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WHAT'D YOU SAY? I WAS CONGRATULATING HIM ON A NEW JOB.YOU GOT YOU MICROPHONE'S ON, BOYS.
[1. To discuss the FY24-25 budget with department heads.]
WELL, GOOD MORNING.WE'D LIKE TO BEGIN OUR WORKSHOP HERE.
WASN'T PLANNING ON TALKING THIS MORNING? TODAY'S MAY THE 30TH AT NINE O'CLOCK.
WE'RE HEARING, UH, BUDGET REQUEST TODAY.
NO DECISIONS TO BE MADE FINAL TILL LATER AS WE GET THE NUMBERS MORE DEFINITE.
AND WE HAVE OUR LOVELY DA HERE THIS MORNING.
I GOT COFFEE, SO I'D BE LOVELY.
MICHELLE, YOU KNOW, DOES A LOT OF THE WORK AND WE WORKED ON IT TOGETHER.
I WAS LIKE, WHY DON'T YOU COME SO THEY CAN, IF I MESS UP, WE'RE GOOD.
SO WE WERE JUST GOING THROUGH THE, OUR NUMBERS AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THINGS FROM LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR AND HISTORICALLY THAT WE DIDN'T USE AS MUCH OF, AND TO CHANGE SOME OF THE LINE ITEMS. OKAY.
I MEAN, I'M SURE Y'ALL JUST WANT THE BOTTOM LINE, RIGHT? YES.
SO YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT ALL THAT.
ONLY THE THING IS THAT WE'RE CHANGING EITHER THE REQUESTS FOR MORE OR WE REALLY LIKE IT WHEN IT'S, WE DON'T THIS ANYMORE.
THERE, THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE, THERE ARE, WE'RE GOING DOWN.
SO OUR BOTTOM LINE ACTUALLY DOES GO DOWN.
SOME OTHER LINES WENT UP A LITTLE, BUT THEN WE DECREASE SOME.
BUT THE BOTTOM LINE TOTAL IS AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE LESS MONEY TALK.
NO, I'LL TELL YOU, I'LL TELL YOU.
SHE'LL GET UP, TAP BACK THERE.
I JUST SAID THE BOTTOM LINE IS IT'S DOWN.
SO THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT THAT WINTER I HAD ALL, I MEAN WE WENT THROUGH ALL THE NUMBERS AND WE COULD TELL YOU ALL ABOUT 'EM, BUT Y'ALL DON'T WANNA HEAR.
BUT LET'S ALL I WANT TO KNOW IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE SECOND PAGE WHERE YOU GOT THE DETAILED REQUEST WHERE THERE'S INCREASES, DECREASES.
AND JUST HIGHLIGHT THOSE ITEMS THERE FOR US.
WELL THEN I'LL HAVE TO, FOR ME, BECAUSE I WORK, I WORKED ON 'EM.
I'M GONNA GIVE YOU THE LINE ITEM NUMBER ONE THING.
AND WE DID TALK TO THE AUDITOR ABOUT IT.
WE DIDN'T LIKE THE WAY ITEMS WERE CLUMPED TOGETHER.
AND SO THAT IS SOMETHING, BECAUSE IT'S EASIER FOR US IF WE BREAK IT OUT OF, AND SOME OF THAT WAS LIKE THE CAPITAL TRIAL EXPENDITURES.
BEFORE THAT WAS ALL IN ONE BIG LINE ITEM.
SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID SPEAK TO HER ABOUT IT.
SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE JUST KNOW THAT WE NEED TO GO DOWN ARE GONNA BE LOOK AT YOUR COMPUTER, WHICH IS GONNA BE, UH, OH, 60 THAT CAN GO DOWN.
GAS AND OIL, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT NEW CARS THAT LINE ITEM CAN GO DOWN.
WE JUST, WE JUST DON'T HAVE YOU THINK IT CAN GO DOWN? REALLY? YEAH, IT REALLY COULD.
WELL, AT THE SIXTH MONTH WE HAD ONLY USED 36%.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING, WE WENT TO ALL THE PERCENTAGES THAT WERE UNDER 50% AND THOSE WERE ALL THE ITEMS THAT WE SAID WE CAN GO DOWN ON.
UM, JUST DON'T CUT YOURSELF SHORT.
MAKE SURE YOU DON'T DO, IT'S SUPPOSED TO HAVE LIKE DOLLAR'S SUPPOSED TO WEAKEN LIKE ANOTHER TWO AND HALF PERCENT THIS YEAR.
SO THE DOLLAR'S SUPPOSED TO WEAKEN ANOTHER TWO AND HALF PERCENT SO EVERYTHING WILL GO UP.
THAT'S SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND.
WHAT ABOUT, DOESN'T IT, DOESN'T THAT MAKE REALLY DEPEND ON CASE LOAD ON ON THE, ON THE VEHICLES? YEAH.
DO YOUR INVESTIGATORS AND STUFF.
YEAH, IT CAN, I MEAN, I MEAN, I'M NOT ARGUING WITH Y'ALL ABOUT, UH, GIVING MONEY BACK.
I JUST, I'M, I'M WITH YOU THAT I DON'T WANNA COME BACK HERE AND HAVE A CRISIS AND CASELOAD.
AND WE HAVE, WE HAVE BEEN REALLY BUSY EVER SINCE COVID HAVE TRIED MORE STUFF.
BUT THE BIGGER VEHICLES AND THE NEWER VEHICLES HAVE HELPED WITH THAT.
AND THIS, THIS GET BETTER GAS MILEAGE.
AND THE OTHER THING THAT WE REALIZED TOO, AND, AND Y'ALL TELL ME HOW Y'ALL WANNA DO IT, WOULD YOU RATHER JUST HAVE THE MONEY THERE AND THEN WE KNOW WE'RE NOT GONNA USE IT BECAUSE THE, THE LEGISLATURE, THE LEGISLATURE MAKES OBVIOUSLY OVER TWO YEARS OVER BY ANY OF EM.
SO WE ARE KNOWING GOING INTO THIS THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE NEW BOOKS REALLY UNTIL 26.
I FEEL LIKE THEY'VE BEEN IN SESSION THE WHOLE TIME, BUT, SO WE'RE SAYING WE COULD GO DOWN ON THE BOOKS, BUT WE KNOW WE'LL NEED NEW BOOKS NEXT TIME.
OR DO Y'ALL RATHER JUST KEEP THE LINE OUT EVEN THOUGH THE MONEY WILL GO BACK EVERY OTHER YEAR? I THINK I'D RATHER GO AHEAD AND GO DOWN IF WE KNOW THANKS TO KNOW, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA CHANGE IT THEN.
SO WE HAVE TO TWEAK WITH OURS A LITTLE BIT MORE THEN.
'CAUSE WE'VE GOT DIFFERENT IDEAS.
SO WE'LL JUST LEAVE 'EM THE SAME, EVEN THOUGH I CAN ALMOST TELL YOU THAT THOSE MONIES WILL GO BACK.
UM, REALLY THERE IS ONE LINE, THE TRIAL PREPARATION AND GRAND JURY UHHUH
SO SOMETHING TO KNOW ABOUT THAT LINE.
SO WHEN WE HAVE A TRIAL AND WE HAVE WITNESSES OR VICTIMS FROM OUTTA STATE OR OUTSIDE THE COUNTY AND WE HAVE TO FLY THEM IN, GET A HOTEL OR WHATEVER, WE PAY FOR THAT UP FRONT, WHICH IS WHAT THIS LINE ITEM IS USED FOR.
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IT'S KIND OF A, WALLS ARE OURS ALL BE, BUT YOU HAVE, IT'S NOT A TOTAL WASH, BUT YOU HAVE TO BUDGET IT IN THERE, GET'EM HERE.BUT JUST SO THAT YOU KNOW THAT FULL AMOUNT'S NOT GONNA BE SPENT, BUT I'VE GOTTA HAVE IT TO YOU.
AND THE REASON WE SAY I WON'T BEEN DOWN UNTIL WE'RE DONE, UM, I'LL GET IT, IS IT'S, WE DON'T GET, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE HOTEL RATES ARE, THEY'RE ONLY GONNA REIMBURSE A CERTAIN AMOUNT.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAD A TRIAL, FOR EXAMPLE, DURING THE LUNAR OKAY.
WE HAD TO NEGOTIATE WITH TERRELL BECAUSE WAS IT START OUT WHERE THEY WERE GONNA CHARGE US 9 99 A NIGHT? NINE NINE.
I'M LIKE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA DO THAT? NO, BECAUSE I'M GONNA CALL THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND THAT'S, BUT THE COMPTROLLER WILL REIMBURSE US 1 0 7 A NIGHT PLUS TAX.
UM, NORMALLY I CAN GET ROOMS BETWEEN 1 20 98 OR SOMETHING, BUT SOMETIMES ONE 20.
WELL, SO, SO THAT'S JUST SO Y'ALL KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT FOR THE MOST PART WE'RE GOOD.
I MAY TWEAK THE GAS IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU, BEN.
THAT'S, THAT'S A'S A, THAT'S A NEW THING RIGHT HERE.
YEAH, I, WELL, I'M JUST SAYING BECAUSE WHEN YOU REALLY NEED SOMETHING, OKAY.
IF WE YOU DON'T SPEND IT, COME BACK IF IT, YEAH.
I DON'T WANT YOU TO CAUGHT IN A TRAP THERE.
I HAVE COME BACK AND ASK FOR MONEY LATER.
BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE, WE, WE GOT REALLY STAFFED UP.
UH, I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S GONNA GO.
YOU KNOW, HONESTLY, ANOTHER YEAR OR TWO, I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S GONNA GO.
WE, WE'VE GOT SO MANY CASES, SO MUCH WORK.
WE'VE GOT STAFF FOR THE FOUR 89TH.
UM, THEY DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT ALL, THEY DON'T HAVE ALL THEIR CASES GOING YET.
YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE A NEW COURT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A NEW JUDGE, UH, IN COUNTY COURT OF LAW, THEY'RE GONNA PROBABLY WANNA WORK HARD.
SO THAT'S, WE, WE HAVE TO SEE.
SO WE'RE JUST GONNA GO WITH THE STAFF WE HAVE AND NOT ANTICIPATE STAFF.
COUPLE THINGS I WANNA PUT ON THE HORIZON FOR YOU GUYS.
WE HAD A BIG TRIAL THAT WE DID LAST WEEK.
IT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST TRIALS THAT THE TASK FORCE ACTUALLY DID THE WORK ON.
