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I'D LIKE TO WELCOME[Call to Order]
EVERYONE TO OUR REGULAR COMMISSIONER'S COURT THIS MORNING.UH, WE'RE GONNA BEGIN WITH A PRAYER BY COMMISSIONER BARBER AND THEN COMMISSIONER MORRIS WILL LEAD US INTO THE PLEDGES.
IF YOU WOULD ALL STAND, PLEASE PRAY WITH PLEASE.
HEAVENLY FATHER, I WANNA THANK YOU FOR THIS, UH, DAY AND WANNA THANK YOU FOR THIS NEW YEAR THAT WE'RE ALL LOOKING FORWARD TO.
AND WE'RE GONNA ASK, UH, THAT YOU PLEASE BLESS US IN THE COMING YEAR, AND, UH, HELP US TO GET EVERYTHING WORKED OUT AND THINGS DONE THAT WE NEED TO DO FOR THE COUNTY.
UH, ASK YOU TO PLEASE BE WITH OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND OUR MILITARY, AND PLEASE KEEP US ALL SAFE.
IN YOUR SON'S NAME WE PRAY, AMEN.
PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
FOR ALL HONOR, UNDER THE TEXAS FLAG, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE INDIVIDUAL.
WELL, I HOPE EVERYONE HAD GOOD HOLIDAY SEASON, AND AS WE START OFF A NEW YEAR, WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING ANOTHER PROSPEROUS YEAR AND A UNEVENTFUL YEAR.
SO, UH, NUMBER ONE IS ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE,
[1. ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.]
I THINK MR. UH, YES.HUNT HAS SOME STUFF I'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH EVERYBODY THAT WE HAVE OUR, WE'RE STARTING OUR MONTHLY CLEANUPS AGAIN THIS YEAR.
UH, THIS WE'RE IN JANUARY IS, UH, PRECINCT ONES.
IT SAYS 7 0 1 ALTON STREET, KAUFMAN.
IT'S JANUARY THE SIXTH FROM EIGHT TO FOUR.
UH, MATTRESSES, FURNITURE, APPLIANCES, TRASH AND RECYCLABLES, ALL FREE.
UH, NO CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS, NO DUMP TRAILERS, OR NO ENCLOSED TRAILERS.
AND I'D ALSO, I'D LIKE TO MENTION THAT, UH, WE'RE GONNA BE DEDICATING THE, UH, SHERIFF'S OFFICE SUBSTATION IN FORNEY.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE REALLY CAN'T SHARE WHAT ROAD IS ON 'CAUSE THEY HAVEN'T NAMED IT YET,
AND I THINK ON 5 48, THERE'S A SIGN THAT'LL BE UP.
YEAH, IT'S, UH, IT'S THE NEXT STREET PAST, UH, FALCON WAY BOULEVARD, GOING NORTH ON 5 48.
ALL TWO O'CLOCK RIGHT BY THE, MOSTLY SAY TWO O'CLOCK.
[2. CONSENT AGENDA]
AGENDA.LET'S SEE, ANYONE ELSE HAS ANY ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE? WE'RE GOOD.
I THINK I DID YOU HAVE FOUR ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? YES.
SHERIFF, I DID WANT TO CORRECT ONE THING ON YOUR CONSENT AGENDA.
THAT SHOULD BE ROBERT
SO OTHER THAN NUMBER C, CHANGE THE NAME FOR ROGER TO ROBERT.
MS. PHILLIPS MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.
I'LL SECOND MR. WE'LL MAKE SECOND.
I HAVEN'T SEEN MR. POLLSTER YET.
SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON DOWN TO NUMBER
[4. Shannon Roden: Discuss/Approve the Final Plat forSteele Subdivision Lots 1-4 Located on County Road 271 in Precinct 3.]
FOUR.MS. SHANNON RODEN, DISCUSS AND APPROVE THE FINAL PLAT FOR STEEL SUBDIVISION LOTS.
ONE THROUGH FOUR, LOCATED ON COUNTY ROAD 2 71 AT PRECINCT THREE.
GOOD MORNING, MONIQUE, YOU WANNA COME UP ALSO? EVERYONE.
SO STEEL SUBDIVISION IS, UH, NINE ACRES AND THE OWNER'S SPLITTING THAT INTO FOUR LOTS, RANGING FROM 1.55 TO 3.04 ACRES.
THIS HAS GONE THROUGH THE FINAL PLATT REVIEW PROCESS AND ALL OF THE REQUIRED DOCUMENTATION AND APPROVALS ARE SUBMITTED WITH THE AGENDA PACKET.
SO WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL TODAY.
ANY COMMENTS? UM, I'D LIKE TO TAKE THIS WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SUBDIVISIONS AND, UH, APPROVING PLATTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
UM, WE HAD SOME IN THE P THEY COME UP JUST ABOUT EVERY, EVERY WEEK WE HAVE A NEW SUBDIVISION'S BEING DEVELOPED, BUT WE HAVE, WE ALL HAVE TO MEET OUR DEVELOPMENTAL RURAL REGULATIONS, WHETHER THEY ARE, YOU'RE JUST BREAKING UP LAND AND YOU HAVE A ONE ACRE DEAL.
SO A LOT OF PEOPLE, A LOT OF THE PUBLIC, I'VE GOT A LOT OF COMMENTS WHEN WE DID THE PRELIMINARY PLAT ON A MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT, AND THEY TALK ABOUT NUMEROUS HOMES ON AN ACRE WHERE WE HAVE AN ACRE IN OUR PLATTS.
SO I, I GUESS IF WE HAVE SOME TIME TO, IF IT'S OKAY WITH THE COURT, UH, TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT OUR SUBDIVISION RULES AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY APPROVED AT THE STATE LEVEL, THE TCEQ THROUGH STATUTES THAT WERE ADOPTED BY THE LEGISLATURE, THAT KIND OF ROBBED SOME OF OUR LOCAL CONTROL OF OUR DEVELOPMENT.
I, I KNOW IT SOUNDS KIND OF LIKE A, A, A BIG DEAL, BUT I MEAN MAYBE YOU CAN KIND OF SIMPLIFY IT.
SO THE COUNTY HAS A ONE ACRE OF USABLE SPACE
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ORDINANCE BECAUSE OF ONSITE SEWAGE SYSTEMS. IF YOU ARE NOT PUTTING A SEWAGE SYSTEM IN YOUR BACKYARD AND MONITORING IT YOURSELF, THEN THAT ORDINANCE DOES NOT APPLY.SO THERE'S A VERY VAGUE DESCRIPTION.
EVERYBODY'S LIKE, OH, YOU DON'T HAVE AN ACRE.
THAT ONLY APPLIES IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO USE A SEPTIC SYSTEM IN THE BACKYARD BECAUSE UTILITIES ARE NOT BROUGHT TO THAT PROPERTY.
IT'S RURAL, IT DOESN'T HAVE UTILITIES OUT THERE.
