Mar 07, 2023 Commissioners Court

HERE, REGULAR COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING HERE IN THE, UH, COMMISSIONER'S COURTROOM AT THE NX.

IT'S TIME FOR US TO BEGIN THIS MORNING.

WELCOME EVERYONE WHO'S

[Call to Order]

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR INVOCATION AND THE PLEDGES, AND COMMISSIONER MOORE IS GONNA LEAD US OFF IN, UH, COMMISSIONER BARBER, YOU ALL STATE, AND PLEASE.

YES, FRANK MS. RUSHES HOW FATHER LORD, WE JUST THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TODAY TO COME AND SERVE YOU IN THE CAPACITY AS COUNTY GOVERNMENT, LORD.

AND WE JUST ASK THAT YOU'LL BE WITH US AND GUIDE US IN OUR DECISION MAKING.

BE WITH ALL THE PUBLIC, UH, RESPONDERS, OUR PUBLIC SAFETY, BE WITH OUR MILITARY, LORD, BE WITH OUR GOVERNMENT AS THEY MAKE DECISIONS.

AND I JUST ASK THAT, UH, YOU JUST CONTINUE TO BLESS US IN YOUR SON'S HOLY NAME.

AMEN.

PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INVISIBLE LIBERTY, LIBERTY, AND JUSTICE.

FOR ALL, HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD.

ONE.

INVISIBLE.

[1. ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.]

LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK WITH US PLEASE, SIR? FROM THE CITY OF MESQUITE.

WE HAVE, UH, ANYONE HAVE ANY ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE THIS MORNING? IF NOT, THEN WE'RE GOING TO

[2. CONSENT AGENDA]

THE CONSENT AGENDA.

WE HAVE TWO ITEMS THERE, A AND B.

YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE, UH, MINUTES, CONDITIONS, OR ANYTHING? OKAY.

THEN WE'LL MOVE ON.

NUMBER THREE, DISCUSS CONSIDERED PROOF ORDER OF, UH, APPOINTING COMMISSIONERS TO SERVE ON THE BOARD DIRECTORS FOR THE REINVESTMENT ZONE.

NUMBER 13, CITY OF MESQUITE, TEXAS, THE SPRADLING FARMS EDITION.

AND WE HAVE WITH US TODAY, YOU DIDN'T TAKE A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS MADE A MOTION.

I'LL SECOND.

MR. HUM.

MAY 2ND.

ALL IN FAVOR? IS THE AYE.

WE JUST DIDN'T, WE'RE GOOD TRYING TO GET THROUGH HERE.

[3. Judge Allen; Discuss/Consider/Approve order appointing commissioners to serve on Board of Directors for Reinvestment Zone Number Thirteen, City of Mesquite, Texas (Spradley Farms).]

THANK YOU, JUDGE.

MEMBERS OF COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

MY NAME'S TED CHIN WITH THE CITY OF MESQUITE AND I'M JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE IT.

UM, OF COURSE THE CITY COUNCIL CAN'T APOR, UH, CAN'T APPOINT THE BOARD MEMBERS, UH, THEMSELVES.

THE COUNTY HAS TO DESIGNATE TWO REPRESENTATIVES TO SERVE ON THAT BOARD.

IT IS A BINDED MEMBER BOARD.

SEVEN OF THE OTHER MEMBERS ARE THE CITY COUNCIL.

SO DOES ANYONE HERE SERVE ON IT NOW? MR. PHILLIPS? I THINK MIKE DOES.

I THINK KEN, KEN AND MIKE WAS ON IT.

KEN AND MIKE GONNA TAKE PLACE.

WE NEED TO PUT TOMMY.

SO WE NEED TO PUT TOMMY MOORE.

OVER THERE TO APPOINT MR. MOORE.

I'M BY MYSELF ON THAT ONE.

YEAH, YOU'RE BY YOURSELF ON THAT ONE.

SO NOW TOMMY WILL BE ON THERE.

SO, OKAY.

SO IF IT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE COURT, THEN WE NEED NOMINATIONS.

WE GOTTA MAKE A MOTION TO YOU MAKE A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT MYSELF AND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS BE PLACED ON THAT.

COMMISSIONER HUNT.

I'M SORRY.

COMMISSIONER HUNT.

BE PLACED ON THE, UH, IT DOESN'T MATTER.

TURNER'S COMMITTEE OF THE BOARD.

WE GONNA DRAW STRAWS TO YOUR BOYS.

I THOUGHT I GOT, I THOUGHT I GOT OUT.

SECOND.

I'M GOOD.

Y'ALL MAY HAVE A MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER MOORE TO POINT HIMSELF AND COMMISSIONER HUNT TO THE TUR BOARD FOR MESQUITE.

HAVE A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

MR. BARBARA SECOND.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GONNA BE ENTERTAINING.

DID YOU? UH, NO SIR.

WE'RE A REAL EXCITING PLACE TO COME TO.

STICK.

AND, AND HE WOULD LIKE TO MEET WITH US LATER ON WITH THE BOARD AND EVERYTHING.

SO WE'LL SET THAT UP AT EARLIES CONVENIENCE FOR EVERYONE SO WE CAN GET TOGETHER.

BRUCE BYUM, PRESENT UPDATE ON COPA COUNTY CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT.

, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR COMING TODAY.

[4. Bruce Bynum; Present update on Kaufman County Central Appraisal District.]

THANK YOU, JUDGE.

THEIR TAX REVENUE, BUT NOW THEY'RE ALL IN COMPLIANCE AND HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY'S HAPPY .

HOW ARE YOU? DOING GREAT.

UH, BRUCE BYUM, I AM, UH, OCCUPY THE, UH, KAUFMAN, THE, UH, KAUFMAN COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT APPOINTED POSITION TO THE, UH, APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

AND I'M HERE TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON.

UH, SO FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS, EVERY SCHOOL DISTRICT IN THE, IN THE, IN THE COUNTY IS NOW IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE, WHICH PRIOR TO THAT HAD BEEN ABOUT 10 YEARS.

SO, YOU KNOW, SCHOOL DISTRICTS WEREN'T RECEIVING ALL OF

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UM, WHILE YOU OWN THAT, RIGHT.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC WHY THEY WERE OUT OF COMPLIANCE? I MEAN, HOW THE FUNDING, HOW THE FUNDING WORKS FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS ATTACHED TO THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT.

SO THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT HAS A CHIEF APPRAISER AND APPRAISERS FOR RESIDENTIAL, UH, AGRICULTURAL LAND COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS.

AND THEN WE HIRE, UM, APPRAISERS APPRAISAL COMPANIES FOR THINGS LIKE THE RAILROAD AND CELL TOWERS, WHICH YOU, YOU DON'T NEED A BUNCH OF EMPLOYEES FOR THAT CUZ THERE'S NOT THAT MANY RELATIVE, WE, IT'S CHEAPER TO GO HIRE SOMEBODY TO DO IT, I GUESS.

POWER COMPANY, HUH? GUESS THE POWER COMPANY? IN A POWER COMPANY? YEAH.

SO THEY, THE APPRAISERS GO OUT AND APPRAISE THE PROPERTY.

WELL, THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE HAS PEOPLE SITTING IN AUSTIN VALUING EVERY PROPERTY IN THE WHOLE STATE.

AND WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO PRESENTING THE, THE KAUFMAN COUNTY APPRAISED VALUE OF THE TAX ROLL TO THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE, THEY GIVE YOU 5% BELOW OR 5% ABOVE.

THERE'S A 10% VARIANCE, UM, FROM THE, FROM THE COUNTY'S VALUE TO THEIR VALUE.

AND IF YOU'RE OUTSIDE OF THAT, YOU, YOU GET A CHANCE TO DISCUSS IT WITH THEM.

BUT IF, IF, IF IT JUST REMAINS A DIFFERENCE, THEN, UM, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, THEY GET A CHANCE TO PROTEST IT.

EVERYBODY STILL PAYS THE SAME TAXES THEY DID THE YEAR BEFORE, BUT UNTIL THAT NEW VALUE GETS SETTLED, THEY DON'T, THEY JUST HAVE TO PAY THE PREVIOUS YEAR'S TAXES.

AND IF IT DOESN'T GET SETTLED WITHIN TWO YEARS, THEN THEY'RE OUTTA COMPLIANCE WITH A COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE AND THEY'RE NOT RECEIVING THE, THE TAX REVENUE THAT THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE SAYS THEY SHOULD.

SO IT GETS REVALUED, UH, MOST OF THE TIME.

UM, THEY COME TO AN AGREEMENT ON WHAT THE VALUE SHOULD BE, EITHER BY, UH, UM, APPRAISED VALUES, EVIDENCE, LAWSUITS, PROTEST THE VALUE.

SO IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, THE, UM, APPRAISAL DISTRICT HAS COMPLIED WITH THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE.

SO ALL THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND TAXING ENTITIES, FIRE DEPARTMENTS ARE GETTING THEIR PROPER SHARE OF THE TAX REVENUE.

EVEN THOUGH VALUES HAVE GONE UP DRASTICALLY, UH, THEY ARE KEEPING UP WITH THE MARKET, WHICH IS A GOOD THING.

SO DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YEAH, YEAH.

BASICALLY, I GUESS IF YOU WANNA SIMPLIFY, JUST SAID THE STATE, YOU MADE OUR VALUES OR WE HOLD YOUR HOSTAGE AND NOT FROM THE SCHOOL.

I WASN'T GONNA SAY IT THAT WAY.

SO WHAT'S SAD IS THAT IT'S A REDUNDANT PROCESS BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING IT TOO.

WHY DON'T WE HAVE TWO, YOU KNOW, GET YOUR BUREAUCRACY.

THERE YOU GO.

WELL, HISTORICALLY APPRAISAL DISTRICTS DIDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO, UH, MLS.

WELL, WE, AS AN, AS AN APPRAISAL DISTRICT, WE STILL DON'T, BUT WE HIRE A COMPANY THAT DOES THAT PROVIDES US THE INFORMATION.

SO NOW YOU GET AN ACCURATE, UH, COMPARISON OF, OF PROPERTIES, SIMILAR PROPERTIES.

SO THAT'S HOW THAT'S DONE.

WOULD IT BE LESS EXPENSIVE TO HIRE OWN PEOPLE THAN VERSUS NO.

THE, UH, THAT BE A WHOLE ANOTHER BUILDING AND THE, JUST THE COST OF THE INSURANCE FOR ONE EMPLOYEE IS MORE THAN THE VALUATION.

THE, THE CHARGE FOR THE VALUATION FOR ONE PROPERTY.

VERY GOOD.

SO IT'S, IT'S MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE TO HAVE.

BUT SPEAKING OF EMPLOYEES, SO THE, THE STANDARD IS FOR EVERY 10,000, FOR EVERY 10,000 TAXING UNITS, HOUSES, BUSINESSES, BROKEN UP PROPERTY, IT REQUIRES ONE APPRAISER AND ONE STAFF PERSON.

AND WE'VE HAD TROUBLE HIRING AND MAINTAINING QUALIFIED APPRAISERS.

KAUFMAN COUNTY SEEMS TO BE THE STEPPING STONE FOR APPRAISERS.

THEY TRAIN HERE AND GO ELSEWHERE.

