Aug 08, 2023 Commissioners Court

EVER NOTICE THAT.

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ALRIGHT.

[Call to Order]

THE JUDGE'S ABSENT TODAY, HE HAD, UH, HE HAD SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT TO DO.

AND, UH, SO WE'RE GONNA GET ON WITH THE NOTICE HERE.

AND, UH, THIS IS A REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE THING ON AUGUST 8TH, 2023, NINE O'CLOCK, OUR NORMAL TIME.

AND SO WE'RE GONNA DO THE INVOCATION AND THE PLEDGE.

AND I THINK COMMISSIONER MOORE'S GOING TO DO THE PRAYER.

AND, UH, COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER MIKE, YOU DIDN'T WANNA BE MIKE OR HUNT? NO, EITHER ONE.

OKAY.

WHATEVER HE WANTS TO BE, HE'S GONNA DO THE PLEDGES.

SO, BILL, ALL PRAISE RISE FOR US.

THANK YOU.

LET SPRING.

LORD GRACIOUS, HEAVENLY FATHER, LORD, AGAIN, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY AGAIN TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY IN THIS CAPACITY.

LORD, WE ASK THAT DECISIONS MADE TODAY WILL BE BASED ON YOUR DECISIONS.

IT'S LED ON OUR HEARTS.

LORD, WE JUST THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL OF OUR COUNTY EMPLOYEES AND THE JOBS THAT THEY DO.

LORD, WE PRAY FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND OUR MILITARY ACROSS THE WORLD.

LORD, WE JUST THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE LOVE THAT YOU SHOW US EACH AND EVERY DAY WE PRAY.

DISTAIN YOUR SON'S HOLY NAME.

AMEN.

AMEN.

I PLEASURE TO FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND TWO ARE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL HONOR, TEXAS FLAG OF ATIONS TO TEXAS.

ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVIDUAL.

THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH.

ALL READY?

[1. ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE]

UM, I THINK THE JUDGE HAD A KAUFFMAN COUNTY, UH, ECONOMIC SUMMIT THAT IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED IN, IN, UH, GOING TO WILL BE IN KAUFMAN CIVIC CENTER.

AND I WAS LOOKING FOR THE DATE.

I THINK IT'S, UH, AUGUST 10TH AND IT'S NINE TO 1:00 PM AND TICKETS ARE LIKE $25 A PIECE.

AND THEY'LL HAVE A FEW GREAT SPEAKERS THERE AND, AND TALK ABOUT ALL THE WONDERFUL THINGS THAT ECONOMIC SUMMITS DO.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE REALLY BEEN TO ONE, BUT THAT'S WHEN IT'S GONNA BE.

AND THEN ALSO, LET'S SEE.

UH, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY DID.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ON ANYBODY ELSE? NO.

WANT TO KNOW ON THE WAY OVER HERE? IT SPRINKLED ON ME THOUGH.

IT DID THIS MORNING.

IT DIDN'T CURL.

YEAH.

YEAH.

YEAH.

AND I, I, I WAS KIND OF SHOCKED.

I STUCK MY HAND OUT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT WAS.

MM-HMM.

, MAYBE IT WAS A PACK OF BIRDS, BUT IT WASN'T.

SO.

ANYWAY, SO WE'LL MOVE ON

[2. CONSENT AGENDA]

AND, UH, WE HAVE OUT OF MAY TO DISCUSS ACCEPTING COMMISSIONER'S COURTS MEETINGS FROM AUGUST 1ST AND BE FOR SPECTRUM FIBER FIBER TO GO ACROSS COUNTY ROAD.

THE C WILL BE, UH, THE PERMIT TO SEPARATE LOCATIONS ON COUNTY ROAD 1 36 NEAR POST OAK DEVELOPMENT AND D DISCUSSED CONSIDERING INCREASED DISTRICT CLERK PASSPORT PHOTO FEE TO $20.

AND SO DOES ANYBODY WANNA DISCUSS ANY OF THOSE SEPARATELY OR PASS 'EM ALL IN ONE? AND IF WE DO I NEED A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO PASS.

I HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER.

I'LL SECOND AND THE OTHER COMMISSIONER OVER HERE.

COMMISSIONER HUNT AS SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

A AYE.

ALL RIGHT.

NUMBER THREE.

[3. Teressa Floyd; Present/Accept the Tax Assessor-Collector's monthly Property Tax Collections report for June 2023.]

OKAY.

SO IN JUNE WE COLLECTED, UM, CURRENT TAXES 3 360 9,000 836 97.

SORRY, I COULDN'T WRAP MY TONGUE AROUND THAT.

DELINQUENT TAX, UH, 65,000 446 20 TO MAKE A TOTAL COLLECTED OF 435 283 17 ON THE ROAD AND BRIDGE.

THE CURRENT COLLECTION WAS 73,000 836 78, DELINQUENT 13,000 489 64 FOR A TOTAL COLLECTED OF 87 3 26 42.

AND WE DO HAVE SOME DEFERRALS THAT ARE UNPAID.

UM, WE DID A TOTAL OF 2009 88 TRANSACTIONS,

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AND WE'RE STILL RIGHT AROUND THE SAME PLACE WE WERE THE YEAR BEFORE ON COLLECTIONS.

SO.

ALL RIGHTY.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE REPORT OTHER THAN IT'S VERY GOOD.

LIKE NORMAL ? ANYTHING MAKE? NO SIR.

WELL THEN, UH, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO, UH, ACCEPT IT.

I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

COMMISSIONER MOORE MAKES SOME MOTION.

I'LL SECOND COMMISSIONER HUNT.

SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALRIGHT,

[4. Teressa Floyd; Present/Accept the Tax Assessor-Collector's monthly Auto Collections report for June 2023.]

ONE MORE TIME TO PRESENT THE S THE TAX COLLECTOR'S AUTO COLLECTIONS REPORT FOR 2023.

OKAY.

SO FOR THE MONTH OF JUNE, WE COLLECTED 2 MILLION, UH, EIGHTY EIGHT HUNDRED, SIX HUNDRED AND SIXTY 9040 CENTS.

NOPE.

THAT WAS, YEAH, THAT WAS THE TOTAL.

AND THEN, UM, FOR THE SALES TAX, SORRY ABOUT THAT.

THE ACTUAL COLLECTOR WAS 3,212,000 91 70.

AND THEN OF THAT COLLECTED, WE PAID THE COUNTY 169,000 836 65 FOR THE MONTH OF JUNE.

ALRIGHT.

THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING THROUGH.

A LOT OF PEOPLE COME THROUGH.

ALRIGHT.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE HONOR REPORT? NO.

IF NOT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION FROM, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

ALL RIGHTY.

HAVE ONE MOTION.

I'LL SECOND.

YOU'LL SECOND.

ALL ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

A.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT,

[5. Teressa Floyd; Discuss/Consider approval for the collections for 2023 for Kaufman Public Improvement PID No.2.]

