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THREE OF US.WE WANNA START YOUR DAY OFF RIGHT, SHERIFF? WELL, GOOD MORNING, LIKE THE SHERIFF.
WELCOME EVERYONE HERE THIS MORNING TO OUR BUDGET HEARING.
IT'S FRIDAY MORNING, JUNE THE 23RD.
[1. To discuss the FY23-24 annual budget with department heads. ]
WE'RE GONNA START UP FIRST WITH OUR DISTRICT ATTORNEY.I WAS TOLD THAT I WAS DOING ROBBERY BY BRINGING COOKIES.
SEE, I'LL BEAT YOU TOO, KAREN.
AND MICHELLE, I GOT HER TO COME WITH ME BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S, REALIZE HOW MUCH MICHELLE STANDAL DOES AND HELPS WITH MANAGING THE BUDGET AS FAR AS MAKING SURE ON WHERE WE ARE DURING THE YEAR.
I, KAREN THE AUDITOR KNOWS THAT SO WE BROUGHT FOLDERS.
I ALREADY SENT Y'ALL A LETTER.
AND LET, DO Y'ALL NEED THE, DO Y'ALL NEED A FOLDER BACK OF EVERYTHING OR Y'ALL GOT THE LETTER WITH YOU? I GOT THE LETTER.
YEAH, I HAVE, THEY'RE ATTACHED.
ARE YOU ON THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY OR COLLECTIONS? LET'S START WITH DISTRICT ATTORNEY CUZ THAT'S THE ONE THAT SUMS PEOPLE.
I'VE GOT A FILE FOLDER IF ANYBODY DIDN'T HAVE EVERYTHING CUZ YOU'VE GOT, YOU'VE GOT YOUR LINE ITEM.
I THINK WE JUST NEEDED TO START WITH WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE TOUGHEST TOPIC, WHICH IS SALARY.
SO IF YOU NEEDED ANY OF THAT INFORMATION WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE PUT TOGETHER INFORMATION TO HELP YOU WITH THE DIFFERENT POSITIONS.
I KNOW THERE WAS ONE PIECE OF INFORMATION, I THINK IT WAS S***T THAT ASKED WANTING TO KNOW, OR MAYBE IT WAS MIKE HUNT, KNOWING THE NAMES OF THE PEOPLE AND WHAT POSITIONS THEY WERE.
I I BELIEVE Y'ALL WANTED THAT FROM THE LAST TIME.
AND I DON'T KNOW THINK YOU HAVE THAT INCLUDED.
DO YOU GUYS WANT THAT? CUZ WE PROVIDED THAT INFORMATION.
WE HAVE THAT DIDN'T THIS? MM-HMM.
I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T HAVE PUT THAT OUT THERE.
BUT I CAN GET THAT TO, I HAVE IT TODAY IF YOU WANNA SEE WHO WE'RE TALKING.
MICHELLE, CAN YOU COME UP HERE AND PULL THAT, JUST THAT SHEET OUT FOR THEM? CUZ THEY'VE ALREADY GOT ALL THAT OTHER INFORMATION AS WE'RE LOOKING AT.
CUZ THAT'S, I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO SEND THAT OUT OUT.
BUT YOU CAN KEEP IT AMONG YOUR CONFIDENTIAL PAPERS AND STUFF.
SO WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION, THERE'S NO, NOTHING THAT'S A SECRET ABOUT EVERYBODY IS COMPLAINING AS FAR AS UM, WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR SALARIES AND RETENTION OF, UH, ASSISTANT DISTRICT ATTORNEYS AND I, I'VE HAD THIS PROBLEM PROBABLY FOR THE FIRST TIME THAT I'VE EVER HAD.
WE WOULD POST UP SOMETHING EVEN WITH A DECREASE WITH OUR SALARIES BEING LESS THAN DALLAS.
WE WOULD POST, SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE 10 YEARS FOR THE LAST EIGHT YEARS AND WE WOULD GET, IF WE HAD ONE POSTING FOR A POSITION, WE WOULD HAVE A 10 TO ONE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THAT FILLED.
AND THAT'S JUST NOT HAPPENING.
AND I THINK WE FELL BEHIND PROBABLY A COUPLE YEARS AGO AND THAT'S WHY I PUT OUR, YOU CAN JUST HAND IT TO HIM.
THAT'S WHY I PUT OUR COMPETITORS REALLY AND LEFT OUT DALLAS CUZ WE CAN'T MATCH DALLAS.
SO OUR COMPETITORS WOULD BE ELLIS ON HIS WAY.
I USE KOMEL EVEN THOUGH IT'S DOWN TO THE SOUTH, OBVIOUSLY OUTSIDE OF AUSTIN, HAYES COUNTY, WILLIAMSON'S ALSO AROUND AUSTIN.
BUT THEY'RE SIMILAR SIZES AND WE ARE AT LEAST 15 TO 20% DOWN.
AND I'M NOT ASKING FOR THAT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S A HUGE JUMP.
BUT IN THESE PROFESSIONAL POSITIONS, WE CAN GO THROUGH IT IF YOU WANT TO KNOW THE WHY, BUT MOST OF THE TIME WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM NUMBER OF ALL THE POSITIONS, I'M NOT DOING THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AND I'M NOT ASKING FOR MONEY FOR THE PARALEGALS THAT GOT MONEY FROM THE STUDY AND THE EVERGREEN STUDY BECAUSE THEY GOT A BUMP.
THE PEOPLE THAT I'M LOOKING AT ARE THE ATTORNEYS THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE SPECTRUM.
I'M ALSO LOOKING AT SOME OF THE TOP SECRETARIES BECAUSE I KEEP LOSING THEM.
AND IT NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE TO EITHER TO THE COURTS WITH PARITY, WITH COURT COORDINATOR PAY.
I CAN'T, HAVING BEEN A FORMER JUDGE.
AND THAT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY IF YOU WANNA BE A JUDGE.
I THINK YOU, THAT'S GREAT IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANNA DO.
AND IF YOU WANNA WORK FOR A JUDGE, I CAN'T COMPETE WITH THAT.
BUT I, WHAT WE'VE ALWAYS DONE, AND THAT'S WHAT THE SHERIFF AND I ARE ALWAYS AGREED TO, IS AT LEAST WE WOULDN'T BE FIGHTING FOR THAT SAME POSITION.
SO WE'VE ALWAYS ADOPTED THE SAME PAY FOR THE SAME RANK.
WE NEED TO DO THAT IN MY OFFICE.
IF THEY CHOOSE TO WANNA GO WORK, THAT'S GREAT.
IF THEY WANNA GO WORK FOR A JUDGE.
BUT IT'S NOT BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA MAKE MORE MONEY OVER THERE FOR, THEY'RE DOING SIMILAR WORK.
I I DON'T THINK ANY OF THE COORDINATORS WOULD DISPUTE THAT THE COURT PARALEGAL'S WORK IS ANY DIFFERENT.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WOULD SAY
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THAT MICHELLE IS MUCH DIFFERENT.THEY, THEY MIGHT THAN LIKE A DEPUTY CLERK IN A OFFICE.
I WOULD NEVER PUT HER ON THE SAME LEVEL AS AN ELECTED.
SO THAT'S WHY THOSE NUMBERS ARE WHERE THEY ARE.
AND BEFORE WE MOVE TO THE OTHER AREAS, I'M WILLING, YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT THAT WILL JUST HAVE US EQUAL WITH SOME OF THE SURROUNDING COUNTIES.
I DIDN'T CHANGE THE CHART, BUT I DID FIND OUT JUST FROM TALKING, UM, TO UM, ANNE OVER IN ELLIS THAT THE CRIMINAL CHIEF EVEN MAKES MORE THAN THAT.
THEY MAKE, THEY MAKE MORE THAN THAT NUMBER.
SO THE IDEA OF WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE HEARD ABOUT OUTTA THE LEGISLATURE, IF ANY EVERYBODY'S BEEN PAYING ATTENTION IS THE PARODY PAY THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT GIVING, WHICH IS HAPPENING.
THE RURAL PROSECUTOR PAY THAT IS FOR US TO BE ON PARITY WOULD SAY OUR URBAN NEIGHBOR LIKE A DALLAS.
SO YOU'RE, YOU MIGHT WOULD ASK, WELL YOU'RE GONNA GET PARITY PAY.
WE'RE NOT BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY BEHIND THE, THE ADJOINING COUNTIES.
SO WE WOULD JUST CONTINUE TO BE BEHIND AND THE PARITY PAY MAY OF COURSE AFTER TWO YEARS GO AWAY.
SO THE WHOLE IDEA FOR THAT, CUZ I HAPPEN TO GO DOWN AND TESTIFY ON THAT BILL A LOT WAS FOR US, THE SURROUNDINGS COUNTIES TO COMPETE WITH THE URBAN CENTERS WHO ARE CLEARLY NOT GETTING THE MONEY.
IF YOU'RE OVER, IF YOU'RE A DALLAS COUNTY, YOU WON'T GET THE MONEY.
IF YOU'RE CALLING, YOU WON'T GET THE MONEY.
IF YOU'RE A DENTON, YOU WON'T GET THE MONEY.
SO WE'RE, I'M TRYING TO GET US TO OUR COUNTIES THAT ARE SIMILAR AND THEN I THINK ALL OF THE OTHER DAS FROM TALKING TO 'EM ARE GONNA ACTUALLY TRY TO START TAKING THOSE EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE GONE TO DALLAS.
OR IF YOU'RE DOWN IN KMEL, MAYBE THAT YOU'RE IN TRAVIS BACK TO A SUBURBAN OFFICE BECAUSE YOU'LL BE ON PAR WITH THAT.
BUT THIS JUST GETS US TO PARITY WITH A SIMILAR SITUATED COUNTY.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE SALARY THING.
THE OTHER IS JUST THE, THE SURE EXPENSES THAT HAPPEN WHEN YOU HAVE A GROWING OFFICE AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS WE HAD PROJECTED, I THINK MICHELLE WHAT ABOUT 20% MORE.
AND SO THAT'S HOW WE CAME UP WITH THE NUMBER AT THE END.
SO, AND THAT'S DUE TO THE NEW COURT THAT'S COMING.
SOME OF IT'S DUE TO THE NEW COURT.
BUT YOU KNOW, JUDGE, I WANNA BE HONEST, WE DIDN'T EVEN ADDRESS THAT POSITION IN THIS SINCE THOSE ARE NEW POSITIONS.
THEY, IT HAS HISTORICALLY, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GUYS WANNA DO IT, COME OUT OF A, A NEW POSITION USUALLY IS, UNLESS WE, WE KNOW IT'S COMING NOW.
SO WE COULD CREATE THAT IN THIS POSITION.
BUT IF YOU HAD HAD A NEW POSITION, I DON'T KNOW IF IT COMES OUTTA THE GENERAL FUND OR WHAT, ON A NEW POSITION, A NEW POSITION BEING THE FOUR 89TH.
THAT WHOLE, THE WHOLE MAKEUP OF THE FOUR 89TH.
SO IT'S NOT, I DON'T THINK IT'S MINE YET.
BUT THE BUT THE SALARIES WOULD GO THAT AND WE COULD CONTR WE COULD FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT'S GONNA BE.
I DIDN'T KNOW HOW MUCH, HOW MANY MORE STAFF YOU MIGHT NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THE THE NEW COURT.
THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND I CAN TELL YOU THE, THE, THE ANSWER IS FOUR.
BUT THEN WE HAVE, WE HAVE A WHOLE NOTHER SUBJECT TO ATON TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT.
WE, OUR SOLUTION MIGHT BE PART-TIME, WHICH ISN'T EVEN THE BUDGET BUT ONE TO GIVE YOU THAT, WHICH IS FOR EVERY COURT YOU ALWAYS HAVE TWO ATTORNEYS.
WE DON'T HAVE THREE BECAUSE THEY'RE GENERAL JURISDICTION.
DALLAS WITH A CRIMINAL COURT YOU'D HAVE THREE OR A COURT THAT THAT'S ALL THEY DID.
BECAUSE THE IDEA IS THE JUDGE IS GONNA DO A CIVIL AND A CRIMINAL.
SO YOU JUST, YOU NEED TWO PROSECUTORS, YOU NEED AN INVESTIGATOR SIGNED AND YOU NEED A SUPPORT STAFF PERSON.
SO IT'S FOUR OUT OF OUR OFFICE.
SO YOU NEED TWO PROSECUTORS AND TWO AND AND ONE INVESTIGATOR AND YOU'RE GONNA NEED ONE PARALEGAL.
THOSE ARE FELONY POSITIONS AND NOT MISDEMEANOR.
SO THERE'S A DIFFERENCE IN PAY.
AND MICHELLE, WE'VE HAD UM, SOME MISCOMMUNICATION BETWEEN YOU AND US.
WE ACCOUNT FOR THE BASE SALARY OF THE PARALEGALS SEPARATE AND THEIR CERTIFICATION PAY, IT'S STILL INCLUDED IN THE TOTAL BUDGET AND THEY GET TAX ON IT, THEY GET LONGEVITY ON IT AND STUFF.
BUT WE NEED TO KEEP THAT STRAIGHT BECAUSE THEN IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE MAKING MORE THAN SOMEBODY ELSE BECAUSE OF THAT CERTIFICATION OUT.
AND THEN YOU ARE INCLUDED IT AND THEN IT GETS US MIXED UP.
SO WE'RE COVERED MORE THAN WHAT WE SHOULD.
AND YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING KAREN, THAT EVEN THOUGH WE OFFER THAT, THERE
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ARE A FEW PEOPLE THAT HAVE NEVER DONE THE CERTIFICATES.I SAID IT'S YOUR RIGHT TO KEEP IT SEPARATE CUZ THERE ARE A FEW PEOPLE THAT WON'T, THAT WON'T STUDY TO GET THEIR CERTIFICATE AND THEY DON'T GET THE MONEY.
AND THEY WON'T GET THAT CERTIFIC.
WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR OFFICE SUPPLIES, YOU KNOW, IN IN I WILL SAY ONE OF THE GOOD THINGS THAT HAPPENED, CUZ THERE'S NOT A LOT, I I WOULD SAY THAT OVER TIME IS IT'S ASK FOR THE FUNDING THAT YOU REALLY NEED.
DON'T DO LIKE GOVERNMENT ASK FOR IT TO PAD IT SO YOUR BUDGET WON'T GO DOWN.
SO WE, WE HAVE GOTTEN, IT MAY HAVE GROWN, BUT IF YOU'LL SEE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY LEFT EXCEPT FOR MY SALARY LINE ITEM WHERE I CAN'T FILL THE POSITIONS BECAUSE WE'RE ACTUALLY USING ALL OF OUR OFFICE SUPPLIES.
WE'RE ACTUALLY USING THE MONEY FOR THE BOOKS, THE MILEAGE, THE TRAINING.
SO WE ARE, WE ARE ABLE TO PROJECT, PROBABLY OUR BIGGEST EXPENDITURE TOO IS BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE ANOTHER COURT THAT WE ARE JUST IS COMPUTERS TO GET EVERYBODY SET UP IN THE IT.
THE OTHER ISSUE WE SEE IS ALL OF THE TRIAL PREP AND THE MONEY WE'RE SPENDING FOR EXPERTS IN TRIAL PREP BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO TRIAL A LOT.
SO THOSE ARE EXPENDITURES BECAUSE YOU HAVE MORE PEOPLE, YOU HAVE MORE TRIALS.
SO THAT'S WHY WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, YOU'VE GOT THE SALARY BUDGET INCREASE, BUT THEN YOU'VE GOT THE OVERALL BUDGET INCREASE FOR THE DIFFERENT NEEDS OF THE OFFICE.
WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? CAUSE I WANNA TALK ABOUT THE COMPUTERS A LITTLE BIT, THE SOFTWARE, UM, OTHER THAN, AND THEN WE'LL GET TO COLLECTION PART TIME.
ONE THING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND I Y'ALL DON'T HAVE THIS NUMBER, IS IT'S SOMETHING WE PULLED, WE LOOKED, I THINK YOU GAVE ME THAT WE LOOKED AT WHERE WE ARE AS FAR AS FILING CASES BECAUSE WE COME IN HERE, WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT HOW MANY CASES, AND I DON'T THINK YOU GUYS HAD THIS SHERIFF YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED TOO.
I DUNNO HOW MANY CASES I SEE A BUNCH OF CASES GOING NOWHERE FROM LESS.
I THINK SHE'S GOT TWO OR THREE.
SHE'LL GIVE YOU ONE THINK ACTUALLY ON THE BOOKS.
CAN YOU BUY THAT OUTTA THE LAW LIBRARY FUND? EVERY COUNTY JUDGE ASKED THAT ANSWER MUST BE NO.
UM, YOU ENLIGHTEN ME AWAY ALL THE TIME.
UM, SOMETIMES THE WAY TO DO THAT, SAY THERE'S AN ITEM THAT ALL LAWYERS NEED TO USE AND WE DON'T NEED OUR OWN.
FOR EXAMPLE, A PATTERN JURY CHARGE, EVERYBODY NEEDS TO HAVE A PATTERN, JURY CHARGE BOOK.
AND I SAY THAT QUITE LOOSELY BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE MANY BOOKS, BUT IT'S ALL ONLINE AS FAR AS THE CASES.
REMEMBER THAT'S GETTING WHERE THAT'S NO LONGER NECESSARY.
WHERE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, REMEMBER EVERY LAW OFFICER TO HAVE ALL THESE ROWS AND ROWS OF BOOKS.
WELL ALL THAT'S ONLINE, BUT EVERY, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, EVERY LAWYER NEEDS THEIR HANDBOOK TO GO INTO COURT WITH, WHICH MEANS THEY NEED THEIR PENAL CODE AND THEY NEED THEIR RULES OF EVIDENCE.
AND THAT SHOULD BE IN A BOOK BECAUSE THEY NEED TO BE ABLE SOMEBODY TO JACK'S HEARSAY.
YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO PULL TO THE RULES OF EVIDENCE AND KNOW THAT'S AN 800 OH, EXACT EXCEPTION.
SO YOU CAN LOOK AT 8 0 3 AND LOOK AT IT BECAUSE THEY'RE YOUNG LAWYERS AND THEY DON'T KNOW THE LAW AND THEY'RE LEARNING IT.
IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU USE IN FREQUENTLY THAT THE COURTS MIGHT USE, THEY COULD ORDER BOOKS FOR US.
SO THERE IS SOME SAVINGS, LIKE A PATTERN JURY CHARGE.
THE COURTS NEED TO KNOW WHAT TO CHARGE PEOPLE.
AND I MEAN IN WHEN THEY GET TO THE END, WHAT IS THAT CHARGE GONNA LOOK LIKE? SO SOME OF THE BIG VOLUMES WE MIGHT SUGGEST TO THE COURT.
YOU COULD, YOU GUYS, ARE Y'ALL INTERESTED IN THIS BOOK OR THAT BOOK THAT WE COULD ALL USE? AND WE KIND OF DO THAT WITH THEM.
THAT WAY WE CAN GET AROUND AND, AND IT'S IN OUR LIBRARY AND IT'S A BOOK THAT WE CAN USE.
JUDGE, COULD I SAY SOMETHING ABOUT BOOKS? SURE.
SO, UM, THIS YEAR THE BUDGET IS 12,000 FOR BOOKS BECAUSE THIS IS A LEGISLATIVE YEAR.
SO THEY WILL ALL BE UPDATED AND THEN, AND THAT'S EVERY OTHER YEAR.
SO NEXT YEAR WE WOULDN'T USE THAT FULL AMOUNT CAUSE SO IT'S EVERY OTHER YEAR THAT WE HAVE THE LARGE BOOK.
SURE, YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD ADD IN BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S LIKE OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE NOT MEETING SO IT'S ONLY NEW ATTORNEYS THAT NEED A BOOK.
YOU KNOW, WE TRY TO STOP 'EM WHEN THEY LEAVE, TAKE OUR BOOKS BACK CUZ THOSE ARE COUNTY BOOKS.
BUT SOMETIMES THEY GET IN THERE WITH THE TAPE AND STAPLERS THAT ARE COUNTY PROPERTY AND WE HAVE TO BUY NEW BOOKS.
BUT THOSE ARE COUNTY BOOKS THAT THEY'RE USING.
AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT IN BIG URBAN PLACES, LIKE IN DALLAS WHEN I WAS A KID, YOU HAD TO BUY YOUR OWN BOOKS.
THEY WEREN'T JUST PLENTIFUL BECAUSE THEY'RE EXPENSIVE.
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THOSE BOOKS ARE WHAT, LIKE 60, $80 MM-HMM.SO IT DEPENDS ON, AND THAT'S YOUR UPDATE, BUT YOU GOTTA HAVE A TOOL TO KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
UM, THE REASON I HANDED YOU THAT WE DIDN'T EVEN DO THE ASK IS WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THE CASES, WE CAN SEE THE TRAJECTORY FROM 20 20, 20 21, 20 22 OF WHERE THE CASES JUST KEEP INCHING UP ABOUT TWO 50 MORE OVERALL.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE ASTERISK OF WHERE WE PUT WHAT'S HAPPENED WITH US AND WE MADE THAT NOTATION IS IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE DOING LESS CASES.
THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER, WE HAVE ABOUT 250 CASES THAT WE HAVEN'T ENTERED.
THAT MEANS Y'ALL BROUGHT OVER A FILE AND IT'S SITTING AROUND AND WE'RE 30 DAYS INSTEAD OF IMMEDIATELY BEING ABLE TO GET IT DONE EVERY WEEK.
THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS JUST SURE, STAFFING SOME OF US, WE GOT, WE NEVER HAVE BEEN THIS FAR BEHIND.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS THE MOVE BECAUSE WE HAVE, WE WEREN'T WORKING AT THAT TIME AND WE LOOKED AT IT AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
WE HAVE THREE AND A HALF GIRLS TO INTAKE ALL THE CASES IN THE COUNTY.
WHEN YOU BREAK THAT NUMBER DOWN WITH THE NUMBERS WE HAVE, YOU'RE ASKING HER TO ENTER FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT 99 CASES A WEEK.
THAT'S A LOT OF, THAT'S A LOT OF CASE ENTRY.
I'M JUST TELLING YOU, I I I COULDN'T KEEP UP WITH THAT BECAUSE 99 CASES A WEEK, THAT'S OVER A FIVE DAY PERIOD.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE RUNNING BACK AND FORTH ON ALL THE TIME IS THEY'RE ACCRUING COMP TO STAY UP.
SO SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO BALANCE AND GO, WELL DO YOU NEED ANOTHER EMPLOYEE? AND WE DON'T EVER LIKE TO JUST ASK FOR ANOTHER, IT'S NOT IN THIS BUDGET.
