Jan 30, 2024 Commissioners Court

YES, AARON? GOOD MORNING, JUDGE.

GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS AND EVERYONE ELSE, UH, TODAY.

UH, WELL, I JUST WANNA FIRST START OUT BY, WE HAVE THE CORNERSTONE FOR THE JUSTICE CENTER WILL BE DONE THIS SATURDAY.

UH, ALSO, UH, TODAY IS A VERY SPECIAL DAY AND I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT TO EVERYONE'S ATTENTION.

UH, TODAY IS COMMISSIONER TERRY BARBER'S BIRTHDAY .

I HOPE TO GET THERE ONE DAY, BUT, UH, I JUST WANTED TO ANNOUNCE THAT.

AND I HAVE SOMETHING FOR HIM.

I, I DON'T LIKE TO MAKE HIM THINK THAT WE LIKE HIM, BUT HE'S ALL RIGHT.

AT A BOY, .

BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GIVE A THINGS, WHEN COURT YET SPLIT, THAT GOTTA SPLIT .

IT'S NOT RIGHT.

IT'S GONNA BE HARD TO SPLIT THROUGH.

WELL, YOU, YOU JUST HAVE TO CUT IT UP.

HEY, WE CAN DO IT.

WE CAN DO IT.

BACK TO WORK.

WE'LL MOVE ON

[2. CONSENT AGENDA]

TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

AND THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS WE NEED A LITTLE EXPLANATION ON HERE BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER ON ITEM B.

UH, IT'S APPOINTING KEVIN JOHNSON, BUT REAPPOINTING JOE REESE AND, AND, UH, ASHLEY KER TO THE SD NUMBER SEVEN FOR TWO YEARS.

AND ON NUMBER D, UH, THE INSTALLATION OF HOT WIRE COMMUNICATIONS, FIBER OPTICS ON COUNTY RIGHT OF WAY.

UH, LOCATED ALONG WINDY LANE IN HAMMONDS TRAIL.

COMMISSIONER HUNT IS GRINDING THAT UP AS OF TODAY.

SO WE NEED SOME COORDINATION WITH YOUR OFFICE AND THE FIBER COMPANY TO LET THEM KNOW GARRETT'S WORK AND GARRETT KNOWS GONNA WORK WITH THAT TO HOLD UP.

I'LL BE CONTACTING THEM, MAKING SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND.

WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WE DON'T GET ANY WIRES CROSSED THERE.

IS THAT A PUN? WIRES CROSSED .

ANYWAY, SO ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA OR EXPLANATIONS? IF NOT, I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT.

MR. PHELPS MAKES A MOTION.

MR. BARBARA MAKES A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

BEAVERS PRESENT AND ACCEPT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE MONTHLY REPORT FOR DECEMBER OF 23.

MOTION CARES.

SHERIFF

[3. Sheriff Beavers: Present/Accept the Sheriff's Office monthly report for December 2023.]

MORNING, SHERIFF.

GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS.

UH, JUST KIND OF OVERLAP THE THING WE DID.

I'LL ALSO GIVE YOU A END OF YEAR, UH, WITH THAT.

I HOPE Y'ALL GOT ALL THAT.

UH, AND OUR CIVIL PROCESS, YOU CAN SEE THAT IT HAS GONE UP QUITE A BIT.

UH, IF YOU CAN KINDA LOOK THE YEAR, NOTHING REALLY OUTTA THE ORDINARY.

THE ONE THING WE, YOU CAN SEE THAT INCIDENT REPORTS FOR DEPUTIES IS, HAS DROPPED OVER THE, COMPARED TO LAST YEAR AND ALSO OFFENSES, WHICH WE KNOW OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS OVERALL CRIME HAS DROPPED.

SO THAT'S A GOOD THING.

THE MEN AND WOMEN'S SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS WORKING REALLY HARD AND DILIGENT AND MAKING SURE WE'RE TRYING TO BE AS PROACTIVE WE POSSIBLY CAN.

YOU ALSO NOTICE THAT, UH, IN THE RECOVERY STUFF, UH, WE BROKE HISTORY THIS LAST YEAR OF, OF HITTING OVER $4 MILLION IN RECOVERY.

SO THEY DID A REALLY, REALLY GOOD JOB.

UH, 9 1 1 CALLS.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY'RE UP.

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AND THEN, UH, COMMERCIAL VEHICLES.

I'M PROUD TO SAY THAT WE FINALLY GOT EVERYBODY CERTIFIED AND DOING IT.

AND THEN THAT PROVES WHERE IT'S WENT OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.

'CAUSE WE KIND OF SLOWED DOWN LAST YEAR TRYING TO GET SOME PEOPLE MOVED AROUND.

WE GOT 'EM CERTIFIED.

IF YOU CAN SEE Y'ALL, WE ALMOST DOUBLED THAT.

WE WENT TO 1200.

SO THEY'RE REALLY DOING A GOOD JOB.

AND THEN WE HAD OVER, UH, $34,000 FOR DECEMBER AND OUR, UH, MONEY THAT WERE RECEIVED FROM BONDS, CIVIL AND ALL THAT, UH, YOU CAN SEE FAR AS THE END OF THE YEAR.

WE DID, UH, 811,149 AND 4 CENTS.

AND OVERALL IN THE FINANCES THROUGH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR THE YEAR.

AND THEN OVERALL, IF YOU'LL KINDA LOOK AT THE END OF YEAR STATS, YOU CAN SEE I WENT AHEAD AND DID THE PERCENTAGES OF WHAT'S DOWN, WHAT'S UP, WHERE YOU CAN SEE IT.

AND I THINK YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, OVERALL, EVEN THOUGH THE ANIMAL CONTROL, WE DIDN'T START TILL THEN, WE, WE ALMOST GOT CALLED IT, UH, DOING THAT.

SO THAT ANIMAL PATROL IS WORKING IN THAT CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE OVER THERE IS HELPING US HELPING.

OKAY, GOOD.

SO THAT'S HELPING US MOVE ALONG.

I HADN'T EVEN HAD A COMPLAINT, WHICH IS SHOCKING ON ANIMALS.

IT'S BECAUSE I WAS GETTING THEM PRETTY REGULAR.

THAT'S GOOD NEWS.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THE REST YOU CAN SEE NARCOTICS AND ALL THAT STUFF WAS, UH, DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

BUT THE WEIGHT AND ALL THAT, THEY DID A LOT BIGGER WEIGHTS THIS LAST YEAR THAN THEY DID ARREST.

AND THEN OUR PICKUPS, YOU NOTICE WE'RE UP BY 20% IN TEXAS PICKING UP THIS LAST YEAR.

UH, COMPARED, UH, AND ALSO IN THE STATE, I MEAN, IT'S UP QUITE A BIT.

SO WE'RE HAVING TO GO OUTTA STATE AND PICK UP QUITE A FEW.

SO OUR TRANSPORT DIVISION IS STAYING PRETTY BUSY AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GONNA STAY THAT WAY.

I WOULD ASSUME SO.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, ESPECIALLY MOVING JUVENILES FROM HERE AND THERE.

WELL WE KNOW THAT 'CAUSE WE'RE TAKING SOME OF 'EM EIGHT HOURS .

WE'RE, WE'RE STAYING A LITTLE BUSY, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA GET IT DONE IN WHATEVER'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COURTS AND THE JUVENILE SYSTEM.

WE NEED TO, SOME PEOPLE GOTTA BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS, SO WE DON'T MIND TAKING 'EM.

SO ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? I, I, YES.

NO, THIS IS THE RIGHT SPOT.

BUT NO, WE HAD DETENTION OFFICERS THAT WERE TAKING THE TRASH FOR A WHILE AND THEN COVID IT WAS GOING GOOD.

WE HAD A GOOD PROGRAM GOING AND COVID KIND OF SQUASHED IT AND THEN WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE RIGHT KIND OF INMATE THAT YOU COULD ACTUALLY PUT OUT ALREADY.

THAT'S BEEN, THEY'VE, THEY'VE DONE IT HERE AND THERE.

WE'VE BEEN, WE'RE DOING IT SPOTTY.

IT'S ONLY WHEN WE GET INMATES, BECAUSE LIKE I SAY, WITH THE CHANGE OF THE BAIL, UH, REFORM STUFF, A LOT MORE PEOPLE GETTING OUTTA JAIL, THEY'RE LOWER.

AND WE HAVE MAJOR FELONS AND I REFUSE TO PUT DANGEROUS FELONS OUT ON THE STREET TO BE PICKING UP TRASH TO BE WATCHING THEM.

SO AS WE GET THE INMATES THAT ARE LOW CLASS INMATES, WE'RE USING THEM TO PICK UP.

AND LIKE I SAY, IT'S SPOTTY.

I HATE TO SAY IT, IT'S SPOTTY, BUT UNTIL, UH, WE START GETTING SOME PEOPLE THAT CAN GO OUT THERE AND HELP US.

AND, UH, THAT'S ALL I CAN DO AT THIS POINT BECAUSE THAT, LIKE I SAY, I REFUSE TO JEOPARDIZE THE NO, THE GENERAL PUBLIC WITH HIGH RISK INMATES.

SURE.

GET IT.

WHEN THEY CHANGED BAIL, IT KIND OF CHANGED THE YEAH, THE BAIL REFORM CHANGED A LOT.

'CAUSE THEY'RE GETTING A LOT MORE PEOPLE OUT.

SO, AND, AND THEN YOU CAN'T HOLD PEOPLE THAT ARE INDIGENT AND THEY GOTTA GIVE 'EM PR BONDS.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF CHANGES TO THAT WHERE BEFORE WE HAD A LOT OF MORE YEAH.

INMATES TO PICK FROM.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER? ALL GOOD.

ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE.

ACCEPT HIS REPORT.

UH, COMMISSIONER MOORE MADE A MOTION.

DO YOU HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND.

COMMISSIONER NOT MAKES A SECOND.

UH, CONTINUE THAT RELATIONSHIP.

[4. Tommy Phillips: Present/Accept Commissioner's Quarterly Report for the Extension Office.]

FOUR, TOMMY PHILLIPS.

PRESENT AND ACCEPT COMMISSIONER'S QUARTER REPORT FOR THE EXTENSION OFFICE.

MORNING GUYS.

GOOD MORNING LADIES, JUDGE COMMISSIONERS, THANK Y'ALL FOR HAVING US AGAIN.

IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE IT'S TIME TO DO OUR QUARTERLY REPORT, BUT IT IS, UM, JUST KIND OF WANNA BRIEFLY JUST HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE DID FROM OCTOBER TO DECEMBER IN OUR OFFICE.

AND KATIE WISHES SHE COULD BE WITH US TODAY, BUT SHE IS AT A REGIONAL FCH RETREAT IN WACO.

AND I THINK THERE'S SIX DIFFERENT DISTRICTS THAT ARE ACTUALLY THERE TODAY.

AND SHE'S ONE OF THE COORDINATORS OF THAT.

SO, UH, SHE SENDS HER REGARDS, AND I'LL KIND OF GO OVER SOME OF HER STUFF.

BUT JUST TO KIND OF HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, TOOK PART IN AG AND NATURAL RESOURCES OVER THOSE THREE MONTHS.

OF COURSE, WE HELD OUR ANNUAL COUNTY HAY SHOW BACK IN OCTOBER.

IT WAS WELL RECEIVED, GREAT SPEAKER AND OUR BIG ANNUAL, UH, UH, PESTICIDE PROGRAM THAT WE DO IN MAYBANK EVERY YEAR.

UH, APPRECIATE, UH, MAYBANK FIRE DEPARTMENT AND, AND CHIEF, UH, MYRICK FOR LETTING US USE THAT FACILITY.

WE HAD ABOUT 150 AT THAT THIS YEAR.

UM, SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN DOING THERE FOR I GUESS 20 PLUS YEARS.

UH, AND IT'S BEEN A GREAT RELATIONSHIP THERE.

UH, BEEN VERY BUSY WITH OUR TEXAS COUNTY AGRICULTURAL AGENTS ASSOCIATION.

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UH, I GUESS THEY'RE REALLY HARD UP.

THEY NOMINATED ME TO BE THEIR INCOMING PRESIDENT.