AND THIS IS THE DISCUSS AND IMPROVE THE COLLECTION.

NO.

YEAH, THE COLLECTIONS OF THE CAMAN COUNTY PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT P FOR NUMBER TWO.

P NUMBER TWO.

THAT'S ANOTHER CONTRACT WE HAD COME IN THAT WANTS US TO COLLECT THEIR TAXES.

SO I JUST NEED THE APPROVAL OF THE COURT AND WE'LL COLLECT THEIR TAXES FOR AND WHERE IS, WHERE IS PI NUMBER TWO? IT'S UH, IT'S IN THE KAUFMAN AREA 'CAUSE OH, IT IS IN THE COFFMAN.

THE KAUFMAN.

MM-HMM.

I JUST WONDERING.

I DIDN'T, DON'T KNOW.

ALRIGHT.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON WE'RE DOING THE COLLECTION AND I GUESS THE CONTRACT'S THE SAME AND YES, EVERYTHING, BUT ALRIGHT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

COMMISSIONER MOORE'S GONNA MAKE A MOTION.

I'LL SECOND COMMISSIONER BARBARA SECONDS.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

A THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU TERESA.

[6. Monique Hunter; Discuss/Consider approving subdivision regulation amendments, flow charts, and checklists.]

AND I GUESS SOME OF IT'S CHANGED A LITTLE BIT.

I DID LOOK AT SOME OF IT THE OTHER DAY.

TRIED TO FOLLOW THAT.

ALL THAT BLUE THAT YOU HAD MARKED OUT.

RED LINES ARE THE IMPORTANT ONES.

THE RED ONES ARE THE IMPORTANT ONES, IMPORTANT ONES.

SO, AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS A LIVING DOCUMENT, CORRECT? RIGHT.

WE, WE HAD THESE DRAFTED IN 2019, AND AS WE MOVE THROUGH DEVELOPMENT, WE FIND THINGS THAT NEED CORRECTION, CLARIFICATION.

UM, AND AS WELL AS LEGISLATION CHANGING, IT SOMETIMES GIVES US MORE AUTHORITY OR ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OPINIONS.

THIS IS TAYLOR SUTTON.

I'M SURE ALL OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH HER WITH TE KNOLL AND PERKINS.

UH, SHE AND I KIND OF COLLABORATE ON THE AMENDMENTS, WHAT WE'RE GONNA MOVE, WHAT WE'VE SEEN, WHAT WE NEED TO CHANGE.

AND WE KIND OF WORK THOSE OUT.

SHE'LL DRAFT THEM, I REVIEW THEM, LEGAL REVIEWS THEM, AND THEN WE BRING THEM TO COURT TO GET APPROVED AND ENTERED INTO THAT DOCUMENT.

SO, UM, I BROUGHT, NORMALLY I WOULD PRESENT THESE TO YOU, BUT THERE WAS SOME CONCERNS OVER SOME OF OUR AMENDMENT CHANGES, OR AT LEAST THOUGHT THAT WE WERE CHANGING.

UM, AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS HAD A LOT OF CLARITY BASED OFF YOUR CONCERNS.

SO, UM, TAYLOR IS IN THIS, IN THIS DOCUMENT EVERY DAY.

I WOULDN'T SAY SHE'S MEMORIZED IT, BUT SHE'S PRETTY DARN CLOSE.

AND SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS CONCERNING THAT, UM, SHE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE AS WELL AS THE, UM, UH, THE CASE LAW.

UM, DEBORAH BONNER HAS REVIEWED THAT AND SHE CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR YOU.

SO I'LL LET TAYLOR HANDLE THAT PART.

IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.

WELL, I GUESS JUST GO AHEAD AND STEP RIGHT INTO IT.

WELL, THE WETLANDS MM-HMM.

CONTROVERSY DEAL OR NOT, NOT A CONTROVERSY, BUT CONCERNS THAT WERE EXPRESSED.

SO I GUESS YOU DID GET YOUR LEGAL OPINIONS.

AND SO THE CASE LAW THAT WAS CITED BY, UH, THE COUNTY SURVEYOR REFERS TO A CASE OUT OF THE SUPREME COURT, WHICH BASICALLY SAYS THAT THE GOVERNMENT HAS TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT THEY DECLARE TO BE WETLANDS.

IN OUR CASE, WE'RE NOT DECLARING ANYTHING TO BE WETLANDS.

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MM-HMM.

OKAY.

AND THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT, THERE'S DIFFERENT CLASSES OF WETLANDS.

THERE ARE.

SO, UM, AND, AND, AND THEY'RE USING TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE.

IS THAT THE ONLY, IT'S THE ONLY REFERENCE THAT THEY HAVE.

THE US PARKS, THE US PARKS AND WILD US PARKS AND WILD, I'M SORRY.

MM-HMM.

.

BUT IS THAT THE ONLY REFERENCE THAT THEY HAVE TO LOOK AT THE WETLANDS? NO, I THINK THERE ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT MAPS THAT GARRETT HAS SOLD.

NOT JUST THAT ONE.

THAT'S JUST THE ONE THAT WE'RE ASKING THEM TO CONSULT BEFORE THEY TALK TO GARRETT ABOUT WHATEVER ISSUE THEY MIGHT HAVE WITH THEIR FATHER.

OKAY.

BECAUSE WHEN I WAS IN A MEETING LAST WEEK AND THE WAYLAND STILL CAME UP AND IT IS KINDA LIKE I WAS SCRATCHING MY HEAD AND I NEVER REALLY HEARD THAT DEALT WITH IN A DEVELOPMENT MEETING UNTIL THAT DAY.

AND THEN OF COURSE WE GOT THESE IN THE UPDATES AND STUFF.

SO, SO, BUT IT IS AN ACCURATE REFERENCE THAT, THAT THEY'RE UTILIZING.

IT'S A GOOD RESOURCE.

SO EVEN THE WETLANDS MAP THAT'S PROVIDED, NOT EVERYTHING THAT'S DESIGNATED ON THERE IS NECESSARILY WETLANDS IS JUST NOW CONSIDERED POTENTIAL WETLANDS.

AND THAT'S DUE TO SOME RECENT REVISIONS FROM COURT CASES.

SO THAT'S PART OF THE STRUGGLE IN DEFINING THE WETLANDS IS THAT THAT DOES CHANGE.

SO THE RECENT COURT CASE THAT WAS REFERENCED, SACKETT VERSUS E P A, DID CHANGE THAT DESIGNATION TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF AREAS THAT CLASSIFIES THAT.

SO THE COUNTY DOES NOT WANT TO MAKE ANY ATTEMPT TO DEFINE WHAT IS WETLANDS THAT'S OUTSIDE THE COUNTY'S AUTHORITY.

WE'RE NOT TRYING TO DO THAT AT ALL.

THE DEVELOPERS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN FEDERALLY OBLIGATED TO FOLLOW THE WETLANDS REGULATIONS.

