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WELCOME

[Call to Order]

EVERYONE THIS MORNING TO REGULAR COMMISSIONERS COURT HERE ON FEBRUARY THE 28TH.

AND FIRST OFF, WE'RE GONNA HAVE RAMIFICATION BY COMMISSIONER MOORE, THEN COMMISSIONERS PHILLIPS IS GONNA LEAD US INTO PLEDGES, IF YOU WILL.

STAND, PLEASE, MR. SPRING.

DEAR FATHER, LORD, WE JUST THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY THAT WE CAN COME TOGETHER AND SERVE YOU AND SERVE OUR COMMUNITY.

LORD, WE PRAY THIS MORNING THAT YOU'LL BE WITH US AS WE MAKE DECISIONS.

THAT'LL BE WHAT YOU WOULD BLESS US ON.

LORD, WE ASK YOU TO BLESS OUR COUNTRY, ASK YOU TO BE WITH OUR SOLDIERS AND MILITARY THAT'S OVERSEAS AND THE ONES HOME, AND OUR POLICE OFFICERS AND FIRE AND, UH, ALL OF OUR EMERGENCY RESPONDERS, OR WE HAS ASKED THAT YOU'LL JUST GUIDE US THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE DAY AND NOT JUST FOR THIS HOUR THAT YOU'LL ALWAYS BE WITH US AND WE PRAY.

SAINT YOUR SON'S HOLY NAME, AMEN.

AMEN.

OUR PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IS SEEN ONE NATION, GOD, INDIVISIBLE, LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FRAUD UNDER THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE, PLEASE SEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD.

ONE INDIVISIBLE.

THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK THIS MORNING WHO SIGNED UP? NO SPEAKERS.

OKAY.

[1. ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.]

AND THEN WE MOVE ON TO ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.

I THINK COMMISSIONER HUNT HAS SOMETHING.

UH, YES.

UH, THERE'S TWO THINGS I'D LIKE TO TO POINT OUT ON, UH, MARCH 4TH.

THIS WEEKEND IS SATURDAY FROM EIGHT TO FOUR.

WE HAVE THE COUNTYWIDE CLEANUP, THE FREE CLEANUP.

IT'S IF PRECINCT THREE THIS MONTH.

SO, UH, EVERYBODY LET EVERYBODY KNOW ABOUT THAT.

AND THEN, UH, WE HAVE THE KAUFMAN COUNTY JUNIOR LIVESTOCK SHOW THAT'S GOING ON OUT HERE AT THE FAIRGROUNDS, UH, THIS WEEK.

UM, IT'D BE NICE FOR EVERYBODY TO GET OUT THERE AND, AND, UH, TAKE YOUR KIDS, SEE THE ANIMALS, AND SEE WHAT OUR KIDS IN THE COUNTY ARE DOING OUT THERE.

UH, IT'LL BE A GOOD EXPERIENCE FOR YOUR FAMILY.

SO, UH, BUT IT RUNS THROUGH FRIDAY AND I THINK THEY'RE HAVING A BARBECUE DINNER IN THE AUCTION ON FRIDAY.

SO IF ANYBODY'S COMPELLED ABOUT BUYING 'EM SOME BEEF TO, TO EAT FROM 'EM FOR A YEAR, THEN BE OUT THERE.

AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER THING IS I WAS ASKED BY COUNCIL VANESSA TO DO THE MISS AMERICA WAVE .

SO, BUT THAT'S JUDGE RIGHT BACK AT YOU.

OKAY, JUDGE.

I HAVE, YES, TOMMY.

ALL RIGHT.

I'D LIKE TO, ONE OF OUR CITIZENS CALLED ME LAST WEEK, UH, OFF OF OAK CIRCLE AND WANTED TO PRAISE BRIAN IN ANIMAL CONTROL FOR A GREAT JOB.

WELL DONE.

THEY HAD AN AGGRESSIVE DOG THAT HE CAME OUT AND DEALT WITH IT, UH, AND DID A EXCELLENT JOB, SHE SAYS.

SO THANK YOU, BRIAN, FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK, AND I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH EVERYBODY, SO, OKAY.

ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, LET'S MOVE ON

[2. CONSENT AGENDA]

TO, INTO THE CONSENT AGENDA, IF Y'ALL HAD TIME TO LOOK AT ALL OF THOSE ITEMS. ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY DISCUSSION AT THIS TIME? NOPE.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THEM.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS MADE A MOTION TO, UH, ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA.

NEED A SECOND? NO.

SECOND.

SECOND FOR COMMISSIONER BARBER.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

ITEM

[3. Constable Johnson; Present/ Accept the Kaufman County Pct. 2 Constable's office 2022 Racial Profiling Report.]

NUMBER THREE, CONSTABLE JOHNSON.

WHERE YOU GO? WHERE DO YOU GO? I'M LOOKING.

THAT'S A MAN JOHNSON NOT HOLDING.

GOOD MORNING.

OKAY.

YOU'RE, WE ARE HERE TO, FOR YOU TO PRESENT EXCEPT THE, UH, COPMAN COUNTY.

PRESTITUTE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE 2022 RACIAL PROFILING REPORT.

YES, SIR.

YES, SIR.

THAT'S CORRECT, JUDGE.

UH, THE NUMBERS THAT WE HAD FROM THE, UH, WHEN WE DID THE, THE NUMBERS, THE LAST COMMISSIONER'S COURT OVER THE 20,000 ARE ALMOST 21,000 CALLS.

AND THE INTERACTIONS WITH INDIVIDUALS THAT WE DID, UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S CLEARLY IDENTIFIED, UM, OUT OF THE TOTAL STOPS OF 2,800 STOPS, 312 WERE CITY STREETS 240, WERE HIGHWAYS, 2200 WERE COUNTY ROADS, STATE HIGHWAYS, AND SO FORTH.

BUT IT GOES INTO GREAT DETAIL, UM, TO FALL UNDER THE STATE GUIDELINES FOR THE RACIAL PROFILING SIDE OF IT.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO.

UHM IT'S A VERY THOROUGH REPORT.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU.

SO I NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT HIS REPORT.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER PHELPS MAKES A MOTION.

NEED A SECOND? NO.

SECOND.

SECOND.

COMMISSIONER HUNT.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

[4. Constable Johnson; Discuss/consider approving the donation and donation agreement of one K-9 patrol dog Electra Pet Link #981020045099389 from Timothy Jordan to the Kaufman County Pct. #2 Constable's Office.]

CONSTABLE JOHNSON, AGAIN, DISCUSSED, CONSIDERED APPROVING THE DONATION AND DONATION AGREEMENT OF ONE CANINE PATROL DOG, ELECTRA PET LINK.

A REAL LONG NUMBER FROM TIMOTHY JORDAN TO THE COLTON COUNTY

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PRECINCT TWO CONSTABLE'S OFFICE.

OKAY.

UH, YES, SIR.

JUDGE.

SO, UH, DEPUTY JORDAN HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE FOR GOING ON TWO AND A HALF YEARS NOW.

UM, HE IS IN HIGHLY INVOLVED WITH CANINES HIMSELF, AND HE TOOK IT UPON HIMSELF TO PURCHASE ELECTRA FROM THE EXACT LOCATION THAT WE JUST PURCHASED.

ONE OF OUR OTHER CANINES TO REPLACE, UH, CANINE TINA, UH, WHO HAD MEDICALLY RETIRED, EXCUSE ME, ALONG WITH A COUPLE OF OTHER DOGS AS THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE PURCHASED AS WELL.

UM, ELECTRA TOTAL VALUE IS ROUGHLY ABOUT $25,000.

UM, FOR HIM TO DONATE HER, WE HAD TO GO THROUGH SOME HOOPS.

ONE, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT SHE'S GONNA BE ACCEPTABLE.

UM, SHE HAS TO MEET SPECIFIC CRITERIA AND, UH, CANINES ARE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE TREMENDOUS WHEN IT COMES TO BEING ABLE TO IDENTIFY A DOG, WHETHER THEY'RE GONNA MAKE IT OR NOT.

UM, AND ELECTRIC GOT ACCEPTED INTO CANINE SCHOOL DOWN IN MISSISSIPPI WHERE SHE'S AT RIGHT NOW, UM, TO FINISH UP HER DUAL PURPOSE, UM, TO BE A PART OF THIS DEPARTMENT.

SO THE TOTAL COST IS TREMENDOUS.

WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT, BUT THE CONTINUING COST IS WHAT WE HAVE TO PAY FOR, UM, WITH THE ELECTRA, WHICH I, I'M GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO, TO DO THAT.

I'M JUST, UNFORTUNATELY WE KIND OF JUMPED A GUN ON SOMETHING, UM, PRIOR TO, AND WITH THAT, I WANT TO COMPLETELY APOLOGIZE TO EVERYBODY INTO THE COURT FOR THE MISUNDERSTANDING AND THE CONFUSION THAT TOOK PLACE IN REGARDS TO CANINE TINA OR CANINE ELECTRA.

EXPLAIN DUAL PURPOSE.

DUAL PURPOSE.

UH, THE CANINE, SHE'LL BE A NARCOTIC DOG.

SHE'LL BE A TRACKING DOG.

UM, AND THEN SHE'LL ALSO BE A, IF IT COMES TO THE POINT WHERE THE SUSPECT IS ATTACKING THE OFFICER, UM, SHE COULD BE A BITE DOG AS WELL.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE, THE DUAL PURPOSE SIDE OF IT.

OKAY.

UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT GET INTO PURSUITS AND THEN BAIL OUT OF THE VEHICLE AND THEN CHECK OFF RUNNING AND CANINES COME IN, JUST PHENOMENAL WHEN THEY TRACK DOGS.

AND THIS DOG WILL BE USED IN PATROL AND PRECINCT TOO.

AND WHERE ELSE MIGHT SHE'LL BE UTILIZED? ALL ACROSS THE COUNTY.

OKAY.

YES, SIR.

SO THE, THE BENEFIT OF HAVING CANINES MULTIPLE CANINES IS IF, IF SHERIFF'S CANINES ARE OUT AND THEIR TRAINING AND OURS ARE ACTIVE, SHE CAN GO ANYWHERE JUST LIKE TINA DID.

OKAY.

SO SHE CAN GO ANYWHERE Y'ALL, ARE THEY USED AT ANY OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS? NO, NOT YET.

OKAY, OKAY.

NO, SIR.

WE, THAT'S A, THAT'S A ANOTHER.

YEAH, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS A COMPANY.

THEY HAVE A PRIVATE SECURITY COMPANY THAT COMES OUT, SEARCH THE CARS, YOU KNOW.

OKAY.

THEY DON'T THINK 'EM IN THE SCHOOL, I DON'T BELIEVE, BUT WE'VE OFFERED.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS? NO, THEN WE'RE TO THE POINT.

WE NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT THIS.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

MR. PHELPS MAKES A MOTION.

DO I NEED A SECOND? NO, I'LL SECOND.

MR. MOORE MAKES A SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

[5. Constable Johnson; Discuss and Approve the reimbursement of $2,500.00 and $2,000 from 097-4902-697 to Deputy Aaron Ross #5125 for the concrete kennel floor and kennel roof for K-9 Groot.]

NUMBER FIVE, CONSTABLE JOHNSON, ONCE AGAIN, DISCUSS AND APPROVE THE REIMBURSEMENT OF $2,500 AND 2000 FROM ACCOUNT.

OH 97 DASH 4 0 2 DASH 6 97 TO DEPUTY AARON ROSS, BADGE NUMBER 51 25 FOR THE CONCRETE KENNEL FLOOR IN KENNEL ROOF FOR K NINE.

IS THAT GROUP ? YES, SIR.

UH, A AGAIN, THANK YOU, JUDGE.

SO TECHNICALLY, UH, FIVE AND SIX IS WHAT I WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO THE COURTS AND ALL THE MEMBERS ABOUT, UM, THIS WAS A PREEMPTIVE STRIKE ON THEIR PART.

THE, UH, 6 97 ACCOUNT IS ACTUALLY OUR SEIZURE FUNDS, UM, FUNDS THAT WE HAVE TAKEN OVER FROM ARRESTS AND SO FORTH LIKE THAT.

BUT WHEN WE WERE TALKING TO THE OFFICERS, BOTH INDIVIDUALS, GRU IS ACTUALLY REPLACE REPLACING KINE TINA, WHEN WE WERE TALKING TO THEM AND WE KNEW THAT WE HAD TO DO SOME THINGS, WE ADVISE, HEY, WE HAVE THE MONEY, WE KNOW THIS.

WHICH FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEY WENT OKAY, AND THEY GOT IT DONE WITHOUT, HOLD ON.

WE HAVE STEPS THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE.

UM, SO THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO APOLOGIZE ABOUT.

UH, BUT YES, IT IS COMING OUT OF THE SEIZURE FUND.

UM, GRUT HAS HIS OWN CONCRETE KENNEL, UM, WITH THIS COVER THAT'S REQUIRED BY STATE STATUTE.

UM, AND SO THAT WAS THROUGH REIMBURSEMENT TO PAY BACK THE COST OF HAVING THAT DONE.

OKAY.

ANY QUESTIONS? I DO, YES, MA'AM.

UM, THIS DOESN'T CAUSE A LIABILITY TO THE COUNTY FOR BEING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.

THE, THE DOG, OR NOT THE DOG, THE BUILDING, THE KENNEL,

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THE BUILDING, THE KENNEL, MR. ATTORNEY.

I THINK IT'S COMMON FOR ALL OF THESE DOGS.

THEY HAVE TO LIVE SOMEWHERE AND THEY DON'T LIVE AT THE PRECINCT AND THEY'RE WITH THEIR HANDLER USUALLY 24 HOURS A DAY, LIKE WHEN THEY'RE NOT WORKING.

SO, UM, I DON'T THINK IT'S ANY, I DON'T THINK THERE'S EVER BEEN A QUESTION OR REALLY AN ISSUE OF LIABILITY.

I THINK THEY'RE KEPT IN A DOG PEN.

THEY'RE KEPT UNDER THE CONTROL, UM, OF THE HANDLER OR, YOU KNOW, HIS FAMILY OR HER FAMILY.

SO I, I'VE NEVER, I MEAN, THE ISSUE, YOU'RE RINGING UP AUDITOR ABOUT LIABILITY, THAT'S NEVER REALLY BEEN A CONCERN BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE LIKE KENNELS OR A CAGE OR PE YOU KNOW, AT THE, UM, OFFICE OR SUB COURTHOUSE WHERE, UM, DEPUTY, THE DEPUTY AND CONSTABLE JOHNSON ARE.

SO THESE DOGS HAVE TO BE HOUSED SOMEWHERE.

AND I THINK THE SAME AS WITH, UM, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

I THINK YOU ALL, UM, IT'S JUST COMMON PRACTICE WITH THESE ANIMALS.

THEY ALWAYS BASICALLY GO WITH THEIR HANDLER, YOU KNOW, OUR SERVICE DOG AT THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

UM, HE GOES HOME WITH, YOU KNOW, OUR CHIEF INVESTIGATOR EVERY NIGHT.

AND, UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE WELL TRAINED WHERE THERE SHOULDN'T BE A LI THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY MORE LIABILITY THAN NORMAL.

OKAY.

THANK YOU KAREN.

I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.

YES, MA'AM.

Y'ALL JUST THE TRUTH APPROVED PAYMENTS AND I'M NOT WRITING CHECKS UNTIL I HAVE RECEIPTS THAT AMOUNT TO THAT MUCH.

SORRY, I CAN'T DO IT.

IT'S ILLEGAL.

DO YOU HAVE RECEIPTS? WE DO, JUDGE.

AND YOU NEED TO GET THEM TO THE, TO THE AUDITOR.