UH, SO I'LL BE SERVING IN THAT ROLE UNFORTUNATELY FOR TWO YEARS NOW.

WE THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE, UH, FOR ONE, UH, BUT I'LL HAVE IT UNTIL JULY OF 25.

SO WITH THAT DUTY, THAT'S GONNA BE PRETTY BUSY TRYING TO COORDINATE OUR HELP, COORDINATE OUR NATIONAL MEETING IN JULY, AND THEN OUR STATE MEETING IN AUGUST, AND THEN HELPING WITH THE STATE MEETING THAT WE'LL HOST NEXT YEAR IN LUBBOCK.

SO, UH, SO THAT'S BEEN KEEPING ME PRETTY BUSY AS WELL.

SOME OTHER THINGS, YOU KNOW, WRAPPING UP OUR YEAR WITH OUR, OUR MASTER GARDENER PROGRAM, AND I APPRECIATE THOSE OF Y'ALL THAT CAME TO THE, OUR YEAR END, UH, BANQUET FOR THAT.

UH, WE JUST KICKSTARTED OUR, UH, INTERN CLASS A COUPLE WEEKS AGO FOR THIS YEAR.

VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

UH, SO GOT A GREAT GROUP.

IN FACT HAVE OUR, UH, PROGRAM TOMORROW, ANOTHER CLASS.

UH, SO VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

JUST KIND OF WANT TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF KATIE'S, UH, PROGRAMS THAT SHE DID FROM OCTOBER THROUGH DECEMBER.

OF COURSE, WALK ACROSS TEXAS, Y'ALL KNOW THAT WE, WE VERY HIGHLY RECOMMEND DOING THAT.

AND THEN THE COUNTY'S ALWAYS BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT AND, AND TAKES PART IN THAT.

BUT SHE WRAPPED IT UP, UH, WITH MONDAY ELEMENTARY.

AND THEN, UH, OP NORMAN, UH, JUNIOR HIGH.

UH, SOME REALLY GREAT RESULTS THERE.

DOING A LOT OF EDUCATION WITH DIABETES.

SHE JUST WRAPPED UP A SERIES HERE THE OTHER DAY, UH, BUT DID THIS BACK IN OCTOBER.

UM, AND THEN OF COURSE SHE'S REALLY, UH, BEEN REALLY INSTRUMENTAL, I THINK IN THE COUNTY EMPLOYEE WELLNESS PROGRAM.

UH, WE'VE ALL BEEN VERY, UM, ACTIVE IN OUR DISTRICT FOUR H CONTEST THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE THUS FAR.

OUR COUNTY, OUR OUR DISTRICT FOOD CHALLENGE WAS HELD BACK IN NOVEMBER.

UH, THEN CARRIE AND I TOOK PART IN OUR DISTRICT, UH, HORSE JUDGING.

THAT WAS LIKE THE NEXT DAY I THINK.

WE COLLECTED UP, UM, I THINK IT WAS 118 TOYS.

UH, SO WE GOT INUNDATED WITH FOUR H.

UH, ONE THING BEFORE I END TO LET CARRIE TAKE OVER, I DO WANT TO, I'VE GOT LITTLE GOODIES FOR Y'ALL TODAY.

UH, WE ARE OUR MASTER GARDEN CALENDARS.

YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN ONE OH YEAH.

OF Y'ALL.

SO I EXPECT TO SEE THESE IN YOUR OFFICE.

UH, , WE WERE VERY, VERY PLEASED WITH HOW THEY TURNED OUT.

UH, I WILL SAY THAT THEY DID A GREAT JOB SELLING THAT, BUT HATS OFF TO OUR SECRETARY.

SIN SMITH IS THE ONE THAT PUT THIS ALL TOGETHER THIS YEAR.

UH, IT WAS A LOT OF, A LOT OF HOURS, UH, A LOT OF HAIR PULLING.

UM, BUT SHE GOT IT PULLED OFF AND I THINK IT TURNED OUT EXTRAORDINARY THIS YEAR.

SO, WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, CARRIE, I KNOW YOU HAVE GOT A LOT OF STUFF 'CAUSE THOSE THREE MONTHS ARE EXTREMELY BUSY.

MAKE IT GOOD .

SO, UM, OCTOBER, UH, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER ESPECIALLY OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER ARE VERY BUSY FOR OUR FOUR H UH, FAMILIES BECAUSE A, WE HAVE ALL THE STOCK SHOWS GOING ON AND, BUT ALSO WE HAVE SEVERAL OF THE DIFFERENT, UH, FOOD CHALLENGE AND SOME OF THE OTHER DIFFERENT FOUR H CONTESTS.

UM, BUT ALSO WITH THAT, WE STARTED OFF, AS I SAID IN THE LAST REPORT, WE STARTED OFF A NEW ADVENTURE.

UM, WE HAVE TWO, UH, LEADERS THAT HAVE PICKED UP.

UH, WHEN I WAS DOWN AT THE STATE FOUR H MEETING, WE'RE DOING THE QUILT OF VALOR.

IT HAS BEEN A GREAT JOY TO WATCH THE KIDS SEW, UM, AND WATCH 'EM GET THAT DONE.

AND WATCHING THEIR FACES WHEN THEY ACTUALLY SEE THE TOPPER AND THE BOTTOM GET TOGETHER AND PIECING IT TOGETHER.

UM, MY TWO LEADERS HAVE NOW OVERZEALOUSLY WENT AND BOOKED A ALL DAY EVENT AT SOME WALKS OF HATCHY QUILTING PLACE THAT WE CAN FINISH UP THE ATLAS.

'CAUSE I DIDN'T REALIZE WE HAVE EIGHT QUILTS THAT NEED TO BE PUT TOGETHER.

WOW.

THEY HAVE A GOAL OF 16.

SO WE HAVE 12 DONE.

THEY HAVE FOUR LEFT TO GO.

SO I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

UM, PLUS ALSO WE'VE BEEN COOKING.

UM, THE KIDS ARE REALLY EXCITED TRYING TO PREPARE 'EM FOR COLLEGE, HOW TO MAKE A MEAL OUT OF A COFFEE CUP.

THAT'S BEEN OUR BIG THING RIGHT NOW.

SO WE'VE BEEN HAVING A GREAT TIME WITH THAT.

BUT WITH THAT ALL SAID, LAST YEAR WE DID VALIDATE INTO COFFMAN COUNTY, 92 GOATS, 78 LAMBS, AND 102 HEIFERS THAT CAN BE SHOWN THIS, UH, FALL.

THE 102 HEIFERS, THOSE ARE HEIFERS THAT ARE ELIGIBLE TO SHOW FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS, UM, EXCEPT FOR FORT WORTH.

UM, 'CAUSE THEY DON'T WANNA HAVE CALVES AT FORT WORTH.

UM, SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

IT LOOKS LIKE THIS NEXT YEAR TALKING TO THE FFA ADVISORS, WE'RE GONNA BE VALIDATING ANYMORE THEY'RE GROWING THEIR PROGRAM.

SO I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

AND SO, UH, NEXT YEAR WE SHOULD SEE EVEN A BIGGER SHOWING OF, UH, LIVESTOCK WHEN WE GO INTO THE MAJOR STOCK SHOWS.

UM, WE DID HAVE A COUPLE KIDS MAKE SALES, UM, BUT ALSO THAT, UH, IN NOVEMBER WE HAD THE WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY WORKING WITH TOMMY THAT DIDN'T SHOW UP BECAUSE HE WAS SICK ANYWAYS.

UH, WE HAD A SAFE, UH, SAFETY DAY AT SCURRY ROSSER.

A GOOD TIME WAS HELD BY ALL, UM, IN THE POURING DOWN RAIN.

UM, I DID THE ANIMAL SAFETY OUTSIDE IN THE RAIN AND WAS VERY THANKFUL THAT MY 4-YEAR-OLD HORSE WAS WILLING TO STAND STILL WITH 200 KIDS LOOKING AT HIM IN THE POURING DOWN RING.

UM, OTHER THAN THAT, UH, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE JUST GETTING READY TO WRAP IN, UH, THE DISTRICT FOUR.

I'M THE ADVISOR FOR THE DISTRICT FOUR COUNCIL THIS YEAR.

SO I GET TO HELP THEM WITH THEIR MAJOR DECISIONS ON TRYING TO PLAN OUT OUR LEADERSHIP LAB IN THE, IN THE SUMMER.

BUT ALSO WE DID A RONALD MCDONALD HOUSE WHERE THE DISTRICT 4 22 COUNTIES,

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AND WE WENT OVER AND DID A CRAFT DAY WITH THE KIDS AT RONALD MCDONALD HOUSE.

SO IT WAS A GOOD TIME.

AND SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, CURRICULUM ENRICHMENT IS ON THE ROLL AND WE'RE ROCKING AND ROLLING IT.

AND WE HAVE THREE PROGRAM ASSISTANTS AND RIGHT NOW SITTING IN THE STATE, WE'RE SITTING NUMBER ONE IN THE STATE FOR CURRICULUM ENRICHMENT.

SO I'M VERY THANKFUL FOR THE THREE PROGRAM ASSISTANTS.

WELL, IT'S ALSO JACKIE IS MY GO-TO PERSON WHEN IT COMES TO KEEPING ME KNOWING WHICH DIRECTION I'M SUPPOSED TO TURN EITHER LEFT OR RIGHT WHEN I GO OUT THE DRIVEWAY.

SO IF IT WASN'T FOR HER, I WOULDN'T GET NEAR THIS DONE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW SHE'S BUSY TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH ALL THE SCHOOL RENT.

ALL SCHOOL OUTTA SCHOOL.

UM, NOT TO MENTION MY STUFF.

YEAH, YEAH.

AND YOUR STUFF TOO.

UM, SO WITH THAT SAID, UH, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? UM, I PUT IN LOTS OF PICTURES SO YOU GUYS CAN KIND OF SEE WHAT WE'RE DOING.

I DO.

UH, THIS MAY BE MORE FOR YOU TOMMY.

THE MASTER GARDENERS.

WE HAVE SEVERAL FLOWERBEDS JUSTICE CENTER.

NEED SOME TLC.

IS THAT A PROJECT YOU THINK THEY MIGHT TAKE ON? OR MAYBE OR FOUR H LEADERSHIP COUNCIL? IT COULD BE.

AND I DON'T, AND I DON'T WANNA SOUND WRONG IN THAT OUR GOAL WITH MASTER GARDENERS IN, IN OUR COUNTY, IN ANY COUNTY IS, WE'RE NOT A LANDSCAPING, BUT WE CAN GO IN AND GIVE ADVICE AND HELP WITH INITIAL PLANTING AND, AND, AND A SCHEME.

WE'RE ACTUALLY, UM, HELPING THE CITY OF COMBINE WITH THEIR, THEIR CITY HALL THAT WAS BUILT, WHAT, A YEAR OR TWO AGO? YEAH.

THEY CONTACTED ME BACK AT LATE, UH, EARLY IN THE FALL ABOUT TRYING TO REDO IT.

'CAUSE IT'S VERY, IT'S A NICE BUILDING, BUT THE LANDSCAPING IS JUST VANILLA.

IT'S VERY PLAIN.

SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IN AN INTERN CLASS THIS YEAR, THEY'RE TAKING IT ON AS A PROJECT IN A TWO STAGE DEAL.

SO WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS THEY'RE TAKING, UH, THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDING AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA BREAK INTO FOUR DIFFERENT GROUPS AND SUBMIT THEIR PLANS TO THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, IN THE SUMMER AND SEE WHICH ONE THEY LIKE.

AND THEN WE'LL GO IN AND ACTUALLY DO THE INITIAL PLANTING.

AND THEN AFTER THAT IT'S ON THEM.

'CAUSE Y'ALL KNOW, MY MASTER GARDENERS ARE, MOST OF THEM ARE RETIRED.

UH, VERY FEW ARE, YOU KNOW, MINE AND CARRIE'S AGE OR, OR, OR EVEN YOUNGER.

THEY DON'T HAVE THE TIME OR THE, THE ENERGY TO DO THAT.

BUT IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DEFINITELY HELP WITH, MAYBE WOULD YOU NEED THE HELP? ABSOLUTELY.

WOULD BE YES.

WOULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL.

