Mar 26, 2024 Commissioners Court

WE HAVE ONE PERSON WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK.

ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.

[1. ROUTINE CORRESPONDENCE.]

TERRY, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD PLEASE AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE.

MY NAME IS TARA KOVICH, UM, 1 1 0 9 0 COUNTY ROAD, 2,400 IN POETRY, TEXAS.

UM, I RECEIVED NOTIFICATION, UM, YESTERDAY THAT, UM, NUMBER EIGHT ON TODAY'S AGENDA WAS REGARDING TERMINATION OF THE ILA WITH THE TOWN OF POETRY.

UM, AS MAYOR OF THE TOWN OF POETRY.

I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT WE DO NOT WISH TO TERMINATE THAT AGREEMENT.

UM, I'D LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH COMMISSIONER BARBER AND AARON CONWAY AND, AND IN THE FUTURE, UM, KELLY LANE.

SO WE, WE WOULD LIKE OUR, UM, AGREEMENT TO STAND.

AND I HAVEN'T TALKED WITH HIM REGARDING THAT.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S UP.

I HOPE HE'S, HE'S WELL, UM, AFTER THIS PROCEDURE.

BUT I, I JUST WANT TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT, THAT THE TOWN OF POETRY WOULD LIKE TO, IN, IN, IN CLAUSE EIGHT, UM, OF THAT AGREEMENT.

I DON'T SEE, UM, THAT THAT CAN BE DONE.

IT SAYS WITH AGREEMENT WITH THE TOWN AND, UM, AND CONSENT OF THE COUNTY, THIS AGREEMENT MAY NOT BE CHANGED, ALTERED, OR MODIFIED WITHOUT PRIOR WRITTEN CONSENT OF THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY.

SO IN THE AGREEMENT ITSELF, I DON'T SEE THE, THE MEANS TO WHICH IT CAN BE TERMINATED.

SO, OKAY.

THAT'S ALL.

HOPEFULLY TERRY WILL BE BACK NEXT WEEK.

YES, SIR.

FROM HIS SURGERY.

AND SO, OKAY.

WE'LL PUT IT BACK ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT WEEK, SIR.

YEAH, THANK YOU.

, APPRECIATE YOU COMING.

EVERYONE HAD TIME TO LOOK AT THE CONSENT AGENDA? AND IS THERE ANY CORRECTIONS OR COMMENTS TO BE MADE? OH, I JUST ADDED, UH, I SHOWED SOME OUTLAYS TO IT FOR RENEWAL.

HAS

[2. CONSENT AGENDA]

WE DID THE ONES THAT WAS EXPIRING EVERY YEAR TO SAVE TIME.

UH, I JUST ADDED THEM ONLY, WE'RE DOING THE AUTO RENEWING ONES AS WELL.

SO I JUST, WE JUST REDONE 'EM ALL THIS YEAR, SO WE'RE NOT HAVING TO DO THIS EVERY YEAR PROCESS, SO.

ANYTHING ELSE? ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YOU NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

MR. MOORE MADE A MOTION.

I HAVE A SECOND.

MAYOR, MAKE SECOND.

[3. Tracy Gray: Discuss/Consider moving Indigent Defense to the 489th instead of to County Court at Law,]

IS NOT HERE.

GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS.

I KNOW THEY'RE HAVING SOME COURT TODAY, SO WE'RE GONNA PASS ON THAT ONE.

SHERIFF

[4. Sheriff Beavers Discuss/Approve moving a Detention Position to Open Records Clerk at $53,199.00.]

BEAVERS.

GOOD MORNING, SHERIFF.

DISCUSS AND PROVE THE ATTENTION POSITION TO OPEN RECORDS CLERK AT 53 1 9 9.

WHAT WE'RE DOING IS DUE TO THE RECENT, UH, IMPACT THAT WE'VE HAD OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS, OUR OPEN RECORDS, UH, WE'RE GETTING OVER AN AVERAGE OF 400 A MONTH.

AND DUE TO ALL THE VIDEO AND EVERYTHING WE HAVE, I'VE GOTTA HAVE ANOTHER STAFF TO DO THAT.

AND THEN AT THIS POINT, I JUST, IT'D BE EASIER TO MOVE JUST TO OPEN JAILER STAFF, MOVE IT OVER TO THAT.

IT'S GONNA COST US A LITTLE OVER $1,400.

WE'VE ALREADY GOT THAT MONEY IN EXCESS SALARY.

UH, WE'VE TALKED TO THE AUDITOR AND EVERYTHING'S GOOD TO DO.

WE JUST, WE'VE GOTTA DO SOMETHING TO PROVE THAT.

'CAUSE WE HAVE 10 DAYS TO GET 'EM DONE AND WE'RE PUSHING THE LIMIT ON IT ALL THE TIME.

SO I'M ASKING FOR Y'ALL TO MOVE THAT JAILER POSITION TO THAT OPEN RECORDS POSITION WITH THAT LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA CHANGE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE EQUAL WITH ALL THE PAY THAT I HAVE TO BE UNDER THE LAW.

ARE IRON AND TWO, AND IT'S VERY TIME CONSUMING.

AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DO.

WE HAVE ANY CHOICE IN THIS BECAUSE OF THE TIME LIMIT? YEAH.

THE 10 DAYS CONSTRAINTS PUT ON US.

YEAH, VERY MUCH.

AND WHEN WE DO ALL THESE VIDEOS, WE HAVE TO WATCH THE VIDEOS TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO INFORMATION IN THERE.

WE OUT REDACT AND SOME OF THESE VIDEOS

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VERY TIME CONSUMING.

SO MY ONE PERSON IS DROWNING.

I UNDERSTAND.

AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, YOU HAVE TO REDACT CERTAIN MATERIAL FROM THE VIDEOS.

IT IS A TIMELY PROCESS.

SO ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE SHERIFF? NO, IT MAKES SENSE TO ME.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

THANK.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS MAKES A MOTION.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

MR. WICK.

SECOND.

IF YOU'LL COME AND LET US, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT YOUR, THE COUNTY LIBRARY AND IN THE ECLIPSE FOR SOUL FEST OF MONDAY, APRIL THE EIGHTH AT KAMAN SPORTS COMPLEX.

[5. Yasma Holland: Discuss/Consider/Approve the Kaufman County Library closing to allow staff to participate in the Sol Fest on Monday, April 8, 2024 at the Kaufman Sports Complex.]

AND YOU AND I HAVE VISITED YES.

BECAUSE WE HAD A LITTLE MISCOMMUNICATION LAST WEEK, BUT YES.

SO IF YOU'LL JUST TELL THE COURT YOUR PLANS AND ANY PLANS FOR THE LIBRARY DURING THAT DAY.

SO GOOD MORNING, JUDGE ALLEN.

GOOD MORNING.

LISTENERS, UM, NASA FOR LIBRARIES AND THE SEAL PROJECT, WHICH IS THE SOLAR ECLIPSE ACTIVITIES FOR LIBRARIES, STARTED TRAINING LIBRARIES ABOUT A YEAR AGO, PREPARING US FOR NOT ONLY THE ANNUAL ECLIPSE THAT WAS IN OCTOBER, BUT THIS BIG SOLAR ECLIPSE IS COMING ON APRIL THE EIGHTH.

SO I ATTENDED THE TRAININGS IN KERRVILLE, TEXAS AND IN HILLSBOROUGH.

AND THOSE TWO WERE LIKE THE TOP 10 PL OR ON THE TOP 10 LIST OF WHERE TO GO TO WATCH THE ECLIPSE.

AND WE LEARNED NOT ONLY IS THIS GONNA BE LIKE A REALLY COOL EVENT FOR EVERYBODY, BUT CHARGE THE LIBRARIES TO PUT THE EDUCATION ASPECT ON IT, TO DO THE SCIENCE, TO TEACH THE COMMUNITY WHY, HOW, UM, ABOUT THE ECLIPSE AND YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT.

SO I BROUGHT ALL THAT INFORMATION BACK AND WE STARTED PLANNING AT THE LIBRARY, UM, EVERYTHING THAT WE WERE GONNA DO.

AND AS PART OF THOSE WORKSHOPS TOO, WE WERE ABLE TO APPLY FOR GRANTS TO GET FREE GLASSES FOR OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE DISTRIBUTE, THAT WE'RE DISTRIBUTING NOW AT OUR PROGRAMS. UM, BEFORE THE ECLIPSE, BEFORE THE ACTUAL AP APRIL 8TH EVENT.

UM, SO WE STARTED PLANNING, UM, ENTERTAINERS AND SPEAKERS LAST WEEK.

WE HAD ALL OF NASHVILLE ELEMENTARY FIRST GRADERS COME THROUGH WHERE NOT ONLY DID THEY GET TO TOUR THE LIBRARY, BUT WE DID SOME HANDS-ON STORY TIME ACTIVITIES FOR THEM TO TEACH THEM ABOUT THE UPCOMING AND C***S.

SO WE STARTED PLANNING OUR EVENTS AND, BUT THEN WHEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT STARTED LETTING OUT, IT JUST KIND OF CHANGED THE DYNAMICS OF WHAT WE WERE GONNA DO BECAUSE IF THE CROWD WOULD, WOULD BE ANYTHING LIKE OUR SUMMER PROGRAMS OR EVEN OUR WEDNESDAY PROGRAMS, THE PARKING IS AN ISSUE.

AND THEN JUST EVEN TO CARRY OUT THOSE ACTIVITIES IN THE LIBRARY, THE SPACE WAS GONNA BE LIMITED.

SO WHEN THE CITY OF KAUFMAN STARTED PLANNING THEIR SOUL FEST AND ASKED US IF WE WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE, I JUST THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA NOT ONLY TO BE OUT THERE, BUT TO BE IN A CONFINED, MORE CONFINED SPACE WITH ALL OF THE CROWDS.

SO WE COULD SPREAD OUR ACTIVITIES OUT THERE.

AND I THINK THE CITY'S DOING BOUNCE HOUSES, FOOD TRUCKS, ALL THE YARD GAMES.

BUT THE LIBRARY IS GOING TO HAVE A SCIENCE STATION WHERE WE'LL BE DOING SOME HANDS-ON ACTIVITIES.

WE'RE GONNA BE DOING SOLAR PRINTS, SOLAR BRACELETS, UM, WE'RE GOING TO DO MAKE YOUR OWN PINHOLE VIEWERS, WE'LL HAVE OUR STORY WALK SET SO YOU CAN WALK ALONG AND READ, UM, ABOUT THE ECLIPSE AND ANOTHER STORY ON THE BACK OF IT AND SOME MORE THINGS THAT WE'LL BE DOING THERE.

UM, SO WHEN THE CITY ASKED US TO DO THAT, I JUST THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA FOR US TO MOVE IT THERE.

UM, WE CAN LEAVE.

WE VISITED AND SAID THAT WE CAN LEAVE A STAFF MEMBER AT THE LIBRARY TO ANSWER THE PHONES AND IF ANY QUESTIONS COME UP, BUT I FEEL IT WILL TAKE ALL OF US TO REALLY CARRY IT OUT PROPERLY IF IT'S GOING TO BE, EVEN IF IT'S JUST OUR COMMUNITY AND NOT NECESSARILY OUTSIDE PEOPLE JUST TO OUR, OUR KIDS AND OUR FAMILIES DOING THAT.

THEN IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR US TO BE THERE AND THEN HAVE THE SECURITY.

THEY HAVE A, I THINK THE HOSPITAL'S DOING A FIRST AID TENT, COFFIN, FIRE DEPARTMENT, CLEAR FLIGHT, ALL OF THAT'S GONNA BE COVERED OUT THERE.

SO DO YOU HAVE ANY I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

I'M GLAD YOU'RE DOING IT.

DO YOU HAVE A TENT OR SOMETHING IF, TO GET UNDER FOR YOUR PROJECTS AND STUFF? MM-HMM.

YOU GOT THAT TAKEN HERE.

SO WE HAVE A TENT AND THEN THE CITY HAS LIKE 10 I THINK THAT THEY CAN LET US LOAN US TOO.

WITH TABLES.

AND COMMISSIONER HUNT DID GRACIOUSLY VOLUNTEER SOME OF THE PRECINCT ONE TO HELP US SET UP ANYTHING THAT WE NEED TO OH GOOD.

ESPECIALLY OUR STORY WALK AND, UM, SOME OF THOSE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA SET UP OUT THERE.

SO YEAH.

LET'S HOPE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN.

SO WILL YOU SET UP THAT MORNING EARLY OR THAT, OR WE'LL SET UP THAT MORNING EARLY OR WHAT YOU PLAN? I THINK WE'RE SETTING UP THAT MORNING EARLY.

I'LL HAVE TO GET WITH NATALIE AND JESSE TO SEE THE, THE, THE LAST PLANNING PROCESS OF IT.

AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, OUR PLAN B IF, UM, IT SHOULD BE TOO CLOUDY, TOO RAINY.

NASA ACTUALLY STREAMS IT.

SO WE WOULD BE BACK IN THE LIBRARY IN OUR MEETING ROOM WITH THE BIG TV THAT WE CAN STREAM THE EVENT FOR PEOPLE AS WELL.

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WELL, AT LEAST YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE AN ALTERNATE PLANE.

I THINK, I MEAN I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S PRETTY COOL.

OH YEAH.

I THINK SO TOO.

I MEAN, A LOT OF PEOPLE WON'T BE ABLE TO DO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

AND THEN REPRESENTATIVE BELL SENT ME A, A EMAIL LAST NIGHT.

UH, LOOKS LIKE THE IMPACT TO OUR COMMUNITY HERE IS ABOUT SIX AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.

THAT COULD, IF EVERYTHING IS MM-HMM.

PLAN HAPPENS, THEN IT WOULD BE A BIG BOOST FOR THE COUNTY.

WE'RE GETTING PHONE CALLS EVERY DAY OF ABOUT THE RV PARKING, CAMPING, UM, WHERE EVEN ONE ABOUT THE NUMBER OF HANDICAPPED SPACES ON THE SQUARE IF THEY COME TO THE SQUARE.

SO I ACTUALLY DROVE AROUND AND COUNTED THOSE SPACES.

I COULD GIVE IT BACK TO 'EM.

BUT YES.

SO OUR FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY IS SUPPORTING THIS TOO.

UM, THEY'RE FUNDING MOST OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING.

A LOT OF THE THINGS WE'RE DOING, WE ALREADY HAD ON HAND.

THEY WILL ACTUALLY BE SELLING LIKE, BOOK BAGS OUT THERE AS A FUNDRAISER FOR THE LIBRARY TOO.

UM, TO SUPPORT OUR SUMMER PROGRAM.

