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GOOD MORNING

[Call to Order]

EVERYONE.

I'D LIKE TO WELCOME YOU TO THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

IT'S JULY THE FIFTH HERE AT ANNEX.

WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN THIS MORNING WITH OUR INVOCATION BY COMMISSIONER TERRY, AND THEN MIKE IS GONNA LEAD US AGAIN.

PLACE.

OKAY.

PRAY WITH HIM PLEASE.

HEAVENLY FATHER, I WANNA THANK YOU FOR THE DAY AND, UH, I WANNA THANK YOU FOR ALL THE BLESSINGS THAT WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA GET FROM IT.

I WANNA ASK YOU TO BE WITH US, UH, THIS MORNING WHILE WE DELIBERATE ALL THE BUSINESS FOR THE COUNTY AND HELP US TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS, UH, FOR THE GOOD OF ALL.

UH, WE ALSO WANNA ASK A SPECIAL, UH, PRAYER, UH, FOR, UH, OUR CONSTABLE JOHNSON AND HIS FAMILY AND, UH, HIS CONTINUED RECOVERY.

WANNA BE WITH US ALL AND KEEP US SAFE, AND, UH, ESPECIALLY BE WITH OUR FIRST RESPONDERS IN OUR MILITARY.

IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY, AMEN.

AMEN.

AMEN.

PLEDGE TO THE FLAG, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.

FOR ALL HONOR, HONOR OF THE TEXAS FLAG, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE INDIVIDUAL.

WE HAVE ANYONE SIGN UP TO SPEAK THIS MORNING? OKAY.

THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING THIS MORNING? OF COURSE.

UH, SKIPPY HERE IS THE NEW GRANDDADDY, SO WE NEED TO ON THAT.

YEAH.

PICTURES OF LOVE TO SHOW ME .

YEAH.

YEP.

YEP.

MM-HMM.

.

SO CONGRATULATIONS THAT, OH, THANK YOU.

ONLY

[CONSENT AGENDA]

CONSENT AGENDA.

WE'RE GOING CONSIDER EXCEPTION OF COMMISSION'S COURT MEETINGS FOR JUNE THE 20TH OF 2023.

21, 23, AND JUNE 23RD OF 23.

JUST CONSIDER ACCEPTANCE OF THE ONE GLOBAL TELECOM INC.

FIBER OPTIC INSTALLATION, UH, FROM 1 6 5 0 8.

CAN OF 2 48 TO 1 6 7 5 5 CAN OF 2 47.

WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON THOSE NOW.

AND THEN OUR TAX ASSESSOR IS GONNA GIVE US A REPORT ON C AND D.

SO I NEED THE MOTION ACCEPT A AND B, PLEASE.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

MR. BAR MAKES A MOTION TO YOU.

SECOND.

SECOND, MR. PHELP, MAKE A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR TO SAY AYE.

AYE.

MR. TERESA, IF

[Items 2C & 2D]

YOU'LL COME FORWARD AND SHE'S GONNA GIVE US THE REPORT ON ACCEPTING THE TAX ASSESSOR'S MONTHLY REPORT, THE TAX COLLECTIONS FOR THE REPORT FOR MAY OF 23, AND THE TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTION MONTHLY, ALL COLLECTIONS REPORT FOR MAY OF 23.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

GOOD MORNING.

MORNING, MORNING.

OKAY.

SO FOR MAY OF 23, OUR CURRENT COLLECTIONS IS 631 6 63 73.

WE COLLECTED ON DELINQUENT TAXES 64 THOU 64,900 1721 FOR A TOTAL COLLECTED OF 6 96 5 80 94.

AND, UH, DEFERRALS THAT ARE UNPAID IS 94,000 123 0 1 ON ROAD AND BRIDGE.

THE CURRENT WAS THAT WE COLLECTED WAS 122,000 1, 28 88 ARE DELINQUENT WAS 13,000 2 47 40 PER A TOTAL COLLECTED OF 1 35 3 76 28.

AND OUR UNPAID DEFERRALS IS 17,018 AND 30 CENTS.

AND THERE WAS NO ROLLBACK THIS MONTH.

HOW MANY MONTHS HAVE WE BEEN WITH WITHOUT ROLLBACKS? THIS THE SECOND MONTH.

I DON'T REMEMBER HOW MANY MONTHS IT'S BEEN.

AND UNUSUAL.

YEAH.

UM, IT IS UNUSUAL, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE HAD GOING ON.

YES.

FOR A WHILE WE HAD ROLLBACKS ALL THE TIME.

WE HAD SOME BIG BLOCKS THAT WERE ROLLBACKS.

YEAH.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO, UM, THAT'S OUR COLLECTIONS.

NOW WE DO HAVE OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR MONTHLY REPORT THAT SHOWS HOW MUCH WE'VE COLLECTED FOR, UM, THE YEAR TO DATE.

WE'VE COLLECTED 51 MILLION 2 73, 3 70 93 FOR THE M AND O.

THAT'S THE TOTAL WE'VE COLLECTED FOR THE YEAR.

AND THEN FOR THE, UM, INS, IT'S 12 MILLION 2 28 9, 12 47.

AND THEN ON THE ROAD AND BRIDGE, THE, UH, YEAR TO DATE COLLECTION IS 12 MILLION 8 0 1 4 25 AND 20 CENTS.

AND THEN ON THE DELINQUENT SIDE, WE'VE COLLECTED, YEAR TO DATE IS 1 MILLION 33, 2 33 38.

AND YEAR TO DATE ON THE ROAD ADDRESS DELINQUENT COLLECTIONS IS 217,695 AND NO CHANGE.

AND OUR PERCENTAGE IS STILL GOOD AT 97 POINT 11.

WE ARE STILL DOING GOOD.

WE'RE STILL, I THINK, EITHER RIGHT AT OR A LITTLE ABOVE WHAT WE WERE LAST YEAR.

AND THAT'S GOOD NEWS.

YES, IT IS.

SO, ANY COMMENTS? NO, NO, I'M GOOD.

OKAY.

NEED A MOTION THEN TO ACCEPT BOTH OF THESE REPORTS, C AND D ON OUR AGENDA.

I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

MR. MOORE MAKES

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THE MOTION.

NEED A SECOND? I'LL SECOND MR. NOT MAKE A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A THANK YOU.

OKAY.

DID YOU WANT THE, THE AUTO REPORT OR YES, I'M SORRY.

YOU'RE GOOD.

YOU'RE GOOD.

OKAY.

SO FOR THE MONTH OF MAY, OUR TOTAL COLLECTIONS FOR, UM, THE AUTO WAS, LET'S SEE, THE GRAND TOTAL FOR THE CURRENT YEAR IS 3 MILLION, 1 31, 9 48, AND 15 CENTS.

AND OF THAT AMOUNT COLLECTED WITH THE COUNTY GOT 223,742 AND 64 CENTS.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

OKAY.

HAVE FIRST AND SECOND.

YOU DO.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, THANKS.

THANKS.

OKAY.

NEXT

[2. John Manning; Discuss/Approve acceptance of Fiscal Year 2022 Independent Audit Report from Pattillo, Brown, & Hill, LLP with John Manning, CPA presenting.]

UP, JOHN MANNING APPROVE ACCEPTANCE OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2022 INDEPENDENT AUDIT REPORT FROM PATELLO BROWN AND HE L L P WITH JOHN MANNING PRESENT.

YES, SIR.

GOOD MORNING.

MORNING JUDGE.

MORNING COMMISSIONERS.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

UM, I BELIEVE Y'ALL HAVE A COPY OF THE, UH, AUDIT REPORT AND THE SINGLE AUDIT REPORT.

I'M GONNA GO OVER THE AUDIT REPORT FIRST IF YOU'LL LOOK AT PAGE ONE.

AND DON'T WORRY, I'M NOT GONNA GO OVER EVERY PAGE.

UM, THIS IS WHAT WE WERE HERE FOR.

THIS IS OUR INDEPENDENT ORDERS REPORT.

AND WHAT THIS STATES IS THAT THE NUMBERS BEHIND THIS REPORT ACCURATELY STATE THE DEFINED POSITION OF KAUFMAN COUNTY AS OF SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2022.

WE'VE BEEN GENERALLY TRYING TO PRESENT IN MAY OR JUNE, AND I'LL GET OVER THIS A LITTLE BIT LATER, WE'RE A LITTLE BIT LATER THIS YEAR.

THE, UM, GABY MADE US IMPLEMENT A NEW STANDARD WHERE WE HAD TO START INCLUDING SOME OF YOUR LEASE ARRANGEMENTS LIKE COPIERS.

THEY CHANGED HOW THE LEASE RULES APPLIED TO FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.

THAT'S WHERE Y'ALL CONTRACTED WITH THAT BOOK.

AND WORKING WITH THEM, THEY DID A GREAT JOB, BUT IT'S ALL BRAND NEW.

SO WE HAD TO INCLUDE ALL THOSE THINGS IN.

SO THAT TOOK, THAT'S WHAT MADE THE AUDIT TAKE A LITTLE LONGER.

IT WASN'T ANY PROBLEMS WITH PROCEDURES OR ANYTHING THAT THE COUNTY WAS DOING.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT STANDARDS WERE PUSHED DOWN ON US AND THE COUNTY.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE A LITTLE BIT LATER FOR.

BUT STILL, EVEN WITH THAT, UM, WE WERE ABLE TO OFFER AN UNMODIFIED REPORT THERE.

IF YOU'LL LOOK AT THAT FIRST PARAGRAPH, WHAT WE'RE SAYING, UM, I IS THAT, LIKE I SAID, THE NUMBERS BEHIND THIS REPORT, UM, A AGREE WITH THE COUNTY RECORDS AND THAT THERE WERE NO BIG INTERNAL CONTROL PROBLEMS OR SIGNIFICANT DEFICIENCIES OR ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE TO REPORT TO COURT.

SO, KIND OF TALKING ABOUT THIS AS A GRADE, I MEAN, THIS IS AN A AND, AND ALTHOUGH WE DO WORK WITH THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE AND THEY DO A GREAT JOB, WE WORK WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.

WE WORK WITH PURCHASING, WE WORK WITH WITH GRANTS.

WE WORK WITH THE TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR.

AND SO THIS REPORT IS REALLY A COUNTYWIDE REPORT BECAUSE THERE ARE CONTROLS PUT IN PLACE BY THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE AND BY THE COURT, IF PEOPLE DON'T FOLLOW THEM, THEY DON'T WORK.

SO, ALTHOUGH THIS IS ONLY THREE PAGES, UM, YOU DO ISSUE DEBT, YOU DO GET GRANTS, AND PEOPLE REVIEW THIS AND THEY LIKE SEEING THE UNMODIFIED REPORT, WHICH IS A LOT OF WORK.

UM, EVEN THOUGH Y'ALL HAVE HAD THAT IN THE PAST.

STARTING ON PAGE FOUR IS THE MANAGEMENT'S DISCUSSION AND ANALYSIS.

AND I, I LIKE TO GO OVER THIS PART CUZ IT DOES HAVE SOME COMPARATIVE DATE.

IF YOU'LL LOOK AT PAGE SIX, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THIS YEAR VERSUS LAST YEAR.

AND I WOULD, IF Y'ALL GET A CHANCE, GO BACK AND LOOK ABOUT 10, 12 YEARS AGO AT WHAT THE NUMBERS OF THE COUNTY LOOKED LIKE AND HOW MUCH GROWTH THE COUNTY'S EXPERIENCING.

I MEAN, THESE NUMBERS NOW WE'RE GETTING INTO YOUR TOTAL ASSETS ARE ALMOST 280 MILLION, YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW A LOT OF THAT HAS TO BE A LOT OF IT'S CAPITAL, BUT A LOT OF IT'S ALSO CASH THAT YOU GUYS HAVE STILL FROM SOME BOND PROJECTS THAT YOU GUYS ARE WORKING THROUGH.

SO, UM, AGAIN, THAT, THAT LARGE INCREASE, UH, IN ASSETS IS PREDOMINANTLY CAPITAL ASSETS WITH ALL OF THE PROJECTS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE GOING.

AND THEN THE, EVEN WITH SPENDING THAT CASH AND MAKING IT CAPITAL ASSETS, YOUR CASH IS HIGHER IN LAST YEAR PREDOMINANTLY BECAUSE OF THE 33 MILLION BOND ISSUE THAT WAS DONE IN FY 22.

UM, SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS HERE, IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR LIABILITY SECTION THERE, THEY WENT FROM ABOUT 2 23 TO 2 64.

SO THERE WERE THE NEW BONDS THAT WENT ON.

SO THAT INCREASED THE LIABILITIES, BUT YOU ALSO MADE YOUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED PAYMENTS ON YOUR OTHER BONDS.

AND THEN WE'LL GO OVER THIS IN A LITTLE BIT.

YOUR, ONE OF YOUR LONG-TERM LIABILITIES THAT YOU GUYS NORMALLY HAVE IS YOUR NET PENSION OBLIGATION.

THAT ACTUALLY IS A NET PENSION ASSET, WHICH I'LL GO OVER IN A LITTLE WHILE.

SO THAT, THAT WOULD'VE BEEN INCREASED.

IF IT NORMAL, IF IT WAS NORMAL LIKE IT HAS BEEN IN THE PAST FEW YEARS, YOUR TOTAL LIABILITIES WOULDN'T HAVE WENT UP BY EVEN MORE THAN JUST THE BONDS, BUT THEY DIDN'T.

SO THE OTHER PART OF THAT IS, IF YOU LOOK AT NET POSITION, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE.

LAST YEAR IT WAS A DEFICIT OF ABOUT 14.7 MILLION.

THIS YEAR IT'S POSITIVE 7.3 MILLION, WHICH IS A GREAT INCREASE.

UM, A LOT OF THAT DOES HAVE TO DO WITH THE PENSION VIABILITY, WHICH LIKE I SAID, I'LL GO OVER IN A MINUTE.

BUT YOU GOTTA REMEMBER A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS THAT YOU GUYS ARE ISSUING DEBT FOR, BELONG FOR ROADS THAT

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BELONG TO SOMEBODY ELSE.

SO THAT'S JUST OUTSTANDING DEBT WITH NO ASSET TO OFFSET IT.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHY THIS, THIS IS IN THAT POSITION.

BUT AGAIN, WE JUST HEARD FROM THE TAX ASSESSOR, IF YOU LOOK DOWN A LITTLE BIT BELOW ON PAGE SIX, SEE A LARGE INCREASE THERE IN YOUR TOTAL REVENUES.

UM, PROPERTY TAX COLLECTIONS, LIKE YOU SAID, WERE VERY GOOD, VERY HIGH PERCENT, UM, OF COLLECTIONS.

A LOT OF THE OTHER THINGS STAYED FAIRLY COMPARABLE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF OPERATING GRANTS.

THEN PREDOMINANTLY THAT INCREASE WAS DUE TO A LOT OF THE SPENDING OF THE ARPA FUNDS.

UM, WHICH YOU GUYS STILL HAVE LIKE 21 MILLION STILL THERE AS OF THE END OF 22.

I'M SURE Y'ALL HAVE WORKED THROUGH SOME OF THAT.

BUT REMEMBER THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT'S A LIABILITY RIGHT NOW.

YOU HAVE THE CASH AND UNTIL YOU SPEND IT, WE HAVE TO COUNT IT AS A LIABILITY.

SO AS SOON AS YOU CONTINUE TO SPEND THAT, WE'LL FLIP THAT LIABILITY TO REVENUE AND, AND THAT NUMBER WILL GO DOWN.

SO ALL IN ALL, IF YOU REALLY LOOK AT THE GOVERNMENT-WIDE STATEMENTS, WHICH IS EVERYTHING THAT THE COUNTY HAS PUT INTO ONE COLUMN, AGAIN, THAT NET ASSET POSITION IS NOW POSITIVE, WHICH IS GREAT AND CONTINUED GROWTH AND STABILITY IN YOUR REVENUES.

STILL SEEING A LOT OF CONTROLS OVER EXPENDITURES, WHICH IS REALLY GOOD.

SO ALL IN ALL, I MEAN, IF SOMEONE WAS LOOKING AT THIS YEAR VERSUS LAST YEAR, IT LOOKS BETTER.

