[1. To discuss the FY23-24 annual budget with department heads.]
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MATT ALREADY TOLD ME HE DIDN'T WANT ANYTHING.
WELL, LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE.
WE'LL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
IT IS JUNE THE 21ST, AND WE'RE OUR SECOND DAY OF HEARINGS FOR THE BUDGET.
SO FIRST UP TODAY WE HAVE CONSTABLE WOODALL.
HOW ARE Y'ALL? ALL RIGHT, GREAT.
SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE NOT TALKING SALARIES TODAY.
THAT'LL BE THE NEXT ROUND OF WORKSHOPS.
SO WE'RE JUST ANY EQUIPMENT AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
ISSUES AND PROJECTIONS FOR THE FUTURE.
ALRIGHT, WELL I THINK, UH, Y'ALL HAVE, THEY RING WHOLE, SHE'S TRYING TO FIND IT.
I'M ON 58 IT PRECINCT THREE CONSTABLE NOW.
UH, NO CHANGES, UH, FROM LAST YEAR, UH, LAST BUDGET TO THIS BUDGET.
UM, I JUST, I, I GUESS THE BIG NUMBERS, I JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN.
I, I THINK WE, UH, WE DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO DO THAT LAST YEAR.
SO, UH, FUEL BUDGET, THAT 29,000, I DIDN'T CHANGE IT FROM LAST YEAR, BUT, UH, HOW I GET TO THAT NUMBER IS I TAKE BASICALLY THE HIGHEST MONTH I HAD TO, TO DATE IN THIS BUDGET.
UM, WHICH THAT WAS, I THINK JUST A LITTLE OVER $2,000 FOR ONE MONTH.
UH, I MULTIPLY IT, UH, BY 12 AND ADD ABOUT 15%.
SO THAT'S HOW I GET MY FUEL NUMBER.
SO FAR YOU, AS OF MARCH, YOU'RE GONNA USE 12,000.
SO YOU MAY OR MAY NOT HIT THE 29.
AND, AND I THINK I'M GONNA WAY, I'M PROJECTING IT.
UM, BUT I HAD FOUR MONTHS WHERE I ONLY, UH, I DIDN'T ONLY RAN THREE CARS.
BECAUSE I HAD AN OPENING WHEN KYLE GROSS WENT TO PRECINCT FOUR.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S, UH, THERE'S A REASON THERE.
ABOUT FOUR MONTHS OF ONE LESS SQUAD.
BUT YOU'RE FULL NOW? I'M FULL.
UM, NOTHING ELSE HAS CHANGED, UH, ON, ON THAT SHEET.
AND YOU PARKED IN LABOR, YOU HAVE LEASE CARS? NO.
I HAVE, UH, TWO LEFT AND, UH, YOU KNOW, ONE, I'M GONNA SAY ONE OF MY EIGHTEENS THIS YEAR WE PROBABLY SPENT $2,000 ON IT, YOU KNOW, BATTERY WIRING HARNESS BURNING UP AND OH YEAH.
SO, UM, THAT'S WHY WITH THOSE TWO CARS, ONE OF 'EM ALMOST GOT A HUNDRED ON IT.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHEN I'M GOING TO REPLACE 'EM.
I'VE HAD A TAHOE ORDERED SINCE NOVEMBER AND IT HADN'T BEEN BUILT YET.
IS IT ORDERED THROUGH THE LEASE THING OR THIS IT'S ENTERPRISE.
THE PO WAS ISSUED THE THIRD OR 4TH OF NOVEMBER ON A BLACK TAHOE, AND IT HASN'T BEEN BUILT YET.
SO
DON'T, DON'T HAVE A GOOD ANSWER FOR 'EM ANYMORE.
THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO TO, UH, UH, SOME KIND OF, YOU KNOW, LITTLE, BUT I HAVE, I HAVE THREE SMART CAR OR SOMETHING.
I HAVE THREE COUNTY CARS, STILL A 16 AND TWO EIGHTEENS.
YOU SHOULD HAVE A LOT OF MILES ON IT BY NOW.
I WAS JUST WONDERED ABOUT SOMETHING HERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS AT IRVING PD, WE USED TO DO A DEAL WITH DPS AND THEY, THEY'D ALWAYS GET THEIR CARS FIRST BEFORE ANYBODY ELSE.
AND, AND THEY WOULD JUST ADD OUR ORDER TO THEIRS.
I WONDER IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK AT IT, IT MIGHT SAVE US SOME MONEY AND AT LEAST GET 'EM DECENT VEHICLES SOONER.
IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK AT, THAT WE COULD DO IS TAG ONTO THEIR DEAL.
WHAT THEY WERE DOING WAS TAGGING ON TO THEIR CONTRACT.
AND THAT'S, WE STILL DO THAT STUFF, BUT THE PROBLEM IS THEY'RE ACTUALLY MAKING AN ORDER.
WE'RE JUST DOING IT FOR PRICE.
AND THEY WEREN'T TOO IRVING WAS.
IT WASN'T MAKING 'EM SPEED UP BACK THEN.
THEY WERE HAPPY TO DELIVER 'EM.
SO YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM.
WE USE ALMOST EVERYTHING EITHER STATE OF TEXAS PRICE, YOU KNOW, LIKE OUR FIRESTONE OR SOMETHING NOW.
WE USE ANYTHING WE CAN PIGGYBACK OFF OF OR JACK WILL NOT ME.
AND THAT'S WHY WE DID THOSE, YOU KNOW, JUST I'M SAYING WE AS A COUNTY, I'M NOT SAYING ME CUZ I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.
I THINK THAT'S WHY LIKE US PUTTING THAT PURCHASING AGREEMENTS IN PLAY.
THAT'LL HELP US ALSO, IF WE FIND AN AGENCY LIKE THAT, THEN WE CAN ALWAYS, THEN WE'LL PIGGYBACK OFF THEIR, DO THAT AS WELL WITH US.
AND I KNOW HE'S WORKING WITH ENTERPRISE AND HE'S DOING WITH THE TIRES RIGHT NOW.
AND THAT'S WHAT, YOU KNOW, IF THE FIRESTONE IN DOES ALL THE GPS AND ALL THE STATE PROTECT ROAD TIRES, EVERY TRACTOR, TIRES, ANYTHING.
SO, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, AND CONSTABLE WOODALL.
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A QUOTE ON, UH, MOTOROLA.YOU DID NOT INCLUDE THAT IN THE BUDGET.
WELL, THEN YOU NEED TO EXPLAIN TO THEM WHAT YOU NEED.
CUZ I PUT THE QUOTE IN THE BOOK FOR YOU.
TELL EVERYBODY I NEED IT, WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
SO, UM, UH, MID-SPRING WE WERE NOTIFIED, UH, BY MOTOROLA, WHICH WAS, WAS WATCHGUARD.
IT'S NOW MOTOROLA THAT OUR, UH, OUR, UH, IN CAR AND BODY CAMS ARE END OF LIFE AS OF JUNE 30TH OF THIS YEAR.
SO FROM JUNE 30TH OF THIS YEAR UNTIL FOREVER, I GUESS.
UM, THEY'RE NOT GONNA SUPPORT ANY SOFTWARE, IF ANYTHING BREAKS, WE CAN'T GET PARTS, ANYTHING.
SO THAT'S OUR PROBLEM TO DEAL WITH BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.
UM, SO I REACHED OUT TO MOTOROLA, UH, AND TALKED WITH, UH, A REGIONAL SALES MANAGER.
HIS NAME'S, UH, BLAKE GALLOWAY.
UM, BUT I, I JUST HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY, UM, WHY DO WE NEED THIS? YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE THING TO SEND ME A BILL FOR $29,000, BUT I NEED TO TALK TO SOMEBODY TO KNOW WHY.
SO, UH, I'M JUST GONNA READ YOU AN EMAIL THAT WAS SENT BY THEM.
UM, IT SAYS YOUR CURRENT BODY-WORN CAMERA MODEL, AS WELL AS YOUR DIGITAL EVIDENCE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, WHICH IS HOW WE DOWNLOAD THE CAMERAS AND THE BODY CAMS HAVE BOTH GONE END OF LIFE DUE TO THERE BE BEING NO WAY TO ADD, UH, OR REPLACE ANY OF YOUR BODY WORN CAMERAS.
AND THERE IS NO FURTHER SUPPORT OF EVIDENCE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.
UM, SO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO UPGRADE BODY CAMERAS AND, UH, D E M S AND I BELIEVE THAT'S GONNA BE THE INCAR SYSTEM, UH, SOLUTION TO CURRENT, UH, UH, VERSIONS WHILE LEVERAGING THE INVESTMENT MADE IN THE INCAR, UH, VIDEO SYSTEMS BY BRINGING THOSE WITH YOU TO THE NEW SYSTEM.
THUS SAVING AND IMMENSE AMOUNT OF MONEY, WHICH WE'RE GONNA USE THE SAME INCAR THAT WE HAVE.
WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO PAY FOR SOFT GRADE UPGRADE.
SO THEY WON'T BE PUTTING NEW THINGS IN THE CAR.
UM, HE SAID THE ROUTE THAT, THAT WE HAVE PROPOSED, THIS IS THE ROUTE WE'VE POED HERE.
SO I, I ASKED HIM, SINCE I WAS PRETTY SURE THAT THREE PRECINCTS WERE GONNA KEEP WATCHGUARD FOR FINANCIAL REASONS.
UM, I ASKED HIM IF, IF WE COULD BUY IT TOGETHER, IF THERE WAS A BREAK.
AND HE, HIS BASICALLY SAID IF WE BOUGHT ONE OR 20, IT'S THE SAME PRICE.
IT'S A GOVERNMENT, UH, PRICE AND IT'S THROUGH TX D I R, WHICH IS TEXAS INFORMATION RESOURCES IS WHO THEY'RE GETTING THIS FROM.
SO, UH, WHETHER WE BUY ONE OR 20, IT'S THE SAME PRICE HERE.
SO, UM, I CONTACTED THE SHERIFF AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE CAMERA SYSTEM THEY HAVE AND UH, WE TALKED ABOUT HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST TO DO IT, TO GET A WHOLE NEW CAMERA SYSTEM, A DIFFERENT COMPANY GO AWAY FROM MOTOROLA.
AND UH, THE PRELIMINARY FIGURE WE HAD WAS ABOUT 63,000 FOR FIVE CARS VERSUS THIS SYSTEM.
SO, UH, I'M OPEN TO GOING TO THAT SYSTEM THAT THEY HAVE.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM, UM, BEING ON THE SAME CAMERA SYSTEM, THAT BIG GOOD COMPANY, IT'S JUST A CHOICE Y'ALL WOULD HAVE TO MAKE IF WE'RE GONNA SPEND 63,000 OR 29 BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW WE HAVE TO HAVE BODY CAMERAS IN INCAR.
THERE'S, THERE'S NO WAY AROUND IT.
HOW IN YOUR OTHER COUNTER MATE YESTERDAY ALREADY TOLD US THE SAME IDENTICAL THING? WELL, AND, AND WOULD THAT SHE'S SAME RIGHT WITH YOU AND I'M SURE YOU'VE TALKED I HAVE.
AND, AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, UH, JUST, JUST LIKE, UH, SERVER ISSUES, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A PRECINCT BUILDING GET SET ON FIRE AND UH, IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S ONLY ONE PLACE YOU HAVE VIDEO DOWNLOADED IN THERE AND IT'S GONE, IT'S GONE.
YOU KNOW, SO WHERE'S YOUR BACKUP UP FOR THOSE THINGS? MINE IS AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AT THE E O C UH, THREE.
I'VE MADE SURE YOU DON'T KNOW OR NO, COMFORTABLES, I DON'T KNOW.
I, I MADE SURE IT WASN'T WHEN I GOT THERE, BUT JUST LIKE AT THE BUILDING CATCHES ON FIRE, WE HAVE A TORNADO OR A FLOOD.
IF I ONLY HAVE ONE PLACE THAT OUR VIDEO FOOTAGE IS AT AND IT'S GONE, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT GOOD ON US COUNTY.
ALL, ALL OF Y'ALL NEED BACK UP.
SO, UM, Y'ALL DON'T BACK THIS STUFF UP TO TYLER.
EVERYBODY DOESN'T BACK IT UP TO, WE BACK IT UP TO UH, OR SOMETHING.
I MEAN, WE BACK IT UP TO THIS EVIDENCE LIBRARY.
WE BACK IT UP TO AN EXTERNAL DRIVE THAT'S BESIDE THE COMPUTER AND UH, WE'LL BACK IT UP TO A DRIVE
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AT THE E C.UM, THE PROBLEM WITH, WITH BACKING IT UP THERE PREMISES OTHER THAN WHERE YOU ARE YEAH.
UH, IT'S VERY SLOW WHEN WE BACK IT UP TO THAT SERVER OVER THERE.
UH, SO, UH, I MEAN THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION FOR YOU TO GET WITH NATHAN AND THE SHERIFF AND EVERYBODY GET ON THE SAME PAGE AND WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY, NATHAN AND I TALKED YESTERDAY YEAH.
I MEAN, BECAUSE IF, IF WE'RE NOT DOING IT PROPERLY, THEN THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT GOOD.
UH, NATHAN HAS WORKED ON OUR COMPUTERS THAT WE DOWNLOAD THIS AND HE SAYS IT'S TERRIBLE.
WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING BETTER, BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE.
WE, WE HAD, WE FRIED TWO COMPUTERS THIS YEAR BY TAKING BODY CAMS AND DOWNLOADING THEM TO, OUT OF THE USB PORTS, BURNT TWO USB PORTS UP IN THAT COMPUTER.
SO I TALKED TO NATHAN YESTERDAY AND EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OWN OPINION ABOUT, UH, ONSITE SERVERS AND CLOUD SERVERS.
AND THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER DISCUSSION.
YOU KNOW, THERE, UH, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT MY STUFF FLOATING AROUND MEAN, MEAN I JUST, I DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN THE DIFFERENCE IS IF YOU'RE USING THE OFFSITE SERVER, THEN YOU CAN EITHER BACK IT UP TWO WAYS.
YOU CAN BACK IT UP TO WHEREVER THEIR OFF PREMISES IS AND THEN THEY ALSO BACK IT UP IN A CLOUD PREMISES.
THE, THE THING ABOUT THE, I'M JUST SAYING IF YOU, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOTTA BE IN ANOTHER PLACE, IT CAN'T BE AT YOUR PLACE.
MY OPINION, IF I HAVE A CHOICE, I, IT HAS TO BE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY'S DOING THAT, BUT IT HAS TO BEAM.
UM, THE CLOUD HAS A REOCCURRING COST IS THE PROBLEM WITH THE CLOUD TOO.
SOMETHING ELSE TOO IS LIKE JOHNSON HAS XON, EXXON.
THE PROBLEM, THE REASON HE'S PROBABLY GOING WITH THAT ONE IS CAUSE LIKE DALLAS PD AND A LOT OF THE AGENCIES ARE GOING TO THAT CAUSE OF EVIDENCE.COM.
SO WHERE YOU CAN SH THE INVESTIGATORS CAN SHARE VIDEO.
SO LIKE SAY YOU HAVE A VIDEO OF AN INCIDENT THE SHERIFF NEEDS, INSTEAD OF TRYING TO DOWNLOAD IT, YOU CAN GO THROUGH EVIDENCE.COM.
WE USED IT WHERE YOU CAN UPLOAD THAT VIDEO, I CAN SEND IT STRAIGHT TO DALLAS PD THROUGH AND IT KEEPS IT STORED IN EVIDENCE.COM.
BUT EXXON OR EXXON, HOW ORON AND IT'S, IT'S CLOUD BASED.
AXON IS WHO PUSHES EVIDENCE.COM.
SO AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE SHERIFF AND YOU GUYS WOULD WANT, WHERE YOU CAN SHARE EVIDENCE WHICH IS SECURED AND ACCEPTED BY THE COURTS THROUGH THAT DATABASE INSTEAD OF MANUALLY HAVING TO STORE IT OR DOWNLOADED OR WHAT.
YOU'LL, YOU'LL TALK TO IT GUYS THAT THEY'RE ON SITE SERVERS.
YOU'LL TALK TO IT GUYS THAT THE CLOUD'S THE ONLY WAY TO GO, UH, WITH THE CLOUD.
YOU DON'T HAVE ANY ONSITE, THERE'S, EVERYTHING'S INTERNET BASED.
YOU DON'T HAVE A SERVER AND A CLOSET.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, BUT, BUT THERE'S REOCCURRING COST.
UH, WHAT KIND OF COST IS IT? WELL, OFFHAND, AS I WAS COMING HERE, THE REP FROM AXON CALLED ME CUZ I'VE BEEN TALKING TO HIM FOR A FEW MONTHS.
AND I WANT A DEMO, BUT THEY'RE OUTTA ARIZONA AND THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO GET 'EM TO COME DOWN TO DEMO IT.
UM, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF BELLS AND WHISTLES I DON'T THINK WE REALLY NEED, IT'S A NEAT SYSTEM.
KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I THINK YOU GUYS LIKE IT IF YOU LOOK INTO IT.
AND, AND SO HE CALLED ME AND, UH, YEAH, THE LAST TALK WE HAD WAS, I WANNA BID ON FIVE CARS, FIVE BODY CAMS, NICE CLOUD AND, UH, WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT.
BUT I, I WOULD, I'M GONNA GUESS IT'S GONNA BE THE SAME PRICE, PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT SYSTEM REALLY? WITH AXON.
WELL THAT'S MAYBE OUT OF OUR REACH.
IT COULD BE FROM 29 TO 63 AND IT'S ABOVE THE 63 THEN.
IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO LOOK AT.
CAUSE EVIDENCE.COM IS A VERY NEAT SYSTEM, ESPECIALLY FOR EVIDENCE CONTROL.
IF YOU, IF YOU WATCH ANY POLICE VIDEO ON ANY KIND OF INTERNET, IF YOU'LL LOOK UP IN THE TOP, MOST OF 'EM, 90% OF 'EM SAY, GONNA SAY AXON.
AND THAT'S THE CAMERA SYSTEM THAT EVERYBODY USES.
THAT'S LIKE THE DALLAS COUNTY DA'S OFFICE.
THERE'S NO DOWNLOADING VIDEO TAKING IT TO THE COURT.
THEY CAN LINK IT DIRECTLY TO DALLAS COUNTY AND SUBMIT IT TO THE COURT.
IT'D BE SOMETHING TO LOOK INTO IF EVERYBODY'S GONNA TRY TO CONSOLIDATE.
I THINK IT'D BE SOMETHING I, I'M INTERESTED IN GETTING THE FIGURE AND SEEING WHAT IT'S ABOUT.
AND UH, IF IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE AND THEY DEMO IT AND YOU'RE LIKE, THIS IS THE GREATEST SYSTEM EVER.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK IN YOUR OFFICE AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO BURN CDS AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS OTHER STUFF AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO DOWNLOAD ALL THIS, IT BECOMES REALLY SIMPLE.
YOU KNOW WHAT I HAVE NOW? IT IS NICE.
I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT DO WE HAVE NOW? EVERYTHING WORKS WHETHER YOU MATTER THIS EVEN NEW MOTOROLA SYSTEM TO CHANGE THAT.
EVERYBODY'S, BUT WE HAVE TO PHYSICALLY TAKE A BODY CAM IN AND GET ON ONE COMPUTER AND PLUG IT IN.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, WHAT YOU'RE USING IS, OH, IT'S OUT THERE.
THERE'S NEWER BETTER STUFF OUT.
UM, WE HAVE TO UH, EJECT THE THUMB DRIVE, TAKE THE THUMB DRIVE IN, STICK IT IN THE COMPUTER AND THAT'S WHEN IT'S BURNING THOSE THUMB DRIVES CUZ IT'S JUST A LOT OF STUFF.
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IT'S RUNNING, RUNNING, RUN, RUN.IT GETS HOT AND THEY HAVE TO COME AND REPLACE IT
UM, SO THAT'S THE, UH, UH, THAT'S THE RADIO PART OF IT.
UM, I THINK THE OTHER THING, UH, KAREN, I DID PUT, UH, ADMIN ASSISTANT ON THERE WAS THAT I SENT Y'ALL TOO.
I JUST PUT IT ON LETTERHEAD AND PUT ONE SENTENCE.
I DON'T EVEN GET THAT ONE NOW OLD.
IT LOOKED LIKE CLARK THE ADMIN AND I DUNNO IF WE, WE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
I'M REQUESTING ADMIN ASSISTANT.
IT'S NOT CALLED ADMIN ASSISTANT.
I FOUND OUT IT'S CALLED A PROJECT MANAGER.
UM, THAT'S WHAT THE OTHER THREE CONSTABLES HAVE.
THEY CALL 'EM PROJECT MANAGERS.
UM, I HADN'T ASKED FOR THAT BEFORE, SINCE I TOOK OFFICE JUST BECAUSE I NEED TO SEE IF I NEEDED IT AND I NEEDED TO FIGURE OUT THAT OFFICE MYSELF BEFORE I HAD SOMEBODY ELSE, UH, DOING ALL THE PAPERWORK.
I TALKED TO, UH, JIM AND THE ONLY PROJECT MANAGER I KNOW WE GOT IS PAM CARTER.
I I'VE NEVER HEARD THAT TITLE EITHER.
IT WAS, IT WAS SOMETHING WHEN HE, WHEN HE TOLD ME I, I CAN'T, I DIDN'T WRITE THAT DOWN.
IS WHAT, THAT'S WHAT YOU THINK TWO CAME UP WITH? YEP.
THAT'S WHAT ALL THE, THE ONES HAVE.
AND, AND I, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE GETTING WAY OFF BASE WITH ALL THE, THE TITLES AND NAMES AND
SO DO THE OTHER THREE, UH, CONSTABLES HAVE LIKE AN OFFICE PERSON? YES.
THEY HAVE THIS PROGRAM SPECIALIST.
ONE HAS CLERK, CLERK, CLERK, DEPUTY, CHIEF, DEPUTY, UH, TWO HAS CLERK, CHIEF, DEPUTY CLERK, CLERK.
I DON'T, WE NEVER CHANGED THE NAME.
THAT'S NOT THE CONSTABLE SIDE, RIGHT? THAT IS JP.
WELL, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE CLOSE THOUGH, YOU'RE, WE'RE CLOSE.
IF YOU'RE IN THE SAME BUILDING.
MATT, TELL THEM WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT YESTERDAY.
WHAT? OKAY, SO I HAVEN'T, I'VE BEEN ASKED ABOUT THIS FOR YEARS IF I DIDN'T HAVE ONE OR I DIDN'T HAVE ONE, BUT I, I FELT I NEEDED TO LEARN THE OFFICE AND LEARN THE PAPERWORK MYSELF BEFORE ANYTHING.
BUT WITH GETTING WINDMILL FARMS, IT'S CHANGED A LOT.
UM, AND, AND THERE'S SO MUCH PAPER TO DO.
SO I WATCHED AND FIGURED THIS AND EVERY DEPUTY IS SPENDING ABOUT TWO HOURS IN THE OFFICE A DAY JUST DOING PAPERWORK, JUST DOING RETURNS, ENTERING PAPERS, DOING ALTERNATE SERVICE.