DEVELOPERS WILL GO THROUGH TCEQ AND CREATE MUD DISTRICTS TO PROVIDE SOME OF THE NECESSITIES, THE UTILITIES, THE SEWAGE.
AND THEN OUR ORDINANCE DOES NOT APPLY TO THAT.
AND THEY ARE UNDER THE WATER CODE.
THEY GO THROUGH TCEQ AND THEY APPLY.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY LEGISLATION THAT SAYS WE CAN STOP THEM OR DENY THEM.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, EVERYTHING THAT IS IN OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS IS EVERYTHING LEGISLATIVELY WE CAN DO.
AND THAT'S LIMITED BEING IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA.
YOU KNOW, UH, THERE IS THAT RIGHT.
TO USE THE LAND THE WAY THEY WANT TO.
AND THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LIVING IN A CITY WHERE IT'S RULED AND AN UNINCORPORATED AREA WHERE IT'S NOT.
AND UNTIL LEGISLATION, PATCHES, PATCHES TO GIVE US, YOU KNOW, MORE AUTHORITY TO KIND OF HELP REGULATE WHERE YOU'RE GONNA PUT A MECHANIC SHOP.
YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE WE CAN'T EVEN DO ZONING.
SO WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF AUTHORITY.
EVERYTHING WE DO IS IN THAT BOOK OR THE ORDINANCES THAT LEGISLATION ALLOWS US TO DO.
AND THEN ONCE THEY MEET EVERYTHING THAT WE ASK THEM TO DO AS A COUNTY YES.
THEN YOU YOU HAVE TO APPROVE IT.
OR IT'S APPROVED BY OPERATION OF LAW.
AND I HAD TO DO THAT ONE TIME AND REFUND THEIR FEES.
AND WE STILL DIDN'T APPROVE IT.
AND THEN NOW WE'RE PAYING THE PRICE BECAUSE IT'S APPROVED ANYWAY, IN 30 DAYS, THEY GET TO APPROVE IT BY OPERATION OF LAW.
AND THEN I'VE GOTTA REFUND THE FEES THAT THEY PAID FOR THE EMPLOYEES TO DO THE WORK.
SO THERE IS REALLY NO GOOD SIDE TO THIS FOR ANY UNINCORPORATED AREA.
WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN WITH WHATEVER LEGISLATION WE CAN FIND.
AND THE ONLY THING WE CAN REALLY DO IS REQUEST PUBLIC HEARINGS THROUGH TCEQ FOR EACH STEP OF THEIR WAY.
AND THEN THE COMMUNITY CAN COME AND PROTEST OR GIVE THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT THE MUD DISTRICT, BUT IT'S STILL UP TO TCEQ, WHICH NORMALLY JUST RUBBER STAMPS EVERYTHING.
WELL, LEMME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
WHENEVER THERE'S A REPL, IN OTHER WORDS, WE COME BACK AND CUT UP A SUBDIVISION, WE HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
WE HAVE TO ALLOW, SEND OUT NOTICES TO ANYONE AFFECTED BY THAT SUBDIVISION AND THEY CAN COME HERE AND VOICE THEIR OPINION.
IF THAT DEVELOPER MET THOSE IN THE BOOK, THEIR OPINION CANNOT WEIGH A FACTOR IN HOW YOU GUYS DECIDE.
SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE, YEAH, COME TELL US.
BUT
AND SO I JUST NEED THAT UNDERSTANDING OUT THERE BECAUSE NOW SOME PEOPLE ARE CONFUSED OUT IN THE COUNTY.
I SAW SOME OF THE DIALOGUE THAT WAS GOING BACK AND FORTH ALL, ALL WEEK SINCE YOU GUYS APPROVED THE PRELIMINARY FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT.
BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE USING THE TERM CITY IN THEIR LANGUAGE.
CITIES HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE JURISDICTION ON BECAUSE THEY HAVE WATER PLANTS THAT THEY PROVIDE UTILITIES TO.
SO THEY HAVE SOME JURISDICTION TO SAY NO.
SO THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CITY TURNING DOWN A MUD AND THE COUNTY NOT BEING ABLE TO.
AND THAT IS WHERE ALL OF THE GRAY AREAS PEOPLE GET CONFUSED.
THE ETJ IS A VERY TRICKY AREA BECAUSE THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, BUT THEY'RE IN THE CITY'S ETJ THAT IS A IMAGINARY BUBBLE AROUND THEIR CITY.
IT'S STILL UNINCORPORATED UNTIL IT'S ANNEXED IN.
SO SOME OF THESE TERMS AND THINGS THAT THEY HEAR, IT'S JUST THAT THEY'RE NOT QUITE SURE AND ALL OF THAT.
IF THEY NEED SOME INFORMATION.
TCEQ HAS A VERY BIG, UM, UH, REFERENCE MATERIAL ON HOW TO BREAK DOWN SUDS, MUDS, PUDS, WHAT THEY DO AND WHAT THEY, AND WHAT CODES THEY FOLLOW AND WHAT LEGISLATION IF THEY NEED ANYMORE.
I KNOW WITH, AND ALSO WE USE A LOT OF ACRONYMS AND WE DO TCQ STANDS FOR WHAT? FOR THE PUBLIC.
TEXAS ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY SERVICES.
TEXAS COMMISSION, ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY,
AND, AND TO GIVE, THROW ME UNDER THE BUS ON THAT ONE.
AND TO GIVE THE PUBLIC AN EXAMPLE.
IF THAT'S, IF YOU WANT TO KNOW IT.
SO ANYWAY, SO IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF, UM, BUT THERE IS A LOT OF INFORMATION THERE.
IF YOU GO TO WATER DISTRICTS, THEY WILL ACTUALLY, YOU CAN READ THIS, YOU CAN GET AN ENTIRE PAMPHLET ON A GENERAL GUIDE TO IT.
WHAT RULES THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW, WHAT RULES CAN OR CAN'T BE ENFORCED.
AND YOU KNOW, EVEN CITIES, JUST TO CLARIFY, EVEN IF THEY SAY NO, THEY HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TO SAY WHY THEY'RE SAYING NO.
AND IT ALMOST HAS TO BE IN HEALTH SAFETY ISSUE TO THEIR POWER, THEIR WATER PLAN.
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DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH JURISDICTION TO SAY NO.WELL, AND ALSO THE WELL CAPACITY, THEY, AND THEY CAN CALM THEM DOWN FOR A CAPACITY.
I MEAN THEY, YOU KNOW WHAT, ESPECIALLY SEWER CAPACITY AND ALSO TECQ, YOU NEED TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THEY HAVE MORE THAN ONE MEETING.
THEY DON'T JUST APPROVE WATER PLANTS ON ONE.
THEY, THEY DIVIDE IT UP INTO DIFFERENT GROUPS.