AND LAST YEAR WAS ALREADY LOOKING PRETTY GOOD.

SO, UM, JUST WANTED TO KIND OF POINT THAT OUT AND, AND JUST LOOK AT PAGE EIGHT WHERE YOU CAN KIND OF SEE JUST, JUST HOW MUCH GROWTH IS GOING ON WITH, WITH THESE CAPITAL PROJECTS.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOUR CONSTRUCTION AND PROGRESS END OF THE YEAR AT ABOUT 72 MILLION UP FROM 23 LAST YEAR.

UM, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THAT RIGHT, TO USE THOSE THREE NEW SECTIONS THERE, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT BEFORE WITH THE WAY THAT WE WERE COUNTING SOME OF THOSE, UM, ARRANGEMENTS WHERE YOU WERE USING EQUIPMENT, COPIERS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

THEY CHANGED THE WAY WE HAVE TO REFLECT THOSE.

SO WE DID HAVE TO START PUTTING AN ASSET ON BECAUSE YOU'RE USING ANOTHER PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.

SO WE ALSO HAD A LIABILITY BECAUSE YOU'RE PAYING THAT BACK.

SO REALLY THE NET EFFECT ON YOUR ENDING POSITION WAS, WAS NOTHING.

IT WAS JUST AN ASSET AND THE LIABILITY OFFSETTING EACH OTHER, BUT THE NUMBERS ARE BIG AND THEY ARE REQUIRED.

AND THAT'S WHAT TOOK THE TIME TO CALCULATE WAS GETTING THE RIGHT NUMBERS, GETTING THE SCHEDULE SET UP TO PAY THOSE THINGS BACK AND, AND GETTING THOSE RECORDED IN THE FINANCIALS PROPERLY.

AND, AND LIKEWISE, IF YOU LOOK JUST A LITTLE BIT DOWN AT TABLE FOUR, YOU CAN SEE YOUR CHANGES IN OUTSTANDING, UM, DEBT.

YOU KNOW, YOU SEE A LOT OF THEM GOING DOWN.

YOU DID SEE THE, THE TAX ROAD BONDS SECTION INCREASE, WHICH WAS EXPECTED WITH, UM, WITH THE INCREASE OF, OF BONDS AFTER THE ISSUANCE IN 2022.

SO REALLY LOOKING VERY GOOD.

UM, IF YOU'LL LOOK AT PAGE 12, THIS IS LOOKING AT THE FINANCIALS AND A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A, OF A FORMAT THAT EVERYBODY'S USED TO.

YOU HAVE YOUR GENERAL FUND THERE, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S THE, THE LARGEST FUND OF THE COUNTY WHERE MOST OF ALL THE OPERATIONS GO THROUGH.

YOU HAVE YOUR ROAD AND BRIDGE, YOUR CONSTRUCTION PROGRESS, DEBT SERVICE.

AND THE LAST FEW YEARS WE'VE HAD TO HAVE THE ARPA FUND PRESENTED SEPARATELY THERE.

ON PAGE 13, ALL UH, FIVE OF THOSE FUNDS ARE REQUIRED TO BE PRESENTED LIKE THIS BECAUSE THEY'RE SO LARGE.

SO AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, IF YOU LOOK OVER ON PAGE 13, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S $22.8 MILLION IN THAT ARPA FUND.

AND UH, 1.2 OF THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SPENT JUST AT 9 22.

THE MONEY HASN'T BEEN PUT OUT FOR THAT YET, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE EARN REVENUE OF 21.5 MILLION THAT YOU GUYS STILL HAVE THERE THAT YOU'LL CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH WITH DIFFERENT PROJECTS.

AND THAT AGAIN, AS YOU SPEND THAT, THAT'LL BE RELIEVED FROM A LIABILITY AND BE CALLED REVENUE.

SO ALTHOUGH THIS IS A LIABILITY AND LIABILITIES ARE BAD, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALWAYS TAUGHT IN ACCOUNTING.

THIS IS A GOOD ONE BECAUSE IT'S MONEY SITTING THERE FOR YOU GUYS TO DO PROJECTS WITH.

IT'S JUST THAT'S THE WAY THEY MAKE US RECORD IT, UH, THROUGH STANDARDS UNTIL YOU SPEND IT.

UM, YES MA'AM.

I ASK A QUESTION.

UHHUH , UM, ON THIS BALANCE SHEET ON PAGE 13 MM-HMM.

, UH, ON THIS, UH, SUBSEQUENT HERE'S BUDGET OF THE 4.2 MILLION MM-HMM , I WAS TOLD TO PUT THAT IN THE BUDGET AND I KNEW I WASN'T GONNA NEED IT AND I HAVEN'T TOUCHED IT.

CAN I ADD IT BACK TO SUN BALANCE? YES, YOU CAN.

DO I NEED THE COURT ACTION TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN? NO, THIS IS DO THE ENTRY.

YES.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

THEY, WHEN I SAY THEY ACCOUNTING STANDARDS REQUIRE THAT AT THE END OF THE YEAR, YOU'VE ALREADY GOT YOUR NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET SET.

IF THE NEXT YEAR YOU ADOPT A DEFICIT POSITION, EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET THERE, IF IT'S ON RECORD AS A DEFICIT, WE HAVE TO PULL THAT PIECE OUT AND CALL IT RESTRICTED FOR SUBSEQUENT YEARS BUDGET.

CUZ WE, THEY WANT USERS TO KNOW THAT EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE ENDING FUND BALANCE IS 18.3, IF YOUR BUDGET GOES EXACTLY LIKE IT'S SUPPOSED TO, YOU'LL HAVE 4.2 MILLION LESS THAN FUND BALANCE AT THE END

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OF THE YEAR.

SO BECAUSE YOU DON'T NEED THAT THIS YEAR, YOU CAN REMOVE THAT.

I JUST WANTED TO CALL THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION BECAUSE THEN YOU WOULD ADD IT TO THE 13 MILLION.

SO THAT PUTS YOU RIGHT AT 18 MILLION IN FUND BALANCE.

YEAH.

AND, AND ALL THOSE, YES MA'AM.

AND ALL THOSE FUND BALANCES LOOK EXTREMELY HEALTHY.

I MEAN, THE GENERAL FUNDS UP OVER 18.3 MILLION, UH, YOUR ROAD AND BRIDGE IS AT 6.2.

THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS OBVIOUSLY IS A BIG INCREASE OVER LAST YEAR BECAUSE THOSE BOND FUNDS ARE SITTING THERE.

AND IN THIS FORMAT WE HAVE, WE CALL THOSE BOND FUNDS.

AND I MEAN, YOU GOTTA REMEMBER TOO BECAUSE PEOPLE WANT GOVERNMENTAL DEBT IN THEIR PORTFOLIO.

I MEAN, Y'ALL ALSO GOT A 3.3 MILLION PREMIUM, WHICH WAS JUST EXTRA CASH THAT YOU GOT BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE BONDS ARE SOLD.

SO ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE SITTING HERE AND THAT THING HAS, UH, ALMOST 88 MILLION OF CASH SITTING IN IT.

BUT THAT AGAIN, WILL CONTINUE TO BE SPENT AS YOU GUYS DO THOSE PROJECTS AND, AND MOVE FURTHER ALONG WITH THOSE DEBT SERVICE.

A LITTLE OVER 3.3 MILLION IN FUND BALANCE.

UM, WE TALKED ABOUT ARPA DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF FUND BALANCE BECAUSE ALL THE CASH IS IN THERE IS OFFSET WITH A LIABILITY.

SO REALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS, YOU KNOW, 93% OF YOUR ASSETS ARE IN CASH AND CASH EQUIVALENTS.

AND WE, ON ALL OF THOSE ACCOUNTS, ALL OF YOUR, UH, POOLS THAT YOU'RE IN, ALL OF YOUR BANK ACCOUNTS, WE CONFIRM ALL OF THAT INDEPENDENTLY WITH, WITH OUTSIDE COMPANY.

SO IT'S NOT JUST THE COUNTY SAYING, HEY, WE'VE GOT THIS MONEY.

AND WE SAY, OH, OKAY, YEAH, IT'S RIGHT HERE.

WE ACTUALLY SEND CONFIRMATIONS OUT, THEY SEND THE BANK, SENDS IT BACK DIRECTLY TO US VERIFYING THAT, THAT BECAUSE THE CASH NUMBER IS SO BIG, WE LIKE TO DO THOSE EXTRA STEPS TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT NUMBER'S CORRECT.

AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, REALLY THAT'S ABOUT ALL OF THE ASSETS THAT YOU HAVE THAT ARE REALLY BIG, YOU'RE DUE FROM OTHER GOVERNMENTS.

UM, YOU KNOW THAT THAT NUMBER'S JUST SOME GRANT MONEY AND SOME THINGS THAT, THAT ARE GONNA DO BACK.

AND AGAIN IN YOUR LIABILITIES, 7.4 MILLION OF ACCOUNTS PAYABLE, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY SERVICES THAT WERE PROVIDED PRIOR TO THE END OF THE YEAR BUT NOT YET PAID JUST CUZ OF THE LAG IN INVOICING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO A VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD LIABILITY THERE.

AND THEN AGAIN, YOU KNOW, 70% OF IT IS UNEARNED REVENUE, WHICH IS THE UNSPENT ARPA MONEY, WHICH IS VERY EASY TO CONFIRM.

SO WHAT I'M REALLY GETTING AT HERE IS, ALTHOUGH THESE NUMBERS ARE VERY BIG AND HAVE GOTTEN A LOT BIGGER THAN THEY USED TO BE, THE NATURE OF THE NUMBERS STILL MAKES THEM WHAT WE CONSIDER LOW RISK.

MEANING, YOU KNOW, YOU HEAR ABOUT THINGS LIKE ENRON WHERE THE NUMBERS WEREN'T RIGHT.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THOSE TYPE OF THINGS HERE BECAUSE THE TYPE OF THINGS THAT ARE ON A COUNTY BALANCE SHEET ARE VERY EASY TO AUDIT.

THEY TAKE A LOT OF TIME, BUT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ESTIMATES AND THINGS IN 'EM.

THEY'RE LIKE, WE CALL THE BANK, YOU HAVE 4 MILLION IN THIS ACCOUNT.

WE, WE DO THAT.

SO THESE NUMBERS ARE VERY LOW RISK, WHICH FROM OUR STANDPOINT MAKES US FEEL REALLY GOOD.

AS WE DO OUR AUDIT WORK AS THINGS CHECK OUT, WE'RE NOT HAVING TO, TO KIND OF GUESS MORE THAN WE WOULD WHERE WE ACTUALLY GET CONFIRMATION.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE 15 AND 16, AGAIN, ALL OF THE MAJOR FUNDS HERE HAD INCREASES WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS FUND.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S BECAUSE Y'ALL SPENT ABOUT 47.3 MILLION OF, UH, BOND FUNDS THAT WERE IN THERE.

AND SO EVEN WITH THE NEW BONDS THAT WERE ISSUED THERE, THAT NUMBER WENT DOWN, WHICH IS EXTREMELY REASONABLE COMPARED, UH, WITH WHAT Y'ALL ARE DOING AS FAR AS PROJECTS IN THAT FUND ROAD AND BRIDGE WENT UP, GENERAL WENT UP, DEBT SERVICE WAS JUST ABOUT EVEN, IT WENT UP ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND, WHICH IS GREAT.

UM, SO YOU'RE REALLY LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE $18 MILLION ON $57.7 MILLION OF, UH, EXPENDITURES.

SO YOUR FUND BALANCE IS ABOUT WHERE G F O A RECOMMENDS THAT, THAT AN ENTITY HAVE, THEY REALLY AT A MINIMUM WANT THREE AND A HALF MONTHS O OF RESERVE.

SO YOU GUYS ARE RIGHT ABOUT AT THAT POINT.

SO THAT'S REALLY GOOD.

UM, SO ALL IN ALL, FROM A FINANCIAL STANDPOINT, EVERYTHING LOOKS, LOOKS REALLY GOOD AND CONTINUES TO GROW.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER IS IF YOU COULD FLIP KIND OF TO THE MIDDLE OF THE REPORT, UH, PAGE 43 AND 44, IF YOU'LL REMEMBER, UM, THIS IS THE NINTH YEAR WE'VE HAD TO PUT THIS IN HERE.

ACTUARIES GO IN AND LOOK AT ASSETS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE SENT IN AS BOTH THE COUNTY AND AS THE EMPLOYEE.

THOSE FUNDS ARE HELD AT T C D R S.

THEY ESTIMATE WHAT YOUR LIABILITY IS OR HOW MUCH YOU OWE TO PEOPLE THAT ARE CURRENTLY WORKING AT THE COUNTY THAT ARE GONNA RECEIVE BENEFITS, PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY RECEIVING BENEFITS, AND JUST TRY TO GUESS OR ACTUARILY ESTIMATE

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WHAT THAT NUMBER WOULD BE.

AND IF YOU LOOK OVER ON PAGE 43, YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE 21 AND AND 20.

SO LAST YEAR, THE END OF THE YEAR, Y'ALL HAD A LIABILITY OF ABOUT 5.7 MILLION WILL THE STOCK MARKET PERFORMED AND THE ASSETS THAT T C R S PERFORMED SO WELL THAT THAT NUMBER FLIPPED TO AN ASSET, MEANING YOU HAVE MORE IN T C D R S ASSETS THAN THEY'VE ESTIMATED THAT YOU HAVE AS FAR AS WHAT YOU OWE TO YEAH.

TO, UH, RETIREES.

YEAH.

SO AGAIN, THAT IS AN ESTIMATE AND THEY DO A LOT TO TRY TO MAKE THIS NUMBER STAY SMOOTH WITHOUT IT GOING LIKE THIS.

BUT THAT'S WHAT THE MARKET DOES.

IT, IT DOES A LOT OF THIS.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT ALTHOUGH THIS IS, UH, AN ASSET, I WOULD FULLY EXPECT THAT TO REVERT BACK TO A LIABILITY NEXT YEAR BECAUSE OF THE MARKET PERFORMANCE IN 22.

SO THIS IS, AGAIN, WE'RE ALWAYS A YEAR BEHIND.

SO THESE MEASUREMENTS FOR THIS PARTICULAR LIABILITY ARE DONE AS OF DECEMBER 31ST OF 21 1.

OKAY? SO IF YOU'LL REMEMBER BACK THEN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE INVESTMENT INCOME NET OF, UH, INVESTMENT EXPENSES, THAT NUMBER WAS 22.4 MILLION.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT YOU EARNED ON THE ASSETS THAT ARE BEING HELD THERE.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT NUMBER'S BEEN AS BIG AS 9.6 MILLION LIABILITY, AND NOW IT'S A 9.7 MILLION ASSET.

SO IT, IT MOVES A LOT OVER.

AND AGAIN, WE DO HAVE TO RECORD THIS, WE DO HAVE TO HAVE THESE SCHEDULES IN.

BUT AGAIN, THIS IS A NUMBER THAT THE COUNTY'S NEVER GOING TO LIKE YOUR BONDS, WE ACTUALLY WRITE A CHECK.

THIS IS NOT THAT TYPE OF LIABILITY.

NO, IT'S AN ESTIMATE JUST LETTING PEOPLE KNOW THAT YOU HAVE A PLAN OUT THERE.

THESE PEOPLE HAVE TO BE IN IT.

AND THIS IS ESTIMATING WHAT YOU HAVE, RIGHT? BUT AGAIN, EVEN WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT WHAT ARE PEOPLE REALLY LOOKING AT THESE FOUR, IT'S LOOKING AT ARE THEY BEING FUNDED? YOU HEAR ABOUT ALL THE HORROR STORIES WHERE THEY'RE NOT FUNDED, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'VE GOT ALL THESE PLANS THAT ARE UNSUSTAINABLE.

YOU LOOK 91% FUNDED, 97% FUNDED, 108% FUNDED, 108% IS GOOD.

IT'S, YOU CAN'T DO MUCH BETTER.

SO AGAIN, BETTER THAN THAT HAVE BEEN DOING.

EXACTLY, YES.

YEAH.

