Sep 12, 2023 Commissioners Court

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING THIS MORNING? OKAY.

WE'RE GOING GO THROUGH THE AGENDA AND MAKE NOTE THAT WE'RE GOING TO SWITCH ITEMS AT THE BOTTOM.

UH, WE'RE GONNA LET THE AUDITOR GO BEFORE WE DISCUSS THE COURTHOUSE PLANS IN CASE SHE NEEDS TO LEAVE OR WANTS TO, WELL, YOU NEED TO HANG AROUND FOR YOUR PLANS ANYWAY.

SO, OKAY.

ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.

[1. ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.]

IF NOT, LET'S GO TO

[2. CONSENT AGENDA]

THE CONSENT AGENDA.

WE HAVE FOUR ITEMS. CONSIDER ACCEPTING THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETINGS FOR SEPTEMBER 5TH, 2023, AND B, CONSIDER PROVING FIBER OPTIC INSTALLATION BY OPA INFRA ALONG CANYON ROADS 360 3 16 C THREE 16, A THREE 16 B, ED HARDING LANE, SLEEPY HOLLOW DRIVE, AND LAZY CIRCLE, AND CONSIDER PROVING THE STAR OF TRANSIT RIDERSHIP REPORTS FOR AUGUST OF 23.

AND THEN D MIKE WILL GIVE A LITTLE EXPLANATION ON THIS ONE.

UH, CONSIDER INCREASING THE COUPON FEED OF $10 FOR THE KAMAN COUNTY TRASH DISPOSABLE AND RECYCLING CENTER.

WELL, YOU KNOW, UM, I GUESS WE'VE BEEN TALKING FOR THREE YEARS NOW, FOUR YEARS ABOUT, UH, GOING UP ON THE COUPONS.

UM, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT EVEN, EVEN, THIS WILL NOT MAKE US COME BACK TO BREAKING EVEN WITH WHAT WE DO, PROVIDING A SERVICE FOR THE CITIZENS OF KAUFMAN COUNTY, BUT IT WILL HELP US RECOUP SOME OF OUR COSTS THAT WE PUT OUT FOR THE, UH, AT THE, UH, UH, THE KAUFMAN.

IT'S NOT A DUMP GROUND, IT'S CONVENIENCE STATION.

THERE WE GO.

YOU GET IN TROUBLE FOR CALLING DUMP GROUND, THE CONVENIENCE STATION.

SO IT'S JUST HELPING US KIND OF RECOUP SOME OF OUR MONEY AND THEN THE CITY GO UP TO $10.

ALSO, THE CITY IS GOING UP TO $10 ALSO, SO WE NEED TO MATCH STATE THEM.

AND IT'S, AND THEN, UH, THEY'RE, UM, WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION FOR PROBABLY THREE YEARS ALSO ABOUT GOING TO, UH, WHERE YOU SCAN YOUR CREDIT CARDS OR DEBIT CARDS OR WHATEVER, AND IT WILL HELP KEEP THE NUMBERS CITY CITIZENS AND COUNTY CITIZENS.

SO WHEN WE SPLIT THE COST OF RUNNING THE CONVENIENCE STATION, THEN UH, BE EASIER BOOKKEEPING.

BE EASIER IN BOOKKEEPING.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, UH, AS FAR AS THE PHYSICAL PLANT, WE PROVIDE THE MANPOWER THAT TAKE, THAT TAKES CARE OF THE PEOPLE COMING IN AND THE CITY MAINTAINS THE SITE AND THEN THEY'RE, THEY HAVE A CONTRACTOR FOR HAULING OFF THE TRASH.

SO A THIRD PARTY'S DOING THAT.

AND THEN WE USE THE CITY CONTRACT FOR OUR COST FOR THAT.

SO, ALRIGHT.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION QUESTIONS? HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH WERE WE RAISING THE FEE FROM? FROM SEVEN 50 TO 10.

TWO 50 CENTS.

SO NOT MUCH.

NO, IT PROBABLY COST US 30 OR 40 THE TICKET AT LEAST.

SO ANYWAY.

OKAY, SO MOTION TO ACCEPT THE SENATE AGENDA.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

MR. PHILLIPS MAKES THE MOTION.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND.

MR. TRUMP MAKES SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK

[3. Shannon Roden; Discuss/Consider approving the preliminary plat for Maya Estates located on Fogleman Road in Precinct 4.]

YOU.

NUMBER THREE, MS. SHANNON, YOU'RE NEXT.

DISCUSS, CONSIDER PROVING THE PRELIMINARY PLAN FOR MAYA ESTATES LOCATED ON FOGLEMAN ROAD IN PRECINCT FOUR.

GOOD MORNING.

MORNING.

FRONTAGE TO THE COUNTY ROADS.

SO MAYA STATES IS APPROXIMATELY 30 POINT 80 ACRES AND THE OWNER WANTS TO SPLIT THAT INTO 16 LOTS, RANGING FROM 1.64 TO 2.59 ACRES EACH.

ALL OF THE LOTS WILL HAVE

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SO THERE'S NO ROADS BEING BUILT.

UH, THIS IS GOING THROUGH THE PRELIMINARY PLAT PROCESS BECAUSE THERE ARE WATER CONSTRUCTION LINES DUE TO IMPROVE THE DRAINAGE.

UH, SO THAT'S ALL BEEN APPROVED.

THE PRELIMINARY PLANS HAVE BEEN APPROVED AND WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR THE COURT'S APPROVAL FOR THAT PRELIMINARY PLA TODAY.

ANY QUESTIONS? NO, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

MR. MOORE MAKES THE MOTION.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? NO, SECOND.

MR. BARB MAKES A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

[4. Judge Allen/Monique Hunter; Discuss/Consider approving the interlocal agreement between Kaufman County and North Central Texas Emergency Communications District (NCT9-1-1) for local addressing and GIS services.]

UP NUMBER FOUR, DISCUSS.

CONSIDER APPRO THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN KAUFMAN COUNTY AND OUR CENTRAL TEXAS EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS DISTRICT NC NINE DASH ONE ONE FOR LOCAL ADDRESSING AND G I S SERVICES.

YES, MA'AM.

THIS IS OUR ANNUAL CONTRACT WITH THEM.

UM, EACH YEAR WE RENEW IT.

WE'RE PART OF THE N C T 9 1 1 REGION.

UM, BECAUSE OF THAT, THEY DO OUR QUALITY CHECKS TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANY ERRORS OR CRITICAL ERRORS.

UM, THEY, UM, ALSO SUBSIDIZE, UM, OUR G I S SALARY IF WE DON'T HAVE ERRORS UP TO 30,000 FOR THE YEAR.

UM, AND SO THIS IS JUST THEIR ANNUAL CONTRACT THAT WE GO THROUGH EVERY YEAR WITH THEM TO KEEP, CONTINUE THAT.

ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? NO.

VINCENT'S NOT ING MOTION.

IT, IT'S A GOOD THING.

YEAH, IT IS.

WE'RE ON THE BOARD OVER.

SO I'LL MAKE MOTION.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS MAKES THE MOTION.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

COMMISSIONER MOORE MAKES A SECOND.

FIVE IS COMMISSIONER BARBER.

[5. Commissioner Barber; Discuss the 2019 Kaufman County Bond Fund allocation.]

DISCUSS THE 2019 KAKA COUNTY BOND FUND ALLOCATION.

YES, SIR.

YEAH, I WAS, UH, CONTACTED BY, UH, UH, MAYOR TERRELL, UH, RICK CARONA AND THE, UH, CITY MANAGER MIKE SIMS A WHILE BACK.

UH, THEY'VE HAD SOME PROJECTS THAT THEY HAD SCHEDULED, UH, WITH THE BOND MONEY THAT THEY ACTUALLY NEED TO, UH, CHANGE THEIR SCHEDULE.

SO THEY'RE WANTING TO MOVE SOME PROJECTS UP THE LIST.

AND SO THEY WERE JUST ASKING US IF WE WOULD APPROVE THEM DOING THAT.

SO BASICALLY THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT NEEDING ANY MORE MONEY OR ANYTHING.

IT'S THE SAME MONEY.

THEY'RE JUST REALLOCATING IT TO DIFFERENT, UH, PROJECTS FOR RIGHT NOW.

AND ONE OF THOSE BEING THE, UH, QUIET ZONES THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THE RAILROAD THERE IN TERRELL, UH, THE RAILROAD ACTUALLY CONTACTED 'EM AND SAID, HEY, WE'RE READY TO GO WHEN Y'ALL ARE.

SO THEY MOVED THAT PROJECT UP THE LIST AND THEY JUST NEED TO REALLOCATE THOSE FUNDS TO DO THAT.

AND THAT'S ALL THEY'RE ASKING TO DO.

SO.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE.

THEY'VE ALREADY APPROVED IT THROUGH THEIR CITY COUNCIL, SO I MAKE A MOTION WE APPROVE TO ALLOW THEM TO DO ALL THAT.

THIS IS JUST, IT'S JUST DISCUSS, DISCUSS.

OH, IS IT? I'M SORRY.

'CAUSE ORIGINALLY I WAS JUST GONNA HAVE THIS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

I DON'T KNOW HOW IT GOT WHERE IT IS, BUT, UH, BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE CALL FOR NEXT CORRECTION.

SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO SEND OUT, UH, SOME INFORMATION TO EVERYBODY.

I FOUND OUT THIS MORNING I WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT GOT IT, , SO I'LL MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY GETS THIS, BUT IT, IT JUST DETAILS WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

UH, SO WE'LL DO THAT BEFORE NEXT WEEK.

SIX, SHERIFF BEAVER IS PRESENTING, ACCEPT THE KAMAN COUNTY SHERIFF'S REPORT FOR JUNE AND JULY OF 23.

GOOD DEAL.

CAN I ASK A QUESTION? IS JOHN FEL INVOLVED IN THIS? YES.

UH, HE WAS, I WAS ACTUALLY COPIED ON AN EMAIL THAT WAS SENT TO HIM.

