Aug 15, 2023 Commissioners Court

PRAY WITH ME PLEASE.

HEAVENLY FATHER, I WANNA THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY.

I DO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE LITTLE BIT COOLER WEATHER WE'RE ENJOYING FOR THE NEXT FEW DAYS.

I WANNA ASK YOU TO PLEASE BE WITH US THIS MORNING AS WE CONDUCT BUSINESS FOR THE COUNTY, UH, BELIEVE WITH OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.

AND, UH, PLEASE HELP PEOPLE REMEMBER, UH, NO BURNING, UH, 'CAUSE IT'S REALLY DANGEROUS OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.

BE WITH US ALL AND KEEP US SAFE.

IN YOUR SON'S NAME WE PRAY, AMEN.

AMEN.

ALLEGIANCE TO, TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC.

FOR WHICH STATEMENTS? ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, FOR LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FROM HONORING THE TEXAS FLAG, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.

AND WE DO HAVE SOMEONE SIGNED UP THIS MORNING.

IS THAT THE ONLY ONE WE HAVE? MS. LAURA? ONLY THE ONE? YES.

AND WE'LL DO YOU, WHEN WE GET TO NUMBER SIX, BECAUSE YOU'RE ON THE AGENDA, THAT'LL BE OKAY.

GOOD DEAL.

[1. ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.]

ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE, WE HAVE OUR LEFT JUST TREASURE HERE THIS MORNING.

WHO WOULD LIKE TO SHARE A LITTLE INFORMATION WITH US? WELL, WELL, I WAS AT THE, UH, LAST INVESTMENT CONFERENCE.

UH, WE WERE TOLD THAT, UH, IF WE HAD ANY ARPA MONEY LEFT IN THE BANK, WE NEEDED TO GET IT INVESTED BECAUSE THE, UH, RULES WERE NOW THAT ANY EARNINGS ON THAT ARPA MONEY COULD BE USED FOR ANY PURPOSE.

AND WE'RE WE'RE NOT RESTRICTED AS THE, UH, ARPA FUNDS WERE.

SO, UH, AFTER SPEAKING WITH THE, UH, JUDGE ALLEN ABOUT IT, UH, LAST WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON, I INVESTED 14,500,000 OF THE 15,000,500 THAT WE HAD LEFT IN THE, UH, AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK SINCE THAT TIME.

UM, IT WENT IN LAST WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON.

SO BY THIS MORNING I CHECKED THE BALANCE AND WE ARE NOW AT, UH, FOURTEEN THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED AND THIRTEEN THOUSAND FORTY FIVE DOLLARS AND 41 CENTS.

SO WE'VE, WE'VE EARNED $13,045 AND 41 CENTS IN ABOUT FIVE DAYS.

AMAZING.

THAT'S A GOOD RETURN ALL OUR MONEY.

THANK YOU, JUDGE.

APPRECIATE YOU DOING THAT.

THE CONSENT AGENDA NUMBER TWO, DISCUSS, ASSERT, ACCEPT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETINGS MINUTES FOR AUGUST THE EIGHTH OF 2023 AND AUGUST 9TH, 23, AND B, DISCUSS, CONSIDER ACCEPTING THE STAR TRANSIT RIDERSHIP REPORTS FOR JULY OF 23.

UH,

[2. CONSENT AGENDA]

ANY COMMENTS? NOPE.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT.

PLEASE.

MR. PHILLIPS MAKES MOST ACCEPT NEITHER NUMBER TWO.

I'LL SECOND.

MR. BARBER MAKES A SECOND.

DISCUSS THE CITY OF CRAWFORD'S INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND SPONSORSHIP.

[3. Judge Allen; Discuss the City of Kaufman's inclusive playground sponsorship.]

WE HAVE THE MAYOR, MR. JORDAN, HERE WITH US TODAY.

I'D LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS, JUDGE COMMISSIONERS, THANK Y'ALL FOR HAVING ME THIS MORNING.

UM, I KNOW SOME OF YOU MAY OR MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR WITH OUR PLANS AT THE CITY LAKES PARKS IN KAUFMAN.

UH, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO, WHO MAY NOT BE, UM, I'LL GIVE JUST A BRIEF RUNDOWN THAT WE HAVE PRETTY EXTENSIVE PLANS ON IMPROVING THAT PARK, WHICH IS JUST OFF OF 34 NORTH OF TOWN.

UM, WE HAVE RECEIVED $750,000 IN GRANT MONEY FROM TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE.

UH, AND WE HAVE A PERSONAL FUNDRAISING GOAL OF $1 MILLION.

AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE'RE ABOUT EIGHT, A LITTLE OVER 80% TOWARDS THAT GOAL, UH, HAVING RAISED A LITTLE OVER EIGHT 80,000, $800,000.

LEMME GET MY NUMBERS STRAIGHT IN A MINUTE.

UM, AND TODAY I'M ASKING IF THE COUNTY WOULD CONSIDER PARTICIPATING IN THAT FUNDRAISING GOAL WITH, UH, UH, SOME LOCAL MONEY GOING TOWARDS THAT.

UM, AMONG THE AMENITIES THAT WILL BE IMPROVED OR ADDED AT THE PARK WILL BE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE HIKING AND BIKING TRAIL.

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UM, AND WITHIN THAT SCOPE, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU'RE AWARE, BUT THAT THAT PARK USED TO BE WHERE, UM, CROSS COUNTRY MEETS WERE HELD WIDELY IN THIS AREA.

UM, NOT JUST KAUFMAN KAUFMAN OBVIOUSLY MIGHT HOST THOSE, BUT, UM, TEAMS FROM, FROM ALL ACROSS THE COUNTY AND ALL ACROSS THIS REGION WOULD, WOULD USE THAT.

WE'VE TOLD THE HIGH SCHOOL, UH, COACH THAT WE WANT, THAT WE WANT TO BRING THAT BACK, UM, AND HAVE THAT BE A PREMIER LOCATION FOR, FOR THOSE CROSS COUNTRY MEETS.

UM, MIGHT INTEREST SOME OF YOU, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR PARTICULAR HOBBIES ARE, BUT WE'RE GONNA MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE LAKES THEMSELVES, INCLUDING A FISHING PIER ON ONE OF THE LAKES.

UH, YOU MIGHT EVEN BE ABLE TO ACCIDENTALLY CATCH A LITTLE ALLIGATOR WHILE YOU'RE OUT THERE, DEPENDING ON THE DAY.

UM, AND THERE WILL BE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS NOT LISTED THAT I'M MENTIONING TODAY, BUT MAYBE THE, THE CENTERPIECE OF THAT IS WHAT WE'RE, UM, FOCUSING ON IS THE INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND.

YOU MAY HAVE HEARD US TALK ABOUT THAT.

IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH WHAT AN INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND IS, UH, THINK BEYOND JUST HANDICAP ACCESS FOR A PLAYGROUND.

IT HAS PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT THAT WILL ADDRESS CHILDREN WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, SPECIAL EMOTIONAL NEEDS, SPECIAL COGNITIVE NEEDS.

AND THE IDEA IS REAL SIMPLE THAT ALL, ALL THE KIDS WOULD BE ABLE TO PLAY TOGETHER.

IT'S NOT LIKE A SEPARATE AREA FOR CHILDREN WITH SPECIAL NEEDS.

IT'S THAT ALL OF THE EQUIPMENT IS, UH, ABLE TO BE UTILIZED BY ALL CHILDREN.

UM, THAT, UH, IN ITSELF WOULD BE THE ONLY ONE.

I I THINK YOU HAVE TO GO KIND OF NORTH, NORTH OF THE METROPLEX TO FIND ANOTHER ONE.

SO IT WOULD BE THE ONLY ONE IN THE, IN KAUFFMAN COUNTY, AND CERTAINLY NOT JUST UTILIZED BY, UH, KAUFFMAN RESIDENTS.

WE DO EXPECT IT WOULD BE A, A DRAW FOR PARENTS OF CHILDREN WITH, WITH THOSE SPECIAL NEEDS.

UH, WE HAVE DIFFERENT FUNDRAISING LEVELS.

AND, AND ONE MORE THING I WOULD LIKE TO SAY.

THE WAY WE HAVE FOCUSED ON THIS PARK AND WHAT WE TOLD TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE WHEN DISCUSSING THIS, IS WE'RE REALLY THINKING ABOUT THIS AS A, A SMALL STATE PARK, UH, REGIONAL, OBVIOUSLY STATE WON'T OPERATE IT, BUT WE'RE, THE IMPROVEMENTS WE'RE MAKING, UH, WOULD, WOULD MORE REPRESENT A SMALL STATE PARK THAN A A A CITY COMMUNITY PARK.

UH, AND WE DO ANTICIPATE THAT IT WOULD BE A REGIONAL DRAW.

WE WANT IT TO BE A REGIONAL DRAW, UM, DIFFERENT FUNDRAISING LEVELS AVAILABLE.

ANY AMOUNT WOULD BE APPRECIATED.

AND WE'D, UM, LOVE TO PARTNER WITH THE COUNTY ON THIS EFFORT.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I I MAY KNOW THE ANSWER.

IF I DON'T, I CAN FIND IT OUT REAL QUICK.

YOU ANY, UH, DRAWINGS OR, I DID NOT BRING ANYTHING VISUAL, BUT WHAT WE DO HAVE PLENTY OF THAT AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO GET IT TO YOU.

IT'LL BE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, I'M SURE.

SURE.

I'LL JUST HAVE HIM EMAIL IT TO YOU DIRECTLY.

HOW'S THAT? OKAY.

I'D LIKE TO SHARE IT WITH THEM.

SURE.

I'LL HAVE IT, I'LL HAVE IT DISTRIBUTED TO ALL OF Y'ALL.

WE HAVE, I THINK MAYBE MR. HUNT HAS SEEN SOME OF THOSE, BUT OKAY.

I TAKE FOR GRANTED THAT NOT ALL OF Y'ALL KNOW SOME OF THE INDIVIDUAL THINGS, SO.

REALLY AND TRULY, I MEAN, IT'S A GREAT THING, YOU KNOW, FOR WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO FOR THE KIDS OR WHAT CITY OF KAUFFMAN'S TRYING TO DO FOR THE KIDS.

AND I KNOW MY GRANDKIDS GROW UP THERE AROUND AUSTIN AND THEY HAVE PARKS THAT, UH, KIND OF, IT'S NOT A STATE PARK, BUT IT'S A, A CITY PARK OR WHATEVER, AND IT'S, YOU, YOU PAY A MEMBERSHIP OR A SMALL FEE TO GET IN AND, AND THEY HAVE, IT IS LIKE A MINIATURE STATE PARK, WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HORSEBACK RIDING.

I MEAN, IT'S, AND IT'S REALLY GOOD.

YOU JUST DRIVE DOWN THE STREET 20, 30 MINUTES AND HAVE SOME PLACE FOR YOUR KIDS TO PLAY IN THE PLAYGROUNDS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO I KNOW THE LIONS CLUB IS PITCHED IN HERE AND, AND, AND, UH, UH, UM, AND, AND I KNOW THAT IF THIS COULD BE OPENING UP A, A PANDORA'S BOX TO, FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE'S WORRY, YOU KNOW, BUT THIS IS A, A DIFFERENT TYPE DEAL AND, YOU KNOW, ANYBODY BRINGS ANYTHING TO US IS A DIFFERENT TYPE DEAL.

SO, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO, WE'RE HAVING A, A PUBLIC HEARING WITH THE BUDGET.

WE'RE DISCUSSING THE BUDGET LATER AND LET'S JUST SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.

I WAS, HOW, HOW BIG IS THE PARK? DO YOU, YOU KNOW, I'M, I WAS ABOUT TO COMMENT THAT WE ADDED SIGNIFICANT ACREAGE TO IT.

I DON'T RECALL WHAT THE NEW TOTAL IS, BUT WE ADDED ABOUT 70 ACRES TO THE PARK, UH, PURCHASING PROPERTY THAT WAS, UH, DIRECTLY EAST, UM, FROM, UH, DO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT? BETWEEN WHAT IS NOW THE SCHOOL PROPERTY AND THE PARK? SO WE ADDED THAT.

I GUESS THAT PUTS IT IN THE PROBABLY 1 21 25 RANGE.

I MAY BE A LITTLE OFF ON THAT, BUT IT'S PRETTY SIGNIFICANT ACREAGE NOW, OBVIOUSLY MUCH LARGER THAN YOUR TYPICAL COMMUNITY PARK.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, THANK YOU, JUDGE.

CAN, CAN YOU GET THOSE EMAILED TO, TO JAKEY SO HE CAN GET IT TO OUR PHONES FOR DISCUSSION AT THE END OF THE MEETING? YEAH, I'LL HAVE IT EMAILED TO I I KNOW YOU, I I THINK WE HAVE EVERYBODY'S EMAIL.

WE'LL GET DISTRIBUTED.

ANNE ARCHER, DISCUSS, CONSIDER ASSISTING THE CITY OF KAUFFMAN WITH THE HUNDRED 75TH CELEBRATION FOR KAUFMAN COUNTY.

WE CAN COMPLICATE IT WHEN WE'RE DISCUSSING.

DID YOU BRING YOUR I OKAY.

[4. Rheanne Archer; Discuss/Consider assisting the City of Kaufman with the 175th Celebration for Kaufman County.]

OKAY, NUMBER FOUR,

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OKAY, LADIES, .

GOOD MORNING.

MORNING.

WELL, IT IS THE, UM, HUNDRED AND 75TH ANNIVERSARY OF KAUFFMAN COUNTY AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CELEBRATE THAT.