WE WERE THINKING MAYBE WE COULD DO A PART-TIME.
SOMEBODY COULD COME IN AND PICK UP THE SLACK.
THAT'S NOT BENEFITS TO THE COUNTY RETIREMENT.
WE TALKED ABOUT IT PROBABLY BE ABOUT 22,000.
MAYBE THERE'S SOMEBODY THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN THINK OF THE TYPICAL PERSON THAT WANTS TO PUT IN A FEW HOURS TO HELP PICK UP THE SLACK.
BUT TO GET CAUGHT UP, WE BROKE IT DOWN.
WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE A SATURDAY, EVERYBODY ALL HANDS ON DECK, COME UP HERE AND GET THESE CASES ENTERED SO WE CAN BE ON PARITY.
I MEAN, HAVING YOUR CASE SLOWED DOWN, SLOWS UP THE COURTS AND IT SLOWS UP JUSTICE AND YOU, YOU CAN'T HAVE THAT.
AND THAT'S JUST, WE CAN'T KEEP DOING THIS.
THEN YOU'RE RIGHT BACK EITHER PAYING OVERTIME OR COMP TIME AND THEN WHEN THEY TAKE OFF, THEN YOU'RE BEHIND AGAIN.
AND THAT'S, WE'RE IN THAT, WE ARE IN A VICIOUS CYCLE WITH THAT RIGHT NOW.
SO WE, BUT WE KNOW WE, WE SEE THIS COMING.
I WOULD, I WOULD PROJECT BASED ON WHERE WE ARE THAT WE REALLY ARE ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT OF CASES AS LAST YEAR.
BUT BECAUSE OF WHAT WE KNOW HAPPENS IN THE SEASON THAT WE WILL PROBABLY LAST YEAR WAS A BIG TICK UP, WE'LL PROBABLY END UP ABOUT 4,200 CASES UNLESS THE END OF THE YEAR GETS CRAZIER THAN I CAN ANTICIPATE.
SO THIS YEAR AND LAST YEAR'S THE SAME.
WE'VE HAD TO DO SOME TRAINING.
IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN REAL INTERESTING TO SEE THE FLOW.
AND THAT EASES ME INTO ONE OF OUR PROBLEMS WAS THE SOFTWARE THAT I PICKED.
SO I HAVE TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR HIS DOCU LOGISTICS.
AND IT WAS NOT EVERYTHING THEY PROMISED, IT DOES NOT WORK.
THE SHERIFFS WILL TELL YOU IF YOU ASK THEM THAT THEIR OFFICE DECIDED TO NOT, TO NOT TO GO WITH IT.
UM, IT, IT, IT JUST WASN'T WHAT THEY PROMISED.
WE ARE PIVOTING AND LOOKING AT ANOTHER, I'VE ALREADY GIVEN THAT.
UM, AND, AND LET ME SAY WHAT IT'S, IT'S A CASE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.
IT'S A CASE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM FOR THE OFFICE.
EVERYBODY OBVIOUSLY IT'S DOES E-FILING.
SO IF THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT HAS A CASE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO SHERIFF'S OFFICE, SORRY, HAS A CASE THAT THEY'RE SENDING TO US, THEN THAT'S GONNA GO THROUGH A CASE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.
THE ONE WE HAD SELECTED AND USED FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS COULD NOT KEEP UP WITH THE DIGITAL TECHNOLOGY.
WHO WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW IS A COMPANY CALLED VIX.
THEIR MAIN, THEIR BIGGEST CLAIM TO FAME IS THEY CAN DO DIGITAL TECHNOLOGY.
THEY HAVE THE CONTRACT FOR THE CAC, WHICH THEIR WHOLE BUSINESS IS ABOUT, UH, TAKING VIDEOS OF THE CHILDREN AS THEY COME IN AND THEY MANAGE ALL OF THE VIDEOS AND ALL THE DIGITAL EVIDENCE FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS CAC.
SO I THINK THEY HAVE A SYSTEM IN THEIR CASE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM THAT CAN HANDLE A BIG DROP OF THE DIGITAL EVIDENCE.
CUZ WE NOT ONLY WILL OBVIOUSLY HAVE THAT, BUT YOU HAVE ALL THE DASH CAMS OFFICER'S, CAMERA CAMERAS, YOU MIGHT PULL OFF AS YOU'RE INVESTIGATING A CASE.
AND I THINK THEY CAN HANDLE IT.
AND I'VE, I'VE HAD NATHAN IN ON ALL THE CONVERSATIONS FIXING TO BRING TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
IT OVERALL IT'S GOING TO BE, AND IT'S GONNA, THAT'LL BE A PART OF NATHAN'S BUDGET.
I'LL PROBABLY TALK TO THE JUDGE
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ABOUT IT PARTICULARLY, THEY WANNA OFFER US A THREE MONTH TRIAL SO WE CAN SAY THEY REALLY WANT OUR BUSINESS.JULY, AUGUST, SEPTEMBER, I'LL PROBABLY TALK TO JUDGE ABOUT IT.
IF HE'S GOOD WITH IT, I'LL PROBABLY SIGN OFF ON THAT AND DO THAT TRIAL WITH ANTICIPATING THAT WE'LL HAVE A CONTRACT.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS THEY'LL PROBABLY START UP CAUSE THEY HAVE TO MIGRATE THE OLD CASES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE.
IT'LL BE ANNUALLY ABOUT 10,000 MORE THAT FIRST YEAR THAN THE OTHER FOLKS.
BUT I THINK IT'S GONNA BE WORTH IT.
AND THAT MONEY COMES OUTTA NATHAN'S BUDGET AND WE, WE, WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME NEGOTIATING WITH THEM.
I MEAN FIRST THE NUMBER WAS CRAZY HIGH AND WE JUST KEPT GOING BACK AND FORTH AND WE GOT TO SOMETHING REALISTIC.
BUT I THINK, WELL THERE'S SOME OTHER COUNTIES USING THIS SAME SYSTEM.
THAT YOU REFERRED TO THAT THEY SAY, YEAH, IT WORKED.
I DID MORE DUE DILIGENCE THAN JUST BELIEVING PEOPLE BEFORE.
WE WENT TO NAVARRO COUNTY, THEY USE IT.
MUCH SMALLER OPERATION THOUGH.
SO WE TOOK A FIELD TRIP OVER THERE.
I THINK MICHELLE WENT WITH THE GIRLS.
THEY DON'T EVEN USE EVERYTHING.
THE BIG THING, THE BIG, WHAT WE REALLY LIKE IS IF THEY'RE ABLE, AND THEY'RE, THEY DIDN'T PROMISE THIS, BUT ABLE TO USE THE ODYSSEY TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF TRANSFERENCE THERE WITH THE, WITH THE SOFTWARE.
THAT'S WHAT THEY KEEP SAYING, CORRECT.
SO NOBODY'S EVER BEEN ABLE TO PROMISE THAT.
SO, BUT WE'LL KNOW THE THING IS THEY'RE REALLY SAYING IS NO COST TRIAL.
BUT WHAT THEY'RE, WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS SHOW US THAT YOU REALLY HAVE STOPPED YOUR CONTRACT WITH VIX, WHICH WE DID.
AND THEN LET'S, THIS IS A GOOD FAITH TRIAL AND IF IT WORKS, YOU'RE GONNA GO WITH US.
SO YOU'RE NOT IN NEGOTIATION WITH ANOTHER COMPANY, ANOTHER CASE MANAGEMENT COMPANY.
WELL THAT SOUNDS PRETTY FAIR DEAL.
SO WE WILL HAVE WORKED OUT ALL THE KINKS BEFORE WE SPEND OUR REAL MONEY AND GO LIVE IN OCTOBER.
BECAUSE I TOLD 'EM, I SAID, WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY.
OUR BUDGET'S DON'T START THEN.
AND THEY'RE VERY REALISTIC ABOUT IT.
SO THEY SAID, OKAY, WELL WE'LL BE FREE.
WELL, I MEAN, I LIKE THE WORD FREE.
WELL THEY GIVE YOU THREE MONTHS TO WORK OUT ANY KINKS IF IT WORKS.
IF IT DOESN'T, WE CAN MAKE ADJUSTMENTS, WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO.
SO JUST WANTED Y'ALL TO KNOW THAT I, I WILL VISIT WITH YOU ABOUT THAT AS FAR AS JUST SIGNING OFF ON THAT TO GET THEIR FREE TRIAL.
BUT THEIR FREE TRIAL IS ANTICIPATING A FULL CONTRACT, WHICH I THINK THE NUMBER AND NATHAN DID AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF WORK WITH OUR OFFICE AND WITH THEM AND BROUGHT IN ONE OF HIS SPECIALISTS ABOUT TERMS THAT I, I HAVE HEARD BUT NOT UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THEY SAID THIS COLD STORAGE FEE.
WELL, I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S A REASONABLE AMOUNT FOR A COLD STORAGE FEE.
YOU THINK, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW.
AND SO WHEN WE WENT BACK AND FORTH, WE REALIZED THAT WAS INFLATED.
SO WE CAME DOWN WITH A NUMBER, WHICH WAS REALLY GOOD.
SO ORIGINALLY IT WAS LIKE 104,000 TO START THEM INITIALLY.
AND WE WERE DOWN ABOUT 20,000 PLUS THE COST.
SO THE FIRST YEAR CONTRACT WILL BE ABOUT 50,000.
AND GOING FORWARD, IT'LL BE AN ANNUAL OF 30.
IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MANY USERS WE PUT ON IT, IT DOESN'T GO UP.
SO EVERYBODY IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT THAT WANTS TO GET ON AND WE'RE GONNA FOLD THEM IN AND THIS THREE MONTH TRIAL, THEN WE'LL ADD THE OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES.
NO, WHEN YOU GET BIT BY SOMEBODY THAT PROMISED, THEN YOU LEARN.
YOU GOTTA GO, YOU GOTTA TALK TO PEOPLE.
YOU GOTTA ACTUALLY GO AND SEE HOW IT WORKS.
IT, IT WAS A LOT FASTER THAN I ANTICIPATED.
UH, LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I THINK YOU GUYS MIGHT HAVE A QUESTION A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, THE, UH, TASK FORCE.
WE'RE DOING THE MONIES FOR THE TASK FORCE AND WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT WHEN THAT ROLLS IN, REMEMBER WE ABSORBED ALL THOSE COSTS.
AT THIS POINT, THERE'S REALLY NOT MUCH WE'RE ASKING YOU GUYS FOR ON THAT TASK FORCE THEY HAVE PROVIDED SO FAR.
UM, THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'VE PROVIDED AN ANALYST ALREADY FOR US.
THEY'RE GONNA COME ON WITH AN INVESTIGATOR FOR ME.
UH, THEY'RE ALSO GONNA, UH, FOR THAT POSITION, WHO'S GONNA END UP BEING THE COMMANDER IN THAT POSITION? THEY'RE GOING TO ADD SOMEBODY FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR SUPPORT STAFF FOR THAT YET.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GONNA NEED.
BUT THE GRANT SHOULD COVER IT.
THE ONLY THING THAT MAY BE AN ISSUE IS AS WE LOOK AT THE SALARIES, OBVIOUSLY I HAD TO ASK THEM IN THE GRANT FOR MONEY BASED ON THE SALARIES WE HAD.
YOU CAN'T DO TRICKERY MATH AND PROJECT WHAT Y'ALL COULD DO.
CUZ I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO.
SO THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE DIFFERENCE OF 20 OR 30,000 THAT THE GRANT DOESN'T COVER.
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BUT I WOULD GO TO THEM FIRST.BUT THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN RULES WITH THAT AND HOW THAT WORKS.
OH, I'M GONNA GET THE COLLECTIONS AS LAST.
BUT ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT DISTRICT? WELL, I GOTTA ASK ABOUT THE TEST FOR YOU.
YOU SAY YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, BE THE PERSON FOR THAT DIDN'T SAY DIDN'T NEED, WE DIDN'T GET IN THE, IN THE GRANT PART OF IT.
WE'RE WE GOT, WE'RE FILING AND WE'RE GOING TO WORK UNTIL THE NEXT PROCESS COMES UP.
CONSTABLE PRECINCT TOO ALSO MENTION THAT ONE OF HIS GUYS GONNA BE INVOLVED.
BUT, BUT WHAT I HAD TOLD, UH, CONSTABLE JOHNSON, THEY'RE GONNA BE WORKING OVER THERE 40 HOURS A WEEK OR WHATEVER.
THEY'RE OVER THERE NOW ROCKING RIGHT NOW.
THEY'RE WORKING OVER THERE RIGHT NOW AND DOING SOME GOOD STUFF.
I MEAN, BUT WHAT I SAID, AND I DON'T WANNA, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR, UH, CONSTABLE JOHNSON, BUT WHAT I SHARED WITH HIM AND I BELIEVE IS, I DON'T KNOW IF SHERIFF AND I EVEN TALKED ABOUT IT, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE EVENTUALLY WE'LL PROBABLY ASK THE GRANT TO FUND THAT POSITION.
LIKE I WAS ABLE TO LEND MY INVESTIGATOR TO RUN THAT, THAT TASK FORCE.
BUT HE, WHAT WE ARE AN INVESTIGATOR DOWN, SO I NEED TO REPLACE THAT AND DIDN'T WANNA COME TO Y'ALL FOR THAT.
SO WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS WE'VE GOT THE, THE WORLD HAVE FORNY, BUT AS OTHER PEOPLE FOLD IN, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIGURE THAT OUT.
ONE THING WE'VE REALIZED WITH THIS, ONE THING WE'VE REALIZED WITH THIS IS, UM, THAT IT DOES WORK.
THAT THEY'RE GETTING OUT THERE.
THEY'RE, THEY HAVE SET UP NOW, I THINK SHERIFF, UM, LIKE WOULD BE A TIP LINE OR SOMETHING FOR THEM.
NOT, NOT NECESSARILY CRIME STOPPERS, BUT KIND OF THINGS THAT PEOPLE ARE SEEING.
THINGS THAT THEY'RE A LITTLE, THEY'RE SUSPICIOUS OF.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT THE MONEY.
BUT WHAT I TOLD CONSTABLE JOHNSON IS I BELIEVE THE WAY TO DO THAT IS TO NOT NECESSARILY, AND I I SUGGESTED HE TALKED TO THE OTHER CONSTABLES, HAVE IT BE CONSIDERED A PRECINCT TOO.
BUT ANTICIPATING WHAT YOU'RE THINKING MAY BE IS WHY WOULDN'T COMMISSIONER BARBER WANT HI.
WHY WOULDN'T MATT WANT SOMEBODY? SO THIS PERSON THAT'S ON THE TASK FORCE SHOULD BE A CONSTABLE REPRESENTATIVE.
CUZ THAT'S THE THING THAT EVERY DEPARTMENT BRINGS SOMETHING UNIQUE TO A TASK FORCE.
SO AFTER THEY WORK AND, AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE PROBLEMS THAT TASK FORCE HAVE, THAT THEY STAY TOO LONG.
THAT WHEN THEY LEAVE THAT PRECINCT, WE GET SOMEBODY NEW THAT WE MIGHT FLIP OVER HERE AND, AND THAT CONSTABLE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT THEY WANNA PUT ON THE TASK FORCE SINCE THE COUNTY'S PAYING FOR IT SHOULD BE A CONSTABLE REPRESENTATIVE, NOT A PRE JUST A PRECINCT TOO.
SO Y'ALL DON'T GET POPPED WITH EVERY TIME.
OH, WE NEED SOMEBODY, WE NEED SOME.
NO, WE HAVE A CONSTABLE REPRESENTATIVE.
THE CITY WILL I PUT THEIR PEOPLE ON.
THE SHERIFF WILL HAVE ONE AND THEN THEY'LL BE A CONSTABLE REPRESENTATIVE.
THAT'S WHAT I JUST THE ONE YEAH.
I SUGGESTED BECAUSE I COULD SEE HOW THIS, IT COULD GET CUMBERSOME REASON I WAS ASKING YOU ASKING OTHER DAY, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE MAJORITY IN ONE STATE, THERE IS THE OTHER TRUE GUESS WHERE BELONG, YOU KNOW, THIS KIND.
I BELIEVE THAT THE, THAT MY OPINION FROM SIN WHERE THE CRIME IS, THEY WOULD EITHER COME OUT OF TWO OR THREE RIGHT NOW.
IT'S GONNA BE OUTTA ONE BECAUSE WINDMILL FARMS IS IN THREE NOW.
SO I THOUGHT HE OUGHT TO GET HIS HEAD TOGETHER.
I ALREADY TOLD HIM ON THE PHONE, HE MADE THAT TO YOU GUYS PRESENTATION, WHICH IS FINE.
AND I THINK HE SHOULD HAVE TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP OF WHAT'S COMING.
BUT I THINK THAT OVER TIME THAT THIS COULD FLIP BETWEEN THOSE TWO.
AND I THINK JASON WAS RIGHT TO GO AHEAD AND BRING IT UP TO YOU GUYS TO MENTION WHAT'S HAPPENING.
I ALSO, UH, SUGGESTED TO HIM THAT YOU COULD, SINCE THESE ARE IN THESE CONTRACT COMMUNITIES, GET THE CONTRACT PEOPLE AS WE WERE NE HE OUGHT TO HELP HAVE US HELP HIM WITH THOSE CONTRACTS.
BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THAT THEY'RE GETTING ON THE COUNTY THAT'S NOT BEING PROVIDED FOR THROUGH THE CONTRACT.
AND IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN TALK ABOUT.
I THOUGHT IT WAS, I DIDN'T WANNA ASK ANYMORE.
I COULD SHOW YOU DALLAS'S NUMBERS, BUT THAT MAKE YOUR, YOU KNOW, YOUR HAIR TURNED GRAY.
UM, ANYTHING ELSE? WAS THAT A SLATE?
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NO, I WOULD NEVER SLANT YOU BECAUSE I WANT SOMETHING.SHE JUST HAVE TO LOOK AT ME WHEN SHE SAID THAT.
WE'RE WE'RE READY TO GO TO COLLECTION.
COLLECTION DEPARTMENT GUYS, I'LL TELL YOU THIS, AND I'M, AND I'M NOT BEING FUNNY.
THEY'RE ONE OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT RUNS SEAMLESSLY THAT YOU NEVER HEAR COMPLAINTS ABOUT.
Y'ALL HAVEN'T HAD THE, THE SITUATION WITH COLLECTIONS WHEN IT DIDN'T RUN WELL.
WHAT PAGE ARE WE ON? UH, WHAT'S THEIR, THEIR LINE ITEM IS 28 AND ANOTHER EARLY FILING MEMO LETTER.
WELL, YOU WON'T GET IT UNLESS YOU ASK.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS, BUT I'M GLAD.
THIS DEPARTMENT IS REALLY A DEPARTMENT IN OF ITSELF.
THE STATUTE ALLOWS FOR, UH, IT TO BE MANAGED AND YOU GUYS DIDN'T WANNA MANAGE IT.
UM, WHEN, UM, JUDGE WOOD WAS HERE.
BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT LYNN MANAGES THIS GREAT ON HER OWN.
WE GIVE SUPERVISION, WE HELP HER WITH HER BUDGET, BUT SHE'S DOWN THERE RUNNING COLLECTION, DOING A GOOD JOB.
AND SO THIS IS ONE OF THESE THINGS YOU GO, WE OFFLOADED THIS MANAGEMENT TO THE DA'S OFFICE AND YOU DON'T HAVE PROBLEMS. THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS BECAUSE SHE, IT'S EFFICIENT.
SHE IS FOR A PERSON THAT'S MANAGING MONEY AND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY SHE'S MANAGING, HER POSITION NEEDS TO BE PAID COMMISERATE WITH WHAT SHE'S DOING.
AND IF I, IF MY CASELOAD IS UP AND SHE'S HAD THE SAME STAFF, SHE NEEDS ANOTHER STAFF.
WHEN YOU HAVE THREE TOTAL IN A DEPARTMENT, IF ONE PERSON'S ON VACATION, SHE NEEDS ANOTHER STAFF PERSON.
AND IT'S JUST, IT IS SIMPLY WHAT IT IS.
THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE TO PROCESS, WHICH MEANS THERE'S THINGS THAT FAULTY TO CRACK.
WE NEED TO BE LITERALLY LOOKING AT DOING MORE COMPLIANCE WITH PEOPLE THAT DON'T PAY.
I THINK, WELL THAT'LL HAPPEN A LITTLE BIT BETTER WHEN WE HAVE ANOTHER COURT.
UM, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY COULD DO SHOW CAUSE HEARINGS.
BRINGING THESE PEOPLE BEFORE ASKING THEM WHY THEY DON'T PAY THE RULES CHANGED A LOT ABOUT ENCY AND MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
WHERE BEFORE WE PUT PEOPLE IN CUSTODY, WE'RE NOT, WE DON'T DO THAT AS MUCH, BUT THEY DO A GOOD JOB AND SHE BRINGS THAT REPORT TO Y'ALL PRETTY FAITHFULLY EVERY QUARTER AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT SHE'S COLLECTING.
SO ANY INCREASE IS PAID FOR BY THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT SHE COLLECTS.
NOW THE ARGUMENT MIGHT BE THAT THE MONEY WOULD BE COLLECTED ANYWAY, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE AT THE RATE THAT SHE'S COLLECTING IT.
THEY CALL, THEY USE THE TOOLS, THEY HAVE THE SOFTWARE AND SHE NEEDS MORE HELP.
AND HER POSITION NEEDS TO BE PUT IN A POSITION OF A PERSON THAT'S RUNNING A DEPARTMENT.
AND I DON'T MIND OVERSEEING THIS POSITION.
AND THEM, I GO DOWN THERE PROBABLY ABOUT ONCE A MONTH.
LET'S JUST BE SURE TELL YOU THAT IT'S WHAT LITTLE, YOU KNOW, EFFORT IT TAKES ON MY PART.
MICHELLE MANAGES HER MORE THAN I HAVE TO BECAUSE MICHELLE STANAL IS OUR OFFICE MANAGER.
SO IF THERE'S ANY PROBLEMS, YOU, YOU KNOW THE PROBLEMS THAT YOU CAN HAVE IN OFFICE WITH STAFFING ISSUES, PERSONAL ISSUES, THINGS THAT COME UP.
Y'ALL DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH ALL THAT.
KAREN, IS THAT IN HER, UH, THOSE PEOPLE LISTED IN THIS FOR THE DA'S OFFICE? THAT POSITION OBJECTIONS? I HEARD IT'S SEPARATE.
