Feb 27, 2024 Commissioners Court

HAVE ANY ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE THIS MORNING? WELL, I HAVE TWO ITEMS. NUMBER ONE FRIDAY, SOME OF Y'ALL WERE THERE.

ANYONE

[1. ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.]

WE WERE FINALLY ABLE, THE GOVERNOR APPOINTED TRACY AS OUR 489TH DISTRICT COURT JUDGE.

WE HAD A SWEARING IN CEREMONY THERE AT THE JUSTICE CENTER.

IT WENT OFF EXTREMELY WELL.

OF COURSE, WITH THAT COMES A LOT OF, UH, MIXED EMOTIONS AND CHANGES AND THE ACT LIKE THAT.

AND SO FOR THE PAST, UH, MAYBE 12 YEARS, WE'RE LOSING ONE OF OUR EMPLOYEES.

MS. ANNABELL IS SKIPPING OUT ON ME.

I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT , BUT SHE, SHE IS PASTOR COURT REPORTING TEST AND SHE'LL BE THE NEW COURT REPORTER THERE STARTING TOMORROW MORNING.

SO SHE COULDN'T FIND A BETTER BOSS.

JUST SINCE YOU SAID THAT, IT IS THE FIRST OF THE MONTH COMING UP.

SO MARCH 2ND, THERE'S GONNA BE ANOTHER MONTHLY CLEANUP IN TERRELL.

IN TERRELL AT THE CONVENIENCE STATION IN TERRELL.

IS THERE ANYTHING THEY CAN'T BRING? WHY YOU MAKE ME READ THIS? YOU SHOULD HAVE KNOWN .

YOU'RE THE TRASH GUY.

HMM.

NO CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS, DUMP TRAILERS AND NO ENCLOSED CATTLE.

NOW YOU'RE GONNA MAYBE TRY TO MEMORIZE IT, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

[2. CONSENT AGENDA]

CONSENT AGENDA.

WE HAVE SEVERAL ITEMS THERE.

IS THERE ANY CORRECTIONS TO BE MADE COMMENTS? MANY.

IF NOT, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

MR. PHIS MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

MR. HUNT MAKES A SECOND.

MOTION CARRIE.

[3. Laura Hughes: Present/Recognize the Five Star Award received by the Kaufman County Clerk's Office for their work in Vital Registration.]

NUMBER THREE IS LAURA HUGHES.

UH, TO PRESENT, RECOGNIZE THE FIVE STAR AWARD RECEIVED BY THE KAMAN COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE FOR THEIR WORK IN VITAL REGISTRATIONS.

SO, MS. LAR, IF YOU AND ALL YOUR CREW WILL COME FORWARD, WE'D LIKE TO PRESENT YOU WITH THIS AWARD AND GET SOMEONE TO TAKE A PICTURE.

DO I GET TO GO THROUGH MY SPEECH? DO YOU WANT TO? I HAVE.

YOU MAY GO RIGHT AHEAD.

UM, I HAVE BEEN CLERK GOING ON 24 YEARS AND ONE OF THE BEST PARTS OF MY JOB IS BRAGGING ON MY EMPLOYEES AND SHARING WITH Y'ALL THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN WITH THE REST OF KAUFFMAN COUNTY.

SO, UM, WHAT I BRING BEFORE THE COURT TODAY IS THE 2013.

IT'S KAUFFMAN COUNTY'S 18TH, TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SERVICES FIVE STAR AWARD.

AND I ALSO BRING THE LADIES WHO HAVE WORKED DILIGENTLY EVERY DAY TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS TO GET THIS AWARD.

UM, THE, THE AN, THE STATE ANNUALLY AWARDS THIS TO LOCAL REGISTERS WHO EXCEED, GO ABOVE AND BEYOND.

THE, UH, IN REGISTERING AND SAFEGUARDING ARE RESIDENTS VITAL RECORDS, WHICH ARE THEIR MOST IMPORTANT LIFE DOCUMENTS.

AND I'M HAPPY TO BRING THE AWARD BACK, BUT I'M EVEN HAPPIER AND PROUDER TO ACKNOWLEDGE THESE LADIES.

AND I HOPE THAT YOU WILL HELP ME IN THANKING THEM FOR A JOB.

WELCOME.

WELL, THEY DO STAY EXTREMELY BUSY 'CAUSE I'M THERE ABOUT ONCE A WEEK WALKING THROUGH AND THEY'RE ALL WITH THEIR HEADS DOWN WORKING.

SO IT IS APPRECIATED.

SO THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH.

YOU COME IN THERE.

YOU WANT US DOWN THERE? YEAH, LET'S ALL GO DOWN HERE.

UH, THEY'RE GONNA COME FROM BEHIND US,

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AWAY FROM PODIUM.

WANT TO IN THE BACK? YEAH.

EVERYBODY RUNNING THE PICTURE TAKER? I'M THE PICTURE TAKE RIGHT HERE.

I'M THE PICTURE TAKER.

YOU HAVE TWO? WILL YOU LIKE TO DRAW? NOT ME.

YOU'RE THERE.

WAIT, I SEE I NEED TO DO IT.

I HAVE ONE THAT ME TOO.

WELL, YOU COLD.

NUMBER FOUR, MS. TERESA FLOYD, WHERE ARE YOU? MISS TERESA? UH, PRESENT AND ACCEPT THE TAX ASSESSOR'S COLLECTOR'S MONTHLY REPORT FOR TAX AND AUTO COLLECTIONS FOR THE MONTH OF DECEMBER OF 23 AND JANUARY OF 24.

IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE EMPLOYEES GETTING AWARDS.

THAT'S GOOD.

THAT MEANS THEY'RE DOING A GOOD, GREAT JOB.

OKAY,

[4. Teressa Floyd: Present/Accept the Tax Assessor-Collector's Monthly Property Tax and Auto Collections Reports for December 2023 and January 2024.]

ALRIGHT, SO THE AUTO REPORT FOR DECEMBER OF 2023, WE HAD, UH, COLLECTIONS OF 2,404,000 934 48.

AND THE COUNTY RECEIVED 135,620 AND 45 CENTS OF THAT FOR THAT MONTH.

AND LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO THE DECEMBER UH, PROPERTY.

OUR DEFERRAL AMOUNT IS A HUNDRED AND EIGHT, SIX OH ONE

SO FOR THE MONTH OF DECEMBER, OUR CURRENT COLLECTIONS WERE 6 MILLION 259 1 93 24.

OUR DELINQUENT WAS 85,501 AND 11 CENTS FOR A TOTAL COLLECTED OF 6 MILLION 344, 694 AND 35 CENTS.

UH, THE DEFERRAL THAT'S UNPAID IS 122,000 140 92.

SO ON THE ROAD BRIDGE, OUR CURRENT COLLECTION WAS, UH, 1,000,511 $607 AND 25 CENTS.

OUR DELINQUENT WAS 17,000 721 59 FOR A TOTAL COLLECTED OF 1 MILLION 529 328 84 FOR THE ROME BRIDGE.

AND THE DEFERRAL ON THAT, THAT'S UNPAID IS 23,121.

EVEN.

WE HAD, UM, 60 LOOKS LIKE, UM, 60 ACRES IN ROLLBACK IN PRECINCT TWO.

AND THEN, UH, FOR A TOTAL TRANSACTIONS OF 8,873 FOR THAT MONTH.

UM, LET, LET'S SEE, LET'S GO TO THREE ACRES.

ROLLBACK.

JANUARY WAS A BIGGER MONTH.

WHAT'S THAT? HOW MANY ACRES WAS THAT? 60 ACRES? 60 IN THE AMOUNT.

8,000 FOR TRANSACTIONS WAS 8,000.

YEAH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ROLLBACK ON THAT ONE IS.

DON'T SAY THE ROLLBACK.

IT'S GONNA BE MORE THAN 8,000.

I'M SAYING THOUSAND .

IT SHOULDN'T BE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT.

I'M SAYING I HEARD HER SAY 8,000.

I SAID, OH, THAT DOESN'T TELL MUCH.

THIS TRANSACTION ALL WELL, OTTO, FOR JANUARY WE COLLECTED 2,704,000 865 75 AND THE COUNTY RECEIVED 548,100 2180 OF THAT AMOUNT COLLECTED.

MM-HMM.

AND THEN OF COURSE THE, I DON'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE TRANSACTIONS 'CAUSE THEY'RE WAY HIGH.

UM, OKAY.

SO FOR THE JANUARY COLLECTIONS, THIS IS WHAT EVERYBODY'S BEEN WAITING ON.

THIS IS WHERE WE GOT THE, THE BULK OF OUR COLLECTIONS FOR THE YEAR.

SO WE COLLECTED ON CURRENT KAUFMAN COUNTY 51 MILLION 778, 670 $2 AND 97 CENTS.

AND DELINQUENT WAS 188,000 988 56 FOR A TOTAL COLLECTED OF 51 MILLION 967 6 61 53.

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AND 9 CENTS.

SO ON ROAD AND BRIDGE WE COLLECTED 12 MILLION 758, 788 AND 61 CENTS.

OUR DELINQUENT WAS 40,000 327 53 FOR A TOTAL COLLECTED OF 12 MILLION 7 99, UH, 116 14 CENTS.

AND DEFERRAL WAS 20,000 684 78.

WE HAVE A LOT OF ROLLBACKS.

PRE PRECINCT ONE HAD 133.29 ACRES, PRECINCT TWO A HUNDRED AND EIGHTY THREE 0.257 ACRES.

AND PRECINCT THREE HAD 29.709 ACRES.

AND WE DID A TOTAL OF TRANSACTIONS FOR THE MONTH OF JANUARY OF 24,188.

FOR THE TAXES.

THAT'S A LOT.

LOT.

AND OUR PERCENTAGES ARE ABOVE LAST YEAR'S PERCENTAGES, SO WE'RE HAPPY WITH THAT.

ANY OTHER ISSUES OR REQUESTS THAT YOU HAVE AT THIS TIME? I THINK WE'RE GOOD.

I APPRECIATE THE REPORTS.

ALWAYS VERY GOOD AND ACCURATE AND EASY TO READ.

ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? IF NOT, ANY MOTION TO ACCEPT? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER BARR MAKES A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

MR. MOORE MAKES A SECOND.

WHERE'S OUR TREASURER? MR. CHUCK.

[5. Chuck Mohnkern: Present/Accept the Treasurer's Monthly Report for January 2024.]

PRESENT AND ACCEPT THE TREASURER'S MONTHLY REPORT FOR JANUARY OF 24.

GOOD MORNING JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.

MORNING.

WE, UM, ENDED THE, UH, MONTH OF JANUARY WITH $49,583,000 IN OUR GENERAL FUND.

WE EARNED INTEREST IN AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK OF $4,165.

WE EARNED, UH, $384,604 ON OUR TEX POOL AND TEXAS CLASS ACCOUNTS.