UH, SO I, I FEEL GETTING A $40,000 BASE PAY CLERK VERSUS A DEPUTY WOULD PUT ANOTHER DEPUTY ON THE STREET BASICALLY BECAUSE I'M, I'M SPENDING TWO HOURS A DAY.
WELL, LAST YEAR I WAS, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.
WELL, I, I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK.
WHEN I, WHEN I CAME IN THE OFFICE, I'M NOT TRYING TO BE RUDE OR, OR SAID ANY FIRE, ANYBODY ON FIRE.
I'M JUST, I'M JUST SAYING WHERE ARE WE GOING WITH DEPUTIES? I MEAN, BECAUSE YOU'RE SERVING THE COURT AND YOU'RE SERVING THEIR PAPERS.
DO YOU NEED MORE DEPUTIES JUST TO SERVE THE PAPERS OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT YOU NEED I'M NOT ASKING FOR A DEPUTY PATROL.
I'M NOT ASKING FOR ANOTHER DEPUTY.
NO, I'M JUST ASKING WHAT I WANT A CLERK SO THE DEPUTIES CAN BE ON THE STREET MORE.
I, I, YEAH, THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING.
WHAT'S YOUR DEPUTIES ON THE STREET FOR? IS IT FOR SERVING PAPERS OR IS IT FOR WELL, IF YOU, YOU WANNA KNOW WHAT THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL DUTY IS OR NO, NO, IT IS HELD.
LIKE JOHNSON FOR INSTANCE, HAS PEOPLE PATROLLING SUBDIVISIONS.
SO HE, I GUESS HE'S ASKING CAPACITY OF, ARE Y'ALL MAINLY CIVIL PROCESS OR ARE Y'ALL DOING PATROL AS WELL AND STUFF? OUR PAPERS ARE FIRST IN OUR COURTS FIRST.
BECAUSE, BUT I MEAN, THEORETICALLY, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW THAT WHEN I CAME IN THE OFFICE NO CONSTABLE WAS REALLY PATROLLING ANYTHING.
DOES, HANG ON, LET ME FINISH ANSWERING.
YOU KNOW, I CAN SHOW YOU STATS ON EVERY TIME ONE OF MY DEPUTIES CHECKS OUT ON A COUNTY ROAD, EVERY TIME THEY DO AN AGENCY ASSIST, EVERY SINGLE PAPER THAT'S ENTERED IN MY OFFICE, AND I COULD BRING YOU NUMBERS WHERE YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE HOW MANY EXIT PATROLS THEY DO, HOW MANY TRAFFIC STOPS THEY MAKE ON TOP OF SERVING MORE PAPERS IN ANY PRECINCT.
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JUST TELLING YOU, YOU ASKED ME WHAT THEY DO.I'M JUST, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
YOU'RE TRYING TO DO MORE PATROL AND THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.
WHAT YOU'RE AFTER IS THE GET THEM OFF THE PAPERWORK WHERE THEY CAN PATROL.
I WANT A CLERK SO I CAN PUT MORE HOURS ON THE STREET.
ONE HAS A CLERK, TWO DOES NOT HAVE A CLERK.
DO THEY HAVE WELL THEY HAVE ONE AT FOUR CLERK.
AND, AND BE FAIR, LIKE LAST YEAR I WASN'T HERE, BUT I WAS WATCHING AND LAST YEAR, I REMEMBER DURING THE THING THAT FOR BUDGET CUTS THAT YOU SAID WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT, BUT I DON'T NEED THIS JUST TO HELP CANDY.
BUT IN MY OPINION, YOU NEED A CLERK.
I MEAN, THAT NEEDS TO COME BACK.
I CUT MY BUDGET SEVEN POINT HALF PERCENT LAST YEAR.
AND I'M NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING THIS YEAR.
YEAH, NO, I'M, I'M WITH YOU ON THAT.
AND YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY HERE KNOWS THE EMPLOYEES ARE WITH THE ISSUES THAT YOU HAVE.
AND I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD ASK FOR ANOTHER EMPLOYEE WHEN YOU DESPERATELY NEED ONE.
HE, HE WANTS HAS A PROGRAM SPECIALIST AND A CLERK.
AS A PROGRAM, THE SPECIALIST IS PAID.
ONE OF 'EM IS PAID THROUGH THE CONTRACT, I THINK.
THE CLERK, HE ONLY HAS ONE PAID THROUGH THE WHAT DOES THE PROGRAM SPECIALIST DO RIGHT HERE? WELL, CLERK, ANYTHING YOU WANT.
I MEAN THE, THE MAIN THING THEY'LL DO IN OUR OFFICE IS YEAH.
MONEY ALSO FROM ENTER IN THE COMPUTER CONTRACTS AND YES.
DISSEMINATE 'EM TO THE DEPUTY THAT HAS THAT PLUS CONTRACT MONEY AND SALARY, YOU KNOW.
AND, AND YOU ALSO NEED SOMEONE, IT'S THE 40 PLUS THE EIGHT EIGHT PAIR A PAIR OF PANTS.
YOU KNOW THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE KEY ORDERS, PANTS, JUST THINGS LIKE THAT.
I DO ALL THAT NOW, BUT THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE DOING THE SAME.
CAN'T, I CAN'T ENTER THEIR PAPERS, CONTRACTS, YOU KNOW, UH, I CAN'T DO THEIR RETURNS.
I CAN'T DO THE ALTERNATE SERVICE FOR 'EM.
THERE'S KITCHENS THAT GETS PAID EXTRA AND SOMEONE ELSE I KNOW.
I'LL TELL YOU WHERE WE REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM IS IN NOVATON BECAUSE IT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO USE THE PHONE TO CLOCK IN AND THEY'RE NOT REALLY AT WORK.
WE NEED TO CHANGE THAT POLICY WHEN THEY HAVE TO BE HERE.
NEED TO HAVE NO TIME CUT IT OFF CELL PHONE.
IS THAT GONNA BE AN HR MANUAL? IS THAT WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE? THAT SHOULD BE AN HR FUNCTION.
THERE'D HAVE TO BE SOME EXCEPTIONS TO THAT.
CAN TELL YOU TO BE BECAUSE, UH, WELL YOU HAVE TAKE HOME SQUAD CARDS AND ALL THAT STUFF.
IF YOU, IF YOU'VE GOT C I D COMING OUT AT TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, THEY HAVE TO, WELL OUR ADMIN'S ABOUT TO DO IT.
MOSTLY THIS, THAT'S DIFFERENT.
THEY HAVE SUPERVISORS THAT CAN FIX THEIR TIME.
THE SUPERVISOR CAN FIX THEIR TIME.
I THINK EVERYBODY HAS A SUPERVISOR THAT CAN FIX THEIR TIME.
THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE AT WORK AT EIGHT O'CLOCK AND THEN FROM THEIR PHONE THEY PUNCH IN BUT THEY DON'T SHOW UP FOR WORK TILL ALMOST 10.
THERE PROBABLY SOME SUPERVISOR PROBABLY NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THAT.
IT'S EASY TO TRACK IF YOU, IF YOU JUST CHECKED THE IP ADDRESS.
WE HAD THE SECTION WITH THE CELL PHONE.
BUT THE THING ABOUT IT, YOU HAVE LOCATIONS, BUT YOU CAN GO LOOK THERE AND SEE THEIR MM-HMM.
NO, WE HAVE SOME, SOME ON PAYROLL IS GETTING MONEY, WHATEVER THAT POSITION IS AND THEY'RE GETTING OTHER MONEY ON TOP OF THAT IF THEY'RE IN ONE OF THESE MUD DISTRICTS.
SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY GETTING A LOT OF EXTRA MONEY THAT OTHER PEOPLE IN THE SAME POSITION ARE NOT GETTING.
I'M NOT SURE THEY'RE DOING THAT MUCH EXTRA WORK OR, CAUSE THEY CAN CHARGE US THAT ACCOUNT IF THEY, WHAT I CALL DOUBLE DIPPING.
I DON'T CALL IT WHATEVER YOU WANT TO.
UH, SO WHAT'S THE, IF YOU'RE THERE EIGHT HOURS A DAY.
YOU KNOW, SO WHAT'S THAT? SALARY? ALRIGHT.
AND THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE ASKING FOR, RIGHT? YES.
THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD.
I I THINK THEY STILL OUGHT BE CALLED CLERK.
I MEAN, SORRY, I MEAN WHATEVER THEY'RE CALLED.
PICK ONE UP, PICK ONE UP OUT RACK ON THE WAY OUT.
I'M THINK SOME OF 'EM CALL HER MADAME CLERK, MADAM, WHATEVER.
I'M NOT GOING THERE MR. I DON'T CARE.
BUT BASICALLY I'M ASKING FOR THAT TO PUT MORE PEOPLE ON THE STREET.
THERE'S ALL OTHER FUNCTIONS THAT THEY CAN DO, BUT I THINK THAT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN LAW ENFORCEMENT.
WELL, I'LL TELL YOU, I KNOW HOW BUSY THEY ARE.
I MEAN, I'VE SEEN, SEEN IT MYSELF.
I MEAN, I TALKED TO HIM OUT ON A REGULAR BASIS.
HE HAD THE CLERK LAST YEAR, THE GAMBLING TURNED IT DOWN AND THEN SO, SO HE'S HAD A CLERK THAT'S, HE
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NEEDS A CLERK.I THINK WE NEED TO LEAVE THAT.
WELL AND THE WHOLE JUST LEAVE THAT IN THERE THEN.
HE'S GOT MORE TERRITORY THAN BEFORE.
WE'RE TRYING TO HELP YOU HERE.
WELL, NOT A, NOT A LOT THAN MILEAGE, BUT A LOT THAN PEOPLE.
NICK, YOU GET A LOT OF PEOPLE REALLY QUICK.
WHAT ELSE? MR. MAN, I THINK THAT'S ALL I GOT.
ALL I HAVE Y'ALL, ANY QUESTIONS ON THE RADIO SYSTEM? NO.
I I JUST THINK YOU'RE RESEARCHING THAT STILL.
SO I I AM, I'M GOING TO AXON AND I JUST THINK I, I KNOW IN THE PAST THAT WE'VE TALKED THAT THE COURT WOULD LIKE EVERYBODY TO BE ON THE SAME SYSTEM.
IT'S JUST GONNA COST TWICE THE MONEY.
IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT WE CAN AFFORD.
SO I'M, I'M FOR WHATEVER Y'ALL DECIDE THERE.
I'M NOT SURE WE CAN GO WITH THAT ONE SYSTEM.
HE UP FIVE MINUTES OF YOUR TIME.
HE USED UP FIVE MINUTES OF MY TIME.
ROBERT USED UP FIVE MINUTES OF IT YESTERDAY TOO.
SO YOU'RE REALLY GETTING ON SHORT.
I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT ROBERT, IT WAS SHORT YESTERDAY.
NEXT YEAR LET'S DO IT IN PAGE ORDER ON THE CALENDAR.
WHY THEY HAVE TO SHOW UP THAT WAY IN THE ORDER IN WHICH YOU ARE IN THE BOOK.
THAT'S MISS MONIQUE ON THE FINAL.
SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GOT THE, UH, BULLET SHEET WITH MY, I HAD LAID OUT ALL THE, UH, DIFFERENCES FROM THE ORIGINAL BUDGET TO WHAT I WAS ASKING FOR AN INCREASE.
IF YOU DID NOT, UM, I'LL QUICKLY GO THROUGH THOSE.
I HAVE JUST WHAT'S ON THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE? YEAH, I THINK THAT MAY BE IT.
SO, UM, THE OFFICE SUPPLIES I INCREASED, UH, 1500.
UM, I'M DOING, IF YOU GUYS KNOW I'M DOING THE FIRE SCAN PROJECT, I HAVE TO PAY A METER READING FOR THOSE SCANS AS WELL AS I NEED TO GET RID OF THEM.
SO, YOU KNOW, I TOOK THE PROJECT ON AND SO, BUT IT'S $149 A MONTH AND IT KIND OF ADDS UP AND DIPS INTO MY, SO I CALCULATED THAT AND JUST ADDED THAT TO MY OFFICE SUPPLIES.
THAT WOULD BE THE DIFFERENCE FOR THAT ONE.
UM, I WENT OUT AND BOUGHT, UH, GLOVES AND TRASH BAGS AND REFLECTIVE VESTS CUZ THEY'RE ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.
ALL THAT FUN STUFF THAT I DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE GONNA NEED.
UH, SO, UM, GET THAT STUFF FOR FREE.
SOMETHING YOU BROUGHT THAT SHREDDING UP AND THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY INTERESTING TO ME CUZ WE PAY FOR IT IN PRECINCT TOO.
WE PRAY FOR IT IN A LOT OF PLACES WHERE THIS COMPANY ONE TIME IN ONE LOCATION.
WHAT I'M WONDERING IS WE CAN'T BUY SHREDDERS OR, OR EITHER IN MAINTENANCE OR SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE A BIG SHREDDER THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY SEND, YOU KNOW? WELL THE DA'S OFFICE DOES A LOT OF SHREDDING.
GONNA SAY YOU'LL KILL A LOT OF NON-COMMERCIAL LEVEL SHREDDERS IN A HURRY.
WANNA LAST A MONTH? THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING IF WE HAD A COMMERCIAL SPREADER, WE HAVE TWO OR THREE OF THOSE ROLLING BINS AND I THINK THEY'RE FULL EVERY TIME THE SHRED TRUCK COMES AND THE FIRE MARSHALS CASE, UH, HIS, HE HAS A SHRED BIN AS WELL.
THERE'S INVESTIGATION STUFF IN THAT.
ME, I'VE JUST GOT ALL THE BIG GIGANTIC GLANDS.
SO, WELL LET'S GET WITH BOBBY ON AND AND SEE IF WE CAN COORDINATE GETTING A SHRED TRUCK TO COME TO EACH PRECINCT ONCE A MONTH.
SHERIFF'S LEAN IN A LITTLE BIT.
I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT, BUT I MEAN, I'M GONNA SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT I'VE GOT.
I'VE GOT EIGHT VENTS THAT WE'RE FULL OF EVERY TIME.
HOW OFTEN DO THEY COME? I WANNA SAY EVERY TWO WEEKS.
ONE OF THE SECURITY FEATURES OF IT IS THEY SHRED ON SITE.
YOUR STUFF, YOUR STUFF DOESN'T GO DOWN THE ROAD, YOU KNOW.
THEY COME OUT AND TAKE IT OUT THERE AND THEY SHRED IT ON ONE.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE A SHREDDER AND THEY COME IN AND JUST EMPTY THE BOX AND LEAVE.
I WANNA SAY WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE, I MEAN, IT MIGHT NOT BE A GOOD THING.
I JUST PAYING FIVE, $6,000 FOR A SHRED.
LET'S COORDINATE THAT WITH BOBBY.
YOU SEE WHEN THEY COME, SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING BETTER AT LEAST TO YOUR OFFICE ONCE A MONTH.
TO THE, FOR THE SHRED IT'S THE $55 FOR THE SCAN METER READING IS 1 49.
SO JUST SO YOU KNOW, WELL WE'RE WE'RE NOT GOING WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT OUTTA HERE AT THE MOMENT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
WELL THE OTHER THING I'M JUST, I'M JUST FIND IT OUT THERE.
CAUSE YOU KNOW, IF YOU START GETTING A LOT AND IF, IF WE'RE USING TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT COMPANIES, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF WE'RE USING TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT COMPANIES.
THAT'S, THAT'S ANOTHER THING WE NEED TO FIND OUT.
I NEED, WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE USING THE SAME THING AND EVERYTHING'S WORKING AND GETTING IT THE BEST PRICE WE CAN GET IT FIT.
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MM-HMM.ALSO, THE ENVIRONMENTAL STUFF, UH, THE, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT THINGS.
I MEAN WE GET THAT DEAL EVERY YEAR.
WE GET A LOT OF THAT STUFF FOR FREE OR AT LEAST AT A REDUCED, VERY REDUCED PRICE.
REMEMBER THAT? I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE OUTFIT THAT CONTACTS US, BUT WE ORDER THE, THEY SEND US A DEAL AND SAY, HEY, WE GOT, YOU KNOW, SAFETY GLASSES, GLOVES.
WELL THEY DIDN'T SEND THAT TO ME.
WE NEED TO GET YOU HOOKED UP WITH THEM.
SO
IS THAT, I MEAN I THINK, I THINK AND THAT'S GLOVES AND ALL THOSE THINGS.
GLOVES, VESTS, SAFETY GLASSES.
YEAH, IT'S PERSONAL PROTECTION.
GIVE WITH AARON, HE DEALS, HE DEALS WITH THOSE PEOPLE.
SO, UH, GAS AND OIL JUST GOT TWO NEW VEHICLES OR VEHICLES FROM THE SHERIFF.
SO I JUST INCR, I JUST SAW WHAT MY OTHER TRUCKS RAN AND INCREASED THAT.
WE DO, WE TRY TO DO REALLY GOOD ON OUR FUEL.
WE TRY TO COORDINATE WHERE WE'RE GOING IN THE COUNTY AND I DON'T WANT TWO VEHICLES IN THE SAME AREA OF THE COUNTY AND WE KIND OF TRY TO PLAN OUR DAY, SO.
UM, CONTINUING EDUCATION, MEALS, LODGING, ALL THAT.
I'VE GOT UH, SEVERAL OTHER DRS SO THEY'RE GONNA NEED TO CONTINUE EDUCATION.
THEY HAVE SOIL, UH, EVALUATOR LICENSES.
THEY HAVE, UM, THEIR DR LICENSES AND THEN THEY'RE DOING SOME ENVIRONMENTAL, UH, UH, CLASSES AS WELL.
WE JUST DID ONE YESTERDAY, BUT THAT ONE WAS FREE, SO GOT SIX CREDIT HOURS FOR THAT.
UM, SO WITH THE MORE STAFF I HAVE TO KEEP UP THEIR CREDENTIALS AND THAT'S WHAT THAT INCREASES.
AND SO THAT'S ON MEALS, LODGING AND EDUCATION.
BOTH THOSE LINE ITEMS. SOFTWARE.
SO, UM, THAT 3000 THAT I ASKED FOR, I'M NOT GONNA NEED IT.
UM, OUR SOFTWARE WORKS REALLY WELL AND UNTIL WE, IN MY OPINION FIND THE RIGHT ONE, NOT EVEN GONNA MESS WITH IT.
WE USE, IT DOES WHAT WE NEED IT TO DO.
AND SO I'M GONNA TAKE THAT OFF OF MY BUDGET.
OH, YOU READ IT? I DIDN'T READ IT.
THAT'S, I CAN'T, I THOUGHT THAT I DIDN'T WANNA GET IN TROUBLE.
I'M LIKE, ARE Y'ALL WATCHING A SPORTS GAME BACK THERE? I MEAN, YES.
IS THE SCORE GOOD THOUGH? IT'S COWBOY SCORE.
I MEAN, THAT WOULDN'T BE GOOD.
SO WHAT ELSE MISS MONIQUE? UH, THE CELL PHONE ALLOWANCES.
UH, DEB MILLER, MY OFFICE MANAGER, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD HER.
CAITLYN IS MY ENVIRONMENTAL ONE.
I DON'T EVEN CONSIDER THEM FOR CELL PHONE ALLOWANCES UNTIL THEY GET THEIR LICENSE.
AND SO BY THE TIME THAT WE GET TO THE NEW BUDGET, SHE WILL HAVE BEEN ONE YEAR EARNED HER LICENSE AND OUT IN THE FIELD.
DO THEY CARRY, UH, TWO SEPARATE PHONES? NO, THEY, SHE CARRIES HER CELL PHONE AND UM, I'M ORDERING HER RADIO, WHICH IS LIKE $1,600.
SO RIGHT NOW HER CELL PHONE IS HER ONLY.
BUT YOU'RE ORDERING HER PHONE? NO, NO, NO, NO.
WHAT'S 1600 DID YOU? JUST A HARRIS RADIO.
I SAID YOUR ORDER A 1600 PHONE CARD.
I AM DROPPING THE, I GOT, I AM DROPPING THE DR THE, UH, OSS F INSPECTOR CELL PHONE ALLOWANCE.
I'VE NOT FILLED THAT POSITION.
AND THAT'S A CONVERSATION WE'RE GONNA HAVE SO THAT ONE CAN COME OFF.
SO IT BALANCES OUT ONE OF THOSE MM-HMM.
I KNOW THIS, THE NINE HUNDRED'S BEEN HERE I GUESS FOR A LONG TIME.
THERE ARE VERY FEW LANDLINES LEFT EXCEPT AT MY HOUSE WE HAVE A LANDLINE.
ARE WE OVERPAYING THEM FOR A CELL PHONE? YES.
ARE WE PAYING MORE? 70, $75 A MONTH? WHAT WE'RE PAYING? RIGHT.
I MEAN, PHONES NOWADAYS ARE MORE THAN EXPENSIVE THAN A COMPUTER.
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT I'M, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I, I HAD, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE PHONE.
OH, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE SERVICE.
WE'RE PAYING FOR THEIR MONTHLY BILL.
OH, THEY'VE ALREADY BOUGHT THAT? NO.
THAT THEIR BILL IS MORE THAN $75 A MONTH.
I DON'T HAVE ONE THAT I DON'T EITHER.
IF THEY HAVE A SMARTPHONE AND THEY'RE USING IT FOR GIS AND THEY'RE, OR THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, THEIR SMARTPHONE IS RUNNING THEM MORE THAN $75 A MONTH.
MINE DOES BECAUSE UNLIMIT DID.
AGAIN, UNLESS YOU'VE GOT SOME KIND OF FAMILY PLAN SPECIAL MINE, MINE DOES EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID.
SO, I MEAN, IF YOU WANT TO, $45 A MONTH.
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I.SO JUST SAYING
OH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE PAYING FOR A PHONE.
YOU'RE PAYING FOR THE PHONE, CORRECT? YES.
NOW, I MEAN I'LL DO WHATEVER THE COURT, IF YOU GUYS, I WILL TELL YOU THIS.
AND THIS WILL BE MY HERE HONEST ANSWER TO YOU.
YOU CAN GIVE THEM CELL PHONES THAT THE COUNTY PROVIDES.
YOU MIGHT END UP, IT'LL BE MORE THAN THAN IT WILL.
WELL, NO, NO, WE CUT THAT OUT.
LET ME, LET ME TELL YOU, I'M GONNA EXPLAIN THIS.
I'VE BEEN EXPLAINING THIS TWO OR THREE TIMES AND I KNOW SHE HEARD THIS SPEECH AND HE HAS TO, BUT I STARTED EIGHT YEARS AGO I DID THAT, CUT OUT THE COUNTY TELEPHONES CAUSE WE HAD A PERSON UPSTAIRS.
SHE USED TO WORK FOR A AND T AND T WORKED FOR JACK.
AND THAT'S ALL SHE DID WAS MANAGE THE PHONE.