SO WE'RE FULLY STAFFED NOW, BOTH APPRAISERS AND SUPPORT STAFF AND THE MAPPING DEPARTMENT.

UM, BUT WE'RE OUTTA ROOM COMPLETELY OUTTA ROOM.

UH, THERE'S PEOPLE SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER.

SO WE'RE IN ABOUT 9,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING RIGHT NOW.

AND EVENTUALLY WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A NEW BUILDING, WHICH THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT'S GONNA PARTICIPATE IN APPROVING OR DECLINE IN THAT, ALONG WITH THE, UH, SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS TAXING

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UNITS.

SO IT'S GONNA BE EXPENSIVE, BUT, UM, OF COURSE THE LAND THAT THE BUIL THE COMMISSION OR THE COUNTY OWNS THE LAND WHERE THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT BUILDING SITS AND THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT OWNS THAT BUILDING.

COUNTY OWNS THE LAND.

BUT IF, IF, AND WHEN WE MOVE OUT, IT BECOMES THE COUNTIES ANYWAY, THE BUILDING DOES.

SO THERE'S TRADE OFF THERE.

WHAT'S YOUR TARGET FOR A BUILDING MOVE OUT NEXT WEEK SO THAT WE HAVE ELECTION TO PLAY? YEAH, WELL TIMEFRAME YESTERDAY.

UM, WELL IT'S A, IT'S A VERY LONG, CUMBERSOME PROCESS.

UM, YOU CAN'T JUST GO OUT AND BUY THE LAND AND THEN GET THE TAXING ENTITIES TO APPROVE A BUILDING, WHICH IS GONNA BE ABOUT $6 MILLION.

IT ALL HAS TO BE APPROVED.

CUZ IF YOU BUY THE LAND AND THEY DON'T APPROVE THE BUILDING, YOU'VE WASTED YOUR MONEY.

SO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, KAUFMAN COUNTY, OR KAUFMAN I S D HAS AGREED TO SELL US SIX ACRES OUT ON 2 43 WHERE THEY HAVE ALL THAT PROPERTY, UM, FOR $400,000 FOR WHAT THEY PAID FOR IT.

CUZ IT'S NOT ON A TAX ROLL NOW, AND IT WON'T BE ON A TAX ROLL LATER.

UH, THE BIG ISSUE IS, UM, WE HAVE TO GET THE UTILITIES FROM 2 43 DOWN TO THAT PROPERTY, AND IT'S IN THE BACK OF, OF THE BIG TRACK.

SO THAT'LL COST MORE THAN THE LAND THEN THAT'S, THAT'S ANOTHER $4,000.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S ALL PART OF IT, BUT IT'S WHAT IT TAKES.

AND THAT'S A CENTRALIZED LOCATION.

IT'S GOOD INGRESS AND EGRESS FOR THE PUBLIC.

UM, SO, UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME ABOUT THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT? I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I WANTED TO TELL YOU, I WORKED REALLY CLOSE WITH SARAH CURTIS AND SHE'S AWESOME.

SHE'S HELPED ME AND I HELPED HER ON INVESTING AND, UM, I SENT HER ALL MY PAPERWORK BECAUSE I WANTED TO PROVE WE WEREN'T AT A 22% INCREASE IN OUR PROPERTY VALUES AND ALL MY CALCULATIONS WERE RIGHT.

WE ACTUALLY LOWERED OUR TAX RATE.

SO I WANT TO THANK HER AND TELL YOU TO LET HER KNOW HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE HER HELP.

I WILL DO THAT.

YEAH, SHE'S UH, SHE'S VERY GOOD.

UH, UH, SHE KNOWS WHAT THE LAW IS ABOUT, WHAT SHE DOES, AND SHE STICKS WITH IT AND DOESN'T BEND FROM IT UNLESS SHE'S THE IT DOES COURT SAYS SO, SO SHE'S REALLY GOOD AT IT, EVEN THOUGH SHE'S TAKEN A LOT OF HEAT FOR THE INCREASE IN THE VALUES THAT SHE DIDN'T CREATE IT, THE MARKET DID.

WHAT HER WORK IS REFLECTING THAT.

BUT SPEAKING OF THE MONEY, UM, YEAH, THE, I'M ON THE INVESTMENT COMMITTEE FOR THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT AND ONE OF OUR NEW POLICIES HAS BEEN THAT WE'LL INVEST THE MONEY BUT AT NO RISK TO THE PRINCIPAL TO THE PUBLIC'S MONEY.

TAXPAYER'S MONEY.

THERE'S NO RISK TO, OF COURSE THE MARKET INTEREST RATE GOES UP AND DOWN, BUT, UH, WE HAVE A DEPOSIT CONTRACT WITH AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK HERE IN KAUFMAN, AND CDS ARE AS SAFE AS THEY COME.

SO THAT, AND WE'VE GOT AN INVESTED WITH THEM.

SO WE, WE ARE ALLOWED TO GO TO TAX POOL LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE IS.

UH, THEY ARE PAYING A HIGHER RATE TODAY THAN WHAT WE HAVE ON OUR CD, BUT THE MATURITY IS NOT TILL NEXT YEAR, SO.

WE'RE JUST STUCK WITH THAT.

I JUST TOLD 'EM TO MAKE SURE Y'ALL LOOK AT YOUR REPOSITORY CONTRACT SO IT WOULDN'T WIND UP COSTING MONEY.

, WELL, NOT AS UPDATED.

UH, YES.

WELL, AMERICAN NATIONAL DOES NOT CHARGE US ANY FEES FOR CHECKS OR ACH OR WIRES OR WHATEVER.

AND THEY PAY US A, A REASONABLE FEE ON OUR DEPOSITS.

ALL A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE DEPOSITS.

NOT JUST AN INVESTMENT ACCOUNT, BUT THE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE DEPOSITS AND IT'S CLOSE TO THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT BUILDING.

I WORK FOR CITIBANK IN FORNEY.

UM, WE MADE A BID FOR IT.

WE GOT A RELATIONSHIP WITH 'EM.

IT'S ALWAYS BEEN GOOD.

, SO WE MIGHT AS WELL STAY THERE.

AND THEY WERE OFFERING THE SAME CD RATES AS ANYBODY ELSE, SO IT REALLY DIDN'T MATTER.

SO SAME DOLLAR'S, THE SAME NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO, IF IT'S THE SAME DOLLAR, IT'S THE SAME DOLLAR 0.45% INTEREST RATE IS THE SAME NO MATTER WHERE YOU GET IT.

NO.

NO MATTER WHERE YOU GO.

AND FEES AND OTHER THINGS, WHICH THEY VOID OUT ON.

EXCEPT WHEN IT COMES TO CHARGING YOU FOR CHECKS

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THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY GRACIOUS.

BRUCE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK APPRAISAL DISTRICT DOES A GOOD JOB.

ENJOY WORKING WITH THEM.

THANK YOU FOR EMPLOYING.

YOU BET.

THANK YOU FOR COMING, BRUCE.

APPRECIATE IT.

GONNA DISCUSS WITH THEM ABOUT WE HAVE YES.

IN THE DRONE.

UHHUH .

[5. Commissioner Hunt; Discuss/consider the request of Cedar Crest Development for a Temporary Construction Easement on the County Showgrounds.]

NEXT IS NUMBER FIVE.

COMMISSIONER HUNT, DISCUSS, CONSIDER THE REQUEST FOR CEDAR CCRS DEVELOPMENT FOR TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT ON THE COUNTY SHOW GROUNDS PROPERTY.

UM, WE, WE WERE, CEDAR CREST REACHED OUT TO US AND THEY'RE WANTING TO PUT AN, UH, EASEMENT TO DO THE CONSTRUCTION ON THEIR PROPERTY AND JUST BE ABLE TO DRIVE THE EQUIPMENT ON OUR PROPERTY ON EASEMENT TO DO ALL THE WORK THEY NEED TO DO ON THEIR PROPERTY.

PRETTY MUCH IT.

WOULD YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF PLEASE? HI, I'M TYLER ADAMS. I'M THE, UH, PROGRAM MANAGER.

SO I KIND OF HIRE THE DESIGN TEAM AND THE, AND THE CONTRACTORS TO GET THE WORK DONE.

UH, AND, AND YEAH, UH, WE WE'RE BASICALLY ASKING FOR 30 FEET ON ONE PROPERTY LINE AND ABOUT, YOU KNOW, 40 TO 30 FEET ON, ON THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE TO A, DO OUR GRADING, UH, B JUST TO FIX AND DIVERT SOME, SOME WATER THAT COMES FROM THE COUNTY SITE, UM, TO A, TO AN INLAND THAT WILL PUMP UNDERWATER.

UH, AND THEN, AND THEN IT'LL DISCHARGE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF OUR PROPERTY.

UM, AND THEN ALONG THE NORTH, UM, THERE'S JUST SOME GRADING ISSUES AND SOME OTHER THINGS WITH THE EXISTING FORCE MAIN AND ALL THAT THAT'S GONNA REQUIRE US TO DO SOME GRADING ON, ON THAT PART OF THE PROPERTY.

UM, RIGHT.

THE EASEMENT THAT WE PUT IN FRONT OF YOU IS JUST KIND OF A TEMPORARY THING.

SO WE CAN DO THAT, DO THAT WORK, YOU KNOW, WE'VE PLEDGED TO CLEAN IT UP, GET IT DONE DRAIN CORRECTLY.

AND THEN, AND THEN BE DONE WITH IT.

OF COURSE, THE, THE BIG HITCH WAS ACTUALLY KNOWING WHERE THE LINE IS AND, UH, I CAN'T SAY F SHAMS NAME, BUT OH, OH OH, THE PHEROS, THAT'S HIS NAME.

PHEROS PHEROS SHAMS, YOU KNOW, NOTIFIED US THAT WHAT THEY HAD ORIGINALLY BROUGHT TO US WAS NOT CORRECT.

AND TYLER MET US OUT THERE AND THE JUDGE WAS OUT THE FAIRGROUNDS TOO.

AND HE, WE DIDN'T HAVE STAKES TO ACTUALLY, OR WE COULDN'T FIND STAKES.

WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE PROPERTY LINE IS, BUT YOU HAVE A REASONABLY GOOD IDEA AND HE TOOK THE DRONE UP AND THE PICTURE THAT'S SITTING BEFORE Y'ALL IS HIS ESTIMATION OF WHERE THE LINE WOULD BE.

AND, UH, THE EMAIL IS FROM FARROW SAYING THAT THE PROPERTY LINE WAS NOT WHERE THE ORIGINAL PICTURE THEY BROUGHT TO US.

YES, CORRECT.

CORRECT.

SO, SO THE NICE THING ABOUT WHERE THAT, WHERE THE PROPERTY LINE IS, THERE ARE TWO POWER POLES THAT YOU CAN SEE CLEARLY IN THE RIGHT, UH, IN THE IMAGE.

AND THAT'S THE, THE PEN IS SUPPOSEDLY SOMEWHERE UNDERGROUND RIGHT THERE.

SO, SO WE WERE ABLE TO KIND OF FIGURE THAT OUT FROM THE FIELD AND DETERMINE WHERE THAT PROPERTY LINE IS.

AT SOME POINT WILL WE GET A, A, UH, SURVEY OF THIS SO WE'LL KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE LINES ARE? CERTAINLY, YEAH.