LUCKILY RAYANN, UM, HAD A, A VISION OF WHAT WE COULD DO.

AND SO I'M GONNA LET HER KIND OF GO THROUGH THE BREAK.

THE BREAKDOWN OF IT.

I WAS THINKING WE COULD DO THAT.

WE'LL DO THIS DURING HARVEST FEST, SINCE IT'S ALREADY ADVERTISED AND OUT THERE.

AND VENDORS ARE COMING IN FROM ALL OVER, WHICH WILL BE ON OCTOBER THE 14TH, WHICH WE ALREADY HAVE A FULL DAY LINEUP ON THAT DAY.

BUT WE WERE LOOKING AT DOING ON COMMISSIONER'S COURT ON TUESDAY, OCTOBER THE 10TH.

I'VE ALREADY REACHED OUT TO CODY CRAIG ABOUT THE PROCLAMATION FOR THE COUNTY AND PRESENTING IT DURING COMMISSIONER'S COURT ON THAT DAY ON THE 10TH.

AND THEN AT FIVE 30 TO SIX 30, SINCE THE COURTHOUSE IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND SHOULD STILL BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION, HAVING OUT AT THE POOR FARM A TOAST TO THE COUNTY WITH A CAKE AND HAVE A SPEAKER THERE.

AND OF COURSE DO THE PLEDGES.

WE WERE LOOKING AT DOING AN HONOR GUARD TO COME OUT AND DO THE PLEDGES AND STUFF OUT THERE.

AND THEN ALSO DO AND INCORPORATE A TIME CAPSULE AND WE'LL BURY IT AT THE POOR FARM THAT, AND WE'LL ASK EACH CITY, WE'RE GONNA GIVE THEM A LITTLE TIME CAPSULE AND EACH CITY WILL PUT IN THINGS ABOUT THEIR CITY INSIDE THE TIME CAPSULE.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'LL BURY OUT AT THE POOR FARM.

AND THEN ON THE 14TH, WE WERE LOOKING AT DOING, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A BOOTH UP HERE ON THE SQUARE OVER BY THE BACON BUILDING, AND WE'RE GONNA DO THE PINCH POTS AND THE ARROWHEAD AND PUT OUT A LOT OF, UM, HISTORY ABOUT KAUFFMAN COUNTY.

SO, UM, AND THEN ALSO WE WANT A HUGE, WE'RE GONNA DO A FLOAT AND THE HUNDRED 75TH FLOAT FOR THE COUNTY IN THE PARADE THAT MORNING.

AND WE'VE ALREADY TALKED TO FACILITIES AND THEY ARE ON BOARD ABOUT, ABOUT BUILDING THE FLOAT FOR US.

SO WHAT WE'RE HERE, UM, AND WE'RE ALSO DOING THE PHOTO BOOTH WITH A JAIL BACKGROUND OVER ON THE SIDE OF THE REMIX BUILDING.

SO WHILE WE'RE DOWNTOWN HAVING, WE ALWAYS HAVE A BOOTH DURING THE HARVEST FEST, UH, FOR HISTORICAL COMMISSION.

WE NEED TO DO THAT BECAUSE THAT'S OCTOBER IS ARCHEOLOGY MONTH.

AND, UM, THAT'S ONE OF OUR, OUR, UM, ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO DO THROUGHOUT THE YEAR TO BE ABLE TO BE IN GOOD STANDING WITH HISTORICAL COMMISSION.

SO WE'LL HAVE THAT FOR THE CHILDREN TO COME TO.

WE DO WANNA BE OVER AT THE BACON BUILDING.

THAT'LL BE, THAT'LL DRAW MORE PEOPLE TO THAT HISTORICAL BUILDING.

BUT, UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE EACH OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, THEIR HISTORICAL OR THEIR HISTORY DEPARTMENTS WORK ON FUN FACTS ABOUT THEIR COMMUNITY.

AND SO WE WERE JUST KIND OF GOING OVER, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS KAUFMAN NO KNOWN FOR? AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND HAVE THOSE FUN FACTS OUT THERE SO PEOPLE WILL KIND OF UNDERSTAND THOSE.

AND THEN, UM, A PHOTO BOOTH, LIKE SHE SAID, AN OPPORTUNITY.

IT'S GONNA HAVE, WE WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE AN OLD JAIL, BUT I DO HAVE, UH, THE HISTORY OF THE SHERIFF'S THROUGHOUT KAUFMAN COUNTY.

WE NEED TO ADD, UH, SHERIFF BEAVERS TO OUR BOOK.

BUT WE WOULD HAVE THAT ON DISPLAY THERE.

AND MAYBE WE COULD EVEN DO SOMETHING WITH THE COMMISSIONERS, THE JUDGES.

THERE'S SO MUCH WE COULD DO.

WE JUST, UM, WE WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS, BUT THE BOOTH AT DOWNTOWN, WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT IS JUST GONNA BE LIKE, REALLY ALL THE INFORMATION IS WILL BE THERE FOR SOMEONE TO WALK BY AND LOOK AND READ AND DO IT AT THEIR OWN PACE AND JUST HAVE THE STUFF UP THERE.

MAYBE EVEN HAVE SOME OF THE OLD FASHIONED GAMES THAT THE KIDS WOULD PLAY.

YOU KNOW, FIND OUT WHAT, WHAT THOSE GAMES WERE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

JUST KIND OF TAKE EVERYBODY A STEP BACK IN TIME.

WE JUST DON'T WANT IT TO GO WAYSIDE WHERE WE DON'T CELEBRATE OUR HUNDRED AND 75TH.

SO IS THE CITY, JEFF, ARE Y'ALL GOING TO PLAN ON, UH, CLOSING DOWN THE STREETS AROUND THE SQUARE AND HAVE THINGS UHHUH THAT WITH TDOT? YEAH.

YEAH, YEAH.

I, I PLAN ALL THE CITY EVENTS AND THE TDOT WE'VE ALREADY SUBMITTED TO TDOT, THE SQUARE WILL BE CLOSED DOWN.

RIGHT NOW.

WE ALREADY HAVE 60 VENDORS REGISTERED FOR THE EVENT.

WE CLOSED DOWN THE SQUARE AT 5:00 AM BECAUSE, WE'LL, FOR THE MUSIC, EVERYTHING IS GONNA BE ON THE SQUARE THIS YEAR.

THE CONCERTS, WE HAVE THE VENDORS, WE HAVE, UM, 12 FOOD TRUCKS ALREADY SIGNED UP RIGHT NOW.

UM, WE'RE REACHING OUT TO THE ISDS TO HAVE THEM HAVE THEIR FOOTBALL FOR ALL THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO DRILL TEAM BANDS.

WE WANT ALL THE MASCOTS.

WE'RE GONNA PUT ALL THE MASCOTS ON A FLOAT TOGETHER.

WE WANT 'EM TO HAVE A DANCE OFF AT THE END.

LIKE THE N F L KIND OF DOES.

JUST A HUGE COUNTYWIDE CELEBRATION THAT DAY TO INCORPORATE INTO OUR HARVEST FESTIVAL THAT WE ALREADY HAVE.

AND SO NOW I DID VOLUNTEER US TO DRESS AND 18, 18 48 ATTIRE UNTIL SHE SAID I HAD TO WEAR PUFFY PANTS AND WAVE AT EVERYBODY.

PUFFY PANTS.

I DON'T WEAR PUFFY PANTS.

, BUT I THINK YOU LOOK GOOD IN PANTS.

NO, YOU WOULD.

SO I THINK IT'D BE GOOD IF, IF THE, UH, COMMISSIONERS WOULD DRESS LIKE A THEY DID.

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IN 1848 TIME.

WELL, AND WE FOUND THE FIRST COMMISSIONER'S MEETING WAS HELD IN FEB, MARCH OF 1849.

REALLY? MM-HMM.

THAT'S COOL.

WE HAVE A LOT OF HISTORY THAT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO DIG THROUGH.

GOOD DEAL.

AND WE COULD EVEN HAVE, UH, THE MAYOR DRESSED THE SAME WAY IN 18 OR ACTUALLY, ACTUALLY, WE'RE ASKING ALL THE MAYORS TO BE ON THE FLOAT WITH ALL THE MASCOTS.

OH, JUDGE, FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, A QUICK LITTLE HISTORY TIDBIT.

THE, UH, SETTLEMENT HERE ACTUALLY PREDATES THE SETTLEMENT IN DALLAS AND IS THE OLDEST, UH, SETTLEMENT IN THE, THE TRINITY THREE FORKS REGION.

REALLY? AND, UH, WHAT I HAVE GATHERED IS THAT JOHN NEELY, BRYAN ACTUALLY CAME TO THE DALLAS AREA FIRST, BUT HE PUT A STAKE IN THE GROUND AND WENT BACK AND DIDN'T COME BACK FOR A COUPLE YEARS.

OH.

AND WHEN, WHEN OUR FOLKS CAME HERE, THEY ACTUALLY STARTED SETTLING IT RIGHT THEN.

SO HE GOT THERE A LITTLE BEFORE, BUT WE ACTUALLY MADE THE SETTLEMENT FIRST AROUND HERE.

OKAY, COOL.

SO, GOOD DEAL.

AND NOW IT GREW A LITTLE FASTER THAN WE DID.

WELL, THAT'S OKAY.

THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY WE DO THE ARCHE ARCHEOLOGICAL STUDIES FOR THE BYPASS ROAD AROUND BEHIND THE COURTHOUSE.

'CAUSE THEY GOT HERE AND DROVE THE STAKE BACK THERE.

ON THE CREEK.

SHORTLY AFTER THEY SETTLED, THEY TRIED TO START MAKING A BYPASS AROUND THE TOWN, I THINK.

I THINK WE'LL BE EXCITED ABOUT PARTICIPATING IN THIS.

I KNOW YOU HAVE A TENTATIVE BUDGET, WHICH IS NOT MUCH AT ALL, UH, AND HAVE SOME ACTIVITIES AT THE POOR FARM.

AND WE WILL DEFINITELY PARTICIPATE.

IS THAT OKAY? I'M, I'M SPEAKING FOR US.

WE NEED THAT.

THERE'S A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION THAT WE PARTICIPATE.

WELL, I'M GOING, I'VE ALREADY PAID FOR DAYS TO BOW HUNT.

OH, HANG ON.

SHANNON TIINA, GOOD MORNING.

BUT MY GUYS WILL BE HERE FOR TOUCH OF TRUCK.

I'LL BE HERE.

JACKIE.

A YOU MAKING A SECOND ON THAT MOTION? I'LL MAKE A SECOND ON THAT.

ALL IN FAVOR, CI AYE.

[5. Shannon Tijerina; Discuss/Consider approving the final plat for Meadow Ranch Estates Phase II, Lots 11A, 11B, and 11C, located at County Road 4127 in Precinct 4.]

DISCUSS, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPRO THE FINAL PLATT FOR MEADOW RANCH ESTATES PHASE TWO LOTS, 11 A, 11 B 11 C LOCATED AT CANYON ROAD 41 27 IN PRECINCT FOUR.

GOOD MORNING.

LOT 11 OF MEADOW RANCH ESTATE SPACE TWO IS APPROXIMATELY 10.43 ACRES.

MR. LOPEZ IS SPLITTING THAT INTO THREE LOTS.

TWO OF THOSE LOTS ARE ROUGHLY 2.67 ACRES.

THE THIRD LOT IS ABOUT 4.66 ACRES.

ALL OF THE APPROVING AUTHORITIES HAVE REVIEWED AND SIGNED OFF.

AND WE'RE ASKING FOR THE COURT'S APPROVAL FOR THE FINAL PLATT.

SO IT MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS.

AND THE PUB, IT'S A REPL.

SO THE PUBLIC NOTICE HAS APPEARED IN THE NEWSPAPER.

UM, AND ALL OF THE NOTIFICATIONS WERE SENT TO THE RESIDENCE AS WELL.

AND YOU SAID ALL, EVERYBODY SIGNED OFF IN THE RESIDENT? NO, SIR.

NO, THE APPROVING ALL OF THE ENGINEER OF THE COUNTY SURVEY.

AND NOBODY CAME TO SPEAK AGAINST THAT.

YES, I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM ANYONE.

SO YOU'RE GOOD THEN.

SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

WILLIAM, MR. MR. MAKE SOME MOTIONS.

AYE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR.

NUMBER SIX,

[6. Jerry Martin; Discuss/Consider approving/disapproving Wesley McCurley's Appeal of the Development Support Committee's Decision Regarding Variance Request for Section 10, Item B of the OSSF Order.]

JERRY MARTIN.

AND WE HAVE, LET ME READ IT FIRST.

JERRY MARTIN DISCUSSED AND CONSIDER APPROVING OR DISAPPROVING WESLEY MCKINLEY'S APPEAL FOR DEVELOPMENT SUPPORT COMMITTEE'S DECISION REGARDING VARIANCE REQUEST FOR SECTION 10 ITEM B OF THE O S S F ORDER.

GOOD MORNING, JUDGE.

COMMISSIONERS, WHY? SO THE MCCURLEY HAD TURNED IN A PERMIT FOR A NEW SEPTIC SYSTEM ON A SECOND HOUSE ON THEIR PROPERTY.

THEIR PROPERTY IS 1.97 ACRES, WHICH MAKES IT FALL UNDER THE, THE ONE ACRE OF USABLE THRESHOLD PER HOME.

PERCEPT THE, UH, UNDER THE ORDINANCE, IT WAS APPROVED IN 2022.

IT'S NOW USABLE.