I, HE DIDN'T REPLY BACK TO IT.

UH, BUT, UH, HE'S BEEN NOTIFIED ABOUT IT, SO YEAH.

IT IS A BROKEN ANGLE.

HE MIGHT NOT BE.

YEAH, I KNOW, I KNOW.

HE'S, HE'S A LITTLE SLOW AT GETTING THE THINGS RIGHT THERE.

IF YOU'RE GONNA DO THAT.

I THINK WE NEED A FUNDING MEMO FROM HIM.

I'LL FOLLOW UP ON THAT AND SEE WHAT THE, OKAY.

[6. Sheriff Beavers; Present/Accept the Kaufman County Sheriff's Office reports for June and July 2023.]

GOOD MORNING.

SHORTER AGAIN.

GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.

HOW ARE Y'ALL THIS MORNING? GOOD.

UH, Y'ALL HAVE THE, UH, NUMBERS IN FRONT OF YOU.

A COUPLE THINGS I WANNA BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION.

UH, IF YOU LOOK BACK IN JUNE, WE HAD, UH, 13 DEPUTY OPENINGS, 14 DETENTION OPENINGS, AND NINE COMMUNICATIONS DISPATCH OPENINGS.

AND THEN IN JULY WE BROUGHT THAT DOWN TO 10 DEPUTIES, EIGHT DETENTION, AND SIX COMMUNICATION.

AND I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, WE'RE ALREADY, FOR THE NEXT NUMBERS FOR THE NEXT TWO MONTHS IS GONNA BE, I THINK WE ONLY HAVE THREE DEPUTY OPENINGS RIGHT NOW.

AND THREE DISPATCH OPENINGS.

AND I WANNA SAY 10 OR 11 JAILER OPENING.

SO WHAT Y'ALL DID FOR US, GIVING US THIS RAISE HAS HELPED US TREMENDOUSLY.

OUR, UH, TRAINING OFFICERS AND RECRUITMENT OFFICERS HAVE BEEN OUT AND WE HAVE GOT SOME GREAT PEOPLE THAT HAS CAME IN AND WE'RE FILLING UP.

AND THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH FOR WHAT Y'ALL DID FOR US TO HELP US GET THAT AWAY.

WELL, THE THING ABOUT IT IS, IT'S GOOD FOR OUR CITIZENS.

YES IT IS GREAT FOR OUR CITIZENS.

FOR OUR CITIZENS BECAUSE NOW WE'RE FILLING UP AND WE'VE GOT SO MANY DEPUTIES OUT ON THE STREETS, BOOTS ON THE GROUND, AND IT SHOWS IN OUR NUMBERS.

UH, IF YOU LOOK ON OUR RECOVERED PROPERTY, UH, TO DATE RIGHT NOW, WE'RE RIGHT JUST BELOW $3 MILLION IN RECOVERED STOLEN ASSETS.

SO THAT'S

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A LOT.

OUR, THAT'S A LOT, A LOT.

UH, OUR INVESTIGATORS HAVE BEEN OUT DOING A GREAT JOB.

OUR PATROL DEPUTIES HAS BEEN TAKING NUMEROUS CALLS.

UH, WE'VE, UH, IF YOU LOOK ON OUR WARRANTS, WE'VE ALSO BROUGHT OUR WARRANTS DOWN TO DATE.

WE HAVE, UH, RECEIVED 3,174 WARRANTS.

WE HAVE EITHER SERVED OR RECALLED 12,000 WARRANTS.

SO WE'RE BRINGING OUR WARRANTS NOW.

NOW, UH, EVERYTHING'S GOING GREAT.

OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, OUR PROBLEM THAT WE'RE HAVING WITH THE ANIMAL CONTROL WITH OUR DOG SITUATION, WE'VE BEEN GETTING DOGS LEFT AND RIGHT.

UH, BUT OUR ANIMAL CENTER IS FULL.

BUT IF YOU LOOK ON OUR YEAR TO DATE RIGHT NOW, WE'RE AT 444 DOGS WE PICKED UP.

SO THEY'VE BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB.

BUT ARE YOU GETTING VERY MANY VICIOUS DOGS? WE'RE GETTING A FEW, UH, ON OUR DOG BATS, YOU CAN SEE, UH, TOTAL ANIMAL BATS FOR THE YEAR.

WE'VE HAD 36 ANIMAL BATS FOR THE YEAR.

AND A LOT OF THOSE ARE OWNER DOGS THAT HAVE BIT THEM IF, IF THEY'RE IN A FIGHT OR FIGHTING OVER FOOD.

I SEE.

OR SOMETHING.

UH, WE'VE HAD A FEW CHILDREN THAT'S BEEN BIT FROM FAMILY OWNED DOGS THAT PULLED THEIR EAR OR SOMETHING AND, AND GOT BIT, BUT NOT A WHOLE LOT OF VICIOUS DOGS OUT THERE THAT WE'VE TAKEN CALLS ON.

THAT'S GOOD.

EXCEPT FOR JUST ANIMAL OR OWNER OWNED.

SO HOW DO YOU ACTUALLY GET NOTIFIED WHEN THE OWNER GETS BIT HIMSELF WITH HIS OWN DOG? DOES HE CALL YOU? THEY'RE REQUIRED BY LAW TO CONTACT US TO MAKE A REPORT FOR A DOG BACK.

SO THEY WENT TO THE DOCTOR? NO, NOT NECESSARILY.

OH.

THAT YOU'RE REQUIRED BY LAW IF YOU'RE BIT BY AN ANIMAL TO CONTACT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

SO WE CAN TAKE A REPORT ON IT SO WE CAN TRACK RABIES.

SINCE WE ARE NOW BACK TO THE DIDN'T KNOW THAT RABIES CONTROL AUTHORITY DIDN'T OKAY.

I DIDN'T KNOW THAT YOU WERE REQUIRED TO.

DO YOU START REPORTING THAT WHEN HE TALKING ABOUT YOU? NO.

WELL, I THINK MY DOG WOULD BE MORE THAN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S CHIHUAHUA.

YOU KNOW, HE BITES ME ALL THE TIME.

, I GUESS THE FUNNIEST ONE.

I CAN, I KNOW IT.

REMEMBER NOT TOO LONG AGO SOMEBODY GOT BIT BY THEIR OWN COW AND CALL US TO TAKE A REPORT FOR A COW BITE.

BUT COW, THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO REPORT THAT .

I KNOW THAT.

YOU KNOW, IT'S PROBABLY UGLY NO GRASS.

THAT'S RIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS I CAN ANSWER FOR Y'ALL? YEAH, I GOT ONE.

UM, ON THESE, THE, THE NEW DEPUTIES ARE GETTING IN.

ARE THEY LIKE NEW RECRUITS OR THEY HAVE EXPERIENCE? WE HAVE SEVERAL WITH THE EXPERIENCE AND NEW RECRUITS ALSO, OF COURSE, OUR UH, JAILER TO DEPUTY PROGRAM IS WORKING GREAT.

WE JUST HAD TWO MORE COME OUT OF ACADEMY THAT THEY'RE GOING THROUGH OUR MINI ACADE THREE WEEK MINI ACADEMY NOW.

AND THEN THEY'LL BE OUT ON THE STREET FOR F T O.

AND THEN WE GOT TWO MORE READY TO GO TO ACADEMY AS SOON AS IT STARTS.

THAT'S GOOD.

THAT IS GOOD.

BUT WE HAD ONE GUY THAT HAD 30 SOMETHING YEARS EXPERIENCE.

WOW.

HE WASN'T READY.

HE THOUGHT HE WAS READY TO RETIRE AND HE WASN'T.

SO HE WANTED TO COME TO WORK FOR US AND WE HAD A TRANSPORT OPEN AND YEAH.

HE WANTED TO DO TRANSPORT.

SO THAT'S GOOD.

WE, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF EXPERIENCE AND WE ALSO GOT A LOT OF NEW RECRUITS, SO.

WELL IT'S WORKING.

IT IS WORKING.

THAT'S WHAT OUR INTENTIONS WORK FOR IT TO WORK.

OKAY, SO I NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE REPORT.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

MR. BARBER MAKES A MOTION.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

MR. PHILLIPS MADE A SECOND.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

NUMBER

[7. Judge Allen; Discuss/Consider approving the FY2024 SAVNS Grant contract.]

SEVEN, DISCUSS.

CONSIDER APPROV THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 SAVINGS GRANT CONTRACT.

AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS EVERY YEAR.

IT'S JUST A RENEWAL.

UH, IT'S ABOUT THE STATEWIDE AUTOMATED VICTIMS NOTIFICATION SERVICE GRANT PROGRAM TO ASSIST TEXAS COUNTIES OTHER ENTITIES IN MAINTAINING STATEWIDE SYSTEM PROVIDE RELEVANT INFORMATION ON PEOPLE'S BEEN RELEASED.

SO JUST AN ANNUAL THING WE DO.

SO I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

UM, I HAVE A SECOND.

I'LL DO IT.

, YOU'LL DO WHAT? MAKE THE MOTION FOR YOU.

NOW YOU LOOK AND HE GAVE ME A SECOND.

ALRIGHT, MR. BARR PHILLIPS MADE THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

MR. I'LL SECOND MORE.

ALL RIGHT.

MOTION CARRIED.

ALRIGHT, WE'RE GONNA JUMP DOWN TO

[9. Auditor; Discuss/Consider line-item and budget transfers/corrections.]

NUMBER NINE.

LET MISS AUDITOR GO FOR HER TWO ITEMS. FIRST ONE IS, IS, UH, CONSIDER LINE ITEM AND BUDGET TRANSFERS.

YES MA'AM.

UM, YES.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE? THEY WERE EMAILED TO YOU LAST WEEK FOR REVIEW.

I DON'T, I DON'T EITHER.

YOU MADE NO QUESTIONS.

CAN I ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL? I NEED A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

MR. HUNT MAKES A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

MR. PHILLIPS MAKES A SECOND.

AS PROVIDED BY THE COUNTY AUDITOR.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES NUMBER,

[10. Auditor; Discuss/Consider claims for payment and/or Financial Information as provided by the County Auditor.]