AND WE HAD 104,385,000 INVESTED IN BOTH TEX POOL, WELL TEX POOL AND TEXAS CLASS COMBINED AT THE END OF THE MONTH, OUR, UM, AVERAGE YIELD ON SPOOL 5.548 FOR THE MONTH.

AVERAGE YIELD ON TEXAS CLASS 5.5403 FOR THE MONTH.

AT THE, UH, END OF THE MONTH, WE HAD $117,851,436 IN AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK ACCOUNTS.

THOSE ARE ALL THE ACCOUNTS, UH, FOR WHICH THE BANK HAS TO COLLATERALIZE US.

THEY HAD, UM, $55,366,753 IN SECURITIES PLEDGED AGAINST THAT.

PLUS THEY HAD A $70 MILLION LETTER OF, UH, CREDIT FROM THE FEDERAL HOME LOAN BANK IN, UH, DALLAS TO FULLY COLLATERALIZE ALL OF THAT.

SO WE, UH, WERE COLLATERALIZED AT 106%.

AT THAT TIME WE HAD 48% OF OUR CASH INVESTED AND 51% OF IT IN THE BANK.

70 MILLION OF THAT, UH, 117 MILLION, 851,000 THAT WAS IN THE BANK.

70 MILLION OF THAT WAS ACTUALLY BELONGED TO THE, UH, TAX OFFICE.

UH, WE WROTE 381 RECEIPTS DURING THE MONTH, 55 MILLION, UH, COLLECTIONS.

AND THAT IS MY REPORT.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? GOOD.

AS USUAL, WHAT DO YOU, UH, INTEREST RATES ARE GONNA BE HANGING EQUAL, YOU THINK, OR LEVEL OR WHAT DO YOU THE, UH, WHAT'S PROJECTION? FEDERAL RESERVE BANK IN ATLANTA PUTS OUT, UH, UH, MONTHLY REPORTS ON THAT.

AND THEY SAY THAT THEY'LL PROB THEY'LL PROBABLY STAY PRETTY MUCH LIKE THEY ARE UNTIL THE FOURTH QUARTER OF THE YEAR AND WE'LL PROBABLY SEE A LITTLE BIT OF A DROP THERE.

SO, ELECTION YEAR.

SO IT'LL GO TO ABOUT FOUR AND A HALF PERCENT ELECTION.

ABOUT, WHICH IS DO IT YEAH.

WHICH IS THEIR PREDICTION AND YEAH, OF COURSE IT'S A PREDICTION, SO.

ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR OUR TREASURER? IF NOT, ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

MR. HUNT MAKES THE MOTION.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

MR. PHILLIPS MAKES A SECOND.

A MOTION CARRIES.

WE'RE PASSED ON NUMBER SIX

[6. Tandi Smith: Discuss/Consider approval for the Election Administrator and two staff members to attend the iGO Annual Conference and CPL Education Program July 18-25, 2024.]

[7. Rheanne Archer: Discuss/Consider supporting Kaufman County United Way through their Paycheck Giving Program. Employees can opt in to have a certain amount deducted from their pay checks.]

TODAY, NUMBER SEVEN.

MS. R CHAR WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION TO US ABOUT THE, UH, LETTING FOLKS SIGN UP FOR THE UNITED WAY THROUGH THEIR PAYCHECK.

A GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING, RAM.

WOULD CONSIDER, UH, MAKING THAT OPTION BACK TO THE EMPLOYEES.

UM, I KNOW THE COUNTY USED TO HAVE WHERE THE EMPLOYEES WERE ABLE TO GIVE A, IF THEY WANTED TO DONATE.

IT'S NOT A FORCED THING, IT'S JUST AN OPTION ON THE PAYROLLS.

AND I KNOW, UH, WHEN DEB WAS STILL HERE AS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, SHE HAD TALKED TO JIM.

THE OPTIONS THERE, IT JUST WOULD HAVE TO GO LIVE AGAIN.

UM, SO WE'RE JUST ASKING IF Y'ALL

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AS OF RIGHT NOW, THE UNITED WAY OF KAMAN COUNTY ONLY HAS TWO BUSINESSES THAT SUPPORT US.

AND LAST YEAR, JUST WITH TWO BUSINESSES, WE WERE ABLE TO GIVE $57,500 WORTH OF GRANTS AND $12,000 WORTH OF SCHOLARSHIPS TO SENIORS TO GO ON TO COLLEGE OR A TRADE.

SO, AND I'VE GIVEN Y'ALL, SO IF YOU WANNA REVIEW LATER WHAT OUR PARTNER AGENCIES ARE AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.

'CAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW HOW LONG OF A PRESENTATION YOU WANTED ME TO MAKE.

HOW MANY TOTAL DOLLARS DID YOU COLLECT AND HOW MANY WERE GIVEN BACK TO THE COMMUNITY? WE GIVE IT'S 80 20, 80% GOES BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.

HOLD ON JUST A SECOND.

AND OUR, UM, SINCE WE ONLY HAVE TWO BUSINESSES, WE DID HAVE TO CUT DOWN ON PARTNER AGENCIES THIS YEAR.

OUR FISCAL YEAR STARTS IN APRIL.

WE NORMALLY DO 12, BUT THIS YEAR WE WERE ONLY ABLE TO DO EIGHT PARTNER AGENCIES BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE TWO.

WHO ARE YOU SHARING THE MONEY WITH LOCALLY? UM, THE ONES FOR THE 2024 THAT STARTED IN APRIL IS BE HAPPY DAY HAVE CASEY'S PLACE, KAUFFMAN COUNTY RESOURCE CONNECTION, LONE STAR CASA SHARING THE LOVE FOUNDATION, JAKE'S RIDING ROUNDUP.

THE SHARE CENTER IN CAMP SWEENEY.

CAMP SWEENEY IS, UM, IT'S A CAMP FOR CHILDREN WITH DIABETES TO TEACH 'EM HOW TO DEAL WITH DIABETES AND BE ABLE TO GO TO CAMP AND BE A CHILD.

UH, LAST YEAR WE WERE ABLE TO SEND 11 KIDS FROM COMAN COUNTY.

GOOD.

ANY QUESTIONS? NO, I MEAN, AND, AND, AND THIS IS PURELY VOLUNTARY.

IT'S ALL VOLUNTARY.

SO I CHOOSE TO DO THIS.

THERE'S NO PRESSURE ON EMPLOYEES AT ALL.

NO, IT'S PURELY VOLUNTARY.

JUST A TAX.

WE'RE NOT TAKING THE ACTION TODAY.

THIS YES, BUT I I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YEAH, NO, NO, THIS IS, AND IT'S A PRETEXT, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S A TAX WRITE OFF FORM AT THE END OF THE YEAR FOR A 5 0 1 C3.

SO THIS IS JUST FOR Y'ALL IF Y'ALL CAN VOTE ON LATER.

WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE Y'ALL BACK ON BOARD.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY,

[8. Shannon Roden: Discuss/Approve the re-plat of Lot 1 of Hamm Estates located on CR 322 In Precinct 3.]

NUMBER EIGHT.

MS. SHANNON ROADIN DISCUSSION, APPROVE THE REPL OF LOT ONE OF HAMMA ESTATES LOCATED ON COUNTY ROAD 3 22 IN PRECINCT THREE.

SO LOT ONE OF HAMMA ESTATES IS ABOUT 12.4 ACRES AND THE OWNER ALSO OWNS THE LOT BEHIND THAT, WHICH IS ABOUT 31.8 ACRES.

IT'S NOT PART OF THE SUBDIVISION, BUT HE'S RE PLATTING THAT INTO TWO LOTS.

UH, LOT.

ONE H 12.3, LOT ONE B IS 9.8 ACRES.

UM, SINCE HAM ESTATES IS A RECORDED SUBDIVISION, THIS HAD TO FOLLOW THE REPL PROCESS.

UH, THE RESIDENTS OF THE SUBDIVISION AND THE PUBLIC WERE NOTIFIED AND ALL OF THE, UH, APPROVING DOCUMENTATION AND APPROVALS ARE IN THE PACKET THAT WAS SENT.

MM-HMM.

SO, UM, WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR THE APPROVAL FOR THE RELA.

ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? THIS IS IN YOUR PRECINCT.

COMMISSIONER BARBARA MAKES A MOTION.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

MR. COMMISSIONER OR SAY ME COMMISSIONER TOMMY FOR A MINUTE.

MAKES A SECOND.

[9. Shannon Roden: Discuss/Approve the Preliminary Plat of Erin Estates located on Hyde Away Lane and CR 4012 in Precinct 4.]

HAVE THE NEXT ONE.

ALSO DISCUSS AND APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY PLAT OF IRWIN ESTATES LOCATED IN HIDEAWAY LANE COUNTY ROAD 40 12 AND PRECINCT FOUR.

YES MA'AM.

SO ERWIN ESTATES IS ABOUT 10 ACRES AND THE OWNER SPLITTING THAT INTO SIX LOTS.

AND THOSE LOTS RANGE FROM 1.04 TO 1.14 ACRES OF NET USABLE SPACE.

SO WE JUST NEED THE COURT'S APPROVAL FOR THE PRELIMINARY PLAT SO WE CAN MOVE ON WITH THE OFFICIAL CIVIL PLAN REVIEW.

SO YOU SAID ONE LOT IS 1.0, 1.04.

THIS IS A NET USABLE.

THIS IS THEY.

SO WE STILL HAVE THE ONE DEDUCTED.

ALRIGHT, JUST FAX IT OVER.

YEAH, I LOOKED OVER THE DOCUMENT.

JUSTINE SPOKE WITH SHANNON ABOUT IT, SO I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD ON IT.

MR. MOORE MAKES THE MOTION.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

MR. BARB MAKES A SECOND.

A MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU

[10. Jack Sebastian: Discuss/Consider awarding and executing all documents for Bid 24-04 Annual Contract for Custom Built Concrete Culverts.]

MR. JACK.

YOU GOT THE NEXT FOUR OR FIVE.

IT LOOKS LIKE THE FIRST ONE'S DISCUSS, CONSIDER AWARDING AND EXECUTING ALL DOCUMENTS FOR BID 24 DASH OH FOUR ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR CUSTOM BUILT CONCRETE COVERAGE.

YES, SIR.

GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN.

UH, WE RECEIVED ONE BID AND THAT BID WAS FROM MB CONCRETE.

UH, THE 20 BY 18 UNIT IS 90 2008 56.

THE 64 BY 19 IS 1 69 335.

AND IF THE COMMISSIONER'S HAPPY WITH THE SPECS AND, AND THE, UH, PRICING, I'LL MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM JACK? NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THEN I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

MR. MOORE MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

MR. HUNT MAKES A SECOND.

MOTION

[11. Jack Sebastian: Discuss/Consider signing Master Intergovernmental Cooperation Purchasing Agreement with Equalis Group.]

CARRIES.