SO ANY, UH, CREEKS, PONDS, UH, RIGHT OF WAYS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT GOES AGAINST THAT ONE ACRE POLICY THAT WAS IN PLACE FOR MANY YEARS BEFORE THAT, WHICH, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS ONE ACRE PER HOME PER SEPTIC.

THE, UH, THE ORIGINAL PERMIT WAS DENIED BY MY OFFICE.

IT DID, FOR THAT REASON, GOING UNDER THE ONE ACRE PER HOME.

UH, IT DID GO IN FRONT OF THE COMMITTEE FOR VARIANCE, WHICH IT WAS DENIED AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL.

AND THE MCCURLEY ARE HERE ASKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL OF THAT PERMIT.

ONLY LIKE THREE TENTHS OF AN ACRE OF HAVING ENOUGH, RIGHT? 30 HUNDREDS, THREE, 100.

SO THAT MEANS I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THIS AND THE MCCURLEY, IF Y'ALL LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK, PLEASE DO SO.

CAN YOU SIGNED UP SO THEY

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YEAH, I, I WAS LOOKING HERE FOR THE COMMITTEE.

WHO WAS THERE? I KNOW IT'S IN NEWSPAPERS.

TELL ME WHO WAS THERE.

I'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL THESE PAPERS, PLEASE.

UH, IT WAS, I WAS PRESENT, UH, THE FIRE MARSHALS WERE PRESENT.

UH, MS. TINO WAS PRESENT.

UH, I THINK MR. MCKENZIE MAY HAVE BEEN THERE.

UH, I THERE WAS FIVE OR SIX OF YOU THERE.

KE ON PERKINS? YEAH, KE ON PERKINS.

OUR ENGINEERING FIRM WAS THERE.

THEY WERE ONLINE, SO.

UH, THERE WAS FIVE OR SIX PEOPLE THERE FOR THAT COMMITTEE.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE.

I'M PAULA MCCARLEY.

THIS IS MY HUSBAND, WESLEY SCOTT MCCARLEY.

UH, WE HAD OUR HOUSE DELIVERED ON JUNE 22ND OF THIS YEAR.

NO, KNOWING OF THE HALF ACRE, UH, THE ONE ACRE VARIANCE, ONE ACRE, WE, WE DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS, WE DIDN'T KNOW ONE AC YEAH.

WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS A ONE ACRE PER LAND BECAUSE WE ALREADY GOT THE HOUSE SET UP.

WE'VE GOT WATER ELECTRIC ALREADY OUT THERE AND I DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS ONE ACRE PER HOUSEHOLD.

AND I'M TRYING TO MOVE OUT THERE TO HELP MY DAD.

HE'S HAD A COUPLE HEART ATTACKS IN THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS.

HE'S HAS THERAPY AND THAT'S WHAT I DO.

I, NOT WHAT I DO.

I'M A STAY HOME MOM AND I CAN HELP TAKE HIM PLACES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

HIS ABILITY TO GET AROUND IS BEING RESTRICTED VERY BADLY.

UH, AND QUICKLY.

UM, IT'S, WE ARE JUST TRYING TO GET THE AEROBIC 'CAUSE IT'S JUST THE LAST THING WE NEED.

WE NEED, WE'VE GOT WATER NOT HOOKED UP, BUT WE HAVE THE METER AND WE HAVE ELECTRIC ALREADY HOOKED UP TO THE HOUSE.

GARY, THE, THE PLAN THAT THEY'VE SUBMITTED WILL WORK THOUGH, RIGHT? ACCORDING THE ONLY, THE ONLY THING THAT WE'RE MISSING IS THE THREE 100 OF AN ACER.

IS THAT KIND OF CORRECT? YES, SIR.

I MEAN, A, ACCORDING TO THE DESIGN THAT WAS TURNED IN THE DESIGN YEAH.

WOULD WORK.

IT'S JUST THAT TECHNICALITY OF THE ACRE IN OUR ORDERS, SO.

WELL I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, OUR REGULATIONS ON THAT, BUT T C E Q ONLY REQUIRES A HALF ACRE, ISN'T THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT, YES, SIR.

THE, THE STATE MINIMUM IS A HALF ACRE.

I MEAN, WE'RE WELL WITHIN THE STATE GUIDELINES THREE 100, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SIZE OF LESS THAN THIS ONE.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WHO, WHO'S PRECINCT THIS IN? PRECINCT THREE.

YEAH, IT'S GONNA BE MINE.

I'M DON'T SEE A PROBLEM.

SO WHAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION? I, I RECOMMEND WE GO AHEAD AND APPROVE FOR THESE FOLKS TO DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO THERE.

I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH IT AT ALL.

YOU MAKE THAT IN THE FORM OF A MOTION.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

[7. Tandl Smith; Present/Accept the Elections Department Quarterly Report.]

MS. TANDY, YOU'RE UP.

SHE'S GONNA PRESENT AND FOR US TO ACCEPT THE ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT QUARTERLY REPORTS.

SO I EMAILED YOU GENTLEMEN THAT QUARTERLY REPORT LAST MONDAY.

DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE INFORMATION WITHIN IT? NO.

LOOKS LIKE YOU'VE BEEN VERY BUSY.

EXTREMELY.

WHICH IS A GOOD THING.

ALWAYS.

CERTAINLY.

ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT NO.

OUR REPORT? NO.

NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT IT THEN I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER PHIS MAKES THE MOTION.

I'LL BEAT YOU TO IT.

YOU GOT MR. BARBER? I'LL BEAT TO IT.

MAY A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AGAIN, DISCUSS, CONSIDER PROVING THE ELECTION ORDER FOR NOVEMBER 7TH, 23 CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT ELECTION IN KAUFFMAN COUNTY.

OKAY, MS. TANDY, NUMBER EIGHT,

[8. Tandi Smith; Discuss/Consider approving the Election Order for the November 7,2023, Constitutional Amendment Election in Kaufman County.]

YES MA'AM.

THAT IS CORRECT.

THE GOVERNOR ISSUED THE FORMAL PROCLAMATION TO CALL THE ELECTION.

HOWEVER THE CODE REQUIRES THAT WE DO A LOCAL ORDER AS WELL.

AND THIS IS JUST FOR THOSE 14 AMENDMENTS.

THIS IS JUST THE ORDERS FOR THE COUNTY ELECTION.

THE EIGHT ENTITIES JOINING ON OUR BALLOT WILL BE DOING THEIR OFF.

ALRIGHT, WELL WE HAVE TO DO IT.

WE HAVE TO DO IT.

HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION MR. TO MAKES THE MOTION.

I'LL HAVE A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

FIFTH SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A AYE.

THANK YOU TANDY.

WHOA, WE GOT ONE MORE LAST ONE I PROMISE TODAY.

OH, OKAY.

DISCUSS.

CONSIDER ONE OF GONNA COST US MONEY THOUGH.

APPROVAL OF THE LOGO AND BRANDING DEVELOPMENT PROJECT FOR COFFMAN COUNTY ELECTIONS WITH ELECTIONS GROUP.

[9. Tandi Smith; Discuss/Consider approval for the Logo and Branding development project for Kaufman County Elections with the Elections Group.]

SO I SUBMITTED TO YOU GUYS SOME INFORMATION

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AND BACKGROUND ON THIS.

WE'VE SPOKE WITH DONNA, WE'VE RAN IT THROUGH DEB HONOR WITH THE DA'S OFFICE.

THEY DON'T SEE ANY ISSUES WITH IT.

SHE'S GONNA ALLOW US TO PARTNER WITH THIS NONPROFIT GROUP.

WE'RE GONNA GET OUR LOGO INCORPORATED WITH THE COUNTY LOGO TO MAKE OUR BRAND FOR THE DEPARTMENT SO THAT WHEN WE'RE POSTING THINGS ON SOCIAL MEDIA, IT'S MORE SEEN AND NOT SKIPPED OVER.

UM, IT'S GONNA ALLOW US TO GET SOME TEMPLATES AND THINGS IN PLACE WELL AHEAD OF 2024 THAT WE CAN USE NOT ONLY FOR 2024 ELECTION CYCLE, BUT FROM HERE ON OUT.

SO IT'S A REALLY NEAT PROJECT TO GET EVERYTHING SELF-BUILT ALL IN ONE AND BE ABLE TO HAVE THINGS READY TO JUST PRE-POST TO THE WEBSITES QUESTIONS.

UH, WELL REALLY NOT SO MUCH FOR THAT.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO KIND OF, SO PEOPLE CAN SEE.

'CAUSE A LOT OF THINGS HAVE CHANGED RIGHT.

WITH A LOT OF LEGISLATION THAT, UH, HAS PASSED.

I GUESS CAN YOU GIVE US AN UPDATE ON WHERE YOU'RE AT WITH THAT AND KIND OF A WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THE LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS? YEAH.

WHAT, WHAT THEY, AND THEN HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA COST US.

THEY'VE COMPLETED TWO OF THE SPECIAL SESSIONS.

UM, WE ARE POTENTIALLY LOOKING AT A THIRD THAT MAY NOT BE FINISHED UNTIL OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR.

UM, THAT HAS NOT BEEN MADE OFFICIAL YET.

UH, BUT CURRENTLY, YES, WE WERE IMPACTED BY FORMS. JUST AS WE STATED IN OUR BUDGET.

THAT'S GONNA BE THE GREATEST THING.

UM, WE WERE HOPING TO EXPEND SOME FORMS OUT OF THE CURRENT YEAR'S BUDGET, BUT THE STATE IS NOT EVEN RELEASING THOSE NEW DOCUMENTS UNTIL SEPTEMBER 1ST, WHICH MAKES GETTING THE PO AND THE ITEMS TO RECEIPT AND PAY BEFORE THE END OF THE SCHOOL YEAR.

IT WOULD BE WOULD GOOD IF WE COULD DO THAT IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.

WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING.

WE'RE TRYING.

UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN IT'S A STATE, A STATE PRESCRIBED FORM, WE'RE AT THE MERCY OF THE STATE TO GET THE FORM AND THEY HAVE, THEY REFUSE TO RELEASE ANY OF THOSE UNTIL SEPTEMBER 1ST.

SO WELL, UH, WE DO HAVE SOME SIGNAGE CHANGES FROM SENATE BILL 4 77, OUR CURBSIDE VOTING, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD COHENS OUT THERE THAT SAY CURBSIDE VOTING AND IT LISTS A PHONE NUMBER.

NOW WE'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE SPECIFIC VERBIAGE ON THAT.

UM, SO AS A WORKAROUND TO NOT REPLACE THE ENTIRE CONE PROCESS, WE'RE GONNA MAKE SOME SIGNS LAMINATE 'EM AND GO OVER THE EXISTING CURBSIDE CONE TOPPERS.

SO THAT WILL HELP SAVE SOME FUNDS THERE.

SO THEY'RE NOT WHAT HAVING TO REINVENT THE WHEEL WITH THAT.

UM, BUT THE BIGGEST PART OF THIS IS GONNA BE OUR FORMS AND PROCESSES.

UM, THAT CURBSIDE VOTING CHANGE HAS ALSO MADE SOME, WHILE WE'VE ALWAYS HAD A REQUIREMENT FOR CURBSIDE VOTING, IT'S EXPANDING THE PARKING SPACES NEEDED BEFORE IT WAS ONE.

NOW IT IS TWO AND IT'S NOT YOUR HANDICAPS PARKING AREA THAT YOU CAN USE.

IT HAS TO BE SPECIFIC TO YOUR CURBSIDE VOTERS.

SO IT'S GONNA BE WORKING WITH OUR LOCATIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THOSE NEEDS MET FOR THOSE VOTERS AND THAT IT'S CLEARLY POSTED.

SO DO YOU HAVE PLENTY OF LOCATIONS? UH, SO FAR SO GOOD.

SO FAR SO GOOD.

UM, LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GONNA HAVE 21 FOR THIS ELECTION.

2021 FOR THIS ELECTION HERE.

UM, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, 40 I S D HAS REQUESTED SOME ADDITIONAL EARLY VOTING LOCATIONS.

UHHUH, I'M IN THE PROCESS OF GOING OUT WITH THEM TO SEE, BECAUSE WHERE THEY PRE PLACED US PREVIOUSLY IS NOT GONNA MEET THE NEEDS OF THIS SENATE BILL 4 77.

SO THAT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS.

BUT OUR STANDARD EARLY VOTING LOCATIONS, WERE GOOD ON THOSE.

WE'VE MADE THE ADJUSTMENTS FOR OUR CONES.

MOST OF OUR ELECTION DAY SITES ARE GOOD TO GO AS WELL.

SO THE CONE THAT SAID CURBSIDE VOTING, CURBSIDE PARKING IS NOT SUFFICIENT.

NOPE.

FOR CURBSIDE PARKING.

ALRIGHT, WHAT ELSE DO YOU HAVE FOR US TODAY? OH, THIS IS THE LAST I HAVE FOR YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? DO I NEED A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

MR. PHELPS MAKES THE MOTION.

MR. BARROW HAS A SECOND.

NUMBER 10, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER EXITING REGULAR MEETING AND ENTER INTO PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE INPUT THE ADOPTION OF KAUFMAN COUNTY'S CLERK'S RECORDS ARCHIVE FUNDING PLAN PURSUANT TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE ONE 18.025.

APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH, JUDGE.

YES SIR.

HOW MUCH DO WE PAY FOR THE SOUND EFFECTS FOR THE JAWS THEME SONG? YEAH.

HEAR THAT ABOUT 1.4 .

WHAT IS THAT? OKAY,

[10. Judge Allen; Discuss/Consider exiting regular meeting and enter a public hearing to receive input regarding the adoption of the Kaufman County Clerk's Records Archive Funding Plan, pursuant to Local Government Code 118.025(g).]

