOU SEE THAT.

SO OUR VARIANCES ARE PRETTY GOOD.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE DOWN THERE ALSO OUR SEARCHES.

I WENT AHEAD AND PUT THAT SEARCH OF HOW MANY PEOPLE WE SEARCHED AND YOU CAN SEE THAT, THAT WE'RE, WE ARE NOT SHOWING ANY SIGNS OR ANYTHING, UH, WHERE WE'RE SHOWING ANY RACIAL PROFILING, UH, IN OUR DEPARTMENT.

YOU CAN ALSO LOOK AT WE, OUR CAD REPORT.

I'M VERY BIG ON THIS.

I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS.

I'M REALLY BIG ON WHEN WE MAKE TRAFFIC STOPS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOCUMENTING THEM.

IF YOU CAN NOTICE OUR CAD REPORTS, WE DID 26 32 TRAFFIC STOPS AND OUR CITATIONS 26 19, WE HAVE A 99.5% RATIO ON COLLECTING OUR PROFILE AND DATA.

YEAH.

UH, FAR AS THE, UH, COMPLAINT PROCESS, I ALSO PUT ALL THAT IN THERE.

AND ALSO POLICY.

AND IT HAS A GOOD, UH, BREAKDOWN ON EVERYTHING.

COMPARING THE DATA THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT, UH, CORRECTIVE ACTION.

UH, YOU CAN ALSO SEE THAT WE HAD NO COMPLAINTS.

THERE WAS NO NEED FOR ANY CORRECTIVE ACTIONS.

YOU ALSO GET A COPY OF OUR, UH, VIDEO POLICY, OUR BIAS RACIST POLICY.

AND SO I THINK WE HAD A REALLY GOOD REPORT.

UM, AND APPRECIATE THE, THE MEN AND WOMEN AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE THAT DO A GREAT JOB IN MAKING CONTACT WITH OUR CITIZENS AND ALSO OUR TRAVELING PUBLIC TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING A GOOD JOB IN THAT WE'RE TRANSPARENT AND HELPFUL WITH OUR COMMUNITY.

OKAY.

THAT'S VERY, VERY COMPLETE AND I APPRECIATE THAT CUZ THERE'S NO QUESTION IN OUR MINDS AS TO WHAT'S HAPPENING AND WHERE IT'S HAPPENING AND IT'S BROKEN DOWN SO WE CAN ALL UNDERSTAND IT.

OF THE TOTAL SEARCHES, ARE MOST OF 'EM COMING FROM THE INTERSTATE, YOU THINK? OR NO? YOU, YOU CAN LOOK BACK HERE OFF EVERYWHERE.

IT'S A, IT'S PRETTY WELL CAUSE WE GOT IT BROKE DOWN BY ROADS.

MM-HMM.

, UH, IS THERE, IT TELLS YOU COUNTY ROADS AND I GOTTA FIND IT HERE.

CAUSE WE EVEN ALSO PUT THE USE OF FORCE AND ALL THAT DONE.

WE GOT TRAFFIC STOPS ON THERE.

I GOTTA FIND IT WHERE IT'S AT AND WHAT YOU CAN SEE, WE GOT A LOT MORE, UH, WARNINGS

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INSTEAD OF VIOLATION.

VIOLATION, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

.

RIGHT.

IT'S IN HERE SOMEWHERE.

JUDGE WHERE WE STOP.

YEAH, WE DID.

UH, ON ALL OUR, OUR 26 19 OUR STOPS IS, UH, CITY STOPS IS 355.

YES.

HIGHWAYS IS 1,013.

STATE.

UH, HIGHWAY IS 3 77.

COUNTY ROADS IS 8 0 6.

PRIVATE PROPERTY OR THE PRIVATE ROADS IS 68.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE SHERIFF? NO, IT'S, IT'S A GOOD REPORT.

OKAY.

AS ALWAYS.

GREAT JOB.

YEAH, I APPRECIATE IT.

I'LL TRY TO BE VERY TRANSPARENT ONCE IT COME TO THIS.

IT IS RACIAL PROFILING REPORT.

THANK YOU.

I NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT HIS REPORT.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

MR. PHELPS.

MOTION TO ACCEPTED.

NEED A SECOND? NO.

SECOND.

MR. MOORE SEXES.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

NUMBER

[19. Constable Woodall; Discuss/Consider approving the transfer of Carmen Girdley from the Kaufman County Sheriff's Office to Kaufman County Pct.3 Constable's office,]

19, CONSTABLE WOODALL DISCUSSED CONSIDER APPROVING THE TRANSFER OF CARMEN UH, GURLEY.

IS THAT RIGHT? YES.

FROM THE KAUL COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO THE KAEL COUNTY PRECINCT THREE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE.

YES, SIR.

UH, YES.

WE JUST, UH, ASKED FOR THE APPROVAL OF, UH, TRANSFER OF CARMEN GURLEY, UH, THE SHERIFF AND I HAVE HAD MULTIPLE, UH, DISCUSSIONS, UH, REGARDING THIS EMPLOYEE AND, AND WE, UH, BOTH, UH, AGREEING TO THE TRANSFER.