IT WAS A HOMICIDE, IT WAS CAPTAIN MURDER, JURY FOUND GUILTY OF MURDER, GOT 60 YEARS.
SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS A BIG WIN.
THIS TASK FORCE THAT WE STARTED.
AND THAT ATTORNEY'S CASELOAD IS NOW NOT AS HIGH AS EVERYBODY ELSE'S, BUT HE'S GETTING THERE.
I, I HATE TO SAY, SO THAT TASK FORCE IS WORKING.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT Y'ALL KNOW ABOUT ALL THESE GRANTS AND MONIES IS IT'S GOING TO LAST FOR LIKE A TWO YEAR CYCLE.
SO THEY WERE THERE FOR OUR 24.
THEY'RE GONNA BE THERE FOR 25, BUT WE'RE GOOD NEXT YEAR.
THAT'S WHY I'M NOT ASKING THEM THE YEAR AFTER.
THAT WHOLE TEAM IS GONNA BE FUNDED.
SO IF Y'ALL WANT AN IDEA WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.
'CAUSE I THINK THE TASK FORCE IS HERE TO STAY.
I THINK WE NEED TO DO THAT FOR PLANNING.
I MEAN THAT'S OBVIOUS, BUT YOU THINK THE LEGISLATURE MIGHT NOT COME THROUGH AGAIN WITH SOME GRANT MONEY FOR THAT IF IT'S WORKING SO WELL, THIS ACTUALLY WAS SUPER INTERESTING BECAUSE THIS MONEY CAME THROUGH THE TAG.
AND YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT THAT IS.
IT'S THE ANTI GAME, WHICH IS NOT LEDGE MONEY, BUT IT IS IN THE SENSE THAT IT'S COMING THROUGH THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE, CYCLING DOWN THROUGH THE TAG.
IT WORKS WITH HAIDA, A FEDERAL PROGRAM AS WELL.
UM, I MET WITH THEM BEFORE I WAS GONNA MEET WITH YOU AND HIS ANSWERS, WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH YOU'RE GETTING, IF YOU REMEMBER THAT TAG MONEY.
YOU KNOW, IT REMINDS ME IT'S A LITTLE, I'M NOT, I KNOW, I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY IT'S FUNNY, BUT IT CAME OUT OF BORDER SECURITY MONEY.
SO THAT BORDER SECURITY MONEY WAS HUGE.
AND THEN THEY HAD ACTUALLY A SURPLUS OF LIKE, LIKE 130 MILLION AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET A LOT OF RESOURCES IF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WAS HERE THAT TELL YOU ABOUT ALL THE FLOCK CAMERAS WE'VE HAD THE, THE NEW, UH, LICENSE PLATE READER, LPR TRAILER.
SO WE'VE HAD LOTS OF REALLY ENHANCED LAW ENFORCEMENT.
BUT THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD HELP ME WITH AS A PROSECUTOR WAS THE ACTUAL TASK FORCE PERSONNEL.
'CAUSE THAT'S YOUR PERSONNEL IS YOUR BIGGEST THING.
SO YES, WE'LL ASK, WE'LL PROBABLY KNOW THIS SESSION IF THE MONEY IS GONNA GET DROPPED, BUT WE HAVE TO PLAN ON THE WORST 'CAUSE THESE PEOPLE ARE DOING GREAT JOB AND WELL 'CAUSE OF THE GROWTH.
THAT'S WHERE I WOULD REDIRECT THE EXPANSION OF MY OFFICE WOULD BE TO HAVE THAT PERSON.
AND FRANKLY, HE, BY THEN THEY MIGHT NEED ANOTHER PROSECUTOR TO WORK WITH HIM.
SO, AND I THINK WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THAT FIGURE'S GONNA LOOK LIKE IN A YEAR.
BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE A, IF WE HAVE TO BUS IT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BUDGET IT.
SO WE'LL LET YOU GUYS KNOW, EVEN WHEN WE GO BACK WITH THE NEXT BUDGETS, AND Y'ALL MIGHT WANNA ASK ME THAT I COULD TELL YOU WHAT THE PERSONNEL BUDGET WOULD LOOK LIKE.
'CAUSE WE ACTUALLY HAVE A BUDGET FOR IT.
SO, AND WE TRY TO KEEP THEM UP WITH, IF THE COUNTY DOES, UM, WHATEVER PERCENTAGES WE PROJECT.
AND, UM, FINALLY IF, UH, UM, WHEN JOHNNY WHITE COMES OVER TO DO HIS BUDGET.
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VEHICLE, I AM GONNA HELP HIM.SO JUST SO YOU'LL KNOW, I TOLD HIM I'M COMING FIRST SO I'LL PAVE FOR THE WAY YOU'RE GONNA PAY FOR THE WHOLE CAR.
I LIKE, I LIKE THAT I'M PLAYING FOR HALF PAY HALF.
SO I MADE A NOTE FOR MYSELF SO I COULD TELL Y'ALL SO HE COULD TELL YOU.
IT'S PRETRIAL DIVERSION AND HE NEEDS TO GO OUT IN THE FIELD AND DO SOME WORK WITH SOME OF THESE PEOPLE.
SO IS THAT ONE, IS THAT, IS THAT, IS THAT ACTUALLY GONNA BE A ONE OF THE LEASE VEHICLES? THEY'RE GOING ADD TO THE LEASE? BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS GOING BACK AND FORTH ABOUT, HE WAS TALKING ABOUT PURCHASING ONE AS OPPOSED TO LEASING.
I THOUGHT LEASING WAS A BETTER IDEA.
IT WAS THE PURCHASES, BUT HE SAID IT PURCHAS $28,000.
WELL, IT DEPENDS ON HOW MANY MILES.
IT WELL THAT'S WHY THEY'RE GONNA WEAR IT OUT.
IT'D BE BETTER TO PURCHASE A THING AT LEASE.
IT'D BE FLIP IT EVERY YEAR AND PAYING FOR IT.
I'LL, I'LL TELL YOU ANOTHER THING.
I I, THIS IS JUST ME THINKING, BUT I, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T ALWAYS PAN OUT.
BUT I KEEP WONDERING ABOUT ELECTRIC VEHICLES BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY COULD PROBABLY USE ELECTRIC VEHICLES IN OFFICE WORK BETTER THAN ANYBODY ELSE.
'CAUSE IF WE HAD CHARGING STATION HERE, YOU CHARGE 'EM ALL NIGHT, ALL WEEKEND, WHATEVER YOU USE, NEVER BUY GAS AND OIL AS LONG AS YOU'RE NOT ASKING MY PEOPLE.
THERE WAS, WELL, I MEAN THERE, THERE ARE A LOT OF GRANTS OUT IN, IN, IN ALL, A LOT OF THE CAR COMPANIES ARE INSTALLING THE ACTUAL THINGS FOR T IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING ISSUES WITH THE HYBRID VEHICLES YEAH.
WITH THE BATTERIES THAT RIGHT.
WHEN THEY DID GO BAD, IT WAS LIKE $7,000 TO REPLACE THE BATTERIES.
SO IT HAS ITS OWN SEPARATE EXPENSE WHEN IT GOES TO THE BATTERIES.
BUT THAT'S A THOUGHT WITH THE, I THINK JOHNNY'S LOOKING.
HE DOES HE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MILEAGE, I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT VER THE RUNNING AROUND.
HE'S HE'S DOING IT MIGHT, HE DOES NEED A VEHICLE.
HE, HE, HE PITCHED TO ME AND I SAID, YEAH, BECAUSE PRETRIAL DIVERSION IS DESIGNATED MONEY, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THAT MONEY YOU CAN ONLY DO CERTAIN THINGS WITH IT.
SO IT'S A GREAT THING FOR ME TO GIVE HALF.
I JUST HAVE TO KEEP THE OTHER FOR SALARIES AND INCENTIVES WE'VE GOT WITH OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING IN THAT PROGRAM.
BUT HE, I I WANNA ZERO THAT LINE OUT IF I CAN.
HE, HE'S KINDA LIKE MY GUYS, THE TRUCKS ONLY GET SO MANY MILES.
I MEAN THEN THE LEASE PROGRAMS FLIPPING THEM OVER TOO FAST TO, YOU KNOW, TO GET THE REAL CORRECT USE OUT OF 'EM FOR US.
SAY EVERY, EVERY THREE YEARS, ISN'T IT? MM-HMM.
WELL, IT'S PERFECT FOR THE INVESTIGATORS FOUR BECAUSE THEY, I MEAN, MORE ABOUT A WHILE.
IT'S NOT A, YOU KNOW, UNCOMMON POLICE, BUT THEY'RE DRIVING A LOT.
Y'ALL NEED ANYTHING ELSE FROM ME? WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING.
I WAS UNDER, I'M TRYING TO KEEP Y'ALL ON TIME.
LAST NOT LEAST, WE ARE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT AS OF YESTERDAY, DIRECTION WITH THAT COMPTROLLER MONEY.
I, I'M DEALING WITH THE AUDITOR AND THE TREASURER ON IT BECAUSE THAT WAS PROBABLY THE WORST ROLLOUT OF ANY MONEY I'VE EVER SEEN.
THE DIRECTIONS ARE NOT IN WRITING, THEY'RE GONNA START AUDITING MONEY.
AND SO I, UH, I I WAS NOT GOING TO AUSTIN YESTERDAY.
WELL, I THINK WHAT Y'ALL HAVE DONE WITH THAT MONEY IS YOU CAN PROVE WHERE IT IS.
I DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS ON IT YET.
THANK YOU MR. CONSTABLE WOODALL.
HEY, I GAVE YOU FIVE MINUTES TOO.
IS IT, UH, LET ME MAKE A NOTE HERE RIGHT QUICK ON WHAT SHE SAID.
WAS IT IN YESTERDAY'S STUFF THOUGH? FOR THE CONSTABLE? NO, IT'S HERE.
IT'S IN TODAY'S, YEAH, IT'S IN TODAY'S DID DID SHE SAY 14,000 ON THAT CAR? 28? I HAD 28 TOTAL, BUT 14 TOTAL.
HOW ARE Y'ALL DOING THIS MORNING? GOOD, GOOD.
UH, WELL, YOU 14 GO TO THE, UH, THE, THE BOTTOM LINE.
I'M, THIS BUDGET'S GONNA GET, MY BUDGET'S GONNA GET CUT ALMOST 29,000.
AND IF Y'ALL REMEMBER LAST YEAR WE DID THE RADIOS.
SO THAT'S WHERE THE CUT COMES FROM.