I MEAN WE, I MEAN ALL THAT STUFF WILL BE FLAGGED BEFORE WE, WE DO IT AND IT'LL BE DOWN TO THE, DOWN TO THE END.

IT'LL BE A BIG CONCRETE WALL WHEN IT GETS DONE THERE.

, ALL WE'RE DOING IS SOME GRADING, NO CONCRETE WALLS .

BUT I GUESS, AND, AND YOU GOT THE FIR WITNESS FIRSTHAND SOME OF OUR CONCERNS ABOUT HOW BIG THE, THE SHOW GROUNDS AND HOW, HOW MANY PEOPLE COME OUT THERE WITH TRAILERS.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

AND THAT WAS AN OFF DAY THAT YOU WERE THERE.

THAT WASN'T THE BIG DAY.

SO, YOU KNOW, SO YOU, YOU UNDERSTAND WHY OUR CONCERN WAS SURE.

PROPERTY LINE WAS AT AND HOW THE WAY WE USED THE PROPERTIES.

BUT I APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT THAT DAY TO KIND OF CLEAR THINGS UP.

YEAH, RIGHT.

AND, AND SO KIND OF, WE STARTED WITH THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT THAT WOULD BE MORE PERMANENT, BUT WITH THE CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT, WE DO THE WORK WE GET OUTTA YOUR WAY AND THEN YOU GUYS CAN IMPROVE IT HOWEVER YOU NEED TO LATER ON AND GET THAT DRAINAGE TO, TO, TO WORK WHETHER IT'S UNDERGROUND AND YOU PARK OVER IT OR WHATEVER IT IS.

ALRIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO.

IF NOT, YOU NEED A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GRANT THE EASEMENT FOR, UM, CEDAR CCRS DEVELOPMENT SECOND MOTION.

MR. PHILLIPS MAY 2ND.

MS. TANDY TANYA SMITH IS GONNA DISCUSS, CONSIDER ORDER CALLING SPECIAL ELECTION FROM MAY THE SIXTH, 2023 FOR THE CITY OF GRAS PRAIRIE PURSUANT TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 24.026 TO FILL FIVE UP TO FIVE VACANT CITY COUNCIL POSITIONS.

COULD YOU SAY PHILLIPS SECOND? YES,

[6. Tandi Smith; Discuss/Consider order calling special election on May 6, 2023 for the City of Grays Prairie pursuant to Texas Local Government Code Section 24.026 to fill up to five vacant City Council positions.]

YES, MA'AM.

IN THEIR NOVEMBER ELECTION.

ARE WE CONTACTED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF GRACE PRAIRIE? HIS COUNCIL TERMS ALL EXPIRED AS THEY RECEIVE NO APPLICATIONS FOR COUNCILMEN

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THEY CAN'T CONTINUE TO CONDUCT BUSINESS THAT IS REQUIRED UNTIL THIS NOVEMBER.

SO THEY'VE REQUESTED THAT WE CALL THIS SPECIAL ELECTION.

DID THEY ALL JUST RESIGN OR DON'T KNOW? NO, SIR.

THERE WERE EXISTING COUNCILMEN THAT HAD A TERM THROUGH, I BELIEVE IT WAS DECEMBER 31ST OF THIS YEAR BEFORE THEIR NEW TERM STARTED.

HOWEVER, DURING THAT ELECTION, THEY ONLY RECEIVED AN APPLICATION FOR MAYOR.

THEY RECEIVED NO CANDIDATE APPLICATIONS FOR THEIR COUNCIL.

SO THEIR CURRENT COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE BEEN STANDING IN DOING AN EXISTING BUSINESS TRYING TO FILL HOLES.

MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE MAYOR IS THAT ONE INDIVIDUAL WHO WAS WILLING TO DO THAT IS IN THE PROCESS OF SELLING HIS PROPERTY.

AND THE OTHER INDIVIDUALS NO LONGER WANT TO DO THIS.

THEIR TERMS ARE EXPIRED.

THEY CAN'T, THEY CAN'T APPOINT? NO SIR.

TOO MANY PEOPLE.

HUH? TOO MANY, TOO MANY, TOO MANY VACANCIES.

TOO MANY VACANCIES.

IT'S FIVE VACANCIES.

WOW.

SO IT FALLS ON THE COURT TO CALL THE SPECIAL ELECTION.

WELL, I MEAN, I, I GUESS I, I, I GUESS I'M NOT, I DON'T UNDERSTAND GOVERNMENT ON THIS, BUT IF THERE ARE NO ELECTED OFFICIALS OTHER THAN THE MAYOR AND, AND, BUT OTHER PEOPLE ARE, ARE ACTUALLY GONNA BE ON THE BALLOT FOR THIS SPECIAL ELECTION, WE WILL NOT KNOW THAT BECAUSE UNTIL THE ELECTION IS ORDERED, THEY CANNOT ACCEPT CANDIDATE APPLICATIONS.

AND THE APPLICATION PERIOD WOULD NOT END UNTIL MARCH 27TH.

SO IS THEY MIGHT NOT GET ANY.

WELL, SO, BUT IF NOBODY DOES, THEN DOES THE STATE STEP IN AND AND IS IT CALLED A CHARTER FOR AN INCORPORATED AREA OR, SO AS IT STANDS, THE STATE WILL NOT GIVE US ANY GUIDANCE ON THAT UNTIL THE FOLLOWING PERIOD ENDS.

WOW.

WELL WHO'S THAT? AND, AND I SPOKE TO THE MAYOR THE OTHER DAY AND HE'S HOPING TO GET, HE IS OUT STILL BEFORE TO HIS COMMUNITY IN AN EFFORT TO GET PEOPLE TO APPLY FOR THESE VACANCIES.

BUT AGAIN, THAT IS NOT GUARANTEED.

IF, IF, IF THEY HAVE NO OPPONENTS, THEN THEY ALL SIGNED UP.

IS THERE? NO, THEN THE ELECTION WOULD BE CANCELED AND THOSE CANDIDATES DECLARED ELECTIVES.

SO THERE IS A GOOD POSSIBILITY OF THAT.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING.

THAT'S WHY WE WON'T HAVE TO HAVE THE ELECTION.

I SAID CAUSE THERE WOULDN'T BE A POINT TO HAVE AN ELECTION, RIGHT? CORRECT.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE KIND OF HOPING FOR.

AN EARTH THAT HE'S HOPING FOR IS THAT ONCE THIS CANDIDATE FILING PERIOD OPENS WITH THE ORDERING OF AN ELECTION, THAT HE'LL RECEIVE FIVE APPLICATIONS AND BE ABLE TO CANCEL HIS ELECTION AND DECLARE THOSE CANDIDATES AS ELECTION.

WE'RE JUST PREPARING IN CASE THEY DO.

THAT'S ALL WE'RE DOING.

AND IF WE HAVE A SPECIAL ELECTION, MY OTHER QUESTION IS, WE DON'T HAVE TO OPEN UP EVERY SENATOR IN THE COUNTY.

THIS ELECTION IS GOING TO BE A STANDALONE ELECTION IN THE CITY OF GRACE PRAIRIE.

UM, WE ARE CURRENTLY, WE'VE ALREADY CONTRACTED FOR OUR JOINT ELECTION IN MAY.

WE HAVE 19 ENTITIES ON THAT BALLOT.

MY MILITARY MAIL HAS TO GO OUT ON MARCH 22ND.

HIS FILING PERIOD WILL NOT UNTIL MAY, UH, MARCH 27TH, WHICH IS AFTER MY DEADLINE.

SO HIS ONLY OPTION IS A SPECIAL THAT, THAT SATISFIES MY QUESTIONS.

NOW WE NEED A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

MR. MOORE MAKES THE MOTION TO YOU A SECOND.

NO, SECOND.

MR. MOORE MAKES A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR WITH SAY AYE.

TANY AGAIN ON NUMBER SEVEN, DISCUSS, CONSIDER RECOGNIZING COMPLIANCE WITH SECTION 42.031 OF THE TEXAS ELECTION CODE.

THANK YOU

[7. Tandi Smith; Discuss/Consider recognizing compliance with Section 42.031 of the Texas Election Code.]

CORRECT.

42 42 0 3 1 SITES THAT DURING ODD NUMBERED YEARS IN MARCH OR APRIL, COMMISSIONER'S COURT SHALL DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE COUNTY ELECTION PRECINCTS COMPLY WITH SECTIONS 4205 6 AND 4,207 OF THE TEXAS ELECTION CODE.

UM, I SENT YOU GENTLEMEN SOME INFORMATION ON THAT LAST WEEK AS WELL AS THE CHART IDENTIFYING THE PRECINCTS.

ALL OUR CURRENT PRECINCTS, SINCE WE DID JUST GO THROUGH REDISTRICTING, ARE UNDER 5,000 POPULATION AT THIS TIME.

IF THERE WERE FOUR THAT I NOTATED THAT WE'LL NEED TO WATCH AS WE GET TOWARDS 2025 AND HAVE TO REEVALUATE AGAIN, BUT AS IT STANDS, WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE.

SO THIS IS JUST TO RECOGNIZE THAT COMPLIANCE AND SHOW THAT I DID PRESENT YOU WITH THAT INFORMATION.

OKAY? MM-HMM.

, ANY QUESTIONS? NOPE.

NO.

I NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

MR. PHELPS MAKES THE MOTION.

NEED A SECOND? NO, SECOND QUESTION.

ONE SECOND.

MR. DOEN CANTRELL, DISCUSS, CONSIDER AND APPROVED FEDERAL AND STATE AGREEMENTS WITH THE LOWER EAST FAR LATERAL SITES.

[8. Owen Cantrell; Discuss/Consider/Approve federal and state agreements for Lower East Fork Laterals Site 10 dam rehabilitation.]

10 DAM REHABILITATION.

MORNING, MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.

I'M, I'M BACK AGAIN.

THIS IS, UH, JUST ONE MORE STEP IN THIS PROCESS FOR

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THE REHAB OF, UH, LOWER EAST FOR 10.

THAT'S IN THE WARSAW COMMUNITY.

UH, WHAT WE HAVE TODAY IS THE, UH, CORPORATE AGREEMENT FOR DISTRIBUTION OF STATE FUNDS AND ALSO FOR FEDERAL FUNDS.

UM, BASICALLY I I DO NOT, I'M NOT A LAWYER AND A LOT OF THIS I CAN READ IT AND I STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M READING.

SO I DON'T KNOW.

HAVE YOU HAD THE, THE CHANCE TO REVIEW THESE OR IS THAT KAREN, THAT KAREN'S REVIEWED IT.

KAREN REVIEWED IT AS FAR AS I KNOW THAT SHE HAD ONE QUESTION THAT SHE PROPOSED TO OUR, UH, STATE BOARD STATE SOIL WATER CONSERVATION BOARD.

AND HE ANSWERED THAT TO HER SATISFACTION.

AS FAR AS I KNOW, THERE WAS NOT ANY, ANY MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.

UH, THE STATE FUNDS ARE 4,354,000.

FEDERAL FUNDS ARE 8,236,000.

BUT, AND SOME MORE DOLLARS ON THAT .

BUT THAT'S ROUND, KIND OF ROUND FIGURES.

