Apr 16, 2024 Commissioners Court

UH, JUST WANNA LET EVERYBODY REMIND EVERYBODY.

WE HAVE THE KAUFMAN HOMESTEAD DAY.

IT'S GONNA BE THE FIRST ONE.

UM, THEY'VE WORKED REAL HARD TO PUT THIS THING TOGETHER.

UH, THEY HAVE, UH, OH GOSH, PROBABLY 20, 25 VENDORS.

IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE GONNA HAVE OUT THERE FOOD TRUCKS AND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE GUEST SPEAKERS TO TALK ABOUT ALL KINDS OF STUFF, YOU KNOW, THAT FORMULATED LIKE, YOU KNOW HOW TO, HOW YOU TAKE CARE OF BEES OR MAKING HOMEMADE HEALTHCARE PRODUCTS.

AND, UM, THEY, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE THE AG EXEMPTION PEOPLE TALK, YOU KNOW, BUT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE JUST SPEAKERS ALL THROUGHOUT THE DAY ON A WHOLE LOT OF DIFFERENT TOPICS.

SO IT'S SATURDAY, APRIL 20TH FROM 9:00 AM TO 3:00 PM AND IT'S AT THE HISTORICAL POOR FARM AT THE, ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN, BEHIND THE OLD SOUTH CAMPUS.

SO, OKAY.

THEN, UH, THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO SHARE IS, UH, WE DO HAVE A, ANOTHER COUNTYWIDE CLEAN UP THIS, UH, SATURDAY IN PRECINCT FOUR.

IT'S THIS TIME IT'S GONNA BE IN SCURRY ACROSS FROM THE SLOAN SUPER SAVE AFTER OFF OF HIGHWAY 34.

UH, JUST A REMINDER FOR EVERYONE, UH, NO CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS, DUMP TRAILERS, OR NO ENCLOSED OR CATTLE TRAILERS, UH, THEY WILL BE TAKING TIRES AT THIS EVENT.

IT'S LIMITED TO 10 PER HOUSEHOLD OR, UH, SO, UH, THIS IS ONE OF THE TWO EVENTS THAT WE'LL TAKE THE TIRES.

UH, SO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.

IF YOU HAVE OLD TIRES.

NOW, I DON'T THINK THAT APPLIES TO LIKE TRACTOR TIRES AND CERTAIN LARGE TRUCK TIRES, SO YOU MAY WANNA JUST CAR TIRES.

JUST CAR TIRES, YEP.

JUST REGULAR, MAINLY VEHICLE TIRES.

SO, AND IF YOU DO ELECTRONICS OR COULD BE AN ADDITIONAL FEE, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, JUST ALL THE OTHER JUNK, YOU CAN GET RID OF IT THERE.

SO YEAH, IF YOU WANT YOUR TIRE TIRES DISCARDED, YOU MIGHT GET THERE FIRST.

YEAH, YEAH, BECAUSE THE TRAILER DOES FILL UP SOMETIMES.

AND THAT THE TIMEFRAME ON THAT WILL BE 8:00 AM TO 4:00 PM SIR, THIS IS COMING SATURDAY.

MM-HMM, .

AND, UH, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? NO, SIR.

ALRIGHT, WELL THAT'S GOOD.

UM, OUR JUDGE JAKE ALLEN IS, IS STILL OUT TODAY.

HE IS, UH, DOING A LITTLE RECOVERY FROM FROM AN ILLNESS AND HE'LL, HE'LL BE BACK SHORTLY.

BUT ANYWAY, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON

[2. CONSENT AGENDA]

TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

AND EVERYBODY'S LOOKING AT THE CONSENT AGENDA ON THE MEETING, ON THE MINUTES OR ANYTHING ELSE.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING TO CHANGE IN THE CONSENT AGENDA? NO, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

ALRIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER BARBER.

I HAVE A SECOND.

SECOND FROM MIKE HUNT.

SHANNON, BUT OUR, UH, CIVIL DA OVER HERE IS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF, UH, SPEAKING FOR HER.

THE NEXT ONE IS LYNN

[3. Lynn Fanion: Discuss/Consider/Approve the Interlocal Cooperation Contract Failure to Appear Program.]

KAREN, THANK YOU.

AND SHE'S GONNA GIVE THE REPORT.

THANK YOU.

YES, MA'AM.

THIS IS A CONTRACT FOR RENEWAL.

IT IS A FAILURE TO APPEAR PROGRAM.

THE JPS USE IT AND THE, UM, COLLECTIONS OFFICE USES IT.