SURE.

ABSOLUTELY.

UH, YEAH.

AND ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE SURE.

UH, WOULD BE APPRECIATED.

ABSOLUTELY.

WE CAN DEFINITELY.

RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST REALLY UGLY .

I UNDERSTAND.

YOU KNOW? YEAH.

INITIAL PLANNINGS ON BUILDINGS ARE USUALLY PRETTY PLAIN.

IT IS WHAT IT IS.

THE LAST THING IS, IS AT THE END OF THIS MONTH, IS THE COUNTY FAIR? UH, JUST REMIND YOU ALL THAT.

IT IS A MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY COUNTY FAIR.

OUR SALE IS ON FRIDAY.

SO, UM, BRING YOUR MONEY.

'CAUSE WE HAVE LOTS OF FOUR H AND FFA KIDDOS THAT NEED HELP WITH THEIR PROJECTS THIS YEAR.

UM, BUT, UH, JUST WANNA REMIND Y'ALL THAT THAT IS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

UH, WE MOVE IN OUR CREATIVE TALENTS ON THE THURSDAY BEFORE THAT.

SO, AND THE DATES, UM, FRIDAY.

SO LAST MONDAY, THURSDAY, MONDAY, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY, FRIDAY, THURSDAY OF FEBRUARY.

AND THE FIRST DAY OF MARCH.

'CAUSE IT WILL, IT'LL HITCH THE SAME TIME THE GILTS GO INTO HOUSTON.

THAT'S WHY THEY COULDN'T.

'CAUSE MY BREEDING CHEAP AND MY BREEDING GILTS CAN'T GO TO COUNTY FAIR BECAUSE IT'S ON THE SAME TIME AS HOUSTON.

GOOD.

IF THERE, IF THERE'S ANY OUTSIDE AND GETTING BACK TO THAT, IF THERE'S ANY OUTSIDE PLANS OR, OR A SCHEME THAT WE CAN, I CAN SHOW MY MASTER GARDENERS THAT CAN START GETTING SOME IDEAS.

WELL, I THINK IT WITH CASEY 'CAUSE WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A SCHEME.

SO ONE NEEDS TO BE DRAWN UP AS SOMETHING THAT'S, UH, DROUGHT TOLERANT.

WELL, YEAH.

EASY CARE.

THE TERM IS EARTH KIND.

S***T WON'T SO ASTROTURF, SO THAT'S OKAY WITH ME TOO.

SOMETHING, SOMETHING EASY TO TAKE CARE OF.

, YOU KNOW, ALL THE STOCK SHOWS ARE MOVING TO ASTROTURF FOR THE SHOW ARENA, SO I KNOW.

I, I HEY, SO IF, IF WE COULD GREEN YEAR ROUND, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT.

WE COULD, WE COULD PUT A TER ON YOU AND SHOW YOU INTO, I JUST KNOW A CITY HALL THAT'S HEADING THAT WAY THAT WHEN THEY REDID THEIR BUILDING, IT'S ALL ROCK.

THERE'S NOTHING AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT VANILLA.

IT NEEDS TO LOOK ATTRACTIVE.

APPRECIATE Y'ALL VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU ALL.

SO I NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT THEIR REPORT.

MR. PHELPS MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

MR. BARBARA MAKES SECOND.

PRESENT AND ACCEPT THE TREASURER'S REPORT FOR DECEMBER 23 AND A QUARTERLY INVESTMENT REPORT FOR OCTOBER THROUGH DECEMBER OF 23.

MOST CASE, HERE COMES OUR TREASURER.

MR. CHUCK.

[5. Chuck Mohnkern: Present/Accept the Treasurer's Monthly Report for December 2023 and Quarterly Investment Report for October through December 2023.]

MORNING, CHUCK.

GOOD MORNING, JUDGE.

COMMISSIONERS.

WE, UH, ENDED DECEMBER WITH, UH, JUST OVER $6 MILLION IN FUND 10.

UH, OUR INTEREST FROM AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK WAS, UH, $1,767.

WE EARNED 374,154 FROM, UH, TEXAS POOL AND TEXAS CLASS.

UH, WE HAD A TOTAL OF $10,160,491

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IN TAX POOL AT THE END OF THE MONTH.

66,143,000 IN TEXAS CLASS AT THE END OF THE MONTH.

THOSE TOTALS ARE DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

THEY WERE PULLING MONEY OUT IN ORDER TO COVER BILLS THAT, UH, HAS NOW REVERSED WITH, UH, TAX REVENUES COMING IN THIS MONTH.

WE ARE PUTTING MONEY BACK INTO THE INVESTMENT FUNDS.

UH, WE EARNED AN AVERAGE YIELD FROM A TAX SPOOL OF 5.5951% AND AN AVERAGE YIELD FROM TEXAS CLASS OF 5.5744%.

DURING THE MONTH OF DECEMBER.

IN AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK.

WE HAD 49,590,000.

UH, IN THE BANK.

THE PLEDGE SECUR IS 56 MILLION, 31,000.

SO WE WERE COLLATERALIZED AT 113% DURING THE MONTH OF DECEMBER.

NOW IN JANUARY, I KNOW THIS MONTH THIS, UH, COVERS DECEMBER, BUT IN JANUARY, UH, I'VE HAD VERY GOOD COOPERATION FROM THE TAX ASSESSOR ON LETTING ME KNOW WHEN DEPOSITS WERE GONNA BE EXCESSIVELY HIGH AND I COULD GET WITH AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK AND THEY WOULD GO TO FEDERAL HOME LOAN BANK AND GET LETTERS OF CREDIT TO COVER THE COLLATERALIZATION OF THE EXCESSIVELY HIGH DEPOSITS FOR THE DAYS THAT THEY WERE GONNA BE IN THE BANK.

SO WE'VE HAD REAL GOOD COOPERATION FROM TAX ASSESSOR AND THE BANK THIS YEAR, AND IT'S WORKED OUT QUITE WELL.

THE, UH, PERCENTAGE INVESTED OF, UH, CASH, 60% PERCENTAGE IN THE BANK, 39.39%.

WE WROTE 392 RECEIPTS DURING THE MONTH OF DECEMBER FOR A TOTAL OF $10,297,305.

ANY QUESTIONS? NO.

NO.

I APPRECIATE IT.

IT LOOKS VERY GOOD AND YOU'RE KEEPING US UP TO DATE AND KEEPING OUR ANSWERS COMING IN AND WATCHING OUR BOTTOM LINE, WHICH IS BENEFICIAL TO OUR TAXPAYERS.

NOPE.

NO, THEY APPRECIATE IT.

ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? TREASURER, YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB MAKING IS MAKING EVERY NICKEL OFF OF MONEY AS WE CAN MAKE? WELL, WE CAN.

APPRECIATE IT.

I NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE REPORT.

MR. MOORE MAKES THE MOTION.

MR. PHILLIPS.

MAKE A SECOND.

A AYE.

THANK YOU.

CHUCK, YOU WANT THE INVESTMENT REPORT? YES, SIR.

GO AHEAD.

OCTOBER THROUGH DECEMBER WAS 1,199,000 ONE HUNDRED AND FOURTEEN OH TWO.

UM, TOTAL INTEREST EARN DURING THE, UH, FOURTH QUARTER OF 2023.

SO THEREFORE, THAT'S THE TOTAL INTEREST YEAR TO DATE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR.

AND THAT'S THE REPORT.

, AGAIN, IT'S POSITIVE.

[6. Jack Sebastian: Discuss/Consider advertising a bid for an Annual Contract for HVAC Services.]

MR. JACK DISCUSSED COULD, UH, ADVERTISING A BID FOR ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR HVAC SERVICES? GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN.

GOOD MORNING.

SO I THINK IT'S TIME WE REBID THE HVAC SERVICES.

THERE'S, THERE'S A PORTION OF THE, UH, CONTRACT WE HAVE THAT THE CURRENT VENDOR, UH, IS NOT ABLE TO DO.

AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD TIME TO REBID IT AND START OVER.

THAT'D BE MY RECOMMENDATION.

AND WE HAVE DANNY BOGAR.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO THAT ISSUE? SEE HERE? YES SIR.

COME FORWARD.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS YOU WOULD PLEASE.

MORNING.

DANNY BAUMGARTNER, UH, 1200 MARILLA STREET, KAUFMAN, TEXAS 7 5 1 4 2.

SO, UM, WE, WE HAVE HAD THE CONTRACT, UH, FOR SEVERAL YEARS WITH THE COUNTY.

UM, I THINK WE HAD IT INITIALLY SEVEN YEARS.

UH, IT WAS RENEWED, IT WAS AWARDED TO MULTIPLE VENDORS.

AND AT THAT TIME, UH, I THINK, UH, I CAN COUNT LESS THAN ON ONE HAND THE AMOUNT OF SERVICE CALLS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM THE COUNTY.

AND AS A CERTIFIED OR AS A CONTRACTOR THAT'S BEEN AWARDED A CONTRACT.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE DON'T GET SERVICE CALLS FROM THAT.

UM, I'VE BEEN TOLD BY THE MAINTENANCE, UH, PEOPLE HERE THAT WELL WE'RE THE BACKUP, WELL, I DON'T UNDERSTAND BACKUP BECAUSE IT WASN'T AWARDED A BACKUP CONTRACT.

SO AS A BUSINESS OWNER HERE IN KAUFMAN, I'D JUST LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WE, WHY WE DON'T GET MORE OPPORTUNITY TO DO MORE WORK WITH THE COUNTY.

IS THERE A MISINFORMATION HERE BETWEEN THE TWO COMPANIES OR WHAT I, I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY THAT.

JACK, UH, CASEY, YOU WANT TO COME FORWARD IF THERE'S ANY ISSUES HERE OR DISCUSSION? WELL, LET ME, I'D LIKE TO, OKAY.

HOLD ON.

COMMISSIONER, I HAD A QUESTION.

I, I'M LOOKING AT THE BID CONTRACT RIGHT HERE.

AND IT SHOWS PRECISION AIR ONE, THE FIRST BID HEAT, LIKE ON OUR GRAVEL STUFF, AND THEY ARE NUMBER TWO.

SO HAS HE BEEN, IS

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UH, SO ON THE HVAC, UH, CONTRACT PRECISION WAS THE, THE, THE VENDOR, UH, AWARDED THAT CONTRACT.

UH, I THINK, UH, MR. BOMGAR MAY BE, UH, REFERRING TO THE, THE, UH, PLUMBING CONTRACT.

UH, THAT IT WAS A MULTIPLE AWARD.

AND, AND HE HAS NOT CALLED, UH, FOR THAT SERVICE.

UH, AND NOW ON THE HVAC, UH, THERE WAS A MEETING IN MY OFFICE THAT, UH, UH, MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THAT THE CURRENT VENDOR COULD NOT WORK ON THE EQUIPMENT THAT'S AT THE NEW BUILDINGS.

AND IT WAS ASKED AT THAT POINT, UH, COULD WE GIVE THAT TO DANNY AS A BACKUP? AND, UH, MY RESPONSE WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T AWARDED THAT WAY.

AND, UH, SO, SO I ELECTED TO PUT THIS BACK ON TO AWARD.

AND SINCE THEN, SINCE THEN, THERE'S BEEN A DISCUSSION THAT THAT CONVERSATION DIDN'T HAPPEN.

BUT IN FACT, YEAH.

JACK, I CAN'T HEAR YOU.

BOTTOM LINE IS THE, YOU KNOW, UH, IN THEIR DEFENSE, MY, LET, LET ME BACK UP.

MY FIRST RESPONSE IS TO PROTECT THE COUNTY.

MY SECOND IS TO PROTECT THE VENDORS.

YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE KEEP LOSING VENDORS, WE WON'T HAVE ANY VENDORS.

AND SO I, I AGREE WITH MR. BAUMGARTNER ON, ON THE PLUMBING SIDE, YOU KNOW THAT IT WAS MULTIPLE AWARD, BUT HE NEVER GETS THE CALL ON THE HVAC SIDE.

UM, IT WAS AWARDED TO PRECISION.

UH, THERE AGAIN, IT STATED THAT, UH, PRECISION CANNOT WORK ON, ON THE NEW BUILDINGS.

AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT BROUGHT US HERE TODAY, I THINK ARE SOME FOLKS NOT HAPPY ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT'S THE FACTS.

SO CASEY, NOW WE'RE TALKING STRICTLY HVAC, NOT PLUMBING RIGHT NOW ON THIS ONE.

UH, THEY ARE THE CHEAPEST.

UH, WE WERE GOING TO, WE WERE AT THE TIME, BOBBY, UH, WAS THE DIRECTOR AT THE TIME.

WE DISCUSSED, WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE MEETINGS WITH JACK ABOUT USING 3D MECHANICAL.

UH, AND WE WERE TRYING TO STAY IN GOOD GRACES WITH JACK WITH THE PURCHASING.

AND SO AT THE TIME, UH, WE TALKED TO PRECISION AIR.

HIS GUYS THAT ARE EXPERIENCED ON THAT KIND OF STUFF IS BASED MORE NORTHERN OR WEST, UM, TOWARDS DALLAS.

SO HE CLARIFIED THAT HIS, HIS RESPONSE TIME'S GONNA BE EITHER LONGER OR HE IS GONNA HAVE TO ADD ADDITIONAL STAFF TO HIS, UH, COMPANY TO ATTEND OVER HERE.

'CAUSE THE JUSTICE CENTER HAS A MORE SOPHISTICATED A C SYSTEM.

SO BOBBY AND MYSELF DISCUSSED TO TRY TO WORK WITH JACK ON USING 3D MECHANICAL.

MAYBE WE JUST GIVE HIM THAT SINCE HE'S LOCAL.

UM, SINCE THEN WE, UH, HAD A MEETING WITH THEM ON SITE ABOUT DIFFERENT AV SYSTEMS AND HOW THEY WORK.

AND THEY WERE INSTALLED ONE WAY, DISCUSSED WITH, UH, 3D MECHANICAL.

HE WAS, THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO WORK THAT WAY.

THEN I GOT WITH THE ENGINEER AND HE SHOWED ME WHY THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO WORK THAT WAY.

AND SO THEN WE DECIDED TO GO AHEAD AND GIVE HIM A, UH, RUN AT IT, AT CLEANING THE COILS.

WHEN ONE OF THE FANS WENT OUT ON THE CHILLER, UM, HE GAVE US A PRICE TO CLEAN THE COILS WITH CHEMICAL, UH, TRAIN HAPPENED TO COME OUT THERE 'CAUSE WE HAD ANOTHER FAN GO OUT THE NEXT WEEK.

AND SO WE HAD THE TRAIN REPRESENTATIVE OUT THERE.

HE SAID, WELL, IF YOU USE CHEMICALS, YOU'RE AVOIDING THE ENTIRE AC WARRANTY.

SO AT THAT POINT WE WERE TRYING TO WORK WITH JACK, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, UH, PRECISION AIR HAS A CONTRACT.

SO I, WE HAVE SINCE THEN GONE STRICTLY PRECISION AIR ON ALL OF OUR AC STUFF.

UNLESS THEY CAN'T BE OUT HERE WITHIN TWO HOURS, UH, WE CAN'T GO WITHOUT AC THAT LONG.

IT STARTS HEATING UP, ESPECIALLY IN THE SUMMERTIME.

SO IF THEY CALL AND ARE LIKE, HEY, WE'RE TIED UP.

WE HAVE DISCUSSED WITH JACK ABOUT USING 3D AS A BACKUP.

THEY'RE THE ONLY OTHER ONES THAT BID ON THE AC HVAC.

THEY HAVE DONE WORK IN THE PAST, SO THEY KNOW MOST OF OUR EQUIPMENT ON SOME OF THE OLDER BUILDINGS.

AND SO WE USE THEM.

I'VE USED THEM ON, UH, PET ADOPTION A COUPLE TIMES AT THE, UH, JUSTICE CENTER.

UM, WHEN WE CAN'T GET THE OTHER COMPANY OUT HERE QUICK ENOUGH.

UM, AT THIS TIME, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE CONTRACTS THAT I HAVE.

AND HVAC IS THE ONLY ONE WE'RE DISCUSSING.

I I DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WHO I HAVE NOW.

AND I DO BELIEVE IT'S, UH, WHEN WE ASSIGN THE CONTRACT, I THINK IT'S TO EXTEND IT FOR TWO YEARS IF WE SO WISH.

UH, AND THIS IS, I FOUND OUT ABOUT THAT.

I HAVEN'T HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT EXTENDING IT WITH JACK.

SO, UH, THIS IS NEWS TO ME.

I DON'T, I'M FINE WITH THE AC COMPANY WE USE, Y'ALL HAVE THE PRICING IN FRONT OF YOU, HOW MUCH WE SPEND IT WITH THEM ON THE PMS JUST TO TRIP CHARGE ALONE ON WHEN THEY COME OUT HERE.

UM, MY GOAL, LIKE JACK SAID, IS TO SAVE THE TAXPAYER MONEY, UH, PER PAPERWORK.

THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING.

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THEY DO A GOOD QUALITY WORK.

AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

GOOD QUALITY AND LOWEST COST.

SO THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.

DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT FOR ME? JUST STAY THERE MIN JACK.

SO LET'S GO DOWN MEMORY LANE HERE JUST A MINUTE, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

SO, YEARS AGO WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE, UH, THERE WAS NO MAINTENANCE.

IT WAS MR. PORTER AND MYSELF.

AND THEY CALLED ME IF THERE WAS AIR WAS TOO COLD, TOO HOT.

AND WE, WE HANDLED IT.

WE HAD A AC VENDOR THAT I KNEW WAS, I KNEW WAS ROBIN AS BLIND.

AND SO I CAUGHT HIM ONE DAY, THREE GUYS SHOOTING A VENT.

AND UH, I ASKED HIM, WHAT ARE Y'ALL DOING? WELL, WE'RE CHECKING THE TEMPERATURE AND ALL THREE GUYS ON, ON THE SALARY.

SO IMMEDIATE, I THOUGHT, WE'RE GONNA REBID THIS THING.

SO I PUT A BID OUT.

I WAS APPROACHED BY THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE, UH, THAT THEY KNEW TWO GUYS THAT HAD BEEN AT HBC BUSINESS FOREVER AND STARTING A COMPANY.

AND I SAID, SEND 'EM TO ME.

SO WE AWARD A CONTRACT, UH, PUT OUT A BID.

IT WAS AWARDED 3D MECHANICAL, HAD 'EM SEVERAL YEARS, DID A GREAT JOB.

I DIDN'T HAVE A DOG IN A HUNT.

THAT'S, THAT'S THE WAY IT WORKED OUT.

SO I RETIRE AND I'M SITTING AT HOME, AND THIS HAS BEEN ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO.

I GET A CALL FROM MR. BAUMGARTNER.

HE SAID, CAN YOU, COULD YOU GIVE ME ADVICE? I WAS AWARDED A CONTRACT FOR HVAC SERVICES AND I HAVE NOT RECEIVED A CALL IN LIKE A YEAR AND A HALF.

AND THIS GUY'S RIGHT DOWN THE STREET IN KAUFMAN AND HE SEES HIS COMPETITION COME AROUND.

HE WAS AWARDED A CONTRACT BUT NEVER GOT A CALL.

SO I SAID, YEAH, I'LL CHECK INTO IT.

SO I CALLED THE PREVIOUS PURCHASING AGENT AND ASKED, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE PROBLEM? I'M REPRESENTING 3D.

AND THE RESPONSE WAS, UH, MAINTENANCE CAN USE WHOEVER THEY WANT TO USE.

AND I SAID, SO YOU'LL AWARD A CONTRACT TO, TO A VENDOR, BUT YOU DON'T USE 'EM AND THEY CAN USE WHOEVER THEY WANT TO USE.

I SAID, YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S RIGHT.

SO I WAS GONNA GET INVOLVED IN THAT AND I FINALLY, I JUST THOUGHT, YOU KNOW WHAT? I WORKED FOR THE COUNTY.

THEY WERE GOOD TO ME.

I'M, I'M GONNA STEP OUT.

AND I ADVISED 3D TO COME TO COURT AND, AND SPEAK, SPEAK TO THE COURT.

HE TOOK THE HIGH ROAD AND UH, THAT'S HIS DEAL.

SO I COME BACK AND NOW I'M IN HERE AND I'M, I'M DOING CONTRACTS LIKE PLUMBING HVAC AND I'M SEEING THE SAME THING.

HOW THE VENDOR'S BEING TREATED.

AND ONCE AGAIN, I'M HERE TO PROTECT THE COUNTY, BUT I'M NOT GONNA LET THE VENDORS GET RUN OVER LIKE THAT.

AND SO I STAND BEHIND THE FACT THAT, UH, UH, ON THE PLUMBING SIDE, I KNOW WE'RE TALK ABOUT THAT, BUT HE'S NOT CALLED.

AND MAINTENANCE GUY, UH, COMES TO ME IN MY OFFICE OFFICE AND TELLS ME THAT HIS VENDOR CANNOT DO IT AND HE WANTS TO USE DANNY AS A BACKUP.

THIS IS WHAT I'M DOING.

YOU KNOW.

AND SO I WILL SAY ONE STEP THING, I ANOTHER THING I GET A CALL FROM THE PEOPLE DOING THE, UH, COURTHOUSE, THE ARCHITECT AND ENGINEERS, THE, THE CONSTRUCTION GUY WAS MATTER THAN HORNET, THAT HIS GUYS ARE DESIGNING THE BUILDING.

AND THAT OUR MAINTENANCE GUY TOLD HIM, I DON'T WANT THIS TYPE OF HBAC BECAUSE THERE'S NO ONE IN THE COUNTY CAN REPAIR IT.

THIS GENTLEMAN REPAIRS IT.

SO I, I THINK I HAD A MEETING WITH YOU JUDGE, AND TO GET CLARIFICATION, YOU KNOW, ARE WE GOING DESIGN A BUILDING, UH, BASED ON WHAT THE MAINTENANCE WANTS OR ARE WE GOING TO, ARE WE GONNA HIRE AN ARCHITECT AND ENGINEER, DO THEIR JOB? AND SO I FIND IT KIND OF STRANGE THAT, THAT YOU MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT TO THE, TO THE ARCHITECT TO PUT IN ONE KIND OF PRODUCT BECAUSE THERE'S NO ONE IN TOWN THAT CAN FIX IT.

SO WE GOT A PROBLEM.

CAN I COMMENT FOR A SECOND? SURE.

I'M ASSUMING TO MAKE CLEAR, 'CAUSE PEOPLE'S WATCHING THIS.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF TENSION HERE.

YOU CAN TELL.

OKAY? ABSOLUTELY.

UH, FIRST THING IS FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A CHILLER SYSTEM.

THE OLD COURTHOUSE HAD A CHILLER SYSTEM.

IT'S BEEN UP THERE FOR FOREVER.

UH, THE REASON I KNOW THAT IS BECAUSE THE CONTRACTORS IN THE PAST WOULD USE MY DAD SOMETIMES, WHO WAS A CHILLER MAINTENANCE OPERATOR, WORKED ON 'EM FOR YEARS, WOULD COME IN, THEY'D BE LIKE, HEY, WE DON'T NORMALLY WORK ON THESE CHILLER SYSTEMS, BUT WE NEED SOMEBODY COME LOOK AT THIS COURTHOUSE.

SO MY DAD IN THE PAST WOULD COME UP THERE AND WORK ON THESE, THESE, IT COULD HAVE BEEN YOUR COMPANY THAT USED, I DON'T KNOW WHO USED, HE USED HAD SEVERAL AC COMPANIES THAT CALL HIM AS AN OUTSIDE PERSON, COME AND LOOK AT THESE CHILLER SYSTEMS AND THEN, THEN THEY'D GET IT REPAIRED AND MOVE ON.

SO I'M ASSUMING THIS IS ALL ABOUT THE CHILLER SYSTEMS IS WHAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOUR COMPANY HAS A, UH, LIKE A MECHANIC THAT'S HIRED BY YOU, PAID BY DO OR DO YOU CONTRACT IT OUT AS WELL? NO, SIR.

WE DO ALL OUR WORK IN HOUSE.

WE DON'T SUBCONTRACT.