NUMBER 11, JACK, AGAIN, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER SIGNING MASTER INTERLOCAL CORPORATION PURCHASING AGREEMENT WITH EWIS GROUP.

GENTLEMEN, THIS IS, THIS IS ANOTHER, UH, COOPERATIVE THAT'S COME, COME TO PLAY.

AND, UH,

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THEY'RE LOCAL.

UH, I THINK THEY'RE IN REGION 10 AS FAR AS THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

AND, UH, THEY'RE LIKE BUYBOARD AND, AND TIPS AND UH, JUST BE ANOTHER ONE TO UTILIZE.

SO I DON'T MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE SIGN ON WITH THOSE.

WHAT'S THE MAIN PRODUCTS THAT THEY THEY'RE GONNA BE, THEY'RE GONNA BE LIKE EVERYBODY.

THEY'RE GONNA EVERYONE ELSE.

ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS FOR JACK ON THAT ONE? IF NOT, I NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

MR. PHIS MAKES THE MOTION.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? TOMMY, BE ME.

TOMMY BEAT YOU.

COMMISSIONER

[12. Jack Sebastian: Discuss/Consider entering a contract with Texas Materials for Flex Base Installation on CR 4037 utilizing Dallas/Ellis County Interlocal Agreement.]

MOORE, MAY 2ND.

THANK YOU JACK.

NUMBER 12, DISCUSS, CONSIDER ENTERING A CONTRACT WITH TEXAS METALS MATERIALS FOR FLEX BASE INSTALLATION ON CANYON ROAD 40 37 UTILIZING THE DALLAS ELLIS COUNTY INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.

YES, SIR.

GENTLEMEN, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THE, UH, PROPOSALS ON THE FRONT PAGE MENTIONS, UH, JUST FLEX BASE, BUT THAT DOES INCLUDE ASPHALT INSTALLATION AS WELL.

UH, AND THERE AGAIN, IT IS ON THE CO-OP, IT MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS.

UH, TOTAL PRICE IS $733,307 AND 12 CENTS.

AND I WOULD MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION.

SO THAT'S FLEX BASE AND ASPHALT.

THERE'S TWO, UH, CONTRACTS THERE.

ONES FOR THE FLEX BASE AND THEN THE OTHERS FOR THE ASPHALT REASON THEY'RE SPLIT IS HE GIVE ME THE OPTION OF US SUPPLYING THE ROCK FOR THE FOUR INCH, UH, ON THE ROADWAY OR IF HE SUPPLIES THE ROCK.

SO WE WENT AHEAD WITH, TO KEEP US MOVING IN OUR PROJECTS, HE'S GONNA INSTALL THE FLEX SPACE.

SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S TWO CONTRACTS.

ONE FOR FLEX SPACE, ONE FOR ASAL.

SO YOU PUT DOWN IN FORM OF A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

MR. MOORE MAKES THE MOTION.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND.

MR. HUNT MAKES SECOND.

NUMBER

[13. Jack Sebastian: Discuss/Consider entering a contract with Texas Materials for Flex Base Installation on CR 4044 utilizing Dallas/Ellis County Interlocal Agreement.]

13, JACK.

UH, GENTLEMAN, THIS IS, I'M SORRY, .

DISCUSS, CONSIDER ENTERING A CONTRACT WITH TEXAS MATERIALS FOR FLEX BASE ON COUNTY ROAD 40 44 UTILIZING A DALLAS ELLIS COUNTY INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.

AND THIS IS THE SAME WAY, SAME WAY.

IT STATES FLEX BASE, BUT IT DOES INCLUDE ASPHALT, UH, AND ASPHALT.

YES SIR.

AND THE TOTAL, UH, BID PRICE IS $761,920 AND 14 CENTS.

AND I WOULD MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION.

ANYONE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? NOT ANY ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

MR. MOORE MAKES THE MOST OF IT.

SECOND.

MR. BARR MAKES A SECOND.

THANK YOU JACKIE.

APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.

TOMMY, NEED TO SIGN THOSE MS. MONIQUE.

[14. Monique Hunter: Discuss/Consider approving Interlocal Cooperation Agreement for ETJ authority-land use regulations between Kaufman County and the city of Post Oak Bend.]

SHE'S GONNA DISCUSS, CONSIDER PROVING THE INTERLOCAL COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT FOR ETJ AUTHORITY LAND USE REGULATIONS BETWEEN KAUFMAN COUNTY AND THE CITY OF POST OAK BEING GOOD MORNING.

THEY'RE SLOWLY TRICKLING IN.

SO WE GOT ANOTHER ONE RENEWED.

AND, UM, THIS IS JUST COMING TO THE COURT FOR ACCEPTANCE AND APPROVAL.

IT'D BE NICE THEY COULD ALL GET HERE IN ONE MONTH AND BE WELL, WOULD IT WOULD BE 'CAUSE IT WOULD BE SO EASY, BUT YES, .

THAT'S OKAY.

AS LONG AS WE GET THEM.

HOW MANY MORE DO YOU LIKE? UH, 12 SOMETHING.

THAT'S A LOT OF FOOD.

I, IS THERE ANY, IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO AS FAR AS MAKING CONTACT FOR CITIES IN OUR PRECINCT FORWARD? UM, YES.

FORWARD.

THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC.

'CAUSE WE SENT OUT A, A NOTICE WE SENT OUT A USB AND MAILED THEM ALL THE OPTIONS.

WE EMAILED, WE HAD A MEETING AND THEY WERE INVITED.

SO IF YOU CAN REACH OUT TO THEM, I'LL GIVE YOU A LIST YEAH.

OF THOSE.

A LIST.

EMAIL THEM A LIST AND THEY CAN WORK ON THAT.

TO TRY TO GET IT TAKEN CARE OF ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

WE HAVE A COUPLE THAT WERE WORKING OUT SOME OF THE WORDING AND I'LL KEEP THOSE OFF THE LIST 'CAUSE WE ARE IN TOUCH.

WE'RE JUST WORKING OUT THE WORDING.

SO NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

MR. PHIPPS MAKES THE MOTION TO I HAVE A SECOND.

SECOND BAR.

MAKES A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVORS SAY AYE.

CAN I MAKE A CLARIFICATION REAL QUICK? JUST SO SURE.

ON THOSE TWO CONTRACTS WE JUST APPROVE.

AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE, UH, ON THAT PRICE OF THE 700, UH, THOUSAND THAT'S FOR THE ASPHALT PORTION OF IT.

THEN THE OTHER, THERE'S TWO CONTRACTS EACH ONE.

THE OTHER ONE WOULD BE FOR 2 82.

SO THOSE WOULD BE ADDED TOGETHER.

RIGHT? I SO JUST MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTOOD THAT.

MR. ELLE, COME FORWARD PLEASE MA'AM.

[15. Zennell Andy: Discuss/Consider accepting rebate check from Education Service Center, Region 20 receiving into Employee Appreciation Fund.]

SHE WANTS TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER ACCEPTING A REBATE CHECK FROM THE EDUCATION SERVICE CENTER REGION 20 RECEIVING INTO THE EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION FUND.

THAT THOSE CHECKS BE DEPOSITED INTO THE EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION FUND.

SO THIS IS JUST, UM, ANOTHER ONE OF THE PURCHASING CO-OPS THAT WE'RE A PART OF.

AND SOME OF THE CO-OPS WILL GIVE US A REBATE BASED ON WHAT THE EMPLOYEES SPEND.

SO THAT CHECK IT.

THE FIRST CHECK ACTUALLY IS AN AMOUNT OF 1060 $3 AND 75 CENTS.

AND SO I'M JUST ASKING THAT, UM, FROM HERE ON OUT

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AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, HASN'T IT? UM, WELL THIS CO-OP IS NEW.

NEW ONE.

THIS IS THE VERY FIRST CHECK.

HADN'T BEEN FOR THAT ONE YET.

IF NOT, YOU NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

MR. PHIPPS MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

MR. HUNT MAKES A SECOND.

[16. Shawn Mayfield: Present/Accept 2023 Racial Profile Report for PCT 1 Constable.]

SEAN MAYFIELD PRESENT.

ACCEPT THE 23 RACIAL PROFILING REPORT FOR PRECINCT ONE CONSTABLE.

LIKE I SAID, I'M HERE SUBMITTING THE, UH, RACIAL PROFILING REPORT FOR 2023.

THE OFFICE CONDUCTED 495 TRAFFIC STOPS AND HAD NO FORMAL COMPLAINTS FILED.

THAT'S A GOOD RECORD.

LIKE THE NO COMPLAINTS? YES.

ME TOO.

THE MOTION TO APPROVE.

THEN I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

MR. HUNT MAKES MOTION TO APPROVE.

HAVE A SECOND.

SECOND.

NOPE.

THINK I MR. BARBER WON THIS ONE.

MR. MADE A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SIDE OVER THERE.

[17. Judge Allen: Discuss/Consider fiber optic installation permits for Open Infra and procedures for use of Right of Way of the county.]

NUMBER 16 IS MINE.

DISCUSS SITTER FIBER OPTIC INSTALLATION PERMITS FOR OPEN, INFRA AND PROCEDURES FOR USE.

THE RIGHT OF WAY OF COUNTY.

OF THE COUNTY.

DOES ANYONE HERE FROM OPEN INFRA? YES.

YES SIR.

COME FORWARD PLEASE.

IF YOU WOULD GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

MY NAME IS CHRIS HARRISON.

I'M HERE REPRESENTING OPEN INFRA.

WE'RE BASED IN DENTON.

AND WHAT'S YOUR POSITION THERE? MY POSITION IS CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER.

UH, WE'VE HAD LOTS OF CONVERSATION BACK AND FORTH.

I KNOW YOU HAVE PULLED OUT OF KAUFMAN COUNTY, WHAT, THREE OR FOUR WEEKS AGO? YEP.

SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND I KNOW WE HAD SOME ISSUES TO RESOLVE AND I'M GET, I GUESS YOU'RE HERE TO INFORM US OF WHAT RECOMMENDATIONS YOU HAVE FOR US TO CONTINUE AND GET FIBER OPTIC TO THE PEOPLE WHO NEED IT.

WILL BE ON SITE FOR THAT.

SO TO GIVE YOU SORT OF A BRIEF ON OPEN INFRA, I THINK, UM, AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE COMMITTED OVERALL IN KAUFMAN COUNTY TO INFRASTRUCTURE TO THE VALUE OF $40 MILLION TO BRING FIBER TO THE RURAL AREAS AND THE COMMUNITIES.

THESE ARE AREAS POTENTIALLY WHERE WE WOULD SAY SOME OF THE BIGGER PLAYERS LIKE THE AT AND TS, THEY, THEY WILL NOT GO.

UM, WE'RE ALSO PRIVATELY FUNDED.

I KNOW THERE'S BEEN LOTS OF TALK ABOUT WE GET THE GOVERNMENT GRANTS.