THEY'VE BEEN SENT.

WE'LL SEND THEM AGAIN, PLEASE.

YES, SIR.

IT WOULDN'T BE BAD IF YOU JUST HAND CARRIED THE MOBILE THAT WAY.

WE NOT.

I'LL DO THAT TODAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SHERIFF.

NEXT QUESTION.

YES, I'M SORRY.

DOES THE DONATION AGREEMENT INCLUDE AUTHORIZING, UH, OFFICER JORDAN TO BE CONSIDERED THE K NINE DEPUTY? YES, IT DOES.

THAT DONATION CONTRACT HAS ALREADY BEEN SEEN, APPROVED AND ACCEPTED THROUGH THE DA'S OFFICE.

OKAY.

UM, HIS POSITION'S NOT CURRENTLY BUDGETED IN THE SPLIT CONTRACTS.

AND, UM, I HAD BEEN PREVIOUSLY TOLD THAT HE WOULDN'T GET AN ADDITIONAL RAISE OR PAY FOR THIS.

SO I NEED TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE I'M THE ONE THAT HAS TO BILL FOR THE CONTRACTS.

YES, MA'AM.

WE HAD ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THIS AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS THE BEGINNING PART OF THE BUDGET CYCLE.

SO TO NOT JEOPARDIZE ANYTHING WE CONSIDERED JUST TO GO AHEAD AND HAVE HIM REGULAR PAID UNTIL THE NEW OCTOBER BUDGET.

BUT IF I COULD GO AHEAD AND GET ACKNOWLEDGEMENT FROM THE COURT, THE MONEY DIFFERENCE IN THIS WAS ONLY GONNA BE LIKE $2,500.

SO I COULD ACTUALLY PAY THAT OUTTA MY CONTRACT.

IS THAT 2,500? I'M NOT TIE ANYTHING UP.

WE WERE JUST GONNA GO AHEAD AND ALLOW HIM THIS PAYMENT.

THEN I HAVE ANOTHER ISSUE BECAUSE THE AGENDA ITEMS ARE SAYING IT'S COMING FROM CONSTABLE PRECINCT TWO'S BUDGET IN THE GENERAL FUND, NOT THE SPLIT CONTRACTS.

SO I NEED THAT CLARIFIED.

WELL, IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN THE PAPERWORK WAS SUBMITTED.

IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN UNDER THE CONTRACT SIDE BECAUSE THE ONLY PERSON THAT IS UNDER THE CONSTABLE SIDE OF IT IS AARON ROSS.

AARON ROSS IS PAID UNDER THE CONSTABLE SIDE.

HE'S THE DEPUTY UNDER MY CONSTABLE SIDE, GRUT, WHICH IS REPLACING TINA.

TINA WAS PLACED OUT OF THE CONTRACT.

SORUT WILL CONTINUE TO BE PLACED OUTTA CONTRACT ITSELF.

SO THIS ONE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW IS DEPUTY ROSS.

DEPUTY ROSS IS UNDER THE CONSTABLE BUDGET.

OKAY.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT ELECTRA YET.

WE HAVEN'T EVEN GOT TO THAT POINT.

WELL, I'M FIXING TO ASK YOU, BUT THAT'S GOING TO NUMBER SIX, NOT FIVE.

WE'RE ON FIVE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

UM, IS THE NEW DOG ELECTRA GOING TO BE USED A HUNDRED PERCENT FOR THE CONTRACTS OR FOR THE COUNTY TOO? BECAUSE I NEED TO DIVIDE THOSE PROPORTIONS OUT.

SHE'S GOING TO BE JUST LIKE TINA WAS JUST LIKE, GRU'S GOING TO BE, THE MONEY WILL BE SEPARATED THROUGH ALL OF THE CONTRACTS BECAUSE SHE'S GONNA BE UTILIZED ANYWHERE.

AND WE'LL GIVE YOU THOSE LINE ITEM NUMBERS JUST LIKE WE DID WITH TINA FOR A LONG TIME.

OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT I NEEDED TO KNOW.

THANK YOU.

YES, MA'AM.

SO YOU WILL GET THOSE NUMBERS BACK TO ALTAR TODAY ON WHICH LINE ITEM THEY NEED TO COME OUT OF.

YES, SIR.

WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING.

YEAH, YOU GOOD CHAIR.

DO YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING? JUST THE, THE DOGS AND THE KENNELS, YOU CAN LEGALLY DO THAT.

WE'VE BEEN DOING IT SINCE 2002 AND EVEN PULL THE CONCRETE, CAUSE IT'S FOR THE SAFETY AND THE SECURITY OF THAT K NINE, WHICH IS ALSO A DUAL PURPOSE DOG.

SO YOU, YOU CAN DO IT.

OKAY.

.

AND IT IS A SET STANDARD THROUGHOUT THE NATION.

OKAY.

SO WHILE WE'RE ON NUMBER FIVE, NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT THIS, I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER PHELPS MADE A MOTION.

MAY A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

MR. BAR MADE A SECOND.

ALL IN, UH,

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ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I'M SORRY, JUDGE WITNESS.

TERRY, WERE YOU SECOND? YES.

YEP.

YES.

OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

[6. Constable Johnson; Discuss/Consider approving the reimbursement of $2,900.00 from 097-4902-697 to Deputy Timothy Jordan #5332 for the concrete kennel floor for K-9 Elektra.]

NUMBER SIX, CONSTABLE JOHNSON, DISCUSS, CONSIDERED APPROVED THE REIMBURSEMENT.

$2,900 FROM OH NINE SEVEN DASH 4 0 9 DASH 6 97 TO DEPUTY TIMOTHY JORDAN, NUMBER 53 32 FOR THE CONCRETE KENNEL FLOOR.

FOUR K NINE ELECTRA.

YES, SIR.

THAT IS, UH, THIS IS, UH, UH, I PUT THE WRONG ONE.

UH, YES.

SO THIS, AGAIN, THIS IS COMING OUT OF THE SEIZURE FUNDS.

UM, THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WE KNEW THAT WE HAD THE FUNDS FOR, BUT THE, UH, THE OFFICERS KNOWING THAT THEY WERE FIXING TO GO TO MISSISSIPPI DECIDED TO GO AHEAD AND GET IT DONE PRIOR TO.

UM, SO AGAIN, I'M SORRY FOR THE, THE CONFUSION OR THE MISUNDERSTANDING ON THAT.

UM, THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN.

UM, BUT THAT'S WHAT THIS IS FOR THE CONTRACT.

I'M GONNA HOLD YOU TO THEN.

YES, SIR.

AND WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED EVERYTHING ELSE.

AND, AND YOU'LL GET THE, ALL THE RECEIPTS AND EVERYTHING CORRECTLY DONE TO HER IN PERSON.

YES SIR.

RIGHT TODAY.

OKAY.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT.

I HAVE A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

NEED A SECOND? I'LL SECOND COMMISSION.

MOORE MAY A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

NUMBER

[7. Constable Johnson; Discuss/Consider approving the deputation of Leonardo Morales to fill a vacant approved full-time position with Kaufman County Pct. #2 Constable's Office contract patrol for the MUD 2 (570) patrol contract]

SEVEN, CONSTABLE JOHNSON, AGAIN, DISCUSS, CONSIDERED PROVING THE ATION OF LEONARDO MORALES TO FILL A VACANCY APPROVED FULL-TIME POSITION WITH THE COPPA COUNTY PRECINCT.

TWO CONSTABLE'S OFFICE PATROL FOR THE MUD.

NUMBER 2 5 70 PATROL CONTRACT.

YES, SIR.

YES SIR.

JUDGE, UH, THANK YOU.

MR. LEONARDO COMES FROM THE MESQUITE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

UM, HE'S BEEN WITH, UH, MESQUITE PD FOR GOING ON ABOUT TWO YEARS.

UM, HE WAS LOOKING FOR A CHANGE.

UM, AND AFTER DOING HIS BACKGROUND, WE WERE VERY IMPRESSED WITH WHAT HE CAN OFFER TO NOT ONLY PRECINCT TWO, BUT THE COUNTY AS WELL.

SO WE WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE THE RECOGNITION OF, UH, MR. LEONARDO COMING FOR AN OPEN AND ALREADY APPROVED POSITION WITH PRECINCT TWO.

SO HE COMES FULLY CERTIFIED AND EVERYTHING FROM THE STATE? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE COMMISSIONER SKILLS.

MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE.

NEED A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

SECOND FOR COMMISSIONER MORRO IN ANY OF THE FURTHER DISCUSSION.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIED.

ALL RIGHT.

CONSTABLE JOHNSON, YOUR LAST TURN.

DISCUSSED,

[8. Constable Johnson; Discuss/Consider approving the deputation of Muhammad Siddiqi as a Reserve Deputy Constable with the Kaufman County Pct. #2 Constable's Office.]

CONSIDER APPROVING THE DEPORTATION OF MOHAMED.

OKAY.

AS A RESERVED DEPUTY CONSTABLE OF PRECINCT TWO CONSTABLE'S OFFICE.

YES, SIR.

MR. SADIKI ACTUALLY COMES FROM THE DALLAS COUNTY CONSTABLE'S OFFICE, WHERE HE HAS BEEN, UH, WORKING WITH HIM FOR ABOUT EIGHT YEARS, UH, HANDLING A LOT OF THE CIVIL PROCESS AND STUFF THAT GOES ON.

UH, MR. SADIKI WITH, UM, HIS NATIONALITY WOULD BE TREMENDOUS IN PRECINCT TWO FOR THE TYPE OF GROWTH AND POPULATION WE HAVE GOING ON.

AND HE WOULD BE AN ASSET TO THE DEPARTMENT AS A RESERVE.

SOUNDS GOOD TO ME.

OKAY.

NEED A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION.

MR. PHILLIPS MAKES THE MOTION.

NEED A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

MR. HUNT MAKES A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

CONSTABLE JOHNSON.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

JOHN.

POLLSTERS RUNNING A LITTLE BIT LATE, SO

[11. Constable Woodall; Present/Accept the Kaufman County Pct. 3 Constables office 2022 Racial Profiling Report.]

WE'RE GONNA SKIP DOWN TO CONSTABLE WOODALL.

GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING.

THANK YOU.

GOOD MORNING.

HOW ARE Y'ALL THIS MORNING? MORNING CONSTABLE WOODALL IS GOING TO, WE NEED TO PRESENT AND ACCEPT THE KAMAN COUNTY PRECINCT THREE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE 2022 RACIAL PROFILING.

I'VE ATTACHED THE RACIAL PROFILING REPORT ALSO, UH, UH, ANALYSIS FROM T COLE THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT.

ALSO, AT THE VERY BACK, I WENT AHEAD AND PRINTED OUR, UH, CURRENT CENSUS.

I'VE COMPARED THAT TO THIS, THE RACIAL PROFILING REPORT.

UH, DIDN'T, UH, NOTICE ANYTHING ALARMING OR ANYTHING UNUSUAL OR OUT OF THE ORDINARY WITH THAT REPORT? NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER MOORE MAKES THE MOTION.

NEED A SECOND? SECOND.

MR. BARR MADE A SECOND.

ANY A DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU CONSTABLE.

AND WE'VE ALREADY DONE NUMBER 12.

WE

[13. Constable Brooks; Present/Accept the Kaufman County Pct. 3 Constables office 2022 Racial Profiling Report.]

WILL NOW GO TO NUMBER 13.

CONSTABLE BROOKS IS GOING TO PRESENT FOR OUR ACCEPTANCE OF KAMAN COUNTY PRECINCT FORCE 2022 PROFILING REPORTS.

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WE HAVE HAD 233 STOPS WITH NO COMPLAINTS.

THAT'S GREAT.

MM-HMM.

RIGHT? GO STAY TRYING.

HARD ENOUGH.

ARE YOU? I KNOW RIGHT? WE NEED MORE, RIGHT? THEY DON'T KNOW HER.

OKAY.

HASN'T MADE TO MAKE COMPLAINT, RIGHT? YEAH.

OKAY.

ANY, ANY QUESTIONS FOR CONSTABLE BROOKS? IF NOT, I NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

COMMISSIONER MOORE MAKES THE MOTION TO ACCEPT.

NEED A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

MR. HUNT MAKES A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT NEED A VOTE, EVERYONE SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MR. BROOKS.

MM-HMM.

.

THANK YOU.

FIRE

[14. Paul Ayres; Present / Accept Kaufman County Fire Marshal's Office Racial Profiling Report.]

MARSHAL PAUL AYERS EXCEPT CO COUNTY FIRE MARSHAL'S RACIAL PROFILING REPORT.

ALL RIGHT.

OURS IS EASY.

WE ONLY MADE A COUPLE OF TRAFFIC STOPS LAST YEAR.

SO, UH, THESE ARE ALL RELATED TO HAZARDS WE'RE OBSERVING WHILE WE'RE OUT AND ABOUT DOING OUR NORMAL, UH, DUTIES.

UM, NO COMPLAINTS.

AND, UM, UH, WE ARE PRETTY EVENLY DISTRIBUTED ACROSS THOSE FEW, UH, TRAFFIC STOPS FOR RACIAL, UH, REPRESENTATIONS.

Y'ALL AHEAD TIME I LOOK AT THE REPORT, ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE? IF NOT, I NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT HIS REPORT.

I MAY HAVE A MOTION.

AYE.

MR. PLEASE.

ANYTHING.

MR. HUNT? MAKE A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THANK YOU, PAUL.

THANKS.

ALL RIGHT.

WHERE'S OUR TREASURER? MR. CHUCK

[15. Chuck Mohnkern; Present/Accept the Treasurer's monthly report for January 2023.]

MONKO PRESENTING ACCEPT TO TREASURER OF MONTH REPORT FOR JANUARY 23.

GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.

MORNING.

MORNING.

WE, UH, STARTED OFF JANUARY WITH, UH, 31,000,580 3008 35 IN THE, UH, FUND 10 BALANCE RECEIPTS DURING THE MONTH.

31.4 MILLION DISBURSEMENTS OF 21, UH, MILLION.

AND UH, WE ENDED, UH, CASH BALANCE IN FUND 10 OF 41 MILLION 9 74 2 28.

OUR INTEREST EARNED ON AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK ACCOUNTS 4,700 2270.

EARNINGS ON, UH, OUR INVESTMENTS 379,000 875 89.

OUR TOTAL INVESTED IN TAX POOL, 27 MILLION 3 56 6 49.

TOTAL INVESTED IN TEXAS CLASS 76,006,000 2 27.

OUR, UH, AVERAGE YIELD ON TAX POOL 4.52% AVERAGE YIELD IN TEXAS CLASS 4.5472%.

OUR, UH, TOTAL COUNTY FUNDS IN AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK AT THE END OF, UH, JANUARY 108,170,961.

THE VALUE OF, UH, PLEDGED SECURITIES 157 MILLION 7 52 6 98.

SO WE, UH, WERE COLLATERALIZED BY AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK AT 146%.

THE, UM, PERCENTAGE, UM, OF FUNDS INVESTED 48.86% PERCENT IN THE BANK AS OF JANUARY 31ST, 51.14.

WE WROTE 347 RECEIPTS DURING THE MONTH FOR A TOTAL OF $26,306,423.

ANY QUESTIONS? NO.

HOPEFULLY THE YIELD WILL CONTINUE TO RISE A LITTLE BIT.

HOPEFULLY IT WILL FOR A LITTLE BIT LONGER ANYWAY.

YES, WE NEED IT.

YEAH.

YES.

MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

I NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT MR. MORAN'S REPORT.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

COMMISSIONER PHELPS MAKES MOTION.

NEED A SECOND? I SECOND.

MR. HUNT.