OKAY.

I NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT IT THEN.

PROVE IT.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

COMMISSIONER MOORE MAKES A MOTION.

I'LL THANK IT MR. PHELPS.

SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

[20. Auditor; Discuss/Consider line-item and budget transfers/corrections.]

UH, MR. AUDITOR, DISCUSS LINE, ITEM AND BUDGET TRANSFERS.

THESE WERE EMAILED TO YOU TO REVIEW.

YES.

SO DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? DO YOU WANNA HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO, I DON'T.

AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE THE LINE.

I TRANSFER.

THANK YOU.

MOTION MADE BY MR. PHILLIPS.

NEED A SECOND? NO.

SECOND.

COMMISSIONER MOORE.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU MR.

[21. Auditor; Discuss/Consider claims for payment and/or Financial Information as provided by the County Auditor.]

AUDITOR.

NUMBER 21, DISCUSS CONSIDERED CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT OR FINANCIAL INFORMATION IS PROVIDED BY THE COUNTY AUDITOR.

ALL RIGHT.

YOUR TOTAL, UH, CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT ARE 1,000,020 $6,698 AND 72 CENTS.

A PAYROLL OF $1,671,777 AND 53 CENTS FOR A TOTAL PAYOUT OF 2,698,000 476 25.

AND THAT INCLUDES THE BILLS FROM LAST WEEK WHEN WE HAD THE SNOW AND THE CURRENT ONES.

OKAY.

SO, THANK YOU.

ANY DISCUSSION? DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE? NEED A MOTION? NO.

MAKE THAT MOTION COMMISSION MOORE MAKES A MOTION.

I'LL SECOND.

AND COMMISSIONER PHELPS SECTION.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

YES, MA'AM.

NUMBER

[22. Judge Allen; Discuss/Consider exiting regular meeting and enter an executive session Pursuant to Section 551.089 of the Texas Government Code, deliberation regarding Security Devices or Security Audits, the Commissioners Court will meet in closed session per Constable Matt Woodall to discuss elections security.]

22, DISCUSSING REGULAR MEETING.

ENTER, ENTER EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51 0.089 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE DELIBERATING REGARDING SECURITY DEVICES OR SECURITY AUDITS.

THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT WILL MEET IN CLOSED SESSION PER CONSTABLE MATT WOODALL TO DISCUSS ELECTION SECURITY.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

MOTION.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS SECOND.

COMMISSIONER MOORE.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

WE ARE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE GET A HIGH FROM THE BOX.

AYE.

AYE.

YOU COME OUTTA THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

MAKE THE MOTION.

I'LL SECOND.

SECONDED.

ALL IN FAVORS SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

WE'RE NOW BACK TO REGULAR SESSION.

NEED A MOTION TO

[23. Judge Allen; Discuss/Consider exiting executive session and enter back into a regular meeting,]

DO THAT? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO DO THAT.

MAKE MOTION TO COME BACK.

I'LL SECOND MR. MOORE.

SECOND IT ALL IN FAVOR? AND SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION WHETHER YOU HAVE NO, NOTHING COMING OUT.

I'M SORRY.

THAT'S OKAY.

YOU GOT IT.

JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE I GOT ALL THE MOTIONS.

WE, WE GOOD? WE GOT 'EM ALL.

OKAY.

NOW I NEED A MOTION TO, AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION ADJOURN.

ADJOURN.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO ENTER INTO

[25. Workshop - Discuss the Historical Courthouse floor plans.]

A WORKSHOP AND WE'RE GOING OVER TO THE OLD COURTHOUSE.

AND I'LL SECOND HIS MOTION AND WE, WE'VE ADJOURNED.

I, HE SAID THE MO THE MOTION.

ENSURE THE WORKSHOP TO THE WORKSHOP.

MOTION TO THE WORKSHOP COMMISSION.

BORIS.

SECOND IT.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AND SO NOW BOBBY IS OUT SICK.

SUE, WHO HAS THE KEY TO GET IN? I GOT A KEY TO GET IN THE SHERIFF.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THE PURPOSE OF THAT IS WE'RE GONNA GO OVER, I'M GONNA HAMMERING MY CAR.

.

HUH? I GOT HAMMERING IT THOUGH.

YOU GOT A CAR TOO? KEYS? YEAH.

ALL THE KEYS SHOULD WORK.

AND WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE FLOOR PLAN.

I HAVE SEVERAL OFFICES WHO'VE ALREADY DECIDED WHERE THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE,

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AND TANDY IS GOING ALSO.

SO WE'RE GONNA LOOK AND SEE WHAT WALLS MAY OR MAY NOT NEED TO BE MOVED AND TRY AND GET THIS DONE QUICKLY.

AND THEN WE'LL HAVE H O K COME IN ONCE WE DETERMINE WHO, WHERE TO GET A DRAWING AND GET THE RENOVATION UNDERWAY.

OKAY.

SOUND GOOD TO ME? SO THAT'S OUR PLAN.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.