WE DON'T.

SO THIS IS A PRIVATELY FUNDED ORGANIZATION TO BRING THE, TO THE RURAL COMMUNITIES.

UM, AND I KNOW WE HAVE HAD ISSUES WITH SOME OF OUR CONTRACT.

I THINK WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS BEFORE.

WE'VE GONE THROUGH A CHANGE HERE WHERE WE HAVE NOW BROUGHT IN NEW CONTRACTORS THAT WE HAVE VETTED SOME OF THE OLD ONES THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY HERE.

AND NOW WE'VE REMOVED FROM OUR PREFERRED CONTRACTOR LIST WITH LIGHTS UP CONSTRUCTION.

AS PART OF THAT WE'VE COMMITTED TO, I THINK YOU'VE ALL SEEN NOW THE MOU, THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH REGARDS TO BASICALLY THE EIGHT ONE ONE CALL BEFORE YOU DIG MEMO.

WHICH, WHICH STIPULATES THAT WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THE LOCATE IN THE CORRECT AREAS.

WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE FOLLOW THE CORRECT PROCEDURES WITH REGARDS TO DEPTHS.

WE WILL TAKE PICTURES, WE WILL PHONE BEFORE WE TO THE, TO THE COUNTY BEFORE WE DIG.

WE'LL HAVE SUPERVISORS BASED ON SITE BECAUSE WE KNOW OKAY, SUPERVISOR WILL COME AND GO AND CHECK.

WE'VE COMMITTED TO HAVING SUPERVISORS THERE FULL-TIME WITH THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES ALSO, UM, ALSO WITH THE ESCALATION PATH WE'VE PUT IN AS PART OF THE MOU THERE.

UM, SO I THINK AS, AS OPEN INFRA, WE'VE INSTRUCTED OUR CONTRACTOR AND LIGHTS UP CONSTRUCTION, WHOEVER THEY BRING IN FOR THE VETTING PROCEDURES AND WITH THE MOU THAT WE ARE COVERING ALL NECESSARY BASES TO TRY AND MITIGATE AGAINST ANY OF THE POTENTIAL ISSUES YOU MAY FIND.

NOW, I I MUST ADD HERE THAT OBVIOUSLY WHEN YOU GO INTO THE RURAL AREAS, THAT WE, WE HAVE PLANS, WE DO ALL OF THE PREREQUISITE AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO LOCATE, BUT OCCASIONALLY SOME OF THESE, UH, UTILITIES MAY NOT BE LOCATED OR THE PLANS MAY NOT BE AS ACCURATE.

'CAUSE YOU ARE GOING INTO RURAL LOCATIONS WHERE WE KNOW MAYBE SOME OF THE PLANS AREN'T QUITE AS, AS UP TO DATE.

AGAIN, WE'LL DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MITIGATE, UM, THINGS DO HAPPEN.

UM, HOWEVER, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THE TEAMS ARE ON SITE.

WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, WE HAVE REPAIR KIT IMMEDIATELY TO TRY AND REPAIR.

THE TEAM

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AGAIN, THE ESCALATION PROCESS IS THERE, BUT AS MUCH AS WE CAN, WE'LL DO ALL OF THE PREREQUISITE TO TO AVOID THAT.

SO I THINK WITH EVERYTHING WE'VE DONE WITH THE, THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING, WE'VE ALSO NOW PLACED THE COUNTY ONTO OUR INSURANCE AS WELL.

SO THAT WILL COVER YOU IF THERE'S ANY, IF THERE IS ANY ACCIDENTAL DAMAGE, THEN YOU KNOW YOU ARE AN INSURED PARTY ON THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY'S, UM, INSURANCE SHOULD YOU WISH TO COME BACK.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS.

HOPEFULLY WE DON'T AS WE GO FORWARD WITH ALL OF THESE, UM, PROCEDURES.

BUT, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S A BRIEF UPDATE ON HOW WE'D LIKE TO TAKE THIS FORWARD.

I KNOW I APPRECIATE YOU.

ADDING THE COUNTY'S ADDITIONAL INSURED.

HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT ALSO ADDING THE WATER DISTRICTS? UM, WE'VE THOUGHT ABOUT IT.

UM, I MEAN WE DON'T AT THE MOMENT BECAUSE WE DON'T PUT OTHER UTILITIES BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT A GRANTING A PERMIT PROVIDER.

UM, HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, AS AS DAMAGES HAPPEN IF THINGS, THEN OF COURSE AN INVESTIGATION, UM, IS TAKING PLACE.

AND THEN WE'LL WORK WITH ANY OF THE UTILITY PROVIDERS JUST AS WE WOULD WITH UH, WATER COMPANIES WITH ANY OF THE OTHER FIBER PROVIDERS.

IF THE INVESTIGATION IS FOUND TO BE ON BEHALF OF OUR CONTRACTOR, THEN THOSE FEES WOULD BE PAID AND THAT DAMAGE PAID OUT ACCORDINGLY THROUGH OUR INSURANCE COMPANY.

THAT'S NORMAL PROCEDURE.

HAVE ALL THE PAST DUE BILLS BEEN SETTLED WITH THE CITIES AND WATER DISTRICTS? AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, THERE WAS, I, I BELIEVE THERE WAS SEVEN.

I'D HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK.

I BELIEVE THERE WAS SEVEN AND I BELIEVE FIVE OF THEM HAVE BEEN PAID OUT AND CONFIRMED.

I'D HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT.

BUT AS FAR AS I'M AWARE, EVERYTHING HAS BEEN PAID OUT.

THAT HAS BEEN CLAIMED.

IF NOT, I CAN CERTAINLY TAKE IT AWAY AND HAVE A LOOK.

I WOULD SHARE ONE WITH YOU IF YOU'D LIKE.

BEFORE WE LEAVE, I'LL GIVE YOU THIS.

ABSOLUTELY, YES.

'CAUSE YOU NEED BRING UP, I WILL TAKE THAT AWAY.

BRING YOU UP TO DATE.

SURE.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND WE'VE HAD OUR, UM, DISTRICT ATTORNEY LOOK AT IT ALSO.

SO MS. KAREN, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? UM, NO, YOUR HONOR.

I THINK THAT, UM, WE HAVE THE MOU THAT'S BEEN SIGNED AND THE COUNTY WOULD NEED TO, UM, SIGN THAT AS WELL TODAY ON OUR, ON OUR BEHALF.

UM, IF, IF THEY WANT TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THAT.

BUT I KNOW THAT THE OPEN INFRA HAS SIGNED IT AND I DO HAVE IT HERE WHERE, UM, IN THIS PROCESS WE MIGHT WANNA SIGN IT REGARDING THE APPROVAL SO THAT IT'S ENFORCEABLE.

ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY COMMENTS? WELL, YOU KNOW, MY BIG DEAL IS, I MEAN, WE DON'T WANT TO TRY TO, WE WANNA DO OUR BEST TO TRY NOT TO MITIGATE ANY KIND OF DAMAGE TO THE WATER SYSTEMS OR FINALIZE.

BUT I JUST WANT IT DONE RIGHT THE FIRST TIME.

AND THEN FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, 10 YEARS FROM NOW, WHEN WE'RE REDOING A ROAD OR DIGGING DITCHES, THEY'RE BURIED AT THE APPROPRIATE DEATH.

SO WE DON'T DEPTH DEATH.

NOT SAYING BUT DEPTH .

BUT UH, YOU KNOW, THAT WE DON'T, DON'T FIND THEM DIS DISRUPT.

WE YEAH.

WE FIND THEM AND YEAH.

WE DISRUPT THE SERVICE FOR ALL THE CITIZENS.

'CAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE ARE WORKING OUTTA THEIR HOUSE NOW.

SO, AND THEN WE JUST DISRUPT EVERYTHING WHENEVER WE FIND SOMETHING THAT'S VERY SHALLOW AND IT'S A COMMON OCCURRENCE AND, AND IT'S, UH, I I HATE THAT WE DIDN'T DO THIS YEARS AGO WITH A LOT OF THE OTHER COMPANIES THAT ARE VERY SHALLOW.

SO AS LONG AS Y'ALL TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS, I'M HAPPY.

NO, ABSOLUTELY.

AND THAT, THAT'S A FAIR POINT.

UM, OBVIOUSLY THE PLANS THAT, THAT YOU HAVE IN THE PERMITS HAVE THE, THE DEPTHS THAT, THAT WE WERE GOING AT AS, AS PER APPROVAL.

AND I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT, I HAVE SEEN LOTS OF COMMENTS ABOUT WE COME IN AND WE LEAVE, YOU KNOW, OKAY.

WE COME IN, WE BUILD AND THEN WE OPERATE.

SO WE'RE THERE TO MANAGE THE FIBER IN INFRASTRUCTURE AFTERWARDS.

SO IT'S NOT A COMPANY THAT WILL COME IN, BUILD AND THEN LEAVE.

WE'RE OPERATIONS.

SO WE'RE THERE TO OPERATE AND MAINTAIN.

SO IN 5, 10, 15 YEARS, WE, WE WILL STILL BE HERE TO, TO MANAGE.

AND SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE MAINTAINING GOOD RECORDS.

YOU'RE GIVING TO THE COUNTY.

SO WE HAVE A RESOURCE WHEN WE DECIDE TO REDO A ROAD FIVE YEARS FROM NOW THAT WE CAN LOOK AT IT.

UM, NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE OUR OWN GIS MAPS, WE ALSO UPDATE THE 8 1 1 MAPS AS WELL.

SO WHENEVER WE HAVE COMPLETED, WE WILL DO WHAT'S, WHAT'S KNOWN AS A RED LINE DRAWING AND CLOSE THE PROJECT OFF WITH THE COUNTY.

SO YOU'LL ALSO BE ABLE TO SEE THE PLANS AND THE RED LINE DRAWINGS TO, TO WHERE WE HAVE, UM, PUT OUR LINES.

SO LET'S GO BACK JUST A LITTLE BIT.

SOME OF THE LINES YOU'VE ALREADY PUT IN MM-HMM.

ARE NOT PROPER DEPTH.

SO IF THEY HIT THOSE LINES, WHAT WOULD BE YOUR RECOURSE THEN? SO THE RECOURSE WILL BE IF, IF YOU YOU HIT A LINE, THEN OBVIOUSLY WE, WE WOULD KNOW FIRST BECAUSE WE'D GET THE CUSTOMER COMPLAINTS COMING IN STRAIGHT AWAY AND WE, WE FIRST BECAUSE THEY'LL RUN OUTTA THE HOUSE.

WELL, OKAY.

WELL, WHEN WE ARE NOTIFIED, IF WE ARE NOTIFIED, UM, ABSOLUTELY WE'LL HAVE OUR OPERATIONS TEAM COME OUT.

OBVIOUSLY WE'LL INITIATE AN IMMEDIATE REPAIR ON AN INVESTIGATION AS TO WHAT HAPPENED.