MAKE A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

WE WILL TERRY PASS THAT AND BEGIN ONE TO SIGN IT PLEASE.

AND

[16. Chuck Mohnkern; Discuss/Consider approving the 2023 Kaufman County Investment Policy.]

OUR TREASURER AGAIN DISCUSSED APPROVING A 2023 COULTON COUNTY INVESTMENT POLICY.

YES.

OKAY.

WE ARE REQUIRED BY THE PUBLIC FUNDS INVESTMENT ACT, CHAPTER 2256 TO BRING THIS, UH, TO YOU EVERY YEAR FOR, UH, UH, APPROVAL.

THERE'S, UH, NO REAL CHANGES IN THE POLICY ITSELF.

ONLY THE SECTION SHOWING THE TRANSCRIPTS OF MYSELF AND THE ASSISTANT TREASURER'S TRAINING, UH, FOR INVESTMENTS AND ALSO THE COUNTY JUDGE'S NAME CHANGED.

ALL RIGHT.

NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

COMMISSIONER MOORE MAKES THE MOTION.

DO SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

BARBARA MC SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU, CHUCK.

APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

[9. John Polster; Discuss/Consider approval of Funding for Road Construction Contract for Precinct 1 County Road & Bridge Projects in the Amount of $219,271.89.]

LET'S GO TO MR. POLLSTER.

GO BACK UP TO NUMBER NINE, IF YOU WILL, PLEASE.

I GOT REROUTED MORNING JOHN SIX TIMES MORNING.

AND NUMBER NINE IS TO DISCUSS, APPROVE THE FUNDING OF ROAD CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT FOR PRECINCT ONE COUNTY ROAD AND BRIDGE CROSS SECTION PROJECTS IN AMOUNT OF $219,271

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AND 89 CENTS.

UH, JOHN POLLSTER INNOVATIVE TRANSPORTATION SOLUTIONS.

UH, YES SIR.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UH, THIS IS A, UM, ACTION ITEM TO MOVE SOME FUNDS, UH, FROM PRECINCT ONE'S, UH, DISCRETIONARY COUNT TO THIS, UH, CAN ROAD 1 53 PROJECT.

THIS IS THE LAST OF THREE OF THE CONTRACTS WE'RE, UM, PUTTING THROUGH THE, TO THE COURT.

DO YOU HAVE ANY, UH, WELL, IT JUST, WE, IT'S KIND OF A CLERICAL ERROR.

WE, IT WAS A INVOICE, OR NOT INVOICE, BUT A BID FOR STABILIZATION THAT WAS LEFT OUT OF THE LAST FINANCING.

SO WE JUST CAUGHT THAT AND WE'D GET IT RUN THROUGH.

SO, AND THIS WILL COMPLETE THE PROJECT THEN? UH, WELL WE WON'T, WE HAVE, RIGHT NOW THEY'RE WORKING ON THE BRIDGE AND YEAH, THEY'LL COMPLETE THE FUNDING SIDE OF THE, THE, THE FUNDING SIDE OF ME.

YES.

OKAY.

BUT JUST TO UPDATE THE BRIDGE, THEY'RE POURING THE TOP OF THE BRIDGE TODAY, THE COVERS OF TN P ENGINEERS THAT WE NEEDED AND THE FLOODPLAIN.

AND THEN AFTER WE GET THE BRIDGE DONE, THEN WE'LL START HAULING IN ALL THE DIRT THAT WE TOOK OFF, UH, DONATED FROM ME.

SO WE CAN BUILD THE ROAD UP THE ROAD BASE UP OUTTA THE FLOODPLAIN AND THEN WE START SPENDING THE MONEY.

JOHN, SO GRACIOUS AS HE GAVE US.

OH, THANK YOU JOHN.

I'M ASPHALT AND STUFF, SO .

OKAY.

I NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT.

I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

MR MAKES THE MOTION.

NEED A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

THANK COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS ALL FAVOR AROUND, BUT IT DOESN'T SHOW.

I KNOW.

THAT'S, I WISH HE WOULDN'T .

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

ALL RIGHT.

MOTION CARRIES.

THERE'S A PRANKSTER AMONG US.

.

ALL RIGHT, MR.

[10. John Polster; Discuss/Consider approval of Precinct 4 2019 Road Bond funding transfers in the amount of $3,360,000.00.]

POLLSTER, ONCE AGAIN ON NUMBER 10, DISCUSSING PROOF PRECINCT 4 20 19 ROAD BOND FUNDING TRANSFERS IN THE AMOUNT OF $3,360,000.

YES, SIR.

YEAH.

THIS IS, UH, UH, MEETING WITH COMMISSIONER MOORE.

WE'VE, UH, LOOKED AT SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WERE IN THE PIPELINE AND, UH, THESE ARE REFLECTING SOME CHANGES IN PRIORITIES THAT, UH, THE COMMISSIONER IS LOOKING AT DOING.

AND THESE WILL EFFECTUATE THAT, UH, ABILITY FOR THE COMMISSIONER TO MAKE THOSE, UH, EFFORTS POSSIBLE.

IS THAT FAIR? YES, MA'AM.

YES, SIR.

SO IT'S, WE'RE MOVING, IT'S STILL GOING.

WE'RE MOVING IT OVER TO USING THE 2019 ROAD PROJECT.

SOME OF THE PROJECTS ON THE ROAD AND BRIDGE FOUR SHEET THAT WAS IN THE BOND PROPOSAL.

RIGHT? SO WE'RE GOING TO PROJECTS, YOU'RE GONNA PUT SOMEWHERE DOWN THE LINE TO, AND WE'RE GOING DOWN INTO THE, HIS, UH, HIS ROAD AND BRIDGE PRE, I'M GONNA CALL IT DISCRETIONARY, BUT IT'S HIS ROAD BRIDGE ACCOUNT.

OKAY.

YES, SIR.

BILL, WE'LL USE IT.

COUNTY ROADS.

BILL MOORE COUNTY ROADS.

YES.

THERE YOU GO.

THERE YOU GO.

OKAY.

SO I NEED A MOTION.

I, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

I HAVE A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER MOORE.

NEED A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

MR. MOORE, MAKE A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ALL AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU, JOHN.

APOLOGIZE FOR MY TARDINESS.

THAT'S OKAY.

I UNDERSTAND THE TRAFFIC.

, WE WON'T CHARGE YOU MUCH.

.

.

YEAH.

NUMBER 17

[17. Teressa Floyd; Present/Accept the Tax Assessor-Collector's monthly property tax collections report for January 2023.]

IS THERESA FLOYD.

PRESENT AND ACCEPT THE TAX ASSESSOR'S COLLECTOR'S MONTHLY PROPERTY TAX COLLECTIONS REPORT FOR JANUARY OF 23.

GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING.

MORNING.

ALL RIGHT.

SO FOR JANUARY ON THE PROPERTY TAX, OUR CURRENT COLLECTIONS WE COLLECTED WERE 18 MILLION 986, 400 $60 AND 79 CENTS, EXCUSE ME, ON THE DELINQUENT TAXES.

UH, IT WAS 161,000, 30 AND 18 CENTS FOR A TOTAL COLLECTED, UM, FOR 19 MILLION 1 47, 4 90, 97, OR PAID OUT, NOT COLLECTED.

WE COLLECTED MORE THAN THAT.

BUT, UM, ON THE RODEN BRIDGE THAT THE COUNTY RECEIVED WAS THE CURRENT WAS 3 MILLION 8 29 3 87 34.

DE DELINQUENT WAS 34,000 1 50 66 FOR A TOTAL PAID OUT OF, UH, COLLECTED AND PAID OF 3 MILLION 8 63 538 EVEN.

SO THE DEFERRALS UNPAID FOR THE CURRENT WAS 119,000 856 67.

AND THE UNPAID DEFERRAL FOR THE ROAN BRIDGE WAS 21,000 297 42.

AND, UH, WE HAD SOME, A ROLLBACK ON, UH, 80 ACRES IN PRECINCT TWO AND ONE ACRE IN PRECINCT FOUR.

ALL RIGHT.

, SOMETHING ELSE IS GETTING SOME ROLLBACK, RIGHT? REALLY? REALLY? I'M ABOUT TO RUN THAT OUT A BIT.

I KNOW, RIGHT? .

OKAY.

NO QUESTIONS.

I NEED A, ANY QUESTIONS? IF NOT, I NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT A REPORT.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER PHELPS MAKES A MOTION TO ACCEPT.

NEED A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

COMMISSIONER MOORE MAKES A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

MR. TERESA AGAIN, PRESENT

[18. Teressa Floyd; Present/Accept the Tax Assessor-Collector's monthly auto collections report for January 2023.]

AND ACCEPT THE TAX COLLECTOR'S

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MONTHLY AUTO COLLECTIONS REPORT FOR JANUARY OF 23.

OKAY, SO FOR JANUARY OF 2023, WE COLLECTED A TOTAL OF 2 MILLION 7 38, 3 38 99.

UM, OF THAT MONEY WE RECEIVED, THE COUNTY RECEIVED 539, 9 83 90 OF THOSE FUNDS.

UM, SO IN COMPARISON TO LAST YEAR, BUT IT WAS A LITTLE BIT, UH, FROM LAST YEAR, ABOUT 200,000.

NOT QUITE, BUT A LITTLE BIT.

A LITTLE BIT, A LITTLE BIT.

BUT, UM, SO, OKAY, GOOD.

OKAY.

ANY QUESTIONS? IF NOT, I NEED A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE THE MOTION COMMISSION HUNT MAKES THE MOTION.

NEED A SECOND? SECOND.

MR. BARR MAKES A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVORS SAY AYE.

AYE.

THANK YOU.

I NOTICED ON THE PRIOR REPORT THE COLLECTIONS WERE REALLY UP FROM THIS SAME TIME LAST YEAR.

THEY WERE, UH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TAX WARNING? YES.

YES.

AND THAT'S, I THINK DUE TO THE WEATHER.

SO OUR FEBRUARY COLLECTIONS SHOULD, YOU KNOW, REPRESENT THOSE TOTALS THIS YEAR.

UH, BECAUSE WE HAD, WE CAN, WE DIDN'T DO SO WE COLLECTED, THEY REALLY BOOSTED IT UP.

YEAH, WE COLLECTED JANUARY 31ST ON FEBRUARY 3RD, SO YES.

MADE A DIFFERENCE.

YES.

OKAY.

[19. Teressa Floyd; Discuss/Consider approving the assessment collection contracts between Kaufman County and the City of Crandall, Trinity Valley Community College, City of Combine, Kaufman ESD#2, Kaufman ESD#S and Wills Point ISD.]

NUMBER 19, THERESA FLOYD DISCUSSED AND CONSIDER APPROVING THE ASSESSMENT COLLECTION CONTRACTS BETWEEN KAUFMAN COUNTY, THE CITY OF CRANDLE, TRENTY VALLEY COMMUNITY COLLEGE, CITY OF COMBINE, KAUFMAN, SD NUMBER TWO, AND KAUFMAN SD NUMBER FIVE.

AND WILLS POINT IS D.

YEP.

THOSE ARE THE, THE CONTRACTS SO FAR THAT I'VE GOTTEN BACK FROM THE ENTITIES TO SIGN WITH THE NEW MR. REGULAR.

SO YEARLY CONTRACTS? YES.

YES SIR.

THE CONTRACTS THAT'LL HAVE AREN'T, YOU KNOW, ALL EVERYBODY'S NAMES ON IT THAT ARE BEING REPRESENTED.

NOW, HOW MANY MORE DO YOU LACK? I LACK PROBABLY ABOUT, LET'S SEE, THAT WAS SIX.

I HAVE QUITE A FEW IN TODAY.

UM, I STILL LACK PROBABLY ABOUT 20 OR OR MORE.

OKAY.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO I NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER PHELPS MAKES THE MOTION TO ACCEPT.

NEED A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

MR. MOORE MAKES A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? IF NOT, I NEED A MOTION.

I NEED A VOTE.

AYE AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, THANK YOU MR. JACKSON.

SEBASTIAN,

[20. Jack Sebastian; Discuss/Consider contracting with Ren'e Bates Auctioneers, Inc. to sell county surplus.]

NUMBER 20.

DISCUSS, CONSIDER CONTRACTING WITH RENEE BATES, OFFICER AUCTIONEERS TO SELL COUNTY SURPLUS.

YES, SIR.

GOOD, GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN.

UH, COUNTY JUDGE, ASK THAT I PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA AND I THINK IT'S, UH, UHD BE A GOOD IDEA TO BRING RENEE BASE BACK ON, UH, FOR SERVICES.

AND WE HAVE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF SURPLUS, SURPLUS PROPERTY SELL OUT OF THE COURTS BUILDING.

IT'D BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT, UH, AT THAT TIME.

AND THEN MAYBE IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU NEED TO, UH, ANY EQUIPMENT YOU NEED TO GET RID OF, WE CAN PUT THAT ON, UH, ON ONE AUCTION.

BUT I'D MAKE AT RECOMMENDATION TO BRING BERLE BATS BACK ON.

I HADN'T MENTIONED THIS TO JACK CUZ WE'RE NOT SURE PRIOR, I KNOW WE HAD A LOT OF OLD STUFF TO GET RID OF, BUT OTHER AUCTIONS PLACES HAVE RECOMMENDED THEM THAT THEY GET US MORE MONEY THAN MOST.

YEAH.

BUT I'M NOT SURE WHAT Y'ALL CURRENTLY DOING, HOW WELL IT'S SELLING, IF IT'S COMPETITIVE OR NOT.

IF IT'S OUT THERE LONG ENOUGH TO BRING US THE MONEY WE NEED.

SO I THOUGHT IT WAS GOOD JUST TO BRING IT UP FOR DISCUSSION.

WELL, YOU KNOW, I, I GUESS I CAN'T TELL YOU THE EXACT NAMES OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE USED CUZ WE JUST WENT THROUGH PURCHASING, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE SENT THE PICTURES AND ALL THAT'S ON DOCUMENTATION.

BUT IF WE COULDN'T SELL IT, THEN THEY USUALLY HAD A REDUNDANT AUCTION PLACE THAT THEY WOULD SEND IT TO, YOU KNOW, IF WE DIDN'T SELL OR WHATEVER, THEN WE COULD SEND IT SOMEWHERE ELSE AND WE COULD USUALLY MOVE IT.

I KNOW WE HAD SOME DUMP TRAILERS WE DID THAT WITH AND THEY WENT TO A LOCAL AUCTION SITE TO TRY TO MOVE 'EM.

CAUSE WE DIDN'T GET ANY BIDS RIGHT THROUGH THE COMPANY WE WERE USING.

SO THEY DID THE RESEARCH AND REACHED OUT AND, AND THEY FOUND A LOCAL THAT WE ACTUALLY MOVED IT AND DID PRETTY WELL ON THE, UH, DUMP TRAILERS.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, YOU WENT THROUGH TWO DIFFERENT YES, YES.

THEY WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS AND IT JUST DID NOT SELL, DIDN'T EVEN GET A BID ON IT.

AND THEN, AND THEN, UH, WE DID THAT A COUPLE TIMES WITH THE OTHER STUFF TOO AND THAT WE HAD BUY IT THE OTHER ONE SELL IT GENERALLY.

YEAH.

AND IT SEEMED LIKE WITH THIS, THE NEW ONE WE HAD, WE HAD MORE OF 'EM.

OTHER WORDS YOU COULD PUT IT ON ANYTIME CUZ THEY HAD ONLINE.

YEAH, I, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.

I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.

ISN'T THAT RIGHT? I MEAN, WE, WE CONSTANTLY COULD BID AWAY STUFF.

WE DIDN'T HAVE TO WAIT.

AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE TROUBLES I THINK WE WERE HAVING NATE BATES WAS THAT WE, WE HAD TO WAIT ONCE A YEAR, WHATEVER IT WAS, OR SIX MONTHS AND HAVE A PHYSICAL AUCTION.

I GUESS WE COULD DO AN AUCTIONING TIME.

WE GOT READY TO HAVE ONE.

WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT.

JUDGE.

I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT WAS DONE

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AFTER, YOU KNOW, THE LAST PAST TWO YEARS.

BUT, UH, RENEE BATES HAS AUCTIONS GOING ON EVERY WEEK.

UH, YOU DECIDE WHEN YOU WANT TO HAVE AN AUCTION AND, AND THEY PLACE IT.

I WILL SAY THAT, UH, IF ANYBODY THINKS THAT YOU COULD GET MORE MONEY SELLING SOMETHING IN TYLER, TEXAS ON TUESDAY AFTERNOON AT SIX O'CLOCK VERSUS SOMEONE THAT HAS ONE TO 4 MILLION HITS PER MONTH ON THEIR SITE, YEAH, I'D LIKE TO SELL YOU CHINESE WEATHER BALLOON.

.

MAN.

I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, WELL I DON'T KNOW IF THIS PLACE IS IN TYLER, BUT WE HAD AS SURE AS HECK DID IT.

IT'S JUST CONTRARY TO WHAT YOU SEE IT.

SO, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, SO ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS YOU GUYS HAVE FINAL DECISION, BUT ALL YOU GOTTA DO IS LET 'EM KNOW WHEN, WHEN YOU WANT TO HAVE AN AUCTION AND UH, WE CAN PUT IT ON THERE.

UH, THERE'S NO WAITING THERE.

I, YEAH.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS, UH, WHAT IT WAS.

I, I CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER ANYMORE CUZ WE SWITCH.

BUT I, I REMEMBER WITH, WE WERE, WE ALWAYS BROUGHT IN QUITE A BIT OF MONEY, RIGHT? RIGHT.

CITY QUI THAT WORKED.

IT, IT'S CAUSE WE HAD IT JUST ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR WAS ALL WE HAD CITY MESQUITE USE RENEE BASE.

I MEAN THEY USED SELL AND IT SEEMED LIKE THEY ALWAYS SOLD WAY ABOVE THE MARKET.

FROM MY EXPERIENCE.

THAT'S THE EXPERIENCE I HAVE WITH ANY AUCTION COMPANIES.

AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, BEFORE WE BROUGHT RENEE BATES BACK IN, YOU KNOW, IN 2005 OR SIX, UH, NO ONE AROUND HERE KNEW WHO RENEE BATES WAS.

NOW ALL THE SMALL ENTITIES AROUND ALL OVER THIS, THIS PART OF THE COUNTRY, USING ALL THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, ALL SMALL CITIES, UH, HE INVENTED THE PROCESS, YOU KNOW, WHEN HE, HE DID A LIVE OF AUCTIONS BACK IN 19 77, 78.

AND THEN THEY CAME UP WITH THE IDEA TO USE THEM, TRY AN ONLINE AUCTION.

AND SO IF YOU ASK ANY AUCTIONEER, THEY'LL TELL YOU THAT, THAT THESE FOLKS INVENTED THAT PROCESS.

I'M BE HONEST, IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME WHO WE USE.

IT DOESN'T MATTER.

I JUST WON'T READ THIS STUFF.

I DON'T, I DON'T READ THIS STUFF.

I DON'T EVEN CARE.

I JUST, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE ARE READY TO GET RID OF, WE JUST NEED ONE THING.

ONE MORE THING I'LL ADD IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW IS, IS ABOUT WHEN WE HAVE, UH, EQUIPMENT THAT'S PICKED UP AND DROVE TO TYLER, UH, WE HAVE NO AVENUE TO GET RID OF SURPLUS COUNTY PROPERTY.

AND SO THIS WOULD BE NICE WHILE YOU'RE HAVING A SALE FOR EQUIPMENT THAT YOU CAN GET RID OF ALL SURPLUS EQUIPMENT.

NOW, BACK IN THE DAY WE HAD A, YOU KNOW, AUCTION ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR JUST TO CLEAN UP THINGS.

BUT WHENEVER YOU GENTLEMEN HAVE SOMETHING TO SELL, WE CAN SELL IT.

THERE'S NO OLD WAITING PERIOD.

UH, ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS JUST LET HIM KNOW.

AND THEN BY STATUTE WE HAVE TO ADVERTISE.

AND, UH, THE ONLY HOLDUP IS JUST IN THE ADVERTISING PROCESS.

WHAT IN THE ADVERTISING.

THAT'S THE ONLY HOLDUP.

AND, AND WHAT I FOUND HERE, THERE FOR WHAT, TWO WEEKS PRIOR OR SOMETHING HECU ON THERE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

A PRETTY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.

AND WHAT I FOUND OUT RECENTLY IS WE HAVEN'T BEEN ADVERTISING OUR AUCTIONS.

SO, UH, SO WE HAVEN'T BEEN FOLLOWING THE STATUTE PRETTY MUCH.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE GUYS? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WE CAN USE 'EM.

IT'S JUST ANOTHER OPTION.

OKAY.

I'LL SECOND GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HUDGE.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU JACK.

[21. Jack Sebastian; Discuss/Consider advertising a bid for Chip Sealing of county roads.]

NUMBER 21, CONSIDERED ADVERTISING MADE FOR CHIP CEILING OF COUNTY ROADS.

UH, COMMISSIONER ONE, UH, ASKED THAT I PUT THIS ON AGENDA TO DO SOME CHIP CEILING.

SO I'D MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION.

AND IF YOU, JIM WON'T HAVE ANY, ANY SPECS OR, UH, THAT WE COULD USE, I'D LIKE TO WORK WITH YOU AND PUT OUT A BID FOR THAT.

AND, AND, UH, I, I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY USES THE SAME TACK OR WHATEVER IN EVERY OTHER PRECINCT, BUT WE PROBABLY NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF 'EM RECOVERED WHEN WE GO OUT FOR BIDS.

YOU KNOW, TYPE MATERIALS Y'ALL WILL WANT TO USE, WHETHER IT'S CHAT, YOU KNOW, UH, P GRAVEL OR, OR YOU KNOW, THE CW OR WHATEVER.

BUT, YOU KNOW, SO I DON'T KNOW.

AND THEN I DON'T KNOW IF THE BID WOULD HAVE, I GUESS WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE SHOT RATES.

WE MIGHT USE DIFFERENT SHOT RATES.

SO WE JUST NEED TO KIND OF GET INPUT FROM EVERYBODY TO SEE SO HE CAN GET A BROAD BID.

WELL LET, LET'S STIPULATE IT THAT ALL OF YOU WHO ARE GOING TO DO CHIP SEAL AND GET WITH JACK WITH RECOMMENDATIONS AND GUIDELINES, THEN LET HIM GO OUT FOR BID WITH IT.

OKAY, WELL, WE'LL, WE'LL EMAIL HIM THE, OUR SPECS THAT WE OPERATE, OUR TWO DRUTHERS AND THEN I DON'T CHIP, THEY CAN DO THE SAME THING.

SO, AND IF, AND IF Y'ALL KNOW ANY, ANY OTHER COUNTY THAT ARE DOING THIS THAT UH, HAS ANYTHING AFTER, WE COULD REACH OUT TO THOSE FOLKS AS WELL.

UH, THERE MAY BE CONTRACTS WE COULD TAKE IF Y'ALL KNOW ANYBODY.

OKAY.

THAT'S DOING THAT.

I BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THINK IN DALLAS COUNTY STILL CHIP SELLS TOO, YOU KNOW, SO I MEAN THEY'RE USING, YOU KNOW THAT I'M SURE THEY GOT A PRETTY GOOD CONTRACT.

YOU WOULD THINK SO.

YEAH.

ALRIGHT.

I CAN REACH OUT TO TEXAS BIT, SEE IF THEY KNOW ANYBODY THAT'S ON CONTRACT.

OKAY.

SO I NEED A MOTION FOR THIS.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE FORWARD.

REACH UP.

NEXT.

MOTION.

NEED SECOND, SECOND COMMISSION.

UH, BARBARA SECONDS.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

JACK, AGAIN, DISCUSS COUNTY CREDIT CARD POLICY USAGE.

OH, I'M SORRY.

[22. Jack Sebastian; Discuss/Consider a policy/standardization of future county furniture purchases.]

22.

I SKIP ONE FURTHER DOWN.

CONSIDER A POLICY STANDARDIZING THE FUTURE COUNTY FURNITURE PURCHASES.

YES, SIR.

GENERAL, I'M JUST BRINGING THIS UP.

UH, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, NOWADAYS MOST COUNTIES, UH, HAVE KIND

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OF A STANDARD FURNITURE THAT THEY USE.

THAT YOU GO OUT AND HERE AND YOU SECURE A BID OR, UH, SOMETHING THAT'S ON A CO-OP AND YOU GET KIND OF A STANDARDIZATION.

UH, WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON A COUPLE PROJECTS NOW FOR FURNITURE THAT, UH, PRIOR TO THIS, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, A LOT OF FOLKS ARE HAVING A STANDARD PRODUCT.

AND SINCE WE JUST GOT THROUGH BUILDING, UH, ONE BUILDING AND WE'RE WORKING ON FURNITURE FOR THE NEXT BUILDING, IT WOULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY.

SOME KIND OF A STANDARD ON FURNITURE.

UH, I'M NOT ASKING FOR ANY RECOMMENDATION TODAY, BUT OUR APPROVAL, DAVE.

BUT JUST KIND OF WANT TO PUT THAT IN Y'ALL'S MIND THAT MAYBE, MIGHT, MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER THAT.

UH, CUZ WE GET REQUESTS THAT ARE ALL OVER THE MAP OR DIFFERENT STYLE, DIFFERENT BRANDS.

SOMETIMES THEY HAVE TO BE, UH, THEY'RE SHIPPED, UH, IN A CARTON.

THEY HAVE TO BE PUT TOGETHER.

AND WHEN IT ARRIVES, UH, THERE AGAIN, UH, A LOT OF THE COUNTIES ARE HAVING A STANDARD, UH, WHERE YOU HAVE ONE VENDOR THAT DOES THAT AND EVERYTHING BEGINS TO LOOK THE SAME ACROSS THE COUNTY.

UH, I JUST, I THINK WE OUGHT TO LOOK AT THAT.

I, I WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION IF YOU GUYS, DO YOU HAVE SOME SAMPLES OR EXAMPLES THAT YOU CAN BRING TO US THAT OTHER COUNTIES ARE DOING THAT'S SAVING THEM MONEY? AND WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANNA HAVE TO PUT FURNITURE TOGETHER WHEN IT SHOWS UP.

RIGHT? IT TELLS ME IT'S PRETTY SORRY.

FURNITURE.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST MY WAY OF THINKING.

I AGREE.

WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING TO IMPROVE THE FURNITURE THAT, THAT, UH, IS IN THE JUSTICE CENTER, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

UH, THERE'S BEEN SOME ISSUES WITH QUALITY, UH, YES, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.

UH, SO WE'RE EXPLORING A COUPLE OF VENDORS AND WE'RE TRYING TO FINALIZE THAT.

AND WHEN WE GET THE PRICING DOWN, UH, WHERE IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN AFFORD THAT'S, THAT'S SIMILAR OR MAYBE LESS THAN WE SPENT, UH, BEFORE, UH, WE COULD HAVE A SITUATION.

WE GO LOOK AT THE FURNITURE SHOWROOM AND GET APPROVAL.

OKAY.

BRING SOME SAMPLES BACK PICTURE.

CAN, CAN WE, I MEAN, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BASICALLY A STANDARDIZATION OF AN OFFICE LAY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CALL IT, BUT A DESK, I, THE OFFICE LAYOUT IS STANDARDIZED.

SO IF PART A OF MINE TEARS UP, THEN MAYBE SOMEONE'S PART B AND WE CAN JUST, INSTEAD OF BUYING A WHOLE NEW SET, WE CAN, WELL, NOT ONLY THAT, IT'S LIKE IF, IF IT COULD BE LIKE, IF YOU WANT TO SETTLE ON ONE BRAND, IF IT'S HAN OR NATIONAL, WHATEVER THAT BRAND MIGHT BRAND MIGHT BE, BUT YOU HAVE A TWO OR THREE CONFIGURATION, MAYBE AN L-SHAPED OR A DISC AND A CREDENZA OR A U-SHAPE.

BUT IF YOU HAVE ONE VENDOR AND YOU GET A PRODUCT THAT HAS LIKE A LIFETIME WARRANTY, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, OR A VENDOR THAT YOU CAN GO BACK IF YOU HAVE AN ISSUE OR IF YOU WANT TO ADD TO SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE, HAVE THE ABILITY TO MATCH.

WE JUST HAVE DIFFERENT THINGS ALL OVER THE COUNTY AND SINCE WE'RE KIND OF GETTING STANDARD IN, IN THE NEXT TWO BUILDINGS, IT'D JUST BE A GOOD TIME TO DO THAT.

UH, THAT MAKES IT EASIER.

YEAH, SURE.

PURCHASING AND IT MAY THEN WE HAVE, WE KNOW WHAT THE QUALITY IS.

I SOME OF THE CONFIGURATIONS MAY CHANGE, BUT THE QUALITY SHOULD BE GOOD.

YEAH.

AND IT'S ALSO AN ISSUE I GIVE, I GET REQUESTING LIKE, IS, IS THIS TOO MUCH TO SPEND IS RIGHT $2,000 TOO MUCH FOR A DESK OR IT'S 1500.

IF WE CAN GET KIND OF A STANDARD, UH, THAT THIS IS ACCEPTABLE TOP DESK AND BRAND THAT'S ON A STATE CONTRACT OR WHATEVER, UH, IT MAKES A LOT EASIER FOR EVERYONE.

MM-HMM.

, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NO, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

NOW I'D BE GLAD TO BRING THAT BACK ONCE WE, UH, IRON OUT THE, UH, UH, EXPANSION BUILDING AND, AND GET A PRODUCT.

AND I'D LIKE TO JUST, I GLANCE ON THIS ONE AND LET HIM BRING SOME STUFF BACK TO US SAYING, I DON'T KNOW, ONE TIME.

YEAH.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW WE'RE GONNA MATCH IT.

CAUSE WE GOT A WHOLE BUILDING FULL OF SOMETHING.

NOBODY LIKES .

WELL, WE'RE NOT GONNA MATCH THAT , WE'RE NOT GONNA MATCH IT.

WE'RE GONNA BE IN TROUBLE OKAY.

SEASON THAT, UH, BUT YEAH, WE JUST BUY OFF FROM THE STATE PRISON AND CAN MOVE ON.

RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON

[23. Jack Sebastian; Discuss/Consider County credit card policy/usage.]

IN NUMBER 23, JACK, TO DISCUSS COUNTY CREDIT CARD POLICY AND USAGE.

YES SIR.

AND GENTLEMEN, I'M NOT, I'M NOT HERE TO LIKE GET SOMETHING APPROVED TODAY.

JUST KIND OF WANT BRING YOU UP TO DATE.

UH, I WAS GOING TO LEAVE THIS ALONE.

LET THE NEXT PERSON AGENT KIND OF TACKLE THIS, BUT I SEE WHERE THE CARDS HAVE KIND OF GOTTEN OUTTA HAND TO SOME EXTENT.

UH, BACK IN THE DAY WE PROBABLY HAD SIX, UH, MASTERCARDS.

NOW THERE'S PROBABLY 15 OUT THERE.

UH, WE HAVE HOME DEPOTS, LOWE'S, TRACTOR SUPPLY, ATWOOD, YOU NAME IT.