AND IT'S BASICALLY WHERE IF

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YOU DON'T APPEAR OR DON'T PAY YOUR FINES, THAT YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO RENEW YOUR DRIVER'S LICENSE.

IT'S NO COST TO THE COUNTY.

THE COUNTY'S HAD IT AS A PROGRAM FOR YEARS, BUT THIS IS JUST A RENEWAL AND IT REALLY GREATLY HELPS IN GETTING OUR FEES, FEES OWED TO THE COUNTY, PAID TIMELY OR, OR PAID WHEN YOU WANNA RENEW YOUR DRIVER'S LICENSE.

AND SO WE WOULD ASK THE COURT, UM, TO APPROVE GOING AHEAD WITH THIS CONTRACT.

LIKE I SAID, IT'S NO COST TO THE COUNTY AND IT'S BASICALLY A RENEWAL.

IT'S BEEN IN PLACE FOR PROBABLY CLOSE TO 10 YEARS.

YEAH, I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING WAS, I THINK EVERYBODY CAUGHT THAT WAS NO COST TO US.

AND, AND I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE COMMISSIONER MOORE MAKE SOME MOTION.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER BARBARA SECONDS ALL THE PAPER PLEASE SAY, AYE.

[4. DA Erleigh Wiley: Discuss/Consider approving the proclamation to proclaim the week of April 21-27, 2024, as National Crime Victims' Rights Week.]

FOUR DA.

OUR ONE AND ONLY DA OR LEE WILEY.

GOOD MORNING IS GOOD MORNING.

SOME REPEAT.

DIDN'T WE DO THIS LAST WEEK? WE DID, BUT IT'S A BUT IT'S A DIFFERENT PROCLAMATION.

THIS PROCLAMATION IS ON THE NATIONAL CRIME VICTIMS, WHICH WE ARE ALL VERY CONCERNED ABOUT.

VERY GOOD.

AND, UH, SO YOU'RE GONNA, WE'D LIKE TO READ IT THIS WEEK INSTEAD OF ME.

NO, THIS HAS YOUR NAME ALL OVER.

IT IT, IT EVEN SAYS IN THE VERY BOTTOM, IN THE LAST DAY MONTH, IT'S GOING TO BE YOU.

COMMISSIONER HUNT SECONDS.

I APPRECIATE YOU COMING TO READ THIS PROCLAMATION FOR US.

WELL, I APPRECIATE YOU DOING THE PROCLAMATION.

WELL, WE ARE GLAD TO DO IT.

UM, IF IT PLEASES THE COURT, I'LL READ IT TO YOU.

IT'S NATIONAL CRIME VICTIMS RIGHTS WEEK, APRIL 21ST THROUGH 27TH.

SO WE'RE MAKING SURE WE GET THIS DONE BEFORE.

AND WHEREAS VICTIM RIGHTS ARE A CRITICAL COMPONENT OF OUR SYSTEM OF JUSTICE IN KAUFFMAN COUNTY.

AND WHEREAS KAUFFMAN COUNTY RECOGNIZES THAT WE MAKE OUR HOMES, NEIGHBORHOODS, COMMUNITIES SAFER BY SERVE AND STRONGER BY SERVING VICTIMS OF CRIME AND ENSURING JUSTICE FOR ALL.

WHEREAS THE TERM VICTIM IS MORE THAN JUST A LABEL AND HAS LEGAL STANDING AND PROTECTIONS THAT GO ALONG WITH IT.

WHEREAS CIVILIAN OF A CRIME CAN HAVE A MYRIAD OF LASTING EFFECTS ON VICTIMS, INCLUDING PHYSICAL, PSYCHOLOGICAL, SOCIAL, AND FINANCIAL ISSUES.

WHEREAS WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE COUNTLESS SURVIVORS THAT NEVER TELL ANYONE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM.

AND WHEREAS EACH OF US HAS A MORAL RESPONSIBILITY TO ACTIVELY PARTICIPATE IN THE HEALING OF OTHERS.

AND WHEREAS VICTIM SERVICE PROVIDERS, ADVOCATES, LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, ATTORNEYS, AND OTHER ALLY PROFESSIONALS CAN HELP SURVIVORS FIND THEIR JUSTICE BY ENFORCING THESE RIGHTS.

AND WHEREAS WE MUST DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO SHOW SURVIVORS THAT HOPE AND THE BELIEF THAT THE FUTURE WILL BE BETTER IS NOT JUST TANGIBLE, BUT WITHIN THEIR REACH.