SO I NEED A MOTION.

FEE THAT'S USED TO PRESERVE AND RESTORE OUR, UM, OUR ARCHIVE RECORDS.

MR. PHIS MAKES MOTION.

YOU'LL HAVE A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

MR. HUNT MAKES SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY A AYE.

THIS IS REQUIRED BY STATUTE THAT THE CLERK PRESENT AN ANNUAL PLAN FOR FUNDING THE RECORDS ARCHIVE.

EVERY BUDGET SESSION.

UH, WE POSTED IT IN THE NEWSPAPER.

AND, UH, BASICALLY WE'RE JUST ASKING YOU TO CONTINUE COLLECTION OF THE RECORDS MANAGEMENT

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KEEP DOING IT YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR.

THANK YOU LAURA.

DISCUSS CONSIDERING PUBLIC HEARING AND GO BACK INTO THE REGULAR MEETING TO HAVE A MOTION.

NUMBER 11.

[11. Judge Allen; Discuss/Consider exiting public hearing and enter back into a regular meeting.]

MR. BARBARA MAKES A MOTION.

NOW NUMBER 11, DISCUSS THE ADOPTION OF COUNTY CLERK'S RECORD ARCHIVING FUNDING PLAN.

MR. HUNT MAKES SECOND.

[12. Laura Hughes; Discuss/Consider adoption of the County Clerk's Records Archive Funding Plan.]

DO I HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

MR. PHILLIPS MAKES THE MOTION.

MR. BARR MAKES A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AND SAY AYE.

AYE.

THANK YOU

[13. Auditor; Discuss/Consider line-item and budget transfers/corrections.]

AUDITOR.

DISCUSS LINE ITEM AND BUDGET TRANSFERS.

GOOD MORNING, COURT.

MORNING.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LINE ITEM TRANSFERS AND BUDGET AMENDMENTS THAT WERE SENT FOR YOUR REVIEW? I DON'T ANYONE? NO.

I ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL THEN PLEASE.

I DO.

I NEED A MOTION THEN TO APPROVE.

MR. PHILLIPS MAKES A MOTION.

MR. MAKE A SECOND.

[14. Auditor; Discuss/Consider claims for payment and/or Financial Information as provided by the County Auditor.]

UH, NUMBER 14, AUDITOR.

DISCUSS, CONSIDER CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT OR FINANCIAL INFORMATION AS PROVIDED BY THE AUDITOR.

UH, YOUR CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT ARE MILLION $859,045 AND 91 CENTS.

UM, UM, WE SPENT, UH, PROBABLY ABOUT 300,000 ON, UH, YOUR ROAD BOND MONIES.

ROAD MATERIALS AND COVER ARE ABOUT 192,000 AND LATE.

DAM MAINTENANCE WAS 126, BUT WE GET SOME OF THAT REFUNDED.

THEN, UH, THE FINES, FEES, AND COURT COSTS FOR ABOUT 115,000.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS? NO.

I LOOKED IT OVER.

IT LOOKS GOOD.

OH, I ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER BARBARA MAKES MOTION.

WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP MEETING.

[15. Workshop - Discuss the FY23-24 budget.]

SO FIRST UP WE HAVE JACK, HE HAS AN IDEA HE WANTS TO BRING TO US.

GOOD MORNING GENTLEMEN.

MORNING JACK.

UH, NOT ASKING YOU FOR ANYTHING.

HAVE MAYBE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE.

UH, PURCHASING HAS, HAS A EXTRA VEHICLE THAT I GUESS WAS PURCHASED YEARS AGO.

UH, 2021 I BELIEVE IT WAS.

WE'VE GOT A, UH, TAHOE THAT SITS OUT THERE.

IT'S A, UH, POLICE PACKAGE.

IT'S KIND OF A LOAN VEHICLE.

UH, VARIOUS AREAS HAVE BORROWED IT.

UH, IT'S KIND OF SITTING OUT THERE AT TIMES.

WE USE IT.

MY MY STAFF USE IT AT TIMES.

GOING BACK AND FORTH TO DIFFERENT AREAS, INVENTORY AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

UH, I THINK IT MIGHT BE BETTER SERVED IF I WAS TO TRANSFER THAT VEHICLE, UH, TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

I, I SPOKE WITH THE SHERIFF'S MORNING.

UH, WHAT HE THOUGHT ABOUT IT, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF UNIQUE BECAUSE IT'S A 21.

SO IT KIND OF POSES A, UH, LITTLE MORE DIFFICULTY IN, IN BUYING EQUIPMENT AND PUTTING EQUIPMENT ON A VEHICLE THAT'S, THAT'S HALFWAY THROUGH THE LEASE.

BUT, UH, IF IT'S USED AS A SMOOTH CAR, UH, DOESN'T REQUIRE A LOT OF EQUIPMENT.

HE COULD USE THAT.

HE'S GOT PARTS AND REPAIR MONEY.

UH, HE COULD ADD JUST A MINIMAL EQUIPMENT TO IT AND, AND FINISH OUT THE LEASE.

AND THAT MIGHT, THAT WOULD FREE UP SOME FUNDS TO MAYBE BUY SEDAN OR, OR A, UH, SMALL S U V FOR THE PURCHASING STAFF TO USE FOR INVENTORY.

WHAT HAVE YOU.

UH, JUST MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE THAN HAVING THAT, THAT, UH, POLICE PACKAGE TAHOE SITTING OUT THERE ALL DAY LONG.

UH, LIKE I SAID, IT WON'T, IT WON'T IMPACT THE BUDGET I'LL GET WITH THE AUDITOR.

UH, MAKE SURE OF THAT.

AND WE ALSO HAVE TWO VEHICLES OUT THERE.

UH, THERE'S A PICKUP AND A SEDAN THAT'S GONNA BE SOLD AT AUCTION.

THAT MIGHT HELP IN THAT AREA AS WELL.

BUT, UH, I, I THINK IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE THAT VEHICLE TO SOMEONE WHO CAN USE IT.

WELL AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE NEED TO MAKE BETTER USE OF OUR VEHICLES.

EXACTLY.

PURCHASING NEEDS.

ONE FOR RISK MANAGEMENT TO GO OUT AND DO THE INVENTORY AND STUFF.

UH, AND THEY TRAVEL A LOT, RIGHT.

Y'ALL DO GET OUT QUITE A BIT.

AND SHERIFF, YOU'RE OKAY WITH THIS? YES, SIR.

CAN BE USED.

SO IT WILL BE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR THE COUNTY TO DO THIS.

NO DOUBT.

INSTEAD OF SOMETHING SETTING ITEM.

WELL, HOW MUCH, ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH TRAVELING DOES PURCHASING DO? I KNOW ANNUALLY YOU DO THE INVENTORY.

WELL, OF COURSE WE'RE LOOKING TO STEP THAT UP ON INVENTORY.

INVENTORY OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF BEEN, UH, DONE AT A MINIMAL, UH, EFFORT IN LIKE A BIANNUAL TYPE DEAL.

IT, THE TILE WE HAVE NOW IS JUST, I THINK FOR THE, THE EXPENSIVE VEHICLE THAT IT IS, IT'S KIND OF A WASTE OF MONEY TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

AND, AND RATHER THAN GO OUT THERE AND TRY TO DO IT ALL IN A COUPLE MONTHS, I, I PERCEIVE THAT AS BEING SOMETHING THAT'S DONE ALL THE TIME.

UH, THAT WE'RE KIND OF GOING, DOING ALL THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, TWO MONTHS OF THE YEAR.

UH, OF COURSE WE RUN BACK AND FORTH TO THE JUST CENTER ALL THE TIME.

UH, AND THEN THEY HAVE TRAINING THAT THEY GO ON.

SO IT, IT, IT, IT WOULD BE USED QUITE A BIT.

OF COURSE.

UH, THERE AGAIN, IT'S,

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OH, I WAS, I WAS, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T KNOW Y'ALL RAN BACK AND FORTH TO THE JUSTICE CENTER, BUT A LOT.

BUT I WAS THINKING JUST PAY MILEAGE, YOU KNOW, FOR THE TWICE TIME, TWO TIMES A YEAR THAT Y'ALL GO DO INVENTORY AT THE FOUR PRECINCTS.

WELL, WE'RE GETTING TO THE SIZE NOW WHERE THEY'RE GONNA BE GOING OUT A LOT EVERY MONTH.

THEY'D BE GOING SOMEWHERE.

'CAUSE AS MUCH AS WE'RE EVOLVING AND CHANGING IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, WE'RE ADDING, UH, YEAH.

CAR OUT.

EVEN WITH THE MILEAGE.

AND BE HONEST WITH YOU, YOU KNOW, THE INVENTORY'S KIND OF A MESS.

WE'RE TRYING TO START SOME NEW THINGS, YOU KNOW, KNOW WHERE WE TAKE PICTURES OF EQUIPMENT, UH, THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR WHEN WE GO OUT THERE.

WE'VE HAD SOME THINGS WE'VE HAD A HARD TIME FINDING HERE RECENTLY.

UH, JUST WANT TO GET IT STEP UP ON, ON, ON THE PROCEDURE AND, AND GET EVERYTHING IN ORDER.

AND EVEN T HAS TOLD ME WE NEED TO IMPROVE OUR RISK MANAGEMENT, BUT IT'S NOT WHERE IT SHOULD BE.

SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO STEP THAT UP AND IT'S GONNA TAKE ANOTHER, PROBABLY ANOTHER EMPLOYEE TO DO THAT.

'CAUSE IT'S A FULL-TIME JOB ON, ON THAT CAR.

IS IT LEASED CAR? THE NEW ONE? THE, THE TAHOE IS, AND I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.

THAT WAS DONE IN 21 SO I'M NOT SURE HOW, I THINK IT WAS EXTRA CAR.

WE HAVE MONEY IN OUR BUDGET BY THE WAY, FOR, UH, MAINTENANCE AND WE PAY FOR THE OIL CHANGES AND THE GASOLINE FOR OTHER AREAS TO USE IT.

SO IT'S NOT REALLY GONNA IMPACT US AT ALL.

UH, JUDGE MA'AM, I'D LIKE TO, UH, BACK MR. JACK UP.

WE JUST ADDED ABOUT $200 MILLION WORTH OF ASSETS.

THINGS NEED TO BE TAGGED AND ACCOUNTED FOR AND UH, IT HASN'T BEEN DONE PRIOR TO MR. JACK COMING AND WE'RE TRYING TO HELP HIM GET THAT CLEANED UP AND GET IT ESTABLISHED.

SO THAT'S PROBABLY WHY HE WAS WILLING TO GIVE UP THAT KIND OF VEHICLE TO GET SOMETHING TO SEND THAT PERSON OUT TO GET ALL THIS ACCOUNTED FOR.

YEP.

THAT MAKES SENSE.

YEAH, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.

I THINK YOU NEED TO GO FORWARD.

TAKE CARE OF YOUR PLAN.

THANK YOU MUCH.

I SEE.

UH, WE'RE GONNA GO OVER ANYONE WHO HAS REQUESTS.

I KNOW MONIQUE WAS THE FIRST ONE TO CALL ME ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WAS LEFT OFF HER REQUEST.

SO WOULD YOU COME FORWARD AND PLEAD YOUR CASE? , DID Y'ALL BRING YOUR BUDGET BOOK WITH YOU? YEAH.

WHAT'S THE PAGE NUMBER'S? IT'S PAGE, UM, 63.

63.

THERE'S UH, TWO THINGS I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT.

UM, THE REQUEST FIRST, UM, I HAD ASKED, WE HAD THE FIRE MARSHAL AND I HAD SHARED A CLERK AND THEN WE FOUND THAT IT WAS A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT THAN THAT BECAUSE HE WOULD HAVE FIRE MEETINGS AND I WOULD HAVE DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS AND COORDINATING THAT SCHEDULE DIDN'T WORK OUT.

HE THEN I DIDN'T HAVE SOMEBODY IN THE WINDOW, SO FORTH AND SO ON.

AND SO, UM, WE TRANSFERRED MY CLERK TO HIM COMPLETELY, THE WHOLE LINE ITEM AND EVERYTHING TO HIS BUDGET.

AND I ASKED THAT I GET THAT CLERK REPLACED IN MY BUDGET, UM, FOR THIS YEAR SO THAT I CAN HIRE THAT REPLACEMENT.

UM, I DIDN'T HEAR BACK ON THAT, SO I WAS ASKING ABOUT THAT.

WELL, I DID NOT GET YOUR REQUEST ORIGINALLY.

I'M SORRY.

SINCE WE SPOKE, I THOUGHT I HAD THREE PAGE, I MEAN IT WAS THREE PAGES.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE MIDDLE PAGE WENT.

, SOMEBODY ATE IT.

THAT'S OKAY.

OKAY, SO YOUR REQUEST IS FOR THE 40,000, UH, IT'S 40,333, UM, FOR THE BASE.

AND THEN MS. KAREN, THEN WE'LL HAVE TO DO THE OTHER ITEMS. OKAY.

THEN YOUR SECOND REQUEST ON THAT, RIGHT UNDERNEATH THAT IS MM-HMM.

SO WHEN I ACQUIRED ENVIRONMENTAL, I HAD DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVES WHEN WE TOOK OVER ENVIRONMENTAL, WE CREATED JOB POSITIONS FOR ENVIRONMENTAL ONES.

I MADE IT A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY GET THEIR DR LICENSE SO THAT WE DON'T SEND OUT AN ENVIRONMENTAL PERSON AND THEY STUMBLE UPON A SEPTIC BUT CAN'T TOUCH A SEPTIC 'CAUSE THEY DON'T CARRY A LICENSE.