AND WE HAD, AND I, WHEN I FOUND MY ROAD AND BRIDGE, NOT ONE OF 'EM WAS USING ONE OF THOSE CELL PHONES THEY HAD, THEY JUST FORWARDED THE PHONE NUMBER TO THEIR NUMBER.
I SAID, WHY DO WE HAVE THEM? SO IN ORDER FOR EVERYBODY TO ACCEPT IT, WE STARTED THIS CELL PHONE POLICY TO PAY A SIPHON FOR THEM TO HAVE.
AND I TOLD JUDGE WOOD BACK THEN, AND JACKIE KNOWS THIS, I SAID, NEXT YEAR WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS JUST ROLL IT ALL IN EVERYBODY'S SALARY THAT HAS THIS, WE'LL JUST MOVE THAT OVER TO THEIR SALARY.
AND THEN WHEN SOMEBODY COMES TO WORK FOR IT, THEY HAVE A PHONE.
WHATEVER SERVICE THEY HAVE CUZ EVERYBODY HAS IT AT A GOOD RATE AND EVERYBODY HAS A SUPER.
SO ANYBODY HERE THAT'S RECEIVING IT, THEY JUST BLOW THAT INTO THEIR PAY AND WE MOVE ON AND THEN WE CAN JUST CUT OUT A LINE, ONE WHOLE LINE ITEM AND TRY AND KEEP TRACK OF SOMETHING.
I WILL, IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT OR SOMEPLACE THEY GOT DETECTIVES, THEY USE UNDERCOVER PHONE.
THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT STORY.
NO, BUT JUST FOR THE REGULAR CIVILIAN WORKERS THAT WORK EVERY DAY AND JUST IF THEY WANT TO USE THEIR PHONE IN BUSINESS, THEN HEY, YOU KNOW, CAUSE THEY DON'T WANT ANOTHER PHONE.
VERY FEW PEOPLE REALLY WANT TO CARRY TWO PHONES.
AND, AND YOU KNOW, THE ODDS OF YOU LEAVING THE WRONG ONE AT HOME IS VERY LIKELY.
WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE POINT OF THIS? WE'RE PICKING SOMEBODY OUT, ESPECIALLY TO GIVE 'EM A PHONE LOUNGE OR MM-HMM.
IF YOU DON'T WANT TO USE IT, COME BACK TO THE OFFICE AND USE THE PHONE.
I DON'T, NOT, NOT EVERYBODY IN MY OFFICE WILL HAVE ONE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A NEED FOR IT BASED OFF OF THEIR JOB DESCRIPTION.
BUT BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
IF WE GET TO THE JOB DESCRIPTION, THEN THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE BEING PAID ENOUGH TO BRING A PHONE WITH THEM.
WELL THEY ALREADY HAVE A PHONE.
THAT WAS THE, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? THAT WAS THE BAD PART OF IT THOUGH.
THEN Y'ALL DECIDED TO TURN 'EM IN AND EVERYBODY WAS GOING TO USE THEIR PERSONAL, THEY SET IN A BOX FOR PROBABLY SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS MM-HMM.
SO WE KEPT PAYING FOR EIGHT MONTHS WORTH OF USE.
SO WE'RE SO, I MEAN EVERYBODY, Y'ALL TO THINK ABOUT THIS THE OTHER DAY ON PHONE.
I'M GONNA DO WHATEVER Y'ALL WANT ME TO DO.
WE COULD DO IT IN THIS BUDGET AND THIS, EVERYBODY THAT HAS THIS LOUNGE, IT JUST CHANGED THEIR YEAH.
IF YOU WANNA ROLL IT INTO THEIR SALARY, I'M SURE THEY DON'T CARE.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
THE ONLY, ONLY, THE ONLY PART THAT MAKES IT INDIVIDUALIZED IS WHENEVER IT GETS LOST IN THE COUPLE OF YEARS THAT IT WAS PUT INTO THEIR SALARY AND THEN THEY'RE SAYING, YOU DON'T PAY ME FOR MY CELL PHONE.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY WELL THE PROBLEM IS YOU CAN'T JUST ADD IT TO $900 THEN WE'VE GOTTA MATCH MORE WITHHOLDING, FICA AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
CAUSE WE JUST INCREASED THAT SALARY.
IT COULD THROW 'EM INTO A DIFFERENT CATEGORY.
I DON'T CARE HOW Y'ALL WANNA DO IT.
I DON'T GET A STACK IN FRONT OF MY PHONE.
THEY STILL, THEY STILL GOES INTO THEIR PAY.
REALLY? YEAH, BUT WE DON'T LONG TIME LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, YOU CAN TELL ME TO BRING THIS BACK TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT, BUT I NEED YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHAT I WANT TO DO FOR BUDGET PURPOSES.
SO, UM, WE HAD MOVED CHRISTIE OVER TO FIRE MARSHAL LATERAL TRANSFER.
THE WHOLE LINE ITEM WENT WITH HER.
I DID NOT AND UM, HIRE ANOTHER CLERK CAUSE I DON'T HAVE THAT POSITION ANYMORE.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT POSITION BACK.
I HAVE NOT HIRED AN ENVIRONMENTAL OR DR.
CUZ I DON'T HAVE ANY GOOD APPLICANTS.
UM, AND I'M NOT GONNA JUST TAKE ANYBODY.
I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT CLERK BACK IN OCTOBER.
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WITHOUT LOSING THE DR.BUT I HAVE MONEY TO HOPEFULLY POST IT SOON AND NOT WAIT FOR BUDGET.
WE HAVE 24 ACTIVE WORKING SUBDIVISION PLAS GOING RIGHT NOW.
UM, AS OF JUNE 1ST WE'VE HAD 85 PRE-DEVELOPMENT QUESTIONNAIRES WITH ONE CLERK.
WHAT'S THAT PAY RATE FOR THAT PERSON? IT'S 40.
THE PAY RATE WILL BE UH, 43 33.
UM, UH, THE DR SALARY THAT I HAVE NOT FILLED THAT'S BEEN SITTING THERE EMPTY WAS 43 9 7 7 0.96.
THIS IS JUST BASIS NOT ALL THE 33.
IT WOULD COST $10,857 FOR THAT POSITION IF I GOT TO POST IT TOMORROW AND HIRED THAN WHICH ONE TOMORROW.
WHICH ONE AWAY MONIQUE? WHICH ONE IS VACANT? IT WASN'T VACANT.
IT WAS REMOVED TO GO TO THE FIRE MARSHAL.
SO WHAT DO YOU WANT HIM BACK? WOULD YOU I WANNA PUT BACK THE CLERK DEVELOPMENT CLERK POSITION OR SERVICES CLERK POSITION THAT I LOST.
I WOULD LIKE TO PUT THAT BACK IN OCTOBER.
BUT FOR NOW I WOULD LIKE PERMISSION TO POST FOR THAT CLERK AND USE THE DR SALARY THAT DOES NOT HAVE AN EMPLOYEE RIGHT NOW.
SO THAT I CAN GET THAT PERSON IN THE DOOR DURING OUR BUSY SEASON.
WELL WILL YOU NEED THAT PERSON SOMEWHERE WITHIN THE NEXT FISCAL BUDGET YEAR? YES.
THAT WAS ANOTHER CONVERSATION
THAT'S WHY SHE SAID SHE'D LIKE TO KEEP NEXT YEAR.
I WAS TRYING TO BE ALL TRANSPARENT.
BUT YOU CAN'T HIRE HIM THIS HERE.
SO IF A GOOD ONE COMES ALONG, I'M NOT YOU WANT, YOU WANT BE TO WELL I STILL, NO, I STILL HAVE AN ENVIRONMENTAL ONE I HAVEN'T FILLED BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE GOOD APPLICANTS.
SO TECHNICALLY IF A GOOD ONE COMES ALONG, I'M READY.
SO THE, I HAVE ENVIRONMENTALS AND I HAVE ONE DR IN MY OFFICE, THE DR.
LITTLE ANIMOSITY AS TO WHY HE'S NOT ENVIRONMENTAL.
HE DIDN'T APPLY FOR ENVIRONMENTAL, BLAH BLAH BLAH.
I WOULD LIKE ALL OF THEM TO BE CLASSIFIED AS ENVIRONMENTAL BECAUSE I DON'T WANNA SEPARATE THE DUTIES ANYMORE.
ALL OF YOU ARE GOING OUT AND DOING SEPTIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL.
I HAVE THREE, I'LL HAVE THREE ENVIRONMENTAL ONES AND TWO SPECIALISTS.
IT'S A $2,000 CLASSIFIED AS WHAT YOU HAVE.
YOU HAVE ONE THAT'S AN OSS F INSPECTOR.
THAT'S ALL HE DOES IS IS SEPTIC.
HE'S NOT, HE DOESN'T DO ENVIRONMENTAL.
I HAVE TWO ENVIRONMENTAL ONE POSITIONS.
YOU GOT AN ENVIRONMENTAL SPECIALIST ONE? YES.
A SPECIALIST IS DIFFERENT THAN AN ENVIRONMENTAL ONE.
JERRY HAS DONALD, SEVEN YEARS OF DONALD'S NOT HERE.
SO HE'S CLASSIFIED DIFFERENTLY.
SO THE ENVIRONMENTAL ONE WOULD BE $2,000 INCREASE FROM THE DR.
IT CAUSES A LITTLE BLURRINESS AND THEY ALL NEED TO HAVE THE SAME FUNCTION IN THAT GROUP.
AND SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY ALL, AND THEN I CAN OF COURSE SEND OUT FIVE SO THAT BASE QUALIFY ALL HAVE THE SAME JOB TITLE OR THE ABILITIES.
SO THE BASE WOULD BE WHAT? UH, IT WOULD BE AT THE 43.
WELL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? YEAH.
I DIDN'T WRITE DOWN THE ENVIRONMENTAL ONE.
I'M SORRY, WHAT IS IT 40? THE DIFFERENCE IS I DIDN'T KNOW WHICH ONE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT 46, 45 SOMETHING.
WE'RE GONNA TALK SALVAGE LATER ANYWAY.
BUT I WANTED YOU TO BE PREPARED FOR WHAT I'M GONNA BRING AND JUST RIGHT.
AND YOU'LL PICK IT UP OVER THERE CUZ WHEN, WHEN WE'RE COMING BACK WITH IT.
BUT I DIDN'T WANNA, LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WILL AFFECT THE BUDGET NEXT YEAR.
SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU WERE AWARE.
SO YEAH, I'M NOT ASKING TO INCREASE, I JUST NEED THAT ONE POSITION.
I WOULD, DO YOU WANT ME TO COME TO COURT ON THE NEXT COURT DATE AND ASK FOR THAT CLERK? OR CAN I GET IT APPROVED TODAY? THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.
PENDING APPROVING TODAY FOR THE SALARY THAT'S IN THIS BUDGET, RIGHT? THERE'S NO, NO BECAUSE IT AFFECTS THE NEXT YEAR.
SO THEN I NEED TO WAIT TO FILL THAT.
I NEED TO WAIT TO FILL THAT UNTIL Y'ALL MAKE A DECISION.
WE'LL BE BACK ON SALARIES POSITIONS TWO OR THREE WEEKS.
YOU GUYS GOT ANY QUESTIONS? YOU'RE GOOD? NO.
DID I WE LET YOU DID FIVE MINUTES ALL THE TIME.
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YEAH, GOOD AFTERNOON.BASICALLY, UM, I'M HOPING YOU'D COME IN THERE AND TELL US THAT YOU LANDED THIS BINS OVER IN DALLAS,
DIDN'T SEE ME BECAUSE HE KNOWS GONNA SLAP HIM.
I SAID WELL YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR I'M JUST SHOWING THEM THE INCREASES.
HERE'S ANOTHER ONE COMING OUT.
NO, HE TOLD ME TO SHOW HIM THAT MESSAGE.
WE CAN INCLUDE, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.
BASICALLY HE'S JUST CUTTING ME OUT SOMETHING
I WANTED TO SEE HOW WE'RE GOING TO MAKE ALL THIS EXTRA MONEY.
HE HAD A SECRET HERE AND OH WELL GOOD.
I GOT, I MADE A COPY OF YOUR EMAIL.
BASICALLY WHAT WE ARE DOING IS WE ONLY ASKING FOR INCREASES IN REALLY FOUR DIFFERENT AREAS.
AND THAT'S JUST BECAUSE THE COSTS HAVE GONE UP.
LIKE DETENTION, SEVERAL DETENTION CENTERS THAT WE ARE CONTRACTING, THEY WENT UP FROM LIKE 150 TO $200 A DAY.
AND UM, YOU KNOW GAS TRANSPORTATION IS GAS.
BECAUSE WITH THE STATE FUNDING THAT WE GET FOR PLACEMENT, WE HAVE TO GO TO PLACEMENT ONCE A MONTH TO VISIT THE KIDS.
AND WE GOT KIDS IN, UH, ROCKDALE, SAN MARCOS.
GRAYSON AND WE GOT SOME IN MARSHALL.
SO WE GOT 'EM ALL AROUND THE STATE AND WE HAVE TO TRAVEL THERE AT LEAST ONCE A MONTH, SEE ALL THOSE KIDS.
AND I THINK RIGHT NOW WE HAVE UH, ABOUT NINE KIDS IN PLACEMENT.
WHICH, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOOD THAT THE STATE IS PAYING THAT BECAUSE THAT'S PROBABLY ROUGHLY ABOUT $400,000 THAT WE ARE SAVING.
THROUGH THE STATE, UM, TRAINING BECAUSE WE HAVE MORE STAFF.
SO WE ARE ASKING FOR JUST A LITTLE INCREASE, INCREASE IN THAT AS WELL.
UM, OPERATING NOW, ONE THING THAT'S GOING ON WITH THE STATE, UH, THIS YEAR THEY SAID WE COULD NO LONGER COLLECT PROBATION FEES.
SO WITH OPERATING, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS A LOT, LOT OF THINGS THAT WE PAID OUTTA PROBATION FEES WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PAY OUTTA OPERATING FEE FEES OUTTA THE COUNTY TO OFFSET THAT LOSS.
HOW MANY DOLLARS IS THAT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS? UH, THE, THE COUNTY STATE SIDE.
THE PROB THE PROBATION FEES, THE PROBATION THAT YOU'VE BEEN PAYING.
UH UH NORMALLY WE COLLECT ANYWHERE FROM 75 TO $9,000 A YEAR.
BUT IT'S BEEN, IT'S NOT BIG MONEY THEN? NO, IT'S NOT.
CAUSE IT'S ONLY $15 A MONTH AT THE MOST A WE CAN.
UM, ONE THING THAT'S GOOD COMING FROM THE STATE, THEY DID INCREASE OUR BUDGET 171,000 THIS YEAR.
UM, THE AND THE ONLY OTHER COST THAT WE ARE ASKING ARE UM, IS FOR A NEW CAR.
WE HAVE ONE CAR, THE TRAVERSE IS 2012 AND WE HAVE 170,000 MILES ON IT AND WE WOULD LIKE TO UH, EXCHANGE THAT OUT.
OTHER THAN THAT, I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S ALL WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
DID HE TURN IN A PRICE ON THE CAR? I DIDN'T.
ASKING FOR WHAT HE DID DO THOUGH.
THEY PUT UH, 1,000,860 COMING FROM THE COUNTY FOR OUR PORTION AND I ONLY PUT 1,000,005 MM-HMM
SO THERE'S ANOTHER $360,000 I GOTTA COME UP WITH.
AND THAT'S FOR DETENTION I THINK ISN'T THE STATE PAYS 28% AND WE PAY 72.
YEAH, THAT SO WELL THAT'S, THAT SOUNDS ABOUT NORMAL.
IT WAS AN INCREASE THIS YEAR, WHICH IS GOOD.
YOU WOULDN'T HAVE GOT THE BIG RAINS WOULD BE OKAY.
HAVE WE GOT ANY MORE BEDS? I'M GLAD YOU SAID THAT.
WE, I TRIED, I TALKED TO BELL COUNTY UHHUH AND HERE, HERE'S WHAT THE PROBLEM IS.
UM, SHORTAGE OF HELP IS WHAT WE'RE RUNNING INTO EVEN RIGHT NOW.
WE, UM, THIS PAST WEEK I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH HARRISON COUNTY.
THEY BEEN OUT OF ELECTRICITY AND WE HAD THREE KIDS THERE.
TWO IN LONG TERM AND ONE IN SHORT TERM.
AND SO WE REMOVED THE TWO FROM LONG TERM AND SENT THEM HOME ON FURLOUGHS AND THE ONE THAT WAS IN DETENTION, WE HAD TO, THEY TRANSPORTED THEM TO THE JAIL, THE ANNEX JAIL NEXT TO THEIR JAIL.
AND THE DETENTION STAFF HAD TO RUN THAT BECAUSE IT GOT UP TO 90 DEGREES IN THE DETENTION CENTER ON YESTERDAY.
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SO WE, YEAH, IT'S, IT'S BEEN A MESS OUT THERE.SO WE STILL SHORT STILL NO NEW BEDS.
THEY ONE I TALKED TO, JUST LIKE YOU SAID, NO STAFF.
THE STAFF, THEY HAD IT ON THE NEWS THE OTHER DAY IN DALLAS.
THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY MP EMPTY THEY HAD BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T RUN 'EM BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE PHONE.
AND THE BACKUP WAS WITH TJ, JD WITH THE KIDS THAT'S COMMITTED TO TJ.
DALLAS HAD MAYBE 10 OR 15 KIDS THAT THEY COULD POSSIBLY EXTRA BEDS FOR US, BUT THEY WERE WAITING TO GO TO T J JD.
SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE RUNNING LIKE THREE MONTHS BEHIND ONCE THEY ARE SENTENCED TO T J JD.
SO THAT'S COSTING, MAYBE THEY'RE HOPING WE'LL STILL GET THEM THAT SOME KIND OF CONTRACT WITH 'EM.
HOPEFULLY THEN WE HAVE A CLOSE KNIT PLACE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL HAVE SOMEBODY TO TAKE SOMEBODY TO.
I MEAN AND IT'LL KIND OF HELP OUR PROBLEMS. IT WOULD HELP OUT A WHOLE LOT.
ONCE THEY GET EVERYTHING DOWN, KEEP WORKING ON IT, CALL DAY AND THEN CALL 'EM AGAIN THAT EVENING, THEN I'M WORKING ON THEM.
YOUR INCREASE ON DETENTION IS BECAUSE OF THE RATES GOING ON.
UM, WE WENT FROM 3 75 TO 800,000.
YEAH, ABOUT 50 BUCKS A DAY WASN'T IT? UH, ONE 50 TO 200.
DEN COUNTY, UH, VICTORIA COUNTY, THEY ALL BELL COUNTY, THEY ALL $200 A DAY.
AND UM, EVEN GRAYSON, WE HAD TWO CONTRACT BEDS WITH THEM.
WE'RE AT THE MERCY OF EVERYONE ELSE.
IT COSTS US THAT MUCH TO KEEP 'EM HERE.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD HOURS, IT DIDN'T COST US THAT MUCH.
I THINK THE STATE ESTIMATED ROUGHLY ABOUT THREE, $300 A DAY BASICALLY.
WHAT ELSE DO YOU HAVE FOR US? THAT'S ALL I HAVE, SIR.
ANY QUESTIONS? SOUNDS LIKE IT WAS PLENTY
YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM? I MEAN OKAY.
THEY SHOULD BE ON YOUR BUILDING IN ABOUT THREE WEEKS TO PUT THE NEW ROOF ON.
THEN YOU'RE GONNA TURN YOUR WATER BACK ON CUZ YOU'LL, FOR 'EM TO FINISH UP.
HEY, WE ARE HAPPY JUST TO GET A ROOF OVER.
I JUST WISH EVERYBODY HAD YOUR ANSWERED.
PAGE 1 0 5 4 WORLD WOULD BE BETTER.
READY? THANK YOU YOU FOR BEING HERE.
SO, DELAN AND COMMISSIONERS AND, UM, COMMISSIONER HUNT.
IN HIS ABSENCE, I'M ASKING, UM, REQUESTING A TOTAL OF 4,400, APPROXIMATELY $8 AND INCREASING MY BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR.
SO I'M GONNA START WITH MY PART-TIME.
WE HAVE, THERE'S THREE FULL-TIMERS AND WE HAVE THREE PART-TIMERS.
UM, JUST INCREASING, ADDING LIKE 20 HOURS OVER THE SUMMER FROM JUNE TO JULY.
UM, JUST, UH, THAT'S LIKE APPROXIMATELY THREE HOURS A WEEK FOR THOSE THAT ARE EXISTING.
JUST BECAUSE WE'RE DOING, THIS YEAR WE ARE, THIS SUMMER WE'RE DOING A LITTLE BIT MORE AFTER HOURS PROGRAMMING, SO AFTER SIX O'CLOCK AND ON SATURDAYS.
SO THAT'S WORKING OUT REALLY GOOD.
UM, BUT IT DOES REQUIRE, EVEN THOUGH THE FULL-TIMERS ARE THERE SOME PART-TIME HELP TO HELP RUN THE DESK.
SO JUST, UM, SO THAT IS LIKE 20 HOURS AND I'M ESTIMATED LIKE AT $14 AN HOUR AT TWO 80.
SO WHATEVER ELSE IT'LL COME WITH THAT.
IN OUR SUPPLY BUDGET, I'M ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL $325 JUST TO PURCHASE A SHREDDER TO HAVE OUT FOR THE PUBLIC TO USE.
WE HAVE LIKE A SHREDDER FOR THE STAFF, BUT AFTER THEY PRINT SOMETHING OR THEY'RE SIGNING THINGS OR THEY HAVE RECEIPTS, THAT WAY THEY CAN JUST SHRED 'EM RIGHT THERE INSTEAD OF US TAKING 'EM TO THE BACK.
AND NOW YOU JUST BUY LIKE A SHREDDED WALMART TYPE THING? YES, WE CAN DO THAT.
SO THIS ONE IS JUST A PRICE FROM, UM, OAK CLIFF OFFICE PRODUCTS.
CUZ WE, I THINK WE GOT OUR LAST ONE THAT HAS LASTED QUITE A BIT.
THE ONE, THIS PAST ONE WE BOUGHT, I THINK WE'RE GOING ON LIKE OUR FIFTH YEAR ON IT.
YEAH, THAT'S, IT'S JUST SIMPLE RECEIPTS.
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YEAH, WE'RE NOT DOING, LIKE, THEY DON'T, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THEM HAVING A BIG SHRED DAY WHERE THEY'RE BEING IN CARDBOARD BOXES OF, THIS IS JUST LIKE AFTER A POINT JUST TO SHRED THEIR PERSONAL INFORMATION.FOR THEM TO DO IT THEMSELVES MOSTLY.
OUR BIGGEST INCREASE ASK IS IN OUR BOOK, OUR MATERIALS BUDGET.
UM, THIS IS JUST A 10% INCREASE AT $3,508.
UM, WE GET, WE USUALLY OUR MAIN VENDOR IS BRODART AND WE GET LIKE 43 TO 47% DISCOUNT ON OUR MATERIALS.