WE JUST HAVEN'T MENTIONED IT BEFORE.

IT'S MORE OF A F Y I AS A COURTESY TO THE DEVELOPER TO LET THEM KNOW WE DON'T REGULATE THIS.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE ANY PROOF THAT YOU'VE GONE THROUGH AND GOTTEN A PERMIT OR TELL US IF IT IS OR ISN'T WETLANDS.

BUT JUST SO YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS MAPPER AND YOU SEE THAT THERE'S A DESIGNATED POTENTIAL AREA ON YOUR PROPERTY, YOU SHOULD PROBABLY LOOK INTO THAT SO THAT YOU DON'T GET IN TROUBLE WITH THE E P A AND THE US ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS.

BASICALLY ALL WE'RE DOING IS MAKING THEM AWARE THAT THEY CORRECT.

IT MIGHT BE AT THEIR BEST INTEREST TO FOLLOW UP ON THIS JUST TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE IN THE CLEAR OR IF THEY TO DO SOMETHING.

AND THEN ON THE CHECKLIST, NOW THE ITEM THAT WE ADDED ON THERE THAT REFERENCES THE MAPPER, THAT'S JUST A CHECK BOX FOR THE DEVELOPER TO SAY, I'M AWARE THAT I SHOULD CHECK IF MY PROPERTY IS WITHIN WETLANDS OR NOT.

THIS MAPPERS A GOOD RESOURCE.

IF MY PROPERTY IS WITHIN WETLANDS, I PROMISE I'M GONNA GO DO WHAT I SHOULD DO.

AND THAT'S JUST A CHECK SOME BALANCES.

SO IF AT ANY POINT THE US ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS OR THE EPA A COMES OUT AND SEES SOMEONE'S FILLED OR EXCAVATED IN WETLANDS ILLEGALLY, AND THEN THAT DEVELOPER OR PROPERTY OWNER SAYS, OH, WELL I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE WETLANDS REGULATIONS WERE.

THEY DID NOT, THEN THE COUNTY HAS THIS DOCUMENTATION, WELL, YOU CHECK THIS BOX, WE'RE NOT REGULATING IT.

BUT THEN THAT KIND OF HELPS THE COUNTY ALSO LOOK OUT FOR THE E P A IN EXCHANGE.

'CAUSE IF SOMEBODY DOES THAT, THEY COULD BE POTENTIALLY POLLUTING THE WATERS IN KAUFMAN COUNTY, WHICH DOES AFFECT THE WHOLE COUNTY AND THE PUBLIC IN GENERAL.

SO WE CAN'T REGULATE THE WETLANDS, BUT WE CAN TRY TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO CHECKS AND BALANCE.

SAY, HEY, MAKE SURE YOU LOOK AT THIS.

AND THAT'S REALLY THE MOST THAT THE COUNTY HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DO.

CAN YOU SPEAK ON THAT WITH THE SEPTIC? SO I, I GUESS, I GUESS IT'D BE A SMART THING FOR THE, EITHER THE PARKS AND WILDLIFE OR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OR SOMEBODY TO SAY, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD IN THE AREA, YOU BETTER NOTIFY US AND WE'RE GOING TO NOTIFY THE COUNTY THAT YOU DID COME TO US AND YOU DID CHECK IT.

BUT THAT'D BE ON THEM.

IT WOULDN'T BE ON US.

RIGHT.

BECAUSE WE HAVE NO AUTHORITY.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO FAIL YOUR APPLICATION OR ANYTHING.

YOU WE'RE JUST TELLING YOU ABOUT IT.

NOW THERE'S SOME, THERE'S THE, THIS IS WHERE I BELIEVE THAT SOME OF THE CONCERNS COME IN BECAUSE WE REQUIRE A NET OF ONE ACRE USABLE SPACE.

SO IF THE MAPPER HAS YOU AS A WETLAND ON YOUR 1.1 ACRE TRACT, NOW ARE YOU GONNA BE SPRAYING SEPTIC INTO THE WETLAND? I MEAN THERE'S, THIS IS WHERE THAT KIND OF CONTROVERSY COMES UP.

BUT IF YOU'RE CHECKING THAT THERE, IF THERE'S A WETLAND ON THERE AND ON THE MAPPER IT SAYS IT'S A WETLAND, THEN WE WERE TAKING THAT OUTTA THE NET OR TAKING IT OUT OF THE USABLE.

BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SPRAY IN THAT.

YES.

SO ONE OF THE PREVIOUS AMENDMENTS THAT WAS MADE KIND OF BETTER DEFINED WHAT COUNTED AS REQUIRING A DRAINAGE EASEMENT.

SO A STOCK POND FOR EXAMPLE, IF IT'S WITHIN JUST ONE PROPERTY AND IT'S NOT A PART OF A BIGGER DRAINAGE WAY, THERE'S NOTHING DRAINING TO OR FROM IT.

JUST AN ISOLATED POND ON ONE PROPERTY DOES NOT REQUIRE A DRAINAGE EASEMENT, BUT IT CANNOT COUNT AS USABLE SPACE.

IT DRAINS OFF INTO A CREEK OR YES SIR.

IT'S NOT IMPACTING ANY OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS.

IT'S JUST A STOCK POND RIGHT THERE.

THAT'S A LOW POINT NOT CONNECTED TO A DRAINAGE SYSTEM.

RIGHT.

BUT IT DOES

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WE DON'T WANT SOMEONE TO SPRAY SEPTIC INTO THERE.

SO THAT DOES COME OUT OF USABLE SPACE.

WHERE I THINK THERE'S BEEN SOME CONFUSION OVER WETLANDS COUNTING AS USABLE SPACE IS IF A DRAINAGE WAY IS CONSIDERED WETLANDS, IT MUST FIRST BE A DRAINAGE WAY.

NOT ALL DRAINAGE WAYS ARE WETLANDS, BUT ALL WETLANDS WILL BE SOME FORM OF A DRAINAGE WAY, WHICH MEANS THAT IT DOES REQUIRE A DRAINAGE EASEMENT.

SO WE DO NOT REQUIRE ANY DRAINAGE EASEMENTS FOR A WETLAND PER SE, .

BUT SINCE A WETLAND IS GOING TO BE A DRAINAGE WAY, IT WILL ALREADY HAVE AN EASEMENT ON THERE.

SO THAT'S A WAY TO KIND OF HELP SAFEGUARD THAT WITH TERMS OF USABLE SPACE.

ALRIGHT, I GET YOU.

AND THEN THE OTHER THING THAT I, I LIKED AND I, AND I, I ASSUMED DID THIS REALLY TAKE CARE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TROUBLE WITH, THEY BUILD AND THEN YOU HAVE IMPACT, WE WAS TALKING ABOUT IMPACT STUDIES DOWNSTREAM FROM ALL THE BUILDING.

SO WE DID ADDRESS THAT.