UH, IT'S GONNA BE A, THE TOTAL PROJECT, $12,590,722.

AND OF THAT, UH, COUNTY PORTION IS ZERO.

THE ONLY THING THE COUNTY WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR WILL BE THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE CONTRACT, UM, AS FAR AS GOING OUT IN, UH, SOLICITING BIDS, UH, AND THEN THEN OVERSEEING THE PAYMENTS, WHICH I THINK, JACK, I THINK Y'ALL HAD TO APPOINT SOMEBODY AND I PROBABLY WOULD BE JACK TO DO THAT.

OTHER THAN ADMINISTRATIVE.

CAUSE HE'S CURRENTLY DOING THAT ON ANOTHER PROJECT THAT'S, IT'S JUST A STATE PRO.

STATE ONE.

THIS ONE WOULD BE FEDERAL AND STATE, BUT THE, THE PROCEDURES IS BASICALLY THE SAME ON BOTH OF 'EM.

WELL, THE GOOD THING IS IT'S BEING DONE.

IT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

NEEDS TO BE DONE.

THIS HAS BEEN A AND THE COUNTY'S NOT HAVING TO PUT ANY MONEY INTO IT.

CORRECT.

UH, AND I THINK, YEAH, THIS ADMINISTRATIVE FEES, WHICH I TALKED TO STEVE YESTERDAY, SAID THAT'D BE REIMBURSED.

THERE ARE ADMINISTRATION FEES.

IT'LL COME BACK.

SO ACTUALLY THE COUNTY WILL BE ZERO DOUBT.

THAT'S GOOD.

THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN VERY OFTEN.

NO.

NO, THAT'S A, THAT'S A GOOD PRICE.

YEAH, IT IS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. OWEN? IF NOW I NEED A MOTION, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

MR. MOORE MADE THE MOTION.

NEED A SECOND? SECOND, MR. BARBER.

EDWARD STEPS THE SHERIFF'S MONTHLY OF REPORT FOR JANUARY 23.

YOU WORK NUMBER NINE IS SHERIFF BS.

YOU AND I QUIET.

YOU DON'T HAVE A HAT EITHER.

SO MORNING JUDGE.

MORNING IS

[9. Sheriff Beavers; Present/Accept the Sheriff's Office monthly report for January 2023.]

UH, I BELIEVE Y'ALL HAVE THE REPORT IN FRONT OF YOU.

WE DO.

COUPLE THINGS I WANNA BRING TO Y'ALL'S ATTENTION.

FIRST, UH, JUST ONE CORRECTION ON THE COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLE CONTACTS.

IF YOU LOOK TO THE FAR RAT SIDE, YEAR TO DATE, 2023.

ONE OF THE NUMBERS TRANSPOSED FROM 2022 ALL THE WAY OVER TO 2023.

IT SHOULD BE 53 INSTEAD OF 73.

UH, ALSO ON THE COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLE ENFORCEMENT, WE'VE SENT OUR COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLE.

WE HAD TWO NEW GUYS COME IN.

SO THEY'VE BEEN IN, UH, GETTING LICENSED DOWN IN AUSTIN.

SO YOU'RE GONNA SEE A KIND OF A DROP IN THAT SPRING.

THAT TO Y'ALL'S ATTENTION.

ALSO ON THE CANINE DIVISION, IF YOU LOOK OVER THERE ON IT, BOTH OUR CANINES WAS RETIRED.

WE DID BRING IN A NEW CANINE OFFICER AND WE GOT TWO NEW DOGS.

SO THEY'VE BEEN IN TRAINING FROM THE 1ST OF JANUARY TILL NOW.

SO THEY STARTED IN FEBRUARY WORKING AGAIN.

SO, OKAY.

YOU'LL SEE FEBRUARY UPTICK START UP, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL DIVISION THAT NOW IS ON THE DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES.

SO YOU SEE A ZERO ON IT.

AND ALSO ON THE, UH, ANIMAL CONTROL THAT SWITCHED OVER TO THE FIRE MARSHAL.

SO YOU SEE A ZERO ON THAT.

RIGHT? AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING I HAD ON THOSE.

IT LOOKS LIKE YOU BROUGHT IN $50,312 AND 60 CENTS.

AGAIN, DISCUSS, CONSIDERED APPROVING THE ADOPTION OF K NINE COP GRANT FOR THE AMOUNT OF $7,500 FOR A NEW K9

ANY QUESTIONS? NOW I NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

MR. PHELPS MAKES A MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND, MR. HUNT MAKES A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

[10. Sheriff Beavers; Discuss/Consider approving the Adopt a K 9 COP Grant for the amount of $7,500.00 for a new K-9 for the Sheriff's Office.]

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FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

WHEN WE PURCHASED OUR DOGS, WE SPENT $15,000 OUT OF OUR ASSET FORFEITURE FUND TO PURCHASE THESE DOGS.

SO IT DIDN'T COME FROM ANY MONEY FROM THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTY.

THIS IS ALL PAID FOR BY ASSET FORFEITURE.

WE ALSO APPLIED FOR A GRANT FROM THE, UH, US P C A AKC REUNITE KINE PROGRAM.

THEY HAVE AWARDED US A $7,500 CHECK TO REIMBURSE US FOR HALF OF THIS.

DO.

SO WHAT THIS IS, IS THEY CAN ONLY MAKE THE CHECK OUT TO KAUFMAN COUNTY.

THAT'S ON OUR W NINE FORM.

SO WE'RE ASKING THAT ONCE WE RECEIVE THIS CHECK, DID IT GET REDDE DEPOSITED INTO ASSET FORFEITURE WHERE THESE FUNDS ORIGINALLY CAME FROM? OKAY.

I DO HAVE THE CHECK HERE IN MY HAND.

SO, ALL RIGHT.

NEED A MOTION TO DO THAT AND WE'LL GIVE IT TO MS. KAREN? YEAH.

WE'LL GET IT CODED CORRECTLY.

NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

MR. PHILLIPS MAKE A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION MR. TO MAKE A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

MOTION.

CARRIE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANKS, JUDGE.

NUMBER 11, CONSTABLE MAYFIELD.

COMMISSIONERS.

[11. Constable Mayfield; Present/Accept the Kaufman County Pet. 1 Constable's office racial profiling report.]

PRESENT AND ACCEPT HIS REPORT FOR RACIAL PROFILING.

DISCUSS CONSIDER POLICY FOR PASTURE AND TRUCK TIRE PRODUCTS.

I'M HERE THIS MORNING TO SUBMIT THE PRECINCT ONE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE 2022 RACIAL PROFILING REPORT, WHICH IS IN THE BLUE FOLDER THAT I PROVIDED.

UM, MY OFFICE CONDUCTED 739 TRAFFIC STOPS WITH ZERO COMPLAINTS.

YOU DID REAL GOOD.

THAT'S 10 YEARS, BUT WE'VE NOT HAD ONE COMPLAINT FILED.

WELL, YOU'RE DOING A GOOD JOB.

THANK YOU, MR. IT'S APPRECIATED.

AIN'T LEARNED HOW TO LEAVE THE PHONE OFF THE HOOK.

YOU'RE RIGHT.

ANY, ANY QUESTIONS FOR CONSTABLE? NO.

GOOD JOB.

IF NOT, NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT, THEN I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO ACCEPT.

MR. TRUMP MAKES THE MOTION.

NEED A SECOND? SECOND.

SECOND.

MR. PHELPS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

[12. Jack Sebastian; Discuss/Consider policy for passenger and truck tire purchases.]

GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN.

JUST KIND OF WANT TO GIVE YOU GUYS ON THE SITUATION ON TIRES.

UM, AS YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SPEND OVER $50,000 A YEAR, YOU'RE REQUIRED TO, UH, PUT THOSE OUT TO BID.

UH, THERE'S TWO OPTIONS AND THAT WOULD BE TO LIST EVERY SIZE TIRE WE HAVE AND, UH, PUT OUT A BID.

AND THEN WHEN YOU DO, YOU NEVER KNOW WHERE THAT SUPPLIER MIGHT BE.

UH, THE BEST OPTION COURSE IS TO PURCHASE OUT STATE CONTRACT, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE DOING WHEN, WHEN WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO, YOU KNOW, THE TIMEFRAME.

SO WHAT I WANT TO DO IS, I KNOW MAYBE Y'ALL, SOME OF Y'ALL HAVE EXPERIENCES IN THE PAST, BUT, UH, ONE METHOD IS TO HAVE THE STATE VENDOR DELIVER TIRES AND WE HAVE 'EM INSTALLED.

UH, I KNOW THAT'S KIND OF A PAIN.

UH, WHAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT DOING IS REACHING OUT TO EACH PRECINCT AND, AND CONTACTING THE LOCAL TIRE SHOP AND ASKING THEM, UH, I KNOW IN YOUR PRECINCT, FOR INSTANCE, HARVEY'S HAS DONE THAT IN THE PAST WITHOUT A PROBLEM.

AND JUST FIND SOMEONE THAT WOULD AGREE TO RECEIVE THESE TIRES AND THEN GIVE US A PRICE, YOU KNOW, UH, INSTALL IT ON PASTURE TIRES, TRUCK TIRES, WHATEVER, AND PROCEED THAT WAY.

BUT I WOULD TRY TO GET SOMEONE CONVENIENT TO YOU GUYS, UH, TO DO THAT.

WHERE'D YOU CALL ME, GUYS? UM, MY, MY ONLY QUESTION IS WHEN WE HAVE A BLOWOUT, I WANT THE TRUCK BACK ON THE ROAD AND I DON'T WANNA WAIT FULLY UNDERSTAND ON, ON MY SOMEBODY TO COME IN AND BRING A TIRE THAT'S GONNA TAKE TWO OR THREE DAYS.

I MEAN, IF WE CAN GO GET THE TIRE ON AND BACK ON THE ROAD.

I FULLY UNDERSTAND THE MURDER SITUATION.

YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S, THAT IS THE EXCEPTION, OBVIOUSLY, UH, SITUATION NOW IS, IS, UH, THAT I'M SEEING, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU CUZ IT'S, WE'RE SEEING ABOUT A SET OF TIRES, UH, A WEEK AND I'M KIND OF, IT'S, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOUR, YOUR PERSONAL VEHICLE, YOU KIND OF MONITOR YOUR TIRE SITUATION, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO BUY TIRES FOR YOUR CARS.

BUT WHAT I'M SAYING, UH, IN, IN OUR OFFICE WILL GET A CALL THAT MORNING AND THEY'VE GOT US TO HAVE A SET OF FOUR TIRES.

SO IT'S GONNA REQUIRE SOME PLANNING, UH, TO MAKE US WORK.

BUT THIS, I'M JUST FOLLOWING THE LAW GENTLEMEN.

THIS, YOU KNOW THIS SURE.

THIS IS, UH, NOW THE PASSENGER TIRES THEY'RE TAKING CARE OF WITH THE ENTERPRISE CONTRACT.

THAT THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S VERY MISLEADING.

UH, YOU CAN TAKE YOUR VEHICLE TO THE FORD HOUSE OR SHAREWAY HOUSE OR EVEN, UH, A REPAIR SHOP AND ENTERPRISE WILL, UH, LET YOU PUT THE TIRES ON.