THEY'RE IN THEIR OWN DEPARTMENT THERE.
THEY HAVE THEIR OWN DEPARTMENT.
YOU'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF I PUT THE, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY I'M MAKING, THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.
YEAH, THEY'RE IN A SEPARATE DEPARTMENT.
SO ABOVE THE, THE DA'S OFFICE.
UH, THEY GOT IT'S AND TWO ASSISTANTS IT IS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG SHE'S GONNA DO IT.
SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE GET, KEEP THIS PO THIS DEPARTMENT RUNNING.
WELL BECAUSE IT RUNS SEAMLESSLY HOW MANY YEARS SHE'S BEEN HERE.
SHE DID SAY, UH, WELL IT DOESN'T SAY ON THIS ONE.
YEAH, I'M JUST SAYING THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST KIND OF GET AN IDEA OF THAT COULD HAPPEN.
HOW MANY YEARS SHE WORKED FOR LAURA FOR A GOOD AMOUNT OF TIME.
I BET SHE'S BEEN HERE 10 YEARS.
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BEEN HERE 9.3.AT 10 YEARS THAT, I MEAN I WOULD APPROXIMATE THAT.
AND I THINK THAT SHE DOES A GOOD JOB.
I JUST, I JUST THINK THAT COLLECTIONS IS ONE OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS THAT GETS OVERLOOKED AND THE LEVEL OF PROFESSIONALISM SHE BRINGS TO IT IS EXEMPLIFIED BY THE FACT THAT YOU NEVER HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.
SO IF PEOPLE CAME IN AND COMPLAINED, I DON'T LIKE ENOUGH MONEY, I COULD GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
I'M DEALING WITH LARGE SUMS OF MONEY.
Y'ALL KNOW THOSE ARE THE VERY PEOPLE YOU HAVE TO KEEP AN EYE ON THAT COULD BE DOING SOMETHING WRONG.
MOST PEOPLE IN HR AND THAT HANDLE MONEY MAKE MORE MONEY BECAUSE THOSE ARE PEOPLE THAT YOU'VE DECIDED THAT THEY'RE IN A POSITION OF AUTHORITY AND LYNN'S GONNA BE THE ONE THAT'S GONNA MAKE SURE THAT TILL IS RIGHT.
OR LEE, WHERE ARE YOU BASED IN THE 47? OH 74 ON HER SALARY.
YOU TALKING ABOUT THAT NUMBER? NO, THAT'S, YEAH, FOR THE CLERKS, THE DEPUTY CLERK THAT WAS PUTTING THEM ON PARITY WITH OUR INTAKE PEOPLE WHO ARE, I CAN'T HEAR YOU MICHELLE, COME ON UP HERE WITH IT'S PUTTING THEM EQUAL WITH OUR INTAKE CLERKS AND ASSISTANT.
AND THAT'S WHERE THE PROBLEM IS.
THEY SHOULD BE 45 IN 2000 IF THEY GET THEIR CERTIFICATION.
THIS IS WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
AND THEY DO HAVE, THAT'S WHY THAT NUMBER'S BACK.
SHE'S JUST TELLING US, SAY THE SALARY'S 45, NOT 47.
CUZ 47 INCLUDES THE, WELL WE HAVE TO ASK FOR THE 47 SO THAT IT WILL BE, I MEAN IF THEY DON'T GET THEIR CERTIFICATE, WE NEVER USE THE 2000 BUT IF THEY DO, WE NEED THAT 2000 TO BE THERE.
HOW CLERK GET A CERTIFICATION THAT'S NOT FAIRLY OKAY.
THEN WITH OUR INTAKE PAIR, I MEAN I HAVE A DEGREE AND I DON'T GET CERTIFICATION.
WELL, AND AND BEING PART OF OUR OFFICE, WE OFFER THEM THAT BECAUSE HERE'S WHAT HAPPENS SOMETIME WHEN WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT DON'T COME, THEY'RE SICK.
WE COULD AND WE HAVE TAKEN SOMEBODY FOR COLLECTION WHEN IT'S SLOW AND PUT 'EM IN DOING SOME INTAKE AND PARALEGAL.
SO WE CAN, OUR WHOLE IDEA IN THE OFFICE DOESN'T HAPPEN OFTEN BECAUSE THEY'RE BETTER AT COLLECTING THAN THEY ARE BEING UP IN A COURT.
BUT YOU SEE WHERE THE PROBLEM IS COMING SURE.
Y'ALL BASED THEM ON 47 AND I GOT ANOTHER 2000 IN CERTIFICATION.
IF I TAKE THAT AWAY, THEY'RE GONNA NOTICE THEIR CHECKS OR LESS.
SO NOW I'M STUCK PAYING IN 47 PLUS THE TWO THAT YOU'VE ALREADY DONE THIS WITH.
BUT I DO YOU LET THE AUDITOR DECIDE HOW TO DISTINGUISH THAT TO HELP Y'ALL KEEP UP WITH IT? BE CORRECT.
SO IS IT BETTER TO TELL YOU THAT WE NEED TO BASE A 45 PLUS POTENTIAL CERTIFICATE? I WOULD PUT IT IN PARENTHESES BASED ON PASSING CERTIFICATION.
AND WE'D KNOW THAT PERSON IS 45.
WE WON'T PUT 2000 IN THE BUDGET.
IF THEY DON'T GET IT, THEY DON'T GET IT.
AND IT JUST FLOWS BACK TO GENTLEMEN, JUST TELL OH YOU WANT IT AND I CAN DO THAT.
I APPRECIATE THAT CUZ IT REALLY GETS CONFUSING FOR US.
I'VE COVERED THOSE PEOPLE THAT WE'VE ALREADY MESSED UP.
WE'RE NOT CORRECTLY COMMUNICATING.
SO I'VE COVERED THAT IN THE BUDGET SO FAR BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO CUT NOBODY'S CHECK AND THEM GET THEIR FEELINGS HURT OR GET UPSET BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN RECEIVING IT.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET IT RIGHT.
AND I HAD TALKED TO THE JUDGE ABOUT IT AND UNDER EXPLAINED IT TO HIM.
WE'RE GOOD NOW WHAT? WHAT? SOME MOVIE.
I THINK THAT WAS A GOOD MOVIE.
ANYTHING ELSE GUYS? I DID, THAT'S IT.
JUDGE, CAN I REMIND YOU OF SOMETHING? SURE.
WHEN Y'ALL DECIDE ON RAISES, WE MAKE IT EFFECTIVE THE FIRST FULL PAYCHECK IN OCTOBER.
WE DON'T BACKDATE TILL THE FIRST, NOT OCTOBER 1ST.
BECAUSE IT CAUSED US A LOT OF PROBLEMS TO WRITE SOMEBODY A $27 CHECK JUST BECAUSE OF THE VOTE.
I GUESS I GOT MY SCHEDULES MIXED UP.
I'M GONNA WATCH THE VIDEO LATER AND GET CAUGHT UP ON EVERYTHING.
I DON'T TAKE IT THAT I'M NOT
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CAUSE LIKE SHE WAS THE FASTEST ON THE DRAW WITH THE EMAIL.YOU SEE THAT BAG? SHE'S, OH, WELL SHE'S BEEN TO THE BEACH.
I HAVEN'T, I HAVEN'T LEFT IT YET IN MY MIND.
BEFORE YOU START, LET GET ME ONE BEFORE I MESS UP YOUR PRESENTATION.
Y'ALL GOT COOKIES? YOU'RE NEVER GONNA MESS UP MY PRESENTATION.
BROUGHT YOU, I BROUGHT, SHE BROUGHT, BROUGHT YOU COOKIES.
DID SHE? YEAH, I DID LOOK AT BROUGHT I'M THEM UP FOR YOU.
YOU KNOW THESE CLEAR WATER? CLEAR SAND.
BUT IT'S, SO SHE GAVE YOU ALL THESE FOUR.
I WAS TOLD OATMEALS AT THE BACK, BUT I WANTED, BOY, THAT LOOKS GOOD RIGHT THERE.
IS YOU DOING OKAY? JUST, JUST FOR KIDS' SAKE WHEN YOU USE YES, I'M GONNA, I LIKE THAT.
HOW ARE YOU OUT? GOOD, GOOD, GOOD.
THAT SEEMS LIKE IT'S GETTING BIGGER EVERY YEAR.
UH, SO IT'S IN DETAIL ORIENTED, SO WE'RE PRETTY TRANSPARENT.
I THINK SO IF YOU LOOKED AT IT, SO I GUESS WE'LL START AT ONE 40 NOW THAT I'M TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM THE 5 65 61.
SO I'M LEARNING THE AUDITOR HAS WHOOPED ME IN THE SHAPE.
NOW I'M HAVING TO WORK MM-HMM.
YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE HAVING TO DO A LOT OF, LOT OF YEAH.
DATA ENTRY, BUT THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
SO IT'S JUST A TEAM, TEAM CONCEPT HERE.
SO I GUESS WE GET TO THE UH, FIRST PAGE OF OUR ONE 40, WHICH IS THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE CAN PRETTY WELL LOOK IS UH, AS WE WENT DOWN THROUGH HERE, I'LL TELL YOU SOME THINGS THAT I HAVE DONE, UH, THIS YEAR'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
USUALLY IN OUR, UH, COMPUTER FORENSIC, I BREAK THAT OUT REALLY WELL.
THE COMPUTER EQUIPMENT AND INVESTIGATIVE SUPPORT HAS GOT FAIRLY LARGE.
I HAVE BROKE THAT INTO SEPARATE TABS.
THAT WAY YOU CAN TELL EXACTLY HOW WE'RE SPENDING MONEY AND WHAT'S BEING USED.
SO PRETTY WELL AS YOU GO THROUGH ALL THE LINE ITEMS, THE ONE THING THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR A LITTLE INCREASE, UH, IS AMMUNITION IS UP BY FIVE.
UH, IF YOU GO TO TRAINING AND EDUCATION, WHICH MOTELS AND ALL Y'ALL KNOW, WE MOVE THAT UP JUST BY FIVE.
UH, AND WE'LL GET INTO THE COMPUTER FORENSIC, WHICH IT WENT UP, THE COMPUTER EQUIPMENT WENT UP AND THE INVESTIGATIVE SUPPORT WENT UP.
UH, THE DRUG TESTING, UH, WE HAD ABOUT 10,000 THERE.
WE DROPPED THAT DOWN TO 5,000.
UH, IF YOU NOTICE, WE'RE NOT SPENDING THAT MUCH.
I THINK AS OF RIGHT NOW, TC TESTING I'VE AT 1200, 1100 OR HOLD ON, I GOT THE NUMBER.
I THINK IT'S 1600 IS WHAT WE SPENT SO FAR.
SO DRUG DRUG TESTING, DO YOU DEAL DRUG TESTING AT ALL? EVERYBODY? I'M NOT DRUG, I'M NOT DRUG TESTING EVERYTHING THAT WE GET.
CAN WE ASK EARLY ABOUT THAT WHILE, NO, I MEAN WHAT, WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS IF WE, I'LL SEND A DRUG TEST IF I HAVE TO, IF THAT'S MY ONLY CASE IF, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THC TESTING.
BUT IF I GET TC AND THEN I GET A FELONY CASE OUT OF IT, I DON'T WORRY ABOUT TC.
IF THAT GAVE ME THE PC TO GET THERE.
I DON'T THIS, THIS DON'T BOTHER ME CUZ I HAVE PROBABLE CAUSE AND PROBABLE CAUSE GETS ME THIS.
WELL, WASN'T JASON SENDING EVERYTHING TO BE TESTED? YEAH.
WHAT HE SAID THE OTHER, THAT'S WHAT HE SAID THE OTHER DAY.
BUT WE TALKED, I TALKED, I LEARNED I I'M LISTEN TO YOU GUYS.
SO THAT GIVES ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO CALL PEOPLE AND SAY
SO BEFORE IT WAS PRESUMPTIVELY BY AS AN OFFICER IF YOU SMELLED OR YOU COULD DETERMINE BY LOOKING, YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO TEST THAT IT WAS MARIJUANA.
NOW WE DON'T KNOW IT'S A MARIJUANA OR C B D UNLESS YOU DO QUANTITATIVE TEST OR OF THE MAN.
IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE PROBABLE CAUSE AND YOU SEE A GUN OR YOU HAVE OTHER CRIMINAL MATTERS THAT HAPPEN, YOU STILL HAVE PROBABLE CAUSE ON THE SECOND CASE OR THE THIRD CASE OR THE FOURTH CASE.
BUT THE DA'S OFFICE, I'M NOT IN A POSITION OF TELLING THE LEGISLATURE WHAT TO DO.
BUT IF YOU WANT TO PROCEED ON THAT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A TEST.
YOU COULD GET YOUR PERSON TO STIPULATE WE'VE DONE THAT ON SOME PRETRIAL DIVERSION.
WE HAVE HAD SOME PEOPLE WANT TO DO THAT, BUT WE HAVE JUST FOLLOWED THE PROTOCOL IS
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BUT THAT GUN CASE IS A GOOD CASE CUZ THEY HAD PC TO BE IN THE VEHICLE.UH, WHAT THE HOSPITAL SHARED WITH ME, AND I DON'T DISAGREE WITH HIM.
WELL SOME OF YOUR OTHER DAS TOLD ME THAT.
I SAID, OKAY, WELL THEY'RE WRONG AND IF YOU HAVE THAT CALL ME.
THEY'RE YOUNGER PROSECUTORS, MAYBE THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT.
I'M VERY CLEAR WHAT LAW WE HAVE.
NOT IF MARIJUANA IS ILLEGAL AND YOU SEE SOMETHING THAT YOU BELIEVE IS MARIJUANA TO GET TO BEYOND A REASONABLE VALUE, NOT TO TEST IT TO HAVE PC.
HE UNDERSTANDS THAT AND WE'LL CONVEY THAT TO THE PROSECUTORS THAT ARE YOUNGER THAT DO THOSE CASES.
SO THAT'S GOING, THAT'S GOING TO CUT DOWN ON HIS DRUG TEST.
IF HE HAS A DRUG CASE, SAY FOR EXAMPLE, UNDER TWO OUNCES AND HE WANTS TO TEST, IT'S FINE.
SO ALSO I, I DON'T KNOW IF I SHARE THIS WITH HIM, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE I SHARE WITH YOU FOR RECORD PURPOSES.
THE LABS ARE NOW TESTING, THE STATE LABS ARE TESTING ON MARIJUANA.
I CAN'T TELL YOU BEFORE THEY WEREN'T IN 16.
SO I CAN'T TELL YOU OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD WHAT THE CRITERIA.
I KNOW MAYBE ON GUMMIES THEY'RE NOT TESTING, BUT THEY ARE TESTING LEAFY SUBSTANCES AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT TIMELINE LOOKS LIKE ON GETTING THAT RETURN BACK AND THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.
BUT OUR LABS ARE TESTING AND HE DETERMINED THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE SHERIFF AND I, WE BACKED OFF OF THAT AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE EVEN NEED TO COME BACK AND ASK YOU GUYS.
WE HAD PAID FOR, I'M SORRY BRIAN TAKING YOUR NO, YOU'RE FINE.
WE PAID FOR CHEMIST AND THAT CAUGHT US UP AND WE EXPLAIN A CHEMIST WITH HENDERSON COUNTY AND THAT GAVE US THE BUMP.
IT SOUNDS KIND OF SILLY SINCE TAX DOLLARS PAY FOR THAT.
BUT WE GOT A CHEMIST AT A PRETTY GOOD DEAL AND THAT BUMPED US UP, WHICH WOULD MEAN THAT WOULD, MIGHT BE CHEAPER WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL THESE INDIVIDUAL LAB COSTS TO GO AHEAD AND GET BACK AND VISIT GETCHES.
BUT OUR, OUR, OUR CASE LOAD IS STILL AS HEAVY AS IT WAS THEN.
UH, WE WERE BACKLOGGED BY MONTHS.
EXACTLY CUZ HE SUBMITS EVERYTHING AND IT'S ABOUT TWO WEEKS WHEN WE GET ANYTHING BACK.
THE LONGEST WE'VE HAD IS THREE TO FOUR WEEKS.
SO THE DPS LAB IS GETTING OUR STUFF BACK IN A TIMELY MANNER OKAY.
IN MY OPINION TO HELP WITH HER CASES.
AND THE THING THAT TAKE US LONGER, YOU KNOW, IS OUR DNA.
BUT THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE LAB.
THAT'S A DIFFERENT YEAH, THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT.
SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVEN'T COME BACK AND ASKED BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD THE PROBLEM YET OF BEING BACKLOGGED.
NOW HENDERSON COUNTY, THEY WON AN LOAN ON THEIR OWN AND THEY GOT THEIR, THEY CONTINUE TO HAVE THEIR OWN CHEMISTS TO DO THEIR WORK.
SO I I'M I I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT'S, THAT'S A DECISION FOR EVERY LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY AND THAT IS A SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT DECISION OFFICE OFFICE TO MAKE ASL NEEDS TO DECIDE HOW MUCH THEY WANT TO.
BUT IF YOU GOT THAT TEST AND YOU WANNA PROSECUTE SOMEBODY FOR UNDER TWO OFFICE, I'M ALL FOR IT.
SO THAT'S PRETTY WELL WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THAT.
AND THEN LIKE I SAID ON THE CASE WE DROPPED, WE DROPPED THE THC, UH, THE PARTS AND REPAIR.
I KNOW WE SPENT A LITTLE MORE LAST YEAR, BUT WE HAD TO STEAL A BUNCH OF OWN VEHICLES.
SO I'M EXPECTING WITH THE LEASE PROGRAM WHAT WE'RE GOING, THAT SHOULDN'T BE NEAR AS HIGH.
SO I'M LEAVING THAT BACK AT NORMAL.
UH, AND THEN IF YOU NOTICE THE ANALYSTS AND ALL THAT STUFF, I'VE TOOK ALL THAT STUFF OUT.
AND THEN THE ONE CAPITAL EQUIPMENT THAT I DID, I WILL TELL YOU Y'ALL DID THE LINE ITEM TRANSFER.
WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO, I KNOW WE'VE GOT SOME SALARY MONEY IN THERE, SOME OF THE BIG TICKET ITEMS WE NOW I'M TRYING TO GO AHEAD AND PURCHASE HIM NOW INSTEAD OF PUTTING IT IN THE BUDGET, IT MAKES MORE SENSE DOING THAT.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE.
AND THAT AND THAT BIG ITEM WAS THE NEGOTIATING STUFF AND RECORDING AND STUFF.
CAUSE WE HAD FOUND OUT IN OUR LAST LITTLE INCIDENT WITH NEGOTIATIONS, SOME OF THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE RECORDED AND THAT'S REALLY GOOD FOR US IN COURT.
SO THERE'S NEW TECH TECHNOLOGY OUT THERE.
SO WE GOT THAT INFORMATION AND, AND DID THAT.
SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH TECHNOLOGY AND MAKE SURE WE'RE MAKING GOOD CASES.
UH, AND YOU NOTICE, UH, WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE OTHER BREAKDOWN, IT'S, WE KIND OF HAVE AN INCREASE OF 7.62 PERCENTAGE IN OUR BUDGET, BUT WE'LL BREAK THAT DOWN IN HOW WE DID THAT.
SO, UH, Y'ALL DON'T NEED TO ATOMIZE STUFF, BUT LET'S GO ON THE FIRST ITEMIZATION OF, OF THE UH, FORENSIC LABORATORY AND THAT WOULD BE YOUR THIRD TAB AND YOU KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA THERE WHAT'S WENT UP.
THIS IS ALL OUR FORENSIC STUFF THAT WE DO ON EVIDENCE, UH, FOR PHONES, COMPUTERS, DVS, EVERYTHING.
SO IT'LL BE 4 4 0 8 0 0 0 0 DASH ONE 40
YOU GOT PLENTY OF ROOM FOR GROWTH.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THAT AND SEEN LAST YEAR WAS 95, 507.
I THINK THE BIG THING THAT YOU'LL NOTICE IS THAT UH, OUR GRAY KEY WENT UP QUITE A BIT AND
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THAT'S JUST OUR, THAT'S JUST BECAUSE THE TECHNOLOGY AND CHANGING IN PHONES.BUT THIS IS STUFF WE'VE GOTTA HAVE TO BREAK PHONES AND DO THAT.
SO, AND THEN OUR DVR MANAGER FORENSIC STUFF THAT'S WENT UP.
I MEAN YOU CAN PRETTY WELL SEE WHAT ALL WENT UP AND ALSO OUR ANTIOCH THAT DOES THE SOFTWARE FOR OUR DVR STUFF THAT PULLS ALL THAT, UH, OFF OF OTHER PEOPLE'S DVR.
SO, AND THEN OUR EVIDENCE STORAGE DEVICES, WE'RE HAVING TO HAVE THAT FOR US.
IF ANYBODY, WE DO ANY FORENSIC FOR ANYBODY, THEY HAVE TO SUPPLY THEIR OWN.
UH, BUT WE'VE HAD TO INCREASE THAT CUZ QUITE A BIT CUZ WE ARE GETTING LOTS OF DATA AND WE'RE SENDING TERABYTES OVER TO THEM
SO IT TAKES A LOT MORE TO, TO PURCHASE THAT SO YOU CAN SEE THE INCREASE IN THAT.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THEM? LINE ITEMS AND WELL IF ANYTHING THAT HASN'T GONE UP NO MATTER WHAT IT IS, RIGHT? HUH? YEAH.
AND THEN ALL THE QUOTES AND EVERYTHING IS SUPPORTING DOCUMENT IS BEHIND THAT WHERE YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, THE NEXT ITEMIZED DEAL.
THIS IS WHAT I BROKE DOWN TO COMPUTER EQUIPMENT CUZ EVERYBODY JUST PUT SOME COMPUTER EQUIPMENT.
SO I'M GOING TO KINDA GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING.
AND THIS IS FOR THE DEPARTMENT AS WHOLE.
IF YOU'LL SEE IT, THIS IS OUR REPLACEMENT AND, UH, THAT WE NEED TO DO THROUGHOUT ALL THE, UH, STUFF AND ALSO HAVING SOME PHONES PUT BACK TO THE SIDE IN CASE WE NEED PHONES TO REPLACE.
SO YOU SEE WHAT WE'RE GETTING THE COST ON EVERYTHING.
WE'RE USING REFURBISHED LAPTOPS AND STUFF.
IT WORKS JUST AS WELL AS BUYING A BRAND NEW AND WIDE WASTE OF MONEY.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE COST OF THAT 134.
THEN I'VE ADDED THE SUBSTATION DOWN IN THE BOTTOM.