WHAT I, I ASSUME WHAT I KIND OF READ IN HERE, THE IDENTIFICATION OF SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD, IS THAT WHERE THAT'S THIS PART? WELL, AS MUCH AUTHORITY AS WE COULD IN THAT DRAINAGE AREA.

WE CAN ONLY GO SO FAR.

WE'RE STILL WORKING ON EXTENDING THAT WITH THE F I F PORTION WITH UM, FREEZING NICKELS.

BUT WE DID PUT A LOT OF, UM, RULES THAT WE WERE ALLOWED TO DO FOR THE DRAINAGE AND HOW IT AFFECTS DOWN, DOWN ROAD DOWNSTREAM DOWN THE STREAM.

MM-HMM.

, WE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT WAS NEVER CLARIFIED.

IT WAS LIKE, HEY, WATCH YOUR STORM WATER .

WELL, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I MEAN IF WE DON'T CLARIFY THAT, THERE'S NO DEFINITION IT CAN BE WELL, YOU KNOW, A MATTER OF INTERPRETATION OR, YOU KNOW, THE PERCEPTION.

WELL, AND THEN THE BIG DEAL WITH THAT IS, IS WE HAVE ET JS AND PEOPLE DO THEIR OWN PLATING.

MM-HMM.

, WELL, THEY COULD GIVE, THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE COUNTY AND THE PEOPLE OUT IN THE COUNTY, THEY SEE TAX DOLLARS AND THESE AND THE ENGINEERS COMING IN.

WE'VE GOT THESE RETENTION PONDS, BUT WE GET THOSE RAINS AND THEN EVERYBODY DOWNSTREAM FLOODS, YOU KNOW, SO, AND, AND I DON'T KNOW.

AND A LOT OF IT'S COMMUNICATION WITH ET TJS.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST LIKE THEY'RE DOING A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT IN ONE CITY IN MY PRECINCT AND IT WAS A COUNTY ROAD THERE, BUT YET THEY, THEY TOOK 1.65 MILLION FOR IMPACT FEES FOR THE ROAD AND THEN DID SOMETHING ELSE WITH IT IN THE CITY.

MM-HMM.

.

SO, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE THERE'S TWO WORLDS TAKING CARE OF KAUFMAN COUNTY AND THEY'RE NOT TALKING TO EACH OTHER.

WELL, THOSE WORLDS ARE COLLIDING AND THEY'RE LEARNING THAT MAYBE THEY SHOULD REACH OUT.

'CAUSE WE HAVE, UM, ONE THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH NOW THAT THE PLATT WAS RECORDED, DOESN'T HAVE AN ACRE FOR SEPTIC, IT'S NOT GETTING UTILITIES.

AND THE PLATT SAID SEVEN LOTS.

THEY CREATED EIGHT LOTS.

SO WE ARE, THEY'RE LEARNING THAT MAYBE THEY SHOULD SPEAK TO THE COUNTY AND COLLABORATE.

SO WE ARE DOING THAT NOW AND THEY DON'T WANT TO GO BACK AND TELL THAT DEVELOPER, OOPS, YOU CAN'T DO THIS AFTER.

WE'VE ALREADY WENT THROUGH ALL OF THAT.

SO THERE'S A LOT MORE COLLABORATION.

YOUR SMALLER CITIES WHO MEET ONCE A WEEK OR ONCE A MONTH, THOSE ARE A LITTLE HARDER TO GET AHOLD OF.

UM, SO I WOULD, YOU KNOW, JUST IF YOU GUYS HAVE A GOOD CONTACT OR WHATEVER, PLEASE.

BECAUSE I LEAVE A MESSAGE AND I MIGHT NOT HEAR FROM 'EM FOR TWO MONTHS.

SO WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL TALKING AND WE WILL MAKE THE TIME TO GO TO THEM IF WE NEED TO AND DISCUSS THEIR PROJECT JUST LIKE WE WOULD WITH A PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING.

I'D LIKE TO MEET WITH THE CITIES ON THEIR PROJECTS FOR THEIR PRE-DEVELOPMENT SO THAT THEY CAN COVER THE COUNTY SIDE AND THE CITY.

IT'S A GOAL, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE COOPERATION.

RIGHT.

BUT IT'S A GOAL AND IT'S WORKING, BUT WE ARE MOVING FORWARD ON TAKING CARE OF THE FLOODING DOWNSTREAM.

YEP.

A LITTLE BIT AT A TIME.

A LITTLE BIT AT A TIME.

BUT IT'S COMING.

BUT THAT'S THE ONLY TWO THINGS THAT I SAW IN THERE THAT, YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT.

WELL THERE IS THAT TRAFFIC IMPACT THAT I THOUGHT YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE.

DID YOU SEE THAT SECTION? MM-HMM.

.

YEAH.

YEAH, .

YEAH, I DID.

AND IT SPELLED OUT IN THERE, BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T SPELL IT OUT, YOU CAN'T ENFORCE IT.

RIGHT.

SO IT'S SPELLED OUT IN THERE.

NO ONE CHANGE THAT WE DID MAKE THERE AS WELL AS, INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING LOTS, SO 20 LOTS, WE ALSO INCLUDED LODGING DEVELOPMENT UNITS, WHICH IS DEFINED IN THE MANUFACTURED HOME AND RV SECTION.

SO THAT MEANS IF SOMEONE'S GONNA COME IN AND MAKE AN RV PARK OF A HUNDRED OR A WHOLE BUNCH OF, NOT LOTS 'CAUSE IT'S CONSIDERED ONE BIG PROPERTY LOT, BUT ANY KIND OF LIVING UNIT, THEN THAT COUNTS AS WELL.

SO THAT WASN'T VERY CLEAR BEFORE WHERE I THINK THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION ON THE DEVELOPER'S SIDE SAYING, WELL, I'M NOT DOING 20 LOTS, I'M ONE LOT, BUT YOU'RE PUTTING HUNDREDS OF MM-HMM.

MOBILE HOMES ON THERE.

THOSE ARE STILL PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA BE USING THAT ROAD.

SO IT'S CONTINUALLY GROWING.

WE'RE CONTINUALLY LOOKING WAYS TO PROTECT OUR CITIZENS, TO PROTECT THESE, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENTS COME IN AND THEY, THEY WANT TO GET IN AND THEY WANT TO GET OUT OUR, WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA BE STAYING HERE AND LIVING HERE.

SO WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO AMEND IT, GROW IT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ABOUT.

SO WAS

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HOW MANY, WAS IT A THOUSAND OR MORE? 1,044.

AND THERE'S, THEY'RE SMALL LOTS.

HOW ARE THEY DOING SEPTIC ON THAT? HOW DOES THAT WORK? THEY GOTTA PUT, THEY'RE BRINGING IN THEIR OWN, DOING A PACKAGE PLAN.

YEAH.

THEY'RE NOT DOING ONSITE SEWAGE.