ANY HVAC REPAIRS OUT WHATSOEVER.

SO YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A CHILDREN MECHANIC? WE DO CONTRACTS WITH, UH, ARMY AIR FORCE EXCHANGE SERVICES, NATIONAL HEADQUARTERS IN DALLAS.

I MEAN WE DO A LOT OF WORK ON MILITARY BASES, COUNTIES.

UH, SO CITY OF LANCASTER, I WAS WORKING ON A CHILLER YESTERDAY.

ALRIGHT.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE, THE COME IN.

LIKE PEOPLE HAVE TO HIRE OUTSIDE

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PEOPLE TO COME IN.

IS WHETHER, IS THAT WHAT YOU WAS TALKING ABOUT AS WELL? THAT IS COMPANY THAT YOU PREFER THEY BRING IN AN OUTSIDE SOURCE TO DO THE CHILLERS? OR DO THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A CHILLER PERSON'S MY UNDERSTANDING, UNDERSTANDING YOU'RE TALKING TO THE OWNER OF DECISION AIR.

WHICH ONE? THE CONTRACT THEY HAVE ON STAFF, BUT THEY'RE, THEY DON'T PUT, THEY HAVE DIFFERENT AREAS THAT DO DIFFERENT KIND OF AC WORK.

UM, AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO PULL THEM FROM DALLAS OR MCKINNEY OR SOMETHING TO COME OVER HERE AND WORK ON OUR CHILLER SYSTEM.

THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING.

IF THEY'RE SUBBING IT OUT THAT HE DID NOT SAY THAT TO ME.

I LIKE THAT.

ONE MORE THING I'M LOOKING AT, UH, UH, THE VENDOR THAT HAS THE CONTRACT AND ON, ON THE, UH, MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS.

IT, IT, UH, ASKS THE CHECKOFF LIST FOR COMPLIANCE.

AND IT ME MENTIONS HYDRONIC PUMP INSTALLATION ALIGNMENT AND CALIBRATION ABILITY.

UH, IT GETS INTO, UH, KNOWLEDGE AND ABILITY TO TROUBLESHOOT UH, WATER CHILLERS.

SO I RELY ON MAINTENANCE, UH, TO REVIEW THESE AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION WHETHER THE VENDOR CAN DO IT.

UH, IF THE VENDOR CHECKED OFF, THEY CAN DO ALL THIS.

SO WHY, WHY DO WE CHECK OFF? WE CAN DO ALL THAT.

YET, YET WE'RE ASKING FOR AN OUTSIDE SOURCE TO DO IT.

THAT'S MY CONFUSION.

WELL, FROM WHAT HE'S SAYING, THEY HAVE QUALIFIED PEOPLE.

THEY'RE JUST NOT IN KAUFMAN AREA.

THEY'RE IN THE DALLAS COUNTY.

SO THAT'S WHEN IT GOES OVER TWO HOURS.

AND YOU CALL 3D 'CAUSE WE CAN'T WAIT.

WE CAN'T WAIT THAT LONG.

LIKE THEY'VE BEEN DOING THE CHILLER AT THE COURTHOUSE FOR YEARS.

AND THE ONE AT THE END HERE AT THIS BUILDING, THE ANNEX, UM, THE CHILLER HERE OUT BACK, THEY'VE WORKED ON CHILLERS.

THEY CAN WORK ON CHILLERS.

MY UNDERSTANDING, TALKING TO THEM.

UM, IS THAT WHERE THEIR, THEIR AREA, THEIR ZONE IS, THEIR AREA ZONE THAT THEY WORK IN NORMALLY WOULD TAKE THEM LONGER TO GET HERE OR HE WILL HAVE TO HIRE AND TRAIN ANOTHER GUY TO BE IN THIS AREA TO COVER THAT.

HE WAS.

BUT AS LONG AS WE HAVE 3D HERE, I HAVE A BACK.

IT'S QUICKER IS CHEAPER.

WELL BUY CHEAPER, BUT IT'S QUICKER TO GET SOMEONE HERE TO FIX WHAT'S BROKE ON THE JUDGE.

THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE.

I GET IT.

AND JUDGE, JUDGE, I'M, I ADD LAST THING I'LL ADD TO IT.

THAT SOUNDS GOOD IN THEORY.

BUT WHEN YOU COME TO ME AND YOU TELL ME YOU WANT TO HAVE A VENDOR COME IN AS A BACKUP OR TO DO THE CHILLERS, THERE'S NO CONTRACT FOR THAT.

IT WASN'T AWARDED THAT WAY.

THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY I'M BUT HE'S NUMBER TWO ON THE LIST.

IS THAT RIGHT? NO, IT WAS AWARDED TO PRECISION AIR.

PERIOD.

AND SO, UH, I'M ASKED TO LET 3D MCCAB COME IN AND DO THE JUSTICE CENTER AND I CAN'T BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A, WE DIDN'T HAVE A BID TO ADDRESS THAT.

THE BID WAS AWARDED A PRECISION.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M PUTTING A BID OUT TODAY IS TO IS TO ALLOW THAT.

I'M COMPLETELY OKAY.

I WAS, I WAS TRYING TO PUT 'EM AS A BACKUP BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS MEETING MULTIPLE TIMES.

I'M JUST TRYING TO WORK PURCHASING.

'CAUSE I DO NOT WANT TO HAVE ANY ODDS WITH ANYBODY IN THE COUNTY.

UM, AND THAT'S WHEN BOBBY WAS IN, UH, OFFICE AND WE JUST WANNA WORK WITH EVERYBODY.

IF YOU WANT THIS COMPANY OUT HERE, WE'RE TRYING TO FIND WAYS THAT WE CAN USE THIS COMPANY.

UH, I'M FINE WITH THE COMPANY.

WE HAVE THEY ON, ON AVERAGE WHERE THEY'RE GETTING CALLED AT LEAST ONCE A WEEK AND THEY'RE HERE, THEY'RE HERE AT ALL TIMES.

UH, I CALL 'EM, I DON'T NORMALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THEM GETTING HERE.

YOU MIGHT HAVE AN OCCASION AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THAT OCCASION ANYTIME.

UH, I'VE HAD THE OCCASION THAT, UM, THIS OTHER COMPANY THAT THEY'RE WANTING US TO USE CAN'T GET HERE WITHIN TWO HOURS.

SO IT'S NOT ONLY THIS COMPANY, YOU CAN HAVE THAT MULTIPLE COMPANY.

EVEN WHEN I TRIED TO USE UH, 3D MECHANICAL, THEY WEREN'T OUT WITHIN TWO HOURS.

SO IT'S, THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH ANY, WITH ANY COMPANY.

WELL, SUMMERTIME WOULDN'T HAPPEN TO ANYBODY.

I GET THAT.

YOU CAN'T HAVE STAFF WAITING.

YEAH, YOU CAN'T CALL, YOU CAN'T DO THAT.

I MEAN, THEY WOULDN'T BE IN BUSINESS IF THEY WAITED AROUND TO JUST MAKE A CALL.

SURE.

IF I MAKE A CALL AND THEY CAN BE HERE IN TWO HOURS.

SO WHAT YOUR PROPOSED IS TO GO BACK OUT FOR HVAC ONLY 'CAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE A CONTRACT IN PLACE.

NOW IS THAT GOING TO AVOID THAT CONTRACT? IT'S GONNA BE A NEW ONE.

IT WAS A ONE YEAR CONTRACT WITH RENEWALS.

AND SO LATITUDE, IF IT'S NOT WORKING, IT'S TIME TO REBID IT.

UH, 'CAUSE IT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT WORKING.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE WANTING TO REACH OUT TO ANOTHER VENDOR THAT'S NOT UNDER CONTRACT.

SO THAT'S, THAT WAS THE PURPOSE TO PUT A BID OUT.

SO LET'S GET EVERYBODY LINED UP.

BUT IT WAS A ONE YEAR CONTRACT WITH RENEWALS.

WE CAN CHOOSE TO TAKE THE RENEWALS OR WE CAN REBID THOUGHTS.

FELLAS, SPEAK UP.

WE DID, WE HAVE A PROBLEM.

DID DID WE NOT BE ABLE TO SERVICE THEM? I HAVE NOT.

I'VE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH JACK AND UM, DANNY WITH THREE DI DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WHO I I'M USING NOW.

NO, I MEANT THEN WE HAVE A PROBLEM WHERE WE COULDN'T SERVICE THEM.

NO.

UH, THE PROBLEM WE'VE HAD HAS BEEN A WARRANTY WITH YOU'RE SAYING WE HAD A PROBLEM.

CURRENT VENDOR COULD NOT WORK ON THE SYSTEM AT THE JUSTICE CENTER.

AND WE COULDN'T SERVICE 'EM.

AND SO YOU'RE REACHING OUT TO THEM TO, TO COME BID THE CONTRACT.

WHAT WHAT I'M SAYING IS I WAS TOLD THAT THE

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IT SAYS HE DOES.

NO, I'M NOT THE CURRENT VENDOR.

HE'S NOT, HE'S NOT THE CURRENT VENDOR.

OH.

HE'S 3D MECHANICAL.

THEY HAVE, UH, WHO IS, UH, PRECISION AIR.

PRECISION AIR HAS TO BRING SOMEBODY, ONE THEIR GUY FROM DALLAS WHO'S CERTIFIED TO DO THAT.

HE HAS SOMEONE HERE WHO'S CERTIFIED TO DO THAT.

UH, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN HE DOESN'T GO TO THE ARMY AIR FORCE EXCHANGE AND WORKING ON IT WHEN WE'RE CALLING HIM.

I MEAN, IT'D BE THE SAME DIFFERENCE.

LIKE YOU SAID, IT DOESN'T MATTER.

I MEAN, IF YOU, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT CAN DO IT, YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT CAN DO IT.

THEY HAVE PEOPLE THAT CAN DO IT.

HE HAS PEOPLE THAT CAN DO IT.

I DON'T KNOW.

I, I GUESS I'M HAVING A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING THE ISSUE.

OKAY, LET, LET, LET'S START OVER THEN.

BECAUSE YOU WENT BACK 10 YEARS AGO.

I DON'T, I I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW.

WELL HERE'S TODAY'S TIME.

COMMISSIONER, WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH PRECISION AIR.

I'M TOLD THAT PRECISION AIR CANNOT WORK ON THE STUFF AT THE JUSTICE CENTER.

AND I'M ASKING IF WE CAN BRING HIM IN AS A BACKUP.

THERE'S NO PLAN FOR THAT.

I CAN'T HAVE HIM COME IN HERE AND WE SPEND A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M PUTTING A BID.

OUT TO START ALL OVER.

IF YOU, WHY DID WE, WHY DID WE ASK 3D TO COME IN? BECAUSE WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE MEETINGS ON WHY WE DON'T USE 3D AND IT GETS HEATED.

WHY ARE YOU HAVING THE MEETINGS? WHY WE NEED 3D? THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR JACK.

I DID NOT CALL THESE MEETINGS.

WHY ARE YOU ASKING HIM TO USE THREE DII DON'T CARE WHO WE USE.

COMMISSIONER.

WELL, I MEAN HE'S, I'M JUST REPEATING HIS WORDS AT THE MOMENT.

BUT THE WORDS TO ME WERE, OUR VENDOR, CURRENT VENDOR CANNOT WORK ON THE HVAC AT THE NEW BUILDINGS.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD.

BUT THEY CAME, THEY GOTTA COME FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE.

I WAS TOLD THEY EITHER NEEDED TO HIRE NEW PEOPLE, BUY EQUIPMENT, WHATEVER.

AND THEY WANTED TO BRING THESE GUYS IN.

AND SO WE'RE AT, WE'RE OUTTA A BUILDING, NEW BUILDINGS THAT WE CAN'T SERVICE PER HIS BOARD'S.

NOT MINE.

HE WAS IN THE ROOM.

HE HEARD THE SAME CONVERSATION THAT THE CURRENT VENDOR CANNOT WORK ON IT.

THAT'S WHY HE WAS ASKED TO, TO WORK ON IT.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

I WAS ASKED IF I COULD WORK ON THE EQUIPMENT AT 1900.

UH, 1 75.