SO I HAD A DR POSITION SITTING THERE THAT WAS JUST DOING SEPTIC INSPECTIONS AND KEEPING THE, UH, PROVIDERS HAPPY.

BUT I COULDN'T CALL 'EM OUT ON AN ENVIRONMENTAL.

SO WHAT I'M ASKING IS TO DELETE THE, OR NOT DELETE TO MAKE THAT DR POSITION IN ENVIRONMENTAL ONE.

AND THE DIFFERENCE IS $2,201.

OTHERWISE YOU HAVE ONE GUY THERE THAT CAN'T GO DEAL WITH TALL GRASS.

HE'S NOT AN ENVIRONMENTAL ONE.

AND THOSE, I'M SORRY, BUT THOSE JOB DESCRIPTIONS MEAN SOMETHING TO THEM.

, YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT IN THE JOB DESCRIPTION.

AND THEY'RE

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SO THIS WOULD MAKE IT TO WHERE WE HAD, UM, THEY WERE ALL ENVIRONMENTAL QUALIFIED AND ALL DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVES.

SO YOU HAVE ALL OF THEM BEING ABLE TO PERFORM ALL THE SAME DUTIES, SAME JOB DUTIES.

YOU'RE DUPLICATING WASTING TIME.

MAKES IT A LOT EASIER FOR SCHEDULING.

MAKES IT A LOT EASIER FOR SENDING THEM OUT ON CALLS.

WE DON'T WANT ONE PERSON TO DO ONE THING, THEN SEND SOMEONE ELSE OUT.

YOU'RE WASTING TIME.

YOU'RE USING TWO EMPLOYEES TO HANDLE ONE COMPLAINT.

WHAT ONE EMPLOYEE COULD DO.

COMMENTS, QUESTIONS.

WELL, I MEAN REALLY AND TRULY, THIS IS A SELF REALLY PRETTY MUCH A SELF-FUNDED DEPARTMENT.

AND I WAS TRYING TO FIND YOUR REVENUES, BUT OH, IT MIGHT BE TOO SMALL.

HEY, I'M CLOSE TO THE MILLION.

KAREN CAN TELL YOU YEAH, 1,000,003 .

THAT'S YEAH.

WE TRY TO COVER EVERYTHING THAT WE DO FOR OUR DEPARTMENT.

TRY TO COVER IT.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE UM, UH, LOOKED AT UH, COST AND FEES.

WE COLLECT ADDRESSING FEES NOW THAT THEY WERE DOING FOR FREE.

AND THAT'S A LOT OF WORK.

SO WE'RE COLLECTING THAT.

I MEAN, WE GOTTA CHECK 20 GRAND LAST WEEK.

SO WE'RE TRYING OUR BEST TO COVER THE DEPARTMENT, NOT COST THE COUNTY.

YEP.

WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE, GENTLEMEN? SOUNDS LIKE A PLAN.

GOTTA GO AHEAD.

WE NEED TO VISIT WITH YOU VISITED WITH KAREN.

I'M SURE ABOUT THIS.

KAREN.

I GOT THE, UH, TOTAL FROM, UH, BRANDY.

THE BEFORE WHEN I WAS CREATING THIS.

DO WE HAVE ROOM FOR THIS? I ASSUME WE DO.

I OR YOU CAN FIND IT.

I'LL FIND IT.

YOU'LL FIND IT.

I NEED A MOTION THEN TO PROVE THIS.

THERE'S A TREE SOMEWHERE.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS.

A YARD.

SHE GOT, SHE GOT A WAND.

WELL, NO, IF YOU'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, YOU NEED TO TALK TO ME AND NOT THE FIRST ASSISTANT.

'CAUSE SHE'S NOT KILLING ME.

SOME OF THIS STUFF.

OH.

AND I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

SORRY.

IT'S OKAY.

I THOUGHT I SUBMITTED.

LET YOUR SLAP ON THE WRIST FOR TODAY.

DON'T DO IT AGAIN.

I'M GETTING SLAPPED ALL THE TIME THESE DAYS.

I NEED A MOTION.

I'M USED TO IT THOUGH.

MR. MAKES THE MOTION.

IF SECOND, I'LL SECOND.

MR. BAR MAKES A SECOND.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW WE WENT OUT FOR THE F I F GRANT, RIGHT? SO WITH THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD, WE DID OUR STUDIES, WE HAD OUR SIX SITES.

OKAY, NOW WE'RE IN THE BUCKET.

TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD IS REVIEWING THEIR BUDGET AND THEN THEY WILL RELEASE FUNDS BECAUSE OF OUR PRE-PREP.

WE WOULD THEN BE ELIGIBLE FOR SOME OF THAT MONEY.

UM, WHEN THE TIME COMES FREEZING NICKELS.

UM, USUALLY WE RELY ON THEM TO PREPARE ALL THAT STUFF 'CAUSE IT'S SO TECHNICAL AND SO DIFFICULT TO SUBMIT FOR THOSE THAT FRIES AND NICHOLS HAS HANDLED THAT FOR US IN THE PAST.

SO WHAT I WANTED YOU TO KNOW IS THAT, UM, I GOT SORT OF A PRICE, UH, QUOTE FROM FRIES AND NICHOLS JUST TO, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS WANT TO PUT SOME MONEY ASIDE FOR WHEN THE TIME COMES THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY GET MONEY FOR OUR DRAINAGE, BUT IT'S, UM, IT'LL BE, WE HAVE SIX SITES.

IT ROUGHLY WOULD BE $20,000 PER SITE IF WE CHOSE TO APPLY.

THERE'S NO LOCK IN.

I JUST WANTED Y'ALL TO CONSIDER THAT WHEN YOU'RE DOING YOUR BUDGET, THAT'S JUST TO APPLY.

HAS TO APPLY.

WELL, LIKE ONE OF MY PROJECTS IS LIKE $8 MILLION.

AND WHAT PERCENTAGE ARE, OKAY, SO THIS IS DIFFERENT.

YOU'RE, THIS IS TO APPLY FOR GRANT MONEY AND THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD DOES IT MULTIPLE WAYS.

ONE, YOU CAN GET A GRANT AND AN INTEREST FREE LOAN OR THEY CAN GIVE YOU JUST AN IN INTEREST FREE LOAN OR, I MEAN, THEY'VE GOT SOME STIPULATIONS ON WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO BASED ON HOW WE SCORE.

SO IF WE HAVE REALLY CRITICAL AREAS, THEN RIZ NICHOLS SAYS THAT WE WOULD GET GRANT MONEY AND THEN MADE VERY MINIMALLY OUT OF OUR POCKET.

BUT WE HAVE NO COMMITMENT TO THAT.

WE CAN TURN THAT DOWN, BUT YOU WON'T HAVE A CHANCE AT ANY OF IT IF YOU DON'T APPLY.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M LETTING YOU GUYS KNOW.

SO THE LOCATION YOU DID ALL THE LEGWORK NICHOLS BROUGHT TO US EARLIER THIS YEAR.

, IT'S GONNA COST US A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS TO APPLY.

IT'LL BE 120,000 IF YOU APPLIED FOR ALL SIX.

BUT ALL SIX MIGHT NOT QUALIFY.

IT MIGHT GET RANKED ONE NUMBER 39 ON THE LIST.

BUT WE LOSE OUR MONEY.

IF WE DON'T GET IT, YOU LOSE IT OR YOU DON'T GAIN IT.

BUT I WANT YOU GUYS TO BE AWARE OF WHAT COULD BE COMING DOWN THE LINE BECAUSE YOU WENT FOR THE DRAINAGE STUDY.

IS THERE A DEADLINE TO APPLY? WELL, THEY HAVEN'T OPENED IT YET.

I JUST WANT YOU GUYS TO BE PREPARED IN THE BUDGET, HOWEVER Y'ALL WANT TO PROCEED.

SO OF ALL THOSE SITES, HOW MANY ARE REALLY CRITICAL? SIX OF THEM.

THERE WERE SIX OF THEM.

OR WELL BELIEVE IT.

SIX OF CRITICAL.

WELL, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WE HAD ACTUALLY 35.

WE HAD TO NARROW IT DOWN TO SIX.

SAY WE NARROWED IT DOWN TO SIX.

WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT SIX.

THERE'S A, THERE'S A SECTION IN, UH, 40,000 PAGE ONE BY THE 40 THAT SUBDIVISION ONE, THERE'S SOME ROADS THAT ARE BELOW, UH, THAT ARE UNDERWATER ALL THE

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TIME.

SO WE HAD TO NARROW IT DOWN TO SIX SITES.

FREEZING NICHOLS DID ALL THE WORK ON THAT GROUNDWORK.

MET WITH THE COMMISSIONERS, GAVE A MATCH, TOLD US WHERE'S YOUR CRITICALS? AND THEY DID ALL THE PAPERWORK.

UM, WITH THE HELP OF THE AUDITOR AND THE COUNTY ENGINEER.

THEY, THEY ALL WORKED TOGETHER TO, TO GET THAT DONE.

SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE YOU HAVE TO SPEND TO GET, I GUESS IS HOW THAT PROCESS WORKS.

BUT I JUST WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE THAT IF WE, THEY OPEN UP $680 MILLION, YOU COULD POTENTIALLY GET SOME OF THAT TO FIX YOUR PROBLEMS, YOUR DRAINAGE PROBLEMS. BUT YOU HAVE TO APPLY.

WE COULDN'T APPLY IF WE DIDN'T DO THIS STUDY AND WE ALREADY GOT A GRANT FOR THE STUDY, WHICH WAS 280 GRAND, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO WE DID GET A GRANT FOR THAT.

SO WE'RE HOPING THAT WE'RE GONNA GET SOME GRANT MONEY TO FIX SOME OF OUR DRAINAGE PROBLEMS IN SOME OF THESE VERY CRITICAL AREAS.

WOW.

WELL WE JUST, WE JUST GOT THREE WHAT? 313,000, UH, EARN OR INTEREST MONEY, DIDN'T WE IN WHAT? THE 13, 13,000 .

ANYWAY, I JUST WANT YOU TO KEEP THAT IN MIND FOR ANYTHING.

THAT'S RIGHT.

WE MAY HAVE TO GO THERE, UH, TO GET THE MONEY, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

, WE DON'T KNOW YET.

I MEAN, I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT IN YOUR GUYS' HEAD BECAUSE YOU ARE PLANNING FOR THE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHEN THEY'RE GONNA, AND I WANT YOU TO SEE, WE USUALLY KEEP THAT IN A SEPARATE FUND AND THEN WE TRANSFER THE MONEY AS WE NEED IT.

GET REIMBURSED.

BUT I WANT YOU TO BE AWARE.

I KIND OF GOT YOU A QUOTE ON WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

UM, WE NEED TO MAKE A LIST.

WE NEED TO HAVE A RUNNING LIST OVER THERE OF MONIES THAT WE MIGHT NEED .

THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO USE.

I MEAN, AND WE MIGHT NOT USE 'EM 'CAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY'RE, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHEN THEY'RE GONNA OPEN IT UP.

THEY MIGHT NOT OPEN IT UP.

THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO END IT UP, UH, OPEN IT UP THE END OF SEPTEMBER.

THEY'RE KIND OF DELAYED BECAUSE THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD, UH, GENTLEMAN RETIRED.

I'M SAYING, WELL, WE CAN'T OPEN IT NOW.

WE'LL OPEN IT NEXT MARCH OR RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN, BUT WE ARE THIS, WE ARE READY.

EVERYTHING WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST HAS PREPARED US TO BE A CONTENDER FOR, FOR THAT GRANT MONEY.

, I THINK JASON, YOU WERE IN HERE NEXT.

SO I HAVE NOTHING TO TALK ABOUT, JUDGE.

I'M JUST HERE TO LISTEN.

WHO ANYONE ELSE WANNA SPEAK? WHAT ARE WE DOING THE BUDGET FIRST, JEFF? I WAS JUST GONNA LET Y'ALL KNOW THAT THOSE, UH, VISUALS WERE EMAILED TO YOU.

YEAH, I GOT IT HERE.

YEAH, I SAW IT.

I'M, I'M LOOKED AT IT.

THANK YOU MICHELLE.

GOOD MORNING.

SO, UM, JUDGE WALLY IS IN CHICAGO THIS WEEK, SO I'M HERE ON HER BEHALF.

AND, UM, ONE THING WE JUST WANTED TO PUT BEFORE YOU AGAIN, UH, FOR THE BUDGET, YOU KNOW, IN FEBRUARY WE WENT AND APPLIED FOR A GRANT FOR THE TASK FORCE FOR THIS AREA.

AND OUR ASK BACK IN FEBRUARY WAS THE FULL SALARY OF AN INVESTIGATOR AND A PROSECUTOR.

AND THAT INCLUDED INSURANCE FRINGE BENEFITS, EVERYTHING.

WE HAD HAD NO IDEA THAT YOU GUYS WERE GONNA BE SO GOOD TO US DURING THIS BUDGET.

SO THOSE SALARIES HAVE INCREASED AND UM, ABOUT $20,000 IS A DIFFERENCE IN THE INCREASE IN THE SALARY, FRINGE BENEFITS, INSURANCE AND ALL THAT.

AND SO SHE IS SET TO GO IN OCTOBER TO ASK THEM FOR THAT INCREASE.

SO WE MAY NOT EVEN NEED THE ASK, BUT JUST IN CASE TO MAKE THESE SALARIES COMPARABLE WITH WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE SET WITH OUR EMPLOYEES NOW, WANTED THAT TO BE, UM, SHOULD WE COME BACK IN OCTOBER IF THERE, IF WE'RE TOLD NO.