AND SO WHEN YOU SHOW UP AT ONE, THERE'LL BE ANOTHER ONE FOR THE SEWER AND THERE'LL BE ANOTHER ONE FOR THE SEWER AND ANOTHER ONE FOR THE WATER AND ANOTHER ONE FOR THIS.
AND PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
AND THE, AND THEY WON'T EVEN TALK ABOUT THE OTHER SECTION WHILE YOU'RE THERE.
THEY SAY, WELL, WE'RE NOT HERE REPRESENTING THAT.
THAT BELONGS TO THE DEPARTMENT.
AND THEY WON'T OFFER UNLESS YOU ASK EITHER.
WELL, AND THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, MUD DISTRICTS THAT WERE CREATED A LONG TIME AGO.
LIKE, THEY WEREN'T EVEN HERE WHEN
THEY WERE ALREADY CREATED JUST NOT ACTIVATED RIGHT.
PRIOR TO, TO ANY OF THIS DEVELOPMENT COMING IN.
BUT CCEQ APPROVED APPROVED IT YEARS AGO AND THEN NOW THEY GOT THE INVESTORS TOGETHER.
SO NOW THEY'RE STARTING TO DO IT.
AND THEY DID GO BACK AND CHANGE SOME OF THE LEGISLATION WHEN THEY FIRST STARTED THEM.
THEY STARTED A FRESH WATER IN THE MUD DISTRICT AND THEY ALLOWED THEM TO JUST EXTEND THEM.
THEY GO SOMEWHERE ELSE THREE MILES AWAY OR FIVE MILES AWAY AND BUILD A SISTER ONE AND IT WORKS OFF THE SAME PERMIT.
BECAUSE THEY PUT IT IN THE PERMIT, I GUESS WHEN THEY WERE DOING IT.
AND PEOPLE DIDN'T EVEN CATCH THAT.
THEY DIDN'T EVEN UNDERSTAND THAT THEY, THEY HAVE TO READ EVERYTHING.
OH, IT'S, IT'S, IT IS, IT'S A NIGHTMARE.
IT THAT DEAL WITH STATE AND THEN YOU GOTTA COME TO LOCAL AND THE LOCAL IS JUST, IT'S WHAT IT IS.
NO PRESSURE NEEDS TO BE PUT ON THE LEGISL LEGISLATURE YEARS.
LET LOCAL GOVERNMENT HAVE CONTROL OVER WHAT HAPPENED IN THEIR COMMUNITY HELP.
BUT IT'S GOTTA COME FROM, YOU KNOW, UH, THE CITIZENS AS WELL.
THEY'VE GOTTA SAY, WE NEED, WE NEED HELP.
AND WE TRIED TO GET SOME HELP THIS TIME, BUT IT FAILED.
BECAUSE ACCORDING THEY DID PRESENT.
HE, HE TRIED TO HELP US, BUT IT DIDN'T.
DIDN'T MAKE IT VERY HARD TO GET PEOPLE TO SHOW UP.
AND YOU KNOW, PEOPLE NOWADAYS, THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T SHOW UP FOR MEETINGS.
SO, I MEAN, IF YOU DON'T SHOW UP AND YOU DON'T COMPLAIN AND YOU DON'T, AND THEN, AND THEN YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO COMPLAIN IF YOU'RE IN TECQ.
IF YOU, IF IT AFFECTS YOUR PROPERTY OR YOUR CORRECT.
YOUR, IN OTHER WORDS, THE GUY SIX MILES DOWN THE ROAD CAN'T COMPLAIN, ONLY THE NEIGHBORS CAN REALLY COMPLAIN.
MOST PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT EITHER.
YOU HAVE TO BE IN A CERTAIN DISTANCE TO HAVE A COMPLAINT.
YOU'D HAVE TO LEAVE IN THAT SUBDIVISION IN ORDER TO, AND ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I GUESS WE NEED TO GET IT APPROVED.
I'M SORRY IT TOOK SO LONG, BUT I JUST THAT'S OKAY.
I WANT TO CLARIFY THE DI THE, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT WE DO NORMALLY AND THEN THESE EXCEPTIONS THAT COME IN.
SINCE THE EXCEPTIONS ARE SO BIG THAT, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY MAKES AN IMPACT.
SO IT DOESN'T, WE DO SEARCH REGULARLY, DAILY BENCHMARKING WHAT'S PASSED.
SO WE CAN GET THOSE INTO OUR REGULATIONS SO WE CAN SOMEHOW, YOU KNOW, HELP THE UNINCORPORATED AREA WITH ALL KINDS OF THINGS.
'CAUSE IT IS THE WILD, WILD WEST IN SOME ASPECTS.
SO I NEED A MOTIONAL NUMBER FOUR.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
MR. THAT WAS ME MADE THAT MOTION.
MR. COMMISSIONER BARBARA MADE THE MOTION.
[5. Tommy Moore: Discuss/Consider taking all appropriate action pursuant to Local Government Code 81.022 and 81.023 to enforce the Subdivision and Land Use Regulations against Open Infra Fiber Internet Company.]
MOORE, UH, DISCUSS, CONSIDER TAKING ALL APPROPRIATE ACTION PURSUANT TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 81.022 AND 81.023 TO ENFORCE SUBDIVISION AND LAND USE REGULATIONS AGAINST OPEN INFRA FIBER INTERNET COMPANY.AND WE HAVE SOMEONE HERE TO SPEAK ALSO ON THIS ISSUE.
IT'S, UH, NANCY'S WANTING TO SPEAK.
COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE.
AND THEN MONIQUE'S WANTED TO SHARE.
AND STEVE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK AS WELL OR DO YOU WANT TO JUST WATCH
ALRIGHT, NANCY, GO AHEAD PLEASE.
I'M THE GENERAL MANAGER FOR ROSE HILLS SPECIAL UTILITY DISTRICT.
UH, WE WE'RE A SMALL WATER DISTRICT THAT SITS BETWEEN THE CITIES OF KAUFMAN AND TERRELL.
UM, I BELIEVE MS. HUNT IS, COMMISSIONER HUNT IS IN OUR, OUR AREA HERE.
HE HASN'T BEEN AFFECTED YET PERSONALLY, BUT I'M HERE TO HOPEFULLY HELP THAT SITUATION.
I WANNA SHARE MY CONCERN FOR WHAT WE HAVE SEEN SINCE OPEN INFRA HAS BEEN IN OUR AREA.
UM, WE HAVE BEEN HIT SEVEN TIMES SO FAR.
UM, I'VE HAD MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS WITH OPEN INFRA AND THEIR, UH, SUBCONTRACTORS.
NOTHING HAS HELPED TO THIS POINT THOUGH.
I WILL SAY I HAVE SEEN IMPROVEMENT LAST WEEK WHEN THEY STARTED WORKING THOUGH, THEY STARTED WORKING
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WITHOUT TELLING US AHEAD OF TIME THAT THEY WERE GOING TO START WORKING.SO THAT WAS ONE THING THAT I, WE MENTIONED IN THE MEETING THAT WE HAD WITH THEM THAT I ASKED SPECIFICALLY, COULD YOU PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU ARE GOING TO START WORKING? WE GOT A HEADS UP THAT SAME DAY.