UH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA NEED TO GET THAT ONE KICKED OFF.
AND THE FIREBOX IS, IS THE PROTECTION OVER THERE AS FAR AS THE CONNECTION.
NOW YOU'VE GOT THE SUBSTATION IN YOUR BUDGET AS NATHAN GONNA HAVE SOMETHING.
HE HE'S GONNA HAVE FAR AS THE UH, LINE COMING IN THERE.
THIS IS ALL THE EQUIPMENT WE NEED INSIDE THE BUILDING.
HE'S TAKING CARE OF THE PIPE, THE INTERNET, ALL THAT AND HIS, OKAY.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE PUT THE EQUIPMENT IN OURS WHERE Y'ALL WOULD UNDERSTAND.
WHAT WE NEED OVER THERE, BRIAN.
THIS SERVER IS GONNA BE FOR FIVE YEARS.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WAS FIXING TO BRING UP.
YOU'VE AGREED TO FIVE YEAR PAYMENTS.
THAT'S AND IT AND THE WHOLE STUFF IS IN THAT BOOK.
YOU'LL, YOU'LL SEE IT IN THERE.
AND THIS, LET ME KIND OF TALK ABOUT THIS.
I HAVE SEVEN SERVERS THAT'S GOT, THAT'S GOT TO BE REPLACED, UH, WITH THIS, THIS IS WHAT YOU CALL A UNIFIED SOLUTION FOR SERVERS.
THIS IS TAKING PLACE OF SEVEN OF IT, BUT IT HAS, UH, BUILT IN REDUNDANCY IN IT.
SO IF SOMETHING GOES DOWN, I CAN GET TO IT.
PLUS WE ALSO BACK UP AND PLUS WE'RE LOOKING AT COLD STORAGE, WHICH EVERYBODY, I'M LEARNING MORE ABOUT TECHNOLOGY AND WHAT I REALLY WANT TO.
COLD STORAGE IS JUST WHERE WE'RE STORING IT AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK AND GET IT.
UH, BUT IT'S PRETTY EXPENSIVE.
UH, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO WORK ON THAT.
WE'VE GOT SERVERS OTHER PLACE WE'RE PUSHING IT, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO FIND THAT THIRD PLACE TO SECURE THE, THAT.
SO WITH THAT, LIKE I SAY, MY BIG THING IS THIS HAS BUILT IN REDUNDANCY IN THE SYSTEM ITSELF.
UH, AND IT'S PRETTY EXPENSIVE.
I AIN'T GONNA LIE, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, SAME THING.
I BELIEVE NATHAN IS USING THE SAME SOLUTION, UH, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN HIS, UH, THE BIG THING THAT I'VE GOTTA DO WITH A LOT OF MY STUFF IS IT'S GOTTA BE C JUST COMPLIANCE.
AND THAT'S WHAT I, WE USED TO HAVE ANOTHER CLOUD BACKUP, BUT IT WASN'T C'S COMPLIANT, SO WE HAD TO GET AWAY FROM IT AND THAT WAS BARRACUDA.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIND ANOTHER SOLUTION DOWN THE ROAD, BUT WE'VE GOTTA DO SOMETHING WITH THE SERVERS TO CON COLLECT THAT SO THAT THAT'S THAT BREAKDOWN.
THEY AGREED TO IT AND I THINK IT'S JUST 10 TIMES BETTER DEAL IF WE CAN DO A FIVE YEAR DEAL AND PAY IT OUT.
UH, MAKES IT A LOT EASIER ON THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE.
ANY QUESTIONS OVER COMPUTER EQUIPMENT? ANYONE? NO.
THIS IS OUR INVESTIGATIVE SPORT.
SINCE IT'S, IT'S GROWN PRETTY BIG, I'VE STARTED GOING AHEAD AND IT'S BREAKING IT OUT WHERE EVERYBODY'S GOT A GOOD UNDERSTANDING, UH, THE MISCELLANEOUS INVESTIGATIONS.
THIS IS ALL OUR OTHER DNA STUFF.
WE DO DNA WITH DPS, BUT ALSO OUTSIDE DNA STUFF THAT WE DO AND SOME OTHER STUFF THAT WE HAVE TESTED EITHER WITH WHEN THE RANGERS ARE INVOLVED AND STUFF.
SO WHAT'S, WHAT IS FLOCK SAFETY? FLOCK SAFETY IS THE ONE THAT OUR, UH, WE WAS THE FIRST ONE TO BRING THAT INTO THE COUNTY IS OUR LICENSE PLATE READERS THAT NOTIFY THE OFFICERS ON THE STREET.
AND WE'VE GOT A PARTNERSHIP WITH, UH, DEVONSHIRE CLEMENS RANCH AND KAUFMAN PD, WHERE THEY'RE PAYING HALF OF ALL THIS.
SO WE'VE GOT THE CAMERAS OUT THERE, I THINK RIGHT NOW WITH ALL THE OTHER MUDS AND JP OR CONSTABLE AND PRECINCT TOO, I THINK WE'VE GOT ABOUT 230, UH, LPRS IN THE COUNTY, WHICH IS HELPING A LOT.
IT'S A LOT OF, IT'S A BIG HELP.
SO WE'RE USING TECHNOLOGY AT IT'S FINEST TO, TO DO SOME GOOD WORK.
YOU'RE FINDING A LOT OF STOLEN CARSS OVER AND WE'RE, WE'RE DOING A LOT.
AND PLUS THE LP, LP TRAILERS THAT WE'VE GOT OUT HERE.
SO TECHNOLOGY, I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST
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ADVANCE IN TECHNOLOGY IN THIS COUNTY IN LAW ENFORCEMENT THAN A LOT OF PEOPLE.SO WE'RE DOING REALLY, REALLY GOOD IN THAT ASPECT.
AND PLUS PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR, UH, COMMUNITY IS A BIG THING IF THEY'LL HELP US WITH THAT.
SO YES, THAT'S LAST NIGHT WHEN THEY CHASED THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT.
THAT'S THE WAY IT PICKED IT UP.
AND THERE WAS WHAT, SIX SIX KIDS IN THERE? YEAH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO THE LPRS YOUNGEST WAS EIGHT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? 10.
THEY'RE WORKING REALLY WELL FOR US AND I THINK IT'S WELL WORTH THE INVESTMENT, ESPECIALLY IF WE UNITY TO HELP US PAY FOR IT.
AND THEN YOU CAN SEE, UH, THE EVIDENCE, UH, THIS DESTRUCTION DEAL.
THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO DO UP BY POUNDS.
WE HAVE TO GET DESTRUCTION ORDER FROM THE JUDGES.
ONCE WE DO THAT, THIS IS WHAT IT'S COSTING AND IT AIN'T CHEAP, BUT I'VE GOTTA KEEP MY EVIDENCE ROOM DONE OR WE GOTTA BUILD MORE ROOM.
UH, I WOULD RATHER CYCLE IT AND GET IT OUT AND INSTEAD OF HAVE TO BUILDING ON.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DO ON THAT.
UH, CLEAR VIEW, FACIAL, ALL THAT STUFF.
THE LEASE IS STILL THE LPR TRAILER THAT WE'RE WORK THAT WE'RE USING AND LEASING TO ON.
SO THAT'S WHAT THAT PRICE IS, HAS MOVED UP.
ANY QUESTIONS OVER? AND ALL THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENT IS BEHIND THAT TOO.
WHEN WE GET TO THE POSITIONS, UH, PRETTY WELL EVERYTHING THERE.
UH, I KINDA ADDED SOME THINKING OF THE NEW COURT AND THE NEW SUBSTATION.
AS OF RIGHT NOW, I'LL GIVE YOU THAT.
I KNOW THE OFFICER WOULDN'T LIKE YOU THAT MUCH.
BUT WHAT WE'RE GONNA NEED OVER THERE IS, UH, A RECORDS SECRETARY TO, TO HANDLE THE DAYDAY.
WE'RE GONNA NEED A C I D SUPERVISOR FOR THAT BUILDING.
AND THEN ALSO I'M ASKING FOR, TO GET MY ANIMAL CONTROL POSITION AT CIVILIAN.
CUZ Y'ALL REMEMBER WHEN WE DID THE FIRE MARSHAL, THEY ONLY GAVE ME ONE POSITION.
SO HE KEPT THE ONE, I MADE A DEPUTY POSITION TO FILL THAT FOR RIGHT NOW.
AND THEN I TOLD YOU I'D COME BACK AND ASK FOR IT THIS YEAR.
AND THEN THE NEW COURTS HAPPENED TO ADD A, A DEPUTY FOR THAT COURT.
ALL I NEED IS, IS ONE FOR BAILIFF, THAT COURT.
SO THAT'S PRETTY WELL WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR POSITIONS IN, UH, ONE 40.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT OR ANY CONCERNS? ANIMAL? THE ANIMAL CONTROL, YOU SAID A DEPUTY.
IT'S, IT'S A CIVILIAN, BUT I HAD TO, I HAD TO UTILIZE A DEPUTY POSITION.
BUT I HAD TO TAKE, TO GET TO, I HAD TO USE A DEPUTY'S POSITION AND JUST PAD AT CIVILIAN PRICING.
DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER SHEET FOR YOUR, UH, JAIL AND YOUR UH, OH, IT'S ALL IN, IN THERE.
SO WE'LL GO TO THE, NOW WE'LL START TO 1 41 DETENTION.
UNLESS ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, OR NOPE.
COMMENTS ABOUT THE ONE 40? HOW'S, UH, RECRUITING GOING? WELL, I WILL TELL YOU, I HAVE THOUGHT OUT THE BOX.
I, Y'ALL HAVE PROBABLY SEEN THAT.
WE, WE'VE EVEN BEEN AT WALMART.
WE'RE SITTING OUT IN FRONT OF, WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE POSSIBLY CAN.
I'VE ONLY NOW INK SIGNING PAYROLL STATUS CLAIMS.
WE'RE NOT GETTING THE APPLICANTS.
EVEN WHEN Y'ALL ALLOWED ME TO DO THE LATERAL, I THOUGHT WE'D GET, I'VE GOT ONE PERSON LATERAL AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, PEOPLE TALKING, OUR BASE PAY IS JUST NOT YEAH.
AND I, WE'LL NEVER MATCH SOME OF THESE CITIES, BUT WE'VE GOTTA GET A LITTLE CLOSER.
I THINK TO BRING IT TO US, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY.
AND WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT AT THE END.
BUT I'M TELLING YOU, JACK'S MOORE, UH, ALL THEM ARE WORKING VERY HARD ON EVERYTHING THEY'RE DOING.
AND WE'RE THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX.
I'VE GOT SOME OTHER STUFF WE'RE FIXING TO ROLL OUT, UH, AND DO ON RECRUITING.
BUT I MEAN, I'VE GOT SIGNS OUT IF Y'ALL HADN'T SEEN ON 1 75.
I MEAN, WE'RE DONE EVERY, WE'RE IN THE PARKING LOT IN FRONT OF ME.
AND THEN, UH, LIKE I SAY, WE'RE TRYING TO HIT THESE OTHER PLACES AND WE'RE GONNA START HITTING SOME OTHER BUSINESS THAT WE CAN GET OUT IN FRONT.
I'VE SEEN SOME DEPARTMENTS ACTUALLY PUTTING THE AD ON THEIR SQUAD CARS.
WE'VE ALREADY GOT, THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE GOT PLANNED.
NO, I'M TELLING YOU, WE'VE GOT PLANS ON OUR BACK WINDOWS TO PUT THAT IN THERE WITH A QR CODE.
WHERE THEY CAN SNAP IT GOING DOWN THE ROAD.
I'M PUTTING IT ON ALL MY TRANSPORTS CARS WHEN THEY'RE GOING.
MAYBE I CAN GET SOMEBODY FROM SOME OTHER COUNTY.
I MEAN, I'M TELLING YOU, I'M THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX.
WELL START PAYING YOU GUYS GUYS DRIVE DOWN THERE.
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YOU'D GET ONE OF THOSE AIRPLANES WITH A SIGN, THE BASH PIGI DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT COST, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF I GOT THE MONEY FOR THAT.
UH, YEAH, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.
WE'RE WE'RE THINKING OUTSIDE OF, HAVE Y'ALL TRIED MAYBE RECRUITING WITH, UH, MILITARY BASES? LIKE TO, CUZ WHEN I COME OUTTA MARINE CORPS, WE'D HAVE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENTS IN LIKE NORTH CAROLINA STATE TROOPERS COME OUT AND DO A SEMINAR, LIKE FOR ALL THE MILITARY GUYS ABOUT TO GET OUT, OFFER 'EM A JOB.
AND A LOT OF THEM GUYS ARE, YOU KNOW, CAUSE THE ATMOSPHERE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT ISN'T GOOD.
NOBODY WANTS TO BE IN ENFORCEMENT ANYMORE.
BUT THE MILITARY GUYS SEEM TO BE RESPONS TO IT.
MAYBE THAT MIGHT BE AN IDEAL MAYBE.
NO, WHEN I, WHEN I CAME OUT, THEY DID THE SAME THING.
THEY CAME DOWN AND, YOU KNOW, CUZ YOU, YOU REACH OUT TO THE MILITARY AND THEY'LL TELL YOU WHEN THEY'RE DISMISSING THIS MANY PEOPLE AND THEY'RE, AND, AND THEY OUTBOUND SO THEY ALL GO THROUGH THE SAME THING AND YOU GO DOWN THERE AND HAVE A CLASS.
I THINK THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT IT.
I KNOW, UH, MOOSE HAS TALKED ABOUT NOT, IT MIGHT HELP.
SO HOODS BIG BAY, IT'S NOT FORT HOOD ANYMORE.
THE OTHER, AS I'VE TOLD, YOU KNOW, I HAVE MEETINGS WITH EVERY DIVISION ONCE A YEAR AND TALK ABOUT, AND THEY, AS I TELL EVERYBODY, IT'S ALL OF US RESPONSIBILITY TO RECRUIT.
I MEAN, WE'VE GOT CARDS WE HAND OUT.
I MEAN WE GOT DISPATCHERS TAKING CARDS THAT SAYS, HEY, YOU LOOK LIKE YOU'D BE A GOOD, HAVE YOUR PERSONALITY.
SO WE HAND CARDS OUT BUSINESS CARDS.
WELL, MY WIFE IS RECRUITING FOR IRVING.
UH, THEY DID, SHE WENT DOWN TO FORT HOOD, WHATEVER IT'S CALLED NOW.
CHANGED THE NAME OF DAY, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY, THEY WENT DOWN THERE AT LEAST TWO TO THREE TIMES A YEAR.
THEY GOT SOME OF THEIR BEST RECRUITS OUT OF THERE.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE STAYING, BUT I WILL FOLLOW UP ON THAT.
CAUSE I'M, LIKE I SAY I'M AN OPEN BOOK.
LIKE I TOLD THEM, IT'S ALL OF OUR RESPONSIBILITY.
IF ANYBODY COMES WITH THE IDEA, TEE IT TO ME CUZ I AM OPEN BOOK.
SO HOW MANY OF YOU SHARP IN THE JAIL? UH, I GOTTA GET BACK HERE, UH, 12 IN THE JAIL AND I'LL, I'LL GIVE YOU THE OTHER NUMBER REAL QUICK WHERE YOU KNOW, AND NINE IN DISPATCH.
AND THEN, AND THEN ALSO WHEN YOU LOOK, UH, WHEN THEY GOT POSITIONS OF THAT, THE NEXT PAGE ON THERE KIND OF GAVE YOU A BROKE DOWN, UH, ON THE COUNTIES AND WHERE THEY'RE AT.
AND WHERE THEIR PAY IS TO KIND OF GIVE YOU THAT A ASPECT ON IT.
GOT A QUESTION BACK ON YOUR JAIL EXPENSE.
IS THAT KIND OF HOLDING STEADY OR ARE WE SEEING INCREASE THE WELL THAT'S, IF YOU NOTICE, AND WE'LL GO BACK TO THAT, BUT I'M JUST SAYING IF YOU, WHEN Y'ALL GET A CHANCE AND LOOK IN THE POSITIONS OF EACH DIVISION MM-HMM.
AND THAT GIVES YOU A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE WE'RE AT IN CALLS FOR SERVICE.
BUT BACK TO THE JAIL EXPERIENCE, I'VE LEFT THAT HIGHLIGHTED AND PUT THAT THERE.
UH, USUALLY WE HAVE A, A CPI THAT GOES UP, BUT THAT IS GONE OUT FOR RFP.
SO I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GONNA BE.
SO THAT'S WHY I PUT IN A MILLION DOLLARS CUZ LAST YEAR IT WAS 9 74, 3 41.
I'M JUST ASKING, I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE MORE THAN THAT.
EVERYTHING HOUSE IS INCREASING.
BUT I, I KIND OF FIGURED OUT THE GUESS OF WHAT IT WENT UP FROM THE YEAR BEFORE TO THAT.
YOU NOTICE THE YEAR BEFORE IT WAS 9 69 AND USING THE CPI IT WENT TO 9 74.
SO I SAID WITH THE GROWTH, I'M GONNA JUST PUT A MILLION TO BE SAFE.
AND HOPEFULLY, I'M HOPING WE'LL HAVE A GOOD BIDDING PROCESS AND MAYBE IT'LL GO DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
MAYBE WE'LL GET SOME HEALTHIER PRISONERS.
SO THAT WAS A BIG THE THINGS AND KINDA WHAT WENT ON THAT ONE.
AS YOU GO DOWN THE LINE, INMATE CLOTHING, WE, WE DROPPED IT A LITTLE BIT.
UH, JANITOR SUPPLIES THE COPIER.
SINCE WE'VE REDONE THE BID ON THE COPIER, I LOWERED IT BY 5,000.
UH, LITTLE THINGS WE HAVE DROPPED IT THAT WE HAVE NOTICED THAT WE'RE NOT USING AT ALL.
BUT SOME THINGS HAS, HAS LOWERED IN THAT.
AND THEN THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT THAT'S ALSO BROKE OUT AND YOU NOTICE IT, IT'S WENT UP A LITTLE BIT AND WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT GARBAGE PICKUP.
AFTER WE WORKED WITH THAT, UH, CONTRACT AND GETTING THAT DOWN, IT WENT DOWN.
SO, AND THEN EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT THAT DROPPED BECAUSE WE'VE KIND OF BOUGHT EVERYTHING, BUT THE ONLY ONE THING THAT WE HAVE TO REPLACE, AND I MIGHT TRY TO DO THIS, UH, WITH Y'ALL'S APPROVAL, TRY TO PULL SOME SALARY MONEY IN THERE.
THAT GRINDER, WE HAVE TO HAVE A GRINDER FOR THE SEWER LINE FROM THE JAIL.
YOU KNOW, THE ONE THEY RUN OVER LIKE THREE OR FOUR TIMES AND WE, WELL IT'S OUT.
SO I GOTTA GET THAT PLACE BY COAL UNDERNEATH THE CITY.
SO, AND THAT'S, AS YOU SEE, $85,500 FOR A GRINDER.
THAT YOU GOTTA HAVE, SO, SO IT'S, IT'S REALLY A DROP IN THE BUDGET IS 2.43 FROM LAST YEAR.
SO YOU GO THE I THE ITEMIZE OF THE MAINTENANCE AND CONTRACT INSPECTIONS, THAT'LL BE YOUR THIRD BROWN TAB.
UH, YOU CAN NOTICE THAT, UH, THINGS THAT HAVE WENT UP THAT ARE, ARE
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GUARDIAN, UH, IT WENT FROM 19 TO 28 IS A PRETTY GOOD INCREASE.BUT THE REASON I CAN TELL YOU THE MAIN INCREASE IN THAT WAS WHEN WE WENT TO A SUPERVISOR PART OF THAT TOO, THIS IS OUR TIMEKEEPING SYSTEM THAT WE'RE MANDATED NOT TO HAVE THIS, BUT WE HAVE TO MANDATE OUR JAIL SET CHECKS ON EACH INMATE FOR EITHER 30 OR OUR PIPE CHASING ALL THIS KEEPS UP WITH IT.
BUT ALSO WE DID THE SUPERVISOR DEAL IF SOMETHING IS MISSED OR NOT TAGGED, IT AUTOMATICALLY DOES ALL THE SUPERVISOR AND THEN BREAKS IT ALL DOWN.
SO IT'S THE MAINTENANCE PROCESS OF IT THAT HELPS US CATCH IT, UH, BEFORE WE GET IN VIOLATION.
AND I JUST THINK, YOU KNOW, WITH THE DAYS, TIMES, AND THE HIGH RISK OF INMATES, I'D RATHER HEAR OUR ERROR ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING AHEAD OF IT WHERE WE DON'T HAVE A JAIL AND NONCOMPLIANCE.
THE HOLBERT EQUIPMENT, Y'ALL GOTTA REMEMBER WE ALSO ADDED A BRAND NEW DISHWASHER LAST YEAR.
SO THAT MADE THE MAINTENANCE GO UP JUST A LITTLE BIT.
OUR LANGUAGE LINE IN WHICH WE'RE USING A LOT OF MORE LANGUAGE LINE NOW THAN WE HAVE.
THERE'S QUOTES AND ALL THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS BEHIND THAT.
UH, WE'RE USING A LOT MORE IN THAT, THAT HAS WENT UP.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THAT.
UH, THE WEB, UH, X IS WHAT WE USE FOR THE INMATES AND THEIR ATTORNEYS THAT WE HAVE TO APPLY FOR THEM IF THEY CAN'T COME OUT.
AND THEN, UH, THE JUSTICE CENTER, THE INSPECTION FOR THE JAIL SIDE, UH, I HAD TO ADD THAT COST IN FOR, FOR US WITH THE SALES AND EVERYTHING OVER THERE.
AND THEN THE, THE FRESHWORKS IS OUR TICKETING SOFTWARE SYSTEM FOR THE WHOLE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
WE HAVE THAT TICKET THAT AWAY WHEN SOMEBODY PUTS IN TICKET, THEN I KNOW HOW FAST IT'S FIXED OR NOT FIXED OR IF THEY'RE WAITING ON PARTS AND ALL THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS AND STUFF IS BEHIND THAT.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? NO, NOT REALLY.
I GUESS WE'LL GO TO THE 9 1 1 CENTER.
DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, JUDGE ON ANYTHING ELSE? NO SIR.
I'VE ALREADY LOOKED AT THAT IN HERE.
LIKE I SAY, THE GUARDIAN IS A BIG, BIG EXPENSE ON THAT MAINTENANCE DEAL AND RIGHT.
THAT'S CAUSE WE DID THE SOFTWARE STUFF ON IT.