SO WE WERE END OF LIFE ON OUR WATCH GUARD IN OUR CARS AND THE BODY CAMS, THAT'S ALL BEEN TAKEN CARE OF.
SO THAT'S GONNA COME OUTTA THIS BUDGET, SO.
UM, IT LOOKS GOOD, YOU KNOW, UM, THAT IS GOOD.
SO OTHER THAN THAT, I'M NOT MAKING ANY CHANGES.
I'M NOT ASKING FOR ANY LINE ITEM INCREASES.
UM, I THINK, UH, WE'RE OKAY ON ALL THAT.
UM, VEHICLE MAINTENANCE MAKES ME A ME A LITTLE NERVOUS JUST BECAUSE, UH, WE'RE AT LIKE 1400 OUTTA $7,500 RIGHT NOW, BUT THE TIRES ARE SO EXPENSIVE.
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THOSE SPEED RATE TIRES ARE SO EXPENSIVE.UM, BUT I HAVE TWO SETS IN RESERVE THAT, THAT WE HAVE.
SO A SET OF TIRES ON A PATROL CAR LASTS ABOUT A YEAR AND THEY'RE ABOUT 12, 1400 EXCEPT FOR THOSE.
SO THEY'RE JUST TAKE LONG TO BURN THAT MONEY.
SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST, OUTSIDE LOOKING IN, WE HAVE LEASED VEHICLES AND, AND THEY'RE NEWER AND THEY'RE UNDER WARRANTY AND THAT BUDGET LINE ITEM IS 7,500.
BUT I JUST WANT Y'ALL TO KNOW WHAT THAT MONEY IS SPENT FOR.
YOU KNOW, OIL CHANGE ON THESE CARS ARE $120 I THINK.
AND TWO OF MY CARS ARE TRUCKS AND THEY'RE NOT SPEED RATED AND THOSE TIRES WILL LAST.
THEY'RE CHEAP, THEY'RE CHEAPER.
THEY'RE CHEAPER, THEY'RE NOT CHEAPER.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE FOUR YEAR LEASES AND UH, WE CAN ALMOST GET FOUR YEARS OUT OF THOSE TIRES.
UM, SO DO YOU BUY YOURS AT FIRESTONE OR SOUTHERN TIRE MART? SOUTHERN TIRE MART? YEAH, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT I BOUGHT SOME, JACK HAD A THING THAT TERRELL AND THEY DO ALL THE HIGHWAY PATROL CARS AND THEY GOT A CONTRACT AND THEY'RE CHEAPER.
I WAS USING RANGER TIRE IN TERRELL AT THE EAST END OF TOWN.
UM, BUT I GOT PRICES FROM THEM AND ENDED UP GETTING PRICES FROM SOUTHERN TIRE MART AND SOUTHERN TIRE MART WAS SUBSTANTIALLY CHEAPER.
AND UH, THEY GIVE 'EM THE NEXT DAY THEY BRING 'EM RIGHT TO THE OFFICE.
YOU KNOW, AND THEN WE'LL GO DOWN THERE AND JUST HAVE 'EM MOUNTED, BALANCED.
SO, UM, HOW MANY SETS DO YOU GO THROUGH A YEAR? A SET OF CAR? UH, PROBABLY, I'M PROBABLY GOING THROUGH, IF YOU COUNT THE BACKUP, WHICH YOU CAN'T REALLY COUNT THE BACKUP, PROBABLY THREE SETS.
UH, SO YOU GOT, SO YOU GOT THREE CARS THAT YOU ACTUALLY USE THE, THOSE TIRES ON THE SPEED RATE FOUR SPEED FOUR, FOUR CARS.
BUT ONE IS A BACKUP FOUR TIMES 12 AND THERE'S 300.
YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY, RIGHT? NO, WE GOT 7,500 IN THERE.
SO A SET OF THOSE TIRES ABOUT 1400.
THAT'S 12 SETS, RIGHT? UH, THREE SETS.
THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING HOW MANY TIMES A YEAR DO YOU CHANGE THE TIRES? YEAH, ONE CAR GETS A SET OF TIRES HERE.
THEY'LL THEY'LL LAST, UM, 12, 15,000 MILES IS ALL THOSE AND THEY'RE TWENTIES ON THESE NEW TAHOES.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE VERY EXPENSIVE.
SO, UH, UM, THE OTHER THING I, WE GOT TIME SO I'M JUST GOING TO PUT IT OUT THERE.
UM, I, I, I WANNA, I'M GONNA ASK FOR, UH, OUR CLERK TO BE CHANGED FROM A ONE TO A THREE CLERK.
UH, AND IF WE WANNA TALK ABOUT THAT NOW OR QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY.
UM, I JUST THINK BASED ON THE, THE DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES, IT FALLS RIGHT IN LINE WITH THE CLERK THREE FROM MY OFFICE.
UM, BASED ON THE WORKLOAD THAT WE HAVE TRIED TO SEND ALL Y'ALL SOMETHING LETTING YOU KNOW WHAT OUR NUMBERS WERE.
UH, RICH'S DAUGHTER SENT IT OUT.
JACKSON, DID Y'ALL GET A COPY? NO.
LET ME JUST READ OFF A COUPLE THINGS REAL QUICK.
UH, I DON'T SEE PRECINCT TWO ON HERE.
PRECINCT TWO HAS A DIFFERENT RMS SYSTEM THEN.
SO THE THREE THAT I HAVE, PRECINCT THREE FROM JANUARY TO DECEMBER LAST YEAR RECEIVED, UH, PAPERS TO BE SERVED.
ONE WAS 4 34 AND PRECINCT FOUR WAS 471.
SO THEY'RE MORE THAN DOUBLE THE OTHER TWO.
BUT I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT NUMBER TWO IS.
UH, ALSO, UH, MONEY THAT THEY BRING IN THREE, THIS IS FOR THE JP COURTS.
THREE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT PAYS THEIR ENTIRE BUDGET WITH FINES AND FEES THAT'S COLLECTED.
THE OTHER FOUR ARE IN, I CALL THEM THE RED.
THAT'S THE WAY I LOOK AT IT, NOT THE BLACK.
SO WE KNOW WHERE THE INCOME IS COMING FROM AND FOR INSTANCE, ONE I BROUGHT IN 50 2002, BROUGHT IN 96, 3 BROUGHT, UH, 120 1004, BROUGHT 45,000.
SO YOU KINDA SEE THE, THE VOLUME IN WHAT'S GOING ON AS FAR AS, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S ANOTHER ONE COME IN WANTING TO DO THE SAME THING, UH, GO FROM A ONE TO THREE AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE HR JUST TO COMPARE EVERYTHING AND MAKE SURE THAT, UH, JUSTIFIABLE.
AND, AND I HAVE, I JUST TOOK THE THREE, THIS IS THE CLERK THREE AND LOOK AT THE RESPONSIBILITIES AND THEN ADDED TO THAT WHAT SHE DOES.
AND HERE'S THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF A ONE JUST RIGHT THERE.
I MEAN IT'S, AND I, I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR MY OFFICE AND WHAT OUR CLERK DOES, BUT I'VE NEVER WORKED WITH ANYBODY.
YOU CAN SHOW SOMETHING ONE TIME AND TOMORROW I SHALL KNOW MORE THAN I KNOW ABOUT IT.
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YOU KNOW, UH, WANNA EVER LOSE HER.SO VERY, VERY FORTUNATE, UH, TO HAVE HER, IT'S ALL ABOUT GETTING CARS BACK ON THE STREET.
IT'S ALL ABOUT PUTTING SQUAD CARS ON THE STREET IN MY OFFICE.
THE LESS TIME THEY CAN SPEND UP THERE DOING PAPERWORK, THE MORE TIME THEY'RE OUT THERE.
UM, AND I, I, THAT'S WHAT MY CLERK IS, IS FOR.
SO, UM, ANYWAY, AND, AND I PULLED THE, THE, THOSE NUMBERS YOU SAID ON THOSE PAPERS WE'RE TRENDING RIGHT NOW TO, UH, BE 80 PAPERS OVER THAT 9 93 ALREADY.
SO, UH, EVERY TIME YOU TURN AROUND IN WOMEN FARMS,
I SWEAR THEY CAN FIX, FINISH A HOUSE IN 30 DAYS OUT THERE.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE, UH, WORKING, STAYING BUSY ALL DAY.
SUMMER SHOW THEY HAVE TO BE BUSY.
YEAH, THEY'RE UH, THEY LIKE TO BE BUSY.
THERE'S, THERE'S, UH, UH, IF THEY WANT TO HAVE A CUP OF COFFEE IN THE MORNING, THERE'S TIME FOR THAT STILL.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT THAT, UH, COVERED UP, BUT, UH, UH, THEY LIKE TO STAY BUSY AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE HANDLING BUSINESS.
SO ANY QUESTIONS? NO COMMENTS? MM-HMM.
SHE GAVE ME ONE, BUT I DON'T WANNA DEAL WITH IT.
HOW EVERYBODY YOU DOING? MORNING.
WHAT WE'RE ASKING EACH ONE TO DO TODAY YES.
IS ON YOUR SECOND PAGE, THE DETAIL REQUEST.
I KNOW, UH, CHRISTINA'S NOTARY, IT EXPIRED.
AND, AND SHE'S THE ONLY ONE THAT IS CERTIFIED TO NOTARIZE AND MY DEPARTMENT.
SO WE ARE REQUESTED, I HAVE TWO NEW EMPLOYEES THAT I WILL LIKE IF WE CAN HAVE ACCESSIBILITY AND BE CERTIFIED TO NORMALIZE.
SHE WILL BE THE ONLY ONE RECERTIFIED.
SO THAT'S ONE OF THE ITEMS. UM, NEW STAFF AND EQUIPMENT THAT THE COUNTY IS GROWING AND WE ARE HOPING TO GET A NEW ADDITIONAL STAFF MEMBER.
AND WHAT SPECIFICALLY WOULD THAT PERSON DO? RISK MANAGEMENT SUPERVISOR.
ANYTHING RELATED TO THE SAFETY AND THE RISK OF THE COUNTY.
YOU ARE, YOU'RE DOING A GOOD JOB.
UM, WITH THAT INCREASING IN STAFF, ACTUALLY WE NEED MORE TRAININGS AND RISK MANAGEMENT, WORKERS' COMPENSATION, AND ALSO HR TRAININGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ACCESSIBILITY FOR MY EMPLOYEES TO ATTEND, TO GROW WITHIN OUR SCOPE OF WORK.
SO THAT'S TRAINING TRAINING'S IMPORTANT? YES, MOST DEFINITELY.