AND SO EVEN WHEN IT ISN'T FULLY FUNDED, RIGHT, IT'S ESSENTIALLY FULLY FUNDED BECAUSE THEY CONSIDER ANYTHING THAT'S OVER 90% FUNDED.

FUNDED, YEAH.

LIKE WHAT THE REASON THAT PENSIONS DON'T EXIST ANYMORE IS SOME OF THE BENEFITS THAT WERE BEING ACCRUED AND, AND PROJECTED OUT WERE SO BIG THAT MARKET PERFORMANCE COULDN'T COVER THE, COULDN'T COVER THE LIABILITIES.

SO THIS T CDRS HAS RUN VERY WELL.

THEY'RE VERY CONSERVATIVE AND THEY DO REALLY GOOD WORK WITH THE MONEY THAT, THAT PEOPLE TRUST THEM WITH.

AND THEY DON'T INVEST IN WEIRD THINGS.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD, VERY CONSERVATIVE, AND UH, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT NUMBER'S GONNA MOVE AROUND WITH THE MARKET.

BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR YEAR, THAT HELPED A LOT.

UM, FLIPPING THAT FROM A LIABILITY TO AN ASSET.

IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE 51, AGAIN, ONE OF THE REASONS THAT FUND BALANCE HAS CONTINUED TO STEADILY CLIMB IS JUST BY LOOKING AT YOUR BUDGET HERE, YOU BUDGET, AS KAREN SAID, BUDGET CONSERVATIVELY.

SO YOU WERE ALMOST RIGHT ON PROJECTION WITH, UH, REVENUES ON $57 MILLION WORTH OF REVENUE.

SO THAT'S REALLY GOOD.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE IN YOUR EXPENDITURES, YOU WERE UNDER BUDGET IN EVERY SINGLE, UM, ITEM TYPE OF ITEM.

THERE WAS A COUPLE LINE, ONE LINE ITEM WAS OVER BY $3,600, BUT FOR THE MOST PART YOU STAYED UNDER EXPENDITURES BY LIKE 6.1 MILLION.

SO THAT'S REALLY GOOD.

SO EVEN THOUGH YOU WERE PROJECTING TO TO LOSE FUND BALANCE, YOU ACTUALLY GAINED IT.

SO AGAIN, WE REALLY LIKE THE CONSERVATIVE NATURE OF THE COUNTY'S BUDGETING PROCESSES.

SO, UM, ALL IN ALL ON THAT SIDE OF THE AUDIT, THINGS LOOK VERY GOOD.

UM, THE OTHER SMALL REPORT THAT KAREN PROVIDED YOU TODAY IS THE SINGLE AUDIT.

AND THAT IS, UH, BECAUSE YOU GUYS SPENT OVER 750,000 IN BOTH FEDERAL AND STATE MONIES.

AND WITH ALL OF OUR TEST WORK, WE DID HAVE TO TEST THE ARPA PROGRAM, WHICH WAS ABOUT 4.7 MILLION.

AND THEN WE HAD TO TEST THE STRUCTURAL REPAIR ACTIVITIES, FLOOD CONTROL GRANT.

AND NEITHER OF THOSE YIELDED ANY SIGNIFICANT DEFICIENCIES OR MATERIAL WEAKNESSES.

ALL THE REPORTS WERE FILED TIMELY.

ALL THE EXPENDITURES THAT WE SAMPLED AND TESTED WERE BEING SPENT ON ALLOWABLE AND APPLICABLE ITEMS. SO, UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF PLACES THAT HAVE TROUBLE WITH GRANTS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN THE CONTRACTS.

WELL, Y'ALL SEEN THEM WHEN YOU SIGN 'EM.

THERE'S A LOT OF REQUIREMENTS IN THERE.

SO THE COUNTY HAS DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB WITH MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE SUBMITTING REPORTS ON TIME,

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SPINNING THEM ON THINGS THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE SPENT ON, AND HAVING ALL OF THAT INFORMATION PULLED FOR US AND READY AND, AND WE APPRECIATE ALL THAT EFFORT.

SO ALL IN ALL, OVER THE ENTIRE COUNTY THAT WE WORKED WITH, AGAIN, WE LOOK AT BITS AND PIECES.

THERE'S TENS OF THOUSANDS OF TRANSACTIONS AND PROCESSES THAT THE COUNTY HAVE AND WE HAVE TO LOOK AT SOME OF THEM.

AND SO EVERYTHING THAT WE RAN INTO WAS, WAS IN VERY GOOD WORKING ORDER.

THE BOOKS THAT WE GET, I THINK WE'RE DOWN TO FOUR JOURNAL ENTRIES AT THE END OF THE YEAR ON A, ON AN ENTITY THIS LARGE.

UM, SO WE WORK REALLY WELL WITH THE COUNTY AUDITOR'S OFFICE.

THEY WORK WELL WITH Y'ALL AND I THINK IT JUST LEADS TO A GOOD AUDIT, UM, WITH FINANCIAL STABILITY.

AND IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE FOR.

BUT IF NOT, WE REALLY APPRECIATE WORKING WITH KAUFMAN COUNTY AND ALL THE HELP WE GET WHILE WE'RE HERE.

ANY QUESTIONS? NO, JUST THINK WE NEED TO THANK KAREN AND HER STAFF FOR DONE A GREAT JOB FOR US.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, AGREE.

THEY DO.

THEY DO A GREAT JOB.

THEY DO.

THANK YOU.

MR. MANNING.

YES MA'AM.

THANK YOU.

YES.

MOTION TO APPROVE.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION FOR YOU MR. THE MOTION.

SECOND, I'LL SECOND'S.

ALL.

THANKS JUDGE.

THANKS COMMERS.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE YOU GUYS.

THANK YOU KAREN.

MM-HMM.

,

[3. Desiree Pool; Discuss/Consider approving the amendment to the Pharmacy Benefit Management Service with 1PM.]

MS. POOL.

GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.

MORNING.

I HAD SENT ANNA ANNABELLE, UM, THE AMENDMENT TO MY IPM.

I THINK, UH, THERE'S A POWERPOINT IN THERE.

THEN ALSO THE AMENDMENT AND THEN ALSO, UM, THE EXPLANATION OF WHAT'S GOING ON.

SO BASICALLY WHAT HAPPENED IS, IS THE STATE WENT UP ON THEIR RATES.

SOME OF THE PHARMACIES DON'T AGREE WITH IT.

SO CVS AND WALGREENS ARE SOME OF THAT PHARMACY.

WE DO USE CVS.

UM, THEY DID TELL US THAT IF WE CONTINUE USING CVS, UM, THE FEE WILL BE MORE THAN WHAT THEY ARE QUOTING US.

BUT WE HAVE AGREED TO NOT USE CVS ANYMORE.

UM, SO THE FEE FOR US WILL BE $250 A MONTH.

UM, AND IT IS BASED ON HOW MANY CLIENTS WE HAVE ON OUR PROGRAM.

AND WE ARE AT, UH, 34 MIN AVERAGE.

WHAT USES THE PRESCRIPTION? SO, UM, IT'S TWO 50.

UH, I DID SEND THE CONTRACT OVER TO DEBBIE BONNER.

SHE LOOKED OVER IT.

SHE SAID EVERYTHING LOOKED GOOD FOR WITH HER.

UM, IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME OR ANYTHING, THEY SAVE US MONEY.

STILL, IF YOU NOTICED IN THERE THAT THE, THEY ARE STILL SAVING US LOTS OF MONEY.

THEY DO.

BASICALLY WHAT THEY DO IS THEY'RE THE ONES THAT NEGOTIATES WITH THE PHARMACY.

UM, THEY EVEN STILL GET OUR PEOPLE THAT, CUZ WE ONLY COVER THREE PRESCRIPTIONS A MONTH.

SO THE INDIVIDUAL CLIENTS THAT HAVE MORE THAN THREE PRESCRIPTIONS, THEY GET THEM A DISCOUNT.

SO IT'S STILL HELPING OUT.

YEAH.

SO THEY, THEY DO A LOT FOR US.

SO LOCALLY WE ONLY USE WALMART.

UH, WALMART AND THEN WE USE SOME OF THE LOCAL OUTLYING.

MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

YEAH.

THE MOM AND POPS AROUND HERE.

OKAY, WELL THAT'S, YEP.

COULD BE.

THAT'S WHAT WE, YEAH.

ANY QUESTIONS? WALMART, EVERYWHERE.

NOT NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

NEED A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

NUMBER FOUR,

[4. District Attorney, Erleigh Wiley; Discuss/Consider/Approve entering into a 3-month trial subscription with VidaNyx to consider migration and integration to VidaNyx software for the District Attorney's Office."]

MR. ATTORNEY.

UM, NO, I'LL JUST PRESENT.

SO, UM, CONSIDER APPROVED ENTERING TO A THREE MONTH TRIAL SUBSCRIPTION WITH VIDA TO CONSIDER MIGRATION AND INTEGRATION TO VIDA NICKS SOFTWARE, THE DA'S OFFICE.

THANK YOU.

AND, UM, COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE, THIS IS THE ITEM THAT JUDGE WILEY SPOKE TO YOU ALL ABOUT LAST WEEK IN THE WORKSHOP WHEN SHE DID HER BUDGET PRESENTATION.

AND IT IS BASICALLY A FREE THREE MONTH TRIAL TO MAKE SURE THAT HOWEVER VTX MANAGES OUR CASES, THAT IT IS, UM, THAT IT WORKS WELL WITH ODYSSEY AND IT WORKS WELL WITH THE, UM, LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES.

WE'RE GOING TO START OFF WITH K O AND SO THE UM, THREE MONTH TRIAL IS FREE AND IF IT WORKS WELL, WE WOULD EXPECT IN OCTOBER TO ENTER INTO A, YOU KNOW, LIKE A YEAR OR TWO YEAR LONG CONTRACT.

BUT I, I BELIEVE JUDGE WILEY PRESENTED MOST OF THE INFORMATION TO YOU ALL.

BUT WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE BEFORE THE ACTUAL COMMISSIONER'S COURT OUTSIDE OF A WORKSHOP THAT WE GOT YOUR APPROVAL ON THE THREE MONTH SUBSCRIPTION, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S NO COST TO THE COUNTY.

WELL, I THINK IT'S A GOOD PROJECT AND OPPORTUNITY TO TRY SOMETHING NEW THAT SHE EXPLAINED THAT IT SHOULD WORK VERY WELL.

BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW.

YES, YOUR HONOR.

I I THINK IT'S A BIG PLUS.

SO YEAH.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE AN ESTIMATING COST? IT'S FREE.

FREE, FREE.

AWESOME.

FREE.

WELL ZERO OVER COME OCTOBER.

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I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THAT.

I'LL SECOND.

MR. BARBER MAKES MOTION MORE.

MAY 2ND.

ALL THE FAVOR? AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

AND, AND WE HAVE TALKED WITH VITAMIX SO THAT WE HAVE A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT THE COST IS GOING TO BE IN OCTOBER.

SO THAT LET, DON'T CONFUSE OFFERS.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

[5. Commissioner Mike Hunt; Discuss/Consider motion to approve relinquishment of maintenance for County Road 260 adjacent to W ildcat Ranch Phase 4 to the Kaufman County Fresh Water Supply District 4B.]

DOWN TO NUMBER FIVE.

COMMISSIONER HUNT, DISCUSS, CONSIDER A MOTION TO APPROVE RELINQUISHMENT OF MAINTENANCE FOR KENDRA TWO 60 ADJACENT TO WILDCAT RANCH PHASE FOUR TO THE CARLTON COUNTY FRESHWATER SUPPLY DISTRICT FOUR B.

YES.

WELL, UM, WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE PLANNING ON DOING IS, UH, ACTUALLY, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS, THESE, THESE ENTITIES WHICH ARE PUBLIC SUB POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS, HAVE ACTUALLY ACCEPTED RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN THE ROADS GOING THROUGH THEIR DISTRICT.

AND SO FIVE, SIX, AND SEVEN I THINK ARE ALL, IT'S THREE OF 'EM, RIGHT? YEAH.

TO ME, YOU DO THIS ALL AT ONE TIME.

ALL THREE EM.

WELL, IT'S DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

IT'S DIFFERENT.

DIFFERENT PEOPLE DIFFERENT.

OKAY.

BUT, BUT THE GIST IS THE SAME FOR ALL.

SO WE CAN DO IT PRETTY QUICK.

SO IT'S JUST, I REALLY APPRECIATE THEM STEPPING FORWARD TO TAKE, ACCEPT THE RESPONSIBILITY.

SO ALL THE TAXPAYERS AREN'T PAYING FOR THESE CONCRETE ROADS OR FOUR LANE DIVIDED FOR CONCRETE ROADS.

EXACTLY.

AND THIS WAS A DIRT ROAD.

SO IT'S MAKING THE TRANSITION FROM A DIRT ROAD TO A CONCRETE ROAD AND THEY'RE ASSUMING THE RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE, TO BUILD THE ROAD AND TO, TO MAINTAIN IT.

SO ONE LAST ROAD ON YOUR REPORT.

WELL, I JUST THINK THAT IT'S JUST, YOU DON'T SEE THIS FROM A A, A MUD OR A SUD VOLUNTEERING TO SAY, I MEAN OUR INTERIOR ROADS ARE ONE THING, BUT A MAIN ARTERY TO GET THROUGH THEIR DEVELOPMENTS.

THEY'RE NOT RUNNING OUT THERE AND VOLUNTEERING.

SO, BUT THESE PEOPLE BROUGHT IT TO ME AND TO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES IN MONIQUE, WHICH MONIQUE AND DEBBIE DID A, A GREAT JOB MAKE THIS WORK.

SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE.

I'LL SECOND.

ALRIGHT.

RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER HUNT MAKES A MOTION.

MAKES A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NUMBER

[6. Commissioner Mike Hunt; Discuss/Consider motion to approve relinquishment of maintenance for County Road 260 adjacent to Eastland Phase la, lb, and le to the Kaufman County Municipal Utility District 9.]

SIX, COMMISSIONER HUNT AGAIN, THE MOTION TO APPROVE OR RELINQUISH MAINTENANCE FOR CANDIDATE TWO 60 ADJACENT TO EASTLAND PHASE ONE A, ONE B AND ONE C TO COMAN COUNTY MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT NUMBER NINE.

SAME THING THERE.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT MR. HUNT MAKES A MOTION.

YOU SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

AGAIN.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER MOORE.

HE BEAT YOU TOO.

BEAT ME, BUT I'LL LET HIM.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

NUMBER

[7. Commissioner Mike Hunt; Discuss/Consider motion to approve relinquishment of maintenance for County Road 260 adjacent to Highbridge Phase 1 to the Kaufman County Fresh Water Supply District 4A.]

SEVEN, COMMISSIONER HUNT ONCE AGAIN, CONSIDER A MOTION TO APPROVE FOR SSU MAINTENANCE FOR COUNTY ROAD TWO 60 ADJACENT TO HIGHBRIDGE PHASE ONE TO THE COLTON COUNTY FRESHWATER DISTRICT FOUR A.

YES SIR.

I MAKE THE MOTION MR. HUNT MAKES A MOTION.

I'LL SECOND PHILLIPS MAKES THE MOTION.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[8. Sheriff Bryan Beavers; Discuss/Consider acceptance of the Kaufman County Sheriff's Office Reports for April - May 2023.]

NOW WE HAVE OUR HIGHLY ESTEEMED SHERIFF HERE TO GIVE HIS REPORT TO US.

YES SIR.

GOOD MORNING FOR THE KIND WORDS THERE.

JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, Y'ALL HAVE GOT THE REPORTS.

I'M JUST TRYING TO GET CAUGHT UP DUE THE BUDGET AND TRYING TO GET EVERYTHING TOGETHER.

SO I GOT CAUGHT UP FOR APRIL, UH, MAY REPORTS PRETTY WELL.

UH, APRIL, IF YOU LOOK AT, UH, THE BIG THING I'M TO KIND OF HIT ON IS A RECOVER PROPERTY.

I WILL TELL YOU ONCE YOU GIVE YOUR, UH, C I D THE RANGE TO KIND OF GO OUT THERE AND DO THEIR JOB IN THE DIRECTION TO, YOU CAN NOTICE THAT WE'RE UP TO 1.8 MILLION IN RECOVERY.

