Apr 18, 2023 Commissioners Court

OKAY.

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SO IF YOU WILL, WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, COMMISSIONER MOORE DO OUR PRAYER THIS MORNING, AND THEN COMMISSIONER HUNT'S GONNA DO THE PLEDGES IF YOU'LL STAND, PLEASE.

PRAYERS FRANK.

MS. GRACIOUS, HOW ME FATHER, LORD, WE JUST THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO COME TOGETHER HERE FOR THE COUNTY BUSINESS.

LORD, WE JUST PRAY THAT YOU'LL GIVE US WISDOM, KNOWLEDGE, MAKE DECISIONS THAT'S BASED UPON YOUR TEACHING AND THAT WILL MAKE THE BEST JUDGMENTS FOR THE COUNTY.

LORD, WE JUST ASK YOU ALSO TO BE WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER BARBER THIS MORNING IS, UH, HE'S GOING THROUGH HIS SURGERY WITH THE DOCTORS.

WE JUST ASK YOU TO BE WITH, ALSO WITH OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR POLICE OFFICER, FIRE, AND ALL THOSE THAT DO THE PUBLIC DUTIES, LORD, AND JUST, UH, GUIDE THEM.

AND WE JUST THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL YOUR LOVE.

AND WE PRAY TO SAINT YOUR SON'S HOLY NAME.

AMEN.

PLEASURE.

WHICH IS STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, LIBERTY, JUSTICE FROM HONOR.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG OF PLEDGE, ALLEG, TEXAS ONE STATE HONOR GOD ONE.

INDIVISIBLE.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

DOES ANYONE

[1. ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.]

NOT SOME TIRE RECYCLING OR SOMETHING GOING ON PRETTY QUICK.

THAT WAS THAT SATURDAY.

WELL, THERE, THERE IS ONE ON THE 29TH.

THE 29TH AT, UH, SOUTH CAMPUS.

SOUTH CAMPUS? MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

FROM NINE TO 11.

AND WE HAVE IT ON OUR PAGES.

SO COMMISSIONER HUNT'S IN CHARGE OF THAT OVER THERE.

SOUTH CAMPUS .

ACTUALLY, I'VE GOT A GRANDCHILD'S BIRTHDAY PARTY I'M GOING TO, SO I'VE GOT AN EXCUSE TO GET OUT.

FIRST.

I HEARD OF THAT.

THIS IS TRUE.

THIS IS TRUE.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

NO ONE ELSE.

[2. CONSENT AGENDA]

WE HAVE SEVERAL ITEMS HERE.

IF YOU HAD TIME TO LOOK OVER ALL THOSE THIS MORNING.

IF THERE'S ANY COMMENTS YOU WANNA MAKE ON ANY OF THE ITEMS. A, B, C, D, OR E A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION GOING ON IN FIBER AND LOTS OF COUNTY ROADS AND ACCEPT THE COMMISSION COURT MEETING FOR APRIL THE 11TH, ACCEPTING A BOND FOR COMMISSIONER TERRY BARBER ON SPECTRUM FIBER UP AGAINST INSULATION ON CANYON ROAD.

3 52, 3 46 A 3 46.

3 44.

HANGING TREE ROAD, RANCHETTE ROAD, UH, ROAD 3 29, 3 55, 3 56.

3 54 3 22.

3 47, 3 48.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY LEFT.

IS THERE.

, UH, D IS DISCUSSED.

SPECTRUM FIBER OPTIC POWER SUPPLY INSULATION ON COUNTY ROAD 3 55 AND THREE 90.

AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, EXCEPT IN THE START TRANSIT RIDERSHIP REPORTS FOR THE MONTH OF MARCH OF 2023.

IF NOT, ANITA, A MOTION PLEASE, SIR, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION FOR YOU.

MR. PHELPS MAKES THE MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA.

NEED A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

COMMISSIONER HUNT MAKES SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THE MOTION CARRIES NUMBER THREE

[3. Erleigh Wiley; Recognize Shirley Bruner of the Kaufman County Criminal District Attorney's Office for her VAC of the Year Award from TDCAA.]

SO JUDGE WILEY COULD NOT BE HERE, BUT SHE SENT A LETTER.

NOW WHERE IS MS. SHIRLEY? SHE'S DOWN HERE.

COME ON UP HERE.

MS. SHIRLEY.

YOU KNOW SHIRLEY'S WORKED FOR THE COUNTY LONGER THAN JUST ABOUT ANYONE.

HOW MANY YEARS? JUNE.

JUNE 1ST.

24 YEARS.

24.

THAT'S A LONG TIME IN THE COUNTY.

SO HERE'S WHAT EARLY, HAD JUST A FEW COMMENTS.

DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING EARLY SAID ALSO? NO.

NO.

NO.

OKAY.

UH, SHE'S A HARD WORKER.

SHE LOVES PEOPLE AND A FAITHFUL WORKER WHO EMBODIES THE ATTRIBUTES OF SHIRLEY BRUNER.

IT'S WHAT WE ALL STRIVE TO BE.

NOW, IF WE ALL THAT WAY, WE'D BE IN GOOD SHAPE.

THAT'S RIGHT.

SHE'S WORKED IN THE COUNTY FOR, UH, BEFORE THE, NOW SHE PUT THIS IN, NOT ME.

OKAY.

THE 21ST CENTURY.

SO THAT'S .

ANYWAY, SHE UNDERSTANDS THE INNER WORKINGS OF THE COUNTY, AND SHE'S WORKED IN ALL THE DEPARTMENTS WITHIN HER COUNTY.

SHE UNDERSTANDS HOW TO MAKE THINGS WORK IN GOVERNMENT AS SHE HAS SPENT YEARS IN PRIVATE BUSINESS.

SHIRLEY'S A LOCAL GIRL.

SHE AND ROGER HAVE BEEN MARRIED FOR OVER 50 YEARS.

THEY RAISED HER FAMILY HERE IN OUR COUNTY.

SHE HAS THREE CHILDREN, SIX GRANDCHILDREN, AND NINE GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN.

AND A LOT OF YOUR CHILDREN WORK FOR THE COUNTY ALSO.

HOW MANY HERE TODAY? I SEE 1, 2, 3, 4.

ALL RIGHT.

AND SOME HAVE WORKED FOR ME.

AND THEY, AND THEY TAKE AFTER YOU , SHE INNOVATED THE FIRST VICTIM'S AWARENESS AND RECOGNITION OF LUNCHEON, WHICH CONTINUES TO DATE.

AND THAT'S A GREAT THING.

AND, AND EVERYONE SHOULD APPRECIATE THAT.

WHEN SHE STARTED IN THE DA'S OFFICE, SHE SAW THE NEED TO ASSIST VICTIMS. SHE WAS A VICTIM OF ASSISTANT

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AND SHE SAID SHE'S TRULY SORRY THAT SHE CANNOT BE HERE TODAY TO HONOR YOU.

BUT YOU WERE AWARDED THE SUSAN MCDONALD AWARD FOR THE TEXAS DISTRICT AND COUNTY ATTORNEY'S ASSOCIATION.