UM, IF THERE IS A DEATH WE WOULD REDO AND WE'D AGAIN, LIKE ANYTHING, IF WE FIND SOMETHING THAT'S WRONG WHEN WE GO BACK, THEN WE WOULD FIX.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS.

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WELL I GUESS DURING YOUR ORIGINAL STATEMENT YOU'D READ IT AND YOU SAID THAT YOU WERE GOING TO HAVE A CREW OUT THERE THAT TOOK CARE OF A PROBLEM IMMEDIATELY.

DOES THAT MEAN THAT IF YOU HIT A WATER LINE, SOMEBODY'S GONNA BE THERE, THEY'LL FIX IT.

SO, SO WHAT IT IS, IT, IT, IF IT IS A CUSTOMER, LET'S LET'S SAY IF IT'S A MAIN LINE, THEN WE, WE WOULDN'T FIX A MAIN LINE.

OF COURSE NOT.

BUT I MEANT TO A HOUSE.

IF YOU, IF YOU RUN INTO THAT AND YOU STOP THEIR WATER IMMEDIATELY YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A, SOMETHING, A PATCH OF, WE, WE HAVE WHAT'S KNOWN AS REPAIR KITS.

WE WILL DO AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO DO A TEMPORARY FIX DEPENDING ON WHERE THAT IS.

IF IT'S GOING, IF IT'S TO THE, IF IT'S ON THE HOUSE OWNER'S PROPERTY, FOR INSTANCE, LET'S SAY, UH, SPRINKLERS.

WE, WE KNOW SPRINKLERS ARE NOT MARKED.

AND WHEN WE DON'T DO THE 8 1 1 WILL NOT MARK ABSOLUTELY A HUNDRED PERCENT THAT THE WE AS OPEN INFRA WOULD, I'M FIX THAT.

I'M, I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT, I'M WORRIED ABOUT ABOUT SPRINKLERS, BUT I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE PERSON NOT BEING ABLE EACH INTO THE HOUSE IS THEIR MAIN LINE FOR THEM IMMEDIATELY.

YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF THEM CALLING SOMEBODY ELSE, I, I'M BECAUSE YOU'VE DONE SOMETHING AND THEY'RE JUST SITTING IN THE HOUSE MINDING THEIR OWN BUSINESS.

YOU KNOW? YEAH.

I I MEAN I I CAN CATEGORICALLY SAY THAT IF THEY NOTICE A, UH, A WATER BREAK AT THAT POINT, I THINK THEY'RE GONNA SEE IT.

THAT THEY CAN FIX AND THEY CAN SEE IT.

THEY, THEY SHOULD TRY AND REPAIR IT.

THEY WOULD ALSO NOTIFY NEED BE THE, THE WATER COMPANY, THE CUSTOMER RESPONSIBLE.

THE CUSTOMER OR THE CUSTOMER OF COURSE.

OR THE CUSTOMER AT THE TIME.

UM, IF FOR ANY REASON THEY COULDN'T FIX, OBVIOUSLY THE WATER COMPANY WOULD BE AWARE THE, THE HOMEOWNER.

UM, GENERALLY THAT'S MORE ON A, ON A MAINLINE IF THAT HAPPENS.

BUT CERTAINLY WE DO EVERYTHING WITHIN OUR POWER AT THAT POINT.

AND IT'S ALSO PART OF OUR ESCALATION PROCESS.

IT WOULD COME BACK TO OPEN INFRA.

SO YOU'RE GONNA NOTIFY THE COUNTY OF THE ROADS WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO GO.

YOU'RE GONNA DO LIKE A SHOTGUN SCATTER OPERATION HERE OR ONE ROAD AT A TIME? NO.

SO WHAT WE HAVE IS, UH, THE WAY WE DO IT, WE PERMIT IT AND WE UM, WE, WE DIG IN WHAT WE CALL WORKS ORDERS.

SO WE WILL HAVE A SCHEDULE OF WHERE WE'RE GOING TO DIG, UM, BASED ON THE LOCATE OR LOCATE ARE WE CALLED OFF IN ORDER AND THEREFORE THERE WILL BE A PLAN, A WEEKLY PLAN BASED ON LOCATES.

AND I THINK AS PART OF THE MOU NOW WE HAVE STIPULATED THAT WE WILL LET YOU KNOW ON A WEEKLY BASIS EXACTLY WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE DRILLING DURING THAT WEEK.

AND OUR INSPECTOR WILL COME AND INSPECT.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

GOOD.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? WELL, I HAD A, I KNOW FOR THE FENCE OF THE WATER DEPARTMENT OVER THERE, ANY LINE, AND YOU MAY CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG BACK THERE, BUT I KNOW MOST TIME THE REPAIR ON ONE SIDE OF THE METERS, THE WATER DEPARTMENT AND IF IT'S ON THE INSIDE METER, SO WHAT EXCUSE WAS TALKING ABOUT, IT'S GONNA BE ONE YOU'LL BE CALLING THE HOMEOWNER.

YOU MAY, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT ON THE WATER COMPANY.

IT'S ON YEAH.

THE CUSTOMER'S SIDE.

AND THAT, THAT'S GONNA BE SO THE CUSTOMERS, ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU HIT THEIRS, NOT ONLY IS IT DISRUPTING THEM, BUT IT'S RUNNING THEIR BILL UP.

SO, I MEAN, IF YOU DON'T FIX IT FOR TWO DAYS AND THE WATER RUN, YOU DON'T CUT IT OFF.

SOMETHING HAPPENS.

I MEAN IT ALMOST LOOKS LIKE TO ME IF YOU, IF YOU RUN INTO THEIR WATER LINE AND IT'S SHOOTING UP THAT SOMEBODY OUGHT TO BE TURNING IT OFF TO STOP THE BILL FROM MOVING YEAH.

FOR ONE.

AND STOPPING THE AREA FROM FLOODING WHERE YOU CAN'T HARDLY WORK ON IT, GET A TRACTOR IN 'CAUSE IT GETS SO MUDDY.

AND SO THAT'S THE REASON I WAS ASKING THE WAY YOU SOUNDED LIKE TO ME WHEN YOU WERE GIVEN YOUR INITIAL, THE THING TO US, YOU WERE SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, ALMOST A BACKHOE FOLLOWING THE CREW SO THAT THEY COULD DIG THAT UP AND IMMEDIATELY FIX IT.

BUT YOU HAVE TO TURN THE WATER OFF.

YEAH, I, YEAH, I MEAN THAT'S PART OF, I MEAN, I'M JUST SAYING THAT EVERYBODY OUGHT TO BE ON THE SAME PAGE AND UNDERSTAND.

WELL, AND AND MY POINT OF THAT WAS IF YOU HIT ON THE WATER DEPARTMENT SIDE, THEY NEED TO BE, AND MY OPINION, THEY NEED TO BE NOTIFIED.

THEY NEED BE NOTIFIED IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SANITARY CONDITIONS THAT WATER.

WATER.

SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S CAT PLUGGED, WHATEVER REPAIRED CORRECTLY.

SO AS LONG AS IT'S UNDERSTOOD BY YOU GUYS THAT YOU KNOW, ABSOLUTELY.

THEY WILL BE NOTIFIED IMMEDIATELY UPON THAT.

SO THE SAFETY IS THE BIGGEST THING TO ME IS CONTAMINATING WATER.

SO YEAH.

AND, AND TO CLARIFY EXACTLY, EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAY, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S ON THE WATERBOARD SIDE, UH, IF WE CAN DO A TEMPORARY FIX TO, TO STOP ANY LEAKAGE WE COULD ON THE CUSTOMER SIDE, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

AS PART OF THE PROCESSES TURN OFF THE WATER TO MAKE GOOD CAN BE SHUT OFF AND, AND, AND LET THEM BE NOTIFIED BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S EVEN A DIFFERENT FOR THEM BECAUSE YOU, YOU KNOW, MOST, YOU KNOW, AND CORRECT ME THE WATER COMPANIES OUT THERE, BUT LIKE MY WATER COMPANY, WHEN THEY PUT A WATER PIPE IN, YOU HAVE A HYDRANT THERE.

THAT'S ABOUT THE LOWEST POINT.

AND SO IF SOMETHING HAPPENS BETWEEN ME AND THAT WATER METER, IF IT'S SHUT OFF AND I PATCH IT, I CAN OPEN THAT ONE BEFORE I OPEN ANYTHING ELSE.

I OPEN IT AND TURN THE WATER BACK ON AND ALL THE DIRT COMES FLYING OUT THE FRONT.

MY OTHER, THE REST OF MY HOUSE.

INSTEAD OF GOING UP INTO ALL

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AND, AND, AND TO BE CLEAR AS WELL, WE, WE HAVE ON, UM, ON STAFF, WE HAVE REGISTERED PLUMBERS AS WELL DEPENDING ON, ON THE ISSUES WITH THE CUSTOMERS.

SO AGAIN, YOU KNOW, OUR COMMITMENT IS TO MAKE GOOD ANY DAMAGE THAT OCCURS, HOPEFULLY IT DOESN'T AND IT'S MINIMAL.

UM, BUT OUR COMMITMENT IS TO MAKE GOOD ON ANY OF THAT DAMAGE.

NO.

THAT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST PART OF PUBLIC SERVICE.

NANCY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING YOU, YOU'VE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SO THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY .

I I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT COME ON UP FRONT, WE NEED TO HEAR YOU PLEASE.

WE'RE TRYING TO ASK ALL THE RIGHT QUESTIONS FOR YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING'S BEING DONE.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

I MEAN, UM, 'CAUSE I DON'T THINK PROBABLY ANYBODY REALIZES THE SEVERITY, UM, OF THE SITUATION WHEN YOU DO HIT A WATERLINE, AS SOON AS YOU HIT THAT WATERLINE AND I HAVE TO MAKE PEOPLE WITHOUT WATER, I HAVE TO NOTIFY TCEQ.

THAT'S A NEW LEGISLATION.

SO I, WITHIN A COUPLE OF HOURS I HAVE TO NOTIFY THEM OF HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE WITHOUT SERVICE UNTIL WE GET IT REPAIRED.

SO IT IS NOT LIKE IT WAS JUST LAST YEAR WHERE YOU HIT THE WATER LINE.

WE CAN TURN PEOPLE OFF AND, AND WE CAN GO.

UM, SO IT'S A LOT DIFFERENT NOW.

SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING TO US TODAY IS ACTUALLY WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.

DO YOU HAVE THIS IN WRITING? DO YOU HAVE YOUR PLAN IN WRITING SO THAT YOU CAN SHARE IT WITH ALL OF US, THE WATER DISTRICTS A PLAN SUCH AS WELL EVERYTHING YOU TOLD US TODAY THAT YOU'RE GONNA DO.