BUT THE PROCESSING, BECAUSE OUR BOOKS, OUR MATERIALS ALL COME IN SHELF READY, SO THE LABELS ARE ON 'EM, THE BARCODES, SO THEY'RE PRETTY, THE CATALOGING THAT GOES WITH IT.
SO THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH READY TO GO ON THE SHELF.
BUT THAT PROCESS INCREASED FROM 89 TO 99 CENTS PER ITEM.
SO THAT IS WHERE THAT 10 PROCEEDS CENT COMES UP AND IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST, UH, 10% JUST THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS TOO.
SO, UM, THE LAST INCREASE IS LIKE 1,265, UM, IN THE COMMUNICATIONS LINE ITEM THAT IS TO COVER OUR CIRCULATING DEVICES.
UM, THE GRANT WILL PAY FOR THOSE THROUGH THE END OF SEPTEMBER, SO WE'LL PICK UP THAT AND, UM, THAT'S THROUGH AT AND T.
AND THEY HAVE LIKE A COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP GRANT.
SO THOSE DEVICES ARE ROUGHLY COSTING US ABOUT $15 A MONTH TO CIRCULATE THOSE.
SO, UM, IN THIS BUDGET THERE IS LIKE $970.
THAT'S LIKE A WEBSITE FEE, WHICH WE USED TO PAY, BUT WHEN THE COUNTY SWITCHED OVER THE WEBSITE, THEN I THINK THEY ABSORBED US INTO THAT.
SO THAT CAN DEFINITELY COME OUT OF THERE.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU ON BOOKS.
WE HAVE A COLLECTION DEVELOPMENT POLICY.
WE DO LET OUR PATRONS, WE'RE REALLY PATRON DRIVEN ON MOST SOME OF THAT WHERE THEY, IF THEY HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS OR THERE'S BOOKS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE US TO LOOK AT TO BUY, BUT WE DO, WE SELECT 'EM.
BUT WE HAVE A POLICY THAT LOOKS LIKE, UM, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT ANYONE ELSE THAT THE, THE LIBRARY OTHER USERS WOULD CHECK OUT? UM, IS IT APPROPRIATE INFORMATION? SO IT JUST DEPENDS.
BUT WE DO, THAT WAS MY QUESTION.
COME THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE WAS A RIGHT.
INTRODUCED SOME BOOKS THAT SHOULD NOT BE AVAILABLE TO ANYONE UNDER 18 YEARS OF AGE.
THE QUESTION IS, DO WE HAVE THOSE ON OUR SHELVES? AND IF WE DO, ARE THEY IN A SECTION WHERE THEY CAN'T BE? RIGHT.
SO ALL OF THAT IS SEPARATED OUT.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY WE READ EVERY BOOK THAT COMES THROUGH THERE, BUT WE DO NOT.
BUT THE YA WHICH IS LIKE A YOUNG, SO IT STARTS WITH EASY FICTION, WHICH IS LIKE FOR THE LITTLE BIT ONES WITH PICTURE BOOKS PROGRESSES TO JUVENILE, JUVENILE, WHICH IS LIKE YOUR MIDDLE SCHOOL GRADES.
THEN THERE'S A YA WHERE THE CONTENT GETS A LITTLE MORE RISQUE, THE LANGUAGE MIGHT GET A LITTLE MORE, UM, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THERE'S ADULT.
SO ALL OF THE CORNERS OF OUR LIBRARY REPRESENT THAT.
UM, A LOT OF THE BOOKS THAT ARE ON, UM, SOME OF THOSE LISTS THAT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, WANTING TO BAN, UM, WE MAY HAVE SOME THAT HAVE CONTENT IN, IN CON THAT CONTENT, BUT THAT IS NOT A BIG PART OF OUR COLLECTION.
AND NOT TO SAY THAT JUST IT REFLECTS THE COMMUNITY.
SO WHEN PEOPLE COME IN AND ASK FOR THAT, WE JUST KIND OF EVALUATE IT AND SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE USED BY THE MASSES.
CAUSE I DON'T THINK THOSE ARE APPROPRIATE TO HAVE.
IF THEY DON'T WANT SOME, LET 'EM GO SOMEWHERE ELSE AND GET THEM.
KIDS CAN WALK IN THERE, YOU CAN'T MONITOR IT.
I MEAN, YOU HAVE SECTIONS, WHICH IS GREAT MM-HMM.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF'EM THAT'S ON THAT LIST THAT I'VE SEEN IT ARE NOT IN THE LIBRARY.
I PREFER 'EM TO BE OUTTA THAT LIBRARY.
TAXPAYER'S MONEY WOULD NEED TO BE.
IT COULD BE THE DDS THAT NEED TO HAVE LIKE A TRIPLE R INSTEAD OF A R RATING ON THERE.
WELL, THE GOOD NEWS IS I DON'T KNOW, ANY OF US HEARD, ANYBODY HEARD ANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT ANYTHING IN OUR LIBRARY.
AND WE USUALLY TRY TO HANDLE THAT BEFORE IT GETS ALL THE WAY UP LIKE THAT.
NO, BUT SOME THINGS GO UNSAID MM-HMM.
BUT IT'S JUST LIKE OUR PROGRAMMING WHERE THERE ARE, THERE WAS A LOT OF LEGISLATURE ABOUT THE PROGRAMMING WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT, LET'S SAY THE DRAG QUEEN STORY TIMES.
WELL THE FULL-TIMERS ARE THE ONLY ONE THAT DO THE PROGRAMMING.
AND IN THE SUMMER, THOSE PERFORMERS THAT WE HAVE ARE ALL ON A LIST THROUGH THE STATE LIBRARY THAT WE CHOOSE FROM.
AND EVEN IF SOMEONE WANTED TO COME IN AND DO OUR MEETING ROOM, MAYBE THEY WANTED TO DO A STORY TIME THERE.
WELL WE ALREADY HAVE OUR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES IN PLACE TO, UH, NOT TO BE DISCRIMINATING
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AGAINST ANYTHING BUT THAT THAT IS NOT SPONSORED BY THE LIBRARY OR THE COUNTY OR THE COMMUNITY.BUT DO YOU'RE SAYING IF SOMEONE COME IN AND DRAG QUEEN STUFF, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED? YEAH, NO, BECAUSE WE'RE, I MEAN WE'RE DOING THE PROGRAMMING.
AND THEN THAT'S, YOU KNOW, BACKGROUND CHECKS.
SO ALL OF OUR PERFORMERS AND PEOPLE THAT ARE PROGRAMMING THERE ARE VETTED.
SO THAT'S ALL, THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE.
YOU'RE NOT ASKING FOR MUCH AND IT'S GRATEFUL.
YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB OVER BY THE WAY.
I WANT TELL YOU THAT THE CITY MANAGER THOUGHT YOU WERE REALLY? YEAH.
SO WE'RE REALLY WORKING ON DOING GOOD.
IT LOOKS LIKE OUR PERSONAL AGENT ARE NEXT VICTIM UP HERE.
ISN'T THERE TIME TO GO HOME?
HOW ARE Y'ALL? RIGHT? WHAT PAGE ARE WE ON LADIES? SHOULD BE PAGE 42.
SO GENTLEMEN, WE, WE, UH, REDUCED THE, UH, GAS AND OIL BY 500 AND REDUCED, UH, MISCELLANEOUS BY 5,000 AND REDUCED SURPLUS BY 2,500.
UH, ASKED YOU FOR INCREASE IN MILLS, UH, MILEAGE AND LODGING OF 1500 AND TRAINING EDUCATION 1500 TO GET SOME OF THESE PEOPLE, UH, TRAINED IN THE OFFICE AND, UH, ENDED UP WITH A OVERALL REDUCTION OF 5,000 IN THE BUDGET.
UH, IN, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'RE ASKING FOR THE FINAL PHASE OF THE, UH, STAFFING, UH, FOR ONE POSITION FOR, UH, UH, A FIXED ASSET COORDINATOR, UH, BASED ON A, UH, SALARY AT 46,000.
UH, BACK IN 16, THE, THE PURCHASING BOARD WAS KIND OF ON, ON BOARD WITH ADDING A FOURTH PER FOURTH PERSON.
UH, THEN I RETIRED AND OF COURSE THE PERSON TOOK THAT ON, AS YOU WELL KNOW, WAS ACTING.
AND, AND THEY TEND TO TRY TO HOLD THE LINE AND, AND THEY DIDN'T HIRE ANOTHER PERSON.
AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE JUST NOW GETTING UP TO THAT FOURTH PERSON, UH, HERE A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.
UH, SO WE'RE ALREADY DOWN SOME, JUST SOME FIGURES.
UH, WE'RE AT LIKE ONE SEVENTY TWO, A HUNDRED SEVENTY 2000 IN, IN, IN THE COUNTY POPULATION.
POTTER COUNTY, FOR INSTANCE, ONE 19.
THEY'RE AT 169,000 IN JOHNSON COUNTY.
UH, THEY'RE AT 1 77 AND THEY'VE GOT SIX PEOPLE.
AND SO THE, THE, AND THIS GOES TO SHOW YOU WE'RE MORE EFFICIENT THAN THEY ARE
WE HAVE BETTER AND THEY ARE BETTER.
THANK WHAT WHAT WE'RE IN HOPES OF DOING THIS WITH THIS POSITION, IF YOU GUYS PROVE THAT IS, IS THAT PERSON WOULD BE MAINLY DOING FIXED ASSETS AS THAT'S GROWING ALL THE TIME.
UH, WE'RE OUT INVENTORYING TODAY.
THERE'S TWO OUT DOING THAT TOMORROW WE'LL HAVE THREE PEOPLE DOING IT.
UH, IT WOULD GIVE US ABILITY TO SET EYES ON MORE STUFF.
UH, IN ADDITION TO THAT, I THINK THAT PERSON WOULD PROBABLY TAKE OVER THE, UH, ENTERPRISE CAR LEASING.
SO THEY'D HAVE TWO FUNCTIONS TO THAT'S A FULL-TIME JOB WHEN YOU PUT THE OH YEAH.
LEASING THING AND FIX ASSETS TOGETHER, UH, THAT'S A FULL-TIME JOB.
I THINK THAT'S A NECESSARY POSITION.
CUZ THAT ONE PERSON WAS IN FULL CONTROL AND DIDN'T TEACH THEIR STAFF HOW TO DO IT.
AND THERE'S A SECRET AND THE GENERAL LEDGER, OKAY.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE A FUND BY ITSELF THAT'S CALLED FIXED ASSETS.
AND WHEN YOU GET A PIECE OF PROPERTY OR YOU SELL A PIECE OF PROPERTY OR YOU BUILD A BUILDING WHILE YOU'RE BUILDING IT, YOU GOTTA ACCOUNT FOR IT AS WORK IN PROGRESS.
WHEN YOU FINISH IT, IT BECOMES A FULL ASSET AND YOU HAVE TO KNOW THE CODE TO MAKE IT GO AND TAG THAT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, WHATEVER IT IS TO THAT
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FUND THAT'S FOR FIXED ASSETS.AND IT TOOK US A WHILE TO FIND OUT.
HE NEEDS SOMEONE THAT DEDICATES THEIR TIME TO FIXED ASSETS.
AND NOW WITH ALL THE LEASES AND THE ENTERPRISE, THE GROWTH, YOU KNOW, WELL WE HAVE A LOT AND WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO GROW AND THERE'S GONNA BE MORE AND MORE ASSETS GOT TO BE ACCOUNTED FAR AND TRACKED WELL AND THE ALTARS BEEN A BIG, A BIG HELP ON ALL THE NEW GABY CHANGES.
AND SO WE, WE HAVE THINGS LIKE, I'M GONNA TELL YOU I WASN'T OVER THAT PERSON CUZ THAT WAS A SEPARATE POSITION, A SEPARATE DEPARTMENT.
BUT H O K TALKED TO IN TO PAY IN FOR BOTH THE ADOPTION CENTER AND THE JUSTICE CENTER OUT OF ONE LINE ITEM.
AND THAT'S THE WAY SHE DID IT.
NOW I'VE GOTTA PULL THE HISTORY AND PULL IN ON A SPREADSHEET THAT'S GONNA ADD UP AND TELL ME WHAT THAT ADOPTION CENTER COST US AND WHAT JUSTICE CENTER COST US SO IT CAN BE RECORDED.
AND THEN BEFORE Y'ALL TOOK OFFICE, WE BOUGHT THE ADVOCACY BUILDING FOR THEM.
AND NOBODY ASKED ME WHERE THAT MILLION SOMETHING CAME FROM.
I JUST TOOK IT OUT OF THE BANK AND BOUGHT IT FOR THEM.
I STILL GOTTA COVER THAT IN THE BUDGET.
WE SOLD THE LAND IN BUILDINGS THAT I CAN USE, BUT IT'S, THINGS WEREN'T COMMUNICATED BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE WAS IN CONTROL.
WELL, JUDGE, WE'RE ALSO FINDING, UH, THAT ALTAR KIND OF LED US, UH, TO WHERE WE NEEDED TO BE.
THAT, UH, NEW THINGS LIKE COPIERS THAT WE LEASE WERE NEVER LISTED AS ASSETS AND DIFFERENT THINGS.
AND EVEN THE VEHICLES THAT WE DON'T OWN, WHICH I FIND KIND OF STRANGE, WE'RE COUNTING THOSE AS ASSETS EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T OWN THEM AND, AND WE CANNOT OWN THEM.
SO THERE'S ALL KINDS OF CHANGES IN THE LAW.
THE DOCTORS HELPED, HELPED ME ON GETTING THAT, GETTING THAT STRAIGHT, HOPEFULLY WITH THIS EXTRA PERSON.
BRING, UH, THE REST OF THE PERMISSIONS UP REAL QUICKLY ON THE JUSTICE CENTER AND ANNEX OR THE ADDITION EXPANSION KIND OF WHERE WE ARE.
SO NO, UH, ON THE EXPANSION, I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE STILL LOOKING PROBABLY END OF JULY, UH, GETTING THAT DONE.
UH, THAT, THAT'S THE EX EXPECTATION TO HAVE THAT FINISHED.
UH, AND WE'LL HAVE FURNITURE BEING DELIVERED ABOUT THAT TIME.
I THINK OUR BENCHES WILL BE READY ABOUT THAT TIME.
I'M, I'M, IF NOT, I'LL BE BUYING FOLDING CHAIRS.
AND THEN OF COURSE, WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF HAVING A STUDY DONE AT THE, UH, UH, OLD COURTHOUSE.
AND ALSO I SPOKE WITH, UH, GREG TODAY ON, ON THE PARKING LOT.
UH, SO WE'RE GOING, WE'RE LOOKING AT MAYBE, UH, SEEING WHAT WE CAN DO WITH, WITH THE, WE DID RF, THERE WAS AN RFP DONE MONTHS AGO TO HIRE, UH, UH, GALLAGHER.
AND WE THINK WE COULD STILL USE THAT SAME UMBRELLA.
AND SINCE THEY, THEY KNOW ABOUT ALL THE, THE DRAINAGE AND THEY HAVE ARCHITECTS ENGINEERING ON STAFF, THAT MIGHT BE A, A VITAL.
AND THE
I HAVE IT THERE FROM CALLED AND LEFT A MESSAGE AGAIN THIS MORNING.
SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN, UH, CONFIRM WHETHER WE CAN USE THAT OR NOT.
BEFORE Y'ALL STOP, WE NEED TO GO TO PAGE 75.
Y'ALL NEED TO LOOK AT THESE LEASE PAYMENTS THAT MS. ZELLE HAS PICKED UP FOR US AND WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED.
AND I ASKED THE PURCHASING AGENT AND HE WOULD BRING HER ALONG SO SHE COULD EXPLAIN TO YOU HOW THIS IS WORKING.
AND SHE'S ALREADY GAVE ME THE REPORT TO SPLIT OUT ROAD AND BRIDGE AND THEN SHE'S GONNA RUN ME ANOTHER REPORT BY A DEPARTMENT AND THAT'S GONNA MAKE SOME DEPARTMENT GO WAY UP WHEN I PUT THAT MONEY OUT THERE.
AND, AND RIGHT BEFORE WE GET INTO THAT, I, I HAVE SOME THINGS I JUST WANNA BRING OUT.
UH, UH, I THINK WE NEED TO, TO GET A STANDARD ON, UH, THE EQUIPMENT, UH, WHEN A PURSUIT VEHICLE COMES IN, WE'RE, I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT PURSUIT VEHICLES.
I THINK WE NEED TO GET A STANDARD, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THE CONSTABLES ALL USE SIMILAR EQUIPMENT.
UH, THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT IS WE, UH, WHEN WE BUY A VEHICLE AND IT'S CARRIED TO THE SHOP TO PUT THE EQUIPMENT ON, IF IT'S LESS THAN 10,000, UH, WE PAY IT 25% UPFRONT FOR THE
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EQUIPMENT AND THE REST IS FINANCED THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE LEASE.IF IT'S MORE THAN 10,000, WE PAY 50% AND THEN THAT EQUIPMENT IS ADDED TO THE LEASE.
SO I'M NOT SURE WHETHER THERE SHOULD BE SOME CONSIDERATION WHETHER, UH, THEY PUT IT IN THE BUDGET TO BUY THE EQUIPMENT AND NOT ADD IT TO THE LEASE.
WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE EQUIPMENT WE TURN THE CAR IN, DO WE RETAIN THAT EQUIPMENT OR WHERE DOES IT GO? IT'S, IT'S ONE CYCLE.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS WHEN, WHEN, UH, THE, WE KEEP IT, YEAH.
WE, WE KEEP IT, WE KEEP THE EQUIPMENT THE NEXT, WHEN THE NEXT CAR COMES BACK OR PLACE THAT CAR WITH THAT EQUIPMENT, WE PUT THAT ON ONE CYCLE.
WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING TWO CYCLES OUT EQUIPMENT BEFORE WE JUST OKAY.
WE JUST WALKED OUT ALL THAT QUESTIONS.
NOW SOMETHING ELSE TO CONSIDER IS AFTER THAT, AFTER THAT SECOND CYCLE, UH, THERE'S GONNA BE A COST TO REMOVE THAT EQUIPMENT.
UH, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT NEEDS TO BE IN THEIR BUDGET OR ADDED TO THE LEASE PAYMENTS.
WHAT DO WE DO IF THE EQUIPMENT AFTER THE SECOND CYCLE? IT, IT'S OURS.
I MEAN, WHAT DO WE DO WITH IT? PUT IT IN THE AUCTION AGAIN.
AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS CAUSE THE BODY STYLES CHANGE.
SO LIKE A LOT OF THE CONSOLE STANDS AND STUFF, IT'S JUST YOU GOT THE NEWER VEHICLES COMING OUT, YOU THE WE REFILL.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS MUCH VALUE TO IT OR NOT.
THEN THE MESQUITE'S IN THEIRS OUT TO HAVE THEIRS PUT ON ALL THEIRS AND THEY PUT IT ON, THEY STARTED DOING THAT TOWARDS THE END BECAUSE OF STAFFING.
THEY HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE FOR THE CITY TO DO IT.
SO THEY STARTED GOING OUT TO DIFFERENT OKAY.
I WAS JUST WONDERING IF IT, IF IT WAS CHEAPER IF YOU ENDED UP IN THE LONG RUN ACTUALLY GETTING SOMEBODY THAT COULD ACTUALLY DO THAT AND HAVE 'EM IN THE HOUSE WHERE THEY COULD JUST, THAT'S ALL THEY DID SIT THERE AND, AND AS MANY CARS AS WE HAVE, IT SEEMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU'D ALMOST COME OUT BETTER SOMETIME.
BUT IN THE CITY DID THAT, I KNOW THEY HAD, THEY CALLED THE COP SHOP AND HAD EIGHT EMPLOYEES IN THERE, YOU KNOW, JUST DOING THE CAR WORK ON JUST POLICE VEHICLES.
LOAN THEY DOWN TO TWO WHEN I LEFT
I MEAN IT'S, YEAH, THEY FARMED THAT AT CAUSE THEY JUST COULDN'T KEEP UP.
AND, AND ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE'RE HAVING, TWO IS, IS WHEN YOU BUY THE VEHICLES FROM, I BELIEVE FROM CAP, UH, TO GET THEIR VEHICLES, YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE CARS WHERE THEY HAVE INSTALLED X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS WORTH EQUIPMENT ON THERE.
THERE'S NO OPTION, UH, TO WHERE YOU GO.
YOU HAVE TO GET IT PUT ON BY THEM.
AND THEN, UH, SOMETHING TO CONSIDER, UH, I'M, I'M SURE THE SHERIFF PROBABLY KNOWS THIS, BUT THE 20 THREES, WERE WAITING ON THOSE OBVIOUSLY.
AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS TALK TO THE DEALERS THAT, UH, IF YOU HAVE VEHICLES THAT ARE ON ORDER CURRENTLY FOR 23 AND THEY START PRODUCING 20 FOURS, THAT THEY WILL PROBABLY CANCEL THE ORDER THAT YOU HAVE FOR 20 THREES.
SO IT, IT IS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE.
AND ONE LAST THING I, I'LL, I'LL JUST PUT OUT THERE TOO IS THAT, UH, I'M NOT SURE IF WE NEED GET INTO A SITUATION WHERE, WHEN, WHEN A PURSUIT VEHICLE COMES AVAILABLE, THAT THAT'S WHAT THAT DEPARTMENT GETS.
CURRENTLY, WE MAY HAVE SOME AREAS THAT WANT A TAHOE AND NOT A, AN EXPLORER AND THE TAHOES ARE HARDER TO GET, BUT SOME OF THE EXPLORERS ARE COMING IN, BUT THEY'RE HOLDING OFF WANTING THE TAHOE.
I DON'T KNOW, AT SOME POINT IF WE DON'T, IF WE NEED TO DECIDE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA GET WHAT'S NEXT IN LINE.
HOW MUCH DIFFERENCE IN PRICE FROM ONE TO THE OTHER? UH, PROBABLY, WELL FOR INSTANCE, UH, UH, THE UH, UH, FORT EXPLORER WE WERE BUYING, UH, THROUGH ENTERPRISE, THEY BECAME UNAVAILABLE.
UH, SO WE FOUND ONE FOR, FOR A AREA AND THE FORT EXPLORER WAS 39,000 39 9.
AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS PRETTY BAD FOR THAT VEHICLE.
TALKED TO UH, CALL, CALL WASH.
THEY WERE LATER TODAY AND HE TELLS ME THAT NOW THE EXPLORERS ARE ON THE GROUND ARE 48,000 AND THE TAHOES ARE 52.
NOW I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THE SHERIFF KNOWS THAT.
UH, UH, HE PROBABLY DOES THAT THE DURANGO DODGE DURANGO HAS A POLICE PACKAGE.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER Y'ALL LOOKED AT THOSE OR NOT.
THAT'S EVEN WE'RE LOOKING AT DODGE HAS NEVER BEEN ANY GOOD.
BUT I'M WILLING TO TRY ANYTHING EXCEPT CALLS WE CAN DO.
CALDWELL HAS SOME ON, ON THE GROUND AT THIS TIME.
AND WAY HE EXPLAINED TO ME WAS DODGE WAS GETTING OUT OF THAT BUSINESS.
