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MA'AM, IT'S

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A MINUTE FAST UP THERE ON THE WALL.

GOOD MORNING

[Call to Order]

EVERYONE.

I'D LIKE TO WELCOME YOU ALL TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT REGULAR MEETING TODAY, MARCH 21ST, 2023.

BEFORE WE GET STARTED THIS MORNING, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PRAYER BY COMMISSIONER BARBARA, THEN OUR PLEDGES BY COMMISSIONER MOORE, IF YOU WOULD STAND, PLEASE.

ALL RIGHT.

THE FATHER, WE WANNA THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY, ASK YOU TO BE WITH US, UH, WHILE WE, UH, DELIBERATE ISSUES FOR THE COUNTY THIS MORNING.

UH, HELP US MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS.

DO BEST FOR EVERYONE, UM, ASK YOU TO PLEASE BE WITH OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND OUR MILITARY AND KEEP US ALL SAFE.

AND IT'S IN YOUR SON'S NAME WE PRAY.

AMEN.

AMEN.

AMEN.

WHEN IS TO FLAG THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS? ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INVISIBLE VALIDITY AND JUSTICE FRAUD, HONOR IN TEXAS.

FLAG PLEDGE ALLEG Z TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE IN INVISIBLE.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER HUNT WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO JOIN US TODAY.

HE'S OUT.

LAURA, WE HAVE ANYONE SIGN UP TO SPEAK TODAY? OKAY.

THANK YOU.

SO FOR WILL, DOES ANYONE

[1. ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.]

HAVE ANY ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE THEY'D LIKE TO SHARE THIS MORNING? NO.

NO? OKAY.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

[2. CONSENT AGENDA]

I HAVE A ASK MS. FLOYD ON ITEM C AND D TO GIVE US A REPORT ON THAT.

SO WE'RE JUST GONNA BE LOOKING AT ITEMS A AND B ON THERE.

DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR CORRECTIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE AT THIS TIME? IF NOT, NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT.

MR. PHELPS.

MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT.

NEED A SECOND? SECOND.

MR. BARBER.

MAY 2ND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

MS. TERESA, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE, UH, SHE'S GOING TO PRESENT THE TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR'S MONTHLY PROPERTY TAX REPORT FOR FEBRUARY OF 2023.

GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING.

OKAY.

SO, UH, THE CURRENT COLLECTIONS FOR FEBRUARY WAS 8,585,008 1843 WITH DELINQUENT COLLECTIONS OF 2 86, 7 21 39 FOR A TOTAL COLLECTIVE OF 8 MILLION 8 72, 5 39 82.

AND ROAD AND BRIDGE WAS 1 MILLION 7 37 3 0 1 50.

DELINQUENT FOR ROAD BRIDGE WAS 61,000 966 24.

WE DID HAVE A, UH, ROLLBACK, IT LOOKS LIKE IN PRECINCT TWO.

ONE OF THEM WAS, IT'S 565 ACRES AND PRECINCT THREE WAS 166 ACRES AND FOUR 11 ACRES.

SO A TOTAL OF 742 ACRES.

AND WE HAD 10,633 TRANSACTIONS IN FEBRUARY.

OKAY.

ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? C HUH? OKAY.

WELL, LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO D WHILE WE'RE HERE TO PRESENT AND ACCEPT THE TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR'S MONTHLY AUTO COLLECTIONS REPORT FOR FEBRUARY, 2023.

OKAY.

ON THE AUTO MONTHLY COLLECTIONS REPORT, WE COLLECTED, UH, 2,474,497 96 CENTS.

AND OF THAT COLLECTION, THE COUNTY WAS GIVEN 181,000 348 0 9, UH, FOR THIS YEAR.

AND OF COURSE IT DOES SHOW THAT WE ARE UP ON OUR, YOU KNOW, TRANSACTIONS FROM LAST YEAR.

SO IN OUR CONVERSATION YESTERDAY, YOU MENTIONED WHERE WE ARE PERCENTAGE WISE AS FAR AS TAXES THAT WERE COLLECTED MM-HMM.

YES.

VERSUS LAST YEAR.

YES, BECAUSE IT'S YEAR TO DATE IN DECEMBER.

OF COURSE, OUR COLLECTIONS WERE DOWN YEAR TO DATE BECAUSE NO, JANUARY YEAR TO DATE BECAUSE OF THE ICE STORM.

WE WERE CLOSED THAT WEEK.

BUT IN FEBRUARY WE DO SHOW THAT WE'RE BACK UP WHERE WE NEED TO BE.

UM, OUR COLLECTIONS ARE EXACTLY PRETTY CLOSE TO WHERE THEY WERE IN 22 IN FEBRUARY, WHICH IS A GOOD ONE, WHICH IS GOOD.

VERY GOOD.

YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE RIGHT UP TO WHERE WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE.

I WAS KIND OF CONCERNED WITH THE ECONOMY WAY IT'S TURNED JUST A LITTLE BIT DOWN.

YEAH.

SO THAT'S GREAT.

IT HAS, BUT IT LOOKS, STILL LOOKS THE SAME.

SO WE'RE DOING GOOD.

THAT'S GREAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

YOU NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT TERESA'S REPORT.

PLEASE MAKE A MOTION.

MR. BARBARA MAKES THE MOTION.

NEED A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

MR. MOORE.

SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU TERESA.

[3. Susan Gulig; Discuss/Consider updates/requests for the Humane Society of North Texas regarding daily operations of the Kaufman County Pet Adoption Center.]

ITEM NUMBER THREE, SUSAN GOIG, DISCUSS, CONSIDER UPDATES REQUESTS FOR THE HUMANE SOCIETY OF NORTH TEXAS REGARDING DAILY OPERATIONS OF THE KAUFFMAN COUNTY PET ADOPTION CENTER.

YES, MA'AM.

GOOD MORNING.

OKAY.

GOOD MORNING.

UH, I'LL JUST GIVE A BRIEF UPDATE SINCE I'VE SPOKEN TO THE GROUP BEFORE, BUT JUST TO, I KNOW THERE'S SOME NEW FOLKS AND THINGS.

JUST TO GIVE A COUP, AND I BELIEVE EVERYONE HAS THE HANDOUT THAT I SUBMITTED YESTERDAY.

UM, THE PET ADOPTION CENTER OPENED IN MARCH OF 2022,

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AND WE HAD THE GRAND OPENING IN APRIL.

WE'RE STAFFED WITH ROUGHLY 11 TO 12 STAFF MEMBERS, INCLUDING A MANAGER AND ASSISTANT MANAGER, VET TECH, AND THEN ADOPTION COORDINATORS AND OTHER TECHNICIANS.

WE DON'T HAVE A VETERINARIAN ON SITE, UH, BUT OUR DIRECTOR OF SHELTER MEDICINE DOES PROVIDE MEDICAL OVERSIGHT AND DOES COME OUT PERIODICALLY TO VISIT THE, THE FACILITY.

UH, WE HAVE A VOLUNTEER VETERINARIAN WHO, UM, COMES IN AND PERFORMS RABIES VACCINATIONS PERIODICALLY, WHICH HELPS OUT A GREAT DEAL.

WE HAVE ABOUT 16 REGISTERED VOLUNTEERS AND FIVE TO SIX VERY ACTIVE VOLUNTEERS.

WE WANT TO BUILD THAT PROGRAM AND ALSO BUILD A FOSTER PROGRAM, WHICH HELPS KEEP ANIMALS OUT OF THE SHELTER WHILE THEY'RE EITHER RECOVERING FROM MEDICAL, PR, UM, PROCEDURES OR THEIR MOMS AND PUPPIES OR KITTENS, UH, THAT ARE TOO YOUNG TO BE ADOPTED.

UH, ATTACHED TO THE HAND ON I GAVE YOU, I HAVE THE FIRST 12 MONTHS OF OPERATIONS.

SO THIS IS MARCH OF 2022 THROUGH FEBRUARY OF 2023.

UH, WE TOOK IN 1,135 DOGS FROM KAUFMAN COUNTY, 61 DOGS FROM MAYBANK, WHICH IS THE ONLY OTHER MUNICIPALITY THAT WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH CURRENTLY.

AND MORE THAN 700 PETS CAME IN FROM OWNERS THAT WERE TURNED IN AS EITHER STRAYS OR, UM, OWNER SURRENDERS.

ON THE OUTCOME SIDE OF THINGS, WE HAD 818 PETS ADOPTED AT THE FACILITY DURING THE FIRST YEAR.

ABOUT 50% OF THOSE ADOPTIONS WERE FROM KAUFMAN COUNTY RESIDENTS.

WE HAD ANOTHER, ROUGHLY 25% CAME FROM SURROUNDING COUNTIES, INCLUDING DALLAS AND UM, HENDERSON COUNTY.

AND THEN, SURPRISINGLY, 25% CAME FROM TARRANT AND OTHER COUNTIES DRIVING OVER, COMING AND SEEING THE PETS BEING ADOPTED.

UM, FROM OUR PETS AVAILABLE FOR ADOPTION ON OUR WEBSITE AND THROUGH OUR SOCIAL MEDIA.

THERE WAS MORE THAN 90 PEOPLE FROM FORT WORTH DROVE OVER AND ADOPTED PETS.

WE HAD 800, UH, ALMOST 900 PETS WERE TRANSFERRED FROM THE FACILITY TO OTHER HS AND T LOCATIONS CUZ THERE'S AN OVERSUPPLY OF, OF PETS, PRIMARILY DOGS HERE.

AND SO WE BROUGHT THEM OVER TO SOME OF OUR OTHER LOCATIONS WHERE WE THEN ALTERED THE PETS AND THEN ADOPT 'EM AT OTHER LOCATIONS.

UM, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE, UH, IT WAS 92 YESTERDAY.

IT'S 95 TODAY.

BUT, UH, IT'S BASICALLY 80, UH, 74 DOGS, 1317 CATS AND ONE GUINEA PIG THERE AT THE FACILITY TONIGHT.

TODAY, UM, OVERALL, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES IN CREATING THE SHELTER AND IN OUR OPERATION OF IT AS IS WITH ALL OF OUR OPERATIONS.

WE HAVE A 97% LIVE RELEASE RATE.

SO WE'RE ALL HERE TO SAVE THE ANIMALS AND WE'RE DOING A GOOD JOB OF THAT WITH THE COUNTY'S HELP AND WITH ALL THE ADOPTIONS AND, AND OTHER OPERATIONS GOING ON.

ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO BRING THE, UM, COMMISSIONER'S COURT UP TO DATE ON IS CANINE INFLUENZA IS RAMPANT IN THE NORTH TEXAS AREA.

THERE'S AT LEAST 10 LARGE SHELTERS, BOTH DALLAS AND FORT WORTH HAVE IT.

UM, OPERATION KINDNESS PLANO, WE HAVE IT CURRENTLY.

WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS JUST, UM, WORKING WITH EXPERTS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA AND THE UNIVERSITY OF, UM, WISCONSIN ON HOW TO TREAT IT.

IT'S NOT GENERALLY DEADLY, IT'S JUST VERY CONTAGIOUS.

UH, AND SO WE LOCK DOWN THE DOGS IN THE VARIOUS, AT THIS FACILITY IN THE VARIOUS KENNELS, BANKS OF KENNELS.

AND, UM, WE'RE HOLDING 'EM FOR THREE WEEKS.

IT'S JUST BASICALLY KENNEL COUGH, A COUGH KIND OF A THING.

SO, BUT IT'S VERY CONTAGIOUS, SO WE DON'T WANT IT BEING ADOPTED AND SPREAD TO PEOPLE'S OWN PETS.

THOSE DOGS, THERE'S ABOUT 50 DOGS THAT ARE IMPACTED BY IT.

NOT ALL OF THEM TESTED POSITIVE FOR IT, BUT THEY WERE ALL EXPOSED TO IT.

SO WE, UM, SHOULD BE DONE WITH THAT THREE WEEK HOLD AT THE END OF THE WEEK.

SO WE SHOULD HAVE MORE DOGS AVAILABLE.

I THINK IF YOU GO TO THE WEBSITE, THERE'S MAYBE ONE DOG THAT'S SHOWING UP IS AVAILABLE AT THE FACILITY, BUT NO DOGS HAVE DIED.

IT'S JUST PRECAUTIONARY.

AND WE'RE FOLLOWING, LIKE I SAID, BEST PRACTICES.

UH, WE ARE, IN ORDER TO KEEP HEALTHY DOGS FROM GETTING THE, THE, UM, CANINE INFLUENZA ACROSS ALL OF OUR OPERATIONS, WE HAVE STARTED A $250, UH, FOSTER PROGRAM.

SO IF SOMEONE WANTS TO ADOPT OR NOT ADOPT, TO FOSTER A HEALTHY DOG FOR THREE WEEKS, YOU HAVE TO KEEP IT SEPARATE FROM YOUR OWN PETS.

BUT, AND, UM, WE WILL PAY HUNDRED, $250.

BOTH DALLAS AND FORT WORTH DID THIS BECAUSE AGAIN, IT JUST INTAKE'S STILL COMING IN.

WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET THE HEALTHY ONES OUT AND KEEP 'EM FROM BEING EXPOSED.

THEY DID IT FOR TWO WEEKS AT ONE 50.

WE'RE TRYING THE EXTRA WEEK JUST TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE, THEY'RE, UM, FREE FROM THE ILLNESS AND WE JUST START, KICK THAT OFF THIS WEEK.

SO IT'S ELIGIBLE FOR PEOPLE IN KAMAN COUNTY AND AT ALL OF OUR FACILITIES, UH, IT'S FOR DOGS OVER 40 POUNDS OR A LITTER OF THREE OR MORE PUPPIES.

SO ANYONE INTERESTED IN THAT.

ANOTHER THING WE'VE DONE ON THE OPERATIONAL SIDE IS WE PARTNER WITH PETCO AND TARELL.

WE HAVE CATS IN THERE 24 7, AND WE'VE DONE SEVERAL ADOPTIONS THERE.

WE'VE ADOPTED OVER 50 PETS AT THE PETCO AND TARELL ON THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH SIDE OF THINGS.

WE ARE PLANNING A FREE PUBLIC VACCINE CLINIC AT THE SHELTER IN MAY.

IT'LL PROBABLY BE THE FIRST WEEK IN MAY.

WE'LL PUT AN ANNOUNCEMENT OUT WHEN WE HAVE THE DATE FINALIZED, WE'LL HAVE PREVA, PRE FREE

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RABIES AND D A P P VACCINES, WHICH IS DISTEMPER AND PARVOVIRUS PARVO IS, UH, BOTH DISTEMPER AND PARVO HAVE BEEN, UM, UH, GOING AROUND NORTH TEXAS ALSO.

SO IT'S IMPORTANT FOR EVERYONE TO VACCINATE THEIR PETS.

SO WE'LL HAVE THIS FREE VACCINE CLINIC AND THERE'S THE CAT EQUIVALENT OF WHATEVER THE DPP, I THINK IT'S CALLED HCP, THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE ALSO FREE, UM, AT THE SHELTER.

WE ALSO HAVE A FREE SPAY NEUTER PROGRAM THAT WE CALL S SNIFF SPAY AND NEUTER IT FOR FREE.

WE HAVE VOUCHERS THAT ARE GOOD FOR A FREE SPAY NEUTER SURGERY AT, IT'S GOOD AT SPAY NEUTER NET.

WE'VE PARTNERED WITH SPAY NEUTER NETWORK, SO OBVIOUSLY THE C CRANDAL LOCATION.

TEXAS COALITION FOR ANIMAL PROTECTION HAS A CLINIC IN GARLAND, WHICH WOULD BE THE CLOSEST ONE HERE.

AND ALSO AT OUR MAIN, UM, CLINIC, WHICH I DON'T KNOW THAT PEOPLE WOULD DRIVE 60 MILES, BUT WE GIVE THOSE OUT THROUGHOUT THE FORT WORTH AREA.

AND ALSO HERE WE ARE LOOKING FOR A SPONSOR WHO WOULD LIKE TO PROMOTE AND HAVE A KAUFMAN SPECIFIC, UM, VOUCHER.

WE'D PUT, IF WE GET A BUSINESS, WE'D PUT THEIR LOGO OR SOMEONE'S NAME ON IT IF THEY'D LIKE IT.

CUZ THOSE SURGERIES COST ROUGHLY $70 EACH.

SO IT'S NOT CHEAP.

BUT WE DO, THAT'S, THAT IS THE, THE MAIN WAY TO KEEP HOMELESS PETS FROM ENTERING SHELTERS IS TO SPAN NEW TO YOUR PETS.