UH, 10 10.

DISCUSS.

CONSIDER CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT OR FINANCIAL INFORMATION

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YES MA'AM.

I GOT A FEW ITEMS. SO HOLD ON.

YOUR CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT ARE $728,835 AND 37 CENTS.

AND UM, 319,000 WAS YOUR 2019 ROAD BOND.

UH, ROAD MATERIALS AND CULVERTS TOOK ABOUT 104,000.

UM, INVESTIGATIVE SUPPORT, UH, WAS ABOUT 30,000.

AND THEN VARIOUS OTHERS, SMALL ACCOUNTS AND AMOUNTS.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BILLS? NOPE.

IF NOT, I NEED I MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

MR. PHELPS MAKES THE MOTION.

I HAVE A SECOND.

UH, SECOND.

MR. BARBARA MAKES SECOND.

MOTION CARRIES.

CAN I FINISH NOW? YES MA'AM.

IF YOU WILL TAKE THE BOTTOM ONE WITH YOUR NAME ON IT.

UM, THIS IS YOUR, UH, ROAD BOND, I MEAN, SORRY.

YOUR ROAD AND BRIDGE DEPARTMENTS BUDGETS.

YOUR FIRST SHEETS ARE GONNA BE YOUR REVENUES AND THE SECOND SHEETS WILL BE YOUR EXPENSES.

THERE'S NOT ONE FOR YOU JUDGE.

'CAUSE YOU'RE NOT ROAD AND BRIDGE.

THANK YOU .

OKAY, I'M LOOKING FOR IT.

THIS IS THE GENERAL FUND TAKE.

YOU WANT TO PASS IT DOWN.

YOUR FIRST 10 PAGES ARE REVENUES.

THE OTHER 43 PAGES ARE EXPENSES AND YOU'RE SITTING IN THE GENERAL FUND WITH $61 MILLION COLLECTED AND 60 MILLION SPENT.

SO WE'RE KIND OF NECK AND NECK, BUT WE STILL HAVE REVENUES THAT'LL BE IN BY THE QUARTERS.

SO, UH, IT LOOKS PRETTY GOOD THAT WE'LL STAY.

WE'RE PRETTY GOOD.

WE'RE NOT GONNA GO OVER BUDGET AND SHARE WITH THEM ABOUT THE CHECK WE GOT YESTERDAY, DAY BEFORE YESTERDAY, SIR.

THE $183,000 CHECK WE RECEIVED.

THAT'S NOT ALL THE REVENUE.

IF THIS IS MOSTLY AS OF AUGUST.

BUT IT'S GIVING YOU THE FIRST WEEK OF SEPTEMBER REVENUES AND WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF REVENUES TO COME IN.

'CAUSE SOMETIMES WE DON'T GET THOSE TILL OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER BECAUSE THEY'RE QUARTERLY COMING FROM THE STATE.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

BUT, UM, JUDGE ALLEN BROUGHT US A CHECK OF THE UNCLAIMED CAPITAL YESTERDAY AND SO THAT HELPS TOO.

THAT'S NOT POSTED YET BECAUSE IT'S WAS JUST BEING DONE.

IT'S BEEN DONE, YES.

THAT'S JUST FOR YOUR REVIEW TO LOOK AT.

AND THEN I WANTED YOU TO HAVE SOME OTHER REPORTS.

, I THINK THERE'S FIVE THERE.

THIS IS ON YOUR, UH, ARPA MONIES SHOWS YOU WHAT WE HAVE SPENT AND WHAT WE HAVE REMAINING IN THE BUDGET.

MAKE SURE THERE'S FIVE THERE, TOMMY.

THEY ALWAYS GIVE ME EXTRA JUST IN CASE.

YEAH, IT LOOKS LIKE, IS THERE FIVE THERE? I'LL BRING SIX.

IF NOT, I'VE GOT ENOUGH TO PASS OUT.

NEED ONE MORE? ONE MORE.

ONE MORE.

THERE YOU GO.

THAT LETS YOU SEE WHERE WE'RE SITTING, WHAT CAN BE SPENT AND WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN SPENT.

WHY WERE YOU ASKING MORE, MORE? HE, HE PASSED THEM ALL ALONG.

IS YOU NEEDING SOMETHING ELSE, COMMISSIONER? NOPE.

I'M GOOD.

CAN YOU TAKE ONE OF THESE AND PASS IT AROUND CHECKS.

THIS IS ON YOUR FACILITIES BOND.

UH, YOU HAVE STILL A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY LEFT.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO SOME BUDGET LINE ITEM TRANSFERS TO COVER SOME THINGS THAT WE WENT OVER AND THEY WOULD BE IN THE PINK SPOTS SO YOU CAN CALL 'EM OUT AND KNOW WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE.

AND COMMISSIONER BARBER, THIS IS HIS FAULT BECAUSE I'VE SEEN HIS AGENDA ITEM AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE HE HAD CURRENT INFORMATION.

HA, TAKE ONE TO PASS IT.

THAT'S YOUR 2019 BOND ISSUE ON ROADS.

SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE YOU'RE SITTING WITH YOUR CONTINGENCY OR WHAT DO YOU WANT TO CALL DISCRETIONARY FUNDS.

WE ARE GOING TO GO BACK AND BOBBY, IF YOU'LL PUT THE TABLE UP, WE'RE GONNA MOVE INTO,

AND WHAT'S STILL LEFT.

THAT COULD BE MOVED AROUND IF YOU NEED IT, BUT YOU STILL NEED THAT FUNDING MEMO WITH MR. POLLSTER'S APPROVAL.

ALL RIGHT, AMENDING, WE'LL GET THAT AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW AND I CAN GET YOU ALL THE DETAIL YOU NEED.

SO, UH, BEFORE WE ADJOURN, WHICH IS COMMISSIONER PHELPS'S FAVOR, TOPIC OF THE DAY,

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[8. Judge Allen; Discuss the courthouse plans for the historical courthouse.]

UH, WHICH IS NUMBER EIGHT, DISCUSS THE COURTHOUSE PLANS.

WE HAVE THE DRAWINGS BACK FROM THE ARCHITECT AND JACK HAS COPIES.

AND SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL HAVE ONE DEPARTMENT AT A TIME COME UP AND LOOK AT THE DRAWINGS AND MAKE SURE WHAT WE HAVE IS YES.

TAKE IT RIGHT UP HERE, PLEASE.

BOBBY.

WHAT WE NEED TO DO, IF WE NEED TO MAKE ANY CHANGES, THIS IS GOING TO BE IT.

OBJECTION.

YES, MA'AM.

I WANTED TO STAY SINCE I AGREED TO MOVE.

I'M GONNA FIND OUT.

WE'RE PUTTING YOU IN THE BASEMENT.

WE'RE PUTTING YOU IN.

SURPRISED.

ONE MINUTE WE ARE PUTTING YOU IN THE BASEMENT.

I KNOW.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.

ALL RIGHT, MO UH, WE DON'T HAVE THE FIRE MARSHAL.

SO BOTTOM FLOOR.

MONIQUE, IF Y'ALL COME UP AND JACK WILL UNFURL ONE OF THE, THAT'S FOR RIGHT.

AND THEN BOB AND CASEY NEED TO BE THERE TO MAKE SURE IF THERE'S ANY CHANGES.

I THINK POWERPOINT IS PAGE ONE OF THE POWERPOINT.

YOU HAVE .

DO WHAT YOU WANNA SEE THIS? ARE YOU MOVING'S? ROLL YOUR CHAIR OVER HERE DOOR HERE.

THAT'S ALL I REALLY CARE ABOUT.

THE BASEMENT'S ON.

YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT.

HIS OWN BATHROOM.

YOU'RE GONNA BE IN THE OFFICE WHEN SHE GOING IN THE BATHROOM.

YOU MIGHT NOT WANT LIVE IN THAT OFFICE AFTER THAT.

I, SHE'S SITTING HER DOWN THE HALLWAY.

BUT THEY'RE STILL GONNA LEAVE IT AS A COURT.

YEAH, WE'RE GONNA LEAVE IT AS A COURTROOM.

WE NEVER KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE HAS IN STORE.

WE EVEN SAID THAT WE MIGHT BRING WELL, THAT'S ALREADY STRAIGHT UP.

WELL, I FIGURED I'M GONNA DO THE FIRST DOOR ON MY KNEE.

OH.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? YEAH.

ON, ON THE, ON THE BASEMENT.

IT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL FIRE MARSHAL HAVE THEIR OWN SECURITY EXCEPT FOR THAT LOWER SECTION THERE.

UH, THIS, I THINK, UH, NO, DICK HAS, THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE CONFERENCE ROOM.

OH, OKAY.

THIS, THAT, THAT BASEMENT PRETTY MUCH ALL BOTTOM.

THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF YES.

A LITTLE BIT OF ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICE.

BACK CORNER RE A BALLER.

OUR OLD OFFICES HAVE WE GOT A, YEAH.

WHEN YOU SAY CUBICLE, YOU'RE JUST PUTTING, STILL LAID THE SAME.

SO THEN YOU HAVE G I S AND G I S ENGINEER.

DO THEY THINK THEY CAN GET BIG OPEN? RIGHT.

SO CAN WE PUT A CUBICLE HERE AND HERE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT PART? MM-HMM.

SURE.

LAST TIME I WAS IN THERE, THEY NEED TO CLEAN ALL THAT UP.

OH, THE BOILER? YEAH.

ALL THAT ROOM.

IT'S PRETTY CLEAN IN THERE NOW.

IS IT? IT WAS.

I MEAN, I DON'T REMEMBER.

JUST CUBICLES UP.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU, YOU HAVE PICTURES AND THINGS LIKE THAT OF OLD COURTHOUSE AND PEOPLE AND ALL THAT.

DID YOU SEE ALL THAT? MM-HMM.

HOPEFULLY.

HOPEFULLY PAM GOT A HOLD OF IT.

SAVE IT.