AND THIS AWARD IS GIVEN EACH YEAR TO A PERSON WHO HAS DISCRIMINATED, DEMONSTRATED IMPECCABLE SERVICE TO THIS ORGANIZATION, CRIME VICTIMS, AND THE PER AND PERSECUTION PROSECUTION.

THE PERSON SELECTED FOR THIS AWARD EXEMPLIFIES ADVOCACY, EMPATHY, AND THE CONSISTENT RECOGNITIONS OF RIGHTS OF VICTIMS. SHE SAYS, OUR OFFICE IS PROUD THAT SHIRLEY BRUNER IS A RECIPIENT OF THIS YEAR'S AWARD, AND WE CERTAINLY ARE TOO.

SO LET'S GIVE HER A ROUND OF APPLAUSE AND YOU HAVE SOMETHING.

OKAY.

SO SHIRLEY, FIRST OF ALL, WE'LL GET A PICTURE OF YOU.

THEY WON'T GET A PICTURE OF YOU AND ALL YOUR FAMILY PARTNER HERE.

OKAY? IS THAT ALL RIGHT WITH YOUR FAMILY? YES.

SO LET'S DO THAT.

AND I'M SURE SHE DOESN'T HAVE ONE.

OKAY.

SHE KIND KNOW NAME OKAY.

STEP TOO.

SCRUNCH DOWN.

SHE GOOD? OKAY.

LOOK THIS WAY, PLEASE.

FOR THE NEWSPAPER.

DALLAS MORNING MIN.

THANK YOU.

NOW LET'S GET ALL THE FAMILY.

Y'ALL COME ON UP AND GET ME.

SHIRLEY, RIGHT IN FRONT.

LET'S US GET OUTTA THIS PICTURE.

, I MIGHT WANNA SCOOT.

YOU HAVE TO GET OUTTA THE, I MIGHT HAVE TO MOVE IT TO ONE SIDE OR SOMETHING.

ONE SIDE.

THERE YOU GO.

START TO, DOESN'T WORK FOR THE CHRISTIE.

YOU NEED TO, YEAH, YOU'RE GO HAVE TO GET DOWN HERE TOO, SHORTY.

POOR PEOPLE IN FRONT.

MY TURN.

3, 2, 1.

AND I THINK SHIRLEY WOULD LIKE HER COWORKER.

, TAKE THE PICTURE.

I PARK NEXT TO HER PICTURE.

I'M ALL THE ONLY GUY.

.

THAT'S GREAT.

OKAY.

I'LL 3, 2, 1.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

DEFINITELY TO THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. THANK YOU SERVICE.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

ITEM

[4. Erleigh Wiley/Karen Badgley; Discuss/Consider/Approve Victim Coordinator and Liaison Grant application for the Criminal District Attorney's Office.]

JUDGE WILEY AGAIN, AND KAREN BADGLEY DISCUSSED CONSIDER APPROVING A VICTIM COORDINATOR IN LIAISON GRANT APPLICATION FOR THE CIVIL DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HERE.

SO THAT'S ALL IT IS, IS WE'RE REQUESTING AN APP SO WE CAN MAKE AN APPLICATION FOR FUNDING FOR THIS.

YES, YOUR HONOR.

WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR THE COURT'S APPROVAL FOR OUR APPLICATION ON THIS GRANT.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S DEFINITELY NEEDED.

YES.

SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER PHELPS MAKES A MOTION.

YES.

SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MOORE.

ALL IN FAVOR? THE AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

ITEM

[5. Erleigh Wiley; Discuss/Consider/Approve issuing a proclamation for National Crime Victims' Rights Week April 23-29, 2023.]

CONSIDER APPROVING ISSUING A PROCLAMATION FOR THE NATIONAL CRIME VICTIM'S RIGHTS WEEK OF APRIL THE 23RD TO THE 29TH OF 2023.

YOU WANNA SPEAK TO THIS MARK? EXCUSE MARK IS OKAY.

THANK YOU, MARK.

THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR.

MORNING.

GOOD.

MARK.

NATIONAL CRIME VICTIMS' RIGHTS WEEK APRIL 23RD THROUGH THE 29TH.

2023.

WHEREAS VICTIM'S RIGHTS ARE A CRITICAL COMPONENT OF OUR SYSTEM OF JUSTICE IN KAUFFMAN COUNTY.

AND WHEREAS KAUFFMAN COUNTY RECOGNIZES THAT WE MAKE OUR HOMES, NEIGHBORHOODS, AND COMMUNITIES SAFER AND STRONGER BY SERVING VICTIMS OF CRIME AND ENSURING JUSTICE FOR ALL.

AND WHEREAS THE TERM VICTIM IS

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AND WHEREAS CRIME VICTIMS RIGHTS ACT PASSED IN TEXAS AND AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, GUARANTEED VICTIMS THE RIGHT TO MEANINGFUL PARTICIPATION AND USE THEIR VOICE IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE PROCESS.

AND WHEREAS VICTIM SERVICE PROVIDERS, ADVOCATES, LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, ATTORNEYS, AND OTHER ALLIED PROFESSIONALS CAN HELP SURVIVORS FIND THEIR JUSTICE BY ENFORCING THESE RIGHTS.

AND WHEREAS THE RIGHT TO PROVIDE AN IMPACTS STATEMENT ENSURES THAT VICTIM'S VOICES ARE CONSIDERED IN COURT DURING THE SENTENCING AND WHEN APPLICABLE RESTITUTION PROCESSES.

AND WHEREAS INCLUDING AND ELEVATING THE VOICES OF SURVIVORS MAKE CERTAIN THEY ARE HEARD AND SEEN AND CREATES A PATH TO FOREGOING AND SUSTAINING COMMUNITY TRUST.

AND WHEREAS ENGAGING SURVIVORS CREATES RESPONSES AND SERVICES THAT ARE CREDIBLE, MEANINGFUL, AND CENTERED ON INDIVIDUAL NEEDS.

AND WHEREAS SURVIVORS LIVED EXPERIENCES CAN SERVE AS A CATALYST FOR IMPLEMENTING INNOVATIVE, SHIFTING EXISTING PROGRAMS IN NEW DIRECTIONS, AND CHANGING POLICIES OR PRACTICES THAT PREVENT SURVIVORS FROM ACCESSING SERVICES OR PURSUING JUSTICE.

AND WHEREAS NATIONAL CRIMES VICTIMS WEAK PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO RECOMMEND TO LISTENING TO CRIME SURVIVORS IN EVERY SPACE WHERE DECISIONS ARE MADE THAT COULD IMPACT THEM.

AND WHEREAS KAUFMAN COUNTY AND THE KAUFMAN COUNTY CRIMINAL DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS HEREBY DEDICATED TO AMPLIFYING THE VOICES OF SURVIVORS AND CREATING AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE SURVIVORS HAVE THE, THE CONFIDENCE THAT THEY WILL BE HEARD, BELIEVED, AND SUPPORTED.

WHEREAS THIS IS THE 39TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE PASSAGE OF THE VICTIMS OF CRIME ACT.

AND THIS YEAR'S THEME IS SURVIVOR VOICES ELEVATED, ENGAGED, INFECT A CHANGE.