SO WE ARE, UM, UPPING THAT PROGRAM AND IT'S A PROGRAM WE'VE HAD FOR YEARS ON THE FORT WORTH SIDE, AND WE WANT TO GET A KAUFMAN SPECIFIC PROGRAM GOING HERE.

UH, WHEN I CAME TO BEFORE THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT BEF, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THIS CONTRACT, WE WERE LOOKING AT, UM, PARTNERING WITH THE LOCAL HIGH SCHOOLS ON THE VET TECH PROGRAMS. TURNS OUT, IN ORDER FOR THE VET TECHS TO ACTUALLY INTERN AT OUR FACILITY, THERE HAS TO BE A LICENSED VET ON SITE.

AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT.

SO WE'LL LOOK AT WAYS THAT IF THERE'S THINGS WE CAN DO ON MORE OF LIKE A VOLUNTEER BASIS AND THINGS, BUT IF WE DON'T ACTUALLY MEET THE INTERNSHIP REQUIREMENTS FOR THOSE PROGRAMS. AND I BELIEVE FORNEY AND MAYBE TERRELL BOTH HAVE A VET TECH PROGRAM, UM, AT THE TIME WHEN, WHEN WE WERE LOOKING INTO THAT.

SO, UH, IT'S SOMETHING WE'D, WE'D LIKE TO DO WHAT WE CAN FOR IT, IF THERE'S ANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM TO, TO LEARN KIND OF HANDS ON AT THE FACILITY.

ON THE COMMUNICATION SIDE, WE HAVE A SEPARATE WEBPAGE SPECIFICALLY FOR THE SERVICES AT KAUFMAN.

UH, SO BOTH OUR INTAKE PROCESS AND, UH, PET ADOPTIONS.

AND I HAVE JUST GOTTEN A, UM, WORD THAT WE HAVE A SEPARATE FACEBOOK PAGE THAT'S BEEN APPROVED.

SO WE'LL CREATE A SEPARATE FACEBOOK PAGE BECAUSE THOSE GENERAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT PETS AVAILABLE, LOST PETS, PET ADOPTIONS HAPPEN MORE REGIONALLY.

I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, PEOPLE DO DRIVE 60 MILES OVER HERE.

BUT TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS, WE HAVE A, WE'RE GONNA CREATE A SEPARATE FACEBOOK PAGE HERE FOR THE KAUFMAN FACILITY.

UM, WE'VE BEEN ADVERTISING PRIMARILY ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

THAT'S WHAT WE DO THROUGHOUT MOST OF OUR LOCATIONS.

WE SPENT OVER $5,000 ON FACEBOOK ADS, SPECIFICALLY FOR KAUFMAN AND SURROUNDING COUNTIES.

UM, ONE THING THAT BECAME APPARENT IS WE DO NEED TO GET MORE CONNECTED IN THE COMMUNITY.

UH, WHEN I MET WITH THE JUDGE, UM, I GUESS IT'S MET A COUPLE WEEKS NOW.

WE MISSED THE COUNTY FAIR THAT WAS GOING ON.

SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT WHEN BEING HEADQUARTERED IN FORT WORTH, WE NEED TO GET, HAVE MORE OF A LOCAL PRESENCE AND BE, UM, AVAILABLE AT THOSE TYPES OF, UM, EVENTS.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE DEFINITELY WANT TO DO.

AND MAYBE EVEN LOOK AT ADVERTISING AND LOCAL PAPERS IN ADDITION TO THE SOCIAL MEDIA, UM, TYPES OF THINGS.

UM, WE HAVE DONE AN ADOPTION EVENT AT ONE OF THE NEW HOUSING SUBDIVISIONS.

THEY REACHED OUT TO US.

I DID NOT WRITE DOWN THE NAME OF IT, BUT THOSE ARE TYPES OF THINGS THAT WE'RE OPEN TO.

AND WHEN I MET WITH THE JUDGE, SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT LIKE AT WOODS AND MAYBE WALMART OR TRACTOR SUPPLY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE, WE TENDED TO GO TO PETMARTS AND PETCOS.

THEY GIVE US GRANTS FOR THE NUMBER OF ADOPTIONS, BUT WHATEVER'S GONNA GET THE PET SCENE IS REALLY WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR, IS TO GET THE PETS ADOPTED.

SO WE'LL LOOK AT AND GET AND, UM, TAKE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY ON WHAT ARE THE MOST PRO APPROPRIATE PLACES FOR, UM, HAVING PETS AVAILABLE.

ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT OPERATIONS BEFORE I MOVE INTO THE FUND? FINANCIAL THINGS? SO, UH, I HAD A QUESTION FOR YOU.

SURE.

UH, I WAS SPEAKING WITH THE LADY I KNOW THAT'S HEAVILY INVOLVED IN, SHE'S WORKED FOR SOME OF THE HUMANE SOCIETIES AND STUFF.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS, UH, IS LIKE ON THE ADOPTION PROCESS, WHAT IS Y'ALL'S PROTOCOL FOR, LIKE THE ANIMALS THAT YOU CAN'T GET ADOPTED, YOU KNOW, UH, AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE LIKE, MOST PEOPLE WANT SMALL ANIMALS LIKE DOGS, PUPPIES.

MM-HMM.

.

MM-HMM.

.

BUT THE LARGER DOGS THAT CAN'T BE, UH, ADOPTED, WHAT IS, HOW, WHAT, HOW DO YOU HANDLE THAT? WE JUST ADVERTISE AND LAST YEAR THERE WAS AN ABUNDANCE OF LARGE DOGS.

WE, WE HAD BEEN TRANSPORTING 'EM OUT OF THE AREA WHEN, AT THE TIME WE BID ON THIS CONTRACT EVERY OTHER WEEK WE WERE GETTING A FLIGHT OUT OF THE AREA AND LARGE DOGS WERE GOING OUT CUZ THERE WAS A SHORTAGE, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IN THE NORTH AND MIDWEST AND NORTHWEST.

THAT'S STOPPED NOW.

SO 97% LIVE RELEASE RATE JUST SAYS WE KEEP THEM UNTIL THEY GET ADOPTED.

THE ONLY ONES WE EUTHANIZE ARE FOR MEDICAL REASONS OR IF THEY'RE, UH, SEVERE BEHAVIOR RISK.

SO ALL LARGE

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DOGS THAT I AGREE WITH YOU, SMALL DOGS AND PUPPIES JUST GET ADOPTED QUICKLY.

WE KEEP A LARGE DOG.

WE'VE HAD SOME THAT WERE IN OUR CARE FOR OVER A YEAR AND WE CELEBRATE THEIR ADOPTION IN A, IN A POST WHEN THEY GET ADOPTED.

SO WE DON'T, UH, WE'LL LOOK FOR A TRANSFER IF THEY'RE LIKE A BREED SPECIFIC.

SOME.

AND WHEN YOU SAY TRANSFER, WHAT DO YOU MEAN TO ANOTHER RESCUE GROUP? THAT'S ALL.

ALL RIGHT.

LIKE I SAID, WHICH RESCUE GROUPS DO YOU GUYS USE THAT WOULD, WE'D LOOK AT? UM, WE'RE OPEN TO ANY, SO IF THERE'S SOME A RESCUE GROUP THAT WOULD LIKE TO PARTNER WITH US, UM, JUST THEY CAN PASS MY NAME ON OR LOOK US UP ON THE WEBSITE, WE'D BE HAPPY TO PARTNER WITH ANY RESCUE GROUP.

BUT GENERALLY THEY TEND TO BE BREED SPECIFIC GROUPS LIKE A GERMAN SHEPHERD RESCUE OR A DO UH, UM, GOLDEN RETRIEVER RESCUE.

BUT, UM, AND THEN THERE'S SOME THAT WILL TAKE, THEY TAKE ON MEDICAL CASES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

VERY FEW OBVIOUSLY CUZ THEY'RE COST INVOLVED WITH THEM, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL PARTNER WITH ANYONE TO UM, UH, IF THEY, IF THEY'RE WILLING TO TAKE ANY OF OUR PETS.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE DEFINITELY OPEN TO THAT.

BUT TRANSPORT OUT HAD BEEN OUR MAIN WAY OF GETTING THE OVERSUPPLY OR OR ALLEVIATING THE OVERSUPPLY OF PETS IN, IN DALLAS FORT WORTH IN GENERAL, NOT JUST KAUFMAN COUNTY.

AND THAT SHUT DOWN AND OBVIOUS AND WE JUST GOT WORRIED ABOUT, UH, THREE WEEKS AGO THAT THE A S P C A HAS SHUT DOWN ALL TRANSPORT OF DOGS JUST BECAUSE OF RIGHT NOW THE CANINE INFLUENZA, DISTEMPER AND PARVO IN TEXAS.

SO IT'LL COME BACK.

BUT JUST FOR RIGHT NOW, WE JUST MOVE THEM, KEEP 'EM.

UM, WE GAVE, WE HAD DOGS AT LARGE DOGS OVER, WE HAD A, WE HAD A PROMOTION LAST YEAR.

LARGE DOGS OVER 30 WERE FREE FOR MOST OF LAST YEAR THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER.

WE HAD, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ABOUT 730 PETS IN OUR CARE IN TOTAL.

UH, AND INCLUDING THE 90 SOMETHING THAT ARE AT THIS FACILITY.

AT OUR PEAK IN JUNE OF LAST YEAR, WE HAD OVER 1300 PETS.

SO WE WERE LIKE DOUBLE THE PETS.

WE HAD 'EM IN EVERY NOOK AND CRANNY, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA EUTHANIZE 'EM JUST BECAUSE OF, UM, SPACE.

SO WE JUST HOLD THEM AND KEEP, TAKE CARE OF 'EM.

WE'LL DO THESE FOSTER PROGRAMS, GET PEOPLE TO TAKE THEM TO THEIR HOME, TRY TO ADOPT 'EM THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA? IT, IT MAKES SO MUCH DIFFERENCE TO SEE JUST A SHORT LITTLE VIDEO OF A PET IN A HOME RATHER THAN SEEING THE DOG BARKING BEHIND A KENNEL CAGE.

.

YEAH.

THEY, THEY LOOK LIKE THE PET.

YOU CAN, THE REASON I'M ASKING YOU THIS QUESTION, I DIDN'T KNOW, CAUSE I NOTICED, LIKE WHEN I WENT ON THE FACEBOOK PAGE THIS MORNING FOR READING NORTH YOUR MAIN WEBSITE IN THE COP COUNTY ONE, THERE'S LIKE MAYBE EIGHT CATS AND GUINEA PIG AND THE LITTLE SMALL DOG THAT'S LISTED ON THERE.

WELL IT'S BECAUSE IT'S ON HOLD BECAUSE OF THE CAN.

YES MA'AM.

BUT Y'ALL EVER, LIKE THE DOGS THE 70, THAT'S NOT UP FOR ADOPTION YET.

Y'ALL DON'T WANT TO POST THEM SO PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEY'RE THERE.

SO THAT MAY BE UM, THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

WE COULD, WE JUST DIDN'T WANT SOMEONE IN CASE THEY DIDN'T READ THE WEBSITE RIGHT.

TO SAY IT'S NOT AVAILABLE.

CUZ YOU, YOU GET A LOT OF FRUSTRATED PEOPLE SAYING I SAW IT.

BUT UM, THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

WE COULD LOOK AT THAT TO JUST SAY, SAY, YOU KNOW, COMING SOON OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YEAH, WE COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I'M JUST SAYING IT'D MAKE IT MORE, AT LEAST EVERYBODY WOULD KNOW THAT THE DOGS ARE THERE.

SO YES, THERE'S DEFINITELY DOGS THERE.

, I DON'T GET A QUESTION A BUT THE COMING SOON RIGHT ACROSS THE PICTURE.

YEAH, NO IT'S A GOOD, WE'D HAVE TO MAKE IT REALLY VISIBLE CAUSE YOU COULDN'T JUST MAKE IT, THAT'S WHAT SAYING SETTLE ON A BANNER SO THEY'RE STARING AT IT.

THEY CAN'T MISS IT.

YEAH.

YEAH.

NO THAT'S A, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT CUZ AND ESPECIALLY THIS WEEK CUZ WE THINK MOST OF THEM ARE GONNA CLEAR FROM THE CANINE INFLUENZA HOLD, LIKE I SAID, DOESN'T MEAN THEY HAD IT, BUT, UH, JUST AS A PRECAUTION.

CAUSE WE DON'T WANNA LET THAT OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY.

THAT'S A GREAT SUGGESTION.

OKAY.

AND THEN, UH, I'M SORRY, I GOT LIKE NO, GO AHEAD.

QUESTIONS.

SO YOU, YOU WANT ME TO WAIT, ASK ANOTHER QUESTION? GO AHEAD AND FINISH.

YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

WHAT IS Y'ALLS PROTOCOL ON VISITORS VISITING THE CENTER AND GETTING TO LOOK AT THE DOGS? I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT IS THE GENERAL PROTOCOL FOR THAT? I BELIEVE WE'RE OPEN FROM 12 TO SIX, I BELIEVE.

AND SO ANYTIME DURING THAT TIME, I MEAN, ARE THEY FREE TO WALK AROUND? OH YEAH.

UHHUH .

UHHUH .

OKAY.

AND HOW DOES THAT NORMALLY SAY? BECAUSE THE REASON I SAY THAT IS I HAD TO LADY, I KNOW IT WENT IN THERE AND SHE SAID, I GUESS WHEN SHE WENT TO THE BACK TO LOOK AT THE DOGS UHHUH, THERE'S TWO LAYERS OF PLEXIGLAS OR GLASS UHHUH BETWEEN THE VISITORS TO THE DOG SECTION AND THE DOGS UHHUH.

AND THAT THERE WAS A PIT BULL IN THE KENNEL, UHHUH .

AND SHE SAID THE PIT BULL HAD THIS LITTLE KNOB WAGON AND, BUT SHE SAID I WOULD SPEAK TO THE DOG BUT THE DOG COULDN'T HEAR HER CAUSE IT'S BEHIND TWO LAYERS OF GLASS.

SO OF COURSE THE STAFF THERE IS LIKE, HEY, WE, YOU KNOW, JUST FOR YOUR SAFETY, WE CAN'T LET YOU GET CLOSE.

BUT HER, HER EXPRESSION WAS, THIS DOG WAS GONNA BECOME PART OF MY FAMILY AND YEAH, I, I CAN'T GET TO KNOW THAT DOG IF THERE'S TWO LAYERS OF GLASS BETWEEN MYSELF AND I'M JUST ASKING, I DIDN'T KNOW.

WE HAVE MEET AND AREAS IN THE FACILITY SO THEY COULD DO THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THE PERSON CAME WHILE WE HAD THE DOGS ON HOLD BECAUSE OF THE CANINE INFLUENZA, SO THEY WEREN'T ALLOWING PEOPLE TO INTERACT WITH THEM.

BUT THERE ARE MEET AND GREET.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF DEFINITELY NOBODY CAN DO ONE-ON-ONE WITH THE DOGS OR HAVE THAT.

SURE.

THERE THEY CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT.

WE HAVE PLAY YARDS SO THEY COULD GO.

UM, OKAY.

GENERALLY IT'S MORE OF A MEET AND GREET FIRST, BUT THEY COULD GO, I, I SAY THIS BUT I DON'T, I THINK THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO GO OUT INTO, AND, YOU KNOW, CUZ YOU WANNA INTERACT AND WE GENERALLY, UH, IF YOU HAVE A PET AT HOME, ASK YOU TO BRING

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IT SO YOU KNOW IF THE PETS GET ALONG TOO.

SO IN A CONTROLLED ENVIRONMENT, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T JUST LET 'EM RUN LOOSE IN A PLACE TOGETHER.

BUT YEAH, SO WE DEFINITELY HAVE, UM, ALLOWANCES FOR THAT.

BUT THE PERSON MAY HAVE COME WHEN WE HAD THE HOLD SO THEY WEREN'T ALLOWING PEOPLE TO INTERACT WITH IT JUST BECAUSE OF THE, AND THEN THIS IS JUST QUESTIONS THAT WAS ASKED ME CONCERNS.

SURE, SURE.

UH, THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP TO MY ATTENTION, UH, WAS THAT WHEN SHE WAS IN THE BACK WHERE THE DOGS WERE, THAT I GUESS THE LIGHTS WERE ON THE SENSOR THAT UHHUH WHEN THEY WENT BACK, THE LIGHTS COME ON AND SHE SAID WHY SHE'S BACK THERE LOOKING AT THE DOGS THAT THE LIGHTS GO OFF AND THE DOGS ARE SITTING BACK THERE IN THE DARK.

THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT SHE WAS CONCERNED WITH.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT'S OKAY.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S PART OF THE, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S SET UP, SO I JUST WANTED TO ASK THAT.

BUT, UM, THAT ONE I DON'T KNOW, BUT I CAN LOOK AT THAT.

I KNOW IN OUR MAIN FACILITY IN FORT WORTH WORTH, WE HAVE TWO LARGE DOG HOLDING AREAS THAT ONCE THE DOGS COME IN, THEY GET VACCINATED AND BEFORE THEY GO OUT TO OTHER CENTERS, THEY'RE IN THESE LARGE ROOMS. THESE AREN'T AS NICE AS THIS FACILITY, BUT, UM, THE SOUND JUST ECHOES AND THINGS.

SO WE DO TEND TO LOWER THE, THE LIGHTING AND WE PUT JUST SORT OF BACKGROUND NOISE ON, UM, BACKGROUND MUSIC.

I MEAN, AM AND IT CALMS THEM FOR THAT.

BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'D NECESSARILY NEED THAT HERE.

BUT I'LL, I, I CAN FOLLOW UP ON THAT.

I'LL JUST ASK.

I DIDN'T KNOW HOW Y'ALL HAD THAT, DON'T WHAT STRUCTURE WAS ON THAT? SO CAN'T DEFINITIVELY SAY ON THAT ONE THOUGH.

BUT I'LL FOLLOW UP.

I'LL, I'LL QUIT ASKING .

YEAH, GO AHEAD.

I GOT A FEW QUESTIONS.

SURE.

UM, YOU SAY WE CURRENTLY HAVE ABOUT 90, UH, ANIMALS AT THIS FACILITY.

YEAH.

MM-HMM.

, UM, WHAT WAS THIS FACILITY DESIGNED TO HOLD? I DON'T ACTUALLY, NO, WE HAD 180 IN THIS FACILITY IN AUGUST AND THAT WOULD'VE BEEN KENNELS IN POPUP KENNELS IN THE HALLWAYS THEN.

SO THAT'S 180 S TOO MUCH.

UM, I, I, UH, I HAVE THE MAP.

I CAN, I COULD GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT.

UM, BECAUSE I HAVE ALL THE DIFFERENT 66 DOGS, 66, UM, I'LL HAVE TO CHECK AND SEE.

THERE'S VARIOUS COMPONENTS.

SO THERE'S LIKE STRAY HOLD ONES, THEN THERE'S ADOPTION ONES, THERE'S SMALL DOG, THERE'S ISO ONES RIGHT NOW, WHEN WE HAD TOO MANY, WE WERE USING LIKE ALL OF 'EM ON HOLD AND UM, THERE'S, SO IF YOU JUST LOOKED AT THE TOTAL CAPACITY OF IF YOU USED EVERY KENNEL, NOT NECESSARILY FOR THE NAME, IT WAS FOR CUZ LIKE THE QUARANTINE AND ISO, I THINK WE HAD HEALTHY DOGS IN ISOLATION KENNELS AT THE BEGINNING BE JUST BECAUSE WE NEEDED A SPACE FOR 'EM.

SO, BUT I DON'T KNOW THE, WE HAVE THE CONTRACT AND IT ACTUALLY HAS, WELL, UH, ANOTHER THING, UM, I'VE RECEIVED SOME, UH, COMPLAINTS I GUESS, OR INFORMATION THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES WHEN Y'ALL COULDN'T ACCEPT DOGS FROM KAUFMAN COUNTY, RIGHT? CAUSE THERE WERE DOGS IN THERE FROM OTHER LOCATIONS THAT WERE TAKEN OUT SPACE.

THE ONLY OTHER DOGS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE WOULD'VE BEEN FROM MAYBANK OR FROM AN OWNER'S SURRENDER.

OKAY.

SEE, SO THERE'S, IN THOSE CASES WHEN WE CAN'T UHHUH PUT 'EM IN THERE, WE'RE STILL HAVING TO SEND 'EM DOWN TO THE FACILITY THAT WE USED TO USE, I GUESS CEDAR CREEK, WHEREVER THAT IS DOWN THERE.

UHHUH, .

DO YOU HAVE ANY NUMBERS ON HOW MANY TIMES WE'VE HAD TO DO THAT AND WHAT THAT'S COST? NO, I COULDN'T TELL YOU THAT.

BUT I WILL SAY PART OF WHAT I WANNA TALK TO YOU ABOUT IN THE NEXT SIDE IS THIS HAS TURNED OUT VERY DIFFERENT THAN, THAN THE TWO OTHER CONTRACTS WE HAVE AT KELLER WAS THE FIRST ONE THAT WE HAD.

AND THEN WE HAVE HEARST THAT STARTED A MONTH BEFORE THIS.

THEY BOTH HAVE, KELLER HAS, UM, TAKES IN ABOUT 400 PETS AND WE ADOPT OUT ABOUT 1500 PETS THERE.

SO IT'S AN OUTFLOW FOR US.

HUST IS PRETTY MUCH BALANCED.

WE TOOK IN 600, WE ADOPTED 800 PETS OUT THERE.

HERE IT'S THE REVERSE.

WE TOOK IN, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN 1700 PETS AND ADOPTED 800.

SO IT WAS TOTALLY DIFFERENT TO US OPERATIONALLY THAN WHAT WE HAD ANTICIPATED.

DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T RESPOND TO IT.

SO PART OF WHAT I WANNA TALK TO YOU ABOUT IS NOW, NOW WE ARE CHANGING OUR MODEL AND WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THIS AS OUR PRIMARY DOG INTAKE.

WE TAKE DOGS IN IN FORT WORTH, BUT I DON'T HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THE CITY OF FORT WORTH.

SO WE'RE RESTRICTING DOG INTAKE THERE.

WE'LL STILL TAKE IN CATS AND THINGS THERE.

AND WE ARE GONNA USE THIS AS THE PRIMARY, UM, DOG INTAKE.

UM, I'VE ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO OTHER, TO BOTH TERRI, BOTH TO TERRILL KAUFMAN AND C CRANDALL TO SEE IF THEY'D BE INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING IN THIS, WHICH EXACERBATES THE PROBLEM THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TRANSPORTS THREE TIMES A WEEK TAKING DOGS OUT OF HERE.

BACK TO FORT WORTH.

WE WEREN'T DOING THAT ORIGINALLY BECAUSE LAST YEAR THERE WAS JUST A, AN OVERSUPPLY OF DOGS EVERYWHERE.

LIKE I SAID, TRANSPORTS WERE THERE.

WE HAD, LIKE I SAID, MORE DOGS IN OUR CAPACITY.

WE WERE JUST KEEPING 'EM WHEREVER WE COULD.

AND WE KIND OF RAN OUTTA SPACE IN THE MIDDLE OF LAST YEAR NOW, AND WE WEREN'T RESTRICTING OUR INTAKE IN FORT WORTH.

NOW WE'RE PLANNING TO RESTRICT THE INTAKE IN FORT WORTH.

THIS IS GONNA BE THE PRIMARY SOURCE OF DOG INTAKE.

SO WE COULD TAKE IT IN AND KEEP MOVING THEM BACK TO FORT WORTH.

WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT OPERATIONALLY SET UP LAST YEAR.

WE MAYBE WENT ONCE A WEEK, UH, BACK TO FORT WORTH.

BUT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT TAKING THREE, THREE TRIPS A WEEK BACK TO FORT WORTH.

SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ALLEVIATE THE CONCERNS.

IN FACT, I'VE HEARD THE CONCERNS TOO, ABOUT PEOPLE

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ON THE OWNER SURRENDER AND STRAY SIDE.

I THINK WE DO HAVE TO HAVE DISCUSSION ABOUT STRAY POPULATION AND WE CAN SERVE MAYBE, UH, UM, HOLD THAT TILL THE ADVISORY COUNCIL AND SOME OTHER THINGS IF YOU'D LIKE.

BUT THAT'S THE ONE THING, LIKE OWNER SURRENDERS, WE TAKE THOSE IN, UM, AND WE'D LIKE, WE TAKE 'EM IN IN THE FRONT.

UM, UH, FORT WORTH, UH, CHARGE A FEE FOR THAT BECAUSE THERE'S VACCINATIONS AND IF THEY'RE NOT ALTERED, THEY HAVE TO BE ALTERED AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, BUT THE STRAYS ARE A DIFFERENT KIND OF THING THAT'S KIND OF AN ANIMAL CONTROL ISSUE.

BUT WE'RE OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS ON IT.

BUT THE MAIN MESSAGE IS WE PLAN TO MOVE DOGS OUT OF HERE THREE TIMES A WEEK COMPARED TO ONCE A WEEK LAST YEAR.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT RESOLVES SOME OF THE PROBLEM.

THERE'S NO GUARANTEE ON WHAT, HOW MANY DOGS ARE GONNA SHOW UP NEXT WEEK, BUT, BUT WE WANNA BE MORE PREPARED THAN WE WERE LAST YEAR.

WELL IF, IF Y'ALL ARE NOT KEEPING UP WITH THE NUMBER OF TIMES THAT WE'VE HAD TO TURN AWAY DOGS FROM KAUFFMAN COUNTY BECAUSE THEY WERE, THE FACILITY WAS FULL UHHUH , I THINK THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT.

OKAY.

AND SEE THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM THERE.

YEAH.

UH, BECAUSE I, I'D BE VERY INTERESTED IN IT CUZ IF FOR OR FOR THIS MODEL WILL WORK FOR US, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE TOTAL SUPPLY OF DOGS IS.

WELL, I THINK WITH ME AND, AND SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW, INQUIRED WITH ME ABOUT IT IS, YOU KNOW, I I UNDERSTOOD THIS WAS GONNA BE A KAUFMAN COUNTY FACILITY.

MM-HMM.

, BUT APPARENTLY IT'S NOT.

WE'RE TAKING IN DOGS FROM EVERYWHERE, BUT WE, THE ONLY DOGS WE TOOK IN, OH, YOU'RE TRANSFERRING DOGS IN AND OUT, WHICH IS TAKEN UP SPACE IN OUR FACILITY.

IS THAT CORRECT? NO, NO.

THE, THERE'S, WHEN THE NUMBERS I GAVE YOU, WE TOOK IN AND IT, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, IS BY MISTAKE.

THERE WERE 16 DOGS THAT CAME IN.

IT WAS A LITTER OF PUPPIES THAT ACTUALLY NEVER WENT IN THE FACILITY, WENT INTO FOSTER.

WE TOOK IN TWO THAT CEDAR CREEK HAD.

UM, WE HAVE A POLICY THAT IF OUR, ONE OF OUR DOGS THAT'S CHIPPED TO US SHOWS UP AT ANOTHER SHELTER, WE'LL TAKE IT BACK.

UM, AND SO THERE WERE SOME THAT WENT TO CEDAR CREEK, BUT IT WAS ONLY A HANDFUL.

SO THE TRANSFER INS, THERE WERE 14 DOGS LAST YEAR.

THERE, THERE THEORETICALLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN ZERO.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WE, WE TRANSFERRED IN SOME CATS BECAUSE WE HAD NO CATS IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR, WE DON'T TRANSFER IN DOGS.

WHERE DID THAT COME FROM? THE CAT? PARDON? PARDON? WHERE DID THE CATS COME FROM? UH, I THINK WE DID, WE PARTNERED WITH MESQUITE AND TOOK IN SOME FROM THERE.

AND I DON'T REMEMBER THE OTHER PLACE.

WE TRANSFERRED IN SOME OF OUR CATS, BUT, BUT WE DID NOT TRANSFER IN OUR DOGS HERE.

OKAY.

SO AS OF TODAY, AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE ANIMALS IN THAT FACILITY ARE KAUFMAN COUNTY ANIMALS? A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE DOGS FOR SURE.

AND SHOULD BE MOST OF THE CATS, I THINK THE GUINEA PIG THAT'S THERE, WE BROUGHT IN DON'T FOR A HAVE PIG FOR A WHILE, HAVEN'T YOU? SEEMS LIKE IT'S BEEN ON THE, BUT WE PROBABLY SWITCHED 'EM OUT.

WE, THERE'S RABBIT, WE'VE BROUGHT IN RABBITS AND ACTUALLY WE'VE TAKEN IN A COUPLE OF RABBITS HERE JUST FOR A LITTLE VARIETY.

OKAY.

THAT'S ALL .

THERE, THERE, THERE'S A HANDFUL OF THOSE.

BUT WE DID NOT TRANSFER IN DOGS OTHER THAN YOU SEE 14 ON THE LUMBER THAT I GAVE YOU.

AND THAT WAS A SURPRISE TO ME WHEN I MET WITH THE JUDGE, CUZ I'M LIKE, WE SHOULDN'T BE TRANSFERRING IN ANY DOGS.

THIS IS FOR KAUFMAN COUNTY.

AND I MAY BE READING THIS WRONG, BUT I NOTICED ON THE, THE FORM THAT YOU'D SEND US HERE, IT SAYS TRANSFER OUT 11.

YEAH, ABOUT 10 DOGS AND THEN ZERO CATS AND ONE THE TRANSFER OUT IS THOSE COMING BACK TO OUR FACILITY.

OKAY.

THEN THE TRANSFER, TOTAL INTAKE AT THE BOTTOM LEFT THERE WAS LIKE, UM, 1400, I'M SORRY, LEMME GO UP TRANSFER IN ABOVE THAT IS 14 BETWEEN SOMETHING IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER.

IT SAYS TRANS TWO TRANSFER TWO FROM OTHER HSTS LIKE 884.

SO, SO THOSE, THOSE, THOSE WERE 736 DOGS THAT CAME IN HERE FROM KAUFMAN COUNTY THAT WE TOOK TO OTHER LOCATIONS AND ADOPTED THEM AT OTHER HS AND T LOCATIONS.

THERE WERE 200 EXTRA CATS THAT CAME IN FROM HERE.

MOST OF THE OWNER SURRENDERS WERE CATS.

THERE WERE 400 OWNER SURRENDER CATS.

UM, AND SO THOSE 200 CATS CAME OUT.

THEY MAY HAVE GONE TO, SOME OF 'EM WENT PROBABLY TO THE PETCO IN TARELL, BUT THE MAJORITY OF 'EM WENT BACK TO OUR FACILITIES.

THEN THE 52 ARE THE RANDOM RABBIT HAMSTER GUINEA PIG THAT, UH, I THINK WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF BIRDS JUST TO ADD A LITTLE VARIETY OF WHAT'S THERE, UM, AVAILABLE FOR ADOPTION.

BUT, UM, NO, THE, IT'S, WE DID NOT TRANSFER IN OTHER THAN THE 14 BY MISTAKE ANY DOGS FROM OUR FACILITIES.

I SAID IT'S COUNTER TO WHAT WE DO IN HURST AND KELLER, BECAUSE KELLER, THEY ONLY TAKE IN LIKE FOUR OR 500 DOGS, BUT WE'VE ADOPTED 1500 DOGS OUT.

SO THOSE ARE ONES WE GENERALLY TOOK IN SOME FROM HERE, SOME FROM OUR FORT WORTH FACILITY THAT WE TOOK TO KELLER AND THEY GOT ADOPTED.

SO THEY'RE JUST BEING SEEN BY A DIFFERENT POPULATION.

BUT NOW WE, WE KNOW THIS IS BUILT PRIMARILY FOR THE DOG POPULATION IN KAUFMAN COUNTY AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S INTENDED FOR.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, OUR, UH, FIRE MARSHAL SLASH ANIMAL CONTROL GUYS HERE, AND UH, UH, FATHER, I UNDERSTAND CRAIG, YOU REPORTED TO US FOR THAT.

YOU WERE TURNED AWAY OR TOLD THAT THERE WAS A SPACE.

HOW MANY TIMES HAS THAT HAPPENED THAT YOU'VE TRIED TO GET DOGS IN OVER THERE? LORD, YOU DON'T COME UP.

YES, SIR.

YEAH.

SO I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A TIME WHEN THIS TEMPER WAS GOING ON AT THE FACILITY, NOVEMBER, THAT WAS THE NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER LAST YEAR.

YEP.

SO THAT WAS THE BIG ONE WHERE WE WERE HAVING TO SEND DOGS TO OTHER FACILITIES.

SINCE THEN, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY MORE.

UM,

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WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO MAINTAIN COMMUNICATION WITH THEM BECAUSE WE, WHEN WE WALK IN THERE, WE SEE THAT, HEY, THIS LOOKS LIKE IT'S OVER CAPACITY.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH THEM.