THAT'S GREAT.

AND I WILL SAY TOO, WITH THE CITY OF KAUFMAN, THEY DO CONTRIBUTE TO OUR BUDGET EVERY YEAR.

YES, THEY DO.

SO THIS IS A GREAT PARTNERSHIP FOR ME TO HELP GIVE BACK TO THEM AS WELL.

AND, YOU KNOW, I NEED TO CHECK WITH CASEY TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL FOR THE PARKING, THAT WE CAN MOVE THOSE DUMPSTERS THERE.

'CAUSE THEY'RE DOING THE TEAR OUT FOR THE ASBESTOS.

AND HOPEFULLY THEY SHOULD BE THROUGH YEAH.

TO GET IT OFF THE SQUARE.

GET THAT OFF THE SQUARE.

MM-HMM, , LET ME MAKE MYSELF A NOTE HERE.

DO THEY IT THROUGH WITH IT BY THEN THOUGH? WELL, THEY'VE HAD A, A, A, A BLIP OR TWO.

SO I KNOW I, I WENT BY THERE THE OTHER DAY AND YOU, YOU KNOW, TRADITIONALLY LIBRARIES ARE REAL QUIET AND SOLEMN.

YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU WALK IN THERE AND IT WAS LIKE, THE KIDS WERE EXCITED ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT WAS GOING ON.

, THEY HAD 'EM OFF IN A CORNER, BUT I MEAN, YOU COULD TELL THERE WAS A LOT OF KIDS IN THERE.

SO THEY, THEY'RE REALLY TAKING ADVANTAGE OF, OF EDUCATING OUR KIDS AND STUFF.

AND IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, A LIBRARY WAS A BIG PART OF MY LIFE GROWING UP AND THE LIBRARY WAS SOMETHING SPECIAL TO MY DADDY IN-LAW, SO.

WHENEVER THEY STARTED IT BACK IN THE DAY.

WHENEVER HE WAS A COUNTY JUDGE.

SO I THINK YOU STILL HAVE A BOOK OVER THERE, RIGHT? I OVERDUE .

I CAN SAY SHE'S, UM, YEAH, I STILL GOT ONE.

ONE.

SHE'S IMPACTED OUR LIFE TOO.

'CAUSE I TOOK MY KIDS LAST WEEKEND, I THINK IT WAS TO THE, UM, SOLAR ECLIPSE LITTLE THING THAT THEY HAD THERE.

AND THEY LOVED IT.

THERE WAS A VENTRILOQUIST AND THEY LEARNED A LOT ABOUT THE SOLAR ECLIPSE THAT DAY.

WELL, WE APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING, YOU HAVE DONE.

AND I THINK THIS IS A GREAT IDEA.

I TOO.

SO I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THIS.

I'LL SECOND IT.

MR. HU MAKES A SECOND.

GONNA PASS ON NUMBER SIX, NUMBER SEVEN THEN COMMISSIONER

APPRECIATE IT VERY, VERY MUCH.

WE'RE

[6. Commissioner Barber: Discuss/ Consider sending notice of termination/cancellation of the ILA with the Town of Poetry for Road Maintenance.]

[7. Commissioner Hunt: Discuss/Consider giving Mrs. Jones permission to sell vegetable plants for gardeners on the Annex parking lot,]

HUNT'S UP TO YOU.

DISCUSS, CONSIDER GIVING MR. JONES PERMISSION TO SELL OR MRS. JONES PERMISSION TO SELL VEGETABLE PLANTS AND GARDENERS AND PLANTS ON THE ANNEX PARKING LOT.

AND Y'ALL ALL HAVE A MAP.

AND HIS LEGAL HAD TIME TO LOOK AT THIS AND REVIEW IT.

NOT WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT.

WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

AND WHAT SHE ALSO PROVIDED, UH, CERTIFICATE OF LIABILITY INSURANCE AND HER AG TIMBER REGISTRATION.

SO EVERYTHING ON THEIR PART IS DONE.

IT IS JUST A, IT'S A, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO JUST GET ITS GARDENING SEASON, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, EVERYBODY'S BUYING THESE PLANTS AND STUFF TO GET THEIR GARDENS IN, YOU KNOW, SO, SO THEY CAN GET 'EM ALL ON THE GROUND FOR THE LAST FREEZE.

SO YES.

SO THEN THEY CAN SELL SOME MORE PLANTS WHENEVER THE FREEZE COMES.

SO, BUT, UH, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT, UH, Y'ALL, ANY QUESTIONS? MR. AND MRS. JONES ARE HERE, UH, IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM.

SO THERE'S, OKAY, SO HERE'S ONE, ONE THING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP ONCE.

HOW ARE YOU GONNA ROPE THIS OFF? AND WHAT IF OTHER PEOPLE WANNA SET UP AND DO THE SAME THING? THERE HAS TO BE A SPOT, A TIME OR A PLACE TO WHERE YOU SAY WE'RE FULL.

HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THAT? NO.

I MEAN, IF IT, UH, GROWS AND GOES ALONG WITH THE, UH, MARKET THAT'S RIGHT THERE AROUND THE CORNER, IT WOULD BE A GOOD THING FOR THE COMMUNITY.

IT WOULD.

AND THEN, AND 'CAUSE THE PARKING LOT IS NOT REALLY USED ON THE WEEKEND.

SO, UH, I I, I THINK THAT, UH, WE CAN DEAL WITH THAT OR WE CAN COME UP WITH SOME TYPE OF GUIDELINES.

BUT, UH, THIS'S THE SPACE THAT Y'ALL ARE TALKING ABOUT IS HOW MANY SQUARE FOOT? IT'S JUST A, IT'S JUST A COUPLE OF TABLES.

AS FAR AS WE NEED TO MAKE SURE SOME OF THE COUNTY CARS ARE MOVED UP TO THE FRONT.

'CAUSE SOMETIMES ON THE WEEKENDS THEY LEAVE THEM IN BACK THERE PARKED.

OH, BACK UP CLOSE TO THE BUILDING.

I THOUGHT THEY LEFT THEM IN THE PARKING LOT.

THEY LIVE IN THE PARKING LOT.

BUT WE NEED TO, ON THIS BACK SECTION HERE THAT YOU HAVE, SOMETIMES THERE ARE COUNTY CARS LEFT BACK HERE ON THE WEEKENDS.

SO THEY NEED TO BE KNOWN TO MOVE UP HERE OR MOVE UP THE BEHIND THE BUILDING, WHOEVER PARKS UP THERE.

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OUR TENT IS LIKE 10 BY 15.

SO, SO, UM, AND IT WOULD BE ON, I'M A PART OF THE MARKET ON GROVE ALSO.

UM, YOU DON'T HAVE HER COME UP JUDGE, IT'S JUST KIND OF, YOU KNOW, YOU WANNA YEAH.

YOU DON'T HAVE HER JUST COME UP.

YOU WANNA YES.

COME UP PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME AND SEE.

I TOLD YOU I HAVE TO GIVE ABOUT A 30 MINUTE ORATORY .

GOOD MORNING, YOU ALL.

HOW ARE YOU? GOOD MORNING.

UM, MY NAME IS SUZANNE JONES.

I'M LOCAL HERE IN TOWN.

UM, ALL OF THE PLANTS THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, THEIR VEGETABLE PLANTS THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT SELLING HAVE BEEN LOCAL GROWN.

THEY HAD, IT'S NOT A THIRD PARTY BUY SELL THING, MAKING SOME QUICK MONEY, GET SOME RETIREMENT POCKET MONEY.

UM, SO IT WOULD BE JUST VEGETABLE PLANTS.

THERE'S A SPOT THAT IS MARKED ON THE MAP THAT, UM, THERE'S A LOW SPOT.

THERE'S WATER THAT SITS THERE, SO WE'LL HAVE TO SQUEEGEE IT.

UM, BUT IT'S JUST ON A, ON A WEEKEND, YOU KNOW, ONE DAY FOR FOUR OR FIVE HOURS TO GET RID OF THE PLANTS THAT I HAVE GROW.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONLY SO LONG THAT I CAN HOLD THEM OVER AND THEY NEED TO BE IN THE GROUND.

SO, UM, ASIDE FROM DUMPING THEM OR GIVE, I GUESS I COULD GIVE 'EM TO THE SCHOOL, BUT, UH, TO KIND OF JUST GET RID OF INVENTORY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE MARKET ON GROVE IS EVERY OTHER SATURDAY, SO I'M TRYING TO MAKE UP THOSE OTHER SATURDAYS TO BE ABLE TO BE DONE BY MAY SO I CAN BE IN MY OWN YARD.

SO I GET IT.

I GET IT.

THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.

AND I DID THE LIVESTOCK SHOW OUT THERE.

YES, YOU DID.

WE WERE OUT THERE AND UM, GOT, YOU KNOW, WERE ABLE TO LET GO OF SOME THERE.

SO YOU GOT A LOT OF NICE PLANTS TOO, BY THE WAY.

OH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THEY'RE ALL GROWN FROM SEATED HOME.

YES, THEY ARE.

AND A LOT OF HEIRLOOMS. THEY ARE.

HEIRLOOM, NOT HYBRID.

SOME OF 'EM ARE HYBRID.

SOME OF 'EM, MOST OF 'EM ARE HEIRLOOMS. SO, UM, JUST KIND OF, YOU KNOW, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, ANYBODY COMMENTS, CONCERNS? AND I THINK IF, IF OTHER PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN, WE CAN, WE CAN DEAL WITH THAT AS COMES IN.

SO YEAH, I, I MEAN, I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM WITH OKAY.

AND I DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, I MADE SURE THAT YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE COVERED AND GET YOU GUYS COVERED FOR INSURANCE AND I CAN GET A, YOU KNOW, UM, A, UM, WE GOT, WE HAVE A CERTIFICATE HERE.

UM, AN ADDITIONAL NAME FOR THE COUNTY LISTED ON THERE IF WE NEED IT.

THAT WOULD BE GOOD IF YOU DID.

I CAN DO THAT.

THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

THERE'S USUALLY NOT A FEE FOR THAT, JUST A MATTER OF PAPERWORK.

NO, THERE'S NOT.

YOU JUST GO IN AND SIGN UP AND DO IT.

SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? OKAY.

ARE YOU GUYS A DBA BUSINESS WISE OR ARE YOU JUST UM, YES, WE HAVE, WE HAVE OUR OWN COMPANY LOOK ON THE, UM, AND IT SAID IT'S RIGHT HERE.

IT WOULD BE A DBA.

GO BACK THIRD PAGE PLANT NAME.

I NEED A MOTION THEN I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE LET HER DO MAYOR TO MAKES A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

MR. PHIS MAKES A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

AND I'LL LET YOU KNOW DATES OR WHATEVER.

IT'S JUST MORE MAYBE THREE DATES.

IF YOU'LL GIVE THAT TO, UH, COMM, COMMISSIONER, HUNT, THEN HE CAN DISSEMINATE IT THE REST OF US.

MR. GARRETT, WE HAVE NUMBER EIGHT.

OKAY,

[8. Jorge Gallosa Jr: Discuss/Present the status of FIF Grant as well as the next steps in the process,]

THAT IS THAT GEORGE OSA? IS THAT, PRONOUNCE THAT RIGHT? UH, YEAH, YOU DID DISCUSS PRESENT THE, THE STATUS OF FIF GRANT AS WELL AS THE NEXT STEPS IN THE PROCESS.

YES, SIR.

SO TODAY, UH, ACTUALLY, INSTEAD OF, UH, GEORGE OSA, WE'RE ACTUALLY HAVING A DAVID RIVERA, HE'S GONNA BE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF FREESON NICHOLS.

GEORGE WASN'T ABLE TO MAKE IT.

NINE WE WILL DISCUSS, CONSIDER APPROVE THE CONTRACT EXTENSION WITH TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD, UH, COMMITMENT NUMBER G 1 0 0 1 3 5 1.

UM, HOWEVER, THIS IS JUST AN UPDATE TO SHOW Y'ALL WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE PROCESS AND WHAT THE KIND OF THE NEXT STEPS ARE GOING TO BE GOING FORWARD.

AND, UM, UH, AFTER THAT, THEN WE'LL DISCUSS THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS A CONTRACT EXTENSION.

UH, OKAY.

SO WE DON'T NEED TO, UH, THINKING THE ACTION NUMBER EIGHT.

BUT ON NUMBER

[9. Jorge Gallosa Jr: Discuss/Consider/Approve a contract extension with Texas Water Development Board of Commitment No. G1001351.]

SO GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.

UM, MY NAME IS DAVID RIVERA.

UH, IT'S A PLEASURE FOR ME TO BE HERE WITH YOU AGAIN.

UM, WE HAVE BEEN CONDUCTING A STUDY FOR THE COUNTY OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, AND NOW WE'RE AT THE POINT WHERE WE CAN TAKE SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WERE GENERATED OUT OF THAT STUDY AND PURSUE POTENTIAL FUNDING THROUGH

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THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD.

SO I'M HERE TODAY TO KINDA SHOW YOU THE PROCESS OF HOW THAT WORKS AND FOR YOU GUYS TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE YOUR OPTIONS, WHAT ARE THE ACTUAL FUNDING ALLOCATIONS AND HOW MUCH YOU COULD GET OUT OF THIS PROGRAM SO YOU CAN MAKE A DETERMINATION WHETHER TO MOVE FORWARD PURSUING FUNDING OR NOT, ESSENTIALLY.

SO, I'LL, I'LL START REAL QUICK WITH THE KEY ELEMENT OF ALL THIS IS THAT TEXAS IS DOING THE FIRST EVER STATE FLOOD PLAN.

AND, UM, 15 REGIONAL FLOOD PLANS WERE SUBMITTED TO THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD IN AUGUST OF LAST YEAR.

THOSE ARE BEING ESSENTIALLY BEING, YOU KNOW, REVIEWED BY THE BOARD AND THEY'LL BE ACCEPTED OR APPROVED FORMALLY IN SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR.

BUT ALL 15 PLANS HAVE ALREADY BEEN SUBMITTED AND COMPLETED.

OF COURSE, KAUFMAN COUNTIES IN REGION THREE, THE TRINITY, UH, REGIONAL FLOOD PLAN.

AND THE WAY THIS WORKS, ESSENTIALLY, EACH OF THESE REGIONS, UH, ARE RUN BY WHAT ARE CALLED REGIONAL FLOOD PLANNING GROUPS.

SO THESE ARE A GROUP OF FOLKS THAT ARE VOLUNTEERS FROM MANY DIFFERENT, UM, FIELDS.