NOW, THEREFORE, I LEAD NORVILLE WILEY, CRIMINAL DISTRICT ATTORNEY AT KAUFFMAN COUNTY DO MOVE COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF KAUFFMAN COUNTY TO DESIGNATE APRIL 23RD THROUGH THE 29TH.

2023 AS NATIONAL CRIME VICTIMS WEEK IN KAUFMAN COUNTY.

SO AS TO EXPRESS APPRECI APPRECIATION FOR THOSE VICTIMS AND CRIME SURVIVORS WHO HAVE TURNED PERSONAL TRAGEDY INTO A MOTIVATING FORCE TO IMPROVE OUR RESPONSE TO VICTIMS OF CRIME AND BUILD A MORE JUST COMMUNITY.

FURTHER, I MOVE THE COURT TO DESIGNATE APRIL 26TH, 2023 AS NATIONAL CRIME VICTIMS RIGHT DAY IN KAUFMAN COUNTY.

THAT'S SIGNED BY EARLY NORVILLE WILEY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU KNOW, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DO HAVE A, A GREAT DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND STAFF AS YOU'RE ALL HERE, THAT TAKE CARE OF OUR CITIZENS WHEN THEY'RE NEEDED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR.

SO THIS IS A, A REALLY GOOD THING.

SO I NEED A MOTION TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

COMMISSIONER MOORE MAKES THE MOTION.

NEED A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

MR. TRUMP, MAKE A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR TO SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, VERY MUCH.

NUMBER SIX

[6. Clark Bixler & Mike Fry; Discuss/Consider the application for Texas Property Tax Code Section 381 Rebate Agreement with Abies Springs BESS, LLC.]

UH, CLARK BIXLER AND MIKE FRIES.

MIKE NOT HERE TODAY.

HE'S NOT.

OKAY.

DISCUSS, CONSIDER THE APPLICATION FOR TEXAS PROPERTY TAX CODE SECTION 3 81 REBATE AGREEMENT WITH ABEL SPRINGS.

BEST L L C.

GOOD MORNING.

I THINK WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH EACH OTHER.

UH, FOR ANYONE ELSE HERE, UH, NAME'S CLARK BIXLER.

I WORK FOR ANELL GREEN POWER, UH, DEVELOPMENT MANAGER AND HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APRIL SPRINGS SOLAR AND BATTERY STORAGE PROJECT.

AND THEN ALSO HAVE ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT MANAGER, CARTER SMITH, UH, HERE WITH US TODAY.

AND AS YOU MENTIONED, MIKE FRY'S NOT HERE, SO HE SENT SOMEBODY SMARTER AND HEAR IT FROM GUYS FROM KE ANDREWS.

SO, UM, WE, I WANTED TO GET BACK ON THE AGENDA, TALK WITH YOU ALSO MORE AFTER OUR LAST MEETING, I BELIEVE IT WAS A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, WE TOOK SOME OF THAT FEEDBACK, UM, AND PUT TOGETHER AN UPDATED PROPOSAL, UH, ONE SHORTENING THE TERM LENGTH OF THE PROPOSED AGREEMENT TO SEVEN YEARS.

UM, AND THEN ALSO REDUCING THE M AND O REBATE DOWN TO 40, 45%.

SO JUST TO PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE, WHERE THAT PUTS, UM, THE PROPOSAL, IT WOULD BE NEARLY 50% OF WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED BACK IN NOVEMBER.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THE PROJECT HAS COME DOWN IN TERMS OF, UH, THE REQUEST HERE IS NEARLY 50% OF THE ORIGINAL, UH, PROPOSAL.

AND I SENT YOU ALL AND OR THE COMMISSIONERS AN EMAIL.

UM, BUT GARRETT, DO YOU MIND PASSING THIS OUT TO EVERYONE UP THERE? UM, JUST TO

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AND THEN AS WE, AT THE BOTTOM, AS WE LOOK AT THE BENEFIT, IF THE PROJECT IS CONSTRUCTED, UH, IT'S A $1.4 MILLION BENEFIT FOR ALL TAXING JURISDICTIONS.

SO AS WE CONSIDER SCHOOL, HOSPITAL, UH, EMERGENCY SERVICES AND COUNTY AS WELL.

UM, SO I'D LIKE TO HEAR YOU ALL'S FEEDBACK ON THE UPDATED PROPOSAL FROM, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, TO SEE A $296,000 BENEFIT BY ENTERING INTO THE AGREEMENT AS OPPOSED TO IF THE PROJECT IS NOT CONSTRUCTED.

FEELS LIKE A SCENARIO WHERE IF ANY CONSTITUENT SEES THAT, THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, WELL, WELL, WHY WOULDN'T WE TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO OBTAIN THAT ADDITIONAL 296,000 EVERY YEAR AND POTENTIALLY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOWER TAX RATES IF THAT'S EVEN A CONSIDERATION, OR AT LEAST NOT RAISE THEM AS MUCH VERSUS PASSING ON THE OPPORTUNITY AND RETAINING $652 A YEAR FOR THIS PROPERTY AS IT'S IN ITS CURRENT STATE.

SO I UNDERSTAND YOU ALL, YOU KNOW, THE CONCEPT, THE TOPIC OF WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING HERE IS, IS NOT POPULAR THOUGH.

I THINK CONSTITUENTS WITH THAT INFORMATION THOUGH, WOULD SAY, OKAY, TH THIS IS A BENEFIT THAT HELPS US ALL AS WE RAISE MORE TAX DOLLARS COMPARED TO IF WE DON'T ENTER INTO ANY AGREEMENT AT ALL.

AND THE PROJECT DOES NOT GET CONSTRUCTED.

THAT PROPERTY IS NOT CURRENTLY GENERATING MUCH TAX REVENUE FOR US FROM AN ANNUAL, ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.

BUT, UM, I'D LOVE TO HEAR YOU ALL'S FEEDBACK ON WHAT WE CIRCULATED AND THEN HOW WE ADJUSTED THE PROPOSAL.

OKAY.

WHO WANTS TO GO FIRST? I HAVE A LETTER THAT COMMISSIONER BARBARA SENT TO ME CUZ OKAY.

HE'S IN SURGERY THIS MORNING, SO IT'S VERY BRIEF.

I'LL READ IF YOU DON'T MIND.

YES.

UH, HE SAID, I'VE RECEIVED NUMEROUS COMPLAINTS FROM CONSTITUENTS OF PRECINCT THREE EXPRESSING THEIR DISAPPROVAL OF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT CONSIDERING ACCEPTING ABLE SPRINGS SOLAR LLC APPLICATION FOR THE TEXAS PROPERTY TAX CODE SECTION 3 81 TAX REBATE AGREEMENT.

THE CONCERNS IN MIND ARE THAT NO KAMAN COUNTY JOB POTENTIAL TO BE CREATED WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT PROJECT AND THE CO COMMISSIONER'S COURT SHOULD NOT GIVE TAX REBATES OR ABATEMENTS TO DEVELOPERS WITHOUT JOB OPPORTUNITIES BEING AS PART OF THIS AGREEMENT, I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF ENTERING INTO THIS THREE TO ONE TAX AGREEMENT.

AND IF I WERE ABLE TO BE PRESENT, THE VOTE WOULD BE NO TO ACCEPT SIGNED, UH, COMMISSIONER TERRY BARBER.