HOW MANY SPOTS DO YOU HAVE AVAILABLE FOR US TO ACTUALLY BRING DOGS IN IT? MAYBE, HEY, I ONLY HAVE ROOM FOR EIGHT DOGS TODAY.

UM, AND SO WE TRY TO LIMIT HOW MANY WE'RE ACTUALLY PICKING UP TO BRING IN.

UM, JUST TRYING TO WORK TOGETHER ON THAT, THAT ASPECT.

OKAY.

LET ME ASK YOU THIS.

I HAD A LADY CAUGHT IN AND TALK TO ME AS WELL ABOUT, THERE WAS A 14 DAY DELAY ON OUR ANIMAL ANIMAL CONTROL PICKING ANIMALS UP.

MM-HMM.

TO HER, IT WAS EXPLAINED TO HER THAT THERE'S NO ROOM FOR US TO PUT THESE DOGS, SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO WAIT.

SO THEY HAVE THIS DOG KILLING THEIR CHICKENS JUST WEARING NEIGHBORHOOD OUT, BUT WE CAN'T, WE'RE HAVING A 14 DAY SPAN THERE TO PICK HIM UP.

IS THAT THE REASON, IS BECAUSE OF CAPACITIES? WHY Y'ALL NOT PICKING THEM UP OR WHAT? I MEAN, WHAT'S THE REASON BEHIND THAT? UH, SO A LOT OF, A LOT OF THE REASON IS ONLY HAVING ONE ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER ON DUTY AND WHEN HE TAKES OFF, UH, FOR MEDICAL REASONS OR FOR WHATEVER.

OKAY.

UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY TO DO THAT, THAT JOB.

UM, AND SO IT'S, IT MEANS WE'RE HAVING TO PULL AN INSPECTOR.

WE'RE HAVING TO PULL ME TO GO OUT THERE AND GET THE ANIMAL CONTROL TRUCK AND TRY TO CATCH UP.

AND OF COURSE HE'S DOING THIS ALL DAY LONG.

HE'S GOT THE JOB DOWN, UH, PUTTING US IN THAT TRUCK AND TRYING TO GO DO IT.

UH, WE'RE DEFINITELY SLOWER THAN HE IS .

UM, BUT YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE GET BEHIND ON THINGS.

HE DOES A GREAT JOB WHEN HE COMES BACK, GETS CAUGHT BACK UP AND BRINGS THAT NUMBER BACK DOWN.

WE WERE DOWN TO ABOUT A FOUR DAY TURNAROUND TIME, UH, AFTER HE CAME BACK FROM THE JANUARY TIME HE WAS OUT.

BUT, UH, WE JUST, WE JUST NEED MORE ACOS IS WHAT THE DEAL IS.

MM-HMM.

.

YEP.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT LATER.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THANKS PAUL.

APPRECIATE IT.

BUT, AND LIKE I SAID, NOW GOING FORWARD IN THIS DISCUSSION, WE'RE GONNA MOVE, TRY AND MOVE THREE TIMES A WEEK.

PETS, ESPECIALLY DOGS OUT OF HERE INTO UM, BACK TO OUR OTHER FACILITIES CUZ WE'RE GONNA REDUCE THE INTAKE OF DOGS, ESPECIALLY LARGE DOGS.

THAT'S THE BIG PROBLEM.

AS YOU POINTED OUT, UM, AT OUR FORT WORTH FACILITY, WE'RE UNDER CONTRACT WITH KELLER AND HER, SO WE TAKE IN WHATEVER THEY HAVE TOO.

AND DURING DISTEMPER THEY WERE HAD TO SHUT DOWN BECAUSE AGAIN, THAT'S A DEADLY DISEASE.

WE DIDN'T WANT THAT SPREAD ANYWHERE.

WE'RE, UM, PAST THAT NOW, BUT THAT'S, WE JUST HAD TO LOOK AT THERE.

I MEAN, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, THERE'S A GOOD VARIETY OF DOGS THAT COME HERE.

IT'S NOT ALL PITBULLS THAT COME IN HERE.

UM, SO THERE'S A GOOD VARIETY OF DOGS.

THERE ARE MORE LARGE DOGS THAN SMALLER DOGS, BUT THAT'S KIND OF ACROSS THE BOARD WHEREVER YOU ARE.

UM, BUT PUPPIES, PUPPIES THAT COME IN HERE WILL GET ADOPTED QUICKLY.

WE'LL TRY TO FIND FOSTERS AND THINGS FOR 'EM AND GET 'EM ADOPTED.

SO, SO WE ARE LOOKING AT CHANGING.

WE'RE AWARE OF THAT PROBLEM AND WE ARE LOOKING AT CHANGING.

OKAY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, UM, THE CURRENT, THE CONTRACT CALLS FOR $10,000 A MONTH MANAGEMENT FEE AND THEN A 20 SUMDER $2,600 A MONTH.

UH, BASICALLY IT'S JUST A REIMBURSED CLEANING SERVICE FEE WITH AHI.

I BELIEVE THAT'S THE SERVICE THAT'S USED AT THE COUNTY FACILITIES.

UM, LAST DECEMBER I CAME BEFORE YOU AND ASKED FOR A $15,000 A MONTH SUPPLEMENT TO GET THROUGH JANUARY, FEBRUARY, AND MARCH BECAUSE, UM, AS I HAD BACK UNATTACHED ON PAGE THREE, WE RAN, UM, OVER A $200,000 DEFICIT LAST YEAR THROUGH THE OPERATIONS.

IT WAS JUST, LIKE I SAID, THE REALITY, IT DIDN'T TURN OUT THE WAY WE EXPECTED WHEN WE WERE BUILDING A MODEL AND PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.

BUT LIKE I SAID, WE'RE, WE'RE ACHIEVING THE MAIN OBJECTIVE OF SAVING LIVES.

UM, I HAVE MY FINANCIALS ONLY THROUGH FEBRUARY.

I DON'T HAVE THE MARCH, BUT BASICALLY THAT EXTRA 15,000 IN ADDITION TO THE 10,000 WAS USED TO SUPPLEMENT THE OPERATING COSTS AND THE STAFFING COSTS WITH HAVING MORE PETS HERE THAN WE ANTICIPATED.

WE'VE HAD TO INCREASE MORE STAFF.

WE, UH, ANTICIPATED EIGHT OR NINE STAFF WHEN WE, UM, BID ON THIS CONTRACT.

AND LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE 11 OR 12 STAFF NOW TO TAKE CARE OF THE ANIMALS.

UH, AND AS I MENTIONED, I THINK IN DECEMBER, UM, AS I THINK MOST ORGANIZATIONS EXPERIENCED, OUR WAGES HAD TO INCREASE SIGNIFICANTLY.

LAST YEAR OUR WAGES WENT FROM, UH, LIKE $11 AN HOUR FOR THE ENTRY LEVEL KEN TECH TO 13 TO $14 AN HOUR.

SO THAT WAS AN INCREASE THAT WASN'T PLANNED ON IN THE FIRST YEAR OF OPERATION.

YOU KNOW, YOU FIGURE IT OVER TIME.

SO LIKE I SAID, WE WITH UM, AND I'VE TRIED TO, ON THAT PAGE WHERE I TALK ABOUT THE FINANCIALS, THE TOP PORTION IS ACTUALLY WE TRACK EVERYTHING.

WE HAVE A SEPARATE DEPARTMENT CODE FOR KAUFMAN.

SO THE NEGATIVE 300,000 IS WHAT JUST CAME IN AND OUT OF ON THE KAUFMAN, UM, LEDGER.

BUT BECAUSE WE TRANSFERRED, WHAT DO WE SAY, 700 DOGS OUT TO OTHER FACILITIES AND THEY GOT ADOPTED, I CAN'T TRACK EACH DOG INDIVIDUALLY.

BUT IF I JUST USED OUR AVERAGE ADOPTION FEES, WE TOOK IN ANOTHER A HUNDRED THOUSAND FROM THOSE PETS BEING ADOPTED AT ANOTHER LOCATION.

BUT WE HAD TO ALTER 'EM AND PAY FOR THE TRANSPORT COSTS OF, UH, SO LIKE I SAID, WE NETTED A FEW THOUSAND, YOU KNOW, 27,000 TO OFFSET SOME OF THAT LOSS WITH THE EXTRA $25,000 A MONTH IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY.

WE'VE HAD A $20,000 LOSS THROUGH THE TWO MONTHS.

UM, I'LL BE PERFECTLY HONEST WITH YOU, I'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO SIT BACK AND ASK YOU FOR ANOTHER $15,000 A MONTH, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN MY MEETING WITH THE JUDGE.

WHAT

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I'D LIKE TO DO, WHEN I SAID WHEN I MET WITH OUR TEAM AND WE'RE CHANGING OUR MODEL OF SAYING WE'LL TAKE IN ALL ANIMALS FROM HERE, REDUCE INTAKE OF DOGS AT FORT WORTH, PAY FOR TRANSPORT THREE TIMES A WEEK INSTEAD OF ONCE A WEEK.

WE THINK WE CAN GET THE PETS FROM HERE ADAPTED IN, UM, OTHER LOCATIONS OF OUR FACILITIES.

AND, BUT WE WOULD STILL NEED A $5,000 A MONTH SUPPLEMENT JUST MAINLY TO OFFSET THOSE WAGE INCREASES AND THE EXTRA, UM, UM, STAFFING THAT WE HAD.

AND SO THAT WOULD BE A $15,000 A MONTH.

UM, UH, LIKE I SAID, EXCLUDING THE, THE CLEANING CONTRACT FEE, WHICH I THINK IS PROBABLY MORE REASONABLE THAN WHAT I, UH, AS I MENTIONED, I'M SPEAK SPEAKING WITH, UM, KAUFMAN.

I'M MEETING WITH THE TARELL POLICE CHIEF NEXT MONDAY AND I'VE, UM, COMMUNICATED WITH CRANDAL TO SEE IF THEY'RE INTERESTED BECAUSE THEN WE WOULD CHARGE THEM A FEE LIKE WE CHARGE MAYBANK AND THAT WOULD SUPPLEMENT SOME OF THE INCOME.

SO WE'RE NOT TOTALLY DEPENDENT ON THE COUNTY FOR OUR FUNDS.

UM, IF WE DO THAT SAME THING, BUT WE'RE, WE BELIEVE, AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE ALL THE NUMBERS FROM EVERYBODY.

WE, WE NOW HAVE A GOOD RUN RATE ON WHAT THE, AND I CAN GET THE NUMBERS FROM, UM, FROM PAUL ON WHAT ANIMALS GOT DIVERTED ELSEWHERE.

CUZ THAT NEEDS TO BE PUT BACK INTO THE CALCULATION TO LOOK AT HERE'S TOTAL INFLOW AND THEN WHERE'S THE OUTFLOW GOING TO OUR FOUR OTHER ADOPTION CENTERS AND COME UP WITH A FEE, UM, YOU KNOW, IN TIME FOR THE 20 23, 24 BUDGET FOR YOU.

UM, BUT WE WOULD ANTICIPATE SUPPLEMENTING FROM, UM, THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES IN THE COUNTY.

UH, AS ONE OF THE, UM, CITY MANAGERS MENTIONED TO ME, IT'S A LONG DRIVE TO CEDAR CREEK LAKE AND SO WHOEVER MAKES THAT TRIP AND PAUL CAN PROBABLY SPEAK TO IT TOO, KINDA SHOOTS HALF THE DAY FOR YOUR PERSON WHEN THEY DO THAT.

SO HAVING THAT FACILITY HERE IN THE, HAVING THIS FACILITY HERE JUST MAKES IT BETTER FOR LIKE ALL THE, ALL THE DIFFERENT, UM, MUNICIPALITIES AND FOR THE UM, UM, FLOW OF ANIMALS TOO.

SO THAT'S THE GOAL THAT WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT.

BUT I DO NEED TO GET THE NUMBERS FROM THE OTHER PARTIES TO SEE WHAT THAT IS.

LIKE I SAID, I KNOW WHAT KAUFMAN COUNTY IS AND WE'RE JUST CHANGING OUR MODEL AND SAYING THIS IS PRIMARY DOG INTAKE FOR US.

OKAY.

I, YOU AND I HAD A GOOD VISIT.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

I THINK THE, THE OTHER DAY AND GOING OVER THE CONTRACT IS UHHUH SAYING YOU HAVE A COPY OBVIOUSLY.

YEP.

YEP.

I KNOW IN DECEMBER TWO COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETINGS TOWARD THE END WE MENTIONED ABOUT A BOARD FROM KAUFFMAN, RIGHT? YEP.

REPRESENTATIVES AND IT COST FOR FOUR PEOPLE.

MM-HMM.

, UH, AND I KNOW THAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE.

RIGHT.

UH, THE MONEY THAT IS GIVEN ORIGINALLY IT WAS NOT SET UP TO PAY FOR EMPLOYEES.

IT WAS THE 10,000 TO DO WITH AS YOU SO NEEDED.

UHHUH , WE PAY ALL THE MAINTENANCE AND WE'RE PAYING THE NOTE ON THE BUILDING RIGHT.

WITH OUR TAXPAYERS MONEY.

UHHUH.

AND, BUT I DON'T SEE ANY ACCOUNTABILITY OF WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING.

HOW ARE YOU SPENDING THE MONEY FROM OUR TAXPAYERS? WELL I THINK THAT'S, WE NEED AT LEAST A MONTHLY OR QUARTERLY OH SURE.

IF I CAN DO THAT REPORT.

YEAH.

CUZ WE HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE I COMPLETELY AGREE.

AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY UHHUH , WE DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER.

YEAH.

SO WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING, UH, IN WRITING.

AT LEAST I PREFER A MONTHLY SURE.

MONTHLY ACCOUNT.

SURE.

BUT POORLY WOULD WORK AND WHAT COMMISSIONER WOULD PREFER TO SEE, CUZ ALL OUR DEPARTMENTS HAVE TO REPORT MM-HMM.

MONTHLY WHAT THEY DO.

YEAH.

AND WE'D EXPECT THE SAME HERE.

NO, I HAVE NO PROBLEM.

IS THE FORMAT THAT I ATTACHED ON PAGE TWO OR PAGE THREE, UH, DETAILED ENOUGH? I I WOULD SAY IT NEEDS TO BE MORE DETAILED.

CAUSE I'M JUST USING, I I HAVE, I HAVE A, I MEAN I HAVE THIS, THIS IS WHAT MY P AND L LOOKS LIKE.

IT'S A FULL PAGE.

I CAN GIVE YOU THAT.

YEAH.

WELL WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS LIKE EACH ONE OF US, AND WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THE TAX DOLLARS WE SPEND, IT GOES TO PURCHASING OR AUDITOR.

I'M A FINANCE PERSON.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THIS REQUEST.

AND, AND EVERY PENNY IS DOCUMENTED WITH A RECEIPT WHERE THAT DOLLAR WENT AND, AND BEING THAT THE TAXPAYERS, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS ONE, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.

WHERE DID ALL THESE FUNDS GO AND EXACTLY.

AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, SO YEAH, I'D BE ASKING.

SURE.

PERSONALLY, I THINK IT SHOULD BE VERY DETAILED, BUT OKAY.

YEAH, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS THE WONDERFUL ALL OF LAST YEAR.

I THINK FOR, I WOULD SAY AT LEAST THE NEXT THREE TO SIX MONTHS, WE NEED TO DO IT MONTHLY.

SURE, SURE.

OKAY.

JUST KEEP A GOOD TRACK ON WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.

WE CLOSE OUR BOOKS AROUND THE KIND OF 13TH, 14TH, 15TH, SOMEWHERE IN THERE.

SO LIKE I COULD, AS LONG AS WE GET IT BY THE END OF THE MONTH THAT WE OH SURE.

THEN THAT'S NO PROBLEM.

WEEKS.

YEP.

OKAY.

YEP.

NOT A PROBLEM.

UH, AND I CAN GIVE YOU THE SAME KIND OF OPERATIONAL UPDATE TOO ON INFLOW OUTFLOW BY SPECIES IF THAT WORKS.

AND LIKE IF WE ADD OTHER MUNICIPALITIES IN THERE, WE'D HAVE A LINE JUST LIKE WE DID FOR MAYBANK, THAT'LL BE FINE.

SO, OKAY.

THAT'LL BE FINE.

NOW OF COURSE WE'RE ALREADY OVER BUDGET FOR THE YEAR.

I THAT'S AND OUR BUDGET.

THAT CLEAR? YOU MEAN THAT CLEAR? YOU'RE CLEAR THE OTHER DAY.