OR COULD THAT MANY BE EARMARKED NOW? WELL THOSE POSITIONS, UH, MATCH WHAT THE GRANT MONEY'S GONNA COME FROM IN JANUARY OR NOT THOSE TYPE POSITIONS, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? NO, THE $250,000 MM-HMM.

BUT YOU, HOPEFULLY BOTH OF Y'ALL WILL GET COME JANUARY.

RIGHT? RIGHT.

THOSE POSITIONS QUALIFY FOR PART OF THAT MONEY.

YES, THEY DO.

SO IF WE SET THAT MONEY ASIDE AND WE HAVE TO SPEND IT, THEN WE CAN GET THAT MONEY BACK FROM THE GRANT MONEY.

I WOULD SAY YES.

? YES, .

BECAUSE SHE, SHE, UH, JUDGE WALLY DID INDICATE THAT ANY SHORTFALL SHE WOULD MAKE UP FROM THAT REAL PROSECUTOR PAY.

UM, BUT JUST IN THE MEANTIME SO THAT THESE POSITIONS CAN GO AHEAD AND START TEN ONE, BUT, UM, IT MAY NOT EVEN BE A NEED BECAUSE SHE IS ALREADY SET TO GO BACK AND ASK THEM FOR THE MONEY AND SO WELL THAT'S OKAY.

I THINK WE JUST SET THAT ASIDE AND WE NEED IT.

WE NEED IT.

WE'LL APPROVE IT AS NEEDED.

AS NEEDED.

AS I, AS I CALLED YOU AND TALKED TO THE AUDITOR, JUST SOMETHING UP IN THE FOREFRONT BEFORE WE GET READY FOR OUR BUDGET.

AND IT'LL COVER INSURANCE FRINGE BENEFITS, LIKE SURE.

ANYONE ELSE? CHAIR? NO , I, I'M JUST BRINGING SOMETHING

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'CAUSE WE HAVE TO SET IT, I REALIZE THAT Y'ALL ALLOWED US TO DO LATERAL TRANSFERS ALL THE WAY TILL THE END OF SEPTEMBER.

WELL, IF WE DO THAT, I'M JUST, I BELIEVE WE'LL HAVE THE MONEY TO MAKE IT UP IF WE HIRE SOME PEOPLE, BUT THERE'S A POSSIBILITY AROUND $50,000 THAT WE COULD BE SHORTFALL.

BUT I THINK WE'D GET IT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

AND PLUS I'VE TALKED TO ALDER AND I THINK ALSO WHAT WE GIVE BACK TO THE GENERAL FUNDS, WE'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE IT UP WITHOUT A PROBLEM, BUT I WANT YOU TO MAKE SURE Y'ALL ARE AWARE OF IT, THAT WE'RE DOING THAT AND IT ENDS AND END OF SEPTEMBER.

SO, BUT IT WILL IMPACT THE NUMBERS A LITTLE BIT, BUT I THINK WE CAN OFFSET IT.

LET THE OFFICER SPEAK IF ANYTHING SHE HAS.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING, SIR.

SO IF YOU CAN GET THE TRANSFERS, WE'RE TRYING, I'M TRYING TO GET 'EM AS FAST I CAN, BUT THAT HELPS THE COUNTY.

I, I WILL TELL YOU, UH, WHAT THE WORD GETTING OUT OF HOW Y'ALL HAVE TREATED THE EMPLOYEES THIS YEAR.

WE'VE GOT QUITE A FEW PEOPLE COMING SOUTH OUR WAY.

SO IT'S A GOOD THING.

SO I JUST WANTED TO THAT'S THE WHOLE PURPOSE.

, THAT'S IT.

SO YEAH, I JUST WANNA BRING IN LIGHT TO YOU FOR YOU.

GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.

THANK YOU CHERYL.

I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THEM.

YES MA'AM.

MORNING.

I KNOW YOU'VE MET ME BEFORE.

JENNY RIVERS, I'M THE GENERAL MANAGER AT GASTONIA SCURRY WATER DISTRICT.

I REPRESENT THE, A LOT OF THE KAUFMAN COUNTY SUDS.

UM, WE ONCE AGAIN WANNA SAY WE'RE FIGHTING THE INFRASTRUCTURE BATTLE.

WE'RE HOPING THAT THE COMMISSIONERS WILL SEE FIT, PUTTING SOME OF THE A R P MONEY THAT'S LEFT, THE 15 MILLION THAT THEY JUST TALKED ABOUT THIS MORNING, UH, BACK INTO THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

CURRENTLY WE ARE FIVE OF THE KAUFMAN COUNTY SUDS ARE, INCLUDING THE CITY OF KAUFMAN, ARE WORKING WITH NORTH TEXAS TO GET ANOTHER WATER SOURCE DOWN HERE.

AND IT'S GONNA BE CLOSE TO $40 MILLION.

THAT'S WHAT OUR FINAL BUDGET'S GONNA BE.

SO IF WE DON'T HAVE HELP FROM THE COUNTY, THAT ALL ROLLS BACK OVER TO THE RATE PAYERS, WHICH WE HATE TO HAVE TO DO.

SO WE, ONCE AGAIN, IF THIS IS BUDGET TIME, UM, ALL OF THE DISTRICTS ARE IN THE SAME SITUATION.

WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH CAPACITY TO SERVE THE GROWTH THAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR COMMUNITIES.

SO WE NEED SOME HELP FROM THE COUNTY TO KICK THINGS IN AND HELP US AT LEAST WITH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE, THAT ARE GONNA CONTRIBUTE FOR A HEALTHIER GROWTH TO OUR COMMUNITY.

WELL, I KNOW MOST OF THE DEVELOPERS ARE PITCHING IN LOTS OF MONEY TO GET WATER THROUGH MESQUITE OUT TO THIS AREA.

AND WE HAVE, WHICH IS A BLESSING.

IT IS TO THE CITY.

AND, AND WE HAVE, UM, PETITIONED SEVERAL DEVELOPERS.

WE HAVE ABOUT, I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR THE DEVELOPER FUNDS FOR, FOR MY DISTRICT.

SO THE, THE WAY THAT THE SECONDARY WATER SOURCE IS COMING DOWN, EACH ENTITY THAT'S INVOLVED IN THIS LITTLE COALITION HAS THEIR OWN TAKE POINT.

SO TO GET IT FROM NORTH TEXAS DOWN TO OUR INDIVIDUAL TAKE POINTS IS GONNA BE ANYWHERE FROM 34 35 TO $40 MILLION.

THEN WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT GOES FROM OUR TAKE POINT DOWN INTO OUR SYSTEMS. SO FOR US, WE HAVE 12,000 FOOT THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH.

UM, THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THE DEVELOPERS ARE KICKING IN, BUT DEVELOPER MONEY IS NOT GONNA FUND WHAT COMES DOWN FROM NORTH TEXAS.

NORTH TEXAS, MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT DOWN INTO THE TAKE POINTS.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE STRUGGLING WITH GETTING THOSE COSTS TAKEN CARE OF.

A LOT OF US HAVE STARTED THE PROCESS OF GETTING LOANS, WHICH AS YOU ALL KNOW, WHEN WE HAVE TO SERVICE THOSE NOTES, UM, THAT ROLLS BACK INTO RATE, PAY RATE PAYER FUNDS AS WELL.

AND THERE'S JUST GOT TO BE SOME OTHER OPTION WITH THE GROWTH THAT GOES, THE WATER DISTRICT SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BEAR THE WHOLE BURDEN.

SO WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO CHARGE IMPACT FEES, UH, IN THE, IN THE COUNTY HERE.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S INCORRECT.

UH, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT'S IN YOUR TARIFF.

WHAT'S IN YOUR RATE ORDER? OUR RATE ORDER SPECIFICALLY CALLS OUT IMPACT FEES.

UM, OTHERS, IT'S AIDS TO CONSTRUCTION OR, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE OTHER TERMINOLOGY, BUT THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT TERMINOLOGIES.

AND IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOUR DISTRICT WAS CREATED.

IF YOU WERE CREATED THROUGH A LEGISLATURE, WHICH WE WERE, THEN YOU CAN HAVE IMPACT FEES.

SO IT KIND OF DEPENDS IF YOU WERE CREATED AUD CAN HAVE A SUB.

I CAN'T SUPPLY, I CAN'T SPEAK TO SOME OF THE OTHER ONES.

I, I APOLOGIZE.

I CAN ONLY SPEAK TO WHAT I KNOW ABOUT OUR SUD MM-HMM.

SO WE WERE CREATED THROUGH LEGISLATURE, WHICH MEANS THAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO CHARGE IMPACT FEES.

IT'S IN OUR TARIFF AND IT'S IN OUR ORIGINAL PAPERWORK.

WHAT ARE YOU CHARGING? UM, JUST FOR THE IMPACT FEE IS 20, $2,400.

BUT THEN THERE, THERE ARE AIDS TO CONSTRUCTION THAT GOES WITH THAT AS WELL.

WELL, YOU SAID SOMETHING I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T, AND THIS ISN'T JUST Y'ALL, I MEAN, IT'S HAPPENING ALL OVER THE COUNTY, RIGHT? I KNOW.

NOW WE, WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO HANDLE WHAT'S COMING TO US.

OKAY? YEP.

IN NO SHAPE OR FORM, SHOULD THOSE OF US THAT LIVE HERE NOW HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT.

HAVE DEVELOPERS WHO COME IN AND, AND AGAIN, I'M SPEAKING TO MY C C N.

THAT NEEDS TO BE THE DEVELOPERS AND THOSE NEW HOMEOWNERS.

WELL, AND THE PROBLEM IS, SO MANY OF THE DEVELOPERS, THEY'RE ALLOWING SO MANY LITTLE TINY DEVELOPMENTS.

LIKE WE

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UM, I CAN SPEAK VAGUELY TO ABEL SPRINGS AND COLLEGE MOUNTAIN, ROSE HILL BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE CLOSE-KNIT GROUP.

BUT WE HAVE THESE DEVELOPERS WHO ARE COMING IN THERE JUST KIND OF INDIVIDUAL GUYS.

AND THEY, THEY BUY A LITTLE LOT, MAYBE 40 ACRES OR 50 ACRES.

THEY DEVELOP IT, THEY PUT IN 10 HOMES AND THEY CONTRIBUTE NOTHING TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY.

SO UNLESS YOU'RE GETTING A BIG DEVELOPER LIKE ULTRA HOMES OR LENNAR HOMES, UM, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE OTHER ONE, BUT UNLESS YOU'RE GETTING A BIG DEVELOPER, THEY'RE, NO ONE'S GONNA CONTRIBUTE.

THESE LITTLE GUYS, ALL THE LITTLE ONES THAT ARE COMING IN, THEY'RE NOT CONTRIBUTING ENOUGH TO MAKE AN IMPACT.

WELL, HOW, HOW DO, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW, IF OUR DEVELOPMENT POLICY IS MONIQUE LEE YEAH.

THAT, UH, THEY SEND US AN APPROVAL FROM THE WATER COMPANY THAT Y'ALL APPROVED THEIR WATER, AMOUNT OF WATER THAT THEY CAN HAVE.

AND SUPPLY.

IF, IF YOU CAN'T SUPPLY IT AND YOU DON'T HAVE THE STRUCTURE TO DO IT, THEN THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.

SO THEY ONLY, THEY, SO WHERE IS THE SHORTFALL HERE? THEY ONLY, WHERE IS, WHERE IS THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE GETTING INTO? ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU CAN'T HAVE THE CAPACITY OR SOMEBODY CAN'T PAY FOR THE LINES BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF $2,400 ISN'T ENOUGH FOR WHATEVER YOU'RE SAYING, BUT IF THEY HAVE TO COME UP TO THE FIRE CORPS AND THEY GOTTA PAY FROM POINT A TO POINT B, WELL THAT'S NOT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THAT AREA'S PROBLEM.

IT'S THE GUY THAT WANTS TO PUT IN THOSE HOUSES.

I A HUNDRED PERCENT AGREE.

AND HERE'S, LET, LET, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND A GREAT POINT THAT, THAT WE'D LIKE TO MAKE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, SO CURRENTLY WE AREN'T, WE AREN'T APPROVING ANY DEVELOPMENTS.

WE'VE JUST STOPPED.

WE, WE JUST DON'T HAVE CAPACITY.

SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CAPACITY, IT'S THE EXISTING LINES THAT ARE COMING FROM NORTH TEXAS AND SERVICING OUR PUMP STATION IN GASTONIA AND IN TOTE.

AND AGAIN, I SPEAK TO MY UD, BUT THE OTHER SUDS ARE REFLECTIVE OF THIS IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

THE PROBLEM IS WE NEED ANOTHER WATER SOURCE.

THOSE LINES, THOSE 24 INCH AND THOSE 12 INCH LINES ARE FULL.

I CAN'T DRAW ANY MORE WATER.

SO I CAN'T GET ANYTHING ELSE DOWN HERE.

AND THESE BIG DEVELOPERS ARE SAYING, NO, WE'RE, WELL, I MEAN, STILL THIS COMES BACK TO ORIGINAL PLANNING.

SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO ADD A HUNDRED HOMES, YOU KNOW THE CAPACITY THAT'S COMING FROM WHEREVER IT IS.

AND YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE GONNA DRAW THAT AT SOME POINT SOMEBODY SHOULD BE CHARGING AND SAYING THERE'S A BUILDING FUND GOING OVER HERE.

'CAUSE THERE'S A NEW, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FORM A NEW LINE.