AND, UM, THEY ESSENTIALLY RUN THE PROCESS AND THEY ARE THE ONES THAT RECEIVE FROM THE SPONSORS, IN THIS CASE, KAUFFMAN COUNTY, UM, REQUEST FOR INCLUDING PROJECTS IN THE REGIONAL FLOOD PLANS.

THEY LOOK AT THESE PROJECTS AND THEY SIMPLY CHECK THAT THEY MEET THE REQUIREMENTS ESTABLISHED BY THE BOARD AND THAT THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, IN LINE WITH THE GOALS OF THESE PLANS.

AND SIX FMPS LISTED IN THE PLANS.

SO THE NEXT STEP, AS I MENTIONED, IS PUTTING ALL THESE 15 REGIONAL FLOOD PLANS INTO THE STATE FLOOD PLAN.

AND THEN THE IMPLEMENTATION PART.

THAT'S THE KEY OF ALL THIS WITHOUT IMPLEMENTATION.

THERE'S, THOSE ARE JUST A PIECE OF PAPER, RIGHT? SO WHAT THE STATE HAVE DONE IS THAT THEY CREATED THE FLOOD INFRASTRUCTURE FUND, AND THAT'S THE FUNDING MECHANISM FOR PUSHING FORWARD THE ACTIONS THAT ARE LISTED IN THE STATE FLOOD PLAN.

NOW, THE FLOOD INFRASTRUCTURE FUND IS NOT THE FIRST TIME.

WE'VE ALREADY DONE THIS ONCE, ONE CYCLE.

AND JUST, JUST SO YOU KNOW, UM, OUR COMPANY, FRIES AND NICHOLS HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN 12 OUT OF THE 15 REGIONS THAT, UM, CREATED THESE FLOOD PLANS.

SO WE HAVE A VERY, YOU KNOW, EXTENSIVE KNOWLEDGE OF THAT PROCESS.

AND IN THE FIRST ROUND, IN THE FLOOD INFRASTRUCTURE FUND, WE SUPPORTED 31 APPLICATIONS AND WE WERE ABLE TO CLIENTS, UM, GET 56, 50 $6 MILLION IN PROJECT AWARDS BETWEEN GRANTS AND LOANS.

ONE OF THOSE 31 APPLICATIONS WAS YOURS, RIGHT? SO THAT WAS OUR KAUFFMAN COUNTY COUNTYWIDE DRAINAGE STUDY WHERE WE GOT A GRANT OF 75%, ESSENTIALLY, UM, $180,000 GRANT FROM THE BOARD.

AND YOU GUYS PUT A LOCAL SHARE OF $60,000.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE STUDY THAT WE COMPLETED, RIGHT? AND YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT THIS BEFORE, AND WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE TODAY, BUT THAT WAS THE FIRST ROUND WE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THAT.

AND NOW THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT IN THIS NEXT CYCLE OF FUNDING, THE LEGISLATOR LEGISLATURE, UM, SET ASIDE $624 MILLION FOR THIS ROUND.

NOW THIS IS ONLY FOR TWO YEARS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.

SO THEY'RE, FOR SOME REASON THEY DECIDED TO JUST SPEND 375 MILLION RIGHT? NOW.

LAST WE HEARD FROM THEM IS THEY'RE SAYING THEY CHANGED THE LANGUAGE AND THEY'RE SAYING WE'RE GONNA SPEND AT LEAST 375.

SO WE'LL SEE HOW THEY OPERATE.

UM, BUT THE BIG DIFFERENCE NOW IS ELIGIBILITY.

WHO'S ELIGIBLE FOR TAPPING INTO THESE FUNDS? THE ONLY PROJECTS THAT ARE ELIGIBLE ARE THOSE THAT ARE CURRENTLY LISTED IN ANY OF THE 15 REGIONAL FLOOD PLANS.

THOSE ARE THE ONLY PROJECTS.

YOU CAN'T COME IN WITH A NEW PROJECT NOW AND SAY, HEY, I WANNA PARTICIPATE WITH THIS NEW PROJECT.

THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE.

IT NEEDS TO BE LISTED IN THE FLOOD PLAN.

SO WHEN I, I WANT TO JUST BRIEFLY GIVE YOU THESE THREE ACRONYMS. 'CAUSE THOSE ARE THE FLOOD MITIGATION ACTIONS THAT ARE LISTED IN THE PLANS.

YOU HAVE YOUR FM E OR FLOOD MANAGEMENT EVALUATIONS.

THOSE ARE YOUR TYPICAL STUDIES.

SO WHAT WE JUST COMPLETED IS CONSIDERED AN FME.

THEN YOU HAVE YOUR FMPS, WHICH ARE YOUR FLOOD MITIGATION PROJECTS.

THOSE ARE THE ONES WHERE YOU WILL BE LOOKING FOR DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION FUNDS.

THESE ARE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.

AND THEN THE FM SS ARE FLOOD MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES.

THEY'RE, THEY DON'T FIT VERY WELL WITHIN THE OTHER TWO CATEGORIES.

IT COULD BE SOMETHING LIKE FLOOD WARNING SYSTEMS, EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGNS, KIND OF NON-STRUCTURAL FLOOD PROTECTION MEASURES.

SO THOSE ARE THE THREE TYPES OF ACTIONS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE PLANS.

AND RIGHT NOW, KAUFMAN COUNTY HAS ONE FME LISTED

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SO THOSE SEVEN ACTIONS ARE ELIGIBLE FOR FUNDING THROUGH THE FLOOD INFRASTRUCTURE FUND.

NOW, WHICH, WHICH ARE THOSE? SO THE FIRST ONE I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT IS THE FME, THE EVALUATION.

AND WHEN WE COMPLETED OUR, OUR COUNTYWIDE DRAINAGE STUDY, WHAT WE RECOGNIZED WAS THAT THERE WAS SO MUCH NEED, SO MUCH, SO MANY AREAS WITHIN THE COUNTY THAT WE IDENTIFIED OF HAVING POTENTIAL FLOOD RISK.

WE COULDN'T GET INTO ALL OF THEM AND STUDY THEM IN DETAIL.

SO WE THOUGHT THAT WE SHOULD SUBMIT A PHASE TWO OF THAT PROJECT TO THE REGIONAL FLOOD PLAN SO THAT WE COULD GET A CONTINUATION OF THAT STUDY.

AND GENERATING MORE PROJECTS FOR THE FUTURE CYCLES IS KIND OF A CYCLICAL PROCESS.

SO RIGHT NOW, THIS IS A, A STUDY THAT IS IN THE PLAN, AND IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN CONTINUING, UM, TO STUDY DIFFERENT AREAS WITHIN THE COUNTY AND CONTINUE FINDING ALTERNATIVES AND POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS, THEN THIS WOULD BE THE VEHICLE TO DO THAT KIND OF ANALYSIS.

THEN YOU HAVE YOUR SIX PROJECTS AND THESE SIX PROJECT AREAS WERE ESSENTIALLY SELECTED KIND OF IN CONSENSUS BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT COMMISSIONERS WITH GARRETT.

A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS WENT THROUGH TO SELECT OUT OF ALL THE SITES THAT WE VISITED AND AND SAW, WHICH WERE THE SIX THAT WERE MOST CRITICAL.

WE WERE LIMITED BY THE BUDGET OF THE FIRST, UM, PROJECT.

SO WE WERE ABLE TO RUN THROUGH SIX SITES AND BE ABLE TO COMPLETE THE ANALYSIS THAT WAS REQUIRED TO MAKE THEM ELIGIBLE TO BE INCLUDED IN THE PLANS.

TO PUT PROJECTS IN THE PLANS IS NOT EASY.

THEY HAVE A LOT OF REQUIREMENTS YOU NEED TO MEET.

THERE ARE A LOT OF INFORMATION YOU NEED TO PROVIDE.

SO WE DID THAT FOR SIX OF THEM AND HERE THEY ARE.

UM, I DON'T KNOW GARRETT, IF YOU WANT TO GIVE THEM A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHAT ARE THE ISSUES ON THOSE SITES OR JUST KEEP, KEEP ROLLING FOR NOW.

UH, LET'S JUST KEEP ROLLING FOR NOW.

THAT SECOND STAGE, THE COMPLETE APPLICATION, THIS IS A MUCH MORE EXTENSIVE PROCESS.

I'LL SAY FOR THE MOST PART, ROADWAY FLOODING SITUATIONS.

AND AT THREE OF THESE SITES YOU DO HAVE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ALSO AT RISK.

SO FOR THE MOST PART, THAT'S KIND OF THE SOLUTIONS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, IS HOW CAN WE MAKE THESE ROADS LESS SUSCEPTIBLE TO FLOODING AND REDUCE FLOODING RISK FOR SOME OF THESE COMMUNITIES.

UM, YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAPS, LIKE WE TRY TO HAVE AT LEAST ONE IN EACH OF THE PRISONS.

THAT WAS ALSO A CONSIDERATION.

NOW.

SO THOSE ARE YOUR PROJECTS AND STUDIES THAT ARE ELIGIBLE.

THE NEXT FEW SLIDES IS GONNA EXPLAIN THE PROCESS.

HOW, HOW DO WE GET A FUNDING FOR THESE PROJECTS? SO THE FIRST STEP IS WHAT THEY CALL AN ABRIDGE APPLICATION.

THAT'S STAGE ONE.

AND THAT IS ESSENTIALLY A SIMPLE FORM THAT WE NEED TO FILL OUT.

THINK OF IT AS PUTTING YOUR NAME IN THE HEAD.

I WANT TO BE CONSIDERED FOR FUNDING.

I'M GOING TO SUBMIT THIS A BRIDGE APPLICATION.

AND THAT'S ALL IT IS, RIGHT? WE ALL THE DATA THAT YOU REQUIRE, FOR THE MOST PART, IT'S ALREADY INCLUDED IN THE REGIONAL FLOOD.

SO THIS SHOULDN'T BE A VERY HEAVY LIFT TO PARTICIPATE.

AND THE DUE DATE IS COMING, IT'S APRIL 15TH.

UM, IT WAS ORIGINALLY MARCH 15.

THE BOARD DECIDED TO MOVE THAT, THANKFULLY.

AND ONE IMPORTANT ITEM TO CONSIDER IS THAT THERE'S NO FINANCIAL COMMITMENT AT THIS POINT.

YOU CAN REQUEST AND JUST SAY, HEY, I'M INTERESTED.

THAT'S ALL I'M DOING RIGHT NOW.

YOU'RE NOT COMMITTING ANY TO ANYTHING FINANCIALLY.

ONCE THE BOARD RECEIVES ALL THE APPLICATIONS, THEY'RE GONNA GO THROUGH A PROCESS OF SCORING AND RANKING THOSE PROJECTS.

IT'S THE SAME SCORING MECHANISM THAT THEY USE WITH THE STATE FLOOD PLAN, SAME EQUATIONS AND EVERYTHING.

THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT THEY'RE GONNA DO IT WITH THE ONES THAT ARE SUBMITTED, NOT WITH ALL OF THEM.

RIGHT? AND I'LL GET INTO THAT IN A LITTLE BIT.

SO THEY'LL HAVE TO KIND OF SEE WHAT THEY RECEIVE AND THERE COULD BE SOME UPDATES.

I'M HOPING WE DON'T NEED TO DO ANY UPDATES.

WE HAVE THE DATA ALL NICE AND CLEAN.

UM, AND THEY'LL HAVE TO RANK THEM BECAUSE THEN THEY GET INTO THIS PROCESS OF INVITING APPLICANTS TO SUBMIT WHAT THEY CALL A FULL APPLICATION.

AND THAT WOULD BE EXPECTED FOR THE FALL OF THIS YEAR.

WHEN THOSE INVITATIONS START TO GO OUT AND ALL THEY DO IS JUST GO FROM THE TOP RIGHT, THE, THE TOP RANKED PROJECTS.

THEY START INVITING THEM, THEY GO DOWN THE LIST AND SEEING THEIR FUNDING AVAILABILITY, HOW MUCH THAT'S GOING DOWN, AND THEY'LL GO AS FAR AS THEY CAN.

AND THEN THEY'LL WAIT TO SEE WHO ACTUALLY SUBMITS FULL APPLICATIONS.

IF THEY DON'T GET ENOUGH, THEY KEEP CALLING YOU, RIGHT? THEY KEEP GOING DOWN THE LIST UNTIL THEY CAN USE ALL THEIR ALLOCATED BUDGET.

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UM, THIS IS WHERE YOU WOULD NEED TO PROVIDE A FULL SCOPE OF WORK FOR THE PROJECT OR YOUR STUDY.

YOU NEED TO PROVIDE PHYSICAL INFORMATION, LEGAL INFORMATION, A FULL PROJECT SCHEDULE.

THERE'S ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT THEY'RE GONNA ASK YOU AT THAT STAGE.

ONCE, ONCE YOU'RE INVITED TO SUBMIT.

AND WE ARE GONNA HAVE JUST TWO MONTHS AFTER YOU'RE INVITED TO TURN BACK AND SUBMIT THOSE FULL APPLICATIONS.

SO IT'S A VERY QUICK TURNAROUND.

EVEN THEN THERE'S NO FINANCIAL COMMITMENT AT THIS POINT.

EITHER.

YOU CAN STILL BACK OUT AND SAY, NO, I'M NOT INTERESTED ANYMORE.

RIGHT? SO YOU STILL HAVE THAT IN, IN YOUR SIDE.

NOW WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS IN TERMS OF FUNDING? THE BOARD IS PROVIDING GRANTS.

THEY'RE PROVIDING GRANTS AND LOANS OR JUST LOANS.

THE GRANTS MAY RANGE FROM 5% OF THE COST TO A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE COST, DEPENDING ON THE AVERAGE MEDIUM HOUSEHOLD INCOME TO WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IS TO PROVIDE MORE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES FOR LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES.

AND YOU'LL, YOU'LL SEE HOW THAT PLAYS OUT.

IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN GETTING A LOAN, IT'S GONNA BE A 0% LOAN, RIGHT? SO THAT'S, THAT'S A HUGE ADVANTAGE VERSUS GETTING A LOAN IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

AND YOU COULD GET UP TO 30 YEARS OF REPAYMENT, YOU KNOW, FOR THOSE LOANS.

SO THOSE, THOSE ARE THE DIFFERENT TYPES.

NOW, HOW MUCH MONEY IS AVAILABLE? THEY SPLIT IT INTO THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES THAT I WAS EXPLAINING.

SO FOR THE STUDIES, THEY HAVE ABOUT $94 MILLION AVAILABLE FOR PROJECTS.

THEY HAVE ABOUT $244 MILLION AVAILABLE.