I HAVE 35 LOCATES ON MY DESK THAT I HAVE TO DO THAT THEY HAVE PUT IN LAST WEEK.
THAT'S AN OVERWHELMING AMOUNT OF WORK FOR ANYBODY, FOR ANY CITY OF ANY SIZE.
'CAUSE WE DON'T HIRE JUST TO HAVE LOCATES DONE, BUT THEY PUT 'EM IN AND THEN 48 HOURS LATER, BECAUSE TEXAS 8 1 1 SAYS THEY CAN, THEY GO, THEY START DIGGING WITH LITTLE CARE FOR ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S IN THE GROUND.
THERE ARE PIPES IN THE GROUND THAT I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE THEY'RE, THEY'RE AT.
IT NEEDS SOME PROPER CARE, EITHER BY US AND THEM OR DEFINITELY BY THEM.
THEY'RE THE ONES RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING SURE THEY DON'T HIT ANYBODY.
THAT'S WHY IT'S CALLED DAMAGE PREVENTION.
THAT'S WHAT THEY NEED TO BE DOING, IS DAMAGE PREVENTION BY POTHOLING.
THEY SAY THEY'RE GONNA DO IT, BUT UP UNTIL THIS POINT, EVERYTHING THEY HAVE SAID THEY'RE GONNA DO, THEY HAVE NOT DONE.
SO I'M ASKING FOR SOME HELP FROM YOU GUYS TO GET THEM A, TO GET US A PLAN EITHER FOR US, FOR YOU GUYS, FOR WHOEVER.
NOT ONE THAT STARTS 48 HOURS FROM NOW.
AND THAT JUST, YOU KNOW, THEY START DRILLING.
I NEED A PLAN AND I NEED THEM TO TAKE CARE.
THEY'RE DEFINITELY DAMAGING WATER PIPE.
THAT'S A PUBLIC HEALTH RISK RIGHT THERE.
THEY, I UNDERSTAND FROM MONIQUE THEY'VE DAMAGED SEWER 'CAUSE THEY'VE HIT IT.
SO WHATEVER YOU GUYS CAN DO, WHATEVER IS WITHIN YOUR POWER, PLEASE HELP US SO THAT I DON'T WANT TO BE ANOTHER ELMO.
I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HAVE HEARD THAT STORY, BUT THEY HIT 'EM 28 TIMES EVERY TIME THEY'RE, WE GET HIT YOU, YOU CAN INTRODUCE CONTAMINANTS INTO THAT WATER.
I DON'T WANT PEOPLE GETTING SICK BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO TAKE THE PROPER CARE.
YOU KNOW, PLEASE, WHATEVER YOU CAN DO, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT AND MY CITIZENS WOULD APPRECIATE IT AS WELL.
MONIQUE, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD? PLEASE MA'AM? SO THE FIBER PERMITS COME THROUGH THE OFFICE.
UM, WE MET WITH, UM, WE CALLED A, WE HAD AN INFORMAL MEETING, UM, WITH DENNIS IN THE BEGINNING.
UM, HE TOOK OVER THE PROJECT RECENTLY, SO HE WAS NOT A PART OF THE ELMO GROUP.
SO WE WANTED TO START OFF AND HAVE A MEETING AND DISCUSS HOW THIS NEEDS TO LOOK.
UM, WE HAVE HAD COMPLAINTS, UM, SO THEY'RE NOT BURYING IT, UH, 36 LIKE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO, OR THEY'RE NOT TAKING CARE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE GETTING THEIR PERMITS BEFORE THEY GO DIGGING.
AND SO WE'VE HAD, WE CALLED A VERY LARGE MEETING EVEN WITH THE HEAD OF OPEN INFRA AND THEY ASSURED US THAT THEY WOULD TAKE MORE CAUTION AND CARE.
UM, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO OR PROPOSE, AND DENNIS, I WILL INCLUDE YOU IN THIS CONVERSATION, IS THAT, UM, GARRETT AND I WILL COME UP WITH A PROCESS ON HOW THIS IS GONNA GO.
SO THAT, AND THAT PROCESS HOPEFULLY WILL BE FOLLOWED OR WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THEIR PERMITS AND, AND MAYBE HOLD OFF ON SOME OF THOSE PERMITS BECAUSE THE PERMITS ARE COMING THROUGH US AND THEY'RE TELLING US THEY'RE BEARING IT THIS DEEP AND THEY'RE DOING THIS, BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING ACCORDING TO THE PERMIT.
SO WE'RE GOING TO SET A PROCESS ON HOW THAT'S GONNA LOOK, THE TIMEFRAME IN WHICH WE HAVE TO REVIEW THOSE PERMITS.
UM, YOU CAN'T TURN A PERMIT IN TODAY AND EXPECT IT'S COMING OUT TOMORROW.
YOU'RE NOT OUR ONLY CUSTOMER AND NOT OUR ONLY CLIENT.
SO WE DO HAVE 10 BUSINESS DAYS TO REVIEW THAT.
AND WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A PROCESS THAT GIVES THEM SOMETHING TO FOLLOW BECAUSE I HAVE YET TO SEE YOUR PROCESS.
YOU KNOW, I ASKED FOR IT LIKE, WHAT IS YOUR, WHAT IS YOUR PROCESS FOR YOUR COMPANY? LIKE, DO YOU GUYS, YOU GUYS SHOULD KNOW, I WOULD ASSUME 30 DAYS BEFORE YOU EVER HIT A ROAD.
'CAUSE YOU SHOULD HAVE PLANNED IT.
SO WE'RE GONNA COME UP WITH A PROCESS AND WORK CLOSELY WITH THEM TO SEE IF WE CAN'T GET ONE PROCESS NAILED DOWN THAT WE'RE WILLING TO FOLLOW BEFORE PUTTING THOSE PERMITS BACK ON THE AGENDA.
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ARE ARE Y'ALL INSTALLING STUFF TODAY? UH, NO.SO THE DAMAGE THEY'VE CAUSED, WHO HAS PAID FOR THAT DAMAGE? ARE WE, CAN YOU STEP UP TO THE MARK? I'M SURE THE COUNTY CLERK WOULD LOVE THAT.
WE STILL HAVE AN OUTSTANDING INVOICE FOR $7,500 THAT HAS NOT BEEN PAID.
COME ON UP TO NANCY TO THE PODIUM PLEASE.
SO ONE INVOICE HAS BEEN PAID, BUT THE SECOND INVOICE FOR 7,500 HAS NOT BEEN PAID YET.
IS THAT ON A 30 DAY TYPE FRAME OR WHAT YOUR EXPECTATIONS ARE? SHOULD THEY HAVE REIMBURSED THE WATER DEPARTMENT? THEY HAVEN'T.