THEY DECIDED THEY WEREN'T GONNA STAY IN THE PURSUIT.
AND THEN WHEN THEY SAW THE PROBLEM CHEVROLET AND FORD WAS HAVING, NOW THEY'RE GEARING BACK UP AGAIN.
UH, BUT, BUT THAT IS AN OPTION.
THEY DECIDE WHEN FORD CHEVY GO BACK INTO PRODUCTION, THEN THEY'RE OUT AGAIN.
AND THAT MIGHT, AND AND CALDWELL I TALKED, THEY'RE AGAIN TALKED TO 'EM TODAY.
THEY'RE ALREADY WORKING ON 25.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE MODEL 20 FIVES.
UH, AND ONE OF THE ISSUES, JUST, I GUESS MY LAST THING I'LL SAY IS THAT, UH, AS YOU'RE AWARE OF WHEN WE HAVE SOME VEHICLES THAT ARE ORDERED FROM ENTERPRISE, THEY'RE NOT COMING IN.
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SOME MORE VEHICLES.SO WE'RE STILL, WE'RE STILL OBLIGATED TO THE ONES FROM ENTERPRISE WHEN THEY COME IN, UH, SPEAKING TO THE CHEVROLET FOLKS.
THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM YOU NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT.
I JUST LIKE YOU GUYS KNOW THAT.
UH, I THINK WE'LL FIND A HOME FOR 'EM REGARDLESS.
UM, THE NUMBERS THAT I SUBMITTED ARE GOING TO INCREASE.
UM, WE HAD A MEETING WITH KAYLA, OUR ENTERPRISE REP, AND SHE PUT TOGETHER, UM, A LIST OF, FOR US THE PRICES FOR 2024 HAVE NOT COME OUT YET.
SO SHE JUST KIND OF ESTIMATED LIKE A 10% INCREASE BASED ON LAST YEAR'S NUMBERS.
UM, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT, IF WE JUST REPLACE THE VEHICLES THAT ARE UP CURRENTLY FOR LEASE ABOUT A $20,000 INCREASE MONTHLY.
UM, IF WE REPLACE ALL THE VEHICLES THAT ARE RECOMMENDED BE REPLACED AND THEY, THEY RECOMMEND BASED ON THINGS LIKE MILEAGE OR UM, MAINTENANCE THAT'S DONE TO THE VEHICLES, UM, PLUS THE GROWTH VEHICLES THAT DEPARTMENTS HAVE REQUESTED, THAT WOULD BRING US TO AN ADDITIONAL 45,000 DO DOLLAR A MONTH INCREASE.
UM, SO THOSE ARE JUST THINGS TO CONSIDER.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE DEPARTMENTS THAT WANT TO HOLD THEIR VEHICLES FOR UH, SPARES.
THAT ALSO HURTS THE BOTTOM LINE BECAUSE THAT MONEY GOES BACK INTO THE LEASE PROGRAM.
SO IF THEY KEEP THE VEHICLE, THAT'S MORE MONEY THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT WILL GO BACK INTO THE PROGRAM.
COME ABOUT FOR THE ROAD BRIDGE.
LIKE SOME OF THE CONSTABLES WANT TO KEEP SOME OF THEIR, UH, OLDER VEHICLES THAT THE COUNTY OWNED.
WE ALREADY OWN THOSE VEHICLES THAT WE OWN.
THEY WANNA KEEP THOSE FOR SPARES.
UM, WHENEVER I GUESS ENTERPRISE CAME OUT AND TALKED TO THE COMMISSIONERS A FEW YEARS AGO, THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIG SELLING POINTS IS US SELLING THOSE VEHICLES TO KEEP THE PROGRAM GOING.
IF WE DON'T SELL THOSE VEHICLES, THAT'S MONEY THAT WE'RE LOSING OUT THAT WE HAVE TO COME OUT OF POCKET TO PAY FOR OR THE COUNTY RATHER HAS TO COME OUT OF POCKET.
THE ONE OF ARGUMENTS WE HAD WITH THAT IN THE MEETING WAS IS YOU'LL NEVER OWN THESE ENTERPRISE VEHICLES.
I MEAN IT'S AT ONE POINT ALL THE COUNTY WILL BE NO MORE COUNTY OWNED VEHICLES ARE ALL GONNA BE ENTERPRISE VEHICLES THAN IF SOMETHING EVER HAPPENS, WE'LL GET OUT OF THAT PROGRAM.
WE HAVE NO VEHICLES CAUSE WE DON'T GET TIED, WE DON'T HAVE A BUYOUT OPTION WITH ENTERPRISE SO LOT.
LIKE I KNOW LIKE, UH, I THINK HIM, COMMISSIONER HUNT AND MYSELF AND I THINK SKE, WE, WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT DOING IT ANYMORE ONCE THE LEASE VEHICLES WE'RE GIVING THEM BACK.
I NEVER, I NEVER, YEAH, HE'S NEVER PARTICIPATED.
SO I, YOU KNOW, MY PRECINCT STILL OWNS THE SAME VEHICLES THAT WE OWNED WHEN THEY STARTED.
BUT THE VEHICLES ARE ALSO, ALL YOUR EXISTING VEHICLES ARE ON A LIST THAT YOU OWN TO BE REPLACED.
AND I HAD OURS REMOVED PRECINCT FOURS VEHICLES REMOVED FROM THAT LIST SO THAT SHE'S NOT SAYING, HEY, YOU HAVE THESE FOUR VEHICLES, YOU NEED TO GIVE 'EM OFF.
AND EVEN IF THEY COME UP ON THE LIST, WE STILL MAKE THE FINAL DECISION IF WE WANT TO REPLACE THAT VEHICLE OR NOT.
SO THIS 44,000 THAT INCLUDES THE VEHICLES THAT THEY RECOMMEND BE REPLACED, WE DON'T HAVE TO REPLACE THOSE.
UM, IT'S UP TO US IF, IF WE DECIDE TO REPLACE THOSE OR NOT.
SO I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S A PURCHASING DECISION.
AND I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT ALTERNATIVES.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT'S AT OR ANYTHING.
BUT HAS THIS PROGRAM BEEN TRACKED? I MEAN IS THIS SAVING US MONEY HERE? IS IT COSTING US MONEY? I PERSONALLY THINK IT COULD SAVE MONEY IF JUST THE LAW ENFORCEMENT POLICE GRAVE VEHICLES ARE ON THERE.
IT IS VERY BENEFICIAL FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY GET NEWER VEHICLES.
UM, MORE OFTEN THE DEPARTMENTS, UM, LIKE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES OR THE MAIN, UH, FACILITIES DEPARTMENT OR ROAD AND BRIDGE WHO CAN KEEP THEIR VEHICLES FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME BECAUSE THEY DON'T DRIVE AS MUCH.
I DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY SHOULD BE ON THE PROGRAM.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT THOUGH.
THAT'S A GOOD POINT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS MAYBE BACKING OFF.
YEAH, WELL I, I TRIED TO BRING THAT UP WHEN WE STARTED AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SELL FOR ME IF I'VE GOT A VEHICLE THAT'S 10 YEARS OLD, NO MORE PUT 40,000 MILES ON IT, I DON'T WANNA PAY $2,000 A MONTH FOR IT.
I MEAN THE BOTTOM LINE IS CUZ IT, IT NEVER GET TRADED IN EXCEPT THAT THIS NEEDS TO BE A NEW VEHICLE AND THEN THE NEXT TIME IT'S 2,500 INSTEAD OF 2000.
ONE OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE HAD WAS ENTERPRISE IS NOT A DEALER.
SO BY LAW THEY CAN'T TECHNICALLY SELL.
THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO GO TO AN AUCTION.
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SO, UH, ONE BIG OPTION IS LIKE, AND WITH LIKE A CAR DEALER, IF YOU WAS DOING A LEASE OPTION THROUGH A CAR DEALERS, THEY CAN SELL YOU A BUYOUT OPTION AT THE END.SO SAY YOU DO HAVE A VEHICLE YOU LEASE FOR FOUR YEARS, YOU'VE ALREADY PAID, YOU KNOW SO MUCH MONEY FOR FOUR YEARS AND YOU'RE LIKE, HEY, HOW MUCH IS THE BUYOUT? AND THEY MAY SAY IT'S 10,000, 12,000.
YOU CAN, WE'RE GONNA KEEP THIS STRUCTURE, WE'RE GONNA BUY IT OUT.
THE ENTERPRISE GIVE YOU THE OPTION.
THEY'LL TELL YOU YOU CAN KEEP THAT VEHICLE AS LONG AS YOU WANT, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO STILL MAKE YOU PAY THE FEE EACH MONTH.
SO, BUT, BUT THEY WILL TELL YOU YOU WILL NEVER OWN THAT VEHICLE IN THAT VEHICLE.
WHEN SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK I KNOW WITH JACK AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT WITH OTHER OPTIONS MAYBE GIVEN US DIFFERENT OPTION WITH DIFFERENT WELL I THINK Y'ALL NEED DECIDE ON THE ROAD BRIEF.
Y'ALL NEED TO DECIDE ON WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH YOUR OWN STUFF.
AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YEAH, IT'D BE BETTER FOR YOU TO OWN THEM.
YOU TAKE CARE OF THEM BETTER THEN YOU TRADE 'EM WHEN YOU NEED TO.
WELL, SALARY CURRENTLY HAVE THREE LEASE.
I HAVE FOUR ONES GOING OFF LEASE IN DECEMBER.
I'M GONNA GIVE IT BACK AND THEN I HAVE THREE MORE THAT DON'T GO OUT UNTIL LIKE 20, 20, 25, 20 26.
SO WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THOSE VEHICLES FOR NOW UNTIL WE GET TO THAT POINT.
SO, BUT, AND I THINK COMMISSIONER ASKED ME ABOUT ANOTHER SOURCE.
LEASE VEHICLES NOT REACHED OUT THOSE FOLKS YET.
ANOTHER CONCERN IS, DO YOU WANT TO GET INTO HAVING TWO DIFFERENT LEASE COMPANIES TO KEEP UP WITH? I WOULDN'T THINK SO.
WELL IF YOU HAVE A, IF YOU HAVE A PURCHASE AT THE END OF THE LEASE, IF YOU DO A THREE OR FOUR YEAR LEASE AND THEN WHEN THE PURCHASE BUY, YOU KNOW, LIKE ROAD AND BRIDGE IT MAKES SENSE.
YOU KNOW, CUZ AT THE END OF IT YOU JUST WRITE A FINAL CHECK.
SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE FINANCING IT FOR FOUR YEARS AND, AND THEN YOU PUT THE BALLOON NOTE END ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
DO WE WANT TWO? NO I JUST, WE NEED ONE THAT OFFERS A BUYOUT OPTION.
SO I MEAN WE CAN HAVE ONE FLEET LEASING COMPANY BUT IT NEEDS TO GIVE US THE OPTION TO BUYOUT AT THE END SO THAT WE'RE NOT STUCK ONE DAY WITH THE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE VEHICLES BEEN REPLACED AND YOU CAN'T BUY IT.
SO I THINK IT'D ALSO LIKE ME, IT'D BE A GOOD OPTION TO JUST HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT ON, ON THE PROGRAM AND EVERYONE ELSE TO BUY THE VEHICLES.
I THINK SO WHENEVER KEEP TRACK OF THAT AWAY PURCHASE, WE CAN CONTROL IT BETTER THAT WAY.
NOW ONE OF THE BIG CONCERNS IS, YOU KNOW, WHY THEY LIKE THE LEASING THING IS THAT, UH, THEY'LL ROTATED EVERY THREE YEARS OR FOUR YEARS, WHATEVER IT IS.
AND, AND IT'S NOT HIGH MILEAGE.
SO WE MIGHT COULD USE THE FLEET MAINTENANCE THING TO WHERE EVEN IF YOU'RE BUYING THE CARS, THAT YOU HAVE A PROGRAM THAT, THAT YOU DON'T KEEP A CAR SIX YEARS OR SEVEN YEARS OR 90,000 MILE.
YOU KNOW, SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
THE BOTTOM LINE DOWN THERE RIGHT.
LAST YEAR THAT YOU HAVE THE LEASE PROGRAM BUT THEN YOU HAVE REVENUE THAT OFFSETS THAT.
SO AS THEY HOLD VEHICLES, THAT'S GONNA AFFECT THE THE REVENUE SIDE BOTTOM.
A LOT OF 'EM MAY HAD TO HOLD THEM CUZ THEY DIDN'T GET THE CARDS TO REPLACE 'EM.
NOW WHOSE FAULT IS THAT? WELL YOU DON'T GIVE UP YOUR VEHICLE UNTIL YOU GET YOUR VEHICLE.
I KNOW, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT HURTS THE BOTTOM LINE.
CAUSE YOU DIDN'T WEREN'T SELLING OFF CARS TO BE IN THE LEASE PROGRAM.
WHAT I'M SAYING IF YOU CAN'T BUY ANYMORE AND YOU CAN'T LEASE ANYMORE, THEN THE SAME THING HAPPENS TO YOU.
YOU END UP NOT BEING ABLE TO SELL CARS.
WELL THE OTHER SIDE BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT TURNING ANY BANK IN CUZ YOU CAN'T GET NO.
ONE OTHER SIDE IS TOO, WHEN ENTERPRISE ORDERS A VEHICLE, THEY BASE THEIR LEASE QUOTE BASED ON THAT.
WE FIND A CAR SOMEWHERE ELSE THAT THAT INCREASES THAT COST.
UH, AND THEN AND AND LIKE DON'T MENTIONED PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR SPARES.
I DON'T KNOW HOW HOW YOU WANNA ADDRESS THAT, BUT IF YOU'RE A CONSTABLE TWO AND YOU NEED A SPARE VEHICLE, UH, MAYBE THERE'S A POOL OF VEHICLES THAT SPARE.
THE ONLY ONLY WAY THAT I CAN SAY THAT YOU COULD ADDRESS IT IS YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO OWN SO MANY CARS AND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE SPARES.
YOU JUST HAVE TO EAT THE COST OF THE NOT HAVING THEM, THE TRADE IN.
I MEAN THAT'S JUST A SIMPLE PROCESS.
GET 'EM TO THAT MARK AND THEN KINDA USE 'EM AS SPARES WHEN THE OTHER ONE'S IN SERVICE OR WHATEVER AND JUST ROTATE 'EM.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER IT'S PRECINCT 1, 3, 4, ANYBODY USE THAT CAR.
YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME KIND OF, YOU KNOW, SMALL FLEET OF CARS THAT THE POLICE ACTUALLY OWN.
I THINK, I THINK YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A SPARE CAR, YOU SHOULD OWN IT.
I MEAN CUZ IF NOT, THEN YOU JUST HAVE TO LEASE A FEW CARS THAT YOU NOT GOING TO USE.
LEASE A COUPLE MORE THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA USE AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO LEASE.
EACH PRECINCT DOESN'T HAVE TO LEASE TWO MORE CARS.
WE CAN AT LEAST LEASE TWO OR THREE CARS EXTRA FOR THE CONSTABLES.
CAUSE THEY ALL SAY CONSTABLE AND,
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AND, BUT THEY'RE NOT ALL THE SAME.AND I, AND I THINK THEY DON'T USE THEM ALL AND I THINK SOME, I'M SORRY.
I THINK SOME OF THE PEOPLE LIKE LEASE OPTION.
I JUST THINK PERSONALLY WE NEED TO BE DOING THIS THROUGH A DEALER, NOT A CAR RENTAL PLACE BECAUSE IT GIVES YOU MORE OPTIONS.
SO WE, I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE A DEALER THAN WE'RE DEALING, DEALING WITH SOMETHING THAT'S, THERE'S A WAY THE WORK PROGRAM.
IT'S JUST GOTTA BE SOMEBODY'S GOTTA BE FULLY IN CHARGE OF IT ALL THE TIME AND RUN.
AND IT CAN'T, THE FULL-TIME JOB, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT CAN'T BE JUST HALF DONE.
I MEAN, BECAUSE EVERYBODY REALIZES THAT A FIRST RESPONDER NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND AND THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT IS TO HAVE A GOOD FLEET.
YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOUR FLEET'S POOR, EH, WELL HE HATES BEING ON AN EMERGENCY CALL YOU CAR BREAKDOWN, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, COME ON.
LOOKS LIKE THE BOTTOM LINE HERE TO ME IS LAST YEAR OF MILLION FOUR GOING TO MILLION SIX THIS YEAR.
WHERE IS I SEE DOWN HERE AT THE OTHER BOTTOM.
UM, AND THAT'S JUST BASED ON SOME OF THE NEW NUMBERS WE GOT FROM ENTERPRISE.
UM, AND I HAVE TO GET THOSE TO THE AUDITOR.
AND THAT'S JUST REPLACING WHAT IS CURRENTLY ON LEASE THAT'S UP FOR LEASE.
THAT'S NOT ADDING ANY NEW, ANY NEW VEHICLES, UM, LIKE FOR GROWTH OR ANY OF THAT.
AND, AND OF COURSE ANOTHER CONCERN IS IT'S BASED ON 10%.
ON OUR END, WE'RE KIND OF SCARED TO GIVE YOU GUYS NUMBERS BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY SEEING THAT ONE VEHICLE GO FROM 39 TO 48 40.
THAT'S NOT 10% AND THAT'S NOT 10%.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF LIKE, OKAY, WE'RE WE'RE AFRAID TO YOU TOO BIG A NUMBER HERE.
YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YEAH.
WE DON'T KNOW HOW GOOD IT'S GONNA BE.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, IT OKAY.
WE'RE NOT MANAGING THE PROGRAM, THEY'RE MANAGING THE PROGRAM.
SO THERE'S A FEE, A FEE PAID FOR THAT IN MY WHOLE DEAL.
I GUESS IT IS YOUR OPINION ON LEASING, BUT I'M THINKING, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE BUYING A VEHICLE, WE'RE USING IT AND THEY'RE MAKING MONEY.
THAT'S THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH IT, BUT THAT'S JUST ME.
THEY'RE MANAGING THE PROGRAM, NOT US.
WELL IT'S SOMETHING FOR US TO BE WORKING ON.
WHAT IS THAT ALL YOU HAVE US TODAY? THAT'S ALL I HAD.
WAITING ON JUDGE BARDEN IS NEXT.
YOU HAVE HER NUMBER OR DO YOU NO, SEE IF I HAVE IT.
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I GOT MYSELF.I'M READY WHEN YOU OKAY, WE'RE READY.
I GOT, WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T FINISH.
WHEN YOU SEND THOSE INVOICES OVER FOR TYLER, DO YOU, IS THAT SUPPOSED TO BE DIVIDED BETWEEN THE FOURS OR IS THAT JUST YOUR IT'S HOWEVER, IT REALLY SHOULD BE DIVIDED BETWEEN FOUR.
WELL IT'S STILL COMING OUT THE TECHNOLOGY FUND, BUT WE COULD DIVIDE IT BY FOUR.
WE ALREADY PAID THAT SO WE CAN FIX IT.
I JUST, I JUST, I KEPT LOOKING AT IT AND I THOUGHT THIS LOOKS LIKE IT'S FOR FOUR, THE FOUR JPS, NOT JUST HER OFFICE.
IS IT JUST THE THREE OF US EVEN THE LAST TIME DIDN'T WANNA SEE YOU
DIDN'T HE LET ME KNOW HE WAS LEAVING TOWN? YEAH.
WELL IN TWO JUDGE ALLEN, I KNOW THAT YOU REALLY WANTED THE FOUR OF US TO COME SEPARATELY FOR ONCE MM-HMM.
I'M SPEAKING FOR HIM AND NOT JUST MYSELF.
I'M SPEAKING FOR JUDGE JACKSON AND NOT JUST MYSELF.
I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S TOLD ANYBODY THAT, BUT I, I HAVE PROOF
SO I DON'T KNOW IF SHE TOLD YOU THAT OR NOT EITHER.
NO, SHE DIDN'T TELL ME A WHILE AGO WHEN I WAS TALKING TO HER.
LIKE YOU WANTED SPEAKING FOR 1, 2, 3, AND FOUR.
WELL, I WANTED YOU EACH INDIVIDUAL TO COME.
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KNOW YOU DID, BUT THAT'S OKAY.BUT THEY COULD NOT, WHILE WE UNDERSTAND YOUR INTENT AND DON'T WANT TO ANGER YOU OVER WHAT YOU WANT.
AND AS WE'RE GONNA HAVE MORE MEETINGS SO THEY CAN COME LATER.
AND AS USUAL, UM, I'M CLOSEST IN PROXIMITY, SO YES, I RAN OUT TO COME HERE.
SO WHAT, UH, WE HAVE ALL SUBMITTED OUR, OUR BUDGETS, MY BUDGET DID NOT CHANGE AT ALL THAT I THE AS, UH, I DON'T NEED ANY EXTRA MONEY FOR SUPPLIES.
IF WE NEED EQUIPMENT, WE HAVE FUNDS THAT WE CAN DIP INTO FROM TECHNOLOGY FUNDS FOR THAT.
UM, SO I MAKE NO CHANGES WITH REGARD TO THE, THE LIGHT ITEMS, UH, FOR THOSE THINGS.
UM, JUDGE TARNO SENT HER BUDGET IN.
UM, I DON'T THINK IT OFFICE SUPPLIES AN OFFICE SUPPLIES BASICALLY BECAUSE, UM, SHE HAS A TON OF CIVIL STUFF YES.
THAT UNFORTUNATELY SHOULD BE FILED IN PRECINCT FOUR.
BUT HEARTLAND HAS THE SAME ZIP CODE AS FORNY.
SO ALL OF THESE LAWYERS THINK, OH, IT'S FORNY.
UM, WINDMILL FARMS. WINDMILL FARMS. TWO SIX PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
AND THE, THE DISTRICTING OR THE REDISTRICTING, HOWEVER, JUDGE JACKSON DOES UNDERSTAND THE REDISTRICTING BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF EVICTIONS THAT HE HAS NOW HAS TRIPLED.
AND AS THOUGH MINE IS NOT THAT SIGNIFICANT, UH, GATEWAY PINES HAS CERTAINLY KEPT ME IN BUSINESS ON THE EVICTION END, BUT MY REDISTRICTING HAS, HAS CAUSED, UH, SOME MORE EVICTIONS.
BUT, UM, WELL, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO SHARE THE LOVE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE SHARING THE LOVE.
WE AND, AND WE ARE, WE'RE HAPPY TO SHARE BETWEEN THE FOUR WHAT WE CAN.
UM, JUDGE JACKSON HAD PREVIOUSLY CUT HIS BUDGET BY $450 AND THEN HE DECIDED THAT HE NEEDED THAT $450.
AND HE DID TALK WITH, UH, THE AUDITOR ABOUT THAT.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY CHANGE TO HIS INITIAL BUDGET OKAY.
THAT HE, THAT HE NEEDS IS TO ADD THAT 450.
AND I WOULD THINK THERE PROBABLY WON'T BE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
WE'LL JUST TAKE IT OUTTA THE SALARY.
JUST THAT'S WHAT WE'RE AFRAID OF.