WE, WE SPOKE THURSDAY OR FRIDAY ON THE PHONE.

YEP.

VISIT FOR A LITTLE WHILE ON THE PHONE.

AND I KNOW LAST TIME YOU GUYS WERE IN HERE THAT WE DID VISIT AND, AND GAVE OUR VIEWPOINT FROM OUR END, ESPECIALLY US, UH, NOTHING AGAINST WHAT YOU DO FOR A LIVING, IT'S JUST LOOKING AT PROTECTING THE COUNTY FINANCIALLY AS WE GO FORWARD IN THE UNCERTAIN TIMES.

AND SO, UH, WITH THAT BEING SAID, UH, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO REHASH ALL THE STUFF WE SAID LAST TIME.

SO ANYWAY, IT IS JUST NOT GOOD TIMING FOR ME RIGHT NOW ON THIS TYPE OF PROJECT TO, TO GO FORWARD AND SAY I WOULD SUPPORT THAT.

SO I HAVE TO STAY THERE CUZ WE HAVE TO GET OUR STEP BUSINESS TAKEN CARE OF FIRST BEFORE WE MOVE ON.

SO, OKAY, MR. PHELPS.

WELL, IN MY CASE, I THINK YOU ALREADY KNOW IT.

I, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE COMPANIES COMING HERE.

I DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH GIVING 'EM MY MONEY AND I'VE ALWAYS HAD THAT PROBLEM.

MINE, MINE HAS NEVER VARIED FROM MUCH OF THAT.

UM, JUST CAUSE OF THE SIMPLE FACT THIS, LIKE, YOU'RE NOT PAYING YOUR SHARE, ESPECIALLY WITH NO JOBS AT ALL.

YOU KNOW, AT LEAST YOU HAVE AN EXCUSE.

YOU KNOW, IF A DEALERSHIP COMES HERE AND THEY EMPLOY 300 PEOPLE, WE HAVE SOME KIND OF BENEFIT SAYING WHY WE'RE GIVING AWAY OUR MONEY.

I MEAN, THAT'S JUST THE BOTTOM LINE.

I MEAN, CAUSE YOU KNOW, IF YOU RAISE ELECTRICITY, YOU KNOW, A A 10TH OF A PERCENT, YOU KNOW, YOU GAIN ALL THAT MONEY BACK AND 10 TIMES MORE.

BUT THE HOMEOWNER, YOU KNOW, HE, HE, HE HAS NO OPTION, BUT HE DOES HAVE AN OPTION TO CUT DOWN HIS ELECTRIC BELT A LITTLE BIT BY JUST TURNING OFF A FEW LIGHTS.

HE DOESN'T HAVE AN OPTION ON PROPERTY TAX.

THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO WAY THAT HE

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I MEAN, THAT'S THE ONLY WAY HE'S GONNA BE ABLE TO LOWER HIS PROPERTY TAX WITHOUT GOING BEFORE A BOARDING ARGUMENT, PERIOD.

SO, I MEAN, I'M SORRY.

I MEAN, THIS IS JUST SOMETHING I KNOW YOU SAY, WELL LISTEN GUYS, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE EITHER GOING TO BUILD THIS OR NOT IF YOU DON'T GIVE US MONEY.

SO SEE TO ME YOU'RE ALMOST BLACKMAILING US.

I I WOULDN'T LOOK AT THAT AS, AS WELL.

WELL, I, I AM, I'M, I'M SAYING, OH, YOU DON'T WANT TO COME HERE.

THE REASON PEOPLE ARE COMING HERE, THE REASON, THE REASON YOU'RE COMING HERE IS BECAUSE ALL OF A SUDDEN WE MUST BE THE CHEAPEST DISTRICT IN TOWN OR WE'RE THE ONES WITH THE MOST OPEN SPACE.

MAYBE THAT'S LEFT IN THIS AREA, I DON'T KNOW.

BUT IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN THERE'S A REASON AND IT'S JUST LIKE A STORE COMING TO TOWN.

WHY DO YOU GIVE 'EM ALL THE, ALL THE PERKS AND GIVE 'EM BACK THE TAX MONEY IF THE POPULATION THERE, THEY'RE COMING ANYWAY.

SO, I MEAN, YOU CAN ARGUE ALL DAY LONG, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO, IT, IT DOESN'T MOVE ME.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW.

SURE.

I GUESS MY REBUTTAL TO THAT THOUGH IS YOU'RE NOT GIVING AWAY TAX DOLLARS.

YOU, YOU CURRENTLY HAVE $652 A YEAR.

WE'RE OFFERING A BENEFIT OF AN ADDITIONAL 296,000 TO THE COUNTY ALONE, 1.4 MILLION ANNUALLY TO ALL TAXING JURISDICTIONS.

YOU'RE NOT GIVING THAT AWAY THAT YOU DON'T HAVE IT CURRENTLY.

WHAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE IS 652.

AND SO IT'S, IT'S NOT A SITUATION WHERE YOU'RE GIVING THOSE DOLLARS AWAY.

WE'RE OFFERING A BENEFIT AND WHY DON'T YOU JUST PAY THE AMOUNT? BECAUSE THE FULL AMOUNT IS NOT WHAT WE MODELED THIS PROJECT ON BASED ON OUR DISCUSSIONS IN NOVEMBER WHEN WE SPENT THE MONEY AND PURCHASED THE PROJECT.

AND SO ANY PERCENTAGE BELOW WHAT WE HAD DISCUSSED LAST NOVEMBER IS A LOSS TO THE COMPANY THAT HAS TO BE MADE UP SOMEWHERE ELSE.

UM, AND TO ASSUME THAT THE PROJECT IS GONNA EXCEED EXPECTATIONS ELSEWHERE IN THE FINANCIAL MODEL.

IT'S JUST, IT IS NOT REALISTIC.

BUT I GUESS ONE OTHER THING I WOULD ADD HERE, YOU KNOW, AS CONSTITUENTS SAY THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD RATHER NOT SUPPORT THIS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE LILY SOLAR PROJECT AS SCURRY.

THAT PROJECT IS THE NUMBER TWO TAXPAYER IN THE COUNTY BASED ON VALUATION.

IT'S NUMBER ONE IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

IT'S NUMBER TWO I BELIEVE ROAD AND BRIDGE.

IT DOES NOT PULL SIGNIFICANT SERVICES FROM THE COUNTY THAT AS WE TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HERE WEEKLY, THAT AS THERE'S MORE GROWTH IN THE COUNTY.

BACK UP A MINUTE, IT'S THE NUMBER TWO TAXPAYER IN THE COUNTY.

THAT IS CORRECT.

BASED ON THE VALUATION ON, UH, THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT RECORDS, LILLY SOLAR, UH, IS SECOND ONLY TO THE LAW FIRM TERRA POWER PLANT.

WHERE WILL, WHERE WILL IT BE IN YEAR 15 OR 20 BASED ON THOSE PROJECTIONS? WELL, SO WHEN IT, IT HAS A 3 81 AGREEMENT IN PLACE AND WHEN IT COMES OFF THAT AGREEMENT AT YEAR 10, UH, I BELIEVE IT'S STILL A TOP FOUR.