AND WHEREAS NATIONAL CRIME VICTIMS RIGHT WEEK ENCOURAGES ALL PEOPLE TO ASK THEMSELVES THE QUESTION, HOW WOULD YOU HELP A VICTIM OF CRIME? AND WHEREAS KAUFFMAN COUNTY AND THE KAUFFMAN COUNTY CRIMINAL DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS HEREBY DEDICATED TO RAISING AWARENESS OF OPTIONS, SERVICES, AND HOPE FOR CRIME VICTIMS. AND NOW THEREFORE, I EARLY NORVILLE WILEY, THE CRIMINAL DISTRICT ATTORNEY OF KAUFFMAN COUNTY, TO MOVE THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF KAUFFMAN COUNTY TO DE TO DESIGNATE APRIL 21ST THROUGH 27TH OF 2024 AS NATIONAL CRIME VICTIMS' RIGHTS WEEK IN KAUFFMAN COUNTY, REAFFIRMING OUR COMMITMENT TO CREATING A VICTIM SERVICE IN CRIMINAL JUSTICE RESPONSE THAT ASSIST ALL VICTIMS OF CRIME DURING CRIME VICTIMS RIGHTS WEEK, AS WELL AS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

THAT'S SUBMITTED BY ME EARLY NORVILLE WILEY, CRIMINAL DISTRICT ATTORNEY.

AND WE'VE GOT A SIGNATURE FOR JUDGE ALLEN.

ANYTHING ELSE? ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENT? YES.

I'LL LEAVE THIS AND WE'LL GET IT SIGNED.

THANK YOU ALL THIS MORNING FOR HAVING ME.

THANK YOU FOR COMING.

YOU WANT ME TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT AND WE'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

COMMISSIONER MOORE MAKES A MOTION.

I SECOND.

I'LL BE, UH, UH, WELL, JAKE ALLEN, BUT OF COURSE I'M GONNA TAKE THAT ONE.

ALRIGHT, NEXT UP

[5. Judge Allen: Discuss/Consider/Approve Order Authorizing Memorial Day Firework Sales beginning on May 22, 2024, and ending at midnight on May 27th, 2024.]

OF COURSE.

THEY'LL APPROVE THE ORDER AUTHORIZING MEMORIAL DAY FIREWORKS SALES BEGINNING MAY 22ND THROUGH, UH, AND ENDING THROUGH 27TH OF 2024.

AND, UH, UH, WE'VE KIND OF HAD A, I'VE HAD A DISCUSSION WITH THE FIRE MARSHAL ALREADY AND HE'S, HE'S APPROVED WITH IT.

UM, I HAVEN'T DISCUSSED IT WITH ANYBODY ELSE, BUT DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY CONCERNS OR

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NO, I MEAN, I'VE ALWAYS NOT HAD A PROBLEM WITH THE MAY 'CAUSE USUALLY THIS IS THE WETTEST TIME OF THE YEAR AND THE OTHER TIMES IT'S DRIER.

SO AS A RETIRED FIREFIGHTER, THIS IS, IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE IT AS SAFE AS YOU CAN, THIS IS PROBABLY ABOUT THE SAFEST WAY YOU CAN MAKE IT JUST DURING THE WET SEASON IN THE SPRING.

SO, WELL, IT'S WET RIGHT NOW.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT A MONTH, BUT I MEAN IN ANOTHER FEW DAYS.

BUT IT'S WET NOW.

SO, UM, I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

LISTEN ALL THEN WE'RE DISCUSSING, THEN WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMM.

I'LL SECOND AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MOORE.

JACK SEBASTIAN IS UP FOR A, UH, PURCHASING A CONSIDER PURCHASING A CASE DB 45 E VIBRATOR ROLLER FOR PRECINCT ONE ROAD AND BRIDGE.

Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD DAY JACK.

SEVEN

[6. Jack Sebastian; Discuss/Consider purchasing a Case DV45E Vibratory Roller for Pct.l Road & Bridge utilizing Sourcewell Cooperative contract Number 032119.]

UTILIZING SOURCE.

WELL, COOPERATIVE CONTRACT NUMBER OH 3 2 1 1 9.

GOOD MORNING GENTLEMEN.

GOOD MORNING JACK.

UH, LOOKS LIKE PRECINCT ONE NEEDS TO BUY A ROLLER AND UH, THAT IS ON THE SOURCE.

WELL CONTRACT AND THAT THAT'S A VIABLE CONTRACT.

AND, AND I'D MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION.

THE TOTAL PRICE IS $68,250.

AND YOU SOUNDED KINDA EXCITED WHENEVER YOU READ THE MOTION, BUT, UH, , BECAUSE WE'RE NOT BARRING HIS ROLLER ANYMORE.