I MEAN, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IF I'VE GOT A TRUCKING COMPANY IN THAT I GOT A HUNDRED TONS OF FREIGHT AND I CAN ONLY HAUL 51, AM I GOING TO DO THE OTHER 50, I'M GONNA BUY NEW TRUCKS.

OH, AND WE AGREE WITH YOU.

WELL, I MEAN, I'M JUST SAYING THAT THE PROBLEM IS THE DEVELOPERS AREN'T COOPERATING, SUPPOSED TO COME UP WITH THE MONEY.

WE DON'T HAVE $40 MILLION.

THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE.

THEN BUILDING'S GONNA STOP IN OUR, IN OUR CCCA BUILDING HAS STOPPED IF THE BUILDERS CAN'T PAY FOR IT AND THE BUILDING NEEDS TO STOP.

ABSOLUTELY.

SO AT WHAT POINT IS THE COUNTY NOT INTERESTED IN HAVING THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT THE GROWTH? I MEAN, NONE OF US KNEW THE GROWTH THAT'S HAPPENING NOW IS GONNA HAPPEN FIVE YEARS AGO, UH, MAYBE SIX YEARS AGO.

SO, AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT GOES FROM MY PUMP STATION OUT TO THE SYSTEM.

I'M TALKING ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT COMES FROM NORTH TEXAS.

NORTH TEXAS TO THERE COST.

I'M TOO, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THING.

HOW CAN YOU KEEP ADDING TO IT WHEN YOU KNOW THE LINE'S NOT GONNA HOLD IT? WE DON'T.

THAT'S WHY YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE THE SMALL THINGS LIKE SHE GOT HERE, AND AGAIN, I SPEAK TO MY SIDE.

WE DON'T APPROVE ANYTHING.

WE HAVE, WE HAVE NO DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE GONE IN IN THREE YEARS.

ONE OR ONE'S AND TWOS THAT, THAT WE HAVE ONE OR TWO SMALL WHERE WE STILL HAVE A, A MEASURE OF CAPACITY.

THE PROBLEM WE RUN INTO IS P U C TELLS US WE CANNOT DENY ANYBODY WATER.

I CAN'T DENY WATER.

SO THERE, THESE SMALL DEVELOPERS ARE SELLING 'EM OFF ONE AND TWO AND THAT'S HOW THEY'RE GETTING THROUGH THE CRACKS.

BUT A BIG DEVELOPMENT.

I THINK THE PROBLEM IS THEY'RE NOT GONNA PAY FOR WHAT'S COMING FROM NORTH TEXAS DOWN TO OUR SYSTEM.

THEY'LL PAY FOR THE SYSTEM INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT NOT THE BIG TRANSMISSION LINE.

THEY SHOULD I AGREE WITH YOU.

IF YOU CAN'T CARRY THE WATER, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.

YOU SAY, WELL, I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY.

WELL, AND CURRENTLY YOU CAN'T BUILD HERE THE CURRENT.

SO WE, WE GOT ON BOARD AND DID A STUDY, UM, SIMILAR TO WHAT THEY DID WITH YOUR DRAINAGE STUDY.

SO WE USED, UH, ATKINS TO DO THAT.

AND THEY SAID IT'S NORTH TEXAS SAYS FOR THEM TO GET THAT BUILT, IT'S GONNA TAKE SEVEN YEARS BEFORE WE CAN ACTUALLY FLIP A SWITCH.

SO CURRENTLY IN MY SIDE, WE'RE, WE'RE DONE.

I MEAN, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE CAPACITY.

THERE'LL BE NO MORE GROWTH IN SCURRY UNTIL WE GET WATER.

YEAH, YEAH.

WELL, I DON'T, YEAH, I DON'T

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KNOW HOW.

I DON'T, BUT THE ARP FUNDS THE WATER COMPANIES.

I'VE, I'VE KNOWN OTHER WATER COMPANIES.

I KNOW OTHER WATER COMPANIES THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, WE DO DENY YOU WATER.

'CAUSE YOU CAN'T, WE ONLY HAVE, WE ONLY HAVE THIS MANY TAPS AND THAT'S IT.

WE ARE TAPPED OUT.

I, I AGREE.

YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T.

THAT ONE JUST, THAT ONE PERSON THAT BOUGHT A LOT, THEY BOUGHT A 10 A I KNOW SOMEBODY'S IN FIXED, THEY CAN'T HAVE WATER.

BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A TAP.

WELL, BUT, BUT SEE WE'LL BE FINE FROM THE P U C IF WE DO THAT.

N T C Q .

SO WE HAVE P U C T C Q AND EPA A ARE ALL OUR REGULATORY AGENCIES AND ONE OF THEM T C Q SAYS, YOU CAN ONLY GIVE THIS MANY TAPS.

YOU ARE, YOU ARE DONE.

THIS IS HOW MANY TAPS YOU CAN GIVE.

AND P U C SAYS, TOO BAD.

I'M TELLING YOU, IF SOMEBODY WANTS WATER, YOU GOTTA GIVE IT TO 'EM.

AND I HAVE HAD THIS BATTLE OVER AND OVER WITH P U C AND T C Q.

WELL, AN INHERITED PROBLEM BY THE WAY, .

WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU SAID SOMETHING A WHILE AGO TOO THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU WANNA KNOW AT WHAT POINT THE COUNTY IS GONNA SUPPORT OR NOT SUPPORT.

WELL, THE COUNTY OR THE TAXPAYERS CORRECT.

PEOPLE THAT CURRENTLY LIVE HERE.

ME, YOU, EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM.

EVERYBODY THAT'S LISTENING TO US, THAT'S NOT OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.

WE TOOK CARE OF OUR BUSINESS WHEN WE MOVED HERE AND WE DID THINGS WITHIN WHAT WE, WE WE WORKED WITHIN OUR MEANS.

AND I THINK YOUR, YOUR FIGHT NEEDS TO GO TO THE LEGISLATURE TO GET THEM TO GIVE Y'ALL THE AUTHORITY TO BE ABLE TO SAY, NO, WE CAN'T SUPPLY WATER.

WHATEVER MEANS THAT TAKES TO DO IT.

GET WITH YOUR STATE REPS, GET WITH, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER TO TRY AND GET SOMETHING CHANGED THERE.

BECAUSE AT OUR LEVEL, WE'RE TAPPED OUT.

WE DO THAT EVERY YEAR.

WE, WE ACTUALLY, 17 OF US WENT TO DC UM, IN MARCH TO THE RALLY.

AND WE FOUGHT AND FOUGHT AND FOUGHT.

AND WE DID NOT WIN ANYTHING.

WHAT WE WON WAS THE RV PARK .

SO THAT WAS A GOOD THING.

WE WENT FROM ONE TO ONE TO EIGHT TO ONE.

THAT WAS A GOOD THING.

YEAH, THAT'S ALLOWABLE DIFFERENCE.

BUT MY POINT IS TO SAY THERE'S A P R FUNDS THAT WERE DESIGNATED SPECIFICALLY FOR, SPECIFICALLY FOR WATER INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND ALL OF US GO BACK TO HOW COME WE DIDN'T GET INCLUDED IN THAT.

IT WAS DESIGNATED FOR WASTEWATER AND WATER.

IT'S ON THE BILL.

I SAW IT.

I KNOW Y'ALL SAW IT.

SO WE GO BACK TO HOW COME NONE OF US GOT THAT? IF IT WAS DESIGNATED FOR THAT.

WAS IT DESIGNATED OR WAS IT ALLOWABLE? ALLOWABLE.

ALLOWABLE.

THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE.

EXCUSE ME.

SO WELL, WE'LL COME BACK.

IT WAS, WAS ALLOWABLE ALLOWED IT.

HOW COME WE DIDN'T GET ANY ALMOST EVERYTHING THAT YOU COULD IMAGINE.

YEAH, EXACTLY.

THAT WE'VE READ IT OVER AND OVER.

SO I MEAN IT, BUT I'LL ASK AGAIN HOW IT'S NOT ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S LIKE SAYING THAT WE SHOULD SUSTAIN ANYTHING.

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT IT IS.

AND WE DON'T NECESSARILY DO THAT.

IT'S ALSO WAS VERY ALLOWABLE TO REDO OUR WHOLE INFRASTRUCTURE OURSELVES FOR THE COUNTIES THAT ARE FAST GROWING LIKE OURS.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE DID WITH MOST OF IT.

YOU'RE RIGHT.

WE BUILT THE JUSTICE CENTER AND WE BUILT, OKAY, WE'VE SEEN THE BUDGET AND YEAH.

THE JUSTICE CENTER.

WELL, I'M NOT GONNA GET INTO THAT.

IT'S NOT MY PLACE.

BUT, BUT I GO BACK TO, I'M JUST SAYING, WHY WEREN'T WE AND REBUILD OTHER THINGS AND WE'RE STILL DOING IT.

AND I KNOW PAULA HAS COME TO YOU AND SAID, WHY WEREN'T WE INCLUDED IN THIS? SO OTHER THINGS WERE MORE IMPORTANT.

AND THEN, BUT THEN THE WATER DISTRICTS GET TO THE PROBLEM OF NOW WE'RE FACING PROBLEMS WITH THE P U C AND T C Q 'CAUSE WE CAN'T, WE HAVE NO GROWTH.

WELL, I'LL TELL YOU THIS.

WHEN OUR FUNDS FIRST CAME OUT, THERE WAS, NOBODY HAD CONTACTED US FROM ANYBODY ON THE OUTSIDE UNTIL AFTER WE HAD ENDED UP TOLD EVERYBODY COLLEGE ABOUT EVERYBODY WE OBLIGATED THE FUNDS TO BUILDING.

WE DID THAT RIGHT OFF THE BAT AS A COURT.

NOT THAT ALL OF US AGREED, BUT THAT'S WHERE THE MAJORITY RULED THAT ALL THE FUNDING WENT TO BUILDING.

SO ACTUALLY THE POWERS TO BE THAT WERE PUSHING ACTUALLY GOT IT OBLIGATED BEFORE THE PUBLIC EVER CAME AND TALKED TO US ABOUT ANYTHING.

SO WE, TO GO BACK AND, AND THE SAME THING I TOLD EVERYBODY ELSE, ALL THE WATER, WE'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND CHANGE OUR OBLIGATIONS FROM THE BUILDING PROGRAM TO DIVVY OUT THE MONEY.

EVEN TODAY, IF WE DECIDED TO DO THAT, THE MONEY IS STILL OBLIGATED BY COURT TO BE USED FOR THE BUILDING PROGRAM.

AND WE'VE GOT, WHAT, 13 WAS IT 13 ESTATE? WELL, 15 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS WAS JUST, JUST TOLD THAT IT WAS IT 15 AND HALF.

IT WAS STICKING IN THERE AND THAT YOU GUYS COULD USE IT FOR ANYTHING YOU WANTED.

SO I ONCE AGAIN, PITCH FOR INTEREST, INTEREST INTEREST WAS THE $13,000.

WE STILL HAVE A COURTHOUSE OVER HERE THAT'S HISTORICAL SIDE AND EVERYBODY'S MESSING WITH US HOME THAT WE STILL HAVE TO BILL WITH.

WE'RE NOT SAYING IT'S NOT IMPORTANT.

SO THAT'S GONNA NEED TO A BRUNT OF IT.

BUT, BUT WHATEVER WE, IF THERE'S MONEY LEFT OVER STILL, WE HAVE TO UNGATE IT FROM WHAT IT'S ALREADY OBLIGATED FOR AND THEN DIVIV IT OUT.

BUT WE STILL HAVE A BUILDING PROBLEMS WITH A PLACE FOR ELECTIONS, A PLACE FOR FACILITIES AND OUR HISTORIC COURTHOUSE THAT'S GONNA HOUSE NONE OF WHICH CAN HAPPEN WITHOUT WATER.

I MEAN, I KNOW Y'ALL KEEP SAYING YOU GOT THIS BUILDING AND THIS BUILDING AND THIS BUILDING, BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE WATER AND YOU DON'T HAVE TOILETS, YOU CAN'T OPEN THE BUILDING ANYWAYS.

WELL, THOSE ARE .

SO WHY IS WATER NOT MORE IMPORTANT? THEY ALREADY HAVE WATER AND

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WHAT I'M SAYING IS I DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT THE TAXPAYERS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS.

IF THESE BUILDERS ARE COMING, THEY NEED TO PAY FOR IT.

THOSE NEW HOMEOWNERS OR BUSINESSES NEED TO PAY FOR IT.

AND THEY PAY THEIR IMPACT FEES.

BUT APPARENTLY IT'S NOT ENOUGH.

AND IT'S PUTTING Y'ALL IN A BAD POSITION.

AND I MEAN, I, I GET WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM AS FAR AS THE OFFER MONEY GOES, BUT JUST LIKE MIKE SAID, THAT MONEY WAS OBLIGATED WAY IN ADVANCE OF ANYBODY COMING TO US ASKING US FOR MORE MONEY, UH, OR MONEY OUT OF THAT FUNDS.

BUT I, I DON'T THINK YOUR FIGHT'S WITH US.

I JUST DON'T, I I, I THINK YOUR FIGHT IS WITH LEGISLATURE AND WHATEVER IT TAKES TO PUSH THAT IS WHAT IT'S, WHAT'S GONNA HAVE TO GET SOMETHING CHANGED, UH, SO THAT Y'ALL CAN MAKE THIS WORK WITHOUT THE TAXPAYERS HAVING TO FUND IT.

I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THAT, THAT THAT'S EVEN WITHIN THE REALM OF POSSIBILITY THAT THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

SO I, YOU KNOW, WELL, WE, I MEAN, WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A CHOICE AT THIS POINT.