EVEN THE FIRST INVOICE, THEY, THEY ASKED IF THEY COULD HAVE FOUR PAYMENTS.
THEY COULD MAKE FOUR PAYMENTS.
THEY HAVEN'T ASKED FOR ANYTHING.
I'M EXPECTING PAYMENT FOR SOMETHING.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T SAID YOU'VE GOT 10 DAYS TO GET IT PAID OR 30 DAYS TO GET IT PAID.
HOW OLD IS THIS? I'M WILLING TO WORK WITH HOW OLD IS THIS STATEMENT YOU'RE HOLDING TODAY? TWO WEEKS.
WOULD YOU, YOU COME UP AND IDENTIFY YOURSELF, NAME AND WHO YOU REPRESENT? STEVEN FOWLER.
UH, UH, TO THE MICROPHONE PLEASE.
UM, WHAT'S YOUR POSITION THERE PLEASE? UH, JACK OF ALL TRADES, UH, HEAD OF THE CONSTRUCTION OPERATIONS.
UM, IN REGARDS, SO I KNOW WE HAD THE MEETING LAST WEEK, UM, AND THERE WAS, THERE WAS A PAYMENT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP DURING THE MEETING THAT YOU SAID WAS PAID.
SO NOW THIS IS A, UH, AN ADDITIONAL ONE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR? YES.
THIS, THIS PAYMENT IS FOR THE SEVERE DAMAGE YOU DID ON COUNTY ROAD THREE.
IS THAT I WAS, I WAS UNDER THE, UH, IMPRESSION DURING THE MEETING THAT THAT WAS, THAT IT, IT SEEMED THAT IT WAS PAID UP AT THAT POINT.
SO NOW NO, THAT ONE WAS A MONTH OLD.
AND WAS GOT PAID RIGHT BEFORE THAT MEETING.
BUT THERE'S A, I SAID AT THAT MEETING THERE WAS AN OUTSTANDING BILL THAT NEEDS TO BE PAID.
I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
SO WE CAN, WE CAN DEFINITELY, UH, TAKE A LOOK AT THAT IF YOU'D LIKE TO EMAIL IT TO US OR, BUT UNLIKE HIS COMMENT, IT'S NOT OKAY TO CONTINUE HITTING US JUST BECAUSE YOU PAY THE BILL AND HE ACTUALLY, DENNIS MADE THAT COMMENT TO MY OFFICE PERSON AND IT'S NOT OKAY TO CONTINUE HITTING US JUST BECAUSE YOU PAY THE BILL.
THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.
SO LET'S, LET'S LOOK AT IT FROM THE, FROM THE COURT STANDPOINT.
SO YOU STOPPED OPERATIONS CURRENTLY? MM-HMM.
AND SO ARE WE TO TAKE THEN THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA DO ANYTHING MORE UNTIL YOU GET WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND GET EVERYTHING WORKED OUT BEFORE YOU START UP AGAIN WITH A PLAN.
NOT ONLY WITH THEM, BUT WITH THE WATER DEPARTMENT SO THEY KNOW WHERE YOU ARE.
WELL, WE DID, TO MY UNDERSTANDING, UH, YES, WE DID SEND, UH, A PLAN TO, TO EVERYONE.
DID YOU GUYS RECEIVE THAT EMAIL? YEAH.
AND I'M GONNA LAST WEEK MAKE, KIND OF MAKE A COMMENT ON THIS.
I WAS IN THE MEETING, UH, I THOUGHT THE MEETING WENT VERY WELL.
UH, I THOUGHT EVERYBODY, AND THERE'S SOME, SOME CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT THE OPEN INFRA SAID THEY'RE GOING TO DO.
WE DID, I DID RECEIVE A PLAN AND I, UH, UH, WHAT THEY'RE WANTING TO DO.
AND THEN ALSO MONIQUE'S TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER A PLAN.
UH, WE PASSED ON THE PERMITS, UH, ON THE LAST MEETING, UH, THE ONE BEFORE.
UH, SO AGAIN, UH, COMING HERE TODAY, I SET IT SCHEDULED TODAY 'CAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE WE WAS GONNA BE.
'CAUSE THE MEETING WAS PRETTY INTENSE.
YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S SAYING OPEN INFERENCE, DOING WHATEVER THEY WANT VERSUS NOT DOING RIGHT.
BUT SO FAR THEY DID SHUT DOWN THEIR OPERATIONS FOR, FOR TWO WEEKS.
NOW, I WILL SAY THIS, BY LAW WE ARE, WE CANNOT STOP UTILITIES.
OKAY? UH, WE CAN MAKE SURE THEY'RE DOING IT RIGHT.
THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS DEAL.
SO IT'S ONE OF 'EM THINGS THAT, SO WE'RE HAVING TO WORK WITH THE MEETING HERE OF WHAT STATE LAW TELLS US AND WHAT, UH, WE CAN LEGALLY DO.
AM I RIGHT, KAREN ON OR, UM, YES, YOU ARE RIGHT.
BUT, UM, I MEAN, AT A CERTAIN POINT, IF IT IS DAMAGING THE COUNTY, IF IT'S IT'S DAMAGING ROADS, INFRA SYSTEM, UM, YOU CAN'T HAVE ONE UTILITY DAMAGING ANOTHER UTILITY.
IT'S NOT LIKE ONE UTILITY HAS RIGHTS OVER ANOTHER.
SO IF YOU, IF IT'S NOT ABLE TO BE FIXED, YOU KNOW, YOU GET INTO A POINT WHERE THERE'S COURT ACTION, RESTRAINING ORDERS THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN.
SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT, I THINK, FOR BOTH SIDES TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT THE, UH, LAW IS FOLLOWED, THINGS ARE BURIED CORRECTLY, WATER LINES ARE NOT HIT BECAUSE THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUE AND EXPENSE.
SO IT'S, IT'S AN AREA WHERE YOU'RE REALLY DEALING WITH TWO UTILITIES, NOT ONE UTILITY.
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SO IT, IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE WORKED TOGETHER OR, YOU KNOW, OR, OR THEY'LL IT WON'T, IT WON'T GO AWAY.AND THE, AND THE CITIZENS DO, UM, WITH THE NEW FIBER, WHETHER IT'S THIS COMPANY OR ANOTHER ONE, THEY WANT THE HIGH SPEED INTERNET STUFF.
THEY WANT THE MODERN STUFF COMING.
THE RESIDENTS DO WANT THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, SERVICE.
SO WHAT I WANTED TO DO IN THE COMING NEXT COUPLE WEEKS IS HAVE THE MEETING WE HAD AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN ALL COME TOGETHER AND MAKE THIS BE A GOOD THING FOR THE CITIZENS COMAN COUNTY.
GOOD FOR THE SAFETY OF COMAN COUNTY AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO, BEING THAT WE HAD THE MEETING A WEEK AGO, I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO MAKE A DECISION TODAY SAYING NO OR YES, THE PERMITS THAT WAS PASSED LAST WEEK, I PUT 'EM BACK ON NEXT WEEK AND WE WILL GET THIS.