YOU WANT ME TO WRITE CONFERENCE? I DON'T KNOW.

I FORGOT WHO SAID THEY WAS GONNA COME GET IT.

I DON'T KNOW.

I HAVEN'T BEEN BACK HERE.

MAKE A NOTE THAT, BUT I MEAN, YOU HAVEN'T SEEN PICTURES, WORKSTATIONS THERE CRAZY.

HUH? WORKSTATIONS.

OH, OFFICE.

IS THAT IT? THAT'S IT.

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PERFECT.

WHO'S THE NEXT VICTIM? NEXT VICTIM.

WHAT'D YOU CHANGE? HUH? WHAT'D YOU CHANGE? HR.

SO, UM, WE GOT YOU ON THE BOTTOM FLOOR.

DID YOU HAVE IT COMING? YES SIR.

UPSIDE DOWN.

THIS IS THE BASEMENT.

IN THAT BOTTOM DOOR.

IS THAT THE BASEMENT? NO.

OH, YOU WERE? I'M ON THE FIRST FLOOR AND THE SECOND FLOOR THREW.

SO THIS JUST GONNA BE ONE CONFERENCE ROOM WHERE WE HAD THE DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS SO THEY CAN RELEASE THAT.

I THOUGHT THIS WAS, THAT WAS JUST ONE BIG ROOM AND THEN I ADDED TWO PEOPLE.

SO THAT'S THE FIRST.

SO THERE'S PURCHASE COURTROOM MAKE PURCHASED.

I DON'T USED TO TAKING THAT OUT AND THEN ADDING TWO CUBICLES AND THEN THE REST IS STAYING ON THE BOTTOM FLOOR.

IT'S WEIRD.

LABELED THIS UPSIDE DOWN.

THEY'RE NOT COMING IN DIRECTLY TO PER SE, THE DIRECTOR OFFICE.

THEY'D HAVE ACCESS TO BILL CLARK HOUSE.

SO WE'D BE HERE.

THIS WOULD BE A PUBLIC DOESN'T HAVE LABELED WHERE? THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

IT SHOULD.

IT SHOULD BE LABELED AS BE A PUBLIC.

WHO'S WHO WE PUT ON THE DOOR PUBLIC GATE.

STILL HERE.

THIS IS MINE BACK HERE.

I KNOW.

THIS IS FIRE MARSHAL.

FIRE MARSHAL.

IT JUST LOOKS DIFFERENT ON HIS PLANS.

I'M JUST, HE'S COMING IN THROUGH THE CONFERENCE ROOM.

IT'S, TO GET INTO HERE LOOKS DIFFERENT.

BUT I'M HERE.

I MEAN I WAS JUST YEAH.

CONFERENCE IS HR.

YEAH, I SAW THE HR BUT I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING ELSE.

SO THAT'S WHERE THIS IS.

AND I THOUGHT MON, I THOUGHT MONIQUE WAS DOWN THE BICYCLE.

SHE'S BOTH 'CAUSE THE STAIRWAY CONNECTS.

SO YOUT MAKE THE CONFERENCE ROOM.

YOU MAKE WELL THERE'S A STAIRWAY INTERNALLY.

THERE'S STAIRWAY DOWN THERE.

THAT WAY WHEN EMPLOYEES ARE COMING IN THROUGH, THAT'S THE ONLY WAY IT GOES.

THEY'RE ABLE TO SEE OFFICES ON THIS SIDE.

NOW YOU THREW ME A LOOP.

BUT THAT'S THE ONLY WAY IT GOES.

IT JUST GOES THIS, IT ONLY GOES THE BASEMENT ABOUT SAY THE FIRST FLOOR STAS.

THERE'S JUST DOWNS ONE WAY IT THREW ME A LOOP TILL YOU SAID SO IT'S JUST NOT CO.

OKAY, WELL I MUST HAVE MISSED SOMETHING GROWING UP.

YOU DID.

YOU DID YOU MISS THAT THAT CLASS? YEAH.

ALL MEASURING THAT WAS, OH, HOW DID NEXT TIME I KNOW FOR, FOR A THAT VERY BE HERE CAN CUBICLES WORK AND THEN THIS CON MALL, I'M NOT SURE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PRIVACY THAT WALKS IN THERE.

DO IS PUT OFFICER, THEY MAKE BE EXTRA OFFICERS.

THEN WHEN THEY COME GROUP, THEY ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIGGER.

WE FLIP FLOP THAT THIS IS GONNA BE TREASURE MC AND THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT FOLKS ARE COMING IN TO SEE, YOU KNOW, LIKE, UH, UH, EMPLOYEES OR OUTSIDE FOLKS.

CLOSE THAT OFF.

WHY WOULD YOU GO UPSTAIRS? COME ON THE FLOOR WHERE SURE, SURE.

THEY HAVE ALL FINANCIALS UPSTAIRS.

THE PUPPY DOESN'T COME SEE Y'ALL ALL THE TIME.

EXACTLY.

SO THAT WAS KIND, THAT WAS THE REASON TO FLIP FLO.

SO WHO'S I? THE BIG ROOM.

I LEAVE THAT DOOR THERE.

I GUESS THEY HADN'T WALKED UP AND LOOKED AT THE MAP YET.

PURCHASES.

SO WHAT ARE YOU GONNA PUT RIGHT HERE? SO RIGHT HERE WOULD BE MORE OF A LOBBY AREA.

WE WANT BE ABLE TO PUT LIKE THE BROCHURES.

INFORMATION FOR EMPLOYEES.

UM-HUH.

ON SECOND AIN'T REALLY TRUE.

ALL I CARE ABOUT IS ELECTRIC, STEEL, PLUMBING, AIR CONDITIONING IS FIXED.

IT'S ALL CAMERA.

ALL THE REST OF THE STUFF IS JUST, DOESN'T MATTER.

I'M JUST SAYING CARRY THAT WALL STRAIGHT.

ELIMINATE ONE MORE BACK.

SO IT'LL HAVE IT OPEN.

NOW DON'T, IF THAT JUST WENT STRAIGHT AND THESE THREE OFFICER WOULD BE BIGGER.

VERY SIMPLE.

THAT'S NOT EVEN OH.

THAT WAY.

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SO THAT'D BE ONE WE USE DIVIDED THIS BY THREE.

SO YEAH.

IF YOU STILL WANT, WE CAN ADD A DOOR HERE.

IT'S ALREADY THERE.

I JUST LEAVE ALREADY THAT JUST SO ALL KNOW THIS.

THIS IS GONNA BE ALL ONE OFFICER.

WHERE THAT LINE IS IT? WE ALL DIVIDED THIS.

THEY HAD TO REBUILD.

IT'S GONNA BE INSIDE THE COURT OFFICER.

THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT TOO, RIGHT? DEAN? FIVE PLUS THEY'LL HAVE TO, I GUESS PUT A ACROSS THE FRONT.

YEAH, THEY SHOULD.

WHAT DO YOU CALL THAT? DESK? IT LOOKS, THANK YOU.

SO DESK? YES MA'AM.

ANOTHER OPTION IS YOU FINISH CONFERENCE TABLE HEARING CONFERENCE TABLE.

YEAH, I THINK IT WORKS BETTER, SIR.

THANK YOU BOTH.

GIVES YOU A LITTLE MORE STATUS.

NATE.

STATUS.

UM, OKAY.

NOW WHAT ALL SPACES INCLUDED DO EVERYTHING IS IS ALREADY THERE.

OKAY SIR.

YOU'LL PICK UP SOME OFFICERS THERE BY HAVING THAT AREA THERE.

THREE STORAGE HERE.

THAT'S EXTREMELY SECURE THERE.

UM, I HONESTLY DON'T NEED THAT MUCH STORAGE SPACE HERE.

I COULD USE ANOTHER OFFICE HERE.

AND THEN SMALLER AMOUNT.

SO YOU GOT 1, 2, 1, 4, 5, 6.

YOU GOT SEVEN OFFICES? YEAH.

AND YOU GOT EACH TWO ROOM HERE? FILE STORAGE.

IS THAT ONE ROOM BIG ENOUGH? YEAH.

WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS A, UH, SECURE ACCOUNT ROOM.

WELL ONE OF THOSE IS A, IS IT, WHERE'S THE ONE THAT'S, THAT'S LOCKED THAT THEY KEPT EVIDENCE IN.

THIS ONE HERE? YEAH.

SO WE CAN PUT THE SAFE IN THERE.

YOU WANT DO TWO WEEKS OR DO YOU DON'T WANT TO ADD THAT OFFICE? WELL, WE CAN USE FORMAL LATER.

YEAH, WE NEED 'EM LATER.

YEAH, WE CAN, WE CAN USE THIS FOR OUR UH, WORK ROOM FOR TRAINING ROOM, WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO.

GOT SOME BUNK BEDS IN THERE.

BUNK ABOUT THAT.

OH YEAH, THAT'S, WE GONNA FIND OUT IF YOU WERE GOING SLEEP OR NOT.

, HE GOES TO SLEEP A LOT.

HAVE A NAP.

THERE USED TO BE SHOWERS IN MY ONLY QUESTION.

IS THIS OH THE BASEMENT? NO, IN THE HALLWAY.

HALLWAY.

I LIKE THAT.

THAT WAS TO GET TO THE RESTROOM.

WALK ALL WAY AROUND.

ROOMS AND THERE ALL THROUGH THERE.

AND THEN TWO INCHES INDICATE SEQUESTERED JURY HALLWAY HERE.

MAN, THAT'D BE TOUGH.

BACK INTO THAT COURSE.

BEFORE YOU HAD TO WALK ALL WAY AROUND TO GO TO RESTROOM.

SO THAT, THAT WAS THE PROBLEM.

PRETTY COOL.

GO IN THERE.

OH WELL YOU KNOW IT SPENT A LOT OF PRETTY NEAT STUFF.

IT'S IN ITS OWN JAIL CELLS.

THERE'S JAIL CELLS RIGHT HERE.

IT USED TO BE IN OUR OFFICE.

THIS IS, I NEVER SEEN THEM.