OH, OKAY.

GOOD.

AND THEY HAVE THAT OPTION.

YEAH.

YEP.

I, THAT'S THE SAME THING.

YEAH.

THAT'S WHAT I COULDN'T , YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO KNOW BECAUSE I THINK, AND I THINK WE DISCUSSED IT ON THE LOOP MM-HMM.

ON THE, UM, WHATEVER IT'S CALLED, THE TOW WAY GOING AROUND AUSTIN.

THEY HAVE A LOT OF THOSE.

YEAH.

AND IT MIGHT BE THE SAME PEOPLE.

I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, THEY'RE GOING AROUND SETTING THEM UP EVERYWHERE, I'M SURE.

AND MAN, I, THERE'S, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF 'EM DOWN THROUGH THERE.

THEY'RE JUST HEELS OF THEM.

UH, MOBILE HOME, I MEAN, UH, YOU KNOW MM-HMM.

, UM, WE SEE AN INCREASE IN DECREASED BASED OFF OF THE HOME SALES NEXT TO EACH OTHER.

AND THE COST.

YEAH.

INTEREST RATE GOES UP.

YOU GET MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR MANUFACTURED HOME THAN YOU DO AS SITE BILL.

WELL, AND IT, IT FLUCTUATES.

WE HAVE SOMEWHERE WE DON'T SEE A MANUFACTURED HOME PARK FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'VE GOT FOUR OF 'EM.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

WELL, AND EVERYBODY CAN'T AFFORD 'EM.

NO.

SO, AND, AND EVERYBODY HAS TO HAVE A PLACE TO LIVE.

MM-HMM.

.

AND EVERYBODY HAS TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE DEVELOPER THAT'S PUTTING IT IN JUST HAS TO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'VE GOT, FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE SAME KIND OF OPTIONS THAT THEY DO FOR REGULAR HOUSES.

'CAUSE THEY ARE A REGULAR HOUSE.

CORRECT.

YEAH.

AND BEFORE THERE WASN'T A LOT OF AUTHORITY THERE, BUT MM-HMM.

, THE AUTHORITY HAS INCREASED DUE TO THE RECOGNITION THAT THESE, THESE ARE DEVELOPMENTS.

THEY MIGHT NOT BE SITE BUILT, BUT THEIR DEVELOPMENTS AND, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOTTA, YOU'VE GOTTA DO THE INFRASTRUCTURE, YOU'VE GOTTA PUT IT IN.

AND SO THAT WAS ONE OF OUR AMENDMENTS.

UM, PROBABLY THE LAST TERM, MAYBE LAST OCTOBER, SECTION 10.

WE, WE SECTION 10.

WE'VE LOADED THAT UP WITH ALL THE AUTHORITY WE COULD.

HOW ABOUT THESE, UM, I HAVEN'T READ THROUGH THE ENTIRE THING HERE, MAYBE ADDRESSED IN THERE, BUT, UM, DO WE HAVE ANY AUTHORITY WHATSOEVER OVER THESE, UH, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL 'EM? UH, NOT BARE BAD BREAKFAST, BUT THE AIRBNB TYPE DEALS THAT ARE POPPING UP.

'CAUSE I'VE ALREADY HAD AN ISSUE.

SOMEBODY BROUGHT IT TO MY ATTENTION LAST WEEK, THE NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT WENT IN DOWN THE ROAD FROM WHERE I LIVE ON 3 46.

UH, THEY'RE ACTUALLY ADVERTISING THOSE THINGS AS, UH, EROTIC WEEKENDS, SPOTS.

WOW.

.

SO, UH, I MEAN, WHO KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON DOWN THERE, BUT, BUT THERE'S PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY ACTUALLY LIVE THERE.

THEIR HOMES ARE NEXT DOOR TO THESE PLACES.

AND, UH, WE DO HAVE A SECTION ON SEXUALLY ORIENTATED BUSINESSES.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WE COULD, I'D HAVE TO DO SOME RESEARCH ON THAT.

YEAH.

I GUESS IF THEY, IF THEY ADVERTISE WRONG SECTION IN THEIR, THEY'RE ADVERTISING THAT.

AND THEN I WOULD THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S A RUNNING IT AS A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS, THEN WE COULD BRING FIRE MARSHAL.

SO WE DO HAVE SOME, AS FAR AS LIKE, UH, THE CITIES ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE PEOPLE LE UH, REGISTER THEIR RENT HOMES, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

, WE DON'T HAVE THAT JURISDICTION.

AT LEAST I'M TRYING TO FIND THAT.

SO THEN I CAN AT LEAST HAVE RENT HOMES, UM, REGISTERED SO THAT WHEN IT COMES TO THE SEPTIC SIDE, IT'S LIKE I DON'T OWN IT.

THEY OWN IT.

YEAH.

THAT I CAN'T GET THE OWNER OWNERS IN COLORADO.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SEPTIC ISSUES.

IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DETERMINE THOSE.

UM, BUT WE CAN'T DO THAT.

CITIES CAN, BUT WE CAN'T YET.

HMM.

OR AT LEAST HAVEN'T FOUND OUR AUTHORITY YET LOOKING, I, I DON'T KNOW A HOUSE.

COULD IT BE A COMMERCIAL? YEAH, I WOULD THINK.

I MEAN, I, I DON'T KNOW IF IT COULD BE A COMMERCIAL AND CAUSE A, A FIRE MARSHAL AND THEY HAVE TO GO INSPECT IT OR NOT.

I DON'T KNOW.

UM, I MEAN 'CAUSE IT'S NOT ENOUGH SQUARE FOOTAGE TO AND ENOUGH OCCUPANTS TO REQUIRE SPRINKLERS OR, YEAH.

I DON'T KNOW.

AND THAT'S ABOUT THE ONLY THING THAT WE DO.

OCCUPANTS AND LOWER OCCUPANCY KNOW IF YOU HAVE DISABLED OR, OR MENTALLY ILL, YOU KNOW, HOUSES OR WHATEVER.

SO I GUESS YOU COULD HAVE SOMETHING IN THERE ON OCCUPANCY, RIGHT.

ON RENT MAYBE.

MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING YOU GET WITH THE DA AND SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT IT AND THAT'S WHY I'M BRINGING IT UP.

YEAH.

ACY, I MEAN, NO, THAT WOULD BE ABOUT THE ONLY KIND OF THING.

WELL, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT WILL WANT TO TAX IT DIFFERENTLY AND EVERYBODY NEEDS TO KNOW MM-HMM.

, EVERYBODY NEEDS ENOUGH.

IT FALLS INTO A DIFFERENT BRACKET WHEN YOU'RE USING IT AS A BUSINESS AND NOT YOUR RESIDENCE.

SO, YOU KNOW, AND ON THEIR, I KNOW, UM, ON THEIR, ON THE STOP SIGNS AND RED LIGHTS AND STUFF, THAT'S ONLY IF THEY'RE PLANTING INSIDE THEIR DISTRICT.