UM, THEY ALSO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR FEDERAL MATCHING.

IF YOU WERE LOOKING FOR A FEDERAL GRANT, THEY COULD ALSO PROVIDE, UM, THAT LOCAL MATCH.

IF, IF THAT'S THE CASE.

I, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THAT SITUATION HERE.

NOW THEY DO HAVE A CAP AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS 50% OF THE TOTAL AMOUNT WILL BE ALLOCATED AS GRANTS.

AND PER PROJECT ON A PER PROJECT BASIS IS GONNA BE A MAXIMUM OF ABOUT 19,000, UM, $19 MILLION IN GRANT MONEY FOR ANY GIVEN PROJECT.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF PROJECTS INCLUDED IN THE PLANS THAT EXCEED THAT AMOUNT BY FAR WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TOTAL COST.

SO THEY'RE NOT GONNA GET MORE THAN THAT AMOUNT.

YOUR PROJECTS, NONE OF THEM EXCEED THAT.

THEY'RE ALL BELOW THAT NUMBER.

JUST, JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND.

AND THEN THE KEY NUMBER TO DETERMINE WHAT GRANT PERCENTAGE YOU'LL BE ELIGIBLE FOR IS THE ANNUAL MEDIA HOUSEHOLD INCOME.

SO 73,000 IS THE STATEWIDE VALUE AND EVERYTHING IS COMPARED AGAINST THIS NUMBER.

HAS THAT COMBINED HOUSEHOLD INCOME, IT'S A, IT'S A WEIGHTED AVERAGE BASED ON POPULATION.

SO DON'T THINK IT, UM, IN TERMS OF THE ENTIRE COUNTY, IT'S GONNA BE DEFINED BY THE PROJECT AREA ITSELF, AREA ITSELF.

BUT HE'S ASKING IS IT COMBINED INCOME IN THE FAMILY IN THE HOUSE? YES.

YES, THAT'S RIGHT.

THAT'S RIGHT.

I MEAN, RIGHT NOW WHAT YOU KINDA IS, YEAH, I GET THAT.

SO I MEAN, FROM THE NORTH, NORTH YOU GO HIGHER INCOME BY THE SOUTH, YOU GO LOWER IN KAUFMAN, KINDA, YOU KNOW, BUT SO THAT'S THE ONE ITEM THAT IS, OR THE ONE, UM, CALCULATION THAT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE REGIONAL FLOOD PLANTS.

UM, WE WERE ABLE TO CALCULATE THAT, UM, AT LEAST A PRELIMINARY NUMBER AND I'LL SHOW YOU THAT IN A SECOND.

UM, FOR YOUR, UM, PROJECTS.

SO WE CAN SEE WHERE WE FALL.

OKAY? NOW THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD HAS CREATED THESE KIND OF BUCKETS.

AND DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU FALL WITH YOUR AVERAGE MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME, THAT'S YOUR GRANT ELIGIBILITY FOR STUDIES.

YOU COULD GET, YOU KNOW, FROM 50% GRANT TO UP TO A HUNDRED PERCENT GRANT.

AND TO GET A HUNDRED PERCENT GRANT IS QUITE DIFFICULT.

YOU NEED TO BE LESS THAN 50% OF THE, OF THAT 73,000.

IT'S VERY HARD.

BELOW 35,000 COMBINED INCOME ON THE HOUSEHOLD, WHICH WILL BE PRETTY TOUGH.

IT IT'LL BE TOUGH MONDAY.

WELL, I MEAN, IT'LL BE VERY HARD TO DO.

STUDY, IN THAT CASE THEN WE CAN USE THE GOMAN COUNTY VALUE.

IT'LL BE REAL HARD.

IT'LL BE HARD FOR, FOR THIS PARTICULAR STUDY THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, I HAVE IT HERE AT THE BOTTOM, THAT PHASE TWO OF THE PROJECT, UM, SINCE THAT ONE IS A COUNTYWIDE

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UM, IT'S 84,000.

THAT'S BASED ON THE 2022 CENSUS NUMBER.

SO FOR THAT CASE, THAT'S ESSENTIALLY 115% OF THE STATE VALUE.

SO THAT PUTS YOU ON THE 75% GRANT BUCKET.

WHICH IS THE SAME WE GOT FROM THE FIRST STACK.

YEAH, IT'S THE SAME, SAME THING.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, SO FOR THAT ONE, THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD EXPECT.

75% GRANT, THE OTHER 25% YOU CAN COVER IT WITH YOUR OWN FUNDS OR REQUEST A 0% LOAN.

THAT'S, THAT'S YOUR CHOICE.

NOW, I WILL SAY, UM, THAT THIS STUDY RANKED 255 OUT OF 3097 STUDIES THAT ARE SUBMITTED TO THE PLANT.

HMM.

SO THE STUDY HAS A VERY GOOD RANKING COMPARED TO EVERYTHING ELSE.

AND WE THINK IT HAS A VERY GOOD CHANCE OF BEING INVITED FROM THE BOARD FOR A FULL APPLICATION JUST BASED ON THE RANKING.

AND OF COURSE NOT EVERYBODY'S GOING TO SUBMIT.

RIGHT? THESE ARE JUST ALL THE ONES THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE PLANS.

AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING WITH SEVERAL OF OUR CLIENTS AND GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

WE KNOW FOR A FACT THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF THESE THAT ARE NOT GONNA BE SUBMITTED.

ALRIGHT? SO YOU'RE END UP BEING A LITTLE EVEN HIGHER THAN THAT.

SO GOOD.

SO THERE'S A GOOD LIKELIHOOD, AT LEAST FOR THE STUDY ON THE FMP SIDE, THE PROJECTS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT AND IT'S TOUGHER TO GET GRANT MONEY.

'CAUSE IN THIS CASE, YOU START GETTING GRANTS, IF YOUR HOUSEHOLD INCOME IS LESS THAN 85% OF THE STATE VALUE, YOU START AT 30%.

SO THIS IS ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS PER PROJECT, AND THE MAXIMUM YOU COULD GET IS 70.

UM, BUT YOU WOULD NEED TO BE LESS THAN 50% OF THE STATE.

UM, IN THIS CASE, YOU DO MEET THE RURAL DEFINITION, NO CITIES WITH POPULATION GREATER THAN 50,000 WITHIN THE JURISDICTION.

UM, SO YOU GET THAT EXTRA 5% GRANT MONEY.

UM, WELL THAT WOULDN'T BE MY, WELL, IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED.

YOU'RE POTENTIALLY HIGHER.

NOW WE WENT AHEAD AND CALCULATED THOSE NUMBERS FOR YOU AND FOR THESE SIX PROJECTS, YOU CAN SEE IN THIS GRAPHIC, THE TABLE SHOWS YOU THE RANK.

SO THE SIX PROJECTS ARE NOT AS HIGH AS THE STUDY.

JUST LET ME START WITH THAT.

THE HIGHEST RANK IS 4 72 OUT OF 615 TOTAL WITHIN THE STATE.

SO, AND THIS IS A COMPETITION, RIGHT? YOU'RE COMPETING.

NOW KEEP IN MIND THERE'S NOT GONNA BE 615 APPLICATIONS SUBMITTED FOR SURE.

WE KNOW THAT.

SO THAT RANK OF 4 72 IS NOT REALLY TELLING YOU THE FULL STORY.

UM, WE DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GONNA PLAY OUT, RIGHT? WE NEED TO WAIT, BUT KEEP THAT IN MIND, RIGHT? IT'S, IT'S ALSO YOU NEED TO CONSIDER, I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN SUBMITTING WHEN MY PROJECT IS RANKED AT THIS LEVEL.

THAT'S ONE THING.

THE OTHER THING TO CONSIDER ONLY THE FIRST TWO PROJECTS, KING STREET AND COUNTY ROAD 3 42, THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE THROUGH 35% GRANT.

THE OTHERS, WHEN WE CALCULATED THE NUMBERS, IT, IT, THEY WERE TOO HIGH.

THOSE, UM, AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD INCOME NUMBERS WERE JUST GREATER THAN 85%.

WELL THAT'S WHAT I SAID.

I MEAN, I COULD HAVE TOLD YOU THAT BEFORE WE GOT TO THAT PAGE.

THERE YOU GO.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT, IT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, AND THEN YOU GOTTA COME BACK TO YOU.

YOU'D BE MAINLY DOING IT IF IT'S A PROJECT REALLY WORTH IT.

THE 5% IS SOMETHING, BUT IT, IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THE PROJECT AND IT'S GOING TO BE WELL WORTH IT, THEN YOU'RE DOING IT FOR THE 0% 30 YEAR LOAN.

TO BE ABLE TO DO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE TRYING TO BUILD A ROAD, YOU GOT A TWO MILE LONG BRIDGE THAT YOU NEED TO PUT IN THAT'S, YOU KNOW, $30 MILLION OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A GOOD DEAL JUST TO GET 5% AND A 0% AND A 0%, 0%.

I, I AGREE.

THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD BE AFTER.

WHEN YOU'RE TALKING MILLION DOLLAR PROJECTS, THEN THAT 0% LOAN MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE.

WE HAVE OTHER CLIENTS THAT, THAT GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND THEY MADE COMBINATIONS OF, YEAH, WE'LL PUT SOME, WE'LL TAKE THE 0% LOAN AT THE END.

THEY SAVE MORE THAN $30 MILLION IN INTEREST JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE, I MEAN THAT'S A, THAT'S, THAT'S A HUGE GAIN BY ITSELF.

SO, BUT I WANT IT TO BE VERY CLEAR, RIGHT? THAT, THAT IN THIS CASE, THOSE ARE THE LEVELS OF GRANT MONEY THAT YOU COULD

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GET.

EVERYTHING ELSE WOULD BE A LOAN IN THIS, RIGHT? IN THIS CASE.

SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND.

UM, 5% DOES PAY FOR THE ENGINEERING.

MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT.

LIKE, LIKE ON THE $8 MILLION PROJECT OR 41 16, THEY'D ONLY PAY 400,000 TOTAL.

SO YEAH, THAT'S BECAUSE EVERYBODY MAKES MORE MONEY ON THAT AREA, RIGHT? YEP.

RIGHT, BECAUSE IT'S VERY SPECIFIC TO THE AREA DEFINED BY THE PROJECT.

WELL, THAT'S WHAT I SAID.

YOU'RE GONNA COME BACK TO THE ZERO ALONE.

IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT IT HAS TO BE DONE AND YOU HAVE NO CHOICE, YOU, YOU, YOU'RE GONNA, SOONER OR LATER YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT.

THE COUNTY OR WHATEVER MIGHT NOT BE THIS GROUP OF PEOPLE, BUT IT MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, 10 YEARS OR 15 YEARS AND IT IS A FORCED ISSUE.

YOU KNOW, SO EITHER GONNA DO IT ON A BOND OR YOU'RE GONNA DO IT ON A LOAN, OR YOU'RE GONNA DO IT ON WHATEVER YOU'RE GONNA DO IT ON.

SO IT'S A DECISION YOU HAVE TO MAKE.

THESE SITES ARE, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE SELECTED FOR A REASON, RIGHT? THIS IS A CRITICAL SITUATION.

YOU GUYS HAVE EXPERIENCE SIGNIFICANT FLOODING RECENTLY.

YOU, YOU KNOW HOW THIS GOES.

SO, SO IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY, RIGHT? AND, AND YOU COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE, UM, IN THIS PROCESS.

AND WHAT, WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING, OUR, OUR THOUGHT IS THAT WE CAN OFFER THE SERVICE OF SUBMITTING THESE APPLICATIONS FOR YOU.

UM, WE HAVE A PROPOSAL THAT WE SENT TO GARRETT WHERE WE'RE SAYING, OKAY, FOR EACH ABRIDGE APPLICATION, THAT FIRST STEP, IT TAKES US ABOUT $5,000 TO GET THOSE SUBMITTED, PREPARE ALL THE INFORMATION, THEY REQUEST ALL THE MAPS, THE DIGITAL DATA, ALL THAT STUFF.

BUT FOR THE STUDY, THE ONE ON THE, UM, LEFT SIDE, WE, WE THINK THAT THERE'S A HIGH LIKELIHOOD THAT THAT'S GONNA GET INVITED, RIGHT? SO WE WENT AHEAD AND, AND ADDED TO THE CONTRACT 15,000 TO COVER THE COST OF THAT APPLICATION, WHICH IS THE SECOND APPLICATION FOR THE SECOND ONE IN CASE.

'CAUSE IT'S GONNA BE VERY QUICK TURNAROUND.

NOW REMEMBER, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS A NOT TO EXCEED CONTRACT, IT'S AN HOURLY CONTRACT.

SO WE ARE ESSENTIALLY GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WHEN WE GET YOUR PERMISSION.

IF, IF YOU WANTED TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION, WE'LL WORK ON IT.

OTHERWISE WE HOLD.

SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S COMPLETELY IN YOUR CONTROL, RIGHT? HOW YOU WANT TO DO THIS.

'CAUSE FOR THE FM PS FOR THE PROJECTS, YOU'LL HAVE TO CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, WHICH ONES DO YOU WANNA SUBMIT, RIGHT? AND IF YOU WANNA SUBMIT JUST ONE, THEN WE'LL JUST DO ONE AND, AND THAT'S ALL, THAT'S ALL IT IS.

WELL, AND ALSO I GUESS, I MEAN WE CAN SEE THE APPLICATION FEE, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY RIGHT? AND YOU CAN GET REIMBURSED, SAY ONE'S $20,000.

BUT I MEAN THE, THE, THE BIGGEST THING IS WHAT WE'VE GOTTA DECIDE, AND EVERYBODY HAS THEIR PROJECT RIGHT? THERE IS WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN AFFORD IT AND DO IT IN THE FUTURE.

BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE, WELL IT'S NOT GONNA BE ANYBODY.

IT'S GONNA BE A LOAN.

SO, I MEAN YEAH.

AND THAT'S TO BE DETERMINED UPON ON PROJECT.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHY IT'S ALL CUT EVERYBODY OUT WITHOUT EVERYBODY'S LOOKING AT THE SAME THING.

WE'RE LOOKING AT EVERYBODY'S GOING TO DO THE APPLICATION.

SO THE PEOPLE THAT'S GONNA BE REALLY DOING IT IS THE GIANT PEOPLE LIKE DALLAS AND HARRIS AND PEOPLE THAT THEY KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO SPEND, THEY'VE GOT A BILLION DOLLAR BUDGETS ALREADY.

SO, WELL, IT'S LIKE WITH ME, I MEAN I GOT PLANTATION RIDGE AND KING STREET ARE BOTH ON THERE.