SO THEY'RE REALLY GETTING AFTER IT.

AND I APPRECIATE THEIR HARD WORK.

YES.

9 1 1 CALLS.

YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE STILL UP ALMOST CLOSE TO A THOUSAND.

EVERYTHING ELSE IS KIND OF DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

UH, SO, UH, ALSO IF YOU REMEMBER CMV, I HAD THEM OUT FOR A LITTLE BIT.

ONE HAD, UH, UH, F M L A, BOTH OF 'EM WIND UP GOING OUT CAUSE THEY BOTH HAVING KIDS.

SO THAT KIND OF SLOWED DOWN.

SAME THING WITH CANINE.

WE HAD CANINES CHANGING THAT.

CAUSE THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THE NUMBERS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THEN YOU CAN SEE THE PICKUPS, UH, ARE UP QUITE A BIT IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, UH, FROM 102 LAST YEAR TO 149.

SO PICKING, PICKING UP AND EVEN OUTTA STATE HAS, HAS MOVED UP.

SO THAT, AND THEN THE MONEY COLLECTED, YOU CAN SEE IT'S NOTHING OUT OF THE NORMAL THERE.

WHEN YOU GET IN MAY, SAME THING AGAIN.

YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE, THE NUMBERS REALLY WENT UP TO 2.7 MILLION IN RECOVERY.

SO ONCE AGAIN, THEY'RE WORKING HARD GETTING AFTER OUR POPULATION IS STILL GOING UP A LITTLE BIT IN THE JAIL.

UH, EMERGENCY CALLS, YOU CAN STILL SEE THAT DIFFERENT.

UH, THE BIG THING IS YOU KIND OF NOTICE THAT WE STARTED PICKING UP ANIMALS AGAIN.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE BIG DIFFERENCE THAT WE DID.

I, I GO BACK FROM APRIL, MAY, WE PICKED UP 95 AND THEN WE PICKED UP 135

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THE NEXT MONTH.

AND THEN NOW WE DON'T HAVE ROOM IN THE SHELTER.

SO WE'RE NOT PICKING UP NOTHING .

RIGHT.

YEAH.

AND THERE YOU GO.

SAVING GAS.

WELL WE'VE STILL GOT LOTS OF DOG BITES AND EVERYTHING ELSE THEY'RE FOLLOWING UP ON.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE STILL THE PICKUP IS WE'RE AT 190 SO OUT-OF-STATE PICKUPS IS ARE IN THE STATE.

PICKUPS IS PRETTY GOOD.

AND THEN OUR, OUR NUMBERS FOR EVERYTHING ELSE IS PRETTY WELL THE NUMBER AND YOU KNOW, OVERALL THE LAST MONTHS, UH, LAST TWO STILL WITH US BEING WHAT NUMBER TWO IN THE NATION.

NUMBER ONE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

IN GROWTH.

I CAN STILL PROUDLY SAY THAT OUR NUMBERS ARE FOR OVERALL CRIME.

WE ARE STILL DOWN.

SO I'M PROUD OF THAT.

THE MEN AND WOMEN AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS WORKING REALLY HARD TO TRY TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO HELP WITH THE GROWTH THAT WE'VE GOT.

SO.

OKAY.

I SEE THAT YOU'RE STILL 34 SHARP OVERALL.

OH YEAH.

AND DOES IT LOOK LIKE ANY HELP ANYTIME SOON IN THAT ARENA? MA'AM? WE WE'RE THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX ON EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING.

I MEAN FROM THE LATERALS FOR THE EXTRA MONEY, I MEAN WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE IS DOING BESIDES DOING HIRING BONUSES, WHICH WE CANNOT DO, WE'RE LEGALLY CANNOT DO THAT.

UH, SO WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX AND DO WHAT WE'RE DOING.

AND WHICH I'VE TOLD YOU THAT IN THE BUDGET HERE AND IT'S END OF THE DAY, I THINK IS STILL IS GONNA BE THE BASELINE BOTTOM SALARY THAT WE'VE GOTTA TRY TO IMPROVE TO TRACK PEOPLE.

CAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE ALL KNOW COUNTY, WE RUN FROM CALL TO CALL TO CALL.

SO YOU GOTTA BE A WORKER AND WANNA WORK WITH US.

YEAH.

I LISTEN TO THE RADIO ON THE WEEKENDS AND AT NIGHT SOMETIMES IT'S AMAZING NUMBER OF CALLS.

IT'S CONTINUOUS.

IT'S CONTINUOUS.

NO, WHAT'S CRAZY IS HOW FAR APART SOME OF 'EM ARE DEFINITELY RUNNING FROM ONE END OF THE COUNTY DEATH.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW? YEAH.

I MEAN, ESPECIALLY FOR BACK, THEY'RE NOT IN THE SAME BLOCK.

MM-HMM.

.

WE TRY TO KEEP 'EM IN THERE, BUT THAT DON'T, DON'T, DON'T WORK OUT FAR REAL WELL.

NO.

WELL, HEY, I DID WANT TO ASK YOU, RYAN YES SIR.

ON YOUR NARCOTIC SEIZURES.

ARE Y'ALL SEEING A PARTICULAR TREND ON ANYTHING LIKE METH VERSUS WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, OR IT'S IT'S PRETTY WELL ACROSS THE BOARD OF EVERYTHING.

WE'RE SEEING THE FENTANYL'S STILL A LITTLE BIT THERE AND YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD AN OVERDOSE NOT TOO LONG AGO.

THEY, UH, ONCE AGAIN THEY SAVED ANOTHER LIFE OF FIRE DEPARTMENT.

AND SO WE'RE SEEING IT'S PRETTY WELL SAME THING.

WE'RE ALWAYS DEALING WITH YOU, YOU'RE DEALING WITH THE SAME NARCOTICS.

IT'S JUST NOTHING STANDING OUT OUTTA THE ORDINARY.

I KNOW HEROIN HAS COME BACK JUST A LITTLE BIT REALLY? WHICH IS KIND OF SHOCKING, BUT NOT IN REAL BIG NUMBERS.

BUT WE'RE SEEING IT ALL STILL THE SAME.

OKAY.

WELL, OKAY.

ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? NO, OTHER THAN THE THE PAY, I MEAN, CAUSE WHAT YOU'RE EXPERIENCING, WE'RE EXPERIENCING.

NO.

AND UH, YOU TRY TO FIND CDL DRIVERS AND YOU KNOW, IT'S KINDA EMBARRASSING WHEN YOU LOSE THEM TO HENDERSON COUNTY.

MM-HMM.

.

OH, I'M WITH YOU.

I'M WITH YOU AT THEN DID THEY FILL OUT AN APPLICATION FOR HENDERSON COUNTY AND US AND IT'S LIKE, HEY, I'M GONNA GO TO HENDERSON COUNTY.

YEAH.

WELL AND THEN THEY, AS I, AS I'VE ALWAYS SAID, COMMISSIONER IS, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY'S ONLY AS GOOD AS THIS PEOPLE.

YES.

AND WE'VE GOTTA SURROUND OURSELF WITH GOOD PEOPLE AND WE'VE GOTTA ATTRACT GOOD PEOPLE.

SO THEN YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT'S OUR BIGGEST ASSET.

THAT'S IT.

SO GET WHAT YOU FOR.

I LIKE, THAT'S IT.

AND I LIKE INVESTING IN MY PEOPLE.

YOU BET.

THAT'S OUR BEST ASSET.

OKAY.

IF NOT, NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT HIS REPORT.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

MR. BARB MAKES A MOTION.

HE SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

MR. MOORE, MAKE A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH.

OKAY,

[9. Auditor; Discuss/Consider line-item and budget transfers/corrections.]

MS. ER DISCUSS LINE ITEM AND BUDGET TRANSFERS OR CORRECTIONS.

YES.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TRANSFERS? NO.

NO.

GOOD TO ME.

OKAY.

NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE.

IT'S KEEPING EVERYBODY RUNNING.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION FOR YOU.

THANK YOU.

MR. PHE MAKES THE MOTION.

DO YOU SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

MR. MOORE.

MAY 2ND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIE FOR SKE.

I WAS WAITING FOR S***T TO SECOND.

YEAH, I WAS TOO.

HUH? .

UH, NUMBER

[10. Auditor; Discuss/Consider claims for payment and/or Financial Information as provided by the County Auditor.]

10.

DISCUSS CONSIDER CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT OR FINANCIAL INFORMATION THAT'S PROVIDED BY THE AUDITOR.

YES MA'AM.

BEFORE I GIVE YOU THE BILLS, I JUST WANTED TO TELL Y'ALL THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT IN HELPING ME GET THE SOFTWARE THAT WE NEEDED BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH AND THE THINGS REQUIRED BY GABY NOW.

AND I WANNA THANK MY GIRLS, MY STAFF, BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT GET BALANCED FRIDAY TO SEND YOU REPORTS AND THEY COME UP HERE AND WORK SATURDAY TILL WE GOT IT DONE.

AND I'M PROUD OF 'EM BECAUSE THEY'RE THAT DEDICATED TO GET THE STUFF DONE.

BUT YOUR BILLS AMOUNTED TO $4,692,422 AND 86 CENTS WITH PAYROLL OF 1,000,600 80,000 2 87 99 FOR TOTAL PAYOUT OF $6,372,710 AND 85 CENTS.

OKAY, WELL WE HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY IT.

THAT'S THE GOOD THING MR. MOORE.

WE GET TOMMY TO PAY ATTENTION.

MR. MOORE, WOULD YOU PAY ATTENTION LATER? HE'S OVER THERE TRYING TO

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JUMP THE, ANYWAY I BID ON THE MOTION.

OKAY.

THIS IS THE, THE BEGINNING OF THE MONTH.

SO WE PAY ALL THE INSURANCES FOR THE EMPLOYEES.

SO DON'T PANIC.

IT WAS 1.3 MILLION BECAUSE WE HAD TO CATCH UP MAYS HEALTH INSURANCE AND PAY JUNES.

SO THAT'S WHAT MOST OF IT WENT FOR.

RADIO TOWER CONSTRUCTION WAS 890,000.

ARPA EXPENDITURES WAS 674.

THE FACILITIES BOND WAS 544,000.

ROAD MATERIALS AND CULVERTS WAS 328,000.

SOME EQUIPMENT COST US 236 AND THE REST WAS INMATE HOUSING, INMATE MEDICAL, GAS AND OIL.

AND OUR DONATIONS, BECAUSE IT'S THE NEW QUARTER FOR THOSE, UH, COMMUNITY OUTREACHES ABOUT 73,000.

AND THEN WE DID THE LATE DAM MAINTENANCE.

RIGHT.

THAT, UH, THE GENTLEMAN BROUGHT OF 28, THEN OUR UTILITIES RAN AS 28.

OKAY.

NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE? I MOTION A MOTION.

MR. MOORE MAKES A MOTION.

THESE SECOND.

I'LL SECOND MR. FIFTH.

MAKE SECOND.

THANK YOU.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES WHAT INSIDE JOKE.

I HAVE TO CALL THE SHERIFF IN ON Y'ALL.

YEAH.

.

UH, NUMBER 11, THE WORKSHOP UPDATES ON FLOOD INFRASTRUCTURE FUND GRANT IS REQUIRED BY TEXAS WARNER DEVELOPMENT BOARD.

YES, SIR.

WELL, GOT A LITTLE BIT OF A DELAY ON HERE.

UH, FRIES NICHOLS IS GOT CAUGHT UP IN SOME TRAFFIC GETTING HERE.

THEY'RE, I JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH THEM, THEY SAID ABOUT 10 MINUTES OUT.

SO CAN WE TAKE LIKE A, WE CAN TAKE A BREAK FOR 10 MINUTES.

TAKE A 10 MINUTE BREAK.

YOU WANNA GET HERE THEN WE'LL FINISH THIS UP.

YES.

PERFECT.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

SO NOW WE WILL TAKE A BREAK.

THE GOVERNMENT.

WHOA.

YES.

THAT'S AWESOME.

OH, IT'S OKAY.

[11. Workshop - updates on the Flood Infrastructure Fund Grant as required by the Texas Water Development Board.]

WE'RE BACK IN OUR REGULAR MEETING.

UH, FRIESA NICHOLS IS HERE, SO THEY'RE GONNA GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE FLOOD INFRASTRUCTURE GRANT PROGRAM.

SO IF YOU WILL, UH, JUST GO AHEAD AND INTRODUCE HIM REAL QUICK.

GOOD.

THIS IS DAVID RIVERA.

HE'S BEEN OUR CONTACT WITH FRIESA NICHOLS THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE PROJECT.

UM, TEXAS, UH, WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD HAS A COUPLE MANDATORY PUBLIC MEETINGS AND THIS IS OUR SECOND ONE.

SO WE'RE WRAPPING THAT REQUIREMENT UP.

UH, EVERYTHING'S BEEN GOING PRETTY GOOD.

WE SUBMITTED, UH, OUR PROJECT PROPOSALS TO THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD NOT TOO LONG AGO AND THEY'RE IN THE REVIEW PROCESS RIGHT NOW.

AND ANYWAY, I'LL LET DAVID TAKE OVER.

GOOD MORNING.

MORNING, SIR.

GOOD MORNING.

EVERYONE'S, EVERYONE DOING TODAY? WE'RE GOOD.

GOOD, GOOD.

SO YEAH, SO TODAY'S KIND OF A, A REVIEW OF, UM, AND AN UPDATE ON WHAT HAPPENED BEEN HAPPENING ON THE PROJECT SINCE LAST TIME WHEN WE VISITED.

UM, SO I'LL BRING IN A FEW NEW ITEMS TODAY AND THEN ALSO I'LL REVIEW A FEW OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECTS THEMSELVES.

SOME, UM, SOME ADDITIONAL DATA THAT WOULD LIKE TO SHARE.

SO I'LL GO QUICKLY AND, AND START AGAIN KIND OF REMINDING EVERYONE WHAT WAS THE VISION THAT, YOU KNOW, THE COURT AND, AND AND STAFF, UM, SET, SET FOR THIS PROJECT.

ESSENTIALLY TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS DRAINAGE ISSUES RIGHT ACROSS THE COUNTRY, UH, COUNTY, UM, USING SUPPORT FROM THE STATE, RIGHT.

IT'S KIND OF THE, THE WHOLE IDEA BEHIND THIS AND THE GOALS OF THE PROJECT ITSELF WERE TO IDENTIFY THOSE AREAS OF GREATEST FLOOD RISK, PERFORM ANALYSIS, YOU KNOW, IN THOSE CRITICAL AREAS AND DEVELOP MITIGATION PROJECT CONCEPTS AND IDENTIFY, UM, FUTURE STUDY AREAS AS WELL.

UM, THAT WAS ALSO PART OF THE STUDY.

AND THEN POSITION THE COUNTY FOR STATE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES.

SO I THINK AT THIS POINT WE'VE PRETTY MUCH MET ALL THOSE GOALS AND I FEEL VERY, YOU KNOW, HAPPY ABOUT BEING ABLE TO SAY THAT HERE TODAY.

THAT ALL THOSE GOALS HAVE BEEN MET.

SO JUST A QUICK REMINDER, THE, UM, THE FUNDS FOR THESE STUDIES COME FROM THE FLOOD INFRASTRUCTURE FUND.

UM, THAT IS A FUND THAT IS MANAGED BY THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD.

UM, AND THIS PARTICULAR STUDY IS WHAT THEY CALL A CATEGORY ONE BASICALLY PLANNING STUDY.

UM, THEY HAVE ABOUT 135 OF THOSE APPROVED ACROSS THE STATE.

UM, ALMOST, YOU KNOW, $500 MILLION ASSIGNED TO THESE PROJECTS OUT OF THE ALMOST 800 MILLION THAT WERE ASSIGNED TO THE F I F IN THE FIRST RUN.

RIGHT.

AND THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT HAS A TOTAL COST OF 240,000.

OKAY.

THE BOARD PROVIDED THE GRANT OF 75% OF THAT COST AND THEN THE COUNTY COVERED THE REMAINING 25% WITH THE LOCAL SHARE.

GOT STUCK

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HERE.

MOVE ON.

HUH? I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S NOT MOVING.

OH, HERE WE GO.