UM, THERE'S A RETIREMENT PLAQUES AND CAKES FOR ALL THOSE MEMBERS THAT ARE RETIRING WITHIN SERVICE THAT THEY HAVE PROVIDED WITH THE COUNTY.
WE, UH, RECOGNIZE THOSE EMPLOYEES FOR THEIR YEARS OF SERVICE.
WITH A PLAQUE THAT WE PROVIDE AND ALSO CAKES OF WHAT THEY WANT.
SO THAT IS HOW MUCH IS THAT LINE ITEM NOW? YES.
OR DO YOU HAVE A LINE ITEM FOR THAT? YES.
I'M LOOKING OVER HERE ON YOUR SHEET.
5,648 CURRENTLY FOR THAT LINE ITEM.
WHAT LINE ITEM IS IT? 'CAUSE I DON'T, IS THE EMPLOYEE RETIREMENT EDUCATION APPRECIATION? THERE WE GO.
WE LAST YEAR REVISED IT TO 59, 48 MM-HMM.
AND SO FAR YOU SPENT LESS THAN A HUNDRED BUCKS? YEAH,
SO IT'S, IT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT MORE, I DON'T KNOW WHY.
WELL, THIS IS THE END OF MARCH NOW.
WELL, AND AND YOU CAN KIND OF TELL WHO'S ELIGIBLE I GUESS, AND THE PEOPLE COME TALK TO YOU ABOUT YES.
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ABOUT IT.SO, SO FAR FOR THIS, FOR THE LAST THREE MONTHS, WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN RETIRED AND WILL BE RETIRING SEPTEMBER.
SO HOW MUCH, IF YOU BUY A PLAQUE MM-HMM.
WHAT'S THAT AVERAGE COST PER RETIREE? DO YOU ANY IDEA? I WOULD SAY ABOUT ABOUT 3, 3 50.
THE PLAQUE ALONE IS ABOUT A HUNDRED BUCKS.
UM, AND THEN IF THEY HAVE LIKE PARTY DECORATIONS OR CAKE, I WOULD SAY TO BE FAIR, ABOUT THREE 50, LET'S SAY 400 JUST TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE.
AND ON AN AVERAGE YEAR YOU HAVE HOW MANY RETIRE YOU THINK? IT VARIES FROM YEAR TO YEAR.
SO WE, WE CANNOT HAVE A ROUGH ESTIMATE.
SO FAR WE HAVE THREE THAT WE KNOW THAT ARE RETIRING WITHIN FROM NOW TO SEPTEMBER, BUT IT DOES VARIES.
AND AVERAGE, I WOULD SAY ABOUT MAYBE 10 AVERAGE IN A YEAR.
ABOUT 10, MAYBE 15, I DON'T KNOW.
AVERAGE TO BE ON THE SAFESIDE TEST.
SO WE'RE LOOKING A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN FIVE GRAND IF YOU AVERAGE 10 MM-HMM.
I DON'T THINK THAT WE REQUESTED ANYTHING ADDITIONAL FOR THE LINE ITEM, DID WE? I DON'T THINK SO.
THAT'S THE, UH, YEAH, THE, THE DRUG TESTING ON THE EMPLOYEES.
SO WE HAVE, YES WE DO 2000, UH, 5,178.
THAT WAS THE LINE ITEM FOR 2023 AND WE GREASE IT TO 7,000.
THAT'S TO COVER NEW EMPLOYEES ARE COMING IN AND UH, AS WELL, WE HAVE TO RETEST EVERY TIME A NEW EMPLOYEE COMES IN, ESPECIALLY WITHIN THE ROAD AND BRIDGE, WE NEED TO HAVE THOSE LINE ITEMS FOR RECERTIFICATION, FOR THE CLEARING HOUSES.
SO YOU SPENT PERFECT SIX MONTHS TO THE YEAR.
2100 BUCKS SO FAR? UM, YEAH, FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS.
AND, AND WE'RE EVEN OVER ON THAT ONE.
UM, JUST WITH THE INCREASE OF NEW HIRES.
AND SENDING EVERY NEW HIRE TO DRUG TESTING.
WE ADDED ONE, UM, ADDITIONAL ITEM FOR RISK MANAGEMENT.
AND THIS IS IN A DETENTION CENTER.
WE GET EX, OUR EMPLOYEES, THE JAILERS GET EXPOSED TO HIV, HEPATITIS A, B, AND C TB.
UH, WHEN WE SEND THEM TO WORKERS' COMPENSATION CLAIM, THE CLAIM OR TAG DOES NOT COVER ANY TESTING FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES.
SO EVERY THREE MONTHS THEY HAVE TO BE RETEST TO ENSURE THEY'RE CLEAR AND THEY DON'T HAVE ANY EXPOSED OR ANY ACTIVE BACTERIA.
SO EVERY TIME THE THE EMPLOYEE GOES TO TEST IS $300 THAT THE TAX IS NOT COVERED.
AND THE EMPLOYEE, BECAUSE OF THE FILE WORKERS' COMPENSATION, WE CANNOT ASK THE EMPLOYEE TO PAY FOR THOSE KIND OF TESTINGS THEMSELVES.
WHO'S BEEN PAYING FOR IT? UH, SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE THREE, UM, CLAIMS AND RELATED TO THAT.
SO THE FIRST CLAIM WE RECEIVE, I REQUESTED TALK TO PAY FOR THOSE UNTIL WE FIGURE IT OUT.
WHAT WE CAN DO AS A COUNTY FOR THOSE TYPE OF CLAIMS. UM, IT IS T SAY THAT SOME COUNTIES DO HAVE A SEPARATE LOGGING ITEM TO COVER.
THAT BUTT IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY FURTHER TESTING EXCEPT THE FIRST INITIAL AND THE CLAIM.
WOULD THE ON THE SHERIFF'S BUDGET SOMEWHERE BE COVERED AT IF THEY'RE WORKING IN THE JAIL? I DID REACH OUT TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
THEY DON'T HAVE A BUDGET FOR THAT PARTICULAR, SEEM LIKE THAT'S WHERE IT WOULD COME FROM IF THEY WORKED THERE.
I DID REACH OUT AND SO WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? OTHERWISE A YEAR.
SO IT'S $300 FOR EACH TEST AND THIS THROUGH THE YEAR.
SO THEY HAVE A YEAR TO BE TESTED.
SO IT COMES UP TO THREE TIMES, FOUR TIMES COMES TO $1,800 EACH CLAIM.
AND THERE'S VERY FEW, I MEAN SO FAR WE HAVE, UM, SO WE DON'T GET VERY MANY CLAIMS, BUT THEY'RE, THE CLAIMS ARE OUT THERE.
AND THEN AS FAR AS THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, I MEAN WE COULD HAVE EXPOSURES.
WE'VE GOT OUR CONSTABLES OUT THERE AS WELL DOING SEARCHES AND STUFF AND MIGHT GET PRICKED.
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SO EXACTLY.SO WE'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM, SO WHAT'S YOUR TOTAL REQUEST BUDGET WISE ON THAT? SO WE ARE REQUESTING, UH, UH, $1,200 FOR THAT.
IF WE HAVE 10 CLAIMS THAT IT'S ONLY COVERING ANYTHING BEYOND THAT, WE WILL NOT BE COVERING.
WHAT ABOUT ON THE VA? DO WE VACCINATE ALL THE EMPLOYEES? THAT'S, THAT'S IN THE JAIL.
THAT'S MY, I WAS GONNA ASK FOR TB AND YEP.
OR FOR THE, ESPECIALLY LIKE THE ALL THE STAMP HEPATITIS.
YEAH, HEPATITIS T AND ALL THAT.
I I, I DON'T KNOW TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I DON'T KNOW THE PROCEDURE ON THE SHERIFF.
THAT MIGHT BE, BECAUSE I KNOW, ESPECIALLY, ESPECIALLY IN THE DETENTION OFFICERS IN THE JAIL.
YES IT IS KINDA LIKE RIDING AN AMBULANCE.
I MEAN YOU, YOU REALLY NEED TO BE VACCINATED FOR THAT STUFF, YOU KNOW? AND I KNOW WHERE I'VE, WHEN YOU HAVE TITER TESTS, YOU HAVE TO GO BACK AND CHECK TO MAKE SURE THAT YES, EVERY THREE MONTHS YOU HAD TO BE, AND I KNOW WHY I WAS AT LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY I WORKED FOR, THEY WOULD BACK THE CITY PAID FOR TO THAT'S THE WAY, THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS WHERE I WORKED ASK.
SAYING I THOUGHT I BE, IF NOT, WE NEED TO BE ON THERE.
IF IT'S HAPPENING OVER THERE, YOU SEE THAT.
WELL IT CUT DOWN THE EXPOSURES MIGHT WERE GONNA HAPPEN.
GO THROUGH HR THOUGH, AND IT CUT DOWN THE CHANCE OF IT, YOU KNOW.
SO THE CLAIM HAS TO COME THROUGH YOU.
SO WE COULD EITHER PUT THE MONEY IN YOUR BUDGET OR IN THE SHERIFF'S BUDGET BUT STILL HAS TO COME THROUGH HR.
IT'S UNDER WORKERS' COMPENSATION.
IT'LL BE EASIER TO TRACK IT FROM YOU 'CAUSE YOU DO ALL THAT.
SO WHERE IS IT ON THE SHEET? $1,200.
IT'S THE RISK MANAGEMENT LINE ITEM.
IT IS UNDER THE DRUG TESTING EMPLOYEES SHOWING 12,000.
YOU SAID 1200? YEAH, THAT'S THE 1200.
UM, WE ALSO, AS THE COUNTY IS GROWING, THEREFORE WE NEED MORE BACKGROUNDS TO BE RUN ON NEW EMPLOYEES.
SO THAT IS INCREASING BY $2,000.
UH, SO CURRENTLY IT'S 7,420 FOR 2023.
AND THAT'S WHEN EMPLOYEES EXIT.
THEN WE HAD TO BRING MORE NEW EMPLOYEES REPLACEMENT AND WE HAD TO RUN BACKGROUNDS.
AND YOU'VE GOT RECRUITMENT 10,000, WHAT IS THAT FOR? YES SIR.
THAT IS A RECRUITMENT, THAT'S A LINE ITEM THAT WE DON'T HAVE, UH, CURRENTLY, BUT IT'S RECOMMENDED BECAUSE AS A DAS DO REACH OUT TO OR WE WANNA REACH OUT TO OTHER AGENCIES TO ADVERTISE THEIR POSITIONS, THEY CHARGE US MONEY.