AND IF IT CAME OFF TODAY, NO, WHO KNOWS WHAT ELSE IS BUILT.

HOPEFULLY IF THIS PROJECT WERE TO BE BUILT, IT WOULD EXCEED THAT THIS PROJECT WOULD BE, THE PROJECT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY WOULD BE THE NUMBER TWO.

UH, IT WOULD TAKE LILLY SOLAR'S PLACE AS NUMBER TWO IF IT'S CONSTRUCTED.

SO AS YOU KNOW, AS WE TALK ABOUT MORE PEOPLE COMING AND PULLING MORE RESOURCES, WHETHER IT'S FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT OR EMERGENCY SERVICE OR WATER, ROADS, INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADES, THIS IS POTENTIALLY THE NUMBER TWO TAXPAYER IN THE COUNTY COMING THAT'S NOT PULLING THOSE SERVICES, THAT'S NOT REQUESTING ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FROM THE COUNTY.

AND SO FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE THE NUMBER TWO TAXPAYER AND THE COUNTY WOULD NOT SAY WE WOULD LIKE MORE OF THAT, MORE TAX DOLLARS IN THAT SCENARIO THAT AREN'T PULLING SIGNIFICANT SERVICES FROM US COMPARED TO MOST OF THE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR TAX DOLLARS.

UM, IT'S JUST A SIGNIFICANT BENEFIT.

THE LILLY SOLAR PROJECT, THIS PROJECT ABLE SPRINGS WOULD BE EVEN A GREATER BENEFIT CUZ WE'RE TALKING WAY, WAY LESS REBATE FROM THE 3 81 AGREEMENT AND I BELIEVE A HIGHER VALUATION AS WELL.

MARKET VALUE.

AND IF WE'D SPEAK TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS REALLY QUICK, I KNOW CLARK MENTIONED THAT, UH, THAT LILLY IS THE NUMBER ONE TAXPAYER IN SECURITY ROSTER ISD.

THIS PROJECT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY, ABLE SPRINGS WOULD BE THE NUMBER ONE TAXPAYER IN TERRORIZED D BY A MARGIN OF ALMOST 400%.

UM, SO IT'S, IT'S PRETTY SIGNIFICANT.

UH, THESE TWO PROJECTS COMBINED.

UH, THE BATTERY AS WELL AS THE SOLAR WOULD PAY 30 MILLION OVER 30 YEARS.

TOTER ISD.

UM, SO IT'S VERY SIGNIFICANT TAX DOLLARS.

UH, AND OF COURSE DUE

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IT'S PRETTY SIGNIFICANT.

AND I KNOW THAT WE KNOW HOW THE STATE WORKS AND HOW MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS TAXES, UH, WORK FOR A SCHOOL DISTRICT.

BUT THE IN NS TAXES, THEY HAVE A LARGE INS TAX RATE TO SERVICE THEIR DEBT.

AS YOU KNOW, THEY KEEP ALL OF THAT MONEY.

UM, SO ABOUT A THIRD OF THE TOTAL TAX DOLLARS THAT WOULD GO TO TERRORIZE D FROM THIS PROJECT GOES STRAIGHT TO THEIR DEBT SERVICE.

UH, WHICH IS HUGELY BENEFICIAL IN ALLOWING THEM TO, UH, ACCELERATE PAYMENTS ON DEBT, TAKE ON NEW DEBT, UH, CAPITAL GROWS PROJECTS, ET CETERA.

SO NOW ARE YOU MODELING THAT AFTER THE SCURRY PROJECT ON THE SCHOOL DISTRICT? SO THE SCURRY PROJECT HAS A, HAS A THREE 13 AS YOU KNOW, UH, THIS PROJECT IS THREE 13 HAS BEEN DONE AWAY WITH.

RIGHT.

AND THIS PROJECT, ABLE SPRINGS DOES NOT HAVE A THREE 13, SO IT'S GONNA PAY FULL FREIGHT, UM, TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ON ALL JURISDICTIONS DISTRICT BANK.

AND I WOULD ADD, I I KNOW I DON'T WANNA BEAT A DEAD HORSE CUZ WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE DEPRECIATION ON THIS PROJECT.

RIGHT.

EVEN ONCE FULLY DEPRECIATED AND ONCE THE AGREEMENT ENDS IN YEAR SEVEN, IT WOULD STILL BE THE LARGEST TAXPAYER IN TERRORIZED HONESTY SEVEN YEARS LATER, MR. HUNT.

WELL, I I REALLY WISH MY HOUSE WOULD DEPRECIATE LIKE THIS , BUT YOU KNOW, THE NU THE NUMBERS ARE ALL UP UPFRONT AND YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT THAT.

AND THE NUMBERS SOUND BIG AND WE START OUT RECEIVING SOME BENEFITS IN FRONT, BUT ONCE THE, THE VALUE DEPRECIATES THAT THE NUMBERS REALLY GO DOWN, YOU KNOW, SO, BUT I, I JUST, I KIND OF AGREE WITH WHAT COMMISSIONER MOORE SAID THAT THE TIMING'S JUST NOT RIGHT.

RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, THE CLIMATE AND ANDTO.

UM, I'M, I'M INCLINED TO SUPPORT COMMISSIONER BARBER AS HIS PRECINCT AND, UH, SO SUPPORT HIS WISHES AND, BUT MY COMMENTS KIND OF MIRROR WHAT COMMISSIONER BAR WAS SAYING.

SO WHAT WOULD YOU FORESEE HAVING TO CHANGE AS YOU TALK ABOUT THE TIMING AND THE CLIMATE OF THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT, WHAT WOULD YOU FORESEE NEEDING TO CHANGE FOR, FOR THAT SENTIMENT TO CHANGE? UH, A LOT OF THE PEOPLE RIGHT NOW, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, TERRELL'S GOING THROUGH A LOT OF STUFF WITH ANNEXATION AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE STARTING TO LOOK AT A LOT OF THE TERRORS AGREEMENTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO IT'S JUST THE, THE PUBLIC PERCEPTION OF WHAT WE'RE DOING OUT THERE IS, IS IS NOT NOT GOOD RIGHT NOW.

YOU KNOW, SO, BUT YOU KNOW, MY BIG PROBLEM IS THIS DEPRECIATION OVER TIME, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THE VALUES.

SO, BUT EVEN AT THAT DEPRECIATION, IT'S STILL THE LARGEST TAXPAYER IN SOME JURISDICTIONS, UH, AND ONE OF THE TOP FEW IN ALL JURISDICTIONS.

EVEN EVEN AT THAT DEPRECIATION SCHEDULE.

UM, IT, IT'S JUST HARD FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND FROM THAT SIDE OF, OF THE, UH, ROOM HERE NOT WANTING TO BRING MORE OF THOSE TYPES OF TAX DOLLARS AND PROJECTS TO THE COUNTY.

YEAH.

NOW WHEN YOU SAY THAT, LET ME ASK YOU THIS REAL QUICK.

ARE YOU SAYING TO US THAT IF WE DON'T DO THIS, THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA DO THIS BUSINESS? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? THAT, UH, THE TAXPAYERS IS THE DECIDING FACTOR ON WHETHER YOU DO THIS PROJECT OR NOT? CAUSE I KNOW THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S GIVEN SUBSIDIZING FUNDING FOR THIS GREEN ENERGY.