, THEY'RE BOTH PROBLEMS, RIGHT? KING STREET'S 5% GRANT MONEY AND OTHERS 35%, WHICH IS A LOWER VALUE.

I MEAN IT'S LIKE $3 MILLION.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD PROBABLY SWING WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS TO TRY TO MAKE HAPPEN THERE ON KINGS TREE.

BUT MAN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A BIG COMMITMENT FOR PLANTATION RIDGE.

IT'S HUGE.

IT'S $8 MILLION BECAUSE I THINK THE ORIGINAL COMPANY, EVEN IF YOU BORROW THAT ZERO OVER 30 YEARS, THAT'S GONNA IMPACT OUR BUDGET.

SURE.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IS IT GENERAL FUNDS OR IS IT ROAD AND BRIDGE FUNDS? ROAD AND BRIDGE.

ROAD AND BRIDGE.

SO IF IT'S ROAD AND BRIDGE FUNDS, I MEAN, YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING THAT YEAR FOR 30 YEARS.

NO, NO.

SO I MEAN, IT, IT IS, YOU KNOW, THE KINGS TREE MIGHT BE IF WE GOT OTHER GRANTS TO GO WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, AND BECAUSE IT FLOODS OUT THERE PRETTY BAD.

BUT THAT'S THE BIG DEAL HAS BEEN IF WE CAN MOVE FORWARD, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH YOU DOING ALL THIS STUFF.

BUT CAN WE REALLY AFFORD TO DO THIS AT THE END? I SAID YEAH.

BOTTOM LINE IS, WELL OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T DO 'EM ALL.

I MEAN THAT'S NO, NO WAY.

AND MAYBE THE FIRST TWO WE MIGHT, BUT THEN WE NEED TO PUT THE PENCIL TO IT, SEE WHAT THE BOTTOM DOLLAR IS.

WE CAN TURN THESE REALLY QUICKLY IF WE HAVE TO AND WE CAN PUT 'EM TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, BY THE DEADLINE.

EVEN IN ZERO INTEREST.

SO I, I REALLY WISH WE'D HAD MORE TIME TO HAVE, BE BRIEFED ON THIS SO WE COULD ACTUALLY DISCUSS IT AND LOOK AT THE FINANCIALS AND STUFF.

WHEN'S THE FIRST MIDDLE DATE? UM, IT'S APRIL 15TH.

HAVE YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME?

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IF YOU NEED TO DISCUSS, WE HAVE, I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE DATA STUFF.

YOU'RE REALLY JUST FILLING OUT APPLICATIONS REALLY.

RIGHT? IT'S, IT'S FILLING OUT MOST OF THE APPLICATION WE GOT, UM, WE DID SOME CALCULATIONS THIS MORNING.

THEY REQUEST SOME SUPPORTING DATA, UM, SOME MAPS, SOME DIGITAL DATA.

SO WE CAN PUT ALL THAT STUFF TOGETHER.

UM, AND IF, IF YOU NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT MORE, I UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY.

'CAUSE THESE ARE BIG DECISIONS AND, AND WE CAN MOVE QUICKLY ONCE YOU MAKE YOUR DETERMINATION.

WELL WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS MORE TO SEE WHAT THE FINANCIAL IMPACT'S GONNA BE LONG TERM ON US.

WELL WE, I MEAN TO BE HONEST, WE COULD, WE COULD PROBABLY AFFORD THE FIRST COMMITTAL NO MATTER WHAT WE DID $5,000 JUST TO EXTREME THE PROCESS OUT.

WE COULD, YEAH.

THE, THE FIRST STEP IS JUST LIKE I SAID, PUTTING YOUR NAME IN THE HAT.

WE DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GONNA BE INVITED, BUT IF YOU GET INVITED FOR ALL SIX, THEN YOU SAY, OKAY, NOW YOU, WE CAN'T DO ALL SIX, THEN YOU'VE GOT REALTOR DISCRETION.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING AT THAT POINT THAT WE CAN DEFINITELY AFFORD THE FIRST, WE CAN DO THE PART JUST TALKING ABOUT ON THE LOAN.

NO, JUST, JUST TO KEEP, KEEP THE PROCESS.

WE JUST APPLY TO SEE IF WE GET AN INVITATION.

IT'S LIKE PAYING $5,000 FOR RAFFLE.

SEE IF WE GET SOMEBODY EXPENSIVE, THE FIRST, THE FIRST ONES THEY PUT IN, YOU PUT YOUR APPLICATION IN FOR THE POT TO SEE IF YOU DO GET SELECTED TO GO TO THE SECOND LEVEL.

BUT YOU, YOU CAN DECIDE INITIALLY.

I'M JUST GONNA PUT MY NAME ON TWO OF THEM.

YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING TO YOU.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT AND GET BACK WITH HIM AND SAY, HEY, WE'RE GONNA DO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO.

TWO, WE JUST HAVE TO WORKSHOP IT AND THEN HAVE A AUDIT THERE.

SAY, HOW WE GONNA PAY FOR THIS? BECAUSE THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE.

HOW ARE WE GONNA PAY FOR IT? WELL, YEAH.

ESPECIALLY OUTTA ROAD AND BRIDGE FUNDS, YOU KNOW.

WELL EVEN NOW THE GENERAL FUND, IT'S STILL YEAH.

ESPECIALLY ROAD AND BRIDGE.

BECAUSE I MEAN WE, WE RUN ON A 10 LINE OVER THERE SO WE WON'T EVEN HAVE A LINE IF WE YEAH.

SO, OKAY.

LET US WORKSHOP THIS AND WE'LL GET BACK WITH YOU.

YES SIR.

AND SO, UH, I AND ANYONE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE ON? I'M STUNNED.

NO.

IS IT THE WEIGHT? SO I THINK WE NEED TO TABLE THIS UNTIL WE CAN WORKSHOP IT.

WELL THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

IT'S MY PLEASURE FOR COMING.

OKAY, SO I NEED A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION AND WE CAN UH, PICK A DATE WHERE WE CAN WORKSHOP THIS.

SECOND.

THE, UM, MOTION, THE SECOND, THE DATE ON THE FIRST.

AND JUST TO PUT YOU ALL IN FAVOR, SAY A AYE AYE IS WHAT? SAY THAT AGAIN.

THE FIRST OF THE FIRST DATE, THE, PUT THE NAME IN THE HAT.

APRIL.

APRIL 15TH.

THAT ONE, THAT ONE REALLY DOESN'T COST US, RIGHT? OR IS THAT 5,000? THAT'S 5,000, THAT'S RIGHT.

YEAH, FOR THE, WHAT THEY CALL THE, I MEAN I THINK WE HAVE TO DECIDE, I THINK WE HAVE TO EITHER MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT RIGHT NOW OR DON'T NO, HE SAID THEY COULD DO IT QUICK.

UM, I MEAN APRIL FIFTEEN'S COMING UP THOUGH.

IT'S ONLY TWO WEEKS.

LEMME DO THIS NEXT WEEK.

IF YOU GIMME FIVE DAYS, I CAN, I CAN GET OKAY.

YOU'LL HAVE THAT'S WHAT I WAS MAKING SURE OF.

'CAUSE I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTOOD THIS.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S TWO WEEK, 2, 2, 3 WEEKS, PLEASE.

NUMBER

[10. Garrett Moore: Discuss/Approve Open Infra installation of Fiber Optic Lines on Country Lane, Timber Creek Circle, Red Oak Drive, CR 139, and CR 278 in Precinct 1.]

10, MR. GARRETT.

DISCUSS AND APPROVE OPEN INFRA INSTALLATION OF FIBER OPTIC LINES ON COUNTY ON COUNTRY LANE TIMBER CREEK.

UH, CIRCLE.

DID WE HAVE A, A MOTION ON THE UM, YES.

ITEM SET? OKAY, SO WE'RE GOOD ON, ON THE CONTRACT EXTENSION.

WE'RE GOOD.

JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I HAD MY NOTES ON THAT.

UH, SO YES, WAIT A MINUTE.

IT'S ANOTHER SET OF, OH NO, YOU JUST SAID IT ALL WRONG.

ON THE EXTENSION, WHICH WAS NUMBER EIGHT.

NUMBER NINE.

NUMBER NINE, MOTION TO EXTEND THIS AND COME BACK IN TWO WEEKS.

AND LET HIM KNOW THE ANSWER.

BUT WE'RE GONNA WORKSHOP IT NEXT WEEK.

SO THE CONTRACT EXTENSION, JUST TO BE CLEAR ON THAT ONE, THAT'S NOT FOR THE, THE SUBMITTAL OF EVERYTHING.

THIS IS FOR OH, HE IS GONNA DO PROCESS WE WITHIN FIVE DAYS AFTER WE DO THIS, AFTER WE DO THIS, BUT, BUT SUBMITTAL HAS TO BE DONE BY APRIL 15TH.

WHICH WE NEED TO HAVE BY APRIL THE NINTH OR 10TH TO GIVE HIM THE FIVE DAYS.

SO IT GIVES US NEXT WEEK TO DO SOMETHING.

YOU GOTTA DO IT NEXT WEEK.

EVERYBODY.

YOU HAVE TO DECIDE, YOU KNOW, YOUR PROJECTS, EVERYBODY'S GONNA HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO THIS PROJECT.

AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I'D HAD ON THE THING WOULD'VE BEEN WE KEEP THE SAND ROAD AND BRIDGE, BUT IF IT'S ACTUAL FLOOD AREA, IT MIGHT, IT MIGHT BE AN ACTUAL GENERAL FUND DEBT.

IT MIGHT NOT BE.

WE COULD, IF YOU DID ROAD AND BRANCH, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ANY MONEY TO WORK WITH.

NO, YOU CAN'T DO IT ON THE ROAD.

IT'S GOING UP.

OUR PERCENTAGE

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ON THE TAX.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IF WE DO STILL COMING FROM GENERAL FUND, IT HAS TO.

I MEAN ANY, ANY WAY YOU LOOK AT IT, YOU LOWER ONE AND RAISE THE OTHER IS IS STILL, I MEAN, COMING OUT SQUEEZ BALLOON.

BUT I MEAN, BUT WE'RE GOING TO WORKSHOP IT NEXT WEEK AND THEN MAKE THE DECISION YES.

TO MOVE FORWARD.

THE OTHER ITEM THOUGH IS COMPLETELY SEPARATE FROM, FROM CONTINUING OF THE FIO.

SO THIS NUMBER NINE IS TO CONTINUE THE CONTRACT WITH THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD.

AND THEY GAVE THAT NUMBER.

THAT ONE IS, I NEED A MOTION ON THAT TO EXTEND IT.

MM YES.

MAKE A MOTION THAT ONE.

JUST FOR FINALIZING THE MADE PAYMENT.

PHILLIPS MADE THE MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND MR. MOORE.

MC SECOND.

AYE.

ALRIGHT, BACK TO OPEN BATTERY.

UM, LET'S STOP HERE.

STOPPED ON TIMBER CREEK CIRCLE.

RED OAK CIRCLE COUNTY ROAD 1 39 AND 2 78.

YES SIR.

HOW ARE THINGS GOING? THEY'RE GOING GOOD.

UM, I'VE BEEN TALKING WITH THE, UH, SUPERVISOR OUT THERE.

HIS NAME'S RAYMOND.

HE'S A REALLY GREAT GUY.

UM, WE'VE COME TO A PRETTY SOLID UNDERSTANDING OF HOW WE'RE GONNA KIND OF CONTINUE WITH THIS AND HE'S BEEN MORE THAN WILLING TO WORK WITH ME WITH THE HOMEOWNERS OUT THERE AND I'VE HEARD GOOD THINGS ABOUT HIM.

NO, NO ISSUES WITH NO ISSUES THAT I'VE HEARD SO FAR.

THAT'S GOOD.

AND I HAVE, WHEN I WENT ON MY INSPECTION LAST WEEK, YEAH, KNOCK ON WOOD , UH, WHEN I WENT ON MY INSPECTION LAST WEEK, IT WAS CLEAN, IT WAS ORGANIZED, EVERYONE WAS ON TASK.

THERE WASN'T ANYBODY, UH, LEAVING DIRT PILES JUST SITTING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DITCH.

ALL THE BOXES HAD BEEN RELOCATED TO THE VERY FAR OUTSIDE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY ONTO THE PEOPLE'S PROPERTY.

SO WE HAD A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT I EXPECT AND WHAT THE COUNTY EXPECTS.

WELL, OBVIOUSLY WE'VE GOT A DIFFERENT CREW, DIFFERENT LEADERSHIP.

AND DEFINITELY AN UNDERSTANDING.

NOW YES.

AND IT'S BEEN GOING VERY WELL.

UM, BUT JUST LIKE IT SAYS ON THE, UH, AGENDA ITEM, IT'S JUST THE NEXT FIVE, UH, PERMITS THAT WE'VE, UH, REVIEWED, PROCESSED.

ONCE AGAIN, THEIR PLANS ARE ALL SOLID.

ALL THE CALL OUTS THAT I WANNA SEE ARE THERE, AND I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH IT AS IT'S PRESENTED.

ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENT? NO.

AS LONG AS EVERYTHING'S BEEN GOING SMOOTH.

THAT'S, THAT WAS GONNA BE MY QUESTION.

I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE MOTION.

MR. HUNT MAKES A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

MR. PHILLIP MAKES A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

11, MS. AUDITOR, CONSIDER LINE ITEM AND BUDGET TRANSFERS OR CORRECTIONS.

NUMBER

[11. Auditor; Discuss/Consider line-item and budget transfers/corrections.]

THANK YOU EVERYBODY.

THANK YOU GARY.

UM, THESE WERE SENT OUT PRIOR TO COURT.

UM, MOST OF THESE ARE BUDGET AMENDMENTS FOR ADDITIONAL REVENUE THAT WE'VE RECEIVED, AND THEN SOME CLEANUP OF LINE ITEMS, UM, THAT WE NEEDED TO DO.

WE ASKED FOR YOUR APPROVAL.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO.

MR. TRUMP MAKES THE MOTION.

SECOND.

MR. MOORE MAKES SECOND.

AUDITOR CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT OR FINANCIAL INFORMATION.

[12. Auditor; Discuss/Consider claims for payment and/or Financial Information as provided by the County Auditor.]

SO THIS WEEK WE COME ASKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL FOR ACCOUNTS PAYABLE INVOICES, A TOTAL OF $1,313,078 AND 87 CENTS.

LOOK GOOD TO ME.

MOST OF THIS, UM, COMES FROM EMPLOYEE INSURANCE AND, UM, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.

ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? HAVE A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

MR. MOORE MAKES MOTION.