SO WE HAVE THE MOU THAT WE THE, THE COUNTY NOW HAVE YOU HAVE IT SPELLED OUT? WE'LL GIVE YOU A COPY OF THAT.

IF WE APPROVE IT.

AND WHO DO WE GO TO WHEN THAT STOPS GETTING FOLLOWED? ? WELL, A IT IT WILL NOT GET STOPPED GETTING FOLLOWED, BUT YOU, THERE WILL BE AN ESCALATION PLAN AS WELL.

WHENEVER WE ROLL OUT, THERE'S AN ESCALATION PLAN FROM THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY THROUGH TO OPEN INFRA.

AND THAT ESCALATION PLAN SHOULD BE FOLLOWED THROUGH ALL THE WAY UP TO, TO ME, THE COO AND THEN FINALLY THE CEO.

IT, IT, HOPEFULLY IT NEVER HAS TO GO THAT FAR.

UM, BUT CERTAINLY THAT ESCALATION PLAN IS THERE AND THERE WILL BE A SUPERVISOR ON SITE MANAGING ALL OF THIS WORK.

I GUESS I THINK SHE'S ASKING WILL SHE HAVE THE NAME OF THAT SUPERVISOR THAT'S ON THAT JOB RIGHT THERE? SO WILL ALL THE TIME IN OUR ENGINEER.

IN OTHER WORDS, EVERY TIME THAT THAT HAPPENS, AND MAYBE MONIQUE OUGHT TO BE ASKING IN THAT CONVERSATION, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU GET THEIR PLANS AND THEY SEND THEM TO YOU, ARE YOU GONNA BE NOTIFIED THEM OR IS HE ACTUALLY GONNA BE NOTIFIED 'EM, NOT NECESSARILY HIM, BUT HIS SUPERVISOR OR WHOEVER WHO'S GONNA BE NOTIFYING WHO OPEN INFRA WILL NOTIFY THEM.

I GUESS THIS IS WHAT SHE'S TRYING TO FIND OUT RIGHT NOW.

I I WANT IT SPELLED OUT SO I KNOW TOO EXACTLY WHAT I ABSOLUTELY, WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD DIRECT LINE AND, AND, BUT I MEAN, IN MY OPINION, I KNOW IF IT'S WATER YOU NEED TO CALL THEM FIRST THEN NANCY'S PRETTY GOOD ABOUT SAYING, HEY, WE'VE GOT A PROBLEM ON THIS ROAD.

UM, WE ARE GOING TO NOW, JUST SO YOU'RE CLEAR, WE'RE CLEAR ON EVERYTHING, UM, BEFORE YOU BURY IT, GARY WILL BE OUT TO CHECK DEPTH.

AND THAT IS AS PART OF THE M SO YES.

AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IS VERY CLEAR.

UM, WE WANT TO COME OUT, CHECK THE DEPTH, TAKE OUR OWN PHOTOS.

I, I I MEAN WE, WE AGREE AND WE PUT THAT IN THE MOU OBVIOUSLY ALL, ALL WE'RE ASKING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, TO CHECK IT WITHIN A REASONABLE TIMESCALE.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, I THINK ONCE WE START, WE'LL WE'LL SEE HOW IT WORKS AND WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE, OBVIOUSLY IT, WE, WE DON'T STOP AND WAIT AND STOP, BUT WE'LL WORK WITH YOU ON THAT.

AND WE'VE AGREED IN THE MOU FOR THE CHECK ON THE DEPTH, HOW MANY, WHAT CREWS AT A TIME ARE YOU RUNNING? UM, THE, THE MAXIMUM PROBABLY WE'LL HAVE RUNNING, AND I LOOK AT THE OPERATIONS GUIDE HERE, NORMALLY AROUND FIVE TO SIX BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE AT THE MOMENT ON THE PERMITS THAT YOU ARE APPROVING.

UM, IT CAN GO UPWARDS DEPENDING ON HOW WE, 'CAUSE WE'VE GOT AN AGGRESSIVE ROLLOUT THIS YEAR.

UH, I THINK YOU'RE AWARE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE FIRST SET OF PERMITS.

WE HAVE MORE COMMON IN TOTAL.

WE HAVE AROUND ABOUT 12 TO 15 PHASES IN KAUFMAN, UM, AS A WHOLE.

SO, BUT AT THE MOMENT FOR THESE PROBABLY ARE SIX CREWS, MAXIMUM SIX WEEKS.

SO YOU'VE GOT SIX CREWS WORKING SIMULTANEOUSLY? YES.

AND ALL OF THEM HAVE SUPERVISORS.

THE THE, EACH CREW HAS A SUPERVISOR AND AS LIGHT UP CONSTRUCTION, WE HAVE A SUPERVISOR ACROSS ALL OF THESE.

SO WHEN YOU SAY REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME FOR US TO COME OUT AND INSPECT YES.

YOU HAVE SIX CREWS TO ONE ENGINEER.

SO OKAY.

I WILL HAVE TO DETERMINE THE REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME.

YOUR SIX CREWS NEED TO BE NOT IN MY ONE DISTRICT.

AND IF YOU'VE GOT SIX CREWS IN MY ONE LITTLE DISTRICT MM-HMM.

, I'VE GOT TWO OPERATORS, I CAN'T KEEP UP WITH THAT.

NONE OF THE DISTRICTS AROUND US COULD KEEP UP WITH THAT AMOUNT.

SO KEEP UP WITH, WITH WAL WHI THE AMOUNT OF LOCATES THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE PUTTING IN FOR THAT.

WE CAN'T BE IN THAT MANY PLACES.

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UM, THAT THAT CAN'T HAPPEN.

THEY COULD ONLY WORK AS MUCH AS YOU CAN LOCATE.

SO IF YOU CAN ONLY LOCATE THREE AREAS, THEN THAT'S ALL THEY CAN DO TO YOUR GUYS AND GET TO ONE OR TWO OR THREE MORE AREAS, THEN HIS OTHER CREWS WILL, WILL HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.

OR THEY CAN BE LOCATED.

IT'S OVERWHELMING FOR ANYBODY.

THEY, WELL, I MEAN WE, WE FOLLOW THE 8 1 1.

SO WE, THE 8 1 1 OBVIOUSLY WE PUT IN THE LOCATES AS WE DID BEFORE.

WE'LL, WE WILL SEND THE PLAN WITH REGARDS TO WHAT WE WANT TO DO ACROSS THE NEXT SIX TO EIGHT WEEKS AND WE CAN WORK WITH YOU ON HOW, WHERE WE WANT TO DRILL ON A WEEKLY BASIS.

SO YOU WILL SEE THAT.

AND THOSE LOCATES WILL BE PLACED, I MEAN TO, TO, AGAIN, I ONLY HAVE TWO OPERATORS.

IT'S A MANUAL PROCESS TO LOCATE.

I UNDERSTAND YOU CAN'T LOOK, I CAN'T LOCATE 30 IN TWO DAYS.

I CAN'T, I CANNOT DO IT.

IT'D BE OVERWHELMING FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS.

SO YOU CANNOT DO MORE THAN WE THAN WE CAN HANDLE.

SO LIKE I, I THINK AS, AS I SAY, WE WILL COMMIT TO GIVING YOU THE PLAN, WE WILL SHOW YOU THE PLAN THAT WE WANT TO DRILL OVER THE NEXT SIX TO EIGHT WEEKS AND WE WILL WORK WITH YOU.

AND LIKE I SAID, HE CAN'T DRILL UNLESS YOU APPROVE, GET IT LOCATED.

AND CAN I COMMENT ON ONE THING ON THIS TOO IS 8 1 1, I KNOW YOU'RE BIG ON 8 1 1.

WE USE 8 1 1.

THERE'S NO COMMUNICATION BETWEEN 8 1 1 AND THE WATER DEPARTMENTS HERE.

SO EVERY TIME WE DO LINE LOCATE ON OUR ROADS FOR OUR PROJECTS MM-HMM.

WE HAVE TO DO THE 8 1 1 AND THEN PLUS WE HAVE TO CALL AND DO A LINE LOCATE INDEPENDENTLY TO ALL THESE WATER DISTRICTS.

SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT THAT IT AIN'T JUST EIGHT ONE ONE'S AN INDEPENDENT IN REQUEST.

SO NOT ALL OF US ARE, I MEAN THE BOOK, I BELIEVE COLLEGE MOUND IS, I BELIEVE GASTONIA IS, BUT THERE ARE GONNA BE SOME WATER DISTRICTS THAT ARE NOT PART OF ONE ONE.

UM, WE ARE CAROLYN AND Y'ALL, Y'ALL BURY A LINE WITH YOUR WATERLINE SO THAT 8 1 1 CAN FIND YOUR LINE.

RIGHT? WELL, 8 1 1 CAN'T.

UM, OKAY.

BUT WE'D HAVE, WE HAVE TO DO IT.

WE JUST GET NOTIFIED THAT'S NO, A LOT OF 'EM HAVE STARTED BEARING LINES WITH THEM AND THEY CAN FIND THEM, YOU KNOW? RIGHT.

THAT, UH, UH, WELL TO SAFE, BE SAFE, LET'S GO BACK.

WELL, I, I'M AGREEING, I'M THINKING THAT UNTIL THEY, YOU CAN'T FIND THE WATERLINE.

I MEAN, IT, IT'S ONE OF THE HARDEST, HARDEST UNDERGROUND UTILITIES TO FIND.

WELL SURE IT IS.

AND, AND WHAT MAKES IT TOUGH IS TOO, WHEN YOU GET OUT IN THE RURAL, THEY'VE BEEN BURIED FOR SO MANY YEARS AND YOU KNOW, LIKE IN OUR WATER, YOU KNOW, AND I MOVED OUT THERE, NOBODY, THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHERE THE METERS WERE.

MOST OF 'EM, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY CHARGED YOU BY THE MONTH.

THEY DIDN'T HAVE A METER THAT READ NUMBERS.

AND SO, SO YOU KNOW, EVENTUALLY AT SOME POINT ALL THAT CHANGED, BUT THERE'S STILL METERS THEY FOUND.

I MEAN, I HATE TO SAY THAT I'M CONCERNED THOUGH.

SO WHAT'S YOUR, WHAT'S YOUR MAIN CONCERN? MY CONCERN IS, I MEAN, WHAT'S BEEN DAMAGED STILL HASN'T BEEN PAID FOR.

AND THEN LIGHTUP CONSTRUCTION WENT SO FAR AS TO SAY THEY'RE NOT EVEN RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DAMAGE.

I GOT A LETTER HERE FROM THEIR ATTORNEY, UH, IN RESPONSE TO OUR DEMAND LETTER THAT BASICALLY PASSES THE BUCK DOWN TO THE SUBCONTRACTOR, DOWN TO THE SUB SUBCONTRACTOR.

SO EVEN AS THIS WHAT CAME IN IN JANUARY 26TH, WE'RE STILL PASSING THE BUCK.

I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN ANYMORE.