NOW, SINCE YOU MENTIONED SALARY, YOU DID IT.
HE MENTIONED TAKING SOMETHING OUT OF OUR SALARIES.
UM, I DID WANNA COME ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND THE OTHER THREE TODAY TO, TO ATTEMPT TO TALK TO YOU, UM, ONCE AGAIN ABOUT THE SALARY DISCREPANCY THAT WAS DONE LAST YEAR.
WE UNDERSTAND WHY, WHY IT WAS, UM, WE WILL PROBABLY NEVER A AGREE, BUT GREG ABBOTT WOULD PENNED A GREAT OPINION THAT SAID THAT WE ARE NOT ELECTED OFFICIALS, ARE NOT EMPLOYEES OF THE COUNTY.
HOWEVER, COMMISSIONER'S COURT SETS OUR SALARIES AND OUR BENEFITS.
UM, I I DON'T BELIEVE THAT ELECTED OFFICIALS SHOULD HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THE, THE WONDERFUL, UM, SALARY STUDY THAT WAS DONE.
I DON'T BELIEVE WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THAT.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT TAC, UM, THEY DO A SALARY STUDY EVERY TWO YEARS, BUT FIGURES ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE FOR, FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS.
UM, I HAVE BEEN JUSTICE OF THE PEACE IN PRECINCT ONE FOR ALMOST 10 YEARS.
AND DURING THAT TIME, UM, YOU ALL THREE HAVE BEEN ON COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND THERE HAS NEVER BEEN ALMOST A $6,000 DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT THE JUSTICE OF THE PEACE AND OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS MAKE.
AND LAST YEAR YOU MAY REMEMBER THAT I WAS ASKED BY THE FORMER COUNTY JUDGE IF I THOUGHT I WAS WORTH MORE THAN THEM.
AND I RESPONDED, I DON'T BELIEVE I'M WORTH MORE, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE I'M WORTH LESS.
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EXPRESS THAT ONCE AGAIN, EVERY ELECTED OFFICIAL IN THIS COUNTY HAS A DIFFERENT JOB.THERE ARE DAYS WE HAVE A DIFFICULT JOB.
I'M SURE DISTRICT CLERK, TREASURER, TAX ASSESSOR, THEY'LL ALL TELL YOU THAT THEIR JOB IS DIFFICULT.
IF IT WASN'T, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO ELECT PEOPLE TO DO THOSE JOBS.
BUT WHILE Y'ALL WERE ALL IN BED OR HAVING YOUR PICNICS OR DOING WHATEVER YOU DID ON MONDAY, I WAS AT THE JAIL FOR TWO HOURS SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
UH, WE BACKED OFF OF JAIL MAGISTRATION.
AND FOR A YEAR Y'ALL DETER, Y'ALL DECIDED TO, THAT YOU WOULD HIRE ASSOCIATES.
THAT LASTED FOR ABOUT A YEAR, THE FIRST CALL THAT I CONTINUED TO STILL GO TO THE JAIL BECAUSE I WAS GETTING CALLS TO DO THAT.
THE JAIL MAGISTRATES, THE ASSOCIATE JUDGES WOULD NOT DO ANY JUVENILE MAGISTRATION AT ALL.
UM, ANYBODY, ANYBODY THAT IS A JUDGE IS A MAGISTRATE JAKEY COULD, YOU COULD CALL JAKEY AT THREE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING FOR A JUVENILE MAG REGISTRATION.
THE THE ONLY THING THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO THAT NO OTHER JUDGE IN THIS COUNTY CAN DO IS INQUEST WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT JUDGE ALLEN CAN DO AN INQUEST, CAN'T DO THE DEATH CERTIFICATE, BUT HE CAN DO THE INQUEST.
SO WHILE WE UNDERSTAND WE HAVE TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE NO MEDICAL EXAMINER, THE JAIL HAS BECOME A REAL BURDEN.
AND IT HAS OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS BECAUSE AS OUR COUNTY HAS GROWN, Y'ALL KNOW THAT THE JAIL IS FULL PRETTY MUCH ALL THE TIME.
I MEAN, WHEN THE SHERIFF CALLED ME AND SAID, WE'RE LOSING JAIL MAGISTRATE JUDGE BLAIR CALLED ME.
I SAID, I WILL TALK TO THE OTHER THREE AND WE WILL GO BACK TO THE JAIL.
AND SO FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS, WE WENT BACK TO THE JAIL.
I KNOW Y'ALL DON'T WANNA HEAR ABOUT IT.
I KNOW YOU CLOSE A DEAF EAR TO IT, BUT SENATE BILL SIX HAS ROCKED THE JAIL MAGISTRATION WORLD IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.
SO FOR THE LAST YEAR, ALMOST YEAR AND A HALF NOW, IT, IT TAKES US THREE TIMES AS LONG AT THE JAIL IS WHAT IT DOES.
SO WHEN YOU MAKE A 6,000 OR ALMOST $6,000 DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT ELECTED OFFICIALS WHO ARE NOT ON CALL, WHO DON'T WORK NIGHTS AND WEEKENDS, AND THEN WE CONTINUE TO WORK NIGHTS AND WEEKENDS AT THE JAIL, SOMETIMES I'M THERE SOMETIMES MORE THAN ONCE A DAY.
WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT SHERIFF? THAT IS CORRECT.
AND YOUR STAFF KNOWS THEY CAN CALL ME AND I WILL GO.
AND SO WHEN THAT THERE'S THAT MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE, IT DOES HURT YOUR FEELINGS.
SO THE MAIN PURPOSE THAT I'M HERE FOR TODAY IS TO ASK Y'ALL TO BE FAIR THIS YEAR WE ARE NOT, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR MORE.
UM, AND THAT'S ALL FOUR OF US FEEL THE SAME WAY.
AND THAT'S WHY THEY ELECTED ME TO COME AND TALK TO YOU.
WELL, I DO KNOW Y'ALL PUT IN A LOT OF EXTRA TIME, A LOT OF EXTRA HOURS.
AND SPEAKING WITH THE SHERIFF, WE TALKED TODAY ABOUT IN, IN THE LAST SCHOOL I WAS AT, THE EXTRA PAPERWORK YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH NOW, IT'S HORRIBLE JUST TO GET THAT INMATE PROCESSED.
AND IT DOESN'T END THERE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T END AT THE JAIL.
BECAUSE WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERY EMERGENCY PROTECTIVE ORDER AND EVERY BOND CONDITION THAT WE SIGNED, WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE OVERSIGHT OF THAT.
AND IF THERE'S AN ISSUE UNTIL THE CASE IS ACTUALLY FILED IN ANOTHER COURT, BECAUSE WE MAGISTRATED THEM.
SO WHEN SOMEONE GOES, WANTS TO GO HOME AND THEIR WIFE WANTS 'EM TO COME HOME AND THEY HAVE AN EMERGENCY PROTECTIVE ORDER, THEY HAVE TO FILE A MOTION TO MODIFY THAT IN OUR COURTS.
AND THEN WE HAVE TO HAVE A HEARING OVER THAT IF WE MODIFY IT, WE HAVE TO DO AN ORDER ALL OVER AGAIN.
SAME THING WITH BOND CONDITIONS.
AND I WORK REAL CLOSE WITH, WITH JOHNNY WHITE ON ALL OF THAT.
UM, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE BOND CONDITIONS
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COME THROUGH MY COURT.AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU ARE THE ONE THAT'S THE CLOSEST TO THE COURTHOUSE IN THE JAIL.
BUT WE ALL HAVE THAT ISSUE IS THAT IT, IT, THE JAIL, THE RESPONSIBILITIES FROM WHAT WE DO AT THE JAIL DOESN'T END AT THE JAIL.
BUT THE, THE LIABILITY I WILL SAY IS THE BIG THING THAT WE'RE SEEING WITHOUT AND STUFF 2048 HOURS AND GETTING STUFF MAGISTRATED A TIMELY MANNER WITHOUT SUIT.
SO THAT'S OUR BIG PROBLEM THAT WE GOT THAT HAS COME ON.
AND, AND WE DO THAT AND, AND WE DO HAVE AN ARRANGEMENT WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THEY ARE VERY DILIGENT ABOUT MAKING SURE, BECAUSE PROBABLE CAUSE HAS TO BE, IF IT'S A, IF IT'S A MISDEMEANOR, PROBABLE CAUSE HAS TO BE DETERMINED BY A JUDGE.
IF IT'S AN ON VIEW ARREST WITHIN 24 HOURS.
WELL SOMETIMES BECAUSE HE'S THE HOLDING HOUSE, THERE MAY BE A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY THAT MAY GET THAT PERSON THERE AT THE 23RD HOUR WHEN WE'VE ALREADY BEEN THERE.
AND THEN THAT'S WHEN WE GET AN ADDITIONAL CALL SAYING THIS PERSON'S GONNA GO PAST HIS 24 HOURS.
WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT WE ARE BLESSED TO HAVE A SHERIFF THAT WHEN THIS ALL HAPPENED, PULLED US ALL TOGETHER AND SAID MY PEOPLE WILL ENTER THEM INITIALLY INTO THE SYSTEM SO THAT THAT DOES SAVE US A LITTLE TIME.
BUT WE HAVE TO BE THE ONES THAT ENTER THE BOND, THE BOND CONDITIONS AND, AND EVERYTHING ON THE FORM THAT GOES TO OCA.
AND WE ALL FOUR ARE, WE DON'T HAVE A CLERK THAT DOES THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO CERTIFY THOSE OURSELVES.
WE ALL FOUR PERSONALLY DO THAT.
RIGHT NOW IF YOU GO TO THE JAIL AND YOU HAVE FIVE OR SIX, THAT'S NOT VERY MUCH.
BUT AS THE WEEK PROGRESSES, THE SHERIFF WILL TELL YOU THAT THE NUMBER OF ARRESTS, SO BY THE END OF THE WEEK I MAY HAVE 25, 30 PEOPLE.
AND SO THAT MAY, THAT MAY CAUSE ADDITIONAL TIME TO DO THAT.
AND AND I'VE JUST COME FROM A SEMINAR ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO IN DENTON AND THAT WAS A COMPLAINT.
A ALL ACROSS IS THE ADDITIONAL TIMES.
AND THERE ARE COUNTIES, I'LL THROW IT BACK OUT THERE, THERE ARE COUNTIES THAT HAVE HIRED JAIL MAGISTRATES, UM, TO COME IN AND, AND DO IT.
THERE'S SOME THAT HAVE HIRED JAIL MAGISTRATES FOR THE WEEKEND.
THEY'RE, THEY'VE BEEN HIT FOR $90,000.
UM, HIRING WEEKEND JAIL MAGISTRATES SO THAT THE JPS DON'T GO ON THE WEEKEND.
WHEN WE DID THAT, IT JUST DIDN'T WORK OUT WELL.
IS THAT WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS? WELL,
HUH? LET ME ASK JUDGE ADAMS, WE WEREN'T MISSING PEOPLE.
JUDGE ADAMS AND I HAVE BEEN MAGISTRATE, I MAGISTRATED AT THE JAIL IN VAN ZANT COUNTY FOR THE FOUR YEARS THAT I WAS A MUNICIPAL JUDGE BEFORE BECOMING THE JUSTICE OF PIECER.
SO BOTH OF US HAVE BEEN MAGISTRATE AT THE JAIL FOR 14 YEARS.
IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO WALK IN, EVEN IF YOU'RE AN ATTORNEY AND AN ASSOCIATE JUDGE HAS TO BE AN ATTORNEY.
BUT EVEN IF YOU'RE AN ATTORNEY, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO WALK IN.
YOU HAVE TO KNOW A LOT THAT HAS TO BE DONE BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST OKAY, YOUR BOND'S THIS AND WALK OUT.
THAT'S, THERE'S A WHOLE LOT MORE TO IT.
THE MENTAL ILLNESS COMES INTO IT.
IF THEY HAVE A MENTAL ILLNESS AND I DO THE 1622 STUFF FOR THE JAIL, I TOOK OVER FROM JUDGE, FROM JUDGE CHITTY THAT RESPONSIBILITY, UH, DEALING WITH SOME OF THE MENTAL ILLNESS ISSUES.
SO THERE'S, YOU KNOW, DO THEY HAVE AN INTELLECTUAL DISABILITY? DO THEY HAVE A MENTAL ILLNESS? IS THERE SOME OTHER REASON? MEDICAL SHERIFF HIMSELF WILL CALL AND SAY, WE'VE GOT THIS PERSON AND THEY'VE GOT A MEDICAL CONDITION.
AND SO THEN I'LL DO WHAT I CAN TO DO THAT.
SO THERE'S A WHOLE LOT TO DO THAT.
THEY HAM IS A, UH, WHATEVER THIS NUMBER IS A ONE 15.
WHAT WAS, WHAT WAS YOU THE NUMBER ON THESE PAY CHARTS? I LOOK AT JUST OLD EVERGREEN STUDY.
WHAT'S WHAT'S THE CURRENT SALARY? RIGHT HERE.
SO WHAT WERE YOU COMPARING? WHAT'S YOUR REQUEST IS WHAT I'M ASKING? I REQUEST YES.
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TO WHO ON THIS LIST? JUST I, OUR REQUEST IS TO, BECAUSE THERE, TO HAVE OUR SALARIES BE OKAY, HERE YOU ARE.HOLD ON, LET ME, DISTRICT CLERK, WHERE IS IT? NO PAGE, NO NOT HIGHLIGHTED.
AND THERE'S, AND THEN THIS IS WHAT HOURS IS YEAH.
I WAS JUST TRYING TO WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO.
CAUSE I WAS TORN YOU AND I'M NOT TRYING TO TAKE ANYTHING FROM HIM.
I'M NOT TRYING TO TAKE NO ANYTHING FROM NO, NO, NO, NO.
WHAT'S A LOT OF EXTRA HOURS JOB? WE ALL DO A DIFFERENT JOB.
HOW MANY HOURS DO YOU THINK YOU'RE PUTTING IN A WEEK
THERE'S A LOT OF TIMES THAT I DON'T GO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LOTS OF TIMES I DON'T GO HOME.
CUZ IF I'VE GOT PEOPLE IN AND OUT, UH, OF MY OFFICE ALL DAY, THEN UM, I WOULD, I CAN'T GET PAPERWORK AND STUFF DONE UNTIL AFTER EVERYBODY LEAVES LAST NIGHT.
I LEFT AT SEVEN O'CLOCK LAST NIGHT.
THAT'S THE REASON I'M ASKING THIS IS IT'S, YOU KNOW, SINCE LAST YEAR WITH THE SALARY INCREASES WE DID, THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLKS OUT THERE THAT DON'T HAVE A CLUE WHAT ANY OF US DO.
AND YOU KNOW, AND I'VE BEEN Y'ALL'S CHAMPION MM-HMM.
I I'VE BEEN VERY BUCKLE ABOUT SO THAT PEOPLE WOULD UNDERSTAND, WELL WE APPRECIATE THAT WHAT WHAT IT WAS.
BUT I GUARANTEE YOU THERE, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE A CLUE WHAT YOUR JOB IS AND THE HOURS IT TAKES TO DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO IN A TIMELY MANNER TO MEET NO, BUT IT'S LEGAL.
IT'S WHAT THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND TOO IS IT'S NOT JUST, IT'S NEVER EIGHT TO FIVE WE'RE JUDGES 24 7.
JUST LIKE JUDGE ALLEN IS A JUDGE 24 7 TOO.
AND I THINK THAT HE DOESN'T REALIZE THAT JUDGE GRAY DOES TOO.
BUT I SIGNED, I SIGNED WARRANTS ELECTRONICALLY.
BUT BECAUSE THEY'RE SO USED TO ME MM-HMM.
I DO COFFMAN'S WARRANTS, I DO COFFMAN, I WARRANTS.
I, BECAUSE I DO 'EM ELECTRONICALLY ALL DAY LONG AND, AND AT NIGHT THEY MAY CALL ME AND SAY MM-HMM.
AND IT MAY BE TWO HOURS LATER BEFORE THEY FINALLY GET IT TO ME.
BUT SO TO SAY, HOW MANY HOURS DO YOU SPEND? IT'S, IT'S NOT ALL DONE THERE.
AND PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
JUST LIKE YOUR JOB, THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND.
YOU GET CALLS DAY AND NIGHT TOO, THAT IT'S NOT JUST COMING TO THE COURT OR IT'S NOT AN EIGHT TO FIVE JOB.
WELL, IT'S GOOD THAT WE LEARNED THAT REAL QUICK, HAVING TO DOING THIS THE WAY WE'RE DOING IT AGAIN, LIKE THIS IS GOOD TO GET THAT INFORMATION OUT TO FOLKS SO THEY, THEY CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTAND BETTER WHAT WE DO AND, AND THE TIME IT TAKES AND, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, JUSTIFYING THE SALARIES, I MEAN, I I THINK YOU'RE MORE THAN JUSTIFIED AND ASKING WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.
IF YOU EQUATED THE HOURS YOU PUT IN TO YOUR PAY, YOU'D BE ABOUT 20 BUCKS AN HOUR MAYBE.
SOME DAYS WE, WE DO WONDER AND, AND TRUST ME, ON MONDAY WHEN I WAS DRIVING TO THE JAIL, I THOUGHT EVERYBODY ELSE IS HAVING WATERMELON
AND I'M GOING TO THE JAIL TO SEE WHAT PRESENTS THAT THAT HAD BEEN LEFT FROM ME.
I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO PASTOR, I DIDN'T GET ANY WATERMELON.
I HAD TO MOW THE PASTOR THAT DAY.
SEE, SO EVERYBODY HAD SOMETHING ELSE THEY WANTED TO DO.
I'M, I'M NOT DISCOUNTING I KNOW WHY IT WAS DONE.
I WAS ACTUALLY TOLD BY ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS, WAIT TILL JAKE'S HERE AND WILL TRY TO STRAIGHTEN IT OUT.
AND SO THAT'S WHY WE ARE WELL JAKE'S HERE NOW WE'RE LAYING DOING STRAIGHTENING IT ALL OUT.
AND, AND I WANT, YOU KNOW, I OWE FOR MY COMMISSIONER, THANK PEOPLE VOTE FOR Y'ALL THAT VOTE FOR US.
NOW I DO APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT ALL OF Y'ALL DO.
I KNOW YOU DO BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU HAVEN'T HAD A CALL YET, HAVE YOU? MM-HMM.
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REALLY APPRECIATES IT AND KNOW THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S JUST THE GOOD NEWS THAT WE CAN ANSWER THE PHONE.I GUESS HE SENT THAT TO ALL OF US.
THAT'S WHEN HE WAS ON HIS PHONE A WHILE AGO.
DON'T HAVE, UH, MR. BOBBY, YOU'RE UP.
YOU KNOW WHAT PAGE WE'RE ON? 45.
THAT'S YOUR MISTAKE FOR THE DAY.
WHAT'S GOING ON? THEY DON'T ASK FOR ANY MONEY.
WELL, SHE'S PRETTIER AND SMELLS BETTER.
WHAT CAN I SAY? MARY, YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO SAVE OFF FOR ME.
Y'ALL DOING OKAY TODAY? MM-HMM.
GOOD UNTIL YOU SHOWED UP, RIGHT? WELL, UH, CAN I GIVE A BRIEF REAL QUICK ON SURE.
SO I JUST WANNA KINDA GIVE YOU GUYS AN UPDATE REAL QUICK.
UM, WE JUST FINISHED DOWN IN KEMP WITH THE, UH, INSURANCE ADJUSTER.
AND TARGET SOLUTIONS WAS THERE AS WELL.
UM, OBVIOUSLY JUDGE ADAM'S OFFICE HAS BURNT PRETTY GOOD, UH, TWO ROOMS NEXT TO IT.
GOT SMOKE DAMAGE FROM THE AIR CONDITIONING RUNNING RIGHT.
UM, THEY'VE ALREADY PRETTY MUCH CLEANED UP ALL THE AIR CONDITIONING DUCTS TODAY.
ALL, I MEAN, THEY HAD 'EM TAKEN APART AND CLEANED THEM, PUT 'EM ALL BACK TOGETHER.
UM, THE INSURANCE ADJUSTER'S PRETTY MUCH SAYING, HEY, TARGET SOLUTIONS, MAKE A LIST OF EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
SHE'LL REVIEW IT AND IF SHE AGREES WITH IT, THEY'LL PROCEED.
UM, JUDGE, UH, ADAMS IS KIND OF WANTING US TO HOLD OFF ON PROCEEDING WITH THAT UNTIL NEXT WEEK.
UM, HE'S ON VACATION THIS WEEK, SO, UM, THE INSURANCE LADY IS GOING TO SEND OVER A, AN INVENTORY SHEET SO THAT HE CAN WRITE DOWN EVERYTHING THAT WAS IN THERE THAT'S DAMAGED OR WHATEVER.
AND IF THERE'S ANY PERSONAL STUFF THAT'S IN THERE THAT THERE'S, SHE SAID THAT OUR INSURANCE POLICY WOULD COVER REPLACING HIS STUFF THAT GOT DAMAGED, WHATNOT.
UH, WELL THE BUILDING WAS BUILT IN 89, SO WE ASSUME THERE IS NO ASBESTOS.
BUT THEY, THEY ARE, UM, YEAH, AFTER 75 ASBESTOS QUIT.
I'M, I'M, I'M AGREEING WITH 'EM.
THERE SHOULD BE BE INSURANCE COMPANY DOES WANT A TEST DONE JUST TO MAKE SURE.
SO THEY WILL BE PERFORMING ASBESTOS TESTING ON THE BUILDING.
UH, SO IT'LL BE THE WHOLE BUILDING.
IT WON'T BE JUST THE AREAS THAT WERE AFFECTED, WHICH WOULD BE GREAT BECAUSE THAT'D BE GOOD FOR OUR FILES.
UM, SO THAT'S MOVING RIGHT ALONG.
THE ROOFS ARE MOVING EXTREMELY WELL.
UM, IT WAS THE BIGGEST, UM, WELL NOT REALLY THE BIGGEST SQUARE FOOTAGE, BUT IT WAS, IT WAS A LOT MORE DIFFICULT BECAUSE OF THE TYPE OF DECKING IT WAS.
UM, THEY'RE OVERHEAD AT THE COURTHOUSE NOW.
UM, THEY WERE WORKING ON THE UPPER LEVEL, THE VERY UPPER LEVEL.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE UPPER LEVEL AND THEN TWO LOWER LEVELS.
THE, THEY'RE WORKING ON THE UPPER LEVEL NOW.
SO, UH, THEY'RE EXPECTING TO BE DONE.
WELL, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE DONE BEFORE 4TH OF JULY.
UH, AND YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, YEAH, I TALKED WITH THEM AT LUNCH.
THEY WERE HOPING THEY'D BE OUTTA THERE BY THE FOURTH.
THEY WERE HAVING A BIG DEAL DOWNTOWN.
SO, UH, CASEY AND I HAVE BOTH MET WITH THEM ABOUT THIS AND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE IT CLEANED UP AND LOOKING EXTREMELY NICE FOR THAT.