SO , BUT I ALSO KNOW I CAN'T OPERATE AT A $300,000 DEFICIT FOR A SECOND YEAR.

I DO.

SO I DO.

I THINK WE'RE ALL IN A I DO, LET ME ASK YOU THIS, UHHUH, UH, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE? LIKE

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CEDAR CREEK, UHHUH, , UH, YOU MAY, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S LINKED TO YOU GUYS OR NOT IF IT'S A SEPARATE ENTITY.

NO, BUT THEY'VE BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME.

MM-HMM.

, THEY'RE, THEY KEEP TAKING ANIMALS IN.

MM-HMM.

, HAVE Y'ALL PARTNERED WITH THEM? MAYBE ASK, HEY, HOW ARE YOU HANDLING THIS? CUZ THEY'RE USED TO HANDLING THE SITUATION THAT YOU'RE IN NOW.

HAVE Y'ALL REACHED OUT TO EMBASSY THEM? WE BOTH USED TO DO TRANSPORTS TOGETHER WITH IT.

WE BOTH PARTNER WITH THE AS P C ON THE TRANSPORTS.

BUT LIKE I SAID, THE AS PCA A HAS STOPPED THEIR TRANSPORTS.

UM, AND SO THAT WAS OUR, I GOTTA BELIEVE IT WAS THE MAIN OUTLET FOR THEM TOO.

UM, CUZ LIKE I SAID, WE'RE, WE'RE TAKING THESE ANIMALS BACK TO LARGER CITIES AND GETTING 'EM ADOPTED.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEIR OUTLETS ARE.

I I HAVE NO PROBLEM REACHING OUT TO, THEY REACHED OUT TO US AFTER WE GOT THIS CONTRACT AND UM, WE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS, BUT, UM, I'M, I'M HAPPY TO REACH OUT TO THEM.

AND THE REASON I'M SAYING IS THEY, THEY'VE BEEN DEALING WITH ALL THE LOCAL COUNTIES FOR YEARS ON HOW TO HANDLING THAT.

AND THAT MAY BE SOME HELP.

MAYBE THE STRUCTURE THAT, CAUSE I THINK READING THE CONTRACT MYSELF, WHEN THE, WHEN THE COUNTY PUT THIS INTO PLACE, IT WASN'T, IT WAS ROAD AS THE, WE PAY FOR THE FACILITY, UHHUH, , WE PAY FOR THE CLEANING MATERIALS, UHHUH , WE TAKE CARE OF LIKE OUR ANIMAL CONTROL GUY SIDE OF IT.

BUT REST OF IT WAS GONNA BE FUNDED BY YOU GUYS.

THE PAYROLL, THE OPERATING EXPENSES TO ADOPTIONS.

AND I'M JUST, UH, AND, AND I KNOW WHEN YOU SAID WE SENT THE DOGS TO DALLAS, WHEN THEY GET ADOPTED IN DALLAS, IS THAT CENTER THAT, ARE THEY GETTING PARTIAL THAT MONEY THAT WAS PAID FOR THE, NO, IF WE, IF WE MOVE IT TO SAY OUR FORT WORTH, WORTH LOCATION, THAT ALL COMES BACK INTO OUR, BUT YOU GET FULL RIGHT.

FUNDS AND STUFF.

YEAH.

THEY'RE ALL LIKE OUR LOCATIONS.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SO THAT'S WHY.

SO HOW IS, UH, WHEN YOU SET THIS MODEL UP, I'M ASSUMING YOU DID RIGHT? WELL THIS IS THE, THIS CONTRACT IS 90% THE SAME AS THE KELLER CONTRACT EXCEPT FOR THE FEE, THE FEE PORTION.

AND LIKE I SAID, IN THE KELLER CONTRACT, THEY TAKE IN 400 AND WE ADOPT 1500.

SO IT'S AN OUTLET FOR US TO, TO FIND HOMES FOR PETS THAT CAME IN AT FORT WORTH.

UM, THE HEARST CONTRACT'S SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT, BUT 90% OF THE WORDING IS ABOUT THE SAME.

I'M ON ALL THREE OF THOSE CONTRACTS.

WE'LL DO WHAT? LET'S DO WE, WE'LL TALK TO DOGS ALL DAY.

YEAH, I KNOW, BUT GO AHEAD AND FINISH YOUR PRESENT.

YEAH, WELL THAT'S ALL I WAS GONNA SAY.

OKAY.

WAS LOOKING AT THE $5,000 A MONTH MORE.

OKAY.

BECAUSE WE'VE GOT, UM, NO MATTER HOW WE LOOK AT IT, COST JUST INCREASED OVER WHAT WE HAD IN THE BUDGET.

AND LIKE I SAID, OUR MAIN, UM, ADJUSTMENT IS TO SAY WE'RE GONNA MOVE MORE DOGS OUT OF HERE SO YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO TAKE 'EM ELSEWHERE.

BUT WE STILL, LIKE I SAID, EVEN WITH THE, THE SUPPLEMENT THAT WAS IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY, WE STILL RAN OUTTA DEFICIT.

AND LIKE I SAID, I'VE GOT A ACCOUNT TO MY BOARD AND THINGS TOO.

SO WE WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE IN A BIND IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO, UH, OPERATE THROUGH THE, THE REMAINING NINE MONTHS OF THE CONTRACT.

SO THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS IN THE CONTRACT I WOULD LIKE TO VISIT WITH YOU SURE.

LATER SURE.

THAT ARE CONCERNS OF THE, OF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

UH, BUT, SO GUYS, IT'S UP UP TO YOU.

WHAT DO Y'ALL WANT TO DO? I'M STILL CARRY, WHERE DID THE 263 CATS COME FROM? WE DIDN'T TAKE 'EM IN WHAT, 263 CATS? WE ADOPTED OUT 263, BUT WE OH YOU, YEAH, WE ADOPTED OUT 2 63.

WE TOOK IN FOUR 13, WELL DOWN AT THE VERY BOTTOM.

RIGHT.

UM, WE TRANSFERRED 'EM BACK TO OTHER LOCATIONS IN OUR FACILITIES AND THEN GOT THE CATS ADOPTED.

YOU BROUGHT 'EM FROM OTHER NO, WE TOOK CATS THAT CAME IN HERE AND TOOK 'EM BACK TO UM, THE THREE OTHER LOCATION, FOUR OTHER LOCATIONS THAT WE HAVE.

SO WE ADOPTED 'EM ELSEWHERE.

SO WE ACTUALLY, ACTUALLY PEOPLE BROUGHT IN 261 CATS PEOPLE BROUGHT IN 413 CATS.

HUNDRED 13 CATS FROM COFFEE.

BUT ONLY 263 GOT ADOPTED HERE.

OKAY.

THE REST WENT BACK TO OUR OTHER FACILITIES WHEN TOOK CATS PRIOR TO YOU GUYS, THESE WERE OWNER SURRENDERS? NOT, NOT SURRENDERS.

STILL DIDN'T.

I KNOW, BUT OWNERS BROUGHT 'EM IN.

WELL I GO, WELL I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU THEN IN THE DESIGN OF THE FACILITY, I'M NOT SURE THEN WHY THERE WERE CAT KENNELS IN CAT ADOPTION CENTERS.

DON'T, BUT THAT'S WHY BECAUSE THEY'RE THERE.

THAT'S WHY WE TOOK THEM.

I'M JUST CURIOUS.

THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF CATS.

YEAH.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO WHERE ARE WE GUYS MAKE A DECISION? SOME MEAN EVERYBODY THAT BRINGS IN CAT PAYS A FEE AND EVERYBODY BRINGS IN A LONG PACE OF FEE FOR OWNER SURRENDERS.

YES.

OKAY.

I I IT'S $50, BUT THAT DOESN'T EVEN COVER THE COST OF SPAYING AND NEUTERING AND VACCINATIONS.

SO GO AHEAD.

I, I PERSONALLY THERE'S A LOT, I LIKE TO SEE THE REAL NUMBERS WHERE SURE.

I THINK WE NEED TO BE ACCOUNTABLE TO THE, THE TAXPAYERS FOR THAT.

SO I, I I WOULD SAY LET'S TABLE THIS FOR MAYBE A COUPLE WEEKS.

LET HER GET HER INFORMATION TOO SO WE HAVE MORE.

CAUSE I DON'T LIKE MAKING A DECISION JUST OKAY.

OFF OF GAS THAT I THINK THAT'D BE, I THINK I'D BE THE RIGHT BACK IN TWO WEEKS THEN.

SURE.

DOES THAT GIVE YOU ANOTHER TIME? MAYBE SOME SUGGESTIONS ON HOW ARE WE EITHER GONNA RAISE THAT FEE UP? I MEAN, BECAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY COST US THAT MUCH MONEY.

OKAY.

THEN, THEN MAYBE, MAYBE.

WELL LIKE I SAID, IF WE CAN GET MONEY FROM THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT SUPPLEMENTS WHAT YOU'RE

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HAVING, THE BOTTOM LINE IS IF PEOPLE WANT TO GIVE UP THEIR DOG, THEY NEED TO PAY FOR WHAT THE SERVICE COSTS FOR TO OH, OH, SO YOU'RE SAYING INCREASE THAT OWNER'S SURRENDER FEE.

OH, OKAY.

I I I MEAN I'M OPEN TO IT TOO, YOU KNOW, IF I'M SELLING CARS.

YEAH, YEAH.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I'M NOT SELL NO, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING EVERY DAY.

I MEAN, WE'RE DEFINITELY OPEN TO THAT.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I'M JUST JUST SAYING THAT IT STANDS A REASON THAT YEAH.

THAT UH, IF I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A DOG, I'M, I'M MORE THAN WILLING TO GIVE YOU A HUNDRED DOLLARS OR 200.

I GET IT.

IF, IF AND MAYBE WE COULD EVEN HAVE SOME KIND OF PROGRAM THAT ACTUALLY, ACTUALLY THAT WE CONTRIBUTED TO OVER HERE.

IF SOMEBODY CAME TO US AND SAID, LOOK, WE ALL LOST OUR JOBS AND WE NEED A DOG AND FELL OUT AN APPLICATION.

YEAH.

THEN SOMEONE SPONSORS PRESS SURRENDER.

YEAH.

WE HAVE SPONSORS.

YEAH.

OH, THAT'S GOOD.

SO I JUST, I JUST WANTED TO REMIND Y'ALL, IN DECEMBER OF 2022 MM-HMM.

, THE COURT VOTED TO GIVE JANUARY, FEBRUARY, MARCH AN ADDITIONAL 15,000.

SO IT'S NOT TWO MONTHS OF EXTRA 15,000, IT'S THREE MONTHS.

I ADJUSTED THE BUDGET BY $45,000.

SO, YOU KNOW, SHE'S ALREADY GOT THE UH, MARCH IS 15,000.

I ALREADY PAID IT.

OKAY.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

MM-HMM.

.

ALRIGHT.

YEAH.

I JUST DON'T HAVE MY MARCH BILL.

YOU'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO TABLE IT.

YEAH, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO TABLE IT AND, UH, SECOND, I'LL SECOND CHAIR.

SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? BUT IF THE TABLE, IF THE TABLE COMES BACK NEXT WEEK, BUT YOU'LL HAVE TWO WEEKS.

TWO WEEKS.

BUT WE'RE GOING TO SPECIFY TWO WEEKS.

SURE, SURE, SURE.

NO, I'LL GET YOU THE NUMBER.

SHE DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY JUST COME BACK SO WE TABLE IT, IT AUTOMAT COME BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING.

OH, SORRY.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M ADDRESSING AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY REMEMBER IN TWO WEEKS I'LL STILL ONLY HAVE FEBRUARY THANK YEAR TO DATE FEBRUARY.

BUT I CAN GIVE YOU THE DETAILED FINANCIAL YES, MA'AM.

SO NO PROBLEM.

ALL FAVOR.

THANK YOU.

AYE, MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

[4. Pam Corder/Susan Gulig; Discuss and consider creating an Advisory Committee/Board for the Kaufman County Pet Adoption Center, as required in Heath and Safety Code Title 10. Health and Safety of Animals, Chapter 823 Animal Shelters (Section 823.005).]

OKAY, MS. PAM.

SO I AM JUST HERE TO ASK AMBER, HOLD ON YOU.

I'M SORRY.

, LET ME READ THIS FOR YOU.

I DISCUSSED CONSIDER CREATING ADVISORY BOARD FOR THE KAEL COUNTY PET ADOPTION CENTERS REQUIRED BY THE STATE, UH, CODE TITLE 10 HEALTH AND SAFETY OF ANIMALS PLUS IT'S ALSO IN OUR CONTRACT.

MM-HMM.

AS TO BE FOUR MEMBERS TO THE BOARD.

RIGHT? YES.

AND IT IS, IT IS A MANDATE.

UM, IT IS A, UM, STATE MANDATED LAW THAT YOU DO THAT RIGHT.

FOR OUR COUNTY.

RIGHT.

SO, SO I'M JUST HERE TO ASK YOU, UM, CONSIDER DOING THAT.

WE DO DO HAVE A RESOLUTION, BUT I'VE REACHED OUT TO, TO YOU AND, UM, WE, WE JUST NEED TO DISCUSS, ARE YOU WANTING TO HAVE THIS ADVISORY BOARD WITH JUST WHAT THE STATE MANDATES? SO A LAWSON VETERINARIAN, A COUNTY OFFICIAL, A PERSON WHOSE DUTIES INCLUDE THE DAILY OPERATIONS OF THE ANIMAL SHELTER, AND A PERSON WHO REPRESENT, UH, REPRESENTED FROM THE ANIMAL WELFARE ORGANIZATION.

IS THAT WHAT YOU WANNA DO? JUST CHOOSE THOSE FOUR PEOPLE AT THIS TIME, OR WE CAN PUT IT ON HOLD AND, AND TALK ABOUT THAT.

WELL, ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAD, UH, I SPOKE WITH YOU ABOUT THIS WAS IS, UM, I THINK WE NEED TO STICK TO THE STATUTE GOING IF WE, WHEN WE, IF AND WHEN WE DO THAT, AT THAT POINT THAT THE FOUR PEOPLE WERE SIGNED BY STATUTE, SOMEBODY BROUGHT UP, EVERYBODY PICKED SOMEBODY.

AND, AND I THINK WE DON'T WANNA TURN THIS, THIS IS FOR THE ANIMALS.

THE, THE WAY THE BOARD SET UP, OR FROM WHAT I READ, IT'S ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THE WELFARE FOR THE ANIMALS.

IF I THINK IF YOU PUT MORE PEOPLE IN THERE BECOMES MORE OF A, UH, PROBABLY ARGUMENT STATE BECOMES A LOBBY.

AND I, I DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.

I IT AIN'T FOR THE PEOPLE, IT'S FOR THE ANIMALS.

SO I'D SAY WE KEEP TO THE STATUE.

WHAT I'D BE COMFORTABLE WITH.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THESE OTHER GUYS WOULD MM-HMM.

DO.

UM, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

YOU CAN, YOU CAN SLOW DOWN ON THAT.

WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

NOT ONE OF, I DON'T BELIEVE.

AND SO WITH THAT, WE WILL, UM, START WORKING ON BYLAWS AND, AND KIND OF COME UP WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT PERTAINING TO KAUFMAN COUNTY, UM, THAT IT DIDN'T GIVE AND THEY DIDN'T GIVE YOU ANYTHING FOR THAT.

UH, DEB, IS THERE SOMETHING YOU CAN HELP WITH ON BYLAWS? OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

NEED A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE THIS UP IN MOTION TO GET IT GOING.

YEAH.

MAKE A MOTION TO, MADE A MOTION TO COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

MR. BARBARA MAY SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY.

AND THEN I'LL BE IN CONTACT WITH YOU TO SEE WHO WE WANT TO PLACE IN THOSE POSITIONS.

OKAY? YES.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

NUMBER FIVE,

[5. Paul Ayres; Present quarterly update for the Fire Marshal's Office.]

PAUL AYERS PRESENT QUARTERLY UPDATE ON FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE.

ALL RIGHT.

GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING.

JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE ON, UH, THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE.

UM, KINDA GOING BACK TO WHEN I FIRST STARTED HERE LAST YEAR.

UH, RIGHT NOW ALL OF OUR FULL-TIME POSITIONS ARE FILLED, SO I'M VERY HAPPY ABOUT THAT.

.

UH, WE DO HAVE ONE PART-TIME POSITION THAT IS STILL OPEN.