SO I MEAN, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR STREETS.

RIGHT.

SAY THAT AGAIN.

THE RED LIGHTS STOP SIGNS YOU PUT IT IN.

AND THAT'S ONLY ON PLATTS, RIGHT? THAT'S ON THE INSIDE OF THEIR, INSIDE OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT.

AND IS THERE A, IS THERE ANY KIND OF LAW SAYING THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE CERTAIN STOP SIGNS FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC FLOW? THAT WOULD BE IN THE TRANSPORTATION.

BECAUSE I KNOWN TERRELL FOR YEARS AND

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IT USED TO DRIVE ME CRAZY.

I'D GO THROUGH THERE AND THEY SAY, DRIVE ME CRAZY.

YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE NEITHER SIDE HAD STOP SIGNS AND YOU ALWAYS WONDERED ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW, THE TRAFFIC IMPACT.

YEAH.

THAT COULD BE COORDINATED THROUGH THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DEFINITELY MENTION.

I WOULD HAVE TO RESEARCH A LITTLE BIT ON WHERE THE AUTHORITY STOPS FOR WHAT THE COUNTY'S ALLOWED TO REQUIRE.

THE CLOSEST THING THAT I KNOW OF THAT'S CURRENTLY IN THE REGULATIONS IS THERE IS A RULE THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE LONGER THAN 800 LINEAR FEET OF ROADWAY WITHOUT SOME KIND OF TURN IN THE ROAD OR A STOP SIGN.

AND THAT'S TO KEEP FROM HAVING A VERY LONG STRAIGHTAWAY.

THAT'S ENCOURAGING SOMEONE TO JUST SPEED DOWN THERE, DOWN THROUGH IT RIGHT.

IN FRONT OF EVERYONE'S HOME.

SO WE HAVE HAD PEOPLE MAKE THAT OPTION INSTEAD OF ADDING A DEFLECTION IN THE ROAD, WHICH WOULD SLOW DOWN, THEY JUST ADD A STOP SIGN.

WHICH HAS BEEN I THINK, THE PREFERRED METHOD.

'CAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE TO LAY THEIR ROADS OUT NICE AND PERPENDICULAR WITHOUT THOSE PIS IN THERE.

WELL, I GUESS IN THEIR PRIVATE DEALS, THEY COULD, THEY COULD ALSO PUT UH, YOU KNOW, MEDIUMS IN THE MIDDLE MM-HMM.

AND MAKE 'EM DRIVE AROUND.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW, I KNOW SOME OF THE DEVELOPERS HAVE DONE THAT IN THE PAST, EVEN THOUGH IT'S JUST A STRAIGHT STREET.

THEY JUST PUT A, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE RIGHT.

AND WITH BUSHES IN THE MIDDLE, IT'S LITTLE, IT'S A LITTLE STOPPING.

HEY, THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU YOU'RE DOING.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT MAKE YOU SLOW DOWN.

GO AROUND IT AND, AND JUST, AND HEARTLAND, THEY DID THAT ALL OVER THE AND TRAFFIC CIRCLES.

YEAH.

THERE'S MEDIANS AND CIRCLES.

YEAH.

LIKE YOU CAN'T GO FASTER THAN 15.

MILES'S AMERICAS ARE COMING.

IT'S A STRAIGHT STREET.

YOU KNOW, OR IT'S SOMETHING ELSE.

IT'S NOT NECESSARILY AN INTERSECTION, IT'S JUST THEY JUST SLOW IT DOWN.

YEP.

MM-HMM.

'CAUSE I GUESS THEY DIDN'T WANNA MAKE CURVES AND THEY DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE TO MAINTAIN STOP SIGNS.

SO THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING TO GET A, YOU KNOW.

YEAH, I'VE SEEN SOME OF THOSE CURVES BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW THAT TO LEAN FEET.

I DIDN'T KNOW THAT YOU HAD TO HAVE A CURVE AND A, A STOP SIGN OF THAT.

YEAH.

KEEP YOU FROM HAVING A DRAG STRIP SPEECH.

YES.

YEP.

FAST AND THE FURIOUS .

WELL, HMM.

ALRIGHT.

GOOD JOB.

ALRIGHT, SO THERE IS ONE, UM, ALTERATION THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE.

UH, WE REALIZED THAT ON SECTION 7.07 A ONE, THE WORD ALL WAS ADDED AT THE BEGINNING AND WE NEED TO REMOVE THAT.

SO IF YOU ARE GOING TO APPROVE THESE AMENDMENTS, WE WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU APPROVE THEM SUBJECT TO THAT CHANGE THE REMOVAL OF THE WORD ALL.

OKAY.

WHICH IS WHY YOU GOT A WHOLE NEW PACKET TODAY IN PAPER.

THAT YELLOW POST FOR THAT ONE.

ALL THAT ONE YELLOW POST-IT MOST IT DOES THAT CHANGE? I WAS LOOKING AT THE OLD ONE THEN.

I DIDN'T SEE THAT WORKED THERE ON THE COUNTER.

THAT'S THE ONLY CHANGE I HAD.

ALRIGHT, ANY MORE QUESTIONS MR. MOORE? NO QUESTION.

EVERYBODY HAD, I'M JUST LEARNING ALL.

GOOD JOB.

ALL RIGHT, SO I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS.

I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE IT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF REMOVING THE ALL FROM THE ONE PARAGRAPH.

ALRIGHT.

COMMISSIONER MOORE MAKES THE MOTION.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

COMMISSIONER MARK SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

MOTION PASSED.

THANK YOU TAYLOR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALRIGHT, I GET TO TALK

[7. Monique Hunter; Discuss/Consider approving the amendment to final plat of Creek Ranch Estates revised lots 25AR1, 25AR2, 25AR3, 25AR4, and 25BR, Located on Judy Road in Precinct 1.]

NOW WE GET TO TALK AGAIN.

ONLY HUNTER TO CONSIDER APPROVING THE AMENDED FINAL PLATT, UH, CREEK RANCH ESTATES REVISED LOTS 25 A 1 25 AR 2 25 AR 3 25, AR FOUR, AND 25.

HMM.

LOCATED IN ON JUDY ROAD IN PRECINCT ONE.

THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF AR DOWN THERE.

.

SO, UH, THIS IS AN AMENDED PLATT.

YOU DON'T SEE THIS VERY OFTEN COMING THROUGH COURT.

UM, BUT UM, OUR REGULATIONS REQUIRE THAT, UM, IF THEY'RE GOING TO CHA MAKE A CHANGE ON A PLATT, BUT IT'S SORT OF A MINOR CHANGE.

IT'S NOT ANYTHING MAJOR THEN, UM, THE PLATT WOULD BE SUB REVIEWED AND SUBMITTED THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT SUPPORT COMMITTEE.