UH, THE OTHER THING IS MOVING UP MILE MY MILL MILES AND THE LODGING, UH, WE HAD TO MOVE THAT UP, WHICH EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT THAT.
THE RADIO CONTRACT, UH, MAINTENANCE, WHICH IS WHAT WE PAY EVERY YEAR, THAT GOES UP A LITTLE BIT.
UH, AND THEN THE EQUIPMENT, WE'VE GOTTA HAVE, UH, IT'S GONNA BE END OF LIFE FOR SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT FOR THE BATTERIES IN WHICH THE QUOTE IS BACK BEHIND THAT, UH, OF WHAT WE'VE GOTTA HAVE TO REPLACE A BUNCH OF BATTERY BACKUP STUFF THROUGHOUT THE RADIO SYSTEM.
AND THEN THE SAME THING POSITIONS, EVERYTHING OPENING NINE, NOTHING HAS CHANGED ON THAT.
AND THEN THE FEDERAL, UH, AND ALL THE FORFEITURE STUFF IS PRETTY WELL THE SAME AND EASY STUFF THAT WE, WE NORMALLY DON'T GET INTO THAT.
IF YOU WANT TO, WE'LL BE MORE GLAD TO, BUT IT'S, IT'S ALL PRETTY WELL THE SAME.
ANYTHING ANYHOW WHEN WE DO THAT, AS FAR AS UH, PERSONNEL ACROSS THE BOARD, Y'ALL SEEN WHERE, UH, HIGHLIGHTED AS FAR AS SALARIES AND STUFF AND ONCE AGAIN I'M ASKING FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND UH, EVERYBODY OVER THERE IF WE CAN LOOK AT SOMEWHAT, AND I'VE PUT A PRICE IN THERE, 5,000 ACROSS THE BOARD.
UH, THE NUMBER I HAVE PUT IN THERE IS JUST THE NUMBER WITHOUT ALL THE STUFF.
KAREN AND THEM HAS BEEN REALLY BUSY THAT COULDN'T REALLY HELP ME WITH SOME OF THE DEALS.
AND I TRULY UNDERSTAND WHAT THERAN THE EVERYTHING.
SO THAT'S JUST A VERY ROUGH NUMBER.
BUT WE, YOU'VE GOTTA INCLUDE, UH, ALL THE PERCENTAGES AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOES WITH THAT.
SO THAT NUMBER IS NOT A TRUE ACCURATE NUMBER.
IT IS A CLOSE NUMBER, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT A PERCENTAGE OF THAT WOULD BE.
WHAT WOULD A PERCENTAGE OF THAT BE? NORMALLY ABOUT A 25%.
I THINK THAT'S NORMALLY ABOUT A 25.
SO IF YOU DID 25% OF THAT, USUALLY YOU CATCH THE COST OF THE ABOUT SEVEN 50 THEN.
SO WHAT'D WE GET YOUR BASE PAY UP TO NOW FOR YOUR DEPUTY? RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT 55.
BUT GONE ADD FIVE, THAT MEANS IT, IT WOULD MOVE IT TO 60.
HOW CLOSE DOES THAT GET US TO SURROUNDING, IF YOU WILL? LOOK, THE BIGGEST ONE IS THE CITIES RIGHT NOW.
IF YOU'LL LOOK ON POSITIONS OF THE PATROL AND LOOK ON THAT BACK PAGE, YOU'LL SEE HENDERSON COUNTY STARTS AT 54 3 48.
WHAT TAB OR THAT'S CALLED, IT'S IT'S POSITION THE VERY LAST PURPLE 42 AND THEN FLIP RIGHT BEHIND DEAL.
BUT YOU CAN SEE CALLS FOR SERVICE WHAT THEY HAVE.
I JUST COUNTED THE COUNTIES AROUND US AND THEN I BROKE
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DOWN THE PDS THAT WE'RE ALSO DEALING WITH.SEE DALLAS COUNTY IS AT 63 ROCKWELL'S AT 66 ELLIS COUNTY 61.
UH, AND THEN YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE POPULAR, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A ROUGH GROUP OF THE WHOLE THINGS OF WHAT'S GOING ON AND THEN THE CALLS FOR SERVICE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE THAT THEIR STEP GETS IN THERE PRETTY QUICK TO TOP PAY YES.
WHAT WE SAID ON LAST TIME, 12 YEARS.
WELL THEY'RE GETTING 2000 EVERY YEAR AND THAT THAT'S HELPED RETAIN YEAH.
THAT, THAT HAS HELPED RETAINED, I PROMISE YOU.
UH, THE ONLY BIG THING IS JUST LIKE I TOLD PEOPLE NOW THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE TALKING TO US, I SAID, WELL, LET ME TELL YOU THIS MUCH RIGHT NOW.
THERE'S NO MONEY TO DO LATERALS ALL DOWN THE YEAR, SO MM-HMM.
WELL I'D LIKE TO SEE US GET THAT PAY UP THERE.
I THINK THAT'D BE A BIG HELP AT THE 60.
BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, WE PROBABLY CAN'T DO IT THIS YEAR.
MAYBE NEXT YEAR OR A COUPLE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.
I'D LIKE TO SHORTEN THAT TIME ON THE STEP PAY.
CAUSE OTHER DEPARTMENTS ARE SHORTER THAN OURS.
SO, AND RIGHT NOW, I MEAN THE ACADEMIES, OUR NUMBERS ARE IMPROVING IT A LITTLE BIT.
NOTHING NEAR WHAT THEY USED TO BE.
UH, BUT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING UH, TO IS IF WE CAN JUST GET SOMEWHAT CLOSE AND HAVE THE, THE BENEFITS THAT WE HAVE A GOOD WORK ENVIRONMENT.
THE THE BIG THING ABOUT COUNTIES AND ANYBODY TELL YOU THIS COUNTIES WORK, THERE'S NOT A DOUBT ABOUT IT.
CITIES DO WORK, BUT IT'S NOT THE CALL VOLUME AND THE HANDLING THE STUFF THAT WE HAVE TO DO AT THE COUNTY LEVEL.
I THINK ANOTHER NUMBER IT'D BE INTERESTING TO SEE IS HOW MANY MILES Y'ALL PUT ON A CAR.
OH, I CAN VERSUS CAN GIVE YOU PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE PERCENT OF WHAT WE DO.
I GUARANTEE YOU THE NUMBERS AND AND THE GOOD THING THAT, THAT WE'RE DOING TOO, IN WHICH WE'VE PUT IN THE LEASE DEAL TO ADD EIGHT CARS TO HELP US.
BECAUSE I'M TELLING YOU, TAKE HOME CARS IS A BIG THING FOR US.
AND THAT'S IF WE WON'T, IF WE CAN GET SOMEWHAT CLOSE TO THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT TAKE HOME CAR TAKES A LOT MM-HMM.
AND PLUS ONE PERSON DRIVING A CAR, Y'ALL KNOW HOW THAT IS.
SPEAKING OF TAKE HOME CARS, HOW FAR OUTSIDE THE COUNTY DO YOU LET THEM GO IN A TAKE HOME CAR OR IS THERE ADJOINING COUNTY AND THEY HAVE TO BE FAIRLY CLOSE AND WE APPROVE THAT ON A BASE.
AND WE JUST STARTED THAT JUST TO KEEP SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT WAS TALKING ABOUT LEAVING
SO WE HAVE HAD TAKE HOME CARS IN THE COUNTY FOR THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF MM-HMM.
WE DON'T GO OUTSIDE ADJOINING COUNTIES.
UH, MAYBE YOU CAN RECOMMEND SOMETHING EVERY YEAR I WAS SENT COPIES OF THE CERTIFICATION SO I KNOW WHAT EACH PERSON WAS SUPPOSED TO BE CERTIFIED AT.
I'M IN TROUBLE GETTING THOSE NOW.
AND I THINK WHAT I'M GONNA DO IS I, WE'VE ASKED, AND I'M GOING TO PROBABLY LET THE DEPARTMENT HEAD MAKE ME A LIST AND I'M GONNA HAVE YOU, BUT I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO SWEAR AN OATH IF THOSE ARE CORRECT, WHAT SHOULD BE SENT TO YOU IS WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT'S A PROBLEM.
UH, BECAUSE T CODE SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T GO AND GET RE-CERTIFIED THEN THEY DON'T DESERVE THAT PAY.
AND AND WE'LL NEVER SEND SOMEBODY OVER HERE UNLESS THERE'S DOCUMENTS SUPPORTING IT.
AND YOU, WE'VE ALWAYS SENT A SUPPORTING DOCUMENT.
BUT TO THINK, BUT I HAVE OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT THEY GET CERTIFICATION PAID TOO.
AND I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHAT WOULD BE A GOOD APPROACH TO HANDLE IT.
BECAUSE I'VE GOTTA VERIFY THE GOOD APPROACH.
PUT THAT IN THE, THE GOOD APPROACH IS YOU SHOULD HAVE THEIR T O FRONT DEAL SAYING WHAT CERTIFICATE THEY GOT IT AND WHEN THEY GOT IT.
CUZ THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN SENDING OVER IS THE TCO DEAL.
CUZ IT TELLS US ON EACH LICENSE THEY GOT THIS LICENSE THIS TIME, THIS TIME AND THIS TIME.
THAT'S THE TRUE LICENSE HOLDER.
AND IF YOU DON'T GET THAT, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD GET IT TRUE.
IF THEY DON'T, THEN THEY DON'T.
I'VE ASKED FOR IT AND I HAVEN'T GOT 'EM YET.
NO, I I THINK YOU GOTTA HAVE THAT AND LET, AND WHICH WE KNOW IT'S NOT FAIR TO THE EMPLOYEE THAT SENT IT.
BUT THEN I'M NOT GETTING THE COPIES TO VERIFY AND CERTIFY THE PAYROLLS.
THE, THE THING ABOUT THAT IS, AND WHICH WE ALL KNOW CUZ I'LL HIRE SOMEBODY, LET ME JUST USE SCOTT WHITAKER THAT COME OVER.
HE WAS HERE, HE'S ALREADY GOT HIS MASTER'S, BUT GUESS WHAT? HE DON'T GET IT RIGHT UP FRONT AFTER HIS YEAR.
THE PROTOCOL AND EVERYTHING WE'VE SAID IS AFTER A YEAR, THEN HE GETS THE FIRST ONE, THE SECOND ONE, THEN THE THIRD ONE.
SO EVERY TIME WE DO THAT, I'LL SEND THE T
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COLE DEAL GOING, HEY THIS IS IT, THIS IS, WE'RE HIGHLIGHTING AND HE GETS THIS ONE HIGHLIGHTING.WHY IS THE AUDITOR ALWAYS INVOLVED IN EVERYTHING? YOU CONTROL THE MONEY.
CAUSE I'M SUPPOSED TO BE GOOD.
YOU THE PAYCHECK BETTER MAKE HER HAPPY.
HEY, HEY SEE THAT'LL BE CALLING YOU.
YEAH, I MEAN I'VE GOT THE CODE BEHIND ME IF THEY NEED THERE'S 100% I'M WITH YOU.
UNLESS Y'ALL HAVE QUESTIONS FOR ME GUYS, ANY QUESTIONS? YOU ALWAYS PUT TOGETHER A GOOD BUDGET.
I THINK THIS TIME YOU DIDN'T PUT IN SO MY TOTALS ARE WRONG.
WELL I DIDN'T PUT SALARY CAUSE EVERYTHING WAS IN A YEAH.
UH, I HAD TO PUT THAT NUMBER AND YOU COULDN'T GIMME THE TRUE NUMBER.
SO I DIDN'T REALLY WANT.DOT DO TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE IT'S MY FAULT.
IT'S JUST BRINGING YOUR ATTENTION THAT THIS IS A REALLY ROUGH NUMBER AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS,
AND I KNOW Y'ALL NEED THAT NUMBER, SO I'M RELYING ON A GREAT AUDITOR AND HER STAFF CAN GIVE THAT TO US.
SO OTHER THAN THAT, THE ONLY OTHER THING WE'RE DOING IS I, I KNOW THE BODY CAM AND ALL THE CAM STUFF IS, YOU KNOW, OUR SYSTEM IS MET THE END OF LIFE.
ALL WE'RE DOING IS GOING TO CUSTOMS. WE FOUND THAT TO BE THE BEST DEAL.
SO WE'RE JUST MIGRATING TO THAT.
WE'VE GOT THEM TO AGREE TO SUPPORT.
SO WE'LL MIGRATE THAT OVER SEVERAL YEARS.
AND I'M NOT GONNA JUMP IN THERE.
WE CAN'T AFFORD TO JUMP IN THERE AS UH, I'M TRYING TO DO THE BEST THAT WE CAN, BUT WE WILL MIGRATE TO IT.
AND MY STAFF AND THE DEPUTIES ON THE STREET FOR THE ONES THAT PICKED THIS SYSTEM UP OVER, WE GET YOU DON'T HAVE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY.
I'LL CHANGE THE WHOLE THING ANYWAY.
AND TECHNOLOGY IS OUR BIGGEST BEAST.
YOU KNOW, YOU JUST CAN'T, I DON'T KNOW HOW ANYBODY KEEPS UP WITH IT.
I HAVE TO NO, BUT I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST HARD.
TOO EXPENSIVE AND YOU DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF MONEY TO JUST JUMP OUT THERE AND KEEP UP WITH IT EVERY DAY THAT IT HAPPENS.
OUR BIGGEST DEAL IS TRYING TO STAY, UH, WHAT'S THE BEST PRACTICES ON, ON INVESTIGATIONS AND THE EQUIPMENT WE USE.
SO AS LONG AS WE STAY IN THE BEST PRACTICES AND IF THIS SURVIVES IT FOR A WHILE, WE'LL WE'LL HOLD IT FOR A WHILE.
AND HOPEFULLY THIS CAMERA SYSTEM WILL STAY THERE A WHILE.
I DON'T HAVE TO HAVE TO HAVE THE CADILLAC.
IF THAT VOLKSWAGEN WILL WORK FOR ME, I'LL DRIVE THE VOLKSWAGEN.
I'D LIKE SEEING I'LL, I'LL DRIVE.
YOU GOTTA HAVE ONE WITH SUNROOF CAUSE THE HEAD'S GOING STICK OUT.
THE BUBBLE HAD A LITTLE BUBBLE ON.
LOOK LIKE A COMING DOWN THE ROAD.
QUESTIONS? ANY CONCERNS? YEAH.
I'M A I'M VERY TRANSPARENT WHEN IT COMES TO THIS BUDGET AND I WANT YOU TO, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
WELL LIKE I SAY, ALL THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS IS, IS WITH YOU, SO.
APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO FOR US.
I DON'T GO THAT HIGH BACK OF THE BOOK.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO HELP HIM.
WHAT'S HE GOING PULL IT UP THE WRONG SAID, SAID I DON'T GO THAT HOUSE.
GOTTA REALIZE ALL HIS ESTATE MONEY.
THANK YOU Y'ALL FOR HAVING US.
I APPRECIATE IT AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
UM, THE ONLY, UH, AMENDMENT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, PROPOSE, UH, IS LAST YEAR I HAD CUT DOWN FROM FULL-TIME STAFF TO PART-TIME STAFF.
UM, I WAS UNAWARE I LOST ABOUT SOME HR STAFF, SO I NEED TO MOVE ONE FULL-TIME PERSON BACK INTO A FULL-TIME POSITION AND THEN JUST LEAVE OPEN, UM, A PART-TIME POSITION.
UH, SO THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY CHANGE TO THE ADOPTED BUDGET WOULD BE TO, UH, GO BACK TO, UH, CHANGING ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE FROM PART-TIME TO FULL-TIME, UH, SO THAT WE'RE NOT, UH, CROSSING OVER HR RULES WITH USING PART-TIME STAFF OVER HOURS TOO MUCH.
UM, AND PART OF THAT HAD TO DO WITH, I'VE HAD, UH, TWO FULL-TIME WORKERS, SO THAT'S 80 HOURS A WEEK THAT HAVE BEEN OFF ON F M L A AND THEN I HAD ANOTHER PERSON.
ANYWAY, LONG STORY, BUT IT JUST GOT COMPLICATED, UNEXPECTED.
BUT IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE BEST IF WE OPEN BACK UP ONE, MOVE THAT PART-TIME TO A FULL-TIME AND THEN THAT WAY I WON'T HAVE TO GO OVER
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HOURS AND CROSS THAT.BUT THAT WOULD CHANGE THE LINE ITEM BUDGET ON THOSE TWO A LITTLE.
AND SO THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY, UH, CHANGE THAT WE NEED TO DO, UH, IF THAT, IF I GET YOUR APPROVAL ON THAT, UH, TO MOVE FORWARD THAT WAY.
AND THERE AGAIN, THE REASON WE NEED TOS CUZ I'M HAVING TO USE PART-TIME WORKERS TOO MANY HOURS.
WHICH CROSSES OVER HR RULES, SO.
AND THERE AGAIN, WE'RE KI WE'RE ONE OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS LIKE THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, WE'RE THERE AT 24 7, 365.
YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO HAVE PEOPLE THERE AND THE STATE'S IN STATED ALL THESE NEW RULES.
I HAVE TO HAVE TWO PEOPLE THERE AT NIGHT AND THEY HAVE TO BE AWAKE.
IT'S NOT LIKE THEY GET THE REST OR SLEEP.
UM, SO LIKE I SAY, IT'S HARDER TO FIND THAT NOW.
UM, THAT JUST WAS INSTALLED ABOUT A YEAR AGO.
UH, USED TO, YOU KNOW, NIGHTTIME STAFF WOULD COME WHEN THE KIDS WENT TO BED, THEY COULD REST.
AND THE STATE SHOWS UP ABOUT EVERY FOUR TO SIX WEEKS, JUST UNEXPECTED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.
REALLY? THEY WERE HERE LAST NIGHT AT ONE 30.
UH, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE FOLLOWING THOSE GUIDELINES, WHICH I CAN'T RING THE DOORBELL, HUH.
UH, AND I, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.
I HAVE TO HAVE TWO PEOPLE THERE EVERY NIGHT AWAKE.
AND SO FINDING THOSE PEOPLE IS, UH, A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT THAN, UH, YOU MIGHT THINK SO.
SO, UM, BUT ANY QUESTIONS? UH, WHAT Y'ALL THINK COMMENTS, UH, WHAT IS THAT SALARY? DO YOU HAVE IT, KAREN? THE SALARY THAT WOULD BE, HE'S ASKING FOR NO, BUT HIS, HIS MONEY COMES FROM THE STATE FOUNDATION.
IT'S SO IT'S NOT COUNTING MONEY.
I MEAN, OUR FOUNDATION COVERS IT AND STATE COVERS PART OF IT, BUT FOUNDATION COMES UP WITH EVERYTHING ELSE.
IT'S MONEY FOR THE FOOD, THE MEALS AND STUFF.
RIGHT NOW, SOMETIMES AT THE END OF THE YEAR, THE GENERAL FUND LOANS HIM SOME MONEY SO HE'S NOT IN A DEFICIT.
CUZ I CAN'T HAVE ANY BANK ACCOUNTS IN THE DEFICIT.
BUT THEN THE FOUNDATION ALWAYS COMES UP AND HELPS US AND PASS IT BACK.
I THINK THAT'S A GOOD, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
I JUDGE, I AM LISTENING AND I'M JUST LISTENING.
IT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE NEVER HEARD HER INPUT, YOU KNOW, IDEAS.
YEAH, SHE'S ALWAYS GOT SOME YOU BETTER GO AHEAD AND LEAVE NOW.
WE APPRECIATE WHAT DAVID DOES, SO YES, WE DO.
DON'T TELL WISH EVERYBODY WAS THAT QUICK.
QUICK WHEN YOUR EYES FOR THE MONEY, UH, WHO'S NEXT? PAUL AIRS FIRE MARSHAL.
WHO? OH, YOU WANNA TALK SOME MORE? NO,
WHILE KAREN'S HERE MIGHT BE GOOD TOO TO TALK ABOUT.
WE'RE GONNA TAKE ABOUT A OKAY.
ALL WHAT PAGE? WE ALL RIGHT, WHAT PAGE ARE WE? WE'VE DIGRESSED.
WHAT PAGE WE ON? I TOLD YOU THAT BEFORE WE LEFT.
ALL THAT SAYS IS THE FIRE MARSHALS, BUT PROPOSAL HE WOULD BE ON, UH, PAGE.
ALL RIGHT, WHAT YOU THINK? 52.
OKAY, MR. POWELL, WE'RE GOING RIGHT AHEAD.
UM, SO, UH, JUST TO RECAP THE THINGS IN THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE, WE'RE DOING PLAN INTERVIEW INSPECTIONS, INVESTIGATIONS, UH, RECENTLY WE'VE KIND OF BEEN HELPING OUT WITH ENVIRONMENTAL CRIMES.
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IF THE ENVIRONMENTAL INVESTIGATORS HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S FELONY LEVEL OR SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT, UH, WE'RE TRYING TO UP OUR, UM, IMPACT WITH PUBLIC EDUCATION.WE'RE ABOUT TO SEND CHRISTIE TO PUBLIC EDUCATOR SCHOOL, UH, FOR A WEEK AND SHE CAN HELP.
WHAT WOULD SHE DO WITH THAT? UH, SO BASICALLY WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET INTO THE SCHOOLS MORE, COORDINATE WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS MORE, AND, UM, ALSO ATTEND THESE COMMUNITY EVENTS, PUT UP A TENT, MAKE SURE WE HAVE A PRESENCE AT THOSE.
UM, AS WELL AS SUPPORTING FIRE DEPARTMENT TRAINING AND OPERATIONS.
UH, LAST FIRE CHIEFS MEETING, WE HAD A REQUEST FOR LIKE HAZMAT AWARENESS, HAZMAT OPS TRAINING.
SO, UH, JUST TRYING TO BE A LITTLE BIT BETTER ABOUT PROVIDING THAT TO HIM.
DO YOU DO THAT OR DOES TEAKS COME IN AND DO THAT? OR TEAKS, TM CAN COME IN AND DO THAT.
SO I THINK, UH, CASEY VAN WITH EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT JUST SENT A LINK OUT FOR THE AWARENESS CLASS.
PROBLEM IS IF WE CAN ACTUALLY MAKE THAT CLASS, AND IT HAS TO BE A TIME THAT VOLUNTEERS CAN ACTUALLY ATTEND.
UH, KIND OF WHAT OUR WORKLOAD LOOKS LIKE.
UH, WE HAD 782 CALLS FOR SERVICE FOR THE INVESTIGATIONS DIVISION LAST YEAR.