WE'RE, UH, LOOKING THROUGH SOME CANDIDATES TO FIGURE OUT WHICH ONE WOULD BE THE RIGHT FIT FOR US.

UH, LAST YEAR FOR 2022, THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE HAD 1,267 CALLS

[00:50:01]

FOR SERVICE, UM, WHICH IS, UH, CONSISTENTLY THE THIRD OR FOURTH BUSIEST, UH, FIRE AGENCY IN KAUFMAN COUNTY.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE, OUR NUMBERS ARE RIGHT BEHIND KAUFMAN AND CRA FIRE DEPARTMENTS.

UM, WE'VE, UH, GONE OUT AND OF COURSE, NOT EVERY ONE OF THESE INVOLVES A CRIMINAL OFFENSE, BUT WE ALWAYS TRY TO GO WITH EDUCATION FIRST AND, AND EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY ON IF THEY ARE IN VIOLATION, UH, WHAT IT'S GONNA TAKE TO GET SOMETHING CORRECTED.

UM, IF, UH, IF IT'S NOT CORRECTED AFTER EDUCATION, THEN THAT'S WHEN WE STARTED DOING ENFORCEMENT.

SO WE DID WRITE, UH, 61 CITATIONS FOR, UH, VARIOUS CLASS C MISDEMEANORS.

UH, WE ALSO HAVE FILED FOUR CASES WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

THOSE ARE ALL GONNA BE THINGS THAT ARE HIGHER THAN CLASS C MISDEMEANORS.

UH, WE HAVE FOUR ARREST WARRANTS THAT ARE ACTIVE RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE TRYING TO LOCATE THOSE INDIVIDUALS.

AND, UH, WE'RE WORKING ON AN ADDITIONAL TWO RIGHT NOW.

UH, SO OUR, UH, LAW ENFORCEMENT ASPECT OF OUR OFFICE HAS DEFINITELY TAKEN, UH, A BIG LEAP FORWARD.

UM, UH, YOU KNOW, MIKE TAYLOR, OUR CHIEF INVESTIGATOR, HE'S DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB OF, OF HEADING ALL THAT UP AND, UM, MOVING THINGS FORWARD.

UH, ON THE INSPECTION SIDE, WE HAVE, UH, 67 ACTIVE BUILDING PERMITS RIGHT NOW, UH, WITH AN ADDITIONAL 59 ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION PERMITS.

CONSTRUCTION PERMIT IS GONNA BE FOR SOMETHING LIKE A FIRE PROTECTION SYSTEM.

UH, SO SOME OF THESE MIGHT BE, UH, KIND OF UNATTACHED AS, UH, TO THE BUILDING PERMIT, WHERE THE BUILDING PERMIT IS, THAT KIND OF UMBRELLA PROJECT.

UM, UH, THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE OUR FIRE AND LIFE SAFETY INSPECTIONS OR OPERATIONAL PERMITS.

UM, THINGS LIKE FOSTER HOME INSPECTIONS, FOOD TRUCK INSPECTIONS, SPECIAL EVENTS.

SO, UH, AS FAR AS PUBLIC EDUCATION, WE'VE ATTENDED SEVERAL COMMUNITY EVENTS.

UH, WE DID THE TERRELL CITY LIBRARY.

THEY HAD A SUMMER READING KICKOFF THING.

SO WE WENT THERE, TOOK THE CANINE, UH, KIDS, LOVED GETTING TO SEE THE DOG AND, UH, GETTING THEIR FIRE HATS.

WE'VE DONE SOME NATIONAL NIGHT OUT AND THEN ATTENDED SOME FIRE DEPARTMENT FUNDRAISERS.

UM, WE'VE DONE, UH, LOTS OF TRAINING.

WE HAVE OVER 60 HOURS OF ONLINE TRAINING, UH, OVER 116 HOURS OF IN-PERSON TRAINING GOING OUT TO DIFFERENT SITES.

UM, WE'VE ALSO IMPLEMENTED A MONTHLY IN-SERVICE TRAINING.

AND SO, LIKE FOR PEACE OFFICERS, IF WE NEED TO GO QUALIFY WITH OUR FIREARMS DURING THAT TIME, THAT'LL BE AN OPPORTUNITY.

WE'RE ALL GONNA MEET AND WE'RE GONNA TRAIN, UH, SAME THING FOR INSPECTIONS.

WE'LL GET EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM, GO OVER, UH, SOME CERTAIN TYPE OF INSPECTION, LIKE SOLAR PANELS WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF RIGHT NOW.

SO, UH, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THOSE SPECIFIC, UH, TYPES OF INSPECTIONS.

UH, WE ALSO PARTNERED WITH DISPATCH, HEATHER HALL AT DISPATCH HAD, UM, REQUESTED THAT WE COME IN AND TEACH A CLASS ABOUT FIRE DEPARTMENT OPERATIONS.

UH, SO WE WENT AND DID THAT.

GOT GREAT FEEDBACK, UM, TRYING TO HELP THEM UNDERSTAND WHAT, UH, WHAT ALL IS HAPPENING ON THE OTHER END OF THE RADIO, AND, UH, MAKING THINGS RUN A LITTLE BIT SMOOTHER.

UM, CERTIFICATION WISE, WE'VE HAD SOME UPGRADES.

UH, ONE OF OUR EMPLOYEES WAS UPGRADED TO AN ADVANCED INVESTIGATOR AND INTERMEDIATE INSPECTOR.

UH, I DID GET MY, UH, HEAD OF DEPARTMENT CERTIFICATION THROUGH TCF CFP.

AND THEN I ALSO JUST GOT MY PART 1 0 7 DRONE PILOT LICENSE.

SO WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING WITH EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND TRYING TO GET THEIR, THEIR DRONE OUT ON WILDFIRES, UH, ON OUR INVESTIGATIONS.

IF THERE'S MISSING PERSON SEARCHES, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE OUT THERE TO ASSIST AS WELL.

SO, UH, EQUIPMENT WISE, UH, WE'VE INVESTED IN A LOT OF EQUIPMENT JUST TRYING TO MAKE THEIR JOB A LITTLE BIT EASIER FOR BOTH INVESTIGATORS AND INSPECTORS.

UH, ONE THING THAT WAS REALLY BENEFICIAL, WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF GREAT FEEDBACK FROM FIRE DEPARTMENTS, IS THERMAL IMAGING CAMERAS.

UH, THEY HAVE THESE LITTLE PERSONAL HANDHELD THERMAL IMAGING CAMERAS THAT IF WE ARRIVE ON SCENE, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DOESN'T HAVE ACCESS TO ONE.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN HELP THEM OUT WITH.

UM, WE ARE LOOKING AT SAFETY ISSUES FOR OUR INVESTIGATORS AS WELL.

UM, IT'S WIDELY DOCUMENTED AT THIS POINT THAT FIRE INVESTIGATORS ARE GETTING CANCER FROM, UH, EXPOSURE TO SOOT AT THESE FIRE SCENES.

UH, SO WE'VE GOTTEN TYVEK SUITS, RESPIRATORS, NIT DIP GLOVES, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS TO TRY TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE PROTECTION FOR OUR INVESTIGATORS.

UH, THE BIG THING, THE BIG IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'VE MADE, I THINK, IS IN TECHNOLOGY.

UH, WE'VE GOTTEN IPADS FOR ALL OF OUR STAFF, AND WE'RE MOVING TO ALL PAPERLESS PLATFORMS. UH, OUR INSPECTION SOFTWARE IS CALLED SAFETY CULTURE.

UM, IT'S GREAT.

WE'RE ABLE TO GO TO AN INSPECTION, TAKE A PICTURE OF THE VIOLATION, IT'S TIMESTAMPED GEOLOCATION STAMPED, AND IT GIVES THE CUSTOMER AN EXACT IDEA OF WHAT THE VIOLATION IS.

UH, GOOD FOR DOCUMENTATION AS WELL.

UM, WE'RE, WE'VE ALSO IMPLEMENTED CLICK UP, UH, WHICH IS A PROJECT MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE.

UH, ALL EVERYTHING FROM INVESTIGATIONS FOR CASE MANAGEMENT TO INSPECTIONS, AND ALL OF OUR ACTIVE PROJECTS ARE GOING THROUGH THAT SYSTEM.

OUR OPEN RECORDS REQUEST, IF YOU GO TO OUR WEBSITE AND CLICK THAT LINK, IT TAKES YOU TO A FORM TO FILL OUT AND IT GETS DUMPED INTO THAT PROJECT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.

UH, SO WE'RE

[00:55:01]

TRYING TO FUNNEL EVERYTHING THROUGH THAT JUST TO KEEP TRACK OF, OF HOW WE'RE HANDLING THESE THINGS.

UM, ONE THING THAT YOU MIGHT NOTICE FOR COMMISSIONERS, WE SET UP AN AUTOMATIC EMAIL WHERE IF A NEW PROJECT COMES IN AND IT'S IN YOUR JURISDICTION, UH, THAT YOU'RE GONNA GET AN EMAIL NOTIFICATION ABOUT THAT NEW PROJECT.

UH, WE'VE DONE THE SAME THING FOR EACH OF THE CITIES.

IF A PROJECT COMES INTO AN ETJ, THE CITY RECEIVES NOTIFICATION AS WELL AS THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS.

UH, THAT WAY THEY CAN BE INVOLVED WITH PRE-PLANNING AND BEING PREPARED FOR RESPONSE TO THAT BUILDING.

UM, I DO WANNA GET THE WORD OUT THERE ABOUT THE WEBSITE, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A NEW PAGE ON THE WEBSITE FOR OUTDOOR BURNING.

UM, IT GIVES YOU A NICE BIG BANNER AT THE TOP TO SEE IF WE'RE UNDER A BURN BANNER OR NOT.

UH, AND THEN IT HAS A CHECKLIST TO RUN DOWN, UM, TO MAKE SURE IF YOU FOLLOW THAT CHECKLIST, YOU'RE GONNA BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL THE LAWS THAT WE'RE ENFORCING.

SO THAT'S GOOD.

UH, WE'RE GONNA BE SENDING OUT DOOR HANGERS WITH QR CODES.

IT'S EASY TO ACCESS THAT WEBSITE.

SO, THAT'S ALL I GOT.

ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, PAUL.

APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

NUMBER

[6. Tandi Smith; Discuss and Consider the Opportunity to participate in Texas Consortium of Counties EASE Grant Application in conjunction with the Defense Human Resources Activity Federal Voting Assistance Program (FVAP) and Electronic Absentee Systems for Elections (EASE) with funding under the Effective Absentee Systems for Elections (EASE) 3.0 Grant.]

SIX.

MS. TAN SMITH DISCUSS CONSIDERING THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN A TEXAS CONSORTIUM OF COUNTIES E GRANT APPLICATION IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE DEFENSE OF HUMAN SOURCES ACTIVITY, FEDERAL VOTING ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, AND ELECTRONIC ABSENTEE SYSTEMS FOR ELECTIONS WITH FUNDING UNDER THE EFFECTIVE ABSENTEE SYSTEMS FOR ELECTIONS GRANT.

THAT'S A LOT OF WORK.

IT IS A LOT OF WORDS.

WHAT IT MEANS IS THERE'S A DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE GRANT OUT THERE.

SOME COUNTIES HAVE GOTTEN TOGETHER AND TRIED TO GO IN TOGETHER ON THIS AS THE PARTICIPATION EFFORT TO SEE HOW IT'S GONNA INTER WORK.

UM, IT'S GONNA BE AT NO COST TO THE COUNTY.

WE ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR SUBMITTING ANY OF THE PAPERWORK AS PART OF THE CONSORTIUM.

TRAVIS COUNTY IS GONNA TAKE ON THE BULK OF THAT.

UM, WE ARE JUST HERE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO TEST THE SOFTWARE SALE, HOW IT WORKS, MAKE SURE IT'S GONNA HELP US WITH OUR MILITARY AND OVERSEAS VOTERS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE PRIMARIES COMING NEXT YEAR.

SO BASICALLY IT'S WE'RE BUYING OR WE'RE GETTING SOFTWARE.

YES.

UM, OMNI BALLOT IS A PORTAL SPECIFIC TO OUR MILITARY AND OVERSEAS VOTERS.

UM, THOSE VOTERS ARE ABLE TO GET THEIR BALLOTS VIA EMAIL IF THEY SO CHOOSE.

AND WHEN WE SEND THOSE CURRENTLY THROUGH THE COUNTY, IT'S A DOC NET.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A.NET EMAIL ADDRESS.

SOMETIMES WE GET SENT TO SPAM.

WE HAVE TO, THEY'LL CALL US A COUPLE OF WEEKS LATER, LIKE, I'VE NEVER GOT IT.

I'M LIKE, GO TO SPAM, SEARCH MY NAME.

LOOK FOR THIS, LOOK FOR THAT.

SO WE'RE HOPING THAT THIS PORTAL, SINCE IT'LL BE A.GOV AND IT'LL BE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AFFILIATED, THAT IT'LL GO PAST FIREWALLS, IT WILL SEND THEM TO SPAM AND ALLOW US TO MORE EASILY TRACK AND RECEIVE THOSE BALLOTS BACK FROM THESE INDIVIDUALS.

SO THAT'S AVAILABILITY FOR CORRUPTION IS SOMEBODY GETTING IN AND VOTING.

IT'S, IT'S A WAY FOR OUR VOTERS TO NOT HAVE THEIR BALLOT THAT IS IMPORTANT TO THEM ACCIDENTALLY GO TO THEIR OR JUNK FOLDER AND THEM NOT KNOW IT.

UM, WITH OUR MILITARY, WE NEVER KNOW WHAT THEIR SITUATION IS WHEN THEY ARE OVERSEAS.

RIGHT.

WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE IN AN ACTIVE FIRE ZONE OR NOT.

SOMETIMES THEY DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITIES TO GO AND CHECK THROUGH THOSE DIFFERENT LAYERS.

OKAY.

KIND HARD TO STOP THE MIDDLE OF A FIRE PATTERN AND CHECK CARE OF ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY.

WHERE YOU ARE TO BEGIN WITH.

NO, THAT'S KIND OF CORRECT.

LET'S SAY YOU, IT'S A, IT'S A SUPPLE, IT ISS AN OPPORTUNITY.

UM, IT'LL LET US TEST THIS SOFTWARE FREE OF CHARGE FOR TWO YEARS.

IT'LL COVER ITS ENTIRE COST THROUGH 2020 POP.

SO IT'S A WIN-WIN.

IF WE DON'T LIKE IT, IT DOESN'T DO WHAT WE WANT.

WE DON'T HAVE TO KEEP IT.

AND WE HAVEN'T LOST ANY 2025.

THAT'S GOOD.

OKAY.

THANKS A GREAT IDEA.

MM-HMM.

CAN'T BEAT THE NO COST PART.

YEAH.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

, RIGHT? .

ALL RIGHT.

NEED A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

COMMISSIONER MORMAN SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

UHUH.

THANK YOU

[7. Tandi Smith; Discuss/Consider approval for Elections Department staff to attend the 41st Annual Election Law Seminar for County Election Officials to be held July 30- August 2, 2023, in Austin, Texas, and the closure of the Elections office during business days in that time period.]

MS. ANDY SMITH, AGAIN, DISCUSS, CONSIDERED APPROVING APPROVAL FOR ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT STAFF TO ATTEND THE 41ST ANNUAL ELECTION LAW SEMINARY FOR COUNTY ELECTION OFFICIALS TO BE HELD AUGUST, I MEAN JULY 30 THROUGH AUGUST THE SECOND OF THIS YEAR IN AUSTIN.

UH, AND AT THE CLOSURE ELECTIONS OFFICE.

WE'RE GONNA CLOSE ELECTION OFFICE DURING THE TIME PERIOD.

CORRECT.

SO YOU ALL ATTEND? CORRECT.

OKAY.

THIS IS THE ONLY TIME EVERYBODY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS GETS ALL TOGETHER.

IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT YEAR.

AS YOU GENTLEMEN KNOW, I'VE BEEN SENDING Y'ALL A LOT OF LEGISLATIVE INFORMATION, SO WE ANTICIPATE A LOT OF CHANGES COMING OUR WAY THIS YEAR.

PROBABLY.

SO.

YES, SIR.

SO, WHILE TRAVEL'S NOT REQUIRED TO BE BRIEFED, BECAUSE WE ARE REQUESTING THE CLOSURE OF THE OFFICE DURING THAT TIME, FOR EVERYONE TO ATTEND, I'D JUST LIKE TO BRING THAT TO THE COURT.

YOU CAN PUT THAT ON OUR WEBSITE AND EVERYTHING.

SO, YES.