SO WHY CAN'T WE JUST LET HIM WORK ON THOSE CHILLERS? HE'S HERE, HE'S QUALIFIED AS PEOPLE WITHOUT HAVING TO GO OUT FOR BID.

IF HE, HE DID BID ON H-V-A-C-A YEAR AGO.

TWO, WHENEVER IT WAS A COUPLE YEARS AGO.

AND YOU WERE NUMBER TWO AS FAR AS PRICING, I ASSUME? WELL, I, IT'S NEWS TO ME TODAY THAT I DIDN'T HAVE THE CONTRACT BECAUSE I THOUGHT I WAS PART OF THAT CONTRACT AS WELL.

SO I THINK IT, IT'S THE, IT'S THE PLUMBING.

BUT, UH, I I I'M STILL, I'M STILL LOST.

IF, IF, IF A CONTRACTOR SAID HE CAN WORK ON IT, CAN HE WORK ON IT OR NOT? YES.

HE HAS QUALIFIED PEOPLE TO WORK ON IT.

BID THE CONTRACT.

IN MY MEETING WITH, I, I GUESS I'M CONFUSED.

I I'M SORRY.

I I WAS TRYING YOU'RE SAYING HE CAN'T WORK ON IT.

HE'S SAYING HE CAN WORK ON IT.

HE HAS PAPERWORK SAYING HE CAN CHECK ON IT, THEN HE NEEDS TO FOLLOW HIS CONTRACT AND HE NEEDS TO WORK ON IT.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND I, I MEAN THAT'S JUST, I I MEAN IF HE'S NOT DOING IT, DID HE NOT DO IT? NOPE.

HE'S ADDRESSED IT EVERY TIME I'VE CALLED HIM.

AND DEBBIE, I HAVE A QUESTION HERE.

I GUESS I'M LOST.

WELL, I HAVE A QUESTION HERE.

SAY FOR INSTANCE, THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT IS I'M GONNA USE ROCK FOR INSTANCE.

SAY I CALL ONE THE NUMBER ONE THE WINTER OF THE BID ON PEA GRAVEL AND THEY'RE LIKE, HEY, PLANTS BROKE DOWN.

CAN'T GET YOU ANY P GRAVEL LAWFULLY.

LEGALLY WE CAN GO TO THE SECOND PERSON THAT WAS ON THE BID LIST, RIGHT? IF YOU HAVE THE BID LIST.

SO I THINK THE PROBLEM HERE IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE A BID LIST.

WE ONLY HAVE A SINGLE CONTRACT.

THAT'S CORRECT.

SO HE DIDN'T BID ON HVAC.

HE, HE, HE, HE DID, BUT HE WAS NOT, YOU KNOW, HE WAS, HE WAS NOT AWARDED BUT A CONTRACT A YEAR AGO.

A YEAR.

BUT HE WAS ON THE HE DID BID ON IT.

SO HE COULD BE LIKE, ON EVERYTHING ELSE, WE USUALLY HAVE A, LIKE A BACKUP ONE AND TWO OR THREE PRICING ON ROCK, WHATEVER IT IS.

FOR WHATEVER REASON IT APPEARS ON HVAC.

THEY DID NOT DO IT THAT WAY.

THEY ONLY TOOK THE LOWEST BID AND AWARDED THE CONTRACT TO ONE BIDDER.

THEY DID NOT CREATE A LIST.

SEE THAT'S, BUT WE NEED TO CREATE A LIST.

ME, I CAN REMEMBER US HAVING THE CONVERSATION AND GETTING IT CLARIFIED AND, AND I'LL GO TO THE PLUMBING LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT A WEEKEND AND YOU GOT WATER GOING EVERYWHERE.

HAD AN EXTENSIVE DISCUSSION, BUT I DO REMEMBER SPECIFICALLY LEAKS AND YOU KNOW, KINDA LIKE THE WEEKEND DEAL WHEN WE HAD THE FLOOD HERE.

YOU CAN'T GET SOMEBODY OUT HERE.

YOU HAVE THE NUMBER TWO GUY THAT CAN CALL.

SO WE KIND OF PUT IN, AND I JUST ASSUMED, IT MAKES ME SOUND LIKE AN IDIOT, BUT I JUST KIND OF ASSUMED THAT WHENEVER WE HAD TWO PEOPLE ON THE BID LIST THAT THEY COULD DO THE SAME THING.

THAT IF THEY CAN'T SHOW UP AND THEY HAVE AN EMERGENCY, THEN WE CALL THE SECOND GUY.

KINDA LIKE WHAT TOMMY'S TALKING ABOUT.

BUT I, I KNOW WE

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YOU KNOW? EXACTLY.

THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING TO THE BID LIST IS 'CAUSE I HAVE THEIR PRICING AND I JUST ASSUMED IT WAS FOR THE WHOLE DEAL.

COULD SECOND, WELL I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

THE PLUMBING, FOR INSTANCE, IT WAS A MULTIPLE AWARD.

IF YOU GUYS MAY REMEMBER, YOU COULD HAVE FLIPPED A COIN.

ONE GUY'S LOWER ON THIS PORTION, THE OTHER GUY'S LOWER ON THIS PORTION.

SO WE CAME TO COURT AND SAID, I RECOMMEND A MULTIPLE AWARD, UH, TO ALL VENDORS.

CALL 'EM AS NEEDED.

HE DOESN'T GET CALLED.

HE'S HAD THE CONTRACT A YEAR.

HE DON'T GET CALLED.

VERY RARELY DOES HE GET CALLED.

AND I'VE GIVEN ALL KINDS OF STORIES AND I WON'T GET INTO THAT.

I'M JUST GOING BACK TO FACT.

FACT IS I'M TOLD THE CURRENT VENDOR CANNOT WORK ON OUR NEW BUILDINGS.

MAYBE I DON'T MIND IF IF THEY CAN'T WORK ON A NEW BUILDING, I DON'T KNOW.

I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.

EXACTLY.

WHO TOLD YOU THAT? THAT THEY CAN'T WORK ON IT? HE DID, BUT HE'S TELLING US THAT THEY CAN'T.

BOBBY, HE WAS IN THE ROOM.

HE WAS IN THE ROOM WHEN HE DID TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO USE BREEDING, MECHANICAL AND DOING THAT.

PRECISION AIR HAD BEEN NOT BASED IN THIS AREA.

OR IF THEY, IF THEY WERE GONNA MEET THE CRITERIA OF THE CONTRACT OF TWO HOURS, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO PUT SOMEBODY AND TRAIN THEM IN THIS AREA.

SO YOU HAVE TO HIRE SOMEBODY.

THAT WAS OUR CONVERSATION.

SO I THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD WAY TO USE 3D MECHANICAL.

I WILL.

AND WE, I WILL JUDGE, I'LL BRING, I'LL BRING THE ARCHITECT AND THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER UP HERE TO SPEAK.

'CAUSE THEY TOLD ME THEY WERE TOLD BY MAINTENANCE, I DO NOT WANT THE SAME HVAC SYSTEM BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY IN TOWN THAT CAN WORK ON IT.

WELL, LET'S, LET'S, THAT'S WHAT THEY TOLD ME.

THEY CALLED ME.

I'LL TELL YOU.

WAIT A MINUTE.

WELL, WE'RE GONNA WORK ON THIS ISSUE FIRST.

ONE, LET'S JUST DO ONE SIMPLE MINDED, LET'S DO ONE THING AT A TIME HERE.

CAN WE NOT AWARD A CONTRACT TO HIM? IF THEY CANNOT GET HERE, THEN THEY ARE THE ONES TO BE CALLED WITHOUT HAVING JACK HAVE TO PUT IT OUT FOR BID.

NO.

WHY NOT? BECAUSE YOU CAN'T, CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY BEEN A BED AND THE BED HAS BEEN AWARDED.

SO WE CAN'T DO AN AMENDMENT TO THE BID.

YOU HAVE TO READ IT.

WHY I'M HERE TODAY, SIR.

AND THAT, THAT'S THE SAME QUESTION I I WAS GONNA ASK JUDGE, WHAT YOU JUST ASKED IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO IS, I'M ASSUMING THE WAY IT'S APPROVED THROUGH COURT IS WHY THAT IS CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

AND THEN THAT IT WASN'T PUT OUT AS A MULTIPLE BID.

WELL, THE TWO SHAFT IS, I I DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT WE CAN'T, LIKE SAY YOU HAVE AN $80,000 PROBLEM, PERSON CAN'T COME, WE DON'T HAVE A SECOND BACKUP.

I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

UH, THE LEGALLY TO BE ABLE TO PAY HIM OVER 50,000 LEGALLY.

BUT THE SECOND PROBLEM HERE, I'M GONNA SAY THIS IS I DON'T LIKE THE IMAGE OF ANY SPECIAL INTEREST EITHER.

SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE, WE GOTTA BE CAREFUL THAT WE'RE NOT PUSHING ANY PARTICULAR AS COUNTY EMPLOYEES, YOU TWO, THAT WE'RE NOT PUSHING A SPECIFIC COMPANY BECAUSE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE UNBIASED ON THAT.

SO THAT'S LIKE, YOU CAN SEE THE TENSION BETWEEN YOU TWO.

THAT'S NOT GOOD.

SO MY DEAL IS, IS I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE WE NEED TO ADDRESS.

SO I SAY TABLE THIS AND HAVE ANOTHER MEETING BECAUSE WE GOT PROBLEMS HERE THAT WE NEED TO .

WELL, I'D LIKE TO SEE THE OTHER COMPANIES STAND HERE AND TELL US THAT THEY CAN'T WORK ON IT.

YES, THAT'S RIGHT.

THE OTHER PERSON'S NOT EVEN HERE TO RE THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WANNA SEE.

I WANNA SEE, I WANNA SEE, UH, WHAT'S THE NAME? UH, UH, MIKE PRECISION? NO, BUT I'M PRECISION HERE.

I'M, I'M LOOKING FOR THE NAME.

WHERE ARE THEY? BA WHERE ARE THEY? UH, THEY'RE IN VILLE.

THAT'S, THAT'S FIVE MILES DOWN DOWN THE ROAD.

THAT'S NOT, I HAVE HIM HERE.

UH, LET'S DO THIS.

I I'M AS SOON AS WANT CITY OF C ALL.

HOLD ON, HOLD ON.

I DON'T CARE.

MOTION THAT WE TABLE THIS THE NEXT WEEK.

YOU CAN HAVE THEM HERE.

IN THE MEANTIME, ANYBODY CAN VISIT WITH JACK.

THEY WANNA VISIT WITH JACK ABOUT OPENING A NEW BID AND WE CAN MOVE ON NOW THEN NEXT ISSUE IS PLUMBING.

DID YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT PLUMBING ALSO OR NOT? I WOULD LIKE TO.

UH, IS IT THE SAME THING? I DON'T KNOW.

SAME SITUATION.

IT'S NOT ON THERE.

SAME PLUMBING'S.

NOT ON, BUT IT'S NOT ON HERE.

SO WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT.

IT'S NOT ON THERE.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT NEXT WEEK.

HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA.

WOULD YOU MAKE A NOTE OF THAT? TELL THEM ARE THEY THE PLUMBING PRE WHO'S, WHO'S THE PLUMBING CONTRACTOR? UH, RIGHT NOW THE CONTRACT'S WITH MULTIPLE, WHICH IS EXCESS PLUMBING AND MECHANICAL.

AND YOU HAVE THOSE PEOPLE HERE.

IT MULTIPLE.

BUT NOW YOU DO ALL THE WORK AT THE JAIL.

I MEAN, IF, IS THAT CORRECT? I MEAN, IF WE'RE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S NOT YES, NOT YES.

THAT'S ALL.

I, I JUST, I NEED ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE I MADE A MOTION THESE SECOND, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? MR. WE MAKE SECOND.

MOTION KERRY.

WE'LL SEE YOU GENTLEMAN.

NEXT WEEK.

UH, THANK YOU GUYS.

OH, JACK'S STILL HERE.

ALL RIGHT.

[7. Jack Sebastian: Discuss/Consider advertising for an online auction to sell surplus county vehicles utilizing Rene Bates Auctioneer Services.]

ADVERTISING.

WE DIDN'T RUN FULL LINE AUCTION TO SELL SURPLUS CANDY VEHICLES UTILIZING RENEE BATES.