'CAUSE I WANNA SEE WHAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO DO.
AND THAT'S IN PRECINCT FOUR, THOSE PERMITS.
SO ANYWAYS, SO THAT YOU GUYS KEEP WORKING, BUT I WON'T ALSO ALL OF US GET TOGETHER AND, OR YOU GET A PLAN THAT WE ALL WORK TOGETHER TO GET THIS DONE.
IT'S SAFE AND EVERYTHING'S GOING GOOD.
SO, UH, UH, ARE Y'ALL, ARE YOU GONNA ASK ANYTHING ELSE, JUDGE, ON THIS OR? WELL, YEAH.
SO YOU'RE GONNA CEASE UNTIL AT LEAST NEXT WEEK UNTIL I GET ALL THE PLANS.
Y'ALL HAVE YOUR MEETING, IS IT SET UP? DO YOU HAVE A MEETING SET? WELL, THERE, WELL, UH, MONIQUE, UH, WAS GOING GET WITH THEM THIS MORNING AND SHE WAS GONNA BRING A PLAN NEXT WEEK TO COURT TO SAY, HEY, HERE'S WHAT WE EXPECT.
AND THEN, THEN I'M, I'M HOPING THAT BOTH OF YOU'LL BE COMMUNICATING THIS WEEK SO THAT YOU GET THAT DONE IN ONE WEEK.
WELL, I'M, UH, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS I'D LIKE TO TABLE THIS FOR TWO WEEKS SO THAT WE HAVE PERMITS APPROVED, GIVE THEM THE WEEK TO SHOW HERE'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.
EVERYBODY'S WORKING TOGETHER WELL AND THAT IT'S, UH, FOR, YOU KNOW, THE SERVICE FOR THE COMMUNITY AND SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
I THINK A WEEK OUT IS, IS TOO SOON TO JUST MAKE A CALL ON THIS YET.
'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY THAT MUCH INFORMATION.
SO IS THAT FAIR TO YOU GUYS? TO LET'S SEE IF WE CAN ALL WORK TOGETHER AND ABSOLUTELY.
MEET THE MAIN OBJECTIVE OF SERVICE AND SAFETY.
UM, AT TWO WEEKS IS TWO WEEKS IS KIND OF, IT IS A LITTLE ROUGH FOR US.
UM, I WAS HOPING THAT WE COULD, WE COULD COMMUNICATE AND, AND GET A PLAN GOING.
UM, WE DID SEND ONE ON WEDNESDAY THE 27TH WAS WHEN WE SENT WHEN DID YOU, DID YOU HAPPEN TO SEE THAT? NO, I WAS ON VACATION.
UM, WE DID SEND, I JUST FOR THE RECORD, JUST JUST WANNA SAY A QUICK SUMMARY OF WHAT IT, UH, WHAT WE WENT OVER, WHICH WAS THAT THERE WOULD BE A DAILY EMAIL OF THE STREETS THAT WE WERE WORKING ON, WHICH I KNOW YOU REQUESTED.
WE JUST NEEDED A DISTRIBUTION LIST FOR THAT.
AND, UH, WE'D BE HAPPY TO SEND THAT OUT.
UM, THAT WE WOULD HAVE A SUPERVISOR ON SITE THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS, UH, REQUESTED.
UM, AND THAT WOULD HAPPEN AT EVERY SITE.
WE WOULD HAVE, UH, SOMEBODY FROM OPEN INFRA TO REPRESENT AND BE ON SITE WITH THE SUBCONTRACTOR.
UM, WE PROVIDED AN ESCALATION PATTERN FROM WITHIN, UH, OPEN INFRA OF DENNIS, MYSELF AND OUR COO CHRIS, UH, AS WELL AS OUR CEO CARL, WITH ALL THEIR CONTACT INFORMATION, PHONE NUMBERS, UH, EMAILS.
UH, WE AGREED THAT WE WOULD, UH, TAKE DEPTH PICTURES, UH, ALONG THE, THE BORING LINES, UM, TO SHOW THE ACTUAL DEPTH THAT WERE, THAT WERE BORING AT, WHETHER IT BE FROM AN OPEN PIT OR, UM, THE LOCATING UNIT OF THE DRILL, UH, UNDERGROUND OR COMBINATION OF BOTH.
UM, WHATEVER, WHATEVER YOU GOT.
I MEAN, WILLING TO WORK WITH YOU HOWEVER YOU WANTED TO SEE THAT.
UM, AND THEN I KNOW NANCY, YOU WERE GOING TO AS WELL SEND A, UM, NOT A SCREENSHOT, BUT A, A MAP SO THAT WE COULD TELL YOU I DID SEND THAT TO HUNT, UH, TO MONIQUE, BUT I DIDN'T SEND IT TO YOU GUYS YET.
AND THEN THAT WAY, BECAUSE WE WANTED TO OBVIOUSLY COORDINATE WITH YOU TO SEE EXACTLY WHERE WE WOULD BE OVERLAPPING YOU SO THAT WE CAN MAKE A PLAN OF NOT TO, YOU KNOW, BE TOO SPEEDY, UM, TO GO AT A, AT A RATE THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO LOCATE AND, UM, THAT WE WOULDN'T BE.
SO WE COULD SPREAD OUT, YOU KNOW, OVER AGAIN, YOU, YOU NEED TO POTHOLE MM-HMM.
I KNOW IN THE CITY OF TERRELL THAT WILL HELP TERRE.
I'M, I'M, I'M A FORT WORTH BOY, MY BAD.
UM, I KNOW THAT DENNIS, WHEN THEY WERE WORKING THERE, UH, LAST WEEK WAS TAKING PICTURES OF THE POTHOLES.
HE WAS SENDING THEM TO OUR INTERNAL TEAM SHOWING, HEY, WE ARE POTHOLE HERE.
UH, YOU KNOW, GETTING THE, UH, THE PROCESS IN PLACE IF YOU WILL.
AND THAT'S THE IMPROVEMENT THAT I WAS SPEAKING ABOUT EARLIER.
AND I APPRECIATE THAT, THAT THAT WILL, THAT HELPS A LOT.
UH, THE, AND STEVE, I WAS GOING TO TELL YOU, THAT'S WHY I WAS TALKING ABOUT, LIKE, YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT ALL THE STUFF HADN'T BEEN GIVEN.
I KNOW WE HAD A MEETING LAST WEEK, BUT I WAS HOPING THE GOAL OF THIS ONE WAS IS TO WHETHER ARE WE WORKING TOGETHER? SO WHEN I SAY TWO WEEKS, I'LL PROVE, OR I'M, I CAN'T, BUT I'LL PUT IT ON THE AGENDA NEXT WEEK FOR THE COURT TO APPROVE THE
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PERMITS THAT WE PASSED ON.THAT WAY YOU CAN GET TO WORK ON THEM NEXT WEEK.