UH, JUST LAST WEEK WE REACHED OUT TO ANOTHER COMPANY THAT THE DAS WERE REFERRING US TO, THAT POSTING IT WAS ONLY FOR 30 DAYS, $800.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT OUR RECRUITMENT LINE ITEM WE DON'T HAVE.
AND IF WE WANNA BRING IN NEW EMPLOYEES, UM, THAT HAS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED FOR THE DAS, ANY SPECIFIC, LIKE THE INVESTIGATION CENTER, UM, WE CAN REACH OUT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A BUDGET FOR ADVERTISING OUR JOB POSITIONS.
THE ONLY WHAT WE HAVE IS OUR WEBSITE.
UM, WE REACH OUT TO NEIL GOV AND OTHER THAN THAT WE DON'T, WE HAVE TO PAY OUT OF POCKET TO BE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO.
YEAH, THERE'S QUITE QUALIFIED, QUITE A FEW OF 'EM NOW.
BUT THAT'S HOW WE FIND QUALIFIED PEOPLE.
OTHER THAN FACEBOOK OR OUR ABSOLUTELY.
BECAUSE INDEED IS, IT IS GOOD FOR ENTRY AND IT'S FREE FOR ENTRY LEVELS, BUT IF WE WANNA REACH OUT TO SPECIALIZED CERTIFICATION CANDIDATES, YOU HAD TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE, THEN WE HAD TO PAY SOME KIND OF MONEY TO BE ABLE TO TO, TO ADVERTISE ON THOSE AREAS.
UM, THERE'S ALSO A LINE ITEM FOR SOFTWARE, UH, TIMEKEEPING PAYROLL THAT I DON'T THINK THAT IT SHOULD BE ON OURS.
MOVING FORWARD, WE WANNA REMOVE THAT LINE ITEM AND BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE UN TO TYLER TIME AND ATTENDANCE, UM, WE FEEL LIKE IT OVERALL THE COUNTY MUST, SHOULD PAY FOR THAT.
NOT FOR OUR, WE TALKED TO NATHAN ABOUT THAT, OR WE TALKED TO NATHAN AND I HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH OFFICE WITH BRANDY AS WELL, AND THEY'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT.
THAT'S FURTHER CONVERSATION OF COURSE, BUT OKAY.
BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE NO TIME ANY LONGER AFTER TIME AND ATTENDANCE COME
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IN PLACE, UH, THAT I HOPEFULLY CAN BE REMOVED.SO THAT'LL BE A SAVING FOR THAT.
UM, WE ARE ASKING FOR AN INCREASE IN OFFICE SUPPLIES AS NEW EMPLOYEES.
WE HIRE NEW EMPLOYEES AND UM, THAT ALSO WASN'T A NEGATIVE FOR THIS YEAR.
SO WE INCREASING IT BY $2,000.
SO IT WENT FROM 606,000 TO 65 AND 6 CENTS TO 8,000.
UM, AND THEN FOR MILEAGE MILLS AND LODGING, AGAIN WITH NEW STAFF MEMBERS, I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO, UM, SEND THEM TO TRAININGS AND THAT INCLUDES THAT.
AND IT'S ONLY $2,000 THAT WE INCREASE.
AND OF COURSE IF THERE'S NO TRAININGS THAT WILL BE INTERESTED TO EMPLOYEES, WE WILL OUTAND THEM.
AND SO, AND THEN WITH THIS LINE ITEM AS WELL, THAT'S WHERE WE PULL OUR, OUR ALL OVERALL TRAININGS.
UH, LIKE THE SEXUAL HARASSMENT TRAINING, WE'LL PULL FROM THAT LINE ITEM FOR ANY LIKE DRINKS OR SNACKS OR ANYTHING THAT WE MIGHT NEED FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.
AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS, UH, EMPLOYEE TUITION REIMBURSEMENT.
UM, THAT ACTUALLY EMPLOYEES ARE REACHING OUT AND THEY'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT REIMBURSEMENT TUITION FOR EDUCATION FOR GROWTH WITHIN THE COUNTY.
SO, UM, EXPLAIN THAT IN MORE DETAIL PLEASE.
UH, THAT TUITION ACTUALLY IS A POLICY THE COUNTY HAS FOR ANY EMPLOYEES THAT THEY WANT TO ADVANCE IN THE EDUCATION FOR WHAT THEY'RE WORKING FOR THE COUNTY.
THEY, THEY CAN, DEPENDING ON THE, UH, GRADES THAT THEY GET AT THE END OF THEIR SEMESTER, THE COUNTY GIVES A REIMBURSEMENT FOR THAT.
DO YOU HAVE SOMEONE DOING THAT CURRENTLY? YES, WE DO HAVE, UH, WHAT'S HER NAME? WE'VE GOT, UH, THREE EMPLOYEES, THREE EMPLOYEES,
SO WHAT KIND OF TRAINING ARE THEY GETTING AND WHAT'S IT, HOW'S IT GONNA BENEFIT THE COUNTY? SO ONE OF 'EM IS, UM, IT, SO THERE'S THERE THEY'RE GETTING CERTIFICATIONS FOR THOSE TO FURTHER THAT.
UM, THE OTHER ONE, UM, IS IN THE AUDIT DEPARTMENT AND FOR THE CERTIFICATIONS FOR THAT AS WELL.
JUST TRYING TO KEEP UP TO DATE WITH ANY COMPLIANCE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO IT'S, UM, THOSE KIND OF CLASSES WE MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER COURSES THEY'RE TAKING IS GOING TO APPLY TO WHAT THEY'RE WORKING ON AS WELL.
SO IT'S GONNA BE RELATABLE TO THAT AS WELL.
UM, AND IT DEPENDS WHETHER THEY GET IT A, B OR C.
YOU GET A HUNDRED PERCENT REIMBURSEMENT IF YOU GET AN A, IF YOU GET IT.
B, YOU GET LIKE A 50% REIMBURSEMENT.
SO IT JUST KIND OF DEPENDS ON WHERE YOU LAND ON THE GRADING SCALE.
OF WHAT YOU WOULD GET REIMBURSED BACK.
BUT I KNOW A LOT OF EMPLOYEES ARE JUST NOW TAPPING INTO IT.
BUT AS WORD GETS AROUND, WE'RE WE'RE, WE'RE ANTICIPATING MORE EMPLOYEES.
WELL THAT, I MEAN I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM THAT WE STARTED.
AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, YOU ASK QUESTIONS ARE HOW'S, I MEAN, HOW'S IT GONNA BENEFIT? BUT EVEN WHEN THEY'RE TAKING THEIR BASICS, I JUST COMMUNICATION SKILLS OR WRITING OR, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST YOU, YOU NEED ALL OF IT.
YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT ON IT'S YOUR JOB, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE EDUCATION.
WELL IT IS, IT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
I JUST NEED SOME EXAMPLES SO I CLEAR.
AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT OUR EMPLOYEES TO CREATE GREAT CUSTOMER SERVICE.
'CAUSE WE DO, WE WANT THEM TO BE A GREAT REPRESENTATION FOR OUR COUNTY.
UM, SO IF WE'VE GOT A CITIZEN COMING IN, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE GETTING THE BEST SERVICE POSSIBLE.
SO FOR 25 YOU'RE REQUESTING ABOUT 400,000 LESS THAN PRIOR YEAR.
DOES THAT INCLUDE YOUR, UH, REQUEST FOR A NEW STAFF MEMBER IN THAT NUMBER? NO.
IT'S, IT'S PART OF YOUR SALARIES AND ALLOWANCES UP THERE.
SO OVERALL, DEPENDING ON WHICH ONE OF THESE SALARY RANGES WE GO WITH, YES.
WHICH ONE DID YOU USE? THE UH, WELL ACTUALLY I PUT THE MAXIMUM IN HERE.
BUT OF COURSE ANY NEW MEMBERS, I'M GONNA START 'EM AT THE BEGINNING, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY DURING THE SALARY STARTED WITH OTHER COUNTIES, THEY'RE PAYING APPROXIMATELY 63,000 FOR THAT POSITION.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE 68, SAY 69.
THAT COMES WALKING THROUGH THE DOOR AND YOU HAVE TO PAY HIM A LITTLE BIT MORE TO, TO GET HIM OR HER.
YOU HAVE THE LATITUDE TO DO THAT, RIGHT? MOST DEFINITELY.
WE'LL HAVE TO BE CHILD FOR PROBATION.
BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST NEVER KNOW WHEN THAT, YOU DON'T WHEN THAT WHEN, HEY, I,
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I'M RETIRED OR I I JUST MOVED HERE FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE.YOU KNOW? SO, SO IN YOUR NUMBERS YOU USE THE MAX? YES.
SO OVERALL WE'RE DOWN TO ABOUT 40,000.
WE UH, WHERE YOU GONNA PUT 'EM?
THIS IS COMING, BUT IT'S NOT COMING ANYTIME SOON.
WELL, IF THIS BUDGET TAKES EFFECT OCTOBER, HOPEFULLY BY NEXT YEAR WE'LL BE ABLE TO UTILIZE
I WOULD SAY IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD'VE TO BE NEXT YEAR.
ANY QUESTIONS? ANYTHING ELSE? NO, SIR.
WE'LL MU THESE OVER CRUNCH NUMBERS THEN LET YOU KNOW IF WE HAVE MORE QUESTIONS.
UH, THE COMPUTER EQUIPMENT LEXUS NEXT EVERY YEAR.
WE CONTRACTED WITH THEM YEARS AGO.
THEY GO UP 3% EVERY YEAR, WHICH MY PART IS BASICALLY ABOUT 80, $90 I THINK IN THERE.
AS FAR AS MY FURNITURE, I THINK I'M SET UP PRETTY WELL, BUT I'M GIVING $200 BACK AND I'M KEEPING A THOUSAND JUST IN CASE OF EMERGENCY SITUATIONS.
UM, AND THEN MY OFFICE SUPPLIES, I NO LONGER, UM, NEED TO BE PURCHASING INK.
THAT'S WHAT I REQUESTED ALL THAT FOR LAST YEAR.
UM, I ACTUALLY GOT A XEROX MACHINE NOW, WHICH I CAN DO ALL MY REPORTS AND EVERYTHING FOR THE HOSPITAL.
UH, THE ONE THING THAT I AM ASKING FOR IS A TITLE CHANGE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DISCUSS TODAY OR IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA DO THAT LATER.
SO I WILL GET THAT INFORMATION FOR Y'ALL LATER.
SO YEAH, 'CAUSE I'M WANTING TO DO A TITLE CHANGE, BUT I WANT TO INCREASE IT WITH THE TITLE CHANGE, SO YES.