BUT ALL THEY'RE DOING IS THE VENDOR'S BILLING ENTERPRISE AND THEIR TERM BILLING US BACK.

AND ENTERPRISE FULLY RECOGNIZES THAT THE, UH, COUNTY HAS BILL BY TIRES AT MUCH LOWER PRICE THAN THEY DO.

OH.

BUT IT'S KIND OF MISLEADING.

WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU THINK THAT, UH, WE END UP PAYING, WE'RE DOING THAT, THEY'RE JUST BILLING US BACK.

THAT THERE'S A TIMELINE YOU CAN DO THAT.

LIKE I SAY, MY ONLY CONCERN IS NOW YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT IF YOU KNOW YOU GOT BAD TIRES OR YOU NEED TO CHECK YOUR TIRES AND AND, AND REPLACE A WHOLE SET, I UNDERSTAND

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I JUST WANT TO BE BACK ON THE ROAD WHEN WE HAVE A BLOWOUT OR SOMETHING AND WE, AND CAUSE THEY CAN HAVE PERFECTLY GOOD TREAD INSTEAD OF A BLOWOUT.

SO, AND THERE ARE TIMES WHEN A, WHEN YOUR BIG TRUCKS ARE GONNA BLOW OUT, IT MAY TAKE A DAY FROM TO GET THAT TIRE THERE ANYWAY.

WELL WE, YOU KNOW, YEAH, SOMETIMES IT WILL, MOST OF TIMES, MOST OF 'EM, OUR VENDORS, VENDORS REALLY HAVE TIRES IN STOCK.

SO, AND OUR GUY'S BEEN USING HARVEY AND HE KEEPS THE TIRES WE COMMONLY USE.

HE NORMALLY KEEPS THOSE IN STOCK.

ONE THE SAME EMERGENCIES IN EMERGENCY.

AND IT IS, YOU HAVE TO FIX THE TIRE.

CAUSE YOU KNOW, WE CARRY A LAY DOWN MACHINE ON OUR THING AND ONE TIME WE QUIT FOUR BLOWOUTS IN ONE DAY.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, JUST, AND THEY'RE BRAND NEW TIRE DON'T DID YOU OVERLOAD THE TRAILER? IS THAT WHAT YOU DID? ? WE SHOULD HAVE, I GUESS.

OH, OKAY.

AND, AND I WILL, WE'LL ADD, ADD TO THIS THAT AND, AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE PAID THROUGH THE NOSE TO GET THE TIRE GUYS OUT THERE JUST TO GET IT OFF THE HIGHWAY.

AND IN PRECINCT THREE, THE, UH, FIRESTONE DEALER, UH, THERE, THEY'RE SET UP TO SET ON STATE CONTRACT PRICE.

OH.

I THINK PRECINCT WENT THERE.

WE DID, UH, TRYING TO GET THAT IN THE FORNEY LOCATION, BUT THEY'RE NOT ACTUALLY SET UP ON A STATE CONTRACT.

BUT WE'LL WORK WITH VENDORS.

OF COURSE.

ANY OF THAT ARE THE ONE.

THAT ONE VENDOR THAT WE USE IN FORNEY, THAT TIRE SHOP, THEY GOT A ROAD TRUCK CAN COME OUT AND LIKE WHEN OUR GRA OR OR THEIR MOTOR WHEEL LOADER OR ANYTHING'S ON THE ROAD, THEY, THEY CAN FIX THOSE TIRES.

SO WE, WE NEED TO KEEP THEM IN PLACE EVEN THOUGH IF THEY DON'T DO THE TIRES, THAT'S FINE.

WE CAN SEND THE TIRES TOO.

AND I WILL ACKNOWLEDGE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, UH, DOES A GREAT JOB ON THAT.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE FOLLOW THE PROGRAM.

SO I WANT GIVE THEM THEIR PROPS.

GOOD DEAL.

THANK YOU GENTLEMEN.

BUT YEAH, WHEN YOU GET INTO THE TRACTOR AND YOU'RE WORKING ON THE ROAD, YOU NEED, SO YOU GOTTA REACH OUT TO OUR VENDORS WHERE YOU'RE USING.

CURRENTLY I'M GONNA REACH OUT TO THE LOCAL GUYS THAT WILL GIVE US A PRICE, YOU KNOW, THAT HAVE 'EM UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION THAT WE BUY TIRES AT A MUCH LOWER PRICE, PLUS WE'RE FOLLOWING THE STATE LAW.

AND THEY TEND TO UNDERSTAND ONCE YOU EXPLAIN TO 'EM.

AND, AND THEY, AND THEY LIKE THE BUSINESS INSTALLING AND, AND THE STEMS AND THE TUBE, WHATEVER IT IS, YOU KNOW.

UH, NUMBER 14, MS. AUDITOR DISCUSSED CONSIDERED LINE ITEM AND BUDGET TRANSFERS AND CORRECTIONS.

I DON'T, I'LL MAKE THEIR PROFIT.

, ANY KNOW OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? NOPE.

I DON'T CARELL MAKE THAT MOTION.

THERE YOU GO.

MR. MOORE MAKES THE MOTION.

NEED A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

MR. FHELPS, MAKE A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

UHUH.

MOTION.

CARRIE, THANK NUMBER 13.

JUDGE BLAIR, I WONDER IF HE GOT THE MESSAGE.

MAYBE NOT.

ANNABEL, CAN YOU REACH OUT TO JUDGE BLAIR? YES, SIR.

[14. Auditor; Discuss/Consider line-item and budget transfers/corrections.]

DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE THAT WERE EMAILED TO YOU EARLIER LAST WEEK? NO MA'AM.

MAY I ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL? NEED A MOTION THEN? MAKE A MOTION.

MR. HUNT MAKES A MOTION.

NEED A SECOND? SECOND.

MR. MR. BARBER MAKES A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVORS SAY AYE.

CONSIDER CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT AND FINANCIAL INFORMATION IS PROVIDED BY THE COUNTY AUDITOR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND MS. AUDITOR, AGAIN,

[15. Auditor; Discuss/Consider claims for payment and/or Financial Information as provided by the County Auditor.]

I JUST RECEIVED OUR ARBITRAGE REPORT AND WE OWE NO MONEY TO THE IRS.

SO WE'RE SPENDING OUR BOND MONEY AS WE SHOULD.

OUR CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT ARE MILLION $528,589 AND 7 CENTS, A PAYROLL OF 1,000,600 60,000 180 5 23 FOR TOTAL PAYOUT OF A 3,188,000 774 30.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT? NO, MA'AM.

NEED A MOTION THEN I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO PROVE MR. BARBARA MAKES THE MOTION.

NEED A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

SECOND.

COMMISSIONER MOORE.

JUDGE BLAIR IS ON HIS WAY, SO, UH, WE'LL DO THE WORKSHOP THING.

WE'LL GO BACK TO WE CAN WELL, YEAH, WE CAN GO AHEAD.

JUST GO AHEAD AND DO THAT.

IT WON'T TAKE THE WORKSHOP VERY LONG WITH IT.

I DON'T THINK IT WILL.

NOPE.

WHETHER I INTERRUPT IT? YEAH.

YEAH, HE'S GOTTA CALL IN.

UH, SOMEBODY ON IN HERE.

SO THE WORKSHOP NUMBER 16, COMMISSIONER BARBER DISCUSSED THE APPLICATION FOR TEXAS PROPERTY TAX CODE SECTION 3 81, REBATE AGREEMENT.

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THIS IS MIKE.

HEY MIKE.

THIS IS, UH, DAN WITH THE KAUFMAN COUNTY IT DEPARTMENT.

UM, YOU ARE IN COMMISSIONER'S COURT NOW, SO I GOT YOU LIVE ON THE POLY.

[16. Workshop - Commissioner Barber; Discuss the applications for Texas Property Tax Code Section 381 Rebate Agreement; Abies Springs BESS, LLC and Solar, LLC.]

ABEL SPRINGS, B E S S, LLL C AND SOLAR L L C.

MR. BARBER, DID YOU WANT TO READ THE LETTER THAT HE SENT TO YOU HERE? THAT WE UH, NO, GO AHEAD.

UM, ALRIGHT.

WE RECEIVED A LETTER FROM MIKE FRY WHO'S ON THE LINE WITH US HERE.

THEY'RE BASICALLY WANTING TO DISCUSS, UH, UH, THE 3 81 TAX REBATE, UH, FOR PROPERTY ENABLE SPRINGS, WHERE THEY'RE WANTING TO LOOK AT, UH, PUTTING IN, UH, I THINK IT'S A TWO OR THREE STEP, UH, PROCESS FOR A SOLAR, UH, FARM UP THERE.

AND THE INITIAL PART OF IT IS, UH, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, A UH, BATTERY STORAGE SITE.

UH, MIKE, DID YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND FILL US IN ON ALL THAT AND GO WITH WHAT YOU HAVE THERE? YES, SIR.

IS, UH, IS MR. BICKFORD IN IN THERE? YES.

UH, SO WHAT, WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS A, UH, OBVIOUSLY IS A, UH, BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEM WOULD BE ONE OF THE APPLICATIONS.

AND THE OTHER ONE WOULD BE THE, THE THE PV OR THE, THE SOLAR PROJECT.

AND SO WHAT WE HAD PROPOSED, YOU KNOW, ON THE, UH, BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE IS WE FILLED OUT THE ACTUAL, THE SHEET THAT THE COUNTY IS USING IN THE RECENT PAST ON THE CALCULATIONS.

AND WE HAD PROPOSED A, UH, 70% OFF OF THE, UH, ON THE M AND O ONLY, UH, NOT TOUCHING THE R AND B OBVIOUSLY IN THE I NS.

SO IT WAS ONLY ON THE M AND O.

ALL RIGHT.

I THINK, CLARK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE, THE BEST PROJECT A LITTLE BIT? WE DISCUSSED THE M AND O IN MY OFFICE, WHAT, A COUPLE WEEKS AGO? YES, SIR.

THAT'S CORRECT.

YOU WERE IN THERE AND I INDICATE THAT TIME THAT 70 WAS PROBABLY GONNA BE OVER THE TOP.

YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

AND, BUT THIS, AND JUDGE THIS PROBABLY, WE HAD THESE DISCUSSIONS BACK TOWARDS THE END OF NOVEMBER AND SO THAT, THAT'S WHY WE WERE USING THE 70 AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

TERRY, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAD DISCUSSED THIS BEFORE IN ON ANOTHER PROJECT.

WHERE, WHERE DID WE GO ON THE OTHER ONE? ANYBODY RECALL THAT? I DON'T KNOW.

UH, ON THE, THE EARLY SOLAR, THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONE AT SCURRY? YEAH.

I CAN'T RECALL WHAT WE DID ON THAT ONE OFF.

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT A COPY OF THE 3 81 AGREEMENT? YES, I HAVE IT, YEAH.

AT MY OFFICE.

I DIDN'T BRING IT THOUGH.

INTRODUCE YOURSELF PLEASE.

BUT I MEAN, I GOT A COPY.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT, THAT WAS DONE WITH THE SAME, KIND OF THE SAME KIND OF CALCULATIONS.

WHAT, WHAT SET UP AS A HUNDRED PERCENT ON ON AND THEN A PILOT PAYMENT? I BELIEVE THE NET TAXABLE SAVINGS WAS AROUND 70%.