ALL THAT STUFF WILL BE MOVED BACK OVER HERE.
UM, THE DIRT, YOU KNOW, I TOLD 'EM WE CAN JUST LEAVE THE DIRT.
CAUSE WHAT THEY DID IS THEY PUT UH, SIX INCHES OF DIRT OVER THE TO, CAUSE THAT'S OVER THERE A WHILE AGO.
SO THAT'S FOR THEIR HEAVY EQUIPMENT TO DRIVE OVER SO IT DOESN'T BREAK A CONCRETE.
UH, HE SAID WE'LL JUST TARP THAT OFF.
I SAID, YEAH, CAUSE NOBODY'S GOING UP THERE.
AND I THINK CASEY ACTUALLY CAME UP WITH THE PLAN.
LET'S JUST, JUST KIND OF BLOCK OFF THE FRONT.
WELL, I ASKED MIKE IF THEY WANTED US TO PUT THIS FENCE BACK UP AND HE SAID MAYBE.
SO THEY WERE FINISHING UP THE, UH, PLANTS AND STUFF.
THEY SHOULD BE DONE IN A DAY OR TWO WITH THAT.
AND WE WILL BE DOING INSPECTION ON THAT.
THEN WE NEED TO, UH, SPRUCE UP OUR, IF THERE'S ANY TALK RASH OR WHATEVER MAKE YES SIR.
AND WE WILL RUN ALL OF OUR SPRINKLER SYSTEMS AND ALL THAT TO MAKE SURE THEY DIDN'T DAMAGE ANY OF IT.
SO THEY'LL, THEY'LL REPAIR 'EM.
THEY ALREADY SAID THEY'LL FIX WHATEVER THEY BREAK, SO.
UM, SO ROOFING, UM, PROBABLY LOOKING AT, FROM WHAT I'M GETTING RIGHT NOW, IT'S PROBABLY MID-JULY, THE
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JUVENILE PROBATION.HE SAID, MAN, THAT'S GONNA GOING TO TAKE A COUPLE, THREE TO FIVE DAYS TO KNOCK IT OUT.
UM, BUT THE OTHER ONES, THE COURTHOUSE NOW IS WHAT'S GONNA BE THE NEXT LONGEST PROJECT.
HE'S THINKING PROBABLY TWO TO THREE MORE WEEKS.
TWO WEEKS ON THE COURTHOUSE AND THEN ANOTHER WEEK OVER THERE.
SO WE SHOULD BE WRAPPING THOSE UP REALLY NICE.
SO ESPECIALLY BEFORE YOU ON THE ROOF, BEFORE YOU GET AWAY FROM THERE.
HE SAID HE PUT THE CHILLER ALREADY BACK ON TOP.
WE SO THEY NEVER TOOK IT DOWN PROBABLY ON THAT.
UM, WELL THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION BECAUSE ME AND JACK HAVE BEEN TALKING, I'VE BEEN ASKING JACK THE SAME THING.
UM, I GUESS THE BALL, I DON'T KNOW, IS, IS THE BALL IN THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S DID, DID WE HIRE THAT COMPANY TO, TO ACTUALLY DO ANY WORK FOR US YET? ARE THEY DOING DRAWINGS OR THEY'RE THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING DRAWINGS FOR THE INSIDE, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY'RE DOING ANYTHING FOR THIS.
HE'S NOT BRINGING HIS AIR CONDITIONING GUY THOUGH.
HE GET WITH JACK AND HAVE THEM CALL AND SEE WHAT THE HOLD UP IS BECAUSE GOTCHA.
THAT HAD A LOT TO DO WITH THE TILLERS.
CUZ IF WE CAN DO THAT OTHER SYSTEM YES.
WE CAN DO CONVENTIONAL WHAT'S RID OF ALL THE WATER.
SURPRISED WHEN THEY TOOK IT DOWN AND PUT THE THING BACK UP? WELL THE GOOD THING IS THEY DIDN'T TAKE IT DOWN.
THEY JUST LIFTED IT UP, WORKED UNDERNEATH IT, AND THEN SET IT RIGHT BACK DOWN.
UM, BUT THERE IS A POSSIBILITY WE COULD SELL THE CHILLER.
IF WE DECIDE TO GET RID OF IT BECAUSE IT'S REALLY, I THINK IT'S LIKE 10 YEARS OLD.
SO, I MEAN IT'S, IT'S STILL IN GOOD SHAPE AND IT'S STILL GOT A LOT OF LIFE LEFT IN IT.
BUT IS IT 10 OR IS IT ONLY EIGHT? WELL, I FEEL LIKE IT WAS REPLACED.
I'M JUST THINKING THAT IT WAS THE YEAR I CAME IN.
OR WE DEALT WITH IT OR, OR IT WAS DOING IT THE YEAR I WAS COMING IN.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S ROUGHLY A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS PIECE OF EQUIPMENT WHEN WE BOUGHT IT NEW AND PUT IT UP THERE.
SO, UM, BUT YEAH, SO ON THAT PART OF IT, WE'RE MOVING RIGHT ALONG AND, AND OH, ALSO ABOUT THE PARKING LOT.
SO I SPOKE TO JACK TODAY ABOUT THE PARKING LOT OVER HERE AT THE, UH, JUSTICE CENTER ABOUT ADDING ON TO IT.
AND I THINK, UH, HE WAS TALKING ABOUT GOING BACK TO GALLAGHER TALKING TO, I THOUGHT WE COULDN'T DO THAT.
I DON'T REMEMBER THE LADY'S NAME.
THE LADY THAT WORKS FOR GALLAGHER.
SO SHE, HE WAS SUPPOSED TO TALK TO HER ABOUT IT.
HERE'S THE PROBLEM WITH THIS IS ORIGINALLY IT WAS THE WAY IT WAS DESIGNED WHEN WE, WHEN THEY NIXED THE PARKING LOT PART OUT OF IT, THE ADDITIONAL PARKING LOT PART OUT OF IT, THEY REDID THE DRAINAGE.
SO THE DRAINAGE NOW IS A PROBLEM TO TRY TO GO BACK AND ADD THE PARKING LOT BACK TO IT BECAUSE OF WHERE THE DRAINS ARE AND HOW THE WATER'S FLOWING TO IT.
UM, BUT, UH, THERE'S SOME UNDERGROUND DRAINAGE THAT'S IN THE WAY NOW.
UM, SO EITHER WAY IF WE, CUZ HE SAID WE COULD USE THAT IS, WHAT'S THE NAME OF THAT COMPANY? MCLAREN? NO, THE, THE COMPANY THAT WE HAD WALKED THROUGH THE COURTHOUSE.
WHATEVER THE NAME OF THAT COMPANY IS.
SO HE SAID WE CAN HAVE THEM COME OUT, DO THE JOCK CONTRACT.
WITH JOB ORDER CONTRACT AND LOOK AT IT.
BUT BEINGS THAT GALLAGHER KNOWS ALL THE STUFF ABOUT THE DRAINAGE AND HOW EVERYTHING'S, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE INVOLVED ANYWAY.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO HE'S LIKE, LET'S JUST TALK TO THEM AND SEE IF WE CAN GET THE BALL ROLLING WITH THEM AND THEN WHAT THEY COME UP WITH.
IF THEY SAY THAT THERE'S NO CHANCE THAT GALLAGHER CAN, GALLAGHER CAN DO IT WITHOUT HAVING TO SEND IT BACK OUT.
WE GOT THE NEW COURT COMING SEPTEMBER THE FIRST.
THE OTHER ONE, UH, WILL BE FIVE COURTS.
WE CAN HANDLE THE PARKING NOW MUST LESS WITH ANOTHER COURT OVER THERE.
THEY DID OPEN UP THE, THE PARKING FOR THE ANNEX OR THE EXPANSION.
THAT'S ANOTHER 86 OR 87 PARKING SPOTS.
YEAH, BUT IT'S GONNA BE FULL COME AUGUST.
SO IF AT ALL POSSIBLE WE NEED TO HAVE ANOTHER ONE IN BY SEPTEMBER ONE WHEN THE NEW COURT STARTS.
I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU'LL BE JACK GIVE WITH THE COMPANY.
AND I PUT ANOTHER CALL IN TODAY TO OUR ARPA GUY.
IF NOT, WE'LL HAVE TO GO TO FUND BALANCE TO, I DON'T WANNA DO THAT.
WE HAVE ANY CONTINGENCY MONEY LEFT.
I MEAN SOMETIMES I ASK, I GOTTA ASK A QUESTION ON LIMIT 86 PARKING PLACES THEY WON'T USE A C PART PLACE.
WELL YOU GOT ADULT PROBATION, BUT ADULT PROBATION THEN YOU CALL PEOPLE.
IN THE EXPANSION, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE THEY WORKING? I THINK HE HAS 14 EMPLOYEES OR 16 EMPLOYEES.
IT WASN'T CAUSE OF THE COURTS.
ADULT PROBATION AND UH, PRETRIAL DIVERSION ARE BOTH IN THERE AS
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WELL.BUT I MEAN, SO IT'S GONNA BE, IT WON'T BE 10 SPOTS OVER THERE TO, THEY'RE ON AVERAGE DAY AND WHEN THEY HAVE A JURY POOL RIGHT NOW THEY'RE CIRCLING BECAUSE THEY CAN'T FIND A PLACE TO PARK AND THEY'RE LEAVING TODAY.
I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING.
I GUESS MY OTHER QUESTION IS, AND I KNOW THAT THE CITY PROBABLY HAVE NOT MARRIED, BUT IF WE DIDN'T PUT PAVEMENT AND WE PUT ROCK IN, THAT WON'T GO FOR ROCK BUT IT WOULD ABSORB THE WATER AND THERE WOULDN'T BE A NEED FOR THE DRAINAGE.
YOU MEAN FROM THE ADDITIONAL PARKING, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? MM-HMM.
THAT'D BE AN ENGINEERING QUESTION TO SEE.
I MEAN THAT WOULD, I MEAN, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? SO WE PUT SOME KIND OF, YOU KNOW, ROCK DOWN THAT DOESN'T HAVE DUST, BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, P GRASS, SOMETHING THAT REALLY DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF, AND THEN IT COULD, THE ABSORPTION RATE CAN GO IN THERE AND IT WOULDN'T BE A FLOOD ISSUE, BUT IT'S ONLY OVERFLOW PARKING AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO HAVE LIGHTS OR ANYTHING.
CAUSE WE DON'T USE IT AT NIGHTTIME.
IT'S ONLY AT NIGHTTIME JURY, YOU KNOW, OVERFLOW PARKING.
MAYBE WE APPROACH IT SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
MAYBE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING SIMPLE GRADING AND TAKING DOWN A FEW INCHES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET ENOUGH BECAUSE THEY BUILT THE DIRT UP A FOOT.
WE GOTTA WE CAN TAKE THAT OUT REAL QUICK.
WE TAKE IT OUT AND IF WE CAN HAUL ROCK IN THERE.
HE CAN, HE CAN TAKE A FOOT OUT THERE.
WHAT I'M JUST SAYING, HE'S YOUNG MAN.
YOU KNOW, THE BIGGEST THING IS, AND EVEN THERE IS A, THERE IS ANOTHER PROCESS IF, BUT, BUT I THINK IT'D WEAR IT DOWN TOO MUCH.
I WAS GONNA SAY CAUSE THEY MAKE THAT GRIDED SQUARE, YOU COULD PUT THE GRIDED SQUARE IN THERE.
AND THE GRASS GROW UP THROUGH IT.
IT'D BE GRASS AND THEY CAN DRIVE THEM.
UH, JUST LIKE THE STUFF THEY ME AND YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.
WHERE THE, THEY'VE GOT TWO OF 'EM OVER THERE NOW.
FOR THE FIRETRUCK OF THE JUSTICE CENTER YEAH.
WHERE THE FIRETRUCK COME THROUGH.
BUT YEARS AGO THEY STARTED THAT WAY BACK IN THE SEVENTIES, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
SO, UH, THAT'S OUR KIND OF THE UPDATE ON THE MAIN HOTSPOTS RIGHT NOW IS THE ROOFING AND THE, THE FIRE THAT WE HAD DOWN THERE.
UM, WHILE WE WERE DOWN IN KEMP, I DID HAVE, UM, TARGET GET ON THE ROOF AND THAT'S GOT SOME PRETTY GOOD HAIL DAMAGE ALL OVER THE ROOF.
SO WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT, I TOLD THEM, I SAID I'M, WE'RE GONNA SEND THEM THE ADDRESSES TO ALL OF OUR FACILITIES AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA DO A COMPLETE INSPECTION ON, ON ALL OF THEM JUST TO SEE WHERE WE'RE AT.
AND THEN, UH, WE'LL GET A LIST BROKE DOWN OF HERE'S STUFF THAT'S, IS TARGET GOING, CHARGES US FOR THAT? NO, SIR.
SO THEY'LL GIVE US A LIST OF, THESE ARE ONES THAT WE NEED TO TAKE LOOK AT WITH YOUR INSURANCE.
AND THESE ARE THE ONES THAT YOU GOT 10 YEARS OR 20 YEARS LEFT OF.
SO, UM, WE'LL JUST ROLL RIGHT INTO THE BUDGET.
HAVE Y'ALL, Y'ALL HAVE MY BUDGET IN FRONT OF YOU? YES, SIR.
SO IF YOU SEE, I PUT NOTES OUT THERE BESIDE, UH, PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING THERE, KIND OF EXPLAINING WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
UM, DID Y'ALLS HAVE THE NOTES ON IT? YEAH.
ON THE BACK SIDE AND THE MAINTENANCE OPERATIONS.
IT LOOKS RIGHT THERE ON THE BACK ON THERE.
SO, UM, ONE THING THAT I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IS THAT MY TITLE BE CHANGED BACK TO THE FACILITIES DIRECTOR.
I HAD ASKED THAT IN THE PAST AND, AND, AND THE COURT AGREED TO IT MM-HMM.
SO I, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING THAT BACK TO THE FACILITIES DIRECTOR POSITION.
UM, THEY HAD THE TITLE UNDER ANOTHER ONE, WHICH WAS THE, UH, FACILITY SUPERVISOR.
UM, WHICH WE STILL WANT TO KEEP THAT FOR CASEY THERE.
FOR OUR ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT, UM, SHE'S WAY MORE THAN OUR ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT.
I WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE HER TITLE TO THE OFFICE MANAGER.
UM, SHE DOES SO MUCH FOR OUR DEPARTMENT AND I THINK, UH, MS. KAREN, HER PEOPLE WOULD KNOW WHAT KIND OF WORK SHE DOES FOR US BECAUSE SHE KEEPS UP WITH ALL OF OUR INVOICING.
SHE, SHE CONTACTS THE, UH, CONTRACTORS.
SHE LINES CONTRACTORS UP FOR US.
UM, SHE JUST DOES WAY MORE THAN WHAT A CLERK DOES.
UH, SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION.
WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT ALL THE TITLE CHANGES.
ADVISOR QUESTIONS CUZ UH, IT'S INCONSISTENT AS WHAT EVERYONE'S WANTING.
AND WE HAVE, UH, EVEN THOUGH SOME OF THE JOBS ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THE OTHERS, SOME
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OF 'EM ARE CHANGE THAT JUST TO GET A RAISE.AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT WE NEED TO BE AS UNIFORM AS POSSIBLE.
UM, ON MY, THE SALARY FOR THE JANITORIAL, IN MY NOTES HERE, YOU'LL SEE THAT IT SAYS ADD TWO ADDITIONAL CUSTODIANS.
UH, ONE, ONE OF 'EM WOULD BE COMING FROM THE, THE PACK, WHICH IS THE, MY SUGGESTION IS THAT FOR THE PACK, UH, THE PET ADOPTION CENTER, SO CURRENTLY AT THE PET ADOPTION CENTER WE'RE PAYING $2,590 AND 14 CENTS.
UH, THAT'S FOR NOT CLEANING AT THE PET ADOPTION CENTER FOR FOUR HOURS.
UH, THAT TOTAL FOR THE YEAR COMES OUT TO $31,081 AND 68 CENTS.
UH, NOT FAR OFF OF WHAT WE CAN HIRE SOMEBODY FULL TIME FOR.
SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS, IS THAT WE CANCEL THIS CONTRACT WITH AHI, WHICH IS AN OUTSOURCED JANITORIAL SERVICE COMPANY.
WE HIRE THIS PERSON FULL TIME AND I'LL HAVE AN EXTRA PERSON FOR NIGHTS FOR THE NIGHT SHIFT.
BUT OUR NIGHT SHIFT CREW CAN CLEAN THERE.
SO OUR NIGHT SHIFT WOULD CLEAN THE PET ADOPTION CENTER, THE JUSTICE CENTER, AND THE EXPANSION.
UM, SO THAT'S VERY LITTLE MONEY THERE COMING OUT OF OUR BUDGET TO COVER THIS.
CAUSE THIS IS ALREADY BEING PAID FOR OUT OF THE AHI CONTRACT.
ON THAT CONTRACT, DO WE, IS THERE AN OUT? YES SIR.
IS IT 30 DAYS? I THINK IT'S 30 DAYS.
YOU GOT EXTRA QUESTION? JUST A QUESTION.
SO, SO THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT, AND THEN I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD ONE MORE CUSTODIAN FOR TRAVEL.
SO I'LL QUICKLY KIND OF GIVE Y'ALL A BRIEF ON.
SO LUPE IS CLEANING FORNEY AND TERRELL, THE TERRELL SUB COURTHOUSE, THE FORNEY SUB COURTHOUSE AND COMMISSIONER BARBER'S OFFICE AREA.
SO, UM, THE SUB COURTHOUSE ARE THE, THE SHERIFF'S SUBSTATION IS COMING ON BOARD, UH, PRETTY QUICK.
I THINK IT'LL PROBABLY BE OPEN BEFORE OUR NEXT BUDGET OPENS.
UM, AND SHE'S GONNA HAVE TO DO THAT AS WELL.
SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING, THEY OPEN BY THE END OF AUGUST.
THE WAY THEY'RE PUSHING, THEY'RE PUSHING HARD.
GREG SAYS THAT HE THINKS THAT BY THE END OF AUGUST THEY'LL BE DONE.
I DONE THEN I THOUGHT THAT'S THAT'S A FEW MONTHS OUT.
YEAH, HE'S, HE SAID THEY'RE, THEY'RE LOOKING BY THE END OF AUGUST.
UM, HE SAID MID-SEPTEMBER THE LATEST IS WHAT HE WAS TELLING ME.
BUT SO CURRENTLY WE JUST, AS Y'ALL KNOW, I DON'T HAVE TO, Y'ALL CAN EXPLAIN IT, BUT Y'ALL KNOW HOW UNDERSTAFFED THIS DEPARTMENT IS AND WE HAVE, WE'VE MANAGED TO GET BY, BUT I HAVE WORKED THESE LADIES SO HARD AND WITH OVERTIME, WITH COMP TIME AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT THEY NEEDED JUST TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.
SO MY SUGGESTION IS, IS WE GIVE THEM ONE EXTRA PERSON FOR THE DRIVE SO WE CAN SEPARATE OUT, UM, I THINK WE HAD IT BROKE DOWN TO 36,000 SQUARE FEET A PIECE IS WHAT THEY'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.
UM, I KNOW IT TAKES ME LONGER THAN THAT TO CLEAN MY HOUSE IN A DAY, UH, WITH ME AND MY WIFE.
SO, I MEAN, YOU GOT ONE PERSON TRYING TO CLEAN 36,000 SQUARE FEET.
UM, SO IF I CAN SHRINK THAT DOWN TO A, A MANAGEABLE NUMBER, I THINK THAT WE'LL GET BETTER SERVICE.
YOU'LL GET BETTER CLEANING ANY TOTAL CUSTODIANS YOU OR NEED.
UM, SO I'M LOOKING AT GETTING TWO TWO ADDITIONAL.
AND ONE WILL BE SHELTER AND ONE'S GOING TO HELP THE DURING THE DAY, CORRECT? YES.
SO HAVE THE POSITIONS, BUT THEY'RE VACANT.
I DON'T HAVE THE POSITIONS CURRENTLY.
THEN YOU HAD TWO ADDITIONAL, UH, FACILITIES.
SO IF, IF YOU JUST KIND OF WANNA LOOK AT PERSONNEL.
I DID, I DID ADD A SPREADSHEET ONTO THERE.
CASEY, CAN YOU PULL THOSE FOR ME PLEASE? I'M LOOKING ON THIS SHEET HERE.
WHERE? I MEAN THIS ONE, THAT ONE.
HOW'D YOU GET ONE THAT BIG? I TOLD DAN ANYBODY NEED LARGE PRINT
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OH YEAH.SO THAT SHEET KINDA SHOWS YOU WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
UM, I'M LOOKING AT, I WANT TO, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TWO FACILITY TECH LEVEL ONES, UM, ONE LAWN CARE TECH AND TWO CUSTODIANS.
UM, BUT WELL, I DON'T THINK SO.
I MEAN WE HAVE, WE HAVE, I DON'T HAVE TO EXPLAIN IT.
I JUST WANT YOU GUYS TO KNOW THAT THIS, I WOULDN'T BE COMING TO YOU.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I FEEL LIKE WE CAN USE TO GET BY.
I'M COMING FOR WHAT I THINK WE COULD USE TO GET BY TO DO, TO GET CAUGHT UP.
YOU KNOW? CAUSE WE'RE RUNNING SO FAR BEHIND SCHEDULE FROM ALL THE, THE STUFF THAT WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN SHARE WITH THEM.
WHAT HUNT LAWN CARE TOLD YOU THE OTHER DAY WHEN YOU CALLED HIM OUT AND GAVE ESTIMATE OVER TO JUSTICE CENTER, YOU SHARED WITH, I CAN GUESS ON THIS ONE.
WHAT DID THEY GUY TELL YOU YOU NEEDED OVER THERE? OH, JUST OVER THERE.
SO TO TO, TO MAINTAIN THE JUSTICE CENTER, IT WOULD BE FOUR GUYS FIVE DAYS A WEEK.
WELL THEY PLANTED ALL KINDS OF PLANTS AND MM-HMM.
I TOLD BOBBY MOST OF THE HALF THE PLANTS YOU SAY ARE PROBABLY DEAD THAT THEY PLANTED IF NOT MORE.
UH, OF COURSE THERE'S NO WARRANTY ON 'EM.
BUT ANYWAY, THEY'RE GUARANTEED.
THEY'D LIVE A YEAR, PULL 'EM UP, PLANT GRASS.
THEY HAD ALL THESE KIND OF PLANTS.
I WOULD HAVE AT THE JUSTICE CENTER, PUT IT IN GRASS.
AND AT THE ENTRYWAYS IF YOU WANT.
IT'S EASY BUT NOT, I MEAN IT WAS NO, JUST SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD PUT SOME COLOR OUT THERE.
SO I DID, I DID, YOU KNOW, WE DID A LITTLE RESEARCH AND WE DID, WE JUST LOOKED AT ROCKWALL COUNTY OVER THERE.
UM, ROCKWELL COUNTY HAS 391 EMPLOYEES WITH, UH, 23 OF THOSE BEING ADULT PROBATION.