WELL, I YOU WANNA GET OUTTA HERE TOO QUICK? WELL, I'M BY MYSELF.
LILY WILL BE BACK IN A COUPLE MORE MONTHS.
I THINK SHE COMES BACK IN THE MIDDLE OF JULY.
SO I'M, I'M JUST KIND OF LIKE THOUSAND PLACES AT ONE TIME RIGHT NOW.
ANY QUESTIONS
ARE YOU, YOU'RE DOING A GOOD JOB.
ALRIGHT MISS MONIQUE, YOU GOT TWO MINUTES? WHAT? AND THIS DON'T GIVE HER TWO MINUTES 'CAUSE SHE'LL TAKE AN EXTRA SIX.
SO AN EXTRA THREE ONLY IF I'M TALKING TO STEVE
SHE'D HAVE TO HAVE A STACK OF DIMES.
WHAT THEY TRYING TO SAY? OKAY.
IS THIS, I HOPE ALL OF YOU HAVE POWER.
I'M HOPING TO GET SOME BACK TODAY.
I GOT A CREW ASSIGNED TO ME TODAY, SO.
SO, AND YOU'RE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF ME, SO MAYBE THEY'RE COMING TO YOU.
I'M TIRED OF FLASHLIGHTS AND GENERATORS.
I DON'T EVEN HAVE A GENERATOR.
SO, UM, I DID, UH, I'M NOT GIVING ANYTHING BAD, SORRY,
UM, COMPUTER EQUIPMENT, I INCREASED IT BY FOUR TRAINING AND EDUCATION BY TWO GAS AND OIL BY TWO OFFICE SUPPLIES BY TWO.
UM, EVERY TIME WE IMPLEMENT A NEW PROCESS OR PROCEDURE, IT ALWAYS TAKES SOME KIND OF ADDED EQUIPMENT OR SO FORTH AND SO ON.
WE HAVE, UM, REALLY GROWN THE ENVIRONMENTAL SIDE, UM, AND ALSO TRYING TO PROTECT OUR GUYS THAT ARE ENTERING PROPERTY.
UM, I'M GETTING THEM BITE STICKS BECAUSE WE'VE HAD DOG ISSUES.
SO PEOPLE LIKE TO PUT A PIT BULL ON THEIR PROPERTY AND, AND WE'VE GOTTA GET IN THERE AND SEE THE SEPTIC OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
SO THE BITE STICKS AREN'T EXPENSIVE, BUT THEY ARE A GREAT PRECAUTIONARY.
KEEP THE DOG AT BAY BY, THEY CAN GET IN THE CAR.
UM, SO THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS I'M TRYING TO EQUIP THEM WITH WHEN THEY'RE ENTERING PROPERTIES.
AND SO THAT'S WHY SOME OF THESE, UH, LINE ITEMS HAVE GONE UP.
MY SOFTWARE, WHICH ONLY COSTED US $450 A YEAR UP
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UNTIL NOW, UM, WHICH IS, OH MY GOSH, CHEAP.BUT NOW WE'VE PUT IT IN THE CLOUD, SO NOW IT IS SO MUCH FASTER.
AND OF COURSE IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE.
AND SO, UM, BUT IT STAYED WITHIN MY CURRENT BUDGET THIS YEAR.
BUT I DO WANT TO, UM, LOOK FOR A, A SPECIFIC SOFTWARE FOR SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
AND SO I DIDN'T WANT TO TAP THAT COMPLETELY, WHICH IS WHY I INCREASED THE $2,000 SO I WOULDN'T LEAVE THAT COMPLETELY EMPTY.
WE NOW HAVE CONTINUING EDUCATION HOURS FOR ONSITE SEWAGE AS WELL AS ENVIRONMENTAL AS WELL AS THE COUNTY ENGINEER.
SO WE HAVE ALL THESE CONTINUING EDUCATIONS.
WE FOUND CLASSES THAT WERE LOCAL SO THAT WE COULD DRIVE DAILY.
THERE WAS NO HOTELS OR ANYTHING, BUT THAT'S NOT ALWAYS THE CASE.
LIKE THE ONSITE SEWAGE ONE IS IN GALVESTON NEXT YEAR.
SO WE'RE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT A DAILY DRIVE, BUT WE WERE, WE TRIED TO BE VERY CONSERVATIVE AND FIND CLASSES IN MESQUITE AND DALLAS SO THAT WE COULD JUST IN THE, THEY COME AND PICK UP THE TRUCK IN THE MORNING, GO THE CLASS, COME BACK.
AND SO WE DID VERY WELL ON OUR EDUCATION AND TRAINING AND LODGING THIS YEAR.
BUT THEY'RE ALL, THEIR CONTINUING EDUCATION HOURS ARE COMING UP.
SO, AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET THEM, UH, EDUCATED, UH, A LOT BETTER ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASPECT AND ENFORCEMENT AS WELL.
SO NOW Y Y'ALL USE THE T FACILITY OVER IN MESQUITE? UHHUH.
AND UH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH DR.
OLS, BUT HE IS A ENVIRONMENTAL, UM, UH, SPECIALIST AND WE SIGNED UP FOR UNLIMITED VIRTUAL CLASSES FOR THE ENTIRE STAFF FOR 500 BUCKS.
THEY CAN TAKE ALL THOSE CLASSES AND GET CERTIFICATIONS AND THAT $500 IS FOR ALL OF THEM FOR ONE YEAR.
SO WE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THAT AS WELL.
SO I'M LIKE, WE'RE GONNA KEEP DOING THAT.
THEY'RE ON THEIR TIME, THEY CAN GET IN.
AND AND HE'S ALSO A LEGAL EXPERT AS WELL, SO HE KNOWS WHAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO ENFORCE AND WHAT WE DON'T.
SO, SO TOTAL MY BUDGET INCREASED BY $10,000 TOTAL.
THEN I HAVE ANOTHER TOPIC,
DEPENDING ON THIS DISCUSSION WILL DEPEND ON WHETHER OR NOT I NEED A LITTLE EXTRA MONEY.
NOW WHAT IS THE COMMON VISION PROGRAM? I KNOW IT WASN'T BUDGET DISTRICT, IT'S 10,000 NOW.
WHAT THAT IS, THAT IS UM, THAT IS, UM, WE ARE MEMBERS OF THE COMMON VISION PROGRAM, WHICH INCLUDES OUR REGIONAL AREA.
WE HAVE ACCESS TO FEMA, CORPS OF ENGINEERS.
ANY OF THEIR DATA THAT THEY DO ON THE TRINITY, THE EAST LATERAL, THEY SEND THAT TO US.
SO WE GET REALLY GOOD DATA ON, UM, EROSION DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HAPPENING ALONG THAT CORRIDOR THAT'S AFFECTING THE RIVER.
AND SO THAT INFORMATION'S VALUABLE.
WE TAKE THAT AND WE DO A, A LETTER OF MAP REVISIONS, UH, TO FIX THE FLOODPLAIN.
COG RUNS THAT PROGRAM AND WE ARE MEMBERS, IT WAS, IT IS YOUR MEMBERSHIP NOT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, BUT THE INVOICE USUALLY COMES THROUGH US AND GARRETT ATTENDS THOSE MEETINGS.
SO BRANDY THOUGHT IT WOULD JUST BE A GOOD IDEA TO MOVE IT TO MY BUDGET.
BUT IT'S THE SAME THING YOU'VE BEEN PAYING.
THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, IF YOU WANNA KNOW ABOUT THAT, WE'VE ALWAYS DONE THAT.
THAT IS UP TO, THAT IS NOT WHAT IT COST EVERY YEAR, BUT IT'S UP TO, SO ANYTIME WE FIND NEW LEGISLATION OR ENFORCEMENT AND WE NEED TO UPDATE OUR REGULATIONS AND LAND USE PERMITS, UM, T TEGNA AND PERKINS, THEY DO THAT.
I SUBMIT TO THEM, HEY, I FOUND THIS IN ANOTHER COUNTY.
CAN YOU FIGURE OUT HOW TO WORK IT INTO OUR BOOK? WE SEND LEGAL, MAKE SURE WE CAN ENFORCE IT AND THEN OUR ENTIRE REGULATION BOOK GETS UPDATED AND THEN WE, WE DO THAT PER SESSION.
I'M ALWAYS LOOKING MONTHLY, WEEKLY.
I KNOW IF I GOT NEW AMENDMENTS COMING BY THE WAY.
SO NEXT, NEXT COMMISSIONER'S COURT AFTER THIS ONE, WHAT ELSE YOU GOT? SO THEY MOVED THAT TO MINE TO MY OKAY, THAT MAKES SENSE.
THAT WAY I CAN FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH MONEY I HAVE LEFT.
SEE NOW THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF A LITTLE DIFFICULT, SO, OKAY.
SO ARE WE READY FOR THE, THE NEXT STEP? SURE.
SO STEVE AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ON AND OFF FIVE AND A HALF YEARS ABOUT STORM WATER.
AND SO STEVE WAS GIVEN STORM WATER IN 2019 BY, UM, THE COUNTY JUDGE AND HE WAS JUST ASSIGNED TO HIM.
HE WASN'T REALLY SURE WHAT HE WAS SUPPOSED TO DO WITH IT.
TCQ SENDS OUT NOTICE OF HIS TENT, WHICH IS GONNA DO CONSTRUCTION, THAT TYPE OF THING, OR, UM, MS FOUR PERMITS AND UM, UM, THINGS TO OUR COUNTY.
STEVE WOULD THEN SCAN THEM AND FILE THEM.
UM, I WAS DOING A LITTLE RESEARCH WHEN HE ASKED ME IF I'D BE INTERESTED IN STORM WATER SINCE DEVELOPMENT HAS STORM WATER AS WELL.
YOU KNOW HOW THEY'RE DOING THE RUNOFF? YES.
UM, WE, SO WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS.
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I I THINK IT'S A NATURAL PLACE FOR IT TO BE BECAUSE IT HAS TO DO WITH DEVELOPMENTS YES.AND WELL, WE'RE GONNA BE COORDINATING BECAUSE UM, IF A DEVELOPMENT, FOR EXAMPLE, HAS A POLLUTANT, WELL THEN STEVE HOLDS THE HAZMAT RIGHT.
AND SO IT WOULD BE A COORDINATED EFFORT, BUT STEVE WOULD LIKE IT TO COME THROUGH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FIRST AND THEN CALL UPON HIM WHEN NEED BE FOR A DECLARATION.