ONLY THE MNL ONLY I GOT PAID BECAUSE THAT WAS 3 81.

SO THAT WE'RE JUST RIGHT.

I'M GONNA CHECK BACK.

RIGHT? IT'S NOT A, UH, SO WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR, UH, WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS? UH, I DON'T JUST WANNA SEE IF CLARK WAS ANYTHING ELSE YOU NEEDED TO STEP UP HERE.

SO CLARK BIXLER WITH A NAIL GREEN POWER PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE ABLE SPRINGS SOLAR PROJECT HAD A, UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF MAYBE A TECHNICAL CONFUSION HERE.

I'VE GOT SOME OTHER SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS THAT CAN SPEAK TO SOME OF THE PROJECTS OR SOME OF THE ASPECTS ABOUT THE PROJECT.

GOT 'EM HERE ON MY PHONE.

SO THIS MAY NOT BE THE BEST SITUATION.

UM, HERE, BUT, YOU KNOW, UM, WE CAN TALK THROUGH THE ABATEMENT ASPECT OF THE PROJECT, WANNA ALSO TALK ABOUT SOME PERMITTING, UM, AS WELL THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH WITH YOUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

UM, AND THEN ALSO BE ABLE TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO THE ROAD MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT.

SO, SORRY, AS I WAS TRYING TO ADD SOME TEAM MEMBERS IN HERE, BUT, BUT, UM, WHAT SPECIFICALLY WOULD YOU, YOU, UH, LIKE, LET'S GO ONE AT A TIME.

LET'S GO TO THE 3 81 ABATEMENT PERCENTAGES FIRST.

HOW MANY YEARS DID HE SAY ON THAT? HE SAID 10.

AND, AND I DON'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME, MIKE, DO YOU, ARE YOU ABLE TO SPEAK TO THE PERCENTAGES ON THAT? UH, ON THE ABATEMENT ITSELF OR ON THE, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT? SO ON THE, ON THE PROJECT ITSELF, ON THE, ON THE, IT WOULD RENDER A PAYMENT OF APPROXIMATELY FOR

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AND GIMME ONE SECOND HERE.

ON THE BEST YOU HAVE ANYTHING IN WRITING THE BEST WOULD RENDER ANOTHER 81 80 $1,846 LETTER.

WELL, THERE'S, THAT'S ONLY ON THE IMMINENT BASED ON THE M O, YOU KNOW, SAVINGS.

I CAN HEAR YOU.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT DID THEY GIVE US ANYTHING? I MEAN, I DON'T SEE IT IN BLACK AND WHITE.

I DON'T HAVE A CLUE.

ASK YOU A QUESTION.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

I'M RIGHT HERE.

I'M ON THE MIC.

I SAID I DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE IT IN BLACK AND WHITE.

WE DON'T.

IT'S KIND OF HARD TO READ.

AND DID YOU SAY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? WE NEED SOMETHING BLACK AND WHITE WITH WE CAN AT IT.

AND I THOUGHT MIKE HAD PROVIDED THAT MAYBE PREVIOUSLY BACK, UH, LAST YEAR, BUT YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

WE CAN.

I'LL HAVE A COPY OF THAT LIGHTING STUFF, SO YES.

YEAH, I, WE CAN PROVIDE THAT.

MIKE, MIKE, YOU DO HAVE THE, THE APPLICATION, THE PROJECTIONS READY? CORRECT.

WHAT I HAVE, I HAVE THE CHECKS AND I'M IN ROUTE THERE.

I I RAN INTO SOME PRETTY HORRIBLE TRAFFIC HERE, BUT I HAVE THE, I HAVE THE APPLICATION CHECKS AND THE APPLICATIONS YES.

AND, AND THE CALCULATIONS AND MIGHT HAVE IT THERE.

HERE'S THREE ANYWAY, I DON'T HAVE LAST YEAR'S.

I MEAN, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LAST YEAR'S OR WHAT HE SAID NOVEMBER LAST YEAR.

YEAH, WE HAD A, UH, A UH, EXECUTIVE SESSION MEETING.

AND THIS IS AVAILABLE SAME THING RIGHT HERE.

SHOULD BE.

YES SIR.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT DISCUSSION.

I GUESS THAT'S WHAT YOU PROBABLY SAW.

LET ME ASK SOMETHING TOO.

PART OF THIS DISCUSSION WE'RE HAVING TODAY WHEN THE ENGINEERING DEVELOPMENT SERVICES IS HERE, CUZ Y'ALL ARE WANTING TO SPLIT UP HOW WE DO THIS OR SOMETHING.

IS THAT CORRECT? CAUSE Y'ALL WANTING TO DO LIKE IN PHASES.

SO THERE'S, THERE'S TWO STANDALONE SEPARATE PROJECTS.

WE'VE GOT A BATTERY STORAGE PROJECT AND THEN A SOLAR PROJECT.

THE BATTERY STORAGE IS GOING TO BE CON UH, CONSTRUCTED PRIOR TO THE SOLAR.

UM, SO WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, WE'RE NEEDING TO WORK THROUGH PERMITTING, SPECIFICALLY A FLOODPLAIN PERMIT.

UM, WE'RE NEEDING TO SEPARATE THOSE PERMITS OUT AND, YOU KNOW, EXECUTE A FLOODPLAIN PERMIT FOR THE BATTERY STORAGE PORTION OF IT INDEPENDENTLY FROM THE SOLAR PORTION OF IT.

I MEAN, WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE EVERY HOPE AND INTENTION TO BUILD THE SOLAR PROJECT, BUT THE BATTERY STORAGE IS NOT DEPENDENT ON THE SOLAR PROJECT.

IF WE DELAY THE BATTERY STORAGE PROJECT TO THE POINT OF WHEN WE WOULD HAVE THE DESIGN ENGINEERING DESIGN TO BE ABLE TO SUBMIT, UM, TO DO AN H TWO STUDY FOR A FLOODPLAIN PERMIT, WE MISS OUR TIMELINE FOR OUR ABILITY TO BUILD THE BATTERY STORAGE PROJECT.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'D LIKE TO SEPARATE THEM.

AND THEY, THEY ARE SEPARATE LEGAL ENTITIES, SEPARATE CONTRACTORS WITH THEM, AND THEY NEITHER PROJECT ARE DEPENDENT ON THE OTHER.

UH, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'D LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, UH, WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

GARRETT WEREN, WERE THERE SOME ISSUES WITH THAT? SO YOU ORIGINALLY, WHY DON'T YOU COME UP THERE? BATTERY.

BATTERY, THINK UP A LOT LESS.

THE BATTERY'S GONNA BE, I THINK SPECIFICALLY JUST FOR THE BATTERY STORAGE FACILITY.

UH, JUST UNDER THREE ACRES I BELIEVE, OR RIGHT ABOUT THREE ACRES.

THREE ACRES.

STATE YOUR NAME PLEASE.

UH, GARRE MOORE COUNTY ENGINEER.

UM, ORIGINALLY WHEN WE HAD SPOKEN IN OUR LAST MEETING, UH, I GUESS I MUST HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD OR IT WAS NEVER STATED THAT THE SEPARATION WAS GONNA BE FOR TWO, UH, FOR THE BATTERY STORAGE ITSELF AND THE ACTUAL SOLAR FARM, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO GET THE ROAD IN WITH A, UM, THE BUILDING OF SORTS.

AND WITH WHAT WAS DESCRIBED TO ME OF THE WORKLOAD THAT WOULD BE ON THE PAR, THE PHASE ONE OF THE HYDROLOGY STUDY.

I DIDN'T SEE THERE BEING ENOUGH, UH, ENOUGH WORK THERE TO NECESSITATE TWO SEPARATE H AND H STUDIES BECAUSE IF IT'S JUST GONNA BE A ROAD IN A SMALL SHACK FROM WHAT THE, THE, THE WORK THAT WAS ASCRIBED TO ME, IT WASN'T GOING TO BE ENOUGH TO REALLY NECESSITATE THAT BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE ONE WHOLE PROJECT.

AND I'VE ALWAYS ACCEPTED EVERYTHING AS BEING ONE WHOLE PROJECT.

NEVER HAD AN ISSUE WITH ANYBODY NOT GIVING ME AN H AND H STUDY FOR THEIR WHOLE THING.

I WAS TOLD ALSO THAT THERE WEREN'T FULL CIVILS YET FOR THE WHOLE SOLAR FARM AS IT SITS.

SO THERE WAS ISSUES WITH THAT PLAN.

PLANS

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FOR IT.

AND WHICH IS SOMETHING I PUT THAT IN.

YOU HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OF THAT MM-HMM.

? NO.

UM, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT IS REQUIRED PERMITTING PROCESS IS THAT I WOULD NEED CIVIL.

SO IF YOU GOT CIVILS FOR THE BATTERY STORAGE AND THAT IS A FULLY SEPARATE PROJECT ITSELF, WE COULD TALK ABOUT SEPARATING THAT OUT.

AND THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD BE, WHAT'S THE WORD? AMIABLE TOO.

I GUESS.

UM, I'D BE FINE WITH THAT.

NOW, LIKE I SAID, WHEN IT WAS FIRST BROUGHT UP TO ME, IT WAS JUST TOLD TO ME THAT IT WAS JUST GONNA BE A ROAD AND A SHACK.

AND THAT'S NOT ENOUGH WORK FOR ME TO, UH, STATE THAT IT SHOULD BE GOOD ON TWO SEPARATE H AND H STUDIES.

SO SURE, WITH THE NEW INFORMATION, I'D BE OKAY WITH TALKING ABOUT IT, BUT I STILL NEED CIVIL PLANS FOR EVERYTHING.

BUT THERE WELL, WHEN WILL THEY BE COMING? ANY IDEA? KYLE, ARE YOU ABLE TO HEAR QUESTION THERE? UM, ON CIVIL PLANS YOU CAN REPEAT FULL QUESTION THERE.

I HEARD BIT AND PIECES OF IT, BUT IF YOU COULD REPEAT A CARD, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

AND, AND YOU'RE ASKING FOR THE SOLAR FACILITY, CORRECT? I'M ASKING FOR THE BATTERY STORAGE.

YES, FOR BOTH ACTUALLY.

BUT SPECIFICALLY IF YOU WANT TO GET THE BATTERY STORAGE DONE FIRST AND THAT'S THE FIRST PROJECT YOU WANT TO TACKLE, THAT'S THE FIRST SET OF PLANTS I'M GOING TO NEED.

SO COL GARRETT'S ASKING, UH, CIVIL DESIGN PLANS FOR THE BATTERY STORAGE PROJECT.

UH, TIMING OF THAT? YEAH, WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE 90% TODAY.

SO I THINK THAT WE COULD, UM, PROVIDE THAT.

UM, TODAY FOR THE, UH, FOR THIS IS FOR THE, FOR THE ACCESS ROAD AND THE GRADING OF THE, UM, OF THE POI SWITCHYARD.

AND, UH, BELIEVE THAT ALSO SHOWS THE, UH, THE BESTEN SUBSTATION GRADING PLAN AS IT RELATES TO, YOU KNOW, THE FULL, UM, THE FULL PAD.

SO, UM, AND, AND THE, THE GRADE THERE.