GENTLEMAN'S TITLE, SELL SOME VEHICLES.

WE'VE GOT SOME VEHICLES THAT HAVE BEEN TURNED IN FOR SOME NEW LEASE CARS THAT ARE, THAT

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ARE COMING IN.

UH, IN ADDITION TO, UH, I THINK I'VE JUST GOT ON OUR SELL VEHICLES ON ONLINE AUCTION.

I THINK WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF MISCELLANEOUS WE COULD SELL TOO, BUT IT'S TIME.

WE GOT ABOUT SEVEN OR EIGHT CARS OUT THERE WE NEED TO SELL.

SO I'D LIKE TO GET, GET MOVING ON THAT IF WE COULD.

A QUESTION YOU SOME MONTHS AGO WAS MENTIONED.

ARE THESE LEASE VEHICLES WERE SELLING? THESE ARE NOT.

THESE ARE, THESE ARE COUNTY VEHICLES.

THANK YOU.

AND WE CAN'T SELL LEASE VEHICLE? NO.

ALRIGHT.

THEY SELL 'EM NOW.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS? I NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE.

COMMISSIONER MOORE MAKES MOTION.

NEED A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

MR. MAKE A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

CONSIDER SIGNING AN INTERLOCK AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF KAUFFMAN TO PURCHASE MATERIAL, EQUIPMENT AND MISCELLANEOUS SUPPLIES.

JACK, ONCE AGAIN DISCUSS,

[8. Jack Sebastian: Discuss/Consider signing an Interlocal Agreement with the City of Kaufman to purchase material, equipment, and miscellaneous supplies]

GENTLEMEN, WE DIDN'T, WE DID NOT HAVE A, I LOOKED, WE DON'T HAVE A, UH, INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF KAUFMAN FOR GENERAL STUFF.

THERE'S BEEN AGREEMENTS FOR SPECIFIC THINGS.

UH, AS YOU'RE AWARE ON THE, A COSA, UH, CITY OF KAUFMAN HAS A CONTRACT ON IT, ROAD MATERIAL, AND THIS IS A GOOD AVENUE TO, UH, UH, UTILIZE THEIR CONTRACT.

YEAH, I THINK IT'S THE SAME PRICE WE'RE PAYING, BUT, UH, THEY CHOSE NOT TO BID ON OUR PRODUCT AND WE PUT A BID OUT.

UH, SO WE USE TWO PURPOSES TO USE THE CONTRACT THAT THEY HAVE AND ALSO GOING FORWARD, THEY CAN WRITE ANY CONTRACTS WE HAVE.

WE CAN WRITE ANY CONTRACTS THEY HAVE.

SOUNDS LIKE A PLAN TO ME.

I LIKE THAT.

IT SOUNDS SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD PLAN.

DO WE HAVE PEA GRAVEL ON? YEAH, THAT'S A QUESTION I WAS GONNA ASK.

THAT'S, THAT'S 'CAUSE ROAD.

IT DON'T MATTER IS JUST RIGHT THERE AND WE NEED PEA GRAVEL.

I, I WILL CHECK AND SEE.

IF NOT, WE'LL FIND SOMEBODY THAT DOES.

BUT I KNOW THE AOSA IS DEFINITELY ON THERE.

WELL, I MEAN, THAT'LL GET YOU WORRIED SO MUCH.

SO .

ADVERTISING A BID FOR ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR STEEL VERTS.

MR. MOORE MAKES A MOTION.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND HERE.

GO.

MR. MOORE MAKES ALL ALL IN FAVOR.

I DON'T NEED AYE WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU SOMETHING ANYWAY.

AYE A JACK, ONCE AGAIN DISCUSS, CONSIDER

[9. Jack Sebastian: Discuss/Consider advertising a bid for an annual contract for steel culverts.]

WE USED TO, UH, UTILIZE THE CONTRACT THAT SMITH COUNTY HAD, UH, WITH UH, WILSON CULVERTS AND THAT HAS EXPIRED.

SO IT'S TIME TO BID THAT OUT.

AND WHAT I'VE GOT, I'M GONNA PASS OUT, I'VE GOT A, UH, COPY OF WHAT THE CONTRACT WAS FOR SMITH COUNTY, THE ITEMS. THEN I'VE ALSO GOT WHAT PRECINCT ONE I BELIEVE IT IS BOUGHT HERE RECENTLY.

IF YOU GUYS WILL LOOK AT THESE, IF YOU WANT TO ADD ANY PARTICULAR SIZES TO IT, LET ME KNOW AND WE'LL PUT THAT OUT.

WELL, AND THE, CAN WE, CAN WE ABOUT PLASTIC? MM-HMM.

, WE'VE ALREADY GOT THAT.

SEPARATE CONTRACT WHENEVER WE GET SIZES, I MEAN I, THERE COULD BE THAT ONE PIPE OUT THERE THAT'S AN ODD SIZE, SO WE NEED AN EXTRA FIVE FOOT ON IT OR WHATEVER.

OR A DIFFERENT DIAMETER THAN WHAT WE HAVE ON THE BID SPEC SPECS.

SO EDUCATE ME WHEN WE RUN INTO THAT PROBLEM, WE WILL TRY TO, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

IT COULD BE A, UH, 42 INCH COVER.

THAT, THAT MAYBE THE LENGTH IS WAY LONGER THAN WHAT YOU HAVE.

UH, I'LL PUT SOMETHING IN THERE WHERE MAYBE, YOU KNOW, WE ASK FOR A 24 FOOT AND A 30 FOOT AND MAYBE THERE'S A PRICE PER FOOT AND, AND THEN WE COULD ADJUST THAT IF THEY'LL DO THAT.

I I WISH WE COULD JUST RUBBER STAMP EVERYTHING THAT'S OUT THERE IN THE COUNTY.

BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE, IT HAS PER UNIT BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE UH YEAH.

UH, SOME, BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE COMPANIES WILL MAKE YOU ONE LONGER BUT YOU GOTTA ORDER IT.

SO I MEAN WE NEED, YOU KNOW, SOME WAY TO BE ABLE TO SAY THAT.

IF YOU'LL JUST, WE WERE LOOKING AT ONE THE OTHER DAY TO DO THAT AND I SAID, HEY, JUST BAN IT, YOU KNOW, BUY TWO, BAN IT.

BUT SOMETIMES YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THAT IN THIS CASE.

I SAID WE WANT TO DO IT BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO SPLIT THE ROAD UP ANYWAY, SO IT'S OKAY TO DO IT.

WHAT I'LL DO ON THAT COMMISSIONER IS, IS IF YOU GIMME THE LIST OF SIZES THAT YOU MOST COMMONLY USE, I'LL HAVE ALL THOSE IN AND THEN I'LL PUT A BLURB ON THERE FOR CUPBOARDS THAT ARE 15 INCH, YOU KNOW, IS THERE A PRICE PER FOOT ONE? YEAH.

ONES THAT ARE 24 INCHES, THEY'RE PRICED PER FOOT.

UH, I WILL SAY THAT, THAT, YOU PROBABLY GUYS HAVE SEEN THIS, THE CUPBOARDS ARE PROBABLY DOUBLED IN PRICE.

OH.

AND I, I THINK THAT'S WHY SMITH COUNTY IS, IS NO, NO LONGER VALID BECAUSE THEY JUST COULDN'T DO IT.

AND THEN, AND THE, THE POLYPROPYLENE S ARE REALLY BECOMING POPULAR.

YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU KNOW YOU HAVE SUCCESS WITH THIS.

I'M KIND OF WAITING TO SEE HOW IT WORKS OUT WITH THE OTHER GUYS.

I MEAN HE'S GOT IT ALL THE WAY UP TO A HUNDRED FEET THOUGH.

I GUESS YOU CAN CUT ONE OFF.

YOU ALL DON'T YOU? YEAH, WE USE A LOT OF THE OTHER COURT.

I KNOW, I KNOW.

I MEAN HE IS, HE'S GOT IT.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, 40, 40 80.

YEAH, BUT I'M JUST THROWING IT OUT BECAUSE THERE'S ALL, I WISH WE COULD JUST RUBBER STAMP IT AND IT'S GONNA BE IN THAT BOX.

BUT YOU KNOW.

WELL AS I DO, WE'RE GOING TO HIT ONE THAT'S GONNA BE HOLY.

WHAT DOES THIS AND AND WE MAY NEED, THIS MAY NEED TO BE A SIX MONTH CONTRACT.

THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO HOLD A YEAR, YOU KNOW.

YEAH,

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METAL PRICE IS FLUCTUATING.

OH YEAH, I KNOW.

THEY GO CRAZY.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? THANK YOU.

TODAY I NEED A MOTION FOR JACK TO DO THIS.

I MAKE THE MOTION MAYOR HUNT.

MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND MR. FIFTH.

MAKE SECOND FAVOR, SAY AYE.

A MOTION CARRIED.

THANK YOU GENTLEMEN.

THANK YOU JACK.

ALRIGHT, NEXT ONE IS MIND DISCUSS AND CONSIDER APPROVING ALLOCATIONS.

DID WE ON WE GOT NUMBER 10, DAN.

I'M SORRY.

TREE TRIMMING.

JACK, YOU'RE BACK UP.

I PUT MY CHECK ON 10 INSTEAD OF NINE HERE.

I DO HAVE ONE MORE OF 'EM.

ADVERTISING A BID FOR ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR TREE TRIMMING FOR ALL PRECINCTS.

I DO CONSIDER

[10. Jack Sebastian: Discuss/Consider advertising a bid for an annual contract for tree trimming for all precincts.]

SO THAT'S BEEN A COMMON, UH, QUESTION'S COME UP.

I THINK WE USE DIFFERENT VENDORS EACH, EACH PRECINCT AND, AND I SEE WHERE WE NEED TO HAVE A CONTRACT.

SO I'LL NEED TO GET WITH YOU GENTLEMEN TO KIND OF DETERMINE SOME TYPE OF SPECIFICATION.

CURRENTLY WE JUST GO OUT THERE, I GUESS ON THE ROAD AND SAY, HEY, WHAT'S THE PRICE FOR THIS STRETCH OF MM-HMM.

PROPERTY.

BUT, BUT I'M SEEING MORE AND MORE, UH, TREE TRIMMING AND, AND THE PRICES IS GOING UP.

I THINK IT'S TIME TO HAVE A, A BID GO OUT, BUT WE'LL HAVE TO SIT DOWN.

MAYBE IT'S JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, A GUY WITH A CHAINSAW SO MUCH PER HOUR.

I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU HOW YOU DO THAT BUT, WELL I CAN GET, WE, WE USED A COUPLE OF 'EM LAST YEAR AND I DON'T MIND SITTING DOWN HELPING OUT THE RFP ON THAT, ON WHAT WE EXPECT KIND OF BASED OFF OF UH, WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR.

THE MAIN THING I ASKED JACK TO PUT THIS ON THERE BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING ROAD SEASON AND EVERYBODY STARTS WORKING.

UH, WE'LL GET THE STORM AND IT SHUTS OUR ROAD PROJECTS DOWN.

SO I'M TRYING TO GET SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN KEEP, INSTEAD OF SHUTTING THE GUYS DOWN, PUTTING 'EM ON TREES THAT WE CAN HIRE A CONTRACTOR COME IN AND UH, UH, TAKE THE TREES DOWN SO THE GUYS CAN STAY ON THE ROAD.

SO THIS IS MOSTLY TO BE USED DURING THAT TYPE OF YEAH, JUST WE NEED THEM SO THAT THE GUYS ARE, LIKE I SAID, THE UH, JUST AS A SUPPORT FOR THEM.

I USED THEM LAST YEAR 'CAUSE WE HAD SEVERAL LARGE TREES THAT ARE, UH, DANGEROUS.

ABOUT 150 YEAR OLD TREES THAT WERE, IT'S VERY DANGEROUS TO TAKE DOWN.

SO, UH, I DIDN'T WANT THE GUYS GO SO WE FIGURED WE CONTRACTED OUT TO EXPORT.

THAT'S WHAT, AND I WANTED MAKE SURE THAT IT WASN'T JUST TREE TRIMMING 'CAUSE THAT'S WHEN I USE 'EM IS WHEN WE HAVE A BIG TREE.