[13. Workshop: Discuss matters related to the Fire Code updates.]

NUMBER 13.

MR. FIRE MARSHAL, COME FORWARD, DISCUSS RELATED MATTERS TO THE PRIOR CODE UPDATES.

EVERYONE GET A COPY OF THAT? AMEN.

DID.

SO WE DID, UH, PAPER COPIES LAST WEEK AND THEN, UH, EMAIL COPIES AS WELL.

SO, UM, I'M GONNA RUN THROUGH JUST SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS SURE.

OF, UH, WHAT CHANGES ARE COMING, UH, IF THIS IS ADOPTED.

SO, UM, THERE WAS ONE THAT I, I THOUGHT OF THIS MORNING THAT I, I WANTED TO BRING TO YOU GUYS.

UM, IN THE FIRST CHAPTER, UM, IT, THE FIRE CODE REFERENCES THE BUILDING CODE AND, UH, INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL CODE.

I'M, I'M THINKING ABOUT ALSO ADDING THE WILDLAND URBAN INTERFACE CODE, UM, WHICH WOULD ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES LIKE WE SAW LAST YEAR IN B SPRINGS, UM, WHERE THEY HAD A WILDFIRE START OFF A 20, IT WENT RIGHT UP TO THE BACK OF A NEIGHBORHOOD.

THERE WAS NO SEPARATION BETWEEN THE WILDFIRE AREA AND THE HOMES.

AND THEY BURNED, UH, 26 HOMES IN A NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO, UM, IF WE DECIDE TO INCLUDE THAT IN FIRE CODE, THAT GIVES US PERMISSION TO GO OUT AND DO AN INSPECTION, TALK TO AN HOA, TRY TO GET COMPLIANCE OF, MAKE A DEFENSIBLE SPACE BETWEEN THE WILDLAND AREA AND THE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, SO BEING RESPONSIBLE OF THE, OF THE HOMES THAT MAKE THIS SPACE, CORRECT.

IT'S AN AREA THAT'S NOT GONNA IMPACT HOMES, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA LET IT BURN.

UM, AND SO ESSENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, IF

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UH, BUT IF IT DOES START TO HAVE SOME IMPACT ON SOCIETY, START BURNING DOWN HOMES AND BUSINESSES, UH, GIVES US A LITTLE BIT OF SPACE TO, TO STOP.

WELL, THEY EVER MAKE A DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY WERE DETERMINED THAT, 'CAUSE I I HEARD KIND OF, IT, IT, IT KIND OF PERSISTED A LOT BECAUSE OF THE WOOD FENCES THAT THEY HAD AND THE WOOD FENCES CAUGHT THE FIRE AND MOVED IT TO THE HOUSE.

AND IN THE BACK OF THE HOUSE IS WOOD TOO.

AND, AND OF COURSE NOBODY GOES, IF YOU GOT A WILDLIFE THING BEHIND YOU, PEOPLE DON'T GO OUT THERE AND DO ANYTHING.

THEY'RE NOT .

AND I DON'T KNOW, MY QUESTION WOULD BE, EVEN IF YOU PUT THAT, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO KEEP UP WITH THE INSPECTION IT'D BE LIKE CALIFORNIA.

I MEAN, IT'S IT, WELL, HOW YOU, HOW YOU DOWN DOWN A OF IS A GREEN SPACE, RIGHT? IT'S LOW VEGETATION AND NOT AS DENSE.

SO IT WOULD BE KIND OF A DECORATIVE TYPE SPACE THAT WOULD HAVE WHAT WOULD BE COVERED.

BUT IT WOULD BE, ARE YOU GONNA ENFORCE IT? YEAH, NO, I'M JUST SAYING YEAH.

ONCE THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S ESTABLISHED AND THE WOOD FENCES THERE AND ALL THIS, WHO'S GOING TO CONSTANTLY GO BEHIND ALL THESE HOUSES AND TRY TO CHECK THE SPACE WITH THE DRONE? YEAH.

WELL, I MEAN, I'M JUST SAYING, WELL, HO WOULD, BUT STILL HO A WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.

H OA WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE.

AND, AND IF THEY HAVE ONE, WELL, IF THEY HAVE ONE, CORRECT.

AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WORKING ON PUTTING TOGETHER A COMMUNITY WILDFIRE PROTECTION PLAN THAT WE LOOK AT THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.

I'M JUST ASKING.

AND UH, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR MAJOR WILDFIRE SEASON COMES AROUND ABOUT JUNE, END OF MAY, JUNE EVERY YEAR.

AND SO WE WOULD PUT THAT ON OUR LIST THAT EVERY YEAR DURING THIS TIME, THIS JUST GOES ON OUR INSPECTION LIST TO GO OUT TO THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.

LET'S SEE WHAT THE STATUS IS OF THOSE DEFENSIBLE SPACES.

UM, AND THEN TALK TO THE HOA TO MAINTAIN THOSE.

UM, BUT IT WOULD'VE TO GO ON OUR INSPECTIONS LIST.

I MEAN, QUESTION TWO.

WELL, THIS FIRE STARTED, THIS FIRE AS FAR AS HEALTH AND SAFETY TODAY, THEY'RE PUTTING HOUSES FOUR OR FIVE FEET APART.

, WHICH TO ME IS A HEALTH SAFETY ISSUE.

IT IS, UH, THE, THE WILDLAND URBAN INTERFACE CODE DOES HAVE SOME INFORMATION IN THERE ABOUT SPACING BETWEEN STRUCTURES.

AND SO, UH, IS THERE SOMETHING THERE, IS THERE HOW MANY FEET THERE SHOULD BE? OR MINIMUM, OR, THEY'RE RANGING FROM 30 TO 50 FEET BETWEEN STRUCTURES.

UM, 30 FEET IS IF YOU'VE GOT DEFENSIBLE SPACES.

UM, BUT IF IT'S, THERE'S NO FIRE SUPPRESSION IN THE AREA.

IF THERE'S NO, UM, DEFENSIBLE SPACES, THEY'RE WANTING 50 FEET BETWEEN STRUCTURES.

HOW'S THAT GOING TO DO WITH OUR S RIGS? RIGHT.

IT'S NOT GONNA WORK.

THAT'S GONNA IMPACT.

SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A SEVEN AND A HALF FOOT IN BETWEEN FOR DRAINAGE.

SEVEN AND A HALF FOOT.

YOU'RE TALKING, THAT'S GONNA AFFECT A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT DENSITY, WHAT THEY CAN DO.

50 FEET, FEET IS A LOT.

IT'S A LOT.

UH, AND OF COURSE WE, WE HAVE THE POWER TO AMEND THAT TO, UH, WHATEVER DISTANCE WE FEEL IS NECESSARY.

SO WHEN IT COMES TO OUR REGS THOUGH, UH, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO IN AND CHANGE THAT TO MORE THAN SEVEN AND A HALF FEET.

SO YOU HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT WE WANT IT TO BE FOR THE FIRE CODE FOR OKAY.

SO WE A TO BE ESTABLISHED.

SO, SO THE HOA WOULD BE THERE, BUT THEN THEY'D ALSO HAVE TO HAVE FIRE HYDRANTS.

CORRECT? CORRECT.

UH, YES.

SO THE, THE WILDLAND URBAN INTERFACE CODE REQUIRES US TO IDENTIFY THOSE AREAS THAT ARE WILDFIRE RISK.

SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD OUT THERE.

IT'S JUST GONNA BE THOSE AREAS THAT ARE AT THE WORST RISK FOR THAT.

AND IN THOSE AREAS, WE WOULD WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE HYDRANTS OR AT LEAST A TANK THAT WE CAN TAP INTO AND HAVE, UH, SUPPRESSION OPTIONS.

JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR FOR THE PUBLIC AND STUFF TOO.

SURE.

I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPMENTS CORRECT.

SUB, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

WE'VE GOT THE COUNTY ONES THAT WE PLANT AND WE TAKE CARE OF.

OUR DEVELOPMENTS AND SUBDIVISIONS.

AND THEN YOU HAVE THESE MUNICIPAL DISTRICTS THAT COME IN MM-HMM.

THAT WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER.

THAT THE TCEQ AND THE STATE KIND OF GIVES THEM THEIR OWN LITTLE WORLD THAT THEY CREATE.

SO HOW DOES THE FIRE CODE IMPACT THEIR LITTLE WORLD? UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

UH, , WE ACTUALLY JUST HAD A, UH, ONE OF THE MUDS TALK TO US AND WAS WONDERING IF IT'S POSSIBLE FOR THE MUD TO ENTER INTO AN ILA WITH THE FIRE MARSHAL'S, COUNTY FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE.

AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE TRYING TO WORK OUT RIGHT NOW, UH, TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WOULD BE THE REASON OF THAT.

UM, I THINK THEY'RE WANTING INSPECTIONS AND CODE ENFORCEMENT IN THE MUD.

UM, WHEREAS THE CITY THAT IS, UM, I GUESS IT'S OUR OVERLAP.

I'M NOT SURE HOW EXACTLY IT WORKS, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S NOT CURRENTLY ENFORCEMENT OR OKAY.

INSPECTIONS IN THAT LOCATION.

WELL, THE CITY, THE CITY HAS NO, YOU KNOW, VERY FEW MUDS ARE ACTUALLY IN THE CITY LIMITS.

SO THEY DON'T DO IT.

THEY DON'T DO ETJ, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY STAY AWAY FROM IT.

I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT CAME UP, BUT WE DID HAVE, WE DID GET THAT REQUEST.

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SO YEAH.

AND SO LET'S GO BACK TO THE DISTANCE BETWEEN HOUSES.

IN THE RURAL AREAS, WHETHER IT BE IT MUD OR NOT.

IN A DEVELOPMENT, WE WOULD'VE TO CHANGE OUR REGS TO SAY 10, 12 FEET, GIVE IT MORE SPACE.

BUT THEN YOU'VE GOT THE STREET ISSUE BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE WITH THE SMALL LOTS, EVERYONE HAS MORE THAN 2, 3, 4 CARS.

THEY'RE IN THE STREET.

FOR FIRE AND AMBULANCE.

THAT'S A SAFETY, BIG SAFETY YES.

HAZARD.

SO WHAT IS OUR STREET? I MEAN, SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL THIS, WHAT'S OUR STREET WIDTH RIGHT NOW? ISN'T IT 60 FOR WHAT? 60 FEET WIDE STREET? I MEAN 60 EASEMENT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? I'M TALKING ABOUT THE, I'M I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ROAD.

THE ROAD ITSELF ROAD ITSELF IS 20.

2020.

AND SO ONE OF THE CHANGES I WANTED TO MAKE WAS INCREASING THAT TO 24, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT, LIKE CITY OF FOUR AND A CITY OF TERRELL ARE DOING RIGHT NOW.

SO IF YOU GO, GO ANYWHERE STILL, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF, IF WE'RE DOING IT IN OUR DEVELOPMENT RULES, YOU HAVE TO HAVE ONE ACRE FOR YOUR SEPTIC SYSTEM.

SO ALL THIS IS REALLY MUTE.

I MEAN REALLY IT'S THE, WELL MAYBE DISTANCE MAYBE BECAUSE IF THEY HAVE THEIR OWN PACKAGE PLANT, THEN THEY DON'T NEED A ONE ACRE.

BUT IF THEY HAVE THEIR OWN PACKAGE PLANT, THEN THEIR JIM, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN WEST, THEY DISTRICT.

SO WE HAVE NO, WE HAVE NO CONTROL ABOUT THE SO YOU, YOUR ETJ AGREEMENTS DO SAY THAT OUTSIDE OF THE CITY THAT THEY HAVE PLANNING AUTHORITY.

IN THE ETJ, YOU ARE STILL THE AUTHORITY ON FIRE.

THE ONLY TIME IS IN THE CITY.

AND YOU'VE WORKED OUT SOME IOAS WITH SOME OF THE CITIES YES.

INSIDE OF THEIR CITY.

SO HE DOES HAVE SOME AUTHORITY AS LONG AS IT'S WRITTEN RIGHT? CORRECT.

IF WE HAVE AN ILE IN PLACE ALREADY.

FOR CITIES THAT HAVE PLANNING AUTHORITY, THEY STEAL OUTSIDE IN THE ETJ, HAVE TO GO THROUGH HIM.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE.

AND HONESTLY, YOUR CITIES, UNLESS THEY ANNEX, THEY'RE RUNNING OUTTA ROOM.

THEY'RE USING THE ETJ TO DEVELOP.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE AUTHORITY.

WELL, THEY PLANT THEIR ETJ.

WE DON'T PLANT THEIR ETJ.

NO, BUT THEY HAVE TO USE FIRE CODE.

BUT THAT, BUT THEY HAVE TO USE THE FIRE CODE IN THE ET OUR FIRE CODE IN THE ETJ.

SO IF WE HAD A STREET WIDTH CORRECT.

IN DISTANCE BETWEEN THE HOUSES.

THAT WOULD SOLVE SOME OF THE FIRE SAFETY AND HEALTH ISSUES.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO.

A SAP.

SO I HAVE AMENDMENTS THAT ARE BEING WORKED ON RIGHT NOW.

IF I GET WITH PAUL, WE CAN GO THROUGH, BUT YOU GUYS GOTTA AGREE ON YEAH.

WHAT THE FIRE CODE'S GONNA LOOK, LOOK LIKE.

SO THAT WE CAN PUT THAT LANGUAGE.

THE TROUBLE, THE TROUBLE WITH A 20 FOOT STREET IS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT NO ONE PARKS ON THE CURB.

SO , YOU, YOU CAN TAKE UP EIGHT AND EIGHT ON EACH SIDE EASY.

RIGHT? RIGHT.

AND YOU ONLY HAVE FOUR FEET LEFT IN THE MIDDLE.

I MEAN, IF YOU PARK TWO TRUCKS ACROSS FROM EACH OTHER, YOU KNOW, I MEAN YEAH.

AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IF WE BRING A LADDER TRUCK OUT, THERE'S NO ROOM TO PUT OUT RAIDERS.

YOU CAN'T GO THROUGH THAT.

SO THE STREETS NEED TO BE PROPER WIDTH.

EITHER THAT OR NO PARKING ON ONE SIDE.

AND I'VE SEEN SOME NEIGHBORHOODS DO THAT WHERE THEY PUT FIRE LANE SIGNS ALONG ONE SIDE.

THEY THEY DO THAT IN A LOT OF PLACES.

ENFORCEMENT IS THE TOUGH PART.