SO WE COULD, UH, WE HAVE THAT, UH, NOW, SO, OKAY.

SO IF I GET THOSE WITH AN APPLICATION, ACTUAL INFRASTRUCTURE, JUST THE GRADING.

OH, OKAY.

UH, IF I GET THAT WITH A FULL, WITH AN APPLICATION BECAUSE, UH, WE CHECKED THIS MORNING AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY APPLICATIONS FOR ANY KIND OF BUILDING PERMITS RIGHT NOW FROM Y'ALL.

WE'VE GOT THE PDQ BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.

IS THAT CORRECT, MEL? CORRECT.

SO WE WOULD NEED FLOODPLAIN DEVELOPMENT PERMIT APPLICATION YOU WOULD NEED, UH, TO PUT IN ACTUALLY, UM, BUILDING WHAT WOULD EVERYTHING ELSE BE THAT'S GONNA BE COMMERCIAL ON.

SO WE'VE ALSO GOT GABRIEL WITH THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE HERE TODAY.

IT'S ALSO TO, UH, KIND OF PUT FORWARD WHAT, IF THERE'S ANY CONFUSION ON HIS END ASIDE FROM JUST THE FLOODPLAIN DEVELOPMENT PERMIT.

I'LL NEED THE PLANS.

I'LL NEED, UM, H AND H STUDY OF COURSE AS WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED.

AND THAT'S GONNA NEED TO HAVE A REPORT ON INCREASE IN VELOCITY, A STATEMENT ON WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S GONNA BE ANY KIND OF SEDIMENTATION OR SCOUR BASED OFF OF THAT VELOCITY.

AND, UM, I CAN ALSO FORWARD YOU AGAIN THE UPDATED FLOODPLAIN, UH, MANAGEMENT COURT ORDER.

SO YOU CAN HAVE THAT.

BUT, UH, EVERYTHING'S GONNA NEED TO BE STAMPED AND SIGNED BY A REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER.

UM, THERE'LL NEED TO BE A STATEMENT THAT SAYS EVERYTHING'S BEEN DESIGNED WITH, UH, UH, PASSAGE FOR, UH, WATER SURFACE.

SO LIKE ANY KIND OF LIKE THE SHED THAT Y'ALL HAVE CALLED OUT ON THE PLAN IS GONNA NEED TO HAVE SOME SORT OF, UM, KIND OF WATERPROOFING AND ALSO THE BREAKAWAY PANELS FOR, UH, WATER FLOW IS GONNA, LIKE I SAID, JUST A CERTIFICATE THAT SAYS THAT EVERYTHING'S BEEN DESIGNED WITH, UH, INUNDATION IN MIND.

UM, OTHER THAN THAT, EVERYTHING ELSE IS PRETTY MUCH LISTED OUT VERBATIM ONTO THE, UH, UH, FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT COURT ORDER.

AND I DON'T WANT TO JUST SIT UP HERE AND REPEAT THE WHOLE THING.

SO, UH, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THE MAJOR THINGS.

THAT IT SHOULD BE CLARIFIED THAT THE, THE BEST INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WILL BE HOPEFULLY CONSTRUCTED THIS SUMMER IS NOT INCLUDED.

UM, KYLE, TYLER, TREVOR, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HEARD ALL OF THAT, BUT DID YOU HEAR MOST OF THAT? AND THEN CAN WE FOLLOW UP WITH AN EMAIL? UH, BUT IT, YOU KNOW, ON, ON EXACTLY WHAT IS NEEDED.

I THINK, I THINK YOU ALL HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF IT, BUT, UH, IT DOES SOUND LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE WILLING TO TALK ABOUT SPLITTING THE PERMITS, UH, SEPARATELY FROM THE BEST FROM THE SOLAR.

BUT DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS WHILE WE'RE HERE? I, I HAVE A QUESTION.

UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE 90% PLANS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE ARE JUST CIVIL.

UM, I THINK

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SO I DON'T WANT THERE TO BE ANY CONFUSION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY SUBMITTING SOMETHING.

NOW THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE, UM, THE FACILITY ITSELF.

WELL, THAT'LL NEED TO BE IN THE STRUCTURES THAT MIGHT NEED PERMITTING.

WELL, THAT'LL NEED TO BE ON THERE THEN, BECAUSE I NEED TO SEE PLANS THAT HAVE EVERYTHING THAT'S GONNA BE PART OF THIS CLAIM DEVELOPMENT PERMIT.

CAN YOU ELABORATE ON WHAT YOU THINK NEEDS PERMITTING? I MEAN, FOR, FOR THE SCOPE THAT WE'RE INTENDING TO CONSTRUCT HERE IS, I MEAN, WELL, ANYTHING, ANY STRUCTURE NEEDS TO BE CALLED OUT ONTO THE CIVIL PLANS.

SO THAT NEEDS TO BE, UH, ALL YOUR GRADING WITH ELEVATIONS CALLED OUT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I GUESS I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THAT THE COUNTY UNDERSTANDS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST PHASE OF CONSTRUCTION THAT WE'RE PROSING IS HEAVY CIVIL, JUST, JUST GRADING WORK, OF COURSE.

BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, MR. MOORE UNDERSTANDS THAT WE WILL BE, WE WILL BE INSTALLING THE, THE BEST INFRASTRUCTURE, ET CETERA, LATER THIS SUMMER.

SO, UH, UH, I WANNA CLARIFY THAT WE DON'T NEED AN ADDITIONAL PERMIT FOR THAT.

UM, AND IF WE DO, UM, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO GET THERE? BECAUSE WE'RE DOING THE GRADING WORK NOW.

BEST INSTALLATION LATER IN THE SUMMER, AND THEN HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL CONVERSATION, BUT THE, THE, THE SOLAR ARRAY LATER IN THE YEAR FOLLOWING.

SO IN ORDER, CAN YOU, CAN YOU CATCH HIM UP TO SPEED? OBVIOUSLY WHO ELSE IS, IS WITH YOU BY CHANCE? HEY, JEREMY, WE'RE COMMISSIONER'S COURT HERE.

SO, UH, COMMISSIONER JUDGE, EVERYBODY IN THE, IN THE COUNTY.

LET ME, UH, LET ME ALLOW GARRETT TO ANSWER THIS WAY.

SO FOR, AS, AS FAR AS WHAT NEEDS TO BE PERMITTED, IT'S BASICALLY EVERYTHING THAT'S ON YOUR PROJECT, IT NEEDS TO BE CALLED OUT IN YOUR H AND H STUDY.

IT NEEDS TO BE SHOWN BECAUSE WHATEVER YOUR FINAL LAYOUT'S GONNA BE, WHATEVER IS GOING TO BE PERMITTED, WHETHER YOU WANT TO DO A PHASE ONE SUBMITTAL FOR, UH, FTP JUST FOR YOUR BATTERY STORAGE AND GRADING, OR YOU WANT TO DO AN FDP FOR THE FULL PROJECT THAT NEEDS TO BE SUBMITTED TO ME WITH CIVILS.

AND IF THERE'S NOT SOMETHING IN THERE THAT DOESN'T HAVE YOUR CIVIL PLANS OR NOT INCLUDED IN THE CIVIL PLAN, SORRY, THEN I CAN'T NECESSARILY CUT YOU A PERMIT AND SAY, YEAH, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND WORK IN THERE IF I DON'T HAVE EVERY, EVERYTHING CALCULATED IN THE H AND H STUDY.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE OR AM I STILL NOT UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION? I BELIEVE SO.

SO THE INFRASTRUCTURE ITSELF, DESPITE THE FACT THAT IT WILL NOT LIKELY BE CONSTRUCTED UNTIL SUMMER NEEDS TO BE INCORPORATED IN THE, IN THE CIVIL PLANTS OR THE PLANS THAT YOU ARE REVIEWING TO ISSUE THE PERMIT? CORRECT.

THE INFRASTRUCTURE ITSELF THOUGH HAS, HAS LESS BEARING ON THE WAY TO DEGRADING CALCULATIONS AND ALL THE, ALL THE REPORTS ARE CREATED.

SO AS LONG AS THE SITE AND THE CIVIL ACTIVITIES ARE BEING DESIGNED AND MODELED CORRECTLY, THE ADDITION OF SOME, SOME IMPERVIOUS STRUCTURES REALLY WON'T CHANGE THE WAY THAT THE STORMWATER IS BEING MANAGED.

AND ADDRESS WOULD, WOULD YOU AGREE THERE, GARRETT? I WOULD, WE'RE SIMPLY TALK, TALKING ABOUT THE PHASE ONE, THE PANELS.

PANELS OF COURSE ARE A DIFFERENT STORY.

WELL, YES.

UH, WHEN IT COMES TO IMPERMEABLE AREA, IT NEEDS TO BE CALCULATED FOR BECAUSE THAT WATER IS NO LONGER BEING ABLE TO BE STORED BY THE DIRT ITSELF.

SO THAT'S AN INCREASE IN ON RUNOFF JUST BASED ON THAT.

SO WHILE YES, THE GRADING IS THE MAIN CONCERN WHEN IT COMES TO DIRECTING THE STORM WATER, UH, I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE INCREASE IN VOLUME, FLOW RATE, VELOCITY, ET CETERA, THAT COMES FROM ALL THAT.

SO ANY IMPERMEABLE STRUCTURE WILL NEED TO BE CALLED DOWN AND NEED TO BE CALCULATED FOR BOTH IN THE H AND H STUDY.

IT ALSO NEEDS TO BE CALLED OUT IN ANY PLANS THAT YOU SUBMIT TO ME.

TO, TO, UH, POOR FOUNDATIONS AND THAT SORT OF THING.

THIS IS KYLE BAKER, THE PROJECT ENGINEER FOR THIS.

SO CAN WE NOT SUBMIT, CAUSE LIKE I WAS SAYING BEFORE, WE HAVE THE, WE HAVE THE CIVIL DESIGN RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THAT IS THE FIRST SCOPE THAT'S HAPPENING.

AND THAT'S GOING TO BE A TOTALLY SEPARATE MOBILIZATION.

THEY'RE JUST GOING TO DO THE ACCESS ROAD CONSTRUCTION PLAN.

START DATE IS IN APRIL.

AND, UM, ACCESS ROAD CONSTRUCTION AND JUST THE ROUGH GRADING OF OF THE PAD.

UM, THEN THEY WILL DEMOBILIZE AND IT WILL JUST BE IN THAT STATE FOR, UM, A FEW MONTHS UNTIL THEY COME BACK IN IN JULY TO START THE ACTUAL BEST AND SUBSTATION CONSTRUCTION.

UM, AND, AND THE ACTUAL STARTING

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SO IS THERE NO WAY WE CAN SUBMIT THE CIVIL DESIGN? CAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE NOW.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE ACTUAL DESIGN FOR THE SUBSTATION OF BEST YARDS FOR, FOR, FOR SOME MONTH.

UM, AND THAT SCOPE IS LATER.

SO IS THERE NO WAY WE CAN SUBMIT THE CIVIL DESIGN? NO, BECAUSE THE POINT OF INITIAL BETWEEN DEVELOPMENT PERMIT IS TO SHOW WHAT THE FINAL SETUP IS GOING TO DO TO THE DRAINAGE AND THE HYDROLOGY OF THE LOCAL AREA.