JAIL SALES.

WHEN YOU CAME IN, LIKE THE MAIN ENTRANCE THAT USED STRIKES, YOU KIND OF WALKED AROUND.

I NEVER WENT IN THE DA'S OFFICE.

I'VE NEVER BEEN IN THE DA'S OFFICE.

SO YOU MEAN THIS WAS THE MAIN ENTRANCE? YEAH.

HAD SOMEBODY KINDA HERE THAT WOULD BE A STRAIGHT LINE.

EXCUSE ME BOBBY, YOU CAN HAVE CIVIL RIGHTS LIKE WE HAVE NOW.

YOU GOT ONE.

THIS IS, THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE MY AREA AND JACK AND I ARE GONNA SHARE RESTROOMS IN A CONFERENCE ROOM BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE A PLACE THE, WE HAVE PLACE OUTSIDE AUDITOR, WHICH GIVES ME EXTRA SPACE.

I RAN INTO HIM.

SO TO PUT THEM

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FOR FOUR TO FIVE WEEKS.

FINISH REPORT TOGETHER FOR A REVIEW.

'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS, BUT THIS GIVES ME ROOM FOR GROWTH.

AND THEN I CAN HAVE A SECURE AREA FOR THE CHECK PRINTER BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE LOCKED UP.

SO THAT SATISFIES ME.

AND I GUESS THIS WILL BE MY OFFICE AND THEN MY TWO, MY FIRST ASSISTANT, THEN THE SECOND ONE AND THEN MY OUTSIDE.

I MEAN MY INTERNAL AUDITORS AND THEN MY AP CLERKS.

YEP.

SO THAT GIVES 'EM AN ENTRANCE TO COME AND BRING THE BILLS.

BUT THEN IT MAKES 'EM HAVE TO, IF THEY REALLY WANT TO SEE ME OR BRANDY, WE HAVE TO COME THROUGH THAT WAY.

ALRIGHT, WELL THEY CAN COME, THIS'LL BE A LOCKED DOOR JUST FOR OUR EXIT.

AND THEN THE WAY JACK DID THIS, HE THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE PRETTY GOOD FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE WANTING TO BRING IN BIDS.

BUT THEY DON'T NEED TO ACTUALLY SEE THE PURCHASING AGENT OR ANYTHING.

RIGHT, JACK? YEAH, THEY CAN, THEY CAN DROP 'EM OFF.

THEY CAN COME IN HERE AND DROP A BID OFF IF THEY HAVE TO.

THERE'S ANOTHER WALL HERE OUT.

THEY DIDN'T, THEY DIDN'T SIGN THEIR BID OR DIDN'T DO THEIR WORK THERE.

THAT WAS OUR, OUR IDEA WHAT WOULD WORK WITH US.

SURE.

I WILL SAY THAT, UH, OF COURSE THESE, THESE ARE TWO OFFICERS CURRENTLY ARE GONNA BE CONVERTED TO RESTROOM.

'CAUSE THEY'RE OVER THE FIRST, THE FIRST FLOOR WILL BE EASY TO DO HELP.

THIS WILL BE KIND OF A I WHAT WE, WHAT THIS GONNA BE FOR.

I'LL SAY THIS.

THERE'S, THERE'S KIND OF A BREAK HERE OBVIOUSLY FOR THE ALTERED RIGHT HERE IN THIS, IN THIS OLD AREA RIGHT HERE.

IT'S A REFRIGERATOR AND A SINK AND STUFF.

AND WE WERE THINKING ABOUT TRYING TO MAKE THIS SO LIKE THE BREAK.

MAKE THIS MAYBE THE BREAK ROOM SO WE CAN ALL SHARE IT.

YEAH, JUST, JUST TOUCH ON THAT.

UH, THIS IS, THEY CALL IT A BREAK ROOM.

I THINK THIS IS A SMALL MICROWAVE AND YOU DON'T WANNA BE GOING INTO THE CONFERENCE ROOM FOR BREAK.

SO I MARKED THIS ON MY PLANS PURCHASING EXPANSION SLASH SHARE C**K ROOM BECAUSE UH, THAT'S THE ONLY AREA THERE WE WOULD HAVE TO GROW.

SO KIND OF TAGGING THAT FOR FUTURE GROWTH.

BUT IT WILL BE SHARE A SHARED CO ROOM.

BUT, BUT IF WE EVER NEED TO ADD SOMETHING THAT'D BE PERFECT FOR THIS AREA.

AND THIS STILL GIVES ME ROOM IF HE DOES HAVE TO TAKE THIS AREA THAT I CAN MAKE THIS ALLOTTED OUTSIDE AUDITOR'S ROOM.

'CAUSE THEY'RE ONLY HERE FOR FOUR WEEKS OR SO.

SO THAT WAS KIND OF OUR PLAN.

WHAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT.

WELL WE NEED TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S TAKEN CARE OF WHILE WE HAVE THE SPACE FUTURE GROWTH.

AND HERE, SO COULD BE DONE WITH THIS.

YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF WEIRD BEING RIGHT OUT THERE.

MAKE SENSE.

, I, EVERYBODY'S HAPPY WE'RE THINKING IS WELL IT MAY APPEAR, UH, BE A BIGGER THAN YOU NEED.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT, SEE WHAT THE COUNTY HAD DONE IN THE PAST BIT, YOU MOVE INTO THE BUILDING, IT'S ALREADY TOO SMALL.

AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET AROUND THAT CURVE WHERE WE DON'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM.

WE STILL HAVE SOME ROOM.

TO MAKE THINGS WORK, WE HAVE TO YEAH.

WE DON'T NEED THE BUILDING ANOTHER, THE BUILDING STILL GROWING.

SO, AND UM, AND WE STILL HAVE THIS, THIS BUILDING THIS, WE HAVE THIS ONE TOO.

SO I'M NOT GONNA GET RID OF THIS ONE.

NOW THAT THEY'RE ABOUT AS BIG AS THIS TABLE.

I'LL HAVE AN EXTRA OFFICE HERE THAT I CAN USE FOR STORAGE BECAUSE THE STATE LIBRARY, I HAVE TO JUST HAVE TO KEEP SEVEN, SEVEN YEARS.

THERE'S NOW IT'S THREE SOMETHING.

THE SHREDDERS CAN COME IN AND TAKE OLD STUFF AND COME OUT AND GET RID OF BUNCH OF SHREDDER.

YOU KNOW MY QUESTION, YOU BRING THAT SWEATER SHREDDERS UP.

WE COULDN'T BUY A QUALITY TYPE SHREDDER THAT ACTUALLY SPREADS THINGS THAT WE STARTED DOING IT MORE OFTEN THAN AND PUT IT IN A PLACE SOMEWHERE THAT WE COULD USE IN THIS.

WELL I HAD TO GO TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE OVER THERE.

THAT'S A LONG WAY TO GO.

AND I BUILT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THOSE MACHINES WERE SHRED BIGS.

OH I KNOW.

I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT THEY JUST, THEY DROVE UP TO BACK HERE.

OH.

COME UP AND BROUGHT A BIG OLD BUCKET AND FILLED IT UP.

TOOK IT AND SHRED SHREDDED AND COME BACK AND GOT OTHERS.

SO WE HAVE ROOM AND WE HAD BOXES STACKED EVERYWHERE 'CAUSE OF THE BILLS AND STUFF.

I GUESS I WAS JUST ASKING BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THEY GOT SUCH GOOD QUALITY SHREDDER

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AND LET ME TELL YOU, THEY AND WELL LIKE THE ONE WE HAVE UPSTAIRS AND I THINK CHUCK HAS ONE.

YOU HAVE TO PULL THE STAPLES OUT AND ALL THAT.

AND THIS, THEY TAKE EVERYTHING JUST LIKE IT IS AND IT GOES THROUGH.

WELL THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

YOU CAN BUY 'EM AND DO EVERYTHING THAT'LL DO THAT.

THEY'LL, BUT THEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S GONNA COME GET THE STUFF, HAUL IT DOWN THERE AND DO IT.

THE THING IS, I, I DON'T KNOW.

UH, I'M JUST SAYING, I DUNNO WHERE THE LEGAL ASPECT THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE BONDED.

THEY'RE SHREDDED, SHREDDED STUFF.

IF YOU JUST START LETTING EVERY, EVERYBODY IN HOUSE.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S, I UNDERSTAND.

IT'S A GOOD, GOOD QUESTION.

GOOD.

IT IS A GOOD QUESTION.

I MEAN, BECAUSE THEY'RE REALLY EXPENSIVE.

THEY ARE.

I I MEAN AND, AND YOU GET DAY TO DAY STUFF AND THAT YOU'VE SHRED AND PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW, YOU KNOW, STUFF BUILDS UP.

THEN WE CUT DOWN THE BUY GIVE IF WE STILL USE THEM.

GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF THE GROSS.

WHEN I CAME HERE, THE GENERAL FUND WAS ABOUT 44,000.

WE'RE 80 SOMETHING THOUSAND IS GROWING.

SO THAT'S DONE ALMOST.

I WILL SAY A LOT OF STUFF GOING TO ELECTRONIC.

YOU NOT GONNA BE AS MUCH IN THE FUTURE.

MAYBE THAT'S WHAT I'M, IF IT'S ALL ONE PAPER.

YOU KNOW WHAT THIS IS ABOUT STORY.

BUT THIS IS FIRE MARSHAL.

I WENT TO LOGAN, BUT I HAVEN'T TALKED TO HIM.

I NEED ALL THESE OFFICES.

MY BILL, BECAUSE I GO TO LOGAN LOT OFWELL.

THAT'S, I WAS TRYING TO, OH THIS WAS THE OLD DA'S OFFICE.

DA WAS HERE.

I THE FIRST FLOOR ON THE FIRST.

OH, OKAY.

I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GONNA TAKE CHECK ANYMORE.

THAT GONNA BE ENOUGH ROOM HERE.

KEEP PUSHING THIS.

HAVE TO GO.

YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THIS TO GO ALL SOCIAL SECURITY.