IN TWO WEEKS WE'RE GONNA COME BACK TO THE COURT, SAY, IS THERE, IS EVERYBODY WORKING TOGETHER? IS THERE A PLAN IN PLACE? AND THEN HOPEFULLY WE CAN MOVE ON FROM THAT.
HAS THE PROCESS BEEN FOLLOWED? YES.
HAS THE PROCESS BEEN FOLLOWED? IS THERE A PROCESS? AND, AND THAT GIVES US TIME TO EVALUATE WHETHER, YOU KNOW, I, I DID RECEIVE PICTURES OF A MEASURING TAPE IN THE, BUT IS THAT GOING TO CONTINUE NEXT WEEK AND THE WEEK AFTER? SURE.
SO I WANT TO JUST LET YOU GUYS WORK SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S FLOWING SMOOTHLY AND THEN HOPEFULLY WE GET PAST ALL THIS AND EVERYTHING BE GOOD.
YOU GOT ANYTHING ON THAT JUDGE? YOU WANT TO, I'M SORRY.
SO BASICALLY IS THAT, SO AS FAR AS FAR AS UH, THE APPROVED AREAS THAT WE'RE ALREADY IN, ARE WE, ARE WE LOOKING AT DOING LIKE A TEST SOME, A SMALL AMOUNT OF WORK TO KIND OF SEE THE PROCESS GO? OR ARE WE WANTING TO SIT DOWN AND MAP OUT SOMETHING FIRST? OR THERE WERE PROBABLY SEVEN ROADS THAT WERE ON THE LAST AGENDA.
SO THOSE SEVEN ROADS WILL BE BACK ON THE AGENDA ON TUESDAY.
SO THOSE SEVEN ROADS, IF THEY'RE APPROVED AND YOU GET THE PERMIT, THEN YOU CAN WORK ON THOSE SEVEN.
AND FOR, AND WE WANT TO USE THOSE SEVEN AS AN EXAMPLE OKAY.
OF WHETHER OR NOT THE PROCESS IS BEING FOLLOWED AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY DAMAGE.
AND AS FAR AS EXISTING, UH, THE EXISTING PERMITS WHERE WE STILL HAVE SOME AREAS LEFT, WE DIDN'T STOP THOUGH.
SO YOU CAN STILL WORK ON EXISTING PERMITS AS OKAY.
AND WE, AND WE DID, JUST SO EVERYBODY'S CLEAR, WE DID STOP IN THE EXISTING PERMITTED AREAS AS WELL.
AND HOPEFULLY THINGS ARE RUN SMOOTH AND THERE WILL BE GOOD COMMUNICATIONS AND THE LINES WOULD BE PUT.
'CAUSE I KNOW YEARS AGO, WASN'T YOUR COMPANY
THEY WERE THERE TO MAKE A DOLLAR.
BUT IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO MAINTAIN THE ROAD WHEN YOU'RE HITTING STUFF THAT SHOULDN'T BE THERE.
AND THEN IT MAKES OUR, THE CITIZENS REALLY MAD.
AND, AND AS A, I KNOW NOT EVERYBODY WAS AT OUR, OUR, OUR MEETING, BUT WE DID DISCUSS THE FACT THAT WE, WE ARE PRIVATELY FUNDED AND WE DO WANT TO BRING, UH, FIBER INFRASTRUCTURE TO RURAL COMMUNITIES.
WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, WELL I WON'T SPECIFICALLY NAME ANY BIG COMPANIES, BUT WE'RE NOT THOSE BIG COMPANIES.
UM, WE, WE DO WANT TO DO THINGS RIGHT.
SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO MAKING THIS BOOK.
I'M GONNA HAVE TO GO OUT THERE AND REPLACE IT IF WE TEAR IT UP.
SO Y'ALL SAID 36 INCHES, BUT IT'S 36 INCHES BELOW THE LOWEST DITCH LINE.
SO LET'S GET THAT CLEAR BECAUSE THEY'VE ACTUALLY RUN 'EM THROUGH OUR CULVERTS.
YOU GOT A FIBER OPRY LINE IN IT.
I'M GONNA GIVE YOU ABOUT 10 MINUTES TO GET IT OUTTA THE WAY OR ELSE I'M GONNA PULL IT OUT THE GROUND.
AND THAT STUFF'S GONNA CRACKLE ABOUT A QUARTER MILE EACH DIRECTION AND UH, 'CAUSE YOU DIDN'T PUT IT IN A PROPER PLACE.
I SEND A QUESTION ON SOMETHING, UH, ON THE PERMITTING PROCESS.
SO IF THEY DON'T FOLLOW THE PERMIT, OKAY.
IS THERE A FINE OR ANYTHING THAT WE CAN IMPOSE OR NOPE.
IT, IT'LL JUST, IT'LL COST US MILLIONS IN THE FUTURE THOUGH.
LIKE, LIKE YOU'RE SAYING, WHEN YOU GUYS IMPROVE YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE, CHANGE YOUR GRADE, YOUR DRAINS EXPAND YOUR ROADS.
I MEAN IT'S GONNA BE TERRIBLE FOR US.
THIS IS ANOTHER REASON WHY WE WANT TO DO IT CORRECTLY IN THE FIRST PLACE.
MONIQUE, YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? I DO WANNA ADD THAT UM, 'CAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE RIGHT OF WAY, BUT I WANT EVERYONE TO BE AWARE THAT THERE ARE ONSITE SEWAGE LATERAL LINES ON THESE PROPERTIES AND WHEN YOU RUN IT FROM THE BAR DITCH, YOU'RE RUNNING IT TO THE HOUSE.
SO PLEASE CHECK WITH THE HOMEOWNER TO FIND OUT WHERE THEIR LATERAL LINES ARE.
'CAUSE WE'VE CUT A LATERAL LINE RUNNING IT INTO THE PROPERTY.
SO, AND THE PERMITS ARE FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY, BUT THOSE HOMEOWNERS NEED TO FIND OUT WHERE THEIR SEPTIC IS AND THEIR SEPTIC LINES AND STAY AWAY FROM THAT.
WELL THE STATE LAW, THE STATE LAW DOESN'T GIVE 'EM THE RIDE ON THE PRIVATE PROPERTY UP THERE.
THEY HAVE TO, THEY HAVE TO BY LAW CHECK WITH THAT HOMEOWNER AND HE HAS TO IDENTIFY WHERE EVER THE HE'S REQUESTING THEM TO PUT THE LINE.
IF HE TOLD 'EM TO PUT IT THERE AND THEN RUN IN.
THIS IS WHY I'M TRYING TO PUT THAT OUT TO THE HOMEOWNER.
USUALLY IF YOU'RE GETTING FIBER, PLEASE FIND OUT WHERE YOUR LATERAL LINES ARE.
ALRIGHT, SO DO I HAVE A MOTION ON I WOULD LIKE MR. MOORE, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS AGENDA ITEM FOR TWO WEEKS AND COME BACK AND REVISIT EVERYTHING LOOKS GOOD.