ALL.

SO ONE NEW THING THAT I WANTED TO SHARE WITH THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT TODAY IS THAT THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN FEATURED TWICE.

UM, FIRST AT THE, UM, AS F P M NATIONAL CONFERENCE, THE ASSOCIATION OF STATE FLOOD PLAIN MANAGERS IN NORTH CAROLINA, UM, WAS ABLE TO GO THERE WITH, UM, WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD STAFF AND PRESENT THIS PROJECT AS ONE OF THEIR EXAMPLES OF HOW THEY ARE HELPING COMMUNITIES, YOU KNOW, UM, FUND SOME OF THESE STUDIES.

AND THEN NOT TOO LONG AGO IN JUNE, WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD STAFF ALSO PRESENTED THE PROJECT DURING THE TS P E CONFERENCE IN ARLINGTON ALSO KIND OF SHOWING, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE.

SO I WASN'T EVEN AWARE THAT THEY WERE GONNA DO THAT.

SO I WAS HAPPY TO HEAR THAT THEY CHOSE THIS PROJECT AS ONE OF THEIR EXAMPLES DURING THAT MEETING.

CAN YOU DEFINE THAT ACRONYM ON BOARD? THAT'S THE TEXAS SOCIETY OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS.

YEAH.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO GOING INTO THE PROJECT UPDATES, THIS IS A TASK THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THIS PROJECT SCOPE THAT WE HAVEN'T TOUCHED BEFORE.

UM, AND ESSENTIALLY IT'S THAT ITEM WHERE WE WENT AHEAD AND REVIEWED THE POLICIES, UM, UM, STORMWATER POLICIES FOR THE COUNTY AND THEN ALSO HOW ARE WE HELPING COMMUNITIES THAT ARE NOT PART OF THE NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM.

THOSE TWO ITEMS WERE INCLUDED IN THE SCOPE OF WORK.

SO STARTING OFF WITH THE STORMWATER POLICIES FOR THE COUNTY, THERE WERE A SERIES OF MEETINGS AND WORKSHOPS THAT WE DID ALONG THE ENTIRE, UM, TIMEFRAME FOR, FOR THE PROJECT WHERE WE BASICALLY SET TOGETHER AND THIS DISCUSS WHAT ARE THOSE ITEMS THAT WERE CONCERNING.

THINGS THAT WE FELT LIKE THE COUNTY NEEDED A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, CLARIFICATION AS TO HOW TO IMPLEMENT THE FLOOD PLAIN MANAGEMENT REGULATIONS.

RIGHT.

AND THERE WERE MULTIPLE MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, IN FEBRUARY OF LAST YEAR, OCTOBER, THEN IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR, KIND OF PROGRESSIVELY UNDERSTANDING MORE AND MORE OF WHAT WERE THE ITEMS OF IMPORTANCE AND HOW COULD WE PROVIDE BETTER LANGUAGE OR ADDITIONAL ITEMS IN THE FLOOD, UM, FLOOD POINT MANAGEMENT COURT ORDER.

AND THEN ALSO IN THE SUBDIVISIONS AND UM, LAND DEVELOPMENT, UM, DOCUMENTS.

SO AFTER THOSE MEETINGS WE, WE CREATED A SERIES OF RECOMMENDATIONS AND BEFORE WE SUBMITTED THEM, WE HAD A MEETING IN ON APRIL 10TH WITH THE LEGAL TEAM HERE AT THE COUNTY.

AND WE WERE JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING THAT WE WERE PLANNING ON RECOMMENDING THE COUNTY HAD THE LEGAL AUTHORITY TO ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT THEM THAT WE'RE NOT STEPPING, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE OF THE BOUNDARIES OF WHAT THE COUNTY COULD DO.

AND IN GENERAL, THOSE FIVE BULLETS THAT YOU'RE SEEING THERE, FLOOD PLAIN MANAGEMENT DEVELOPMENT IMPACTS, EASEMENTS, CONSTRUCTION SITE STORMWATER RUNOFF, AND POST-CONSTRUCTION STORMWATER QUALITY WERE THE FIVE MAJOR TOPICS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE PROVIDED AFTER THAT MEETING ONCE THEY WERE VETTED AND APPROVED BY THE LEGAL STAFF.

SO THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE SUBMITTED ON JUNE 2ND AND THE ACTUAL, YOU KNOW, CHANGING AND INCORPORATION OF THOSE COMMENTS ARE GONNA BE PERFORMED BY TEGNA IN PERKINS UNDER A SEPARATE CONTRACT THAT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE ALREADY WORKING ON THAT AND WE JUST PROVIDED FEEDBACK AND, AND OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE INCLUDED.

I'M JUST GONNA HIGHLIGHT A FEW THAT WE THINK ARE NOTEWORTHY AND IMPORTANT FOR, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, RIGHT.

STARTING HERE WITH THE SUBDIVISION AND LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, WE PROVIDED KIND OF THE DOCUMENTS LOOK LIKE THAT, RIGHT? THERE'S A LOT OF RED LINES, THERE'S A LOT OF COMMENTS, A LOT OF NEW LANGUAGE, A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, BETTER DEFINITIONS JUST TO BE SURE THAT THE COUNTY HAD A MUCH, YOU KNOW, ROBUST SET OF REGULATIONS TO GO TO WORK WITH.

THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR IS THE ADVERSE IMPACT CRITERIA.

AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IS ESSENTIALLY SAY, OKAY, WE ARE GOING TO SUBMIT OR OR REQUEST ANY DEVELOPER OR ANYBODY THAT IS DEVELOPING WITHIN OUR FLOOD PLAINS TO SUBMIT A STUDY WHERE THEY CAN PROVE THAT THERE ARE NO ADVERSE IMPACTS DOWNSTREAM OR TO ANY NEIGHBORING PROPERTY.

AND THIS LANGUAGE WILL HELP DEFINE WHAT ARE THOSE ADVERSE IMPACTS ARE, WHAT DO THEY NEED TO MEET SPECIFICALLY, YOU KNOW, WITH SPECIFIC NUMBERS, RIGHT? TO MEET, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT A PROJECT BEING HAVING NO IMPACT IN TERMS OF RAISING THE WATER SURFACE ELEVATION IN THE FLOOD PLAIN DOWNSTREAM, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT NO RISE AND NO RISE MEANS 0.00 FEET.

RIGHT? IT'S DEFINED.

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WE SEE A LOT OF TIMES THAT ENGINEERS SUBMIT THEIR STUDIES AND SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ROUND THAT UP TO WHATEVER NUMBER AND IT STAYS THE SAME.

WELL YES, BUT WE'RE GONNA TRY TO FIND WHAT FOLLOW WHAT FEMA DOES.

AND THAT'S HOW THEY DEFINE IT.

AND THE PROBLEM IS, IT'S, IT'S A SMALL NUMBER OF COURSE, BUT WHAT HAPPENED IS THAT WE TRY TO AVOID THE CUMULATIVE EFFECT OF MANY DIFFERENT PROJECTS SAYING NO, IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT, WE'RE GONNA ROUND IT.

AND, AND THAT CUMULATIVE EFFECT ENDS UP BEING A PROBLEM AT THE END OF THE DAY.

I, I HAVE A QUESTION.

I LIKE THAT CUZ THIS IS A BIG DEAL FOR ME IS THE IMPACT DOWNSTREAM IMPACT STUDIES.

YES.

BUT YOU MADE THE COMMENT THAT WE JUST HAVE, WE CAN JUST REQUIRE THAT IF THEY'RE DOING THE DEVELOPMENT IN A FLOODPLAIN.

YES.

SO IF THEY'RE NOT BUILDING, IF THEY'RE DEVELOP A DEVELOPMENT NOT IN THE FLOODPLAIN, WE CAN'T ASK THEM TO DO THIS IMPACT STUDY DOWNSTREAM.

NOT AT LEAST FROM THE, NOT WITH THE COURT ORDER.

YEAH.

THERE THERE'S A DEFINITION.

CAUSE I MEAN BOTH OF THEM MAKE AN IMPACT DOWNSTREAM.

YES.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THERE'S A DEFINITION AND, AND I THINK IT'S, IT'S OVER HERE ON THIS NEXT SLIDE ON THE FLOOD PLAIN COURT ORDER WHERE IT USED TO SAY IF YOU SEE AT THE TOP, YOU KNOW, TWO AREAS OF SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD.

SO THAT BASICALLY SAYS IF YOU'RE IN THE FEMA DEFINED FLOOD PLAIN, THEN THESE THINGS APPLY.

WE'RE CHANGING THAT TO SAY TO THE A HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD PLAIN.

SO THAT IS NOT ONLY FEMA DEFINE ANY AREA THAT IS DEFINED BY ANOTHER STUDY BY THE COUNTY THAT IT'S CONSIDERED A HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD PLAIN.

THAT'S ALSO APPLICABLE.

AND YOU COULD ALSO REQUEST ONE.

NOW IF YOU'RE OUTSIDE OF THE FLOOD PLAIN BUT YOU'RE DISCHARGING TO A FLOOD PLAIN DOWNSTREAM, THEN YOU SHOULD ALSO BE ABLE TO REQUEST TO DEMONSTRATE, BECAUSE WE'RE SAYING WHAT IS YOUR SON OF INFLUENCE? WE INCORPORATED THAT TERM IN THE REGULATIONS.

THE SON OF INFLUENCE IS THE POINT DOWNSTREAM WHERE YOUR PROJECT HAS AN INFLUENCE OVER THE FLOOD PLAN.

SO YOU COULD BE OUTSIDE ZERO.

RIGHT.

YOU, YOU COULD BE DEVELOPING UP ON A HILL.

RIGHT.

BUT YOU'RE INCREASING RUNOFF ONTO A GIVEN CREEK AND THAT'S PART OF YOUR SON OF INFLUENCE.

SO THAT AT THAT POINT THAT CREEK HAS TO BE IN THE A HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD PLAIN.

YES.

AND THEY WILL HAVE TO DEFINE IT.

RIGHT.

THAT'S, WELL KAMAN COUNTY IS IN THE A HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD PLAIN IN THE WHOLE COUNTY .

THERE YOU GO.

AND ANY KIND OF FIRST ESPECIALLY LIKE YOU SAID, HAS DISCHARGE INTO A FLOOD PLAIN AND IT'S ON THE PROPERTY LINE OF THAT PROJECT.

I'VE BEEN HAVING THEM SUBMIT TO ME IN H AND H STUDY SHOWING ANY KIND OF INCREASES OF WATER SURFACE ELEVATION, ALL THE NUMBERS YOU WOULD HAVE ON A REGULAR FLOODPLAIN DEVELOPMENT PERMIT.

YEAH.

BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT, WHAT BRINGS THE WHOLE THING TO THE HEAD IS THAT FAST MOVING WATER FROM ROOFTOPS AND STREETS THAT USED TO BE GRASSLANDS.

MM-HMM NOW I FILL THIS CREEK UP AND IT'S RUNNING, YOU KNOW, A THOUSAND TIMES FASTER THAN IT WAS AND IT'S ALSO 10 FEET DEEPER.

MM-HMM.

NOW WHEN IT GETS TO THE NEXT PLACE, IT IS QUADRUPLED THAT AND THERE MIGHT BE HOUSES IN THAT AREA AND NOW YOU FLOOD THOSE HOUSES AND YOU'RE UP THERE ON THE HILL SAYING, WELL MY HOUSE AIN'T BLOOD.

YEAH.

WELL I NO DOUBT NOW LEGALLY I, IT'S FINE AS LONG AS THE DEVELOPMENT IS IN THE COUNTY AND WE HAVE CONTROL, WHAT KIND OF REACH DO WE HAVE WITH A CITY OR INCORPORATE AREA THAT BUILDS SOMETHING THAT'S IMPACTING THE COUNTY DOWNSTREAM? DO WE HAVE ANY LEGAL REACH THERE? REALLY OUR LEGAL REACH WOULD BE TO TRY TO HAVE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH SURROUNDING COUNTIES OR CITIES THAT MIGHT IMPACT KAUFFMAN COUNTY LAND AND TRY TO SEE IF THEY WOULD WORK WITH US.

I MEAN IT WOULD BE VOLUNTARY THAT WE CAN HAVE AN AGREEMENT THAT GOES BOTH WAYS OR WE WOULD BE WILLING TO HAVE THE IMPACT STUDIES IF IT AFFECTED PROPERTY IN A NEIGHBORING COUNTY ALSO.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE MAY NEED, WANT TO WORK ON FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT.

THE GROWTH IS IN THE INCORPORATED AREAS, A LOT OF IT, ESPECIALLY INDUSTRIAL SIDE.

MM-HMM.

, YOU KNOW, THIS IS STUFF THAT I INHERITED FROM SKIPPY, BUT, BUT YOU LOVE ME.

YEAH, I KNOW, BUT, BUT I MEAN, YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE, AND I, WE NEED TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF AGREEMENTS OR SOMETHING BECAUSE WHAT EVERYTHING THEY DO IMPACTS EVERYBODY THAT DOES LIVE IN THE COUNTY.

CORRECT.

I HAVE A MEETING FRIDAY WITH UM, CHRIS SNAP WHEN YOU ENGINEER FOR THE CITY OF DARRELL.

AND WE'RE GONNA GO OVER AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THAT WE BOTH CAN AGREE UPON AND HOPEFULLY IN THAT THEY'LL GIVE US ANY KIND OF DEVELOPMENT THAT COULD AFFECT THE WATER COMING OUT OF THEIR CITY AND INTO THE UNINCORPORATED AREA.

WHY WITH KAUFMAN ALSO? I'M SORRY, HAVE YOU HAD ONE OR CAN YOU SET ONE UP WITH KAUFMAN ENGINEER ALSO? MM-HMM.

.

YES.

AND CRANDALL, WHOEVER YOU WE'RE

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REACHING OUT TO ALL OF THE CITIES.

UH, SLOWLY, BUT I WANNA WORK, THE BIGGEST IMPACT RIGHT NOW IS THE CITY OF TARRELL WITH ALL THEIR DEVELOPMENT.

IF I CAN GET THAT INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT NAILED DOWN, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD SEND TO THE OTHER CITIES.

SO WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH TARRELL TO BUILD THAT INTERLOCAL, GET LEGAL TO REVIEW IT, GET HIS PERMISSION FROM HIS END OF TOWN.

OKAY.

AND THEN THAT WILL BE THE INTERLOCAL THAT WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE ALL THE CITIES TO.

WELL, I MEAN CUZ EVEN TERRELL, WITH ALL THE GROWTH AND STUFF THEY'RE HAVING, THEY'VE GOT FOUR, IF I REMEMBER UP FOUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS.

THEY'RE DUMPING IN, IN BIG BRUSHY CREEK ALONG WITH MOTHER NATURE, PUTTING STUFF IN BIG BRUSHY CREEK AND THEN YOU GOT FOUR WATER TREATMENT PLANTS OR SEWER PLANTS DUMPING THERE, YOU KNOW, AND YOU GOT LITTLE BRUSHY CREEK, WHICH IS WHAT'S THE TE CQ REGULATES HOW MUCH THEY CAN DUMP INTO THAT CREEK DAILY.

WELL I, YEAH, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHO, I DON'T KNOW WHO MONITORS THAT.

I, YOU KNOW, I, I HAVE A REAL QUESTION OVER THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, CAUSE EVEN LIKE WIND MILL FARMS DUMPS INTO IT, YOU KNOW, IT ALL GOES TO THE SAME CREEK.

IT ALL GETS THERE.

AND OF COURSE THEY GOT IN TROUBLE BEFORE T E C Q OVER THAT SAME STUFF, DUMPING TOO MUCH WATER DAILY.

RIGHT.

OR NOT TURNING IN OR TESTING OR INSPECTIONS.

RIGHT.

YEAH.

SO TCEQ DOES HAVE THE AUTHORITY ON A LOT OF THOSE YEAH.

LARGER PROJECTS THEY'D HAVE TO SUBMIT TO T C Q, DO A PERMIT.

STORMWATER RUNOFF PERMIT.

RUNOFF PERMIT, YEAH.

RIGHT.