THEY, THEY HAVE TO, IF THE STREET IS, IF THE STREET IS NARROWER THAN THEN YOU CAN PUT TWO CARS OR TWO TRUCKS ON THE SIDE AND YOU CAN'T GO DOWN THROUGH THE MIDDLE, YOU STILL DON'T HAVE 10 FEET OR MORE IN THE MIDDLE, THEN YOU'RE IN TROUBLE AND YOU STILL MEET HEAD ON TRAFFIC AND STILL GET IN TROUBLE.

, I MEAN, BUT I MEAN, SO YOU NEED TO COME UP WITH ALL RESIDENTIAL STREETS DON'T BE FOUR LANE WIDE.

BUT, BUT WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU RECOMMENDING? 20, 24 FEET.

24.

IS THAT 24? YEAH, 24 GETS YOU OUT OF THE, OUT OF THE MIX IN A SENSE.

YOU KNOW, BECAUSE ALRIGHT, IF YOU PARK YOUR TRUCK ON THE STREET AND YOUR, YOUR TIRE'S NOT GONNA BE UP AGAINST THAT CURB.

AND YOU PARK ON THE OTHER SIDE, NOW YOU'RE GONNA STILL HAVE, YOU'RE STILL GONNA HAVE THERE EIGHT INCHES.

YOU'RE STILL GONNA HAVE OVER EIGHT FEET IN THE MIDDLE IF YOU DO 24.

THAT'S PRETTY NARROW STILL FOR FIRE TRUCK AMBULANCE TO GO DOWN EIGHT FEET.

WELL THEY'RE, THEY'RE 96 INCHES.

AND I THINK YOU'RE TRYING TO KEEP IT FIRETRUCK AND YOU'RE TRYING TO GO ALONG WITH THONY AND TERRELL'S PLAN AS WELL'S BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE CITY AREA ARE.

THAT'S WHAT THE CITY DOES ON THE RESIDE.

YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL STREET SHOULDN'T BE THAT CROWDED WITH ANY GOOD LUCK, YOU KNOW? YEAH.

BUT WHEN YOU START PUTTING HOUSES ON 30 FOOT LODGES, YOU GOT ISSUES.

HEY.

BUT EVEN IN THE COUNTY, CAN WE REQUIRE IN A REGS TO SPACING BETWEEN THEM THE STRUCTURES? YOU CAN, YES.

BECAUSE THE ONLY WAY THEY CAN GET THAT CLOSE IS TO ACTUAL HAVE THEN WE CAN WE THEN WE NEED TO DO THAT.

YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT.

I MEAN, THERE'S NO RULE OF SAYING YOU CAN'T DO THAT.

SO WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL, I'LL KIND OF GET A BRIEFING TOGETHER AS FAR AS HOW THE WILDLAND URBAN INTERFACE WOULD IMPACT THAT.

WHAT

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THE SPAC IT WOULD BE.

PUSH IT OUT TO Y'ALL SO Y'ALL CAN REVIEW THAT.

BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I DO.

IS MINE BEEN MY RATES.

THAT'S ALL I CAN DO.

YOU KNOW THAT AND I, BELIEVE ME, WHAT ELSE YOU GOT? I'VE BEEN DOING .

UM, OKAY.

SO WE ARE GONNA MAKE A CHANGE, UH, AS WELL TO THE OPEN BURNING, UH, PERMIT SECTION OF THE CODE JUST TO REFLECT THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE MADE ABOUT IT BEING INVOLUNTARY, UH, PARTICIPATION.

UM, AND IT CLARIFIES THAT, UH, JUST BECAUSE YOU HOLD THAT PERMIT OR JUST BECAUSE YOU HOLD THAT, THAT VOLUNTARY UM, UH, DEAL IT, YOU STILL HAVE TO FOLLOW STATE LAWS.

UM, RIGHT.

SO WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT'S IN THERE.

UH, I DID TALK TO THE SHERIFF ABOUT, UH, OUTDOOR ASSEMBLY EVENTS, UM, AND REDUCING THAT.

CURRENTLY THE FIRE CODE HAS IT AT A THOUSAND PEOPLE.

UM, WE WANNA REDUCE THAT TO 500 PEOPLE THAT WAY.

WHETHER IT'S A MASK GATHERING PERMIT THAT GOES TO THE COUNTY JUDGE'S OFFICE OR IF IT'S A, A MASS, OR SORRY, AN OUTDOOR ASSEMBLY EVENT THAT COMES THROUGH OUR OFFICE, 500 PEOPLE IS, UH, IS A LOT.

AND THAT'S THAT'S GONNA GIVE US A HEADS UP TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE.

IT, IT IS GOTTA BE SOMETHING.

'CAUSE WE'VE GOT SO MANY EVENTS, IT'S 500, 7 50, THEY KNOW THE RAIN.

SO WE'VE GOTTA GET IT SMALLER BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME THINGS WE HAD ON 2 79 WHEN THEY DID THAT LITTLE BIT DOWN THERE AND SHUT DOWN THE WHOLE ROAD FOR ABOUT TWO OR THREE HOURS BEFORE WE GOT IT CLEARED.

SO I THINK IT'S A LIFE SAFETY ISSUE WHEN WE'RE DEALING.

LET'S, LET'S MAKE IT TO 500 LIKE YOU ASKED.

I MEAN, CITY, HOW DOES THAT APPLY TO SOMEONE THAT HAS THEIR BIG BIRTHDAY PARTY OR WHATEVER? I'VE NEVER SEEN A BIRTHDAY PARTY WITH FIVE, 500 PEOPLE.

I'VE NEVER, IF YOU INVITE US TO YOURS, WE'LL ALL SHOW UP .

WE STILL WOULDN'T MAKE A HUNDRED PRETTY QUICK , BUT MAJORITY OF THIS IS, WHAT'S THIS STOPPING IS WE'VE GOT THESE RIDING GROUPS AND OTHER STUFF THAT'S COMING IN THE COUNTY AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT'S CAUSING THOSE PROBLEMS. OKAY.

THEY ALSO CREATE SEPTIC ISSUES 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT DESIGNED FOR THAT MANY PEOPLE ON THAT PROPERTY.

AND IT CREATES ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEMS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GONNA DO THAT TYPE OF THING, YOU GOTTA BRING IN PORTABLE TOILETS, YOU'VE GOTTA BRING IN YOUR SEPTIC.

IT'S NOT DESIGNED FOR THAT.

IF YOU'RE NOT USED TO HAVING THOSE, WELL, THERE'S 500 THE RIGHT AMOUNT.

WELL, I, I SAY SEPTIC, BUT I, I SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS STATUS FOR MORE.

I SAY WE TRY 500.

OKAY, LET'S EVALUATED AND THEN IF WE NEED TO CHANGE IT, WE COME BACK AND CHANGE IT.

GOOD DEAL.

LET'S, LET'S GIVE 'EM THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK.

BUT IS THERE, IS THERE, IS THERE OTHER COUNTIES THAT HAVE UH, LIKE STAGES OF, OF PROCESS OF NUMBER OF PEOPLE ON WHAT THEY QUALIFY? I MEAN, WHAT THEY, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? IF, IF THEY, IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO HAVE A BIG CONCERT HERE, YOU KNOW, GARTH BROOKS OR SOMEBODY CAME HERE TODAY, I NEED A CONCERT.

BUT THEY'D HAVE TO ACTUALLY PRODUCE SO MUCH STUFF.

FIRE ENGINES, AMBULANCES, SAME, SAME, YOU KNOW, PARKING LOTS.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I'M JUST SAYING.

AND DO ALL THE EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS AND ALL THAT.

THAT'S THE SAME THING CITY MAKES 'EM DO.

BUT THEY, THEY CAN DO IT WAY UNDER AND WHAT WE'RE HAVING TO DO.

BUT THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO TALK.

WELL THEY DO IT IN BIGGER NUMBERS THAN WE DO, BUT BUT THEY HAVE THE FACILITY FOR IT.

THEY HAVE A, THEY HAVE ARENAS, THEY HAVE PARKING LOTS, THEY HAVE TRAFFIC CONTROL, THEY HAVE THINGS.

SO YOU GO PUT SOMETHING ON A TWO LANE COUNTY ROAD THAT'S 16 FOOT WIDE AND YOU TRY TO PUT A THOUSAND PEOPLE ON IT LONG TIME YOU JUST SHUT DOWN ALL THE EMERGENCY VEHICLES, ALL THE CODES, ALL THE, YOU, YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T GET AN AMBULANCE TO SOMEBODY.

AND I KNOW ON THAT ONE POST OAK MAN, THEY TRIED TO GET AMBULANCES.

THEY COULDN'T EVEN GET AN AMBULANCE TO 'EM.

THEY COULDN'T EVEN GET AN AMBULANCE TO THE PEOPLE.

SO, I MEAN, AND THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A, A MASS GATHERING LOCATION THAT IS DESIGNED FOR THAT PURPOSE AT T STADIUM.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE DESIGNED FOR THAT THING.

A FOOTBALL EVENT OR A RIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE.

'CAUSE I DON'T WANT TO PUT SOMETHING IN THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN SOMEBODY'S GONNA BE IN VIOLATION OF, OR WE'RE GONNA GET, UM, TAX OVER SUED OVER THINGS OUT IN THE COUNTY.

THIS IS JUST OUT HERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF THE COUNTY THAT WHAT ABOUT, WOULD YOU UNINCORPORATED SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT AS LONG IT DON'T AFFECT SCHOOL DISTRICTS OR LIKE FOOTBALL GAMES? NO, BECAUSE THAT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT'S DESIGNED FOR THAT CAPACITY OF PEOPLE.

AND SO THAT'S NOT, WE'RE GONNA HIT THAT ON THE INSTRUCTION THOUGH, IF IT'S WRITTEN IN THERE AS A, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE'RE SAYING, OH, THAT WOULDN'T APPLY, BUT AS LONG AS IT'S WRITTEN WE WRITE.

SO THAT'S, I'M SAYING BECAUSE LIKE, LIKE NORTH FORNEY AND ALL, THEY'RE IN THE COUNTY, RIGHT? YEAH.

BUT THAT, I MEAN THAT, I MEAN THEY'RE GONNA HAVE MORE THAN 500 PEOPLE AT EVENT.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE EVENTS OUT THERE IN, IN THE WELL I GET, BUT IT, HOW DOES IT, BUT THAT'S WHAT HE, IT'S NOT DESIGNED FOR THAT IN THERE.

SO I MEAN IT'S GOTTA BE SPECIFIC IN THE RULES THE WAY IT STATES.

THAT'S WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT THOUGH.

AND THAT'S, SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING FOR DESIGN AREAS THAT'S ALREADY, YOU KNOW, AND THEY PUT AN EXEMPTION IN THAT.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING.

THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF WHAT I WAS SAYING.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

CAPACITY OR YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAID.

SO WE'LL ADD AN EXEMPTION THERE.

THAT EVENT VENUES DESIGNED FOR THAT

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WHETHER GAR BOOKS OR SOMEBODY WANTED TO COME HERE AND HAVE AN EVENT, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ESTABLISHED THAT THAT EVENT CENTER COULD HANDLE THAT MANY PEOPLE.

IT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH OUR MASS GATHERING.

THAT SOMEBODY DECIDES TO HAVE A, YOU KNOW, CAR SHOW IN THEIR BACK YARD.

THERE'S A LOT OF PARTY ON MY PROPERTY THINGS.

IN YOUR OWN, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING ON LARGE ACREAGE.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

OR JUST RENT A PASTURE TO HAVE A ON FACEBOOK INVITE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE AT, AND THAT MEANS WE CAN'T PASS IT BEFORE APRIL 8TH BECAUSE I'VE GOT A FEELING THERE'S GONNA BE SOME PASTURES WITH 500 PEOPLE IN THEM.

MORE THAN THAT PROBABLY.

WELL, WELL WE'RE, WE'RE SITTING HERE TALKING ABOUT IT AND WE OUT OF IT, BUT IT'S, RIGHT.

WELL THAT'S THE PAPER I GAVE YOU GUYS THE PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT, RIGHT.

SO THE, THE OTHER THING, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WE'VE RUN INTO WITH ISSUES WITH SCHOOL DISTRICTS IS THAT THEY'LL CLOSE OFF THEIR PARKING LOTS OR FIRE LANES FOR SPECIAL EVENTS, UH, DOING RUNS AROUND THE SCHOOL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

UH, SO WE WANTED TO CREATE A PERMIT THAT'S A TEMPORARY OBSTRUCTION OF FIRE APPARATUS ROADS BECAUSE WE'RE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE NEED TO ENFORCE THE FIRE LANE.

BUT, UH, WE'RE ALSO, YOU KNOW, GETTING CALLS FROM FIRE DEPARTMENTS COMPLAINING THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO GET TO A STUDENT WHO WAS HAVING A MEDICAL EMERGENCY.

UM, UH, BUT THEY ALSO NEED USE TO THAT, THAT AREA AS WELL.

SO, UH, WE WANTED TO COME UP WITH A PERMIT THAT LETS US BE NOTIFIED OF THEIR INTENTIONS.

WE CAN PUSH THAT ONTO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND MAKE SURE THERE'S A PLAN FOR ACCESS TO THOSE.

I AGREE WITH THAT.

THAT, YEAH.

IF IF IT'S THAT BIG OF AN EVENT, YOU CAN PUT A FIRETRUCK ON THE INSIDE OF IT BEFOREHAND.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

WE PLAN FOR IT.

I MEAN THAT'S WHAT I MEAN.

I MEAN THAT'S JUST WHAT YOU DO.

UM, WE'VE MOVED TO ALL DIGITAL SUBMITTALS, UH, INSTEAD OF PAPER COPIES, SO THAT'S GONNA BE UPDATED AS WELL.

UM, AS FAR AS VIOLATION PENALTIES UNDER THE CURRENT CODE, IT IS A CLASS B MISDEMEANOR, UH, WHICH IS AN ARRESTABLE OFFENSE, UH, FOR FIRE CODE VIOLATION.

WE WANNA REDUCE THAT TO A CLASS C MISDEMEANOR THAT'S A, A MAXIMUM PENALTY OF $500.

UH, WHICH GIVES MY DEPUTIES THE ABILITY TO GO OUT AND WRITE A CITATION AND MOVE ON, CONTINUE GOING OUT AND DOING INSPECTION, ARREST AND WRITE.

I GOTCHA.

AND, UH, SIMPLIFY THINGS A LITTLE BIT.

SO THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT CAN GO THROUGH JP COURT INSTEAD OF HAVING TO GO THROUGH COUNTY COURT OF LAW.

SO IT SHOULD SIMPLIFY THE PROCESS A LITTLE BIT.