SO REGARDLESS OF WHENEVER SOMETHING IS PUT IN, IT STILL NEEDS TO BE ACCOUNTED FOR BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, THE POINT IS TO DETERMINE THE FINAL PHASE, THE FINAL, UH, IMPACT CREATED.

SO REGARDLESS IF IT COMES IN NEXT MONTH OR 10 YEARS FROM NOW, IT NEEDS TO BE ON THERE.

LET'S TAKE ONE.

I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, LET'S NEW, UH, YOU WANNA GO AHEAD? YEAH.

WE'VE GOT TOO MANY UNRESOLVED ISSUES MM-HMM.

TODAY.

WE CAN, THIS CAN GO ON FOR A LONG TIME.

LET'S GIVE YOU GUYS TIME TO TALK AND KNOW EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE SINCE THERE'S NO ACTION TAKEN TODAY.

THIS IS JUST KIND OF DISCUSSION AND WE'LL ALL GET BACK TOGETHER WHEN EVERYONE INTRODUCTION A ROW TO REPHRASE THE QUESTION.

ONCE, ONCE WHOEVER SPEAKING IS, IS DONE.

SORRY, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO HEAR SO WELL.

SORRY, JAMIE.

SO WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE TALKING, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ABATEMENT HERE.

WE'RE GONNA TABLE DISCUSSION, PICK IT UP OUTSIDE OF COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND UH, TALK ABOUT THIS FURTHER.

UM, SO I, I THINK, YEAH.

WE'LL, WE'LL PICK THIS BACK UP OUTSIDE OF HERE, GUYS.

I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA PUT YOU GUYS ON MUTE.

I'LL LET YOU LISTEN IN IN CASE SOMETHING ELSE POPS UP, BUT WE SHOULD BE WRAPPING UP.

YEAH, I THINK THE SIMPLEST THING TO DO AT THIS POINT.

AND SORRY, SORRY, VIDEO UN QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW.

SO LET'S COVER OVER THE TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES ON THIS.

THAT'S OKAY.

ONLY THING I'LL ADD HERE IS WE ARE NEEDING TO START CONSTRUCTION PRETTY QUICKLY ON THE BATTERY STORAGE PROJECT.

WE'RE MOVING FORWARD OR HAVE BEEN MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT PROJECT UNDER THE ASSUMPTION, WHAT WE HAD DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY, AND I KNOW, YOU KNOW, NOTHING WAS SIGNED PREVIOUSLY, BUT, UM, IF THE 3 81 AGREEMENT, WE PR WE CAN'T START CONSTRUCTION ON THE PROJECT UNLESS THAT WERE TO MOVE FORWARD.

SO WE WOULD NEED TO MOVE FORWARD IF WE'RE GOING TO DO SO FAIRLY QUICKLY.

UM, OR ELSE THE BATTERY STORAGES PROJECT PROBABLY DOES NOT HAPPEN.

WELL, WE MEET EVERY WEEK, SO THANK YOU ALL.

WE'RE GOOD.

IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST THE WEEKS ABSOLUTELY.

WHAT HE'S DOING IS PROTECTIVE.

Y'ALL GET THOSE DETAILS WORK OUT.

IT WOULDN'T HURT.

IT WOULDN'T HURT IF IF, IF YOU'RE BRINGING THE BATTERY, IT WOULDN'T BY ITSELF EVEN, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? EVEN IF IT'S NOT, YOU CAN BRING THE BATTERY WOULDN'T BY ITSELF.

AND, AND IF, AND THEY WILL BE AT SOME POINT, I'M GONNA SUGGEST EVERYBODY ELSE.

WE HAVE TO START LOOKING AT THE ACREAGE THAT EVERYBODY'S USING ON SOLAR FARM.

AND DETERMINING WHETHER OR NOT THAT WE MIGHT NEED THAT SPACE DOWN THE ROAD OR THE FUTURE OF KAUFMAN COUNTY OR WHATEVER.

INSTEAD OF BEING HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF ACRES OR SO FARM SOLAR PANELS, IT'S, IT'S SOONER OR LATER YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO SAY, ARE WE DOING THIS TOO CHEAP? BECAUSE ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE GETTING AWFUL.

WE SEEM TO BE AWFUL AND ATTRACTIVE HERE FOR SOME REASON FOR SOLAR FARM.

SO, AND THERE IS NO, YOU KNOW, I HATE TO GIVE AWAY MONEY.

I'M, I'M NOT GONNA LIE.

YOU KNOW, BECAUSE ANYTHING THAT WE GIVE AWAY THAT, THAT MEANS, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T SAVE ON THE HOMES OF TAX.

WELL, THE TAXPAYERS GOTTA MAKE THE DIFFERE.

THAT'S RIGHT.

AND, AND, UH, AND, AND SO WE DID ELIMINATE SOME MONEY ON THE MINO, EVEN IF IT WAS IN FARM OR AG EXEMPT OF SOME KIND.

MINO WAS RECEIVING MONEY.

AND I REALIZE YOU'RE SAYING, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO END CREEK.

WELL THAT'S WONDERFUL.

BUT WE M AND O STILL OPERATES OUR JAIL AND ALL OF OUR POLICE OFFICERS AND EVERYTHING WE DO.

SO I'M, I'M GETTING A LITTLE DISGUSTED WITH THE M AND OS STILL STAYING AT ZERO.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST NOT A GOOD, THAT'S NOT A GOOD NUMBER FOR ME.

I'M, I'M JUST BEING TRUTHFUL WITH YOU.

YOU KNOW, AND IT'S NOT THAT I'M TRYING TO BEAT ANYBODY UP ON IT, BUT IT'S JUST WHAT IT IS.

AND TO YOUR POINT OF SEPARATING 'EM, ABSOLUTELY.

THEY WILL BE SEPARATE APPLICATIONS.

FROM THE DISTRICT JUDGE IS A RELU IS A RESOLUTION REQUESTING THE 88 LEGISLATIVE, CREATE AN ADDITIONAL DISTRICT COURT IN KAUFMAN COUNTY.

SOLAR SEPARATE FROM, UH, NEEDS TO BE YEAH, YEAH.

FROM THE BATTERY.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO ACRES, THREE ACRES IS A LOT DIFFERENT THAN HOW, HOW BIG IS THE SOLAR FARM ITSELF? SO WE HAVE, UH, AT LEAST ON 1200 ACRES.

WE'LL FOLLOW BACK UP SEPARATELY AGAIN.

SORRY FOR THE THAT'S OKAY.

TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES, BUT THANK YOU.

NOW WE'RE JUST WAITING ON THE DISTRICT DEBT.

NO, HE'S NOT, HE'S NOT GONNA COME.

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[13. Judge Blair; Discuss/Consider the resolution to request the creation of a new District Court by the Texas Legislature.]

OUR NUMBERS ARE GETTING THERE.

I THINK WE PROBABLY ARE THERE.

UH, I WILL YOU WANT ME TO READ THIS OR JUST GIVE YOU GUYS A COPY? WE'VE GOT A GOT A COPY.

YOU GOT A COPY.

I DON'T NEED TO READ IT THEN.

SO AS YOU KNOW, THE, THE COURT NUMBERS, I MEAN, WITH THE RISE IN POPULATION, YOU HAVE A RISE IN COURT CASES, YOU HAVE A RISE IN AND EVERYTHING.

AND THAT'S BEING REFLECTED AND, AND SHOWING UP PRIMARILY IN OUR COURTS AND OUR NEED TO, UM, PROCESS THOSE ISSUES.

IN, IN ALL OF THE COURTS, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE OCA TO GET THE NUMBERS, UH, WHERE THEY NEED THEM TO BE TO JUSTIFY HAVING AN ADDITIONAL DISTRICT COURT.

JUDGE BLAIR MET WITH THE OCA A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WITH THE HELP OF, UM, REPRESENTATIVE BELL AND THEY HAVE AGREED NOW THAT WE DO HAVE THE NUMBERS NECESSARY TO WARRANT ANOTHER COURT, A THIRD DISTRICT COURT.

SO THIS RESOLUTION, BASICALLY WHAT IT DOES, IT ASKS KEITH BELL AND SENATOR HALL, UH, TO ASSIST US WITH THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS TO GET THAT COURT PASSED THROUGH THE LEGISLATION.

THIS, UM, THIS TERM AND THE STATE PICKS UP THE TAB FOR THE JUDGE.

THAT'S A GOOD THING ABOUT IT.

THE SALARY, BUT NOT SALARY.

NOT NOT REST OF THE PROCESS.

NOT THE REST, BUT NOT THE REST OF IT.

ONE STEP AT A TIME.

AND THAT, AND ONCE YOU REACH OVER 150,000, THEY'RE KIND OF REQUIRING YOU TO HAVE THE EXTRA DISTRICT.

THAT, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

I MEAN, THAT'S JUST WHAT'S IN THE BOOK.

UM, SO WE'RE AT THAT POPULATION IN MORE, UM, AND THEIR WORKLOAD KEEPS GETTING HEAVIER.

WHEN, WHEN DO, DO THEY UN IF THEY PASS THE REVOLUTION IN THIS, WHEN WILL WE ACTUALLY PUT THE COURT IN EFFECT, IN THE NEXT BUDGET YEAR, NOT THIS BUDGET YEAR.

SO IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING, TALKING WITH JUDGE BLAIR THAT HE AGREED TO A TWO YEAR, UM, SPIN UP TIME.

SO IT WOULD NOT BE, WE HAVE, WE START FOR TWO YEARS.

WE START DOING IT IN THE NEXT BUDGET, IN THE FOLLOWING ONE TO GET IT STARTED.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY JUST NO.

CAUSE IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S GONNA BE A BUDGET IMPACT.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A SERIOUS BUDGET IMPACT SEVERAL EMPLOYEES.

YOU BUDGET GET, IT'S THE DISTRICT COURT, I GUESS THIS IS A DISTRICT CLERKS PROBABLY HAVE TO HANDLE ANOTHER COURT.

WELL, THEY'LL, THEY'LL HIRE PEOPLE.

AND THE STATE JUST PLACED THE JUDGE'S SALARY ALONE, RIGHT? YES.

AND THEY DON'T PAY ALL OF THAT.

YEAH, THEY DO.

WELL, WE GIVE 'EM, WE GIVE THEM A ST WE GIVE 'EM SAMPLE BY OUR CHOICE.

SO IF THEY GIVE 'EM TOO BIG A RAISE THIS YEAR, WE CAN TAKE THE ST BACK.

OH, JUDGE BLAIR , HE'S ASKING US TO, IF THEY'RE WATCHING, THEY'LL BE SCREAMING THEN RESOLUTION SO HE CAN GIVE IT TO REPRESENTATIVE.

I NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS.

I'LL MAKE THE MOTION FORWARD.

COMMISSIONER BARBARA, SECOND.

, MR. HUNT MADE A MOTION.

I NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

THE MOTION CARRIES.

IF YOU WILL SIGN THIS, PLEASE.

[17. Adjourn Meeting]

I'M GONNA MAKE THAT MOTION FOR YOU.

I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT.

MR. PHELPS MAKES THE MOTION TO ADJOURN A SECOND SPEECH TO IT.

TOMMY HERE.

BAR MAKES SECOND.

I THOUGHT THAT WOULD COME ON.