AND SO WE HAVE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH STEVE HUI ON HOW WE CAN BETTER MANAGE THOSE, UM, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHO'S GOING OUT AND DOING THE TESTING, WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE DISCHARGING CONSTRUCTION INTO A CREEK DOING THE, YOU HAVE TO DO WATER TESTS.

MM-HMM.

, WHO'S DOING THAT? SO WE'RE, WE'RE DOING OUR HOMEWORK TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHO'S DOING THE TESTING, WHO'S RESPONSIBLE, WHAT THE COUNTY'S JURISDICTION COULD BE ON GOING OUT THERE AND CHECKING THOSE CONSTRUCTION SITES.

SO THAT WAS ANOTHER CONVERSATION.

WE HAD A MEETING ABOUT STORMWATER.

YEP.

UM, WITH ONE OF YOUR, UH, SPECIALISTS.

OKAY.

SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT ASPECT.

WE HAVE NOT NAILED THAT DOWN YET, BUT OKAY.

TO GET MORE EDUCATED, THEN WE CAN BRING THAT BACK.

YEAH.

BECAUSE 90% OF IT'S ALL EJ, NOT REALLY, THE CITY THAT'S DOING IT IS IN THEIR ETJ BECAUSE PLANTS, BUT THEIR HEALTH PLANTS, THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO ANNEX NO MORE.

BUT YET THEY'RE CONTROLLING THE ETJ AND, AND SAYING, HEY, WELL YEAH, WE'LL, OKAY, THESE PLANS, YOU PAY US IMPACT FEES.

RIGHT.

AND WE FOR ROSE IS NOT RIGHT.

THAT'S RIGHT.

AND WE SHOULD HAVE A COUNTY STORMWATER ORDER, BUT WE DON'T.

I CAN'T FIND ONE.

SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT AS WELL.

OKAY.

SO THEN HOPEFULLY THAT WILL HELP US.

AND DAVID, YOU CAN, YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING IT PROPERLY, BUT CAN YOU NOT COPY SOME OTHER COUNTY'S OH YEAH.

THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S, LET'S DO IT THEN.

WE SHOULD PROBABLY GET THAT DONE.

YEAH.

COPY, COPY.

WE HAVE, THAT'S SOMETHING I WAS COMING, IS THAT WHERE WE'RE COMING TO TALK ABOUT? BECAUSE STEVE STORM, STEVE DOES STORMWATER.

THAT IS NOT IN MY OFFICE.

SO IT'S TWO DIFFERENT, IT ALL AFFECTS DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT'S IN TWO DIFFERENT OFFICES.

SO THAT'S A CONVERSATION WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE.

UM, YES.

SO WE'RE HOPING TO GET A STORMWATER ORDER IN PLACE.

NAVID, WOULD THAT BE ANY DEVELOPMENT IN CONSTRUCTION IN THE COUNTY? THEY'D HAVE TO FOLLOW THAT.

CORRECT.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO NOT IN THE FLOOD PLAN.

THE, THE, THE IMPORTANT CONCEPT ALWAYS TO REMEMBER IS THE SON OF INFLUENCE CONCEPT.

MM-HMM.

, YOU KNOW, IT, IT DEPENDS ON WHERE THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT'S GONNA DISCHARGE TO.

RIGHT.

AND AT THAT POINT, DO THEY HAVE AN IMPACT? RIGHT.

IF THEY'RE, LET'S SAY THEY'RE CONSIDERABLY FAR FROM THAT LOCATION MM-HMM.

, BY THE TIME IT GETS THERE, IT MAY DISSIPATE AND THEN YOU'RE GOOD TO GO.

YEAH.

BUT IT'S VERY RARE THAT FOR THAT TO HAPPEN, LIKE YOU'RE, YOU'RE GONNA DISCHARGE SOMEWHERE.

RIGHT.

UNLESS YOU'RE DISCHARGING TO THE TRINITY RIVER.

RIGHT.

THAT IS, IT'S JUST SO MASSIVE COMPARED TO WHAT YOU ARE DOING THEN MOST LIKELY ANY OTHER TRIBUTARY, ANY OTHER CREEK WILL HAVE AN IMPACT.

RIGHT.

A LOT OF TIMES OH, 'EM END UP IN THE TRINITY FROM HERE.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S THESE OR WEST CREEK, WHATEVER, SOONER OR LATER, THEY ALL MERGED TO THAT POINT.

YEAH.

AND THAT'S THE IMPORTANCE OF REQUESTING THE STUDIES.

RIGHT.

BECAUSE YOU, YOU NEED TO HAVE THAT CUMULATIVE IMPACT.

RIGHT.

RIGHT.

SO E EVERY EVERYBODY THAT'S TRYING TO DEVELOP AT, AT A LOCATION ALSO NEEDS TO CONSIDER WHAT ELSE IS AROUND ME.

RIGHT.

AND I, AND I SEE THAT A LOT OF TIMES, LIKE PEOPLE SUBMIT THEIR DEVELOPMENT PLANS, LIKE THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES DEVELOPING IN THE AREA.

I'M LIKE, HOLD ON, YOU KNOW, THESE OTHER FOLKS ARE ALSO VERY NEXT TO YOU NEED TO CONSIDER WHAT THEY ARE DOING.

SO ALL OF THAT IS PART OF THAT H AND H STUDY THAT IS BEING REQUESTED NOW.

SO THAT BRINGS A LOT OF THINGS TO THE LIGHT.

RIGHT.

AND THEY'LL HAVE TO EXPLAIN, THAT'S THE TROUBLE THAT IT WAS ALWAYS SUCH A TIGHT KNIT FLOOD PLAIN THAT THEY HAD TO TURN IN, YOU KNOW, THE IMPACTS THAT HE WAS 10 FEET OUTSIDE THE AREA OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, IT WAS SO YEAH.

THAT THEY NEVER IMPACTED ANYTHING.

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YEAH.

BUT THEY DID.

YEAH.

THEY, THEY CANNOT, YOU KNOW, THEY CANNOT INCREASE THE DISCHARGE TO A POINT WHERE NOW WITH THESE RECOMMENDED CHANGES, IT'S GONNA BE DIFFICULT TO DEMONSTRATE THAT WHAT YOU'RE DISCHARGING IN ADDITION TO WHAT IS TODAY NOT GONNA CAUSE ANY RISE.

BECAUSE NOW IT'S SO STRICT THAT, YOU KNOW, SMALL NUMBERS MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE.

YEP.

SO THERE'S, AND, AND WE'RE PART OF THE COMMON VISION, WHICH IS DOING THE TRINITY FOR, FOR THE FULL TRAINING.

SO YEAH.

BEING A PART OF THAT, WE ARE, WE HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR, THEIR, UM, UM, H AND H STUDIES.

THEY'RE THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS.

YES.

WE HAVE ACCESS CORE OF ENGINEER CONTACT.

THAT WAS PART OF THE REASON TO ENTER INTO THAT BECAUSE WE SHARE DATA ON WHAT'S GOING ON AROUND THAT RIVER.

AND, AND ALSO THE STUDIES THAT COME INTO KAUFFMAN.

AND IT'S SIMILAR, SIMILAR CRITERIA TO DETERMINE WHETHER YOUR PROJECT CAN MOVE ON OR NOT.

WITH THE COMMON VISION PROGRAM.

YES.

THEY HAVE SOME STRICT, VERY SIMILAR, VERY STRICT TOO.

AND AVIV, CAN I ASK YOU, UM, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES, WERE YOU REFERRING TO THE FEMA A HUNDRED YEAR FLOODPLAIN AND THEN A A HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD PLANE THAT IS NOT FEMA.

CORRECT.

RIGHT NOW, THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN, IT ASSUMES THAT YOU NEED TO DO THESE STUDIES ONLY WHEN YOU'RE AFFECTING A FEMA DESIGNATED FLOOD PLAIN.

SO WHEN IT SAYS AREAS OF SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD THAT IS MAKING REFERENCE TO A FEMA OFFICIAL FEMA FLOOD PLAIN.

NOW WE KNOW THAT THE COUNTY HAS A LOT OF AREAS THAT ARE NOT OFFICIALLY IN THE FEMA FLOOD PLAN, BUT THEY ARE IN THE FLOOD PLAN.

OUR STUDIES SHOW THAT VERY EASILY ON, ON EVERY SITE.

RIGHT.

THAT WE WELL, THE FEMA STUDY IS SO OUTDATED.

YES, YES.

THEY'RE ALWAYS BEHIND.

YEAH.

RIGHT.

THEY'RE ALWAYS BEHIND.

NOW, THIS PROCESS WILL HELP YOU ALSO AS DEVELOPMENT CONTINUES, CUZ YOU'RE GONNA SAY, HEY, IF, IF THERE'S NO FLOOD PLAN, WE KNOW THERE'S A CREEK THERE, THEIR ENGINEERS CAN DEFINE THAT FLOOD PLAN.

RIGHT.

AND THEN YOU CAN REVIEW.

OKAY.

THE WAY THEY DEFINE IT, DO WE AGREE THAT THAT'S APPROPRIATE? YEAH.

AND THEN THEY NEED TO COMPARE THAT VERSUS THEIR PROPOSED CONDITION, FLOOD PLAIN AND SEE HOW IT CHANGES.

RIGHT.

SO AT, AT THAT POINT, YOU CAN DECIDE WHETHER YOU WANT TO SEND THAT TO FEMA OR NOT.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

THAT'S, THAT'S IN YOUR COURT.

YOU CAN MAKE THAT DETERMINATION.

WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU USED TO, FEMA NEVER CALLED A CREEK A FLOOD PLAIN, THEY JUST CALLED IT A CREEK.

MM-HMM.

WATER RISE OUTTA THE CREEK.

BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S FLOOD PLAIN.

THAT'S WHAT THEY'D TELL YOU.

AND I'D SAY, WELL, HELLO.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU LIVE ON THE BANKS OF MISSISSIPPI, SOONER OR LATER MISSISSIPPI'S GONNA COME UP OUT OF THE RIGHT OUT OF THE BANK AND FLOOD YOU, BUT YOU'RE NOT IN THE FLOOD PLAIN.

NEXT QUESTION, I GUESS LEGAL SAYS, JUST GOING, KEEP MUDDING IT UP, Y'ALL GONNA KICK ME OUTTA HERE IN A MINUTE.

THESE MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICTS, THE MUDS AND THE SUDS TILL WE HAVE TO HAVE ANY LITTLE AGREEMENTS WITH THEM.

OR CAN WE EVEN TALK TO 'EM ABOUT THE IMPACT THAT THOSE MUDS AND SONS HAVE WITH RUNOFF? ARE THEY LIKE A CITY? I MEAN THEY, THEY'VE GOT THESE SPECIAL POWERS AND GRANTED BY THE LEGISLATURE AND STUFF, THEY CAN PRETTY MUCH DO WHAT THEY WANT.

RIGHT.

I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE TO REPORT TO THE PUBLIC UTILITY COMMISSION AND SO YEAH.

BUT THAT'S KIND OF A YEAH.

YOU KNOW, I KNOW THE, THE PUTTING ENOUGH MONEY IN THE RIGHT PLACES, IT DOESN'T MAKE MY WATER IS GASTONIA, BUT SOMEHOW WEST CEDAR CREEK BILLS ME.

RIGHT.

YEAH.

SO THE MAPS AREN'T EVEN RIGHT AT THIS TIME.

BUT, UM, WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHERE OUR JURISDICTION IS AND WHERE THEIRS IS.

AND THEN I THINK THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO SPEAK TO THE JURISDICTION, NOT THE WATER BOARDS OR THE SUDS OR MUDS.

WE HAVE TO SPEAK TO THE JURISDICTION TO SEE WHERE OUR, WHERE WE CAN HELP.

AND I THINK THAT'S HOW WE APPROACH WHERE WE CAN HELP TO ENSURE OR SEE WHERE WE CAN GET SOME AUTHORITY OVER THEM.

CUZ WE HAVE NO POWER BECAUSE IF I UNDERSTAND IT RIGHT, I MEAN T C E Q JUST, THEY MAKE AN APPLICATION TO TCEQ AND THEY SAY, SURE.

YES.

SO THAT'S WHO WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH.

RIGHT.

AND THEN THERE'S VERY LITTLE NOTIFICATION ON OUR END.

GENERALLY WHAT PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THOUGH, T C Q, IF SOMEBODY FILLS OUT AN APPLICATION, PEOPLE ARE PAYING ATTENTION AND THEY SEND IN COMPLAINTS.

OTHER WORDS IS THEY SEND IN SOMETHING COMPLAINING ABOUT THAT PERMIT, THEN THEY HOLD THE PRO PROGRESS AND START HAVING HEARINGS ON IT.

AND NOBODY WANTS THAT.

YOU KNOW, THE, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE APPLYING FOR IT, BECAUSE SOMETIMES IT TAKES YEARS TO GET THESE HEARINGS CLEARED UP.

AND THAT'S THE BEST THING FOR PEOPLE TO DO IS COMPLAIN.

THE MINUTE ONE OF THOSE PERMITS COME OUT, THEY START RAISING CANE AND SAYING, HEY, WELL THEN WHO HAD, WHO AT THE COUNTY MONITORS THOSE PERMITS THAT BE YOU? NO.

WHOSE DEPARTMENT'S GONNA MONITOR? BUT I WILL TELL YOU THIS, I HAVE GOTTEN SOME NOTICES FROM T C Q.

YEAH.

WE'VE SENT, WE'VE SENT THEM TO YOU FOR DISCHARGE BATCH CONCRETE BATCHING.

YEAH.

THERE IT'S BEEN THEY, BUT THEY GO TO STEVE.

MM.

THAT'S TO

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STEVE'S STORMWATER.

MM-HMM.

.

BUT WE, THEY'VE BEEN SENDING THEM TO OUR OFFICE AS WELL AND WE'RE ARCHIVING THEM, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY WELL I'LL ACTUALLY, I'LL ASK YOU THE MAIL LETTER WHEN I GET ONE, PUT IT ON THE SAYING THEY'RE HAVING A HEARING OVER THIS.

THERE'S BEEN A PERMIT FILED AND THEY'RE HAVING THIS HEARING MM-HMM.

AND THERE'LL BE A, UH, AN ACTUAL LETTER FROM T C Q.

YES.

THEY MAIL IT AND THEY RIGHT.

YES.

BUT THEY'LL MAIL IT TO THE COMMISSIONERS IF IT'S IN YOUR PRECINCT.

RIGHT.

UHHUH.

BUT MY, MY THOUGHT PROCESS IS, ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BE POSTING THOSE IN A PUBLIC AREA? I MEAN I POST MINE WHEN I GET 'EM.

RIGHT.

YEAH.

SO WE USUALLY ALWAYS SEND IT TO YOU GUYS.

CAUSE WE DON'T KNOW IF YOU RECEIVED IT BY MAIL, BUT THIS IS PART OF THE LEARNING CURVE IS ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BE POSTING THAT ON THE FRONT OF THE COURT IN A PUBLIC PLACE OR THE COUNTY CLERKS? WELL, LIKE THE WHAT COUNTY WEBSITE? I MEAN RIGHT.

COUNTY WEBSITE'S WHERE THEY SHOULD BE EDUCATION CUZ I HAVE NO IDEA.

AND YEAH.

AND IT'S NEVER REALLY BEEN BROUGHT BEFORE.

I KNOW THAT WE ACTUALLY STOPPED A SEWER PLANT ONE TIME OVER THERE IN POINT.

WE ACTUALLY STOPPED IT THROUGH T EEC NOTIFICATION.

NEXT THING YOU KNOW, THEY HAD TO GET THE CITY HALL TO OPEN UP THAT SO MANY PEOPLE WAS UP THERE COMPLAINING.

YEAH.

AND THEY JUST BACKED OUT OF IT COMPLETELY.

SOME OF THESE DEVELOPERS WERE MONITORED AHEAD OF US AND WENT AHEAD AND GOT PERMITS APPROVED FOR SOME OF THESE SUDS.

YEAH.

WAY BEFORE THEY EVEN COME AND FILE ANYTHING.

SO IT JUST HASN'T BEEN PUT INTO OPERATION.

BUT THE PERMIT WAS APPROVED, WAS APPROVED FIVE YEARS AGO, 10 YEARS AGO AGO THAT, THAT THING'S BEEN THERE SINCE LIKE 2010.