IF IT DOESN'T GO TO YOUR BANK, THEY'LL GIVE YOU A CARD.

YOUR IS THIS YOUR, IS THIS YOUR UM, THAT'S, UH, YEAH, DON'T NEED.

SO HERE STORAGE IS HERE.

LIKE A CONFERENCE ROOM HERE.

THAT'S WHAT BE OFFICE.

SO IS THIS US HERE? YEAH, THIS IS US HERE.

GENERATION.

QUESTION IS, UH, OKAY DOWN HERE JACK.

NOW WE'RE TALKING, WE'RE NOT GETTING THE BENCHES FROM THE, THAT'S GONNA GIVE US A LOT OF WRE.

WE CAN JUST BRING THE CHAIRS THAT THEY HAVE NOW PUT IN THAT BUILDING INSTEAD OF RENTING CHAIRS OR SOMETHING.

WE COULD TAKE THESE OVER THERE.

THAT'S ONE WITH THE BOOK.

THAT'S WHY ONE WITH NO, NO, NO.

JP IS GOING TO EXPANSION.

T C SHUT DOWN LOT.

SO THEY CAN'T DELIVER INTEREST.

WE DON'T KNOW.

I TALKED TO KEY FLASH TOO MUCH CORRIDOR SHUT OUT ALL TO ME BE TWO WEEKS TO A MONTH.

THEY HATE TO GET RID OF IT.

SORE.

THEY'RE GONNA KEEP ANYWAY IS GOOD BECAUSE IT'S HISTORICAL.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REFURBISHING THE HEAT.

THERE'LL BE A GOOD DEAL.

OR ON UPSTAIRS OF THE COURTROOM FAIR.

OR JUST GOING AHEAD OFFER MONEY BY NEW BEACHES AND NOT BE IN THIS PREDICAMENT AGAIN, TT C OR FINDING SOMEBODY LOCAL TO REFURBISH 'EM.

SO THAT'S THE DECISION WE NEED TO COME UP WITH.

STUFF ON THE NO DEER HEADS.

I MEAN THERE'S PEOPLE THAT COME IN AND STAND THEM DOWN AND THEM, WE JUST FOUND OUT THE OTHER DAY A COUPLE DAYS AGO, PEOPLE THAT MOVED US INTO THE BUILDING.

GOT THEY HAVE A DIVISION THAT THAT.

THERE YOU GO.

WHY DON'T YOU CONTACT THEM? COME, COME LOOK.

GIVE US SURPRISE.

I KNOW THERE'S SOME THAT ARE DAMAGED.

THAT'S WHAT HE DID.

WELL THEY COULD DO THESE SITE.

I WONDER THAT HAVE TO MOVE THEM.

JUST, I SAID HE JUST DOWN AND YEAH.

SO WHAT ARE WE DOING AS FAR AS OUR BENCH CHERRY GOES LIKE THIS RIGHT HERE.

ARE WE GONNA MOVE THIS OVER THERE OR WHAT? WHAT'S NO THAT DO IT.

OH, OKAY.

IT'S GONNA BE MORE PROFESSIONAL.

BE GOOD .

IT WON'T BE ANY HANDICAP.

STILL BEEN WAITING FOR THE DEER

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CAREFUL.

WHAT'S TRYING TO SAY MORE, MORE .

YOU'RE JUST GONNA HAVE FIVE SEATS UP HERE.

JUST LIKE THIS RIGHT HERE.

JUST LIKE THIS.

YOU GONNA, OKAY.

I GUESS YOU'RE DOING, WE GOT SOME LARGE SOMEWHERE.

DO THE OTHER ONE IN THE FRONT, LIKE KEEP SOME, YOU HAVE SEAT FOR THESE PEOPLE ON THE SIDES IN THE FRONT.

AND THEN Y'ALL, I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH ROOM MR. GONNA LEAVE AS LONG AS WE GOT A BACK DOOR.

NOTHING.

IS THERE A BACK DOOR TO THAT? YES SIR.

THE BACK DOOR HERE.

WE COULD GET TO ADD A DOOR HERE AND SEE WE'RE CLOSING OFFICE.

THIS HERE.

BUT WE GOTTA PUT LAURA SOMEWHERE.

THEY'RE USING THAT.

THAT'S GONNA BE CONFERENCE PUT CONFERENCE RIGHT THERE.

SO WHERE WANNA PUT THE CLUTTER? WELL, I MEAN HOW HOW MUCH, WHAT'S THE DISTANCE HERE? WE KNOW HOW BIG THAT AREA, HOW WIDE THAT IS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS WIDE ROAD OR NOT.

WHAT'S THAT? GET YOU TO IT.

HOW WIDE? HOW WIDE IS THAT? ANY IDEA? I DON'T KNOW.

IS IT AS WIDE AS THIS OR I BET IT'S NO, NO, NO, IT'S NOT.

IT'S PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE IN THE ROOM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE FIVE OF US UP THERE THAT HAVE NO ONE ELSE THAT SHOULD BE DOWN HERE.

PUT A LITTLE BENCH DOWN THERE OR SOME LITTLE DESK.

SOMETHING KIND OF LIKE THEY WOULD BE LIKE RIGHT THERE.

EVERY ONE OF 'EM I GO INTO, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S AUSTIN OR WHATEVER.

IF YOU GO INTO ONE DOWN THERE, HAVE YOU EVER BEEN INTO ONE IN AUSTIN? YEAH.

BUT THEY DO THAT THE COMMISSION'S THERE AND THEN THE CLERK AND MIDDLE SIDE.

LAWYER, WHATEVER.

AND THE AUDITOR OR WHATEVER.

KINDA LIKE WHERE A COURT REPORTER ONE SOMEWHERE UP ONE STEP AND THERE HAND SOMETHING DOWN TO 'EM.

WE WOULD NEED FOUR THAT THE YOU DON'T NEED.

YEAH, YOU DON'T.

AND THE SHERIFF, THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE FOUR WIDE.

THEY CAN ALSO PUT IT LIKE AUDITOR COULD BE IN ONE CHAIR AND THE OTHER COULD BE ONE CLERK COULD BE IN FRONT OF ONE.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YEAH.

YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WELL THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO BUT TO, TO JUST NEED TO MEASURE IT.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? AND SEE WHAT FITS BEST.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

WE CAN DO THAT.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? AND HAVE THESE GUYS AND IT'S ALMOST LIKE WE COULD LOOK AT SOME OTHER, SEE WHAT SOME OTHER ONES ARE DOING, HOW THEY GOT THERE, SET UP.

WELL THAT'S WHAT I SAID.

THE THAT ONE REALLY NICE.

AND BECAUSE THAT, THAT PROBABLY, THAT ROOM'S PROBABLY DOWN BACK FROM HERE TO THAT WALL.

THERE WASN'T, WOULDN'T Y'ALL THINK NO COURTROOM DOWNSTAIRS? YEAH, IT'S PRETTY WIDE.

I'M THINKING ABOUT RIGHT HERE.

YOU THINK ONE UPSTAIRS WIDER, ONE UPSTAIRS IT'S WIDER.

ONE THAT SOUNDS BETTER.

WHICH, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS LIKE 32.

SO IF YOU CUT THESE TWO OFF THE ENDS AND YOU BRING THEM TO THE FRONT.

YEAH, IT SHOULD BE, SHOULD BE RIGHT IN THERE.

FIT IN THERE.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

YOU KNOW, AND IF YOU NEED TO STAGGER THOSE, YOU CAN, YOU CAN.

AND I THINK, I THINK THEY ACTUALLY HAD 'EM STAGGERED.

I THINK THEY HAD CLARKS, LIKE THE COUNTY CLARK HAD A PARSON AND THE AUDITOR HAD PARSON.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? YEAH.

AND UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY ACTUALLY HAD LAWYERS IN THERE SOMETIMES BECAUSE YOU DON'T, YOU KNOW, I'M SITTING TOO MUCH ALONG HERE.

BUT ABOUT RULE, YOU SHOULDN'T BE ASKING HER QUESTIONS BECAUSE YOU LOSE YOUR, I JUST WANT SEE, PUT A CHAIR IN FRONT OF THIS.

SO IF YOU OH YEAH.

IT'S STILL CLEAR, WOULDN'T IT? WHAT DOING SO WE CAN HIT ON THE HEAD.

THAT'S JUST WHAT YOU'RE KIND OF TALKING ABOUT.

RIGHT? SHUT.

BUT YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT DOING THE LAWYERS THAT WAY, RIGHT? NO, NO.

THE CLERK AND THE MECHANIC CLERK.

THE AUDITOR.

AUDITOR.

SO YOU CAN PASS PAPER DOWN ON THE BACK AND FORTH TO THE AUDITOR.

THE LAWYER OR THE AUDITOR STILL TALKS TO US NEEDS, THEY ALL HAVE MICROPHONES.

WELL, I KNOW, BUT EVERY COURSE YOU GO TO THEY, I KNOW STEVE HAVE TO TALK TO SOMEBODY.

, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, I MEAN, HE DIDN'T WANT TELL CARE SHE BE SITTING DOWN HERE.

THAT'S WOULD JUST BE, HEY, WE'LL WORK ON IT LATER.

WE'LL WORK ON IT LATER.

MR. LEMME TALK TO YOU SOME MORE.

YES MA'AM.

I DID NOT FILL OUT A CARD TO SPEAK, BUT I'LL BE GLAD TO GO FILL OUT ONE.

UM, I KNOW I'M THE LONE MEMBER OF THE PRESS THAT YOU EVER SEE, BUT THE COUNTY IS GROWING AND THAT MAY CHANGE.

AND SO WHILE YOU'RE CONSIDERING HOW YOU'RE SETTING UP THE COURTROOM

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, PLEASE PUT A TABLE SOMEWHERE FOR THE PRESS.

IT MAY NOT JUST BE ME AS THE, UH, AS THE COUNTY GROWS.

AND PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ENOUGH, UH, TECHNICAL STUFF FOR ALL THOSE TELEVISION STATIONS TO PLUG IN DOWN.