SO, WELL WE'RE GONNA START BARRING THAT'S A WIN-WIN.

WE'RE GONNA START BARRING HIS MINE, RIGHT? YEAH, BECAUSE IT IS NEW, WE'LL BE ABLE TO USE IT THERE.

GO.

HE'S WIRE OUT MOTION.

MIGHT TO GET A LEAF GOING ON THAT AS WELL.

I KNOW.

THAT'S RIGHT.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GO AHEAD AND APPROVE.

ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER HUNT.

SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER BARBER.

UP ONE MORE TIME FOR AWARDING A BID 24 DASH OH FIVE ANNUAL CONTRACT FOR THE ROAD MATERIAL AND HAULING FOR ALL PRECINCTS.

[7. Jack Sebastian: Discuss/Consider awarding Bid #24-05 Annual Contract for road material and hauling for all precincts.]

JIM, I'D LIKE TO START OFF ACKNOWLEDGING THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT.

IT WAS KIND, IT WAS A FULL EFFORT BY THE DEPARTMENT.

UH, MULTIPLE PHONE CALLS, MULTIPLE EMAILS.

UH, I THINK WE HAD A TOTAL OF 17 RESPONSES AND, UH, IT WAS KIND OF ALL HANDS ON DECK AND THE STAFF DID REALLY WELL TO GET THIS DONE.

AND, UH, WAS AN L PREPARED THE TABULATION THAT YOU GUYS HAVE, UH, PRETTY CLEAN BID.

UH, THERE'S THREE ITEMS I THINK I'D GO OVER.

AND THAT IS, WE HAD TWO UNDER THE SECTION OF, OF, UH, OTHER SERVICES YOU OFFER.

WE HAD, UH, ENVIROTECH, UH, SUBMITTED A DOCUMENT THAT THEY SELL ROAD STABILIZER AND DNM CONTRACTORS SUBMITTED A UH, UH, SHEET SHOWING THAT THEY HAVE, UH, SEAL COAT PEA, GRAVEL SEAL COAT SHIP, SHIPROCK.

AND SO SOMETHING YOU GUYS MIGHT WANT TO UTILIZE IF, IF YOU, IF YOU SEE THAT, IF YOU WANNA TRY THE PRODUCT, WE MAY LOOK INTO PUTTING A SPECIAL BID FOR THAT.

RIGHT.

UH, AND GREEN DREAM, UH, IT'S A VENDOR THAT BID, UH, THEY BID ON UH, ONE INCH ROCK, FLEX BASE, THREEQUARTER ROCK, THREE INCH CRUSHED CONCRETE, UH, MODIFIED ROCK AND PEA GRAVEL.

UH, THE ONLY ONLY ISSUE THERE WAS THEY DIDN'T PUT A PLANT PRICE.

IF Y'ALL GOT, IF Y'ALL NOTICED THAT THEY HAD A DELIVERED PRICE TO ALL PRECINCTS AND THE PLANT PRICE WAS THE SAME PRICE, SAME PRICE.

UH, WE COULDN'T CHANGE IT OBVIOUSLY.

UH, I CALLED, WE CALLED THE VENDOR.

UH, THEY'RE ON WALNUT HILL LANE.

SO IF YOU DECIDE TO UTILIZE THAT, I'M SURE YOU HAVE HAULERS THAT WILL PICK THAT MATERIAL UP.

WELL, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO GET A FARM PRICE ON DIFFERENT PRECINCTS FOR DELIVERY 'CAUSE THEY'RE DIFFERENT MILES FROM THE PLANT.

I THINK THEY, THEY ACTUALLY HAD THE SAME PRICE FOR ALL PRECINCTS, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.

THEY JUST DIDN'T HAVE A PLANT PRICE.

A PLANT PRICE.

YES SIR.

BUT NOW THEY HAVE A PLANT PRICE.

WE DO NOT HAVE A PLANT PRICE.

MM-HMM.

NOW WE MAY CAN NEGOTIATE THAT, BUT I FEEL LIKE YOU GUYS WILL PROBABLY END UP HAVING, UH, YOUR HAULERS PICK THAT MATERIAL UP ANYWAY.

MM-HMM.

SO I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT'LL BE AN ISSUE.

MM-HMM.

, THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF WHY WE PUT THE HAULERS IN THERE TOO.

BID.

RIGHT.

JUST IN CASE SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENS AS WELL.

SO, BUT NO, YOU GUYS DID A GREAT JOB.

I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK Y'ALL DID ON THAT.

SO YEAH, IT'S A PRETTY BIG BID PACKAGE.

A LOT OF PRICES.