WELL IT'S OBVIOUSLY WE NEED TO DO SOME MORE RESEARCH ON THIS TO SEE WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO.

WELL, AND IT LOOKS LIKE TO ME THAT IF YOU APPLY FOR A PERMIT, IT ALL ONLY BE GOOD.

I DON'T CARE IF IT'S T E C Q OR WHOEVER ONLY FOR SO MANY YEARS.

IF YOU DON'T DO ANYTHING WITH IT, Y'ALL HAVE TO REAPPLY.

AND IT PROBABLY IS LIKE THAT.

WE NEED TO CHECK INTO SOME OF THOSE THINGS.

YEAH.

AND LIKE THAT TWENTY TEN ONE, SOMEBODY NEEDS TO CHECK BECAUSE I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE TO REAPPLY, BUT MAYBE NOT.

I DON'T KNOW.

OKAY.

WE'RE DOING OUR RESEARCH AND WE'VE MET WITH STEVE A COUPLE OF TIMES AND UM, BUT WE'RE JUST STILL GATHERING DATA ON HOW WE CAN YEAH.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE TROUBLE WITH GOVERNMENT IS THAT YOU APPLYING THIS OFFICE AND THEN YOU APPLY SOMETHING ELSE IN THIS OFFICE.

RIGHT.

THIS OTHER OFFICE AND NOBODY EVER COMMUNICATED TOGETHER.

AND ALL WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS GET EVERYBODY TOGETHER AND START COMMUNICATING AND GUESS WHAT? YEAH.

EVERYTHING WILL BECOME A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEAR AND UNDERSTANDING THAT WHAT'S FIXING TO HAPPEN.

MM-HMM.

, WHY DON'T YOU GET WITH STEVE AND WORK OUT SOME DETAILS AND THEN WE'LL ALL GET TOGETHER AND MEET ABOUT IT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

GO AHEAD.

OKAY, GOOD.

ALRIGHT, SO MOVING ON.

UM, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER TOPICS, RIGHT.

THAT, THAT WERE COVERED AND ALL OF THAT NOW IS LAID OUT ON THE REPORT AND I'LL GET TO THAT, UM, LATER ON.

UM, ONE ADDITIONAL THING THAT WE ARE INCLUDING IS THIS, UM, FLOOD STUDY CHECKLIST.

JUST TO MAKE THIS LIFE LOT EASIER, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A MINIMAL REQUIREMENTS, THINGS THAT THEY'RE GOT TO DO AND BE MORE OF A STANDARDIZED, YOU KNOW, PRODUCT WHENEVER YOU RECEIVE THEM FOR REVIEW.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S ANOTHER ADDITION.

VERY APPRECIATED.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO THE NEXT TOPIC THAT IS NEW IS, UM, THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD INCLUDED IN THE SCOPE OF WORK OF ALL THEIR F I F STUDIES.

UM, BASICALLY A STATEMENT SAYING THAT YOU AS THE SPONSOR NEED TO IDENTIFY ANY COMMUNITY WITHIN YOUR JURISDICTION THAT IS NOT A PARTICIPANT OF THE NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM.

AND WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IS TO SAY, OKAY, IF THEY DON'T HAVE ANY TYPE OF STANDARDS OR IF THEY DON'T IMPLEMENT AT LEAST THE MINIMUM STANDARDS AS THEY ARE REQUIRED IN THE N F I P PROGRAM, THEN THEY'RE ASKING YOU RIGHT.

TO REACH OUT TO THEM AND HELP THEM IN SOME WAY RIGHT.

TO MOVE THEM INTO THAT DIRECTION.

RIGHT.

SO THE OPTIONS THAT WERE PRESENTED TO US WERE EITHER THE COUNTY IN THIS CASE PROVIDES A TEMPLATE OF AN AN OF A ORDER OR A ORDINANCE THAT THEY COULD ADOPT.

RIGHT.

UM, OR SIMPLY TELL 'EM, WE CAN HELP YOU UNDERSTAND THIS AND WE CAN HELP YOU.

SO WITH THE OVERALL TEXAS STATE REGIONAL FLOOD PLANNING EFFORT, WE IDENTIFIED THOSE COMMUNITIES STATEWIDE.

SO IN THIS AREA, THOSE THAT ARE LISTED THERE ON GRACE, PERIO GROVE POST OF BEND ROSS AND TOTE, THOSE WERE THE COM COMMUNITIES IDENTIFIED IN THAT PROCESS.

AND THEN MONIQUE ALSO TOLD US THAT POETRY IS ANOTHER ONE.

SO WE ENDED UP WITH SEVEN COMMUNITIES WITHIN KAUFFMAN COUNTY.

AND ESSENTIALLY THESE DO NOT ENFORCE ANY TYPE OF STANDARDS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, IF THEY DO, THEY'RE NOT EQUIVALENT TO THE, THOSE MINIMUM STANDARDS.

SO THE, ALL, THE WHOLE IDEA BEHIND THIS IS TO AT LEAST SEND THEM SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD ADOPT.

RIGHT.

THEY'RE COMPLETELY

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OPTIONAL.

RIGHT.

THEY WILL MAKE THAT DECISION.

THIS IS ONLY A GOOD FAITH EFFORT FROM PART OF THE COUNTY AS PART OF THIS STUDY.

AND, UM, MONIQUE AND GARRETT ALREADY SENT EMAILS TO A LOT OF THESE COMMUNITIES.

THIS IS ONE EXAMPLE OF THE FLOOD DAMAGE PREVENTION ORDINANCE THAT THEY COULD ADOPT.

THESE ARE DRAFTED BY THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD.

THESE ARE STANDARD TEMPLATES.

IT'S FAIRLY EASY TO TAKE IT AND JUST REPLACE THE NAME OF YOUR CITY AND THROW IT IN THERE.

IT'S REALLY THE ADOPTION, RIGHT? DO THEY REALLY WANT TO DO THIS RIGHT? MM-HMM.

AND, AND INCORPORATE THAT INTO THEIR REGULATIONS.

SO, UM, WE'VE DONE OUR PART IN TERMS OF MEETING THAT SCOPE ITEM AND NOW IT'S REALLY UNDER COURT RIGHT.

TO DECIDE WHAT THEY WANT TO DO ABOUT THAT.

AND THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THE EMAILS THAT WENT OUT THAT MONIQUE AND GARRETT PREPARED, YOU KNOW, EXPLAINING WHY WE'RE REACHING OUT.

THESE ARE THE, YOU SEE THE ATTACHMENTS AT THE TOP, THE TEMPLATES THAT WERE PROVIDED AND ESSENTIALLY GIVING THEM THAT OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, USE THAT AND, AND YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY SUPPORTING THEM IF THEY HAVE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS.

UM, SO THAT, THAT WAS THE OTHER ITEM THAT WAS NEW AND IT WAS PENDING IN TERMS OF THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? OR YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THAT PROCESS? NO, I JUST THINK THAT, UM, UM, THAT WAS A GOOD ASPECT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANY ORDERS.

IF WE GIVE THEM SOMETHING KIND OF TIED UP IN A BOW, THEN THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO SPEND ANY MONEY THESE SMALLER CITIES TO CREATE THAT.

RIGHT.

AND, AND, AND IF THEY'RE FOLLOWING AT LEAST SOME TYPE OF FLOOD ORDER, THEN THEY'RE HELPING IN ANY LITTLE WAY.

SURE.

CITY NOW THEY HAVE SOME RULES THAT THEY CAN PASS OUT.

THEY'RE HELPING THEM OUT A LOT AND IT HELPS US IN THE SAME, IT HELPS US.

IT'S, IT'S WORKING TOGETHER.

RIGHT.

THEY CAN'T IT GREAT TO DO IT.

I MEAN, THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO NO, NO.

YOU KNOW, FIGURE OUT THESE PLANS AND DO THAT.

THEY CALL IF THEY NEED SOME HELP WITH THE DOCUMENT OR WHATEVER, BUT THIS WAY THEY GOT TWO OPTIONS.

THEY, WE GAVE THEM THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD TEMPLATE OR THEY COULD ADOPT KAUFFMAN COUNTY'S FLOOD ORDER.

OH, RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT.

YES.

WHICH THEY HAD THOSE TWO CHOICES, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T GIVE THEM ANY PERSUASION, BUT IF WE'RE ALL FOR DEVELOPER'S SAKES, WE'D BE HAPPY IF THEY DID OURS.

BECAUSE THEN NOW WE'RE ALL MATCHING.

RIGHT.

NO MATTER WHERE ALL SAME REGULATION IT WOULD BE CORRECT.

AS, AS IT STARTED OUT YEARS AGO.

I'M TRYING TO DO RIGHT HERE IS DO EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING.

THE TODAY IS JUST GET EVERYBODY ON THE SAME PAGE.

CORRECT.

CORRECT.

IT'S ALL WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

WE'RE NOT TRYING TO PERSUADE ANYBODY TO DO ANYTHING.

WE'RE JUST SAYING IF WE ALL GET IN THE SAME BOAT, IF Y'ALL HAVE THE SAME SET OF REGULATIONS RULES AND IT'S, IT'S JUST SIMPLE.

YEAH.

YEAH.

AND A MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE WHO I REACHED OUT TO AT THOSE EMAILS DID RESPOND SAYING THAT THEY WOULD TAKE IT TO THEIR NEXT MEETING WHENEVER THAT WAS.

AND, UH, SEEMED PRETTY APPRECIATIVE OF, OF REACHING OUT.

ARE YOU GO, DO YOU INTEND ON FOLLOWING UP WITH THAT TO SEE? YES.

OKAY.

YES, I DO.

I KNOW I HAVE A CALL THAT I NEED TO MAKE TODAY TO ONE OF THE, UH, CITIES WHO DID REACH BACK, SO.

OKAY.

GOOD DEAL.

YEAH, I'LL LIKE TO GRAB THOSE AND INCLUDE 'EM IN GOOD JOB.

APPENDIX OF THE REPORT AS WELL.

OKAY.

THE RESPONSES? NO.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S GOOD.

GOOD, GOOD.

SO, SO THOSE WERE THE NEW ASPECTS.

UM, THIS SET OF SLIDES THAT ARE COMING OUT YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE, THESE ARE THE, THE, THE PROJECTS AND HOW WE CAME TO ALL, I'LL GO QUICKLY OVER THEM JUST AS A QUICK REMINDER.

UM, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY WE STARTED WITH THE SITE VISITS.

WE WENT OUT WITH THE COMMISSIONERS TO THE FIELD AND STARTED UNDERSTANDING THE SITUATIONS AND THE AREAS OF CONCERN.

UM, A LOT OF SITES WERE VISITED AND, YOU KNOW, THE PROJECT WAS LIMITED TO SIX SITES, RIGHT.

THAT WE COULD GO INTO DETAILS.

SO WE HAD TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS OF SELECTING THE SITES.

AND WE DID SEVERAL WORKSHOPS UNTIL WE, YOU KNOW, NARROWED DOWN TO THE SIX SITES THAT WERE SELECTED AND ARE THE ONES SHOWN ON, ON THE SCREEN NOW.

SO YOU SEE THE DISTRIBUTION ON THE MAP, AND AGAIN, FOR THE MOST PART, THESE ARE ROADWAY TYPE, UM, OF PROJECTS WHERE, YOU KNOW, DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE IS UNDERSIZED, THE ROADWAYS ARE PERHAPS TOO LOW.

IN SOME AREAS THERE ARE IMPACTS TO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.

SO THAT'S ALSO PART OF THE STUDY, UM, IN, ON SOME OF THESE AREAS.

SO STARTING WITH KING STREET ROAD, OUR, OUR FIRST SITE IS AGAIN, ROADWAY OVER TOPPING, UNDERSIZED DRAINAGE STRUCTURES AND SOME PROPERTIES, ESSENTIAL PROPERTIES AT RISK.

UM, IN THIS CASE, WE ARE RECOMMENDING A NEW BRIDGE ELEVATION OF THE ROAD, UM, AND THEN SOME GRADING ALONG THE CREEK TO HELP CONVEY, UM, CONVEY THAT RUNOFF RIGHT PROPERLY AT A COST OF ABOUT 3.3 MILLION.

AND IN THIS CASE, LAST TIME, YOU GUYS HAD A LITTLE BIT OF TROUBLE SEEING THE DIFFERENCE OF EXISTING AND PROPOSED CONDITIONS.

SO I CHANGED THAT A LITTLE BIT WITH A DIFFERENT VIEW JUST TO HELP MAYBE UNDERSTAND BETTER WHAT'S GOING ON IN THIS LOCATION.

UM, ON THE LEFT SIDE, YOU SEE THE, THE EXISTING FLOOD PLAIN.

IS THAT DARKER GREEN? RIGHT? IT GOES

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A LITTLE BIT OUT COMPARED TO THE MAYBE BLUISH TYPE, UM, WHICH IS THE PROPOSED FLOOD PLAIN AFTER IMPROVEMENTS.

SO IT'S, IT'S A REDUCTION OF THE FLOOD PLAIN IN THIS AREA.

AND THEN RIGHT ALONG THE ROAD YOU SEE THAT LINE THAT IS KIND OF A PROFILE LINE FROM ZERO TO 500.

AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THE RIGHT SIDE.

SO THE GREEN LINE REPRESENTS YOUR EXISTING TERRAIN, BASICALLY THE ROAD PROFILE AND THEN THE GRAY LINE ON TOP, THAT'S THE EXISTING WATER SURFACE ELEVATION.

AND THIS IS ONLY FOR A 10 YEAR STORM.

RIGHT? SO EVIDENTLY THERE'S OVER A FOOT OF DEPTH THAT YOU WOULD SEE ON THIS ROADWAY, UH, UNDER CURRENT CONDITIONS.

THEN WHAT YOU SEE HERE AS THE SHAPE OF THIS NEW CHANNEL, IT WOULD BE THE PROPOSED TERRAIN, RIGHT? IS THAT GRADING UNDER THE BRIDGE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING, AND THEN ELEVATION OF THE ROADWAY.

AND IN THAT CASE THEN THE BLUE LINE IS WHERE THE WATER SURFACE ELEVATION WOULD BE FOR THE 10 YEAR STORM.

SO EVERYTHING IS CONTAINED RIGHT UNDER THE BRIDGE UNDER THAT CONDITION.

YOU WOULDN'T SEE ANY, YOU KNOW, ROADWAY OVER TOPPING DURING THIS STORM EVENT.

NOW YOU NEED TO REMEMBER THAT THAT'S ONLY FOR A 10 YEAR STORM.

LARGER STORM EVENTS CAN AND WILL GO OVER THE ROADWAY.

UM, BUT THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE COST OF THE PROJECT, THE NO NEGATIVE IMPACTS DETERMINATION THAT WE NEED TO DO AS PART OF THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD PROCESS COMES TO PLAY.

SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD TO RAISE MORE OF THE ROAD THAT ACCUMULATES WATER IN THE UPSTREAM SIDE, THAT RAISES THE FLOOD PLAIN ON THE UPSTREAM SIDE AND YOU CAN'T DO THAT.

SO WE HAD TO PLAY WITH THOSE ALTERNATIVE, WHAT LEVEL OF SERVICE IS REASONABLE FEASIBLE, RIGHT? AND WHEN IT GETS TO THE POINT OF, HEY, WE, WE REALLY CAN'T DO A HUNDRED YEAR SOLUTION, UM, THEN THE REGIONAL FLOOD PLANNING GROUPS CAN ACCEPT THAT AS WELL AND STILL PUT 'EM IN THE PLANT.

CUZ YOU ARE STILL REDUCING FLOOD RISK, RIGHT? SO, SO THAT'S, THAT'S JUST ANOTHER VIEW OF HOW THESE, UM, IMPROVEMENTS ARE GOING TO REDUCE THE, UM, FLOODWATERS UNDER THIS ROADWAY.

THE SECOND SITE IS ON COUNTY ROAD 3 42.

UM, THIS ONE IS VERY SIMILAR.

IT'S JUST ROAD OVER TOPPING.

THERE'S UNDERSIZED DRAINAGE STRUCTURES, SOME PROPERTIES AT RISK.