WELL, TELEVISION, I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT, BUT YOU KNOW, WE USED TO HAVE A TABLE AT THE PRESS SET.

AND THE YES.

I USED TO SIT AT IT.

I I USED TO SIT AT JUICE.

USED TO SIT ON IT.

OH, SO DID THE RESIDENT.

NOW I REMEMBER.

WE'VE BEEN SITTING ON IT A FEW TIMES.

OH NO, NO.

I, WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT'LL, I WILL BE GLAD TO GO BACK AND FILL OUT A CARD TO MAKE THIS OFFICIAL.

BUT YOU'RE OFFICIAL ALREADY.

WE'RE OFFICIAL.

I JUST COULDN'T STAND IT THAT, THAT I'M, I'M BOBBY'S ALREADY DRAWN ONE A PLACE IN FOR YOU.

THANK .

THERE MAY BE TWO OR FOUR OR SIX OF US FIVE YEARS FROM NOW.

WELL FINAL.

WE'RE GONNA PUT ONE SEAT.

IT'S IN THERE.

EARLY BIRD USED TO BIRD.

YOU'RE CLOSEST TO THE DOOR IN THE HALLWAY.

WHOEVER'S MOST RUNNING TO OH, THAT'S WHAT I NEED.

SO I CAN RUN IF I HAVE TO.

NO, HE DREW A TABLE IN FOR YOU.

WHAT ELSE Y'ALL THINK ABOUT, IF NOT, JACK, CAN WE GET, CAN WE PUT A TICKET BOOTH OUT THERE AND CHARGE A MISSION? YEAH.

NOW ONE THING WE HAVEN'T CONSIDERED THAT WOULD BE BETTER WITH IT, WE COULD MAKE, MAKE LITTLE FEES.

ONE THING WE HAVEN'T CONSIDERED IS SECURITY.

HOMEOWNER TAX.

THAT APPARENTLY IS, IS A BIG ISSUE NOW WITH, WITH THE, WITH THE STATE WHEN THEY'RE DOING THESE NEW RENOVATIONS.

AND OF COURSE THEY'RE CONCERNED LIKE YOUR OFFICE, THAT YOU CAN JUST WALK RIGHT UP TO THAT WINDOW.

UH, SO YOU KNOW, SOME OPTIONS ARE BULLETPROOF.

UH, FILM ON THE WINDOWS.

UH, THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED.

THAT'S WORK.

I TESTED IT DON'T WORK.

IS THAT RIGHT? AND THEN THEY MENTIONED HAVING SOME KIND OF FENCE.

'CAUSE YOU THINK ABOUT IT, YOU CAN GO WALK RIGHT UP TO THE JUDGE'S WINDOW.

WHICH ONE? WELL DO WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT SECURITY IN EXECUTIVE SESSION? YEAH.

WE GOTTA HAVE A PLACE FOR THE DEPUTY.

BUT DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS, YOU GOTTA HAVE SECURITY IN THE BUILDING.

YOU DO HERE.

YOU KNOW THERE'S AN OFFICE ON THAT FIRST FLOOR THAT, UH, IN THE END I WAS THINKING ABOUT SOMEWHERE THIS FIRST FLOOR HERE.

YEP.

I WAS THINKING SOMEWHERE LIKE THERE'S GONNA BE ONE HERE.

THERE'S A LITTLE LOUNGE HERE.

THIS, THIS WAS THE OLD SECURITY.

THE OLD SECURITY IS RIGHT HERE.

AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S MORE OPTIONS.

I SAID, I SAID IN HERE WAS THAT THEY NEEDED TO LOOK AT THIS ROOM AND WIDEN THIS DOOR IF WE NEEDED TO.

OR A HANDICAP RESTROOM 'EM, BECAUSE WE GOT PIPES HERE.

DO WHAT NOW? WE HAVE PLUMBING, YOU KNOW, THERE AND YOU CAN GET UNDERNEATH THE BASEMENT.

THIS IS THE FIRST FLOOR, RIGHT? YEAH.

BATHROOM.

WELL THIS, THIS IS ANOTHER TOO.

WHY DO WE NEED RESTROOM? HERE? HERE AND RIGHT HERE.

THIS WAS FOR, UH, THE OLD SHERIFF USED TO BE HERE YEARS AGO.

THAT'S ON SECOND.

I DON'T KNOW WHY THESE TWO ARE HERE.

I ONE OF THOSE CARRY BECAUSE THEY ONE 'EM OUT.

GOT HERE, HERE IS, THAT'S NOT BIG ENOUGH FOR BREAKER IN HERE.

YOU GOT RESTROOM OUT THERE.

WATER ATORY STUFF.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY USE THIS ROOM FOR.

DO Y'ALL KNOW RIGHT NOW? THAT'S JUST A DEPUTY.

UH, THE DEPUTIES, THEY USED TO GO IN THERE AND LOUNGE IN THE COURTROOM.

IT WAS LISA.

WE WONDER, THEY COULDN'T, THEY COULDN'T TAKE A RESTROOM OUT AND MAKE THIS A SECURITY BECAUSE YOU GOT RESTROOM HERE.

WELL WE DON'T WANT, YOU DON'T WANT EVER TAKE OUT A RESTAURANT.

THE RESTROOM.

THIS TOWN WE'RE ALREADY SO SHORT ON THEM THAT, SEE, MY ORIGINAL SUGGESTION WAS THAT WE GET TO THIS BE OUR CONFERENCE ROOM, KINDA COME IN HERE, THE CONFERENCE ROOM AND WE, WELL WE CAN, 'CAUSE WE CAN GO OUT THIS WAY AND COME RIGHT AROUND DOWN HERE.

AND IF WE HAD AN EXIT IN THIS WALL, WHAT IS THIS RIGHT HERE? BATHROOM FOR THE, WHAT'S THAT CORD RIGHT THERE? I THINK THERE'S NOTHING.

IT'S HERE.

THIS RIGHT.

IT'S AIR.

BUT IF WE GOT TWO AIR, THEN THIS WAS JUST FOR THE AIR.

THAT'S FOR THE AIR HANDLERS OVER HERE.

IF WE DID AWAY WITH THAT FOR AIR CONDITION AND WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF THIS MIGHT HAVE TO CHANGE.

YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? YEAH.

IF WE GO TO CONVENTIONAL.

HOPEFULLY THAT WOULD BE WHEELCHAIRS ALREADY THINK WE SAID VOID.

ANYBODY CONCERN ABOUT IT, BUT HOPEFULLY PUT IN THERE DIDN'T MAKE SENSE.

HEY JUDGE, SIR.

PAM WAS ASKING ME ABOUT HER IN THE PLANS.

WE GOT HER RIGHT AROUND THE FIRST TREE TO THE RIGHT.

YOU COMING ? YEAH.

SHE'S ON THE SECOND FLOOR.

BUT JUST LIKE THEIR, JUST RIGHT HERE, JUST LIKE THEIR ATTORNEY BOOKS AND STUFF.

JUST SO BACK ON THIS.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING A, UH, DEAL LIKE THIS SIR.

RIGHT HERE.

AND THEN IS THIS GOING TO BE JUST LIKE GROUND LEVEL WITH SOME KIND OF GROUND LEVEL? GROUND LEVEL? LIKE WITH THE TABLE MAYBE? YEP.

JUST LIKE, JUST KINDA LIKE THIS

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ATTORNEY TABLES WOULD BE OUT THERE LEVEL AND THESE PEOPLE WOULD BE HIGHER.

YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? YEAH.

WOULD WE WANT TO DO A, A DEAL LIKE THIS BUILT IN VERSUS A, YOU KNOW? YEAH.

BECAUSE THE AUDIENCE GOING OUT THERE, THEY'RE JUST GONNA BE RIGHT THERE.

OR WE COULD HAVE TWO TABLES.

YEAH, IT COULD BE, IT'D BE EASIER JUST TO HAVE TWO TABLES.

RIGHT? DOESN'T MATTER.

I'M JUST NOW MUCH THAT WAY BE THERE COULD BE AS MANY AS FOUR PEOPLE HERE.

THAT'S ALL THAT WE NEED TO BE THERE BECAUSE WE'RE OUT A ROOM.

TWO PUT TWO TABLES, BUT WE HAVE A WALL HERE ALREADY.

WE'RE GONNA KEEP THE WALL, THEY'LL BE INSIDE THE WALL.

YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? YEP.

THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.

I THINK.

WELL I UNDERSTAND.

I'M JUST SAYING JUDGE, WE JUST HAVE TO MEASURE IT ALL AND SEE HOW IT ALL FITS HERE DOWN A LEVEL.

IT'S A IN.

YOU SEE WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE YEAH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT.

YOU PUT IT DOWN A LEVEL, BUT JUST I ON THE SIDE DID THAT.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? KINDA LIKE YOU HAVE IT HERE, JUST DROPPING DOWN LEVEL.

IT'S GOT TO BE BUILT UP.

THE, THIS WOULD BE UP AND YEAH, THIS IS BUILT UP ALREADY.

BUILD IS LEVEL HERE.

BUT YOU'RE GONNA BUILD IT UP TO THIS LEVEL.

WHAT I'M SAYING IS, YEAH, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT YOU WERE TRYING TO WALK TO AND FROM.

WE WOULD NEVER NEED TO WALK OUT THIS WAY.

SHOULDN'T HAVE TO.

WHEN Y'ALL TAKE PICTURES YOU MIGHT, WE'LL JUST HAVE TO STAY RIGHT THERE.

EITHER STAY RIGHT THERE OR, OR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO USE THIS AROUND AND COME AROUND HERE.

USE THIS AND COME OUT.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE A DOOR TO THIS SO WE CAN BRING PEOPLE INTO THAT OFFICE.

THERE IS, THERE WAS A DOOR RIGHT THERE.

NOW PUT THAT DOOR THERE.

AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

WE JUST USE THE DOOR.

WELL WE SEE THAT'S, THAT'S A CLOSED OFF DOOR TO PUT THAT BACK OF THE DOOR.