I KNOW, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT WITH Y'ALL AND, UH, THE POWER COMPANY TO STORE THIS ENERGY.

SO YEAH.

PROFITS COMING IN FROM DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.

SO WHEN YOU SAY, WHY WOULD Y'ALL PASS ON THIS, IF WE DON'T GIVE YOU THE REBATE, WE GET DOUBLE WHAT YOU'RE OFFERING BECAUSE YOU'RE STILL GONNA BUILD A PROJECT ANYWAY.

MM-HMM.

.

SO, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE CITIZENS ARE DETERMINING WHETHER YOU ARE GOING TO DO THIS PROJECT OR NOT? I MEAN, WHAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY, WHEN WE PURCHASED THE PROJECT, WE MODELED THE 70% REBATE OVER A 10 YEAR TERM.

AND AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, ANYTHING BELOW THAT'S A NEGATIVE FINANCIAL HIT TO THE PROJECT.

SO AS YOU MENTIONED, OTHER BENEFITS THAT THE GOVERNMENT OFFERS FOR THESE TYPES OF SUSTAINABLE RENEWABLE PROJECTS, THE, THOSE WERE FACTORED IN AT THE TIME OF THE PURCHASE.

YEAH, BUT I'M, I MEAN, THE QUESTION WAS, YES.

ARE YOU SAYING THAT IF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT DOES NOT AGREE TO GIVE YOU AN EMBANKMENT THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA DO THIS PROJECT? WE, IF, IF WE ARE NOT ABLE TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT, WE, WE ARE POSTPONING CONSTRUCTION.

AND THEN THE QUESTION AT THAT POINT IS, IS CONSTRUCTION POSTPONED OUT OF THIS? IT'S POSTPONED OUT OF THIS YEAR.

IS IT POSTPONED TILL NEXT YEAR? IS IT CANCELED INDEFINITELY? BUT ABSOLUTELY, WE WILL NOT BE CONSTRUCTING THIS PROJECT THIS YEAR AS WE HAD PREVIOUSLY PROPOSED.

THE PROJECT WOULD NOT BE PROVIDING THE INITIAL BENEFITS THAT IT WOULD, AND THEN AT THAT POINT, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT A NEW WAY THAT THIS PROJECT COULD RECOUP THAT LOSS VALUE IN TAX REVENUE.

BUT THEN AT THAT POINT ALSO RECOUP VALUE THAT WE'VE LOST FROM POSTPONING GETTING THIS PROJECT OPERATIONAL.

SO

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BUT ALSO THE, THE DELAY OF CONSTRUCTION IS GOING TO COST US AS WELL.

SO THERE'S TWO ASPECTS WHERE WE'D HAVE TO IMPROVE THE FINANCIAL MODEL.

SO YES, ABSOLUTELY WE WILL BE POSTPONING CONSTRUCTION AT LEAST OUT OF THIS YEAR IF IT'S NOT CANCELED.

UH, IF WE'RE NOT ABLE TO WORK OUT SOMETHING, UH, ON THE 3 81 AGREEMENT, JUST BECAUSE OF THE FINANCIAL HIT TO THE PROJECT, THE PROJECT MARGINS MUST BE VERY, VERY MINIMAL IN THE ELECTRIC BUSINESS.

WELL, WE PURCHASED THIS PROJECT POINT MILLION OVER, OVER AS AS OPPOSED TO IF WE 15 YEARS DEVELOPED IT OURSELF, UM, WE PURCHASED THIS AND THERE'S A LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS BAKED INTO THAT.

AND THIS IS TIPPING THE SCALE, UH, IN THE WAY OF 1.4 OVER 15 YEARS.

RIGHT.

OVER 15.

THIS IS SEVEN YEAR AGREEMENT.

OKAY, WELL I'VE GOT 15 YEAR ON THIS PROPOSAL YOU SENT ME GOES OVER 15 YEARS.

YOU GOT A NEW ONE? YEAH.

GOT, I KNOW SOME COUNTIES WE HAD TALKED ABOUT PRIOR YOU'RE ONLY DOING 35% AND YOU'RE COMING BACK 45%.

THEY FOUR 35% M AND O ONLY? YES.

OKAY.

I MEAN, IF, I MEAN THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S YOU OR NOT, BUT THE ONE IN BELL COUNTY, Y'ALL DID, WHOEVER WAS 35% ON THE, ON THE, SO I CAN SPEAK TO THAT.

SO IN BELL COUNTY, UH, YOU'RE RIGHT.

THE, THE REGIME THAT THEY'VE, UH, CURRENTLY PARTICIPATED IN WITH RENEWABLE PROJECTS, BATTERY PROJECTS HAS BEEN 10 YEARS, 35% OF THEIR ENTIRE TAX RATE.

UM, WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS SEVEN YEARS, 45% ON JUST THE M AND O PORTION.

SO WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING ON THE ROAD AND BRIDGE ANYTHING FOR THE I NS.

UM, SO IT'S, IT, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS ACTUALLY LESS THAN WHAT BELL COUNTY DOES.

I I JUST KNOW THE JUDGE TOLD ME IT WAS M AND O ONLY, SO IT'S YES, I APOLOGIZE.

THEIR M AND O IS, IS 90% OF THEIR TAX RATE, IF NOT MORE.

SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A LARGE, THEY, THEY TAKE EVERYTHING OUTTA THEIR .

THEY HAVE IT ALL LUMPED TOGETHER.

WE HAVE A SEPARATE TAX.

OKAY.

PARKED FOR OUR ROAD AND BRIDGE.

THEY HAVE, THEY TAKE IT OUTTA THEIR MINO GENERAL FUND FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE.

I BELIEVE WHERE WE ARE AT HERE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WE'RE IT'S ABOUT 25% OVERALL.

DOES THAT SOUND IT'S ABOUT 25% OF THE TOTAL COUNTY TAXES.

YES.

BUT 45% SEVEN YEARS STRICTLY ON THE M AND O IF WE LOOK AT IT JUST ISOLATED TO THAT ONE RATE.

OKAY.

GENTLEMEN, WHAT'S YOUR, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? THESE GENTLEMEN COME A LONG WAY.

WE NEED TO GIVE THEM AN ANSWER NO, THIS YEAR, MAYBE NEXT YEAR OR WE'RE ALREADY, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT I THINK, I THINK WE NEED TO GIVE 'EM AN ANSWER THIS THE THIRD TIME THEY'RE UP HERE.

UH, AND I, AGAIN, THE OTHER DAY WHEN YOU AND I WERE TALKING ON THE PHONE, UH, WE WAS TALKING ABOUT YOUR PERSPECTIVE OF YOUR BUSINESS MODEL AND I SPOKE ABOUT MY PERSPECTIVE OF THE COUNTY.

YOU'RE LOOK, YOU'RE LOOKING OUT FOR YOUR COMPANY.

I'M LOOKING OUT FOR THE COUNTY.

OKAY.