WHICH WE'LL KNOW, WE'LL HAVE THE WEBSITE.

THAT NOTICE WILL BE THERE.

OUR PHONES WILL BE FORWARDED TO A VOICEMAIL SYSTEM.

OUR ELECTIONS EMAIL, WE CAN STILL CHECK REMOTELY.

OKAY.

GOOD DEAL.

NEED A MOTION FOR THAT? I'LL MAKE IN A MOTION.

MR. BARGER

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MAKES THE MOTION.

NEED A SECOND? SECOND, MR. PHILLIPS, MAKE A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU, TANDY.

I GOT ONE MORE FOR YOU.

WE HAVE ONE.

LET ME TURN THE PAGE.

COME

[8. Tandi Smith; Discuss/Consider approval for Elections Department staff to attend the 6th Annual International Association of Government Officials Conference, Trade Show, and CPL Education Sessions to be held June 22-28, 2023 in Ft. Worth, Texas and the closure of the Elections office during business days in that time period.]

BACK.

LAST ONE, I PROMISE AGAIN.

YEAH.

TRAVEL AGAIN.

TRAVEL AGAIN.

SAME TYPE OF SITUATION.

WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR STAFF TO START THEIR C P CERTIFICATE OF PUBLIC LEADERSHIP IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS AND PEPPERDINE UNIVERSITY.

UM, THEY'RE COMING.

THIS CONFERENCE IS COMING TO FORT WORTH THIS YEAR, INSTEAD OF HAVING TO TRAVEL FAR AWAY AND START SOMETHING, WE CAN START IT LOCALLY.

IT'S ANOTHER GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS OFFICE TO INTERACT WITH INDIVIDUALS FROM OUR FIELDS.

GO TO TED BREAKOUT SESSIONS, GAY KNOWLEDGE, AND AGAIN, START THOSE COURSES CRITICAL TO CONTINUING IN THIS INDUSTRY.

OKAY.

SO LET ME READ THE REQUEST.

DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVAL FOR ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT STAFF TO ATTEND THE SIXTH ANNUAL INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS CONFERENCE, TRADE SHOW, AND C P EDUCATION SESSIONS TO BE HELD.

JUNE 22ND, 28TH IN FORT WORTH.

AND I'LL AGAIN, CLOSE THE OFFICE DURING THAT TIME.

NEED A MOTION? DO WE HAVE THE FUNDS FOR THIS? YOU GOT THE FUNDS FOR IT.

THIS IS BUDGETED.

THIS WAS PART OF BUDGET.

MY BUDGET REQUEST.

OKAY, SO WE'RE GOOD.

JUST WANTED TO MAKE HER SHE CAN VERIFY.

I ALSO COPIED MS. MCLEOD ON IT.

OKAY.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

MR. MOORE MAKES A MOTION IN A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

ONE SECOND.

MR. FIELDS MAKE SECOND HALL IN FAVOR TO SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

YOU GENTLE AND YES, MS. RHONDA

[9. Rhonda Hughey; Discuss/Consider entering into a contract between Kaufman County District Clerk's Office and Kofile for a preservation project, using TXMAS contract number 18-3602. Project to paid for using Clerks' Records Management Preservation funds.]

DISCUSS CONSIDERED AIRING TO A CONTRACT BETWEEN KAUFMAN COUNTY DISTRICT CLERK'S OFFICE AND CO PROFILE FOR THE PRESERVATION PROJECT USING TEX MAX CONTRACT NUMBER 18 36 0 2 PROJECT TO BE PAID FOR USING CLERK'S RECORDS AND MANAGEMENT PRESERVATION FUNDS.

GOOD MORNING.

YES, MA'AM.

MM-HMM.

, I'VE GOT STACY HERE WITH ME WITH PROFILE IN CASE I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR HER.

UH, THIS IS, WE'RE STARTING, WE'VE STARTED OUR SECOND PART OF GETTING OUR PRESERVATION.

I'VE GOT A BUNCH OF OLD RECORDS.

I KNOW IF Y'ALL EVER BEEN IN MY OFFICE, YOU KNOW THAT.

BUT WE'RE GOOD IN OUR BOOKS.

THAT HAS TO BE DONE BY LAW.

STACY HAS GOT ME A QUOTE WHERE I FORWARDED IT TO THE DA'S OFFICE AND THEY OVER, THEY LOOKED IT OVER.

AND ALSO, UM, MS. KAREN AND SHE LOOKED IT OVER.

UH, IT'S MORE THAN WHAT WE'VE GOT ON HERE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO, WE'RE GONNA DO IT IN PARTS.

THEY'VE AGREED TO DO IT FOR ME IN PARTS.

OKAY? MM-HMM.

.

UH, SO WE'RE GONNA DO OUR FIRST PART, WHICH WILL BE BOOKS.

AND SO I'M ASKING FOR APPROVAL FOR THAT.

AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, STACY'S HERE AND WITH PROFILE THAT SHE CAN ANSWER ALL YOUR QUESTIONS.

YOU DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO.

NOT MOTION.

I'M GOOD WITH THEM.

I'VE TOURED THEIR PLACE.

YOU NEED JUST NEED PLACE.

PLACE.

AND, UH, IT'S NICE.

I NEED A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

MR. FHELPS MAKES A MOTION.

NEED A SECOND? SECOND.

MR. BARR MAKES A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR IS SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU FOR COMING.

THANK YOU,

[10. Sheriff Beavers; Discuss/Consider approval for retiring investigator Charles Sexton to purchase his service weapon pursuant to HB 1379 and Kaufman County Policy signed by Kaufman County Judge on December 31, 2012.]

SHERIFF BEAVERS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RETIRING INVESTIGATOR CHARLES SEXTON TO PURCHASE HIS SERVICE WEAPON PURSUANT TO HOUSE BILL 13 13 79 AND KAMAN COUNTY POLICY SIGNED BY KAUFMAN COUNTY JUDGE IN DECEMBER OF 2012.

YES, SIR.

YES, SIR.

WE'RE HERE AGAIN.

WE GOT, UH, CHARLES IS FIXING TO RETIRE IN WHICH HE'S GOT WHAT, 37, 38 YEARS.

SO HE'S DECIDED TO RETIRE.

SO HE HE MADE IT THROUGH IT.

THAT'S GOOD.

YEAH, HE MADE IT THROUGH IT.

SO HE IS MAKING THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO PURCHASE HIS SERVICE WEAPON.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE COMING TO Y'ALL FOR.

OKAY.

NEED A MOTION? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

MOTION.

MR. COMMISSIONER BARBER AND ANY SECOND.

COMMISSIONER MOORE.

ALL IN FAVOR SAYING AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

[11. Sheriff Beavers; Discuss/Consider approval for retiring investigator George York to purchase his service weapon pursuant to HB 1379 and Kaufman County Policy signed by Kaufman County Judge on December 31, 2012.]

SAME THING ON NUMBER 11.

DISCUSS HIS APPROVAL OF RETIRING INVESTIGATOR GEORGE YORK TO PURCHASE HIS WEAPON PURSUANT TO HOUSE BILL 1379 AND KAMAN COUNTY POLICY SIGNED BY THE COUNTY JUDGE IN 2012.

AND IT'S THE SAME THING.

LIKE I SAY, WE'VE GOT THE QUOTES IN THE BACK.

Y'ALL GOT ALL THAT INFORMATION? YES.

JACK AND EVERYTHING.

SO JUST THE SAME THING.

HE'S REACHED THE END OF HIS LIFE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT.

WANTS TO MOVE ON AND GO EXPLORE.

HOW MANY YEARS FOR GEORGE? HE'S ABOUT THE SAME THING AROUND 38, 39.

OKAY.

WELL HE STILL AS A SIX SHOOTER THEN, RIGHT? HE'S GOT .

SO, YEAH.

NEED A MOTION? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

MR. MOORE MAKES A MOTION.

NEED A SECOND? SECOND.

GO AHEAD.

THINK I BEAT HIM.

MR. DEPART.

ALL FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

THANK YOU.

CHAIR.

[12. Sheriff Beavers; Discuss/Consider/Approve MOU between Kaufman County Sheriff's Office and the City of Kaufman for the use and payment of the Flock cameras.]

UH, DISCUSS CENTER APPROVAL MOU BETWEEN COPEMAN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THE CITY OF COPEMAN FOR THE USE OF PAYMENT OF THE FLOCK CAMERAS.

THAT IS THE FLOCK CAMERA SYSTEM THAT WE'VE HAD.

WE'VE, THIS IS OUR SECOND YEAR THAT WE'RE GOING WITH THAT.

UH, THEY WANT TO, THEIR CITY AUDITORS WANTS A MOU BETWEEN US.

SO I GOT OUR LOVELY, UH, DA'S OFFICE TO DRY UP A MOU.

SO WE'RE BRINGING IT TO YOU TO GET APPROVAL TO DO THE MOU, CUZ UH, WELL, THEY'LL MAKE PAYMENT.

THEY PAY FOR HALF OF THE CAMERA SYSTEM THAT WE PAY FOR.

IT'S AROUND THE COURTHOUSE, WHICH THE FLOCK CAMERA SYSTEM IS DOING.

OUR OUTSTANDING JOB IN

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OUR COUNTY SINCE WE BROUGHT IT IN HERE MANY YEARS AGO.

WELL, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NECESSARY, UNFORTUNATELY.

YES.

YEAH.

REALLY WELL.

CAN'T COMPLAIN WHEN SOMEBODY'S GONNA PAY FOR HALF OF US NOW.

YES.

YES.

WELL, IT BENEFITS BOTH OF US.

IT BENEFITS BOTH OF US.

SO IT'S A GOOD, GOOD THING.

OKAY, SO I NEED A MOTION FOR THAT.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR THAT.

MR. PHELPS.

MAKE SOME MOTION.

NEED A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

MR. MOORE MAKES A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE JACK

[13. Jack Sebastian; Discuss/Consider all matters related to Purchasing Department personnel restructuring.]

SEBASTIAN.

DISCUSSED CONSIDER ALL MATTERS RELATED TO PURCHASING DEPARTMENT AND PERSONNEL RESTRUCTURING.

JIM, I APOLOGIZE IT, THE OFFICE OFF WORKING ON SPREADSHEET FOR ME AS WELL.

I APPRECIATE THEIR EFFORT.

SO THE ALTARS HELD YOU UP? IS THAT WHAT'S NO, NO, NO, NO.

MAKE THAT CLEAR.

NOT .

Y'ALL BETTER BE CAREFUL.

MM-HMM.

, I'M SITTING CLOSEST.

THAT'S OKAY, JACK.

I GET BLAMED FOR EVERYTHING.

I UNDERSTAND.

I DON'T MIND.

SO I'VE COME TO YOU GUYS TO, UH, UH, SPEAK ABOUT, UH, UH, INCREASING THE STAFF.

AND YOU'LL NOTICE ON THAT FIRST PAGE, IT KIND OF ADDRESSES THE, UH, COMPARISON OF OTHER COUNTIES.

AND, UH, THE FIRST, UH, FOUR COUNTIES LISTED HAVE A POPULATION ACTUALLY LESS THAN US.

AND, UH, YOU SEE THEY'VE GOT BETWEEN 33 TO 65% MORE PERSONNEL IN THEIR OFFICE.

UH, WHEN I WAS, WHEN I LEFT HERE IN, IN 2016, I WAS PREPARING TO, UH, UH, ADD ADDITIONAL POSITION.

UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE COUNTY'S GROWN DEPARTMENTS HAVE GROWN OVER THE YEARS FROM SIZE FOR THE LAST 10 OR 12 YEARS.

THE SIZE OF THE PURCHASE DEPARTMENT HAS NOT GROWN ANY.

SO WE'VE KIND OF, UH, WE'RE KIND OF BOGGED DOWN, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, KIND OF TREAD WATER.

UH, IN ADDITION TO LACK OF STAFF, UH, WE'VE TAKEN ON DUTIES OF THE FLEET MANAGER, UH, ON ENTERPRISE CARS.

UH, WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING RISK MANAGEMENT, UH, AS WELL, UH, WHICH TENDS TO BE AN HR, UH, ISSUE.

UH, ALL THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, UH, NEW SOFTWARE TRAINING NOW THAT WE'RE DOING FOR THE FIXING OVER LIVE NEXT MONTH.

AND, UH, SO WE'VE GOTTA TRAIN OUR OURSELVES PLUS ALL THE ACCOUNT EMPLOYEES.

AND, UH, WE'RE ABOUT TO START, UH, INVENTORY.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE ALREADY BOGGED DOWN, UH, SAY THE LEAST.

UH, I'M, I'M ALSO RECOMMENDING KIND OF RESTRUCTURING THE, THE TITLES.

UH, WE'RE GOING FROM, UH, WHEN, WHEN I WAS HERE, WE HAD A BUYER AND, AND I THINK A PURCHASING SPECIALIST AND THINGS KIND OF CHANGED.

UH, THERE AGAIN, I THINK WE WERE HEADED IN THE DIRECTION TO ADDING STAFF BACK IN THE DAY.

BUT I THINK AS PEOPLE COME IN, THEY DON'T HAVE A COMFORT LEVEL ASKING FOR, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL STAFF.

AND SO NOW WE'VE KIND OF ENDED UP WHERE, WHERE WE'RE AT.

UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UH, UH, SECOND SHEET, THE, THE AUTHORS OFFICE DID FOR ME, UH, YOU LOOK AT MY, AT MY CURRENT, UH, UH, SALARY AND, AND THAT'S SALARY I WANNA POINT OUT THAT INCLUDES ALL THE BENEFITS THAT THAT'S NOT SALARY.

THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THE, UH, CURRENT POSITION PAYS PLUS THE BENEFIT PACKAGES.

AND WHAT I'M PROPOSING IS, UH, UH, UH, BACKING OFF ONE DAY A WEEK, UH, I CURRENTLY IN THIS SITUATION, I, I DON'T STIMULATE VACATION AND, UH, I'D KINDA LIKE TO GET DOWN TO ABOUT FOUR DAYS A WEEK AND MANAGE THE DEPARTMENT.

UH, BY DOING SO, UH, DROPPING MY HOURS WOULD, WOULD, WOULD ACTUALLY PAY FOR, UH, UH, PROMOTING, UH, ZELLE FROM HER POSITION TO, UH, ASSISTANT PURCHASING AGENT.

AND THAT REALLY NOT WOULD IMPACT THE COUNTY IN ANY WAY.

UM, THE OTHER THING IS WE, YOU KNOW, I'M REQUESTING THAT WE DO ADD A SECOND BUYER POSITION.

UH, I WANT, I WANNA ALSO CHANGE ONE OTHER PERSON'S, UH, TITLE, UH, TO A BUYER.

SO I WOULD, SO IT'D BE A PURCHASING AGENT, ASSISTANT AND, AND TWO BUYERS.

THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M TRYING TO STRUCTURE THIS THING AS.

AND, UH, THAT WOULD, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SPREADSHEET, UH, THE OTTER'S OFFICE HAS PREPARED, I GUESS THE BOTTOM LINE IS, IS THAT THAT BOTTOM BOX THERE, UH, FOR THE REST OF THE, UH, BUDGET YEAR, UH, IT WOULD IMPACT THE COUNTY 20,000, UH, 5 57 0.52.

AND THAT'S ADDING A POSITION, UH, OF BUYER, UH, AT A SALARY OF, UH, UH, 50,500.

WELL, I KNOW WITH ALL THE PROJECTS THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW AND ALL THE, UH, RESTRUCTURING, REMODELING AND BUILDING, UH, YOU'RE INUNDATED WITH STUFF EVERY DAY.

YES, SIR.

I MEAN, IN YOUR OFFICE PROBABLY TOO OFTEN, UH, ASKING QUESTIONS, BUT I KNOW IT TAKES A LOT OF INFORMATION AND A LOT OF TIME WHEN YOU'RE PARKED TO FIND OUT THINGS, WHAT WE CAN, WHAT WE CAN'T DO, WHERE WE GONNA BUY THIS? WHO'S ON THE BUYBOARD, WHO'S NOT, AND THEN THE TIME GETTING BIDS OUT AND GETTING 'EM BACK IN AND GET HIM AWARDED.

AND, AND I THINK IN ADDITION TO THAT, JUDGE, BIG, THE BIG PROBLEM IS THAT, UH, DUE TO JUST

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NOT HAVING THE STAFF, I'M NOT ABLE TO GET THESE FOLKS TRAINED, UH, IN THE PURCHASING THING, RIGHT? WE'RE, WE'RE, WHAT I'VE FOUND IS WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON THE LAST PERIOD OF TIME IS JUST RUBBER STAMPING THINGS.

WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY DOING BUYING, WE'RE JUST PREPARING THE PAPERWORK TO GET PAID AT THE OTTER'S OFFICE.

SO, UH, WE'RE SLOW TO GETTING BACK TO THE PROCESS WHERE WE'RE GETTING QUOTES AND TRYING TO SAVE THE COUNTY MONEY, WHICH IS ACTUALLY WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.

UH, AND I THINK IF THIS DEPARTMENT GETS BACK TO WHERE IT WAS, UH, IT, IT REALLY PAYS FOR ITSELF.

I THINK WHAT WE SAVE THE COUNTY, UH, IN DOLLARS PAYS FOR OUR PERSONNEL, IT WILL SAVE US DOLLARS.

YES SIR.

MR. OTTER, WE'RE GOOD WITH THE MONEY AND EVERYTHING.

I GOT THE MONEY.

GOT THE MONEY.

OKAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT, UH, POSSIBLY, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT BUD YEAR, SOMEONE ELSE MAY WANT TO ADD ANOTHER POSITION AS YOU CAN SEE HOW FAR DOWN WE ARE ON PEOPLE.

BUT THIS, THIS WOULD CERTAINLY GET US BACK ON OUR FEET SPEAK AND THEN I CAN GET SOME PEOPLE TRAINED.

CUZ NOW IF YOU SEND OFF ONE PERSON TO GET TRAINED, THEN AT TIMES THERE'S EITHER ONE PERSON IN OFFICE OR, OR TWO AT THE MAX, RIGHT? ANY QUESTIONS? NO, I NEED A MOTION.

SO YOU ALL TO APPROVE THIS THEN I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

MR. PHILLIPS MAKES A MOTION.

NEED A SECOND? NO, SECOND.

SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT EVERYONE TO APPROVE SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU JUDGE.

APPRECIATE IT.

BET.

THANK YOU JACK.

[14. Commissioner Moore; Discuss/Consider approving the project agreements between Pet 4 and the City of Gray's Prairie for ditch cleaning on the city's portion of County Road 4062, work totaling $160.86; and adding material and blading County 4062, repairs totaling $616.91.]

NUMBER 14, COMMISSIONER MOORE DISCUSS, CONSIDERED APPROVING THE PROJECT AGREEMENT BETWEEN PRECINCT FOUR AND THE SEAT OF GRAVES PRAIRIE FOR DITCH CLEANING ON THE CITY'S PORTION OF COUNTY ROAD 40 62 TOTALING $160 86 CENTS AND ADDING MATERIAL AND BLADING OF COUNTY ROAD 40 62 REPAIRS TOTALING 6 16 91.

COMMISSIONER MOORE.

YEAH, WE'RE JUST DOING, UH, INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT OR QUEST FROM THE CITY TO REPAIR THAT PART OF THE ROADWAY.

IT'S GRAVEL ON 62, SO WE'RE GONNA GO UNDER TO BLADE AND UH, TRY TO CORRECT THAT SURFACE AREA TO MAKE IT DRIVABLE FOR THE PUBLIC TOO.

SO THAT'S 500 FEET OF THAT ROADWAY IS THE CITY.

SO WE ALREADY HAVE THE AGREEMENT IN PLACE ANYWAY, SO YES SIR.

OKAY.

MM-HMM.

, YOU MAKE THAT MOTION THEN? YES SIR.

I MAKE THAT MOTION.

NEED A NEED A SECOND? SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT ONE IN FAVOR, STATE AYE PLEASE.

UH, MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER MOORE.

NUMBER

[15. Commissioner Moore; Discuss/Consider approving the project agreement between Pet. 4 and the City Gray's Prairie for patching County Road 4061, repair totaling $395.00.]

15 IS YOURS.

ALSO DISCUSS CONSIDERED APP PROVING AND PROJECT AGREEMENT BETWEEN PRECINCT FOUR AND THE CITY OF GRACE PRAYER FOR PATCHING COUNTY ROAD 40 61 REPAIRERS, TOTALING $395.

UH, 40 61 IS ANOTHER, UH, 500 FEET OF CITY, UH, ROADWAY.

THEY'RE ON 40 COUNTY ROAD 40 61.

IT'S ALL THE POTHOLES ARE BASKET.

WE'RE GONNA DO A LITTLE POTHOLE PATCH IN THERE FOR THEM ON END OF THAT ROAD UNDER THE END, THEIR LOCAL AGREEMENT.

OKAY, NOW MAKE A MOTION TO GET THAT APPROVED.

OKAY, DO I NEED A SECOND? SECOND.

THANK MR. PHILLIPS.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIE.

[16. Commissioner Moore; Discuss/Consider accepting a donation of road materials for County Road 4106 from Certified Recycling, 100 yards of recycled shingles.]

NUMBER 16, COMMISSIONER MOORE DISCUSSED, CONSIDERED ACCEPTED A DONATION OF ROAD MATERIALS FOR CAN ROAD 41 0 6 FROM CERTIFIED RECYCLING, 100 YARDS OF RECYCLED SHINGLES.

UH, UH, WHAT WE DO, WE'VE BEEN USING S UH, TP OR S PT, UH, SHINGLES OF MIXTURE FOR ROADWAYS.

UH, THIS COMPANY HERE OUTTA WILL'S POINT, UH, THEY DO THE RECYCLE SHINGLES WHERE WE CAN GET 'EM LOCAL AND USE THEM AND MIX, UH, THEM AS WELL WITH SOME OF THE WRAP THAT WE RECEIVE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO, UH, WE MET WITH THEM, THEY SHOWED US WHAT THEY HAD AND THEY WERE OFFERING TO GIVE US A HUNDRED YARDS OF IT TO TRY IT TO SEE IF IT'S, IF IT'S GOING TO BENEFIT US OR NOT.

AND UH, SO I BROUGHT IT FOR TO COURT TO SEE IF, UH, GET THAT APPROVED TO ACCEPT THAT FREE DONATION.

TERRY EVER USED THAT? I HAVEN'T USED THEM.

UH, THEY DID COME OUT TO MY OFFICE AND, UH, SHOW US OUR PRODUCT.

UH, IT'S BEEN A COUPLE YEARS AGO.

UH, WE NEVER HAVE USED IT, BUT OKAY.

I MEAN IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A, A GOOD, YOU KNOW, WELL THAT'S AN EXPERIMENT.

SO YEAH.

AND IT'S, AND IT'S NO COST TO THE COUNTY, SO YEAH.

TAKE NAILS OUT OF 'EM AND I PUT ON THEIR FLOOR .

YEAH.

THESE ONE THING ABOUT THIS, THAT QUESTION DIDN'T THAT QUESTION, DON'T WANT A SHERIFF'S CARD RUN UP THAT, THAT QUESTION DID, THAT QUESTION DID COME UP.

AND, UH, ALL THEIR SHINGLES OR LIKE SHINGLES FROM THE SHINGLE FACTORY THAT LIKE EITHER TORE UP IN PRODUCTION, THEY'RE NOT, NONE OF THESE ARE RECONSTRUCTION.

OH, OH SHINGLES.

THESE ARE ALL FROM THE FACTORY.

SO , OKAY.

YOUR, YOUR SQUAD CARDS ARE AND I DID AND I DID PUT ON THERE COUNTY ROAD 41 0 6 CAUSE WE'RE, THAT'S A CONCRETE ROADWAY.

THE OH 1 75 AND GASTONIA.

YEAH.

YEAH.

UH, IT'S BEEN A VERY, UH, PROBLEM FOR A LONG TIME TRYING TO FIND A SOLUTION TO HELP DECISIONS ON THAT ROAD.

SO WE THINK THIS IS, WE'VE DID SOME TESTING OUT THERE WITH SOME OTHER MATERIAL AND WE THINK THIS IS GOING TO HELP US SUSTAIN, ACCOMPLISH THAT FOR THAT'S BAD ROAD.

MM-HMM.

.

YES SIR.

WILL BE FOREVER.

OKAY.

SO I MAKE THAT MOTION.

MAKE THAT MOTION.

NEED A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND.

COMMISSIONER BARBARA, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

HAVE MOTION CARRIES.

[17. Commissioner Hunt; Discuss/Consider approval of Precinct 1 2019 Road Bond funding transfers in the amount of $656,521.19.]

COMMISSIONER

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HUNT IS NOT GOING TO BE WITH US TODAY, BUT MS. AUDITOR IS GOING TO PRESENT THAT MOTION FAR AS YES CONSIDER APPROVAL AND PRE UH, APPRECIATE 1 20 19 ROAD BOND FUNDING TRANSFERS THE AMOUNT OF $656,521 AND 19 CENTS.

YES MA'AM.

YES SIR.

WE WORKED WITH, ITS TO VERIFY THESE OR TRANSFERS ARE ACTUALLY THEIR MONEY THAT CAN BE MOVED AND ALL THE INVOICES ON THOSE DIFFERENT PROJECTS HAVE BEEN PAID IN FULL.

WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON UH, COMMISSIONER BARBERS AND THEY SHOULD HAVE IT FOR NEXT COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

HOPEFULLY.

SO WE CAN MOVE THAT TO THE DISCRETIONARY AND HE CAN FIX A ROAD OR HE CAN, HE NEEDS TO.

OKAY.

THAT'S GOOD.

MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

I NEED A MOTION FOR THAT THEN I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR HIM.

MR. PHELPS MAKES THE MOTION.

NEED A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

MR. MOORE MAKES A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

MOTION

[18. Auditor; Discuss/Approve the Arbitrage Rebate Compliance agreement with HillTop Securities, LLC.]

CARRIES.

THANK YOU MS. AUDITOR DISCUSSED APPROVE THE ARBITRAGE REBATE COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT WITH HILLTOP SECURITIES.

THIS IS OUR ANNUAL AGREEMENT WITH HILLTOP.

THEY'VE DONE THIS, UH, PROJECT FOR US FOR YEARS, NO PRICE INCREASE, BUT ON THAT IT SHOWS YOU THAT THE ANNUAL CONTRACT IS 1600 AND THEN THERE UH, IF WE HAVE TO ISSUE A REFUND AT SEVEN 50, IT WINDS UP, IT AFFECTS ALL THE BONDS.

SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT BUT IT'S PER BOND SO IT'S THE SAME PRICE.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTOOD THAT.

AND THEN I NEED THE JUDGE TO SIGN WHERE I PUT A TAG ON IT IF YOU APPROVE IT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

HEARD THE AUDITOR.

SO WE NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT.

MR. PHELPS MAKES THE MOTION.

NEED A SECOND? SECOND.

MR. BARR MAKES A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARES.

THANK YOU JUDGE.

[19. Auditor; Discuss/Consider line-item and budget transfers/corrections.]

AND MS. KAREN, NUMBER 19 DISCUSSED CONSIDERED LINE ITEM TRANSFERS AND BUDGET CORRECTIONS.

UH, THESE WERE EMAILED TO YOU FRIDAY.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE? NO MA'AM.

I ASKED FOR YOUR APPROVAL.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR THAT.

MR. PHELPS MAKES THE MOTION.

NEED A SECOND? SECOND.

MR. BARR MAKES A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

THE MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU MS. AUDITOR AGAIN.

[20. Auditor; Discuss/Consider claims for payment and/or Financial Information as provided by the County Auditor.]

DISCUSS, CONSIDERED CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT AND OR FINANCIAL INFORMATION IS PROVIDED BY THE COUNTY AUDITOR.

ALL RIGHT.

YOUR CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT ARE MILLION $145,067 AND 55 CENTS.

A PAYROLL OF 1,000,600 $76,844 AND 43 CENTS.

TOTAL PAYOUT OF $2,821,911 AND 98 CENTS.

MOST OF THAT WAS SPENT ON YOUR 2020 FACILITIES BOND OF 336,700.

UH, RADIO TOWER.

WE MADE OUR FIRST PAYMENT ON IT FOR UM, THE KS O SUBSTATION, WHICH WAS 296,000.

AND THEN VARIOUS LEASE PAYMENTS, COUNTY SOFTWARE.

UM, AND I'LL TELL YOU SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED.

WE'RE TRYING TO BACK UP ALL OF OUR S T W FILES.

SO CHRIS SEYMOUR IN THE IT DEPARTMENT BACKED UP EVERYTHING FOR ME SO I CAN HAVE ACCESS TO THE OLD LEGACY SY LEGACY SYSTEM TO GET, MAKE SURE I'VE GOT EVERYTHING.

THEN I REQUESTED A EXTERNAL DRIVE AND I'VE BACKED UP THE LAST 10 YEARS.

AND THEN I CALLED MY FRIEND AT S T W AND TOLD HER I'D LIKE TO HAVE A COPY OF ALL THE FILES, ALL THE RECEIPTS, ALL THE CHECKS, ALL THE COMMENTS, DESCRIPTIONS.

AND BECAUSE OF WHO IT WAS, THEY ONLY CHARGED ME $2,500.

AND I THINK THAT WAS EXCELLENT.

AFTER WE TOLD THEM WE WEREN'T GONNA USE THEIR SOFTWARE ANYMORE.

.

WELL YOU KNOW, THAT'S VERY PRUDENT FOR YOU TO DO THAT.

I APPRECIATE IT.

CAUSE THAT'LL FAMOUS DOWN THE ROAD.

I MAKE SURE OUR BOOKS WAS TAKEN CARE OF.

YES.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE FIELDS? NO.

NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION BOTH.

MR. BARBER.

NEED A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

MR. MOORE.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

YES MA'AM.

[21. Judge Allen; Discuss/Consider approving a Resolution Opposing Developers Special Districts.]

NUMBER 21, DISCUSS CONSIDERED APP PROVING A RESOLUTION.

OPPOSING DEVELOPER SPECIAL AGREEMENTS.

Y'ALL HAD TIME TO LOOK AT THAT.

KINDA LIKE WHAT ROCKWELL DID.

YEAH, THERE'S REALLY NOT ANY TEETH TO IT.

IT'S JUST LETTING TO KNOW THAT WE NEED TO KNOW IN ADVANCE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING, WHAT'S COMING IN OUR COUNTY.

UH, AND THAT'S BASICALLY IT.

AND KEITH SAID HE WOULD LOVE FOR EVERYONE TO, AND ANNABELLE IS SENT TO ALL THE CITIES.

HOW MANY RESPONSES HAVE WE GOT BACK? YEAH, FOUR.

NEED TO MAKE SOME PHONE CALLS CAUSE SOME OF THESE CITIES ARE SMALL AND THEY DON'T MEET VERY OFTEN TO GET THAT TO 'EM AS

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SOON AS POSSIBLE CUZ ROCKWELL COUNTY'S ALREADY ACCOMPLISHED THEIRS AND SENT IT DOWN THERE.

SO WE NEED TO FOLLOW UP.

SO I NEED A MOTION TO, I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR YOU.

MR. HOOK MAKES A MOTION.

NEED A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

MR. MOORE, MAKE A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU GUYS.

NUMBER 22.

[22. Judge Allen; Discuss/Consider exiting regular meeting and enter executive session pursuant to section 551.072 of the Texas Government Code, the Commissioners Court will meet in closed session to discuss real estate negotiations.]

EXCUSE, EXCUSE WRONG EAR.

OKAY, NUMBER 22, DISCUSS.

CONSIDER EXITING REGULAR MEETING AND ENTER TO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51 0.072.

WELL THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, THE CO COMMISSIONER'S COURT REMAIN IN CLOSED SESSION TO DISCUSS REAL ESTATE AND NEGOTIATIONS.

SO AT THIS TIME WE WERE GOING TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

THANK YOU GUYS, GALS FOR COMING.

MM-HMM.

NEED A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION CHAIR.

BARBARA.

THANK MR. MOORE.

SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

I GET ENOUGH.

I GET ENOUGH FLAT FROM THE CONSTRUCTION.

MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

[23. Judge Allen; Discuss/Consider exiting executive session and enter back into a regular meeting.]

I NEED A MOTION TO COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

MR. BARBER MAKES A MOTION.

DO YOU SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

MR. MOORE NEEDS A SECOND.

MADE A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

[24. Judge Allen; Discuss/Consider taking any action resulting from executive session.]

THERE IS NO DISCUSSION OR ANY PLANS OR ANYTHING COMING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION.

NO ACTION TO BE TAKEN.

[25. Adjourn Meeting]

NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

COMMISSION.

PHELPS MAKES A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

NO SECOND MR. BARBARA SECONDS.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THANK YOU.

SEE YOU NEXT WEEK.

I'M SHUT.