UM, UH, BACK ON SCHOOL DISTRICTS, UH, WE HAD A REQUEST FROM ONE SCHOOL DISTRICT, UH, TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF, UH, FIRE DRILLS THAT THEY'RE HAVING.

STATE MANDATES ARE COMING OUT.

THERE ARE MORE AND MORE DRILLS THAT SCHOOLS ARE HAVING TO DO.

AND UH, SO WE WANT TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF FIRE DRILLS THAT ARE HAPPENING DURING THE COLD WEATHER MONTHS.

UM, THAT WAY WE'RE NOT PUTTING KIDS OUTSIDE IN THE FREEZING COLD.

UM, AND THEN THEY CAN FOCUS ON THE SHELTER IN PLACE DRILLS AND ALL THESE OTHER THINGS THAT THEY HAVE TO DO.

UM, WE STILL FEEL LIKE WE'RE MEETING THE REQUIREMENT.

WE HAVEN'T KILLED THE STUDENTS, UM, IN, IN FIRES IN SCHOOLS IN A LONG TIME, IN A WHILE.

UM, AND, AND UNFORTUNATELY WE THINK WE'RE SEEING THE TREND GO THE OTHER DIRECTION FOR ACTIVE SHOOTERS.

AND SO, UH, WE WANNA AFFORD TIME FOR DRILLS, UH, OF THAT SORT.

MAKES SENSE.

UM, ALL THE FIRE SUPPRESSION AND WATER SYSTEMS. RIGHT.

THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AND THEY'RE BUILT WHETHER OR NOT TO BARN REALLY.

UH, WE DO HAVE A CHANGE WE WANNA MAKE TO THE REQUIREMENT FOR FIRE LANES.

UM, IN THE 2024 FIRE CODE.

UH, THERE IS AN EXCEPTION TO THE FIRE LANE REQUIREMENT FOR, UH, SOLAR PHOTOVOLTAIC SOLAR FARMS ESSENTIALLY.

UM, WE WANT TO ADD OTHER UNOCCUPIED STRUCTURES COMMONLY ASSOCIATED WITH PUBLIC UTILITY SERVICES.

UM, AND THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD HIT OUR CELL TOWERS THAT WOULD, UM, TAKE CARE OF OTHER PROPERTIES WHERE YOU MIGHT HAVE A WORKER THERE EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, BUT IT'S NOT A REGULARLY OCCUPIED STRUCTURE.

IT'S REALLY NOT THAT MUCH OF A FIRE RISK.

UM, WE DO WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE ENOUGH TO GET AN AMBULANCE DOWN THERE FOR THE WORKER THAT HAS SOME TYPE OF MEDICAL EMERGENCY.

UM, AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT STILL REQUIRING A TURNAROUND, UH, AT DEAD ENDS.

UH, SO THAT AMBULANCE CAN GET TO THEM, TURN AROUND AND GET BACK OUT.

WELL I'D FEEL LIKE IT THAT MOST OF THOSE PLACES, IF FOR SOME REASON THEY CAN'T GET DOWN TO THAT PLACE THAT DAY, THEN THERE'S NOT REALLY GONNA BE A PERSON THERE ANYWAY.

SO I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT IT IS WHAT IT IS.

WELL WE HAD A SITUATION WITH AT T THAT PAUL AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT.

WE HAD CURRENTLY YOU GOTTA HAVE A ROAD THAT WITHSTAND 20 FOOT WIDE.

WE GOT THE COUNTY ROADS NOT EVEN 20 FOOT WIDE.

SO IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE AND THERE'S NOTHING IN THERE THAT'S GONNA BURN.

NO.

BUT YOU GET A FIRETRUCK DOWN JUST TO GET AMBULANCE DRIVEWAY.

YOU CAN HAVE HIGH ANGLE RESCUE IS GONNA BE YOUR BIG DEAL.

THAT THAT THAT'S NOT GONNA BE THE FIRE OF

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THE BURN.

IT'S GONNA BE A HIGH ANGLE RESCUE, SOME TYPE OF A MEDICAL EMERGENCY.

THAT'S GONNA BE IT.

AND HE'S AGREED TO, TO CHANGE THAT TO MAKE IT WORK.

IT DOESN'T COST HIM UH, AS MUCH FOR THE ROAD AS IT DOES THE TOWER.

SO YEAH.

ANYWAY.

UH, WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT INCREASING THE WIDTH OF THE FIRE, OF THE FIRE APPARATUS ACCESS OVER TO 24 FEET.

UM, FIRE TRUCKS ARE GETTING BIGGER, SO WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT INCREASING THE HEIGHT FROM 13 AND A HALF FEET TO 14 FEET.

UH, AND THEN INCREASING IT FROM 75,000 POUNDS TO 85,000 POUNDS, WHICH MAKES US CONSISTENT WITH THE CITIES IN OUR AREA AS WELL.

UM, FIRE LANE STRIPING HAS BEEN AN ISSUE, ESPECIALLY ON GRAVEL ROADS.

SO WE ARE ACCEPTING ANY TYPE OF ROAD THAT WILL MEET THE, THE QUALIFICATIONS.

SO, UM, OBVIOUSLY PAINTED STRIPES DON'T WORK WELL ON GRAVEL .

NO.

SO, UH, WE'RE GONNA ADD SOMETHING IN HERE FOR PARKING CURBS THAT CAN BE PAINTED RED WITH FIRE LANE NO PARKING AND JUST LINE YOUR FIRE LANE WITH THOSE.

UM, YEAH, THEY CAN STICK A GUARDRAIL UP IF THEY NEED TO.

AND PAINT IT THERE.

THERE'S OPTIONS THERE.

THAT, I MEAN, UM, ON FIRE WATCH PREVIOUSLY WE'VE UH, HAD A FIRE WATCH LIST OF, OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD UM, ESSENTIALLY BE PAID TO GO OUT AND DO FIRE WATCH WHEN A FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM IS OUTTA SERVICE.

TYPICALLY IT'S GONNA BE YOUR APARTMENT BUILDINGS, SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T WANNA KEEP PEOPLE OUTTA THEIR HOMES.

UH, BUT WE WANT 'EM TO, TO STAY THERE AND IT'S STILL TO BE, UH, A SAFE PLACE TO STAY.

UM, YEAH, WE HOMETOWN.

EE EXACTLY.

SO, UH, THE SOFTWARE WE GOT LAST YEAR GIVES US THE ABILITY TO HAVE THE PROPERTY OWNER DO THEIR OWN FIRE WATCH, UH, WHICH IS A HUGE COST SAVINGS FOR THEM.

UM, AND SO WE'LL GO IN THERE AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY LOGGING THEIR FIRE WATCH LIKE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO.

IF AT ANY TIME THEY STOP DOING FIRE WATCH LIKE THEY'VE BEEN REQUIRED, UH, THEN THIS WOULD REQUIRE THEM TO HIRE A PRIVATE SECURITY COMPANY TO COME IN AND DO THAT.

FIRE WATCH KIND OF TAKES US OUTTA THE EQUATION.

UM, AND I THINK STILL PROTECTS THE PEOPLE.

STILL PROTECTS THE PEOPLE.

UM, SELF SERVICE STORAGE FACILITIES, UM, I'M RECOMMENDING THAT WE REQUIRE AN AUTOMATIC SPRINKLER SYSTEM THROUGHOUT ALL SELF STORAGE FACILITIES.

UH, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT PEOPLE ARE STORING IN THESE THINGS.

UM, AND ESPECIALLY WHEN WE START HAVING INTERIOR CORRIDORS WHERE PEOPLE ARE INSIDE THE BUILDING, UH, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE, UH, PROTECTED.

IF SOMEBODY'S INSIDE, THEY KNOW THAT THERE IS A FIRE AND THEY NEED TO GET OUT.

ARE YOU PUTTING A SQUARE FOOTAGE ON THAT OR JUST THAT'S JUST A BLANKET, UH, SELF STORAGE'S FACILITIES THAT'S ALL OUTSIDE EXCESS ONES.

AND I MEAN TWO OR JUST INSIDE.

UM, THIS AMENDMENT WAS JUST ALL OF 'EM 'CAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S IN THERE.

UM, METAL BUILDING OUTSIDE DOORS.

NOW IS THIS SOMETHING LIKE TERRELL AND FORNEY'S DOING AS WELL? CORRECT.

WE'VE, WE'VE HAD ACTUALLY A, A, A CELL STORAGE FACILITY THAT WAS ANNEXED AND THAT BECAME AN ISSUE OF SOMETHING WE DIDN'T REQUIRE THAT THE CITY NOW REQUIRES AND THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DEAL WITH THAT SITUATION.

UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET ANNEX NOW.

I MIGHT.

GOOD POSSIBLE DRUG LABS.

WE DO RUN INTO THAT.

DRUG LABS, ALL MANY EXPLOSIVE LABS, ALL KINDS OF GOOD STUFF IN THESE THINGS.

DOESN'T MATTER TO ME.

I MEAN, IT SAYS, UM, COMMERCIAL BUSINESS AND THEY'RE RENTING IT, SO I MEAN THEY'RE ADD $5 TO THE RENT AND PAY FOR IT.

RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD.

UM, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT LAST WEEK ABOUT THE, UM, REPLACING THE DEVELOPMENT SUPPORT COMMITTEE WITH MEMBERS THAT WILL BE APPOINTED, APPOINTED BY COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

UM, THAT WAY IT'S NOT ALL COUNTY EMPLOYEES HAVING A SAY IN WHETHER OR NOT I'M CORRECT OR NOT.

UM, AND SO MY RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT WOULD BE HAVING TWO FIREFIGHTERS ON THAT BOARD, A, UH, FIRE PROTECTION ENGINEER, A BUSINESS OWNER, AND JUST A GENERAL MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT I COULD COME AND MAKE AN ARGUMENT.

THIS IS WHY I THINK SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE HERE AND THE OTHER PERSON CAN COME AND SAY, UH, WHY THEY THINK IT SHOULDN'T BE THERE.

SO, IMPARTIAL BOARD.

, WHERE ARE YOU GONNA GET YOUR FIRE PROTECTION ENGINEER THOUGH? UM, WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO LOOK OUTSIDE THE COUNTY.

UM, AND I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WE MIGHT CHANGE THAT TO JUST AN ENGINEER IN GENERAL, UM, WITH FIRE PROTECTION PREFERRED.

UM, BUT WE, YEAH, WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO LOOK OUTSIDE THE COUNTY FOR THAT.

SO WE DON'T WANT THOSE FALLING ON TOP OF FIREFIGHTERS, SO WE'RE GONNA MAKE A CHANGE THERE.

UH, WE DID RUN INTO AN ISSUE WITH, UM, ONE DEVELOPMENT, PUTTING THE BUILDINGS HERE, UH, ALL THEIR TRANSFORMERS FOR POWER OVER HERE IN THE FIRE LANE RUNNING BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS AND THE TRANSFORMERS.

AND SO WE HAD A BUNCH OF OVERHEAD SERVICE DROPS DANGLING OVER THE FIRE LANE, WHICH, UH, OBVIOUSLY IN FIRES THOSE THINGS DROP ALL THE TIME.

UM,

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UM, SOMETHING THAT WE HADN'T DEALT WITH BEFORE BUT CAME UP.

LADDER TRUCK MAY NOT LIKE IT EITHER.

YEAH, IT MIGHT, IT MIGHT GIVE 'EM A LITTLE SHOCK.

UH, THE ONLY OTHER THING I WANTED Y'ALL TO LOOK AT WAS THE, UH, BUILDING, UH, PERMIT FEE SCHEDULE.

WE HAVE UPDATED THE, UM, BUILDING VALUATION DATA TABLE TO MEET CURRENT MARKET VALUE FOR, UH, BUILDINGS.

UM, AND SO WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CURRENT, WE'RE USING THE MOST CURRENT VERSION OF THAT, UM, MOVING FORWARD, UM, WITH COS UH, CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY, UM, WE ARE ISSUING THOSE OUT AND THEY'RE UP FOR ANNUAL RENEWAL AND SO WE'LL CHARGE AN $85 FEE THAT COVERS THE COST OF OUR INSPECTOR TO DRIVE OUT TO THE SITE, DO THE INSPECTION FOR ABOUT AN HOUR AND GET BACK TO THE OFFICE.

UM, THAT WILL COVER A LOT OF OPERATIONAL PERMITS THAT BEFOREHAND HAD INDIVIDUAL FEES ASSIGNED.

AND SO YOU'LL SEE IN THE NEW FEE SCHEDULE THAT THE FEE IS INCLUDED IN YOUR CO RENEWAL.

UM, SO AS LONG AS WE'RE COMING OUT AND DOING THAT ANNUAL INSPECTION, THAT'S COVERED.

UM, OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

UM, ANY QUESTIONS? SO WHEN DO YOU WANT US TO FINALIZE THIS? SO, UH, IT'S CURRENTLY BEING REVIEWED BY LEGAL.

UM, BRIAN IS TAKING A LOOK AT IT AND, UM, ONCE HE UH, GIVES US HIS BLESSING, I'LL BRING IT TO Y'ALL FOR ADOPTION.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, YEAH, JUST GO BACK OVER THE, THE REALISTIC WATER SUPPLY ISSUES FOR DEPARTMENTS AND STUFF.

UM, SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UH, NUMBER ONE, BUILDINGS THAT ARE SUCH A SMALL SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT I HAVE ENOUGH WATER ON MY FIRE TRUCK TO PUT IT OUT, UM, THAT WE'RE NOT REQUIRING ADDITIONAL FIRE SUPPRESSION COULD OR FIRE, UH, WATER SUPPLY FOR THAT.

UM, AND SO WE WANNA DO A CALCULATION THAT IS, UM, ACCOUNTS FOR THE WATER THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS ARE BRINGING TO THE SITE.

UM, AND THEN, UH, IF ADDITIONAL WATER IS GONNA BE NEEDED TO PUT OUT A FIRE AT THAT STRUCTURE, THAT CAN BE A FIRE HYDRANT.

THAT CAN BE, WE JUST DID A DRY FIRE HYDRANT FOR SOMEONE THAT HAD A, UH, POND AND UH, THAT WAS A SUCCESSFUL DEAL.

UM, WE'VE, UM, ALSO LOOKED AT TANKS THAT THEY CAN PUT OUT ON THE SITE, UH, WHICH WOULD GIVE ENOUGH WATER FOR THE FIREFIGHTERS TO UP TO AND PUT OUT A FIRE.

SO THERE'S OPTIONS OUT THERE.

ANYTHING ELSE? AND THAT'S COMMERCIAL, RIGHT? CORRECT.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING.

HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER PHIBBS.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

MR. MOORE SECOND.