UH, NEITHER ONE OF US ARE INCORRECT IN THAT, UH, ONE THING, THE REASON I ASKED YOU THAT QUESTION WILL GO ABOUT, WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THIS ON THE PHONE THE OTHER DAY, THAT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE TAXPAYERS OF COLTON COUNTY SHOULD BE THE DECIDING FACTOR WHETHER A PRIVATE BUSINESS IS GONNA SUCCEED OR FAIL.

OKAY.

GOING INTO, THIS IS THE NEW GUY THAT'S TALK TO US.

PRIVATES, NO, PRIVATES, NO.

SO WHY ARE WE SPENDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO PRIVATE BUSINESSES, UH, WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE OUR BUDGET WORK? SO IT'S NOT NOTHING AGAINST THE TYPE OF PROJECT, IT AIN'T NOTHING AGAINST, IT'S JUST, IT'S NOT THE RIGHT TIMING.

WE HAVE TO LOOK OUT FOR THE COUNTY FIRST.

SO IN THE RESULTS OF THAT, I CANNOT SUPPORT THIS AND MY VOTE WOULD BE NO AS WELL.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO TAKE THE VOTE OR, WELL, IS THERE A VOTE? IS, IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITY IF WE GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD HERE, YOU MENTIONED THE 35% AND YOU KNOW, UNLESS THERE'S A CHANGE OF SENTIMENT AS WE TALK OR EMAIL OUTSIDE OF THE COURTROOM, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T BRING ANYTHING BACK UNLESS THE COMMISSIONER SAY, OKAY, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, TABLE WOULD NOT BE THE RIGHT TERM FOR NOW, BUT TAKE NO ACTION ON THIS CUZ I JUST, I DON'T FEEL THAT IF, IF THE GENERAL PUBLIC UNDERSTOOD THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PROJECT BEING CONSTRUCTED AND NOT CONSTRUCTED AND WHAT THAT DOES TO THE TAX PICTURE IN KAUFMAN COUNTY, I JUST DON'T THINK THEY WOULD BE MAKING THE SAME STATEMENTS THAT THEY'RE MAKING WITHOUT THAT INFORMATION.

SO MY, MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE THAT WE TOOK NO ACTION AND THEN JUST DID NOT PROCEED HERE UNLESS THERE WAS A CHANGE OF SENTIMENT AMONG COMMISSIONERS.

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WE CAN TAKE NO ACTION, WE CAN TAKE NO ACTION.

IT'S, IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL.

BUT I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA COME BACK AND SAY, SAY ONE THING.

YOU KNOW AT SOME POINT, AT SOME POINT YOU HAVE TO QUIT GIVING WILLIAM AND OWE MONEY.

I KNOW YOU THINK THIS SOUNDS HARSH, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS IT'S SEVEN 10 AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ELECTRICITY THAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO ALL OF A SUDDEN START BUILDING MORE OF THEM BECAUSE GUESS WHAT, THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION WANTS ALL ELECTRIC CARS BY 30 30, 20 30 OR WHATEVER.

AND HE DOESN'T REALIZE THERE'S 25 MILLION REGISTERED GAS CARS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

SURE.

YOU CAN'T REPLACE 25 MILLION CARS IN THREE OR FOUR, FIVE YEARS.

THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE.

BUT AT THAT RATE, EVERYWHERE YOU TURN, ELECTRICITY IS GOING TO START POPPING UP SOMEHOW.

SOME WAY THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE MORE AND MORE PLANTS, MORE AND MORE STRUCTURE FOR ELECTRICITY.

THERE IS NO QUESTION.

BUT IF WE GIVE IT A WALL AWAY IN M AND O, THE GUYS DOWN THE STREET FROM US EIGHT, 10 YEARS FROM NOW, THEY'RE GONNA BE IN REAL TROUBLE ON M AND O.

IF WE'VE GAVE ALL THE MONEY AWAY FOR ANYWHERE FROM 5, 10, 15, 20, 30 YEARS, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST GETTING CARRIED AWAY.

YOU CAN'T JUST KEEP GIVING IT AWAY.

CUZ THE ONLY PERSON WHO'S GONNA PAY FOR IT IS THE HOMEOWNER SOMEWHERE.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PUT A STOP TO IT AND SAY, GUYS, YOU GOTTA PAY YOUR SHERIFF.

YOU'RE COMING HERE, ESPECIALLY TO COMPANIES THAT PROBABLY THE THE ADMINISTRATION THAT'S IN THE OFFICE NOW, YOU DON'T TELL 'EM WHEN, BUT ANY DAY NOW THEY'RE GOING TO TURN UP THE HEAT AND GIVE Y'ALL MORE MONEY THAN YOU CAN STAND FOR TO BUILD PROJECTS.

AND WE ALL KNOW THIS, WE ALREADY KNOW THAT'S COMING.

YOU MAY KNOW SOMETHING WE DON'T KNOW THEN, BUT I KNOW.

I'M JUST SAYING HOW ELSE IS IT GONNA GET IT BUILT? OKAY, WELL LET'S CALL FOR A VOTE.

YEAH.

AND THERE'S, THERE'S NO SENSE IN TRACKING IT OUT.

MAKE A MOTION, WHATEVER.

MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CALL FOR A VOTE.

I SECOND.

IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T PUT IT BACK.

NEED A MOTION.

I DON'T KNOW.

I'D LIKE TO CALL FOR A VOTE.

YOU WANNA CALL FOR A VOTE? YES.

AND YOUR VOTE IS NO MOTION.

I SECONDED HIS MOTION.

WHAT DID HE SAY? HE SECOND MOTION.

HE SAID HE MADE A MOTION AND I SECONDED IT.

OKAY.

I'M SORRY.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, NEED A VOTE, SAY NO.

NO.

MR. HUNT? NO, NO, NO.

OKAY.

I'LL TALK TO YOU LATER.

THANK YOU GENTLEMEN.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

NO MA'AM.

DO WE NEED TO DISCUSS NUMBER SEVEN? WE NEED TO PASS ON NUMBER SEVEN.

I THINK WE WRAPPED IT IN.

OKAY.

PASS ON NUMBER SEVEN THEN.

NUMBER

[8. Lynn Fanion; Present/Accept the Collection's Department monthly and quarterly reports.]

YES MA'AM.

GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING.

UM, FOR THE FIRST QUARTER AND 2023, UM, OUR TOTAL COLLECTIONS UM, WAS $304,894 AND 14 CENTS.

THAT IS 19.99% INCREASE FROM THE PREVIOUS QUARTER, THE LAST QUARTER IN 2022.

AND UH, IT'S A DECREASE UP 3.98% OVER THE SAME PERIOD IN 2020.

SHOULD BE 22 2.

YES.

THAT'S A TYPO.

OKAY.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. LYNN? IF NOT, NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT? I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR MOTION.

MR. PHELPS.

NEED A SECOND? MR. SECOND.

MORE SECONDS.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU LYNN.

NUMBER NINE, MS. TERESA FLOYD

[9. Teressa Floyd; Discuss/Consider approving the assessment collection contracts between Kaufman County and 9th Street Residential Partnership Capital Public Improvement District #3, 9,h Street Residential Partnership Capital Public Improvement District #4, City of Oak Ridge, Crossroads Public Improvement District, Crossroads Center Public Improvement District Phase II, Crossroads Northwest Public Improvement District No. 5, Kaufman ISD, Market Center Public Improvement District, Scurry Rosser ISD, and Terrell ISD.]