YEP.

PUT A DOOR IN THIS CORNER THERE.

NO, BECAUSE IF YOU WANT TO PUT ATTORNEYS NOT WANT TO PUT THE DESK RIGHT THERE FOR THEM AND THEN WE CAN TURN AROUND AND ASK THEM QUESTIONS WITHOUT BEING ON THE MIC AFTER WE GET IT MEASURED.

EVERYTHING WE SHOULD SEE.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? OR IN THAT CORNER, ONE OF THE TWO, YOU KNOW.

THERE'S GONNA HAVE TO BE AROUND, THERE'S GONNA HAVE TO BE A RAMP.

IF YOU, IF WE RAISE THIS UP, LIKE THIS IS RAISED UP, WE HAVE TO PUT A A D A HANDICAP RAMP.

OH YOU WILL? MM-HMM.

IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE ONCE, WELL YOU MAY HAVE TO MAKE IT FROM HERE ALL THE WAY TO HERE.

RAMP.

NO, I DON'T THINK YOU WANT TO.

IF WE DO LIKE COME IN AND GO UP.

COME IN AND GO UP AND WALK AND THEN OPEN.

WE CAN DO THAT.

AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TO PUT AROUND.

BUT I, IF WE CAN MAKE, IF THERE'S ENOUGH ROOM TO GET, EXPAND ALL THAT OUT, WE OURSELVES IN THERE.

WE NEED TO GO THERE.

JUST MEASURE.

WE, WHAT'S GOING TO FIT.

YEAH, BECAUSE WE'LL DRAW IT UP.

WE GOT OUR SOFTWARE, WE'VE DRAW IT UP.

IF NOTHING ELSE, IF WE HAD TO GO TO THE TOP FLOOR, WE GOT THE TOP FLOOR.

IT'S BIGGER MAKE FIT.

IT'S BIGGER CORPORATE.

IT'S WIDER.

LET'S HAVE SEE HOW EITHER WAY WE'RE GOING KEEP ONE ANYWAY.

WHETHER BE BOTTOM OR TOP.

NOW YOU, I KNOW YOU GUYS WERE OBVIOUSLY HERE.

DID K DO ANYTHING UH, FAR AS DESIGNING ANY, ANY? THEY DID I HAVE SOME PLANS.

IS IT? BUT I DON'T THINK BUT IT WAS JUST WHO'S GOING HERE? WHO? IT WASN'T ANY.

NO, I DON'T THINK SO.

ONE KIND OF ARCHITECTURAL DEPART.

MECHANICAL, NO.

MECHANICAL STUFF THAT Y'ALL AWARE OF? I HAVEN'T FOUND ANYTHING.

I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING.

THEY JUST, WHERE EVERYBODY'S GOING TO GO.

THE COMMISSIONER COURT IS GOING BE OVER HERE.

THEY GOING TEAR ALL THAT OUT.

THEY JUST DECIDED HE WAS GOING TO WEAR.

YEAH, I KNOW.

'CAUSE A GUY, IT WAS MESSED.

HE MENTIONED HOW EXPENSIVE AND GET THESE MECHANICAL DRAWING.

HE'S KIND PUT US IN A KIND OF ANYTHING DONE THEY LIKE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT DONE.

I'LL SHOW YOU WHAT I HAVE THAT WAS LEFT.

I THINK IT WAS JUST WHO'S GOING WHERE TYPE THING.

AND IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING STILL IN THE OLD OFFICE OVER THERE.

THEY GO THERE 'CAUSE ALL, THERE'S A BUNCH OF BOOKS ALL STILL ON SHELVES.

THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING THERE.

I DON'T KNOW.

HE'S WORKING ON.

HE SAID Y'ALL, THERE'S GONNA BE A STICKER SHOCK ON WHAT, WHAT COST TO DESIGN THE ELECTRICAL AND THE C AND THE WHATEVER.

WHEN ARE THEY GOING GET THE AC V P LOOK WHAT THEY, WELL THAT'S SIGN SIDE.

GO TO WHERE, SO WE KNOW ABOUT SPACE.

I MEAN OFFICES VERSUS CUBICLES AND BECAUSE THESE, THESE DETERMINE H V A C NEEDS BASED OFF OFFICE SPACE.

YOU KNOW, CUBICLES NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL.

'CAUSE YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE OPEN AIR.

YOU KNOW WHAT I, THESE ARE CLOSED OFF SO THAT'S WHY THEY'VE BEEN WAITING ON FOR US TO SURE.

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ALL THING WE REALLY NEED THEN IS DETERMINE WE'RE EITHER HERE AT THE TOP, LOOKS LIKE TO ME.

SO WE NEED TO GO OVER THERE AND WE NEED TO TAKE MEASURE, GO WHERE DRAWINGS AND SEE WHAT'S GOING TO FIT.

WE DON'T BE CRAMPED BECAUSE THE BIGGER YOU GET THAN IF YOU'RE CRAMPED IN YOU TO MAKE SURE LEAST, LEAST BIT.

WHY IS THIS LITTLE IT WOULD NEED.

BUT THEN FIT EXACTLY LIKE WE BUILT HERE.

YEAH, I THINK SO.

BUT REMEMBER WE'RE ALL WORRIED ABOUT 10 YEARS FROM NOW.

EXACTLY.

GONNA BE, THIS WON'T FIT 10 YEARS FROM NOW.

NO, I HAVEN'T.

YEAH, WE'RE ALREADY ADDING SPACE.

THAT NEW JUST CENTER SAMPLE ON THERE.

I FIGURED THAT'S GONNA BE A TIGHT COURTROOM.

IT'S GONNA BE A VERY, VERY TIGHT.

IT REMINDS ME BACK UP THE OLD ONE THAT USED TO BE RIGHT HERE.

THAT WAS TIGHT.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT THAT MM-HMM.

THIS, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY NO, IT WAS RIGHT HERE.

WHERE THIS YES, THAT WAS THE OLD COURTROOM.

YEAH, THAT WAS JUST WITH OUR OKAY, WELL LET'S GO AHEAD AND JUST PLAN ON GOING NUMBER TWO AND LEAVE THIS WITH ORIGINAL.

DO ONE WITH OUR REGULAR UNIFORM.

YEAH, I THINK THERE'S QUITE A HAVE Y'ALL 10 TO GO HERE? THAT'S GONNA STAY LIBRARY.

SHUT THAT DOOR THERE.

THESE DOORS.

SO IT'S NOT THAT FAR.

WE JUST WALK RIGHT THERE.

WHAT DOES THAT DO TO THE COMMISSIONER BEING RIGHT? NO, HE CAN STAY THERE.

YES IT IS.

WE KNOW WE CAN SQUAT THAT DOOR THERE.

IT'S GONNA BE CITY EITHER WAY.

IT'S LIKE A 30 MAN.

IS IT REALLY THAT MUCH BIGGER? YEAH, PRETTY.

YOU'RE ALL THE WAY UP TO THE BACK OF THE ELEVATOR.

YOU'RE ALL THE WAY TO THE BACK OF THE ELEVATOR DOWN HERE.

SO IT'S ALMOST DOUBLE I THINK WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT TOO.

IT UP GO UPSTAIRS.

BUT YOU CAN ALSO CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS WANT HAVE MEETINGS THERE OR YEAH, WELL IT COULD BE OPEN ENROLLMENT OR SOMETHING THERE.

MOTEL USE.

WE NEED ONE OF THOSE.

GRANDSON, WE WENT TO THAT MEETING AND UH, WHERE WAS IT? UH, COUSIN WENT TO THAT CONFERENCE.

CHES, THAT WAS A BIG MEETING ROOM THERE.

WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT THAT WAS, THAT WAS NICE.

SO IT'D BE LIKE JUST A CENTER WHERE YOU GOT A COURTROOM BEFORE SPECIAL EVENT.

SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND PLAN ON US GOING NUMBER TWO THEN.

YES SIR.

GET SOME MEASUREMENTS.

SO WE'RE GONNA LEAVE.

WE'RE GONNA LEAVE IT ONE LIKE IT, LIKE IT SAID, LEAVE ONE LIKE IT IS.

YES SIR.

YOU WANNA LEAVE IT AS A FUNCTIONING COURTROOM? YES.

OR DO YOU WANT, ARE YOU OPENING THIS DOOR BACK UP OR? I SEE IT'S WALLED OFF HERE.

ARE YOU? WELL, WE GOTTA DRAW.

THERE'S A DOOR HERE.

I DIDN'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU WANTED.

IF YOU NEED TWO POINTS OF EXIT, THEY DON'T HAVE IT NOW.

THEY DON'T HAVE IT NOW, SO JUST LEAVE IT ALONE.

WE'LL, WE'LL WE'LL MEASURE THIS BACK OUT AND WE'LL JUST, WE'LL DRAW IT UP AND JUST COPY AND PASTE IT.

THE DESIGN.

, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THIS DESIGN WE GIVE A LOOK AT SOME ARCHITECTURE FOR YEAH, HE'S OKAY.

WORK ON THAT.

SO YOU GUYS SOMETHING? YEAH, WE'LL MEASURE THIS ROOM OUT AND THEN WE'LL MAKE SURE THIS BY THE END OF THE WEEK, ONE OF THE OLD SOUTHERN COURTROOMS, YOU KNOW WITH THE CEILING FANS AND EVERYTHING IS, THEY GOT CEILING FANS ALREADY IN THERE.

YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT DUDE ON, THEY CHANGE 'EM OUT.

MAKE IT LOOK NICE.

THERE IT IS.

THOSE CEILING FANS WE REPLACED.

YEAH THOUGH , THEY'RE NOT THE OLD SOUTHERN STYLE, OLD SOUTHERN STYLE.

DON'T MAKE IT LOOK RIGHT IT TO MAKE IT LOOK RIGHT.

WE DON'T HAVE TO GET THE WAGON, YOU KNOW, LINEN SUITS, YOU KNOW.

OH WE ARE GETTING UNIFORM, WE ARE GETTING THOSE.

DARN WE.