UH, THE BIG CHALLENGE FOR US IS THAT 70% OF THOSE ARE AFTER HOURS, WEEKENDS, AND HOLIDAYS.
AND SO OUR COMP TIME FOR ON-CALL INVESTIGATORS IS SKYROCKETING.
UH, WE HAVE INVESTIGATORS THAT ARE MAXING OUT THEIR COMP TIME WITHIN SIX MONTHS OF EMPLOYMENT WITH US.
UM, SO THEY'RE HAVING TO TAKE THAT TIME OFF TO KEEP THAT BELOW THAT MAXIMUM.
UM, A LITTLE BIT OF EXPLANATION ABOUT WHAT WE DO WHEN WE RESPOND TO THE SCENE IMMEDIATELY.
UM, OBVIOUSLY WE ASSIST WITH ANY IMMEDIATE LIFE SAFETY CONCERNS.
UH, BUT ON THE INVESTIGATION SIDE, WE TAKE PHOTOGRAPHS OF FIREFIGHTING OPERATIONS.
UH, WE GET WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER OR THE TENANT, GET THAT CONSENT TO SEARCH.
WE INTERVIEW WITNESSES, COLLECT MEDIA FROM WITNESSES AND ANY SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS, UH, AND THEN PRESERVE AND COLLECT ANY EVIDENCE THAT WE NEED TO WHILE WE'RE THERE.
UM, THAT ALL HAPPENS 24 HOURS A DAY.
UH, ANYTIME WE RESPOND OUT, UM, THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN ON EVERY SCENE.
THERE'S A LOT OF FOLLOW UP WORK, THOUGH, THAT COMES DURING NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS.
UM, WE'RE GONNA BE COORDINATING WITH THE INSURANCE COMPANY.
WE MAY GO BACK OUT TO THE SCENE ONCE IT'S COOLED OFF AND WATER'S DRAINED OUT OF IT TO DIG IT OUT.
UH, TAKE MORE PHOTOGRAPHS, DRAW DIAGRAMS, UH, WE'LL DO A CANINE SEARCH DURING THAT TIME.
UH, WE GOTTA SUBMIT EVIDENCE TO LABS, UH, GET SEARCH AND ARREST WARRANTS, ALL KINDS OF STUFF THAT HAPPENS DURING NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS.
UM, WORKLOAD FOR PLAN INTERVIEWS.
SO, UH, I KNOW LAST TIME I GAVE AN UPDATE WE WERE AT ABOUT 85 BUILDING PERMITS.
AS WE'VE BEEN ENTERING STUFF INTO OUR NEW SOFTWARE, WE REALIZED THAT THERE WAS ONE BUILDING PERMIT AND IT COULD BE ANYWHERE FROM 15 TO 62 BUILDINGS UNDER THAT ONE BUILDING PERMIT.
SO AS WE'VE BEEN ENTERING THINGS IN, WE ACTUALLY HAVE 221, UH, PERMITS FOR NEW BUILDINGS, NEW INDIVIDUAL BUILDINGS, AND 64 ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION PERMITS FOR SYSTEMS AND EQUIPMENTS.
THAT'S GONNA BE LIKE FIRE SPRINKLERS, FIRE ALARMS, THINGS ON THOSE LINES.
SO A LOT OF WORKLOAD ON THE, UH, PLAN INTERVIEW SIDE.
THE CHALLENGE WE'RE HAVING RIGHT NOW IS MEETING THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENT TO GET THOSE PLAN INTERVIEWS DONE WITHIN 30 DAYS.
UM, IF IT GOES BEYOND THAT 30 DAYS, IT IS AUTOMATICALLY APPROVED WITHOUT REVIEW.
SO WE, WE HAVE TO BEAT THAT CHALLENGE.
UM, OF COURSE ALL THOSE, UH, NEW BUILDS NEED INSPECTIONS.
UM, OUR GOAL, UH, IS TO HAVE AN INSPECTOR MAKING CONTACT WITH THAT CONTRACTOR, THAT SUPERINTENDENT AT LEAST EVERY THREE WEEKS TO A MONTH, SOMEWHERE IN THAT RANGE.
UH, ANYBODY THAT'S BUILT KNOWS THAT COMMUNICATION WITH YOUR BUILDING OFFICIALS IS REALLY IMPORTANT DURING THAT.
SO, UH, WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE ON TOP OF THAT FOR ANNUAL INSPECTIONS.
RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PERSONNEL TO DO ALL ANNUAL INSPECTIONS, AND SO WE'RE PRIORITIZING WITH SCHOOLS AND LICENSED FACILITIES.
UM, OF COURSE WE WOULD LIKE TO INCREASE THAT NUMBER.
UH, AND THAT'S PART OF OUR PROPOSAL, UH, SO THAT WE CAN START DOING ANNUAL INSPECTIONS AT ALL OF THE FACILITIES THAT ARE COMMERCIAL UNCOMFORTABLE.
YOU DESCRIBE, UH, LICENSED FACILITY TO ME.
SO LICENSED FACILITY WOULD BE LIKE A DAYCARE, UM, AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY, NURSING HOMES, UH, ANYTHING THAT HAS TO BE LICENSED THROUGH THE STATE, UH, DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SERVICES TO DO THEIR BUSINESS.
UH, SO THE, THE ASK THAT I'M, UH, PROPOSING HERE IN THE BUDGET OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND, I'M ASKING FOR A, AN ADDITIONAL FULL-TIME INVESTIGATOR, UH, AND AN ADDITIONAL, UH, INSPECTOR OUTTA THE FIRE CODE FUND.
I WOULD LIKE TO ADD FOUR PART-TIME INSPECTORS.
UH, AND THERE'S SOME LINE ITEM INCREASES FOR SAFETY EQUIPMENT, COMPUTER EQUIPMENT, AND CANINE OPERATING EXPENSES THAT I'LL GET INTO HERE.
SO, UH, THE FULL-TIME INVESTIGATOR POSITION THAT I'M ASKING FOR, UM, IF WE GET THIS POSITION, WE CAN MOVE TOWARDS A 24 HOUR ON DUTY INVESTIGATOR, WHICH IS REALLY GONNA HELP US WITH THE COMP TIME ISSUE.
UM, WE PAY THEM FOR THE 52 HOURS
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AVERAGE BETWEEN THE TWO WEEKS THAT THEY WOULD BE WORKING.UM, THEY'RE ON SITE HERE IN KAUFMAN AND GOOD CENTRAL LOCATION.
AND AS SOON AS THE THE FIRE COMES IN, THEY CAN RESPOND OUT IMMEDIATELY TO THAT.
UH, DURING NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS, THEY WOULD STILL BE WORKING ON REPORTS, DOING THEIR INTERVIEWS, DOING ALL THAT FOLLOW UP WORK THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY.
UH, AND OF COURSE IF THERE'S NOT ENOUGH WORKLOAD THERE, UH, WE ALWAYS HAVE THE FALLBACK OF HELPING WITH ANNUAL INSPECTIONS.
UM, SO THIS WOULD BE KIND OF A MULTIFACETED POSITION, BUT IT WOULD, UH, BE A HUGE BENEFIT FOR US TO MOVE TO AN ON-DUTY INVESTIGATOR INSTEAD OF ON-CALL.
UM, DURING WILDFIRES, THE WILDFIRE SEASON, BURN BANDS, FIREWORK SALES PERIOD, WE GET INUNDATED WITH, UH, JUST THE AMOUNT OF CALLS THAT WE'RE GETTING.
AND, UH, IT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE.
I'LL, I'LL SAY THAT, UH, LAST YEAR ABOUT THIS TIME, UM, THERE WAS A WEEK THAT I SPENT ABOUT HALF OF A MEAL WITH MY WIFE.
UM, THE REST OF IT WE WERE EITHER SLEEPING OR GOING TO CALLS
UM, AND THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN EVERY WEEK, BUT I WILL SAY THE WEEKS, UH, OUTSIDE OF THAT, EVERY NIGHT YOU'RE GETTING A CALL TO WAKE UP AND GO OUT TO A FIRE.
SO, UH, WE JUST WANNA KIND OF BALANCE THAT WORK-LIFE BALANCE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.
MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT GETTING BURNED OUT.
THAT PERSON WOULD ONLY BE WORKING WITH FIRE STUFF.
SO, UM, ANY FIRE CALLS THAT COME IN WHILE IN STRUCTURE VEHICLE FIRES, UM, EQUIPMENT FIRES ON A MASK AND A HUNDRED PER PERCENT.
WELL, I'M NOT SURE YOUR QUE WHAT QUESTION TO ASK.
WOULD THAT PERSON BE DOING THIS A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THEIR TIME? YES.
THEN THEY COULD BE PAID OUT OF THE FIRE CODE FUND.
IF WE HAVE A FUNDING FOR THAT, WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT.
BECAUSE YOUR SALARY AND BENEFITS ARE PAID OUT OF THE GENERAL YEP.
AND THEN YOUR FIRE CODE FUND IS PAYING FOR ALL YOUR EXPENSES.
WHICH IS GOOD OF YOU TO GIVE THAT EXTRA TO US.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? THAT HELPS THE COUNTY.
BUT IF THAT PERSON WAS ASSIGNED JUST FIRE LEGALLY, HE COULD USE FUND 49 TO PAY THOSE, THAT SALARY AND BENEFITS IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
THEN WHERE'S THE FUNDING COME FROM ON THE FUND? THE FIRE FUND? I'M JUST LEARNING THE FIRE CODE FUND.
THE OTHER ONE I TOLD YOU WE'LL GO TO IN A MINUTE.
BETWEEN THE GENERAL AND THAT FUND, IS IT THE MONEY COMING FROM DIFFERENT, LIKE GRANTS OR SOMETHING ON THE FIRE FUND OR IS THAT STILL FROM THE TAXPAYERS? NO, FIRE CODE MONEY COMES FROM INSPECTIONS.
AND WHEN HE DOES THE PERMIT, ALL HIS FEES AND DIFFERENT THINGS, YOU CALL THAT THE FIRE WATCH WHEN YOU DO YEAH.
FIRE WATCH, UH, PLAY INTERVIEW PERMITS AND HE HAS QUITE A, A GOOD AMOUNT THERE THAT DON'T USE THAT MONEY THAT NOT DOMINATE, BUT USE THAT MONEY TO PAY FOR THAT SALARY AND BENEFITS IF YOU SAW APPROVED.
BUT THAT HAS TO BE JUST FOR FIRE.
PREVIOUSLY IN HISTORY, EVERYTHING WAS COVERED IN GENERAL FUND.
WE WOULD TRANSFER MONEY FROM THE FIRE CODE FUND TO THE GENERAL TO PAY SOME OF THEIR EXPENSES AND THEN WE STOPPED IT AND SEPARATED IT JUST SALARIES.
AND THEN HE ALL OF HIS INVESTIGATIVE UNIFORMS, GAS OIL OFFICE.
STUFF LIKE THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THAT FIRE.
WE BUY CARS WITH THAT FIRE FINE.
SO THAT WAY YOU'D UNDERSTAND HOW OKAY.
YEAH, SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A GOOD FUND TO, TO HAVE AVAILABLE AND WE WILL, UH, WE'LL LOOK AT THAT.
I WANNA MAKE SURE BECAUSE IT DOES FLUCTUATE AS, AS BUILDING CHANGES, BUT OUR GROWTH RIGHT NOW IS LOOKING PRETTY GOOD.
UM, FOR THE INSPECTOR POSITION, UM, WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE A LOT OF PROJECTS, SO TRYING TO MAINTAIN A MANAGEABLE NUMBER OF PROJECTS FOR THE INSPECTORS THAT ARE GOING OUT AND, AND DOING THOSE INSPECTIONS.
UM, I BELIEVE THE ADDITIONAL OF ANOTHER INSPECTOR WILL HELP US MANAGE THAT A LITTLE BIT.
RIGHT NOW IT'S A LOT FOR OUR CHIEF INVESTIGATOR AND I'M SORRY, CHIEF INSPECTOR AND, AND OUR INSPECTOR TO GO OUT AND DO THAT MANY INSPECTIONS.
UM, I DO HAVE A, A VISION FOR THIS OF DIVIDING THE COUNTY INTO NORTH AND SOUTH DISTRICTS.
THAT WAY WE'RE NOT DRIVING FROM ONE END OF THE COUNTY TO THE OTHER.
FOR INSPECTIONS, WE CAN KIND OF CUT BACK ON OUR DRIVE TIMES.
UM, THE FOUR PART-TIME INSPECTORS, UH, WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY ASSIGNED AS FIRE DEPARTMENT LIAISONS.
THEY'D BE ASSIGNED TO THREE OR FOUR FIRE DEPARTMENT RESPONSE DISTRICTS AND THEY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR CONDUCTING ANNUAL INSPECTIONS OF, UH, ANY EXISTING PROPERTIES IN THOSE DISTRICTS.
UH, THE BENEFIT OF THIS, HOPEFULLY IT WOULD BE SOMEONE HIRED FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS.
UM, THEY WOULD GO OUT AND DO THESE INSPECTIONS AND AT THE SAME TIME BE DOING PRE-INCIDENT PLANNING FOR THOSE FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND TURN RIGHT BACK AROUND AND HAND THOSE DEPARTMENTS A, UH, A DOCUMENT THEY CAN USE FOR, UH, ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS.
UH, IT'S ALSO A FORCE MULTIPLIER FOR US DURING THESE BUSY TIMES, UH, WHEN WILDFIRE SEASON KICKS OFF, UH, AND WE'RE HAVING TO ANSWER
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TONS AND TONS OF BURNAND VIOLATIONS.THIS IS SOMEONE THAT CAN GET IN THE TRUCK AND GO OUT AND RESPOND WITH THESE DEPARTMENTS TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES.
UM, RIGHT NOW, UH, TALKING TO THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT, THEY HAVE ABOUT 800 COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, UH, IN THEIR SYSTEM.
WE ONLY HAVE RECORDS FOR ABOUT HALF OF THAT.
SO, UM, HAVING PEOPLE ON THE GROUND ACTUALLY GO AND PUT EYES ON THESE BUILDINGS IS REALLY WHAT WE NEED.
UH, THE GOAL FOR THIS WOULD BE TO KIND OF DIVIDE IT UP INTO FOUR DIFFERENT DISTRICTS.
AND SO HERE'S A MAP OF HOW I I ENVISION THIS HAPPENING.
UM, THE BLUE LINE FOLLOWS 1 75 AND 2 43 NORTH AND SOUTH PARTS OF THE COUNTY.
THAT WOULD BE FOR OUR FULL-TIME INSPECTORS.
AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE, UM, ONE PART-TIMER COVERING COMBINE CRANDLE AND FORNEY, ONE PART-TIMER COVERING TERRELL, ABEL SPRINGS, ELMO AND COLLEGE MOUND, ONE PART-TIMER COVERING KAUFMAN, SCURRY AND ROSSER, AND THEN ONE PART-TIMER COVERING KEMP AND MAYBANK.
UM, AND AGAIN, THAT WOULD JUST BE A GOOD RESOURCE FOR THOSE DEPARTMENTS.
SO, UH, UNDER THIS, THIS IS KIND OF WHAT OUR ORGANIZATIONAL CHART WOULD LOOK LIKE.
IF EVERYTHING GOT APPROVED, UH, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GO TO THAT 24 HOUR ON DUTY INVESTIGATOR.
UM, AND WE WOULD HAVE, UH, ENOUGH PEOPLE TO HANDLE THE NEW CONSTRUCTION AND EXISTING BUILDINGS INSPECTIONS.
UH, THE WAY I'VE EXPLAINED IT TO MY STAFF IS EVERYBODY'S KIND OF RESPONSIBLE FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION.
UM, AND SO WHEN WE DO HAVE AN EVENT, YOU KNOW, WE JUST, UH, GET EVERYBODY TO COME OUT AND HELP AND, AND PRESENT WHAT WE DO.
SO THE, THE BIG INCREASES OUT OF THE, UH, LINE ITEMS AND THE FIRE CODE FUND, DO YOU WANNA WAIT TO GO OVER THOSE OR JUST KEEP ON GOING? YOU TALKING ABOUT THE CAPITAL ASSETS STUFF THAT YOU NEED TO BUY? UH, I'M TALKING ABOUT SAFETY EQUIPMENT, COMPUTER EQUIPMENT.
CAUSE YOU DIDN'T PUT THAT IN YOUR GENERAL FUND BUDGET.
RIGHT? THAT'S IN THE FIRE CODE.
GO TO PAGE 1 22 IN OTHER, UH, FUNDS.
ION THAT YOU HAVE CURRENTLY, UM, IN THE GENERAL FINDING, ARE YOU PLANNING ON KEEPING THAT THERE OR I WOULD USE THAT BASICALLY MOVE IT OVER TO FIRE CODE FUND.
IT WOULD BE ONE OF THE FOUR POSITIONS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO APPROVE HERE.
AND ON THE GENERAL FUND SIDE, REMOVE THE PART-TIME HELP INCREASE IT BY THE POSITION.
SO, UM, FOR THE, UH, SAFETY EQUIPMENT LINE ITEM, THAT WAS A PRETTY BIG INCREASE.
WHAT, UH, WE HAD A DISCUSSION WITH T C F P WHEN THEY CAME IN FOR OUR COMPLIANCE INSPECTION.
UH, WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE, BUT THERE'S SOME THINGS COMING OUT IN THE FUTURE ABOUT PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT AND MAKING SURE THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO FIRE SCENES, WHETHER IT'S WILDLAND OR STRUCTURE, THAT WE DO HAVE APPROPRIATE PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT.
THAT'S EVERYTHING FROM, UH, GEAR TO HAVING SHELTERS IF WE'RE GONNA BE OUT ON A WILDLAND FIRE SCENE.
UM, WORST CASE SCENARIO TYPE STUFF.
BUT, UM, MAKING SURE WE HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE.
UM, WE ALSO NEED TO GET SOME MORE, UH, PROPERLY SIZED BALLISTIC VESTS, UH, FOR THE PEACE OFFICERS.
SO THAT'S WHERE THOSE INCREASES.
ARE ANY GRANTS FOR THAT FOR YOU GUYS? UH, THERE IS, THERE'S SOMETHING THROUGH T O L.
UM, AND I'M NOT SURE IF OUR AGENCY IS BIG ENOUGH TO RECEIVE THAT GRANT, BUT I CAN LOOK INTO THAT.
LOOK INTO THAT AND IF NEED TO PAM'S GOOD.
APPLYING FOR GRANTS AND SHE WORKS WITH THE AUDITOR TO HELP YOU GET, YOU GET THE NUMBERS, SO THAT WOULD BE A BIG HELP.
THE POLICY, YOU HAVE, UH, EXPENSES HERE FOR CANINE.
DO Y'ALL HAVE YOUR OWN DOG? UH, SO WE USED TO, WE ARE NOT ANYMORE.
UM, AND SO WE'RE LOOKING TO REPLACE THAT.
UM, AND THAT IS THAT, UH, CANINE OPERATIONS EXPENSE.
WE DO WANNA REPLACE THAT NOTABLE LIQUIDS CANINE AND, UH, THE BIG COST IS NUMBER ONE, THE PURCHASE OF THE DOG AND THEN TRAINING OF THE HANDLER.
UM, AFTER THAT, THE OPERATING EXPENSE FOR CANINE GOES BACK DOWN TO, I THINK IT WAS 3000 THIS LAST YEAR.
UM, AND SO THIS IS GONNA BE KIND OF A ONE TIME, UM, PURCHASE OF THE DOG AND TRAINING FOR THE HANDLER.
AND THEN IT WILL, UH, WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN UNTIL WE HAVE TO REPLACE THAT CANINE AGAIN.
THE STATE, THE STATE DOESN'T HAVE ANY CANINES.
UM, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET THEM TO COME OUT TO THE SCENE, UH, FOR A COUPLE DAYS AND, UM, THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS AVAILABLE.
WE'VE BEEN TURNED DOWN SEVERAL TIMES, UH, FROM THE STATE.
UM, AND WE'VE BEEN A RESOURCE WHEN WE DID HAVE A CANINE, UH, FOR THE CITIES AND FOR SOME SURROUNDING COUNTIES AS WELL.
UM, BECAUSE THE STATE WASN'T AVAILABLE TO COME AND RESPOND.
AND I GUESS NONE OF OUR CITIES HAS A NO.
UM, HOW MANY, HOW MANY, HOW MANY COMMERCIAL, UH, FIRES OR, OR HOUSE FIRES OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WOULD'VE
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ACTUALLY USED THE DOG OR THAT YOU THOUGHT THAT WAS? YEAH, SO BEST PRACTICE IS TO RUN THE DOG ON EVERY FIRE.UM, AND THERE MAY BE, EVEN IF YOU HAVE ONE FIRE SET IN ONE AREA, YOU MAY HAVE GASOLINE POURED IN ANOTHER AREA THAT DIDN'T LIGHT.
AND WE'VE HAD DOGS PICK UP ON THAT AND WE ACTUALLY GET A GOOD ARSON CONVICTION OUT OF THAT EVEN THOUGH IT WASN'T SET.
UM, SO THE GOAL WOULD BE TO RUN IT ON EVERY FIRE.
WOULD THE CITIES PITCH IN ON THE EXPENSE? UM, BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA BE USED THEM IN THOSE CITIES.
SO I THINK IT'LL PROBABLY BE DONE THROUGH AN ILA IF, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, WHERE WE JUST WORK OUT AN AGREEMENT IF THEY USE THE CANINE IN THE CITY, UH, OR WE GO OUTSIDE THE COUNTY FOR ANY REASON.
THIS WOULD BE THE EXPENSE PAY.
WELL, IT WOULD HELP OFFSET OUR EXPENSES.
BUT IT DOESN'T BENEFIT FOR THEM ALSO AT THE SAME TIME.
I BET THEY'D ALL BE WILLING TO HELP ON THAT, EITHER ON A RECURRENCE BASIS OR AN ANNUAL BASIS THOUGH, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
SO, UM, IF WE DO THIS, THAT I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE NECESSARY HAVE TO DO.
AND STAND ON ILAS IN PLACE ANYWAY.
IF WE'RE USING OUR STUFF FOR THE CITIES AND, AND BY STUFF I MEAN WE CLEAN THE DOLL, RIGHT? BUT THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, REALLY WE SHOULD SEEK REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE CITIES.
UM, SO THIS COUNTY'S NOT PUTTING THE BILL.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING YOU NEED TO CHECK TO.
HOW MANY AGREEMENTS DO WE HAVE WITH CITIES? UH, YEAH, I'M NOT SURE RIGHT NOW.