THEY WOULD REVIEW IT AND ONCE THEY'D MADE THEIR DECISION, THEN THEY WOULD BRING IT TO COURT.

SO, UM, THE DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE MET, UM, THE CHANGE TO THIS PLATT IS THE RESTRICTIONS ON THE PROPERTY HAD THE SETBACK BUILDING SETBACK LINE AT A HUNDRED FEET.

THEY DIDN'T REALIZE WHEN THEY DID THE PLATT THAT THE RESTRICTIONS EXPIRED IN 2005.

SO IT PUTS IT BACK TO WHAT THE COUNTY REQUIRES OFF OF A COUNTY ROAD, WHICH IS 25 FOOT.

SO THEY'RE JUST CORRECTING THE SETBACK LINE STRAIGHT ACROSS.

SO THAT'S WHY AN AMENDED PLATT IS HERE TODAY.

SO OUR MINIMUM SETBACKS 25 FEET MM-HMM.

ON A COUNTY ROAD.

HMM.

AND IT WAS 75

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WHY DIDN'T WE CHANGE IT TO 25 FEET? I DON'T KNOW.

THAT HAPPENED BEFORE ME.

I DON'T KNOW.

WE CAN AMEND THAT.

UM, IF YOU NEED IT AMENDED, WE CAN AMEND IT.

YEAH.

FROM THE, FROM THE ACTUAL ROAD, BUT NOT FROM THE CENTER.

NO.

OKAY.

BECAUSE I WAS GONNA SAY IF IT'S FROM THE CENTER, IT'S NOT A, THAT'S NOT A VERY GOOD SETBACK.

NO .

SO THAT'S FROM THE EDGE.

MM-HMM.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

SO ANYBODY HAVE A MOTION OR ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS.

THEN I'D TAKE A MOTION FROM SOMEBODY IN PRECINCT ONE.

MAYBE I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

ALRIGHT.

COMMISSIONER HUNT MAKES A MOTION.

ACCEPT AMENDMENT COMMISSIONER MIKE.

COMMISSIONER BLACK.

YEAH.

COMMISSIONER MH.

I'LL SECOND YOU A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

COMMISSIONER BARBARA SECONDS.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[8. Commissioner Moore; Discuss/Consider amending the linear footage of County Road 269 from 3,548 to 7,855.]

ALRIGHT.

OKAY, ON THIS IS WE ARE, WE PUT THIS THROUGH THE COURT HERE RECENTLY AT THE, UH, ONE, THE SHORTER FOOTAGE, BUT, UH, THAT'S ON ONE STRETCHED ROAD, WHICH IS, UH, ON 2 69, WHICH IS BEHIND THE BANK DURING CRANDALL.

BUT THE SECTION AFTER THE 90 DEGREE TURN IS 7,855 FEET TO 7 41.

SO THE CITY'S GONNA TAKE IN THAT WHOLE EXTENSION OF ALL, PRETTY MUCH THE WHOLE 2 69 ROAD INTO THE CITY.

SO WE NEED TO AMEND THIS FOR THEM TO APPROVE IN THEIR COURT OR, AND, AND THEIR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS SO THAT, UH, IT WILL BECOME THEIR ROAD AND WE'LL RUN IT BACK THROUGH ONCE THAT APPROVAL AND CROWN WILL TAKES PLACE AND WE'LL RUN IT BACK THROUGH THAT.

THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE THE FULL LENGTH OF THAT ROAD.

SO, ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

SO, AND THERE'S A MAP ATTACHED TO THAT IF YOU MAY NEED TO SEE IT.

UH, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT AMENDMENT.

ALRIGHT, SO COMMISSIONER MOORE MAKES AN AMENDMENT.

UH, I'LL SECOND IT SINCE IT'S A BOUNDARY AND YOU'LL, I DID YOU HUNT ANY COMMISSIONER? HUNT WILL SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALRIGHT,

[9. Commissioner Barber; Discuss/Consider approving the 2023-2024 Road Report for Kaufman County R&B 3. Kaufman County Commissioners' Court Page 1]

KAUFFMAN COUNTY ROAD BRIDGE.

THREE.

YEAH, I MADE THE SUBMITTAL OF THE ROAD REPORT THERE FOR OUR PRECINCT AND, UH, EVERYTHING'S UPDATED AND CORRECT ON THERE AND I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT.

ALRIGHT, SO COMMISSIONER BARBARA, MAKE A MOTION.

DO I HAVE IT HERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

COMMISSIONER MOORE SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THANK YOU.

[10. Jack Sebastian; Discuss/Consider purchasing furniture for Sheriff's Department Sub-Station from Piano Office Supply utilizing Tarrant County Contract # 2022-84.]

17.

WE'LL DISCUSS AND PURCHASING FURNITURE FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AT THE SUBSTATION FROM PLANO OFFICE SUPPLY.

GOOD MORNING.

UH, UTILIZING THE TARRANT COUNTY CONTRACT.

JIM, THIS IS JUST, I'M TRYING TO CLEAN THIS UP.

UH, UH, THERE WAS NOT A BUDGET SET BACK IN THE DAY FOR FURNITURE FOR THAT BUILDING, SO WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIND OUT WHERE WE COULD GET THE MONEY FOR THAT.

AND THE SHERIFF, UH, FOUND SOMETHING TO GET, GET US GOING ON THIS.

I HAD TO ISSUE THE BILL LAST WEEK SO I COULD GET THE FURNITURE HERE ON TIME.

SO I'M HERE JUST TO CLEAN THIS UP, RIGHT, UH, UTILIZING THE, UH, TARRANT COUNTY CONTRACT.

YOU MAY BE AWARE THAT, UH, THERE WAS SOME CONCERNS, HAS BEEN SOME CONCERNS ABOUT SOME OF THE QUALITY IN, IN THE, IN THE OTHER BUILDING ON FURNITURE.

I BROUGHT THESE FOLKS IN, UH, USED IT FOR YEARS.

UH, THEY'RE A BIG PLAYER.

THEY SELL MORE HA PRODUCT THAN ANYBODY IN THE STATE AND IT'S ROUGHLY ABOUT 30%, UH, CHEAPER THAN WHAT WE PAID, UH, FOR THE JUSTICE CENTER.

AND THAT'S EVEN BETTER.

AND I BELIEVE IT'D BE A BETTER QUALITY.

BETTER QUALITY AND YES.

LESS, LESS MONEY.

IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU SAID HOT PRODUCT.

I'M GOING HAN.

OKAY.

HEY, H O NO.

WONDER'S CHEAPER.

SURE.

WHAT? YEAH, SHERIFF'S GOT CONTACTS.

HE DOES, HE DOES.

ALL RIGHT.

TRY TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION.

ALRIGHT, Y'ALL HEARD THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE ING AGENT? DO I HEAR A MOTION? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION COMM.

COMMISSIONER MOORE MAKES A MOTION.

I'LL SECOND AND COMMISSIONER BARBARA SECONDS.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

A AYE.