AND BY THE WAY, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO PAY FOR THE DAMAGES YOU'VE ALREADY CREATED? OKAY.

I THINK AS, AS WE WE SPOKE ABOUT THERE, I'LL TAKE AWAY IF THERE'S DAMAGES OUTSTANDING.

I'LL TAKE THAT TODAY TO HAVE A LOOK AT WHAT THAT IS AND RESPOND ACCORDINGLY.

UM, FOR THE, FOR THE ATTORNEY'S LETTER, YOU KNOW, THE , THERE ARE CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE SOME OF THEM ARE, ARE STILL IN DISPUTES.

THERE'S NO DIS SOME OF THEM ARE STILL IN DISPUTE TO SAY THEY WERE NOT LOCATED CORRECTLY.

THEREFORE, NOW THOSE ONES WILL STILL HAVE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION.

IT'S NOT, I DON'T THINK THIS IS ABOUT PASSING BOOK.

THIS IS ABOUT NO, THAT THIS IS ABSOLUTELY ABOUT PASSING BOOK.

BACK UP NO MATTER WHAT, I WANT YOU TO START WORKING PERSON TAKES IT OUT.

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT.

THIS IS LIGHT UP CONSTRUCTION SAYING WE HAVE, WE TAKE NO RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE WE HIRED FALCON UTILITY WHO THEN IN TURN HIRED U ROD UTILITY.

I DIDN'T GET TO HIRE ANYBODY.

SO WHY? I MEAN, OKAY, NOW I, NOW THIS IS LIGHT UP CONSTRUCTION PASSING THE BUCK.

I'LL TAKE, I'LL TAKE AN ACTION HERE ON BEHALF TO LOOK AT THIS AND RESPOND ACCORDINGLY TO YOU ON THIS 'CAUSE ON THIS ONE, YEAH, I MEAN THAT, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT IS CONCERNING ME THE MOST IS FROM THE GET GO, Y'ALL HAVE PASSED THE BUCK AROUND TO ALL THESE PEOPLE WITHIN YOUR CORPORATION THAT SAY, NO, IT WASN'T US.

NOPE.

IT WASN'T ME.

NOPE.

IT, I WANT SOMEBODY TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR WHAT HAS HAPPENED AND WHAT YOU COULD BE DOING WHEN YOU START

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I WANT, I WANT THE COUNTY'S RESIDENTS TO HAVE YOUR, YOUR PRODUCT BUT NOT AT EVERYBODY ELSE'S EXPENSE.

THEY SHOULD BE, HAS BEEN, SHOULD BE.

THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT.

DID THEY TAKE THE PERMIT OUT TO DO THIS WORK WHERE DAMAGE WAS DONE OPENING FROM FILE FOR THE PERMIT? YES.

THEN THEY SHOULD BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DAMAGE, I WOULD THINK.

THE PERMIT WAS NOT GIVEN TO LIGHT.

THE PERMIT WAS NOT GIVEN TO YOU ROD.

IT WAS GIVEN TO OPEN INFRA.

BUT, BUT YEAH.

THE, THE PERMITS THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY AS IN LIGHT OF CONSTRUCTION, THEY'RE THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY DOING THE WORKS AND THEREFORE THE INSURANCES, THE LIABILITIES ARE WITH LIGHTS UP CONSTRUCTION.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE LETTER HERE IS SAYING.

BUT I WILL TAKE THIS AWAY AND HAVE THE DISCUSSIONS WITH, UM, BOTH LIGHTS UP AND WITHIN OPEN INFRA AND COME BACK TO YOU SPECIFICALLY ON THIS.

I THINK WHAT SHE'S TRYING TO SAY IS YOU GOT THE PERMIT, YOU PAY, YOU FIGHT THEM FOR YOUR MONEY, IS WHAT SHE'S SAYING.

YEAH, I AGREE WITH THAT.

EVER.

WHO SHOWS UP TO MY HOUSE THAT DOES A JOB.

HE'S RESPONSIBLE.

I I DON'T CARE ABOUT HIS SUBS.

I'M NOT INTERESTED.

YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY'S NOT INTERESTED IN YOU.

YOU, YOU CAN'T PASS THE BUCK THIS BY HIRING IT AWAY AND WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO THEY ARE.

EXACTLY.

HERE.

YOU'RE GONNA BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT AS FAR AS WE'RE CONCERNED, IF YOU TAKE THAT PERMIT OUT, YOU CAN'T JUST PAWN IT OFF ON DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND YEAH.

AND IT HASN'T, THE PERMIT IS, AND AGAIN, IF WE CAN CHECK THE PERMIT HERE, HERE, IT SHOULD BE IN LIGHT OF CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS THE CONSTRUCTION ENTITY.

WELL, THEY DIDN'T TAKE THE PERMIT OUT.

OKAY, WELL THIS IS ANOTHER SUBJECT FOR ANOTHER TIME.

YOU'RE NOT SIGNING THE MOU THE PERMIT.

THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY'S NOT RIGHT.

SO THE PERMIT CAN'T BE UNDER YOU CAN'T, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

YOU CAN'T ESCAPE JUST BECAUSE YOU SAY, WELL I'M, I'M JUST GONNA SUB THIS JOB OUT AND THEY'RE GONNA BE RESPONSIBLE, NOT ME.

YOU'RE GONNA BE RESPONSIBLE.

AND THIS LEADS US BACK TO WHAT MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS.

UM, OPEN INFRA AGREES TO HOLD THE COUNTY OF COFFIN HARMLESS BECAUSE HONESTLY THE COUNTY UNDER STATE LAW CANNOT INDEMNIFY A UTILITY OR, OR ANYBODY ELSE FOR THAT MATTER, ANY OTHER ENTITY.

IS THERE'S STILL NO WRITTEN PLAN REALLY.

AND WHO IS ACTUALLY GONNA BE PERMITTED AND WHO ISN'T.

IS THERE ANYTHING IN OUR, IN OUR MOU THAT SPELLS THAT OUT SPECIFICALLY? SO WHAT THE MOU SAYS, IT'S BETWEEN KAUFFMAN COUNTY, THE STATE OF TEXAS AND OPEN INFRA AND IT SAYS THE THINGS THAT I'M, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T GET YOUR NAME.

IT'S CHRIS, MR. CHRIS THOMPSON.

OH, I THOUGHT HARRISON.

WELL MR. ALL ALL THIS GOOD HELP AROUND HERE.

MIGHT BE MY ACCENT.

MR. HARRISON.

YOU GOTTA RIDE THERE.

SO, UM, SO THE MOU IS BETWEEN OPEN INFRA.

THEY AGREE TO UTILIZE, UM, POTHOLING THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROJECT.

THEY AGREE TO COORDINATE WITH OTHER UTILITY PROVIDERS BEFORE CONSTRUCTION THE RIGHT OF WAY.

AND I THINK UTILITY PROVIDERS WOULD PROBABLY BE THE WATER COMPANIES.

MM-HMM.

THEY AGREE TO, I'M JUST KIND OF GOING THROUGH THIS FOR EVERYONE'S BENEFIT, THEY AGREE TO ALWAYS HAVE A SUPERVISOR SLASH FOREMAN ON SITE.

THE PLANS AND PERMITS ALONG WITH ALL ASSOCIATED PAPERWORK, SHALL ALWAYS BE ON SITE AND AVAILABLE FOR REVIEW.

AND WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN IS THAT IF ONE OF THE WATER COMPANY OPERATORS OR DIRECTORS SAW THEM OUT WORKING, THEY COULD GO OUT AND THEY COULD REVIEW THE SITES, THE PLANS, THE, THE, TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING IN AN AREA AND WHAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING.

UM, THERE THE PROJECTS ARE SUBJECT TO RANDOM CHECKS BY COUNTY PERSONNEL SUCH AS THE COUNTY ENGINEER.

AND SO THAT IS ANOTHER RESOURCE FOR UTILITY COMPANIES, PROPERTY OWNERS IS THE COUNTY ENGINEER SHOULD BE UP ON ALL ASPECTS OF WHAT IS HAPPENING.

UM, THE CLIENT, WHICH IS OPEN INFRA, AGREES TO CONTACT UTILITY PROVIDERS AND COMMISSIONERS AT LEAST TWO WORKING DAYS BEFORE DIGGING.

UM, THE TEXAS ONE CALL LAW DOES NOT REQUIRE SECOND NOTICE, BUT WE'RE, THEY ARE AGREEING TO EITHER CONTACT THE UTILITY COMPANIES DIRECTLY OR CALL THE NOTIFICATION CENTER AND ASK THAT A SECOND NOTICE BE SENT.

UM, THAT, UM, IF THEY CALL FOR A LOCATE BUT THEY DON'T ALLOW ADEQUATE TIME OF WORK, CONSTRUCT CONSTRUCTION DISRUPTS THE SYSTEM.

IT'S A VIOLATION OF THE TEXAS ONE CALL LAW.

SO, YOU KNOW, WATER COMPANIES, UTILITIES, PEOPLE HAVE RECOURSE THROUGH THAT, THAT AREA OF THE LAW.

UM, OPEN INFO AGREES TO FOLLOW THE COUNTY DEPTH REQUIREMENTS AND THAT'S USUALLY 36 INCHES.

AND PROVIDE DEPTH OF PROOF OF DEPTH TO THE COUNTY ENGINEER.

COLEMAN COUNTY REQUIRES THAT THE UTILITY TO BE INSTALLED AT A MINIMUM DEATH OF THREE FEET, WHICH IS WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT.

UH, THE UTILITY INSTALLATION SHOULD NOT INTERFERE WITH PUBLIC ROAD USE.

UH, THE APPLICANT, WHICH IS THIS CASE OPEN INFRA, IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGES TO ROADWAYS RIGHT OF WAY CULVERTS OR ANY OTHER DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE DURING UTILITY INSTALLATION.

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UM, THEY AGREE TO COMPLY WITH THE INSTALLATION AND USE REGULATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS.

UM, THEY AGREE TO IDENTIFY INDEMNIFY THE COUNTY FOR ANY AND ALL DAMAGES TO THE COUNTY AS A RESULT OF THE, THE FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH INSTALLATION AND USE REGULATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS.

AND, UM, AND SO THE COUNTY, UM, WOULD BE PASSING THAT OR WOULD BE PUT TO MOTION TODAY TO PASS THIS OPEN IN FROM MR. CARL ASHLAND.

HE'S THE C-E-O-C-E-O HAS SIGNED THIS MOU.

SO, UM, ONCE THIS IS SIGNED, IT'S A, IT'LL BE IN THE COURT MINUTES.