ANY ANY OF THE OTHER CANINE, HUH? NO, THEY, THEY CAN'T USE THEM FOR THE SAME THING.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS, DO WE HAVE AN INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT FOR ANY OF THE OTHER CAN NINES THAT WE GO USE IN THE CITIES ALL THE TIME? OH YEAH.
AND THIS IS A GOOD QUESTION BECAUSE THAT'S A REAL EXPENSIVE, I MEAN, BECAUSE GETS HURT OR GETS YEAH, YEAH.
INJURED OR DAMAGED IN ANY WAY.
WE'VE PUT ALL THOSE BILLS, THE TREATMENT WELL THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TREATMENT LOOK INTO ALSO.
WE REALLY DO NEED, I'LL LOVE WITH YOU IF YOU AFTER ABSOLUTELY, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
UH, AND ANOTHER BIG INCREASE WAS COMPUTER EQUIPMENT.
WE JUST HAVE OLD COMPUTERS THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED.
OF COURSE, IF WE GET THESE POSITIONS APPROVED, UH, WE'LL NEED TO BUY ADDITIONAL LAPTOPS AND, AND COMPUTERS FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES AS WELL.
SO, UH, OVERALL THIS IS KINDA THE BREAKDOWN OF PERSONNEL COSTS VERSUS OPERATING EXPENSES.
UH, AGAIN, WE ASSUMED ALL OF THE OPERATING EXPENSES UNDER THE FIRE CODE FUND LAST YEAR AND UM, UNDER THIS PROPOSAL WE, WITH THAT POSITION STILL IN GENERAL FUND, UH, WE WERE ASSUMING 15% OF PERSONNEL COSTS OUT OF THE FIRE CODE FUND AND 85% OUTTA THE GENERAL FUND.
UM, BUT IF WE DO HAVE ENOUGH FUNDS FOR MOVING THESE FULL-TIME POSITIONS UNDER, UH, THE FIRE CODE FUND, THEN THAT WILL CHANGE.
ANY QUESTIONS? YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, PAUL.
LIKE YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
OR NOT REPORT, BUT BUDGET REQUEST.
CAN I, CAN I GET THIS TO YOU? SEE IF YOU WOULD SIGN, IF YOU WANNA READ IT, YOU'RE WELCOME TO.
JUST THIS ONE RIGHT HERE? YES SIR.
WE GOT AN INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT TO DO THAT.
YOU GOING TO GET REIMBURSEMENT OR ANYTHING? YEAH.
WELL, AFTER THAT I'LL STILL COME TO THIS POINT, RIGHT?
I MAY BE STAYING BETWEEN Y'ALL ON LUNCH, SO YEAH, YOU, YOU YOUR TIME JUST GOT 73 GOT SHORTER.
IT WON'T BACK LONG, BELIEVE ME.
WOULD TURN YOUR PAGE OR HYMNALS TO PAGE 73.
SO THE ONLY THING THAT WE KNOW REGULAR KEPT EVERYTHING THE SAME.
THE ONLY THING THAT WE'RE REQUESTING THIS YEAR, UM, THREE, THREE LITTLE LINE ITEMS. ONE IS AN INCREASE IN OUR, UH, OUR TRAVEL BUDGET FROM 6,000 TO 7,200 PER AGENT PER YEAR JUST BECAUSE THE RISING COST OF MAINTENANCE ON OUR VEHICLES AND, UM, ALL OUR RESPONSIBILITIES THERE.
UM, AND THEN JUST AN INCREASE IN OUR OFFICE SUPPLY LINE.
I'M I LIGHT ITEM BUDGET FROM 6,500 TO 7,000 JUST BECAUSE OF JUST SURE.
COST IS, AGAIN, PAPER'S GONE UP.
UM, AND THEN AN INCREASE IN THE AGENT OUTTA COUNTY TRAVEL FROM 6,300 TO SEVEN TO 6,300 TO 7,000.
UM, THAT'S MAINLY FOR, UM, WHEN WE GO TO CONFERENCES,
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OUR CONFERENCE REGISTRATIONS AND TRAVEL TO THERE HAS INCREASED.SO, UM, IN TOTAL, WE'RE ASKING FOR JUST A DIFFERENCE IN OUR BUDGET FROM LAST YEAR.
I THINK IT'S 2,400 IS OUR TOTAL THAT WE'RE, UM, LOOKING AT THERE.
SO, UH, MR. KAREN, THAT'S 2020.
THAT'S NOT 2,400? I WOULDN'T THINK SO.
NO, IT DOESN'T LOOK, IT DOESN'T LOOK, IT DOESN'T END UP, UP ON MY LINE.
I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T HEAR YOU JUDGE.
ALRIGHT, SO WE GOT 1200 INCREASE TIMES THREE.
OH, I DIDN'T, I DID THAT WRONG.
YEAH, I WAS DOING THIS RIGHT BEFORE I WALKED OUT THE DOOR, SO NO, YOU'RE RIGHT.
WANNA CORRECT YOUR MATH THERE, BUT YES SIR.
SO WE GOT OFFICE SUPPLIES, $500 BUMP.
OUT OF COUNTY, A $1,200 BUMP FOR ALL THREE.
SO 4,800, IS THAT CORRECT? AND DID I DO IT RIGHT THAT TIME? YEAH, THEY GET A, UH, $6,000 TRAVEL.
ANY QUESTIONS? AND THE ONLY THING IS IF, YOU KNOW, IF Y'ALL DECIDE TO GIVE THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES A RAISE, JUST PLEASE THINK OF US AS WELL.
SO WE'RE COUNTY EMPLOYEES BEFORE ANYTHING, SO.
YOU GUYS GOOD? A AND M GIVE YOU ANY CAR ALLOWANCE TOO? NO.
THE ONLY THING WE GET FROM A AND M IS LIKE MONDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY I GOT DEPLOYED TO EAST TEXAS TO DO DISASTER ASSESSMENTS AND IT'S JUST A REIMBURSEMENT.
BUT THAT'S, THAT'S JUST A FREE FOR THAT.
WELL, VERY LITTLE BUT THAT'S JUST A, A FREE I GET FREAK THING WE, I'M JUST ASKING.
THAT'S TWICE SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.
YEAH, I SAID THAT MATH MATTER THAT IN MY HEAD.
DO YOU WANNA KNOW SOME HISTORY BEHIND THAT? YES MA'AM.
THEY WEREN'T REALLY GIVEN A TRAVEL ALLOWANCE ON THEIR CHECKS.
THEY HAD A LINE ITEM AND WHEN THEY TRAVELED THEY USED IT AND WOULD TURN IN FORMS AND IT GOT TO WHERE ONE AGENT WAS IN A FINANCIAL BUYING HAD WENT BANKRUPT AND HE KEPT HANDING IN AND WE KNEW HE WEREN'T TRAVELING THOSE MILES, SO WE STOPPED IT AND MADE THEM GET 6,000 A MONTH.
AND THEN WE DID THE OUT OF COUNTY TRAVEL.
SO WHEN THEY GO TO THE RODEOS OR THE SHOWINGS RIGHT, WE CAN REIMBURSE 'EM LIKE THAT.
THIS PERSON STILL WITH US? HUH? IS THIS PERSON THAT STILL WITH US? NO.
SO WAITING ON JUDGE GIBBS, NATHAN, AND JUDGE GRAY AND NATHAN'S IN THE VOTING IF YOU WANT.
AS LONG AS HE'S DONE INFECTION.
DID YOU, DID YOU TURN THE MAX OFF WHILE WE'RE SOMEBODY FROM DOING THAT? BECAUSE I'VE SEEN IT HAPPENING.
DID YOU TURN THESE OFF? I KEPT LOOKING AT 15, 1800 AND I KNEW HE WASN'T DRIVING THOSE MILES CUZ I'D SEEN HIM.
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I'M WORRIED ABOUT 10 MINUTES.I GOT 10 MINUTES RIGHT BEFORE.
WE'RE GONNA DO COMPUTER FIRST.
WHAT DO Y'ALL HAVE IN FRONT OF Y'ALL? IS IT THE SPREADSHEET, THE SHEET YOU GAVE US? WHAT YOU SENT YOUR MEMO.
WELL, I WANTED TO SEE, I WANTED TO DEFINITELY SEE THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID, WHAT Y'ALL HAVE, BECAUSE THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE I, UH, PUT IT IN AND IT'S CHANGED FOR THE BETTER, SO.
UM, THESE NUMBERS ARE, ARE HUGE THIS YEAR AND I, I WANTED TO TELL Y'ALL I WAS, I WAS SHOCKED WHEN I GOT IT ALL.
UM, SO MY COMPUTER BUDGET DEFINITELY WENT UP QUITE A BIT THIS YEAR.
BUT I'LL START WITH THE VERY FIRST LINE ITEM.
LET ME GET THIS SPREADSHEET IN FRONT OF ME SO I CAN SEE EXACTLY.
THE FIRST LINE ITEM IS SOFTWARE.
UM, AND LET ME SEE WHAT Y'ALL HAVE ON THERE RIGHT NOW.
AFTER SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DA SOFTWARE, WHICH Y'ALL ARE GONNA MEET WITH.
UM, JUDGE WILEY, WE ALREADY HAVE.
SO Y'ALL HAVE HEARD ABOUT VIX, RIGHT? WE HEARD JUDGE WILEY
THOSE NUMBERS, WHEN I FIRST WAS DOING AN ESTIMATE TO TURN THIS IN, THEY WERE WAY HIGHER.
SO THIS, THIS LINE ITEM AT THE, FOR THE SOFTWARE, UM, IS NOW 66, 75, 500 AFTER I'VE MADE SOME CHANGES.
YEAH, SHE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT, I GUESS THAT'S THE ONE THAT SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT GONNA BE FREE FOR.
CAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY MORE MONEY IN THE BUDGET.
I'LL, I'LL DEFINITELY GIVE YOU OKAY.
UM, I'M TRYING TO FIRST JUST LOOK TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANY OTHER CHANGES HERE.
IT MAKES A LITTLE DIFFERENT, THERE'S A WATCHGUARD VPN FIREWALL.
BY THE WAY, THAT NAME HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH.
UH, IT HAS, IT IS OUR FIREWALL, BUT WE DON'T USE WATCHGUARD VPN.
AND I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND CHANGING IT TO WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IT IS FIREWALL.
NO, WE, CAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GIVE THAT.
BUT THAT'S HOW, THAT'S NOW, UM, $5,000 AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY.
UM, FROM 30 DOWN TO FIVE? YES.
I THOUGHT THAT THE SERVICES, UM, THAT'S 50 FOR MY NEW, ISN'T IT? YEAH, IT WAS AROUND 50.
UM, I THOUGHT THE SERVICES THAT I WAS GONNA HAVE TO PAY ANNUALLY WAS GONNA BE A LOT HIGHER BECAUSE WITH OUR CURRENT FIREWALL, THEY ARE, UM, THAT HIGH MM-HMM.
I'M GOING WITH A 40 NET FIREWALL AND, UM, THEY'RE VERY REPUTABLE AND I'M REALLY HAPPY WITH THE PRICES.
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SUBSCRIPTION.DONE WITH THE BUDGET THAT I HAD PREPARED FOR LAST YEAR.
SO I PUT $5,000 ON HERE BECAUSE, UM, I NEED TO, IF WE HAVE A NEW BUILDING SOMEWHERE, LIKE A, I DON'T, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE PLANS.
I'VE HEARD RUMORS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE A BUILDING FOR A NEW JP COURT.
IF WE HAVE THE ONE THERE, I GOTTA HAVE A SMALL FIREWALL AT THAT LOCATION.
SO I PUT 5,000 JUST TO COVER, UH, THE HARDWARE AND ANY KIND OF, WELL, IF WE DO THAT, IT'LL BE IN THE SAME BUILDING THAT WE'RE IN.
SO TOGETHER WE JUST ADD A COURT TO IT.
WE'LL TAKE THAT IN AND BUILD ANOTHER COURT.
I I WON'T MEET A NEW FIREWALL.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S WHAT STILL LEAVE THAT 5,000 THOUGH.
THAT'S JUST WHAT WE'RE KINDA LOOKING AT.
BUT IT'S BETTER THAN 50, RIGHT? THAN 50.
THREE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, I'M GONNA HAVE ANOTHER, UM, IT'S GONNA BE A LOT HIGHER.
BUT I LIKE, I LIKE THIS THREE YEAR DEAL BECAUSE I SAVED 33% BY DOING IT.
THEY GET TWO YEAR, YOU'RE PAYING FOR TWO YEARS, YOU GET THIRD YEAR FREE.
THAT'S, SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GREAT DEAL.
SO A TOTAL OF 5K WILL WORK? YES, MA'AM.
I'LL PUT FOR EACS I PUT ABOUT 21,000 EAC IS THE ELECTRIC FORM, UH, OR IS THE DIGITAL FORM OF FAXING, BY THE WAY.
SO I LOVE USING E INSTEAD OF THE TRADITIONAL FAXES BECAUSE THOSE WERE COSTLY.
EVERYBODY HAVING THEIR OWN PHONE LINEUPS.
WE SAVED A LOT OF MONEY WHEN WE, WHEN WE DID THAT.
YOU WERE, IT WAS ABOUT YOUR FIRST YEAR HERE.
WE STARTED CUTTING ALL THAT OUT.
GOT RID OF ALL THE FAX MACHINE.
I WENT UP AND, UH, I THINK Y'ALL SEE THE SAME NUMBER FOR CONNECTWISE, WHICH IS ACTUALLY NOT THE REMOTE DESKTOP SOFTWARE WE USE, BUT THAT'S MY REMOTE DESKTOP SOFTWARE.
CUZ I HAVE A NEW GUY AND WE KEEP, UH, UH, USING ALL OUR LICENSES.
THAT'S WHAT IT'S GONNA COST EACH YEAR.
SO MY, MY NEW TOTAL, AND AGAIN, KAREN, I'M DEFINITELY GONNA GIVE YOU AN UPDATED SPREADSHEET.
I DON'T WANT YOU HANDLING MY PAPER.
MY NEW TOTAL IS $917,050 AT THE BOTTOM USE RIGHT NOW.
AND NOW LET'S GO TO YOUR IT BUDGET.
IF, IF Y'ALL WANTED, THE SOFTWARE IS, THERE'S A LOT LOADED IN THERE IF Y'ALL WANT.
IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OVER SOFTWARE, WHAT'S INCLUDED OR ANYTHING ABOUT OUR SPECIFIC, UH, SOFTWARE, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE PAYING FOR ODYSSEY INJURY AND ALL THAT STUFF.
I'M PREPARED TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS IF, IF Y'ALL WANT.
I TOLD HIM YOU WERE WRITING THEM A BOOK, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL YOU I GOT A BOOK, BUT IT'S, UH, IT DEFINITELY WASN'T WRITTEN, BUT IT WAS I'LL, I'LL, UH, MAKE IT NICER BEFORE I SENT IT ON OVER THERE.
BUT Y'ALL ARE DEFINITELY GONNA HAVE ALL THE DETAILS.
BUT HERE IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HERE TO ANSWER 'EM.
THERE'S ONE, THERE'S ACTUALLY, THERE'S ONE THING THAT I NEED TO BRING UP AND THAT'S WESTLAW FORM BUILDER.
HAVE Y'ALL SPOKE WITH PUBLIC DEFENDER YET? NO.
UM, HE HAS A SOFTWARE CALLED PRODOC AND THEY RECEIVED A LETTER, UM, RECENTLY THAT THEY ARE, UH, NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO USE IT AFTER AUGUST 1ST.
SO I'M, I PLAN ON CALLING, UM, I EMAILED THEM THIS MOR THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE THIS MORNING.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE MORE DETAILS ON HOW MUCH THE NEW SOFTWARE'S GONNA COST, BUT I PLAN ON, I PLAN ON CALLING, UH, THOMPSON ROOTERS IS THE, UH, COMPANY AND SEEING HOW MUCH THAT WOULD COST PER YEAR.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY PAY FOR PROD DOCS RIGHT NOW.
WE TO PAY FOR IT OUT OF THEIR BUDGET.
SO I HAD IN, IN THIS SOFTWARE, UH, BUDGET UP HERE, I PUT $12,000 FOR WESTLAW, UM, FORM BUILDER THAT COULD GO AWAY IF I'M NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING THAT.
HE WAS PAYING, UM, RIGHT AT NINE TO 11,000.
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IT'S, HE BUDGETED 89, BUT WE'VE ONLY HAD TO PAY 39 AND I JUST CARRIED THE 30 89 OVER CUZ HE NEVER GAVE ME A BUDGET.THAT HE MUST BE USING THAT FOR OTHER THINGS TOO BECAUSE THAT PRODOC SERVER IS HERE.
IT'S OLD AND IT'S ON A DESKTOP COMPUTER AND THERE'S NO WAY HE'S PAYING THAT MUCH FOR AN ON-PREM SERVER.
HE MUST BE USING THAT FOR SOMETHING ELSE.
I WONDER, I WONDER HOW HE'S DIVVYING THAT OUT, BUT SO WHERE DID YOU PUT IT? I PUT IT UNDER SOFTWARE.
SO DON'T WE NEED TO MOVE THAT OUTTA YOUR SOFTWARE AND PUT IT BACK TO PUBLIC DEFENDER THEN? THAT'S WHERE IT BELONGS.
IF, IF THAT'S WHERE IT WAS, I COULD HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH HIM.
I I, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S GENERAL FUND, I DON'T CARE.
Y'ALL, Y'ALL TELL ME WE'RE GONNA PAY FOR IT ONE WAY OR OTHER.
MOVING THE INSURANCE FROM ONE BIG LINE ITEM TO EVERYBODY'S BUDGET AND EVERYTHING AND HIS STATE THERE, NOBODY CAUGHT IT.
AND I WASN'T GONNA ARGUE WITH ANDREA.
AND, UH, CAUSE I HAD A LOSS PROBABLY.
IF HE DOESN'T, IF ANDREW DOESN'T OBJECT, YOU NEED TO TALK WITH HIM ABOUT THE SOFTWARE HE'S GONNA WANT TO USE THEN THAT YOU'VE GOT IT IN YOUR SOFTWARE BUDGET AND HE NEEDS TO GO THROUGH YOU TO PURCHASE IT BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THAT GA B 96 NOW THAT WE'VE GOTTA HAVE THE START AND ENDING OF THOSE CONTRACTS AND WHAT KIND OF SOFTWARE IT IS.
SO WHY DON'T YOU TWO WORK THAT OUT? I WILL, IF IT'S IN YOUR BUDGETS, FINE.
IT'S ALL, LIKE I SAID, DOESN'T MATTER.
HERE'S A QUICK BULLET LIST OF WHAT'S UNDER SOFTWARE FOR ME, TYLER ODYSSEY AND JURY.
TYLER MUNIS, C R P I I JUST WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK.
UH, THAT'S 183,000, BY THE WAY, IS WHAT I SAW ON THE CONTRACT FOR NEXT YEAR.
I I HAVEN'T FINISHED PLAN PAYING FOR THE ATION, SO I CARRIED THAT OVER INTO CAPITAL OUTLAY.
YEAH, I I, BECAUSE I STILL GOT THE BIG PACKAGE OF PAYROLL.
WE'RE STARTING TO VERIFY EVERYTHING NOW, AND I'LL TELL YOU HOW SHARP OUR NEW COOKIE IS.
I INTRODUCED TO Y'ALL, SHE GAVE HIM THE INFORMATION AND HE'S FILLED IN THE SPREADSHEET OF FIVE YEARS WORTH OF HISTORY OF AP VENDOR NUMBERS, VENDOR NAMES SCANNED IN DOCUMENTS.
HE'S WROTE THE PROGRAM IN EXCEL TO CATCH IT.
AND IF IT'S THE SAME, IT SAYS YES AND WE ONLY HAVE TO CHECK THE NO.
SO THAT'S PRETTY GOOD FOR FIVE YEARS WORTH OF HISTORY OF ALL THE CHECKS WE'VE WRITTEN.
I'VE GOT VIX NOW, UM, SHOWING ON, UH, OR BUNDLING UNDER SOFTWARE.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE DA'S NEW SOFTWARE, BY THE WAY.
IT WAS DOCUMENT LOGISTICS BEFORE, NOW IT'S VIX SOUTHERN SOFTWARE, UM, FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THREE OF THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICES AND THEN SOUTHERN SOFTWARE FOR, UH, PRECINCT TWO.
AND THEN, AND THEN THE WESTLAW PUBLIC DEFENDER.
THE, THE, THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS THAT I, I'M ALWAYS, UH, UNSURE ABOUT.
TYLER EAGLE, I BELIEVE THAT'S COUNTY CLERK SOFTWARE FOR MARRIAGE AND, AND ALL THAT, THAT YOU, HE'S HERE.
DO YOU WANNA PAY FOR IT? NO, NO.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS NOTHING IN, BECAUSE WE JUST SWITCHED TO CLOUD.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE IS ANYTHING THAT IT SHOULD BE PAYING FOR AT ALL FOR THAT SOFTWARE.
UM, AND IF THERE IS I DON'T, I MEAN, I COULD, I COULD ADD ON THERE, BUT I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS.
AND THEN ON THAT SIMILAR NOTE, TYLER JURY, UM, I HAVE TYLER JURY AS I MENTIONED BEFORE AS PART OF MY SOFTWARE, BUT ALL THOSE ADDITIONAL SERVICES, SUMMONS AND ALL THAT STUFF, I'M ASSUMING A CLERK, UH, DEPARTMENT IS PAYING FOR THAT, THAT THAT COMES OUT OF THE JURY.
SO THOSE ARE THE ONLY, UM, SOFTWARE COSTS I WAS A LITTLE UNSURE ABOUT, BUT NOW I'M, I'M SURE.
SO, UH, YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S THE BREAKDOWN OF THE SOFTWARE LINE ITEM.
BUT, UM, JUST TO BE CLEAR ON THAT, IF YOU, IF YOU'RE NOT SURE, EVERYBODY HERE THAT HAS AN EMAIL, UM, HAS A LICENSE ASSOCIATED AND I GOTTA PAY FOR THAT.
IT'S, AND IT'S, UM, SHERIFF'S, SHERIFF'S OFFICE SIDE AND, UH, THE REST OF THE COUNTY.
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SO I DID TALK TO YOU ABOUT JP TWO.IF IT'S PEOPLE THAT'S UNDER THAT CONTRACT THAT THEY HAVE, UM, I HAVE TO WORK WITH ACCOUNTS PAYABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S GETTING PULLED FROM THEIR, THEIR FUND.