SO WE WOULD REALLY BE DOING IS WE'RE GONNA BE REQUIRING THOSE SLIPS TO BE TURNED INTO US AND THEN THEY WOULD BE REVIEWED AND THEN WE WOULD LIKE TO DOWN THE ROAD SEND OUT SOMEONE TO CHECK THOSE CONSTRUCTION SITES BECAUSE JUST BECAUSE TCEQ TOLD THEM TO PUT UP SILT FENCING AND TO POST IT AT THE SITE DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE DOING THAT.
SO WE ARE THE EYES IN OUR COUNTY, WE NEED TO BE GOING OUT AND CHECKING THAT.
SO, UM, THE FIRST STEP IN THIS PROCESS IS TO, WE NEED A STORM WATER MANAGEMENT PROGRAM.
SO THAT WAS WHAT THE, YOU SEE THE STORM PROGRAM, IF WE'RE GOING TO CREATE A STORM WATER MANAGEMENT PROGRAM FOR OUR COUNTY PERMITTING AS WELL AS THE PROCESS, IT'LL RUN ABOUT $15,000.
NOW THERE'S GOING TO COME A TIME WHERE YOU'RE GONNA GET A NOTICE FROM TCEQ THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE AN MS FOUR THAT IS REQUIRED TO HAVE THIS.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S RECEIVED THAT NOTICE.
WE CAN'T FIND THAT A NOTICE HAS BEEN SENT OUT.
BUT DUE TO OUR GROWTH IN THE CENSUS, THEY'RE GONNA REQUIRE US TO BE AN MS FOUR AND HAVE A PERMIT.
THE FIRST STEP OF THAT IS TO HAVE A STOVE WATER.
DO THEY GIVE US A POPULATION NUMBER ON THAT OR UH HUH DO THEY GIVE US A POPULATION NUMBER ON THAT? YES.
YOU HAVE TO BE LIKE WITHIN AN URBAN OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND POPULATION AND WE'RE ALREADY THERE.
SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GONNA GET NOTICE BETWEEN NOW AND AUGUST THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE ONE AND IF YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN MS FOUR, YOU HAVE 180 DAYS TO GET COMPLIANCE, WHICH MEANS IT'LL DO BE DUE BY, BUT WE CAN HAVE THIS DONE BY OCTOBER ONE ANYWAY, SO RIGHT.
SO IF WE CAN GET THAT STORM WATER PLAN DEVELOPED, WE'RE ONE STEP AHEAD OF THAT PERMIT.
AND WE ARE ALSO DOING SOME ENFORCEMENT ON THESE DEVELOPMENTS WHO ARE COMING IN AND, AND SENDING ALL THEIR DEBRIS TO OUR BAR DITCHES AND NOBODY'S WATCHING THEM.
SO THEN THE NEXT PART OF THIS WOULD BE IN THE NEXT BUDGET YEAR, I WOULD LIKE A STORMWATER INSPECTOR.
THAT PERSON WOULD GO OUT, THAT PERSON WOULD GO AND CHECK THESE SITES AND THEY'LL DO RANDOM CHECKS THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE CONSTRUCTION REPORT BACK AND THEN, UM, DO WATER SAMPLING.
'CAUSE YOU REALLY SHOULD BE TESTING THE WATER IN THAT THEY'RE SENDING OUT TO THE BAR DITCH TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT GOING TO OUR CREEKS.
AND SO THAT'S ANOTHER STEP IN THE PROGRAM, BUT I'M GONNA BRING THAT NEXT YEAR IF THIS COURT APPROVES STORM WATER BEING MOVED.
WELL, I MEAN, TERRY SAID YOU COULD DO THAT AFTER HOURS.
JUST ON, ON YOUR WAY HOME OR SOMETHING.
NO, ON YOUR WAY HOME, YOU KNOW.
WELL, I MEAN, IF YOU'RE GETTING THE SOFTWARE, BUT YOU CAN HAVE A SOFTWARE AND JUST USE IT FOR A WHOLE YEAR, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE ANYBODY TO ENFORCE IT.
BUT WE HAVE TO BUILD IT FIRST.
SO, I MEAN, DID I WANNA, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE MANPOWER TO BUILD IT.
I MEAN, DO YOU I I I DON'T SEE HOW YOU'RE GONNA GET IN HERE WITHOUT HIRING SOMEONE.
THE WORK WOULD BE TO DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO EVEN IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM.
WELL THE, BECAUSE THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME TRAINING THAT GOES WITH THAT ALSO.
I'VE LOOKED UP THOSE SORT OF EDUCATION.
DO YOU HAVE THE PERSONNEL THAT CAN DO THAT NOW ON LIKE A PART-TIME BASIS OR NOT? I MEAN, I DON'T WELL STRETCHED.
BUT I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR THEM TO GUIDE.
LIKE I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO PAY FOR AN INSPECTOR WHEN I DON'T HAVE THE RULES.
SO 15,000 IS TO DEVELOP THE RULES, THEN I CAN BRING THE PERSON IN NOW IF WE WANNA COME BACK HALFWAY, BUT I'M STILL, THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT.
IT TAKES MANPOWER AND TIME TO BUILD THE RULES.
AND THEN WHY NOT HAVE THE PERSON GET EDUCATED, BUILD THE RULES AND THEN SET THE GUIDELINES WHAT WE NEED, WHAT YOU WANT.
I CAN, IF YOU BUILD THE PROGRAM, THEN CAN BUILD THE RULES NOW WITHOUT THAT PERSON BEING HERE AND THEN TRAIN THAT PERSON.
BUT IF I GET IN PLACE, IF I GET THE RULES, I SEE WHAT HE SAID.
IF I GET THE RULES BUILT BY OCTOBER, THEN I COULD START ENFORCING IT IN OCTOBER IF I HAD THAT POSITION IN MY BUDGET.
WOULD MEAN DO YOU HAVE THAT MUCH TIME TO DEDICATE, TO BUILD? ACTUALLY I'M GONNA CHEAT AND USE OTHER PEOPLE'S GOOD STUFF BECAUSE, WELL, THEY'VE ALREADY DONE SOME OF THE WORK.
I THINK IF YOU'RE GONNA HIRE SOMEBODY, YOU BRING 'EM IN IN THE GROUND FLOOR, THEY GET EDUCATED WHEN EVERYBODY ELSE IS GETTING EDUCATED.
AND THEN YOU'VE GOT YOUR DEPARTMENT HEAD YEARS DOWN THE ROAD IF THEY'RE STILL HERE.
I SO HAVE YOU ESTIMATED THE, THE SALARY FOR THAT IS 40 TO 54,000.
HOW MUCH? 48 TO 54,000 FOR A STORMWATER INSPECTOR.
AND I CAN ADD THAT, BUT I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW IF YOU GUYS WANTED ME TO HAVE STORM WATER TO BEGIN WITH.
THAT'S A DECISION Y'ALL HAVE TO MAKE.
SO, BUT, AND STEVE'S GONNA COME AND TALK TO YOU, UH, HIMSELF, BUT HE'S AT CONFERENCE, HE WAS GONNA COME WITH ME.
SO HE WOULD LIKE THIS TO HAPPEN.
SO, SO THESE, THE CONSTRUCTION, I MEAN ALL THIS STUFF YOU SEE UP THERE, THEY POST THE BOARDS AND STUFF.
NOW THIS IS WHAT I WOULD ALMOST BET I'M, I'M PROBABLY RIGHT HERE.
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THE MONEY GOES TO THE STATE, RIGHT? MM-HMM.BUT WE HAVE TO ENFORCE IT FOR NOTHING.
BUT WE CAN CHARGE ADMINISTRATIVE SWIFT REVIEW FEES.
WHICH I'LL GET TO ONCE I GET THAT BELT.
SO TALKED THAT EARLIER SO THAT THAT WOULD ACTUALLY HELP COVER THE SALARY, SOME OF THE COST.
BUT IT'S STILL LUDICROUS AT THE, IT IS STATE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING.
HE ACTUALLY WRITES A TICKET BUT IT GOES STRAIGHT TO THE STATE.
AND THEN WE GET AN EPA VIOLATION OR SOME KIND OF, BECAUSE WE WERE NOT IMPLYING IT AND RIGHT.
CAN WE HAVE TO PAY A FINE? OH, IF WE'RE NOT, IF WE DISCHARGE POLLUTANTS AND WE WEREN'T, IT'S IN OUR COUNTY, WE COULD.
OKAY, WELL LET'S GO AHEAD AND FIGURE IN THIS PERSON.
I'LL ADD THAT TO IT AND GO AHEAD AND ADD IT TO TOP DOLLAR.
'CAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHO MAY FIND SOMEBODY ALREADY CERTIFIED OR NOT.
AND THAT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY.
ANTIQUES OFFERS THE CERTIFICATIONS AS WELL.
AND I PROBABLY WILL SEND JERRY MARTIN OUR ENVIRONMENTAL SPECIALIST TO THE CLASS TOO.
'CAUSE I LIKE TWO PEOPLE TO HAVE A CERTIFICATION IN.
I LIKE THERE TO BE TWO OF EVERYBODY IF I CAN HELP IT.
DON'T THINK THAT'D BE A WISE IF'S.
I LOVE, WE DEB'S MY GUY THAT WE WANT TO RUN THE PROGRAM AND HE, 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY HAS THEIR LITTLE TWEAKS AND I AND I I DON'T THINK YOU'RE SUCH A MICROMANAGER THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA LET A DEPARTMENT HEAD AS LONG AS THEY'RE SUCCESSFUL.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YES.
AND IT TAKES SOMETHING OFF YOUR PLATE.
I MEAN, YOU, YOU, YOU HAVE ENOUGH ALREADY.
YOU GONNA BE RIGHT ON TOP OF IT.
RIGHT? NO, YOU CAN'T RESIST IT.
I THINK, I THINK THAT'S THE WISE THING FOR US TO DO.
I THINK IT IS GO AHEAD AND PLAN FOR IT.
GET IT IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET AND WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT.
SO DO YOU WANT ME TO GET THAT PUT IN AND THEN COME BACK ON YOUR JUNE 3RD OR FOURTH WITH THAT? WHENEVER WE HAVE OUR NEXT ROUND.
SO I'LL SIGN UP FOR THOSE COULD GET CUT BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.
SO DON'T, DON DON'T HIRE HIM YET.
NOW ITS NEXT ROUND HAS NOT BEEN SET SOLID YET, SO.
SO YOU JUST WANT ME TO GET ON THERE WITH THAT.