UM, THE, THEY HAVE SEVEN FACILITIES.
UH, WE HAVE 22 THAT WE ACTUALLY TAKE CARE OF.
UH, THEY HAVE 11 MAINTENANCE PEOPLE AND CUSTODIANS THAT INCLUDES THEIR MAINTENANCE AND CUSTODIAN PEOPLE.
WE HAVE 15 HERE, BUT WE'RE TAKING CARE OF 22 BUILDINGS.
UM, THE SALARY RANGES, THEY'RE RIGHT IN PRETTY MUCH IN LINE WITH WHERE WE'RE AT.
BUT JUST KIND OF JUST GIVING YOU AN UPDATE ON, ON ALL THAT.
I'M TRYING TO JUST SO YOU CAN, BUT I READ SOMEWHERE WHERE IT, IT, AND JUST CAUSE YOU READ IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT MAKES IT RIGHT.
BUT WE TALKED ABOUT SQUARE FOOTAGE, JUST LIKE ARMY PERSONNEL.
YOU HAVE 11 MEN, YOU CAN'T TAKE CARE OF MORE THAN 10.
MOST PEOPLE CAN'T TAKE MANAGE MORE THAN SEVEN.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THAT'S JUST WHAT IT IS.
THAT'S WHY YOU BREAK DOWN EVERYTHING.
AND THEY HAVE SQUARE FOOTAGE ON MAINTENANCE AND YOUR PEOPLE RIGHT.
I'M NOT GONNA, I'M NOT GONNA BRING UP THE NUMBER THAT WAS MM-HMM.
NO, I MEAN I'M JUST, I JUST WANT YOU GUYS TO KNOW THAT WE'VE, WE'VE SPENT, CASEY AND I SPENT A LOT OF TIME GOING THROUGH ALL OF OUR STUFF TO COME UP WITH THESE, THESE NEEDS.
SO THE, THE THE TWO FACILITIES TECHS, THE ONE LAWN CARE, UH, ADDITIONAL TECH AND THE TWO CUSTODIANS IS WHAT WE TRULY NEED, YOU KNOW, TO BE ABLE TO FUNCTION ON A DAILY BASIS.
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YES SIR.AND SO YOU NEED $7,600 FOR MEDICAL SUPPLIES FOR THE EXPANSION.
THAT'S WITH ALL THE FIRST AID KITS LIKE WE HAVE AT THE JUSTICE CENTER.
THAT'S JUST FOR THE, UH, THE 7,600 IS FOR THE AEDS FOR THE EXPANSION.
AND THE, UH, THAT'S ACTUALLY JUST FOR THE EXPANSION.
SO I APOLOGIZE CUZ THERE'S ONLY FOUR OF THEM.
THAT'S $7,600 IS FOR FOUR AEDS.
YOU KNOW, STEVE WHO WE, AND HE'S OBVIOUSLY GETTING THEM AT A VERY GOOD PLACE.
WE'RE KEEPING 'EM ALL THE SAME NARRATIVE WHERE WE ARE.
SO HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
SO WE DEFINITELY WILL NEED USE THEM ALL.
AND THEY'RE 18, ALMOST $1,900 A PIECE.
WE'LL NEED TWO MORE FOR THE EXPANSION AND PROBABLY AT LEAST ONE FOR THE SUBSTATION.
SO, UM, AND THE PET ADOPTION CENTER DOES NOT HAVE ONE CURRENTLY.
SO WE WOULD WANT TO ADD ONE THERE.
UM, JANITORIAL SUPPLIES, UM, THAT'S EATING MY LUNCH UP RIGHT NOW.
SO THE STUFF THAT IS SPECKED IN AT THE JUSTICE CENTER.
SO WHEN I, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED WORKING HERE, TRIFOLD TOWELS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE, HAVE THE FOLDS ON THEM AND YOU JUST PULL 'EM OUT.
WELL THOSE THINGS ARE SUPER EXPENSIVE.
HOW MANY BATHROOMS ARE THERE? 27.
27 BATHROOMS AT THE JUSTICE CENTER IS THOSE FOLD TOWELS THAT ARE IN THERE.
UM, WE DID MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO THE TOILET PAPER.
SO WE WERE ABLE TO USE THE SAME TOILET PAPER WE WERE USING.
SO WE RETROFITTED 'EM TO MAKE 'EM WHERE THEY WOULD USE OUR TOILET PAPER.
SO WHERE ARE OUR, OUR JANITORIAL BUDGET AND MS. KAREN CAN SPEAK TO THIS IS I'VE BEEN, I'VE BEEN PASSING, MOVING MONEY FROM ONE ACCOUNT TO THE JANITORIAL BUDGET TO KEEP PAYING FOR ALL THIS, THESE SUPPLIES.
SO THAT'S WHY YOU'LL SEE ON THE JANITORIAL, UH, SUPPLIES BUDGET THAT WE BUMPED IT TO 65 FROM 45 BECAUSE, UH, AND I'M STILL, WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT MANY RESTROOMS OR BREAK AREAS PRIOR.
I MEAN, I MEAN, NOWHERE CLOSE.
WE HAD FIVE BATHROOMS AT THE WHOLE COURTHOUSE AND WE GOT 27 NOW
AND THEN, AND THEN YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT THE EXPANSION COMING ON TOP OF THAT AND THE SUBSTATION COMING ON THAT'S YES.
SO JUST, HEY, YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING MAKE, IT'S NOT GONNA MAKE NEXT YEAR.
YOU GOT ONE PERSON OVER THERE JUST REFILLING TOILET PAPER, PAPER TOWEL ALL DAY.
HOW MANY MORE BATHROOMS IN THE, IN THE, UH, EXPANSION? HOW MANY ABOUT KNOW? I KNOW THERE'S 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 8, 8, 27.
I MEAN A THIRD, A THIRD AND, AND IN THE, AND IN THE, YEAH.
WELL THEY GOT SHOWERS AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF IN THERE TOO.
SO JUST SO Y'ALL KNOW THAT, THAT'S OKAY.
YEAH, MAYBE I'M, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
I'M THINKING YOU'RE, I'M THINKING YOU'RE GONNA BE LIGHT.
I THINK YOU OUGHT TO COUNT 'EM AND TAKE AN AVERAGE OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING THERE AND THEN COUNT ALL THE BATHROOMS AND PUT IT ON THAT SAME AVERAGE.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? WE CAN DO THAT.
THAT MAKE THAT, THAT MIGHT MAKE SENSE FOR YOU.
I MEAN FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY BECAUSE THAT, SO HALF YEAR WE'VE ALREADY SPENT 37,000, IS THAT CORRECT SIR? FOR HALF A YEAR WE'VE SPENT 37,000.
NO, WE'VE SPENT ALMOST, WELL I'M TALKING MARCH.
BUT RIGHT NOW, I MEAN I GOT $2,000 LEFT TO LAST ME TILL YOU'RE NOT GONNA MAKE IT.
SO I'M, I'M GONNA HAVE TO MOVE MORE MONEY OVER FROM ANOTHER ACCOUNT TO TELL EVERYBODY TO BRING HER ALL TOILET PAPER, BRING WEEK, BRING, BRING YOU ON TOILET PAPER.
WHAT ELSE? SO ON OUR TOOLS AND CONSTRUCTION SUPPLIES, WE UP, YOU KNOW, WE INCREASED IT LIKE $88,000 BECAUSE WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS WE WOULD LIKE TO OUTFIT THE UH, F TWO 50 WITH A UTILITY BED, UH, VERSUS GETTING RID OF IT.
I DON'T WANNA TURN IT BACK IN.
I THINK THAT WE CAN JUST PUT A UTILITY BID ON IT AND THEN THAT MAKES IT FOR A SERVICE VEHICLE.
UM, GAS AND OIL, WE UPPED THAT TO UH, $4,000 BECAUSE OF THE ADDITIONAL MOWING.
I MEAN WE'RE BURNING THROUGH FUEL ON THAT AS WELL.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT I'VE ASKED TO REMOVE THE 10,000 FROM THE JANITORIAL CONTRACT.
IT WAS JANITORIAL SERVICES SO WE COULD OUT OUTSOURCE TO THE JANITORIAL, WHICH WE DON'T, WE DON'T NEED THAT.
UM, I, THE REPAIRS TO COUNTY FACILITIES, WE'VE ASKED TO GO BACK TO THE $400,000 BUDGET.
UM, I'M HISTORICAL DATA SHOWS THAT THAT NUMBER WORKS
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FOR US FOR MAINTENANCE, YOU KNOW, MAINTAINING.UM, YOU KNOW, ONE THING PEOPLE ASK IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, HOW COULD THESE BUILDINGS BE IN THIS KINDA SHAPE WITH THEIR OLD BUILDINGS? AND IF YOU TAKE 400,000 AND YOU DIVIDE IT BY, YOU KNOW, 18 BUILDINGS, YOU COME UP WITH LESS THAN, WHAT IS THAT $11,000 A BUILDING.
I DON'T ALWAYS WAITING ON YOU TO SPIT IT OUT.
WELL NOW I GOTTA DO THE MATH CUZ IT'S GONNA DRIVE ME CRAZY.
RIGHT? SO I MEAN, THERE'S NOT A LOT YOU CAN REMODEL WITH 22,000.
I MEAN THE MAINTENANCE UPKEEP ON STUFF.
SO THE 400,000 IS LIKE A BARE MINIMUM TO TAKE CARE OF OUR CURRENT BUILDINGS.
I MEAN, AND THE GOOD THING IS, IS THAT WE DO HAVE ATTIC STOCK THAT WE HAVE WHEN THEY BUILT THE BUILDING.
SO WE JUST PULL IT OUTTA THERE AND REPLACE IT FORM 'EM ABOUT THE TREASURE WE'RE GONNA PUT BEHIND THE JUSTICE.
SO I, I WAS SPEAKING TO JUDGE THE OTHER DAY OR YESTERDAY OR TODAY, I CAN'T REMEMBER.
SO GALLAGHER DOES HAVE QUITE A BIT OF, THEY CALL IT ATTIC STOCK, RIGHT? SO WHEN YOU'RE DONE BUILDING, THEY HAVE ALL THESE LEFTOVER ITEMS FROM CEILING TILES TO LIGHTS TO DOOR HANDLES TO DOOR CLOSERS, DOORS, I MEAN, SO, UM, THEY'VE GOT IT ALL STORED IN A CONTAINER, A SHIPPING CONTAINER RIGHT NOW.
AND WE, WE DON'T HAVE NOWHERE TO PUT IT.
THEY WANT US TO GET IT OUT OF THEIR SHIPPING CONTAINER.
SO MY SUGGESTION WAS, IS UH, TALKING TO JUDGE WAS THAT COUNTY BUYS SHIPPING CONTAINER AND WE CAN PUT IT OUT BACK BEHIND THE JUSTICE CENTER RATHER THAN MOVING IT SOMEWHERE ELSE OFFSITE.
BECAUSE YOU KNOW, AS WELL AS I KNOW WHEN YOU GO TO PICK IT UP, IT GETS DAMAGED AND EVERY TIME YOU'RE BACK AND FORTH WITH SOMETHING, THERE'S OPPORTUNITY FOR BE DAMAGED COMING OUT OF THE BACK OF THE JUSTICE CENTER.
YOU GO OUT THERE, YOU, YOU GRAB WHAT YOU NEED, YOU WALK RIGHT BACK IN, YOU FIX IT.
SO MY SUGGESTION IS WE BUY A STORAGE CONTAINER, WE PUT IT OUT BEHIND, UM, OBVIOUSLY I'LL HAVE TO GET IT APPROVED BY BRIAN BEAVERS AS WELL BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S GONNA WANT IT SET IN A CERTAIN LOCATION, BUT I WILL DEFINITELY TALK TO HIM ABOUT IT.
BUT THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION IS WE PUT IT OUT BEHIND THE JUSTICE CENTER, IT'S OUT SIGHT, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC DOESN'T SEE IT.
BUT THAT WOULD ACTUALLY GIVE US A PLACE TO STORE ALL THAT.
WELL THERE'S THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF SUPPLIES.
THOUSANDS THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED AT SOME POINT IN TIME.
SO THAT MAKES SENSE TO KEEP IT.
IF WE GO TO BUY IT AGAIN, IT'S GONNA BE UP 10, 20, 40%.
AND THOSE CEILING TILES THAT ARE IN THAT COURTHOUSE, THEY'RE NOT OFF THE SHELF.
YOU KNOW, CAN'T, WE CAN'T RUN TO HOME DEPOT AND GRAB 'EM AND COME BACK AND PUT 'EM IN.
SO WHY DIDN'T THEY MAKE STANDARD SIGN? WHY DIDN'T THEY, YOU COULD CHARGE FOR REMEMBER WE WEREN'T INVOLVED IN THAT NEITHER WAS HE? YOU KNOW HOW ARCHITECTS WORK
THAT'S, THAT WAS WHAT I, I ASKED HOW TO DO.
BUT HE KEPT SAYING WE WERE DOING THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
YOU'LL JUST HAVE TO PUT THAT THING ON COURT.
YOU GOT AC HEATING AT, UH, WENT UP 20,000.
UM, I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU GUYS A QUICK UPDATE ON THAT TOO SINCE WE'RE OKAY.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CHILLERS THAT WERE INSTALLED AT THE JUSTICE CENTER.
CASEY CAN SPEAK TO THIS PRETTY WELL AS, AS WELL.
WE WERE BOTH THERE FOR TRAINING.
UM, THE FANS, HOW MANY FANS ARE ON THERE? CASEY? 10? YES.
ON EACH ONE THERE'S 10 FANS, ELECTRIC FANS ON SET ON TOP OF THESE THINGS.
UH, APPARENTLY THEY'RE THE OLDER REV FANS AND THEY HAVE LOTS OF PROBLEMS WITH 'EM.
AND ONE FAN GOES OUT, IT'S ABOUT $8,000 TO REPLACE IT.
SO THE GUY THAT WAS OUT GIVING THE TRAINING CLASS TO US, HE ACTUALLY PULLED, PULLED ONE OF 'EM, LOOKED AT 'EM AND HE'S LIKE, THESE AREN'T THE NEW ONES.
THESE ARE THE ONES THAT WE'VE ALWAYS HAD A PROBLEM WITH.
SO JUST GIVING YOU GUYS AN UPDATE THAT'S IF ONE FAN GOES OUT, IT'S $8,000 FOR THE FAN AND THEN WHATEVER THEY CHARGE, BUY TOP THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.
NO, WE DON'T BUY THE SAME ONE THOUGH.
RIGHT? NO, WE WOULD BUY THE UPDATED ONE.
BUT THESE WERE BOUGHT IN THAT CHANGE PERIOD.
SO WHEN THEY WERE SWITCHING OVER OLD TO NEW AND WHEN WE BOUGHT THESE, THEY HAD THE OLD FANS ON THEM AND BY THE TIME WE TOOK POSSESSION OF THEM, IT WAS ALREADY A YEAR, ALMOST A YEAR LATER.
AND NOW WE'RE DIDN'T KNOW WE'RE STUCK.
SO, YOU KNOW, TO CHANGE ONE FAN OUT IT'S GONNA BE ABOUT $10,000 AND THERE'S 20 OF THEM.
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OKAY.YOU NEED TO MENTION THE, UH, GOING FROM UH, 10 TO 25 HORSEPOWER PUMPS.
UM, SO ON OUR CHILLED WATER SYSTEM AT THE JUSTICE CENTER, IT WAS BROUGHT TO, UH, OUR ATTENTION WHEN WE WERE DOING OUR WALKTHROUGH AND OUR TRAINING ORIGINALLY THE, BY THE INSTALLERS, THEY TOLD US THAT THESE, THESE CHILLED WATER PUMPS WERE TOO SMALL.
SO IT'S GETTING HOTTER OUTSIDE.
IT'S GETTING HOTTER OUTSIDE RIGHT NOW.
AND OUR CHILLER PUMPS, BOTH OF 'EM ARE RUNNING AT THE SAME TIME AND WE'RE AT 85%.
SO I'VE BEEN BATTLING THIS SINCE THE DAY WHEN I GOT PUT ON IT.
AND WITH JUDGE'S HELP, WE'VE GOT IT RESOLVED.
THEY BOUGHT, UH, THE ARCHITECT? WELL NO, THE ME P COMPANY, THE MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL AND PLUMBING COMPANY, THEY PURCHASED NEW PUMPS.
WHAT WE HAD, WE WENT TO 25, SO WE GOT THE CADILLACS COMING MM-HMM.
WE'RE CLOSING THE COURTHOUSE AT FOUR CAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO TURN EVERYTHING OFF AT THREE 30 AND GIVES EVERYONE 30 MINUTES TO GET OUT BEFORE IT GETS THE HOT.
FOUR STARTS GETTING SUPER HOT.
WELL, SINCE WE'RE ON THAT SUBJECT, UM, WE HAD A MEMORIAL WEEKEND.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IT TOOK OUT ON OUR SIDE, AND THE ONLY THING THAT WE'RE AWARE OF AT THIS POINT IS THE, UH, THE FIRE PANEL.
ONE OF OUR FIRE PANELS WAS ZAPPED.
I MEAN IT BURNED, IT COMPLETELY BURNED IT AND IT WAS 12,680 SOMETHING DOLLARS TO REPLACE THE PANEL.
SO DURING THIS SHUTDOWN THAT GALLAGHER'S DOING TO CHANGE THOSE PUMPS OUT, SINCE WE'RE ALL GONNA HAVE THE POWER SHUT OFF, THAT'S WHEN THEY'RE GONNA COME OUT AND CHANGE THOSE OUT BECAUSE THE TRANSFORMER, THAT THING IS CONNECTED STRAIGHT TO THE TRANSFORMER AND THE BREAKERS FOR THAT ARE INSIDE THE PANEL, BUT THE PANEL FRIED.
SO WE GOTTA REPLACE THE WHOLE PANEL.
SO ENCORE'S COMING OUT TO DISCONNECT AND KILL THAT SO THAT WE CAN CHANGE THAT OUT AT THE SAME TIME THEY'RE CHANGING THE PUMPS OUT.
JUST SO Y'ALL KNOW AND THAT'S LOT GOING ON THAT'S ON THE FIRE PANEL.
SO WHAT HAPPENS IF WE HAVE A FIRE IN THE MEETING TABLET? WELL, ON THE, OUR FIRE PANEL, I TAKE THAT BACK.
IS THAT WHAT IT IS? THE RISER PANEL? IT'S THE FIRE RISER WATER FLOW PANEL IS WHAT'S SO CURRENTLY THE VALVE IS ON SO IF THE SPRINKLERS GO OFF, IT'S GOING TO SEND WATER.
WE'RE STILL GOOD, BUT WHAT WE HAD TO DO IS WE HAD TO PUT A CHAIN ON IT SO PEOPLE COULDN'T TURN THAT VALVE OFF SINCE THAT WAS THAT THAT BOARD WAS BURNED UP CUZ MANUALLY YOU COULD TURN IT OFF ON THIS BOARD.
SO SO YOU HAD SHUT THE VALVE OFF.
SO NOW IT, IT'S CHAIN OPEN WHERE NOBODY CAN TURN IT OFF.
SO I DO HAVE ON HERE, UH, 30,000 FOR THE ROOF REPLACEMENT AT THE PRECINCT FOUR SUB COURTHOUSE.
UH, WE DISCUSSED CHANGING THAT OUT TO METAL AND VERSUS UH, VERSUS SHINGLES.
UM, WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT? WELL AND OUR THEORY IS, IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT HELL BREAKING OUR SHINGLES.
WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT REPLACING THIS ROOF FOR ANOTHER 30 YEARS.
ARE THERE ALREADY TWO LAYERS UP THERE? JUST ONE LAYER? THERE'S TWO ON THERE ALREADY.
UM, SO I KIND OF LED THIS MEETING OFF WITH THAT.
TARGET GOT ON THAT ROOF AND THERE'S HELL DAMAGE ALL OVER IT.
THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT IF OUR INSURANCE COMPANY PAYS FOR THAT, OBVIOUSLY WE GOT A $10,000 DEDUCTIBLE.
BUT IF WE CAN GET THE INSURANCE COMPANY TO PAY FOR THAT BECAUSE OF THE HELL DAMAGE, WE MAY TRY TO SQUEEZE THAT IN THIS BUDGET.
UM, OUR UNIFORM BUDGET, WE LOOKED AT RAISING IT, UH, ADDITIONAL 1500 FOR OUR EMPLOYEES THAT, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT EXPANDING TO UM, HAVE Y'ALL SEEN OUR JANITORIAL STAFF? YEAH.
YOU KNOW, WE CHANGED THOSE TO THE SCRUB TOPS AND SCRUB BOTTOMS. MM-HMM.
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE Y'ALL LIKE IT.
UH, THE PEST CONTROL WE'RE AT, WE'RE INCREASING $2,000 BECAUSE WE WENT FROM 3,600 SQUARE, 36,000 SQUARE FEET TO 98,000 SQUARE FEET FOR THE JUSTICE CENTER.
AND THEN THERE'S PLUS EXPANSION.
HOW MUCH IS THE EXPANSION SQUARE FOOTAGE WISE? I DON'T KNOW.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE SHERIFF'S SUBSTATION AS WELL.
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THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THOSE ADDITIONAL NUMBERS THERE.AND THEN YOU SEE ON HERE, I SAID UH, MOVE TO REPAIRS TO COUNTY PROPERTY.
WHICH WAS THE 10,000 THAT WAS IN MISCELLANEOUS.
JUST MOVE IT THAT TO HELP COVER THE FLOOR FLOOR THAT THEY NEED TO KNOW THAT, THAT YOU HAD THE BIG WINDOWS IN FRONT TINTED YES.
CAUSE THEY COULDN'T STAY IN THERE.
AND THEY COULDN'T SEE THE SCREENS ON THE MACHINES AS PEOPLE WERE YEAH.
BEING SCREENED BECAUSE THE SUNBLOCK IT OUT.
AND OUR SHERIFF DEPUTIES WERE LIKE IN FISHBOWLS.
CAUSE YOU JUST SEE 'EM NOW, YOU CAN'T SEE 'EM.
CAUSE WE DIDN'T GET OUR BULLETPROOF GLASS.
THAT SHOULD BEEN IN THE GLASS WHEN THEY BOUGHT.
AND I DO WANNA SAY THAT, UH, SHERIFF BEAVERS WENT IN HALVES ON THAT WITH ME.
WHAT ELSE YOU GOT BOBBY? UH, THAT'S IT.
AND WE ARE THROUGH FOR THE DAY.
WE DON'T HAVE, NATHAN'S NOT COMING.
NATHAN IS SICK AND HE'S GOT AN EYE INFECTION THAT'S CONTAGIOUS.
ALL RIGHT, WE'RE THROUGH OVER TODAY THEN WE CANCEL.
BOBBY, DID YOU GET ME A CONTRACTOR MEETING THE GARBAGE ADUR THE MEETING, THE GARBAGE YOU SAID YOU WERE WAITING FOR, YOU MADE THE, TO THE JURY.