I I CAN MOVE ON TO, UH, THE NEXT BUDGET IF Y'ALL DON'T HAVE ANY.
UM, I WANTED TO BRING THIS UP.
I KNOW THAT, UH, THE, I WANTED TO BRING THIS UP FIRST.
THE CAR SITUATION IN MY DEPARTMENT, I HAVE A TOTAL OF EIGHT PEOPLE NOW INCLUDING ME.
SHE DOESN'T DRIVE AROUND THE COUNTY, BUT THE REST OF THE PEOPLE, THEY DO DRIVE AROUND.
UM, MY SYSTEMS ADMIN, OR SORRY, MY SYSTEMS ENGINEER, UH, CHRIS SEYMOUR, WE USED TO HAVE A VAN IN THE DEPARTMENT AND, UM, HE COULDN'T FIT IN THE VAN VERY WELL AT ALL.
SO I ENDED UP GIVING THAT VAN TO MAKING A, A TRANSFER OF GIVING THAT VAN TO FACILITIES.
SO NOW WE ARE DOWN TO ONE VEHICLE ONLY, AND I HAVE TWO EMPLOYEES.
ONE MY NEW TYLER TECHNOLOGIES POSITION.
I WANTED TO LEAVE THAT UP TO Y'ALL, HOW TO ADDRESS A VEHICLE FOR THEM.
SHOULD WE GO THROUGH ENTERPRISE? I KNOW SOME DEPARTMENTS HAVE BEEN FRUSTRATED WITH IT.
WE HAVE AN OLD TRUCK THAT DAN DRIVES, SO I'M NOT SURE IF WE SHOULD GO THE VEHICLE ROUTE OR SH OR IF WE SHOULD DO A, A CAR ALLOWANCE ROUTE.
I WOULD THINK CAROU THINK THAT'D BE THE EASIEST.
JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, SINCE DAN HAS THAT ELECTRIC MOTORCYCLE, YOU KNOW, $5 A YEAR MM-HMM.
AND I, I, WHEN HE DRIVES THAT, YEAH, I THINK HIS CAR PROBABLY DECENT CAR.
THINK IF WE DID AT LEAST TWO CARS WOULD COST US, WHAT, 1700 A MONTH? YEAH, I WOULD SAY PROBABLY 1500.
PER CAR WITH THE INTEREST, THE PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST AND MOST OF OUR CAR LOUNGES OR YEAH, WE HAVE SOME WHERE YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE ANY COUNTY VEHICLES THEN.
DO WE HAVE A CLUE ON, DO WE HAVE A CLUE ON TIME? I SAY DRIVE.
I HAD TO GO ABOUT 95, BUT I CAUGHT HIM SPEED.
WHO? AND I HAVE HIS, THAT WAS, WAS NOT ME.
I KNOW, I REMEMBER THAT CONVERSATION.
SO YOU HAVE ACTUALLY TWO PEOPLE WHO TRAVEL A LOT THAT WE NEED A ALLOWANCE.
YOU TALKING ABOUT ALL OF YOUR PEOPLE? I ALREADY HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE GETTING ALLOWANCE RIGHT NOW.
SO WHO DOESN'T GET A ALLOWANCE? THERE'S ONLY TWO.
IT'S CHRIS SEYMOUR, HE'S MY SYSTEMS ENGINEER AND MY NEW GUY, UH, UH, TANNER LONG.
JUST ADD THE TWO TO 7,200 AND THEN DAN DOES NOT HAVE A, DAN HAS THE TRUCK.
WE'LL PUT LADDERS IN THERE AND I, I DON'T FEEL THE NEED TO SELL IT OR ANYTHING IF OKAY.
ALREADY ON ELECTRIC MOTORCYCLE HAVE IT.
YOU TALKING ABOUT 7,200 A PIECE A YEAR? YES.
SO THAT BASICALLY YEAH, THAT'S WHAT, OKAY.
SO Y'ALL ARE SAYING THOSE TWO ARE OKAY.
I THINK THAT'S THE EASIEST WAY TO HANDLE IT.
UM, WELL, I, I'LL LET, THERE'S NOT MAJOR CHANGES THAT I, I DID ON THIS.
UM, SO MY, MY NUMBER IS 500 5700.
OH, DO YOU MIND? YOU'RE GREAT.
OH, SHE HAD A SALARY ADDED? YEAH.
DID YOU GET A PRICE ON YOUR TOOLBOX? YOU TALKED TO ME ABOUT NO, I DID NOT.
THAT'S GONNA BE A, YOU KNOW WHAT Y'ALL PROBABLY MINIMUM ITEM.
SO IF, IF I HAD A, UH, A TOOLBOX THAT HAD ALL OUR, UH, DRILLS, OUR NETWORK EQUIPMENT IN IT, AND WE HAD IT, YOU KNOW, A GOOD STANDING TOOLBOX THAT WE KEPT IN A ROOM AND I COULD LOCK AND EVERYTHING.
HOW MUCH DO Y'ALL THINK? IT'S LIKE JUST A ROLL AROUND TYPE, IF IT'S JUST THE BOTTOM ONE OR A TOP? YEAH, THEY'RE EACH ABOUT 2 20, 2 50 A PIECE.
YOU KNOW, THE BOTTOM AND THE TOP.
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YEAH.LOWS HAS GOT 'EM FOR ABOUT 2 52 AND 2 56.
NO, NOT FOR THE STEREO IN IT'S, THAT'S KIND OF WELL, THEY NOW, THE GREAT BIG ONES.
THAT WOULD DEFINITELY TAKE EASY.
I JUST, IN MY GARAGE, I, YOU MENTIONED IT TO ME, SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD A CRUSH YET.
UH, 2,500 IS NOT JUST FOR THE TOOLBOX.
WHAT, WHATEVER I, YOU KNOW, I COULD LOWER THAT FOR SURE.
NOW WELL JUST LEAVE IT THERE FOR THE TIME BEING.
YEAH, BECAUSE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT DECIDE THAT SOMETHING ELSE IS A LITTLE MORE IMPORTANT THERE.
AND YOU MIGHT HAVE TO HAVE A TOOL TO GO IN AND OFFICE SUPPLIES OUR, WE, I INCLUDE OUR NETWORKING TOOLS IN THERE.
UM, SO WHENEVER I HAVE TO GET A NEW FLUKE SET OR WHATEVER, THAT'S A THOUSAND DOLLARS ITSELF.
LANDLINES, DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT LANDLINES? I WANT TO JUST BE CLEAR.
THAT'S ALL OF OUR INTERNET SERVICES, ALL OF OUR POTS LINES, WHICH IS THE OLD TELEPHONE LINES, WHICH WE STILL USE.
ELEVATORS, UH, ALARMS, EVERYTHING.
IT'S, UM, AND OUR CELL PHONES AND, UH, HOTSPOTS THAT'S ALL GROUPED INTO THIS BIG OLD GIANT LANDLINES LINE ITEM.
I'M TRYING, I TRY EVERY YEAR TO BRING THAT DOWN.
I THINK THIS YEAR IT IS GOING DOWN.
AND THE 2 75 THAT I PUT ON THERE, I PUT MORE FOR NEXT YEAR BECAUSE I'M, I'M HAVING TO INCREASE BANDWIDTH IN, UM, DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.
THE K O NEEDS A, A BIGGER BANDWIDTH NOW.
UM, WE, UH, AND KAUFMAN NEED A BIGGER BANDWIDTH.
BECAUSE, UH, ALL KAUFMAN BUILDINGS GO THROUGH THE EOC TO GO OUT TO THE INTERNET.
SO THAT TRUNK RIGHT THERE IS ONE GIGABIT THAT'S A THOUSAND MEGABITS PER SECOND.
I NEED THAT EITHER DOUBLED OR EVEN TRIPLED.
I KNEW FIREWALL CAN HANDLE A HIGHER THAN GIGABIT SPEED NOW.
SO I'M REALLY HAPPY ABOUT THAT.
BUT ANYWAYS, THAT'S WHY I INCREASED IT.
BUT KNOW THAT I AM GLAD WHEN I CAN SEND MONEY BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND.
UM, IF THAT GETS LOWER THAN THAT NUMBER, IT'S JUST SO HARD FOR ME TO TELL HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA BE AND I HATE TO BE UNDER IT.
UM, I HAVE TO HOW MUCH DOES THAT BANDWIDTH COST? BANDWIDTH? UM, WITH LUMEN, UM, I JUST GOT A, A PRICE FROM THEM NOT THAT LONG AGO FOR TWO GIGABITS PER SECOND.
IF I GO FOR A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT WITH THEM, WHICH I'M REALLY HESITANT TO DO, CUZ I'VE HAD ALL KINDS OF PROBLEMS. THEY WERE AROUND $3,000 A MONTH FOR, FOR THE TWO GIGABIT.
AND THEN THERE'S THE THREE BIG GIGABIT AND FIVE GIGABIT QUOTES THAT I GOT.
AND THOSE WERE, UM, UH, JUST A, A FEW HUNDRED DOLLARS MORE SO AT THE MOST FOR FIVE GIGABIT.
FIVE GIGABIT I THINK WAS AROUND 35 OR ALMOST $4,000 A MONTH, UM, FOR FIVE GIGABIT.
SO GIVE US MORE WOULD BE WAY TO GO FOR THE FUTURE.
ESPECIALLY IF DA'S OFFICES IS DOING SO MUCH THAT DIGITAL EVIDENCE, DOWNLOADING AND UPLOADING.
I WOULD SAY THAT'D BE A WAY TO GO.
WE HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES DURING TRAINING WITH THE NEW SOFTWARE.
THAT, THAT HAD TO DO WITH THE WIFI ACCESS POINT WHERE IT WAS AT.
SO I JUST, I TALKED TO MICHAEL ABOUT IT, I EXPERIENCED IT MYSELF AND I I WAS VERY IN YOUR OFFICE.
IT WAS TERRIBLE WHEN I NEEDED TO GET ON WIFI.
IT DOESN'T REACH TO YOUR OFFICE.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA MOVE THAT MOST, MOST OF THE TIME.
EVEN MY NEW COMPUTER, WHICH YOU SAID YOU LOVE, UM, JUST GOES AWAY.
AND I HAVE RESTARTED, SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S GOING ON ABOUT THAT.
AND YOU WERE SICK, SO I DIDN'T WANT TO BUG YOU.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE RPA MONEY WILL COVER COMPUTER INFRASTRUCTURE THINGS.
THAT MIGHT COULD HELP US IF WE NEED IT.
I'M GONNA BE, UH, UH, I WANT TO ADMIT THAT I'M IGNORANT IN THAT AREA.
SO IF Y'ALL HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S SPECIALIZES IN USING THAT AND KNOWING HOW TO USE THAT, I'M ALL EARS.
CAUSE I'VE, I NEVER MY OPINION OF IT.
I'M TIRED OF Y'ALL PUTTING BANDAIDS ON STUFF.
INSTEAD OF GETTING THREE, WHY NOT GET THE FIVE AND HAVE MORE THAN YOU ACTUALLY NEED.
BECAUSE THEY'RE FIXING THE BILL SOME MORE OVER HERE IN FILL US UP.
WHAT WE SAID BUY THE ONLY THING I GOTTA BE CAREFUL WITH, MOVE TO THE PORK.
WHO I, I KNOW WHO I PAY FOR THAT FIVE GIGABIT.
I, I'VE HAD TROUBLE WITH LUMEN.
I GOTTA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S, IS THERE ANOTHER VENDOR? THERE'S OTHER VENDORS.
EVEN ONE RING IS, UH, A VENDOR
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AND I CAN CALL THEM AND GET SOMEBODY ON THE PHONE RIGHT AWAY.THAT'S WHAT I LIKE ABOUT WONDERING.
AND PICK THE ONE THAT HAS THE BEST SERVICE.
THE ONE THAT GIVES YOU GOOD TECHNICAL SUPPORT.
IF POSSIBLE,
WE AIN'T EVEN GONNA TALK ABOUT IT.
BUT ANYWAYS, I'M JUST GIVING THAT AS A, UH, SCENARIO.
GO AHEAD AND GO WITH THE FIVE, THE DOLLAR AND THEN FIND A VINEYARD.
THIS WILL GIVE YOU THE GOOD SERVICE THAT WE'RE GOING HAVE TO HAVE.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL LEAVE THAT UP TO YOU.
I I WISH YOU COULD FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET OUR CELL PHONES TO WORK IN OUR BUILDING OR AT OUR YEAH, I CAN'T, IT WON'T WORK.
YOU KNOW, THE NEXT LINE ITEM THAT I'M I'M GONNA BRING UP IS THE COMPUTER INFRASTRUCTURE LINE ITEM.
THAT'S MY SECOND TO THE BIGGEST, SECOND BIGGEST LINE ITEM ON MY INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY.
UM, EVEN PART OF THIS BIG ONE 90, UH, COST WAS FOR, UH, IN OUR JUSTICE CENTER AT THE GROUND FLOOR LETTER LEVEL.
THEY HAVE NO CELL SIGNAL AT ALL.
SO, UM, I'VE CONTACTED THE SAME GUY.
I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HAVE SEEN, SOME OF Y'ALL HAVEN'T, BUT I KNOW YOU'VE SEEN THE SAME GUY THAT PUT IN OUR, UH, TV SIGNAL FOR THE BREAK ROOMS AND STUFF JUST COMES OUT OF OVER THE AIR.
UM, THAT GUY CAN INSTALL CELL PHONE BOOSTERS, HOWEVER, IT'S TO GET AN AGNOSTIC CARRIER.
MEANING YOU COULD HAVE VERIZON, T-MOBILE AT T, WHATEVER.
UM, AND TO USE THE, UH, UH, RECOMMENDED, UH, BOOST, I SHOULDN'T SAY BOOSTER, BUT THE REPEATERS AT THE TOP.
UM, HE, HE GAVE ME A QUOTE OF $23,000 TO LIGHT UP THE WHOLE GROUND FLOOR AND AT THE BASEMENT.
THE, THE, THEY CALL IT GROUND FLOOR.
UM, TO LIGHT UP THE WHOLE THING, EVEN THE JAIL AREA, WHICH THAT NEEDS, THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO USE RADIO AND CELL PHONE IN THAT AREA.
AND THERE'S A, A SECURITY OFFICE THAT GETS NO CELL RECEPTION, SO HE COULD PUT SOMETHING IN THERE.
I THINK IT'S DUE TO THE TINTED GLASS.
UM, SO IT'S 23,000 THAT COVERS LABOR AND THE EQUIPMENT AND HIM DOING ALL OF IT.
UM, WELL, THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO.
THE WHOLE PUBLIC DEFENDERS, WE HAD AN ISSUE IN THE GROUND FLOOR NOT THAT LONG AGO.
I, I DOUBLED THAT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE COURTHOUSE RECEPTION IN THE BASEMENT.
I THINK I WENT OVER ON THAT BECAUSE THAT BASEMENT'S NOT AS BIG AS THE JUSTICE CENTER.
BUT, UM, I JUST, I JUST, IF I WENT OVER ON THAT, I CAN ADDRESS CERTAIN BUILDINGS LIKE YOURS AND, UH, I BELIEVE PRECINCT ONE, UH, FELICIA HAS ALWAYS SAID THAT THEIR BUILDING, IT'S ALL THOSE METAL BUILDINGS.
I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK ANY BUILDING WE HAVE COULD INSIDE CELL SERVICE.
NOT, WHAT SHOULD I TRY? I CHANGE PHONE.
CAUSE MY OTHER PHONE, VERIZON WOULDN'T, WON'T EVEN WORK IN MY OFFICE.
SO I HAD TO, I SWITCHED TO AT AND T AND IT'LL WORK.
I GUESS THEY MUST HAVE A CLOSER TOWER.
WELL, WHEN IT COMES TO BUDGETING FOR THAT, THAT'S, I PUT THOSE TYPE THINGS IN MY COMPUTER INFRASTRUCTURE.
UM, DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I, IN THAT BUDGET ARE ALL, ALL THE THINGS THAT I, I NEED TO PLAN FOR LIKE, UH, NEW SWITCHES, UM, FOR THE COURTHOUSE, UH, JUST FIVE CISCO SWITCHES ARE, ARE, I PUT 10 FOR 35, BUT THAT'S ACTUALLY FIVE FOR 35.
UM, AND I GOTTA START REPLACING THOSE, UM, THAT ARE END OF LIFE.
UH, I BUDGETED FOR A NEW DISTRICT COURT AND A NEW JP COURT.
UM, AND THAT'S IN MY INFRASTRUCTURE BUDGET.
ALL THEIR COMPUTERS, MONITORS AND STUFF IS IN THERE.
UH, OUR VM OUR SERVERS, UH, ANNUAL CONTRACTS THAT I DO, THAT COMES OUTTA MY INFRASTRUCTURE BUDGET.
BUT IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
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I HAVE NOTES ABOUT THAT.WHAT YOU REMODEL, EVERYTHING'S OKAY THERE.
YOU NEED SOMETHING NEW? OR DO YOU PLAN FOR ANYTHING FOR THIS? UM, AS FAR AS THE NETWORK, OH, UM, THERE'S SO MUCH ON THIS.
UH, THE CABLES THAT ARE RUN IN THE COURTHOUSE, THEY GO TO MAKESHIFT CLOSETS IN A LOT OF AREAS.
AND IF, IF IT'S EMPTY AND WE'RE RENOVATING, I WOULD LOVE IF I COULD RERUN THOSE CABLES TO ONE CLOSET UP ON THE, UH, SECOND FLOOR AND ONE CLOSET ON THE FIRST FLOOR.
HAVE ALL THE OFFICES GO TO THOSE TWO.
AND INSTEAD OF LIKE, COUNTY CLERK, COUNTY CLERK IN THEIR BREAK ROOM, THEY HAD SWITCHES THERE.
UH, JUDGE GIBBS OLD HALLWAY, THERE WAS A BOX THAT STUCK OUT.
SO I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT PLAN FOR THAT.
THE ONLY UNSURE THING WAS FURNITURE, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE Y'ALL COULD, Y'ALL COULD FIND FURNITURES SOMEWHERE.
I'M GONNA BE AT THE NEW OR AT THE RENOVATED COURTHOUSE EVENTUALLY.
SO I THINK WE HAVE PLENTY OF FURNITURE.
SO THAT WAS THE ONLY THING I WAS ACTUALLY HAVE A WHOLE ROOM FULL OF FOLD CHAIRS.
WE'VE GOT AN EXTRA CHAIR OVER THERE.
IT GOES DOWN EVERY TIME YOU SIT IN IT.
YOU THINK I ANYTHING ELSE, NATHAN? I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.
IF YOU THINK OF SOMETHING, LET KAREN KNOW.
SHE NEED TO ADD, SUBTRACT NUMBERS.
THANK, YOU'LL SEND THOSE DIGITAL COPIES TO OKAY.
ALL WE HAVE NOW IS OUR TWO JUDGES.
WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT PAGE ARE THEY ON? DID THEY CHANGE THAT MUCH? I, THE JUDGES SEND IN SHEETS.
WE HAVE JUDGE GIBSON, JUDGE GRAY AND JUDGE GIBSON.
TALKED TO WILEY ABOUT BEING A, DID SHE MENTION THE THREE YEAR VERSUS, UH, THE ONE YEAR, THREE YEAR, FIVE YEAR? I COULD TALK TO HER MYSELF.
BUT DID Y'ALL YEAH, SHE DID MENTION SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.
CUZ SHE SAID SOMETHING GUYS, SOMETHING DISCOUNT IF WE, SHE GOT A BIG DISCOUNT.
CAUSE THE FIRST YEAR WAS SHE HAD SOME FREE IN IT.
IF WE DO THE MULTI-YEAR, UH, IT'S DIFFERENT NUMBERS FOR MY RIGHT.
NOT, NOT BY AN ALARMING AMOUNT, BUT IT IS DIFFERENT.
THINK I GOT AN EMAIL THAT SAID JUDGE GIBBS WOULDN'T C**N.
YOU GOT AN EMAIL SAYING THAT? THINK IT WAS YESTERDAY.
OH, I WAS GOING DOWN BUT I, I CHECK TO SEE RIGHT QUICK.
DID SOMEBODY TEXT JUDGE GIBBS? I DON'T THINK HE'S COME.
I GOT AN EMAIL YESTERDAY SAYING THAT HE DIDN'T, WASN'T GONNA HAVE TO COME AFTER ALL.
LET ME DOUBLE CHECK HERE JUST A SECOND.
YOU THINK I SHOULD TEXT HIM AND ASK? YEAH.
JUST TO MAKE SURE I SENT ONE TO UH, THIS IS LIKE SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS.
JUDGE GRAY LOOKS LIKE NOBODY WIPED THEIR MOUTH ON IT.
YEAH, HIS BUDGET DIDN'T CHANGE HIS REQUEST.
GOT A MESSAGE HERE FROM JESSICA MORALES.
JUDGE GIBBS WILL NOT BE NEEDING TOMORROW'S BUDGET WORKSHOP.
TRACY COMING? YEAH, SHE'S NOT COMING.
I SENT HER MESSAGE, TOLD HER WE'RE AVAILABLE SO SHE WON'T TELL.
SHE TOLD ME THE DAY SHE WAS COMING.
SO DID SHE HAVE A BUDGET SHEET IN HERE? HE SAID JUDGE GIBBS SAYS, NO MA'AM, I'M NOT REQUESTING ANY CHANGES.
I TOLD MY STAFF TO COMMUNICATE THAT.
I GOT A PLUMBER COMING TO THE HOUSE.
DENISE, JUST YOU BETTER TAKE A FAT CHECK.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT AARON'S HAVING PROBLEMS MIGHT CREDIT LINE.
WELL HE FIXED THE COMMODES BECAUSE THEY WERE RUNNING, IT WOULDN'T STOP.
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BIG LEAK FROM THE METER TO THE BOX OUTSIDE AND WATER'S RUNNING IN THE STREET.WELL, AARON'S MY LIGHT, MY WATER BILL WAS $342.
YEAH, AARON'S UH, WATER HEATER BLEW OUT AT THE BOTTOM.
SO YOU HAD WATER ALL OVER THE PLACE.
IT WAS, BUT SOME STILL GOT BACK IN THE HOUSE A LITTLE BIT.
DON'T YOU FORGET TO GET, DON'T GET THE, FOR THE NEXT FEW DAYS.
YES, IT'S GONNA BE A HOT, HOLD ON.
WELL, I MEAN, WEDNESDAY, WE WEREN'T HERE YESTERDAY.
WELL WE HAVE CONCLUDED THE BUDGET HEARING FOR TODAY.
SO I NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
GUESS WHAT? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.