AND THEN THAT TIME I'LL BRING STEVE AND THEN GET ALL THE NUMBERS TO BRING BRANDY.
BUT I ALREADY HAVE THE JOB DESCRIPTION AND THE TRAINING NECESSARY.
BUT I WAS WAITING ON THE PROGRAM FIRST.
WHAT ELSE GUYS? DON'T LET HIM PICK ON IT.
YOU DIDN'T ASK ME ABOUT THE SPACE.
YOU HAVE AN EMPTY CLOSET OVER.
I TRIED TO TALK IT NATHAN TO GIMME AN OFFICE.
YOU KNOW, I'M LIKE WE CAN JUST BUNK.
DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME WITH ALL THAT FRUITY STUFF.
THAT'S THE KIND OF DIET I'M ELECTRICITY.
I DON'T ON VENT CENTER ACROSS THE ROAD FROM MIRACULOUS.
THEY GOT THEIRS LAST NIGHT AND THE OWNERS OF THE EVENT CENTER AND THEIR KIDS THAT LIVE RIGHT ACROSS THE ROAD FROM ME GOT THEIRS.
RUN AN EXTENSION CORD OVER THERE AND PLUG IN.
THEY'RE SAYING I'M THINKING ABOUT IT.
I COME TO WORK SO I CAN GET READY.
UM, ON MY BUDGET, MOST EVERYTHING I'M LEAVING THE SAME, THE ONLY THING THAT I'M ASKING FOR IS I HAVE, UH, OFFICE SUPPLIES OF $6,750 AND I WANT TO INCREASE THAT TO 7,500 MM-HMM.
AND I WANT TO INCREASE THE MILEAGE MILLS AND LODGING FROM 3,500 TO 4,000.
BUT EVERYTHING ELSE, UM, I WANTED TO LEAVE THE SAME IN MY OPERATING EXPENDITURES.
THE ONLY OTHER THING IS I'M LEAVING ON VACATION.
I DON'T KNOW WHEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THE STUFF ABOUT.
IT'LL BE A, IT'S GONNA BE TWO OR THREE WEEKS 'CAUSE WE NEED TO GET WITH THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT AND GET BETTER NUMBERS.
UM, SO YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE JUVENILE CASE MANAGER.
BUT I DON'T NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT TODAY.
SO WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT.
I HAVE NEVER HAD YOU IN HERE THAT
WELL, IT WOULD'VE BEEN LONGER IF I WAS GONNA TALK ABOUT THE PEOPLE NEXT DAY.
I'LL BE BACK AND HAVE HER SIDEKICK WHERE HER TODAY.
WELL YEAH, THAT'S TRUE BECAUSE Y'ALL SAID Y'ALL DIDN'T WANT US TO COME TOGETHER.
WE JUST WANT TO SEE INDIVIDUAL.
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ALRIGHT.WELL THERE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T DUNNO WHAT JOHNNY IS ANYMORE PEOPLE YEAH.
THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO SEE ME.
I KNOW HOW BUSY YOU GUYS ARE WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON, ESPECIALLY THE STORMS AND CLEANUP AND EVERYTHING.
BUT, UH, WE KNOW HOW VERY BUSY YOU ARE AND WE APPRECIATE THE TIME.
MY BUDGET, UM, I'VE GOT WITH BRANDY AND WE KIND OF CONSOLIDATED SOME STUFF.
UH, WE RUN A DIVERSION PROGRAM FOR THE DA'S OFFICE.
WE SUPERVISE THAT STAFF AND DEAL WITH THAT PROGRAM.
BUT A LOT OF THOSE FEES, UH, ARE BILLED BACK TO THE DA AND THEN, AND THEN SHE BUILDS AND, AND SOURCE OUT.
SO WE KIND OF STREAMLINED IT AND GOT IT WHERE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE.
SO THAT TOOK OUT A BUNCH OF, OF MY STUFF AND GOT IT OVER TO JUDGE WILEY'S STUFF.
UM, SO THAT WAS ONE THING THAT WE DID KIND OF, KIND OF STREAMLINED IT.
THE ONLY OTHER THING, UH, I HAD A LITTLE BUMP IN DRUG DRUG TESTING.
UH, LAST BUDGET I CUT A THOUSAND.
BUT THEN THIS YEAR, OF COURSE WE NEED IT BACK BECAUSE THE THE, THE TEST THEMSELVES DIDN'T GO UP, BUT THE CONFIRMATION'S ALMOST DOUBLED.
SO THERE, IT'S UP TO LIKE 32 BUCKS EVERY TIME WE SEND ONE IN FOR A CONFIRMATION.
UM, SO, AND THEN I ALSO ASKED FOR A LITTLE BUMP IN OFFICE SUPPLIES BECAUSE OF SHREDDING.
UH, WE'VE BEEN KIND OF PIGGYBACKING ON PROBATION AND SLIPPING IN THERE WHEN THEY WASN'T LOOKING AND SHREDDING ALL OUR STUFF.
UM, AND THAT'S, THE TRUCK WAS THERE LAST WEEK.
SO, UH, THAT GIVES US THE BINS.
'CAUSE WE GET A LOT OF RECORDS, YOU KNOW, FROM THE JAIL AND STUFF.
AND WE HAVE TO SORT THROUGH 'EM RIGHT AT THE YEAR.
WE PURGE AND THEN WE HAVE TO SHRED EVERYTHING.
SO THAT WAS THE ONLY REAL, UH, CHANGE IN THE NUMBERS AS FAR AS OPERATING BUDGET.
THE ASK THAT I HAVE GENTLEMEN IS, IS FOR A VEHICLE FOR THE DEPARTMENT.
WE, WE'VE GROWN, UM, TREMENDOUSLY IN THE LAST FIVE OR SIX YEARS, IF Y'ALL KNOW.
UM, AND MY STAFF ARE HAVING TO GO TO COURT AND INFORMING THEY'RE HAVING TO GO TO COURT IN TERRELL.
UH, THERE'S TIMES WHERE WE HAVE TO GO OUT AND CHECK ON THESE FOLKS.
THERE'S BEEN TIMES WHERE I'VE HAD TO DRIVE TO A NURSING HOME OR A HOSPITAL.
UH, I HAD TO DRIVE TO DALLAS TO CUT A GPS OFF A GUY THAT WAS GETTING AN MRI AND WHEN HE GOT OUT OF THE PROCEDURE, I HAD TO PUT IT BACK ON HIM.
JUST STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT COMES UP ALL THE TIME.
WE'RE HAVING TO DEAL WITH THAT TWO OR THREE TIMES A MONTH.
IF IT WAS JUST ME, IT'D BE, IT'D BE DIFFERENT.
BUT I'M ASKING MY STAFF TO DRIVE OVER TO FOUR OR TERRELL.
AND UH, IT'S, IT'S JUST, IT'S IT'S COMPANY BUSINESS.
SO I THINK WE NEED A A VEHICLE.
WE ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT THAT.
I HAVE LIKE A 1982 LITTLE FORD RANGER WITH 550,000 MILES ON IT.
YOU KNOW, AND WHEN WE FIRST, WHEN WE FIRST WENT DOWN THIS ROAD, I TALKED TO JACK AND I JUST BEGGED FOR ANY, YOU KNOW, THE, ONE OF THE OLD SHERIFF CARS.
AND I SAID, AS LONG AS IT RUNS AND HAS AIR CONDITIONING IN THE HEATER WE'RE GOOD.
BUT THEY WERE LIKE, NO, THEY'RE GETTING AWAY FROM THAT.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE GETTING AWAY FROM THE LEASING EXCEPT FOR THE POLICE AND STUFF.
AND IT, AND JACK'S RECOMMENDATION WAS JUST BUY YOU A LITTLE CAR.
UH, AND HE, HE GAVE ME A, A QUOTE, I GUESS HE HAD 'EM LOOK IT UP FOR 28,000.
YEAH, WE ARE, THE GOOD NEWS IS, I TALKED TO THE DA, SHE HAS SOME MONEY LEFT IN HER BUDGET FROM THE DIVERSION.
SO SHE'S AGREED TO PAY PAYING FOR 14,000 OF THAT.
SHE'S GONNA PAY FOR HALF OF THAT.
SO IIII THINK YOU CAN'T BEAT THAT DEAL.
IT'LL STILL BE UNDER WARRANTY.
IT'LL BE PERFECT FOR WHAT WE NEED.
IT'LL BE THERE FOR YEARS TO COME.
AND, UH, I ADDED A LITTLE SMALL, UH, I THINK IT WAS $1,500 FOR OIL GAS.
UM, YOU PUT A THOUSAND REPAIRS, WHATEVER.
AND, AND WE PROBABLY WON'T EVEN PAY 14.
IF YOU'RE GONNA CUT TO 28 TO 14, YOU NEED TO NEED TO SLICE THAT OUT AND CUT TO 14.
AND, AND WE MAY NOT, YOU KNOW, WE MAY NOT THIS YEAR, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? BECAUSE IT'LL BE A BRAND NEW VEHICLE, BUT, UH, IT'LL EVENTUALLY NEED TIRES AND OIL CHANGES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
BUT, BUT ANYWAY, THAT, THAT'S WHERE I'M AT, GENTLEMEN.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S JUST COMPANY BUSINESS AND I JUST FEEL BETTER IF WE HAD A VEHICLE, MY STAFF COULD GET IN AND CONDUCT COMPANY BUSINESS AND, AND BE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE SITTING AT A RED LIGHT AND SOMEBODY REAR ENGINE, YOU'RE JUST MINDING YOUR OWN BUSINESS, THEN THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH ALL THAT.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? SO IT'S JUST, YOU REALLY DON'T LOOK THAT BIG OF AN INCREASE.
MOST OF IT'S IN THE, IN THE VEHICLE.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT IT COM, COMPARED TO MY OPERATING BUDGET LAST YEAR, IF YOU TAKE AWAY THE DA STUFF AND TAKE AWAY THE BIG PURCHASE OF THE VEHICLE, MY ACTUAL OPERATING BUDGET IS ABOUT A THOUSAND LESS THAN WHAT IT WAS LAST YEAR.
SO YEAH, IT WORKED OUT PRETTY GOOD.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY JOB PROPOSAL IN NEED.
I WOULD APPRECIATE IT, UH, IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER IT, GUYS MANAGE THAT.
WHO'S LEFT? I THINK THAT'S IT.
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ALL RIGHT, ROBERT.ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE GONNA ADJOURN THIS MEETING.
WE'RE GONNA ADJOURN THIS MEETING.
SOMEBODY'S GOTTA TURN THE, AT THE DOOR.