WE WILL PASS ON IT OR WHATEVER.
I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MOORE TO HAVE A SECOND.
[6. Sherrif Beavers: Discuss/consider adopting Resolution to Enter into a Multiple-Use Agreement with the Texas Department of Transportation for the installation and operation of automated license plate recognition cameras.]
YOU'RE UP NEXT SIR.DISCUSS, CONSIDER ADOPTING RESOLUTION
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TO ENTER INTO, UH, MULTIPLE USE AGREEMENT WITH TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR THE INSTALLATION AND OPERATION OF AUTOMATIC LICENSE PLATES, RECOGNITION CAMERAS.ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS ANOTHER PROCESS WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO PUT THE FLAT CAMERA SYSTEM IN.
IT'S BEEN THROUGH LEGAL AND WE JUST HAVE TO GET TEXT DOT APPROVAL, THE ONES WE'RE PUTTING ON THEIR ROADWAY.
SO WE JUST NEED YOUR APPROVAL FOR THAT.
ANY QUESTIONS? NOT ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
UH, BEFORE WE GET TO YOU, MISS AUDITOR, LET'S GO BACK UP TO NUMBER
[3. John Polster: Discuss/Consider the approval of Interlocal Cooperation Agreement Amendment #1 between Kaufman County and the City of Terrell for the 2019 Terrell Projects in the amount of $2,000,000.00,]
THREE.THE REASON I WAS READING MY TEXT, DOMINGO IS NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO BE HERE BUT, UH, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF INTERLOCAL CORPORATION AGREEMENT AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE BETWEEN KAUFMAN COUNTY AND THE CITY OF TARRELL FOR THE 2019 TARRELL PROJECTS IN AMOUNT OF $2 MILLION.
WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS NOT AFFECTING THE THE DOLLARS.
THEY'RE JUST MOVING IT FROM ONE PROJECT TO ANOTHER.
THEY'VE HAD SOME THINGS COME UP THAT THEY CAN GET DONE NOW INSTEAD OF HAVING TO WAIT A GOOD WHILE FOR IT.
SO THEY'RE REQUESTING TO DO THAT.
UM, CHANGING THE MONEY AROUND SO THEY'RE DONE.
SO DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR THAT OR ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WELL, I MEAN, CAN WE GO BACK TO THE REASON WE TAPED IT LAST TIME? IT WAS BECAUSE WE WEREN'T GETTING OUR PAYMENTS RIGHT.
WAS THAT THE REASON THAT WAS THAT THE REASON WE TABLED IT? WELL, KIND KIND OF
I GAVE, I HAND-CARRIED A BILL TO THEM.
SO THEY HAVE THE BILL SO THEY'RE MOVING FORWARD.
IF WE GIVE 'EM $2 MILLION THEN I'LL BE ABLE TO PASS
MR. BARBARA MAKES A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.
SECOND, MR. PHILLIPS MAKE A SECOND.
[7. Auditor: Discuss/Consider line-item and budget transfers/corrections.]
AUDITOR, DISCUSS, CONSIDER LINE, ITEM AND BUDGET TRANSFERS.DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE LINE ITEM TRANSFERS THAT WERE SENT FOR YOUR REVIEW? LOOKED GOOD TO ME.
MR. PHELPS MAKES A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.
[8. Auditor: Discuss/Consider claims for payment and/or Financial Information as provided by the County Auditor.]
MR. AUDITOR, ONCE AGAIN, CONSIDER CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT OR FINANCIAL INFORMATION IS PROVIDED BY YOU, MS. AUDITOR.YOUR, UH, PAYMENT CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT ARE $2,335,053 AND 16 CENTS OF PAYROLL OF 1,000,920 $2,572 AND 4 CENTS.
TOTAL PAYOUT $4,257,625 AND 20 CENTS.
THOSE BILLS WERE SENT TO YOU FOR REVIEW.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DO NOT.
I DIDN'T ENTERTAIN A MOTION THE THEN TO APPROVE.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND MR. HUNT.
YOU COULDN'T DECIPHER WHICH ONE.
YEAH, THEY LOOK SO MUCH ALIKE, BUT THE JUDGE CALLED OUT MIKE
[9. Judge Allen: Discuss/Consider exiting regular meeting and enter Executive Session pursuant to Section §551.0725 of the Texas Government Code to discuss contract negotiations regarding the operation of the Pet Adoption Center and Humane Society of North Texas.]
NINE.DISCUSS AND CONSIDER EXITING REGULAR MEETING AND ENTER TO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 5 1 1 0 7 2 5 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE TO DISCUSS CONTRACT AND NEGOTIATIONS REGARDING THE OPERATIONS ADOPTION CENTER AND HUMANE SOCIETY OF NORTH TEXAS.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? I THE MOTION MR. MOORE MAKES THE MOTION.
I'VE ASKED, UH, MS. KAREN TO STAY FOR A MOMENT.
AND IRMA, WE'LL CALL YOU BACK IN, IN JUST A LITTLE BIT WHEN WE GET TO YOUR SECTION.
[12. Judge Allen: Discuss/Consider exiting executive session and enter back into regular meeting.]
BACK ON THE AIR.SO I NEED A MOTION TO COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION AND GO BACK INTO REGULAR SESSION.
MR. PHILLIPS MADE THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.
COMMISSIONER HUNT MAKES SECOND.
[13. Judge Allen: Discuss/Consider taking any action resulting in the executive session.]
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NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE, UH, CEDAR CREEK ANIMAL SHELTER.WE WILL, WE HAVE APPROVED ENTERING TO A CONTRACT WITH THEM TO TAKE CARE OF OUR OVERAGES IN EXCESS OF WHAT THE ADOPTION CENTER CANNOT HANDLE.
AND THIS WILL BE TO THE END OF THE PHYSICAL YEAR.
AND SO I NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT.
MR. MOORE MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.
MOTION CARRIES ALL NUMBER, UH, 10.
OUR FACILITY'S MAINTENANCE DIRECTOR.
IT'S THE, UH, COURT'S DESIRE THAT CASEY, IF YOU'D LIKE TO TAKE THAT POSITION, WE'D LOVE FOR YOU TO FILL BOBBY'S SPOT.
UH, YOU'RE NOT AS BIG AS BOBBY, BUT NO ONE'S AS MUCH AS BIG AS BOBBY
YOU'VE DONE, YOU'RE DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB.
AND WE'D LIKE TO SEE YOU TAKE THAT ON AS A PERMANENT POSITION.
NOW THAT WILL BE EFFECTIVE TODAY.
AND SO I NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT.
MR. PHILLIPS MAKES THAT MOTION.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
UH, NOW WE'RE DOWN TO NUMBER 13.
[14. Adjourn Meeting]
SOMEBODY'S FAVORITE.I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING.
MR. PHILLIPS MAKES THAT MOTION.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.