I JUST NEED TO GET AN APPROVAL TO GO INTO A CONTRACT TO COLLECT TAXES FOR THESE UH, JURISDICTIONS.

SAME PERCENTAGES AND EVERYTHING CHANGED.

SAME.

NOTHING.

NOTHING.

SAME THING IS THE LAST CONTRACT.

YES.

I CHARGE EVERYBODY THE SAME DON'T WE? THAT'S RIGHT.

YEAH.

ANY DISCUSSION? I NEED

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MR. HUNT MAKES A MOTION.

NEED A SECOND? SECOND.

MR. PHELPS MAKES SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR AND SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION IS CARRIED.

[10. Teressa Floyd; Present/Accept the Tax Assessor-Collector's monthly Property Tax Collections report for March 2023.]

YES MA'AM.

OKAY, SO OUR CURRENT COLLECTIONS ARE AT 1 MILLION 111 8 93 66 FOR THE MONTH OF MARCH AND OUR DELINQUENT WAS 106,000 4 66 54.

SO A TOTAL COLLECTED FOR KAUFMAN COUNTY, UH, FOR MARCH WAS 1 MILLION 2 18 360 20.

UH, WE HAVE 108,000 179 49 IN UNPAID DEFERRAL.

UH, SO THE ROAD AND BRIDGE ON THE CURRENT WAS 219,000 6 0 180 8 DELINQUENT 20 2007 1632 FOR A TOTAL COLLECTION OF 2 42 3 18 20.

AND UNPAID DEFERRALS FOR THAT WOULD BE 19,000 297 24.

WE DID 5,802 TRANSACTIONS FOR THE MONTH OF MARCH AND WE DID HAVE SOME ROLLBACK, UH, IN PRECINCT TWO AND FOUR PERCENTAGE LAST WERE WITH THIS YEAR.

WE'RE PAST LAST YEAR.

YEAH.

WE'RE STILL THIS RIGHT AT THE SAME AS LAST YEAR AS FROM THIS YEAR, RIGHT AT THE 95%.

YEAH, WE'RE RIGHT THERE.

A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, ABOVE ON OUR DELINQUENT COLLECTIONS IT LOOKS LIKE JUST A LITTLE BIT.

WHAT ABOUT THE PROPERTIES IN DISPUTE? WHERE ARE WE ON THOSE? THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN DISPUTE? THOSE, UM, THOSE ARE COMING IN.

THERE'S NOT VERY MANY OF THOSE IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ONES FOR THE NOT, RIGHT? YES, YES.

THERE'S NOT VERY MANY OF THOSE.

SO THE REST OF 'EM CAME IN ON A SUPPLEMENT.

WE'RE GETTING THOSE READY RIGHT NOW.

OKAY? YES.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS? NOPE.

IF NOT, I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

MR. MOORE MAKES A MOTION.

NEED A SECOND? ONE SECOND.

MR. PHILLIPS MAKES SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES MS. FLOYD ONCE AGAIN, NUMBER 11 PRESENT

[11. Teressa Floyd; Present/Accept the Tax Assessor-Collector's monthly Auto Collections report for March 2023.]

YES MA'AM.

OKAY, SO FOR THE MONTH OF MARCH WE COLLECTED 303 MILLION 289 6 84 25 IN, UH, VEHICLE SALES, TAX REGISTRATION AND TITLE FEES.

UH, WE PAID OUT 175,000, $27 AND 40 CENTS TO THE COUNTY OF THAT THAT WE COLLECTED FOR THE MONTH.

SO, UM, WE DID, LIKE I SAID, WE DID A LOT OF TRANSACTIONS, BUT THE COUNTY'S GROWING A LOT.

SO, BUT OUR NUMBERS ARE DOWN FROM LAST YEAR.

OUR NUMBERS ARE DOWN FROM LAST YEAR.

OF COURSE THAT COULD GO YOUR, THAT'S GONNA PROBABLY BE YOUR SALES IN USE YOUR, YOU KNOW, YOUR SALES AND USE TAX ON YOUR SOLD VEHICLES.

THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE, THEY DIDN'T SELL AS MANY VEHICLES, SO THEREFORE YOUR YOUR FEES ARE GONNA BE DOWN.

YEAH.

THEY GET THE MAJORITY OF THAT MONEY ANYWAY.

A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T IN THE YEAR BEFORE.

DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY WAITED UNTIL THE END OF LAST YEAR TO CATCH UP FROM THE COVID, I GUESS.

RIGHT? THEY GOT A LOT OF, THERE WAS A LOT OF, LOT OF REGISTRATION GOING ON IN THE YEAH, THERE REALLY WAS CATCH UP.

YEAH.

FROM GOVERNMENT ALLOW TO SKIP ALL THE YEAH, THERE REALLY WAS.

SO ALL THAT IS, YEAH, A LOT OF THAT.

OKAY.

SO I NEED A MOTION NUMBER 11.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

MR. PHELPS MAKES A MOTION.

YOU A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

MR. MOORE MAKES A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU TERESA.

THANK, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU TERESA.

MR. NATHAN COLLINS, UP NEXT, DISCUSS,

[12. Nathan Collins; Discuss/Consider adjusting base pay for the Tyler Technologies Specialist and Senior Field Technician.]

YES SIR.

YES SIR.

SO I WANTED TO START BY, UH, I'VE ALREADY GONE TO THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE AND IT WAS HER RECOMMENDATION THAT I JUST COME UP HERE FOR TRANSPARENCY.

UH, THE ADJUSTMENTS ON THESE TWO POSITIONS WON'T HAVE ANY IMPACT ON MY BUDGET.

UM, WHAT I'M DOING IS, UH, SLIGHTLY LOWERING THE TYLER TECHNO TECHNOLOGIES POSITION, UH, BASE PAY AND SLIGHTLY UPPING THE, UH, MY SENIOR FIELD TECHNICIAN PAY.

UM, AND THE REASON WHY I KIND OF WANTED TO DO THIS IS BECAUSE, UH, THE TYLER TECHNOLOGIES POSITION, UM, THERE'S TWO KIND OF DUTIES, UH, THAT THEY'LL HAVE.

ONE IS A TECHNICAL, UM, ASSISTANCE SIDE OF HIS JOB.

AND, UM, CURRENTLY MY SENIOR FIELD TECHNICIAN DOES THAT PART.

UM, AND HE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT PART.

SO, AND ACTUALLY WHEN THEY, WHEN HE, WHEN THIS NEW PERSON STARTS, MY SENIOR FAIL FIELD TECHNICIAN WILL DO A LOT OF TRAINING.

SO I DIDN'T FEEL RIGHT TO PAY THE PERSON THAT'S TRAINING THE NEW PERSON LOWER THAN, UM, A NEW ONE.

IT'S A SLIGHT ADJUSTMENT ON BOTH SALARIES.

SO, UM, IT, IT SHOULDN'T, SHOULDN'T BE TOO MUCH

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SO I MEAN I, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO WITH YOUR PEOPLE.