THANK YOU.

[11. Judge Allen; Discuss/Consider approval of the certified appraisal rolls for Kaufman County and Kaufman County Road & Bridge.]

UH, 11.

I WOULD THINK THAT,

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ALL RIGHT, LET'S SEE.

ALRIGHT, UH, COMAN COUNTY TAX OFFICE, MR. TERESA FLOYD AND COMAN COUNTY SECTION CERTIFIED EXCESS COLLECTION IN KAUFMAN COUNTY FOR CURRENT TAX YEAR.

THAT MEANS, UH, I'M LOOKING AT, IT WILL BE, UH, 1,413,300 AND 131.54 IN THIS CURRENT TAX YEAR THAT EXCEEDS, THAT'S, THAT'S THE 23 EXCESS COLLECTIONS IN MY DO.

WHERE DID SHE LEAVE? I GUESS SO I GUESS WE'RE DOING THAT RIGHT.

AND THIS IS THE CERTIFIED TAX ROLLS.

AND SO WE HAVE A COPY OF THE CERTIFIED TAX ROLLS.

SO THAT'S ALL WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE ACCEPTING THIS CERTIFIED TAX ROLL OF THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE RECEIVING TAXES.

AND SO I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT.

I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE.

I HAVE A, I'LL SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER BARBER AND COMMISSIONER HUNT.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALRIGHT.

[12. Judge Allen; Discuss/Consider the proposed tax rate and take a record vote,]

AND THE CERTIFIED PROPERTY ASSESSED VALUES.

I NEED TO READ THIS PART.

THE GENERAL M AND O IS GONNA BE 21 B $231,131,358.

THE ROAD AND BRIDGE WILL BE 17,156,993,338.

OUR DEBT I N S WILL BE 21,245,960,131.

NOW THAT'S JUST THE VALUES.

THAT'S NOT ACTUAL MONEY.

THAT'S THIS VALUES, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE CHARGE OR WHATEVER THAT, AND THE, UH, SO THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE ACTUAL PROPOSED, YOU KNOW, TAX ROWS IN THE THING.

THE ACTUAL TAX RATE WILL BE GENERAL M AND O WILL BE 0.279590 ROAD AND BRIDGE WILL BE 0.0 8 2 5 0 0.

AND OUR I N S DEBT WILL BE 0.0 4 9 3 6 8.

THE TOTAL OF THE RATE WILL BE 0.4 1 1 4 5 8.

AND THAT IS A REDUCTION FROM LAST YEAR.

UH, SO THAT'S THE RATE.

AND OF COURSE WE HAVE COPIES OF THAT FOR EVERYBODY.

ANYBODY NEEDS THEM, WHATEVER THEY NEED.

RECORDS RECORD VOTE.

HUH? YOU NEED TO TAKE A RECORD VOTE AND WE NEED TO TAKE A RECORD VOTE.

AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST GONNA ASK IF THERE WAS ANY DISCUSSION FIRST.

OKAY.

BUT ANY DISCUSSION, ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT THE, LEMME TELL YOU.

THE JUDGE, THE AUDITOR AND THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS IN THIS COUNTY HAS WORKED VERY HARD ON THIS BUDGET HAS GAVE, UH, THIS ISN'T THE BUDGET, BUT THIS IS THE TAX RATE THAT'S GOING TO SUPPORT THE BUDGET AT THE END OF THE MONTH WHEN WE PASS THE BUDGET.

THIS IS JUST THE TAX RATE THAT WE'RE GONNA BE CHARGING FOR NEXT YEAR.

SO WE WANNA MAKE IT PERFECTLY CLEAR.

IT, IT DOESN'T MEAN THE BUDGET'S OVER, IT'S JUST GETTING REALLY, REALLY CLOSE TO BEING COMPLETE.

AND I THINK WE HAVE A, A REALLY GOOD BUDGET AT THE MOMENT.

I'M SURE THERE'LL BE SOME LITTLE TWEAKS HERE AND THERE BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.

BUT, UM, I TELL YOU, I I, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE AUDITOR AND THE AUDITOR STAFF AND OUR BUDGET OFFICER,

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SO THAT'S MY COMMENTS ON THE TAX RATE.

WELL I THINK WE WOULD'VE LIKED TO HAVE DONE SOME MORE, MORE OF A REDUCTION ON THE TAX RATE EXCEPT WE'RE GROWING AS A COUNTY.

SO THE NEEDS ARE INCREASING.

PLUS WHEN YOU GET TO THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM, RIGHT, WE'RE ADDING A NEW DISTRICT JUDGE, YES.

EVERYTHING THAT GOES WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, ALL THE AUXILIARY PERSONNEL AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO THERE WERE SOME EXPENSES THROUGH THE, ON THE LEGAL SIDE THAT HAVE COME UP THAT THE POPULATION THAT GROWING IS MADE US HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT.

SO, AND WOULD LIKE TO HAVE DONE MORE, BUT YOU KNOW, JUST, WE HAVE TO DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO TO MEET THE STANDARDS AND THE LAW.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

I AGREE, AGREE WITH MIKE.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT FOLKS UNDERSTAND, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE SAID, WE ARE GROWING ABOUT LEAPS AND BOUNDS, WHICH DOES REQUIRE MORE SERVICES AND THAT'S THE BIG THING.

BUT EVEN WITH ALL OF THAT, WE'RE STILL ABLE TO REDUCE THE TAX RATE FROM WHAT IT WAS LAST YEAR.

SO I THINK THAT'S A PRETTY BIG ACCOMPLISHMENT.

AND AGAIN, UH, KAREN AND HER STAFF, UH, WORKING WITH THE JUDGE AND EVERY, ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS WORKED TOGETHER, MADE THAT HAPPEN.

AND THAT'S A GOOD THING THAT WE CAN ALL WORK TOGETHER LIKE THAT AND THE RESULTS ARE, ARE GOOD, YOU KNOW, FROM IT.

SO I THINK WE'VE GOT A GOOD BUDGET COMING UP AND UH, EVERYBODY'S GONNA BE HAPPY WITH IT, INCLUDING THE TAXPAYERS, I HOPE.

'CAUSE IT LOOKS GOOD.

SO, AND ME, I'M ROOKIE AND I KNOW POOR KAREN HERE HAS HAD TO ANSWER HUNDREDS OF QUESTIONS FOR ME.

SO AS I'M FIGURING OUT THE MECHANICS AND THE DYNAMICS OF THE BUDGET PROCESS.

SO IT'S BEEN A VERY INTERESTING, UH, LEARNING EXPERIENCE TO LEARN ALL THIS.

SO I THINK EVERYBODY'S DONE A VERY GOOD JOB.

AGAIN, LIKE YOU SAID, KAREN AND THEM'S DONE A GREAT JOB ON, YOU KNOW, LETTING ME KNOW HOW IT WORKS AND THE PROCESS.