UM, AND VERY SIMILAR, RIGHT? WE NEED A NEW BRIDGE.

WE NEED ROAD ELEVATION AND CHANNEL IMPROVEMENT.

THIS IS A LITTLE, UM, SMALLER PROJECT AT 2 MILLION.

AND IN, IN THIS CASE, THIS GRAPHIC STILL SHOWS A LITTLE BIT ON THE PROPOSED SIDE HOW FLOW IS NOW BEING MORE CONCENTRATED THROUGH THE OPENING RIGHT.

THAT WE'RE WORKING ON RATHER THAN GOING OVER THE STREET.

RIGHT? SO THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY THE GOAL OF THIS PROJECT.

WE JUST RESURFACED THAT ROAD.

OKAY? I MEAN, WE JUST FINISHED IT UP.

SO, OKAY.

SO WE MIGHT LOOK AT THAT.

WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT WHEN THE TIME COMES FOR SUBMITTAL MM-HMM.

AND SAY, OKAY, NOW THESE ARE NEW CONDITIONS AND WE CAN ADJUST AND SEE IF WE CAN PERHAPS COME UP WITH A, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT COULD BE PROVIDED BASED ON NEW CONDITIONS.

UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S AN INTERESTING POINT.

ONE THING THAT I WOULD, YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND THESE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE REGIONAL FLOOD PLAN ALREADY, RIGHT? SO THEY'RE IN THERE AND YOU CAN THINK OF THAT AS A PLACEHOLDER, RIGHT? THE PROJECT IS THERE, IT'LL BE PART OF THE STATE FLOOD PLAN WHEN THE TIME COMES TO APPLY FOR FUNDING.

AT THAT POINT, YOU GET ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO REFINE YOUR SCOPE, TO REFINE YOUR COST AND SUBMIT THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH BETTER INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE WHEN THE TIME COMES, RIGHT? SO YOU'RE NOT TIED TO THE BUDGET THAT WAS SUBMITTED.

YOU KNOW, THINK ABOUT IT AS PLACEHOLDER NUMBERS AND THAT YOU'RE IN, ESSENTIALLY THAT SITE IS ELIGIBLE FOR FUNDING IN THE FUTURE.

OKAY? ON THE THIRD SIDE, UM, PLANTATION RIDGE, THIS IS WHERE YOU DO HAVE, UM, MORE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES AT RISK.

YOU CAN SEE THEM ON THIS, UM, SIMULATION RESULT HERE.

UM, BUT THE TYPICAL ISSUES THAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE OTHER SIZE APPLY HERE AS WELL.

THE DIFFERENCE HERE IS THAT ALSO YOU NEED DRAINAGE PATHWAYS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY TO KIND OF ACCUMULATE THIS AND, AND PUT 'EM INTO A PLACE THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THE PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS AND PROPERTIES.

SO THERE'S A VARIETY OF, UM, ACTIONS THAT ARE NEEDED.

A LOT OF GRADING WITHIN THAT, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY SIDE DITCHES RACING, UM, IN THIS CASE WE'RE NOT RAISING THE ROAD, WE'RE JUST ADDING NEW CULVERTS.

UM, BUT YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE MULTIPLE, UM, SOLUTIONS THAT WERE NEEDED IN THIS CASE TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THE SCREEN NOW UNDER PROPOSED CONDITION.

JUST KIND OF GATHERING THAT RUNOFF, TAKING IT OUT OF THE PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS UNDER THE ROAD, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THAT COMBINATION OF ELEMENTS WERE NEEDED IN, IN THIS CASE.

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UM, FOR COUNTY ROAD 2 43, ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE, VERY SIMILAR SITUATION AND WE NEED TO RAISE THE ROAD AS WELL HERE AND PUT SOME NEW CULVERS AND SIDE DISHES.

UM, SOME CHANNEL IMPROVEMENTS.

THIS IS ABOUT 5 MILLION.

AND IN THIS CASE, HOPEFULLY YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE BETTER THIS WAY THAT THE ROAD IS REALLY CLEAR OF ANY, YOU KNOW, FLOODING CONDITIONS.

ONCE THESE, UM, ELEMENTS ARE, ARE CONSTRUCTED AND I, I WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF REMIND AGAIN, EVERY TIME WE COME UP WITH THESE SOLUTIONS, WE HAVE TO TEST THEM VERSUS THE DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS THAT THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD HAS, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE TO DO 3, 5, 6 ITERATIONS TESTING DIFFERENT THINGS, RIGHT? AND THEN CHECKING, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IS IT FEASIBLE? ARE WE JUST GOING WAY TOO HIGH IN TERMS OF COST THAT'LL MAKE IT JUST UNFEASIBLE? SO ALL OF THAT THINKING IS, IT'S ALSO INCLUDED IN, IN THIS PROCESS FOUR FOR SITE FIVE AND VALLEY VIEW AND RAVEN HILL.

UM, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLICATED BECAUSE WE HAVE A POND DOWNSTREAM OF THE ROADWAY AND WATER BACKS UP.

UM, BUT WE HAVE A VERY SIMILAR SITUATION HERE WITH, YOU KNOW, ROAD OVER TOPPING AND UNDERSIZED DRAINAGE STRUCTURES.

UM, AND THIS ONE WAS DIVIDED INTO TWO LOCATIONS.

UM, THIS ONE IS ON, ON THE RAVEN HILLS SIDE.

UM, THE GRAPHIC IS A LITTLE JUST KIND OF A CURVE OF THE MODEL WHERE YOU CAN'T SEE IT VERY WELL, BUT THE ROADWAY IS BEING OVER TOP, UNDER EXISTING CONDITIONS FOR THIS STORM.

AND SO AGAIN, WE NEED TO PUT NEW CULVERT IN SIDE DISHES, CHANNEL IMPROVEMENTS, AND ALSO SOME, UM, MAJOR IMPROVEMENT IN TERMS OF RAISING THE ROAD, RIGHT? THAT IS NEEDED IN THIS CASE.

AND EVERY TIME YOU NEED TO DO THAT, THE COST GOES UP.

THIS IS 6.7 MILLION.

UM, AND THEN ESSENTIALLY THE OTHER ONE IS A VERY SIMILAR IMPROVEMENT WITH CULVERT SIDE DISHES AND CHANNEL IMPROVEMENTS AND ROAD ELEVATION.

SO WHEN YOU COMBINE THOSE TWO IMPROVEMENTS, THEN PRETTY MUCH YOU CLEAR THE ROAD, RIGHT? AND ALTHOUGH THEY DO HAVE BACKUP FROM THE POND DOWNSTREAM, AT LEAST IT'S HIGH ENOUGH AND IT HAS ENOUGH CONVEYANCE TO KEEP WATER UNDER THE ROAD UNDER THE PROPOSED CONDITION ON THE OTHER SIDE.

ON, ON RAVEN HILL, IT'S VERY SIMILAR IN THIS CASE.

THE, THE ROAD IS CLEAR AGAIN FROM ANY OVER TOPPING CONDITION ON THE PROPOSED, UH, SCENARIO.

THE FINAL SITE IS COUNTY ROAD 41 16.

UM, THIS IS A COMBINATION AGAIN, OF ROADWAY OVER TOPPING AND RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES BEING AFFECTED.

UM, AGAIN, IT'S A SIMILAR STORY HERE AND IN THIS CASE IT'S ESSENTIALLY A, A GRADING EXERCISE WITH THOSE SIDE DISHES CONVEYING WATER OUT AND PUTTING IT BACK INTO THE CREEK WHERE THEY USED TO BE.

THAT WAS, IT'S NOW GONE BECAUSE THE PROPERTIES WERE BUILT ON TOP OF THAT CHANNEL, RIGHT? SO WE'RE CREATING EXITS AND CONNECTIONS AND WAYS FOR THAT RUNOFF TO BE, YOU KNOW, MOVED THROUGH THE PROPERTIES, THROUGH THE SIDES OF THE PROPERTIES AND ALONG THE ROADWAY.

UM, THIS IS A LONG SEGMENT, SO OUR COST WENT UP TO $8 MILLION.

UM, BUT HERE YOU CAN SEE THE REDUCTION ALONG THE ROADWAY AND BEHIND THE PROPERTIES.

UM, SO NOW AT LEAST THERE'S A COMBINED EFFECT, RIGHT? AND WE'RE TRYING TO PUSH THAT WATER OUT INTO THE CREEK, UM, SO IT DOESN'T AFFECT THE PROPERTIES.

SO I WENT VERY FAST CUZ YOU'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE.

UM, THESE LAST SLIDES ARE MORE, AGAIN, NEW STUFF THAT I WANT TO BRING TODAY.

UM, AND THE FIRST ITEM IS THE TECHNICAL REPORT THAT IS PART OF THE DELIVERABLES.

UM, WE SUBMITTED THAT ON APRIL 17TH.

UM, THE BOARD HAS A 45 DAY PERIOD TO PROVIDE COMMENTS.

UM, THEY TOOK A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT, UM, BUT WE'RE GOOD.

IT'S, UM, WE WERE MISSING SOME FILES AND THEY REQUESTED THEM.

SO, UM, BUT NOW IT'S COMPLETE THE REVIEW.

THEY SUBMITTED IT ON JUNE 26TH.

SO WE'VE BEEN LOOKING THROUGH THOSE COMMENTS.

UM, THERE'S REALLY NOTHING MAJOR ON THE COMMENTS, THINGS THAT WE WERE KIND OF EXPECTING, THINGS WE KNEW WE HAD TO, UM, FINE TUNE.

UM, SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THAT.

UM, ALL OF THAT, THERE WAS A COMPLETE CHAPTER MISSING.

IT WAS PART OF WHAT I WAS EXPLAINING EARLIER ABOUT THE POLICIES AND THE NON N F I P COMMUNITY.

SO THAT WAS BLANK, RIGHT? SO I'M WORKING ON THAT NOW AND PUTTING THAT INTO THE FINAL REPORT.

UM, WE FEEL THAT WE SHOULD BE IN GOOD SHAPE TO SUBMIT THAT FINAL REPORT NOW IN JULY.

SO WE'LL, WE'LL MEET THAT, UM, REQUIREMENT.

UM, AND ONE THING I WANT EVERYBODY TO, TO REMEMBER IS NOW IN JULY IS ALSO WHEN THE REGIONAL FLOOD PLANS ARE GOING TO BE OFFICIALLY SUBMITTED TO

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THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD.

JULY 14TH IS NEXT WEEK, AND WE'RE DOING THE FINAL TOUCHES TO SUBMITTING EVERYTHING.

AND FROM THAT POINT, THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD, WE'RE START WORKING TOWARDS THE FIRST STATE FLOOD PLAN.

THEY DO THAT PART, WE ARE OUT OF THAT EQUATION.

THEY PUT ALL THE 15 PLANS TOGETHER INTO THE STATE FLOOD PLAN, WHICH IS DUE NEXT YEAR IN SEPTEMBER.

NOW, THE IMPORTANT THING THAT I WANTED TO BRING TODAY IS EVERYBODY WAS SAYING, OKAY, WELL WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN THAT TIMEFRAME? YOU KNOW, ALL THESE PROJECTS ARE ON THE LIST AND NOW WHAT GOOD NEWS IS THAT SENATE BILL 30 PASSED AND NOW THEY'VE ADDED 625 MILLION TO THE F I F FUND.

RIGHT? THE EXPECTATION GOT GETTING SOME MAYBE.

YEAH.

MM-HMM.

.

YEAH.

SO THE EXPECTATION WAS 400 MILLION.

THEY WERE ABLE TO GET TO THE SIX $25 MILLION MARK.

AND IT'S NOT OFFICIAL.

IT'S NOT OFFICIAL, BUT EVERYBODY'S EXPECTING THAT ONCE WE FINISH THIS REGIONAL FLOOD PLANNING PROCESS, A NEW WINDOW MAY OPEN UP FOR F I F FUNDS TO BE AVAILABLE BEFORE THE STATE FLOOD PLAN NEXT YEAR.

RIGHT.

HOW EXACTLY THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN, THE TIMEFRAME, ALL THAT, I DON'T KNOW, RIGHT? ALL WE KNOW IS THAT THERE IS A POSSIBILITY.

AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN THE PROJECTS THAT ARE ALREADY LISTED ON THE REGIONAL PLANS ARE ELIGIBLE THAT'S RIGHT.

FOR THAT FUNDING.

AND WE WILL BE ELIGIBLE AND WE WILL BE ON THAT LIST.

THAT'S RIGHT.

FIGHTING FOR THAT MONEY.

MM-HMM.

, THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING THIS.

OKAY.

EXACTLY.

SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE KIND OF FOLLOWING THE STEPS AND WE'RE IN GOOD POSITION.

WE'RE JUST WAITING.

WE'RE MONITORING THIS VERY CLOSELY TO SEE HOW THEY ARE GOING TO IMPLEMENT THIS.

UM, BUT ONCE THAT WINDOW OPENS, WE'LL BE READY.

RIGHT.

AND WE'LL, AND WE'LL, WE'LL GET THERE AND WE'LL SEE HOW IT GOES.

BUT THE, THE FUNDS ARE THERE AND THAT'S GOOD.

SO IN, IN SUMMARY, ALL THAT WE ARE DOING HERE IS DOING THE STUDIES IN A WAY THAT ARE STRATEGIC AND THAT THEY CAN FIT INTO THIS FUNDING STRATEGY, RIGHT? SO ALL THESE SIX SITES HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE PLANTS, FIVE OF THEM TO THE TRINITY OR REGION THREE, ONE OF THEM, THE ONE ON, ON THE VERY FAR NORTHEAST CORNER THAT IS ON THE SABINE SIDE.

SO THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO THE REGION FOUR, TO THE SABINE REGIONAL FLOOD PLAN.

ALL THOSE HAVE BEEN INCLUDED.

THOSE HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY THE PLANNING GROUPS AND THEY WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE STATE FLOOD PLAN EVENTUALLY.

ONE ADDITIONAL THING THAT WE INCLUDED WAS ESSENTIALLY PHASE TWO OF THIS STUDY.

WE KNOW WE HAVE MORE THAN SIX SITES THAT WE'RE INTERESTED IN.

SO THERE'S A STUDY THAT WAS ALSO INCLUDED IN THE TRINITY REGIONAL FLOOD PLAN TO CONTINUE THESE SAME EFFORTS IN THE NEXT CYCLE AND CONTINUE STUDY INSIGHTS.

SO ALL OF THOSE WILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR THAT FUTURE STATE FUNDING THROUGH THE F I F PROGRAM.

AND JUST TO CLOSE, UM, A REMINDER THAT WE HAVE OUR PROJECT WEBSITE, UM, NOW WE ALSO HAVE A LINK UNDER THE COUNTY ENGINEER PAGE.

SO THERE'S A, THERE'S A LINK WHERE YOU CAN ACCESS THE REPORT, THE PRESENTATIONS, MEETING MINUTES, ALL THAT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND THEY CAN SEE IT.

UM, SO ALL THAT IS ACTUALLY THIS PRESENTATION WAS UPLOADED THIS MORNING, SO IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SEE THAT IT'S ALREADY THERE.

UM, SO I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S ALL WE'VE GOT AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO WELL, I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING.

IT'S GOING TO HELP US AND WE GET SOME INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS WITH OUR CITIES.

WE'LL ALL BE ON THE SAME PAGE.

IT WILL MAKE LIFE MUCH EASIER AND HELP FLOODING ON NEIGHBOR TO NEIGHBOR AND CAUSING FIGHTS AND WHATEVER.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE YOU COMING, SIR.

NO PROBLEM.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

AND THE MOST IMPORTANT PART IS WE'RE GONNA BE ELIGIBLE FOR ALL THIS MONEY.

THAT'S TRUE.

YEAH.

AND THAT'LL, THAT'LL BE GOOD NEWS NO MATTER WHERE THEY GO.

THAT'S RIGHT.

IT'S GOING, IT'S GOING TO, IT'S GONNA HELP.

OKAY.

EXCELLENT.

NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN? I'M GONNA, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

AYE, MR. PHIS MADE THAT MOTION.

SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

MR. BARB MC.

SO ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THANK YOU GENTLEMEN.

THANK YOU.