I'M TRYING TO CONSOLIDATE THAT.

SO WE MAY BE LOOKING AT, ONE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO CANCEL ALL THESE, UH, HOME DEPOTS AND, AND, UH, LOWE'S, WHATEVER, AND JUST UTILIZE THE CURRENT CARD WE HAVE, UH, ON CREDIT CARDS.

SPOKE TO THE AUTHOR, UH, AND MENTIONED THAT WE ALSO WOULD GET REBATE ON THESE CARD ON THE MASTERCARD.

BUT, UH, IT'S KIND OF GOT OUTTA HAND IN MY MIND THAT WE HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT ONES THAT WE HAVE TO MONITOR AND, UH, PAY BILL EACH MONTH.

IT'D BE A LOT EASIER.

JUST HAVE ONE CARD.

WITH THE EXCEPTION OF WALMART, I THINK, UH, I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND TO LEAVE THAT ALONE BECAUSE THERE'S A WALMART IN EVERY AREA, BASICALLY.

YEAH.

UH, JUST TRYING.

AND IT'S DOWN TO TWO CREDIT CARDS ESSENTIALLY.

YES, SIR.

AND, AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING NOW, YOU KNOW, THIS THING WAS SET UP AND IF YOU READ THE MANUAL, IT'S, IT'S JUST FOR A WORK STOPPAGE.

UH, BUT WE'RE SEEING NOW THAT THE CARDS ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE USED FOR EVERYTHING AND WE'RE EVEN EXCEEDING THE, THE LIMIT ON, UH, WHAT'S IN THE POLICY.

WE MAY NEED TO CHANGE THE POLICY, BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT WAS SET UP THERE AGAIN TO PREVENT WORK STOPPAGE.

AND IT'S KIND OF A, UH, PRIVILEGE IF YOU WOULD,

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TO HAVE THAT CARD TO BE ABLE TO USE IT.

BUT WE'RE, WE'RE SEEING IT USED FOR THINGS THAT, UH, THAT COMPANIES THAT WOULD TAKE A PURCHASE ORDER, FOR EXAMPLE.

RIGHT.

SO THAT'S KIND OF GOT, IT'S KIND OF GOT TO WHERE IT'S USED TO, TO UH, CIRCUMVENT THE PURCHASING PART TO BE, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

UH, OKAY.

BUT JUST KINDA WANNA LET YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT, WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.

WE'RE HAVING A HARD TIME AT THE END OF THE MONTH GETTING ALL, ALL THE RECEIPTS IN.

IT PUTS US LATE SOMETIMES GETTING THE BILLS PAID, UH, BECAUSE WE CAN'T GET THE RECEIPTS TURNED IN.

RIGHT.

AND EVEN IN THE POLICY, IT MENTIONS THAT IT, THAT IF YOU'RE, YOU'RE WARNED OR ASKED TWICE, FORGET THE RECEIPT IN THAT YOU COULD BE SUBJECT TO HAVE YOUR CARD CUT OFF.

SO, UH, FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.

SO, SO WOULD YOU MIND SENDING US A LIST OF WHO'S GIVING YOU A PROBLEM SO THAT WE COULD MAYBE WE COULD DISCUSS THAT WITH THEM? WE COULD HAVE THAT DISCUSSION CARD OFF.

WELL, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I'M THINKING AND IT IS NOT THE SAME PERSON EACH TIME.

DON'T GET ME WRONG, IT'S JUST, JUST, I MEAN, WELL, I MEAN, EVERYBODY CAN MAYBE NOT HAVE ONE RECEIPT OR SOMETHING, BUT YOU CAN'T JUST CONTINUALLY, REPEATEDLY DOING IT.

RIGHT.

I THINK, UH, I THINK WE TURN OURS IN EVERY TIME, DON'T WE? WE WE MISS ANY I'M JUST SAYING THAT IF, IF, IF WE CAN DO IT, I, I BELIEVE EVERYBODY CAN DO IT.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT A GOOD EXCUSE NOT TURNING IN RECEIPTS.

WE, WE'LL GIVE THIS A FRESH START.

OKAY.

AND THEN IF, IF WE SEE IT HAPPENING, CONTINUE, THEN I'LL, THEN I'LL, I CAN DO THAT.

SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU WANT TO COME BACK WITH ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION TO GO TO TWO CARDS.

I'M JUST YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA TRY TO DO.

I WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION IF YOU GUYS ARE GOOD WITH THAT, THAT, THAT WE ELIMINATE THESE CARDS THAT ARE DESIGNED FOR ONE PARTICULAR STORE WHEN WE HAVE A MASTERCARD, UH, AND WE GET REQUEST AND WE GET REQUESTS EVERY DAY TO ADD CARDS.

OKAY.

JUST THAT SOUND TIME WITH THAT.

YOU'RE FINE WITH THAT.

OKAY.

YEAH.

I DON'T KNOW WHY I CAN'T, I, I DON'T KNOW WHY I CAN'T USE THEN LET'S SAY ONE CARD.

I'M AWARE IATION IS WE GO TO ONE MASTERCARD AND A WALMART CARD.

THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.

YES SIR.

THAT WOULD BE IT.

YES, SIR.

BUT WALMART ALSO TAKES THAT SAME CARD.

THE, THE THING ABOUT WALMART, YOU MAY HAVE MORE WALMART CARDS OUT THERE, UH, THAT YOU WOULDN'T HAVE, WOULDN'T WANT TO ISSUE A MASTERCARD, YOU KNOW, THE EXPOSURE.

I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

THAT'S KINDA WHAT I'M GETTING AT.

THERE'S, THERE'S PEOPLE THAT HAVE JUST A WALMART CART.

OKAY.

YES.

IT COULD BE SOMEWHERE.

I GET YOU NOW OF CLOTHES.

SOME FOR WATER.

YEAH.

OKAY.

BECAUSE LIKE US, WE DON'T EVEN USE A WALMART CART.

I MEAN, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO POINT.

I WON'T EVEN WANT TO KEEP TRACK OF ONE.

OKAY.

YOU KNOW, I'D BE DOWN THE ONE HAVE JACK'S RECOMMENDATION.

SO WE NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT.

YEP.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR THAT.

MR. PHELPS MAKES THE MOTION.

GO TO TWO CREDIT CARDS.

ONE MASTERCARD, ONE WALMART.

MM-HMM.

.

NEED A SECOND? SECOND COMMISSION MOORE.

MAKE A SECOND.

NEED FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU JACK AGAIN.

[24. Jack Sebastian; Discuss matters related to the budget for the KSO Sub-Station construction project.]

NUMBER 24, DISCUSS MATTERS RELAT TO THE BUDGET FOR THE CASTLE SUBSTATION CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.

YES SIR.

I APOLOGIZE.

I'LL LET YOU GET TOO.

YOU KINDA WANNA GET THE LATEST UPDATE.

UH, WOO.

I ALMOST NEED A MAGNIFY GLASS.

I NEED A MAGNIFY GLASS.

I KNOW.

JUST HAPPENED TO HAVE ONE.

YOU GAVE ME TWO OF THOSE.

SEE IF YOU GO TO THE, YOU GAVE ME TWO OF EM.

WELL, ONE FOR EACH CHILD.

MY WIFE TOOK MY SACK AND SHE WON'T GIVE 'EM BACK TO ME.

, SHE'S IN CHARGE.

SHE'S WATCHING.

I'M TELLING.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

I GUESS THE SHORT VERSION GENTLEMEN ON THAT IS, IS WE HAD A CONTINGENCY, UH, COMBINED OF, OF 218,000 180 5.

UH, WE'RE CURRENTLY, UH, BALANCE IS IS 95,000 8 42.

THERE'S ROUGHLY 1 0 2, $102,048.

UH, ON THE BOTTOM, BOTTOM SECTION OF THE, OF THE CODED THAT THAT IS THE, UH, SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

IT WAS, UH, IT WAS THINGS THAT, UH, UH, WERE LEFT OFF AS FAR AS IT INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WERE NOT PART OF THE ORIGINAL SCOPE.

AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAVE HAS MET WITH THE CONTRACTOR AND US AND SHOW WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY NEED IN THEIR TRAINING ROOM, FOR EXAMPLE.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S ONE PORTION THAT WAS NOT INCLUDED, UH, IN THE ORIGINAL SCOPE AND JUST, JUST WANTED YOU GUYS TO BE AWARE THAT WE'RE GETTING OVER THAT ORIGINAL AMOUNT BUDGETED.

AND, UH, YOU SEE WHAT, YOU SEE ALL THE, UH, CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE IN THE PAST.

I'VE, I'VE BEEN TRYING, BEEN TRYING TO SEND YOU GUYS AN EMAIL WITH THOSE.

BUT THAT'S A LIST OF 'EM THAT, UH, WOULD'VE BEEN APPROVED AND

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HAVE BEEN CORRECTED WITH THE EXCEPTION OF, OF THE TWO ITEMS, THE 79,267 AND THE 22 7 81, UH, THAT'S STILL HANGING OUT THERE.

AND THERE AGAIN, IT WAS, IT WAS LEFT OFF.

AND THE SHERIFF POINTED OUT THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE THAT, THAT OPERATION OUT THERE.

SO WHAT ELSE WAS, UH, SHERIFF YOU MAY WANT TO ADD TO WHAT JACK SAYS.

WHAT ELSE WAS LEFT OFF THE ORIGINAL BID OTHER THAN THE IT STUFF? DO WE HAVE FURNITURE INVOLVED INVOLVED IN THIS OR NOT? THAT'S THE NEXT STEP.

I THINK I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY THAT, THAT THE, UH, FFF AND E WAS NOT INCLUDED ON THIS ORIGINAL SCOPE AND I CAN'T EXPLAIN WHY, BUT IT, IT WAS NOT INCLUDED.

OKAY.

AND THIS IS KIND OF STRANGE.

HOW, HOW DO YOU BUILD SOMETHING TO LEAVE IT OFF OF IT? WELL, IT, IT'S KIND OF A PROBLEM.

LET ME GET OUT.

THEY, THEY WERE LEFT, LEFT OUTTA THE DECISION MAKING.

WELL WHEN IT COME TO THAT SAME THING AS WE'RE DEALING WITH THE, UH, JUSTICE CENTER IS THEY ONLY PUT DATA IN CERTAIN AREAS WHERE Y'ALL KNOW THIS WAS HOW MUCH, AS MUCH AS WE CHANGE OVER THE YEARS, YOU NEED DATA ON EVERY WALL.

THEY DIDN'T DO IT.

THEY MAYBE HAD ONE DATA IN, IN THE WHOLE ROOM.

UH, AND THAT DON'T WORK.

SO THAT'S WHY WE MOVE IT AROUND.

IT'S JUST LIKE OUR BUILDING NOW.

WE HAVE DATA ON EVERY WALL AND PLUGS ON EVERY WALL AND WHATEVER FIGURATION YOU MAKE THAT OFFICE, IT WORKS.

UH, SO, OR IF YOU MAKE IT INTO TWO CUBICLES, IT WORKS.

SO THAT'S OUR DEAL.

WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT FEASIBLE TO GROW WITH WHATEVER CHANGES ME, WHOEVER IS AFTER ME, TO BE ABLE TO ADAPT THAT BUILDING TO MAKE IT WORK.

AND THAT'S WHY WE MADE THEM CHECK.

SO YOU'VE HAD TIME TO LOOK AT THE PLANS OF MAKE YEAH.

SINCE WE MADE THESE CHANGES OH, WE NEED OR WHAT YOU NEED.

YES.

YES.

RIGHT NOW IS, IS IS WHAT WE BELIEVE IS FEASIBLE IN MAKING IT TO WORK FROM NOW AND ON.

OKAY.

SO AND FURNITURE, HIS BIGGEST PORTION WOULD NOT WAS, IS IN THEIR TRAINING AREA.

YEAH.

THAT WAS NOT, YOU NEED LOT OF DATA IN THERE.

YES.

AND FIGURE THAT OUT FROM THE JUSTICE CENTER ALL ON, SUDDEN THAT AND MOVE ALL THE IT THINGS YOU PICK UP AND GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT FOR NOW.

UH, NO, BECAUSE WHAT WHAT, THEY NEVER REALLY GOT US INVOLVED BESIDES THE LAYOUT.

AND THEN WHEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT DATA AND STUFF, THAT'S WHY I SENT MY IT P I SAID MAKE SURE WE GOT THE RIGHT DATA WHERE WE NEED IT.

CUZ WE ALREADY SEEN SOFTWARE GOING OVER WHAT I'M SAYING, BUT NOBODY EVEN INCLUDED US.

THE ENGINEERS JUST DECIDED WELL YES, THEY KNEW EVERYTHING THERE, WHICH THEY DON'T KNOW HOW WE OPERATE, SO.

RIGHT.

THAT'S SOMETHING JACK JUST SAID THAT I THINK IS REAL IMPORTANT IS HE WAS LEAVING THE MIC THERE.

WOULD YOU MIND REPEATING WHAT YOU SAID? JACK ? WHAT WAS THAT ABOUT THE, THE TRAINING WEREN'T INCLUDED IN THE PROCESS.

I'M, I'M HEARING A LOT OF THAT IN, IN THE JUSTICE CENTER, UH, THAT THE FOLKS WERE INVOLVED AND OF COURSE WE'VE SEEN IT WITH THE FURNITURE AND THE CHANGES.

SO IMMEDIATELY I BROUGHT ON, BROUGHT ON THE SHERIFF TO GET HIM INVOLVED IN THIS.

AND UH, THAT'S WHEN WE FOUND OUT THAT THESE ITEMS ARE NOT INCLUDED.

SO.

OKAY.

YEAH, I'D LIKE TO, THE USERS, USERS WERE NOT IN INCLUDED.

ONE THING I'D LIKE TO SAY, SINCE YOU'VE BEEN WHERE YOU ARE WITH US COMING BACK AFTER RETIRING, ALL THAT, YOU'VE BROUGHT A LOT OF THINGS TO OUR ATTENTION THAT HAVE BEEN DONE INCORRECTLY OR JUST WEREN'T DONE AT ALL OR WHATEVER.

YOU CAUGHT A LOT OF THINGS.

I APPRECIATE IT.

WELL, I APPRECIATE YOU SIR.

, APPRECIATE YOU.

AND WE HAVE A CONTRACTOR BACK HERE.

WE DO.

AND, AND GREG'S HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS CONCERNING, AND HE'S BEEN EASY TO WORK WITH.

YES.

AND CHANGE WE'VE REQUESTED, ESPECIALLY IN THE EXPANSION HAS BEEN DONE AND PEOPLE WERE INVOLVED IN THAT.

AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S A PLUS.

MM-HMM.

AND THE STATE OF THE COUNTY, THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS THAT WE GOT THAT DONE BEFORE THE DRYWALLS WENT IN.

SO, AND HE, HE HAS TWISTED THE ARMS TO SOME, SOME OF THESE GUYS OUT THERE THAT TO LOWER THE PRICE.

, THERE WAS AN ELEVATOR ISSUE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT GET, YOU GET PARTS ORDERED AND THERE'S A DELAY AND THEN THE PARTS COME IN AND THERE'S BEEN INCREASES.

AND, UH, THEY WANTED TO RAISE THE INCREASE ONE AREA FOR LIKE 80,000 AND HE SAID, NO, YOU KNOW, WE'LL GIVE YOU 30.

AND, UH, SO HE'S BEEN INSTRUMENTAL ON, ON KEEPING THIS, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'LL NEED THAT MORE ON THE, UH, SHERIFF'S SUBSTATION THAN ANYWHERE THAT, THAT THAT IS RIGHT.

ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE NOT NO FURNITURE.

YEAH.

AND I'LL GET, I'LL GET A FURNITURE FIGURE.

OKAY.

MY HOPES ARE TO KIND OF COMBINE THE FURNITURE FOR HIS AREA WITH THE EXPANSION AND WE MAY GET REDUCTION IN PRICE, SAVE MONEY IN BOTH AREAS BY DOING THAT.

SO I, I'LL BE ABLE TO GET YOU A FIGURE.

OKAY.

BUT JUST KINDA WANNA LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT, THAT WE'RE GONNA BE ASKING FOR MORE MONEY ON THIS PROJECT.

SURE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY.

NUMBER, UH, THAT WAS IT FOR JACK.

WE GOT MR. OWEN CANTRELL

[25. Owen Cantrell/Commissioner Moore; Discuss/Consider/Approve East Fork lateral 10 Dam Operations and Management Contract with NRCS.]

NEXT, AND THIS IS GONNA BE BETWEEN OWEN AND COMMISSIONER MOORE.

DISCUSSED AND APPROVE EAST FOR LATERAL 10 DAM OPERATIONS AND MANAGEMENT CONTRACT WITH N RRCS.

MORNING OWEN.

GOOD MORNING.

THIS, UH, THIS IS A O AND M AGREEMENT BETWEEN, UH, NRCS, WHICH IS NATURAL RESOURCES CONSERVATION SERVICE.

AND THEY, THAT'S THE FEDERAL END OF, OF THESE, UH, DAM OPERATIONS AND THE LOCAL SPONSORS,

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WHICH THAT IS THE SOIL CON SOIL WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT.

AND THE COUNTY, THE COUNTY IS, IS A SPONSOR ON ALL THESE.

AND THIS IS KIND OF A GENERAL, UH, O AND M AGREEMENT.

UH, THERE'S A COUP, AND THIS IS A SITE SPECIFIC AGREEMENT.

MOST OF MOST AGREEMENTS ARE COVERS THE WATERSHED COVERS ALL THE SITES IN A PARTICULAR WATERSHED.

BUT THIS ONE, SINCE THIS ONE IS GOING GOING TO BE REHABBED, UH, IT'S WILL HAVE A NEW LIFE EXPECTANCY OF 100 YEARS.

THE, IT WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT IN 1954 WITH A LIFE EXPECTANCY OF 50 YEARS, WHICH IT'S EXCEEDED THAT BY A WHOLE LOT.

BUT ONE, ONCE IT IS UPGRADED, ITS LIFE EXPECTANCY IS EXTENDED FOR ANOTHER A HUNDRED YEARS.

AND THAT'S ONE, ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT IS SPECIFIC TO THIS, UH, O AND M POLICY.

UH, ANOTHER ONE IS, UH, THAT THE COUNTY HAS A FUND SET UP FOR THIS SITE, BUT I, I'VE TALKED WITH, TALKED WITH NRCS SINCE THE COUNTY ALREADY HAS A FUND SET UP FOR GENERAL O AND M FOR, FOR THE OTHER SITES, YOU WILL NOT HAVE TO SET UP A SITE SPECIFIC.

OKAY.

THIS GOOD ITEM.

WELL, THAT'S OKAY.

YOU WANNA HAVE TO HAVE A SINGLE LINE ITEM JUST FOR THIS ONE SITE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

I BROUGHT THIS, I WAS IN HERE I GUESS BACK IN OCTOBER FOR THIS, AND WE HAD KIND OF A MIX UP ON, ON GETTING IT SIGNED.

AND UH, I HAVE A NEW CLEAN COPY TO YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR.

MM-HMM.

, I GUESS YOU WANT ME TO SIGN THIS THING? THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT.

WELL, ONCE, ONCE Y'ALL SAY APPROVED.

YES.

OKAY.

.

WE'D WANT TO DO IT BEFORE YOU SAY APPROVED.

THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED LAST TIME.

BUT ANYWAY, UH, THIS WILL GO FROM, FROM HERE, IT WILL GO TO THE, TO THE NRC S THEY'LL APPROVE IT.

UH, THERE'S A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT THEY DO REQUIRE TO GO ALONG WITH THIS FOR THIS, UH, PROJECT TO CONTINUE.

UH, ONE OF THEM IS, UH, HAVE AN E A P EMERGENCY ACTION PLAN IN PLACE.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT IS IN THE WORKS FOR A COUNTYWIDE PLAN.

AND I THINK STEVE, NO, WE'RE LOOKING AT HIM.

HE'S BACK THERE IN THE BACK.

UH, HE'S TRYING TO HIDE, BUT HE CAN'T, HE CAN'T HIDE.

NO, WE CAN'T.

NO.

TREES NOT BIG.

THAT'S ONE THING.

AND THERE'S NOT A BIG ENOUGH TREE IN THE ROOM, .

ANYWAY, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

THAT IS, UH, SUPPOSED TO BE, UH, FINISHED UP FOR TOO LONG.

UH, ANOTHER ONE IS WE HAD HAVE TO HAVE ALL THE EASEMENTS IN PLACE.

WELL, I, I FINALLY GOT THE FINAL EASEMENT FOR THIS SITE APPROVED, UH, THE OTHER DAY.

UH, I FILED IT YESTERDAY AT COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE.

UH, KAREN HAS A COPY OF THAT.

GOOD.

AND ALL THE EASEMENTS HAVE TO GO, HAVE TO HAVE A, UH, LETTER OF OPINION BY AN ATTORNEY SIGNED OFF ON IT FOR THE VALIDITY OF THE EASEMENTS.

MAKE SURE ALL OUR EASEMENTS ARE GOOD, RIGHT? AND HOPEFULLY WE, WE CAN GET, SHE CAN GET THAT DONE FOR US.

AND WHAT ANOTHER WAS THE O ONE M AGREEMENT.

WE GET THE O ONE M AGREEMENT SIGNED.

ANOTHER ONE IS THE SURVEY OF THE SITE, WHICH I, THAT IS THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

SO, OKAY.

YOU NEED ANY QUESTIONS ON THE, UH, O AND M AGREEMENT? ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? IF NOT, I NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

COMMISSIONER MOORE MAKES A MOTION.

NEED A SECOND? SECOND COMMISSION.

MOORE MAKES A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT EVERYONE SAY AYE.

AYE.

OKAY.

MR. CANTRELL, NUMBER

[26. Owen Cantrell; Discuss/Consider/Approve Survey proposal for East Fork lateral 10 Dam survey.]

26.

DISCUSS, CONSIDERING, APPROVE THE SURVEY PROPOSAL FOR EACH FORK LATERAL 10 DAM SURVEY.

THAT, AS I SAID, THAT'S ANOTHER ITEM THAT, UH, NRCS REQUIRES ON THIS SIDE, IS TO HAVE A, UH, MEETS AND BOUND SURVEY DONE ON THE ENTIRE SITE.

UH, THIS IS A VERY LARGE SITE, ENCOMPASSES 50 SOME ODD DIFFERENT LANDOWNERS INVOLVED IN IT.

NOW, WHERE ORIGINALLY THERE WAS ONLY ABOUT 10, NOW THERE'S 50.

AS ALL THIS HAS BEEN SPLIT UP, I HAVE A, UH, A, UH, ESTIMATE OR A BID? NO, NOT AN ESTIMATE.

IT'S A BID FOR THE SURVEY OF $34,671 88 CENTS.

AND WHAT THEY WILL, THE WAY THIS, THIS IS SET UP TO DO A ON THE GROUND MEETS AND BOUNDS

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AS WELL AS A DRONE, UH, SURVEY, AND THEY PUT 'EM TOGETHER TO MAKE THE ENTIRE SURVEY WITH IT.

AND THEY SAY IT WILL TAKE THREE TO FOUR WEEKS TO COMPLETE IT ALL.

AND ONCE IT'S COMPLETE, WE CAN GET THAT IN.

THERE IS, UH, MONEY THROUGH THE STATE TO PAY FOR THIS.

UH, I WILL COME TO YOU NEXT WEEK WITH THAT AGREEMENT FROM THE STATE TO PAY THESE.

BUT IT IS, UH, IT WILL BE A HUN 100% REIMBURSED FEE FOR THE SURVEY AND THE ATTORNEY'S OPINION ON THE EASEMENTS.

OKAY? WHICH THAT'LL, THAT'LL BE NEXT WEEK.

.

I DUNNO IF THEY PUT SALES TAX ON HERE.

UH, WELL, WE'LL TAKE, TAKE THAT OFF.

WE'LL, THEY'LL, THEY'LL TAKE THAT OFF.

OKAY.

THAT'S, THAT'LL MAKE IT $33,500.

YES, SIR.

WE'LL TAKE THE TAX OFF.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

AND THIS WOULD BE AN, THIS, UH, SURVEYOR THAT WILL HAVE TO HAVE A, UH, SOME KIND OF A APPRO OR A AGREEMENT BETWEEN HIM AND THE, AND THE, UH, COUNTY FOR THEIR HOWEVER EVER.

HOW THEY GOING TO PAY THIS? I DON'T, I GUESS KAREN CAN WORK ON THAT.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

GOOD DEAL.

CHECK .

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE MR. OWEN? THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.

THEN I NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS FOR, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

MR. MOORE MAKES MO UH, MOORE MAKES THE MOTION.

SECOND, MY COMMISSIONER BARBER.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU, OWEN.

THANK Y'ALL.

THANK YOU.

I'LL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

[Items 27 - 31]

OKAY.

ITEMS 27 8, 9, UH, 30, 31 AND 32 ARE ALL INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS WITH COMMISSIONER MOORE.

WE'RE GONNA LUMP THESE ALL INTO ONE.

THAT WAY WE CAN, WE DO, UH, YOU ALL AT ONCE.

CAN WE DO 27 JUDGE THROUGH 31 AND DO 32 SEPARATE? THAT'S A, THE OTHER ONES ARE JUST GENERAL AGREEMENTS.

THE OTHER ONE'S GONNA BE A LITTLE MORE.

OKAY.

THEN WE'LL DO 27 THROUGH 31.

THEY'RE ALL JUST RENEWALS OF INTER LOCAL AGREEMENTS WITH THE CITY OF CRANDLE, MAYBANK, GRAY PRAIRIE, COTTONWOOD, AND KEMP.

YES.

THIS IS JUST FOR GENERAL, UH, INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS FOR ROAD WORK AND STUFF THAT WE AGREE EVERY YEAR, UH, TO HELP THE COMMUNITIES WITH THEIR COUNTY ROAD PROJECTS.

OKAY.

SO I NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT, UH, MAKE THAT MOTION COMMISSION.

MOORE MAKES THE MOTION.

NEED A SECOND? I'LL SECOND QUESTION.

HUNT.

MAKE A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

UH, MOTION CARRIES.

OKAY, NUMBER 32.

[32. Commissioner Moore; Discuss/Consider/Approve lnterlocal Agreement Between Kaufman and Henderson County regarding County Road 4044.]

COMMISSIONER MOORE DISCUSSED, CONSIDERED PROOF IN INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN KAUFMAN COUNTY AND HARRISON COUNTY REGARDING ROAD 40 44.

YES, SIR.

YEAH, I WAS WANTING TO, I JUST SEPARATED THAT ONE BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THE STANDARD ONE.

UH, THERE'S A CURRENT SUIT, UH, ONGOING, UH, LAWSUIT BETWEEN KAUFMAN COUNTY, HENDERSON COUNTY THAT'S ATTENDING.

UH, WE DROVE THE ROAD AND IT IS A VERY POOR CONDITION IN ONE AREA WHERE THERE'S BIG HOLES THAT, I MEAN, IF THEY'RE FULL OF WATER, YOU CAN'T SEE 'EM AND YOU COULD DAMAGE YOUR VEHICLE.

SO, SO I'M TRYING TO GET SOME TYPE OF RELIEF TO THESE, UH, RESIDENTS ON THIS STREET UNTIL EVERYTHING'S, UH, SETTLED IN THE COURT CASE.

SO I WAS ASKING, WE SPOKE WITH HENDERSON COUNTY, WE'RE IN THE GRAND INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT, UH, THAT WE CAN GET DOWN THERE, AT LEAST PATSY'S POTHOLE TO EVERYTHING'S, UH, UH, UH, SETTLED AND THEN WE CAN GO FROM THERE.

DO, DO WE NEED ANYTHING FROM HENDERSON COUNTY SAYING IT'S OKAY FOR US TO DO THAT? UM, JUDGE I TALKED WITH, UM, EMAILED WITH CLINT DAVIS, THE HENDERSON COUNTY ATTORNEY, AND HE SAID THAT HE DID NOT HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THE AGREEMENT.

I'M NOT EXPECTING ANY PROBLEMS. SO THEY KNOW ABOUT IT, KNOW THAT WE WERE PUTTING ON COURT.

AND SO AFTER THE COMMISSIONER SIGNED IT TODAY, IF THEY'RE IT'S APPROVED, THEN I WILL SEND THAT SIGNED COPY, UM, DOWN TO CLINT DAVIS, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY SO THAT HE CAN PUT IT ON HENDERSON COUNTIES.

UM, AND SO THAT WE CAN START WORKING ON THAT ROAD.

OKAY? OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

SO YOU HEARD THE, THE ISSUES I NEED A MOTION.

UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION.

MR. MOORE MAKES THAT MOTION.

NEED A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

MR. HUNT MAKES IT SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT EVERYONE SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

[33. Commissioner Moore; Discuss/Report on the current Kaufman County Enterprise lease Contract/ Agreement.]

UH, COMMISSIONER MOORE DISCUSSED A REPORT FOR COUNTY ROAD ENTERPRISE LEASE CONTRACT AGREEMENT.

YES, SIR.

UH, THE REASON I PUT THIS ON THE LIST IS I WAS, HAD A SITUATION WHERE I HAD, WHEN I COME INTO OFFICE, I HAD LIKE TWO LEASE VEHICLES.

UH, THEN I RECEIVED TWO MORE OF THESE TRUCKS OR PICKUPS.

THEY WERE PICKUP TRUCKS.

UH, AND WE RECEIVED TWO MORE.

AND THE TWO THAT LEFT US REALLY THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE TRUCKS.

UH, SO I HAD MADE A COMMENT I NEED TO, OR I TALKED TO TENNELL AND PERCH AND SAID, HEY, I, I DON'T NEED ANY MORE VEHICLES RIGHT NOW.

EVERYTHING WE HAVE, THEY'RE IN GOOD SHAPE.

AND SO ANYWAY, IT BROUGHT UP THE SUBJECT, I GUESS

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ENTERPRISE, ARE YOU ENTERPRISE MA'AM? WANTED TO COME IN AND SPEAK WITH EVERYBODY AND KIND OF GET A FEEL OF HOW THIS IS WORKING OUT UNDER THE SHERIFF'S.

GOT DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES THAN WE DO, SO KIND OF SEE HOW IT'S WORKING OUT AMONGST EVERYBODY.

SO THAT GOING FORTH, UH, WE CAN DISCUSS HOW WE'RE GONNA GO ABOUT THAT.

SO I KNOW I SPOKE WITH JACK ABOUT IT.

JACK HAD SOME INFORMATION AS WELL.

SO JUDGE, I'M GONNA TURN THIS OVER TO MY RESIDENT EXPERT ON, ON, UH, ENTERPRISE CAR LEASING ZELLE.

AND, AND SHE HAS A REP WITH HER TODAY.

GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING.

MORNING.

IF YOU WILL GIVE US YOUR NAME PLEASE.

KAYLA BATTLE.

AND YOU'RE WITH THE ENTERPRISE LEASING? YES SIR.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

I'M GOING TO SEE IF I CAN GET THIS PLUGGED IN.