IF, IF THAT'S WHAT IT IS, THEIR, THEIR TAXPAYERS ARE GONNA HAVE TO SERVICE THE, THE DEBT.

IF WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ELSE, THE P U C KEEPS PUSHING ON US THAT SAY YOU HAVE TO, UM, OKAY.

BUT THAT OFFER I UNDERSTAND, BUT THE CAPACITY'S NOT THERE.

I I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT WE GET FINED AND THAT AGAIN, IS A TAXPAYER PROBLEM.

I HATE TO SAY THAT, BUT IT IS IN COURT.

I JUST TAKE THE FINES IN THE COURT AND SAY, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY THE FINE.

AND WE SURE CAN'T SUPPLY THE WATER.

SO HOW'S YOU TELL ME HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT? YOU CAN'T TELL US BECAUSE THAT'S NOT OUR COUNTRY.

I FEEL LIKE I'M BUMPING HEADS EVERYWHERE I GO.

LIKE, P U C WON.

WELL, I GET THAT C IT'S AWFUL.

WE WE'RE TOTALLY UNDERSTANDING IT.

BUT YOU'RE YOUR OWN POLITICAL SUBDIVISION.

YOU KNOW, YOU'RE WELL, I, WE KNOW THE ISSUES.

THERE ARE NO SOLUTIONS TODAY.

WELL I APPRECIATE Y'ALL LISTENING TO ME.

YEAH, CERTAINLY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I WISH THERE WAS MAGIC W I HEARD TOO.

I I, I WISH WE COULD JUST SAY PUFF AND YOU COULD WRITE A CHECK FOR $40 MILLION, BUT WE CAN'T.

ANYONE ELSE? WELL, I THINK IF YOU'VE, UM, ALREADY, UH, WENT THROUGH YOUR LIST, CAN WE BRING THE, UH, DISCUSSION WE HAD EARLIER IN THE COURT ABOUT, UH, HELPING THE CITY OF KAUFMAN WITH THEIR YEAH.

UH, PART AND ANNABELLE, EVERYBODY HAVE A CHANCE TO SEE YOU HAVE A PICTURE OF THAT ON YOUR COMPUTER? YOU DON'T HAVE A PICTURE? I'VE GOT IT RIGHT HERE.

YOU GOT IT? I DID.

I PULLED IT UP.

I MEAN, SO, UH, JEFF OR MIKE, IT'S GOT ALL THAT STUFF THERE.

AND THEN IT'S ALSO GOT, UH, LET ME FIND THAT OTHER PART OF IT HERE.

JUST THAT HERE'S THE MAP.

THE, THE, THE PART THAT WE DON'T EVEN NEED $40 MILLION FOR THIS .

THAT'S GOOD.

THAT'S A GOOD THING.

LEFTOVER BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET, BUT YOU NEED, BUT YOU NEED WATER, SO YOU NEED TO, YEAH.

YOU NEED WATER.

THEY GOT A LAKE.

THEY GOT PLENTY, PLENTY WATER.

SO I THINK YOU NEED TO PUT UP AT LEAST 10 MILLION TO GET THE WATERLINE THERE AND YOU CAN HELP HER OUT.

IN THIS, UH, YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT LIKE A D A TYPE AREA WHERE KIDS WITH SPECIAL NEEDS HAVE A SPECIAL AREA.

WELL, IT'S NOT A SPECIAL AREA.

THE IT'S ALL OPEN.

YOU SAID IT'S ALL OPEN.

THEY'RE ALL GOING TO BE IN THE SAME AREA TOGETHER.

THE PLAYGROUND COMPONENT OF THE PARK'S ALL LOOKING AT IS ALL INCLUSIVE.

SO A CHILD WITH SEE WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT CAN BE SWINGING RIGHT NEXT TO THE CHILD.

IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.

THIS IS THE CLOSEST PART.

SO THEY CAN INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER AND NOT FEEL ANY DIFFERENT.

IT MAKES THEM ALL FEEL, FEEL LIKE THEY'RE ALL THE SAME.

WELL, YOU KNOW, I, I'M GETTING ALL THIS PICTURE.

I, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THIS, BUT, AND OF COURSE I RAN A, ME AND MY WIFE AND FRIEND, WE RAN A SPECIAL NEEDS BASEBALL THING FOR 20 YEARS.

WE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN HERE, WE'VE DONE THAT.

AND THAT'S THE INCLUSIVE PART.

THERE, I GET, THERE'S NOT A INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND IN FORNEY.

THE PROBLEM WHERE I GET HUNG UP IS THAT I, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A CITY THAT HAS MORE PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE CITY THAN THEY DO INSIDE THE CITY.

AND IF THE COUNTY STARTS FUNDING THE PARK, I'M GOING TO BE, WE'RE GONNA BE FUNDING ONE IN 40.

I'M GOING, YOU KNOW, IT IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE LIBRARIES.

IT'S LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE.

WE HAVE TO BE REALLY CAREFUL IN WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.

AND, YOU KNOW, AT THE MOMENT, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GONNA GET IN THE PARK BUSINESS.

THAT'S, THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.

I, I, LISTEN, I'M, I, YOU DON'T KNOW.

THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING CLOSE TO ME, BUT I, I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW I CAN DO THAT.

I JUST MYSELF, I, I'M JUST, JUST TALKING ABOUT THAT TO, JUST TO REITERATE THE, THE POINTS I WAS TRYING TO MAKE EARLIER ABOUT THIS BEING A REGIONAL PARK, UH,

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SO WE WOULD ANTICIPATE CERTAINLY THAT FORNEY RESIDENCE AND MANY OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS WOULD UTILIZE THIS PARK.

I'LL TELL IF IT WERE JUST A TYPICAL I TYPICAL PARK EXPANSION, WE PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE ASKING THAT.

I, I CAN, I CAN TELL YOU WHO MIGHT LOOK AT IT.

'CAUSE HE WAS GONNA GIVE US MONEY WHILE PARK.

I HAD CONTACT DAN PATRICK, LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR, IF YOU'RE LISTENING MM-HMM.

I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH BECAUSE HE, HE, HE, HE HAS AN ORGANIZATION THAT TAKES CARE OF JUST WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I'M SERIOUS.

I, I BELIEVE I'LL CHECK INTO THAT.

AND HE, AND IT'S RUNNING HOUSTON, I GUESS IT'S, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, BUT IT, UH, HE'S BIG INTO IT AND HE HAS GRANTS.

HE HAS MORE GRANTS.

I'M JUST TRYING TO GIVE YOU A, A GOOD PLACE TO GO.

AND HE, I THINK, UH, I WAS TRYING TO REMEMBER, UM, YEAH, IT'S DAN, IT'S A FOUNDATION FOR A D A PARKS.

I MEAN THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

I MEAN, AND I TALKED TO HIM AND HE OFFERED US A GRANT.

THE PROBLEM WAS I COULDN'T GET THE CITY OF FORNEY TO GET ON WITH THE PROGRAM TO ALLOW US TO HAVE THE LAND TO DO THE THING.

IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD DO AS A COUNTY RECOMMEND OR SUPPORT HIS ORGANIZATION FUNDING GRANT MONEY FOR THE PARK HERE? WELL, I THINK, I THINK WE COULD SURE.

ADD TO A LETTER TO SEND TO HIM AND ASK FOR MAYBE THE REST OF THE MONEY YOU NEED.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO FIND A SOLUTION FOR YOU WITHOUT GETTING THE COUNTY INTO THE PARK BUSINESS BECAUSE THE MINUTE YOU KNOW IT, AND I KNOW IT, IF WE GRANT YOU MONEY FOR THE PARK, THEN EVERYBODY ELSE IS GONNA WANT MONEY FOR THE PARKS AND WE'RE NOT IN CITY PARK BUSINESS.

I MEAN, I, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT TRYING TO BE RUDE OR NASTY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

'CAUSE I, I REALLY THINK THIS IS A WONDERFUL THING.

WELL, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T, I REALIZE EXACTLY WHAT SOME OF THE FEARS ARE ABOUT OPENING UP PANDORA'S BOX, BUT I THINK THAT WE CAN STILL DO SOMETHING TO HELP, MAYBE NOT AN EXORBITANT AMOUNT OF MONEY.

AND IT MIGHT BE IN THEIR EYES, MAYBE JUST A TOKEN.

BUT I MEAN, IF WE DID SOMETHING LIKE $5,000 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT JUST FOR THE PROJECT, IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE HELPING FUND A PARK, BUT WE ARE MAKING SOME TYPE OF, UH, GESTURE TO HELP SOMEWHAT.

AND YOU KNOW, THE, THE MONEY THEY HAVE LEFT TO GET, I DON'T THINK THEY CAME HERE ASKING FOR ALL OF IT AT ONCE, BUT IF WE CAN BE LIKE ALL THE OTHER PRIVATE DONORS AROUND THE COUNTY THAT ARE PITCHING IN A THOUSAND, 2000 OR WHATEVER, THEN WE CAN DO SOMETHING.

ANY, ANY AMOUNT WOULD CERTAINLY BE APPRECIATED.

UH, I THINK OUR SPONSORSHIP LEVELS START AT 50,000 DOWN TO TWO OR 2,500 DOWN TO, UM, DOWN TO FIVE.

I THINK IT WAS LIKE 5, 15, 20 OR 25 AND THEN 50.

AND WE'VE HAD CONTRIBU AT ALL OF THOSE LEVELS.

I THINK THAT WE HAVE AN ARGUMENT, WE DIDN'T FUND A PARK WITH $5,000, NOR CAN, YOU KNOW, WE GIVE $10,000 TO A WATER, THE WATER SYSTEMS OF ARPA MONEY AND MAKE A DENT IN THE 40 MILLION THAT YOU NEED.

YOU KNOW? I DON'T THINK SO.

I MEAN IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, BUT I JUST THINK AS, AS A COUNTY AND TAXPAYERS, I DON'T THINK THEY'D HAVE A PROBLEM WITH US HELPING TRY TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S SPECIAL IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAT WE DON'T HAVE IN KAUFFMAN COUNTY.

AND, AND, AND I, AND BELIEVE ME, I HONOR Y'ALL'S OPINIONS.

YOU KNOW, I REALLY DO.

YOU KNOW, BUT I JUST THINK THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING SMALL, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW HE'LL GIVE MONEY.

WELL, I MEAN, IF WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN, I'M, I'M 110% BEHIND WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S MY PITCH.

AND YOU KNOW, I, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

WE AT LEAST GIVE $5,000 AND EVER HOW IT COMES OUT.

IT COMES OUT AND WELL, WOULD THERE, I MEAN, WOULD THERE BE ANY, UH, ISSUE WITH US MAYBE HOLDING OFF ON THAT UNTIL WE CAN FIND OUT ABOUT THIS THING WITH DAN PATRICK? I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT MINUTE, WHAT'S YOUR CONSTRUCTION START DATE? WHAT ARE YOUR, WHAT'S YOUR JUNE, JUNE OF NEXT YEAR.

AND I DO KNOW YOU, YOU HAVE A COUPLE CONTACTS, PROBABLY KNOW HIM PRETTY WELL, NOT SELL 'EM THERE.

WHO? BUT I MEAN REALLY, I, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD START TO REACH OUT TO.

THE STREET EFFORT OF ONE-ON-ONE ASK.

WHAT ELSE HAVE Y'ALL DONE TO GET THIS OUT THERE TO FOLKS FOR THESE SPONSORSHIPS? I MEAN, HAVE Y'ALL, IT'S BEEN A, A PRIMARILY A BEAT

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UM, I MEAN THERE'S BEEN SOME SOCIAL MEDIA PUSH, UH, UP UNTIL RECENTLY THIS WAS ONLY KIND OF, WE ONLY APPROACHED, YOU KNOW, LOCAL BUSINESSES.

IT'S RECENTLY BEEN OPENED UP TO INDIVIDUALS AND WE'VE GIVEN THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE IT DEDUCTED FROM THEIR, UH, WATER BILL EACH MONTH AS WELL.

I DON'T HAVE ANY DOUBT.

WE'LL, WE WILL GET TO OUR GOAL AND, AND WE'LL GET TO THE FINISH LINE ON THE PROJECT.

WE WOULD, I THINK SO JUST APPRECIATE ANY, ANYTHING THE COUNTY WANTED TO HELP PARTICIPATE WITH.

WE NEED MORE DISCUSS.

I DISCUSS JUST TRYING DISCUSS TO KEEP UP AMONGST OURSELVES.

AND, UH, I THINK WE CAN HELP IN SOME, SOME FORM OR FASHION THAT WILL HELP THE PROJECT NEEDS TO BE A PARTICIPANT.

SOUNDS GOOD.

IN THE MEANTIME, IF ANY OF Y'ALL HAVE QUESTIONS DIDN'T COME WELL FROM THE CITY, JUST TO SEND HIS ORGANIZATION A LETTER, LET US DO SOME, Y'ALL DO SOME RESEARCH ON IT.

WE'RE GOING TO DO IT.

AND IF WE NEED, AND WE WILL SEND A LETTER SUPPORT AND RUN TRAPS THROUGH WHO WE KNOW.

ALSO, ALRIGHT.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS IN THE MEANTIME, Y'ALL, YOU KNOW HOW TO GET IN TOUCH WITH US.

THANK YOU JUDGE.

YOU BET.

ANYONE ELSE? THEN I NEED A

[16. Adjourn Meeting]

MOTION TO ADJOURN.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.

STILL HAVE A SECOND? NO, A SECOND.

COMMISSIONER BARR MAKES A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AND SAY AYE.

A AYE.