IT'S A PUBLIC DOCUMENT THAT ANYBODY COULD HAVE A COPY OF AND, AND SO I, I THINK IT'S AS THOROUGH AS COULD POSSIBLY BE TO TRY TO PROVIDE WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTS AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE STATE IS PUSHING IS, YOU KNOW, INTERNET AVAILABLE IN ALL AREAS OF THE STATE AND YET PROTECTING THE UTILITIES IN PLACE, IT, IT'S SOMETIMES A LITTLE BIT OF A BALANCING ACT, BUT TRYING TO RESOLVE THIS SO THAT WE DO HAVE INTERNET IN RURAL TEXAS.

THAT'S WHAT THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE AND THE LEGISLATOR IS REALLY PUSHING BECAUSE CHILDREN CAN'T DO HOMEWORK.

PEOPLE CAN'T DO HARDLY ANYTHING WITHOUT THE INTERNET.

BUT YET PROTECTING THE, UM, WATER UTILITY COMPANIES, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THAT BECOMES A HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUE.

AND ANY OTHER ISSUES THAT THE COUNTY MIGHT HAVE WITH THE ROAD.

SO THAT'S REALLY THE EFFORTS THAT'S HERE TODAY.

DOES THAT ANSWER YES FOR YOU? OKAY.

THAT THAT'S GOOD.

I WOULD, I WILL GET A COPY OF THAT TO HAVE ON HAND NOW.

THEY'RE TAKING RESPONSIBILITY.

I, MY ONLY OTHER CONCERN IS, AGAIN, THAT LETTER PASSES THE BUCK.

SO IS OPEN IF WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO PASS THE BUCK AND SAY, YOU KNOW, NO, WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY DO IT.

LIGHT UP CONSTRUCTION DID AND LIGHT UP CONSTRUCTION THEN HIRED FALCON.

AND THEN CAN I, LET ME COMMENT ON THAT.

BASED ON THIS, MOU OPEN INFRA IS TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR, THEY'RE THE OWNER APPLICANT OF THE PERMIT.

SO, UM, IT SHOULD, IT SHOULD WORK WHERE IF THERE'S A COMPLAINER ISSUE, YOU SHOULD GO DIRECTLY TO OPEN INFRA.

AND THEN OPEN INFRA WOULD WORK WITHIN THEIR MEANS.

AND THE THE CONTRACTS AND THE AGREEMENTS THAT OPEN INFRA HAS WITH THEIR CONTRACTORS AND SUBCONTRACTORS AND THOSE ADDITIONAL PARTIES.

INSURANCE, THEY WOULD WORK WITH OPEN INFRA.

IT'S KINDA LIKE WHEN YOU HAVE A CAR WRECK AND YOU HAVE INSURANCE WITH STATE FARM AND YOU MIGHT HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE CAR THAT HITS YOU MAY HAVE A DIFFERENT INSURANCE COMPANY.

YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE OPTION OF STATE FARM PAYING YOUR DAMAGES.

AND THEN STATE FARM WOULD PURSUE A SUBROGATION CASE AGAINST OTHER INSURANCE COMPANIES TO, TO GET REIMBURSED FOR WHAT THEY SPENT ON YOUR CASE.

IT'S, IT'S KIND OF THE SAME TYPE OF SITUATION.

BUT WE STILL HAVE THE ISSUE OF UNPAID BILLS.

FROM PRIOR DAMAGE.

NOW I'VE, AND SHE HAS ONE, I HAVE ONE HERE FOR YOU ALSO.

WELL, I GUESS, I GUESS THE BIGGEST QUESTION IS, AND I'D SAY HER POINT IS, WHY SHOULD I HAVE TO WAIT FOR A THIRD PARTY OR FOURTH PARTY OR A FIFTH PARTY TO SETTLE WITH HIM BEFORE I, I THINK I GET PAID.

I THINK WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS WE DON'T, IT'S LIKE WHEN YOU, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT'RE SAYING, THAT'S WHAT WE WANNA SAY.

THAT'S VERY CLEAR.

THAT'S WHAT I THINK.

AND WE WANNA SAY IN OPEN COURT THAT THIS IS CLEAR THAT HE'S A RESPONSIBLE PARTY OR NOT, NOT NECESSARILY HIM, HIS COMPANY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.

HIS COMPANY'S RESPONSIBLE.

THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PEOPLE THEY HIRE.

JUST LIKE IF I HAVE A COMPANY, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT DRIVERS, I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE DRIVERS EVEN THOUGH I DIDN'T DO IT, YOU DIDN'T DO IT.

YOU KNOW, THEY DID.

I MEAN THAT, BUT IT'S, IT, YOU KNOW, I HIRED 'EM.

I SELECTED THEM.

EXACTLY.

I DIDN'T, SO THAT'S WHAT I WANT CLEAR.

AND I THINK EVERYBODY ELSE WANTS IT CLEAR.

AM I CORRECT? I THINK IT IS, IT'S, I THINK IT'S CLEAR IN THE M-O-U-I-I REALLY DON'T THINK YOU COULD SAY ANY CLEAR.

SHE'S SAYING WHO'S RESPONSIBLE.

AS LONG THEY'RE SAYING IT'S CLEAR.

I'M HAPPY AND I WANT THE WATER COMPANY TO BE HAPPY AND EVERYBODY'S BE HAPPY.

SO ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I MEAN, YEAH, I JUST THINK, JUST ON RECORD WITH WHAT SKEETS SAYING THAT YES, I'M ASSUMING THIS MO IS BETWEEN KAUFMAN COUNTY AND OPEN.

IF OR NOT I DON'T, ROSE HILL THINK THEY'RE GETTING REPRESENTATION AND THEY'RE NOT SO, SO ROSE HILL WOULD'VE TO DEFEND THEMSELVES IN THIS SITUATION.

THIS IS JUST BETWEEN COL COUNTY.

SO WHAT I, I'VE SAID SAID SEVERAL TIMES THIS.

WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M TRYING TO CONVEY IS THIS MOU IS BETWEEN KAUFMAN COUNTY AND OPEN INFRA.

SO IF THERE ARE ISSUES WITH OPEN INFRA, THEN THIS MOU SHOULD PROTECT PEOPLE BECAUSE OPEN INFRA HAS MADE OBLIGATIONS AND RESPONSIBILITIES AND DUTIES AND AGREEMENTS THAT THEY, UM, AGREE

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TO IN THIS MOU.

SO A UTILITY OR SOMEBODY SHOULD BE ABLE TO COME TO OPEN INFRA AND ENFORCE, YOU KNOW, A MEMORANDUM OF, OF UNDERSTANDING, A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING ISN'T QUITE A CONTRACT, BUT IT IS AN AGREEMENT THAT PEOPLE HAVE DECIDED THAT ENTITIES HAVE DECIDED HOW THEY WILL GO ABOUT HANDLING DIFFERENT ISSUES, WHAT'S EXPECTED.

AND IT, AND IT HAS ALL THE FORCE YOU GO TO LAW AND ENFORCE.

YOU GO TO COURT AND ENFORCE IT AND UM, AND OPEN INFRA.

AND THE AGREEMENT HAS AGREED TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR SUBCONTRACTORS OR CONTRACTORS OR PEOPLE THAT THEY HIRE.

SO IF SOMETHING OCCURS, THEN I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S OTHER CABLE PEOPLE IN INTERNET LYING FOLKS IN, IN THE COUNTY IF THERE ARE OTHER PERMITS.

BUT WHAT YOU WOULD WANNA DO FIRST IS MAKE SURE THAT YOU GO TO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND PULL A PERMIT FOR THAT ROAD AND MAKE SURE THAT OPEN INFRA, I THINK THAT'S ONE THING THEY WOULD BE CAREFUL OF, IS ACTUALLY THE PERMIT OWNER.

AND THEN THESE CONDITIONS OF THE MOU SHOULD KICK IN.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? LAST, LAST GO ROUND.

BUT THE ONLY THING I WANNA SAY IS THE SUCCESS FOR, FOR THIS BEING PROVIDED TO KAUFMAN COUNTY DEPENDS ON RELATIONSHIPS THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN DAMAGED.

SO, I MEAN, THERE'S GONNA HAVE TO BE SOME, Y'ALL HAVE TO BUILD NEW RELATIONSHIPS OR MEND THE RELATIONSHIP.

'CAUSE THIS IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT.

THE SUCCESS OF THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC.

SO I JUST ASK Y'ALL TO AT LEAST GIVE EACH OTHER A CHANCE TO PERFORM AND, AND, AND THE OTHER WATER COMPANIES AND JUST DEVELOP A RELATIONSHIP, A BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP, WHATEVER.

AND AS LONG AS IT KEEPS GOING GOOD, THEN IT'LL GET STRONGER AND EVERYBODY ELSE WILL BENEFIT FROM THIS.

SO, OKAY.

AGREED.

NEED TO PUT THIS TO FORM OF A MOTION.

I WILL MAKE THE MOTION.

HAVE A SECOND.

MR. PHILLIPS, MAKE SECOND.

WE'LL ALL NEED TO SIGN IN.

[18. Auditor; Discuss/Consider line-item and budget transfers/corrections.]

MS. BRANDY HERE.

IT'S YOUR TURN DISCUSS LINE ITEM AND BUDGET TRANSFERS.

UM, GOOD MORNING.

THESE WERE SENT TO Y'ALL PREVIOUSLY.

THEY'RE ROUTINE.

UM, BUDGET AMENDMENT AND LINE ITEM TRANSFERS.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I CAN ENTERTAIN YOU LOOK GOOD TO ME.

MR. PHILLIPS MAKES A MOTION.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

WHO? SAY THAT YOU, ME, MR. BARBER.

MAKE SECOND.

DISCUSS, CONSIDER CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT OR FINANCIAL INFORMATION PROVIDED BY YOU.

A MOTION CARRIES AUDITOR.

ONE MORE TIME.

[19. Auditor; Discuss/Consider claims for payment and/or Financial Information as provided by the County Auditor.]

SO THIS WEEK WE HAVE TWO WEEKS WORTH OF BILLS.

UM, SINCE WE DIDN'T HAVE COMMISSIONER'S COURT LAST WEEK, UM, WE HAVE A TOTAL OF $10,927,735 AND 71 CENTS, ACCOUNTS PAYABLE INVOICES.

UM, WE HAVE A TOTAL OF $9,786 IN JUROR CHECKS.

AND WE ALSO HAVE PAYROLL OF $1,934,923 AND 86 CENTS.

UM, AND MOST OF THESE ACCOUNTS PAYABLE INVOICES ARE MADE UP OF YOUR DEBT PAYMENTS AND YOUR ROAD BOND PAYMENTS.

AND REMEMBER WE DID MEET LAST WEEK, SO THIS IS, YES.

THIS A DOUBLE WHAMMY TODAY.

SO WE ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL.

ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? I NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE.

I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

MR. MOORE MAKES THE MOTION TO I HAVE A SECOND.

MR. PHILLIPS MAKES A SECOND.

MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING.

[20. Adjourn Meeting]

MR. PHILLIPS MAKES THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

UH, MR. BARR MAKES A SECOND.