THIS'LL WORK.

I SHOW YOU'ALL A LITTLE SOMETHING.

WILL IT JUST POP UP? YEAH, DO SOMETHING BACK THERE.

I DIDN'T TELL HER YOU WERE PUTTING OKAY, PERFECT.

THANK, THANK Y'ALL FOR HAVING ME.

UM, I'M CALEB BATTLE.

I'M THE CLIENT STRATEGY MANAGER WITH ENTERPRISE FLEET MANAGEMENT.

I'VE BEEN MANAGING Y'ALL'S ACCOUNTS SINCE WE CAME ON IN 2019.

UM, BUT I DID ASK NL IF I COULD COME OUT CAUSE I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A CHANGE WITHIN Y'ALL.

I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO MEET YOU YET, JUDGE.

SO I WANT TO COME OUT AND INTRODUCE MYSELF AND GET TO KNOW Y'ALL.

UM, I'VE BEEN WITH ENTERPRISE FOR NINE YEARS ON THE FLEET SIDE FOR ALMOST FIVE YEARS NOW, SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR.

I HAVE THE LARGEST BOOK OF BUSINESS OF GOVERNMENT CLIENTS, SO I DEFINITELY HAVE A GOOD FEEL OF WHAT Y'ALL ARE GOING THROUGH.

I ALSO MANAGE CITY OF KAUFMAN, UM, HARRISON COUNTY.

SO A LOT OF THE EAST TEXAS.

I'M OUT HERE VERY OFTEN.

SO I DID WANNA JUST KIND OF GIVE YOU A BROAD OVERVIEW OF THE PROGRAM AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR, UM, KAUFMAN COUNTY SO FAR.

AND THE PROGRAM IS REALLY, REALLY WORKING.

EVERYTHING IS GOING VERY WELL.

THESE, UM, CIRCLES YOU'LL SEE HERE.

THIS IS EVERYTHING THAT WE OFFER AND THAT WE'RE HELPING YOU ALL WITH.

SO ACQUIRING THE VEHICLE, HELPING FINANCE VEHICLES, Y'ALL ARE ON OUR FUEL PROGRAM MAINTENANCE PROGRAMS. WE'RE HELPING WITH RESELL ON A FEW VEHICLES.

WE'LL BE DOING A LOT MORE RESELL NOW THAT THE ENTERPRISE LEASE VEHICLES ARE COMING TO TERM.

WE HELP WITH AFTERMARKET SO THE VEHICLES ARE ARRIVING TO YOU ALL, UH, TURNKEY, READY ONCE Y'ALL GET YOUR VEHICLES, TTN NOW, THAT TYPE OF THING.

AND THEN THERE'S JUST A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT Y'ALL AREN'T USING RIGHT NOW, BUT OVERALL Y'ALL ARE REALLY UTILIZING THE PROGRAM AND IT'S DOING VERY, VERY WELL.

UM, JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW WHAT WE LOOK AT, BECAUSE WE DO GET IT OFTEN ABOUT HOW THESE VEHICLES LOOK LIKE THEY'RE IN GOOD SHAPE.

LIKE WHY ARE WE GETTING RID OF THEM ALREADY IS BECAUSE WE LOOK AT WHERE WHAT WE CALL THE SWEET SPOT IS.

AND THAT'S WHEN YOU KNOW, YOU BUY THE VEHICLES THEY'D APPRECIATE RIGHT AWAY AND THEN AFTER TIME YOUR FUEL GOES UP, YOUR MAINTENANCE STARTS TO GO UP.

AND RIGHT WHEN THAT PART HAPPENS ALTOGETHER, THAT'S WHEN WE KNOW IT'S THE TIME TO SELL YOUR VEHICLES.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE, WE ARE THE BEST AT.

WE ARE THE WORLD'S LARGEST WHEN IT COMES TO TAKING CARE OF VEHICLES.

WE HAVE OVER 2 MILLION VEHICLES WITH ENTERPRISE.

UM, I KNOW THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS ON MAINTENANCE.

IT'S SO AT ANY POINT IN TIME IF Y'ALL HAVE QUESTIONS INSIDE YES.

LIKE AN EXAMPLE, LIKE THIS MORNING I WAS TALKING TO MY MECHANIC AND WE HAVE ONE OF OUR LEASE TRUCKS DOWN THERE THAT HAS A, IT NEEDS A CONTROL ARM.

MM-HMM.

, BUT FORD HERE LOCAL, I GUESS WE USED PAUL MURRAY HERE.

THEY CANNOT GET THAT PART.

SO THIS TRUCK'S BEEN SETTING IN THE PARKING LOT FOR TWO MONTHS NOW, WAITING ON A PARK THAT WE COULD GET FROM THE INTERNET IF WE HAD TO BUY ONE AND HAVE THIS TRUCK IN OPERATION.

BUT MY CONCERN WAS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PAYING MONTHLY ON THIS TRUCK JUST TO SET IN OUR PARKING LOT CUZ WHERE WE HAVE TO TAKE IT FOR MAINTENANCE, CAN'T GET THE PARK RIGHT NOW.

SO THAT WAS ONE OF MY CONCERNS THAT YEAH, YOU KNOW, CAN WE MAINTENANCE OUR OWN VEHICLES? IS THAT PART OF THE AGREEMENT OR HOW THAT WORKS? SO YEAH, SO THERE ARE, THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT MAINTENANCE PROGRAMS THAT YOU'LL HAVE RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS THE MAINTENANCE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM AND THE FULL MAINTENANCE PROGRAM.

YOUR FULL MAINTENANCE IS FIXED AND BUDGETED WITHIN YOUR LEASE PAYMENTS RIGHT NOW.

SO YOU DON'T EVER HAVE TO PAY ANYTHING OUTTA POCKET FOR THOSE.

YOUR MAINTENANCE MANAGEMENT IS GONNA BE ON ANY COUNTY OWNED VEHICLES AND ANY EMERGENCY RESPONSE VEHICLES.

AND THAT'S JUST PASSED THROUGH.

SO OUR NATIONAL SERVICE DEPARTMENT HAS ALL ASE CERTIFIED TECHS.

THEY REVIEW AND NEGOTIATE ON YOUR BEHALF AND IT'S REALLY TO TAKE Y'ALL OUT OF ALL OF THE ADMIN AND HASSLE OF MAINTENANCE BECAUSE I KNOW WITH THE FLEET AS LARGE AS THIS COUNTY, THERE'RE GONNA BE A TON OF PHONE CALLS WHEN IT COMES TO THAT TYPE OF THING.

UM, BUT THEY MAKE SURE Y'ALL ARE BEING CHARGED THE RIGHT PART FOR PRICES AND LABOR AND THAT THE REPAIRS ACTUALLY NEEDED AND, AND HELP THE COUNTY THAT WAY.

IF THERE'S ONE-OFF SITUATIONS LIKE THAT, YOU CAN ALWAYS EMAIL MYSELF OR MICHELLE AND SEND US THAT UNIT NUMBER.

WE CAN HAVE OUR TEAM LOOK INTO IT LIKE, WHAT'S GOING ON, WHERE CAN WE MOVE THIS VEHICLE TO? HOW CAN WE GET IT FIXED QUICKER? UH, WE WILL ALWAYS HAVE A SOLUTION.

IT SHOULDN'T BE SITTING THERE FOR TWO MONTHS.

SO, UM, ANYONE OFFS LIKE THAT, DEFINITELY LET US KNOW RIGHT AWAY ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON AND WE CAN ASSIST WITH THAT.

YOU HAVE TO GET YOUR CARD FROM YOU.

OH YES, I WILL GO TOO.

UM, I DID WANNA LET Y'ALL KNOW TOO PRIOR, UM, TO PARTNERING WITH US ON THE ANALYSIS THAT WE DID IN THE VERY BEGINNING.

IN 2019, ON AVERAGE, Y'ALL WERE SPENDING ABOUT $320,000 A YEAR IN MAINTENANCE.

RIGHT NOW, LIFE TO DATE SPENT SINCE WE'VE PARTNERED IS AT 205,000.

SO THERE'S

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BEEN A HUGE DECREASE.

AND A A, A BIG PART OF THAT IS WE GOT RID OF ALL THOSE AGED VEHICLES BECAUSE THE MAINTENANCE EXPENSE IS SO HIGH ON THOSE.

AND THEN WE ARE HAVING VEHICLES THAT ARE ON WARRANTY AND THEN WE'RE HAVING VEHICLES THAT WILL ROTATE OUT BEFORE ANY EXPENSE GETS HIGH ON THEM.

AND THEN THE FIXED AND BUDGETED IT'S INFLATION PROOF.

I'M SURE Y'ALL KNOW RIGHT NOW THAT PARTS AND MATERIAL HAVE INCREASED LIKE CRAZY JUST LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE WORLD RIGHT NOW.

SO IT, IT UM, IT KEEPS THAT FROM HAPPENING TO YOU ALL BECAUSE THE, THE PRICE IS SET ON THAT.

THIS IS JUST KIND OF A LOOK AT JOE'S FLEET RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS THIS, WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS GOING VERY, VERY WELL.

BEFORE WE PARTNERED YOU WERE AVERAGING, YOUR VEHICLES ARE ABOUT 12 YEARS IN AGE RIGHT NOW.

YOUR FLEET IS ABOUT FOUR YEARS IN AGE.

SO WE'VE DECREASED IT BY OVER HALF.

UM, RIGHT NOW Y'ALL HAVE 192 VEHICLES, 139 OF THEM ARE ON LEASE WITH ENTERPRISE, WE'RE STARTING TO STANDARDIZE A FLEET.

MAJORITY OF YOUR FLEET NOW IS FORD.

IN GM YOU CAN SEE, UM, 20, 22, 21, 20 AND 19 ARE THE MAJORITY OF YOUR FLEET.

SO WE'RE REALLY GETTING THOSE AGED VEHICLES OUT AND BRINGING IN THE NEW VEHICLES.

WHERE WE DOMINATE IN THE INDUSTRY IS SELLING THE VEHICLES.

SO WHEN THESE LEASE VEHICLES COME TIME TO SELL, WE ARE THE TOP IN DOING THAT FOR YOU ALL.

WE HAVE OVER 700.

WE'RE MARKETING PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SELLING THE VEHICLE AS QUICK AS WE CAN FOR AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

AND WE DO THAT FOR YOU ALL.

WE GO THROUGH MANY CHANNELS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING THE BEST DEAL BACK FOR THE COUNTY.

ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT, THERE'S SOME RESALE NUMBERS JUST SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE'VE DONE.

BUT IN THE THREE YEARS OF Y'ALL SELLING VEHICLES, SO Y'ALL ARE GETTING RID OF THESE AGED VEHICLES AND Y'ALL HAVE INITIATED A LOT OF THE VEHICLE SALES ON YOUR OWN FOR THE AGED VEHICLES, BUT ABOUT $430,000 COMING BACK TO Y'ALL ON EQUITY FROM THE VEHICLE SALES.

SO THE THE RESALE PART PLAYS A HUGE PORTION INTO HOW WE'RE HELPING Y'ALL.

YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? UH, ON THE, I MAY BE WRONG, YOU CAN CRANK ME HONEST, BUT I UNDERSTAND LIKE ONE OF OUR VEHICLES WERE OUR OWN VEHICLES AND WHEN WE RECEIVED A NEW ONE YOU TOOK OR THE ENTERPRISE TOOK OUR VEHICLE THAT WAS PURCHASED AT ONE TIME MM-HMM.

.

SO IT WAS ALREADY PAID FOR AND TAKEN AWAY.

SO I'M ASSUMING, UH, SO IN MY, I'M JUST THINKING HERE THAT IF ONCE MY LEASE IS DONE, SAY WE GET RID OF THE LEASE, I HAVE NO VEHICLE CAUSE THE LEASE WOULD GO BACK TO UNLESS WE PURCHASED THAT VEHICLE.

SO WHEN, WHEN OUR VEHICLES GO, LIKE THE ONE THAT WAS TAKEN, THAT WAS PAID FOR, WHAT HAPPENS THAT VEHICLE, HOW ARE WE WINNING FROM GIVING YOU A LIKE A CHEVROLET TRUCK WITH 40,000 MILES ON IT AND THEN WE'RE RECEIVING THIS BRAND NEW TRUCK.

SO HOW, HOW IS THE COUNTY BENEFITING FROM THAT? I GUESS THAT'S MY QUESTION.

SO THE VEHICLE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS, WAS IT A COUNTY OWNED VEHICLE OR ANOTHER ONE OF OURS? IT WAS A COUNTY OWNED VEHICLE.

OKAY.

SO COUNTY OWNED, UH, VEHICLES.

WE, WE DEFINITELY HELP WITH YOU ALL SELLING YOUR VEHICLES AS WELL.

BUT SO WE SELL THE VEHICLE AND THE EQUITY MADE ON THAT VEHICLE GOES BACK TO THE COUNTY.

I THINK ZELLE CORRECT ME IF WRONG, I'VE BEEN DOING CHECKS, ISSUING CHECKS BACK WHEN THE VEHICLES ARE SOLD.

SOLD ASSETS CURRENTLY RECEIVED THE OKAY YOU DO THAT TYLER AUCTION.

OKAY.

FOR THE VEHICLE WE JUST SOLD FOR YOU, WE USE TYLER AUCTION.

OKAY.

SO YOU GET THAT MONEY AND THEN WE DEPOSIT IT INTO YOUR ACCOUNT.

OKAY.

AND THEN, SO LIKE I SAID, YOU HAVE SOME OF YOUR 2000 NINETEENS, WE'RE GONNA BE GOING INTO FOUR YEARS IN UM, PARTNERSHIPS.

SO THERE WILL BE VEHICLES, ENTERPRISE LEASE VEHICLES THAT ARE STARTING TO COME UP FOR TERM THAT WE'LL REPLACE AND THEY'LL HAVE LOW MILEAGE, WHICH IS THE COUNTIES AND GOVERNMENTS REALLY BENEFIT FROM THIS BECAUSE Y'ALL HAVE SUCH A GOOD BUY IN THE BEGINNING.

SO WE GET THE VEHICLE FOR SUCH A GOOD DEAL, WE SELL FOR REALLY HIGH AND THEN WE PAY OFF WHATEVER'S LEFT OWED ON THE VEHICLE AND ALL THAT MONEY GOES BACK TO THE COUNTY.

SO THAT'S WHAT'S GONNA BE COMING UP SOON AND WE'LL DO AN ANALYSIS, WE'LL DO IT, WE CAN DO IT PER COMMISSIONER, HOW PER DEPARTMENT, HOWEVER Y'ALL WANNA DO IT, TO LOOK AT Y'ALL'S FLEET INDIVIDUAL TO SHOW, YOU KNOW, AND OUR THING IS IT'S RECOMMENDATIONS.

WE'RE MAKING THE BEST RECOMMENDATION FOR YOU ALL.

IT'S COMPLETELY UP TO YOU ALL WHAT YOU DECIDE TO DO.

OKAY? I, I'M THE NEW GUY HERE.

SO YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN USING THIS, THE SHERIFF'S? NO, WE, WE HAD CALLED INTO THE PURCHASING OFFICE CAUSE WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH OURS.

WE HAVE SOME VEHICLES THAT WE KEPT CAUSE THEY WERE BRAND NEW.

MM-HMM AND I DIDN'T WANT TO LOSE THEM AND I WANT WANT TO USE 'EM UNTIL WE FELT LIKE WE GOT WANTED TO GET RID OF 'EM AND WE WERE HAVING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT GETTING OUT OF THE LEASE FOR MY PRECINCT AND WE MADE THE PHONE CALL ABOUT WHAT WAS LEFT, WHAT WAS AGAINST THESE VEHICLES TO GET 'EM OUT OF THE LEASE OR WHATEVER COST.