A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE HOW MANY CONTRACTORS ARE ON THIS JOB.

HOW MANY DIFFERENT SOURCES OF I THINK THIS, I THINK THIS IS THE BIGGEST RESPONSE WE'VE EVER HAD.

TO MY KNOWLEDGE.

SO I'M REAL PLEASED WITH THE WAY IT CAME OUT AND, ALRIGHT.

I WOULD MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS CONTRACT? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

COMMISSIONER MOORE, MAKE A MOTION.

I HAVE A SECOND.

COMMISSIONER HUNT SECONDS.

COMMISSIONER BARBARA.

SECONDS IN FAVOR OF POLICE SAY AYE.

ALRIGHT, NOW WE'RE DOWN

[8. Auditor; Discuss/Consider line-item and budget transfers/corrections.]

TO THE AUDITOR.

HELLO.

GOOD MORNING.

HOW I SHOULD JUST SAY JUST AUDITOR'S OFFICE BECAUSE YOU NOT ALWAYS THE SAME PERSON SHOWS UP ,

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BUT THAT'S OKAY.

UM, SO THE LINE ITEM TRANSFERS AND BUDGET AMENDMENTS WERE SENT TO Y'ALL ALL LAST WEEK FOR REVIEW.

IF Y'ALL DO NOT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT I ASKED FOR Y'ALL'S APPROVAL, THEY WERE JUST ROUTINE BUDGET AMENDMENTS AND LINE ITEM TRANSFERS.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE LINE ITEM TRANSFERS OR ANYTHING? ALRIGHT, I MAKE A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

COMMISSIONER MOORE MAKES A MOTION.

HAVE A SECOND.

I SECOND.

TO THE AUDITOR OF OFFICE.

UH, BACK

[9. Auditor; Discuss/Consider claims for payment and/or Financial Information as provided by the County Auditor.]

ONE MORE TIME.

UH, FOR THE PAYING OF THE BILLS.

SO YOUR CLAIMS FOR PAYMENT WERE $976,068 AND 50 CENTS, UM, WITH A PAYROLL OF $1,935,680 AND 90 CENTS FOR A TOTAL PAYOUT OF $2,911,749 AND 40 CENTS.

IF YOU ALL DO NOT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, I ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER HUNT MAKES A MOTION.

I'LL SECOND WHO SECOND.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BARBARA SECOND.

IS, THIS IS GONNA BE DISCUSSED AND CONSIDER EXITING REGULAR MEETING AND ENTERING INTO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO, UH, 5 51 DASH OH SEVEN ONE OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE TO CONSULT WITH THE, TO COUNSEL.

MOTION CARRIES.

ALL RIGHT, THE NEXT ONE

[10. Judge Allen: Discuss/Consider exiting regular meeting and enter Executive Session pursuant to 551.071 of the Texas Government Code to consult with counsel regarding pending or contemplated litigation including, but not limited to: Winzer, et al v. Kaufman County, 3 :15-CV-1284, Nikka Trigg v . Kaufman County, 3:23-CV-01680-S, Victor Bates v. Kaufman County, 116800-489, and Votec Corporation.]

AND REGARDING PENDING AND CON CONTEMPORARY MITIGATION, I THINK IS WHAT IT SAYS.

I DON'T KNOW.

MINE'S AWFUL WEEK HERE.

I CAN'T SEE IT.

I GUESS I CAN SEE IT BETTER ON THERE, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO WINDSOR, EL AL VERSUS KAUFMAN AND THREE 15 CB 1284, NIKKI, TY AND VERSUS KAUFFMAN COUNTY AND OH 1 6 8 OH, VICTOR BATES VERSUS KAUFFMAN COUNTY AND 1 1 6 8 0 4 8 9 LOW-TECH, VTECH CORPORATION.

AND SO IN THAT CASE, UH, I NEED TO GET CONSIDER EXITING EXEC.

I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

COMMISSIONER BARBARA MAKES THAT MOTION.

HAVE A SECOND.

COMMISSIONER MOORE SECONDS.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY, AYE.

A A WE'RE ONLINE SO.

WE'LL,

[11. Judge Allen: Discuss/Consider exiting executive session and enter back into regular meeting.]

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO COME OUT THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.

HAVE A SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

AND HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MOORE.

AND, UH, THERE'S NO ACTIONS COMING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION, SO, UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING.

I'LL SECOND IT.

AND HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER.

WELL, I, THE COMING OUTTA EXECUTIVE WE DIDN'T I THE COMING OUTTA THE EXECUTIVE? YEAH, WE DID.

YEAH, I SAID OH, YOU DID.