LIKE YOU TALK ABOUT IT'S REALLY TOO DANGEROUS FOR OUR GUYS TO BE DOING IT AND GET THE EXPERTS BID THAT ONE OUT AND TREE MONKEYS THAT GO UP THERE AND CLIMB ON TREES.

SO, OKAY.

JUDGE, I, I'D LIKE TO SEE IF POSSIBLE WE'LL GET ONE OR TWO COMMISSIONERS TOGETHER AND THEN SIT DOWN AND, AND WRITE SOME, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET THAT ROPE BY FROM TBC THE WAY THEY BID IT OUT AND THE SAME WAY WITH FARMERS.

'CAUSE THEY'RE THE ONE GUYS THAT FARM THAT OUT ALL THE TIME.

THAT'D BE A GOOD RESOURCE.

THAT, THAT WOULD BE, AND IT MIGHT EVEN BE A CONTRACT WE COULD USE.

YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO TBC AND FARMERS OR YOU KNOW, THOSE TWO GUYS AND SEE WHAT KIND OF CONTRACTS SINCE WE COULD ENTER LOCAL DON'T YOU.

IF YOU ON TOP OF THEM AND THEN GET TOMMY IN THERE WITH YOU, THEN Y'ALL.

'CAUSE WE HAD A COUPLE BIDS LAST YEAR.

I MEAN WHERE, YOU KNOW, ANYBODY CAN BID AND IT MIGHT JUST BE A GUY WITH A PICKUP TRUCK TRAILER AND A CHAINSAW AND YOU GOT A BIG TREE LIKE THAT.

IT'S GOT, YOU KNOW, BEES ALL IN IT AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

IT'S JUST, I I'D RATHER USE A PROFESSIONAL COMPANY.

THAT'S WHY WE WANT DO, BECAUSE MOM AND POP MAY BE BUSY.

YOU'LL NEVER SEE 'EM.

THAT'LL BE OKAY WITH YOU.

IT WILL BE OKAY.

AND PICK WELL THE OTHER GUYS WHO WANNA VOLUNTEER TO GO WITH YOU AND IT, AND IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA BUT WE, WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT MOWING AS WELL.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT TRASH PICKUP? LIKE WE TALKED TO THE SHERIFF SINCE WE KIND OF SAME GENERAL DEAL ALL CONTRACTING FOR IF YOU SO CHOOSE OR JUST LET ME KNOW.

WE'LL SIT DOWN AND WRITE SOME UP IT.

SO I NEED A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER MOORE MAKES A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND MR. PHILLIPS MAKE SECOND.

[11. Judge Allen: Discuss/Consider approving allocations of the Family Protection Fee to Lone Star CASA, Inc., Kaufman County Children's Emergency Shelter, The Genesis Center, and the Kaufman County Children's Advocacy Center in equal shares.]

DISCUSS.

CONSIDER APPRO THE ALLOCATIONS FOR THE FAMILY PROTECTION FEE TO LONE STAR CASA KAMAN COUNTY CHILDREN'S EMERGENCY SHELTER, THE GENESIS CENTER AND THE KAMAN COUNTY CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY CENTER IN EQUAL SHARES.

IT'S SOMETHING WE DO EVERY YEAR, SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF PROVING IT.

ANY QUESTIONS NEED A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

MR. PHIS MAKES A MOTION.

IT'S, UH, DISCUSSED AND CONSIDER APPOINTING BRANDY BEN HUSS AS INTERIM COUNTY AUDITOR.

MR. BARR MAKES A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? SECOND.

[12. Judge Allen: Discuss/Consider appointing Brandi VanHuss as the interim Kaufman County Auditor effective February 9, 2024.]

AND THAT'S, I GOT THE WRONG DATE ON THAT.

THAT'S EFFECTIVE AS OF TODAY.

MS. KAREN HAS RETIRED AND SO SHE'LL BE THE INTERIM, UH, AUDITOR UNTIL SUCH TIME AS WE APPOINT ONE.

I'M I'M GOING MAKE A MOTION TO DO THAT TOO.

SHE'S SHE'S A GOOD PERSON.

BEEN DOING IT A LONG TIME.

YEP.

HAS A COUPLE MASTER'S DEGREES IN AND NOW SO SHE OUGHT HANDLE THAT PRETTY WELL.

SO COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

SHE'S

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BLUSHING.

, I'LL SECOND.

MR. WAR MAKES SECOND.

THAT WILL BE JANUARY 30.

THANK.

I KNOW SHE'LL TAKE CARE OF US.

[13. Judge Allen: Discuss/Consider exiting regular meeting and enter a public hearing.]

13.

DISCUSSING REGULAR MEETING DADDY'S BLUSHING MORE THAN SHE IS DADDY'S PROUD.

OH.

AND TO A PUBLIC HEARING.

HEY, SO I NEED A MOTION TO EXIT REGULAR MEETING.

ENTER A PUBLIC HEARING.

MR. BARR MAKES A MOTION.

IT, UH, THAT, UH, 10 0 2 MM-HMM.

AS A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE INPUT REGARDING NOT ALLOWING THROUGH TRUCKS AND PLACING NO THROUGH TRUCK SIGNS ON THE FOLLOWING COUNTY ROAD IN PRECINCT THREE.

A AYE.

MOTION CARRIES NUMBER 14 THEN

[14. Public Hearing: To receive input regarding not allowing Thru Trucks and placing "No Thru Truck" signs on the following county road within Pet 3: County Road 346]

AND THAT'LL BE COUNTY ROAD 3 46.

IS ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK TO THIS ISSUE? I DON'T LOOK LIKE THERE IS.

DON'T SAY LIKE, OKAY.

ANY COMMENTS? NO.

YEAH, I, I'D LIKE TO COMMENT ON THIS.

UH, WE, WE'VE HAD NO THROUGH TRUCKS SIGNS THERE FOR QUITE SOME TIME BECAUSE THE ROCK PIT THAT WAS AROUND THE CORNER THERE, UM, AND THEY FINALLY FINISHED THEIR HAUL ROAD AND THEY'VE GOT IT BUILT AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE USING IT.

SO THERE'S NO REASON FOR 'EM TO BE ON THAT ROAD PERIOD.

UH, THEY'VE DONE EXCESSIVE DAMAGE TO THE ROAD.

THEY HAVE PAID FOR OUR GUYS, MY GUYS TO FIX THE ROAD PAST.

WE'RE HAVING SOME ISSUE WITH 'EM RIGHT NOW ABOUT FIXING SINCE THEY'VE LEFT.

BUT THEY STILL HAVE TRUCKS THAT ARE COMING DOWN THAT ROAD AND THEY'RE HAVING TO TURN AROUND AND COME BACK AND ALL THIS STUFF'S GOING ON.

I'M WORKING WITH THEM, WITH OUR COSO TO TRY AND GET SOME SIGNS PUT UP ON 27 28 TO SHOW 'EM WHICH WAY TO GO.

UH, BUT, UH, IF THERE'S ANY WAY THAT WE COULD DO NO TRUCKS, IT'D BE BEST, UH, BECAUSE THERE'S NO REASON FOR 'EM TO BE DOWN THAT ROAD ANYMORE.

UH, SO THAT'S WHAT WE PUT ON.

THERE WAS NO TRUCKS INSTEAD OF NO THROUGH TRUCKS.

DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT'D BE A POSSIBILITY OR NOT, BUT WE WANTED TO.

SEE WHAT WE COULD DO WITH THAT.

NOW IS THERE AN ENTRANCE OFF OF THAT COUNTY ROAD INTO THE QUARRY? IT IS, BUT IT'S CLOSED.

THEY'VE CLOSED THAT ENTRANCE.

UH, AND THEY HAVE TO ENTER AND EXIT ON 27, 28 JUST NORTH OF US.

THERE A LITTLE WAYS.

THEY, THEY GET DOWN THERE, THEY HAVE TO TURN AROUND AND GO BACK AND GO AROUND.

REALIZE THAT.

THE REASON I ASK THAT IS 'CAUSE I HAD TO DEAL WITH THE WATERMELON WAREHOUSE DOWN THERE.

THAT IF THEY'RE THE LOG WAY LONG'S WRITTEN, IF THERE'S AN ENTRANCE OR EXIT ONTO THAT ROAD, WE CAN'T ENFORCE THAT.

EVEN IF IT'S NO, YOU CAN ENFORCE ANY OTHER TRUCK GOING THROUGH THERE.

BUT IF, IF THEY'RE USING THAT ENTRANCE OR EXIT, THEN BY LAW WE CAN'T CITE 'EM FOR THAT.

SO I JUST MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO THEY CLOSED, THEY CLOSED THE ENTRANCE.

YEAH, IF IT'S CLOSED, THAT'S A GOOD THING.

THEIR REPRESENTATIVE TOLD ME THAT THEY'VE CLOSED THAT ENTRANCE AND THEY'RE NOT ALLOWING ANYONE IN OR OUT OF THAT GATE AT ALL ANYMORE.

EVERYTHING HAS TO GO THROUGH THE NORTH GATE NOW.

THE OTHER END.

SO IT'S LIKE AN ISSUE THEN.

ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT THEN.

SEE, COULD JUST LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS.

NO, THROUGH TRUCKS.

I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? I MEAN 'CAUSE NOBODY'S GOING THERE BUT THEY, BUT THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM IS SOME OF 'EM ARE STILL GOING DOWN IN THERE AND THEY'RE HAVING TURN AROUND AND COME BACK OUT AND IF WE HAD SIGNS, LETTING 'EM KNOW NO TRUCKS ARE ALLOWED ON THIS ROAD, YOU HAVE TO GO TO.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE.

SO NOW I NEED A MOTION

[15. Judge Allen: Discuss/Consider exiting public hearing and enter back into the regular meeting.]

TO EXIT PUBLIC HEARING.

GO BACK INTO REGULAR MEETING.

MR. BARR MAKES A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND MR. PHILLIPS, MAKE SECOND.

16 HERE THEN IS DISCUSSED NOT ALLOWING UH, THROUGH TRUCKS.

NUMBER

[16. Judge Allen: Discuss/Consider not allowing Thru Trucks and placing "No Thru Truck" signs on the following county road within Pet 3; County Road 346]

NO, THROUGH TRUCKS FOLLOWING COUNTY ROAD PRECINCT THREE.

COUNTY ROAD 3 46.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER BARR MAKES A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER MOORE MAKES SECOND.

IT'S YOUR TURN TO DISCUSS CONSIDER LINE, ITEM AND BUDGET TRANSFERS OR CORRECTIONS.

OKAY, MS. AUDITOR,

[17. Auditor; Discuss/Consider line-item and budget transfers/corrections.]

GOOD MORNING.

UM, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU.

I KNOW I HAVE SOME BIG SHOES TO FILL, BUT I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY, UM, TO STEP UP IN THE INTERIM.

UM, SO TODAY WE HAVE, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? LINE ITEM TRANSFERS.

SO YOU WERE SUBMITTED, UM, LINE ITEM TRANSFERS AND BUDGET AMENDMENTS PRIOR TO COURT.

UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I CAN ANSWER THOSE, BUT WE ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL.

YOU LOOK GOOD TO ME.

, ANY QUESTIONS? IF NOT, I NEED A MOTION.

NOPE.

MR. PHIS MAKES A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND MR. TO MAKES SECOND.

18, MS. AUDITOR, AGAIN, UH, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT OR FINANCIAL INFORMATION IS PROVIDED BY THE AUDITOR.

A MOTION CARRIES NUMBER

[18. Auditor; Discuss/Consider claims for payment and/or Financial Information as provided by the County Auditor.]

YES MA'AM.

SO THIS WEEK WE HAVE ACCOUNTS PAYABLE, INVOICES, AND JUROR CHECKS FOR A TOTAL OF $1,942,913 AND 32 CENTS.

AND WE ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL.

NEED A MOTION?

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MR. BARB MAKES A MOTION.

MR. MOORE MAKES A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION

[19. Adjourn Meeting]

TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING.

I THOUGHT YOU MAY.

MR. PHIS MAKES THE MOTION.

MR. BAR MAKES SECOND.