AND IF WE WANTED TO BUY THE VEHICLE, WHAT WOULD BE THE PRICE TO BUY THE VEHICLE.

MM-HMM , I MEAN WE KNOW THE VEHICLES WE HAVE.

YEAH.

AND IF WE CAN HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL SAVINGS BY BUYING WHAT WE HAVE AND BUYING OUT OF THE, THE LEASE AND BUYING THE VIN HAVE TITLED OF THE VEHICLE VERSUS DOING AWAY WITH THE LEASE AND GOING AND BUYING ONE OFF THE LOT.

MM-HMM.

.

SO WE WANT TO SEE THOSE NUMBERS.

SO IF YOU COULD, I MEAN LIKE WHAT YOU JUST SAID, IF YOU WOULD CAN BREAK IT DOWN TO EACH COMMISSIONER SO WE CAN MAKE GOOD DECISIONS OR DECISIONS, YOU KNOW, ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

AND

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IF IT WORKS OUT BETTER BY NUMBERS THIS'S AWAY.

BUT YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S TOUGH TO GET RID OF A VEHICLE THAT WITH, CAUSE SOME OF MY VEHICLES HAD 5,000, 6,000 MILES SO WE BOUGHT 'EM THE YEAR BEFORE MM-HMM.

AND I WASN'T ABOUT TO GIVE 'EM UP AND THEN PAY A LEASE AFTER I'VE ALREADY GOT A VEHICLE THAT'S PAID FOR.

I UNDERSTAND.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT NOW.

THE REST OF THEM WERE JUNKED CUZ I INHERITED STUFF THAT WE PIECE MILLED TRUCKS TOGETHER TO GET 'EM RUNNING AND YOU KNOW, SO THIS SAVED US AND GOT US OVER THE HUMP.

MM-HMM.

.

SO IT WAS A GOOD THING AT THE TIME.

YEAH.

BUT NOW, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE IN A GOOD SPOT, YOU KNOW, AND YEAH.

YOU KNOW, SO I JUST WANNA REASSESS THE TRUCK SITUATION MM-HMM .

SO IF YOU COULD HELP ME WITH THAT, I'D BE BE VERY APPRECIATIVE.

YEAH, WELL YOU CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT.

WE'RE RIGHT IN THAT TIME RIGHT NOW OR BUDGET SEIZING PLANNING IS STARTING WITH ALL OF OUR GOVERNMENTS.

SO WE'RE GOING THROUGH PRELIM BUDGETS AND GETTING THAT PREPARED FOR WHEN Y'ALL ARE IN FULL ON BUDGET SEASON.

SO WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT.

UM, THE, IT'S WORKING, YOU KNOW, BUT YOU HAVE TO FULLY SEE IT THROUGH TO SHOW THAT IT WORKS BECAUSE IF, IF YOU JUST STOP THEN EVENTUALLY YOU'RE GONNA END UP BACK WHERE YOU WERE BEFORE YOU PARTNERED WITH US WITH THE VEHICLES BEING 12, 15 YEARS OLD, MAINTENANCE EXPENSE BEING HIGHER.

SO YEAH.

BUT WE'LL SHOW, I'LL SHOW YOU ALL THE NUMBERS, WE'LL MAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, CUZ I MEAN I CAN SEE IT WITH HIGH VOLUME TURNOVER WITH THE, THE SHERIFF'S CARS, YOU KNOW, THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY RACK UP THE MILES, THEY'RE USED 20, YOU KNOW, EVERY DAY, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THEY'RE, YOU GET A LOT OF ABUSE, YOU KNOW, SO I CAN SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, BUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING TO A FLEET OF THREE OR FOUR TRUCKS, IT'S SOMETIMES IT MIGHT NOT BE AS BIG IMPACT AS WHAT YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

WE CAN LOOK AT IT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS? MM-HMM , THANK THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING AND IF YOU'LL SET UP THE TIME, YOU CAN VISIT IF THEY WANT.

UH, I'LL GET MY, MY CARDS AND HIM YOU REAL QUICK CAN ANSWER.

OKAY.

THANK YOU'ALL SO MUCH.

IT'S NICE TO MEETING EVERYBODY.

THANK YOU.

[34. Auditor; Discuss/Consider line-item and budget transfers/corrections.]

OKAY, NUMBER 34, AUDITOR DISCUSSED CONSIDERED LINE ITEM TRANSFERS AND BUDGETS CORRECTIONS.

YES MA'AM.

PLEASE EMAIL TO YOU EARLIER.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY WHAT? NO, NO CONCERNS.

I NEED A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

MR. BES MAKES A MOTION.

NEED A SECOND? I SECOND COMMISSION MAKES A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

[35. Auditor; Discuss/Consider claims for payment and/or Financial Information as provided by the County Auditor.]

NUMBER 35 ALTER DISCUSSED.

CONSIDER CLAIM FOR PAYMENT OR FINANCIAL INFORMATION AS PROVIDED BY THE COUNTY AUDITOR.

YES MA'AM.

I'M GLAD YOU'RE SITTING DOWN.

UM, THE CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT ARE $10,156,717 AND 64 CENTS.

A PAYROLL OF 1,000,657 $982 AND 9 CENTS FOR TOTAL PAYOUT OF 11,814,400 $699 AND 73 CENTS NOW, SO YOU DON'T PANIC.

7.3 MILLION WAS ALL THE DEBT PAYMENTS THAT CHUCK AND I MADE ON TIME SO WE WOULDN'T BE IN DEFAULT.

THAT WAS ALL THE BOND ISSUES.

OKAY.

GOOD NEWS THEN ON THE 2020 FACILITIES BOND WE HAD 931,000 WORTH OF BILLS, A RPA EXPENDITURES 561 AND THEN OUR PAYMENTS FOR OUR LEASE OPTIONS.

UM, OPERATING LEASE PAYMENTS, APPRAISAL, DISTRICT INMATE MEDICAL CULVERTS AND THINGS.

THAT'S WHAT MADE UP THE ADDITIONAL.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE THERE? NO QUESTIONS.

I NEED A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

MR. HUNT MAKES A MOTION.

NEED A SECOND? SECOND.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, MAKE A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

OKAY.

WE'RE NOT TRUE.

OH.

OH, WHOA.

THERE'S MORE.

ALL RIGHT.

YOU ME, YOU WANT US TO BUTT ON THIS OR NOT? IT'S ADDED WITH THIS.

IT'S FINANCIAL INFORMATION.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

I THINK THAT'S FIVE.

I CAN'T COUNT ANYMORE WITHOUT A CALCULATOR.

I DON'T THINK THE AUDITOR.

OKAY.

THIS IS YOUR ROAD BOND.

THIS IS A RECONCILI.

NO.

WHAT ARE Y'ALL SAYING? THAT'S A BAD STATEMENT.

SHOULDN'T HAVE SAID I CAN'T COUNT.

YOU SAID YOU CAN'T COUNT YOU SAID WITHOUT A CALCULATOR.

WITHOUT A CALCULATOR.

OKAY, GOTCHA.

I'M GONNA START BRINGING A BAG OF SMARTIES SO WE CAN PASS 'EM AROUND.

.

ANYWAY, WITH THE, THE TWO AGENDA ITEMS THAT ITS PRESENTED THIS MORNING, THIS IS INCLUDED IN THIS CALCULATION.

SO IT SHOWS THAT THE 104 MILLION, YOU'VE SPENT 39 MILLION AND YOU'VE GOT 65 MILLION LEFT.

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NOT ALL OF IT'S PRECINCT.

1, 2, 3 OR FOUR ARE THE JUDGE, IT'S SPLIT OUT.

SO DON'T GET REAL EXCITED .

BUT WE CLEANED UP A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF AND MADE SOME DIFFERENT LINE ITEMS TO, FOR THE OFF ROADS, THE ON ROADS AND WHAT'S DE DISCRETIONARY AND STILL MAY BE LIKE CONSTRUCTION COSTS FOR THE ROADS UNTIL WE HAVE THE ACTUAL PAPERWORK AND DRAW DOWN FROM UM, POLLSTER.

SO THAT SHOWS WHERE WE ARE THERE.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER MOORE, CAN YOU READ REAL GOOD? I'M, UH, OKAY, THANKS.

PASS THIS DOWN.

THIS IS JUST YOUR PRECINCT? YES MA'AM.

SO LET THEM GET THEIRS COUNTY JUDGE WILL HAVE TO MAKE SURE HE GETS THIS COUNTY.

JUDGE PLEASE.

NOW WE GOT SOMETHING STAPLE TOGETHER HERE.

THAT'S THE SAME IN INFORMATION.

IT JUST, WHAT DOES IT SAY? COUNTYWIDE? COUNTYWIDE GOES TO THE COUNTY JUDGE.

OKAY.

PRECINCT TWO AND WARREN NOT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THAT'S THE SAME INFORMATION.

IT'S JUST WHAT YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR ON YOUR, FOR YOUR ROAD PROJECTS.

OKAY.

SO THAT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT'S BEEN SPENT, WHAT'S LEFT AND WHAT YOU GOTTA FINISH.

ALL RIGHT.

SO QUESTION RIGHT FAST, JUST LOOKING AT THIS, IF WE HAVE A ROAD ON HERE THAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE AND WE STILL RETAIN A BALANCE IN THAT LINE ITEM, WE JUST NEED TO MAKE YOUR APPROPRIATE TRANSFER NEED REQUEST FROM I T S YEAH.

TO GET YOUR, TO GET IT TO THE DISCRETIONARY FUND.

YES.

COOL.

ALRIGHT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ARE YOU THROUGH? NO SIR.

OH, I'LL LET YOU KNOW.

I KNOW YOU WILL.

TAKE ONE TO PASS IT THERE.

OKAY.

I'M TAKING IT OUT ON COMMISSIONER MOORE CUZ HE ONLY GAVE ME TWO PEPPERMINTS.

HE'S STILL GOOD TODAY.

GET PEPPERMINTS.

I GOT ALL YOU WANT.

I GOT A WHOLE BAG OVER HERE.

RUNNING NOW.

OH, IT'S OKAY.

I'M JUST PICKING WITH YOU.

OKAY.

THIS IS YOUR AR PA MONEY.

SO IT SHOWS WHERE WE GOT 26 MILLION.

WE'VE SPENT 7.9 MILLION SO FAR AND WE HAVE 18,000,500 LEFT.

I HAVE NOT DONE ONE ON THE FACILITIES BECAUSE WE'RE STILL AUDITING AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING ACCOUNTED FOR.

THESE ARE AUDITED NUMBERS, THEY'RE FOR SURE NUMBERS.

OKAY.

LIKE COMMISSIONER HUNT JUST ASKED IF YOU GOT MONEY HANGING IN ONE OF THEM LINE ITEMS AND YOU KNOW THAT ROAD'S FINISHED.

YOU NEED TO GET TO JOHN POLLSTER AND ASK HIM TO DO ME A FUNDING MEMO THAT Y'ALL APPROVE AND THEN I CAN MOVE THAT MONEY UNTIL I GET THAT I CAN'T MOVE THAT MONEY.

OKAY.

UNDERSTOOD.

MM-HMM.

.

SO A RPA MONEY, WE CAN MOVE AROUND IN HERE IF WE NEED TO.

WE DON'T NEED, ITS TO APPROVE THAT, JUST THE, THE ROAD BOND PART.

AND THANK YOU FOR APPROVING THE BILLS.

AND I'M THROUGH JUDGE.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

OH, REAL QUICK.

THIS, THIS HAS THE, THE FINAL SHEET THAT YOU GAVE US BROKE OUT BY PRECINCT.

THAT'S THE ON SYSTEM AND THE OFF SYSTEM ROADS NUMBERS.

YES SIR.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? UH, OUR AUDITOR, WE'VE ALREADY GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.

WHO MADE IT? WHO MADE IT? IF NOT, WE NEED TO VOTE ONE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANKS FOR DOING THAT.

YES MA'AM.

LET'S HELP.

IT SURE MAKES IT A LOT CLEARER WHEN THEY'RE BROKE OUT.

OKAY, NUMBER HELPS.

YES.

NUMBER

[36. Judge Allen; Discuss/Consider exiting regular meeting and enter into an executive session for the following issues: a) Pursuant to Section 551.076 of the Texas Government Code, for the Kaufman County Sheriff and Criminal District Attorney to address the additional county-wide deployment and implementation of security personnel and devices to prevent, detect, and investigate criminal and violent crime activity; b) Pursuant to Section 551.071 of the Texas Government Code, consultation with attorney, to discuss potential litigation and current pending litigation including, but not limited to: Kaufman County v. Henderson County (Cause No. 21-00150); Fuller Enterprises, et al. v. Howie and Beavers (Cause No. CV06950}; and, Kemp ISO v._ Kaufman County Central Appraisal District, Curtis and Floyd (Cause No. 112559-422}; and c} Pursuant to Sections 551.076 and 551.074 of the Texas Government Code for the Kaufman County Sheriff to address security at the Kaufman County Sheriff's Office and Jail and personnel matters regarding Lori Compton and Billy Jack Valentine]

36, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER EXIT IN REGULAR MEETING ENTERED TO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE FOLLOWING ISSUES.

A PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51 0 7 6, THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE FOR THE CRAWFORD COUNTY SHERIFF AND DISTRICT ATTORNEY TO ADDRESS ADDITIONAL COUNTYWIDE DEPLOYMENT AND INFORMATION OF IMPLEMENTATION OF SECURITY PERSONNEL AND DEVICES TO PREVENT, DETECT AND INVESTIGATE CRIMINAL AND VIOLENT CRIME ACTIVITY B PURSUANT TO THE SAME STATUTE, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY TO DISCUSS POTENTIAL

[01:25:01]

LITIGATION CURRENTLY PENDING INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO KAUFMAN COUNTY VERSUS HENDERSON COUNTY FULLER ENTERPRISES VERSUS HUEY AND BEAVERS AND KEMP ISD VERSUS KAUFMAN COUNTY CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT, CURTIS AND FLOYD.

CASE NUMBER 1 12 5 59 40 22.

AND PURSUANT TO THE SAME STATUTE, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE FOR THE KAUFMAN COUNTY SHERIFF TO ADDRESS SECURITY AT THE COPPA COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN JAIL.

PERSONNEL MATTERS REGARDING LORI COMPTON AND BILLY JACK VALENTINE.

NEED A MOTION PLEASE, SIR? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

MR. PHILLIPS MAKES THE MOTION.

NEED A SECOND? ALL SIR.

MR. BAR, MAKE A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? WE SAY AYE.

AYE.

WE'RE NOW IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

THANK YOU.

LET'S GET LUNCH DOWN.

REALLY GRUMPY LUNCH TIME.

YOU READY MS. LAURA? OKAY.

THANK YOU.

WE

[37. Judge Allen; Discuss/Consider exiting executive session and enter back into a regular meeting.]

[38. Judge Allen; Discuss/Consider taking any action resulting from the executive session.]

ARE BACK IN, UH, LIVE AGAIN AND WE NEED A MOTION TO COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

COMMISSION HUNT MAKES THAT MOTION.

NEED A SECOND? SECOND.

THANK MR. BARBARA.

ALL IN FAVOR? MAY I HAVE? AYE.

AYE.

THERE

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IS NO RESOLUTION COMING OUTTA EXECUTIVE SESSION.

SO NOW THEN I'M MR. PHILLIPS.

YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THIS LONG THING.

THE CHIEF CALLS.

IT'S THE JUDGE'S FAULT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I THINK Y'ALL GOT THE SHORTNESS AND NOW THE LONGEST.